East China - Shanghai

Went there again this afternoon.

Unfortunately both 861 and 805 were busy.

So I was presented with a fresh lineup of eight girls in the lounge.

(No fishbowl)

I immediately picked up 801, she recommended 852 or 855 I forgot the number.

In my opinion. 801 is a real stunner, great tits, nice abs, and also sexy face.

The other girl is really petite, I probably would have never picked her based on my preferences.

But it turns out she makes up for it with skill. She is a great licker and a master of using her legs.

The girls only offered me one shot so we did it in the bed after the nuru service.

Then they gave me a hot towel massage on my lower body which felt pretty good.

Apparently all the girls have some variations of the standard operating procedure.

Finally got a ear picker today. 902 is a real cutie.

Of course she tried to upsell the other packages,

But I said I was out of time so I opted just for the regular ear and head service for 15 minutes.

She repeated what my doctor said the other day about ear wax and cotton swabs, so I probably will be heading to an ear expert once I hit stateside.

902 has great hands, and the head massage was really relaxing.

I finally caved in and agreed to add an extra session for my arms.

The ear + head + arm massage package is 198 RMB.

So total damage was 1584 RMB this afternoon.

Today I noticed the title on the credit card receipt, now they use the name of a department store.

I visited Merrylin twice last week and both time as I was about to leave a girl would wrap her arm around mine. The first time the girl said a bunch of stuff in Chinese and I told her in English I don't understand, she finally said "go home?" And I said yes so she walked away. The second time the girl said "long time massage" so I assume she was asking if I wanted to take her back to my hotel. Do guys usually want to do it again right after they just did it at one of these places? I don't remember this being mentioned so I just wanted to ask.

Also, both times I was asked if I wanted two girls. First time was at the fish bowl, the second time me and the girl were already in the room. Anyone know how much it costs for two girls? Is it just double the price?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Marty47;1514169]Here it is. Forgot to down load.[/QUOTE]Thanks Marty47 for a pic of Cathy's fabulous behind and her favourite toy. Mr Pinky.

I get to see her again next week.

Can't wait!

[QUOTE=Vodich; 1514899]Also, both times I was asked if I wanted two girls. First time was at the fish bowl, the second time me and the girl were already in the room. Anyone know how much it costs for two girls? Is it just double the price?

Thanks[/QUOTE]They will only ask you for the second girl, if they have a lot of girls related to the number of customer, so never in "rush hour", but if the place is "dry of business", they will ask you while selection and also the girl will push you for that later in the room.

From my view only, because if two girls serve one customer, than both girls have to work less. That means: you normally will not get any lesbian action or even "sharing" action. Even if they blow you together, very often one will finish, than the other will take a desinfection towel to clean everything, than she start to blow. And it will go on like that, so if you change the girls while interaction, they will change condom and clean your little brother, so most time opposite of what you expect from a good FFM.

But at least it is cheap, so not too bad for a first threesome try. The second girl will be charged with only additional 400, so not even near to the double rate. In cheaper saunas, the second girl will be 300, so you can get a 80 minutes FFM for less than 1000 RMB, but don`t forget it will be less than 5% chance for a really hot session.

One tip to rise up the chance for a good session: ask the first girl to select the second one. Even it will be not 100% your type, the session will be better, if they know and like each other.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1515181]From my view only, because if two girls serve one customer, than both girls have to work less. That means: you normally will not get any lesbian action or even "sharing" action. Even if they blow you together, very often one will finish, than the other will take a desinfection towel to clean everything, than she start to blow. And it will go on like that, so if you change the girls while interaction, they will change condom and clean your little brother, so most time opposite of what you expect from a good FFM.

One tip to rise up the chance for a good session: ask the first girl to select the second one. Even it will be not 100% your type, the session will be better, if they know and like each other.[/QUOTE]IMHO, the FFM experience described above is pretty accurate. Worst case: I have even been in situations with one girl waiting in the bathroom until I finish the first one and then switching places. It is never like anything you see in the porn movies.

The disinfecting and condom changing kills the mood for me. I do understand their POV. For them, it is the same as BBFS.

