Phuket Reports

[QUOTE=Komnetkijken;2284462]I think you're referring to Soi Kepsap. Mediocre quality there as well. Those girls don't have any massage skills, only work for the extras. Some of them look ok, but IMHO not better than elsewhere.[/QUOTE]No I am not. Holiday Inn is on the next Soi along.

The following report is about my first experience at katherines massage at phuket and was so good that I had to write it doen. As detailed as I can so I don't ever forget.

I was horny from yesterday because I went to bangla road nightlife but had no shot because I was tired and almost fell to a ladyboy happy massage (tall woman, strange voice).

After some online research I wanted to visit Katherine's Massage parlor. Due to advise I made a line reservation with Emma for 3 pm.

When I arrived Emma seemed to be a bit tired and unmotivated. But her beautiful face and hot body with big tits and nice hips I could not decline my reservation.

After 2000 damage for 90 minutes (guess Happy Hour) We went upstairs and I had a drink while she was getting some equipment. When she came back we went for a shower together.

She explained that she was tired because she worked up to 5 am last night. I told her I wynt her to feel good and relaxed so today we will switch things up and I will massage her! She smiled at me and now I got into her.

We washed each other in the shower and that was already smoking hot because she turned her back to me and while she was rubbing her soapy ass at my dick I soaped her tuned but soft see cups and twisted her super nice nipples, kissing her neck, altering by soaping her pussy. Damn, that was one horny tease promising a AAA+ session.

We went to bed where she lay on her back and pulled me over for heavy french kissing while stroking my cock. I had to stop her because I really want to hold my promise and said she should turn around for massage. She laughed and asked how do I know how to massage? I said just enjoy and if its not ok tell me to stop. She. Laughed and turned around. Having a good time is the goal.

I started to oil her back which hold some nice angel tattoos. She also has a diamond on one of her boobs tattooed. I started massaging her back and shoulders and back. Went down to the ass, up again and while moving up I slided my dick up and doen between her oily ass. Lord, so hot! She moaned, seemed to enjoy my hard cock between her ass cheeks.

I went down to her butt again, massaging cheeks and legs, went between the legs, carefully sliding to the pussy and asshole, oiling it up. She moans up every time I got there. I intense the pussy massage, sticking in one finger, kissing her ass. She was nice and hot inside, I also rubbed my thumb on her asshole.

I told her to turn around for front massage. Oiled her boobs up, massaged all front beside the face and fingered her pussy some more. After a while she pulled me to her again and we french kissed heavily again. She stroked my dick at the same time which was very pleasing.

Then she asked me if its too hot and if she should change the A/C. We both stand up, she switched the buttons on the wall, looked at my dick, smiled at me and went on her knees. OMG I loved this! No. Condom, no ask, she knows what men wants! Blowjob was intense sucking, she slided with her long. Tongue to my balls and sucked them very good. All that while having eye contact and smiling at me because she saw that she is doing an excellent job I even could fuck her mouth a bit, didn't try to deep throat but didn't want to make it too porno.

I saw she was fingering herself after some time while sucking. I suggested 69 therefore to help her. She had nice pink pussy and no smell so I enjoyed licking and sucking her vagina, softly biting her ass and legs while she started with sucking balls intensively before going real hard on sucking my cock.

After 69 she turned around to me and we make out heavenly french kissing again. I love that dirty mindset. She wants to fuck, I can't decline that wish by the cute braced smiling Thai girl so she reached for condom but before putting it on she sucked dick again like she was really hungry for cock.

Next she pulled condom over and pulled me into missionary. I began real nice and slow, she clam me very close to her, so I rubbed my belly over hers while penetrating her slowly. I started to go faster but slowly increasing and almost blow the load but I just didn't want to do the minute man to her so I pulled out quick and instead french kissing her again. She smiled like she knew, what a bad girl.

I recovered and as you guys know if you made that spot once then you will be able to go for longer. Now I moved up to fuck her upfront holding her legs and have a good look how dick sliding into pussy, all the way from start to end of my dick. Great view!

I closed her legs for more intense, she was moaning heavily while I kissed and licked her toes. I opened legs again but bend over to her while her legs on my shoulder. She was flexible girl so I could kiss her again while fucking her.

Before my peak I pulled off again and lift her up to sat her down on my legs while sucking her tits. She began to ride me now. Slowly she was slipping my dick all inside her and started moving forward and backward, rubbing her clit at me. I enjoyed the view and feel of her tits while I am. Deep inside her vagina. I smack her ass, rub her whole body, grab her neck and put my thumb into her mouth. She sucked my thumb dedicated while riding my cock back and forth with devotion. She even bite me when I tried to pull out my thumb, not bad but she really was at it or at least she was acting excellent.

I started to actively drill her know while grabbing her ass really hard, she moaned heavily and when I almost came we relaxed and looked at each other. She said she came, so we kissed again for some time while she is still sitting deep on my dick.

She recovered quick so we both sit up, dick still inside the pussy and now we both fucked while sitting to each other on bed leaning back. She looked so gorgeous while she was rubbing her tits moaning while. My cock drilled into her hole, I will never forget!

We changed to doggy position so I stand up from bed while she offered me the perfect spot. I fucked her in doggy for some time and then pushed her down to her stomach on bed. Put a pillow under her first for better angle. When she closed legs in that position with that nice chubby ass I went so wild and could not hold any longer so I announced heavily breathing I will come now. I was so sweetened and exhausted I rested inside her pussy for some minutes and she smiled like she knew she did a fantastic job which she obv did.

We lay on bed for some conversation afterwards. She told me she really enjoyed time. With me and it felt to her like boyfriend experience. She would like to meet and change numbers but she is working for parlor and has no time for meeting except I rent her for 2 h for 13500 baht for 24 h.

From experience I don't think a second visit will ever be that good as the first one so I don't think I will go for her again but instead hold this as my truly 9.5/10 experience.

On my last days in Phuket I decided against a visit to Suzy's but instead go for a massage hunt at soi kepsap. Walked around the streets and got approached a couple of times until I finally found a nice looking lady smiling at me. She was cute and massage fee was 400,we later arranged FS but told its 2500 for FS. I declined but offered 1500 so we hit at 2 k but I still think she melked me here. Well, she was cute AF and had her whole back covered with tattoos, 2 kios on ass and now how to flirt with me so I couldn't resist.

We had decent massage and good fuck with little kiss, BJ with condom and little space 7/10.

So for that price I decided on my last day to leave Patong but go to Phuket Town again for another girl of Katherine's.

Had an appointment with Nadia. Very cool chick, good small talks and flirts, BBBBJ and French kiss even though she didn't had this listed as service so I really think she liked me like she told me, don't want to go to deep in details this time so another very nice session at Katherine's would say 8/10 since she was hot but not that same league as Emma when it comes to tits and pussy.

She gave me very good GFE though, cuddling and telling me she wasn't to go with me. Total damage 2000+350 tip. Katherine's is the way to go if you can't take them from streets to hotel guys.

Good reports Rick, especially on Emma. You're right, Katherines and the close by massage shops there are the ones to go to but can be a bit of a trek without a car for those who head straight to Patong. I've had a couple of decent massage shop experiences in Patong and others (particularly Bangtao, see Mine and Gunners reports on that one), but my preferred method is freelancers in Phuket.

Many people here have bad experiences in Patong / Phuket and like to put it down, but I like it. The freelance scene is pretty good and for those of us who don't like the late night clubs, it's pretty easy to gather some numbers for daytime action when they are not otherwise engaged. The girls are a lot more chilled out too. Had some incredible experiences over the years with some absolute stunners who have become my regulars and first call when I land in Phuket. Treat them you would a Thai GF, take them for lunch, treat them well and pay a little over the odds (the extra 500 - 1000 THB is much more valuable to them than it us us) and it will reward you in spades. That's the game, pretty easy to learn how to play it. Also Phuket is just a much more pleasant location for when you're not mongering. Get out of Patong and go and explore, I mean you can't be fucking 24/7. Right?! Erm, right?

Refreshing to see positive reports with detail, good work!

[QUOTE=RickFlair;2286888]On my last days in Phuket I decided against a visit to Suzy's but instead go for a massage hunt at soi kepsap. Walked around the streets and got approached a couple of times until I finally found a nice looking lady smiling at me. She was cute and massage fee was 400,we later arranged FS but told its 2500 for FS. I declined but offered 1500 so we hit at 2 k but I still think she melked me here. Well, she was cute AF and had her whole back covered with tattoos, 2 kios on ass and now how to flirt with me so I couldn't resist.

We had decent massage and good fuck with little kiss, BJ with condom and little space 7/10.

So for that price I decided on my last day to leave Patong but go to Phuket Town again for another girl of Katherine's.

Had an appointment with Nadia. Very cool chick, good small talks and flirts, BBBBJ and French kiss even though she didn't had this listed as service so I really think she liked me like she told me, don't want to go to deep in details this time so another very nice session at Katherine's would say 8/10 since she was hot but not that same league as Emma when it comes to tits and pussy.

She gave me very good GFE though, cuddling and telling me she wasn't to go with me. Total damage 2000+350 tip. Katherine's is the way to go if you can't take them from streets to hotel guys.[/QUOTE]

At DavidRim thanks mate, this one got so detailed because of Emma: really really good experience here. I had an even hotter looking girl in samuibut she wasn't that into me than I was into her or she was too tired I don't know. I just forget easily when things went meh, then the reports aren't that detailed.

ID love to pick up freelancers for long therm but unfortunately I'm not travelling alone. I will be excited looking forward to my next Thailand trip though.

Couldn't agree with you more David. Patong doesn't do it for me as it did a few years ago. I head out to the suburbs. Karon, bantao. Bangtao is an absolute gold mine. There are several diamonds there who are so humble and treat you with respect, unlike the leeches in patong who are used to the usual tourists.

As David said I found a few diamonds in bangtao.

Enjoy.

G.

[QUOTE=DavidRim;2287181]Good reports Rick, especially on Emma. You're right, Katherines and the close by massage shops there are the ones to go to but can be a bit of a trek without a car for those who head straight to Patong. I've had a couple of decent massage shop experiences in Patong and others (particularly Bangtao, see Mine and Gunners reports on that one), but my preferred method is freelancers in Phuket.

Many people here have bad experiences in Patong / Phuket and like to put it down, but I like it. The freelance scene is pretty good and for those of us who don't like the late night clubs, it's pretty easy to gather some numbers for daytime action when they are not otherwise engaged. The girls are a lot more chilled out too. Had some incredible experiences over the years with some absolute stunners who have become my regulars and first call when I land in Phuket. Treat them you would a Thai GF, take them for lunch, treat them well and pay a little over the odds (the extra 500 - 1000 THB is much more valuable to them than it us us) and it will reward you in spades. That's the game, pretty easy to learn how to play it. Also Phuket is just a much more pleasant location for when you're not mongering. Get out of Patong and go and explore, I mean you can't be fucking 24/7. Right?! Erm, right?

Refreshing to see positive reports with detail, good work![/QUOTE]

Hi all,

Planning to visit Phuket (Patong Area) in mid March. Any good recommendations for Soapy Massage?

I read about Nuru on Nanai road. Is it still there? Any specific reviews?

Cheers.

Seriously. You are a true manager class of the highest pedigree.

Read this forum a posts and you will get your answer.

G.

[QUOTE=Alphabeta2019;2288325]Hi all,

Planning to visit Phuket (Patong Area) in mid March. Any good recommendations for Soapy Massage?

I read about Nuru on Nanai road. Is it still there? Any specific reviews?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Alphabeta2019;2288325]Hi all,

Planning to visit Phuket (Patong Area) in mid March. Any good recommendations for Soapy Massage?

I read about Nuru on Nanai road. Is it still there? Any specific reviews?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Yes, the one on Nani Road, excellent place.

I was walking around in the Patong area of Phuket and whenever I saw a thin and attractive Thai masseuse I would ask if she offered full service. I would estimate I asked in about 20-30 different Thai massage parlours and they all offered full service in the price range of 1300-3000 Baht. It seems they have to pay the owner of the massage parlour 300 Baht per sex-session and it was impossible to bargain below 1300 Baht. I ended up choosing a cute woman, probably in her early thirties, at Thanon Ratuthit Songroipi, a few blocks north of Bangla Road. There were no cabins with real walls so we had do our act in the back of the massage parlour where there was a wide bed with space for 4 customers, separated by curtains. In the beginning there was another customer receiving a regular massage in the bed next to mine so we had to be quiet when she did some foreplay using body-to-body massage and a covered blowjob, but when the other customer left the act got going. It was a surprisingly good experience and she even orgasmed (she had spasms coming from her stomach) in the end when I was doing her doggy. Does anybody know if it's possible to have cheaper short term sex in Phuket, except on the little red light street of Phoonpon Soi 11 in Phuket Town?

[QUOTE=Truckdriver;2290943]I was walking around in the Patong area of Phuket and whenever I saw a thin and attractive Thai masseuse I would ask if she offered full service. I would estimate I asked in about 20-30 different Thai massage parlours and they all offered full service in the price range of 1300-3000 Baht. It seems they have to pay the owner of the massage parlour 300 Baht per sex-session and it was impossible to bargain below 1300 Baht. I ended up choosing a cute woman, probably in her early thirties, at Thanon Ratuthit Songroipi, a few blocks north of Bangla Road. There were no cabins with real walls so we had do our act in the back of the massage parlour where there was a wide bed with space for 4 customers, separated by curtains. In the beginning there was another customer receiving a regular massage in the bed next to mine so we had to be quiet when she did some foreplay using body-to-body massage and a covered blowjob, but when the other customer left the act got going. It was a surprisingly good experience and she even orgasmed (she had spasms coming from her stomach) in the end when I was doing her doggy. Does anybody know if it's possible to have cheaper short term sex in Phuket, except on the little red light street of Phoonpon Soi 11 in Phuket Town?[/QUOTE]Phuket I don't think you will find any good looking below 1000. Please let us know if you do.

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2291330]Phuket I don't think you will find any good looking below 1000. Please let us know if you do.[/QUOTE]Where are those good looking 1000-Baht women to be found in Phuket, except on Phoonpon Soi 11 in Phuket Town (if you happen to be so lucky to find a good looking woman there)?

Hi all,

Have a 4 hour layover in Phuket and wondering if there is anything near the airport since I won't have so much time.

Thanks!

How does one reach Katherine from Patong beach? What's the round trip fare for a taxi or bus?

[QUOTE=Mngr18;2291419]Hi all,

Have a 4 hour layover in Phuket and wondering if there is anything near the airport since I won't have so much time.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Google Naiyang. TI's a beach near the airport that has massage parlors and is a fun place to hang out. I usually stay there the night before my flight out.

[QUOTE=Alphabeta2019;2291584]How does one reach Katherine from Patong beach? What's the round trip fare for a taxi or bus?[/QUOTE]I would recommend taking a taxi for speed and safety unless you are willing to drive motorbike by yourself. Compromise would be motorbike taxi there is slow travel buses that will take you to nearby area in Phuket town. Avoid tuk-tuk unless you know how to deal with them.

I found this on something called internet:

"The blue songtheaws link Ranong Road to all Phuket beaches (the destination is written on each bus), and the pink songtheaws assure transfers between the three bus stations / terminals in Phuket Town. ".

Their homepage also details extensively how to find them!

[QUOTE=Mngr18;2291419]Hi all,

Have a 4 hour layover in Phuket and wondering if there is anything near the airport since I won't have so much time.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DCups;2291773]Google Naiyang. TI's a beach near the airport that has massage parlors and is a fun place to hang out. I usually stay there the night before my flight out.[/QUOTE]Make sure you know the situation with immigration since 4 hours is a bit tight. Check if there is many arrivals around yours and look if HKT offers express service for a fee like BKK that is possible to go for a massage 1-2 hours. Good luck!

[QUOTE=Alphabeta2019;2291584]How does one reach Katherine from Patong beach? What's the round trip fare for a taxi or bus?[/QUOTE]Why go to Phuket? Christins Massage has plenty of pretty girls right there in Patong. Think it was 3200 or some such when we were there. Maybe 30-40 girls with lots of selection. Low pressure fishbowl format. Had good sessions 3 out of 4 girls.

I think katherines charges you more if you go there by taxi. When I sent them an email asking about prices they said they could provide a taxi to pick me up, otherwise the taxi gets money from katherines and the price goes up to reflect that.

[QUOTE=Alphabeta2019;2291584]How does one reach Katherine from Patong beach? What's the round trip fare for a taxi or bus?[/QUOTE]

I've been into every single go go bar now. A lot of them are nearly empty with unattractive girls. I was at one where the girls literally just stuck out their hand for money and if you refused, they'the say they are hungry. It was sad AF. I def questioned what I was doing there.

The best one by far is Suzi Wong on the corner. There's more than 1. The girls in there are just gorgeous. I took a liking to one, but unfortunately I was led on. I don't think she intends to be barfined by anyone and will make an excuse why she can't be barfined when try. From my understanding they can't be barfined until after 2 am. My friend got this gorgeous Malaysian girl. I would have taken her if my friend didn't. The BF is 2 k and due to some special circumstances she waved her fee. Idk what it is but I think it's 5 k. The LD here is $240 and ofc they ask for a tip.

Nidea's is my 2nd fav. They have some beers for 89 b with LD at $250. You can take a girl upstairs for 5 k. The girls here are not as aggressive with LD pushing as SZ. After 10 min of talking to a girl I finally asked if she wanted me to buy her a LD. She wanted me to take her upstairs. Haha. I almost forgot, one of the girls got jealous because I bought an LD for a different girl. Supposedly I was claimed by her because I bought her a LD the other night. I bought her a LD cause she was nice, but I told her I wasn't interested in her so I don't understand how she can claim me and be upset.

Harmen is another good place. It's really big with girls dressed in white for nice and black for naughty. I guess the girls in black weren't as attractive because there weren't many people in that section. We got a table for 5 k and some girls showed up. I was only interested in this 1 girl but she got BF for 2 k and I'm not sure how much to her. I've heard some girls go for 5 k and others do 6 k. Supposedly some of the girls are off and will join us at Illuzion where we got a table too.

No other gogo is worth mentioning. Go earlier to get your picks. Seems to start popping off around midnight.

Also made it out to Sugar club. Nice place if you like hip hop. I think there's FL in there, not sure.

BF the same girl for the night. Was not cheap. BF 2 k + 6 k to the girl + 1 k hotel + $200 taxi + $500 taxi.

The place I got was unfortunately a shit hole so I didn't want to bring her there. My friend got a freebie that didn't happen because she said the place was bad. Haha. My girl said she didn't mind, but I didn't want to do that to her. Taxi to new hotel was $200 and she said she lives in Phuket town so I slipped her $500 to get back home.

This second time with her was much better than first, but she is still a bit shy. It's funny that she's in a bikini in the club, but in the streets she wore a light jacket. She didn't want to walk around with her top that exposed her back. She said I could BF her around midnight, but had texted around 1 Q where I was. When I got there she was with a customer and then had to dance so I stepped out and said my goodbyes to a few friends since it was my last night there. Came back a bit after 1 am and chatted with her a bit and noticed out of the corner of my eye that someone was pointing to her along with a waitress so I ended our convo and said let's go. Paid the 8 k and waited for her to get dressed while a friend was there with his fav girl.

She said to shower separately because she's shy, but she follows me in and we end up showering together. After the shower we get on the bed and start making out. I kiss her all over her body, but DATY wasn't allowed. She then moves towards me and gives me a BBBJ that she didn't do last time. Eventually I was on top of her and she didn't seem to mind so I ask no condom? She said yes condom. I don't fuck without a condom, but I wanted to see what she would say. I think if I pushed it she would let me.

She spent the next HR fucking in various pistons. We were both sweating so I picked her up and fucked her in front of the AC. We eventually make it back to the bed where I ask for a BJ which she obliged. After about 15 min I CIM and she didn't mind. She kept going and held it all in her mouth and then spit it out in the bathroom.

BF her a 2nd time was way better than the first. She was much more open and had a better GFE. She's a nice soft spoken girl and our experience together felt genuine. I have to tell you that nearly all other experience here felt so transactional. I would see her again if I ever came back again.

[QUOTE=Macau81;2293164]
The best one by far is Suzi Wong on the corner. There's more than 1. The girls in there are just gorgeous. I took a liking to one, but unfortunately I was led on. I don't think she intends to be barfined by anyone and will make an excuse why she can't be barfined when try. From my understanding they can't be barfined until after 2 am. My friend got this gorgeous Malaysian girl. I would have taken her if my friend didn't. The BF is 2 k and due to some special circumstances she waved her fee. Idk what it is but I think it's 5 k. The LD here is $240 and ofc they ask for a tip.

We got a table for 5 k and some girls showed up. I was only interested in this 1 girl but she got BF for 2 k and I'm not sure how much to her. I've heard some girls go for 5 k and others do 6 k. Supposedly some of the girls are off and will join us at Illuzion where we got a table too.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Macau81;2293919]BF the same girl for the night. Was not cheap. BF 2 k + 6 k to the girl + 1 k hotel + $200 taxi + $500 taxi.
Paid the 8 k and waited for her to get dressed while a friend was there with his fav girl.
[/QUOTE]Hey I am bit surprised by the prices you mention since you can eat a luxury dinner two people for 2-3000 THB in Phuket.

Sure there is places expensive as f. You are sure they didn't pull your chain on these charges? Susy Wong always been expensive but BF 2 k sound crazy but what can I say I haven't been active lately.

Thanks for reporting recent experience I will check some of these places when time permits!

So Rockhard was not any better or is that what you mean on corner or do you refer to the one in the end of Soi Seadragon?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2291911]Why go to Phuket? Christins Massage has plenty of pretty girls right there in Patong. Think it was 3200 or some such when we were there. Maybe 30-40 girls with lots of selection. Low pressure fishbowl format. Had good sessions 3 out of 4 girls.[/QUOTE]I have been to both and found Katherine's in Phuket City to have a better selection.

Yo friends of this forum. We are three guys heading to Phuket, Pattaya and Bangkok from 25 April.

Please guide where we can find great western fuck like Russian or Uzbek?

Happy to arrange fuck party if any one of you visits India.

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2295496]Hey I am bit surprised by the prices you mention since you can eat a luxury dinner two people for 2-3000 THB in Phuket.

Sure there is places expensive as f. You are sure they didn't pull your chain on these charges? Susy Wong always been expensive but BF 2 k sound crazy but what can I say I haven't been active lately.

Thanks for reporting recent experience I will check some of these places when time permits!

So Rockhard was not any better or is that what you mean on corner or do you refer to the one in the end of Soi Seadragon?[/QUOTE]I don't think they were messing with me with the charges. One of the guys with me has been around Phuket and didn't bat an eye about the prices.

What's rockhard? I mainly just went to the gogos. So many other places I didn't check out.

We also got a VIP table at Illuzion and dropped $XX, XXX. I was told I could prob pick up a FL for 3 k. Most in the VIP area were dressed hot, but looked old so I passed. One guy wanted me to be his Eskimo brother, but I passed.

[QUOTE=Macau81;2296236]I don't think they were messing with me with the charges. One of the guys with me has been around Phuket and didn't bat an eye about the prices.

What's rockhard? I mainly just went to the gogos. So many other places I didn't check out.

We also got a VIP table at Illuzion and dropped $XX, XXX. I was told I could prob pick up a FL for 3 k. Most in the VIP area were dressed hot, but looked old so I passed. One guy wanted me to be his Eskimo brother, but I passed.[/QUOTE]Rockhard used to be a pleasant after beach daytime a gogo when owned by a farang but now opens in the evening. It is on the corner Bangla and 200 year old road so basically before you turn to get to Jungceylon on the left one floor up. Last time I been there it was Suzy Wong brand or owner and they still keep some talents around. Promos at times so cheap beer / drink as well so not bad for what you can play with and view on stage.

If you got greens to spend for the heck of it and your enjoyment do it. For 8,5 K THB I really hope you had a great time and that you got some photos and video. In comparison a session at Katherines massage that sometimes carries top notch girls charge 2000 THB. If you like the club scene more and style of it of course it can get more pricey.

[QUOTE=PussyPanda;2296206]Yo friends of this forum. We are three guys heading to Phuket, Pattaya and Bangkok from 25 April.

Please guide where we can find great western fuck like Russian or Uzbek?

Happy to arrange fuck party if any one of you visits India.[/QUOTE]Look for the russian place on Bangla and ready your wallets and get ready for quite lousy hospitality.

Hello guys,

I am planning to visit Phuket, few guest friendly hotels suggestion with no extra charges for the guests would be highly appreciated.

Thanks, Saiyaan.

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2296955]If you got greens to spend for the heck of it and your enjoyment do it. For 8,5 K THB I really hope you had a great time and that you got some photos and video. In comparison a session at Katherines massage that sometimes carries top notch girls charge 2000 THB. If you like the club scene more and style of it of course it can get more pricey.[/QUOTE]Good, not great. Unfortunately no photos or vid. I know there's much cheaper options. I had a massage girl for 1.3 k.

[QUOTE=SaiyanYoo;2297005]Hello guys,

I am planning to visit Phuket, few guest friendly hotels suggestion with no extra charges for the guests would be highly appreciated.

Thanks, Saiyaan.[/QUOTE]Not sure if you mean Phuket city proper. If you are in Patong the RMar is outstanding. Great location, service and rooms. Girl friendly -- just make sure to reserve a double.

[QUOTE=SaiyanYoo;2297005]Hello guys,

I am planning to visit Phuket, few guest friendly hotels suggestion with no extra charges for the guests would be highly appreciated.

Thanks, Saiyaan.[/QUOTE]Can also highly recommend the Yorkshire Inn. Excellent facilities, staff and restaurant.

Very close to Bangla Road, and Jungceylon Mall.

[QUOTE=SaiyanYoo;2297005]Hello guys,

I am planning to visit Phuket, few guest friendly hotels suggestion with no extra charges for the guests would be highly appreciated.

Thanks, Saiyaan.[/QUOTE]I like the Expat Central, reasonable rates, nice rooms, close to areas of interest.

Hey guys,

First time playing in Phuket. Had some nice experiences at BJ Bars in Pattaya and Bangkok. Is there anything like that in Patong? Can't seem to find any info on it via Google or from the search function here, but I thought it had to exist. I am sure I can just wonder around until I find something, but I tend to get. Umm. Distracted when I take that route.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ready81;2300768] Had some nice experiences at BJ Bars in Pattaya and Bangkok. Is there anything like that in Patong?[/QUOTE]I don't know when this was written, but: "Walked past the only BJ bar in Patong ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] Lounge) which is in the back of the last bar in SeaDragon, but it doesn't open until 9 pm. " Google "BJ Bars Phuket" if you want to look at a very detailed Phuket trip report.

Hello guys,

Me and my brother in law who is a Australian national are planning a trip to Phuket next week but being Australian citizen he is a bit scared to travel to Thailand sue to current political situation there.

Please anyone in Phuket or Krabi tell me the current political situation? Any issues that can come up there?

Help will be really great.

[QUOTE=BackToDesi;2303266]Hello guys,

Me and my brother in law who is a Australian national are planning a trip to Phuket next week but being Australian citizen he is a bit scared to travel to Thailand sue to current political situation there.

Please anyone in Phuket or Krabi tell me the current political situation? Any issues that can come up there?

Help will be really great.[/QUOTE]One of the many nice things about Thailand is that the local political situation almost never impacts foreigners. As a foreigner, you would never know there was an election. Totally safe to travel to Thailand.

Hi,

I shall be going to Phuket in April last week and will be staying near Kamala beach. Kindly help with MP close by providing decent massage and extras.

Thanks.

Hi,

Will be travelling to Phuket Next Month Staying In Patong For some fun.

Few guest friendly Hotels & good places for pickup will be good.

Illuzion night club is a great place to pick up and so is the Bangla road. You can stay at brothers hotel which is girl friendly and is centrally located.

[QUOTE=Cred1234;2306671]Hi,

Will be travelling to Phuket Next Month Staying In Patong For some fun.

Few guest friendly Hotels & good places for pickup will be good.[/QUOTE]

Hey, Does anyone know of any Spa / MP offering extras near the Yamu / Boat Lagoon areas. Here for the night so would appreciate a quick response please. Thanks!

Ended up in Phuket for a few days. Weather is cooler with the rain. It's low season, but bangla Road is still full of people.

Started at Aussie bar upstairs so I could look at the girls next door. Forgot my glasses so I couldn't see anything. Haha. Then decided to go down soi freedom for the 1st time. That 1st bar on there corner gets all the business there. They just pull everyone in. The further I walked down that Road, the less customers I saw. At the end was a live band and I couldn't see any customers. All the workers were blocking everything.

Ended up at harem next and it was packed with people, both Asians and farang, but much more Asians. Just a few really good looking ones. 1 that I couldn't tell that was Thai at all. She looked like a thicker version Kendall Jenner.

Then headed to Nadia's and it was packed too with slightly more farang. As usual the girls of Nadia's are still raunchy. I think I got to harem around 10 and Nadia's a little after 11.

Was going to go to illusion or sugar around 1, but the girl with me didn't have her ID. Why do they only card girls? No ladyboys allowed?

The next night. Made it out to Tiffany's gogo. It's really small and didn't have many people and the girls were generally meh.

Finally made it out to illuzion. Too many people so didn't stay long. Next was Sugar, but my friend didn't like it so we just called it a night.

Wanted to check out one of the Russian go go, but reviews said to stay the fuck away so I did.

I am staying in Karon, but will of course head down to Patong a few times. I am just wondering if it is worth it to get a second hotel in Patong as well to bring ladies back to. In short, I am wondering if there are short time rooms above the beer bar that work the same way as they do on Soi6 in Pattaya. I might do it either way, but I am still curious. I haven't found any clear info about beer bars in Phuket and how they differ from Pattaya, other than in price.

[QUOTE=Ready81;2320843]I am staying in Karon, but will of course head down to Patong a few times. I am just wondering if it is worth it to get a second hotel in Patong as well to bring ladies back to. In short, I am wondering if there are short time rooms above the beer bar that work the same way as they do on Soi6 in Pattaya. I might do it either way, but I am still curious. I haven't found any clear info about beer bars in Phuket and how they differ from Pattaya, other than in price.[/QUOTE]If you want to p2 p in Patong and not bring back to Karon it might be worth looking for a cheap usable room in Patong. Not many short time rooms everywhere but they do exist. Might be worth the bath and time spent. Transport to Karon is not cheap and they do check for alcohol nowadays if you plan to be transporting yourself.

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2320986]If you want to p2 p in Patong and not bring back to Karon it might be worth looking for a cheap usable room in Patong. Not many short time rooms everywhere but they do exist. Might be worth the bath and time spent. Transport to Karon is not cheap and they do check for alcohol nowadays if you plan to be transporting yourself.[/QUOTE]I know there are short time rooms in Soi Sea Dragon just opposite Coney Bar.

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2320986]If you want to p2 p in Patong and not bring back to Karon it might be worth looking for a cheap usable room in Patong. Not many short time rooms everywhere but they do exist. Might be worth the bath and time spent. Transport to Karon is not cheap and they do check for alcohol nowadays if you plan to be transporting yourself.[/QUOTE]Thanks fellas. Think I'll be getting an extra place in Patong. Recommendations welcome. Thinking of a place with suites where I can bring back multiple ladies at once. It's time to live.

Of course, I can look it up myself, but always helps to hear advice. Thanks again.

I've seen questions asked about [URL]https://alternativephuket.com/[/URL] a few times but not much in the way of answers, so I thought I'd share some of my experiences.

The first thing people usually see is the price, so I'll address that first. The saying goes 'you can always find it cheaper in Thailand', and it's probably true that it you book accommodation separately and go looking for girls on your own you'll spend less money, but I find the whole package to be worth it.

It starts with the airport pick up. I've been on multiple trips, and they've always been late. Big surprise! The first time I was standing outside that coffee shop for ages wondering if I'd just been scammed out of thousands. It was almost worth the wait when the taxi finally pulled up and two beautiful women hopped out with a board with my name on it. They also drop you back to the airport at the end of your trip, so that's one small thing less to worry about.

They have different villas they use, but I was in the same one every time. There's some pictures of it on the website but they don't really do it justice. It was spacious and had two bedrooms. The master bedroom was huge, and the attached bathroom had a hot tub and a shower with plenty of room for three. The pool and the air con really helped on the warmer days too.

From there, your experience will differ depending on what you want to do and what girl (s) are with you. The first time around I did the inclusive tours. Phi-phi island, etc. I enjoyed them all, but if they're not your cup of tea, the owner will give you a discount on your trip if you don't want to include them. The second time around I did different things with varying degrees of enjoyment. We went ATV-riding one day, but one of the girls didn't enjoy it at all. Another evening we went to see the Thai-boxing, which both girls enjoyed but I found a bit boring by the end. What you do at night varies as well. Some girls like to cook and hang around in the villa, but others like to eat out and go clubbing. There's plenty to see / do around Phuket, so I'm hoping to do new things if I go back later this year.

The experience is different than going out and finding a new girl every night. Which can be fun. It's more like having a girlfriend for your stay. Which has it's good and bad points! On my second trip for example, I clicked with one of the girls immediately, but gorgeous as she was, she was constantly fishing for compliments and validation. She was the best sex I've had in my life though, so it more than compensated! She was a fantastic cook too, and always picked up the chips and beer I liked for me when she was at the market without me even having to ask. I probably should have brought her home!

If you don't click with a girl, you can ask to change no questions asked. I'd recommend doing this sooner rather than later, and the owner himself says that it's fine, because the girl probably isn't enjoying herself either. I wish I'd done this straight away with the second girl on that second trip because she just seemed disinterested. I wouldn't want to be too hasty though. Ae for example is a very sweet girl but comes across as very shy and reserved at first.

What else? There's a laundry place around the corner from the villa, but the girl (s) may offer to do it for you. The girl (s) cook you breakfast in the morning which is a nice thing to wake up to, but there's a cafe just a little bit down the road if you fancy a change. You can get a masseuse to come to the villa, but personally I'm not a huge fan of Thai massage. You can get dinner delivered to the villa too.

I think the last benefit is that the girl (s) are always with you. Like having a tour guide / translator with you all the time.

So, maybe not for everybody, and some might think they're expensive, but to me it's an easy one-stop place to book a holiday with everything I want.

[QUOTE=OneTimeGuest;2321896]I've seen questions asked about [URL]https://alternativephuket.com/[/URL] a few times but not much in the way of answers, so I thought I'd share some of my experiences.
[/QUOTE]I never seen questions about this.

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2323274]I never seen questions about this.[/QUOTE]Me neither. Smells a bit spammy to me.

[QUOTE=Ready81;2320843]I am staying in Karon, but will of course head down to Patong a few times. I am just wondering if it is worth it to get a second hotel in Patong as well to bring ladies back to. In short, I am wondering if there are short time rooms above the beer bar that work the same way as they do on Soi6 in Pattaya. I might do it either way, but I am still curious. I haven't found any clear info about beer bars in Phuket and how they differ from Pattaya, other than in price.[/QUOTE]I have stayed in Karon (pronounced Gurron) but only when was with the ex GF and wanting a quiet beech. My current Mrs probably preferred Patong with more entertainment and shopping. I am a bit over it myself. No need to go back. I prefer Phi Phi Island and also Krabi, and other islands. Would like to try Lanta.

The main point is to get your priorities right in deciding which place to stay. If mongering, bars, and bright lights, and shopping are going to dominate, you may as well stay in Patong. Only stay Karon to really get away from that stuff. Hopefully I am not too many years out of date. I just realise I have not been to Karon for quite a long time, I think I did go after the Tsunami to at least Patong.

I once stayed in Phuket Town many many years ago. It had good mongering possibilities, but its a difficult hill climb to get to Patong from there by Song Thaew which I did a few times.

Maybe you have a very special reason to stay in Karon. Sorry for the tangent to the question.

Kata has even stranger pronunciation. Sounds like "Gutta" with both syllables cut very short.
Patong is also difficult. Sound like bar-dorng or bpar-dtorng (both syllables long). Finally Phuket is like Pooh-get. That is the easy one. Ha ha. It is very far from "fuck it". I suppose taxi drivers have to get used to all Farang stupid pronunciations that are not close.

But if one says something like Carter for Kata, it might not work. Cutter would be closer, but should sound like Gutta.

[QUOTE=Cred1234;2306671]Hi,

Will be travelling to Phuket Next Month Staying In Patong For some fun.

Few guest friendly Hotels & good places for pickup will be good.[/QUOTE]Some friendly advice given you're evidently new to the site. Use the search function on this thread and you'll find a report with some reviews of Kamala MPs I posted in November.

[QUOTE=Penguin69;2323286]Me neither. Smells a bit spammy to me.[/QUOTE]It's not my site so I'm not too bothered if you believe me or not. A google search turns up one or two questions. Personally I often use this forum when I'm going somewhere new or researching offers, so I hope it'll be useful to some people.

[QUOTE=OneTimeGuest;2323622]It's not my site so I'm not too bothered if you believe me or not. A google search turns up one or two questions. Personally I often use this forum when I'm going somewhere new or researching offers, so I hope it'll be useful to some people.[/QUOTE]Did not read like an infomercial to me. Your post is not likely to interest experienced mongers, but newbies lacking confidence, maybe would like to have everything set up.

The critical questions would be (in my view): Cost per day, and how did you choose the girls (if you chose them)? I don't think you covered those critical aspects.

I like a higher class setup and girl so this interested me but costs on the site were very high. Plus the gallery is password protected, which I found strange. Probably a way of getting my email before I get access to the site so they have my data for their mailing list. Would be an interesting "treat" but I'll stick to my 2-3 regular beauties. Only time I'd consider is if I had a windfall and fancied a top end 3 way, but the girls would have to be 10's.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2323954]Did not read like an infomercial to me. Your post is not likely to interest experienced mongers, but newbies lacking confidence, maybe would like to have everything set up.

The critical questions would be (in my view): Cost per day, and how did you choose the girls (if you chose them)? I don't think you covered those critical aspects.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DavidRim;2323996]I like a higher class setup and girl so this interested me but costs on the site were very high. [/QUOTE]Is it really higher class? How to determine that? Sounds like a great way to make money.

In Germany they offer Sex Tours of the FKK clubs, at some premium cost, for those who can't be bothered to try the clubs themselves.

Personally, I don't like guided tours, unless they are just for me only. They usually think I will want something very different to what I really want. If the guide is assigned for just one customer, it has a chance to work, if the compatibility is there.

Higher class as in the quality of girl, and until you meet them hard to determine. I mean, I can't even view on the site so as I said, bit of a non starter.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2324002]Is it really higher class? How to determine that? Sounds like a great way to make money.

In Germany they offer Sex Tours of the FKK clubs, at some premium cost, for those who can't be bothered to try the clubs themselves.

Personally, I don't like guided tours, unless they are just for me only. They usually think I will want something very different to what I really want. If the guide is assigned for just one customer, it has a chance to work, if the compatibility is there.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys, landed in Phuket 2 days back and I love going to gogos for my primary way of having fun, but some of these places have much more expensive bar fine than BKK or Pattaya, could you guys tell me the gogos with a nominal 1 k bar fine here in Phuket?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2323954]Did not read like an infomercial to me. Your post is not likely to interest experienced mongers, but newbies lacking confidence, maybe would like to have everything set up.

The critical questions would be (in my view): Cost per day, and how did you choose the girls (if you chose them)? I don't think you covered those critical aspects.[/QUOTE]Cost per day is variable. If you book a longer trip, the cost per day goes down. Basic prices are on the website and include villa rental, etc. How much you actually spend depends on how many girls you have and what you do each day. If you laze around the pool all day while one of the girls goes to the farmers market for ingredients and cooks you dinner, you'll spend a lot less than if you take two girls to a nice restaurant and end up in the VIP section of a club buying bottle service. Again, people have been commenting it's expensive, and no doubt you can do things cheaper, but IMO the whole package and the hassle free nature of it is worth it.

Choosing girls can be a bit tricky. If you have the password (I don't) you can see a photo gallery of each of the girls and a short bio. Sometimes the reviews section will tell you a bit more about the girls too. The bad thing is the girl you want may not always be available. In the past I've given a shortlist when I've booked my trip, which could be 6-8 months in advance, and the girls were whoever was available off that list. If I get to go back later this year I may ask the owner if it's possible to get a list of who's available a couple of weeks beforehand and choose from that.

[QUOTE=OneTimeGuest;2325535]Cost per day is variable. Again, people have been commenting it's expensive, and no doubt you can do things cheaper, but IMO the whole package and the hassle free nature of it is worth it.

Choosing girls can be a bit tricky. If you have the password (I don't) you can see a photo gallery of each of the girls and a short bio. .[/QUOTE]You still avoid the basic cost question of how much you pay for a girl per day. Naturally I don't count restaurants etc. And whatever you do. I assume cost is high but cheaper than normal escorts by a large margin.

For me, I cannot choose a girl from a photoshopped photo and would need to meet them, so obviously this is totally out for me. However, maybe others are easier than me.

Going hunting for girls is not seen as a big hassle for many guys. There is the thing about finding some chemistry.

Also if a girl is a failure, we normally can just go get another one immediately within a few minutes.

Personally I have spent multiple days on a holiday with a girl, but that is only if I know her very well, and we get on famously. I would always make a short duration try out first and build up to a multi day.

Its harder to envisage what girls can make so much time available in the modern day, unless being paid exceedingly well.

[QUOTE=BangkokBlues;2325021]Hey guys, landed in Phuket 2 days back and I love going to gogos for my primary way of having fun, but some of these places have much more expensive bar fine than BKK or Pattaya, could you guys tell me the gogos with a nominal 1 k bar fine here in Phuket?[/QUOTE]I've only asked at gogos worth asking and they're all 2 k. Even the bar at the end of bangla Road (the road where traffic can go both ways) said it was 2 k BF.

Just out of interest to see what the pricing would be and the girls are like, I emailed this lot a week ago. Still no response. Ironic that they claim to provide VIP service yet can't respond to an email. Business must be good!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2325949]You still avoid the basic cost question of how much you pay for a girl per day. Naturally I don't count restaurants etc. And whatever you do. I assume cost is high but cheaper than normal escorts by a large margin.

For me, I cannot choose a girl from a photoshopped photo and would need to meet them, so obviously this is totally out for me. However, maybe others are easier than me.

Going hunting for girls is not seen as a big hassle for many guys. There is the thing about finding some chemistry.

Also if a girl is a failure, we normally can just go get another one immediately within a few minutes.

Personally I have spent multiple days on a holiday with a girl, but that is only if I know her very well, and we get on famously. I would always make a short duration try out first and build up to a multi day.

Its harder to envisage what girls can make so much time available in the modern day, unless being paid exceedingly well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2325949]You still avoid the basic cost question of how much you pay for a girl per day. Naturally I don't count restaurants etc. And whatever you do. I assume cost is high but cheaper than normal escorts by a large margin.[/QUOTE]The short answer is I don't know!

A 7 day holiday with 2 girls is 175,000. With one girl it's 125,000. So 7,142.86 Baht per day? You typically stay in a bigger villa if you have two girls than if you have one, so I don't think 100% of the cost is for the girl.

Using the Euro prices it works out at €183.57 per day. Google says the average monthly wage in Thailand is under €200, so it's probably not a bad deal for the girls.

[QUOTE=OneTimeGuest;2328649]The short answer is I don't know!

A 7 day holiday with 2 girls is 175,000. With one girl it's 125,000. So 7,142.86 Baht per day? You typically stay in a bigger villa if you have two girls than if you have one, so I don't think 100% of the cost is for the girl.

Using the Euro prices it works out at 183.57 per day. Google says the average monthly wage in Thailand is under 200, so it's probably not a bad deal for the girls.[/QUOTE]I can't speak for all of Thailand but a normal wage is more then 300 euros in Phuket. I don't know what you base your search on but the minimum wage is 9000 THB but is 6 day working week. The people I know earn more than 20 K but some all the way to great money. Anyways 125 K THB is a lot! 5 K per day is a great budget with hotel, drinks and girls. Just my five cents.

Out of curiosity has anyone ventured more around the area Katherines is located? Looking for good massage and special menu.

5 K really? I think Phuket is the most expensive out of all Thailand and generally a night out over there should pull you back around 8 to 10 K (including drinks, bar fine and lady). Plus you include shopping and other activities, minimum you need per day is around 15 K.

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2330026]I can't speak for all of Thailand but a normal wage is more then 300 euros in Phuket. I don't know what you base your search on but the minimum wage is 9000 THB but is 6 day working week. The people I know earn more than 20 K but some all the way to great money. Anyways 125 K THB is a lot! 5 K per day is a great budget with hotel, drinks and girls. Just my five cents.

Out of curiosity has anyone ventured more around the area Katherines is located? Looking for good massage and special menu.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JSaint;2330231]5 K really? I think Phuket is the most expensive out of all Thailand and generally a night out over there should pull you back around 8 to 10 K (including drinks, bar fine and lady). Plus you include shopping and other activities, minimum you need per day is around 15 K.[/QUOTE]I do Phuket comfortably on 5000 excluding hotel. 2000 on a girl, massage or wechat, thaicupid etc. 1000 on food and 2000 doing stuff.

[QUOTE=JSaint;2330231]5 K really? I think Phuket is the most expensive out of all Thailand and generally a night out over there should pull you back around 8 to 10 K (including drinks, bar fine and lady). Plus you include shopping and other activities, minimum you need per day is around 15 K.[/QUOTE]JSaint could you please break down that cost? I honestly have trouble understanding how you derived it and I have been a heavy drinker. I also frequented table service all over SEA and still can't compute. I know there is lobster restaurant ala 6 K per dish and hotels charing excessive amounts.

This is my break down.

600-1 k room.

1 k food and normal activities and some beer.

2-3 k drink, barfine if not FL and ST / LT.

15 K per day? 425 euros is a lot it would be 4 million THB per year in salary with no savings. I would bring some cutie to Maldives all inc for that money. Anyways if you have and want to spend this type of cash I think you will have a great time. Hope you have a blast in Phuket!

Hey MakeorBreak. My intentions were not to belittle you and I am sure people could even manage with less than 5 k.

When I go party in Phuket my breakdown is as follows.

1. 5 k. Room.

2 k. Food (food is expensive).

4 to 5 k. Bottle service.

5 to 7 k. Lady.

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2330584]JSaint could you please break down that cost? I honestly have trouble understanding how you derived it and I have been a heavy drinker. I also frequented table service all over SEA and still can't compute. I know there is lobster restaurant ala 6 K per dish and hotels charing excessive amounts.

This is my break down.

600-1 k room.

1 k food and normal activities and some beer.

2-3 k drink, barfine if not FL and ST / LT.

15 K per day? 425 euros is a lot it would be 4 million THB per year in salary with no savings. I would bring some cutie to Maldives all inc for that money. Anyways if you have and want to spend this type of cash I think you will have a great time. Hope you have a blast in Phuket![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OneTimeGuest;2321896]I've seen questions asked about [URL]https://alternativephuket.com/[/URL] a few times but not much in the way of answers, so I thought I'd share some of my experiences.

The first thing people usually see is the price, so I'll address that first. The saying goes 'you can always find it cheaper in Thailand', and it's probably true that it you book accommodation separately and go looking for girls on your own you'll spend less money, but I find the whole package to be worth it.

It starts with the airport pick up. I've been on multiple trips, and they've always been late. Big surprise! The first time I was standing outside that coffee shop for ages wondering if I'd just been scammed out of thousands. It was almost worth the wait when the taxi finally pulled up and two beautiful women hopped out with a board with my name on it. They also drop you back to the airport at the end of your trip, so that's one small thing less to worry about.

They have different villas they use, but I was in the same one every time. There's some pictures of it on the website but they don't really do it justice. It was spacious and had two bedrooms. The master bedroom was huge, and the attached bathroom had a hot tub and a shower with plenty of room for three. The pool and the air con really helped on the warmer days too.

From there, your experience will differ depending on what you want to do and what girl (s) are with you. The first time around I did the inclusive tours. Phi-phi island, etc. I enjoyed them all, but if they're not your cup of tea, the owner will give you a discount on your trip if you don't want to include them. The second time around I did different things with varying degrees of enjoyment. We went ATV-riding one day, but one of the girls didn't enjoy it at all. Another evening we went to see the Thai-boxing, which both girls enjoyed but I found a bit boring by the end. What you do at night varies as well. Some girls like to cook and hang around in the villa, but others like to eat out and go clubbing. There's plenty to see / do around Phuket, so I'm hoping to do new things if I go back later this year..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. I'm like you. I don't mind paying a premium for quality and convenience.

Be heading to Patong and Kamala beach. Just wondering how the SW rates (I understand the SWs can be found on or around the beach roads?) compare with Sukhumvit and the Sois. Some folks mention Phuket prices being higher than BKK for some things, BFs for instance. Wondered if this also hold true for freelance SWs.

[QUOTE=DumpTrump;2331425]Thanks for the review. I'm like you. I don't mind paying a premium for quality and convenience.[/QUOTE]That indicates that you must stay at the Trump hotels. Best quality possible, but not cheap. You sir, are a man of good taste then.

Hi all,

Has anyone experienced a service from [URL]https://phuketescortsgirls.com/[/URL].

I am looking for LT options without the need to visit Go Gos and this website looked reliable.

Regards,

Aabhas.

[QUOTE=Abhi9;2332401]Hi all,

Has anyone experienced a service from [URL]https://phuketescortsgirls.com/[/URL].

I am looking for LT options without the need to visit Go Gos and this website looked reliable.

Regards,

Aabhas.[/QUOTE]I don't think Phuket is the LT destination it used to be. 8 years ago a FL would be happy with 1000 THB if she liked you. Only escort place I frequented and constantly read good about is Katherines. Pricerier but that would be my bet unless you go to the clubs and look for FL.

[QUOTE=JSaint;2331096]Hey MakeorBreak. My intentions were not to belittle you and I am sure people could even manage with less than 5 k.

When I go party in Phuket my breakdown is as follows.

1. 5 k. Room.

2 k. Food (food is expensive).

4 to 5 k. Bottle service.

5 to 7 k. Lady.[/QUOTE]Don't worry you don't belittle me but this spending is a bit off the top. Seriously what do you eat in Thailand? 4 K is when I bring my GF and her friend with husband to the highest rated restaurant and pay the bill. 60 THB I pay for a normal dish but in areas like Patong that can climb to 200 THB.

Fun fact if you go inland 5000 THB will buy you 62 large Chang. I might be out of touch little but normally a bottle in a bar would hurt you 2000 and with inflation I would reckon up to 3000? What is it you prefer to drink?

Do you have photos of these 5-7 K ladies? I would love to see and understand. 5 K is not even the going rate where I stay which is the GDP (PPP) in SEA.

To the rest reading this forum I don't think you need to spend 19 K per day to have a good time or have a high quality experience. If you have the money do as you please but it is not my impression that the PP makes it worthwhile and I would recommend you to budget this elsewhere.

My last five cents is enjoy Phuket it is still a great place despite all it has become!

7th trip to Thailand, 2nd trip to Phuket, worst experience from my trip.

Location: Christin Massage.

Girl: Kay.

Age: 27.

Looks: 7.5/10.

Service: 2/10.

Attitude: 0/10.

Rush: YES.

I've tried the soapies in BKK and Pattaya, and was in the mood for an afternoon session.

Lineup was nothing amazing but the girls looked good enough for a soapy massage parlor. I picked a girl that looked enthusiastic, it all went downhill from there.

Issues:

* Soapy lasted only 10 minutes.

* Service was rushed with her immediately complaining that I need to finish fast.

* Complaining continued, during sex asking "why I didn't finish from HJ?

* The girl kicked me out of the room only 25 minutes in to the 70 minute service. Literally said "you finish, you leave".

* Attitude was so poor that I was happy to leave.

I walked never to return. I read the poor reviews, but I'm starting to think they were being generous. I'll stick to the beer bars from now on. Night time was good and fun, didn't ruin my trip, but it was a waste of 3,300!

[QUOTE=Jackmehoff69;2334055]
* Soapy lasted only 10 minutes.

* Service was rushed with her immediately complaining that I need to finish fast.

* Complaining continued, during sex asking "why I didn't finish from HJ?

* The girl kicked me out of the room only 25 minutes in to the 70 minute service. Literally said "you finish, you leave".

* Attitude was so poor that I was happy to leave.

I walked never to return. I read the poor reviews, but I'm starting to think they were being generous. I'll stick to the beer bars from now on. Night time was good and fun, didn't ruin my trip, but it was a waste of 3,300![/QUOTE]Ha ha. I would probably normally complain about the bath wasting too much time, unless she was being really naughty.

You are writing about a particular girl. Does not mean all girls there are equally bad. I have never used the Kristin place myself, because I always had a GF with me, except my very first Patong trip. However service varies a lot in soapies. Its largely about getting lucky. 20 to 30 years ago I seemed to be mostly lucky in Soapies (Bangkok) but in modern day, mostly unlucky. Still great girls exist, its just you can't tell in advance. I hate the surprise when girl gets undressed and her body turns out to be not good, or she was fucking gorgeous but does not kiss, no DATY, a bad useless BJ, and stiff legs (dick scared). It is not easy to win on all counts. I have had maybe only 10% repeatable girls only in recent years in Soapies. Long ago I had quite a few regulars in Soapies but not any more.

Overall, for sure the attitudes of soapy girls have declined badly over the years, or is it a reaction to me being older. Maybe a little of both.

Beer bars may well be a venue where you will get good attitude girls more frequently. However I don't use them any more myself. I mostly don't have the time, and they are too exposed to be being seen by people going past. Added to that I like to see the girls bodies a bit more before choosing.

Anyone know if the ATM bar in Chalong is still open, haven't been to Phuket for 4 years and from what I can remember that was one of the best bars in Chalong.

[QUOTE=Jackmehoff69;2334055]7th trip to Thailand, 2nd trip to Phuket, worst experience from my trip.

Location: Christin Massage.

Girl: Kay.

Age: 27.

Looks: 7.5/10.

Service: 2/10.

Attitude: 0/10.[/QUOTE]I have been to Christina a couple of times. Never experienced anything like that. If a girl rushes sessions I would believe IT would be picked up by the establishment. But IT could be end of her shift?

My Biggest surprise was that you found a 7. 5 girl. I have seldom seen anything above 6. (Not seen a thin, young one for years..

Can someone recommend some hotels near bangla road that are very girl friendly? Most girl friendly hotels are fine as long as you a solo traveler. I'm with the wife and we would like to bring a girl each back.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Odin1;2335606]I have been to Christina a couple of times. Never experienced anything like that. If a girl rushes sessions I would believe IT would be picked up by the establishment. But IT could be end of her shift?

My Biggest surprise was that you found a 7. 5 girl. I have seldom seen anything above 6. (Not seen a thin, young one for years..[/QUOTE]I only browsed 1-3 times myself and never found anything to my liking so headed out. So I agree on the scale you reflect! My friends has tried and mixed reviews as an outcome.

[QUOTE=OnTheScene;2334775]Anyone know if the ATM bar in Chalong is still open, haven't been to Phuket for 4 years and from what I can remember that was one of the best bars in Chalong.[/QUOTE]Google tells me they have a Facebook page which you could contact and see what is going on. Looking at how they post it most likely is open.

[QUOTE=Justice4;2335831]Can someone recommend some hotels near bangla road that are very girl friendly? Most girl friendly hotels are fine as long as you a solo traveler. I'm with the wife and we would like to bring a girl each back.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]The R-Mar is awesome. Walkable to Bangla Rd but far enough away to avoid the noise and crowds. Really tucked in. You would never know it's there. Reasonably priced too.

Definitely girl friendly. They give you a card at check in that says "If you bring a girl back for the night, she is not entitled to the free breakfast" (LOL.

If you are bringing back two girls to your double room tho there could be a charge. They are very friendly so you could check ahead if you like.

IMHO, the issue is the number of guests in the room. Just book a room for 4 adults.

[QUOTE=Justice4;2335831]Can someone recommend some hotels near bangla road that are very girl friendly? Most girl friendly hotels are fine as long as you a solo traveler. I'm with the wife and we would like to bring a girl each back.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2336043]Google tells me they have a Facebook page which you could contact and see what is going on. Looking at how they post it most likely is open.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, I am not on Facebook, what's there facebook page like, has it got much info on there.

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2332943]I don't think Phuket is the LT destination it used to be. 8 years ago a FL would be happy with 1000 THB if she liked you. Only escort place I frequented and constantly read good about is Katherines. Pricerier but that would be my bet unless you go to the clubs and look for FL.[/QUOTE]So the escort scene is not reliable in Phuket?

Thinking of going but can only do so during what's supposed to be the rainy season, if get rained then not going street hunting prefer to call in a delivery from an escort service. However, if they unreliable then will not waste time.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2337257]So the escort scene is not reliable in Phuket?

Thinking of going but can only do so during what's supposed to be the rainy season, if get rained then not going street hunting prefer to call in a delivery from an escort service. However, if they unreliable then will not waste time.[/QUOTE]There is not really an escort scene as such. If you go to Patong there are about 1000 massage shops of which 750 will provide you with service, Bangla road has freelancers, bars have freelancers, Wechat, dating apps, then there are the obvious girlie bars. If you cannot find someone you would be nominated for the worlds worst monger title. What the guy was referring too is price as the girls in Phuket are usually a bit pricier than Pattaya but for my mind Patong has much more variety of things to do if you aren't just going to a bar or chasing women.

Book a room in central Patong so if you go out and it rains you don't need to go far to return. Get girl, take her to your room.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2337257]So the escort scene is not reliable in Phuket?

Thinking of going but can only do so during what's supposed to be the rainy season, if get rained then not going street hunting prefer to call in a delivery from an escort service. However, if they unreliable then will not waste time.[/QUOTE]The good season for Phuket is December to February. After that can get a bit too hot. I see little point to go in the rainy season. Go when it is at its best. There is plenty of mongering but not good enough to drag me there by itself. A bit overly touristy in Patong Beech, so other options are possible. In fact I got bored with Phuket years ago but good to do it at least once. Better than Samui in my opinion.

Samui good season is different to Phuket as on gulf of Thailand side with different weather. The beauty of beeches on Samui is not there in December as mirky water is still flowing down the streams and fouling the ocean. Don't go to Samui till at least late January in my opinion, and Feb to March should be good.

Unfortunately tourist web sites don't tell you when is the best season and when the weather is really bad, in my experience. For some islands, it is really critical to know the beautiful and calm seas time of year. Koh Samet can have all the beeches fouled by floating blossoms or similar debris from trees at the wrong time of year. Still okay To snorkel further out from a boat. Consult with experts on the right time to go there.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2337466]There is not really an escort scene as such. If you go to Patong there are about 1000 massage shops of which 750 will provide you with service, Bangla road has freelancers, bars have freelancers, Wechat, dating apps, then there are the obvious girlie bars. If you cannot find someone you would be nominated for the worlds worst monger title. What the guy was referring too is price as the girls in Phuket are usually a bit pricier than Pattaya but for my mind Patong has much more variety of things to do if you aren't just going to a bar or chasing women.

Book a room in central Patong so if you go out and it rains you don't need to go far to return. Get girl, take her to your room.[/QUOTE]OK then, come rain or shine I am going to hit Patong road, don't want the title of worlds worst monger!

Is Phuket weather still good from August to October?

[QUOTE=OneTimeGuest;2328649]The short answer is I don't know!

A 7 day holiday with 2 girls is 175,000. With one girl it's 125,000. So 7,142.86 Baht per day? You typically stay in a bigger villa if you have two girls than if you have one, so I don't think 100% of the cost is for the girl.

Using the Euro prices it works out at 183.57 per day. Google says the average monthly wage in Thailand is under 200, so it's probably not a bad deal for the girls.[/QUOTE]You say a 7 day holiday with 1 girl is 125,000 THB. This is not 183 Euro per night, not even close.

That works out at 3,580 Euro or 511 Euro (578 USD) per night.

Not a great deal I would say, even if you don't mind paying for some "luxury". The villa must be bloody fantastic.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2337701]OK then, come rain or shine I am going to hit Patong road, don't want the title of worlds worst monger!

Is Phuket weather still good from August to October?[/QUOTE]The only month to miss in Phuket is September. Even for rainy season standards it is wet that month. The rest of the time you should be ok.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2337518]The good season for Phuket is December to February. After that can get a bit too hot. I see little point to go in the rainy season. Go when it is at its best. There is plenty of mongering but not good enough to drag me there by itself. A bit overly touristy in Patong Beech, so other options are possible. In fact I got bored with Phuket years ago but good to do it at least once. Better than Samui in my opinion.

Samui good season is different to Phuket as on gulf of Thailand side with different weather. The beauty of beeches on Samui is not there in December as mirky water is still flowing down the streams and fouling the ocean. Don't go to Samui till at least late January in my opinion, and Feb to March should be good.

