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[QUOTE=Sperto;2852687]I don't care if a puteiro calls itself casa de massagem, priv or CLnica. However "CLnica" is also used in Rio. Some prives who consider they hold a higher standard use the name CLnica in their name. CLnica de massagem is like a priv offering massage and handjob (penetration might be negotiated).[/QUOTE]I stand corrected. Clinca [B](cost USD$50)[/B] is not a term used in Rio. It is only used in Sau Paulo for places similar to casa [B]in Medellin (cost $13). A casa in Medellin is similar to places like DarkRoom in Rio.[/B]
This post is just to introduce more context to express my original intention as DC is familiar with the term casa in Medellin so I skipped the detail.
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[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2852445]First noob strat I wish I had known last year: prioritize week days. Saturdays, hobby running at 30% and on Sundays operate 0%. These 2 days are best used meeting who ever you exchanged WhatsApp earlier that week.
Also unlike my Mexico antics: RDJ starts early like 10-11 am and be back early too, out too late the pick pockets and worse start filling the street tourists urged be out of there ahead of time.[/QUOTE]That's a good suggestion.
We are landing on Saturday into Rio and leaving Thursday. So probably have to plan our hobby vs sightseeing.
BTW. Can any one suggest how to look for chica friendly Airbnb. I have booked 2 bedroom apartment near Copacabana ($800 CAD) though they did not specifically mentioned about guest policy but no party, no smoking policy. Not sure if this means. No entry for chicas?
I always stays in hotels wingman and never had problem. Including Medellin Sheraton. But this time we 4 people, hence ended up taking 2 bedroom apartment and not sure if run into any issues.
We have until 3 pm to cancel our Airbnb but so far we did not find any chica friend. Appreciate any intel via PM.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2852769]I stand corrected. Clinca [B](cost USD$50)[/B] is not a term used in Rio. It is only used in Sau Paulo for places similar to casa [B]in Medellin (cost $13). A casa in Medellin is similar to places like DarkRoom in Rio.[/B]
This post is just to introduce more context to express my original intention as DC is familiar with the term casa in Medellin so I skipped the detail.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the lingo clarifications Nounce.
For some reason I am used to say casa anywhere I go in south America. The same was mentioned when I was in Cuba but realized Cubans use that word different and got offended.
Casa particular is regular tourist accommodation in Cuba.
Have to remember these lingos.
I am trying to find a reports of distinction on Brazil TR. I remember book marked but cannot find. Can anyone share or point to the post so that I want to fresh my memory and note down the places to visit and prices.
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SIM without CPF
I found out I ran out of data but I decided to just get a new chip with data when I saw a TIM shopping stand. I have been to this stand before and they told me CPF is required. Today I told them I have passport (I was going to an airline to purchase flight) and they told me they only accept CPF. Then asked if I have friend here. I said no. The girl said you are all alone here? I said yes and I know no one. Hehe. I told them I got chip in Rio and Sao Paulo without CPF and passport. Then they talked to each other and asked me do I want to put credit on my chip or a new chip. I said I want a new chip with data on it. Then I saw she opened a file on her phone with a list of numbers that looked like CPF number. They proceeded to register a SIM chip for me. LOL. So I guess some would help you when they know what you already know that one can get a chip without CPF.
I think it's about their closing time, I would try to invite both to dinner to thank them as excuse if I wasn't going to the airline.
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[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2853032]...
I am trying to find a reports of distinction on Brazil TR..[/QUOTE]It is here.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2790867]Axel Heyst gets straight to the point on how to play the game. [/QUOTE]
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FWIW, I have not lived at the grand hyatt barra but I live close by:
- Pesquira (spelling is wrong) is a top fish spot nearby on praia the reserva. Very white, very whites only, very expenlsive, girls from top termas love to go there to get their pics there as it is a status thing, and of course you are paying.
- I don't like this area (posto 7 - 9) as it is even more whites only than posto 6.
- it is safe.
- the uber residence in the area is novo leblon where the lawyer at conservative church groups live.
- you can find some social commentary on this on porto dos fundos channel on youtube, google barra.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2850012]Have you or anyone else stayed at the grand hyatt in barra that's right on the beach?
I'm flying in early from SP to Rio in OCT and going to book one night there so I can just drop the bags off and start enjoying rio. Booking an airbnb for the rest of the trip.
Does anyone know if it's GF friendly or not? Grand hyatt is usually pretty flexible but I will be staying with a buddy and I have it booked for two people. Sometimes they just charge 150 BRL to let them stay at least in SP but idk in barra. If anything I can get a love motel room for 150 BRL in rio but if I can have a girl over for an hour or two that would be ideal as it's in a suite.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2853023]
BTW. Can any one suggest how to look for chica friendly Airbnb. I have booked 2 bedroom apartment near Copacabana ($800 CAD) though they did not specifically mentioned about guest policy but no party, no smoking policy. Not sure if this means. No entry for chicas?
[/QUOTE]A Garota friendly AirBnB in Rio. Copacabana would be very useful. Anyone have a lead on one?
Of course, the issue is Security, a lot of places just don't let guests in.
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Ask the host
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2853802]A Garota friendly AirBnB in Rio. Copacabana would be very useful. Anyone have a lead on one?
Of course, the issue is Security, a lot of places just don't let guests in.[/QUOTE]Before you book just ask the host if you can have any visitors during your stay. Just say you have friends in the area that will come by to visit for a few hours but not stay overnight.
Copa hosts know the drill and will be cool as long as you don't throw a party in the room or trash / smoke the room up.
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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2853685]FWIW, I have not lived at the grand hyatt barra but I live close by:
- Pesquira (spelling is wrong) is a top fish spot nearby on praia the reserva. Very white, very whites only, very expenlsive, girls from top termas love to go there to get their pics there as it is a status thing, and of course you are paying.
- I don't like this area (posto 7 - 9) as it is even more whites only than posto 6.
- it is safe.
- the uber residence in the area is novo leblon where the lawyer at conservative church groups live.
- you can find some social commentary on this on porto dos fundos channel on youtube, google barra.[/QUOTE]Looks like a nice resort for sure. The plan is get a SP girl to come with me to Rio, take her here for the first day then go to Buzio for 2 days and send her back home. As a new born carioca, I've seen the affect rio does to SP girls and it's so worth it.
I'll post my experience once I finish my trip and see how it goes.
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Care to elaborate a bit
At Vagabundo,
I ain't white and don't like the whites only vibe I pick up on in Leblon. Is Barra really like that north of posto 3?
Got a trip coming up and was planning on staying in Barra on an upcoming trip (probably posto 3-6 area). Pesqueiro was on my radar to take a regular girl of mine to splurge. Also wanted to stay in Barra for some solitude and beach relaxing.
If I've got to deal with a bunch of snooty glares it's not worth it.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2853685]FWIW, I have not lived at the grand hyatt barra but I live close by:
- Pesquira (spelling is wrong) is a top fish spot nearby on praia the reserva. Very white, very whites only, very expenlsive, girls from top termas love to go there to get their pics there as it is a status thing, and of course you are paying.
- I don't like this area (posto 7 - 9) as it is even more whites only than posto 6.
- it is safe.
- the uber residence in the area is novo leblon where the lawyer at conservative church groups live.
- you can find some social commentary on this on porto dos fundos channel on youtube, google barra.[/QUOTE]
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Became a statistic
Was out late on Sao Paulo, finished a session, thought find place to eat when I get off subway. Walking on sidewalk, Looked at my phone 11 pm loading Google Maps when SP bicycle bandit full speed snatched my phone. Has all my pics and Sim card. They didn't grab my satchel or wallet cards or assault me thank god but this sucks.
Using my hobby burner phone without a SIM connected to hotel wi-fi.
Suggestions on brand of SIM to throw in here for a few days.
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The first part of fun is SAFETY
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2854301]Was out late on Sao Paulo, finished a session, thought find place to eat when I get off subway. Walking on sidewalk, Looked at my phone 11 pm loading Google Maps when SP bicycle bandit full speed snatched my phone. Has all my pics and Sim card. They didn't grab my satchel or wallet cards or assault me thank god but this sucks.
Using my hobby burner phone without a SIM connected to hotel wi-fi.
Suggestions on brand of SIM to throw in here for a few days.[/QUOTE]I always recommend people to use a strap / lanyard connector to your phone. I use one for my phone. In SP and RJ I had a guy dash to my side and try to take my phone (republica in SP and Centro in RJ, both not safe places) and since I had my phone strapped to my wrist, the moment they felt that it wasn't going to come out my hand easily they just kept biking. They are not going to stop and fight you for it because they are cowards and don't want to throw hands with a 100% all american beef cake (I have a planet fitness membership so I'm basically the most strongest man in the western hemisphere chiseled by allah himself).
Also wear shorts or pants with zippers so you can put your cash / phone in there and no one is getting in those bad boys without giving you a BBBJ first.
The trannies that walk along cocoa carvana streets at night will always swarm you and try to feel you up and dig their man hands down your shorts for some dead presidents and all they'll get is the muscly thighs of an American patriot.
My iphone set up is a bit more heavy duty then the example pics because I built my own system that works with a specific case and wrist strap system that I put together myself but anything will really work as long as it can take some pull resistance and not snap.
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[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2854301]... Walking on sidewalk, Looked at my phone 11 pm loading Google Maps when SP bicycle bandit full speed snatched my phone. ....[/QUOTE]They made a video to warn people this. I warned about this several times here. They will try to grab something from you even when you have nothing. I was lucky because I didn't use phone cover so it was slippery and dropped to the ground. I wasn't thinking that bicycle could come up to the sidewalk and was texting.
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I say whites only as an economic not legal observation around Pesqueiro and praia do reserva.
Of course all colors are allowed, but in practice, there are very few negra or mulatta faces.
I was there with a mulatta, and my money is good so it was no problem.
Professionals study logistics. The city buses do not go on that strand of beach. The patricinhas and patricios like this exclusivity. I do not.
The brown and black cariocas are generally going to take a bus unless they are with you to pay for uber, a luxury, and even uber takes fore-eeever at pesquiro.
It's just the vibe, and it is not for me, but it is for some people.
Leblon rich areas like dias ferreira not to mention olegario maciel has black faces too, but they tend to be richer or profile as successful actresses, better dressed, not wearing vasco the gama.
[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;2854289]At Vagabundo,
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I ain't white and don't like the whites only vibe I pick up on in Leblon. Is Barra really like that north of posto 3?
Got a trip coming up and was planning on staying in Barra on an upcoming trip (probably posto 3-6 area). Pesqueiro was on my radar to take a regular girl of mine to splurge. Also wanted to stay in Barra for some solitude and beach relaxing.
If I've got to deal with a bunch of snooty glares it's not worth it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2851882]Bearsi, I personally won't even consider someone still carry a student loan at your age. I don't know anyone after working a few years still owe student loan. If the student qualification is good, he or she can easily have a choice of the school he or she wants to go to with at least 50% scholarship. It the student does not choose to study a degree that can make money to pay off the loan, that decision making is questionable.
The female lawyer in my post. She went to a private college that gave her scholarship. While studying at school, she was making 6 K+ a month during summer internship. She won't own too much if she owed anything at all. Her brother is the same, but he chose to study a useless major. Then he saw his girlfriend and other people who studying computer science getting good job offers so he decided to take out a student loan to get a master degree in CS. He got a job offer one year before graduation. He did so because he knew he can pay off the loan easily by then. The irony is that he initially entered a prestige university to study CS to begin with but he switched major. I was also debt free when I graduated.
I know my regular family and friend circle is not the norm but you certainly can aim higher to avoid some financial issues[/QUOTE]I am aiming for a girl with smarts and skills and mentality that will not only make her life better but also her partner's but those kind of girls get scooped up fast and also have a long line of guys out the door as well so easier said than done.
It's like a girl trying to find one of the forum members to settle down and not mess around.
Sounds simple but rather difficult.
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[QUOTE=Bearsi;2855362]I am aiming for a girl with smarts and skills and mentality that will not only make her life better but also her partner's but those kind of girls get scooped up fast and also have a long line of guys out the door as well so easier said than done.[/QUOTE]Not at all. I have plenty of exes and friends with university degrees that fit this bill that have been single for years.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2855491]Not at all. I have plenty of exes and friends with university degrees that fit this bill that have been single for years.[/QUOTE]Ah yes.
I know who you are talking about.
It's usually high maintenance girls that look down on any man making less than her but if a guy makes more money than her she still wants total control and not be looked down on even though she would. These girls are so far up their own world that they don't understand men don't care how much money a girl makes.
Also there are the girls who don't want a BF or husband and like being alone.
More power to them.
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Mas Que Nada...revisited
Thought I'd circle back, FWIW, to the fav Brazilian iconic songs and "Mas Que Nada" convo, just for a brief second, [i]to include[/i], the unforgettable version by the trio called, [b]Nossa[/b], due in part to their very sexy dance music video rendition.
[b]Nossa - Mas Que Nada: [/b][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p7ToiJ5Q9o[/URL] (Filmed in Portugal, but definitely has some Salvador, Bahia vibes)
IMHO they are three (3) hotties, that represent (to a certain degree) the type of Brazilian women (although French) that you come to think about when dancing and listening to this iconic song.
Definitely for me, the black girl is certainly the hottest of the three and totally representative of hot black Brazilian women...NOSSA!
Viva Brazil!
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[QUOTE=Bearsi;2855546]I know who you are talking about.
It's usually high maintenance girls that look down on any man making less than her but if a guy makes more money than her she still wants total control and not be looked down on even though she would. These girls are so far up their own world that they don't understand men don't care how much money a girl makes.
Also there are the girls who don't want a BF or husband and like being alone.
More power to them.[/QUOTE]No the people I am talking about are normal down to earth women.
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[QUOTE=Bearsi;2854140]Looks like a nice resort for sure. The plan is get a SP girl to come with me to Rio, take her here for the first day then go to Buzio for 2 days and send her back home. As a new born carioca, I've seen the affect rio does to SP girls and it's so worth it.
I'll post my experience once I finish my trip and see how it goes.[/QUOTE]The problem remains with Security. The host has little or no control over them.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2855588]No the people I am talking about are normal down to earth women.[/QUOTE]That sounds like an oxymoron LOL.
But in all seriousness some gals like I mentioned don't want a partner and like the freedom of being single.
Some also have terrible personalities.
Some are 30+ and are competing with 20 somethings.
The list goes on.
A single woman in this day and age is definitely the sign of something off because a girl can fill up her calendar in under an hour.
Might not be the best of the best but it can be done.
The power of numbers really beats everything.
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Brazil never stops to surprise. A couple was caught having oral sex in line at a butcher's shop, in a supermarket. "Provando a linguiça".
[URL]https://odia.ig.com.br/brasil/2023/09/6715833-casal-e-flagrado-por-camera-de-seguranca-fazendo-sexo-oral-em-acougue.html[/URL]
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Need Advice on what to do
Any recommendations for best latin American countries to go to p4 p for a complete travel newbie? I'm 22 and soon will be planning a trip abroad (hopefully next summer) to visit a Latin American country to p4 p and be able to lose my virginity. The problem is I don't really have any experience at all with traveling abroad. I've never traveled solo by myself to a foreign country before and have only traveled out of the country once to China when I was 16 but that was a school trip. Does anyone have any recommendations on where I can go to that would be great for a travel newbie like me? I think Colombia and Brazil might be out automatically cause I've heard they can be somewhat hard to navigate. I know a lot of people recommend Thailand but unfortunately I'm not attracted to Asian women and also really like thick women so wondering what options I have. One place I do want to go to is sosua but I'm not sure how newbie friendly it is.
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Costa Rica
[QUOTE=VloneCarti;2864158]Any recommendations for best latin American countries to go to p4 p for a complete travel newbie? I'm 22 and soon will be planning a trip abroad (hopefully next summer) to visit a Latin American country to p4 p and be able to lose my virginity. The problem is I don't really have any experience at all with traveling abroad. I've never traveled solo by myself to a foreign country before and have only traveled out of the country once to China when I was 16 but that was a school trip. Does anyone have any recommendations on where I can go to that would be great for a travel newbie like me? I think Colombia and Brazil might be out automatically cause I've heard they can be somewhat hard to navigate. I know a lot of people recommend Thailand but unfortunately I'm not attracted to Asian women and also really like thick women so wondering what options I have. One place I do want to go to is sosua but I'm not sure how newbie friendly it is.[/QUOTE]Consider it. San Jose and Jaco. Easy to get to. Super newbie friendly. I mean it's like spearing fish in a barrel. Point and click and fuck another hottie! Costa Rica. It's converted many a man into a monger. And from there, you can go on to bigger and better things young man. Costa Rica. A finishing school for mongers! Yes sir it is.
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Sounds Good!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2864174]Consider it. San Jose and Jaco. Easy to get to. Super newbie friendly. I mean it's like spearing fish in a barrel. Point and click and fuck another hottie! Costa Rica. It's converted many a man into a monger. And from there, you can go on to bigger and better things young man. Costa Rica. A finishing school for mongers! Yes sir it is.[/QUOTE]Awesome thanks for the recommendation. I've been doing a little research into San Jose. Been hearing a lot about Sportsmens Lodge and Hotel Taormina. Yes I can't wait to start my monger journey have just been having trouble deciding where to start first haha.
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What is the status of the proposed visa for Americans? Is there a firm date for the visa fee to be imposed?
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This is what I found on Brasilian Consulate Website
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2865107]What is the status of the proposed visa for Americans? Is there a firm date for the visa fee to be imposed?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-miami/information-about-visas-in-english/vistor-visa-vivis[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Mangera;2865559][URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-miami/information-about-visas-in-english/vistor-visa-vivis[/URL][/QUOTE]January 10 is the target date. No idea if it will stick.
"Additional information will be announced in due course. ".
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Visa
In case anyone is interested. I emailed the consulate of Brazil here in L. A. I asked if I have a visa from before with an expiration date of 2026, will it still be good next year when the new visa rules go into effect. The answer was she believed the visa will still be good but to contact the consulate again in January in case something changes. I will contact again in January unless we find out something earlier.
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Thanks!
[QUOTE=QuackUp;2866566]In case anyone is interested. I emailed the consulate of Brazil here in L. A. I asked if I have a visa from before with an expiration date of 2026, will it still be good next year when the new visa rules go into effect. The answer was she believed the visa will still be good but to contact the consulate again in January in case something changes. I will contact again in January unless we find out something earlier.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this valuable confirmation, as it's what I've heard as well. I guess we'll see in January!
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Brazil Visa
[QUOTE=QuackUp;2866566]In case anyone is interested. I emailed the consulate of Brazil here in L. A. I asked if I have a visa from before with an expiration date of 2026, will it still be good next year when the new visa rules go into effect. The answer was she believed the visa will still be good but to contact the consulate again in January in case something changes. I will contact again in January unless we find out something earlier.[/QUOTE]I'm definitely interested. I have an existing visa that doesn't expire until late October 2026. I went to the consulate in NYC to get it and paid over $100 for it. I certainly hope they honor it for the full 10 year term. I hope to return to Brazil in the latter part of January 2024 and intend to use this visa to enter.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2864174]Consider it. San Jose and Jaco. Easy to get to. Super newbie friendly. I mean it's like spearing fish in a barrel. Point and click and fuck another hottie! Costa Rica. It's converted many a man into a monger. And from there, you can go on to bigger and better things young man. Costa Rica. A finishing school for mongers! Yes sir it is.[/QUOTE]How does Costa Rica compare today to 15 years ago when HDR was busy. That's how long it's been for me.
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New Costa Rica
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2866627]How does Costa Rica compare today to 15 years ago when HDR was busy. That's how long it's been for me.[/QUOTE]The Taormina Hotel has replaced the Hotel del Rey as ground zero for fucking in San Jose. In addition the beach town of Jaco, which wasn't a "thing" when I started going, is a must-do destination for mongering in Costa Rica. There are several hotels, bars, nightclubs and so forth there, with the Cocal Hotel being at the center of the action. So, Costa Rica definitely holds onto its "permanent monger member nation" status. Interested mongers should read the appropriate threads to obtain more detailed intel.
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Miami Consulate Brazil - eVISA
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2865107]What is the status of the proposed visa for Americans? Is there a firm date for the visa fee to be imposed?[/QUOTE]Miami.
[URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-miami/information-about-visas-in-english/electronic-visitor-visa-e-visa[/URL]
As of December 1st 2023,the platform will be up and running. The application process is done completely online and for such no facilitation is required by any intermediaries.
[URL]https://brazil.vfsevisa.com/[/URL]
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EVisa bank statements. What could possibly go wrong?
So we're supposed upload 30 days worth of bank statements for our eVisa? Not like that's a security risk or anything. I'm sure everything will be ok.
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[QUOTE=CatBert55;2874656]So we're supposed upload 30 days worth of bank statements for our eVisa? Not like that's a security risk or anything. I'm sure everything will be ok.[/QUOTE]How is it a security risk for someone to see who you have paid? My statements are very short because I put everything on Amex the whole month and just pay it off at the end. Only thing I use a bank account for is to pay utilities, paypal credit, amazon credit, and amex. So my shit is only like half a page.
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[QUOTE=UniversalX;2874568]Miami.
[URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-miami/information-about-visas-in-english/electronic-visitor-visa-e-visa[/URL]
As of December 1st 2023,the platform will be up and running. The application process is done completely online and for such no facilitation is required by any intermediaries.
[URL]https://brazil.vfsevisa.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]This visa is a joke. If I can afford to fly to Brazil I have enough money to sustain myself and am not homeless. Showing my bank account is a joke. Reason why Brazil will always be third world.
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[QUOTE=UniversalX;2874568]Miami.
[URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-miami/information-about-visas-in-english/electronic-visitor-visa-e-visa[/URL]
As of December 1st 2023,the platform will be up and running. The application process is done completely online and for such no facilitation is required by any intermediaries.
[URL]https://brazil.vfsevisa.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]This visa is a joke. If I can afford to fly to Brazil I have enough money to sustain myself and am not homeless. Showing my bank account is a joke. Reason why Brazil will always be third world.
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Mr E
[QUOTE=Buffer;2866594]I'm definitely interested. I have an existing visa that doesn't expire until late October 2026. I went to the consulate in NYC to get it and paid over $100 for it. I certainly hope they honor it for the full 10 year term. I hope to return to Brazil in the latter part of January 2024 and intend to use this visa to enter.[/QUOTE]The link Mr E posted says physical visas still good.
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Thanks
[QUOTE=UniversalX;2874568]Miami.
[URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-miami/information-about-visas-in-english/electronic-visitor-visa-e-visa[/URL]
As of December 1st 2023,the platform will be up and running. The application process is done completely online and for such no facilitation is required by any intermediaries.
[URL]https://brazil.vfsevisa.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for posting the link. It confirms that if you have a valid physical visa in passport, you do not need to apply for the e-visa.
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I agree.
Broadly, on the topic of Brazilians being a joke and will always be a third world country. Most recently, I think this because it is so difficult to get fast internet in Brazil.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2874697]This visa is a joke. If I can afford to fly to Brazil I have enough money to sustain myself and am not homeless. Showing my bank account is a joke. Reason why Brazil will always be third world.[/QUOTE]
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Justification
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2874701]This visa is a joke. If I can afford to fly to Brazil I have enough money to sustain myself and am not homeless. Showing my bank account is a joke. Reason why Brazil will always be third world.[/QUOTE]They justify it by saying they're acting in a reciprocal way. The United States requires Brazilians to do all this stuff to get a visa. So now Brazil has requirements for Americans to enter Brazil. If we didn't require a visa for Brazilians, then based on reciprocity Brazil wouldn't require a visa for Americans. This is their reasoning.
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They never asked for our bank statements before. You paid 100 bucks and it was good for ten years. Go back to that if they must. I don't want my banking info floating around those corrupt government workers. They might sell our info.
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Yep. Spot on.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2875116]They never asked for our bank statements before. You paid 100 bucks and it was good for ten years. Go back to that if they must. I don't want my banking info floating around those corrupt government workers. They might sell our info.[/QUOTE]
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Visa Problems
Thank god I'm European and have no visa problems when travelling to Brazil.
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2875116]They never asked for our bank statements before.[/QUOTE]Actually they did.
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Anyone have experience with starlink in Brazil?
Looks like 2000 r for the equipment, and 280 r / month for the service.
Thoughts?
Elon musk is like the uber monger, the [URL]x.com[/URL] monger, the dude who could like land a starship on praia abrico and take off with girls for Texas and / or California for the new triangular trade.
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Starlink in Brazil?
Anyone have experience with starlink in Brazil?
Looks like 2000 r for the equipment, and 280 r / month for the service.
Thoughts?
Elon musk is like the uber monger, the [URL]x.com[/URL] monger, the dude who could like land a starship on praia abrico and take off with girls for Texas and / or California for the new triangular trade.
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When?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2875342]Actually they did.[/QUOTE]I hope I'm not losing my mind but I don't remember being asked for any bank statements last time I applied in 2016. Nor when I applied twice before back in 2000's.
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2874701]This visa is a joke. If I can afford to fly to Brazil I have enough money to sustain myself and am not homeless. Showing my bank account is a joke. Reason why Brazil will always be third world.[/QUOTE]The Miami Consulate Rep. Also indicated in that your Bank Statement must show that you have a Minimum of $2000.00 USD in the Checking account prior to application submission within the last 30 days.
[I] (so, if you submit your application today your bank statement must have at least a Minimum of $2000.00 USD checking balance available within in the last 30 days.) [/I]
Some banks lag behind on producing timely statements so you may have to get your bank to prepare a statement certifying your bank balances especially if your statements are outside of the normal statement generation time.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2875342]Actually they did.[/QUOTE]I never sent a bank statement in my life. I mailed my passport to the closest place to me and 100 dollars. It was good to ten years. That visa has since expired, so any bank statements are fairly new not 2002 to 2012. BTW is this visa good for ten years.
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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2874759]I agree.
Broadly, on the topic of Brazilians being a joke and will always be a third world country. Most recently, I think this because it is so difficult to get fast internet in Brazil.[/QUOTE]I remember when the real became strong. 2 to 1 and eventually 1. 6 to 1. I was talking to this European and he said the good times are over. Brazil is now like London. I laughed. I said, don't you worry, they will figure out some way to screw up their economy and country and the real will crash again. I was right. They will always be a third world country, which is good for us since we can live like kings. This reciprocal thing is dumb, since they need our money more than the USA Needs theirs. As a matters of fact, They need all the richest countries to spend their money there. Forget this visa BS. Make Somalia get a visa not us.
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2876080]This reciprocal thing is dumb, since they need our money more than the USA Needs theirs.[/QUOTE]IMO I applause Brazil for having reciprocal rules, no matter what country.
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Rio
My kind of town (and Tony's too)!
[URL]https://youtu.be/duIIwfKZwBI?si=94-3_IkVmSJs_OO7[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2874701]This visa is a joke. Reason why Brazil will always be third world.[/QUOTE]Pretty much all countries are third world countries. Pretty much all countries will always be third world countries. What countries have gone from third world to not in the last 50 years? Maybe Singapore. What separates us from the rest of the world is credit. People in most countries have to pay cash to go to school, cash to build that house, cash to go on that holiday. All we have to do is sign on the line and pay later.
I am at my girlfriend's house in Recife. She wants me to take her out of the country. I told her that I do not have money for that. She told me to use that international card that I have. I said what is an international card? She was talking about my American Express that I use everywhere. She thinks I can just use it and take 12 months to pay. I said that has to be paid off every month. I do not put anything on it that I am not able to immediately pay. They think it is that easy. Yeah it may be easy to swipe, but it will not be easy to pay if you let your eyes overload your ass.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2876249]Pretty much all countries are third world countries. Pretty much all countries will always be third world countries. What countries have gone from third world to not in the last 50 years? Maybe Singapore. What separates us from the rest of the world is credit. People in most countries have to pay cash to go to school, cash to build that house, cash to go on that holiday. All we have to do is sign on the line and pay later.
I am at my girlfriend's house in Recife. She wants me to take her out of the country. I told her that I do not have money for that. She told me to use that international card that I have. I said what is an international card? She was talking about my American Express that I use everywhere. She thinks I can just use it and take 12 months to pay. I said that has to be paid off every month. I do not put anything on it that I am not able to immediately pay. They think it is that easy. Yeah it may be easy to swipe, but it will not be easy to pay if you let your eyes overload your ass.[/QUOTE]Many American Express cards offer Pay Over Time. I know mine does. I pay my balance off each month, but I don't have to if I don't want to:
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/advisor/credit-cards/american-express-pay-over-time/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2876198]My kind of town (and Tony's too)!
[URL]https://youtu.be/duIIwfKZwBI?si=94-3_IkVmSJs_OO7[/URL][/QUOTE]Some damn good ole memories, especially the last food segment. RIP A.B.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2876249]Pretty much all countries are third world countries. Pretty much all countries will always be third world countries. What countries have gone from third world to not in the last 50 years? Maybe Singapore. What separates us from the rest of the world is credit. People in most countries have to pay cash to go to school, cash to build that house, cash to go on that holiday. All we have to do is sign on the line and pay later.
I am at my girlfriend's house in Recife. She wants me to take her out of the country. I told her that I do not have money for that. She told me to use that international card that I have. I said what is an international card? She was talking about my American Express that I use everywhere. She thinks I can just use it and take 12 months to pay. I said that has to be paid off every month. I do not put anything on it that I am not able to immediately pay. They think it is that easy. Yeah it may be easy to swipe, but it will not be easy to pay if you let your eyes overload your ass.[/QUOTE]She doesn't understand it because she doesn't understand what the card represents. You're right. Its access to credit. Most importantly affordable credit. Although with credit card unpaid balance rates being what they are, not that affordable. Personally haven't used one for years. In these days of easy management & transferability of money, they're really the province of the poor. If you need that sort of credit you can't afford it.
Which is really the story of these countries. You're wrong. Of course they have credit. But ask your girlfriend how much it would cost her to borrow 1000 Rls for a week. She'd probably be paying 10% with alarming personal consequences for late payment or default. It's not credit they lack, it's trust. We live in high trust societies. We can be confident that any agreement we enter into will be honoured by the other parties. We have legal systems that enforce this. That is what they lack. The confidence that other people will perform what they promise. And that has a cost.
It's the difference from where I come from. London UK. Although the same would be true in Germany, Holland, Belgium, the Nordics. I could be reasonably confident that what I was promised would transpire. Dictum meum pactum. My word is my bond. Where I live now, Spain, not nearly so much. It's not in the culture. You're never quite sure whether results will meet expectations. That makes for lower economic efficiency. So Spain, by its own efforts, will never be as wealthy as the north & why until recently it was poor. The Spanish have / had to learn to be trustworthy. For Brasil, multiply that tenfold.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2876288]Many American Express cards offer Pay Over Time. I know mine does. I pay my balance off each month, but I don't have to if I don't want to:
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/advisor/credit-cards/american-express-pay-over-time/[/URL][/QUOTE]Mine too, but I am not a paying interest kind of guy. By paying no interest and collecting points, I actually make money by using the card.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2876249]Pretty much all countries are third world countries. Pretty much all countries will always be third world countries. What countries have gone from third world to not in the last 50 years? Maybe Singapore. What separates us from the rest of the world is credit. People in most countries have to pay cash to go to school, cash to build that house, cash to go on that holiday. All we have to do is sign on the line and pay later.
I am at my girlfriend's house in Recife. She wants me to take her out of the country. I told her that I do not have money for that. She told me to use that international card that I have. I said what is an international card? She was talking about my American Express that I use everywhere. She thinks I can just use it and take 12 months to pay. I said that has to be paid off every month. I do not put anything on it that I am not able to immediately pay. They think it is that easy. Yeah it may be easy to swipe, but it will not be easy to pay if you let your eyes overload your ass.[/QUOTE]Why is there no credit to buy a house.
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RJ info
I am reading information on potential countries to visit. Two friends and I just returned from Thailand, Bangkok and Pattaya. I suppose Asian girls aren't so much a thing for any of us. Money went a long way, but we did it and don't want to do it again. 36 hours of travel to and from Thailand combined with time differences proves painful.
One of my friends is extremely fond of anal sex and someone mentioned Brazil is the place to visit. After reading the forum many things made sense, but some still presented questions. Many use the term "prive" in the forum. Is that similar to a massage parlor? I know members indicated you go there, view the potential selections, select one, and then complete the deed. Also, is it accurate to say there are very few girl friendly locations to rent, hotels or airbnb? It seems many discuss not being able to take a girl back to the hotel / airbnb. That would make getting escorts difficult, would it not? I have a basic understanding of the Termas.
We are familiar with the theme of going to clubs and finding "semi-pros" as many girls do this in other countries; however, we are past the age we want to hear blaring music.
I appreciate all the warnings on avoiding he street girls due to set ups and muggings as well as avoiding Vila Mimosa. My friend is rather cheap and likely would have visited there.
On the board, several members discussed how San Paolo wasn't worth the extra expense. Apparently the hobby costs more there.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2876360]Mine too, but I am not a paying interest kind of guy. By paying no interest and collecting points, I actually make money by using the card.[/QUOTE]Hear, hear! America is a home of free, moneymaking short-term loans if you play your cards right (pun intended).
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[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2876568]I am reading information on potential countries to visit. Two friends and I just returned from Thailand, Bangkok and Pattaya. I suppose Asian girls aren't so much a thing for any of us. Money went a long way, but we did it and don't want to do it again. 36 hours of travel to and from Thailand combined with time differences proves painful.
One of my friends is extremely fond of anal sex and someone mentioned Brazil is the place to visit. After reading the forum many things made sense, but some still presented questions. Many use the term "prive" in the forum. Is that similar to a massage parlor? I know members indicated you go there, view the potential selections, select one, and then complete the deed. Also, is it accurate to say there are very few girl friendly locations to rent, hotels or airbnb? It seems many discuss not being able to take a girl back to the hotel / airbnb. That would make getting escorts difficult, would it not? I have a basic understanding of the Termas.
We are familiar with the theme of going to clubs and finding "semi-pros" as many girls do this in other countries; however, we are past the age we want to hear blaring music.
I appreciate all the warnings on avoiding he street girls due to set ups and muggings as well as avoiding Vila Mimosa. My friend is rather cheap and likely would have visited there.
On the board, several members discussed how San Paolo wasn't worth the extra expense. Apparently the hobby costs more there.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]1. Your "friend" would do well in Rio and Brazil in general, LOL. Anal sex is cheap and plentiful.
2. You correctly understand the concept of prives.
3. It is possible to bring girls back to hotels and airbnbs. Just do your research.
4. Vila Mimosa is not dangerous, it's simply unpleasant. Besides, the prices, minute by minute, are not that much lower than in other venues.
5. I would argue that Sao Paulo is worth the extra expense if you're after those elusive 9's and 10's, but Rio has a lot more joys to offer in addition to carnal pleasure.
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2876541]Why is there no credit to buy a house.[/QUOTE]There is. But first you have to qualify for the loan. You think most people in 3rd world countries are able to do that? Trippy article in Thailand that I was reading the other day about a guy going to loansharks. Even the cops told him to go on the run.
"In just eight months since August 2023, he has had 37 creditors and was able to pay off eight, leaving him with 29. He has already paid over 3 million baht in interest.
Chai confessed that he has exhausted all sources of borrowing, including friends, relatives, and even his children. He has had to flee his creditors three times after they threatened to kill him and surrounded his company. Local police advised him to relocate as the group of creditors was influential, had numerous associates, and did not fear local law enforcement. ".
