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[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2014509]That's exactly what I was expecting when I was a newbie in Germany. Everything as perfect as a wedding night with women in clubs for merely a 50 Euro banknote. LOL.
But after so many so-so to below-average sessions, I have no choice but to lower my expectation and standard. Otherwise, I will have to complain to the reception with every woman I took. And I guess I would also get blacklisted by all clubs by doing so. LOL.
Now in 2017, I will just be thankful if the woman perform slight kissing, BBBJ, and covered sex in 2 positions (missionary and doggy) with standard rate. Maybe no more BBBJ, but only CBJ from July 1.
First Palace, second Oase, now Sharks, women there start expecting a minimum payment of 100. Will the rest clubs in Hessen not to be infected?
Well, it is better to remind them, if they are not happy about 50 Euro / half hour, they are more than welcome to quit and go work in McDonald's or Burger King, where the hourly pay is around 8 Euros. After deducting taxes, they can receive a little bit more than 50 Euros for 8-hour hard work perhaps.
Not to mention most of them come from places a lot poorer than Germany.
I admire and thank the German locals to keep the price fixed at under 50 Euros / half hour (in NRW, 30-40 Euros / half hour) for so long.
Please maintain the price.
If Romanian women are not happy about 50 Euros, just let them quit. I'm sure a lot of other Eastern European women want a job that can earn 50 Euro within 30 minutes.
Nowadays FKK Sauna clubs are mostly dominated by black-haired dark-skinned Romanians, who look more like Hispanic or Latinos than the usual Eastern Europeans.
So, I start feeling I travel to Germany to meet Latino women than European women, which is a bit strange.
Hopefully, more women of different ethnicity can join the FKK Sauna clubs business to add more flavors for me.
By the way, where are all those Russians, Ukrainians, Polish, etc the traditionally stereotypical Eastern European women go?
Maybe 10 years ago, Russians and Ukrainians women are all over the world. I can find a Russian woman even in Thailand.
Today, most of them are gone.
Maybe Putin build his own FKK Sauna club in his harem, and all women are sent back there? LOL.[/QUOTE]World and Finca (not technically Hessen, but out of reach region further away from Hessen) are really not effected by tourists. Both, the clientele are mainly local Germans.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2014799]
and have some sort of time management system that both men and women can agree on and be honest about. I can't tell how many times I was short changed, or had enough of this bs and tell firmly that time was not up and point to the watch (which is a major mod killer) and even then the session ends around 25th min.[/QUOTE]I simply never get into time discussions with the girls about time during the sessions. During the session, the girl can claim we've been in the room for 5 hours or 9 hours, whatever. I simply tell her that I will pay her for the time we spent in the room. If we spend 2 hours in the room, I pay 2 hours. If we spend 10 hours in the room, I pay 10 hours period.
Then if she wants to claim a false time later at the locker, she can argue with me at the lockers and we can go to Reception and we can ask security to pull the tapes that show what time we walked to the room from the main floor of the club.
Most of the time, when I go to the room with a new girl (that is new to me I mean), I show her the time and ask her to help me remember the time we start. That way, she knows that I know what time we started as well.
In any case, I pay the girls the time we spent in the room and if they want to argue with me afterwards, we can go to Reception. Thankfully though, this virtually never happens to me.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2014818]At YY, every room has a clock that is visible. Never been shorted on time there or pretty rare to be shorted on time at NRW.[/QUOTE]YY does timekeeping for the keys. I think they may sign the sheet three times (once when they begin waiting, once when they pickup, and once when they return the key). Also each room has buttons that resemble light switches, that the girl will press as she is entering / leaving the room. I assume these buttons are what update the real-time displays downstairs that show which rooms are open (green) and which rooms are busy (red).
At Oceans they short time. ACA have run to a few girls who short time. It comes down to customer profile and how demanding they are.
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Oceans I have, I've phased that place out of being a NRW club. LOL. That's the club I've ran into girls that have packed up right after I've shot. At Aca, I have not run into shorted rooms myself, or recall any quick rooms.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2014837]That's the club I've ran into girls that have packed up right after I've shot. [/QUOTE]Why not just let them leave while you remain in the room?
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I don't get the question, they are packing up to leave. Why would I stay in the room if the girl is packing up to leave? They are expecting to get back to get paid.
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Yeah, that works if you're ok with the girl short-changing your time in the room. For me, I decide when I am leaving the room, not the girl. I think the last time a girl packed up to leave on me was back sometime in the 2012-13 time frame in Living Room.
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I'm NOT OK with short-changing of time, but also, not my idea of good time to force girls to stick around. These are some cases in particular clubs where short rooms are more common practice for the girls, but in general I decide when to leave.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2014799]I agree that the 50 euro for a good 30 min session is a bit outdated and under priced. Perhaps the price needs to move up to 60.[/QUOTE]Man,
I wish you guys would step back and listen to yourselves! In here attempting to provide justifications for making an already expensive hobby even more costly to international mongers! And as was astutely pointed out, raising prices to 60 euros per hour will do absolutely nothing in terms of the quality of services rendered. It will just be more money out of our pockets! To suggest otherwise goes against one of the most basic tenets of mongerdom. Which is that paying more absolutely, 100% does not mean that you get more or better service! That's just basic. Women already overvalue the pussy, so let's not go and start getting behind any price hikes for crying out loud! We not going to get better service just because we pay more. All that would do is drive up costs without any return for our hard-earned money.
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I hope the German economy collapses, then FKK will be full of German girls.
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2014937]I hope the German economy collapses, then FKK will be full of German girls.[/QUOTE]If that happens FKK won't be no more bc locals would dissapear and FKK can't survive on tourists alone.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;2014943]If that happens FKK won't be no more bc locals would dissapear and FKK can't survive on tourists alone.[/QUOTE]Hhhmmmm. But wouldn't it impact young people the most?
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2014950]Hhhmmmm. But wouldn't it impact young people the most?[/QUOTE]Yes but the Govt might cut back on pension payments etc.
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Guys in case German economy collapse, you can be sure you're country whereever this is has collapsed too and you're broke.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;2014960]Guys in case German economy collapse, you can be sure you're country whereever this is has collapsed too and you're broke.[/QUOTE]Thats why I have shifted from fiat money to gold, LOL.
Stocks, properties etc so I can continue exploring the FKK galaxy.