Unfortunately tourist web sites don't tell you when is the best season and when the weather is really bad, in my experience. For some islands, it is really critical to know the beautiful and calm seas time of year. Koh Samet can have all the beeches fouled by floating blossoms or similar debris from trees at the wrong time of year. Still okay To snorkel further out from a boat. Consult with experts on the right time to go there.[/QUOTE]A few tips on Phuket. The slow season or rainy season April-August has very few tourists, getting out of Patong is the smart thing to do if price is important. The many small towns From Sarin Beach to Kata Karon are loaded with bars and girls, and empty of customers.

Kamala Beach is one, many bars with ladies from Isan that are sitting bored of playing pool and talking to the same expats that also stay during the slow months. The pickings are easy and the price is a good offer, 1000 is ok. Bar fines are 500 before 10:00 pm and 300 after. All takers are overnight unless you want them to leave.

These ladies live in a sponsored room paid by the Bar. 10 ladies is normal to a room or small house.

I live in Laguna and Kamala is a 15 minute drive. Very few LB's. A couple of bars but that's all.

In the high season after August the Euros start to arrive and competition heats up. Also the price doubles. The girls hold out for 2500, but will accept 2000.

So as exciting as Bangla Road seems at first, you realize it's a joke. Hustlers everywhere selling sex shows, LB shows, Ping Pong shows and of course the FL's in the street. If you look on Thai friendly Phuket, their all looking for customers. Patong rates are very high. And the music is deafening.

RL.

[QUOTE=OneTimeGuest;2328649]Google says the average monthly wage in Thailand is under 200, so it's probably not a bad deal for the girls.[/QUOTE]That is a stupid fact (if true) and possibly includes villagers who have no salary and hunt and fish for food or tend the rice farm, or sell stuff at a market, or includes waitresses. As others pointed out all the arithmetic was shot as well.

If a bargirl makes 125 K Baht per month, she is doing very well. A small percentage make that. If she makes it in a week, she is getting rich fast. Naturally someone else is getting rich on the money too.

Find yourself a fab bargirl or MP girl and take her away for a week of fun (try a weekend first to be sure). Will cost far less. Find out how much a good girl really needs to make to feel relaxed and enjoy herself.

I know Karon is a more family friendly area- but I'm wondering if it's a crazy idea to walk into one of those little pharmacies and pick up Viagra or one of its imitations? I know anything goes in Patong, but I didn't know about Karon. Any ideas? Place looks more " legit" than other parts of Phuket, so I wasn't sure.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;2338000]A few tips on Phuket. The slow season or rainy season April-August has very few tourists, getting out of Patong is the smart thing to do if price is important. The many small towns From Sarin Beach to Kata Karon are loaded with bars and girls, and empty of customers.

Kamala Beach is one, many bars with ladies from Isan that are sitting bored of playing pool and talking to the same expats that also stay during the slow months. The pickings are easy and the price is a good offer, 1000 is ok. Bar fines are 500 before 10:00 pm and 300 after. All takers are overnight unless you want them to leave.

These ladies live in a sponsored room paid by the Bar. 10 ladies is normal to a room or small house.

I live in Laguna and Kamala is a 15 minute drive. Very few LB's. A couple of bars but that's all.

In the high season after August the Euros start to arrive and competition heats up. Also the price doubles. The girls hold out for 2500, but will accept 2000..[/QUOTE]I been told getting out beyond Patong is expensive due to so called "taxi mafia", that taxis just rip you off if trying to roam around island?

That its better to hire own scooter, but not good idea in rain season.

Apparently Grab also doesn't work in Phuket like other cities and you constantly needing to haggle for a proper taxi rate?

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2338235]I been told getting out beyond Patong is expensive due to so called "taxi mafia", that taxis just rip you off if trying to roam around island?

That its better to hire own scooter, but not good idea in rain season.

Apparently Grab also doesn't work in Phuket like other cities and you constantly needing to haggle for a proper taxi rate?[/QUOTE]Essentially it is about cost vs convenience. Yes taxis are expensive. If you are paying 2- 300 baht for a 10 min taxi ride one way every time you want to go somewhere it makes selecting your location more important. I like Patong because it is big and has variety, you can select a wide range of accommodations, the beach is close, Jung Ceylon provides dining, shopping, entertainments, plenty of bars and plenty of tourist agents if you want to do some excursions. Its depends what you want to do when you are not chasing skirt.

Not a fan of mopeds personally. Seen a few accidents in rainy season and it's not ideal if it chucks it down anyway, for obvious reasons. Taxis are expensive. I don't like Patong personally but I go there once every couple of weeks or so for some fun if my regular isn't around. I stay in Bangtao and always hire a car. It is expensive compared to a moped but still much cheaper than taxis if you need transport every day, which I do. Plus you don't get rained on.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2338235]I been told getting out beyond Patong is expensive due to so called "taxi mafia", that taxis just rip you off if trying to roam around island?

That its better to hire own scooter, but not good idea in rain season.

Apparently Grab also doesn't work in Phuket like other cities and you constantly needing to haggle for a proper taxi rate?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2338235]I been told getting out beyond Patong is expensive due to so called "taxi mafia", that taxis just rip you off if trying to roam around island?

That its better to hire own scooter, but not good idea in rain season.

Apparently Grab also doesn't work in Phuket like other cities and you constantly needing to haggle for a proper taxi rate?[/QUOTE]Its very dangerous hiring scooters / motor bikes in Phuket. I did it but I have ridden bikes for years. You need eyes in the back of your head. If you read the Thai expat forums, its just filled with info about motor bike crashes and expats getting wiped out. Also you will come across a lot of road blocks, asking to see your licence and fines for no helmet. If I was going to Phuket for short holiday and wanted to get about I would hire a car.

[QUOTE=OnTheScene;2337190]Thanks for the info, I am not on Facebook, what's there facebook page like, has it got much info on there.[/QUOTE]Here you go an update in May.

[QUOTE=Ready81;2338118]I know Karon is a more family friendly area- but I'm wondering if it's a crazy idea to walk into one of those little pharmacies and pick up Viagra or one of its imitations? I know anything goes in Patong, but I didn't know about Karon. Any ideas? Place looks more " legit" than other parts of Phuket, so I wasn't sure.[/QUOTE]Local pharmacies all have generic Viagra, just go in and ask. Don't go to 7/11, Boots or Watson pharmacies, they don't have it. The generic is cheap, 4 pills for 350 thb.

RL.

[QUOTE=Ready81;2338118]I know Karon is a more family friendly area- but I'm wondering if it's a crazy idea to walk into one of those little pharmacies and pick up Viagra or one of its imitations? I know anything goes in Patong, but I didn't know about Karon. Any ideas? Place looks more " legit" than other parts of Phuket, so I wasn't sure.[/QUOTE]The Pharmacies between Karon and Kata on the hill sell it. I use Kamagra jelly. 2000 b for 50 or 100 b each if sold individually. Works great for me. Enjoy!

Hi fellow mongers,

From another land.

I will be in Phuket the last 2 weeks of August, this will be my second time to Patong, but first time mongering.

I have already read extensively through this and other blogs, I have already have 3 freelancer lines as a backups, but am looking to hit the go go bars / beer bars looking for "talent".

I've read all about general prices and plan to splurge a little as I have no problem paying a good price for good talent (the 3 FL have all quoted me 3500 for LT which is considered cheap by me, as I'm used to paying about the same price for 1 pop in the country I'm in now).

So that leaves the last question.

This would be my first experience letting a girl into my hotel room, other than the general safety tip to keep valuables safe, any other words of caution.

TIA.

[QUOTE=CuscoCivic2011;2341855]Hi fellow mongers,

From another land.

I will be in Phuket the last 2 weeks of August, this will be my second time to Patong, but first time mongering.

I have already read extensively through this and other blogs, I have already have 3 freelancer lines as a backups, but am looking to hit the go go bars / beer bars looking for "talent".

I've read all about general prices and plan to splurge a little as I have no problem paying a good price for good talent (the 3 FL have all quoted me 3500 for LT which is considered cheap by me, as I'm used to paying about the same price for 1 pop in the country I'm in now).

So that leaves the last question.

This would be my first experience letting a girl into my hotel room, other than the general safety tip to keep valuables safe, any other words of caution.

TIA.[/QUOTE]Buy enough condoms and lube. Keep enough water and snacks. A proper hotel will help you vet the girl (Turn away the LB) and actually check in on you from time to time.

Since it is quite deep into low season don't feel pressure in booking all your stay. Or have a open booking with early cancel option. Get the layout and move around if that suits your experience better. Patong always possible to find good value for 1000 THB per night!

Have fun!

Great advice. I just came back from my stay in June and I feel the best time to visit Phuket / Patong is during the low season (although I am heading back again in December) . Hotel prices are cheap plus the option to find good talent at gogo bars and beer bars is a plenty. Recommend you pick a hotel close to Bangla since its easier to bring the girl to your hotel; also the taxis charge a ridiculous amount. Look at Summer Breeze Hotel. It has been my go to hotel when I visit Phuket.

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2341949]Buy enough condoms and lube. Keep enough water and snacks. A proper hotel will help you vet the girl (Turn away the LB) and actually check in on you from time to time.

Since it is quite deep into low season don't feel pressure in booking all your stay. Or have a open booking with early cancel option. Get the layout and move around if that suits your experience better. Patong always possible to find good value for 1000 THB per night!

Have fun![/QUOTE]

Visiting Phuket for official purposes. Need to explore spas which have young and slim Thai girls (hoottiess). Please help. PM active.

What are the normal rates. What all services I can expect from therapists. Looking for full service spas. Kindly enlighten me.

[QUOTE=HotShow;2343238]Visiting Phuket for official purposes. Need to explore spas which have young and slim Thai girls (hoottiess). Please help. PM active.

What are the normal rates. What all services I can expect from therapists. Looking for full service spas. Kindly enlighten me.[/QUOTE]All the things you are asking have recently been discussed. Please read up few months / years.

Hey everyone,

We are all set to go to Phuket for a friend's bachelor party.

I have read the usual articles on what to expect and do. Have been to Bangkok previously but this one is with a larger group. Could some of the seniors advice how do we make the most of this trip. Should we get escorts via online sites to the villa or which are the clubs you would suggest.

Expecting sincere advice.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=MongerInCloset;2346011]Hey everyone,

We are all set to go to Phuket for a friend's bachelor party.

I have read the usual articles on what to expect and do. Have been to Bangkok previously but this one is with a larger group. Could some of the seniors advice how do we make the most of this trip. Should we get escorts via online sites to the villa or which are the clubs you would suggest.

Expecting sincere advice.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Yes! By all means! You could read this forum!

[QUOTE=HotShow;2343238]Visiting Phuket for official purposes. Need to explore spas which have young and slim Thai girls (hoottiess). Please help. PM active.

What are the normal rates. What all services I can expect from therapists. Looking for full service spas. Kindly enlighten me.[/QUOTE]Honey 2,4000 bhats for 18-22 grils, 22-25 3500 bhat.

Coming this weekend for 3 days.

Can someone share good hotel that are ggh.

[QUOTE=AbhiSingh;2347195]Coming this weekend for 3 days.

Can someone share good hotel that are ggh.[/QUOTE]You want to share a hotel room with somebody? Good grief, how about a berr in a go go as well?

I'm in Phuket for a few weeks. If anyone want to get together let me know. I'm a young looking late 30's Asian American.

[QUOTE=LaosMan;2347687]You want to share a hotel room with somebody? Good grief, how about a berr in a go go as well?[/QUOTE]I think you missed the point. He's asking to share information on a hotel that is GF. Not that he wants to share a hotel room. Although if he is Indian he might. 555.

Coming this weekend for 3 days.

Can someone share good hotel that are GF and have no charge for girl.

P.

[QUOTE=LaosMan;2347687]You want to share a hotel room with somebody? Good grief, how about a berr in a go go as well?[/QUOTE]No buddy.

Thanks but no thanks.

[QUOTE=AbhiSingh;2347195]Coming this weekend for 3 days.

Can someone share good hotel that are ggh.[/QUOTE]What does ggh mean?

Hi all,

What's the going rates in Phuket now for short and long time, for bar girls, gogo girls, and free lancers?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=BlackCar;2349608]Hi all,

What's the going rates in Phuket now for short and long time, for bar girls, gogo girls, and free lancers?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is a common answer to your question in this forum. Go back and read all you can. RTFF.

Depends on the perceived rating (looks) of the girl and what she's been able to charge in the past, how much she wants to go with you, time of night, etc etc etc. LT can range from 2000 to 7000 and more, I know a girl who is a stunner friend of mine who went with a rich guy for 15000 recently. But I took a stunner for 2500 at 4 am from Empire club last week as there was no one else around, I wasn't completely drunk and had a bit of decent chat. Definitely a spark there with the girl and a few laughs which helps, Thai girls love a guy who smiles and is approachable. Then again I've also paid 5000 for a girl from Harem who was a 10 in looks. Performance wasn't great though so there you go. I learn to take the rough with the smooth, it averages out.

Bar fines also range massively and this can be a killer is the BF is 2000 which it is in some places. That's why I prefer freelancers and part timers.

By the way, the above is for Patong. Venture out and you'll get away from the 4000 plus girls and be paying 2500 on average I think. Choice is limited though of course, Patong is the capital of Phuket for this stuff.

[QUOTE=BlackCar;2349608]Hi all,

What's the going rates in Phuket now for short and long time, for bar girls, gogo girls, and free lancers?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I have been back here. Same deal, same HJ only joint but clean place with superb service. Place is at the start of Lagoon Road with a green sign. One girl in particular I have been frequenting and provides excellent service with a smile.

[QUOTE=DavidRim;2220914]I visited the establishment as reported by Gunners a few pages back. Was low season so quiet on arrival with lots of girls hanging around outside. One popped up and seemed friendly and attractive for her age, I'm guessing late 30's but petite. Fon was the name I think. All the girls seem average to good in terms of looks, but as the services seem limited to HJ as well as a superb massage to start and there's no access / nakedness on their part, looks are secondary. It's the service that wins over.

Chose a 90 min massage, 600 THB. In the room I stripped naked, no questions asked. Really great strong oil massage ensued and on the flip the twigs and berries action began. As reported previously, tips are not discussed until the end which is most refreshing. We had a good half an hour of her giving the an incredible cock and balls massage, she was fine to take her time, slowing down when I was close and edging me right till the end where the explosion was fierce.

1000 THB to the lady as seems standard and I left a happy man. This is the kind of place to visit maybe when you've had a few too many the night before and can't be bothered to put any effort in. Just experience the wonderful Thai hospitality. If you're staying in Laguna / Bangtao / Surin area, it's a great option without the trek to Patong. It's an area frequented by tourists in couples and families, so I'd even suggest if with your other half on holiday she could easily have a legit massage (it easily passes for a legit massage joint) while you are a naughty boy next door. Keep the noise down fellas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DavidRim;2353087]Depends on the perceived rating (looks) of the girl and what she's been able to charge in the past, how much she wants to go with you, time of night, etc etc etc. LT can range from 2000 to 7000 and more, I know a girl who is a stunner friend of mine who went with a rich guy for 15000 recently. But I took a stunner for 2500 at 4 am from Empire club last week as there was no one else around, I wasn't completely drunk and had a bit of decent chat. Definitely a spark there with the girl and a few laughs which helps, Thai girls love a guy who smiles and is approachable. Then again I've also paid 5000 for a girl from Harem who was a 10 in looks. Performance wasn't great though so there you go. I learn to take the rough with the smooth, it averages out.

Bar fines also range massively and this can be a killer is the BF is 2000 which it is in some places. That's why I prefer freelancers and part timers.

By the way, the above is for Patong. Venture out and you'll get away from the 4000 plus girls and be paying 2500 on average I think. Choice is limited though of course, Patong is the capital of Phuket for this stuff.[/QUOTE]Great summary David.

Was around here in Patong will post shortly with details.

So Patong called me; literally. Was on a trip to nearby country and hoped via Phuket and really had a good time for 2.5 days with count of 8 times sex.

Always like this city with so many things for everyone, from adventure, to beaches, to food, to massaz, to babes.

So day 1 I arrived and check in at my hotel Days inn by Whdhman very near to bangla street (hotel cost 40 USD per day with no joiner fee) delux standard room with a double bed and a shower.

So here are my encounters and guide:

MPs: 2 kinds of MPs: one that offers extras; and second that don't. Massaz at both places are good.

First MP category: just walk into any MP; girls sit outside some calling customers, some doing makeups; they will handover a chart with rates to you with Thai massage for 300 THB and oil for 400 THB, everything being negotiable by 100 THB. You choose a girl go inside; so day 1 I went in one near to hotel sleep with me opposite to the hotel and saw a cute chubby girl. Went in with her. She took me upstairs and asked to remove everything (she stressed everything hehe) ; she gave a great moil massage for 300 thb and then we negotiated for boom boom at 700 thb. She rode on top of me and johnny came in the cee.

Repeated another 4 MPs in the same street on next 2 days. Really good time and approx damages vary from MP to MP in the range of 1000 to 1500 thb.

Soapy: Christine: Went to Christine massage on Day 2 around 6 pm. They are a soapy establishment; the guy showed the girls, chose a tall petite thai girl name isa for 90 minutes for 300 THB. She took me upstairs in a room and after that it was pure bliss, with rubber bed; she sliding up and down with soap and naked. Did some BJ too and post that we went to bed for boom boom. After I was done she gave me a decent massage to for 30 minutes. Tipped 500 to her for the service she gave. She was delighted and asked me to come again.

GoGo Bars: Went there and checked all around 1 AM in night; Suzy wong 1, Suzy Wong 2, Harem all nearby. Saw a 9/10 girl dancing on the poll; went to her and talked for a while, but she seem already occupied with another table with Chinese men and women who have bought her drinks on the table already. So left her to them and went to other one. Bough few drinks for the ladies and went out to to clubs since the bar fine was too high 2000 thb and moreover they will not come with you to hotel till 3/4 am when the bar closes. So if you are looking at waiting / spending that much time in a gogo bar, then only it makes sense to stay and spend money on lady drinks.

Clubs: Illusion, Hollywood, Tiger, Tia Pan.

All have same mode of operation; the clubs start at 11 and have decent number of lady till 1 am, wherein you approach any girl, buy her a drink and if she is interested just ask her with a smile for ST / LT and negotiate. So day 1 I picked up a stunner with from illuzion, the music was good; it was jam packed, no entry fee. Bought myself and the lady some drinks. Asked her out; she agreed to go at 3 am for 1500 LT, went to room and ordered a pizza, we ate, brushed teeth and had bath and made out in the shower. (bring your own condom if you can, otherwise go to any pharmacy or ask hotel if you have forgotten, they can provide in mini bar too). So we both woke up in morning and since I was horny we made boom boom again. Paid her the money and asked her to go. She wrote back her number and went with a smile. I took shower and had breakfast and slept again for few hours.

To continue on other clubs in my next post.

Freelancers / Street scene.

You will find many lady boys roaming on bangla and pulling you. Be friendly with them and refuse politely if you don't want their attention.

MP girls are also willing to meet you after 12 midnight when the MP closes; provided you take them out for lunch or dinner and spend a good time and also pay them for night. I tried on from day 1 for 1500 full night and dinner for 400 thb.

Hotels: All hotels are GF, though some charge Joiner fee and some don't; so call up your hotel and check out with them. Directly ask them on joiner fee. Book a room for 2 people, always!

You may rent a car or bike (200 THB for 24 hours; gasoline extra as per your refills) even if your hotel is far away, so choose hotel depending on your taste.

I had read good things about KM before and managed to give it a try.

The place is pretty straight forward to find and the website is very helpful and very accurate. I went early afternoon having messaged them an hour earlier. Ground floor entrance lounge is pleasant and busy with Thai support staff. I was told that low season pricing was THB2,000 all inclusive. Great news so far! I was asked to take a seat whilst they assembled the available girls. One minute later, seven of the girls shown on the website were stood before me. All mid twenties and in the 5 to 7 out of 10 range. I deliberated for a minute and chose the girl I had tentatively chosen from the site. The rest of the girls left, the reception took my 2 k, swapped my shoes for some house slippers and ushered me upstairs with the said girl.

The rooms are now looking a bit worn out but were very clean and had decent A/C and towels.

The girl was friendly and relaxed me immediately. Little English but quickly intimated we should strip and shower. A very soapy shower followed and she made a point of letting me soap every bit of her and rinse it off. Still great thus far.

Quickly to the bed and she asked if I wanted a massage. Out came the oils and a sensuous B2B massage followed. Including nibbling my ear and low panting. Getting excited now. She flipped me pretty quickly and placed my hand on her left boob asking me to squeeze. Next thing, she slid up me and sat fully on my face riding my tongue. She was wet already and tasted fantastic. She turned and 69'd for a while then slipped a condom on me. Next followed some amazing reverse cowgirl then riding me hard whilst grabbing the headboard. She came (convincingly) hard and I was impressed enough to inquire was she for real. She lifted herself off my cock to show me just how much of her cum was on me. This was working out great. She slipped off the condom and oiled my cock then hard wanked it until I came. Everywhere.

She was delighted. I was delighted and she mopped up the cum that was all over her and all over me. More gentle massage followed then a final shower down.

No rush, no demands. Just a lovely girl and good memories. I gave her a fat tip and she showed me back downstairs. The staff thanked me for my business and I told them I would be back. I meant it!

If anyone is out in Patong tonight, let me know. Might head over there.

Hey Clam Hunter. What was the name of the girl if you don't mind sharing?

I've had hit or miss experiences there and want to make sure the next time I go is great.

Thanks.

DD.

[QUOTE=ClamHunter;2354420]I had read good things about KM before and managed to give it a try.

The place is pretty straight forward to find and the website is very helpful and very accurate. I went early afternoon having messaged them an hour earlier. Ground floor entrance lounge is pleasant and busy with Thai support staff. I was told that low season pricing was THB2,000 all inclusive. Great news so far! I was asked to take a seat whilst they assembled the available girls. One minute later, seven of the girls shown on the website were stood before me. All mid twenties and in the 5 to 7 out of 10 range. I deliberated for a minute and chose the girl I had tentatively chosen from the site. The rest of the girls left, the reception took my 2 k, swapped my shoes for some house slippers and ushered me upstairs with the said girl.

The rooms are now looking a bit worn out but were very clean and had decent A/C and towels.

The girl was friendly and relaxed me immediately. Little English but quickly intimated we should strip and shower. A very soapy shower followed and she made a point of letting me soap every bit of her and rinse it off. Still great thus far.

Quickly to the bed and she asked if I wanted a massage. Out came the oils and a sensuous B2B massage followed. Including nibbling my ear and low panting. Getting excited now. She flipped me pretty quickly and placed my hand on her left boob asking me to squeeze. Next thing, she slid up me and sat fully on my face riding my tongue. She was wet already and tasted fantastic. She turned and 69'd for a while then slipped a condom on me. Next followed some amazing reverse cowgirl then riding me hard whilst grabbing the headboard. She came (convincingly) hard and I was impressed enough to inquire was she for real. She lifted herself off my cock to show me just how much of her cum was on me. This was working out great. She slipped off the condom and oiled my cock then hard wanked it until I came. Everywhere.

She was delighted. I was delighted and she mopped up the cum that was all over her and all over me. More gentle massage followed then a final shower down.

No rush, no demands. Just a lovely girl and good memories. I gave her a fat tip and she showed me back downstairs. The staff thanked me for my business and I told them I would be back. I meant it![/QUOTE]

Nice report mate. For massage and extra, soi kep sap is the place to be; I've had decent luck pulling ladies from Gogo's without paying a bar fine but that is only when I have bought them enough lady drinks and was able to convince me to give them their number so we can meet privately. For me, Harem's quality of girls supersedes Suzy Wong.

Glad you had a great time.

[QUOTE=AbhiSingh;2353562]So Patong called me; literally. Was on a trip to nearby country and hoped via Phuket and really had a good time for 2.5 days with count of 8 times sex.

Always like this city with so many things for everyone, from adventure, to beaches, to food, to massaz, to babes.

So day 1 I arrived and check in at my hotel Days inn by Whdhman very near to bangla street (hotel cost 40 USD per day with no joiner fee) delux standard room with a double bed and a shower.

So here are my encounters and guide:

MPs: 2 kinds of MPs: one that offers extras; and second that don't. Massaz at both places are good.

First MP category: just walk into any MP; girls sit outside some calling customers, some doing makeups; they will handover a chart with rates to you with Thai massage for 300 THB and oil for 400 THB, everything being negotiable by 100 THB. You choose a girl go inside; so day 1 I went in one near to hotel sleep with me opposite to the hotel and saw a cute chubby girl. Went in with her. She took me upstairs and asked to remove everything (she stressed everything hehe) ; she gave a great moil massage for 300 thb and then we negotiated for boom boom at 700 thb. She rode on top of me and johnny came in the cee.

Repeated another 4 MPs in the same street on next 2 days. Really good time and approx damages vary from MP to MP in the range of 1000 to 1500 thb.

Soapy: Christine: Went to Christine massage on Day 2 around 6 pm. They are a soapy establishment; the guy showed the girls, chose a tall petite thai girl name isa for 90 minutes for 300 THB. She took me upstairs in a room and after that it was pure bliss, with rubber bed; she sliding up and down with soap and naked. Did some BJ too and post that we went to bed for boom boom. After I was done she gave me a decent massage to for 30 minutes. Tipped 500 to her for the service she gave. She was delighted and asked me to come again.

GoGo Bars: Went there and checked all around 1 AM in night; Suzy wong 1, Suzy Wong 2, Harem all nearby. Saw a 9/10 girl dancing on the poll; went to her and talked for a while, but she seem already occupied with another table with Chinese men and women who have bought her drinks on the table already. So left her to them and went to other one. Bough few drinks for the ladies and went out to to clubs since the bar fine was too high 2000 thb and moreover they will not come with you to hotel till 3/4 am when the bar closes. So if you are looking at waiting / spending that much time in a gogo bar, then only it makes sense to stay and spend money on lady drinks.

Clubs: Illusion, Hollywood, Tiger, Tia Pan.

All have same mode of operation; the clubs start at 11 and have decent number of lady till 1 am, wherein you approach any girl, buy her a drink and if she is interested just ask her with a smile for ST / LT and negotiate. So day 1 I picked up a stunner with from illuzion, the music was good; it was jam packed, no entry fee. Bought myself and the lady some drinks. Asked her out; she agreed to go at 3 am for 1500 LT, went to room and ordered a pizza, we ate, brushed teeth and had bath and made out in the shower. (bring your own condom if you can, otherwise go to any pharmacy or ask hotel if you have forgotten, they can provide in mini bar too). So we both woke up in morning and since I was horny we made boom boom again. Paid her the money and asked her to go. She wrote back her number and went with a smile. I took shower and had breakfast and slept again for few hours.

To continue on other clubs in my next post.

Freelancers / Street scene.

You will find many lady boys roaming on bangla and pulling you. Be friendly with them and refuse politely if you don't want their attention.

MP girls are also willing to meet you after 12 midnight when the MP closes; provided you take them out for lunch or dinner and spend a good time and also pay them for night. I tried on from day 1 for 1500 full night and dinner for 400 thb.

Hotels: All hotels are GF, though some charge Joiner fee and some don't; so call up your hotel and check out with them. Directly ask them on joiner fee. Book a room for 2 people, always!

You may rent a car or bike (200 THB for 24 hours; gasoline extra as per your refills) even if your hotel is far away, so choose hotel depending on your taste.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DongguanDoug;2356082]Hey Clam Hunter. What was the name of the girl if you don't mind sharing?

I've had hit or miss experiences there and want to make sure the next time I go is great.

Thanks.

DD.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DongguanDoug;2356082]Hey Clam Hunter. What was the name of the girl if you don't mind sharing?

I've had hit or miss experiences there and want to make sure the next time I go is great.

Thanks.

DD.[/QUOTE]Hey DD.

They rotate quite heavily I rarely see someone stay longer than a month but some girls are recurring. I just noticed their homepage is a lot more profile which means they started to be on the radar. I think you should ask them about service level and do they give the BS answer of all is good just go with the returning ones. They would not keep coming back if they don't generate good biz.

[QUOTE=DongguanDoug;2356082]Hey Clam Hunter. What was the name of the girl if you don't mind sharing?

I've had hit or miss experiences there and want to make sure the next time I go is great.

Thanks.

DD.[/QUOTE]The girl was called Pinky. She told me that they rotate her around a few MP's and that she was actually going to Japan for a few weeks. I see that this week she has been pulled from the Gallery. I guess she will be back next month.

Hi friends.

I am visiting to Phuket for the first time in September. I am Staying in Phuket for 7 days in a girl guest friendly hotel near Bangla Road. Can anyone suggest where I can find Western / Russian girls in phuket? Any night club suggestions? What is the normal charges for Western / Russian girls for LT?

I have been regularly visiting Pattaya but not the Phuket. I am visiting Phuket for the first time for a change. Can anyone give me more information with regard to this.

[QUOTE=Happy2017;2362735]I am Staying in Phuket for 7 days in a girl guest friendly hotel near Bangla Road. Can anyone suggest where I can find Western / Russian girls in phuket? Any night club suggestions? What is the normal charges for Western / Russian girls for LT?

I am visiting Phuket for the first time for a change. Can anyone give me more information with regard to this.[/QUOTE]Read this Forum. Go back a year or so. Consider the lack of frequent posts to be significant.

And let us know how it goes.

Bro,

Check my FR in that forum.

[QUOTE=Happy2017;2362735]Hi friends.

I am visiting to Phuket for the first time in September. I am Staying in Phuket for 7 days in a girl guest friendly hotel near Bangla Road. Can anyone suggest where I can find Western / Russian girls in phuket? Any night club suggestions? What is the normal charges for Western / Russian girls for LT?

I have been regularly visiting Pattaya but not the Phuket. I am visiting Phuket for the first time for a change. Can anyone give me more information with regard to this.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Happy2017;2362735]Hi friends.

I am visiting to Phuket for the first time in September. I am Staying in Phuket for 7 days in a girl guest friendly hotel near Bangla Road. Can anyone suggest where I can find Western / Russian girls in phuket? Any night club suggestions? What is the normal charges for Western / Russian girls for LT?

I have been regularly visiting Pattaya but not the Phuket. I am visiting Phuket for the first time for a change. Can anyone give me more information with regard to this.[/QUOTE]I'll bite. 3 year lurker here, 1st time poster.

Over the last 4 years, I've been to Pattaya once and patong 5 times. 6th time coming up in mid Sep.

Didn't rate pattaya at all. That's for another time.

You will not get Western Women or Russians on any kind of short or long term basis. Do not go to Moulin Rouge, the Russian stripper club. It is a complete and utter ripoff / scam.

The only white or Russians you are getting are holidayers in a nightclub or on tinder.

Best nightclub, illusion easily. You are going to need big time game to pick up what you are after. Just stick to the Thais in bars or Thai freelancers on the street in the clubs.

As a side note, Patong holds a special place in my heart as it's the first location I was exposed to being a monger.

In saying that, appears crowds are down in both high and low season. Sure less crowds sounds great, but that means Thais have also returned to Isaan, so less bar girls working as well.

The BHT parity to AUD does not help much either. Compared to Mar 18, its a 25%;cost increase to me on exchange rate. If I don't enjoy this trip, I'll start switching to BKK or Vietnam.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Happy2017;2362735]Hi friends.

I am visiting to Phuket for the first time in September. I am Staying in Phuket for 7 days in a girl guest friendly hotel near Bangla Road. Can anyone suggest where I can find Western / Russian girls in phuket? Any night club suggestions? What is the normal charges for Western / Russian girls for LT?

I have been regularly visiting Pattaya but not the Phuket. I am visiting Phuket for the first time for a change. Can anyone give me more information with regard to this.[/QUOTE]I have met 2 Russians in Phuket. Just I paid their airfare to get there! Met them on Mamba. Didn't pay them just shouted them the holiday. Both pretty hot!

[QUOTE=Gherkinator;2363827]I'll bite. 3 year lurker here, 1st time poster.
In saying that, appears crowds are down in both high and low season. Sure less crowds sounds great, but that means Thais have also returned to Isaan, so less bar girls working as well.

The BHT parity to AUD does not help much either. Compared to Mar 18, its a 25%;cost increase to me on exchange rate. If I don't enjoy this trip, I'll start switching to BKK or Vietnam.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Yeah I think newcomers will enjoy Patong but from my first visit 2008 it really has turned into a big night club street removing the social aspect of sois filled with bars. There is still plenty of bars but really empty during high and low season if you explore inwards. To my own disliking it also has become some kind of loudness competition between some places sound systems which reminds me of southern Europe.

Please report your experience and I hope it is a good one despite trends!

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2365121]Yeah I think newcomers will enjoy Patong but from my first visit 2008 it really has turned into a big night club street removing the social aspect of sois filled with bars. There is still plenty of bars but really empty during high and low season if you explore inwards. To my own disliking it also has become some kind of loudness competition between some places sound systems which reminds me of southern Europe.

Please report your experience and I hope it is a good one despite trends![/QUOTE]Will do.

I'll elaborate whilst over there why Pattaya was not for me. 8 sleeps to go.

Cheers.

I was looking for a little extra curricular fun and couldn't face a full on Patong experience. Was driving towards Kamala and thought I would take a spin through Bang Tao village past Catch night club and down to Surin on the way.

On the Soi opposite Catch is a little Beer Bar called Spice Club. A couple of pool tables, largely local clientelle and circa 10 bar girls. 3 or 4 crackers. I played a couple of games of pool (badly) with various girls and really took a shine to a gorgeous Muslim beauty from Trang. 23 yrs old, cracking figure. Off the beaten track in low season you can be rest assured that the girls speak virtually no English. My Thai is 'nit noi' so with a little help from Google Translate we established that the bar fine was THB500 and that I could go to her place for a ST fuck for THB2000. I had another beer. She was pretty. I was horny (and couldn't be bothered driving elsewhere) so I paid the bill and we left. She (and the other girls) all live in Bungalows nearby (2 minutes). She was amazingly enthusiastic. Clothes off as soon as we were in through her front door and she had a quick shower. On her own and then with me. Then I really smashed her for 30 minutes or so and ended up cumming all over her tum. A little rushed but she was cute and it was fun. She was keen to get back to work and I joined her for a couple more beers and games of pool with her and her friends. There are probably 3 or 4 girls there that would each be worth a try. All very relaxed and friendly without the hassles and hustles of Patong.

I took her to her home again a couple of nights later and then to my house for a LT stint (same price) a week or so after. Lovely girl. Fucks like a bunny. WIR? Yes, but I made the cardinal sin of taking the same girl 3 times so now I doubt whether I would get away with taking her friends instead.

I recommend you look in if out in the sticks and looking for some action.

[QUOTE=ClamHunter;2367697]I was looking for a little extra curricular fun and couldn't face a full on Patong experience. Was driving towards Kamala and thought I would take a spin through Bang Tao village past Catch night club and down to Surin on the way.

On the Soi opposite Catch is a little Beer Bar called Spice Club. A couple of pool tables, largely local clientelle and circa 10 bar girls. 3 or 4 crackers. I played a couple of games of pool (badly) with various girls and really took a shine to a gorgeous Muslim beauty from Trang. 23 yrs old, cracking figure. Off the beaten track in low season you can be rest assured that the girls speak virtually no English. My Thai is 'nit noi' so with a little help from Google Translate we established that the bar fine was THB500 and that I could go to her place for a ST fuck for THB2000. I had another beer. She was pretty. I was horny (and couldn't be bothered driving elsewhere) so I paid the bill and we left. She (and the other girls) all live in Bungalows nearby (2 minutes). She was amazingly enthusiastic. Clothes off as soon as we were in through her front door and she had a quick shower. On her own and then with me. Then I really smashed her for 30 minutes or so and ended up cumming all over her tum. A little rushed but she was cute and it was fun. She was keen to get back to work and I joined her for a couple more beers and games of pool with her and her friends. There are probably 3 or 4 girls there that would each be worth a try. All very relaxed and friendly without the hassles and hustles of Patong.

I took her to her home again a couple of nights later and then to my house for a LT stint (same price) a week or so after. Lovely girl. Fucks like a bunny. WIR? Yes, but I made the cardinal sin of taking the same girl 3 times so now I doubt whether I would get away with taking her friends instead.

I recommend you look in if out in the sticks and looking for some action.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the detailed outing in BangTao. And I'll forgive you for banging that sweet pussy three times, LOL. I am weighing the +/- s of taking a week in this area / Phuket vs just staying in tried and true Pattaya. Its the Soi 6 value that has kept me repeating in Pattaya vs not being overly impressed during my one visit to Phuket. Felt like the crowded factor and prices sent me back to Pats and Bangkok vs repeating. Seems as if the prices are Bangkok levels where I like the ease and huge variety. What's your take on this?

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2365121]Yeah I think newcomers will enjoy Patong but from my first visit 2008 it really has turned into a big night club street removing the social aspect of sois filled with bars. There is still plenty of bars but really empty during high and low season if you explore inwards. To my own disliking it also has become some kind of loudness competition between some places sound systems which reminds me of southern Europe.

Please report your experience and I hope it is a good one despite trends![/QUOTE]Never saw it in 08, but the rest of your comments seem spot on.

Dear mates,

Need your fellow mongers advice about escorts agencies with good reviews here in Phuket.

Totally agree with you on the two aspects of ease and variety. Phuket doesn't have the wide choices that BKK and Pattaya have to offer. And the prices are usually higher.

[QUOTE=Achmmc;2368397]Thank you for the detailed outing in BangTao. And I'll forgive you for banging that sweet pussy three times, LOL. I am weighing the +/- s of taking a week in this area / Phuket vs just staying in tried and true Pattaya. Its the Soi 6 value that has kept me repeating in Pattaya vs not being overly impressed during my one visit to Phuket. Felt like the crowded factor and prices sent me back to Pats and Bangkok vs repeating. Seems as if the prices are Bangkok levels where I like the ease and huge variety. What's your take on this?[/QUOTE]

Stopped by Christen soon after it opened at 1 PM. Only about 6 girls in the fish bowl. I took a little too long telling the host which one I liked, so some other punter scooped her up just before me. Luckily, 5 min later several other girls showed up and one of them. Mina, was smoking hot. I didn't mess around this time, and immediately reserved her. 20's, thin with a nice ass, and augmented the cup tits. She is supper friendly and takes her time on the bath and then the body to body massage. By the time we hit the bed, I was out of my mind! She propped her cute ass up on a pillow and motioned that she wanted DATY. She go super into it, and then we moved into 69 - all uncovered. After a while slipped on a condom and jumped on top of me. A great time was had. She did ask for a tip at the end, which I provided. Damage: $3500 to the establishment and $500 tip to Mina.

Went up and down Bangla countless times looking to score something I wanted without a bar fine, but just couldn't find it. Decided to go to Harem and get a sure thing. The place was packed with stunners but not a single one seemed to have the fun attitude that I'm used to in Pattaya. I ended up leaving after one drink. After more investigating, I realized that Tiger Bar was actually many small bars and some that are away from the street looked fun. I ended up at Sin City when I caught the eye Of the hostess. This is a small bar and I may have been the only patron but the hostess, bartender, and poll dancer were all hot and fun. The pole dancer, Ty, was especially smoking hot. As soon as I sat down, the hostess pulled out a dice game and challenged me for a drink. I promptly switched my dice with hers and lost anyway! We played several rounds while having a good time and drinking. When Ty was done dancing she joined for a three-way game. We had a blast for several hours. I racked up a 3000 B bar bill (which I didn't consider bad since I was buying hostess and Ty drinks all night and got hammered myself.). I bar-fined Ty for 1000 B and we agreed on LT for 3000 B.

Ty is that awesome mix of PSE and GFE. Giving me everything I asked for and literally begging for my cum. Several rounds of fun were had! - highly recommended.

A cute attendant caught my eye while eating some pizza at Salute (it's great by the way). Decided to see how these street MP's work, not knowing if it was a legit parlor. I figured worse case I'the get a massage from pretty young Thai girl for 300 B. Upon paying she didn't take me to the beds that are visible from the street but instead to a dark room upstairs. She gave me a great legit massage and then on the flip pointed at my dick. My kind of girl! She offered 2000 B for BBBJ, I countered $500. We settled on 1000 B. I probably could have held out for something less, but I was on a time crunch.

She gave a great BBBJ complete with deepthroating, gagging, spitting on my dick etc. (This girl has been watching some porn!) All in, I got a kick ass massage and came in a beautiful Thai girls mouth for 1300 B. Life could be worse!

[QUOTE=Custom404;2372809]A cute attendant caught my eye while eating some pizza at Salute (it's great by the way). Decided to see how these street MP's work, not knowing if it was a legit parlor. I figured worse case I'the get a massage from pretty young Thai girl for 300 B. Upon paying she didn't take me to the beds that are visible from the street but instead to a dark room upstairs. She gave me a great legit massage and then on the flip pointed at my dick. My kind of girl! She offered 2000 B for BBBJ, I countered $500. We settled on 1000 B. I probably could have held out for something less, but I was on a time crunch.

She gave a great BBBJ complete with deepthroating, gagging, spitting on my dick etc. (This girl has been watching some porn!) All in, I got a kick ass massage and came in a beautiful Thai girls mouth for 1300 B. Life could be worse![/QUOTE]You happen to get her name?

SK from reading the various reports, it looks like if you want some hotel room action then its the GoGo bars like Harem, and Suzy Wong etc.

But have to pay barfire, lady drinks, and of course lady. All that would come up to 4000 to take a bar girl to room?

Plus with no escort like option like a smooci then bar girl 4 k it is.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2377137]SK from reading the various reports, it looks like if you want some hotel room action then its the GoGo bars like Harem, and Suzy Wong etc.

But have to pay barfire, lady drinks, and of course lady. All that would come up to 4000 to take a bar girl to room?

Plus with no escort like option like a smooci then bar girl 4 k it is.[/QUOTE]There appeared to be many freelancers (5-7) walking on / near Bangla. I was looking for a 9-10, so passed. However, I'm sure they could have been had for much less.

[QUOTE=Custom404;2377389]There appeared to be many freelancers (5-7) walking on / near Bangla. I was looking for a 9-10, so passed. However, I'm sure they could have been had for much less.[/QUOTE]Try Thaifriendly, now that the busy season is about to bloom, many ladies from Issan have returned to reap the rewards. But you better have money for the 9's and 10's your looking for. They don't come cheap and one reason is that there is a lot of competition for them.

They are not walking on Bangla or in the bars, They are sitting at home responding to inquiries from the web sites. And they are not going anywhere unless they get paid what they feel they are worth. If your a cheap Charlie you better be happy with the 5-7's. There are a lot of high rollers in Phuket and they pay well. This is Phuket not Pattaya. Phuket is the most expensive province in Thailand. For everything, have you taken a taxi? Then you know that what you just paid a taxi 800 baht for is only 200 baht in Bangkok. But then again maybe your 10 is another mans 6. Each to his own.

RL.

Went to Phuket 6 days in September for a company-paid conference (also visited BKK, Pattaya, Makati, Lapu2, Dalaguete, Cebu City, Angeles and Subic). Stayed at three different hotels in Phuket. #1 Orchid Resort in Karon -- a family oriented place with lots of kids running around. Met a shop owner nearby, older lady with with big boobs, and took her to dinner so she fucked me nice but later expected more money so I think it's better to stick with a paid arrangement and clarify expectations up front. #2 Baan Karon Hotel great panoramic views of Karon Beach but man those steep hills are grueling for my 64 year old legs. The staff and amenities suck there too: no TV reception, no internet in the room and no restaurant on-site. The plus side is good restaurant on the beach below and nice pool on-site. The restaurant used to have pet monkey named Josephine but they told me she ran off with another monkey. Went into Phuket City to Katherines massage parlor but did not see anything I liked. Met a massage girl with nice big tits in Bangla and took her to hotel #3 Naiyang Seaview hotel near the Phuket airport. This is a great little beach and only 10 minutes from the terminals. Had a great time with Neeny the massage girl serenading her with a guitar I bought at the mall in Bangkok. She fucked and sucked me silly and gave great massages although somewhat expensive 10 K baht for two days and nights. She is keeping the guitar for me for next time. Cheers, mates.

Hello guys,

I'm not sure if this thread is the correct one because its a mix of both and I read 3 years in the past but did not find enough information for my problem.

My situation is that I will travel with a married pal of me to Patong in November. We booked a room together to have more BHT to burn and I bet we will burn some BHT in a good and in a bad way.

So as I mentioned he is married and does not support or is understanding enough to allow me to bring a "girlfriend" back to our room, (even if I did it will cost 1000 BHT Joiner Fee) which I can understand.

My problem is, if I find a good looking Girl and the price for the night is good where do I go with her?

I thought maybe it is possible to do a midnight / early morning check in (11:30 PM-2:30 AM) for example in the Sea Cono or ACCA Hotel or every other clean girlfriendly Hotel until 9 AM, schould be enough time for boom boom.

Is this a good solution for my problem or do I have to rely on the Soi Seadragon Guest Room, which I don't know if it is clean?

[QUOTE=Kiron;2382989]Hello guys,


My problem is, if I find a good looking Girl and the price for the night is good where do I go with her?

I thought maybe it is possible to do a midnight / early morning check in (11:30 PM-2:30 AM) for example in the Sea Cono or ACCA Hotel or every other clean girlfriendly Hotel until 9 AM, schould be enough time for boom boom.

Is this a good solution for my problem or do I have to rely on the Soi Seadragon Guest Room, which I don't know if it is clean?[/QUOTE]There are short time hotels around central Patong that you can rent for several hrs to all day. Do a search or ask around. The girl would probably know. I think I have used the Soi Seadragon and it was fine.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2383136]There are short time hotels around central Patong that you can rent for several hrs to all day. Do a search or ask around. The girl would probably know. I think I have used the Soi Seadragon and it was fine.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.

Could you tell me what was the price as you used the Soi Seadragon Guest House or if you know what is the general price for short time hotels in this area?

My guess is 1500 BHT for all day short time, but I could be wrong, I don't want to be ripped off.

[QUOTE=DCups;2377599]Neeny the massage girl serenading her with a guitar I bought at the mall in Bangkok. She fucked and sucked me silly and gave great massages although somewhat expensive 10 K baht for two days and nights. She is keeping the guitar for me for next time. Cheers, mates.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree about the massage girls. I don't drink and have little interest in spending a pile of cash getting drunk. Walk around the massage shops, take note of the pretties. Then go back and chose the one which appeals. The girls work on a round robin, so you might get another girl. Politely insist on the one you want. Then have an oil massage. Do not let her talk you into a happy ending. If the rapport is there agree to meet her after work which is mostly 11 pm. Agree to meet at McDonald's or some such. She might not want the other girls seeing you come to pick her up after work. Then ask her to come to your room. This has never failed and you will get a girl for 1500.2000 without a barfine or excessive alcohol costs. If you service her well and make her feel like a woman she might stay the night. I find the best foreplay is to buy her dinner in the way to the hotel.

Shout out to all the seniors.

I am visiting the island town in December with family. I do not have the privilege of doing a hotel run. Pleas can anyone point me to any short time bars where you drink and can also do a quickie in their rooms. Something like Pattaya's Soi 6. Response will be much appreciated. My PM is active if anyone is gracious enough with additional information. I can help out with BKK in reciprocal.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Kiron;2383276]Thanks for the info.

Could you tell me what was the price as you used the Soi Seadragon Guest House or if you know what is the general price for short time hotels in this area?

My guess is 1500 BHT for all day short time, but I could be wrong, I don't want to be ripped off.[/QUOTE]I think it was about 300 baht for about 2 - 3 hrs. Was 2 years ago. There are a few around that I noticed on my walks.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2384724]I think it was about 300 baht for about 2 - 3 hrs. Was 2 years ago. There are a few around that I noticed on my walks.[/QUOTE]Thanks pal.

So adding it up 1000 BHT roughly for 9 hours should be fair for a Short Time Room.

If I don't miss it out I will report about the Short Time Rooms and Girls with a few pics.

Hello gentlemen,

I was in Patong in May and enjoyed going to Paradise Beach every day. It was nice. I wanted to go to Freedom Beach but it was not advisable at that time.

I am going back to Patong this week. Please tell me what is the status of the beaches on the Andaman side of Phuket. Can I go swimming now? Thanks!

I don't see this forum to be very active therefore asked the question. Are there any places in Phuket like Tulip, Annies or Snow white? I had a great experience in Bangkok at these places. Want to visit similar places in Phuket as well. Thanks Members.

[QUOTE=HungerGamer;2384534]Shout out to all the seniors.

I am visiting the island town in December with family. I do not have the privilege of doing a hotel run. Pleas can anyone point me to any short time bars where you drink and can also do a quickie in their rooms. Something like Pattaya's Soi 6. Response will be much appreciated. My PM is active if anyone is gracious enough with additional information. I can help out with BKK in reciprocal.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are several hourly hotels in the alleys around the main Bangla road. Just ask any waitress / girl at the bars, they will surely know.

I went to a strip of bars by chalong pier last year in phuket. It was kind of a low class place but fun. Do girls stay at places like that long term? I coming back in January will I see a lot of the same women or mostly new? I know no one knows the exact answer but many here know how thailand bars work and can give a probable answer. I have a couple of reviews of the area in my history.

Thanks.

I'm booking a hotel for my first ever visit to Phuket. [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] lists many places near Bangla road as "Great for Families" Does this mean they are not girl friendly? I sure don't want that!

Some examples:
DoubleTree on Thaveewong Road.
Patong Beach Hotel on Taweewong.
Hotel Clover Patong on Taweewong.

I'll be going in February. Any suggestions of girl friendly places in the 3500-5000 THB price range would be appreciated. I'm just now starting to study the Phuket forum.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2391456]I'm booking a hotel for my first ever visit to Phuket. [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] lists many places near Bangla road as "Great for Families" Does this mean they are not girl friendly? I sure don't want that!

Some examples:
DoubleTree on Thaveewong Road.
Patong Beach Hotel on Taweewong.
Hotel Clover Patong on Taweewong.

I'll be going in February. Any suggestions of girl friendly places in the 3500-5000 THB price range would be appreciated. I'm just now starting to study the Phuket forum.[/QUOTE]Book the Rmar and don't look back. It is a nice clean small hotel and tucked away. Walkable to Bangla Road easy but off the beaten path. No noise. Girl friendly. Great staff. We loved it. Would repeat if I am back in Phuket.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2390097]I went to a strip of bars by chalong pier last year in phuket. It was kind of a low class place but fun. Do girls stay at places like that long term? I coming back in January will I see a lot of the same women or mostly new? I know no one knows the exact answer but many here know how thailand bars work and can give a probable answer. I have a couple of reviews of the area in my history.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Horatio PM me if you want me to check further details I know people in the area. But overall they rotate staff and some find "love" etc.

[QUOTE=Hari1309;2388341]I don't see this forum to be very active therefore asked the question. Are there any places in Phuket like Tulip, Annies or Snow white? I had a great experience in Bangkok at these places. Want to visit similar places in Phuket as well. Thanks Members.[/QUOTE]Look at my earlier posts about Katherines and that area itself. Patong is mainly expensive as fuck now and overflowing with coyotes playing the game.

Hi everyone,

I've been doing the Pattaya thing for the the last number of years and its been about 6 years since I've been to Patong (I've been there twice, once in 2013 and then in 2015. The first time there I wasn't into this hobby and the second time was spent with a gorgeous massage girl that I met. I'm thinking about going again this September. October 2020 for a change from Patts and I'm just wondering a rough estimate of the BF and ST costs on the various bars on Bangla Road. Last time I was there I didn't spend much time there and the girls didn't seem the ST type more the LT or coyote / girl to play connect with type. Mind you I was a newbie at the time and didn't know how shit worked then, now not so much. Flame me or tell me to FTFF if needed.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=PaulAlbert;2391853]Hi everyone,

I've been doing the Pattaya thing for the the last number of years and its been about 6 years since I've been to Patong (I've been there twice, once in 2013 and then in 2015. The first time there I wasn't into this hobby and the second time was spent with a gorgeous massage girl that I met. I'm thinking about going again this September. October 2020 for a change from Patts and I'm just wondering a rough estimate of the BF and ST costs on the various bars on Bangla Road. Last time I was there I didn't spend much time there and the girls didn't seem the ST type more the LT or coyote / girl to play connect with type. Mind you I was a newbie at the time and didn't know how shit worked then, now not so much. Flame me or tell me to FTFF if needed.

Thanks![/QUOTE]September is normally a quiet month and start of heavy rains in Phuket. Historically I have had a blast in Phuket and especially Patong being a part of that but recent few weeks I had some opportunities to roam around.

Kata, Karon and especially Kamala was really empty in end of October and start of November which also echoes in Patong. Illuzion was moderately packed but overflowing with FLs at midnight++. Suzy Wong had more girls than patrons and want 150 THB for a soft drink even if you buy a bottle of JD. If your wallet is thick and you don't mind splurging I think Patong is perfectly fine. But overall I think you will get more for less money in Bangkok or Pattaya. I would even go so far to say even if I am a bit of novice int that area that you most likely can have a better adventure going to Hat Yai.

Prices quoted from some ladies in Phuket are ridiculous seeing how little customers there are: 2000 THB BF and 5000ST. Personally I didn't go for this and it is possible to find more for less. If you know how to work it (them), the culture and language you will be able to go all the way to freebie. However I did see some Coyotes signalling they want to go with customers and asking for drinks but never intending to do so. Just be aware of this and make it clear early if they available before you splurge to avoid these "scams".

Feel free to PM if you have any queries.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2391589]Book the Rmar and don't look back. It is a nice clean small hotel and tucked away. Walkable to Bangla Road easy but off the beaten path. No noise. Girl friendly. Great staff. We loved it. Would repeat if I am back in Phuket.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that's exactly the kind of place I was seeking. Had some problems finding it on the various booking websites because different sites have it listed differently. R Mar versus R-Mar versus RMar were all used in one place or another. Prices for my travel dates for the same room and breakfast ranged from $85 to $165 depending on which website you used and if you bought a refundable reservation. I ended up paying $115, which was the cheapest available refundable rate. That was [URL]hotels.com[/URL] while [URL]agoda.com[/URL] had the lowest non refundable rate. The next day my buddy tried to buy the same room for the same days and the prices were different. Timing is important.

The prices I quoted did not include the large taxes and fees associated with hotels.com. On my first visit to a Thailand hotel I usually book using a booking site, but subsequent visits are booked through the hotel directly. That seems to save a good amount of money. For example, for my Koh Samui stay hotels.com wanted $115 per night (including taxes and fees) but I arranged 2300 THB directly with the hotel. Thats a big savings, but I dont deal direct until I have developed trust in that particular hotel.

My favorite part of the RMar experience is this irony — Prostitution is illegal in Thailand. So I laughed out loud when checking in they give you a little card that says "If you bring a girl back to your room, she is not entitled to the free breakfast". Hahaha I still remember that. It's illegal, yet we had all these cards printed up. 😋.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2392473]Thanks, that's exactly the kind of place I was seeking. Had some problems finding it on the various booking websites because different sites have it listed differently. R Mar versus R-Mar versus RMar were all used in one place or another. Prices for my travel dates for the same room and breakfast ranged from $85 to $165 depending on which website you used and if you bought a refundable reservation. I ended up paying $115, which was the cheapest available refundable rate. That was [URL]hotels.com[/URL] while [URL]agoda.com[/URL] had the lowest non refundable rate. The next day my buddy tried to buy the same room for the same days and the prices were different. Timing is important.

The prices I quoted did not include the large taxes and fees associated with hotels.com. On my first visit to a Thailand hotel I usually book using a booking site, but subsequent visits are booked through the hotel directly. That seems to save a good amount of money. For example, for my Koh Samui stay hotels.com wanted $115 per night (including taxes and fees) but I arranged 2300 THB directly with the hotel. Thats a big savings, but I dont deal direct until I have developed trust in that particular hotel.[/QUOTE]

Can advice me on which is the best go go bar there?

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2392154]September is normally a quiet month and start of heavy rains in Phuket. Historically I have had a blast in Phuket and especially Patong being a part of that but recent few weeks I had some opportunities to roam around.

Kata, Karon and especially Kamala was really empty in end of October and start of November which also echoes in Patong. Illuzion was moderately packed but overflowing with FLs at midnight++. Suzy Wong had more girls than patrons and want 150 THB for a soft drink even if you buy a bottle of JD. If your wallet is thick and you don't mind splurging I think Patong is perfectly fine. But overall I think you will get more for less money in Bangkok or Pattaya. I would even go so far to say even if I am a bit of novice int that area that you most likely can have a better adventure going to Hat Yai.

Prices quoted from some ladies in Phuket are ridiculous seeing how little customers there are: 2000 THB BF and 5000ST. Personally I didn't go for this and it is possible to find more for less. If you know how to work it (them), the culture and language you will be able to go all the way to freebie. However I did see some Coyotes signalling they want to go with customers and asking for drinks but never intending to do so. Just be aware of this and make it clear early if they available before you splurge to avoid these "scams".

Feel free to PM if you have any queries.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Raj1011;2392824]Can advice me on which is the best go go bar there?[/QUOTE]So full disclosure I have not been to Pattaya. But if you were to get a consensus from this board I feel certain that Phuket / Patong would be ranked well below Patts and BK for girl activities. So don't go to Phuket if that is your main purpose.

But supposing you are there. Down Bangla Road about 2/3 way down on the right (headed to the beach) is Soi Sea Dragon. This little alley has all the best Gogo IMO and lots of little beer bars. There are at least five or six gogos to choose from. Just poke into various ones and see what cranks you up. Two years back Harem was the nicest venue and pretty girls but high priced. We had best luck at Diablo. Small club but three hotties we liked. Maybe just lucky. Anyhow just cruise Sea Dragon and see what strikes your fancy.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2392914]So full disclosure I have not been to Pattaya. But if you were to get a consensus from this board I feel certain that Phuket / Patong would be ranked well below Patts and BK for girl activities. So don't go to Phuket if that is your main purpose.

But supposing you are there. Down Bangla Road about 2/3 way down on the right (headed to the beach) is Soi Sea Dragon. This little alley has all the best Gogo IMO and lots of little beer bars. There are at least five or six gogos to choose from. Just poke into various ones and see what cranks you up. Two years back Harem was the nicest venue and pretty girls but high priced. We had best luck at Diablo. Small club but three hotties we liked. Maybe just lucky. Anyhow just cruise Sea Dragon and see what strikes your fancy.[/QUOTE]Go early and ask if they got promo get that drink and browse them all. Bangla isn't that big so you will be able to sort out. Rock hard is my favourite due to sentimental reasons and has a quite big local which favors viewing the ladies. Even with a bad coyote encounter there last time we had a blast. Don't go crazy with tips or drinks for them it is quite amazing what you can get for 20 thb. If you fancy someone buy them a drink but like I posted earlier if your looking for take out make sure it is on the menu.

I'm going with big group of friend. Should we go all the go go bar and have a look then decide we should end the day?

Hi to all,

In few weeks I'll be in Phuket for a hot weekend, with friends in a villa.

We'd like to book some girls to come directly to our villa.

Do you know some good agencies?

Thanks!

Finally will have 3-4 weeks in Phuket over Christmas.

Mainly have daytime access to Phuket town. Read good things about Katherine's but there seem to be many similar places like Angels a. S. o.

Has anyone tried any other place besides Katherine's? Is there a price quality difference? Katherine's still going at 2-2. 5 K for 90 min?

Will report after my trip.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Lucky88;2394773]Finally will have 3-4 weeks in Phuket over Christmas.

Mainly have daytime access to Phuket town. Read good things about Katherine's but there seem to be many similar places like Angels a. S. o.

Has anyone tried any other place besides Katherine's? Is there a price quality difference? Katherine's still going at 2-2. 5 K for 90 min?

Will report after my trip.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Katherines seems to had some pressure since their page is more generic now. When I browsed the other places same area normally they charge more but it is for 2 hours. Hope someone got more intel.

[QUOTE=Raj1011;2393413]I'm going with big group of friend. Should we go all the go go bar and have a look then decide we should end the day?[/QUOTE]Lineups vary and atmosphere also. But the more places you check there more people will split up.

[QUOTE=Raj1011;2393413]I'm going with big group of friend. Should we go all the go go bar and have a look then decide we should end the day?[/QUOTE]It's free to take a look inside and make a lap. My favorites are Suzy, Harem and Nida's.

Heard of another go go in Patong on a different street. It's on a side street across from the video game place.

It's a shitty location. It's toward the end of the street and it's the only bar on that street. Idk how people know of this place, but there were a few people in there on a weeknight. I counted 15 girls and 2 were def my type. The LD was a bit cheaper at 220 and BF was 1 k with rooms upstairs like Nida. I only had 1 beer and then left.

My friend wanted to go to Tiffany's. I've never liked this place and this time was not different. None of the girls are my type. Only went to accompany my friend.

Plan to check out some other gogos and will update.

Checked out a few go go bars.