[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1313844-loan-sharks-circle-in-65-year-old-business-owner-seeks-refuge-in-chon-buri/#comment-18540944[/URL]
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This is so well said that it is almost poetry. It is why this member has the most posts of any member. Those who are trying to be hunter biden s living beyond your means should take this post to heart. This belongs in reports of distinction just for the financial wisdom.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2876249]Pretty much all countries are third world countries. Pretty much all countries will always be third world countries. What countries have gone from third world to not in the last 50 years? Maybe Singapore. What separates us from the rest of the world is credit. People in most countries have to pay cash to go to school, cash to build that house, cash to go on that holiday. All we have to do is sign on the line and pay later.
I am at my girlfriend's house in Recife. She wants me to take her out of the country. I told her that I do not have money for that. She told me to use that international card that I have. I said what is an international card? She was talking about my American Express that I use everywhere. She thinks I can just use it and take 12 months to pay. I said that has to be paid off every month. I do not put anything on it that I am not able to immediately pay. They think it is that easy. Yeah it may be easy to swipe, but it will not be easy to pay if you let your eyes overload your ass.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2876583]1. Your "friend" would do well in Rio and Brazil in general, LOL. Anal sex is cheap and plentiful.
2. You correctly understand the concept of prives.
3. It is possible to bring girls back to hotels and airbnbs. Just do your research.
4. Vila Mimosa is not dangerous, it's simply unpleasant. Besides, the prices, minute by minute, are not that much lower than in other venues.
5. I would argue that Sao Paulo is worth the extra expense if you're after those elusive 9's and 10's, but Rio has a lot more joys to offer in addition to carnal pleasure.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. In this case the "friend" is really a friend, LOL. The only issue I see for us in Rio is that we all like the thinner women. In videos posted at night on youtube, it appears as though the majority are on the larger side of sizing.
At my age, I like doing things other than partaking in carnal pleasures. In Thailand we visited shrines, even a huge wooden one. I also visited the botanical gardens in Pattaya. The fireworks were good there as well, but we just happened to be there during the international fireworks festival. Half a million people on Pattaya beach. I do enjoy beaches, particularly those with good sand and attractive women. With the non-carnal things in mind, it seems Rio offers more choices.
I am looking on airbnb and looking for guest friendly places. Thank you for your help.
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Cidade Maravilhoso...é meu cidade também
[QUOTE=The Cane;2876198]My kind of town (and Tony's too)!
[URL]https://youtu.be/duIIwfKZwBI?si=94-3_IkVmSJs_OO7[/URL][/QUOTE]
That was a good episode on Carioca food and culture...THANKS!
Glad to see they're allowing beach barracas, to cook food on the beach again (if true). Those were some of my fav. memories of life on Brazilian beaches, especially in Rio, Recife, Manaus and Fortaleza. Dining at the beach with an awesome seafood platter (or a large peixe frita) with a healthy scoop of batata fritas, salada and a cold cerveja, was sublime. All the while checking out the dental-floss bikini clad girls and their fantastic bronze bodies. Man, for me, those were cool days, on Rio Beaches, especially days other than the sometimes all too busy Sunday or holiday days at the beach.
But who can forget those, Sunday evenings along Copa, sitting, eating and drinking, at one of those beach front restaurants (Av. Atlantica), that would offer a Pedaos Rodizio (sp??) "small all-you-can-eat food/pizza" (R$25-35) style menus, for Sunday evenings only, was something to behold.
Naturally, finishing off the evening, by walking off the food, with a nice (15-25-min) stroll up or down Av. Atlantica, watching the street vendors/hustlers and kids playing, on your way to "Helpee" to checkout the talent. Now those were some memorable Sunday evenings.
PS: Although, Feijoada is the national dish, I never have been a big fan of the dish. [URL]https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/feijoada[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2876695]There is. But first you have to qualify for the loan. You think most people in 3rd world countries are able to do that? ...[/QUOTE]Their interest rate is way too high even if one is approved.
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New Electronic Visa Requirement
In researching this there are a couple of things I did not like:
You are restricted to 90 days in country per year instead of the current 180.
The list of documents required includes, photos, passport, bank account, proof of income etc.
It is still tied to your passport. So if your passport expires in one year the Brazil visa expires in one year and you have to reapply.
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[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2877233]In researching this there are a couple of things I did not like:
You are restricted to 90 days in country per year instead of the current 180.
The list of documents required includes, photos, passport, bank account, proof of income etc.
It is still tied to your passport. So if your passport expires in one year the Brazil visa expires in one year and you have to reapply.[/QUOTE]People have been debating this bank statement issue, so I went to the official website concerning the Visa applications. Number six talks about the bank statement for the last 30 days showing a balance of at least $2000. That's not a significant amount for travel in a foreign country, but I don't want the Brazilian government in my financial affairs. Oh well, back to the drawing board to find another country.
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[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2877233]In researching this there are a couple of things I did not like:
You are restricted to 90 days in country per year instead of the current 180.
It is still tied to your passport. So if your passport expires in one year the Brazil visa expires in one year and you have to reapply.[/QUOTE]Where did you see that? Traditionally it has been that you are able to be in the country 180 days per year, but only allowed up to 90 days for each stay. It has usually been that if your passport with the visa expires, then you just travel with your new passport and the old with the visa in it.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2877508]Where did you see that? Traditionally it has been that you are able to be in the country 180 days per year, but only allowed up to 90 days for each stay. It has usually been that if your passport with the visa expires, then you just travel with your new passport and the old with the visa in it.[/QUOTE]And I have yet to see anything to contradict what you have said here.
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[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2877422]Number six talks about the bank statement for the last 30 days showing a balance of at least $2000. That's not a significant amount for travel in a foreign country, but I don't want the Brazilian government in my financial affairs. Oh well, back to the drawing board to find another country.[/QUOTE]I'll go one step further. What happens to this data? I'm no conspiracy theorist. But I'm not a fan of publicizing bank statements and balances. I don't argue it's a legitimate ask for Brazil. But if those get in the wrong hands, that makes a pretty nice hitlist. Talk about making extortion of a foreigner easy. On one hand, that sounds far fetched. But that's putting alot of blind faith in data security.
I, for one, am seriously thinking of passing on Brazil based on this requirement. Very disappointing. But I also don't blame them due to the lack of reciprocity.
Forgive the slight deviation to politics. But how sad is it that the US puts visitors through the ringer yet allows other migration unabated.
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[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2877710]I'll go one step further. What happens to this data? I'm no conspiracy theorist. But I'm not a fan of publicizing bank statements and balances. I don't argue it's a legitimate ask for Brazil. But if those get in the wrong hands, that makes a pretty nice hitlist. Talk about making extortion of a foreigner easy. On one hand, that sounds far fetched. [/QUOTE]Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.
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Bank Statements
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2877736]Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.[/QUOTE]I have multiple bank accounts. One holds my "travel fund". That's the one I will use when the time comes for me to apply for the visa. It doesn't show a lot of movement in and out, but rather a pretty steady holding to moderately growing balance over time with plenty of money in there to meet their requirements. That will be good enough, and not concerned about extortion and blackmail and all that stuff. Like you say that's pretty far-fetched.
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Still, BRIICS+ are not on the side of countries that are funding and sending weapons to whack russkis. And soon?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2877736]Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2877736]Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what you find far fetched. Is it common? No. But are you saying it's far fetched that a cartel in Mexico couldn't pay someone in Migration pennies to divert information? (I know we're talking Brazil but I think it's almost same scenario) I'm not thinking only about account activity but more about account balances. Addresses. I suppose we can limit what is shown, at least to an extent. But that's a hassle, especially when I'm already paying them $80. Am I overboard? Maybe. But I don't think it's far fetched to say this can be exploited. Especially when you consider gringo mongers are already targeted. But, as I've said before, we all have our own risk profiles. Many would say things I've done or areas I frequent is foolish. So to each their own.
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[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2877422]People have been debating this bank statement issue, so I went to the official website concerning the Visa applications. Number six talks about the bank statement for the last 30 days showing a balance of at least $2000. That's not a significant amount for travel in a foreign country, but I don't want the Brazilian government in my financial affairs. Oh well, back to the drawing board to find another country.[/QUOTE]It says printed copy of bank statement showing $2,000 for travel. What will they check it when you enter Brazil at passport control? Shit I'll have more than that in my pocket, should I show them the cash? My business class ticket costs more than that, what am I going to Rio to live on the streets, how stupid.
It’s still all not that bad, I remember in the 80’s they only gave out visas good for 90 days so several times a year you had to go to the Brazilian consulate in New York with a money order and get a new visa what a pain this was but it was worth it lol. So the requirements now are nothing and if I have to show some passport clerk my balance it’s a non issue. Past couple of years was great with no visa needed then they had 10 year visas and now getting an electronic one again is no big deal. This is because of Lula, they need money I guess maybe he can open up Help again.
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Joao Gilberto
Brazilian musical pioneer passes:
[URL]https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/joao-gilberto-bossa-nova-pioneer-obituary-856164/amp/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2877233]In researching this there are a couple of things I did not like:
You are restricted to 90 days in country per year instead of the current 180.
The list of documents required includes, photos, passport, bank account, proof of income etc.
It is still tied to your passport. So if your passport expires in one year the Brazil visa expires in one year and you have to reapply.[/QUOTE]I'm a trader now, how do I show proof of income. Do I need to give them my 1040. I don't get it. This is ridiculous. Is the visa at least good for 10 years like before?
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[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2877422]People have been debating this bank statement issue, so I went to the official website concerning the Visa applications. Number six talks about the bank statement for the last 30 days showing a balance of at least $2000. That's not a significant amount for travel in a foreign country, but I don't want the Brazilian government in my financial affairs. Oh well, back to the drawing board to find another country.[/QUOTE]I read the 6 things from your link and it doesn't say proof of income. Just proof of 2 k. I hope that's the case.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2877736]Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.[/QUOTE]Mr E, you are being pretty naive. It's the possibility that you can be extorted for anything. They know your name and banking info. If you are cheating on your wife they can call her. Didn't a guy in Colombia just get murdered over a measly 2 k. I would rather them not have my banking info on file. Let me show them the 2 k on my phone when I arrive.
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You can set up a wise account and add 2 K in there for a Charles Schwab account and just add 2 K in there.
[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2877422]People have been debating this bank statement issue, so I went to the official website concerning the Visa applications. Number six talks about the bank statement for the last 30 days showing a balance of at least $2000. That's not a significant amount for travel in a foreign country, but I don't want the Brazilian government in my financial affairs. Oh well, back to the drawing board to find another country.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2878143]I'm not sure what you find far fetched. Is it common? No. But are you saying it's far fetched that a cartel in Mexico couldn't pay someone in Migration pennies to divert information? (I know we're talking Brazil but I think it's almost same scenario) I'm not thinking only about account activity but more about account balances. Addresses..[/QUOTE]I am saying that if you have ever been to Brazil, they already have your name, address, passport number, picture. But you guys are in an uproar because you also have to show them that you paid your light bill last week. If they have not already gotten you from the info they already have then they most certainly are not coming to kidnap you because they now know that you paid some bills.
It is the same as people being in an uproar because someone is taking their picture to get on the plane or back into the country. 10,000 other cameras in the airport that have already seen you and they already have the picture from your passport, yet because someone takes an active picture at this moment, you think you are doomed.
Funny thing is that when you put your ATM card in the machine in Brazil, the receipt comes back with the money you have in your account. Nobody is in an uproar that the bank in Brazil has that information and the cartel in Mexico could pay someone at the bank pennies to divert information. If they are going to get you then they are going to get you, and it won't be on the basis that you sent a piece of paper to the Brazilian consulate. Nobody makes a stink when they buy a house or rent an apartment or buy a car and have to show the same information.
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2878989]Mr E, you are being pretty naive. It's the possibility that you can be extorted for anything. They know your name and banking info. If you are cheating on your wife they can call her. Didn't a guy in Colombia just get murdered over a measly 2 k. I would rather them not have my banking info on file. Let me show them the 2 k on my phone when I arrive.[/QUOTE]Tijuana, you are at the mercy of the Brazilian government when you are there. They can throw you in jail or kill you when you are there. The issue is why would they?
Mexico does the same thing with Colombians but it is not just official. They only want people coming in who can spend money.
If you are worried about Brazil, open up an account, put in 2 k, get into the country, and withdraw money from the account once you clear customs.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2879453]Tijuana, you are at the mercy of the Brazilian government when you are there. They can throw you in jail or kill you when you are there. The issue is why would they?
Mexico does the same thing with Colombians but it is not just official. They only want people coming in who can spend money.
If you are worried about Brazil, open up an account, put in 2 k, get into the country, and withdraw money from the account once you clear customs.[/QUOTE]I would rather show them my money when I get there. That's all I'm saying. Having a chick that makes 15 dollars a day that could be compromised doesn't sit well with me.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2879425]I am saying that if you have ever been to Brazil, they already have your name, [b]address[/b].....[/QUOTE]They can learn about simply by your address, zip code or city. They don't need bank statement to know if someone is wealthy or not.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2879661]They can learn about simply by your address, zip code or city. They don't need bank statement to know if someone is wealthy or not.[/QUOTE]Exactly. And the cartel is not going around kidnapping or extorting people they already know have money because they already see it is a fancy neighborhood, but people here think they will be kidnapped because they sent in a paper. Go figure.
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Regarding Airlines
I travel all over Brazil and buy a lot of domestic flights in Brazil. Mostly with Latam or GOL as they usually have the cheapest tickets. Sometimes their sites works really bad. Furthermore it's hard to manage to buy tickets showing the price in reais. When changing to another currency the price becomes way more expensive.
Today I chose to buy a ticket with Azul on a route where Azul was less than half the price of Latam. I was really impressed how smoothly the Azul site worked when buying a ticket in foreign currency. Also, the price in foreign currency didn't become more expensive that the price in reais.
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[QUOTE=Sperto;2879710]I travel all over Brazil and buy a lot of domestic flights in Brazil. Mostly with Latam or GOL as they usually have the cheapest tickets. Sometimes their sites works really bad. Furthermore it's hard to manage to buy tickets showing the price in reais. When changing to another currency the price becomes way more expensive.
Today I chose to buy a ticket with Azul on a route where Azul was less than half the price of Latam. I was really impressed how smoothly the Azul site worked when buying a ticket in foreign currency. Also, the price in foreign currency didn't become more expensive that the price in reais.[/QUOTE]Have you tried using a VPN? The Azul app on my phone is always in Portuguese and showing reais no matter where I am or whether my VPN is set to Brazil or not.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2879724]Have you tried using a VPN? The Azul app on my phone is always in Portuguese and showing reais no matter where I am or whether my VPN is set to Brazil or not.[/QUOTE]I've no problem showing the prices in reais. The problems I had were with the Latam and Gol sites. They didn't allow to buy a ticket one the brazilian site as a foreigner using a foreign credit card.
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I will be coming into Brazil for 2 months. Will I have to show proof of onward travel at Immigration?
I would prefer to decide my onward destination later on.
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Visa. Purpose
What is the reason for the visa beyond a passport? I've reviewed the website and application process. It appears to be basically the same information that is already on a passport. I'm not crazy about the bank statement thing either. Since it takes a substantial amount of money to fly to Brazil and stay for a vacation etc. , it makes very little sense to me. Obviously its a revenue generator is that it? The website says it takes 5 days to get the Evisa can someone confirm if that is accurate? Apparently you can't apply for the visa until you actually have the flight booked.
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[QUOTE=Markon;2879965]What is the reason for the visa beyond a passport? I've reviewed the website and application process.[/QUOTE]It is only that if a country makes their citizens do it, then they make the citizens of that country do it.
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[QUOTE=Markon;2879965]What is the reason for the visa beyond a passport?[/QUOTE]It's a FU to the USA because the USA requires Brazilians to get a visa. EU doesn't require Brazilians to get a visa so Brazil allows EU passport holders to travel to Brazil without a visa.
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[QUOTE=CatBert55;2880044]It's a FU to the USA because the USA requires Brazilians to get a visa. EU doesn't require Brazilians to get a visa so Brazil allows EU passport holders to travel to Brazil without a visa.[/QUOTE]It couldn't be more fair.
Viva Lula!
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2879882]I will be coming into Brazil for 2 months. Will I have to show proof of onward travel at Immigration?
I would prefer to decide my onward destination later on.[/QUOTE]No. You get 90 days.
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This Visa requirement has been there since forever. It only paused during the pandemic but other than that it's nothing new. It's not that bad. Cheaper than scandalo.
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[QUOTE=Sperto;2880046]It couldn't be more fair.
Viva Lula![/QUOTE]Just wait for your turn.
[URL]https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias_en[/URL]
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Anyone else notice how these low bandwidth monkeys steal from each other? It is the jungle.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2879425]I am saying that if you have ever been to Brazil, they already have your name, address, passport number, picture. But you guys are in an uproar because you also have to show them that you paid your light bill last week. If they have not already gotten you from the info they already have then they most certainly are not coming to kidnap you because they now know that you paid some bills.
It is the same as people being in an uproar because someone is taking their picture to get on the plane or back into the country. 10,000 other cameras in the airport that have already seen you and they already have the picture from your passport, yet because someone takes an active picture at this moment, you think you are doomed.
Funny thing is that when you put your ATM card in the machine in Brazil, the receipt comes back with the money you have in your account. Nobody is in an uproar that the bank in Brazil has that information and the cartel in Mexico could pay someone at the bank pennies to divert information. If they are going to get you then they are going to get you, and it won't be on the basis that you sent a piece of paper to the Brazilian consulate. Nobody makes a stink when they buy a house or rent an apartment or buy a car and have to show the same information.[/QUOTE]No one cares how much you pay for electricity. But if you think immigration employees are above corruption, a 2 second google search can show you what can happen. So what is the risk? At a minimum, you are handing over balances, account numbers and routing numbers. And the comparison to an ATM receipt is ludicrous. There is no employee handling that balance information. Nor does a Brazilian bank have that information or any of their employees.
I can only speak for myself. But the bank statement issue isn't about avoiding any trace of a trip to Brazil. Of course there is a record of that. Others have talked about addresses. I can tell you I don't submit my addresses. But someone suggested that address can indicate one's wealth. In the end, it comes down to how much you want to hand over. Handing my financial information, with names, addresses, account numbers, balances, etc. , is a step too far for me. As I said, the level of corruption should not be a surprise to any seasoned traveler.
Am I overly cautious? Perhaps. But I'm not a guy that sits in my hotel room to avoid the next moto-bandit holding me a knife point. So I don't feel I'm being crazy here. But I'm not interested in turning over a fair amount of personal info to people that can be easily bought and paid for. (And historically have been bought and paid for) I do think the suggestion of an extra account is reasonable. Maybe I'm just lazy but if Brazil wants to make me jump through hoops like that, there are many other countries that will gladly take my $2,000+ without the hassle.
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[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2881205]No one cares how much you pay for electricity. But if you think immigration employees are above corruption, a 2 second google search can show you what can happen. [/QUOTE]I see why you are worried. You do not even know who you are supposed to be sending it to.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2881242]I see why you are worried. You do not even know who you are supposed to be sending it to.[/QUOTE]Good to know someone that knows every intricacy and bureaucracy of Brazilian immigration. And be able to vouch for their scruples. Pardon me if I'm a little more skeptical with my own personal information. As I always say, to each their own. I'm not donating $80 to Lula for the honor of giving them my information that isn't needed. Send him your $80; I'll spend mine on 3 hours with a paisa.
For the record, I don't begrudge Brazil due to the lack of reciprocity. But I'm also unwilling to pay for the hassle and the risk.
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[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2881205]Am I overly cautious?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.travelersunited.org/a-cautionary-tale-of-brazils-new-e-visa-and-its-alarming-identity-theft-problem/[/URL]
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As long as you are a gringo, you will get robbed in Brazil. They do not discriminate on how big of your bank account or how small it is.
[QUOTE=UniversalX;2881358][URL]https://www.travelersunited.org/a-cautionary-tale-of-brazils-new-e-visa-and-its-alarming-identity-theft-problem/[/URL][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Fewdie;2881366]As long as you are a gringo, you will get robbed in Brazil. They do not discriminate on how big of your bank account or how small it is.[/QUOTE]I don't have a problem with Brazil using the visa as a money grab, but the fact I need to send them my bank info too because they think Americans are going there to become homeless is laughable. Homeless people get everything in America, first class healthcare in the ER, food stamps, food banks. I've been to Brazil so many times and only see Brazilian homeless, not American homeless. Unfortunately, I paid for my flight and hotel 6 months ago, so I don't think I can get a refund. Bottom line is this government proves time and time again how incompetent and dumb they are and always will be. Brazilians have to have a visa to come here because they are known for overstaying their visa like the Philippines. I guarantee they will see a drop in tourism with this and eventually get rid of some of these requirements.
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Here is a great article on different Brazilian scams.
[URL]https://oliveiralawyers.com/services/others/avoiding-scam-brazil/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2881300]Good to know someone that knows every intricacy and bureaucracy of Brazilian immigration. And be able to vouch for their scruples.[/QUOTE]It is the embassy or consulate, not immigration. They are forcing nobody to go, but I am sure they appreciate the grand announcements of why individuals are choosing not to. I am sure the country will miss those individuals.
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Paranoid
[QUOTE=UniversalX;2881358][URL]https://www.travelersunited.org/a-cautionary-tale-of-brazils-new-e-visa-and-its-alarming-identity-theft-problem/[/URL][/QUOTE]I really find the level of paranoia around this to be astounding. Go to Thailand then people. All you were going to do is contribute to "price creep" anyway.
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[QUOTE=UniversalX;2881358][URL]https://www.travelersunited.org/a-cautionary-tale-of-brazils-new-e-visa-and-its-alarming-identity-theft-problem/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. Highlights many of my concerns.
The lunacy of it all: what does Brazil gain by validating $2,000 "for travel"? There's no legitimate assurance they receive. Having $2,000 in an account at a point in time? Wtf does that mean? LOL The whole visa requirement is punitive. That's not to say it's not deserved retribution! But making me pay to jump through hoops and assuming the risk of someone making $200 USD a month being bribed is "far fetched"? No thanks.
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2881404]Here is a great article on different Brazilian scams.
[URL]https://oliveiralawyers.com/services/others/avoiding-scam-brazil/[/URL][/QUOTE]They wrote all that to say that? I could have said it in one line. Keep your money in your pocket and you will not be scammed.
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2881392]I don't have a problem with Brazil using the visa as a money grab, but the fact I need to send them my bank info too because they think Americans are going there to become homeless is laughable. Homeless people get everything in America, first class healthcare in the ER, food stamps, food banks. I've been to Brazil so many times and only see Brazilian homeless, not American homeless. Unfortunately, I paid for my flight and hotel 6 months ago, so I don't think I can get a refund. Bottom line is this government proves time and time again how incompetent and dumb they are and always will be. Brazilians have to have a visa to come here because they are known for overstaying their visa like the Philippines. I guarantee they will see a drop in tourism with this and eventually get rid of some of these requirements.[/QUOTE]Exactly! Why do they need to see $2,000? What purpose does it serve? Most people traveling from the US exceed that in airfare and lodging alone. A return flight confirmation makes perfect sense. But there is no real need for bank statements.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2881419]It is the embassy or consulate, not immigration. They are forcing nobody to go, but I am sure they appreciate the grand announcements of why individuals are choosing not to. I am sure the country will miss those individuals.[/QUOTE]What? The embassy? Which embassy? It's electronic. It goes to some Brazilian bureacracy. I dare say the Brazillian embassy in Miami or New York is not involved.
Do you really believe that those documents would not be available to the immigration officer that actually admits you into Brazil? It would be even more ludicrous if they didn't have access to it. The truth is neither you nor I know how many hands those documents will pass through. To think it goes into some data fort knox in an embassy somewhere is just naive.
I mean no offense to you. And I'm done with this issue. I, like many others, sadly, will take our money elsewhere. So if that helps reset a market, good for the mongers. Nor do I blame anyone for getting the visa. My intent was just to call attention to the risk. If someone doesn't believe there is a risk here, they are just uninformed.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2881444]I really find the level of paranoia around this to be astounding. Go to Thailand then people. All you were going to do is contribute to "price creep" anyway.[/QUOTE]I truly hope you are right. But consider that petty crime is a constant in Brazil and other countries. They'll steal an iPhone and get $50. But yet we should blindly trust that our information, worth far more than $50, well, that's untouchable. As I said, I hope you are right.
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Something strange happened with GOL. I was able to buy a ticket using my US credit card the first time I tried. I had problems in the past like the price kept going up while I was filling out form or some other issues that I forgot now.
I got a price for Brazil Airpass. Brazil Airpass maybe cheaper if you buy flight for next week but it's not cheaper if you buy your own domestic flights several weeks before.
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Can You redact / black out your account number and other sensitive data?
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2881392]I don't have a problem with Brazil using the visa as a money grab, but the fact I need to send them my bank info too because they think Americans are going there to become homeless is laughable. Homeless people get everything in America, first class healthcare in the ER, food stamps, food banks. I've been to Brazil so many times and only see Brazilian homeless, not American homeless. Unfortunately, I paid for my flight and hotel 6 months ago, so I don't think I can get a refund. Bottom line is this government proves time and time again how incompetent and dumb they are and always will be. Brazilians have to have a visa to come here because they are known for overstaying their visa like the Philippines. I guarantee they will see a drop in tourism with this and eventually get rid of some of these requirements.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2881513]I, like many others, sadly, will take our money elsewhere. So if that helps reset a market, good for the mongers.[/QUOTE]Nobody is forcing you to go to Brazil. Embratur won't miss you. Less gringos is always good news from a mongers point of view.
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Visa Process
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2881513]What? The embassy? Which embassy? It's electronic. It goes to some Brazilian bureacracy. I dare say the Brazillian embassy in Miami or New York is not involved.[/QUOTE]The Brazilian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, of which its embassies and consulates are a part, is and will remain responsible for the visa process. You really should educate yourself on how things work before declaring that one's security will be unduly put at risk because of the announced requirements to get a Brazilian e-visa. You proclaim the danger without even understanding the machinations of the process! Best for you to just go somewhere else since your repeated warnings aren't making any inroads here with seasoned world travelers who have had to manage visa requirements for various countries many, many, many times before. I do believe you protest too much.
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Photoacompantes fakes?
Photoacompantes fakes?
I am thinking of visiting Brazil and was wondering how big of a problem fakes are on Photocompantes?
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[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2881513]...Do you really believe that those documents would not be available to the immigration officer that actually admits you into Brazil? It would be even more ludicrous if they didn't have access to it. ....[/QUOTE]I think you overthink it in this case. They already approved your visa, why would they need this outdated bank statement.
The new president in Colombia is doing the same thing. The presidents of both countries have the same political leaning. They don't need any reason to do what they want to do. If they are in the same position as US, they would behave the same. US citizens are already lucky when compared to some other countries. The requirements for some other countries are even more stringent that one has to provide employment and must apply in person.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2881767]I think you overthink it in this case. They already approved your visa, why would they need this outdated bank statement.
The new president in Colombia is doing the same thing. The presidents of both countries have the same political leaning. They don't need any reason to do what they want to do. If they are in the same position as US, they would behave the same. US citizens are already lucky when compared to some other countries. The requirements for some other countries are even more stringent that one has to provide employment and must apply in person.[/QUOTE]I agree with all of your points. And you're correct, the Visa would already be approved. With my data at a minimum stored somewhere, and likely a click away from thousands of government officials.
Yes, I'm overthinking this. And talking about it far more than I want. LOL But this type of theft happens in the US. CBP officials have been bought off by cartels. US bank employees have been bought off by cartels and other organized crime syndicates. So no, I do not believe Brazil officials are less susceptible. As I said earlier, your personal information is far more valuable to the criminals than an iPhone. So be it data security or extortion, I don't see it as far fetched. I don't fault anyone for taking that risk. In a perverted way, there is safety in numbers. The more bank statements, the less chance your number is chosen.
As for why they do it, you are correct. Their land, their rules. I do think Colombia has a slightly better political relationship with the US. But, yes, both leaders are unabashed communists with similar interests. But I do not complain about the visa requirement. It's simply the bank statement. That said, I'm not convinced this is a net positive revenue decision. I've canceled my plans to visit Brazil in a couple months. I am not even a drop in the bucket. But I'd have probably infused $3,000+ into the economy, between lodging, food, drinks and chicas. (Yes, chicas count. LOL) That's a $2,900 loss. That means Lula needs 36 visas to make up for one cancellation. Who knows; maybe the cancellations will be minimal I suspect not, but that's little more than speculation on my part. But my point is that this isn't necessarily the revenue boost to the economy some think it is. It's really just a pissing match between Brazil and the US.
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[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2881445]Thanks for sharing. Highlights many of my concerns.
The lunacy of it all: what does Brazil gain by validating $2,000 "for travel"? There's no legitimate assurance they receive. Having $2,000 in an account at a point in time? Wtf does that mean? LOL The whole visa requirement is punitive. That's not to say it's not deserved retribution! But making me pay to jump through hoops and assuming the risk of someone making $200 USD a month being bribed is "far fetched"? No thanks.[/QUOTE]Everyone is only focusing on the $2000 bank statement. But according the Brazilian visa office there are 2 other options that no one is talking about. Here is the document requirement from off the site:
"Printed bank statement showing transactions for the last 30 days and showing balance of US $ 2,000.00 or proof of income or credit card statement".
So you can use proof of income (not sure how that would like) or a credit card statement. I just don't know things, like for the proof of income, what is that? A letter I right that says how much I make? A tax form? Letter from my boss? Then there's the how much do I need to make in order to get the visa? With the CC, it's how much is needed on the CC in order to get the visa? What if I don't take that CC to Brazil with me?
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2881767]I think you overthink it in this case. They already approved your visa, why would they need this outdated bank statement.[/QUOTE]It seems he has never been through immigration. They simply look at your passport, ask how long you are staying, then stamp your passport and write how many days you are allowed and on to the next person. They are not analyzing documents and asking you for all kind of other proof of whatever. I think they are actually contractors now. They are definitely not the federal police how they used to be. How the hell are they going to send in a request that they need to see the person's bank statement, visa application, or small pictures they had to submit before they stamp the passport. Ridiculous. Can you imagine how long the lines would be? They are not the top scammers that he is suspecting them to be. Definitely overthinking it.
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[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2881771]With my data at a minimum stored somewhere, and likely a click away from thousands of government officials. Yes, I'm overthinking this. And talking about it far more than I want. LOL But this type of theft happens in the US. CBP officials have been bought off by cartels. US bank employees have been bought off by cartels and other organized crime syndicates. So no, I do not believe Brazil officials are less susceptible. But I'd have probably infused $3,000+ into the economy,[/QUOTE]You really think a multi-billion dollar cartel is worried about the $2000 on your bank statement? Man please. If you are that worried then it only takes 5 minutes to open a bank account online and deposit $2,000. You can close it right after they give you a visa. You are making something out of nothing.
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All of us combined won't make a dent in their economy.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2881771]I agree with all of your points. And you're correct, the Visa would already be approved. With my data at a minimum stored somewhere, and likely a click away from thousands of government officials.
Yes, I'm overthinking this. And talking about it far more than I want. LOL But this type of theft happens in the US. CBP officials have been bought off by cartels. US bank employees have been bought off by cartels and other organized crime syndicates. So no, I do not believe Brazil officials are less susceptible. As I said earlier, your personal information is far more valuable to the criminals than an iPhone. So be it data security or extortion, I don't see it as far fetched. I don't fault anyone for taking that risk. In a perverted way, there is safety in numbers. The more bank statements, the less chance your number is chosen.
As for why they do it, you are correct. Their land, their rules. I do think Colombia has a slightly better political relationship with the US. But, yes, both leaders are unabashed communists with similar interests. But I do not complain about the visa requirement. It's simply the bank statement. That said, I'm not convinced this is a net positive revenue decision. I've canceled my plans to visit Brazil in a couple months. I am not even a drop in the bucket. But I'd have probably infused $3,000+ into the economy, between lodging, food, drinks and chicas. (Yes, chicas count. LOL) That's a $2,900 loss. That means Lula needs 36 visas to make up for one cancellation. Who knows; maybe the cancellations will be minimal I suspect not, but that's little more than speculation on my part. But my point is that this isn't necessarily the revenue boost to the economy some think it is. It's really just a pissing match between Brazil and the US.[/QUOTE]
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That is way too early to be buying flight tickets and reserving hotels.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2881392]. Unfortunately, I paid for my flight and hotel 6 months ago, so I don't think I can get a refund. .[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2881771]...That said, I'm not convinced this is a net positive revenue decision....[/QUOTE]I think the motivation is not money.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2881754]The Brazilian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, of which its embassies and consulates are a part, is and will remain responsible for the visa process. You really should educate yourself on how things work before declaring that one's security will be unduly put at risk because of the announced requirements to get a Brazilian e-visa. You proclaim the danger without even understanding the machinations of the process! Best for you to just go somewhere else since your repeated warnings aren't making any inroads here with seasoned world travelers who have had to manage visa requirements for various countries many, many, many times before. I do believe you protest too much.[/QUOTE]First, my intent is not to "make inroads" with anyone. Certainly not with people who cannot accept facts. I don't care if the immigration officer reports to Lula himself. The risk is the same. You have government employees earning pennies a day that are susceptible to being bought out. That's not a slam on Brazil; it happens all over the world. So then it comes down to what are you comfortable handing over and putting at risk. As I've said many times now, I don't fault anyone for doing it. I do fault people who think that handing over very personal information comes with no risk. That's just foolish.
Cute how you lump all visa processes in the same bucket. They aren't. But "seasoned world travelers" would already know that. (For what it's worth, I would put good money that I have had many more international trips over the last 10 years than you. I really don't care but your sad excuse for a backhand failed.) Your problem is a common issue on this board and others. Too many posters think their experience, their preferences, their issues, etc. Are the only experience. Whether it's physical appearance, desired services, where to find girls, or risk profiles, we all have different experiences. THAT was my intent. To let people know of the risk. I'm not going to go into my personal job but this is a topic I know very well. My intent is to highlight the risk and let others decide what they are comfortable with. To claim to know it all. Well, I'll leave that to the blowhards.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2881797]It seems he has never been through immigration. They simply look at your passport, ask how long you are staying, then stamp your passport and write how many days you are allowed and on to the next person. They are not analyzing documents and asking you for all kind of other proof of whatever. I think they are actually contractors now. They are definitely not the federal police how they used to be. How the hell are they going to send in a request that they need to see the person's bank statement, visa application, or small pictures they had to submit before they stamp the passport. Ridiculous. Can you imagine how long the lines would be? They are not the top scammers that he is suspecting them to be. Definitely overthinking it.[/QUOTE]I hesitate to respond to this because, Mr E, I think you add value in many ways to this board. But if you think that you don't have a profile built up in a database that is at the fingertips of the person stamping your passport, then I feel safe in saying that I am not the ridiculous one here. Maybe it's not me that's never been through immigration. I suppose they scan your passport for shits and giggles while they play solitare on their 1985 Macintosh?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2881798]You really think a multi-billion dollar cartel is worried about the $2000 on your bank statement? Man please. If you are that worried then it only takes 5 minutes to open a bank account online and deposit $2,000. You can close it right after they give you a visa. You are making something out of nothing.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, you've missed the point. It's not the $2,000 that is the issue. It's the information. Do you have any idea how much an identity is worth to an organized crime network? I do. I know how it works because I see it it every single day in my job.
But that's only one of the risks. Some tourists will turn over their normal bank statements, with far more than $2,000. You don't think that elevates their risk? Extortion happens every day. Now arm the bad guys with your net worth? Yeah, no risk there. Smh.
Clearly, you doubt the risk or think I'm full of shit. Either way, I respect your opinion. I don't have a dog in that fight.
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[QUOTE=Fewdie;2881823]All of us combined won't make a dent in their economy.[/QUOTE]Debatable. Us mongers, no? But tourism in general is a vital revenue stream. Pre-Covid numbers:
Tourism in Brazil accounts directly for 3.1% of GDP, rising to 9.6% if indirect effects are also included. The sector supported 2.1 million jobs in 2018, which accounts for 2.5% of total employment.