All that said, you can try to make the best of it. Letting one girl pick the second is sound advice. Girls that have experience working together provide better service. What I usually do is focus on one girl I want to stick it in and use the second girl as a supplement to play around with like a starter and the main course.

Just my POV.

OAH

Recently there has been some discussion about prices. So I wanted to make some observations, and ask some questions about bbs mongering. I've been in SH for two years now and have used bbs's on average once per week.

The price two years ago was pretty standard at 200 RMB. Also the package was standardised: BBBJ (occasionally CBJ) followed by covered sex (sometimes uncovered offered as well).

I did once negotiate the price down to 150 RMB. This was Spring 2012. But the plan backfired because the girl – who was incidentally nice looking and young – immediately started complaining that it was too little. She kept telling me to hurry up (she could speak some English which is unusual for a bbs) and told me that the guy in the next booth had paid 400 RMB. That may have been true because I heard an American voice say. 'that's about the best I can do' to his girl! My girl heard it too and began shouting in pidgin English to the guy. Just nonsense talk really but it put me off my stroke.

So since then I've paid 150 for BJ and 200 for FS. Occasionally (maybe three or four times) I've gone to 300. But the last three months I've been quoted 300 on a pretty regular basis. I have to point out that this is at new places (or new girls) where I wasn't recognised. I won't pay it. But it leads me to a question: where, how, and with whom do you negotiate?

Normally I walk in the shop, take the first girl on offer, go to the room and then negotiate. In fact I think I've always done it this way. But on this site I have read that some guys ask about services and prices in the shop. I'm not sure how this works. Sometimes people talk about a mamasan or papasan with whom they negotiate. I have only rarely seen a papasan. Maybe three times (and I inferred from their presence that there were some potential LE problems) and when I walked in the shop they never raised their head or offered to engage in any way. There is one shop on Pu Dong Nan Lu (near to the junction with Tan Qiao Lu where there seems to be a mamasan and she will mediate on any problems (she is also available for sex which I personally find quite arousing).

As stated on this site previously, knowledge of prices is the most powerful weapon on a monger's armour. Hence this appeal for further views.

The second pearl of wisdom is that in mongering, as with all things Chinese, personal relationships are important. If you go to the same girl regularly, the service and the price will be much better. Problem is of course that girls tend to move on but using the same shop helps a lot. The providers realise you know the craic and don't try to exploit you. The disadvantage with this approach is that you may become a familiar face with the locals. My method is to regularly use two or three bbs's in different streets.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1515181]They will only ask you for the second girl, if they have a lot of girls related to the number of customer, so never in "rush hour", but if the place is "dry of business", they will ask you while selection and also the girl will push you for that later in the room.

From my view only, because if two girls serve one customer, than both girls have to work less. That means: you normally will not get any lesbian action or even "sharing" action. Even if they blow you together, very often one will finish, than the other will take a desinfection towel to clean everything, than she start to blow. And it will go on like that, so if you change the girls while interaction, they will change condom and clean your little brother, so most time opposite of what you expect from a good FFM.

But at least it is cheap, so not too bad for a first threesome try. The second girl will be charged with only additional 400, so not even near to the double rate. In cheaper saunas, the second girl will be 300, so you can get a 80 minutes FFM for less than 1000 RMB, but don`t forget it will be less than 5% chance for a really hot session.

One tip to rise up the chance for a good session: ask the first girl to select the second one. Even it will be not 100% your type, the session will be better, if they know and like each other.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! Will be back in Shanghai next week but still debating whether I want to try the two girl option.