Went to nida first, but it was dead at 10. The girls were all just sitting around and there were a lot of them.

Next, made it to Suzy. Still around 10 and the place was packed. The place is much dimmer compared to the last time I was there in March. They have Chang beer for 89 b. I remember it being around 160 in Mar. I guess they might have felt pressured to lower their prices since most of the other go gos are doing cheap beers. The place just had too people and to my surprise the girls here are not better looking than some of the other go gos. I found from an ex-Suzy Wong girl that both harem and SZ are owned by the same person and they are really strict at the girls. While I was there, my Thai friend heard over the mic "#39, why are you not smiling? -100 b" and later heard "girls on stage, when you dance you need to dip it low. " From what I hear there's lots of little deductions on the girls. I guess this is why SZ and harem are so popular. The girls has to put on a happy face and always selling. Some of the girls are making 100 k a month just off LD.

Checked out diablo next. It's their 10th anniversary and all beers are 55 b. Quite a lot of people and girls here. Didn't see any girls that interested me so I left after 1 beer.

Next was miss daisy. Place was completely empty except for 1 table. Made a nap and left. Then went to the lover. Not many people here so girls we're sitting around. Had a beer and left and just called it a night.

Thanks for the update I'm heading out to Patong Dec 25th and was wondering if you had any idea about on the bar fine rates at Suzy and Harems? How much do girls generally charge for ST or LT?

[QUOTE=Macau81;2400034]Checked out a few go go bars.

Went to nida first, but it was dead at 10. The girls were all just sitting around and there were a lot of them.

Next, made it to Suzy. Still around 10 and the place was packed. The place is much dimmer compared to the last time I was there in March. They have Chang beer for 89 b. I remember it being around 160 in Mar. I guess they might have felt pressured to lower their prices since most of the other go gos are doing cheap beers. The place just had too people and to my surprise the girls here are not better looking than some of the other go gos. I found from an ex-Suzy Wong girl that both harem and SZ are owned by the same person and they are really strict at the girls. While I was there, my Thai friend heard over the mic "#39, why are you not smiling? -100 b" and later heard "girls on stage, when you dance you need to dip it low. " From what I hear there's lots of little deductions on the girls. I guess this is why SZ and harem are so popular. The girls has to put on a happy face and always selling. Some of the girls are making 100 k a month just off LD.

Checked out diablo next. It's their 10th anniversary and all beers are 55 b. Quite a lot of people and girls here. Didn't see any girls that interested me so I left after 1 beer.

Next was miss daisy. Place was completely empty except for 1 table. Made a nap and left. Then went to the lover. Not many people here so girls we're sitting around. Had a beer and left and just called it a night.[/QUOTE]

Folks.

I am heading to Phuket in a couple of months and was considering booking the millennium hotel Patong.

Do any of you have an idea if this hotel is girl friendly. It's super ideal location to Bangla road.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

G.

Check my post about prices few pages back.

[QUOTE=JSaint;2400390]Thanks for the update I'm heading out to Patong Dec 25th and was wondering if you had any idea about on the bar fine rates at Suzy and Harems? How much do girls generally charge for ST or LT?[/QUOTE]Book the room for two people. If not sure ask them if they allow guests by email / phone. Personally I always book for two and overall never have any issue.

[QUOTE=Gunners1;2400470]Folks.

I am heading to Phuket in a couple of months and was considering booking the millennium hotel Patong.

Do any of you have an idea if this hotel is girl friendly. It's super ideal location to Bangla road.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

G.[/QUOTE]

I called them up today and the guy in reservations at the millennium hotel said they charge joiner fee of 1500 THB per night per person.

This is in spite of me booking the room for 2 persons.

Well I won't be staying there for sure.

The search continues.

Regards.

G.

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2400568]Check my post about prices few pages back.

Book the room for two people. If not sure ask them if they allow guests by email / phone. Personally I always book for two and overall never have any issue.[/QUOTE]

I was about to reply actually, Gunners, to tell you this but to just call and check as it may have changed. If you'd like a really excellent hotel in Patong which is GF, I highly recommend Indigo. It is Intercon's boutique brand and I have recommended it here previously. Great restaurant on site, coffee club right outside downstairs and the rooms are excellent. Much better than the photos suggest.

I'm a fan of newer hotels, which this is, and you know you are getting some quality when you go with the bigger chains.

[QUOTE=Gunners1;2400820]I called them up today and the guy in reservations at the millennium hotel said they charge joiner fee of 1500 THB per night per person.

This is in spite of me booking the room for 2 persons.

Well I won't be staying there for sure.

The search continues.

Regards.

G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JSaint;2400390]Thanks for the update I'm heading out to Patong Dec 25th and was wondering if you had any idea about on the bar fine rates at Suzy and Harems? How much do girls generally charge for ST or LT?[/QUOTE]From March:

Suzy. Can't be BF until after 2 am. BF2 k, ST 3 k to 5 k. LT??

Harem. BF2 k, ST 3-4 k. LT??

Current:

Diablo BF 1.5 k. ST 2 k.

Goddess BF 1 k.

Nida BF 2 k. ST 2 k-4 k, LT 5 k+.

If you want company, HMU.

Perfect David. Indigo it is. The hotel pics look trendy and modern.

What would I do without my brothers at ISG. Thanks guys.

G.

[QUOTE=DavidRim;2400826]I was about to reply actually, Gunners, to tell you this but to just call and check as it may have changed. If you'd like a really excellent hotel in Patong which is GF, I highly recommend Indigo. It is Intercon's boutique brand and I have recommended it here previously. Great restaurant on site, coffee club right outside downstairs and the rooms are excellent. Much better than the photos suggest.

I'm a fan of newer hotels, which this is, and you know you are getting some quality when you go with the bigger chains.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the rates. Lets meet up. Heading there Dec 26th.

[QUOTE=Macau81;2400917]From March:

Suzy. Can't be BF until after 2 am. BF2 k, ST 3 k to 5 k. LT??

Harem. BF2 k, ST 3-4 k. LT??

Current:

Diablo BF 1.5 k. ST 2 k.

Goddess BF 1 k.

Nida BF 2 k. ST 2 k-4 k, LT 5 k+.

If you want company, HMU.[/QUOTE]

What is BF (boy friend) mean if I can ask a stupid question? Will be in area around the 23rd.

[QUOTE=JSaint;2401113]Thanks for the rates. Lets meet up. Heading there Dec 26th.[/QUOTE]

I have the same situation coming up. Traveling with older friend and I won't be taking her to the guy bars! Thanks for asking the question and will have to check out the hotels mentioned.

G.

[QUOTE=Kiron;2382989]Hello guys,

I'm not sure if this thread is the correct one because its a mix of both and I read 3 years in the past but did not find enough information for my problem.

My situation is that I will travel with a married pal of me to Patong in November. We booked a room together to have more BHT to burn and I bet we will burn some BHT in a good and in a bad way.

So as I mentioned he is married and does not support or is understanding enough to allow me to bring a "girlfriend" back to our room, (even if I did it will cost 1000 BHT Joiner Fee) which I can understand.

My problem is, if I find a good looking Girl and the price for the night is good where do I go with her?

I thought maybe it is possible to do a midnight / early morning check in (11:30 PM-2:30 AM) for example in the Sea Cono or ACCA Hotel or every other clean girlfriendly Hotel until 9 AM, schould be enough time for boom boom.

Is this a good solution for my problem or do I have to rely on the Soi Seadragon Guest Room, which I don't know if it is clean?[/QUOTE]

BF = Bar Fine. The standard amount payable to the bar to take the girl out. Fees for services provided by the girl are negotiated separately.

If you are travelling to Thailand and you are unaware of the BF / Lady Drink / fees protocol, I highly advise you google how it all works. It's simple enough but it really is a tried a tested process which you should know before you arrive. There's no getting around it and knowing in advance will save you time and ensure you have a a smoother and more fun experience.

I have to say I find the BF's in Phuket quite extortionate, which is why I've never taken a bar girl home. I opt for freelancers.

[QUOTE=Goyo61;2402990]What is BF (boy friend) mean if I can ask a stupid question? Will be in area around the 23rd.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DavidRim;2403214]I have to say I find the BF's in Phuket quite extortionate, which is why I've never taken a bar girl home. I opt for freelancers.[/QUOTE]I agree. It's fucking ridiculous. I know most of the girls are not making the bar 2,000 baht a night, but that's the fee to take them out. If a girl wants a day off, she has to BF herself the same price. Also most girls don't get BF until a few hrs into their work where they've prob already been making the bar some $$.

Hi,

Please suggest some girlfriendly hotels or Airbnb near to Bangla road. Hotels with message parlour will be good.

If hotel boys can supply girls that will be great.

Will visit this year end.

[QUOTE=Macau81;2403288]I agree. It's fucking ridiculous. I know most of the girls are not making the bar 2,000 baht a night, but that's the fee to take them out. If a girl wants a day off, she has to BF herself the same price. Also most girls don't get BF until a few hrs into their work where they've prob already been making the bar some $$.[/QUOTE]Yow, thankfully I have not been to Phuket nor Patong beech for many years now. Last visit was with LT GF. Sounds like bars are for tourists only. Many years ago (28 years ago), Phuket Town was quite good for mongering, possibly better than Patong, many young attractive girls in massage joints and brothels, but I have not been back to see the modern situation.

I will answer my own question. I went back to thst strip of bars. Only 3 women I recognize from last year. Two were bosses and won't go with customer. There were probably only about 1/3 or so the number of women overall. Used to be a bit fun though also a bit shabby. Now it seems more depressing. Women don't try to attract you into bar like in past. Many are past prime and seem low energy. Not a fun place now.

It Is the area over by chalong pier.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2390097]I went to a strip of bars by chalong pier last year in phuket. It was kind of a low class place but fun. Do girls stay at places like that long term? I coming back in January will I see a lot of the same women or mostly new? I know no one knows the exact answer but many here know how thailand bars work and can give a probable answer. I have a couple of reviews of the area in my history.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

When to Katherine Phuket town, for my first time visit.

Went unanounced at around 4:30 pm. Place looks a bit dated overall, but OK.

Charged 2,000 baht for one hour. I imagined it would be 90 minutes, but I was on a tight schedule anyway.

Showed me linup of about 10 girls, all doable, at least 3 of them very nice. Picked Nadia as she was most naturally smiling at me.

Went upstairs, her body was better than I expected she was friendly and very accommodating.

Had a shower with some rubbing and BBBJ. Already very nice.

Proceeded to the bed for a quick oil massage, followed by a body slide, BBBJ, 69 - she loved to be licked.

Had sex in all positions, she was very natural and encouraging pushing me on to take her and she was working hard to make me cum in cowgirl!

Very nice experience! Would repeat. Hope to find time.

Pretty much every single hotel in Patong is GF, apart from the more obvious upmarket and family centric hotels / international brands. There's loads of info on the forum. And it is standard for customers to email / call the hotel asking for this info. Look in the Hotels thread. It's difficult to give recommendations if you don't specify a budget.

Massage within hotels usually not offering extras. There's a massage shop every 20 m in Patong, you won't go short.

[QUOTE=JHourHappy;2403371]Hi,

Please suggest some girlfriendly hotels or Airbnb near to Bangla road. Hotels with message parlour will be good.

If hotel boys can supply girls that will be great.

Will visit this year end.[/QUOTE]

Brother's Hotel in Patong is centrally located on Bangla road. Totally girl friendly and lots of freelancers around. Value for money.

[QUOTE=JHourHappy;2403371]Hi,

Please suggest some girlfriendly hotels or Airbnb near to Bangla road. Hotels with message parlour will be good.

If hotel boys can supply girls that will be great.

Will visit this year end.[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

I will be with my girlfriend in Phuket for a few days and I was wondering which places you would recommend for couples (she is bsx) any good bars / swinger clubs / spa to attend? I have just found a website (smooci) to book escorts and nothing else nice.

Thanks for your help!

[QUOTE=Sri5657;2405676]Brother's Hotel in Patong is centrally located on Bangla road. Totally girl friendly and lots of freelancers around. Value for money.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot. Any feedback on Gu hotel? Is it girl friendly. My friend has already booked it.

One of the best go go bars in Thailand at the end of the street near the Patong beach.

[QUOTE=Simpaticam866;2406383]Hi all,

I will be with my girlfriend in Phuket for a few days and I was wondering which places you would recommend for couples (she is bsx) any good bars / swinger clubs / spa to attend? I have just found a website (smooci) to book escorts and nothing else nice.

Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]I am also interested in this.

I have 2 questions on Phuket:

1. Does KatherinS have a website where I can prechoose the girls?

2. What to you ask for in a pharmacy there for Viagra. Any place suggested near Patong for this.

Thanks.

Sorry I mean Christin massage in Patong.

[QUOTE=BangaloreBomb;2408971]I have 2 questions on Phuket:

1. Does KatherinS have a website where I can prechoose the girls?

2. What to you ask for in a pharmacy there for Viagra. Any place suggested near Patong for this.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

My experience asking for Viagra has been to just go into a pharmacy and ask for generic viagra. If the price seems high I go to a couple more and price check. Pharmacies are pretty common and easy to find.

[QUOTE=BangaloreBomb;2408971]I have 2 questions on Phuket:



2. What to you ask for in a pharmacy there for Viagra. Any place suggested near Patong for this.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BangaloreBomb;2408971]
2. What to you ask for in a pharmacy there for Viagra. Any place suggested near Patong for this.
[/QUOTE]Can ask for Kamagra (the original generic) or Sidegra (the Thai generic). Kamagra might be available in jelly or pills. I always used Kamagra pills as easy to break up 100 MG into fragments depending on dose you need, which might depend on the girl, her pussy feel, whether you go BB or not, how many fucks you had today already, on a full or empty stomach, alcohol consumed, how long you want to fuck, etc. In most ideal circumstances might not need any, such as when with GF and totally sober. GF never goes beyond 40 minutes which is a rather short time for me.

Real genuine Viagra should be priced maybe 5 times higher than the generics. So buying that is silly, since hard to be sure its genuine anyway, and pointless. Viagra at a very discount price is almost sure to be fake.

Hi,

I will be visiting Phuket for a couple of days with my GF. Can someone suggest places where we can get couple massage with extras or any other tips for couples?

We will be staying at Patong area.

Thanks!

True. But for a quick 2nd round I will need. If not I need at least 3 hours in between. Hence asking. Keeping it as back up. What dose do you suggest with alcohol and I don't want habg ivers.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2410712]Can ask for Kamagra (the original generic) or Sidegra (the Thai generic). Kamagra might be available in jelly or pills. I always used Kamagra pills as easy to break up 100 MG into fragments depending on dose you need, which might depend on the girl, her pussy feel, whether you go BB or not, how many fucks you had today already, on a full or empty stomach, alcohol consumed, how long you want to fuck, etc. In most ideal circumstances might not need any, such as when with GF and totally sober. GF never goes beyond 40 minutes which is a rather short time for me.

Real genuine Viagra should be priced maybe 5 times higher than the generics. So buying that is silly, since hard to be sure its genuine anyway, and pointless. Viagra at a very discount price is almost sure to be fake.[/QUOTE]

Heard about 2 new gogos that just opened up.

Red infinity. Next to illusion. Beers are expensive here, starting around 180 b. LD 250 and BF 2 k. ST and LT are 3 k and 5 k. The first time I went in all the girls were in bikinis and none of them were mcot except for the mamasan who turned out to be the boss's GF. Boss told me he was getting more girls and showed me some pics of girls with lots of filters. Anyways I did go back a 2nd time and the girls were nude and had some better looking ones.

I just heard of another one that opened by Hollywood. Don't know the name or exactly where it is yet. Will maybe check it out soon.

[QUOTE=Simpaticam866;2406383]Hi all,

I will be with my girlfriend in Phuket for a few days and I was wondering which places you would recommend for couples (she is bsx) any good bars / swinger clubs / spa to attend? I have just found a website (smooci) to book escorts and nothing else nice.

Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Justice4;2407688]I am also interested in this.[/QUOTE]Check with Katherines they sometimes have girls that do couples.

Made it out to harem the other night. Entered through the Suzy Wong entrance and they tried to block me from going to harem. Haha.

I haven't been here in awhile and I'm reminded why everyone loves this place. All the girls are slim and busty (fake boobs) and I noticed some girls in dresses. There are good looking girls in other gogos, but they're mixed in with old and fat chicks. I didn't see any fat or old chicks here.

Checked out diablo with a friend. Beers were 190 and LD 260. Both beers and LD are more expensive than the other go go. By 1 am on a weeknight the place was empty. Don't see a point in coming back here to pay more when the girls aren't better.

BTW, be careful out there. Some of these gogos employ underage girls.

Fellow mongers!

If anyone has been recently to Phuket please throw some light on the overall mongering scenario due to the ongoing virus scare.

1) are freelancers still working? Have their terms and conditions become more lenient?

2) are hotels creating any problems in getting freelancers to the room.

3) are people wearing masks in gogo bars and other related places?

Is the scene same as how it was before the corona scenario or has it lost its charm?

I stopped at a bar close to chalong pier. There were 5 women working at it an no customers on a Saturday night. A couple of the women were okay looking. I stayed there about 40 minutes and bought 1 beer. I tipped 1 woman 100 thb and another 20 thb. The air kind of stank, it had a stagnant bay type smell. I have no idea how these places can make money. 1 woman told me 300 for barfne and pay her whatever I wanted. She said she was 28 but she looked older and wasn't very attractive.

My guess, and it's just a guess, is that whoever owns the space rents it out for very cheap bc it's a bad location. The women stay there for free and get a bit of tips or occasional customer. But really are just barely getting by. They can't be saving any money. I bet they go some nights with no customers.

No real point to this just my random experience and thoughts.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2434278]I stopped at a bar close to chalong pier. There were 5 women working at it an no customers on a Saturday night. A couple of the women were okay looking. I stayed there about 40 minutes and bought 1 beer. I tipped 1 woman 100 thb and another 20 thb. The air kind of stank ...[/QUOTE]Your whole report is consistent with my observations in various parts of Thailand. Many bars with 3-10 ladies and few customers. Most of the women do not look good enough to bar fine, they may go days between making any money. It's a sad economy.

I doubt that saving money is part of these bar girls’ mindsets.

The Thai government has closed the Patong Red light district, Bangla Road, according to this video I found on YouTube. I still see some girls looking for customers. It looks like our world won't be the same and I hope the re-open very soon.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkJkTq4ugWc[/URL]

[QUOTE=MandingoBlack;2436083]The Thai government has closed the Patong Red light district, Bangla Road, according to this video I found on YouTube. I still see some girls looking for customers. It looks like our world won't be the same and I hope the re-open very soon.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkJkTq4ugWc[/URL][/QUOTE]Yep, I caught a few days of fun before the closure but now everywhere is dead as.

However, still plenty of fun to be had. Online options being the strongest.

This was in the news this morning.

[URL]https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/cv19-asia/cv19-thailand/cv19-phuket/phuket-reports-7-new-coronvirus-cases-friday-march-27[/URL]

[QUOTE=CoaxK;2436173]Yep, I caught a few days of fun before the closure but now everywhere is dead as.

However, still plenty of fun to be had. Online options being the strongest.[/QUOTE]What online tools you use?

[QUOTE=RioHeart;2437865]This was in the news this morning.

[URL]https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/cv19-asia/cv19-thailand/cv19-phuket/phuket-reports-7-new-coronvirus-cases-friday-march-27[/URL][/QUOTE]Seems like soi bangla is no-go for sure.

[QUOTE=Gargano19;2438181]Seems like soi bangla is no-go for sure.[/QUOTE]Case number 35 who was with 26 foreigners who they think may be at high risk is pretty scary. She must have been a high end good looking bar girl.

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2438096]What online tools you use?[/QUOTE]Tinder is yielding about 15 x Thai Friendly.

Stick with that.

Soi Bangle is game over. Every bar, etc. On the whole island is. Curfew from 7 pm to 7 am is in place.

Tinder is your friend.

No land or sea access to Island. Only supplies until April 30. You can leave via land or sea but just can't come back. Just announced today airport will close on April 10 until April 30 to all flights. So will be effectively marooned on the Island.

Only restaurants for take away and supermarkets open. But the open restaurants seem to be dwindling. All beaches closed until April 30. Can't even walk on them. Even all private or public pools I. E. Hotels and apartments are closed until further notice.

Not a fun place to be.

Contemplating leaving for Bangkok.

[QUOTE=CoaxK;2438267]Tinder is yielding about 15 x Thai Friendly.

Stick with that.

Soi Bangle is game over. Every bar, etc. On the whole island is. Curfew from 7 pm to 7 am is in place.

Tinder is your friend.[/QUOTE]In Bangkok Thaifriendly is 20 x 1 over Tinder. Seems every city is different.

Can someone please update me for the ST / LT price when we talk about FL from Badoo / Tinder / ThaiFriendly? Been in Pattaya 3 times so far and the last time (one year ago) the price was 1. 2-2 k for ST and 2 to 3 LT. Or at least that I was paying during my 2 week trip.

I read the forum and understood that Phuket is more expensive but what is the actual price tag? Of course there are tons of factors, but what the girls usually expect to get? Again, I'm asking only about girls from Badoo / Tinder / ThaiFriendly, not from bars or MP.

During my first trips around the world I used bars and MP but with the experience I understood that it's much much better to spend time with the FL. Even better. Take her with you when you go to see the tourist places, then go to the hotel for some action, then go to bars and go back to hotel. This is what I'm looking and usually I got it with the FLs from social media. Of course, I do some bars and MPs just for fun and to add variety, but my main targets are FLs. Now during the Corona drama I start to cure the effects from all this lockdown by planning my next trip. And of course, there is no better place than Thailand to do it. Land of smiles. To bring back the smile on our faces.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2439924]Can someone please update me for the ST / LT price when we talk about FL from Badoo / Tinder / ThaiFriendly? Been in Pattaya 3 times so far and the last time (one year ago) the price was 1. 2-2 k for ST and 2 to 3 LT. Or at least that I was paying during my 2 week trip.

I read the forum and understood that Phuket is more expensive but what is the actual price tag? Of course there are tons of factors, but what the girls usually expect to get? Again, I'm asking only about girls from Badoo / Tinder / ThaiFriendly, not from bars or MP.

During my first trips around the world I used bars and MP but with the experience I understood that it's much much better to spend time with the FL. Even better. Take her with you when you go to see the tourist places, then go to the hotel for some action, then go to bars and go back to hotel. This is what I'm looking and usually I got it with the FLs from social media. Of course, I do some bars and MPs just for fun and to add variety, but my main targets are FLs. Now during the Corona drama I start to cure the effects from all this lockdown by planning my next trip. And of course, there is no better place than Thailand to do it. Land of smiles. To bring back the smile on our faces.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I hate to break it to but all pricing before will not apply after Covid-19 is over. Will the girls charge hazard pay? Will the girls be really cheap to attract customers? Ask that question in about 6 months to a year.

Ok then, what was the prices before the Covid? Obviously no one knows when it will finish and what will be the impact on the economy so everything is speculation. I'm just curious what was before the virus.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2440296]Ok then, what was the prices before the Covid? Obviously no one knows when it will finish and what will be the impact on the economy so everything is speculation. I'm just curious what was before the virus.[/QUOTE]All of us mongers should know one testament. Negotiate, negotiate and did I say negotiate?

There is no set in stone prices. Everything depends on you as a buyer. You offer what you think is right price for a perticular girl. Also depends on your requirements of BBBJ, BBS, etc. If you cannot let go of the beauty who does not agree you have a basic issue. A mango on the tree is only good if you can get to it. There will be plenty of mangoes within reach.

With wall to wall girls in world hot spots for mongering I am sure you will find some within your budget and requirements. Do not ever think just because you pay more you are getting mind blowing service. You are not in a restaurant bidding for the best steak.

I have had best sex from average girls and worst sex from beauties.

Brothers, it's getting ridiculous a little bit. Be free to give advices, most of the cases they are helpful. And me and other members will appreciate them. But also please answer the question, if you have the info. I quoted you what was the prices in Pattaya one year ago. Of course they are negotiable, of course it depends of the girl, of course it depends of you and how do you act, speak, look, etc. It depends of a lot more things. But they are frames that the price usually goes. From this to that, with all the exceptions and negotiations. So please, someone that have been in Phuket in the last year, can answer my question? Thank you!

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2440429]Brothers, it's getting ridiculous a little bit. Be free to give advices, most of the cases they are helpful. And me and other members will appreciate them. But also please answer the question, if you have the info. I quoted you what was the prices in Pattaya one year ago. Of course they are negotiable, of course it depends of the girl, of course it depends of you and how do you act, speak, look, etc. It depends of a lot more things. But they are frames that the price usually goes. From this to that, with all the exceptions and negotiations. So please, someone that have been in Phuket in the last year, can answer my question? Thank you![/QUOTE]You haven't heard there is a worldwide pandemic. Go home & stay home so that the world will hopefully get some control over this virus. You shouldn't even be entertaining the thought of trying to meet up with a lady. That's my free advice.

Hi,

I can answer your question without giving you advise how to live, it s so simple. I did some research on tinder and badoo and girls want 4000-5000 baht for LT, 1500-3000 for ST (Patong girls). Unfortunately I didn't find many working girls on apps so you don't have much option these days.

Oh, thank you God, that finally someone answer without telling me how to live my life. RysZardo, thank you for your efforts, really, but sadly I don't think that asking price is the correct approach. Based on my experience traveling the world (rich if I may say so), when you ask you show that you have no idea and usually the girls take advantage and tell you a lot more, somethimes ridiculous more. For example in Bangkok when ask they tell 4000-6000. When I just tell them lets meet, 2000 is it ok for you, the answer is usually Yes. Same in Africa from where I just came back. You ask and you got the $100-200 answer. You don't ask, just offer $50 and they are more than happy to agree.

So that was my request for help from brothers that have actual experience in Phuket, when speaking about Tinder or Badoo or ThaiFriendly. Instead I got some useless advices how to live my life that are not related with my question. Which makes me think that these are from people that have no idea what is the answer but that doesn't stopped them to try to give answers. Any kind of answers. Speaking about that, Yellitg your answer is pretty much useless. I'm not plannig my trip for next week or next month. Again, I'm making plans after the Corona situation and when things goes back to normal? When. Nobody knows. What will be the economic situation. Again, nobody knows. Will I'll felt victim of it. I have no idea. My simple question. What was before, not what will be after.

So again, if someone actually have used Tinder and Baddoo and have real experience, please can you quote me what he paid for the girls time. If you don't have anything to answer, just don't. People usually are visiting the forum to get information or to share field reports. Then you got 2-3 pages of useless discussion that can annoy normal people. And sadly I am playing part of it. So please. Answers from people that have real experience. If you have advice how to live my life or how stupid I am, you can always send it to me on PM so we can not annoy other people with our useless posts. Thank you!

[QUOTE=RysZardo;2440764]Hi,

I can answer your question without giving you advise how to live, it s so simple. I did some research on tinder and badoo and girls want 4000-5000 baht for LT, 1500-3000 for ST (Patong girls). Unfortunately I didn't find many working girls on apps so you don't have much option these days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2440982]Oh, thank you God, that finally someone answer without telling me how to live my life. RysZardo, thank you for your efforts, really, but sadly I don't think that asking price is the correct approach. Based on my experience traveling the world (rich if I may say so), when you ask you show that you have no idea and usually the girls take advantage and tell you a lot more, somethimes ridiculous more. For example in Bangkok when ask they tell 4000-6000. When I just tell them lets meet, 2000 is it ok for you, the answer is usually Yes. Same in Africa from where I just came back. You ask and you got the $100-200 answer. You don't ask, just offer $50 and they are more than happy to agree. [/QUOTE]Your guesstimate of costs is just about right, Anywhere between 1,000 and 2,000 will get you a full service ST from just about any girl working in Phuket. Add an extra 1,000 for LT and you will be about right. In my opinion paying bar fines on Bangla is simply not worth it. Firstly, the girls are paid well (15,000 per month) and they earn 100 per ladydrink and average 6-10 drinks per night. Do the math and you can see it is not really worth it to them to be bar fined by you. They can lose pay if bar fined too early so the girls will just jack up the asking price or simply prefer to stay with their friends and keep the boss happy. That said, most bar girls / gogo dancers will visit one of the big disco bars (Thai Pan etc. After the gogo closes). There you will find a real cracker for around 1500 with no bar fine. The issue here is that these bar girls are often tired and want to get the the job done and home for some chicken rice ASAP. Best bet is to find an enthusiastic FL at this time of night.

Best options can be FL during the day and through until midnight. Find them on Tinder and Thai Friendly or collect some numbers the night before. Many, Many gorgeous girls available. State you price and go to their place. Most are happy to do this and will simply send you a pindrop agreeing your price without question. No hassle for them keeps the price nice and low. And they are unrushed and generous with their time. This will also improve your Patong directional skills.

Massage girls are often great value and great fun. Whatever you read elsewhere here, I can assure you almost every single AMP in Patong has girls that are very happy to provide FS. Never usually more than 1,000 - 1,500. Hint, try an early morning tour around 10.30 and you will see many crackers looking for that first fuck of the day and willing to keep the price reasonable. Most of the youngest and hottest Massage girls I have visited were found this way. All the girls rotate for that morning shift so you will see a different crop every day to choose from.

I have taken to offering girls (whether Massage, bar, gogo or FL) 1,000 cash upon arrival with another 1,000 (usually two 500's) set to one side as an extra tip if they blow my mind. The sight of 2,000 available is a great incentive and the girls will mostly give you a truly amazing performance to earn it all.

Most girls do not like aggressive negotiators and truly despise drunken ferrangs who maul them. The best way to get the best price and best service from girls in Phuket is to be polite, be clean, be sober (ish) and treat them with respect. It works wonders.

Corona update. Most Patong girls went home and will not return for a couple of months. Those that remain are very short of cash and have no way of leaving. Many offering FS for as low as 500. But have a heart, these girls have kids to feed (mostly) and corona hit the region after a very weak tourist season. Pay the rates above and you will receive a wonderful service at a very reasonable price.

Happy Hunting!

Being my first trip to Asia I was a little concerned since I speak zero Thai. I'm usually found mongering around South America and my favorite all time spot Medellin, Colombia. I could probably write a book about this trip but will try to keep this brief.

I just a month in Thailand and just got back 4 weeks ago just before the shit hit the fan. It was nice being on the over seas flights that were ¼ full and having a whole row to myself. Even though it was high season it was not very crowded due to a major Country that was on lock down at the time.

Note: Any hotels mentioned are Girl Friendly unless noted otherwise.

Bangkok: 5 Days.

I stayed at Nana Entertainment district at the esteemed Nana Hotel. While this hotel is a little rough around the edges location wise it does not get much better. Just walk out the Hotel and there will be hundreds of streetwalkers to choose from. Beware things are not always what they appear to be, some of the hot ones are Ladyboys and sometimes difficult to tell the difference between the real thing. There were a few that I was hitting on that I couldn't tell until they started talking.

There are hundreds of beer bars within walking distance and you can even walk down to Therme with a 20 minute walk. One day I decided to check out the famous Wood Bar which is a place that only does blow jobs. Wood bar was pretty cool but I thought that for 1500 B it was way overpriced. Hell I could get nice hooker full service for a hour and a half for what that place charges.

One evening I walked down to Therme Bar and was impressed to see so many beautiful Asian girls lined up all the way around the perimeter of the bar. I felt a little out of place in Therme since out of a couple of hundred people I was the only Westerner, plus I speak zero Thai. Therme was packed so not much room to move around and forget trying to get a seat or table. After a bit I headed back to Nana Hotel and saw a cute tiny Thai girl hanging outside. I asked her how much for short time and she said 1500 B, I felt this was reasonable so we headed up to my room. So she takes her clothes off and I think Damn this chick is tiny, how in the hell is she going to take my dick in. Well, amazingly enough she accomplished the task. She spoke pretty good English which was great and found out that she was 30, I'll tell you what she didn't look a day over 20.

There are lots of massage places at Nana, a few legit ones, semi legit, full service and rip off. So yeah there is something for everybody. I found it was best to walk 5 or 6 blocks away from Nana, find a legit place with a girl interested in getting a nice tip. I will generally tip 500 B on a happy ending. I went to one not legit place and 10 minutes into the massage she had me flip and ask if I wanted extra. I asked her how much and she said 1500 B, I said now way and had to haggle her down to 500 B tip. The whole ordeal was lackluster to say the least.

Bangkok was fun and a great place to monger around, lots of hot women and the prices are great too!

Samui Island 9 Days (Koh Samui) I spent 9 days here just to take it easy and chill out on the beach. When I was there, I hadn't signed up for Thai Friendly yet so I had to find my girls the old-fashioned way. I spent 4 days at the Ark Bar Chaweng Beach (not very impressed and I saw some signs mention charges for Joiner Fees).

Ark Bar also shook me down on checkout for damages they said that I did that were already there when I moved into the room. I would recommend finding another hotel or resort. On Samui I did the massage parlors and enjoyed the beach life. I spent 5 nights in Lamai Beach and stayed at Al's Resort which I liked. They are girl friendly and around a 15-minute walk into town. I had one of the massage girls come visit me 2000 B for the whole night.

Phuket: 6 Days In Phuket (Patong Beach) I signed up for Thai Friendly and was able to keep a nice stream of girls coming in just from that. The prices for short time were usually 1500-2000 baht and the long time were 3000. It appeared that 75% of the girls on Thai Friendly Phuket were working girls and I even found some of the massage girls with listings. One of the things that I would do after finding out they were a massage girl was to schedule a massage with them and then had the ability to check them out before diving into the good stuff. Places to stay Coconut Village Resort and Summer Breeze Hotel. Summer Breeze is a cool place to stay because the owners speak English and a lot of English-speaking guys fellow mongers hang out there. I liked Phuket a lot, it is pussy heaven!

Chiang Mai 5 Days Chiang Mai a slightly different than Bangkok and Phuket on Thai Friendly. It seemed that everything was flipped the other way around with 70% of the girls being non-pro and 30% working girls. Then there are also the regular girls trying to make a little extra money for rent. I noticed one girl lived somewhere else and would line up some guys and fly in for a few days. Flights can be pretty cheap between Bangkok and Chiang Mai $30 but watch the 50 lb over weight bag $90 LOL.

Bangkok 1 Day Back in Bangkok for 1 night before flying back. I made a date with a girl (Thai Friendly) that had been giving me a hard time a few weeks before about paying girls for sex. The mentioned money so I asked her how much? She said 3000 B, she was hot so I said fine. We went out to a nice dinner and came back to my room afterwards for long time. I think she was new to this because she was laying on the bed fully clothed and I was struggling to get her clothes off. She seemed a little uptight so I went down on her for around 10 minutes and then she was really into it, deep French kiss, BBBJ, Bareback, yeah nice time.

This is getting crazy long so signing out.

[QUOTE=Mongo1;2442898]Being my first trip to Asia I was a little concerned since I speak zero Thai. I'm usually found mongering around South America and my favorite all time spot Medellin, Colombia. I could probably write a book about this trip but will try to keep this brief.

I just a month in Thailand and just got back 4 weeks ago just before the shit hit the fan. It was nice being on the over seas flights that were full and having a whole row to myself. Even though it was high season it was not very crowded.....[/QUOTE]Wow. Thanks for the great report. So much of ISG has degenerated to Covid speculation that it's no longer a target rich environment for fun reading. So thanks for posting something worth reading. And I really appreciate the smattering Of info about some of the less visited areas. It is interesting too to hear your Thai Friendly experiences. I love the spectacle so will probably stick to the clubs but good to know it's a reliable option.

Fellow Thai afficianado Lew Ashby has been singing the praises of Medellin as well and I am convinced it's in the top 5 worldwide for sure. I really have to try to get there. Thanks again!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2443069]Wow. Thanks for the great report. So much of ISG has degenerated to Covid speculation that it's no longer a target rich environment for fun reading. So thanks for posting something worth reading. And I really appreciate the smattering Of info about some of the less visited areas. It is interesting too to hear your Thai Friendly experiences. I love the spectacle so will probably stick to the clubs but good to know it's a reliable option.

Fellow Thai afficianado Lew Ashby has been singing the praises of Medellin as well and I am convinced it's in the top 5 worldwide for sure. I really have to try to get there. Thanks again![/QUOTE]In the 30 days that I was in Thailand I did not pull 1 bar girl. I just could not get past the high prices and the associated bar fines. I did buy 1 lady drink in 1 beer bar and played some kind of bingo checkers thing. The girl got a shot of tequila for around 160 B and mamasan came by 5 minutes later asking if I was going to get her another one. I high tailed it out of that place. When your on a 30 day trip freelancers are a lot more economical.

[QUOTE=Mongo1;2442898][/QUOTE]I agree with Steve 9696: good to read a mongering report with no reference to the virus. And it sounds like it hasn't hit Thailand's mongering much though you don't say the dates of your trip.

I found Therme the same as you and I can tell you its not that easy to get some of the girls to go out with non-Chinese (who they believe are big money spenders). I saw one stunner there and propositioned her. She barely spoke English and her friend said she preferred Chinese guys. Typical as she was easily my top pick. Others were more willing but didn't look as good and I ended up picking up a girl in Hilary 2 on Soi 4.

I like Samui. For me, more relaxed that Phuket which I considered quite down market and seedy. Bangla is the equivalent of Walking Street in Pattaya (which I found equally unattractive). Phuket is a great island. Outside of Patong! I accept for mongering it is the centre but there are so many other options.

Was really interested in your trip to Chang Mai. I've never been but want to go. From Bangkok Pattaya / Hua Hin or even Krabi would probably have been easier.

For not much more you could have gone to Phnom Penh. Really interesting and lots of options.

Great reporting. A treat to read in these difficult times. Would be interested to know, given your comments on a scale of ten, how your parts of Thailand trip score against Medelin.

Thanks for the report, Mongo1.

You stated, "Wood bar was pretty cool but I thought that for 1500 be it was way overpriced."

I had not heard that Wood Bar (Bangkok), formerly Dr. BJ's Salon, raised their prices for basic BJ from 700 - 1,000 baht to 1,500 baht. That is quite high unless there is some major upgrade in the girls, quality of service and environment since I last partook in that venue a couple of years ago.

Also, unless they have made another change in their business model, Wood Bar as well as most other BJ Bars in that part of lower Sukhumvit offer Full Service and not "only BJ."

The price for FS (or whatever else the girl agrees to do) in a larger room with a bed, often a private toilet, shower and considerably more time with the girl was generally around 1,700 baht in places like Wood Bar, Kasalong Bar, L0litas, etc. Which makes that 1,500 baht charge just for a BJ in one of Wood Bar's typical BJ cubicles even more surprising to me.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2443264]Thanks for the report, Mongo1.

You stated, "Wood bar was pretty cool but I thought that for 1500 be it was way overpriced."

I had not heard that Wood Bar (Bangkok), formerly Dr. BJ's Salon, raised their prices for basic BJ from 700 - 1,000 baht to 1,500 baht. That is quite high unless there is some major upgrade in the girls, quality of service and environment since I last partook in that venue a couple of years ago.
[/QUOTE]Getting off track for Phuket, but I'm too lazy to move this to the Bangkok section.

Those BJ bars are still about 700-900 baht for BJ. I've only seen BJ booths at Kasalong and Lolita's, no bigger rooms. At least some of the BJ bars near Wood have separate larger rooms with a filthy bed and crappy private shower and toilet. They typically charge about 1500 baht for a package deal (mutual shower, brief massage, BJ, sex, and another shower). Most of the girls in those places do not look good enough to fuck, but a few do (very few).

If I had only 1500 baht to spend for sex in Bangkok, I would spend it on a freelancer. I do not recommend BJ bars for sex.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2443293]Getting off track for Phuket, but I'm too lazy to move this to the Bangkok section.

Those BJ bars are still about 700-900 baht for BJ. I've only seen BJ booths at Kasalong and Lolita's, no bigger rooms. At least some of the BJ bars near Wood have separate larger rooms with a filthy bed and crappy private shower and toilet. They typically charge about 1500 baht for a package deal (mutual shower, brief massage, BJ, sex, and another shower). Most of the girls in those places do not look good enough to fuck, but a few do (very few).

If I had only 1500 baht to spend for sex in Bangkok, I would spend it on a freelancer. I do not recommend BJ bars for sex.[/QUOTE]Unless they closed off the private rooms in Kasalong Bar and L0litas in the past year or so, they definitely have short time rooms with bed, private toilet and shower. I only used those rooms for my visits to those places in the past few years. 1,700 baht all in was the usual rate for at least an hour with the girl.

Maybe that has all changed in the past 1-2 years, don't know.

Believe it or not, up until about 2 years ago there were some (maybe 5-6 girls between the 2 bars) above average looking girls in those two bars worth spending that amount of money on to fuck. Particularly the day shift at Kasalong Bar.

And I mean above average compared with many go-go bars and Thermae.

I was in Phuket for the first time about 1. 5 months ago (mid March) and used the toilet at Tiger club and Harem. There was a bathroom person in both places that insisted in receiving a tip. So I gave them a small tip. Is this something you can walk past or is it common practice to tip? If so what's a reasonable tip? I think I gave 20-50 b.

Also, some of the public toilets you have to pay to use. I was surprised to see that.

[QUOTE=Kpower;2446947]I was in Phuket for the first time about 1. 5 months ago (mid March) and used the toilet at Tiger club and Harem. There was a bathroom person in both places that insisted in receiving a tip. So I gave them a small tip. Is this something you can walk past or is it common practice to tip? If so what's a reasonable tip? I think I gave 20-50 b.

Also, some of the public toilets you have to pay to use. I was surprised to see that.[/QUOTE]20-50 baht in Thailand is a huge tip. I can't imagine tipping that much to a bathroom attendant. If a bar owned bathroom was beautifully maintained, I might tip 5 or 10 baht.

A small (5 baht) toilet fee is common in some areas and you pay upon entry. I always keep a few coins in my pocket for that purpose.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2447082]20-50 baht in Thailand is a huge tip. I can't imagine tipping that much to a bathroom attendant. If a bar owned bathroom was beautifully maintained, I might tip 5 or 10 baht.

A small (5 baht) toilet fee is common in some areas and you pay upon entry. I always keep a few coins in my pocket for that purpose.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! I'll keep that in mind next time I'm there.

Massage joints in Rawai look to be back in biz. Got a nice massage with he. What's the scene elsewhere? I was expecting a ton of girls on Tinder looking for quick money but haven't seen such behavior. Mayne they all went home, or am I looking in the wrong place?

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2447082]20-50 baht in Thailand is a huge tip. I can't imagine tipping that much to a bathroom attendant. If a bar owned bathroom was beautifully maintained, I might tip 5 or 10 baht.

A small (5 baht) toilet fee is common in some areas and you pay upon entry. I always keep a few coins in my pocket for that purpose.[/QUOTE]I once had a US 20 in my wallet and was pretty intoxicated. I gave the old lady at WhatsUp club the $20 thinking it was 20 baht. All she does is hand out reused small towels to dry your hands. Funny thing is that I normally give her 20 baht tip. This time I made a mistake and did not discover it until morning. She didn't even hesitate to alert me of my mistake. Don't trust some them when it comes to money.

I took a regular gal of mine to a curtain hotel a few weeks ago. A first for me. When the attendant came to collect the fee for our VIP room (indoor bath, secluded patio shower), I let him keep the change from a 1,000 note for the 700 b room because I knew that I was about to get laid for "free", and I appreciated the efficient and discreet service these guys offer.

He brought a couple of extra bottles of water that were very much appreciated.

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2458125]I once had a US 20 in my wallet and was pretty intoxicated. I gave the old lady at WhatsUp club the $20 thinking it was 20 baht. All she does is hand out reused small towels to dry your hands. Funny thing is that I normally give her 20 baht tip. This time I made a mistake and did not discover it until morning. She didn't even hesitate to alert me of my mistake. Don't trust some them when it comes to money.[/QUOTE]

A few of the go go bars have opened back up.

I heard LD 190 and BF 800 at diablo. Idk the rest.

Is Phuket better or Pattaya better as a adult playground?

[QUOTE=BJtemp;2471380]Is Phuket better or Pattaya better as a adult playground?[/QUOTE]There is no comparison. Pattaya is much better than Phuket as an adult playground. If the main purpose of a trip is finding girls, go to Pattaya.

[QUOTE=BJtemp;2471380]Is Phuket better or Pattaya better as a adult playground?[/QUOTE]Swings and roundabouts really.

YMMV but I prefer Pattaya.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVeBOy9j2kA[/URL]

Nothing is open for business.

[QUOTE=Berrys66;2491939][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVeBOy9j2kA[/URL]

Nothing is open for business.[/QUOTE]Whether things are open or not isn't much of a issue when you cannot enter Thailand as a tourist seems to me like putting the cart before the horse, and if you already are in Thailand you should have a whole black book of contacts that you wouldn't need bars.

[QUOTE=Berrys66;2491939][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVeBOy9j2kA[/URL]

Nothing is open for business.[/QUOTE]Last week a friend of mine traveled to Phuket looking for work. Of course, she didn't find anything. Our video chats made the place look even more deserted than the linked video. The west end of Patong road at the police box was void of people at sunset. Many of the family owned villas and hotels have changed owners, their sights are set on reopening in December or January. Perhaps a few will reopen by then. My guess is we still have another 6 months before effective vaccines are widely distributed, 8 months before Thailand opens without harsh restrictions, and 12 months before many foreign tourists return to the Thailand resort areas.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2492047]Last week a friend of mine traveled to Phuket looking for work. Of course, she didn't find anything. Our video chats made the place look even more deserted than the linked video. The west end of Patong road at the police box was void of people at sunset. Many of the family owned villas and hotels have changed owners, their sights are set on reopening in December or January. Perhaps a few will reopen by then. My guess is we still have another 6 months before effective vaccines are widely distributed, 8 months before Thailand opens without harsh restrictions, and 12 months before many foreign tourists return to the Thailand resort areas.[/QUOTE]By then most airlines will be a shell of their former self with few staff and planes flying so it will take time to ramp up flights with rare pilots with flying hours available and staff sacked yrs back.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2440304]All of us mongers should know one testament. Negotiate, negotiate and did I say negotiate?

I have had best sex from average girls and worst sex from beauties.[/QUOTE]I only try young, no kid, tiny and slim beauties because is raises the experience tremendously. Great sex with a piglet or a big girl to me is an oxymoron, for her beauty makes it all worthwhile. Better spend a little more and enjoy big time.

[QUOTE=Macau81;2400034] I found from an ex-Suzy Wong girl that both harem and SZ are owned by the same person and they are really strict at the girls. While I was there, my Thai friend heard over the mic "#39, why are you not smiling? -100 b" and later heard "girls on stage, when you dance you need to dip it low. " From what I hear there's lots of little deductions on the girls. I guess this is why SZ and harem are so popular. The girls has to put on a happy face and always selling..[/QUOTE]That is called good management. The girls should make an effort.

I'm the opposite. Pretty enough is pretty enough. So long as the woman has a fun personality and isn't ugly I'm happy. I'm almost 60 and tend to gravitate to 30 year old bar girls. I want someone I can play games with in the bar for a couple hours. If that's fun and she can make me happy doing that, I usually have a good time back at the hotel.

Different strokes for different folks. .

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2499070]I only try young, no kid, tiny and slim beauties because is raises the experience tremendously. Great sex with a piglet or a big girl to me is an oxymoron, for her beauty makes it all worthwhile. Better spend a little more and enjoy big time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2499070]I only try young, no kid, tiny and slim beauties because is raises the experience tremendously. Great sex with a piglet or a big girl to me is an oxymoron, for her beauty makes it all worthwhile. Better spend a little more and enjoy big time.[/QUOTE]I rarely do a big one. But the top 10 sexual adventures I have had have been with 30+ 7's and 2 bigger girls who literally fucked like I had the last working penis on the planet and they needed cock to cash a winning lotto ticket, OMG that was surprisingly good.

My bottom 5 experiences with been with tiny TOO tight 20's somethings.

Like the fellow said you need a connection for good sex and I agree, the fully pro face to the side experience is a non starter with me!

PP.

[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;2509488]I rarely do a big one. But the top 10 sexual adventures I have had have been with 30+ 7's and 2 bigger girls who literally fucked like I had the last working penis on the planet and they needed cock to cash a winning lotto ticket, OMG that was surprisingly good.

My bottom 5 experiences with been with tiny TOO tight 20's somethings.

Like the fellow said you need a connection for good sex and I agree, the fully pro face to the side experience is a non starter with me!

PP.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. My best sexual experiences have been with P4P ladies in their 30's. My younger P4P ladies were great to look at, but they weren't so great in bed.

Looks are important for me too. But I continue to see the woman's beauty, even as she ages. A hot woman remains hot for me, as long as she remains in good health and takes reasonable care of herself. And some big women can be hot too, when they have big natural tits.

I think good sex with a partner is like good dancing with a partner. You adjust to the lady, and she adjusts to you. It takes some learning and experience for ladies to understand this and become good at it. And that's why older ladies are usually better at it.

But this isn't necessarily age related. I've been with a relatively inexperienced woman in her 30's, and she wasn't that good in bed. And I've been with some younger chicks, who were pretty good at taking hard dicks. The lady's experience and her willingness to learn from it is what counts, when her cocky guy mounts. Experience and learning from it is age related, but it's not perfectly correlated.

Because if the lady starts young and gets lots of experience right away, then she can become really good at it, while she is still young. And you can often see this in porn. Many ladies in porn start out when they are 18,19, or 20. At first they do ordinary kind of sex scenes. Pussy only, and maybe only one guy. But after a year or two, they often start doing anal too. And before you know, the lady takes on two guys for a DP plow. The lady might be still in her early 20's, when she becomes a full-blown porn-star, and she becomes just as as good as many other porn-stars, who are older than she is.

I think it's also okay for a guy to like younger, less experienced ladies too. This isn't my thing. But these young ladies need to get some experience with guys who like them. Or else, these ladies won't be very experienced, when they get older, and they won't be that good in bed.

When I'm enjoying it with older ladies, then I recognize the contributions of other guys who have provided these ladies with their experience in their younger age. So, there is a place for both kind of guys, those who like younger women and those who like older women.

Hello mongers,

Has anyone been visiting Suzie's? OMG the women are seriously gorgeous. I ask since I'm away from Phuket in Berlin and really can't partake. Thankfully they have a live stream every evening from 9 to 12 and that is something that I have gotten used to. Women like BEE and plug and of course PANG! They tend to grow on you the more you watch them. I would love to have feedback from the group if anyone has had an experience with them since I am looking to get onto the 14 + days quarantine etc and visit them.

Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=SoberWorld;2515383]Hello mongers,

Has anyone been visiting Suzie's? OMG the women are seriously gorgeous. I ask since I'm away from Phuket in Berlin and really can't partake. Thankfully they have a live stream every evening from 9 to 12 and that is something that I have gotten used to. Women like BEE and plug and of course PANG! They tend to grow on you the more you watch them.[/QUOTE]Are you saying that Suzy Wong Phuket is actually open? Or, are there just a few girls who are doing live video streaming from the bar?

I ask because one of my favorites from March was a Suzy Wong girl who has been in Isaan for months. I have almost daily contact with her and she has said nothing about Suzy Wong being open.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2515517]Are you saying that Suzy Wong Phuket is actually open?.[/QUOTE]Oh it's definitely open and has been for close to. 2 months of not more. In fact on many an occasion I've come across guests how jump into. The live stream as well on their way into the bar. Just last week they had some American dude who's popular on the local fight / comedy scene and had the girls get into some Indian wrestling which was fun to watch.

Head over to their Facebook page and ubcam find their videos there. The live stream gets close to 2 k viewers per day and a few buy them drinks at 220 bhat. Paid via PayPal. All legit since I have been buying a few of the women I know drinks.

Just a bit of fun when you can't physically be there with them.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=SoberWorld;2515541]Head over to their Facebook page and ubcam find their videos there. The live stream gets close to 2 k viewers per day and a few buy them drinks at 220 bhat. Paid via PayPal. All legit since I have been buying a few of the women I know drinks.[/QUOTE]Add Suzie Wong Phuket to the list of bars I will never visit. Webcams in gogo bars. Shameful.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2515608] Webcams in gogo bars. Shameful.[/QUOTE]Hey there's nothing shameful about it. They are being innovative and creative in today's day and age. Everyone's talking about how the pandemic is creating the need for innovation. And here is a good example of innovation.

For me, this gives me an opportunity to support a few of them who have gone back to work to make some kind of money. And FYI some of the girls really love their job and find this opportunity great to connect with fans. Look at them use terms like she's working ka (meaning of course she's fucking a customer) or I'm going to work ka. (Again you know what that means) so they don't find it shameful so why should you.

To each his own I guess. I love it and hope the others also take note and try something new to keep business alive.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2515517]Are you saying that Suzy Wong Phuket is actually open? Or, are there just a few girls who are doing live video streaming from the bar?

I ask because one of my favorites from March was a Suzy Wong girl who has been in Isaan for months. I have almost daily contact with her and she has said nothing about Suzy Wong being open.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SoberWorld;2515541]Oh it's definitely open and has been for close to. 2 months of not more. In fact on many an occasion I've come across guests how jump into. The live stream as well on their way into the bar.[/QUOTE]The videos look interesting, but today I got a different side of the story from my Suzy Wong girl. She said "no money in Phuket. " I mentioned the videos and she said "You want me do that?" It is clear that she didn't want to be seen by the whole world as a Suzy Wong girl. Perhaps she wants her family and village to continue believing her cover story of working in a resort.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;2509700]I think good sex with a partner is like good dancing with a partner. You adjust to the lady, and she adjusts to you. It takes some learning and experience for ladies to understand this and become good at it. And that's why older ladies are usually better at it.

But this isn't necessarily age related. I've been with a relatively inexperienced woman in her 30's, and she wasn't that good in bed. And I've been with some younger chicks, who were pretty good at taking hard dicks. The lady's experience and her willingness to learn from it is what counts, when her cocky guy mounts. Experience and learning from it is age related, but it's not perfectly correlated.

Because if the lady starts young and gets lots of experience right away, then she can become really good at it, while she is still young. And you can often see this in porn. Many ladies in porn start out when they are 18,19, or 20. At first they do ordinary kind of sex scenes. Pussy only, and maybe only one guy. But after a year or two, they often start doing anal too. And before you know, the lady takes on two guys for a DP plow. The lady might be still in her early 20's, when she becomes a full-blown porn-star, and she becomes just as as good as many other porn-stars, who are older than she is.

I think it's also okay for a guy to like younger, less experienced ladies too. This isn't my thing. But these young ladies need to get some experience with guys who like them. Or else, these ladies won't be very experienced, when they get older, and they won't be that good in bed.

When I'm enjoying it with older ladies, then I recognize the contributions of other guys who have provided these ladies with their experience in their younger age. So, there is a place for both kind of guys, those who like younger women and those who like older women.[/QUOTE]Well said. Couldn't add more to this POV so just replied in gratitude.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;2509700]At first they do ordinary kind of sex scenes. Pussy only, and maybe only one guy. But after a year or two, they often start doing anal too. And before you know, the lady takes on two guys for a DP plow... When I'm enjoying it with older ladies, then I recognize the contributions of other guys who have provided these ladies with their experience in their younger age. [/QUOTE]Well said. When it comes to PFP ladies, we need to appreciate all the cocks that have been their before us. They made an indispensable contribution to her skill set. It's especially apparent with BJs, it takes a fair bit of experience with a variety of cocks for a lady to learn to do it well, rather than just dipping it in her mouth.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2516033]Well said. When it comes to PFP ladies, we need to appreciate all the cocks that have been their before us. They made an indispensable contribution to her skill set. It's especially apparent with BJs, it takes a fair bit of experience with a variety of cocks for a lady to learn to do it well, rather than just dipping it in her mouth.[/QUOTE]Sadly, this is not always the case. Some girls just aren't into it and however-many cocks she's seen / sucked / taken-in, skills are still as lousy as her first days of P4 P.

We live in an era where a girl could become a superstar very quickly, with all the forums / boards reviews, so all girls should try and give great service and be rewarded with more money, but that comes with a very high burnout situation and girls get tired / bored after getting 5 10 clients / day.

In P4 P, I think it's a little more complicated than it looks.

You have a bad experience with a girl. Do you repeat and expect her to be better? After all, she knows you and could be more comfortable, seeing you could be a regular.

But if you're a regular, a real regular, don't the girls want to be treated like a GF? Saying they're sad / tired so you go easy?

I cannot imagine what these girls go though day-in / day-out, but my guess is that the more cocks they take-in, the more jaded / tired they become. I still love the excitement before a session, not knowing if you're going to be disappointed / happy / blown away.

After RTF reading this forum since 2017 to the present it is evident there is a wealth of info here from all the excellent contributions. Having often visited and been mainly focused on Bangkok, I never had much interest in Phuket and never realized until now that it has had a thumping RLD Red Light District on and in the vicinity of BR Bangla Road, which includes gogos, beer bars, MPs, nightclubs and streetwalkers. The latter is sort of my specialty and primary area of interest, so I'll briefly comment on that as it pertains to BR.

After watching many youtube videos of BR back as far as 2017, in addition to RTF, it is evident that historically there have been PFP pay for play ladies working there on the street, in other words, streetwalkers, henceforth referred to as SWs, seeking to pick up customers for ST short time or LT long time engagements. Not only have there evidently been Thai lady SWs, but reports allege to sightings of Russian and African females also. Though in the video of the Africans they were sitting on stools, of some venue I assume, by the edge of the road, so not technically SWs, perhaps, since they were not walking, standing or sitting etc on the street. Call them freelancers, if you like.

Overall the lady SW scene in Phuket doesn't seem to have been as high in numbers or quality, and perhaps less economical, as compared to SWs around the Nana BTS station vicinity of Bangkok, from the Nana Hotel to Soi Cowboy, or even the Pattaya Beach Road area. Though once Thailand becomes more tourist friendly again, the BR scene certainly looks like a worthwhile number three option for SWs in the LOS land of smiles and worth investigating more fully with feet on the ground. Purely for research purposes, of course. LOL. We all have to do our little bit to boost the economy and help the struggling poor in Asia. Cheers.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;2537730]After RTF reading this forum since 2017 to the present it is evident there is a wealth of info here from all the excellent contributions. Having often visited and been mainly focused on Bangkok, I never had much interest in Phuket and never realized until now that it has had a thumping RLD Red Light District on and in the vicinity of BR Bangla Road, which includes gogos, beer bars, MPs, nightclubs and streetwalkers. The latter is sort of my specialty and primary area of interest, so I'll briefly comment on that as it pertains to BR..[/QUOTE]I have been to BKK once. I have traveled to many countries, for me BKK has the most beautiful girls. Unfortunately I was with a GF at the time and was unable to monger.

On the other hand, I've been to Phuket 3 x after I broke up with the GF and mongered quite a bit! Though there may be more beauties in BKK than Phuket, I prefer Phuket because of the beautiful beaches whereas BKK is noisy and crowded.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2538338]I have been to BKK once. I have traveled to many countries, for me BKK has the most beautiful girls. Unfortunately I was with a GF at the time and was unable to monger.

On the other hand, I've been to Phuket 3 x after I broke up with the GF and mongered quite a bit! Though there may be more beauties in BKK than Phuket, I prefer Phuket because of the beautiful beaches whereas BKK is noisy and crowded.[/QUOTE]There are only a few BKK P4P girls that can match the hotties you see with your GF at places like BTS/MRT and the malls. Comparing BKK go-go girls (Nana and Cowboy) to the Phuket go-go girls (Bangla Road), the Bangla Road girls are hotter to my eye (and slightly more expensive).

If you enjoy the Phuket beaches, that's perfect for you because you don't lose anything in terms of P4P girl hotness.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;2537730]After RTF reading this forum since 2017 to the present it is evident there is a wealth of info here from all the excellent contributions. Having often visited and been mainly focused on Bangkok, I never had much interest in Phuket and never realized until now that it has had a thumping RLD Red Light District on and in the vicinity of BR Bangla Road, which includes gogos, beer bars, MPs, nightclubs and streetwalkers. The latter is sort of my specialty and primary area of interest, so I'll briefly comment on that as it pertains to BR.

After watching many youtube videos of BR back as far as 2017, in addition to RTF, it is evident that historically there have been PFP pay for play ladies working there on the street, in other words, streetwalkers, henceforth referred to as SWs, seeking to pick up customers for ST short time or LT long time engagements. Not only have there evidently been Thai lady SWs, but reports allege to sightings of Russian and African females also. Though in the video of the Africans they were sitting on stools, of some venue I assume, by the edge of the road, so not technically SWs, perhaps, since they were not walking, standing or sitting etc on the street. Call them freelancers, if you like.

