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Halcyon901,

I have a question I would like to ask you in private about your last post, but I am not able to PM you. Is there an alternate way to contact you?

Thanks,

69

[QUOTE=RicanStud]Fellow Mongers,

Danage was 200 Won for her with 2 POPs and the hotel room. [/QUOTE]


200 Won? Not even in your dreams and certainly not in Korea.

How about a nice USA T bone steak.

Ok, after reading the Forums (RTFF), and being a skeptist about Miari an "no foreigners", I decided to give it a crack anyway, what the hell, nothing to lose but time today. Rode over to Mia Junction, then up to Hyundai Dept Store, made the left towards Gireum Station and pow, sure enough, there it was in all its car wash flap glory. Noon on a Sunny Saturday in Seoul, what the hell. Parked my ride and walked through the first set of "flaps" I saw and headed back into this seemingly endless set of little alleys. Honestly, all I expected was the usual Seoul RLD dirty look when they see I'm a big white guy and the hands crossed. WRONG. Really WRONG. There were 4-5 ajumas sitting on chairs bullshitting as I crept back into the creepy little alleyways in broad daylight. One approached me VERY friendly and did the "agassi" "agassi" routine and led me up another little alley to a door. I played along expecting to get the "money first" see the girl later (dog) routine. NOT SO. She led me into a room where there were 3 girls, all were 7+ and actually had some breasts. I immediately clicked with a short cute lady ina black mini skirt and off we went to "the room". After a little talk, ajuma came to the room, made sure this girl was acceptable to me and I paid her 60K WON. I don't need to go into details from here, fellow mongers know the rest of the story without me breaking it down. But, 5-10 minutes conversation, undress, BBBJ slow and nice (10 min almost), some kissing around the body, 3-4 positions, happy ending doggy style with a great firm butt. I was shocked, completely.

So, based on this encounter, I will definitely head back to that "zone" in the future. As I left the ladies were actually kind and treated me like a war hero returning from the front. I couldn't believe it. What a nice lunchbreak!

M

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Room Salons: with take out. Does anyone have directions to some of these places. I know all the RLD areas but wanted to know if anyone knows of which room salons taht offer take out service for about the 300, 000W range. Please PM me or reply to this post. I will post my feedback if you give me the directions.

[QUOTE=Halcyon901]Play Thing,

Well, I guess for the majority of readers, Korea would not be a mongering destination. But for me, a gyopo, Korea was very good! I especially frequented the RLDs, Chenoho, 588, Yongsan (and even Haeundae in Pusan), and had nothing but great times there! And this is counting prolly over 50 sessions, some of them lasting over 3 hours! For a korean, nothing compares to the services I got here, compared to any other place I've been (Amsterdam/Montreal/Medellin). Some places might be cheaper, but I think the quality and service is A+!

Also, the real anmas, where services start at 180, 000W and up, some of them are spectacular! 3 on 1 service, costume-dressing (stewardess, nurse), and the SEAT (there are different versions of this, but basically, you shit on a chair, and the girl slides underneath and tosses salad! ), nothing beats it (in my opinion)! (Forgot to mention all the BBBJ's and BBFS, which isn't offered to foreigners).

I admit, for foreigners, Korea is not the place for full-out mongering action. But for those fortunate to be Korean, its the best!

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[QUOTE=Super Ming]

Direction: Nonhyun station (Line 7) exit 7. Walk up the hill 30 or so meters and you should see a small sign with "Thai massage" walk down the stairs and it should be on your right.

Cheers

SM[/QUOTE]
Just wanted to reply to this post by Super Ming regarding the Thai Massage place near the Nonhyun station. I went there tonight at around 8:00 or so and was denied entry. I think it's the same place, there is a pink sign out front that says "Foot and Thailand Massage". I am waygook and went by myself, so I assume that was why they would not let me in. I was going to ask the guy who answered, but he said no twice and shut the door on me before I could get a word out. Gotta love Korea.

Also, if anyone wants to do some scouting for the board, if you keep walking away from exit seven, keep walking until you see a Tous les Jours cafe, and then make a right down an alley, and there is a massage place called Pattaya. I didn't inquire, but my mongering senses make me think it could be a fun place; assuming they let you in, of course!

[QUOTE=Run Mann]200 Won? Not even in your dreams and certainly not in Korea.[/QUOTE]And yes is me your fellow monger and is not a set up. A local Korean friend of mine used her services before. I do not have time for stuff like that.

Grow up mate, I guess you prefer to go to RDLs with hundreds of hiddens cameras set up by the Police department to catch all the foreings while they go to get serviced like it was happening in Dangdemun for a little while back in 2004 "Have it your way mate" or maybe you prefer to fall for the undercover female police agents that they have working in front of the Hamilton Hotel in Itaewon? Or the diferrent Hotel Bars posing as prostitutes in Seoul.

Good luck to you all and Cheers

Dude, are you serious?

I wont be headed back there again.

Thanks for the tip.

[quote]I guess you prefer to go to RDLs with hundreds of hiddens cameras set up by the Police department to catch all the foreings while they go to get serviced like it was happening in Dangdemun for a little while back in 2004 [/QUOTE]

I went to Itaewon on Saturday night to check out the scene there, and was hugely disappointed with what was on offer compared to the relative "quality" that could be found a few years ago.

Many of the bars were single girl bars when in the past they had three or four working in them, and the quality on offer left a lot to be desired.

Ambrosia had the nicest looking of all the girls on the hill, and the best presented girl too in a miniskirt and halter top. The downsides were tiny breasts and ridiculous charges from which she wouldn't negotiate. The one girl in Madrid refused to drop below 100,000 won for even a blowjob, but I did get an offer for a 50k blowjob from a girl in the bar next door (Polly's Kettle side). That bar had three girls working but none of them were even a 5 on the quality scale.

After a few other aborted attempts at getting affordable play with an attractive girl, I found one lady who seemed pretty cute at the bar that used to be called Indian Joes (or next door, my mind gets foggy now), however I followed her in only to find what I can only assume was her mom sitting on a sofa in there. Woooo, time to back out the door.

Overall then, Itaewon is a pale shadow of the place it was even two years ago, and then it was nothing in comparison to what it was in the early years of this century when lots of good, affordable fun could be had in and around the hill.

On a side note, Fantasy has moved across the road and into a basement location, but I didn't venture down there. Has anyone else been in there recently?

Any more recent hill experiences to share?

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When I say something is because I actually met two individuals that lost their working visas and were deported back to Canada.

Not speculation facts up front cheers.

[QUOTE=Hanguklvr]Dude, are you serious?

I wont be headed back there again.

Thanks for the tip.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RicanStud]When I say something is because I actually met two individuals that lost their working visas and were deported back to Canada.

Not speculation facts up front cheers.[/QUOTE]I also knew a guy who was teaching English caught on camera and he was fined and deported back to Canada as well. I don't know how often it happens (can't be that much, can it?) but it does happen.

[QUOTE=Moon Sun]Halcyon901,

I have a question I would like to ask you in private about your last post, but I am not able to PM you. Is there an alternate way to contact you?

Thanks,

69[/QUOTE]Moon Sun,

I do not have access to PM, and I know Jackson frowns upon listing outside emails. You can just ask in the forum, and if its relevant, I'll answer.

[QUOTE=Tgovm]I also knew a guy who was teaching English caught on camera and he was fined and deported back to Canada as well. I don't know how often it happens (can't be that much, can it?) but it does happen.[/QUOTE]Very interesting. I don't think I remember ever seeing cameras posted in the RLD areas (588, cheonho, yongsan), but I don't its a far-fetched idea either. However, I don't think their main purpose is to capture foreigners on film visiting brothels.

For example, the Cheonho RLD is located right next to a police station, and plenty of people walk by the station to get into the main area. From my personal conversations with the workers there, the majority of the police activity in the RLD itself is to make sure there are no fights (as many of you know, lots of drunks at night). I would assume that this is the main purpose of the cameras. Also, I have walked passed plenty of cops in the alleys, and never have I once been stopped. But I'm also not ignorant enough to actually solicit in plain view.

I remember back in the summer of '05, in 588, around 5pm or so, an ajoshi was getting a ticket/summons for solicitation. But I don't think they took him to the slammer. Mind you, I was walking the other way, but thats what it looked it.

As for Rican stud's story, I don't doubt its authenticity. I know lots of Korean women are on the prowl around Itaewon. My friend was propositioned by 2 women for 200K a piece at a club where the current Hard Rock Cafe is located (either there or Spy Bar, can't recall right now).

[QUOTE=Yobemaster]Room Salons: with take out. Does anyone have directions to some of these places. I know all the RLD areas but wanted to know if anyone knows of which room salons taht offer take out service for about the 300, 000W range. Please PM me or reply to this post. I will post my feedback if you give me the directions.[/QUOTE]Almost all of the higher class room salons have take out available. Remember, the cost of the liquor/room at the room bang runs at least 300-400K per person, plus the takeout fee (which is negotiated in the room). The one that I know of is called Bacchus, it is located in Seolleung, near exit 1 (I think this is it, the one going towards COEX, on the opposite side, same side as the KTF Tower). After going up the exit, there will be a bus stop on the left, and a Woori Bank on the right. Make a right and go up the street, you will pass a large church on the left, a Starbucks on the right. At the next intersection, make a left, you will pass the Lotte Gold Rose officetel. Make the next left, and Bacchus is on the right. It is huge, you can not miss it, there are about 10 workers/parking attendants outside.

Around that area, there are plenty of room salons, I think a block over there is another one called Royal Salute. Honestly, I have seen some of the hottest women in that area (because there are lots of offices and businesmen working in that area). Hope this helps, but word of caution, if you are a foreignor, all bets are off. As you already know, weh-guk-in don't have too much luck in Korea.

Overall then, Itaewon is a pale shadow of the place it was even two years ago, and then it was nothing in comparison to what it was in the early years of this century when lots of good, affordable fun could be had in and around the hill.

I read a lot of things about the Hill before I left for Korea a few years back. I was very curious, even though I had been to some other RLDs. So, one day, I decided to do some recon, and ventured to the Hill on a late afternoon. All I can say is, I would never want to walk through that area again. It certainly was a circus show, with the grotesque Filipino (or some other dark SE Asian) women working the bars. The only good thing of my walkabout around the area was that I was able to see thru the windows and look at the monstrosities! Thank heavens that I didn't have to actual enter any of these establishments. After about 10 minutes, I turned around and never looked back. Even taking cabs thru the main street, I look the other way when passing the Hill!

Next guy to visit a RLD, ask the girl or the mama about the cameras. They will definitely know. They live and work there, have police and gang contacts. They would know about any arrests, hassling of customers, or the locations of any nearby cameras.

Guy

[QUOTE=Tgovm]I also knew a guy who was teaching English caught on camera and he was fined and deported back to Canada as well. I don't know how often it happens (can't be that much, can it?) but it does happen.[/QUOTE]
So, can someone explain this to me; is it illegal to visit a RLD here in Korea if you're a foreigner? I mean, is there a law that says this? I honestly never read anything about this on here before.

Here's another question. I have a Korean work visa, and I am thinking about going to Angeles City next month for a week. When Korean immigration sees my return ticket from AC, could they not allow me back into the country, or something like that?? I assume they would know why I was going to AC (there's only one reason a single man goes there!).

On a related note, has anyone ever taken the Seoul-Clark/AC non-stop flight on Asiana Airlines? How was it?

The crackdown was discussed on this site in 2005/2006 when the crackdown was in full effect. You have to read back through to find those posts. Although prostition is widely available and tolerated it is not legal in Korea, you take a chance every time you play here if you can’t pay. The Cops can bust you any time they want but they have arrangements with most of these businesses like RLDs, Anmas, Massage shops and clubs so they are leave them alone when they play them game. That story about the teacher being busted is old news, it happened during the crackdown and as I remember he was making good money but he loss it all because he got busted. Do not pay with credit cards when you go to Anmas, some people got busted after they visited Anma’s because the cops were able to identify them from their credit cards receipts

Unless you commit a serious crime in Angeles city, Korean Immigration is not going to bother you about going there. Military members and civilians frequently travel from Korea to Japan, Bangkok, Manila, Cambodia and other hot spots with no hassles from Immigration. I know some guys who had to add pages to their passport because they travel so much. Korean men are known for getting in trouble in the PI and Thailand. There’s was talk one time of prohibiting some Korean men from traveling to the PI because they were giving Korea a bad name.

I flew from Seoul to Manila (similar to the SEL-Clark Flight) on Korean Air several times and there was nothing remarkable about the flight other than the large number of Korean men travelling there to do what everyone else is doing

[QUOTE=Halcyon901]Also, the real anmas, where services start at 180, 000W and up, some of them are spectacular! 3 on 1 service, costume-dressing (stewardess, nurse), and the SEAT (there are different versions of this, but basically, you shit on a chair, and the girl slides underneath and tosses salad! ), nothing beats it (in my opinion)! (Forgot to mention all the BBBJ's and BBFS, which isn't offered to foreigners).[/QUOTE]Halcyon901, my question was this: are there anmas where BBFS is available? (Everyone, no lectures about the risks, please.) I went to two different anmas last summer, and in both cases, BBBJ was available but not BBFS. (Maybe the fact that I'm gyopo was a factor? ) I read your post last year where BBFS is available in the Cheonho RLD, but I'd rather stick with anmas.

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[QUOTE=Ezinho]So, can someone explain this to me; is it illegal to visit a RLD here in Korea if you're a foreigner?[/quote]It is illegal for ANYONE, Korean or foreign, to visit any den of protitution. Now when it comes to ENFORCING these laws, well, that's when they get a little more selective...

[QUOTE=Moon Sun]Halcyon901, my question was this: are there anmas where BBFS is available? (Everyone, no lectures about the risks, please.) I went to two different anmas last summer, and in both cases, BBBJ was available but not BBFS. (Maybe the fact that I'm gyopo was a factor? ) I read your post last year where BBFS is available in the Cheonho RLD, but I'd rather stick with anmas.

69[/QUOTE]I am not aware of any anmas that offer BBFS as a regular option. I know that one of my friends received BBFS at an anma, but I think that was more an exception, not the rule. I've been to other RLDs, and the only place where BBFS was available was in Cheonho. I've read other posts where someplaces in 588 offer it, but from my experience, about 20 session there, I've never been offered. Sorry I couldn't help you more. If I hear something, I'll definitely post it up. Have fun and enjoy, I wish I was back there!

Also, if you have time, check out the Dragon RLD. Its about 45 minutes outside of Seoul. I'll post up the exact location when I get the information from my friend. Apparently, its the best in Korea.

Thanks for the news. Very helpful. First time in Seoul on bus & staying very near the Bachus place you describe.

If I go solo to Bachus around 9 or 10 on a Friday or Saturday, do you think I can pull off bringing someone back to the room for the night?

Also, where or which anma, in your opinion does one get the best experience. I'd prefer a good 2 hour session with a lot of massage etc. The experience, atitude and looks are more important to me than cbj or full service. I've read re cool, s anma and zest but I'm wondering if there is a high end place where I can spend a few hours getting spoiled.

Will report back on my findings.
















[QUOTE=Halcyon901]Almost all of the higher class room salons have take out available. Remember, the cost of the liquor/room at the room bang runs at least 300-400K per person, plus the takeout fee (which is negotiated in the room). The one that I know of is called Bacchus, it is located in Seolleung, near exit 1 (I think this is it, the one going towards COEX, on the opposite side, same side as the KTF Tower). After going up the exit, there will be a bus stop on the left, and a Woori Bank on the right. Make a right and go up the street, you will pass a large church on the left, a Starbucks on the right. At the next intersection, make a left, you will pass the Lotte Gold Rose officetel. Make the next left, and Bacchus is on the right. It is huge, you can not miss it, there are about 10 workers/parking attendants outside.

Around that area, there are plenty of room salons, I think a block over there is another one called Royal Salute. Honestly, I have seen some of the hottest women in that area (because there are lots of offices and businesmen working in that area). Hope this helps, but word of caution, if you are a foreignor, all bets are off. As you already know, weh-guk-in don't have too much luck in Korea.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ezinho]So, can someone explain this to me; is it illegal to visit a RLD here in Korea if you're a foreigner? I mean, is there a law that says this? I honestly never read anything about this on here before.

Here's another question. I have a Korean work visa, and I am thinking about going to Angeles City next month for a week. When Korean immigration sees my return ticket from AC, could they not allow me back into the country, or something like that?? I assume they would know why I was going to AC (there's only one reason a single man goes there!).

On a related note, has anyone ever taken the Seoul-Clark/AC non-stop flight on Asiana Airlines? How was it?[/QUOTE]

HAHA! Tons of Korean guys take the flight provided from Asiana Air so no worries and have a good time and just try to smile to cabin crew because they all know whats up over there.

[QUOTE=Moon Sun]Halcyon901, my question was this: are there anmas where BBFS is available? (Everyone, no lectures about the risks, please.) I went to two different anmas last summer, and in both cases, BBBJ was available but not BBFS. (Maybe the fact that I'm gyopo was a factor? ) I read your post last year where BBFS is available in the Cheonho RLD, but I'd rather stick with anmas.

69[/QUOTE]

I've actually experienced this before but thats because I was a frequent visitor of Captains back in the days and always requested for the same girl. Perhaps it was chemistry and my wallet that got this BBFS experience but for the most part, most girls (asides from the ones at the RLDs) will not let you go bareback for obvious reasons.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]<cut>
I assume they would know why I was going to AC (there's only one reason a single man goes there!).[/QUOTE]

I'm assuming you mean the fine dining? I just did a fly through and the puss .. err dining was excellent!

[QUOTE=Ezinho]<On a related note, has anyone ever taken the Seoul-Clark/AC non-stop flight on Asiana Airlines? How was it?[/QUOTE]

Asiana Airlines is fine. I have only two experiences, but both times was great. I find the lessor known airlines like EVA and Asiana quite good, especially in comparison to the service levels and beauty quotient of the flight attendents we are used to in the U.S. See the links below for more reviews by others.

We have so many Asian massage parlors (AMP's predominently Korean and Vietnamese owned) in Hawaii, that it's cheaper to stay home for Korean and Vietnamese woman.

Peace,
AT2

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A report to this board is way overdue. Time to actually give back.

I’ve been a lurker and travelled the world and have benefitted from the advice and counsel of others in various regions. One day down in Seoul. Have to say it is a bit disappointing for a non-asian, non Korean North American.

For such a "free" country, the caste and "foreigner" distinction when felt personally is disturbing. Was denied at "s" anma, near GS Tower. No cabs would pick me up for 15 minutes post encounter (later). Had to ask a nice young Korean man to help me get a cab and the cab driver (non-blue) only reluctantly took me. Whatever, good thing Michener is no longer writing historical fiction.

While my being stunned at determining this was the previously posted place of adventure (S anma), I was denied by mamasan. Actually sort of humorous. I went down the stairs, with the television posted just above my head broadcasting soccer highlights or asian mtv. I couldn’t tell. The "S" as previously described appeared to me to be a backwards S. Whatever, I figured it out after going down the hill too far.

Anyway, I looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights when I went to the counter with my two word Korean vocabulary and said "massage? Either the janitor or the I'll-fitted papasan was straining a mop beside her, pretending not to notice my question. Mamasan then did the unthinkable. She motioned her hand to her mouth (BBBJ) and asked inquiringly if that was what I was seeking. Not to be one to be mercilessly nonplussed, I responded with "huh", "maybe", to which she quickly said "no", uh uh. "

I left disappointed and a bit confused, but thought, "okay, they are just being careful. " No worries. I did my research and compiled a list before my mini adventure.

Thinking Zest from previous posts was a safer bet, plus I had the phone number to give to a taxi driver, I headed to Zest.

Zest was ok. Sub par AMP in North America to be honest.

My new friend was ok. Worked hard to please, but limitations as previously posted and ymmv re. Variety and beauty in the eye of the beholder (foucoult) type of things. As I just did not click from a chemistry pov and looks pov with my flight attendant friend. I tried to cover, but it just wasn’t there. The physical make- up of the place was low frills. I guess I expected B to A – facilities. Got see to see – facilities instead. My friend was nice though and willing to serve/please and two shots. Albeit with no touching of her were aside from on the legs. Was allowed.

Have yet to go anywhere else. Frankly, freebie and perhaps take home from a salon seem more appealing, if not more daunting. Will report back if have any more favorable or negative encounters.

Hope this helps.

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Recommendations for a good 2 for 1 deal?

Or any cosplay stuff.

Any recs would be greatly appreciated. About to leave korea and want to have a memorable night out.

There is a Thai Massage place near my place and also a Noraebang. I hear Noraebangs sometimes have extras. Are they only for Koreans or for foreigners too? As for the Thai Massage (That is the actual name of the place) - would they have fs? They are open really late. It's 11:30 pm now. What are the costs?

[QUOTE=Halcyon901]I am not aware of any anmas that offer BBFS as a regular option. I know that one of my friends received BBFS at an anma, but I think that was more an exception, not the rule. I've been to other RLDs, and the only place where BBFS was available was in Cheonho. I've read other posts where someplaces in 588 offer it, but from my experience, about 20 session there, I've never been offered. Sorry I couldn't help you more. If I hear something, I'll definitely post it up. Have fun and enjoy, I wish I was back there!

Also, if you have time, check out the Dragon RLD. Its about 45 minutes outside of Seoul. I'll post up the exact location when I get the information from my friend. Apparently, its the best in Korea.[/QUOTE]Halcyon901,

Thanks for the response. I guess I misunderstood one of your previous posts.

Maybe I'll try the Cheonho RLD out. Even 150,000 for an hour (assuming the price didn't change) is cheaper than the 180,000 I doled out each of the two anmas I visited. (Yes, I know not to do "long time".) Some more questions:

1) When negotiating, do I negotiate with the woman I'm interested in directly, or some ajumma?

2) When would be the best day of the week, and the best time of day, for me to go there? (Preferably with less guys around, but with more girls available, if possible.)

3) How is your Korean? I'm a gyopo, too, but my Korean is limited. Is this going to be a problem?

Thanks,

69

[QUOTE=Moon Sun]Halcyon901,

Thanks for the response. I guess I misunderstood one of your previous posts.

Maybe I'll try the Cheonho RLD out. Even 150,000 for an hour (assuming the price didn't change) is cheaper than the 180,000 I doled out each of the two anmas I visited. (Yes, I know not to do "long time".) Some more questions:

1) When negotiating, do I negotiate with the woman I'm interested in directly, or some ajumma?

2) When would be the best day of the week, and the best time of day, for me to go there? (Preferably with less guys around, but with more girls available, if possible.)

3) How is your Korean? I'm a gyopo, too, but my Korean is limited. Is this going to be a problem?

Thanks,

69[/QUOTE]I don't think a full hour at Cheon-ho is 150, 000W. I remember you can negotiate it down to about 120, 000W. I got it down to 100, 000W, but that was with a group of 4 people (also, some girls think the 100K price is for one shot, not multiple cups). Personally, I always went short time with new girls. If they were good, then I'd sign up for more time (which comes out to the same price, since its only 60K to 70K).

1- At Cheonho, most negotiations are done with the ajuma that works in the booth. You will most likely go to a sitting room, drink a beverage, and the ajuma will let you know the prices and such. She will then introduce the girls, and at some places, there are 8 girls presented. But most likely, you will see the girls at the booths beforehand.

2- The best and busiest nights are of course Friday and Saturday, but if you go around 7-8pm, that is when most of the girls starting opening their booths. I liked going at 9pm, not that many people, and lots of selection.

3- My Korean is not that great, but I can communicate enough. All you really need to know is "short-time, sam-ship-boon" (30 minutes) and han-shi-gan (1 hour), as well, as how to say 60, 000W, 70, 000W, etc.

Have fun, wish I was there!

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[QUOTE=RicanStud]I guess you prefer to go to RDLs with hundreds of hiddens cameras set up by the Police department to catch all the foreings while they go to get serviced like it was happening in Dangdemun for a little while back in 2004 "Have it your way mate" or maybe you prefer to fall for the undercover female police agents that they have working in front of the Hamilton Hotel in Itaewon? Or the diferrent Hotel Bars posing as prostitutes in Seoul.[/QUOTE]Hmm, maybe I am naive. But is it really THAT dangerous?

And what actually happens if a foreigner gets caught?

I just got back from Cool and I was charged 70,000 won. Is this a new price increase for everyone or just me, I wonder?

Also, there was over an hour wait. If I go back I may have to make an appointment!

Was hanging in La Festa the other night having a beer with mates near the mini mart. I drink there often on weekends just watching the local minge float by and have noticed a bunch of guys handing out cards for local anmas. They never usually approach me, but last night two guys tried to sell me on their establishments, one guy talking about Uni girls and a whirlpool tub for 200 000krw. The other was saying that he had Chinese, Russian and Korean girls, either 170/150 for the non-Koreans in a hotel/private residence or 200 for the Korean girls. Best place to meet these guys is outside the Buy The Way mini mart at the station end of Meat Street. If you can't find it, just ask any local whitey where it is.

I went to the RLD at Cheonho tonight (Fri. , around 9pm). It was mostly as what Halcyon901 said.

Here are the directions again, since it's hard to find posts around here: go out of Exit 3 of the Cheonho subway station, Line 5. Go straight up the street, make a right at the big intersection (there will be an SK gas station diagonally opposite you). Walk up the street until you see a crosswalk right after the 2001 outlet. Cross the street, pass the police station on your left, and pass some shops on your right. You'll find the RLD on your right.

I think I found the particular booth that Halcyon901 liked. Make a right at the first alley after the shops, and the booth is right where the alley forks. There were hardly any other guys walking around, and there were only a few booths open. The one at the fork had 5 girls there, and I went in, talked to the ajumma a bit with my broken Korean. Short time (15-20 min) was 70, 000W. I tried to negotiate to 60, 000W, but she said no. I picked out a girl and we went upstairs. The girl was tall, mid 20's I would say, long permed hair, just a little bit of fat on her, and enhanced breasts. I would rate her a 7. She also had a bubbly personality.

We went to a room, she told me to take my clothes off, and she went out for a bit. She came back in, totally naked, with a washcloth, and she proceeded to wipe me up down there. Then came some DFK, some kissing over the body, some BBBJ, and then the main event, which was covered.

I asked her about the last bit, and in her answer, I heard the words "everyone" and "Koreans", but she was speaking too fast. So I don't know if she said that they changed the rules and that everyone gets covered now, or if it's everyone except Koreans living in Korea (being a gyopo, I guess I don't count). I also don't know if it was *her* rule or the rule for every girl in that particular booth. It was just as well.- I'm embarrassed to say that I didn't last long, because it has been a while for me. I mention all of this in case there is someone out there who is also interested in BBFS. You may or may not get it here.

She cleaned me up afterwards with another washcloth, and I put my clothes on. We had a couple of minutes, so I practiced a little Korean with her (I'm actually studying Korean here in Seoul for the summer). The ajumma yelled upstairs the girl's name, a signal that time was up, we went downstairs, the girl hugged me, grinding her pelvis against mine, causing both of us to laugh, and I left.

I was worried about that police station, but there was no trouble for me. As I said, there weren't many booths open when I went, and there were hardly any guys walking around. I could have gone later, but I would have been uncomfortable if there were a lot of guys there. Overall, I enjoyed myself. I just wish it wasn't far ( 45 minutes by subway). But given that the anmas I went to last year were about an hour away by subway, I'll be returning to Cheonho again soon.

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Hey buddy, glad you enjoyed Cheonho. I personally went to the booth you speak of, at least 6 times! Personally, that booth has the most selection, although when you walk there, the two booths on the right are great as well. I called them A Team and B Team. You will notice that the girls at those booths wear similar outfits, one side will wear white, the other side will wear black.

Did you get to walk around towards the back alleys? Word of caution: When walking in the back alley, the one running parallel to the main street, do not go past the last couple of booths. At the end, it is really dark, and the gate is closed. During the day, you will see that it actually leads into some type of market. Also, if you don't want to pass the police station, keep walking further down, and you will see an alley to your left. This alley is another entrance. You can see the lights glowing from the main road. This alley is pretty good as well, there are plenty of good looking girls in the first 4-5 booths. If you go further down, you will see a few more, on either side.

It seems like the ones in the back are a little easier to negotiate. Honestly, the quality is fairly equal with others. The only alley I don't recommend is the middle alley, running perpendicular to the main road. If you walk around enough, I am sure you will figure this out too!

As for BBFS, the only time I was forced to wear a rubber was with a girl, she said something about gyopo policy. I guess my Korean accent is pretty good, most of the time, the girls don't know I am gyopo until we actually get into the room. Don't fret, if you go often enough, that service will be offered.

Well, great report! I feel like I was back in the RLD! If Cheonho is too far, there are plenty of other RLDs. You'll notice that there are in total 4, at each corner of the city (Cheonho=SE, Yongsan=NW, 588=NE, Yeoungdopo=SW). I'm sure that wherever you are staying, there is one fairly close to you! Well, enjoy the RLDs, I also recommend the anmas in Apgujeong/Cheongdahm area. Its pricey, 180K, but the service is awesome. If thats too much, check out Jang-ahn-dong (not sure of the correct phoentic spelling), which is north west, somewhat near Walker Hill. Its basically a huge street with lower price anmas everywhere. I believe its 100-120K, the girls are hit-or-miss, but the service is usually great. You'll love the chair!

Went to Jangan-dong last week about 9pm. Walked up and down the street on both sides and was largely ignored by the touts.

Started trying a few places with discreet entrances, as I feel very conspicuous as a white guy, and I know people who live in that area.

Last time I was charged 140,000won for a sub-standard girl in a rundown place, and I was detrnined not to be overcharged again.

Kyu Anma refused me, telling me that I was "too large" in Korean. The guy seemed very nervous, and could hardly look at me.

King Anma quoted me 180,000 and the best I could bargain for was 170,000 so I left. The guy told me they all charge 180,000, but I decided to see for myself.

Next I went to 39 Anma, where the guy welcomed me and told me 120,000.

The room was clean, and the girl was OK too. She was about a 6 with her clothes off, breasts almost non-existent, average height and skinny. I'd probably give her an 8 if I saw her dressed up outside.

She was friendly and positive, and gave me a good wash and massage, including the chair treatment. Then we did the deed in several positions, an she didn't complain, but didn't try very hard either.

Overall, I left happy, and felt it was worth the money.

Coming out of Janghanpyeong Station (Line 5) Exit 3, it is down the road a couple of hundred metres. It is on a corner, and there are two entrances, one on the main road, and one on the side street which also has a door to a karaoke room of the same name, 39.

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Ok, I’ve been reviewing the forum for about a year and thought I’d finally contribute. I’ve returned to Korea for a few days for work and took the opportunity to experience the nightlife again. I was stationed in Korea back in mid-90s, and it is completely different now. To begin, I landed last Friday, but was exhausted after the flight, so no fun and games. Didn’t even get a knock at the door or phone call, as was the norm in ’94, or possibly I slept through them.

Saturday night I decided to head up to Tongducheon, where I was stationed, and see the sights. It has grown so much I didn’t recognize it, but lo and behold, the subway from Seoul now drops you right outside what was a raging RLD. Note word “was”, it seems the Army has cleaned it up. Spent about six hours in the ‘ville, and was only offered sex once, and that was from a fat old ajuma that remembered me from ’94. Back then we called her the Sergeant Major and she was a pretty useful pimp; always had great looking girls in a little alley. No such luck now, but she was willing to do me herself. I was not drunk enough yet, so said no. She did tell me it was all cleaned up. There are some girls working, but very difficult to find. Also, most, if not all of the bar girls are Philipinas with a few Russians for variety. Also, there’s an MP every fifty feet, and they break up any grope sessions in the bars. I guess I still look Army or they just don’t get civilians up there as they kept harassing me as well.
So, I departed TDC at about 0200 and headed back to Seoul. Oh, the curfew is still in effect, but has spread across Korea since 2002 and the Nightline report on prostitution in Korea. Keep the boys safe from those evil prostitutes. The streets emptied at 0100, and several of the bars became Korean only. Anyway, as the subway stopped running about 11:00 PM, I had to take a cab. The driver asked if I wanted a girl, thank god, and he took me way out in the countryside to a glass-house area. I believe we were in the Western Corridor that runs from Seoul up to Panmunjom. I was hammered, so the girls were not interested in anything. The driver kept circling though, so eventually we found a girl willing to do Andre the Giant. She was cute, thin, enhanced, no English, and about 40, making her a 4 in my book. The sex was pretty basic, 15 minutes for 150,000 won, shower first, covered sex, several positions. Did not finish. Too drunk/tired I guess. Headed out and ended up at my hotel at 0500. Slept till noon and then off and running with folks from work. I had to tell them I was run down from the flight as they wanted to get me some cold medicine as I looked so bad.

So, Monday afternoon, I broke off and went to Gangnam, after guidance from the forum. Went by Cool, without realizing it (I was looking at all the Golf Shops, my other passion that began in Korea). Found Belle as I waited for a crossing light. I went in and had a nice time. A guy greeted me at the door took me to a booth and told me to undress. I asked about a shower, hoping for a table shower, but he took me to a regular shower. I cleaned up, as I’d walked around Gangnam some, and had had dinner at Hooters. Went back to the booth and a girl came in. This one was much nicer, 25, limited English, thin, real breasts, great ass, cute face, and very skilled, 8.5 to 9. She undressed to panties, laid me out on the table and gave me a nice massage. She spent a long time massaging my ass, lightly stroking my inner thighs, cheeks, and scrotum. She also spent about five minutes rimming me. She then had me flip over and gave me a blowjob, starting with light licking, then proceeding to a full BBBJ, though not to completion. After that she moved up and finished me off with her hand. She used a lube similar to KY Jelly. We also did some DFK, which bothered me later when I remembered she had rimmed me. All told, the damage was 80,000 won, counting a 20,000 tip. On the way out, I saw Cool. I’ll have to visit there next.
Ok, so work kept me busy late on Tuesday and Wednesday, Thursday one of the girls from work came to my hotel for some exercises, and Friday was a big work dinner, followed by more mattress work with the girl from work. Saturday I went out on my own again. Told the girl I wanted to do some shopping for my niece and nephew, and she left me alone. I instead made a beeline to Gangnam. Was headed to Cool, but went out the wrong exit from the subway and walked right past Zest. Again, after the discussions on here, I had to visit. Went in, was directed to a small room, and given a menu. I chose the Schoolgirl outfit. A girl came in, a little too thin for my tastes, and can’t really say anything about her body as she stayed clothed the entire session. Basically, she gave me a hand job using her feet. It was ok, cost was 70,000 won. Again, KY was the lube of choice, but it came from about a gallon jug that I found amusing. Anyway, so that was nothing to scream about. It felt ok, but afterwards I went back to Belle. I tried Cool, but the guy at the entrance said 20 minutes till a girl was free. Belle was no wait, and same as last time, different girl (23, thin, 5’3”, handful breasts, short hair, about a 7), no rimming. Took her time and did not mind that it took about me 40 minutes of mouth and hand work to finish. She also bit my chest and shoulders as she gave me a hand job. Again, it was an enjoyable experience.

I’ll try to hit Cool this week, and will report on that. When I got back to my hotel, the girl from work had left a message to call. She was there within 20 minutes of my call, at about 1130, and we went right at it. She basically undressed as I was offering her a drink, stayed all night and just left before I started typing this, about 7:00 PM. Oh, I got the rimming after all. I love this country.

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[QUOTE=Juanvaldez68]All told, the damage was 80,000 won, counting a 20,000 tip.[/QUOTE]
So, was the 20,000 won tip for the anal rimming? Do you know what other "extras" are available at Belle? I was under the impression you don't need to give the girls a tip at the massage places in Korea.

After going to Belle, you might not like Cool that much. I just got back from Belle tonight and I don't think I'll be returning to Cool anytime soon. Almost got a BBBJCIM tonight, if she would have kept sucking for five more seconds. As far as I know you can't get that at Cool. And Belle is cheaper too!

[QUOTE=Ezinho]So, was the 20,000 won tip for the anal rimming? Do you know what other "extras" are available at Belle? [/QUOTE]20,000 was 'cause it felt so good. I was very relaxed and happy at end of session. No idea of other extras. I think she rimmed because I'd just showered. Maybe she always does, but the second girl did not. Will try again if I get a chance.

[QUOTE=Scotlander]I went to Itaewon on Saturday night to check out the scene there, and was hugely disappointed with what was on offer compared to the relative "quality" that could be found a few years ago.

Many of the bars were single girl bars when in the past they had three or four working in them, and the quality on offer left a lot to be desired.

Ambrosia had the nicest looking of all the girls on the hill, and the best presented girl too in a miniskirt and halter top. The downsides were tiny breasts and ridiculous charges from which she wouldn't negotiate. The one girl in Madrid refused to drop below 100,000 won for even a blowjob, but I did get an offer for a 50k blowjob from a girl in the bar next door (Polly's Kettle side). That bar had three girls working but none of them were even a 5 on the quality scale.

After a few other aborted attempts at getting affordable play with an attractive girl, I found one lady who seemed pretty cute at the bar that used to be called Indian Joes (or next door, my mind gets foggy now), however I followed her in only to find what I can only assume was her mom sitting on a sofa in there. Woooo, time to back out the door.

Overall then, Itaewon is a pale shadow of the place it was even two years ago, and then it was nothing in comparison to what it was in the early years of this century when lots of good, affordable fun could be had in and around the hill.

On a side note, Fantasy has moved across the road and into a basement location, but I didn't venture down there. Has anyone else been in there recently?

Any more recent hill experiences to share?

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I fully agree to your assessment. Itaewon is dying and this is day by day. I am only about 2 1/2 years here, so I never experienced the glory I have been told. Can't understand the girl’s business method either. They are obviously lacking customers (some honestly tell you that I would be first customer a day, and I believe it) and instead of trying to get a solid repeating customer base by being honest and charge reasonable price with good service, they only try to rip you off and want to charge way off anything realistic for any service. No wonder that they are dying.

Itaewon hill and surrounding areas will soon be fully in black hands (this is no offense, just a record – to avoid misunderstanding). Almost every week one regular shop or former girly bar is converted in a Kebab house, African or oriental restaurant or such.

Just next door in a regular club, if you are somehow nice and friendly and 'reasonably' approaching by taking time, you can capture plenty of freebees looking for adventure. No success guarantee, but my impression is that the regular Itaewon clubs more and more frequently get visited by regular girls groups who get to know that foreigners can be had there. Not so obviously and to easy, but you can be successful here with reasonable efforts for a couple of drinks. This is as well the reason why my contribution in this section dropped recently.

My best RLD for the quick fuck is still Miari, but not all share this opinion on this board. However I found the right spots where I am pretty much welcomed and the girls even enjoy me like a boyfriend and allow themselves some fun while on duty. Yes I am nice guy and always take care of the girl as well!! I get 30-50 min sessions there for the regular 70 kW.

So for me its currently Miari for the quick regular fun and the freebee for the hunting success. So 'cool' is no option for me. Sometimes I add an anma visit as I like the process.

Regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Ezinho]I just got back from Cool and I was charged 70,000 won. Is this a new price increase for everyone or just me, I wonder?

Also, there was over an hour wait. If I go back I may have to make an appointment![/QUOTE]When I first started going there around September of last year it was 60,000, then they posted a notice on the door saying that starting Oct. 31, it was going up to 65,000. I guess every 6 months to a year they increase it by 5,000 or so.

Out of curiosity, I have to ask this question - What is the most active/busy expat on-line community among the Korean expats? I assume the ISG is the one as far as mongering is concerned, but how about the general infos?

[QUOTE=Play Thing]Out of curiosity, I have to ask this question - What is the most active/busy expat on-line community among the Korean expats? I assume the ISG is the one as far as mongering is concerned, but how about the general infos?[/QUOTE]

PT,

There are several but one of the most active is Dave's ESL Cafe at: [url]http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/[/url]

It includes discussions on just about any topic you might be interested in...of course ISG continues to rock for info specific to our "little hobby"

KORVET

[QUOTE=Brain666]Can't understand the girl’s business method either. They are obviously lacking customers (some honestly tell you that I would be first customer a day, and I believe it) and instead of trying to get a solid repeating customer base by being honest and charge reasonable price with good service, they only try to rip you off and want to charge way off anything realistic for any service. No wonder that they are dying. [/QUOTE]This puzzles me as well. Rather than get a reasonably easy 40 50k for a quick BJ or HJ, they'll quite often hold out for "ladies' drinks" first and refuse to negotiate down from six figures for whatever service they're asked to provide.

With places like barbershops and the handjob joints offering cheap and easy alternatives, not to mention RLDs, for those who have figured out how things work in Korea (which doesn't take that long, really), I would have thought they'd need to do something a bit special to attract customers but they're just not doing it these days.

Perhaps there are enough "fresh off the boat" English teachers arriving in Korea who keep them in business by paying well over the odds for play every couple of days, but they would surely do better with a circle of regular punters paying smaller prices for services than the one-off "jackpot" from someone who's unlikely to splash out that much that often.

As mentioned before, there is quite a large range of quality, services and pricing for the different RS. Went to one called Boracay near Apkeujongdong in Gangnam. 4 people drinking all night, 3 bottles of scotch and tons of beer, one girl each, all with full service after drinking costs USD 500 each. In my opinion, some of the best looking and fun girls I've had in the last 2-3 years. A bit pricey but just living out my fantasy! Picked a girl that looked like someone I fantasized about in high school.

Yesterday night at 8:30 pm. I went to yongsan rld. But I was surprised to see the condition there.

That place is totally dead man. There was no girl to be seen.

Could aneone plz give the latest info about yongsan rld.

Best time to visit, price and services.

Thanks in advance.

Ps. If neone can share info about personal number of a hokker. That would be quite useful as well.

Hi All,

I happened to take a ride past Yongsan RLD on Sunday at around 6:00pm and it was all closed up with flyers on each window. At the end of the road heading north there were tables set up like they were about to have a Sunday night dinner together... That would be a sight to see all the providers out there having dinner with their pimps. They actually had the far end blocked off with their cars as I couldn't get out with my scooter and had to turn around and go back.

Anyone in the know have more details?

Lost In Seoul

[QUOTE=Honey Singh]Yesterday night at 8:30 pm. I went to yongsan rld. But I was surprised to see the condition there.

That place is totally dead man. There was no girl to be seen.

Could aneone plz give the latest info about yongsan rld.

Best time to visit, price and services.

Thanks in advance.

Ps. If neone can share info about personal number of a hokker. That would be quite useful as well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Honey Singh]Yesterday night at 8:30 pm. I went to yongsan rld. But I was surprised to see the condition there.

That place is totally dead man. There was no girl to be seen.

Could aneone plz give the latest info about yongsan rld.

Best time to visit, price and services.

Thanks in advance.

Ps. If neone can share info about personal number of a hokker. That would be quite useful as well.[/QUOTE]As with many parts of Seoul Yongsan district is one of many districts going through recontruction. The current site of Yongsan RLD is sitting on very expensive land and will be torned down for high rise luxury condo's and office towers. Ever since the Seoul government designated Yongsan as an international district to attract foreign investment land prices high skyrocked. Currently some parts of Yongsan is now more expensive than the affluent Gangnam district.

I am not sure if the recontruction has began or you just went during a very slow period. Anyway recontruction will start sooner or later and Yongsan RLD will be history unless somehow they can find alternative land space in that area.

Hey everyone, I just joined the forum and this is my first report.

I just went on the recomendations of some of the previous posters here. I went on Friday night (I know, bad time...) and COOL had lots of fancy cars and a crowd of Koreans standing by the door, so I just walked past. This was around 12:30 AM. So I went to the intersection and across the street to Belle. The young man who answered the door was helpfull, told me to wait 10 minutes. I'm a white foreigner and I speak a little Korean, but not really developed sentences... but this didn't seem to be any problem. I asked if they have a point card and (I think) he said no, but they offer a small discount to regulars. Anyway, for me the price was 65,000.

I was led to a small room with a massage table, changed, walked down the hall to shower and came back to the room. My girl's name was "Nara." Very nice body, fake breasts but not overdone, and somewhat cute face. Great attitude and smile. We chatted in a mixture of English and Korean. Usual deal - strip to panties, light massage, 5 min BBBJ, HJ, kissing. She let me touch, but only above the waist. After I finished, she stayed to chat and fed me some plums - a nice touch! Overall, a very nice experience. Where should I try next?

Place: Belle
Girl: Nara
Body: 8
Face: 6
GFE: 10

Nice report, Njord. I had Nara once too and I agree with your ratings to a T, her face isn't the greatest but everything else is real nice, and she has a great attitude. She's a good kisser too, but think about where that mouth has been before you do it!

If you're into big, natural D-cup tits, there's this girl there named Hannah, I got her a few days ago and her body is fantastic. She didn't even bother with a massage, and just told me to take off my robe. Nice BBBJ with ice, and almost to completion. Why you can't choose which girl you want when you enter, I have yet to figure out.

You can get 5,000 won off if you have a flyer, sometimes they are laying on the ground around Gangnam, so one day I picked up a bunch of them. I should have enough for the next couple of months, LOL!

If you want to check out some new places, there are some massage joints on the same side of the street as Cool, up a little more, that I believe are Wayguk-friendly. If you check them out, please report back and let the board know.

Hey Ezinho,

Thanks for the tip on the flyers. I saw a bunch of them as I was walking there. Not so much around Gangnam station, but further on. Did you ever try requesting a girl, or it just isn't done? I guess there must be some girls that are more foreigner-friendly. I actually overheard Nara practicing a few English expressions with the manager before she came in.

Most of the reports are about places in Kangnam (south of the river).

Any action in the Sinchon / Hongdae area, or anywhere north of the river?

[QUOTE=Darren 33]Most of the reports are about places in Kangnam (south of the river).

Any action in the Sinchon / Hongdae area, or anywhere north of the river?[/QUOTE]There's a basement place almost directly behind the Seokyo Hotel that is a slip and slide massage parlor that offers full service for W150,000. It's actually W120,000 with a W30,000 tip. (Prices may vary. The first time I went there, the ajjuma said it was W100,000, but no girls were available at that time about 1pm.) I understand that it is better to go in the evenings, when they anticipate being busy and have girls on hand.

It's not hard to find the place. Go to the Seokyo Hotel near Hongdae Station, walk through the hotel to the back alley and you'll see the place with the barbershop pole. It says "남성휴대실" in Korean on the door.

[QUOTE=Johnenglish2008][QUOTE=Anduher]Yumi just left, and I am about to leave for a work, kind of rush, but still time. Weird thing is- maybe it's her business style or her rule? Anyway I understand- too much security, on the phone, even on emails, but it's good for her, somebody should be stronger on this business.

Hello There,

How are you?

May I ask you about ""Yumi," please?

You had said she is thin. Is she about 5' 5" tall, with small features; like is she flat on top and on bottom? And whether she has brownish-black hair, to the midle of her back; aqualine face, sharp, straight nose, and full, beautiful lips?

And one more thing please; how old is she, about?

The woman I am thinking about is near forty, but looks like she is in her late twenties, or early thirties.

The reason I do not know from her photos, is I have not seen them. I think I knew this girl when 'she' worked at Royal/VIP bar.

Would you be so kind as to fil me in, if you have the time, please?

JE[/QUOTE]As I know, 1. she's always been Yumi and actually 2.she's never been working in a bar.

And I don't think the Yumi who I had talked about is not Yumi who you are looking for.

Cheers,

Anduher

[QUOTE=Johnenglish2008][QUOTE=Anduher]Yumi just left, and I am about to leave for a work, kind of rush, but still time. Weird thing is- maybe it's her business style or her rule? Anyway I understand- too much security, on the phone, even on emails, but it's good for her, somebody should be stronger on this business.

Hello There,

How are you?

May I ask you about ""Yumi," please?

You had said she is thin. Is she about 5' 5" tall, with small features; like is she flat on top and on bottom? And whether she has brownish-black hair, to the midle of her back; aqualine face, sharp, straight nose, and full, beautiful lips?

And one more thing please; how old is she, about?

The woman I am thinking about is near forty, but looks like she is in her late twenties, or early thirties.

The reason I do not know from her photos, is I have not seen them. I think I knew this girl when 'she' worked at Royal/VIP bar.

Would you be so kind as to fil me in, if you have the time, please?

JE[/QUOTE]As I know, 1. she's always been Yumi and actually 2.she's never been working in a bar.

And I don't think the Yumi who I had talked about is Yumi who you are looking for.

Cheers,

Anduher

[QUOTE=Johnenglish2008][QUOTE=Anduher]Yumi just left, and I am about to leave for a work, kind of rush, but still time. Weird thing is- maybe it's her business style or her rule? Anyway I understand- too much security, on the phone, even on emails, but it's good for her, somebody should be stronger on this business.

Hello There,

How are you?

May I ask you about ""Yumi," please?

You had said she is thin. Is she about 5' 5" tall, with small features; like is she flat on top and on bottom? And whether she has brownish-black hair, to the midle of her back; aqualine face, sharp, straight nose, and full, beautiful lips?

And one more thing please; how old is she, about?

The woman I am thinking about is near forty, but looks like she is in her late twenties, or early thirties.

The reason I do not know from her photos, is I have not seen them. I think I knew this girl when 'she' worked at Royal/VIP bar.

Would you be so kind as to fil me in, if you have the time, please?

JE[/QUOTE]Hi,

I just emailed her and she did reply. She said she had exchanged PM.- not in here. She said. Ablewise? I am not sure..-with you, she also said she already explained in her previous PM she is not Yumi who you are looking for.

Is that enough? By the way. She is 5'7" and going to 33 soon.

Does anyone know of any clubs/bars where filipinas work or hang out. I will be in Seoul later this month and am looking for some fun. I know there are many filipinas in other parts of Korea, but have never found any in Seoul. I am staying at the Hilton near Mt. Namsan and appreciate any help you guys can give.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]

(1) FRIENDS - Soongsil Univ Station (Line 7). Exit 2. Walk straight. 2 mins. Basement. Easy!
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I'm quoting from a post from a few years back, but does anyone know if this place is still in business? Or is there anything else around the Soongsil University station? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Lost In Seoul]Hi All,

I happened to take a ride past Yongsan RLD on Sunday at around 6:00pm and it was all closed up with flyers on each window. At the end of the road heading north there were tables set up like they were about to have a Sunday night dinner together... That would be a sight to see all the providers out there having dinner with their pimps. They actually had the far end blocked off with their cars as I couldn't get out with my scooter and had to turn around and go back.

Anyone in the know have more details?

Lost In Seoul[/QUOTE]I'm puzzled by these comments from Lost in Seoul and Honey Singh. I walked through Yongsan's RLD twice yesterday (Monday) at 5:30pm and at 11:00pm because of these reports and everything was business as usual. In fact, at 11pm, almost every shop on the main drag was open, which is something I hadn't seen before.

I was looking for the flyers on the windows because the arcade under City Hall is scheduled to close next month and all the shops have flyers in the windows opposing the decision. I wanted to see whether Yongsan was doing the same thing. I couldn't find any flyers at all.

Walked by Yongsan RLD at 2pm today. A few were already open and had the pink lights on with girls.

Hi everyone,

I will be in Seoul towards the end of the month on business and won't have a great deal of free time, but I will have a few hours to spare when I arrive. Can somebody please let me know what my options are in terms of a 'full service' liaison. From what I have read it seems that as an obvious foreigner I may find my options somewhat limited.

I will be staying at the Imperial Palace hotel in the Gangnam-gu neighbourhood but as I've never been to Seoul before I don't know what the area is like. Will it be easy for me to find FS girls? Is it worth extending my stay by a day in order to take advantage of what's available? I'm not keen on public transport so it would be fantastic if there's somewhere close to my hotel which can satisfy my needs.

I need to book my flight and hotel in the next 48 hours, so I'd really appreciate any advice you can give me. In the mean time I'll have another read of the forum and see if I can garner any more pearls of wisdom from it.

Thanks in advance.

Evil Homer

[QUOTE=Evilhomer]Hi everyone,

I will be in Seoul towards the end of the month on business and won't have a great deal of free time, but I will have a few hours to spare when I arrive. Can somebody please let me know what my options are in terms of a 'full service' liaison. From what I have read it seems that as an obvious foreigner I may find my options somewhat limited.

I will be staying at the Imperial Palace hotel in the Gangnam-gu neighbourhood but as I've never been to Seoul before I don't know what the area is like. Will it be easy for me to find FS girls? Is it worth extending my stay by a day in order to take advantage of what's available? I'm not keen on public transport so it would be fantastic if there's somewhere close to my hotel which can satisfy my needs.

I need to book my flight and hotel in the next 48 hours, so I'd really appreciate any advice you can give me. In the mean time I'll have another read of the forum and see if I can garner any more pearls of wisdom from it.

Thanks in advance.

Evil Homer[/QUOTE]Hello,

I can't speak english well, but I can communicate with you simply.

I'm just customer, and I'm Korean.

In gangnam-gu

Very good area.

I know 3 Top class massage room (girl with full service)

Cost is about 220000won (in us dollar 220$)

One hour full service + another official massage

If you e-mail to me cellphone number, I will inform to you.

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[QUOTE=Evilhomer]Hi everyone,

I will be staying at the Imperial Palace hotel in the Gangnam-gu ....

Evil Homer[/QUOTE]


If you are a sophisticated business traveller, then your partner will take care of you. Still, when I heard the name - Imperial Palace Hotel-, it just reminded me happy experiences around that area. Within your walking distance, there are several (used-to-be a top notch, but I am not sure in these days) good AnMa (Massage Parlour) joints. 'Evian' just across the street, 'Finkl' the one diagonal to the Hotel (toward north), and what else....

Just walk around the Hotel, toward northbound Blvd.

-- Play Thing.


P.S. Not sure they will accept the obvious foreign looks, but hey why not give it a try? At least, tell us your adventures and frustrations too.

P.P.S. In most cases I have seen, Imperial Palace is regarded as a in-city family-resort type accomodation. Still it is surrounded by the AnMas. Ironic.

Thanks for the tips guys.

Maybe I'll extend my stay then and try my luck.

I'll keep you posted on my adventures (or lack of).

I've looked on this forum a fair bit and have found some useful info. So far I've only been to some of the RLDs a handful of times and I've found them all a bit disappointing. The service is a bit rushed and mechanical. Quick BJ, then standard fuck.

What's the difference if I get a girl for an hour in these places? Will I get an extra pop?

[QUOTE=Movie Spaceman]Does anyone know of any clubs/bars where filipinas work or hang out. I will be in Seoul later this month and am looking for some fun. I know there are many filipinas in other parts of Korea, but have never found any in Seoul. I am staying at the Hilton near Mt. Namsan and appreciate any help you guys can give.[/QUOTE]
I have no idea regarding p4p in Seoul, but if you want to try your luck on some non-pro filipinas, you might want to check out the Hyehwa part of Seoul called "Little Manila". Take subway line four to the Hyehwa station, exit one, and then walk a couple of blocks until you get to an outdoor market with many filipinos selling junk on the street. I was just in the area today so I decided to check it out. There were a few cuties there, but overall, the vast majority of the filipinas I saw were either fat, old, ugly, or sometimes, all of the above. Also, it was a sausage fest, I would say for every one woman, there were at least ten filipino dudes just standiing around dressed in their basketball jerseys and flip flops. The few cute filipinas that were there seemed to be accompanied by their boyfriends/husbands.

There are also some filipino restaurants and bars across the street from the market, you might want to stick your head into some of those places and try to chat up some the waitresses or something. Or maybe hang out around the Catholic Church all the filipinos go to in Hyehwa? I actually considered attending Mass there today just to try to meet some cute filipinas, lol!

Good luck trying to score some filipina pussy in Seoul. Now, if someone could just tell ME where to find some hot latinas here, it would make my stay in Korea a lot more enjoyable!

I'd also suggest Ansan, the area across from the station down the alleys where all the factory workers congregate on Sundays. You can't go 2 metres without tripping over a Phlippa there. There are also a bunch of them outside Cheonan and Pyeongtaek Stations on Sundays. Finally, Itaewon, also on a Sunday is teaming with them.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]I have no idea regarding p4p in Seoul, but if you want to try your luck on some non-pro filipinas, you might want to check out the Hyehwa part of Seoul called "Little Manila". Take subway line four to the Hyehwa station, exit one, and then walk a couple of blocks until you get to an outdoor market with many filipinos selling junk on the street. I was just in the area today so I decided to check it out. There were a few cuties there, but overall, the vast majority of the filipinas I saw were either fat, old, ugly, or sometimes, all of the above. Also, it was a sausage fest, I would say for every one woman, there were at least ten filipino dudes just standiing around dressed in their basketball jerseys and flip flops. The few cute filipinas that were there seemed to be accompanied by their boyfriends/husbands.

There are also some filipino restaurants and bars across the street from the market, you might want to stick your head into some of those places and try to chat up some the waitresses or something. Or maybe hang out around the Catholic Church all the filipinos go to in Hyehwa? I actually considered attending Mass there today just to try to meet some cute filipinas, lol!

Good luck trying to score some filipina pussy in Seoul. Now, if someone could just tell ME where to find some hot latinas here, it would make my stay in Korea a lot more enjoyable![/QUOTE]

Its been a while since I left Korea. Couple years. So I decided to come visit a couple buddies for the summer. The other day I met up with some coworkers from the Seoul branch, and for sure I knew that there was some kind of fun activities lined up after the dinner and drinking fest. Cool was the first option. We got there and were greeted by the front door man. There was no wait, so we jumped straight to the room to change, shower, and back to the room. About 10 mins went by and here she comes, an adorable young Korean girl. Man she was cute! 7/8. I can't recall her name, but from the posts I read earlier, it may be the same as some of you reported. She did tell me she was 22 from Busan. A cup breasts and the nicest butt ever! She was chatting with me for a while, trying to learn a little English, then we proceeded to seal the deal. She flipped me around, nice butt massage with oil, then reached from below and jerked a couple times and played with the balls. Flipped me over. Kissing all over the body. Then oiled up that hand and proceeded to finish me off. So that was bout 40 minute session. Good laughs. She should insure that lovely hand of hers. We then dressed up, decided to skip the shower. She decided to entertain me by singing some of that Korean girls. Wondergirls? Cute girl, great attitude. Cool is cool! I did catch a post about this place called Zesty. I checked the website, man it looks so good. I'm going to check it out this week and hopefully I report back some good news. How come no one else checked this place besides a couple members? Anybody know if they take foreigners, anyhow we will find out before I take off to Cali. Cheers to all and happy b*ning.

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[QUOTE=Caaznlvr]Its been a while since I left Korea. Couple years. So I decided to come visit a couple buddies for the summer. The other day I met up with some coworkers from the Seoul branch, and for sure I knew that there was some kind of fun activities lined up after the dinner and drinking fest. Cool was the first option. We got there and were greeted by the front door man. There was no wait, so we jumped straight to the room to change, shower, and back to the room. About 10 mins went by and here she comes, an adorable young Korean girl. Man she was cute! 7/8. I can't recall her name, but from the posts I read earlier, it may be the same as some of you reported. She did tell me she was 22 from Busan. A cup breasts and the nicest butt ever! She was chatting with me for a while, trying to learn a little English, then we proceeded to seal the deal. She flipped me around, nice butt massage with oil, then reached from below and jerked a couple times and played with the balls. Flipped me over. Kissing all over the body. Then oiled up that hand and proceeded to finish me off. So that was bout 40 minute session. Good laughs. She should insure that lovely hand of hers. We then dressed up, decided to skip the shower. She decided to entertain me by singing some of that Korean girls. Wondergirls? Cute girl, great attitude. Cool is cool! I did catch a post about this place called Zesty. I checked the website, man it looks so good. I'm going to check it out this week and hopefully I report back some good news. How come no one else checked this place besides a couple members? Anybody know if they take foreigners, anyhow we will find out before I take off to Cali. Cheers to all and happy b*ning.
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Wow, I've never read someone getting so excited about a handjob before, LOL!

Does this girl have a tattoo above her ass? Your description sounds just like a girl I had last week at Cool, but with a big tattoo. I think her name was Hyu-Joon or Joon-Hyu or Joon-something. Her ass was awesome like you said, but you can't do anything with it!

Can anyone comment on the massage places up the street from Cool, regarding prices, service, and (especially) if they are wayguk-friendly. There's Angel aroma massage, and then some other places around there.

Ok. It's been about 2 years since I contributed to this place.

Went to Belle around 3:30pm today. Directions were spot on, and like everyone has already said, the staff is foreign friendly.

I guess the timing was all wrong because I had to wait for my nymphet for about 40 minutes. That was kind of boring, but then again the anticipation was well worth it. In comes "Nara", apologizing for the long wait and getting right down to business. I think someone else mentioned Nara and Hannah on this board. I'd say Nara is a 7 body and a 6 face. I like full pouty lips and big tits, but she had kind of thin lips, flat face, and B cups. Nevertheless, acceptable curves, young, and that silky long black fucking hair just drove me nuts.

Same old, same old. I don't consider caressing my body with nails and mouth a typical massage, but as she fondled my balls and then started using her tongue all over my ass and proceeded to nibble on the purple soldier, all worries disappeared. I think it was the end of her shift because after all the talk and GF attitude, she seemed kind of tired.

Whatever, got my thrill for 65,000 and a coupon to go with it.
Service: 7
Girl: not a stunner, but I loved the way she flipped her hair consistently during the 5 minute BBBJ. (i guess i have a long hair fetish) HJ finish like you guys mentioned.

Happy Hunting

I read through this forum for the last few weeks and thought I should add what I've found out thus far.

First off I am clearly American and my Korean vocabulary is a couple of dozen words/expressions long. I also am rather large so between these two factors I think finding places which will accept me is rather challenging.

I live in yeoksam and have done a bit of exploration. There are a number of anma's as well as the massage+HJ/BJ places in the vicinity of Bang Bang plaza (cool, belle, 1% massage, etc). There are also a number of anma's heading south toward daechi dong which I have not really got the opportunity to look into other than just driving by.

The only one I've gone into so far is Belle. Went last Friday at about 1:30PM. Got a room strait away, took my shower, pressed the button. About 5 minutes later Nara walked in. I'd personally rate her about an 8 in both looks and personality. We talked quite a bit between my broken korean and her broken english. She complemented me and was very sweet generally speaking which I liked. Unfortunately dispite having a fairly nice body her B-Cup breasts were augmented and the feeling of the implants sort of ruined it for me. As was mentioned before she has amazing hair and personally I think she has a pretty face and she is a very good kisser.

She didn't seem to have a problem with the fact I am married which was nice, she was just surprised because I am young and she said I looked like a movie star... Not sure if that was the truth or a lie.

She gave a decent massage without oil, I was really very impressed by how soft her hands were. Snuggled and kissed me for a few minutes then got down to business. Regrettably I didn't really like the BJ, she was too fast and flicked her tongue too much for my liking. It was short lived too which I was somewhat disappointed with. Also I received no rimming, I'm not sure why they only do it sometimes... Perhaps it was too early in the day and she hadn't really warmed up yet. She started to give me a HJ but she has a repetitive motion injury from doing that too much so she handed it to me because her arm was hurting and she was tired. Well... That didn't really do anything for me so I just spent about 10 minutes making out with her and playing with her breasts. I think she got a little hot because of it and she actually removed her panties and started grinding herself on my leg, she completely soaked my leg and was moaning like hell, not sure if she came but she certainly enjoyed it more than I did.

We talked for a bit, she says her job is really tiresome. She's a nice girl but I think she is overworked - she is always tired and kinda half asses her way through the session imho. We had some coffee and she was kinda sad that she couldn't please me but I said we can try again another time.

Well I went back today (Friday at around 5PM) and the guy at the door said something in Korean which I only understood part of (They had many customers waiting). I explained that I only speak a little Korean in Korean and he said "2 hour wait" in English. I was like bummed so I told him to have a good day in Korean and went home without any play.

Clearly the best time to hit these places are early afternoon. My Korean friend called them once and asked their hours - They are open from 11am to 5am. So any time between noon and two should be your best bet.

I thought about going to cool because of the better massage and more attractive women as reported on here, but a HJ only doesn't really interest me.

So I really want to try out a full service place but the only anma I know of in the area which has been reported to accept foreigners is "S-anma". $200 is so expensive though and I'm not sure if they will accept my large size. Also the "event service" is apparently only available after 5pm and they are usually so busy at that time you have to wait almost an hour at least. I read that two people in here have reported that they were turned away? One of those I know was false though because the "S" is not a reverse S and it is not a basement level location - I think that poster just went into the wrong place.