It's also estimated US travelers spend $3,825 in Brazil per trip.
I think it's safe to say that the visa issue isn't going to boost travel to Brazil. I have no clue how many people will change plans. So I cannot possibly predict the impact.
As Nounce pointed out (as have I, repeatedly,) this decision was not made based on financial data. It was punitive. But from a financial impact, this move is a loser. In a country that should be more concerned about the financial impact. But again, I think it was Nounce that pointed out the politics of it all.
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Well!
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2882017]For what it's worth, I would put good money that I have had many more international trips over the last 10 years than you. To claim to know it all. Well, I'll leave that to the blowhards.[/QUOTE]That means a lot coming from a guy who said he no longer wanted to talk about the matter, and then turns around and posts several more messages on the same topic. The bottom line is that nobody cares whether you choose to seek a visa to go to Brazil or not. We don't care! And for what it's worth, my travel experience extends literally [B]over my entire lifetime[/B], so I'm not too impressed with how much travel someone may have done over the last decade LOL! All I know is that I've been to over 50 countries on 5 continents. That's more than enough to know about visa requirements from countries all over the world. And I'm not finished yet!
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For God's sake, if somebody don't want to travel to Brazil, stay at home. Stop crying and accept the current situation.
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[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2882031]I think it's safe to say that the visa issue isn't going to boost travel to Brazil. I have no clue how many people will change plans. So I cannot possibly predict the impact.[/QUOTE]I could be wrong, but I think they initially took the visa away expecting it to boost travel in Brazil but it did not. So I guess they are just reinstating it in that case.
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The only tourist that they lost so far is you. They don't really care. Americans don't spend too much money when they travel anyways.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2882031]Debatable. Us mongers, no? But tourism in general is a vital revenue stream. Pre-Covid numbers:
Tourism in Brazil accounts directly for 3.1% of GDP, rising to 9.6% if indirect effects are also included. The sector supported 2.1 million jobs in 2018, which accounts for 2.5% of total employment.
It's also estimated US travelers spend $3,825 in Brazil per trip.
I think it's safe to say that the visa issue isn't going to boost travel to Brazil. I have no clue how many people will change plans. So I cannot possibly predict the impact.
As Nounce pointed out (as have I, repeatedly,) this decision was not made based on financial data. It was punitive. But from a financial impact, this move is a loser. In a country that should be more concerned about the financial impact. But again, I think it was Nounce that pointed out the politics of it all.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2882055]I could be wrong, but I think they initially took the visa away expecting it to boost travel in Brazil but it did not. So I guess they are just reinstating it in that case.[/QUOTE]You are right about the reasons given. What makes it a silly argument is that the majority of the time a visa wasn't required was during Covid. When no one could travel, so how could they effectively measure the effect of the no visa policy?
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[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2882195]You are right about the reasons given. What makes it a silly argument is that the majority of the time a visa wasn't required was during Covid. When no one could travel, so how could they effectively measure the effect of the no visa policy?[/QUOTE]Nobody ever accused the Brazilian government of being smart. They need to compare 2019 numbers to the 2024 calendar year when it ends. They will see a difference.
Who said Americans don't spend a lot there. That's ridiculous.
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Reason
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2882055]I could be wrong, but I think they initially took the visa away expecting it to boost travel in Brazil but it did not. So I guess they are just reinstating it in that case.[/QUOTE]Again, the reason why the visa requirement is being reinstated is based on the principle of reciprocity, not because they thought not requiring one would boost travel but didn't. Why do people keep making this hard to understand? It's very easy to understand, and it's an approach that other countries choose to follow as well.
[URL]https://www.afar.com/magazine/u-s-travelers-will-soon-need-a-visa-to-enter-brazil?_amp=true[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2882223]Again, the reason why the visa requirement is being reinstated is based on the principle of reciprocity, not because they thought not requiring one would boost travel but didn't. Why do people keep making this hard to understand[/QUOTE]If that is the case, then why did they take it away in the first place? The USA never took away the requirement for them to have one. So that could not have been in reciprocity.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2882223]Again, the reason why the visa requirement is being reinstated is based on the principle of reciprocity, not because they thought not requiring one would boost travel but didn't. Why do people keep making this hard to understand? It's very easy to understand, and it's an approach that other countries choose to follow as well.[/QUOTE]"Former president Jair Bolsonaro had scrapped the visa requirements in 2019 to bolster the country's tourism industry, but the four countries continued to demand visas from Brazilians. Bolsonaro criticized the decision last week after the news outlet G1 first reported the upcoming change. "Another revocation by Lula. Less jobs and less stimulus of the hotel sector," he said on Twitter. " So yes it was taken away to boost travel, but put back because other countries would not take their requirement away.
[URL]https://apnews.com/article/brazil-us-tourism-visas-lula-bolsonaro-e206025994b64fa5695484b99a807971[/URL]
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Whatever
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2882282]If that is the case, then why did they take it away in the first place? The USA never took away the requirement for them to have one. So that could not have been in reciprocity.[/QUOTE]The first part of what you said was correct. Yes, the Bolsonaro administration removed the visa requirement to boost travel to Brazil. But then the Lula administration came back in and reinstated it based on reciprocity. "These countries require our citizens to have a tourist visa, so we're going to require theirs to have one too". For example, Japan was originally one of the countries that Brazil was going to reimpose the visa requirement on, but both countries have since agreed to waive tourist visa requirements for their respective citizens. In any event, like I say whatever. I've got my valid Brazilian tourist visa, and when it's about to expire I'll get another one (shrugs).
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My solution to the January 10 visa implementation date: I arrive January 9.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2882386]My solution to the January 10 visa implementation date: I arrive January 9.[/QUOTE]Unless you miss your flight.
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Meltdown
Hope this wasn't one of the bros:
[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/12/31/news/american-airlines-traveler-restrained-by-passengers-during-meltdown-before-us-flight/amp/[/URL]
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He just found out that he needs to show his bank statement to get his tourist visa.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2882522]Hope this wasn't one of the bros:
[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/12/31/news/american-airlines-traveler-restrained-by-passengers-during-meltdown-before-us-flight/amp/[/URL][/QUOTE].
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Ha!
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2882591]He just found out that he needs to show his bank statement to get his tourist visa.[/QUOTE]Too damn funny LOLOLOL!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2882522]Hope this wasn't one of the bros:
[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/12/31/news/american-airlines-traveler-restrained-by-passengers-during-meltdown-before-us-flight/amp/[/URL][/QUOTE]I just flew out of GRU to MIA on the 1st. It took way over an hour to get through 3 lines (check in, security, & immigration). People were jumping through the immigration line and several waiting passengers loudly called the line jumpers on it and complained to the one lone immigration official assigned to line management. I could easily imagen things turning violent, we were one punch away actually. And who's fault is this? Well sure, one has to keep one's composure in situations like this, or face severe consequences, but shit, travelling by air is a frigin' insult and nightmare these days. The airlines, the security, and immigration are all at fault for this BS.
I remember the good old days before the internet and 9/11 when you could show up 30 minutes before a flight and still catch your flight, and planes were half filled with passengers then, and you could have a whole row to yourself on an overnight flight. Air travel used to be fun back in the day. Now it is strictly a cattle car experience. For example. My Latam New Year's evening flight was fully booked, but we arrived at MIA a half hour early and I was in and out of the airport in 30 minutes. I picked up my rental car and drove home before rush hour hit. So, on a scale of 1 to 10, I rate the whole experience a 5. I just wish I could have stayed longer in SP. Oh well. In 6 months I will endure another hell flight back to the city of women. I can't help myself.
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Flight Fights
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2883154]I just flew out of GRU to MIA on the 1st. It took way over an hour to get through 3 lines (check in, security, & immigration). People were jumping through the immigration line and several waiting passengers loudly called the line jumpers on it and complained to the one lone immigration official assigned to line management. I could easily imagen things turning violent, we were one punch away actually. And who's fault is this? Well sure, one has to keep one's composure in situations like this, or face severe consequences, but shit, travelling by air is a frigin' insult and nightmare these days. The airlines, the security, and immigration are all at fault for this BS.
I remember the good old days before the internet and 9/11 when you could show up 30 minutes before a flight and still catch your flight, and planes were half filled with passengers then, and you could have a whole row to yourself on an overnight flight. Air travel used to be fun back in the day. Now it is strictly a cattle car experience. For example. My Latam New Year's evening flight was fully booked, but we arrived at MIA a half hour early and I was in and out of the airport in 30 minutes. I picked up my rental car and drove home before rush hour hit. So, on a scale of 1 to 10, I rate the whole experience a 5. I just wish I could have stayed longer in SP. Oh well. In 6 months I will endure another hell flight back to the city of women. I can't help myself.[/QUOTE]That's why I'm willing to spend / invest more on the travel experience to have as comfortable a flight as possible (starting with the ground experience) while cutting down on how much I spend on my lodging once I arrive. I go for first / business class as often as I can. And when I can't, then I'm at least in a premium class seat. I try to avoid the "cattle car" economy experience at almost all cost. Lucky for me I can pretty much always afford some kind of premium seating no matter what. Then for lodging I tend to stick with 3-star hotels, and sometimes 4-star. This is what works for me budget / comfort wise. I don't sweat the hotel too much (don't need the nicest) because I will be spending a lot of time away from the hotel room anyway. But no plane no far away, exotic, foreign pussy! Haha!
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Illumination
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2882285]"Former president Jair Bolsonaro had scrapped the visa requirements in 2019 to bolster the country's tourism industry, but the four countries continued to demand visas from Brazilians. Bolsonaro criticized the decision last week after the news outlet G1 first reported the upcoming change. "Another revocation by Lula. Less jobs and less stimulus of the hotel sector," he said on Twitter. " So yes it was taken away to boost travel, but put back because other countries would not take their requirement away.
[URL]https://apnews.com/article/brazil-us-tourism-visas-lula-bolsonaro-e206025994b64fa5695484b99a807971[/URL][/QUOTE]The initial visa wavers were announced during the Dilma Rousseff / Michel Temer Administration for the 2016 Rio Olympics. The waver was kept in place extended through the Michel Temer Administration when he replaced Dilma Rousseff who was kicked out of office a few weeks prior to the commencement of the 2016 Rio Olympics. When Jair Bolsonaro replaced Michel Temer, Jair Bolsonaro did indeed formally scrapped the visa requirement. And of course, since Lula replaced Jair Bolsonaro, Lula has indeed formally reinstated the visa requirement as a reciprocity / punitive issue.
[URL]https://www.cntraveler.com/stories/2016-01-05/americans-wont-need-visas-to-visit-brazil-this-summer[/URL]
During the entire period US to Brazil tourism did not increases (as hoped by tourism boards and the hospitality industry) primary due to IMHO [B]media scares of Dengue Fever and Zika virus outbreak prior, during, and after 2016 Olympics[/B] in addition to the Global COVID pandemic. Also add Media increasingly reporting Crime waves/scares. Resulting in the perception of Brazil as a dangerous country.
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Visa requirement postponded until April
What a waste of time and money!
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Wonder if they are going to refund the money or just keep working on the ones they have in line?
[URL]https://cbn.globo.com/politica/noticia/2024/01/04/governo-adia-obrigatoriedade-de-vistos-para-turistas-dos-eua-canada-e-australia-para-abril.ghtml[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Anaggie;2883542]Wonder if they are going to refund the money or just keep working on the ones they have in line?
[URL]https://cbn.globo.com/politica/noticia/2024/01/04/governo-adia-obrigatoriedade-de-vistos-para-turistas-dos-eua-canada-e-australia-para-abril.ghtml[/URL][/QUOTE]The Brazilian Embassy in Miami website or the [URL]https://brazil.vfsevisa.com/[/URL] website show no change / update. I would not yet take the news article as official notification of record. If you're traveling soon verify with Brazilian Embassy.
However if this postponement will happen what happens to individuals who have recieved thier e-Visa?
Or individuals in process but not yet issued (do they get refund or will it still be processed / issued)?
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I hope I get my 80 bucks back. That's a weeks worth of hookers in villa mimosa.
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[QUOTE=UniversalX;2883559]The Brazilian Embassy in Miami website or the [URL]https://brazil.vfsevisa.com/[/URL] website show no change / update. I would not yet take the news article as official notification of record. If you're traveling soon verify with Brazilian Embassy.
However if this postponement will happen what happens to individuals who have recieved thier e-Visa?
Or individuals in process but not yet issued (do they get refund or will it still be processed / issued)?[/QUOTE]Reported by Veja and other newspapers that visa for Americans citizens, Canadians and Aussies has been deferred until April 10,2024.
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So that means the guy who canceled his flight tickets and hotels from 6 months ago and never got his refund, didn't really need to cancel?
[QUOTE=Nounce;2883541]What a waste of time and money![/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=Fewdie;2882194]The only tourist that they lost so far is you. They don't really care. Americans don't spend too much money when they travel anyways.[/QUOTE]As the "only tourist" they lost, I sure do have alot of pull, huh? LMAO.
"however, the measure was negotiated after pressure from businesspeople and agents in the tourism sector, who argue that the visa bureaucratizes and limits the foreign public's intention to travel to Brazil. ".
[URL]https://cbn.globo.com/politica/noticia/2024/01/04/governo-adia-obrigatoriedade-de-vistos-para-turistas-dos-eua-canada-e-australia-para-abril.ghtml[/URL]
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[QUOTE=GigiBuffon;2883604]Reported by Veja and other newspapers that visa for Americans citizens, Canadians and Aussies has been deferred until April 10,2024.[/QUOTE]Last time I checked these publications / newspapers don't issue visas. It's best to rely on official sources.
Only official sources, [URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/eresp/noticias/inicio-da-emissao-do-visto-eletronico-e-visa-para-turistas-dos-eua-canada-e-australia[/URL].
Overall, it looks like they are still taking applications for visas, they must have been overwhelmed or had some issue that prompted the delay/deferral. Looks like Japan and Brazil reached an agreement for a visa waver for their citizen's travel.
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Visa requirements postponed
Another data point. American Airlines just sent me an email informing me of the postponement of the visa requirement.
"The Government of Brazil has postponed the visa requirement to enter the country. Citizens of the USA, Canada and Australia will now need a visa starting April 10,2024.
This means you can board your flight in January without a Brazil visa. To stay up to date on Brazil's visa requirements, visit this website. ".
Which links to official announcement.
[URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-washington/consulate-general-of-brazil-in-washington-dc/visit-visas-for-citizens-of-australia-canada-united-states/view?[/URL]
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[QUOTE=UniversalX;2883739]Overall, it looks like they are still taking applications for visas, they must have been overwhelmed or had some issue that prompted the delay/deferral.[/QUOTE]They have always taken applications. Whether or not you need to submit one to enter the country is a different story.
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[QUOTE=UniversalX;2883739]Last time I checked these publications / newspapers don't issue visas. It's best to rely on official sources.
Only official sources, [URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/eresp/noticias/inicio-da-emissao-do-visto-eletronico-e-visa-para-turistas-dos-eua-canada-e-australia[/URL].
Overall, it looks like they are still taking applications for visas, they must have been overwhelmed or had some issue that prompted the delay/deferral. Looks like Japan and Brazil reached an agreement for a visa waver for their citizen's travel.[/QUOTE]You can always apply for the visa and be in the safe side. But, if you think "Diário Oficial the União" an official source of the government or the most reliable newspapers of Brasil will mislead the population on such a matter, then there is not much else that I can say.
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[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/brazil-postpones-visa-requirements-us-canada-australia-citizens-106130949[/URL]
Brazil postpones visa requirements until April 10.
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Living in Brazil during a Global War?
Anyone thought about how living in Brazil would be for an expat during a global war?
Some books / blogs / podcasts:
Ricks, The Generals. Brazil during WW2 was late to the conflict, only sending an Regiment to Italy. This book describes the lead up to the war too, with Brazilian generals going to Nazi Germany, and American Generals coming to Brazil to win Brazil to the US side (Marshall).
Rudd, The Avoidable War. 10 scenarios for war in the Pacific are described, which will implicate the BRICS+.
Newsham, When China Attacks. A single scenario for global war, like the Rudd book, above, is described.
Civil War (upcoming movie).
[URL]https://youtu.be/t0EzPSdna2E?si=8ljmutcrpCokSNyl[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihhI-5yMdts[/URL]
Leave the World Behind (Netflix movie, book).
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxkRAm8mvhg[/URL]
The Economist, Investing During World War III.
[URL]https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2023/10/30/what-a-third-world-war-would-mean-for-investors[/URL]
Please post more links, and / or leave your thoughts.
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I am in Rio for a month.
Some notes:
Checkout a supermarket is an arduous process, since cashiers are the slowest in the world. All it takes is a random comment from a customer, and they stop work to chat. And they count money 3 or 4 times.
Same with any situation where there are multiple booths, like the check in counter at the airport. The staff are constantly talking to each other. If there are 5 positions, 2 will stop work to play telephone, even if there is a long line.
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Visa-free Travel
Since we've been talking about it, here's a piece on "passport power":
[URL]https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/travel/gallery/worlds-most-powerful-passports-2024-photos/index.html[/URL]
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Anyone used one of these in Brazil with a local sim card (vivo, claro)?
Going to livestream vasco v flamego sex olympics from praia abrico kkk.
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Yeah, not a day goes by that I don't consider punching some Brazilian in the face.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2885280]I am in Rio for a month.
Some notes:
Checkout a supermarket is an arduous process, since cashiers are the slowest in the world. All it takes is a random comment from a customer, and they stop work to chat. And they count money 3 or 4 times.
Same with any situation where there are multiple booths, like the check in counter at the airport. The staff are constantly talking to each other. If there are 5 positions, 2 will stop work to play telephone, even if there is a long line.[/QUOTE]
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Walking around Rio, the female situation seems more dire every year. It's like the female population overall ages one year as a year passes, and nobody had kids 20 years ago. Not to mention the constant weight gain.
When a younger woman is on the street, she has a boyfriend at her side, which was not the case 20 years ago.
Also, there's definite lack of foreign tourists on the streets.
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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2885571]Yeah, not a day goes by that I don't consider punching some Brazilian in the face.[/QUOTE]They have a weird way of doing things for sure. If you really want to fit in, wear a speedo to the beach.
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Hello,
I've been obsessed with Midget girls for quite some time now. Is it possible to get one in Brazil? Anyone tried one? Any recommendations? Where do I go, what do I ask for? She doesn't have to be full Midget she can be near Midget, that's okay. As long as she's really really short.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2885648]Walking around Rio, the female situation seems more dire every year. It's like the female population overall ages one year as a year passes, and nobody had kids 20 years ago. Not to mention the constant weight gain.
When a younger woman is on the street, she has a boyfriend at her side, which was not the case 20 years ago.
Also, there's definite lack of foreign tourists on the streets.[/QUOTE]IMHO 20 years ago was different because Help was open, tho dollar was strong and girls received a lot of money for selling their bunda. As a result of this word spread throughout all of Brazil that there was a lot of money to be made in Help and the surrounding area. Girls arrived in the bus loads every day from all over Brazil, some apartments had maybe 3 girls in the bedrooms and some sleeping in the kitchen. Unfortunately those days are gone, Meia Pataca was so packed with GDP's that they opened up a place right next door called Havana to handle the overflow. Rio is much more subdued these days but it's still better than home.
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Midgets
[QUOTE=Dasha;2887453]Hello,
I've been obsessed with Midget girls for quite some time now. Is it possible to get one in Brazil? Anyone tried one? Any recommendations? Where do I go, what do I ask for? She doesn't have to be full Midget she can be near Midget, that's okay. As long as she's really really short.[/QUOTE]I remember years ago when I started going to Brazil that there was a well-known midget that guys were fucking in Rio. Was almost like some right of passage to have done the midget LOL! Not my thing, and I don't remember her name or where she was found, but maybe one of the old-timers here does just for old time's sake.
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[QUOTE=Dasha;2887453]Hello,
I've been obsessed with Midget girls for quite some time now. Is it possible to get one in Brazil? Anyone tried one? Any recommendations? Where do I go, what do I ask for? She doesn't have to be full Midget she can be near Midget, that's okay. As long as she's really really short.[/QUOTE]There's always some freaks in 13 Olavo Bilac in centro, I have a friend who likes midgets too and he had good luck there.
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[QUOTE=Dasha;2887453]Hello,
I've been obsessed with Midget girls for quite some time now. Is it possible to get one in Brazil? Anyone tried one? Any recommendations? Where do I go, what do I ask for? She doesn't have to be full Midget she can be near Midget, that's okay. As long as she's really really short.[/QUOTE]Try Vila Mimosa. VM has everything. I'm not into midgets, but I had one at VM that was really good. She was sitting topless in a window in the you-alley. Her tits were fantastic. When I saw her she was sitting with her legs on the inside of the window. I told her I would session with her. When she jumped down from the window she disappeared. She only had 36 kg. Being tall it felt strange to walk hand-in-hand to the casa where she actually worked.
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[QUOTE=Dasha;2887453]Hello,
I've been obsessed with Midget girls for quite some time now. Is it possible to get one in Brazil? Anyone tried one? Any recommendations? Where do I go, what do I ask for? She doesn't have to be full Midget she can be near Midget, that's okay. As long as she's really really short.[/QUOTE]There was one at Bomboa When I went there about a year ago. If she's not there, I'm pretty sure the staff knows about her. She was a real one meter lady.
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Well, Gol files for bankruptcy:
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/brazil-carrier-gol-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy-protection-2024-01-25/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2888948]Well, Gol files for bankruptcy:
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/brazil-carrier-gol-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy-protection-2024-01-25/[/URL][/QUOTE]Doesn't mean much. All US carriers and Avianca (currently) kept flying while "reorganizing", LOL.
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2889100]Doesn't mean much. All US carriers and Avianca (currently) kept flying while "reorganizing", LOL.[/QUOTE]The article says it will keep flying. I will find out soon. LOL. The second time I experienced this. I just can't get a break. It was a nightmare last time. I was able to buy another ticket to fly out, arrived and stranded in Medellin at midnight because my host thought I was coming the next day Had to hide my luggage on the street and had a security guard with gun in a building kind of protecting me while I was calling Uber outside the gate.
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15 Olavo Bilac had the infamous Michelle Noemi Bilas Obama whose ass I posted here in a hot tub in Motel Lips at a pernoite, AND the real porn star Lorena Green, for mfkn 80 Reais! I mean 16 dollars for a legit porn star.
OK, maybe you colorist mfkers in the group may not like the dark meat but tens of millions of strokers in the rich world have spilled loads to Lorena Green and Mambo Perv, who is an idiot for overpaying, paid her rich world Euro zone wages for her pussy and ass, and Vagabundo fucked her for 16 bucks. What a nice plump, round negra ass, and what a big delta between the 1000 USD I would pay to fuck a porn star in Vegas versus the 16 -- did I mention sixteen? -- dollars I paid to fuck Lorena Green in Casa 15?
[QUOTE=RioBob;2887525]There's always some freaks in 13 Olavo Bilac in centro, I have a friend who likes midgets too and he had good luck there.[/QUOTE]
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Photoacompantes fakes. ?
Is there a lot of fakes on Photoacompantes. ?
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2887523]I remember years ago when I started going to Brazil that there was a well-known midget that guys were fucking in Rio. Was almost like some right of passage to have done the midget LOL! Not my thing, and I don't remember her name or where she was found, but maybe one of the old-timers here does just for old time's sake.[/QUOTE]They called her Minnie Me. She was about one step from a midget, she didn't have all the midget features.
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[QUOTE=Rahsta;2891047]They called her Minnie Me. She was about one step from a midget, she didn't have all the midget features.[/QUOTE]I think you are confusing midget with dwarf. All of her body parts are in proportion as a midget. Her limbs and head were not disproportionate as they would have been if she had been a dwarf. This is her warming up our food in my apartment when I was in school there in 2003 (the good old days of paying 100 reais for all night). Her name is Alexandra. Someone said she got married and moved to Chicago way back when.
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[QUOTE=Hargow20;2890569]Is there a lot of fakes on Photoacompantes.[/QUOTE]Yep. But most of the time I do not even realize it until the session is over and I am shooting the shit with the girl or I have left the premises. You can generally tell though with experience. If you see glamour shots then it is not the girl. If you see the background as a $1 million condo then it is not the girl. If the pictures are from a run down apartment then it is the girl. If you see people have given ratings at the bottom of the ad then it is the girl. As a rule of thumb, if it is for downtown then it is the girl. If it is for Copacabana then it is not the girl. I mostly do it for the fun of it and do not have my heart set on it has to be this particular girl. I speak Portuguese and know how to make my own fun. So I just run with that. I am not paying over 150 reais though, so if I was paying like 400 or 500 then yeah I may be pissed or not accept if it is not the girl advertised.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2891072]Yep. But most of the time I do not even realize it until the session is over and I am shooting the shit with the girl or I have left the premises. You can generally tell though with experience. If you see glamour shots then it is not the girl. If you see the background as a $1 million condo then it is not the girl. If the pictures are from a run down apartment then it is the girl. [/QUOTE]Yes, only 20 lb lighter and 10 years younger, LOL.
For this reason I like Fatal Models. More down to earth and you can see the girl's recent video (along with most of her imperfections, too).
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It is a bit hard to tell since most of the girls do not have reviews. My guess it is much better to go to their place. If it turns out to be a different girl and you are not interested you can always leave. The other good thing is that rates in Brazil are cheap so you are not out to much money if you have to give them some money. What about Sao Paulo. ? Sao Paulo seems has a lot more slender blondes. ?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2891072]Yep. But most of the time I do not even realize it until the session is over and I am shooting the shit with the girl or I have left the premises. You can generally tell though with experience. If you see glamour shots then it is not the girl. If you see the background as a $1 million condo then it is not the girl. If the pictures are from a run down apartment then it is the girl. If you see people have given ratings at the bottom of the ad then it is the girl. As a rule of thumb, if it is for downtown then it is the girl. If it is for Copacabana then it is not the girl. I mostly do it for the fun of it and do not have my heart set on it has to be this particular girl. I speak Portuguese and know how to make my own fun. So I just run with that. I am not paying over 150 reais though, so if I was paying like 400 or 500 then yeah I may be pissed or not accept if it is not the girl advertised.[/QUOTE]
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Bitdefinder warning
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2891280]
For this reason I like Fatal Models. More down to earth and you can see the girl's recent video (along with most of her imperfections, too).[/QUOTE]Better be careful. My search for Fatal produced these headlines from multiple sources, "Top Escort Service in Brazil Exposes Millions of User and" & "Brazil's Biggest Escort Service Suffered a Massive Data Breach. " Maybe it is nothing, or maybe it is something. I don't know, but since I almost never do escorts and was only curious in what they have different from other sites, I chose not to check it out any further.
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There has been a real drop in talent since Covid, here in Rio. The population is older, not so many 20 year olds. For women under 40, the average weight is very high. You still see women on the street in bikinis, but now they weigh 100 kg. Just about any decent woman has her boyfriend in tow, I have seen very few hot women alone.
There are a few exceptions, maybe 1%.
But, even when a lady is with her boyfriend, its common for the woman to weigh more than the man.
I am traveling with a Thai lady, and she is hotter than most of the ladies here.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2891454]There has been a real drop in talent since Covid, here in Rio. The population is older, not so many 20 year olds. For women under 40, the average weight is very high. You still see women on the street in bikinis, but now they weigh 100 kg. Just about any decent woman has her boyfriend in tow, I have seen very few hot women alone.
There are a few exceptions, maybe 1%.
But, even when a lady is with her boyfriend, its common for the woman to weigh more than the man.
I am traveling with a Thai lady, and she is hotter than most of the ladies here.[/QUOTE]That is true. In Latin America people love who they love. They are not worried about being with the hot blonde or the fashionable girl type of the day.
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TWe have seen a drop in the number of SG's & SW's in Tijuana since coid. The good thing is that there still is a lot of good reasonably priced girls on Photoaccomantes. I wish there was some reasonably priced good looking escorts in Tijuana.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2891454]There has been a real drop in talent since Covid, here in Rio. The population is older, not so many 20 year olds. For women under 40, the average weight is very high. You still see women on the street in bikinis, but now they weigh 100 kg. Just about any decent woman has her boyfriend in tow, I have seen very few hot women alone.
There are a few exceptions, maybe 1%.
But, even when a lady is with her boyfriend, its common for the woman to weigh more than the man.
I am traveling with a Thai lady, and she is hotter than most of the ladies here.[/QUOTE]
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Choose 2 for credit card currency
Some waiters have not seen foreign credit card so they are confused even if you give clear instruction. Today, I told the waiter to choose 2 to pay in reais but she just said sim and press the enter key which default to 1 to pay in USD. This is not the first time this happened. Next time, I am going take over the machine and do it myself. That was actually the instruction on the machine. LOL.
Talking about instruction, I have been trying to add milk to Americano at Starbucks. The first time, I managed to get the barista to add whip cream to it. My fault, because she was confused why I wanted to add milk so I said cream to unconfused her. Then I got an Americano delivered with whip cream. The next time, I tried to order with milk again, the barista wrote down my order as Latte. I caught that, and told her I wanted Americano with only 10% milk. After the coffee was made, she put the cup in front of me and steam milk on her hand, then started pouring and waited for me to tell her to stop. But there was a new problem, because the coffee was only half full. It's half of what I wanted but I got the taste I wanted. Haha. I went to another place and order Americano which was not on the menu. The waiter was confused, and I just told him espresso with water which he delivered.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2893920]Some waiters have not seen foreign credit card so they are confused even if you give clear instruction. Today, I told the waiter to choose 2 to pay in reais but she just said sim and press the enter key which default to 1 to pay in USD. This is not the first time this happened. Next time, I am going take over the machine and do it myself. That was actually the instruction on the machine. LOL.[/QUOTE]Where was that? The only thing I have been ever asked is debit or credit, never in which currency I wished to pay in.
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Brazilian Democracy vs. American Democracy
Although the Brazil, has a relatively "young" democracy, it is [b]showing signs of maturity beyond that of America,[/b] the oldest and longest held democracy in the world.
The wanna be Brazilian dictator and Trump political impersonator (with Speedo tan lines...kkkk!), dubbed by Brazilians as "the Trump of the Topics" and my fav. "President Bozo", is now under investigation for their "J8" attempted coup.
Along with four (4) people arrested and 33 search warrants executed Thursday as part of the probe, ex-President Jair Bolsonaro, surrendered his passport, Brazilian Federal Police said in a statement.
[b]Brazil's former president Bolsonaro[/b] under investigation in probe into attempted coup
[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/08/americas/bolsonaro-coup-probe-brazil-intl/index.html[/URL]
[LIST]It's just utterly, stupefying that, ex-Pres. Bozo would follow [b]some REALLY dumbass right-wing "Trumpian" bullshit coup[/b], having just seen America's fail coup from the "Trump in the North".
Perhaps that's why Brazilians, called the right-wing ex-president, "Bozo"? It does make perfect sense...kkkk![/LIST]
[b]Brazil's ex-leader Bolsonaro [/b]surrenders passport over coup probe
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-68239341[/URL]
Come what may, personally I'm glad to see, Brazilians, at the very least, fully engaged in their constitutional duties, to uphold their democracy and pursue their "J8" insurrectionists. Successful convictions or not, it is a good sign and sends a strong signal, that [b]Brazilians[/b] are willing to stand up and [b]fight for democracy. [/b]
Viva Brazil!
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Hey Spidy,
Please keep the political shit in the American politics or the stupid thread where it belongs. There is no legitimate reason to contaminate this thread or any other with political bias of any kind. It will only lead to pointless arguments and hatred.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2893920]Talking about instruction, I have been trying to add milk to Americano at Starbucks. .[/QUOTE]Yes, learning the slang for coffee has been interesting in Brazil. But then again, I only drink black coffee drinks (espresso or pourover), the cafes are quite excellent in SP.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2893937]Where was that? The only thing I have been ever asked is debit or credit, never in which currency I wished to pay in.[/QUOTE]Interesting, because I see this all the time, I wonder if it's related to credit card issuer (CAD cards).
F.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2893937]Where was that? The only thing I have been ever asked is debit or credit, never in which currency I wished to pay in.[/QUOTE]It's the credit card version of the ATM conversion thing. In this case, the vendor will get a rebate when customers choose non local currency like USD. I will be surprised that you have not seen it. It is more common in Sao Paulo. It is not as common in smaller cities. The machine will tell the person to show the terminal to client and let client make the selection, usually 1: USD, 2: BRL.
[QUOTE=Foolish;2894064]Yes, learning the slang for coffee has been interesting in Brazil. But then again, I only drink black coffee drinks (espresso or pourover), the cafes are quite excellent in SP.
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I drink a lot so I try to neutralize it by adding milk or some decaf. The Starbucks I went to doesn't have decaf. Starbucks added 5 BRL for the milk
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Yep
[QUOTE=Nounce;2894114]It's the credit card version of the ATM conversion thing. In this case, the vendor will get a rebate when customers choose non local currency like USD. I will be surprised that you have not seen it. It is more common in Sao Paulo. It is not as common in smaller cities. The machine will tell the person to show the terminal to client and let client make the selection, usually 1: USD, 2: BRL.[/QUOTE]And exactly because vendors get a kickback for using USD conversion, you need to be proactive. I normally tell them them reais por favor (when I don't forget). If you don't, they might just charge you in dollars without asking.
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Brazil Pres. Bozo Investigation, here's what to know.
As the investigation proceeds, it'll be interesting to see whether or NOT ex-Pres. Bozo, follows the in the "Trumpian" footsteps of his hero to the north, which resulted in a Jan. 6-style attack by Bolsonaros supporters after the far-right politician spread baseless conspiracy theories about the countrys election process.
[b]Ex-Brazilian President Bolsonaro Targeted in Coup Prob: Here' what to know....[/b]
[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex-brazilian-president-bolsonaro-targeted-in-coup-probe-here-s-what-to-know/ar-BB1hZrOXp[/URL]
As for my post on ex-Pres Bozo being indicted, it is [b]very relevant[/b] to Brazilian general information w/r to political, social and cultural significance. If that's not your thing w/r to having a discussion or debate...MOVE ON!
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Bozo
[QUOTE=Spidy;2894424]As the investigation proceeds, it'll be interesting to see whether or NOT ex-Pres. Bozo, follows the in the "Trumpian" footsteps of his hero to the north, which resulted in a Jan. 6-style attack by Bolsonaros supporters after the far-right politician spread baseless conspiracy theories about the countrys election process.
[b]Ex-Brazilian President Bolsonaro Targeted in Coup Prob: Here' what to know....[/b]
[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex-brazilian-president-bolsonaro-targeted-in-coup-probe-here-s-what-to-know/ar-BB1hZrOXp[/URL]
As for my post on ex-Pres Bozo being indicted, it is [b]very relevant[/b] to Brazilian general information w/r to political, social and cultural significance. If that's not your thing w/r to having a discussion or debate...MOVE ON![/QUOTE]The only Bozo is Lula and Bozo's who voted for this weirdo.
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Lula is aligned with the feminist bullshit which is the enemy of our profession of mongering. Bolsonaro was president during the absolute best period for we few, we happy few, March 2020 to when Bolsonaro left, during which time currency, culture, and other issues made it the absolute best time for mongers.
BTW, how much time have you spent in Brazil the last 4 years?
[QUOTE=Spidy;2893940]Although the Brazil, has a relatively "young" democracy, it is [b]showing signs of maturity beyond that of America,[/b] the oldest and longest held democracy in the world.
The wanna be Brazilian dictator and Trump political impersonator (with Speedo tan lines...kkkk!), dubbed by Brazilians as "the Trump of the Topics" and my fav. "President Bozo", is now under investigation for their "J8" attempted coup.