Overall the lady SW scene in Phuket doesn't seem to have been as high in numbers or quality, and perhaps less economical, as compared to SWs around the Nana BTS station vicinity of Bangkok, from the Nana Hotel to Soi Cowboy, or even the Pattaya Beach Road area. Though once Thailand becomes more tourist friendly again, the BR scene certainly looks like a worthwhile number three option for SWs in the LOS land of smiles and worth investigating more fully with feet on the ground. Purely for research purposes, of course. LOL. We all have to do our little bit to boost the economy and help the struggling poor in Asia. Cheers.[/QUOTE]I've been to Thailand 3 times. Visited BKK 3 times, Pattaya and Phuket once. My ranking of ease of mongering + value + beauty is as follows:

1. Pattaya.

2. BKK.

3. Phuket.

Pattaya: There are some rare beauties in Pattaya, and prices (I think) are usually better at soi 6. Pattaya walking street wasn't very good (very touristy and bar girls know they can charge a LOT for ST 5 k and LT 10 k + barfine). But soi 6 had a decent amount of 7's and 8's available at much more affordable rates. Also, the bar scene was a lot more fun.

BKK: Lots of choices. From Nana, Soi Cowboy, Thermae Cafe, and soapy massage shops. There's so much available in so many areas. Prices I think tend to be at or slightly higher than Pattaya (again, not WS).

Phuket: I had a fun time in Phuket and found very beautiful ladies here. But it's a lot more remote than BKK and Pattaya. I think this leads to ladies being used to charging more. I also don't think there's a lot of areas in Phuket allowing for competition. Most of the action will be either in BR or SW. I don't usually like SW, but obviously, you'll get a much better deal from them. I did see one in Phuket for 2 k. I believe I got 2 pops. But it wasn't a GFE session like I normally have with BGs (bar girls).

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2538962]There are only a few BKK P4P girls that can match the hotties you see with your GF at places like BTS/MRT and the malls. Comparing BKK go-go girls (Nana and Cowboy) to the Phuket go-go girls (Bangla Road), the Bangla Road girls are hotter to my eye (and slightly more expensive).

If you enjoy the Phuket beaches, that's perfect for you because you don't lose anything in terms of P4P girl hotness.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.

Off topic: it seems there were more beautiful girls on thaifriendly in 2014-15 then there are now.

[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2090243/phuket-to-open-to-vaccinated-foreign-tourists-on-july-1[/URL]

I also hear that the quarantine will drop to 7 days to those with jab's certificate (not earlier that 14 days and not longer than 3 months before the entry to Thailand); other destinations to follow in October.

[QUOTE=Questner;2544727][URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2090243/phuket-to-open-to-vaccinated-foreign-tourists-on-july-1[/URL]

I also hear that the quarantine will drop to 7 days to those with jab's certificate (not earlier that 14 days and not longer than 3 months before the entry to Thailand); other destinations to follow in October.[/QUOTE]Oh my god, I can't wait! Looks like Phuket will reopen for vaccinated tourists (with no quarantine) when they've vaccinated 70% of their residents (ETA July 1 in Phuket, Oct 1 rest of Thailand). I hear weather's horrible during July, but after having not traveled for over a year, I might just go during their monsoon season.

On another note, will they only honor the vaccine passport / proof if one was vaccinated within the last 3 months? If for example I got vaccinated in June and went to Thailand in July, does that mean I can't visit again in Oct, since my vaccination would be 4 months old by that point?

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2544831] I hear weather's horrible during July, but after having not traveled for over a year, I might just go during their monsoon season.

On another note, will they only honor the vaccine passport / proof if one was vaccinated within the last 3 months? If for example I got vaccinated in June and went to Thailand in July, does that mean I can't visit again in Oct, since my vaccination would be 4 months old by that point?[/QUOTE]If you received your second shot in June you would not be allowed to re-enter in October. Why it's important to plan on when you will get your vaccination in accordance with your pending travel dates.

Weather is horrible in July? It's not the hottest time of the year which is now til end of May. Not sure how much worse Phuket is than Pattaya and Bangkok but rainy season is overrated in the latter 2 cities. Flooding is usually a result of poor sewage systems. It will still be rainy season in October BTW.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2545113]If you received your second shot in June you would not be allowed to re-enter in October. Why it's important to plan on when you will get your vaccination in accordance with your pending travel dates.

Weather is horrible in July? It's not the hottest time of the year which is now til end of May. Not sure how much worse Phuket is than Pattaya and Bangkok but rainy season is overrated in the latter 2 cities. Flooding is usually a result of poor sewage systems. It will still be rainy season in October BTW.[/QUOTE]Link to the three month vaccine requirement? I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere. Would seem to be counterproductive (and supported by zero science that I'm aware of).

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;2547067]Link to the three month vaccine requirement? I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere. Would seem to be counterproductive (and supported by zero science that I'm aware of).[/QUOTE]All experts, including pharmacies are only saying 3 months right now because that's how long the clinical trial monitoring was done for. So the wording is more like "We know the vaccine's effective for at least 90 days. " It's not to say it's not effective longer. They're saying they don't have enough evidence yet.

Just google "vaccine effective 90 days", you'll find plenty of articles.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2547144]All experts, including pharmacies are only saying 3 months right now because that's how long the clinical trial monitoring was done for. So the wording is more like "We know the vaccine's effective for at least 90 days. " It's not to say it's not effective longer. They're saying they don't have enough evidence yet.

Just google "vaccine effective 90 days", you'll find plenty of articles.[/QUOTE]I'm specifically asking for a link to a news article or government announcement (I've searched and haven't found any). What "people are saying" may not be the official policy (and hopefully isn't!)

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;2547181]I'm specifically asking for a link to a news article or government announcement (I've searched and haven't found any). What "people are saying" may not be the official policy (and hopefully isn't!)[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/02/17/after-your-covid-19-vaccination-whats-up-with-the-90-day-limit/[/URL]

This was literally the second article that showed up when I looked up "90 day vaccine". You need to work on your google skillz.

Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine is 90% effective for at least 6 months and protects against South Africa variant.

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/04/01/pfizer-covid-vaccine-over-90-effective-least-6-months-study/4830501001/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2547182][URL]https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/02/17/after-your-covid-19-vaccination-whats-up-with-the-90-day-limit/[/URL]

This was literally the second article that showed up when I looked up "90 day vaccine". You need to work on your google skillz.[/QUOTE]I was asking for a link which states (or even merely suggests) that the proposed Thai policy would have a requirement that vaccines be within 90 days.

The article you linked is about general CDC quarantine suggestions. And BTW it explicitly states that the science is as yet undetermined.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;2547250]I was asking for a link which states (or even merely suggests) that the proposed Thai policy would have a requirement that vaccines be within 90 days.

The article you linked is about general CDC quarantine suggestions. And BTW it explicitly states that the science is as yet undetermined.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's the point I'm trying to make. Nobody's saying the vaccine's ineffective after 90 days. They're saying it's safe for AT LEAST 90 days. It means they have strong data to suggest that people who are vaccinated are safe for at least 90 days. Why 90 days? Because that's what the study was for in order to get the vaccine authorized for emergency use ASAP. We all assume it's good for probably about a year, but there's been no study done to prove that.

Which is why the link Run Mann posted is highly encouraging.

[QUOTE=RunMann;2547246]Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine is 90% effective for at least 6 months and protects against South Africa variant.

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/04/01/pfizer-covid-vaccine-over-90-effective-least-6-months-study/4830501001/[/URL][/QUOTE]As time goes on, I hope they keep revising / increasing the efficacy duration of the vaccines.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;2547250]I was asking for a link which states (or even merely suggests) that the proposed Thai policy would have a requirement that vaccines be within 90 days.[/QUOTE]The early articles regarding the suggested sandbox rules stated that your vaccine must be newer than 90 days. I read that in multiple articles. The more recent articles that I've seen haven't mentioned anything about how new your vaccine should be.

I don't remember exact location where I read the 90 day limit, I tend to look at BangkokPost, PattayaNews, and TheThaiger. I am skeptical of everything I read in those publications.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2547354]The early articles regarding the suggested sandbox rules stated that your vaccine must be newer than 90 days. I read that in multiple articles. The more recent articles that I've seen haven't mentioned anything about how new your vaccine should be.

I don't remember exact location where I read the 90 day limit, I tend to look at BangkokPost, PattayaNews, and TheThaiger. I am skeptical of everything I read in those publications.[/QUOTE]Helpful, thanks!

Is there anywhere like Bangkok's Thermae in Phuket?

[QUOTE=Almond812;2551178]Is there anywhere like Bangkok's Thermae in Phuket?[/QUOTE]At the moment there is nothing in Phuket like Thermae that I am aware of. Bangka road. Now closed due to the latest COVID outbreak. Has a few bars where you can find FL after midnight but there isn't any single place where I've seen a critical mass like Thermae.

Hello guys,

It looks like Phuket will definitely be opening July 1. Although July to October can be wet months (rainy), for anyone wanting to monger in Thailand, Phuket. There are definitely spots open such as the mega nightclub Illuzion Phuket and the more popular go go bars. So, all we need is for Pattaya to open by early next year and it will be perfect.

The article states:

"The national tourism panel met Friday and affirmed the timetable for Phuket to be back in business on July 1, when the mandatory two-week quarantine will be dropped for vaccinated visitors, according to government spokeswoman Traisuree Taisaranakul. The committee also endorsed Oct. 1 openings for nine other popular destinations, including Bangkok and Chiang Mai, with restrictions eased in the rest of Thailand in January, she said. ".

Here is the article source quoting this:

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-07/phuket-ready-for-foreign-tourism-in-july-despite-thai-covid-wave[/URL]

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2557485]Hello guys,

It looks like Phuket will definitely be opening July 1. Although July to October can be wet months (rainy), for anyone wanting to monger in Thailand, Phuket. There are definitely spots open such as the mega nightclub Illuzion Phuket and the more popular go go bars. So, all we need is for Pattaya to open by early next year and it will be perfect.

The article states:

"The national tourism panel met Friday and affirmed the timetable for Phuket to be back in business on July 1, when the mandatory two-week quarantine will be dropped for vaccinated visitors, according to government spokeswoman Traisuree Taisaranakul. The committee also endorsed Oct. 1 openings for nine other popular destinations, including Bangkok and Chiang Mai, with restrictions eased in the rest of Thailand in January, she said. ".

Here is the article source quoting this:

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-07/phuket-ready-for-foreign-tourism-in-july-despite-thai-covid-wave[/URL][/QUOTE]Flip flop, only believe it when you see it. Look at what they are doing now. Not what was said would be done and then they screwed up everything by letting songkran happen.

[QUOTE=TConor;2557541]Flip flop, only believe it when you see it. Look at what they are doing now. Not what was said would be done and then they screwed up everything by letting songkran happen.[/QUOTE]Sounds good, but anothe zinger not mentioned in the article is that vaccinations in Phuket are now stalled. Don't know why or how long that will last, but they need 70% before opening.

Even after Phuket (and other places) are reopened there could be another flip flop that quarantines you or closes all the activities that interest you.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2557545]Sounds good, but anothe zinger not mentioned in the article is that vaccinations in Phuket are now stalled. Don't know why or how long that will last, but they need 70% before opening.

Even after Phuket (and other places) are reopened there could be another flip flop that quarantines you or closes all the activities that interest you.[/QUOTE]I agree that we should wait and see as the Thai government have been notorius for changing their minds and pushing dates back, but what is interesting is that the announcement came just a few days ago and at this time they knew about the delays, slowdown etc. I guess with the current numbers at only 20% of the Phuket population being vaccinated, there will be a delay in the reopening.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2557734]I agree that we should wait and see as the Thai government have been notorius for changing their minds and pushing dates back, but what is interesting is that the announcement came just a few days ago and at this time they knew about the delays, slowdown etc. I guess with the current numbers at only 20% of the Phuket population being vaccinated, there will be a delay in the reopening.[/QUOTE]

The article you linked says Phuket's 22% FULLY vaccinated. This is a really positive sign. Vaccination efforts usually take some time to ramp up. Phuket only started vaccinating in early April. So if they stay on track (they'll probably speed up, actually), they're on pace to be fully vaccinated by or close to July 1.

That said, Thailand has been reacting fast to the COVID situation, so I wouldn't be surprised if they delayed Phuket's sandbox plans. Let's hope not.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2557740]The article you linked says Phuket's 22% FULLY vaccinated. This is a really positive sign. Vaccination efforts usually take some time to ramp up. Phuket only started vaccinating in early April. So if they stay on track (they'll probably speed up, actually), they're on pace to be fully vaccinated by or close to July 1.

That said, Thailand has been reacting fast to the COVID situation, so I wouldn't be surprised if they delayed Phuket's sandbox plans. Let's hope not.[/QUOTE]This is good information SK, I actually was not aware they just started vaccinating this month. So you are correct, they are on a good pace. This is a great observation.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2557740]The article you linked says Phuket's 22% FULLY vaccinated. This is a really positive sign. Vaccination efforts usually take some time to ramp up. Phuket only started vaccinating in early April. So if they stay on track (they'll probably speed up, actually), they're on pace to be fully vaccinated by or close to July 1.[/QUOTE]A few days ago a BKK nurse friend got the Sinovac vaccine, she said all hospital staff with direct patient contact were getting the vaccine. She also said that many Thai people don't want it. I called some other non-P4P girls (Phuket, Khon Kaen, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Bangkok) and it seems that many Thai people don't want the vaccine. Some don't want the China vaccine and will wait for a different vaccine while others will skip it all together. If Phuket doesn't have 70% willing people, it won't be possible to reach that threshold by July.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2558146]A few days ago a BKK nurse friend got the Sinovac vaccine, she said all hospital staff with direct patient contact were getting the vaccine. She also said that many Thai people don't want it. I called some other non-P4P girls (Phuket, Khon Kaen, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Bangkok) and it seems that many Thai people don't want the vaccine. Some don't want the China vaccine and will wait for a different vaccine while others will skip it all together. If Phuket doesn't have 70% willing people, it won't be possible to reach that threshold by July.[/QUOTE]Hopefully, it's due to their fear of the China vaxx. Looks like Thailand's vaxx options will be opening up soon. Moderna's supposed to be approved this week. Astrazeneca just passed QA and is expected to become Thailand's premier vaxx source, with first batch being delivered in June. They're also trying to get the Pfizer shots by July.

But you're right. They're on a good track to reach 70% immunity, IF they're able to keep at the same vaxx rate, IF people are willing/wanting to get vaxx'd.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2558383]Hopefully, it's due to their fear of the China vaxx. Looks like Thailand's vaxx options will be opening up soon. Moderna's supposed to be approved this week. [/QUOTE]Moderna painfully slow in getting approved but the much bigger question is where are they currently going to get Moderna vaccines? Even some the G8 countries are currently having issues getting Moderna supply.

Bit Siri.

Thaiger saying "fat chance" re Phuket reopening. If nothing else, this is a decent reality check and posses a number of good, unanswered questions. Can't see doing this.

[URL]https://youtu.be/WbYJOGEgjAE[/URL]

It's possible that Phuket may open on July 1, or not. But what about August 1? September 1?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2558412]Moderna painfully slow in getting approved but the much bigger question is where are they currently going to get Moderna vaccines? Even some the G8 countries are currently having issues getting Moderna supply.

Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]From the failure to join Covax to the keystone cops style of securing vaxs one needs to go back to the Astra Zenaca licensing deal of a year ago. Enough said.

They're using sinovac which is pretty useless for jabs, 50% efficacy. May as well not bother.

[QUOTE=Berrys66;2563494]They're using sinovac which is pretty useless for jabs, 50% efficacy. May as well not bother.[/QUOTE]Useless? That certainly isn't true. Clearly you haven't gone through the math of how a virus propagates. If everyone gets that vaccine, it might even be sufficient to drop the "R" value below 1. It also reduces the COVID symptoms.

That said, it certainly isn't in the league of Pfizer or Moderna.

There are new reports that the Prime Minister has confirmed that Phuket will be opened to vaccinated tourists from July 1, you have to stay there at least one week before you are allowed to leave for other parts of Thailand.

If phuket opens on July 1 with no quarantine, would that mean all the bars and stuff are also allowed to open? Or could it be Phuket opens but the bars and beaches etc are still not allowed to open?

Best guess is all I'm asking for. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2563865]If phuket opens on July 1 with no quarantine, would that mean all the bars and stuff are also allowed to open? Or could it be Phuket opens but the bars and beaches etc are still not allowed to open?

Best guess is all I'm asking for. Thanks.[/QUOTE]My guess is businesses will be allowed to open if employees are vaccinated. Most business owners will be slow to restart operations due to lack of customers, employees, and money. Business owners won't reopen if they expect additional COVID restrictions in the near future. Girls are now back home in Isaan or wherever, many will return after tourism grows. Many businesses will never reopen under prior ownership. It will be a long process before Phuket is fun again. Months? Years?

Chicken and egg thing. Businesses need tourists and tourists need businesses.

The big question is whether it's worth it for the vaccinated to visit Phuket now. The governor has allowed massage shops to open as of June 1.

Most likely, Phuket will be fully open by July 1st. Only restriction may be that the business needs to be 70% vaccinated before opening?

So far, Phuket's 58% vaccinated. As for the bars and massage shops, time will tell, but it's probably a waiting game on both ends. Mongers waiting to see what hobbying is going to be like, keeping a close eye on FRs. Shop girls are also probably going to call their friends to see what tourist traffic is like. July isn't really a busy season for tourism. 1 night 1 dollar campaign might help, but who wants to go in muggy / rainy July-Sept? I'd venture to guess that tourism will start ramping up and pick up towards Sept-Oct.

The main purpose of the sandbox is to confirm opening to vaccinated tourists will work. So tourism will probably really start picking up in end of Oct-Nov as other parts of Thailand also start opening up.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/phuketinfocenter[/URL]

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2564753]Most likely, Phuket will be fully open by July 1st. Only restriction may be that the business needs to be 70% vaccinated before opening?

So far, Phuket's 58% vaccinated. As for the bars and massage shops, time will tell, but it's probably a waiting game on both ends. Mongers waiting to see what hobbying is going to be like, keeping a close eye on FRs. Shop girls are also probably going to call their friends to see what tourist traffic is like. July isn't really a busy season for tourism. 1 night 1 dollar campaign might help, but who wants to go in muggy / rainy July-Sept? I'd venture to guess that tourism will start ramping up and pick up towards Sept-Oct.

The main purpose of the sandbox is to confirm opening to vaccinated tourists will work. So tourism will probably really start picking up in end of Oct-Nov as other parts of Thailand also start opening up.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/phuketinfocenter[/URL][/QUOTE]Going to pay close attention to what's going to happen in Phuket for the next 2 months before I make plans to travel to Thailand and stay for 2 months.

I think in this case the supply must precede the demand.

No one will go (or stay) to Phuket if everything is closed.

On the other hand, Phuket can become a very popular spot if it is the most lively place in Thailand.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2564753]Most likely, Phuket will be fully open by July 1st. Only restriction may be that the business needs to be 70% vaccinated before opening?

So far, Phuket's 58% vaccinated. As for the bars and massage shops, time will tell, but it's probably a waiting game on both ends. Mongers waiting to see what hobbying is going to be like, keeping a close eye on FRs. Shop girls are also probably going to call their friends to see what tourist traffic is like. July isn't really a busy season for tourism. 1 night 1 dollar campaign might help, but who wants to go in muggy / rainy July-Sept? I'd venture to guess that tourism will start ramping up and pick up towards Sept-Oct.

The main purpose of the sandbox is to confirm opening to vaccinated tourists will work. So tourism will probably really start picking up in end of Oct-Nov as other parts of Thailand also start opening up.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/phuketinfocenter[/URL][/QUOTE]I read an article this morning which stated that you still had to have a visa and a COE from the Thai embassy of the country you are traveling from. That is the show stopper. Until they go back to just stamping your passport when you have the vaccine certificate and the negative test very few people are going to come. The article I read could be incorrect but we won't know for sure until sometime around July 1st. Who's going to make plans when the rules are always changing?

[QUOTE=Pimpampoumpipo;2564806]I think in this case the supply must precede the demand.

No one will go (or stay) to Phuket if everything is closed.

On the other hand, Phuket can become a very popular spot if it is the most lively place in Thailand.[/QUOTE]I think everything will be opened in Phuket by Jul 1. But pay 4 play will probably not be firing on all cylinders. So it'll be enough to attract the normal (non p4 p) tourists and their families. But probably not enough for the p4 p tourists.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2564807]I read an article this morning which stated that you still had to have a visa and a COE from the Thai embassy of the country you are traveling from. That is the show stopper. Until they go back to just stamping your passport when you have the vaccine certificate and the negative test very few people are going to come. The article I read could be incorrect but we won't know for sure until sometime around July 1st. Who's going to make plans when the rules are always changing?[/QUOTE]For sure. With so much changing in Thailand, it's hard to assume that reopening really means that. Their 3rd wave hasn't been decreasing at all. They could (I doubt they will) change their travel and quarantine policies at any time. That along with the rainy season in full force from July-Oct, I doubt tourism will pick up right away. But I think it's also more about testing the no-quarantine policy and make sure it's ok to open up other provinces in Oct and Jan.

According to this report, 20 tourists have signed up to visit Thailand in July:

[URL]youtu.be/vw-owqUCSoQ?t=70[/URL]

[URL]forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1219176-the-grand-re-opening-just-20-american-tourists-to-arrive-in-phuket-on-July-9/[/URL].

It also says opening is July 9th, not 1st. A lot of it is probably due to uncertainty / chances their reopening will get delayed.

I think I'm ready for some Thai pussies in August when it finally reopens. Any fellow monger there right now who knows the girl situation there?

[QUOTE=PSEstud;2566835]I think I'm ready for some Thai pussies in August when it finally reopens. Any fellow monger there right now who knows the girl situation there?[/QUOTE]Old Haggard ones are available.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2566873]Old Haggard ones are available.[/QUOTE]When were you last in Phuket or Thailand to be reasonably make this comment?

Bit Siri.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2566996]When were you last in Phuket or Thailand to be reasonably make this comment?

Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]Miss Jira gave me an e-tour. All I saw were old and ladeeboys.

All Thailand is same same. Majority of work bargirls are Haggard, old, unattractive, unpersonable or a combo of all.

Luckily there are Fun Mildy hot ones thrown in.

Sorry to rain on your Parades.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2566996]When were you last in Phuket or Thailand to be reasonably make this comment?

Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]It's just my observation BB but so many times members post experiences of being here or there, at this go go or that go go and your reaction is when you were there to say this thereby questioning the validity of their post. . I know you pride yourself on knowing what goes on but would it be impertinent to ask when were you in Phuket last to know whether it is full of old "haggards" or not. Maybe it is maybe it isn't but unless you were there recently you don't know so why question the post. Most of us know there are fantasy posts on the forum not least on the Pattaya thread by some members you hang around with yet you don't seem to have any problem with those. What am I missing.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2567104]It's just my observation BB but so many times members post experiences of being here or there, at this go go or that go go and your reaction is when you were there to say this thereby questioning the validity of their post. . I know you pride yourself on knowing what goes on but would it be impertinent to ask when were you in Phuket last to know whether it is full of old "haggards" or not. Maybe it is maybe it isn't but unless you were there recently you don't know so why question the post. Most of us know there are fantasy posts on the forum not least on the Pattaya thread by some members you hang around with yet you don't seem to have any problem with those. What am I missing.[/QUOTE]Many of my Pattaya post don't get printed. I make them suitable for children. LOL.

Bb would go Bonkers if he saw them. LOL.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2567104]I know you pride yourself on knowing what goes on but would it be impertinent to ask when were you in Phuket last to know whether it is full of old "haggards" or not. Maybe it is maybe it isn't but unless you were there recently you don't know so why question the post. [/QUOTE]Phuket information is actually VERY relevant right now since some of us, including myself, are considering returning to the Phuket sandbox in July rather than having to quarantine in Bangkok or Pattaya. So if Danny makes a post that the girls are ugly then I am hoping his information is recent and first hand. Not just a guess of how it is.

Here are 2 examples of irrelevant info. Met a guy who kept pumping up Brazil. My buddy in Germany bought tickets to go to Brazil based solely on his information and found the girls not to his liking at all. Then he finds out on his return the guy pumping Brazil was last there 8 years before! Another is I met a guy who pumped up a little known hobby country in Europe. I thought OK maybe I'll give it a try. Luckily one of the guys I met in Thailand is from there and told me all those clubs this guy was pumping up had closed years ago!

So yes if a guy posts girls are hot or girls are not hot hopefully it's based on a recent trip! This is why I ask when a person was last there when the information is not consistent with what I know or heard or if I'm searching for new relevant information.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2567417]Phuket information is actually VERY relevant right now since some of us, including myself, are considering returning to the Phuket sandbox in July rather than having to quarantine in Bangkok or Pattaya.

Here are 2 examples of irrelevant info. Met a guy who kept pumping up Brazil. My buddy in Germany bought tickets to go to Brazil based solely on his information and found the girls not to his liking at all. Then he finds out on his return the guy pumping Brazil was last there 8 years before! <snip>
So yes if a guy posts girls are hot or girls are not hot hopefully it's based on a recent trip! [/QUOTE]I could not agree with you more on the relevancy of up to date posts and the value of on the scene reportage especially post Covid on the scene reportage, but your 1st example of Brazil is a bad choice to make the point on several counts. I would suggest that you use any other country for an example other than Brazil because A) Brazil is a very popular destination and there are plenty of up to date trip reports in the SP & RJ Brazil forums and B) although Brazil aficionados tend to disagree on appropriate prices to pay (what a surprise) and tastes can widely vary with some preferring silly cones and large butts while others like myself preferring the thin, natural look; I don't think you will find very many punters thinking Brazilian girls are not attractive and or great in bed because they are very attractive and great in bed. 555.

Have fun in Phuket. I will look forward to reading your posts. IMHO, Phuket pre-Covid was best when I brought my own girl. I cannot imagine it being better as a sand box. That is another reason, in addition to all the smokin' hot Brazilian girls, why I am going back to Brazil in October for a 2nd helping and postponing my return to LOS until March / April 2022.

P.S. Have you seen BKK & Pattaya hotel rates? There are some real (pay later / no penalty cancelation) bargains available. Book now for whenever.

NB.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2567417]Phuket information is actually VERY relevant right now since some of us, including myself, are considering returning to the Phuket sandbox in July rather than having to quarantine in Bangkok or Pattaya. So if Danny makes a post that the girls are ugly then I am hoping his information is recent and first hand. Not just a guess of how it is.

Here are 2 examples of irrelevant info. Met a guy who kept pumping up Brazil. My buddy in Germany bought tickets to go to Brazil based solely on his information and found the girls not to his liking at all. Then he finds out on his return the guy pumping Brazil was last there 8 years before! Another is I met a guy who pumped up a little known hobby country in Europe. I thought OK maybe I'll give it a try. Luckily one of the guys I met in Thailand is from there and told me all those clubs this guy was pumping up had closed years ago!

So yes if a guy posts girls are hot or girls are not hot hopefully it's based on a recent trip! This is why I ask when a person was last there when the information is not consistent with what I know or heard or if I'm searching for new relevant information.[/QUOTE]Not sure I personally would ever venture forth on a single members post. Maybe a visit to a massage shop but halfway round the world, umm?. For starters his idea of fun, which situations and what kind of women turn him on might well be different from mine and as you say there might be a credibility issue as to the accuracy of the source. So I get it, you need confirmation. Makes sense.

Pump and dump. LOL.

Many think Benz number 10 of Desire livestream is gorgeous. I think she is borderline really really ugly.

See the issue.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2567528]Not sure I personally would ever venture forth on a single members post. Maybe a visit to a massage shop but halfway round the world, umm?. For starters his idea of fun, which situations and what kind of women turn him on might well be different from mine and as you say there might be a credibility issue as to the accuracy of the source. So I get it, you need confirmation. Makes sense.[/QUOTE]Remember the Korean guys you tube vid I recommend. The one where he got upset because I didn't post URL.

Maybe he likes my tastes in Bargirls.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2567417]Phuket information is actually VERY relevant right now since some of us, including myself, are considering returning to the Phuket sandbox in July rather than having to quarantine in Bangkok or Pattaya. So if Danny makes a post that the girls are ugly then I am hoping his information is recent and first hand. Not just a guess of how it is.[/QUOTE]I was last in Phuket in March 2020. IMHO, there were more hot girls along Bangla road than Bangkok, Krabi, or Samui. The north side of Bangla road open air dance bars had many appealing girls as did some of the bars along Soi Sea Dragon. The south side of Bangla was less appealing to me. I didn't go in any of the clubs (eg. Illuzion). The freelancers along Bangla road were similar to the ones found along Sukhumvit and Soi 4, both female and lady boy, perhaps a few more appealing girls on Bangla Road. The girls outside the massage places near Bangla road looked similar to the ones you see in other parts of Thailand. This was all just a few days pre-COVID-19, so it's meaningless for right now.

Right now I have one contact in Phuket, she now lives on the east side of the island so she doesn't see Patong on a daily basis. Several weeks ago she made a walking video at sunset in the Patong beach area; the video started south of the police box and then walked north and then east on Bangla. There simply weren't enough people around to make a judgement of the quality of the available girls. Yesterday she said that a few more people are now in Phuket but not much different than before. Next time she goes to Bangla Road area she is going to make another video so I can see the current situation. I really don't expect there will be enough people to make a judgement on girl quality.

I'm also thinking about going to the Phuket quarantine, most likely about October or November. I'm giving some time for businesses to restart and (hopefully) more girls to return to the island.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2567528]Not sure I personally would ever venture forth on a single members post. .[/QUOTE]Agree you and I wouldn't but some new guys might. The 2 examples I gave are guys we travel with and see the girls they like so we trust their judgment. The Brazil guy we have met up in Germany FKK clubs many times. The Europe guy I spent 2 weeks with him in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2567604]I was last in Phuket in March 2020. IMHO, there were more hot girls along Bangla road than Bangkok, Krabi, or Samui. The north side of Bangla road open air dance bars had many appealing girls as did some of the bars along Soi Sea Dragon. The south side of Bangla was less appealing to me. I didn't go in any of the clubs (eg. Illuzion). The freelancers along Bangla road were similar to the ones found along Sukhumvit and Soi 4, both female and lady boy, perhaps a few more appealing girls on Bangla Road. The girls outside the massage places near Bangla road looked similar to the ones you see in other parts of Thailand. This was all just a few days pre-COVID-19, so it's meaningless for right now.

Right now I have one contact in Phuket, she now lives on the east side of the island so she doesn't see Patong on a daily basis. Several weeks ago she made a walking video at sunset in the Patong beach area; the video started south of the police box and then walked north and then east on Bangla. There simply weren't enough people around to make a judgement of the quality of the available girls. Yesterday she said that a few more people are now in Phuket but not much different than before. Next time she goes to Bangla Road area she is going to make another video so I can see the current situation. I really don't expect there will be enough people to make a judgement on girl quality.

I'm also thinking about going to the Phuket quarantine, most likely about October or November. I'm giving some time for businesses to restart and (hopefully) more girls to return to the island.[/QUOTE]Bangkok Soi 4 Freelancers and the like? One humble person's opinion-. No thank you Mam.

Indians and Arabs were always negotiating with the Lancers. That should speak volumes on the Kinds of girls they were.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2567662]Bangkok Soi 4 Freelancers and the like? One humble person's opinion-. No thank you Mam.

Indians and Arabs were always negotiating with the Lancers. That should speak volumes on the Kinds of girls they were.[/QUOTE]If you want a top notch girl, you're unlikely to find her as a street freelancer.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2567417]Phuket information is actually VERY relevant right now since some of us, including myself, are considering returning to the Phuket sandbox in July[/QUOTE]Believing "sandbox" means lots with tourists I'm guessing some girls who work the Phuket patch are thinking of returning in July and are already trying to lose those extra pounds so a visit could be worthwhile.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2567824]Believing "sandbox" means lots with tourists I'm guessing some girls who work the Phuket patch are thinking of returning in July and are already trying to lose those extra pounds so a visit could be worthwhile.[/QUOTE]Unless they open bars and really vaccinate 70-80% of the locals. If CV-19 spreads there you can forget Thailand for years.

[QUOTE=TConor;2568223]Unless they open bars and really vaccinate 70-80% of the locals. If CV-19 spreads there you can forget Thailand for years.[/QUOTE]She: Just read a report that we can visit Thailand without quarantine.

He: Let's go.

She: There are a few conditions.

He: OK what?

She Need to show proof of vaccination.

He: We can.

She: Need a negative PCR covid test within 72 hours of departure.

He: I guess we can manage that.

She: Need certificate of entry from Thai Embassy.

He: No visa on arrival, umm ok I'll contact the embassy.

She: Need $100,000 covid cover.

He: But we're vaccinated why do we need insurance.

She: Need to show proof of adequate funds.

He: OK.

She: Have to stay at a government approved hotel.

He: Anything else.

She: On arrival download a contact tracing app to show your whereabouts at all times.

He: Ok and.

She: Cannot leave island for 14 days.

He: Anything else.

She: Get RT-PCR test on day 6 and again on day 12.

He: Is that it.

She: Pubs on the island might be closed.

He: I'm not going.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2568263]She: Just read a report that we can visit Thailand without quarantine.

She: Pubs on the island might be closed.

He: I'm not going.[/QUOTE]Basically 95% of business / restaurants in patong or nearby beaches are still closed. The place has had no tourists for.

[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2568431]Basically 95% of business / restaurants in patong or nearby beaches are still closed. The place has had no tourists for.[/QUOTE]95% could be optimistic.

As for the Girly scene I think it's even worse than I intimated before.

Even the Haggards went Home to ride out the Storm.

It seems Thailand is purposefully shitting on tourists by changing the rules every other week. People with vaccine are low risk to spread covid. Why try to plan on coming back if you can't trust any of the plans Thailand okays? Maybe it's time for me to find a new vacation spot.

Is it different groups there changing the rules or is it the same group that constantly changes the rules? And is it all about covid or are some using covid fear to change Thailand?

Mostly this is just a rant. I'm sick of covid ruling the world.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2568593]It seems Thailand is purposefully shitting on tourists by changing the rules every other week. [/QUOTE]Your rant is how I sometimes feel, but I'm sure it isn't purposeful. When we get frustrated we need to remember that the Thai government is concerned with keeping the Thai people alive without the excessive hospital networks available in western countries. They are also going to be far behind western countries in availability and distribution of vaccines. Terrible economy, but very few deaths.

If we think we are frustrated, imagine how the whole Thai hospitality industry feels. My favorite resort owner was forced to sell, likely at a discount. My favorite Phuket Suzy Wong girl is living with family in Isaan listening to daily shit from her father because she hasn't provided enough money to family in a year. We are the lucky ones compared to the Thai people.

I respect the difficult decisions made by the Thai government.

Rant over.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2568263]
She: Pubs on the island might be closed.
He: I'm not going.[/QUOTE]LOL, very funny Franciscass!

There is one more important condition: international travellers "must be from countries / regions with a low to medium risk of SAR-CoV-2 virus as announced and constantly updated by the Ministry of Public Health (MoPH)."

[URL]https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-sandbox-workshop-prepares-for-july-1-reopening-80321.php[/URL]
[URL]https://www.tatnews.org/2021/06/initial-information-phuket-sandbox/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2568666]LOL, very funny Franciscass!

There is one more important condition: international travellers "must be from countries / regions with a low to medium risk of SAR-CoV-2 virus as announced and constantly updated by the Ministry of Public Health (MoPH)."

[URL]https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-sandbox-workshop-prepares-for-july-1-reopening-80321.php[/URL]
[URL]https://www.tatnews.org/2021/06/initial-information-phuket-sandbox/[/URL][/QUOTE]Forgot to mention, need to wear masks and social distance at all times and oh after you book your flights, hotels, get COE from Embassy, negative test yada yad yada the local brain boxes can change their minds about when this begins. Was scheduled for July1st, then seemed to have been moved to later in July and now some reports say its going to August 1st. It's a moving target with variables such local vaccination levels, number of bookings, local infection rates, level of interest from hotels and other stakeholders and obviously conditions in countries of origin of prospective visitors. Lucking Thailand is still considered as relatively low risk as regards new suddenly introduced quarantine protocols when returning home but the only reality we can be sure of when it comes to this virus what will happen is not predictable.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2568263]She: Just read a report that we can visit Thailand without quarantine.
He: Let's go.She: There are a few conditions.

He: OK what? She Need to show proof of vaccination.He: We can.

She: Need a negative PCR covid test within 72 hours of departure. He: I guess we can manage that.

She: Need certificate of entry from Thai Embassy. He: No visa on arrival, umm ok I'll contact the embassy.

She: Need $100,000 covid cover. He: But we're vaccinated why do we need insurance.

She: Need to show proof of adequate funds. He: OK..[/QUOTE]Bingo, you nailed it. Unless you have specific girls you want to / need to see, the Kingdom, IMHO, will remain in condition WAIT for some time to come.

Personally, I am in no hurry to return until I hear that at least 50% to 60% of the Go Go's, bars, nightclubs in BKK & Pat are back up and running at pre-Covid levels. The shutdown has devastated the entertainment industry. I feel very sorry for the bar owners and the girls. But with all due respect they are not my problem, although I have been sending monthly rent money to Mini, my long time girl, since April 2020.

I am also aware that there are alternatives to brick and mortar establishments like SW's and internet sites, but the fun of LOS was in the going out barhopping, nightclubbing and finding girls girls girls until 3 or 4 in the morning. Hopefully the nightlife scene will be resurrected at some future date, but until it is I will continue to travel and monger in more functioning and more fun destinations like Brazil.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2568486]95% could be optimistic.

As for the Girly scene I think it's even worse than I intimated before.

Even the Haggards went Home to ride out the Storm.[/QUOTE]I tend to agree, 95% is optimistic. I stayed in Patong just after Christmas it was like a total wasteland with everything shuttered up, difficult to find anything open at all. We ate at the hotel most nights.

The other side of the island near Phuket city, where most locals live, was unaffected though. However it is kind of boring over the other side, not much to do. Certainly would not want to spend 2 weeks there.

This is what the Thai government just doesn't get. The tourist market is very competitive, especially at the moment.

Tourists are not going to want to visit Phuket where all the attractions are boarded up, be forced to spend 2 weeks on the island as a quarantine facility and have to put up with a pile of ever changing rules.

It is simply not worth it and most sane people will take their tourist dollars else where.

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For our SPECIAL friend who really needs to go to PHUKET. LOL.

Thanks for the info, Danny.

Bit Siri.

In the UK 12 have died from the delta strain even though they had 2 jabs and the numbers are quite small so far, and are in the Manchester area. We wait to see how it pans out.

Navy sea men are invading Phuket in July.

Is Phuket going to operate for just a week or two to service these Fellas.

Are the old Haggard s from all over Thailand being called to duty.

This one I don't get.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2568910]Thanks for the info, Danny.

Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]What does Bit Siri mean?

Hello to everyone, thanks in advance for your help.

Wonder and evaluating few weeks in Phuket in August if the sandbox works properly.

COE, the certificate of entry is obviously a mandatory document and it will be issues only to individuals coming or resident in low middle risk countries.

Does anyone has that list ot known where to find it.

Thanks again, stay safe and happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2568698]Forgot to mention, need to wear masks and social distance at all times and oh after you book your flights, hotels, get COE from Embassy, negative test yada yad yada the local brain boxes can change their minds about when this begins. Was scheduled for July1st, then seemed to have been moved to later in July and now some reports say its going to August 1st. It's a moving target with variables such local vaccination levels, number of bookings, local infection rates, level of interest from hotels and other stakeholders and obviously conditions in countries of origin of prospective visitors. Lucking Thailand is still considered as relatively low risk as regards new suddenly introduced quarantine protocols when returning home but the only reality we can be sure of when it comes to this virus what will happen is not predictable.[/QUOTE]My apologizes, I mentioned two covid tests required while here but its actually three, on arrival after week one and again after week two and incidentally at your own expense. May not be new but personally hadn't come across it till this morning in the Post but it seems that in addition to having to download the Mor Chana app when you arrive you will also be fitted with a wrist bracelet both using GPS will track your whereabouts at all times, (a sort of belt and braces approach I suppose) and penalized if either shows you moving outside the permitted safe zone during your first two weeks. Reportedly facial recognition security cameras will also be in use. Now I totally understand the allure of visiting Thailand I do and in particular the beaches of Phuket but is all this testing and surveillance really necessary or even appropriate.

Other news, holders of non-immigrant visa's wishing to renew 12 month extensions will now require $100,000 insurance policies which includes covid cover. Not going to be straightforward for retirees in their seventies. Why am I beginning to wonder am I really welcome here.

[QUOTE=WhiteShark;2569519]Hello to everyone, thanks in advance for your help.
Wonder and evaluating few weeks in Phuket in August if the sandbox works properly.
COE, the certificate of entry is obviously a mandatory document and it will be issues only to individuals coming or resident in low middle risk countries.
Does anyone has that list ot known where to find it.
Thanks again, stay safe and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]This list has not been officially published yet. They just say "Safe and low risk countries" for now so that they can change anything, anytime. How they expect tourists to plan and book their holidays but not say who is eligible to come is just a perfectly regular day of logic here. Looking at how this from within the country and the news here on how this is being handled, it's a completely shitshow. I am not sure if anyone in their right minds would be rushing to get here.

I think Thailand is doing long term damage to itself as a vacation destination. If they are that cautious, maybe don't open. If they want tourist then have criteria that is reasonable and doesn't change every week. They look like they want tourists but don't care how tourists are treated. It's hard to find needed information. No one would be surprised to get to Phuket and have Phuket close down completely. It's just a shit show by the govt.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2569609]My apologizes, I mentioned two covid tests required while here but its actually three, on arrival after week one and again after week two and incidentally at your own expense. May not be new but personally hadn't come across it till this morning in the Post but it seems that in addition to having to download the Mor Chana app when you arrive you will also be fitted with a wrist bracelet both using GPS will track your whereabouts at all times, (a sort of belt and braces approach I suppose) and penalized if either shows you moving outside the permitted safe zone during your first two weeks. Reportedly facial recognition security cameras will also be in use. Now I totally understand the allure of visiting Thailand I do and in particular the beaches of Phuket but is all this testing and surveillance really necessary or even appropriate.

Other news, holders of non-immigrant visa's wishing to renew 12 month extensions will now require $100,000 insurance policies which includes covid cover. Not going to be straightforward for retirees in their seventies. Why am I beginning to wonder am I really welcome here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horatio;2569671]I think Thailand is doing long term damage to itself as a vacation destination. If they are that cautious, maybe don't open. If they want tourist then have criteria that is reasonable and doesn't change every week. They look like they want tourists but don't care how tourists are treated. It's hard to find needed information. No one would be surprised to get to Phuket and have Phuket close down completely. It's just a shit show by the govt.[/QUOTE]No damage done to Thailand. Already viewed negatively by the world.

As long as nightlife is better than other countries we will be back.

One thing they should do is match hkg, Japan, sin. 90 visa on entry. Even if only temporary.

Bought a drink for Bella. Payment EZ peasant.

Didn't have to join 3 sites to buy a $6. 28 drink.

Say who you buy for. How many. Checkout-done.

The Phuket sandbox really is developing into a sh*t show. Ever changing rules, contradictory announcements from different departments. The rules are as clear as mud. Would not be surprised if they call the whole thing off with only a few days notice. Good luck to everyone trying to change their tickets or getting any refunds.

You would have to think only a very few brave souls are going to book with all the uncertainty.

BTW, currently anyone that tests positive for covid 19 gets taken into quarantine immediately and stays there for at least 14 day. Basically they put you into hospital for observation or even worse a make shift field hospital. That would be a nice way to spend your holiday.

Welcome to the land of smiles.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2569716]Bought a drink for Bella. Payment EZ peasant.[/QUOTE]Do you have a screen shot of Bella or url for her bar livestream? Maybe I'll bang her for you if I end up in Phuket.

Bit Siri.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2569870]Do you have a screen shot of Bella or url for her bar livestream? Maybe I'll bang her for you if I end up in Phuket.

Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]I'll stick this in Pattaya thread. I didn't realize I posted here. If my recommendation can get her a few $1,000's I'm all for it. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

[QUOTE=SirWilliam4;2569066]What does Bit Siri mean?[/QUOTE]A ruse by digital nomads that is:

1. A not so subtle form of brand 'virtue signalling' akin to wearing a red baseball hat in certain countries that like open and rational debate.

2. A game by a bored poster to see how many times others will ask what it means.

3. A diversionary tactic to hide the LGTBQIA+ connotations of the OP's forum name.

4. All of the above.

5. None of the above.

Last one included as an easy cut and paste response.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2569609]Other news, holders of non-immigrant visa's wishing to renew 12 month extensions will now require $100,000 insurance policies which includes covid cover. Not going to be straightforward for retirees in their seventies. Why am I beginning to wonder am I really welcome here.[/QUOTE]Correction with regrets from today's Bangkok Post.

The change in required insurance cover to $100.000 for renewals is for Non Immigrant OA visas, does not apply to O visas unless that is there is not another correction tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2569962]Correction with regrets from today's Bangkok Post.

The change in required insurance cover to $100.000 for renewals is for Non Immigrant OA visas, does not apply to O visas unless that is there is not another correction tomorrow.[/QUOTE]I'm hearing you have to wear a dog or cat collar during your stay. Shock enabled so if they see you doing Nefarious things they can give you a few Jolts to remind you who is in charge.

The latest is that you will be required to wear a tracking bracelet in the Phuket sandbox. Fuck that sh1 t! Germany here I come! No quarantine. No tracking bracelet. FKK clubs have reopened!

Where would you go if on a budget and just wanted to see a new place with a bit of mongering? Say $2000 USD a month. Phuket was easy and fun. Get laid once a week and see a different part of the world and felt very safe.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2570150]The latest is that you will be required to wear a tracking bracelet in the Phuket sandbox. Fuck that sh1 t! Germany here I come! No quarantine. No tracking bracelet. FKK clubs have reopened![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horatio;2570192]Where would you go if on a budget and just wanted to see a new place with a bit of mongering? Say $2000 USD a month. Phuket was easy and fun. Get laid once a week and see a different part of the world and felt very safe.[/QUOTE]2 k for girls and drinks only or including hotel and food? As you know our choices are quite limited and none of the SEA countries are open. If it's 2 k for girls, drinks, and food then Germany is doable as long as you mainly go to the cheaper clubs like Samya and Mondial. Imo for these 2 clubs cheaper does not mean inferior. If 2 k all-in and limited sex I suppose Medellin and Brazil should top your list of countries with open borders.

If all SEA countries were currently open Jakarta, Phnom Penh, and even Ho Chi Minh would top my list of budget places to visit where you can easily find girls. Thailand is considerably more expensive than these 3 countries.

[QUOTE=WhiteShark;2569519]Hello to everyone, thanks in advance for your help.

Wonder and evaluating few weeks in Phuket in August if the sandbox works properly.

COE, the certificate of entry is obviously a mandatory document and it will be issues only to individuals coming or resident in low middle risk countries.

Does anyone has that list ot known where to find it.

Thanks again, stay safe and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Here is the list of approved hotels. Be aware that the prices quoted on this site are about one-third cheaper on Agoda.

[URL]https://asq.in.th/phuket-sandbox-hotels[/URL]

[QUOTE=Berrys66;2568979]In the UK 12 have died from the delta strain even though they had 2 jabs and the numbers are quite small so far, and are in the Manchester area. We wait to see how it pans out.[/QUOTE]It's worth mentioning that the UK has gone from 2 k cases a day to 10 k in the past six weeks, and according to news sources, 99% of these are Delta variant. Remove the Delta variant and you are looking at about 100 new cases a day. How could things have gone wrong so quickly? It's probably because Bojo the Clown gave UK domiciled Indians 96 hours notice to return to the UK or face quarantine.

Before being allowed to board flights to the UK, they were all required to have negative PCR tests issued in a country where medical corruption is notorious. To give you an example, in order to prevent the selective aborting of females, the Indian gov made it illegal for medicos to divulge the gender of the foetus. Regardless of that, 62% of all abortions are on female foetuses. Does that look like the medicos are playing by the rules? So with Covid endemic within India, and people not wanting to pay for a quarantine hotel (£175 per night), how difficult do you think it might have been to change a positive PCR test into a negative test?

Bojo couldn't organise a fuck-up in a brothel full of blind sex starved nymphomaniacs.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2571680]It's worth mentioning that the UK has gone from 2 k cases a day to 10 k in the past six weeks, and according to news sources, 99% of these are Delta variant. Remove the Delta variant and you are looking at about 100 new cases a day. How could things have gone wrong so quickly? It's probably because Bojo the Clown gave UK domiciled Indians 96 hours notice to return to the UK or face quarantine.

Before being allowed to board flights to the UK, they were all required to have negative PCR tests issued in a country where medical corruption is notorious. To give you an example, in order to prevent the selective aborting of females, the Indian gov made it illegal for medicos to divulge the gender of the foetus. Regardless of that, 62% of all abortions are on female foetuses. Does that look like the medicos are playing by the rules? So with Covid endemic within India, and people not wanting to pay for a quarantine hotel (175 per night), how difficult do you think it might have been to change a positive PCR test into a negative test?

Bojo couldn't organise a fuck-up in a brothel full of blind sex starved nymphomaniacs.[/QUOTE]Did you know Singapore has vaccinated only 33%.

Nobody knows what to do.

Best is to wash your hands social distance and let er Rip.

Fraudulent WHO say lockdown s are not the Answer. Head WHO man say Sorry About That we will do better on next China caused Pandemic.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2571673]Here is the list of approved hotels. Be aware that the prices quoted on this site are about one-third cheaper on Agoda.

[URL]https://asq.in.th/phuket-sandbox-hotels[/URL][/QUOTE]If the ASQ is only 1/3 more then that is pretty good. Remember the ASQ hotel also covers your food for the quarantine period as well as your COVID testing and, God forbid, your ambulance to the hospital.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2571680]How could things have gone wrong so quickly?[/QUOTE]

I haven't looked into this much and one of the online doctors can correct me but it seems like even the mRNA vaccines aren't super effective at preventing even vaccinated people from getting the Delta Variant. What the mRNA vaccines do is prevent severe cases and hospitalization/death.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2571830]
I haven't looked into this much and one of the online doctors can correct me but it seems like even the mRNA vaccines aren't super effective at preventing even vaccinated people from getting the Delta Variant. What the mRNA vaccines do is prevent severe cases and hospitalization/death.[/QUOTE]Not enough data yet to say for sure what the % of vaccinated people getting Delta covid is. But despite the increased number of people testing positive in the UK, the deaths from covid have not started trending up as in previous waves. Maybe to early to tell if this will hold.

I thought asq hotels in Phuket were just hotels you had to stay at but could leave. Like you could go out and about but had to return at night. I thought they were very different then asq hotels in Bangkok. So they didn't cover food or things like that. I'm asking not saying.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2571830]If the ASQ is only 1/3 more then that is pretty good. Remember the ASQ hotel also covers your food for the quarantine period as well as your COVID testing and, God forbid, your ambulance to the hospital..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horatio;2571881]I thought asq hotels in Phuket were just hotels you had to stay at but could leave. Like you could go out and about but had to return at night. I thought they were very different then asq hotels in Bangkok. So they didn't cover food or things like that. I'm asking not saying.[/QUOTE]Based 30 minutes of net surfing, I think you are right. That's the concept of the "Sandbox". You don't need an ASQ hotel for Phuket sandbox. You do need an "SHA Plus+" hotel, which is some sort of cleaning and disinfecting standard.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2571881]I thought asq hotels in Phuket were just hotels you had to stay at but could leave. Like you could go out and about but had to return at night. I thought they were very different then asq hotels in Bangkok. So they didn't cover food or things like that. I'm asking not saying.[/QUOTE]Understood. I have done little research on Phuket. When it actually starts to happen I will research.

The 'ankle bracelet' tracking device is a deal killer for me. I'm not a crook.

I believe the hotels are a hybrid between ASQ and normal hotels.

Days 1 to 3: You must stay at hotel, but they can leave rooms and use the facilities and services at the accommodation.

Days 4 to 7: Can go to specified destinations on Koh Samui.

Days 8 to 14: Can go to Koh Phangan and Koh Tao.

Day 15: Can leave Phuket and are a free man to travel through Thailand.

[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2571975]I believe the hotels are a hybrid between ASQ and normal hotels.

Days 1 to 3: You must stay at hotel, but they can leave rooms and use the facilities and services at the accommodation.

Days 4 to 7: Can go to specified destinations on Koh Samui.

Days 8 to 14: Can go to Koh Phangan and Koh Tao.

Day 15: Can leave Phuket and are a free man to travel through Thailand.[/QUOTE]Of course insert Phuket for Samui locations. I saw the issue as posting but can't edit due to my lowly non senior status.

(old account bubba boy. With over 1000 posts. I swear!

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2571951]Understood. I have done little research on Phuket. When it actually starts to happen I will research.

The 'ankle bracelet' tracking device is a deal killer for me. I'm not a crook.[/QUOTE]I suspect that the ankle bracelets don't exist in quantity yet.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2571830]If the ASQ is only 1/3 more then that is pretty good. Remember the ASQ hotel also covers your food for the quarantine period as well as your COVID testing and, God forbid, your ambulance to the hospital.



I haven't looked into this much and one of the online doctors can correct me but it seems like even the mRNA vaccines aren't super effective at preventing even vaccinated people from getting the Delta Variant. What the mRNA vaccines do is prevent severe cases and hospitalization/death.[/QUOTE]I reread your original post and realised that you wanted the list of countries and there covid rating by TH: Here it is, [URL]https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism/list-of-countries-by-covid-19-risk-level-classified-by-thailands-ddc[/URL].

Also in response to your current post, the prices are about 1/3rd cheaper on Agoda and relates to hotels in the sandbox scheme which you will NOT be confined to 24/7. Thus you can leave and eat outdoors.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2572365]I suspect that the ankle bracelets don't exist in quantity yet.[/QUOTE]I am not sure that ankle bracelets are required. My understanding is that you need a mobile phone with a downloaded QR code so that they can do a "track and trace" on you if necessary.

Anybody currently in Phuket that can update me with the reopening of the bars, I would be grateful. Are they open yet / Will they open on Jul 1st?

I've read elsewhere that the gov is stopping bars from opening at present because alcohol increases the carelessness likely to lead to CV.

Thanks in advance.

I'm not in Phuket. But the bars are not open now. Restaurants either can now or will soon be able to serve alcohol. Gyms can open now or will soon be able too. The thaiger on YouTube is a good source of information. It reports the govt plans but with a bit of scepticism. That's where I got my information.

Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2572571]Anybody currently in Phuket that can update me with the reopening of the bars, I would be grateful. Are they open yet / Will they open on Jul 1st?

I've read elsewhere that the gov is stopping bars from opening at present because alcohol increases the carelessness likely to lead to CV.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

They seem to be a little slow with finalizing / disseminating the information down to the embassies. Thai Embassy in London has received no details.

I've booked some flights, an SHA+ hotel and thrown in a hail-mary COE application, 'breaking' the online application portal somewhat in the process.

If I have to re-arrange (I'm off work for the rest of the year), it'll cost me a couple of quid. Be interesting to be among the first boots on the ground 1st of July, if it all comes off.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2572620]I'm not in Phuket. But the bars are not open now. Restaurants either can now or will soon be able to serve alcohol. Gyms can open now or will soon be able too. The thaiger on YouTube is a good source of information. It reports the govt plans but with a bit of scepticism. That's where I got my information.

Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I thought that was likely.

Just seen some potentially bad news on the BKK Post as follows: [URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2138199/ironing-out-glitches-in-the-sandbox[/URL].

It appears that the health authorities are not happy at the prospect of of entertaining locals in our approved hotels. So basically, if that is going to be the rule, it's still a 14 day "poison ivy" lockdown where you can look but you'd better not touch.

I think my plans have just gone into hold mode.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2572853]Thanks. I thought that was likely.

Just seen some potentially bad news on the BKK Post as follows: [URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2138199/ironing-out-glitches-in-the-sandbox[/URL].

It appears that the health authorities are not happy at the prospect of of entertaining locals in our approved hotels. So basically, if that is going to be the rule, it's still a 14 day "poison ivy" lockdown where you can look but you'd better not touch.

I think my plans have just gone into hold mode.[/QUOTE]I want in too.

But no way with all the paperwork and then quarantine.

Once in what's there to do?

The girls are growing rice and tending to their Buffaloes.

We are the dirty foreigners,. They don't want any part of us right now.

Chill people.

COE application website has updated, showing a message that COE applications for the Phuket Sandbox will start on Monday, 12 pm Thai time.

I have flexible flights and SHA+ booking, covid test booked the day before flying to give me a couple days flexibility.

All very touch and go, but if it's a possibility, I'm going. I've spent too long trapped either at sea or on this dull and miserable little island. I'll update you guys with boots on the ground.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2572853]Just seen some potentially bad news on the BKK Post as follows: [URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2138199/ironing-out-glitches-in-the-sandbox[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting that good information, although I read the Bangkok Post, sometimes I miss important things. The potential rule against tourists and locals sharing a hotel room is a show stopper for many of us.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2572901]Thanks for posting that good information, although I read the Bangkok Post, sometimes I miss important things. The potential rule against tourists and locals sharing a hotel room is a show stopper for many of us.[/QUOTE]I've seen things talking about that being a rumour / misunderstanding.

I sure hope it is. I've got about 20 girls on the hook. Some real stunners and not offered over 1500 baht. Never been to Thailand, my research is telling me that's cheap for the quality of girl.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2573018]I've seen things talking about that being a rumour / misunderstanding.

I sure hope it is. I've got about 20 girls on the hook. Some real stunners and not offered over 1500 baht. Never been to Thailand, my research is telling me that's cheap for the quality of girl.[/QUOTE]I will give in. 1,500 baht may or may not be appropriate.

Show pictures, we can all chime in.

A True Stunner, one that Thai elite go for is nowhere near 1.5 k.

A Stunner found in a Beer Bar by an old German- definitely 1.5 is OK.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2572838]They seem to be a little slow with finalizing / disseminating the information down to the embassies. Thai Embassy in London has received no details.

I've booked some flights, an SHA+ hotel and thrown in a hail-mary COE application, 'breaking' the online application portal somewhat in the process.

If I have to re-arrange (I'm off work for the rest of the year), it'll cost me a couple of quid. Be interesting to be among the first boots on the ground 1st of July, if it all comes off.[/QUOTE]Though I am in Dublin, there is no Thai Consul here and we need to also use the London Embassy. I received a similar reply to yours. I read somewhere, probably BKK Post, that Thai gov needs to amend the current legislation to make it happen. That might explain the replies we got.

Just read this. [URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2137163/rules-for-arrivals-in-phuket[/URL].

Problem for me is that I can't book a ticket on Thai airways commencing in DUB. I would need to book separate tickets for each leg. Years ago, I was only too happy to book separate flights because I could often save €50 +, but since I moved to Ireland, I've missed three connections to SEA, two of which were bought on multi-tickets. On all three flights, I was stuck in London for the night, and on the two with separate tickets, the rules did not let me claim compensation.

I think I might postpone booking any tickets until I can book a complete itinerary ticket.

BTW, I notice that the BKK post article was based on a statement by the Phuket Governor, and it makes no mention of accommodating overnight guests. An oversight? What do you think? I'm guessing that in a previous life he may have been a doorman at a Patpong scam joint who "forgot" to mention that there are "no beautiful ladies upstairs".

Just read this: [URL]https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism/must-you-be-married-to-share-a-room-in-the-phuket-sandbox[/URL].

Anyone recall that US TV comedy series "Soap". At the end of the introductory credits which gave an update of previous episodes, a voiceover said, "Confused? You will be"! And so I am.

There is even a suggestion that if you bring your long-term Farang partner with whom you've had a couple of children, you may be obliged to to use separate rooms because you are not married for the first 14 days.

I think TH needs to add a new subject to it's Educational Subjects: Joined up thinking.

Is the sandbox going to be a success or failure? Will tourists come back? I think I read that Phuket wants 1500 tourists a day. I think the rules they have set up are ridiculous. It seems they want tourist money but don't want tourists. I predict it's a failure. It will take a couple months for Thailand to say that then a few months to change, then that won't be anything good either. My prediction is Thailand gives up and let's people in sometime next year. Until then Thailand stays dead. Treating tourists like they are on parole isn't what tourists want.

What's your prediction?

[QUOTE=Horatio;2573479]Is the sandbox going to be a success or failure? Will tourists come back? I think I read that Phuket wants 1500 tourists a day. I think the rules they have set up are ridiculous. It seems they want tourist money but don't want tourists. I predict it's a failure. It will take a couple months for Thailand to say that then a few months to change, then that won't be anything good either. My prediction is Thailand gives up and let's people in sometime next year. Until then Thailand stays dead. Treating tourists like they are on parole isn't what tourists want.

What's your prediction?[/QUOTE]I think they open up when neighbors open, sin, hkg, Japan, etc.