Are there any other anma's or perhaps places where they do more BJ and less HJ nearby which will accept foreigners? Also I have seen some cards that my Korean friend said are coupons for $20 off an officetel place, making it only $80 but he was not sure how attractive the women are... Does anyone have any experiance with these operations?

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Ok, I guess there's some random attempts to identify specific girls working in places for reference.

It's been a while since I was there, but I can give you guys some details. I'm not sure on a couple of names, though.

Cool Girl #1- About 5'4", skinny with a nice B rack. Thin but pretty face with long, thick black hair to the shoulder blades and great eyes. Identifying traits would be a tattoo of a small group of stars of varying sizes, a few outlined and a few filled in, either on her front hip or one side of the small of her back. Can't remember specifically. Really got into the session with a lot of kissing, and also stripped completely down to panties (some of the Cool girls occasionally just pull their top down). Allowed a lot of touching below the waist and got super wet. Thinking back, I probably could have inched my fingers under to get a real feel. Hottest time at Cool.

Yumi- Cool- Good figure with nice rack, probably pushing C cups. Shoulder length hair kept in a pony tail, round face, sweet personality. Somewhat fluent in English. Good kisser, but wasn't too much into me touching her below the waist. Still, good conversationalist.

Cool Girl #3- Very young and inexperienced. Also, didn't seem to be happy about working there and/or servicing a foreigner. She didn't allow kissing, and only lowered her top to reveal A cups. Very half-assed the whole time. If she hasn't been fired by now, she's probably quit. But, you'll probably know her by the shitty attitude if you get her. I know it's not the ideal job for a girl, but if she's taken it, it was her choice. If you get a girl like this, switch her out for someone better.

Cool Girl #4- Amazing attitude and sweet personality. Cute face, small but perky breasts, and braces (seriously made things hot). She spoke no English, but I'm fluent in Korean so no issue there. She also spoke with a slight lisp. She had hair just past her shoulders with her bangs cut in a straight line across so her hair framed her face. She was very flirty from the beginning and held my hand throughout our intial conversation. She kept the top on her mid-body, but I got to touch anywhere above the clothing. When the 'special time' started, she actually gave a little bit of BBBJ! We got really hot and heavy during the HJ session, and at one point I was on top of her dry humping her through her panties as we made out. I was hoping that friction would take its course and move things so I could accidentally slip in, but whatever. She wanted to get together and meet to go to a hotel together on one of her days off, but I ended up not having time (too many other girls to meet. Haha).

Cleopatra (Sinchon). I went here once and didn't even bother to get the girl's name. It wasn't good. The massage was half-assed, the girl had a poor attitude, and the handjob was uninspired. No kissing, no touching below the waist. Basically, the only positives were that the girl was completely nude and the fun part started with the warm tea BBBJ.

S-Anma. I went here twice, but I went for the same girl because she was fucking hot. Her name was Mina. She's about 5'7", hair to her jawline, firm C/D cups (probably fake, but very well done if so) and a body with perfect curves. Beautiful legs and ass with a nice personality. Downsides were no kissing and a little mechanical at times.

I suggest each of you post information on specific girls, with maybe some basic reviews. That way, if there's any particular treasure that we should not miss, we can find out about her here.

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Bored in Seoul, looked at the newspaper ad for call-ins, 3 options:

Best, sports, and POSH, which one should i pick?

And are there recommended girls?

Thanks in advance

Hey Looking Inrok,

I was wondering if you could provide a little more detail on the directions to Cleopatra. I live closer to that area than Gangnam and I tried to find it the other day but ended up in a business club I think. The man behind the counter just started asking beer or whiskey and saying W200,000 so I split!

Lost0In0Seoul

[QUOTE=Looking Inrok]Ok, I guess there's some random attempts to identify specific girls working in places for reference.

It's been a while since I was there, but I can give you guys some details. I'm not sure on a couple of names, though.

Cool Girl #1- About 5'4", skinny with a nice B rack. Thin but pretty face with long, thick black hair to the shoulder blades and great eyes. Identifying traits would be a tattoo of a small group of stars of varying sizes, a few outlined and a few filled in, either on her front hip or one side of the small of her back. Can't remember specifically. Really got into the session with a lot of kissing, and also stripped completely down to panties (some of the Cool girls occasionally just pull their top down). Allowed a lot of touching below the waist and got super wet. Thinking back, I probably could have inched my fingers under to get a real feel. Hottest time at Cool.

Yumi- Cool- Good figure with nice rack, probably pushing C cups. Shoulder length hair kept in a pony tail, round face, sweet personality. Somewhat fluent in English. Good kisser, but wasn't too much into me touching her below the waist. Still, good conversationalist.

Cool Girl #3- Very young and inexperienced. Also, didn't seem to be happy about working there and/or servicing a foreigner. She didn't allow kissing, and only lowered her top to reveal A cups. Very half-assed the whole time. If she hasn't been fired by now, she's probably quit. But, you'll probably know her by the shitty attitude if you get her. I know it's not the ideal job for a girl, but if she's taken it, it was her choice. If you get a girl like this, switch her out for someone better.

Cool Girl #4- Amazing attitude and sweet personality. Cute face, small but perky breasts, and braces (seriously made things hot). She spoke no English, but I'm fluent in Korean so no issue there. She also spoke with a slight lisp. She had hair just past her shoulders with her bangs cut in a straight line across so her hair framed her face. She was very flirty from the beginning and held my hand throughout our intial conversation. She kept the top on her mid-body, but I got to touch anywhere above the clothing. When the 'special time' started, she actually gave a little bit of BBBJ! We got really hot and heavy during the HJ session, and at one point I was on top of her dry humping her through her panties as we made out. I was hoping that friction would take its course and move things so I could accidentally slip in, but whatever. She wanted to get together and meet to go to a hotel together on one of her days off, but I ended up not having time (too many other girls to meet. Haha).

Cleopatra (Sinchon). I went here once and didn't even bother to get the girl's name. It wasn't good. The massage was half-assed, the girl had a poor attitude, and the handjob was uninspired. No kissing, no touching below the waist. Basically, the only positives were that the girl was completely nude and the fun part started with the warm tea BBBJ.

S-Anma. I went here twice, but I went for the same girl because she was fucking hot. Her name was Mina. She's about 5'7", hair to her jawline, firm C/D cups (probably fake, but very well done if so) and a body with perfect curves. Beautiful legs and ass with a nice personality. Downsides were no kissing and a little mechanical at times.

I suggest each of you post information on specific girls, with maybe some basic reviews. That way, if there's any particular treasure that we should not miss, we can find out about her here.

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Can you speak Korean or know how to read it? The sign says "Cleopatra" spelled phoenetically in Korean. Ok, starting from Sinchon rotary, you want to be near Hyundai Dept. Store. Across the street you will see a big night club with tons of neon lighting. This place also has a bowling alley inside.

If you're facing this club, you'll notice that there are alleys on each side of the building it is in. I'm not sure which one you should go down (can't remember well), but you should notice within a block or two that there is a door with green feet painted on it underneath some Korean writing. You'll have to round the corner to get to the actual entrance, but that's it. Basically, if you just explore the alley's directly surrounding that night club, you'll find it's the only place with green feet on the door. It's across from a place with a yellow marquis claiming to have female college students (that place might be worth checking out).

Drop a message here on the board and tell me if you found it.

[QUOTE=Lost In Seoul]Hey Looking Inrok,

I was wondering if you could provide a little more detail on the directions to Cleopatra. I live closer to that area than Gangnam and I tried to find it the other day but ended up in a business club I think. The man behind the counter just started asking beer or whiskey and saying W200,000 so I split!

Lost0In0Seoul[/QUOTE]

Near the open Market area in Songtan/Osan Air Base area,there are some Anmas that will readily accept Non-Koreans. The cost is 120,000.00KRW for FS as opposed to the 200,000.00 price tag in Seoul. The girl I had was a little chubby but was friendly in every way and was quite cute but spoke no English. If you are in Seoul, take the subway to Osan/Songtan stop. If you have the time, the trip is about 30 mins by rail from Seoul and a nice change of pace in many ways.

What is the recommended time to go to somewhere like Belle or Cool?

I know that evenings and nighttime can be rather busy and involve a bit of a wait to get a girl, but how early would you suggest going? Lunchtime? 2 3pm in the afternoon? What's the choice like at that time, as I wouldn't imagine they have their best girls working at that time of day?

Is Belle still the best bet for BBBJ before the HJ too?

I won't have the chance to go hunting next week.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a great order-in that delivers to hotels?

[QUOTE=Scotlander]What is the recommended time to go to somewhere like Belle or Cool?

I know that evenings and nighttime can be rather busy and involve a bit of a wait to get a girl, but how early would you suggest going? Lunchtime? 2 3pm in the afternoon? What's the choice like at that time, as I wouldn't imagine they have their best girls working at that time of day?

Is Belle still the best bet for BBBJ before the HJ too?[/QUOTE]A Korean assosiate of mine went in the other day. He asked nara during his session about some of the details. Basically there are 3 girls working during the day so a slim selection and you can not request a change if you do not like the girl but they will provide you with a refund. Most week days are slow though and u can get a room right away. The exception is fridays, weekends and weeknights from 10pm-1 am. Those are their busiest hours. They have 10 girls working from 10pm-1am but it is usually still quite a wait. His assesment of nara was the same as mine, rushed service, she's pretty and talented but half-assed.

It's been a while since I last posted.

Anyway, I checked out JHP Anmas yesterday (Saturday 9pm).
It's DEAD. All the Anmas were closed. No lights flashing, nothing.

First, I thought it was because everyone had a day off or were too busy watching the Olympics or something, but when I kept walking, I noticed that the ENTIRE STRIP was closed. Some of the buildings even had their signs torn down.

It seems the cops have finally made a crackdown on that place.

I sure hope not...
..anyway, I'm gonna miss that place..

Visiting Seoul on business for a week or so. Wondering if there are either:

1. Anma's in Insadong area.

2. Any delivery or call-ins available.

Rankin any luck in your finds.

[QUOTE=RankinRoger]I won't have the chance to go hunting next week.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a great order-in that delivers to hotels?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Seoul Blade]It's been a while since I last posted.

Anyway, I checked out JHP Anmas yesterday (Saturday 9pm).
It's DEAD. All the Anmas were closed. No lights flashing, nothing.

First, I thought it was because everyone had a day off or were too busy watching the Olympics or something, but when I kept walking, I noticed that the ENTIRE STRIP was closed. Some of the buildings even had their signs torn down.

It seems the cops have finally made a crackdown on that place.

I sure hope not...
..anyway, I'm gonna miss that place..[/QUOTE]

This is horrible news if it's true. Jangan-dong was my favorite place to go back in 2005. I'd go there every Sunday night to finish the week with a nice soapy massage and an orgasm for 80,000 KRW...

Can anyone else confirm if this is true or not? I won't be in Korea for another four months (anyone want to go to room salon in Dec?)... but I certainly hope it's not true!!!

[QUOTE=Sty Stylus]Visiting Seoul on business for a week or so. Wondering if there are either:

1. Anma's in Insadong area.

2. Any delivery or call-ins available.[/QUOTE]Fox massage (Yuh-oo Anmajang) is close to the Insa-dong area. If you are facing Pagoda Park, walk up the next street to the right (not the alley next to the park), and it's about seventy meters up on the right side of the road. IIRC, they open around 7pm and charged 120, 000. There's another Anmajang in the area within sight of Fox but I don't know the name. All I know is that they charge 180,000.

It appears that it is still business as usual over there but some of the girls have quit. All of the employees had to go to the police station and will likely be fined. I do not know if this will shut them down or not. From what my friend has told me they typically just pay the fine and stay in business because the money is so good.

Still rather disheartening none the less. I don't believe any customers got into any trouble but it does send a bit of a chill up your spine to consider the possibilities if any of us had been there at the time the police showed up.

I really wish Korea would lighten up a bit and remove the laws against the sex industry. The laws are rarely enforced and it seems they only serve to hurt the decent establishments which are not connected to organized crime. I think the current laws only cause more corruption both in the establishments and in the police force in the form of bribery. Not only are the RLD's suffering but even these rather tame places by comparison which do not even offer full service are now being effected... This is just a sad state of affairs all around.

[QUOTE=Seoul Seeker]It appears that it is still business as usual over there but some of the girls have quit. All of the employees had to go to the police station and will likely be fined. I do not know if this will shut them down or not. From what my friend has told me they typically just pay the fine and stay in business because the money is so good.

Still rather disheartening none the less. I don't believe any customers got into any trouble but it does send a bit of a chill up your spine to consider the possibilities if any of us had been there at the time the police showed up.

I really wish Korea would lighten up a bit and remove the laws against the sex industry. The laws are rarely enforced and it seems they only serve to hurt the decent establishments which are not connected to organized crime. I think the current laws only cause more corruption both in the establishments and in the police force in the form of bribery. Not only are the RLD's suffering but even these rather tame places by comparison which do not even offer full service are now being effected... This is just a sad state of affairs all around.[/QUOTE]Somebody-local Korean-told me, we shouldn't use credit cards there - massage shop, Anma, Hugaetell or something- even some local Koreans get in trouble with them.-if the shops get caught-police can trace you and want to find you to ask what you've done there with that money.

1. If they get caught, and you get caught - during session-but you still might walk away from the police station- if it's your first time-, but you might need somebody - friends or any family member- who guarantee you, it's embarrasssing!!!

2. If you'd like to get those kind of service, and ask the owner or mamasang if they have a hidden/secret exit just in case- some shops have secret exits, and are supposed to warn guests of the police- to run away-.

[QUOTE=Seoul Seeker]
Still rather disheartening none the less. I don't believe any customers got into any trouble but it does send a bit of a chill up your spine to consider the possibilities if any of us had been there at the time the police showed up.
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Just a thought but it makes me wonder if the recent influx of foreign participants at Belle may have facilitated this raid or even worse, if this site is being monitored by outside forces working close with the police?

Hmmm...its a shame to hear about this place given the limited options foreigners have access to but then again is it something we here at the Seoul boards need to be more cautious when discovering a new venue? I know this defeats the whole purpose of the ISG boards but then again its always better being safe than sorry.

Am I being paranoid here? Thoughts?

[quote=dizz hizz]just a thought but it makes me wonder if the recent influx of foreign participants at belle may have facilitated this raid or even worse, if this site is being monitored by outside forces working close with the police?

hmmm...its a shame to hear about this place given the limited options foreigners have access to but then again is it something we here at the seoul boards need to be more cautious when discovering a new venue? i know this defeats the whole purpose of the isg boards but then again its always better being safe than sorry.

am i being paranoid here? thoughts?[/quote]
that's just what i was thinking as well. it seemed like many more foreigners had been heading to belle in the last month or so. i remember the first time i went there, there was no wait at all, compare that to the last time i went and there was an hour wait. and just look how many times nara has been mentioned on here recently. some ajossi probably got mad that a bunch of wayguks were getting bbbjs from petty korean girls, so they called the cops to complain. lol!

now what the hell am i going to do with all these 5,00 won off coupons i have for belle??

anyways, i wanted to go to belle today, but because of the report by seoulseeker regarding the police raid, i decided to go to cool instead. i got there around 1 pm, i had never been there in the afternoon before so i wasn't sure how the service would differ. i went in and the guy at the door said i had to pay 75,000 won!! wtf is this all about? my korean sucks but what i got from his speech he gave me was that hanguks are charged 65,000 won and wayguks are charged 75,000 won. keep in mind this was a new guy at the door i had never seen before, and he seemed to speak no english whatsoever. can anyone confirm these prices? is this just an afternoon thing or what?

i almost turned around and walked out (which is what i should have done) but i paid the 75,000 and was led to room five. my girl was named chong sol i'd say early to mid 20's. i'm not going to bore you with the whole story, the massage was nice, she looked and smelled good and she beat my dick like it owed her money but she refused to take her top off!!! she was wearing a babydoll with a bra underneath it, and she lowered her babydoll but wouldn't take off her bra. she kept saying aniyo and poining to the door but i couldn't understand what she was saying. i could still touch her, but i shit you not, i had to squeeze my hand into her bra! is this how it is in the afternoon, are the girls more conservative or was there a raid at cool too and the girls can't get naked? anyone have any ideas?

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]Just a thought but it makes me wonder if the recent influx of foreign participants at Belle may have facilitated this raid or even worse, if this site is being monitored by outside forces working close with the police?

Hmmm...its a shame to hear about this place given the limited options foreigners have access to but then again is it something we here at the Seoul boards need to be more cautious when discovering a new venue? I know this defeats the whole purpose of the ISG boards but then again its always better being safe than sorry.

Am I being paranoid here? Thoughts?[/QUOTE]But still. We need to be cautious. Always just in case-as I said. Just keep some rules in your mind. Don't use your credit card & don't meet somebody else- escort ladies or whoever..who might be in trouble & don't go to some place which can be in trouble near future etc. Yes. As you guys said BELLE, NARA, COOL are getting famous here. If somebody keep his eye on here. Who knows? .

I can tell you some stories from my local Koreans. Some guys who are my coworkers. Just like my brothers. We are close. & one of escort ladies who I met before- they say they have Korean sites. Navar/ or naver & Daum- they can surf the internet there. I've heard some stories. As below.

1. Somebody got a call from the polce, the police said he used credit card in a massage shop, the police questioned him what he did there, he said he got just massage.. White lie?., police said the owner and the girl already told the truth, so he said he has to be at the police station. Finally he went to the police station. Wow about 40 people there. Waiting for their turn. Even he could see the hundreds of names on a big white board.

---Results: he got fined. But it's still a record in Korea. Be careful.

2. Kiki- escort girl's name, she works on the net posting her telephone number- got caught. Because she's stupid. Even me. If I were a bad person or the police guy. I could have called the police to let them know what she does or could have busted her. The police went to her place and took her computer- because she accept credit card. So if you need to see escort ladies on the net or new paper ads or on the street, you need to select a girl /an agency who works in safe way. It will be good for her/agency and us.

---Results; the police has her telephone records- incalls & outcalls for a year- and her case is still open. And she still works. How can she be so stupid? . Probably. She will work until the trial finishes.

thanks for the update ez. seriously, for those prices, i think the punters here need to stop visiting those places as W75k is quite steep, especially with the provider not taking even her damn bra off.

Officetel. I think it's Korean English-Konglish-

One of my friends saw a guy passing out name cards on the streets, it says in Korean "U want to see a lady in her own officetel? We guarantee. " something like that. I think some massage shops run this kind of business after they get busted. He didn't try. But he just try to call at that number just to check on. A week later. But the phone didn't work. Maybe something happened there?

The police who caught Kiki tried checking some numbers which are suspicious. He found out she works and she also sent a lady. Julia- to hotel, he got Julia's number. She is in Canada now- and called Julia, questioned what she'd done in that room, Julia denied. First time, he said she can be out of Kiki's problem. If she helps him. So Julia told everything what he needed. And later. Julia and Kiki had a big fight. Hummm.

I personally do not believe that the crackdown at belle had anything to do with a 'recent influx of foreigners' I have become friends with one of the girls who worked there. She says foreigners have been going there for a long time, the girls actually prefer foreign men to Korean men because according to them Korean men are jerks / not as sweet (No offense to any of our Korean counterparts, I have many Korean friends and hold no ill will toward any of them I am simply repeating what several of the girls there have stated).

She says that a good portion of their business particularly during the daytime were foreign English teachers in particular. What happened is something one of my male Korean friends has told me happens quite often to these businesses. A customer was not satisfied with the service he received and felt ripped off, probably a Korean man trying to obtain extras then used threats to try and get them from the girls. The girls rejected and so the man calls the police and reports the business as a means of inflicting some sort of passive-aggressive revenge against them.

Most of these establishments have some sort of arrangement with either organized crime or the police department directly. They pay protection money to them. However if a report like this is made they have no choice but to make a formal investigation and complete the paperwork. No customers were questioned to my knowledge but the employees and employers had to go to the police station and be questioned. The end result is they were made to pay a fine and some of the girls quit. The business is still operating as usual and will continue to do so. Once this sort of thing happens it is generally quite some time before it happens again so I don't think anyone really has to worry about going back there.

On a side note I agree whole heartedly that some common sense rules do apply to this sort of thing. Using a credit card or calling from your own phone is a really big mistake. If you must call I would suggest using a payphone as it can not be traced back to you and cash is a must. I would never even consider using a credit card, in fact generally speaking I prefer not to use a credit card even at restaurants and other legitimate businesses both for fears of my activities being monitored as well as fears that in the wrong hands a credit card number could be used to commit fraud. Perhaps this is paranoid to an extent but at least I never have to worry about such things. With the price of most things in Korea I have never found it difficult or troubling to carry enough cash on hand, I guess some people worry about carrying large sums of cash but I have never had a problem. You do need to be a little careful when in a crowded train though as pickpocketing is still a pretty big problem here.

Also I would like to add that while many places will still turn away or try to overcharge foreign customers the easiest way to get around that is to go in with a Korean friend who can vouch for you. Even some places which have been stated to turn away customers have accepted me when I was accompanied by a colleague and I have never paid more than a Korean native for any services. My friends have said while some places worry that seeing westerners may offend some of their customers the biggest issue is actually the language barrier. Also you have the places which have had a bad experience with some drunk army guy or something going in there and causing a problem. I find as long as you are polite, speak at least basic Korean phrases and treat both the staff and the girls with respect you will become a valued customer.

So remember, play safe and play nice, please don't ruin it for the rest of us.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]She kept saying aniyo and poining to the door but I couldn't understand what she was saying. I could still touch her, but I shit you not, I had to squeeze my hand into her bra! Is this how it is in the afternoon, are the girls more conservative or was there a raid at Cool too and the girls can't get naked? Anyone have any ideas?[/QUOTE]Member 30,

My guess is she was trying to say if you don't like it you can leave. FYI if you are not satisfied you have a few minutes with the girl to decide and you can request a refund. They will provide one to you or in some cases they may even offer you another girl as they do not want to lose a customer. Probably she was just uncomfortable with you personally and didn't want to do it. She may be a new girl or just a prissy one. The service always changes between girls as it really is at their digression how far they will go with a given customer.

Really a shame to hear this though, I was considering checking out cool for a while now but the fact it was only a HJ kinda turned me off to it, if they overcharge and some of the girls won't even take their top off I have absolutely no desire what so ever to do business with them.

I wish someone in here would check out some of the officetel setups, I'm pretty sure there is at least one such setup least a third of the officetel buildings in Kangnam/Yeoksam. There are always cards on the street advertising full service from 100, 000 Won, some even have a 20, 000 won off your first visit coupon. I have seen working girls regularly in a few buildings here. My own building in fact has a large number of them living in it but I think most of them actually work at business clubs (room salons) in the area. That is another thing that would be nice to check out but the prices are a little rich for my blood atm and you can't fly solo to a place like that.

Happy Hunting!

[QUOTE=Seoul Seeker]I have seen working girls regularly in a few buildings here. My own building in fact has a large number of them living in it but I think most of them actually work at business clubs (room salons) in the area. That is another thing that would be nice to check out but the prices are a little rich for my blood atm and you can't fly solo to a place like that.
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Well, I would like to visit a Room Salon at least once while I am here, just to see what they are like and add it to my mongering résumé. I don't really know anyone here that would be willing to go with me, so if anyone on this board wants to get together and check one out, maybe we can put a group together and go. If anyone reading this might be interested, PM me.

[quote=ezinho]that's just what i was thinking as well. it seemed like many more foreigners had been heading to belle in the last month or so. i remember the first time i went there, there was no wait at all, compare that to the last time i went and there was an hour wait. and just look how many times nara has been mentioned on here recently. some ajossi probably got mad that a bunch of wayguks were getting bbbjs from petty korean girls, so they called the cops to complain. lol!

now what the hell am i going to do with all these 5,00 won off coupons i have for belle??

anyways, i wanted to go to belle today, but because of the report by seoulseeker regarding the police raid, i decided to go to cool instead. i got there around 1 pm, i had never been there in the afternoon before so i wasn't sure how the service would differ. i went in and the guy at the door said i had to pay 75,000 won!! wtf is this all about? my korean sucks but what i got from his speech he gave me was that hanguks are charged 65,000 won and wayguks are charged 75,000 won. keep in mind this was a new guy at the door i had never seen before, and he seemed to speak no english whatsoever. can anyone confirm these prices? is this just an afternoon thing or what?

i almost turned around and walked out (which is what i should have done) but i paid the 75,000 and was led to room five. my girl was named chong sol i'd say early to mid 20's. i'm not going to bore you with the whole story, the massage was nice, she looked and smelled good and she beat my dick like it owed her money but she refused to take her top off!!! she was wearing a babydoll with a bra underneath it, and she lowered her babydoll but wouldn't take off her bra. she kept saying aniyo and poining to the door but i couldn't understand what she was saying. i could still touch her, but i shit you not, i had to squeeze my hand into her bra! is this how it is in the afternoon, are the girls more conservative or was there a raid at cool too and the girls can't get naked? anyone have any ideas?[/quote]handjob joints are still in the gray area of the prostitution laws they passed several years ago. cool, as long as it sticks with rub and tug, won't be raided. ever.

service varies from girl to girl. i was going there last year when the price was still 65, 000. i went 4 times, and 3 of the 4 were amazingly good with cute girls that were very open to touching and kissing with tops off. i only had 1 girl there that was a bit prudish and apparently put off by me. she had the top down, but she wouldn't let me kiss her. also, she just had a shitty attitude. on the opposite end of the spectrum, the last time i went there i ended up getting a bbbj from the girl for a few minutes and some seriously hardcore makeout/humping action. i didn't penetrate because it was over her panties, but it could have easily happened. i controlled myself due to the lack of protection.

Talked with my friend who used to work at belle a little more. One customer (one of Nara's regulars) was also busted in the raid. Apparently Belle has been raided 3 times this year alone. The owners do not pay the protection money to police / organized crime so they get cracked down on every few months but they just pay the fines every time and keep the doors open for business.

So imho, sad as it may be it is probably best to stay away from there - really sucks because the pickings are slim for us foreigners.

To try and help out I explored a bit with a Korean friend of mine today. The results of todays exploration is as follows:

1% Massage - 200,000 won. 1 hour. Full service. No foreigners accepted.

If you walk down the street from belle, toward 1% massage, pass it and keep going strait. Go to the intersection and strait across the street. Keep going strait a little further and u will see an anma on the left. 180,000 won. 1 hour. Full service. No foreigners accepted.

Did find a place down one of the alley ways near cool/belle/etc called "Skin Anma" (Written only in Hangul). 180,000 won... 2 full hours. full service. Amazingly they will accept foreigners... but they rip us off for 250,000 won for the same service that is usually 180,000 won... Didn't want to spend that kind of money so I am not sure if the service is good or not. If someone wants to take one for the team and write a review the best directions I can give are as follows:

If you are looking directly at the belle sign, turn 180 degrees and go across the street. You will have to explore the alley ways on the right or left hand side of the intersection. The alley ways run parallel to the direction you are looking (directly away from the belle sign). I don't remember exactly which one it was down. Sorry I can't provide better directions atm.

I found two more places and went into one of them. The first one I will mention may be a gem if the girls and service are good but I did not explore it myself today.

If you get off at yeoksam station, subway line #2. Exit #3. Walk strait down the hill. You will come to a small street, on one side you will see an IBK. On the other side you will see a FedEx. Turn left down this street. You will see a barber pole on the right hand side. Basement level 1 is the massage place.

This place is apparently 100,000 won. 1 hour. 10 minutes of full service toward the end. The downside is there is only 2 girls working and customers come and go at fairly regular intervals day and night. Thus, these girls are probably fairly used up. While I did not see them I suspect these are not the most attractive or young women but it is worth a shot for a brave adventurer. There was no wait when we checked it out but that was mid afternoon. They do accept foreigners and they do not charge us more.

Ok the last place I have to report is worth mention but I don't personally recommend it. If you get off at exit 3 yeoksam station but go past the small street I just mentioned. You will see a "Seven Springs" (buffet) right next to a small alley. Walk down this alley, you will see a motel on the left hand side. Keep going about 2/3rds or 3/4ths of the way down the alley on the right hand side there is a barber pole and "Millennium Massage" written on the sign in Hangul. This is also a basement level location. 70,000 won. 1 hour and 30 minutes. Massage & Hand job only. Foreigners accepted and not over charged. But here is the bad bit. There are 4 girls working there. All low quality. I mean one of them had a decent body but still an ugly face... Most of them were really quite ugly though. Personality wise they are quite friendly and the massage was really professional. It actually hurt but we both felt great after we left. The handjob was very skilled but I just couldn't get aroused for two reasons. 1) The girl was maybe a 6 at best (she was the best looking one). 2) None of the girls will take off any clothing, you can touch them a bit but they won't even take their tops off, no kissing, nothing (not that I would want to kiss them anyway, but it would be nice to see some decent breasts). So if you are looking for a good massage place I would recommend it but if you are looking for a happy ending I would suggest you look elsewhere.

Hope you all find this helpful. I hope someone can try some of these other places I have mentioned and report back to us. I will explore some more in the coming weeks and report my findings. I hope together we can find a fair number of good, foreign friendly, providers that won't try to rip us off.

1% massage looked really good btw. I wish we had some way to convince these establishments that it would be in their best interest to open their doors to us. We could be loyal, kind and generous customers.

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Folks,
After RTFF, couldn't find recent tips on soapy msgs. Not looking for FS, just for the sliding and HE fun. Any ideas, please?
Cheers

Hi everyone,

First Report here, so I'd like to say thanks to all of you who have contributed. I'm particularly interested in Noraebang/Bukchngdong type activities so special thanks to Seoulsurvivor, Byung etc and others who have posted really useful info on that.

Took a first trip down to Bukchangdong a couple of weeks ago with a friend who was passing through Seoul. I'm not Korean and was glad to see the touts outside had no problem accepting me a foreigner- that said, it was Sunday and raining so business was quite slow.

Anyway, we were approached by a number of touts and went into the first place on the of the main street with all the clubs, having come from City Hall station. I actually didn't get the name (sorry).

I speak decent (ish) Korean so negotiated a the standard 200, 000 for 90 mins per girl. I specifically said "hardcore" "buckchangdong style".

Went up to the room- quite nice but not super-luxury. Waited 5/10 mins and two girls came in. Girl one (for my friend- he was the guest) rocking body and face, probably a solid 8 or 9. The other one super thin but quite ugly probably a 6. A bit disappointing but determined to enjoy it, not too bothered, and plus, they were both very friendly.

Standard hardcore room serve- strip show completely naked, kissing, tit sucking etc. Wouldn't let us touch their pussies though which surprised me. Lots of drinking semi naked dancing etc until 15 mins to go. Then it was BJ time (or so I thought)

This was the kicker: my girl refused to do a BJ telling me she only does HJs- I argued with her a little, but then gave up- no point if she doesn't want to.

I wonder if this has happened to anyone else. I spoke to the manager afterwards and he said some of the girls do oral and some don't.

Anyway, still not a bad experience for a first time, and might try again at a more reputable place in the future. I notice Fox in Gangnam has been recommended, any other suggestions? Feel free to PM as well.

Happy hunting

Hi All,

Thanks for all posters here about the reports in a difficult mongering town. I arrived this morning in town for the first time in my life and desperately needed my pipes cleaned. Since I did not find any easy option for my what I preferred, a visit to my suite, I decided to go for something which sounded more adventouros.

I went to Miari, easy to find by going to Metro Station Gireum and gettingout Exit 10, 20 meters ahead you will see the dark alleys just to your right. I went in the first one and got no attention at all by the mamasans sitting outside of blacked doors, but some of the "shops" had open doors and I could see the pretty strange situation in there, between 3 and 5 women sitting on the floor in wedding dresses. What the hell is this I thought, but just continued as advised by previous reports down the dark alleys. I never felt unsafe in any way, even though very dark and strange, but no hostility or any sign of danger. After maybe 100 meters and many shops and mamasans passed the first started to talk to me. In Korean only, mine is none existent, but is was pretty clear what they wanted: get me into their "shop". So I stopped and one woman showed me 7 fingers, indicating it was 70. 000 Won, I accepted to have a look and she opened the door. Inside 3 nice ladies, on the floor in wedding dresses. Well, I nearly fell and love with one of them, but thought I should not go into the first one for principle reasons. All girls had a nice attitude, smiled and waved at me.

I excused myself which was not a problem at all.

A bit further down the road I stopped again, same finger signs, 70000, and I went in the room and have chosen a nice Korean girl. She smiled, seemed fine with me beeing a foreigner and I payed the price to the mamasan. My lady in her wedding dress lead me down the stairs into the basement and guided me into a small room and asked me if I wanted to drink anything (well, drink and hand language was the only way to ask), soon she came in with a coke, asked me to undress and two minutes later she came in naked as well.

We "talked" a bit, cuddled, kissed and started a nice half hour of fun, she cleaned my private parts after a while, started a BBBJ and asked if I wanted a condom before mounting on me. All went well, a nice time, kind of a GFE in a strange atmosphere. Alone for the atmosphere I will come back.

After I came no stress, she sucked my cock again, cleaned it afterwards and guided me up where I got another drink.

I liked it, but do understand that it is not to everybodies liking and much might depend on the girl you get.

I can recommend to go there if you are not looking for top-notch clubs, but if you like some adventure and strange fun.

Play safe and have fun,

Schaf

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Sorry to bother you guys with my own paranoia but I have a question that maybe some of the experienced mongers might be able to help me with. A few weeks back I hit up one of the Double Barber Shop places in the Nowon area. Being quite drunk they were still quite happy to take me in.

The regular foot wash and leg massage were provided but she quite quickly asked me to remove my underwear and went to town. I asked for a condom, but in Korean she said that she is wearing a female condom so don't worry (I know I should have pressed the issue). I remember she put towels around my manhood and then she mounted me. The thing is I don't think she let me penetrate. I remember she kept her right hand down there and would not let me put my hand near that area. My question is, is it the norm for those ladies to fake FS and just give a HJ instead? Furthermore, being that I didn't push for a make condom, I am a little paranoid about HIV. Does anyone know if those ladies get tested? Just looking for info if anyone has any. Cheers and I appreciate anyone's advice.

I checked out Itaewon last week with a buddy from work. After having a few beers at a local pub, we made our way to Hooker Hill. I had never been before and my buddy had, so I asked him for the grand tour. Apparently he was ripped off to the tune of 200,000 won by one of the juicy girls, because he kept buying her drinks, thinking she was going to come back to his place. Poor newbie, what can I say, mongering is a big boy's hobby!

We walked up the main road past Rio Club, a few decent looking women were working at the club accross the street from there, spoke English well but beers for us were 10,000 so we decided to keep walking. Then went up the "Hill" some of the bars were locked for whatever reason, so we couldn't go inside some places but at others, the women would come out and try to drag us in. One place in particular up the hill, one lady of about 40 burst out of her club while we were just standing in the middle of the road and tried to drag us inside! She was scary looking and wouldn't take no for an answer! Finally we got away from her and checked out a few more places. One place near the top of the hill had a fat, old water buffalo of a woman, but she had fallen asleep on her couch, so she couldn't pull a suprise attack like the last one.

The only one we were thinking might be good was a girl around the middle of the hill, the name of the bar was Moon Shine, she was young and looked Thai, but she said she is Korean. She quoted 60,000 for a BJ. I didn't have enough cash on me at the time so I passed, but I probably would have done it.

There hasn't been many reports about the Hill, probably because it's not worth mentioning, but can anyone give some updated info? Any girls or bars that are recommended?

On a side note, there was this Brasilian girl in Geckos pub that I think is a hooker, actually she looks real familar to me, I think I recognize her from my time in Brasil. I spoke to her for a little bit, she said she works for LG but I think I've seen her in Help Disco in Rio before. Walt Disney was right, it's a small world after all!

Hi All,

After my good experience last night I thought a friend of mine who is in Seoul with me these days should get his pipes cleaned as well and led him to Miari during daytime at about 3pm.

We went there and straight into the first alley, first thing I noticed is that I would never be able to find the place where I was last night, everything looks shabby and similar. There were much less mamasans around, no open doors at all, or those which were open had just some ladies cleaning the rooms in it.

We just continued a bit down the road and every single mamasan around was approaching us, they were waving at us from far away and trying to get our attention. I did only see one other Koran man in the alleys, so low business might mean more foreigner friendliness, although I cannot say it was much of a difference compared to the nightime situation. We went with four or five of them to see their girls. Today not in wedding dresses, but either in bikinis or short and sexy dresses. Most of the girls were quite cute, I would have taken some of them, but my friend wanted to check out more which was no problem. Finally I found one who I really fancied and went in. She was quite tall, I guess 170, slim, perfect perky tits and long legs.

Same procedure, get off your shoes and the girl will lead you to a small room, you get undressed, minutes later she comes in naked.

This time it was less of a GFE, just a regular service, she kneeled between my legs, massaged them a bit, then cleaned the private parts, kissed my body and started a BBBJ which was a fantastic DT. When she asked me to fuck and asked for a condom or not I just decided to continue with the fantastic BJ as it was really exceptional. She understood and continued, I finally came in her mouth and she did swallow everything to my surprise.

Well, no GFE, but a solid service with a lucky surprise in the end.

My friend had a similar experience, a solid service, no GFE, but nothing to complain about. For a quick shag it is a hit or miss I guess, but for the price of 70. 000 fine.

If anybody knows some kind of escort service providing girls to the hotel I would be happy about any experience, reports in this thread are pretty outdated about this kind of adventure.

Have fun,

Schaf

Hi guys,

Re my report below- the name was Bomoolsum- avoid.

I love this site. Man it's a godsend for those of us who work hard and need to follow our hobby to help us relax!

First time in Korea and after reading the forums settled on a trip to Yong San. Late Sunday night after a long flight. Settled into the hotel and with jet lag kicking in, surfed this forum for some intelligence. Settled on Yong San and headed out around midnight. Took the easy way out and took a taxi, being midnight of the first night in a new strange new town, I wasn't about to take a magical discovery tour of the local subway! Staying nr Seoul Station so fare was just 6000 and no traffic at that time of night. Mr taxi driver knew exactly what I wanted after making the universal signal for women with his hands, wavy and curvy.

Anyway arrived soon after midnight and wandered the streets, I was drawn to the area like a moth to a light bulb. About 20 girls all up. Many places closed. Most ignoring me with puckered looks on their faces, Maybe it just all the make up they trowel on? I'm Western, White and wearing Smart casual- slacks and shirt. Made my way all the way down and across the intersection which divides north and south (I think) and around the back of the main street. It was a little dark but I seemed to get more invitations from the streets parallel to the main street. I started to get invited over by some of the girls. One girl, a picture perfect cupie doll standing about 5'10, very tight and cute smile, 70, 000 agreed and wandered in. Undressed and had a heart attack when she came back in, She'd removed her platform shoes, all 8' of them and now stood eye to eye with me! Nothwithstanding the sudden drop in packaging, she was a dynamo, really making an effort and seemingly enjoying herself. While the environment takes a little getting used to, reminds me of a coverted garden shed or shipping container, but tastefully done up, the experience was great and helped to work off my jet lag. Wandered around some more, prices ranged around the 70-80k mark but no one a cute as the first girl. Full service, good BBBJ, fine attention to detail and a variety of approaches and techniques for the remainder of the session.

On the way out, another beauty in pink skin tight pants and a bust which sould stop her from breaking her nose if she fell flat on her face. A big smile and a beckonging wave and 70, 000 later. She was also wearing high platform shoes, but had a slim and fit body to die for. Squat in her shower for a soapy wash of the old fella and the sewage outlet- and then onto business. She was less obliging that the first girl and not a cute, but watching that tight body from behing and I worked away was compensation enough. Anyway after the deed, cleaned up and got myself back into a taxi and into bed for some sleep before an early morning start. While I do hate jet lag, I try and make the most of it.

I'd happily go again but am working tonight in the hotel, Am surfing to get some more intel on the Massage or full service shops that operate around this area- Staying, dare I say it, Hilton, if anyone can recommend some good satisfying massage HJ or FS, id be greateful. I'm on my own and speak no Korean, so I'm feeling my way around with only this forum as reference.

I wandered through the Hotel tonight, one lousy bar and an even lousier band. No action there. On the first night wandered down the street and found myself at the Namdaemun marekts- Nothing happening there. So thats when I decided to venture further out!

Mongering in Korea seems harder than other places, Japan, Thailand or HK for instance, but the women are so beautiful and the efforts' have to be worth it.

If anyone's interested in some company while I'm in town for the week- all the better.

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[QUOTE=Seoul Seeker]
She says that a good portion of their business particularly during the daytime were foreign English teachers in particular. What happened is something one of my male Korean friends has told me happens quite often to these businesses. A customer was not satisfied with the service he received and felt ripped off, probably a Korean man trying to obtain extras then used threats to try and get them from the girls. The girls rejected and so the man calls the police and reports the business as a means of inflicting some sort of passive-aggressive revenge against them.
So remember, play safe and play nice, please don't ruin it for the rest of us.[/QUOTE]



This is not entirely true.

The only way Police are going to investigate is if there is a formal complaint. Therefore, the "customer" has to give his ID number and name. I'm sure ruff retaliation would happen if and when that formal complaint gets into the hands of baddies. But an anonymous phone call to the police is just as useless as a prank call.

I went to the Suwon RLD last weekend during the afternoon. The directions I found here were actually too detailed. I got out of the station and started walking left, but walked way too far into the middle of nowhere. The RLD is across the street from the main entrance to the station, slightly to the left. The main road of the RLD is plainly visible from the bus stop on the station side of the street.

Not only were there few girls on the main street at this time (about 3 pm), they didn't want anything to do with me. I kept walking and ducked into one of the alley ways. A very friendly woman who was a bit overweight took me by the hand and led me into her...house, or whatever you call it. She held my hand for a while, carefully examining me, before we agreed on 50,000 won.

We went upstairs and before we got started, she asked for a 30,000 tip for "sex slow, slow slow". I didn't really care, and she had a reasonably nice figure, so I gave it to her.

She kept telling me that I was huge compared to Korean men and that I was too big (I'm pretty sure I'm not; is this just a tactic to avoid FS?). I was able to take my time with her and afterwards, she explained to me that I was in really good shape and asked me how to say heart in English, which is not easy when neither of you speaks the same language. She carefully cleaned my dick and face and then asked if I'd come again. I said I would, and I would, but I couldn't find her again to save my life.

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[QUOTE=BruceTea]This is not entirely true.

The only way Police are going to investigate is if there is a formal complaint. Therefore, the "customer" has to give his ID number and name. I'm sure ruff retaliation would happen if and when that formal complaint gets into the hands of baddies. But an anonymous phone call to the police is just as useless as a prank call.[/QUOTE]As I know. From an article of a new paper- when miss korea.com (kim's massage) got busted-3 years ago-, actually one local Korean who was pissed off called the police and gave them some info how they work, police had worked on them for a while, and finally one day they broke into a room of JW Marriot hotel-after following escort girls-, arrested 5 Japanese clients, the owners of the web site and the girls and booked all of them. Besides they found other girls' info who had worked with them and called them to be in the police station to be investigated. They had taken their computer at that time and so I think they still have all client information. Credit card, names etc.. They could have investigated more if they want-when they were on TV, they said they would keep investgating showing credit card numbers and names-, but they quit. Probably they didn't want to spread out their issue more for a political issue that might be happening. Also might have felt it's shame domestic problems-

It reminded me of a girl who has her website-working girl- she said she can see who sees her web site, as she said sometimes police accesses her site-as she said, she can't swallow a laugh in front of her computer when she realizes they do., but they can't do anything to her, no email address, no phone number no exchanging money on there.

The only way to contact her is PM. Police never can trace PM as she said.

Hi All,

Uff, it seems I do not have fun with experiences in my Hotel Rooms. If you want read a report from my Brazil trip a bit ago. But this is not what I want to report about today, today it is still Seoul.

I read a report by our fellow mongerer Tankuki where he explains that he got a number from a pimp a while ago, which he thankfully made available to me by PM. If you want it after this report from me, you can have it too. Tankuki, thanks very much for your immediate reply giving me the number, I should have better not asked for it. (just to clarify, Tankuki had no experience at all with the pimp, just got his number and offered it to us).

Anyways, I called the pimp, he spoke reasonable english, I asked him for a young girl, offereing BBBJ and rimming. I insisted at least three times in the riming aspect and explained it in different words. He said no problem, a 23yo girl will come and offer the service. I was really into the idea of getting my ass licked since I did not yet find this anywhere in Seoul.

So she came, quite in time, but looked about 40yo, not ugly or anything, but just a 40yo, a bit plump, but ok, on the scale maybe a 5. So I was turned off quite a bit, but too horny to send her away and thought I will just close my eyes, think of a beatuy and get my ass licked and everything will be fine.

In she went, sat down and immediately started annoying me with her attitude, giggling, phoning, talking Korean, pointing at two bottles of beer and obviously telling me that I was obviously a heavy drinker (well, she might be right with that), "two", "two", "two" was one of her view english words, which she used extensively and that with an expression on her face as if I was a cockroach.

Time for sending her away shouted my brain to me, but the second brain was louder and saw her mouth open without talking bcs her tongue deep in my dark opening. We finally agreed to shower, seperately, me first, then herself and went to bed afterwards.

I cannot really describe her perfomance in bed, but it was one of the worst I ever experienced, she laughed, played with my dick like a child plays with toys, laughed, spoke Korean, laughed more, played more, said the obvious "two" all the time and laughed further. I guess she laughed because I did not get a hard on, but how could I with that performance?

I managed to explain her to suck me, which she surprisingly did very well, for a few seconds and then wanted to put a condom on. I insisted that she continues blowing and tried to explain her to toss my salad. And unfortunately I think she understood. Bcs she was freaking out as if I was "two" cockroaches at the same time climbing up her pussy. Uff.

For me every thought of ever having sex again was gone and I told her thats it, she should go please. I tried to give her 150k of the 250k which were agreed on the phone. I thought this might be fine for half an hour presence with unbelievable performance, but then she freaked out even more.

Shouted at me like hell and I just wanted her to leave. Finally I called the pimp and explained him the story, his englich was now surprisingly bad and then she took the phone, argued with him more than 10 minutes and I sat there and just again thought of never having sex again. This went on for a while, she called somebody else, a woman, gave me the phone, but the woman did not speak english as well. To cut a long story short, finally I gave her 250k apologised in the best way I could and tried to convince her to get dressed and get the hell out of my room.

Finally she did leave. I am still here. Frustrated, blue, filled balls and the only thing I want is to get my ass licked and a decent blow job.

I guess I will play with myself tonight and give it another try tomorrow, but definitely not with this pimp.

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The news was on TV.

One owner of the massage shops committed suicide because the police has kept busting them. And even other owners of the massage shops in Janandong area have had demonstration complaining of their being unfair.

If the new bill-it's pending now, but we guess it will be passed about in 6 months- is passed, the only people who can offer massage service in Korea will be blind people.
So all massage shops -offers FS, BJ etc- or massage ads on the newpapers are supposed to be shut down. But I guess even if the new bill is passed, they will open other similar business in thier own way.

[QUOTE=Byung]This is horrible news if it's true. Jangan-dong was my favorite place to go back in 2005. I'd go there every Sunday night to finish the week with a nice soapy massage and an orgasm for 80,000 KRW...

Can anyone else confirm if this is true or not? I won't be in Korea for another four months (anyone want to go to room salon in Dec?)... but I certainly hope it's not true!!![/QUOTE]I can unfortunately confirm this, went there with a friend and we thought for a while that we must have gotten the wrong directions, but after a while I aw some signs with familiar names from the forum, such as "Rose", all closed, and yes, some signs were even removed, the bigger places were locked town with chains. It seems there are only the business saloons left.

[QUOTE=Schaf29]

Finally she did leave. I am still here. Frustrated, blue, filled balls and the only thing I want is to get my ass licked and a decent blow job.

I guess I will play with myself tonight and give it another try tomorrow, but definitely not with this pimp.

[/QUOTE]
Wow, what a fuckin drag. Sorry you ended up TOFTT like that. I'll chuck the phone number now to make sure we never call it again...

If my lousy directions would've worked you could've had a better time at the soapland-style place I went to in May. Good luck in future adventures.

Tankuki

[QUOTE=Robbinkk]The news was on TV.
If the new bill-it's pending now, but we guess it will be passed about in 6 months- is passed, the only people who can offer massage service in Korea will be blind people.
So all massage shops -offers FS, BJ etc- or massage ads on the newpapers are supposed to be shut down. But I guess even if the new bill is passed, they will open other similar business in thier own way.[/QUOTE]

So if you are not blind you can't give a legit massage? Blind Adjumas can still give HJs/BJs, no? They still have hands and mouths even though you probably won't want one from them but not sure how restricting massages so only the blind can give one will help the moral crusader's cause. Isn't that discrimination against people who are not blind? Well this is Korea so who knows.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]So if you are not blind you can't give a legit massage? Blind Adjumas can still give HJs/BJs, no? They still have hands and mouths even though you probably won't want one from them but not sure how restricting massages so only the blind can give one will help the moral crusader's cause. Isn't that discrimination against people who are not blind? Well this is Korea so who knows.[/QUOTE]When a bill was introduced, it's because of the disabled.

Korea is not that good country.so far-for the handicapped..you see the streets, have you ever seen any handicapped on wheelchairs? Not many. Have you seen any wheel chairs on a bus?. The bill was introduced for the blind people- not easy to get a job-, but as you know, everybody has a right to choose a job or what they do for a living, that's why it hasn't been passed. The Constitutional Court of Korea inquired that case to the Humanrights of Korea, and the Humanrights of Korea adviced that the rights to choose of Jobs shouldn't infringe on the right of the blind people. We will see what's going to happen.

[QUOTE=Schaf29]Hi All,

Uff, it seems I do not have fun with experiences in my Hotel Rooms. If you want read a report from my Brazil trip a bit ago. But this is not what I want to report about today, today it is still Seoul.

I read a report by our fellow mongerer Tankuki where he explains that he got a number from a pimp a while ago, which he thankfully made available to me by PM. If you want it after this report from me, you can have it too. Tankuki, thanks very much for your immediate reply giving me the number, I should have better not asked for it. (just to clarify, Tankuki had no experience at all with the pimp, just got his number and offered it to us).

Anyways, I called the pimp, he spoke reasonable english, I asked him for a young girl, offereing BBBJ and rimming. I insisted at least three times in the riming aspect and explained it in different words. He said no problem, a 23yo girl will come and offer the service. I was really into the idea of getting my ass licked since I did not yet find this anywhere in Seoul.

So she came, quite in time, but looked about 40yo, not ugly or anything, but just a 40yo, a bit plump, but ok, on the scale maybe a 5. So I was turned off quite a bit, but too horny to send her away and thought I will just close my eyes, think of a beatuy and get my ass licked and everything will be fine.

In she went, sat down and immediately started annoying me with her attitude, giggling, phoning, talking Korean, pointing at two bottles of beer and obviously telling me that I was obviously a heavy drinker (well, she might be right with that), "two", "two", "two" was one of her view english words, which she used extensively and that with an expression on her face as if I was a cockroach.

Time for sending her away shouted my brain to me, but the second brain was louder and saw her mouth open without talking bcs her tongue deep in my dark opening. We finally agreed to shower, seperately, me first, then herself and went to bed afterwards.

I cannot really describe her perfomance in bed, but it was one of the worst I ever experienced, she laughed, played with my dick like a child plays with toys, laughed, spoke Korean, laughed more, played more, said the obvious "two" all the time and laughed further. I guess she laughed because I did not get a hard on, but how could I with that performance?

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Probably you must have called a number of massage ads on the newpaper, anyway-or other number-.

In that case, all you can do. If you are picky or willing to send the girl back- is preparing some money for taxi fee,.just be nice- or make them give you a word that you don't need to pay for taxi fee, if you don't like the lady who's coming by..I don't think they will promise.

I have asked for some photos on the net, an agency asked me too much info to go on the process after sending me photos, I rejected. Even I couldn't count on their photos, looked like the photos came from model magazines. One lady who's working posting her phone number sent her photos and she came by, wow, I sent her back giving her taxi fee, suddenly she asked me for cancellation fee, and I said it's her fault to have sent me unreal photos. And other girl who looked just so so in her photos, she came by, she was really better than photos, and she knew that. I said she might need to change her photos or get some new photos.. But she said she meant it, hum, whatever.

Hi All,

After my sad story with the hotel visit I did not give up, I wanted some rimming and I finally got it!

I finally figured out also that Barber Shops are completely unlike Anmas, which I was not sure of after RTFF, honestly with time pressure not enough, but anyways I now understand the difference.

Today I had to go back to the Gangnam area, because I have forgotten my bag there some days ago in a restaurant (at this opportunity I visited Belle and got a rushed service by Nara, nothing to write home about, if you have nothing else to do in the area ok, but I would definitely not go back), but today I thought some sightseeing might be good and I just walked around the streets and looked around the signs which were described in an earlier post so well, I just quote from "Prodiver" here and hope this is ok: "Attractive other than the enhancements. To find these places, you'll need to learn at least enough to read "An Ma" in Hangeul, which is pretty easy. I'd put the Hangeul here, but, for some reason this site has a bizarre rule against doing that. Basically, look for what looks like two letters (actually two syllables comprised of 3 letters and 2 letters, respectively). The first syllable will be comprised of a letter that looks like O in the top left (which is silent at the beginning of a syllable), the Korean letter for "ah" at the right which looks like a vertical line with a short stroke to the right in the middle. At the bottom will be the Korean letter for "N" which looks sort of like an English letter "L", except it is wider than it is tall. The syllable for Ma will consist of a square (Korean "M") and to the right of that will be another "ah" letter. I really hope this site will eventually come to its senses on allowing the publication of foreign scripts for the purposes of providing identification tips. " This is how I identified the sign in a parallell street of the main from the Gangnam road heading towards Belle and Cool. You leave Gangnam Station, Exit 5 and turn left at a bar/resto called "Kahunaville" and turn in the first street to the right. In the middle of the block you can see a sign with red letters on black ground as explained above. It is floors 5-8 if you enter. I walked in and met a nice guy at the 5th floor who did not understand a word of english, but called a lovely lady who punched in a calculator 250k after a short discussion with the other guy. I am pretty sure that they discussed how much they could get from me for their on purse on top of the regular price. Anyways, they were very friendly and what I understood was that this was for a two hour treatment and I thought this was ok, whithout knowing what the deal was. The only thing we could get to be understood was "massage".

So, I paid and still did not know what will be happening.

I was led to a dressing room, very clean and modern, locked my things, showered and was taken 3 floors up into a stylish room and was suddenly greeted by "Coco", a girl I would rate an 11 on the scale up to 10 (well on the scale of Asian girls whom I am not fully up to). She looked like a Top-Model. She undressed me from my shorts and robe I got, put me on a chair, started teasing me, sucking my balls, kissing me all over, just not my dick. Then she moved away to the bed which was a meter away, played with herself, showed me her pussy, played with it and just made me wanna come. She invited me to to come up the bed and started kissing me all over (where do these girls get the moisture in their mouth from? ), all my body was taken care of, eventhough she took care that no body fluids from my side got in contact with her, so I could finger her (and she was the tightest girl I ever felt), but she would not give me a full BBBJ, but rimmed me with a condom over her tongue, spit on my cock and finally fucked me with a condom in various positions.

After I came she offered me a drink and invited me to the shower.

Well, she washed me in the shower completely.

Then I was guided into another room and a blind guy came in to give me a massage like I never experienced it before. It was a perfect, relaxing massage. Nothing to do with any erotic feeling, but just a massage from a professional who knows what he is doing.

After that someone came in and asked me if I wanted to sleep or go home. I wanted to leave with a smile on my face.

I should have discovered what an Anma is before, this was an incredible experience and I would go back again immediately.

Unfortunately I have to leave tomorrow.

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[QUOTE=Schaf29] I identified the sign in a parallell street of the main from the Gangnam road heading towards Belle and Cool. You leave Gangnam Station, Exit 5 and turn left at a bar/resto called "Kahunaville" and turn in the first street to the right. In the middle of the block you can see a sign with red letters on black ground as explained above. It is floors 5-8 if you enter. I walked in and met a nice guy at the 5th floor who did not understand a word of english, but called a lovely lady who punched in a calculator 250k after a short discussion with the other guy. I am pretty sure that they discussed how much they could get from me for their on purse on top of the regular price. Anyways, they were very friendly and what I understood was that this was for a two hour treatment and I thought this was ok, whithout knowing what the deal was. The only thing we could get to be understood was "massage".
[/QUOTE]You found the "Skin Anma" I had referred to in an earlier post. (It says Skin in hangul as well but I guess not everyone on here knows how to read yet). Their normal rate is 180, 000 won but they rip foreign customers off for 250, 000 won which is why I have previously walked out of there without any service. Still your review sounds compelling if the girl was as attractive as you say she was it may be worth it.

On a side note my friend and I saw an extremely attractive looking girl the other day in Gangnam and we just had the instinct that she was a working girl. Shamelessly we approached her to find out what was going on. Apparently she works in an officetel setup with a number of other girls. We have to speak to her 'pimp' to make an arrangement but she said foreigners are welcome and the fee is between $80 and $120 for an hour. Full service but we have not yet found out what the difference in price range gets you. We'll most likely find out some afternoon next week. I'll post a review on how things turn out.

[QUOTE=Halcyon901]Hey buddy, glad you enjoyed Cheonho. I personally went to the booth you speak of, at least 6 times! Personally, that booth has the most selection, although when you walk there, the two booths on the right are great as well. I called them A Team and B Team. You will notice that the girls at those booths wear similar outfits, one side will wear white, the other side will wear black.

([i]snip[/i])

As for BBFS, the only time I was forced to wear a rubber was with a girl, she said something about gyopo policy. I guess my Korean accent is pretty good, most of the time, the girls don't know I am gyopo until we actually get into the room. Don't fret, if you go often enough, that service will be offered.[/QUOTE]My apologies for not reporting this sooner. A couple of weeks after I went to Cheonho RLD I went again (early July), and this time, I went to either the A-Team or B-Team -- don't know which, because the color outfits weren't as Halcyon901 said. However, it was the second one on the right. The first didn't have many girls, maybe three or four. The second one had more, and everytime a guy passes, two or three of them would go to the doorway and call out to him, inviting him to come in.

I'll just state that at that place, BBFS was available -- at least, it was offered to me. But remember that I'm a gyopo, and I can speak a little Korean. In case you are interested in BBFS, I don't know if this is offered to foreigners. I ended up going there three consecutive weekends in July. ;) Again, 70k for short time (about 15 min.).

This kind of service may not be everyone's thing, but I liked it, and I hope that the Cheonho RLD will still be there when I return next summer. (I returned to the US a couple of weeks ago. :()

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Great article on the local scene:

[url]http://koreabeat.com/?p=1657[/url]

[QUOTE=Schaf29]Hi All,

.....
To find these places, you'll need to learn at least enough to read "An Ma" in Hangeul, which is pretty easy. I'd put the Hangeul here, but, for some reason this site has a bizarre rule against doing that. Basically, look for what looks like two letters (actually two syllables comprised of 3 letters and 2 letters, respectively). The first syllable will be comprised of a letter that looks like O in the top left (which is silent at the beginning of a syllable), the Korean letter for "ah" at the right which looks like a vertical line with a short stroke to the right in the middle. [/QUOTE]

Here is the work ANMA in Korean

Anma = 안마

[QUOTE=Sauro07]Went to check some hotels, on behalf of the gang:

Sejong Hotel: cute girl, strong massage, no extras. 110,000 (1:30h)
Palace Hotel: girl is super cute, very good massage, no extras. 100,000 (1:30h)
Samjung Hotel: strong massage, girl is cute, no extras. 105,000 (1:30h)
Koreana Hotel: good massage, girl is a hottie, small manouvres in the dark included. 110,000 (1:30h)

Still looking for more places like Koreana. Don't need FS.

Cheers,

Sauro07[/QUOTE]Did you check out any other places recently?

Personally a big fan of the Sporex at Koreana Hotel - a brilliant massage finished off with a HJ...but would like to find some similar places - maybe with a little more action also. Anyone been to "Capital Hotel" near Itaewon recently - read about that place in the past.

Hearing Westin Chosun has a decent massage with cute girls, but no extras whatsoever.

Where else?

Hello you all,

Thanks for all those reports, very intersting and great for a white foreigner traveler like me. I am here for 3 weeks in Gangnam (Intercontinental), speak nor read no Korean, I am single and totaly in admiration in front of those petite cute or long leg asian women.

I am looking for A) salon or club where we can see those girls naked while having some food and drinks (meaning having visa receipts for food. To put on spend account);

B) daeddalbang place to get a nice HJ with a good look to a girl, I do not ask for much more.

Thanks in advance for the ideas, and I open to go with other guys around this week-end.

[QUOTE=Robbinkk]The news was on TV.

One owner of the massage shops committed suicide because the police has kept busting them. And even other owners of the massage shops in Janandong area have had demonstration complaining of their being unfair.

If the new bill-it's pending now, but we guess it will be passed about in 6 months- is passed, the only people who can offer massage service in Korea will be blind people.
So all massage shops -offers FS, BJ etc- or massage ads on the newpapers are supposed to be shut down. But I guess even if the new bill is passed, they will open other similar business in thier own way.[/QUOTE]
Here is an article from the Korea Times about the bust in Jangan-dong:

[url]http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/09/117_30424.html[/url]

What I'm wondering is, what will all the girls do that used to work there? Are they moving on somewhere else? I can't imagine they would go from hooking to getting a job at Dunkin' Donuts. They must be working somewhere else.

Another question: if this bill becomes law, will even places like Cool be shut down?

[QUOTE=Ezinho]Here is an article from the Korea Times about the bust in Jangan-dong:

[url]http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/09/117_30424.html[/url]

What I'm wondering is, what will all the girls do that used to work there? Are they moving on somewhere else? I can't imagine they would go from hooking to getting a job at Dunkin' Donuts. They must be working somewhere else.

Another question: if this bill becomes law, will even places like Cool be shut down?[/QUOTE]The point is that massage licenses are subject to be given only to blind people if the bill is passed, but I think-like you think-they (owners) will hire blind people just to show and keep running same business (HJ, FS etc) and of course those services will be offered by the other girls- not blind-.

I realize somebody posted about Koreana hotel and other hotel service and rates. Koreana hotel was also on TV. It's not a good sign.

By the way Koreans have been talking a lot on the net about Jangandong's issues and they keep posting their comments like this "Go bust Kangnam massage, Mapo...Go bust Newpaper massage..they send girls for foreigners"

Yongsan looks to be shut down at least temporarily. I went through there a few time in the last week and not a single light on in a single window. Does anyone know whats up?

On KBS news this morning they had a long story on a new police crackdown on anma's, barbershop's etc...on the sex being sold. There was even a picture of Cool in the story. The story showed the raids and busts at some of those places including the boxes of condoms, the secret doors to massage rooms, and what each girl had with them.

[QUOTE=Sarteneja]Yongsan looks to be shut down at least temporarily. I went through there a few time in the last week and not a single light on in a single window. Does anyone know whats up?[/QUOTE]
I walked by the RLD in Yongsan last Sunday and it was completely dead as well, but I assumed it was just because it was a Sunday afternoon. It was too bad since I had 70K won burning a hole in my pocket, but it was not meant to be I guess.

I went to Belle today at around 12:30 or so in the afternoon since I still had that won I wanted to spend. Nara was the only one working there. She actually was better today in terms of performance , I think because it was so early in the day. Her massage was quite disappointing, she doesn't put much effort into it, but she gave me a nice BBBJTC. Then she excused herself to rise out her mouth. All in all, ok for 60,000 won, and with these crackdowns, who knows, that might be my last BBBJ at Belle!

There was also a girl that works at Belle only on the weekends named Christina (Bo-Hyun) her performance wasn't that great but her English skills are really nice, so communication is no problem.

1. The riot police are supposed to be committed to the massage shops, barbershops etc. After the moon festival---the whole area including Janandong---so. Just be careful.