Along with four (4) people arrested and 33 search warrants executed Thursday as part of the probe, ex-President Jair Bolsonaro, surrendered his passport, Brazilian Federal Police said in a statement. [/QUOTE]
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Collectively Being Weirdos...is pretty cool!
[QUOTE=Bill1963;2894456]The only Bozo is Lula and Bozo's who voted for this weirdo.[/QUOTE]
You may very well be right! That's an awful lot of weirdos though, voting at the same time...imagine that! (...kkkk!)
But really, being called a [b]"weirdo"[/b] isn't always bad thing. Some people wear it as a [b]"badge of honor".[/b]
I guess you could say, that when the majority of "weirdo" Brazilians, voted for President Lula, that it was one of those times, being "weird" was a cool thing, as they collectively voted with "weirdness" and wore it proudly, like a [i]"badge of honor", to victory.[/i]
PS: Many Brazilians, think we "gringos" (foreigners) are weirdos. (...kkkk!)
Viva Brazil!
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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2894486]Lula is aligned with the feminist bullshit which is the enemy of our profession of mongering. Bolsonaro was president during the absolute best period for we few, we happy few, March 2020 to when Bolsonaro left, during which time currency, culture, and other issues made it the absolute best time for mongers.
BTW, how much time have you spent in Brazil the last 4 years?[/QUOTE]Quite correct. While all other countries were shutting themselves off to foreign visitors, Bolsonaro the contrarian welcomed me to Brazil. One of the best 3 months in my monger's life.
As one of my SP regular girls said: "Lula is a thief who never finished school."
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2894114]It's the credit card version of the ATM conversion thing. In this case, the vendor will get a rebate when customers choose non local currency like USD. I will be surprised that you have not seen it. It is more common in Sao Paulo. It is not as common in smaller cities. The machine will tell the person to show the terminal to client and let client make the selection, usually 1: USD, 2: BRL.
[/QUOTE]It is even more common in Lima where I remember in many restaurants they genuinely asked in which currency I wanted to pay. By "genuinely" I mean they were not trying to scam me, it was just an option that popped up each time in their hand-held terminals.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2894780]Quite correct. When all other countries shut themselves off to foreign visitors, Bolsonaro the contrarian welcomed me to Brazil. One of the best 3 months in my monger's life.
Lula is a thief who never finished high school.[/QUOTE]Same here. I first came to Brazil when all of SE Asia had closed down thanks to covid. I had a big 2 1/2 month SE Asian trip scheduled to begin on April 15,2020 and I will always remember the day (March 15,2020) when United cancelled my flight to swampy (BKK). 2020 was a lost year. But early in 2021, I said fuck this and flew to Rio and the rest is history. I have not been back to LOS, CGK, Phnom, or Macau since June 2019 and although I miss it, I can't seem to stop visiting Brazil and getting my fill of Brazilian girls.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2894780]
As one of my SP regular girls said: "Lula is a thief who never finished school."[/QUOTE]Yeah, a Brazileira told me one day over lunch out of blue that "Lula never hold a job is his life" and something like he takes a cut from people's salary.
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One born every...
[QUOTE=Nounce;2894787]Yeah, a Brazileira told me one day over lunch out of blue that "Lula never hold a job is his life" and something like he takes a cut from people's salary.[/QUOTE]And you believed her?
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I am an outsider
[QUOTE=Spidy;2894791]And you believed her?[/QUOTE]I don't have to believe, agree with or disagree with her. She told me a lot more for me to understand her thinking. Obviously she is not the only one with that opinion. There is nothing really absolutely good or bad. Most opinions formed here are mostly based on some type of bias anyway. LOL
My question to you is do you know what made her say what she said?
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2 Anecdotal Stories from the Naked City
As a general rule I try to avoid discussing politics with the locals in any country I visit. I also try my best, KKK, to avoid hearing the tragic stories of how or why a girl enters the profession. But sometimes these discussions cannot be avoided, especially when I am with favorite repeat girls that I really like.
So here are 2 anecdotal stories on the subject at hand:
The 1st one is about my favorite garota brasileira, V. I know, I know, I post a lot about her, maybe too much, but I spend around 40% of my nights in SP with her, so she is bound to come up in my posts every so often. Anyway, it was during the recent Brazilian presidential elections when V volunteered that she is a big Jair Bolsonaro supporter. Why I asked? Because she dislikes the socialists and thinks they are all crooks who make false promises to the people. Her words, not mine.
Now here is her sad background story: she is 100% Portuguese, and she grew up in a "loving", nurturing middle class family in a nice house in Curitiba. Her mother died, and her father married a much younger woman with a daughter. Then her father died, and her stepmother and stepsister "disowned" her and kicked her out of the family home. She went to work as a clerk in a shopping mall. Then some guy started coming around and flirting with her. He turned out to be a "pimp" and he told her she could make a lot of money doing you know what. So eventually she accepted his offer, and he fixed her up with a wealthy Brazilian who put her up for a year in her own apartment. After the year ended so did the relationship and she moved to Sao Paulo, and she began working in Scandallo where I met her a couple of months after Scandallo re-opened after covid peaked in Nov 2021.
The 2nd story is about my favorite Bomboa girl who is a very pretty girl with a voluptuous hourglass figure. If you ask her, she will say she is white, but I would not be surprised if there were a little something more in her gene pool. KKK. Not that I care. All I see is a beautiful girl who is incredibly sweet and amazingly warm & passionate in bed.
Anyway, it was again during the recent Brazilian elections when are. Told me her sad story: She was happily married to a "good" man living in RJ and had a baby. Her husband was a manager of some kind of convenience store like a Minuto, I guess. One night 2 hoodlums or gang members entered the store, attempted to rob it, and killed her husband. It doesn't get much worse than that IMHO and I believe her story is 100% true.
So, she moved in with her mother and began working at Bomboa in SP to support her family. She takes the bus or buys a cheap monthly air pass to come up to SP every Monday morning and travels back down to RJ every Friday night after midnight. She has an arrangement with Bomboa, and they put her up in a room.
So, one night we were having dinner upstairs in Bomboa's restaurant and some election news came on the TV, and she volunteered that she likes Jair Bolsonaro. I asked why? Although it is pretty easy to understand why from her history and point of view. She said Luiz Inácio Lula the Silva is criminal who lets all the criminals out of prison and that in her opinion, Jair Bolsonaro is a good man who is tough on crime and criminals and he cares about the people of Brazil. I am paraphrasing here, but essentially these are her words not mine.
And there you have it. To be sure, these are 2 anecdotal stories, but they are real. I find it an interesting coincidence that my 2 favorite Brazilian girls happen to be Bolsonaro supporters. Both girls were disappointed when he lost the election, especially are. And I can understand and empathize with her disappointment.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2894870]As a general rule I try to avoid discussing politics with the locals in any country I visit. [/QUOTE]Me too, but since none of us is a local, here goes.
1. Bolsonaro is a far-right demagogue and misogynist, basically Trump's mini-me who encouraged his people to disregard the dangers of Covid and refuse vaccination. Blood on his hands! Tons of it!
2. Both he and Lula have been involved in corruption schemes. It cracks me up when people single Lula out as a corruption champion, as if Bozo is a knight in shining armors. Shish!
That said, Lula, like most lefties, is pro-Russian and pro-Palestinian, so he'd never get my vote, but neither would Bozo. It's a curse being centrist nowadays.
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Joke or Statement of fact?
[QUOTE=Nounce;2894799]I don't have to believe, agree with or disagree with her. She told me a lot more for me to understand her thinking. Obviously she is not the only one with that opinion. There is nothing really absolutely good or bad. Most opinions formed here are mostly based on some type of bias anyway. LOL[/QUOTE]Did she tell it to you as a joke or as a statement of fact? 'Cause it sounded like a statement of fact, to me. But you know what they say about "opinions"?
Of course she's entitled to her opinions, but anyone with some integrity would question those opinions, if they're based in lies, untruths, innuendo or just factually incorrect.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2894799]My question to you is do you know what made her say what she said?[/QUOTE]Dude, you were there, NOT ME! I think that's more a question you should have asked her. Especially, if YOU believe it to be a lie, untrue or incorrect!
So by NOT asking her said question, it all but implies, you absolutely believe what she said.
But I'm interested in hearing what those thoughts of hers were w/r to her opinions that [b][i]"Lula never hold a job is his life" [/i][/b]
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You are more interesting when you talk about music and samba
[QUOTE=Spidy;2894962]Did she tell it to you as a joke or as a statement of fact? 'Cause it sounded like a statement of fact, to me. But you know what they say about "opinions"?
Of course she's entitled to her opinions, but anyone with some integrity would question those opinions, if they're based in lies, untruths, innuendo or just factually incorrect.
Dude, you were there, NOT ME! I think that's more a question you should have asked her. Especially, if YOU believe it to be a lie, untrue or incorrect!
So by NOT asking her said question, it all but implies, you absolutely believe what she said.
But I'm interested in hearing what those thoughts of hers were w/r to her opinions that [b][i]"Lula never hold a job is his life" [/i][/b][/QUOTE]Do you consider being a "thief" a job? You took it too literally. She told me more than enough that I understand where she is coming from. I just listened and amused to see a completely different side of her.
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2894943]Bolsonaro is a far-right demagogue and misogynist, basically Trump's mini-me who encouraged his people to disregard the dangers of Covid and refuse vaccination. Blood on his hands! Tons of it![/QUOTE]How? The virus pretty much affected the elderly and those with comorbidities. Pfizer also admitted that the vax was not tested for all the shit governments claimed it would do. One funny thing to me was that right before the US election when Trump announced there was a vaccine everyone called bullshit. Then as soon as Biden got into office and announced there was a vaccine everyone was like thank heavens. Personally I never took it and although I have asthma and was in every imaginable crevice during the pandemic, I got sick zero times. Meanwhile people that were going around scared getting vaxed 4 times and staying away from people and taking all the precautions ended up with the shit.
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A JOKE it is then!
[QUOTE=Nounce;2894980]Do you consider being a "thief" a job? You took it too literally. She told me more than enough that I understand where she is coming from. I just listened and amused to see a completely different side of her.[/QUOTE]So it a JOKE then!
Yes, well I guess similar JOKES have been made about Trump, and ex-Pres Bozo. Naturally, everyone has their own variation or twist on said JOKE.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2894980]"You are more interesting when you talk about music and samba"[/QUOTE]
Thanks, much appreciated! But I can't take any real credit for music and samba, as there are way more Brazilian BMs here, that are more versed and knowledgeable on the subject than I.
No doubt, though I'm sure others will find your posts "interesting" too. since what some people find "interesting", can be most "subjective". But then again, that's [b]the beauty of ISG[/b], someone will typically find the "value" in almost anything, you have posted.
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2894943]Me too, but since none of us is a local, here goes.
2. Both he and Lula have been involved in corruption schemes. [/QUOTE]I have a feeling every president in the history of Brasil has been involved in corruption schemes.
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2894943]
Lula, like most lefties, is pro-Russian and pro-Palestinian, so he'd never get my vote, but neither would Bozo. It's a curse being centrist nowadays.[/QUOTE]I think most of us can agree here. Most politicians suck. It is the nature of the beast.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2895105]I think most of us can agree here. Most politicians suck. It is the nature of the beast.[/QUOTE]I think many of them are lawyers, and lawyers are similar to call girls in some aspects.
There are guys in my college group have nothing to talk about except politics. It drives the mild or the less outspoken classmates away from the group. Occasionally, I would go to the bathroom and sent a picture of my shits to the group. Or I would sent porn or pictures I have taken in that nature. Most are well established at the top of their profession. They could not do what I do so publicly. All my friends and classmates know I monger. I have seen and heard a lot. Last year, I met a group of tourists. One of them is a veteran and he had a strong political opinion while we were eating and he dominated the conversation. I am usually quiet. He then started to talk about a subject that I am certain I know far better than he did. I spoke, and he knew it and he said let's talk about it another time.
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So, I am on a cruise ship off the coast of Brazil. 90%+ of the passengers are wealthy Brazilians. I am bunking with a Thai bargirl.
Most of the Brazilian ladies weigh twice as much as my bunkmate. There are maybe 1% stunners, the rest are heavily unattractive.
Brazil has gone downhill in recent years, as far as women go.
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Traveler Health Declaration (DSV)
Hi,
I am travelling to Brazil. Do they still require Traveler Health Declaration (DSV)?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2894981]How? The virus pretty much affected the elderly and those with comorbidities. Pfizer also admitted that the vax was not tested for all the shit governments claimed it would do. One funny thing to me was that right before the US election when Trump announced there was a vaccine everyone called bullshit. [/QUOTE]I have no idea what you're talking about. No sane people would call it bullshit. Covid almost did Trump in if you don't remember.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2894981]Then as soon as Biden got into office and announced there was a vaccine everyone was like thank heavens. [/QUOTE]Again, no idea what you're talking about. It was "thank heavens" because the vaccines saved lives, not because of Biden.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2894981]Personally I never took it and although I have asthma and was in every imaginable crevice during the pandemic, I got sick zero times. Meanwhile people that were going around scared getting vaxed 4 times and staying away from people and taking all the precautions ended up with the shit. [/QUOTE]Your experience: Covid is harmless for not "the elderly and those with comorbidities". My experience: it killed people (yes, I personally know people who have died from it or who got violently sick for months including in my own family).
However, our SINGULAR personal experiences mean exactly squat. You can walk all over Rocinha on your own and never have a problem. But you can't claim that this behavior is objectively safe. Your survival in Rosinha without an accident would be just one person's experience.
That's why scientific reasoning is based on massive amounts of data rather than on one or two personal experiences, thank god!
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Hey Y'all...don't miss out on the COVID party in SSIB...
So [b]"appropriately"[/b] speaking, might this be a good time take the COVID conversation and hash this out, over in the [i]"Stupid Shit in Brazil" (SSIB) forum?[/i] Just asking!
[b]Coincidentally,[/b] there is one other delightful COVID debater, just itching to [b]"scratch his cojones"[/b], as it were, on this very subject. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4045-Stupid-Shit-in-Brazil&p=2895268&viewfull=1#post2895268[/URL]
Enjoy!
PS: BTW, I personally, won't be offended, should you wish to continue the convo, here! I'll enjoy reading your thoughts on the subject in either forum.
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[QUOTE=Combo;2895022]I have a feeling every president in the history of Brasil has been involved in corruption schemes.[/QUOTE]Yes, but for some reason only Lula gets singled out, as if there wouldn't be any corruption without Lula in Brazil.
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[QUOTE=ThatIndianGuy1;2895254]Hi,
I am travelling to Brazil. Do they still require Traveler Health Declaration (DSV)?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Your airline may ask you about something similar (questions) prior to being able to check-in. As far as a document from the Brazilian government the answer is No.
So check with airline after ticket purchase.
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Visa proof of funds
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2881510]Exactly! Why do they need to see $2,000? What purpose does it serve? Most people traveling from the US exceed that in airfare and lodging alone. A return flight confirmation makes perfect sense. But there is no real need for bank statements.[/QUOTE]Agreed, just an arbitrary number made by a dimwitted bureaucrat, no logic or reason behind it. I don't mind tbh, as it will keep the "passport bros" at bay so that rio doesn't turn into the sh*tshow that medellin has become.
I'll be photoshopping a bank statement on one of those online banks, like chime or sofi, and submitting that. Just like with the vax passports when life gives you lemons.
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[QUOTE=Spidy;2895299]... [b]Coincidentally,[/b] there is one other delightful COVID debater, just itching to [b]"scratch his cojones"[/b], as it were, on this very subject. .[/QUOTE]Spidy, don't be shy, go.
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Rake
[QUOTE=Nounce;2895169]I think many of them are lawyers, and lawyers are similar to call girls in some aspects.
There are guys in my college group have nothing to talk about except politics. It drives the mild or the less outspoken classmates away from the group. Occasionally, I would go to the bathroom and sent a picture of my shits to the group. Or I would sent porn or pictures I have taken in that nature. Most are well established at the top of their profession. They could not do what I do so publicly. All my friends and classmates know I monger. I have seen and heard a lot. Last year, I met a group of tourists. One of them is a veteran and he had a strong political opinion while we were eating and he dominated the conversation. I am usually quiet. He then started to talk about a subject that I am certain I know far better than he did. I spoke, and he knew it and he said let's talk about it another time.[/QUOTE]Most lawyers are the kind of people I prefer to avoid in social situations, but once upon a time, I found myself in a tough legal situation where I really needed the help of an honest lawyer. Thankfully I have two highly competent trial lawyers in my family, and they bailed me out of this perilous financial problem I was having thanks to the financial maneuverings of a large corporate real estate firm which was in the process ripping me off. My legal team went to war against the Goliath and beat them down to size in court saving me thousands and thousands of dollars.
Moving on to a more pleasant topic of conversation I. E. Entertainment: check out "Rake" an Australian streaming comedy show starring Richard Roxburgh in the title role. The story line is about the meanderings of an irreverent, mongering, gambling, cocaine sniffing, attorney. He has an ex-wife who is on to him, a prostitute girlfriend who lives with another man, and a secretary who is stealing from him and he will shag any good-looking girl that crosses his path, but in court he is a brilliant, sometimes shady, rogue, defender. It is the funniest comedy I have seen in over a decade. I originally saw it on Amazon Prime, but I don't think it is available there anymore. Too bad! Search it out. [URL]https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1587000/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_4_nm_4_q_rake[/URL].
Politically correct Hollywood tried to rip off the Australian show with a sanitized American version. Avoid the American version. It is just not funny.
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Second that
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2895445]
Moving on to a more pleasant topic of conversation I. E. Entertainment: check out "Rake" an Australian streaming comedy show starring Richard Roxburgh in the title role. The story line is about the meanderings of an irreverent, mongering, gambling, cocaine sniffing, attorney. He has an ex-wife who is on to him, a prostitute girlfriend who lives with another man, and a secretary who is stealing from him and he will shag any good-looking girl that crosses his path, but in court he is a brilliant, sometimes shady, rogue, defender. It is the funniest comedy I have seen in over a decade. I originally saw it on Amazon Prime, but I don't think it is available there anymore. Too bad! Search it out. [URL]https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1587000/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_4_nm_4_q_rake[/URL].
Politically correct Hollywood tried to rip off the Australian show with a sanitized American version. Avoid the American version. It is just not funny.[/QUOTE]Rake is delightful, especially the first 3 seasons, but the rest are good, too. Easily in the top 10 TV comedies I've ever seen.
Interestingly, Hollywood remakes almost never work with very rare exceptions (Office and Shameless are quite good, but still not as good as originals). Can't duplicate brilliance, I guess.
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Muito Prazer
This is the translation of the beginning part of a Brazilian song, I think by POCAH. I found it on Apple Music but you should be able to find it on Youtube. Let me know if you are thinking what I am thinking.
[QUOTE=Muito Prazer POCAH]I won't do anything you don't want
I'll tease you until you want
Open your mouth, close your eyes, I have a surprise
Trust me, you won't regret it
I'm going to put something crazy in your mouth
You will taste the pleasure
I'm going to do it slowly, like that
In slow motion that macetin'
[/QUOTE]
You can find this on Youtube with subtitle. you have to watch the video while listening to this song to get the contrast.
[QUOTE=Cecy Santana - So Paulo (Official Music Video)]Lets go passengers
Pay attention to what's important
Life is hard and we work work work
To get paid little money[/QUOTE]
I think they are able to live in the moment while I live in fear. LOL. I was approached by a girl to ask me to join her and her two friends a few days ago while walking to a concert. I was scared thinking they were going to rob me. During carnival, there was an older woman who was all over me. All I could think of was "Was she going to pick my pocket?" LOL.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2893920].... Next time, I am going take over the machine and do it myself. That was actually the instruction on the machine.....[/QUOTE]Almost forgot to snap this picture.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2896747]Almost forgot to snap this picture.[/QUOTE]In English too. I would ask the cashier how the machine knows USD is my currency. I guess the banks and credit card machine people figure that if people don't mind giving away money to the airport money exchange places, then why not hold their hands out too.
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Gol in Bankruptcy
Bankrupt but still flying: [URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/brazilian-airline-gol-gets-court-approval-1-bln-bankruptcy-loan-2024-02-28/[/URL]
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The Know
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2896766]In English too. I would ask the cashier how the machine knows USD is my currency. I guess the banks and credit card machine people figure that if people don't mind giving away money to the airport money exchange places, then why not hold their hands out too.[/QUOTE]The cards are coded from where the cards are issued. In addition, the payment system recognizes the from where (country) the card was issued.
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The saga continues
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2896766]In English too. I would ask the cashier how the machine knows USD is my currency. I guess the banks and credit card machine people figure that if people don't mind giving away money to the airport money exchange places, then why not hold their hands out too.[/QUOTE]The casher made the selection before I got to it today. I was charged for 120 for something the costs 100. It was like just downstairs so I went back during lunch. They refunded the money and said I would get 20% discount if I have CPF. I ended up paying 80. So there you go, CPF can give you discount. I rounded the number up and down and just trying to get the point across without writing more detail.
This is another version. Press Red twice.
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LOL, It's getting out of hand in SP.
This morning I saw the USD menu came up on the credit card terminal while paying for breakfast, I immediately put up my hands and say don't move so the waitress did not touch the machine. LOL. I laughed because I over reacted. Haha.
Tonight I tried to pretend I am calm when I saw the USD menu again when paying for dinner. The waitress hand was so fast that she just hit Accept before I realized what was going on. Then I saw the USD 35 notification on my phone. I googled the conversion and showed the waitress the BRL amount and the amount on the bill. She understood and called the accountant or manager for a refund, and selected 2 to charge in BRL this time. It came thru as 30 USD.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2900875]This morning I saw the USD menu came up on the credit card terminal while paying for breakfast, I immediately put up my hands and say don't move so the waitress did not touch the machine. LOL. I laughed because I over reacted. Haha.
Tonight I tried to pretend I am calm when I saw the USD menu again when paying for dinner. The waitress hand was so fast that she just hit Accept before I realized what was going on. Then I saw the USD 35 notification on my phone. I googled the conversion and showed the waitress the BRL amount and the amount on the bill. She understood and called the accountant or manager for a refund, and selected 2 to charge in BRL this time. It came thru as 30 USD.[/QUOTE]It may be helpful for you to list the establishments that do this [u]OR[/u] better yet have you had a discussion with the establishments and ask them why they do this? [B]Is it some policy[/B] or just a little greed (just to get the few extra dollars).
[B] In a way it seems like [u]customer profiling[/u] to me. [/B] I am sure the CARD when entered informs them as to which currency (country) the card was issued in. If they are doing prior to CARD entry, then only by speaking or asking for an English menu would they have a slight clue as to your origins.
1. I am sure there are US Born Brazilians (with US passports) with US Based credit cards, who speak perfect Portuguese, would the waiter/establishment change the credit card terminal (like your experiencing) as well??
2. Are they doing this to Canadians, Europeans, Asians, and etc. who have their respective country Credit/Debit Cards.
3. Are you using a Debit Card or Credit Card for these transactions/purchases?
4. Have you discussed this with your Debit Card or Credit Card issuer to get their input on this practice?
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Wait, what?
[QUOTE=Nounce;2900512]The casher made the selection before I got to it today. I was charged for 120 for something the costs 100. It was like just downstairs so I went back during lunch. They refunded the money and said [b]I would get 20% discount if I have CPF.[/b] I ended up paying 80. So there you go, CPF can give you discount. I rounded the number up and down and just trying to get the point across without writing more detail.
This is another version. Press Red twice.[/QUOTE]Getting CPF is easy (I have one). But how would you enter the CPF into the bill, and what kind of discount is it? Any details?
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2900949]It may be helpful for you to list the establishments that do this [u]OR[/u] better yet have you had a discussion with the establishments and ask them why they do this? [B]Is it some policy[/B] or just a little greed (just to get the few extra dollars).[/QUOTE]LOL, of course it's greed. I would say in my experience 20-30% of all establishments try this, and that's the ones I've caught (in honesty, I don't always remember to check for DCC). This is a legalized scam that should be outlawed everywhere, and I honestly don't understand why regulators all over the world allow this BS. I guess separating a tourist from (more of) his money is too alluring for them, LOL.
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[QUOTE=TheCritic;2900949]...[B] In a way it seems like [u]customer profiling[/u] to me. [/B] ..[/QUOTE]It's like the ATM that you see a conversion menu when it detects it's a US card. It's pervasive in Sao Paulo that I run into it at least once a day. The drug store will probably have it. They get a percentage kickback. I use credit card. Once you leave Sao Paulo, it becomes less frequent. I only encountered it at one establishment for the past month or so.
I don't think the terminal would make a difference because it's the same menu and you still need to select the currency.
ATMs in this city don't accept my card, not even Bradesco ATM. I never saw the USD menu came up there because practically there was no foreigner.
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2900954]Getting CPF is easy (I have one). But how would you enter the CPF into the bill, and what kind of discount is it? Any details?...[/QUOTE]I wrote an instruction on how to get CPF here. I skipped that detail to keep it short. In this case it's the promotional discount that you see in the store. The displayed discount is only given when you provide a CPF. They even told me it did not have to be my CPF.
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Walking through landmines
I saw a third kind of terminal after lunch. It works more like ATM that you must decline.
The basic rule is don't select default (1, green or accept), decline (2, red, decline) if you are not sure.
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2900954]Getting CPF is easy (I have one). But how would you enter the CPF into the bill, [/QUOTE]The cashier types it in.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2901047]I wrote an instruction on how to get CPF here. I skipped that detail to keep it short. In this case it's the promotional discount that you see in the store. The displayed discount is only given when you provide a CPF. They even told me it did not have to be my CPF.[/QUOTE]Yeah. While in SP I used the CPF of a Brazilian acquaintance to get the discount price in pharmacies. The assumption was, I guess, that I was buying meds for her. Shopping for someone else is normal. I wanted to use her CPF as well to get a Claro SIM. This time it didn't work. Claro told me she had to show up in person.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2901047]I wrote an instruction on how to get CPF here. I skipped that detail to keep it short. In this case it's the promotional discount that you see in the store. The displayed discount is only given when you provide a CPF. They even told me it did not have to be my CPF.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, I remember now. Your instruction was top notch and I got it easily. Thanks, if I didn't thank you before.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2901110]The cashier types it in.[/QUOTE]So, the question to both of you: when you see there is a discount at a store or restaurant, this is when you mention you have a CPF?
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2901203]... Thanks, if I didn't thank you before.
So, the question to both of you: when you see there is a discount at a store or restaurant, this is when you mention you have a CPF?[/QUOTE]You are too polite. I smiled. Thanks.
I think the clerk will ask you for CPF. If you know there is a discount and wasn't asked, you can tell them when they show you the price they are going to charge.
I went back to that same restaurant and now the girl knows me. She charged me correctly and proudly told me to check my phone. haha. She now knows my Portuguese is better than her English so she is not trying to speak English to me. I think I can understand Portuguese better when I am not with Brazilian.
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Regardings discounts
If you stay for a longer time in Rio de Janeiro you'll propably make lots of purchases in supermarkets. In Copacabana it's a good idea to register as a client at supermarkets like Zona Sul, Pão de Açúcar and Princesa Supermercados. If you have a CPF you can register very quickly. You'll get plenty of discounts, e. G a 20% discount on a bottle of wine. Just tell the cashier that you are "cadastrado" and digit your CPF.
Pharmacies and lots of stores gives discount to members. Usually you'll get the discount by just giving your CPF, and tell them you'll register another day.
Another way of getting discounts are by paying with cash. Tell the cashier you'll pay with cash instead of card or PIX. You'll propably get a 10% discount. This works most easily with smaller shops and not the big ones like Lojas Americanas etc. I always get discounts at hotels when paying with cash. Even some puteiros have discounts when paying with cash.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2901330]You are too polite. I smiled. Thanks.
I think the clerk will ask you for CPF. If you know there is a discount and wasn't asked, you can tell them when they show you the price they are going to charge.
I went back to that same restaurant and now the girl knows me. She charged me correctly and proudly told me to check my phone. haha. She now knows my Portuguese is better than her English so she is not trying to speak English to me. I think I can understand Portuguese better when I am not with Brazilian.[/QUOTE]Thanks, good to know!
I once wifed up for a few days with a girl who knew maybe 5 words in English, but she always insisted on zapping me in English (after I taught her how to use the translate function). She was very proud of herself, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Sperto;2901396]If you stay for a longer time in Rio de Janeiro you'll propably make lots of purchases in supermarkets. In Copacabana it's a good idea to register as a client at supermarkets like Zona Sul, Po de Acar and Princesa Supermercados. If you have a CPF you can register very quickly. You'll get plenty of discounts, e. G a 20% discount on a bottle of wine. Just tell the cashier that you are "cadastrado" and digit your CPF.
Pharmacies and lots of stores gives discount to members. Usually you'll get the discount by just giving your CPF, and tell them you'll register another day.
Another way of getting discounts are by paying with cash. Tell the cashier you'll pay with cash instead of card or PIX. You'll propably get a 10% discount. This works most easily with smaller shops and not the big ones like Lojas Americanas etc. I always get discounts at hotels when paying with cash. Even some puteiros have discounts when paying with cash.[/QUOTE]Good post. (scroll down to one of your prevoius posts with a spelling mishap, 'neckless' instead of 'necklace', LOL.).
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Cost of accomodation: Rio vs Sao Paulo
The extortionate price of accommodation in SP is a turn-off in any protracted mongering holiday. Am I right in assuming that all else equal, Rio is better in that respect? I haven't set foot in Rio over the last two decades.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2902318]The extortionate price of accommodation in SP is a turn-off in any protracted mongering holiday. Am I right in assuming that all else equal, Rio is better in that respect? I haven't set foot in Rio over the last two decades.[/QUOTE]I think Rio is not better. It has a smaller supply.
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The third type. This is the type with the invoice builtin and can record order. The sensor is at the bottom so they will turn the terminal upside down to read your card.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2902318]The extortionate price of accommodation in SP is a turn-off in any protracted mongering holiday. Am I right in assuming that all else equal, Rio is better in that respect? I haven't set foot in Rio over the last two decades.[/QUOTE]Did it ever occur to you that there are more than two major population centers in Brazil? I suggest you look at a map and bear in mind that prostitution is pervasive throughout South America, but especially throughout Brazil.
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[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2902772]Did it ever occur to you that there are more than two major population centers in Brazil? I suggest you look at a map and bear in mind that prostitution is pervasive throughout South America, but especially throughout Brazil.[/QUOTE]Very well but how relevant is this to the price of accommodation in Rio vs SP?
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Location is everything.
[QUOTE=XXL;2902807]Very well but how relevant is this to the price of accommodation in Rio vs SP?[/QUOTE]You've obviously never spent much time in Brazil or done much traveling anywhere.
It's not a secret that a) hotels are the most expensive means of accommodation in any country b) SP and Rio are the most expensive cities in Brazil. C) The cost of everything in SP is double that of most other cities in the nation, if you are to believe what Brazilians tell you (and you wallet tells you, as well).
If you are staying for a prolonged period, then look for accommodations that offer weekly or monthly rates. In may residential areas of Brazilian cities you will see apartment buildings that advertise "Aluga-se, Kitnet" offering "semanal" and "mensal" rates. Some pensions offer short term rates (see attached photo of a place around corner from my AirBnb) Oh, have you ever heard of AirBnB? Many apartments on AirBnb have weekly discounts, Then there are also ads for short-term apartments on [URL]OLX.com[/URL], which an Uber driver told me about.
As for overall costs, the price of punting varies significantly throughout the nation, but you asking about the price of accommodations, which is only part of the picture. If you can't figure out what all this is pointing to, I can't help you. But, somehow I doubt you are going to all these destinations you post about. So, it won't make much difference anyways, right?
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Why are you always so hostile?
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2903479]You've obviously never spent much time in Brazil or done much traveling anywhere.[/QUOTE]Gee man, take it easy, will you? The guy asked about hotel pricing in Rio vs. SP. For someone who doesn't visit often, a totally legit question. Instead you're lecturing him using pointless generalities about how hotel prices are more expensive than other options (which is NOT always true, BTW).
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Intel On Seeking Arrangement and Assistance
Hello To All,
Wanted to use Seeking Arrangement prior to a trip for pre-planning but wanted to find out from the experiences of the experts on this board:
Primarily --1. Do I need to sign-up and pay -up for the SA? Or can I use the free version of SA and still get the information needed from the prospects?
2. Any lessons learned from the group that they can share?
Thank you.
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Awww!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2903737]Gee man, take it easy, will you? The guy asked about hotel pricing in Rio vs. SP. For someone who doesn't visit often, a totally legit question. Instead you're lecturing him using pointless generalities about how hotel prices are more expensive than other options (which is NOT always true, BTW).[/QUOTE]That's just him being his usual angry monger self LOL! Sounds just like "Shoebree" (a. K. a. Shoetroll) sometimes. He actually has some good intel if you can manage to wade through all the acrimony.
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[QUOTE=Krilimag;2903824]Hello To All,
Wanted to use Seeking Arrangement prior to a trip for pre-planning but wanted to find out from the experiences of the experts on this board:
Primarily --1. Do I need to sign-up and pay -up for the SA? Or can I use the free version of SA and still get the information needed from the prospects?
2. Any lessons learned from the group that they can share?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]You can sign up for free and view profiles. But to send and read messages, you will have to pay the membership fees. Sometimes they will run specials and that's usually when I join. 1 or 3 months at a time and don't renew. Good luck.
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Lula to drop visa requirements?
This might be of interest to most of you who don't have their visa yet:
[URL]https://brazilian.report/liveblog/politics-insider/2024/03/28/lula-to-drop-visa-requirements-us-citizens/?[/URL]
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Geez!
[QUOTE=RioBob;2904802]This might be of interest to most of you who don't have their visa yet:
[URL]https://brazilian.report/liveblog/politics-insider/2024/03/28/lula-to-drop-visa-requirements-us-citizens/?[/URL][/QUOTE]Why don't these people make up their minds? It's incompetence at work if you ask me!
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[QUOTE=RioBob;2904802]This might be of interest to most of you who don't have their visa yet:
[URL]https://brazilian.report/liveblog/politics-insider/2024/03/28/lula-to-drop-visa-requirements-us-citizens/?[/URL][/QUOTE]A line in the article reminded me of one of my favorite old school Brazilian Funk songs, Rap the Felicidade. "claiming the move would attract more tourists to Brazil, a post card perfect country".
Nunca vi cartão postal que se destaque uma favela.
Só vejo paisagem muito linda e muito bela.
Quem vai pro exterior the favela sente saudade.
O gringo vem aqui e andão conhece a realidade.
I have never seen a postcard that highlights a favela.
I only see a very beautiful scenery.
Anyone who goes outside the favela misses it.
The foreigner comes here and doesn't know the reality.
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[QUOTE=RioBob;2904802]This might be of interest to most of you who don't have their visa yet:
[URL]https://brazilian.report/liveblog/politics-insider/2024/03/28/lula-to-drop-visa-requirements-us-citizens/?[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah they are all over the place with that.
Total shit show.
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These sites say US, Canadians, and Australians will need a visa next week. The decree is from 4 January. Was it canceled or not?
[URL]https://www.riotimesonline.com/new-visa-rules-for-u-s-canadian-and-australian-tourists-to-brazil/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.infomoney.com.br/consumo/brasil-passa-a-exigir-visto-para-turistas-de-australia-canada-e-eua/amp/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2906734]These sites say US, Canadians, and Australians will need a visa next week. The decree is from 4 January. Was it canceled or not?
[URL]https://www.riotimesonline.com/new-visa-rules-for-u-s-canadian-and-australian-tourists-to-brazil/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.infomoney.com.br/consumo/brasil-passa-a-exigir-visto-para-turistas-de-australia-canada-e-eua/amp/[/URL][/QUOTE]It was postponed, now required effective April 10,2024.