All this we will let tourist in is just to give poor people hope so they don't Riot.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2573479]Is the sandbox going to be a success or failure? Will tourists come back? I think I read that Phuket wants 1500 tourists a day. I think the rules they have set up are ridiculous. It seems they want tourist money but don't want tourists. I predict it's a failure. It will take a couple months for Thailand to say that then a few months to change, then that won't be anything good either. My prediction is Thailand gives up and let's people in sometime next year. Until then Thailand stays dead. Treating tourists like they are on parole isn't what tourists want.

What's your prediction?[/QUOTE]I think the success or failure will depend on what is finally decided about the "overnight guest" policy. It seems that these have yet to be clarified. But if there is a ban on this, effectively we will become like children looking into a toy shop window. What's the point of going on holiday if your options are, 14 days hotel quarantine or 14 days window shopping?

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2573484]I think they open up when neighbors open, sin, hkg, Japan, etc.

All this we will let tourist in is just to give poor people hope so they don't Riot.[/QUOTE]Not sure about the potential for riots. In a survey in today's BKK post, many are concerned that plans to reopen the entire country in 120 days time, represent s serious risk.

[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2139239/most-think-reopening-the-country-in-120-days-not-feasible-poll[/URL]

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2573055]I will give in. 1,500 baht may or may not be appropriate.

Show pictures, we can all chime in.

A True Stunner, one that Thai elite go for is nowhere near 1.5 k.

A Stunner found in a Beer Bar by an old German- definitely 1.5 is OK.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. Never been to Thailand, but my tastes are pretty varied. Ranging from 'sweet' little spinner to trashy and fake 'Insta-ho' style girl, taking a detour through MILFy types. Only going from Tinder, TF and Instagram so the reality could be different in person. And most of them will probably flake. Such is life.

In other news, I have my Shaba hotel QR code thingy. I booked the room for two guests, was asked for the details of the second guest and replied 'Booked for two in case I want to bring back an overnight visitor. ' Nothing was said.

Suck it and see. Not convinced I'll actually be flying on Wednesday.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2573479]Is the sandbox going to be a success or failure? Will tourists come back? …

What's your prediction?[/QUOTE]It's going to be a slow start for various reasons. Too much rain now in Thailand and better weather in other places. Visitors don't want to be there until the tourism support businesses are well operational. Thai government has made too many flip-flops and tourists worry about what is next. Too many restrictions now, will take time to relax. I don't think vaccinated tourists will cause COVID to increase.

My prediction is Phuket tourism will not be solid until January 2022 or later.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2573479]Is the sandbox going to be a success or failure? Will tourists come back?
What's your prediction?[/QUOTE]The covid numbers are not looking good in Thailand. If the numbers continue to increase then the Phuket sandbox will either be postponed, or if it continues you will be stuck in Phuket and not allowed to visit other parts of Thailand without a second quarantine. I was hoping to visit Thailand in either October or January. The current situation is very disturbing.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2573717]It's going to be a slow start for various reasons. Too much rain now in Thailand and better weather in other places. Visitors don't want to be there until the tourism support businesses are well operational. Thai government has made too many flip-flops and tourists worry about what is next. Too many restrictions now, will take time to relax. I don't think vaccinated tourists will cause COVID to increase.

My prediction is Phuket tourism will not be solid until January 2022 or later.[/QUOTE]There are 2 types of punters waiting on the sidelines for the green light to enter LOS. The 1st group of punters have Thai girlfriends so they are jumpin' at the bit and will be among the first to return and they do not care too much if the bars reopen or not. These guys will gladly do the 14 day Phuket sandbox (no hotel quarantine) and fly their girls in to keep them company. It will be real good for them. The beaches will be near empty and all for them. Very romantic! The hotels will have bargain rates and low quest numbers. Nice! And after the 14 day requirement is met, they will be able to go anywhere they want in Thailand with their girlfriends.

The 2nd group of punters are guys like myself. We may still have a few favorite girls, but the only reason I would return to Thailand is to enjoy the nightlife scene, hook up with a lot of new girls, 2 per day is my usual, and have a great time like in pre-Covid days when BKK and Pattaya were party centers. So a sandbox is not good enough for us if most of the bars and Go Go's are closed. I have a few reservations with BKK and Pattaya hotels set for April / May 2022. I can cancel at any time without penalty. Hopefully, things will be much improved by spring 2022, but who the fuck knows. The lockdown has gone on too long and has devastated the P4 P industry in Thailand. I don't know if Nana, Patpong, or Walking Street Pattaya will ever return to their former glory or more likely how long it will take the industry to get back to normal. But I know this: I won't step foot in Thailand until I hear that at least 65% of bars, Go Go's, nightclubs, and brothels are back up and running at pre-Covid levels.

Fortunately there are alternatives outside of Thailand & SE Asia with smokin' hot girls and a vibrant nightlife scene. I do miss Thailand, but I am currently not missing out on a damn thing. Read other parts of this forum to see what I am talking about.

It's more then just punters. Will families want to go if they have to wear an ankle bracelet? How does that work at beach? Are most people going to accept multiple covid tests? Are families going to accept the uncertainty and constant changes on what is acceptable? I'm not a big monger, just a bit here and there. I just liked living in Thailand. But it seems like Thailand wants much less freedom and I don't think that's acceptable to almost any tourist who wants a fun carefree vacation.

It's not just the bars being closed, it's all the rules and uncertainty. I'm vaccinated let me be.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2573746]There are 2 types of punters waiting on the sidelines for the green light to enter LOS. The 1st group of punters have Thai girlfriends so they are jumpin' at the bit and will be among the first to return and they do not care too much if the bars reopen or not. These guys will gladly do the 14 day Phuket sandbox (no hotel quarantine) and fly their girls in to keep them company. It will be real good for them. The beaches will be near empty and all for them. Very romantic! The hotels will have bargain rates and low quest numbers. Nice! And after the 14 day requirement is met, they will be able to go anywhere they want in Thailand with their girlfriends.

The 2nd group of punters are guys like myself. We may still have a few favorite girls, but the only reason I would return to Thailand is to enjoy the nightlife scene, hook up with a lot of new girls, 2 per day is my usual, and have a great time like in pre-Covid days when BKK and Pattaya were party centers. So a sandbox is not good enough for us if most of the bars and Go Go's are closed. I have a few reservations with BKK and Pattaya hotels set for April / May 2022. I can cancel at any time without penalty. Hopefully, things will be much improved by spring 2022, but who the fuck knows.[/QUOTE]

Maybe you can update us on the first categories where western or Asian men invite their Thai girlfriends to stay with them in Phuket during the sand box experiment. I was under the impression that the authorities would only allow married couples to stay in Phuket together during the 14 day quarantine time. I recall some discussion about this qualification last week but perhaps something has changed. Also, you better be sure that this Thai GF is someone you want stay with 24/7 for two weeks.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2573746]There are 2 types of punters waiting on the sidelines for the green light to enter LOS. The 1st group of punters have Thai girlfriends so they are jumpin' at the bit and will be among the first to return and they do not care too much if the bars reopen or not. These guys will gladly do the 14 day Phuket sandbox (no hotel quarantine) and fly their girls in to keep them company. It will be real good for them. The beaches will be near empty and all for them. Very romantic! The hotels will have bargain rates and low quest numbers. Nice! And after the 14 day requirement is met, they will be able to go anywhere they want in Thailand with their girlfriends.

The 2nd group of punters are guys like myself. We may still have a few favorite girls, but the only reason I would return to Thailand is to enjoy the nightlife scene, hook up with a lot of new girls, 2 per day is my usual, and have a great time like in pre-Covid days when BKK and Pattaya were party centers. So a sandbox is not good enough for us if most of the bars and Go Go's are closed. I have a few reservations with BKK and Pattaya hotels set for April / May 2022. I can cancel at any time without penalty. Hopefully, things will be much improved by spring 2022, but who the fuck knows. The lockdown has gone on too long and has devastated the P4 P industry in Thailand. I don't know if Nana, Patpong, or Walking Street Pattaya will ever return to their former glory or more likely how long it will take the industry to get back to normal. But I know this: I won't step foot in Thailand until I hear that at least 65% of bars, Go Go's, nightclubs, and brothels are back up and running at pre-Covid levels.

Fortunately there are alternatives outside of Thailand & SE Asia with smokin' hot girls and a vibrant nightlife scene. I do miss Thailand, but I am currently not missing out on a damn thing. Read other parts of this forum to see what I am talking about.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2573890]Maybe you can update us on the first categories where western or Asian men invite their Thai girlfriends to stay with them in Phuket during the sand box experiment. I was under the impression that the authorities would only allow married couples to stay in Phuket together during the 14 day quarantine time. I recall some discussion about this qualification last week but perhaps something has changed. Also, you better be sure that this Thai GF is someone you want stay with 24/7 for two weeks.[/QUOTE]Virtual signaling by Thais.

Command center has been set up by Thai Seal Team Hok in Phuket to watch over Dirty Foreigners.

The idea is to quarantine not have Fun with Bargirls.

While hardly surprising to the old hands here. And I was half-expecting it myself, the whole sandbox thing has turned into a cluster-fuck. Constantly changing requirements. Every single person trying to get there is playing COE ping-pong with their respective embassies. Rejected for one thing, fix that thing, re-submit, get rejected for another.

I'm more than likely going to lose a little bit of money on this. Fortunately, an insignificant amount. Now looking for alternative destinations (I have a pre-flight covid test this morning). Mexico is looking like the most attractive option currently!

Just seen this: [URL]https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thailand-news-today-phuket-sandbox-no-money-no-honey-no-gdp-june-29[/URL].

Apparently, (at about 6 minutes in), Embassies issuing COE's will only do so if you have booked your hotel on SHA website. Same rooms advertised on Agoda are about 30% cheaper, but they will not accept proof of bookings from this source. Combine that with the fact that you can only use the sandbox scheme if you arrive on Thai Airways, and it looks like whatever you want to do, ypu will always have to choose the more expensive Thai option.

I am going to start looking for an alternative to Phuket.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2574489]Just seen this: [URL]https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thailand-news-today-phuket-sandbox-no-money-no-honey-no-gdp-june-29[/URL].

Apparently, (at about 6 minutes in), Embassies issuing COE's will only do so if you have booked your hotel on SHA website. Same rooms advertised on Agoda are about 30% cheaper, but they will not accept proof of bookings from this source. Combine that with the fact that you can only use the sandbox scheme if you arrive on Thai Airways, and it looks like whatever you want to do, ypu will always have to choose the more expensive Thai option.

I am going to start looking for an alternative to Phuket.[/QUOTE]Those Spacesuits Somchai has to wear to bring you your morning toast don't come cheap.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2574489]Just seen this: [URL]https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thailand-news-today-phuket-sandbox-no-money-no-honey-no-gdp-june-29[/URL].

Apparently, (at about 6 minutes in), Embassies issuing COE's will only do so if you have booked your hotel on SHA website. Same rooms advertised on Agoda are about 30% cheaper, but they will not accept proof of bookings from this source. Combine that with the fact that you can only use the sandbox scheme if you arrive on Thai Airways, and it looks like whatever you want to do, ypu will always have to choose the more expensive Thai option.

I am going to start looking for an alternative to Phuket.[/QUOTE]I booked my hotel direct. I'm also flying Qatar Airways.

Had my COE approved this morning by the London Embassy.

Nobody, especially the embassies, seems to know the rules the Sandbox is operating under. Your COE application getting approved comes down to who is approving it and what they've read on Facebook!

This should be. Interesting.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2574361]Now looking for alternative destinations (I have a pre-flight covid test this morning). Mexico is looking like the most attractive option currently![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Dublin12;2574489]I am going to start looking for an alternative to Phuket.[/QUOTE]Guys, this is what I am talking about. Forget Thailand. The Thailand we all knew and loved is gone and it is anybody's guess when or even if it will ever return. But here is the good news: there are countries with smokin' hot girls providing better sex at cheaper prices than LOS pre-Covid. It took a worldwide pandemic to open my eyes to the alternative possibilities because I was so enthralled with Thai girls and the Thai nightlife scene and other SE Asian hot spots as well. But I have just returned (less than 30 days ago) from a 5 week trip to South America and I can tell you that it is real good down there. So do some research, RTFF, then get off your asses and book a flight to Colombia or Brazil. I guarantee you that you won't give a shit about sand box Thailand after a trip to SA.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2574546]Guys, this is what I am talking about. Forget Thailand. The Thailand we all knew and loved is gone and it is anybody's guess when or even if it will ever return. But here is the good news: there are countries with smokin' hot girls providing better sex at cheaper prices than LOS pre-Covid. It took a worldwide pandemic to open my eyes to the alternative possibilities because I was so enthralled with Thai girls and the Thai nightlife scene and other SE Asian hot spots as well. But I have just returned (less than 30 days ago) from a 5 week trip to South America and I can tell you that it is real good down there. So do some research, RTFF, then get off your asses and book a flight to Colombia or Brazil. I guarantee you that you won't give a shit about sand box Thailand after a trip to SA.[/QUOTE]I took a long hard look at Colombia, and the the CV rates doubled in six weeks. Brazil is just as bad. CR is relatively easy to enter, but the mandatory insurance cover is ridiculously expensive and is about 3 times the price of the Thai product, and then you only get about 1/3rd of the cover. I do get the impression that there are backhanders involved in the mandated spend wherever you see it.

Just need to keep looking. I think vax passports will be be a gamechanger.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2574522]I booked my hotel direct. I'm also flying Qatar Airways.

Had my COE approved this morning by the London Embassy.

Nobody, especially the embassies, seems to know the rules the Sandbox is operating under. Your COE application getting approved comes down to who is approving it and what they've read on Facebook!

This should be. Interesting.[/QUOTE]Living in Ireland, I am covered by the London Embassy. I hope it all works out for you, and please let us know how you get on? Right now, I'm worried on your behalf that some jobsworth is going to say, "Welcome to Phuket. Why didn't you use Thai Airways. I sentence you to 14 days quarantine". Of course, why should it make you any greater a risk flying on Qatar? Flying in from LHR on Thai, I think represents a much more serious risk. Infections from there have increased by over 1000% in the past two months.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2574696]I took a long hard look at Colombia, and the the CV rates doubled in six weeks. Brazil is just as bad. CR is relatively easy to enter, but the mandatory insurance cover is ridiculously expensive and is about 3 times the price of the Thai product, and then you only get about 1/3rd of the cover. I do get the impression that there are backhanders involved in the mandated spend wherever you see it.

Just need to keep looking. I think vax passports will be be a gamechanger.[/QUOTE]Hey Dublin12,

I think you should do whatever you think is best. I do not know anything about your personal medical history or which vaccine if any you have taken. In addition I am not from Ireland and therefore I am not up to date on the progress of your country's vaccine rollout, but I do understand that as of a month ago Pfizer was in the rollout lead in Ireland followed by the AstraZeneca and in 3rd place the Moderna vaccine.

First and foremost I suggest that everyone consult their own physicians and or at a minimum seek out the raw unbiased medical data before deciding to monger or not in a foreign country.

I received my 1st dose of the Moderna vaccine in early February 2021 and the 2nd dose at the appropriate interval. The data and my doctor said I was good to go so I went. And I can only report on my own experience which may or may not be relevant to fellow BM's.

I travelled to RJ on Easter Weekend at the height of the Brazilian variant surge. RJ was initially in shut down mode. Then I flew to SP for 14 days 10 0 f which were during the Code Red total lockdown in that city. I exchanged bodily fluids with Brazilian hookers every day during this period which included heavy duty DFK sessions and cunnilingus (much of the time) and nothing adverse happened. There are only two conclusions to be drawn from my anecdotal report: either I was extremely lucky, or the Moderna Vaccine REALLY works. I believe it is the latter, but like I said earlier, everyone should do whatever they are most comfortable with, and what they think is best for them.

I had such a goodtime that I am going back to Brazil in October for a 2nd helping. I booked my new flight only 4 days after I had returned to Florida. Ha Ha. Meanwhile I have some hotel reservations in BKK & Pattaya slated for April 2022. I made these reservations to lock in all-time low rates and because canceling these reservations will cost me nothing. But will I actually go to Thailand in April? I do not know. It depends on whether the Thai Government really rolls out the welcome mat with no strings attached and equally important what the state of the BKK and Pattaya nightlife scene is in January. January is my cut off date to decide. So, if the Thai nightlife scene is still languishing, I will go to Brazil a 3rd time or Colombia in April and be more than 100% ok with that.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2574743]Hey Dublin12,

I think you should do whatever you think is best. I do not know anything about your personal medical history or which vaccine if any you have taken. In addition I am not from Ireland and therefore I am not up to date on the progress of your country's vaccine rollout, but I do understand that as of a month ago Pfizer was in the rollout lead in Ireland followed by the AstraZeneca and in 3rd place the Moderna vaccine.

First and foremost I suggest that everyone consult their own physicians and or at a minimum seek out the raw unbiased medical data before deciding to monger or not in a foreign country.

I received my 1st dose of the Moderna vaccine in early February 2021 and the 2nd dose at the appropriate interval. The data and my doctor said I was good to go so I went. And I can only report on my own experience which may or may not be relevant to fellow BM's.

I travelled to RJ on Easter Weekend at the height of the Brazilian variant surge. RJ was initially in shut down mode. Then I flew to SP for 14 days 10 0 f which were during the Code Red total lockdown in that city. I exchanged bodily fluids with Brazilian hookers every day during this period which included heavy duty DFK sessions and cunnilingus (much of the time) and nothing adverse happened. There are only two conclusions to be drawn from my anecdotal report: either I was extremely lucky, or the Moderna Vaccine REALLY works. I believe it is the latter, but like I said earlier, everyone should do whatever they are most comfortable with, and what they think is best for them.

I had such a goodtime that I am going back to Brazil in October for a 2nd helping. I booked my new flight only 4 days after I had returned to Florida. Ha Ha. Meanwhile I have some hotel reservations in BKK & Pattaya slated for April 2022. I made these reservations to lock in all-time low rates and because canceling these reservations will cost me nothing. But will I actually go to Thailand in April? I do not know. It depends on whether the Thai Government really rolls out the welcome mat with no strings attached and equally important what the state of the BKK and Pattaya nightlife scene is in January. January is my cut off date to decide. So, if the Thai nightlife scene is still languishing, I will go to Brazil a 3rd time or Colombia in April and be more than 100% ok with that.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that.

I am due my second jab tomorrow (AZ) and it's not really the fear of infection that gives me any worries. If I am going somewhere, I don't want to do the quarantine. When I go, I can do four weeks, but who wants to spend half that time in quarantine. More to the point, statistically, the situation in Brazil and Colombia is so bad, that I think in due course, the procedure for "red listing" countries will be more stats based. That being the case, it would not surprise me to read in the near future, that travel restrictions have eased, but if you go to specified countries, you will still need to go into quarantine on return.

Just looking at the current figures, Brazil's infection rate is 4 x that of Ireland and Colombia is at 8 x. The UK considers Thailand "high risk", whereas the Thais consider the UK medium. The UK infection rate is 4 x that of Thailand. Germany wants to discourage travel with the UK in both directions. The UK rate is 35 x that of Germany.

But as far as TH is concerned, the info that is coming out of there is clearly insufficient. What happens if you arrive on a Qatari Airline. What happens if you book your room through Agoda. Can you have overnight guests? From what I've read so far, it seems that though there is no increased risk from the first two if you do not comply, you are likely to be quarantined, and there have been indications that even if you, "bring your own bottle" to the party, you may not be allowed to drink from it if you are not married.

But my reasons for being cautious are simply due to concerns that I am going to end up in some form of quarantine which has yet to be announced. I was in Pattaya when this all kicked off last year, and though I tried to tough it out, I lasted seven days after all the bars closed and that was bad enough.

Let the Phuket Sandbox Sh*t storm begin!

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2574826]But my reasons for being cautious are simply due to concerns that I am going to end up in some form of quarantine which has yet to be announced. I was in Pattaya when this all kicked off last year, and though I tried to tough it out, I lasted seven days after all the bars closed and that was bad enough.[/QUOTE]I second Natty's sentiments wholeheartedly. Never thought I'd find another mongering destination like Thailand. But I did, even better, in Brazil. It's cheaper, women are just as beautiful. GFE and MSOG are standard in massage shops (which have beautiful women).

You're worrying about "some form of quarantine which has yet to be announced". In other words, fear of the unknown. My only recommendation is to make decisions based on what you know, not what you don't. I doubt governments will require quarantine for those that are vaccinated. That would be tantamount to acknowledging that vaccines don't work.

Natty went during the first peak of Covid in Brazil. After reading his posts, I booked my trip (trends were going down). But when I landed, trends were going up again and reached the second peak during my stay. I had my 2 shots of Pfizer before taking my trip. I'm sure I was exposed to Covid while I was mongering almost every day I was there. And the vaccine did its job. Travel warning level against Brazil is level 4 (highest). I had no issues coming back.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2574546]...So do some research, RTFF, then get off your asses and book a flight to Colombia or Brazil. I guarantee you that you won't give a shit about sand box Thailand after a trip to SA.[/QUOTE]I just came back from a 2-week mongering trip in Colombia. No issues whatsoever. I was able to pass the antigen test and return the US.

I also did a similar trip back in March, after getting my 2nd dose of the Moderna vaccine. Colombia no longer requires a PCR test for entry.

[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2574898]Let the Phuket Sandbox Sh*t storm begin![/QUOTE]Sat in a bus on the way to my hotel in Patong.

The shambles it's been, actually just getting into the country is a win for me.

Writing this from my hotel room in Phuket.

Actual process of getting here after the dystopian nightmare of the application, went pretty much without a hitch.

My two biggest hiccups thus far are, in order of increasing severity.

My hotel is no longer girl friendly. They want a 500 baht joiner fee per girl. I've resigned myself to spending an extra couple of hundred quid while I'm here. Contemplating asking for a discount for quantity. Though, as I did book for two, they have said I can book a girl in with me for the two weeks for free. Anybody know any depraved and wanton fully bisexual nymphets who can hold a decent conversation in Phuket?

Biggest problem. On arrival covid test. I can't leave this hotel room before the results come back, or have visitors. I was thinking of sacking it off and sneaking out / sneaking a girl in, but I spotted the Thai rozzers doing a walk around with the manager and it's put the wind up me.

It's one thing being 7000 miles away from all this easily available pussy. It's quite another being 3 miles from it.

Hopefully, the result will come in late tonight or early tomorrow. From what I've seen, the actual boots on the ground implementing the plan have been given a lot of latitude to smooth things over, overlook little irregularities, and put in overtime to get the sandbox off to a good start.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2575192]Writing this from my hotel room in Phuket.[/QUOTE]Great report, thanks! Please keep us posted as your adventure into this uncharted time continues.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2575222]Great report, thanks! Please keep us posted as your adventure into this uncharted time continues.[/QUOTE]PCR result back in under 8 hours, got a girl coming over now haha.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2575133]I second Natty's sentiments wholeheartedly. Never thought I'd find another mongering destination like Thailand. But I did, even better, in Brazil. It's cheaper, women are just as beautiful. GFE and MSOG are standard in massage shops (which have beautiful women).

You're worrying about "some form of quarantine which has yet to be announced". In other words, fear of the unknown. My only recommendation is to make decisions based on what you know, not what you don't. I doubt governments will require quarantine for those that are vaccinated. That would be tantamount to acknowledging that vaccines don't work.

Natty went during the first peak of Covid in Brazil. After reading his posts, I booked my trip (trends were going down). But when I landed, trends were going up again and reached the second peak during my stay. I had my 2 shots of Pfizer before taking my trip. I'm sure I was exposed to Covid while I was mongering almost every day I was there. And the vaccine did its job. Travel warning level against Brazil is level 4 (highest). I had no issues coming back.[/QUOTE]It's not "fear of the unknown". It's about risk assessment. I've read the sandbox rules, and see that I must use Thai Airlines only from a few designated airports. Yet the post I was responding too, is arriving by Qatar Airways. The Hotels being advertised on the SHA are also being advertised on sites like Agoda as compliant. Again, the Sandbox rules are that the rooms must be booked through SHA. Then there is the question about bars being open. Nothing said so far. Finally, overnight guests. It appears that only married couples will be allowed to share a room, and has anyone noticed that they are in no apparent hurry to clarify this even though they will be aware that this the main reason why most of us will want to go there?

Think about it, Will someone need to lockdown fir 14 days because they arrived on KLM? Will your hotel booking be invalidated because you didn't book with SHA, and might you then be taken to the same hotel you booked on say Agoda, and have to pay again and maybe 50%? Obviously, the rules are there and and you flaunt them at your own risk. I've calculated that I will save about €700 if I don't fly Thai and use Agoda, and that is potentially a false economy. But when you ask questions like whether you will be allowed to accommodate guests in your room, or will the bars be open, and nobody wants to answer the question, how can you assess that risk? All in all, can you not see the potential for some new rules that have yet to be announced?

Basically, on what we know so far, Thailand is a pig in a poke. If I've got four weeks, I don't want to spend two of them living like an abstemious monk.

Brazil and Colombia were attractive options, but there is now civil unrest in both countries. Notwithstanding the issues over health insurance, it's difficult to see how you can get any cover for either of those when the Irish gov website is saying "don't go". That might change after July 19th, as the gov is hinting that those who have been vaxxed, will have freedom to travel anywhere. I just got my second today.

Right now though, Thailand looks of case "Pleases sign the contract, and we will write the agreement after you've paid your money".

[QUOTE=JJanni;2575192]Writing this from my hotel room in Phuket.

Actual process of getting here after the dystopian nightmare of the application, went pretty much without a hitch.

My two biggest hiccups thus far are, in order of increasing severity.

My hotel is no longer girl friendly. They want a 500 baht joiner fee per girl. I've resigned myself to spending an extra couple of hundred quid while I'm here. Contemplating asking for a discount for quantity. Though, as I did book for two, they have said I can book a girl in with me for the two weeks for free. Anybody know any depraved and wanton fully bisexual nymphets who can hold a decent conversation in Phuket?

Biggest problem. On arrival covid test. I can't leave this hotel room before the results come back, or have visitors. I was thinking of sacking it off and sneaking out / sneaking a girl in, but I spotted the Thai rozzers doing a walk around with the manager and it's put the wind up me.

It's one thing being 7000 miles away from all this easily available pussy. It's quite another being 3 miles from it.

Hopefully, the result will come in late tonight or early tomorrow. From what I've seen, the actual boots on the ground implementing the plan have been given a lot of latitude to smooth things over, overlook little irregularities, and put in overtime to get the sandbox off to a good start.[/QUOTE]Delighted to hear that you made it. No problems coming in on Qatar Airways then? Did you see any bars open while confined to your Prison Bus?

So if I understand you correctly, I don't have to come with the wife if I want female company in the room? But I will need to pay a joiner fee. I wonder if that's universal?

Can I ask, did you book the room on the SHA site, or with a hotel booking site?

Anyway, here's hoping for a speedy lifting of Purdah for you.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2575269]It's not "fear of the unknown". It's about risk assessment.
Obviously, the rules are there and and you flaunt them at your own risk. I've calculated that I will save about 700 if I don't fly Thai and use Agoda, and that is potentially a false economy. But when you ask questions like whether you will be allowed to accommodate guests in your room, or will the bars be open, and nobody wants to answer the question, how can you assess that risk? All in all, can you not see the potential for some new rules that have yet to be announced?

Brazil and Colombia were attractive options, but there is now civil unrest in both countries. Notwithstanding the issues over health insurance, it's difficult to see how you can get any cover for either of those when the Irish gov website is saying "don't go". That might change after July 19th, as the gov is hinting that those who have been vaxxed, will have freedom to travel anywhere. I just got my second today.

Right now though, Thailand looks of case "Pleases sign the contract, and we will write the agreement after you've paid your money".[/QUOTE]This is why Natty and I are recommending Brazil / Columbia over Thailand. There are lots of variables in Thailand. The reopening program just started. I'm sure there will be lots of changes.

Brazil, on the other hand, is very open and easy to get into. I'm not sure what civil unrest you're speaking of. There was none, other than a parade of motorcyclists in support of Bolsonaro. There are also no health insurance requirements. Many have gone and are going to Brazil right now for mongering purposes. You can see all the activities on that sub (both Sao Paulo and Rio).

I am a bit skeptical of Columbia due to all the violence that happened about a month ago. But from what I hear, that seems to have died down. Not sure about health insurance requirements there, but many are speaking highly of mongering in Columbia.

You mentioned saving 700 euros if you book with certain risks. 1100 US was my mongering costs during my 2 week stay in Brazil. Hotel was less than $50/ night.

You're right. With the current uncertainties of Thailand's sandbox and mongering restrictions and activities, I wouldn't risk going there. At least until there's some positive FRs. I'm hoping they have things sorted out by Nov / Dec.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2575280]Delighted to hear that you made it. No problems coming in on Qatar Airways then? Did you see any bars open while confined to your Prison Bus?

So if I understand you correctly, I don't have to come with the wife if I want female company in the room? But I will need to pay a joiner fee. I wonder if that's universal?

Can I ask, did you book the room on the SHA site, or with a hotel booking site?

Anyway, here's hoping for a speedy lifting of Purdah for you.[/QUOTE]No problems at all with any airline. Just can't transit BKK or a high risk country.

Booked hotel direct. It was early days, so they didn't really know what they were doing with the shaba and pcr tests, but they got there in the end.

Hotel wanted to charge a joiner fee and check my guest was vaccinated. Got my test results in about midnight, got a girl here about 30 minutes later haha.

She wasn't vaccinated, but the night receptionist was amenable to my suggestion I meet her outside and don't come through reception. So no joiner fee either.

Literally the first girl to answer a video call.

Looked nothing like her pictures. To my mind, better! Very sweet 39 kg spinner. 32, saw her ID, but if she'd said 20 I would have believed her. Absolutely fucked my brains out, three times.

And in answer to your question, she says the bars aren't open.

See what tomorrow brings. Think I'm going to sort a car out and get further afield.

Excuse the crap quality of the pic, I should get a decent phone.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2575326]This is why Natty and I are recommending Brazil / Columbia over Thailand. There are lots of variables in Thailand. The reopening program just started. I'm sure there will be lots of changes.

Brazil, on the other hand, is very open and easy to get into. I'm not sure what civil unrest you're speaking of. There was none, other than a parade of motorcyclists in support of Bolsonaro. There are also no health insurance requirements. Many have gone and are going to Brazil right now for mongering purposes. You can see all the activities on that sub (both Sao Paulo and Rio).

I am a bit skeptical of Columbia due to all the violence that happened about a month ago. But from what I hear, that seems to have died down. Not sure about health insurance requirements there, but many are speaking highly of mongering in Columbia.

You mentioned saving 700 euros if you book with certain risks. 1100 US was my mongering costs during my 2 week stay in Brazil. Hotel was less than $50/ night.

You're right. With the current uncertainties of Thailand's sandbox and mongering restrictions and activities, I wouldn't risk going there. At least until there's some positive FRs. I'm hoping they have things sorted out by Nov / Dec.[/QUOTE][URL]https://theglobalamericans.org/2021/06/anti-bolsonaro-protests-shake-brazil/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JJanni;2575192]My hotel is no longer girl friendly. They want a 500 baht joiner fee per girl. [/QUOTE]No longer? That's exactly the kind of a cash grab that Phuket is infamous for. If you had an option of switching to another hotel (without losing what you paid), I bet they'd quickly become girl-friendly again. Most other places in Thailand are free of such bullshit.

I'd rather pay 500 for a short time room out of spite than give it to the greedy bastards.

I would ask if they knew of other hotels that didn't charge that fee as I was going to be in Phuket for 2 months. And after two weeks I would leave.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2575364]No longer? That's exactly the kind of a cash grab that Phuket is infamous for. If you had an option of switching to another hotel (without losing what you paid), I bet they'd quickly become girl-friendly again. Most other places in Thailand are free of such bullshit.

I'd rather pay 500 for a short time room out of spite than give it to the greedy bastards.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JJanni;2575192]My hotel is no longer girl friendly. They want a 500 baht joiner fee per girl. [/QUOTE]Did you book your room for 2 people? If not, some hotels in Thailand will ask for a joiner fee. If you booked for 2, see Croc's post.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2575329][URL]https://theglobalamericans.org/2021/06/anti-bolsonaro-protests-shake-brazil/[/URL][/QUOTE]That report was from a month ago and specifically says that Rio and SP protests were peaceful.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2575409]Did you book your room for 2 people? If not, some hotels in Thailand will ask for a joiner fee. If you booked for 2, see Croc's post.[/QUOTE]There is also a hybrid between guest friendly and not guest friendly. One of my Phuket hotels required that my guest be fully registered and given full hotel privileges for the duration of my stay (order room service, drinks at pool, laundry service etc.). This same hotel was temporary-guest friendly to a limited extent, dropping off ID at front desk and joining me in the room was fine, but she was not allowed breakfast or pool privileges. This was pre-COVID.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2575326]This is why Natty and I are recommending Brazil / Columbia over Thailand.[/QUOTE]Though I've never been to South America, my perception is that the women are larger and more aggressive. I like the small, demure Asian women and am not sure I would like the South American women. In Thailand, I can always find something non-sexual to do and have always felt safe (beaches, temples, markets, food, tours, shopping, and just wandering about), I'm not confident the same would be true for me in South America. Still, recent reports on South America have piqued my interest, it's time to look into a trip.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2575409]Did you book your room for 2 people? If not, some hotels in Thailand will ask for a joiner fee. If you booked for 2, see Croc's post.[/QUOTE]Even if we book a double room(for two) some hotels (very few) in Pattaya demands for a joiner fee 600 or 400 bath. I think it is a tourist trap. Before booking the hotel I cross check it.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2575467]Even if we book a double room(for two) some hotels (very few) in Pattaya demands for a joiner fee 600 or 400 bath. I think it is a tourist trap. Before booking the hotel I cross check it.[/QUOTE]Why quote me in your post? I never said they don't! I was just stating that some guys are not aware you have to book a room for 2, girl friendly or not!

Bit Siri.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2575446]Though I've never been to South America, my perception is that the women are larger and more aggressive. I like the small, demure Asian women and am not sure I would like the South American women. In Thailand, I can always find something non-sexual to do and have always felt safe (beaches, temples, markets, food, tours, shopping, and just wandering about), I'm not confident the same would be true for me in South America. Still, recent reports on South America have piqued my interest, it's time to look into a trip.[/QUOTE]I also never visited South America. But I had a great time with a Bogota lady in New Jersey. She was awesome. Either Madrid or straight SaoPaulo is still in my bucket list to have some fun with Latinos. I love that big structure with big round accessories.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2575471]I also never visited South America. But I had a great time with a Bogota lady in New Jersey. She was awesome. Either Madrid or straight SaoPaulo is still in my bucket list to have some fun with Latinos. I love that big structure with big round accessories.[/QUOTE]Lots of Thais have bubble butts and bubble boobs.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2575446]Though I've never been to South America, my perception is that the women are larger and more aggressive. I like the small, demure Asian women and am not sure I would like the South American women...[/QUOTE]Not true, you can find all kinds of women in South America, spinners, tall and slim, athletic type, and so on. I even had an ATF (all time favorite) girl in Colombia, who was of Japanese decent. She looked Japanese but was very much Colombian in her behavior.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2575446]...In Thailand, I can always find something non-sexual to do and have always felt safe (beaches, temples, markets, food, tours, shopping, and just wandering about), I'm not confident the same would be true for me in South America. Still, recent reports on South America have piqued my interest, it's time to look into a trip.[/QUOTE]To the contrary, there is a lot to see and do in a place like Rio or Buenos Aires. Other places that I have visited not so much.

Indeed, safety can be an issue. One has to be a lot more careful in South America than in Thailand. I am lucky in that I can blend in with the locals easily and I speak decent Spanish. I have also been to Colombia on 25+ trips, and I have taken just as many trips to Thailand and South East Asia. I have met many US expats in Colombia who have the gringo look that can be spotted a mile away, yet they still manage to practice safe behavior.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2575471]I also never visited South America. But I had a great time with a Bogota lady in New Jersey. She was awesome. Either Madrid or straight SaoPaulo is still in my bucket list to have some fun with Latinos. I love that big structure with big round accessories.[/QUOTE]I have never mongered in Madrid but did in Barcelona. My suspicion is that the 2 Spanish cities offer similar platforms for mongering, I,e, casa like services.

If that's the case, Saõ Paulo offers more and better venues. They have clinicas which are similar to casas in Spain, but they also have clubs, like Scandallo, which are far superior.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2575326]...I am a bit skeptical of Columbia due to all the violence that happened about a month ago. But from what I hear, that seems to have died down. Not sure about health insurance requirements there, but many are speaking highly of mongering in Columbia...[/QUOTE]It's spelled Colombia, with an O.

I was just there not too long ago and spent 2 weeks in Medellin. The violence was mostly in a city called Cali. I was staying in a nice part of the town called Poblado. I avoided downtown (known there as centro) completely, because there were some disturbances there. Hence I did not experience any negative fallout at all.

In regard with health insurance and other requirements, I recommend one of the Colombian ISG forums, such as Bogota, Cartagena, or Medellin.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2575446]Though I've never been to South America, my perception is that the women are larger and more aggressive. I like the small, demure Asian women and am not sure I would like the South American women. In Thailand, I can always find something non-sexual to do and have always felt safe (beaches, temples, markets, food, tours, shopping, and just wandering about), I'm not confident the same would be true for me in South America. Still, recent reports on South America have piqued my interest, it's time to look into a trip.[/QUOTE]To a very small extent, you're correct. On average, Brazilian women are bigger than Asian women. I mostly prefer Asian women, too. But my trip to SP and Rio was eye opening. There are definitely spinners and pleasers in Brazil, too. One major difference is that most Thai girls I've seen available are usually 8's. I've hardly seen 9's or 10's. But in Brazil, it is not difficult to find 9's and 10's. If you have a chance, you should definitely try Sao Paulo.

Also, you're right about other activities, especially in Sao Paulo. It is pretty safe. But outside of mongering, there's not much else to do there.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2575415]That report was from a month ago and specifically says that Rio and SP protests were peaceful.[/QUOTE]So you've gone from, "I'm not sure what civil unrest you're speaking of", to that reply. Here is a more recent report (June 20th) specific to SP. An anti-gov demonstration is by definition, civil unrest. The fact that cops are not bashing skulls in does not change that.

But here's a thought for you: President Balls-up is facing an election next year. His poll numbers are dwindling daily. There are parliamentary enquiries taking place that every day continue to embarrass him personally, and the people are demanding a lockdown in order to reduce the infections. Balls-up is an arch populist. Would you bet against him either trying to get tough with the protestors, or caving in to them with a lockdown to save himself in next years elections? And if he does nothing, would you bet against him being impeached?

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2575467]Even if we book a double room(for two) some hotels (very few) in Pattaya demands for a joiner fee 600 or 400 bath. I think it is a tourist trap. Before booking the hotel I cross check it.[/QUOTE]Based on Horse Traders report, I am beginning to think that Phuket is a very viable option. As you say, check with the hotel first.

Normally, if you go through a booking site, it is very difficult to find email addresses for the Hotel. Clearly, Agoda or whoever don't want you talking directly with them in case you cut them out. However, this time it's a lot easier. Here is a complete list of SHA hotels: [URL]https://asq.in.th/phuket-sandbox-hotels[/URL] The beauty is that you do not book from this site but you fill out an enquiry form, and they reply to you by email at which time you can then raise any questions.

Here is a copy and paste of my email to Clover Hotel in Patong:

Hi,

I have a few questions before I make a booking. Hopefully, you can help me.

Can you tell me what is your cancellation policy in case I am prevented from travelling due to new local or international restrictions?

Can you tell me what the hotel's policy is on overnight guests, as I will be booking a double room?

I have read that in order to qualify for the Sandbox scheme, I must book the room on an approved website, and not on a booking site such as Agoda. If I book with you, will Thai immigration accept the booking as valid?

Thanks and best wishes.

I received the following reply:

1. Can you tell me what is your cancellation policy in case I am prevented from travelling due to new local or international restrictions?

Answer: regarding your questing incase your COE not approve will agree to cancel your booking without charge.

2. Can you tell me what the hotel's policy is on overnight guests, as I will be booking a double room?

Answer: Incase you have friend need to share your room during stay we are agree the but kind to share name of guest to be overnight with you.

3. I have read that in order to qualify for the Sandbox scheme, I must book the room on an approved website, and not on a booking site such as Agoda. If I book with you, will Thai immigration accept the booking as valid?

Answer: the booking you can do of each channel, recommend book here should be better incase you have problem can find some solution.

That left the "joiner fee" question a bit vague so I wrote again:

Dear Kie,

Thank you for your reply. One final question please. Regarding overnight guests, do you charge "joiner fees"?

If not, I am quite happy to book and pay for the whole 27 night stay in advance.

Thanks and best wishes.

John.

Reply received:

Dear John.

Thank you for your email. Regarding Joiner they are coming together with your or separate period if they are separate period kind to inform us for they name the condition without charge.

Suddenly, Thailand looks like a "go".

All I'm waiting for now is for the Irish gov to confirm that fully vaxxed will be able to travel without restrictions, w. E. f. From July 19th, and that the bars will be open in Phuket and I will be making a booking.

Due diligence is the order of the day.

There's one bar open at the moment. Sweeties. Played some pool and got some line ids from the girls, a couple of stunning spinners and one that may be legally a midget. Tempted.

Ultimately, couldn't get the cutie with a booty out of my mind. She's coming over now to finish some unfinished business. Namely, me cumming in her arse.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2575658]There's one bar open at the moment. Sweeties. Played some pool and got some line ids from the girls, a couple of stunning spinners and one that may be legally a midget. Tempted.

Ultimately, couldn't get the cutie with a booty out of my mind. She's coming over now to finish some unfinished business. Namely, me cumming in her arse.[/QUOTE]Turns out, my earlier report didn't post.

Cute with a booty. 4'11,85 lbs, 32 but could pass for 18. First girl to respond when I got out of lockdown.

No better options for say two so I had her over again.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2575711]Turns out, my earlier report didn't post.

Cute with a booty. 4'11,85 lbs, 32 but could pass for 18. First girl to respond when I got out of lockdown.

No better options for say two so I had her over again.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Many of us will live vicariously through your text and pictures.

Did you ever get confirmation that there is no rule against tourists and locals sharing a hotel room?

[QUOTE=JJanni;2575711]Turns out, my earlier report didn't post.

Cute with a booty. 4'11,85 lbs, 32 but could pass for 18. First girl to respond when I got out of lockdown.

No better options for say two so I had her over again.[/QUOTE]Nice report. I hope we see many more (from others, too). How much did you pay her?

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2575774]Thanks! Many of us will live vicariously through your text and pictures.

Did you ever get confirmation that there is no rule against tourists and locals sharing a hotel room?[/QUOTE]My hotel said I could sign a girl in with me for two weeks for free as I'd booked for two, or else pay a 500 thb joiner fee per girl. So yes, you can definitely share with a local. When I asked the first night when cutie with a booty was on her way, they said guests would need to be fully vaccinated. CWB wasn't. I slipped the night receptionist and the security guard a couple hundred baht each and nothing has been said about me skirting reception and going straight to my room with CWB, so I think I'm golden.

Night security guard keeps giving me a grin and a thumbs up every time I pass him.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2575834]Nice report. I hope we see many more (from others, too). How much did you pay her?[/QUOTE]She actually came over with no discussion on price. First night, 'short time' she stayed for about three or four hours and only left because I was falling asleep (had only about two hours sleep in 24.) I gave her 1500 (which she was very happy with) plus 100 thb for 'taxi' (her friend on a moped.) I'd actually given up on the idea of getting out of quarantine before the next day, so I couldn't resist a wank. Despite that, she managed to get me off three times, all BBFSCIP in different positions. I didn't ask, I just went for it after giving her oral (one of my talents, if I say so myself.) Super tight, super clean and super enthusiastic. What girls in the UK would call a hybrid 'GFE / PSE', felt like just having a nympho girlfriend.

Second time, I gave her 2500 (+100) for long time. She came over at 11:30 pm, stayed till 11:30 am (despite having said she could only stay till 5:30 am.) Started off with trying anal, used a whole tube of lube (Where the fuck can I buy an actual decent sized bottle of lube in Thailand? Could only find the small tubes), got it in to the hilt but it was just hurting her too much and I think the neighbours were banging on the wall from the noise. Fucked her in the pussy instead in every position I could think of, came. After cleanup, we talked and watched TikTok videos and I saw some of her friends. One of who I've been talking to on TF and was high on my list to see (CWB, unbelievably, wasn't. Rare instance when I was more into the girl that turned up than the pictures she uses on social media) and CWB confirmed a threesome could happen. Lots of talking while we shared a beer, kissing, touching, oral. And I was ready to go again. Reverse cowgirl, letting her control the pace.

Probably 2:30 am by this point, so we tried to sleep. (I'm still jetlagged to fuck.) Super close, affectionate 'spooning', hands roaming each other. She kept wriggling, touching my dick. And doing some stretches for her 'bad back. ' (See attached image) Inevitably, I was ready to go again. Slow-paced bone in the spoons position, fell asleep still inside her. Kept getting woken up in the night by her wriggling closer, pulling my arm over her, snuggling into my chest etc. Super, super sweet.

Slept till about 10 am, woke up before her. Woke her up with gentle touches, tickles, small kisses. 'Warmed her up' (she was that tight and tiny, I had to get her really worked up and wet before fucking.) Missionary this time, legs wrapped around my waist, nails scratching at my back and alternating between kissing and her biting on my collarbone. She really sold the orgasms and moaning and promised I'd actually made her cum three times. I definitely did with oral, but I'm not sure about sex. Not sure. I choose to believe I did.

Showered together, then I walked her out, getting the evils from some backpacker chicks haha.

Plan today is to resist my temptation to get CWB over again, get a massage (and resist the inevitable happy ending, though probably not) and suss out renting a car for a few days. If my batteries have recharged, I'll think about getting another of my TF prospects over.

Pretty much all the game is online. In Sweeties, the only bar open in Patong, there was maybe about five or six girls and it seemed like they weren't very available (did get some line IDs though.) Beach Road was absolutely deserted. No girls whatsoever when I left Sweeties at 11 pm (it was only allowed to stay open till AM.).

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2575774]Thanks! Many of us will live vicariously through your text and pictures.

Did you ever get confirmation that there is no rule against tourists and locals sharing a hotel room?[/QUOTE]I was told by the hotel that for the first night, no joiner would be allowed in my room (because the first night until the results of the day one test is available is considered to be quarantine). I draw the conclusion that from the second night, an unmarried local guest will be allowed. But for myself I decided against travelling to Phuket in July and I am still looking for alternatives (SDQ, POP, MBA, ZNZ, DSS, BJL. But flight prices are ridiculously expensive these days).

[QUOTE=Stradivari;2576019]I was told by the hotel that for the first night, no joiner would be allowed in my room (because the first night until the results of the day one test is available is considered to be quarantine). I draw the conclusion that from the second night, an unmarried local guest will be allowed. But for myself I decided against travelling to Phuket in July and I am still looking for alternatives (SDQ, POP, MBA, ZNZ, DSS, BJL. But flight prices are ridiculously expensive these days).[/QUOTE]The flip flop nature of theThai gov't can change all the rules at the drop of a hat. Even if their scheme works technically but an infected Thai sneaks in to Phuket and cases show up. OMG the lockdowns and int'l flights in and out may be in Jeopardy.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2575882] She kept wriggling, touching my dick. And doing some stretches for her 'bad back. ' (See attached image) [/QUOTE]Image didn't attach. I'm not very good at this photography stuff, but try again. And another one of CWB for good luck. Again, crap quality.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2575882] After cleanup, we talked and watched TikTok videos and I saw some of her friends. One of who I've been talking to on TF and was high on my list to see (CWB, unbelievably, wasn't. Rare instance when I was more into the girl that turned up than the pictures she uses on social media) and CWB confirmed a threesome could happen.[/QUOTE]So, as it turns out, CWB meant she would do a threesome. But not with this girl, who shall henceforth be known as PTC (Punky Tattooed Chick.) Turns out, PTC was her very best friend. And she even strongly hinted she didn't want me to even see PTC.

So of course within about five minutes of that Line conversation with CWB, I'm chatting to PTC. Set a date for 11 pm at my hotel. Is it bad that I have every intention of trying to talk PTC and CWB into a threesome? Best friends, sisters almost. Haha.

Most of the day was spent chilling by the hotel pool. Hotel is very busy this weekend with Thais. Very interesting watching them taking pictures of eachother for their dating profiles, facebook. Gave some of them the 'eye', but no luck.

Headed into Patong about 7 pm. Bangla Street was quiet again, just the one bar open. Sweeties. Girl I played Pool with the other night tried to drag me in, but I told her I was going to go eat. She's a little too much 'bar girl' for my tastes, but she had good banter so I might hang out with her.

Beach Road was busy. Live music, fireworks, fire dancers. A 'Welcome Back to Phuket' event. Lots of people, lots of street food, lots of girls. Again, gave a few the 'eye' but it's pretty difficult to do when you're both wearing face masks. Got a few 'smiling eyes' in return, but no actual results.

Few bars open on Beach Road, so have a few cocktails and chat with some expats and waitresses. I went for a Thai massage and knowing PTC was coming over later, opted for what I thought was a 'legit' upscale looking place, older ladies in more formal style of dress. Good massage, my first Thai. Lady, who was actually pretty cute for a woman in her 40's, laughing all the way through at my grunts of pain. Despite specifying 'Normal massage, just back and shoulders' about halfway through she grabs my dick and whispers in my ear, 'Blowjob yes?' I say no. She carries on with the massage, but of course now I get hard. She's grabbing at it again 'Why boner if no blowjob?' I just laugh and say 'I'm man. ' All in all a good massage, but I've seen other places with far prettier girls. If I'm going for a blowjob, it will be one of those.

Head back to Sweeties on Bangla Road to find the Thai Police shutting it down. No idea why, bar girl has no idea. But she's messaged today to say it will be open tonight. Couple of last drinks at a bar around the corner. Couldn't get a grab (all busy), but find a cab parked up at the top of Bangla Road. "How much?" "300, Sir. " "No, 100" (Grabs between my hotel and Bangla have been about 80 thb). "Ok Sir."

Get back in time to meet Punky Tattooed Chick at security, down the hill from reception. She's definitely my type. Punky vibe, purple hair, tattoos and facial piercings. I think she's shorter than CWB, but with a tiny bit more flesh on her bones. Very sweet natured too. Walk her up to my room, up the steep hill, avoiding reception again. I think this walk works in my favour. After expending that effort, I don't think the girls want booted out for bad service.

Back in the room, I put on some music and go for a shower. I can hear PTC singing along to the early 2000's pop-punk I'm playing.

Shower done, pull PTC over to the bed. Kissing, touching, teasing her and slowly undressing her. I go down on her. She's tiny, tight and clean. Spent about 30 minutes down there (I absolutely love making a girl cum.) By the time she cums, there's grool (girl drool) all over her thighs, crotch, down my forearm, over my face and I've got four fingers inside her. She's panting, flushed, in a daze. Clean up a little and she asks, "You have condom? I no have."

"I no like. " She doesn't say anything, so I move between her legs and take my time to slide in to her, giving her chance to say 'no' if she doesn't like it. She's fucking soaking wet. Fuck her, taking advantage of her spinner status and throw her around. Like CWB, she's a very GFE fuck, kissing me, clutching at me. After maybe the fourth position, I can feel her cum again. She says to me, "You take long time to cum. " Well yes sweetie, I've been drinking and I fucked your BFF 7-8 times in the last 48 hours. Eventually though, I'm getting close, her riding me cowgirl but me doing the work. She whispers into my ear, 'Cum in pussy. ' Yep, that'll do it.

Spend about five minutes post-orgasm clinging to each other, then I lift her off of me, let her take a shower first, then I have one. Cutely, she's scared of the dark on the walk down to the gate, so asks me to walk her down. Of course sweetie. Walk her down, come back and pass out.

Today, I'm taking care of some admin business, then heading to Rawai. A few TF bar girls have said there's a couple of places open. Grab is about 250 thb each way.

[QUOTE=TConor;2576148]The flip flop nature of theThai gov't can change all the rules at the drop of a hat. Even if their scheme works technically but an infected Thai sneaks in to Phuket and cases show up. OMG the lockdowns and int'l flights in and out may be in Jeopardy.[/QUOTE]I saw this a few days ago. [URL]https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/phuket-police-to-patrol-bridges-for-covid-carriers[/URL].

On the face of it, it should be effective. To their credit, when this started to take hold in TH, they undertook nearly 5 mill border checks, and isolated about 8 k suspect cases for further investigation. For a very long time, cases were in the "handfuls" with the exception of an outbreak linked to a Boxing stadium in BKK. If they are as diligent this time, we should be well served.

The problem is that many of those crossing the bridge, will be commercial and need to get their "goods to market". There is the prospect that the need for "tea money" might undermine this. I see that PCR tests are in the region of THB 3 k. I can't see too many Thais wanting to have to renew that every 3 or 4 days while they await arrival of sufficient vax doses. Fortunately, the small numbers of tourists currently in situ would suggest that there will not be too much trade taking place across the bridge. But, like everyone else, Phuket which appears to have a high uptake of vaxxes, is like the rest of the world, in a race to achieve herd immunity before new variants can take hold.

The good news as far as the current precautions are concerned, is that all of those who arrived on day 1 returned negative PCR tests. [URL]https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism/sandbox-6000-registered-no-covid-19-yet-new-land-restrictions[/URL].

If the Thais do their bit, this looks like it may be a success. At the moment, I am targeting an arrival date of Aug 4th.

The Thai Embassy in The Hague, Netherlands, has pretty clear information about the Phuket Sandbox. I think it's also worth reading when you're not Dutch.
Flying Thai Airways is not mandatory, for example, and you can book a hotel through any trusted online platform or travel agency. According to this embassy anyway.

[URL]https://hague.thaiembassy.org/th/content/phuket-sandbox?page=5f4d1bea74187b0491379162&menu=5f4cc50a4f523722e8027442[/URL]

I thought about giving it a try, but it's just not worth all the hassle for the 2 weeks holiday that I have in July.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2576245]I saw this a few days ago. [URL]https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/phuket-police-to-patrol-bridges-for-covid-carriers[/URL].

On the face of it, it should be effective. To their credit, when this started to take hold in TH, they undertook nearly 5 mill border checks, and isolated about 8 k suspect cases for further investigation. For a very long time, cases were in the "handfuls" with the exception of an outbreak linked to a Boxing stadium in BKK. If they are as diligent this time, we should be well served.

The problem is that many of those crossing the bridge, will be commercial and need to get their "goods to market". There is the prospect that the need for "tea money" might undermine this. I see that PCR tests are in the region of THB 3 k. I can't see too many Thais wanting to have to renew that every 3 or 4 days while they await arrival of sufficient vax doses. Fortunately, the small numbers of tourists currently in situ would suggest that there will not be too much trade taking place across the bridge. But, like everyone else, Phuket which appears to have a high uptake of vaxxes, is like the rest of the world, in a race to achieve herd immunity before new variants can take hold.

The good news as far as the current precautions are concerned, is that all of those who arrived on day 1 returned negative PCR tests. [URL]https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism/sandbox-6000-registered-no-covid-19-yet-new-land-restrictions[/URL].

If the Thais do their bit, this looks like it may be a success. At the moment, I am targeting an arrival date of Aug 4th.[/QUOTE]But with 2000, then 3000, then 4000 then 5000, now 6000/ day in general population. Do you see a trend, and Phuket is not going to share? The ONLY answer is vaccinations for everyone and I guess that word (vacination) is not in the Thai vocabulary.

Day 4.

Took care of admin tasks, ate some street food, then napped for quite a while. CWB and PTC have been messaging me constantly, sending pictures and videos. Clearly they both want a repeat. Not sure how to broach the subject of 'I've fucked you both, and I want a threesome. ' CWB was pretty adamant she wouldn't do a threesome with her best friend. Awfully tempting to just invite them here at the same time and let money do the talking.

I was thinking of taking the night off and staying in, but by about 7 pm I was awake and bored. Took a grab to the beach road end of Bangla, passing lots of massage parlours with some very pretty girls outside. Too distracted by eyecandy, I didn't get the names of the places and I have a rubbish sense of direction. So no finding them again later. Definitely something I need to explore. I think I'll get a cab to take me on a 'tour', get some cheap massages and some line IDs. As convenient as the TF / Tinder game can be, it is nice to know for definite what the girl who's turning up looks like.

Beach Road was quite busy again, quite a few bars and restaurants. Seems to be more farangs around now, lots of 60 year old fat guys with 20 year old spinners on their arms. I'm new to such a casual and open scene, but. I'm 32, not ugly, moderately successful, fit and dress well. I have dated girls in their early twenties in the UK and it doesn't raise eyebrows. However. I'm not sure I could bring myself to stroll around so blatantly among the holidaymakers, arm in arm with a girl I'm obviously paying to fuck me. I think that's just my hang-up and it's something I need to overcome if I want to move away from the 'pro' scene and bang some girls here that require the pretence of a 'date' before they come back to your room.

Bangla Road was a little more lively. One or two more bars open, none with girls. The lights turned on at Illuzion, Crazy Girls etc. Maybe a hopeful sign that they're thinking of opening up. Bored, I wandered back into Sweeties and was immediately latched on to by Bar Girl. She's older than me, 36, a little plain, but a decent enough figure and great banter. I buy her a lady drink, play lots of pool and drink some San Mig. Mongel Mob turn up, they're pretty loud, but well behaved. Bar is still shutting at 11, but BG keeps me there for a mini 'lock in' till about 12. She shows me videos of her Thai boxing. She's very good. I'm pretty sure she could beat me up. I get a fear boner. I had every intention of taking a night off, recharging and then trying to fuck some of the 18/19/20 year olds I've got on TF today.

Inevitably, I end up on the back of BG's scooter on the way back to my hotel. We arrive, park up, BG gets into a mini argument with the security guard, but he seems to take my assurance that 'my friend, not stay long, it's ok. ' Do my by now inevitable 'sneak up the steep as fuck road out of sight of reception up to my room,' BG worried I'll get in trouble. I'm not. Fuck paying that joiner fee.

Back at the room, I shower, she showers. On the bed, kissing and touching. Best DFK of the trip yet. Her tongue in my throat practically, sucking on mine. I'm rubbing her, she's wet. She asks 'You have condom?' I'm not ready to fuck yet, "After, blowjob first" and I push her down for a BBBJ. Full on gagging, deep-throat facefuck. She's amazing at it, but I stop her before I come.

I go down on her. She's tight, struggling to get a finger inside her. She gets wetter and wetter, I end up with four fingers inside her. She's writhing and humping my face, holding me down there. When she comes, she bends almost double and she squirts. My face is soaked. I flop down next to her while she recovers a little. When she gets her breath, she turns to me and snogs my face off again while I'm still soaked in her juices. That's quite the turn on.

Tongue still down my throat, she slides over and mounts me, cowgirl, earlier mention of a condom forgotten with no argument from me. She's so, so hot and fucking soaking. We roll around the bed, not stopping kissing for a moment, fucking in all different positions. Activities of the last few days, beer, kamagra and tiredness, I'm taking a while to cum. She seems to love it, pinning me down, I can 'feel' her come again. We're both sweaty and panting. Eventually, we get the position and I cum inside her. Just lie there for about ten minutes, locked together, panting and laughing.

We shower together, in post-coital glow, she's talking about taking me on a tour of the island on her scooter today, her day off. And I'm agreeing, though I managed to back off a little by saying I had appointments so maybe in the afternoon. Not opposed to a guided tour and some more banter with her, but I don't want to give her the wrong idea. I don't want a girlfriend. Not even a holiday girlfriend. And as good as she was, I'm unlikely to repeat. Given the Thai boxing and Sweeties being the only open bar with girls, I'm going to have to handle this one carefully. Any thoughts?

I'm tired again, needing to sleep. She needs to leave for some reason, but says she come back. I say no, I sleep. We've had zero discussion on money. She's dressed, half-way out of the door and I stop her, force 1000 thb into her purse. A 'freebie' would be nice, but after my earlier stupidity of agreeing to spend the day with her, I've come back to my senses and want to keep our 'relationship' financial. And transactional.

No plans yet today, I should probably go and do some touristy things. 'Day off', attempt two!

[QUOTE=TConor;2576503]But with 2000, then 3000, then 4000 then 5000, now 6000/ day in general population. Do you see a trend, and Phuket is not going to share? The ONLY answer is vaccinations for everyone and I guess that word (vacination) is not in the Thai vocabulary.[/QUOTE]Fortunately. The provincial gov in Phuket have done a pretty good job in suppressing the virus as well as getting vaxxes done. The average new infection rate on the island is about one per 140 k head per day; less than 20 new cases per week. In Ireland, it's 1 in 14 k per day. They have also set up checkpoints on the bridge and are only allowing those with proof of vax or recent PCR test, and they must also have the phone app. That last bit makes it riskier for cops to take tea money to allow people past the checkpoint. Factor in that I have been vaxxed. The CDC is showing an infection rate of 100 cases per million (1 in 10 K cases), although I don't think that the Delta variant will improve on this figure when it starts to take a serious hold in the US.