Anyone got any info on the girl coming up to you after the session and how that works? I remember seeing like 3 girls standing before the door that goes into the room with the fish bowl before I headed in my second time. These girls are usually more dressed up then the girls in the fish bowl. They seem to be dressed like they're about to go out.

well i arrived saturday morning and settled into the peninsula hotel quickly. decided to take a general stroll around the city and was amazed how quickly i was approached by men and women offering me massage and "sexy sexy". all were extremely persistent and it was only from reading this board and the shanghai night life i knew to steer well clear. i also made the decision to carry only my hotel key (in my shoe) and the cash i was willing to lose if something went sideways. if i had not read otherwise, i probably would have taken any of these offers up on the spot. do all westerners have this problem of being approached and what is the best advice to shut them down quickly?

around 6pm i decided to head back to the hotel and plan my next move. this is where my laziness and lack of commitment post a long flight cost me. given it was still early i liked my chances of getting an escort past the front desk so started searching for something "legitimate". ended up getting a quick email back from baby c which i had read some reasonable reports and reviews on. well this is where my laziness, lack of commitment and obvious inexperience in shanghai kicked in.

"baby c" pushed pretty hard for my room number, hotel address and phone number. seemed like she was keen to make sure i was the real deal which i was ok with. arrived at the hotel within 30 minutes and actually spoke to the desk to get herself let up the elevator. this is where it turned sour. absolutely no chance the girl i was looking at was the girl in the picture. i pulled her pic up on the laptop and she tried to convince me it was her. even attempted to pull the same face as the photo which i thought was kinda hilarious.

i decided to still bust a nut in her regardless. quoted me 4000 rmb if i wanted fs! again i couldn't be bothered getting into a fight about things so i countered with 1000 and she agreed on 1500 promising 3 hours and was "not cheating me". i had now realised letting her in the room was a bad call but i can't really afford a scene in this hotel and the amount of money was immaterial (despite knowing i was being shafted on price).

i then proceeded to receive the most ordinary cbj and cowgirl i have had in a long time. i think we have all been there when you realise a session is so poor there is no point fighting it and all you can do is move on to bigger and better things. as soon as i blew my wad she jumped up, very sexily hocked up something nasty in my basin and got changed. i asked where she was going as we were no more than 30 mins into the booking. her response was she needed to meet someone and she will get her friend,"baby c"! no less. to come and see me soon and she "promise i not cheat you". at this point i was so tired and dis-interested i slung her 100 for her "taxi money" and told her to leave. i then decided to take a nap and replan my assault for later in the evening.

i woke up around 11pm and grabbed some fast food from a global chain (this is an important detail!). then grabbed a taxi and showed the driver a flash card for manhattan. driver nodded his head and within 15 minutes he was dropping me off at the door. this is where things started to slowly improve. i was surprised in general how small the place was but it was definitely busy with a lot more women than men. i was also surprised how expensive drinks are and the amount of smoking inside (i am not hugely anti smoking but i hate the stench that gets into your clothes).

within 90 seconds a 5 out of 10 chinese woman who i would estimate 30 years old grabbed my hand and started rubbing my crotch. i was wary as i had read this was a viable pickpocket technique so i moved on. went to the bar and grabbed a brewskie and started to survey the action. i pulled up a stool towards the back wall of the club and noticed a lot of solo western looking males and a couple of groups of asian men (4-6 guys) who seemed more interested in just messing around and drinking with the girls. all looked pretty much as i expected and reminded me of clubs in orchid towers in singapore.

before i knew it the same 5/10 chinese woman approached me again and asked for a drink of water. which i bought her as i am happy to be friendly in most cases. i was pretty surprised it was 40 rmb for a water but obviously most guys in there are happy to spend the cash. i then had a good look at this woman and asked where she was from. claimed to be from the province closest west of shanghai and spoke pretty solid english. imeadiately said she wanted to stay the night with me and i asked how much out of curiosity. came back with 2500 to which i just nodded for now as i had no interest. i also noticed she was dressed in tracksuit pants and trainers which i thought was kind of a turn off. also no chance i would get her past the desk in my hotel. in the meantime i had spotted a few very nice looking 8/10s but they were all chatting with other guys.

after enjoying the scenery for about 45 minutes while this woman draped herself all over me i told her i had to go to the bathroom and wait by the door for me. i then took a very long leak and when i returned to my seat she was no longer there. what do you guys generally do in this situation? i. e. how do you shut down a woman you aren't interested in staying with? i guess i could have been more direct but she was very persistent.