2. Newpaper massage ads also. Might not be safer than now.

The National Intelligence Service has a wiretap under consideration. Once they start to work on a wiretap, the police will listen in on your conversation. When and what time a girl visits you.

3. That's why some Internet Ads raised their rates. Even the rates were still high. I think there business must be going well. They don't let you know their telephone number.---except the stupid Kiki who somebody's talking about---

I tried to email them. It's a little hard to get their reply and their procedure is complicated.

Newspaper article this morning stated the KNP will use Riot Police (there are at least 40,000 of them in Seoul) after the Chuseok Holiday (13-15 Sep) to crackdown and close down for good the Yongsan RLD and the "Hill" in Itaewon. They have warned GI's to avoid those areas not to get caught up in the sweep next week. In fact I saw yesterday and the night before the riot police were up and down the "hill" and surrounding area in groups of 12 or more doing their recon.

[QUOTE=Chaukie 74]The point is that massage licenses are subject to be given only to blind people if the bill is passed, but I think-like you think-they (owners) will hire blind people just to show and keep running same business (HJ, FS etc) and of course those services will be offered by the other girls- not blind-.

I realize somebody posted about Koreana hotel and other hotel service and rates. Koreana hotel was also on TV. It's not a good sign.

By the way Koreans have been talking a lot on the net about Jangandong's issues and they keep posting their comments like this "Go bust Kangnam massage, Mapo...Go bust Newpaper massage..they send girls for foreigners"[/QUOTE]Visited my old favourite - Koreana Hotel - but indeed something has happened. While standard is normally to be completely naked (unfortunately not her but yourself), was this time asked to keep my shorts on...the girls spoke limited english but enough to explain that they had been visited by Police recently!

However....at the end of the massage it was business as usual and a HJ was offered - but certainly the feeling is not same when the 1 hour session takes place wearing shorts.

[QUOTE=Taloha]Newspaper article this morning stated the KNP will use Riot Police (there are at least 40,000 of them in Seoul) after the Chuseok Holiday (13-15 Sep) to crackdown and close down for good the Yongsan RLD and the "Hill" in Itaewon. They have warned GI's to avoid those areas not to get caught up in the sweep next week. In fact I saw yesterday and the night before the riot police were up and down the "hill" and surrounding area in groups of 12 or more doing their recon.[/QUOTE]

Will be interesting. Regarding Yongsan- I haven't used for more then 18 months. More a turn down then a great place. The one or other exception excluded.

Regarding the 'hill' I am near and passing the area frequently, however due to the other none red light business which is already more then the shrinked redlight portion.
It wasn't attractive anyhow what was left and the left providers didn't have a glue how to gain and maintain customers. Rip offs all around. So no disadvantage if they close.
There are so many freebees (depend on definition, and the sucess depend on your assets and skills) in Itaewon who are looking for adventures that there will be no female shortage. And it is legal to score a 'freebee'.

Regarding anma's I feel sad,a s I liked the process.

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Chaukie 74]1. The riot police are supposed to be committed to the massage shops, barbershops etc. After the moon festival---the whole area including Janandong---so. Just be careful.

2. Newpaper massage ads also. Might not be safer than now.

The National Intelligence Service has a wiretap under consideration. Once they start to work on a wiretap, the police will listen in on your conversation. When and what time a girl visits you.

3. That's why some Internet Ads raised their rates. Even the rates were still high. I think there business must be going well. They don't let you know their telephone number.---except the stupid Kiki who somebody's talking about---

I tried to email them. It's a little hard to get their reply and their procedure is complicated.[/QUOTE]

Lets assume they clean up everything, which is operating in a dedicated building.
So what will happen?

What will all the girls do who finance their clothing and tutor fees etc.?
They (lets say by far most) are not really abused for what they are doing. They will be in need of money!
And the customers will be in need for the deed!
Prostitution will not be able to be wiped out, some sort will always exist.

I wonder if new forms emerge: How about private parties?
People (males and females) share party fee for goods. Male just bring the fee while the a perty organizer and females bring drinks, food etc. The females get compensation for the stuff they brought (some huge of course) from the party leader who is happy to get some help. Men and women enjoy the party and while enjoying also like to have sex. Just as it happens everywhere in the freebee area. The women don’t get any compensation for sex of course (as they enjoy it and all do it for fun!), they share a party fee and just get a compensation for the help to bring goods.
You ISG mongers figure what I want to create: A process the authorities can’t legally attack.
Tuning such a process for legal operation and still get the girls fair compensation should be possible.
So I ask: Would such a thing run in Korea and how would the concept need to be?

Without such new opportunities to be developed:

I expect more professionals in the hunting grounds of free areas, like dance clubs, disco's, Narä bängs, normal bars etc. People will find out where to meet and hunt and favorite places will emerge and will be spread.
Probably it will be more difficult to distinguish the real freebee and 'half freebee' from the more professional hunting crowd.

For the girls it will be probably more risky, having the need to go to the customer chose place rather then operating from a stationary area.

It will be worse for foreigners, but probably only short time visitors who don't know the hunting grounds and rules properly. Long time visitors find ways and process with freebees after some time. So a lot of work to be done here in ISG.
How do you think fellow mongers?

Brain666

[QUOTE=Brain666]Lets assume they clean up everything, which is operating in a dedicated building.
So what will happen?

What will all the girls do who finance their clothing and tutor fees etc.?

They (lets say by far most) are not really abused for what they are doing.

They will be in need of money!

And the customers will be in need for the deed!

Prostitution will not be able to be wiped out, some sort will always exist.

I didn't say prostitution will be able to be wiped out. I just don't like to meet you in my office for that problem.

After a night drinking with friends, decided to go down to cool/belle for the first time. Unofortunately I arrived at around 5am and belle's doors were locked- may have been to late or may have been due to crackdown. Didn't try and get in to cool but the sign lights were off so assumed it would also be close.

So, I tried 1% massage, an anma place on the same street, but they quoted me 250,000 cash- and told me this was the foreigner price. Didn't really want to spend that much so passed.

Anyway, if you want to pay the premium then they will accept foreigners.

Not sure if cool/belle are shut due to crack down or because its chuseok, but either ways, I recommend caution for the time being.

Cheers and happy hunting

Its because of Chusok I bet.

Even Anmas need holidays!

Hey All,

Just wanted to know if anyone has heard if they raided the hill in itaewon yet or any other new spots... I know one of the girls working the hill it would be sad if they all just disappeared one day.

I personally say they should work on kicking out the illegal immigrant prostitutes before the ones that are citizens or atleast have some sort of visa!

I checked it out on the article of Seoul newpaper this morning.

They don't have English version yet, probably it comes out later of today or tomorrow on another newpapers.

The title is Kangnam Expedition, Sex War started.

It's an just article, nobody said or beleives that Korea will or can absolutely destroy prostitution. Don't get me wrong like Byung666 did.

Actually the Korean media are not supposed to tell the exact suspects' names or the names of shops which are involved for a while until they are turned out to be guilty. That's why we can just see the abbriviations of the massage shops of the articles.

It says fly cops for an entrapment went to M massage in Samsung-dong, G Hugaetel in Nonhyun-dong, and B Hugaetel in Nonhyun-dong and busted customers and girls.

Also says they have already had design drawings which were offered by 119, fire stations to find out labyrinths or secret exits.

SEOUL, South Korea (CNN) -- Police in South Korea have arrested 26 blind masseurs who were threatening to jump from a bridge to protest a government decision they say will rob them of their livelihood.

Some of the men set fire to a car and two jumped off the bridge into Seoul's Han river, the country's national news agency Yonhap said on Thursday. No injuries were reported. The South Korean health ministry recently decided to grant licenses to sighted masseurs and masseuses to practice certain kinds of massages. Since 1963, the law allowed only blind people to practice the profession, Yonhap said. The protesters said the new policy puts their jobs at risk. There are about 15,000 licensed masseurs in the country, which has a blind population of 216,000. "Medical massage is almost the only profession that is open to the blind people. The ministry's decision is threatening our right to live," Shim Wook-seop, one of the protesting masseurs, was quoted as saying.

Another blind masseur, Dong Seong-geun, staged a lone protest in front of the Constitutional Court recently. "I have a wife and two children to support," he told the New York Times. "If I lose this job, I will have to beg on the streets. How can taking away one job from people who only have one compare with taking one job away from sighted people who have a hundred jobs to choose from?" The country's Constitutional Court is expected to rule soon on an appeal filed by several sighted people who argued that the profession cannot be the exclusive domain of the blind. The Massager Association of Korea, representing 120,000 unlicensed masseurs who are working openly and in defiance of the law, is leading the legal challenge. The association keeps a file of members accused of practicing without a license. Those people are usually fined between $450 to $4,500, although the law calls for up to three years in prison.

"It breaks my heart when I think that what I am doing every day, what I consider my calling, is a crime," Park Yoon-soo, president of the association, told the NYT. "We are not trying to steal jobs from the blind. We just want to share the market. We want to live as normal citizens, not as criminals."

It says the police are going to bust 41 Anma shops including barbershops, 95 massage shops, 96 bars including room salongs and officetel prostitution in Kangnam-gu.

It has started on the "hill". Police went to the establishments in uniform and also with undercover police 5 times during the day after Chuseok. Will see what happens this weekend. Apparently the reason for the "hill" crackdown is due to the streets surrounding the mosque becoming "Little Nigeria". At all hours of the evening and night the Nigerians accost girls and women walking in the area even though they are not "working girls". Secondly, many of them are doing credit card scams (e.g, stolen) in the establishments causing more headaches for the police. One I know on the "hill" was away visiting home in the countryside and the girls working her bar allowed a Nigerian to use a credit card to get cash from the bar. It turned out stolen and her bar is out many $$. A few Nigerian restaurants opened near the mosque and turing a corner going to the "hill" was packed with roaming Nigerians near those restaurants. Police figure it would be easier to make the establishments more like the rest of Itaewon so they don't have to work on assault complaints and scams of the Nigerians.


[QUOTE=Lost In Seoul]Hey All,

Just wanted to know if anyone has heard if they raided the hill in itaewon yet or any other new spots... I know one of the girls working the hill it would be sad if they all just disappeared one day.

I personally say they should work on kicking out the illegal immigrant prostitutes before the ones that are citizens or atleast have some sort of visa![/QUOTE]

Was in Seoul for the first time this weekend. Went to an area called Gangnam? Was there for a party for someone at a club called Big Rock. First of all, this place was rockin with tons of hot chicks. My boys and I ended up drinking too much, and needed a place to stay so we got rooms at a place next to Jelly Motel. The room was 55$ USD. In the room was a card with a hot girl on it and a phone number. I was tempted to call the number, but it was 230am and I was drunk and tired.

However, I heard my neighbor get some sort service. It went like this: I heard his phone ring. Then about 5 minutes later there was a knock at his door, and I heard a male and female voice. Then the door closed.

So, sorry for the newbie like question, but asuming I was in a sex motel, and the late night call, I am sure this was a WG situation. So, was this one of the girls from the card? I am sure the pictures were not the ones that show up, cause if they were I would surely pay for thier service. And by the way, how much are we talking? BTW, I am foriegn guy with no hangul skills at all.

Had fun at the bar though, and the korean girls were super hot around that area.

C.

I started with the last post on this thread, 277 I think. Wow, some pretty angry posts back then. I thought it was funny to read about how guys could not get laid if they were foriegner. Well, not funny, but humourus. Back in the early 90's, if you were foriegner (at least in Osan), you could not walk down the street without Korean girls hitting on you. Most would say in broken English, "you take me to America"? Or something like that. Also, ST was $40 USD and LT was $100. These were pretty established rules. The girls were also pretty young, and you had to be careful because the really young ones (read 13-15) would try and dress up pretend they were older just to be with Americans. I guess times sure have changed. Choosy prostitues? Uh, OK.

As for the cards in the hotel room, I think I got it. You go down and have the hotel guy at the front desk do the phone call for you. Still don't know if the girl on the card is the girl that shows up. (I doubt it.) Or the price for such service. I guess you negotiate with the front desk guy? Also this probably clears up the foriegner friendly debate.

I can say that Gangnam was crawling with hot chicks on Saturday night. After reading a few posts, I wonder if these girls were Freelancers? Man, that would be super cool if they were. Also say lots of really drunk chicks around 130am. 230am walking around, holding hands, holding each other up, etc. Looked like everyone was just having fun. The guys I was with were married and do not chase pussy, so I maintained being with the group. Which was a bummer because being in the love motel with no love sucked.

I am now excited about being in Korea!

C.

[QUOTE=Taloha]Newspaper article this morning stated the KNP will use Riot Police (there are at least 40,000 of them in Seoul) after the Chuseok Holiday (13-15 Sep) to crackdown and close down for good the Yongsan RLD and the "Hill" in Itaewon.[/QUOTE]The Tuesday after Chuseok, I walked through the Yongsan RLD and nothing was open. Nothing. I even saw some girls moving out, pulling their suitcases behind them. There were plainclothes policmen just walking back and forth through all the alleys.

Today I walked through the Yongsan RLD again at noon today and saw about six shops open on the main strip and four open on the strip closest to Shinyongsan station. I asked one of the girls whether the police were still patrolling. She said, "Yeah, but don't worry about it. " The girls working there don't seem to be too worried about it.

Hi everyone,

I am just back in Seoul for a few days, but now that I am catching up with the news, it seems I won't have any adventures this time...

So Anmas in Gangnam are no longer safe? Any hard evidence why we should stay away from them?

And how about Miari (though I never visisted that area)?

Joyofsex,

There is not much joy to be had in Korea anymore. At least not on a budget, or without a lot of risk. Ever since the Korean government gave into pressure from the American government in 2004, and pushed through anti-prostitution laws, things have been going downhill. For evidence of this, just look at the slow down of posts here. And even worse, is the photo forum. There haven't been any posts since June. Personally, I think you're better off spending some of your mongering funds to take a short trip to Thailand or the Philippines, where there are plenty of opportunities. Even if you do p4p in those locations, it is about a tenth of the cost of Korea. Sorry to say, but Korea is not a good players local anymore.

Happy Mongering!
HW

Hw,

Despite the laws during my last visits I had at least some fun with room salon takeouts, call- ins or in anmas (though certainly expensive), so I am more concerned about the recent developments. More than the money I care about being cought.

As my travel plans are not that flexible and this is for some time my last night in Asia I now regret not having taken the offer for takeout at the room salon on Monday. (for budget reasons, but hell, we only live once)

Hi Guys im in town for a poker tournament. Staying at the Sheraton Walker Hill. Does anyone have any info on activities in the surrounding areas? If so that would be great as this is my first time in Seoul. Cheers.

Suwon isn't in Seoul, but you can access it via the subway. As far as mongering goes it's worth the trip. Just find Suwon on the subway map and head on out. Getting to the RLD isn't all that hard either.

Get off the subway and go out the front station. You'll see a crosswalk that runs over the street. Go across the street away from the station and follow the main road off to the left. You'll pass a very noticable strip mall, some shops etc..

A couple blocks down you'll see the ladies at work. Most of the prime workers tend to work on the main alley. They'll turn foreigners down flat, but if you get into the back alleys you can find ladies willing to provide for non Koreans.

Don't be afraid to bargain and you'll be surprised what you'll have to spend. Last year I spent 90,000 won in one night for 3 full services. These are all quickie shops, but I've heard of people staying the night by renting out the bed to sleep in because they were to drunk to be bothered with going home.

Quality ranges on the ladies. I've found some very nice girls that I've paid roughly 40,000 for to some down right broken down nags that I paid 30,000 for a quickie.

I've seen the police patrolling the area, but from what I understand, this was last year by the way, the police are cracking down more on areas that are near US military facilities or directly in Seoul.

Enjoy!

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[QUOTE=Seoul Seeker]
On a side note my friend and I saw an extremely attractive looking girl the other day in Gangnam and we just had the instinct that she was a working girl. Shamelessly we approached her to find out what was going on. Apparently she works in an officetel setup with a number of other girls. We have to speak to her 'pimp' to make an arrangement but she said foreigners are welcome and the fee is between $80 and $120 for an hour. Full service but we have not yet found out what the difference in price range gets you. We'll most likely find out some afternoon next week. I'll post a review on how things turn out.[/QUOTE]

Soul Seeker - did you manage to get any service from the officetel girl you mentioned in your post a while ago?

I'm going to be in Seoul for a few nights from Tuesday and really would like to have my taste of the beautiful Korean girls again...

Since Youngsan seems closed, perhaps such contact could help; would you be able to share any number etc?

You can PM me if you prefer; you did not have private messages enabled...

Cheers,

CoB

Checked out Yongjugol just north of Seoul near Paju. Not really Seoul, but if you want to do some mongering nearby the pink light district is well busy and thriving there. Even saw some new buildings get put up. Paid 100,000 for 40 minutes (70,000 for 20 minutes). Girls are pretty hot, very surprising for someplace in the middle of the countryside.

Take the #30 bus north from Gupabal station if you want to take transit. The whole trip will take almost an hour, but it's worth it. Get off at Yeonpung-ri ( 연풍리 ) or Yeonpung market ( 영풍시장 ) . Or alternatively get a taxi, but this might cost a bit. Not hard to find once you get there.

I accidentally stumbled across a small red light district in Incheon this weekend. Unfortunately I didn't have the chance to try it out, but it looked pretty standard. I do believe that the smaller red light districts in the outskirts of Seoul are less victimized of the recent police raids that hit Yongsan.

Anyway, if you are in Incheon take the subway to the Incheon National University of Education. I don't remember the exit, but go towards the Gyesan Market (Gyesan Shijang). If you come from the right way you will see it right before the market entrance. If you arrive first at the market entrance, facing the entrance walk a few minutes to your left and it will appear on your right side.

Near my apartment here in Seoul there are a lot of small shops which open only at night. They tend to have names like "Amor, Love, Friends," etc. Very small and I can see booths inside (with curtains).

They usually keep the doors to the shops slightly open, and usually the inside lighting is red. I never see anyone going in or out; no music, etc. Very quiet overall. They are in clusters near where I live in Dongdaemun gu, but I have seen them in other parts of Seoul, too.

I assume they are some type of sex shop, maybe coffee shops (Da bang), or something like that. Anybody know?

Yes, I went in there with a friend back in July. They serve overly priced alcohol, and after paying for the drinks, there's a bed in the back where you could sleep with one of the girls. She wanted 100, 000 for ST, but I said no and walked out. She wasn't much of a looker (3/10).

[QUOTE=MikeSaw]Near my apartment here in Seoul there are a lot of small shops which open only at night. They tend to have names like "Amor, Love, Friends," etc. Very small and I can see booths inside (with curtains).

They usually keep the doors to the shops slightly open, and usually the inside lighting is red. I never see anyone going in or out; no music, etc. Very quiet overall. They are in clusters near where I live in Dongdaemun gu, but I have seen them in other parts of Seoul, too.

I assume they are some type of sex shop, maybe coffee shops (Da bang), or something like that. Anybody know?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MikeSaw]Near my apartment here in Seoul there are a lot of small shops which open only at night. They tend to have names like "Amor, Love, Friends," etc. Very small and I can see booths inside (with curtains).

I assume they are some type of sex shop, maybe coffee shops (Da bang), or something like that. Anybody know?[/QUOTE]

Since they are near your apartment, perhaps you can enter one of these shops and report your experience.

Couple of impressions from recent trip:

1. BBS. Is it my imagination or are most of the revolving barbers poles that used to illuminate the city switched off? But I did try one that was showing near Seoul station and it was business as usual, but as expected not great service or quality (70K).

2. Koreana Sporex. First time there and an absolutely outstanding experience. As previously reported you get a locker and led to the showering/hot tub/ sauna area where you can prepare for massage. When you are ready head out, dry off and put on shorts & robe. You will then be taken to massage area rooms. My massage girl was tall and stunning (9/10) and spoke good English. I lost track of time but at least 90 min total with a top quality profesional massage and felt very satisfied at the end. Price 100K and top quality service and surroundings from beginning to end.

3. The Hongdae bar and club area is packed with stunning girls and from our experience many interested in meeting foreigners. This may appeal to some of you.

4. Anyone been to Belle or Cool recently... is it business as usual?

I hate to deliver the bad news (again, just like my previous Jang Han Pyung report), but YJG has also joined the crackdown list.

I think it happened recently, since someone below reported that it was open.

Well, I headed there yesterday (Friday night) to see what was happening.
NO SHOPS WERE OPEN. ABSOLUTELY NONE. NO LIGHTS WERE ON AT ALL. The back alleys were all dark too.

This is just an FYI for those of you who were planning to tread over there.
You can't imagine how I felt after having wasted away 3-4 hours of my life traveling there and back, all for nothing...I'm so angry.

[QUOTE=Seoul Blade]I hate to deliver the bad news (again, just like my previous Jang Han Pyung report), but YJG has also joined the crackdown list.

I think it happened recently, since someone below reported that it was open.

Well, I headed there yesterday (Friday night) to see what was happening.
NO SHOPS WERE OPEN. ABSOLUTELY NONE. NO LIGHTS WERE ON AT ALL. The back alleys were all dark too.

This is just an FYI for those of you who were planning to tread over there.
You can't imagine how I felt after having wasted away 3-4 hours of my life traveling there and back, all for nothing...I'm so angry.[/QUOTE]

Bad news, even if I have never been there.

To add some better news to all the bad ones: Yesterday I was on a typical Friday holiday night out in Itaewon (no mongering in mind, as in Itaewon I am using freebee source). But I also passed the hill and surrounding area, and to my surprise all girlie shops have been in full operation as usual. Not at all a sign of a crackdown. There are anyhow not more then probably 10-15 shops left in the whole area providing this business and the whole hill is already a mix with girlie bars and regular bars (mongers are not alone and crowds of none mongering people will see you if you intend to negotiate - but nobody and who cares?).
I even spotted some (3-4) nice looking girls (some I know from dialogue and an occasional drink, even if I only once was really active there) probably worth a closer look and which would have been at least to my liking. But don’t let them scam you as they tend to overprice.
40-60 kW for BBJ and 100 kW (never more then 150KW!!) for FS should be a reasonable going rate. Don’t let you talk into too much drinks before, better negotiate the deed directly or after one drink (20 kW).

US/ Korean Joint army forces have been screening the area as they usual do every day to identify potential ‘off limits’ and ‘21 drinking age’ army community violators. But business as usual, they don’t care about the girlie bars (as long as no one of them is in).
So guys, not sure how long this will last, so maybe one of the last chances you may take.
Situation can change today already. Watch out if you see any of the armed riot busses (called ‘chicken cage’ locally) in Itaewon tonight. If they would be around (usually they never be) then the crackdown would go on.

Regards

Brain666

[quote=imready777]couple of impressions from recent trip:

1. bbs. is it my imagination or are most of the revolving barbers poles that used to illuminate the city switched off? but i did try one that was showing near seoul station and it was business as usual, but as expected not great service or quality (70k).

2. koreana sporex. first time there and an absolutely outstanding experience. as previously reported you get a locker and led to the showering/hot tub/ sauna area where you can prepare for massage. when you are ready head out, dry off and put on shorts & robe. you will then be taken to massage area rooms. my massage girl was tall and stunning (9/10) and spoke good english. i lost track of time but at least 90 min total with a top quality profesional massage and felt very satisfied at the end. price 100k and top quality service and surroundings from beginning to end.

3. the hongdae bar and club area is packed with stunning girls and from our experience many interested in meeting foreigners. this may appeal to some of you.

4. anyone been to belle or cool recently... is it business as usual?[/quote]
very good observations. mind if i reply to them one by one?

1. bbs-no, it is not your imagination, i have been noticing the same thing as well.

2. koreana sporex- i went there this afternoon. to give some directions, take subway line one to city hall and get out at exit three. walk a few blocks until you get to the koreana hotel. it is on the eighth floor of the hotel, so enter and find the elevators. when you get to the eighth floor, you will have to pay 18,000 won, this will allow you to enter the sauna and use the facilities there, the showers, spas, hot and cold baths, etc. what was funny was a guy working there in speedo asked me if i wanted a massage, and i said yes thinking he would take me somewhere with women, but he motioned over to the sports massage area and wanted to do it himself! i declined and wondered where the women were, but i didn't see any, anywhere. i then put on a robe and shorts and started to walk around and the bathroom attendant asked if i wanted a massage. thinking that he meant with the ajossi in speedos, i said no, but he clarified it would be a woman giving the massage. bingo! so i followed him through the curtains to another part of the eighth floor and he told me the massage would be 90,000 won for one hour. i agreed and soon a very hot masseuse came in. i have to say she gave me one of the best massages i have ever had in my life. but the downside was she didn't take off her clothes when she gave the hj, and it was quite mechanical. she allowed my hands to go up her skirt and touching was ok. i don't know if i would go back, expensive for 100k+ won i think, although the facilities are first class all the way and the girl was a solid nine.

3. been to hongdae and didn't see the same quality girls as you apparently did, but i will have to give it another look. same with itaewon, for a city of this size there just aren't that many smoking hot girls here. and too many horny guys all fighting for the same pussy it seems. imho of course.

4. haven't been to belle in almost a month and haven't been to cool in about two months or so. i don't think cool is worth 75,000 won, and i am tired of going to belle and getting nara everytime. i have no idea if they were affected by the crackdown, i hope someone will report on this.

[QUOTE=Ezinho] ......

3. Been to Hongdae and didn't see the same quality girls as you apparently did, but I will have to give it another look. Same with Itaewon, for a city of this size there just aren't that many smoking hot girls here. And too many horny guys all fighting for the same pussy it seems. IMHO of course.

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good observations as well Ezhino.

Regarding Itaewon, as i mentioned I am relying on 'freebees' there.

I share the opinion that the smoking hot 9's and 10's are rare there, but they are there. The question is: In my case I am not a 9 and 10 on the girls scale either, so without financial compensation the 9 and 10 isn't happen very often. And you can't offer regular girls money, you need to qualify with your assets (looks, humor etc.).

The 9's and 10's are hunted by almost all guys and rather selective and almost never choose a guy right on the spot. It may take some weeks until you have a chance to score.
It’s the usual game. The guys want the pussy and the girls want the dicks, but nobody of course would admit. You see some 1 night success, but usually it’s a mid term development in most cases. And your success is none predictable. Until your dick has physically entered the pussy, you can not be sure of anything. Still in the shower she can change her mind, think on her family suddenly etc. and who am I to do much pressure. Being gentle wins long term.

But also the opposite happens: an already ‘written off’ dream target becomes reality, sometimes even for me as a good analytic guy completely unexpected. The same I notice at others: I wonder which ‘strange guys’ some high class girls fall for and which sudden positive changes some almost aggressive rejecting dialogue turns, but also have seen guys feeling already on the success street after long DFK sessions that within 2 minutes a taxi is taken home to mam and dad without having secured the phone number.

Some guys really think that after 1 or 2 beers they can start pushing their tongue in girls mouth. You wonder if some put Korea equal to Thailand in the easiness getting girls. No sense check and no natural ability to adjust forward/ approach action against with the girls response.

So how do I as a none 9 and 10 guy occasionally score the smoking hot 9 and 10.
First of course I am a very nice guy, gentle, humorous and not pushing, able to wait. I am ready to talk to all kinds of girls, beautiful one’s, average ones and even some ugly ones I would never intend to fuck (and would definitely no do). Being a nice guy and making none binding appointments sometimes, those girls also tell their friends about the nice atmosphere they have with me (a guy who is not primarily interested only in pussy – ha ha) and suddenly they show up with a 9/10 best friend. Pre-qualified by their average friends ‘good guy’ and accepted being a none 9/10 in looks myself, I only need to qualify with my attitude, all competition is gone.

This works – it doesn’t happen that often (about once in 3 months?) but enough to be satisfied. More or less my talk to none prime girls delivers occasionally the prime girl I would never score on my own alone. Please be reminded: Due to their high demand the prime girls are often rather hesitating in partner selection as they are afraid to be burned too much from all the guys hunting their pussy. And of course I deliver the right attention to their bodies.

Unfortunately this only works for long term residents who are not under pressure to score in one day or weekend.

Regards

Brain666

Ok guys (and maybe girls? ), after 7 months of living in S. Korea, I have finally ventured to Seoul. I have read the board extensively and was pretty reluctant to go to Seoul because of all the racism I have read on this board against foreigners. However, my buddy was telling me about Hung Dae, the clubs there, and all the available girls. "Easy" he told me, "Like shooting fish in a barrel".

So, we go to Itaewon and Geckos bar, eat food and drink until 11pm; Lots of very pretty Korean girls there. My crew is 3 black guys, 2 white guys, and 2 white Canadian girls. From there we go to another bar and lose one white guy and one girl (lesbian). The guy is working on a threesome he found and later closes the deal in the Hotel Doro for 50 USD for the night. The girls were not working girls, just civilian.

The rest of us take a cab to Hung Dae and get refused entry into Tinpan 1 and 2 because they think we are GI’s. We end up in Club Harlem and have a very good time dancing and drinking until about 4am. One black guy hooks up with the remaining Canadian and they go to a love motel, after being refused entry into 4 different motels. I tell the remaining lets go to double barber poll, but no one is interested. So, we take a cab back to Itaewon because I want to go up hooker hill as I have never been there before.

Now I was looking forward to seeing all the Filipina, but I did not see one as we were going up the hill. The bars are open, and have people inside partying. All of a sudden, a Korean runs out the Mississippi club, grabs my arm, and tells me, "I suck your dick, you come in my mouth, come on, it will be good I promise". My buddies tell me to go for it, as they will wait for me.

We go into the club and go through some little Alice in Wonderland door into a little room with a mat, blankets, a red light and fan. The girl has many tattoos and really no boobs, but a pretty nice ass and tight unit with a pierced clit. I give her 100 USD, and we do BBBJ and missionary with condom. Pretty tame fucking except when I get ready to blow; my dick goes soft right before the climax. Never had that happen to me before, but I have been partying for about 8 hours drinking Jack Daniels, so OK. Girl says "you come already? " I say no, but I want to keep fucking. She says times up and I owe her a tip. On top of this, someone is knocking on the door, yelling something in Korean and my babyko from PI is texting me every 20 minutes. My buddies keep texting me to hurry up as they are waiting outside. I give the girl 40, 000 Won for tip and she asks if I want to continue fucking as I did not cum yet. I tell her hell yes I want keep fucking and she asks if I want more girls. I tell her I have no more money and she says credit card. So, for 200 more dollars, two more Korean girls show up in the room and get naked.

One is pretty tired looking as it is now 630 am, but the other is nice and young. So, basically I fuck all of them again in various positions until my buddies call me non stop telling me to finish up. By now it is 730 and I finish in the missionary with the tattoo girl. Went through 6 condoms, but still had a good time. Tattoo girl gives me her phone number and tells me call her on her off day. Was pretty good sex and by now I am exhausted.

I go outside and daylight hits me blindingly. My buddies are hanging out in another bar on the hill, and I can’t believe how many people are still partying at now 8 am. We head for the train station for the long trip home. I have zero money in my wallet; I am exhausted, but very sexually satisfied. Overall it was a pretty good night.

Happy mongering,

Carmex

P.S. Sorry for the long report but I feel happy to contribute after only reading for so long.

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Brain666 is spot on in what he says. Basically, don't try and understand a Korean girls psyche. Yes, they can change their mind in the shower. Or disappear into a taxi in 2min after extended DFK. Kind of made me smile at the memories

In Hongdae, I did not mean the girls were all 9 or 10. But realistically, how often do we score them? Plenty of cute girls there.

Ezinho wanted an update. Nara still working at Belle. Routine service. Yes her arm still tires very easily

Finally, it has been mentioned before but it would certainly be of great value if members of this forum arranged to meet up one night to discuss / exchange info. How could this be organized. Any ideas?

Hi all. I'll be staying near Seoul City Hall to visit some friends (saints!) for a few days. Are there any actions where I'll be putting up at?

Where you reckon I can go to check out the night scene for some hot local girls and also the parlours I can go to?

Hi all. Lost my posting thus am posting again.

I will be staying near Seoul City Hall for a few days to visit some friends (they are real saints!). Thus would appreciate if you can point me in the right direction to hook up with some hot local girls at the night spots and also highly recommended parlours. Anywhere nearby? If not some direction appreciated.

[QUOTE=Seoul Blade]I hate to deliver the bad news (again, just like my previous Jang Han Pyung report), but YJG has also joined the crackdown list.

I think it happened recently, since someone below reported that it was open.

Well, I headed there yesterday (Friday night) to see what was happening.
NO SHOPS WERE OPEN. ABSOLUTELY NONE. NO LIGHTS WERE ON AT ALL. The back alleys were all dark too.

This is just an FYI for those of you who were planning to tread over there.
You can't imagine how I felt after having wasted away 3-4 hours of my life traveling there and back, all for nothing...I'm so angry.[/QUOTE]That is bad news. I reported it and I visited during Chuseok. I guess that was right before the crackdown. Since it wasn't in Seoul, I assumed it was out of their jurisdiction.

[QUOTE=Imready777]

In Hongdae, I did not mean the girls were all 9 or 10. But realistically, how often do we score them? Plenty of cute girls there.[/QUOTE]
My mistake. You said "stunning" in you last post so that's what I assumed.
[QUOTE=Imready777]Ezinho wanted an update. Nara still working at Belle. Routine service. Yes her arm still tires very easily[/QUOTE]
Try getting her early in the afternoon when she just starts work, maybe as early as Noon or so. Her arm was well rested the last time I went in at that time.
[QUOTE=Imready777]Finally, it has been mentioned before but it would certainly be of great value if members of this forum arranged to meet up one night to discuss / exchange info. How could this be organized. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'd be game to meet up with others sometime. A good meetup place might be Hooters in Gangnam, members could share notes over beers and wings and there are many places around that area to hit up afterwards....unless the cops have shut them down, of course.:rolleyes:

Help!

In Seoul for a few days next weekend. Just wondering if anyone has any recommendations on where to go and get the full experience of some of the Korean ladies while im here? Im open to suggestions!

Any idea if the Miari RLD is still open?

The exchange rate in Korea is currently over 1400W to the U.S. dollars, I have never seen it this high in all my years here. For those of us who are paid in U.S dollars in Korea, this should help with some of those 150,000W to 200,000W places like Star Anma.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]The exchange rate in Korea is currently over 1400W to the U.S. dollars, I have never seen it this high in all my years here. For those of us who are paid in U.S dollars in Korea, this should help with some of those 150,000W to 200,000W places like Star Anma.[/QUOTE]

I have not been in Seoul since April of this year. I am flying there this weekend. Are the anmas in Kangnam open? I would appreciate any information about Anmas or sports massage places that are still open in kangnam.

Jimmy

Guys I think the crackdown is only in the Kangnam area. Superman is closed in Bang bang intersection. BUT the good news is Socho gu is crackdown free. I went to Nambo bus terminal during the long weekend and everything was as usual. Price is still 180,000 won (Cash or credit card). I asked around a few places and most were willing to accept westerners, if a Korean were to escort them... kinda sucks, but what can you do?? If you guys need a so called "escort" I'll be more than happy to tag along, but its gotta be sometime next month, seeing as I need money to move this month. Anyway if anybody wants to hang out, pm me.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Run Mann]The exchange rate in Korea is currently over 1400W to the U.S. dollars, I have never seen it this high in all my years here. For those of us who are paid in U.S dollars in Korea, this should help with some of those 150,000W to 200,000W places like Star Anma.[/QUOTE]

Nice exchange rate at 1400 for 1 US Dollar! To bad it was short lived! But who knows? It may get weaker again. I was here in 1997 - 1998 when the rates went from 900 per dollar up to a high of 2000 per dollar. That was very nice!

HW

I live about 15 minutes away and often include Mia ri in my evening/night walk. Recently I haven't seen much going on there. Out of the 50-75 or so shops (which were all open when I moved here over ten years ago), I have noticed activity in only one or two recently, though there may be more. You know, nowadays (unlike the past) they all keep their curtains and doors closed.

Also, only two or three pimp/ajummas hanging around, not the dozens I used to see there. But I have seen several south Asians guys walking around/waiting outside some of the shops, so who knows? At any rate, it is certainly not the honey hole it used to be.

Same is true for 588 (Chongyangni). It is also only about 20 minutes from my apartment so I walk/bike there a couple of times per week also. Two-three months ago it was hopping, but now it is down about 80-90%. A few couple of lookers there in the "A" row (but they don't service non Koreans) and the usual handful of old skanks behind the department store. They DO service foreigners for the most part if you are truly desperate.

Hopefully things will get back to normal after this most recent prostitution crackdown blows over.

Anybody have info on Dongducheon (last subway stop on line #1 north of Seoul-near the DMZ)? I know there is a large US army base there (Camp Carroll, I believe), so I assume there are lots of Filipinas and some Korean girls working there. Prices? Take out available? Glass front knock shops? Massage shops? In room massage available?

There's a huge crackdown in many places now and it’s affecting Donduchon too. The RLDs are basically closed, Massage and Barber shops are available but you will not find any young hot girls in these places. The last time I visited an Anma in Donduchon they had the door closed and only open it when they saw who we were (was with a Korean friend) but closed it after we entered. Most of the bars outside the military bases are now serviced by Filipinas. However, their MO has always been to get you to buy them drinks made of juice at $10. to $20.00 a pop hence the name juicy girls. You can negotiate to take these girls out after work but it will be expensive. Donduchon is not worth the trip just for mongering

Is there action still at the Cheonho RLD? This was recommended to me by Halcyon901.- I ended up going there four times this past summer. I went back to the US in late August, and since then I've been reading the posts here about the crackdowns with dismay. Is Cheonho RLD still around? I hope to go back when I return to Seoul next summer.

69

[QUOTE=MikeSaw]Anybody have info on Dongducheon (last subway stop on line #1 north of Seoul-near the DMZ)? I know there is a large US army base there (Camp Carroll, I believe), so I assume there are lots of Filipinas and some Korean girls working there. Prices? Take out available? Glass front knock shops? Massage shops? In room massage available?[/QUOTE]

MS,

The US military base in Dongducheon is Camp Casey. It has a GI bar district near the main gate (across the street and over the railroad tracks) which has many Filipinas working there. They are forced by the bars to push for the juicy drinks, and try to get as many as they can from the guys going there. As Run Mann mentioned, you will probably have to buy a lot of drinks, and then pay a bar fine of $200 to $300 if you want to take a girl to the room with you. It could be more than that, since I haven't been there for a long time.

There is also Camp Hovey on the back side of Casey. I think the name of the ville outside it's gate is Tokarie (not sure). I never tried it, but I always heard that it was more wild than Dongducheon. However, this is also the area that Fox news did their scandalous "GI's supporting human trafficing" report on about 5 years ago. IMHO that is what caused the fall of a great mongering destination that was called Korea.

HW

I live in Dongducheon, and it is true that the report severly crippled the mongering community. Several laws were inacted after the report and the outcries from the pentagon and several Washington Senators and lobbyists. To include the inactment of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] being illegal in Korea.

Does anyone know of a link to the original report? I have been trying to find it to no avail.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]The exchange rate in Korea is currently over 1400W to the U.S. dollars, I have never seen it this high in all my years here. For those of us who are paid in U.S dollars in Korea, this should help with some of those 150,000W to 200,000W places like Star Anma.[/QUOTE]You mean Star Anma in Sinchon?

Police raided the hill in Itaewon on Tuesday but were unable to find anything suspicious due to the numerous cctv's the bars have on the hill ! !

[QUOTE=Looking Inrok]You mean Star Anma in Sinchon?[/QUOTE]

I forgot that they had changed their name to Venus Anma. However, it is located near the Nambu Bus Terminal subway stop (Line #3) but they are quite expensive at 200,000.00W per visit.

I will be in Seoul from Tuesday onwards this week if any members want to hook-up. PM if interested. Thanks.

OAH

OAH -- sorry about the Sox. Next year.

[QUOTE=Intransit]OAH -- sorry about the Sox. Next year.[/QUOTE]

Intransit,

So close, yet so far away. They gave them a run for the money. Game 6 was sensational!

OAH

The reason why I have stayed out of mongering in Gangnam for over a month now. Does anyone have any first-hand information to add to this article:

[url]http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/10/117_33054.html[/url]

My colleague advised me that his good friend went for some fun at an anma over in busan recently, only to be called the next day by police since he used a credit card for the transaction. He was not fined but merely warned and told that his actions will be closely monitored.

Still, despite the numerous crackdowns, there are still a large number of venues that seem invulnerable to this, whether they are located in kangnam or kangbuk.

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]despite the numerous crackdowns, there are still a large number of venues that seem invulnerable to this, whether they are located in kangnam or kangbuk.[/QUOTE]I don't know whether they are invulnerable, but where I live (near Yeungdeungpo), many places are taking protection anyway.

They are taking the signs off the main street that say "Massage" in any language, but keeping their signs on the side streets so that they are less noticable. This makes the places harder to find, but maybe they'll last longer.

Also, I know I've written this before, but it bears repeating: some full service places call themselves "namja hyugashil" (Gentlemen's Leisure Room) "sports massage", or "stress clinic", which is something to watch for. (The one in front of Yongsan Station, for example, calls itself a "glamour clinic", but it's the same full service as an anmajang, but for W100, 000. You just need to make a reservation.)

Since the uniformed raids on the Hill last Tuesday didn't result in anything, the police have been sending out undercover police up and around the Hill at night.

Gentlemen,

I don't know if this will work for everyone, but what I did to solve the police problem was to phone a certain provider and have her meet me in a hotel. It was a provider I had used before. We rented a small motel for 30, 000 won and had ST. She asked me to come by the club, but I told her if she wanted to meet me it had to be somewhere else and she responded. She also brought her sister (who she said was her twin, but turned out was not).

My suggestion would be to get the number from a provider who you enjoy and lay low for a while until this police thing blows over. Many of us have too much to lose if we get caught in one of the establishments.

I had dinner in Yongsan and decided to stop by and have a look on my way back to my hotel. Nearly all the places on the "A" row were open and most of the ones on the "B" row too. Business was brisk, maybe as a result of crackdowns in other areas.

IMHO, 90% of the girls in the "B" rows are not doable. In fact, I bumped into another foreign punter and we walked around wondering if anybody actually does some of the really old ones. For a change, one of the girls on the "A" row offered, but insisted on a CBJ so I passed.

I ended up with the standard service including BBBJ and CFS for 60k on one of the "B" rows. She was a 30+ but still in relatively good shape and the service was better than average.

A nice quick fix to the end of an evening.

OAH

Every now and then, I try to check some of the more interesting things on the Adult FF site. However, it appears the Korean net police are cracking down on it now as well. When I try to open the site, a Korean notice with the police symbol pops up instead. It has links in it that lead you to the Korean Communications Standards Commission web site. The entire thing is in Korean, with no links for an English version of the site. I can only guess that the Koreans are once again trying to improve their image to the politicians around the world, like America's President Bush, that are pushing the anti-prostitution agenda. Hopefully they don't consider doing the block on here.

Stay out of trouble!

Happy Mongering (maybe not in Korea)!
HW

Sad to hear that stories about crackdown.

However Yesterday Saturday night, passed the hill (not on mongering mission) and saw the hill in normal operation. The providers may be more selective how they approach customers, but it doesn't affect none Asians. Better: the none Asians are way less suspicious to be an undercover agent.

Still the safest way is to score with 'freebees'. Plenty around, but you need to turn your charm out and score and your efforts can end in hit or miss with somehow bad to predict. I wrote about this earlier.

I was in several normal clubs in Itaewon yesterday and also in JJ's (Disco in Hyatt hotel). JJ's has more female then male guests around (60:40?). Mostly two girls join, but also some single. They are open minded at least to talk almost to everybody and get to know new people and if you have remained some general attitude and are not too pushy in the beginning you may score.

Again: it’s rather unpredictable and your approaching efforts of some hours can evaporate later and you may feel wasted time. But that’s life to be accepted. You may also score from time to time. Remember: Half the fun is the hunt.

Strategy in JJ's is to try to change locations as soon as females feels more comfortable due to the high drink prices. A few drinks invested in a girl (mostly its in 2 girls to serve) easy exceed the cost of a 1/2 h fuck at the hill easily with a none predictable outcome.
So far freebees. As we all know the freebee (when it finally happens) scored will be from a business case standpoint more expensive then the quick fuck in exchange of money, even if the deed itself is free.

Doing the hunt in the environment of JJ's (advantage there: better girl selection/ opportunities) is expensive, but down in Itaewon at the cheaper clubs will way lower the cost, but girls quality average is lower and you may have to discount your going Rate (lets say in JJ's 7-9 rate should be doable, but in Itaewon a 6 may need to be accepted to have success at all, as the 8-10's are hunted from all and are way more selective.).

Unfortunately with this crack environment it became more difficult for short term visitors to score. The freebee option is due to is success rate more something for residents and when you see which type of couples found each other there remains hope that chram and attitude brings you far more then just looks.

Happy hunting.
Didn’t read any report here yet from other freebee hunters, even if I see plenty around. Am I the only ISG’ler who hunts freebees in Seoul?

Happy hunting.

Regards

Brain666

I cannot stress this enough: NEVER USE YOUR CREDIT CARDS WHEN PAYING FOR SERVICES. Stop by an ATM and and get cash beforehand. I think the businesses prefer it, and it could save you 10,000 Won or so in some cases.

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]My colleague advised me that his good friend went for some fun at an anma over in busan recently, only to be called the next day by police since he used a credit card for the transaction. He was not fined but merely warned and told that his actions will be closely monitored.

Still, despite the numerous crackdowns, there are still a large number of venues that seem invulnerable to this, whether they are located in kangnam or kangbuk.[/QUOTE]

[i]The hill may be the safest place to monger during the crackdown, which according to the article below will be finish at the end of the month. [/i]
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South Korean police make no arrests in prostitution crackdown raid

SEOUL — South Korean police raided clubs on Itaewon’s Hooker Hill on Tuesday night as part of a nationwide crackdown on prostitution, but they found "nothing suspicious" and made no arrests, a Yongsan police spokesman said Wednesday.

The spokesman said closed-circuit televisions installed by bar owners on street corners throughout Hooker Hill, an area famed for its prostitution, made it difficult to catch sex offenders. "They can watch us, and all of our movements and steps in advance before we start patrolling the area," he said. Hooker Hill is near U.S. Army Garrison-Yongsan, and most of the clubs are off-limits to U.S. troops.

The South Korean media reported that two 46-year-old South Korean women were sentenced to eight months in prison on Tuesday, the first to be sentenced as part of the crackdown, which began in July and runs through the end of the month. One of the women owned an illegal massage parlor in Dongdaemun, outside the U.S. military’s Camp Red Cloud. She was fined 100 million won, approximately $80,800, for unlawful profits she earned through running the business and acting as a prostitute.

She earned about 20,000,000 won, or $16,000, each month and had five to six customers a day in the past nine months, according to South Korean media reports. The other woman, an employee, was sentenced to 120 hours of social work. Their sentences were suspended for three years. Court officials were unavailable for comment Wednesday.

Yes, they do prefer it. This is because they can avoid paying taxes if you pay in cash. It is often possible to negotiate a small discount if you pay in cash. But of course you need to ask!

[QUOTE=Looking Inrok]I cannot stress this enough: NEVER USE YOUR CREDIT CARDS WHEN PAYING FOR SERVICES. Stop by an ATM and and get cash beforehand. I think the businesses prefer it, and it could save you 10,000 Won or so in some cases.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Brain666]Still the safest way is to score with 'freebees'. Plenty around, but you need to turn your charm out and score and your efforts can end in hit or miss with somehow bad to predict.

As we all know the freebee (when it finally happens) scored will be from a business case standpoint more expensive then the quick fuck in exchange of money, even if the deed itself is free.

Didn’t read any report here yet from other freebee hunters, even if I see plenty around. Am I the only ISG’ler who hunts freebees in Seoul?

Brain666[/QUOTE]I go round and round with this question in my head about every two years or so. I recently went on a date with an average filippina last Saturday. We met on FH and after some txt'ing, agreed for a day in Seoul. First impression was she was skinny, very smart, (English professor with Masters in Education), not as good looking as her photos, and well travelled. This was my first real "date" for this calendar year.

We spent the day together, doing lunch, movies, out for drinks and dinner, and finishing up at the Hyatt for coffee and ice cream. I believe I could have closed the deal, but she was not hot enough for me to put any effort into it, and I had to catch the last train home at 10pm. Overall, it was nice to be out with someone intelligent, whom I could share conversation with and understood my stories and jokes. But, at the end of the day, I spent about 120 USD and did not get laid. Not that that is the end all, but a BBBJ is always a nice way to end the date, I think.

To sum it up, I suppose my point is, it is all in how you feel. The hunt is fun, but usually when I do score, I have to deal with the chick for the next few weeks and that is a huge pain in my ass. I had fun the last Saturday, but really overall, I would just rather pay my money, get BBBJ and CFS with a chick who knows what she is doing, and go home and watch football. To me, I think that is a really nice overall arrangement.

Carmex

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Are there massage parlors in Seoul which allow us to choose the masseurs before we make decision?

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]My colleague advised me that his good friend went for some fun at an anma over in busan recently, only to be called the next day by police since he used a credit card for the transaction. He was not fined but merely warned and told that his actions will be closely monitored.

Still, despite the numerous crackdowns, there are still a large number of venues that seem invulnerable to this, whether they are located in kangnam or kangbuk.[/QUOTE]The first time: Dismissed (No record/ no criminal case) Don't worry. The second time: John School (Still no record/ no criminal case) some want to get fined instead, but I don't think it's a good idea. The third time: A monetary penalty/fine (A record/ a criminal case)

If you get caught more than 3 times, it will be jail time/ probation.

Even if you don't use your credit card, if your name/cell phone number is/are on their notebooks / reservation books / computers, you will might be in trouble. So, don't use your real name / cell phone number.

[QUOTE=Seoul Blade]I hate to deliver the bad news (again, just like my previous Jang Han Pyung report), but YJG has also joined the crackdown list.

I think it happened recently, since someone below reported that it was open.

Well, I headed there yesterday (Friday night) to see what was happening.
NO SHOPS WERE OPEN. ABSOLUTELY NONE. NO LIGHTS WERE ON AT ALL. The back alleys were all dark too.

This is just an FYI for those of you who were planning to tread over there.
You can't imagine how I felt after having wasted away 3-4 hours of my life traveling there and back, all for nothing...I'm so angry.[/QUOTE]Damn, that sucks, and I was about to go there. You saved me a trip.

That said, it could come back to life after this crackdown is over (whenever that is).

previous year, an anma at kangnam (opp. riviera hotel), has 4 poles, now only 2 poles.

seems that raids are effective and mean business.

[QUOTE=Anduher]The first time: Dismissed (No record/ no criminal case) Don't worry. The second time: John School (Still no record/ no criminal case) some want to get fined instead, but I don't think it's a good idea. The third time: A monetary penalty/fine (A record/ a criminal case)

If you get caught more than 3 times, it will be jail time/ probation.[/QUOTE]

Where are you getting this information from?

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Where are you getting this information from?[/QUOTE]Actually, I heard it one of my Korean friends, and I am pretty sure that's a right info. But of course, everything is depends on a case. As I know, even if you think you might go to John school, the prosecutor might punish you with a fine instead or can be the other way.

In Yonsgan close to the Army Base gate 52 is Capitol Hotel. Enter the Lobby, waltk accros and look for the elevators, go down to the Gym. Exit right and pass the Desk on the righ side and keep going straight. Go inside the glass door and ask for Mrs Chang or a foun.

[QUOTE=Anduher]Actually, I heard it one of my Korean friends, and I am pretty sure that's a right info. But of course, everything is depends on a case. As I know, even if you think you might go to John school, the prosecutor might punish you with a fine instead or can be the other way.[/QUOTE]


Yeah! I thought it would be this type of source. There was a well-publicized case of a foreign professor who got caught in the initial crackdown some years ago was quickly sent packing, too bad he didn't get to go to John school. Also saw a recent story where a soldier who had been in country for only a week was fined a million won for patronizing a hooker/establishment.

You should at least verify your information before authoritatively posting it as the gospel.

Any of you other guys who've been to Cool happen to know what kind of lube they use there? You know if it's available in the States? I just remember it was great. Not too sticky, not watery.. just right.

[QUOTE=Anduher]The first time: Dismissed (No record/ no criminal case) Don't worry. The second time: John School (Still no record/ no criminal case) some want to get fined instead, but I don't think it's a good idea. The third time: A monetary penalty/fine (A record/ a criminal case)

If you get caught more than 3 times, it will be jail time/ probation.

Even if you don't use your credit card, if your name/cell phone number is/are on their notebooks / reservation books / computers, you will might be in trouble. So, don't use your real name / cell phone number.[/QUOTE]

This routine of penalties probably only applies to Koreans. Those of other national and ethnic origins should really be careful. Deportation and imprisonment have never been beyond the Korean government in cases of foreigners prosecuted for an offense (I specifically avoided saying "foreigners committing an offense," because there have been instances of wrongful prosecution in the past).

I've heard about the various red light district crackdowns in Seoul recently, but be advised that 588 (Chongyangni) is as strong as I've seen it in years (maybe all the girls from the closed districts going there?).

It's right on my way to Homeplus, so I walk through it once a week or so. Busiest I've seen it in months right now. I guess the local police didn't get the crackdown memo from the Seoul police chief, hehe (or maybe because they get freebies plus a cut of the profits?)!

Not as many girls there as there were when I came here in the 1990's, but quite a few stunners, nonetheless. Doesn't help me, however, cause I'm a foreigner. They only service Koreans there. But there are some 35-50 year old skanks on the back row who have tried to pull me in. Scary stuff, indeed, but I suppose it would do in a pinch if you were really desperate.

I did manage to get laid once or twice there on the A row a few years ago, but I was with a Korean friend then. On a more positive note, it is still possible to get laid by a somewhat younger and prettier girl at the other red light district near my apartment, Mia ri. Nothing like it used to be, but possible still if you are diligent and patient.

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The system keeps timing out, so I will make this brief.

After last nights experience, I thought I would finally post. Went to regular spot close to Imperial Palace. First time it has been closed. Probably due to worry of police crackdown. Didn't want to leave diappointed so followed advice here and looked around. Found Evian Massage in masive complex across street from IP. Front desk agema wanted 250, 000won, haggled to 200, 000 after cracking jokes and befriending the staff in Korean.

K girl was cute, petite (8), and would not allow me to speak Korean. She wanted to practice her English. Used that to my advantage to get have a GFE. She licked me head to toe, tossed my salad, and BBBJ reverse cowboy style. One problem. Only Korean size condoms. Couldn't even make it over the head, she had to call and order another one. BARELY covered the head again. Worried that I would not be able to complete the transaction, I ressured her it would be ok. Made sure my dick never left her pussy when we changed positions. Our 1hr time limit had expired (wasted chatting in the jacuziz previously), and the phone began ringing of the hook and the hostess began banging on the door. K girl pulled my dick out, and lo and behold the condom had fallen off (surprise surprise). She flipped out Korean style. I reached inside her and felt the rim of the condom inside. She refused to believe me that it was lodged inside. We argued for another 15 minutes, since she was convinced I had somehow slipped it off midstream. We tore the place apart, trying to proove that it was still inside her (I. E. Moved the bed, checked the floor, sheets, breaking objects in the process, etc.). The hostess met me at the door and chastized me for deceiving the innocent K girl. I tried to explain to the front desk agemas and other sexy hostess that the condom was still inside her, knowing full well that I was to be banned from this place. Fake smiles and all.

200, 000won is WAY too expensive anyways (unless 9-10). I need some new Venues, since Mia is losing its selection and quality, Yongsan RLD is closed, and Itaewon has police patrols (low end quality). Anyone willing to share some other inner city Seoul locations for Anma's (higher end), Event locations (masks 2 for 1 specials), or RLD's. I don't want to resort to Barber Shop Poles agemas. Yikes.

I was discussing the crack down with my Korean friends. They told me that the crackdown is not focused on the an-mas. The think that this is combination of the presidents religious zealotry and citizens anger of the drop in their apartment values. They think this is a temporary phenomena but warned me to avoid an-mas and the red light districts.

Our strategy (my Korean friends and I) will continue our hunting at night clubs (booking clubs). The women are in their 30's and 40's but still some hotties and their performance in the sack is superior to the young working girls. It is best to find a night club near where you work or live so you will not end up traveling far to meet the woman for follow up dates.

I keep reading about scoring freebies in clubs, but even in JJs I found it hard to get to know the more attractive girls - not even close enough to take them with me. So since I am only in Seoul for a week every two or three months I wonder if there is a good dating site (usable by western guys like me) to approach some girls and pre-arrange a dinner or something.

Any hints?

Don't knock the barber shop poles. I have found some nice stuff in there. You just have to be specific and firm. Tell Ahjuma you want young and tight. (you have to speak hangul for this) and also be firm on the price. No more than 80K won. If you are not happy, then ask for your money back and leave. I have not done this, but my buddy has when he was with me.

The hill is back in operation, full force as of Sat. Night. No filipinos though. All Korean providers. Prices are down. 60K FS from Ahjuma, 100K FS from young Korean. You do have to negotiate for this. I went in a club at the top of the hill on the right, across from Polly's Kettle. Just looking for a quick hit and run action. Saw a cutie, and negotiated with Mamasan. She started at 100K, and we ended up 60K. This was ST price. No bullshit about "buy me drinkee", etc. I was not in the mood for it. Short BJ, on with condom, and mish pumping until completion. In and out in about 15min. Now I feel good and ready to go out with friends and party.

About the condom thing and the girl freaking out, that might be an isolated incident. I think with some calm behavior and hangul you could have changed the outcome. Just MHO, but I have had the same thing happen to me, but I really didn't care about the chick and just left the condom inside her. She was pissed about it, but not that much. Just said, "thanks for leaving the condom inside me, you could have told me. " That was Thailand though so YMMV.

Happy hunting,

Carmex

Awesome, awesome, awesome!

It's time for me to head back to the motherland to see friends and family once more... and some partying on the side!

Expect lots of reviews coming late-Jan, early-Feb '09.

In the meantime, if any of you Seoulites would like to hang out, grab a beer, some samgyeopsal, and maybe go booking, massaging, or 588'ing, let me know!

Peace.

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]
Yongsan RLD is closed[/QUOTE]

Jack Rabbit:

Welcome to the forum.

Is the above statement from personal experience? I was just there week before last and it was open. (See my post) Have they been closed since then? Have you actually been there recently or just making an assumption based on recent crackdowns in the city?

Many of us depend on this forum for current information in order to plan our mongering adventures. I only post first hand information that has been personally verified by myself. I rely on other posts to be same.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=JoyofSex]I keep reading about scoring freebies in clubs, but even in JJs I found it hard to get to know the more attractive girls - not even close enough to take them with me. So since I am only in Seoul for a week every two or three months I wonder if there is a good dating site (usable by western guys like me) to approach some girls and pre-arrange a dinner or something.

Any hints?[/QUOTE]I'm in the same boat. I usually visit Seoul 2-3 times a year. Always stay at the Grand Hyatt - so JJ's is right there. It's difficult in there, esp if you are solo, as the girls are always in groups of 2,3, or more. And yeah I don't even try fof the stunners (and there are many there on Fri/Sat nights). I've gotten a few dates out of there by setting my sights alittle lower.

And also had much better luck when Im there with some of the Korean guys i work with. They take delight in trying to get girls to come over and talk to me!! Hey, whatever works.

I have also had previous (although isolated) success from Korean Cupid (mostly Korean), Hi5 (mix - I met an Indonesian girl studying in Seoul thru Hi5) & Friendster (almost all Filipinas)...I'll be pulling in next week...but this time bringing my own - a Thai friend.

Good luck & happy hunting

Sorry I had a typo in my report. The crack down is focused on an-mas and the red light districts.

[QUOTE=Waykook Saram]I was discussing the crack down with my Korean friends. They told me that the crackdown is not focused on the an-mas. The think that this is combination of the presidents religious zealotry and citizens anger of the drop in their apartment values. They think this is a temporary phenomena but warned me to avoid an-mas and the red light districts.

Our strategy (my Korean friends and I) will continue our hunting at night clubs (booking clubs). The women are in their 30's and 40's but still some hotties and their performance in the sack is superior to the young working girls. It is best to find a night club near where you work or live so you will not end up traveling far to meet the woman for follow up dates.[/QUOTE]

I have a question after patrolling this forum I cannot find the directions to that one club I once saw here. It was in Kangnam, one of those show bars as they call em. Is it stil open..I think the name was red soemthing. And as a Korean American with little korean skills do you think they will let me go in? Any answer would be appreictaed!!

[QUOTE=Waykook Saram]I was discussing the crack down with my Korean friends. They told me that the crackdown is not focused on the an-mas. The think that this is combination of the presidents religious zealotry and citizens anger of the drop in their apartment values. They think this is a temporary phenomena but warned me to avoid an-mas and the red light districts.

Our strategy (my Korean friends and I) will continue our hunting at night clubs (booking clubs). The women are in their 30's and 40's but still some hotties and their performance in the sack is superior to the young working girls. It is best to find a night club near where you work or live so you will not end up traveling far to meet the woman for follow up dates.[/QUOTE]

WS, I come somehow along with the freebee hunt, however I am not practiced in 'booking Clubs'.

How about sharing more about booking clubs. Your preference clubs, the strategy, how to find it in the neighborhood-how do I Identify etc. There wasn't much yet on this in the forum. We may need some basic lesson, 'beginner course'.

Greetings
Brain666

[QUOTE=Brain666]WS, I come somehow along with the freebee hunt, however I am not practiced in 'booking Clubs'.

How about sharing more about booking clubs. Your preference clubs, the strategy, how to find it in the neighborhood-how do I Identify etc. There wasn't much yet on this in the forum. We may need some basic lesson, 'beginner course'.

Greetings,

Brain666[/QUOTE]Night Clubs (booking) are plentyful in Seoul. The one I have been to the most is Heracles in Sincheon close to Gangnam. Not Sinchon close to Yonsei University, easy to confuse. You should have some conversational skills in Korean if you plan to meet girls at booking clubs, otherwise it will be very hard, sometimes they don't even let groups of foreigners in at all and they always check if I can speak Korean when I go to a booking club, I'm a white guy.

You should be at least 2-3 guys and in the club you can get either a table with drinks and snacks or even better a private room with karaoke, drinks and snacks. As long as you still have drinks the waiters will bring you girls, usually the girls want to look around as well so try to get to know her a little and get the numbers from all the girls you meet and call them later on. This is what I have done, some girls of course I never see again but I have met quite a few and went all the way. If you tip the waiters they will make extra effort to bring you the hot girls, it can be worth it.

Price is about 50. 000won and up per person if you order a table and of course a room would be more expensive but you would get more girls and can more easily get intimate with them already in the club. Some clubs have women in 30's and 40's but this one (Heracles) is mainly young university students. All girls I met was 19-23 years old. Only one of them could speak English, so Korean language is the key.

How to find Night Clubs? You will be hunted down by bouncers on the street as soon as you approach the area. There are also many Night Clubs in the Jongno-2ga area but I haven't been there much.

Le Lion is correct you are going to need to go in a group and you need language skills.

There are many clubs but an easy to find one is Mool, it just south of the river over the Hannam bridge.

You should go with some Korean friends, if you go with a group of non-korean friends and can convince them to let you in the club then you will get few if any bookings.

Spend the money and get a room. Women do not want to be seen sitting with a white man in the public area, it will hurt their ability to meet other men. Not fair but that is the way it is.

In the room you need to order some whiskey and side dishes. Tell you waiter what kind of women you like and if you do not want to meet a pro tell them not bring any working girls.... but if you want you can tell them to bring you working girls.

Sit in a position so that you can not been seen from the door. If the woman sees you first she may run. Once she sees speak immediately in Korean, they do not want the stress of an English test, they our out for fun. Once she sits down offer her a drink and introduce yourself. If after five minutes you like her ask her for her phone number. It is unlikely you will score on the first night. Most of the women walk around with their phones in their hands this so they can get the numbers of men they are interested in.

If you have a woman hanging around near the end of the evening invite her and her friends to go to a po-chang-ma-ja or a late night restaurant. She will be more inclined to go if she is with her friends and their is an matched number in your group and hers.

My experiences is on the clubs with women in their 30's and 40's. Almost all of them are married and looking for boyfriends. It usually takes 2 to 3 dates to score after meeting them at the club. I have a 3 date rule, no sex by the 3rd date I cut them.