Thailand is definitely a high risk country, though it's currently only at 25% of the UK rate. I am planning four weeks. But statistically in Phuket, in that time, I would have to have close contact with 2500 people a day based on current figures to have a 50% chance of meeting an infected person, and that does not mean I will become infected. And then, I would have to be one of those 1 in 10 k cases where the vax failed. Right now, I'd say that as long as the local gov continue what they are doing, and people stick to the rules, Phuket is one of the safest places on the planet to be right now.

Day 6 report. Car acquired. Did touristy things, saw some beaches, saw Big Buddha, successfully ducked bar girl.

I've been burning the candle at both ends, so today was mostly a day off. On the lookout for somewhere to eat in Patong, I walked past a massage shop and there was a stunningly pretty little thing sat outside. Busty spinner, blonde dyed hair, very pretty. So of course I go for a massage. She's very sweet and cute. She offers 1000 for HJ, 1500 for BJ, 2000 for FS. Err. Nope!

I counter with 2000 yes, but not here. At my hotel. Oh, I no do that. OK, this place shuts in an hour? Come eat with me. Oh, I no date, I shy. A drink? No no no. Flirting, banter, I manage to get her add her line to mine in the hopes of talking her into a visit.

Her line pops up. A couple of pictures I can swear I've seen before. Stupid cartoon face thing on one, 'fake mud pack' effect thing on another. Swear I've seen them. Finish the massage, head outside. Get back to my hotel and. I didn't hit add, I've lost it.

Now I have to go for another massage.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2576532]Day 4.

Beach Road was quite busy again, quite a few bars and restaurants. Seems to be more farangs around now, lots of 60 year old fat guys with 20 year old spinners on their arms. I'm new to such a casual and open scene, but. I'm 32, not ugly, moderately successful, fit and dress well. I have dated girls in their early twenties in the UK and it doesn't raise eyebrows. However. I'm not sure I could bring myself to stroll around so blatantly among the holidaymakers, arm in arm with a girl I'm obviously paying to fuck me. I think that's just my hang-up and it's something I need to overcome if I want to move away from the 'pro' scene and bang some girls here that require the pretence of a 'date' before they come back to your room.

B![/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. It's great to see that their is life after CV.

Regarding your qualms about age gaps, I will bet right now that if you are still mongering when you hit 60, these will have disappeared. Think about it. If you stay within age range and the options are some late 40's has been, or a fresh beautiful girl, are you really going to going to look FR the former.

We are hardwired to want the most attractive we can get hold of, and if that means paying the price. We will as long as we can afford it. Man is the only species on the planet that has compunctions about age differences. The older we get, as we see pretty girls, the more we think, "If only I were 20 years younger".

I'll be 70 next year and the only reservations I have about hooking up with a twenty something, is based on the maturity of her behaviour. If they act like adults, no problem.

Maybe guys embellish their reporting.

I see lots of 70 year old guys with their Batgirl. Rarely do I see that love dovey scenario.

All I see is OMG let's get this over with,- from the girls point of view.

Once I asked a Girl if she have fun with old man-she Not answer in Bargirls typical fashion. LOL.

Not saying I'm any different than 70 year old. I'm just a Customer too.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2576532]Beach Road was quite busy again, quite a few bars and restaurants. Seems to be more farangs around now, lots of 60 year old fat guys with 20 year old spinners on their arms.[/QUOTE]Your tempting me to make my next trip prior to existing October/November plans. I'm another old 60+ man who has a taste for 20-something spinners, but 2 hours is the maximum I can tolerate their immature brains. For longer sessions (3 to 14 days), I like them older (40+).

Thanks for the great reports and pictures.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2576666]Now I have to go for another massage.[/QUOTE]Amazing reports, JJ. I love reading them. They're very to the point, without stupid unnecessary details. Your details on pricing really helps, too.

Thanks for your attention to detail so we can live vicariously. I'm pretty sure I'll be making Thailand (not sure about phuket) my next destination.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2576913]Amazing reports, JJ. I love reading them. They're very to the point, without stupid unnecessary details. Your details on pricing really helps, too.

Thanks for your attention to detail so we can live vicariously. I'm pretty sure I'll be making Thailand (not sure about phuket) my next destination.[/QUOTE]I'm almost certain I could get cheaper. Everything else. Hotels, restaurants, car rentals, grabs, even tattoo artist. Are telling me two years ago, their services would have been way more than I'm paying.

I have the money and at 1500 baht, there's no negotiation which I hate. Just 'yes.' I've never been fucked by a paid for girl like the last three girls have fucked me, except a SB in London who I payed far more than 1500 baht!

If I was a 'machinefun monger' trying to get 3 and 4 girls a day, I'd be wanting to pay less. I'm quite happy with one long, quality session.

Thanks for your reports, J Janni.

Care to share with me via PM which SHA+ hotel you're staying at? Sounds like a winner tipping the workers a few hundred baht and they turn the other cheek for girls coming in and out.

I assume there is no tracking device for the Phuket sandbox as they discussed before?

I like the fact that the SHA+ hotels are booked directly through [URL]booking.com[/URL]. No jacked up hotel rates. Are the COVID tests included in the SHA+ hotel rates? Sounds like you have lots of freedom and there are at least a couple bars open.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2576666] I walked past a massage shop and there was a stunningly pretty little thing sat outside. Busty spinner, blonde dyed hair, very pretty. So of course I go for a massage. She's very sweet and cute. .[/QUOTE]Keep in touch with her Janni. No frequent texts. She will sit on top of you in two days if you have a crush on her. He he.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2576782]Maybe guys embellish their reporting.

I see lots of 70 year old guys with their Batgirl. Rarely do I see that love dovey scenario.[/QUOTE]Best part is when you see them taking the whole family in the restaurant.

They look completely lost in the middle of the girls multiple children and her parents.

Just spent 4 hours searching for a flight. Didn't think it could be so hard. Virtually all the bucket shops were mainly showing only flights that were transiting through BKK so these were non starters. Those that were not, had either the outward or inward flights in the 30+ hour range, with long layovers. I'm too old for that game.

Eventually plumped for Qatar Airways with stops at LHR and Doha. It took 5 attempts to pay for the ticket. One failed because of CC probs. The wife who is currently at home in Japan, made two online purchases one for €700 and one for €10. The CC company thought the 10 was suspicious so they phoned her. However, she will not pick up the phone if someone calls her from Ireland unless she recognises the number. She doesn't want to pay the €2 per minute charge for receiving the call, so the bank blocked the card. By the time I got the prob sorted, the price had gone up from €670 to €744. So much for my wife saving 2.

I made another three attempts, and each one timed out. That meant restarting and by the time I got to the 4th attempt, it had risen to €805. Eventually, I retarded my start / finish dates by one day each, and got a flight for €654.

At the end, there was the customary survey to rate the booking experience. I gave it one star. They then offered a drop-down menu to list the possible complaints. First option was "speed of site / page loading times". That leads me to believe that they must be aware of the prob, but haven't bothered to fix. If there'd been another convenient option, I would have booked elsewhere. I will say to QA's credit though, that the refund policy is very good. You can cancel up to 3 hrs before take-off and get a full refund. My lucks been cursed recently and I am just waiting for something to go wrong.

I've been reading that they intend to fully reopen TH on July 15th, I was just thinking that of the sandbox scheme works out in Phuket and Samui, it might be a good idea to keep the restrictions in those two places. If they need to shut down again, at least those two places should then be able to stay open.

I have a flight in November to BKK. Tried today to switch the ingoing flight to HKT, when I discovered that there are only a tiny number of flights arriving in HKT via Europe or the US.

[URL]https://www.flightconnections.com/flights-to-phuket-hkt[/URL]

I'm planning to keep my BKK flight and hope for the best.

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2577318]I have a flight in November to BKK. Tried today to switch the ingoing flight to HKT, when I discovered that there are only a tiny number of flights arriving in HKT via Europe or the US.

[URL]https://www.flightconnections.com/flights-to-phuket-hkt[/URL]

I'm planning to keep my BKK flight and hope for the best.[/QUOTE]You need to be aware that you cannot currently transit via BKK to Phuket without doing a 14 day quarantine. However, TH is planning to fully reopen on Oct 15th and things may have changed by then.

You will be able to transit thru bkk when the new sand boxes in the other islands open in a week or two. They will not have direct flights.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2577331]You need to be aware that you cannot currently transit via BKK to Phuket without doing a 14 day quarantine. However, TH is planning to fully reopen on Oct 15th and things may have changed by then.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2577108]Best part is when you see them taking the whole family in the restaurant.

They look completely lost in the middle of the girls multiple children and her parents.[/QUOTE]I just pray the majority of these Guys married for the right reasons.

Mutual Love. Hahaha. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2577334]You will be able to transit thru bkk when the new sand boxes in the other islands open in a week or two. They will not have direct flights.[/QUOTE]That is good news. If BKK is still off limits by November, I'll just add on a connecting flight to one of the other sandbox islands. From what I've read, it sounds like the government is realizing that the economic pain is so severe that they are pushing the reopening forward. Optimally, I'the like to have time in the islands, time in BKK, and time in Chiangmai, but I'll take whatever I can get!

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2577017]Thanks for your reports, J Janni.

Care to share with me via PM which SHA+ hotel you're staying at? Sounds like a winner tipping the workers a few hundred baht and they turn the other cheek for girls coming in and out.

I assume there is no tracking device for the Phuket sandbox as they discussed before?

I like the fact that the SHA+ hotels are booked directly through [URL]booking.com[/URL]. No jacked up hotel rates. Are the COVID tests included in the SHA+ hotel rates? Sounds like you have lots of freedom and there are at least a couple bars open.[/QUOTE]PM if you want the hotel, but I wouldn't recommend staying here. Too far out of Patong to walk (maybe 20-30 minutes), so I'm getting Grabs all the time. Resort style hotel on a steep slope, with lots of steps to and from the rooms if you walk the 'official' way (but no way to skirt reception), or a very steep road. No problem for a whippersnapper fitness freak like me, but the second time CWB came over, I ended up having to give her a piggy-back half the way. There's an on-call shuttle bus, which I used for two girls last night (without paying a joiner fee), so things are at least looking up.

Honestly, stay somewhere else. If Patong, somewhere closer into the action. If I come back after my brief sojourn in the UK, I'll be staying somewhere else.

I wouldn't have thought PRC tests are included in the hotel rate unless specified. They're a standard 8000 thb for the three you require. (Just done my second this morning.).

Only tracking is 'Morchana' track and trace ap. Only thing I have to do is let the hotel scan the barcode on it once a day, at my convenience. If you had property out her, or wanted to stay at a friend or girlfriend's, it would be perfectly possible to book the cheapest SHA+ hotel and just swing by once a day.

Just seen this: [URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2144879/first-covid-infected-tourist-found-in-phuket-sandbox[/URL].

I have a friend in Ching Rai who lives in CR who tells me that all the members of his group are now in 14 day hotel quarantine. The Thai medicos are also testing close contacts of the infected man based on the plane seating plan.

This is the risk we take. It only needs one person near to you to become infected and everything is ruined.

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2577415]That is good news. If BKK is still off limits by November, I'll just add on a connecting flight to one of the other sandbox islands. From what I've read, it sounds like the government is realizing that the economic pain is so severe that they are pushing the reopening forward. Optimally, I'the like to have time in the islands, time in BKK, and time in Chiangmai, but I'll take whatever I can get![/QUOTE]Other tourists in the same group had been placed in 14-day quarantine at a hotel provided by the province for observation and Covid-19 testing. Oh yea, no chance this will happen to you.

So, actual day 6 report (previous report should have been day 5 I think.).

Early start to the day, morning swim (I'm five steps from a pool.) Appearing from the room beside mine (I'm at the end of a row), a pretty and full-figured Kiwi girl in her mid to late 20's who arrived yesterday and has just been released. She works in Qatar and is here for a short holiday by herself. We have a good chat and banter. I'm enthralled. After a few days of spinners, I'm craving a girl with curves. She doesn't drive, I now have a car. Make vague plan to drive her to one or two of the more remote beaches. More on her later.

Check out some more tourist stuff by myself. Some rock pools, Phuket Town. I actually really enjoy driving here. Roads and views are stunning when you get off the main roads. Narrow, steep and twisting. Like driving in Cornwall just with more suicidal lunatics on scooters.

Having a day off of the 'night-life', so I'm back to the hotel for about 6 pm. I ate an early breakfast, lunch mid-afternoon. I normally only tend to eat once or twice a day, so no plans to go out for food. I'm just relaxing, trawling TF trying to fulfil that 'tall (ish) and with curves' craving. That puts me dangerously into ladyboy territory. Talk to a few prospects, bluntly asking, 'You born a girl?' Responses are vague, though may be language barrier. 'I have pussy, am girl. ' Doesn't mean you didn't used to be a man, darling.

Finally settle on one prospect, quick videochat (In my limited experience of being accosted by ladyboys outside massage parlours, the voice is the biggest giveaway) I'm confident she's a girl. Not much of a view of her body on the videochat, but she's very pretty with dyed blonde hair (like my missed connection massage girl, who I need to track down again). Stats on her profile claim 22,5'6, 120 lbs. Invite her over at 7. (1500 short time). She says 45 minutes. At 7:44 on the dot, I get a message to say she's here. I go down to meet her.

Girl from the videochat and pictures. Extremely pretty. But I'd put her at 5 foot nothin' and under 100 lbs. It's so difficult to judge figures and height from pictures, when there's no frame of reference and all you see all day is petite women.

Oh well, surprise spinner is a winner.

I'm sick of trying to sneak past reception by the steep road, so on the way down I've given the shuttle bus driver 100 thb, got him to turn around and wait for me out of sight of reception. Surprise Spinner (SS) and I stroll up, hand in hand. And right past Kiwi girl, walking out of reception to go to 7/11 or something. Ooops. Doesn't look in my direction, but I know she's seen me.

In to room. She's a little shy, a bit deer in the headlights. I put on some music, flirt and tease her, try to make her relax. She does some but is still very. Wooden and passive. Light French kissing, undress her, undress myself. "You have condom?" You just got here, sweetie. "Blowjob first. " Push her down and she makes a half-decent effort at it, but I don't want to cum like that. Spin her on to her back and go down. Pretty, perfect little pussy. I don't think the girls here have been getting a lot of action, because she gets extremely wet, extremely quickly, pussy opening up like a flower. Three fingers, writhing against my face and holding my head down. Felt her clench on my fingers and when I pull out of her, a line of grool is connecting my fingers to her.

"My friend (she got a lift on a scooter) wait. We hurry?" Umm. You've only been here 20-30 minutes sweetie. Whatever. I think my 'go with the flow and not overly specify what I want' (out of laziness) strategy has failed here. I want 1-2 hours minimum. Move between her legs, nibbling at her collarbone.

"You have condom?

". No like, no cum."

"Can not."

"OK."

Find some, rubber-up (a little too small. I'm Western average, I think the pharmacy lady just sold me the wrong ones). Enter. She's lying there like a deadfish. I've fucked more involved 30 quid Romanians in the UK. Maybe two / three minutes and. "You cum? I have to go, friend not wait."

Ok, fuck it. Pull out, toss the condom and say, "You supposed to stay longer, but ok, you go. " I'd rather 'save some energy' and spend it on a more involved fuck. It wasn't the condom. I never push too hard for BBFS. It was the lack of involvement. I can happily cum wearing a condom.

She has a quick shower, I only think to snap some pictures when she's fully dressed and she's not for undressing again haha. I give her 1000 thb, "You only stay short time, if you come again, stay longer, give more. " Maybe shouldn't have even given her that much, but she arrived at the time she said she would on the dot. Got to be worth something in a country where everyone else treats an hour late as on time. Doesn't argue, asks me to walk her down. We walk down the steep road, she's clutching at my arm and close beside me through the 'dark, scary' bits.

See her to her friend's bike, decide 'Fuck it, it's only 8:20. ' Beer and pool on Bangla, I don't just want to go and sit in my room. Try and get a grab. They keep accepting, but the 'time to arrival' keeps going backwards. And they're moving in the wrong direction. Probably picking up cash, shot distance fares. Get annoyed, cancel them. Start walking, thinking I'll flag someone down.

No luck, walking past a little Thai restaurant. Emirati guy and his Thai wife I recognize from my flight are in there. The food they have looks amazing. I realize I'm hungry. I come in, sit down, order. He and his wife are a great laugh. Eat food, drink some beer, he keeps buying me and the three Tai waitresses shots of this sweet liqueur. Pretty good time. 11 pm comes (all places have to shut by 11 pm, it's like pre-2005 in the UK, get yourself shitfaced before 11 pm), we get kicked out. They head to their hotel, I head to mine.

All day, I've been chatting with Punky Tattooed Chick and Cutie With a Booty on Line. Talked PTC into trying anal if she comes again, CWB has already confirmed she'll try again. Main tract of the conversation with CWB is she's dying her hair electric blue half at my suggestion, half already thinking about doing it herself. Not likely to happen, but the thought of a threesome with two neon-haired, all holes bare spinners has my interest piqued.

Mental coin toss, tell CWB to come over. She messages to say she's five minutes away, I go down to meet her, getting my friendly shuttle driver to spin around out of sight of reception. She's not there. Get a message. Picture of the outside of my room. She got a different taxi bike and he just zoomed straight past security without stopping. Hop in the shuttle, get up to my room, smooth things over with the security guard who went zooming after them. Hand in hand to my room. Pass Kiwi Girl's room at the precise moment she's just putting some room service dishes outside. For fuck's sake haha.

Inside, CWB has been drinking. I've been drinking. So we drink some more and listen to music. She jabbers non-stop, I find it oddly endearing. The odd grunt and word here and there is the only thing I have to contribute. Despite my verbosity on this report, I find small talk a chore. So her chattering away is a blessing to me.

Normal service with CWB, lots of kissing, touching, slowly undressing, mutual oral (I think I made her cum again), move to enter her. "Why you no like condom?" "Not feel nice, no cum. " This is the first time you've mentioned a condom sweetie. I enter. Due to the earlier uncompleted encounter, I cum quickly (for me when I've been drinking and on kamagra). Maybe ten minutes. Both of us very sweaty, panting, clinging together. Quite the load, I can feel the first couple of shots into her.

"Why you cum inside?

Erm. This is like the 8th time I've cum inside you.

"I have take Plan be pill, make sick. " Oh well.

2-3 am, we're both drunk, so we shower and get into bed. Normal sleeping with CWB service. Wriggling around, constantly pulling my arm over her, wrapping her legs around my thigh, spooning, lying half on top of me. She's like ten dogs trying to find a comfortable spot to lie down. It's actually pretty sweet, but difficult to nod off. Eventually, we both must have passed out.

Wake up about 7:30 for a morning piss. Disentangle myself from an unresponsive CWB, piss, brush my teeth. Get back into bed. Repeat from last time she stayed over. Tease her awake, warm her up, get her wet. Only this morning, she's taking a while to get really wet. I've got my second covid test at 10 am and time is slipping away, so I use lube. Same same again, slow bone in the spoons position, come as my alarm goes off. We shower together, dress, pass Kiwi Girl for a third time, on her way up to breakfast, (I wish I was making this up), get in car, I drop CWB at her shitty rooms in central Patong, go to my Covid test around the corner. Pretty slick setup. We all get fired through quickly.

Back at hotel, sleep for a few hours. Today, beach day. And continue the hunt.

Attached half-clothed pictures of deadfish SS and a bonus action shot of CWB.

1st covid case arrives in the Phuket sandbox, it was bound to happen.

[QUOTE=TConor;2577468]Other tourists in the same group had been placed in 14-day quarantine at a hotel provided by the province for observation and Covid-19 testing. Oh yea, no chance this will happen to you.[/QUOTE]Some people are already claiming that the one case of Farang covid makes the Sandbox a failure. Actually, I'd describe it as a success.

I know that this is more about commerce than anything else, but the priority should be about protecting the health and safety of the locals. Out of 2100 arrivals to date, one case has been detected within 24 hours of his arrival. He has been in a bubble since he boarded his flight and most of his close contracts have been vaxxed. The CDC were saying that the failure rate for vaxxed people was just one in 10 k (before the Delta variant took hold), so the chances of him spreading the disease among his close contacts is small, though they may become carriers. So with 2100 landings, we were looking at about 20% chance that this would occur. The Thais acted promptly in isolating the risk to their credit.

I have my ticket booked to land on Aug 5th. Currently, the only thing that is going to lead to my cancelling is seeing what happens with the close contacts and how they are treated. I've not booked my hotel yet and I am assuming that the hotel with this group are staying will not be allowed to accept further bookings for the duration.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2577516]Some people are already claiming that the one case of Farang covid makes the Sandbox a failure. Actually, I'd describe it as a success.

I know that this is more about commerce than anything else, but the priority should be about protecting the health and safety of the locals. Out of 2100 arrivals to date, one case has been detected within 24 hours of his arrival. He has been in a bubble since he boarded his flight and most of his close contracts have been vaxxed. The CDC were saying that the failure rate for vaxxed people was just one in 10 k (before the Delta variant took hold), so the chances of him spreading the disease among his close contacts is small, though they may become carriers. So with 2100 landings, we were looking at about 20% chance that this would occur. The Thais acted promptly in isolating the risk to their credit.

I have my ticket booked to land on Aug 5th. Currently, the only thing that is going to lead to my cancelling is seeing what happens with the close contacts and how they are treated. I've not booked my hotel yet and I am assuming that the hotel with this group are staying will not be allowed to accept further bookings for the duration.[/QUOTE]How can you say "the chances to spread the disease are small".

And then say "they might be carriers"?

Carrying the disease is spreading it.

If vaccinated the chances to turn the positive into hospital cases are 90/95% (average) of two doses a s 69/65% (if one dose), in general and depending on the individual.

But that's another story as it refers to individual (getting sick).

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2577464]Just seen this: [URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2144879/first-covid-infected-tourist-found-in-phuket-sandbox[/URL].

I have a friend in Ching Rai who lives in CR who tells me that all the members of his group are now in 14 day hotel quarantine. The Thai medicos are also testing close contacts of the infected man based on the plane seating plan.

This is the risk we take. It only needs one person near to you to become infected and everything is ruined.[/QUOTE]Indeed, that is common sense and what it is all about.

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2577415]That is good news. If BKK is still off limits by November, I'll just add on a connecting flight to one of the other sandbox islands. From what I've read, it sounds like the government is realizing that the economic pain is so severe that they are pushing the reopening forward. Optimally, I'the like to have time in the islands, time in BKK, and time in Chiangmai, but I'll take whatever I can get![/QUOTE]I can instead well figure the pain of having all of a sudden a few hundreds people requiring medical care.

That's the "choice" all seriously minded governments had to face since March 2020.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2577558]How can you say "the chances to spread the disease are small".

And then say "they might be carriers"?

Carrying the disease is spreading it.

If vaccinated the chances to turn the positive into hospital cases are 90/95% (average) of two doses a s 69/65% (if one dose), in general and depending on the individual.

But that's another story as it refers to individual (getting sick).[/QUOTE]You only spread it if you infect someone else.

They "might" be carriers, and then again they might not. Hence "small". Currently, the are are 18 others in his group who are confined to the SHA hotel for 14 days. All 18 have been fully vaxxed. SHA hotels require that staff have a vax uptake of 70%. They will also be aware of the possibility of infection from this group and will no doubt take sensible steps to reduce close contact with this group.

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2577318]I have a flight in November to BKK. Tried today to switch the ingoing flight to HKT, when I discovered that there are only a tiny number of flights arriving in HKT via Europe or the US.

[URL]https://www.flightconnections.com/flights-to-phuket-hkt[/URL]

I'm planning to keep my BKK flight and hope for the best.[/QUOTE]And then you need to make sure that, at that time, they will operate.

Don't take it for granted.

As a precaution you better book through the airline website. They will offer more protection and often they have code share flights with airlines landing in HKT (whether via BKK or whatever) so more seat availability and solutions under the same ticket.

Just reading the update from Phuket on the "foreign infection". Turns out it he took the Sinopharm vax. Maybe it's time for TH to consider foreign travellers with that vax as "suspect".

I have had a view for sometime about Chinese manufactured goods, which seem to come in two qualities: Excellent because it has been outsourced to them by a foreign manufacturer such as Apple. Then there is, "it may be crap, but it's cheap. We use it ourselves domestically, and 1. 4 Billion Chinese can't be wrong".

I speak with the experience of having spent €4300 with Alibaba on an XRF machine, that looked and performed nothing like the model advertised on the video. Bait and Switch anyone?

[QUOTE=JJanni;2577481]So, actual day 6 report (previous report should have been day 5 I think.).

Early start to the day, morning swim (I'm five steps from a pool.) Appearing from the room beside mine (I'm at the end of a row), a pretty and full-figured Kiwi girl in her mid to late 20's who arrived yesterday and has just been released. She works in Qatar and is here for a short holiday by herself. We have a good chat and banter. I'm enthralled. After a few days of spinners, I'm craving a girl with curves. She doesn't drive, I now have a car. Make vague plan to drive her to one or two of the more remote beaches. More on her later.

Check out some more tourist stuff by myself. Some rock pools, Phuket Town. I actually really enjoy driving here. Roads and views are stunning when you get off the main roads. Narrow, steep and twisting. Like driving in Cornwall just with more suicidal lunatics on scooters.

Having a day off of the 'night-life', so I'm back to the hotel for about 6 pm. I ate an early breakfast, lunch mid-afternoon. I normally only tend to eat once or twice a day, so no plans to go out for food. I'm just relaxing, trawling TF trying to fulfil that 'tall (ish) and with curves' craving. That puts me dangerously into ladyboy territory. Talk to a few prospects, bluntly asking, 'You born a girl?' Responses are vague, though may be language barrier. 'I have pussy, am girl. ' Doesn't mean you didn't used to be a man, darling.

Finally settle on one prospect, quick videochat (In my limited experience of being accosted by ladyboys outside massage parlours, the voice is the biggest giveaway) I'm confident she's a girl. Not much of a view of her body on the videochat, but she's very pretty with dyed blonde hair (like my missed connection massage girl, who I need to track down again). Stats on her profile claim 22,5'6, 120 lbs. Invite her over at 7. (1500 short time). She says 45 minutes. At 7:44 on the dot, I get a message to say she's here. I go down to meet her.

Girl from the videochat and pictures. Extremely pretty. But I'd put her at 5 foot nothin' and under 100 lbs. It's so difficult to judge figures and height from pictures, when there's no frame of reference and all you see all day is petite women.

Oh well, surprise spinner is a winner.

I'm sick of trying to sneak past reception by the steep road, so on the way down I've given the shuttle bus driver 100 thb, got him to turn around and wait for me out of sight of reception. Surprise Spinner (SS) and I stroll up, hand in hand. And right past Kiwi girl, walking out of reception to go to 7/11 or something. Ooops. Doesn't look in my direction, but I know she's seen me.

In to room. She's a little shy, a bit deer in the headlights. I put on some music, flirt and tease her, try to make her relax. She does some but is still very. Wooden and passive. Light French kissing, undress her, undress myself. "You have condom?" You just got here, sweetie. "Blowjob first. " Push her down and she makes a half-decent effort at it, but I don't want to cum like that. Spin her on to her back and go down. Pretty, perfect little pussy. I don't think the girls here have been getting a lot of action, because she gets extremely wet, extremely quickly, pussy opening up like a flower. Three fingers, writhing against my face and holding my head down. Felt her clench on my fingers and when I pull out of her, a line of grool is connecting my fingers to her.

"My friend (she got a lift on a scooter) wait. We hurry?" Umm. You've only been here 20-30 minutes sweetie. Whatever. I think my 'go with the flow and not overly specify what I want' (out of laziness) strategy has failed here. I want 1-2 hours minimum. Move between her legs, nibbling at her collarbone.

"You have condom?

". No like, no cum."

"Can not."

"OK."

Find some, rubber-up (a little too small. I'm Western average, I think the pharmacy lady just sold me the wrong ones). Enter. She's lying there like a deadfish. I've fucked more involved 30 quid Romanians in the UK. Maybe two / three minutes and. "You cum? I have to go, friend not wait."

Ok, fuck it. Pull out, toss the condom and say, "You supposed to stay longer, but ok, you go. " I'd rather 'save some energy' and spend it on a more involved fuck. It wasn't the condom. I never push too hard for BBFS. It was the lack of involvement. I can happily cum wearing a condom.

She has a quick shower, I only think to snap some pictures when she's fully dressed and she's not for undressing again haha. I give her 1000 thb, "You only stay short time, if you come again, stay longer, give more. " Maybe shouldn't have even given her that much, but she arrived at the time she said she would on the dot. Got to be worth something in a country where everyone else treats an hour late as on time. Doesn't argue, asks me to walk her down. We walk down the steep road, she's clutching at my arm and close beside me through the 'dark, scary' bits.

See her to her friend's bike, decide 'Fuck it, it's only 8:20. ' Beer and pool on Bangla, I don't just want to go and sit in my room. Try and get a grab. They keep accepting, but the 'time to arrival' keeps going backwards. And they're moving in the wrong direction. Probably picking up cash, shot distance fares. Get annoyed, cancel them. Start walking, thinking I'll flag someone down.

No luck, walking past a little Thai restaurant. Emirati guy and his Thai wife I recognize from my flight are in there. The food they have looks amazing. I realize I'm hungry. I come in, sit down, order. He and his wife are a great laugh. Eat food, drink some beer, he keeps buying me and the three Tai waitresses shots of this sweet liqueur. Pretty good time. 11 pm comes (all places have to shut by 11 pm, it's like pre-2005 in the UK, get yourself shitfaced before 11 pm), we get kicked out. They head to their hotel, I head to mine.

All day, I've been chatting with Punky Tattooed Chick and Cutie With a Booty on Line. Talked PTC into trying anal if she comes again, CWB has already confirmed she'll try again. Main tract of the conversation with CWB is she's dying her hair electric blue half at my suggestion, half already thinking about doing it herself. Not likely to happen, but the thought of a threesome with two neon-haired, all holes bare spinners has my interest piqued.

Mental coin toss, tell CWB to come over. She messages to say she's five minutes away, I go down to meet her, getting my friendly shuttle driver to spin around out of sight of reception. She's not there. Get a message. Picture of the outside of my room. She got a different taxi bike and he just zoomed straight past security without stopping. Hop in the shuttle, get up to my room, smooth things over with the security guard who went zooming after them. Hand in hand to my room. Pass Kiwi Girl's room at the precise moment she's just putting some room service dishes outside. For fuck's sake haha.

Inside, CWB has been drinking. I've been drinking. So we drink some more and listen to music. She jabbers non-stop, I find it oddly endearing. The odd grunt and word here and there is the only thing I have to contribute. Despite my verbosity on this report, I find small talk a chore. So her chattering away is a blessing to me.

Normal service with CWB, lots of kissing, touching, slowly undressing, mutual oral (I think I made her cum again), move to enter her. "Why you no like condom?" "Not feel nice, no cum. " This is the first time you've mentioned a condom sweetie. I enter. Due to the earlier uncompleted encounter, I cum quickly (for me when I've been drinking and on kamagra). Maybe ten minutes. Both of us very sweaty, panting, clinging together. Quite the load, I can feel the first couple of shots into her.

"Why you cum inside?

Erm. This is like the 8th time I've cum inside you.

"I have take Plan be pill, make sick. " Oh well.

2-3 am, we're both drunk, so we shower and get into bed. Normal sleeping with CWB service. Wriggling around, constantly pulling my arm over her, wrapping her legs around my thigh, spooning, lying half on top of me. She's like ten dogs trying to find a comfortable spot to lie down. It's actually pretty sweet, but difficult to nod off. Eventually, we both must have passed out.

Wake up about 7:30 for a morning piss. Disentangle myself from an unresponsive CWB, piss, brush my teeth. Get back into bed. Repeat from last time she stayed over. Tease her awake, warm her up, get her wet. Only this morning, she's taking a while to get really wet. I've got my second covid test at 10 am and time is slipping away, so I use lube. Same same again, slow bone in the spoons position, come as my alarm goes off. We shower together, dress, pass Kiwi Girl for a third time, on her way up to breakfast, (I wish I was making this up), get in car, I drop CWB at her shitty rooms in central Patong, go to my Covid test around the corner. Pretty slick setup. We all get fired through quickly.

Back at hotel, sleep for a few hours. Today, beach day. And continue the hunt.

Attached half-clothed pictures of deadfish SS and a bonus action shot of CWB.[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting. Great detail.

Quick question for you: I've read that while you are in an SHA hotel, they do room checks to make sure you are resident. Is it like a curfew where you have to be in the room at a fixed time, or is it like "put in an appearance sometime during the night"? I'm a late night reveller, and I don't want a schedule to cramp my style.

Thanks for the reports JJanni. Won't requote here to save space. But loving them and the detail. I fucking belly laughed out load at "She's like ten dogs trying to find a comfy place to lie down". OMG. Roflmao. Too funny. Thanks for that.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2577947]Thanks for the reports JJanni. Won't requote here to save space. But loving them and the detail. I fucking belly laughed out load at "She's like ten dogs trying to find a comfy place to lie down". OMG. Roflmao. Too funny. Thanks for that.[/QUOTE]Seriously. They need to make an upvote functionality so we can show appreciation without writing a full on reply for quality posts.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2577947]Thanks for the reports JJanni. Won't requote here to save space. But loving them and the detail. I fucking belly laughed out load at "She's like ten dogs trying to find a comfy place to lie down". OMG. Roflmao. Too funny. Thanks for that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2578066]Seriously. They need to make an upvote functionality so we can show appreciation without writing a full on reply for quality posts.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys. Who would have thought an English Lit. Degree would come in handy for writing smutty accounts of mongering adventures. It's been fuck all use for anything else. I drive ships for a living!

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2577910]Thanks for posting. Great detail.

Quick question for you: I've read that while you are in an SHA hotel, they do room checks to make sure you are resident. Is it like a curfew where you have to be in the room at a fixed time, or is it like "put in an appearance sometime during the night"? I'm a late night reveller, and I don't want a schedule to cramp my style.[/QUOTE]Warden comes by at 1 am and shines a torch through the patio door and I have to show a leg (doesn't have to be mine.).

Nah. The only form of monitoring is the Morchana app (like NHS test and trace app) and checking in with the hotel once a day, at my convenience. Nobody is actually checking I'm staying here. I'm not sure how much late night revelry you'll find though. Everything. Bars, restaurants, massage shops. Has to close by 11 pm. I've been told there's more life in the proper expat areas. Rawai, Laguna, Nanai Road here in Patong. But with best intentions, I haven't made it that way yet.

Day 7 and 8.

Day 7 started late, sleeping till lunch after Covid test and dropping CWB off. I drove down to Nai Harn beach after lunch (There's a grilled pork neck tuktuk that sets up on Beach Road that is the best thing I've ever tasted, I end up eating there at least once a day.) Nai Harn is absolutely beautiful and deserted compared to pictures I've seen. Maybe 200 people total spread around the beach. I'm able to park within stone's throw of a good sunbathing spot, which nicely solves the issue of 'what to do with my stuff when swimming. ' Old car with non-electronic key. Just chuck everything in the car. A few expats, tourists, but mostly Thai. Lots of pretty girls in bikinis, taking pictures of eachother.

Back to the hotel for a shower, grab into Patong, do a 'bar crawl' on Beach Road and the other main road behind it. There's maybe. 20/30 bars, hotels and restaurants open and serving alcohol. There's quite a few groups of unaccompanied (by males) Thai girls moving around that may be freelancing (probably are), but I've been told I'm pretty unapproachable (resting ***** face) and I have hangups about being such an obvious monger, stopping girls in the street / trying to pull them into a bar. The facemasks make things really difficult, you can't even smile at them! Old Thailand hands will probably have more success than me.

Everywhere on Bangla is now shut. Sweetie Bar was open for a few days, was starting to get a decent number of clientele. A few other bars on Bangla showed signs of opening. Sweeties was told they weren't allowed to serve alcohol yesterday. They opened tonight, only serving food. And were again, ordered to close. Apparently the logic is there's so many bars on Bangla if they all opened, everyone would pile there, there would be no social distancing etc. Seems like bollocks, given the big 'Welcome to Phuket' event on Patong Beach the other day, everyone packed together to watch the fireworks. It would seem fair to me to allow Sweeties to stay open and keep the others shut. They were the ones to open on the 1st, taking the risk.

Few prospects on Thai Friendly. Lots of the girls seem to have gone and / or remained nocturnal. Sleeping / uncontactable all day, active in the evening. Camwhoring and videochatting with guys in Europe and the US at night. After the abject failure of Surprise Spinner, I'm tired and leery of inviting a girl over 'sight unseen. ' Totally get where you guys are coming from, lamenting the closure of the go-gos and beer bars. It would be nice to sound a girl out first, check what the chemistry is going to be like.

Vague idea in mind of checking out Beach Road after 11 pm, see if I can spot some freelancers when things have 'quietened down' some.

I get a message from Bar Girl about 10:45 pm. She's driven her bike all the way to Phuket Town and back to buy me e-liquid for my vape. I had never thought to check the status of vaping in Thailand and it came as news to me the other day that it was illegal and carried a huge fine (I've been walking past the Rozzers, vaping away!) It's illegal in a lot of the Middle Eastern countries I've been, but I never expected it in a country where you walk into a pharmacy for paracetamol and get offered everything from Ritalin to Vicodin and Percocet. I was running low on juice, determined not to restart a 10 year, pack a day habit. And noticed Bar Girl vaped. I'd tried to buy it myself in Phuket Town, but just couldn't find the places I was directed to, so I asked BG.

Meet her outside the shuttered Sweetie Bar to get the liquid and pay her. She only wants the stickered price on the bottles. She asks "You want drink more or go to hotel?" I'm drunk, tired and feeling quite affectionate towards her. And she fucks like a pornstar. And she's right there. So, fuck it, jump on the back of her bike.

Ride the scooter all the way up to my room. Inside, it's normal BG service after a shower each. Snogging my face off, deepthroating, riding me to within an inch of my life. Again, alcohol and kamagra, I'm taking a while to cum. She's determined and I'm pretty much just lying there, letting her do all the work. Eventually, I do and we're just clinging to eachother, sweaty and panting and she's pleased as punch in my ear; "I win. ".

After, shower again, vape on the balcony. She's being all lovey-dovey, taking selfies with me, telling me about her Pandemic woes and I genuinely feel for her. Vague plans made to meet her again tomorrow for a bike driving lesson somewhere quiet. I really, really need to develop my 'mongering hardness' and learn to keep my drunk, post-orgasm 'mellow and affectionate' mouth shut.

Back inside, she's teasing me, kissing, grinding on me and I'm hard again, which she's pleased about. She says, "I have go, friend upset. And need to get pill. But I want sleep next time. " I give her 1000 thb for 'pharmacy' and she's off.

Day 8.

Sleep late, saved from my stupid mouth by absolutely torrential monsoon rains all day. Definitely not scooter riding days. Hide most of the day in room, only a brief sojourn out for lunch. By late afternoon, the rain has died off to a drizzle, so I drive into town to check out the massage places. Mostly older ladies, though a few young cute ones amongst them. Eventually, I stumble over the place where Missed Connection Spinner from the other day works. I go for a massage with the intention of just a rub-down and to get her Line.

Well, I get her Line, but I think I ruined my chances by thinking with my dick. Manage to talk her into 1500 thb for FS (yes, overpaying like fuck), even convince her for 'one little kiss. ' It's on with the condom for a BJ, then she strips off. Biggest boobs I've seen so far (a be maybe) and she's absolutely lovely. Fit and tight. I can see abdominal definition, which I like. Being an avid gym-goer myself, I love gym fit girls (I really need to get to Brazil and fuck some of those hardbody brancas.). Mounts me cowgirl and with no chemical assistance or alcohol in me, I cum in 5/10 minutes.

It was ok, not stellar. But unless I've been abstaining for a few days, I don't really enjoy these 'pump and dump' style encounters. I need more stimulation. After, we chat some more, me working the conversation always to getting her to come back with me. Turns out, she's from Isan and is heading home in four days for a couple of weeks. I think maybe it's not to be, but I will message her Line.

Go for food after, BG messaging me now the rain has stopped. She's out of work again, wants to meet me out for food. My 'hardness' has returned somewhat and I message back 'I like you. Cannot all the time. Message when I want. ' She says 'Ok, message me. ' Thankfully, silent since.

Back to the hotel for shower, change of clothes and to dump the car at about 6 pm. Bed looks too inviting and I think 'Nap for an hour or two, then back out for some drinks and to see if there's any SW action later than I've been staying out. ' Nearly all my encounters thus far have been late at night, running into the wee hours of the morning. And I can't seem to sleep later than about 9 am, no matter how late I'm up. So I'm accumulating a lot of fatigue.

I wake up about 12:30 am. Fucksake. Message a few girls, but I'm leery of trying out new prospects at this time of night. Unfinished business with Punky Tattooed Chick. And she's quick to respond.

Meet her at security about 1:20 am and my tame shuttle driver takes us up to my room. PTC is even more affectionate than last time, rolling around on the bed with me. Eventually, I go down on her and she gets extremely, extremely wet. So much so, I have to get a towel to put down. And I'm able to use her juices as lube to get a finger partway in her arse briefly. Two fingers in her pussy. I'm focusing on her clit with my tongue and she's pushing herself up and down the bed, 'fucking herself' on my fingers. Back arches and she goes tense when she cums, clenching down on my fingers, drenching my face. If she was faking it, she could have faked it sooner. I was down there for 30/40 fuckin' minutes!

After she recovers, she pulls me up to lie next to her. On the way, I smear her grool all over her flat little stomach and it's an amazing visual. Long kiss with no cleanup at her instigation, then she goes down on me. Decent blowjob, but not deep. After a few minutes at her own instigation again, she mounts me cowgirl and clings to me, no mention of condom this time. A real slow, 'grindy' fuck. I'm getting close, but unfinished business. I lift her off and get the lube. She's not keen, but we try.

Her on her side, me fingering her arse. She gives it the good old college try. I get my finger all the way in this time, but I just can't get her to relax and I'm too impatient. I think if I want anal, I'm going to need to find a girl who's done it before. Previous girlfriends who've done it with me before knew what they were doing, so I've never experienced introducing a girl to it before. Maybe I'm just not 'hard' enough, but I hate causing the little cuties pain.

Give it up, slide back into her in spoons position. When I cum, she makes cute little 'mmm' noises and we stay like that for a good while. Eventually, pull apart, shower, dress and then we smoke on balcony, me stealing a cigarette from her. Her oral hygiene is great. I had no idea she smoked.

Back inside, she climbs into the bed (I had the air-conditioning set too cold), I lie down beside her and she snuggles in. Wake up an hour later to 10 missed calls on her phone from her friend who came to pick her up. Ooops. Walk her down, then back and crash out. Paid her 1500 thb again.

Today, tourist shit and I'm 100% not getting a repeat over. New girl. Either a TF, or I'll make more of an effort to see if there's any street freelance action going on.

No plan where I'm going next, I'm waiting to see what happens with this mooted lockdown. It may end up being better staying here, but my flight out is direct from BKK. In great news though, UK has announced from 17th of July, fully vaccinated returning from an amber country no longer have to home quarantine, so I might look at extending my trip a week. I was returning to the UK with enough time to do the 10 day home 'quarantine' before an event I have to attend.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2578217]Thanks guys. Who would have thought an English Lit. Degree would come in handy for writing smutty accounts of mongering adventures. It's been fuck all use for anything else. I drive ships for a living!

Warden comes by at 1 am and shines a torch through the patio door and I have to show a leg (doesn't have to be mine.).

Nah. The only form of monitoring is the Morchana app (like NHS test and trace app) and checking in with the hotel once a day, at my convenience. Nobody is actually checking I'm staying here. I'm not sure how much late night revelry you'll find though. Everything. Bars, restaurants, massage shops. Has to close by 11 pm. I've been told there's more life in the proper expat areas. Rawai, Laguna, Nanai Road here in Patong. But with best intentions, I haven't made it that way yet.

Everywhere on Bangla is now shut. Sweetie Bar was open for a few days, was starting to get a decent number of clientele. A few other bars on Bangla showed signs of opening. Sweeties was told they weren't allowed to serve alcohol yesterday. They opened tonight, only serving food. And were again, ordered to close. Apparently the logic is there's so many bars on Bangla if they all opened, everyone would pile there, there would be no social distancing etc. Seems like bollocks, given the big 'Welcome to Phuket' event on Patong Beach the other day, everyone packed together to watch the fireworks. It would seem fair to me to allow Sweeties to stay open and keep the others shut. They were the ones to open on the 1st, taking the risk.

Vague idea in mind of checking out Beach Road after 11 pm, see if I can spot some freelancers when things have 'quietened down' some.

Meet her outside the shuttered Sweetie Bar to get the liquid and pay her. She only wants the stickered price on the bottles. She asks "You want drink more or go to hotel?" I'm drunk, tired and feeling quite affectionate towards her. And she fucks like a pornstar. And she's right there. So, fuck it, jump on the back of her bike.

Maybe I'm just not 'hard' enough, but I hate causing the little cuties pain.

[/QUOTE]I've scaled down your excellent. Post I can assure that when I do my trip reports, they will be nowhere as readable as yours are.

Anyway, thanks for the info on the room check. Regarding late night revelry, I am hoping (and presuming) that this will improve as I get nearer to my arrival. Totally agree with you about Sweetie. If these people are prepared to take the chance, then why not let them do it as part of a phased reopening. I am not sure that many won't cancel their bookings if the place is still a ghost town in a month's time. BTW, anyone thinking of booking a flight might want to consider Qatar Airlines. The cancellation policy is that you can get a full cash refund as long as you cancel at least three hours ahead of departure time.

You don't want to cause the girl pain? Good for you. Nothing wrong with a bit of compassion.

Based on my own plans, I have already made a number of contacts on TF, but if the bars don't reopen I will probably cancel my trip. Not a criticism of you, but I gave up the butterfly holiday some time ago. I've often found that regular changes often lead to regrets in that yesterday's model was so much better. If I find one that I really like, I tend to stick with them. But with everything closed, I just can't see me.

Spending 24/7 in a hotel. I am more barfly than beach bunny and with the rainy season to deal with, I really don't look forward to no bars or nightlife.

Thanks again for your reply. I'd be grateful if you can advise me if the situation changes, for better or for worse.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2578339] Based on my own plans, I have already made a number of contacts on TF, but if the bars don't reopen I will probably cancel my trip. Not a criticism of you, but I gave up the butterfly holiday some time ago. I've often found that regular changes often lead to regrets in that yesterday's model was so much better. If I find one that I really like, I tend to stick with them. But with everything closed, I just can't see me.

Spending 24/7 in a hotel. I am more barfly than beach bunny and with the rainy season to deal with, I really don't look forward to no bars or nightlife.

Thanks again for your reply. I'd be grateful if you can advise me if the situation changes, for better or for worse.[/QUOTE]100% get where you're coming from on the nightlife. Despite the closure of Sweeties, I think it's slowly been improving while I've been here though. Maybe 30-40 customers in each bar in the evening, versus maybe just two on the first few days. There were definitely some freelance chicks working the bars last night, two even sat with me for a minute (before the girl I was with chased them away.).

On the repeating / sticking with a girl you like thing, I understand that completely. I think I just lucked out with Punky Tattooed Chick and Cutie With a Booty and I'm tempted to just rotate between them for the remainder of my time in Phuket, because.

Day 9.

Rained all morning and into the early afternoon, properly torrential downpour. Died off to a drizzle in the mid-afternoon and I was bored of lazing around my hotel room. Got talking to a TF girl who looked like 'a good girl. ' Maybe a little plain, but cute, spoke English well. Quite busty, 5'6, 120 lbs, no tattoos. From Issan, no children, flat stomach and curvy. Same age as me - 32.

So, bored and trying to overcome my reticence of being seen in public with Thai girls, I invited her to go for coffee at a little place on Kamala beach. Picked her up and she was 100% the girl in the pictures, no filters used which is nice. On the drive to the beach, we talked. I think there was some mis-understanding during the TF / line conversation, because this time when I asked her what she did for work she said 'Massage. '.

FFS. Thought I was breaking into the non-pro scene. Regardless, we haven't talked money and she seems set on having a good time. Good Time Girl. GTG.

Anyway, she was funny and cute. At the beach cafe, I ordered coffee for the first drink. She ordered a cocktail, which she put away in short order. Second drink, I had a cocktail too and she put away another. I'm thinking this girl will be fun to drink with.

Jump back in the car and drive back to the hotel, stopping for street food on the way. Nice to have a 'guide' doing the ordering, telling me what different things are, making suggestions.

Ditch the car, grab to Patong beach. Start in a restaurant at the far end (Lamai I think it's called). Quite busy, but expensive. I limit her to beer after seeing the price of the first cocktails we have, but even that's a ripoff. Make our way down the beach, stopping at one place part-way down for one drink, then head to the 'best bar' I've found so far in Patong. Right on the corner, across from the big 'Patong Beach' sign.

I sit down outside, she goes to the toilet. Rain suddenly kicks in and I move inside. Joined at my table my two Thai girls in high heels and little dresses. One short and chubby, the other a leggy little spinner. We've barely said two words, not even got past the 'Where you from?' before GTG comes back from the toilet. Short, sharp utterance from GTG the gist of which I imagine was 'leave now before I drag you outside by your hair extensions. '.

GTG is now sulking with me, but she cheers up when I say we can have 'cocktails. ' She calls rum and coke a cocktail and it's reasonable here compared to other places. So we lay into the rum and coke, GTG going drink for drink with me and probably holding it better! She's pretty easy to talk to, holding up her end of the conversation and asking questions. We're both getting drunk, but I want to check out a couple of places on the road behind Beach Road. She finds it really funny when I explain the concept and etymology of a 'bar crawl. '.

Hit a few more places and I get the evils from the waitress at the K Hotel I've been flirting with. GTG keeps ordering weird drinks, some of which she doesn't like. Some odd concoction of sparkling wine and peach juice. She gets them down like a trooper though.

11 pm comes, we're both steaming. I ask her if she wants to go home, or come back to hotel and drink more. Big grin, 'Drink more!' She gets us a bike taxi, taking care of arguing the price down. I'm skeptical of going 'threeup' on the scooter, but I suppose my 170 lb and her 120 lb adds up to one typical farang! My vape has run out of battery by this point and she now wants to smoke too, 'only when drunk. ' 7/11 by my hotel is closed when we get there, so she sends off the taxi to another. He's back quickly, costs me another 100 thb.

Shuttle bus up to the room and as soon as we're inside, I kiss her and get my hands all over her. She's told me she runs on the beach every morning and does callisthenic workouts. It shows. Tight, trim and curvy.

We move to sit on the balcony, laying into the vodka and coke and smoking like chimmneys. Music on, laughing, flirting. Kiwi Girl next door definitely hates me! At one point, we're both sat out there topless. (Me because she wanted to see my tattoos, her because I wanted to see her boobs and they are lovely.) She gives me a massage and she's really good. I give her one, mainly on her arse which is full and firm. She's laughing at my boner, squeezing and prodding at it. I want to go to bed, she wants to drink more. Well, fuck it.

Between us, on top of the skin-full we've already had, we polish off a bottle of Vodka and four big bottles of Chang. When she stands up to go to the toilet, her legs go. She's steaming, I'm steaming. Help her to the toilet, then to the bed. Collapse next to her, both fully dressed, she cuddles in and we're out.

In the morning, I have a massive case of the hangover horn. We're sleeping in spoons, so I 'nudge' GTG awake with it. I've got my hands all over her. Get her t-shirt and bra off, she's giving me a lazy handjob behind her back. Start in on her shorts and 'No boomboom, period. ' Most likely, a lie.

Well, fuck. Ok, blowjob. 'No have condom. ' Well, that's ok. You're only sucking my dick sweetie. 'Condom for blowjob. ' YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME.

Well, breakfast is included with the service, but it's continental. Grab a muffin and fuck off.

'Ok, you go. I tired. ' I'm too hungover and annoyed to care. Point her in the right direction from my door and go back to sleep. As I'm writing this, my phone is buzzing with lovey-dovey messages and selfies she took with me last night. Leaving them on read.

Didn't give her any money, not even taxi. Total damage for the night's carnage was maybe 3000 thb. Despite not actually getting laid, I had fun. And I still really want to fuck her. But she's going to need a major attitude adjustment for me to give her another chance.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2578503]
In the morning, I have a massive case of the hangover horn. We're sleeping in spoons, so I 'nudge' GTG awake with it. I've got my hands all over her. Get her t-shirt and bra off, she's giving me a lazy handjob behind her back. Start in on her shorts and 'No boomboom, period. ' Most likely, a lie.

Well, fuck. Ok, blowjob. 'No have condom. ' Well, that's ok. You're only sucking my dick sweetie. 'Condom for blowjob. ' YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME.

Didn't give her any money, not even taxi. Total damage for the night's carnage was maybe 3000 thb. Despite not actually getting laid, I had fun. And I still really want to fuck her. But she's going to need a major attitude adjustment for me to give her another chance.[/QUOTE]This is Thailand.

Even the best plans can be thwarted on any given night.

So, bars are NOT open in Phuket and are NOT serving alcohol?

[QUOTE=JJanni;2578503]100% get where you're coming from on the nightlife. Despite the closure of Sweeties, I think it's slowly been improving while I've been here though. Maybe 30-40 customers in each bar in the evening, versus maybe just two on the first few days. There were definitely some freelance chicks working the bars last night, two even sat with me for a minute (before the girl I was with chased them away.).

On the repeating / sticking with a girl you like thing, I understand that completely. I think I just lucked out with Punky Tattooed Chick and Cutie With a Booty and I'm tempted to just rotate between them for the remainder of my time in Phuket, because.

Day 9.


Anyway, she was funny and cute. At the beach cafe, I ordered coffee for the first drink. She ordered a cocktail, which she put away in short order. Second drink, I had a cocktail too and she put away another. I'm thinking this girl will be fun to drink with.

I sit down outside, she goes to the toilet. Rain suddenly kicks in and I move inside. Joined at my table my two Thai girls in high heels and little dresses. One short and chubby, the other a leggy little spinner. We've barely said two words, not even got past the 'Where you from?' before GTG comes back from the toilet.

Between us, on top of the skin-full we've already had, we polish off a bottle of Vodka and four big bottles of Chang. When she stands up to go to the toilet, her legs go. She's steaming, I'm steaming. Help her to the toilet, then to the bed. Collapse next to her, both fully dressed, she cuddles in and we're out. [/QUOTE]I never understand enforcement and Thailand. They close Sweetie because they are worried about people not observing social distancing, and then you mention bars with 30-40 customers. Could tea money have anything to do with that? Anyway, if you are not too impaired, I'd be grateful for the names of any bars you recall. I'm on Youtube most days looking for signs of life on Bangla Rd, and it's not a pretty site. It looks like the bailiffs have moved in and carried out a mass eviction. Signs of life will guide my decision to follow up on my trip.

As far as sticking with the same girl is concerned, I am at an age where I haven't got too many more trips in me. So quality rather than quantity of the trip is the guiding light.

Regardless of the closure of bars, it's good to see that there are girls who are pro-actively "job-seeking". I always refer to the "Where you from", as "the job interview". I try be an equal opportunities employer, and even though most of the applicants don't know where Ireland is, I am patient enough to educate them about that and other issue. S.

Regarding your epic drinking feats, I am going to have to get back into condition. I recently had my first drink in a pub in 15 months. Four pints of Guinness and I was trashed.

Keep on, keeping on.

From the Thaiger. Some woman sat next to a man who tested positive for covid on plane. She was made to quarantine in a different hotel for two weeks. New hotel was 3 times the price as original hotel and not as nice. It's a terrible way to treat a tourist. No govt official has spoken to her. The receptionist at first hotel told her. Actions like this make Thailand look horrible. Why would anyone go there for vacation after seeing this? I love Thailand but it's a shitty place now.

Spend a bunch of money and get treated like shit.

[URL]https://youtu.be/_91SYF456UU[/URL]

I get that Thailand is really suffering now. Maybe they should say no tourists until they are better vaccinated.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2578675]From the Thaiger. Some woman sat next to a man who tested positive for covid on plane. She was made to quarantine in a different hotel for two weeks. New hotel was 3 times the price as original hotel and not as nice. It's a terrible way to treat a tourist. No govt official has spoken to her. The receptionist at first hotel told her. Actions like this make Thailand look horrible. Why would anyone go there for vacation after seeing this? I love Thailand but it's a shitty place now.

Spend a bunch of money and get treated like shit.

[URL]https://youtu.be/_91SYF456UU[/URL]

I get that Thailand is really suffering now. Maybe they should say no tourists until they are better vaccinated.[/QUOTE]Regarding your post, there have since been two now Farang infections on Phuket, though there are no real details on these. Here is what I posted on Thaiger which might give those considering the trip, something to think about:

"I understand the average monthly salary is in the region of 10 k THB. I am just wondering how a local can afford to be off work for two weeks and pay 4 months salary to go into an enforced ALQ?

There is a real problem with the reporting of these stories in that the info is being received piecemeal. This is the first time I've actually read that the round-ups are including Thais. But why not the aircrew too? Were these 15 internees from the Emirates flight the entire passenger manifest of that flight? Or were there those in Biz /1 sr Class who were deemed safe? Why on a plane with about 300+ economy seats were all these people seated so closely together? I understand that 13 or 14 were in a family group, but did the German lady asked to be seated next to others for the company? How did these two new Farang infections arrive? Have all their close contacts been traced and rounded up?

I can understand a lot of the strategy behind the Thai need to isolate suspects, but surely these cases can be adequately by additional tests on say day's 4 and seven. I understand that currently, all sandbox entrants are required to retest on day 7. If day 7 is good enough to absolutely clear these people, why is it not good enough to clear the other 14 close contacts?

Ireland is starting to show signs of a new wave, Today there was a new infection rate of about 1 per 8 k. By comparison, Phuket looks very good at 1 per 44 k today as compared to the Thai overall total of about 1 per 7500. Even that is far better than the UK at about 1 per 2100. But the overall look of Thailand in general reminds me of watching a disaster movie where a dam is showing cracks and is about to burst, and the greatest stress fracture appears to be above Phuket.

I have a flight booked to arrive on Aug 5th, Right now, I am 90% certain to cancel this. Fortunately, I don't need to make a decision now as I can cancel up to three hours prior to take off and get a full cash refund. But if I knew then, what I know now, I would not have been so swift to get the CC out. ".

Story here: [URL]https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/phuket-sandbox-woes-2-foreign-covid-19-cases-delta-variant[/URL].

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2578524]This is Thailand.

Even the best plans can be thwarted on any given night.

So, bars are NOT open in Phuket and are NOT serving alcohol?[/QUOTE]There's a lots open other than on Bangla Road. They're all doing the pretence of 'selling food. ' If you sit down and just order a drink, they put some peanuts on your table.

I'm 50/50 on staying here another two weeks, or heading over your way to Pattaya on the 15th. I haven't fully researched the logistics / legality of it, with the new lockdown areas and cancelled flights. My flight home is from BKK, so I need to move on at some point.

Considering renting a car one way and making the drive over a couple of days.

I feel like the girls are too spread out here and the logistics of getting them to and from me are a pain.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2578575]I never understand enforcement and Thailand. They close Sweetie because they are worried about people not observing social distancing, and then you mention bars with 30-40 customers. Could tea money have anything to do with that? Anyway, if you are not too impaired, I'd be grateful for the names of any bars you recall. I'm on Youtube most days looking for signs of life on Bangla Rd, and it's not a pretty site. It looks like the bailiffs have moved in and carried out a mass eviction. Signs of life will guide my decision to follow up on my trip.

As far as sticking with the same girl is concerned, I am at an age where I haven't got too many more trips in me. So quality rather than quantity of the trip is the guiding light.

Regardless of the closure of bars, it's good to see that there are girls who are pro-actively "job-seeking". I always refer to the "Where you from", as "the job interview". I try be an equal opportunities employer, and even though most of the applicants don't know where Ireland is, I am patient enough to educate them about that and other issue. S.

Regarding your epic drinking feats, I am going to have to get back into condition. I recently had my first drink in a pub in 15 months. Four pints of Guinness and I was trashed.

Keep on, keeping on.[/QUOTE]Off the top of my head, the bars / restaurants / hotels open and selling alcohol in central Patong / the beach are Lamai on the front, an Irish bar, a place called Tropikal near the big Patong Beach sign (probably the best out of the bunch, in terms of price and patronage. It's where I ran into the freelancers) and on the other road behind it, a bistro type place ran by a French / Belgian guy, Lokal (old K hotel), one or two other places.

