FKK Artemis - Berlin

[quote=angus magee; 1309065]c'mon, you can not just drop this nugget with no explanation what so ever? how did you manage a 1/2 price entry? are you a pensioner? a licensed berlin taxi driver? or do you just have the gift of gab.

details, details.

am[/quote]how to get into artemis for 40e.

i noticed from the artemis website that on sundays and mondays pensioners and taxi drivers got in for half price. so now the question was, how can i take advantage of this?

i decided that the only approach that had a chance of working was if i said i was retired. now it happens that this would not be a lie because i have retired from full time employment. this does not mean that i have reached the official retirement age for the uk, it means that i have the choice of working gainfully or visiting places like berlin and artemis. i thought that what would make it difficult would be that i look younger than i really am. i remember the first visit to artemis (fully three visits ago) , i was met at reception by an impressive looking lady. i thought if she is on the desk i have no chance. when i arrived at the desk on my last visit, this impressive looking lady.

was not there, instead a younger girl was at the desk. i sensed a person of lesser experience and perhaps the glimmer of a chance. it is amazing what you can get for a bit of cheek sometimes, so i just asked if i can get in for 40e. no, she correctly said, this is only if you are retired or are a taxi driver. but i said i am retired. so this smart young lady asked me how old i was and what was the retirement age where i came from. i answered both of these questions truthfully, putting on a slightly confused look and smiling, at the same time. she very kindly pointed out that the retirement age in germany was 68. at this point i thought that i had been tor****ed. this smart young girl had got to the nub of the matter. all i could do was grin at her, but suddenly she relented and agreed to let me in for 40e.

this is the honest truth of how it happened.

i would not hold out much hope of any one repeating this. the girl did say that she would not repeat this. too, if she has reported back to management an instruction may have been given to exclude foreigners from this concession.

maybe the girl felt sorry for me. i find that if i go shopping at where i come from. if i have a slightly pre-occupied look, then some of the assistants start to assume that i am in the early stages of loosing my marbles. this is not true of course, why, i am even doing the bbc course in the german language.

if you want to have a go wait until younger and less experienced staff are on the desk, cultivate a slightly confused look, get them to feel sorry for you, be prepared for a rebuff.

[quote=kimino; 1309122]ok, i knew that i was doing a mistake, still. verena. long blonde curly hair, dark eyes. a rose / flower tatoo on back. perfect body. bulgarian, for me a total optiflick. she is cute, i like her appearance a lot. i know she can be a real starfish but this time it was a lot worse. she has been hunting me all evening, kissing me and sayng hi. it was a mediocre, mechanic, session. apart from being a starfish she now shows a really speedy, fuck factory attitude. experience made the worst of the service to this girl. for me, her hanging out with conny all the time has even ruined her more. imho.

except for her beauty, a complete waste of money, time and energy. i really feel guilty with kid icarus for suggesting he might give her a try.[/quote]actually i had a great time with here. but it was a pse, especially when we started and finnished in the kino. it was good in my book. later in the night she requested a massage so i gave her 30 min massage. i did not charge her =). sweet girl, i hope she stay fine in this business. i'm not sure if i'm mixing her with another girl called virginia that i saw in a. some months ago.

sessiond as usual with the sweet girl daisy, sister to susie. she has a great attitude and do amazing deepthroats.

this is my last report and i'm glad that i hade a chace to finally meet som great guys like you kimino, charlie and nebula. in this trip i moved things even further when i tried the gangbang club erlebniswohnung. i'm afraid that, like with everyhing in my life that i enjoy i enjoy too much in the end. i'm starting to get addicted and i don't want to be to addicted so i have to say in the end "i can never do this any more". it has been some fun years yes, and sometimes the best sex i ever had, but i have to move on. i will miss the mongoring scene, but if you fly to high - like icarus in the greek mythology - you get burned, and i know my self and have to avoid that.

good luck to you all and kiss the girls nicely!

Thanks for the many posts. Should you find your way back to the hobby, tehre will a warm towel and more than a few pussies to greet you.

Take care, oftentimes a man has got to do what a man has got to do.

Excess.

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus; 1311423]Actually I had a great time with here. But it was a PSE, especially when we started and finnished in the Kino. It was good in my book. Later in the night she requested a massage so I gave her 30 min massage. I did not charge her =). Sweet girl, I hope she stay fine in this business. I'm not sure if I'm mixing her with another girl called Virginia that I saw in A. Some months ago.

Sessiond as usual with the sweet girl Daisy, sister to Susie. She has a great attitude and do amazing deepthroats.

This is my last report and I'm glad that I hade a chace to finally meet som great guys like you Kimino, Charlie and Nebula. In this trip I moved things even further when I tried the gangbang club Erlebniswohnung. I'm afraid that, like with everyhing in my life that I enjoy I enjoy too much in the end. I'm starting to get addicted and I don't want to be to addicted so I have to say in the end "I can never do this any more". It has been some fun years yes, and sometimes the best sex I ever had, but I have to move on. I will miss the mongoring scene, but if you fly to high. Like Icarus in the greek mythology. You get burned, and I know my self and have to avoid that.

Good luck to you all and kiss the girls nicely![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1311423]This is my last report and I'm glad that I hade a chace to finally meet som great guys like you Kimino, Charlie and Nebula. In this trip I moved things even further when I tried the gangbang club Erlebniswohnung. I'm afraid that, like with everyhing in my life that I enjoy I enjoy too much in the end. I'm starting to get addicted and I don't want to be to addicted so I have to say in the end "I can never do this any more". It has been some fun years yes, and sometimes the best sex I ever had, but I have to move on. I will miss the mongoring scene, but if you fly to high - like Icarus in the greek mythology - you get burned, and I know my self and have to avoid that.[/QUOTE]Far be it for me to second guess you but have you considered that what you call addiction is just the very natural male urge to have sex as often as as with many different females as possible? As such there is absolutely nothing wrong with what you do and thus no need to quit? I am not saying maybe a breather isn't in order to gain perspective and see how things stand, but I have found that unless an addiction is to a specific substance it is more or less bullshit to call it an addiction. Especially where sex is concerned as humans are hard wired for sex and it is only religion and other spiritual pursuits that tell us this is bad. Also I have found that the very act of declaration that one is "never doing this again" is a major indication that one will indeed do it again, one way or another.

So as say, perhaps you do need a break, perhaps you won't ever cross the threshold of any FKK again, but maybe make the declaration when you have a few months perspective from which to say it.

[QUOTE=The Eagles]Last thing I remember, I was.

Running for the door.

I had to find the passage back.

To the place I was before.

"Relax," said the night man,

"We are programmed to receive.

You can check-out any time you like,

But you can never leave!"[/QUOTE]AM

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus; 1311423]This is my last report and I'm glad that I hade a chace to finally meet som great guys like you Kimino, Charlie and Nebula. In this trip I moved things even further when I tried the gangbang club Erlebniswohnung.

Good luck to you all and kiss the girls nicely![/QUOTE]Kid Icarus, every time I say stuff like this somebody posts this link on my face. And they pull me back in. LOL.

Kimino.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=242H7F8DKHA[/url]

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1311423]This is my last report and I'm glad that I hade a chace to finally meet som great guys like you Kimino, Charlie and Nebula.[/QUOTE]I can't help but wonder if after meeting us he began thinking "I don't want to end up like these miserable bastards!"

[QUOTE=Kimino;1311595]Kid Icarus, every time I say stuff like this somebody posts this link on my face. And they pull me back in. LOL.[/url][/QUOTE]Kid.

Don't listen to all us lost, hell bent souls. Walk the line. Your line.

When you waiver, just remember

Oh mother tell your children.
Not to do what I have done.
Spend your lives in sin and misery.
In the House of the Rising Sun.

-Traditional Folk Song (way before them Animals)

or

Stop your rambling.
Stop your gambling.
Stop staying out late at night.
Go home to your wife and family.
And stay by the fireside of right.

- Huddie Ledbetter aka Lead Belly,"Good Night Irene"

Or maybe the most useful, Chef explains Prostitutes to the South Park kids

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwQXSZFIkEo


One man's dick fun is another man's addiction.

What should be the price to have 2 girls have sex among them with strap ons. Will that count like the stupid lesbo show?

Something like 60+60+50+50?

Anyone ever asked / tryed?

Kimino

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1310974]Not that it matters but I would put her age at mid twenties to thirty. My guess is 28. I know one member who knew her from quite some years ago at another club.[/QUOTE]Must be more than one member. My first session with her wasin 2004 when she said she was 21.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1311677]Must be more than one member.[/QUOTE]Wel no doubt as she has been around the scene for a number of years. I had just spoken with one member about it was was being discrete as to who.

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1311674]What should be the price to have 2 girls have sex among them with strap ons. Will that count like the stupid lesbo show?

Something like 60+60+50+50?

Anyone ever asked / tryed?

Kimino[/QUOTE]No, but if you paid me I dunno 10 EUR (just to cover the drink) , I would be the strap on.

Good to see you lasted less than 1 week after your return home, to start planning for the next round. ;)

Hello friends!

I have a small dilemma which I now hope to get some help solving. The thing is I'm coming down to Berlin for the marathon in September. The race is Sunday morning. 30th September. My plan was to run, race starts at 9 am I think, then head to Artemis for some food, sauna, massage and of course sex. I know that Sunday's might be slow days? But that would be sort of ok because I'll be pretty tired.

Now, here's my dilemma. If I understand correctly there's a birthday party or anniversary on Saturday 29th? I have never attended any of those, but I understand they are good? Problem is that I need to get some sleep before the race and leave around 9 pm or so. And maybe the party will mean that Sunday 30th will be really, really slow in the afternoon when I was originally planning to arrive.

So, what to do? All help is apprichiated and so is confirmation and information about the anniversary!

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Buck Rogers; 1310969]I'm attaching her pics, from Artemis website.

I don't know, her skin didn't feel so young to me, felt more like 30 than 25 but nothing that diminished my good time with her.[/QUOTE]Nina told me last year (in November) , that she was 29, that would make her 29 or 30 now, depending of when she have her birthday.

If this is true or not, I don't know, but lies about age use to be a claim to be younger than reality? .

Anyway, she is a very pleasant girl!

Blue

Nina told me the same. Marketa on the contrary has been 29 years old since 2009.

[QUOTE=Travelman10; 1311991]So, what to do? All help is apprichiated and so is confirmation and information about the anniversary![/QUOTE]

The yearly birthday party is a mixed bag. Pros-the food is really good, free drinks (or at least beer) until around 22:00 or 23:00 and champagne served with the fireworks at around 23:00. Cons-the girls are all dressed up and I have never found it to be a particularly good night for punting. It is a party atmosphere with many of the guests being friends of the owners. Some of the regular girls don't bother working as I don't think it is a great money maker for them. Rooms are busy but you never seem to be able to find any of the better girls who are there.

Basically I would not go out of my way to attend unless you like that sort of atmosphere. As for Sunday the next day I doubt that it would be any slower than any other Sunday.

AM

The 4 August I visited Artemis. It is 4 weeks since the last time. This was the worst lineup I've ever seen. I've been on Artiemis about 50 times.

Not only was it a bad line up directly, but it was also a lot of very aggressive, arrogant and unfriendly requests from the girls. Even with good experience to round offa conversation with a lady that I do not like, in a nice way, it ended often with provocative and angry questions about why you do not want to go with her &8203; &8203; to a session.

Shall we put it bluntly? That most of us do not pay for sex with a woman who is not delicate.

With the prices that Artemis holding they must improve immediately!

[QUOTE=Dick1;1312396]but it was also a lot of very aggressive, arrogant and unfriendly requests from the girls.[/QUOTE]Some nationalities are unfortunately overrepresented at the aggression department. There are certain indications showing that girls from Romania and Bulgaria have a slightly lower threshold for communicating / expressing frustrations and anger. Sometimes these girls have told me to "go home if you don't fuck, just eating and drinking for free". Excuse my english.

I visited Artemis a few times late last month and the line-up was quite good then. Actually spent time with quite a few of the German dames. Who knows, maybe a lot of ladies are on vacation now.

- DSK

[QUOTE=Devilspinkick;1312490]I visited Artemis a few times late last month and the line-up was quite good then. Actually spent time with quite a few of the German dames. Who knows, maybe a lot of ladies are on vacation now.- DSK[/QUOTE]Facinating report. Who knows, indeed.

But in today's Slashdot, the first evidence of Artemis going digital.

Nuance Launches Siri Rival "Nina"

"Siri can send texts and emails, set alarms and reminders, surf the Web, ask questions, place calls, play music, and get directions. But would you trust Siri, or any of her similar rivals out there for Android, to pay your bank bill? Or report a lost card? Or set up an auto-payments for your bills? Even if you wanted to do these things, how does Siri even know you are who you say you are? Nuance has clearly thought about what's missing from the voice recognition department, and unveiled its own solution on Monday, called 'Nina. ' The Nuance Interactive Natural Assistant, or NINA, is a cloud-based AI that can be enabled in most business and enterprise applications thanks to a set of APIs and an open SDK for iOS and Android. Nuance calls Nina 'a watershed of firsts for virtual assistants, ' mainly because she is the 'first [VA] to understand what is said and who said it' using voice-I'd authentication software. Unlike Siri, Nina can help users manage their bank accounts, book flights and hotels, oversee and manage their investments, and more."

The "more" isn't spelled out but we can all read between the lines. I am informed by the Arts management that soon, you can download all the current girls.

Basically I would not go out of my way to attend unless you like that sort of atmosphere. As for Sunday the next day I doubt that it would be any slower than any other Sunday.

AM.

Thanks Angus, think I'll go for Sunday then and prepare for the race on Saturday.

Having a look at the messe site. Looks like the first week of October could be good dates to be in Artemis. Prime time, no stupid messes going on.

Anything special going on?

Just have to check if the car valet service and my strap-on are available. LOL.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1312740]Having a look at the messe site. Looks like the first week of October could be good dates to be in Artemis. Prime time, no stupid messes going on.

Anything special going on? Just have to check if the car valet service and my strap-on are available. LOL. Kimino[/QUOTE]It could be special. The new wing maybe open by then (I believe the birthday party 29 Sept is opening night if all goes well).

We are thinking of mounting a double strap on (well actually a long dildo) to the gear shift lever for VIPs so the parking itself might be handled by lesbo show drivers. It will of course cost extra.
Gear shifting may be smoother, afterwards.

But I doubt very much you can possibly wait til Oct.

Plan to be at Artemis on 20 August. There is a messe, but have to take the chance. Haven't been to Artemis before and not been to an FKK for 3 yrs now.

About time I made a return and after Oase (my favorite FKK) Artemis is on my list of must visit FKK's.

[QUOTE=Krazydude; 1313199]Plan to be at Artemis on 20 August. There is a messe, but have to take the chance. Haven't been to Artemis before and not been to an FKK for 3 yrs now.

About time I made a return and after Oase (my favorite FKK) Artemis is on my list of must visit FKK's.[/QUOTE]Another amazing report. They just don't stop coming in.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1313339]Another amazing report. They just don't stop coming in.[/QUOTE]Another useful comment. They just don't stop coming in.

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Artemis is SUBLIME. After years in Spain and South America having to deal with pretentious chicas and outright hostility towards the white man, I found the FKK scene to be so perfect and relatively cheap for the quality and variety on offfer. I also found the line up to be particularly strong and I for one do not even mind the sharks trying to catch some prey. I found out that if I am respectful and firm the nastier sharks just turned away for safer shores. I did have a few drinks over the course of a long stay of some 9 hours in total and I even used the gym and had a swim and feed. All in all, good stuff.

Nina. I had read pages of reports here on Nina and rather than sample her services, I just watched the succession of happy chappys who were taken by this sweet woman, time and again.

Jenna. Bazooka Jenna, what a delight. Rip-snorting time of boob banging, dick sucking full on porn. A sweet lady and a great fuck. CIM the works, ended up going for 3 pops in 90 minutes. 250 E damage with a small tip included. Perfection in all ways. Looks 10/10 Service 11/10. Also, I think her boobs are even more enormous than in the pictures.

[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/?attachment_id=718[/url]

Went to pool and gym for a good hour then met.

Russian lady. (I think her name is Lena) blonde around 5 ft 8", lithe, mega hot, likes herself a wee bit too much, poor service after excellent attitude in the kino, looks 8/10 and service 3/10. Did not cum and did not enjoy. Toothy harsh BBBJ Total = 60 Euros. I was put off so much that I decided to sit at the bar area, drink a little and watch Nina and the sharks. Then after an hour or so up comes.

Marketa. Mega hot blondie."What they love, it was a gas, soon turned out,". Another very nice woman, a quickie for what seemed like 5 minutes but in fact lasted 30 minutes of sheer joy, what an ass and very nice attitude. Looks 10/10 and service 10/10. I came very weakly, damage 60 Euros. I would have gone longer but I simply could not.

[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/?attachment_id=737[/url]

Some hours later.

Ioana. Romanian lady. Spinner, dark hair, features, a bit shark like. I had some drinks with her and a nice 1 hour session where I managed to dribble out a meagre 5th hit for the day after 9 hours in paradise. Looks 9/10 Attitude YMMV Service = 8/10 Damage with drinks = 170 Euros.

I also chatted to many lovely women, a mega hot German with the greatest attributes known to mankind, tall, lithe, natural tits and an ass to die for, but she seemed a bit too important and one guy warned me that she is a cold one. If I can find her name or pic on the web I will post it. Spoke with a Hillary also of the 10/10 rating but alas I will have to wait for another time, met and chatted to the very nice Nina, Oxana, Fana, Fatima, Sandy, Shaz and Jennifer. Maybe I can get back here Friday night to try Hillary. Most girls were at least 7/10 IMHO with many 9's and 10's.

I am not sure why people say this line up is weak but I suppose you northern Europeans are so used to excellence in every field that you get complacent. Outside of 200-300E an hour bait and switch escorts in Spain there really is not this much voluminous quality anywhere I have been. Total damage = 620 Euros plus one way taxi but for this price in Madrid I would have been lucky to find 3 girls in one MONTH of this quality and service for double the price and for a once off event it was a superb day.

Thanks to everyone for the reports. I am going to try the street areas and bars mentioned by Angus, Belvaros, Wanking and RocketBoy,"She packed my bags last night pre-flight".

Sadly, my conference lasts only until Saturday so it will be back to the land of the 25% unemployment soon.

[QUOTE=ShootDaisy;1313527]I am not sure why people say this line up is weak but I suppose you northern Europeans are so used to excellence in every field that you get complacent. Outside of 200-300E an hour bait and switch escorts in Spain there really is not this much voluminous quality anywhere I have been. Total damage = 620 Euros plus one way taxi but for this price in Madrid I would have been lucky to find 3 girls in one MONTH of this quality and service for double the price and for a once off event it was a superb day.[/QUOTE]Great report. It is good to get some "new eyes" perspective on the ol' Love Bahnhof. I would say in general people love to complain because seeing the whole thing with the new perspective takes a great deal of effort. One has to put aside critical facilities (in itself this takes some disciplin) and try to see just how good we have it. I do not say that I myself always manage this but reading your report reminds me to give my head a shake and look for the positive rather than the tried, true and of course somewhat valid negative aspects of the place.

In any case, thanks for bringing this positive outlook to the thread. Things have been a little bogged down of late.

Will of course post this to the RofD thread.

AM

[QUOTE=ShootDaisy;1313527]Nina. I had read pages of reports here on Nina and rather than sample her services, I just watched the succession of happy chappys who were taken by this sweet woman, time and again.[/QUOTE]You are spot on, Nina works the room like no other girl at Artemis. Thanks for the report.

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1313695]You are spot on, Nina works the room like no other girl at Artemis. Thanks for the report.[/QUOTE]Except maybe Marketa...

In the end these two are sisters if not in blood then in spirit. I am always amazed when I hang near the stairs just how many times I see the two of them climbing to the lofty second floor.

AM

In October I'll have some free time in Germany, and can head either to Berlin or Frankfurt. I realize that if conventional tourism was the object, it would be kind of a no-brainer. However the main objective will be some serious punting, and while I've had great experiences at Oase in FRA I'm curious how Berlin will stack up.

If anyone can comment on pricing (particularly Oase vs. Artemis) or other factors I'd appreciate it very much. I'll have hotel covered, but if the hobbying prices are dramatically different in one place vs. The other that could be a deciding factor.

TIA,

E

Well, I sure hope the iPhone Nina is prettier than the real-life Nina. This is one I tend to avoid, though she does work the crowd aggressively.

Let the buyer beware (and not necessarily believe everything on this thread).

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1313888]Well, I sure hope the iPhone Nina is prettier than the real-life Nina. This is one I tend to avoid, though she does work the crowd aggressively.

Let the buyer beware (and not necessarily believe everything on this thread).[/QUOTE]Ok, I must admit that I am not familiar with your iPhone-reference here, as I'm not too impressed with such low-fi girly-phones. But to avoid Nina is surely a newbee mistake. She may not be the first choice if one prefers blonde plastic opti-ficks, but if one likes natural women. Then one can not go wrong with Nina. And if you think she is too aggressive? Then maybe your taste in women tends toward the passive / starfish kind. Among the Artemis regulars she is surely one of the more laid back girls, with more than enough interested suitors. But hey, diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.

[QUOTE=Ravein2;1313899]to avoid Nina is surely a newbee mistake.[/QUOTE]
I fully agree.
On my first visit to Artemis I January 2011 I was lucky to find Nina, or rather she found me! That session is still on my all time FKK top 5. Don't miss that girl if you get the chance are my advice.

T

[QUOTE=Erase;1313877]If anyone can comment on pricing (particularly Oase vs. Artemis) or other factors I'd appreciate it very much. I'll have hotel covered, but if the hobbying prices are dramatically different in one place vs. The other that could be a deciding factor.[/QUOTE]There is no doubt the Artemis is more expensive than Oase. Both the entry fee (65 vs 80) and the half hour room fee (50 vs 60) is more at Artemis. Extras are the same I believe. So if price is the main factor in deciding the choice is obvious.

As for other factors, it has been discussed ad nauseum in various threads and really does depend upon personal preference.

AM

[QUOTE=Erase;1313877]If anyone can comment on pricing (particularly Oase vs. Artemis) or other factors I'd appreciate it very much. I'll have hotel covered, but if the hobbying prices are dramatically different in one place vs. The other that could be a deciding factor.[/QUOTE]The effective entry price to Oase for me is 85 Euros when taking into account the two taxi fares to and from the club.

If pricing is a major factor then although not one of your options NRW is the place to head.

[QUOTE=Erase; 1313877]In October I'll have some free time in Germany, and can head either to Berlin or Frankfurt. I realize that if conventional tourism was the object, it would be kind of a no-brainer. However the main objective will be some serious punting, and while I've had great experiences at Oase in FRA I'm curious how Berlin will stack up.

If anyone can comment on pricing (particularly Oase vs. Artemis) or other factors I'd appreciate it very much. I'll have hotel covered, but if the hobbying prices are dramatically different in one place vs. The other that could be a deciding factor.

TIA,

E[/QUOTE]Did a tour not so long ago, If I only can chose 1 place I would stay in Frankfurt area, you have much more options around there. Big outdoor clubs on sunny days and indoor clubs on rainy. If money is important Dusseldorf area, I have only visited 1 club there but after the first session with CIM I was only 95 EUR down and that was inc entrance fee, and the girls was as hot as any other club I have been to, just less to choose from. The club we did there had a non approach rule that didn't fit us but from reading, others have other styles,

But I think Artemis has the biggest variety of hot girls from all over the world and probably the best indoor club you can find. I think Artemis is the best if you want to hit the same club a couple of days in a row but I prefer to switch between clubs if I can.

Cheers

after a frustrating attempt to broaden horizons at insomnia (see the isg thread) , your truly returned to the tried and true. friday night, the liebe bahnhoff continued imho on its path toward mediocrity. barely got away without leaving ungepopped, until at the last minute, i met up with melody, german (you can tell by her name) , tall, slim, raven-haired, c cups, great smile. session was ok, but a bit passive, and a not-to-be repeated optifick. evening was somewhat quiet, and line-up remained thin by locals standards.

returned saturday night and huge improvement, best imho since june. lots of the a team back finally, and i had a roaring gfe great time with old stand-bys jenna and brigitta, both already discussed at length on the forum. passionate, good conversations, lots of laughs. much better buzz on somehow, despite the male population was down from normal levels which actually made all quite pleasant. no waiting for rooms, girls fresher, etc. great night, best in a long time.

i had some long chats with various girls and staff on the deeper bits. a number of long-timers do feel as i do (and i did not pay them to say this) that there has indeed been a change, too many competitive and silly young girls, and the whole gig has become much more of a mass tourist trap thing. and the young'uns have this bizarre sense of entitlement. just after a draining session, i managed to snag a chair by a broken video game which offer a great scouting perch while recouperating. a young, short-haired red head, lots of tats, vaguely ziggy stardusty waif came over and asked if she could sit there, even though the machine did not work. i said why-as i was obviously there first, and does she expect me to just get up and stand for her? she said because she had a drink. i suggested there were other solutions, like the many available free seats in the main room, but she said she likes to sit there. the other stool by the working video free and i pointed to the obvious. she just pouted, but then plunked herself down, and we spend a few glorious minutes of silent awkwardness. then out of the blue she asked "what star sign are you?" i wanted to say i was a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url], but was unsure of the german. so i merely replied that i was a clone, and had none. that was sufficient to seal our fate of not connecting for several reincarnations, which pleased me to no end. but the whole thing was mighty odd.

nonetheless, the stair area is a great spot for viewing the usual 50 yr old italian guys groping german girls and playing the no speak any language game. one poor german girl was trying to be polite and had no idea what they were up to. after watching easily 10 minutes of ass and tit poking, i quietly explained to her they had no intention of going to a room. she then said aha, and tried to drag them up the stairs which freaked them out. she laughed and smiled back to me-nice outflaking maneuver. then a chinese contingent passed by and 2 polish girls tried to wisk a few a way but they would not break ranks. one replied, "you ask your chief", and we both cracked up. she followed them in, and returned dragging one up the stairs, looking at me, and said chef hat ja gesagt). anyway all just passing the hour i had to wait til brigitta in high demand returned from the the upstairs netherworld to be finally swooped up by moi.

back to the plot, the better, more experienced girls not thrilled either with the changes, especially on the monger side. what keeps them sane is their supply of steady locals who sometimes spend an entire day with one girl. both girls and the masseurs downstairs confirm a thinning of the turnover, and the massages are an especially good proxy as they are in demand almost regardless. but eg last night both were free for substantial amounts of time, which they said is pretty unusual for a sat night. you can see how dire this situation is when they are forced to talk with rb as there was better to do. but for the mongers, i have to say the situation at the moment is pretty ideal, as all systems are under-stressed. one word to newbies. there are some new tall german girls (a blond and a black haired) working as duos, highly engineered mams. just be careful as word is the usual mechanical bs. ymmv. rb did not try as brain overruled balls, but nice to watch.

i had a great chill session on the roof top which is well worth visiting and most mongers don't know it's there. only accessible from the stairs outside the kitchen. drinks and a book, a nice lounge chair, a sunset, the soothing sounds of trains rushing by, punctuated by the autobahn roar, is nevertheless unbeatable. and from the commanding heights, one sees that the new wing under construction is proceeding toward the endgame. the pool is in, the jacuzzi installed, final stucco plastering underway. you can see finally how it will look, and that there is a large terrace area with stairs being framed out. many areas are uncovered and no roofing plans and kind of a spanish / moorish decor seems to be emerging. still a long way to go but it will likely be ready by end sept. i tried unsuccessfully to reach senior management to clarify how all this will work in wintertime. will the pool remain heated throughout (the current rumour) , how will the uncovered narrow walkways between rooms remain walkable with ice and and snow, or will they just close the area off if (when) the weather really sucks? all questions remain unresolved.

anyway i was struck by how different the two nights were, and was surprised how many more girls were on sat. i always assumed thurs-sat were basically the same, but i have not been on back-to-back weekend nights in ages. it could be that actually many chose not to become too wasted by working both nights. dunno, but it was a relief to have no run-ins with either creature features or fecal follies (see my and especially zimmerbaby's unbeatable stunning insomnia report [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3353-insomnia-swingers-club-berlin&p=1314243#post1314243[/url]. despite my overall preference on quality grounds for the private bordellos, the arts mojo is partially back.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1314396]Despite my overall preference on quality grounds for the private bordellos, the Arts mojo is partially back.[/QUOTE]Good report. Definitely RofD worthy as a marker of how things can change night by night. With all the never ending discussion about which night is best we can see here it is really a bit of a crap shoot in the end. But then that is why many of us like P4P in the long run if we admit it or not.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1314406]Good report. Definitely RofD worthy as a marker of how things can change night by night. With all the never ending discussion about which night is best we can see here it is really a bit of a crap shoot in the end. But then that is why many of us like P4P in the long run if we admit it or not.AM[/QUOTE]Well, as Elvis would say, thankyaverymuch.

Some egregious errors have appeared in my text, the result yet again of the fucking aggressive editor built in here (like chopping out the word "better" in nothing [better] to do re the masseurs). I wish Jackson would throttle it back and just let us write without having to constantly look over our shoulder, and just let us make the mistakes.

However, I think your "crapshoot" comment is misdirected and as Zimmerbaby has shown definitively, it belongs in the Insomnia thread.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1314396]Returned Saturday night and huge improvement, best IMHO since June. Lots of the A Team back finally, and I had a roaring GFE great time with old stand-bys Jenna and Brigitta, both already discussed at length on the forum. Passionate, good conversations, lots of laughs. Much better buzz on somehow, despite the male population was down from normal levels which actually made all quite pleasant. No waiting for rooms, girls fresher, etc. Great night, best in a long time.

Anyway I was struck by how different the two nights were, and was surprised how many more girls were on Sat. I always assumed Thurs-Sat were basically the same, but I have not been on back-to-back weekend nights in ages. It could be that actually many chose not to become too wasted by working both nights. Dunno, but it was a relief to have no run-ins with either creature features or fecal follies (see my and especially Zimmerbaby's unbeatable stunning Insomnia report.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3353-Insomnia-Swingers-Club-Berlin&p=1314243#post1314243[/url]

Despite my overall preference on quality grounds for the private bordellos, the Arts mojo is partially back.[/QUOTE]I am curious as to why ladies like Jenna and Brigitta etc would NOT just set up from their own apartment after working at FKK so long. I am sure the 3 mentioned above in my title bar could command great fees with equal demand to what they now get at Artemis or is there such high turnover and fees for them at the FKKs they can earn $1k plus per day?

I was told by several folks to sample Melody but alas she was not there the day I was in Artemis.

Great report and thanks (BTW the whole German gang-bang thing put me off reading your report but if you head to the UK, try Lady Marmalade, it is a buzz with many hotties on occasion).

[QUOTE=Tors Ham; 1314392]Did a tour not so long ago, If I only can chose 1 place I would stay in Frankfurt area, you have much more options around there. Big outdoor clubs on sunny days and indoor clubs on rainy. If money is important Dusseldorf area, I have only visited 1 club there but after the first session with CIM I was only 95 EUR down and that was inc entrance fee, and the girls was as hot as any other club I have been to, just less to choose from. The club we did there had a non approach rule that didn't fit us but from reading, others have other styles,

But I think Artemis has the biggest variety of hot girls from all over the world and probably the best indoor club you can find. I think Artemis is the best if you want to hit the same club a couple of days in a row but I prefer to switch between clubs if I can.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Thanks Tors and others. I know this topic has been covered indirectly but the info summarized here is very helpful. In particular, the "if you can only choose one place" angle. I'll give it a bit of thought over the next few days then book flights & hotel. I'm also curious about Dusseldorf. Maybe another trip though. I should say that money is not *that* big of a deal. It seems like we're talking 60 vs. 50 Euros, not a 300% difference.

Will let you know what I decide. I should have mentioned I'll be in Germany from something like a Tuesday night until Sunday morning so I probably have time for one overnight trip to another city for some variety.

E

[QUOTE=ShootDaisy; 1314452]I am curious as to why ladies like Jenna and Brigitta etc would NOT just set up from their own apartment after working at FKK so long.

I was told by several folks to sample Melody but alas she was not there the day I was in Artemis.[/QUOTE]Hi-short responses. First to complicate it. There are apparently 2 girls named Melody working at the Bahnhoff at the mo. So who knows which.

On the rest, I have actually discussed it with them and the reasons for not going private are very simple. Far less hassles with rent, utilities, phone answering, supplies laundry, furniture, cleaning, cooking, etc; far greater security; a place to sleep; more traffic; sauna and soon jacuzzi; no hassles with permits or taxes from the local authorities; no nosy neighbors; more room to move and come and go as they please, at Artemis. And the added advantage of having time to screen guys and say no if necessary during chit chat at the bar vs having to make the instant commitment in a flat. The flip side of what we guys experience in the private flats. Quite compelling and could easily balance out net positive vs the potential revenue lost from not going private.

Great report! Makes me want to go back to visit Artemis again! Looks like the quality meter there is on high!

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1314396]I Barely got away without leaving ungepopped, until at the last minute, I met up with Melody, German (you can tell by her name) , tall, slim, raven-haired, C cups, great smile. Session was ok, but a bit passive, and a not-to-be repeated optifick. Evening was somewhat quiet, and line-up remained thin by locals standards.[/QUOTE]Hi RB and thanks for the info. Too bad you didn't enjoy Melody as much as I did, but all guys that tend to find the girls passive are too active in bed themselves LOL!

Sorry for not participating in the action at the Love Bahnhof this time around. I'm heading for Frankfurt and will be at Oase, World and probably Palace from Thu-Sat. I just have to take advantage of the extremely weak Euro currency compared to the strong oil-fueled NOK! I will just have a pause of three weeks before hitting the Hessen clubs again during the messe in September. It's going to be quite interesting!

I would be interested in knowing how the construction work procedes at the end of Sep. I would probably be very much tempted to experience the sublime offerings of Berlin once again! BTW what was it that the girls didn't approve of on the mongering side? And one last question: will the Valet parking be ready as well in September?

My visit to Artemis wasn't recent, but I'm writing this for two reasons, first to thank all of you guys, especially permanent contributors (like Angus M, London T an many others) for all your insight to FKKs and how it all works.

Second, this was my first successful visit to FKK (there was another one to Collosseum with not much action) , so I think other first-timers may find it useful.

I got there around 18:00 following instructions found on this site, plus I also played a bit with google maps and street view, and even earlier I watched the video from Angus's blog.

The lady at the front desk patiently explained to me what to do, as it was my first visit. But as this is the place where you start seeing fully naked chicks (they come to the front desk to change money I think) , I had to restrain myself from saying "yeah yeah, I know all that" and run into this paradise.

The building inside was big, nice and impressive. There were quite a few guys walking everywhere as well, apparently on that night they had higher than normal share of Italians, they also had some Russians, who seemed to use services of Russian speaking girls, but majority were German or English speaking.

From what I could see guys don't normally talk to other guys, unless you came to Artemis together. Everyone's just minding their own business.

I'm not that kind of guy who just walks up to any woman to talk, especially when they are fully naked and beautiful, so, in a sense, it helped that in Artemis they come to talk to you.

The first girl who tried to talk to me came so close to me that not only I coudn't see her body, but even her face was too fuzzy, that's how close she was to my eyes, but I politely declined with "may be later", as I need to have a look around first.

For the first girl I decided to choose someone who I would be really comfortable with, I think that's important, so the overall impression is not ruined by a bad attitude (eg sharky or indifferent or whatever). The first few girls probably saw me at the front desk, so may be were thinking I'm an easy prey, and felt pushy, so I declined them, until I saw Mika, a Thai girl. I even walked up to her myself, as I could see that her personality would suit me and give me a good start in this place.

We went upstairs, and the first thing I noticed in the room. It sooo bloody dark! Of course, I can see the girl and room furniture, but I really really like the details. Skin, breasts, nipples and of course to have a good look at her pussy while DATYing. I quickly looked for a light controller to make the room a bit brighter but no success.

Anyway, I was fully satisfied with Mika, I didn't ask for any additional services.

One thing I forgot is to check for time, even though I had a watch with me. And then I forgot again with the second girl, and then again with the third. So it was good that three girls I was with were decent and no one tried to exploit the situation.

After that I was moving around the place trying to see what's available (both facilities and girls). The girls were trying to talk non-stop, so now I was telling them "sorry I'm resting".

I decided to have dinner with my free bier. There are a few tables, but they are designed to be shared, but as I mentioned, everyone is minding their business and girls don't approach guys in the dining room either. The food on that day was more like traditional German and I enjoyed it.

There were a few really beautiful girls around bar, but they were sitting in a group having fun, and it would take a lot of courage from me to approach them, but since I don't really like drawing attention to myself, I thought may be not, even though I was ready for optifuck. Based on the descriptions of this forum I suspect it was Marketa and Nina, but could be wrong.

Another girl that was good for optifuck was walking around doing business. I saw her enter bar, then talking to some guy, then going upstairs with him. When she came out I decided to approach her. Her name is Jenny in English, but in German, may be Jana, something like that. Tall, skinny blond with beautiful everything.

I didn't expect much, as I knew I'm going to be another widget on a conveyer belt, but for optifuck it was good enough.

She kept saying "Are you going to come now?" as if hurrying me so she can go to the next "widget". But I felt satisfied in the end. Didn't end up doing DATY though as she was so efficient with everything there was just no place for that.

Then I had some more rest, while occasionally talking to other girls. I must mention that some of the girls do get pissed off when you decline their services, for example, one of them even angrily said to me "fuck off!" while walking away. I guess, I can understand their frustration, imagine spending there whole night, and not getting a single guy because they all go for optifucks.

The last one for me was Hungarian Gabitza. She has such a nice personality and a beautiful smile that even though she is not really a type that I like I decided to go with her. She did ask me before as well, and I was saying "may be later" and "now I'm resting" etc. So when she approached me again, I thought might as well. I was getting hardon as I was walking with her to a room. Really nice girl. At that time of day all rooms upstairs were taken and there was some wait time to get a room near cinema. So while standing there with Gabitza she was swaying her ass gently rubbing my cock with her ass cheeks.

After that I wasn't going to do anything so just was hanging around the bar area, listening to music and watching girls (and I really enjoyed it when they started dancing a little to the beat of 'Time, Dirty bit', slightly moving their naked pussies back and front. Since then when I hear that song I really think "I had the time of my life, and I never felt this way before"

So, overall, I was satisfied with my visit.

What I didn't like:

- When it gets really busy, you end up on a bed that was used few mins ago, by another couple, and later in the evening I could feel wet spots here and there, which turned me off a bit.

- Probably the most interesting place to be is around the bar, as almost all girls seems to hang around there, but there was so much cigarette smoke, that I had to go to other areas just to get some fresh air. May be it was because I was there in winter and in summer there is better ventilation.

[QUOTE=Sucker17;1314726]Hi RB and thanks for the info. BTW what was it that the girls didn't approve of on the mongering side? And one last question: will the Valet parking be ready as well in September?[/QUOTE]Sucker my man-well your staying away means Hessen's loss is Berlin's gain. Although I am somewhat puzzled by your NKR Euro argument because we also spend Euros here in Berlin also, in case you have forgotten. Could be the sperm levels have risen to dangerous heights? Anyway, some of the girls your intrepid reporter interviewed have described a process that can only be called the creeping cretinization of clients. In other words, more boys behaving badly. I've heard it from some several long-timers of different nationalities and as they are in the rooms with these guys all the time, there must be something to it. This is in parallel with the change in girls, noted earlier. I remember fondly in the first couple of years when you could go to Artemis and there would be a constant influx of new hotties, more Germans or Balts, slightly older and more settled in their heads. Suits my tastes, not others', I realise. It used to be I would roll in and think there were easily 5-10 who made my scrotum filled with lava. Now it is 2-3, and often just ones I´ve known for a long time. There are now more EE young girls and it´s become more competitive amongst them, especially lately with a noticable tightening of the economy. The whole vibe is just different. Not that you cannot have a good time (as I did recently), and it is surely different for regular locals vs irregulars and newbs, who will feel that hypnotic rush having never been in an FKK. If they only knew what it once was.

I still believe that there is a market niche here waiting to be filled by some agile entrepreneur, to create a smaller, more refined FKK Club. It would not be more expensive on the entrance price, as its running costs would be lower. It would limit entrance a bit, building a coolness image, never being overcrowded, have far better food, stylish more erotic decor, some decent background music vs techno pop junk, and have only the hottest of the hottest girls. It would figure out some pricing structure to allow girls to earn a little more, building loyalty and service on all sides. It would offer different "business-men's" day and night rates. It would be slicker and more international than the private bordellos, and have the FKK naked atmosphere in which you can linger as long as you want, with a bar. It would seek to create a buzz as the place to be, for both hot times but also interesting conversations all around. It would have a small business center so you could do some work, allowing longer stays. There have been a few attempts but all seem to have tanked for various reasons, such as the old Bel Ami (tax evasion) , the Pascha club remake there which folded after only several months because no one bothered to check if all permits and neighbors permissions were in order, the new Bel Ami near Mon Rouge (some sleazy mafioso vibe and occasional break-in) , Mon Rouge at night, just does not work somehow, and neither does the silly Bar Rouge in Mitte.

With the right stuff, a new cool place could work and provide some needed competition. It would be a real club, vs a factory that processes pussies and penises. Angus could run it, Charlie123 might find the location, Kimino could be the Ekki-like fixer, and I volunteer to be the new 'tute tester, being the good soul that I am. We need some locals to deal with the locals, maybe Oliver Kahn. You can invest all those Norska Kroner into something lasting, that will grow to become a real Berlin thing. Not the biggest. Just the best. I will send our bank wire details via PM.

But til then, the Valets of the Dolls parking service continues, especially in its conceptual mode. You of course have not helped by revealing a way to beat our pricing structure but as you are cute, we forgive you. The bigger problem is the gimondous construction crane and building supplies that clog the parking lot. And even when it all goes, the reduced space might mean we may need to find one of those Japanese vertical elevator parking garage solutions. But the weight might cause problems as the new wing has dug up the ground and soil stability might be an issue. The whole thing could collapse and slide into the new swimming (well splashing) pool. But we will sort it out.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1314396]Despite my overall preference on quality grounds for the private bordellos, the Arts mojo is partially back.[/QUOTE]Good to hear there was a good vibe! Nice report.

And good to know from you and Zimmerbaby what's up at Insomnia.

Looking forward and monitoring MR. LOL.

Ciao.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1314847]You can invest all those Norska Kroner into something lasting, that will grow to become a real Berlin thing. Not the biggest. Just the best. I will send our bank wire details via PM.[/QUOTE]Is this the new shape of Nigerian scam (known as the Berliner Scam) to cum! Anyway, I've realised they use Euro in Berlin as well. I just got tired of going to Artemis almost every day, and Hessen is both less expensive and offer variable FKKs on their list! But I miss Artemis, and I agree, Berlin should have another FKK. One financial model that might work (in addition to my financial contribution of NOK) would be to charge every question asked in this forum with 1 euro. Silly questions already asked with 2 euros! I guarantee we would have established an option to Artemis, ready before the Christmas rush!

[QUOTE=Sucker17;1314970]Is this the new shape of Nigerian scam (known as the Berliner Scam) to cum! Anyway, I've realised they use Euro in Berlin as well. I just got tired of going to Artemis almost every day, and Hessen is both less expensive and offer variable FKKs on their list! But I miss Artemis, and I agree, Berlin should have another FKK. One financial model that might work (in addition to my financial contribution of NOK) would be to charge every question asked in this forum with 1 euro. Silly questions already asked with 2 euros! I guarantee we would have established an option to Artemis, ready before the Christmas rush![/QUOTE]Okay, I cannot stand being in the "sin bin" as it were. Sold my place in Hungary for a small loss (some idiot English twat bought it) so I am free to return to the great stadium of pussy known as Berlin. Even my nuts are not sore so much anymore after my operation.

BUT if anyone is capable of funding and getting the car parking thingy going (in an operational rather than inspirational sense then it is ME). Maybe I should bring my spondoolies and add them together with the intellectual property of SIR Angus and RocketMan (Burning up a fuse here alone) and set up the ideal 5 star boutique FKK of our wildest dreams.

1st employees. Jenna, Nina, Marketa, Melody,

No fucking Italians allowed (sorry my Australian racism coming through. Well and my hatred for grease)

"Party on Wayne"

Then again I would probably drink the profits or sell the system to some African 3rd world Despot in lieu of a gun delivery.

Touchdown in Berlin Aug 20

So I tried to apply for a Schengen business visa as I usually only spend 3 months in Europe over any 7 month period but the twats at the German consulate told me I need to return to my country of birth. Or passport held country to apply. I told them I haven't lived there in 20 years nor been there in 17 years yet they say that is a must do. What the fuck.

Anyone here have a GREAT lawyer in Berlin who does this stuff than PM me. I have to leave Europe by the 25th as that will be my 90th day in the last 6 months

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1315106]No fucking Italians allowed (sorry my Australian racism coming through. Well and my hatred for grease)[/QUOTE]Looking at history,"Australian racism" is a weird concept, but I guess we are all here to learn, although probably not from you.

Gidday.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1315106]No fucking Italians allowed (sorry my Australian racism coming through. Well and my hatred for grease)[/QUOTE]Belvaros- think perhaps an apology is in order. I mean I do realise the the somewhat over blown language is part of your style and forgive much of it in so far as it can be entertaining. But there are a number of Italian members here on the forum who are pretty damn decent guys and contributors to the forum. We all joke a bit about the rambunctious behaviour displayed by out souther brothers, but the "grease" comment maybe went a little too far. I know Kimino and he really is not a greasy fellow at all.

Respectfully.

AM

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1315304]the German consulate told me I need to return to my country of birth. Or passport held country to apply. I told them I haven't lived there in 20 years nor been there in 17 years yet they say that is a must do.[/QUOTE]I wasn't going to touch this but after that outrageously gratuitous ethnic slur against brother Italians, perhaps this is the universe's way of enforcing justice.

One might say, well "wadaya expect mayte" from a land whose gene pool is comprised largely of criminals and debtors. But that would be wrong of course.

You do indeed owe our Italian Schengen comrades an apology.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1315425]I wasn't going to touch this but after that outrageously gratuitous ethnic slur against brother Italians, perhaps this is the universe's way of enforcing justice.

One might say, well "wadaya expect mayte" from a land whose gene pool is comprised largely of criminals and debtors. But that would be wrong of course.

You do indeed owe our Italian Schengen comrades an apology.[/QUOTE]Only a twat would say that about our Italian brothers. I never heard of an Aussie who was bent out of shape by other guys having fun.

It was a JOKE guys, lighten up.

And FTR. I hereby sincerely apologize to any all Italians I have insulted.

Now can anyone recommend a lawyer they trust.

Kindest Regards.

Jack

It was a JOKE guys, lighten up, and FTR.

I hereby sincerely apologize to any and all Italians I have insulted.

Now can anyone recommend a lawyer they trust.

Kindest Regards.

Jack

funny blog

Actually, the day I was at FKK Artemis, every single woman I spoke to complained about the Italians. I watched 5 or 6 Italian guys molest every single woman who walked by, such classy individuals, groping hookers in a brothel, how original, and I mean the girls really complained about their regular Iti behaviour, but as hostesses, all the girls were too nice to do much about it except crack jokes. Then again Italians are so wonderful, everyone loves them more than Belvaros and those big nasty Australians, those really unfriendly southerners who like nothing but having a good time, a few beers, a fight and a fuck or 2. I mean Italians. They did invent what was it,"Sewers". But I must add, that I find the Italians were particularly gutless that day at Artemis, so much so I wanted to king hit a few, but 1 Scot and 6 Italians is hardly a fair number, They would have needed at least 4 more guys. Italian-girly-men want a lolli-pop, I have some pink ones here for the pillacs who were behaving like major douchebag weeds in Berlin. I will take a convict over a bankrupt lying scusswottel anytime.

Enjoy the hypocrisy of your blog because I have read all of the posts about how poorly you all view the "garlic coast" natives and their behaviour. In the words of the late great Belvaros,"Party on Wayne", the rest of you sympatheticos can suck my left one. Of course I MUST apologize before I get a tongue lashing from the Kings of Germany.

I sincerely apologize to all of the real Italian men out there!

[QUOTE=ShootDaisy;1315512]the rest of you sympatheticos can suck my left one.[/QUOTE]Right.

Over time, there has been a wise consensus shown that it is best to leave politics and national slurs out of this thread, which used to be things Artemisian. The last 24 hrs being a case in point.

So before we all need rabies shots, let us now move on and consider all this closed.

Hi everyone.

I went to Artemis in early August. It was my first time in a FKK, so I can't make comparisons and my judgment will be probably biased, but I want to share something with you after taking so many useful information from the forum.

We landed in a small group, on Saturday mid-afternoon. The lineup was quite impressive. I mean, the first few girls we spotted from the locker room were hotter then I expected (and I was prepared to see very beautiful girls actually.) and that was just the beginning. We started drinking something on a couch in the bar room, enjoying the view without hurrying.which would have an unsustainable impact on my finances. Most of the girls didn't bother to come to us, excepted for a couple of romanians who insisted to take us upstairs, but without being excessively aggressive. One of them was even funny, and at some point I thought I could accept, even if I didn't like her that much. There were about 40 girls, and the number increased in the evening up to 60 I think. I saw guys from lots of countries, many russians and japanese.

I took three rounds upstairs (at the standard rate). Two of them, with a german and an asian girl, were amazing. The last one was a bit more disappointing: beautiful girl but with a too much assembly-line attitude, worried that my tongue could damage the work of the surgeon on her breast. We also had lunch, which was decent (I should say good, for german standards).

In summary, it was a very pleasant day. The club is elegant, clean and the atmosphere is relaxed. The girls are A-level, for the number and quality I can compare only with Darling cabaret in Prague.

Oh, now that it's about a white ethnicity all of a sudden everybody gets it and wants apologies! But when people come in here and make pejorative comments about people of color expecting to get a pass, but instead get challenged on their ignorance, that's "playing the race card" or some nonsense? I didn't see anybody calling for any apologies for a stupid comment about some people having more trouble controlling body odor than others based solely on their race. And the poster never pretended to be joking! I mean, the hypocrisy and latent (and sometimes not so latent) racism of some of the people here is just sickening. I guess when it starts to hit a little closer to "home", then all of a sudden people start to understand the offensive nature of this BS. Don't they?