There are some very hot good looking women despite their age and they tend to be excellent performers once you get them in bed and they relax. No with all the enforcement going it is best to build a good rotation of amateurs. It cost less than pros but you do have the burden of sending them text messages every day.

Happy Hunting

[QUOTE=Brain666]WS, I come somehow along with the freebee hunt, however I am not practiced in 'booking Clubs'.

How about sharing more about booking clubs. Your preference clubs, the strategy, how to find it in the neighborhood-how do I Identify etc. There wasn't much yet on this in the forum. We may need some basic lesson, 'beginner course'.

Greetings
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Someone mentioned Red light, it is now closed.

Drove through Yongsan yesterday, its open I'd say at least 80% of the A rowers were out for business, interestingly not many customers.

Went to a DDR(University hand job place) in Kangnam today and the owner told me that the crack down is pretty much finished. He said all shops in Kangnam were hit and that now the heat is over. Apparently the government is even giving the shops some time to make money before they issue the fine. Kinda find this ironic. But hey at least they're open. So Cool, Angel and Belle are fully operational. Good hunting

SM

Excellent Waykook Saram you covered what I missed! I also have the experience of girls running away as soon as they see me, this is most often because they're afraid to be forced to speak English with me and they're not comfortable with that. Most girls will relax once they hear I can speak Korean, but of course the occasional girl simply doesn't like foreign guys at all. You can ask the waiter to bring girls who are interested to meet a foreign guy, I did that and I got a girl who was all over me instantly But as Waykook said, go with Korean guys. Not other foreigners, actually if you are about 4-5 guys you should be the only foreigner in the group. If you are all foreigners you will probably get in if you can all speak decent Korean but it will definitely be hard to get bookings in there. The foreigner hunting freebees mostly hang around Itaewon and Hongdae clubs and girls usually won't expect to meet foreigners the Night Clubs (Naiteu in Korean).

But with that said, I think the booking club is a better way of meeting girls than the normal clubs like in Hongdae. This is because girls go there with the intention of meeting guys, that's the whole idea. In the clubs many girls are just out to dance and enjoy with friends and it's also easier to talk with many girls in one night at the booking club. So for foreigners with Korean friends and who can speak Korean I would definitely recommend it.

[QUOTE=Waykook Saram]Le Lion is correct you are going to need to go in a group and you need language skills.

There are many clubs but an easy to find one is Mool, it just south of the river over the Hannam bridge.

You should go with some Korean friends, if you go with a group of non-korean friends and can convince them to let you in the club then you will get few if any bookings.

Spend the money and get a room. Women do not want to be seen sitting with a white man in the public area, it will hurt their ability to meet other men. Not fair but that is the way it is.

In the room you need to order some whiskey and side dishes. Tell you waiter what kind of women you like and if you do not want to meet a pro tell them not bring any working girls.... but if you want you can tell them to bring you working girls.

Sit in a position so that you can not been seen from the door. If the woman sees you first she may run. Once she sees speak immediately in Korean, they do not want the stress of an English test, they our out for fun. Once she sits down offer her a drink and introduce yourself. If after five minutes you like her ask her for her phone number. It is unlikely you will score on the first night. Most of the women walk around with their phones in their hands this so they can get the numbers of men they are interested in.

If you have a woman hanging around near the end of the evening invite her and her friends to go to a po-chang-ma-ja or a late night restaurant. She will be more inclined to go if she is with her friends and their is an matched number in your group and hers.

My experiences is on the clubs with women in their 30's and 40's. Almost all of them are married and looking for boyfriends. It usually takes 2 to 3 dates to score after meeting them at the club. I have a 3 date rule, no sex by the 3rd date I cut them.

There are some very hot good looking women despite their age and they tend to be excellent performers once you get them in bed and they relax. No with all the enforcement going it is best to build a good rotation of amateurs. It cost less than pros but you do have the burden of sending them text messages every day.

Happy Hunting

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I've tried cheongnyangni RLD and some handjob places at gangnam but I'm thinking about taking it a step further and trying out an anma. Maybe around 120, 000. 180, 000won at gangnam. I'm a korean-american and my korean is above average so I don't have to worry about any foreigner related problems. I was just wondering if there are any clean places. Because one of my coworkers went to an anma (not sure which one but it was at gangnam) and he ended up with STD even with a condom on. Pretty scary. Oh and also, is titty fuckin allowed in anmas? I always wanted to try that out. Has anyone?

Hi, I will be in South Korea for few days at the end of November.

What kind of services are available near Gangnam Gu and Coex Area?

Is it possible to bring a girl to your hotel or any hotel?

The delivery coffee or tea girls are a possibility if you do not speak Korean?

If you ask the concierge about the sex industry, is he going to help you?

I do not speak Korean, but English/Chinese/ and bit of Japanese, what are my best options?

Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=Poohoopoo] one of my coworkers went to an anma (not sure which one but it was at gangnam) and he ended up with STD even with a condom on. Pretty scary. [/QUOTE]Which one (STD)? Only one I could think of would be HPV or Herpes. Also, many guys dont know, but HPV can survive/thrive in the mouth. So, guys, those of you who DATY and BBBJ, you are at risk for HPV, Herpes, and HIV from vaginal secretions. I know this belongs on a safe sex thread, but thought I would inform.

BTW, the 'new' correct term is STI, Sexually Transmitted Infection. Disease implies the reciever/host has no control over how the virus/infection was transmitted or received.

Hey,

I'm here for a few months and wanted to know if there are any anma's or coffee shops in the huksok dong area. It's just a quick trip across the bridge to Yongsan, but anything local that someone might know would be appreciated.

Thanks!

*sucks kimchi from between teeth and hoiks it on the ground* Ladies and gents (and ladyboys), after many long years of living on this queer, penis-shaped appendage at the end of Asia, I am pulling up stumps and moving my loins to greener pastures. I would like to say that it's been fun, but that would be lying, and that is bad. I have mongered far and wide, indeed I would like to do so farther and wider, but alas, I have had reason to stay here for the last five years. Sex has not been one. It never fails to amaze me the dedication that some have in continuing to post on this oft-forgotten corner of the ISG, which is somewhere in popularity between the forums on Albania and fisting. I'm sure there are some who are just looking for a fly-by-night experience when in town on business, others who (like myself at a point) were stuck teaching and had no other outlet, or even those who are oddly masochistic, but I still shake my head in disbelief that I did, and others continue to pay for sex in this country.

Why, you may ask? The girls here are hotter than an applicator full of firey jack stuck up your Jap's eye, cute, giggly and highly fuckable. Be that as it may, those self same ones are not in the P4P industry (at least not the part accessible to weygukin kind) and even if they are, you pay like a Scottish sailor desperate for a whiskey in Saudi Arabia for the privilege. What is more, when you do get the odd looker who will deign to dine on your dirty, diseased foreign semen, she is inevitably so stressed at the experience and wishes you to blow your muck and get out of there yesterday.

Then there are the declining options. I first moved to a mid-sized provincial town some years back and found myself with a string of interesting choices. Over time, rather than opening up, the Noh regime-sponsored fatwah against fun seemed to reduce these in number. Half a dozen rub-and-tugs with top service and good price suddenly reduced to half that number. The upscale places, well, 200 000 for what I described above ruins most of us if partaken in the frequency someone with a pulse enjoys, and the mid-range ones suddenly went all xenophobic, just not with the blase and casual nature of the past. They now tell you the girl's bojji is up on blocks, the massage table burnt down, or some other such nonsense.

I always marveled at the false economy of cheap sex vis-a-vis going abroad to get it, being as I am, from a remote corner of the world. Shelling out thousands on airfare, accommodation and sundries just to get a $20 shag and boast about it seemed absurd (the boasting part anyhow). That is, until I got here. When one considers that 2-3 anma visits covers the cost of a flight to SE Asia and another 2 or so will cover the rest of the hanky panky, you again begin to wonder, "why the fuck do we pay for it here?"

Sure there are new bits of the market popping up with the challenges of containment. But again, price and quality preclude me getting off my arse to try them again. After all, who wants some malnourished dullard of a Korean university chick looking bored as she tugs your plonker and demands a few ton for having done so? In short, this place is on a sharp decline and is only good for making bank and getting out to places where the girls are darker, friendlier and cheaper. Staying here and paying is the pits.

Hasta Luego.

PS,

Safe travels friend. I appreciate all the recommendations, warnings, and otherwise entertaining bits: especially on places off this rocky peninsula.

I'll monger on in your name for then next year or two until I finally break free myself and can indulge in monthly trips to Tijuana and quarterly "business trips" to the LOS, PI, and maybe even Indonesia.

Peace,

KORVET

PS,

I have enjoyed reading your posts here. While it is sad to see and experienced monger such as yourself leaving, I have to agree with your reasons for doing so. I have spent about 10 of the past 20 years coming (or should I say cumming?) and going from this place. As you stated, the mongering aspect of Korea has gone downhill steadily. This can be seen by the lack of reports in the various section under the Korea heading. Please keep us informed on possible better prospects for where you end up after leaving this sh*t hole.

Happy travels!
HW

Here's the scoop, after living in sucky Songtan for the last two years I've got this hair brained idea to move to Seoul as I'm a 40ish man with no significant ties to anywhere.

Yes, I've read the ISG and it's pretty sobering. However, it's hard for me to imagine any place being worse than Songtan. I don't like filipinas and that's just about all they got down here in this little sheethole.

I'm a decent looking mid 40's man with a pension, I prob would teach private English lessons part time, my Korean language skills are okay. I have a Korean friend that could probably hook me up with an apartment in Gangnam area.

I know a lot of you like me are jaded but I haven't explored Seoul hardly at all. Once again, just living down here in Songtan is unbelievably depressing so I'm looking to get out and have something to do with my retired ass. Yeah, I want to get some p4p but I also need to meet some decent people (coffee shops, possible intelligent conversation, better quality people other than the U.S. military/government crowd, some clean places unlike the crap here).

I understand the female pickin's are a lot slimmer than they used to be but is Seoul going to be remotely as bad as it is here or should I just pack my bags and move on? I know to RTFG and I have but I need a shout out from you guys as to whether I'm going to improve my quality of life. Appreciate you comments, no matter how brutal.

Thanks,

Haynese

I'm quite a frequent visitor of the Sexy Bars, I like the relaxing atmosphere and having a chat with a beautiful girl for a while. Usually I will just end a night out there with a beer before going home. But I have never managed to hook up with those girls, well actually I haven't really tried because I just assumed those places have a no dating customers policy. But I was wondering if anyone here has that kind of experience, and if so do you have any good strategy on that?

Fellas,

I will be coming to Seoul for the first time on Dec 5 and I will be staying for 3 nights. If there is anyone who is up for showing a newbie the best places in Seoul, please hit me up. I am from Tokyo and I would be willing to return the favor. I am staying at the Best Western (Hotel Kukdo.) Any advice is also welcome. AND YES, I am doing my own research through the old posts.

Just got home from Gangnam last night and visited a barber pole shop next to a burger king resturant. It is on the same road as the hospital is on, by Lotte world I think. Price was 80 at first but when I said I wanted to see the girl first, the guy raised the price to 110. I think he was offended. Nice place though, not your typical seedy kind of barber pole.

My girl was a young Korean girl, about 24 or so, body 7, face 7, attitude 8, bubbly and friendly. Went to the shower bed thing and she put some kind of facial mask on me and gave me a pretty good message. Then super hot water soak and a tooth brush. Was feeling really good at this point.

Unfortunetly, no BJ, just a quick up and down BB and on with the condom. I told her I didn't want Korean condom and brought my own. She did not speak english and I think she thought I wanted to go BB, which she freaked out about. I put on my own condom and then got into some pretty tame mish sex. Not a very tight vag, which I was dissapointed about. She also had this look of pain on her face the entire time, and that kind of turned me off. So, in the end I could not finish and just kind of gave up after a while. Still, she had a good attitude about it though. Put clothes on and waited for my buddy.

He on the other hand had a great young girl with a super tight vag, and great sex with all kinds of different positions. Actually fell asleep in each others arms. Told me he had a great time and would go back.

Well, today, he did have to go back as he had left his wallet there. He was freaking out about losing his wallet and was pretty worried about it. So, he just called me and told me that it was at the place, they found it and returned it to him without anything missing to his great relief. And since he was there he decided "what the hell? "

Again, 110 cost, but this time he told me the girl was even better, had the same shower/facial routine as I had gotten, except the girl put listerine in her mouth and gave him a BJ and balls massage. Then, more great fucking in different positions and in the end the girl asked for his phone number! I told him we should go to the casino because the stars were alingned for him this weekend.

I think this report is significant because it says that you can still get great service from a barber pole place, and sometimes the girls are hot. And because he got his wallet back, it shows that not all the places are out to rip you off. Just wish I had gotten the same service though. Oh well, next time.

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Good to hear that Yongsan RLD is back in operation. I had heard from various sources that due to the crackdown and redevelopment plans in that area, that it may be permanently closed. I will go take a gander to see if my regulars are still in business.

BTW my regular Anma near Imperial Palace is back in operation. Perhaps the recent crackdown IS finally over.

Hey Carmex,

How do you get to this place? Which is the closest subway station?

Thanks

The formerly very expensive room salons/"full" salons are now merely expensive. W450,000 = $300 is a heck of a lot more affordable than W450,000 = $500.

I went to a full salon in Kangnam and although it was "expensive", my company paid anyway, and the girls were hot as fuck. One benefit of the porno revolution is the availability of multiple-partner sex now. And the blowjobs have improved.

Why don't I just get on a plane to the Philippines or Thailand? Who has three days off?

Guys,

If anyone needs a wingman on the weekend of Dec 5th please PM me. I will be in Seoul for 3 days. I have a few local chicks lined up--who I met on the internet--but I don't want to depend on them for some action. 2 are school teachers and 1 is just to good to be true. I am an Asian American, decent looking, and have some money to spend. I'm not loaded but I am willing to sacrifice some yen if its a worthwhile experience.

[QUOTE=Spotted Dick]

Why don't I just get on a plane to the Philippines or Thailand? Who has three days off?[/QUOTE]
I have five days off for Christmas and am going to Manila and AC. Incheon-Manila on Asiana Airlines. Once you factor in the exchange rate, it is close to $500 USD RT. They also fly directly to Clark but the arrival time sucks. Check out their website, they still have tickets available. A couple room salon visits will cover a long weekend in The Philippines!
[QUOTE=Bar Pillar]Guys,

If anyone needs a wingman on the weekend of Dec 5th please PM me.[/QUOTE]
I tried. It says you can't receive PMs.

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Good to hear that Yongsan RLD is back in operation. I had heard from various sources that due to the crackdown and redevelopment plans in that area, that it may be permanently closed. I will go take a gander to see if my regulars are still in business.

BTW my regular Anma near Imperial Palace is back in operation. Perhaps the recent crackdown IS finally over.[/QUOTE]

At least from last weekend I can confirm that they are in operation.
I was in the cinema at the station and had some time to spend which I used for a walkthrough through the RLD.

Yes they are open.
At the main road girls continue to ignore foreigners, but I think their quality degraded.
In the side roads, where foreigners are highly appreciated, quality sucks completely. I wouldn't have found (I wasn't there for action) any I'd like, even with compromise. This may depend on the time (It was Sunday night), but 1 year ago the quality was not great but better.

regards

Brain666

Well I was in korea a month back. Stayed at the Westin Chosun. Considered the barber shops around the neighborhood but passed. Around 9. 30 on my last nite I decided to go for a run around the hotel. As I got out and was stretching had a woman walk up to me in a nice winter jacket and she said nice guy. Massagee? Well wasn't sure. She was around 45 kinda hot and slutty but I wasnt sure so began my run. Kept thinking about it on the way and as I got back 45 mins later there she was. So massagee it was. She was slim and like I said around 45. Around a 7/10 body. But then started the crappy service. Terrible BJ. Then she on top. Tried to go doggie but she wasnt comfortable. And kept hurrying up. So it told her to fuck off. I can take time. Even 30 mins at times. I think she got a morality attack and started giving me a decent handjob and BJ. After 15 mins she was tired so just jerked me off after complaining. Crap service for $80. Quite a waste in a land of hotties.

Hi,

I'm a newbie. I've been on other hobbying messageboards, but I just found this. It's my 3rd year in Korea, but my first in Gangnam.

First I'll ask for advice, and then, tit for tat, I'll give a couple of Itaewon reports.

I'm sure this info is somewhere in the 290-some pages on this thing, but if anyone has any advice on the Gangnam Station area, please let me know. Just as a rule, I don't LIKE to spend more than 100, 000, but I can go up to 160, 000. So, if anyone knows any places, please let me know. Looking for FS or BBBJ, none of this buy drinks or flirt or whatnot. Just down and dirty.

I will say in the past couple weeks I've had pretty good experiences at the Hill. My first 2 times there. I was sure that it was going to be bad. I had heard people getting ripped off, but my times were pretty good. The first time, the girl was pretty hot. HUGE natural chest (great on asians) and she invited me in. I said "No drinks, just sex. Any cops? How much? 150? Only have 100. No secret charge? Ok, let's go". We went back to her room behind the bar. Banged her silly. Hair pulling, plowing, fish hooking, and an AMAZINGLY wester body on an asian girl. Skinny with large-c's and a nice ass.

Second time was last Tuesday, nobody was there. I had 2 choices. The old korean, or the fat korean. Being a little drunk, chose the fat korean (still had boobies). When I got there, I realized she was even fatter than I thought. Oh well, it was too late. Also, she started at 100, 000, but rather than dealing, I thought she was giving me a bargain. OK! Doh! Anyway, should have paid at least 60-80, but oh well. Either way, it felt amazing. I'm not a chubby chaser, but a lot of my best mongering times have been with BBWs. It was like pounding as hard as I could into a pillow. I was bouncing off her ass. Anyway, she was SOOOO dirty. I mean all the kinds of things that you don't do with your ATF GFE, but with someone who can really take it. So, yeah, that was pretty fun too. I guess 2 good experiences at the hill, even when the second one was SERIOUS slim pickin's. Still better than the 70, 000 girl I tried my first (and only) time at Yong San. Passionless, clock watcher and un interesting. So, that's my stuff. I hope someone can help me out with some detailed Gangnam info. Would love to find something in my price range if it's here.

Can somebody point me out what is the best way to get Viagra or Cialis in Seoul, I use them frecuently, In my country it is legal OTC from any pharmacy, I need a place to get it (no time for fedex delivery).

Thanks in advaced

Any decently dressed guy (30-ish 40ish) up for a foray to a booking club tonight? Split expenses for a room at the club. If not, how about night of December 10th?

Anyone up for a booking club visit on Wednesday, let me know. Going with someone else is definitely better than going alone.

Met a freebie the Friday night in JW Marriot hotel. Nice Korean, bit older around late 30's early 40's with a smokin body and six pack. Said she was married for the last 22 years, but seperated from her husband for the last 2. 5 years as he was in the states. Told me she is going back to him in about 2 months. So, after some dinner, I asked her if I should get a room at the hotel and she responded with, 'I have apartment, you can sleep on the floor'. I said "sure" fully knowing I was going to nail her.

So, back to her place about a 15 minute cab ride and of course we end up in bed. All this bullshit about, "I'm a good girl", "I never do this", etc. Chick was really self conscience about her tits, or rather lack there of. More like a set of B- cups. Ass was really nice, but my God! Pussy hair was like 4 inches long or something. Told me she would not have sex unless I had condom, and low and behold, I produced four! She said, "wow you must be prepared".

Really nice tight unit, minus the braidable pussy hair, but not all that juicy or wet. No BJ or DATY, just sex mish and doggy. Finished up with a huge O on my part in the condom.

Spent the weekend with her, having sex and going out shopping and eating and having sex again. She did loosin up a little bit more as we did it, but still pretty reserved. Problem was she could not really take the full treatment when I got to pounding. Started complaining, its too big, it hurts, etc. Kind of a bummer for me as I could not really get into full fucking mode.

Left for home on Sunday at 2pm, and she saw me to the train station. Once I got home, there was 2 txt messages and an email waiting for me. Now on Monday, 3 phone calls already from her. Damn! Stage 4 klinger. What are you doing next weekend, was this one time thing, etc.

So back to the old debate, isn't it just better to go to AMP or Barber Pole and get serviced for 100K and fuck the way you want? Then you don't have to deal with all this bullshit.

Carmex

BTW: we went shopping in Osan and there were multiple hot korean chicks out outside of Osan AB in the ville. If these girls are working then Osan is worth checking out. Some other time when I am single that is.

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Guys,

I called this service on Saturday night. A guy answered the phone. His English is pretty good and he was quite helpful. Since I called last minute--around 11pm--all the escorts were busy so I settled for a massage girl. He sent over "Becky. " She is not the girl in the photo but fellas I think she was better. I am not a newbie and I know what a good looking Korean girl. She was about 5"6, tight body and great tits. She was easily a 9. BUT the service was only massage and a HJ. I begged and pleaded. I offered more $$$ but nothing worked. The next day I left for Tokyo.

I'll be in Seoul next week.

Want to know where I can find some Russian girls.

[QUOTE=Yjason]I'll be in Seoul next week.

Want to know where I can find some Russian girls.[/QUOTE]
Try the Rio Club in Itaewon. I just went there tonight with a co-worker and there were at least four to five blond russian chicks there. Not the best looking, but they're what you're looking for. It's a decent club with a dance floor and comfortable booths.

Ez-

Did you get a P4P vibe at Rio, Ez? Gotten mixed reports in the past. Not my usual taste but might consider something as a change of pace, if available....

Cheers,

KORVET

Had an exhausting week, so decided to treat myself to an Anma. Had a Korean friend take me to one near Ehwa University. 200, 00won for foreigners, 170, 000won Koreans. No negotiation.

K chick was 7 body/face combination, but personality, skill set, and experience was 9. Full shower rubdown followed by body lickdown in Jacuzzi and reverse BBBJ (she wanted me to lick her butthole and kiss her after! ). She gave me "extra service" on the bed with full oil body to body massage, followed by ice usage head to toe. She deep tongued my butthole with ice, and left it there to melt, coming back to claim it after. More reverse BBBJ, with my finger in her pussy and thumb in her ass. She wanted me to munch, but I just tongued around it. The whole ceiling was mirrors, so you could watch the whole experience which soon lead to her riding me, moaning with sex talk in Korean. Missionary, followed by doggy, back to riding, back to missionary (no BBBJ cum in mouth finish though) both us of looking up in the mirror. She cleaned me in the shower, toweled me, and sent me for my blind massage (1 hour 25 minutes! ). Young blind GIRL came in for massage, very sweet and cute (extra 45min).

First time explaining in detail, but felt this unique experience was worth the voyeurism. (Maybe one day I will share past others.)

[QUOTE=Korvet]Ez-

Did you get a P4P vibe at Rio, Ez? Gotten mixed reports in the past. Not my usual taste but might consider something as a change of pace, if available....

Cheers,

KORVET[/QUOTE]
Funny you should ask because I wanted to talk to one of the girls and see what the deal was, but they were all busy sitting with Korean guys! These guys were buying them drinks and trying to hold conversations in their broken English; I was surprised because on the outside of the club I think it says "Foreigners Bar" or something like that, but my buddy and I were the only foreign men in the place.

P4P vibe? Well, the women certainly looked trashy and for sale, but it seemed like they probably make decent money just from sitting with Korean men and drinking with them. Anyway, if you go, report back on what you think.

[QUOTE=Carmex]Met a freebie the Friday night in JW Marriot hotel. Nice Korean, bit older around late 30's early 40's with a smokin body and six pack. ................[/QUOTE]

usual story, Carmex, you pay WG to leave you alone, not to join you!

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]....... and sent me for my blind massage (1 hour 25 minutes! ). Young blind GIRL came in for massage, very sweet and cute (extra 45min).

First time explaining in detail, but felt this unique experience was worth the voyeurism. (Maybe one day I will share past others.)[/QUOTE]

Can anyone put some light on the blind massage?
Just wondering whether skills are better due to extra sensivitivy on fingertips?
or ?

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Had an exhausting week, so decided to treat myself to an Anma. Had a Korean friend take me to one near Ehwa University. 200, 00won for foreigners, 170, 000won Koreans. No negotiation.

K chick was 7 body/face combination, but personality, skill set, and experience was 9. Full shower rubdown followed by body lickdown in Jacuzzi and reverse BBBJ (she wanted me to lick her butthole and kiss her after! ). She gave me "extra service" on the bed with full oil body to body massage, followed by ice usage head to toe. She deep tongued my butthole with ice, and left it there to melt, coming back to claim it after. More reverse BBBJ, with my finger in her pussy and thumb in her ass. She wanted me to munch, but I just tongued around it. The whole ceiling was mirrors, so you could watch the whole experience which soon lead to her riding me, moaning with sex talk in Korean. Missionary, followed by doggy, back to riding, back to missionary (no BBBJ cum in mouth finish though) both us of looking up in the mirror. She cleaned me in the shower, toweled me, and sent me for my blind massage (1 hour 25 minutes! ). Young blind GIRL came in for massage, very sweet and cute (extra 45min).

First time explaining in detail, but felt this unique experience was worth the voyeurism. (Maybe one day I will share past others.)[/QUOTE]Where exactly is this place?

I would love to check it out.

Here's quick report from Miari. I was there about a week ago (Dec 6), and after having read the last few dozens of posts here, I was quite surprised to find the place to be exactly as it was a year ago, only with much less police around. As usual, I was soon approached by some not very pretty girl who told me the current price (70,000 KRW, also like last year) and then took me into a brothel. It didn't seem to bother her at all that I'm not Korean (I'm German, btw). From the five girls I was offered, two were absolutely gorgeous, the other three at least acceptable by my standards, taking into account that I'm actually not much into Korean girls.

The service was also very good. The girl was very friendly, smiled a lot and really tried hard to do a good job. She was talented, too, with the right technique and the patience that is needed to make the customer relax and really enjoy the act. I left the place completely satisfied. I just wish that Korean girls would shave. ;)

[QUOTE=Bionicman]usual story, Carmex, you pay WG to leave you alone, not to join you![/QUOTE]Omg I am almost done with these freebie chicks. #1 calls about 3 times a day now. Met her in Seoul last weekend and fucked all weekend, while going out and eating, listening to jazz, etc. Today was the, "are you mad at me or something, how come you no call me anymore" bullshit. My God! I DO have a job and am busy. (thought you were married BTW? ) Anyway, after reading some other reports, I surely wish I would just stick to the An Mas and barber poles.

#2 was even worse. Set up by a colleague, cute little Korean girl, went out with two other guys and thier girlfriends and my date. We end up drinking and eating and order a bottle of Jack Daniels, which goes extremely fast. So, I order another. By now the bill is 190K won, and everyone is pretty drunk and having fun. Except my girl who passes out cold at the table! Unrevivable. Neat. Fun. So, we literally have to carry this girl out of the bar.

Cab driver gives me a hard time, says no drunk girls in his cab, doesn't want to clean any throw up. Same thing next cab, and it is freakin freezing outside. People are staring on the street, and I am having to hold this girl upright as she cannot stand on her own. Shirt slips up and her boobs are hanging out on the street, but I can only hold her up and she is starting to get heavy.

Get the girl home and on her bed where she begins to puke all over herself, her bed, my shoes, pants, and her hair drops into puke bowl one of the girls put under her face. Yuuukkk! Not since college have I had to deal with this shit.

Now it is getting clear the other couples want to leave and go fuck, and leave me with this mess. Since I am medical, they say she is in the best hands. Man, I set myself up on the couch, take her pulse and check her breathing for about an hour and then pass out. Wake up around 5am and she has gotten up, cleaned herself up, cleaned up the bed, and obviously taken a shower. Now she wants me to get into bed with her! I tell her my back is killing me after sleeping on a couch about 4 feet long with my legs hanging over the end. So, I say I am leaving. She is exteremly appologetic, keeps saying sorry over and over and hugging me.

Bad luck? Or should I just stick to what I know is good sex without commitment? Forgot to mention, when the bill came, no one had any won, so I footed the bill at 220K won. Should have just gone to An Ma.

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I have now visited Itaewon 3 times and the glass house RLDS in Yong-san twice and Oh Pal Pal once. I have to say that all my good experiences have come from Itaewon.

When I went to the RLDs in Yongsan and Oh Pal Pal, sure I only paid 70, 000, but I felt like I got what I paid for. Only a few girls were interested and when we DID go in, it was 1-2 positions, "you come now" and very mechanical.

On the other hand, each time in Itaewon was great. 100, 000 (currently $74 USD with the exchange rate) and I was never rushed, always got BBBJ and CFS in many positions including hair pulling, spanking and since I have a small smoking fetish, all of them smoked while I pounded them doggie.

I will say that of the 3, one was an 8, one was a 6 and one was a 2. But in terms of skill and attitude, all were 8-10. So, I've yet to see the problem with Itaewon, even for us westerners.

I have only gone on weekdays. I don't know what this says about the pickings. It's usually slim pickings for Itaewon, but maybe the girls are friendlier or more likely for a discount because they don't have many customers. Maybe it would be the same on a Friday night. Mo-lah.

If anyone wants to monger together, I'll be visiting this coming week. I'm a Korean-native, now living in the States, and speak Korean fluently. PM me if you're interested.

The one P4P experience I have yet to do in Seoul is the room salon thing - I've avoided it mostly because all my friends live in the US now, and it's hard to do this solo. In addition, I've found that the RLDs and anmas provide such good value that it seems hard to justify the high cost of room salons...but I'm still curious, so that would be one option...

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Can anyone put some light on the blind massage?
Just wondering whether skills are better due to extra sensivitivy on fingertips?
or ?[/QUOTE]Something to do with Korean law means that only blind people can do actual massages or something like that. People wanted the law to be changed quiet recently and there was uproar.

[QUOTE=Vyper]Here's quick report from Miari. I was there about a week ago (Dec 6), and after having read the last few dozens of posts here, I was quite surprised to find the place to be exactly as it was a year ago, only with much less police around. As usual, I was soon approached by some not very pretty girl who told me the current price (70,000 KRW, also like last year) and then took me into a brothel. It didn't seem to bother her at all that I'm not Korean (I'm German, btw). From the five girls I was offered, two were absolutely gorgeous, the other three at least acceptable by my standards, taking into account that I'm actually not much into Korean girls.

The service was also very good. The girl was very friendly, smiled a lot and really tried hard to do a good job. She was talented, too, with the right technique and the patience that is needed to make the customer relax and really enjoy the act. I left the place completely satisfied. I just wish that Korean girls would shave. ;)[/QUOTE]Thanks for this Vyper. I can also attest that Miari is up and running. When I went around the time of the Kangnam crackdown back in September, everything was still rosey. However, mamasans were being a bit more cautious. A lot of the windows were completely blacked out instead of partially. You couldn't tell there was anyone in there until the mamasan knocked on it. The amount of empty shops is staggering, one could only imagine what this place was like in full swing.

Hello all and Happy Holidays to you,

Just a quick report on this weekend activities. Was all over this weekend, Songtan, Pyongteck, Osan AB, and iteawon. So, first off, Songtan was dead, dead, dead. Tried to barfine ANYONE out of those bars and it was just not happening. Man, even tried a chubby filipina in one bar and she said she did not barfine. Same story in Pyongteck, no one would barfine. Not even the super drunk filipina (WTF?). I began wondering if I lost my touch hehe.

Iteawon was a different story. JJ's had a private party going on, but you could get in for 50K won. Man, so many uber hot chicks were going in but my buddy was not up for the 50 large, so we went to Geckos, Helios, etc. Reggae bar has a very nice looking filipina behind the bar, but once she started in with the same old bullshit, I was out of there.

Had a SW ask if I wanted ST for 100K won and at this point I was like, "no problem". Funny part of the story is we went to the same room I had used before with the sisters a while back. She had rented the room for the night and had a tight little body and good tits. She was about 5' tall and I am guessing about mid 20's. No bullshit involved, just in and out in about 40 minutes. She did urge me to hurry a little bit, but I did not care and just did what I wanted position wise. Overall not bad and shot a good sized load in condom doggy style. Gave her 80USD and 10K won. She wanted more, but eh, that was all she got.

After this met up with my buddy who was working on a freebie inside Geckos. Military chick staying at the Dragon. They agreed to seal the deal and they were off, leaving me alone. I went to the Starbucks on the main street by Hooker Hill. While there I met two good looking Korean girls who said "Hi" and sat next to me. Mostly talked to one girl while the other was on her cell phone.

Long story short, after about an hour of conversation, the girl turns to me and whispers, "you want to sex with me?" I could not believe it. Girl was pretty bold. I told her OK, and off we went to find a motel. She wanted expensive motel (90$), but all were full. After searching for 5 different motels, we finally get in a taxi and the driver took us to one which cost 35K won, but still in iteawon. Did the deed, but being so close to the last encounter, I could not finish. I think this bothered her very much. She sort of got all melancholy and wanted to leave at 330am. I told her to wait until the morning and we could go again, but she wanted to go home. Ehh, win some you lose some. She did not give me her phone number so I now think she was pissed about it.

Woke up at 8am, showered and went back to same Starbucks for morning coffee. So, guys, Iteawon is looking better and better right now. One SW and one freebie. On second thought, the fact that I don't have to call this girl again is a plus. Hmmm, maybe a change is in the air?

[QUOTE=Carmex]

Had a SW ask if I wanted ST for 100K won and at this point I was like, "no problem". [/QUOTE]
What do you mean a "SW"? Do you mean a girl that works on the Hill? I was under the impression that there are no streetwalkers in Seoul. Where in Itaewon did you find this SW?

A little more info would be appreciated.

Interesting encounter on Sunday afternoon with a very large Korean woman with breast as huge as cantaloupes.

She’s an independent that goes by the name of Brenda but I call her “Chubby Luv”

We met at JJ’s (Hyatt Hotel) by chance on Saturday and chatted for a while over a few beers but she had another appointment so had to book for Sunday afternoon.

Very pretty face, nice personality and huge chubby body with very large soft breast. There was nothing robotic about her was a total GFE.

She offered what I thought was a fair price based on a basic 90-minute session for KRW 200,000 this included a great shower from head to toe and then she towel dried me off. Then she asked me to wait in bed while she cleaned herself up.

Started with a full body massage that was one of the best massages I have ever received. She had very strong hands (she mentioned she works also as a server at a sushi bar so she has to carry a lot hence the strong hands) anyway very relaxing.

As she is in to GFE I was able to eat at Y, which I enjoyed for a good 30 minutes and with her guidance, and moaning was able to get her off. Note: No finger insertion and must be clean shaven (doesn’t like razor stubble touching her lips).

Afterwards she gave nice head but she only performs if you wear a jimmy but she does like tea bagging and licking your balls.

For the main event, I went for several positions from cowboy, to doggy and missionary but what I wanted was to give her a pearl necklace because of her large breast. She agreed I could titty fuck her without jimmy provided I didn’t put it into her snatch. I readily agreed, took the jimmy off and at the right moment shot my load all over her face (pics to follow). After washing up did some heavy GFE petting - well worth the 90 minutes.

Perhaps not everyone likes a big gal but compared to a boring robotic session with a thin girl with no tits this fit the bill and have already schedule a another session for extra time.

Note: she offered me KRW 200,000 for 90 minutes; KRW 300,000 for 120 minutes and KRW 500,000 for 180 minutes. NO overnight stays unless given 48 hours notice which cost an even KRW 1,000,000 with the Euro exchange rate – quite the bargain and worth the price. Definitely recommend.

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Interesting encounter on Sunday afternoon with a very large Korean woman with breast as huge as cantaloupes. She’s an independent that goes by the name of Brenda but I call her “Chubby Luv”

We met at JJ’s (Hyatt Hotel) by chance on Saturday and chatted for a while over a few beers but she had another appointment so had to book for Sunday afternoon.

Very pretty face, nice personality and huge chubby body with very large soft breast. There was nothing robotic about her was a total GFE.

She offered what I thought was a fair price based on a basic 90-minute session for KRW 200,000 this included a great shower from head to toe and then she towel dried me off. Then she asked me to wait in bed while she cleaned herself up.

Started with a full body massage that was one of the best massages I have ever received. She had very strong hands (she mentioned she works also as a server at a sushi bar so she has to carry a lot hence the strong hands) anyway very relaxing.

As she is in to GFE I was able to eat at Y, which I enjoyed for a good 30 minutes and with her guidance, and moaning was able to get her off. Note: No finger insertion and must be clean shaven (doesn’t like razor stubble touching her lips).

Afterwards she gave nice head but she only performs if you wear a jimmy but she does like tea bagging and licking your balls.

For the main event, I went for several positions from cowboy, to doggy and missionary but what I wanted was to give her a pearl necklace because of her large breast. She agreed I could titty fuck her without jimmy provided I didn’t put it into her snatch. I readily agreed, took the jimmy off and at the right moment shot my load all over her face (pics to follow).

After washing up did some heavy GFE petting - well worth the 90 minutes. Perhaps not everyone likes a big gal but compared to a boring robotic session with a thin girl with no tits this fit the bill and have already schedule a another session for extra time.

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The street walker was opposite the Geckos bar on the corner facing the hill. Not hooker hill, but one street down. She was waiting in a corner of a store, and as I made eye contact walking by, she came up quickly behind me. As I stopped for a red light to cross, she approached me with the line, "you want short time"? "Sex?"
Sure, I said, how much?
"100K won".
"How much for the room?"
"I have room."
"OK, 100K total? We go then"
"Hey buddy can you wait for me? This wont take long"
"How long"
"About 30 minutes"
"OK man, keep your cell close."
"See you in about an hour"
"Have fun"

Good time, great condom sex, zero GFE, no shower before sex, only clean up after.

On my way to meet buddy and, well review last report.

Freebie was great but in the mirror I looked fat next to her 50Kg body. Could not finish and tried her ass, which she was down for. After popping the head in for about 20 seconds, she told me to stop. Then she said no way, hurts too muchee. Pretty bad english and lots of Korean language. Maybe that was what happened. LOL Kinda wish I had her number now as I would like to try again.

Answer: yes there are SW in Iteawon, just not in the usual places.

Interesting encounter on Sunday afternoon with a very large Korean woman with breast as huge as cantaloupes. She’s an independent that goes by the name of Brenda but I call her “Chubby Luv”

We met at JJ’s (Hyatt Hotel) by chance on Saturday and chatted for a while over a few beers but she had another appointment so had to book for Sunday afternoon.
Very pretty face, nice personality and huge chubby body with very large soft breast. There was nothing robotic about her was a total GFE.

She offered what I thought was a fair price based on a basic 90-minute session for KRW 200,000 this included a great shower from head to toe and then she towel dried me off. Then she asked me to wait in bed while she cleaned herself up.

Started with a full body massage that was one of the best massages I have ever received. She had very strong hands (she mentioned she works also as a server at a sushi bar so she has to carry a lot hence the strong hands) anyway very relaxing.
As she is in to GFE I was able to eat at Y, which I enjoyed for a good 30 minutes and with her guidance, and moaning was able to get her off. Note: No finger insertion and must be clean shaven (doesn’t like razor stubble touching her lips).

Afterwards she gave nice head but she only performs if you wear a jimmy but she does like tea bagging and licking your balls.

For the main event, I went for several positions from cowboy, to doggy and missionary but what I wanted was to give her a pearl necklace because of her large breast. She agreed I could titty fuck her without jimmy provided I didn’t put it into her snatch. I readily agreed, took the jimmy off and at the right moment shot my load all over her face (pics to follow).

After washing up did some heavy GFE petting - well worth the 90 minutes. Perhaps not everyone likes a big gal but compared to a boring robotic session with a thin girl with no tits this fit the bill and have already schedule a another session for extra time.

Note: she offered me KRW 200,000 for 90 minutes; KRW 300,000 for 120 minutes and KRW 500,000 for 180 minutes. NO overnight stays unless given 48 hours notice which cost an even KRW 1,000,000 with the Euro exchange rate – quite the bargain and worth the price. Definitely recommend.

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[QUOTE=Carmex]The street walker was opposite the Geckos bar on the corner facing the hill. Not hooker hill, but one street down. She was waiting in a corner of a store, and as I made eye contact walking by, she came up quickly behind me. As I stopped for a red light to cross, she approached me with the line, "you want short time"? "Sex?"

Sure, I said, how much?
"100K won".
"How much for the room?"
"I have room."
"OK, 100K total? We go then"
"Hey buddy can you wait for me? This wont take long"
"How long"
"About 30 minutes"
"OK man, keep your cell close."
"See you in about an hour"
"Have fun"

Good time, great condom sex, zero GFE, no shower before sex, only clean up after.

On my way to meet buddy and, well review last report.

Freebie was great but in the mirror I looked fat next to her 50Kg body. Could not finish and tried her ass, which she was down for. After popping the head in for about 20 seconds, she told me to stop. Then she said no way, hurts too muchee. Pretty bad english and lots of Korean language. Maybe that was what happened. LOL Kinda wish I had her number now as I would like to try again.

Answer: yes there are SW in Iteawon, just not in the usual places. [/QUOTE]Last year I was offered st for $20 the girl was standing on the corner opposite hamilton hotel on the other side going up to hookers hill

All the other side bars were offering sex inside for 100k won

I did my deed inside one of these bars

Any change with these bars now?

First off let me introduce myself. I am a korean american currently living in the US, I am fluent in english and korean and this fall (fall 2009) I will be moving to korea as my work has permitted me to work at a branch in Seoul.

I did my "research" on this forum and figured it was time for me to give back and share my experiences. If anyone has any questions feel free to PM me anytime.

I returned from 2 weeks in korea last week and I had a variety of great experiences. As a single korean american my experiences might have been/will be slightly different from non-koreans but I will share as frankly as I can anyways.

Massage Parlors:

I visited 2 "massage only" parlors while in seoul. The first one was in gangnam, an area known as dogok-dog. The area is pretty upscale with luxury apartments and streets littered with bmws and mercedes so I expected some good looking girls. I was wrong. The parlor was in the basement of a business area off the main street running through dae-chi and dogok, in between eunma and woosung apartments (if you are not familiar with areas and streets I can also help with that, I've made many trips to seoul and know the gangnam area well). Paid the door fee 70k (exchange rate is great right now btw) and was escorted into a curtained area with a heated massage bed and foot wash basin. Girl came in, about a 5 or 6, slightly chubby but friendly and if it wasnt 3 am after a long night of clubbing I would have left. She thoroughly washed my feet, gave me a so so massage, had a basin full of steaming hot towels after, and then had me turn over and gave me a HJ, good effort but nothing sensual or worth repeating honestly. Allowed me to touch anywhere but no below waist under her panties. Lesson learned: don't expect good quality in "better neighborhoods"

The second massage parlor is directly across the street from the coex city air terminal (samseong-dong) it is called VIP massage and is in the basement of an office building, there are barber pole type signs on the corner, pretty easy to find if you literally cross the street from the air terminal. Paid 70k entry fee and was led by mamasan to another curtained off massage table with foot wash basin. This time the girl that came in was MUCH better looking than the above location. She was 19, from the south (spoke with an accent), had the most perfect full and round A cups, as full an A can be, and wore a short skirt. I instantly decided to return here a few more times and did. She gave a decent massage and hot towel routine, washed my feet thoroughly, gave me a straight razor shave, and then asked me to flip. She was very shy at first but once she started she was very shy/sensual and let me lift her her top/bra and see her amazing breasts. Face was also at least a 8/9. Slim bodied and an amazingly tight ass, she was young, naive, and I wished she would do FS but these places don't offer it. She slowly worked me to completion and I was just so relaxed and left completely happy after leaving a 20k tip which she was very happy about. I frequented this location and saw 2-3 different girls (a bit older but service is A+) and was happy each time. Highly recommend.

I will add onto this post when I have more time, next time about my experiences at FS/barber pole establishments, anmas, dirty noraebangs (karaoke parlors), rld cheongyangyi, and more!

Keep the posts coming gentlemen!

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Just had my first visit to seoul this past couple days. We stayed in a motel in the nice Gangnam area. So late one night after clubbing, probably around 4am, we hopped in a taxi, gave the international hand gesture for what we wanted. He drove us across the river, we ended up at this RLD area. Now to me, this was the Ghetto. Heres the problem, we wanted to ensure we were in safe distance from any military activity since well. We want to avoid being caught up in some stuff since we werent sure how close we were to the off limits areas. Ok, so anyways, we ended up getting really nervous becuase we werent quite sure where we were at. So next taxi we seen, we hopped in. So my question is, relativley, in seoul, what is the safest RLD away from military, that we can still get service at. Help is appreciated.

[QUOTE=Rhandw 69]. So my question is, relativley, in seoul, what is the safest RLD away from military, that we can still get service at. Help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Five post since you joined in 2004 all asking for help and telling us how you want to avoid being caught by the military. Let’s hope your next post is an actual field report minus questions. You should talk to your fellow military brothers, they can tell you where to go but as far as RLDs, Miari would probably be the safest because of its proximity to the military base. Just about all these places are off limits to the military since patronizing a prostitute is now a crime so take your pick but I have never seen a military patrol in any RLD in all my years here. You should be more aware of the KNP who can stop you and turn you over to the military and they do have a presence in the RLDs.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Five post since you joined in 2004 all asking for help and telling us how you want to avoid being caught by the military. .....[/QUOTE]

probably this was the first chance he has to post after in 2004 he has been caught by the military..and wants to avoid that to happen again!:)

Ok, I'm not sure if I'm being bashed or what, but I'll lend my few cents here.

1. I usually post on USAsexguid forum. I just moved to korea a couple months ago, so I wouldn't have a reason to post on here.

2. I try to keep my hobbies private as most of you do as well, so I rely on this board, not my fellow military brothers.

3. I've never been caught, nor do I want to, I'm just asking questions trying to be safe and keep things going.

If it is a problem for me to ask these questions, than I will not apologize for them, but just say that you have to start somewheres.

I don't mean to burn bridges or whatever, but I'm kinda surprised at your response.

Anyways, happy huntings

All the RLD's I've seen in Korea have been sort of ghetto-ish. Perhaps the more experienced guys on the forum have seen a nice one, but I haven't yet.

Since you are relatively unfamiliar with Seoul, you actually might want to stick to someplace like Itaewon (different from the Yongsan RLD, which is located by Yongsan Station). Several reasons for this:

1. Local cops: As far as getting busted goes, the biggest threat is from the local cops doing one of their periodic "crackdowns, " which happens every couple of years when some politician gets a bug up his ass, someone misses a bribe payment, or someone highlights the existence of Korean RLD's in the media. In the Itaewon RLD, nearly all the shops have CCTV cameras so the girls can watch for potential clients, but they also use them to watch for the cops (I think there's a previous post about this). If the mamasans see the cops coming, they can just lock the door or shuttle a client into a private back room until the coast is clear. BTW, I don't ever remember seeing any of the CCTV's hooked up to VCRs, but to be honest I haven't always thought to look.

By the way, most of the RLD's I've seen in Korea are located right next to a police substation that you almost have to walk by (usually with a sign in Hangul saying you have to be a certain age to walk down that particular alley). It's Korea's way of keeping the glass house businesses regulated by confining them to certain areas out of the public eye. In Itaewon's case, the police station is located a block or more away, if that makes you feel any better.

2. "Courtesy patrols": CP's are not military police.- they're just soldiers from the nearby Yongsan base. They have no arrest authority, and unless they recognize you they can't even know or prove you're in the military. If you bump into them, just tell them to take a hike.

If you're worried about someone you know spotting you starting your walk up the hill, there are also a couple of back alleys entrances (by the mosque, and the stairs by Sortino's) you can use to keep from approaching from the main drag.

3. Ease: The girls in Itaewon are probably used to dealing with foreigners more than any other RLD, so if you're new to Korea and aren't functional in Korean, Itaewon may be your best bet for being easiest to getting to/from, and negotiating or chatting with the girls. It could suck being way out at Yangjugol or Cheonho and getting scammed or running into some other potential problem, like finding out that none of the girls want to take a foreigner.

THE DOWN SIDE: Itaewon RLD probably has the least attractive girls out of all the RLDs, but over the years I have bumped into a couple of stunners there. They never seem to stick around for long, though.

Overall, Itaewon isn't bad. For foreigners who are relatively new to Korea, I'd say it's the safest and the easiest, just not many hotties. Also, plenty of decent restaurants and bars (both regular ones and the "juicy" type) to prowl around after you finish the deed. Probably more fun than Fayettenam!

I'm not really one for message boards except these Mongering ones, because that's the info I need. But one of the main reasons I don't really like them is that there's always some kind of attitude flying around depending on the questions you ask. It's just a personality trait of people who spend a lot of time on line and like to be a little more rude when they don't have to say something straight to someone's face (I think a power thing).

2 choices: You can either care, or accept it as part of the life on a message board. I try to go with number 2, but have trouble not responding rudely when someone gives me attitude.

I find it strange like you that people care so much about your posts. BUT in your case, I think you did get your question answered in the meantime, so I would just keep doing what you're doing, weed through the attitude and keep reading and contributing. That's MY 2 cents (not to get anyone's panties in a bunch or anything).

[QUOTE=Rhandw 69]Ok, I'm not sure if I'm being bashed or what, but I'll lend my few cents here.

1. I usually post on USAsexguid forum. I just moved to korea a couple months ago, so I wouldn't have a reason to post on here.

2. I try to keep my hobbies private as most of you do as well, so I rely on this board, not my fellow military brothers.

3. I've never been caught, nor do I want to, I'm just asking questions trying to be safe and keep things going.

If it is a problem for me to ask these questions, than I will not apologize for them, but just say that you have to start somewheres.

I don't mean to burn bridges or whatever, but I'm kinda surprised at your response.

Anyways, happy huntings[/QUOTE]

JDG720 & Sfnil, Thanks for your help. Yeah I have been in a few places here in korea where not knowing Korean was a bit of a killer, but live and learn.

JDG720, I think most places are better than Fayettenam, LOL, althought i do miss a couple of my spots near Mickeys.

Sfnil, I like your option #2,

On a different note, last night i managed to find a waaaay out of the way place here in Gunsan City. A local Taxi driver ive kinda befriended hooked me up. Very disrceet very away from local traffic. I'll post more after my second visit this weekend.

Happy Huntings

Went to Belle shortly before Christmas and it is still going strong.

For those who can't be bothered to RTFF it's at Baeng Baeng Sagori in Gangnam halfway between Gangnam station and yangjae station. If you are coming from Gangnam take a left after the prudential building and its on the right about 200 meters down.

Went in at about 3am on Sunday morning, ajossi was very friendly and led me to a semi private room. Cost was 65, 000. First you shower yourself in a communal shower area then go back to the room and press a bell and the girl comes.

My girl was called Eun-ji. She was 24yo very thin, small breasts. 7/8 face. First she gave me a short (terrible) massage and then down to business. She licked up and down my legs/butt cheeks (no real a/r though) flipped me over BBBJ for a few mins then finish with a handjob. She kept her panties on so no pussy play, but kissing on the mouth was fine. She's was a non-smoker which was a pleasant surprise.

Had a chat after and it seems they get a lot of foreigners in there, usually during the day.

Overall a good experience- for 65, 000 it's not a bad deal especially if you're earning USD.

Cheers and happy hunting.

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I took a stroll thru the 588 red light district close to Cheongnyangni station today since I had other business in the area. Business as usual, with maybe half of the windows open. Usually when I walk there, as being a foreigner, the girls pay no attention to me at all. But today several of them open the door and asked me to step inside, so I guess business is tough these days. One ajumma approached me and tried to drag me in to some place and tried to convince me with very generous discounts. I have never seen such desperation over there before, but I declined this time since I didn't have time nor money to spare. But if someone else wanna try it at 588 it seems like it's getting easier for foreigners to get some over there now.

Hey all,
I'm planning on a return to Seoul within the coming months, and I promise informative and juicy posts as I previously provided you guys.
I had a few questions...
What's up with Cool these days? What are the prices and how are the girls? When I left last year, the rate was 65,000W and the girls were hot (and a few were eager to meet outside for off the books fun).
Also, has anyone been to S Anma recently? I'm sure the prices for foreigners are still high at roughly 200-220,000W depending on services. But, the place was quality, and the girl I had there was fucking smoking hot. Speaking of which, if you've been there, did you have Mina? I don't care if her tits were synthetic, they were PERFECT.
Thanks for the info, and you can depend on me for solid reports in the future.

Hi All,

Am back for some days in Seoul and went to the Zest, just bcs it is around the corner, close to Gangnam Station, Exit 2. [url]http://www.zesty. Co. Kr/index.php[/url]

No Sex, no BJ in there, I have chosen a nurse uniform and five minutes later a very pretty girl, 23yo, came in and greeted me.

To cut a not so long story short, she sat next to me, put my hand on her legs in nylons, I could touch them, after a short while she asked me to lay down, she undressed me completely, played with my little one, used hands and her feet, some lube on it, more footjob, I asked her to open her dress which she did and I saw a fantastic body. I was allowed to touch her everywhere, except pussy, I finally shot my load in her hands. No rush, shower afterwards and she was surprised that I did not want to stay for another round. I was just hungry and did not find it so exciting. Nice experience, nice girl, but next time I need FS!

Can anybody recommend me a good Anma (yes, I know RTFF, but I cannot find a concrete address on one which provides for BBBJ and more than the massage joints)?

Tomorrow I will try Miari again if I do not find an Anma.

Have fun,

Schaf

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I am passing through Seoul on business. I don't know the area very well and it is very cold outside. Decided to see if I could make some calls and get a massage in my hotel.

Opened up JoongAng Daily Newspaper and found a bunch of numbers on the second to last page (or around there). I called the first place and although the paper advertised 100,000 Wan, the lady over the phone told me FS would be 250,000. I decided to call another.

I called one called Catch Up Massage. The man who answered the phone spoke perfect English with very little accent. He told me he had a 20 year old, very pretty, and FS would be 220,000. Still a lot, but I just arrived from overseas and I was not going out for it.

As he said, 20 minutes later she showed up. Very pretty (7-8), very large natural breasts, and about 20 years old. I was getting prepared for a shake down, asking for more money for FS, but she never mentioned it. She took a shower and came out naked.

OK massage. Amazing BJ BBBJ. One of the best. Great FS. CIM.

Hey it was expensive, but worth it.

Hi All,

After having a bit of a problem with finding a correct and clear address for a good Anma in the forum, I have found in another forum a good direction for one with good services reported. So finally I left my hotel with a smiling face and went with my map to the address and found it easily. But it was shutdown!

Well, I had the imagine of a nice, cute young girl licking my ass in mind that I was nearly crying. Last time I was in Seoul in August 08 I had only found this place where it gave only a CBJ and rimming with condom over her tongue. So I was so much looking forward, arghhhh.

OK, little jonny desperately needed to be treated so I explored the area around Seolleung Metro Station on my own, I had the sign for Anma in mind and was looking around. Found one, looked nice, so I went in: No foreigners serviced.

Ok, same street I found another one, which looked from the outside like one of these love-hotels, but it had a clear sign for Anma. Well, I thought more than been thrown out cannot happen and in I went.

Greeted by a young guy who was so obviously gay that I was not sure where I ended up, anyways, I asked how much. His answer: "twenty"

Wow, I had different thoughts, one was "Am I the lucky 1 millionst customer and get the service for nearly free? " or "Maybe it is a love-hotel and I am just renting a room for an hour? " or "Did he just offer 20 whatever for my ass? ". He must have seen that I have strange thoughts, so he used his calculator and punched a number in: 200 000. "twenty" he repeated with a smile. Well, just a little language problem and my thoughts changed to good mood!

I changed shoes and he has led me into a small room and asked me to wait, couple of minutes later he came in again and picked me up, led me to another floor and into a room with a superb girl in it!

With a smile I was greeted by Yun-Jin, tall, short black hair, lovely body wrapped in a mini-skirt and a transparent shirt and a face to die for.

He left and I was alone with the beauty. Her english consisted of a couple of words only, but it was a funny start over a cigarette. Then she started to undress me, from socks to shirt to everything until I was naked. She undressed herself with two moves and I had another smile on my face, only A cups, but a slim body with a lovely skin.

Then the procedure started, we went into the bathroom which was equipped with a jacuzzi, toilet, shower and a plastic massage table.

She started washing me with a sponge and a lot of shower gel from head to toe and when she took special care of cleaning my ass I was looking forward.

She then pointed me towards the massage table and asked me to lay down on my belly and immediately she poured some kind of oil over my body and hers and then she came over me. Her body rubbing against mine, tits around my ass, in my face, pussy sliding over my legs and my toe inside her, she turned and twisted, touched my little jonny (who was not so little anymore) and stroked through my ass. Then she began licking, kissing, biting me from head to toe, sucking my toes and every part of my body until she grabbed below my wrist, jonny and balls in her hand, lifted my ass a bit and started treating my ass with her tongue, jesus! That was what I wanted, just better, because she was moving around in such a sexy way with all her body, hands and tongue that I was not sure where she is treating me and how. Outstanding and I was already close to shooting my load. But even that she felt and was careful to give me my breaks.

After a while she turned me around and started the same procedure with my front part and finally gave me a wonderful and deep BBBJ, again always stopping at the right moment, kissing and stroking other parts of my body or tongue kissing me and so on.

In the meantime the jacuzzi was full with water and she guided me into it.

In the water she continued rubbing her body over mine and also with the BBBJ, I was sliding with my jonny through her ass and over her pussy that for a moment I thought I will end up with BBFS, but she took care.

Then we left the jacuzzi, she dryed me and on the bed. Continuation of the BBBJ and in 69 I could lick her hairy pussy. Nearly without me noticing she slipped a condom over jonny and started riding me. We changed positions several times, we tongue kissed, she licked my nipples and I hers and finally I shot my load in the condom. No rush after this, I could stay in her and we continued kissing until I dismounted from her. I was sitting on the bed with a huge smile on my face and she opened her fridge and started drinking cold green tea as it would be the most normal thing to do after sex. Whereas I thought that it is strange after all this service to sit there with a condom over my jonny without her taking care of this as well. I mean this girl was undressing me, washing me, licking my ass and my toes, giving me a BBBJ, drying me, kissing me and then I have to take care of the condom?

No way, wrong thought, just after I decided to take care myself, she came over, took the condom off and took jonny in her mouth again, an ice cold mouth! This was a fantastic end, to get jonny cleaned with a cold mouth! WOW!

Another shower, another drying by her and after exactly one hour I left the room. The only downside is that I was expecting a blind massage afterwards, but this was not on the menu. Instead the guy guided me out and wished me a good day. I am happy now! For the rest, here are the directions:

Metro Station Seolleung, Line two, take exit 10 and walk straight until the next corner, opposite side you should see the KTF building, in front of you a seven monkeys coffee on your side of the street. Here you turn left and the first street again to the left. After 100 meters on the right side you will find the Anma, called "Call". Enter and have fun! I will be back!

Take care,

Schaf PS: Sorry that it is such a long report, but I still have all the details in mind and wrote more than I wanted.

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Juice Guy

According to my calculation you spent about $165 USD. For what you got and delivery to your hotel room included, I would call that a bargain. I would do it in a second, again and again.

I've been in korea a year and have been living down south, well out of seoul, so I'm not very familiar with the city.

I have a situation at the moment and I'm hoping someone here will be able to give me the inside story as to what goes on in these "wine bars" in Apgujeong. Basically, a girl I've known for the year I've been here has started working part time in one of these places and is slow to give any info on the bar. Not even the name. Of course, this sounds really dodgy and shady to me and I've since finished with her. But I'm curious as to what goes on in these bars and what shes capable of doing. She comes off real innocent as most of them do and says that nothing sleazy goes on. Shes a model (motorshow etc) and says her job is to introduce other models whenever the owner needs them and that they just sit and talk to the mostly male customers. I know that she lives with fairly strict parents and is rarely out past 2 am.

She only works there once or twice a week at most but how can she be making any money working once or twice a week? Which brings doubts to my mind of course. The owner of the bar also owns a room salon. Which further fuels the fire of doubt. Anyway, I'm hoping one of you guys here can give me some info. On these "wine bars".

I appreciate it.

Great report Schaf29 and you did include one of the key elements below.
[QUOTE=Schaf29]Hi All,

Metro Station Seolleung, Line two, take exit 10 and walk straight until the next corner, opposite side you should see the KTF building, in front of you a seven monkeys coffee on your side of the street. Here you turn left and the first street again to the left. After 100 meters on the right side you will find the Anma, called "Call". Enter and have fun! I will be back!
Take care,
Schaf PS: Sorry that it is such a long report, but I still have all the details in mind and wrote more than I wanted.

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[QUOTE=Schaf29]Metro Station Seolleung, Line two, take exit 10 and walk straight until the next corner, opposite side you should see the KTF building, in front of you a seven monkeys coffee on your side of the street. Here you turn left and the first street again to the left. After 100 meters on the right side you will find the Anma, called "Call". Enter and have fun! I will be back![/QUOTE]Hi Schaf29,

Great report,thanks - makes one feel like going to have a look for himself.

I'm European, travelling to Seoul from time to time. Do you think they also service caucasians ? or is this strictly "asians only"?

Thanks,

F

[QUOTE=Fredje1961]Hi Schaf29,

Great report,thanks - makes one feel like going to have a look for himself.

I'm European, travelling to Seoul from time to time. Do you think they also service caucasians ? or is this strictly "asians only"?

Thanks,

F[/QUOTE]I am caucasian European myself.

I've had a few trips to Seoul and have yet to put my feet in the waters. Mostly too busy with work. Though Schaf29's report does peak my interest. I am staying at the Renaissance Marriott and as I understand from RTFF I am close to several spots, including Schaf29's new spot. I have not seen any recent activity on the forum for Apple or Queen or any of the other spots around the Hotel. Have they dried up or just "everyone knows them, why post"?

Anyway back on topic, I found Bobos massage on-line and was wondering if they where legit. Prices are a little high but then again you can see what you are getting. Or should I just jump in.

BTW I also noticed a double pole across the street called "The best of the best". Looks a little shady but then again don't they all. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Thegoods]

Had a chat after and it seems they get a lot of foreigners in there, usually during the day.

[/QUOTE]
Following up on Thegoods report I went to Belle today around 12:30 pm or so after staying away for the last few months. I asked and apparently they open at Noon. I was excited to get a different girl from the last time I went there but I got Nara again. She gave a very nice BBBJ with nice suction. I still have a bunch of the flyers from Belle so they gave me 5,000 won off. For 60,000 won it's a pretty good deal for this city, and with the exchange rate that's only about $43 USD or so now.

Had an interesting chat with Nara afterward. I never really talked to her before becuase my Korean was pretty nonexistent but I've learned a little since then and her English is better as well. A couple points:

1. I asked about the police raids on Belle and she didn't know what I was talking about. She said the police came only once last year, in July. She asked if I read about it on the internet and I said yes. She said those were just rumors and that everything is fine. So either someone was full of shit regarding the police raids on Belle or she doesn't know what she is talking about. Which brings me to point number two...

2. Ummm, is this girl mentally challenged or something? Seriously, if you talk to her for a little bit, she just seems retarded. She's a very nice girl and all but something about her isn't quite right.

I wanted to ask her about coming to my place sometime after work. We started talking about sex and she told me she hasn't had sex in over three years! So, I didn't even bother asking about it. Shame that body is going to waste.

On another note, I checked out Miari last Friday night at about 10:00 pm. I had to meet someone at the Holiday Inn Seongbuk, so since I was in the area I decided to check it out. You get out at Girium exit 10 and it's right outside, just pass though the "car wash flaps", you can't miss them.

It was so cold out that all the women were bundled up. They were sitting in these little plastic booths, it's hard to explain. Anyways, I didn't really see anything good, but I only checked out a couple of alleyways before I decided to head back because of the freezing temperature.

Are the women in the booths working, or are they the mamasans? They looked too old to be working girls but I guess you never know in this country!

[QUOTE=Schaf29]Hi All,


Greeted by a young guy who was so obviously gay that I was not sure where I ended up, anyways, I asked how much. His answer: "twenty"

Wow, I had different thoughts, one was "Am I the lucky 1 millionst customer and get the service for nearly free? " or "Maybe it is a love-hotel and I am just renting a room for an hour? " or "Did he just offer 20 whatever for my ass? ". He must have seen that I have strange thoughts, so he used his calculator and punched a number in: 200 000. "twenty" he repeated with a smile. Well, just a little language problem and my thoughts changed to good mood!