There's definitely more life in the expat areas. Nanai Road, Phuket Town, Rawai, Laguna. And if I were you, I'd look at staying there. Lots of the girls seem to be Rawai, too. I'm not the best person to ask about bars and the 'night life. ' I'm not a habitual drinker / bar fly, don't even touch a drop most days. I'm a once a week (if that) weekend millionaire binge drinker.

Day 10.

Another bust, weather-wise. Sideways monsoon rains all day. Hid in the hotel room most of the day dozing off the hangover, with the odd foray out for food (even the street food stalls had given up, so I ended up in a proper restaurant for once) and a drive around to check for signs of life. Barely anybody around.

Punky Tattooed Chick messaged again asking to come over and stay the night. No mention of money (we'd never agreed a long time price.) She turned up about 10 pm with an overnight bag, looking cute as fuck in 'PJs' of sweatpants and tanktop. After the frustrations with Good Time Girl, I couldn't keep my hands off of her in the shuttle up to the room.

Just over the threshold, she grabs and kisses me. Hand down her pants and the crotch of her panties are wet. I don't know what it is about her. She's either a nympho ready to go at the drop of a hat, or we just 'click. ' Whatever, I like it!

Spin her around and bend her down over the desk, in front of the mirror. Trousers and panties around her ankles, it's wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am and I unload my frustration into her. After, we shower together and I'm glad I'm not paying the waterbill. She's in there at least 5-10 minutes after I go to dry off, getting super-dooper clean.

When she comes out, I finally notice she's changed her hair colour. First time, it was light purple. Second time, she was blonde. Now, she's gone to a dark purple colour. On the bed, more kissing, foreplay, rolling around. I'm fingering her and she's soaking again. She shyly asks if I will 'lick. ' I love that. Both a boost to my pride over my oral prowess and it gives the encounter a real 'GFE' feel. Most working girls I've seen in the UK rarely take that kind of initiative, they just want you in and out and would happily whack the condom on and jump on your dick without anything else.

So of course, I comply. I've 'learned' what she likes now. As many fingers as I can get in her (I manage four this time, but I've got small hands / fingers) pressed into her slow and deep, along with sucking and firm tonguing of her clit. She cums much faster this time. Maybe 15-20 minutes.

Leave her semi-comatose on the bed, go to clean up. My beard all matted with her grool makes me laugh. Back on the bed, she goes down on me. An OK blowjob, but they're not really my 'thing. ' They feel nice, but I'm not wasting my load into her mouth when there's a tight, wet little pussy on offer. Missionary, her legs around my waist. And I copy what I've learned she likes with my fingers, slow, deep grind into her, getting faster as I get closer. She seems to enjoy, kissing me the whole time and scratching at my back. I think she cums again. I certainly do.

After, shower again, this time separately. She comes out in her PJs, which I think is pretty cute. After I shower, we smoke on the balcony (she's a bad influence.) Good oral hygiene though. She spends another ten minutes brushing her teeth and gargling mouth wash.

In the bed, lights off, cuddle up. I ask her about her OnlyFans (she asked me to supp. , so I said I want a preview). She shows me some stuff, I take the phone from her and explore through the messages and requests she gets on there and Thai Friendly. Some proper sad perverts out there (I think the worst were Brits haha), and it's giving me a thrill, thinking of all the guys 5000 miles away professing love to her. And she's here, in my bed for the third time.

Fall asleep quickly. In the morning, she's the one to wake me up with her hand squeezing at my morning wood behind her back. Round three begins. Touching, kissing, undressing her again. For the third time, I'm amazed at how wet, how quickly she gets.

Three fingers in her, grinding in slow and deep. And I use my other hand to drag hers down to her clit, guiding her to rub herself. She gets off. We're still in spoons position, so after a few minutes, she pulls my fingers out of her, then reaches back and guides me in. Slow screw, but after cumming twice last night, it's not doing it for me. Into missionary so I can get deeper, really grinding into her. I cum, lie there with her jabbering in my ear for a few minutes. Then it's off for separate showers.

After, another smoke on the balcony, a hug. And she's off to get picked up by her friend. She's halfway down the corridor from my room before I remember I haven't given her anything. Call her back and slip 2000 thb into her purse. Worth it.

Raining again today. And there's a distinct lack of 'things to do' in the rain. Hotel is much busier than it was the first time I got here, lots of families. I don't 'feel' like I can get a girl over during the day. I think the hotel has been turning a blind eye to my activities because I've been so 'discreet,' sneaking in the girls after all the non-degenerates have gone to bed. Sitting on the shuttle bus at 11 am with a girl / walking her up the steep road past all the families at breakfast on their balconies might be too much. And they'll suddenly remember the 500 thb joiner fee / check on vaccination status that scared me the first night.

It's effort, too. Girls are all spread out and getting them up here is an effort, so I'm leery of trying out a new girl after my experience with Good Time Girl and Surprise Spinner.

Still haven't made plans what I'm doing after I'm released from the Sandbox on the 15th. And I'm not even sure what will be possible, given the new lockdown areas. I need to do my research. Contenders are:

1. Fly to BKK, couple of days in a hotel, then move down to Pattaya and get an Airbnb / condo. Lots more 18/19/20 year old spinners showing on TF than in Phuket.

2. Rent a car one way and do the drive to Pattaya over a couple of days, a few days off of the mongering.

3. Stay in Phuket, move into a rental / AirBnB in the Rawai area.

4. Fly to Chiang Mai.

My flight home is from BKK on the 28th.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2578862]I'm 50/50 on staying here another two weeks, or heading over your way to Pattaya on the 15th.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for your reviews, JJ.

I'm guessing you're better off staying in Phuket. Imminent lock down coming for BKK and Chonburi.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2578675]Some woman sat next to a man who tested positive for covid on plane. She was made to quarantine in a different hotel for two weeks. New hotel was 3 times the price as original hotel [/QUOTE]That is awful and really unlucky for this lady. She said there are 14 people in the ALQ hotel and the covid guy was traveling with a family of 12 or 13. Hotel budget blown. Instead of 6 weeks at the sandbox hotel she uses that money for 2 weeks ALQ.

Context: I arrived in Patong on July 3rd as part of the Sandbox program. So I am giving a synthetic presentation of the 3 days I just spent here, I understood that some were interested in feedback. I paid the price for the start of the registration procedures which were chaotic to say the least. I am well aware that I am a Guinea pig (and even a pig at all) in the development of the opening to tourism of Thailand. But I intend to make up for it. Anyway, for the moment, I'm pretty happy.

I'm only talking about Patong, not Thailand in general. This testimony is warm, personal, it is necessarily subjective, incomplete, it is a photograph of a very short duration.

State of play: that those who cannot imagine Patong without gogos bars in Bangla road and those who are a little depressed wait a little longer before coming because their case could get worse. 95% of Patong is closed, it looks like a disaster has just happened (like a virus that destroyed humanity for example).

The stage being set, let's get down to business. The remaining 5% of activity is concentrated in spots. So, in the hotel where I am, there are a few tourists which gives the impression of vacation. Likewise, a few restaurants are open on the beach road. Tourists, expats and also pretty Thaies. And we also serve alcohol. Everything seems (almost) as before in these few places.

Otherwise, between 2 meals, I was able to have dates. First source from Paris: Thayfriendly. Do not be too de-illuzion (connoisseurs will appreciate the spelling), for my part I collect 90% of waste on these dating sites (photos where they were young, thin and beautiful but that was before, financial claims really unreasonable, crappy dates, etc.). But some succeed.

Otherwise, in Patong, a lot of massage parlors are open. It's best to make your choice in situ. A few girls in each living room but it's not the crowd. Enough, however, to find the perfect fit. This is still where I have had my best encounters. 7 touches in 3 days and the day is not over. I would like to point out that I hired a motobike, which is essential for getting around because you have to travel a long way to go around the massage parlors, everything else being closed. And then also the time to decide, it is necessary to plan to make the same turn several times. I saw a few 7/11's, laundry and other small businesses open, enough for my needs.

The prices have gone down. Patong has a tradition of being historically expensive. Right now I have found some ST 1000 or even LT 1200 baht quite easily. A lot of reminders to ask me what happened much less before (I must say that I am old hehe).

In summary, I would say that despite this hallucinating (pinch me, I'm having a nightmare) situation, there are opportunities but you have to look for it and prepare yourself well. I would say that even then, it is much better to be in Patong in the event of covid than in Marrakech or Cuba under normal circumstances.

Of course the following is only my humble testimony, I apologize in advance if I sometimes use words that may offend you (although I think you have thick leather, rascals bands) .

The Thaies know how to lie, moreover they do only that most of the time. But on the other hand, they have more difficulty in simulating (I would say that in France it is the opposite, they do not know how to lie but they know how to fake). So the other night, my little masseuse took my cock with disgust and it was with many faces that she took the end of my penis between her lips while jerking me nervously. What she didn't know, and what I didn't tell her (and how do I translate that?) Was that it turned me on even more. Maybe my Marquis de Sade side that slumbers inside me. She got heartbroken and almost threw up when she picked up my used condom. Mmmmmm I'll be back honey, loved it.

I will tell you another day about all the others who sigh with pleasure in my ear when I climb on them.

On the 4th day of Sandbox for the moment everything is going perfectly. I have plenty of appointments in Patong that I will not all be able to honor because I am leaving for Rawai on Saturday. Without counting all those that I promise to see again and I will not have time, my God. But to choose is to give up and you have to be strong. I am also on Tinder but nothing is going, very weak reactivity and especially a lot of ladyboys (so much the better for those who like) that I take for real women in the photos, they know how to be the buggers.

Honestly, at the moment I don't regret all the sacrifices to come. The people are super available, welcoming, smiling, happy to see tourists and the prices are at the bottom. 1000/1400 Bahts for nice little lots, around 2000 (negotiable especially if you are young, not like me) the LT for quality gogos calibers. Hotel prices are to match. In short, in my opinion, if you have the opportunity, do not hesitate to go for it!

As I said before, a lot of things closed, gogos closed, but. This is Thailand folks. The motivated, you can come, you will find what you are looking for, that's for sure.

From Paris I made my plan: 14 days in Phuket and hop off I head to earth in Pattaya, my beloved city where I have all my habits. Yes but, of all the echoes that I can have, I have doubts, I have pangs now My friend present on the spot tells me that everything is closed, the cases of covid explode, the city will turn red, there are police raids in massage parlors, beach road is deserted (I didn't go there much before), Walking street is black at night. Only a few brothels, covid cluster nests, are open. Not very horny all this. While in Phuket everyone is vaccinated, Rawai seems completely open, I went there this afternoon, and in Patong you can find what you are looking for with a minimum of adaptation. Also, people are relaxed, and I like the hippie and surfer setting of the straw huts in Rawai (where there are great hotels by the way). A cocktail on the edge of the beach facing the sunset, with the hug assured with a beautiful, 'tin I've been waiting for this for 1 year and a half! In short, I'm maturing my plans to change them and stay 1 month in Phuket instead. In Thailand I can change everything at the last moment, adapt to my circumstances and my desires. Only in Thailand.

Well, it's clear that right now you have to be motivated to come to Phuket. Motivated by something other than the weather and that's another idea of vacations. Kinds of holidays of the 3rd type, straight out of a disaster science fiction film (a formidable virus has decimated the entire planet, I remind you). Everyone is dead except me who managed to survive. Not me, okay.

This morning, to celebrate my 6th day, I was invited (well, it was better that I go) to a small party at the "Phuket Swab Center" everything is said in the title. Meet at 11:30 am near Phuket Town, I preferred to leave my hotel at 10:00 am. Good luck because when I got to Central Phuket Floresta, a big shopping mall, no one knew where the Swab Center was. I must say right away that everyone is remarkably kind, I dare not imagine the same circuit in Paris to deal with the bad humor and indifference of the people. After hospital searches I arrive at a barrier but no, I arrive too early, I have to wait for the opening of the Central. I was the first in the line. 30 minutes later, when I arrive in the Swab center, I see that there are already people waiting to be checked in. My thoughts are racing in my head, how did they go? Amazing Thailand. I am handed a number, that will be my order of passage. I guess everyone is smiling behind the masks. In any case we do not stop greeting each other, frankly I feel that the heart is there. Everyone has good will and the Thais are compassionate to see us waiting submissive like animals at the slaughterhouse.

I think the Thai hospital administration was formed in France. 1 hour wait to register and 3. 5 seconds to have your nose swept.

The cloud will not wait for him and it is in a torrential rain that I return to Patong. I remind you that I am on a scooter.

For the trouble I went to console myself directly for a massage (with boom boom) at my little Nong (23 years old) so lovely that I offered to become her sugar daddy, luckily she laughed and didn't believe me.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2578862]
Still haven't made plans what I'm doing after I'm released from the Sandbox on the 15th. And I'm not even sure what will be possible, given the new lockdown areas. I need to do my research. Contenders are:
1. Fly to BKK, couple of days in a hotel, then move down to Pattaya and get an Airbnb / condo. Lots more 18/19/20 year old spinners showing on TF than in Phuket.
2. Rent a car one way and do the drive to Pattaya over a couple of days, a few days off of the mongering.
3. Stay in Phuket, move into a rental / AirBnB in the Rawai area.
4. Fly to Chiang Mai.
My flight home is from BKK on the 28th.[/QUOTE]Fly to Pattaya, rent a condo there and avoid BKK.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2578862]
Still haven't made plans what I'm doing after I'm released from the Sandbox on the 15th. And I'm not even sure what will be possible, given the new lockdown areas. I need to do my research.

My flight home is from BKK on the 28th.[/QUOTE]Exactly the same for me. The only one difference is my flight on 29th.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2576195]So, as it turns out, CWB meant she would do a threesome. But not with this girl, who shall henceforth be known as PTC (Punky Tattooed Chick.) Turns out, PTC was her very best friend. And she even strongly hinted she didn't want me to even see PTC.

She's definitely my type. Punky vibe, purple hair, tattoos and facial piercings. I think she's shorter than CWB, but with a tiny bit more flesh on her bones. Very sweet natured too.[/QUOTE]Dude,

Loving the reports and sounds so awesome. Got my visa done and coming down on the 28th. Can't wait to check out the attractions after a torrid dry spell in Germany.

My request is to kindly share details of PTC via a PM. And if it's not possible then please do let me know where I could look her up amongst the herd.

As for me, I've got a few Suzy Wong women currently based in Phuket to satisfy the need, but perhaps they will demand a higher return on investment including dinner and blah blah blah.

But will only finalize with them when I land since everything else is technically just bullshit LOL.

Thanks for the tips on visa etc.

Used it and got mine done.

Now for the dream to come true.

Janni, I have enjoyed reading your trip reports. Thanks for letting us know what it is like being in Phuket this rainy season.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2578862]There's a lots open other than on Bangla Road.

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Still haven't made plans what I'm doing after I'm released from the Sandbox on the 15th. And I'm not even sure what will be possible, given the new lockdown areas. I need to do my research. Contenders are:

1. Fly to BKK, couple of days in a hotel, then move down to Pattaya and get an Airbnb / condo. Lots more 18/19/20 year old spinners showing on TF than in Phuket.

2. Rent a car one way and do the drive to Pattaya over a couple of days, a few days off of the mongering.

3. Stay in Phuket, move into a rental / AirBnB in the Rawai area.

4. Fly to Chiang Mai.

My flight home is from BKK on the 28th.[/QUOTE]You are much better informed than Moi on current conditions and on what you specifically like, but if I were in your position, I would skip option #1 BKK and option #4 Chiang Mai for sure. BKK is going into another lockdown and it has no beach so forgetaboutit. Chiang Mai is a BYO kind of place especially now so forgetaboutit too.

That leaves you with option #2 & option #3 both of which sound kind of good to me. Option #2 provided you can find a one way car rental, would have a lot of sightseeing plus you can take your time and stop off in Hua Hin on the way to Pattaya. Option #3 sounds good too ie just keep doing what you are doing and have a good time until the day before your scheduled flight back home when it will be time to get up to BKK.

With the Covid measures in place Pattaya probably is only marginally better than Phuket girly wise, but Phuket has many beautiful beaches which at the present time are left almost all to yourself which is a once in a lifetime event. I know because I was in Rio de Janeiro in April during their lockdown and all the beautiful RJ beaches were semi deserted and all mine. It was amazing.

Remember that in Pattaya you will need to find a hotel with a decent swimming pool. The Beach in Pattaya looks good, but you can't go in the water unless you are out of your friggin' mind. LOL. So, I seem to be leaning towards option #3: staying in Phuket, but option #2 driving up the Kra Isthmus, seeing the sights, stopping off in Hua Hin for a night or 2 or 3, and driving to Pattaya is not bad idea at all.

I look forward to reading about your ultimate decision either way. 555. Stay safe and have a great time.

NB.

[QUOTE=SoberWorld;2578986]As for me, I've got a few Suzy Wong women currently based in Phuket to satisfy the need, but perhaps they will demand a higher return on investment including dinner and blah blah blah.
[/QUOTE]One of my Phuket favorites is a Suzy Wong girl. Long ago she went to Isaan and hasn't returned, same as many others. When I talk to her about going back to Phuket she only says "no money in Phuket". Have you recently verified that your Suzy Wong girls are still in Phuket?

Gentlemen. All of you in Phuket are now trailblazers. All the bars close at 11 so there is no need for bar fines now. You all have a chance to reset the prices. Don't get me wrong if you find a young stunner 10+++pay her what you feel, but don't go crazy. We all know there are not that many Unicorns in Phuket. 1500 be for short time. Make it happen. You have the power. Don't give in. Stay focused. This is for the greater good as us that follow will will maintain the new market price.

Yes, with Phuket and it's citizens and businesses suffering like never before let's encourage cheapness by tourists. Let's bankrupt bars that haven't made money in over a year. Probably long term it's terrible for everyone

[QUOTE=Dumbass;2579106]Gentlemen. All of you in Phuket are now trailblazers. All the bars close at 11 so there is no need for bar fines now. You all have a chance to reset the prices. Don't get me wrong if you find a young stunner 10+++pay her what you feel, but don't go crazy. We all know there are not that many Unicorns in Phuket. 1500 be for short time. Make it happen. You have the power. Don't give in. Stay focused. This is for the greater good as us that follow will will maintain the new market price.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horatio;2579118]Yes, with Phuket and it's citizens and businesses suffering like never before let's encourage cheapness by tourists. Let's bankrupt bars that haven't made money in over a year. Probably long term it's terrible for everyone[/QUOTE]All due respect. Read what I wrote. I did not say don't travel there, I did not say don't get a manicure. I did not say don't eat at restaurants, don't take tours, do not rent scooters, don't buy drinks, don't get a massage on the beach, don't buy souvenirs.

I said reset the market. Pay the Unicorn the correct rate, but don't grossly overpay an average Alice. IJS.

You didn't say don't overpay. You said wait until 11 so you don't pay barfine. So bars have to close early and miss that business, and you want them to miss out on barfines too. How do you expect bars to make money? I guess it's their problem. You do what you want to do. But bars aren't going to reset prices to take a loss. If you don't want to barfine find a freelancer. If you want the benefits of bars, be fair.

I never understand posters who think other mongers should work to drive down price. I don't overpay, but I want to be fair. If a bar offers value to me I expect to pay for it. To encourage people not to is cheap in the greedy sense if the word.

[QUOTE=Dumbass;2579127]All due respect. Read what I wrote. I did not say don't travel there, I did not say don't get a manicure. I did not say don't eat at restaurants, don't take tours, do not rent scooters, don't buy drinks, don't get a massage on the beach, don't buy souvenirs.

I said reset the market. Pay the Unicorn the correct rate, but don't grossly overpay an average Alice. IJS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dumbass;2579106]Gentlemen. All of you in Phuket are now trailblazers. All the bars close at 11 so there is no need for bar fines now. You all have a chance to reset the prices. Don't get me wrong if you find a young stunner 10+++pay her what you feel, but don't go crazy. We all know there are not that many Unicorns in Phuket. 1500 be for short time. Make it happen. You have the power. Don't give in. Stay focused. This is for the greater good as us that follow will will maintain the new market price.[/QUOTE]You are joking right? In 16 years I have never paid 1500 baht for Short Time in Thailand. I have only paid 1500 baht for Long Time twice. It is like you are getting fucked big time, but you are trying to show pride by only fucking yourself little time. For 3 of those short times I can pay my rent for an entire month.

[QUOTE=Dumbass;2579127]All due respect. Read what I wrote. I did not say don't travel there, I did not say don't get a manicure. I did not say don't eat at restaurants, don't take tours, do not rent scooters, don't buy drinks, don't get a massage on the beach, don't buy souvenirs.

I said reset the market. Pay the Unicorn the correct rate, but don't grossly overpay an average Alice. IJS.[/QUOTE]Your username is appropriate.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2579129]You are joking right? In 16 years I have never paid 1500 baht for Short Time in Thailand. I have only paid 1500 baht for Long Time twice. It is like you are getting fucked big time, but you are trying to show pride by only fucking yourself little time. For 3 of those short times I can pay my rent for an entire month.[/QUOTE]You must only fuck the fat uglies then.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2579131]Your username is appropriate.[/QUOTE]Bu was probably correct until the Thai Gov't gets a real vaccine program finished and not using Sinoshit. [URL]https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/thailand-medical-workers-covid-19-sinovac-vaccinations-15199394[/URL].

And cuts the red tape.

[URL]https://thepointsguy.com/news/thailand-sandbox-program/[/URL]

Once those wanting to come back to LOS and do not want to do a 14 day quarantine in BKK dry up the sand box will be empty.

[QUOTE=TConor;2579153]Bu was probably correct until the Thai Gov't gets a real vaccine program finished and not using Sinoshit. [URL]https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/thailand-medical-workers-covid-19-sinovac-vaccinations-15199394[/URL].

And cuts the red tape.

[URL]https://thepointsguy.com/news/thailand-sandbox-program/[/URL]

Once those wanting to come back to LOS and do not want to do a 14 day quarantine in BKK dry up the sand box will be empty.[/QUOTE]I won't be doing sandbox as long as vaccinated foreigners are locked up because they sat on the airplane near unvaccinated but sick children. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that has already happened.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2579129]You are joking right? In 16 years I have never paid 1500 baht for Short Time in Thailand. I have only paid 1500 baht for Long Time twice. It is like you are getting fucked big time, but you are trying to show pride by only fucking yourself little time. For 3 of those short times I can pay my rent for an entire month.[/QUOTE]Are you saying you have not been in 16 years because I was in Patts in 2018 and BARFINE at some places was B1300 and girls wanted B2000-2500 for short time. I did the soapy a couple of times as that was better value. I have seen post where guys are paying B3000 in Phuket. If you did not post a pic of B3000 bar girl. You overpaid 🤦127998;8205;9794;65039;129335;127997;8205;9794;65039;.

[QUOTE=Dumbass;2579167]Are you saying you have not been in 16 years because I was in Patts in 2018 and BARFINE at some places was B1300 and girls wanted B2000-2500 for short time. I did the soapy a couple of times as that was better value. I have seen post where guys are paying B3000 in Phuket. If you did not post a pic of B3000 bar girl. You overpaid 🤦127998;8205;9794;65039;129335;127997;8205;9794;65039;.[/QUOTE]I don't go the barfine route. I have been living in Pattaya for 12 years and even the 4 years I was visiting before that I didn't do barfines. Girls I have fucked for 1000 all night have told me about guys paying them 10,000 for a few hours. Means shit. There are ugly girls in the same bar with pretty girls and they cost the same at the bar. What you pay has nothing to do with how the girl looks.

One of my favorite things to do in Thailand was wander the bars and play games with bar girls, connect four, jackpot etc. Drink a few beers, joke with the girls then go to another bar and do same. If I met a girl I liked and had fun with, I'd barfine her for the night and off we'd go. You probably had prettier girls a lot of the time and almost certainly cheaper, but I enjoyed my time there a lot.

Different people enjoy life differently and value money differently.

I do enjoy your posts and have used what you've said to get better value in the past. So thanks for that.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2579174]I don't go the barfine route. I have been living in Pattaya for 12 years and even the 4 years I was visiting before that I didn't do barfines. Girls I have fucked for 1000 all night have told me about guys paying them 10,000 for a few hours. Means shit. There are ugly girls in the same bar with pretty girls and they cost the same at the bar. What you pay has nothing to do with how the girl looks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horatio;2579182]One of my favorite things to do in Thailand was wander the bars and play games with bar girls, connect four, jackpot etc. Drink a few beers, joke with the girls then go to another bar and do same. If I met a girl I liked and had fun with, I'd barfine her for the night [/QUOTE]I do that sometimes too. But instead of barfining I will just add the girl on Line and have her get with me when she finishes work or a day that she is off. I have a lot to keep me busy so I am never like oh I have to have this chick right now.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2579081]One of my Phuket favorites is a Suzy Wong girl. Long ago she went to Isaan and hasn't returned, same as many others. When I talk to her about going back to Phuket she only says "no money in Phuket". Have you recently verified that your Suzy Wong girls are still in Phuket?[/QUOTE]Dude,

There is something weird going on with these women. Yes a ton of them are still in Phuket and have found part time boyfriends to take care of them or whatever! But for some reason they are not so approachable anymore. Keep replying back with a "don't worry xxx, we will find you some nice girls. I cannot because I only work when at Suzy Wong" go figure.

Will have to change my approach on this. But it's a waste. Should be able to do more when I am in Phuket so have saved up time to meet them outside for lunch etc.

But now seriously considering investing into premium on ThaiFriendly to.

Weed out the clutter and find me some hot mamas.

To be continued.

P.S. My girl from Bangkok now can't travel since they closed down domestic flights and Bangkok to Phuket by bus is 12 hours.

So need to sort out a steady supply.

I am a little confused with all the back and forth regarding pricing.

It is very important for me to never over pay as it is not good to mess up the ecosystem.

Can someone either post or PM a real price scheme? I never been to Thailand and am planning a trip. Got a lot of good info but too much inconsistency in prices to feel comfortable going here yet.

Thanks in advance.

By the way. Colombia is doing good right now and prices are only slightly higher than pre covid if you are interested in drama free travel.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2579174]I don't go the barfine route. I have been living in Pattaya for 12 years and even the 4 years I was visiting before that I didn't do barfines. Girls I have fucked for 1000 all night have told me about guys paying them 10,000 for a few hours. Means shit. There are ugly girls in the same bar with pretty girls and they cost the same at the bar. What you pay has nothing to do with how the girl looks.[/QUOTE]I get it Mr. E that girls who find an over the top spender don't regard him as anything other than an opportunity to put some cash in the bank and perhaps develop into a high end sponsor. I get it that in a gogo the bar fine is the same no matter which girl you choose. I get it that there is no empirical evidence paying more gets you better service however being here over 20 years it has been my experience there is a definite correlation between price and looks. A simple illustration is the tiered pricing you find at higher end oilies or the rates better looking girls charge on escort sites. That said you seem to find your tricks online, something I have never cracked, perhaps it's different there.

Day 11.

Didn't really feel up to much after the night's activities with PTC. And it was raining again.

So, another day of lazing. Some more messages from GTG, I was bored and lonely. And she's good banter. And 'free. ' So I invited her over to swim at the pool by my room, rain notwithstanding. She looks phenomenal in a bikini. Sun comes out just as she arrives, so we spend the afternoon lazing by the pool, drinking beer and swimming. I'm laughing hysterically at her revelation she can't 'swim down. ' By that, she means dive to the bottom of the pool. Every time she tries, she's just kicking along on the surface with her great arse sticking out of the water.

Shower, take her to a little thai restaurant around the corner. And she can eat, as well as drink. Hit 7/11 afterwards and I'm not ready for beer after so much food, so she spends 20 minutes agonizing over the 4 different available bottles of crap red wine. Pick up some beer, cigarettes and condoms too (her call.).

Back at the room, another epic drinking session commences. I hit my limit before her and crawl into bed at about 3 am while she finishes off a last beer. 30 minutes later, she's nudging me awake and crawling into bed with me, naked. Good deep French kissing, she's got over her reluctance to do a BBJ and I think she's going to break my neck with her legs when I go down on her. She's amazingly strong.

We're rolling around on the bed, grinding on eachother. And I slip in, for a second. And she hilts herself. She gets a really worried look on her face and scrambles off to get a condom. Over the next two hours, we burn through the three-pack. And she seems like she's always on the edge of going bareback. She fucks like a wild animal and we're throwing eachother around the bed (I'm not huge and she's strong.).

Finally, at about 5 am, we're done and try to sleep. My lower back and glutes are in spasm from the workout and it's really painful. She notices me squirming and gives me another deep tissue massage. That sorts out the problem, so we finally fall asleep.

I wake her up at about 10 am. I'm starving, so we shower and head up to breakfast (I'm firmly over my reticence to be seen in public with a girl. And she looks like a normal 'good girl', not an obvious working girl.).

Again, she can eat! She puts away a Thai breakfast and what passes for an English breakfast while I have some scrambled eggs and toast.

After, the sun is out, so I drive us to a nearby waterfall and she plays tour guide / photographer while we swim in the various pools. Icecream afterwards and I drop her back at her shitty 'Guest House. ' Before we left the hotel, I put 1000 baht in her purse for a 'present. '.

I could get used to the 'holiday girlfriend' thing. Heading back out later, solo, to see if I can score any of the freelancing chicks on Beach Road, now the weather is better.

In other news, I've firmed up my travel plans. Flight to BKK (there's none direct to Pattaya from Phuket soon enough), taxi to Pattaya and I've booked a condo for a few days. I can't get my head around the travel restrictions / different zones, what you're allowed to do. So I'm just going to do what I do best, play the loveably clueless and ineffably polite Englishman.

[QUOTE=TConor;2579153]Once those wanting to come back to LOS and do not want to do a 14 day quarantine in BKK dry up the sand box will be empty.[/QUOTE]

We'll see. For the moment, tourist spots like Patong and Rawai are slowly filling up with tourists, drip by drop, but surely.

It's not just mongers. In the 2 hotels where I went there are also families with children and western couples.

I have a panoramic view of Nai Harn beach and it gets crowded.. Nothing to do with what I'm seeing on youtube of Pattaya beach right now. From here I can't say if they are Thais or Farangs, but a while ago when I went down there were a lot of westerners.

The shops in Rawai are almost all open. Honestly, despite the rainy season, it's not the desert.

On the other hand, all of Thailand and all tourists know that (at the moment) almost everyone is vaccinated and that Phuket is one of the safest places. Lots of girls I know from Pattaya would love to come to Phuket (difficult since the new rules for domestic travel to Phuket last night). Many farnant are thinking of changing their plan and are now thinking of staying in Phuket.

Nobody knows. But maybe Phuket will pull it off, there are some indicators in the green. To be THE international tourist spot in Thailand for the high season.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2579174]I don't go the barfine route. I have been living in Pattaya for 12 years and even the 4 years I was visiting before that I didn't do barfines. Girls I have fucked for 1000 all night have told me about guys paying them 10,000 for a few hours. Means shit. There are ugly girls in the same bar with pretty girls and they cost the same at the bar. What you pay has nothing to do with how the girl looks.[/QUOTE]That should of course have read "high end soapies". Prices at oilies are almost always uniform.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2579299]Day 11.

Didn't really feel up to much after the night's activities with PTC. And it was raining again.

So, another day of lazing. Some more messages from GTG, I was bored and lonely. And she's good banter. And 'free. ' So I invited her over to swim at the pool by my room, rain notwithstanding. She looks phenomenal in a bikini. Sun comes out just as she arrives, so we spend the afternoon lazing by the pool, drinking beer and swimming. I'm laughing hysterically at her revelation she can't 'swim down. ' By that, she means dive to the bottom of the pool. Every time she tries, she's just kicking along on the surface with her great arse sticking out of the water.

Shower, take her to a little thai restaurant around the corner. And she can eat, as well as drink. Hit 7/11 afterwards and I'm not ready for beer after so much food, so she spends 20 minutes agonizing over the 4 different available bottles of crap red wine. Pick up some beer, cigarettes and condoms too (her call.).

Back at the room, another epic drinking session commences. I hit my limit before her and crawl into bed at about 3 am while she finishes off a last beer. 30 minutes later, she's nudging me awake and crawling into bed with me, naked. Good deep French kissing, she's got over her reluctance to do a BBJ and I think she's going to break my neck with her legs when I go down on her. She's amazingly strong.

We're rolling around on the bed, grinding on eachother. And I slip in, for a second. And she hilts herself. She gets a really worried look on her face and scrambles off to get a condom. Over the next two hours, we burn through the three-pack. And she seems like she's always on the edge of going bareback. She fucks like a wild animal and we're throwing eachother around the bed (I'm not huge and she's strong.).

Finally, at about 5 am, we're done and try to sleep. My lower back and glutes are in spasm from the workout and it's really painful. She notices me squirming and gives me another deep tissue massage. That sorts out the problem, so we finally fall asleep.

I wake her up at about 10 am. I'm starving, so we shower and head up to breakfast (I'm firmly over my reticence to be seen in public with a girl. And she looks like a normal 'good girl', not an obvious working girl.).

Again, she can eat! She puts away a Thai breakfast and what passes for an English breakfast while I have some scrambled eggs and toast.

After, the sun is out, so I drive us to a nearby waterfall and she plays tour guide / photographer while we swim in the various pools. Icecream afterwards and I drop her back at her shitty 'Guest House. ' Before we left the hotel, I put 1000 baht in her purse for a 'present. '.

I could get used to the 'holiday girlfriend' thing. Heading back out later, solo, to see if I can score any of the freelancing chicks on Beach Road, now the weather is better.

In other news, I've firmed up my travel plans. Flight to BKK (there's none direct to Pattaya from Phuket soon enough), taxi to Pattaya and I've booked a condo for a few days. I can't get my head around the travel restrictions / different zones, what you're allowed to do. So I'm just going to do what I do best, play the loveably clueless and ineffably polite Englishman.[/QUOTE]When you get tired of driving boats you realy should take up writing books. Your reports are very readable, top stuff!

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2579166]I won't be doing sandbox as long as vaccinated foreigners are locked up because they sat on the airplane near unvaccinated but sick children. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that has already happened.[/QUOTE]
lol it's people like you who will go to Phuket and will not want to go anywhere else.

These are the best clients of Phuket sandbox.

Appeal for wisdom.

Two gorgeous Thai girls alone in a bar full of farangs.

Working obviously? And how on earth does one go about talking to them?

Asking for a friend.

[QUOTE=Dumbass;2579127]All due respect. Read what I wrote. I did not say don't travel there, I did not say don't get a manicure. I did not say don't eat at restaurants, don't take tours, do not rent scooters, don't buy drinks, don't get a massage on the beach, don't buy souvenirs.

I said reset the market. Pay the Unicorn the correct rate, but don't grossly overpay an average Alice. IJS.[/QUOTE]Good to know mongerers can become or act like one of those global corporates able to "reset prices" in their advantage.

I can imagine that if ST eventually went from 1 k (30 USD) to 1,5 k (45 USD), ((did it? By the way)) with the huge mass of sandbox travellers flooding Phuket, it's time "to reset the market" at its correct rate with the purchase power these masses have.

On the other hand I can well imagine that after having spent a couple of thousands dollars in a 2-4 week holiday trip, the saving of 10/15 bucks a day by not "overpaying" will represent an awesome sum. I bet it will be used back home to buy shares at the stock market and carry on in being a smart investor: 500.00 $ will attract many financial consultants and I can only suggest to select them carefully.

I bet all my Apple share the gogo girls Mr E gets off the clock at Bargain Basement prices are the ones not meeting their Barfine Quota to qualify for Dalary.

Nothing else makes sense.

For reference. Stars get more than one customer a shift. Mr E types lucky to get 2 a month.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2579354]Appeal for wisdom.

Two gorgeous Thai girls alone in a bar full of farangs.

Working obviously? And how on earth does one go about talking to them?

Asking for a friend.[/QUOTE]It is unusual to find two gorgeous working girls alone in a Thai bar full of farang. More typically these bar girls are closer to average appearance. There will be a few that look really good, but not many.

Long ago I was with a non-P4P Thai girl listening to live music in an area known for freelancers. The bar had a few couples, a few farang men, and several small groups of unaccompanied Thai women. My date said that every unaccompanied woman in that bar was a freelancer. She "guaranteed" it.

In the situation that you mentioned, I question how gorgeous they were. If the venue was known for freelancers I don't question that they were looking for clients.

Regarding approaching working girls in bars, I typically just say "Hello, my name is Horse, nice to meet you". I'm double your age so I'm sure your success rate will be higher than mine, but generally the girls have been polite. When they have zero interest in me, they typically turn their heads before I get close enough to say hello. There may or may not be a language barrier. I don’t try to use the few Thai words that I know.

Hope your friend has a blast.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2579380]I bet all my Apple share the gogo girls Mr E gets off the clock at Bargain Basement prices are the ones not meeting their Barfine Quota to qualify for Dalary.

Nothing else makes sense.

For reference. Stars get more than one customer a shift. Mr E types lucky to get 2 a month.[/QUOTE]Speaking mostly for my experiences and observations in Bangkok since I have barely mongered at all in Phuket and, frankly, I would be hard pressed to recall any of the few dozen Pattaya girls I have had over the years whose looks and demeanor would inspire me to repeat them for free much less for 1,000 baht, I think it was possible during Normal Times to catch a (star) go-go girl who routinely commanded a 2,500 - 3,000 baht fee for Short Time at least 6 or 7 times per week in a condition where she would flop spread eagle nearly comatose drunk at 4am on the nearest bed and after she woke up at 2pm later that day accept 1,000 baht note from whoever with a shrug and be on her way. Possible but rare.

But seeing how those star girls share their Line info with their 2,500 - 3,000 baht fee customers every bit as readily and often as the "get barfined 2 times a month" girls do with their "come see me after work or your day off for 1,000 baht" customers, I'm guessing 99% of the time the Line messages the stars send or reply to are with the guys who see paying her only 2,000 baht for that Long Time or even a Short Time on her day off with no barfine or ladydrinks is also a pretty good deal. It's probably not going to be the guy who thinks 1,000 baht for a bareback (claimed as "standard" in Thailand) Long Time with a star go-go girl is plenty since getting that deal is commonplace for him and no reason it wouldn't or shouldn't be for everybody.

Again, only talking about Normal Times up until about 18 months ago.

I'm not saying it didn't happen or couldn't happen. But anyone who was heading to Bangkok during Normal Times on the assumption that if anybody and everybody could have and should have been doing exactly that with popular (routine daily 2,500 - 3,000 ST fee) go-go girls for the past 16 years then it ought to be a snap to swing it for 2 weeks was likely jolted out of that assumption and into reality rather quickly.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2579466]It is unusual to find two gorgeous working girls alone in a Thai bar full of farang. More typically these bar girls are closer to average appearance. There will be a few that look really good, but not many.

Long ago I was with a non-P4P Thai girl listening to live music in an area known for freelancers. The bar had a few couples, a few farang men, and several small groups of unaccompanied Thai women. My date said that every unaccompanied woman in that bar was a freelancer. She "guaranteed" it.

In the situation that you mentioned, I question how gorgeous they were. If the venue was known for freelancers I don't question that they were looking for clients.

Regarding approaching working girls in bars, I typically just say "Hello, my name is Horse, nice to meet you". I'm double your age so I'm sure your success rate will be higher than mine, but generally the girls have been polite. When they have zero interest in me, they typically turn their heads before I get close enough to say hello. There may or may not be a language barrier. I dont try to use the few Thai words that I know.

Hope your friend has a blast.[/QUOTE]I think they were gorgeous. Ultimately, that's the only thing that matters, right? 5 foot spinners no older than early twenties, casually but sexily dressed, very pretty, with long straight hair, deeply tanned skin, toned little stomachs, pert little asses and boobs.

If you can provide a link to the standardized scale for ranking the relative hotness of girls, I'll try to be more accurate in future reportage.

Anyway.

Day 12.

Slept for a few hours after dropping GTG back at her room, then got a grab down to the beach about 6 pm. There's two places to drink. Tropical at one end of the beach, Lamai Resort / Restaurant at the other. Tropical has more of a 'bar feel' and is cheaper. 80 thb for a San Mig, versus 150 thb at Lamai!

Tropical was mainly just a dozen farangs propping up the bar and slamming back beers. One group of Thai girls posted up there all night, though. OK looking, not stunning.

Lamai was 'heaving. ' Maybe, 200 people eating and drinking. Lots of foreign couples. Half a dozen groups of Thai girls in 2's and 3's, unaccompanied, some of them absolutely gorgeous.

I spent the night between the two bars, eating street food and a stroll around the massage places. Not really my thing I've discovered. A few times I pass groups of girls on the street and 'give them eye' and a smile, which I get back. But, nothing more. Same same at Lamai. My fault. I'm 'shy' and just couldn't get over my reluctance to just approach.

Only 'obvious' freelancers are a gaggle of ladyboys on mopeds, driving round and round and stopping by any lone man that looks in their direction. I'm fooled by one, he stops. Then the voice gives it away and I back off.

While I've been making my rounds, I've been chatting to a few girls on ThaiFriendly, Facebook and Instagram. 'Insta-ho' types with big asses and tits, gym selfies and professional photoshoots on their profiles. They're firm at 4000 thb short time. I'm in Thailand mainly for the spinners. I'll go to Brazil and Colombia to fuck that kind of girl.

Everything shuts down at about 11 pm, beer and street food diet has taken its toll on my digestive system, so I just get a bike taxi back to the hotel and sleep. Alone.

Today, I've been prospecting on TF in Pattaya in preparation for my recent move. There's lots more girls in the 18-24 range than in Phuket. In an effort to remain organised, I tried to 'arrange' my Line contact list before adding any Pattaya girls. Like an idiot, I thought 'create' group was just an organisational feature. And so, what I've gone and done is add all the girls I've fucked and been talking to one huge group chat. They can all see who added them (me). And who else is in the group. Dealing with the fallout from that one. Yikes. I think it's good I'm leaving in a couple of days.

Plan tonight is same same as last night, but this time I'm putting my big boy pants on and just talking to some girls. If I strike out on that, I think it'll just be a repeat with Cutie With A Booty.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2579611]

Today, I've been prospecting on TF in Pattaya in preparation for my recent move. There's lots more girls in the 18-24 range than in Phuket. In an effort to remain organised, I tried to 'arrange' my Line contact list before adding any Pattaya girls. Like an idiot, I thought 'create' group was just an organisational feature. And so, what I've gone and done is add all the girls I've fucked and been talking to one huge group chat. They can all see who added them (me). And who else is in the group. Dealing with the fallout from that one. Yikes. I think it's good I'm leaving in a couple of days.

Plan tonight is same same as last night, but this time I'm putting my big boy pants on and just talking to some girls. If I strike out on that, I think it'll just be a repeat with Cutie With A Booty.[/QUOTE]Line tip, Since you created the group and invited everyone you can edit and delete any or all other members.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2579611]I've been chatting to a few girls on ThaiFriendly, Facebook and Instagram. 'Insta-ho' types with big asses and tits, gym selfies and professional photoshoots on their profiles. They're firm at 4000 thb short time.[/QUOTE]I love the 'Insta-ho' reference. I think you have done very well to get some of them to actually reply as these girls get 100's of daily messages across all their platforms. Maybe because you are actually in Phuket you get a better response. Maybe because Phuket is an island cut off from the rest of Thailand the remaining girls have a more limited range of customers.

Since the pandemic started I have been trolling the 'Insta-ho' sub genre in Bangkok. These super hotties definitely still earn good cash hence ask and still get an above average price.

I have written a pretty good script that gets a 20% response rate. I see them quote 3 k to 6 k short term with most being in the 4 k to 5 k range. Even seen a few ask 10 k for a few hours.

If you can get an intro from a friend, get them both to come over or build some kind of relationship their prices come back to standard hottie price in BKK of 3 k st /5 to 6 k LT.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2579611]I think they were gorgeous. Ultimately, that's the only thing that matters, right? 5 foot spinners no older than early twenties, casually but sexily dressed, very pretty, with long straight hair, deeply tanned skin, toned little stomachs, pert little asses and boobs.

If you can provide a link to the standardized scale for ranking the relative hotness of girls, I'll try to be more accurate in future reportage.



In an effort to remain organised, I tried to 'arrange' my Line contact list before adding any Pattaya girls. Like an idiot, I thought 'create' group was just an organisational feature.[/QUOTE]That's great to find 2 gorgeous girls together, you won't always be that lucky. Pre-COVID there were plenty of hotties in some of the go-go places on Bangla Road and Soi Sea Dragon. The "deeply tanned skin" is something that I like, but many Thai people think is ugly. White skin is often considered more beautiful. If you take a Thai girl to the beach you might find she is the kind to hide under a huge hat, sunglasses, and lots of fabric to avoid getting dark skin.

You are right about a standardized scale, there never will be agreement.

For organizing Line contacts, start by editing their Line username, you have about 15 or 20 characters to remind yourself who they are. I cryptically write their English name, age, and memorable location.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2579721]That's great to find 2 gorgeous girls together, you won't always be that lucky. Pre-COVID there were plenty of hotties in some of the go-go places on Bangla Road and Soi Sea Dragon. The "deeply tanned skin" is something that I like, but many Thai people think is ugly. White skin is often considered more beautiful. If you take a Thai girl to the beach you might find she is the kind to hide under a huge hat, sunglasses, and lots of fabric to avoid getting dark skin.

You are right about a standardized scale, there never will be agreement.

For organizing Line contacts, start by editing their Line username, you have about 15 or 20 characters to remind yourself who they are. I cryptically write their English name, age, and memorable location.[/QUOTE]About a standardized scale there is one and high agreement among munger's about girl quality.

Take any establishment be it, agogo, massage parlor, or beer bars.

There will be stars and wallflowers. The difference being looks.

To be clear the Stars will inherit the Earth.

The market is the judge of beauty. See who takes home the Baht.

I swear on the Bible. If you look at the haves and have nots in the Bargirls sphere. You will see a vast difference in Face.

[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2579671]I love the 'Insta-ho' reference. I think you have done very well to get some of them to actually reply as these girls get 100's of daily messages across all their platforms. Maybe because you are actually in Phuket you get a better response. Maybe because Phuket is an island cut off from the rest of Thailand the remaining girls have a more limited range of customers.

Since the pandemic started I have been trolling the 'Insta-ho' sub genre in Bangkok. These super hotties definitely still earn good cash hence ask and still get an above average price.

I have written a pretty good script that gets a 20% response rate. I see them quote 3 k to 6 k short term with most being in the 4 k to 5 k range. Even seen a few ask 10 k for a few hours.

If you can get an intro from a friend, get them both to come over or build some kind of relationship their prices come back to standard hottie price in BKK of 3 k st /5 to 6 k LT.[/QUOTE]I think I only started to get responses when I uploaded some selfies and pictures GTG took of me at recognizable Phuket landmarks. Like you say, because I'm actually here. I'm leery of girls like that, sceptical of the level of service. I'd rather fuck an enthusiastic and cute 30 year old than some vain and vapid 22 year old with a list of dos / and don'ts. Too much like seeing escorts back in the UK.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2579721]That's great to find 2 gorgeous girls together, you won't always be that lucky. Pre-COVID there were plenty of hotties in some of the go-go places on Bangla Road and Soi Sea Dragon. The "deeply tanned skin" is something that I like, but many Thai people think is ugly. White skin is often considered more beautiful. If you take a Thai girl to the beach you might find she is the kind to hide under a huge hat, sunglasses, and lots of fabric to avoid getting dark skin.

You are right about a standardized scale, there never will be agreement.

For organizing Line contacts, start by editing their Line username, you have about 15 or 20 characters to remind yourself who they are. I cryptically write their English name, age, and memorable location.[/QUOTE]You know, with my sober and rational head on and another night spent observing these girls, I'm not so sure they're freelancing. Sitting with your friends all night drinking 300 thb cocktails doesn't seem to make good business sense. Or if it does, they're after more than I want to be paying.

I think I just want them to be freelancing. I've come to the conclusion that most of the girls I'm seeing in Baanlamai are rich / upper middle-class Thai girls on holiday.

Attached a picture taken from the balcony at Baanlamai, after 10 pm when it had quietened down a little.

So, Day 13.

Went for my third and final Covid test. Only, it isn't today. It's tomorrow. Ooops. Swung by Nai Harn beach again for a couple of hours. It's absolutely beautiful there. Then returned my rental car. Grab back to my hotel and just lazed around the pool, while chatting to some girls on TF. Can't get the idea of anal out of my head after failures with CWB and PTC, so I'm craving it and actively seeking it.

The only 'yes, have done it before' I get is from one girl who says she is busy and can't come until the evening. She wants 2000 short time. I go quiet. I want it NOW. About 3 pm, I'm in the shower in preparation for heading into town to hit up a massage place for a blowjob when she calls my line. In a fortunate quirk of fate, she was supposed to be meeting some Yank at my hotel and he flaked on her. She's down at the gate. And she'll do 1000 thb short time since she's already here.

I head down and pick her up. Pretty enough girl, 28,5 nothin' and maybe 100 lbs. Jump in the shuttle (discretion has gone right of the window being so close to leaving! Get into my room.

She speaks English the best out of any girl I've seen in Phuket. Turns out, she had a Kiwi boyfriend for 7 years who obviously taught her a thing or too (cheers mate.) We share a beer and chat some, then get to it. Some good deep french kissing and our clothes come off. Tiny bit of baby damage on her stomach, but nothing major. I'm feeling lazy and as all this is costing me is 1000 thb, I don't feel the need to make the most of it. No oral for you, sweetie.

She blows me and I'm rubbing her pussy while she does. Maybe 5 minutes of BBJ then she asks if I have a condom. Sigh. Her pussy is only slightly wet at this stage. I say 'Not yet. ' I've got her on her knees, chest down, rubbing away at her pussy. She gets really wet. So much so, that like PTC, I can use it like lube. For maybe 20 minutes, I'm alternating between fingering her ass and rubbing her pussy. Eventually, I've got my thumb in her arse while rubbing her pussy. She reaches down and shows me exactly where to put my fingers, 'Like this. ' She's bouncing her hips on my hand, fucking her ass on my thumb while my other fingers rub at her. I'm pretty sure she came.

After, I grab the lube and thoroughly lube her up. I lube myself up and she says 'Condom or cannot. ' Ok, ok. Wipe some lube off, grab a condom and get her to put it on. Still chest down ass up, I slide into her. Warm and tight, I can feel her clamping down on me. I go slow, her rubbing at her pussy all the while. Speed up and eventually I'm slamming into her. And she takes it like a champ.

After I cum, she goes for a shower. Then I do. When I come back, she's dressed. I say, "We said 1-2 hours. You only been here 40 minutes. " She replies, "Short time, fuck once. " Ok, fuck it, I don't really have another in me right now and it's only 1000 thb.

Her friend is late to pick her up, so we're just chatting. About her Kiwi boyfriend, about how much money she makes camwhoring (enough to live on she says), etc. I ask her if she thinks if there are any girls out in Patong, freelancing the few open bars. She says none of the girls she knows are. They're all on TF.

After she leaves, I head out to beach road and have a few drinks.

Tomorrow is my actual Covid test. While I was having drinks, I was chatting on line with my three repeat offenders. Good Time Girl, Punky Tattooed Chick and Cutie with a Booty. Almost invite all of them over at one stage, but decide against. Wouldn't be worth it and my stomach is still feeling dodgy.

I want to do a long time tomorrow and finally make a snap decision that as CWB was my first girl in Phuket, she can also be my last. She's tiny, tight and fucks like a champion. She has such a cute and sexy way about her, too. I find it absolutely adorable the way she wriggles about when we're trying to get to sleep, always squirming closer and wanting to hold my hand, wrap her legs around me etc.

Earlier than usual. Going to get her over for a swim, take her to dinner around the corner. Then fuck her brains out.

Attached picture of Baanlami after it had quietened down a little (all things are relative) and a picture of Anal Expert.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2579721]The "deeply tanned skin" is something that I like, but many Thai people think is ugly. White skin is often considered more beautiful. If you take a Thai girl to the beach you might find she is the kind to hide under a huge hat, sunglasses, and lots of fabric to avoid getting dark skin.

.[/QUOTE]I too like the "deeply tanned skin" and find the "bleached" skin look so many Asian women have these days not appealing. If you are looking at pictures you have to be aware that most Asian phones are set up with filters to make the persons skin color look lighter than it is. The filters do other things too.

[QUOTE=KabukichoDojo;2578880]That is awful and really unlucky for this lady. She said there are 14 people in the ALQ hotel and the covid guy was traveling with a family of 12 or 13. Hotel budget blown. Instead of 6 weeks at the sandbox hotel she uses that money for 2 weeks ALQ.[/QUOTE]There is an interview wit this lady on Thaiger. She has been told that her original hotel bill will be refunded to her credit.

She comes across as a really nice woman. I think her treatment by the Thais was excessive, but there isn't even a hint of histrionics or playing the victim.

[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2579821]I too like the "deeply tanned skin" and find the "bleached" skin look so many Asian women have these days not appealing. If you are looking at pictures you have to be aware that most Asian phones are set up with filters to make the persons skin color look lighter than it is. The filters do other things too.[/QUOTE]The preference of Thais for lighter skinned spouses is because darker skin is associated with manual labour and thus suggests low social status and poor future prospects.

Sat writing this in departures at Phuket, on the way to BKK. So it looks like I'll make it as far as BKK. Much scrutiny of my vape, but eventually allowed to slide. Thorough check of my hold bag. There is something to be said to wearing a face mask. It conceals the sheer mortification on your face of watching a pretty Thai security lady pull out of your bag lube, condoms, kamagra, cialis, a sex toy.

Day 14.

Another lazy day. I've had my fill of beaches and waterfalls, so I just laze around the hotel all afternoon.

Had a date set with Cutie With A Booty for 6 pm. I just really can't be bothered with risking bad service with how difficult it is getting a girl up to my room here, so a repeat is safer. By 3 pm, I'm horny as fuck so I tell her to come over now. She arrives at 4 pm, dressed in a little kimono style dress that barely covers her arse.

I've written lots about CWB, so I'll just do the highlights for me;.

-Making her cum so hard with oral, she's in a half coma when I fuck her the first time.

- Giving her a back massage which she keeps saying, "Harder, harder!" to. I say I can't, don't want to hurt her. She says, "Why you fuck me so hard then?" Well, that's different sweetie.

-Finding out she can't really swim.

-Hiding her panties and having her convinced we'll have to go out for food with her wearing that little kimono, commando.

-Letting her order a stupid amount of food and eat twice as much as me. She's 39 kg. I'm about 74 kg. Laughing my head off when I ask her what's in the papaya salad, "Chicken fish. " "Chicken fish? Show me on google. " Chicken feet she meant. New one on me. Rubbery and pretty tasteless.

-Both of us passing out in a food coma for a couple of hours after dinner.

-Her sleeping in one of my t-shirts. It's a UK small. And it's like a tent on her. Love it when a girl wears my clothes.

-Despite being responsive, talking to me. She claims she has no memory of the second time we fucked, when I prodded her awake about 12 pm. Sleep sex.

-After the second fuck, we're lying together all tangled up and she's like a little brown radiator. I'm far too hot and can't really sleep, so I move to the second bed to read my Kindle. About an hour later, she sits bolt upright (I'm reading in the dark) and shouts "BABY!" I shine the Kindle on me, she reaches over for my hand. Then passes out again.

-Waking up to find she's wriggled over to the second bed in the night to cuddle up with me. That's cute.

-The little smile on her face when she reaches down in the morning, feels my morning wood, then mounts up to ride me cowgirl.

-Having to practically kick her out, so I can make it for my flight.

Gave her 2000 thb for the night, spent maybe about 700 thb on food. She leaves in the morning with a little doggy bag she insisted on taking away from the restaraunt.

All in all, I've enjoyed Phuket and really lucked out with PTC and CWB. Girls seem to be a little scarce on the ground and the prices are still pretty high. (Partly my fault.).

I've got lots of 18/19 and early twenties spinners lined up for when I get to Pattaya (from TF profiles, anyway), some I've videochatted (One who says she's 18 years and 6 months old) who was cute and smiley as fuck.

So, farewell Phuket, roll on Pattaya.

I've got a few pictures to add of CWB, but I'll attach them later when I'm not getting overlooked in a departure lounge.

Mate, I am reliving my memories of Phuket through your eyes. I can't wait back to get back to Phuket and smash some sexy spinners myself.

Enjoy your adventure to Pattaya! Hope to read some exciting stories mate.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2580226]Sat writing this in departures at Phuket, on the way to BKK. So it looks like I'll make it as far as BKK. Much scrutiny of my vape, but eventually allowed to slide. Thorough check of my hold bag. There is something to be said to wearing a face mask. It conceals the sheer mortification on your face of watching a pretty Thai security lady pull out of your bag lube, condoms, kamagra, cialis, a sex toy.

Day 14.

Another lazy day. I've had my fill of beaches and waterfalls, so I just laze around the hotel all afternoon.

Had a date set with Cutie With A Booty for 6 pm. I just really can't be bothered with risking bad service with how difficult it is getting a girl up to my room here, so a repeat is safer. By 3 pm, I'm horny as fuck so I tell her to come over now. She arrives at 4 pm, dressed in a little kimono style dress that barely covers her arse.

I've written lots about CWB, so I'll just do the highlights for me;.

-Making her cum so hard with oral, she's in a half coma when I fuck her the first time.

- Giving her a back massage which she keeps saying, "Harder, harder!" to. I say I can't, don't want to hurt her. She says, "Why you fuck me so hard then?" Well, that's different sweetie.

-Finding out she can't really swim.

-Hiding her panties and having her convinced we'll have to go out for food with her wearing that little kimono, commando.

-Letting her order a stupid amount of food and eat twice as much as me. She's 39 kg. I'm about 74 kg. Laughing my head off when I ask her what's in the papaya salad, "Chicken fish. " "Chicken fish? Show me on google. " Chicken feet she meant. New one on me. Rubbery and pretty tasteless.

-Both of us passing out in a food coma for a couple of hours after dinner.

-Her sleeping in one of my t-shirts. It's a UK small. And it's like a tent on her. Love it when a girl wears my clothes.

-Despite being responsive, talking to me. She claims she has no memory of the second time we fucked, when I prodded her awake about 12 pm. Sleep sex.

-After the second fuck, we're lying together all tangled up and she's like a little brown radiator. I'm far too hot and can't really sleep, so I move to the second bed to read my Kindle. About an hour later, she sits bolt upright (I'm reading in the dark) and shouts "BABY!" I shine the Kindle on me, she reaches over for my hand. Then passes out again.

-Waking up to find she's wriggled over to the second bed in the night to cuddle up with me. That's cute.

-The little smile on her face when she reaches down in the morning, feels my morning wood, then mounts up to ride me cowgirl.

-Having to practically kick her out, so I can make it for my flight.

Gave her 2000 thb for the night, spent maybe about 700 thb on food. She leaves in the morning with a little doggy bag she insisted on taking away from the restaraunt.

All in all, I've enjoyed Phuket and really lucked out with PTC and CWB. Girls seem to be a little scarce on the ground and the prices are still pretty high. (Partly my fault.).

I've got lots of 18/19 and early twenties spinners lined up for when I get to Pattaya (from TF profiles, anyway), some I've videochatted (One who says she's 18 years and 6 months old) who was cute and smiley as fuck.

So, farewell Phuket, roll on Pattaya.

I've got a few pictures to add of CWB, but I'll attach them later when I'm not getting overlooked in a departure lounge.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JJanni;2580226]Sat writing this in departures at Phuket, on the way to BKK. So it looks like I'll make it as far as BKK. Much scrutiny of my vape, but eventually allowed to slide. Thorough check of my hold bag. There is something to be said to wearing a face mask. It conceals the sheer mortification on your face of watching a pretty Thai security lady pull out of your bag lube, condoms, kamagra, cialis, a sex toy.

Day 14.

Another lazy day. I've had my fill of beaches and waterfalls, so I just laze around the hotel all afternoon.

Had a date set with Cutie With A Booty for 6 pm. I just really can't be bothered with risking bad service with how difficult it is getting a girl up to my room here, so a repeat is safer. By 3 pm, I'm horny as fuck so I tell her to come over now. She arrives at 4 pm, dressed in a little kimono style dress that barely covers her arse.

I've written lots about CWB, so I'll just do the highlights for me;.

-Making her cum so hard with oral, she's in a half coma when I fuck her the first time.

- Giving her a back massage which she keeps saying, "Harder, harder!" to. I say I can't, don't want to hurt her. She says, "Why you fuck me so hard then?" Well, that's different sweetie.

-Finding out she can't really swim.

-Hiding her panties and having her convinced we'll have to go out for food with her wearing that little kimono, commando.

-Letting her order a stupid amount of food and eat twice as much as me. She's 39 kg. I'm about 74 kg. Laughing my head off when I ask her what's in the papaya salad, "Chicken fish. " "Chicken fish? Show me on google. " Chicken feet she meant. New one on me. Rubbery and pretty tasteless.