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Nao
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2904841]O gringo vem aqui e [b]andão[/b] conhece a realidade.[/QUOTE]Is it nao? Messed by the ISG spell checker?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2906734]These sites say US, Canadians, and Australians will need a visa next week. The decree is from 4 January. Was it canceled or not?
[URL]https://www.riotimesonline.com/new-visa-rules-for-u-s-canadian-and-australian-tourists-to-brazil/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.infomoney.com.br/consumo/brasil-passa-a-exigir-visto-para-turistas-de-australia-canada-e-eua/amp/[/URL][/QUOTE]There has been no change in the April 10 deadline that I have seen on the Official Brazilian Consulate visa website 3 days to go before the deadline. I am betting US, Canadians, and Australians will need a visa to enter Brazil starting Wednesday. I hope I am wrong. But if I am right I will apply for the damn thing in May which will be approximately 1.5 months before my planned SP arrival date in the middle of June.
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Twitter to be cut off in Brazil?
Twitter to be cut off in Brazil?
[URL]https://twitter.com/shellenberger/status/1776776372351836642?t=yWZxIcZQakIqduBQbv8OSQ&s=19[/URL]
Brazil IS ON THE BRINK.
I'm reporting to you from Brazil, where a dramatic series of events are underway.
At 5:52 pm Eastern Time, today, April 6, 2024, X corporation, formerly known as Twitter, announced that a Brazilian court had forced it to "block certain popular accounts in Brazil. ".
Then, less than one hour later, the owner of X.
At ElonMusk.
Announced that X would defy the court's order, and lift all restrictions.
"As a result," said Musk, "we will probably lose all revenue in Brazil and have to shut down our office there. But principles matter more than profit. ".
At any moment, Brazil's Supreme Court could shut off all access to X / Twitter for the people of Brazil.
It is not an exaggeration to say that Brazil is on the brink of dictatorship at the hands of a totalitarian Supreme Court Justice named Alexandre de Moraes.
President Lula the Silva is participating in the push toward totalitarianism. Since taking office, Lula has massively increased government funding of the mainstream news media, most of which are encouraging increased censorship.
What Lula and de Moraes are doing is an outrageous violation of Brazil's constitution and the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights.
At this moment, Brazil is not yet a dictatorship. It still has elections and the Brazilian people have other means at their disposal to confront authoritarianism.
But the Federal Supreme Court and the Superior Electoral Court are directly interfere in those elections through censorship.
Three days ago I published the Twitter Files for Brazil. They show that Moraes has violated the Brazilian Constitution. Moraes illegally demanded that Twitter reveal private information about Twitter users who used hashtags he considered inappropriate. He demanded access to Twitter's internal data, violating the platform's policy. He censored, on his own initiative and without any respect for due process, posts on Twitter by parliamentarians from the Brazilian Congress. And Moraes tried to turn Twitter's content moderation policies into a weapon against supporters of then-president Jair Bolsonaro.
I say this as an independent and non-partisan journalist. I'm not a fan of either Bolsonaro or Trump. My political views are very moderate. But I know censorship when I see it.
The Twitter Files also revealed that Google, Facebook, Uber, WhatsApp and Instagram betrayed the people of Brazil. If such evidence is proven, the executives of these companies behaved like cowards: they provided the Brazilian government with personal registration data and telephone numbers without a court order and, therefore, violating the law.
When Twitter refused to provide Brazilian authorities with private user information, including direct messages, the government attempted to sue Twitter's top Brazilian lawyer.
When I lived in Brazil in 1992, I was very left-wing. At the time, Lula and the PT's slogans were "Without fear of being happy".
In recent days, I have spoken to dozens of Brazilians, including professors, journalists and respected lawyers. Everyone tells me they are shocked by what is happening. They told me that they are afraid to speak their mind and that the Lula government is complicit in creating this climate of fear.
Brazil belongs to the Brazilians. It is not my country. As such, there are limits to what I am capable of doing.
But I can say things that many Brazilians do not feel safe saying: Alexandre de Moraes is a tyrant. And the only way to deal with tyrants is to confront them. It is up to Brazil's senators to confront the tyrant. And it is up to the people of Brazil to demand that their senators do so.
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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2906969]Twitter to be cut off in Brazil?
[URL]https://twitter.com/shellenberger/status/1776776372351836642?t=yWZxIcZQakIqduBQbv8OSQ&s=19[/URL]
Brazil IS ON THE BRINK.
I'm reporting to you from Brazil, where a dramatic series of events are underway.
I say this as an independent and non-partisan journalist. I'm not a fan of either Bolsonaro or Trump. My political views are very moderate. But I know censorship when I see it.
The Twitter Files also revealed that Google, Facebook, Uber, WhatsApp and Instagram betrayed the people of Brazil. If such evidence is proven, the executives of these companies behaved like cowards: they provided the Brazilian government with personal registration data and telephone numbers without a court order and, therefore, violating the law.
When Twitter refused to provide Brazilian authorities with private user information, including direct messages, the government attempted to sue Twitter's top Brazilian lawyer.
When I lived in Brazil in 1992, I was very left-wing. At the time, Lula and the PT's slogans were "Without fear of being happy".
In recent days, I have spoken to dozens of Brazilians, including professors, journalists and respected lawyers. Everyone tells me they are shocked by what is happening. They told me that they are afraid to speak their mind and that the Lula government is complicit in creating this climate of fear.
Brazil belongs to the Brazilians. It is not my country. As such, there are limits to what I am capable of doing.
But I can say things that many Brazilians do not feel safe saying: Alexandre de Moraes is a tyrant. And the only way to deal with tyrants is to confront them. It is up to Brazil's senators to confront the tyrant. And it is up to the people of Brazil to demand that their senators do so.[/QUOTE]Thank you for posting this timely report. It is very informative and sad. I have been following these news events from afar and it is amazing how parallel what is going on in Brazil is to what is happening in the USA. So, brace up. I am pretty sure that you will soon be attacked on these pages by left wing, Woke Jacobin BM's who hate anyone who opposes their special brand of authoritarism. We live in precarious times. I can't believe what is happening in the USA. Nobody could have imagined this shit happening 10 years ago. It is time to stand up for our rights and freedoms before they disappear forever. This is no time for sitting on the fence anymore.
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It's for this that one should get several NSFW whatsa99 and 7 witter accounts and and many anon numbers from the central station metro in cash.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2906969]Twitter to be cut off in Brazil?
[URL]https://twitter.com/shellenberger/status/1776776372351836642?t=yWZxIcZQakIqduBQbv8OSQ&s=19[/URL]
Brazil IS ON THE BRINK.
I'm reporting to you from Brazil, where a dramatic series of events are underway.
At 5:52 pm Eastern Time, today, April 6, 2024, X corporation, formerly known as Twitter, announced that a Brazilian court had forced it to "block certain popular accounts in Brazil. ".
Then, less than one hour later, the owner of X.
At ElonMusk.
Announced that X would defy the court's order, and lift all restrictions.
"As a result," said Musk, "we will probably lose all revenue in Brazil and have to shut down our office there. But principles matter more than profit. ".
At any moment, Brazil's Supreme Court could shut off all access to X / Twitter for the people of Brazil.
It is not an exaggeration to say that Brazil is on the brink of dictatorship at the hands of a totalitarian Supreme Court Justice named Alexandre de Moraes.
President Lula the Silva is participating in the push toward totalitarianism. Since taking office, Lula has massively increased government funding of the mainstream news media, most of which are encouraging increased censorship.
What Lula and de Moraes are doing is an outrageous violation of Brazil's constitution and the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights.
At this moment, Brazil is not yet a dictatorship. It still has elections and the Brazilian people have other means at their disposal to confront authoritarianism.
But the Federal Supreme Court and the Superior Electoral Court are directly interfere in those elections through censorship.
Three days ago I published the Twitter Files for Brazil. They show that Moraes has violated the Brazilian Constitution. Moraes illegally demanded that Twitter reveal private information about Twitter users who used hashtags he considered inappropriate. He demanded access to Twitter's internal data, violating the platform's policy. He censored, on his own initiative and without any respect for due process, posts on Twitter by parliamentarians from the Brazilian Congress. And Moraes tried to turn Twitter's content moderation policies into a weapon against supporters of then-president Jair Bolsonaro.
I say this as an independent and non-partisan journalist. I'm not a fan of either Bolsonaro or Trump. My political views are very moderate. But I know censorship when I see it.
The Twitter Files also revealed that Google, Facebook, Uber, WhatsApp and Instagram betrayed the people of Brazil. If such evidence is proven, the executives of these companies behaved like cowards: they provided the Brazilian government with personal registration data and telephone numbers without a court order and, therefore, violating the law.
When Twitter refused to provide Brazilian authorities with private user information, including direct messages, the government attempted to sue Twitter's top Brazilian lawyer.
When I lived in Brazil in 1992, I was very left-wing. At the time, Lula and the PT's slogans were "Without fear of being happy".
In recent days, I have spoken to dozens of Brazilians, including professors, journalists and respected lawyers. Everyone tells me they are shocked by what is happening. They told me that they are afraid to speak their mind and that the Lula government is complicit in creating this climate of fear.
Brazil belongs to the Brazilians. It is not my country. As such, there are limits to what I am capable of doing.
But I can say things that many Brazilians do not feel safe saying: Alexandre de Moraes is a tyrant. And the only way to deal with tyrants is to confront them. It is up to Brazil's senators to confront the tyrant. And it is up to the people of Brazil to demand that their senators do so.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2906199]At what age do men get bored with sex, or lose its appeal as a weekly thing and become more of a monthly thing. Is it normal to reach early 50's and just not care that much?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2906946]My T level was 210 as of last week.[/QUOTE] Low for man in his 50’s!
Early 50's is way too young for this plus your T is low. Best thing to do is to lose weight, get down to the weight you should be for your height. Limit alcohol intake, exercise and especially weight lifting which is very important. Change your diet to be clean and eliminate processed foods, increase protein. At some point introduce intermittent fasting starting with 2 meals a day and then Omad one meal a day, this will increase human growth hormone and T. It's not easy to stay young but it's worth it.
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Good advice.
[QUOTE=RioBob;2907141]Low for man in his 50s!
Early 50's is way too young for this plus your T is low. Best thing to do is to lose weight, get down to the weight you should be for your height. Limit alcohol intake, exercise and especially weight lifting which is very important. Change your diet to be clean and eliminate processed foods, increase protein. At some point introduce intermittent fasting starting with 2 meals a day and then Omad one meal a day, this will increase human growth hormone and T. It's not easy to stay young but it's worth it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2904870]Yeah they are all over the place with that.
Total shit show.[/QUOTE]100%. Ridiculous, while Eu and UK, even Mexico can visit w / o visa up to 90 days. Maybe its time to visit Pattaya instead
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[QUOTE=LAHenry;2907423]100%. Ridiculous, while Eu and UK, even Mexico can visit w / o visa up to 90 days. Maybe its time to visit Pattaya instead[/QUOTE]Brazilians are allowed to stay 90 days on a visa waver in the EU. Reciprocity. Simple.
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[QUOTE=LAHenry;2907423]100%. Ridiculous, while Eu and UK, even Mexico can visit w / o visa up to 90 days. Maybe its time to visit Pattaya instead[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure it was in response to your government doing it to their citizens first so maybe you should blame them.
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[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2907469]I'm pretty sure it was in response to your government doing it to their citizens first so maybe you should blame them.[/QUOTE]Delay again to 2025. One girl I was with say if she ever get a visa to the US, she will never leave. I'm all in support of that. Hahha.
[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/brazil-postpones-visa-requirements-us-canada-australia-time-109086597[/URL]
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[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2907543]Delay again to 2025. One girl I was with say if she ever get a visa to the US, she will never leave. I'm all in support of that. Hahha.
[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/brazil-postpones-visa-requirements-us-canada-australia-time-109086597[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow, talk about last minute reprieves. This ranks pretty high up there. KKK. But don't get me wrong. I am very glad this happened so I will not have to bother getting a visa for another year.
[URL]https://brazil.vfsevisa.com/[/URL]
But the question remains, if Lula wants this retaliatory visa BS so bad, why doesn't he just set it up like Cambodia and require a visa upon arrival and charge visitors with passports from certain countries whatever the fuck he wants? Easy peasy! How many Lula's does it take to screw in a light bulb?
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[QUOTE=TheCritic;2900949]
[B] In a way it seems like [u]customer profiling[/u] to me. [/B] I am sure the CARD when entered informs them as to which currency (country) the card was issued in. If they are doing prior to CARD entry, then only by speaking or asking for an English menu would they have a slight clue as to your origins.
[/QUOTE]Canuck here. I think it's more to do with local retail customs. I imagine a lot of funny stuff happens with customers trying to mess with the transactions or tossing the expensive terminals roughly or something. IE some servers are trained to clutch the terminal and hold it while I am tapping or entering tip or whatever. The conversion rate dialog is pretty normal while travelling for me when using credit. Funny thing is with ATMs and bank cards, I don't get the same dialogs that a lot of Americans seem to get in regards to the rate conversion.
My 0. 02.
F.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2907564]Wow, talk about last minute reprieves. This ranks pretty high up there. KKK. But don't get me wrong. I am very glad this happened so I will not have to bother getting a visa for another year.
[/QUOTE]I had to change plans, but thought I was coming down in a few weeks. The evisa process online took probably 6-7 minutes. The longest portion was making sure the photo was the correct sizing (haha from all the previous posters complaining).
Got it with no revisions in 2 weeks. Much like the CPF, I just found it easier to just get it and have more options.
F.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2907564]Wow, talk about last minute reprieves. This ranks pretty high up there. KKK. But don't get me wrong. I am very glad this happened so I will not have to bother getting a visa for another year.
[URL]https://brazil.vfsevisa.com/[/URL]
But the question remains, if Lula wants this retaliatory visa BS so bad, why doesn't he just set it up like Cambodia and require a visa upon arrival and charge visitors with passports from certain countries whatever the fuck he wants? Easy peasy! How many Lula's does it take to screw in a light bulb?[/QUOTE]Yep, they could easily charge 50 a visit. It's not going to stop any of us from going.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2907564]Wow, talk about last minute reprieves. This ranks pretty high up there. KKK. But don't get me wrong. I am very glad this happened so I will not have to bother getting a visa for another year.
[URL]https://brazil.vfsevisa.com/[/URL]
But the question remains, if Lula wants this retaliatory visa BS so bad, why doesn't he just set it up like Cambodia and require a visa upon arrival and charge visitors with passports from certain countries whatever the fuck he wants? Easy-peasy![/QUOTE]Because:
1. Easy-peasy is not the Brazilian way.
2. With VOA his consuls wouldn't feel any love. And love is all they need as the song goes.
That being said, VOA can be a huge PITA. I'm not a fan after experiencing it in Siem Reap, Phnom Penh and Hanoi (the worst was in SR, what a hot mess!
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2907920] That being said, VOA can be a huge PITA. I'm not a fan after experiencing it in Siem Reap, Phnom Penh and Hanoi (the worst was in SR, what a hot mess![/QUOTE]I have only experienced VOA in Phnom, but it was on several occasions, and it was never a problem because I am usually among the 1st passengers off the plane, so I am one of the 1st guys in line to pay for and receive the VOA.
I have never flown internationally into Siem Reap, but I will take your word for it that it was an understaffed long line. But I think that would still be preferable over LuLa's proposed and intrusive internet application requirements. But to each his own. KKK. I am just happy I won't be filling out any forms for my upcoming trip in June / July 2024 and I will plan my follow up 2025 trip to begin on or before April 8, 2025. After that I'll see what happens. If Lula's visa requirements are actually imposed, I might finally head back to SE Asia. It has been a long, long time since I had some real good Thai food and Thai girls are more into barebacking and tequila than Brazilian girls. 555.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2907564]Wow, talk about last minute reprieves. This ranks pretty high up there. KKK. But don't get me wrong. I am very glad this happened so I will not have to bother getting a visa for another year.
[URL]https://brazil.vfsevisa.com/[/URL]
But the question remains, if Lula wants this retaliatory visa BS so bad, why doesn't he just set it up like Cambodia and require a visa upon arrival and charge visitors with passports from certain countries whatever the fuck he wants? Easy peasy! How many Lula's does it take to screw in a light bulb?[/QUOTE]Because if it was easy-peasy it wouldn't be retaliatory. Brazil wants it to be a PITA. That's the point.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2908025]I have only experienced VOA in Phnom, but it was on several occasions, and it was never a problem because I am usually among the 1st passengers off the plane, so I am one of the 1st guys in line to pay for and receive the VOA.
I have never flown internationally into Siem Reap, but I will take your word for it that it was an understaffed long line. But I think that would still be preferable over LuLa's proposed and intrusive internet application requirements. But to each his own. KKK. I am just happy I won't be filling out any forms for my upcoming trip in June / July 2024 and I will plan my follow up 2025 trip to begin on or before April 8, 2025. After that I'll see what happens. If Lula's visa requirements are actually imposed, I might finally head back to SE Asia. It has been a long, long time since I had some real good Thai food and Thai girls are more into barebacking and tequila than Brazilian girls. 555.[/QUOTE]Maybe I was just unlucky because I've flown just once to each location (with REP being the worst). To be fair, I'll never forget an almost 3-hour-long immigration line at BKK once (and that was a priority line on a first-class ticket, mind you), a 1. 5 hour line under a scorching sun at Mataveri airport on Easter Island (also just an immigration line, no visa required). And other immigration lines around the world I remember that had nothing to do with VOA.
My Brazil visa expires in 2026, so I'm set for now anyway. Of course, any visa sucks, but eVisa is much easier compared to the old system when you had to commute to the consulate twice (that's if you're lucky to live in a consulate city). And it used to cost twice as much. Is eVisa still going to be 10 years? If so, I'm fine with this hoop.
Of course, Lula is foolish to be doing this, especially that Brazil is not all that popular with "normal" North American tourists. I mean, when it takes longer to fly to your country than Greece or France, do you really want to give people an incentive to travel elsewhere? But this is hardly the first time when Brazil shoots itself in the foot, so nothing's new really.
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Where else to go apart from Rio and Sao Paulo?
Hey guys. I'm going in December for two weeks and I want to see other places but not really sure which cities are "a must". Any advice?
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[QUOTE=Velib;2914286]Hey guys. I'm going in December for two weeks and I want to see other places but not really sure which cities are "a must". Any advice?[/QUOTE]You're not giving any specifics about your interests and prior experiences in Brazil. In general, Iguassu Falls is considered one of the wonders of the world if you're interested in touristy stuff and it can be done in three days. I'd say, 2 weeks is not that much to begin with if you're already considering splitting your trip between Rio and SP.
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Flood
Anybody following the flooding going on in southern Brazil? Seems to be pretty bad. Of biblical proportions:
[URL]https://www.euronews.com/green/2024/05/09/severe-flooding-leaves-at-least-100-dead-and-thousands-homeless-in-brazil[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Velib;2914286]Hey guys. I'm going in December for two weeks and I want to see other places but not really sure which cities are "a must". Any advice?[/QUOTE]I don't know what are the must but I think you can pick one city in the north and one city in the south to visit to see the contrast and different sides of Brazil.
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What I hate is that speed camera bullshit they have. Woke up to 3 tickets totalling $92. Hell that was more than it cost to rent the car.
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Iguazu Falls
Not to be Missed.
3 countries border it.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2914378]You're not giving any specifics about your interests and prior experiences in Brazil. In general, Iguassu Falls is considered one of the wonders of the world if you're interested in touristy stuff and it can be done in three days. I'd say, 2 weeks is not that much to begin with if you're already considering splitting your trip between Rio and SP.[/QUOTE]
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Sammy Law
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2914469]What I hate is that speed camera bullshit they have. Woke up to 3 tickets totalling $92. Hell that was more than it cost to rent the car.[/QUOTE]They have? NYC just lowered the speed 24/7 from 25 to 20 without providing anything even remotely resembling statistical data that would back up their wild theories. How's that for greedy fuckers!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2914396]Anybody following the flooding going on in southern Brazil? Seems to be pretty bad. Of biblical proportions:[/QUOTE]I know a few friends who live there and they are not affected. Flood seems common. I reported last year. I landed in CGH before 7 am to transfer to Santa Catalina. The flight was supposed to be about 60 minutes. I slept on the flight and woke up when the flight landed after 2 hours. I thought I was in a dream because it seemed I just landed on the same airport that I departed from. The flight could not land because of heavy rain so it turned around. I took another flight and the whole time I was there the areas that are lower were all flooded. The water came up to the bridge.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2901060]I saw a third kind of terminal after lunch. It works more like ATM that you must decline.
The basic rule is don't select default (1, green or accept), decline (2, red, decline) if you are not sure.[/QUOTE]I went to a high end clinica. The manager swiped my card on two different machines without showing me. I found that it charged more than I expected after I left. I thought they were charging me USD so I went back the next day and made them redo it. LOL. Long story short. They charge a R50 credit card fee. They told me before my visit that credit card and cash are the same cost when I asked before. I had plenty of cash so I repaid in cash.
I think I should have just asked if they charge a fee on credit card, instead of asking if cash and credit card are the same price.
I also figure out that the girl took home about R400. The extra fee is not entirely for the house. It is on record because it is paid by a card so the house needs to pay tax on that income, and the fee covers the tax.
High end clinica is still hit and miss. I always got lucky in the beginning then bad luck struck.. The manger told me I had to win the girl over in the room. I was like WTF, that is not what you told me before LOL
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Scandallo Entry Fee
Does anyone know if the entrance is still 300 r before 7 pm and 500 r after 7 pm??
Obrigado.
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Retire in Rio?
Well, here's one informed view. I never would for many of the reasons stated. Made that decision a long time ago. Are you reading Sol? I'm not biased against Mexico. I'm focused on [B]the facts[/B]. Although I clearly like places I've been to in Brazil for mongering better than I do Tijuana or Cancun, there are pluses and minuses for both Brazil and Mexico. I would not retire in either:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPhTLFL5Vq0&t=537s&ab_channel=TheExpat[/URL]
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It just depends. There are so many factors, including money, but also networks, and the person.
Living in barra, figuring out how to get non pro quality women, and mitigating most of the issues raised by that video are some important factors.
I would absolutely avoid the normal passport bro path.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2926274]Well, here's one informed view. I never would for many of the reasons stated. Made that decision a long time ago. Are you reading Sol? I'm not biased against Mexico. I'm focused on [B]the facts[/B]. Although I clearly like places I've been to in Brazil for mongering better than I do Tijuana or Cancun, there are pluses and minuses for both Brazil and Mexico. I would not retire in either:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPhTLFL5Vq0&t=537s&ab_channel=TheExpat[/URL][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2926274]Well, here's one informed view. I never would for many of the reasons stated. Made that decision a long time ago. Are you reading Sol? I'm not biased against Mexico. I'm focused on [B]the facts[/B]. Although I clearly like places I've been to in Brazil for mongering better than I do Tijuana or Cancun, there are pluses and minuses for both Brazil and Mexico. I would not retire in either:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPhTLFL5Vq0&t=537s&ab_channel=TheExpat[/URL][/QUOTE]Interesting video. It's an eye opener that most Brazilian cities are less dangerous than Cancun, LOL.
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Yes, that's what the pricelist said when I was there a couple of days ago.
De nada.
[QUOTE=HotelAl;2918914]Does anyone know if the entrance is still 300 r before 7 pm and 500 r after 7 pm??
Obrigado.[/QUOTE]
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NFL in Brazil
Is anyone here going?
[URL]https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-announces-local-broadcast-partners-for-historic-packers-eagles-game-in-brazil[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2933400]Is anyone here going?
[URL]https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-announces-local-broadcast-partners-for-historic-packers-eagles-game-in-brazil[/URL][/QUOTE]Just checked the ticket prices as I am going to be in SP during that week. They are crazy expensive. I guess I will watch it in Scandallo or some other place.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;2935424]Just checked the ticket prices as I am going to be in SP during that week. They are crazy expensive. I guess I will watch it in Scandallo or some other place.[/QUOTE]I can't believe there that many Brazilians willing to shell out that kind of money. Nor can I believe that many Americans are going to take a 12 hour flight to see a football game.
This is any new tip, but I would give it time and check prices periodically. They have a way of trying to create the impression of scarcity. Then a few days before the event, they release ticket inventory.
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[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2935549]I can't believe there that many Brazilians willing to shell out that kind of money. Nor can I believe that many Americans are going to take a 12 hour flight to see a football game.
This is any new tip, but I would give it time and check prices periodically. They have a way of trying to create the impression of scarcity. Then a few days before the event, they release ticket inventory.[/QUOTE]My guess is that the prices may not come down a lot considering this is the first game and there are enough rich Brazilians they can sell tickets to. But its worth a at last minute. These prices should come down a lot for future games, if they happen.
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62 killed
A regional turboprop plane crashed near Sao Paulo in Brazil on Friday, killing all 62 people on board, local officials near the crash site said. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/plane-with-capacity-transport-68-people-crashes-brazil-website-g1-reports-2024-08-09/
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A Newbie Can Any Please Help With Information.
My wife and I are planning our first trip to Brazil, and we're looking for recommendations. My wife likes women with us and we are interested in having some fun with other women during our visit. However, we want to avoid risky situations and would prefer to stay away from areas that attract a lot of sex tourists. We're particularly interested in meeting more discreet, mature women in their 30's and 40's. Could you suggest places where we can enjoy the country, meet like-minded people, and have a good time without drawing too much attention? GFE would be great also. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.
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Swingy and Swing motel
[QUOTE=Tarriqq;2937328]My wife and I are planning our first trip to Brazil, and we're looking for recommendations. My wife likes women with us and we are interested in having some fun with other women during our visit. However, we want to avoid risky situations and would prefer to stay away from areas that attract a lot of sex tourists. We're particularly interested in meeting more discreet, mature women in their 30's and 40's. Could you suggest places where we can enjoy the country, meet like-minded people, and have a good time without drawing too much attention? GFE would be great also. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.[/QUOTE]Swingy places.
There are plenty of swingy places in Brazil. Sao Paulo. You can read the reviews, recommendations, and house rules, respect for women's body rules, women's security, no phone camera photos, in the Casa de Swing section of gp-guia.
Also called Liberal Balada Casas de Swing.
[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=99[/URL]
I posted in the Sao Paulo forum a review of a swing club. One of my long-time very beautiful garotas was into swingy clubs to meet other women when she was married. INNER CLUB. CASA DE SWING / CLUBE DE SWING. SP are. Henri Dunant, 862 - Santo Amaro, So Paulo. SP, 04709-111, Brazil and ENIGMA CLUB. Casa de Swing e Balada Liberal Com Navio. They have at least 800 to 1,000 Google reviews about the place. My girlfriend enjoyed taking pretty women from the Inner club to join us in love Motel Swing I Motel So Paulo SP.
I saw the couples were normal mature, regular types of brasilians middle class into the lifestyle.
After that one-time experience, I preferred to visit Scandallos to mutually pick up two chicas for a night of wild ass fun. I am not into the swingy lifestyle so only went once to a swingy club.
Rest of the time it was damn easier to simply ask a beautiful scandal garota two questions. Does she do swingy and smoke good marola. Yes Yes, boom off we went for a private jacuzzi and pool at a love motel all night.
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Mobile service
Anyone using US Mobile international roaming or their data only esim in Brazil (or in other popular mongering destinations like Europe, Asia etc.)? Is the service any good?
After reading all the rave reviews online about esim companies like Airalo, Nomad among other ones, just to verify if they are that good, I started with Nomad esim service in USA expecting decent speeds, unfortunately I got speed ranging from 2-5 mbps. Nomad seems to be selling low end 3 G speeds as 5 G. I bet all other esim outfits operate in a similarly, a soft bait and switch operation. My original plan was to try them overseas if their service was good in US but I don't think that will happen.
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I use T-Mobile international pass. It works real good in Brazil. I can't notice any difference in speed between SP and Florida, but it does cost $50/ month extra over my regular T-mobile monthly service. I turn it on the day I leave for Brazil.
Note: I have a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra. In my hotel I use the hotel's free Wi-fi along with my VPN app. But I have noticed that when I leave my hotel, I must turn off the wi-fi and restart the phone or the speed will be for shit. If you have ever been in a SP restaurant and it took forever to download the menu you will know what I am talking about, so just remember to turn off the w-ifi and restart the phone and you will be fine with international pass. Of course this may just be a thing with Samsung phones. Who knows? KKK.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2937375]Anyone using US Mobile international roaming or their data only esim in Brazil (or in other popular mongering destinations like Europe, Asia etc.)? Is the service any good?
After reading all the rave reviews online about esim companies like Airalo, Nomad among other ones, just to verify if they are that good, I started with Nomad esim service in USA expecting decent speeds, unfortunately I got speed ranging from 2-5 mbps. Nomad seems to be selling low end 3 G speeds as 5 G. I bet all other esim outfits operate in a similarly, a soft bait and switch operation. My original plan was to try them overseas if their service was good in US but I don't think that will happen.[/QUOTE]
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Video of Swingy Club in Sao Paulo
I did not think about this before, I found a video that show la what's it like inside the swingy club.
www.xvideos.com/video.kibtebo7ebd/swing_party_in_brazil_sensualclub.com
I cannot guarantee but this video looks EXACTLY like Inner Club Casa De Swing in Sao Paulo. The dance floor, go-go dance table, stripper pole on dance floor, the stupid drinks setup at the tables, there is a real bus, Omnibus which I said in my report, glory holes with screen, orgy room, screens to watch couples or threesomes in action, movie theatre and private room.
This looks exactly how I remember Inner Club. They don't show the tons of security guys and security gals monitoring the hallway, or the cleaning crew wiping things down after use. The place is damn maze of hallway labyrinth. It darker than the video, of course, the people in the videos are amateur Brasilian pornos performers. The action in video was happening for reals in the club. The different porno stuff was the same, except in real life the people were normal sized or mature.
This should give those multiple PM requestors a better idea of the Innerclub swingy place. Again it could be a totally different club and wrong video (shrug) but this is how I remembered the place.
Guys horn dogging multiple gals in an orgy club. Lots of MFF threesome porno action.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2937862]I use T-Mobile international pass. It works real good in Brazil. I can't notice any difference in speed between SP and Florida, but it does cost $50/ month extra over my regular T-mobile monthly service. I turn it on the day I leave for Brazil.[/QUOTE]Google Fi Unlimited might work out cheaper for you. I have been using Google Fi for more than 5 year, never had issues in US or internationally (Brazil and Europe). Before I switched to Google Fi, I used T-mobile but it didn't work well in many parts of Europe. I just thought of trying few other services to see if there is anything better out there at reasonable price.
Update on Nomad service: The day after I contacted their customer service the speed increased from less than 5 mbps to 25+mbps and at times hit as high as 50 mbps. I guess they start you at the bare minimum speed (which might work for some) and increase it to those who complain about it. It is possible they may choose not increase the speed. So it is up to their discretion instead of giving everyone the speeds they advertise. For that reason I wouldn't buy expensive plans from them.
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Your post should be stickied
[QUOTE=Nounce;2900512]The casher made the selection before I got to it today. I was charged for 120 for something the costs 100. It was like just downstairs so I went back during lunch. They refunded the money and said I would get 20% discount if I have CPF. I ended up paying 80. So there you go, CPF can give you discount. I rounded the number up and down and just trying to get the point across without writing more detail.
This is another version. Press Red twice.[/QUOTE]I got suckered by a cashier at Shopping Eldorado mall in So Paulo. Something I learned is to always insert your credit card into the terminal so that you may press red twice, otherwise if you use contactless the cashier will hit green and screw you.
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[QUOTE=DasBooty;2938990]I got suckered by a cashier at Shopping Eldorado mall in So Paulo. Something I learned is to always insert your credit card into the terminal so that you may press red twice, otherwise if you use contactless the cashier will hit green and screw you.[/QUOTE]In shopping malls I insisted "I want to pay in Real" ("quero pagar en reais") and never got screwed (to my knowledge).
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Similar things in Colombia happens in Brazil
Hey fellas, I'm not sure on which sub should I post this but her it is:
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/brazilian-woman-arrested-drugging-robbery-224554778.html[/URL]
"A Brazilian woman has been arrested in connection with the murder of an American businessman who went on holiday to Rio de Janeiro earlier this month.
Letcia Clara Bento the Silva, 23, was arrested on Monday. Police suspect she robbed and murdered the'wayne Antonio Morris, 43, in a Copacabana apartment, according to Metrpoles, a Brazilian online newspaper.
Officials discovered the man's body on August 8 after he arrived in the country the previous day. It's thought that the Silva, along with another unidentified woman, drugged Morris and his friend with GHB, a depressant before robbing them. ".
Just be more vigilant fellas.
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[QUOTE=Ottotot;2939056][URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/brazilian-woman-arrested-drugging-robbery-224554778.html[/URL]
"A Brazilian woman has been arrested in connection with the murder of an American businessman who went on holiday to Rio de Janeiro earlier this month.[/QUOTE]I was surprised this had not been mentioned here before. I never watched the videos that I was sent but I was told there were actually 2 guys and 2 girls. Heard they picked the girls up in Lapa. My girl (who is a nurse) said even Cariocas are scared to get chicks from Lapa.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2939001]In shopping malls I insisted "I want to pay in Real" ("quero pagar en reais") and never got screwed (to my knowledge).[/QUOTE]Some will be puzzled and don't know what to do and may go ahead to hit the green button. What they should do is follow the instruction on the terminal to hand the terminal to the client to let client decide.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2939077]I was surprised this had not been mentioned here before. I never watched the videos that I was sent but I was told there were actually 2 guys and 2 girls. Heard they picked the girls up in Lapa. My girl (who is a nurse) said even Cariocas are scared to get chicks from Lapa.[/QUOTE]You can find more reports using words like this "boa noite cinderella".
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Any thoughts on twitter x Brazil? 8800 USD is annual GDP?
[URL]https://youtu.be/S3Ut8xx_QGQ?si=ebz6YMyL_r77hHXf[/URL]
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Anyone using a VPN? Asking for a friend, haha, jk.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2942244]Any thoughts on twitter x Brazil? 8800 USD is annual GDP?
[URL]https://youtu.be/S3Ut8xx_QGQ?si=ebz6YMyL_r77hHXf[/URL][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2942476]Anyone using a VPN? Asking for a friend, haha, jk.[/QUOTE]My Nord seems to be working fine. Rather dumb to ban shit in Brazil since jeitinho is actually a thing. Guess it is only banned for all the people without a VPN. What a joke.
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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2942476]Anyone using a VPN? Asking for a friend, haha, jk.[/QUOTE]Download Opera search engine. It has a VPN built in automatically. But you have to turn it on in Settings. Easy. Not as fast or as good as paid VPN but that is expected. If he wants to watch porn he will have to use a paid VPN.
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US Mobile international esim
I have used it during my recent SP strip. I bought 3 GB data plan for $10. They do have higher priced plans if you need more data. I activated it before leaving to Brazil. Once landed I restarted by phone and it was connected service provider VIVO. I got speeds ranging from 10 mbps to 50 mbps. The service was good for basic usage like using uber, maps, short youtube videos etc.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;2945935]I have used it during my recent SP strip. I bought 3 GB data plan for $10. They do have higher priced plans if you need more data. I activated it before leaving to Brazil. Once landed I restarted by phone and it was connected service provider VIVO. I got speeds ranging from 10 mbps to 50 mbps. The service was good for basic usage like using uber, maps, short youtube videos etc.[/QUOTE]Saily app is a new eSIM from the folks at NordVPN. They've got a promo for a free 1 GB eSIM just use promo code Felix (not my code). I've cycled thru 3 gmails to get it three times already.