[/QUOTE]

Great report and it is good to see that anma#'s are still open. I was busy with 'freebees' so my last anma experience is some time ago. Your report reminds me that I need to go again.

One word regarding the '20' quote for the ones not living here.
In Korea they also count 10.000 won as 1 man won = 1 만 원. so what he meant with 20 was 20 man = 20x10.000 = 200.000 Won

Brain666

[QUOTE=Ezinho] ....
On another note, I checked out Miari last Friday night at about 10:00 pm. I had to meet someone at the Holiday Inn Seongbuk, so since I was in the area I decided to check it out. You get out at Girium exit 10 and it's right outside, just pass though the "car wash flaps", you can't miss them.

It was so cold out that all the women were bundled up. They were sitting in these little plastic booths, it's hard to explain. Anyways, I didn't really see anything good, but I only checked out a couple of alleyways before I decided to head back because of the freezing temperature.

Are the women in the booths working, or are they the mamasans? They looked too old to be working girls but I guess you never know in this country![/QUOTE]

For necomers to miari: of course the women outside is not the working girl !!! They are the mama-sans or however you want to call them. The girls are in the glass houses which nowadays are usually fully closed and you only get to see them if you are somehow interested. Not all will serve you especially not the ones right after the 'car wash flaps' entrance. You need to go further and there will be enough who will make offers.
Don't know the actual quality though - its been some time ago when I went there and I usually have some save palces where I am well welcomed and recieve good service.
Not sure if my previous favourite spot is even still open.

anyhow, please make another try and report.

regards

Brain666

Wow guys, I just got home from a week in Seoul on business. I HAVE to report on this one provider in Itewon. Her name is Soo Ae, and she works in some place called the peach fuzz or something like that. Go past hooker hill on your left and proceed up the hill past the tranny bars. The sign is in pink.

Went there last night and was the only guy in the place. Little couches with a curtain to draw for privacy. Met Soo Ae and she was very cute, bubbly and friendly. Thought she was mid 30’s with a great body and nice tits. Nice long black hair and an hour glass figure. Really thin waist and she actually had a pretty nice ass for a Korean.

Anyway, down to business, I only brought enough won with me for short time and I.D. (old habit). So, I only have about 140K, and after a LD (10K) and a beer (7K) she asks if I want “fun time”. Hell yes, and offer up the money. She is disappointed and says 200K for fun time. I say all I have and she agrees. She goes and gets her little basket of oils and condoms, and I take off my clothes and she washes my dick with some handy wipes. She gets naked also except for the thigh high black leather boots. Standing in front of me with legs spread and hands on her hips, I am reminded of a comic book heroin. What a silhouette! She had an obscenely thin waist and small well rounded C cup tits with smallish brown pencil eraser nipples standing straight out. Fuck my dick is hard already.

She kneels down in front of me and asks if I want CBJ. I tell her it’s OK, and she goes for it without. Not bad, but nothing special to write home about. She puts on the condom and mounts for cowgirl with her knees on either side of me, then switches around for reverse CG while standing. Now for the good stuff, you would think I was Ron Jeremy with the way she was yelling. I would give her the best actress Oscar for the porn talk coming out of her mouth. I almost cum at this point, but it was too soon in the ballgame.

So we switch to her laying down on her back mish, and me pumping slowly into what I can only describe as a really tight vagina with a delicate small bush and light brown lips kind of reaching out for my cock. She just kept staring into my face with these baby brown eyes, making cooing noises while I pumped her. Alas, I could not cum, much to her disappointment. I don’t know what happened as I had not been drinking at all. So she suggests we go to my place, and I ask how much as I am still inside her. She says 300K and I say how about 200 and she says OK almost too quickly.

We get dressed and head to the D’Oro hotel where I am staying. Nice new hotel for 60K and all the amenities. Two quick showers and we get down to business. Fuck she looks even better buck naked without the boots. Way better blow job this time, and we fuck for about another hour until we both are sweaty, and finally she says, “You come ok?” I tell her no problem and have one the best orgasms in years, deep in her (condom on) doggy style. She pulls the condom off and says, “Wow you came a lot”.

Unfortunately, after this she was pretty much business and showered up and left. Still though, one of the best fucks I have had in a while and a top three mongering experience. Only wish I had some photos to share.

Have fun with that one.

Just decided to go to seoul. Where is belle?

It had been a few years since I last tried an Anma (안마) in Korea. I didn't realize what I had been missing. There is an alley of these places near Seollung station (#2 line). The alley behind (or above) Teheran-ro. They have parking lots that resemble car washes and the way it's spelt is as I've spelt it above. Now I am Korean so I understand that this post may be of little use to non-Koreans who are looking for the same experience. Since I speak Korean and my communication was done 100% in Korean, I am not sure if the one I went to accepts non-Koreans. What I did inquire was whether the young lady I met had ever serviced a non-Korean and she replied simply that she had serviced some Japanese men, but they were Japanese men who could converse in Korean. The place is called Koguryo and is about one block away from Exit #8 of the above mentioned subway station.

You enter and are greeted by a woman receptionist. She quotes the price as 180,000 KRW (with the exchange rates now that's even less than $150 USD). A male attendant escorted me downstairs to a common area that has lockers and resembles the dressing room that is found in many of the public baths in Korea (very clean). Since I went during the middle of the day, there were no other customers so it made me feel like it was my own personal bath. Sometimes I wish these places would have female attendants but with the price that I was paying and the service that was offered, I am really in no position to explain. After I undressed and put on their bathrobe I was informed by the same attendant that the young lady needed a bit more time and he led me to a mini-PC room where I used the internet. Shortly after he led me two flights up to a floor that that resembles a five star hotel. There are countless number of rooms and the facilities are top notch. He eventually led me to a room and opened the door and inside sitting on the bed was a lovely young lady who called herself "June." She was very pretty and had shapely legs, a nice ass and a relatively nice set of tits. She took it very slow by offering me a cool drink and asked if she could smoke a cigarette. I obliged and we started talking about how long she'd been in the business, where she was originally from, her mother, her upbringing, and other small chit chat. I helped her out of her one piece dress and she asked me to help her out of her lingerie. She finished her cigarette and off to the massage table (that was right inside the same room along with bathroom facilities, a sauna and sink). She washed me down and then applied some liquid to her body and hopped right on my back. She did the slip-slide massage by pushing her tits and pussy into my back, legs and calves. She started to lick me all over on my back side and even tongued my asshole. The last time I was at an Anma the girl poured a can of Chilsung Cider on my back and drank off my body (which was in itself erotic). But as June was licking and sucking me, I started to actually wonder what liquid she had applied to her body and then rubbed into mine... it couldn't possibly be soap. But that thought was momentary as I continued to enjoy her mouth and tongue. She then asked me to turn over and again did the slip-slide massage and really gyrated her tits and pussy onto my chest, my pelvis and legs. She started to suck my knees which creates this indescribable sensation...and then she proceeded to my cock and started to suck like there was no tomorrow. I stopped her after a while and she calmly helped me up, washed me down and dried me (and herself) and we proceeded to the bed.

Now the bedroom area has a bed with a mirror next to it. But when you lie down, there's also a mirror on the roof which gives you a panoramic view of the action that was to commence. And did it ever commence. She pushed me down onto my back and again did a replay of the action on the massage table. She never hesitated to suck my dick and even asked me if I wanted more bj action. She placed a condom and then off to the races. First cow-girl style but then I lay her missionary style and slid inside her. Now at this point, I would have been satisfied with just fucking... but she asked me to kiss her DFK style. I was surprised since a lot of places have girls who are more than willing to go through the deed but often draw the line with kissing. But she was a gem and moreover suggested it to me and of course I obliged. After I came she lay beside me and wanted to talk more. Since I am Korean and speak Korean but am not from Korea there might have been an intrigue factor (or maybe she's quite skilled at being a good provider in all aspects). But I never got the feeling that this girl wanted to simply just leave after everything was done and in the end it's impressions that make or break the deal in these kind of joints. I'm not naive to think that she was taken by me but she sure made me feel it and in the end that's what makes your money count. She took time cleaning me up, talking with me again about life in general, this and that... I really thought it would be a wham, bam thank you ma'am deal but not at all. I helped her dress and she was a sport even when we said our good-byes. I went back downstairs (I forewent the massage by a blind person) and again was met by the attendant. They make you feel like a VIP and even felt bad that I didn't have the massage (which by the way is what Anma 안마 means) so they even offered to order me lunch. I declined since I had to meet someone. For the price that I paid, the service and facilities are top notch. If you're a non-Korean and can find a place that will accept you as a customer (again I'm not sure with Koguryo based on my conversation), and you can fork over 180,000 KRW (or 200,000 KRW), this is the real deal in Korea. It doesn't have the seedy feel of the RLD (although that seedy feel is what turns some people on) and the service is really at its best. Of course in the RLD you can get laid for more than half the price of an Anma, but when you walk away from an Anma you really feel like you got the full package.

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[QUOTE=KingDiamond]Just decided to go to seoul. Where is belle?[/QUOTE]

There must be at least 5 previous posts with this info. RTFF.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]I wanted to ask her about coming to my place sometime after work. We started talking about sex and she told me she hasn't had sex in over three years! So, I didn't even bother asking about it. Shame that body is going to waste.[/QUOTE]

You should have asked. She's probably lying about the 3 years thing, or maybe you misunderstood her Korean. Remember when you went to strip clubs in the States (or anywhere for that matter) and when you talk up strippers when you get lapdances and all? Didn't you find it amazing that ALL of the girls were paying their way through college? Even the 40+ year old girl who obviously lived a hard, coke-fueled life...
Next time, ask her out. You might be able to score. I had a date with one of the chicks from Cool when I was there, and it turned into a freebie (disclaimer: I keep in touch and she no longer works there.. Sorry to disappoint guys).

Anmadude,

I had a very similar experience to yours in an anma in Icheon I think (see previous posts). It was new to me (1st time) and was exciting, especially the whole body massage.

My question to the board is: Would it be helpful to learn the Korean language? Would that help even if the guy is foreigner? I realize some of the language (suck my tits, DFK me, your pussy is tight!) will not be in the online classes or typical dictionaries. But maybe with some tutoring I would be able to learn.

So, I guess the question to the Koreans on the board is: Are these places off limits to foreigners because we are foreign? Or is it because communication is difficult and the experience would be a disaster for everyone involved?

Just wondering because I just found out I will be in Seoul next year for the next three years and I am thinking I need to learn Korean so I can order some food.

thanks or kamsahamnida

[QUOTE=Carmex]Anmadude,

I had a very similar experience to yours in an anma in Icheon I think (see previous posts). It was new to me (1st time) and was exciting, especially the whole body massage.

My question to the board is: Would it be helpful to learn the Korean language? Would that help even if the guy is foreigner? I realize some of the language (suck my tits, DFK me, your pussy is tight! ) will not be in the online classes or typical dictionaries. But maybe with some tutoring I would be able to learn.

So, I guess the question to the Koreans on the board is: Are these places off limits to foreigners because we are foreign? Or is it because communication is difficult and the experience would be a disaster for everyone involved?

Just wondering because I just found out I will be in Seoul next year for the next three years and I am thinking I need to learn Korean so I can order some food.

Thanks or kamsahamnida[/QUOTE]Both Yes and No. Sometimes you might be able to convince places that usually doesn't except foreigners if your Korean is good, and I by that I mean that you can converse freely in a way that shows you understand Korea. But the number one reason that places doesn't accept foreigners is because Korean guys doesn't like to share "their" girls with foreign guys, based on different prejudices. So in order not to loose the Korean clientel they rather choose to refuse foreigners. However some places find that foreigners also make good costumers and they can usually charge a little more from foreigners. If you go during the time of the day when not many other costumers are around it will be easier as they can sneak you in and out without any Korean guys noticing it. Of course there are also some girls who doesn't wanna service foreigners, but it's mostly not the reason, and if you can speak Korean even most of those girls will feel comfortable enough to service you.

Thanks LeLion,

I would say that clears up things a bit. As most of the Koreans I know were either born here/raised in USA, or born/raised in USA, I have little interaction with native Korean men. I can say that the interaction I have had with them has been pleasant; albeit on a surface level only.

I would like to offer a different perspective. Being from Hawaii, there is very much an “US vs. Them” mentality in regards to Locals vs. Visitors. And by locals I mean people who were born on one of the islands. However, if you were born there and moved away to the mainland to be raised, then you were also local, but not really, sort of like half local or local by birth only.

I would face this often as being a white guy, most would assume not local. But once I opened my mouth, people knew I was a local guy and those rates and services would apply. Sometimes, nothing would change things as many locals just plainly outright “hate” white people or tourists for whatever reason. And, some people are just plain assholes. Every society has them.

I do admire the Korean nation for pulling itself out of the disaster of the war. I was here in ’91 and it was nothing like it is today. (Except maybe Hooker Hill) I also firmly believe the younger generation does not realize the sacrifice of their parents and grandparents.

So, OK, I know understand what is up. It makes sense. If you have a built up clientele of locals, then why would you jeopardize that by servicing foreigner? Only makes good business sense and you cannot criticize someone for that.

Whew, I know three languages already, but I think Korean might be difficult. Plus, who is going to teach me, “Can I suck your tits”? I am sure that is not in the ‘Korean phrasebook for travelers’.

Aloha to all and happy fucking,

Carm.

Has anyone been to room salon? I know that perhaps language barrier may be too difficult to overcome. But I heard that most stunning girls are in the roomsalon of Kangnam. I am sure there are times you appreciate strict service nature of glass door girls and anmas. But there times we (mongers) yearn some conversation and a chance to be treated like kings etc. Alcohol and babes.

Just my 2 won worth on each conversation!

Anmadude,

You are in a very unique position to be of assistance to all of us that are obvious waeguks (foreigners) here. Being that you are Korean by birth, you will be allowed entry and access to many places that any waeguk would not be. Many places will let you in just by seeing you. Also, if you are in a helpful mood, you could probably act as an escort to get other members in the front door of places that would normally turn us away if we tried to go in on our own. Keep up the effort to monger and report on every possible venue you can find. Even if the rest of us non-Koreans can't go in, the reports should make for interesting reading. Please try to take some pictures and post them also!

Carmex,

Man you get around! I've been seeing your posts on the PI boards and also in Thailand (I think). Where do you get all the stamina?

Learning the language will definitely help to get you better service here in Korea. It might even get you inside some places that normally turn foreigners away. I would suggest you find someone like Anmadude to teach you the proper terms for use with the ladies. But whoever teaches you, be cautious when you first use a phrase. 22 years ago, when I was a "cherry boy" in Korea, I learned not to immediately try a phrase on a woman, unless I could make it clear to her first that someone else told me to say it. I watched many of my friends get severely beaten (not in the fun sense) by Korean girls because they were offended by what the guy said. Turns out the guys that were doing the teaching thought it would be funny to see this happen, and purposefully taught the poor ignorant fools lines that turned those sweet, petite Korean girls into raging bulls. I found that it helped, when someone taught me a line to use, if I discussed it with a 3rd party that understood English and Korean very well. If their reaction to what I said was one of surprise, or they told me the line was bad, I would not say it to any woman.

To all members,

The Korean threads are very dead compared to what they used to be. I know that the new Korean laws, and the military zero tolerance thing, have made the hobby difficult. I'm not as active here in Korea as I used to be either. But I also know that there is much more going on than is being reported. Please bring some life back into these forums guys!

Happy Mongering!
HW

[QUOTE=Juan73]Has anyone been to room salon? I know that perhaps language barrier may be too difficult to overcome. But I heard that most stunning girls are in the roomsalon of Kangnam. I am sure there are times you appreciate strict service nature of glass door girls and anmas. But there times we (mongers) yearn some conversation and a chance to be treated like kings etc. Alcohol and babes.[/QUOTE]

Yes we need to get these threads a bit more active!

In any event, I've visited numerous room salon establishments, and I can confirm that the higher end venues (10%) do offer stunning girls, majority of which look a bit plastic but still nonetheless gorgeous girls with slamming bodies. Prices for the higher end places are really steep, especially for just the presence of a beautiful young girl to sit and accompany you while drinking. As mentioned, the 10% places will not offer a second round (2 cha) for follow up action back at a hotel. I believe tip prices to just the girl is at W100K, along with drink and room prices which should eventually set you back about W500-600K a head.

Other establishments, especially ones mentioned on this board and refered to as the Buk Chang Dong style, are technically considered the lower end room salons, with a time limit of only 2 hours, and is known to be a bit seedier as girls will sit topless with you and the last 10 minutes will be reserved for a bareback blowjob followed by a handjob in the same room as your colleagues. Quite an experience but tiresome after a while. Prices should be about W200K or a bit less.

Mid end room salons will offer a bit of both, beautiful looking girls with an opportunity for take out but this must be stated prior to entry as the madame will bring out different girls depending on who wants second round or
not. In any event, its basically the same deal, girl sits with you, pours your drinks, feeds you fruit and sings songs at your request. Prices usually including 2nd round can go for about W500K.

From my observations, the room salon girls are amongst the prettier girls here in Korea - even on the same level as some high profile celebrities. Definitely a good experience but really fucking expensive.

On a side note, a lot of these ktvs and room salons are quite the cutural norm throughout asia. In the PI, ktvs are a fraction of what you can pay here in Korea and thus Japanese and Korean tourists are frequent visitors to these establishments because they're dirt cheap in comparison and fucking is usually guaranteed for a spinner. Ktvs in Shanghai and in China in general are also tons of fun, as these huge venues can house about 200 girls and pricing is also dirt cheap in comparison with sex included at the end of the session.

Sometimes its nice to be treated like a king, but then the costs associated with room salons will eventually make you a peasant. The times I did go was always with clients or colleagues on the corporate card. In any event, should you go, it would be best to go with a local to arrange reservations and costs.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]Yes we need to get these threads a bit more active!

In any event, I've visited numerous room salon establishments, and I can confirm that the higher end venues (10%) do offer stunning girls, majority of which look a bit plastic but still nonetheless gorgeous girls with slamming bodies. Prices for the higher end places are really steep, especially for just the presence of a beautiful young girl to sit and accompany you while drinking. As mentioned, the 10% places will not offer a second round (2 cha) for follow up action back at a hotel. I believe tip prices to just the girl is at W100K, along with drink and room prices which should eventually set you back about W500-600K a head.

Other establishments, especially ones mentioned on this board and refered to as the Buk Chang Dong style, are technically considered the lower end room salons, with a time limit of only 2 hours, and is known to be a bit seedier as girls will sit topless with you and the last 10 minutes will be reserved for a bareback blowjob followed by a handjob in the same room as your colleagues. Quite an experience but tiresome after a while. Prices should be about W200K or a bit less.

Mid end room salons will offer a bit of both, beautiful looking girls with an opportunity for take out but this must be stated prior to entry as the madame will bring out different girls depending on who wants second round or
not. In any event, its basically the same deal, girl sits with you, pours your drinks, feeds you fruit and sings songs at your request. Prices usually including 2nd round can go for about W500K.

From my observations, the room salon girls are amongst the prettier girls here in Korea - even on the same level as some high profile celebrities. Definitely a good experience but really fucking expensive.

On a side note, a lot of these ktvs and room salons are quite the cutural norm throughout asia. In the PI, ktvs are a fraction of what you can pay here in Korea and thus Japanese and Korean tourists are frequent visitors to these establishments because they're dirt cheap in comparison and fucking is usually guaranteed for a spinner. Ktvs in Shanghai and in China in general are also tons of fun, as these huge venues can house about 200 girls and pricing is also dirt cheap in comparison with sex included at the end of the session.

Sometimes its nice to be treated like a king, but then the costs associated with room salons will eventually make you a peasant. The times I did go was always with clients or colleagues on the corporate card. In any event, should you go, it would be best to go with a local to arrange reservations and costs.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your information.

I agree. Many asian women hide their age and beauty rather well with plastic surgery supplemented by make-up. Of course alcohol we consume only augments their beauty.

I guess I am just curious about how beautiful they are in room salons.

Visiting Anmas, massage parlours and other brothels provide sure things that can be rather mechanical and I guess I am looking for other options.

I did visit some korean roomsalons in Houston (TX) and they were okay with women range from asian scale of 3s-7s. As an asian-american I can really appreciate true beauty (or ****) when I see one. However I am constantly amazed by "different" standards that non-asians have. I know countless number of caucasian friends going out with okay asian girls (3s-4s), but my friends think they are gorgeous...

In order to provide where I am coming from...here is well known asian stars with scale from 1 to 10: You can google for images

Lucy Lu who appears in kill bill would be rated as 1 and Kim You Jin (korean actress in T.V. show "Lost") would be slight below average with rate of 4, but women liked kim tae hee or kim hee sun would be 8 and chun ji hyun would be 9.

So please if you those 9s in kangnam please post here.

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]Other establishments, especially ones mentioned on this board and refered to as the Buk Chang Dong style, are technically considered the lower end room salons, with a time limit of only 2 hours, and is known to be a bit seedier as girls will sit topless with you and the last 10 minutes will be reserved for a bareback blowjob followed by a handjob in the same room as your colleagues. Quite an experience but tiresome after a while. Prices should be about W200K or a bit less.[/QUOTE]During a whistlestop business trip to Seoul I was taken to one of these place with 3 business associates. It is good fun, but the girls weren't anything to write home about, and ranged from 4-7. Being a guest I got first choice, lucky me. It is kind of seedy but with the beer and whisky flowing, and the girls taking their clothes off, it is fun if you are not paying.

I imagine my associates felt I would be uncomfortable being sucked off in front of them, so they paid for her to come back to my hotel with me. She took a shower, and DFK, BBBJ and CIM were on the menu. She wouldn't fuck as apparently I was too big, but as I was quite drunk, that was no major concern, and I was happy to let her do the work sucking me off. After I had shot my bolt I went down on her until she came, which was quite quickly. She stayed about an hour, and requested my email before she left - perhaps we will become pen pals?

I also visited Koreana hotel sporex spa, very good massage and nice facilities - the set up has been described before so I won't reiterate that, but the massage was from a young Korean cutie, and included a HE. SHe didn't get naked but touching her up　over her clothes was fine. Again, I wasn't paying and at 118k KRW it is hardly value, but the massage was a "proper" massage and very good too.

Here for a second visit. Last time did a bar girl on hooker hill. Being new, probably got "taken" $2. USD and thats afetr a couple $20 drinks. She was a beauty though. Probably a (, the best looking Korean, overall I have been with. And she spoke good english.

Hoping to do better. Cheaper this time.

Here with a group that definitely is not going to do any mogering so I'll be on my own for short periods of time.

Had a card from a massage place last time (Song's Body Massage), older heavy-set hawker. Hope she is not the provider. Anybody with experience?

Having a little difficulty finding the definition for RLD. Is that like a stright on brothel?

Anyway, have more knowledge of China, specifically Changping. Been there a few times. Kind of a new experience here in Seoul. Will be here a few more days if anyone can assist.

BTW, don't speak Korean.

Thanks in advance.

Mika

I took airport bus 9k wons, from airport to Myeongdong. After having dinner, I took taxi to Gireum(pronounced Ki rum). Line 4 subway can go there for 1k won, just get down from Myeongdong Station(make sure you go the right direction, Gireum is station #417)

Once getting to Gireum, taking exit 10, I found a bunch of people standing by, most are SEAsian mongerers and mamasans. I went on ahead and asked for a motel. Walking pass all active area, still on same side of street, to the first corner(it has a big SK Telekom shop sign at the corner, turn slight right, you can find a motel, which has cotton curtain to cover the entrance), I turn right and got the motel. Just 35k won you get luxury quality room, with PC and internet ready!.

Rest 1 hour, I come back out at 2am. It was cold, but mamasans still there. I got sandwiched by 2 mamasans, the better looking one won the battle and took me into her BBS. It is not far from the motel(all on same side of street), in front has a banner of Korean letters. Walking upstairs on 2nd floor, last door on the right, girls are there waiting. They are young, quality 7 out 10. Not absolute stunners, but they are pretty, and young(21-23 y.o). The place is clean!

I pay 70k. I think you can ask to pay 60k. Then picked 1 girl. She went on to do all the deeds, licking, BJ, riding, and I do DATY. About 15 minutes of pounding, I came. Could not do more than that. A bit mechanical, but the feelings is just right. Very correct and customer-oriented. She nicely sent me to the door and gave me a yogurt. No rush at all, girls are very very polite.

I guess this is the best of Seoul in terms of what we pay for.

From airport to here, totally I could pay just 10k, plus 35k for hotel.

I wish to take out all night, not sure how to say it to mamasan. My Korean is zero. I think we can ask to take the girl out at 3am. That is when they are off duty. 140k is the one I can think of for 3am to whatever in morning. This is only my assumption, I am not sure mamasan agrees her girl to be taken out or not. Earlier than 3am, I think it is not practical to ask the girl out. Or we have to pay substantial price to cover her work the whole shift.

Here is a good place, with no discrimination. I have been to Jeonju and was completely denied by many working girls in the window shops, since I don't speak Korean. Pusan Haeundae Beach is opened to all, but their overall quality is not high except some stunners in the middle of the row. However, Jeonju is stunning quality. Thing is, they don't do foreigners flatly, in at royal city.

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Was in Kangnam a while ago, and tried some of the popular HJ places. Cool asked for 75,000 won (foreigner price, at a HJ place, what the hell?!), which I politely declined (I suggest we all do, since there are other options a few meters away; their loss). Saw Belle, but tried Angel instead, since I remember going there last year, and it was pretty good. This time the girl wasn't good looking (the worst I ever had in such a place), but the service was very good. Still, not a good idea to have a below-average looking girl work there, it'll drive customers away: I'll try Belle next time.
I also tried that 'Zest' place a few months ago, where they wear costumes, it was alright, but nothing to write home about. OK if you're in the area, but not really worth the trip.

Any HJ places north of the river?

Are there any places in Seoul where one can find Russian/Ukrainian European girls?

Thank you

[QUOTE=Skintboy Mike]Are there any places in Seoul where one can find Russian/Ukrainian European girls?

Thank you[/QUOTE]There's some room salons with russian girls north of 선릉station

[QUOTE=Mika Soto]Here for a second visit. Last time did a bar girl on hooker hill. Being new, probably got "taken" $2. USD and thats afetr a couple $20 drinks. She was a beauty though. Probably a (, the best looking Korean, overall I have been with. And she spoke good english.

Hoping to do better. Cheaper this time.[/quote]I have never paid more than $100 in Itaewon, but when I find a girl who is beckoning me into her establishment, I go in and am very straight forward. I don't want a drink. All I want is sex (or some cute hand gesture or phrase a little less blunt). Then I tell her I only have $100. I mean, if she's hot and you think you can get better service from her by paying $150, that's fine, but so far price and service haven't always gone hand in hand. I got great service for $100 and bad service for the same price. Anyway, see if you can get a feel for her personality, but don't pay more than $100 (actually, that means 100, 000 won, so that is more like $73. Sweet deal.

[QUOTE=Darren 33]

Any HJ places north of the river?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I also would like to read more reports from places around Sinchon, Hongdae, Jongno. Does anyone know some good places in these areas?

Carmex,

Had my first experience with the same person you mentioned in Itaewon. SHE WAS FANTASTIC!

It was just dumb luck I ended up with her.

[QUOTE=Carmex]Wow guys, I just got home from a week in Seoul on business. I HAVE to report on this one provider in Itewon. Her name is Soo Ae, and she works in some place called the peach fuzz or something like that. Go past hooker hill on your left and proceed up the hill past the tranny bars. The sign is in pink.[/QUOTE]

Miari report,

So after reading tons of reports I decided to give Miari a try.

Saturday afternoon roughly around 9pm. I was driving so finding it was a bit hard but once I saw the station and looked for landmarks as decribed I was in. I walked around and yes there were "mamasons" huddled up in tents. Many saw me but didn't say I think on what I perceived to be the main road however I went to a side street (alley) and was propositioned immediately. I don't speak KOrean and she wasnt an englih speaker but I knew what to ecpect and everythign went fine. When I walked in the "house" there was one femele (Id say a Solid 6) and she was good. I went upstairs to what I'm guessing the 3rd floor to a small room and did the deed. She was very patient. Never felt rushed. I had a polite demeanor since I had no idea who or what was in the building. I was in and out in roughly 30-35 minutes.

Now for me Itaewon is NOT an option for me whatsoever. Miari is a safe distance away. I am looking forward in trying again.

[QUOTE=Sfinil]I have never paid more than $100 in Itaewon, but when I find a girl who is beckoning me into her establishment, I go in and am very straight forward. I don't want a drink. All I want is sex (or some cute hand gesture or phrase a little less blunt). Then I tell her I only have $100. I mean, if she's hot and you think you can get better service from her by paying $150, that's fine, but so far price and service haven't always gone hand in hand. I got great service for $100 and bad service for the same price. Anyway, see if you can get a feel for her personality, but don't pay more than $100 (actually, that means 100, 000 won, so that is more like $73. Sweet deal.[/QUOTE]

Correct! 100.000 Won is the going price. Below is difficult. They may start with 200k, then jump to 150k and settle for 100k. Don't let you talk into too much drinks. For a first approach to test the waters you may spend 20k for a drink and maybe a second one, but never more. Once you have a provider you are satisfied with, then you can just walk in and remind the 100k you had last time w/o any drinks.
Usually there is no diffreence in service. The girls provide more according to their personality and 'service readiness'.

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Brain666]Correct! 100.000 Won is the going price. Below is difficult. They may start with 200k, then jump to 150k and settle for 100k. Don't let you talk into too much drinks. For a first approach to test the waters you may spend 20k for a drink and maybe a second one, but never more. Once you have a provider you are satisfied with, then you can just walk in and remind the 100k you had last time w/o any drinks.
Usually there is no diffreence in service. The girls provide more according to their personality and 'service readiness'.

regards

Brain666[/QUOTE]
I just got back from Itaewon tonight and after reading some of the reports on Hooker Hill, I decided it's something I needed to try out at least once while I'm here. I ended up in Eve Bar, about halfway up the the Hill. The girl working there was named Jina, 27 years old, very good English. She quoted me 100k for a BJ and 150k for sex. I snorted at those prices and said I would give her 50k for a BBBJCIM. She countered with 70k, I said 60k and she took it. She did a very good job and I have to say it was worth the 60,000 won that I paid. She got naked as well; nice tits with pointy nips, her ass was kind of lacking, but I guess that's how Korean girls are! Overall, better than going to the HJ/BJ places in Kangnam because there's no half-assed massage and small talk; you just go in, blow your load, and then leave.

I would go back and see Jina again. Next time I may try the FS option, but since it was my first time on the Hill, I just wanted a sample BBBJ.

Can anyone recommend any other girls on Hooker Hill? Also, is 60k a fair price for a BBBJCIM or should I have held firm at 50k?

60k won is a fair price,especially with the won/$ exchange rate now. With the exchange rate it is about $43. A year ago and that would have been equivalent to $65-$70. ABC Club has a couple of good girls. Cube Bar is a good place to hang out (no sex) for a couple of drinks and to look up and down the hill. It is 2/3 the way up on the right side. It opens at 8 or 9pm. After the military curfew (midnight Sun-Thursday; 3am on Fri and Sat) , many of the places service the Nigerian and African crowd. Also Itaewon Land ( a Jimjilbang) just re-opended at the very top. 7k during the day and 10k after 6pm. Very relaxing!

Bad:

Stay away from Anma across from Lotte Hotel. Overpriced (haggled to 200,000won) and set me packing after the ladies saw my "package".

Twin Horses in Yeuido. Previously, they had events with two ladies (one for short while) at the same time. No more, and they jacked up the price (240,000won). HORRIBLE massage after. Actually told the blind agema to stop after she bruised my arm.

Good:

Imperial Palace hotel Anma (just down the street across from Sushi restaurant=140,000won). Been a regular for 6 months now (same girl-GFE). Girl gives great massage and facial then screws my brains out (after the whole soap and shower deal). Loves the dick. Last week, I told them it was my birthday, so she brought her massage "friend" and I had the most intense threesome of my life (and I have had many). The adgeshi looked at me like I was a Porn Star when I was leaving (mouth agape). The girls were moaning and cumming right out of a movie. No bullshit.

Sinchon close to Ewha Station. Reported previous experience before. Tried again today with different girl. Managed to pay 170,000won this time. Knock out-9. Fantastic body. She tossed my salad like she owed me money. I finally got the MILK BATH! She wore me out, and blind female massage followed. Best full service Anma yet. Foreigner friendly (sign in English, Japanese, Chinese).

Life is good . . .

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Bad:

Stay away from Anma across from Lotte Hotel. Overpriced (haggled to 200,000won) and set me packing after the ladies saw my "package".

Twin Horses in Yeuido. Previously, they had events with two ladies (one for short while) at the same time. No more, and they jacked up the price (240,000won). HORRIBLE massage after. Actually told the blind agema to stop after she bruised my arm.

Good:

Imperial Palace hotel Anma (just down the street across from Sushi restaurant=140,000won). Been a regular for 6 months now (same girl-GFE). Girl gives great massage and facial then screws my brains out (after the whole soap and shower deal). Loves the dick. Last week, I told them it was my birthday, so she brought her massage "friend" and I had the most intense threesome of my life (and I have had many). The adgeshi looked at me like I was a Porn Star when I was leaving (mouth agape). The girls were moaning and cumming right out of a movie. No bullshit.

Sinchon close to Ewha Station. Reported previous experience before. Tried again today with different girl. Managed to pay 170,000won this time. Knock out-9. Fantastic body. She tossed my salad like she owed me money. I finally got the MILK BATH! She wore me out, and blind female massage followed. Best full service Anma yet. Foreigner friendly (sign in English, Japanese, Chinese).

Life is good . . .[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info J.R. i am flying to Korea tomorrow and will be in Seoul for 1 week. Any other information or tips you or anyone else can share? Post here or PM me!!

Hey guys,

This is going to be my 1st time in Seoul and I am looking forward to the experience!

I was wondering if anyone could help me out with my first experiences. Where to go who to see etc.

I have been reading the posts and I am still not sure where to start.

PM me or post here any tips or especially places to stay away from!

I will be sure to post my experiences to try to help!

Thank you

[QUOTE=Carmex]Anmadude,


So, I guess the question to the Koreans on the board is: Are these places off limits to foreigners because we are foreign? Or is it because communication is difficult and the experience would be a disaster for everyone involved?

[/QUOTE]

In general, most Koreans appear racist, becuase they are. Again, this is a stereo type, but with truth. I have many Korean friends that I adore, so not everyone. The general public can suck my bigger penis! Racism anywhere is not ok with me, just a reality.

Are Koreans racist? Well yes to some degree but this is quite common throughout Asia. If you go to Japan for example, there will be establishments that take only Japanese customers. The lower end establishments will take anyone but this is quite common.

I mean hey there are golf clubs in the USA that are only open to men or caucasian men--but you don't hear people whining about that right.

My question was would it be beneficial to learn the Korean language, e.i. would it help me get laid more. And more specifically, would the effort put into learning be worth the payback in terms of pussy. Vag that would not be available to me for only speaking Tagalog, English, Arabic, etc.

Don't really want to discuss racism or xenophobia, just really more interested in girls. What these guys do in thier own country does not really bother me. I am more interested in girls and whats between thier legs. Oh yea, and how much it costs hahaha.

On a side note, now that I am thinking about it, I have to finish all my evaluations for my Korean subordinates for the year. Man, you would not believe what these guys get paid. Very low compared to US standards. People in the US would not stand for that shit. So, my determination now is, if the price is lower for Koreans, now knowing what they get paid, I'm like OK. So now, I don't mind paying a little extra. Trust me, if you saw the numbers you would agree. Although I know some guys wont.

Take care everyone and thanks for the recent posts, hopefully we can get this board back up again as Hairy Wonder suggested. Unfortunetly, I will be on vacation for the next couple of months so, no new posts from me until summer. But after that, look out! Will move to Seoul and really get my groove on for a few years. ( I hope)

aloha,

Carmex

[QUOTE=Carmex]My question was would it be beneficial to learn the Korean language, e.i. would it help me get laid more.
Carmex[/QUOTE]

If you are tall, clean cut, and well dressed, this will be more to your advantage.
But, yes, learning Korean will allow you to talk to many people in their native language, therefore boosting your chances to "get laid more". They will appreciate the effort. Of course!



Then again, also consider you might find the truth about what they are really saying about you.

I find it more helpful to just play dumb, as if I know nothing of their culture.
Its easy for me~ haha

[QUOTE=soulcracker25]Carmex,

Had my first experience with the same person you mentioned in Itaewon. SHE WAS FANTASTIC!

It was just dumb luck I ended up with her.[/QUOTE]

Man, congrats. Yea, she was the same for me. Really changed my mind about Korean providers. Now the question is, do you go back to what you know is a good thing, or do you stike out and try find some new/better stuff? The thrill is always in the hunt, but damn do I hate to be disappointed.

So whats the story on how you ended up there?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Bad:

Stay away from Anma across from Lotte Hotel. Overpriced (haggled to 200,000won) and set me packing after the ladies saw my "package".
[/QUOTE]

Hmmm, you must be packing! Don't feel bad, I had the same thing happen to me before but just I just took it in stride and moved on to the next place. There are so many Anmas in Korea, they can't all refuse you. Also the policy at some of these places depends a lot on who is on duty. You can be denied entry one day only to be allowed in the next day.

how i ended up there. just pure dumb luck. i was up early one morning from a sleepless night so i figureded i check these scene at itaewon at around 5am ish. i was walking around and was on the side of the street whee every building i passsed by someone would peek their head out the door and motion me in. i didn't do it the first round because it caught me off guard. i walked back the same rows of buildings and walked into the first person that motioned me in (probably a newbie move).

as far as i can tell she was the only one in the building. i bought a beer and ended up paying for a 20, 000won drink. again, i was caught off guard so i probably made every newbie mistake. anyhow she looked fantastic and was super friendly. fast forwarding after the deed i hung out a bit and we chatted for about 20-25 minutes. she was actually really nice and did i mention looked friggin hot.

anyway as i said before just dumb luck. i read your post and nearly jumped out of my seat.

i hear itaewon has the lowest quality women but if they are anything like her you all have nothing to worry about.

oddly enough i can't remember the name of the club i met her at. i think it was called nymph.

[quote=carmex]man, congrats. yea, she was the same for me. really changed my mind about korean providers. now the question is, do you go back to what you know is a good thing, or do you stike out and try find some new/better stuff? the thrill is always in the hunt, but damn do i hate to be disappointed.

so whats the story on how you ended up there?

inquiring minds want to know.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Taloha]60k won is a fair price,especially with the won/$ exchange rate now. With the exchange rate it is about $43. A year ago and that would have been equivalent to $65-$70. ABC Club has a couple of good girls. Cube Bar is a good place to hang out (no sex) for a couple of drinks and to look up and down the hill. It is 2/3 the way up on the right side. It opens at 8 or 9pm. After the military curfew (midnight Sun-Thursday; 3am on Fri and Sat) , many of the places service the Nigerian and African crowd. Also Itaewon Land ( a Jimjilbang) just re-opended at the very top. 7k during the day and 10k after 6pm. Very relaxing![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the reply Taloha. I went back to The Hill last night and ended up in the same bar with Jina, this time without having to pay the 5,000 won for a drink for myself. Another great BBBJCIM at Eve Bar. I said it was halfway up The Hill in my last post but it's actually the first bar on the left.

I walked by ABC bar but it looked closed. Maybe the girl(s) were servicing someone at the time. Also, that Jimjilbang you mentioned looks like a swank joint, I need to check that out sometime!

Can anyone recommend which bars are good for non-pros/semi-pros in Itaewon? Some buddies of mine met a couple of hot Russian girls in Hard Rock Cafe, they said they were students but after seeing these girls that's hard to believe. I've been to Spy Bar multiple times because I've been told that Russian and Brasilian models hang out there but everytime I've gone ther it's been dead. There were a few hot Filipinas in Geckos tonight but there was a line of guys waiting to talk to them. I've been to Helios and wasn't impressed. So who can recommend the best bar in Itaewon for non pro pickups. I think Brain666 has posted about this before but that was a while back.

I'll be here for a bit, and was wondering where to find girls around here?

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Ezinho]I've been to Helios and wasn't impressed. So who can recommend the best bar in Itaewon for non pro pickups. I think Brain666 has posted about this before but that was a while back.[/QUOTE]

I have the impression that Itaewon has some less night guests overall. I remember it was always week in the first weeks of a year, but this year it is some kind more less.

In the past Helios was one of the best potential pickup points - but as usual there were good and bad days and it’s all about you and the girl to 'click' (ha usually in life). I share your opinion that the situation in Helios for potential pickups has deteriorated, if not to say significantly deteriorated. I believe it's because they raised the price too much - now 10.000 Won entrance fee also for girls and reduced the possibility of getting a 3000 Won 0,5l beer or 15.000 Won 3l pitcher as in the past. This drives the girls away - especially the ones with lower budget and also the ones more open to an experience. Subsequently the guys frequent less too. I am also going way less frequent now and while from around 23:00h- 1:00h it was packed in the past, it's now probably around 60% of the people as before.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]There were a few hot Filipinas in Geckos tonight but there was a line of guys waiting to talk to them. [/QUOTE]

It seems to me that Gecko's picked a lot of the crowd, which frequented Helios before. I recognize many known 'Helios' faces and of course subsequently the guys show up in higher numbers as well.
Gecko's has also a lot of foreign crowd, more white colored then black colored. Basically it is also a hang out/ meeting point for lots expat family members and their crowds. You can occasionally find an open-minded foreign teacher 'in search for some dick' (not obviously of course). But it is well known that due to the guys have it relatively easy with Korean girls, the single western females suffer and have drastically to reduce their high pride selfish standards they come in town with to just 'core needs' after some time here - so if you don't mind you could fulfill such core needs.

But also the girls who are open for pickup are there - but also don't show it so easy. And the guys seem to feel more hesitant to approach those girls, as they seem to feel uncomfortable with so many other foreigners around. Probably some don't want to be seen hunting and in Gecko's its also more risky to meet co worker’s, friends, foreign neighbors there etc.. At least that’s my 2 cts from the scenery.
The f/m ratio varies and there are good days/ hours with good number of females and rather low number of guys, but situation can change each hour from female dominated to a male dominated crowd. But in general Gecko’s is way more crowded now.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]
I've been to Spy Bar multiple times because I've been told that Russian and Brazilian models hang out there but every time I've gone there it's been dead. [/QUOTE]

Which time have you been there? I have to admit that I wasn't in SPY for more then 4 months now, but I recall that spy isn't crowded before at least 2:00h. Before its empty.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]
Can anyone recommend which bars are good for non-pros/semi-pros in Itaewon? [/QUOTE]

I am lacking good recommendation as well. Recently I had some good 'talks' (not all talks will necessarily bring success, but they can provide useful contacts for later) in B-one (around the corner from KFC at the Hamilton Hotel shopping mall). Other opportunities may be still JJMahoneys in Hyatt. I may need to revisit there.
The rest may just be occasions. I discovered that in the second alley are more new Bars now. I may check this more out.

It's good to know that the Hooker Hill is always a potential backup for releasing stress in case all efforts fail.

Regards and happy hunting

Brain666

Jack Rabbit,

No joy at the Imperial Palace anma. I walked down from the hotel to the intersection where the sushi restaurant is and saw an anma in a building diagonally across on the top floor. Walked up there but no foreigners allowed.

Tried to locate the anma near Ewha station but no luck. Is it on the main street or on one of the side streets?

Would like to ask the board to recommend any parlors or anmas which offer more than one girl. I have yet to find a good anma to report on.

I happened to venture into Itaewon last Saturday, and had to say that B1 had lots of people in there. Definitely a younger, smarter crowd then what you would normally find in Helios, Geckos, etc. so could be a good look for some freelancers.

Tried reading through the threads, but they get dated very quickly. I just want to know if there are any massage places in the Itaewon area, possible HJ, customer can be fully nude for oil massage, not really sex. I'm looking for a place more on the legit side, a good masseur, but with possibilities of extra. Does it exist, or maybe the Hannam area. I don't know Seoul very well.

BTW, did a girl who called herself Candy on Hooker hill, walking up on the left 1/2 way, last week. She had short hair and great attitude and everything else pretty good.

Before that, I had walked into ABC and was sitting down with some chick who I was planning on doing a transaction with. But, the Mamasan never shut up about anything, kept rambling on and on before I could even take a sip of my Scotch. Totally ruined the mood and I vanished quickly. No busines sense at all.

Randy,

You picked a good one. Candy is great. She has a little wear on her now days but still very good. Everything is on the menu with her. Straight sex, anal, threesomes with one of her friends. She hit me an a buddy up for a "special party" one time. She wanted to try a DP. Wild girl, although she'll usually quote a high price to start and you need to do a little negotiating.


Hit ABC myself last week. Mamasan has a Chinese girl working for her now. Girl works in the hotel across the street. Does incall. Good attitude, basic service, cheap, but average face and probably a 4 body, unless you're into thick farm girls.

Peace,


KORVET


[QUOTE=Randy O]Tried reading through the threads, but they get dated very quickly. I just want to know if there are any massage places in the Itaewon area, possible HJ, customer can be fully nude for oil massage, not really sex. I'm looking for a place more on the legit side, a good masseur, but with possibilities of extra. Does it exist, or maybe the Hannam area. I don't know Seoul very well.

BTW, did a girl who called herself Candy on Hooker hill, walking up on the left 1/2 way, last week. She had short hair and great attitude and everything else pretty good.

Before that, I had walked into ABC and was sitting down with some chick who I was planning on doing a transaction with. But, the Mamasan never shut up about anything, kept rambling on and on before I could even take a sip of my Scotch. Totally ruined the mood and I vanished quickly. No busines sense at all.[/QUOTE]

How much does Candy charge for anal?

Darren,

It varies. She always starts by asking some crazy high amount like 400K but she'll usually settle for about 200K (which isn't bad, considering the current exchange rate). That's for BBBJ, straight sex, and an anal round.

Candy isn't the only provider on the Hill for this. She's probably the best looking one though.

Enjoy,

KORVET

[QUOTE=Darren 33]How much does Candy charge for anal?[/QUOTE]

Brain666- Perhaps I have gone to Spy Bar too early then, as it has always been before 2:00, but usually after midnight or so. I guess I will have to check it out again after 2am.

As for JJ's in the Hyatt, I've been there once before as well with a few buddies from work but none of us were dressed appropriately, as you really need to be in a suit and tie for that place. I will have to make it out there in the near future.

Dizz Hizz- I have been to B One once before and I got the impression that it's more of a place you take a date rather than find one, but I will have to give it another try as well.

Randy O- The Sporex in the Koreana Hotel sounds like what you're looking for; it's not in Itaewon but it's not too far away since it is near the City Hall subway exit. Just what you want, nude oil massage with the optional HJ finish, but it's quite pricy (90k won, plus the entrance fee). No idea if something like this exists in the Itaewon area, there's an aroma massage place on the right side of the main street as you walk towards Noksapyeong area, but I've never been.

Which bar does this Candy work at? May I ask how much she wanted for FS?

[quote=randy o]tried reading through the threads, but they get dated very quickly. i just want to know if there are any massage places in the itaewon area, possible hj, customer can be fully nude for oil massage, not really sex. i'm looking for a place more on the legit side, a good masseur, but with possibilities of extra. does it exist, or maybe the hannam area. i don't know seoul very well.
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there are lots of legitimate massage places with just shorts as attire in seoul. one decent place is located next to the finance building in kwanghwamun up in the hotel ( i believe the new kukje hotel). they have the typical suana but with private rooms for massage. hj's are also available and you'll get one hell of a therapeutic beating in there. prices are about 90k.

[quote=dizz hizz]there are lots of legitimate massage places with just shorts as attire in seoul. one decent place is located next to the finance building in kwanghwamun up in the hotel ( i believe the new kukje hotel). they have the typical suana but with private rooms for massage. hj's are also available and you'll get one hell of a therapeutic beating in there. prices are about 90k.[/quote]


do you mind giving me some subway directions, say from sadang, samgaji or wherever, and anymore details. i'm pretty new here.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]
Randy O- The Sporex in the Koreana Hotel sounds like what you're looking for; it's not in Itaewon but it's not too far away since it is near the City Hall subway exit. Just what you want, nude oil massage with the optional HJ finish, but it's quite pricy (90k won, plus the entrance fee). No idea if something like this exists in the Itaewon area, there's an aroma massage place on the right side of the main street as you walk towards Noksapyeong area, but I've never been.

Which bar does this Candy work at? May I ask how much she wanted for FS?[/QUOTE]

Thanks! , Candy works at I belive a place called "The sex shop" She might have been joking though. I never checked. Walking up. it will be on the left, half way up. It's all I remember, sorry. I walked by twice, on tow different day, and each time she ran outside and smacked her ass. She DOES have a sense of humor.

[QUOTE](90k won, plus the entrance fee) ???????[/QUOTE]

Entrance fee? Please explain

Also, Noksapyeong ??? All I know is the intersection from the itaewon subway stop. You can walk the main road towards the direction of the Starbucks side (up) , or the other way. Help this idiot with directions, time is money.

[QUOTE=Darren 33]How much does Candy charge for anal?[/QUOTE]
Not sure yet, but she seemed to purr and suck me harder while I fingered ass while she gave me BBBJ. I honestly think she digs it. I was pondering the suggestion at that moment. hahah

[quote=randy o]
also, noksapyeong ??? all i know is the intersection from the itaewon subway stop. you can walk the main road towards the direction of the starbucks side (up) , or the other way. help this idiot with directions, time is money.[/quote]
noksapyong is the subway station after itaewon station which is in front of the hamilton hotel in itaewon. if you walk from hamilton hotel (but stay on the hamilton hotel side) towards mcdonald's you will eventually run into noksapyong station. there is an aroma massage shop on the hamilton hotel side. you will see it before you reach noksapyong station. the aroma massage shop is on the 3rd floor of a women's clothing store but you won't get anything more than a good massage in there. in fact they won't even dim the lights in the room and they sometimes leave the doors to the rooms open just so you know not to expect or ask for any extras.

the bright lights can spoil the relaxing mood of a good therapeutic massage but they will place a towel over your eyes if you want. the girls are not anything special; actually one of the girls working in there has been there so long i almost didn’t recognize her the last time i was there because she had packed on a quite a few extra pounds. however, they are very friendly the aroma massage is excellent. the barber shop on the opposite side of the street near the subway sandwich shop (closer to itaewon station) will wash your feet and provide fs but the quality of the girls in that shop varies as they seem to come and go at will.

Ez,

Candy usually works at Rosy's.

Similar services are available next door at the Tiger Tavern (don't recall the chicks name - little spinner, mid-30s who usually works from midnight to 6AM), VIP (also forget the name....usually thinking about something else when I'm there - friend of Candy's who sometimes works with her and will do threesomes with her - mid-30s, large natural chest - 'least for a Korean - loves to slap her ass and say "you like HOT anal sex?" She works from midnight to 6AM too.) Anal can sometimes be had at the Cabin too - depends on who's working. There are other places like Madrid but the "girls" there, while post-op,used to have different plumbing...

Have fun and share the reports :) Always looking for new talent that are open to some backdoor action.

Peace,

KORVET


[QUOTE=Ezinho]Brain666- Perhaps I have gone to Spy Bar too early then, as it has always been before 2:00, but usually after midnight or so. I guess I will have to check it out again after 2am.

As for JJ's in the Hyatt, I've been there once before as well with a few buddies from work but none of us were dressed appropriately, as you really need to be in a suit and tie for that place. I will have to make it out there in the near future.

Dizz Hizz- I have been to B One once before and I got the impression that it's more of a place you take a date rather than find one, but I will have to give it another try as well.

Randy O- The Sporex in the Koreana Hotel sounds like what you're looking for; it's not in Itaewon but it's not too far away since it is near the City Hall subway exit. Just what you want, nude oil massage with the optional HJ finish, but it's quite pricy (90k won, plus the entrance fee). No idea if something like this exists in the Itaewon area, there's an aroma massage place on the right side of the main street as you walk towards Noksapyeong area, but I've never been.

Which bar does this Candy work at? May I ask how much she wanted for FS?[/QUOTE]

i had not been to miari in three years because i live on the other side of seoul but last night i decided to take nostalgic trip back to my old party grounds.

i went with three of my korean friends who had never been there before. we arrived around 9:00pm on a friday night. we went by taxi which was a mistake we should have taken the subway because the traffic was terrible. detailed directions are on this board but in short just go to kiruem yeok(station) on line 4.

it was dark but once we entered the were allot of madams waiting. when i walked in front we did not get approached so i made my friends walk in the font. we were speaking in korean so the madams starting approaching my friends. i am sure they were excited at the prospect of four customers.

we checked out three houses. all of them had six to ten girls in their customary prom dresses. each of the madams told us that she had the only shop that would accept foreigners. fun since all of them said the same thing. the other common thing is that they all keeps the curtain closed. this means you have to step into their shop and get the hard sell. the best way out is to tell them you just want to look around and then you will be back.

we saw one policeman who did not show any interest in us.

the third shop we checked out seemed to specialized in big breasts, our push-up bras given my experience in the past. it was cold and we wanted to get busy so we negotiated a rate of 70,000 per person. i picked a petite girl who looked like she had big breasts.

we all went up to our room and my girl told me to take off my clothes and then left the room. she came back quickly and naked and much to my sunrise she had c+ cups size breasts that we also nice and firm. she was only 155cm tall and thin so they made her breasts look huge.

she start right in with the cat bath and then to a bbj. not a gfe but she gave good head. she asked to put the condom on and told her to suck me for longer. once i was ready to move on to fs she asked about the condom again, i asked if we could do it without the condom but she insisted. i brought my own condoms since i hate the cheap condoms they used.

she was very tight but none of the usually complaining. she let me choose different positions and did not rush me. the fun part was that one of my friends finished his girl would yell out they were done and leaving their room. i was taking my time and enjoying my tight ride. she then asked me if i was still far away and i said yes. she then told me that all my friends were done and waiting. since it was cold out and we had plans for the evening i hurried up and finished.

when i left the tapped the door and the madam made sure the coast was clear before opening the drapes and the door.

Thanks to all previous contributors. This is my 1st time in Seoul and it helped to RTF first. I had two experiences on Saturday. Here I'll describe the 1st one.

I was looking for a previous reporter's (Smma0717) favorite place. He wrote:
"Basically I followed the old best know method to go to Seoul National University of Education station (subway station #223). The BBS is very close to the exit 1 with just few hundred metres." BTW: Exit # information is really helpful because the subway stations are huge w/ many exits.

Unfortunately I made a note to myself that just said "Seoul National University", which, as it turns out, is several subway stops before the "Seoul National University of Education" stop when travelling from where I was coming from. I got off at that wrong stop thinking it was right, but quickly found that there weren't any barber poles w/in 100 metres of Exit 1. So I figured Smma0717 was a lousy judge of distance and decided to keep walking til I found some. Good thing about Seoul is the BBS are freakin' EVERYWHERE.

For anyone interested in duplicating this trip, you use Exit 1 which puts you on Nambusunhwan-ro. Keep walking til you cross one major intersection (Nakseongdae-geuri) andf 1/2 way up the block on the R is a double barber pole. Across from a Golf shop. Although not the exact location Smma0717 was talking about, it had the same kind locals-only feeling. No Westerners anywhere in sight. This was about noon on a Sat.

I went down the stairs and was met at the desk by a woman, mid 30’s, pleasant looking, in a baby-doll dress with pink hearts on it. Slightly chunky but strong and firm. No English but it didn’t seem to matter. She took me to the room. I wasn’t sure if someone else would be servicing me, but it turned out she was solo at the time and did everything. The room was small but nicely appointed. Cove lighting in the ceiling. Comfortable mattress. I paid 60. I stripped and she hung my clothes up for me.

She spread a vinyl cover on the bed and put a towel over it before I lay down, so I figured moisture was going to figure into this somehow. I lay on my stomach and she did a preliminary massage to my neck back and legs. Then she covered me with a towel and left the room. She quickly returned with a bucket of hot towels and laid them all over my back and legs. Then some heavier hot layers on top of the 1st hot towels. Then she rolled up the edges of the vinyl sheet and closed them over my back. I was essentially roasting. It was hotter than I would normally enjoy but I went with the flow and let it work on me. After about 5 minutes she came back in and removed the layers. Then she put a mint-smelling cream/oil on my back and legs and proceeded to vigorously massage me including my ass crack.



Then she took me to the shower room and washed me all over. The shower room was large (maybe 8’x8’), very clean and had a urinal in it. She left me to towel myself off and came back and dried my feet and slid a pair of long boxers on me.
Back in the room she proceeded to give me an awesome massage, including standing on my back. She was strong! She also used a large electric massager on me extensively including my ass crack, which really felt good. She asked me to turn over and repeated the attention to my front. As she got closer to my crotch she began to run her hand over my personal equipment, outside the boxers, so I figured the final act was about the start.

Sure enough she slid the boxers off and leaned over to start a BBBJ. She continued this for 2-3 minutes til I was nice and hard. I was feeling her ass and thighs and she didn’t mind. Then she stood up removed her dress but kept bra and panties on. This was a bit of a disappointment but I was curious to see what she was going to do.

She then climbed up on top of me and put my arms around her. She leaned down onto me and slid her hand down to our mutual equipment areas. Now I do not know for sure what she did next with my rod, I assume it was an excellent HJ and not BBFS, but fellas I gotta tell ya, it felt EXACTLY like BBFS. She rocked up and back and moaned in my ear and I just carried on like I was bangin her. It felt great. I was squeezing her ass and slammin away. Within a couple minutes I let it loose and she didn’t rush to get off. Let me slowly pump until I came to a restful stop. Nice.

She turned away as she got up and I didn’t see what she did with her hands. So as far as I’m concerned I got a great faux-BBFS and left happy. She dressed me, which is very sweet, gave me a cool fruit juice drink and walked me to the door. All smiles.

Sometimes adventures are best to be improvised.

Hope no ISG members is on this list, another reminder of why you should not pay with your credit card in these places. Have to wonder why this one was busted out of all the hundreds of massage shops in Seoul.
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Prosecutors arrested co-owners of a well-known brothel in Seoul’s rich Gangnam area and a middleman who bribed a law enforcement officer to avoid police crackdown, Yonhap reported Saturday.

The Seoul Central District Prosecutors' Office issued warrants for the 40-year-old woman, identified as Cho, and her business partner, a 46-year-old woman, identified as Nam, as well as a 40-year-old Zhang, who had received tens of millions of won to “lobby” the police. Cho and Nam opened a massage parlor in downtown Seoul in February 2005, which in fact offered sex service to clients. In July last year, Nam tried to bribe a police officer when her business was exposed, by offering some 30 million won.

At that time, Zhang approached Nam, telling her that he will lobby the police, and subsequently received 65 million won from her. Nam was detained by the police, but was released soon. The authorities believe that the two co-owners of the brothel, famous among clients, earned more than 10 billion won during their four-year business operation. The authorities have secured a list of clients whose figure allegedly reaches hundreds. Prosecutors plan to summon the police officer who received the bribes and expand investigation to see whether other police officers are also involved.


[url]http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/02/113_39990.html[/url]

I have to say that whenever I am offered a threesome, it usually ends up underwhelming if not a complete scam (except eden club in Thailand).

A month ago, I went to Itaewon and there was this middle aged woman with a nice rack who I agreed to (against my better judgement). she offered me a threesome with the other girl there and like a dumb ass, I said ok. turns out the other girl did a quick hand job, didn't take her top off and then I was stuck with the original woman who hurried me a long saying I got good price for threesome.

has anyone found a good one for a reasonable price? If not, I'm just gonna have to wait for Thailand again.

ehh, I had an ok threesome in Itewon last summer. Girl asked if I wanted to have her sister also, and again, like a dumbass I agreed. Think she just wanted more money ( from 100USD to 200USD). So I begin fucking the one girl and just when we finish her sister shows up. We ate dinner in the little hotel room, and I had round two with the sister. Not bad, but felt a little pressure and she started to complain a little about the time.

Still, I finished up with her and then had to get home. Overall, not bad considering it was a good three hours of service, but they didn't get involved with each other. Just sort of laid on the bed next to each other and fondled my balls while I had her sister.

More exhusting than anything, and I pulled my groin fucking number 2. Was in pain for a few days.

skip the threesome unless they agree to eat pussy. but then you have to change condoms between girls, etc. It gets to be a hassle after a while and not like in the movies or any of our fantasies.

Sfinil,

Threesomes are readily available in Itaewon (lotta anmas too) but the quality is pretty poor most of the time. Mississippi, VIP, Rosy, Cabin, Nymph, and a bunch of other places offer it but it's usually the old one chick does FS and the other gives u HJ or BJ scene.

That's not to say that u can't have a good time. Rosy's give fair service. Also there's a place cross from Mississipps - think SS or Joy - that's pretty good too. Nothing like Eden or even some good places in TJ but not bad for a change.

Cost will vary. Normally it's the cost of normal FS x2 (or however many chicks u want - most I ever did in Itaewon at once was four). Figure 100K won each. With the current exchange that's maybe $150 US total.

Have fun,

KORVET

[QUOTE=Sfinil]I have to say that whenever I am offered a threesome, it usually ends up underwhelming if not a complete scam (except eden club in Thailand).

A month ago, I went to Itaewon and there was this middle aged woman with a nice rack who I agreed to (against my better judgement). she offered me a threesome with the other girl there and like a dumb ass, I said ok. turns out the other girl did a quick hand job, didn't take her top off and then I was stuck with the original woman who hurried me a long saying I got good price for threesome.

has anyone found a good one for a reasonable price? If not, I'm just gonna have to wait for Thailand again.[/QUOTE]

Wanted to try Cool because of the variety of talent reported to be there. On the Forum I had seen the following directions: “For those who can't be bothered to RTFF it's at Baeng Baeng Sagori in Gangnam halfway between Gangnam station and Yangjae station. If you are coming from Gangnam take a left after the prudential building and its on the right about 200 meters down.”

This sounded easy to remember so I didn’t even write it down. But, when I got to Gagnam station I misremembered the directions as being between there and Yeoksam station (both on the Green line), so I spent about an hour walking up and back in that part of town, which is a major corridor of office towers. There was no Prudential building so I went up into the neighborhood on the north side of the main street, which is quite active (this was 5-6 pm on a Monday) and full of shops and restaurants. I walked a lot of the side streets and asked several locals about “Belle” and “Cool” but no one knew about them. I eventually found what looked to be an upscale Amna called “Rex” (anybody been there?) and was considering taking the 220,000 won plunge when I figured I’d make a last try to ask someone. Two prosperous-looking businessmen were smoking outside the back door of one of the office buildings. One of them immediately got on his phone, called information, but couldn’t get a # for a massage place called Belle. He tried again for Cool and got a number. He called that number for me and wrote down directions for me to give to a cabbie. I found in general that Koreans don’t usually offer unsolicited help, but if you ask they are very generous.

The cabbie ultimately dropped me at the major intersection where the Prudential Building itself is, but fortunately I had seen the sign for Cool as we drove by it and walked back up one of the big streets to it. When I got there it looked like the entrance to a parking garage and I wasn’t sure it was the right “Cool”. So I walked back into the side streets area behind it and did see 2 other massage places. One called Superman Massage (anybody tried that?) and one next to it with barber poles but signage just in Korean. I figured these would be back-ups if I couldn’t find Cool or Belle.

Walking back to main street entrance where it said “Cool”, I opened an unimpressive looking door and found an ancient woman sleeping on a cot in what looked like a sex toy shop. That was a weird visual. So I quickly closed that door but figured I was vaguely on the right track. Venturing back into the enclosed parking area I saw a stairwell with a more impressive sign for Cool and went down. There is also a small elevator down to that level. Arriving at the bottom of the stairs I was in a tiny vestibule with 2 plain doors. One had a small sign on the wall next to it saying “Cool” so I opened that but it was a janitor’s closet. I was feeling pretty stupid by this point. With nothing to lose I opened the other door and lo and behold there was a small reception desk and 2 guys. I knew I had arrived. Stepping inside I saw video monitors so I’m sure they’d been watching this Anglo moron wandering around for a while. The bigger, older guy says to me: “First time?”. Well there was no faking that, so I just nodded and tried a smile. As I took my shoes off he explained “No sex” which I expected, but then said “No blow jobs”. I couldn’t believe I heard it right so I made sure and indeed BJ’s were off the menu. So I thanked them, and asked politely if they could tell me where Belle is. The older guy looked blankly at me, but thankfully the younger guy said yes and made a map for me. It was wrong as hell of course but at least he tried.