I'm sure this will be discussed extensively here, so I want to leave a short feedback.

I was in Artemis today and was also at relatively close proximity of the shooting that occurred a few hours ago. Three Russian men, one (or more) of whom was in the VIP room with a Bulgarian girl, got into a fight with the security personnel at the club's entrance and also fired a gun. I recall 3 gunshots. Although it sounded like gas pistol to me, I will read what exactly happened in the news outlets like everybody else. From what I heard and saw, two security guards seemed to be lightly wounded. To repeat myself, I am not in a position to give an accurate report of the incident and it's best to wait for the news reports.

According to what I heard from the staff, this is the first time in club's history that such a shooting happened. As regulars know, incidents that involve the police happen occasionally (but not very often) in Artemis but these are always either about overly intoxicated people or fist fights. In that sense I never considered it any different from what happen in most night clubs.

The management was very professional during and after the ordeal. The police and ambulances arrived in about 2 minutes. I have always admired the cordial professionalism of the German police and today was no exception. We had to wait a while in the club as the police cordoned off the club, apprehended the culprits and interrogated the people involved. Afterwards I left the club after giving my name and contact information.

I am expecting a PR backlash for the club, as a shooting doesn't really attract people who want a relaxed, spa-like mongering experience.

As for me though, I am leaning towards seeing this as a freak incident and I am not planning to let it change my regular visits to my favourite club.

Have there been any other shootings inside a FKK before?

This just seems like an one-off incident where a guy was pissed off at security. Personally, I go to a lot of strip clubs and shootings are common place in my city, as recently as 3 nights ago.

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1316306]Have there been any other shootings inside a FKK before?[/QUOTE]Well, I did a little shooting myself last night with the young German / Turkish Bussa, brunette, very curvy D cups, and one of the better sessions in many a moon. She is only there 2-3 nights a week, but wow. Only flesh wounds though.

Thurs actually was again a so so night, lot of regular stars absent. Maybe they knew what was coming. Seems like a left too early last night to miss the special show. In general Russians and guns are a bad combination. See here.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8IGDIujijQ[/url]

Take that Oase with your fancy pants outside area. Nothing gets you street cred like a honest to God Russian mafia shooting. Hope these security guys who took bullets for the Love Bahnhof at least get some free nookie from the girls in appreciation.

Glad everyone is ok and I am sure it will be a subject of gossip from weeks to come.

AM

[url]http://www.morgenpost.de/berlin-aktuell/article108659555/Kunde-schiesst-in-Berliner-Bordell-Artemis-um-sich.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1316318]Take that Oase with your fancy pants outside area. Nothing gets you street cred like a honest to God Russian mafia shooting. Hope these security guys who took bullets for the Love Bahnhof at least get some free nookie from the girls in appreciation.[/QUOTE]Well some very prelim info from the article in the Morgenpost says the police think they might have fired blanks. So there goes the street cred. It is a shame they did not wait for the new wing to open because there are all sorts of different levels, terraces, rooms and corners to hide in, and it would have made a seriously good video. Sort of High Noon (or rather Poon) or OK Corral-esque. The Security guys always wear black t-shirts and pants and that might have added to the confusion, and they might change to white, or at least beige.

Angus, you have given me an idea though. We could take turns doing this. Of course you will have to start- so you get a blank gun, you shoot me (in the elbow but it looks like the stomach, though this really means you have to get those underpowered glasses of yours fixed). Then I grab the gun, you run away, and the girls think I'm the hero and offer the goodies gratis on a plate. We wait a week or so, then I will shoot you, and you take your turn as hero. With the money we will save, you can pay for the new glass lenses, and we can inject cash into the Valets of the Dolls parking service.

Just to keep all this in perspective, this is the first time in 6 solid years (ie Millions of gangsters in and out) that anything like this happened, and still not clear what happened. Seriously, I obviously hope no one really hurt. Maybe time for metal detectors at the door.

Krimi-update, as the locals say. So, multiple Berlin newspapers now carrying the "Artemis Shooting" story. Bulgarians involved, not Russians, some fight about not paying a bill, presumably after a session, then security called, then bam bam. Blanks, not real bullets. Injuries minor due to burns, some plastics abrasions. And, it seems the perps got away, driving an Audi A8, and the Po-Lice (for you [I]Wire[/I] Fans) asking for help. In short, all over, back to biz as usual. It is a bit disturbing that guns of any sort got well inside the premises, but waddayagonnado, as the Sopranos would say.

Hey guys.

Was at artemis last night and saw that little turkish bomb "bussa". Can anybody tell something about her? Wasn't able to get in touch with her, cause of the following

Shooting!

Thanks

I always bring my gun to the club. I do shoot about 4 times, but no blanks.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1316570]I always bring my gun to the club. I do shoot about 4 times, but no blanks.

HB[/QUOTE]A+

I was thinking that maybe the Bulgarians shot off their "blanks" cause they were pissed that everyone thought they were Russians. Apologies in advance to the Russkies!

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1316316]Well, I did a little shooting myself last night with the young German / Turkish Bussa, brunette, very curvy D cups, and one of the better sessions in many a moon. She is only there 2-3 nights a week, but wow. Only flesh wounds though.

Thurs actually was again a so so night, lot of regular stars absent. Maybe they knew what was coming. Seems like a left too early last night to miss the special show. In general Russians and guns are a bad combination. See here.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8IGDIujijQ[/url][/QUOTE]Does anybody know more about that "Bussa".

I Had a great Time relaxing and having fun in Artemis.

[QUOTE=Enissay;1316629]Does anybody know more about that "Bussa".[/QUOTE]You have asked this now twice. She`s very nice, great, not often there. What more do you want to know?

the planets aligned so i was able to play a visit to the club at short notice. i had 4 sessions, no disasters but one that didn't really click and no bullets thankfully. i arrived around 14. 30. the club was busy enough with a few familiar faces walking the floor; nina, sarah and ella for example.

i knocked back a few approaches before deciding on my first session. i've had a couple of threesomes at the a. so i decided my first session would be me and 2 girls. i noticed 2 cute blondes prowling together so i waited at the stairs for them to come past. we had a little chat and i told them what i wanted and what i expected from the session and we headed upstairs.

[b]michelle and stella[\b]

i'm not 100% percent on both names and they're not pictured on the website. both girls are german, blonde and sporting some great tits. neither are from berlin but i can't remember which city they are from.

we started off with the standard lesbian show. they clearly have worked together a lot so they put on a decent if slightly mechanical performance. i hadn't had sex or jerked off for a while so i was hard and ready to go. but once i got involved in the sex things went south. the girls are good workers but are a bit fussy. i couldn't touch my cock after the condom went on, for example, even though my hands had been cleaned by disinfectant before we started. i enjoyed both girls beautiful bodies and banging stella doggie style while she ate michelles pussy was a lot of fun and looked great in the mirrors.

a good, not great, and slightly shark-why session. not one for the repeat list.

so after a break, sauna and sleep it was time for round 2.

my type is normally blondes with big, bouncing tits but i fancied a change of scene. so after a few conversations i headed upstairs with:

[b]lara from germany [/b]

tall (i'm 6'1 and she is as tall as i am) , thin, small tits, long dark hair and an interesting face. she's not stunning in an obvious way but is quite striking.

we started with some slow kissing before she started the bbbj. she had me very hard, very quickly and she certainly knows how to suck a cock. condom on and we had a hot, sweaty shag that left us both panting. i opted to finish in her mouth and the sight of her on her knees asking for 'my juice' will stay in my wankbank for a long time. after jerking off for a long time while she worked my balls i fired into her waiting mouth.

very hot session. and an almost certain repeat.

after dinner (fish, potatos and veg. pretty good). round 3.

there was a heavily tattooed, dark haired girl circulating all afternoon. i really liked the look of her but whenever she was free i wasn't ready for action. i was approached by her and a second girl who were offering a threesome but i wasn't in the mood for more 2 girl action so i just grabbed my choice and headed upstairs.

[b]anikka from germany [/b]

4th german girl of the day, again not 100% on the name and no picture on the 'site. she is a very striking girl; tall, long dark hair, big fake tits and loads of tattoos. the 2 most distinctive are a huge marilyn monroe portrait on her thigh and a padlock just above her pussy.

wow is the only word to describe this session. the very definition of a pse. hot, sweaty, nasty sex. she offered anal and after being hypnotized by her perfect asshole in reverse cowgirl i had to have a go. she said that i was the first guy to fuck her in the ass that day so to take things slowly. after we both lubed up she started off on top, gently easing herself down onto my cock and letting it slide into her ass. gentlemen, i was in sex heaven. her ass gripped my cock as she slowly rolled her hips. once she had loosened up a bit we switched to doggie and i was able to build up a nice but of speed and pound her perfect ass. after an amazing few minutes i had my third (and strongest) orgasm of the day deep inside her bum.

what a great session and what a great girl. definite repeat.

i took a well deserved break, smoked some cigarettes and just enjoyed the scenery. the place was really busy now and there were loads of beautiful women walking the floor. i'd been looking out for my favourite girl ciaara (short blonde hair, big tits, loads of tats) but there was no sign of her. i think i'll have to accept she might have left the a. i haven't seen her in either of my last visits. oh well. i'll have to find a new favourite.

i wasn't sure if i had another session in me but i'm not likely to be back in berlin for several months so decided to go for it.

i've had a few sessions with amalia in the last year. and i've always had a great time. i grabbed her in the bar and after a great chat we headed upstairs.

[b]amalia from romania[/b]

this session started really slowly because i was really shagged out but once i was hard we had a lot of fun. after a few positions it was clear that i wasn't going to cum from sex so i pulled out and told amalia i just wanted jack off while she played with her self. she smiled and said no problem.

so while she fingered her pussy and squeezed her nipples i stroked my cock. after a while she started playing with my balls and she let her fingers drift slowly towards my ass. i let her know that what she was doing felt reaaaaaaly good so she took a condom from her bag, rolled it onto 2 her fingers, squirted some lube on and eased it slowly into my ass. i know this isn't everyones cup of tea but a beautiful girl working your prostate while you jack off is one of the finest sexual thrills imaginable. after a couple of short minutes i came hard and long. easily one of the best orgasms i've ever had.

we headed back downstairs and i gave her a big tip. definite repeat. amazing girl.

that was the end of my day. i left around 23. 00 so i missed all the action with the guns and the cops.

a very successful and enjoyable visit. counting the days until i return.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1316693]You have asked this now twice. She`s very nice, great, not often there. What more do you want to know?[/QUOTE]Everything you can Tell me about her. Service especially

[QUOTE=Enissay;1316868]Everything you can Tell me about her. Service especially[/QUOTE]I have a thing about not revealing details as at some point, privacy is an issue for both sides. As I said she was great, GFE in the jargon, great DFK, great BJ and ball play, she was very responsive to me and one of my better sessions in a while. Isn't all that what "great" normally implies? We clicked. How she might be with you and visa versa is impossible to say. Unless of course you are her brother, boyfriend or pimp (LOL, I hope?). I think the subject now exhausted. Treat her right.

[QUOTE=Galazy;1316809]That was the end of my day. I left around 23. 00 so I missed all the action with the guns and the cops.[/QUOTE]Good solid report. But if you were there on Friday this was after the shoot out at OK Coral style action, which was in the early hours of Friday morning (Thursday night). I guess what many (at least I am) are wondering is if there was any visible extra security around, was the place buzzing with gossip or was it all very much business as usual?

AM

[QUOTE=BewerBung;1316631]I Had a great Time relaxing and having fun in Artemis.[/QUOTE]Good to hear. Might I suggest a few more details in your future reports? I mean at least tell us what you had for diner.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1317006]Good solid report. But if you were there on Friday this was after the shoot out at OK Coral style action, which was in the early hours of Friday morning (Thursday night). I guess what many (at least I am) are wondering is if there was any visible extra security around, was the place buzzing with gossip or was it all very much business as usual?

AM[/QUOTE]No extra security that I could see. It was the same girl on the front desk who was always there and no security on the door. I know that security is always low-key and we never see the security staff until they're needed so maybe we can't read too much into that. The atmosphere seemed fine and I didn't pick up any chatter or gossip about the events of the previous night.

Hey, Ill be visiting Artemis this fall. Arriving a Monday, hope this will be an ok day to visit the club. Hope the line up is pretty good. When it comes to Fkk experience, I would say that I feel pretty confident. Although I haven't mongered for that long. My first and only fkk visit was to the Palace. Really love that club. Can I espect the lineup to be just as good as the lineup I find in the Palace? I really hope so. I cont care so much for the food the most important is the girls. And of course some nice and clean facilities. I have read that I can find a lot of different nationalites in Artemis. I would say that one can find pretty much everything in the Palace as well. I have nothing bad to say about the line up in Palace, although the mayority is Romanian. But they look really nice! One think I don't look forward to, is to pay more money for everything. Entrance. 10 euros more per 30 min session and 110 euros for an hour no (?) and of course the shooting recently is not a nice PR for the club But I guess I should just relax and enjoy me time, without thinking too much. Its just euros.

So after a trip to the U. S, visiting different stripclubs. And after meeting an absoulutely stunning african american women in a strip club in L. A, I have kind of got interested in african-american girls. As I don't expect to find african american girls in an european fkk, I should probably say black girl. From Latin America or Africa. This african american girl was just amazing. So sweet and sexy. Her face was just like Rihannas, with beautiful eyes. She was a little darker than Rihanna. She had maybe a be cup. And her ass was so nice. I have only fucked one black girl in my life. That was a brazilian girl in Lisboa. Really nice experience I must admit. I actually only like smallish black girl, not to big or tall. With femenine voice. And I don't like the ass to be too big, If you know what I mean. I like black girls with european asses! Hehe. So my question is: Can some of you experienced Artemis visitors recommend such a girl? With nice service of course? Any names would really be apreciated. In the Palace you can find a couple of black girls, but I don't find them attractive. Its something about their voices I don't like. And when I'm at it, could you recommend some nice latinas as well?

Thank you!

Norwegian90

[QUOTE=Norwegian90; 1317116]Can some of you experienced Artemis visitors recommend such a girl? With nice service of course? Any names would really be apreciated.[/QUOTE]Not being an expert (only visited Artemis about 10 or so times) nor local, I recall a very nice session with Pearl from Ghana last March. I don't know if she is still around. She is tall, though, and you have to prepare yourself to haggle over the money (time spent in room, for example) , but she seems smart, talks perfect English, has a tight, slim body and provides a nice combination of GFE / PSE.

Here is a link to my report (March 2012) :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1260189&viewfull=1#post1260189[/url]

[QUOTE]find a couple of black girls....Its something about their voices I don't like. And when I'm at it, could you recommend some nice latinas as well?[/QUOTE]N90.Well you are in luck as there are occasionally 2 black girls at the Bahnhoff who are also Latinas. One is a Brasilian, but I forget her name, but quite nice. The other hottie is Cuban, I think Stella, even nicer.

Both are slim, very curvy esp Stella though her's are los boltos, kind of longish or at least shoulder length hair. The problem is schedules are irregular and since your dates are well into the future, you will just have to see. All I can say is in principle, it is doable. Monday nights generally slower but if they are around they will be there, then, as they sleep upstairs.

On the voice bit. The only sure solution would be to make a recording of your favorite sister whispering what ever wiggles your wurst, and play it back through headphones during the bunga bunga session. I had Kimino record himself singing the old Zucchero Paul Young hit "Senso Madonna", we upped it to an iPod, and it boosts my bone even when Bulgarians burst in bearing blank guns.

[QUOTE=Kurre; 1317172]Not being an expert (only visited Artemis about 10 or so times) nor local, I recall a very nice session with Pearl from Ghana last March. I don't know if she is still around. She is tall, though, and you have to prepare yourself to haggle over the money (time spent in room, for example) , but she seems smart, talks perfect English, has a tight, slim body and provides a nice combination of GFE / PSE.

Here is a link to my report (March 2012) :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1260189&viewfull=1#post1260189[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks Kurre. Sounds great. If I should go with a black girl I like them kind of thin, but with some curves. Not to tall.

[QUOTE=Norwegian90; 1317116]Hey, Ill be visiting Artemis this fall. Arriving a Monday, hope this will be an ok day to visit the club.

Entrance. 10 euros more per 30 min session and 110 euros for an hour no (?) [/QUOTE]I have no idea what line-up will look like in fall. Monday is a slower day, Sunday and Monday have special discounts for retired people and cab drivers.

About the pricing: Every 30min session is 60 EUR, so 60min are 120 EUR. Extras (CIM) are 50 EUR.

HB

Seems I missed all the action on Thursday the one and only time I visit Artemis, [url]phewww[/url] Close one there I'd say!

Arrived about one in the afternoon and stayed until about just after 11pm and guys iv got to say this is one of the most enjoyable times of my life.

As I say iv never been to a Fkk club before iv been to many so called saunas here in the uk but this was like heaven compared to the uk version of saunas.

Arrive at the front door to be greeted by the hostess at reception who informed me of the rules and prices, as I was payin door fee I just lifted my head to be greeted by the most wonderful sight of at least 6 fully naked lovelies just standing at the lockers waiting to be paid for their services, I could'nt wait to get changed and get in there so to speak. Got changed had shower then surveyed the upstairs bar area and [url]wowwwww[/url] What a sight, there is a god after all, I'd say there must have been at least 50 girls on all walking here and there. I went down stairs to the wellness area had some drink and a chillout when I was approached for the first time by a thai girl now I'm not good at remembering names but I think it was Iris who had nipples you could hang a wet winters coat off of they were that big, we got talking were she gave the hard sell that she would do me the best time of my life shit I thought yeah yeah where have I heard that 1 before, anyway as I was sitting chatting to her her hand slips inside my robe and starts to grip hold of my cock and starts to play with it, so I went with the flow and have to say after a while I took her upstairs and yeah she did as she promised but I wouldn't say it was the time of my life above average at best 60 euro gone but hey.

After some rest in the sauna and lazing about in the pool I was sitting in the loungers when a girl from Bulgaria just sat astride me gave me the same chat as the thai and I was a little more cautious but I said no politley and off she went. Sat there for a while batting off all these visions of hotness I thought to myself I feel like Rodger Federer at tennis batting away all these girls, then a stunner came my way Marie I think her name from Bulgaria again, more chat then the hand inside the robe, this was manna from heaven LOL promised the works in the room and boyyyy she delivered big style blonde hair pert tits nice bum tight pusst which was surprising as she would be fucked at least 10 to 20 times a day. In the room started off with BBBJ then was time for me to DATY woww sweet tasting after some time on with the condom in the mouth for a perfect roll on, had her doggy and her little ass hole was just so inviting I gave it a little poke with my finger to gauge response had no complaints so slid it in a little more and as I was pounding away she was letting out moans the deeper I went after 10mins I just exploaded in her soaking pussy fell on the bed knackered cleaned up and off we went. Had some more rest then time for dinner, after dinner had a wonder about again and settled in the kino for some porn, this was a good choice as the porn on offer was REAL girls sucking cock riding away till their hearts were content. As I sat there the stream of girls passing by was fantastic more and more were asking for me to go upstairs 1 on 1 2 on 1 even 3 on 1 I thought I'm dreaming LOL. As I sat in the kino a couple of girls from Poland wanted me to take them in the kino beds but I was resting and said later, then later 1 of them came back long dyed blonde hair tits not huge but just nice amazing ass on her I took her so we sat in the kino where she started to blow me off in front of everyone walkin past fuck it I thought go with the flow so I just let her get on with it by this time I was lookin for sum anal fun and she said she didn't really do anal but would give it a try if I wasnt to big, well I didn't think I was till she said I was to thick for her tiny little ass hole I was gutted but to my surprise she sais she would do it so off we went to the kino room she asked if her friend could watch I had no problem with that LOL after shagging her doggy she lubed up her ass and in I went with caution her friend just stood there saying it won't fit I was saying it will so it it went and she let out a scream but as I got in 2 my stride she was enjoying it and askin me to pound her harder half way through her friend asked me to pull out to see how wide her ass hole was and when I did she said it looked wider than Karl Marx Allee LOL. By this time I was getting well and trully knackered and was just about to leave when I was coming upstairs wen I saw a hot little babe short dark hair no tits and I meen no tits but what I would call 2 amazing toasted marshmallows for nipples and I was wanting to munch on them, so I gave myself half hout to rest then went to find her she was just going upstairs with some 1 so hae to wait but it was worth it, in the room BBBJ munched away on those nipples and had a hot sex session.

This wa smy first time in a Fkk sauna and if only the laws in the UK were more like they are in Germany I'd die a happy chap. Artemis and Berlin I salute you on your hospitality and hope to return ASAP.

Del

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1317180]N90. there are occasionally 2 black girls at the Bahnhoff who are also Latinas. One is a Brasilian, the other hottie is Cuban, I think Stella, even nicer[/QUOTE]N90-The current Berlin heat wave frying my feeble brain- Stella is actually named Bella, and she may divorce me for this error. Her picture on the Artemis website. The photo does not show her of mixed blood, but she is as well as being one of the prettiest girls in the Bahnhoff, and she rocks.

Hi everyone,

I've read and visited this forum several times anonymously but never gotten around to give anything in return (and that had no sexual innuendo). But this last weekend I had a great experience in Berlin and especially at Artemis so I thought, we-ell, it just might give someone some info that hasn't been covered before (even though I doubt it). This might come on as long and tiresome, and for that I apologize. Also, do note that English isn't my native tounge.

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So here it goes and mind you, it's free to stop reading my ramblings at any time;

I arrived to Berlin at around lunch-ish or so last Friday. Nice day. Warm, sunny. Checked in, boozed up from the local supermarket. Not super-over-the-counter-drunk but enough to get my nerves in order for my first FKK visit. Well, I have to admit that the reports of shootings didn't help the nerves nor my liver. I'm not especially well equipped for situations containing guns in general and stark naked with pink slippers I'm not going to outrun anyone (of that with pink slippers I did ofc not know yet. And why do we lesser equipped people, foot-wise only mind you, deserve that hideous color?).

Got to Artemis at around 3 in the afternoon. As previously mentioned I didn't see any extra security (or heard any rumors or comments about it from any guest, staff or girl). Was asked as everyone else if I had been there before, I chose to go down the lying path and said yes. Got robe, plastic band, a key and off I went into the abyss. I was a tad bit surprised how fairly busy the place was at that hour on a regular workday. There were quite a few Italians and Swedes. Some locals ofc and a couple of probably Japanese origin. Most minding their own business with 'gangs' of Italian and Swedes standing out with raised voices and more alpha male tendencies as it gets when in a group and the hierarchy has to be laid out. The east European streak with guns blazing I didn't see much of. The lineup of girls was pretty good but of the reports judging here I thought that it might get better and it did just that later after 5-6. But with a few drinks under the vest, not having jacked off for a while, threw me under the bus and I succumbed to the first big tittied blonde that lay her shark eyes upon me.

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Jessie:

Half German, half Polish. Blonde. Great tits. Face to die for. In short, what you would call a true optifick (ay why yes I picked that abbr. Up quickly). We agreed on half an hour, she pleaded quite aggressively before heading to the room for 3somes and extras but I at least had the coolness to avoid that pitfall. When she said 3some I asked with whom, and she just pointed randomly at the bar in the lounge with an expression that clearly said that she didn't really care. That gave me the feeling this wasn't going to be great but at that time my brain wasn't fully in charge.

When we got to the room she didn't want to do any DFK and after getting my cock up and running she went gunning for it before I could even think of DATY or such. Then after about 1 minute (not kidding, I had a watch on me) riding my stiff friend she just jumped off and mumbled that I should do the rest. She decided that we were going to do it doggy style and lucky me I was in such nervous state that I could have gotten a place in American Pie 47 so I came pretty quickly regardless. She bolted almost immediately for the door even though it couldn't have passed more than 10 minutes total since we entered the room. A little tea and sympathy cuddle would've been nice to make up for the lesser stellar performance on both sides but nope. I paid her the agreed 60euros and decided to be more careful afterwards. Less dick, more brain. In a way, I guess I would've unloaded fast and easy on the first one regardless. Maybe it was just good I got the first shot of at someone I didn't really care about not doing so great with.

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I went downstairs and took a seat amongst the sofas around the smaller bar. This sort of became my home during that stay (and the next visit on Sunday). I don't like being in the center of attention as you are in the lounge plus the smoke there is awful. You do miss a lot of the girls and the ones wandering down might not always be the best. So heed a fair warning to those seeking to go that route.

I quite rapidly saw how most girls work that wandered around. They almost all had the scent of prey pumping through them and the standard icebreaker was 'Is this your first time here? ' to which I quickly added 'Of course not. I've been here many times before. ' I don't know if this is so standard as I experienced it or if it was my more shy approach in a corner with an innocent look upon me that attracted them to open with that line as much as they did. I then most often continued saying that liked sex with DATY, DFK etc which is quite difficult to do towards someone not used being talked back at and in a language they don't quite comprehend fully. If they then responded with saying something like 'We are going to have a party. You and me baby. Come on. Sexy party for you' on broken eastern-Romanian-accent I almost screamed NEIN DANKE for fear of a new shark-attack on my lower loins.

Most of the time my humble apologizes let me of the hook quite easily, and none became actually aggressive or such as I've read that some as experienced. But turning down girls as pretty as a midsummer eves dream isn't for the fainthearted and it took a while to get used to that (if I ever did).

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Betty:

Hungarian. Red hair semi-length. Quite small tits. A bit older, forgotten exactly how old but probably around 30 I guess. Not the prettiest among the girls but she had a lovely smile and seemed to have a very nice personality. When she approached me she asked for permission to enter my private sphere by waving and smiling, much more to my liking than how other interacted. I was intrigued and she complied with my wish to have more GFE sex with DATY and DFK. I took a chance with her and it paid off big time. Perfect session with great passion and both enjoying themselves. I actually do believe she came in the mere half hour we were at it, quite an accomplishment as I see it with how it usually ends for me and a working girl. Last I heard (not from her directly though) she's back in Hungary now. I can definitely recommend this girl if you come upon her again at Artemis and isn't afraid of trying something that might not look quite up to par with the rest optificks.

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After these things get a bit blurry on the details and in which order they came in, but I remember turning down lots more women (now it was past that 5-6 hour mark) and I ate some too. Not that good in all honest opinion and I had trouble keeping my focus on the food if you know what I mean.

One of the persons I had turned down was the most petite woman I had seen in there since I arrived. And I can't for the life of me remember her name afterwards other than her 'nickname'. She was only 1. 50 meters tall with quite large tits on such small body. What caught my eye was the personality that was rather cheeky and she seemed to have a strange humor about her that bubbled up. After I had turned her down very easy with the phrase 'Maybe later? ', since I was still resting from Betty, she said that she was going to stay upstairs and I had to come get her when I was ready. Then when she walked away she turned around and did that hand sign with two fingers from her eyes towards me and shouted 'I'm watching you! ' – LOL. Such a little devil!

And of course the nickname went hand in hand with her personality. 'Everyone knows about me! I'm the smallest girl here! Even smaller than all the thai. Ask anyone about mini-muschi and they'll know who you're talking about'. Now please correct me with her name as she fully deserves it and I'll continue to stay in the corner ashamed.

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Sammy and Mini-muschi:

Both are German if I remember correctly. As I said before, I can't for the lives of me remember her name other than the nickname that she taught me. But I knew when I met up with her and her girlfriend Sammy (whom I had not seen before) wandering around a bit later that I had to have her. And by God did it just make me more intrigued because the sight of her wandering around with Sammy who is 1. 80 tall, with heels almost 2 meters was so quirky that I didn't know where to look. If I hadn't been so shy I would've laughed right out, which I later did, together with them. They really did remind you of Laurel and Hardy and with me at 1. 70 we looked like triplets.

When I met up with her she was keen on getting with me as she had not forgotten about our previous agreement. When this happened Sammy walked away and then I noticed her big bad ass tattoo on her back. Wow! What an amazon of a woman. She looked like as if she could toss me into the shark tank with a yawn. Ofc mini-muschi saw my eyes gorging at her girlfriend walking away and quickly saw the opportunity to cash in on it and ran after her so I ended up with a 3some, a tad bit unplanned as I had not that much cash with me to make it a 1 hour lesbian ultra-deluxe event.

Nonetheless, both girls have raven black hair and piercings (mini-muschi had fore example one on her over lip and both had their muschis vajazzled if I remember correctly). Quite large titties on both. Looking at Sammys pictures now on Artemis website makes me wonder if she hasn't made an upgrade since those photos was taken. But my mind might be playing tricks with me.

With this setup laid out we made way to the room. I really, really liked both girls' personalities. I can see why they hung around each other because they had the same type of quirkiness about them. It was refreshing to have someone with self-distance at your hands just as long as you also play ball. When it comes to the actual sex, and not everything before and after, it was to be honest quite disappointment set in relation to how great everything else was. I think they might be more sharks in that regard that the service goes up with the price. When I wasn't willing to pay for extras, the personality was there but the DATY and DFK never came into play. I still wonder if it would have, had I had the money for extras.

But I'm not complaining that much. It was a good suck and fuck with two gorgeous women. So being my first 3some I did alright but I don't think they got so much out of it. Afterwards they hung around and had a smoke (I really don't like it but with those two, it's hard to resist the devil.). We laughed at so many things and mini-muschi taught me her nickname.

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After that I was completely beat and hade about 5 euros left in my wallet. I went back to town for more alcohol and some sleep. Next day, Saturday, I went to Monrouge and had a lovely session with a Spanish lass named Maria (they all seem to have that name). I might add an entry about it in the Berlin-thread since it was so great. I also had the chance to drink more beer with some scousers.

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On Sunday I woke up and as suspected was pretty beat up and hung over. This much sex and alcohol in 36 hours wasn't my body really impressed with. I swallowed painkillers with more booze and hit the streets. And boy was it warm. I'm not kidding you. I melted to the ground as I made my way to Artemis again. This was about noon and it was already way pass 30 degrees. It was my walk to Golgotha, paying for my sins at which I had and was to embark upon.

Arriving at Artemis on a Sunday at noon was a strange feeling. It was more or less deserted. There were perhaps 2 other persons in the changing rooms besides me. I showered and made my way downstairs by pure routine. All the girls seemed aware as to the fact that 'If a bloke shows up here on a Sunday at noon, he's a pro and no shark material' so they avoided you much more cautiously. Or perhaps I didn't give away that much prey scent any longer (or perhaps too much booze scent.).

Anyhow, I sat down at the bar and watched some reruns of fussball on the TV and read my book. Yes, this time I remembered to bring a book. Best thing ever to have if you want to look busy and avoid girls approaching you –key lesson learned. After an hour or so, at around 2 things started to get almost boring and I was trying make up my mind what to do. I thought about looking for one of the earlier Friday girls (not Jessie) but before that I felt a hand in my neck and soft voice like an angel whispered in my ear 'What are you reading'.

This was Nina. We-ell. I don't think I need to introduce her any further than has already been done by so many. Her eyes, her slender body. Yummy. She wanted to go to the Kino and why, that sounded like a great idea to me. We talked a bit. We had both our first sessions with each other and she got a bit more relaxed with that. She did BBBJ and let me play with her and did some kissing and cuddling. But no DFK, neither there nor later in the room. I don't know if this is common standard with her, but surprised me a little. I've had my experience with BJ in an open environment but this was extraordinary good. And to do it in front of a porno was a nice icing on the cake let me tell you that.

Later in the room she let me do full DATY and I enjoyed it too much until she nearly ripped my head off and said panting 'no more. Now fuck! ' and she strapped on the condom and I wanted to do missionary and look into her lavishly beautiful eyes. I didn't last too long after all that new excitement with Kino etc so I didn't think she came but she had seemed to be very close and had enjoyed it a lot. Her eyes rolled back at the end so. Close with such a pro is good enough for me. If half of what is said here is true I'm glad I made it that far and it made me memory for life. I gave her a good sized tip just for the sake of encouraging such professionalism.

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If I had been on the verge of breaking down before and during my transport to Artemis, the hours after my session with Nina kind of reminded me of Dantes inferno where my whole body screamed at me that it has had enough. I lingered around trying to muster the energy to go out with a bang. I was betting all on one horse and hoped for my body and mind to not give up. It was going to be a 3some with all the bells and whistles I had missed out on last Friday with Sammy and Mini-muschi.

At this point I also had hoped that the pace would've picked up slightly when it came to the woman. The standard was still pretty low, and I couldn't find anyone I had previously been with so I sat down in the lounge and swung at all the sharks that troddled pass. I was just about beginning to see it as a sign of that maybe I should leave it at that when I heard a voice calling that echoed of something interesting.

It was Brigitta from Hungary. Such lovely eyes (greenish?) , huge tits, blond hair and a rad tattoo that covered her arm. Oh boy I thought. This might be my chance. She hurried along and found her friend Evelyn. I had seen her before, on my Friday visit but hadn't had any session with her. Also from Hungary, brown hair and eyes. Big tits. Older than most other (35 I think, Brigitta was 29-30 or such) but had a nice and caring personality. We talked a bit about this and that. And when I said I had been with Nina they both responded with 'so you where that guy in the kino earlier'. And I was like WTF? But didn't pursue it further how they knew about that, I figured they must have walked by and seen us. Or maybe Nina had gossiped about that crazy dude that wouldn't stop licking her muschi! LOL.

Anyway. We agreed to go upstairs together and decided to go flat out with 1 hour and lesbian. DATY and DFK was no problem with either and they were both much more passionate and cuddly then my previous 3some. Things started off great. Damn this was the time of my life. They did BBBJ on me and had lesbian sex with each other while I both watched and helped them out. The lesbian act was a little staged and robotic sometimes if you want to be fussy but I wasn't complaining.

Then the reality of having had sex with at that time 8 different women in less than 48 hours crept up on me. The heat, bloody warm in the room, all the alcohol and some painkillers on top of that (nonprescription mind you, not a bloody junkie, took it for the headache) and then performing like a stallion of my dreams with these babes. If only I had just fainted. That would've been OK. But no, I had to go on top of one of the girls and then start bleeding like a pig from the nose. Mein gott.

As that happened I saw my life swoosch by as I was hoisted of the roof by some security guard who thought I was trying to spread HIV like a roaring elephant squirting water from his trunk. I literally dove of the bed away from the girls in shame, fear and all at once for not wanting them getting blood-sprayed. I was literally looking like that guy Randy in HIMYM that became Barney's wingman and got a nose bleed every time he gets an erection. Fan-fucking-tastic I thought to myself lying half of the bed not knowing if I should try and outrun everyone in my pink flipflops (as I had said earlier, wasn't my cup of tea) or scream sorry and hope for the best. I chose the latter. And then their motherly instincts kicked in and the brought me up, got me a wet towel and pampered me.

Now with some distance. That might be the best nose bleed in all of times. Two hot chicks throwing themselves at you and kissing you better again, I could think of worse possible scenarios (as I imagined with that security guard). We joked about it being a good call of me that I decided to go for the 1 hour since I now needed to rest for several minutes. Then they were both good sports and made me cum at least, while still lying on my back. Rest of the time they spent massaging and caring for me. So sort of not so bad in the end anyhow.

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Lessons learned:

Hungarian girls are lovely.

Need to be wary of the blonde, young Germans / Polish.

Most older chicks at Artemis seemed to be more pros and less sharks.

Bring book to read and thus preventing to find a spot in ceiling when avoiding eye contact with sharks.

And for the love of God, don't mix alcohol, extreme heat and 8 girls in 48 hours.

/Peter, who will be back in his pink slippers. But hopefully without a bleeding nose.

[QUOTE=Norwegian90;1317181]Thanks Kurre. Sounds great. If I should go with a black girl I like them kind of thin, but with some curves. Not to tall.[/QUOTE]There was a very nice darker lady there called I think Asia. Not sure of her origins but she seemed to be what you are looking for.

Meanwhile I cannot get back into Europe (Schengen states) for another 3 months so will sadly miss the very lovely lasses at Artemis.

I was been two days to the Artemis.

Arriving around 12, 00 and exit around 1 a. M.

In these two days I met 9 girls (1 twice) and this is my ranking.

1) Betsy 30 ys. Or. Poland

2) Caterine 27y. Or. Siberia

3) Girl from Latvia (I don't remember the name) 25 ys. Or.

4) Guendalina 30 ys. Or. Poland.

My advice: stay away from German and Polish young blond.

[QUOTE=Sdrumm;1318072]I was been two days to the Artemis. Arriving around 12, 00 and exit around 1 a. M.[/QUOTE]As Angus replied last week to another spartan report, can't you at least describe each of the girls, and (briefly) what was good or not so? It really is a help to the Forum. I understand writing is more difficult in a second, non-native language, but yours is fine. You saw 9 but only list 4 (with 1 repeat so that's 5-what about the rest? And why the pretty odd comment about avoiding certain countries and hair types, presumably among the missing 4 you did not report on? The rest of us are of course grateful you have freed them up. My weekly shopping list has more info than yours. If you go to the trouble to post, why not make it a little more helpful? Thanks.

When an Artemis or any othe FKK girl is g 3-some I politly decline the offer and her services and I explain to her that until she tried to push the 3-some I was interested in her but no more.

A working girl that respect you and your time shouldn't push for that.

Gents,

Can anyone name their top 5 optik fu#k at Artemis right this moment, I know girls come and go. Looking to visit

Artemis after a 12 months gap from 5-9 September.

Any stunning 10/10 I should look out for.

I promise to report back on in-room performance and attitude.

Simex.

[QUOTE=Didi Vise; 1318315]When an Artemis or any othe FKK girl is g 3-some I politly decline the offer and her services and I explain to her that until she tried to push the 3-some I was interested in her but no more.

A working girl that respect you and your time shouldn't push for that.[/QUOTE]

Optifik is a pretty subjective thing. What does it for me might very well not do it for you. That said, as far as I am concerned Lia, a tall German blond with legs that go on forever. Her service is good but not great in that you are unlikely t forget that it is a paid session. But she is shockingly beautiful in my opinion.

[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Lia.jpg[/url]

AM.

[QUOTE=Simex; 1318331]Gents,

Can anyone name their top 5 optik fu#k at Artemis right this moment, I know girls come and go. Looking to visit

Artemis after a 12 months gap from 5-9 September.

Any stunning 10/10 I should look out for.

I promise to report back on in-room performance and attitude.

Simex.[/QUOTE]

Thank you AM. Lia on my list to do.

If any of you guys are in Zurich. Nora my definition of a 10/10.

[url]http://www.beatrice-privat.ch/detail.php?girl=143[/url]

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1318337]Optifik is a pretty subjective thing. What does it for me might very well not do it for you. That said, as far as I am concerned Lia, a tall German blond with legs that go on forever. Her service is good but not great in that you are unlikely t forget that it is a paid session. But she is shockingly beautiful in my opinion.

[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Lia.jpg[/url]

AM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Simex; 1318331]Gents,

Can anyone name their top 5 optik fu#k at Artemis right this moment, I know girls come and go. Looking to visit

Artemis after a 12 months gap from 5-9 September.

Any stunning 10/10 I should look out for.

I promise to report back on in-room performance and attitude.

Simex.[/QUOTE]Opti-5.

Hillary, Lia, Jenna, Brigitta, Katherina

[QUOTE=Simex; 1318331]Gents,

Can anyone name their top 5 optik fu#k at Artemis right this moment, I know girls come and go. Looking to visit

Artemis after a 12 months gap from 5-9 September.

Any stunning 10/10 I should look out for.

I promise to report back on in-room performance and attitude.

Simex.[/QUOTE]I am loyal to Nina,

My visits to Berlin are so rare that I actually miss her service and smile.

[QUOTE=Didi Vise; 1318433]I am loyal to Nina,

My visits to Berlin are so rare that I actually miss her service and smile.[/QUOTE]Not to quibble words but to me Nina is not at all an Optifik. She is a naturally beautiful woman and her service is great. An optifik usually implies that even if the service is not that great (as I say, with Lia you are unlikely to forget that it is a paid session) you fuck her anyway-if only for the optical pleasure.

That said, if you are looking for a natural beauty who is intelligent, a good conversationalist and who is actually a great lay- yes, Nina is your girl. Or one of them ;)

AM

Just for you mongers planning on an Artemis trip soon, in 2 weeks, the massive Berlin Consumer Electronics Trade Fair
[url]http://b2b.ifa-berlin.com/en/ [/url] runs officially from 31 Aug-5 Sept. The 3 nights Thursday 30 Aug- Sat 1 Sept will be massively, insanely busy at the Liebe Bahnhoff, amongst the busiest days of the year. You will be able to tell the most popular girls from the smoke pouring out of their various orifi. And all that viewing of Ultrabook vibrators, 200 inch flat screen TVs, not to mention internet connected dishwashers etc makes everyone massively horny (as if they needed much prodding), and still allow them to write off the trip as a business expense.

There can be new talent in for the onslaught, but it does get pretty insufferable at night with long waits for rooms, even long ques to just get in the front door, all systems and providers stressed to the max, etc. The trick is to get in, and out, early (like 14:30-20:30) , as has actually been covered earlier in this here Forum, if you search for it. Plan accordingly. And guns won't help you.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1318519]And all that viewing of Ultrabook vibrators. 200 inch flat screen TVs, not to mention internet connected dishwashers etc makes everyone massively horny (as if they needed much prodding) , and still allow them to write off the trip as a business expense.

There can be new talent in for the onslaught, but it does get pretty insufferable at night with long waits for rooms, even long ques to just get in the front door, all systems and providers stressed to the max, etc. The trick is to get in, and out, early (like 14:30-20:30) , as has actually been covered earlier in this here Forum, if you search for it. Plan accordingly. And guns won't help you.[/QUOTE]You forgot the smokin hot models in TIGHT overalls that tries to persuade you to try out a Philips shaving machine!

That can give you naughty ideas for sure! Else, I can just concur to the strategy you describe. Go early, beat the rush. Then you can watch the scene later for amusement. I'll be there from 30 Aug, that first night use to be good, like a (nude) dress rehearsing for the weekend for the girls.

Anyone else having similar plans?

Blue

So I finally made my way to Artemis. I was there on a Monday (20 August 2012) as previously mentioned in this thread. Landed at Tegel and it was 34 deg Celcius outside and I thought, I hope the heat does not interfere my FKK Artemis experience. Reached my hotel, parked my suitcases and then headed out to the nearest Strassebahn station. Got onto the S42 (ring line) and was at Westkreuz station in about 20-25 minutes. I had seen Angus's video on YouTube a day before I left, so it was quite easy to get out of the station and make my way to Artemis without any problems. Walked into Artemis and the lady at the reception was quite helpful (contrary to some of the reports earlier). I told her that it was my first time at Artemis and she explained the pricing and how the keys worked. Paid my €80, got a yellow robe and key strap. Kept my wallet and mobile phone in the small locker and then my clothes went in the larger locker. Took a shower and then entered the main bar area. It was a bit dark for me, but then I got accustomed to the low light in a few minutes. I noticed that the place was quite deserted. A few guys sitting on the sofas and a 2-3 girls around the bar. Grabbed a drink and then went around a quick survey of the area. No one in both kinos, almost all rooms empty, I thought have I made a mistake by coming early. Anyways I was there, so sat at the bar for a while and then realized that dinner was served (it was 1830 hrs). Had dinner, which was okay, nothing great, but filling. Had some fruit, soup and pasta. Around 1900 hrs I noticed more girls started coming it, but still more guys than girls. So it was time to pick my first girl for the night.

A) Dina / Deena from Slovakia. She waved at me from across the bar and came over for a chat. Had a nice chat with her and she was quite attentive, which is always a good sign. So off we went for a 5 min Kino BJ and then headed off the zimmer. 30 min, €60 well spent. Would repeat.

Be) Mila from Latvia. I was eyeing her all night. She had a cute face and the body type that I like, so I approached her, she was sitting on the sofa next to the bar. A quick talk and off we went to the kino and then to the zimmer. 30 min, €60 well spent. Would repeat.

See) Nadina from Hungary. Cute, short and had a nice pert ass. Talked to her at the bar, then the sofa. Her body was calling me, but her attitude was putting me off. I soldiered on and said lets go. No kino pre-show as she does not do that and that had some alarm bells ringing, but I said lets go on. In the zimmer, she was a bit mechanical and as soon as I was about to come, she up-sells CIM, which put me off, so I cut it short there and pay her the €60.

During my stay, I saw a lot of fake tits (I would say one out of three tits there were fake). There were girls who were trying to offer me a threesome and were not ready to take no for an answer. I had to back off and say that I was not into two girls (a blatant lie). There was also this blonde girl with a tattoo on her left ribcage area that I wanted to go with, but by the time I go to her, she already was taken (and gave this guy quite a good BJ in the kino). There were two other German girls that I chatted with (forgot their names) , who I would have gone with, but it was almost past midnight and I had to leave as I had a important meeting the next day.

I like Artemis and would consider going there again, but would still maintain that Oase is my favorite FKK till date.

[QUOTE=Krazydude;1319539]So I finally made my way to Artemis. .I would say one out of three tits there were fake.[/QUOTE]KrazyD, I think you are right on this, especially if they were all on one girl.

I was at the pre IFA Arts show Fri night 24 Aug, and I hate to admit it, but I left early 9pm ish, un-gepopped. Just the same old same old, lots of regulars back, but I just had the feeling that I have done it all and the vibe at the moment is so uneven. For non-regulars it is fine, but IMHO, serious new blood is needed. Just tired of all the young silly girls. The private bordellos at the moment have some cracking good alternatives and I shall be doing that for quite a while.

Also, the little shooting thing was a bit more serious than first reported, even though blanks indeed were involved, and all took place in the parking lot, not inside the building. But 2 of the security guards were hurt (one was shot 4 times in the back and was walking around with the bandages on Fri night. The other was hit on the side near in the stomach point blank, and required surgery. Apparently his liver was barely missed. However, it seems one of the perps was a regular at the Bahnhoff, and he was I'd'd and all faces recorded on video. I asked around and there were rumours that they were caught but no one wanted to really talk about it (duh). Anyway a nasty business. The whole thing just got me down, and added to the "what is the point" feeling that compelled me to saddle up and git oudda town. I am sure occasional visitors won't feel all this and will enjoy themselves.

Regarding the shooting, howvcan you get hurt from blanks?

Something sounds fishy.

[QUOTE=Didi Vise;1319825]Regarding the shooting, howvcan you get hurt from blanks?[/QUOTE]Not much into guns and gun lore but google is my friend.

Here is how. Not only can you be injured but being killed is not unheard of.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blank_[/url] (cartridge) #Safety.

And some cautionary tales from the film industry.

[url]http://propguys.com/gundanger/[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Didi Vise; 1319825]Regarding the shooting, howvcan you get hurt from blanks?

Something sounds fishy.[/QUOTE]Not 100% sure on the mechanics of it but from my time in the army any time we were using blank rounds on exercise there was a and attachment fitted to the muzzel of our rifles to make it safer.

[QUOTE=Jock180;1319847]Not 100% sure on the mechanics of it but from my time in the army any time we were using blank rounds on exercise there was a and attachment fitted to the muzzel of our rifles to make it safer.[/QUOTE]It would seem, based on the story we know, the Bulgarian hit squad forgot to attach this. Now perhaps, back to our regularly scheduled program.

How bad are things right now with the IFA going on? Planing a big weekend in a weeks time (getting to Berlin on Friday) , but worried about the ratio. Last weekend (Sat) at the otherwise amazing GT waiting time for rooms was 45 mins, and by the time you made your way across to one of the Russian blondies, some flying Dutchman had already pu up his tent (sorry for that one but could not resist).

Well we are still waiting for a report from some one who was there but the IFA does end on Wednesday so things will no doubt quiet down a bit. That said, September does tend to be a busier month all round.

AM.

[QUOTE=Don Christiano;1322390]How bad are things right now with the IFA going on? Planing a big weekend in a weeks time (getting to Berlin on Friday) , but worried about the ratio. Last weekend (Sat) at the otherwise amazing GT waiting time for rooms was 45 mins, and by the time you made your way across to one of the Russian blondies, some flying Dutchman had already pu up his tent (sorry for that one but could not resist).[/QUOTE]

First off, Sorry for the delayed report. This visit was on July 3, 11:30 to 5:00. I thought I had posted one after the trip, but recently looking back for my report Didn't find it. Only explanation is that I did not hit post button or something after review. Anyway since I had typed in original into a file, I am reposting with some. Edits given some info in newer reports on the forum.

For context, came from US to Berlin. First Trip of any kind to an FKK. Otherwise with some mongering experience in various places around the world (clubs, escorts, Massage parlors). I am an infrequent visitor to German (on business mainly). First trip to Berlin was in 2010 and had only time to do liberty, otherwise have been to Frankfurt RLD many years back and to Saarbrucken also in 2010. This is the lucky year as I am second time in Berlin already and will return in Nov. First trip to berlin in May this year was a sore disappointment, since stars didn't line up and I could not do any punting. In July gave myself extra day before return to make sure I made it to the heaven.

Got to Artemis at 11:30 on July 3, walking from Halensee Bahn reliving Angus's video. Construction was in swing in the Parking lot. It must be real difficult to focus for these guys. Might explain Tower of Pisa. Entry and locker routine as described here many times, all I can add is that guys on the forum haven't been making it all up.

First Impressions. Since I had watched all the videos and 3D tour and read the forum, the place felt very familiar. Only difference I noticed was that the facilites a bit older / less cleaner than what I imagined. But otherwise, was very impressed with the setup and ambience.

Environment. About 10 or so girls present and spotted 5-6 mongers on entry. But within an hour or so the club was buzzing with more mongers and girls. Holiday lineup has been covered here recently for July, which is probably what I encountered. On return, checking back on the website I could find very few girls from the names I had picked up at the club. Infact I could not find the 4 girls I did on the website. That said, I thought quality was good, majority seemed to be german (or said they were!) model types. Didn't find majority too pushy, and would take rejection nicely.

One girl (Lisa?) didn't take it quite well from me. Asked me to come sit with her on couch and proposed a session, When I told her I was resting she said Ciao and signaled to move off. When I left she said somehting in German, which quite sure was not a term of endearment.