I also use [URL]esimdb.com[/URL] to find the best deals. 3 gb /$10 is pretty good but esimdb shows a 5 gb /$10 on GlobalYo.
I also saw a comment on TomTom esim blog that if you buy a Claro SIM and dial their activation number, select 3 for English and you'll get connected to an English speaking rep who can activate: [URL]https://www.traveltomtom.net/destinations/south-america/brazil/best-esim-cards-for-brazil.[/URL] Will try out tomorrow.
EDIT: Wow 100th post. Only took me 15 years!
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[QUOTE=Balimassage;2946060]
I also saw a comment on TomTom esim blog that if you buy a Claro SIM and dial their activation number, select 3 for English and you'll get connected to an English speaking rep who can activate: [URL]https://www.traveltomtom.net/destinations/south-america/brazil/best-esim-cards-for-brazil.[/URL] Will try out tomorrow.
EDIT: Wow 100th post. Only took me 15 years![/QUOTE]Sorry that isn't the right blog nor the right SIM. Its a TIM not Claro. Good thing I just bought a Claro sim. Time for a TIM tomorrow.
Here's the link, it mentions the comment to do it by phone.
[URL]https://toomanyadapters.com/buying-sim-card-brazil/[/URL]
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eSIM: no phone number that goes with it
Isn't this a potential problem with Uber? I remember Uber sending SMSs from time to time to check whether the ride was ok.
Likewise, I have the possibility of having a friend of mine in SP buy a SIM for me with her CPF ahead of my arrival but I fear doing doing so lest Uber might wonder why the credit card is in my name and the phone number in her name (assuming Uber has access to in whose name the SIM card is).
By the way, can I run my Galaxy phone with only an eSIM in it and no physical SIM? I'd rather my non-Brazilian SIM stayed at the hotel in case I am so unfortunate as to have my phone stolen.
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Camera shy girls
Digital cameras and social media really changed the girls attitude towards showing off in front of cameras. I've just started to transfer camcorder videos to my PC. Several hundreds of tapes filmed during 1992-2007, before I started using digital cameras. Mainly homemade sexvideos, videos from Othon ho-beach and the carnival parties at Help, Scala and Monte Libano.
What strikes me the most how happy and eager the girls were to be filmed and have their photos taken. Many girls thought it was fun to be filmed during the sex act and watch afterwards. Today many girls are afraid up ending up on the internet.
I've almost not watched these videos since they were filmed. Specially the beach videos shows a big difference compared to today. The girls were much fitter, less fat people and silicon tits and asses were rare.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2946318]By the way, can I run my Galaxy phone with only an eSIM in it and no physical SIM? [/QUOTE]I have an S23 Ultra and do not need a physical SIM. I can run an eSIM alone, a physical SIM and eSIM at the same time, but not 2 eSIMs at the same time.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2946318]Isn't this a potential problem with Uber? I remember Uber sending SMSs from time to time to check whether the ride was ok.[/QUOTE]Yes, it could be. If Uber detects something is wrong they can initiate a verification by sending a text or some other form.
[QUOTE=XXL;2946318]
Likewise, I have the possibility of having a friend of mine in SP buy a SIM for me with her CPF ahead of my arrival but I fear doing doing so lest Uber might wonder why the credit card is in my name and the phone number in her name (assuming Uber has access to in whose name the SIM card is).
[/QUOTE]I read Uber account is tied to your email rather than phone number unlike Whatsapp. I believe that is true based on my experience. Yes, Uber does use your phone number for verification codes an stuff but the account itself is not tied to it. You can setup Uber app on multiple phones as long as you have the phone number you have in Uber account to receive the verification codes.
[QUOTE=XXL;2946318]
By the way, can I run my Galaxy phone with only an eSIM in it and no physical SIM? I'd rather my non-Brazilian SIM stayed at the hotel in case I am so unfortunate as to have my phone stolen.[/QUOTE]To avoid running into potential issues in receiving verification codes etc. , it is better to have a SIM that receives SMS if you are going to use data only SIM in a dual SIM phone.
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Ageism
Due to ageism, brazilian and global hoars (they are all hoars) in their early 20's, to include their male friends of the same age are allergic to the camera, and in particular insta.
Ageism. What is the cure? Shaving, money, whey protein, training muay thai, etc.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2946429]Digital cameras and social media really changed the girls attitude towards showing off in front of cameras. I've just started to transfer camcorder videos to my PC. Several hundreds of tapes filmed during 1992-2007, before I started using digital cameras. Mainly homemade sexvideos, videos from Othon ho-beach and the carnival parties at Help, Scala and Monte Libano.
What strikes me the most how happy and eager the girls were to be filmed and have their photos taken. Many girls thought it was fun to be filmed during the sex act and watch afterwards. Today many girls are afraid up ending up on the internet.
I've almost not watched these videos since they were filmed. Specially the beach videos shows a big difference compared to today. The girls were much fitter, less fat people and silicon tits and asses were rare.[/QUOTE]
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Domestic tickets
When I stay in Brazil for 3 months I do a lot of domestic flights. Buying those tickets can be a real headache. Some notes.
LATAM: Their site works good.
GOL: I had some issues with a message "Attention! You can only complete your purchase in the currency of the country that appears in your registration." This could be solved by logging out from my GOL account and purchase the tickets without logging in.
AZUL: Currently their site is really f*cked up. In the purchase process You get to a step "Proceed to services", but it doesn't work to proceed. I called Azul in Portugal. A guy told me they had problems with their site. He offered to sell me tickets by phone, but I declined.
Buying a flight ticket is something that should be done in minutes, not hours.
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[QUOTE=Sperto;2948257]When I stay in Brazil for 3 months I do a lot of domestic flights. Buying those tickets can be a real headache. Some notes.
LATAM: Their site works good.
GOL: I had some issues with a message "Attention! You can only complete your purchase in the currency of the country that appears in your registration." This could be solved by logging out from my GOL account and purchase the tickets without logging in.
AZUL: Currently their site is really f*cked up. In the purchase process You get to a step "Proceed to services", but it doesn't work to proceed. I called Azul in Portugal. A guy told me they had problems with their site. He offered to sell me tickets by phone, but I declined.
Buying a flight ticket is something that should be done in minutes, not hours.[/QUOTE]Just wondering. It might cost a bit more, but can't those intra-country flights be booked on Expedia or Orbitz? It seems a small premium to pay to avoid all that hassle.
I've got a Brasil trip in a couple months with some in-country flights and I'm thinking just book ahead of time on one of those websites.
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[QUOTE=Combo;2948520]Just wondering. It might cost a bit more, but can't those intra-country flights be booked on Expedia or Orbitz? It seems a small premium to pay to avoid all that hassle.
I've got a Brasil trip in a couple months with some in-country flights and I'm thinking just book ahead of time on one of those websites.[/QUOTE]If you want to experience a hassle then go ahead and book it on Expedia or Orbitz. Direct is best, not a third party. If something goes wrong, then you have to go through Expedia or Orbitz, not the airline.
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Brazilian Airline Sites
[QUOTE=Sperto;2948257]When I stay in Brazil for 3 months I do a lot of domestic flights. Buying those tickets can be a real headache. Some notes.
LATAM: Their site works good.
GOL: I had some issues with a message "Attention! You can only complete your purchase in the currency of the country that appears in your registration." This could be solved by logging out from my GOL account and purchase the tickets without logging in.
AZUL: Currently their site is really f*cked up. In the purchase process You get to a step "Proceed to services", but it doesn't work to proceed. I called Azul in Portugal. A guy told me they had problems with their site. He offered to sell me tickets by phone, but I declined.
Buying a flight ticket is something that should be done in minutes, not hours.[/QUOTE]Azul website absolutely and totally sucks ass! I gave up and went with GOL. LATAM was way better than Azul but also still kind of glitchy. GOL it's going to be for me!
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Hairy
[QUOTE=Sperto;2946429]I've almost not watched these videos since they were filmed. Specially the beach videos shows a big difference compared to today. The girls were much fitter, less fat people and silicon tits and asses were rare.[/QUOTE]I've looked on some of my 20 hours of videos from the time I studied at PUC in Rio, 1993-1994. About 65 girls got filmed during sessions, all regular girls, and almost all of them were hairy. Back then it was normal. .
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[QUOTE=Sperto;2950283]I've looked on some of my 20 hours of videos from the time I studied at PUC in Rio, 1993-1994. About 65 girls got filmed during sessions, all regular girls, and almost all of them were hairy. Back then it was normal. .[/QUOTE]I don't think hairy bushes bothers some of us who were raised on Penthouse and Playboy bushes. I find it very sexy when a woman has a Bush. It's interesting to hear young men's negative reactions to porn stars who shoot some scenes with a Bush.
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Clam Bake
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2950543]I don't think hairy bushes bothers some of us who were raised on Penthouse and Playboy bushes. I find it very sexy when a woman has a Bush. It's interesting to hear young men's negative reactions to porn stars who shoot some scenes with a Bush.[/QUOTE]It's just easier to get at the clam when all that hair isn't in the way, making it all the more tastier.
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[QUOTE=Sperto;2950283]I've looked on some of my 20 hours of videos from the time I studied at PUC in Rio, 1993-1994. About 65 girls got filmed during sessions, all regular girls, and almost all of them were hairy. Back then it was normal. .[/QUOTE]Personally I prefer shaved pussy because the very sight of a Vulva turns me on. It is mysterious, erotic and beautiful. Plus, as the Cane points out, bare "clam" diving is much more enjoyable and safer (KKK). That said, it is like everything else female. Some girls got beautiful faces, some girls got beautiful ta ta's and bodies, and some girls got beautiful pussies and some girls not so much.
On slender black girls: I was watching "Moonraker" yesterday. Amazon Prime is streaming all the James Bond movies this month, so I am catching up on Roger Moore's contribution to the genre when one of Bond's little helpers came on screen in the Rio de Janeiro part of the movie. The actress's name is Emily Bolton and she is real sexy IMHO. Turns out she is from the Netherlands, although I wonder where her family origins come from, but who cares, she looks Brazilian if you know what I mean, and she is a definitely of a type that I go for.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QM-1mi2G-I[/URL]
Although that said, a few days earlier I watched "the Man with the Golden Gun" and that film starred Britt Ekland in her prime! Super Hot! So now you guys know why I reluctantly dig SP over RJ. I love all sexy, pretty girls, but I have a thing for shaved, slender, Scandallo type Brancas that keeps bringing me back to Brazil. I am hooked and I know it.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg5yklxfy8w&t=168s[/URL]
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PREP & DoxyPEP
A couple of questions for those with experience and knowledge with these medications.
Are STI prevention medications like PREP & Doxycycline sold over-the-counter in Brazil. If not, how long does it typically take to get a prescription through a doctor?
Also, are there any other effective medications any of you use to prevent STIs.
Please PM me if you are not comfortable sharing info here.
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First timer in SP
Good morning all.
Will be enroute to Bolivia, but I decided to do a quick 2-day stopover in SP before I catch a quick flight home. I've never been to Brazil before and you can imagine my portuguese is non-existant (thank you google translate? However, as I do speak spanish I think I will be in a bit better position than someone who has no idea. I'm trying to figure out where to stay. Ill be flying into GRU airport on a Tuesday, and wanting to depart on Thursday. I have the following questions:
Hotels or airbnb? What kind of restriction can I expect when having "visitors" over? Do you have any recommendation on a place? ID like to keep it close to the airport, but if downtown SP is the only way, then ill do that instead. Perhaps going to a motel for my extra-fun times might be the better option? Any recommendations on where to have my "fun" ? That is nearby. And maybe english / spanish speaking friendly? Sites that are considered safe to contact a beautiful lady?
I'm an early 30's male, tall dark and handsome (or so I tell myself LOL) and using my phone to get around should be easy.
I'm still surfing through all the information in this site, so I apologize if I'm asking things that can be easily found, perhaps ill find it as I continue to look around but I figured I'd try asking and maybe get some first-hand experience from some of you.
Thanks in advance!
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;2954954]A couple of questions for those with experience and knowledge with these medications.
Are STI prevention medications like PREP & Doxycycline sold over-the-counter in Brazil. If not, how long does it typically take to get a prescription through a doctor?
Also, are there any other effective medications any of you use to prevent STIs.
Please PM me if you are not comfortable sharing info here.[/QUOTE]I did a quick search in Portuguese. Neither PREP nor DoxyPrep / doxoxycline seem to be available OTC in Brasil.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2955506]I did a quick search in Portuguese. Neither PREP nor DoxyPrep / doxoxycline seem to be available OTC in Brasil.[/QUOTE]Thanks, XXL. I will see a doctor, that's probably much easier option.
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[QUOTE=Luder;2955388]Good morning all.
Will be enroute to Bolivia, but I decided to do a quick 2-day stopover in SP before I catch a quick flight home. I've never been to Brazil before and you can imagine my portuguese is non-existant (thank you google translate? However, as I do speak spanish I think I will be in a bit better position than someone who has no idea. I'm trying to figure out where to stay. Ill be flying into GRU airport on a Tuesday, and wanting to depart on Thursday. I have the following questions:
Hotels or airbnb? What kind of restriction can I expect when having "visitors" over? Do you have any recommendation on a place? ID like to keep it close to the airport, but if downtown SP is the only way, then ill do that instead. Perhaps going to a motel for my extra-fun times might be the better option? Any recommendations on where to have my "fun" ? That is nearby. And maybe english / spanish speaking friendly? Sites that are considered safe to contact a beautiful lady?
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]There's not much action near GRU. I would make the ride into the city, to the more or less tourist areas (which doesn't include "downtown" and get a hotel there for two nights Most of the hotels are visitor-friendly, but best to ask beforehand to make sure. As far as using Spanish, generally they will understand you, but when they reply in Portugues, you'll likely have a hard time understanding them. I'm also a Spanish speaker and that has been my experience. I would just hit one of the better-known boates both nights. You can do the women on site or take out. Or if you're more into daytime action, go to a few Clinicas. Or do both.
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If 2 nites in São Paulo then stay at:
[QUOTE=Luder;2955388]Good morning all.
Will be enroute to Bolivia, but I decided to do a quick 2-day stopover in SP before I catch a quick flight home. I've never been to Brazil before and you can imagine my portuguese is non-existant (thank you google translate? However, as I do speak spanish I think I will be in a bit better position than someone who has no idea. I'm trying to figure out where to stay. Ill be flying into GRU airport on a Tuesday, and wanting to depart on Thursday. I have the following questions:
Hotels or airbnb? What kind of restriction can I expect when having "visitors" over? Do you have any recommendation on a place? ID like to keep it close to the airport, but if downtown SP is the only way, then ill do that instead. Perhaps going to a motel for my extra-fun times might be the better option? Any recommendations on where to have my "fun" ?.I'm still surfing through all the information in this site, so I apologize if I'm
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Gold Star (Motel) Hotel which is a block away from Scandallo Boite with in house rooms.
Or.
Hotel PanAmericano which is a "3 star hotel" directly across the street is Casarao Boite with hourly room next door.
I had luck with English-speakers on both venues and the best part is you can walk back to your Hotel, Rest up and repeat for your 2nd and third Garota!! Make sure to retain your cadastra number so you can return back to the bar without paying additional cover charge for the night.
Sorte!!
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Mailbox is full
Questner, I couldn't respond because of it.
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[QUOTE=Combo;2955686]There's not much action near GRU. I would make the ride into the city, to the more or less tourist areas (which doesn't include "downtown" and get a hotel there for two nights Most of the hotels are visitor-friendly, but best to ask beforehand to make sure. As far as using Spanish, generally they will understand you, but when they reply in Portugues, you'll likely have a hard time understanding them. I'm also a Spanish speaker and that has been my experience. I would just hit one of the better-known boates both nights. You can do the women on site or take out. Or if you're more into daytime action, go to a few Clinicas. Or do both.[/QUOTE]I definitely wish ID understand them more than I'm sure theyll understand me. I have found spanish sounds a little closer to portuguese than the other way around xD I will be bringing my phone with an esim so I do think translating apps will be my best friend LOL I know you didn't mean it that way (I think) but the on site or take out comment had me hollering haha. I have mongered out here in Canada, and most of it has been independent ladies who have their own sites (so contacting via text primarily and setting things up with them) and direct booking has always been my go-to. Clinicas is a new style I'm not used to but I'm willing to give it a try! I do want to check out Scandallo as it's the hot topic of boates on this forum it seems, and just to get that one-time experience would be pretty neat. Ill see what I end up doing but thank you for the recommendations!
[QUOTE=Izl80;2955695]Gold Star (Motel) Hotel which is a block away from Scandallo Boite with in house rooms.
Or.
Hotel PanAmericano which is a "3 star hotel" directly across the street is Casarao Boite with hourly room next door.
I had luck with English-speakers on both venues and the best part is you can walk back to your Hotel, Rest up and repeat for your 2nd and third Garota!! Make sure to retain your cadastra number so you can return back to the bar without paying additional cover charge for the night.
Sorte!![/QUOTE]Thank you for these specific recommendations! It makes it so much easier when I have names to go from to expand the search on them. I'll keep it all in mind! Much gracias.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;2955848]Questner, I couldn't respond because of it.[/QUOTE]Thanks it has been cleaned.
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I read about some members having problem with Uber drivers claiming they didn't get paid, when paying with cash. I always pay Uber (and everything else) with cash. It happened to me twice that Uber drivers claim they didn't get paid. I solved it by contacting Uber. There is an easy way to solve this problem when paying Uber with cash. After you've paid and before you leave the car you ask the driver to "finalizar" (finish the ride). That way he can't claim later that he didn't get paid.
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I've almost finished transferring 380 hours of camcorder recordings (Hi8/ MiniDV) to my PC. All filmed in Brazil during 1992-2010. It's interesting to see how Brazil have changed since then. It's a shame how many cities that used to be pussy heaven turned into tidy and respectable tourist destinations. Specially Fortaleza, Natal and Salvador really lost most of the mongering scenes. As you know Copacabana has changed a lot. Help, Meia Pataca and ho beach were spectacular. The carnival balls with all the girls showing ass, tits and pussy would be impossible today. The girls wouldn't dare being afraid of ending up on the internet. Ho-beach with tons of topless girls was incredible. Today it's too much political correctness and evangelicas. There are no longer cute girls handing out tourist brochures at the airport. Brochures with advertisements from all the major termas.
It's a shame how obesity have spread out in Brazil. Thirty years ago the bodies were so much fitter. Natural bodies without fake tits and asses. I have wondered when the Brazilian girls stopped having hairy pussies. On my recordings there are X hundreds of naked girls. To me it seems like the hairy pussies went out of fashion around 1996. The girls started to tend their bushes, mostly Chaplins and landings strips. Totally shaved wasn't in fashion yet.
I like to protect myself and never bareback any professional girls. Regular girls I only bareback in exceptional cases. Anyway it seems like barebacking was more accepted 30 years ago.
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[QUOTE=Sperto;2961877]I have wondered when the Brazilian girls stopped having hairy pussies. On my recordings there are X hundreds of naked girls. To me it seems like the hairy pussies went out of fashion around 1996. The girls started to tend their bushes, mostly Chaplins and landings strips. Totally shaved wasn't in fashion yet.[/QUOTE]When the people making porno movies told the girls in them to shave.
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[QUOTE=Sperto;2961877]I've almost finished transferring 380 hours of camcorder recordings (Hi8/ MiniDV) to my PC.[/QUOTE]Is the footage for personal viewing only or are you thinking of putting it into the public domain if suitable? I know many people who would be interested in viewing.
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[QUOTE=Jingo10;2961908]Is the footage for personal viewing only or are you thinking of putting it into the public domain if suitable? I know many people who would be interested in viewing.[/QUOTE]Only personal viewing.
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[QUOTE=Sperto;2961877]... I have wondered when the Brazilian girls stopped having hairy pussies. On my recordings there are X hundreds of naked girls. To me it seems like the hairy pussies went out of fashion around 1996. The girls started to tend their bushes, mostly Chaplins and landings strips. Totally shaved wasn't in fashion yet.
...[/QUOTE]Hairy pussies went out of fashion when lesbianism (which they prefer to call bisexuality) came into fashion. Most Brazilian girls nowadays will boast about not being averse to sex with other women. The deterrent to homosexuality is SMELL. Shaving + deodorants are responsible for today's homosexuality pandemics. Bring back the hairs & smell and homosexuality reverts to baseline (3-5% of the population).
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[QUOTE=XXL;2962148]Most Brazilian girls nowadays will boast about not being averse to sex with other women.[/QUOTE]I have dated a shit ton of normal women in Brazil for over 20 years, and none of those that I know of have sex with other women. If you are talking about Brazilian women that are hookers, then you are probably correct. It was nothing to go into 4 X4 and take 2 chicks and have them eating each other out.
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Sperto's posts were among the best if not the best guide for Rio for a whole generation of we few, we happy few.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2961945]Other than complaints, gripes, and personal attacks this guy has shared virtually nothing on ISG for many, many, many years now. So don't hold your breath![/QUOTE]
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Laundry in Brazil
Laundry in Brazil is expensive and bureaucratic. They want your phone number, your name, they enter every piece of laundry into a computer. They stop working on Saturday noon and of course they don't work on Sundays and Holidays. I brought in some laundry on Thursday to pick it up on Saturday and guess what? It was not ready on Saturday. Annoying since I'm switching hotel on Saturday, so I'll have to take a cab back from Cerqueira Cesar to Itaim just to collect my laundry.
Compare with Thailand. In Thailand you pay 60 baht per kilo, that's 12 Reais. You place the bag on a scale, they write down the price on a numbered piece of paper and tell you to "come tomorrow after 2 pm". The next day after 2 pm your laundry is ALWAYS ready. No writing down or entering anything into a computer. They don't want to know your name, they know who you are and what laundry is yours when you show up. If you pay double for "express" (24 Reais / kilo), you get back your laundry within 5 hours. Of course, they work Saturday, Sunday and on Holidays. Everyone in the family toils at the laundry shop 7 days a week, mother, father, son, uncle.
Living for a considerable time in Brazil without having one's own washing machine is a drain on one's budget and a pain in the neck.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2963073]Living for a considerable time in Brazil without having one's own washing machine is a drain on one's budget and a pain in the neck.[/QUOTE]Most apartments for rent in Brazil have laundry machines.
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OMO Lavanderia
[QUOTE=XXL;2963073]Laundry in Brazil is expensive and bureaucratic. They want your phone number, your name, they enter every piece of laundry into a computer. ...[/QUOTE]I have used OMO Lavanderia. They are all over the city, even inside apartment.
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The Brazilian Real is now 6 to the US dollar.
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Relationship Potential
I am a financially fortunate, 70 yo, Caucasian American Widower, who only speaks English. The dream is to find a GF's where the relationship is good on both sides of a closed door. Intelligent, NSA & English speakers are ideal. I don't expect this to be inexpensive. How / Where to find? All intel is most welcome.
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Send me a PM.
Realistically, zero for a relationship.
For sex, though, prives. Look up all of Jimmyboy's post on this site and on gpguia.
[QUOTE=PilotPete;2967666]I am a financially fortunate, 70 yo, Caucasian American Widower, who only speaks English. The dream is to find a GF's where the relationship is good on both sides of a closed door. Intelligent, NSA & English speakers are ideal. I don't expect this to be inexpensive. How / Where to find? All intel is most welcome.[/QUOTE]
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There are alot of so called digital nomads many of whom are women part of the so called passport sisters, under which I include all races, and which include alot of techies and digital nomad leaders, whcih seem to be clustered in copa and ipanema, and I don't like this liberal bullshit coming down to screw up the ecosystem in Brazil which favors we mongers.
PM me and join our whatsapp group for more details. De facto, this website is a more male group and as such is perhaps of addional value especially for we long term users who live here in rio. Keep Brazil safe for men who want to fuck hot young 20 year old women with little cost and hassle.
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[URL]https://youtu.be/EcVjPOe9-3Y?si=JOKF79uBZaE_Q1x1[/URL]
Any thoughts on the macro economics of Brazil now?
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Mining for Gold
Buceta off the beaten path: [URL]https://youtu.be/md9Ieeq4LvE?si=ql1RKKvDsBdxPyja[/URL].
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A New Beginning
I put up a post in the Costa Rica section that some of you guys may be interested in reading. You can access it here:
[POST]2972419[/POST]
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The girl from Ipanema!
The real girl from Ipanema: [URL]https://youtu.be/ct0kxfEsIqU?si=dOynez5ZlOiian2H[/URL].
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2972751]I put up a post in the Costa Rica section that some of you guys may be interested in reading. You can access it here:
[POST]2972419[/POST][/QUOTE]Congratulations on early retirement; keep your Tadalafil close and your Sildenafil closer!
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Lucky
[QUOTE=Agpov;2972993]Congratulations on early retirement; keep your Tadalafil close and your Sildenafil closer![/QUOTE]As luck would have it I don't need any of that. Yet! LOL!
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New Old Monger
I'm old but I'm free now and pondering what places to visit. I'm not a loud music & dancing fan but certainly not opposed to some partying. Ideally I would like to find some other hobbyist to hang with and learn the ropes. Your recommendations are most welcome.
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Centro prives.
Read all of the posts of jimmyboy99.
Get a airbnb near to metro cinelandia.
Go to gparena dot net.
Select the prives section.
Make a list of the top prives and go walk to those prives and fuck in the prives and ask the girls if they will do overnight.
Make sure your room is theft proof, ie, valuables in your safe, etc.
Vagabundo and others will probably meet up with you, eg, at the mcdonalds second floor at metro ururugiaina.
[QUOTE=PilotPete;2973442]I'm old but I'm free now and pondering what places to visit. I'm not a loud music & dancing fan but certainly not opposed to some partying. Ideally I would like to find some other hobbyist to hang with and learn the ropes. Your recommendations are most welcome.[/QUOTE]
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Thank you, Sir.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2973596]Centro prives.
Read all of the posts of jimmyboy99.
Get a airbnb near to metro cinelandia.
Go to gparena dot net.
Select the prives section.
Make a list of the top prives and go walk to those prives and fuck in the prives and ask the girls if they will do overnight.
Make sure your room is theft proof, ie, valuables in your safe, etc.
Vagabundo and others will probably meet up with you, eg, at the mcdonalds second floor at metro ururugiaina.[/QUOTE]
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Logistics
Of course, upon the conclusion of my upcoming trip to Brazil, I will produce a field report for the enjoyment and amusement of the esteemed readership. I might do some spot reporting here and there, but will mostly do what I have always done. Take notes as things develop, and then do a big report upon my return. I don't intend to cover any of the logistics however. The report will be mostly about where I went and who I fucked LOL! But I realize that many readers do appreciate some discussion of logistics, especially newbies, so I'm going to cover that topic here regarding my approaching travels:
[U][B]Getting There and Getting Around[/B][/U]
I will be flying First Class from Dulles to Sao Paulo using United miles. While down there, I will also visit Curitiba, Florianopolis, and of course Rio de Janeiro. I decided to fly from one city to the next. I really wanted to try Azul but their website was absolutely a piece of shit! Couldn't accomplish anything on it, so booked all of my internal flights within Brazil on GOL. For moving about town, I will rely upon Ubers and taxis. I have read how Uber Black is the way to go if you want to be able to count on a driver showing up in Brazil, especially in Rio, so I'll keep that in mind.
[U][B]Lodging[/B][/U]
I prefer the convenience and comfort of hotels. In Sao Paulo, I bit the bullet and decided to try to Wyndham Sao Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Plaza Hotel in Moema. I have always been interested in that hotel, but steered clear of it because of airport noise (it's in the Congonhas flight path). But others here who have stayed there have assured us the hotel is quiet with the windows not letting a lot of sound in. So here goes! I will report back in my experience. Other hotels include the Radisson Hotel (Curitiba), the Blue Tree Premium (Florianopolis), and the Americas Copacabana (Rio). I have not stayed in any of these hotels before, so it will all be new to me.
[U][B]Money Matters[/B][/U]
When I first started going to Brazil many years ago, I used to travel with and mostly purchase with all cash. I'm talking I would have $10,000 in cash on me, and would use a good money exchange place to get reals as I needed them, keeping the balance in the hotel safe. Well, I haven't done that in years and years and years now. Now, I travel with my trusty Schwab card and withdraw money from an ATM as I need some. I remember that Bradesco worked the best for me last time, so I intend to go with them again. And what's great about Schwab is that they refund any and all ATM fees! I also love that you can lock your account. So after pulling some money, you can lock your account so it can't be used until you yourself unlock it again. Love that feature too! The main thing about ATMs in Brazil is just make sure you don't use one on the open street where it would be easy for some crook to mess around with it and steal your money. I will also have plenty of credit cards with me and will occasionally use those at restaurants and also to settle up hotel bills.
[U][B]Communications[/B][/U]
I have the T-Mobile International Plan, which works great overseas for me. I just flip a switch over to roaming, and in short order I have internet connectivity. My plan gives me unlimited data and texting while calls are. 25 cents a minute. I love the T-Mobile International Plan because it just works without a bunch of hassles. You land overseas in a foreign country, and it just works no problems! You turn on roaming and it works! I know some claim to have had problems using T-Mobile abroad, but I never have.
And there you have it! I travel, I eat, I drink, I fuck. And I write. And I'm hungry for more!
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Cane, be careful with the Schwab card lock feature. I also have a Schwab card and I use the account solely to fund my fun. Used to be, a locked card prevented any fraudulent charges and that was that. In the last few years, however, the process has changed and fraudulent charges made while your card is locked will still flag your card for fraud. The result of being flagged for fraud is your card is canceled and you have to get a new card. Always make sure you have a backup funding mechanism or your trip could turn boring very quickly.
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Fraud
[QUOTE=CatBert55;2983149]Cane, be careful with the Schwab card lock feature. I also have a Schwab card and I use the account solely to fund my fun. Used to be, a locked card prevented any fraudulent charges and that was that. In the last few years, however, the process has changed and fraudulent charges made while your card is locked will still flag your card for fraud. The result of being flagged for fraud is your card is canceled and you have to get a new card. Always make sure you have a backup funding mechanism or your trip could turn boring very quickly.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. I will remember to put in a travel notice with them too so they know I'm in Brazil.
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[QUOTE=CatBert55;2983149] Always make sure you have a backup funding mechanism or your trip could turn boring very quickly.[/QUOTE]Good advice CatBert. Without a backup no ATM debit card the worst-case scenario is one ends up drawing down cash from one's credit card account (real no no) and paying greater than 20% interest for the privilege. That is why I always travel with 2 zero ATM charge debit cards; my Schaab debit card (#1) and my Needham checking account debit card (#2). Let the good times always roll!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2983155]Thanks for the heads up. I will remember to put in a travel notice with them too so they know I'm in Brazil.[/QUOTE]All these years I had been doing the travel notice, but recently one board member said he had never done it and nothing ever happened. So I stopped doing it and have the same results. So now not sure what the travel notice is for.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2983232]All these years I had been doing the travel notice, but recently one board member said he had never done it and nothing ever happened. So I stopped doing it and have the same results. So now not sure what the travel notice is for.[/QUOTE]Many credit card companies like Chase and Capital One no longer require a travel notification. The Schwab checking / debit card still does. So just log onto your particular card company's website to make sure.
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Pro Tip
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2983169]Good advice CatBert. Without a backup no ATM debit card the worst-case scenario is one ends up drawing down cash from one's credit card account (real no no) and paying greater than 20% interest for the privilege. That is why I always travel with 2 zero ATM charge debit cards; my Schaab debit card (#1) and my Needham checking account debit card (#2). Let the good times always roll![/QUOTE]I had my ATM swallowed by an ATM machine one time without a backup ATM card. What I did was to just pre pay X amount to a credit card that allowed cash withdrawals with a PIN. And voila, I had X amount of cash available through my credit card without paying interest.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2983232]All these years I had been doing the travel notice, but recently one board member said he had never done it and nothing ever happened. So I stopped doing it and have the same results. So now not sure what the travel notice is for.[/QUOTE]I travel around and I have never done travel notice. It made no difference for me. Maybe it does for some banks but not the ones that I am using.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2983463]I am out all year round and I have never done travel notice. It made no difference for me. Maybe it does for some banks but not the ones that I am using.[/QUOTE]You definitely have to for UK banks. Had one of them block my card on my first trip to Thailand years ago but luckily I took travellers cheques.
Also, when I visited Brazil last year, I used my card to order something online to be delivered the day after I came back, and they text to check it was me otherwise that card would have blocked too. These were two different banks.
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[QUOTE=Kazeu;2983461]I had my ATM swallowed by an ATM machine one time without a backup ATM card. What I did was to just pre pay X amount to a credit card that allowed cash withdrawals with a PIN. And voila, I had X amount of cash available through my credit card without paying interest.[/QUOTE]Interesting! Good advice in an emergency.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2982888]I will be flying First Class from Dulles to Sao Paulo using United miles. [/QUOTE]The answer may seen obvious but which airline?
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United
[QUOTE=Nounce;2983516]The answer may seen obvious but which airline?[/QUOTE]United miles on United Airlines.
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Manscaping!
Oh, you know a trip must be close when The Cane starts to "manscape" his body! Got to make sure to entice a Brasiliera to take a nosedive for them nuts! I know how much a Brasiliera and a Polish girl (yes Polish) likes to suck these here nuts LOLOLOL! I prefer a clean shaven "clam". In return I offer clean shaven nuts to the girls of my choice LMAO! But I'm serious men. Want your nuts sucked? Then you got to get rid of the hair! Works every time.
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Travel Notices
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2983232]All these years I had been doing the travel notice, but recently one board member said he had never done it and nothing ever happened. So I stopped doing it and have the same results. So now not sure what the travel notice is for.[/QUOTE]A lot of credit card companies these days say that you don't need to give them a travel notice since they claim to have the technology required to combat fraud. In fact, for many of them you can't submit a travel notice even if you wanted to. But with Schwab you still can, so I go ahead and do it since I will be relying upon them to pull money from the ATMs. The last thing I want them to do is block my card because they think it's been stolen or hacked by someone in Brazil. It's just an additional precaution. No, that was me the rightful holder of the card!
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2983169]Good advice CatBert. Without a backup no ATM debit card the worst-case scenario is one ends up drawing down cash from one's credit card account (real no no) and paying greater than 20% interest for the privilege. That is why I always travel with 2 zero ATM charge debit cards; my Schaab debit card (#1) and my Needham checking account debit card (#2). Let the good times always roll![/QUOTE]The best solution if you are out of cash or credit card because they got cancelled or stolen. Try to register your debit card, credit card with Western Union. People forget that WU is king when cash is needed, and there are WU everywhere. I used to do this in rural Africa back in the early 2000's. I did this in Argentina to get a favorable exchange as they offer one of the best exchange rates.
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Gulp!
Just what I needed to see. I'll be flying GOL around Brazil: [URL]https://youtu.be/XLoE-zeHxTI?si=fTmO_q9QnzwT48ze[/URL]
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Another Casarao endorsement
Another visit early visit to Casarano for two nights in a row. Arrived around 11.30 pm. It is a black shirt and jeans type of place. There is a strip show on stage which I mostly ignored. A fella or two was pulled out of the crowd to get a public blow job by the strippers in front of the stage 🤷127997;8205;9794;65039;.
I headed for the downstairs bar. The lineup of Garotas was pretty deep. I can get a better sense of the talent in Casarao circulating between the three bars, front back and downstairs. Because of the pricing structure, I consider Casarano a try before "expensive" buying a type of *****house. You can spend quality time talking to a hot Garota, feeling her up during the interview to explore how far she is willing to go in bed. 30 minutes at 300 reais is a good deal to try a test run. The room cost 50 reais. If things are going well I give her 50 reais to go pay at the front desk for another 30 min and negotiate the full hour at 500 or 550 reais. I usually pay the first 300 reais upfront in dinheiro.