when i returned i then noticed a 7/10 super small and tight spinner who didn't look chinese to me. regardless i caught her eye and she started dancing in front of me. sure enough turned out she arrived from vietnam that night and introduced me to her friend who was a bit more of a 6/10. however they both had ok english and were much more fun to play around with. just when we were starting to get friendly my old chinese boiler turned up ranting at me in chinese. the viet girls spoke some chinese and told me that i owed her $ for the dick rubs she was giving me. i laughed and gave her 200 for her trouble. she said if i buy her a water as well she will leave. i bought her 2 bottles for good measure and asked the bus boy / waiter to tell her to go away which he did effectively for 100 rmb tip.

i then asked the hotter viet what my chances were for a long time. she said no problem but would prefer if her friend came along. i was relaxed about it and had some good experiences with ffm in other countries so said i would give them 3500 total for both of them if we left now and we went to their place (no chance they were getting past my reception desk. 2am and they were very clearly hookers based on their appearance / clothes).

they agreed and we grabbed a taxi for another 15 minutes away from my hotel geographically. ended up in a very average apartment block that was about 30 stories high. their apartment was extremely modest with nothing but a kitchenette, two rock hard mattresses on the floor and a dodgey toilet. regardless i was ok with it as i have done the deed in worse and they were good fun up until this point.

long story short i pretty much had everything from bbbj, every position and they switched over pretty regularly. the spinner was clearly more into it and much more experienced but that was ok as i didn't mind the shy one as she was a bit more authentic in her moans and groans etc. the only downside was they didn't interact with each other but that is a rarity in most cases and i have only ever seen that where i explicitly paid for it with western girls back home.

i was pretty knackered tired so i slept there until about 11am at which time i woke up and felt sick as a dog (guts, head, body, limbs, back pain). i destroyed their toilet and decided to rest up a bit more to see if it passed. at this point they gave me another round with all the trimmings which was a nice touch. seemed like they were keen to keep me primed for future sessions which i am ok with. about 1pm i told them i needed to head back to the hotel as i was feeling terrible all over. i got their numbers and told them i would be in touch.

arrived back at the hotel and tried to sleep some more. by about 6pm i was vomiting profusely and got a little worried when i was seeing a lot of blood in the basin. as i now write this 24 hours later i am feeling a little bit better but don't want to move too far from the hotel as i am not sure if i can hold the lunch i had today. i typically don't have problems with food anywhere in asia but something has definitely put me down for the count which i am pretty annoyed about.

i am pretty interested to hear what you guys suggest i should attempt to do tonight. i would like to try manhattan again but i am worried i will see the same girls again and i really want to keep things dynamic and not go for the same girls too often. there were so many others there i would have been interested in staying long time with. how do you avoid running in to the same girls each night? they admitted they are here for 1 month and the apartment belongs to their "boss". they plan on hitting manhattan every night for the whole month.

i think my next plan should be a sauna as i am still feeling pretty average. although i have been emailing a private escort "kitty" back and forth from the same site who looks pretty hot. i however fear that i will be shafted the same as my first experience.

can anyone suggest a good sauna somewhere close-ish to the peninsuala? ba li ya club and tang dynasty get good write ups by shanghai nightlife but not sure if i want to be in the taxi too long with dodgey stomach.

regardless i will most likely do something tonight and appreciate any comments, feedback or suggestions!

Poker Broker,

Stop throwing money at your problems. You are'nt necessarilly spending too much for your girls but you are on the tips. Just tell them to go away or maybe later. Your first Chinese girl did not deserve a tip or water. I can't tell you how many dick rubs and bare breast (and sometimes bare ass if they wear a skirt) feels I have gotten at Manhattans only to turn them away.

99% of the girls are not offended, they just want to move on to their next mark. They appreciate not wasting their time. I have never seen a girl make a scene in Manhattans. I am not saying it doesn't happen. If it does it is rare.

Another issue at Manhattan's is after you set a price with a girl, you usually never pay less. Better to tell them you pay more if they are "good to you". Thea girls talk so they will all know what you paid. walk 2 blocks south to Judy's which is right on Nanjing lu. across from the Portman but 2-3 blocks west ( i think west). there is a little less talent there than Manhattan's but also fun. It is probably a 5-10 min walk from Manhattans.