Another interesting character was a girl with Xtra large fake boobs and tattos. She sat on couch most of the time I was there with cold looks. Never saw her talking to anyone or going to a session and she barely managed a smile as passerby's. Must have figured out a different business model! Well, I was quite tempted on number of occasions to let junior climb those two mountains of hers, but kept my head cool and avoided the frost bite.

In general, different girls had different approaches. Saw most of them walking and soliciting actively. Other than a couple didn't find anyone too pushy or nasty or Sharky.

Sessions. First one was a double take with Stella and Michela (?). Both Germans, Stella is from hamburg speaks fluent english, model type, golden blond and very pretty body and face with fake boobs. Michela was a stunning brunette mode GFE type, quiet and didn't speak much english. Stella seemed to be ring leader and Michela was following commands. As I entered the main bar area after arriving, Stella was sitting at the bar and called me out. We exchanged names etc and she immediately proposed a threesome with Mikela. I told her that I wanted to get something to eat first, she was nice enough to take me to cafeteria and told me to come look for her.

Although I wanted to scout more before hitting the first session, Michela would not get out of my mind. Came back to bar and asked Stella to go upstairs. Now threesome was on my list of things to do, but this didn't turn out to be much of lesbian business. Upstairs the room was a bit warm and only got hotter with pumping. The two girl session turned out to be complex, they cleaned junior to switch for BBBJ and changed condoms to switch. The girls weren't doing much to each other (other than handing condoms). Stella was in command in the room with all the talking and was directing Mikela to do stuff. After foreplay and BBBJ, Stella decided to ride me and started pumping fast thinking to getting me off quickly. But Junior was not in a mood to cooperate. Stella turned out to be lazy and gave up after just a bit, directing Mikela to take over. Mikela was absolutely stunning while riding with nice GFE corkscrew humping. Mikela doesn't speak much english but was fluent in Ooh baby / come on baby. Junior gave in after a bit. Overall 220 Es spent well. Would have repeated Mikela if I could find her alone.

Second one was Luna (austrian). Slim and pretty girl with petite tits and tattos in the back. She is more sporty / tomboyish type. After recovering, caught Luna downstairs and asked for BJ in Kino. Her BJ was a bit toothy, but she was looking in the eyes which as sexy. CIM finish after a bit in the Kino. During the session couple of mongers walked by, somewhat stunned at the happenings in the Kino. Although the porn movie was useless, the environment was erotic and first one for me. 110Es very well spent.

Last session was with Dalia. Was looking for a GFE type, and had my eyes for Carolina from Lithuania. But I could not find her at the time and had to leave (at 5PM) so settled for Dalia. She is German with turkish origin. Dark Haired, maybe a 7/10. The session started with BJ in Kino downstairs and then moved to the room next to kino. The session was OK, nothing great but nothing bad either. 110 E for CIM finish. Won't be very high on the repeat list.

Left Artemis at 5PM. Overall a great first time experience, would repeat during Nov Trip. Thanks to everyone for great info on the forum.

[QUOTE=Lucknow;1322915]Sessions. First one was a double take with Stella and Michela (?).[/quote]Michela = Michelle. Some days ago a similar session was described (see post 4074).

[QUOTE=Lucknow;1322915]Second one was Luna (austrian).[/quote]Luna = Lulu.

Michelle is from Colombia if I am not mixing things up now. Sometimes using hairextensions, and has the most beautiful eyes.

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1323092]Michelle is from Colombia if I am not mixing things up now.[/QUOTE]Your're right, thats her story. She fluently speaks Spanish (IMHO with a Catalan accent) and German. Don't mix her up with Romanian girl Micaela.

Hi All.

I've been away and missed the discussion about the big argument, so some of this may have been covered here already. Sorry for any duplication.

The day afterwards I was with one of my favourite girls. I oughtn't to specify precisely which one perhaps, but she is one of the Bulgarian crew and a long-time reg of mine. She was at the centre of the incident. This is what she told me :-

Two Russians mafiosi types had block booked the VIP quarters for 7 or 8 hours. Two girls were already upstairs and she was invited to join the party, partly because of her Russian language skills. One of the Russkies was with 2 girls. She attended to the second on her own. She was with him for 5 hours and her charges came to 650 Euros. She reminded him at various points of the charges that he was running up and he claimed to be aware. Come closing time, her guy had handed over to management 3000 euros in room and champagne costs and the other Russkie produced a similar sum. Then the trouble started. Nobody wanted to pay the girls for their time, claiming that they had paid enough money and that the sex should not be chargeable on top of the VIP / champers bill. A huge row developed. Both the punters were smashed on champagne and got nasty. A security guy got shot in the melee and they took off without paying the girls. Perhaps the other girls got their money, I'm not sure, but the Bulgarian got stiffed for her 650E and was distraught about it, poor lass.

I am surprised that the management at Artemis allowed her to get fucked like this. They got thousands from the Russians. It really wouldn't have been a terrible thing if they'd compensated her for her loss by perhaps giving her a few hundred to ease the pain (perhaps 50 per cent of her entitlement?). They'd have still made a tidy sum from the Russians and she would at least have had a decent night if not a spectacular one. Instead she was stll in tears about it 2 days later.

Nasty business.

C

[QUOTE=Lucknow;1322915]they cleaned junior.[/QUOTE]?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1323200]?

Norjan[/QUOTE]I think Lucknow mean that the girls clean his dick with a wet wipe whenever they change girl to suck his dick. I find it irritable enough and a mood killer when I have to change the condom when changing between girls or the girls wipe your dick with a wet wipe before they blow you when you just had a shower just before you book them. Yet, having the girl wipe your dick off when they change the girl sucking is catastrophic fastidious. I think my friend go to sleep when this happen.

Overcrowded, bad attitude from the staff and actually not that good girls. This was not the best club to finish off the Germany tour, it was quite a shame we didn't go somewhere else like perhaps Stuttgart or Cologne or perhaps even Ingolstadt and the Hawaii FKK.

Not sure why everybody talks so highly about Artemis. The only positive point is the location which is very close to the center.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1323160]Two Russians mafiosi types had block booked the VIP quarters for 7 or 8 hours. Two girls were already upstairs and she was invited to join the party, partly because of her Russian language skills. One of the Russkies was with 2 girls. She attended to the second on her own. She was with him for 5 hours and her charges came to 650 Euros. She reminded him at various points of the charges that he was running up and he claimed to be aware. Come closing time, her guy had handed over to management 3000 euros in room and champagne costs and the other Russkie produced a similar sum. Then the trouble started. Nobody wanted to pay the girls for their time, claiming that they had paid enough money and that the sex should not be chargeable on top of the VIP / champers bill. A huge row developed. Both the punters were smashed on champagne and got nasty. A security guy got shot in the melee and they took off without paying the girls. Perhaps the other girls got their money, I'm not sure, but the Bulgarian got stiffed for her 650E and was distraught about it, poor lass.

I am surprised that the management at Artemis allowed her to get fucked like this. They got thousands from the Russians. It really wouldn't have been a terrible thing if they'd compensated her for her loss by perhaps giving her a few hundred to ease the pain (perhaps 50 per cent of her entitlement?). They'd have still made a tidy sum from the Russians and she would at least have had a decent night if not a spectacular one. Instead she was still in tears about it 2 days later.[/QUOTE]Hi Charlie, Thanks for the interesting story. To me it doesn't quite all add up, but never mind. However, my view is that Artemis doesn't make money from this kind of fracas as they lose valuable goodwill in the city and actual business in the short term, due to punters being scared off for a bit. It only takes 20 guys not to show up for one week and the club is down 1600 euros. Also they may have to pay for another security guy while one is off sick. This may be why management doesn't compensate the girl.

Visited Artimis Monday. Had a session with Fatima. Very nice. Last year she was my favorite, but I guess taste change. She was good and I enjoyed it, but it wasnt as thrilling as my recollection.

Second session was Cindy from Poland. I was looking for a little blond spinner. But after I got her to the room I realized that she was to skinny. We are talking bony marony. But she had a cute little ass, so I took the ass view route, reverse cow girl and finished doggy. Not at all GFE. She had a program, so I thought, just go with it. She did give a nice BJ, though.

Munich was all business& solo fun, thanks to XXL. Reached Tegel on 28 th Aug and arrived at Apartment hotel near Berlin Hbf via TXL. Agenda was to spend 2, daysatArtemis and I day at one of the PT / gang bang clubs. Reached Artemis by 3 pm (from Hbf platform 15 take S5 to Westkreuz & the way from the station to Artemis is vividly described in the Forum) &after the customary formalities.paying the entry fee, keeping things in the big& small lockers& wash-reached the smoking zone. There were about 20 girlsatthat time. Wanted to have 8 or 9! As the first one & luckily Melody, the German beau with black hair, good english& GFE was free. Spent a lovely 30 mts (repeatable any time, only disappointment being she will do only baby kissing, but then is ready for everything). She said generally she won't approach the customers & it is vice versa. After some refreshments (food was nothing to write home about but plenty) found a very articulate &energetic Pussa, she is turkish German with curly black hair. Spent an hour with her does everything but A+. She is maybe only 7 but then good companion with boundless energy. Around 9 pm saw a cute Moldavian jasmina, only 30 mts this time but then liked the session. Around 11 pm, thought of calling it a day but then was attracted by a reagal looking chek beauty? Natasha whom I cautioned about her being the 4 th girl of the afternoon. She was patient&passionate & could get it out my system after a hectic 1 hr. In was not in a mood to walk back to the station& got a cab instead & hit the sack by 123.

I spent 29 th August at Erlebniswohnung (realty a tongu twisting name) see my report.

30 th August, went back to Artemis a little early this time by 12 noon. The duo of Stella, Michelle was after me right from my entry saying that Melody is their friend. Though I saw them in high demand on the previous occasion, I was not in a mood to start the day with a duo. The disappointment came in the form a German beu? Ginsha whom when I approached said that she is waiting for another customer. I couldn't see anybody coming to her & I saw her sitting with Stella& Michelle. May be it was my bruised ego or utter foolishness, I went to the group & picked the duo of Stella Michelle. They did all the usual things a duo does but was trying to upsell everything. Both preferred doggie, Stella liked slow & soft while Michelle was was for fast &furious.

Despite all the up selling tactics which sort of dampened your mood, managed to cum with Michelle. Romanian Denisa was just the reverse. She is a girl with a boyish charm & was all eager to please. I told about my intention of cim & she tried it for about 20 mts & then when the bell rang at 30 mts I managed to cum in cowgirl. I thought she deserved the exra money &gave her 110 E but to my surprise, she gave me back 50. This possibly is the first time when the girl is paying you back. My final fun for the day was with the all smiling pretty Mendy from Budapest Hungary. I thought of spending an hour with her & discussed A+. Her answer was (she just had one anal previously) that the discomfort was not worth the money. It was a very enjoyable 1 hr & am sure to get back to her when I come back next time

Artemis is very good, but it's not great. I still think that Globe in Zurich and Oase in Frankfurt are better. I went there, and there were probably 40 or more girls. Not that many were "stunners" though. There were a few that were good looking, but nothing making me think,"man, I got to bang that." I did bang this super-tall chick, like 180cm blonde with tatoo and stars. She calls herself jean. She was very skinny with silicone tits. Very beautiful girl. Did try an upsell to me, and got me for 100 euro. She kind of doesn't want to be a hooker, and it's obvious with her attitude. But she is skinny and fine, so I really could not resist. She is just a really hot chick, so I had to go for her.

Overall, there were solid women, but nothing super amazing. Perhaps it was because it was summer time.

Visited Artemis on Thursday evening, first day after the invasion of guys of an electronic pursuasion had ended. Which it obviously did. Ended, that is. Several of the girls commented (not always in a complaining voice, though) that it was very quiet that evening. I had been in Berlin a couple of days, but stayed away from Artemis during IFA, heeding the advice of veteran mongers.

So it was a nice and relaxed evening, however I noticed that several of the feminine mainstays were nowhere to be seen, probably getting some rest.

Did not really get into the normal groove but managed to experience the good and the bad of Artemis. First the good: Cristina from Moldova! Blond hottie, great bod, with nice natural B's. Nice chat in the bar (which played some nice music for an old-timer like me for a change, this was early in the evening of course. The deafening club-music followed later) before heading upstairs. No DFK, but everything else was just magnificent. Cristina used her oral skills all over, almost getting me off in the process. On to some serious action and soon I was a happy man. Great girl, nice to talk to, a definite repeat when I get back.

The bad? After Cristina I waited a long time without anyone really catching my interest. Was on my way out when Irina (ROM) grabbed hold of me. Instead of following my original plan I made the rookie mistake of letting the little head take charge and I did not have the willpower to turn her down. Why, I don't know. I had said no to plenty of other, better looking, girls but this time my defenses were down. So, Irina is also a blond, nice bod, and again natural B's. We did not really chat much before we were zimmer-bound, so it was a gamble. In the room she was quite cold and uninterested, but I could have overcome (literally) that if she performed well. But no. Out of the blue she only wanted to do oral covered, which put me off. I am so used to OWO in Artemis that I never ask girls about this before heading upstairs. Live and learn I guess. The lacklustre performance continued in cowgirl and doggie, when she insisted on keeping her hand on my dick to prevent me going deep. (And no, I am not huge.) I soon lost interest and ended the session after just 20 minutes.

But even if I left Artemis on a sour note it was not a wasted evening. The food was quite ok (at least while the chicken curry lasted) , and the vibe was quite relaxed. Cristina was great, and I hope to session with her again. But maybe, just maybe, I should try out a couple of other FKKs to see how Artemis really ranks. Ahhh. Why is there no serious competition in Berlin.

Hi all!

I had the opportunity to visit Berlin last week with a one free night, so what else to do but go to Artemis as a I have read quite nice reports from it. It was my first visit to a FKK, although I have some experience from working girls, mainly from Red Light District areas. I took a taxi from the hotel and at Artemis around 4pm. The woman in the reception cashed the 80 EUR and explained the rules quite quickly. I put my valuables to the small locker and headed for the big lockers for a change and a shower.

I had decided that I would first take a look around the premises and the girls and wouldn't fall for the first approaches. I took a cola from the lounge bar and started to wonder around the building. It didn't take a long until the first girl approached me. I was very nervous, but I managed to pass her. I think every girl saw that I was a first-timer and nervous as they started their approach by asking is this my first time there. I managed just to get to the downstairs when a more mature, maybe 35y Asian woman (maybe Iris) , approached me and told me that she could give me a oriental massage with no extra cost. I thought that might be a good idea to get me relaxed and I agreed to her suggestion. We went for upstairs and she started to give my back a massage. She was quite good and I got really relaxed, maybe too relaxed because I maybe lost a little bit track of time. After a nice massage, I was worried that my 30 min mark might be soon, so I started to go for the action. She had quite nice plastic tits with very nice and long nipples and she just loved when they were sucked. Also I did some nice DATY and she appeared to enjoy it. I asked can I put my finger inside her and for a little surprise she let me. After a few minutes she gave a rather short BJ with a condom (I didn't ask for BBBJ) , as she wanted me to do some Doggystyle. As this was my first round, I was about to come quite soon. She told me that just come and we could do it again, so I let my gun shoot. I thought that this quite nice compared to the experience from RLDs, so I asked how much would a second round be, maybe another 60EUR? She replied that let's not talk about money, it will ruin the atmosphere. Then my alarm bells started to ring a little bit. I was in belief that I was still in 60 EUR service, so I asked how much it is for now. She started to bumble around that she had the exact same charge as every other girl, don't worry just keep having fun and don't worry about the money. Then she started to explain me that we would have been in the room 1 hour and 5 minutes and there is no fee for 5 minutes, just 30 minutes. I was insisting her to tell me what was the charge until now. Finally she told that 270 EUR and it would be the same for every girl! I was like WHAT THE FUCK, are you kidding me? She tried to calm me down that it would be only 330 EUR if she would do me again. I was getting really nervous and angry for the rip-off attempt. I realized that it was likely that the session was more than 30 min, but no way more than 60 min. I told her that I would pay her 120 EUR max. She told me that no, no I had touched her pussy and fucked her from behind, those are extra costs for me. I informed her that I was leaving now and I would pay her 120 EUR. She muttered something and said okay if I would give her a big tip. Well we went for the small locker and I gave her 120 EUR and an angry look. She didn't say anything and just walked away.

So my visit didn't start so well. I checked the clock and for my estimation, we were at the room maybe 50 min. I learnt that one should have a watch to be on the safe side. I thought should I go talk about this to someone (management) , but decided not to do that to avoid any drama and I took the extra 60 EUR as a learning fee. Iris (or what ever) really noticed that this was my first time there and really tried to exploit it. Maybe a more nervous guy would have paid her the whole fee. I would recommend to avoid her. I decided that this experience wouldn't ruin my visit at Artemis and I reset my mind and went for some relaxing time to the Wellness area. I spent there around 45 min and I passed some approached. Then I went upstairs for a drink and for a girl.

At the lounge bar I noticed a very short girl (maybe 150cm) with quite big fake tits (they were very hard, which I didn't appreciate too much) , she was German and I think the name was Angelica. I approached her and she seemed very nice and lively so I decided to go with her to upstairs. I thought she would give a good GFE, which was indeed the case. Only thing was that she wasn't into any kissing or even me kissing to her neck which I like. Anyway she gave me nice BBBJ and then put the condom on and started first on a Reverse Cowgirl and then normal Cowgirl. The scenery was very nice on both positions. After that she wanted to do it on doggystyle and I was all for it. She looked very sexy when waiting me to penetrate her. There something for me when the girl is such a small or a very tall one. Anyway I fucked her for some time and maybe after 20 min I was ready. She was kind enough to give me a gentle back massage after the fuck until the 30 min was over. This was really nice experience, especially after the first one and I can really recommend her. I even gave her a tip and as the dinner time just started and we both were hungry, we headed to eat together.

After Angelica and dinner, I headed for Spa area for a sauna and relaxing. The Spa area is very relaxing and you can be there quite in peace, not so many approaches. As mentioned here, it would nice to have something to read there, to have something to do and also not get eye-contacted with the girls when relaxing. After maybe an hour I was ready to have some more action and I headed for the lounge area.

At the lounge area I took a cola and sat down to a sofa. There You don't have be very lonely as the girls are quite active. After a few girls passed came one girl which I passed downstairs maybe 10 min ago by a phrase 'maybe later'. She was quite good looking and especially her eyes were really pretty. Her tits were quite small, but not too and they were real. I learned that her name was Fatima and she was originally from Slovakia. I suspected that she would give me a good GFE and we went to upstairs. She really liked to kiss which was for me very nice. Also she gave an excellent BBBJ, very long and with passion. 10 points for that! Then a little Cowgirl action, Mish, doggystyle and I was ready maybe after 20-25min. We had nice talk for the rest of the time. Very nice experience indeed and I can recommend her!

After Fatima I wasn't sure if I would go for fourth one. But hey, I don't know when I have the next opportunity to visit any FKK so I decided to go for it! I went again downstairs to the spa area and staid there maybe for an hour. Then I headed again to the lounge area for a girl. I really wanted to pick a very best looking girl I could find and I was very picky. I could find any spectacular girl in the lounge so I went to the stairway to look for the girls who are coming downstairs after session.

Maybe after 30 min I noticed this brown haired very tall (maybe 182cm, over 190 with heels) and beautiful girl and I decided that she was it. I learnt that she was originally from Romania, but living now in Frankfurt, her name was I think Anka. All the upstairs rooms were taken, so we headed for kino area rooms. In my opinion, the rooms are quite the same. Anyway Anka was a bit passive, but gave anyway quite good GFE and I would grade service to 8½. Procedure was quite similar as before: BBBJ, Cowgirl, Mish and doggy. She nice medium (C?) size tits, looked they might be even real, they were quite soft. She was really pretty and slim and I was very happy with my lat choice.

After Anka I still got something to eat and took last look at the girls, but I had no energy for fifth round and it's was also getting a bit late and I had to wake up quite early the next day. Before I left I decided to share my experience with Iris (?) to the personnel of Artemis. At the reception there was a bit older lady who said she was some kind of manager. I told my experience and I think she believed me and took it seriously, although she was a bit upset that I told it so late.

Some lessons learnt from my first visit and now more ready to adventures to come.

Iris = Irish.

[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/girls/img_0172/[/url]

For some reason she hounds me every time I'm at the A. After your report I'll be definitely avoiding in future.

[QUOTE=Ratak;1325203]At the lounge bar I noticed a very short girl (maybe 150cm) with quite big fake tits (they were very hard, which I didn't appreciate too much) , she was German and I think the name was Angelica.[/QUOTE]Angelica = Angelina, aka. Mini-muschi

[QUOTE=Ratak;1325203]Finally she told that 270 EUR and it would be the same for every girl! I was like WHAT THE FUCK, are you kidding me? She tried to calm me down that it would be only 330 EUR if she would do me again. I was getting really nervous and angry for the rip-off attempt. I realized that it was likely that the session was more than 30 min, but no way more than 60 min. I told her that I would pay her 120 EUR max. She told me that no, no I had touched her pussy and fucked her from behind, those are extra costs for me. I informed her that I was leaving now and I would pay her 120 EUR. She muttered something and said okay if I would give her a big tip. Well we went for the small locker and I gave her 120 EUR and an angry look. She didn't say anything and just walked away.[/QUOTE]What is to say except good that you stood your ground. Sounds like you handled the situation perfectly and managed a smooth exit. It is amazing what some of these girls try to pull.

Nice report.

AM

[QUOTE=Ratak;1325203]I was like WHAT THE FUCK, are you kidding me? She tried to calm me down that it would be only 330 EUR if she would do me again. I was getting really nervous and angry for the rip-off attempt. I realized that it was likely that the session was more than 30 min, but no way more than 60 min. I told her that I would pay her 120 EUR max.[/QUOTE]Seems like you handled yourself well for a first-timer. As I've often observed, Artemis has many positive things about it, but it could be *so* much better if the management wasn't so weak and let the girls get away with so much. The ripoff girls make it hard for the good girls to generate business because of the suspicion that is generated in that kind of atmosphere.

My advice to all first-timers would be: if you chat to ten girls, and nine of them ask you if it is your first time, then go with the one who doesn't. There is a strong possibility that the others have bad intentions.

By the way, one thing Artemis desperately relies on to stay alive is fresh blood. The trouble is that the regular girls tend to grow embittered over time and develop a sort of union mentality. It doesn't have to have to be that way (it could just be the lax management again) but whatever the reason, I notice that is always the fresh faces who are the best and most full of life and basically really seem to like men. If you're only in town for a week you don't notice, but if you're a regular visitor, it really stands out.

Just don't say it's your first time to Artemis. Or at least let them know that you are a regular to other clubs like Palace or Oase.

HB

First timer are always at risk,

No only in the clubs, but you could also be cheated by taxi drivers and other as well if you say it's for first time here.

So either you pretent to be confident and prepared because you have studied these forums (RTFF).

Or you lie and say it's not your first time. But sometimes admitting it's your first time, allowed the girl to be more helpfull and caring,

Unless you fall into the arms of sharks and greedy girls.

Sometimes I play a dumb blond virgin to see how the girls play along.

Having ruled her (Irish) out approx 60 times, I will probably go for a session next week. Strategy: doggystyle in 26 minutes after a quick BJ. Must not forget my sessionwatch from China. Annoying girl. BTW: watch out for a new girl called Arielle, sweet girl, short hair, looks a bit like Rihanna the artist. She has got her own price structure. DFK included in 1 hour sessions, thats ok, but then she charges 50 for BJ in session number two, CIM or not." I charge 50 for the job".

It's official. The new wing is planned to be opened for the anniversary party on September 29 according to the posters hanged in the club and on the website.

It's interesting that it's called the "outdoor area". I guess we'll see in a few weeks if / how the area will be accessible during cold weather.

[QUOTE=Nebula2001;1325388]It's interesting that it's called the "outdoor area". I guess we'll see in a few weeks if / how the area will be accessible during cold weather.[/QUOTE]The question is whether or not (or maybe how) the new rooms will be accessed in cold winter months. Last I saw there was a corridor starting from where the metal stair case is with many new rooms off of it. Obviously these are new fuck rooms but unless the corridor is covered and heated I can not imagine how they would be useable in winter.

Wait and see I guess how it all settles.

AM

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1325303]BTW: watch out for a new girl called Arielle, sweet girl, short hair, looks a bit like Rihanna the artist. She has got her own price structure. DFK included in 1 hour sessions, thats ok, but then she charges 50 for BJ in session number two, CIM or not." I charge 50 for the job".[/QUOTE]Arielle isn't all new. She's working in Artemis a year at least. Pay her for BJ only if its a bareback one in session number two. Don't pay if she gives it with condom.

Hey there!

Anyone spotted Ivy or Kathleen recently? In my last trips I didn't saw them and wanted to know if they are still working at Art or not.

Best!

Kimino

The girls tell me a swimming pool will be added too. BTW: went there over the weekend, and hooked up with a fresh girl named Susan (half German / Lebanese) very attractive face with wavy dark hair. Tall only 19 and full time Music student. Doing this to fund her studies. Excellent session amongst all the silicone sharky girls ever present at Artemis.

I tend to avoid large clubs in big cities like Artemis; Palace and Dolce Vita (dus). I feel for the tourists and fair visitors, where the pro girls can really screw them in many ways. My colleague, who's a first timer at Artermis nearly got conned for an extra €50 for having BBBJ with Some Polish blonde. Lucky I was by the safe lockers to intervene.

[QUOTE=Nebula2001; 1325388]It's official. The new wing is planned to be opened for the anniversary party on September 29 according to the posters hanged in the club and on the website.

It's interesting that it's called the "outdoor area". I guess we'll see in a few weeks if / how the area will be accessible during cold weather.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kimino;1325550]Anyone spotted Ivy or Kathleen recently?[/QUOTE]Haven't seen them for months, half a year at least.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1325550]Hey there!

Anyone spotted Ivy or Kathleen recently? In my last trips I didn't saw them and wanted to know if they are still working at Art or not.

Best!

Kimino[/QUOTE]Ciao!

Ivy is still going strong. She has gone through the sexual methamorphosis and has become a superb provider. Outstanding session 6 days ago.

Kathleen doesn't work in this job anymore.

[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1325735]Kathleen doesn't work in this job anymore.[/QUOTE]Happy to hear! Hope she managed to start up her project.

Nice person.

Thanks for the news Suppenhuhn.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby; 1325608]Ciao!

Ivy is still going strong. She has gone through the sexual methamorphosis and has become a superb provider. Outstanding session 6 days ago.[/QUOTE]Hey Zimmerbaby!

I perfectly understand what you are saying, and that's good news. To me Ivy is probably one of the sexiest girls I met at Art. So sexy (and sweet) that the fact that she never was a stellar provider didn't matter too much for me. But if she also "matured" on that aspect she could be absolutely great. Hope I see her in early oct.

Ciao, Kimino.

[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1325735]Kathleen doesn't work in this job anymore.[/QUOTE]That's good news. She definitely wasn't suited to it and looked unhappy most of the time.

[QUOTE=Simex; 1325586]The girls tell me a swimming pool will be added too. BTW: went there over the weekend, and hooked up with a fresh girl named Susan (half German / Lebanese) very attractive face with wavy dark hair. Tall only 19 and full time Music student. Doing this to fund her studies. Excellent session amongst all the silicone sharky girls ever present at Artemis.

I tend to avoid large clubs in big cities like Artemis; Palace and Dolce Vita (dus). I feel for the tourists and fair visitors, where the pro girls can really screw them in many ways. My colleague, who's a first timer at Artermis nearly got conned for an extra €50 for having BBBJ with Some Polish blonde. Lucky I was by the safe lockers to intervene.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you found a great girl. The problem with avoiding the large clubs is that one misses out on some of the talent pool, such as the enthusiastic part-timer you found. A lot of the good girls in the big city clubs also start out in smaller and more rural clubs (e. G. Nina at Artemis who was at World and Finca, I believe) then graduating onto the bigger places for healthier pickings. The most beautiful girls can be found at Palace, but one has to pay them above the going rate to get good service (although still much cheaper than if they were escorting). Girls have attempted to overcharge me at Artemis but so far I have managed to avoid any rip-offs.

People who read this board should be well-protected against any disasters.

I strongly recommend Viola. 25 years, slender Russian girl. Astonishing session, lovely girl, BJ from paradise.

All this talking regarding Artemis going downhill. Fucking BS! :)

Shame on you guys, it is only inside your heads. You just haven't met the hidden pearls, you picked the wrong stocks. RLDs, streetgirls, Thailand and Singapore can't measure with the pleasures of Artemis. Approx 4 of my earlier reports are to be found in RoD. Consider them as the Marshall help part II. They are to be found amongsts my first 10 reports. It contains descriptions of 50-60 girls, and 90% are still at the club.

My pleasure!

ZB

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby; 1325772]I strongly recommend Viola. 25 years, slender Russian girl. Astonishing session, lovely girl, BJ from paradise.

All this talking regarding Artemis going downhill. Fucking BS! .

Shame on you guys, it is only inside your heads. You just haven't met the hidden pearls, you picked the wrong stocks. RLDs, streetgirls, Thailand and Singapore can't measure with the pleasures of Artemis. Approx 4 of my earlier reports are to be found in RoD. Consider them as the Marshall help part II. They are to be found amongsts my first 10 reports. It contains descriptions of 50-60 girls, and 90% are still at the club.

My pleasure!

ZB[/QUOTE]Ahahaha great ZB!

Thanks for the recommend. Last Russian girl I tryed in Art was Natasha, very very skilled. What does she look like?

Kimino

You know we will always get guys showing up (old school regulars and newbies) who declare that Artemis ain't what it used to be. I guess if that is their experience, that is their experience. Such a club has its' ups and downs as do the guys who go there. I know that when I go these days there are some nights that seem better than others. I also know that for me it only takes one nice session and suddenly I feel better about the place.

In the end Artemis is a big club. There are some very sharky ladies prowling the bar and kinos. I think most guys sort of expect to show up and just breeze into a great session. The reality is that the FKK style club requires a bit of "work" on the part of the customer. You have to be savvy and even maybe a little suave to get full bang for your buck. It is also sometimes just a matter of luck.

I always try to remember that the reason I liked Artemis in the beginning was that it was set up a little like a pick up bar (albiet a well stocked pick up bar) and I had to go in there and find the girl with whom I wanted to session. The fact that there are other girls I don't want to session with, and who will try to persuade me otherwise, was all part of the fun. I would say that is a guy does not enjoy this sort of interaction and sifting through the girls to find the gem, then probably FKK clubs are not for them.

AM

Viola: 170 cm, slim, dark shoulderlong hair, pale skin, she approaches carefully, gives a nice conversation without any pressure. Elegant approach, not this useless fucking "baby, baby" BS. Perfectly shaped B/C cups. Nicely shaved, with a dark strip remaining for the sake of beauty and lust. Georgeous pink pussy reminding me of italian strawberry icecream.

I talked to Natascha during my last visit, she really turned me on in the bar, but my genitals said go, brain said no. I understand I made a huge mistake. Hopefully she will be there on Thursday.

BTW: Nina, what a lovely personality. Not only taking good care of clients, but also paying attention to the girls that are outside the mainstream of popularity and centre of attention. Amazing girl. Love her.

In fairness it's not a terrible FKK. But it's not a great FKK either. If it were a great FKK it wouldn't need its own PR department posting on this thread. People would just naturally give it good reports.

[QUOTE=The Limey;1326017]In fairness it's not a terrible FKK. But it's not a great FKK either. If it were a great FKK it wouldn't need its own PR department posting on this thread. People would just naturally give it good reports.[/QUOTE]Please. All questions regarding public relations will be responded by my boss Prof. Dr. Zimmerschatz. He's currently at vacation, so his assistant Dr Schwanz Zimmermann will be delighted to give you good service.

A suspect has been picked up in connection with the shooting from a dew weeks back.

[url]http://www.bz-berlin.de/bezirk/wilmersdorf/artemis-schiesserei-verdaechtiger-verhaftet-article1540826.html[/url]

According to the article a Russian citizen.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1326685]A suspect has been picked up in connection with the shooting from a dew weeks back.

[url]http://www.bz-berlin.de/bezirk/wilmersdorf/artemis-schiesserei-verdaechtiger-verhaftet-article1540826.html[/url]

According to the article a Russian citizen.

AM[/QUOTE]Wow not funny, luckily he didn't shot any guests, I hope they cut his dick off.

What would say when you get home "honey I accidentally got shot at nudeclub, I swear I didn't fuck anyone!"

NC

Indefatigable Zimmerbaby was in town taking a break from his usual group gropings, and he held court with Das Dude Magee and me. Later, after a 2 seconds discussion of the pros and cons which emphasized the former, he dragged me, kicking and screaming, to the Love Bahnhoff last night. Pretty good buzz on and selection of newbies, including Charlene, a new, tall, brunette German girl from Köln, of epic mams but superb proportions whom I recommend. All woman, super responsive and friendly to be with. A fair number of the core team was absent, healing up I guess from last week's IFA Messe, but overall a good range of choices and not too crowded with men on the monger. Thursday night is actually a good choice in this regard. I wished I could have stayed a lot later than I did (work) and it was a good night, better than it has been in quite a while.

I managed to finally corner top management and after they asked me WTF questions about their PR dept as commented earlier here, we went on a tour of the new wing. Things are moving along though IMHO it is going to be a stretch to be fully ready for the party on the 29th, especially to get the pool and jacuzzi finished, filled, and tested to be useable in 2 weeks. Hence workers were there beavering away even as I left around midnight.

So here is what your intrepid reporter found during his refractory period tour. It is a pretty significant expansion when you walk through it, and they are spending a few euros on it to be sure. The Fez or Moorish feel and red colouring is a little odd juxtaposed against the Bauhaus blockish nature of the main building, but you can see how they are trying to make a more interesting, multilevel space. A few DB trains stopped on the bridge overlooking all this, and in summer, as the whole train population shifts rapidly to the one side to gape at the Artemis side to view the lovelies frollicking about, there could be some spectacular wrecks.

The plan is indeed to keep the new wing open year round. The walkways and stairs etc will be accessible as long as weather permits, meaning when there is serious snow and ice, they won't be. But the jacuzzi is covered, and both the new sauna and outdoor swimming pool will remain humming along throughout the winter which could be quite nice. True sauna users know having a bit of snow around, and then being able to hop in a nice hot pool is the one true path. The pool and apparently also the top of the new terrace outside the current dining area will have built in, electrically operated, retractable covers to protect against really bad weather. The outdoor terrace and pool area are big enough to be nice lounging spots in nicer weather, and a separate kitchen and grill area is being built to the right of the pool. The narrow open pathway through the new rooms is bricked in, and now also extends all the way around the side and back to the old grill area a good 50+meters. I can imagine these will be a bit problematical when icy and all this will introduce the obvious new set of variables that will need watching, or they will just have to put up signs saying "mind the bodies" so you don't trip over the fallen. Overall, RB was impressed (and we know how rare that is) , and even more so by the thought that that the increase in facility size should allow even more new girls to join the staff. Soon there will be no more than 7 girls between the ages of 20-25 left residing in Romania.

I'm sure he must have had a hard time convincing you. LOL.

Nice report. Very curious to see it when it's finished, still a bit worried that if the club becomes too big it might definitely turn in a sex supermarket, more than it is now. Only time will tell.

Kimino. Tourist and wannabe unregular.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1326875]Hence workers were there beavering away even as I left around midnight.[/QUOTE]Workers "beavering" away at an FKK past midnight. No surprise there and no wonder the wing won't be finished. It won't be finished until next spring unless we can convince the workers to stop all that beavering. Perhaps they have to change contractors in the end-Liberace Contsruction Inc. Might be available?

AM

[quote=angus magee;1326918]. it won't be finished until next spring unless we can convince the workers to stop all that beavering. perhaps they have to change contractors in the end-liberace contsruction inc. might be available? am[/quote]you know, i wish you all would take this a little more seriously and show sum repek.

and angus, your proposed solution will only make things worse, as in case you have not noticed (and i know for a fact you have) , there are heaps of naked men prancing around artemis also. this will prove hopelessly distracting to liberace construction crews.

what might work is if the management posts bail on the recently or soon-to-be arrested bulgaro-russo hit squad, and all charges are dropped, on the condition that the shooters then enforce a tight work schedule for free. as they know the layout of the place, getting up to speed will be quick. (then once the wing is open, we do that cement shoes thing in the pool with those guyz in that place).

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1326918]Workers "beavering" away at an FKK past midnight. No surprise there and no wonder the wing won't be finished. It won't be finished until next spring unless we can convince the workers to stop all that beavering. Perhaps they have to change contractors in the end-Liberace Contsruction Inc. Might be available?

AM[/QUOTE]AM;"Workers "beavering" away." Angus you may have to translate all the nuances of this Canadianism for our ISG brothers. And once again, you have outed yourself, Eh. LOL

It must be a great club, as Thursday / Fri / Saturday was very crowded.
Girls love it here because men of all wallet sizes come to Artemis. I noticed Mariana of Globe FKK on Thursday night,
She comes frequently as the money just as good compared to Globe.

For Berlin, it's a great club for the season mongers. There's no harm in opening another club
Like Artemis, as they say competition is "healthy" for all.

[QUOTE=The Limey;1326017]In fairness it's not a terrible FKK. But it's not a great FKK either. If it were a great FKK it wouldn't need its own PR department posting on this thread. People would just naturally give it good reports.[/QUOTE]

Jack Nicholson, One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest:

"What are you doing' here? You oughta be out in a convertible bird-doggin' chicks and bangin' beaver."

Whether the workers are bangin' beaver or dreaming of it. I will do a fly by in late Sept to inspect the work and workings.

[QUOTE=Excess;1326970]AM;"Workers "beavering" away." Angus you may have to translate all the nuances of this Canadianism for our ISG brothers. And once again, you have outed yourself, Eh. LOL[/QUOTE]

[quote=bearsk; 1327177]"what are you doing' here? you oughta be out in a convertible bird-doggin' chicks and bangin' beaver." i will do a fly by in late sept to inspect the work and workings.[/quote]just to clarify all this, in north american slang,"beavering away" means working hard, as beavers are renowned for their speed and industriousness in dam building on fast flowing rivers.

"beaver" is also a slang word for vagina, presumably because of the hairy bits (as opposed to their powerful long teeth and claws). this could well have its origins in canada where life was so cold and lonely, and the land so sparsely populated, male explorers probably were not shy about putting beavers to other uses. in the us with a slightly more temperate climate, sheep were more in demand. hence the expression "a sheepish grin". anyway, as both countries became more settled with women and hunting and farming increased, the practice slowly died out.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1327206]This could well have its origins in Canada where life was so cold and lonely, and the land so sparsely populated, male explorers probably were not shy about putting beavers to other uses. In the US with a slightly more temperate climate, sheep were more in demand. Hence the expression "a sheepish grin". Anyway, as both countries became more settled with women and hunting and farming increased, the practice slowly died out.[/QUOTE]You guys in NAM are crazy, fucking beavers and sheep, sounds disgusting, LOL.

In Westerns days you have *****houses, when did prostitution became illegal?

[quote=rocketboy0; 1327206]just to clarify all this, in north american slang,"beavering away" means working hard, as beavers are renowned for their speed and industriousness in dam building on fast flowing rivers.

"beaver" is also a slang word for vagina, presumably because of the hairy bits (as opposed to their powerful long teeth and claws). this could well have its origins in canada where life was so cold and lonely, and the land so sparsely populated, male explorers probably were not shy about putting beavers to other uses. in the us with a slightly more temperate climate, sheep were more in demand. hence the expression "a sheepish grin". anyway, as both countries became more settled with women and hunting and farming increased, the practice slowly died out.[/quote]indeed, as am will confirm the mighty beaver is a proud symbol of canada. every (well the heterosexual part) young canadian male looks forward eagerly to taking his first pelt, and then the hunt continues often for a lifetime and no matter how far they stray from the land of the beaver.

e.

[quote=rocketboy0;1327206]just to clarify all this, in north american slang,"beavering away" means working hard, as beavers are renowned for their speed and industriousness in dam building on fast flowing rivers. "beaver" is also a slang word for vagina, presumably because of the hairy bits (as opposed to their powerful long teeth and claws). this could well have its origins in canada where life was so cold and lonely, and the land so sparsely populated, male explorers probably were not shy about putting beavers to other uses. in the us with a slightly more temperate climate, sheep were more in demand. hence the expression "a sheepish grin". anyway, as both countries became more settled with women and hunting and farming increased, the practice slowly died out.[/quote]jerry mathers. as the beaver!

[QUOTE=The Cane;1327296]Jerry Mathers. As the Beaver![/QUOTE]Every time you enter Artemis or a bordello, you are paying to Leave It To Beaver

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1327240]You guys in NAM are crazy, fucking beavers and sheep, sounds disgusting, LOL.

In Westerns days you have *houses, when did prostitution became illegal?[/QUOTE]Hi Hi Nille. Showing pets love is nice. North Am is a friendly place.

As for ho's, it is not completely illegal. Nevada is full of its legendary legal "ranches" like the Mustang and Kit Kat, etc. And LA, NYC, Boston, San Fran all have a fairly tolerant scene. Like dope in the Netherlands, illegal but widely practiced.

Canada is a different matter as Angus can explain-getting more like Sweden. (Though even there, things are looser than one is led to believe). But we should take this to the Lounge vs Artemis thread.

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1326773]"honey I accidentally got shot at nudeclub, I swear I didn't fuck anyone!"[/QUOTE]Quality! :)

Hi. I was just wondering, whats the most common nationality in Artemis (girls)? A lot of Romanian? Any colombian girls? I would really love that. As I really love the company of a mature and experienced women I would also like to add one question, is it possible to find some providers over 30 years old? My favourite age for mature women is 34-38 ish. Coming to Artemis this fall, I am already getting very excited. Its going to be nice to try something new and different, as I have only visited the Palace when it comes to other FKKS.

Norwegian 90

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1327493]As for ho's, it is not completely illegal. Nevada is full of its legendary legal "ranches" like the Mustang and Kit Kat, etc. And LA, NYC, Boston, San Fran all have a fairly tolerant scene. Like dope in the Netherlands, illegal but widely practiced.[/QUOTE]I know it's legal in Nevada, but prices are high and the service sucks. Just wonder why it became illegal. Was it something the people voted for, I guess not!

Oh well here we are just spoiled with German scene.

[QUOTE=Norwegian90; 1328128]Hi. I was just wondering, whats the most common nationality in Artemis (girls)? A lot of Romanian? Any colombian girls? I would really love that. As I really love the company of a mature and experienced women I would also like to add one question, is it possible to find some providers over 30 years old? My favourite age for mature women is 34-38 ish. Coming to Artemis this fall, I am already getting very excited. Its going to be nice to try something new and different, as I have only visited the Palace when it comes to other FKKS.

Norwegian 90[/QUOTE]These stats go up and down depending on the night, but generally I would say Romanian and Bulgarian are the most common nationalities. Then German or maybe Polish. Then a few Czech girls (always a good bet IMO). Russians are fairly rare though there are usually 2-3 there on any given night. There are then a mix of Hungarian, Turkish (usually German born and raised) , Ukrainian and a couple other nationalities. Columbians, I have met one or two but if you say South American there are usually a handful that work there so chances are there will be a couple there.

Keep in mind that sometimes a girl will claim to be "from Brazil" if one of her parents came from there. She herself may have more or less grown up in Germany and so is, for all intents and purposes, German. She may or may not share her home grown sister's sexual temperament. This means you still have to do your due diligence and chat a bit, getting a feel for her before committing to a session.

As for the age preference-I would say that there are a reasonable number of 30+ year old ladies working of you look. That said most will not admit to it, rather shave off a few years should you ask or act offended. Artemis is not exactly MILF central but they do exist there and can (so I am told) be excellent in the room.

AM

[QUOTE=Norwegian90; 1328128]Hi. I was just wondering, whats the most common nationality in Artemis (girls)? A lot of Romanian? Any colombian girls? I would really love that.

Norwegian 90[/QUOTE]I believe Artemis is the most diverted FKK club in term of girls and guests nationality.

RO girls are the majority in most clubs (also at Artemis) , they keep the wheel spinning at the German P4P scene. Hurrah for that.

You will probably experience that some RO girls will tell you they are from Spain and Italy. But it's really important where the girls are from,

If she is nice and a good provider. Of cause we all want to taste exotic fruits if we have the chance.

Cheers,

Nille

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1328148]These stats go up and down depending on the night, but generally I would say Romanian and Bulgarian are the most common nationalities. Then German or maybe Polish. Then a few Czech girls (always a good bet IMO). Russians are fairly rare though there are usually 2-3 there on any given night. There are then a mix of Hungarian, Turkish (usually German born and raised) , Ukrainian and a couple other nationalities. Columbians, I have met one or two but if you say South American there are usually a handful that work there so chances are there will be a couple there.

Keep in mind that sometimes a girl will claim to be "from Brazil" if one of her parents came from there. She herself may have more or less grown up in Germany and so is, for all intents and purposes, German. She may or may not share her home grown sister's sexual temperament. This means you still have to do your due diligence and chat a bit, getting a feel for her before committing to a session.

As for the age preference-I would say that there are a reasonable number of 30+ year old ladies working of you look. That said most will not admit to it, rather shave off a few years should you ask or act offended. Artemis is not exactly MILF central but they do exist there and can (so I am told) be excellent in the room.

AM[/QUOTE]Thank you, to both of you. I just asked out of curiosity. I have been to the Palace several times and I know that Romanian girls often claim to be from Spain / Italy. But I know when they are kiddin me hehe. As Nille Copenhagen mentioned in his post, I like to taste some exotic fruits" from time to time. On the other side I must admit that I don't care THAT much about the nationalities, just a little. If Iam in latina mood or eastern european mood I do care, but for me the most important thing is to get a girl that can provide a girlfriend experience. An experience that good, that it feels like I haven't payed her at all. That natural. And beleive me, I have found such a girl several times. (In the Palace, and I have never, NEVER payed extra for such thing). It comes natural. You just have to do some good research / chatting before going to a zimmer. You have to do a lot of talking. And you will most probably be rewarded. Of course you have to be polite and respectful, and not smell bad. I DO NEVER PAY EXTRA FOR KISSING for example.

Angus Magee, I must admit that I really like milfs with fake tits. As I am quite young, I really enjoy to spend time with experienced mature women. And I have been with some women in that age, both freebies and working girls, and they really know how to fuck. Just visited a 34 year old escort girl from Spain. She was so awesome! As you said, she wouldn't say that she was 34, she said 28 at first. But I knew that she was older, but that turned me on even more.

Sooo, I would really apreciate to get some more information on the MILF topic hehe. Could anyone of you experienced Artemis visitors tell me if you know some exact names. Any colombian girls that you could recommend, and / or any milfish girl? I remember last time I posted, I wanted to get some information regarding black girls. I got some really nice tips on what to expect, I even got some names. It is really nice to have a forum like this.

Thank you guys!

Norwegian90

[QUOTE=Norwegian90; 1328212]As Nille Copenhagen mentioned in his post, I like to taste some exotic fruits" from time to time.

(In the Palace, and I have never, NEVER payed extra for such thing). It comes natural. You just have to do some good research / chatting before going to a zimmer. You have to do a lot of talking. And you will most probably be rewarded. Of course you have to be polite and respectful, and not smell bad. I DO NEVER PAY EXTRA FOR KISSING for example. Norwegian90[/QUOTE]This comment should be in the Palace thread. But here it goes anyway.

Many ISG-members have cursed the girls at Palace and sworn never return to Palace due to the bad service.

We share the same view on the girls services at Palace,

I also had good times at Palace and never paid extra for kisses, DATY, GFE.

It's wise to choose carefully or maybe we were just lucky that the girls like guys from the Nordic countries. LOL.

Cheers,

NC

Sorry Angus.

The nationality with the most girls is really German now. I think about 25 % of the women. Than Romanian.

[QUOTE=Norwegian90;1328212]I must admit that I really like milfs with fake tits. As I am quite young, I really enjoy to spend time with experienced mature women. And I have been with some women in that age, both freebies and working girls, and they really know how to fuck. Any colombian girls that you could recommend, and / or any milfish girl?Norwegian90[/QUOTE]Norske90. This concept of yours,"Milfish Girl", is today's winner in the Monger Subtle Irony Dept. The 'tute equivalent of Muddy Waters' Mannish Boy.

I think you overrate the importance of knowing names, as all that matters is whomever is there when you are, who moves your peter meter into the red zone. But if you must: Ella, blond Russiya Milfsky; Jenna blondinen die Uber Deutsche Milfen; Bella, Blond-Rosa Milfos Extremos Cubano; Irene blond Hungarian; one could argue Nicolette the black haired Bulgarian beauty is just about an MILF; there is a Colombian bolt-on wonder whose name I don't know; Pamela Blond Polska Poon; Charlene Braun Amazonen von Köln. There are some udders whose names I don't know. All these mamas are graduates of Silicon Valley engineering schools and should nurse your young needs just fine. There is another Hungarian, Ruby, very sexy, whom sadly I would avoid.

And in passing- Supenhuhn is in error, and Angus is as always right on the nationality head count, from one who has been there 2x in the past 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1328335]And in passing- Supenhuhn is in error, and Angus is as always right on the nationality head count, from one who has been there 2x in the past 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]I am so sorry, but IMHO Mr. Suppenhuhn isn't in error. Nowadays there are 15 or 20 german women working in Artemis at least. More, if you count german raised and born girls with father and / or mother from Turkey as german. But there is a lot of girls from Romania / Moldavia, too. Note: there are many fewer bulgarian girls than a year or so ago. From one who has been there 2x in the past 2 weeks too.

No rocketboy you are not right.

I know artemis girls quite well and visit the club three times a month the last 4 years. You can believe that the main nationality of the girls is german this time. 4 years ago there were not so many german girls.

Please have a look on "verkehrsberichte"!

[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn; 1328354]No rocketboy you are not right. You can believe that the main nationality of the girls is german this time. 4 years ago there were not so many german girls.

Please have a look on "verkehrsberichte"![/QUOTE]Well, as Phariser reports, out of say 60+ or so working on a full team night. 20 ish might (might) be German. Thus the majority are not, and are mostly east european. The proportions also vary from night to night. What other websites may or may not report vs my own eyes over long periods of time does not count as evidence. Angus has it right.