Out on the street again I followed his map which had Belle on the same side of the street and 1 ½ blocks further up, away from the corner with the Pru bldg. Well I checked every establishment thoroughly in that span and there was nothing that even hinted at massage. I headed back towards Cool figuring I’d ask the old broad in the sex shop (that was certain to be an adventure). Waiting to cross at a light I just happened to look across the main street to my left and, like a little beacon, there was the nice big sign for Belle. Pure luck I found it and no thanks to the un-cool dudes from Cool.

Went down the stairs and buzzed in. Was met by a nice young man and, 65K later, was taken to a small room with just a curtain for a door, He told me to change into a pink robe and wait. I thought the pink robe looked like something the girl should be wearing and figured this was just one more cruel cosmic joke on this day of mis-adventures. Anyway, did as I was told and he came back and took me to the shower room. He pointedly stressed that my room is #7 so I suppose some embarrassing re-entry mistakes have happened. The bathing room is fairly large and has 2 showers and a sink/vanity with combs and a hair dryer. I wondered if they ever send 2 guys in there at once. The shower itself was spacious and had a container of toothbrushes. I cleaned everything, dried off and went back to room #7 to wait.

I sat there on the massage bed for about 15 minutes, and the music they were playing (rather loudly, no doubt to cover customers’ vociferous pleasuring) was super-insipid US 70’s pop (e.g. Carpenters). I was trying to go with the flow but my mood was not improving. I was about ready to go to the desk in my pink robe and plastic sandals and ask “WTF”, when there was a knock and a lovely Korean girl entered wearing a loose silk nightgown and panties. I was pleased. Her name is “Chee – hey” (that’s phonetic spelling). She looked early 20’s (turned out to be 29, but looks younger). Small frame, long dark hair, A cups, pretty face, sweet smile, quite good English. She was very relaxed so I let that mood dissipate my earlier anxiety and looked forward to a pleasant time.

She began with the face-down, back and leg massage and, as others have reported, did that wonderful licking thing on my legs, knees, ass and hips. That is so sensuous. And that light tickling of the scrotum is so intense! I hoped for some AR but she didn’t offer and I didn’t ask. Flipping over she eventually worked up to a very soft and gentle BBBJ. Again, no hurry and I was just lying there watching and letting it feel good. There’s nothing like watching a pretty girl move her mouth up and down on your rod. You feel like the king of the world.

After a while she applied a little lube and moved up to the HJ phase, sliding her torso near me so I could feel and suck her sweet A cups. I have a mild fetish for FOB (feasting on breasts) and I was thoroughly enjoying this part of the session. I lasted as long as I could but when the time came I just let it go and urged her to pump it like crazy, which she did with enthusiasm. Whew, that was a good one.

She cleaned me up and, unlike other places in the world I’ve mongered, where as soon as you finish, that’s it and they’re outta there, she lay back down next to me and we just talked and touched intimately for about 20 minutes. Heavenly. I now regret not having asked her to kiss me, but it didn’t occur to me at the time. Don’t know if she would’ve but the vibe was right for it.

Anyway, got dressed and hugged her goodbye. Nice memory. We all have different tastes but I’d recommend Belle to anyone who thinks this sounds like fun.

Having read several reports on the Forum that included rimming, and having never had that pleasure, I decided to go in search of it. I followed one reporter’s directions to a place near Seoul National University of Education where he had gotten AR for 100K. Directions stated 100 metres from exit. Well 100 metres from exit is a single barber pole place that I discovered is just a hot bath place. That was embarrassing. But luckily there was a young Korean guy with excellent English who explained single vs double barber poles. He went on to recommend Anmas rather than BBS. Younger, prettier girls, more willing to rim, etc. He told me that near the Ramada there are several. He wrote directions for me to give to a cabbie. I thanked him and went back up to the street.

Having come this far I still wanted to check out the reporter’s recommendation in that neighborhood so I kept going up the street and indeed there was a double barber pole in another 100 metres. I went downstairs and met the woman receptionist, Wanting to make sure not to be disappointed I was explicit in what I was looking for, pointing to my tongue and to my ass. Hell, we all know what’s for sale here and there’s no shame in getting what you want, right? Well she definitely understood and said no, none of that there. Now that may just be the official line, and some girls may do it, but I figured why not be sure.

So back up to the street, into a cab, and showed him my directions. The guy had written Anma on the paper too and recommended I ask the cabbie because they often know which ones service westerners. This guy had no clue but let me off on the major street, directly across from the Ramada and pointed down a side street. Off I went. The first even smaller side street to my left had a big sign with the unmistakable Anma letters and a butterfly on it. Anybody know that one? Well they also made it clear that they don’t do AR. So I walked around until I found 2 more, the first of which immediately said no foreigners, and the second said no rimming.

Undaunted I crossed the major street over to the Ramada because I could see another Anma sign and figured this is a likely neighborhood. That one said no foreigners but I saw two more. Since the sign for one was in English “Queen” I figured at least I wouldn’t be turned away for ethnic reasons. Woman at the desk spoke no English but quickly got a very pretty young woman who spoke some, and seemed like she wanted to do business. I was explicit with my interests and even wrote them down in English and taught her the phrases. She was happy to learn the English and said no problem with the services. I was happy!

220,000 won later she led me up the elevator to a very nice room. Probably 15’15’ and very well appointed. Big shower with a vinyl-covered table for shower massage, and a sink and a toilet. Rest of room had the big massage bed with a full-width mirror on the wall next to it. Also had a long vanity with lots of stuff on it. Plenty of room to hang clothes. Nice lighting. I figured since I’d already locked in the service package that this was gonna be great.

The woman even asked me what body style I liked. Being turned off by heifers I said “slim” just to make sure. She smiled and said to take off my clothes and wait on the bed. I did so, but kept my boxers on. Within a minute there was a knock on the door and in walks a very slender, very young Korean girl in street clothes with long dark hair. She couldn’t have been much more than 18 or 19. I’d seen lots of girls looking just like her on the subways and I admit that turned me on. Her face wasn’t the prettiest but was certainly good enough, with that little rosebud mouth and dark eyes looking up at me. I felt a bit like a perv but hey, I’d get over it.

She sat down next to me and we quickly determined that she spoke only a tiny amount of English and I spoke absolutely no Korean. That would be ok though, I figured this is her job and she knew what the customer had ordered. Well, things didn’t go that way. She looked a little scornfully at me and asked ‘American?”. I nodded. Then she made a rude noise with her mouth (like a fart), poked me in the stomach and gestured like I had big man-boobs and a huge pot belly. Which I don’t by any means. At least not by US standards. This certainly didn’t put me “in the mood for love”. I frowned, said “insult”, pointed to the door and indicated I would leave. She didn’t understand, whipped out her cell phone, conjured up a little wireless Korean-to-English translation program and told me to type in what I was saying. So I started typing with my thumbs. The light in the room was low and I was going slow while I thought of the simplest phrase, and so she then says “How old you?” with a similarly scornful attitude, like not only am I fat I’m also too old for her technology. I didn’t answer, finished typing in “You insulted me” and handed it back to her, but the program couldn’t translate it. (Not a lot of call for that phrase in Gen Y Korea, I guess). I didn’t feel like pursuing this anymore and knew I wouldn’t enjoy this chick even if she rimmed me for an hour (well, maybe then). So I got up and walked towards my clothes. She quickly called the woman who was at the front desk, exchanged some quick Korean and handed me the phone. I said this girl had insulted me and rather than dig into the details she simply said “You want to change girl?” and I said yes, handing the phone back to little miss charming. She got the news, gave a pouty look, and headed for the door. As she turned in the hallway to close the door behind her she gave me an ever-so-slightly contrite look, said something low in Korean, and gently closed the door. I was annoyed and disappointed but glad the mamasan had dealt with it quickly and decisively. Maybe this chick didn’t want this gig anyway and was looking for a way out. Or maybe the new generation just isn’t into service like older Koreans. I was just glad she was gone and hoped for better luck with whatever was going to walk thru that door next.

Within a minute I had my answer and I wasn’t unhappy. Older (maybe mid-late 20’s) and heftier but not beefy. Nice face, much more service-oriented attitude, which was #1 on my wish list at the moment. Name is Ka-hee (phonetic). Her dress made it appear like she only had A cups, but when it came off out popped a nice pair of soft, feminine B’s with lovely nips. The whole bod was beautifully proportioned, trim and firm. And an awesome ass, which I believe is pretty rare. Good stuff.

Process was similar to many other of the Anma reports on the Forum. Started with great table shower (she gave special attention to my crack so I know she had gotten her rimming orders). She carefully dried me including crouching at my feet and drying individually between my toes. I got detailed. Then the massage with that incredible licking they do. Also, since her breasts were large enough, she gently dragged her nipples all over me. Slowly but surely she worked her way up to my ass and I just lay there knowing AR was in the deal and sure enough she parted the cheeks and went at it. Mmmmm. That is nice. I had read another report on the Forum where the guy said the girl licked his ass “like she owed me money”. So, that was my mental image going into this experience, thinking I would want it real hard and wet and aggressive, really slathering that bad boy. But the unhurried, gently probing way she did it created a whole array of refined and delicate sensations, so I’m glad she did it that way for my virgin experience. Now that I know what all the noise is about I’ll def be looking for more AR in my adventures.

The rest of the session was very good. She did all the other things I had requested with enthusiasm and I finished thoroughly drained. I had signed up for the blind massage afterwards and that was a good last act. I recommend it if you have the time (about 45 minutes). After the blind masseur left the reception woman re-entered and asked if I wanted to stay and sleep. That would’ve been mellow but I declined and got dressed. She waited outside the room for me and escorted me to the exit. I let her know how much I appreciated her changing girls for me and she was gracious. In general I believe the Koreans do not like conflict and will do whatever is necessary to smooth over an uncomfortable situation. So it worked out well for all parties.
You can find the Anma “Queen” within ½ a block west of the Ramada on one of the side streets that run parallel to the main street the Ramada is on. Sign has a playing card and the word Queen in English.

based on numerous forum reports and recommendations for the glass houses, i went there twice during my recent brief stay in seoul. as reported, it’s super easy to find, within steps of the #10 exit at gireum station. just walk through the hanging colored ropes on your right. my two visits were at different times of day and as a result i had somewhat different experiences. this report is about the first one.

it was on a saturday about 5pm. this rld is in a bit of a fringe area and i was glad i’d arrived during daylight the first time i went. even before dark it does look a little blade runner-y once you step in. gloomy narrow walkways between shabby 2 and 3 story buildings with blacked-out glass sliding doors every 25 feet or so and little groups of plastic lawn chairs huddled outside. some had makeshift plastic-sheeting shelters built around the doors and portable heaters to keep the mamasans warm. from rtf i expected to have to go far into the complex to find a western-friendly establishment, but i was accosted almost immediately by an older woman, pulling on my arm and insisting i come with her. taking the forum advice not to bite on the first one i shook her off and stepped away, being polite but firm in my no thank you. three steps later i was encountered by another mamasan, and since she had clearly seen my previous successful brush-off, she literally body-wrapped me around the midsection with her surprisingly strong arms and herded me around a corner and about 30 feet up a side alley to her door. somehow she managed to slide the glass door open without loosening her linebacker grip on me and brought me through heavy dark curtains into a brightly lit, spotlessly clean room with white walls and tile floors, furnished like a studio apartment living room including a big color tv going and two little white dogs happy in their fleece doggie beds. it was literally like stepping through a plane into a completely different world. there was only one girl. she was sitting on the floor in street clothes and gave me a very nice smile. about 25, pleasant face and an appealingly curvy bod, a little chunky but not at all bad. i figured, what the hell, i’m here, let’s do this thing. i nodded to the mamasan and smiled back at the girl.
there is a tiny area to stand on inside the door that is a few inches below the rest of the main floor level, and i realized i needed to take off my shoes before going any further in. that done, the mamasan helped me get my overcoat off and, pointing to the girl, who was now standing next to me, held up 7 fingers. that sounded like the going price i had read about (70,000 won) so i peeled off seven 10k notes and handed her the stack. she recounted and nodded to the girl who took my hand and led me upstairs. looking down into the room as i went up the stairs i marveled at the incredible contrast to the outside and realized, man, i was in a really different part of the world.
the 2d floor room was small but tidy and the bed was comfortable. this experience is not about massage and a lingering gfe, but just about getting down to the business of getting you off and getting you out. which was fine with me, because i knew what to expect. she stripped quickly and nodded for me to do the same. once on the bed together she went to work with a bbbj, looking up at occasionally but mostly focused on getting me hard. after a short while she stopped and looked up at me as if to say “ready for phase 2?”. i was enjoying the blow job and was curious what else she’d do so i pointed down at my sac and made a licking motion. she went right to work with long slow licking on my sac then back to the bbbj. next time she took a break i motioned towards my brown eye and made the same licking motion, but she immediately shook her head. well, we’d established the oral dmz!
reaching over to squeeze her nice firm breasts i pulled her towards me for some nipple feasting. she cooperated fully and made some nice little moans while i had my way with her pencil tips. this was turning me on and i lay back and motioned for her to mount-up cowgirl. she produced a condom and held it out for a moment with a questioning look. i’m guessing bbfs was on the menu but i nodded and she quickly had me covered. she applied a bit of lube to her slot, then was up top and sliding me in. from there on it was show-time. not exactly “mechanical” but well practiced and professional. appropriate moans and changes of speed and rhythm, not designed for her pleasure but to get me hot and off asap. i must admit it felt damn good. i was squeezing her boobs pretty hard and twisting her nipples and she didn’t flinch. lasted as long as i could then let it rip, using her tits as handles to slam her torso down onto my upthrusts.
when i was done, she didn’t hop off immediately, but stayed on me for a while gently rocking, and leaning over me rubbing my chest and shoulders. it wasn’t for a long time but it was a nice touch. after that she pulled off, reached over and got some tissue and removed the condom, wiping me a little too. i lay still and smiled up at her, curious to see what more she might do, if anything. but it appeared that the standard glass house experience was now over. we each dressed and she walked me back down the stairs. mamasan stuck her head out the door to make sure the coast was clear while i put my shoes back on. not sure what she was looking for but appreciated her caution. she held open the curtain and nodded me out into the dark alley. there wasn’t a soul visible in either direction, so i strode back towards the ropes and out onto the street. was in a warm subway car within minutes, still feeling the afterglow. figured every korean in the subway car knew exactly what i’d been doing in gireum, but hey, that’s why it’s there, right?

since my first time had been about 5pm and forum reports say it doesn’t get really going til later i made my 2d glass house visit on a monday night about 11:30pm. and it was a very different world!

first off, whereas last time i’d been sober as a judge, this time i was at least 2 out of 3 sheets to the wind. i’d been to dinner at a cozy little place in insadong where the proprietress had enjoyed getting me smashed on this fizzy white saki-tasting alcoholic drink she kept refilling for me. and that was on top of the 24oz beers i was swilling down to cut the burn of the kimchi. so by the time i bounded up to the top of the gireum exit 10 subway stairs the way you do when you’re seriously buzzed and think you’re all-powerful, my head was whirling. then wham, i see 2 uniformed cops standing at the rld entrance, eating. having seen enough chatter on the forum about rld shakedowns i got my stride under control and just kept right on walking briskly by like i had absolutely no interest at all in banging wet korean pussy, and was just another average anglo tourist looking for a museum, yeah that’s it, in a shady part of town, close to midnight. of course the cops paid me no mind whatsoever and were probably amused that i bothered to try to act nonchalant. but having walked by those first ropes i kept passing additional roped entranceways with mamasans huddled in small groups. there must have been 5 before i reached an intersection with a small side street. “this place is huge” was all i could think. preferring to hunt my own snatch rather than get shang-hai’d by a mamasan into her lair like my 1st time, i turned right down the side street hoping to cut into the complex a back way. and indeed there was an unguarded entrance a short way down, angling in to the right.

this time there were a lot more active rooms with people milling around and small groups of convivial korean guys peering in and talking animatedly with mamasans. several mamasans i first passed had no interest in offering me an invite to their inner sanctums, but i had read on here to expect that, and kept walking deeper. soon enough one stood up to cut me off and i stopped, nodded respectfully, and waited to see what happens next. she eyed me warily for a moment, then said sternly “seventy. one time”, holding a single gnarly finger in the air. i nodded soberly as if this was god’s law being passed down, and drunk as i was, laughed to myself that this was like being in some really cheesy b movie. then she knocked twice, very sharply on the glass door, which was unexpected and snapped me to a startled attention. wtf was that about? all business now, she pulled aside the blackened glass door, motioned me to step right up the heavy dark curtain in the open doorway, and pulled it fully aside. i was completely unprepared for what i beheld.

the room was similarly sized to the one i’d been in before and just as brightly lit and sparkling clean. but instead of a department store 5 piece living room set spread across the floor, there was a wall-to-wall array of living dolls, heavily made-up with pale white skin and jet black hair, sitting totally erect on the floor in matching white gowns, the full skirts flowing together in a soft mass, and all staring, motionless directly into my eyes. i was spellbound. it’s a visual i will never forget as long as i live.

the mamasan started speaking, which somewhat broke the spell but i was still utterly entranced with this scene. she began waving her arm at the girls and speaking rapidly, i imagine exhorting their beauty and urging me to pick one. i would have liked to but they were too surreal to judge by any standards or methods i could muster. all i could do was marvel at the amazing range of human experience going on on this planet. wtf had i stepped into?

probably only a total of 5 seconds had really gone by, but it seemed like time had stood still while i absorbed this tableau. reminding myself that i came to gireum to find the hottest chick i could for straight-up sex, and realizing that if this was just the first glass house there would be many more to choose from, i started scanning the faces for a stunner that would make it easy to say yes right then and there. hard to tell for real because of all the theatrical trappings, but out of about ten girls on the floor there were, on closer scrutiny only a couple of 7’s-8’s, and i believed a hotter honey was somewhere in the complex. and besides i wanted to see more examples of this pageantry. so i said no thank you, bowed respectfully and set out in search of more anglo-tolerant houses.

i heard the door slide closed behind me as i set out deeper into the alleys. i was invited to peer into about 15 different houses over the next 20 minutes and covered a large portion of the complex. it became addicting to keep going and look into another one, then another one. some had white gowns with blazing red tops. some had black gowns and all i could think of was morticia addams. some were all hefty. most houses were far less disciplined than that first one where all the girls were perfectly erect, absolutely silent and totally still. some mamsans didn’t even knock first, just opened up and let me look into a clumsy scramble of girls trying half-heartedly to get into formation. it was comical. all the while i was keeping an increasingly keen eye out for a stunner that i could feel was worth the hunt. but the best were only ok, and i always wanted better. finally, when i believed i had been shown every car on the lot, i figured it was time to retrace my steps and see if the consistent 70k price would start getting discounted as several forum reports indicated. also it was about midnight and i was aware that the subway closes at 1am. i didn’t want to be stuck looking for a cab around there.

heading back up towards the main street i had in mind a slightly heavy girl with a pretty face that had smiled at me very sweetly in one of the last houses i’d stopped at. i’d do her i decided. nice big korean boobs to feast on and an attitude to please. well, drunk as i was, finding that house and that girl when the alleys and houses and mamasans and wedding dresses all look pretty much the same was harder than i thought. first one i went back to, nah, that wasn’t it. second one, nah. now i was getting frustrated and was thinking i’d have to re-check every bloody one when the sweet voice of commerce intervened. from up the alley i see a mamasan motioning to me and hear the phrase “sixty for you”. now the discounting had begun. opening her door for me i honestly couldn’t be sure if i’d seen this bunch already or not. it was all pretty much of a booze-addled wedding dress blur by now. but here i was looking at 3 brides, all very young, all kinda hefty, but none unattractive, so i fell to the lure of low price and pointed to the one with the biggest hooters. how’s that for the "largest common denominator"?

60k later i was in the room with her and she was out of that dress in a flash. my god she had melons! i stripped, laid back and enjoyed watching her vigorously bbbj me until i was ready for a cowgirl poke-and-feast. she offered me an option of bbfs or condom, and i truly believe she was indifferent. big head prevailed but a good time was still had by all and i feasted to my hearts content on those beaudacious gozangas before pumping out.

having also done bbs and anma on my trip (see other reports), i have to say that the glass houses are a great value for straight-up sex and otherworldly imagery.

[QUOTE=Korvet]Sfinil,

Threesomes are readily available in Itaewon (lotta anmas too) but the quality is pretty poor most of the time. Mississippi, VIP, Rosy, Cabin, Nymph, and a bunch of other places offer it but it's usually the old one chick does FS and the other gives u HJ or BJ scene.

That's not to say that u can't have a good time. Rosy's give fair service. Also there's a place cross from Mississipps - think SS or Joy - that's pretty good too. Nothing like Eden or even some good places in TJ but not bad for a change.

Cost will vary. Normally it's the cost of normal FS x2 (or however many chicks u want - most I ever did in Itaewon at once was four). Figure 100K won each. With the current exchange that's maybe $150 US total.

Have fun,

KORVET[/QUOTE]Won rate is 1530 to the dollar, so it would actually be about 70 dollars total.

[QUOTE=Bam Man]Are Koreans racist? Well yes to some degree but this is quite common throughout Asia. If you go to Japan for example, there will be establishments that take only Japanese customers. The lower end establishments will take anyone but this is quite common.

I mean hey there are golf clubs in the USA that are only open to men or caucasian men--but you don't hear people whining about that right.[/QUOTE]There sure was whining about it, that's why it doesn't happen anymore. In fact there are heritage months, college funds, associations, and all kinds of special treatment for you in the U.S. if you are not white.

BTW, did a girl who called herself Candy on Hooker hill, walking up on the left 1/2 way, last week. She had short hair and great attitude and everything else pretty good.

I've had her too as wel. I believe i paid around 70 for BBBJ, then negotiated 30 more for CFS, but being drunk I asked for anal and she actually obliged for 50k more I believe it was. 150k all in for just about everything. Much better than any 115/120 half ass massage from a cold fish. Also BBBJCIM after covered anal.

Trooper

I'm staying at the Ibis hotel in kangnam this week so I thought I'd try the local DDBs. There's a full row of them in the small street that starts just opposite the hotel right of the SK gas station. There's 3-4 massage sign near the ibis hotel / posco building, then more on the same street, in front of the intercontinental.

For starters I tried the 1st one in the street, that says massage in korean and japanese. Small place on the 3rd floor. A friendly guy waved me in and took me to a small room with a massage bed. It was 4 on a sunday afternoon so there didnt seem to be other customers. A few minutes later a girl comes by and shows me the prices. 100k won for massage + handjob. No sex on the menu, which she makes sure I understand. (kind of amusing).

Girl herself was late 20s, bit chubby, I'd say 6 body, 7 face. Spoke no english whatsoever so we made do with my broken korean. Not the best deal ever I thought but her face was kinda cute so I agreed.

She asked me if I wanted a jimjjil massage which I agreed to. Massage was quite good, just short of a true professional performance. 1st an oil massage on back and legs, foot wash and massage, then she covered me with about two dozen scalding hot, wet towels, which felt very nice at first cause I was cold, but then started to burn a little on the back of my legs. She left me under there for about 10 minutes, time to break a good sweat then climbed up to straddle me and first continued the back massage then started walking on my back and legs. I had just execised quite vigorously so that part did wonders.

After that she removed the towels, made me roll over, and on to the handjob, which was quite average with maybe too much lotion and a very detached professional attitude. My hands were free to roam and explore down her back and between her legs, but she kept her boobs covered and made it clear they were off limits. So massage 8 handjob 6.

I'll try Cool tomorrow, and then maybe an anma or another local massage place. If anybody is in seoul this weeks and wants to share some kalbi and k-gals, PM me.

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Having read Wild Wind's post I thought I would give Queen a try. Since I could see it from my hotel room at the Renaissance. Figured I would try my luck and hope for a good experience, it’s Sunday and it looked empty. For those that don't RTFF it is down a narrow one-way street near the 7-11 next to the Renaissance Hotel. Yea it’s a Marriott. It's a nice place and as Wild Wind stated it has a playing card on its sign with the English word "Queen".

Anyway. I went inside, changed out my shoes for slippers and went to the desk. The young guy at the desk never saw me until I tapped on the counter; he then called for a woman who was in the side office. The woman from the side office was very nice spoke great English and looked great btw! She looked me up and down and said 220k, not unexpected or course. I verified that it included the massage and all of the "expected" services, to which she said "yes". The young guy at the desk escorted me to the elevator and up we went to the second floor. In the room (remember to take off your slippers upon stepping up to the next level of the room) he gave a robe (more of a hospital gown, for people like myself taller then 6'0 your junk will hang out the bottom) asked me if I would like a drink (Green Tea, Coffee, water or Gatorade) and then told me to change and wait.

After about 5 minutes or so the nice woman from the front desk knocked on the door and asked me if it was okay to have the massage first. It was not what I really wanted before the deed, but hey I am easy, so the blind masseuse came and did a pretty good massage. She finished, thanked me; I think (she spoke no English) and left.

After another 5 minutes the woman from the front desk came in and asked if I could wait a few minutes for a girl to come. Maybe they where busier then they looked. Or they couldn't find a girl to take the white guy. Regardless, after about 1/2 hour of waiting in the room a very perky girl came in, very thin but overall pretty good looking. She spoke extremely fast and very little English but was pleasant enough. She stripped down and she gave me a face massage, a shave (is that normal? ) and a face mask, it was all quite nice. After that she showered me down and brought me back to the bed. She lubed herself up and did this cool sliding thing up and down my body, she then did the cat cleaning and worked up the soldier. She slipped on a cover during her BJ and tried to ride the cowboy a few times, but I guess I was too big. I get that a lot. LOL! She gave up apologizing and she sucked and jerked me off for about 15 minutes until I popped. She cleaned me up, dressed me rather quickly, hugged me and showed me out.

All in all it wasn't bad. I think if I had the massage 2nd I would have felt better and not as rushed. Not getting real FS, let alone not to completion was also disappointing. I would recommend Queen only because it's close to where I usually stay. Will I try it again. Yea probably. Would I go else where. Yes if there was another place as close. Any suggestions?

Thanks for reading and happy mongering!

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Hi there,

Just read TFF but it seems that all anma's are not located in a decent hotel? Most descriptions here contain directions to area/ metro station such and so, except one, the anma in the Imperial Palace. However, the Imperial Palace turns out to be far away from town (10KM as it says on the Asiarooms website description).

I'm actually not that confident 'shopping around', particularly since the language seems to be an issue. Also staying 10 KM out of town doesn't really appeal to me. Yet, especially after reading anmadudes report, I am definitely going to try to find a top-class anma.

No one has info on a top-class anma in a decent hotel in town somewhere?

Thx!

[QUOTE=Easy Thaiger]Won rate is 1530 to the dollar, so it would actually be about 70 dollars total.[/QUOTE]

Easy,

Actually about 1570 to the dollar today, but that's neither here nor there. The 100KW is per girl - not total. 100Kx2 girls = 200K total.

KORVET

Guys, was in Itewon this weekend (and pyongtek and songton). Walked around and tried to find a provider for a quicky about 6pm Saturday night. No luck so tried some regular bars for foriegner: Geckos, Helios, Reggae Club. All with similar results, so I tried the old Hooker Hill. Starting from the bottom to the top, I was approached within 50 feet, first little bar on the left.

"You come inside, come, come" So inside I went and only two girls there. About 5-6 scale, but one young one. Had a drink, bought one LD which she downed immediately and asked for another. So down to business and she asked for 220W! I laughed and told her 100. She then called me cheap charlie. So we compromised on 150. Ahh the games we play.

Went to a covered portion of the bar and sat on a couch and pulled the curtain. Pretty good BBBJ, and condom on and on to the sex. I asked "here?" No bed, no room? She took off her dress and started with RCG. I at this point just said fuck it, and went mish. Then doggy and then back to mish to finish. Was not bad, but I mean WTF? 150 and doing it on a couch? Maybe I am getting old and want a bed and a room.

So, I think I am done with Hooker Hill. I kind of like the An Ma and still have to try out 588 and 417. Need the massage and bath and all that. This chick just got out some baby wipes and washed my dick and herself with two cloths and that was it. I was all sweaty from walking around, not good!

With the won the way it is right now, I could care less about foriegner prices.

Met a 29 yold girl in Gekos last night a 100% Korean citicen raised in south america in Paragay and speaks perfect spanish. Had a few drinks and then we went to my apartment. Picutes to follow.

[QUOTE=Carmex]Guys, was in Itewon this weekend. So, I think I am done with Hooker Hill.[/QUOTE]LOL; sorry Mate, but you made me laugh with this one because of your previous comment to the effect of "do you stick with a good thing" or go for the strange. I've lived and mongered in Seoul for 15 years. Repeatedly having sworn off the ' ville, I always end up going back. The reason is simple. Notwithstanding the grass is greener syndrome, I always end up finding someone in the "Won" who's so far above the norm (there and across the board), that I end up working out a regular gig and sticking with it to avoid both the bullshit haggling and the uncertain outcomes of exploring new venues. BTW, my current regular is the inimitable Soo-Ae. Surprised you didn't tap that again on your latest visit. Maybe we should hook up for a tage team match with her. I think she'd be up for it.

[QUOTE=Burty]No one has info on a top-class anma in a decent hotel in town somewhere?

Thx![/QUOTE]The Imperial is not 10K out of town. It may be 10K from the old CBD north of the river, but it is right in the center of the city south of the river, between Apkujongdong/Chungdam-dong and the new southern CBD a litle further south.

An alternative in the heart of the old CBD, north of the river, may be the Koreana on Sejong-no. Its sauna at any rate used to offer the standard rub and tug - although the facilities were a little passed their use-by-date the last time I saw them (they may have been renovated recently), and the talent simialrly cannot compare with what's on offer in the Gangnma anma joints.

I went to a BBS last night, near the Seoul National University station on the green line. I can't remember the station exit but when you exit the station you want to walk to an intersection going towards Soongsil University, away from SNU. Then, make a left at the intersection and this BBS is not too far away, next to a Stay 7 Serviced Residence. Directly across the street is a bar called All That Beer, if this helps anyone find it.

The price was 80k (around $50 USD currently) and I got a massage and FS from a woman around 30 or so. She started with a foot bath and then gave a decent massage. She put some hot towels on me too. Then FS, but there wasn't room on the little massage bed for more than mish and doggie.

Overall, it was an interesting, new experience for me. Not sure if I would go back but it's nice to know they are foreigner friendly, although at least a little Korean is required I think, as the papasan who opened the door didn't seem to speak any English, and all the girl seemed to know was "handsum man". But with the exchange rate, it's not that expensive in dollars.

I will keep sticking my head (pun intended) in BBSs around the city and see what else I can find.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]LOL; sorry Mate, but you made me laugh with this one because of your previous comment to the effect of "do you stick with a good thing" or go for the strange. I've lived and mongered in Seoul for 15 years. Repeatedly having sworn off the ' ville, I always end up going back. The reason is simple. Notwithstanding the grass is greener syndrome, I always end up finding someone in the "Won" who's so far above the norm (there and across the board), that I end up working out a regular gig and sticking with it to avoid both the bullshit haggling and the uncertain outcomes of exploring new venues. BTW, my current regular is the inimitable Soo-Ae. Surprised you didn't tap that again on your latest visit. Maybe we should hook up for a tage team match with her. I think she'd be up for it.[/QUOTE]

Well, I don't know quite what to say to that. As it stands right now, I did walk by the previous venue, but the door did not automatically open when I did so I just kept on walking. Ending up of course in shitheadville, Korea. As for the double up, hmmm, maybe. Interesting. I usually only do that with a couple of close buddies, but Soo-Ae is super fine, and a great fuck at that. In fact, the only Korean I would repeat.

PM me kimchee W. as I will be in Seoul sat. night and would make it worth her while. This could be good.

[QUOTE=Carmex]PM me kimchee W. As I will be in Seoul sat. Night and would make it worth her while. This could be good.[/QUOTE]Carmex: Your note motivated me to take out a paid subscription (in order to PM) but it may not be activated for 24 hours; hence this message. If I can't PM you beforehand, why don't we meet for coffee Saturday afternoon. I'll be at the Starbucks nearest Yonsei Univ. On the main drag in Sinchon that runs between Yonsei main gate and Sinchon Station after 2:30. (In the gym across the street before that).

Anyone have any experience with calling a girl to come over to your place? I'm looking for a good (and possibly cheap) outcall option for the Gangnam area. I don't want to spend more than 200,000, but I'd really like to spend about 150,000.

Any thoughts?

Go get her at Geckos or Helios, she is a free lancer because she needs money to fly to Paraguay and then Brazil. Educated and a great provider only with comdom. 300 WON for and overnightner.

I will be in Seoul March 18 through the 25th.

Anyone in town those days/nights that would like to explore the scene?

Nothing new to report. Just another good night in Itaewon. I usually go on Wednesday nights around 10:00, so not always the best choices, but I also notice that they usually try hard because it's probably slow and maybe they have to try harder because they're not top notch. Either way, I went up the side street of hooker hill (by the way is there a name for that street with all the clubs there? I thought THAT was hooker hill, but now I think it's the main street with "What The Book" on it. Anyway,

Met up with a girl about 2/3 of the way up the hill on the left. There's a building with a few bars in it and it's the second door from the top near the top corner of the building on the left. I wish I could remember the name, but I can't. I wish I could remember HER name, but I can't. So this really isn't helpful.

But she was short, had a really big ass, short hair, glasses. Kind of an alternative look a little. Either way, if you ever notice her, try her out. She ABSOLUTELY thinks it's her job to do what you want her to do. That includes taking it as hard as I can give it to her and deep throat my dick. I've done her twice and even though she is not the prettiest, her personality and dkill is amazing. And with her HUGE ass, it was like pounding a pillow. I was on a bouncy ride and I held on as long as I could.

100, 000, 60 minutes

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[QUOTE=Sfinil]Met up with a girl about 2/3 of the way up the hill on the left. There's a building with a few bars in it and it's the second door from the top near the top corner of the building on the left. I wish I could remember the name, but I can't. I wish I could remember HER name, but I can't. So this really isn't helpful.

But she was short, had a really big ass, short hair, glasses. Kind of an alternative look a little. Either way, if you ever notice her, try her out. She ABSOLUTELY thinks it's her job to do what you want her to do. That includes taking it as hard as I can give it to her and deep throat my dick. I've done her twice and even though she is not the prettiest, her personality and dkill is amazing. And with her HUGE ass, it was like pounding a pillow. I was on a bouncy ride and I held on as long as I could.

100, 000, 60 minutes[/QUOTE]For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure you're talking about Bean or Bin (that's what she called herself when I met her). Short, short hair, sometimes wears glasses. She has a tattoo around her navel. She works in the bar next to ABC Bar, but I've forgotten the name of the bar. (Bridge, maybe?)

Hey Everyone,

I just came to Seoul about a week ago. I'm from the states and speak decent korean (enough to get around). I am currently staying in MokDong and was wondering if any of you have mongered around these parts? If you have, let me know. Would love to give a few a try and report back.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Koyangi]For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure you're talking about Bean or Bin (that's what she called herself when I met her). Short, short hair, sometimes wears glasses. She has a tattoo around her navel. She works in the bar next to ABC Bar, but I've forgotten the name of the bar. (Bridge, maybe?)[/QUOTE]That's her. And I think her bard DID start with a 'B'. Did you try her out? Anyone else had a good experience with this girl?

By the way, anyone else have any CURRENT favorites in Itaewon right now. I don't think this is a good question to RTF. I don't know what kind of turnover there is in Itaewon, but if someone had a good experience in 2007, I can't imagine that helps. Who do you recommend in Itaewon these days? I recommend this Bin or Bean girl.

[QUOTE=Sfinil]T

By the way, anyone else have any CURRENT favorites in Itaewon right now. I don't think this is a good question to RTF. I don't know what kind of turnover there is in Itaewon, but if someone had a good experience in 2007, I can't imagine that helps. Who do you recommend in Itaewon these days? I recommend this Bin or Bean girl.[/QUOTE]Soo-Ae @ Peach Phuzz (pink sign straight up the Hill from Itaewon High Street on the right, near the top about 20 yards below the small parking lot and above the clutch of tranny bars) is the current cream of the crop. Not for bargain hunters, but this relatively high-priced spread is more than worth the premium. A great fuck and a winning personality.

BTW, watch for an influx of new talent as the recession sets in. I've already noticed some new faces, mostly just tending bar, so far, who've shown up after having lost their jobs in the above-ground economy. Based on past experience (i.e., the aftermath of the '97 financial crisis) there will be a lot more choices in the near future, and they will be fresher and less aggressively avaricious than the usual passed their use-by-date veteran mattress backs in the 'ville.

Hey Korea Mongers, I'm a Japan-based monger who is coming to Korea next week on business. I'll have about a day to myself. So here's my question. I've been RTFF but many of the posts are very dated.

If it comes down to it I'll go to Itaewon or one of the other areas mentioned here already, but I'd much rather have a freebie. The only problem is that my one day to myself will be Sunday - so I'm thinking not much of a nightclub scene. Do you guys know of any way I can meet up with a girl for just a day?

Also, I'm African-American, if that factors into my mongering experience at all. Thanks, and sorry if I am asking something repetitive.

A couple of standbys:

Candy - Rosy's - threesome and anal friendly - great body and attitude - can be a gold digger if u let her

Miya - Used to be at Fantasy, now across the alley - ok with threesomes but lackluster, ok with anal play but reluctant for much more, best bbbjcim in Itaewon - never more than 80K for FS; best bang for buck in town

Mandy - VIP (sometimes Rosys too) - will do threesomes w/Candy - anal friendly - good body and face but, like Candy, can come across like a shark if u don't know her...likes to be spanked

Ambrosia chick - don't know named but must have done her a dozen times - think she's the only one there. Works alone - into anal play - never tested the waters to completion though. Always good for multiple pops. Usually <100K - great attitude, good body, good value.

Soo Ae (sp) - Peach Fuzz chick - high energy chick; she offered anal once but we never got to it...drained in 10 minutes (which is pretty unusual 4 me). Recommended....but.....not in my regular rotation....too hard to keep up with her :)

Cabin Mamasan- ok...I know she's like 48 and 25 lbs overweight - a great MILF experience though. Good bj skills, very energetic fs, reluctant but will do anal if she knows u - wild time....cries and shakes but keeps telling u to hit it harder. Looks = 3.5, attitude = 10.5....but a big time shark in the bar...will suck u for everything if she can...away is open to multiple pops; hit it as a freebie several times.

Joy (or maybe SS) - tall, thin, model looking chick...think she's the only one there regularly (although she'll call in a random partnet if u want a threesome). About 100-120K - trophy chick - good quality, great looks, never tried anal but would like to...just never get around to it - FS distracts me... :)

Texas chick relativley tall, thin spinner - works late night (think she's the only one after midnight). Good looks - 10+ attitude. Never asked about threesomes but girl is hard into anal and ATM. A little pricey - usually pay 300K for two pops, including anal and bbbjcim to finish the show.

Look forward to everyone else's favorites.

Peace,

KORVET

First report; least I can do in return for all the valuable information I've gotten from this board.

Found myself in Seoul for a couple of days for the first time ever and decided to check out the talent while I was in town. I saw Schaf29's report on his Anma experience around Seolleung station and figured it was close enough to my hotel (just 1 stop) that I should give it a whirl.

Made it to Seolleung station, found Exit 10 without trouble and followed directions to the alleyway. But no sign of a Call Anma. Walked around a little bit and discovered that there were 2 Anma joints along that street. Neither had any English wording on them so I decided to pick one at random and see if they would accept some foreigner business. Ended up going with the more traditional looking one.- old-looking stone building with a large parking lot in front and the normal car wash style flaps in the entryway (it's on the left side of the street if you're coming in from the end that Schaf recommended). Went into the reception area, and was greeted by several bowing staff members and a couple of people at the counter. One of the women at the counter spoke passable English and informed me that the session would be 190, 000 and would include sex and a massage. 190, 000 sounded pretty rich, but I figured what the hell, I'm probably never going to be in Seoul again, so I took the plunge. Besides, the lady at the counter promised that she would try to find someone who spoke English for me, and I'm a sucker for communication.

Standard drill.- led up the stairs by the attendant to the second floor, another attendant opened the door (which had a huge lock on it.- first line of defense against possible crackdowns? ) and brought me to a small room. He knocked on the door, and a girl opened it. Classic Korean beauty.- high cheekbones, tallish, good figure. I could see how she would be attractive to some people but I admit I was a bit disappointed, with Asian women I like a more Chinese look. Disappointment compounded when it quickly became clear that she spoke next to no English, so I resigned myself to an uninspiring fuck, which was pretty much how it turned out, other than for one interesting twist which I'll go into below.

Room was much as Schaf29 described, with separate bathroom containing jacuzzi, shower area and massage bed. Fairly standard procedure: she had me undress, took off her clothes, showered me down and then let me soak in the jacuzzi for a bit (with a face mask) while she prepared herself for what was coming. Then up on the massage bed, slippery massage with breasts and pussy, second shower down and to bed. She started the catbath routine which I generally enjoy, but again strictly professional: no DFK, functional moaning (fake, but fortunately not over the top), etc.

Then something interesting happened. Just as she finished doing her catbath.- and before she had even started the BJ I was expecting.- she went to the phone and dialed a number. Seeing me looking at her questioningly, she said "event girl" and came back to the bed. I thought I had misheard, so I asked her a couple more times what had happened, and each time she said "event girl" and motioned to indicate that someone was coming. I didn't understand what she was talking about, so I assumed that she meant either that she had called the receptionist to tell me something, or that she had gotten tired of me and was calling in a replacement. Neither of those prospects sounded terrible to me so I waited to see what was coming next.

About 30 seconds later, there was a knock on the door and another girl came in, dressed in a pink robe and a mardi gras style mask. She took off the robe to reveal a matching red bustiere with no panties, but left the mask on. I couldn't see her whole face, but what I saw through the mask and the rest of her body made it easy to conclude that my "event girl" was MUCH better looking than my original provider. "Event girl" smiled at me (what a smile! ), climbed onto the bed, used her mouth to put a condom on me and started sucking me off while my original provider started licking at my nipples. After a decent interval, "event girl" finished sucking me off and started fucking me cowgirl style. Original provider still hard at work on my chest.

Now things were getting interesting! But whenever I tried to touch "event girl" my provider gently but firmly swatted my hand away and told me I wasn't allowed. It was a pretty surreal experience, and I was getting two girls for what I had thought was the price of just one, so I followed instructions, but I thought it was interesting that that "event girl" never once indicated that I was crossing a line. On the contrary, she kept smiling at me throughout the act (did I mention that she had a terrific smile? ).

After a few minutes of this, "event girl" pulled off, stood up, smiled goodbye and left the room. My original provider then proceeded with the rest of the drill.- CBJ, FS first in cowgirl and then finishing in mish. As I said, the experience with her was pretty mechanical.- competent, but completely GFE-less. After we were done and while I was showering, I tried to ask my provider how the "event girl" system worked. She seemed to be trying to tell me that the "event girl" basically visited every customer unless the customer specifically asked that she not show up. Sounds like a tough job to have to do; I hope they rotate the role a bit, especially because I think that "event girl" would be a great primary provider!

After the hour was up, I went in for my blind massage, got the standard pummeling and squeezing and then went home. On my way out, the English-speaking receptionist asked me how it went and I told her I thought the event girl was great but that my actual provider was only so-so. She smiled but didn't otherwise say anything, and I didn't want to get my provider into trouble (she was pleasant enough, and might have been a lot better if I'd been able to speak Korean.- once I realized she was going to be just about incapable of talking to me I didn't put in much effort myself), so I left it at that and went home.

Overall:

Original provider.

Face: 6 (probably an 8 if you like Korean features)

Body: 7

Attitude: 5

Event Girl.

Face: 8. 5 (from what I could tell)

Body: 8

Attitude: 9 (but only for that short period)

WIR: Maybe, if I could figure out how to book the event girl.

For 190, 000, I'd say it wasn't the greatest deal, but for a one-time experience in Korea and with the "event girl", I'm not sorry I spent the money. Korean speakers and cosplay fans might have a better experience though, so there it is in case anyone wants to try it out.

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I guess inquiring minds want to know; anyway, I received a private request for a detailed justification of my previous description of Peach Phuzz's Soo-Ae as the current "cream of the crop" in Itaewon and a "great fuck and a winning personality". I guess I can also elucidate why Korvett described her as "high energy". So here'a an account of one of my most recent encounters with her.

I got the the bar about 7:00; when I can I usually go early since I like the MLYLT experience and don't care to be interrupted by some other wannabee pounding on the door to get in. Soo-Ae often obliges by turning off the outside sign to discourage other would-be players.

Upon entry she showed me the new white leatherette fold out couch she's brought in as an alternative to the built in cubby hole characteristic of the 'ville juicy bars. This essentially turns the entire bar into a playpen, which works because she generally works alone, so there's not another girl there (pissed off because you're ruining her chance for action), unless you want there to be, in which case it's not a problem. Soo-Ae is quite open to multiples (2, 3 girl and more), if you've got the need and stamina (But why?.see below).

For starters we settled in at the bar for a couple of drinks. She likes red wine and quickly gets mellow, comfortable and increasingly uninhibited as the sauce hits. Drinks thus lead quickly into real GFE fondling, DFK, mutual undressing and genital play. We both like to prolong it, so we probably were at it for 15-20 minutes, before she dropped down into a crouch and went for a BBBJ while I sat on a high bar stool. I let her take the initiative in the beginning because it's exciting and gives her a chance to really get into it at her pace, so that I can take charge when the heavy pounding begins and she just surrenders to the moment.

Her BJ technique (s) are varied, she's VERY good at it. Perhaps the best I've had in nearly 40 years of sex. And she knows I like it, so she had at it for another twenty minutes. She seems to love sucking cock, and it's clear that she gets off being in charge so I let her keep steering the action; the payoff is the thrill of not knowing what's coming but knowing that it's going to be good, because she rewards you for giving her the reins. No disappointment there, as the BBBJ quickly became a medley, including teabagging, rimming and an anal finger fuck. All accompanied by constant hand stroking of my cock. I repaid the attention by munching on her sweet pussy. Probably a good 15 minutes of cocksucking interrupted only by occassional breathers for her while I gave some attention to her soft C cup breasts and their stiff nipples; her breats are big and soft enough to push them together and take both nipplesin your mouth at the same time, and she loves it, whimpering with pleasure.

By now, we were both ready to fuck. Again I let her take the lead. There's something very exciting about knowing a girl wants it enough and knows what she wants enough to go for it without being pushed. In Soo-Ae's case what she wanted first that night was reverse cow girl, so I leaned back and watched in delight and with growing anticipation as she bent over to show me her ****, slowly spread her pussy lips and then very slowly backed it onto my cock until settling on it with a gasp as her very tight pussy swallowed its entire length.- all the while looking back over her shoulder with a fetching look of sexual abandonment.

We worked that mojo for 10-15 minutes, then switched to std. Cowgirl Hard to choose between them. Reverse provides a thrilling view of the curve of her lovely ass into her incredibly tiny waist, while the front view affords a similar view of the curve of her figure from that tiny waist up to her breasts and access to the same, not to mention the excitement of seeing the excitement on her face as she bounces away on the bucking bronco.

After another 10 minutes of that, she was "ready". Slid off my dick, lay down on her back, spread her legs, opened her pussy lips with her fingers and said "Fuck me". She has a slightly husky voice that gets huskier in the throes of pasion, and the voice alone would be enough to elicit one's compliance with the request to fuck her even without the warm-up. I thought that's what we had been doing, but quickly realized that until that point, she had been fucking me and now wanted her reward. Which was a solid thirty minutes of mish and doggy pounding with occassional PTM that elicited every once of testosterone driven aggressiveness that had been building up while she was in charge earlier. Smart girl.

I'm a big fan of vaginal completion. As long as it's not inside a raincoat. When that's not available, I go for oral/facial. Soo-Ae was more than willing to oblige. After she had had as many orgasms as she wanted, she took me in her mouth again and didn't complain. Indeed, welcomed the insistent visitor. As I prolonged matters for another fifteen minutes. (Did I mention that I like the long time experience and that I especially like the long time cocksucing experience? )) Finally, I let her make me come in her mouth, pulling out in time to shoot a couple of streams onto her lovely lips and face.

Afterwards, we relaxed and chatted for awhile with a couple more drinks until we both recovered a bit. Did I say I like blowjobs? ) Then, with no prodding from me other than the sight of my reawakened dick, she went for another BBBJCIM. After that, I was well and truly DRAINED, but already looking forward to our nest meeting as I stumbled out to my car and the trip home.

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Yeah - that's the girl :) Thanks for a great report...just about made me cut out of work for a trip to the ville... :) She's one of the best players in the game today.

Thanks again,

KORVET

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]I guess inquiring minds want to know; anyway, I received a private request for a detailed justification of my previous description of Peach Phuzz's Soo-Ae as the current "cream of the crop" in Itaewon and a "great fuck and a winning personality". I guess I can also elucidate why Korvett described her as "high energy". So here'a an account of one of my most recent encounters with her....

[QUOTE=KORVET] Miya - Used to be at Fantasy, now across the alley - ok with threesomes but lackluster, ok with anal play but reluctant for much more, best bbbjcim in Itaewon - never more than 80K for FS; best bang for buck in town.

I thought Miya was only playing the mama as I heard rumor she was going to marry and when I was there insisted I be with the other girl.

To KW:

Dude that sounds interesting, and she very well may enjoy the act of sex, but i don't know if she "gets off" doing all those things. I mean how can she if she sees someone else 10 minutes after doing you?

I mean she's a prostitute bro, she's paid to act like that so you keep coming back...

But you're writing skills are top...look forward to more

She's still in the game - at least as of a month ago. Miya's a funny chick - she is playing the mama-san thing to an extent but she's still very much into having her own fun. She did ask me the time before last to do her worker....I obliged...then about 15 minutes into it (with her watching from the foot of the bed) she told her girl "ok...you've had your fun.....my turn now.....45 minutes of GFE followed.

[QUOTE=Taloha][QUOTE=KORVET] Miya - Used to be at Fantasy, now across the alley - ok with threesomes but lackluster, ok with anal play but reluctant for much more, best bbbjcim in Itaewon - never more than 80K for FS; best bang for buck in town.

I thought Miya was only playing the mama as I heard rumor she was going to marry and when I was there insisted I be with the other girl.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your evident concern about my perceptual acuity.

Seriously, while I'm sure she could be the proper barracuda with someone who deserved to be treated as such, that's not her usual modus operandi; for one thing she's still pretty new to the game (just about a year) and, while business-like, just isn't as aggressively fixated as many of the oldtimers on draining your wallet as well as your balls (as compared to giving good service for a fair price (which, as I've said before, in her case is at (IMHO) a justifiable premium to the prevailing 'ville market)).

Likewise, I'm sure that she's more than capable of giving a Meg Ryan performance for a regular john, because it's part of the job description, regardless of what she really feels.

Occasionally, though, working girls want to and do enjoy themselves, if the circumstances are right. (There's another whole story related to that topic about the saunas and afterhours boy toy clubs that cater to Seoul's working girls).

Does she "get off" on what we do? Those weren't my words, but yours. I said she gets into it, which may not seem like a big difference, but in any event I think my judgment is more than substantiated by her taking the initiative about a lot of things you'd otherwise have to press and bargain for. And, in any case, believe it or not, I can tell the difference between real enjoyment and a performance (good, middling or bad).

Sorry, man, I guess you just had to be there.

Anyway, I count myself lucky that I can reciprocate the enjoyment I get (and believe me it also has resulted in some privileges); I don't kid myself that I've got an LTR here.

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I have a short layover in Seoul next week (12 hours) and am looking for a recommendation. I usually like to look around myself, but as this is my first time in Seoul I don't have time to waste and want to find the right place on my first try.

What I want is : shower / bath followed by good hot towels and a massage, then finish off with a HJ. I'm not looking for FS and want the whole thing to last at least an hour.

I will be staying between Miasamgeori and Korea Univ. All advice welcome, and I'll post a report when I get back.

Don't know much about the neighborhood where you will be located - except that the Miari glass house district is within (long) walking distance. Not much chance of a guided shower/bath there though. For that, especially given your time frame, the best bets are some the anma mentioned in other reports or the sauna at the Koreana Hotel downtown and the Hotel across the street from it in front of the Best Western New Seoul Hotel. Haven't been in quite a while, but hard to imagine that the standard post sauna hot towel massage and rub and tug isn't still on offer.

[QUOTE=Jas1326]I have a short layover in Seoul next week (12 hours) and am looking for a recommendation. I usually like to look around myself, but as this is my first time in Seoul I don't have time to waste and want to find the right place on my first try.

What I want is : shower / bath followed by good hot towels and a massage, then finish off with a HJ. I'm not looking for FS and want the whole thing to last at least an hour.

I will be staying between Miasamgeori and Korea Univ. All advice welcome, and I'll post a report when I get back.[/QUOTE]

I got that service package in Report #4341 - short walk from a subway station.

[QUOTE]given your time frame, the best bets are some the anma mentioned in other reports or the sauna at the Koreana Hotel downtown and the Hotel across the street from it in front of the Best Western New Seoul Hotel.[/QUOTE]The Hotel across from the Koreana I had in mind is the New Kukje.

So I read with interest KORVET's mention of a [QUOTE] relatively tall, thin spinner. Good looks. 10+ attitude. Hard into anal and ATM.[/QUOTE] and decided to check it out.

As mentioned before I'm an early starter, and my first outing drew a blank, as the bar. Texas. Wasn't open at 7:30, nor at 10: 30 when I checked back after having another session with my current favorite Soo-ae.

Got another opportunity a week later when I introduced an out of town visitor to the 'ville, and ended up prowling the hill after he found something to hook into on his own. Walking by Texas the door opened and there was some stop action on both my and the girl's as we simultaneously realized we knew one another. She is none other than Mindy, formerly of Ambrosia, who left the life at least two and maybe as long as three years ago. She's now back after gotten no joy in a legitimate business venture she tried to start.

And a welcome re-entrant she is for, as KORVET accurately reports she's got a 10+ attitude with a lean, long-legged body that she's willing to put to work to please you every which way. Facially, she's no conventional beauty, nor even particularly pretty, but with her war paint on she's got that high cheek-boned, pouting-mouthed almost "cruel" look of a Japanese working girl from a 19th century woodblock print. And she's not shy about talking dirty, both to wind you up and to keep you motivated (as if you really needed it, give everything else. See below). Her opener, when I asked what name she’s using now, was "Doumi". The Korean word for the female guides, hostesses, etc, who work everything from high end corporate receptions to auto races to the opening of a neighborhood restaurant. But "I pronounce it 'DO me'" she said.

With the memory of our last meeting suddenly fresh in mind. A six hour marathon with some pinch-hitting from two other girls. I told her that's just what I planned and walked in the door.

Before I could make my next move, she quickly asked if I wanted to see her decked out in lingerie or a school girl outfit (more like a uniform from the ****’s high school of suck and fuck than anything remotely resembling the typical Japanese school uniform fetish, as it later turned out. I opted for the lingerie, and she disappeared around a screen to emerge a couple of minutes in a stunning garter belt and seamed stocking, g-string ensemble that, coming on top of very high heels dramatically accentuated her long, perfectly shaped legs. On top she had a matching under-wired demi bra that pushed her relatively small B-cup breasts and pert nipples up and out quite enticingly. Before I could regain sufficient motor control of my jaw to close my gum-smacked mouth, she proceeded to do a brief ultra-sexy posing routine that ended with her sinking to her knees in front of the couch on which I was sitting and swallowing my cock whole.

After about 30 minutes of expert cocksucking, including extended episodes of deep-throating and gagging, it was time for the main events. Before commencing, though, I let Mindy have a breather, of which she took advantage to change into another eye-popping lingerie set. When she was ready we had a full thirty minutes of straight hard fucking in a half-dozen positions, then another 15 minutes of anal, in the course of each of which breaks were taken only for bouts of PTM and ATM.

The finish was preceded by another change of costume – into the school girl from slutsville high outfit—and commenced with a very lengthy and stimulating round of her rimming and-tongue penetrating my ass while stroking my cock until it was time for the clouds and the thunderstorm, for which I turned around and sprayed down her throat and across her face and breasts.

That was a reunion to remember.

Go get her at "Texas", about halfway up Hooker Hill on the left hand side.

The only thing not on the menu seems to be DP, an inquiry about the same elicited the response: "I'm not a porn actress". LOL

Forgot to mention her offer to take a full body and oral GS (which would have required moving offsite to a hotel with a bathtub or large enough shower room). Not my cuppa', but I think she'd be more than happy to return the favor, too. Another offer, also not in my repertoire, was a threesome with an anlally wide-open but uncut TV.

It's either Halfheimer's or just a garden variety of sex addled brain, but I also should have mentioned not to bother looking for Mindy before 11 PM.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]The Hotel across from the Koreana I had in mind is the New Kukje.[/QUOTE]
I went to the New Kukje today because I wanted to check out the sauna there, but it wasn't open. Not sure if it's because today is Sunday or what but it was closed. If anyone wants to check for themselves, it's located on the third floor of the hotel. I ended up going to the Sporex at the Koreana hotel instead and got a fantastic massage from a hot college-aged girl. The highlight of the massage was kneading her ass cheeks while she gasped at the amount of jizz I produced. Pricey, but fun!
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Another offer, also not in my repertoire, was a threesome with an anlally wide-open but uncut TV.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps my biggest complaint about The Hill; I'm not convinced that all of the "girls" that work there are really girls. Some of them at the top I just feel something is not right about them, they just look too...I don't know, strange? I think the places at the bottom are ok though, (Eve Bar, VIP, etc) but maybe that's just because I've been to those places and spent money there!

Thanks for the updates on the New Kukje and Koreana saunas.

As for the other, Madrid and one of the places next to it on the Hill are denizened by fully replumbed TVs. Guess that makes them TSs. The Madrid "girl" is a wild squirter. Otherwise, the real TV action is back down the Hill and across the street at the corner. Obvious from the names of the bars, which all have variations of "Trans" in their names in Hangul or English.

I believe this is the girl that Korvet mentioned in his post about Itaewon favs.

I got to the Hill kind of early. Some shops weren't open yet, only a few were with slim pickings. I really wanted to try out Soo Ae at Peach Phuzz, so I just wandered around trying to kill time. At Ambrosia, a girl called out to me - she looked pretty good. Nice body, not rail thin but not fat either. I figured I could kill some time there at least, and if Peach Phuzz never opened just go here, so I went in.

The girl introduced herself as "Stella". Enthusiastically offered to show me a great time, rubbing my crotch as she said so. She offered FS for 200,000W - I told her I only had 150,000W on me (sort of true...that was all I was willing to spend on her) and she said that was fine. I told her that I was waiting for a friend and had to go in 5 minutes (I wanted to check on Peach Phuzz), but she refused to let me outside. I had to plead with her to let me go, promising that I'd be back in 5 minutes if I didn't find my friend. She wouldn't even let me do that, I had to buy her a 20,000W drink in good faith.

I went outside and checked on Peach - still nothing. Couldn't wait forever, so I went back to Ambrosia. Stella had already finished her drink. She thanked me for coming back, prompted me to remove my clothes as she did the same. She asked for the 150,000W, but I told her I only had 130,000W - I had 150,000W before the drink, so now 130,000W. She laughed about this and accepted it, plus a few extra 1,000W notes she saw in my wallet and asked me for.

She started out with CBJ and then quickly went to reverse cowgirl. We switched to doggy for awhile, then went into mish. It was all kind of mechanical, and from mish she started to prod me to finish. I hate getting rushed, so that plus how mechanical it was really took it out of me. I knew I wasn't going to pop, so I just pretended that I did and finished up.

Korvet said that she had a great attitude, and from what I initially saw I'd be inclined to agree. I may have messed things up for myself by my reluctance at the beginning, and the bargain hunting. I would pay her another visit if I'm ever in the neighborhood again.

After finishing up with Stella at Ambrosia, I was still wanting to monger, and still curious about Soo Ae. It was a bit before 7:30, so I tried wandering around the Hill for a bit, until I finally saw the Peach Phuzz sign light up a little after 7:30. I went, and there was a gorgeous Korean woman inside - she was wearing a sweater and jeans. She said she'd just opened up and hadn't changed into her working clothes. I actually liked this better though. She introduced herself as Soo Ae - bingo!

Soo Ae led me to a small room with a couch. She asked me to buy her a regular drink, to which I obliged. We chatted for a bit, and then she asked me to buy her a bottle of wine. I figured this was starting to rack up the expenses, but I agreed anyway. She took a bottle of wine out from the bar, left it there, and would frequently go back to fill her glass up.

Buying the wine bottle gave me the privilege of seeing her naked. She undressed in a half-strip tease, half shy-girl routine, which was incredibly hot. She has an amazing body and is just beautiful overall. She asked me to remove my shirt, and after doing so she licked my chest. I told her that we were going to play fair, so I sucked on her breasts in return. She then asked me to remove my pants, and after some ball play she gave me a light BBBJ. Again, fair play and all, so I returned the favor with DATY. She really did seem to be enjoying herself. She stopped me before she could get too carried away though. She had me lay on the couch, and she got on top of me.

Now we were going to get down to business, but before that she wanted to talk about pricing. Never a good sign. She offered long and short time - long time would be 700,000W, short would be 500,000W. Wow! I told her short, and she tried to sell me on long many times before finally accepting it. When she did, she came back with the calculation for everything, including drinks - 650,000W. I really honestly didn't have that much on me. For about 15 or 20 minutes, she tried everything she could to get as much cash out of me as possible. I think the final amount I forked over was around 350,000W. Despite falling short of her asking price, she eventually accepted it, and I noted that it was still much higher than any other place on the Hill.

By this time, the "mood" had long since passed - more than the high price, I wasn't really happy with her trying to suck as much cash out of me as possible. I wasn't being cheap, I literally just did not have that much on me. She'd spotted credit cards in my wallet and had been more or less begging me to use them.

Nevertheless, after payment she got right back into it, and I decided that being angry wasn't worth souring the 350,000W I'd already spent on her. She got me back going with a CBJ, then we had FS in a variety of positions. Very GFE like, very intense. I got off a pretty good pop.

While she is a great experience, I dunno if she's worth the price she asks for - I would consider going back, but only if she didn't try to squeeze every cent out of me again.

So, let's get a little discussion out there. Best Korean Mongering options. There must be pros and cons about all. For me?

Itaewon: usually better service, but also more expensive. I go on week nights, so not a lot of clock watching. 100, 000 30-45 minutes

Yongsan: Cheaper, but ST is ST. I pay 70, 000 and then I'm always being hurried. My last time I had to pay 30 extra to get 5 more minutes out of her so I could finish. I like to do what I do. Don't rush me.

Oh Pal Pal: Been once. Couldn't get served by anyone except a 40 year old Ajuma in a sweatshirt (still can't believe I agreed to that). 30, 000 + 20, 000 extra, 15 min

Glass Houses: Went for the first time last night. Got anxious and picked the first girl I saw, but she was the kind of girl I was looking for and I jumped. Had a good time. Never told me to hurry. Let me try a few different positions. Had real hair, not extensions, so I could pull it ok. Not bad at all. After, walked around and saw other women. It looked like a good place. But it's far from me in Gangnam

Anma: Too expensive for me. Don't like to pay more than 100, 000

BBS: Never been, anyone know good BBS in Gangnam?

Any thoughts?

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Azure/Kimchi,

Glad to see everyone sampling the fare of the ville & reporting on it :)

Soo Ae and Stella:

The Soo Ae report sounds on target, although the prices are pretty high. She's not for the light walleted but I've usually been able to hit it for 140K. She has started with some way out prices (then again most of the chicks worth anything - and a few worth almost nothing - do the same). I play it hard but friendly and am not adverse to walking in mid-BJ if the price remains in the stratosphere (for me 100K is good for normal FS/BBBJ service, 130-150K for a premium FS/BBBJ hottie, and 200-300K for a porn star experience...e.g. ATM and such). Still sounds like you had a good time. She's a quality girl.