I have been told that if you wait until 3:30 or 4:00 the girls get nervous they will not bring someone home and prices get cheap. Of course availability of beautys is less and i have never wanted to wait that long for a couple bucks. i always wanted to go out for a second " discount round" but never tried.


Good luck, play safe.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1516121]Poker Broker,

Stop throwing money at your problems. You are'nt necessarilly spending too much for your girls but you are on the tips. Just tell them to go away or maybe later. Your first Chinese girl did not deserve a tip or water. I can't tell you how many dick rubs and bare breast (and sometimes bare ass if they wear a skirt) feels I have gotten at Manhattans only to turn them away.

99% of the girls are not offended, they just want to move on to their next mark. They appreciate not wasting their time. I have never seen a girl make a scene in Manhattans. I am not saying it doesn't happen. If it does it is rare.

Another issue at Manhattan's is after you set a price with a girl, you usually never pay less. Better to tell them you pay more if they are "good to you". Thea girls talk so they will all know what you paid. Walk 2 blocks south to Judy's which is right on Nanjing lu. Across from the Portman but 2-3 blocks west (I think west). There is a little less talent there than Manhattan's but also fun. It is probably a 5-10 min walk from Manhattans.

I have been told that if you wait until 3:30 or 4:00 the girls get nervous they will not bring someone home and prices get cheap. Of course availability of beautys is less and I have never wanted to wait that long for a couple bucks. I always wanted to go out for a second " discount round" but never tried.

Good luck, play safe.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Appreciate the advice. I am definitely going to plan my actions a little more carefully next time around. I always tend to be a bit loose on my first run in a new country as it is all a bit exciting first time round. I didn't mention in my original post I got the "water bottle" girl down to 1000 LT pretty quickly so shows there is clearly plenty of room to move.

I like the 4am strategy as it has worked well for me in the past a Beach and other places in Malaysia. However my major constraint at the moment is the hotel reception which I can see being awkward depending on the time and look of the girl. Also if I bring back two that is going to cause even more suspicion no doubt.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1515202]IMHO, the FFM experience described above is pretty accurate. Worst case: I have even been in situations with one girl waiting in the bathroom until I finish the first one and then switching places. It is never like anything you see in the porn movies.

The disinfecting and condom changing kills the mood for me. I do understand their POV. For them, it is the same as BBFS.

All that said, you can try to make the best of it. Letting one girl pick the second is sound advice. Girls that have experience working together provide better service. What I usually do is focus on one girl I want to stick it in and use the second girl as a supplement to play around with like a starter and the main course.

Just my POV.

OAH[/QUOTE]I must have been lucky over the years with threesomes from Thailand to China to Australia.

There are ways of fucking 2 women at once.

My most recent experience was in Wenzhou. 5 months ago, when my mates took 3 hours to organise a threesome for me. Total cost to my mates 1,000rmb.

To my delight they were absolute stunners who were trying to outdo themselves.

They were trying to see who could do the:

- best deep throat.

- the longest gag.

- the longest fuck pounding.

These girls never left my cock for an hour. Having 2 girls suck your cock who really enjoy it is something.

Double DATY required some work but can be done.

They were happy to have me fuck one girl while I was almost fisting the other and then swaps.

Just amazing stuff.

Alas contacting them since has been unsuccessful since but I will keep trying.

[QUOTE=Poker Broker;1516105]Well I arrived Saturday morning and settled into the Peninsula hotel quickly. .[/QUOTE]Hi Poker Broker,

Sent you a PM.

[QUOTE=Poker Broker; 1516131]Thanks. Appreciate the advice. I am definitely going to plan my actions a little more carefully next time around. I always tend to be a bit loose on my first run in a new country as it is all a bit exciting first time round. I didn't mention in my original post I got the "water bottle" girl down to 1000 LT pretty quickly so shows there is clearly plenty of room to move.

I like the 4am strategy as it has worked well for me in the past a Beach and other places in Malaysia. However my major constraint at the moment is the hotel reception which I can see being awkward depending on the time and look of the girl. Also if I bring back two that is going to cause even more suspicion no doubt.[/QUOTE]All it means is you have to sign the girl in. Chinese law states guest must be registerred. The girls at Manhattan's understand this and have an I'd at the ready.