But really-does it matter at all? In my universe, origin does not; rather, is a particular girl fun to be with, are they attractive, and do the fireworks go off? Such girls can come from anywhere between Andora to Zimbabwe.

So let us just declare peace on this pretty irrelevant subject, and let us move on to more helpful tips about whom is worth meeting and avoiding to guide the curious monger.

Gentlemen, I certainly did not mean for my numbers to be in any way definitive, merely my own reconnoitring as skewed as it is by my own preferences. So why all the cock fighting? Oh-I think I answered my own question.

In any case, if it is important I will now give the absolute, not to be argued with, right answer to the current debate.

There are always exactly a bunch of Romanians, a good number of Bulgarians and a whack of German girls. Along side this are a handful of Polish hunies, a smattering of Czech / Slovak / Hungarian lovelies. A soupçon of Russian / Ukrainian adds the needed medley of Slavic earthiness. To all of this is stirred in a spice bundle of S. American / Spanish heat (keep in mind some is home grown and so taste must be altered accordingly) and then a pinch of, Thai, Malay, Tunisian and what ever else you might find lying around.

This mixture is sautéed, stirred and then thickened with copious quantitates of jizzum. Sorry for that last image it may well ruin your night.

Seriously-is there anything we won't argue about?

AM

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1328374]So let us just declare peace on this pretty irrelevant subject, and let us move on to more helpful tips about whom is worth meeting and avoiding to guide the curious monger.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Peace all over FKK!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1328392]Seriously-is there anything we won't argue about?[/QUOTE]OMG, no! Peace, please!

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1328374]Well, as Phariser reports, out of say 60+ or so working on a full team night. 20 ish might (might) be German. Thus the majority are not, and are mostly east european.[/QUOTE]As long as there's none from Borg, I'll be fine! LOL.

Kimino the tourist, looking forward to be "ass"imilated.

What is wrong with 7 of 9?

She will fit nicely into the artemis team.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1328450]As long as there's none from Borg, I'll be fine! LOL.

Kimino the tourist, looking forward to be "ass"imilated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Didi Vise; 1328469]What is wrong with 7 of 9?

She will fit nicely into the artemis team.[/QUOTE]For those wondering (the not Trekies) this is 7 of 9. Yeah she'd fit right in.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1328374]So let us just declare peace on this pretty irrelevant subject, and let us move on to more helpful tips about whom is worth meeting and avoiding to guide the curious monger.[/QUOTE]Yes peace, you are right. It's not an important thing we discuss about.

[quote=angus magee;1328475]for those wondering (the not trekies) this is 7 of 9. yeah she'd fit right in.[/quote]oh man, now you are talking. rb has had a photon tor**** ready for her for light years. she was born in munich and her father was a zimmerman (could be a bobby d connection there?) any way all here [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jeri_ryan[/url]

and then we have these - a dripping ex borg shot & studying hard in the library (or at least i was). click to enlarge - resistance is futile.

now some of you might ask, what on earth (ha) does this have to do with the artemis thread? the obvious answer is, not a hell of a lot.

Just a short report from last night. RB and I arrived to a queue at around 19:00 and quickly found out that there was a small but effective Messe in town, the Bahn engineers we were told. There certainly were enough of them and they were a bit of a strange group making my initial impression of the evening rather unfavourable.

Never the less the girls were out in force. There were a lot of new faces and none of the ones that I wanted to recognise were there, that is, none of my regulars. What to do except wait and see what would happen. RB found his target early and left me for a half hour of his fun. Myself I took a sauna and wandered but with out seeing any one who made me really want to meet them. Not that there weren't any beauties. There were certainly a few who looked fine. Maybe I just was not in the mood?

By around 22:30 I had more or less resigned myself to an un-gepopt evening, sitting in the main bar with RB, when Fatima appeared before me. With little hesitation I asked her to sit then off to join the upstairs wait for a room. As it turned out it was the perfect out come and I had with Fatima (who I had not seen or been with for several months) and session that was like the first. What a girl she is.

As I paid her and kissed her good bye I noticed that the front desk was hopping and lined up to the door. Time to go and after a late snack RB and I hit the road.

As a service to the forum, before we did anything this evening RB and I did a short reconnoitre of the nearly finished addition. With RB providing cover I managed to snap a few pictures of the construction. You can see them on my blog with a short explanation.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=788[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1329690]By around 22:30 I had more or less resigned myself to an un-gepopt evening, sitting in the main bar with RB, when Fatima appeared before me. With little hesitation I asked her to sit then off to join the upstairs wait for a room. As it turned out it was the perfect out come and I had with Fatima (who I had not seen or been with for several months) and session that was like the first. What a girl she is.

As I paid her and kissed her good bye I noticed that the front desk was hopping and lined up to the door. Time to go and after a late snack RB and I hit the road.

With RB providing cover I managed to snap a few pictures of the construction. You can see them on my blog with a short explanation.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks AM for the update and the pictures.

Arrhh. Among all the new talents you didn't choose any, instead you faithfully wait for your girl. That's so sweet, AM!

Did you really plan to leave unpopped if your girl didn't showed up.

Nille

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1329716]Thanks AM for the update and the pictures.

Arrhh. Among all the new talents you didn't choose any, instead you faithfully wait for your girl. That's so sweet, AM!

Did you really plan to leave unpopped if your girl didn't showed up.

Nille[/QUOTE]We got there at 19:00 and I did not run into her until probably 22:30-45. Truth is I did not really plan to find her but she is one of my. , probably my most actually, regular girls there. I guess my criteria has changed really as I have been to Artemis enough times and fucked enough hot girls that it takes a bit to impress me. These days just the thought of heading off to the room with some curvy air head who is just thinking of the €60 (or more) I might spend leaves me cold. With Fatima I know that she at least also enjoys my company as I do hers. Plus we always have a laugh no matter how good the sex is. Yeah for me she really is sort of a GFE. And it is sort of sweet in such a place as Artemis to find a girl that you genuinely like.

I do think if she hadn't of shown up when she did that the night would have been un-gepopt.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1329721]Yeah for me she really is sort of a GFE. And it is sort of sweet in such a place as Artemis to find a girl that you genuinely like.

I do think if she hadn't of shown up when she did that the night would have been un-gepopt.

AM[/QUOTE]Hi AM,

I know she is your regular girl and she makes you feel good and is worth waiting for, but since you have paid the entrance fee and there are plenty of fish in the sea. There is no point in thinking of leaving un-gepopt (I'll be very unhappy and disappointed if I leave a FKK-club un-gepopt, I'm there to get my dick wet.) , but luckily your girl shown up and the story got a happy ending.

BTW, the pool looks quite small on the pictures, maybe because you took the pictures from the stairways / roof of Artemis a bit far away?

The construction work look quite unfinished for the anniversary in 1 week.

NC

i may have made my last vist to artimis on friday. it was over run with polar bears. *it is a guess but my guess is 70 men to 30 women. *worst i have seen at any fkk anywhere. *girls were impatient (buddy had same experience). *i had planned to go back the next night, but will not.

several different girls we both asked said no kissing. *two that i asked were no to any "extras."

i was hoping to see fatima, a favorite, but she was not there. *club just seemed oddly different from what i am used to.

i guess compared to most life experiences, it was good, but it was a big disappointment from our expectations.

first girl jane from romania. *attractive bolondish, mid back hair. nice fake c-cups. nice ass. early twenties. *no kissing. *service better than second girl but not good enough. poor english.

second girl irabella / erabella 22 romania. *frosted mid-back length blondish hair. *nice natural see-cups and nice ass. stay-up black hose and a piece of cloth around waist that i discovered was hiding a tattoo of grapes on her lower left stomach. *claimed to be there only on month but wouldn't share any back story. *i don't think that she spoke much english beyond "hello." very poor service.

[quote=katinka;1329909]second girl irabella / erabella 22 romania. *frosted mid-back length blondish hair. *nice natural see-cups and nice ass. stay-up black hose and a piece of cloth around waist that i discovered was hiding a tattoo of grapes on her lower left stomach. *claimed to be there only on month but wouldn't share any back story. *i don't think that she spoke much english beyond "hello." very poor service.[/quote]not sure if it the same isabella but if it is she has been there for several years and is just about the worst artemis has to offer in my opinion. she is the type of romanian that gives romanian girls a bad name. too bad you had to run into her.

as you see in my report i more and more rely on tried and tested girls at artemis (fatima ;) for one).

am

Angus and RB have become uber-selective. Their tastes rarely overlap.

Its rumored Angus proposed to Fatima. She told to ask again when the renovations are finished.

Its also rumored that Fatima's derriere is to be named among the 100 Slovakian National Treasures of Eternity.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1329721]I guess my criteria has changed really as I have been to Artemis enough times and fucked enough hot girls that it takes a bit to impress me. These days just the thought of heading off to the room with some curvy air head who is just thinking of the €60 (or more) I might spend leaves me cold. With Fatima I know that she at least also enjoys my company as I do hers. Plus we always have a laugh no matter how good the sex is. Yeah for me she really is sort of a GFE. And it is sort of sweet in such a place as Artemis to find a girl that you genuinely like.

I do think if she hadn't of shown up when she did that the night would have been un-gepopt.

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk;1330047]Angus and RB have become uber-selective. Their tastes rarely overlap.[/QUOTE]B-this is deliberate. Once, when our tastes did overlap or if you prefer, our laps were over tasted, I was staring into the eyes of (she who shall remain nameless) , and I screamed out "yes Angus, yes". :eek:

Anyway, I know for sure that Fatima and he have a special connection (that she simply does not feel for the other 20,000 guys). I am especially grateful to her, because it puts him in an uncharacteristically good mood that can last up to 24 hours, and sometimes 25.

You will give us a head's up won't you, in advance this time, should you plan to enter Berlin airspace.

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1330047]Its rumored Angus proposed to Fatima.

Its also rumored that Fatima's derriere is to be named among the 100 Slovakian National Treasures of Eternity.[/QUOTE]Now I understand better "The Loving Monger" and "I Can't Help Falling In Love".

AM, I wish you the best of luck.

NC

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1329981]Not sure if it the same Isabella but if it is she has been there for several years and is just about the worst Artemis has to offer in my opinion. She is the type of Romanian that gives Romanian girls a bad name. Too bad you had to run into her.

As you see in my report I more and more rely on tried and tested girls at Artemis (Fatima. For one).

AM[/QUOTE]In reading your description of Thursday night it gave me a bit of comfort that maybe Friday wasn't just "me." Also, I bet it was Isabella. That was the name that was in my mind, but post session, she kept rolling an "R" into it.

[QUOTE=Katinka;1329909]I may have made my last vist to Artimis on Friday.[/quote]Friday 21th Sep?

[quote=Katinka;1329909]was hoping to see Fatima, a favorite, but she was not there.[/quote]She was there, til midnight at least.

[quote=Katinka;1329909]First girl Jane from Romania.[/quote]Jane is German, good english skills. Another name?

[quote=Katinka;1329909]Second girl Irabella / Erabella 22 Romania.[/QUOTE]AM told everything about her. Isabella. I learned the hard way.

I was wondering if any regulars to Berlin and Artemis are familiar with the size and impact of the upcoming Berlin Messe event " EAS- Euro Attractions Show", ending on my first planned day at Artemis on Thurday. 11. 10. 12. I was planning to visit Artemis late afternoon through evening, but, would rather avoid terribly busy times. If anyone would be so kind to comment, I would appreaciate it.

I assume the Messe event that follows, through the weekend, "Al Bundy Schuhboerse" is no big deal, unless Al himself shows up at Artemis to fit the ladies for new heels. I hope he brings his daughter!

Horbate

[QUOTE=Horbate; 1331189]I was wondering if any regulars to Berlin and Artemis are familiar with the size and impact of the upcoming Berlin Messe event " EAS- Euro Attractions Show", ending on my first planned day at Artemis on Thurday. 11. 10. 12. I was planning to visit Artemis late afternoon through evening, but, would rather avoid terribly busy times. If anyone would be so kind to comment, I would appreaciate it.

I assume the Messe event that follows, through the weekend,"Al Bundy Schuhboerse" is no big deal, unless Al himself shows up at Artemis to fit the ladies for new heels. I hope he brings his daughter!

Horbate[/QUOTE]The EAS fair isn't open for public. Approx. 7.000 visitors last year. For comparision: Innotrans fair, responsible for very busy nights in Artemis last week, counted more than 100. 000 visitors. IMHO the impact on the business in Artemis is negligible.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer; 1331199]The Euro Attractions Show fair isn't open for public. [/QUOTE]Ironic ain't it? The real number one Euro attraction is just a few hundred meters south of the Euro Attraction Show. So close, and yet so far.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1331230]Ironic ain't it? The real number one Euro attraction is just a few hundred meters south of the Euro Attraction Show. So close, and yet so far.[/QUOTE]Maybe you mix it up. What you're talking about is the real 60 (and more) Euro attraction just a short walk away from the fairgrounds, aren't you?

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1331310]Maybe you mix it up. What you're talking about is the real 60 (and more) Euro attraction just a short walk away from the fairgrounds, aren't you?[/QUOTE]Yup-you have indeed grasped the subtle irony, caused by the very mixing of the 2 ideas.

Managed to score an invite to the birthday bash and official opening of the new Art's Wing Sat night. It does sort of resemble a kind of tiny town, so I shall name it here, Poondorf.

Had a fine (non-sexual) time with the usual steer on a spit and various eats, and it was pretty full around 21:30. The girls were for a change in evening dress and gowns and the results were curious. Some hotties (eg Jenna and Brigitta) looked even hotter in simple black dresses, some normally not so attractives looked pretty good dressed up, and some hotties revealed their dubious fashion sense both in dress and seriously done up (like Medusa) hair. My personal favorite was one who wore a white blouse with a skirt that had long white mohair, looking like a cross between human attached to a sheep or a polar bear (think O Lucky Man). If I had been camping out, the fire was low, and she walked by, I might have shot first and asked questions later.

Anyway it was indeed a rarified atmosphere with ribbon cutting, Haki and Kennan dressed up to greet all etc. Obviously exhausted from the last sprint to finish enough to open to the public. I left a little early due to the crowds so I missed the live music, fireworks, and laser show. RB had to settle for his own show, having had his wicked way with the voluptuousens Busa (Turkish German) and Bella (Blond Cuban) whom RB recommends, as always.

RB tried to be the first to break-in a bedroom in Poondorf with a willing accomplice but security said nein danke. There are 10 new rooms and most but not all are finished and have beds ready for romping but it was a wee bit chilly and the door locks and heaters not quite sorted. Poondorf itself was sort of a Potemkin village; the new showers and bathrooms are tiled but no faucettes or toilets are in, the sauna done but heating system not up and running, and the pool and jacuzzi while finished, are not heated yet. The pool and jacuzzi, lit up last night, were attractive and should be great additions once all up. My guess is it could be another 2 weeks or so before all fully open and operational. Still it was a fine night and there was a good vibe on for one and all.

Quick question about Artemis:

I have heard there are some places to casually lounge. Would it be ok to sleep in the club for a bit towards the end of the night? From my experiences in Macau, it is alright to sleep in the club, but those places are 24/7.

The reason I ask is I will arrive in Berlin Monday afternoon and want to hit up Artemis right away and spend a decent amount of time there. I will be staying with a friend in Berlin and don't want to wake him up in the middle of the night to get into his house after Artemis.

[QUOTE=NMMooreland; 1333472]Quick question about Artemis:

I have heard there are some places to casually lounge. Would it be ok to sleep in the club for a bit towards the end of the night? From my experiences in Macau, it is alright to sleep in the club, but those places are 24/7.

The reason I ask is I will arrive in Berlin Monday afternoon and want to hit up Artemis right away and spend a decent amount of time there. I will be staying with a friend in Berlin and don't want to wake him up in the middle of the night to get into his house after Artemis.[/QUOTE]There's a couple of places where you can sleep in (relative) peace:

-on the big circular couch at the bottom of the stairs.

-on the loungers by the pool.

-on the couches in the downstairs bar.

You will probably get propositioned by some girls in all these areas but it's normally possible to grab some Z's. I generally grab a towel and wrap it around my head 'Lawrence of Arabia' style to keep out light and noise when I'm trying to sleep in these areas.

Suddenly I had this horny feeling, so I bought a ticket to Berlin. At the airport I had sushi. I love sushi.



ARIEL: 21, French / German: Slender. 170 cm. Short dark hair, Rihanna look-a-like. Several guys mentioned this to her. Speaks good english." I give you normal service in a 30 minutes program, but if you upgrade to 1 hour, I'll open up my heart for you, and you can also DFK". Great kissing, fabulous 69, small tight clean fresh pussy, small lips, great wet BJ, sucking and licking balls."Sorry you are too large for doggy, but I love to have my ass fucked". WTF? Normally this penis related comments are pre-programmed compliments, kind of egoboost, and no, I'm not spectacular at all. But I didn't want this to spoil my session, so we finished in mish. Relaxing, and nice talking afterwards until she started stroking my cock and kissing my mouth and body. Began doing excellent BJ, suddenly executed the action."I only perform BJ if you pay for CIM. Even if you don't manage to finish, you must consider this 50 E as a payment for the work". Once again WTF, but still I was more interested in the session since the quality was high. CIM in 69, great satisfaction. The day after I visited Artemis again she approached me, but I ruled her out and told her the disadvantages of having this strategy."People will not repeat". Sad beautiful eyes. Ciao!

Verdict: B.

ANYA: 20something POL: Doing economic education in Germany. Blond long hair, very thin, BMI below recommended minimum level. But I can't save everyone, especially when you lick my ears and speak dirty while stroking my cock the Gandhi and Mother Theresa in me fade away. Kissing lips, not DFK. She wanted 69, great oral performance. Very good RC, hard working, finished in doggy. She told me to notice the goose bumbs on the skin of her legs. A nice remark, hopefully something only Kimino and I have managed to achieve? I don't think so. Will repeat.

Verdict B-

NELLA: 22 GER. Optifick deluxe. Astonishing body, long blond hair, ice queen. 170 cm. Good english. During a sloppy BJ "You're here very often, you must be wealthy"."No I'm not, only priorities"."I don't believe you". Not a smile at all, cold as ice. Terrible atmosphere in zimmer. Lost my stiffness before penetration." This is not good for fucking, wait" Brought some oil, started giving me a horrible HJ. Used more oil at me than the chefs at the Italian restaurants of Kudamm."Wait, I can help you I told her, then she moved away without giving any attention. I was tempted to ask her how much extra she charged for some enthusiasm. I aborted the session. Waste of everything. Unable to finish when people remind me of Saddam Hussein.

Verdict E-

CINDY: POL 21, looks younger. 160 cm, small, blond. Very nice smile and face. Unskilled BJ, but nice touching and licking of balls. No kissing. I asked for penetration, but she said "no, wait!". WTF? These young girls born after 1990 are very often aiming for CIM. Gave her another 10 minutes and with 5 minutes left told her I want to finish and not extend the time. No complaining, she was surprised I didn't finish. Entered her pink Polish pussy and banged her in mish until a mediocre orgasm. Girls who don't kiss must compensate and she was only ok. No fireworks unfortunately.

Verdict: C.

MICHELLE: COLOMBIA, mid twenties. 170 cm, slender, short dark hair, sometimes using hair extensions, has got the most amazingly beautiful eyes at Artemis. Really nice girl. Good DFK, BJ,"Baby, please lick my pussy, can I sit on your face?". What a tasty, sexy, delicious encounter! Having her pussy grinding my mouth and nose, and still able to take a close up view to her terrific silky skin, touching her all over, watching her caress her breasts with closed eyes, sometimes looking at me with her beautiful smile makes me feel 15 years younger. Artemis going downhill? You just made the wrong picks! Will repeat and have done 3 times. Sometimes I wish I could have a picture of her eyes. I always do 1 hour, I have the feeling that she's able to upsell CIM during shorter sessions.

Verdict: A-

MAYA: 28 POL. 160 cm. Blond, long hair, pornstar look. Please note: there are 2 blond Polish Mayas at Artemis. Both are superstars. This one is the smallest, and she doesn't kiss. But she does compensate convincingly with all the right moves, touches, all details are perfectly performed. She is an optifick from another time and space. She looks so hot that during BJ I was mentally confused. Is this happening to me? Do I get all this pleasure for 60 E? Actually I didn't fuck her, she gave me one of the best BJ ever, and though I've had sessioned several times thatday, I exploded in her mouth. Hope I see her again. Just the view of her body is worth the 60 euros.

A-

LOTUS: 25 (?) POL: 170 cm, slim, sweet, long brown hair. Works in the kino ground floor. Convinced me in the kino, fantastic BBBJ. Continued to zimmer, and I have to say, this is on my all time top 3 list. Spectacular 69 and cowgirl ended up in one of my strongest orgasms. Actually the best. Ever. Period. I should have tipped her. I did not. Next time I will.

A.

VIOLA, RUS: 24, 170 cm, slim, dark shoulderlong hair, pale skin, she approaches carefully, gives a nice conversation without any pressure. Elegant approach, not this useless fucking "baby, baby" BS. Perfectly shaped B / C cups. Nicely shaved, with a dark strip remaining for the sake of beauty and lust. Very good BJ, she actually has repeat customers due to the skills, so she said, and she didn't disappoint. Good humor and nice conversation with limited english, but still great session. Will repeat.

A-

MANUELLA (ROM) 26, long blond hair, tanned skin, has been working at Artemis for several years (before 2009) I asked for a romantic session, she said she wash't able to do that. I thought I should cancel the program, but was very curious about this girl. Good but mechanical BJ, LFK, but it did not work out for me. I wanted to relax with her and talk, but it seemed like since I was ungepopped, she felt bad and couldn't relax. Gave me a new round BJ+HJ, but the session was dead. I think she's a good session depending on your mood and sexual strength, but I will not repeat, there are too much talents out there.

C.

IVY (GER) 23: She's been developing and we had a very good session with kissing, good oral sex and atmosphere in zimmer. She is 175, slender, black hair, and the most beautiful brown eyes. Will continue my sessions with her.

A-



Thank you Angus and Rocketboy for first class company. Amazing guys.

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1333611]Suddenly I had this horny feeling, so I bought a ticket to Berlin. At the airport I had sushi. I love sushi.[/quote]Thanks for the report Zimmerbaby! Going to be useful tonight.

Ciao

atZimmerbaby.

Thank you for your reports. I know most of your tested girls.

Nella looks quite well in my opinion but its absolute terrrible what happened.

I don't want to test her now.

Lotus: Great body, great service. If she just didn't have that boob job done.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1333759]Lotus: Great body, great service. If she just didn't have that boob job done.

HB[/QUOTE]Do you know this girl from the Frankfurt clubs or were you lucky enough to meet her during your Berlin visit?

Fucked her at Arte about 2 months ago.

HB

I was in Berlin last week Tues-Thurs and was able to visit all 3 nights. My last visit was 6 months ago and I was really hoping to see my 3 favorite girls Nina, Sheenya, and Karla.

I arrived on Tuesday around 8PM and it was fairly slow all night in terms of number of men. I didn't see any of my favorites yet but was approached by Denisa who remembered me from earlier doubles with Sheenya. With her was Yoliana I think it was pronounced who apparently I had seen before with Karla but I didn't remember. I went with the two of them for 30 minutes. The session was okay but I didn't repeat with either despite multiple approaches over the 3 days. However, one of the gems, Sheenya later appeared and she also remembered me. I went with her and Cecile who was a hot blond from Romania I believe. It was a good session. Cecile was okay but Sheenya reminded me why I liked her so much. That girl can DFK like no one else. Session 3 was Sheenya and a thin, dark haired Romanian whose name escapes me. Again, Sheenya was great and the other girl was just okay.

Day 2 and I arrived at 9PM. I found Sheenya so went with her and another girl I forget. Same old story with Sheenya great and the other girl just okay. After session 1 who stops me in the bar area but Karla. I didn't recognize her because her hair was lighter. The short story is 2 sessions with Sheenya and Karla. There two together was absolutely amazing. Karla maybe gives the best blowjob I've ever had and Sheenya with 69 and DFK like she lost a million dollars down my throat!

Day 3 started with Karla and her friend Lauradonna or Laura also I think. Laura was smoking hot but just okay. Karla again was amazing and I finished quickly for session 1. While resting in the bar back by the kino who did I spy but Nina, the one missing piece to my trip. That girl was a photographic memory. Not only did she remember me but she remembered details such as what room we were in 6 months prior and who we were with. I don't think Nina is much for duos but I talked her into a session with me and Karla which was spectacular. Nina has such an amazing body and to me Karla is great also. Luckily for me Thursday was Nina's first night back from a 3 week holiday. In an earlier visit Nina reminded me of how I had spoken of Coni. Coni though was gone from my previous visits so I only assumed she retired or something. Nina says that no Coni is here tonight and pointed her out to me. So the final session was Nina and Coni. It was another great one hour session. I felt really bad because they had to work really hard to make me go. It was my 13th session in 5 days as I had been at Oase on the Sunday before so 4 FKK visits in 5 days. They made it happen though and sent me out in style. Simply a great week in Artemis. I only wish I could have stayed for the Saturday anniversary party but I had to get back to Frankfurt. At least I have a final visit or two to Oase before leaving Germany this time.

[QUOTE=BigBad;1333864]I That girl was a photographic memory. Not only did she remember me but she remembered details such as what room we were in 6 months prior and who we were with.[/QUOTE]You are about the 5th guy who has made this comment about Nina's memory. I am starting to suspect that she somehow always gets the same room and then uses this to flatter the guys that she remembers them. ;)

Whatever the case she is one of the best, Glad you had a good time and thanks for the informative report.

AM

A useful catalog from Zimmerbaby, especially for those of us who don't like to flush Euros down the toilet and are looking for an A-level experience *every* time. (I don't grade A-F by the way, but 1-10. E. G. Your A- is my 7 and your A+ is my 8.)

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby; 1333611]ARIEL: 21, French / German: Slender. 170 cm. Short dark hair.

Began doing excellent BJ, suddenly executed the action."I only perform BJ if you pay for CIM. Even if you don't manage to finish, you must consider this 50 E as a payment for the work". Once again WTF, but still I was more interested in the session since the quality was high. CIM in 69, great satisfaction. The day after I visited Artemis again she approached me, but I ruled her out and told her the disadvantages of having this strategy."People will not repeat". Sad beautiful eyes. Ciao![/QUOTE]I too have "had the pleasure" with the sad-eyed Ariel, also known as Catwoman. A high-quality girl in many ways but crudely materialistic. She could play her game a lot more cleverly if she made the imaginative jump from "Grab what you can" to "Repeat business pays." It took cultures many centuries to make that conceptual leap, and some people are still catching up.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1333881]You are about the 5th guy who has made this comment about Nina's memory. I am starting to suspect that she somehow always gets the same room and then uses this to flatter the guys that she remembers them. .

Whatever the case she is one of the best, Glad you had a good time and thanks for the informative report.

AM[/QUOTE]That is funny Angus but possibly true. I will say last Thursday I had 2 sessions involving Nina and the first was in room 17 which is exactly the one she quoted me from 6 months prior. The second session was in room 19 though not previously mentioned. In her defense though she did quote me many details of conversations we did have from the previous 6 months which were of such detail that you wouldn't figure most of these girls would remember. If they remember my face and roughly who I am when I might visit twice a year than I am impressed. Actually to remember details of sessions or conversations we might have had that much later is impressive to me given the number of guys they have been with in that time. I always figure once the money stops flowing I'm forgotten.

After visiting Royal in the early afternoon, played the tourist a bit and then reached Artemis around 6pm.

I showered and entered the main room, very soon I was super happy in noticing that Heather (or Esther, never remember) was there.

Czech, curly hair late twenties or early thirties, probably the second. She is for sure one of my favorites since allways but being that she is not allways there I very rarely have the luck of finding her when I visit Artemis. Great sex without restrictions or don't's, lots of fun and laugh, we went a bit long on the 30 min but still asked only for 60 (+ cim).
Vote: IX

Natalia, already been with her. Polish, blondish, long hair. Nice face and body. Has a tatoo with 2 wings (probably an angel) just above her ass. We absolutely clicked and had a very intense session. She came and thanked in embarassment during DATY and later on while in doggy. The only idiot that couldn't come was me. Stayed a full 30 min. + a cigarette.
Vote: VII

Went out for dinner and came back later planning to just hang around a bit. While chatting with Soledad, a girl I like but only out of the room, a friend of her showed up saying she knew me and that we had quite a few sessions couple of years ago. Could be but just couldn't remember.

Ramona, half transylvanian half something else, mid / short haircut, brown. A bit overweight for my standards, mid twenties. Big tits. With tonights lineup I would have never chosed her but 10 minutes after we where in one of the rooms beside the kino of the lower floor. Ramona is very voluptuous and hot. Started giving me a spectacular BBBJ, and after a few minutes I was sure I wanted to stay there as long as possible and that's exactly what happened compromising budgetwise the evening that until that point had been cheap although very intense. But I couldn't care less. Anyways, stayed with her a little less than 90 minutes, had cim, one of the best I ever had in the pay per fuck arena, meaning she played around a bit instead of rushing to spit out like normally happens. Total damage 230.
Vote: VII

Nina was beautyfull in her lingerie tonight and was going to take her but it didn't happen, will do tomorrow.

Spotted a few completely new (to me) girls that were quite intriguing but this round I'm not in the mood to test new talents. Upset Ivy wasn't there.

When I left around midnight, a lot of people had arrived and the vibe was great.

The new area of the club is closed, I was told and the only new thing I noticed was a sliding door at the entrance of tha main room, new bar tenders and the absence of someone taking care of the music which stopped few times.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1334073]Natalia, already been with her. Polish, blondish, long hair. Nice face and body. Has a tatoo with 2 wings (probably an angel) just above her ass. We absolutely clicked and had a very intense session. She came and thanked in embarassment during DATY and later on while in doggy. The only idiot that couldn't come was me. Stayed a full 30 min. + a cigarette.

Vote: VII[/QUOTE]Ever since having a short chat with her about 6 months back (I was finished for the night on that occasion) she has been on my mental to do list. Yet I have never once seen her on the nights I was there. From your report It seems I will have to redouble my efforts to meet her as she sounds quite lovely.

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino;1334073]I showered and entered the main room, very soon I was super happy in noticing that Heather (or Esther, never remember) was there.[/QUOTE]Heather has got curly blond hair (see Artemis website, three pics there). Don't remember when I've seen her for the last time. The name of the brownhaired Czech lass you've headed upstairs is Esther or Eszter.

[QUOTE=The Limey;1333908]I too have "had the pleasure" with the sad-eyed Ariel, also known as Catwoman. A high-quality girl in many ways but crudely materialistic. She could play her game a lot more cleverly if she made the imaginative jump from "Grab what you can" to "Repeat business pays." It took cultures many centuries to make that conceptual leap, and some people are still catching up.[/QUOTE]Definitely! I would love to repeat with this girl, but maybe explain to her in a polite way what is considered to be annoying with her strategy in beforehand. Lovely girl, sweet, tight and sexy.

[QUOTE=Katinka;1329909]I may have made my last vist to Artimis on Friday. It was over run with polar bears. *It is a guess but my guess is 70 men to 30 women. *Worst I have seen at any FKK anywhere. *Girls were impatient (buddy had same experience). *I had planned to go back the next night, but will not.[/QUOTE]Well, some days the vibe there is good, and some days it's bad. The odd thing is that even when the ratio of women to men is good, the vibe can still be bad. I heard that when women work together their menstrual cycles sync up, so it could be something to do with that.

For example, I was there recently on a quiet day, with not a lot of guys around. The girls clustered at the bar were not making much effort to engage the few customers sprawled on the couches.

I was checking out Anika (Annika) , a heavily-tattooed Hamburger who reminds me of Milla Jovanovic. She had come onto me strong in the past and I had always wanted to give her a spin but never got round to it. When she saw me looking at her, she grinned and held out her arms in a gesture sort of like,"What are you waiting for?" However, when I approached her at the bar, she suddenly wouldn't talk to me, and made a big show of giving me the cold shoulder in front of everybody.

It seems that the girl was upset that I had turned her away on a couple of earlier occasions and wanted to seek revenge by rejecting me in turn. In fact she was probably waiting to do that for a long time. But the thing is, if I pass over a girl, I always do it nicely. The girls need to stop being so damned touchy and learn that sometimes a quiet "bis spaeter" is *not* intended as some kind of ultimate rejection. Sometimes "bis spaeter" means literally that: "until later".

Anyway, on balance difficult to justify planking down €80 entrance fee for this kind of uncool behaviour. Maybe I'll take my business elsewhere for a while. The reason people go to Artemis is that the girls are basically friendly and approachable (and naked). But hostile naked women are not worth anything to anyone.

After a nice couple of hours chatting with Rocketboy and Angus, I reached Artemis around 6pm. Windy and rainy afternoon in Berlin. The vibe has been good all night, until 4:30 when I left. A girl was having a small birthday party and this created even more atmosphere. Nothing particular to report, a nice night, disgusting food but the music was fine.

Don't know if it was Rocketboy or Angus talking to me about Marsha, I gave her a try.

Marsha, kind of a big girl, blonde, mid length hair. Russian, Polish? A bit wide in the hips, not a fat issue but a structural thing, she usually hangs out with the Polish team. Spent a nice half hour + cim. A lot of deep kissing and all the rest of the kit. She is very passionate and hot, also a nice girl to chat with. Recommended, will repeat.
Vote: VII

Don't know what hit me but after around a year of basically avoiding her I decided to take Raffaella to the room, I've reported on her ad nausea. Stayed an hour with some extras, usual great time. Towards the end of the evening, repeated with Esther (thanks Pharisier) , taking a bit more time than yesterday. Again a great session.

I noticed a very cute and new girl, and I'm sorry I didn't have a chance to try her. Short light brown hair, tall and well built, an incredible ass, tatoos, was hanging around with two german ice queens, not all the time but enough to trigger the suspect she could be like them.

Basically, two positive days at Art.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1334378]Basically, two positive days at Art.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reports Kimino. I RofD'ed them for the data base. It just goes to show that showing up with a good attitude is more important than the ups and downs of line ups or moods of a few girls.

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1334378]Marsha, kind of a big girl, blonde, mid length hair. Russian, Polish? A bit wide in the hips, not a fat issue but a structural thing, she usually hangs out with the Polish team. Spent a nice half hour + cim. A lot of deep kissing and all the rest of the kit. She is very passionate and hot, also a nice girl to chat with. Recommended, will repeat.

Vote: VII[/QUOTE]Marsha from Moscow, one of the few gems left.

[QUOTE=Kimino;1334378]I noticed a very cute and new girl, and I'm sorry I didn't have a chance to try her. Short light brown hair, tall and well built, an incredible ass, tatoos, was hanging around with two german ice queens, not all the time but enough to trigger the suspect she could be like them.[/QUOTE]You probably mean Yara (Jahra?) from Hamburg. She arrived at the club with a great attitude, then when the big ice queens adopted her, she became nervous about talking to anyone.

For an anthropologist studying conformity, Artemis is the most exciting place to be. I mean, sheesh, it's getting like Prom Night in there right now.

[QUOTE=The Limey;1334221]When she saw me looking at her, she grinned and held out her arms in a gesture sort of like,"What are you waiting for?" However, when I approached her at the bar, she suddenly wouldn't talk to me, and made a big show of giving me the cold shoulder in front of everybody.It seems that the girl was upset that I had turned her away on a couple of earlier occasions and wanted to seek revenge by rejecting me in turn. In fact she was probably waiting to do that for a long time.[/QUOTE]This is exactly the kind of thing that should be taken up with senior management. Otherwise, into your life it will creep. It could even lead to the The Caine Mutiny.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1334528]This is exactly the kind of thing that should be taken up with senior management. Otherwise, into your life it will creep. It could even lead to the The Caine Mutiny.[/QUOTE]I resemble that remark LOL!

[QUOTE=The Limey;1334498]You probably mean Yara (Jahra?) from Hamburg. She arrived at the club with a great attitude, then when the big ice queens adopted her, she became nervous about talking to anyone.[/QUOTE]I think you are right. I remember talking about her with Raffaella and she told me she was from Hamburg. So it must be her.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1334528]It could even lead to the The Caine Mutiny.[/QUOTE]LOL.

I plan to hit Artemis in a about an hour. I left Bremen in the morning and was really tempted to go back to World. But hey, I lost my FKK virginity to Artemis five years ago and there is always something about your first one that the others can't up.

I'll try to check my PMs while in, so if anybody wants to compare notes, let me know.

(And this probably should have been in the Travel Announcements section.)

[QUOTE=The Cane;1334550]I resemble that remark LOL![/QUOTE]Why seutenly, though of course not directed at you personally. Unless you can mutiny against yourself.

Chiara / Kiara POL 26, 165 cm, enhanced breasts, long black hair. I haven't seen her for at least one year. Any new information regarding her existence from the board of icebears?

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1335674]Chiara / Kiara POL 26, 165 cm, enhanced breasts, long black hair. I haven't seen her for at least one year. Any new information regarding her existence from the board of icebears?[/QUOTE]I've seen her for the last time in Artemis during summer (June?) 2012, don't remember exactly. No more news.

That's actually good news. She's still in this businness. Thanks!

Is there more than 1 surgically enhanced Chiara / Kiara from Poland I wonder? My all time top Artemis girl is Chiara / Kiara from Poland and is just as you describe except she had short blonde hair. She also has loads of tattoos; big angel wings on her back, stars above her tits and something between her knee and ankle that she's in the process of having lasered off. Is this the same girl?

If so, the last time I saw her was back in June I believe.

Yes G. That's her. On my top 3 list at Artemis. Fantastic girl, lovely sessions, nice personality, great service, sexy body.

I think it's the same lass we're talking about. Do you remember the red stars on her shoulders?

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1335692]That's actually good news. She's still in this businness.[/QUOTE]Some additional news: Yes she's still in business. A former regular of her told me she's doing some escort now.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1334378]After a nice couple of hours chatting with Rocketboy and Angus, I reached Artemis around 6pm. Windy and rainy afternoon in Berlin. The vibe has been good all night, until 4:30 when I left. A girl was having a small birthday party and this created even more atmosphere. Nothing particular to report, a nice night, disgusting food but the music was fine.

Don't know if it was Rocketboy or Angus talking to me about Marsha, I gave her a try.

Marsha, kind of a big girl, blonde, mid length hair. Russian, Polish? A bit wide in the hips, not a fat issue but a structural thing, she usually hangs out with the Polish team. Spent a nice half hour + cim. A lot of deep kissing and all the rest of the kit. She is very passionate and hot, also a nice girl to chat with. Recommended, will repeat.

Vote: VII.

Don't know what hit me but after around a year of basically avoiding her I decided to take Raffaella to the room, I've reported on her ad nausea. Stayed an hour with some extras, usual great time. Towards the end of the evening, repeated with Esther (thanks Pharisier) , taking a bit more time than yesterday. Again a great session.

I noticed a very cute and new girl, and I'm sorry I didn't have a chance to try her. Short light brown hair, tall and well built, an incredible ass, tatoos, was hanging around with two german ice queens, not all the time but enough to trigger the suspect she could be like them.

Basically, two positive days at Art.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Kimino. Always love reading your POSITIVE reports. A+ to you sir for verve.

On a personal. I have been sicker then a malle bull on bad crack with god knows what ailment but the Moracaino doctors blow so was lucky enough to be fixed up by a pommie Dr who said I just had a bad case of Aussie-arseholitis. Anyway. I manager to finally get a Schengen visa for my life and business and will be back in Berlin looking for lust again by 1 November.

Watch out Love Bahnhohf

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1336126]Watch out Love Bahnhohf[/QUOTE]Good to hear you are on the mend and headed back to Poondorf. Maybe better stick with the tried and true this time and avoid those dodgy semi pros out in the bars?

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1336343]Good to hear you are on the mend and headed back to Poondorf. Maybe better stick with the tried and true this time and avoid those dodgy semi pros out in the bars?

AM[/QUOTE]We will be handing out full body condoms, as part of the Valets of the Dolls service.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1336349]We will be handing out full body condoms, as part of the Valets of the Dolls service.[/QUOTE]Apparently my illness was not sex related. A kidney / blood problem but I welcome total [B]body protection[/B] If I partake.

May avoid all women until I am 100.

Also why are apartment prices higher in the Nov-Dec period?

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1336349]We will be handing out full body condoms, as part of the Valets of the Dolls service.[/QUOTE]RB isn't kidding. We already have the prototype.

[QUOTE=Belvaros; 1336126]Kimino. Always love reading your POSITIVE reports. A+ to you sir for verve.

On a personal. I have been sicker then a malle bull on bad crack with god knows what ailment but the Moracaino doctors blow so was lucky enough to be fixed up by a pommie Dr who said I just had a bad case of Aussie-arseholitis. Anyway. I manager to finally get a Schengen visa for my life and business and will be back in Berlin looking for lust again by 1 November.

Watch out Love Bahnhohf[/QUOTE]Good to hear you are up and running!

Have fun at Art. I'll have to wait until December, but the freezing temperatures make me appreciate even more the place.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1336363]RB isn't kidding. We already have the prototype.[/QUOTE]Can you make one for me with a hole instead of the rubber dick. It can double as a sex toy then.

What do you think, how crowded will next week be?

A friend is asking..

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus; 1337049]What do you think, how crowded will next week be?

A friend is asking.[/QUOTE]I'll expect Artemis to be crowded during next week due to Venus messe.

So that's why I'm waiting to hit it on Sunday.

NC

This place has definitely changed over the past year or so. On the good side, the food is better and the club seems to be less crowded with men particularly in the evenings. There are also lots of girls to choose from. On the negative, many girls are pushy and / or rude, an awful lot don't seem to be enjoying themselves, quite a few have had too much surgery often accompanied by excessive or inappropriately placed tattoos, and more guys seem to be coming down the stairs not looking happy.

I had a good two days but it took a lot of effort to find the right partners. I found one new girl on the Friday (2 hours) and then went with an old flame (1 1/2 hours). The second day I spent 6 hours with the new girl. It's a first for me to have booked a girlfriend for the day at this club. It's not quite as exciting as doing it in the summer at Oase when one can lie in a hammock together in the garden, but it was a good experience, sitting together in the lounge, moving upstairs, then going to dinner and ending up in a room again after coffee.

[QUOTE=London Traveller; 1337369]This place has definitely changed over the past year or so. On the good side, the food is better and the club seems to be less crowded with men particularly in the evenings. There are also lots of girls to choose from. On the negative, many girls are pushy and / or rude, an awful lot don't seem to be enjoying themselves, quite a few have had too much surgery often accompanied by excessive or inappropriately placed tattoos, and more guys seem to be coming down the stairs not looking happy.

I had a good two days but it took a lot of effort to find the right partners. I found one new girl on the Friday (2 hours) and then went with an old flame (1 1/2 hours).[/QUOTE]Sadly, I have to agree with much of what you say. Artemis is an old favourite of mine, but whereas it used to take me an hour to find a sexy, friendly girl, now it takes me three or four hours. You've basically got to look for a girl who is brand new or a girl you know really well who is not afraid of defying the gang rules.

There was an interesting post by Dick1 on the Berlin thread (before he was slapped down by a certain two members) that it might have something to do with the way girls are selected to come into Artemis. Is it based on value or is it based on their ability to work the system? I think that would be an interesting topic to discuss. Just as in any profession, it could be that there are many worthy girls who would love to make some cash at Artemis, but are excluded for the wrong reasons.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1327653&viewfull=1#post1327653[/url]

[QUOTE=London Traveller; 1337369]This place has definitely changed over the past year or so. On the good side, the food is better and the club seems to be less crowded with men particularly in the evenings. There are also lots of girls to choose from. On the negative, many girls are pushy and / or rude, an awful lot don't seem to be enjoying themselves, quite a few have had too much surgery often accompanied by excessive or inappropriately placed tattoos, and more guys seem to be coming down the stairs not looking happy.

I had a good two days but it took a lot of effort to find the right partners. I found one new girl on the Friday (2 hours) and then went with an old flame (1 1/2 hours). The second day I spent 6 hours with the new girl. It's a first for me to have booked a girlfriend for the day at this club. It's not quite as exciting as doing it in the summer at Oase when one can lie in a hammock together in the garden, but it was a good experience, sitting together in the lounge, moving upstairs, then going to dinner and ending up in a room again after coffee.[/QUOTE]Damn London, sounds like you are ready to settle down! As you know I never made it to Artemis this summer. How would you compare the lineups between Oase and Artemis? Six hours? Your making me look like an amateur, only spending 4. 5 hours with a girl at Oase as my longest booking. How much did six hours run you? Good to see you are on the hunt again LOL.

speechless.

after a good few weeks of reading this forum i finally decided to go ahead with my trip.

i don't really know how to start but anyway.

i had watched angus video on how to walk there from westkreuz in advance so getting there was no problem, thanks for making the video by the way.

was making my way there around 19:00 and as i was getting closer and closer my pulse went through the roof! i was so god damn nervous. finally saw the sign saying "artemis" on the roof and it struck me that i am really doing this! managed to barely get throughthe front door without fainting, puh!

once inside i made a quick glance up to the left towards the small lockers and i already saw 2 or 3 girls that was breathtaking. and knew i could take them to a room right then and there if i wanted to and it felt amazing!

changed into this ugly bathrobe which looked like it had been washed about 3000 times, but who cares when your surrounded by such beauty.

took a shower and remember thinking to myself that man, you have to calm down and get your shit together or else you will be the easiest pray to the sharks in the history of artemis. so i decided to go downstairs and relax a bit by the pool.

i had promised myself before i started the trip that i would not lose my first encounter with a "professional" to some ice queen and i intended to keep that promise.

well, it turned out to be way way harder than i had previously anticipated. made it about halfway down the stairs before before this tall brunette stopped me and the first words that came out of her mouth was,"is it your first time here" and i thought "shit, is it really that obvious?". she started with the sweet talk and before i knew it i had said yes to going up to a room, thinking the hell with the plans, let's do this!

i cannot recall her name since i had been paying more attention to her beautiful body rather than her words during our conversation. fortunately she was really sweet and took it slow and i quickly regained my confidence in the room. all in all a great first session but unfortunately lacking details to write a good report.

now i was finally getting the hang of things and went for a bite to eat in the restaurant. food was not great, reminded me of the food i got in school, but it didn't bother since it kept me energized enough to continue which was all i cared about.

session two was total garbage. forgot the name of the girl but she was a blond girl from spain. she kept complaining about stuff, her being tired and all that and that really turned me off and i decided to end the session after maybe 5 minutes.

this put me down to a near depressed state, thinking to myself "is this all artemis truly is?". contemplated leaving and never come back but decided that i was going to stay and think it through thoroughly, did not want to do anything hastily, all it was my main objective with this trip.

went down to the pool area for a good two hours or more before i went back up again to the main bar. sat at the couches in the back still in a funk when this petite hungarian girl with the most amazing eyes approached me, turned out her name was sharon. we had a nice friendly chat before i finally decided to go to a room. after all i sure did not want to do the same mistake as i did with the last girl again. once in the room we instantly clicked, she was really passionate, a true "girlfriend experience" if you may, i won't go into details but during the 3 days that i was there i ended up spending about 8-9 hours with her. a truly amazing time and she is the reason i'm already planning my next trip to berlin which should take place in a few weeks.

i don't have time right now to write about the other two days that i visited artemis but maybe some other day.

guess i'm hooked with the fkk concept! and i'm really happy that i am.

before the trip i had read around on forums and some people said that being young in there was a bad thing, that young people had a bad reputation of being rude and disrespectful to the girls and since i'm only 20 years old it got me quite worried that it would hurt my experience during my visit. but at least i didn't notice it to be a drawback, but i guess if you treat the girls with respect and kindness it doesn't matter.

to sum this all up i know this isn't the most well written report on isg but i just wanted to share my story and all i'm thinking about right now is to get back as soon as possible!

i also want to thank each and everyone that contributes to this forum, without it i probably would have never made this trip in the first place. i learned a lot of useful information and i look forward to read your future reports.

Thank you for reporting In Trance. Reading your first time report reminds me of my first visit to Artemis. Sweet memories from the day I discovered the strongest drug in my life. Be careful, it's called FKK, but has the same function as heroin.

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1338910]Thank you for reporting In Trance. Reading your first time report reminds me of my first visit to Artemis. Sweet memories from the day I discovered the strongest drug in my life. Be careful, it's called FKK, but has the same function as heroin.[/QUOTE]Me2, what doesn't kill make you stronger. The good thing about the FKK-drug, it doesn't kill you. Hehe

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1338910]Thank you for reporting In Trance. Reading your first time report reminds me of my first visit to Artemis. Sweet memories from the day I discovered the strongest drug in my life. Be careful, it's called FKK, but has the same function as heroin.[/QUOTE]I too enjoyed reading the young man's report. Brought a smile to my face. But Trance, don't fall into a trance with just one or a handful of women! You got to spread that loot among them tutes! Other girls there need some money for the "honey" too. And you need the prospect of NEW BOOTY at all times! Don't give it all to one, don't give it all to one and limit your fun! A part of the joy of mongering is finding new tutes. Oh no, it's not all about quantity. You want quality and a few favorites too. But when you're in a place like a FKK or a Brazilian terma, there's plenty of quality to be found, so spread your loot around! Don't "fall in love" with just one! Do that, and then she'll start acting possessive expecting you to give her all of your business. No way! When you go to a place like a FKK, you need to be in charge and fuck WHO you want WHEN you want. Now carry on lad, carry on!

[QUOTE=The Cane;1338924]I too enjoyed reading the young man's report. Brought a smile to my face. But Trance, don't fall into a trance with just one or a handful of women! You got to spread that loot among them tutes! Other girls there need some money for the "honey" too. And you need the prospect of NEW BOOTY at all times! Don't give it all to one, don't give it all to one and limit your fun! A part of the joy of mongering is finding new tutes. Oh no, it's not all about quantity. You want quality and a few favorites too. But when you're in a place like a FKK or a Brazilian terma, there's plenty of quality to be found, so spread your loot around! Don't "fall in love" with just one! Do that, and then she'll start acting possessive expecting you to give her all of your business. No way! When you go to a place like a FKK, you need to be in charge and fuck WHO you want WHEN you want. Now carry on lad, carry on![/QUOTE]That's exactly what happened to me. The seasoned pro she is, wrapped me around her little finger, making me spend maybe a few more sessions with her then I should have. I will make certain to bring that information with me in the back of my head during my next visit and hopefully find some other favorites too.