-Both of us passing out in a food coma for a couple of hours after dinner.

-Her sleeping in one of my t-shirts. It's a UK small. And it's like a tent on her. Love it when a girl wears my clothes.

-Despite being responsive, talking to me. She claims she has no memory of the second time we fucked, when I prodded her awake about 12 pm. Sleep sex.

-After the second fuck, we're lying together all tangled up and she's like a little brown radiator. I'm far too hot and can't really sleep, so I move to the second bed to read my Kindle. About an hour later, she sits bolt upright (I'm reading in the dark) and shouts "BABY!" I shine the Kindle on me, she reaches over for my hand. Then passes out again.

-Waking up to find she's wriggled over to the second bed in the night to cuddle up with me. That's cute.

-The little smile on her face when she reaches down in the morning, feels my morning wood, then mounts up to ride me cowgirl.

-Having to practically kick her out, so I can make it for my flight.

Gave her 2000 thb for the night, spent maybe about 700 thb on food. She leaves in the morning with a little doggy bag she insisted on taking away from the restaraunt.

All in all, I've enjoyed Phuket and really lucked out with PTC and CWB. Girls seem to be a little scarce on the ground and the prices are still pretty high. (Partly my fault.).

I've got lots of 18/19 and early twenties spinners lined up for when I get to Pattaya (from TF profiles, anyway), some I've videochatted (One who says she's 18 years and 6 months old) who was cute and smiley as fuck.

So, farewell Phuket, roll on Pattaya.

I've got a few pictures to add of CWB, but I'll attach them later when I'm not getting overlooked in a departure lounge.[/QUOTE]In the bolt on the way down to Pattaya. Find attached; CWB's pussy, CWB getting fingered, the aftermath of getting CWB off, what CWB turned up wearing sans panties.

Enjoy your post and wonder to go Phuket for holiday.

What is scares me, apart obviously risk Covid related, it's the weather. It seems that it's really pouring water, and rains copiously. I would like to ask if Jungceylon is open and Central as well.

Other years in the in rainy day, afternoon in shopping mall, was a cool distraction, some food, windows shopping, a movie and wondering around looking the local fauna.

Thanks in advance for your kind reply.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2580265]In the bolt on the way down to Pattaya. Find attached; CWB's pussy, CWB getting fingered, the aftermath of getting CWB off, what CWB turned up wearing sans panties.[/QUOTE]

Enjoy your post and wonder to go Phuket for holiday.

What is scares me, apart obviously risk Covid related, it's the weather. It seems that it's really pouring water, and rains copiously. I would like to ask if Jungceylon is open and Central as well.

Other years in the in rainy day, afternoon in shopping mall, was a cool distraction, some food, windows shopping, a movie and wondering around looking the local fauna.

Thanks in advance for your kind reply.

[QUOTE=Pimpampoumpipo;2579304]We'll see. For the moment, tourist spots like Patong and Rawai are slowly filling up with tourists, drip by drop, but surely.

It's not just mongers. In the 2 hotels where I went there are also families with children and western couples.

I have a panoramic view of Nai Harn beach and it gets crowded.. Nothing to do with what I'm seeing on youtube of Pattaya beach right now. From here I can't say if they are Thais or Farangs, but a while ago when I went down there were a lot of westerners.

The shops in Rawai are almost all open. Honestly, despite the rainy season, it's not the desert.

On the other hand, all of Thailand and all tourists know that (at the moment) almost everyone is vaccinated and that Phuket is one of the safest places. Lots of girls I know from Pattaya would love to come to Phuket (difficult since the new rules for domestic travel to Phuket last night). Many farnant are thinking of changing their plan and are now thinking of staying in Phuket.

Nobody knows. But maybe Phuket will pull it off, there are some indicators in the green. To be THE international tourist spot in Thailand for the high season.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JJanni;2580226]Sat writing this in departures at Phuket, on the way to BKK. So it looks like I'll make it as far as BKK. Much scrutiny of my vape, but eventually allowed to slide. Thorough check of my hold bag. There is something to be said to wearing a face mask. It conceals the sheer mortification on your face of watching a pretty Thai security lady pull out of your bag lube, condoms, kamagra, cialis, a sex toy.

Gave her 2000 thb for the night, spent maybe about 700 thb on food. She leaves in the morning with a little doggy bag she insisted on taking away from the restaraunt.

All in all, I've enjoyed Phuket and really lucked out with PTC and CWB. Girls seem to be a little scarce on the ground and the prices are still pretty high. (Partly my fault.).

I've got lots of 18/19 and early twenties spinners lined up for when I get to Pattaya (from TF profiles, anyway), some I've videochatted (One who says she's 18 years and 6 months old) who was cute and smiley as fuck.

So, farewell Phuket, roll on Pattaya.

I've got a few pictures to add of CWB, but I'll attach them later when I'm not getting overlooked in a departure lounge.[/QUOTE]Delighted to see that you made it out of Phuket in one piece. It's a dirty job but someone'd got to do it.

Your mention of a doggy bag reminded me of something that happened in BKK a few years ago.

I picked up a girl from Nana Plaza, and eventually the conversation got round to was she hungry? She said "Yes", so I suggested Japanese.

She says, "I not eat before. Maybe I not like".

I promise she will and she does, so much so, that I end up ordering about 18 items. We ate never going to finish all that, but I do like to see a girl enjoying herself. Eventually she asks if it's ok for her to take the leftovers.

I say, "You want doggy bag". She doesn't understand so I explain it to her.

The waitress fills a large pizza box which just about closes without using force. We go back to the hotel and the following morning she leaves with the box. I've arranged to meet her again that evening. I phone her to arrange the meeting, and ask her where she wants to eat tonight? She answers, "I ok. I not hungry. I eat dog food".

This in turn has reminded of a second story regarding Thai Girls and Japanese food.

This time it was KS, and again the girl never eaten Japanese. The girl was a real "pleaser" and did everything she could for you, e. G. , get undressed and dump your clothes on a chair, and she would fold them and put them away for you, or in the laundry bag. So we were in the resto near Soi Mango, and I've ordered Sushi. For those who don't know, it is served with Soy Sauce and Wasabi which resembles the taste and effect of very strong horse-radish. You dilute the taste by mixing it soy. So she watches me do this. A few minutes later, I need to go to toilet. I come back, select a piece of Sushi, dip it in the mix, and about 2 seconds later my head is about to explode.

Little Miss Pleaser, has taken the entire remaining lump of Wasabi and mixed it in with the small amount of Soy that was on the dish. Aaaagh.

[QUOTE=WhiteShark;2580309]Enjoy your post and wonder to go Phuket for holiday.

What is scares me, apart obviously risk Covid related, it's the weather. It seems that it's really pouring water, and rains copiously. I would like to ask if Jungceylon is open and Central as well.

Other years in the in rainy day, afternoon in shopping mall, was a cool distraction, some food, windows shopping, a movie and wondering around looking the local fauna.

Thanks in advance for your kind reply.[/QUOTE]All the malls are shut. I never really found much to do on the rainy days.

Of the 14 days I was there, rain maybe only stopped play completely on 3 or 4 days.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2580567]All the malls are shut. I never really found much to do on the rainy days.

Of the 14 days I was there, rain maybe only stopped play completely on 3 or 4 days.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, I can use it.

I guess that most women or at Patong but I am staying in the town on Phuket. Is there a area in Phuket town where the girls hang out (I know the nightclubs are closed). If you can help that would be great.

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[QUOTE=TheCane;2581060]So you want to go to Thailand! Here's how:

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[QUOTE=WhiteShark;2580309]Enjoy your post and wonder to go Phuket for holiday.

What is scares me, apart obviously risk Covid related, it's the weather. It seems that it's really pouring water, and rains copiously. I would like to ask if Jungceylon is open and Central as well.

Other years in the in rainy day, afternoon in shopping mall, was a cool distraction, some food, windows shopping, a movie and wondering around looking the local fauna.

Thanks in advance for your kind reply.[/QUOTE]Sorry for my late response.

I gave up my trip to Pattaya. I am staying in Phuket and i am happy. I commute between hotels in Rawai and Patong. I find all my happiness here. It must be said that I started to build my network with massage parlors and my Thayfriendly contacts made before my arrival in Phuket. Here it is very safe, most people are vaccinated. Why would I go to Pattaya which is in the red zone, with a 9:00 pm curfew where there are covid clusters everywhere?

Regarding the weather, it is clear that this is not the most favorable period. From memory, it rained 3 or 4 days in a row at the start of my stay (I arrived on July 3). Then some beautiful torrential downpours that lasted 3 or 4 hours. Obviously I was underneath with my motobike. The weather has been very good and also hot for the past few days. I got really sunburnt.

Jungceylon is closed as well as Bangla road and most of the shops in Patong. A few bars, restaurants and hotels attract visitors. Thus, going from one to the other one can have the illusion that everything is (almost) normal. We just have to disregard the 95 % of stores closed. Since my arrival, I have nevertheless noticed that there are more and more tourists, this morning the large breakfast room was full of people at the Four Point Sheraton. When I arrived on July 3rd, we were right in the little restaurant on the beach road. Little by little, more and more shops and massage shops open and massage girls.

Besides, I find Patong more depressing than Rawai and Nai Harn where almost everything is open, there are more people, Nai Harn beach is more lively.

In the evening I will dine at Baanlaimai, last night all the tables were full I had trouble finding a place.

Thanks for your reply.

Well let's wait till August then, at the moment with all the rain and showers better hold, usual in August weather is improving.

Shopping malls, closures is big down point, how thai people think to attract tourists and support economy and sales?

Well is the land of smile. 👎128078;.

[QUOTE=Pimpampoumpipo;2581506]Sorry for my late response.

I gave up my trip to Pattaya. I am staying in Phuket and i am happy. I commute between hotels in Rawai and Patong. I find all my happiness here. It must be said that I started to build my network with massage parlors and my Thayfriendly contacts made before my arrival in Phuket. Here it is very safe, most people are vaccinated. Why would I go to Pattaya which is in the red zone, with a 9:00 pm curfew where there are covid clusters everywhere?

Regarding the weather, it is clear that this is not the most favorable period. From memory, it rained 3 or 4 days in a row at the start of my stay (I arrived on July 3). Then some beautiful torrential downpours that lasted 3 or 4 hours. Obviously I was underneath with my motobike. The weather has been very good and also hot for the past few days. I got really sunburnt.

Jungceylon is closed as well as Bangla road and most of the shops in Patong. A few bars, restaurants and hotels attract visitors. Thus, going from one to the other one can have the illusion that everything is (almost) normal. We just have to disregard the 95 % of stores closed. Since my arrival, I have nevertheless noticed that there are more and more tourists, this morning the large breakfast room was full of people at the Four Point Sheraton. When I arrived on July 3rd, we were right in the little restaurant on the beach road. Little by little, more and more shops and massage shops open and massage girls.

Besides, I find Patong more depressing than Rawai and Nai Harn where almost everything is open, there are more people, Nai Harn beach is more lively.

In the evening I will dine at Baanlaimai, last night all the tables were full I had trouble finding a place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WhiteShark;2581855]Thanks for your reply.

Well let's wait till August then, at the moment with all the rain and showers better hold, usual in August weather is improving.

Shopping malls, closures is big down point, how thai people think to attract tourists and support economy and sales?

Well is the land of smile. 👎128078;.[/QUOTE]Not sure. I remember a stay in Phuket in November there were thunderstorms which shook the walls of the hotel. The waves were so high that it was impossible to get out in a boat to dive.

My advice: between the covid and the weather, as soon as you have an opening, go for it !

I'm sorry, I can't remember the names of massage parlors. I never write them down, I go from memory and often I have to ask my little masseuses to send me their google position, the name or a photo of the place and sometimes it gives quite funny situations with interior photos of massages shops or expired google location just unusable.

This morning I went to see Pom, 30 years old. I find her cute. She must be within 163 cm at first glance but she has a very well proportioned body, as soon as I look at her I get a hard-on, which is rarely wrong sign for me. She massages me very well and when she's finished, she gently hugs me in my arms. She doesn't want to suck this little **** off me. Usually it's unacceptable but instead she comes to sit naked on my cock and jerk me off with her pussy. She plays with her hips and when I'm very close to enter inside she escapes which drives me crazy. When she considers that the torture has gone on long enough, she puts a condom on me and impales herself with me to end my suffering.

This afternoon I went to post a package for a friend in Pattaya. Despite my Waze and easy Rawai's setup, I couldn't find the post office. I ask a saleswoman on the side of the road who has no idea what I'm asking her. After 5 minutes of walking around her I discovered the post office just behind her little stand. I shouldn't have said "Post office" with the Thai accent, I think.
I go inside. No problem sending a package, an employee hands me a small cardboard box to inform the recipient. I reach a small tablet with pens after tripping over the fan cable and slipping on a roll of adhesive tape lying on the floor. There are a few receipt racks and a spider the size of my hand settles right in the one next to me.
I come back to the employees. One of them takes the package from me to weigh it. Everything seems to be going perfectly well and I am already happy, I will be able to go to the beach and the weather is nice. After a good 5 minutes she tells me that it is not possible to send the package to Pattaya because of the lockdown at the moment and everything is closed (and therefore the post offices too) but that I reassure myself because as soon as once the lockdown is over, I will be able to send my package again. She tells me to come back next week to see, yes but next week I'm going back to Paris, so I'll go home with my package if the lockdown is not over and in my opinion there will be a long time. In the meantime I have to pay the price of the box. I see them frankly sorry but they can't do nothing for me and I feel the same paralyzing despair invading me as when I try to buy alcohol outside of the authorized hours in 7/11.
The rules seen by the Thais are stronger than you, you will never have the last word, not even in your dream.

Just touched down in Phuket a couple days ago for what will hopefully be a several-month long trip. After suffering through the visa application, the COE application, emailing hotels to arrange testing and inquire about girl-friendliness, a terrible layover, and getting my brain inspected by a covid swab, I'm happy to have finally made it.

My first day, I arrived in the afternoon, went through immigration, got my first covid test, and then took my pre-arranged ride to my hotel in Patong. Getting out of the airport was not too bad; it took me a little over an hour to go from landing to finding my driver. After checking in, the hotel asked me to stay in my room until the covid test result came back, so I ordered room service and took a nap. I ended up getting the call after around 5-6 hours or so. By the time I was free, it was around 10 pm, and I went out for a walk to see what was around. On my way out, the front desk was kind enough to remind me to buy anything I needed before 11 pm, as that was when all the convenience stores would close.

It's my first time here so I have no reference for comparison, but things seemed very quiet and dead. I walked down the large ratuthit songroipi road, and along the way the only stores open were a couple of massage parlors and a small restaurant or two with a couple of customers each. I turned onto Bangla, walked over to the beach, and checked out the side street with suzy wong's. Literally everything was closed, and the only activity was a few foreigners drinking near the beach, and taxi drivers hanging out smoking. There did not appear to be any freelancers at the gate area like I was hoping. I did see one attractive young Asian girl sitting around on the stairs, but my sense was telling me she was a little too pretty and western-styled to be in the business, and she didn't look up for more than a glance. I don't really have a conventional monger appearance though, and most of my experience is from mongering in the USA where anyone under 30 and remotely attractive must be assessed with extreme caution (slight exaggeration), so I might be mistaken. I'm kind of kicking myself for not at least saying Hi.

I walked back up ratuthit with the intention of trying out a massage parlor, but then I saw a slim girl in a short, tight, slightly unfashionable dress, with fake tits, around medium height, standing facing the street. Jackpot--even I can't miss these signs. I was a little apprehensive due to her height (not sure how to tell apart ladyboys yet) but decided to just go for it anyway. She looked at me and then looked away (I think she might have been about to go home, or I just really don't look like a monger enough). I figured it probably wasn't going to get any better so I approached her and said "Hi". I hadn't done much research and I readily agreed to 1500 for short time without really trying to bargain, which I'm seeing now was maybe on the higher-end but still within reasonable bounds. Her friend showed up immediately after we started speaking (weird timing) and drove us to her recommended short-time hotel. The room was 300.

I'm not much of a smut writer so I'll just say--assisted shower, BBJ, BBFS, CIP. She was very compliant, extremely tight (too tight--I'm not exactly known for my size, but I couldn't get all the way in and we didn't have lube) and did a bit of service but overall the energy was pretty low and not very flirtatious or enthusiastic. Much of this was my own fault for not speaking the language and being very tired, but either way it was not the sexiest vibe. Still miles better than the USA though, and I feel like I was becoming spoiled 10 minutes into my first short-time here. We left shortly after completion, exchanged lines, and she called me a motorcycle back to my hotel.

I'm planning to focus on civilian tourist activities over the next few days, with a bit of sneaking off here and there; however, at this point I'm not completely sure yet where to reliably search for and find attractive girls, especially for LT. I've seen a few foreigners walking around with very pretty young spinners, including in my hotel lobby (maybe one of you guys haha), so they must be out there and available somewhere. Not sure if the official freelancer spot is somewhere other than where I was looking, or if wandering around at 11 pm on a random weekday night was just the wrong timing. My plan is to try one of the walking-distance massage parlors, and then rent a scooter looking for other activity I guess. The girl mentioned that she worked in a bar, though I was under the impression that bars and especially girl-bars were closed. I suppose I'll have to look harder. I did sign up for Thaifriendly but the selection seemed poor without paying for the membership, and I didn't bother trying to message anyone, but I'll explore this option more if I can't find anyone live.

Anyways, I'm glad to have finally made it to the LOS. Hope everyone is enjoying their time here.

[QUOTE=Brokend;2583411] I feel like I was becoming spoiled 10 minutes into my first short-time here.

[/QUOTE]Welcome to the world of mongering.

Explore at least 100 pages back in this forum. Use dating apps. You will get whatever you want. Only barrier is the present scenario.

[QUOTE=Brokend;2583411]
... but then I saw a slim girl in a short, tight, slightly unfashionable dress, with fake tits, around medium height, ..... extremely tight (too tight--I'm not exactly known for my size, but I couldn't get all the way in and we didn't have lube).[/QUOTE]It reminds me of my 2 failed experiences with operated transgender people.

The first time was in Pattaya. I exploded my condoms it was so tight.

The 2nd time was in Patong my 2nd week of sandboxing. As soon as I noticed it, I preferred to pay it and leave.

The problem with transgender people is that even when you ask them they assure you that they are real girls. Considering their operation, they must imagine that they are real girls now.

I specify that I have nothing against LB or transgender people. If they're happy, I'm happy. But it's not my thing, I can still have my preferences and I hate it when they lie about their gender. It is a product scam.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2579611]There's lots more girls in the 18-24 range than in Phuket. In an effort to remain organised, I tried to 'arrange' my Line contact list before adding any Pattaya girls. Like an idiot, I thought 'create' group was just an organisational feature. And so, what I've gone and done is add all the girls I've fucked and been talking to one huge group chat. They can all see who added them (me). And who else is in the group. Dealing with the fallout from that one. Yikes. I think it's good I'm leaving in a couple of days.[/QUOTE]This had me cracking up! Hahaha.

I just wanted to thank you and give you props for your well written accounts of your endavours. I am looking forward to hear from your future adventures.

So how terrible is the bus ride from Phuket to Bangkok? I'm concerned about getting into a long bus ride when I just have the sinopharm vaccination and I will have 2-3 suitcases because I'm moving to Thailand for at least a year (reports to come! I'm tempted to just do the quarantine in Bangkok, but Phuket sounds more fun.

Any thoughts / suggestions?

I've finally managed to navigate the sandbox program and in Patong now. Do not have much experience here (mostly done family holidays). Is there existing something similar to Mitu or Doki Doki here?

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2584393]So how terrible is the bus ride from Phuket to Bangkok? I'm concerned about getting into a long bus ride when I just have the sinopharm vaccination and I will have 2-3 suitcases because I'm moving to Thailand for at least a year (reports to come! I'm tempted to just do the quarantine in Bangkok, but Phuket sounds more fun.

Any thoughts / suggestions?[/QUOTE]I've never done that ride and not even sure it will be running when you want it.

One of my friends did that ride 5 times over the last 17 months and she says it is nice and comfortable, but she is only 152 cm and 44 kg. Masks worn the whole ride. What she rode was not a full size bus, it's what she called a mini bus, about 9 passengers if full. They do make stops along the way for additional riders and breaks. When she gave up her tiny apartment in Phuket, she shipped her few belongings separately. Luggage space on the mini bus is limited.

If you don’t trust your vaccine, you should reconsider taking that trip. It’s likely that there will be other passengers and the Thai COVID rate is high and unknown due to limited testing.

Hi, is there exists venue in Patong similar to Doki Doki or Mitu?

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2584393]So how terrible is the bus ride from Phuket to Bangkok? I'm concerned about getting into a long bus ride when I just have the sinopharm vaccination and I will have 2-3 suitcases because I'm moving to Thailand for at least a year (reports to come! I'm tempted to just do the quarantine in Bangkok, but Phuket sounds more fun.

Any thoughts / suggestions?[/QUOTE]Ride should be OK: 40 seater for 20 pax so enough space. Once tehy tehy fly again should be gone.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2584408]What she rode was not a full size bus, it's what she called a mini bus, about 9 passengers if full.[/QUOTE]Ouch. Absolutely do not attempt a ride in a commuter van from Phuket to Bangkok, unless it's to save a life and you have no other choice. Those things get uncomfortable even on a short 2-3 h ride (Bangkok to Pattaya), let alone a 14 h one from Phuket. Personally, if a van was my only choice for getting out, I'd stay in Phuket.

Full-size Thai buses (rot tour) can be fine, especially the 3-abreast VIP variety.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2585400]Ouch. Absolutely do not attempt a ride in a commuter van from Phuket to Bangkok, unless it's to save a life and you have no other choice. Those things get uncomfortable even on a short 2-3 h ride (Bangkok to Pattaya), let alone a 14 h one from Phuket. Personally, if a van was my only choice for getting out, I'd stay in Phuket.

Full-size Thai buses (rot tour) can be fine, especially the 3-abreast VIP variety.[/QUOTE]But I thought I read somewhere that farangs were not being allowed on those type buses for inter-province travel.

[QUOTE=Brokend;2583411]Just touched down in Phuket a couple days ago for what will hopefully be a several-month long trip....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pimpampoumpipo;2583225]I'm sorry, I can't remember the names of massage parlors. I never write them down,....[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed info. I have been thinking of flying into the Sandbox.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2580226]Sat writing this in departures at Phuket, on the way to BKK. So it looks like I'll make it as far as BKK. Much scrutiny of my vape, but eventually allowed to slide. Thorough check of my hold bag. There is something to be said to wearing a face mask. It conceals the sheer mortification on your face of watching a pretty Thai security lady pull out of your bag lube, condoms, kamagra, cialis, a sex toy.

Day 14.

Another lazy day. I've had my fill of beaches and waterfalls, so I just laze around the hotel all afternoon.

Had a date set with Cutie With A Booty for 6 pm. I just really can't be bothered with risking bad service with how difficult it is getting a girl up to my room here, so a repeat is safer. By 3 pm, I'm horny as fuck so I tell her to come over now. She arrives at 4 pm, dressed in a little kimono style dress that barely covers her arse.

I've written lots about CWB, so I'll just do the highlights for me;.

-Making her cum so hard with oral, she's in a half coma when I fuck her the first time.

- Giving her a back massage which she keeps saying, "Harder, harder!" to. I say I can't, don't want to hurt her. She says, "Why you fuck me so hard then?" Well, that's different sweetie.

-Finding out she can't really swim.

-Hiding her panties and having her convinced we'll have to go out for food with her wearing that little kimono, commando..[/QUOTE]Did any of the Thai girls tell you what cam sites they're working from?

Would be good to catch them and check them out.

Helping them financially of course. LOL.

[QUOTE=TConor;2585459]But I thought I read somewhere that farangs were not being allowed on those type buses for inter-province travel.[/QUOTE]No buses at all at the moment.

Interprovincial travel has been stopped.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2588080]No buses at all at the moment.

Interprovincial travel has been stopped.[/QUOTE]Nok Air flights continues.

[QUOTE=Butzelmann;2588929]Nok Air flights continues.[/QUOTE]Not all destinations.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2589103]Not all destinations.[/QUOTE]Right, but the sandboxers are more interested in how they got from the island in the first place. Whether to Bangkok or you-Tapao should be irrelevant.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2587967]Did any of the Thai girls tell you what cam sites they're working from?[/QUOTE]There is 3 main cam gigs the girls do.

1) Cam from their beer / gogo bars, usually you buy them drinks and there is no real nudity. I personally don't see the point in this garbage but each to their own. You can google them, they tend to move websites, get taken down, reappear etc.

2) You can see them on the usual big cam sites. Just search for Thai girls and you will come across many. Chaturbate, myfreecams, streamate etc. Just google "top adult cam sites" and you can go through them one by one.

I follow 2 of them occasionally on chaturbate. 1 chic cams from her place in issan. She has a nice place set in the forest, sometimes cams on the balcony looks cool, house is nice. There is another 1 that cams from either Samui or Phuket, again the view from her balcony is nice. Both are hot, live in really nice houses and I think both have farang boyfriends.

3) Onlyfans. There are tons of Thai girls on onlyfans. I personally can't get into this site. It is very "scammy" in that many girls don't do nudity. Some girls do some topless stuff then want you to pay $100 to see maybe a nude. There are some that do everything but you have to wade through a lot of scammers to find them and then when you do it ain't that great. Basically they want to charge way too much for way too little. I guess their market is outside of Thailand so charge and act accordingly. Little value for anyone that lives in Thailand, you can find hotter girls for less that will do anything for you right now.

Making any kind of porn is illegal in Thailand so it does not have a scene which is anywhere near the size of its sex industry. Everything is done on the down-low. You need to search a bit for it and then vet out all the crap.

Can anyone fill me on what the oily massage scene looks like in Rawai, Naiharn, or anywhere else?

In Patong, the number of massage girls is way down, though roughly half the shops are open (with a few girls each). Soi Kebsap no longer exists. The PHuket Nuru shop on Nanai is open but not the newer branch on Soi Sansabai); there was only one lady available when I visited (small but a bit older and with some baby damage).

I had a lot of trouble finding any decent looking spinners in Patong, which is why I'm asking about other areas of Phuket.

Best beaches with girls or full service establishments near by.

Besides Rawai and Patong.

Also how easy is it to have girls go to your place, like are taxis. Ubers easy to get. For situations when the girls aren't close.

Thank you.

What I did about taxis when I was in Phuket was to have several taxi drivers out their number in my phone and I would call one when I needed a taxi. Sometimes one wouldn't answer but I had a few numbers and always could get someone.

[QUOTE=ManchesterLad1;2589826]Best beaches with girls or full service establishments near by.

Besides Rawai and Patong.

Also how easy is it to have girls go to your place, like are taxis. Ubers easy to get. For situations when the girls aren't close.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horatio;2589859]What I did about taxis when I was in Phuket was to have several taxi drivers out their number in my phone and I would call one when I needed a taxi. Sometimes one wouldn't answer but I had a few numbers and always could get someone.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

I'll second the suggestion to collect number of taxi drivers. There's Grab, but it's not cheap in Phuket. And when I tried the cheaper. But still not cheap. Grab option (which includes taxis), I wasn't able to get any to accept.

If you are bringing girls to you, it's much cheaper for them to hire a motorbike. Some have their own motorbike. But that might not be a viable option for longer distances ( 6 km).

And, of course, this approach will work better if you already stayed someplace central and made the contacts (rather than paying a lot of baht for random people to come to your remote location).

[QUOTE=Pwrmnd;2589799]Can anyone fill me on what the oily massage scene looks like in Rawai, Naiharn, or anywhere else?

In Patong, the number of massage girls is way down, though roughly half the shops are open (with a few girls each). Soi Kebsap no longer exists. The PHuket Nuru shop on Nanai is open but not the newer branch on Soi Sansabai); there was only one lady available when I visited (small but a bit older and with some baby damage).

I had a lot of trouble finding any decent looking spinners in Patong, which is why I'm asking about other areas of Phuket.[/QUOTE]If you mean soapy or nuru style massage then in Rawai and Naiharn you might as well forget it totally as it doesn't exist.

Even getting an oil based bodyslide will be difficult to find if it exists at all, as most girls work the straight massage then either HJ, blowjob or sex path to have you finish.

But there are many straight out naughty massage available in Rawai, along Soi Saiyuan mainly, probably 20 plus shops thereabouts to check out the talent in.

Whist there are still many younger spinners hanging around still in Patong, with the stopping of restaurants serving alcohol, thee beach bars etc are closed, and the girls are now spread out further and likely harder to find.

[QUOTE=ManchesterLad1;2589826]Best beaches with girls or full service establishments near by.

Besides Rawai and Patong.

Also how easy is it to have girls go to your place, like are taxis. Ubers easy to get. For situations when the girls aren't close.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Kata and Karon are pretty much dead.

Probably operating at less than 10% of what they did before.

It's there but you have to know where to look.

North of Patong, Kamala, Surin, Bang Tao etc has always had some, but as it's more residential, and Muslim at that, it's less touristy and even more so hidden away. Kamala has a Soi with a few running off the main street when you turn at the traffic lights, Bang Tao has them around Boat Avenue. Around Chalong on the road to the pier you'll find them too, as well as in Soi Muay Thai (Soi Taed), but that's not beachside, and the ones in Phuket Town are still there too, but very quiet.

Patong and Rawai are the places for punting, and it's massage shop based now until alcohol (and bars) is allowed again.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2590080]Kata and Karon are pretty much dead.

Probably operating at less than 10% of what they did before.

It's there but you have to know where to look.

North of Patong, Kamala, Surin, Bang Tao etc has always had some, but as it's more residential, and Muslim at that, it's less touristy and even more so hidden away. Kamala has a Soi with a few running off the main street when you turn at the traffic lights, Bang Tao has them around Boat Avenue. Around Chalong on the road to the pier you'll find them too, as well as in Soi Muay Thai (Soi Taed), but that's not beachside, and the ones in Phuket Town are still there too, but very quiet.

Patong and Rawai are the places for punting, and it's massage shop based now until alcohol (and bars) is allowed again.[/QUOTE]In addition to using line and TF, I was thinking about trying to find cute girls in massage parlors and getting their contacts with the idea of them coming to my hotel for LT. Is this possible? Or do those girls mostly want to do HJ in the massage place and be done with it? I'm looking for spinners in the age 25 year old range.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2590077]If you mean soapy or nuru style massage then in Rawai and Naiharn you might as well forget it totally as it doesn't exist.

Even getting an oil based bodyslide will be difficult to find if it exists at all, as most girls work the straight massage then either HJ, blowjob or sex path to have you finish.

But there are many straight out naughty massage available in Rawai, along Soi Saiyuan mainly, probably 20 plus shops thereabouts to check out the talent in.

Whist there are still many younger spinners hanging around still in Patong, with the stopping of restaurants serving alcohol, thee beach bars etc are closed, and the girls are now spread out further and likely harder to find.[/QUOTE]This is really helpful. I really just meant "naughty" oil massage.

Are the massage shops concentrated more on the Naiharn beach side or the Friendship beach side?

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2590206]In addition to using line and TF, I was thinking about trying to find cute girls in massage parlors and getting their contacts with the idea of them coming to my hotel for LT. Is this possible? Or do those girls mostly want to do HJ in the massage place and be done with it? I'm looking for spinners in the age 25 year old range.[/QUOTE]I've had a lot of luck recruiting the massage girls. It doesn't hurt to ask.

[QUOTE=Pwrmnd;2590396]I've had a lot of luck recruiting the massage girls. It doesn't hurt to ask.[/QUOTE]Yeh, that's what I was thinking. It can't hurt to try a few times, though I guess it does hurt the wallet if wouldn't otherwise use the massage parlor. I'm too old (around 50) to win them over with my looks anymore, but maybe just being nice and seeming safe will be enough given the current need for money.

I'm waiting for my new visa in the country I'm currently living and it has been a pain to make any progress since I have to send everything to the US. I need a document authenticated, but to do that the sec state of my home state has to verify it and that office won't verify it until my county verifies it. So I need 3 places to authenticate it before the document will be accepted where I am currently living. So I'm looking at another month (at best) before I'll be able to get a flight to Thailand, by which time some of my job opportunities will be gone.

[QUOTE=Pwrmnd;2590394]This is really helpful. I really just meant "naughty" oil massage.

Are the massage shops concentrated more on the Naiharn beach side or the Friendship beach side?[/QUOTE]The Friendship beach side.

The red lines mark where you will find clusters at least 2-3, up to 5 a few times within a 100 meter strip.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2590206]In addition to using line and TF, I was thinking about trying to find cute girls in massage parlors and getting their contacts with the idea of them coming to my hotel for LT. Is this possible? Or do those girls mostly want to do HJ in the massage place and be done with it? I'm looking for spinners in the age 25 year old range.[/QUOTE]TF might work to find them, but LINE won't as there's no search function.

If you see someone you like at a shop, grab her LINE and then chat to arrange out of shop time.

You may be up for having to pay the shop 500 a day for them to leave the shop and be with you.

As to what these girls want to do in the shop, well they will settle for a HJ, but they will generally want to do more.

BBBJ or full sex, as that is where the money is for them.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2590542]TF might work to find them, but LINE won't as there's no search function.

If you see someone you like at a shop, grab her LINE and then chat to arrange out of shop time.

You may be up for having to pay the shop 500 a day for them to leave the shop and be with you.

As to what these girls want to do in the shop, well they will settle for a HJ, but they will generally want to do more.

BBBJ or full sex, as that is where the money is for them.[/QUOTE]Interesting. And if I could ask a follow-up or two, what would be the going rate for these girls (massage parlor girls or TF) for LT at a hotel? And when contacting a girl on TF or Line, should my initial contact ask bluntly about coming over for LT? I don't want to offend anyone, but I don't want to give the impression I'm interested in dating. If I decide to date someone, it will probably be someone I meet in person rather than a dating app. I notice most girls on TF don't give age preferences for men, which makes me think they don't care about age as a culture or there are a lot of freelancers out there.

If anyone would like to share an example script for contacting on TF, I would be grateful. I don't want to take 2 weeks to get good at it and miss out on the girls I find most attractive while I work out the kinks.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2591077]Interesting. And if I could ask a follow-up or two, what would be the going rate for these girls (massage parlor girls or TF) for LT at a hotel? And when contacting a girl on TF or Line, should my initial contact ask bluntly about coming over for LT? I don't want to offend anyone, but I don't want to give the impression I'm interested in dating. If I decide to date someone, it will probably be someone I meet in person rather than a dating app. I notice most girls on TF don't give age preferences for men, which makes me think they don't care about age as a culture or there are a lot of freelancers out there.

If anyone would like to share an example script for contacting on TF, I would be grateful. I don't want to take 2 weeks to get good at it and miss out on the girls I find most attractive while I work out the kinks..[/QUOTE]They're after the money primarily, if they think they'd like more they'll press that body to body.

So, be politely blunt upfront, say come stay overnight (LT) and you'll look after them financially.

Let them ask how much is my suggestion, then push them for what they want.

Going prices for LT are between 2-3,000, tho you'd want a performing good looker for the top end.

Generally 2000 is a safe estimate of what to aim for.

Tho don't be surprised with girls asking as little as 1500.

I always used to find an incentive based price structure worked best.

I'd offer 1500 or 2000฿ in reply when they asked for 2500 or 3000, saying that was guaranteed.

And if "we" had a great time I'd give them a good tip in the morning.

Normally they'd then ask how much tip, and I'd say 500, maybe more, and tell them that was up to them.

Can't help you with TF as never used it.

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[QUOTE=CIMguy;2591077]Interesting. And if I could ask a follow-up or two, what would be the going rate for these girls (massage parlor girls or TF) for LT at a hotel? And when contacting a girl on TF or Line, should my initial contact ask bluntly about coming over for LT? I don't want to offend anyone, but I don't want to give the impression I'm interested in dating. If I decide to date someone, it will probably be someone I meet in person rather than a dating app. I notice most girls on TF don't give age preferences for men, which makes me think they don't care about age as a culture or there are a lot of freelancers out there.

If anyone would like to share an example script for contacting on TF, I would be grateful. I don't want to take 2 weeks to get good at it and miss out on the girls I find most attractive while I work out the kinks.[/QUOTE]Going rate: Right now, they are probably eager to find customers as the in-shop prospects are dim. For ST, I think 2 k is doable even for the beautiful ones. That's often their starting point for negotiation. Many attractive ones only want 1. 5 k. It's a buyer's market. Mommies and older ones might should be 1. 5 k max. I'm not sure about LT, but maybe 3 k. Some will ask a lot more, and some will be happy with 2 k. Others can do ST but won't do LT (have family or whatever). For LT, I think it's important to be clear about your expectations (staying until XX, sex twice, etc.). It really helps if they can see a clear picture of you (even if you're not beautiful. Else they perhaps imagine the worst), video chat with you, or meet you in person first. Video chatting is a great option because it will help you weed out some weirdos, fakes, or ladyboys.

Chatting: If you start chatting, ask them what they are looking for. Most in the game will just tell you straight away that they are looking for customers. Or they will be shy and ambiguous and try to get you to say what you want. I think it's best to just be polite-but-blunt and not waste anyone's time. Your profile could also have made this clear. Or just ask them to come to your hotel. I found that almost all who agreed to that without reluctance were in the game, even if they didn't want to come out and say it.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2591077]Interesting. And if I could ask a follow-up or two, what would be the going rate for these girls (massage parlor girls or TF) for LT at a hotel?[/QUOTE]JJanni blazed this trail in early July and wrote some great reports. If I recall correctly, some of his reports quoted current prices. I last left Phuket in March 2020 and I was paying about 3000 THB ST for beautiful girls pulled from agogo bars on Soi Sea Dragon (just off Bangla Road), but I also paid bar fines of about 1200 THB. That 3000 THB figure is more than I would expect you need to pay for the hottest girl you can find in Phuket. My guess is about 1500-2000 THB ST for a hottie.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2591292]JJanni blazed this trail in early July and wrote some great reports. If I recall correctly, some of his reports quoted current prices. I last left Phuket in March 2020 and I was paying about 3000 THB ST for beautiful girls pulled from agogo bars on Soi Sea Dragon (just off Bangla Road), but I also paid bar fines of about 1200 THB. That 3000 THB figure is more than I would expect you need to pay for the hottest girl you can find in Phuket. My guess is about 1500-2000 THB ST for a hottie.[/QUOTE]Thailand cherry boy, so I'm sure I was overpaying given the current environment. I think I was paying about 1500 short time, 2000-2500 long time.

Maybe it was just me or I picked the right girls, but service was fantastic. Deep French kissing, girls iniating second and third rounds, bbfscip, anal virgins willing to give it a try etc.

Actually think I preferred the girls in phuket to pattaya, despite there being at the time, a relative dearth younger girls. Most of the Phuket girls I did were in their late 20's and early 30's.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2591301]Thailand cherry boy, so I'm sure I was overpaying given the current environment. I think I was paying about 1500 short time, 2000-2500 long time.

Maybe it was just me or I picked the right girls, but service was fantastic. Deep French kissing, girls iniating second and third rounds, bbfscip, anal virgins willing to give it a try etc.

Actually think I preferred the girls in phuket to pattaya, despite there being at the time, a relative dearth younger girls. Most of the Phuket girls I did were in their late 20's and early 30's.[/QUOTE]No, those rates are right on the money for Phuket massage and bar type working girls.

Plus you'd need to factor in a bar fine or massage shop fee.

Tho often you can skip that if you meet outside the workplace.

Thanks everyone for the info. I did read most of J Janni's posts, but I don't think I went all the way back to the beginning of his stay.

The prices sound really reasonable. I'm hoping to do about 2 stays per week for LT, so I'm hoping to find a couple enjoyable girls early and have a couple regulars while mixing in a new one here and there.

Looking at TF, there seem to be more attractive girls in Pattaya, but I recognize that this might not translate into actual sex.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2591477]Thanks everyone for the info. I did read most of J Janni's posts, but I don't think I went all the way back to the beginning of his stay.

The prices sound really reasonable. I'm hoping to do about 2 stays per week for LT, so I'm hoping to find a couple enjoyable girls early and have a couple regulars while mixing in a new one here and there.

Looking at TF, there seem to be more attractive girls in Pattaya, but I recognize that this might not translate into actual sex.[/QUOTE]It sounds good.

But I doubt the plan will last.

The only limiter to the number of girls you will have will be the available funds to pay for them with.

Hi guys,

Thanks for the amazing report. I am going to Phuket tonight and wondering what is the TF you used to find girls?

I'm traveling non-solo so I hope I'd be more accurate with my actions.

Where can I meet the girls and I use line to stay in touch with them?

Many thanks!

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2591731]It sounds good.

But I doubt the plan will last.

The only limiter to the number of girls you will have will be the available funds to pay for them with.[/QUOTE]Don't get my hopes up like that.

I am limiting myself to 2-3 girls per week for financial reasons.

I was thinking about splitting my two weeks in Phuket to see more of the island, but I obviously don't want to shut myself away where girls are not accessible.

What are the best places to find girls on Phuket outside of Patong. I am wondering about Phukettown and the other beaches. When I say available, I mean places where there might be girls sitting around or in massage places or restaurants / bars where I could approach them and try to get Lines. Or maybe places that have a lot of TF girls.

And while I'm at it, are there any escort agencies on Phuket?

I have a flight for Sept. 6th, so I should be able to provide reports soon!

[QUOTE=AsianMarkCuban;2592290]Hi guys,

Thanks for the amazing report. I am going to Phuket tonight and wondering what is the TF you used to find girls?

I'm traveling non-solo so I hope I'd be more accurate with my actions.

Where can I meet the girls and I use line to stay in touch with them?

Many thanks![/QUOTE]TF is ThaiFriendly. Most girls that I've spoken to on TF are freelancers. Very small sample size, but the few girls I've spoken to opened around 3 k ST, negotiable very readily to 2.5 k. LT varied widely from 4 k to 6 k+ to sometimes just not available at all or highly discouraged. I've only messaged girls on TF that I consider to be extremely attractive, as I usually prefer higher quality for outcalls, and I'm sure others could find better deals.

A few days ago I drove over to Phoonpon Road around 8 pm to see what was up and hopefully try out a soapy massage. All the large massage shops were closed (Katherine's etc) as I drove around. The atmosphere was pretty bad as the immigration police appeared to be rounding up families (maybe Burmese workers?) and having them sit outside in rows for whatever reason. New Angel massage had some men sitting outside (not sure if they were actually affiliated with the store but I assume so since the lights were on). The men said that the massage store was closed due to covid by government order but they had a couple of girls on call. The choices were not the most appealing but I was interested to see the setup so I figured why not. The man messaged the girl, and led me by scooter down the block to a hotel (Piano Resident). Met the girl who took me up to the room. The room looked clean (though we dimmed the lights), had AC, a big mirror, and a nice elevated bathtub. Service was a joint bath in the bathtub, followed by BBJ and FS on the bed. Damage was 2 k.

Afterwards I also took a quick ride down Phoonpon Soi 11, since I had seen it mentioned in a previous report. There was a little bit of action (bunch of women sitting around, men soliciting) but the block felt very rundown.

Hoping things actually reopen on the 16th.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2592685]I was thinking about splitting my two weeks in Phuket to see more of the island, but I obviously don't want to shut myself away where girls are not accessible.

What are the best places to find girls on Phuket outside of Patong. I am wondering about Phukettown and the other beaches. When I say available, I mean places where there might be girls sitting around or in massage places or restaurants / bars where I could approach them and try to get Lines. Or maybe places that have a lot of TF girls.

And while I'm at it, are there any escort agencies on Phuket?

I have a flight for Sept. 6th, so I should be able to provide reports soon![/QUOTE]Outside of paying itself there is really only Rawai that has what you are looking for in large numbers.

Northern beaches have some at Kamala and Bang Tao / Boat Avenue.

Also Chalong has quite a few around Soi Ta Ed (aka Soi Muay Thai) and Soi Sunrise down to Chalong Pier.

I loaded a map earlier for someone showing where in Rawai.

That area would have 30 plus operating massage shops that are full on naughty.

And it is where all the bar girls (who currently can't work as bars are closed) are still hanging around.

If you see a cute sexy skimpy dressed girl in Rawai, on the streets, stop and ask for her LINE.

If she's single, or available and interested, which is likely 50% plus, she will give it, and then you can chat online to arrange.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2592685]I was thinking about splitting my two weeks in Phuket to see more of the island, but I obviously don't want to shut myself away where girls are not accessible.

What are the best places to find girls on Phuket outside of Patong. I am wondering about Phukettown and the other beaches. When I say available, I mean places where there might be girls sitting around or in massage places or restaurants / bars where I could approach them and try to get Lines. Or maybe places that have a lot of TF girls.

And while I'm at it, are there any escort agencies on Phuket?

I have a flight for Sept. 6th, so I should be able to provide reports soon![/QUOTE]The rest of my answer.

There's no massage shops or easy places to see girls hanging around Phuket Town.

And what is there is more aimed at the Thai locals.

That said tho, it is where a lot of Thai Friendly girls can be found.

The ones that don't work bars, but have normal jobs in retail and offices, etc.

So if you're after an amateur part time sex girl, then Phuket town will have them on TF.

If you're after a more professional girl of TF, then it's Patong that has the TF freelancers.

As to escort agencies, there used to be some high end pricey ones around.

But I'd doubt they're still operating.

Worth an online check tho.

[QUOTE=AsianMarkCuban;2592290]Hi guys,

Thanks for the amazing report. I am going to Phuket tonight and wondering what is the TF you used to find girls?

I'm traveling non-solo so I hope I'd be more accurate with my actions.

Where can I meet the girls and I use line to stay in touch with them?

Many thanks![/QUOTE]If you don't mind me asking, where are you staying? I have been looking for places to do the quarantine that are also girl friendly and it has been a little difficult. My top 2 choices were negative, and I haven't heard back from most of the others. I'm wondering if you verified having visitors because it seems hotels have changed their policies due to covid.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2592991]If you don't mind me asking, where are you staying? I have been looking for places to do the quarantine that are also girl friendly and it has been a little difficult. My top 2 choices were negative, and I haven't heard back from most of the others. I'm wondering if you verified having visitors because it seems hotels have changed their policies due to covid.[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Andamantara. Hotel was resort style up a cliff. Three ways to get my room. 'Internal' through reception and past the bar and pools, walk up the steep as fuck road, or jump in the oncall pickup truck bus to get up to the room.

First night, as soon as my covid test results came through (take a note of the website on the counter at the airport, it's where you can check your results yourself. I've heard of people sitting into their rooms the next day waiting for the hotel to tell them the results), I got a TF girl over (Cutie With a Booty who I ended up repeating lots with). While I was waiting down at reception for her, I inquired with the night guy and he said '1000 baht joiner fee. ' I said, "Forget we had this conversation. And we'll just walk up to my room. " he said ok.

Road was steep as fuck, so YMMV on this option if you're not young and fit. Lots of the girls complained about the walk. Ended up giving CWB a piggyback up the second night. By the second week, I was just getting ballsy and jumping in the bus with girls at all hours of the day. Couple of times I slipped the reception guys and the bus drivers some small money and the joiner fee was never mentioned again.

Hotel was OK with guests taking scooters up to their rooms, but not cars - I've never driven a scooter in my life, so rainy season in Phuket wasn't my intention to start. May be a way around the joiner fee/walk if you can ride one.

So, what hotels say and what you can get away with can be very different. This is Thailand as the expats say. Maybe I got away with a lot because I was literally the only Farang in the hotel the first week. (Only one stupid enough to go all in on getting there July 1st!

I'm still in a Phuket sandbox group (Phuket Sandbox. Better Phuket by I Asia, good source of Information on the ever changing rules and situation) and the reality on the ground seems ever-changing, different rules and regulations coming out every day, and all hotels having a different understanding and implementation of them.

Lurkers, just making an inquiry into if anyone has seen a few InstaGram models prancing around Phuket doing any modeling. One I think is a well known model named Francine Dee, a Pinay who normally models the hot rod circuit, and another a big boobed Chinese lady from Singapore. Just curious since I've seen them posting from there and here I thought all travel and visiting in Thailand was a no-no. Just curious if anyone has seen any of them.

[QUOTE=Drbombay;2593760]Lurkers, just making an inquiry into if anyone has seen a few InstaGram models prancing around Phuket doing any modeling. One I think is a well known model named Francine Dee, a Pinay who normally models the hot rod circuit, and another a big boobed Chinese lady from Singapore. Just curious since I've seen them posting from there and here I thought all travel and visiting in Thailand was a no-no. Just curious if anyone has seen any of them.[/QUOTE]It would be older pics from previous trips, you can always chose the location in IG, it need not pick up the poster's current location. Most of these IG girls post glam pics from archive to be relevant and current.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2593668]I stayed at the Andamantara. Hotel was resort style up a cliff. Three ways to get my room. 'Internal' through reception and past the bar and pools, walk up the steep as fuck road, or jump in the oncall pickup truck bus to get up to the room.

First night, as soon as my covid test results came through (take a note of the website on the counter at the airport, it's where you can check your results yourself. I've heard of people sitting into their rooms the next day waiting for the hotel to tell them the results), I got a TF girl over (Cutie With a Booty who I ended up repeating lots with). While I was waiting down at reception for her, I inquired with the night guy and he said '1000 baht joiner fee. ' I said, "Forget we had this conversation. And we'll just walk up to my room. " he said ok.

Road was steep as fuck, so YMMV on this option if you're not young and fit. Lots of the girls complained about the walk. Ended up giving CWB a piggyback up the second night. By the second week, I was just getting ballsy and jumping in the bus with girls at all hours of the day. Couple of times I slipped the reception guys and the bus drivers some small money and the joiner fee was never mentioned again..[/QUOTE]I already chose the Austrian Gardens, but I'll keep it in mind if I stay in Patong longer than the 14 days.

I'm not surprised that your hotel was willing to back off its rules. I just didn't want to take the chance with so much fun on the line. I stayed in Bangkok my last visit and my hotel was not supposed to be guest friendly, but they never said anything. I got some dirty / confused looks, but they never said anything. In Berlin, I asked the guy on night shift if I could have someone come for a "massage." he said they weren't supposed to let me, but he wouldn't say anything when he was working. He was the late night manager and there almost every night, so I slipped him 40 euro and a big thank you and had girls up every night.

[QUOTE=ArisCasa;2593775]It would be older pics from previous trips, you can always chose the location in IG, it need not pick up the poster's current location. Most of these IG girls post glam pics from archive to be relevant and current.[/QUOTE]You know you may be right. One who is supposedly down there living the glamour life actually hit me up for a few bucks for some pictures. I've seen this one from afar in Singapore before so I was curious if she was really out there, or just making it up.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2592859]The rest of my answer.

There's no massage shops or easy places to see girls hanging around Phuket Town.

And what is there is more aimed at the Thai locals.

That said tho, it is where a lot of Thai Friendly girls can be found.

The ones that don't work bars, but have normal jobs in retail and offices, etc.

So if you're after an amateur part time sex girl, then Phuket town will have them on TF.

If you're after a more professional girl of TF, then it's Patong that has the TF freelancers.

As to escort agencies, there used to be some high end pricey ones around.

But I'd doubt they're still operating.

Worth an online check tho.[/QUOTE]Hi dude,

I can only confirm what has been written.

I am in Phuket for a week now and my report is the following:

1- Karon: desertland or Tchernobil today.

2- Patong: Christine massage is down during Covid period while some others are open.

3- Phuket city: It is not the best mongering place on earth. The red light district (where are Katherine, New Angels and others) looks like a no go zone. So sad.

4- ThaiFriendly: excellent contact despite the fact I do not agree to subscribe 25 $ for a month. The limit for stingy man like me is: 1 message every 10 minutes. But finally I do not care as 75% of the girls (the fuckable one) are freelance and ok to give you their Line ID after 2 messages. Prices are from 1500 baths for a ST (girls 5/6) to 2000 (girls 6/7) and more for. More (but I did not see 8 or 9 there). 90% of the freelance on TF are in Patong, the rest a bit in Rawai, few exceptions Phuket town (or I am unlucky).

Guys, I will be moving to Rawai in few days following your advices. I have some TF contacts, any tips for hot massage parlor?

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2592855]Outside of paying itself there is really only Rawai that has what you are looking for in large numbers.

Northern beaches have some at Kamala and Bang Tao / Boat Avenue.

Also Chalong has quite a few around Soi Ta Ed (aka Soi Muay Thai) and Soi Sunrise down to Chalong Pier.

I loaded a map earlier for someone showing where in Rawai.

That area would have 30 plus operating massage shops that are full on naughty.

And it is where all the bar girls (who currently can't work as bars are closed) are still hanging around.

If you see a cute sexy skimpy dressed girl in Rawai, on the streets, stop and ask for her LINE.

If she's single, or available and interested, which is likely 50% plus, she will give it, and then you can chat online to arrange.[/QUOTE]If you have any tips in Rawai, I thank you in advance.

Otherwise today I gave à try to Phuket town. New Angel.

The red district is a desert at 4 pm.

- Katherine massage: closed.

- New Angel: Closed too but a man at the entrance. I stop the bike and I ask him about a possible deal. He replies that only 2 girls are available. He scroll his Google photos and, magical, the only two girls available have their pictures one next to the other in a middle of a folder with 1 xx of girls (clearly the girl I am going to meet is 4/5 while in his phone she is 7. Anyway I say OK. 2000 baths / 1 hour.

As New Angel is closes as for Covid, the guy takes his scooter and I follow him (just around the corner).

An hotel dedicated to such activity.

I pay at the reception and the lady appears. 5 in my ranking that means "fuckable".

Room with AC, light on at arrival, everything is ultra clean but it looks like a motel without window.

Hot bath together (15 min) - Massage (10 min back and front) - Sex (I decide not to fuck her but to fuck her mouth and to come quickly. The moment does not deserve a GFE -) 5 min. Bath again 10 minutes.

Honestly it is a waste of money but it is a waste of 2000 baths (50 euros = to nothing in Europe) that's why I do not care but I won't go again.

Next week Rawai so I count on you guys for preventing me to disappointment.

And I will be meeting my TF contact before reporting.

[QUOTE=Drbombay;2593760]Lurkers, just making an inquiry into if anyone has seen a few InstaGram models prancing around Phuket doing any modeling. One I think is a well known model named Francine Dee, a Pinay who normally models the hot rod circuit, and another a big boobed Chinese lady from Singapore. Just curious since I've seen them posting from there and here I thought all travel and visiting in Thailand was a no-no. Just curious if anyone has seen any of them.[/QUOTE]Give me their Instagram names and I'll look them and their posts up to let you know if I think the photos are current and they're there. There is at least one Chinese one there from Singapore, RebeccaChenxoxo.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2594150]Hi dude,

I can only confirm what has been written.

I am in Phuket for a week now and my report is the following:

1- Karon: desertland or Tchernobil today.

2- Patong: Christine massage is down during Covid period while some others are open.

3- Phuket city: It is not the best mongering place on earth. The red light district (where are Katherine, New Angels and others) looks like a no go zone. So sad.[/QUOTE]On Soi Saiyuan.

Starting from the lights when you turn off from Wiset Road.

Friends massage on left about 400 m along.

Sarinee Massage on right another 400 m along.

Coccoon Massage on right another 400 m along (opposite Family Mart).

New Star Massage on the left another 400 m along, opposite the lake.

The Best Massage on the left another 400 m along.

Relax Massage on the right another 400 m along, at the T intersection head to the right.

PM me if you want more specific advice on each.

For those of you new to Phuket, as in first time here.

Please be aware that little helpers (Kamagra, cialis, levitra, etc) are not as ready available there as they are in areas such as Bangkok and Pattaya. In Bangkok and Pattaya you will find them easily on street corners and motorbike touts, but not so in Phuket. Some pharmacies will have them, discreetly in Patong, if the pharmacy is still open that is. Otherwise you will have to bring with you or wait until you move where you can get them.

Tho another option exists.

I'm based in Phuket and have stock on hand, as well as access to quality stock shipped to me from Bangkok quickly.

So if you're interested and in need, send me a PM and I can discuss getting for you what you want.

Then I can have then ready to provide them to you when you arrive in Phuket, and make payment face to face.

Which will also be a great opportunity for you to get a lay of the land.

Looking forward to your PM's.

Even if it's just for on the ground Phuket information about puntingm good restaurants etc, and other activities to do.

P.S. If you're interested in scuba diving, trying it, or already a diver.

Then definitely PM me, as I'm a scuba diving registered instructor here (PADI) and can arrange all that for you.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2595417]Give me their Instagram names and I'll look them and their posts up to let you know if I think the photos are current and they're there. There is at least one Chinese one there from Singapore, RebeccaChenxoxo.[/QUOTE]Try to see begs. For. Mercy if she is actually or was there.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Drbombay;2595648]Try to see begs. For. Mercy if she is actually or was there.

Thanks![/QUOTE]"She" is not here now, maybe was here earlier, like months ago, but I doubt it.

The reason I can say that is because you can't come in and out of Phuket form Bangkok in the timeframe the posts are showing.

Also.

That looks very much like a post op transsexual to me.

I've been watching Fabulous 103 on youtube for my main source of covid updates in Thailand. They've been easy to listen to, concise, accurate, and very relevant (up to date).

They reported that yesterday, at least 8 bars in Bangla were open.

Anybody know if it's true?

[URL]https://youtu.be/id13ijHHjZg?t=191[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2594592]If you have any tips in Rawai, I thank you in advance.

Otherwise today I gave try to Phuket town. New Angel.

The red district is a desert at 4 pm.

- Katherine massage: closed.

- New Angel: Closed too but a man at the entrance. I stop the bike and I ask him about a possible deal. He replies that only 2 girls are available. He scroll his Google photos and, magical, the only two girls available have their pictures one next to the other in a middle of a folder with 1 xx of girls (clearly the girl I am going to meet is 4/5 while in his phone she is 7. Anyway I say OK. 2000 baths / 1 hour.

As New Angel is closes as for Covid, the guy takes his scooter and I follow him (just around the corner).

An hotel dedicated to such activity.

I pay at the reception and the lady appears. 5 in my ranking that means "fuckable".

Room with AC, light on at arrival, everything is ultra clean but it looks like a motel without window.

Hot bath together (15 min) - Massage (10 min back and front) - Sex (I decide not to fuck her but to fuck her mouth and to come quickly. The moment does not deserve a GFE -) 5 min. Bath again 10 minutes.[/QUOTE]Mate, unless things have changed since I was there in July, 2000 baht is all night GFE with a cute spinner BBFSCIP and as many rounds as you can mange.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2595605]For those of you new to Phuket, as in first time here.

Please be aware that little helpers (Kamagra, cialis, levitra, etc) are not as ready available there as they are in areas such as Bangkok and Pattaya. In Bangkok and Pattaya you will find them easily on street corners and motorbike touts, but not so in Phuket. Some pharmacies will have them, discreetly in Patong, if the pharmacy is still open that is. Otherwise you will have to bring with you or wait until you move where you can get them.

Tho another option exists.

I'm based in Phuket and have stock on hand, as well as access to quality stock shipped to me from Bangkok quickly.

So if you're interested and in need, send me a PM and I can discuss getting for you what you want.

Then I can have then ready to provide them to you when you arrive in Phuket, and make payment face to face.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate. I'll keep you in my mind when I visit again in near future. I'll definitely contact you.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2596345]I've been watching Fabulous 103 on youtube for my main source of covid updates in Thailand. They've been easy to listen to, concise, accurate, and very relevant (up to date).

They reported that yesterday, at least 8 bars in Bangla were open.

Anybody know if it's true?

[URL]https://youtu.be/id13ijHHjZg?t=191[/URL][/QUOTE]Bars are open in Bangla, especially during the afternoon.

Bar Funk for one.

But it's all being done covertly, alcohol in coffee mugs.

The key point tho is why would you bother going there?

There is no action there.

No girls, no music, nothing.

You're better off going along Beach Road, walk by the restaurants or even into Kudo Beach Club and spot the freelancers, as that is where they are all congregating these days.

An update for any sandbox planning visitors that were looking at Koh Samui, Koh Phangan and Koh Tao as part of your travel. Be warned that restrictions have been just announced there, with a nightly curfew on Phangan, and massage, gyms, and yoga all closed now.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2595705]"She" is not here now, maybe was here earlier, like months ago, but I doubt it.

The reason I can say that is because you can't come in and out of Phuket form Bangkok in the timeframe the posts are showing.

Also.

That looks very much like a post op transsexual to me.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the scouting report. Also, I'm not so sure she is a TS. The reason I say this is I did a basic Google search of her more recent photos and came up with some from her past under a different name. Lo and behold I even saw her spread on a calendar that she did back in 2002 and realized that's where I had seen her from. But I've never met her in person, but seen her work now for many years once I put 2 and 2 together.