On to Stella -

Prices sound about right although I never recall her name...despite having done her 15 or 20 times. She'll usually ask for 200K then drop immediatly to 140-150K. I usually do a double session with her - 200K total....two to three pops. I suspect Stella is the chick I've done there. Nice ass...always has a big smile....slightly goofy (in a good way)...and small tits....not exactly A cup but pretty close. She's also big into anal play - both giving and taking. Real big into kissing as well.

On Mindy (wish I was at the moment...) -

Glad to have played a small part in a happy reunion :) Thanks for the great report btw - really well done. It shows that the Hill offers a lot more than vanilla 1-2-3 sex. Your description of her looks was spot on too: sharp, nice body...Mandy is a fav - super intelligent lady too. The "porn star" line made me laugh. It reminded me of a line from Candy who works next door, at Rosys. When a buddy of mine and I asked her about a DP she said "Sure! If a girl can do it in a porn movie, I can do it too!"

Cabin Mini-Report:

Stopped by there last week for a late night adventure...around 2AM. Three girls working plus Ms. Lee, the mama-san (who is available for those looking for a MILF adventure). Hooked up for a threesome with Choy and Jane. Choy left the won about 4 years ago and just got back. She's a real adventure. Sometimes mistaken at a distance for a TS because she's gigantic (played on the Korean national volly ball team way back). For those who care, the original plumbing is female. She's about 6 feet tall...maybe a bit more. Full ass - smallish B's but with great eraser sized nipples. Her partner was Jane - a Korean chick recenty back from working in a non-"working" job in Thailand. She's older - maybe 36; fair body and full natural Bs to Cs. Best thing about her was her attitude - very much into enjoying herself. Experince was pretty good. Cost was about 300K total plus a drink for each. FS and BJ with both. About a minute of anal with Choy before she turned into jello. FS pop in Jane followed about 15 minutes later with a BBBJCIM, also with Jane. Light bi-action. The girls played with each other's tits, did a little nipple sucking, kissed hard once and light a few times.

TS/TV -
As noted, there are a few post-ops on the Hill. The Madrid has specialized in that for the last five or six years. Not my cup of tea although I did have a fun time a couple years ago with the then owner of the Madrid (100% female) and one of her altered workers.

Enjoy :)

KORVET



[QUOTE=Azure Knight]I believe this is the girl that Korvet mentioned in his post about Itaewon favs.

I got to the Hill kind of early. Some shops weren't open yet, only a few were with slim pickings. I really wanted to try out Soo Ae at Peach Phuzz, so I just wandered around trying to kill time. At Ambrosia, a girl called out to me - she looked pretty good....

A few of you seem to have the "hill" mapped out.

I have become intrigued with the MILF experience. Is the "Cabin" the bar that is directly across from that hotel/motel 3/4 of the way up hooker hill? How old is Ms. Lee? For those of you that have tried her, Is she fairly open to getting down and dirty or is she a starfish?

Are there any other milfs that work the area that anyone has tried and could recommend?

Just out of curiosity, who is the thinnest, fattest, and oldest of the workers in the Hill area. Fine reports of late. Keep it up.

Cabin is not on hooker hill per se, but on the street heading up from Itaewon High Street off which Hooker Hill runs up on the left just past the convenience store (7/11? ) just in from the intersection. Cabin is near the top of the street, just past the Moulin Rouge on the left hand side and more or less across (but a little higher up) from Nymph, Ing and Peach Phuzz. Generally has older girls who move around quite frequently, some often having come back from Japan, and who are often among the most uninhibited in the 'ville (although Mindy at Texas, the post-op now at Madrid and Candy at Rosys, I'd have to say, are the current "pornstars" in action on the Hill (broadly conceived).

Having rung Soo-Ae's praises, I was sorry to read of your ambivalent encounter. You don't sound as though you warrant the barracuda treatment, but I'm not entirely sure that's what you got. For one thing, IMHO, I think you made a bit of a misstep by springing for the bottle of wine, apparently before fixing the price (especially since I suspect it was the second of the two bottles I brought to Peach Phuzz with me the night before). Given that opening, any girl with half a brain is going to go for the Cafe d'Paris mark-up. As for her importuning you for a big number, it occurs to me that's because 3/25 is settlement day at the local banks for interest and principal payment days, and she may have been running short of making the monthly nut on the debt that drove her into the game. Anyway, with a girl of her quality, I always find it works out better to give 'them something in the ballpark they ask and make settlement at the outset. Usually, that approach ends up limiting the bargaining to the front end and minimizing its mood-busting potential (a very important consideration for me, for which I'm willing to pay a bonus) and usually gets me more time and a better experience; if it doesn't, I just don't go back and, since, (like Korvet, I suspect) I go often and have got a profile among the girls in the 'ville, they know they've fucked up and lost an opportunity (which sometimes creates new ones for me. Anyway, that's the route I first went with Soo-ae, and it elicited a complete unconcern with the clock. In fact about 2. 5 hours of service instead of 1, after which more probably could have been had but for the fact that I was 3 pops done. And the best GFE I've ever gotten in a P4P situation. In the end, I in effect got a substantial discount on her asking hourly rate with the rest as a "gift" and a lot of good will that I've been busy taking advantage of ever since. Something to keep in mind for the future, at least in this market. Next time you're in town PM me; maybe we can roll together; both threesomes I've done w/ Soo-Ae have involved Stella, and the latter is actually much better in traffic.

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Kimchi gave a great summary of the Cabin. Just to add a bit on your specific questions:

Most of the chicks at the Cabin are in their mid-30s, although there are some exceptions. They're a pretty uninhibited bunch and more than willing to move the fun off site (which is nice).

Ms. Lee is in her late 40s - probably 48 or 49 by U.S. age. She's no spring chicken and has put on weight in the last two or three years. That said, she still get it on as well or better than girls 20-25 years younger...and is very much into it. Very big into kissing and long, long sessions (I had to kick her out a couple of times back in the day so I cold get a few minutes sleep before work). She's very much into anal play...still remember her grabbing one of my fingers and pushing it deep into her ass the first time we met. She's reluctant to do the deed unles she knows you though. It's a fun ride though...she gets all quakey and teary eyed but keeps telling you to do her. Everytime I've done her this way it's started out with her saying she doesn't do anal....then comes the finger in her ass as we go doggy, then a few minutes later in she pops. One tip - - she's not much into DATY but she goes wild for fingering - especially if its prolonged.

Enjoy and be sure to share your adventures. Always good to hear about talent I may have missed - particulary chicks open to more than vanilla FS/BJ action.

KORVET

[QUOTE=Daviddawkins]A few of you seem to have the "hill" mapped out.

I have become intrigued with the MILF experience. Is the "Cabin" the bar that is directly across from that hotel/motel 3/4 of the way up hooker hill? How old is Ms. Lee? For those of you that have tried her, Is she fairly open to getting down and dirty or is she a starfish?

Are there any other milfs that work the area that anyone has tried and could recommend?

Just out of curiosity, who is the thinnest, fattest, and oldest of the workers in the Hill area. Fine reports of late. Keep it up.[/QUOTE]

Nb that the word on the street is that there will be a police sweep in Itaewon sometime Thursday evening. Apparently, a one-off, just to keep the denizens on their toes, not part of any prolonged anti-vice campaign; still the better part of discretion is to keep it in your pants that night or order takeout.

@Korvet - Yep, definitely sounds like the same girl. I briefly tried getting her into anal but she wasn't too responsive. Again, I think we just got off on the wrong foot. I would say she's definitely worth her price.

@Kimchi - Thanks for the offer, perhaps I will hit you up next time I'm in town. A threesome with Soo Ae and Stella sounds like it would be quite the experience!

I admit that I made some newbie mistakes of my own with Soo Ae - mainly, I shouldn't have let things go as far as they did without making the prices clear. I was expecting some markup, but I was surprised at just how high she tried to ring me for! And further put off by her continued attempts to get more money out of me. I wouldn't mind going to see her again, but only if we established the price right off the bat, its a price that's not outrageous, and she doesn't try to dog me for more money. I'm not too angry about it, I just hope that reporting about it here can help some other would-be Soo Ae customers from having to go through the same thing. Whatever you do, don't let her see credit cards in your wallet. In fact, I'd say bring nothing more than however much you are willing to spend.

Soo Ae/Stella threesome...that's something I'd definitely like to do!

[Quote]Soo Ae/Stella threesome...that's something I'd definitely like to do![/Quote]

Well I guess it would be a foursome tag-team match. LOL.

As for managing Soo-Ae's monetary expectations, I can take care of that end.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Well I guess it would be a foursome tag-team match. LOL.

As for managing Soo-Ae's monetary expectations, I can take care of that end.[/QUOTE]Hey, bro, count me in on that if you need an extra "helping hand". I've done numerous threesomes (but just one tag team foursome) on the hill with the ladies. Give me a reply if interested. I'm available almost every night.

Cheers

Turn on your PM mail facility.

Ok, keeping the conversations flowing, I want to know: What is your favorite mongering method/area in Korea? Are there pros and cons to each? My opinions, from what I've experienced so far:

Itaewon: More expensive, but better service. I frequently get at least 30 minutes for short time if not longer. I don't know how the girls rate for looks, but I've found them to be a bit freakier than others in Korea. But then again, I usually go on week nights, so the selection is low and possibly, they are down for more because they need the business. Molah.

Yongsan: Even though I'm a westerner, I've gotten service. Not by the really hot ones on the main drag, but the second tier in the alleys. Price, ok (70, 000), Girls, low quality. Service, even worse. ST seems to be 15 minutes. Last time, I wasn't finished and I had to pay 30, 000 more to finish after 15 minutes was up. That sucked.

Glass Houses: I went there for the first time the other night. Had a good experience. Girl was nice, hot and stacked. Many women were ok with me being a westerner. Price, 70, 000. Had a good time. I lasted about 30 minutes and the girl didn't seem to mind. I pounded her, pulled her hair, also ok with her. Only problem, far away from where I live in Gangnam.

Anma: I don't like to pay 200, 000 when I can pay less than 100, 000 other places

BBS: Haven't tried yet.

What I REALLY would like is a place closer to Gangnam with prices between 70, 000. 100, 000. I need a place to go after work to get quick and cheap FS. I go to Zest, but that's HJ only for 80, 000. If anyone has better options (near Gangnam or just want to add to the discussion) feel free to post.

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I read the past forum entries but I can't find a good answer to these questions: can I expect DFK in the Glass Houses in Miari? And how long does a session typically last there?

Can someone help?

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Thanks for your evident concern about my perceptual acuity.

[/QUOTE]

Hahahah, Gotta love the prose!

Wow guys, sounds like you have been having the time of your lives in my absence. Currently out of the country chasin Latina providers, and catching a few!

Amusingly, I have to say I never knew about any post-ops on the Hill. Wow, kind of shocking to think in a drunken haze I might have been with someone who was once packin meat. Oh well, if I did, I didn’t notice it, and being a medical guy, I am pretty sure I would. Now Thailand on the other hand…

As for Azure’s experience with Soo- Ae, eh, win some, lose some I always say. I always feel like it’s a roll of the dice when I pick a provider. Sometimes the chemistry gets screwed up, sometimes its money, sometimes the girl’s odor turns me off and I can’t finish. Sometimes things go incredibly right, and I have a great f*** experience, as I did with Soo-Ae. I think if you read my old report you will see I spent 300W, but really we were together for about 2.5 hours.

So now I have to relate my last night in Seoul about 2 weeks ago. (Sorry Kimchee, had to leave the country for a bit, but will return) Anyway, went out in Apujeong for partying with the boys and stayed out until 5am. Then I ended up in an An Ma. (See pics)

The experience was same same. Get naked, shower table, pussy/tits oil massage, shower and hot towels, then back to bed for CBJ, RCG, then CG, then mish to finish. Girl was about a 7 L/ 7 A. The only thing is I was too drunk to finish. No chance no way. Well, adjoshi was came in the room and asked what was the problem, i.e. how come I was upset. I told him the girl quit just when I was about to come and said, “times up”, which was almost true.

So, for 100KW more he sent in another girl. And same thing all over again. Again, he comes in and asks how it was, and I say same, “no good, she watch clock too much”. So, he asks if I want different girl, and I say ok. So, again 100K more and in comes in a different girl, and she starts my third shower of the night, I tell her no shower, just fuckee, which is OK with her.

Adjoshi comes in the last time and asks OK? Again I tell him no, no good. He says, girl very good, my best, you no come? I say send her in again and this time for sure. So, he says, this one on me, she fuck you good. And third girl comes in again and we fuck for another hour. Again, no come. So finally, exhausted, I say “too muchee”, and go to sleep.

I woke up around 1pm in the afternoon and took the two pictures below. This is where I found myself. I thanked Adjoshi very much and walked outside into the sunlight and tried to figure out how to get home from where I was which took about 4 hours and resembled hell.

End result, fantastic service from all providers and adjoshi, fucked for around 4 hours with 4 different girls for 300K won. Not that I am saying you guys should go do that, but I think it stands that customer service gets a huge thumbs up at this place. Go to exit in pic, and then look for other pic and go.

YMMV though.

It should be pretty obvious from my previous posts what my views on this are, so I won't repeat. Just wanted to mention a couple of options you didn't include: (1) the room salon experience in all its manifestations. High-end, down & dirty and "white man's" (pretty well-covered in past posts) and (2) SWs (yes, Clarence, there are SWs in Seoul, although as far as I know they only work from about now until it gets really cold again in December, the stroll being tactically located on the Namsan Ring Road about halfway between the Hyatt and the Hilton. Saw about a dozen out there last night at 1:30 am; my impression is that they don't generally come out until after 11.although it may be earlier as the temp. Rises. No experience of my own with them to report, alas.)

[Quote]I read the past forum entries but I can't find a good answer to these questions: can I expect DFK in the Glass Houses in Miari? And how long does a session typically last there[Quote]Very unlikely for DFK; short time.

Kimchi Warrior mentioned streetwalkers along Namsan at night. Are they there for pickup in the car, or do they have houses nearby where they take you? I wonder where else around Seoul one could find women on the street? For myself, I don't really like the way the Itaewon club girls bleed you for every won you've got, then insist you hurry your way through the deed, or the time pressures of the red light areas like Yongsan and Miari, though the girls are hot. I prefer an independent woman with her own place to go back to, and don't mind if she's older, since I find they are often most into the sex and provide a better attitude and service overall. You even get a better price. Good value overall.

There are the usual suspects patrolling the Itaewon streets, like the fat lady, Song, who has business cards advertising her massage, and the toothless granny who's always in the entrance to Gecko's. There are also quite a few in the back streets by Youngdeungpo Stn. (I visited one of them a number of times and she was extremely pleasant, unhurried, always happy to see me - 30,000 won a pop.) There are a few on Namsan during the day time near the casino, most of whom are really nasty, but one, Mi-young, has been just great the few times I've been to see her.

I guess what I'm asking is: what have I missed? Does anyone know about other places around where you can find women on the street? Especially if they're out relatively early, since I don't live in Seoul and rely on public transportation to get back to my place at night.

Thanks in advance for any wisdom you have to offer!

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior][Quote]I read the past forum entries but I can't find a good answer to these questions: can I expect DFK in the Glass Houses in Miari? And how long does a session typically last there[Quote]Very unlikely for DFK; short time.[/QUOTE]Probably not much DFK, you get maybe 20-30 minutes in the karoke, with a beverage and then it's about 20 minutes for the boom boom.

[quote]Kimchi Warrior mentioned streetwalkers along Namsan at night. Are they there for pickup in the car, or do they have houses nearby where they take you?[/quote]My understanding, confirmed only by observation on my way in and out w/ another SP, is that the Hotel D'Oro is one of the venues of choice for the Namsan SWs.

Hello,

I am a student in South Korea doing an exchange. I want to know what the best place to get a naked, sensual massage. I would prefer if it is closer to Sinchon. It can also be close to City Hall subway station. Please let me know the best place, and the price/service I should expect

Also If I want to find a girl who is open to Anal, where should I go? Itaewon? Thanks very much!

I'm unaware of anything in Sinchon [except the plethora of potential freebees from Ewha and Yonsei undergrads ], and if you don't want to go farther than the City Hall area, your best bet is probably the Sporex sauna at The Koreana Hotel right across from City Hall; there was a recent brief report on it. RTFF.

Your best bet for backdoor action is Itaewon. Three providers spring to mind: Candy at Rosy's, Mindy at Texas and Soo-Ae at Peach Phuzz. Candy is a bit of a shark, and you'll need to make clear your wants and settle a price up front without letting her see how much dosh you may have on hand. Mindy is a lot easier to deal with. I recently took the big lumber up the dirt path with her on a whim, and she had no problem with it; but she knows me; YMMV. She doesn't show up, usually, until after 11 PM. Soo-Ae is far and away the best-looking.- in fact she's a knock-out. And the most likely "real" GFE, if you strike her fancy, but she's only been taking it in the backdoor for a very short time, may or may not be willing (and definitely is unlikely to be if you're from Lake Woebegone and are above-average. Or even if you're just average). I'd project at least 300K KRW for any one of them for the price of rear entry (plus everything else, of course); all will try for more. NB, that Soo-Ae is being visited by Cousin Flo this week.

The providers below are solid and the characterization is right on target.

I've had good backdoor success at VIP and the Cabin as well, although not all the girls are up for it. The easiest tack is to be direct; you're not asking for anything someone else hasn't. Worst case, you move on (unless she's a hottie that you're into regardless of services on the menu). If the chemistry is good you can also "develop" talent - I've convinced a few of my regulars to go anal after a couple solid sessions. They won't do it regularly...but that adds to the spice.

If you're less picky about things ,you can move up the Hill. As reported earlier, Madrid has some post-ops (not everyone's cup of tea...although some are smoking hot) who are anal friendly. Also, a few of the other chicks from the Mississippi and points further up the Hill are convincable for a reasonable price.

300KW is more than sufficient for the chicks below. Cheapest was 80K (from some fireplug looking wench near the top of the Hll last year); most expensive was 800K to do Candy and a friend of hers from VIP. It included anal with both, Candy fisting her friend's ass (not my request or somethng I'm really into but strangely arousing while Candy was deepthroating me...), and ATM from one chick to the other.

One I've been meaning to break in is Stella....

Away from the Hill-

Glass Houses: Never had success with this at a glasshouse, although I've had some great off-site FS sessions with chicks I became "regulars" with.

Anma's: Hit and miss. I've scored with maybe 20% of the chicks there; usually with repeats.

Freelancers/Freebies: Pretty good record here. I've broken in every freebie that I've hit more than twice. I've convinced about a third of freelancers.

Side Note: 100% of the chicks I've hit in Itaewon have said "please don't tell anyone else I do this" and "do you only do this with me?" (as in "do we have a "special" relationship?").

Happy hunting. Be sure to share your hits (and misses).

KORVET



Your best bet for backdoor action is Itaewon. Three providers spring to mind: Candy at Rosy's, Mindy at Texas and Soo-Ae at Peach Phuzz...

Great! Thanks a lot for your replies!

I think I will check out sporex tomorrow. What is the proper procedure for that place? How much does it cost? And what services should I expect there? Just a HJ? Will both the girl and myself be naked?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Korvet]
300KW is more than sufficient for the chicks below. Cheapest was 80K (from some fireplug looking wench near the top of the Hll last year); most expensive was 800K to do Candy and a friend of hers from VIP. It included anal with both, Candy fisting her friend's ass (not my request or somethng I'm really into but strangely arousing while Candy was deepthroating me...), and ATM from one chick to the other.
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Are you serious?!?! 800K for just anal with a friend??? Geez...you can probably get 2 bottles and a second round at a full service room salon for those prices and have some change left over for some kimbap and ramen after the deed!

In any event, I just want to applaud the postings of Kimchi Warrior and Korvet for making the S.Korean threads a more enjoyable read!

As for backdoor entry, I've had very little luck when it comes to persuading girls but these are mostly with normal Korean girls and as for providers, its usually a flat out NO with stern looks for being a pervert. Perhaps I need to try out Itaewon as mentioned in the earlier posts but thanks for all the info and hope that I can plug some ass sometime soon!

[Quote]If the chemistry is good you can also "develop" talent. [/Quote]I can't seem to get smilies to work, so let me just say this brought a big smile to my face. When I first met Soo-Ae a year ago she was a very unspoiled, playful, enthusiastic and imaginative provider (still is, for that matter) with well above average (GFE grade) but not truly remarkable (porn star grade) skills, and there were certain limits; she was very shy (and usually unwilling) about DATY (I think because she enjoys it so much, and doesn't necessarily want to with every or even most clients) and anal wasn't even in the ballpark. I'm pleased to say that assiduous tuition on my part has resulted in always open DATY, really outstanding, porn star level tea-bagging deepthroat skills and sometimes anal. I bought several gradually more challenging training toys for the latter maybe 7-8 months ago, and she's has been progressing nicely. I'm definitely from Lake Woebegone, so it's still difficult and painful for her, but she's gotten to the point where she can take the whole rather long and thick enchilada and even enjoy it despite (or on account of? ) the discomfort.

So ya'll are welcome. LOL.

The Sporex is upstairs on the 8th? Floor. There are two elevator banks; one doesn't stop there. Tell 'them on the way in you want a massage. After changing they will show into the sauna with the various water tubs, etc. After you've broiled for awhile, they'll come looking for you. Sports massage is on offer in the sauna facilities, but that's not what you want; they will probably know what you want. LOL. For that you go through a small relaxation room to another part of the floor and a private room. Sensual massage w/ happy ending. You will be naked; the girl may or may not be full or partially so. You may or may not get to play anatomical discovery. You will pay 100K; may be more now; it's been awhile.

For anyone in need, or if you're just looking to boost your satyriasis quotient to the insatiable level, viagra is available for 10K KRW/100mg under the counter at the Adult Shop on Itaewon high street. Head east from the 4-way where the fire station is located, past the original Sortino's restaurant and past the the light at the next big intersection (where the Jeil Advertising Bldg. Is located). The shop is located on the second floor with entry directly from the street about 4-5 shops in from the corner on the south side. They also often have cialis, if that's what you prefer.

It occurs to me. The little brain is always getting the big one to turn over. That with the economy softening, it may be time to get together a Seoul Mongers raiding party for a Bukchang-dong/Soegye-dong style room salon mission. I seem to recall a not too old report about decent pricing for parties of four or more. Any volunteers? Any recommendations? Isn't this something on which you have some intel, Dizz Hizz? Haven't been myself for five years or so, when I organized a double platoon size outing, and all my sources are cold.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]For anyone in need, or if you're just looking to boost your satyriasis quotient to the insatiable level, viagra is available for 10K KRW/100mg under the counter at the Adult Shop on Itaewon high street. Head east from the 4-way where the fire station is located, past the original Sortino's restaurant and past the the light at the next big intersection (where the Jeil Advertising Bldg. Is located). The shop is located on the second floor with entry directly from the street about 4-5 shops in from the corner on the south side. They also often have cialis, if that's what you prefer.[/QUOTE]

i was also told about this intel but when i entered the shop and after looking at the various bright colored dildos and vibrators, my inquiry was shut down with a somewhat stern look on the store owner's face. shit.

maybe because i'm korean american he thought it would be better safe than sorry. anyways, i really do want some vitamins in the near future and had no luck in finding any!

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]It occurs to me. The little brain is always getting the big one to turn over. That with the economy softening, it may be time to get together a Seoul Mongers raiding party for a Bukchang-dong/Soegye-dong style room salon mission. I seem to recall a not too old report about decent pricing for parties of four or more. Any volunteers? Any recommendations? Isn't this something on which you have some intel, Dizz Hizz? Haven't been myself for five years or so, when I organized a double platoon size outing, and all my sources are cold.[/QUOTE]

Kimchi Warrior,

I just went to the RS (room salon) located in the basement of the Ramada Hotel over in Samsung Dong recently, and although the venue itself is a bit more classy with live bands for entertainment as opposed to built in karoake, the initial charges are a bit more steep but girls are available for take out for second round. Initial charges were about 300K/head and I presume take out would be another 200K, which is expected for a full service RS.

Since I used to work around the City Hall area several years ago, I did frequently visit those Buk-Chang Dong establishments but after a while, it got old and I just wanted to fuck instead of getting a BJ/HJ in the presence of my colleagues and friends for something nominally cheaper and avoiding the whiskey dick syndrome.

Samsung Dong also has a number of places like BKD style rooms, as FOX was the primary place I used to visit and had a good waiter friend who brought in some slutty talent and was also somewhat foreign friendly but my waiter moved out to some place called Bugsy over by Kangnam station and I have still yet to check out the venue and its services. I'm presuming 200K/head should be the norm there.

Another great venue with beautiful sool jib girls is Blue Fish, located right next to the Black Angus in Kangnam Station. Prices are downright expensive as I recall about being almost 4-500K/head but those girls were just fucking awesome and left me blue balled and hungover the next day.

Might be hard to gather the mongers on this board given everyone's personal schedules and committment to meet random strangers on the internet but you're efforts are well noted for great info and gathering like minded people for a full time hobby!

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]i was also told about this intel but when i entered the shop and after looking at the various bright colored dildos and vibrators, my inquiry was shut down with a somewhat stern look on the store owner's face. shit.

maybe because i'm korean american he thought it would be better safe than sorry. anyways, i really do want some vitamins in the near future and had no luck in finding any![/QUOTE]

They are available because the last time I went into this shop the seller (not sure if he was the owner) did offer me the pills along some boot-leeged porno DVDs.

Ok, I dig Korean chicks...but I have to admit it: I've got a soft spot for girls from the hood. Maybe it's a result of my lost youth in LA and the hotties I dated in Hawthorne, Gardenia, and similar places...maybe it's because I've always been the guy trying all 31 flavors at Baskin Robbins.

But what's available in Itaewon???

Lest you think your only choices are hefty Nigerian girls with drug problems and thick necked boyfriends at the bottom of Fish Alley or female soldiers at the King Club, take heart in knowing that you can always tap Kelly.

Kelly, a Korean chick originally from Busan, has been in and out of the biz for about six years (mainly out for the last year though). She's currently working late nights at the Moonlight, more or less across from Tiger Tavern.

First off she's a very good provider: attitude with me has always been a 9-10; price is about 140K for FS/BBBJ - which is on the high end - but she'll usually take u to her place, right around the corner. Sessions usually involve a shared shower followed by GFE FS and BJ; no rush at all and not particularly sharkish. Body is good. She's about 32, "thick" (i.e. filled out in all the right places), and has a good rack of natural Cs.; about a 7.5 in overall looks on the Itaewon scale. She's ok with some anal play but has always been reluctant to do the deed.

So what does this have to do with hood rats (i.e. slightly thuggish hotties from the hood who sleep with a lot of guys)?

Kelly believes she's black. Ok...maybe not literally but she's imprinted hard on stereotypical African-American hood culture, down to her accent, her style in bed, and some absolutly ghetto body art. Any time I long for my misspent youth I visit Kelly, turn off the lights, and I'm back in a cheap hotel on Crenshaw Blvd.

Give her a ride. I suspect you'll enjoy it.

KORVET

Well, to be fair they also gave me a stick of gum and all the handi-whipes I could handle.

:)

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]Are you serious?!?! 800K for just anal with a friend??? Geez...you can probably get 2 bottles and a second round at a full service room salon for those prices and have some change left over for some kimbap and ramen after the deed!

In any event, I just want to applaud the postings of Kimchi Warrior and Korvet for making the S.Korean threads a more enjoyable read!

[QUOTE=Sfinil]

Met up with a girl about 2/3 of the way up the hill on the left. There's a building with a few bars in it and it's the second door from the top near the top corner of the building on the left. I wish I could remember the name, but I can't. I wish I could remember HER name, but I can't. So this really isn't helpful.

But she was short, had a really big ass, short hair, glasses. Kind of an alternative look a little. Either way, if you ever notice her, try her out. She ABSOLUTELY thinks it's her job to do what you want her to do. That includes taking it as hard as I can give it to her and deep throat my dick. I've done her twice and even though she is not the prettiest, her personality and dkill is amazing. And with her HUGE ass, it was like pounding a pillow. I was on a bouncy ride and I held on as long as I could.

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I went to Itaewon tonight and got a BJ from this woman named Bean at Bridge Bar. She started at 80k for a BJ and 100k for FS, I scoffed at those prices and offered 40k for a BJ she countered with 60k and 80k for FS, and I said 50k take it or leave it. In fact, that's all the money I had on me, since I had spent the rest of my cash on beers and kebabs down the road.

Anyways, I gave her the 50,000 won and she took me to the motel across the street where she has a room. It was pretty dingy but it's fine for a quickie. To be honest I wouldn't have gone for Bean if it weren't for this recommendation by Sfinil. So, if you're reading this Sfinil, she should thank you, maybe give you a discount or something!

Her ass really stands out since it's fairly big, especially for a Korean chick. As she was walking me to the motel I was checking it out and it really was like a horses ass! She ended up giving a very good BJ with some good deep throat action. Having said that, I don't think I would repeat as I just don't think she's that good looking. And when it comes down to it, the only reason she has that ass is because she's kind of chubby.

Overall, I prefer Jina at Eve Bar, or the ladies at VIP. But Bean is fine for cheap thrills and I don't regret going with her.
[QUOTE=Korvet]

If you're less picky about things ,you can move up the Hill. As reported earlier, Madrid has some post-ops (not everyone's cup of tea...although some are smoking hot) who are anal friendly.[/QUOTE]
I saw that she-boy at Madrid, it came out and tried to get me to come in. It's fairly clear it's a man (it's about six feet tall with a long neck), but whatever floats peoples boat. I hope it tells people it's a guy, you know, full disclosure and all.

Anyways, it's against ISG rules to post about TV or TS:

"No Discussion about Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males. This website is about sex between men who were always men and women who were always women. Any person violating this policy will banned immediately."

[QUOTE=Run Mann]They are available because the last time I went into this shop the seller (not sure if he was the owner) did offer me the pills along some boot-leeged porno DVDs.[/QUOTE]

DISCRIMINATION!!

LOL!!

I guess looking like the locals can do more harm than good in this situation...damn you round eyed caucasians!

But that seriously sucks. Whats the prices like though?

[QUOTE=Korvet]Well, to be fair they also gave me a stick of gum and all the handi-whipes I could handle.
:)
[/QUOTE]

LOL.

Quite hard to beat a stick of gum and some handi-whipes but unlimited cigarettes, ramen, and free lighters at the 180K (sorry folks i get the korean pricing but I cant get fucking vitamins) joints for me seem good enough for me!

And don't forget the free shoe shine too!

;)

Anyways, I gave her the 50, 000 won and she took me to the motel across the street where she has a room. It was pretty dingy but it's fine for a quickie. To be honest I wouldn't have gone for Bean if it weren't for this recommendation by Sfinil. So, if you're reading this Sfinil, she should thank you, maybe give you a discount or something!

Her ass really stands out since it's fairly big, especially for a Korean chick. As she was walking me to the motel I was checking it out and it really was like a horses ass! She ended up giving a very good BJ with some good deep throat action. Having said that, I don't think I would repeat as I just don't think she's that good looking. And when it comes down to it, the only reason she has that ass is because she's kind of chubby.

Thanks for the heads up. I WILL milk it for as much of a discount as possible. She gives pretty good head, but the real reason to go with Bean is because of her big ass. Doggy is amazing. And because her ass is big, not only is it like pumping a pillow, but if you like to go hard, she can take it. She has no problem with a little bit of kinky or extra specifics (I like girls to smoke while I get them doggy, and she was ok with that. I also enjoy a little hard or rough and she was good with that too). So, with just the BJ, she's ok, but that's missing the real reason with her. That being said, I will now only repeat with her if there's nobody better available. She's a good time, but not an ATF at all.

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[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]DISCRIMINATION!!

LOL!!

I guess looking like the locals can do more harm than good in this situation...damn you round eyed caucasians!

But that seriously sucks. Whats the prices like though?[/QUOTE]

I didn't get any so I can't remember what the price was but don't think it was too much or too little or it would have stayed in my memory. Go back again, he may be in a better mood next time.

10K KRW / 100mg; if you spring for 10 or more, sometimes they throw one or two in for "service".

thanks for the vitamin prices! i might have to try again or send them non-koreans in there for a beer or two!

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]The Sporex is upstairs on the 8th? Floor. There are two elevator banks; one doesn't stop there. Tell 'them on the way in you want a massage. After changing they will show into the sauna with the various water tubs, etc. After you've broiled for awhile, they'll come looking for you. Sports massage is on offer in the sauna facilities, but that's not what you want; they will probably know what you want. LOL. For that you go through a small relaxation room to another part of the floor and a private room. Sensual massage w/ happy ending. You will be naked; the girl may or may not be full or partially so. You may or may not get to play anatomical discovery. You will pay 100K; may be more now; it's been awhile.[/QUOTE]I was at Sporex located at Koreana Hotel 8th floor. I had sauna and went for my massage. I waited for the girl to arrive and she was really beautiful. She was wearing a short mini-skirt with some sort of elastic pants underneath.

But she did not allow any touching. The HJ was rather mechanical and she told me: Don't touch. Can anyone tell me whether this is normal at Sporex? We are not allowed to touch the masseuse?? There was no sensuality in the massage but overall massage was good. I paid a total of $118.

Please let me know if I had a lower standard of service. BTW, i cannot speak Korean.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]The Sporex is upstairs on the 8th? Floor. There are two elevator banks; one doesn't stop there. Tell 'them on the way in you want a massage. After changing they will show into the sauna with the various water tubs, etc. After you've broiled for awhile, they'll come looking for you. Sports massage is on offer in the sauna facilities, but that's not what you want; they will probably know what you want. LOL. For that you go through a small relaxation room to another part of the floor and a private room. Sensual massage w/ happy ending. You will be naked; the girl may or may not be full or partially so. You may or may not get to play anatomical discovery. You will pay 100K; may be more now; it's been awhile.[/QUOTE]I visited Sporex but the massage was good but not sensual. And the gal did not allow any touching and was not naked in any sense. Kept her clothes on alll the time. And HJ was very mechanical. I was there last night. Is there a drop in standard? And we are not allowed to touch the maseuse. Pls tell me your experience.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Sun1978]I visited Sporex but the massage was good but not sensual. And the gal did not allow any touching and was not naked in any sense. Kept her clothes on alll the time. And HJ was very mechanical. I was there last night. Is there a drop in standard? And we are not allowed to touch the maseuse. Pls tell me your experience.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
I've been to the Sporex a few times now since I've been in Seoul and I've been able to feel up the masseuse and stick my hand under their skirt/short thing that they wear. I guess it depends on the girl, though. But they don't get naked, so if that's what you're looking for you'd have to go somewhere else.

There's really no point in going there just for the HJ. You're much better off going to Cool or somewhere like that. The Sporex is more for if you want to spend time using their sauna facilites and then get a professional massage that lasts over an hour from a "9" with a short HJ at the end.

I have recommended the Sporex in past reports, but much more for the massage and facilities than anything else. However, it's not somewhere I would go on a regular basis because of the cost. And I definitely wouldn't call it a sensual experience. I apologize if I made it sound like that in prior reports.

FYI: The price of the massage is now 100k, and the entrance to the sauna is about 18k.

Where is cool and what do they offer @ cool? I am new to Seoul and still not familiar with this secen yet.

Thanks for your help

I've read through quite a bit here, but only found a few places and with little details. Just looking for a massage, and have a few questions.

1. Can someone recommend a few good places with some details, what I can expect, and how much?

2. What can I expect different from an anma from a typicall MP place?

I am in the express bus terminal area, but willing to travel...

Thanks for the help!

Eightninesuited + Sun1978,

Gentlemen,

With all due respect, PLEASE have a read through the forum (which has been very active recently) and you will find all the information you are looking for, including very detailed directions to Cool.

I am personally a big fan of the Sporex, but agree it do not offer much sensuality. Key point for this place is the professional massage.

Have had quite a few mongering experiences recently which will try to update on in the near future. This includes a few FS barbershops in both Hannam-dong (all of the Hannam-dong BBS's are very foreigner friendly in my experience.) and one in an area not too far from the philippino market (forgot the area name/station) but will locate it again by car. The girl was a 7/8 with a very decent pair of tits. So definitely going back!

Meanwhile, one place that is rarely mentioned here is the Capital Hotel in Dongbingo-dong near Itaewon. They have full service sauna in the basement. Service include hot tub followed by assisted wash-down, decent massage and then FS. Been twice recently, and girls been rather good, 7 maybe but service not exactly GFE.

Reverting with more updates and hope this forum can remain active!

On Sunday, tried to go to wow anma in Kangnam, near the Kyobo building. Around 8 PM, found the building and sign, but doors locked!! Was it the day of the week and/or hour, or is this placed closed?

As an aside, in the immediate building to the right, there was a sign for a sports massage. Looked promising, with a door around the back, but passed for now. Any information about wow or this place would be appreciated.

Cheers

Apparently as a result of the recent apprehension of a Govt minister with his pants down in a Seogye-dong room salon, the police have initiated another crackdown (according to one of the Korean-language dailies). It began on the 6th and is reported to continue until the end of May. No mention in the english language press, so Unclear whether it will extend to the expat specialists in the 'ville. But caution certainly is in order for those interested in wandering off the res' into the local establishments that also may be foreigner friendly, and prudence may also apply in Itaewon.

Could someone kindly give me a break-down of the hotels in Seoul that offer massage, HJ and soapy massage or any other "services" for men? Please highlight prices as well. I am interested in visiting a place for massage in a nice hotel with young and beautiful girls.

[QUOTE=Sun1978]Where is cool and what do they offer @ cool? I am new to Seoul and still not familiar with this secen yet.

Thanks for your help[/QUOTE]
You can get off at Gangnam station on the green line, Line 2, like other reports on here have suggested, but I think it is better to get off in Yangjae, orange line, Line 3. Take exit three and then walk for ten minutes or so until you get to an intersection, then make a right from there and you will see Cool to the left.

I just went to Cool today. I was going to go to Belle but the guy at the door said there was a three hour wait! I'm not sure what was going on but it was a new guy at the door that I didn't recognize. So I decided to go to Cool instead. Paid the 75k but I got the hottest girl I have seen in this country, name Hey-Young, 25 years old, big natural tits. She played with my ass a little if anyone is into that. She's there Monday to Friday. Pretty much a "10". But it still pisses me off that there's a foreigner surcharge at a HJ joint!

Tried the Yongsan RLD last week, it was half dead but found a decent girl (about 7/10) in one of the back alleys. 70k, the usual deal. A few decent looking girls were ready to go for 60k. There was a 7.5/10 who wanted 80k, I refused as always, (and I recommend we all stick to the 60-70k range), or soon all those girls are gonna start expecting 80k.

Still no reports on places north of the river?

Went to Zest this week for the first time. The logistics of finding this place are well described previously, until the very end. When you find the building and go downstairs, there are no signs for the place. Just a frosted sliding door where you need to ring a bell to enter.

Anyway, I pick the stewardess fantasy, and the girl is pretty enough. But, she does not allow ANY touching!!! WTF. She did take off the stocking finally, and then just wanted to have a regular conversation, not anything particularly sexy. I just went along with it but had a hard time concentrating with all the silly questions.

Finally, when the deed was finished, she just jumped up and asked if I wanted a shower, and took off. I had heard better things about the place, but that was not my experience. Will not return, in my opinion.

Total damage: 70k
Face: 7/10
Attitude: 3/10

Manfest, you should have reported the girl to management immediately. That's what I did when it happened to me at a similar joint else last year, and I was given a full refund or choice of another girl. Remember you're paying 70k for service, not for conversation, so don't let those girls get away with it.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Apparently as a result of the recent apprehension of a Govt minister with his pants down in a Seogye-dong room salon, the police have initiated another crackdown (according to one of the Korean-language dailies). It began on the 6th and is reported to continue until the end of May. No mention in the english language press, so Unclear whether it will extend to the expat specialists in the 'ville. But caution certainly is in order for those interested in wandering off the res' into the local establishments that also may be foreigner friendly, and prudence may also apply in Itaewon.[/QUOTE]I was thinking of going to Cool for the first time soon and this makes me a little worried. I searched through this forum extensively, but I still have a few questions that I couldn't find answers to. I've never done anything like this before, so sorry if these are dumb questions. Being deported, especially for something so embarrassing, is pretty much my worst nightmare, so I think caution is justified.

1. Someone said that Cool will never be busted as long as they only give handjobs. Is that true? Has nobody ever heard about it being raided?

2. What is the "safest" time of day/day of the week to go? When do raids usually occur?

3. How serious are crackdowns in Korea? If I'm that worried about it, should I just hold off going until June?

4. If I ever do get caught in a raid, what should I say/do? I don't speak a word of Korean. Call a Korean friend to talk to them for me?

Again, sorry if I come across as worrying too much, but I would really appreciate some answers to these questions.

Thanks

not sure if this website is being monitored or participated by the prosecution office in seoul, but for those who are considering potential sociological research into the areas mentioned in the title i highly recommend vigilance.

having rarely seen any police in gangnam i was surprised twice today.

first, as i stood outside cool, my heart started pounding and i knew something wasn't right. honest to god, two police cars drove by, one with lights and another with officers looking at me closely.

second, i was exploring the yeoksam area mentioned in another post from this website and another police car with lights flashing turns into a street just as i was cross at a very low speed.

not sure if the general policy is to follow foreigners while korean men are allowed to monger at home and abroad with immunity.

perhaps it was a giant coincidence. hard to imagine them following me on cctv from cool all the way through gangnam and up to yeoksam area.

that said, i have never partaken in these kinds of services and today probably sealed my initial plan never to do so.

either way, i am curious about other laws now. is it illegal for me to research this information? am i allowed to look at porn in this country?

perhaps i have taken some freedoms for granted. the idea of anyone watching me on the internet when i am probably the same as most other men when it comes to what i occassionally use the internet for (that is porn).

curious what the laws actually are. anyone know anything about this?

Cool

Have written several complimentary reports here (and clear directions for those of you who don’t bother to search the forum) but really cannot recommend this place now after too many bad experiences. Latest today when the girl gave the most unenthusiastic poor performance I have ever known. I almost called owner after 5 min. Did not ask for her name as she would only change it tomorrow if reported here (I dated some girls from these places and assure you none of them use real names – boss gives them a name when they start). However, waited until the end (25 min total and if she had her way it would have been 15) and told him but he was not interested. Just said sorry and that was it. Previous posters have suggested reporting girls to mama/papasan and I support that cause I found they usually listen – however maybe only at more quality places. As others have said, for the 75000won Cool is really one of the worst values in Seoul – stay away.

BELLE

Like most places hit and miss but 90% positive experience for me. Door guys are usually ok if you ask for a specific girl, or even recommend one. For 65000won the service is usually good (inc BBBJ) and you should leave happy. Only one bad experience on a busy Saturday night when the girl (min-je? ) rushed through the routine like an old professional (which maybe she was as certainly not fitting the young Belle mould like Ji-Hye and So-Hee). Recommended – but don’t you guys crowd this place cause already a few times in recent months they said a wait of couple hours was necessary so business must be good.

In fact. Cool always has space when Belle/Zest have waiting time. Wonder why!

ZEST

Not good value unless you like the uniform thing – but for 70000won you can have your ‘stewardess’ or ‘schoolgirl’ or ‘waitress’ tease you for 1 hour and in my experience they do spend all of the time playing with your mr happy. Footjob, legjob, facesitting etc available but very little touching allowed and girls are fully clothed so as I said this is not for everyone. Girls usually young and cute but not anything like model standard and usually have good attitude. Door guys don’t have much english but guy managing the place at night tries to please – even gave me free session as the girl I made reservation for was not available. That’s good service!

THAI MASSAGE

Between sinsa and nonhyeon. Service is same as Belle but the guys running this are clearly extremely anti-foreigner. Every time the first reaction is to say no entry. Although I got past this a few times and they were ok the attitude deserves no business.

KOREANA SPOREX

Well reviewed recently. For 120000won it is awful value, even granted that the massage is good quality. Also the management seem to have a very righteous attitude and not exactly friendly. Girls are usually, but not always, good looking and generally allow hand roaming but of course remain fully clothed. Most focus completely on the massage then a quick finish but a couple have actually been fun and combined a quality massage with erotic touches. But seems like that is the exception – not the normal.

ANMAS

Only tried a couple. One in Gangnam near Seoulleung good service as described here previously and super cute girl and 180K price (sorry don’t remember name). Also tried New York anma in jongno area and the quality of girl and service was awful – compared to the Gangnam anma as well as previous posts. And the cost was 220K! Also, why do they have the blind massage? Like some other posters, I suggest you just skip it.

588 CHEONGYANGNI

Interesting place but at least in my experience they are only interested in koreans. Some 50 year old back alley workers are interested, but that’s not for me.

ROOM SALON

Fun for a business night out but even here the quality ranges dramatically. First, you should of course go with Korean friends/colleagues. Service can range from just serving drinks/smalltalk/hugging (around $200 per person) to serving drinks, undressing, wild dancing naked on the table, naked karaoke, and finally BBBJ all in the same room – quite an experience (around $300 per person). Can we get an ISG forum group ready for a trip to one of these?

KOREAN NIGHTCLUB

Maybe also called booking club? Not really a place that should feature on ISG but the scene is you go as a group (with Koreans of course) and buy a table inc drinks then waiters bring girls to our table all night. They drink your beer/whisky and stay a few minutes if they don’t like you or a long time if they do. It is a cool idea and you meet all sorts – not working girls, just regular customers who get free drinks for the price of being physically dragged to specific tables by waiters). If you are lucky. .

ITAEWON

I know sometimes I complain about the korean-only attitude at some places around seoul but I encourage all you guys to branch out from Itaewon. Discover the best of Seoul?

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My contribution:

Belle

Went there yesterday in the afternoon, all seemed quiet. Forked over 70k, and got down to business. I didn't get BBBJ, which I was a bit disappointed, and service was 6/10. Girl (I forgot name) had a cute face and nice body, which made up for it. I think I will try again sometime this coming week.

Wow

Strolled over there after Belle, and there is a piece of paper on the door. Seems like this place is shutdown now. The paper had some dates on there like 3/30 - 4/6, but it's a week later and still looks dead.

Itaewon

Walked around hooker hill last night and was not all that impressed. Went into a bar, talked to the girls for a bit, paid 20k for each of her drink, and girl was not all that great. Maybe not my cup of tea I guess, I prefer Anmas or Room Salon/KTV places.

Will look to head over to the anma near Seolleung area this week.

Went to zest. Yes just a hand job place, no touching above the waste (for the most part) and very limiting. BUT I found some ways to have fun. But you have to be in the right frame of mind.

I'm not a REALLY kinky guy, so I don't have a lot of fetishes, but when the other RLD places make you rush, it is nice to slow down. So first, I really like the costumes. I've done school girl, cheerleader, airline hostess and casual style. This last time was casual style and the outfit was hot. Cutoff shorts, an off-the-shoulder shirt. Really slutty.

So first, I had her pose, on the chair, on all fours on the bed. Then I had her smoke a cig. On the chair while the other hand went down her pants to play with herself.

Then, I had her get on her knees and take my dick out and start her hand job. I also made her talk "Oh, your cock is so big" "I am a dirty ****" that kind of stuff.

I was a little intoxicated and slow, so her HJ lasted 30 minutes or so, lots of oi, lots of talking and whatever else I could think of.

Oh yeah, I had seen the girl before and she remembered me, so we had built a little relationship. That doesn't mean much, except that this time I convinced her to let me put my hand inside her bra and I held her titties while she stroked me.

I also showed her a video I had on my laptop (came from work) of me fucking another Korean girl in my house. We watched that while she was doing her thing.

Yes, there is no above touching, but you can get grinding, you can simulate many positions and do all the things your girlfriend or other providers won't do.

Not a great value, but good for after a drunk night out.

A quick question: How much of an effect (positive or negative) on your ability to monger (primarily seeking FS) if you are a Korean-American with decent mastery of the language? I will be visiting Seoul for about a week next month, and I am trying to find out where I should and should not go.

I am sure a lot of non-Koreans will likely say that a guy like me should have it made since I speak the language and look the part. But it has been my experience in other countries that if you look local, there are pluses and minuses.

Any input would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]DISCRIMINATION!!

LOL!!

I guess looking like the locals can do more harm than good in this situation...damn you round eyed caucasians!

But that seriously sucks. Whats the prices like though?[/QUOTE]

neukd,

don't worry about it. you just need to go to the right hunting grounds and be a bit more aggressive and you should do fine.

dh

I had visited Baek Song a year or two ago and had a reasonable time. It was really hot in Seoul, so I figured a stop in the anma would be good.

Got off at Yeoksam and bumbled my way around until I found the building that looked like where I went before, but it's not called Baek Song any more. In fact, I can't remember what it's called now.

I went inside and asked if this used to be Baek Song and the counter lady replied yes. I paid the entrance fee of 180k and went downstairs. Their sauna was broken and the shower dude that wiped you down was no longer there.

I got in my robe and waited until they called me. When I got in the elevator there was a girl with a mask on. I'd heard about this but never experienced it myself. She stopped the elevator midway up to my floor, opened my robe and started kissing my nipples and rubbing my cock. She then started giving me a bj and after a minute or two, put a condom on me, turned around and bent over and shoved me inside her. She told me not to cum. It was exciting as it was totally unexpected.

She then pulled the condom off, straightened out her clothes and opened the elevator door. I had a full on erection that was hard to conceal. But oh well.

I went in my room and a wonderful session with the lady there. She was cute with a nice body. Not as hot looking as I had years ago, but she made it for it with exemplary service. It was the standard shower/rinse, soapy massage w/bbbj and rimming, then shower again. More rimming, bbbj and CFS.

I would definitely go back. I'll try to jot down the new name on my next return trip.

Any other recommendations on where to try while in Seoul? Cool? Belle?

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[QUOTE=Neukd]A quick question: How much of an effect (positive or negative) on your ability to monger (primarily seeking FS) if you are a Korean-American with decent mastery of the language? I will be visiting Seoul for about a week next month, and I am trying to find out where I should and should not go.

I am sure a lot of non-Koreans will likely say that a guy like me should have it made since I speak the language and look the part. But it has been my experience in other countries that if you look local, there are pluses and minuses.

Any input would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Actually, in the case of Korea (speaking as a Korean-American myself), it's a huge plus. No doors would be closed to you nor opportunities. The better your language skills, the better your experience, in my opinion.

However, a good and easy-going attitude is always appreciated no matter where you are in the world.

BTW, avoid itaewon if you looking for p4p (namely, Hooker Hill).

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Akeaton]I had visited Baek Song a year or two ago and had a reasonable time. It was really hot in Seoul, so I figured a stop in the anma would be good. [/blue][/size][/QUOTE]I am interested in this place. Anyone knows how to get there?

Is this located in a hotel? please comment.

Thanks

Certainly a provocative report but without the new name and, especially, any indication at all regarding how to get there, not imo worthy of cross-referencing in ROD (notwithstanding admin suggestion. Fill in the needed details, and I'll cross-post it myself.

[QUOTE=Zackary Kr]Actually, in the case of Korea (speaking as a Korean-American myself), it's a huge plus. No doors would be closed to you nor opportunities. The better your language skills, the better your experience, in my opinion.

However, a good and easy-going attitude is always appreciated no matter where you are in the world.

BTW, avoid itaewon if you looking for p4p (namely, Hooker Hill).

Good luck![/QUOTE]Sound advice for ethnic Koreans regarding Itaewon. Many of the girls, especially the higher quality ones, are not welcoming of Koreans, in (large) part at least because the reason they are working in Itaewon and not elsewhere is that they want to minimize the risk of running into anyone they know.

Conversely, while helpful, Korean language skills are not likely to get the waegook into many of the places that cater to the locals. There are exceptions, many of the best of which are noted in the forum, but there are many, many more where foreigners (i.e. non-ethnic Korean) simply aren't welcome.

My regular inamorata was unavailable last night, so I looked in on a few venues to recon for new faces.

Saw one at Nymph who, besides not being particularly attractive, had that look of needing to be broken in; I accordingly passed, as there was no one else on premises besides Yumi, who is well beyond her sell by date, to assist.

Then wandered up the Hill proper and got waylaid by Mindy at Texas and, since the trouser trout was jumping, decided to let her reel it in. I was in uber- blowjob mode, and after an hour of sampling Mindy's repertoire of sucking techniques, including some awesome DT, her jaw looked to be on the verge of permanent dislocation and her mascara was a mess from the tears that had gotten pushed out of her eyes. So while she took a break, I suggested we bring in a pinch hitter. I left it to her to make some suggestions, because (all other conditions being more or less satisfactory) I find it generally pays off to let a SP bring in someone with whom they are comfortable; anyway you can always send them away with one half-price LD if they don't impress.

Mindy invited over Jina from Tiffany Bar. Not exactly my ideal type, but Mindy claimed she was friendly and a great cocksucker who would give GFE along with head. Jina is a little saftig, as the Germans might say. Slender and shapely calves and thighs, but slightly thick through the hips and waist and chest, on which were displayed a couple of moderately soft D cups. The most striking feature of her breasts, though, was their inverted nipples, which I decided wold be a worthy challenge to try to turn inside out. As I was taking all this in, she had already gone down on her knees to give me a sample of her cocksucking skills which was promising enough to seal the deal, even though she is hardly pretty. Handsome would be a fairer description, with very nice skin, and a set of what I can only call librarian's glasses, which added a little frisson of interest, but were soon discarded as she picked up the pace of her blowjob. Her technique was outstanding. Very wet, bordering on sloppy, with a great combination of hand manipulation of the shaft and balls and tongue lashing of the glans and superb and effortless DT, She is also very much into DATY and, while Mindy took her place between my legs to resume her ministrations to my cock, dine I did, gorging on her tasty labia and relatively large clitoris until she had a shuddering orgasm, accompanied by a sudden and prodigious flow of pussy juice that nearly drowned me.

Finished off by letting Jina suck my cock again, while Mindy rimmed me and attended to my balls, until I was ready to unload which was a double CIM and facial.

A winner.

[QUOTE=Zackary Kr]
BTW, avoid itaewon if you looking for p4p (namely, Hooker Hill).

Good luck![/QUOTE]

Why would one avoid Itaewon when seeking P4P? It's the most concentrated area in Seoul for P4P.

[QUOTE=Zackary Kr]Actually, in the case of Korea (speaking as a Korean-American myself), it's a huge plus. No doors would be closed to you nor opportunities. The better your language skills, the better your experience, in my opinion.

However, a good and easy-going attitude is always appreciated no matter where you are in the world.

BTW, avoid itaewon if you looking for p4p (namely, Hooker Hill).

Good luck! [/QUOTE]In my humble opinion korean girls are the most beautiful girls in asia. Just going down meong dong is an eye opener in seoul. But if I didn't go to itaewon I would not have been able to screw anything there right?

On another point I did not find korean people unfriendly towards foreigners as some reports make them out to be. Or am I wrong?

[QUOTE=Sun1978]I am interested in this place. Anyone knows how to get there?

Is this located in a hotel? please comment.[/QUOTE]

Never been myself, but has been written about a few times. I guess there are a few different places called Baek Song

One of the recent write ups:

[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=697413&postcount=3903[/url]

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]My regular inamorata was unavailable last night, so I looked in on a few venues to recon for new faces.

Then wandered up the Hill proper and got waylaid by Mindy at Texas and, since the trouser trout was jumping,[/QUOTE]

This is some good stuff. Keep up the good work!

[QUOTE=Manfest]Never been myself, but has been written about a few times. I guess there are a few different places called Baek Song

One of the recent write ups:

[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=697413&postcount=3903[/url][/QUOTE]Good dig. Interesting, though, insofar as the location given is totally different from the other main one that I found that locates it somewhere a couple of klicks west of the Renaissance and in the vicinity of Star Tower (now the Gangnam Finance Center). I happened to be near the latter this afternoon and had time for some pathfinding but got no joy after an hour of trooping around, since the directions were worthless (e. G. , they had the LG Building now the GS Building) behind Star Tower, when it's actually catercorner across the major thoroughfare of Teheran-no). I need to be back down there tomorrow and will try to vet this Renaissance pointer.

[QUOTE=Manfest]Never been myself, but has been written about a few times. I guess there are a few different places called Baek Song

One of the recent write ups:

[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=697413&postcount=3903[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks.

Can anyone verify this location of Basek Song? Its supposed to be near Renaissance Hotel. I am not very familiar with Seoul myself.

Thanks

I have noticed clusters of small businesses in Seoul (usually 6-8 together) that typically have names like "Love," "She," "Amor," etc. These businesses are generally located ground floor in lower income areas, and usually they seem to be open only at night.

Most of the time they prop the door open a couple of inches, and from walking by they don't seem too busy - a few empty booths, dim lighting, and usually a 30-40 year old adjumma standing around inside waiting for a customer.

I assume these are P4P places catering to older, poorer men. I don't think they are da bang (coffee) places cause they only open at night. What services are available in these places? Anybody know? Prices? Do they service foreigners, etc?

My Korean language skills aren't good enough to inquire, unfortunately.

Back in the day, when I was enjoying Seoul; I made posts about my experiences in Jangan-Dong.

Unfortunately, it appears that it's been shut down! Now, I've RTFF, but I still can't seem to find if there are any Jangan-Dong type places out there now... I'm talking the same service, at roughly the same price (80~100K).

I will be in Korea for the entire month of May after a three year long hiatus. It would be nice to try my 'favorite' service again.

By the way, if anyone knows of any Bukchang-Dong style room salons that they'd like to go to, let me know! I might be down to go with you. Maybe Kimchi Warrior is interested?

Also, another thing that I don't see anyone posting about are the 역할대행 sites. If anyone has any info. on these, please post! I would do it myself, but unfortunately every site requires a membership (which of course, requires a Korean nat'l ID number).

Thanks, and hope to see some of you in the next few weeks.

It seems the crackdown will continue until the end of May. My regular anma in Sinchon has very few talent working, with "no guarantee" that police will not raid the place. Was kind of stressful. Mia has shut down many establishments (at least during the week). Even my regular Kangnam anma has taken time off. Itaewon appears to have the regular older women, however, the younger, hotter ones seem to have taken a break.

It's spring time, and the miniskirts are driving me mental. I need some new venues to unload, where I don't have to worry that the 5-0 will come a knocking.

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]It seems the crackdown will continue until the end of May. My regular anma in Sinchon has very few talent working, . Itaewon appears to have the regular older women, however, the younger, hotter ones seem to have taken a break. [/QUOTE]I haven't noticed any fall-off in talent in the ville, rather the reverse: many new faces. And my regular, who is certainly in the younger, hotter category, has reported that there is little worry about the current police action being extended there.

This makes sense, given that the trigger for the latest police announcement was the bust of a govt minister in a midtown room salon (probably on a tip). Even the anma districts seem OK. I was doing LRRP in the two near Seollung Stations and the Renaissance at the end of the week. Saw what struck me as an unusual number of coppers walking around. Mostly higher ranking officers. But having found "Call" wandered in to do some original research instead of lunch (just a different kind of lunch, really) and found no apprehension on the part of the staff whatsoever. Full AAR on "Call" and IB (with pics) on the two areas, including the likely location of the apparently re-named Baek Sung, to follow.

As promised, here are the results of my LRRP to Soellung Station to map out anma locations.

After the previous day's frustration following the worthless directions that located Baek Sung in the vicinity of Star Tower, I decided to begin a new day of recon testing the directions found elsewhere in the Forum for "Call".

They were better but still wrong. After you exit Soellung Station at the most northeasterly access stair (#10), you will find yourself in front of the Bokwang Building. Walk east (the direction you're facing when you exit) along the north side of Teheran-no. You should go to the intersection of the SECOND sidestreet (not the first, as previously reported). You'll know you're at the right place if (as correctly reported earlier) you see the KTF Building across the street to your right on the south side of Teheran-no and a Seven Monkeys Coffee Shop on the opposite corner straight ahead of you. Turn left. Straight ahead about three blocks you should see the opening to a park. If you're looking for "Call", walk down to the second alley on the left and turn left. "Call" is on the right side less than 100 meters in. It's a 5-6 story red brick building with a sort of half tower on the left hand of the front facade. A few more yards on, there is another anma on the left in a sort of granite fortress style building.

I ended up having a session in "Call", which was more than satisfactory, and perhaps I'll report on that later, but for the moment I want to concentrate on the geography, which is quite interesting. For if, instead of turning right to go to Call, one turns right on the first, second or third of the alleyways off the side street, one is transported to a veritable wonderland of anmas. I counted at least twelve in in three very short alleyways. None of which I"ve seen profiled in th forum. Ialso took a bunch of pictures of them, which I'll try to upload when time permits. In the meantime, instead of my earlier suggestion of a group Bukcheong style room salon outing, perhaps we should consider spelunking among the offerings in this treasure trove. Although I suspect we'll need a Korean point man to smooth the way. Are you ready for designation as assistant squad leader, Dizz?

Part 2, dealing with the lay of the land around the Renaissance, and the possible discovery of Baek Sung, follows.

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[QUOTE=MikeSaw]I have noticed clusters of small businesses in Seoul (usually 6-8 together) that typically have names like "Love," "She," "Amor," etc. These businesses are generally located ground floor in lower income areas, and usually they seem to be open only at night.

Most of the time they prop the door open a couple of inches, and from walking by they don't seem too busy - a few empty booths, dim lighting, and usually a 30-40 year old adjumma standing around inside waiting for a customer.

I assume these are P4P places catering to older, poorer men. I don't think they are da bang (coffee) places cause they only open at night. What services are available in these places? Anybody know? Prices? Do they service foreigners, etc?

My Korean language skills aren't good enough to inquire, unfortunately.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I have noticed these places as well. There are a couple of them down the street from where I live and when I have walked by there and the doors have been open I have seen fairly young girls in there, but no stunners though. But when they see me they make no effort to call me in which leads me to believe they are not foreigner friendly places. That's also why I never bothered to inquire, but I guess they are some kind of hostess bars similar to what you can find on the hill in Itaewon.

After my excursion in the back alleys of Soellung Station and a little R&R at "Call", I headed over to the Renaissance to recon for the much talked about Baek Sung.

I walked from the Seollung Station area more or less due West, meandering a bit, though, as I kept to the parallel side streets and alleys north of Teheran-no. Not really keeping cover, since as the proverbial big-nose, blue eyed round eye, I stand out more back there than along the boulevard, where there's always a sprinkling of weiguk-saram. Just wanted to see what else might be back there; only interesting discovery was a few of the so-called "bikini bars" that have sprung up in the past year or so. None were open in the early afternoon, though, so nothing to report, except that. It took about ten minutes.

For those comng from further afield, and automotively-challenged, your best bets are either Seollung Station or Yeoksam Station on the subway. From Seollung, leave by the most northwesterly exit (sorry, don't know the exit #, but you want a little challenge don; t you? ), and proceed west along the northside of the big boulevard, Teheran-no, a few blocks until you reach the Renaissance Hotel. As I said it's about a ten minute walk, and the Hotel can't be missed.

For those getting off at Yeoksam, do the reverse: exit at the most northeasterly access stairway and walk due east along the northside of Teheran-no until you reach the hotel. It's probably a little closer to Yeosam than Seollung.

When you get to the Hotel go to the side street running north along its west side. For those who are directionally-challenged, look for the Buy the Way convenience store that is on te corner of the side street and Teheran-no.

The usual suspects are all located on the three alleys that run west (left) and generally uphill off the side street. There are at least a dozen or more establishments, and they are that: most are 5-6 story buildings of substantial size.

According to a previous poster, the renowned Baek Sung is on the second alley about a third to halfway up in a Mediterranean-style building. I didn't see anything I would describe as Mediterranean, but there was a building in a sort of pastiche of late Renaissance-eraly Baroque style, with vestigial ironwork balconies tacked onto the windows on the front facade, in the indicated location. If it is indeed the former Baek Song, it's now called Myeong Ka, but the sign (over the door) is in Hangul. The other principal visual features are the main entrance at the lower right hand corner of the building, flanked on the left side by 2 or 3 narrow display windows behind which are mannequins decked out in elaborate feathered gowns, nest to which is the car park with the famous Korean "modesty curtains".