I have definitely fallen for the FKK drug and I sure hope it will bring me a lot more unforgettable memories in the near future.

Well- while all you oxytocin and endorphin addicts are commiserating, can someone please tell us how jammed, pleasant, or unbearable the Love Bahnhoff has been the past few days during Berlin's Venus Erotic Messe time? (To me, Berlin having a special adult Messe is kind of silly, as it is pretty much that everyday). But some recent reports about crowds and the lineup would be useful.

And in passing

In Trance - whatever else all us hardened grizzlies tell you - you have to keep this whole/hole thing in balance and perspective. Don't let a few days in the Candy Store mess up your mind, and cut you off from normal relationships with women. There is indeed a risk of this, and don' t kid yourself that it does not exist. The FKK thing is what it is - great fun. But keep it in its place. That is the risk of youth-that you can just get blinded and blind sided by the degree of choices, and how easy and affordable it is, relative to real relationships. Enjoy it, but don't let it cut you off from the real world, which it most certainly is not.

In some ways, I am glad I only discovered the scene late in life (in my 80s), as it helps me keep it in perspective. And of course the Lilly company is grateful as well.

Meanwhile - Artemis, the Venus flytrap, field reports, please, someone.....

I would like to have some info about Lilly.

Hugs from ZB aka Rainbow the FKK Monster

In trace- I would add that you should treat the girls nicely, but do not fall in love with them. Girls come and go, they also go with many, many different men. Otherwise, you will turm into some of the disfunctional men mentioned here who pine for their favorite girls and become obsessive when they go with other men. There are men who spend thousands of Euros on a girl and fall into a state of depression when she "leaves" him for some other guy.

[QUOTE=Akibono;1339357]There are men who spend thousands of Euros on a girl and fall into a state of depression when she "leaves" him for some other guy.[/QUOTE]And this differs from civilian life how? Nothing wrong with falling in love with the occasional 'ho. It is the stuff of existential literature and some really bad poetry. Just make sure, before you open your veins, to give old Angus a call so I can remind you that it is a bit cliched and not to take either the falling in love or the inevitable heart break quite so seriously. And yeah, probably best not to spend every last dime on the for hire gfs. That would really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off future wives who feel it is their exclusive right to make you fall in love and fleece you.

AM

[QUOTE=Akibono;1339357]There are men who spend thousands of Euros on a girl and fall into a state of depression when she "leaves" him for some other guy.[/QUOTE]How is this different from any woman, anywhere?

FTFY.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1339227]Well- while all you oxytocin and endorphin addicts are commiserating, can someone please tell us how jammed, pleasant, or unbearable the Love Bahnhoff has been the past few days during Berlin's Venus Erotic Messe time? (To me, Berlin having a special adult Messe is kind of silly, as it is pretty much that everyday). But some recent reports about crowds and the lineup would be useful.

Meanwhile. Artemis, the Venus flytrap, field reports, please, someone.[/QUOTE]I was at the A from 14. 00-23. 00 yesterday. It didn't start to get really busy until 20. 00 or so. The atmosphere was good, lots of girls (some we're [i]very[/i] Busy) and the girl / girl sex shows in the main bar were a real treat. Max wait time for an upstairs room was about 30 miniutes according to Nina.

Full report to follow.

These are my 2 bad feelings about girls now in Artemis:

- some girls are too pushy and too quick in saying 'let's go fuck', They don't even try to start a conversation. As for me of course I usually avoid them and I don't consider them any longer as 'candidates' but they still get other customers (maybe more newbies / occasional tourists?)

- too many fake boobs around for my taste, some of them ugly to see IMHO, but I see they get a lot of customers as well so I guess it is a matter of taste.

On Friday October 12th

- Nina: one hour, very good session as expected with her. Great repeat value.

- Yara from Hamburg, light brown hair (not short, not long) , early 20s, slim, half an hour: from all the girls I saw was the one that stimulated me the most. First thing I noticed, she took time in talking with potential clients. She did it with me as well but I didn't go with her the first time. Later I searched for her. The session wasn't that great from her part, she wasn't participating much, but I managed to fancy the session anyway since she looked so good to me and I tasted her beautiful white skin (I mean not the fake tan). I have to say the she had a cold though, maybe it influenced her, I don't know. I think next time if I find her I might try again to see if the attitude in the room will be better. That would be great since she looks also a lot fresher than most of the girls.

Saturday 13th.

- Carolina from Latvia: late 20s, tall, brown hair, one hour, good. I had already had a session with her previously.

- Alexandra, Romania, early 20s, long brown hair, half an hour: I suspected she would be cold in the room since I got it from her general attitude out of the room. I had avoided her in my previous visits but she looked so good I had to try her just for the sake of it. I somewhat enjoyed it for her great looks and beautiful body but I would not repeat.

- Nina: one great hour again with also cim.

Buck

[QUOTE=Buck Rogers; 1339505]These are my 2 bad feelings about girls now in Artemis:

- some girls are too pushy and too quick in saying 'let's go fuck', They don't even try to start a conversation. As for me of course I usually avoid them and I don't consider them any longer as 'candidates' but they still get other customers (maybe more newbies / occasional tourists?)

- too many fake boobs around for my taste, some of them ugly to see IMHO, but I see they get a lot of customers as well so I guess it is a matter of taste.[/QUOTE]Hey Buck, interesting info on Yara. She is on my todo list. Very cute.

About the preliminary conversation thing, although it's in the manual, I almost never talk with the girls before. Once I decide a girl is intriguing me I just pick her and go to the room. At the max I check to know if she is a "not this, not that" kind of girl and if she is ok with DATY. I also noted with a couple, that after asking the DATY thing, she would park me in the room for a few minutes with an excuse and then come back after going for an extra wash. I'm kind of certain about this, I find it actually a bright thing to do, igienically. But the one thing that completely turns me off is when I get approached in Romanian fake italian with lines like: "sono la regina del pompino" (I'm the blow job queen) or similar.

On the other hand, some people need the girls to go up to them. I remember once at Colosseum in Augsburg, where girls are not allowed to go up to the guys and have to wait for them to make the first move, and a friend of mine had some difficulties in the situation.

Kimino

[b]friday 19th october. messe madness[/b]

after reading the reports on here about the launch party for the outdoor area i thought it was open. so i arrived at the a around 14. 30 planning on exploring the new facilities. it was a beautiful sunny day in berlin so some outdoor action would have been a great way to pass some time. unfortunately work was still done to finish the new space off out so there was no fun in the sun for me. what i saw looked pretty good though – the pool looks a nice size and the sauna and outdoor zimmers should be a good addition to the current setup. i'm not sure how it will be accessed though. is the only way to get out through the non-smoking bar in the basement?

anyway. after arriving much earlier than my usual artemis start time the place was pretty quiet. i wasn't sure what to expect with the venus conference on but things seemed the same as usual for an artemis afternoon. there were maybe 15 men and 20 girls rep001tered around the club. i recognised a lot of the girls but i only know the following names: jenna, nina, ivy, bella, amalia, cindy, sara and jennifer.

i did a few circuits, had some drinks and cigarettes before i had my first session. i was unsure whether to go go for a girl i've never been with before or someone i knew i was guaranteed a good time with. after thinking about this for a while i found myself standing next to jenna at the bar. i've had a few sessions with jenna so after a quick chat we headed upstairs.

[b]jenna from germany[/b]

there's not much to be written about jenna. there have been loads of reports on her in this thread and i'the be fairly certain most of them are positive. this was a good, solid session. great sex with a real pro. i had her finger my ass while she jerked me off to a really powerful orgasm. €110 total cost and a good start to the day.

i chilled out for a while. walked around, had some naps and read for a while in the downstairs bar. there was a pretty mellow atmosphere in the club and it was nice to just stroll around.

back in the main bar i was relaxing with a cup of tea and a smoke when i was joined on the couch by svenna (?) from germany.

we had a really nice chat. she wasn't pushy or aggressive – trying to get a commitment to go to the room as soon as the conversation started. we had a cigarette and a drink. then she explained to me that her deep-throat skills were second to none. i've had a few world-class blow jobs over the years so i wanted to test out this claim so we headed upstairs to room 23, my favorite room in the club.

[b]svenna from germany [/b]

after lots of kissing and touching we got down to some real sex. true to her word svenna did give stellar bj. great technique, slow when required but hard and fast at the right time. after a glorious bj i got rubbered up and we had an energetic, sweaty shag. i removed the rubber and stood up to finish in her very talented mouth. another €110 session worth every penny.

it was after 18. 00 now and the club was starting to fill up but i've seen it busier on regular non-messe days. i had a massage and some dinner before looking for my next girl. my all time favourite girl is ciarra from poland so i decided to look for her. after an hour or so there was no sign of her. i reckon if she wasn't working on one of the busiest days of the year she must be finished with the artemis. so it was time to pick another girl. i spotted amalia from romania in the upstairs bar. i've had some fantastic session with her in the past so i had a nice chat with her and we headed upstairs.

[b]amalia from romania [/b]

amalia is a tall blonde with a beautiful face, a great body and the prettiest eyes in the a. we had a lot of fun together, she's cute and playful but knows when to turn nasty when required. the sight of her beautiful eyes looking up at me while my cock was in her mouth was a highlight of the day. after some great, hard sex i realised i wasn't going to be able to finish inside her. so i took the condom off and i jerked off while she licked and squeezed my balls. she put a condom onto 2 of her fingers, lubed in up and slid it into my ass. after a few wonderful minutes i came hard across my stomach. i lay there panting with my heart going like a train while she smiled down at me. wow. awesome session and i think i have a new favourite girl at the a. she only wanted €60 (i was under the impression that a girls fingers in my ass was an extra) but i gave her a big tip. excellent session. guaranteed repeat.

it was after 20. 00 now and the place was hopping. there were loads of robes wandering around and there was a constant stream of new guys at the reception. there was a big crowd around the stage outside the kino in the smoking bar so i went down to see what was happening. there was a 2 girl sex show starting. one girl in a sexy police woman cap and another playing the 'criminal'. they really got into their performance and at one point they used a big double-ended dildo on each other. it was a lot of fun to watch and really turned up the atmosphere. i don't know if the working girls appreciated the distraction because there didn't seem to be much trace happening while the show happened. after the girls finished i chilled in the bar for a while before the second show started. again. 2 hot girls going at it. and again it was super-hot.

i felt like it was time for session 4. i knocked back a few approaches. i reckoned this would be my last shag of the day so i wanted to be sure of a good time. i'the seen nina working the floor and going up and down the stairs since earlier in the afternoon. i'the been with her before and she's always a star so after a chat we headed for a room.

[b]nina from czech[/b]

we walked a little bit up the stairs but there was a big queue and she reckoned there was a 30 minute wait. i was ready to go so i suggested a downstairs room next to the kino. there was only 1 free curtained area and the sounds of sex were coming from each of the other rooms. we pulled the curtain behind us and got down to it.

nina must be the ultimate pro at the artemis. i'the guess she fucked 20 guys that day but even after that she was still gave an amazing performance. a fantastic blow job and a great, hard shag in a handful of positions (her pussy was amazingly tight) led to a great doggie-style finish. definitely one of the best girls at the club and a winner every time. money well spent and a definite repeat.

i left around 23. 00 and the club was very busy by then but was certainly not as chaotic as i thought it was going to be.

a great day with 4 fantastic sessions. only one new girl but that's the way it goes sometimes. i've no regrets about my choices.

thanks for reading.

last chance at the love bahnhoff for several weeks. so rb took the plunge sat night. fairly but not unbearably full with the end of venus, though a lot of the hard core a-team absent, with a few newbs. had sort of what i would call "ho-hum" session with bella, curvy cubano, normally a fav, but she clearly needs a vacation which starts this week. later redeemed the night with a knockout tryst with german-turkish busa. we started in the kino as the wait upstairs was getting stupid, and then after maybe 15 min got a room near the exercise area. nothing like the sounds of stationary bikes, heavy weight lifting, the pornos on the screen, and all sorts of moanings and slurpings from neighbors to set the romantic mood. anyway a fine night, crowded but pleasant. the girls were saying the venus crowd was a bit weird, with more kinky requests eg [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord101][CodeWord101][/url] and its more solid brown cousin, than normal.

galazy. the new area (poondorf) is accessible either through the new glass doors in the kitchen, or by going out the side kitchen exit. rb took a stroll through and it still seems some weeks away from being fully finished. not all electrical lines laid in, not all the rooms have mattresses, some painting going on in the new shower area to the back, but clearly on the home stretch. just in time for winter. perhaps a little naked ice skating or hockey on the new pool.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1339792]Hey Buck, interesting info on Yara. She is on my todo list. Very cute.

On the other hand, some people need the girls to go up to them. I remember once at Colosseum in Augsburg, where girls are not allowed to go up to the guys and have to wait for them to make the first move, and a friend of mine had some difficulties in the situation.

Kimino[/QUOTE]I can understand. I kind of wait when the girl I'm interested in is in a group talking / smoking (unless it is a girl I already know). When I used to go to Koeln, at Samya I could only approach a girl myself.

In my opinion it is nice that you can be approached as well, I sometime fancy to get approached at the kino downstairs and get a preliminary blowjob there and then go up to a room.

But still a girl approaching me and telling me right away "do you want fuck me upstairs?" or something like that kind of turns me off.
It is different if you approach a girl and you go to the room right away.

Yara is in my to "redo better" list :-)

[QUOTE=Buck Rogers;1339909]Yara is in my to "redo better" list :-)[/QUOTE]Experience is the best teacher. My advice is don't make the same mistake twice.

I felt like it was time for session 4. I knocked back a few approaches. I reckoned this would be my last shag of the day so I wanted to be sure of a good time. I'the seen Nina working the floor and going up and down the stairs since earlier in the afternoon. I'the been with her before and she's always a star so after a chat we headed for a room.

[B]Nina from Czech[/B]

Thanks for a nice report Galazy. I'm soon trying out Artemis. I have earlier been several times to the Palace in Frankfurt, and I must admit that I have become quite a fan. I am really looking forward to try out a new Fkk. And I have high expectations.

I would really apreciate a "detailed" description of Nina. Could you describe her looks etc for me? Would have been really nice to memorize some names of good providers. And I have one general question. How "easy" is it to find providers that can DFK you in Artemis? I have NEVER had problems with that in the Palace. I really like "girlfriend sex". Thanks.

Norwegian90

[QUOTE=Norwegian90; 1339964]I felt like it was time for session 4. I knocked back a few approaches. I reckoned this would be my last shag of the day so I wanted to be sure of a good time. I'the seen Nina working the floor and going up and down the stairs since earlier in the afternoon. I'the been with her before and she's always a star so after a chat we headed for a room.

[B]Nina from Czech[/B]

Thanks for a nice report Galazy. I'm soon trying out Artemis. I have earlier been several times to the Palace in Frankfurt, and I must admit that I have become quite a fan. I am really looking forward to try out a new Fkk. And I have high expectations.

I would really apreciate a "detailed" description of Nina. Could you describe her looks etc for me? Would have been really nice to memorize some names of good providers. And I have one general question. How "easy" is it to find providers that can DFK you in Artemis? I have NEVER had problems with that in the Palace. I really like "girlfriend sex". Thanks.

Norwegian90[/QUOTE]Nina is Gina from Palace Fat Boy; p. I think you have seen her in Palace *wink*wink*

[QUOTE=Amriptna111;1339996]Nina is Gina from Palace Fat Boy; p. I think you have seen her in Palace *wink*wink*[/QUOTE]Haha, are you fucking kidding me? She left the Palace for Artemis? I have never sessioned with her, but I know she looks really hot. Her attitude is bitchy though. So that always has been ha turn of for me.

Norwegian90

[QUOTE=Norwegian90; 1339997]Haha, are you fucking kidding me? She left the Palace for Artemis? I have never sessioned with her, but I know she looks really hot. Her attitude is bitchy though. So that always has been ha turn of for me.

Norwegian90[/QUOTE]No, that's incorrect information. Look at the pictures on the Artemis website.

Woho, I am sooo excited.

I have been reading this thread for a couple of years and thinking that Artemis (and other FKKs must be such a great place) but never really been able to convince myself to go there myself. But tonight was the night and in somewhat of a spontaneus decision I booked my flight to Berlin. So now I have just over 1 week left until I finally enter Artemis.

I have paid for sex before (visited the Brussels and Amsterdam RLD:s) and I loved that experience, however I think this will be even better. .

So despite having read this thread many times I cannot really remember that many details, so what is your best FKK rookie tips guys?

I just watched Angus great youtube video of how to get there so I think that won't be a problem. However my plane arrives at Tegel airport 11:10 in the morning and I plan to basically go to Artemis straight away and stay there until they close since my returnflight is at 07:15 the next morning. Does that sound like a good plan? How long does it take to get from and to Tegel airport? What transportation would you recommend?

I plan to take around 600-700 euros with me, don't know if I will spend it all, but I rather take too much than too little. But where should I have my money while at Artemis. Do people just keep it in their locker all the time and go down there after a session to pay the girl?

I promise to write a report once I am back home. Hopefully it will be a good one.

[QUOTE=Occultus;1340034]No, that's incorrect information. Look at the pictures on the Artemis website.[/QUOTE]I was going to say that this Nina=Gina is false but was not really sure of it. I understand that she used to work at World but this was quite some time back and she has been exclusively at Artemis for a few years now.

AM

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin; 1340043]Woho, I am sooo excited.

I have been reading this thread for a couple of years and thinking that Artemis (and other FKKs must be such a great place) but never really been able to convince myself to go there myself. But tonight was the night and in somewhat of a spontaneus decision I booked my flight to Berlin. So now I have just over 1 week left until I finally enter Artemis.

I have paid for sex before (visited the Brussels and Amsterdam RLD:s) and I loved that experience, however I think this will be even better. .

So despite having read this thread many times I cannot really remember that many details, so what is your best FKK rookie tips guys?

I just watched Angus great youtube video of how to get there so I think that won't be a problem. However my plane arrives at Tegel airport 11:10 in the morning and I plan to basically go to Artemis straight away and stay there until they close since my returnflight is at 07:15 the next morning. Does that sound like a good plan? How long does it take to get from and to Tegel airport? What transportation would you recommend?

I plan to take around 600-700 euros with me, don't know if I will spend it all, but I rather take too much than too little. But where should I have my money while at Artemis. Do people just keep it in their locker all the time and go down there after a session to pay the girl?

I promise to write a report once I am back home. Hopefully it will be a good one.[/QUOTE]I would say first of all read this, my Artemis guide.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=690[/url]

Best way to get there from Tegel is to get to the ring line S Bahn then take the train to Westkreuz and walk as per the video. It shouldn't take more than a half hour this way so you will be there very early. You might want to plan on leaving at sometime for a short excursion as 15-16 hours in Artemis can be a long stretch.

Keep your money in the cash locker at the front-the Artemis guide explains it all.

AM

[QUOTE]what is your best FKK rookie tips guys?[/QUOTE]

3 tips:

-Read The F Forum- go back at least a year. It is all there. Everything you would ever need to know, apart from the Angus blog.

-If possible, Wed-Sat are the better nights. IMHO Thurs-Fri the best, a little less crowded, staff at full strength. Days are quieter than nights, in terms of sheer number of choices.

-Just when you first go, take it slow, get your bearings, don't rush into anything, talk first feel the vibe, and be very clear before you go to a room what you expect and what it will cost (esp. On kissing). Other kinky extras cost more, kissing should not. But some girls just won't so if it's an issue with you, be sure you understand what is, or is not cumming.

Would appreciate a post from somebody who knows the Czech Gina from Palace who can confirm whether or not she has indeed moved on to Artemis and plans to stay there.

Thanks

The Cane,

Would appreciate a post from somebody who knows the Czech Gina from Palace who can confirm whether or not she has indeed moved on to Artemis and plans to stay there.

Thanks

I didt a session with her yesterday at Palace, and she didt not say anything about going back to Artemis.

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin;1340043]I plan to take around 600-700 euros with me, don't know if I will spend it all, but I rather take too much than too little.[/QUOTE]You'll be surprised at how quickly you'll go through €700. Does that include your €80 entry fee?

Granted you'll be left with enough cash for 10 standard €60 sessions but if you add on some extras or a threesome (for example) your locker will be empty quickly. If you can get the cash together €1, 000 is a good amount to bring. I look at every visit I take as a 'once in a life time' trip so I'll always take more cash than I need. Looking forward to your report.

[QUOTE=Galazy;1339822]Svenna from Germany[/quote]Call her: Svenya.

[QUOTE=Galazy;1339822]My all time favourite girl is Ciarra from Poland so I decided to look for her. After an hour or so there was no sign of her.[/QUOTE]Call her: Chiara. She was working some days in Berlin in October, but she isn't an Artemis regular at the moment.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1340132]I was going to say that this Nina=Gina is false but was not really sure of it. I understand that she used to work at World but this was quite some time back and she has been exclusively at Artemis for a few years now.[/QUOTE]Quite correct.

[quote=speedymike; 1340633]the cane,

i did a session with her yesterday at palace, and she did not say anything about going back to artemis.[/quote]thanks for the intel speedymike. it's extremely annoying when people start to spread rumors. people need to have the facts before they write about stuff like this here! i'm looking forward to getting me some more of that.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1340717]Call her: Chiara. She was working some days in Berlin in October, but she isn't an Artemis regular at the moment.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. Do you know if she's working somewhere else in Berlin? In another club? She did mention she also did escort work.

Thanks for the replys, the days are quickly going by and I am coming closer and closer to Artemis. However, I have mixed feelings. Sometimes I question my self and ask myself why I booked that flight ticket. But I soon realize this is something I have been wanting to do for years. And it will surely be exciting.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1340163]I would say first of all read this, my Artemis guide.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=690[/url]

Best way to get there from Tegel is to get to the ring line S Bahn then take the train to Westkreuz and walk as per the video. It shouldn't take more than a half hour this way so you will be there very early. You might want to plan on leaving at sometime for a short excursion as 15-16 hours in Artemis can be a long stretch.

Keep your money in the cash locker at the front-the Artemis guide explains it all.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks Angus, I read you guide now. Very well written, it helps a lot very detailed. Good job! . I think you might be right I probably will want to leave Artemis for a couple of hours or so at one point or another. Is there any nice place nearby you could recommend for killing an hour or two inbetween all the fucking? .

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1340167]3 tips:

-Read The F Forum- go back at least a year. It is all there. Everything you would ever need to know, apart from the Angus blog.

-If possible, Wed-Sat are the better nights. IMHO Thurs-Fri the best, a little less crowded, staff at full strength. Days are quieter than nights, in terms of sheer number of choices.

-Just when you first go, take it slow, get your bearings, don't rush into anything, talk first feel the vibe, and be very clear before you go to a room what you expect and what it will cost (esp. On kissing). Other kinky extras cost more, kissing should not. But some girls just won't so if it's an issue with you, be sure you understand what is, or is not cumming.[/QUOTE]Thanks, going back one year and reading it all takes a long time, however I might do that over the weekend to get into the right mood. As I mentioned I already booked my flight and I will be in Berlin / Artemis on Monday. Not the best nights as you say, but that is the day that suited my schedual the best and I hope it won't be too much worse than Wed-Sat. Thanks, yea I will try to take it slow at the start, however I am not sure I will manage. But I'll do my best. .

[QUOTE=Galazy; 1340691]You'll be surprised at how quickly you'll go through €700. Does that include your €80 entry fee?

Granted you'll be left with enough cash for 10 standard €60 sessions but if you add on some extras or a threesome (for example) your locker will be empty quickly. If you can get the cash together €1, 000 is a good amount to bring. I look at every visit I take as a 'once in a life time' trip so I'll always take more cash than I need. Looking forward to your report.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed I was planning that the €700 would cover my entry fee as well as the transportation to and from Artemis from the airport. However, that was not a set value and if you think it might be better to bring €1k I might as well do that. I mean, better bringing more than to little, I can always take some with me back home again. But I have a feeling most of the money I take to Artemis I will find one or another way to burn. .

A threesome indeed does sound very interesting, I don't think I will ever get the chance to experience that in my normal life so why not try it out here. How much does the girls charge for that. €60 each per 30 minutes or is it more?

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin; 1341120]Yes indeed I was planning that the €700 would cover my entry fee as well as the transportation to and from Artemis from the airport. However, that was not a set value and if you think it might be better to bring €1k I might as well do that. I mean, better bringing more than to little, I can always take some with me back home again. But I have a feeling most of the money I take to Artemis I will find one or another way to burn. .

A threesome indeed does sound very interesting, I don't think I will ever get the chance to experience that in my normal life so why not try it out here. How much does the girls charge for that. €60 each per 30 minutes or is it more?[/QUOTE]Ciao Mrlarkin.

I agree with Galaxy's "once in a life time" mental approach, I do the same, in general. And if I can't afford that approach I simply stay home.

If money is not a big issue, bring enough to don't have to worry about it, you will take back what you won't spend. This said. 700 is more than enough to really have a good good time. Obviously it depends on the kind of session you will have. If you start having extras or some extended time the fees grow fast. Eg. 1hr with a girl, anal and cim will be 270. 30min with 2 is 120, if you go over the 30 min it gets to 240. And so on. Don't know if you fancy a whisky or similar, at Artemis an eyedrop of that costs 10euros. You will have great fun!

As to what to do when taking a break, Berlin has so much to offer. Depending on your tastes, on the weather and on the fact that this is your first visit to Berlin or not, you could play the tourist and have a long walk in Mitte, maybe from Brandenburg gate up to Alexander Platz, or look around Kudam. Pergamon museum if you are interested. Lot's of art galleries around. Maybe go find some decent food. Web will help you to find stuff of your interest.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin;1341120]Thanks Angus, I read you guide now. Very well written, it helps a lot very detailed. Good job! . I think you might be right I probably will want to leave Artemis for a couple of hours or so at one point or another. Is there any nice place nearby you could recommend for killing an hour or two inbetween all the fucking? .[/QUOTE]Artemis itself is in the middle of nowhere but you are close to a number of areas with a short S Bahn ride. Consider buying a day ticket when you arrive and take the S Bahn to Hackescher Mkt in Mitte or maybe the Wilmersdorf / Charlottenburg pedestrian street. It depends a bit on the weather when you are here what you might want to do.

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin]Yes indeed I was planning that the €700 would cover my entry fee as well as the transportation to and from Artemis from the airport. However, that was not a set value and if you think it might be better to bring €1k I might as well do that. I mean, better bringing more than to little, I can always take some with me back home again. But I have a feeling most of the money I take to Artemis I will find one or another way to burn.[/QUOTE]Personally I think €700 is pretty good for a day at Artemis. Though it never hurts to have a few euros in reserve for cost overruns. Most important is to try to control, to some extent, the situation with the girls. By all means let them up sell you a bit, but remember that you are in control of the funds not them. As a newbie (and they can sense this no matter what you say) some will try to take advantage. If you let them.

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin]A threesome indeed does sound very interesting, I don't think I will ever get the chance to experience that in my normal life so why not try it out here. How much does the girls charge for that. €60 each per 30 minutes or is it more?[/QUOTE]Threesomes are risky. The costs can soar so make sure everything is clear. If you really want a threesome I do not recommend going for one of the duos who walk around trying to sell it to you no matter how good they look and no matter what they say about their out of this world service. Find a girl you like and ask her if she has a girl with whom she does threesomes. This way you have a much better chance of remaining in control.

You are correct that threesome costs €60/half hr./girl. But lesbani action is an extra (€50/girl) . Then there is the question of CIM-if both girls take the jizz you are on the hook for 2 times €50. As I say, threesomes can spiral easily out of control and you could easily end up spending 300 plus euros on a mediocre experience of half an hour.

AM

This is a section I cut from a longer post in the Berlin thread. Though it would be more appropriate to post the Artemis reporting here.

Got there around 9 PM, showered, and got comfortable. Had a few initial shark attacks, but I have no trouble saying no (have been to Oase and Sylt before). Consistent with others who've reported, I did like the vibe at Oase a bit more (and the cheaper prices are also nice). However I still had a great time and would definitely visit Artemis again. In total I spent 540 Euros, in three sessions (one a duo). Here are the details:

#1: Maja and friend (POL) : My eye was soon caught by a couple of girls I thought were hot, and after some smiles back and forth the bolder one came over. Maja, from Poland, of course wanted to do a duo with her friend (also from Poland. Unusual made-up name I can't remember). Now I know this is total up-sell, but a duo with two Polish girls was something I'd been wanting to do and I really liked their look so I went for it. However, as noted by others, this is where it gets expensive because the base duo is 2x60 and if you want them to interact with each other it's another 2x50. I decided I was up for that, as I've had a couple of really good threesome experiences in the past (so total damage was 220). Said no to a bunch of other extras on offer (CIM, anal, etc.) and this did not hurt the vibe at all. It was a bit mechanical, and I knew I was being gamed, but I quite enjoyed it nonetheless. No kissing, and initially was told that "could only f*ck one girl in a half hour session". However after going at it with Maja for a while her friend really wanted to have a go and so that went out the window with no extra charges. I came doing Maja's friend while Maja was getting really into fingering her own *sshole so in the end the nasty-ness of it all made up for the other shortcomings and I came away satisfied with a good start.

#2: Natasha (RU) : now this was *the* killer session of the night, and an example of how it's best to go after the girl you want rather than wait for them to find you. Sometime after 10:30PM, as I was scouting out the talent around the bar, I spotted for the first time a tall red-haired girl who had that "special something". I have to say that we have a lot of hot girls in the scene where I live, and I'm pretty selective. Often it's not the barbie doll ice queens that do it for me, but the one with a nice body who reminds me of the girl I had a crush on in high-school. Anyhow, I saw Natasha and had to pounce, which might have attracted some glares from all the girls I'd said "no" to standing right there. She was one of these great sweeties who I suspect is not really into the shark thing. I approached her, she did a bit of seduction, and we found a room by the Kino. It was a total girlfriend experience session. Really, really nice with enthusiastic DFK. I took an hour on the spot, which I suspect helps the ambiance a lot, and was asked for 10 Euros extra for COB. Total damage was 130 Euros, worth every centime or whatever you call them here. I love it when I find *exactly* what I'm looking for!

#3: Anja (POL) : this was a fun way to round out the night. I'd chatted with Anja earlier, at my initiation, and while she suggested a duo with her friend she was very cool (as in reasonable) when I declined on the grounds that I'd just been with two girls. Later on in the night I was at the bar pounding down water (got to stay hydrated) when I realized she was sitting there. I thought she was very cute, and she laid on just the right kind of seduction spiel that I really enjoy so I said what the hell. She again proposed the duo but when I indicated I was just up for one girl. 30 minutes, there was no further pressure. She was a bit upsell-ish but not overbearingly so (anal, CIM, etc.). She asked for 50 Euros for COB, which might have been lower if I'd gone for an hour session. It was a lot of fun, the chemistry was good, and I found her very cute, so while it was a bit pricey at 110 Euros for 30 min with COB I was satisfied. Those who say the price spirals out of control fast with the extras are totally right!

Artimus Epilogue: after Anja it was pushing 2AM, so time to shower, change and hop in cab back to hotel. I have to say I was actually really tired, from combination of punting and jet lag, which prompted me to make the ultimate FKK newbie error: I forgot to take my money from the little locker before returning my key! I realized this just as the taxi pulled up to my hotel, and realized I might never see the approx. 200 Euros left in that little locker. If they gave the key to the next punter, he'd get a little windfall, as it's probably not realistic to expect him to turn it in. Fortunately there was an ATM in front of my hotel and I was able to take out some cash for the taxi ride. I ran up and called Artemis, and fortunately at that late hour the keys and lockers are not really turning over all that fast. The lady at the front desk was very polite and after a couple of calls she had retrieved the money and set it aside for me to pick up the next day. She could very easily have given me a line like "someone else took that key and now I don't see any money" so it seems they are honest enough. Needless to say I felt like a complete idiot. At least there was a happy ending, however.

Great reports (Berlin included) Erase! Polish girls and Argentinian tenderloin have never disappointed me. Maya's got certain limitations in the servicedepartment, but is a very nice and beautiful girl. She gave me outstanding eyecontact, and the illusion of going to kiss my mouth, then she started kissing my neck. She compensates and that's a gameplan I approve. I guess you did notice Anjas bodylanguage before the session. It's worth the 60 Euros in itself. LOL! .

[QUOTE=Erase;1341472]This is a section I cut from a longer post in the Berlin thread. Though it would be more appropriate to post the Artemis reporting here.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed report with useful info and good detail of your sessions. The "you can only fuck one girl of a duo in a half hour session" sounds pretty lame to me. I can see them insisting that you change condoms (which would put me off) but you paid the set amount, you should be able to sample the wares.

As for the money-good you got it back. I am not sure it would have been a lost cause even if someone had used the locker, at least if the next monger was a German national. My experience of Germans is that they are probably the most honest people on earth when it comes to these things. I have had a wallet dropped on a main street returned to me with every cent intact and accounted for. They even have a custom where-by the finder of lost money is entitled (officially of course) to a 10% reward if he / she asks for it.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1341756]Thanks for the detailed report with useful info and good detail of your sessions. The "you can only fuck one girl of a duo in a half hour session" sounds pretty lame to me. I can see them insisting that you change condoms (which would put me off) but you paid the set amount, you should be able to sample the wares.

As for the money-good you got it back. I am not sure it would have been a lost cause even if someone had used the locker, at least if the next monger was a German national. My experience of Germans is that they are probably the most honest people on earth when it comes to these things. I have had a wallet dropped on a main street returned to me with every cent intact and accounted for. They even have a custom where-by the finder of lost money is entitled (officially of course) to a 10% reward if he / she asks for it.

AM[/QUOTE]It happened to me a few days ago when I checked in and was assigned a locker. When I opened the small one by the reception area to store my wallet and watch it was full of the previous punters valuables. I closed the locker and brought it to the attention of the young lady at the reception area and she gave a long sigh and said " oh he forgot to take his things" It seems this is a common occurrence. As I was storing my clothing in my newly assigned locker I noticed one of the staff checking the larger locker that was previously assigned to me to make sure it was empty. I concur with Angus, the staff at Artemis are honest, the girls there are another story.

I am a run of the mill punter so I do not have much to contribute, however, having said that I do feel the quality of young ladies at Royal has done down a bit since my past experiences from 2010 and 2011. Then again it could be a timing thing and I may be hitting Royal at the wrong times.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1341756]Thanks for the detailed report with useful info and good detail of your sessions.[/quote]My pleasure to give something back to the forum.

[quote]The "you can only fuck one girl of a duo in a half hour session" sounds pretty lame to me. I can see them insisting that you change condoms (which would put me off) but you paid the set amount, you should be able to sample the wares.[/quote]Agreed this is quite lame. I have to confess it was pretty satisfying that, in the heat of the moment, her friend wanted to get some and so the "one girl of duo in half hour session" nonsense went out the window (after some plaintive Polish to the effect of "I want to have a go").

[quote]As for the money-good you got it back. I am not sure it would have been a lost cause even if someone had used the locker, at least if the next monger was a German national. My experience of Germans is that they are probably the most honest people on earth when it comes to these things.[/quote]Agreed. In a weird sort of way it added another positive dimension to it all. Here I am, doing something that would be totally illegal where I live, and yet all involved demonstrate this kind of upstanding citizenship.

All the best,

E

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1341675]Great reports (Berlin included) Erase! Polish girls and Argentinian tenderloin have never disappointed me. Maya's got certain limitations in the servicedepartment, but is a very nice and beautiful girl.[/QUOTE]Yeah I quite liked Maja. It's kind of like, in spite of herself (or her efforts to be as mercenary as possible) , she gave a really enjoyable session.

Anja was also a blast. I learned a lot of highly amusing new Polish words for "penis" (Kalashnikov, Anakonda, etc.)

It looks like I'm done with Berlin. I'm hoping my next reviews will be from Katowice!

Cheers,

E

For some reason, or to protect the mattresses, the ladies are required to leave their shoes out of the rooms. For those of us that have heel fetish, its very anti-climatic.

[QUOTE=Boofer;1341998]For some reason, or to protect the mattresses, the ladies are required to leave their shoes out of the rooms. For those of us that have heel fetish, its very anti-climatic.[/QUOTE]Huh? I have never heard of this. Unless it is a new rule within the past two weeks I was in the room with Fatima and she had her shoes on until I took them of while on the bed. I have even had girls try to have sex while keeping their boots on, which I hate.

AM

[QUOTE=Boofer;1341998]For some reason, or to protect the mattresses, the ladies are required to leave their shoes out of the rooms. For those of us that have heel fetish, its very anti-climatic.[/QUOTE]They are not requiried to leave their shoes outside. Some girls do, most of them don't. It's a decision of every single girl by itself.

[QUOTE=Boofer;1341998]For some reason, or to protect the mattresses, the ladies are required to leave their shoes out of the rooms. For those of us that have heel fetish, its very anti-climatic.[/QUOTE]A few weeks ago, a girl got Hausverbot (banned from club) for using one of the tents in the bar area with her high heel shoes on and damaging the bed. Since then the girls are more careful about it, but as Pharisaer said it is not mandatory. I've been with a girl in a room without leaving shoes by the door.

Soon it's time for me to enter Artemis, this forum has been very helpful this far. Here is my last set of questions, would really appreciate answers. .

Do I need to bring extra clothes (work out clothes or swimming pants) in order to be allowed to use the gym or swimming pool?

Can I buy cigarettes inside Artemis?

Do the girls have change with them in case I cannot pay with exact money?

What is the politest way to say "no thank you" to a girl that you don't like?

Finishing a trip to Berlin and I noticed a couple of strange things.

First, on Friday night after I finished a meal featuring some meat in a brown gravy, I see three people standing over two pans of the aforementioned meat trying to decide if they are okay to serve! It was a bit under salted for my taste (an Artemis first) , but what's going on? Did they find a strange object in the pans? Should I be concerned for my health?

The other thing was on Saturday at exactly 3pm ALL of the girls went into the restaurant. For half an hour the lounge was men only. Someone made the comment that Artemis turned into a gay club. At exactly 3:30 all of the girls came out. I half-heartedly tried to find out what was going on in there, but the two girls I talked to moved the conversation elsewhere. I didn't try too hard, but find the whole thing strange. Was this just a boring staff meeting? Did several people get canned? Are the girls trying to unionize? Or perhaps there was a health warning about the meat from last night?

I think some of the rooms in Artemis need some repair I saw that some beds have quite damage during my last visits in this summer.

It was the last day of Venus Messe

A short report from me.

I took the S-bahn to Westkreuz after a short "walk of shame" I entered Artemis.

You know the drill, paid, showered and heading for the bar.

I met some young Polish guys and Italian guys who had visited the Venus and I was their first time at Artemis.

I was sitting with a friend then 2 nice blond German girls Nadja and? Offered me a 3some with lesboshow or my friend can joint for a 4some, I declined. My friend took one of the 2 girls upstairs.

I chatted with many girls and I decided to go with Jara and Tamara, both girls were sweet and nice and provided good service.

I was at ERW before Artemis so I was tired. But I managed 2 nice sessions, the club was not crowded at all unlike Saturday and Friday, so I made a good decision by visiting Artemis on a Sunday, still many nice girls to choose from.

I inspected the new area,

I've borrowed a picture from you AM, I hope you don't mind and I added descriptions of the new facilities to the picture.

All in all a nice revisit with Artemis and the girls. I'm looking forward to spend Spring / Summer time at Artemis when the new pool area open with naked girls around the pool.

Nille

Hi,

After reading this forum and particulary Artemis thread for about half a year, it was about time I booked a flight to Berlin (from Scandinavia) this November. I have some previous mongering experience from Amsterdam only.

Thanks to Angus I should have no trouble finding Artemis and Kamilla Dee which I intend to hit with great excitment. I have never been in an FKK, so I will most likely be announcing in the travel section of my dates, hoping someone might hook up and either share excitment (if newbie as well) or help fend off sharks. (if pro).

I intend to give back to this thread by writing a newbie report after my visit.

I don't intend to overstress myself with remembering names and countries of origin from this board, as I surely won't be able to recognize them on site.

I am thinking for the report, I will ask them name and country of origin then hope for the best in a session.

One thing though. Unless I find someone to go with me, how does one make the time pass in-between sessions when you fly solo? I noticed, bringing a book would be a good idea and perhaps going down a floor to the wellness area to retire. But otherwise I sort of feel it might look somewhat stupid sitting in a bar or a couch alone with a drink (that I need max 15 mins to drink). And I believe it might attract sharks as well.

I would think that this is most likely an issue in the early hours, before club fills up for the evening.

Artemis, a few weeks ago. Too busy in the meantime, but wanted to share and discuss a few things, esp. Since there was a bit of interesting discussion going on about the place here recently.

Anyway, Sunday in Berlin, been travelling around the world with little time for myself in the days and weeks before but finally got a bit of a break and, while still not in the best of shapes, felt the need to catch up on a few things. Original plan was Royal and maybe Liberty later (BTW and FYI I can not really agree on what was mentioned in the Berlin thread, that Sunday is such slow day in Berlin apartments, last time I was there, in the summer, late afternoon, at Royal there were about 10 girls, several of them smoking, and more at Liberty, again, not just quantity). But it was getting too late, I was finally ready at about 7 so there were few options left. So I decided to give the place where I had not been in about two years for several reasons another shot.

Just thrown in here, what you said here recently, place taken over by the silicone valley, way too many brute force attacks, service / attitude problems. All true, but I have actually never perceived the place any differently. That's exactly how it always was (IMHO) , you always had to select very carefully, more so than at other places. I've never been there at a high frequency, but I can not really see any differences. Maybe it was better at some times, if so, I believe I missed that. But I think it has got to do bit a generally with the management (or the lack thereof). I mean it's not hard to educate the girls a bit, in case they are not aware, that the 'hey Schatzi, want to fuck' type of approach is not attractive to many men, and neither proposing a lot of threesomes or other extras when the guy is not even sure whether to go with a girl at all. It works at other places. Probably, also has to with girl selection (again or the lack thereof). I often got the feeling, that if you can show big tits (natural or not) and a half-decent embedding of these, you're in at Artemis. But then again, what do I know, maybe this is the way it's supposed to work there, and maybe attracts some tourist types that Artemis seems to have a lot. Maybe they should just check out their girls a bit more about basic social skills. But, of course, I can imagine, it's not easy to fill such a big place with enough pretty girls, if you don't have reliable supply routes from Romania or other messed up countries, like many other FKKs could possibly have, to put it mildly.

There are also other things I don't like about the place, the pricing, still a joke why this FKK should be more expensive than others of a similar scale and approach, still don't see any reason for it. I still don't like the wellness area, if you want to call it like that. All the things are there, but it has no style whatsoever, but the charm of a Plattenbau. And so forth.

But anyway, I was back, took an extended tour of the facilities, Ok, little has changed, but maybe I had stored it in memory a bit worse than it is. What helped is that it was Sunday and not quite busy. I'm very bad at estimating this, but I guess there were at least 40 girls, probably more, and significantly less mongers.

Yeah, as usual, initially had to fend off a lot of girls who thought I was an easy target, and, as usual, for Artemis at least, not all of them took the rejection well. Some cursing, one girl said, at a volume so that half of the main bar could hear it, that I had just missed out on the 'sex of my life'. Ok, I don't think it will cause me sleepless nights. One girl came with such a brute force that I couldn't help but laughing, and took this not for what it was.

But after a while things calmed down a bit and I was seriously looking for a session. Good thing when you've been away for long, I didn't really recognize anybody. A few girls looked familiar, probably from other FKKs, but not too many. But I could not recall anyone I ever sessioned with. But nevertheless had some trouble finding a girl initially since my spoilt mind didn't really spot too many of elevated interest. So I was relaxing for a long time in the main bar.

Somehow I got into a discussion at the main bar with German (Hamburg) Elena mainly about other FKKs. I didn't fancy her all that much either but she was nice, decent and a reasonable conversation so that, while I knew exactly where this was going, didn't mind when she smoothly adjusted the subject and her handles more and more towards the boy-girl issue after a while. Description: moderately long brown hair, size 36-38, natural large be cup, mid to end 20s. To the room we went. She gave me a PSE, BBBJ and cowgirl variants, not that I asked for it, but that was her style, apparently, and I let her. Kissing she avoided, but rather dirty words. She did it reasonably well, and, since I was loaded, I didn't last too long. But overall, while not much room to complain about the mechanics, just a little bit too professional for my taste. You could easily spot that she is a pro with years of experience. Some talking / massage after, she didn't try to cut the time short. Ok round (she offered the usual extras, but I took just std 30mins without as I almost always do with new girls in FKKs if they are not outstanding) , but nothing special, repeat unlikely. She also asked for a tip after, LOL.

Used the wellness extensively after, overheard some strange conversation between mongers in the sauna. More mongers should read forums occasionally to educate themselves a bit. Most other mongers that evening seemed to be either elderly locals (probably pensioner day) or from other continents. Met a regular from NRW, but he was a bit full of himself.

Then came the interesting part of the night. I was looking for another short-term companion and cancelled a few options due to questionable approach or her being too busy talking to her friend (s). I got more and more intrigued by a girl who was standing or walking around alone, but mostly was standing near the exit of the main bar. I already noticed her earlier, but the more I was looking at her the more I realized how beautiful she was. Perfect size 36 body, pronounced curves but not too much on any part of the body. Beautiful tanned face and hair, reddish-brunette, moderately long. The hair colours were just as fake as the boobs, but both were extremely well made, she probably spent a lot of money on that. Perfect, almost naturally looking Cs that fitted extremely well with the rest of the body. She also wore beautiful lingerie around her waist and legs.

Name is Ruby from 'Transsilvania'. She's very old (her words) , meaning 23. But it was not that easy to find out, since she differed distinctively from the whole attack crew there in that she didn't approach any men, not at that time at least. She later told me that it was not her style, she waited for men to come to her. Funny at Artemis, but apparently works well enough for her. I also didn't see her talking to any other girl. Not realizing what was needed at first and because FKK makes you lazy I first tried the eye contact thing extensively with no effect, not even when she walked right besides me and I gave her my best possible smile. And disappeared right after. But that just made me even more curious. So you had to do it the old-fashioned way, I chased her for a bit, finally got to talk to her, and knew within 10 seconds that she would be a real blast. And I was right, of course. Some women simply have such an attractive 'female' way. Voice and words, gestures, body language, hard to describe. We chatted for a few minutes (her English is acceptable, not great, German a bit worse) , and, sure enough, went to the room. We spent one hour (no extras). She did almost all you could possibly ask for, and, again, in an extremely attractive way. Only thing was that, while she kisses with tongue, it was not really deep or long, but she did it in such way, where she would kiss you like that first, and then spread out all over your face that it was no downturn at all. Also she moaned a lot, well basically all the time, when she could, but not in a loud, distracting way. BBBJ, DATY, multiple positions, bla bla. She told me it's her philosophy to give a man the maximum possible pleasure, if he's nice, and surely she did. If I recall correctly, might be wrong, she didn't ask for any extras, so don't know about that. She also didn't ask for the hour, I proposed that to her after a while.

I could have spent a lot more time with her. But I had already fallen in love a little bit at that point and needed to exercise some restraint. Some more conversation in the end. If you're interested, and from Italy, you need to be a bit cautious, she doesn't have the very best impression of that monger nationality, to put it mildly. I tried to put a few things into perspective, but with little effect.

After that I went around for a bit, considering another session, but I knew it would be quite hard to find an adequate follow-up session to the previous experience at this place. Also, I was still suffering from jetlag and multiple other causes of exhaustion, so after a while decided to call it a day and left before midnight. Might have to do a lot with the latter girl but, overall, yes the place still has its very visible deficiencies, but maybe I was a bit too hard on it. Unless things change significantly, I will never be a regular there, but will probably not take two years until my next visit. If I was in other areas of the country more frequently I would still give it a total miss, but in Berlin it is an option, although probably not the premium one. It was way more relaxing than I had in memory. It was also much better than I remembered at the main bar, because spaces were plenty and the music was good. I didn't try the food.

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin;1342133]Do I need to bring extra clothes (work out clothes or swimming pants) in order to be allowed to use the gym or swimming pool?[/quote]No swimming pants needed. You swim naked. But it's a good idea to bring your own workout clothes to use the gym. It looks quite funny, a man doing his workout in a bathrobe.

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin;1342133]Can I buy cigarettes inside Artemis?[/quote]Yes. There's a vending machine.

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin;1342133]Do the girls have change with them in case I cannot pay with exact money?[/quote]Usually yes. If not (maybe because lack of change) , the cashier at the front desk will assist you and / or her.

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin;1342133]What is the politest way to say "no thank you" to a girl that you don't like?[/QUOTE]"No, thank you!" is the most honest way, in case you tell it polite with a smile on your face to her.

Good report. As they say in life, the best punts are the ones you don't do.

At least the girls have style here, I noticed several using the same one-liner after several seconds of saying hello: "lets be spontaneous babe and go into the room"

LOL.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux;1342372]Some cursing, one girl said, at a volume so that half of the main bar could hear it, that I had just missed out on the 'sex of my life'. Ok, I don't think it will cause me sleepless nights. One girl came with such a brute force that I couldn't help but laughing, and took this not for what it was.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kanta123; 1342319]Hi,

One thing though. Unless I find someone to go with me, how does one make the time pass in-between sessions when you fly solo? I noticed, bringing a book would be a good idea and perhaps going down a floor to the wellness area to retire. But otherwise I sort of feel it might look somewhat stupid sitting in a bar or a couch alone with a drink (that I need max 15 mins to drink). And I believe it might attract sharks as well.

I would think that this is most likely an issue in the early hours, before club fills up for the evening.[/QUOTE]Relax! LOL.

Nobody is going to think you are stupid for lying around alone, and if someone do think this, who gives a sxxx anyways.