I have signed a girl into the Hilton Shanghai many times. It is no more painful than checking in yourself. Don't worry about it.

I don't know if there is an issue with signing in two girls. Maybe someone else can say.

I brought a massage girl to my room once. The Hilton told me I could not check her in. They said she was already checked into another room. If they checked the same girl in twice, they would have to call the PO PO. So even when there was an opportunity to get in trouble they warned me as they did not want the issue either.

Hey all,

I'm a follower of this post, thanks to all for your detailed reports! Props to SamCan for the constant relevant info, thank you. I thought it best to contribute something so here goes:

I'm a frequent business traveler to SH, have gone to various spas and soapy joints with great experiences. HaiLang / Waves is a sure-shot, I always have a good experience there. I'm not ashamed to say that I'm a big fan of prostate massage, which they don't do at Waves, but which I've gotten many times at the little place on 484 Xikang Lu, until, to my dismay, they shut down about 2 months ago. So I went online looking for prostate massage in shanghai and came up with a bunch of outcall services. One had a good website with a great description of prostate massage, so I thought hey, that's exactly what I'm looking for. It's called Red Shanghai Massage. 137-6113-2926, I call the number, and go into detail of what I'm looking for: 90 minute massage, body-to-body, with prostate rub and HJ. The lady confirms all, in decent English so I knew she understood. Price is 1000+100 taxi money. I know that's a lot from reading this forum. But Waves is 900 + my taxi money (and no prostate, and I don't do the full service part) , I don't know any spas that for sure do this, and my hotel is legit (owned by the gov't I think) so I don't want to bring back a girl from Manhattan's late at night.

Anyway, girl shows up, extremely confused and paranoid. She's like 20, 8/10, but the worst attitude ever. She spends 2-3 minutes texting as soon as she gets in, I figure OK, she's being safe, that's cool. She says:

Girl: "just massage?"

Me: "Massage and prostate. 90 minutes."

"Just massage 800. No HJ, and with clothes."

"No, I confirmed with lady no clothes, prostate. 90 minutes"

"This much more money! You give me 1500 and taxi money OK la!"

So I show her the website, it's open on my computer, show her prostate massage is 1000, I will pay 1100 total, or she can leave right now. She final agrees, with this sour look and roll of her eyes. This is like a 15 minute process. So we undress, she leaves her bottoms on, didn't want to keep arguing with her so OK. Gives me the weakest massage ever, stopping every 2 minutes to either take a call, make a call, or send / receive text. After 10 minutes I'm like OK, U-turn off your phone, call your friend later. She starts telling me this whole thing in broken English (at best) about a problem with her bank, like I give a shit. I'm like let's just continue. So after the first 10 minutes, every 3 minutes she asks if she can start prostate massage. Like no ST, nothing to get me in the mood. I tell her no, keep going, she rolls her eyes, and goes another 3 minutes. Finally she just rips open a condom, puts it on her finger to start the prostate massage. She has clearly never done this before. Tries to ram her finger with condom up my bum with no lube, I tell her to use lube, which I provide. I have to show her exactly what to do, and no sensual interaction whatsoever. She goes "you like man?" I say no, I only like lady."Then why you like this?" Most awkward exchange ever. I have her go on for like 10 minutes, and she's had enough. She's still fielding calls and texts every couple of minutes.

So I turn over, I want to feel her body, and she's like all skittish about it. But we find a medium, like PG-13 rated (but nude). Starts the HJ, and I'm hard but taking my sweet ass time. She keeps like rolling her eyes every couple of minutes as her hands get tired. Finally after like 10 minutes I decide alright, F-it, and go.

"You finished?"

"Yea."

"OK"

She cleans herself up, puts on her clothes, goes "Good Luck" and walks out.

15 minutes arguing + 20 minute massage + 10 minute HJ = 45 minutes total, in and out.