I talked to two blonde Brancas both twenty-two years old wearing sexy garter outfits & masks from carnival. There beautiful stunning twenty-one-year-old Morena Garota. None of them were wearing underwear for easy access during the interview.
I like Casarao a fvcking lot — except for the long ass waits for the rooms next door. I try to snag rooms with low numbers 6-11. They are close, with stripper poles, slightly larger room space. No long ass walk to the basement for rooms 20-28 . I prefer larger for duplos sessions.
At Casarao and Scandallos I always take two garotas at the same time. Keep them both for 30 minutes performance or kick out the low-performer. I always ask for their wassap and instagram to stay connected for future sessions.
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Lotus Club
My research is telling me that the Lotus Club in Sao Paulo is closed for good. Can anybody confirm?
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Lotus Club Av. Juscelino Kubitschek, 373
[QUOTE=TheCane;2986914]My research is telling me that the Lotus Club in Sao Paulo is closed for good. Can anybody confirm?[/QUOTE]Gone and the building that housed the club has been torn down.
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Driver
In one of my spot reports, I mentioned that I decided to take an English-speaking taxi driver up on his offer to take me to different clubs around town in Sampa. So far he has proven to be extremely responsive, reliable, and helpful. He typically shows up 15 minutes ahead of the agreed upon pickup time. If anyone is interested hit me up by pm and I can give you his name and number.
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Casarano
Does not show up on the Map?
Address please?
[QUOTE=Tochka;2986882]Another visit early visit to Casarano for two nights in a row. Arrived around 11.30 pm. It is a black shirt and jeans type of place. There is a strip show on stage which I mostly ignored. A fella or two was pulled out of the crowd to get a public blow job by the strippers in front of the stage 🤷127997;8205;9794;65039;.
I headed for the downstairs bar. The lineup of Garotas was pretty deep. I can get a better sense of the talent in Casarao circulating between the three bars, front back and downstairs. Because of the pricing structure, I consider Casarano a try before "expensive" buying a type of *****house. You can spend quality time talking to a hot Garota, feeling her up during the interview to explore how far she is willing to go in bed. 30 minutes at 300 reais is a good deal to try a test run. The room cost 50 reais. If things are going well I give her 50 reais to go pay at the front desk for another 30 min and negotiate the full hour at 500 or 550 reais. I usually pay the first 300 reais upfront in dinheiro.
I talked to two blonde Brancas both twenty-two years old wearing sexy garter outfits & masks from carnival. There beautiful stunning twenty-one-year-old Morena Garota. None of them were wearing underwear for easy access during the interview.
I like Casarao a fvcking lot except for the long ass waits for the rooms next door. I try to snag rooms with low numbers 6-11. They are close, with stripper poles, slightly larger room space. No long ass walk to the basement for rooms 20-28 . I prefer larger for duplos sessions.
At Casarao and Scandallos I always take two garotas at the same time. Keep them both for 30 minutes performance or kick out the low-performer. I always ask for their wassap and instagram to stay connected for future sessions.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2987596]Does not show up on the Map?
Address please?[/QUOTE]After reading the post, I think he means Casarao American Bar located at Rua Augusta, 791.
Maybe the other name was a typo or autocorrect?
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Vagabundo once went to casarao with a ceci clinica girl the night before a embassy function where she was his date. She wanted to compare herself to the talent at Casarao, and it was fun. I stayed at nearby Hotel Story, a very low end love motel which was on booking dot com, and we fucked there. Upon looking up the address, I see it is near by. This is also near by the preferred post mongering day sushi place of the late, great, well loved, and well remembered Alto bom gosto, tako sushi, where there was a fine all you can eat special.
[QUOTE=Ak233;2990562]After reading the post, I think he means Casarao American Bar located at Rua Augusta, 791.
Maybe the other name was a typo or autocorrect?[/QUOTE]
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Casarao American
[QUOTE=Ak233;2990562]After reading the post, I think he means Casarao American Bar located at Rua Augusta, 791.
Maybe the other name was a typo or autocorrect?[/QUOTE]Yes Casarao on Rua Augusta.
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Uber cache
[QUOTE=Tochka;2990697]Yes Casarao on Rua Augusta.[/QUOTE]And now I need to figure out how to clear uber cache and fvcking delete the Rua August address from the Uber cache. Stupid casarao address pops up all the time as the second option on uber suggested places to go. ,the brasilian girlfriend gave me a dirty look to see all places we have never been pop up as uber recommendation messages--I get random uber message on phone at midnight saying its good to time to leave for casarao, low price and four uber X drivers are nearby. Wtf yo. Haha. Busted by uber cache remembering good times at casarao.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;2990710]And now I need to figure out how to clear uber cache and fvcking delete the Rua August address from the Uber cache. Stupid casarao address pops up all the time as the second option on uber suggested places to go. ,the brasilian girlfriend gave me a dirty look to see all places we have never been pop up as uber recommendation messages--I get random uber message on phone at midnight saying its good to time to leave for casarao, low price and four uber X drivers are nearby. Wtf yo. Haha. Busted by uber cache remembering good times at casarao.[/QUOTE]The only way I know it is deleting the app and reinstalling it, LOL.
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After checking with several retail farmácias it appears that prep is distributed by Public health, upa. Free STD tests available too. Any info appreciated.
Another stealth ISG member went to upa and declared himself a risky sex addict and was given all the prep he wanted.
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I guess it is this one:
Casarão Augusta.
Are. Augusta, 791 or 787, Consolação. São Paulo. 15 Garrotas. Prices: Entrance includes drink are $60, Rooms are $40 40 min, are $80 hour. Garrotas: are $ 250 30 min. , are $300 40 min. , are $ 350 Hour, . Hours: 10 pm to _ Tel: +55 11 3256-6162. [URL]https://casaraoaugusta.com.br/[/URL] [URL]https://www.instagram.com/casarao.augusta/?hl=en[/URL].
[QUOTE=Tochka;2990697]Yes Casarao on Rua Augusta.[/QUOTE]
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Trying to Understand the Brazil / Rio Scene
Hello and thanks in Advance for any advice.
New to the site, a friend of my just told me about it and was glad to find a community that seemed intelligent and 'normal', not the YouTube walking Video and updates crowd.
Thinking of a Brazil trip this summer. Was hoping you guys can help with some advice (and if I should post in a specific forum instead of general info, please let me know).
I have read many posts, and I am starting to understand, but hoping to get some answers to more specific questions.
What is a 'privy'? It seems like a spot that girls (by the way what are Garrotas?) post up at and you can go and pick your favorite, but I am trying to understand.
If you meet someone at a privy, can you get their number and see about meeting later either for overnights or just to see them again?
I have found a couple of escort directories, they seem pretty legit. Just curious if that is a good option here or try to stay away from that?
Also, I am thinking about going to Rio. I wanted to do some surfing along with other activities. Where is a good part of town to stay? I like the beach but I can also catch an uber to go surf, so I want to make sure it is somewhere that girls will come back to. I like the vibe in my place, especially if it is someone I like.
Lastly, what is the feeling for visitors in the AirBNBs? I know in some places this can be tough (anyone heard of Columbia?) and you really need to be very clear about bringing back guests, or end up looking for a new spot. Is Brazil, and specifically RIO the same? I don't see the NO GUESTS! On most of the listings I have checked out, so it makes me think maybe is not a big deal (in Mexico for example almost no one cares in most places), but wanted to get the info from others.
Lastly, not sure if anyone will be down there this summer but if you surf, or like soccer (trying to hit up a game at the Macarana) or just like to enjoy good food and drinks, always interested in finding others I can chill with.
Thanks again.
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Send me a PM to. Be added to a local whatsapp group in which I will send you a updated bubba boy's guide.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/surfinnrio/[/URL]
The best surf / ocean swim in rio is here, praia macumba, because an outcropping, pontal, protects from some but not all currents (fins, swim buddies are a must). I will swim when you surf, which I have done, which is awesome. The surfinnrio / longboards is a non pro pick up heaven for 20 year old college age girls. 150 r gets you a socio membership including a locker, sauna, pool, pool table lounge for a month. To get there, take the 553 bus if you are a budget guy. Love this place. I live near there, and will be close when I move, and may move back (my landlord has some issues that makes me need to get off the x).
[QUOTE=SnowNFlow;2991288]Hello and thanks in Advance for any advice.
New to the site, a friend of my just told me about it and was glad to find a community that seemed intelligent and 'normal', not the YouTube walking Video and updates crowd.
Thinking of a Brazil trip this summer. Was hoping you guys can help with some advice (and if I should post in a specific forum instead of general info, please let me know).
I have read many posts, and I am starting to understand, but hoping to get some answers to more specific questions.
What is a 'privy'? It seems like a spot that girls (by the way what are Garrotas?) post up at and you can go and pick your favorite, but I am trying to understand.
If you meet someone at a privy, can you get their number and see about meeting later either for overnights or just to see them again?
I have found a couple of escort directories, they seem pretty legit. Just curious if that is a good option here or try to stay away from that?
Also, I am thinking about going to Rio. I wanted to do some surfing along with other activities. Where is a good part of town to stay? I like the beach but I can also catch an uber to go surf, so I want to make sure it is somewhere that girls will come back to. I like the vibe in my place, especially if it is someone I like.
Lastly, what is the feeling for visitors in the AirBNBs? I know in some places this can be tough (anyone heard of Columbia?) and you really need to be very clear about bringing back guests, or end up looking for a new spot. Is Brazil, and specifically RIO the same? I don't see the NO GUESTS! On most of the listings I have checked out, so it makes me think maybe is not a big deal (in Mexico for example almost no one cares in most places), but wanted to get the info from others.
Lastly, not sure if anyone will be down there this summer but if you surf, or like soccer (trying to hit up a game at the Macarana) or just like to enjoy good food and drinks, always interested in finding others I can chill with.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]
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EVisa woes
So I want to go to Brazil for the first time since the April 10 visa requirement. Based on general Internet research I am not the only person unable to input a passport number in the eVisa online application form. Does anyone have tips or tricks? Thank you in advance.
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A Tragedy Foretold
Who remembers when this happened? I think about it every single time I fly in and out of Congonhas, which is my preferred Sampa airport for domestic flights. Guarulhos is just too far away from the city center. Sao Paulo is more populous than New York City but has one less major airport serving the metro area. Seems to me that the largest city in the entire southern hemisphere and one of the largest in all the world could use another airport to relieve the stress placed on Congonhas.
[URL]https://youtu.be/O-KyF5sw5l0?si=3nMd264kM0fcn5eh[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Knowledge;3000982]So I want to go to Brazil for the first time since the April 10 visa requirement. Based on general Internet research I am not the only person unable to input a passport number in the eVisa online application form. Does anyone have tips or tricks? Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Provide Passport Information: Enter your passport number, issue date, and expiry date exactly as they appear on your passport.
Make sure your passport number is entered without spaces or special characters, exactly as printed on your passport.
[URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-sao-francisco/electronic-visitor-visa-e-visa[/URL]
[URL]https://www.brazilevisas.com/application-form[/URL]
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Thanks, your information seems to be exactly right. I'm suspicious of the whole process because there doesn't seem to be a way around the government's malfunctioning application web site except to pay an extra US $50 to the private visa processing service, or apply via a consulate and wait up to 180 days.
[QUOTE=Questner;3001169]Provide Passport Information: Enter your passport number, issue date, and expiry date exactly as they appear on your passport.
Make sure your passport number is entered without spaces or special characters, exactly as printed on your passport.
[URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-sao-francisco/electronic-visitor-visa-e-visa[/URL]
[URL]https://www.brazilevisas.com/application-form[/URL][/QUOTE]
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Who was there?
No place is safe anymore. Can't even go and have a good time: [URL]https://www.npr.org/2025/05/04/nx-s1-5386457/lady-gaga-copacabana-beach-brazil-free-concert[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Knowledge;3001557]Thanks, your information seems to be exactly right. I'm suspicious of the whole process because there doesn't seem to be a way around the government's malfunctioning application web site except to pay an extra US $50 to the private visa processing service, or apply via a consulate and wait up to 180 days.[/QUOTE]Every country has some hidden issues. I recall getting a Brazilian tax number required an area code, and an input of two zeroes worked. Then there are instances when you have for example to add US before a passport number. I would recommend every frequent traveler to obtain a second etc travel document from another jurisdiction.
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Decent video on some scams in Rio:
[URL]https://youtu.be/PfZH9rxyZcc?si=JjI2UIdAN1x1LkTO[/URL]
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Santander ATM
I verified and was able to withdraw with the Schwab card that the Santander ATM dispenses multiple of R2,500, there is a R20 fee.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/26mhVaTrRCB7n4vb6?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy[/URL]
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Any Condom Opt-Outs?
What is the situation in Brazil regarding compulsion in using the dreaded rubber? Opt-out for a premium? Or genuine persuasion that, as an enlightened senior, one shoots only blanks?
The word 'Privy' raised a smile, as it used to mean a toilet -- often the old-fashioned, outdoor type in pre-1970s Britain -- but now the Brazilian equivalent of a knocking shop or brothel. For a newbie, seeking passion with relative security and moderate cost, which city or state would provide a relatively-painless introduction to the local sex scene? I have been to Colombia but was not very keen. Thanks in advance.
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No issues
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3001557]Thanks, your information seems to be exactly right. I'm suspicious of the whole process because there doesn't seem to be a way around the government's malfunctioning application web site except to pay an extra US $50 to the private visa processing service, or apply via a consulate and wait up to 180 days.[/QUOTE]I was able to get my evisa no problem. The forms took maybe 12 minutes to fill out, was warned about the photo being the right pixel dimensions, but received electronically in 12-13 days. This was about a year ago.
F.
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[QUOTE=Knowledge;3001557]Thanks, your information seems to be exactly right. I'm suspicious of the whole process because there doesn't seem to be a way around the government's malfunctioning application web site except to pay an extra US $50 to the private visa processing service, or apply via a consulate and wait up to 180 days.[/QUOTE]Just got my Brazil Visa via email.
Was actually quite easy.
Took a selfie with a white background. Edited it via their online photo editor, within the application website.
Used an old pic I had of my passport page.
Booked a quick round trip to Brazil, screen shot it, cancelled it afterwards well within refund timeframe.
Paid for it and submitted.
Easy.
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[QUOTE=Trevor2522;3002335]What is the situation in Brazil regarding compulsion in using the dreaded rubber? Opt-out for a premium? Or genuine persuasion that, as an enlightened senior, one shoots only blanks?
For a newbie, seeking passion with relative security and moderate cost, which city or state would provide a relatively-painless introduction to the local sex scene? I have been to Colombia but was not very keen. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]P4 P girls adhere to the use of condoms pretty strictly. Some are willing to bareback for an extra tip. I say on the first encounter the chances of successfully getting BBFS is 30%-40% in places I go to. However that chance increases dramatically on repeats. Of course YMMV.
Best place for a newbie is Rio for the relatively-painless introduction. For seeking passion and best p4 p experience its Sao Paulo.
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Tips on bringing Brazilian pro on vacation
Just came back 2 weeks ago from first trip to Brazil and loved the women. Since I can't go back to Brazil for a bit, I want to invite one of the garotas to meet me in Europe.
I would like advice on how much I should pay and advice on how to set up the behavior I expect. Would love to hear from those who have actually done it and can give advice based on experience.
I want her to hang with me a few days in my hometown, then travel a bit around Italy and probably Spain and Portugal. I want sex sem camisinha 2 x a day and of course I would want a nice fun attitude and no whining.
I only want to bring a girl I've already fucked, which leaves me with these choices. UNLESS you think I can do it successfully without knowing the girl beforehand.
The girls I know:
1 - fantastic girl, sweet and we really had good chemistry, 25 yo. My top choice, but she is replying less and less to my messages and didn't say much to my offer of flying her to Europe, other than saying she was afraid of long flights. So I can't count on her.
2 - Nice enough girl, 22, but very Gen Z. A little moody, a bit quiet, a bit slow to respond to whatsapp, her IG is nothing but anime memes. She seems the most interested. I'm slightly concerned that she wouldn't be 100 percent compliant.
3- Nice girl, 28, a bit dumb but that's probably a bonus. Does not have a passport. Not sure she can get her act together and get an expedited passport in time.
4- a real pro, she's already done 2 tours of Europe working as an independent escort. She would do it but will probably ask too much. She's smart with her money (and good for her).
So any advice is welcome.
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[QUOTE=CherchezFemme;3008407]Just came back 2 weeks ago from first trip to Brazil and loved the women. Since I can't go back to Brazil for a bit, I want to invite one of the garotas to meet me in Europe. So any advice is welcome.[/QUOTE]My advice is to forget about the bright ideas and leave the rides at the carnival.
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[QUOTE=CherchezFemme;3008407]Just came back 2 weeks ago from first trip to Brazil and loved the women. Since I can't go back to Brazil for a bit, I want to invite one of the garotas to meet me in Europe.
I would like advice on how much I should pay and advice on how to set up the behavior I expect. Would love to hear from those who have actually done it and can give advice based on experience.
... [/QUOTE]If she's a pro or some kind of pro it all comes down to how many dollars you can give her per day. If you leave this open-ended, expect things to turn sour.
I invited Brazilian girl I'd known for years to Thailand this year. It didn't go well. She hated Thailand almost from day one. I swore never again to do such a thing.
If you're stuck in Europe with few sex opportunities I understand the temptation though.
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[QUOTE=XXL;3008508]If she's a pro or some kind of pro [/QUOTE]Thanks for the shared experience, that's exactly what I was hoping for.
A girl who hates Thailand ain't my kind of woman.
How did her dislike present itself? She complained? Did she withhold sex? Demand more money?
Although Thailand IS getting worse but that's a subject for a different thread.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3008457]My advice is to forget about the bright ideas and leave the rides at the carnival.[/QUOTE]Maybe, that's why I asked the question. You got any personal experience doing this?
On one hand, it seems like a good idea. Offer the girl a free vacation and some money and give myself a travel companion and easy sex.
On the other hand, it's completely dependent ON HER and we know how unreliable women are.
I've also noticed pros tend to be a) not very smart b) Unable to think or plan more than 12 hours into the future c) not very needy. They get easy money every day they work and they have men worshipping them on the daily. They don't need us really. Not in the short term anyway. If they were craftier they would use their job to secure a high value man.
So really, it's not ideal.
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[QUOTE=CherchezFemme;3008561]Thanks for the shared experience, that's exactly what I was hoping for.
A girl who hates Thailand ain't my kind of woman.
How did her dislike present itself? She complained? Did she withhold sex? Demand more money?
Although Thailand IS getting worse but that's a subject for a different thread.[/QUOTE]She hated the food but she'd been warned about that.
She said staff at restaurants ignored customers, staff at hotels didn't do any proper cleaning. She had a mite allergy and the aircons in TH are notoriously dirty. She never ate any breakfast so I was left to enjoy breakfast on the beach-front restaurant alone.
She refused to ride with me behind on a motorbike, insisting it was dangerous, then she went on to have a fall and hurt her leg because she couldn't ride her own motorbike.
She ran some business in Brazil so she was constantly on the phone.
On the last day (the day when the Earthquake hit Bangkok) she was in tears because she'd just been notified, so she said, that her apartment in SP had been broken into and voided of valuables.
She was right about Thailand (compared to Brazil) but she was had no right to ruin my holiday like she did. Lesson learnt.
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At Cherchez.
I guess my most important tip would be to make sure that you can change the date of her return flight. You don't necessarily have to buy a business class ticket. Economy class tickets have different booking classes with different rules and penalties for any changes.
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Great advice king, thank you.
[QUOTE=Safado70;3008620]At Cherchez.
I guess my most important tip would be to make sure that you can change the date of her return flight. You don't necessarily have to buy a business class ticket. Economy class tickets have different booking classes with different rules and penalties for any changes.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CherchezFemme;3008565]Maybe, that's why I asked the question. You got any personal experience doing this?
On one hand, it seems like a good idea. Offer the girl a free vacation and some money and give myself a travel companion and easy sex.[/QUOTE]No personal experience needed. A smart man learns from his own mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. They are hookers, so you have the easy sex part right. The problem is that due to the easy sex, you want to make her into all kinds of other things that she is not. Why not just get a real girlfriend who actually [B]is[/B] all those other things.
You go to the carnival to have a fun day out. You do not leave there trying to figure out how to build one in your back yard. They are not for everyday personal use. Same as fast food is okay to eat every now and then, but you have seen what happens when people try to live off of it. (You have also seen what happens when people try to turn hookers into housewives.) Hookers are for quick pussy when you do not feel like trying to get to know someone. They are not for extended or normal use.
Take a look at any rap video. The smartest rappers never have girlfriends or wives that look like the chicks in the videos. When they do try it, then it always leads to disaster. Their true mates are the plain looking chicks with the good head on their shoulders who do not have to rent their bodies out.
My best friend has owned a Rolls Royce for years. I have never ridden in it. Hell, I have never even looked inside of it. Whenever we are out he is usually in his everyday driver, which is a Ford utility van. Utility means useful. The RR is not useful and therefore is not something he is driving on a day to day basis when out doing normal shit. Same as hookers are not useful for doing everyday normal shit. You fuck them and let that be it. You get an actual girlfriend who is useful to do everyday normal shit with like be a travel companion.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qp39zD6_cLU&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD[/URL]
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Tipping
Tipping expectations have gotten totally out of hand in Brazil! At least as far dealing with us gringos goes. I was leaving Monte Carlo when the security guard at the door got my attention and held up his phone. On it he had used a translator app to ask for a tip! WTF? First time that had ever happened to me! Now even the damn guards who can't otherwise communicate with you are using smartphones to beg exiting gringos for tips! I indignantly declined and went on along my way. Grrrr!
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Blame it on American gringos
They do it at 4 x4 too. American gringos are to blame 100%.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3009779]Tipping expectations have gotten totally out of hand in Brazil! At least as far dealing with us gringos goes. I was leaving Monte Carlo when the security guard at the door got my attention and held up his phone. On it he had used a translator app to ask for a tip! WTF? First time that had ever happened to me! Now even the damn guards who can't otherwise communicate with you are using smartphones to beg exiting gringos for tips! I indignantly declined and went on along my way. Grrrr![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;3009934]They do it at 4 x4 too. American gringos are to blame 100%.[/QUOTE]I guess it is spreading like a wildfire! Only place I was asked consistently was at Terma / Whiskeria 65 by the doorman and lockers attendant. No such requests from other places, but I am sure I will be hit with them during my future visits.
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Debit card
Anyone seeing cash withdrawal transactions using the most talked about bank debit card in the forum declined at Bradesco ATMs (being declined by Bradesco and not by your bank) in Rio or Sao Paulo?
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Is Rio a good fit for me to visit?
I like small thinner girls in their 20's like in Asia but found plenty to like in Colombia. I love the street girls in the Philippines (but that has ended), Pattaya. Thailand, and several cities in Colombia. Is there much of a street scene at all in Brazil?
Also, love brothels where they show you the girls and you pick a girl and get to business. I hate the buy me endless drink places. Termas / prives / privess are all the same thing which are small brothels? How many girls are there on average per business? How do you find them since they are scattered throughout the city?
Is there an area where there are a bunch of them to get started? I assume Centro area.
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Mongering in Brazil
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3011689]I like small thinner girls in their 20's like in Asia but found plenty to like in Colombia. I love the street girls in the Philippines (but that has ended), Pattaya. Thailand, and several cities in Colombia. Is there much of a street scene at all in Brazil?
Also, love brothels where they show you the girls and you pick a girl and get to business. I hate the buy me endless drink places. Termas / prives / privess are all the same thing which are small brothels? How many girls are there on average per business? How do you find them since they are scattered throughout the city?
Is there an area where there are a bunch of them to get started? I assume Centro area.[/QUOTE]There are girls of every shape, size, and complexion in Brazil. And you're not under pressure to buy drinks. That's one of the things I really like about mongering in Brazil. As to your other questions, you really need to RTFF man. It's all been written before. Check out as many pages of the Reports of Distinction as you can. Then come back asking informed questions.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;3010833]Anyone seeing cash withdrawal transactions using the most talked about bank debit card in the forum declined at Bradesco ATMs (being declined by Bradesco and not by your bank) in Rio or Sao Paulo?[/QUOTE]If I remember right it was my Visa Debit that let me down at Bradesco's in Sao Paulo. I then switched to my Master Credit and got my money. I've noticed my debit card has had a lower success rate all than my credit cards (all over the world), whether at ATMs or for online purchases.
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[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3011689]a bunch of them to get started? I assume Centro area.[/QUOTE]You can use Centro as starting point. What you are looking for is prives which is like casas or 3rd tier termas which is like strip clubs without striping but at night time it will be sketchy. You can find quite a few in-call places in Copacabana from online ads. You are not going to find the quantity you are used to either in SEA or Colombia. The largest casas will be in Sao Paulo like Yankins or Tangara which can have up to 30 in a good day. You will find single digit in most other low end places.
There are street girls in Rio and Sao Paulo but the quantity and quality are dismal. You are not going to find anything remotely close to Medellin
The high end places are superior and you will not have problem finding what you are looking for but at a cost. Brazilians girls are a taller on average. Sao Paulo will be where you want to go.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;3011744] You are not going to find the quantity you are used to either in SEA or Colombia. The largest casas will be in Sao Paulo like Yankins or Tangara which can have up to 30 in a good day. You will find single digit in most other low end places.
There are street girls in Rio and Sao Paulo but the quantity and quality are dismal. You are not going to find anything remotely close to Medellin
The high end places are superior and you will not have problem finding what you are looking for but at a cost. Brazilians girls are a taller on average. Sao Paulo will be where you want to go.[/QUOTE]I like to bang numbers so the largest casas with only 30 girls (in your example) is a joke for me unless many of them are hot which is not very realistic. I hate walking into places with only single digit amounts of girls since most will not be to my liking and then walking out like the girls are not good enough for me. Makes me feel bad and feels like a rather rude thing to do looking at the girls and walking out minutes later. Sounds like too much time wasted finding tons of tiny casas looking at 5-9 women at each one. Then keep returning until an acceptable one magically appears. I am used to 15 girls minimum at bars in Colombia and Asia.
I never read any info about street girls in Brazil so I assumed the girls were few in numbers and older and uglier. Too bad.
Not interested in the high end places. Most of those places in most countries are all the same. More tattoos, long fake nails, more fake tits, less service, and list goes on.
Why is Brazil mentioned all over the web as such an awesome sex scene? Simply because higher chance of anal and the GFE? I always had the impression there were tons of women to choose from (more than Colombia). I am surprised Medellin has more choices on the street scene and the casa scene.
Well Nounce. If what you say is true that kinda sorta makes you an asshole for bursting my bubble and ruining my trip. Actually, helps me a lot. No need to research if the numbers are not available for my 1-2 month visit.
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[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3011794]Why is Brazil mentioned all over the web as such an awesome sex scene? Simply because higher chance of anal and the GFE?[/QUOTE]That was probably true many years ago. Many places have been closed and many have gone online.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3011794]Simply because higher chance of anal and the GFE?[/QUOTE]Let's use the example of casas / prives. The working girls in Brazil will provide GFE and BBBJ while it is much restrictive in Medellin in the same type of establishments. It is a different story if we are are talking about FB, or SGs. Brazil has lower sexual boundary in many areas but not all areas as far as working girls are concerned. It is far easier to get BBFS in Colombia and at much lower cost
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3011794]my 1-2 month visit.[/QUOTE]You rarely see anyone stay that long in Brazil. If you want to come, one strategy it to travel all over the country. The report that mat interest you will be from Epresso (or something like that) and Sperto.
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Still
[QUOTE=Nounce;3011882]That was probably true many years ago.[/QUOTE]With respect to anal that's still true. There isn't a destination in the world better than Brazil for procuring anal sex. But the German FKK scene is quite competitive. Believe this. As an "anal connoisseur" I know.
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ATMs
Getting money from ATMs is annoying in Brazil. In both SP and RJ, none of the bank ATMs I tried accepted international cards. Only Banco24 Horas ATMs have worked for me and offer the lowest withdrawal fee of 24 R (if your bank charges one). The withdrawal max for one transaction is 1,000 R.
Do not use the blue ATMs that say 24 h (I forgot the full name) because they have both a withdrawal fee of 49 R and an additional surcharge that is a percentage of the amount. For 1,900 R they wanted a surcharge of 251 R. Talk about a ripoff.
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[QUOTE=VoodooJones;3012261]Getting money from ATMs is annoying in Brazil. In both SP and RJ, none of the bank ATMs I tried accepted international cards. Only Banco24 Horas ATMs have worked for me and offer the lowest withdrawal fee of 24 R (if your bank charges one). The withdrawal max for one transaction is 1,000 R.
Do not use the blue ATMs that say 24 h (I forgot the full name) because they have both a withdrawal fee of 49 R and an additional surcharge that is a percentage of the amount. For 1,900 R they wanted a surcharge of 251 R. Talk about a ripoff.[/QUOTE]I've always used Bradesco and never had any issues. No withdrawal fee too.
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[QUOTE=XXL;3011696]If I remember right it was my Visa Debit that let me down at Bradesco's in Sao Paulo. I then switched to my Master Credit and got my money. I've noticed my debit card has had a lower success rate all than my credit cards (all over the world), whether at ATMs or for online purchases.[/QUOTE]I used Visa debit card at Bradesco ATMs in SP and Rio without any issue for the last 6 years until last month. Strange thing is that all my cash withdrawals last month were approved by my bank but were declined by Bradesco in multiple cities.
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[QUOTE=VoodooJones;3012261]Getting money from ATMs is annoying in Brazil. In both SP and RJ, none of the bank ATMs I tried accepted international cards. Only Banco24 Horas ATMs have worked for me and offer the lowest withdrawal fee of 24 R (if your bank charges one). The withdrawal max for one transaction is 1,000 R.
Do not use the blue ATMs that say 24 h (I forgot the full name) because they have both a withdrawal fee of 49 R and an additional surcharge that is a percentage of the amount. For 1,900 R they wanted a surcharge of 251 R. Talk about a ripoff.[/QUOTE]I am not sure which bank's debit card you are using. You should consider getting an account with Schwab, Capital One or some other reputable bank that doesn't charge foreign transaction fee and refunds ATM fees.
I have used Bradesco or Santander banks, and they are very reliable. Most of their ATMs charge 20 are and very a few here and there may charge 50 are (just find another ATM with lower fee). Never ever accept the currency option provided by ATMs or credit card machines anywhere in the world, just decline and let you bank decide the exchange rate which usually is very close to the exchange rate (it is the case with Schwab, CapitalOne and other reputable banks).
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;3012291]I am not sure which bank's debit card you are using. You should consider getting an account with Schwab, Capital One or some other reputable bank that doesn't charge foreign transaction fee and refunds ATM fees.
I have used Bradesco or Santander banks, and they are very reliable. Most of their ATMs charge 20 are and very a few here and there may charge 50 are (just find another ATM with lower fee). Never ever accept the currency option provided by ATMs or credit card machines anywhere in the world, just decline and let you bank decide the exchange rate which usually is very close to the exchange rate (it is the case with Schwab, CapitalOne and other reputable banks).[/QUOTE]I have Charles Schwab, I added the fees for informational purposes. And it didn't work at the local Bradesco. When I called CS, they didn't even see an attempt to access the card at that ATM or any of the others I had tried (didn't try Santander, but I assume they would be better because they're in the US). Some ATMs spit out my card a few seconds after I inserted it, saying the number was invalid or it was expired. I went to Banco24 Horas right after the call and got cash. The blue 24 h ATM I mentioned in my previous post was there too and I tried my card successfully just to see if it worked, but obviously didn't take money out due to the surcharge they add if you decline their conversion rate.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;3011882]You rarely see anyone stay that long in Brazil. If you want to come, one strategy it to travel all over the country. The report that mat interest you will be from Epresso (or something like that) and Sperto.[/QUOTE]If they had enough new women to try out I would stay longer like the other countries I had visited. For outdoorsy stuff I go to the Philippines. They have so many islands, beaches, and waterfalls that I love.
Had a question but your box if full.
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[QUOTE=VoodooJones;3012409]I have Charles Schwab, I added the fees for informational purposes. And it didn't work at the local Bradesco. When I called CS, they didn't even see an attempt to access the card at that ATM or any of the others I had tried (didn't try Santander, but I assume they would be better because they're in the US).[/QUOTE]I had exactly same experience with Santander ATM in Sao Paolo.
BTW, I was in Brazil month ago, and several days ago my bank declined several transactions originated in Brazil. They waited one month and when tried to use my card.
I used my card only in clubs and respectable restaurants. For my next trip, I am thinking about temporary debit card, which I can cancel after leaving Brazil.
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[QUOTE=Guest19;3012492]I had exactly same experience with Santander ATM in Sao Paolo.
BTW, I was in Brazil month ago, and several days ago my bank declined several transactions originated in Brazil. They waited one month and when tried to use my card.
I used my card only in clubs and respectable restaurants. For my next trip, I am thinking about temporary debit card, which I can cancel after leaving Brazil.[/QUOTE]I think you are talking about 2 different issues here. 1. the debit card and SP ATM cash withdrawals and 2. CC risks / exposures.
On debit card cash withdrawals: use the "Schwab, Capital One or some other reputable bank {debit card} that doesn't charge foreign transaction fee and refunds ATM fees" as Lalabo recommends. I always bring 2 debit cards with me on a trip just in case; my Schwab and Needham zero fee debit cards. My best cash withdrawal experiences are with large Bradesco banks like the one on Av. Brig. Faria Lima, 2157 across the street from the ritzy Iguatemi Shopping mall and the ATM machines found inside the Grand Hyatt and the Marriott Executive Apartment Hotel. If you are staying at these 2 hotels you won't need to go to the bank. Oy yeah, I never use my debit card for purchases.
On CC usage: I always bring several favorite CC's on a trip and I CHARGE everything which eliminates the need to carry large amounts of cash and fumble around with small denominations. The only item I still use cash for are the girls. I want my girls to see exactly where the money is coming from, ME.
On CC risks: you post, "They waited one month and when tried to use my card. "So, what's the problem? You CC did exactly what it is supposed to do; protect the consumer. I assume that you reported the fraudulent activity on your card to your bank as soon as you became aware of it and I am equally sure that your CC bank's response was to immediately freeze your CC account and credit your account for the false charges. This is one of the main reasons to use CC's aside from the convenience. The CC has your back. Just be sure to bring several on your trips in case one of your cards gets targeted.
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[QUOTE=Guest19;3012492]I had exactly same experience with Santander ATM in Sao Paolo.
BTW, I was in Brazil month ago, and several days ago my bank declined several transactions originated in Brazil. They waited one month and when tried to use my card.
I used my card only in clubs and respectable restaurants. For my next trip, I am thinking about temporary debit card, which I can cancel after leaving Brazil.[/QUOTE]I only load up my Charles Schwab debit card when I'm traveling. After this trip, I'll move the money back into my primary bank account.
But that sucks about Santander. It looks like it's a mixed bag and depends on which branch you actually go to instead of just the bank itself. Good news is that the ATM that always worked for me is pretty common in RJ, so I can walk to one when needed.
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[QUOTE=Guest19;3012492]...
BTW, I was in Brazil month ago, and several days ago my bank declined several transactions originated in Brazil. They waited one month and when tried to use my card.
I used my card only in clubs and respectable restaurants. For my next trip, I am thinking about temporary debit card, which I can cancel after leaving Brazil.[/QUOTE]Another thing you can do is to never use the physical card, but use instead the card in digital form through Google Wallet (or Apple Pay). NFC smartphone payment without the physical card is considered very safe because the card details are not transmitted.