I've been in artemis alone many times and I always enjoyed it. You can have food, listen to music while lying on a sofa, go in the wellness and have a sauna, a massage, sleep a bit, watch tv.

If you really need a break get a taxi and go eat something outside, and then go back.

Theres always other people alone in the club. Really no issue.

Have fun.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin;1342133]What is the politest way to say "no thank you" to a girl that you don't like?[/QUOTE]There was one guy who posted here saying he would pretend to be French and understand nothing but French. That's going way too far!

If you find a girl too pushy, the absolute best way is to invite her for a coffee. If she is what you think she is, then she will vanish before you reach the end of the sentence. If not, and she accepts your invitation, who knows, maybe you have been blind to the blossoming bosomy gift coming your way!

And if you really can't imagine zimmering her under any circumstances, then you can always fall back on the polite formula,"I'm sorry, but I promised my wife I come here for the health facilities only."

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux;1342372]Some women simply have such an attractive 'female' way. Voice and words, gestures, body language, hard to describe.[/QUOTE]Great report, Neutron. Interesting how the most objective posts on Artemis come from guys who are experienced FKKers but just passing through the city.

I am always happy to give Ruby the Heart Stealer a spin. She does not wear the gang tattoo. See earlier reports.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1342426]Relax! LOL.

Nobody is going to think you are stupid for lying around alone, and if someone do think this, who gives a sxxx anyways.

I've been in artemis alone many times and I always enjoyed it. You can have food, listen to music while lying on a sofa, go in the wellness and have a sauna, a massage, sleep a bit, watch tv.

If you really need a break get a taxi and go eat something outside, and then go back.

Theres always other people alone in the club. Really no issue.

Have fun.

Kimino[/QUOTE]But there will also be a steady stream of willing young ladies stopping by to keep you company!

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1342031]They are not requiried to leave their shoes outside. Some girls do, most of them don't. It's a decision of every single girl by itself.[/QUOTE]My last session of my visit was with Cindy from Poland. As she kicked off her shoes outside of the room she laughed at how ridiculous it was that mgmt made the girls take off their shoes before getting into the room. Perhaps some of the girls don't follow this rule, but it seems to be there.

[QUOTE=The Cane;1342465]But there will also be a steady stream of willing young ladies stopping by to keep you company![/QUOTE]A real nightmare! LOL

[QUOTE=Kimino;1342702]A real nightmare! LOL[/QUOTE]I think I will survive that part. Barely.

Dear all,

Just want to thank all those who post here. I was in Berlin a couple weeks ago.

The List.

Before my trip I researched this forum and compiled a list of Artemis girls to avoid, which I memorized right before heading off to Artemis. On hindsight I think this was a very useful thing to do because it seems to me more and more difficult to meet the right girls (for me, this means blonde, small figure, GFE-types) there.

Prologue.

It was Monday the day after the Venus messe. Things were very slow but I was fortunate to meet Katarina who provided a wonderful GFE session.

Verification.

Later as I was sitting on the couch in the main bar (the leftmost couch where you can get ambushed from over the side railing by the girls) , this blonde with a nice smile came up to me. Her name was Nella, and as it happens, hers was one of the names on the shit list. However she was smiling very sweetly and also, because I have a weakness for blondes, I took a chance and went upstairs with her. Within 5 minutes of being in the room I knew my information was accurate and I was about to get screwed over. Nella's mode of operation is to get you to cum as quickly as possible while she does as little as possible. Before 10 minutes was up I told her 'Let's just go', and she had the gall to say 'That's a good idea'! I've never been swindled like this before but it was a worthwhile and enligthening experience. A short while later I was in the Kino and Nella came in looking for more victims. When she saw it was me she gave a dirty look and left.

Epilogue.

Two days later I was at Artemis again, and Nella tried to hit on me, completely forgetting who I was! I looked at her without a word, then turned and walked away.

PS: Isabelle tried several times to get me to go with her, but she was also on the list (actually the name on my list was 'Isabella', but I assume Isabelle is Isabella). This time I took no chances and just told her no.

I was wondering if anybody has a recent version of the Shit List, aka, the girls to avoid at Artemis. Also, is it true that the owner personnally kicked out a couple of Hungarian girls last Sunday morning and that there is now a feedback list about the girl's services given to the clients? I was at Artemis last Saturday and didn't receive such a form.

Thanks and cheers.

[QUOTE=GabyMaximus; 1343116]I was wondering if anybody has a recent version of the Shit List, aka, the girls to avoid at Artemis. Also, is it true that the owner personnally kicked out a couple of Hungarian girls last Sunday morning and that there is now a feedback list about the girl's services given to the clients? I was at Artemis last Saturday and didn't receive such a form.

Thanks and cheers.[/QUOTE]I really do not support sharing the list here in the open forum where anyone (including girls who happen to by) can read. EF did his homework. He went back in the forum and noted names that appear time and again and made his list. IF he cares to share it with you via pm great. I really hope that he does not do so in the open forum. This is bad form IMO.

There has always been customer feedback forms at the front by the desk. That is if you are unhappy and don't have the balls to tell the front desk openly you can fill one out. Personally if I was really unhappy I would just mention it to the women at the desk when I leave.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1343363]I really do not support sharing the list here in the open forum where anyone (including girls who happen to by) can read. EF did his homework. He went back in the forum and noted names that appear time and again and made his list. IF he cares to share it with you via pm great. I really hope that he does not do so in the open forum. This is bad form IMO.

There has always been customer feedback forms at the front by the desk. That is if you are unhappy and don't have the balls to tell the front desk openly you can fill one out. Personally if I was really unhappy I would just mention it to the women at the desk when I leave.

AM[/QUOTE]If there are bad providers and scammers and the such, then I believe they should be exposed right here so that everybody can be aware of who to avoid, like the "Egyptian" at Palace for example. And who cares if they see it here or not? In fact, I hope they do so they will know we're on to their bullshit and won't take it anymore!

This is a place for sharing information, and I believe this is exactly some of the kind of info that should get wide distribution. And how many times have we read how going to the front desk accomplishes little or nothing? Just a shrug of the shoulders and carry-on as usual! No, there should be regular reporting on subpar providers who should be exposed right here for all to see. After that, you can't say you weren't warned.

The front desk sure isn't going to tell you avoid this one or that one because she's no good! Also, past experience clearly shows the management is unlikely to get rid of the her. So, the best thing we can do is help each other out by shining a bright spotlight on all the rip off artists. Freeze them out by steering our business elsewhere.

I agree with Cane, a little heads up is always a good thing! But the information has to be accurate and that's something I'm personally very bad at (I never listen when they say their names).

"A man has a brain and a penis, but only enough blood to use one at a time"

[QUOTE=EtrnalFeminine; 1343064]The List.

Before my trip I researched this forum and compiled a list of Artemis girls to avoid,

Verification.

Later as I was sitting on the couch in the main bar (the leftmost couch where you can get ambushed from over the side railing by the girls) , this blonde with a nice smile came up to me. Her name was Nella, and as it happens, hers was one of the names on the shit list.[/QUOTE]How's that sample size of 1 workin' out for ya?

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1343416]If there are bad providers and scammers and the such, then I believe they should be exposed right here so that everybody can be aware of who to avoid, like the "Egyptian" at Palace for example. And who cares if they see it here or not? In fact, I hope they do so they will know we're on to their bullshit and won't take it anymore!

This is a place for sharing information, and I believe this is exactly some of the kind of info that should get wide distribution. And how many times have we read how going to the front desk accomplishes little or nothing? Just a shrug of the shoulders and carry-on as usual! No, there should be regular reporting on subpar providers who should be exposed right here for all to see. After that, you can't say you weren't warned.

The front desk sure isn't going to tell you avoid this one or that one because she's no good! Also, past experience clearly shows the management is unlikely to get rid of the her. So, the best thing we can do is help each other out by shining a bright spotlight on all the rip off artists. Freeze them out by steering our business elsewhere.[/QUOTE]The info is all here. All one has to do is a little bit of home work-that is a little more effort than a single post asking for info. If mongers did not fill the space up with such arguments as this it would be a whole lot easier to access. Yes the function of this board is to share information. It has been shared. Reiterating it in the form of a "shit list" is simply not needed.

[QUOTE=Norwegian90]I agree with The Cane here. I think that we should not feel ashamed of mentioning names of really bad providers.[/QUOTE]

Again, please read what I am saying. I have no problem with someone writing a report that includes the names of providers that gave bad service. It is the "shit list" idea that bothers me

I am neither the owner nor the mod of the board. This is just my opinion.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1343542]The info is all here. All one has to do is a little bit of home work-that is a little more effort than a single post asking for info. If mongers did not fill the space up with such arguments as this it would be a whole lot easier to access. Yes the function of this board is to share information. It has been shared. Reiterating it in the form of a "shit list" is simply not needed.

I am neither the owner nor the mod of the board. This is just my opinion.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks AM, I appreciate your feedback. Personnally, I would love to have this list in 1 post and have it regularly updated, just because I don't have as much time / interest to spend on the forum. But, that's just my opinion, I think I have a lot less experience in FKK than you do.

Cheers,

GM

I agree with The Cane here. I think that we should not feel ashamed of mentioning names of really bad providers. Before my virgin trip to the Palace I did a lot of reading on this forum. And I found out, after reading a post mentioning this fake egyptian girl, that she was a shark. So I was prepared, and it was not hard to find out who she was. I had no intentions of going with her at all. Belive me she tried to convince me, she even gave me a bitchslap when I said no". I was not rude to her at all. After this episode, she don't even bother asking me for a session. I am sure that I couldve reported her to the management but I had such a good time with the other girls that I forgot the whole episode.

Norwegan90

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1343542]It is the "shit list" idea that bothers me.

I am neither the owner nor the mod of the board. This is just my opinion.

AM[/QUOTE]I totally agree, but some people need a manual for everything. The idea of a black list of any kind, disgusts me. But apart from this, the first things that come to my mind are:

- who will be "entitled" to edit the list?

- what will be the threshold for entering the list?

- how can someone know if the sharky attitude is shown to everybody, or just to some groups of people. Italians, fatties, balds, vogons.

On the other side, searching the forum for this kind of stuff is not easy and efficient, IMO. A better solution would be to have an nth thread where people could post reports on bad experiences with girls. That way, the ones the feel the need for it, could read the Alert Reports before hitting the club.

My2cents.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1343603]A better solution would be to have an nth thread where people could post reports on bad experiences with girls. That way, the ones the feel the need for it, could read the Alert Reports before hitting the club.

My2cents.

Kimino[/QUOTE]I would have to agree with Kimino on this one. I mean who are really to judge which girl should be on a 'shitlist'? Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, and one girl who provides terrible service to me, can be a true GFE with Kimono, or vice versa. Actually the French forum Youppie. Net has a great solution. Each club thread has a subthread about each girl reported, where experiences can be shared by multiple persons, either negative or positive. Why not have something similar here? Everybody is entitled to have a personal shitlist. Personally I don't care so much for these kind of lists, as I get a sufficient good / negative vibe when I meet the girl.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1343603]On the other side, searching the forum for this kind of stuff is not easy and efficient, IMO. A better solution would be to have an nth thread where people could post reports on bad experiences with girls. That way, the ones the feel the need for it, could read the Alert Reports before hitting the club.

Kimino[/QUOTE]In the sense that there are thousands and thousands of posts here! So, to say that the info is already here really misses the boat. Sometimes the info needs to summarized every now and then, even for regular readers. And of course, in the end everybody has to exercise their own judgment about what to do. I mean, many people talk bad about Gina at Palace, but I like her and we get along just fine. And then again, almost everybody chooses to be wary of "the Egyptian". Many have warned against poor Romanian performers, but I LOVE me some Romies! It's not a manual that I'm looking for. That would take all the fun out of it! But, I am interested in knowing about the impressions of others because that helps me to prepare myself for what I might expect. In the end, it's up to me how I choose to react and handle a situation, but I want as much info as I can get going into it, including the names of alleged poor performers and the crooked scams they play.

[QUOTE=Norwegian90; 1343549]Belive me she tried to convince me, she even gave me a bitchslap when I said no".

Norwegan90[/QUOTE]Sorry. But it seems I didn't get it. You mean you were slapped on your face when you said NO to a girl? Can something like this happen in any FKK club?

[QUOTE=Scott79;1343704]Sorry. But it seems I didn't get it. You mean you were slapped on your face when you said NO to a girl? Can something like this happen in any FKK club?[/QUOTE]I doubt he means literal bitchslap as in physical violence (could I be wrong?)

This can also be used as a verbal dressing down of a person. Still and all.

AM

[QUOTE=Scott79;1343704]Sorry. But it seems I didn't get it. You mean you were slapped on your face when you said NO to a girl? Can something like this happen in any FKK club?[/QUOTE]This happened to me at Oase a few days ago, but she did it with a smile, so I didn't reflect much about the incident.

[QUOTE=The Cane;1343656]In the sense that there are thousands and thousands of posts here! So, to say that the info is already here really misses the boat.[/QUOTE]Yes! Add to this that the reports are drowned in a multitude of comments, chats, info requests and messages that are not actual reports on girls (and I'm the first to be blamed for this). The result is that the only way to gather this sort of info, or any kind of info actually, is to go through a couple of months of reports, at least, and copy / paste the interesting parts somewhere.

The lounge area was the place where to keep all the chat but being not club-related the main topics are winter tyres and car rentals if I remember correctly. LOL.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Scott79;1343704]Sorry. But it seems I didn't get it. You mean you were slapped on your face when you said NO to a girl? Can something like this happen in any FKK club?[/QUOTE]Actually its true. She was sitting in my lap kissing me, and trying to convince me to go with her. I didn't touch her at all. Because I didn't find her attractive and knew that I shouldn't touch girls without having a session with them. So I just said I wasnt ready or something. I had no interest sessioning with her what so ever. This because of the bad reports, written her on ISG. She got of my lap and said something like " you are a bad boy " and slapped me. Probably because she spent a couple of minutes of her valuable time. I forgot to mention that it wasnt a powerful "slap" at all. It didn't hurt. Although I got kind of suprised that she could do that. And I remember that I mentioned this to other girls. And they said she had attitude problems. She was known for that. As I said I could probably reported her to the management, but as this ocurred on my first trip to any FKK I was so busy looking at the girls that I just forgot it. Even though I had this bad experience with the egyptian" girl, it didn't ruin my impression hehe. I had so much fun. And thank god that I didn't session with this fake egyptian!

Norwegian 90

[QUOTE=Scott79;1343704]Sorry. But it seems I didn't get it. You mean you were slapped on your face when you said NO to a girl? Can something like this happen in any FKK club?[/QUOTE]Actually its true. She was sitting in my lap kissing me, and trying to convince me to go with her. I didn't touch her at all. Because I didn't find her attractive and knew that I shouldn't touch girls without having a session with them. So I just said I wasnt ready or something. I had no interest sessioning with her what so ever. This because of the bad reports, written her on ISG. She got of my lap and said something like " you are a bad boy " and slapped me. Probably because she spent a couple of minutes of her valuable time. I forgot to mention that it wasnt a powerful "slap" at all. It didn't hurt. Although I got kind of suprised that she could do that. And I remember that I mentioned this to other girls. And they said she had attitude problems. She was known for that. As I said I could probably reported her to the management, but as this ocurred on my first trip to any FKK I was so busy looking at the girls that I just forgot it. Even though I had this bad experience with the egyptian" girl, it didn't ruin my impression hehe. I had so much fun. And thank god that I didn't session with this fake egyptian!

Norwegian 90

Guys,

With all the information freely available on this forum, anyone can compile their own list. For someone like me who only gets to visit Berlin once a year, and only for a week or two at that, it was important for me to avoid any unpleasant encounters if possible. That's why I did my homework.

But that was not the point of my post. I was trying to point out that the information on this forum proved both accurate and valuable, at least in my situation. Consider that the first girl I went with whom I knew beforehand had bad reports written about her ended up screwing me over within 5 minutes of entering the room, well, that tells me that my information was pretty damn reliable.

Oh, and the other purpose of my post was to give Nella the proverbial third finger.

Next time I encounter something like this I will take Angus' advice and make a scene at the front desk.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1343603]I totally agree, but some people need a manual for everything. The idea of a black list of any kind, disgusts me. But apart from this, the first things that come to my mind are:

- who will be "entitled" to edit the list?

- what will be the threshold for entering the list?

- how can someone know if the sharky attitude is shown to everybody, or just to some groups of people. Italians, fatties, balds, vogons.

On the other side, searching the forum for this kind of stuff is not easy and efficient, IMO. A better solution would be to have an nth thread where people could post reports on bad experiences with girls. That way, the ones the feel the need for it, could read the Alert Reports before hitting the club.

My2cents.

Kimino[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=The Cane;1343416]And how many times have we read how going to the front desk accomplishes little or nothing? Just a shrug of the shoulders and carry-on as usual![/QUOTE]True, this is what gets people's backs up, and makes them suggest extreme solutions like a blacklist of girls.

But the best insurance against bad treatment is to chat to the girl for a few minutes before agreeing to anything. Admittedly once you start doing this, you realize that the selection is much less than it seems. There is a large contingent of girls who only target tourists, people they can fleece.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1343808]I doubt he means literal bitchslap as in physical violence (could I be wrong?)[/QUOTE]It was physical slap though not strong. Oh my God! It will be my first time in FKK and it's clear I'm tourist so I will be targetted by such kind of sharks. I should be prepared for such surprises. If FKK girls do this then I should expect a kick to my balls in the RLD. LOL

Well, I can understand why it raises red flags to some, but actually it's not a big deal. Lists of girls with certain attributes are posted all the time.

But I perfectly agree that a separation of posts with actual reports from discussion and chatter posts into different threads would be of even greater value and serve a great deal when someone wants to have fast access to relevant info. Many people do not have the time to read 200 forum pages on a single place. That's about the size of a Tolkien book or even more. That's not only for Artemis but also for other large threads.

Of course, in the end you always have to put positive and negative comments into perspective and make up your own mind and not take anonymous posts on the web as the final answer. But it's like that with every service or item you choose to buy.

This was my second time going solo and I was a bit anxious but as soon as I entered the premises (approximately 23. 00) the place was packed and I was no longer feeling worried! And when I left at 03. 00 I felt that if there would be a next time I'd better bring more cash!

Mika. Blitzkrieg.

I enter the main bar and park my derriere on a chair by the middle of the bar and as I receive the orange juice I've just requested a hot hot girl with big boobs is standing right next to me (new personal record for me 3min). A fairly tall 23 year old german girl with tattoos along her both arms and she had a pierced nipple (right one I believe). Normally I never take the first girl that offers me sex but as I was so ready to go I could have gone with an artemis cleaning lady LOL! She said I could suck / play with her boobs but if I wanted to fuck them or cum on them I had to pay extra. We went upstairs but had to wait by the couches as there was a queue. While waiting we chatted for a while and some girl was hollering to mika from downstairs asking for a ménage a trois but I declined. In the room I started to suck on her nipples for a while before she put on a condom and started sucking me off. Seeing that pretty face sucking my cock reassured me that I had made a wise choice, not that I'm picky when I pick the first girl to bang but it's always a plus. I start fucking her doggy intensely for a while then she says my dick is too long so then we do mish then she adds more lube and tells me after 10min of fucking "I want you to make big orgasm ja" so I let her get on top since she's so eager to get me off and before you know it ich kommen!

Mission accomplished. 60€ for the hottest face Artemis had to offer.

Blair. Big Butt Goddess.

After hanging about in the wellness area for 1h "the hunt is on" mode was initiated. I go up the stairs to the middle railing and notice a blond with the most perfect ass I've ever seen naked IRL (the type of ass you see on pornos only, or perhaps the beaches of Rio.) Normally I never hang around the railing because I always found it to be "weird" but I couldn't let this girl slip away! I stood there for a good 20-30min and fended off shark attacks (note to self, never stand there for too long without a wingman). Finally she was done with her guy and proceeded downstairs to collect her cash and wash-up! I didn't want to grab her immediately so I let her enter the bar area and as the continued straight ahead I turned right at the bar and needed only to wait 5min before she was walking my way with Mika! So I grabbed Blair by her hand as she passed me by and she was a little startled but I cut straight to the chase and said "I want you" she tried to sell me a ménage a trois with Mika and I smiled and told her that I've already been with Mika, and it didn't sink in until Mika corroborated my story. Mika told Blair something in german and Blair said "ok" so up the stairs we went and this time there was no queue. Following her plump rump down the hallway to the room was heaven. As soon as we entered the room I became one with her ass for a few minutes before I got to fuck her doggy. Holy shit, grabbing her thighs / hips while fucking her hard I kind of got into trance and she said "hey! Gentle sweetie" I said "oops sorry" switched to cowgirl, seeing that ass go up and down I was lost for words. And just like her friend Mika, Blair was now asking me "how many girls have you fucked today?" as she seemed eager for me to finish up, so she added more lube and we did mish and I came. Afterwards she said "you fuck like a bunny". So this happy bunny gladly paid 60€ and hopped off!

I got the feeling that if I had taken 1h she'd be less pushy but I'm not going to pay for 1h and only cum once. So now I'm resting by the lockers and wondering whether or not I should bang another girl and I decided that I had to otherwise I'd just obsess even more over miss fat booty.

Holly. Don't judge a book by its cover.

Tanned girl with red hair down to her curvy ass and a nice pair of tits! I spotted her by the entrance to the main bar and I was afraid to approach her because she seemed like she would be a complete be*tch but boy was I wrong! Anyways, as I was sitting by the sofas to the right (when entering the main bar area) I noticed that I had a nice diagonal view over the entrance to the main bar. I was studying Holly and trying to establish eye contact but no success! She sat on the round furniture thing to the left of me and I still didn't have the balls to approach her and some guy sits down right next to her and I thought fuck (mental face palm) but they chatted for a short while and she left. She then approached a group of 3-4 german youngsters along with 2 other girls but neither girl succeeded in persuading the boys to head upstairs. Holly was now sitting on the same couch as me but there was a gap between us so I thought "he who dares" and before you know it we're sitting upstairs waiting for a room to be available and spend 10min chatting in what can only be described as a meeting of two equal souls. For a while it felt like we were on a date but then "ziiiiiiiiiiiiiimmmmeeer" is uttered by a girl and reality hits you, its artemis! Amazing sex was to be followed and I'the like to think that it was all due to the fact that we got along so well while chatting. I'm glad I decided to do one more session. Another 60€ well spent.

Holly told me she usually comes to artemis on wednesdays and rarely does weekends because of the queue situation but she was glad that we clicked so well as others could sit there in silence for 10min like old married couples!

Closing thoughts:

Artemis needs to get more rooms and they should seriously fix the beds in the rooms! Some of them look like Jason Voorhees went bananas.

[QUOTE=DasBooty; 1344699]Mika. Blitzkrieg.

She said I could suck / play with her boobs but if I wanted to fuck them or cum on them I had to pay extra.[/QUOTE]Terrible but I heard these rumors not for the first time.

Her name is Nika. The big boobs are new and her nose also.

Interesting session with Carmen. She is tall with a beautiful face and dark gypsy eyes. She's a Romanian who sometimes pretends to be an Israeli or something even more exotic. On the sofa in the bar area, she promised me her specialty: the most amazing blowjob ever!

In the room, this came with a bit of upsell: she wanted me to cum in her mouth and get the extra 50 euros. Right away she gave me her silkiest BJ, but though I got insanely aroused, somehow I couldn't cum. So I told her to lie down and kissed all of her body. When I got near her groin area, she started to shiver and groan. I couldn't resist. I pulled her round and started humping like a madman doggy-style. She told me to hold back and only cum in her mouth. I asked her to turn around again and she eyed my dick hungrily but I wanted missionary first and went for the target. As I pumped up and down, I felt her beginning to grind reflexively, her pussy contracting around my dick."No, don't squeeze!" I warned."Wha-a-a-t?" "Stop squeezing, stop squeezing, oh my God, I'm close to cumming!" It was way too tight. Now she suddenly understood what I meant and cried out,"No! No! No!" and squirmed under me in protest. Of course this only made it worse. I saw the beautiful agonized expression on her face under me, and yelled "Aaaghh!" Too late. She burst out "Liar!" but actually I think it was just a situation where neither of us could help it. She was smiling afterwards anyway.

Damage: €60.

Hi, somebody knows the name of this girl :

Big breasts.

Long nails.

Black long hairs.

She "close the eyes" during session.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=DasBooty; 1344699]Mika. Blitzkrieg.

In the room I started to suck on her nipples for a while before she put on a condom and started sucking me off.[/QUOTE]Ciao DasBooty, thanks for the report.

Was it your choice to have a condom on for BJ or her?

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1345334]Ciao DasBooty, thanks for the report.

Was it your choice to have a condom on for BJ or her?

Kimino[/QUOTE]Glad you liked it!

She actually assumed that I wanted a BBBJ as she used a wet wipe on my willy but I told her I wanted a CBJ.

[QUOTE=Eddo7; 1345332]Big breasts.

Long nails.

Black long hairs.

She "close the eyes" during session.[/QUOTE]Honestly I think you are going to have to do a bit better that the above description if you expect any help. This could be any number of girls.

AM

Visit to Artemis 31-10-12.

I arrived in Berlin for a visit of a few days. On previous visits I have headed for Artemis first.

On this occasion I heeded the comments on this forum that Wednesday to Saturday were better nights to visit because the number and choice of girls was better on these nights. For me it became a choice between Wednesday or Thursday. I choose Wednesday.

I travelled via Westkreutz Banhof and the Artemis trail from there to the front door of Artemis.

The lady at the reception desk took the money and gave me keys and a robe. In addition she very kindly changed some large denomination notes into smaller denominations, the easier to pay the girls with. In my haste I stuffed these into my shirt pocket along with some other things.

I arrived after 16. 00 hours and intended to take it easy until after 18. 00 hours.

I was disappointed to find that the new extension was not complete. It appears that it will be of a significant size. This can bee seen on a well known earth view.

I spent some of the time in the down stairs Kino. Here I received numerous offers to session all of which I declined.

After 18. 00hrs I was in the kino off the main bar. I did not find it easy to watch the films here because of the noise from the bar. After a while a Spanish girl came in. She was good looking, curvy sexy and persuasive. We went to a room. There was no waiting at this time. In the room there was no connection and the session was a failure. I cannot blame the girl for this.

Sometime later in the down stairs Kino. A girl came in who I had spoken to previously. I had told her that I would not be ready until later. She asked me if I was ready this time, and I was. She sat beside me and soon a connection was made, I felt positive about this. She offered to start with a blow job in the Kino and soon she had worked me up to a state of complete readiness. After 5 minutes of this we transferred to a near by room. There I engaged in an energetic and noisy session.

The girl was not the best looking in the place but she was sexy and willing. After completion she said 'crazy fuck' and I said ' yeh fucking crazy'.

Sometime later in the down stairs Kino. A girl came in who said she was from an eastern country.

I thought I felt ready so I went to a room with her. This session was not a failure but was not any thing to write home about either, it was quite mediocre.

After three sessions the score was 1. 5 out 3. A 50% success rate. This is less than I have achieved before at Artemis.

I was not sure about Wednesday night at Artemis despite what is said on this thread. There was more girls than I had seen before and many of them were good looking and sexy. Most of them stood or sat about with no one talking to them. I wondered if there was a stand off going on. They were dressed in under wear. I had forgotten that this happened on Wednesday and I found it disappointing. On previous visits I loved to see them around the bar naked. There was a group of swarthy individuals in the main bar with one central figure. Every time I passed this group appeared to be larger. At the downstairs bar I was gazing at the TV when a swarthy individual dressed in a towel went behind the bar and finding the remote control proceeded to change the channels. I thought that this demonstrated a lack of common courtesy.

One of the soft seats adjacent to the upstairs Kino had two splits in it. This is a sign that the fabric of the establishment is wearing out and calls into question the standard of maintenance that is being achieved.

I had intended to stay longer but by this time there were things on my mind, and I did not feel comfortable being there, and I felt that I should return another time.

On this visit to Berlin the best session was at Royal (as reported).

Next time I visit Artemis I will choose a day when the girls will be naked, and girls out number men, and when there is not queuing for the rooms, and when the extension is complete. I do not think I would like to be there when it is crowded.

[QUOTE=Eddo7; 1345332]Hi, somebody knows the name of this girl :

Big breasts.

Long nails.

Black long hairs.

She "close the eyes" during session.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Maybe german Tina?

But I don't know if she closes her eyes during session.

Saturday visit Artemis 3-11-2012.

Arrived at Artemis at 11PM with easy access from Tegel. Taxi driver was a bit surprised about my destination since I had no bags. Paid the 80 euros entrance fee and was actually aroused by the girl at frontdesk with black hair. Proposed a session to her but replied that the girls were inside. Insisted and told her that all women have a price, what was hers? She laughed, said something to me in German that couldn't understand. Anyways, put my valuables in the locker and took off my clothes, took a shower. The line up was very good, with many young beautiful girls. In total, I went to the rooms, with 3 girls but cannot remember the names. I will describe them to you and hope someone can put a name on the numbers.

GIRL 1: black long hair, german. 2 huge tattoos on each arm and back.

I approached this angel face tall girl. She was with a friend but declined the threesome offer. Went to the room and got a regular session with BBJ, multiple position sex and cum in mouth. She was a bit mechanical but overall grade: 7/10. Paid her 130 euros for 45 min session.

GIRL 2: short dark long hair, Romanian, small boobs.

This girl was waiting next to the stairs, she looks like a cat and very young appearing, probably early twenties. I asked for anal and told me she would see in the room. We had a nice 1 hour session, sex in multiple position, anal, cum on body first time and normal cumming second time. During the relaxation time, asked her if I could do a line of coke on her breasts. She became hysterical that this was illegal and not part of the service. I offered her a green euro note if she kept her mouth shut, and strangely enough, she started laughing and relaxing. At the end, she asked if I wanted to become a regular client of her (with private telephone number) , but I declined the offer. Grade: 8. 5/10. Paid 350 euros for 1h10 min session.

GIRL 3: tall silicone boobs german

I was approached by this tall german girl, I just remember that she has piercing in both her nipples. She offered all sorts of incredible service, but after reading the posts in this forum I was reluctant to go with her. I made up my mind not to do her, but she wouldn't leave me alone. Finally, when she asked me what I do for living, I told her this famous line from a movie: "I am into murders and executions". And she left.

GIRL 4: Red hair, crooked teethes, german, silicone.

It was late and picked up the first girl I could find next to me at the bar. She turned out to be an fantastic session, She tried to control at the beginning, but she saw that I was not the tourist type client, she really gave it all in. We did a 45 min session, with all included (anal, multiple positions, cum in mouth, slapping). She was not the most beautiful in the club, but probably the best sex of the 3 girls. Grade: 9/10. Paid 250 euros.

At 5 AM, left the club, got into a cab and headed for Tegel to catch my plane. Again, the taxi driver was puzzled and told me it was the first time that a customer heads directly to the airport from Artemis. Overall, a nice experience. I will repeat it 1-2 times a year. Still prefer the Brasilian clubs or Duabi for the quality of the girls.

Visit to Artemis 31-10-12.

I arrived in Berlin for a visit of a few days. On previous visits I have headed for Artemis first.

On this occasion I heeded the comments on this forum that Wednesday to Saturday were better nights to visit because the number and choice of girls was better on these nights. For me it became a choice between Wednesday or Thursday. I choose Wednesday.

I travelled via Westkreutz Banhof and the Artemis trail from there to the front door of Artemis.

The lady at the reception desk took the money and gave me keys and a robe. In addition she very kindly changed some large denomination notes into smaller denominations, the easier to pay the girls with. In my haste I stuffed these into my shirt pocket along with some other things.

I arrived after 16. 00 hours and intended to take it easy until after 18. 00 hours.

I was disappointed to find that the new extension was not complete. It appears that it will be of a significant size. This can bee seen on a well known earth view.

I spent much of the time in the down stairs Kino. A one point every girl that came into the kino made straight for me. Here I received numerous offers to session all of which I declined.

After 18. 00hrs I was in the kino off the main bar. I did not find it easy to watch the films here because of the noise from the bar. After a while a Spanish girl came in. She was good looking, curvy sexy and persuasive. We went to a room. There was no waiting at this time. In the room there was no connection and the session was a failure. I cannot blame the girl for this.

Sometime later in the down stairs Kino. A girl came in who I had spoken to previously. I had told her that I would not be ready until later. She asked me if I was ready this time, and I was. She sat beside me and soon a connection was made, I felt positive about this. She offered to start with a blow job in the Kino and soon she had worked me up to a state of complete readiness. After 5 minutes of this we transferred to a near by room. There I engaged in an energetic and noisy session.

The girl was not the best looking in the place but she was sexy and willing. After completion she said 'crazy fuck' and I said ' yeh fucking crazy'.

Sometime later in the down stairs Kino. A girl came in who said she was from an eastern country.

I thought I felt ready so I went to a room with her. This session was not a failure but was not any thing to write home about either, it was quite mediocre.

After three sessions the score was 1. 5 out 3. A 50% success rate. This is less than I have achieved before at Artemis.

At a certain point in time I started to wonder if this was the best night for me despite the advice that is given on this thread. There was more girls than I had seen before and many of them were good looking and sexy. Most of them stood or sat about with no one talking to them. I wondered if there was a stand off going on. They were dressed in under wear. I had forgotten that this happened on Wednesday and I found it disappointing. On previous visits I loved to see them around the bar naked. I approached a girl that I had noted in the restaurant but she said that she was busy. I moved towards a sexy blond goddess but she turned her back on me and walked to the bar. There was a group of swarthy individuals in the main bar with one central figure. He looked at me in the passing and commented to one of his cohort, who turned and looked as well. This attention was unwelcome and made me think they probably come from a part of their world where they have different standards of behaviour. Every time I passed this group appeared to be larger. At the downstairs bar I was gazing at the TV when a swarthy individual dressed in a towel went behind the bar and finding the remote control proceeded to change the channels. I thought that this demonstrated a lack of common courtesy. I wondered about what level of control the management exert over the behaviour of their customers.

One of the soft seats adjacent to the upstairs Kino had two splits in it. This is a sign that the fabric of the establishment is wearing out and calls into question the standard of maintenance that is being achieved.

I had intended to stay longer but by this time there were things on my mind, and I did not feel comfortable being there, and I felt that I should return another time.

Next time I visit Artemis I will choose a day when the girls will be naked, and girls out number men. I could not put up with queuing for the rooms, and I like some elbow room. Therefore, I do not think I would like to be there when it is crowded. I will wait until the extension is complete before returning.

On this visit to Berlin the best session was at Royal (second Royal report). I concluded in my first Royal report that 'this was the way that gentlemen should meet blondes'. I hold to that view.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25; 1345883]Visit to Artemis 31-10-12. After a while a Spanish girl came in. A girl came in who I had spoken to previously. Sometime later in the down stairs Kino. A girl came in who said she was from an eastern country.[/QUOTE]Amazing (if that is the right word) you can remember all these times, decor, atmospheric details, yet not one of the girls' actual names? Names are really important to help guide forum members, who probably also have their own diaries

[QUOTE=GabyMaximus; 1345821]Saturday visit Artemis 3-11-2012.

GIRL 3: tall silicone boobs german

I was approached by this tall german girl, I just remember that she has piercing in both her nipples. She offered all sorts of incredible service, but after reading the posts in this forum I was reluctant to go with her. I made up my mind not to do her, but she wouldn't leave me alone. Finally, when she asked me what I do for living, I told her this famous line from a movie: "I am into murders and executions". And she left.[/QUOTE]"I am into murders and executions".

This needs some love my mate. A+

I will use it when at the Love Bahnhof next time and will introduce myself as "Patrick"

I visited Artemis Sunday to Wednesday last week and thought the lineup was the best I've experienced the last three years! I guess when it comes to looks it is very individual, the only thing that I would have loved to have more of in Artemis is to have some southamericans, Cubanas present because the lineup is mostly EE-girls with a few exceptions. My best sessions on this trip was with a german girl named Annika very social girl totally GFE almost tantric experience did repeat her a few times, another girl with great GFE experience is Iris a Romanian girl I've had the pleasure to have met quite a lot the last few years. Another girl who deserves a mention is the african girl I believe she said she was from Ethiopia can't remember her name but with enhanced breast not GFE but her fuckingskills was very good.

Sorry for the delay but I seem to hook up with girls no one else reports on.

I cruised through after an absence of a year.

I had the distinct benefit and edification of catching up with Rb and Angus.

I went for an evening session after flying on a 10 hour flight. Rb said I was not really hard core because I went to my hotel first rather than direct to Artemis.

Arrived around 4pm.

Many familiar faces after a year. Lecki and Inga, Thai girls etc.

I took my time, declined a few.

I happened upon Alev, a Turkish girl of 28 years who has lived most her life in central Germany. One kid. Small. 154cm tall but curvy with B / C cup breast and shapely arse. Good English, she was somewhat hesitant but I liked her. So we headed to the Zimmer. She did tell me she had issues with kissing men with facial hair. We was happy with LFK. Very high quality BBBJ, almost an early CIM. I went for DATY and she was picky once again about facial hair but she enjoyed an extended tongue on her clit. After about 5 mins, she proclaimed that her pussy was wet and that I should fucked her. This proved an excellent plan as I banged away watching her boobs oscillate. She provided particular encouragement while taking it from behind. Finished by jerking me off but was rather surprised when I shot my load over her breasts.

After due recovery, I started talking to a Brasilian girl called Luciana from near Rio. 22 yo. 168cm tall She is not classical mulata despite being black. Indian blood. Super nice girl, limited English, perfect rounded Natural breasts, very firm and perfect rear end. We headed for the Zimmer and started a pretty standard enjoyable session. In the midst of banging away she got very quiet for while and then came to life with a series of dirty talk in English, German and Portuguese. She asked me to get on top and fuck her: "Give it to me, boss". I comply and she seemed to orgasm. She then ask whether I wanted anal, not pushy. Not my usual deal but decided to go for it, it was good. Highlight was standing up giving it to her from behind with her facing one of the mirrors in room 14. That got me to cum, then spent 10 minutes playing with what is an excellent body.

After a break of day, headed in at about 12 midday.

Looking for a relaxed start and hoping to seeing Fatima or Marketa (or both).

I was disappointed but soon got over it.

I was circulating and bumped in a girl called Stefania, half German, half Spanish 24 yo standing in the stairwell. She asked me why I was standing there, I said to look at the girls. She said,"look at me'. Finding her blue sparkly eyes a bit spellbinding, I found myself going to the Zimmer with a girl I might not usually look at. A little voluptuous. 38C boobs with pink nipples. Any hesitation soon vanishing as got into DFK. 69 and some energetic fucking. I talk a break in the middle to chat with her and she proved very entertaining and interested in all sorts of things. The boobs were great and she provided a memorable tit fuck, BJ before we got back into the sex again. Finished with a slow deep BBBJ and CIM.

I relaxed for while and was approached by Romanian Antonia who remembered me, even my name. As she circulated she was with a spectacular Amazonian girl named Anka from the Transylvanian end of Romania. 25 years, brunette, high cheek bones, tremendous brown eyes, tattoo of crab on right flank, tramp stamp on back. 179cm tall, excellent skin, implanted boobs appropriate for her build. I had wondered if she was a brunette opti flick. As I chatted with her, she demonstrated an excellent dry sense of humor. Rooms upstairs were tight so we went next the downstairs kino, where you get the sounds of the kino and other rooms. The room was fine but she observed you are a big man, I would like you in a big bed. We made do. As I cuddled up to her, I began to appreciate what a great specimen she was, fantastically tone and I major shape. It was a great session, physically a bit challenging for me, she likes deep penetration and was pretty specific about how she liked it. Very much enjoyed this but was tired afterwards.

Rested for a while and I considered going home. Took a swim, sauna and massage. Came across Alev again. Went to room in the back of the downstairs kino. This was initially Ok and we engaged in a fairly willing session. I picked her up off the ground and was pounding away when we noticed a guy standing at the curtained doorway masturbating. He was a guy with an implant prosthesis. Alev shooed him away and he left but came back as I was giving it to her doggy style. She admonished him again and he left. Finished with CIM and COF with a great PSE pose from Alev. We chatted for a while. She is new at Artemis and looking for friends among the girls. I did some more swim and sauna. I ate some food and Alev happened to be in the dining area. I talked to her and considered doing her again but felt it was time to go.

The new extension looks interesting, hopefully I can try it next time. It was a good trip despite not seeing a couple of favorites.

BSK

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1347638]I was circulating and bumped in a girl called Stefania, half German, half Spanish 24 yo standing in the stairwell. She asked me why I was standing there, I said to look at the girls. She said,"look at me'. Finding her blue sparkly eyes a bit spellbinding, I found myself going to the Zimmer with a girl I might not usually look at. A little voluptuous. 38C boobs with pink nipples. Any hesitation soon vanishing as got into DFK. 69 and some energetic fucking. I talk a break in the middle to chat with her and she proved very entertaining and interested in all sorts of things. The boobs were great and she provided a memorable tit fuck, BJ before we got back into the sex again. Finished with a slow deep BBBJ and CIM.

BSK[/QUOTE]I remember meeting an attractive half German, half Spanish girl at Artemis standing in the stairwelll also, but don't quite remember her name. Stefania sounds very familiar. Here's the kicker though. The girl I remember had some nice titties with inverted nipples! Did this Stefania have inverted nipples? If so, it's got to be the same girl, who told me that although she was half Spanish, she did not speak Spanish.

The girl I remember had a nice round ass too. I wanted that butt hole, but she said she didn't do anal. So, I got a 30 minute session with her and did her hard doggy. Then we went into mish, and she had some of the sweetest, tightest nookie I've ever had at Artemis! Why I remember this girl. My Jimmy run deep up inside her, and we were both moaning and groaning with her face contorted in pleasure, and her arms and hands waving around involuntarily in uncontrollable spastic motions LOL! This is how I knew her sexual pleasure was not fake.

It has to be the same girl! Stefania! Also, I hate it for you that you did not see Marketa. I know she's been well-ridden by many a monger, but that girl is still damn hot, and I'm still impressed to this very day how well such a petite little girl took The Cane balls deep into her tight, blonde, Czech girl anus. Was wonderful. I still regret to this day that I did not get more time with Stefania too. That pussy was good! Had a monger moaning with pleasure in the room.

[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn; 1345672]Maybe german Tina? But I don't know if she closes her eyes during session.[/QUOTE]She does. Maybe it's her.

[quote=belvaros; 1346209]"i am into murders and executions".

this needs some love my mate. a+[/quote]yes, that is a good one.

i have some further suggestions to make girls go away:

"i am a catholic priest, and i am here to save girls from eternal damnation!"

"i am a necrophiliac. are you good at playing dead?"

"i don't work. i just go to places, where i can pay girls to change my [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url]"

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1347638]I picked her up off the ground and was pounding away when we noticed a guy standing at the curtained doorway masturbating. He was a guy with an implant prosthesis. Alev shooed him away and he left but came back as I was giving it to her doggy style.

The new extension looks interesting, hopefully I can try it next time.[/QUOTE]Commander B. It was great to see you again, but this little sub-story has left me dumbfounded. I did not know you had a thing for implants :eek:

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1347623]Sorry for the delay but I seem to hook up with girls no one else reports on.

I happened upon Alev, a Turkish girl of 28 years who has lived most her life in central Germany. One kid. Small. 154cm tall but curvy with B / C cup breast and shapely arse. Good English, she was somewhat hesitant but I liked her. So we headed to the Zimmer. She did tell me she had issues with kissing men with facial hair. We was happy with LFK. Very high quality BBBJ, almost an early CIM. I went for DATY and she was picky once again about facial hair but she enjoyed an extended tongue on her clit. After about 5 mins, she proclaimed that her pussy was wet and that I should fucked her. This proved an excellent plan as I banged away watching her boobs oscillate. She provided particular encouragement while taking it from behind. Finished by jerking me off but was rather surprised when I shot my load over her breasts.[/QUOTE]I ran in to Alev last week but my experience is that she was not that pleasant. She was very moody and constantly tried to rush things so I decided to stop what we were doing and walk down stairs again. She was very pretty though.

I went to Artemis for the first time last week. It was nice but I think that it's a place that gets better once you get more acquainted with the place.

I met two nice girls last week but I can't seem to remember their names.

One of them said she was from the Black Sea Coast of Turkey. She was about 1. 65 or 1. 70 cm tall, tanned and had brownish hair and tattoos on her feets ("Simba" and "Mami"). Her English was good. I think her name was Bouza or Pouza or something. I think she had silicone breasts.

The other one was Colombian. She was about 1. 65 or 1. 70 tall and had curly blondish hair that was shoulder length. She was tanned and had some freckles in her face and on her chest. Great ass. She mostly spoke Spanish but also some German and English. She was freaky (in a good way).

Also, has anyone met Nathalia?

[QUOTE=Simon Rex;1348069]The other one was Colombian. She was about 1. 65 or 1. 70 tall and had curly blondish hair that was shoulder length. She was tanned and had some freckles in her face and on her chest. Great ass. She mostly spoke Spanish but also some German and English. She was freaky (in a good way).[/QUOTE]Michelle.

[QUOTE=Simon Rex;1348069]Also, has anyone met Nathalia?[/QUOTE]She was there last week. Recommend her.

The nipples are big and pink, I don't remember them being inverted.

The pussy is pink and tight, and really wet with a little attention. She grew up in Germany and does not speak Spanish but has good English and fluent German.

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1347687]I remember meeting an attractive half German, half Spanish girl at Artemis standing in the stairwelll also, but don't quite remember her name. Stefania sounds very familiar. Here's the kicker though. The girl I remember had some nice titties with inverted nipples! Did this Stefania have inverted nipples? If so, it's got to be the same girl, who told me that although she was half Spanish, she did not speak Spanish.

The girl I remember had a nice round ass too. I wanted that butt hole, but she said she didn't do anal. So, I got a 30 minute session with her and did her hard doggy. Then we went into mish, and she had some of the sweetest, tightest nookie I've ever had at Artemis! Why I remember this girl. My Jimmy run deep up inside her, and we were both moaning and groaning with her face contorted in pleasure, and her arms and hands waving around involuntarily in uncontrollable spastic motions LOL! This is how I knew her sexual pleasure was not fake.

It has to be the same girl! Stefania! Also, I hate it for you that you did not see Marketa. I know she's been well-ridden by many a monger, but that girl is still damn hot, and I'm still impressed to this very day how well such a petite little girl took The Cane balls deep into her tight, blonde, Czech girl anus. Was wonderful. I still regret to this day that I did not get more time with Stefania too. That pussy was good! Had a monger moaning with pleasure in the room.[/QUOTE]

She tried to rush me, the first time. I told I wanted Eine Stunde and Langsamer bitte. This confused her a bit initially but I managed to slow her down.

The second time around was much better, in fact a very good session indeed.

She is pretty. I am sorry it did not work out for you.

[QUOTE=Simon Rex;1348067]I ran in to Alev last week but my experience is that she was not that pleasant. She was very moody and constantly tried to rush things so I decided to stop what we were doing and walk down stairs again. She was very pretty though.[/QUOTE]

I like a good implant, but just as well I am not the invisible man.

If the guy got to orgasm would he pay for the session; I would not come cheap!

It was in the Kino: je suis un pornstar?

It was great to see you, pornstarRB.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1347943]Commander B. It was great to see you again, but this little sub-story has left me dumbfounded. I did not know you had a thing for implants :eek:[/QUOTE]

OK. She was rather cheerful and pleasant the following day when I ran into her by the stairs. But with yesterday fresh in mind I just nodded and walked away from her. The other Turkish girl was much better. It's a pitty I can't remember her name.

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1348351]She tried to rush me, the first time. I told I wanted Eine Stunde and Langsamer bitte. This confused her a bit initially but I managed to slow her down.

The second time around was much better, in fact a very good session indeed.

She is pretty. I am sorry it did not work out for you.[/QUOTE]

Yeah Nathalia was great. Very GFE. I met her on Day 1 but didn't manage to catch her between rounds on Day 2.

Is Michelle a regular?

[QUOTE=Pharisaer; 1348212]Michelle.

She was there last week. Recommend her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Simon Rex;1348364]Is Michelle a regular?[/QUOTE]She's been there for a while. She is humble and sharkish at the same time. She also manages to provide a combination of GFE and PSE. With those beautiful eyes staring at me I understand that the price of love starts at minimum 60 E. The downside of her behaviour is when her voice changes in the direction of a little girl. Told her to behave. Whats the purpose of such behaviour anyway? To crossexamine the guys perversions? Dislike.

Another late report.

Halloween night at Artemis. Arrived very late from work, around 11. Actually needed to be reminded by Vivien (see below) that it was Halloween, maybe I should work a bit less. Just not possible at present. Also, maybe picked a poor time, maybe many girls partying. But I thought the line-up was quite poor. Lots of large and numerous tattoos, lots of silicone, but not lots of pretty girls. Also the underwear (dessous tag) was among the poorest I've seen on such a day in an FKK. But that is very individual, of course.

Since it was rather late, the girls made even less effort than on my last visit (see report). You could probably count the girls on one hand who a) didn't propose sex in the first sentence, be) did realize that my given name is not Schatzi or Baby.

Anyway after a long search I settled on Vivien, Romania, not very tall, chin long black hair, enhanced C's, size 36. Was a bit sceptical at first, because she also had a bit an Artemis-type approach but is a good girl and can recommend. Intense long DFK, DATY, BBBJ and doesn't mind a bit harder. Well she tried to upsell CIM a bit (I really want your juice / if I'm good, will you give me your juice? Haha). One hour (120).

Took me a long time to find another, but that was also because I wanted a blonde or redhead, realizing that I had only been with dark types recently. But most blondes had a horrible attitude. Finally settled on Nicole, fake blonde shoulder long hair, eastern European, did not ask nationality, probably the same we're all used to, moderately tall, size 34. She was very nice throughout, but heavy attempt to upsell CIM, Anal and no kissing in the room, quite good BBBJ though. And she was sexy in a whorish kind of way. I give her the benefit of a doubt cause it was very late but do not recommend. 60 euros. Left around 4, sure enough, had to get up at 6. 30.