I'll try to post pictures of this and the other facades from the Renaissance and Seollung cachement areas next.

In the meantime, a renewed call for volunteers, including at least one ethnic Korean point man, for a flying squad to systematically check these places out for foreigner-friendliness and nature and quality of services.

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From today's Korea Times:

[quote]"Ward Offices Step Up Fight Against Brothels

By Park Si-soo
Staff Reporter

A growing number of ward offices are intensifying their campaign to crack down on sex businesses operating ostensibly as massage parlors and other legal entities.

The ward office in Gangnam, where such massage parlors and room salon businesses thrive, said Monday it will form a taskforce to inspect more than 350 suspicious businesses and utilize administrative countermeasures to root them out.

``Those caught selling sex will face harsher punishment, including business suspension and closure,'' a Gangnam ward office official told The Korea Times. ``This cleanup drive will continue indefinitely until such illegal business completely disappear from this town.''

Gangnam has emerged as a major hotbed of prostitution following the police crackdown on Jangan-dong ㅡ a major red-light district in Seoul ㅡ starting November last year, which succeeded in driving most brothels there out of business but eventually motivating them to cluster in the new ``sanctuary'' of Gangnam.

``If necessary, we will cooperate with police and relevant offices,'' the official said.

Other ward offices in Yongsan, Seoul and Suwon City, Gyeonggi Province are also joining in the cleanup campaign."[/QUOTE]Not sure that this is anything particularly new or just the belated appearance in the english language press of more of the story around the arrest of a government official in a room salon a couple weeks ago; the print version of the story specifically referred to an extension of the immediate crackdown on April 16-17 following the incident.

Moreover, the focus of this campaign seems to be on the businesses rather than the SPs and customers; NB the reference to administrative measures designed to suspend business licenses, etc. On the other hand, it probably wouldn't be pleasant to be the guy whose activities provided the evidence of the predicate act that would justify such administrative measures.

Still, no mention from my sources on the ground about any particular bust being in the works; it's remarkable how the word generally gets out to the venues and SPs ahead of time so everyone can go to ground when the actual enforcement action is to take place; the exception seems to be when someone is already in the cross-hairs, and the powers that be are looking for a way to bring down their prey with maximum loss of face.

Anyway, just thought you'd all like to know.

Thanks, Le Lion. Yeah the lady/ladies standing inside these places don't seem very friendly. They probably don't see many foreigners walking by here in north east Seoul where I live. I occasionally see a drunk middle age Korean man stumble out with a grin on his face. Maybe they are handjob places or assisted masturbation places? I assume they are for ladies past their prime who can't work in the other places.

I went to Miari yesterday afternoon for a session. I paid 100,000 for 2 shots and picked a nice slim girl with decent B-cups.

Anyway, after the first round she went for a shower. I waited almost 20 minutes for her to return and when she did she told me to be quiet. I asked her what was wrong and in our broken English/Korean exchange, she told me that there was a Korean man in the building, and he didn't like waygookins going there. I don't know if this man was a customer, or some kind of pimp.

She also said that he would call the police if he knew I was there. That part sounded like BS to me, but maybe he would have caused some kind of shit if he saw me.

So, this is just a warning for any foreigners thinking of going there.

Both at Miari and Cheyongyang ni (588). These Korean working girls really fear the Korean men, but I think it is because the men have an inferiority complex (or racism issues) and the girls just don't want to lose them as customers.

No problem: just pound/stroke in silence (stealth mode) until the drunk bastard leaves! It is a win-win situation, hehe! Really can't blame the girls since we are really only a small part of their customer base.

It reminds me of what the what the working girls in the Philippines call the Korean customers. "one, two, three men" (one minute of sex with a two inch dick and they pay three times more than they should, haha! ). Keep it in perspective!

Stroke on!

I have a question,

I went to Cool, got a girl, 'Connected' (as much as one can do when paying) and I asked her if she would come back to my house. After a while I convinced her to come to my place to drink wine. We agreed on a date, I gave her my phone number and we're supposed to meet.

If this happens (I'm not counting on it) what should I expect? I'm not really looking to date and start a relationship with this girl. I just want her to come back to my house so maybe we can do things that we can't do in the establishment. I made it obvious. I offered to pay her or just wine and dine her, but seriously, I want to get at it at the end of the night.

Has anyone else seen girls outside? Am I going to have to take this slow or if she's coming over, does she know what I want? She seemed to say, no sex, no kissing, just drink wine. And I am thinking, fuck that. .

What do you think?

[QUOTE=Sfinil]I have a question,

I went to Cool, got a girl, 'Connected' (as much as one can do when paying) and I asked her if she would come back to my house. After a while I convinced her to come to my place to drink wine. We agreed on a date, I gave her my phone number and we're supposed to meet.

If this happens (I'm not counting on it) what should I expect? I'm not really looking to date and start a relationship with this girl. I just want her to come back to my house so maybe we can do things that we can't do in the establishment. I made it obvious. I offered to pay her or just wine and dine her, but seriously, I want to get at it at the end of the night.

Has anyone else seen girls outside? Am I going to have to take this slow or if she's coming over, does she know what I want? She seemed to say, no sex, no kissing, just drink wine. And I am thinking, fuck that. .

What do you think?[/QUOTE]
I saw a girl from Belle a few times (weekend Christina) and I never ended up banging her. We just went to Outback Steakhouse and cafes and stuff to hang out and chat. In the end I think she was just using me to improve her English, since she was studying to be a flight attendant for Emirates. One "date" she even brought her listening homework and she was asking me questions about the vocabulary!

I guess what I'm saying is, don't expect sex. I mean, isn't that why they work at HJ places in the first place, because they don't want to give up the pussy? They could be making a lot more money working at a RLD if they went all the way I think.

Anyways, good luck, but if she breaks out her homework from YBM, don't say I didn't warn you!

[QUOTE]Has anyone else seen girls outside? Am I going to have to take this slow or if she's coming over, does she know what I want? She seemed to say, no sex, no kissing, just drink wine. And I am thinking, fuck that. .

What do you think?[/QUOTE]I think you already know the answer is, essentially, YMMV.

I see my most regular regular regularly on the "outside" (as well as on the "inside" of her club). On the inside, I pay full freight. On the outside I don't pay. Actually, that's not quite right since I usually foot the tab for dinner, theatre, film, hotel for the weekend, whatever, although she occasionally takes the initiative to pay too, e. G. , a mighty fine birthday dinner for me and another outstanding meal on the "anniversary" of our first meeting (on the inside), both accompanied by nice gifts and, later, even nicer GFE/PSE fucks of truly superlative quality. The pattern was set sometime early on in out "relationship".- after about our third or fourth meeting.- when the more or less simultaneous realization that we really clicked together sexually led. Particularly on her part. To an openness to treating the situation as more than just a simple commercial proposition. This rapidly led to my getting invited to her home and a level of "service" way above the norm, both on and off the job. These days, I reckon it's about 50% P4P and 50% "free" or her pay.

In any case, as my best friend, has said, I've found the proverbial *****/GF and am one lucky fuck, particularly as despite the intense connection she's not clingy. In fact has ocassionally arranged threesomes and/or other assignations for me when she's "busy".

Whether you'll find something similar depends entirely on the girl's attitude and yours. I like cultivating these sorts of liaisons and I've been fortunate enough to find a WG whose fancy I've managed to strike sufficiently to get somewhat special treatment, in no small part (I think) because I don't treat her just as a paid ejaculatory engineer/cum receptacle.

Seriously, f that. Don't waste your time.

You can pick up providers in Itaewon if that's your cup of tea.

[QUOTE=Sfinil]I have a question,

I went to Cool, got a girl, 'Connected' (as much as one can do when paying) and I asked her if she would come back to my house. After a while I convinced her to come to my place to drink wine. We agreed on a date, I gave her my phone number and we're supposed to meet.

If this happens (I'm not counting on it) what should I expect? I'm not really looking to date and start a relationship with this girl. I just want her to come back to my house so maybe we can do things that we can't do in the establishment. I made it obvious. I offered to pay her or just wine and dine her, but seriously, I want to get at it at the end of the night.

Has anyone else seen girls outside? Am I going to have to take this slow or if she's coming over, does she know what I want? She seemed to say, no sex, no kissing, just drink wine. And I am thinking, fuck that. .

What do you think?[/QUOTE]

Sfinil, good question. First, as you said, chances are that she won't call. If she does though, nothing to worry about, she wants you, so let her come. Now the problem is this: if she does like you, why haven't you banged her inside that HJ/massage place yet? It's technically 'forbidden', but I've done it in the past with several girls (not in Cool, never been there) so it's definitely possible.

Also, some advice to avoid getting stuck in an Outback steakhouse or coffee shop helping some useless girl with her Englishee: first, why on earth are you in a family restaurant with her? If she wants you, it's unnecessary, taking her to KFC for a coke would work just the same. If she doesn't want you, then how is taking her to Outback going to change anything? Dates + Restaurants are for real girlfriends, period. In my experience, a short evening meeting anywhere cheap is enough to evaluate the girl's intentions: don't rush, but make a move at some point and see how she reacts. Then follow your guts: if youre not feeling it, no second date. If she's receptive, or at least doesn't freak out, then you're in.

Yongsan rld is closed. I walked thru on Thursday evening and all the lights were out with LEO lounging around the entrances.

Ok, I have RTFFDOT (dozens of times) and I can't figure out where Belle is. I ended up at cool, but I have walked up and down as many streets as I can around the Prudential Building (And whoever said he just happened to see Belle as he was walking. You must have some pretty good eyes). Please, someone give directions from Gangnam Station. Seriously. I've been out twice with no luck.

BTW, I live across from Zest in Gangnam and go there every once in a while when it's too cold to take the bus to a RLD. There was a sign in Korean on the door and no answer. Could be closed for the night, or good. Not sure.

3 date rule in Korea.

If you aren't banging on the third date, move on.

[QUOTE=Seoul Food]3 date rule in Korea.

If you aren't banging on the third date, move on.[/QUOTE]

confirm -

By the way this 3 date rule isn't restricted to Korea. It’s almost a global rule across he globe, (not counting strict Moslem countries here, where you wouldn't even consider dating).

One more Korean common praxis/ experience, (more a hint also):

You should date in a way that some dating across the dating course takes place in your apartment, for whatever good reason you may have - be creative.

My common experience in Korea: if she is once in your apartment and door to outside world is closed, then you can almost bet 100% you will bang her.

Girls are time restricted here and live at home at her parents and rather rare will stay over night, but also have needs for sex, while still need to go home anyhow later.

This can create amazing effects for westerners inexperienced with Korean girls like: you may not even have kissed her during your being together during your dating, but it is not an exception that about 5 minutes after you entered the apartment you may both be out of the clothes and start banging already.
So don't run an over romantic strategy in the sense of western women approach.
Korean girls thinks this way: She agreed to come with and sex is definitely not excluded and also she has to go back home anyhow. So she doesn't want to waste too much time with chatting, drinking etc. So approach rather quickly then slow, when in your apartment.

When doing sex you can spend your time and when you take care of here while doing so and give her high attention you ma easily be the top guy in her life so far and she wants more and more and more as a result.

Please consider.

3 dates and no progress aren’t worth more dating. Recheck if you play over romantic.

Regards

Brain666

Sorry, didn't go through all reports on that subject before I wrote the last comment. So here some more comments.

@ Sfinil:
This is connected to what I wrote and experienced:
Most of the time a girl in Korea agreed to come to your room, she will be ready for sex at the end and kind of expecting it. If she wouldn't at all be interested, she wouldn't consider to come. So when she comes, then she is also most probably ready for sex. Previous talks are regarding coffe only (not sure if I understood correrctly) are just bullshit. You shouldn't discuss such things upfont.

Make the visit for her interesting and tell her you have a wine which you think fits to her. In such a case, I made best experience with a rose wine. A rose can create a good atmosphere, especially if you can tell some story why you think it fits to her.
You can also buy a piece of none heavy cake (e.g. there are some strwaberry cake snacks at Hyatt hotel Bakery) as another opener.

If atmosphere starts smoothly, it won't take long and you can move to the bedroom. Have a story in mind that you want to show her something in your appartment (which turns then out to be actually in the bedroom). There should be really something on display you can tell a funny/ interesting story about and around (don't foget to bring the glasses). I am sure it will work.

If she missunderstood your intention and doesn't want any contact when you start then approaching, then just forget it and let her go. Not worth to bother further then.

Key is really more, if she really will call you and confirms thd date (didn't you secure her phone number??, whats that for a strategy, korean girls easily give her phone number, that brings you in passive then active position).

As said: if she will come to you, you will most probably end up 'coming'.


@Ezinho:
3 dates and no progress isn't worth more efforts. You should work on your approach strategy! Dating in in Outback 1 time may be ok, but 3 times? As I mentioned before, you should plan the dating in a way, that this includes visiting your appartment for some reason, even if it is just to pick up your car key. Should have happened already the 2nd. time.

Give her a last chance and if you can't prepare her for beeing interested to visit your home for some reason, then its not worth any further effort. She will know that it is time to decide: fuck him or not, and you will know that when she is not interested to visit you, that time has come for you to move on and target next candidate.


Regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980]I went to Miari yesterday afternoon for a session. I paid 100,000 for 2 shots and picked a nice slim girl with decent B-cups.

Anyway, after the first round she went for a shower. I waited almost 20 minutes for her to return and when she did she told me to be quiet. I asked her what was wrong and in our broken English/Korean exchange, she told me that there was a Korean man in the building, and he didn't like waygookins going there. I don't know if this man was a customer, or some kind of pimp.

She also said that he would call the police if he knew I was there. That part sounded like BS to me, but maybe he would have caused some kind of shit if he saw me.

So, this is just a warning for any foreigners thinking of going there.[/QUOTE]

This has happened to me so many times it does not even phase me anymore. Not that it ever did anyway, but it is unsettleing the first time.

One funny time in an An Ma, I was on my way out and the mama rushed me into a door and told me to lie down and be quiet. Funny part, this was were the girls were sleeping, so I suddenly found myself laying down in between three girls laying down watching TV. Two Koreans and one Filipina. The filipina smiled at me and we kind of had wispering conversation for a few minutes.

Reflecting back now, kinda weird these chicks just lay around in these tiny rooms waiting for some guy to come along and fuck them. Nice looking girl though. I always seem to get rushed in and out of these places though by some Korean who doesn't want anyone to see me. So do I really look that bad?? heheh

take care over there, getting laid over here is way too difficult.

oh yea, and the third date rule is worldwide

This might sound like a real newbie question, but is it risky to pay for services using a card? I was in Itaewon last night and I had no cash, so I used my bank card. If these places get busted, could it come back to me?

I wanted to post a warning.

By the way, the posting of late has been good. Keep it up.

Returning to the warning.

The sex shop, the one as you walk towards hangangjin stn, offers vitamins, however, they are expired product, by almost a year.

Does anyone know if the other shop on the hill offers legit vitamins, perhaps another shop?

[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980]This might sound like a real newbie question, but is it risky to pay for services using a card? I was in Itaewon last night and I had no cash, so I used my bank card. If these places get busted, could it come back to me?[/QUOTE]


It could, next time try the ATMs in the 7-11 type stores to make a withdrawal.


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[QUOTE=Daviddawkins]I wanted to post a warning.

The sex shop, the one as you walk towards hangangjin stn, offers vitamins, however, they are expired product, by almost a year.

Does anyone know if the other shop on the hill offers legit vitamins, perhaps another shop?[/QUOTE]When did you attempt a purchase?

I've never had this issue with them.

[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980]This might sound like a real newbie question, but is it risky to pay for services using a card? I was in Itaewon last night and I had no cash, so I used my bank card. If these places get busted, could it come back to me?[/QUOTE]Of course, the mere use of a credit card in such an establishment falls short of proof of having done anything illegal, still, as described in the posts listed in a previous response, it could elicit heightened scrutiny and, if LEO, is determined to get you, will provide evidence of identity and presence to corroborate the testimoney that they will squeeze from the SP, which in the end is what will sink your boat.

Now, why don;t you tell us more about what you purcjased with your cc last night? Inquiring minds want to know.

If your credit card is Korean then they can track you down.

But with foreign cards the police cannot track.

By the way yongsan Rld is open again.

[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980]This might sound like a real newbie question, but is it risky to pay for services using a card? I was in Itaewon last night and I had no cash, so I used my bank card. If these places get busted, could it come back to me?[/QUOTE]

It depends on what services you played for. With regular hostess bars it should be no problem. For the special hill services I don't know.

I wouldn't expect a problem, so don't be over nervous. Also if it was a foreign issued card, it may be more complicated for Korean authorities, then a Korean issued card. But as said. Don’t be over nervous.

My pre caution: I always intend to pay cash in general and will not enter a shop w/o a pre defined budget. This is just for safety.

In doubt I rather would take cash advance from a credit card at an ATM instead of paying the bill with credit card at an erotic service place. Even if this is not the best most efficient use. As a European we have the good and rather cheap way of using the EC service which is actually MAESTRO cash advance service.

Korean Banks close 22:00h mostly, but 365 bank and the convenient stores have longer opening (at convenient stores probably around the clock). So my advice: better to catch up cash before entering services.

But again: don’t be over afraid, just prepare better next time.

Regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Carmex]This has happened to me so many times it does not even phase me anymore. Not that it ever did anyway, but it is unsettleing the first time.

One funny time in an An Ma, I was on my way out and the mama rushed me into a door and told me to lie down and be quiet. Funny part, this was were the girls were sleeping, so I suddenly found myself laying down in between three girls laying down watching TV. Two Koreans and one Filipina. The filipina smiled at me and we kind of had wispering conversation for a few minutes.

Reflecting back now, kinda weird these chicks just lay around in these tiny rooms waiting for some guy to come along and fuck them. Nice looking girl though. I always seem to get rushed in and out of these places though by some Korean who doesn't want anyone to see me. So do I really look that bad?? heheh

take care over there, getting laid over here is way too difficult.

oh yea, and the third date rule is worldwide[/QUOTE]

It didn't happen to me so obvious as mentioned, but in general, they try to avoid that Korean customers come in too much close contact or notice that foreigners are served here. They do it more or less sucessfull. For me it isn't that bad. I see, that the alternative would be to not serve foreigners when the fear is to bad, so I just accept this and with a smile it's way easier to handle.

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Daviddawkins]I wanted to post a warning.

By the way, the posting of late has been good. Keep it up.

Returning to the warning.

The sex shop, the one as you walk towards hangangjin stn, offers vitamins, however, they are expired product, by almost a year.

Does anyone know if the other shop on the hill offers legit vitamins, perhaps another shop?[/QUOTE]

not that i coinsiderd this yet: but does anybody know, how much the oroginal cialis and Viagra cost in Korea.

So why not just to get a dotcors prescription.

You may pay some fee in advance, but at the end it would onle be to get a new prescription.

regards

Brain666

With the crack down going on, are most of the RLDs closed down? I saw one report of Yongsan being closed. I would like to come into Seoul for some play and would like to check out Miari or make my way up north to Yongjugol. If anyone can confirm whether these RLDs are closed or not, I'd appreciate it very much.

I know Cool is popular. Actually, I don't know if people really enjoy it. But either way, I'm done with it. I went for the second time today and 75, 000 won is too much for what I get.

First the Good. The Girl tonight (Eun Bee) was a knock out, a 9 or a 10. She had the most incredible ass, and not an ass like Bin in Itaewon where she has a big ass because she's a big girl. Eun Bee is very slim and yet, I could still cup her ass in my hand and jiggle it (that's not an easy feat with Korean Girls). Anyway, she also allowed kissing. No tongue, but long closed mouth kisses were ok, unlike the other girl at Cool. And again, unlike Zest or Mint in Ilsan, she took her top off and I could feel, fondle, and suckle.

The Bad: Crappy massage. If I'm going to pay 75, 000 (more than FS at the RLDs), then I want a complete experience. I've been to other rub and tugs, and although some aren't aas personal and don't include what I just mentioned, this is the second time at Cool where the girl gave a half ass massage. I have real aches and pains and for 75, 000 I should get those taken care of as well. Also, I like when places do a sensual teasing massage. You know massaging my legs and thighs and gently letting a finger brush by my balls to keep me interested. This was 5 minutes of a bad massage and then 'turn over' and then a HJ. Not bad, but a waste of money considering I could be getting her from behind in a RLD. Not worth it.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Sound advice for ethnic Koreans regarding Itaewon. Many of the girls, especially the higher quality ones, are not welcoming of Koreans, in (large) part at least because the reason they are working in Itaewon and not elsewhere is that they want to minimize the risk of running into anyone they know.

Conversely, while helpful, Korean language skills are not likely to get the waegook into many of the places that cater to the locals. There are exceptions, many of the best of which are noted in the forum, but there are many, many more where foreigners (i.e. non-ethnic Korean) simply aren't welcome.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately my hotel reservation is in itaewon, and I would prefer not having to travel far in case I drink. I will not be driving so it will be subway, bus or taxi for me. Any recommendations since I will be staying in itaewon?

As for the "higher quality" will it help if I say that I am just visiting? I noticed that in the US, it helps if you are local since you are likely to be a repeater.

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]neukd,

don't worry about it. you just need to go to the right hunting grounds and be a bit more aggressive and you should do fine.

dh[/QUOTE]Well it has been several years since I have been to Korea and more than several years since I had a chance to P4P while in Korea.

If you (or anyone else) is willing to point me in the right direction, I will be staying in itaewon starting 5/14 and will be looking for some action after 5:30pm on 5/15 or 5/16 (not quite sure when I will be done with my work).

I am hoping that the people I am working with will take me out at least once to a Rsalon, or anywhere else, but I am not sure it will happen.

If anyone needs a korean pointman who isn't familiar with the landscape, but can speak the language, let me know.

[QUOTE=Zackary Kr]Actually, in the case of Korea (speaking as a Korean-American myself), it's a huge plus. No doors would be closed to you nor opportunities. The better your language skills, the better your experience, in my opinion.

However, a good and easy-going attitude is always appreciated no matter where you are in the world.

BTW, avoid itaewon if you looking for p4p (namely, Hooker Hill).

Good luck![/QUOTE]Which direction is hooker hill?

I will be staying at the hotel right in front of the itaewon subway station.

[QUOTE=Neukd]
I am hoping that the people I am working with will take me out at least once to a Rsalon, or anywhere else, but I am not sure it will happen.
[/QUOTE]

Being in Itaewon you are virtually in the middle of Seoul and thus everyrthing is accessible from your location and since you can speak Korean, it should easy for you.

If anything, ask your colleagues after a few drinks and I'm sure they can recommend where the locals like to frequent these days.

[QUOTE=Neukd]
As for the "higher quality" will it help if I say that I am just visiting? I noticed that in the US, it helps if you are local since you are likely to be a repeater.[/QUOTE]

Usually with most businesses a steady source of revenue is always a good thing so i would recommend you harden up and pretend that you come often for "business" reasons instead of "visiting".

[QUOTE=Neukd]Which direction is hooker hill?

I will be staying at the hotel right in front of the itaewon subway station.[/QUOTE]

That would be Hamilton Hotel, step out of the hotel cross the street and turn left at the first alley/street. Go all the way up pass the first intersection to get on the top of the hill but if you turn right at the intersection there are some clubs on that street too.

[QUOTE=Neukd]Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately my hotel reservation is in itaewon, and I would prefer not having to travel far in case I drink. I will not be driving so it will be subway, bus or taxi for me. Any recommendations since I will be staying in itaewon?

As for the "higher quality" will it help if I say that I am just visiting? I noticed that in the US, it helps if you are local since you are likely to be a repeater.[/QUOTE]Hh in response to your other question is up the street next to the Fire Station. The Hill proper is on the first alley to the left, but there are also clubs on either side of the main street as you go up, especially near the top just below the turn-off to the left for the third alleyway (Cabin, Moulin Rouge, Nymph, ING, Peach Phuzz, Apple, etc), as well as a couple of past their sell by date places down the first alley to the right. The second alley on the left is probably off your itinerary unless you like adam's apples, large hands and extra bits of plumbing. Which can also be found at a few places on the "hill", e. G. , Madrid (although the inhabitant there is missing the fire hose).

The answer to the quoted question is YMMV. If you don't quite look like a Korean Korean or a longterm Gyopo returnee (likely, I'm told, if you've lived abroad for a good while) and seem to the SP to speak colloquial english (and not Konglish) you may do alright. Take a shot! You don't have much to lose except a few minutes of your time. Best bets for the high quality (and (relatively) high-priced spread are Peach Phuzz (the potentially most expensive and most selective), Ambrosia and Texas (only there generally after 10-11)

Well, was on the Hooker Hill this again this weekend and I must say I had a great time. I think I have been in most of the places on the hill the past couple of years and I have my favorite girls. Yall know, Mindy and her friend that works at the first bar coming from the bottom on the left. Well, I like to walk through from time to time to see if there is any new blood. You know some that just comes in from time to time to make some quick cash, and was I surprised. I ran into a girl name Kelly on Saturday night. I forgot the name of the bar but its the first one on the right coming from the bottom of the hill. She around 30 but still looks good. Cute face, nice firm ass and tits too though. Man does she give a great slooooww blow job. The sex was a lot of fun too. She definately was not in a rush. Will definately go back if I see her again. You all have fun out there and remember that the Hill isn't so bad. Can have great times there and many are down for hooking up outside the bars if your cool and polite to them.

[QUOTE=Dj Yella] I ran into a girl name Kelly on Saturday night. I forgot the name of the bar but its the first one on the right coming from the bottom of the hill. She around 30 but still looks good. Cute face, nice firm ass and tits too though. Man does she give a great slooooww blow job. The sex was a lot of fun too. She definately was not in a rush. Will definately go back if I see her again. You all have fun out there and remember that the Hill isn't so bad. Can have great times there and many are down for hooking up outside the bars if your cool and polite to them.[/QUOTE]In guess you're talking about VIP. A joint I generally avoid because it's a barracuda pool. But I think I noticed the same SP there 5-6 weeks ago. I was seriously tempted, but was already on another mission, so passed, making a mental note to return. On the several later occasions when I did, though, I couldn't find the SP in question. I think, as you suggest, that she is one of the more casual players, probably driven into the game by the economic downturn.

Glad you had fun :) Kelly's cool. I've known her off and on for about 5 years. She's been in and out of the game for a while. I didn't know she was spending time at VIP, although she worked there a couple years ago. I think her usual haunt these days is the Moonlight, just up the Hill from VIP. She's been out of my rotation for a while but I chat with her and have a drink when I have time to kill; like I said, she's a pretty cool chick. Great FS and BJ, although she isn't into anything too kinky (if u don't count a little ass slapping).

Peace,

Korvet

... I ran into a girl name Kelly on Saturday night. I forgot the name of the bar but its the first one on the right coming from the bottom of the hill. She around 30 but still looks good. Cute face, nice firm ass and tits too though. Man does she give a great slooooww blow job. The sex was a lot of fun too. She definately was not in a rush. Will definately go back if I see her again.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]The answer to the quoted question is YMMV. If you don't quite look like a Korean Korean or a longterm Gyopo returnee (likely, I'm told, if you've lived abroad for a good while) and seem to the SP to speak colloquial english (and not Konglish) you may do alright. Take a shot! You don't have much to lose except a few minutes of your time. Best bets for the high quality (and (relatively) high-priced spread are Peach Phuzz (the potentially most expensive and most selective), Ambrosia and Texas (only there generally after 10-11)[/QUOTE]So, if I'm reading this right, outside of Itaewon the more Korean you seem the better, but in Itaewon the more American you seem the better?

[QUOTE=Adventurous Abc]So, if I'm reading this right, outside of Itaewon the more Korean you seem the better, but in Itaewon the more American you seem the better? [/QUOTE]Bingo! In fact, outside the 'ville, there are far more places than not that will refuse a foreigner than invite him in and, as reported earlier, even in the places that are "foreigner-friendly" there's a high likelihood of having to put up with the mood-busting "hide from the ego-challenged local male chauvinist" syndrome. Overseas Koreans have a better chance in Itaewon, but they have to work it. I cruised up the hill late yesterday afternoon while in the 'Won on other business to see what sort of matinee partners might be available. Most places weren't open, but a surprising number were, suggesting that business is bad enough to have induced the SPs to keep earlier and longer hours. The other signs were the invitations to come in and have a drink or three on the house. One of which I accepted purely to be sociable. LOL. I used the time to chat up the two girls there about business in general, LEO's recently publicized sweeps, etc. Etc. They confirmed that business was down, which was confirmed by their repeatedly outnegotiating themselves for "a good time" by steadily lowering their offer price while I said and did nothing except drink my free Hennessey and see how low they would go. End result was a threesome offer for 2 hours for KRW 200K, which I declined as I simply wasn't switched on; might have gone lower if I stayed around longer. They also said that, newspaper reports of closer police scrutiny notwithstanding there has been no recent LEO acitivity on the Hill, except that occasioned by the incidental dust-up between drunk foreigners. Finally, in response to my direct question, both confirmed their active unwillingness to have anything to do with local Koreans and their generally reluctant but very cautious willingess to consider an overseas Korean who doesn't seem like he's re-assimilated to the characteristic (bad) behavior of bona fide members of the local tribe, which they described in some detail. Don't shoot the messenger, guys, just passing along the intel.

Also noticed some new faces in a couple of the places at the high end of the Hill in the last block of joints on the left as you're going up. At least one looked like a potentially tasty morsel indeed.

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Lotsa clock-watchers and 20-minute girls. Hurry hurry hurry are you finished? It's cheaper than the Hill but that's a lotta hassle for 70. There are a few providers up there with great racks and an ass to match. There are also a lot of older women who should be payin me. A few of them were oldies but goodies tho'. One had a nice rack and quoted 50. Shied away wondering why the price was so low. Even one of the main row girls tried to flag me down, but I figured she was gonna quote something like 150 or more for the usual time. Did I mention I hate to hurry? Fifteen minutes? I told she was crazee.

The hill is okay, the girls at Lily are my type. A little heavy with d-cups. The skinny girls on the hill are tighter than ticks and complain if you're bigger than pinky finger. Some of the girls on the hill will go as low as 90 or 80, but I don't score real high on the repulsion scale so maybe I got something going for me.

I want to check out Cheonyangi, since my Korean skills are adequate for this sort of transaction. Miari sounds good as well. But I wonder about pricing. Are we just getting hosed in Itaewon, like we do with every other transaction there? Do we pay a lot more than what Korean dudes pay or is it about the same?

About the satyrisis enhancements: vitamin V and C go for ten clams, but the V gives me a headache like a mofo. I get real aggro and it kinda ruins the satisfaction of getting drained.

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[QUOTE=Neukd]Which direction is hooker hill?

I will be staying at the hotel right in front of the itaewon subway station.[/QUOTE]
Alright, I'll help ya out. But, it's so easy to ask most people around that area since it's such a common place.

Anyways, after you leave Hamilton and your back is to the entrance, turn left (at the Subway entrance). Hard Rock Cafe will pass to your left. Go up to the very first crosswalk. You'll see Helios Bar in front of you and you'll see a gas station diagonally across from you. Turn right and cross the crosswalk.

Go up the street and make a left at the first intersection. As you make the left you'll see a steep hill and neon lights. A mix of some bars at the top, such as Polly's Kettle.

Good luck!

I'm currently staying in Renaissance Hotel Seoul. Please advise where can I get some good massage+special service near my hotel?

What about take aways? Is this trustworthy? Overpriced? Any better options?
[url]http://www.bobosmassage.com/[/url]

Language barrier is the biggest problem for me and I have no idea where to go.

Detail instruction will be very much appreciated.

I followed the directions indicated and reached cool yesterday afternoon. The door opened and I sensed that the guys inside had been keeping an eye on me through CCTV.

I paid 75000 KWN, had my shower and went into the room assigned to me. I was lucky enough to get a really hot girl with firm breasts and she took off her top and allowed me to roam her underneath her skirt as well. I think that anything is possible if the girl likes you. Good looks can make a change.

Anyway, I had a good time. I even received multiple Hand jobs. WOW. I think I will be paying cool another visit soon.

I think that Cool is better than Sporex. Cheaper and more worthy. IMHO.

Forgot to report from last weekend:

Last weekend from Saturday to Sunday I was coming back from some company event with my car (very low alcohol level- better usually in Korea not to drive when partying) and while on the way home, I remembered the report of the streetworker scene around the namsan tower road to Hyatt hotel. Not intending to use services there, but a scene overview was at least what I wanted to get.

So went there and drove the namsan road (so to say from Hilton Millenium to Hyatt hotel). Yes there are some. They are more close to the Hyatt hotel entrance in a range around 3-500 m towards hilton. Mostly at the right side on the way towards the Hyatt.
It was arouind 0:30h- 1:00h when I cruised around. Counted about 6 (+/-2) and not sure who was maybe busy. Quality in the mid range, rating 5-7 at max, average maybe around the 6. Drove slowly and they come to your car. 1 Stepepd in and it seems several options available from in car sex to opt for a hotel. Recieved a BJ offer for 50k. So not unreasonably expensive and I would say ok. No further quoted. They may have car sex options near by.

I would expect the expected price level more close to the Itaewon Hooker Hill lower offers. but someone may need to explore further.

Given the point that it only makes sense to consider the streetwalker option when you have your car with you and the rather low number of selections, I would expect that the Hooker Hill in Itaewon has the better options if you want to spend money on purchased sex.

Someone may need to check later times as well. The Hyatt disco (JJ Mahoneys) is very close and around 1-3:00h at its prime time and all know that the one or other hunting girl is there to fish for options (way more beautiful, but way more expensive) aiming the guys with hotel rooms, but also some normal private none hooker girl's (freebees) can be fished there.

regards

Brain666

I have been a regular at JJ Mahoneys at the Hyatt recently. I go most every Friday.

I had heard that there were working girls there, and I usually look at the bar on the dance side of the club (as opposed to the live band side) to see if I can spot any providers, but never do.

Anyway, a couple of weeks ago I was leaving on Friday night after midnight and was standing in the taxi line in front of the hotel. The girl behind me in line returns my smile and asks, "Where are you going? " Home, I say. "I go with you? " she asks. Bingo.

We started talking, I was somewhat interested, but not ready to commit. She was bothered by the Korean guy in line behind her who seemed a little too curious about our private conversation. She suggested we walk away to somewhere more private, and we did. She had a smoke and we had a friendly negotiation as a few people walked by (at the top of the stairs that connect the outside entrance of JJs with the front of the hotel).

Her first offer was for 300K. I told her "Honestly, I don't know how much I have, but it's not that much. Probably only 80-100K. And I'm not going to pull out my wallet and count it now, " because that's too tacky. So we kept talking and finally she says "Let's go. "

I opted for her place south of the river, rather than my place further away. We got in a taxi. She lives in Apkujeong.

We sat on the sofa and she asked me to pay her first. I pulled out my wallet, and discovered that I had 70K. She accepted it. I was ready to offer to go to an ATM in the morning if she put up a fuss.

Nice apartment! I took a shower, waited for her to take hers, and we got in her nice big bed. The mood was relaxed, but certainly not GFE. She's got great tits, but a little bit of a belly. I'd say she is in her late 30s.

I went down on her, then she started giving me a blow job in return, and she climbed on top. I wasn't feeling it, so moved her into missionary and came after a few minutes. Sweet, if unspectacular.

I spent the night and there was kissing, stroking, and sucking in the morning. I could have gone for a second round but wasn't in the mood.

I don't think I'd seen her again, but enjoyed the experience. It was nice to relax in a big, clean, comfortable apartment high above the city.

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Anyone have any recommendations for girls in Itaewon with large natural chests? I'm sure I can go out there and just look, but if anyone has any favs or know of girls that might work on weekdays (weekends fine too), please give you pick.

I hadn't been to Hyatt in a long long time, but was there late Friday night. Lots of very nice pros and semi-pros. I think a blind guy in a wheelchair could score there. Didn't get pricing, though.

[QUOTE=Vox Jox]I have been a regular at JJ Mahoneys at the Hyatt recently. I go most every Friday.

I had heard that there were working girls there, and I usually look at the bar on the dance side of the club (as opposed to the live band side) to see if I can spot any providers, but never do.

Anyway, a couple of weeks ago I was leaving on Friday night after midnight and was standing in the taxi line in front of the hotel. The girl behind me in line returns my smile and asks, "Where are you going? " Home, I say. "I go with you? " she asks. Bingo.

We started talking, I was somewhat interested, but not ready to commit. She was bothered by the Korean guy in line behind her who seemed a little too curious about our private conversation. She suggested we walk away to somewhere more private, and we did. She had a smoke and we had a friendly negotiation as a few people walked by (at the top of the stairs that connect the outside entrance of JJs with the front of the hotel).

Her first offer was for 300K. I told her "Honestly, I don't know how much I have, but it's not that much. Probably only 80-100K. And I'm not going to pull out my wallet and count it now, " because that's too tacky. So we kept talking and finally she says "Let's go. "

I opted for her place south of the river, rather than my place further away. We got in a taxi. She lives in Apkujeong.

We sat on the sofa and she asked me to pay her first. I pulled out my wallet, and discovered that I had 70K. She accepted it. I was ready to offer to go to an ATM in the morning if she put up a fuss.

Nice apartment! I took a shower, waited for her to take hers, and we got in her nice big bed. The mood was relaxed, but certainly not GFE. She's got great tits, but a little bit of a belly. I'd say she is in her late 30s.

I went down on her, then she started giving me a blow job in return, and she climbed on top. I wasn't feeling it, so moved her into missionary and came after a few minutes. Sweet, if unspectacular.

I spent the night and there was kissing, stroking, and sucking in the morning. I could have gone for a second round but wasn't in the mood.

I don't think I'd seen her again, but enjoyed the experience. It was nice to relax in a big, clean, comfortable apartment high above the city.

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At least 1/2 the SW'S between the Hyatt and Hilton are TS. Some of them work the hill area and then head to that stroll around 10pm.

[QUOTE=Taloha]At least 1/2 the SW'S between the Hyatt and Hilton are TS. Some of them work the hill area and then head to that stroll around 10pm.[/QUOTE]

my short round trip was to short for generalization, but when I drove by my TS alarm got on a low level warning, which means: need to be whatched out in case of deeper negotiation. As I didn't want to do anything anyhow, I didn't further investigate. But I wouldn't be surprized if it turns out true.
Due to selections available, given the TV risk in addition, I think the hill is the better option.

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Globe Spinner]I hadn't been to Hyatt in a long long time, but was there late Friday night. Lots of very nice pros and semi-pros. I think a blind guy in a wheelchair could score there. Didn't get pricing, though.[/QUOTE]

Not sure if you can genaralise like that, but if you judge like that and say 'lots of', then I wonder why you haven't been approached from at least a selection of the lots of?

But IMHO I do not count opting and agreeing for purchased sex as 'score'. Everybody can do in fact almost at any place where such supply is on offer, open or not, just depending on the padding of the wallet.

Score for me is to fish out the freebees available, or respectively clear/ convince none pro's for one night stand's or a bit more out of the crowd.

regards

Brain666

I saw a few references to Miari.

This is pretty much my go to place now. Id say easily half of them will not take non-Koreans. Seems to me if you go during off peak times they are more then likely to let you in but I am at the point where I go to the same 2 (houses). I have established being a regular and I get amazing service.

There are two particular women that go out of there way to please me and I can take all the time I want. I usually leave tipping the ajumma so now they love when I come in. The two girls are solid 9s and they do it all.

We actually exchanged phone numbers although they know very little english and my korean is awful but we manage to keep in touch.

I was able to do a threesome, and have one of them visit me in a near by hotel.

All in all I recommend Miari, just go the right times and do not be afraid to "window shop".

Hey. I would like to open up something. What are some foriegn friendly Barbershops? I am not interested in Ahma's so much but a place that will do a really good massage and close with happiness.

I tried a few in Daegu and I love it but would love to know if you guys have any good recommendations in Seoul.

Thanks

Visited the SPOREX the other day and got no happy ending, although the massage was good. I did get asked the question if I was a Soldier for some reason which I am not and said no....maybe I should have said yes. Not sure if because of a crackdown.
Anyone have driving directions to COOL or landmark for GPS input closeby?

[QUOTE=SoulCracker25]I saw a few references to Miari.

This is pretty much my go to place now. Id say easily half of them will not take non-Koreans. Seems to me if you go during off peak times they are more then likely to let you in but I am at the point where I go to the same 2 (houses). I have established being a regular and I get amazing service.

There are two particular women that go out of there way to please me and I can take all the time I want. I usually leave tipping the ajumma so now they love when I come in. The two girls are solid 9s and they do it all.

We actually exchanged phone numbers although they know very little english and my korean is awful but we manage to keep in touch.

I was able to do a threesome, and have one of them visit me in a near by hotel.

All in all I recommend Miari, just go the right times and do not be afraid to "window shop".

Thanks[/QUOTE]Point taken and good report, but how about sharing the location of these sure things for the weiguk-saram?

TIA

[QUOTE=Kevinace]I'm currently staying in Renaissance Hotel Seoul. Please advise where can I get some good massage+special service near my hotel?

What about take aways? Is this trustworthy? Overpriced? Any better options?
[url]http://www.bobosmassage.com/[/url]

Language barrier is the biggest problem for me and I have no idea where to go.

Detail instruction will be very much appreciated.[/QUOTE]

I tried Bobo's service the other night and while it was expensive, 320,000 (they add a taxi fee). The email correspondence was in English and the owner even called to tell me the girl would be late.

The girl was a true college student and provide good service. She was also pretty. Normally the girls are little low class but this was truly a college girl working to pay her school fees or buy a designer bag. She was of similar quality in looks to an upscale room salon girl but better service. She only spoke a little English but I speak Korean so communication was not an issue. The owner does have good English and make arrangements was easy.

I went to the massage parlor near the Grand Intercontinental. When you go out of the hotel you turn right and walk past the Hyundai Mall. Then you turn right again. A bit further on your left there is a sign saying Massage. It is in the basement. Basically, it is not about massage, which is very basic, but just about a hand job. Actually, I was more into a massage, so it was not so good for me. The lady however was very beautiful. You can touch her, but no sex. Damae 80 KWon, which was too much.

Last few weeks has been closed.

Anyone know what happened or perhaps they have moved?

Took a trip to Belle and had this super tall, long haired girl as my attendant. She had 3 tats including a big ship of some kind on her lower back. Name completely escapes me but she said she works evenings until 12 or 1.

Overall a 10/10 session. Great massage, lots of lotion on the ass with nice fingernail action. CIM BJ in 69 position. DATY with great enthusiastic face grinding. If I was packing a dome I could have had FS. HOT package but keep what happens behind the curtain on the hush hush.

8000 times better than Cool. Last 4 experiences were horrible.

Hi Seoul residents and visitors, but this recommendation is probably only good for residents.

I want to share my recent adventures and come up with some new info, maybe not so much discussed here so far.

There is a reason why I did not participate and report in purchased sex activities.

Reason: about nearly 3 months ago I signed up for 2 partnership WebPages dedicated for contacts in Korea and then the hell broke out.

In the past year I was only randomly visiting the purchased entertainment venues as I was more concentrated and rather successful in the freebee pick up scene.

But since I signed up, just as an appetizer, I have more pussy on offer and availability then I can handle (there is a Job also to be done).

OK let me tell a bit.

So towards end of Feb. I signed up for two WebPages, Korean Cupid and UB Love.
I used some option and took a paid subscription, which has some advantages, as it is better to handle beside my job.

I filled in the profile honestly with my real age, size and weight and honest married status. I wrote who I am and what I want, as it is usually requested in such pages. So no fake intended to potential interests. I didn’t add a photo, as the WebPages are used by many people incl. the females of our company (I assume) and didn’t want my face appear there and be subject of talks and rumours. I am not young anymore (in the second half of humans life expectation) and my body shape is far from the one of a mussels man (Adonis), with some belly still to be trimmed (not ugly, but could be clearly better).

So I didn’t really expect any response from females initiative and probably a hard job, if not impossible asking task to contact myself. So far the low expectations started as a joke and a hint from a co worker. My buddy signed up the same time, but he is 10 years younger, single and should be more a target for the females in search for love, a boyfriend and marriage.
So far the theory.

What happened was surprising and I still can’t figure: he gets about only 1/3 rd to 1/ 4 th of female initiated contacts! Wow – this was not expected.


Back to my responses:

There is a continuous flow of females who contact me on their own initiative. It started with about 3-4 per week in the beginning and now it’s down to about 2- 3 per week.

After that you may enter in a chat and many times the chat where you exchange info Q&A etc. and ends in exchange of E-mail address and phone number. Next is that a selection of this contacts lead to actual dating and with a further selection of dated women you end in the pillows doing sex.

Now the unbelievable: in 10 weeks I collected about 17 phone numbers, I have about 5-6 girls/ ladies where I more or less frequently have sex with and probably another 5-6 in a kind of waiting loop (at least where I consider a high probability that it is possible) and just can’t manage it timely and powerly.

My buddy had 2 contacts and about 5 phone numbers.



Now I will make a try for some explanation and will give some more info.


[b] [u] 1 ) How does it happen, that an older married guy gets so many contacts? [/u] [/b]

Most of the contacts I got (80%+ ?) have been based on female’s initiative.

When I contact myself, which I now don’t do anymore, then usually female will check the profile immediately, see me as an older married guy w/o photo and thinks ‘what an idiot’. That’s maybe true for > 70% of the females signed up who may look for a soul mate and long-term partnership and I can imagine that they get quite a number of such contacts each day she is online.

So females who contacted me have definitely selected me actively to be worth to contact and may look for something outside of the ‘common’ boyfriend/ husband search. This can be something interesting in my profile and some own desire and curiosity beyond initial contact search.
My profile must have something, which obviously triggers (but I don’t know what it is). This can be language reason, age, marriage status, nationality, or just to meet foreign guys or (not really there inwords) some inbetween the line phantasy of some secret vibe or action.

My lessons learned: I do not contact females with chat anymore. Just wait if they contact me or ‘show interest’, which I can see. Then I will answer nicely and thank about the interest and ask when she may be online or such.

I contact only sometimes on own initiative by sending a mail (which you can do when having a paid subscription) and just tell that I like her photos, something in the profile, or ask some question, but do not request directly more contact. (E.G. no stupid unrealistic requests for dating a 25 year old single). Sometimes (but exception) more contact evolves out of that (20%)


[b] [u] 2 ) Who are the females contacting me and even had sex with me. [/u] [/b]

They are across all areas.
50% married/ fixed partnership, 50% single and on search for some more secret erotic adventure. (As it turns out then).
I have:
- University professor, husband with own company. 2 kids
- Wife (former model) of a Korean family conglomerate dynasty, no kids.
- School teacher, divorced in need for sometimes pussy satisfaction (some in wait loop)
- Regular office workers (single and married)
- Dentist Dr
- University student. (Only 1) (ha ha fucking professor and student, but different university)

They are really in a rather ok, good shape. I picked the more beauties whom I had more chemistry too as preferred sex partners. They are probably 7's per average in our ISG rating scale. Age range is 27 to 42).
They are really good educated (no exception), good discussion partners as well, good to perfect english skills and could be potential real partners as well. All the way through nice people you wouldn't believe. None Korean and foreign male and female co workers wouldn't either believe that I would bump 5-6 women in parallel and that I have sometimes 3 different girls in a week in my pillows.


[b] [u] 3) Who are the Females contacting me who I don’t have sex with? [/u] [/b]

As mentioned before, there is a kind of wait loop/ potentials, which can become potential partners.
Some (subset from above) are just keen of language contact, loose dating and w/o sex in plan. By the way these are also nice women and I maintain the contacts and go out w/o ending in sex, but learn new things like language etc. And who knows who may be then suddenly a partner, even w/o any push.


[b] [u] 4) Why do I manage to get E-mails, Phone numbers and datings out of chatting? [/u] [/b]

I am a gentle chatter and I am a curious person interested in many things. Listen and ask, explain and share own opinions. I also manage to gently chat through the critical term about wife, desire and such. Talk about sex is not my primary intention to be here I say, but depend on chemistry who knows … ).
Over time you get a feeling how things develop and I chat w/o any pressure to date it comes more naturally.
My buddy has some lack of chat skills. He is too direct sometimes and thinks he can be quicker. even my advice didn't help him yet.


[b] [u] 5) Why are the females I once had in my pillows desperate to come back? [/u] [/b]

This is related to the way I do sex with my female partners.
I can proudly say: Female once in my hands, melts down and will want to come back and have se with me again, even if this sounds unbelievable for some of you.

What happens when once in my hands:
- I am usually gentle and approach rather slowly.
- I have a habit to not fix to primary sex organs (pussy, breasts) early, but use hands, ears head, other parts for touching first.
- Find sweet spots where they are sensitive, and mostly they do not know them anyhow – so I am first to discover.

- I am a great kisser and kiss them everywhere, all body so to say. (Tip: did you kiss women’s eyes, did you kiss behind the ear?). Depending on their sensitive spots, they can get crazy.

- I completely step back and put myself second priority when making sex.
- I put extensive attention to female.
- ‘Eat them up’ all over before I come into play.
- Sex duration takes long time with me, playing around, playing with all body parts. This can be extensive.

I can’t produce many shots anymore like a young guy. So I save the shots, but I give long interrupted sessions and female may come 3-5 times before I do.

Women who ‘went through’ this/my way of lovemaking goes back home mega happy.
I often get the self-expressed feedback (who am I to ask such)) that she didn’t know that love can be such way. I position myself on the No 1 spot (or close) of her best sexual experience so far.

What is Korean women used by average and a little generalized (our Korean ISG members here may be different): Quickly remove clothes, touch with hands and kiss for about 5 min, do some 2 min BJ (not so much female pussy is licked), then sex in about 5-10 min. Total duration about 15 min max.
This is what I got described several times out of females mouth.

Out of this way, it is not difficult to climb their sex pole position with just one experience provided. And of course they want to come back and repeat.
They want to spend time here and lay around naked, walk around naked, play around naked, bath naked when here, things that they can not and have never done in life before so far. They play with my dick like a toy and can not imagine to ever do this woth their korean partner.

So they want to come back.

I have 2 who consider now, if they introduce me to their best friend. Seems that my reputation goes around in Seoul.


[b] [u] 6) Expense evaluation [/u] [/b]

I was coming from the freebee scene a long time already and had (direct) purchased sex reduced considerably the last year.
Now since I have such a success, I have driven the expenses to 0.
So currently: No Miari (I was a standard visitor there), No Anma, No Hooker Hill, no others (cool and co I necer visited) and therefore no expenses.

This are all freebees, but we all know freebees are not really free.

Now: the females I meet with, mostly come to have a good time incl. sex. I wouldn’t mind and also offer regularly dinner, go out, clubbing and such (I am not a Cheap Charly). But they basically don’t want it. Even towards the end of our sessions, when I offer, let have a quick dinner, they refuse and say: lets better have another h fun more.

So the spending I have is usually about a bottle of wine / session and some share of beverages, Rum, Whiskey, bread cheese ham, food etc. in my apartment. Sometimes some dinner (not luxury, just snack type). None of them expect and is keen on any luxury dining and wining environment. Secret satisfaction has priority.

That’s all.
It somehow boils down to about 20.-30.000 won/ bottle wine + whatever used to refill stocks I buy at the supermarket. And this for probably 2-5 h duration depending on time.


[b] [u] 7) Summary and some recommendations. [/u] [/b]

a) This additional option to get sexual contacts can only be reasonably done by residents here and residents who are single and partner is not constantly around. Sorry, maybe not good for short term visitors.

b) Consider that the use of the webpage to get additional sexual contacts is not successful by itself. It depends on how you use it and fill it, your attitude in writing, in chatting, in dating, in sex. Not different from any other female approach strategy, where also your skills are fundamental for success.

c) Don’t cheat through this system and hide too much and don’t play unfair. Fill in your profile and write something which may create interest.. Don’t cheat with age, weight, martial status.

Regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Quinella]Took a trip to Belle and had this super tall, long haired girl as my attendant. She had 3 tats including a big ship of some kind on her lower back. Name completely escapes me but she said she works evenings until 12 or 1.

Overall a 10/10 session. Great massage, lots of lotion on the ass with nice fingernail action. CIM BJ in 69 position. DATY with great enthusiastic face grinding. If I was packing a dome I could have had FS. HOT package but keep what happens behind the curtain on the hush hush.

8000 times better than Cool. Last 4 experiences were horrible.[/QUOTE]How did you get there? I have been looking for it for ages. Where in relation to the Prudential building is Belle. I have only found Cool and been too many times. I hate it but can't find Belle.

Sfinil,

Belle is on the opposite side of the street to cool. If you came from bang bang sageori walk towards cool and carry on past it and you'll reach an intersection. Belle is at that intersection on the opposite side from cool. The street its on looks like a dead end and has a hill behind it.

hope that helps

Hey all, I'm back in the ROK. Here is what I have so far:

I visited a 'night' (Korean for 'booking club') the other day (it was a weeknight).

I didn't know how to get into one, so I went on Naver.com and did a search for night clubs in Seoul and came across a few links, and I noticed a lot of the waiters advertising online.

I decided to use one by the name of 'Bodyguard', and I called him, and he told me the price. 280,000 KRW for a room (I don't like table, booth areas as they are too loud to chat with the girls). I told him that was fine.

I got to the club just before midnight. I went with a friend, and it was his first time at a booking club. I asked for 'Bodyguard', and he greeted me. He took us to the room, and then told me about the prices, but also explained the prices can be higher if we opt for better alcohol.

I decided to upgrade to JW Black instead of some other crap they had, so that added another 50,000 KRW, bringing the total to 330,000 KRW. I then tipped Bodyguard 20,000 KRW and told him to bring lots of hotties, and that I'd continue to tip him if he did well.

Well, for about the first two hours, we got booked with about 8 girls or so, maybe 4 each (me and my friend). I wouldn't say any of them were stunning, but some were fairly cute.

About half of them left in a hurry, and the other half overstayed.

Later on, as I looked out on the dancefloor, I saw it was nearly empty. I guess weeknights are pretty dead! Oh well... some other time then.

In total, we got booked with about 14 girls (7 each), and left the club around 4:30 AM. The total I tipped Bodyguard was 40,000 KRW, bringing the total cost to 370,000 KRW. Roundtrip cabfare was just under 40,000 KRW, bringing the total to just under 410,000 KRW.

Did we get lucky? No... but we could have. The last two girls who were 'booked' to us were clearly open to it. One was fairly sober and clearly horny and wanted to pounce my friend, even asking him where his hotel was (he was only in town for a few days). The other one, actually happened to be her friend, and she was clearly trashed and willing to bang anyone.

So why didn't we do it? Why not take these two young girls (both about 20~22 years old) to a motel and bang the crap out of them?

Let's just say, we have standards. If the girls were at least a 6, sure, we would have done it. But the 'sober' one had thunder thighs and an acne problem. The 'trashed' one was more attractive than her friend, but it's like comparing a 2 to a 3 (on a scale of 1-10).

Anyway, as my friend and I were leaving, we saw the two girls out there... and the fat one started talking to my friend again, clearly trying to get him to bang her. We just got in a cab and took off. As we took off, my friend looked back, and saw two other guys pick those girls up and the girls left with them. LOL, I guess they really were willing to bang anyone.

So I guess you can get laid at a booking club, so long as you drop your standards. My friend and I are more used to girls who look somewhat decent (as I'm sure all of you are), and we just couldn't do it.

So... was the night a waste of several hundred thousand won? Perhaps, but it was an experience, and life is about experiences. It wasn't the best, but now I know what it's like, and I may consider doing it again in the future, but it's not something I'm dying to do.

Anything good come out of it? Well... yes:

One of the girls that got booked to us, this super cute young thing with librarian glasses, a mini-skirt, and huge breasts on a slim frame. My god, she was hot. Not a beautiful face, but a very young, girl-next-door look. She had the face of a student, but the body of a stripper (well, a short one, as she was, maybe 5'2" at best).

Anyway, this girl, let's call her Hyori, she hung out in the room for over an hour, and we sang lots of songs together. She then left, but before she left the club, she came back to the room to say goodbye, at which point I got her number. She asked why I wanted it, so I told her "so we could have lunch together". She gave it, and I saved it.

I texted her the next day, no response, so I texted her again later that night mentioning something funny from the previous night, and she responded, which started a text conversation that lasted about an hour. Supposedly we are to meet this coming week, sometime during the weekdays, but we'll see if it pans out.

It's been a long time since I've wanted to bang a girl this badly, and this girl is my ultimate target for now. If I manage to do so, I will try to get her to take some pictures so I can have all of you see the body on this girl, who, by the way, was born in 1990. She'll be the youngest ever, and one of the hottest.

Wish me luck, guys.

PS: I'll have a report on an anma that I visited in Yeoksam-dong recently. In that report, I will tell you all about the best BBBJ from a Korean girl I've ever receieved (and second best BBBJ overall). She truly was amazing. Stay tuned.

Well, I was able to have a good time at Yongsan. I live in Gangnam and Yongsan is the closest RLD to my place, so I sometimes end up going there. Then I am always disappointed because I am able to find a good looking enough girl, but she always tells me to hurry and I am done within 15 minutes, so I never get a full experience.

Well, this time I went in there knowing it would be rushed, so I changed my expectations. Rather than trying for a "complete experience" with a little bit of foreplay, some CBJ and then a couple of quick positions, I decided, I'd rather do 15 straight minutes of my favorite: Doggie.

Also, I was getting tired of these hot little korean spinners that tell me I'm too big. I'm not that big, but I am longer than usual and I do like to go deep and hit the back wall as much as possible, so I understand if they get a stomach ache by the end, but seriously, I don't want to have to worry about that. So I got a woman who was a little thicker, not fat, but more junk in the trunk.

We went in, she cleaned me off, did about a minute of a BJ, then I turned her over on all fours and pounded her for about 10-15 minutes. I spent a lot of time looking in the mirror, I used different body parts of hers to get more leverage (held her hips, shoulders, pulled her hair.

By the end, I had my fill. Worked out great. Now that I have a strategy, I can go back and have fun anytime.

[QUOTE=Byung]Hey all, I'm back in the ROK. Here is what I have so far:

I visited a 'night' (Korean for 'booking club') the other day (it was a weeknight).
[/QUOTE]Please forgive my ignorance as I have never been to Korea and plan on visiting next winter. Byung are you Korean or a foreigner? Just curious if being a foreigner makes the girls not want to come to your room.

[QUOTE=Bradley1]Please forgive my ignorance as I have never been to Korea and plan on visiting next winter. Byung are you Korean or a foreigner? Just curious if being a foreigner makes the girls not want to come to your room.[/QUOTE]from what I see, he sounds like Korean. Even his I'd suggest that he is Korean. It maybe very possible that being a foreigner make it difficult. I wouldn't know because I am Korean-American.

[quote=sfinil]anyone have any recommendations for girls in itaewon with large natural chests? i'm sure i can go out there and just look, but if anyone has any favs or know of girls that might work on weekdays (weekends fine too), please give you pick.[/quote]cindy at lily. her body's not as tight as the 70 man won girl i see in yongsan rld, but she is really nice. she's soft, deep, and didn't kvetch about the size of my unit (which almost all the girls do. i mention this because guys with a smaller unit might get better service from more girls). she's only there fridays and on the weekend. she looks like a really hot ukranian girl or khazhakstani girl. she had that eye surgery. there aren't many girls out there who have eyes you spend any time looking at, hers are spectacular.

what the name of the place across the alley from lily? the girls there are small and their crevices aren't big enough to park a baby carrot in. whine, whimper, blah, blah, blah. that is not good service. i did see one girl there dressed up in a catholic school uniform who looked unusually young and fresh for the hill. the last two times i went there the girls did nothing for me. really not my types. also, what's with the ugly old chicks in the door? are you guys hitting that troll action?

the yongsan rld has had more cops there recently according to some of the girls. i actually saw them pull up as i was strolling through, but they didn't speak to me and the girls just told me to jog on. i just walked around to the side-street and found the tall girl with big butt and the great rack. funny thing is, the a-row gongju-byung (conceited/expensive bali-bali girls) have been flagging me down, not %100 but maybe %15-%20. business has been shit for them lately, so i thought they'd be less obsessed with the clock and more keen to try to set up some regular accounts/clientele. a guide to prices and negotiating tactics would be a huge help. fifteen minutes isn't enough for me. but i ain't paying $300 bucks for a half-hour. i'm not that bad at math.

there is one girl i keep going back to at yrld. man she's got a rack and an ass that are still firm, yet big enough to keep a guy interested in a full-grown women coming back for more. she's pretty cool too. many of the side-street providers are either too good for foreign length, or they look like they been at it since the japanese invaded the first time. where's a guy have to go to nail a shapely girl under 40 who's got globes on her chest instead of oblongs? the hefty girls are always deeper. i don't go for the spinners.

imho, a working girl's primary function is to pretend they like you, even just a tiny bit. so i really liked this chick because she was really charming. in turn, we have to be nice to them or they treat all of us like they have to run to the biffy. even though my korean is not so good, i can usually scrounge up the vocab to make small talk and have some pleasant banter. some of the girls on the hill have mentioned many guys don't treat them nicely. it really makes all the difference in the world.

if you hate saggy tits, beware of fallout, my brethren. if they look like they've been hoisted. there's a whole lotta push-uh action going on all over, i frequently don't know how busty they really are til they do their speed peel (so uninspiring! ).

if i have the luxury of time. where should i go for longer experience that isn't so hurried? how much should i think about spending? haven't been to miari or cheongyangyi yet, but i might check out the latter very soon.

[QUOTE=Daviddawkins]I wanted to post a warning.

By the way, the posting of late has been good. Keep it up.

Returning to the warning.

The sex shop, the one as you walk towards hangangjin stn, offers vitamins, however, they are expired product, by almost a year.

Does anyone know if the other shop on the hill offers legit vitamins, perhaps another shop?[/QUOTE]There's another place down the hill street directly across from T-intersection where the Hamilton Hotel is. You have to go down past the Austrian butcher, past the bus stop and you'll see the sign. It's black and white and I think there's some English on it. Trouble is, those guys are almost never open. When they are, they have C's and V's.

Went to Cheongyangi today. The place was peppered with cops and, I'm no stranger run-down shitty neighborhoods (I do live in Korea, after all) but man that place looks a bit desolate. There was a very unwelcoming vibe there as well, and the only women that waved at me, well. I've seen prettier faces on a Korean totem pole. I imagine it it's heyday it was pretty impressive. It's quite huge but most of the shops have closed. The were some sixes and sevens, but most of the girls not tempting at all. I gathered it was a place foreigners don't frequent, due to the obvious "go home" written on everyone's face that scrutinized me. Not fun, even from the standpoint of walking around and rubbernecking.

Hey there,

I'm currently in the area and have been pouring through all the previous posts but I'm looking for any information about action near the Millenium Hilton and the casino there. That's where I'm staying and I'm looking for some fun.

Please help me out and thanks a lot.

I was wondering if there are any grinding around in these handjob joints. I've been to cool and it wasn't that great. So I'm thinking about checking out either zest or belle. Are there any ass grinding allowed and also ass grabbing? How about titty rubbing on my dicK?

[QUOTE=Poohoopoo]I was wondering if there are any grinding around in these handjob joints. I've been to cool and it wasn't that great. So I'm thinking about checking out either zest or belle. Are there any ass grinding allowed and also ass grabbing? How about titty rubbing on my dicK?[/QUOTE]I believe zest is no more. Belle allowed dry humping and grinding.

[QUOTE=Leviatmore]Hey there,

I'm currently in the area and have been pouring through all the previous posts but I'm looking for any information about action near the Millenium Hilton and the casino there. That's where I'm staying and I'm looking for some fun.

Please help me out and thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]

Not to forget: the hill isn't more then maybe 10 min (and probably 3000 won)(if not less) by taxi. Just make sure to get a silver/ white taxi and not the black ones.

This is closest

Brain666

[QUOTE=Leviatmore]Hey there,

I'm currently in the area and have been pouring through all the previous posts but I'm looking for any information about action near the Millenium Hilton and the casino there. That's where I'm staying and I'm looking for some fun.

Please help me out and thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]

or you go down to seoul station take line 4, go to miari, exit 10 streight out and 10 m later turn right.
search for miari here.

Brain666