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[QUOTE=XXL;3012612]Another thing you can do is to never use the physical card, but use instead the card in digital form through Google Wallet (or Apple Pay). NFC smartphone payment without the physical card is considered very safe because the card details are not transmitted.[/QUOTE]If you use the chip or tap to pay, your card details are not collected by the machine. Just like Apple Pay, these two methods use a one-time code to transmit payment. Only if you swipe does your number get collected.
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[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3012422]If they had enough new women to try out I would stay longer like the other countries I had visited. For outdoorsy stuff I go to the Philippines. They have so many islands, beaches, and waterfalls that I love.[/QUOTE]Traveling around will make up for the quantity as you can find girls all over the country.
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The Economist on Brazil.
What are the implications for security for foreigners in Brazil?
The Americas.
Faded dreams.
Brazil's president is losing clout abroad and unpopular at home.
Luiz Inácio Lula the Silva put Brazil on the map, but he hasn't adapted to a changed world.
Jul 3rd 2025.
São Paulo.
On June 22nd, hours after the United States struck Iranian nuclear sites with huge bunker-buster bombs, Brazil's foreign ministry put out a statement. It said that Brazil's government "strongly condemns" the American attack, which it called a "violation of Iran's sovereignty and international law". This strength of language put Brazil at odds with Western democracies, which either supported the strikes or merely expressed concern.
Brazil's friendliness with Iran is set to continue on July 6th and 7th when the BRICS, a group of 11 emerging-market economies including Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, holds a summit in Rio de Janeiro. Iran, which became a member of the BRICS in 2024, is expected to send a delegation. The club is currently chaired by Brazil's president, Luiz Inácio Lula the Silva, known as Lula. Originally, being a member gave Brazil a platform for global influence. Increasingly, it makes Brazil look hostile to the West.
"The more China transforms the BRICS into an instrument of its foreign policy, and the more Russia uses the BRICS to legitimise its war in Ukraine, the harder it will be for Brazil to keep saying it is non-aligned," says Matias Spektor of FGV, a university in São Paulo.
Brazil's diplomats are trying to avoid the problem by focusing the summit on innocuous themes. These include co-operation on health care; the green-energy transition; and maintaining most-favoured nation status, in which countries treat members of the World Trade Organisation equally, as the basis for international trade. They want to avoid chatter on a subject America's president, Donald Trump, hates: a BRICS-led effort to settle trade in local currencies rather than the dollar. As for the Iranians, Brazil's diplomats would probably prefer it if they stayed quiet. "We are in a moment of damage containment more than a moment of creating new instruments," says a senior one.
Brazil's role at the heart of an expanded and more authoritarian-dominated BRICS is part of Lula's increasingly incoherent foreign policy. He has made no effort to forge ties with the United States since Donald Trump took office in January. There is no record of the two men ever meeting in person, making Brazil the largest economy whose leader has not shaken hands with America's president. Instead, Lula courts China. He has met Xi Jinping, China's president, twice in the past year.
Perhaps Lula's most sensible tack has been an attempt to take advantage of the world's loss of trust in America as a trade partner. He has cosied up to Europe and expanded commercial ties. In March he visited Japan, which imports most of its beef from the United States, to promote Brazilian meat. His ministers have met Chinese bureaucrats to discuss ways to increase Brazilian agricultural imports, probably instead of American ones.
But this comes with grandiosity which outruns Brazil's heft. In May Lula was the only leader of a big democracy to attend Russia's commemorations of the end of the second world war. He tried to convince Vladimir Putin that Brazil should mediate an end to the war in Ukraine. Neither Mr Putin nor anyone else listened.
There is little pragmatism closer to home either. Lula does not speak to his Argentine counterpart, Javier Milei, because of ideological differences. When he took office for the third time, in 2023, he embraced Nicolás Maduro, Venezuela's autocrat, despite the country having become a full-fledged dictatorship. Having led the UN mission to stabilize Haiti after an earthquake devastated the country in 2010, Brazil now does little as it collapses into a gangster-run hellscape. Lula appears unwilling or unable to rally neighbors to present a united front against Mr Trump's migrant deportations and tariff war.
In a letter sent to The Economist after this story was first published online, Brazil's foreign minister, Mauro Vieira, pushed back on the idea of foreign-policy incoherence. Among other things, he noted that while chairing the G20 last year Lula "succeeded in the daunting task of promoting consensus among its members, while managing to launch a broad global alliance against hunger and poverty". Mr Viera also said that a "bold proposal for taxing billionaires", put forward at the G20, "may have disturbed a few oligarchs".
Navigating the world stage is made harder by Lula's slipping popularity. During his first two terms, from 2003 to 2010, Brazil reaped the rewards of a commodity boom and he was one of the world's most popular leaders. His domestic strength lent him credibility abroad, and many of his peers saw him as a figurehead for fast-developing economies.
Now the country has shifted to the right. Many Brazilians associate his Workers' Party with corruption after a scandal that saw Lula jailed for over a year (his conviction was later annulled). He built the party on support from trade unions, Catholics and poor recipients of government handouts. In Brazil today evangelical Christianity is booming, employment in agriculture and the gig economy is growing fast, and the right offers handouts too.
Lula's personal approval ratings hover around 40%, the lowest at any point during his three terms. Only 28% of Brazilians say they approve of his government.
Meanwhile, Mr Trump's MAGA movement is closely aligned with Brazil's hard right, led by Jair Bolsonaro, a former president who styles himself a tropical Trump. Mr Bolsonaro is likely to be jailed soon for allegedly plotting a coup to remain in power after losing an election in 2022. He is yet to anoint a successor. But if he does so and the right rallies around that person ahead of the election in 2026, the presidency will be theirs to lose.
Mr Trump freely criticizes other leaders who are much friendlier than Lula. Yet he has said almost nothing about Brazil since taking office in January. That may be because Brazil benefits from something no other large emerging economy possesses: a whopping trade deficit with the United States, amounting to $30 bn in goods and services a year. Mr Trump certainly likes it when other countries buy more from the United States than they sell into it.
But his silence may also be due to the fact that on the most pressing geopolitical matters, like war in Ukraine or the Middle East, Brazil is simply not very important. Lula should stop pretending that it is, and concentrate on matters closer to home.
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How to ask for bareback by whatsapp.
Vagabundo is glad to be your ai chatbot, haha.
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[URL]https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2025/07/31/donald-trumps-unprecedented-attack-on-brazils-judiciary[/URL]
The Americas.
A new assault.
Donald Trump's unprecedented attack on Brazil's judiciary.
He has placed sanctions on the judge leading the prosecution of Jair Bolsonaro, his ideological ally.
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Alexandre de Moraes buttoning up his suit.
Button down the hatchesPhotograph: Dado Galdieri / The New York Times / Redux / Eyevine.
Jul 31st 2025.
São Paulo.
6 min read.
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"Let this be a warning to those who would trample on the fundamental rights of their countrymen," Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state, posted on X, a social-media service, on July 30th. The would-be human-rights trampler was Alexandre de Moraes, a Brazilian Supreme Court judge. The warning came in the form of sanctions placed on Mr Moraes under the Global Magnitsky Act, freezing his assets in American banks and prohibiting him from entering the United States.
The Magnitsky Act punishes foreign officials for "gross violations of internationally recognised human rights". It has previously been used against genocidal Burmese generals and Russian officials who murdered political dissidents. Mr Moraes has done nothing like that. His most noteworthy act is leading the prosecution of Jair Bolsonaro, Brazil's far-right former president and ally of Donald Trump, who will soon stand trial on charges of plotting a coup to overturn an election he lost in 2022, which he denies.
Targeting a sitting judge in a functioning democracy is unprecedented. The sanctions come days after the State Department revoked the visas of most justices on Brazil's Supreme Court and other officials connected to Mr Bolsonaro's prosecution. In justifying the sanctions Scott Bessent, the treasury secretary, claimed that Mr Moraes was carrying out "an unlawful witch-hunt against US and Brazilian citizens and companies".
Bearing down on Brazil.
After the sanctions were announced, Mr Trump signed an executive order placing tariffs of 50% on many Brazilian imports from August 6th. In the order he cited the "politically motivated persecution, intimidation, harassment, censorship, and prosecution" of Mr Bolsonaro. He did not mention trade imbalances, the usual justification for tariffs, perhaps because Brazil runs a deficit with the United States.
Mr Moraes has been at loggerheads with the Trump administration and its allies since 2019. That year, the court opened what would become known as "the fake-news inquiry" to investigate misinformation on social media that affected "the honour and security of the Supreme Court and its members". The probe was controversial from the beginning. Brazil does not have a legal definition of misinformation. By investigating, prosecuting and ruling on threats against itself, the Supreme Court demonstrated its excessive powers. Mr Moraes was appointed to lead the inquiry, bypassing the usual lottery system.
The probe was meant to last less than a year. Instead, it continues six years later and its remit has expanded to include online disinformation about Brazil's democratic institutions. The probe is sealed, so it is unclear how many social-media accounts Mr Moraes has ordered to be taken down, or why. In April 2024 the judiciary committee of the US Congress published a report showing that Mr Moraes had ordered X to remove at least 88 accounts since 2019, usually without providing justification. In February, Mr Trump's media group and Rumble, a video-sharing platform, sued Mr Moraes, alleging that because his rulings affected Brazilians in the United States, they constituted overreach.
None of Mr Moraes's actions have been illegal on Brazilian terms. He is empowered by Brazil's constitution, one of the world's longest, which covers everything from health care to wages. It also allows Brazil's president, state governors, the country's bar association, trade unions, political parties and other groups to file lawsuits directly with the Supreme Court, instead of having them filter up from lower bodies. The court's 11 justices issued over 114,000 rulings last year alone. To deal with this caseload, individual judges are allowed to make far-reaching decisions. This gives Mr Moraes and his colleagues on the bench enormous power, especially in areas where Brazil's Congress has not legislated. Since it has yet to pass a law regulating social media, much of the enforcement has fallen to the court.
Brazilian speech law is more restrictive than that in the United States. It prohibits discrimination based on race, gender, sexual orientation, religion or "physical or social condition". Penalties for slander, defamation and libel are higher when made against public officials. In 2021, while Mr Bolsonaro was in office, Congress passed a law penalising "crimes against democracy" that include "restricting the exercise of constitutional powers" through serious threats or force. Equipped with this cocktail of laws, Mr Moraes has gone after Mr Bolsonaro and some of his fans.
With flowers on a Sunday.
Those who decry Mr Moraes's pursuit of Mr Bolsonaro seem to ignore the evidence in his prosecution. Bolsonaristas attacked government buildings on January 8th, 2023, after their leader falsely claimed that voting machines had been rigged against him. Mr Bolsonaro's allies make the riot sound like a tea-party. "It was done by old ladies, with Bibles, with flowers, with flags, by the elderly, by children, without tanks, without leaders, on a Sunday," says Rogério Marinho, a senator for Mr Bolsonaro's party. Any cursory search of the riot shows that it was a vandalistic orgy. On December 12th, 2022, when President Luiz Inácio Lula the Silva's victory was certified by Brazil's electoral court, Mr Bolsonaro's supporters set buses and cars alight in Brasilia, the capital. On Christmas Eve one man strapped a bomb to a fuel truck near Brasilia's airport, but it failed to go off.
Mr Bolsonaro's inner circle allegedly considered more thuggish actions to stay in power. According to federal police, his deputy chief of staff, Mario Fernandes, produced a plot to assassinate or kidnap Mr Moraes as well as Lula, as the president is known, and his running-mate before they could take office. The plan was allegedly printed out several times at the presidential palace in the last days of Mr Bolsonaro's administration. It listed weapons to be used, including rifles, machineguns, grenade launchers and anti-tank rocket launchers, as well as chemical weapons to kill Lula in hospital, where he was getting check-ups. On July 24th Mr Fernandes admitted in court that he was the author of the document, but called it a habitual "risk analysis" and claimed that he had printed it out to avoid straining his eyes. He said that he did not share it with anybody.
Police also allege that lawyers close to Mr Bolsonaro drew up a decree that would have called a bogus state of emergency to in effect annul the 2022 election. On June 10th Mr Bolsonaro admitted before the Supreme Court that he had called meetings in the presidential palace to discuss the possibility of declaring a state of emergency after losing the vote. He said he quickly abandoned the idea, which received pushback from generals.
Messrs Rubio, Trump and Bessent may think that putting pressure on Mr Moraes will liberate Mr Bolsonaro. Yet their novel use of the Magnitsky Act could backfire. Lula now frames the Bolsonaro clan as "traitors". Most Brazilians agree. Mr Moraes, who is accustomed to receiving death threats, is hard to intimidate. On the day the sanctions were announced he flew to São Paulo to watch his favourite football team play a match.
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[URL]https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2025/07/24/trumps-astonishing-battering-of-brazil[/URL]
The Americas.
Dear Donald, thanks! Yours, Lula.
Trump's astonishing battering of Brazil.
MAGA bullying is backfiring, boosting Lula's government.
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A collage of images of Donald Trump, Eduardo Bolsonaro, Jair Bolsonaro, Luiz Inácio Lula the Silva and Alexandre de Moraes.
Illustration: Ricardo Santos.
Jul 24th 2025.
São Paulo.
5 min read.
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Rarely since the end of the cold war has the United States interfered so deeply with a Latin American country. On July 9th Donald Trump pledged tariffs of 50% on Brazilian exports, citing a "witch hunt" against Jair Bolsonaro, the far-right former president, who is soon due to stand trial for allegedly plotting a coup, a charge he denies. On July 15th Jamieson Greer, the United States trade representative, started investigating Brazil's trade practices. On July 18th the US State Department revoked the visas of most Brazilian Supreme Court judges and other officials connected to Mr Bolsonaro's prosecution. Marco Rubio, the secretary of state, has said he wants to use the Global Magnitsky Act to place sanctions on Alexandre de Moraes, a prominent justice, an action usually reserved for dictators and warlords.
Mr Trump and Brazil's president, Luiz Inácio Lula the Silva, are ideological foes and Mr Trump's allies have long decried a probe Mr Moraes leads into online disinformation. Yet the trigger for Mr Trump's attack appears to have been the summit of the BRICS, a group of emerging-market countries, that Brazil hosted on July 6th and 7th. Lula, as the president is known, has called the threats "unacceptable blackmail" and an attack on Brazil's sovereignty. He also threatened to start taxing American technology companies. Brazil's Congress, which is controlled by right-wing parties, has rallied around Lula and is mulling retaliatory tariffs.
But Lula saved his venom for Mr Bolsonaro and his son, Eduardo, a congressman, who took leave from his job in March and moved to Texas, where he has been lobbying Republican congressmen to put sanctions on Mr Moraes. Lula has called them "traitors". "Let them be ashamed, hide in their cowardice, and let this country live in peace!" he told a rally on July 17th. Instead of rebutting the charge, Eduardo boasts about his access to the White House. After Mr Moraes's visa was revoked, he posted on X: "I can't see my father, and now there are Brazilian officials who won't be able to see their families in the US either!
Brazil's powerful Supreme Court has responded aggressively, too. On July 18th Mr Moraes ordered Mr Bolsonaro to wear an electronic ankle monitor, confined him to house arrest during nights and weekends, and barred him from speaking to foreign officials or giving interviews. On July 19th Mr Moraes froze Eduardo's assets as part of an investigation into whether his lobbying efforts are an attempt to obstruct the case against his father.
If drawing Mr Trump's ire was supposed to bolster Brazil's right ahead of a general election next year, the plan is backfiring. Brazilians of all stripes are backing Lula. Effigies of Mr Trump have been burned on the streets. Lula's approval rating, which had been flagging, has perked up. He now leads the field of potential candidates for next year's race.
Mr Trump's tariffs have also given Lula an "incredible get-out-of-jail-free card", says Andre Pagliarini of the Washington Brazil Office, a think-tank. "Whatever economic pain Brazil is likely to feel between now and the election, the government can credibly point to the Trump tariffs as the cause, whether it's true or not. ".
In fact, the tariffs may cause pain for Mr Bolsonaro and his right-wing allies. Only 13% of Brazil's exports go to the United States, worth $43 bn a year (some 28% go to China, a share likely to grow if Mr Trump's tariffs are enacted). Goldman Sachs, a bank, reckons tariffs may lower growth by 0. 4 of a percentage point to around 2% this year. Yet the impact is likely to fall disproportionately on companies based in regions that are Bolsonaro strongholds. More than a third of unroasted coffee beans imported into the United States come from Brazil. The vast majority of imported orange juice comes from Brazil, too. Beef imports are growing fast. Economists at the Federal University of Minas Gerais reckon that some 110,000 Brazilians will lose their jobs if the tariffs come into effect, mostly in agriculture. It is telling that Brazil's national confederation of farmers, usually a Bolsonaro stalwart, condemned the "political nature" of Mr Trump's tariffs. Even Mr Bolsonaro has tried to distance himself. He says the tariffs have "nothing to do with us".
Brazilians are particularly riled by the idea that the Trump administration may go after Pix, the popular instant-payments system launched by the central bank in 2020. This was not threatened explicitly, but Mr Greer included "electronic payment services" on a list of Brazilian practices his office deems "unreasonable or discriminatory" to American firms. "The idea that Pix represents an unfair trade practice against the US is unfounded," says Ralf Germer of PagBrasil, a leading Brazilian payments processor. Pix has spurred competition in Brazil's previously fusty banking sector by offering low-cost infrastructure whereby upstart firms can easily provide financial services. That increased competition has also undercut American payment firms like Visa and Mastercard.
Complaints about unfair trade practices have merit. Brazil is one of the world's most closed economies, with 86% of imports facing non-tariff barriers (as do 77% of imports to the United States and 72% of imports globally). Domestic industry receives endless bungs from the federal and local government. But if this is Mr Trump's real concern, he has not said so. Brazil's government has been attempting to contact the White House since May in order to negotiate a trade deal, but their entreaties have been ignored.
Only Eduardo Bolsonaro, it seems, has Mr Trump's ear. "Trump is someone I admire, someone I look up to, someone I want to get to know better so that, who knows, maybe in the future, if I have power, I can follow in his footsteps in Brazil," he says, speaking by video call from his office in Texas, which is adorned with MAGA hats and crucifixes.
Lula appears reinvigorated by the feud. He now wears a blue cap that says "Brazil belongs to Brazilians. " But a former Brazilian diplomat says Lula's officials worry that the boost may not last. If tariffs come into force and economic pain sets in, Lula will struggle to lay all of the blame with Mr Bolsonaro. The question is which 79-year-old will back down first: the impetuous Mr Trump or the strong-willed Lula. ■.
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Further to this:
[URL]https://youtu.be/Pv2hwXy-Mis?si=SWjaZNTc94LE69mE[/URL]
Vagabundo's view is that this will also deter any foreigner from considering buying property in Brazil.
Here is some more good analysis from a friend: I think Brazilians can be very nationalist and, if Trump gets too much more belligerent to the point where everyday Brazilians are feeling pinched, anti-American sentiment could begin to pour out into the streets and potentially into our everyday transactions with working girls, property owners, and other businesses that we deal with for larger transactions. Furthermore, the bureaucracy could become tougher for American expats to navigate, as restrictions or added fees could be tacked on to their daily lives, including visa fees, rents, taxes and*other*services.
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Dear Donald, thanks! Yours, Lula.
Trump's astonishing battering of Brazil.
MAGA bullying is backfiring, boosting Lula's government.
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A collage of images of Donald Trump, Eduardo Bolsonaro, Jair Bolsonaro, Luiz Incio Lula the Silva and Alexandre de Moraes.
Illustration: Ricardo Santos..[/QUOTE]
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4th kind of credit card terminal
Found the 4th kind in an African restaurant in Sao Paulo. The owner is from Africa but the food tasted very similar to Brazilian.
I notice that the currency selection comes up more often if I use watch of phone to pay for it.
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Vitoria beatriz
Anybody has infos on how this 28 yo pornstar died last month? This is heartbreaking.
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[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;3024715]Anybody has infos on how this 28 yo pornstar died last month? This is heartbreaking.[/QUOTE]Cerebral edema and heart complications.
[URL]https://revistamonet.globo.com/noticias/noticia/2025/08/estrela-brasileira-de-filmes-adultos-morre-aos-28-anos-dias-apos-familia-pedir-por-oracoes.ghtml[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Questner;3024752]Cerebral edema and heart complications.
[URL]https://revistamonet.globo.com/noticias/noticia/2025/08/estrela-brasileira-de-filmes-adultos-morre-aos-28-anos-dias-apos-familia-pedir-por-oracoes.ghtml[/URL][/QUOTE]Unfortunately, the life expectancy of a female adult entrainer, especially a pornstar, is very low comparted to general female population. I wonder why?
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;3024765]Unfortunately, the life expectancy of a female adult entrainer, especially a pornstar, is very low comparted to general female population. I wonder why?[/QUOTE]Hookers are even not insurable due to occupation. Brazil has meticulous records with respect to sex workers, so you can download and study them. Drugs and violence are main reasons. Some may enter the industry with pre-existing conditions. I have witnessed both above problems.
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Vitoria beatriz
[QUOTE=Lalabo;3024765]Unfortunately, the life expectancy of a female adult entrainer, especially a pornstar, is very low comparted to general female population. I wonder why?[/QUOTE]I red the medical report but it does not say the primary cause of her death; it coud be suicide, aids, drugs.
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Nightfall
Interesting documentary on when the sun goes down in Rio: [URL]https://youtu.be/WAAwqbb3fL0?si=iR79QX8_otqvU2ko[/URL]
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That's a good video, thanks.
What do you think of this, especially in light of Venezuelan USA Navy deployments.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlVHW2K6js[/URL]
I am unblocking you for long enough for our favorite honey trap to show up on the balcony of ISG member Tavares, who is due back in October so we can have a civilized lunch at Cais do Oriente.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3025200]Interesting documentary on when the sun goes down in Rio: [URL]https://youtu.be/WAAwqbb3fL0?si=iR79QX8_otqvU2ko[/URL][/QUOTE]
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Around Brazil
This video is quite informative for those of you considering visiting other cities in Brazil besides the "big two". I have been to 5 cities in Brazil (Salvador will be no. 6): Rio, Sampa, Porto, Curitiba, and Floripa. If I had to pick one from my list to live in it would be Curitiba: [URL]https://youtu.be/3ecTAqjzFaM?si=0FFL3NVNkLWhmYAv[/URL].
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I'm buying some domestic tickets. Mainly looking at GOL, Latam and Azul. It's impressive that Latam survives without making their website working better. It's so worthless. Luckily GOL is working well and often have the best prices.
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[QUOTE=Sperto;3025695]I'm buying some domestic tickets. Mainly looking at GOL, Latam and Azul. It's impressive that Latam survives without making their website working better. It's so worthless. Luckily GOL is working well and often have the best prices.[/QUOTE]As said GOL website works better than Latam website as the latter isn't working at all. Still GOL website has some issues.
Some advice if somebody is in the same situation. When you login to GOL website you can use your Smiles number. For me I got stuck on updating my data as there were no way to continue. Instead I chose the desired flight, without making a login. Then in the payment process I added my name etc and Smiles number.
Another issue. When paying you'll see your country, but when to choose a state you'll only see the states in the US. You have to change your country to any country and then change it back to your own country. Then you'll see the correct states of your country.
In Brazil everything is supposed to be a bit complicated.
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Ex-Pres Bozo gets 27-Year Sentence...
[B]Bolsonaro sentenced to 27 years in prison for plotting Brazil coup[/B]
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8xrqxk9p4xo[/URL]
Look like justice and democracy has prevailed in Brazil, where the USA Failed.
But will Americans see this as a victory for justice and democracy, or just higher coffee prices?
The bigger question is:[list] (a) who thinks ex-Pres Bozo will "chicken-out" and run? The U.S.? Russia? Hungary?[/list][list] (b) Or stay and face the music, like Pres Lula, when he was sentenced on fake, trumped up charges?[/list][list] (c) Civil Unrest?[/list]
My money is on (a), go figure! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I]
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[QUOTE=Spidy;3026264][B]Bolsonaro sentenced to 27 years in prison for plotting Brazil coup[/B]
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8xrqxk9p4xo[/URL]
Look like justice and democracy has prevailed in Brazil, where the USA Failed. But will Americans see this as a victory for justice and democracy, or just higher coffee prices?[/QUOTE]This American sees it as both, fortunately and unfortunately respectively.
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[QUOTE=Spidy;3026264][B]Bolsonaro sentenced to 27 years in prison for plotting Brazil coup[/B]
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8xrqxk9p4xo[/URL]
Look like justice and democracy has prevailed in Brazil, where the USA Failed.
But will Americans see this as a victory for justice and democracy, or just higher coffee prices?
The bigger question is:[list] (a) who thinks ex-Pres Bozo will "chicken-out" and run? The U.S.? Russia? Hungary?[/list][list] (b) Or stay and face the music, like Pres Lula, when he was sentenced on fake, trumped up charges?[/list][list] (c) Civil Unrest?[/list]
My money is on (a), go figure! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I][/QUOTE]As an American, I assume the only American news channel that gets exported around the world is CNN. The news networks in America are a joke. They are just promoting their parties. As far as the coup in America. They call that an insurrection but where were the guns? How long was the government overthrown? Those people that participated did succeed and got what they wanted which was some pictures that got them prosecuted. Sure you can spin the story different and the media definitely does. The media in America is a joke.
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Curitiba? Why? I've been there twice and it is sooooo boring. Like the people from there. Of those 5 I would choose Floripa but thats just from my experience and opinion.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3025438]This video is quite informative for those of you considering visiting other cities in Brazil besides the "big two". I have been to 5 cities in Brazil (Salvador will be no. 6): Rio, Sampa, Porto, Curitiba, and Floripa. If I had to pick one from my list to live in it would be Curitiba: [URL]https://youtu.be/3ecTAqjzFaM?si=0FFL3NVNkLWhmYAv[/URL].[/QUOTE].
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Boring?
[QUOTE=Fewdie;3026626]Curitiba? Why? I've been there twice and it is sooooo boring. Like the people from there. Of those 5 I would choose Floripa but thats just from my experience and opinion.[/QUOTE]Maybe that's what I like about it. Nice and quiet! And then if I wanted a little excitement, I could always head off to Rio or Sampa, but I wouldn't want to live in either. The other thing I liked about Curitiba is that it's very green. The greenest city in Brazil, or at least they so claim. Florianopolis would be my next pick of the cities I have been to. Porto Alegre is the one Brazilian city I have been to that I kind of didn't like. Anticipating Salvador, and will be interesting to see where it fits on my list.
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Here's my ranking of where I would live only.
1) Scandallo. The people here are so friendly and nice to me LOL.
2) Florianopolis. Nature.
3) Sao Paulo. Just familiar with the area and the people.
4) Rio.
5) Porto Alegre.
6) Curitiba. Not much to do and the people aren't friendly as from any of the other places.
7) anywhere in the Northeast and North.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3026627]Maybe that's what I like about it. Nice and quiet! And then if I wanted a little excitement, I could always head off to Rio or Sampa, but I wouldn't want to live in either. The other thing I liked about Curitiba is that it's very green. The greenest city in Brazil, or at least they so claim. Florianopolis would be my next pick of the cities I have been to. Porto Alegre is the one Brazilian city I have been to that I kind of didn't like. Anticipating Salvador, and will be interesting to see where it fits on my list.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Fewdie;3027022]6) Curitiba. The people aren't friendly as from any of the other places.[/QUOTE]You obviously didn't meet the people I did. I noticed no difference.
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Disillusioned Gringo
I don't agree with everything he says, and he doesn't do the best job of explaining what he's talking about, but I do get where he's coming from:
[URL]https://youtu.be/BFSjS2w2EuA?si=I8zlok0VNLPl_hUU[/URL]
[URL]https://youtu.be/mbdv1mE0gzs?si=SLnK-CT-adIONsZ2[/URL]
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What about Belo Horizonte?
That is top of Vagabundo's list. Easy trip by bus super cheap from Rio rodoviaria, and not very far by bus.
Good discussion here, that video about ranking cities is good, senor cane. Thanks.
Home of skank. That song. What is the name of that band?
[QUOTE=Fewdie;3027022]Here's my ranking of where I would live only.
1) Scandallo. The people here are so friendly and nice to me LOL.
2) Florianopolis. Nature.
3) Sao Paulo. Just familiar with the area and the people.
4) Rio.
5) Porto Alegre.
6) Curitiba. Not much to do and the people aren't friendly as from any of the other places.
7) anywhere in the Northeast and North.[/QUOTE]
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[URL]https://youtu.be/NeADhPP0G2Q?si=AfUSLkW__fS3QFMu[/URL]
Jota quest.
Love the music and the food from BH. Easier to get there than SP by hopping any RJ bus to 'rodoviaria'.
Best girls are from BH, like Penelope from 4 x4. And perola negra. Anyone have any intel on her, where in SP prives she is, I need to go hit that beautiful blond again, and I need to get up to BH / MG to the source. Best food in Brazil, best music, best women, best hoars, maybe that is the place to spend the super hot months and do the digital nomad thing. Fuk.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3027862]What about Belo Horizonte?
That is top of Vagabundo's list. Easy trip by bus super cheap from Rio rodoviaria, and not very far by bus.
Good discussion here, that video about ranking cities is good, senor cane. Thanks.
Home of skank. That song. What is the name of that band?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3027822]I don't agree with everything he says, and he doesn't do the best job of explaining what he's talking about, but I do get where he's coming from:
[URL]https://youtu.be/BFSjS2w2EuA?si=I8zlok0VNLPl_hUU[/URL]
[URL]https://youtu.be/mbdv1mE0gzs?si=SLnK-CT-adIONsZ2[/URL][/QUOTE]The guy is all over the place. Whining about scams, bad driving, touts, criminality (all true), then bitches that women are poor and expect you to pay for their expenses. Duh, no shit.
And whining about touts in Rio is totally off. He should visit Cartagena to ***** about touts who won't take any number of no gracias for an answer.
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Hotels
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3027896][URL]https://youtu.be/NeADhPP0G2Q?si=AfUSLkW__fS3QFMu[/URL]
Jota quest.
Love the music and the food from BH. Easier to get there than SP by hopping any RJ bus to 'rodoviaria'.
Best girls are from BH, like Penelope from 4 x4. And perola negra. Anyone have any intel on her, where in SP prives she is, I need to go hit that beautiful blond again, and I need to get up to BH / MG to the source. Best food in Brazil, best music, best women, best hoars, maybe that is the place to spend the super hot months and do the digital nomad thing. Fuk.[/QUOTE]Mineiras have a high reputation in Sao Paulo as well (hell half the girls in Scan are fresh off the bus), something about the culture there makes them very amicable by default. The food there is definitely a step up compared to typical Brasileiro comida. The "source" you seek is an area with a dozen prive hotels around the Centro bus station but I will warn you it is not a very friendly setting (especially the management) and being a foreigner you will standout. Me and my friend explored it 2 years ago and got yelled at and thrown out a couple times for not moving quickly enough or having phones out. Porn star Ariella Ferraz admitted to me she worked in there before trying the SP clinicas in between shoots (she only freelances now).
I'll be in RJ briefly mid October. Does anyone have a hotel they would recommend in Flamengo? I want to boycott my regular shithole. If it's in Copacabana I'll do it bit I don't want to break the bank, also read some posts further back saying the Ibis brand is getting unreliable about GF.
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The Windsor Florida Hotel
[QUOTE=ParsTiger;3028056]I'll be in RJ briefly mid October. Does anyone have a hotel they would recommend in Flamengo? I want to boycott my regular shithole. If it's in Copacabana I'll do it bit I don't want to break the bank, also read some posts further back saying the Ibis brand is getting unreliable about GF.[/QUOTE]You might want to check out the Windsor Florida Hotel where due to a sudden cancelled American Airlines flight, I and a bunch of other flyers once spent 18 hours on the Airline's dime. It is a 3. 5 star hotel; clean, quiet and pretty good, IMHO. I don't know what the current rates are, but it has to be less than what you would find in more touristy Copa. They even have a very nice rooftop pool! And I liked the neighborhood.
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Sometimes Brazil can be complicated. I frequently send parcels from Brazil back home. It used to be very cheap, 58 reais /20 kg. Then it quickly went up to 1159 reais /20 kg.
Anyway I wanted to know the current prices. It used to be easy to calculate here:
[URL]https://www2.correios.com.br/sistemas/precosPrazos[/URL]
Now you need to register and the registration doesn't work. I entered in contact with the brazilian post office. To get the information about international prices you need to create on account on their site as it's part of an international survey. I explained to the customer service that the registration doesn't work. They agreed on that. So I asked if they could provide me with the price for sending a 20 kg parcel to Europe. No they couldn't do that. To get that information I need to register. I reminded the customer service that the registration doesn't work. They know that, but to get the price registration is necessary. No way they could just check the price and give it to me. So stupid.
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I would say BH is below SP on my list but above rio. Yeah the food is good and the people are nicer than those other cities like RJ and north and northeast and curitiba. Porto Alegre has very good food too but not much else to do. It also really depends on the location in SP and the people I know.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3027862]What about Belo Horizonte?
That is top of Vagabundo's list. Easy trip by bus super cheap from Rio rodoviaria, and not very far by bus.
Good discussion here, that video about ranking cities is good, senor cane. Thanks.
Home of skank. That song. What is the name of that band?[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=Sperto;3029671]Sometimes Brazil can be complicated. I frequently send parcels from Brazil back home. It used to be very cheap, 58 reais /20 kg. Then it quickly went up to 1159 reais /20 kg.
Anyway I wanted to know the current prices.[/QUOTE]In the States the other day I went to the post office to send a small suitcase in for warranty repair or replacement. I put the box on the scale on the desk and the lady said $31. I said okay good. Then she said the computer told her she needs to measure the box. Ended up being $130! Yeah fuck that. I can buy a new suitcase for that much.
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[QUOTE=Sperto;3025695]I'm buying some domestic tickets. Mainly looking at GOL, Latam and Azul. It's impressive that Latam survives without making their website working better. It's so worthless. Luckily GOL is working well and often have the best prices.[/QUOTE]Fantastic, Latam website is working well. I never seen that before.
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Azul promotions
There will be domestic flights on sale starting Monday. I will be on the look out for flights out of SP. Just saw the reminder in my inbox. Maybe I will revisit Rio.
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There is a first season of a new series. It's called "Os Donos do Jogo". The story is about a crime syndicate and gambling. The serie is nothing spectacular but still entertaining.
It's different showing a series about crime in Brazil without any scenes from the favelas.
[URL]https://www.imdb.com/title/tt38091266/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_donos[/URL]
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Brazilian Survey Says?
[QUOTE=Spidy;3026264][B]Bolsonaro sentenced to 27 years in prison for plotting Brazil coup[/B]
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8xrqxk9p4xo[/URL]
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The bigger question is:[list] (a) who thinks ex-Pres Bozo will "chicken-out" and run? The U.S.? Russia? Hungary?[/list][list] (b) Or stay and face the music, like Pres Lula, when he was sentenced on fake, trumped up charges?[/list][list] (c) Civil Unrest?[/list][/QUOTE]Looks I like (a) was indeed the correct answer, for those taking the "Trump of the Tropics" ex-Pres. Bozo survey.
[B]Brazil's ex-president Bolsonaro arrested to prevent attempted escape, court says,[/B] Nov 23,2025. [URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/22/americas/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-arrested-intl[/URL].
But did Donald Trump unintentionally revealed his escape plans? As his comments creates a politically awkward situation, it does raise questions about his knowledge of Bolsonaro's intentions, especially considering Bozo's move to a location, only 15 min. Away from the USA Embassy.
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Fire!
Another commercial aviation disaster in Brazil. Luckily everyone escaped it seems:
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15359075/amp/Panicked-passengers-told-leave-flee-plane-engulfed-smoke-airport-fire.html[/URL]