Don't want to generalize too much, I know there are people here who really like the place, but I'm just not thrilled about it. It's not even the sessions, as you can read above, they were not that bad. Yes, it's possible to find a gem or two in the mud if you look hard enough. But it's just not an attractive environment there. In order to spend my hard-earned cash I really expect a bit more than hey Schatzi, you found me, of the majority of females. And I usually neither have the time nor the desire to spend ages in a club looking for that special girl among all the annoyances. That visit really reminded me why I had not been there so long. In many ways it felt like a crappy RLD for guys wearing robes. There are a lot of better FKKs, unfortunately not anywhere near though.

Some advice, maybe obvious, but maybe useful for some. I had actually already quite forgotten about that tactic because it's completely unnecessary in some other places, but for Artemis with many girls proposing to session immediately: Always turn down a girl first, even if you're interested, and see how she reacts, that already tells you a lot.

One more thing: Went to the kino in the main bar and they were playing exactly the same totally unattractive porn (an ugly blonde fucking in a car garage and a few other scenes) from my visit a few weeks ago. And it was no coincidence, I checked back two or three hours later. Yes, I know, that's managed poorly in other places too, and probably not a major factor, but I thought it was telling.

I believe the other Turkish girl is Bousa or Bussa.

[QUOTE=Simon Rex;1348363]OK. She was rather cheerful and pleasant the following day when I ran into her by the stairs. But with yesterday fresh in mind I just nodded and walked away from her. The other Turkish girl was much better. It's a pitty I can't remember her name.[/QUOTE]

Yes something like that. I had just spent 3, 5 hours with Michelle and I had a flight to catch but she was laying on her stomach in one of the beds in the bar area and I just had to see her, it was short and sweet. It seems a lot of the girls aren't in the girls gallery at the Artemis web site.

[QUOTE=Bearsk;1348741]I believe the other Turkish girl is Bousa or Bussa.[/QUOTE]

I spent 3, 5 hours with her and it was great. She didn't change her voice that way with me. But she tried to hustle me going for 500 E for quite some while. I told her "vamonos" and started moving towards the door. End of discussion. Also she wanted me to massage her in the beginning but I didn't go for that.

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1348630]She's been there for a while. She is humble and sharkish at the same time. She also manages to provide a combination of GFE and PSE. With those beautiful eyes staring at me I understand that the price of love starts at minimum 60 E. The downside of her behaviour is when her voice changes in the direction of a little girl. Told her to behave. Whats the purpose of such behaviour anyway? To crossexamine the guys perversions? Dislike.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1348630]She's been there for a while. She is humble and sharkish at the same time. She also manages to provide a combination of GFE and PSE. With those beautiful eyes staring at me I understand that the price of love starts at minimum 60 E. The downside of her behaviour is when her voice changes in the direction of a little girl. Told her to behave. Whats the purpose of such behaviour anyway? To crossexamine the guys perversions? Dislike.[/QUOTE]Good despriction, I agree. IMHO she can be called a regular. AFAIR she's working in Artemis quite regularly since May or June 2011.

I was hoping she was. Can't wait to hit that again.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1348826]Good despriction, I agree. IMHO she can be called a regular. AFAIR she's working in Artemis quite regularly since May or June 2011.[/QUOTE]

[quote=dick1; 1327653]thank you angus,

my last 3 times to artemis i have been disappointed. previously i believed that this is the best fkk club in germany. but not anymore. there are many beautiful girls in other fkk clubs in germany who want to work here, but they're not allowed. it is thus a strange control who gets and who do not get work here. primarily for economic reasons where pimps control and distribute their girls.

am i the only one to think there is fewer pretty girls here?[/quote]i completely agree. had the worst mongoring experience of my life tonight there. this egyptian / brazilian big fake tits and big assed girl, t-something, wouldn't let me touch her boobs, wouldn't sit on me facing my feet, and wouldn't even let me go at my own fucking pace! i was about to pop and she sat up and said i hate your sex, in 5 years no one does this (um, all i was doing was going a bit slower than 100% pound as fast as i can) and that she didn't like it. wtf? that was like 10 mins in. i stayed away from her nipples, i didn't make her hop on me, and she's whining because i don't pop 2 mins into a 30 min paid session, and whining about how i am fucking her missionary (not rough, just not super speed)? the manager of course takes her side and i have to pay the ****. then i get paola from spain who i pay to cim and who basically just gives me a hand job with th tip in her mouth. i hear two other girls in the kino telling the guy to hurry up when she just started sucking.

ths place is a piece of shit conveyor belt bullshit club with girls wanting a 2 second pop to run out and pressure another guy to pop and pay for it.

not how i like to be treated.

the difference between here and gt in vienna is astronomical. the difference with k5 in prague is beyond imagination.

go if you must. but avoid tatiana, or whatever her name is. but great night not guaranteed.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;1350122]Not how I like to be treated.[/QUOTE]I understand. Thats a pity. I was treated like you one year ago, but my friends told me: don't stop visiting Artemis. Every cloud has a silver lining. They we're right. Had twenty or thirty good and great days there since then, I don't count.

Was there Saturday too, and had a good afternoon and evening there. A good afternoon and evening, but not a great one. Place was to busy. Maybe that's the reason why the girls try to manage as much customers and to earn as much money they can. Note: sometimes you have to wait twenty minutes or so to catch a room on a busy day. Wasted time in the girls eyes.

A word to the wise: Avoid Friday and Saturday night during fall and winter. If you can't, start your Friday or Saturday visit at noon. Beat the rush. Fuck early, leave early. Thursday is a good night for visiting Artemis. The place is much slower in comparision to Friday or Saturday, but you'll find all the stunners there.

Hello,

I'm going to Artemis tomorrow. Can't wait! I'm going to arrive at Artemis around 22-23. Is that too late for a Monday night? Should I wait until the next day? I have to leave to the airport around 17.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope; 1350120]Had the worst mongoring experience of my life tonight there. This Egyptian / Brazilian big fake tits and big assed girl, t-something,

Ths place is a piece of shit conveyor belt bullshit club with girls wanting a 2 second pop to run out and pressure another guy to pop and pay for it. But great night not guaranteed.[/QUOTE]Well it happens. You simply must choose wisely. Can't say enough that chemistry rules, and you have to talk and take the time to size up the vibes, and walk away if things are not right before heading off to the races.

Who knows whether you did this or not, or what role your own mood played in all this? But nothing is guaranteed in paid sex between strangers, and especially if it is just me me me. Not defending sharks or those who are in it just for the money, but just sayin it usually takes 2 to tango.

Can't speak about other bordells in other places but I will say merely that I was at the Bahnhoff Fri pm with steady wingman Herr Ober Leutenant "IceMan" Magee and I had mighty fine times with semi newish Anna (light brunette curvy Romanian) and Busa (dark haired curvaceous German-Turkish) both of whom seriously rocked RB's jadded world. Funny, tender, passionate, responsive, all I could ask for. Even better than Episode 7 of Last Resort.

Sorry Phariser don't agree about avoiding Fri-Sat, though it is better before midnight. Have been struck over past 2 months varying days between Thurs-Sat that actually, one cannot really generalise who will be there. The line up varies more than I expected; I used to think those around Wed and Thurs would stay through the 2 prime weekend nights but it is not so true. It is probably a function of whether girls are locals (girls who live in Berlin) vs those who sleep upstairs for 1-3 weeks from more distant ports. If locals had either a lucrative or rough time the night before, they are likely to vary their schedules more. It all just depends on how the karmic breezes are blowing.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;1350122]Go if you must. But avoid Tatiana, or whatever her name is. But great night not guaranteed.[/QUOTE]Sorry for your bad experience. I presume you're talking about Talisa. One of my most spectacular sessions with a WG happened with this girl. Reading your report was a big surprise. Sometimes people don't match, and to be honest, it could have been something she didn't like about you. Sorry to say that. I can only speculate about possible reasons. Hormons, bad day, bad hair day, forgot to call her mother on her birthday, brother is sick or cat is dead.

Anyway, this is my report on her from 2011:


TALISA (EGYPT / BRA) 24 years old, long black hair, a lot of makeup around her eyes. 160 cm. Stunning ass (perfect balance between musculus gluteus maximus / medius / minimus). She approached me and started kissing my mouth saying ' let mommy take care of you' and was really cuddling and warm. This statement brought a new dimension to my life. It felt very strange, but exciting, and I must point out that you really must not think about your own mother. BJ, kissing, attention and desire was out of this world! I loved the way she manipulated me, the illusion was so realistic and addictive that I had a hard task ending the session after 120 minutes. I was in paradise. Does anal, but it is not my cup of tea. On my way home at the Messe Nord / ICC S bahn station 5:15 in the morning I asked myself if this was the high peak of my life and had to dry my eyes caused by overwhelming emotions. Verdict: A

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;1350122]I completely agree. Had the worst mongoring experience of my life tonight there. This Egyptian / Brazilian big fake tits and big assed girl, t-something, wouldn't let me touch her boobs. Not how I like to be treated.[/QUOTE]How is it in Artemis, can't you leave some of your complaints to the manager? I have done this in other fkk's before leaving and felt good about it. Maybe it sometimes does no justice to the girls, but it's an idea to get better service. Regards, Roll Buzz

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1350410]Have been struck over past 2 months varying days between Thurs-Sat that actually, one cannot really generalise who will be there. The line up varies more than I expected[/QUOTE]You're right, lineup varies and you can't generalise who will be there on a given day. It's just my advise based on my personal experiences.

[QUOTE=Roll Buzz;1350426]How is it in Artemis, can't you leave some of your complaints to the manager? I have done this in other fkk's before leaving and felt good about it. Maybe it sometimes does no justice to the girls, but it's an idea to get better service. Regards, Roll Buzz[/QUOTE]Sure. Usually you're asked about your general satisfaction when you're about to leave and return your key (and the place isn't to busy as well). Don't hesitate to answer the question, the staff will listen. AFAIR there is or was a box for questionnaires near the entrance too.

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1350415]TALISA (EGYPT / BRA) 24 years old, long black hair, a lot of makeup around her eyes. 160 cm. Stunning ass (perfect balance between musculus gluteus maximus / medius / minimus). She approached me and started kissing my mouth saying ' let mommy take care of you' and was really cuddling and warm. This statement brought a new dimension to my life. It felt very strange, but exciting, and I must point out that you really must not think about your own mother. BJ, kissing, attention and desire was out of this world! I loved the way she manipulated me, the illusion was so realistic and addictive that I had a hard task ending the session after 120 minutes. I was in paradise. Does anal, but it is not my cup of tea. On my way home at the Messe Nord / ICC S bahn station 5:15 in the morning I asked myself if this was the high peak of my life and had to dry my eyes caused by overwhelming emotions. Verdict: A[/QUOTE]I've only met one girl at the FKKs claiming Egypt, and that was the infamous one at Palace with the bad reputation (and deservedly so in my opinion). Could this somehow be the same girl? I ask because the "let mommy take care of you line" sounds exactly like something she would say. If it is the same one under another moniker, well at least somebody got a good fuck out of her. The girls are known to move around from club to club from time to time. Wouldn't be surprised if she gave Artemis a go in the past.

[QUOTE=The Cane;1350515]I've only met one girl at the FKKs claiming Egypt, and that was the infamous one at Palace with the bad reputation (and deservedly so in my opinion). Could this somehow be the same girl? I ask because the "let mommy take care of you line" sounds exactly like something she would say. If it is the same one under another moniker, well at least somebody got a good fuck out of her. The girls are known to move around from club to club from time to time. Wouldn't be surprised if she gave Artemis a go in the past.[/QUOTE]In Palace you have 2 girls who claim Egyptian heritage. Alexandra / Angelina and Chanel. Chanel also works in Artemis as Talisa, and is quite distinctive with her Amy Winehouse style eye make up / hair, BJ lips, an ass that really sticks out and huge tits as per the links below. Except for one occasion I've found Talisa to be a great PSE, but I think she was wilder in her Oase days (as Mercedes)

[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/wp-content/gallery/events/artemis-fasching-2012-027.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/wp-content/gallery/events/artemis-fasching-2012-038.jpg[/url]

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby; 1350415]Sorry for your bad experience. I presume you're talking about Talisa. One of my most spectacular sessions with a WG happened with this girl. Reading your report was a big surprise. Sometimes people don't match, and to be honest, it could have been something she didn't like about you. Sorry to say that. I can only speculate about possible reasons. Hormons, bad day, bad hair day, forgot to call her mother on her birthday, brother is sick or cat is dead.

Anyway, this is my report on her from 2011:

TALISA (EGYPT / BRA) 24 years old, long black hair, a lot of makeup around her eyes. 160 cm. Stunning ass (perfect balance between musculus gluteus maximus / medius / minimus). She approached me and started kissing my mouth saying ' let mommy take care of you' and was really cuddling and warm. This statement brought a new dimension to my life. It felt very strange, but exciting, and I must point out that you really must not think about your own mother. BJ, kissing, attention and desire was out of this world! I loved the way she manipulated me, the illusion was so realistic and addictive that I had a hard task ending the session after 120 minutes. I was in paradise. Does anal, but it is not my cup of tea. On my way home at the Messe Nord / ICC S bahn station 5:15 in the morning I asked myself if this was the high peak of my life and had to dry my eyes caused by overwhelming emotions. Verdict: A[/QUOTE]Hilarious report on Talisa. I had similar emotions while I was fukking Jenny of Palace. You are almost outside yourself thinking,"this is unbelievable and definitely the best fuck of my life".

[quote=usaineurope; 1350122]i completely agree. had the worst mongoring experience of my life tonight there. this egyptian / brazilian big fake tits and big assed girl, t-something, wouldn't let me touch her boobs, wouldn't sit on me facing my feet, and wouldn't even let me go at my own fucking pace! i was about to pop and she sat up and said i hate your sex, in 5 years no one does this (um, all i was doing was going a bit slower than 100% pound as fast as i can) and that she didn't like it. wtf? that was like 10 mins in. i stayed away from her nipples, i didn't make her hop on me, and she's whining because i don't pop 2 mins into a 30 min paid session, and whining about how i am fucking her missionary (not rough, just not super speed)? the manager of course takes her side and i have to pay the. then i get paola from spain who i pay to cim and who basically just gives me a hand job with th tip in her mouth. i hear two other girls in the kino telling the guy to hurry up when she just started sucking.

ths place is a piece of shit conveyor belt bullshit club with girls wanting a 2 second pop to run out and pressure another guy to pop and pay for it.

not how i like to be treated.

the difference between here and gt in vienna is astronomical. the difference with k5 in prague is beyond imagination.

go if you must. but avoid tatiana, or whatever her name is. but great night not guaranteed.[/quote]sorry to hear that usa. but you, as an experienced monger, know that there is incredible variability in experiences depending on which girls you choose. also it sounds like you could have screened the girls better. i basically ask the girls if they like to french kiss, and if they like daty / bbbj. i also tell them i do not like to cim or do anal but like to do longer sessions if things go well. if they balk, i walk.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux; 1348732]Another late report.

Don't want to generalize too much, I know there are people here who really like the place, but I'm just not thrilled about it. It's not even the sessions, as you can read above, they were not that bad. Yes, it's possible to find a gem or two in the mud if you look hard enough. But it's just not an attractive environment there. In order to spend my hard-earned cash I really expect a bit more than hey Schatzi, you found me, of the majority of females. And I usually neither have the time nor the desire to spend ages in a club looking for that special girl among all the annoyances. That visit really reminded me why I had not been there so long. In many ways it felt like a crappy RLD for guys wearing robes. There are a lot of better FKKs, unfortunately not anywhere near though.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that. I think the gist of your argument is what my same argument is for mongering in general. My like for the 2 FKKs I have been to in Goldentime (Wien) and Artemis is that whilst there is a lot of chuff in the water and circling sharks one can still find a juicy King George Whiting to munch on.

In somewhere like Budapest (read Kiev, Minsk, Moscow, Sofia, Bucharest etc) you have the added problem of having to phone said sharks and then hope that your experience once you actually get to the ho's apartment is okay. All of us have been ripped off or disappointed. I just find in Artemis one can increase the odds of a great time by being in tune to the negative. And there are many great women there that some of the bad can be excluded.

Nina, Marketa, Ella, Jenna, Nathalie, Hillary etc are awesome. Maybe the stars were not aligned for you at that time but I hear ya about bad experiences.

Last week I was in GT in Wien with a nice girl Marcella (had been with her before) and she was apalling. Bad attitude. Whined about making no money. Whined about me going with different girls etc etc whereas 1st time with her was a 10/10 experience. I am prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt.

I am going to Artemis now for a LONG night. The few escorts online in Berlin I tried have been just so so. Would rather pay the bucks to be in a target rich environment tonight rather than try individual lakes for lighter prey.

Party on Wayne

[QUOTE=Samplerr; 1350645]In Palace you have 2 girls who claim Egyptian heritage. Alexandra / Angelina and Chanel. Chanel also works in Artemis as Talisa, and is quite distinctive with her Amy Winehouse style eye make up / hair, BJ lips, an ass that really sticks out and huge tits as per the links below. Except for one occasion I've found Talisa to be a great PSE, but I think she was wilder in her Oase days (as Mercedes)

[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/wp-content/gallery/events/artemis-fasching-2012-027.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/wp-content/gallery/events/artemis-fasching-2012-038.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the informative response. Well, at least my thought that she has worked in different clubs under different names is confirmed. But she's not the infamous Alexandra / Angelina, who I do not find to be attractive at all, physically or "behaviorally" LOL!

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby; 1350415]Anyway, this is my report on her from 2011:

TALISA (EGYPT / BRA) 24 years old, long black hair, a lot of makeup around her eyes. 160 cm. Stunning ass (perfect balance between musculus gluteus maximus / medius / minimus). She approached me and started kissing my mouth saying ' let mommy take care of you' and was really cuddling and warm. This statement brought a new dimension to my life. It felt very strange, but exciting, and I must point out that you really must not think about. Verdict: A[/QUOTE]Last 2/3 times I visited Artemis I was approached almost immediately by a girl claiming to be from Egypt and every time I declined, vaguely remembering the horror stories I read on ISG, not sure if it's the same girl but I'll try to remember the details and maybe give it a try next time, if I'll be in the mood to try new girls, that is. Berlin calling.

Cheers!

Kimino

Went to Artemis the other night after an early attempt needed to be aborted. I must admit I was somewhat apprehensive after many poor recent reports but once my head got inside the doors of the Love Bahnhof I could see what some of the commotion is about. There are many new faces (to me) that are of the poor eating shark variety. But amongst those chummy waters one noticed several familiar faces attached to PSE type bodies.

Enough has been written about regular girls but I was so lucky to enjoy an initial up-sell-a-thon in which I agreed to go to the room with a new lass from Bulgaria-Moldova-whoknowswhere for ONE HOUR as long as it was just a 120 Euros straight sex a thon. This lass goes by the name of Dori. Or is it Doreen. Anyway. Somewhat dark skin of the deeply tanend or Arabic variety. Pretty face. Black hair and blue contacts. Cheeky grin on her mug.

1) Dori. We get to the room (zero wait) and the up sell starts RIGHT AWAY. I firmly tell her I do not want CIM. 3somes, ANAL, or anything to do with dogs or fleas. She laughs and starts a very poor BBBJ. Mainly hands. I stop her right away and tell her to blow me or the session will end. She,"I will do uncovered BJ only if you CIM". Nope I say. Anyway after haggling with her while my little head is in her mouth (read actually mainly her hand) she is arguing away (kind of funny with part dick in mouth and as my granny would have said to her."Never speak with your mouth somewhat full [of cock]"). Said session became so annoying that I got her to put on the rub-a-dub-dub and I fucked her missonary for about 15 minutes all the while she was yapping at me to COB. Do anal etc. In the end I couldn't CUM cause I was bleeding angrier than a dog at a cat show. I pulled out, regrouped, surrendered my mission and left the room. I was with her all of 19 minutes so I went to pay her 60 quid. She starts whining like a * about 1 hour etc. So I YELLED back at her in my loudest BAD German, crossed with Italian, English and Romanian swear words. So much so that everyone within 2 kms must have heard. Then I proceeded straight to the front desk and told them of my CONCERNS about said wench. Who, all the while was still yapping at me like a dog. This is the way to Shark satisfaction I have concluded. Shoot 'them in front of THE other sharks'.

I met up with a nice Scottish group at the bar and warned everyone there about this lass. Kind of enjoyed it. So that is how I DEAL with the up-sell-a-thon types. Miss Dori got the message loud and clear as each other male she approached thereafter gave her a wide berth. Well for a little while.

Dori. Bu. Looks. Face 9/10, Body 9/10, Attitude 1/10, Performance 1/10.

2) Hillary. She of the 10/10 looks and better performance arrived after 5pm. Or this was the 1st time I noticed her and given my angry mood and circling prey in those newly cummed waters I decided to corner the "Hillary hot market" for a few hours. 90 minutes later after an intense CIM, COF, fucked right royally 5 ways to kingdom come and a lot of DATY, DFK, deep throat, you name it all, I was a very happy chappy again. The world was perfect and Artemis was Queen of the Night again IMHO. I paid Melody 350 euros including a good tip for the best sex I have had this year. Performance 10/10 Perfection.

3) Garbita. Ro. I waited a few hours to see if I could go again. I met a lass I have not been with before, nor noticed. Gabi (Garbita). She is on the website. She is a little Romanian lass but has a body style I like, thin but with some chunk. Had a standard 30 minute session and she was nice and relaxed about it all. Not great not bad but watching her riding CG is worth the entry level of 60 euros alone. Looks Face 8/10, Body 8/10, Attitude 8/10, Performance 65/100.

I have been doing some analysis of the global p4p market and basically have come to the conclusion that for the value I may as well just monger here in the FKKs or London where service for price is pretty much guaranteed. Maybe add in some known values in Morocco and PSE types in Budapest but outside of that the p4p market seems to have converged even in struggling shit holes like Bucharesti. Really finding reliable escorts for anything less than $100 per hour outside of a few gems written about within here in the vast bloggage or going for the riskier SW in Kurfersenstrasse etc is not worth my efforts any more.

My new conquests are on the languages websites and my 1st date from such is this Thu night in Berlin with a smoking hot Moldovan / Romanian lass of 30 years of age. I will report how it goes on the relevant Berlin site and add some pointers on the opportunities in this new growth market. Meanwhile, Obama won which is great for weapons businesses. So

"Party on Wayne"

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1351434]2) Hillary. She of the 10/10 looks and better performance arrived after 5pm. Or this was the 1st time I noticed her and given my angry mood and circling prey in those newly cummed waters I decided to corner the "Hillary hot market" for a few hours. 90 minutes later after an intense CIM, COF, fucked right royally 5 ways to kingdom come and a lot of DATY, DFK, deep throat, you name it all, I was a very happy chappy again. The world was perfect and Artemis was Queen of the Night again IMHO. I paid Melody 350 euros including a good tip for the best sex I have had this year. Performance 10/10 Perfection.[/QUOTE]Hi Belvaros,

I can't quite sum up the 350Eur pay for 90 min room time. Could you please break down the cost of extras and tip?

And why the hell did you pay Melody for Hillary's hard work :confused:

[QUOTE=Shah Khan; 1351941]Hi Belvaros,

I can't quite sum up the 350Eur pay for 90 min room time. Could you please break down the cost of extras and tip?

And why the hell did you pay Melody for Hillary's hard work :confused:[/QUOTE]Sorry, sessioned with blondie Hillary and 250 Euros, not 350 typo. 3 x 60 quid + 50 + 20 tip. Had Melody (brunette) on the brain for some reason.

[QUOTE=Shah Khan; 1351941]Hi Belvaros, .And why the hell did you pay Melody for Hillary's hard work :confused:[/QUOTE]Yes WTF indeed. Maybe she was just royally pissed off that El B could not even remember her name after all that stellar service, so she just piled on lots of extras. At least he did not call her Mommy (that's another 50 EUR).

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1351434]I agreed to go to the room with a new lass from Bulgaria-Moldova-whoknowswhere for ONE HOUR as long as it was just a 120 Euros straight sex a thon. This lass goes by the name of Dori. Or is it Doreen. Anyway. Somewhat dark skin of the deeply tanend or Arabic variety. Pretty face. Black hair and blue contacts. Cheeky grin on her mug.[/QUOTE]Sounds like the girl who approched us (Rocketboy and me) in the pool area during my visit in September. Do you remember her name RB?

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1352423]Sounds like the girl who approched us (Rocketboy and me) in the pool area during my visit in September. Do you remember her name RB?[/QUOTE]No-as she was not my type, I tend to blot these events out. To be honest, I was too busy looking at you, cuteypie. :eek:

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1352423]Sounds like the girl who approched us (Rocketboy and me) in the pool area during my visit in September. Do you remember her name RB?[/QUOTE]I usually jot names down right away in a little notebook I keep with my wallet so I am sure it was correct. Then again I have seen some girls at GT and Artemis who seem to change names at times. Is that your experience.

Anyway, struck out with the livemocha. Com approach as they are all NICE lasses so will head out today via Wien for Budapest.

Happy Holidays all

Finally time for Artemis, the premiere for me. However, a little experienced from other FKK as the Palace, Oase and World in and around Frankfurt.

The setup is similar, reception desk, entry paid 80euro, then equipped with slippers and bathrobes. After shower I am ready to play.

In my case, I started quietly with avoiding any eye contact and just make myself at home in the site premises. Found at last the dinner room serving breakfast and let me enjoy it.

The lounge, where most girls kept house was too smoky for me so I made way down to the sauna area instead. Enjoyed sauna, bathing and more showers, and politely rejected the proposals which occasionally came from the ladies who were patrolling the area. I had a feeling that I would not bother with so much on this day, so the strategy was to just go with the ladies who felt 100% right both in appearance and in manner. It would prove to work almost perfectly.

Got tired in the end of the scant supply and pulled me up. Whereupon I ran into a Russian girl named Ella, liking arose and we went to a room. A very affordable half hour with CIM. Ella was hot and gave one of the best blowjobs I ever got (bought).60 +50 Euro.

Then it was time for breakfast (again) and more sauna and splash. Sat for a while in the theater, though I think porn is extremely boring. In any case, the standard porn that normally appears on FKK. The advantage ofthe cinema is that it patrolled more frequently by girls. So here you can sit and look at them instead. Got tired in the end of boring pornos and went up to the smoky lounge. Looked for a while at a young petite girl how was completely to my taste. Unfortunately, despite repeated eye contact, she did not come up to me. So I sought her out instead. Arielle from Frankfurt. It was no frills, straight after that I visited, she wanted to go to the room. This was a warningsignal. She looked right out, but there was something in her attitude that bothered. Indeed, well up in the room it was a disaster, it ended with a nothing. 60euro spoiled.

Now I was a little worn and disappointed, so I sat on a sofa and read a bit. After a while I decided to make one last try, if unlucky I go to Monrouge instead. So I sat in the sex cinema and waited. Turned down all who came that I did not have that extra that I was looking for. Finally, a well built brunette appears, she immediately charmed me. Nina from Czech Republic. She gives me a great hour, and I think I will carry that memory with me for a long, long time. Sexy, beautiful, nice, incredibly talented. 120 euros.

E65

[QUOTE=Elve65;1353064]Whereupon I ran into a Russian girl named Ella, liking arose and we went to a room. A very affordable half hour with CIM. Ella was hot and gave one of the best blowjobs I ever got (bought).[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Elve65;1353064]Nina from Czech Republic. She gives me a great hour, and I think I will carry that memory with me for a long, long time. Sexy, beautiful, nice, incredibly talented. 120 euros.[/QUOTE]Congratulations. You went upstairs accompanied by two of Artemis' service queens. Good choice, chapeau!

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1352575]To be honest, I was too busy looking at you, cuteypie. :eek:[/QUOTE][url]Awww[/url], all I really wanted that day was to be your little jelly bean.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1353185]Congratulations. You went upstairs accompanied by two of Artemis' service queens. Good choice, chapeau![/QUOTE]Thank You, I feeling very happy to find these two very nice ladies. Actually, so nice, that I booked flight tickets to Berlin for late January. Hopefully I have a chance to a rematch with Nina. I think I love her.

By the way, if I want to meet Nina, what days and times are the best to find her?

E65

[QUOTE=Elve65;1353943]By the way, if I want to meet Nina, what days and times are the best to find her?[/QUOTE]Nina usually will be missed one day or two in a week only. There's a very good chance to meet her at Fridays and Saturdays. She starts working during early afternoon, it varies. But note: you can't generalise who will be there on a given day.

[QUOTE=Elve65;1353943]I think I love her.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I don't do so, but a lot of other mongers do. Now you know why.

[QUOTE=Elve65;1353943]Hopefully I have a chance to a rematch with Nina. I think I love her.[/QUOTE]Clever girl. She sucks the distance of New York Marathon each year, and still she manages to make each and every guy feel special. I love her too! :)

1) Has anyone experienced one of the black girls at Artemis?

2) Also, does Nina sometimes pretend to be German? Because she sounds like a girl at Artemis who really put in an effort (for example rimming without asking for it).

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1354025]Clever girl. She sucks the distance of New York Marathon each year, and still she manages to make each and every guy feel special. I love her too! :)[/QUOTE]Well to take nothing away from considerable reputations and "hard" work, Zimmerbaby's claim got me thinking-could it really be so?

Alas, no. The numbers (Little Joey would be proud of this) suggest that this would require gobbing over 1300 knobs per day.

The reality is more like 2-3 football pitches per year (depending upon assumptions-mine are I think a wee bit high).

[b]MUNCHING THE MARATHON[/b]

Distance in kms: 26.
Meters: 26, 000
Centimeters: 2,600,000

Guys doable length: 10 cm (how much can be effectively gobbed, and to make the math easier)

Implied total guys per year: 260,000

Working days /year: 200

Implied Guys per day: 1,300 or
in other words, I dewn't thinkseow.


[b]REALITY BITES[/b]

Guys per day: 15 (probably high but to prove the point..)

X 200 days / yr: 3,000 dudes.

X 10 cm per Dude: 30,000 cms, or 300 meters of mambo, per year.

Still, that is a fair bit of wurst. And indeed she seems none the wurst for wear.

Now for you quants - guess how many Olympic-sized swimming pools could be filled each year by the total spewing of sperm that goes on in the Love Bahnhoff?

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1354357]Well to take nothing away from considerable reputations and "hard" work, Zimmerbaby's claim got me thinking-could it really be so?

Alas, no. The numbers (Little Joey would be proud of this) suggest that this would require gobbing over 1300 knobs per day.

The reality is more like 2-3 football pitches per year (depending upon assumptions-mine are I think a wee bit high).

[b]MUNCHING THE MARATHON[/b]

Distance in kms: 26.

Meters: 26, 000

Centimeters: 2, 600, 000

Guys doable length: 10 cm (how much can be effectively gobbed, and to make the math easier)

Implied total guys per year: 260, 000.

Working days / year: 200

Implied Guys per day: 1, 300 or

In other words, I dewn't thinkseow.

[b]REALITY BITES[/b]

Guys per day: 15 (probably high but to prove the point.)

X 200 days / yr: 3, 000 dudes.

X 10 cm per Dude: 30, 000 cms, or 300 meters of mambo, per year.

Still, that is a fair bit of wurst. And indeed she seems none the wurst for wear.

Now for you quants. Guess how many Olympic-sized swimming pools could be filled each year by the total spewing of sperm that goes on in the Love Bahnhoff?[/QUOTE]I believe Nina has no problem taking 15 cm, and thinking 100 strokes per guy makes 15 meters per session. 15 guys / day and 200 days that makes 45000 meters= 45 kilometers. I think this is a better way of handling the math, or?

The houmour in this forum is like nothing else!

E65

Burning up his fuse up here alone.

A+

Depth of said pool please. Is it say 6 feet all the way down?

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1353185]Congratulations. You went upstairs accompanied by two of Artemis' service queens. Good choice, chapeau![/QUOTE]Ella and Nina are great, but who else are worth of visiting? Thnks =)

[QUOTE=Belvaros; 1354369]Burning up his fuse up here alone. A+

Depth of said pool please. Is it say 6 feet all the way down?[/QUOTE]B- RocketMan not = Rocketboy so the Sir Elton ref somewhat off. On the rest. Geeze I gots to do all the work. Wiki say 50 m X 25m X 2m. See [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic-size_swimming_pool[/url]. But (hint hint) the real number you need is further down in the article. That is the easy part. The critical assumptions needed are on quantities of all that giz.

Anyway, I can't stand the suspense so

1 pop of High Test Giz (all fluids)------ 0.005 liters (I looked it up and am as disappointed as you- it could be double this number but let's be conservative-see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ejaculation with some handy pix & vids!!)

Average Pops per man per day---------2 (even if low, does not change what cums out of this anal-ysis)
Total liters per man per day ------------0.01
Men / day-----------------------------------500 (might be low, but some only cum once so it is a wash (ha))
Total Liters loose at Artms/day----------5
Days/ year-----------------------------------362 allow for holidays
Total Liters of giz fiz /yr ------------------1810

Olympic Pool Volume in Liters 2,500,000

So, not even close. Depressing as I had higher hopes. But

Average Bathtub Volume in liters------250
which means 1810 liters / 250=

Bathtub-fulls at Arties/ yr ----------------- ~7+

The End


Elve65-I dunno about this counting each stroke stuff-seems like stretching the point (ha).

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1354449]B- RocketMan not = Rocketboy so the Sir Elton ref somewhat off. On the rest. Geeze I gots to do all the work. Wiki say 50 m X 25m X 2m. See.

But (hint hint) the real number you need is further down in the article. That is the easy part. The critical assumptions needed are on quantities of all that giz.

Elve65-I dunno about this counting each stroke stuff-seems like stretching the point (ha).[/QUOTE]Mate. I give everyone a nickname and yours is the obvious, better that than "You fat twat"

Love and peace my man.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1354449]Bathtub-fulls at Arties / yr - 7+[/QUOTE]Probably the same volume as the Jacuzi in the relax area just behind the showers. Never trusted that thing.

LOL.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1354454]Mate. I give everyone a nickname and yours is the obvious, better that than "You fat twat"Love and peace my man.[/QUOTE]Ah now I get it. It was a humorous comedy joke.

Economics:

500 men per day x 80 Euro = 40,000 E x 361 days = 14,440,000 Euro / year.

(Holy fuck!)



Ethics:

500 men/day x 4 finish x 361 days = 722000 babies never born.

(Shit!)

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1354570]Economics: 500 men per day x 80 Euro = 40,000 E x 361 days = 14,440,000 Euro / year. (Holy fuck!)[/QUOTE]Yes but remember it's only gross revenue. Then minus staff costs, massive laundry, electricity, and water bills, the upgrades (Poondorf, new T-Shirts, those pink sandals, burned out mattresses etc) and maintenance, and then them taxes.

Barely enough left to buy luxury cars.

[QUOTE]Ethics: 500 men/day x 4 finish x 361 days = 722000 babies never born. (Shit!)[/QUOTE]Z-not everyone produces your prodigious quantities of goo and 4 per day per dude seems heroically high.

Then there is the fact that them sperms don't always home in successfully like a baby makin drone (The Procreator?) to the egg. The real number has to be much lower. Plus, would we really want THOSE particular love chill'ens running around anyway? All (I include my damaged self in this) are behaving ethically, strengthening the gene pool, by not...

Yes yes this should be in the lounge. But, here it is.

Gadzooks-fresh off the factory line.

[url]http://www.truecompanion.com/tv/[/url]

The videos are must see tv, on several levels.

Will Artemis stock up on these, with one in each room of the new Poondorf wing?

Will they be less sharky than their human sisters?

Will they be lower maintenance?

[QUOTE=Simon Rex;1354250]1) Has anyone experience one of the black girls at Artemis?[/quote]AFAIR there's only one real [u]black girl [/u]in Artemis nowadays: Iman. Never went upstairs with her. There are some [u]brown girls[/u], too.

[QUOTE=Simon Rex;1354250]2) Also, does Nina sometimes pretend to be German? Because she sounds like a girl at Artemis who really put in an effort (for example rimming without asking for it).[/QUOTE]No. Didn't experience and didn't heard about it.

Tuesday. First visit to A since May. I was a bit worried about all the reports on things turning for the worse and didn't know exactly what to expect. Here my small report.

- Sharks hunting for prey. Check!

- Lots of fake tits. Check!

- My favourite girl absent. Check!

- Aggressive up-selling in the rooms. No, didn't get any of that.

But frankly, to me it's the same old place. Yes sure, you do get hassled by sharks, but this has been the same since my first visit so I can't say I notice any difference. You have to be ready to say no a few times (politely of course) and after a while they get the message and leave you alone. About the silicone tits, I hate them and find them a real turn-off and I always try to avoid the enhanced girls. However, as far as I can remember this has also been roughly the same over the last few years. Okay, maybe the ratio of fakes to real has increased a bit which is unfortunate and maybe you see more of the really laughable mega tits, but the difference isn't that huge compared to a couple of years ago (as far as I can tell in any case).

More worrying is that I never seem to be able to catch Fatima these days. Is it only my bad luck, or is she working more and more seldom?

Anyways, had three sessions, two fantastic and one less so, all of them in the same room downstairs (the one just behind the seats in the kino). Upstairs the room are too dark in my opinion. I want to see the pussy I'm eating and the ass I'm licking.

Nina. This girl gives me the greatest treatment every time! Friendly, beautiful, sexy and she senses exactly what I want at all time. I don't have to tell her anything, she just knows. The "squatting cowgirl" she performs just blows me away. Incredible!

Antonia from Romania. After some sauna and smoking in the back yard I was ready for another girl and spotted Antonia. Had a nice session with her on my last visit and when I saw her out-of-this-world firm round butt I didn't hesitate. Once again ecstatic sex. We were taking it really slow at first while I was exploring her body, and later I was so turned on I almost blacked out having her pussy lips covering my face in the greatest 69 ever! The memory will stay with me for a long time.

Had some dinner. It was getting kind of late and I couldn't find any more of my favourites so I thought OK lets roll the dice and see what happens. Had my eyes on the cutest and sexiest little girl I ever saw, Alexandra (Romania). I had talked to her on an earlier visit and knew that the reports on her wasn't that good, but what the heck I thought, if she is a pure optiflik so be it. After asking her if she wanted to go zimmer she said that she don't do any kissing and asked me if I was still interested. Good of her to warn me. I hesitated a bit but asked her if pussy eating was on the menu and she said sure no problem and I said sure then lets go! In the room she turned out to be exactly what I had expected from reading the reports. I hoped for more of course, but no luck. Now let me be clear here; that young super cute face, her absolutely perfect petite body with the softest skin and small firm tits to die for, and those eyes. That was all worth it. But her performance was really subpar. No responsiveness at all, mechanical blow job, and as soon as I wasn't in total control of the action she did everything to try to rush it. Asking her to get ontop was a mistake! I asked her more than once to slow down but she didn't listen. Even the joys of cunnilingus was dampened by an over due pussy shave. The contrast to the attitude and skills of the two previous girls couldn't be greater, but I have myself to blame, I pretty much knew what I was getting into. C'est la vie.

Tired. Rested for a while and was thinking of trying to find me one more girl to copulate with but instead I fell asleep on one of the sofas downstairs and was later thrown out by the staff at closing time.

All in all a great day and night at Artemis. Over and out.

/Dr Jekyll

[QUOTE=Dr Jekyll;1354879]More worrying is that I never seem to be able to catch Fatima these days. Is it only my bad luck, or is she working more and more seldom?[/QUOTE]It's only your bad luck. Fatima works in Artemis quite regulary.

[QUOTE=Dr Jekyll;1354879]More worrying is that I never seem to be able to catch Fatima these days. Is it only my bad luck, or is she working more and more seldom?[/QUOTE]As Mr. Suppenhuhn told ya: just a kind of bad luck. She was absent Tuesday only. You'll meet her in Artemis 'til mid December.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer; 1354828]AFAIR there's only one real [u]black girl [/u]in Artemis nowadays: Iman. Never went upstairs with her. There are some [u]brown girls[/u], too.

No. Didn't experience and didn't heard about it.[/QUOTE]OK. I was a bit tempted when I saw her (Iman) but decided not to go for it since there were others. Got to try everything once tough.

[QUOTE=Dr Jekyll; 1354879]Tuesday. First visit to A since May. I was a bit worried about all the reports on things turning for the worse and didn't know exactly what to expect. Here my small report.

- Sharks hunting for prey. Check!

- Lots of fake tits. Check!

- My favourite girl absent. Check!

- Aggressive up-selling in the rooms. No, didn't get any of that.

But frankly, to me it's the same old place. Yes sure, you do get hassled by sharks, but this has been the same since my first visit so I can't say I notice any difference. You have to be ready to say no a few times (politely of course) and after a while they get the message and leave you alone. About the silicone tits, I hate them and find them a real turn-off and I always try to avoid the enhanced girls. However, as far as I can remember this has also been roughly the same over the last few years.

All in all a great day and night at Artemis. Over and out.

/Dr Jekyll[/QUOTE]thanks for the report Dr Jekyll. That's my same feeling everytime I visit Artemis. Is the new area open?

Kimino

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1355157]As Mr. Suppenhuhn told ya: just a kind of bad luck. She was absent Tuesday only. You'll meet her in Artemis 'til mid December.[/QUOTE]She sucks like a hoover and jerks with real care. This is one of the best ones ever!

[QUOTE=Kimino;1355269]Is the new area open?[/QUOTE]No. (Ten characters needed.)

This place needs a bit of maintenance. The sofas are cracking up and some of the machines in the gym are broken. Hopefully the management will concentrate on this once the new section is open.

I found the line-up uninspiring with too many pushy girls and few pleasant personalities. I spent an hour with Jenna, who provided excellent reliable service. Following that I tried Susannah, a blonde Romanian with one Hungarian parent. She proved a disappointment with her attitude becoming very stroppy in the room. She had a lip stud, the inside of which interfered with the blow job and the rest of the service was uninspiring.

There were plenty of men in the club. I was told that this was because of a Berlin business event that weekend.

[QUOTE=London Traveller; 1355492]This place needs a bit of maintenance. The sofas are cracking up and some of the machines in the gym are broken. Hopefully the management will concentrate on this once the new section is open.

I found the line-up uninspiring with too many pushy girls and few pleasant personalities. .[/QUOTE]I wholeheartedly concur, London.

I was there on Monday (11/26)

The girls rush you to get in to the room, and some even when you get to the room to finish. The food is awful and the staff (particularly the bartenders) are rude. The lounge is so smokey that it is difficult to survive there. I woke up the next morning feel l with a sore throat and a cold coming on right before my flight.

And its damned pricy too. I blew about 400 Euro on four sessions.

Admittedly, the girls are very attractive and I did have 2 pleasant sessions with Cindy (slim blonde Pole with teen looks) and Denisa (Romanian brunette with creamy white skin). Both girls were sweet gave almost GFE.

But these were book-ended by two disappointing sessions. My first session with a curvy Blonde German girl (sorry the name escapes me, but she bore a striking resemblance to the US porn star Britney Madison) started off well with a nice BJ in the Kino followed up by decent sex in the Kino room. However I cut the session short after she complained I was taking too long to cum. What a buzkill!

My last session with Sarah (fair skinned Polish barbie doll) also turned out to be a mild disappointment. She was enthusiastic and full of energy. But her act was a bit contrived with too much fake moaning. I took her for an hour but forgot to take my watch and got shortchanged by her by at least 10 minutes. This left me with a bad feeling, even thought the session itself was not unpleasant.

The FKK magic seems to be gone here and other places. In the past you could get to know a girl a bit before heading up to the room. There was a lot of flirting, cuddling, fondling (and even making out) in the lounge before hand. For me this is why one goes to an FKK.

But this no longer happens here. Instead its just rush, rush, rush -- up to the room and then back down.

The place has turned into an Adelita's (in Tijuana) but with an 80 Euro cover. It's still fun and there are some real stunners to be had. But, IMHO, it is no longer a good value. There are better options in Berlin. You may be better off at a Bordel or in hitting the GB party at Erlebniswohnung (see my upcoming report).

Regulars who develop a rapport with the girls may have more fun, but they will be shelling out serious $$ to build up that GFE relationship.

I fear the FKK scene of the old days is dead. I hope I am wrong and just hit Artemis on a bad night.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V

Visited art for the second time, arrived straight from TXl (after 12 hr plane rides) to artemis at noon. This was first stop of my three day German punt tour. At noon on thurs, I thought the crowd was good. Lounge seemed busy, around 10 guys with about as many girls and a bunch with towels wrapped around. I stayed until 8PM and crowd on both sides steadily built up.

Based on my last trip (early July) , I was expecting sharking and being approached for sessions of all types, especially two girl ones. But as I entered the lounge, the vibe was very different. I could cruise through the lounge to the breakfast area without being approached a single time. In fact throughtout the stay, I was only approached a couple of time directly and those were gentle as well. Experienced no bad behavior and only inviting smiles from girls. Something changed in that department.

Breakfast fare was the usual low grade as I had expected from previous trip. This time I had fed myself at the airport before leaving for Art. Saw new area from the breakfast room. Only saw a couple of guys working there, probably in no rush to finish until winter is over.

As I had been building up sperm level for a week in anticipation of the trip, I was ready for a session and started hunting after 10 mins of familization of the area. Surveyed all the girls in the lounge area and saw a couple that I could start the trip with. However decided to just check downstairs first. As I was in the stairs area at reception level, encountered a magnificent girl coming downstairs from the play rooms floor. Dark, somewhat curly long hair, white thing around the waist (don't know what its called) , a pretty face and amazing body wearing glasses with dark colored frame. She was going to be it, so intercepted her at the entry to lounge. She is Francesca from Romania, been in Art for few months she said. Immediately asked her to go to room, sensed a slight hesistation but she accepted and picked a nice room upstairs. Don't remember the name, but it had high bed on a step. We discussed prices and she suggested all the extra fun I could have for a price. Not pushy, but sensed atleast one extra was expected. Not a problem, since I had planned to start the trip with CIM. We got into the groove, with some kissing, nipple, breast playing and gave her a bit of DATY. Then asked her to get to BBJ. Real nice work by her. Did some doggy and then asked for more BBJ standing up. Finished in her mouth. Had a great session with her, very nice enthusiastic girl. Chit chat in the room revealed that she actually lives upstairs at Art, which I didn't know about. According to her she works mostly nights, but watches the crowd through the day and gets into action when busy. She was actually coming down for breakfast before starting the day and hence the hesistation when I asked her for session. Paid 110E. I wanted to repeat her that day itself, but didn't see her much. Maybe went back upstairs or something to prep for the night.

After a downstairs nap and coffee, came back upstairs around 2PM. Crowds had grown, newer girls and many punters. Surveyed the lounge, saw a petite beautiful girl sitting with spanish speaking group of girls on a couch. Tried making eye contact and exchanged smiles, but she never budged from the group and I didn't have the balls to break into the group. Sitting on the couch facing the bar to survey the girls, noticed a curly haired girl sitting by the bar talking to another girl. Couldn't see her face well, so took a walk to get a closer look. As I was passing by, she smiled and signalled me over. She was very playful and interesting personality. Not the prettiest face or the hottest body but good overall with an inviting sexy smile. She started the conversation with, 'you like my curly hair' and we started introductions. She is Rafaella and kept saying she is from disneyland. Only after the session she admitted disneyland is not a real country and she is from Romania. She started asking me what all I wanted. Didn't feel any push or pressure but seemed there was a clear expectation that more than just a 60E session is desired. Anyway, next fantasy was anal so told her. She asked if I was sure and it is expensive (100E on top of 60). I think she wanted to check size before committing and don't think she is fully into it. We went to circular couches by the bar and pulled curtains. Light kissing, Had good BBJ, some doggy before exploring the tight ass. Nothing fantastic but good session overall.

Around 4PM ready for some more, I was standing in the upstairs kino. Zoey a red headed german came in and suggested that I need some help. I had seen her before during the day, nice looks, silicones and a bit older. We agreed to do it in the kino itself. Couple of guys and girls walked in on us. She was lot more upfornt about suggesting CIM finish. I told her, let see how it goes and got started. Pretty much PSE style, she went straight to sucking. A bit toothy and not what I like. Did mish and switched to doggy. As I was getting closer, I was humping faster and she sensed I was about to cum. In a matter of seconds (while my brain function was controlled by the penis) she turned around took of the condom and started sucking. Before I could realize I had squirted a few drops in her mouth for 50E. 110E, OK session mostly for the PSE fantasy, Kino, public sex etc. No regrets. While paying money, I saw her face much better and she is probably mid 30s.

At this point I was hungry and was contemplating leaving for dinner. Saw crowd building outside cafeteria. Realized dinner was about to start, I positioned myself in the line. Hot food was actually quite good. Rice, chicken curry, veggies etc. Chairs got busy pretty quick, so had a standing dinner. Satisfied, decided to stay back for some more time. Noticed a very beautiful girl laying on her tummy on the semicircular couches by the bar area. Dark hair, slightly squarish face, very gentle looks and smile. Went upto her, She is Denisa (don't think it's the one on the webiste pictures) from Romania and apparently at art for only last couple of months. She is somewhat quiet and passive. After a bit I suggested a session and we went to downstairs kino with BBJ. Great BBJ and she was putting her heart into it. After a bit we went to downstairs room, started with doggy but then went into mish. Watching her pretty face with eyes closed and soft expressions of enjoyment on her face just did it for me. She doesn't do much of kissing, just got light kisses on lips. Really liked this session, as she seemed different from most. Never suggested any extras. Just followed directions. No moaning grunting etc. Real or fake, she had some very sexy expressions of satisfaction on her face (closed eyes, biting lips slightly etc) while in the act. She actually seemed happy taking just the 60E, gave me a nice hug and kiss on cheeks. I thought something was wrong!

Left artemis after the session, fully spent and satisfied. I had doubts about it after the prior visit, but for whatever reason things seemed very different. Great selection, excellent vibe, no real sharkiness or a two girl offer and even dinner beat my expectations. Although, I had list of favs from this forum, had hard timing finding any of those. They may not have been there and the fast pace / crowd makes it harder. Not very useful for infrequent visitors I think. For americans, the names as said by europeans (especially eastern) sound very differnt than we would read it making it harder to relate.