By far the worst mongering experience I've ever had. But it could be worse, I could have gotten scammed, sorry for all you out there who have experienced that and thanks for helping me avoid it. Now I've blown my budget, heading home in a few days. Lesson learned. Thought I'd share the above with the crew here, sorry so lengthy, but thanks for reading my rant!

Safe travels everyone.

i am still feeling a little shabby from whatever gut bug i have contracted so i was tossing up taking a run at my first sauna or spinning the roulette wheel on another outcall escort. i decided on the latter due to how i was feeling and started to research online a bit more carefully. i also planned my negotiation more stringently given the last result and aimed to set the price up front to avoid any problems.

i had already had a few texts back from "kitty" on my previous attempt so thought i would try her again. i could see she has some good "reviews" on a few sites but i now realise reviews aren't worth much if anything at all. regardless i baited a response from her with the offer of overnight at the quoted rate of 3500 straight up and i received a speedy reply in good english.

i explained pretty clearly in the back and forths that if anything other than the photo turns up at my hotel i will be sending her back from where she came. i got a quick text back saying "ok. see you soon". this left me underwhelmed but i thought fuck it. i will take the advice i have been given and tell her to knick off if she is no good. as an interesting aside, about this time my hotel landline rang and it was the incall girl i had from my first night. "hello darling. i come back and give you another massage". the gall! i told her no thanks and hung up. clearly they felt they had found their mark and would continue to exploit it!

then my phone rang again at which point i was ready to unleash a tirade but it was kitty calling to tell me she will be 30-45 minutes as it was raining outside and taxis were slow / hard to come by. i figured this wasn't a terrible sign and told her to take her time. about 45 minutes later my phone rang again and she told me she was pulling up at the hotel and asked if she could get to my room without a key. i told her that i would meet her downstairs and prepared to sign her in if i had to. luckily for me by the time the lift door opened she was standing in front of me and stepped straight in.

i was genuinely torn at this point as if i had to bet my life on it i would say she wasn't the girl in the pic. however i would still say she was a solid 8/10 and maybe even a touch higher. on second inspection of the photo i could be wrong as clearly pictures can be deceiving, however i was more than happy with the result in terms of looks. kitty was immediately friendly and playful in the elevator and she had made quite an effort to look sexy without looking like an obvious working girl. another good sign in my books so i was feeling positive thus far.

upon arriving in the room she seemed a little shy so i figured get her at ease quickly and handed her the agreed amount of cash. i noticed she then quickly sent a text and seemed to settle down a little more and we chatted on the bed for 15 mins or so. english was good and we could easily hold a basic conversation and watched a little bit of tv. kitty then offered a massage which i agreed and she stripped naked to a very small, tight and impressive body.

at this point i had decided i wanted to probably keep her on the boil for the remainder of my stay should i come up empty on remaining nights. typically on those i figure worth keeping as a semi-regular i tend to be a bit less selfish in the sack. in that vain i went down on her for a solid 15 minutes until she undeniably came and also soaked the sheets pretty handsomely. at this point i felt her warm up a whole lot more and she proceeded to give a pretty good cbj. ideally we are all looking for a bbbj but i let it slide as i was far more interested in fucking her anyway. after about 5 minutes when then moved through a wide range of positions and it was an excellent unrushed gfe session. right into it all the way through and i will be definitely looking for a repeat.

this is where i was pleasantly surprised and perhaps she was smart enough to try and build some rapport of her own. she said she had work at 630am in the morning and would stay all night and go straight to work or alternatively give me back half the cash and leave now. i was pretty happy to let her go as i was knackered myself and knew i had done all i needed to do to lock in something in the future at reasonable rates and service.

we messed around and chatted a bit more and she has only just left the room. all in all a good experience and one i was starting to worry i may not find here in shanghai. i have always typically had really strong relationships with thai and viet girls in a mongering sense. don't get me wrong. i know they are all working girls and professionals deep down, but i was really struggling to find a good connection with anything thus far and you get the sense everyone is looking to scam you at every opportunity in this city.

regardless kitty may have changed my opinion on this in the short term and i will likely end up seeing her again during this trip.

hopefully hit a sauna tomorrow and report back.