Later in the trip I visited Oase and Palace (Saturday). Found comparisons previously made in the forum to be quite accurate. One thing I liked about artemis more than others is that the downstairs area allows for some real relaxation and napping. While making absolute comparison of lineup is impossible, girls of all choices were available at all three places. At all three places there were more girls I wanted to do than I had stamina or money for.

Back to my hotel, It was a great start to the german tour.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1355457](Ten characters needed.)[/QUOTE]Took me a while to figure it out. LOL.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1355147]It's only your bad luck. Fatima works in Artemis quite regulary.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pharisaer;1355157]As Mr. Suppenhuhn told ya: just a kind of bad luck. She was absent Tuesday only. You'll meet her in Artemis 'til mid December.[/QUOTE]Damn it! Well, thats both good news and incredibly annoying at the same time! In any case, thanks for the info guys.

By the way, have anyone met Daniella from Austria lately? I think she use to spend a month at Atremis each year, give or take, and it feels like it was about a year ago I saw her last.

[QUOTE=Dr Jekyll;1356255]By the way, have anyone met Daniella from Austria lately? I think she use to spend a month at Atremis each year, give or take, and it feels like it was about a year ago I saw her last.[/QUOTE]Quite correct, Danielle worked in Artemis last November or December, don't remember exactly.

Unfortunately I don't know where she's gone. She worked in FKK Paradise some months, but she disappeared there four or three weeks ago (didn't check it actually). Maybe there was no bed available for her, Artemis is crowed nowadays, and she's working elsewhere, maybe in Roermond.

[QUOTE=Dr Jekyll;1356255]By the way, have anyone met Daniella from Austria lately? I think she use to spend a month at Atremis each year, give or take, and it feels like it was about a year ago I saw her last.[/QUOTE]There were a couple of mentions of Daniella at Oase during the summer. I saw her at Artemis two years ago in December, so maybe Berlin is part of her regular schedule. I found her to be a superb companion and would possibly try and arrange a trip to Berlin if she re-appeared.

Visited Artemis Monday and Tuesday. (my 6th time there)

Monday quiet, Tuesday after 6 oclock good variety of girls.

First impression.

The blowjob is now a HANDJOB!

All grils try to finish you in such a way!

And I tried about 8-9 girls in these 2 days, so I don't think I was unlucky.

And many girls STOP the CIM when you start to finish and spit it out and this way ruining the orgasm and the 50 Euros extra!

The 2 top girls I saw were Belinda Russian model like brunette girl, nice body, about 25 yeras old with many years in Germany.

And a German stunner, brunnete, silikon boobs about 2, 5 size, looks like Romanian, amazing body, probably the best in there by far! She is from Cologne, very friendly and quite good in the job (DOES anybody remember her name? Maybe MELODY?)

RIP OFF FROM 2 GERMAN GIRLS-KANDY AND JANIN (both very tall blonde)

They told me that BLOWJOB MEANS HALF OF THE PENIS and that they want 100 EXTRA FOR THE REST! THAT is for deepthroat.

Ridiculous. I was so angry that I paid them 200 and let them go without finishing.

By the way, they both make the worst blowjob ever!

I also tried ANNA, Polish, shot red hair, green eyes.

Good girl, talkative, friendly and quite good in the room.

Despite the bad reviews, I also saw the Hungarian porn star alike with the big lips and tattoos (I think BRIGITA) , who was quite good in the room, but used a lot of hand for making blowjob.

Epimyth.

If you want a good, dirty, sloppy blowjob, you get a ROMANIAN girl!

I know many of you have very bad opinion of them, but I was never disappointed from them in Artemis.

After having a great time chatting, eating apple strudel and drinking coffee in a bar with Angus, Rocketboy and Zimmerbaby, we unfortunately had to split up and ZB and I took the bus towards Artemis. Arrived around 5 and looked around a bit, waiting for the second shift and deciding who to pick. I personally plyed quite safe picking Brigitta, Hungarian, blonde big fake tits, lot's of tatoos, piercing on upper lip, very cute. I already met her before and had a nice session with her. I recommend her.

For the gamble, I picked a very cute and young looking girl called Alexandra. I saw her on my previous visit but she is relatively new. Long light brown hair, quite small, nice ass. The session was so so, I felt quite a lot of distance between us. Her service was ok, no kissing but fine with DATY. She eventually came and that was the only moment where she let herself go. Maybe something with me, don't know, but we didn't clicked. So I won't repeat but maybe other could be more lucky.

Then Nina came up to introduce a friend of her, Nicole. Blonde, quite tall, beautiful body. I saw her a couple of times but when I finally decided to ty her she had vanished. I will try her tomorrow.

To close the evening a wonderful hour with Esther, enough said on her, currently one of my favorites. Recommended.

Finally figured out who Fatima is, with the help of ZB. I've been seeing her since ever but I wouldn't pick her, not attractive for me.

Place was quite calm when we arrived but a bit crowded around midnight. Food quite good this time.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino;1357231]Then Nina came up to introduce a friend of her, Nicole. Blonde, quite tall, beautiful body. I saw her a couple of times but when I finally decided to ty her she had vanished. I will try her tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Nicole is top notch in my experience. Not quite as customer oriented as is Nina but still very good. And she is younger and has the better body IMO.

AM

Report will be written later, but Monday was very good, Wednesday was spectacular.

Thank you Antonia (ROM) , Maya (POL) , Yara (GER) , Nathaly (ROM) and Viola (RUS).

I love you Viola.

After a 6 months of break I got back to the ARTEMIS scene on 1-2-3 December. And again was in the same mood of excitement like in the first time.

F&304; rst day: in the first day I arrived at around 18:00 and the club was quite crowded as I was firstly in the queue at the enterance after the preperation I was again realised how I missed the club and started to analize the changes, similarities, my favourites and the new ones. During this period of course was aoroached by more than 15 girls some of whom remembered me and some made thein introduction. And was happy to see and talk again with my earlier experiences such as FATIMA, ANTONIA, KARLA, LOREDANA, SHEENNYA, SHARON, HANNA.

First Girl:Tiny angelic face beauty LOREDANA made me excited again immidiately so the opening ceremony was with her for 1 hour. Topclass action made the two sides reach the climax; always recommended.

Second girl: the girl who has one of the sweetest asses and best kissing. KARLA with her new hairstyle (cut and dyed blonde) again made me fly; always recommended I left the club at about 00:00 because there was an italian invasion and I did not want to stay in the queue for another session.

2 nd day: The opening of the day was with a mature looking but very beautiful face girl (she said she is 27) NATASHA from ukraine. I noticed her the previous night she tried to get my attention around the upstairs bar with her nice little ass but I was targetting other girls, this time she came and sat next to me without talking for 10 minutes after that she touched me and smiled with her beautiful eyes and when I started to say her good words about her beauty with my tolerable Russian language she was so surprised and became more and more bautiful and hot to me so this condition made us running upstairs into one of the most unforgetable sessions of my fkk experinces.

Day-2 girl-2. :was unexpressablly beautiful face, long blonde with deep green eyes natural breasts and tight ass IONELDA (YONELDA?) from Romania I remmembered her from the old artemis nights and feel myself stupid how I did never try her. So I was proud with myself to choose her this time after the session beacuse she was so propotionally beautiful in every part of her body and soul. She was not only wonderful in face body or action also in character.

So after meet and action with an angel; YONELDA I decided to finish the night because no girl after her could satisfy me.

Day. 3 so all the night and next day I was all in dreaming of YONELDA so the third day of artemis trip was meant to see her again for me but she has said that she was starting to appear after 21:00 that I did not keep in mind so went to the club around 17:00.

While I was just expecting to go with YONELDA again MELODY 23 year old brunette german girl with magnificent tits and ass made me excited. She aproached me with her friend Ceyda in the previous night was seemed to act sharkly so I did not go with them, this time she was alone and aproached me so kindly that I offered her to go to room and in the room she was very passionate except kissing (no kissing) but very allertable to DATY and fucking her in cowgirl, missionary and finally doggy was legendry after the action we thanked to each other for making each other feel the climax.

So after a big wait Yonelda apeared again around 22:00 to made me the happiest man in the club while I was speaking with her best friend and again the action was so good to make me dream about her up to the next ARTEMIS visit.

So the Star of this trip was Yonelda without any doubts. I was expecting to see IVY the baby face german beauty but she was all absent during my 3 day trip. Does anyone knows about her?

Soledad: sexy body, horrible voice. Please, do not sing while using the infrastructure and interiors at Artemis. Please!

[QUOTE=Shinai;1357368]was unexpressablly beautiful face, long blonde with deep green eyes natural breasts and tight ass IONELDA (YONELDA?) from Romania I remmembered her from the old artemis nights and feel myself stupid how I did never try her.[/QUOTE]Call her: Ionella (without "D").

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1357459]Soledad: horrible voice.[/QUOTE]Agree.

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1357459]Soledad: sexy body.[/QUOTE]Disagree.

[QUOTE=Dim Yann; 1357116]RIP OFF FROM 2 GERMAN GIRLS-KANDY AND JANIN (both very tall blonde)

They told me that BLOWJOB MEANS HALF OF THE PENIS and that they want 100 EXTRA FOR THE REST! THAT is for deepthroat.

Ridiculous. I was so angry that I paid them 200 and let them go without finishing.[/QUOTE]Don't know where you find these girls at Artemis. I have had my share of lack luster sessions to be sure. But girls charging bjs by the inch is beyond belief. Good for you for cutting the session short. You should have gone a step further and calmly reported the two to the desk.

IMO.

AM

[QUOTE=Dim Yann;1357116]I paid them 200 and let them go without finishing.[/QUOTE]That is ridiculous. You can pay me 100 anytime, and I won't finish you either.

Like Angus sayze, when you cum across this nonsense, just stop the session, leave and report it immediately to management. Don't pay a thing til you do.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1357496]Don't pay a thing til you do.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dim Yann;1357116]I was so angry that I paid them 200 and let them go without finishing..[/QUOTE]

Took me a while to realise this but I have to ask-how on earth did they get to €200 anyway? Assuming you were in the room for less than half an hour, and you did not cum, the most this should have been charged is €120 and even that is disputable considering. BBBJ with no cim is included in the base price of €60 / half hour / girl. If they tried and failed to get you to agree to an extra for deep throat, how did you end up paying €200.

Something is not right with this report.

AM

If this happened on Monday, I saw a man with angry looks giving 200 E to the mentioned girls without a single word, no goodbye or anything. I can understand you being upset, but 200?

I actually rebuffed an attempt from these girls, even though I was tempted by Janine. I approached also blond Lea with big tight ass, but since she started upselling before she gave me her name, I told her I was disappointed with her attitude and left. This was in the main lounge. Control is the key, I've started asking every girl directly before any session; are you a nice girl in the room, or do I have to buy several products to make you smile. Then the combination of answer and bodylanguage makes life much easier. My strategy may not have been scientifically tested in randomized blind test studies, but it does the job for me.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1357506]Took me a while to realise this but I have to ask-how on earth did they get to €200 anyway? Assuming you were in the room for less than half an hour, and you did not cum, the most this should have been charged is €120 and even that is disputable considering. BBBJ with no cim is included in the base price of €60 / half hour / girl. If they tried and failed to get you to agree to an extra for deep throat, how did you end up paying €200.

Something is not right with this report.

AM[/QUOTE]Its simple.

60+60 for each girl.

Plus 100 for a ridiculous lesbian show that lasted 30 seconds.

220, because of my anger they took 200 and that was it.

THESE girls tried to upsell everything, even the air I breathed!

They both did a ridiculous blowjob, only taking 1/10 of the penis and the rest was hand. Plus some fake moaning.

Next day, one gay went up with Janin and I saw him coming down the stairs afte 6-7 minutes!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1357494]Don't know where you find these girls at Artemis. I have had my share of lack luster sessions to be sure. But girls charging bjs by the inch is beyond belief. Good for you for cutting the session short. You should have gone a step further and calmly reported the two to the desk.

IMO.

AM[/QUOTE]I went to the desk my friend later.

I took a girl to help me with German language.

The receptionist said "oh what can I do now, sorry, these things happen". Etc. Next day both girls were there.

Anyway, it is little embarassing to complain for a bad blowjob! And MANY other girls said that YES DEEPTHROAT is extra fro some girls!

And of course every time you complain, you have a huge disadvantage.

HOW you prove what happened in the room?

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1357521]If this happened on Monday, I saw a man with angry looks giving 200 E to the mentioned girls without a single word, no goodbye or anything. I can understand you being upset, but 200?[/QUOTE]99% was me. Yes Monday.

The problem is that because especially Janin is very tall and attractive, many many people will fall in her trap.

And I don't think is easy to judge by the attitude in the bar.

I saw one girl, very beautiful, who sat angry and without a smile all the time. It was Belinda.

I was afraid that she would be bad in the room, but she was very friendly indeed.

Sorry for your bad experience, at least each time makes you stronger. What more to say? Cheer up mate!

By the way, Janine looks like blond Hamburg Jane, but with tatooes. I've never seen them at A at the same time. Are they twins? At lest Jane is very honest and gives very good service.

Happy Friday lads!

Z

Kind of crowded yesterday. At a certain point (around 23:00) nowhere to sit in the main room. Saw that only in messe times.

Confirm what Angus said about Nicole. She is really hot, spent an hour with her. She started out quite badly asking "What you want to do?" a la Palace, told her I will think about it during the session and all went fine. Extras available. Recommended.

Marsha, already reported, highly recommended, speaks very little english, stayed 30min, plain vanilla, great fun. Also recommended.

After about six months without picking her, I decided for Laura, Hungarian, dark hair, she is well known. Stayed one hour, in the room downstairs as all others were full with people waiting. Again highly recommended.

That's it for this round.

Kimino (singing with the Hippies).

[QUOTE=Kimino;1357747]Confirm what Angus said about Nicole. She is really hot, spent an hour with her. She started out quite badly asking "What you want to do?" a la Palace, told her I will think about it during the session and all went fine. Extras available. Recommended.[/QUOTE]This was more or less my experience too. I actually spoke with her about it and she told me that most guys want to get this straight before hand. But when I told her we should wing it, she was seemingly just as happy to do that. My feeling about her is that she is as good as Nina but her service is less seamless. That is with Nina it is easy to forget that you are not with a girlfriend. Nicole does everything just as well but does not know yet how to make it seem spontaneous. Her BJ though is quite divine and indeed one of the best I have ever had.

AM

[QUOTE=Dim Yann;1357553]HOW you prove what happened in the room?[/QUOTE]Well from the sounds of it it would be unlikely that you get any money back on this one. A poorly executed BJ is not indeed grounds for not paying the girls. I guess I would have played it more just to register you displeasure at having hustlers like this at Artemis. It will not give you any immediate satisfaction but it will let the management know that you are not happy. This does, despite what some might think, count for something.

As for how to keep it from happening again-you do take a risk every time you head up those stairs that the session will be shit. But heading up with two girls who were prowling the carpets selling their duo sort of doubles your chances of this happening. Were I approached like this, and were I tempted, I would take a good long while to say yes. During this time there had better be some chemistry and I had better not feel their pressure to decide. In short they would have to spend some time seducing me. If they had no patience for this, I would let them go on their way. Girls who prowl in duos are almost always a waste of time. If either of them were any good they would be plying their trade alone, only calling the other girl if a guy asked specifically about a duo.

I guess this deep throat as extra BS is a sign of the times. I remember Conchetta, the self described deep throat queen, swallowing little Angus up to the root, finishing him on her breasts, kissing me sweetly and thanking me for the €60 I offered for the half hour service.

Live and learn, Sorry that you had such and expensive lesson.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1357494]You should have gone a step further and calmly reported the two to the desk.[/QUOTE]Sorry, Sir Angus, it won't help reporting them to the desk. Can't say anything about Candy, but Janine (or Janin as Mr. Dim Yann called her) is well known for ripping off customers. AFAIR Mr. The Limey reported her ripping him off some months ago.

[QUOTE=Dim Yann;1357553]The receptionist said "oh what can I do now, sorry, these things happen". Etc. Next day both girls were there.[/QUOTE]As I told: It won't help. Maybe, if you're a regular. No chance, if you're a casual customer.

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1357694]By the way, Janine looks like blond Hamburg Jane, but with tatooes. I've never seen them at A at the same time. Are they twins?[/QUOTE]OMG. No twins.

It is whispered that she's back in FKK Paradise since yesterday. I'm afraid, she won't visit Berlin in 2012.

No need to whisper, she's listed as working today on Paradise's homepage:

[url]http://the-paradise.de/m/?l=single_girl&id=534[/url]

HB

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1357843]You do take a risk every time you head up those stairs that the session will be shit. But heading up with two girls who were prowling the carpets selling their duo sort of doubles your chances of this happening. Were I approached like this, and were I tempted, I would take a good long while to say yes. During this time there had better be some chemistry and I had better not feel their pressure to decide. In short they would have to spend some time seducing me. If they had no patience for this, I would let them go on their way. Girls who prowl in duos are almost always a waste of time. If either of them were any good they would be plying their trade alone, only calling the other girl if a guy asked specifically about a duo.

Live and learn, Sorry that you had such and expensive lesson.

AM[/QUOTE]Sound words of wisdom gained through substantial years of experience.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1357854]It is whispered that she's back in FKK Paradise since yesterday. I'm afraid, she won't visit Berlin in 2012.[/QUOTE]Did she used to be in Artemis 3/4 years ago? I remember vaguely an austrian girl at that time, she was kind of skinny, I think blonde, was telling me she used to work in Klagenfurt in high class clubs or something. When we first met she bounced me telling she wouldn't go with italians, period. Then I talked out of that crap and she became kind of friendly, we chatted a lot, had some sessions with her, not terrific. At least 2 years I don't see her at Art. Maybe it's another girl.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1357881]Did she used to be in Artemis 3/4 years ago? I remember vaguely an austrian girl at that time, she was kind of skinny, I think blonde, was telling me she used to work in Klagenfurt in high class clubs or something. When we first met she bounced me telling she wouldn't go with italians, period. Then I talked out of that crap and she became kind of friendly, we chatted a lot, had some sessions with her, not terrific. At least 2 years I don't see her at Art. Maybe it's another girl.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Don't know if she used to work in Klagenfurt. AFAIR she worked in Artemis last fall just before Christmas and late summer or fall 2010, too. She's bottleblond, skinny, with very light skin. Small tits. Special voice, but not as special as Soledads.

[QUOTE=Kimino;1357881]Did she used to be in Artemis 3/4 years ago? I remember vaguely an austrian girl at that time, she was kind of skinny, I think blonde, was telling me she used to work in Klagenfurt in high class clubs or something.[/QUOTE]Could be possible as there is a branch of the uber-pricey Babylon Club, just outside Klagenfurt...

[QUOTE=Kimino;1357231]For the gamble, I picked a very cute and young looking girl called Alexandra. I saw her on my previous visit but she is relatively new. Long light brown hair, quite small, nice ass. The session was so so, I felt quite a lot of distance between us. Her service was ok, no kissing but fine with DATY. She eventually came and that was the only moment where she let herself go. Maybe something with me, don't know, but we didn't clicked. So I won't repeat but maybe other could be more lucky.[/QUOTE]She is very cute indeed but I had the same experience as you and if I remember correctly also other people in this forum.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1357881]Did she used to be in Artemis 3/4 years ago? I remember vaguely an austrian girl at that time, she was kind of skinny, I think blonde, was telling me she used to work in Klagenfurt in high class clubs or something. When we first met she bounced me telling she wouldn't go with italians, period. Then I talked out of that crap and she became kind of friendly, we chatted a lot, had some sessions with her, not terrific. At least 2 years I don't see her at Art. Maybe it's another girl.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Don't know about her attitude towards Italians, but the description (blond and skinny) sounds like her.

I recently had my 1st mongering experience and I will report on artemis visit later as I am traveling. In the mean while, I was wondering if girls at artemis are tested for STDs and if yes, how regularly? Reason I ask is I got BBBJ from one girl and CIM from another and now I am freaking out. I should have asked this question before I was stupid to have done it without asking.

From RTFF, I see a lot of mongers get BBBJ but no one talks about getting infected.

NewbiewMonger

[QUOTE=NewbieMonger; 1359217]I recently had my 1st mongering experience and I will report on artemis visit later as I am traveling. In the mean while, I was wondering if girls at artemis are tested for STDs and if yes, how regularly? Reason I ask is I got BBBJ from one girl and CIM from another and now I am freaking out. I should have asked this question before I was stupid to have done it without asking.

From RTFF, I see a lot of mongers get BBBJ but no one talks about getting infected.

NewbiewMonger[/QUOTE]There is a MD at Artemis and the girls get tests though I can not say really just how regular it is. Likely once every few months unless so symptom appear.

I would not freak out too much. Unless you yourself have symptoms of something it is unlikely that you caught anything and even more unlikely anything really serious. But if you must go see a doctor and in future use condoms if you can not take the chance.

AM

[QUOTE]I got BBBJ from one girl and CIM from another and now I am freaking out. I should have asked this question before I was stupid to have done it without asking.

From RTFF, I see a lot of mongers get BBBJ but no one talks about getting infected.[/QUOTE]Newbie. We have been thinking about starting a new thread call "Infections"-stay tuned. Once this gets going it will spawn some sort of Google map showing the spread of the dread. Actually if you do RTFF, there are occasional discussions about this and claims about that, but they are of dubious scientifical [sic] value, like. Same with the "testing" - it is I believe supposed to be every 3 weeks per girl, I think the Arts gang does make a real effort to do this, probably prodded by the local authorities as well, but obviously who knows. And if a test shows all good, and the next hour, some nasty bug bites and it gets to incubate for several weeks, and the carrier is not aware and and and - well you see how fun it can quickly get.

Next time, as you have learned, you could just ask the girls before getting too gushy in the mushy, first- if they have any infections? Or, when they were last inspected by Herr Doktor? Or maybe not. Plus, think what you might have given them, mixin' it up and stirring all those different stews, the way you do. It is all just shocking. Shocking I say.

There are 3 schools of thought on all this. 1 / there are real risks of STDs via oral sex and all parts should be covered 2 / saliva is nevertheless a potent defense mechanism and the risks while not 0 are low 3 / fuggedabowdit as all the scarey stuff is just propaganda and we Gods are immortal a la the lovable Prof. Wanking, his posse, and SwingerLover e (a) t al. You must choose from where you will get your diploma, and whether or not to at least wear a condom during oral sex.

That millions of dudes are getting their knobs gobbed , and the frauleins doing (by some of our own recent highly [scientifical] estimates up between 300 meters to 45 km of cock per girl per year!!!) are all in one place, and all are not dead or in some serious clinic is I think a positive sign.

This glue-sniffing is reaching epidemic proportions. As dass Dude said elsewhere, this is a compliment.

Going to be in Berlin for a few days from New Years, and looking for a bit of fun times. I was thinking I like the "bang" for the buck of the flatrate places (Caligula or King George) but the more I hear about Artemis the more this seems like a better bet. Am I going to get a better experience here than KG guaranteed? Also. Anyone have any idea what it will be like in the New Year? I know it's closed on the 1st, and open on the 2nd from 6pm. I was thinking of going on the 4th, which is a Monday. Do you think it will be quiet and they'll be more. Attentive? Or is it always busy as fuck around that time of year? Or am I maybe better off going in the Sunday? Anyone have any idea?

[QUOTE=NaughtyDog;1359678]Going to be in Berlin for a few days from New Years, and looking for a bit of fun times. I was thinking I like the "bang" for the buck of the flatrate places (Caligula or King George) but the more I hear about Artemis the more this seems like a better bet. Am I going to get a better experience here than KG guaranteed? Also. Anyone have any idea what it will be like in the New Year? I know it's closed on the 1st, and open on the 2nd from 6pm. I was thinking of going on the 4th, which is a Monday. Do you think it will be quiet and they'll be more. Attentive? Or is it always busy as fuck around that time of year? Or am I maybe better off going in the Sunday? Anyone have any idea?[/QUOTE]It is hard to compare the two experiences. The only thing a flat rate has going for it is price unless you specifically like sleaze. Artemis will cost more but you have a much better chance of finding a decent fuck, but you still have to use good sense.

The week after NY eve will be slow. Girls start drifting back as the week progresses but it will not be at full strength until probably the second, even third week in January.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1359313]There is a MD at Artemis and the girls get tests though I can not say really just how regular it is. Likely once every few months unless so symptom appear.

I would not freak out too much. Unless you yourself have symptoms of something it is unlikely that you caught anything and even more unlikely anything really serious. But if you must go see a doctor and in future use condoms if you can not take the chance.

AM[/QUOTE]I think you are right, he should not freak out.

However there is a risk getting a BBBJ. I got an STD that way when I visited Berlin, if it was from a girl in Artemis or a girl from a ordinary mid- to high end brothel, I don't know? It was fairly easy to treat with antibiotics. Some STD:s are easier to contract than others when getting a uncovered blowjob. If the risk of getting something untreatable was high, I don't think the girls would be sucking dicks without rubber. Worst case scenario is getting syphilis [undetected it can get really nasty] or herpes if you get outbreaks. If you are in a relationship, use a condom. Otherwise way in the pros and cons.

Sorry for my bad english.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1359446]There are 3 schools of thought on all this. 1 / there are real risks of STDs via oral sex and all parts should be covered 2 / saliva is nevertheless a potent defense mechanism and the risks while not 0 are low 3 / fuggedabowdit as all the scarey stuff is just propaganda and we Gods are immortal a la the lovable Prof. Wanking, his posse, and SwingerLover e (a) t al. You must choose from where you will get your diploma, and whether or not to at least wear a condom during oral sex.[/QUOTE]First: We gods are immortal! God created man as his equal, therefore we are equally immortal. Whoever thinks that material life on earth is the peak of existence doesn't seem to have given religion and life in general much thought yet. Surely god didn't create man as his equal to live his life in fear of everything under the sun. So much for the spiritual part.

Which brings us to Second: The material part. I never said to fuggedabowdit and that it's JUST propaganda. But the propaganda and hysteria about STDs in Germany is blown way out of proportion in Germany. Look at how many people die every year from smoking, drinking, car accidents, wrong treatment in hospitals or as last year from eating EHEC-infested salads. Then look at the number of STD-victims. If you apply the STD-hysteria to everything else in the same magnitude, then nearly everybody must die of fear about getting lung or liver cancer from smoking and drinking, drive around in armoured cars if at all and stay the hell away from hospitals and doctors. Nobody gives a shit about any of this, yet about STDs, they make a great fuzz, only exceeded about the fuzz regarding terrorism-hysteria and the global-warming-humbug.

Third: That saliva should be a potent defense mechanism is questionable. If it were, then all STDs could be cured by giving massively concentrated dosages of saliva-extract to all infected. Also, saliva doesn't protect from any other germs in, let's say, spoiled food; so why should it protect against STDs? Although I suppose anything is possible, maybe having to do with the relatively high pH-value of saliva.

Fourth: Yes, the Prof. Dr. Wanking is indeed loveable, as I have met him just last week. At a bareback party of course. And yes, you will have to choose where "to get your diploma" and decide what to do for yourself. Getting the "diploma" from the mass media is the worst you can do IMO. They know about nothing correctly, but know everything better; it has been like this since the medieval when everybody "knew" that the earth was flat and the sun revolved around it. And everybody who suggested otherwise was a heretic according to what was the mass media back then.

To summarize: Do what you want. But stop living your life in fear, especially about stuff where there's nothing to worry about (like the global-warming-hoax) or where the risk is much lower (STDs) than in other areas about which you don't give a fuck (like travelling, smoking or being struck by lightning). And one more thing: Who cares about all the bareback sex happening outside of Sex-Clubs, sexparties and such events? Judging from the amount of unwanted pregnancies every year, there must be a dark figure (an estimated number of unreported cases) of bareback sex outside paid-sex-venues about which also nobody cares at all. Given that, nearly the entire population should be disease-ridden by now, yet they are not. Which brings us back around to the beginning: Yes, there is the remote possibility of STDs, even though Gangbang-Natascha is bareback-fucking herself around the world for decades and is still alive and well; there's also the remote chance of a plane crash when travelling from or to Hoormany. So common sense in risk assessment might help against unnecessary fear, but that's something everybody needs to do for himself too.

[QUOTE=NewbieMonger;1359217]I got BBBJ from one girl and CIM from another and now I am freaking out.[/QUOTE]When I read something like this, I can't help but think that some people must enjoy living their life in fear of everything the media propaganda declares as dangerous. You stated in your post that you are travelling right now. How come you're not freaking out about the dangers of travelling? In overall fatalities it's way more dangerous than having bareback sex, especially having the sex at a club.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1360173]First: We gods are immortal! God created man as his equal, therefore we are equally immortal.[/QUOTE]Well, as you see, this clears it all up. I somehow always had a feeling that attitudes about bareback sex, global warming, medieval heresy were linked, but I could never quite put my finger on it.

But as we have been here before, lest the Forum goes haywire, let us just move on, or take it to the Lounge.

(Wait. Wait, what is that sound, the muddled thumping in the background, oh no, it's a squadron of black helicopters ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh) :eek:

As far as I can see the fear most mongers (or at least many) have around STDs has little to do with dying. The lesser infections can be easily cured if caught quickly but they can easily be transfered to w wife or partner and that will mean said monger has some 'splaining to do.

Likewise HIV, while a very serious condition, is not quite so final a death sentence as it was 30 years ago. But it would mean a drastic change in any person's lifestyle and the stigma of being HIV positive is still great. I think that the fear that so engulfs the general population is caused more by these factors than the actual "facts" of infection. Like the fact that traveling by car on a highway is statistically far more dangerous than air travel yet people are generally more afraid of air travel.

I think SL is correct in pointing out that the media whips people into a frenzy of fear around STDs and it puts me in mind of a Buddhist parable.

A young monk is troubled and asks for an audience one day with his master.

"What is troubling you?" asks the master to the novice.

"Master, I have studied and meditated long hours and listened to the talks given by many wise men. I have understood that we are but temporary manifestations and can prove by the logic of the ages that samsara is the truth of the soul and that all is Maya, my body is an illusion my..."

The master's hand snakes out in an open handed slap and strikes the novice a slap across the face.

"Correct" he said softly,"Now tell me, what hurts?"

AM

[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1360173]First: We gods are immortal! God created man as his equal, therefore we are equally immortal. Whoever thinks that material life on earth is the peak of existence doesn't seem to have given religion and life in general much thought yet. Surely god didn't create man as his equal to live his life in fear of everything under the sun. So much for the spiritual part.

When I read something like this, I can't help but think that some people must enjoy living their life in fear of everything the media propaganda declares as dangerous. You stated in your post that you are travelling right now. How come you're not freaking out about the dangers of travelling? In overall fatalities it's way more dangerous than having bareback sex, especially having the sex at a club.[/QUOTE]Thanks Swinger for the clarification because I had a hard time comprehending the 3 schools of thought by Rocketboy. I have to agree with you on hysteria about STDs everywhere in the world and "stop living your life in fear"

I will be reporting on my experienceatArtemis very shortly.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1360189]As far as I can see the fear most mongers (or at least many) have around STDs has little to do with dying. The lesser infections can be easily cured if caught quickly but they can easily be transfered to w wife or partner and that will mean said monger has some 'splaining to do.[/QUOTE]Well, that's an explanation I could accept. How does a married monger explain to his wife where he had gotten, let's say, gonorrhea. But that's not usually the fear on most people's mind. And what also no one seems to worry about is the more common 'mishap' of an unwanted pregnancy. I don't recall ever seeing or hearing anything about this matter on the mass media.

NewbieMonger: You're welcome.

RB: Not necessary to mobilize black helicopter squadrons as long as the vast majority of the people still falls for the propaganda. Strangely there seems to be some fear regarding black helicopters too, which IMO is even more misplaced than the STD-fear in Germany.

Drive safely!

I was absent from Artemis for about 6 month and then about 2 weeks ago had a chance to visit Artemis again and spent 3 days of fun.

Day 1:

[b]Nina[/b]: After some relaxing and sauna I was sitting at the coach in the left side of main bar entrance where I saw Nina entered the area, walked until she reached the middle of the bar then suddenly stopped and made a 180 degrees turn and pointed at me. She is a pro and I was amazed by her scoutings skills. She is one of my favorites and she is the best kisser I know in Artemis. After some talk on the coach we hit for the room and spend ½ hour with lot of dfk, BBBJ (which she also masters) and then sex in different pos.

Face: 8

Body: 8.

Attitude: 10.

Service: 10.

Like: dfk, BBBJ, GFE.

Dislike: nothing.

[b]Ruby[/b]: dark blond hair, tall, beautiful face, the best ass in the Artemis. She was new to me and I was a little bit afraid that she would be ice queen in the room as she has the body and face. After some chat we went to the room. I had a good time with her with dfk, BBBJ and mpos. Sex.

Face: 9.

Body: 9 (whould have been 10 if her boobs were not man made)

Attitude: 10.

Service: 9.

Like: dfk, GFE, her perfectly shaped ass.

Dislike: nothing.

[b]Daisy[/b]: GER, blond hair, colored flower tattoo from the back of her neck down to her thighs. Went with her to the room and she asked for how long I want to stay. I said that we can begun with ½ hour and I may extend if we were not finished by then. I think she got a little upset as in my last visit I spent 1 hour with anal with her. But she didn't decreased her service level.

Face: 8.

Body: 8 (she has got new silicon breasts)

Attitude: 10.

Service 9.

Like: dfk, CG.

Dislike: scares from her breast surgery.

[b]Adelina[/b]: short dark blond hair, tattoo above her left breast, beautiful face, natural be-cups. I think she has lost some weight since I saw her and she was looking good. Had good time with her at the room.

Face: 9.

Body: 8.

Attitude: 9.

Service: 9.

Like: dfk, her face expression while having sex.

Dislike:

Day 2:

[b]Ruby[/b]: Repeated again with her as I couldn't get enough of her beautiful ass. Unfortunately she doesn't do anal. She was good but I couldn't finish (came directly to Artemis from a B2B massage at euphorie) so stopped the session after ½ hour.

[b]Martina[/b]: Moldavian, dark hair, around 1. 60, slim. I have been with her before and had to try her again. Very good session.

Face: 7.

Body: 8.

Attitude: 9.

Service: 9.

Like: smile, petite body

Dislike:

[b]Carla[/b]: dark blond, tanned slim body, around 170. At my last trip she was missing and if I remember correctly Kimino reported that she was quitting for good. There is two girl on the Artemis's website and they have only pictures together, one is Carla and other is Karla. I think Kimino meant the other one "Karla". So I was gladly surprised when I saw her. I immediately took her to the room and we spent a very slow love making for an hour.

Face: 9.

Body: 9.

Attitude: 10.

Service: 10.

Like: everything.

Dislike: still thinking of her.

[b]Aforda? [/b]: Turkish, long black hair, tall. She approached me many times in those two days and every time I declined. She came and sit again beside me and after some talk I told her that I am not able to go to the room again for the day. Then there was a quiet time of 25-30 minutes where she just lay her head on my shoulder and didn't say anything at all. I was looking for my next girl, but couldn't see any of my favorite girls, so when she asked again, I agreed to go to the room with her. There was a queue for the room so she suggested that we go downstairs, but I declined and we waited for 15 minuets for the room. I could see that she was upset and thought that I should back out, but didn't. In the room she was completely another girl. No smile, no kissing, no DATY, minimal BBBJ and we were in the mish position after 3 minuets of entering the room. She also tried to avoid deep penetration but didn't succeeded. As nothing else was on the menu, I planned to bang her hard and deep for the whole hour, but I don't know why I get very excited of banging her hard after 15 minuets and unloaded in the condom. The next day she kept smiling at me every time she saw me and asked also for the room as nothing had happened.

Face: 6.

Body: 7.

Attitude: 3.

Service: 2.

Like: nothing.

Dislike: bait & switch, poor service.

Day 3:

Day3 was mostly repeat with girls from previous day: Ruby, Nina, Carla.

[b]Mikael[/b]: Romainian, shoulder length blond hair, tall and very slim body. I had to catch my flight and didn't had much time and all my favorites were disappeared. I had seen a new girl but wasn't so sure about it, so I went with her directly to the room. It was a mediocre session with only lfk, ok BBBJ and sex (maybe I was tired).

So all in all a great 3 day at Artemis.

[QUOTE=Shah Khan;1360709][b]Carla[/b]: dark blond, tanned slim body, around 170. At my last trip she was missing and if I remember correctly Kimino reported that she was quitting for good. There is two girl on the Artemis's website and they have only pictures together, one is Carla and other is Karla. I think Kimino meant the other one "Karla". So I was gladly surprised when I saw her. I immediately took her to the room and we spent a very slow love making for an hour.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Shah Khan. Yep it's another girl. The one I was talking about was Clara (but I've been mixing up names all the time). Long black hair, super. I think she did quit, as she told me, in any case she vanished from Artemis. A great loss.

Ciao.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Shah Khan; 1360709][b]Adelina[/b]: short dark blond hair, tattoo above her left breast, beautiful face, natural be-cups. I think she has lost some weight since I saw her and she was looking good. Had good time with her at the room.

Face: 9.

Body: 8.

Attitude: 9.

Service: 9.

Like: dfk, her face expression while having sex.

Dislike:

Day 2:[/QUOTE]I second your review. Forgot to comment on this.

Adelina is one of the "particular" girls I met in Artemis (not more than a 2 or 3 in the list). I find her very mentally addictive, for that reason I spread my action from her after having a lot of great sessions. About a year I don't go with her. But I will in the future. She can be very bitchy with people she doesn't like.

Ciao. Kimino.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1360823]Thanks for the report Shah Khan. Yep it's another girl. The one I was talking about was Clara (but I've been mixing up names all the time). Long black hair, super. I think she did quit, as she told me, in any case she vanished from Artemis. A great loss.

Ciao.

Kimino[/QUOTE]You are welcome.

Carla used to have long black hair too. If you see at the due pictures of Carla & Karla in the Artemis website, the Carla I'm referring to is the one with the long straight black hair.

[QUOTE=Shah Khan; 1361134]You are welcome.

Carla used to have long black hair too. If you see at the due pictures of Carla & Karla in the Artemis website, the Carla I'm referring to is the one with the long straight black hair.[/QUOTE]That's the one. Long black hair,"important" nose, not too young. Beautiful body. Great ass. Very nice attuitude. A real gem IMO. We are talking of the same girl. She is back? Great! I didn't see her on my last visit, hope she will be there on my next.

Thanks for the info.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1361284]That's the one. Long black hair,"important" nose, not too young. Beautiful body. Great ass. Very nice attuitude. A real gem IMO. We are talking of the same girl. She is back? Great! I didn't see her on my last visit, hope she will be there on my next.

Thanks for the info.

Kimino[/QUOTE]With "important" nose if you mean turned up nose then yes. I think she is around 26-27 although she said 23. And she said she will be in Artemis until after new year and then a trip home.

Yes, she is a real gem.

[QUOTE=Shah Khan; 1362178]With "important" nose if you mean turned up nose then yes. I think she is around 26-27 although she said 23. And she said she will be in Artemis until after new year and then a trip home.

Yes, she is a real gem.[/QUOTE]We will talk about it directly if we ever have a chance to meet up in Art. Looks like we have similar tastes.

Ciao!

Back at Artemis again! For those that doesn't know entrance is 80€ food and soft drinks included.

Arrived on 4pm at this hour Artemis is relatively quiet and relaxing with 20-30 ladies present and almost no males at all my first encounter was with Franchesca a beautiful Romanian girl with glasses very nice figure pretty small boobjob see-cup? She performed BBBJ very well did some french kiss but not so much dfk didn't accept DATY! It was an ok experience but no GFE so did only 30 minutes with her. After that I went to the sauna for a bit and jumped into the swimmingpool afterwards, this is what I like about Artemis compared to the clubs in Spain where you often can find more attractive women especially if you're into southamerican ladies like I am here you can truly relax between the sessions if that is what you're looking for. Next up was Belle an attractive woman from Cuba with huge knockers this girl was totally GFE I ended up with her on three different occasions spending in total 4hours of hot sex with anal on the menu every time I recommend her to everyone. After all this sex I felt pretty beaten and was actually planning to leave when I ran into Nina after all the raving reports on her I felt I had to see for myself what all the buzz was all about, Nina had a really nice vibe around her she was superfriendly with me totally GFE-experience quiet funny girl from the Chech republic not a real stunner but will repeat anyway because of her attitude!

Happy mongering!

Hi,

I have a work week in Berlin in early Januari. I like younger girls, like 18-19 years. Are there any at that age at Artemis? Or should I trust my luck down town?

Merry Christmas all!

[QUOTE=Anteme1; 1363463]Hi,

I have a work week in Berlin in early Januari. I like younger girls, like 18-19 years. Are there any at that age at Artemis? Or should I trust my luck down town?

Merry Christmas all![/QUOTE]What do you mean by "trust my luck down town"?

I can not say that there are many true "teeny-girl" types prowling the carpets at Artemis. I can think of a couple from over the years, one or two who works there now. Kitty from Berlin told me she was 19 and it is believable from her look, I have not been to the room.

But truthfully I do not think Artemis is the place for a girl below 20. It is a highly competitive atmosphere for the girls and it would take a rare sort of girl of that age to hold her own. The best to hope for is a younger 20's who has the look. Indeed Kitty is most likely in her early 20s but has a youthful "teeny" type figure (small breasts, slim hips etc.) The same though is true of most girls in the bordellos / escort agencies who advertise as 18-20.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1363978]What do you mean by "trust my luck down town"?

I can not say that there are many true "teeny-girl" types prowling the carpets at Artemis. I can think of a couple from over the years, one or two who works there now. Kitty from Berlin told me she was 19 and it is believable from her look, I have not been to the room.

But truthfully I do not think Artemis is the place for a girl below 20. It is a highly competitive atmosphere for the girls and it would take a rare sort of girl of that age to hold her own. The best to hope for is a younger 20's who has the look. Indeed Kitty is most likely in her early 20s but has a youthful "teeny" type figure (small breasts, slim hips etc.) The same though is true of most girls in the bordellos / escort agencies who advertise as 18-20.

AM[/QUOTE]I was at Artemis on Oct 2012 and had a session with Kitty. Angus is right! She's as close as it gets for a girl with a youthful appearance. If I remember correctly, she did not kiss, but did allow DATY. She had a nice, fragrant pussy. She is still a bit inexperienced compared to the other girls, but if it is youth you want, well. That is the trade off.

I will be visiting Berlin and Artemis 27-29 Dec. Just wondering what it will be like that time of year? Maybe some of the regulars can advise? I expect it to be quiet enough, but you never know that could be a good thing, more relaxed atomsphere, no queing for rooms. Shall see. Mac75

[QUOTE=Mac75;1364587]I will be visiting Berlin and Artemis 27-29 Dec. Just wondering what it will be like that time of year? Maybe some of the regulars can advise? I expect it to be quiet enough, but you never know that could be a good thing, more relaxed atomsphere, no queing for rooms. Shall see. Mac75[/QUOTE]It's quite quiet but thats good as there is no queue at all and the atmosphere isn't hectic. But as silvester approaches more and more girls head back home so make sure to bang hotties on sight, and don't think "ill do her tomorrow" I did that last year and I lost out on some nice piece of ass.

[QUOTE=Mac75;1364587]I will be visiting Berlin and Artemis 27-29 Dec. Just wondering what it will be like that time of year? Maybe some of the regulars can advise? I expect it to be quiet enough, but you never know that could be a good thing, more relaxed atomsphere, no queing for rooms. Shall see. Mac75[/QUOTE]I think that you have the right of it. Artemis will be slow this week but can be good for the relaxed atmosphere. Just don't expect too many of the A team to be there. I was thinking of a trip there myself later in the week but at the moment have come down with a cold or the flu so it will remain to be seen if I am well enough. If so I will let you know.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1364804]I think that you have the right of it. Artemis will be slow this week but can be good for the relaxed atmosphere. Just don't expect too many of the A team to be there. I was thinking of a trip there myself later in the week but at the moment have come down with a cold or the flu so it will remain to be seen if I am well enough. If so I will let you know.

AM[/QUOTE]Hi Angus, yeah sure send me a PM if you are able to come to Artemis during that time and want to meet up. Cheers, Mac75.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1363978]Kitty from Berlin told me she was 19 and it is believable from her look, I have not been to the room.[/quote]She told me, too. Sounded believable. Unrecommended.

Just got back from my visit to Berlin & Artemis, I was with 7 girls total:

Pinkie, Thai, petite girl but with large enough breasts for a Thai girl.

Francis, Colombia, latino look, dark skin, jet black hair, massive breasts (real).

Louisa, German-Dortmund, black hair, petite, slightly chubby but in a good way.

Audrey, German-Hamburg, brunette, some tattoos.

And 3 other girls who unfortunately I can't remember their names (I'm really bad with remembering the girls names) :

2 Hungarian girls, one with black hair, other blonde, and 1 Bulgarian girl with massive breasts (enhanced).

Anyway all sessions were 1/2hr €60, some in the kino and others in upstairs rooms, all were good and were indicative of the many good sessions I have had in Artemis before, however last time I was in Artemis was Jan '11 so quite a while ago.

There is an 8th girl who I won't count as a session. She was from Germany-Berlin and called herself Brigitta. She is blonde with large breasts (prob enhanced) and a sleeve tatoo down her left arm. When we went to the room she immediately started upselling, a 1/2 hr session I could not kiss her and could only touch her breasts. 1 hr session I could kiss her and her breasts. There are the club rules then her rules on top of that. I thought to myself this is total BS so I left the room immediately, we were only in the room for 1 minute, nothing happened only her reading out her BS pre-reqs. She got really angry and said I had to pay anyway as we were in the room. I told her to get lost and stormed downstairs. She called a girl who described herself as the manager, but I know she's not, I've seen her working behind the bar and the front counter sometimes but no way is she the manager. I told the "manager" my side of the story and she said ok you don't have to pay but you should clarify with the girls first before you go to the room. I said ok I'll do this in future. I really don't like going through a shopping list with a girl before I go to the room, I prefer to let things happen naturally. I would consider myself as quite good at sniffing sharks and take my time before I actually go for a session. But maybe with the likes of Brigitta and others like her I might have to take this approach.

One other thing I noticed since my last visit is that there is a marked increase in the number of girls doing the rounds offering duos. To me this is a scam and an excuse for each girl to earn the same money for half the work. I turned down any of those offers.

Overall I enjoyed my time in Artemis and would return, sorry to other ISG members for my poor ability with regards to names. I think in future I'll have to write them down immediately afterwards or something. Cheers, Mac75.

Does anyone know a girl called herself Kimi? She is half swedish, half German, Blonde, blue or green eye, fake tit, but real sweet. Does she still work at Artemis.

I went twice to Artemis, but never saw her again for past year or two.

She is half swedish and german. Blonde, blue or green eye, about 170cm, big fake breast, but nice tits. Her name is Kimi, is she still in Artemis?

yeah, despite me usually not being too fond of the place, i went twice recently, mainly because of old man in the big city lonely at night syndrome, haha. turned out to be quite fun. friday 21st was easily my best artemis visit ever. very good line-up and girls almost all very nice, and not upset if you reject them, i don't know what hit them on that night. i wonder if there are more dates like that in the mayan calendar. saturday 29th went a little back to the usual artemis silicone, tattoos, sunbed, requesting session immediately parade but still managed to find fun girls. the place was actually packed in the evening, for those who commented on a slow week. in terms of girls, mostly quantity rather than quality though.

list of girls of both visits in order of merits:

1) ruby, romania. out of this world.

2) natascha, russia. great mixed ps / gf hurricane surprising you with unusual elements. a bit over the top, for sure, but i love a good show. highly recommended.

3) sophie, russia. natascha light. with restrictions, no dfk, put the condom on early, but otherwise very good and very willing to please. recommended.

4) blaire, germany. arrogant blonde stunner. i actually expected she'd be an awful session, but a rare case when i went purely for the looks, and she turned out much better than i anticipated. quite a classical old school german hooker, probably worked in the rld before, she upsells, tries to take over control, get a tip, sell me duo later, but she's kinky and can blow and fuck. if you know how to take her quite a good fuck. not exactly recommended, and certainly not for everyone, but she's one hot dirty.

5) daisy, germany. quite cute, a bit too much for my taste though. kind of gfe (no dfk) and very nice, probably does it for some with her nice attentive way, but i found her boring, would need to be wilder. not recommended.

6) heather, bulgaria. smaller and slimmer than what i usually go for, but i just have a thing for that kind of light red hair that she has. also, not a terrible round, she does what is promised incl. dfk, but, let's put it like that, with her you are not in danger of forgetting what this is all about. improvable fucking techniques. not recommended.

notable annoyances:

a group of (probably tourist) 81ers, shouting, complaining, hustling, misbehaving. there are reasons why they are not allowed into any somewhat decent regular nightclub. a group of middle aged turkish men that probably went into the behavioural school of the 81ers. the food. awful. worse than oase. i had no idea you could [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] curry dishes like this.

mac75, you're absolutely right with the shopping list, or business contract, if you will. nobody likes that. but, just to put it like that, in artemis the girls have a lot of freedom. can be a good thing, but is mainly exploited by the sharks and poor performers. as i previously noted, to me artemis sometimes feels more like rld rather than an fkk. for instance, a quite funny thing that i can not recall ever seeing somewhere else, but happens regularly in artemis, is when the girl doesn't even bother to come over to you, but rather resorts to hand signals, when you are looking at her too much. pointing at you, her and the upstairs level or something like that. would certainly get the girl thrown out in many clubs. i wonder how they would react if you answered their request appropriately, with the middle finger, haha. may i'll do that some time, i'm just too polite though.

anyway, happy new year to all of you.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux; 1367377]4) Blaire, Germany. Arrogant blonde stunner. I actually expected she'd be an awful session, but a rare case when I went purely for the looks, and she turned out much better than I anticipated. Quite a classical old school German hooker, probably worked in the RLD before, she upsells, tries to take over control, get a tip, sell me duo later, but she's kinky and can blow and fuck. If you know how to take her quite a good fuck. Not exactly recommended, and certainly not for everyone, but she's one hot dirty.[/QUOTE]I'm heading to the love bahnhof soon and I need to do a session with that ass again! Did you do a 30min session no extras? Was she eager on getting you to finish quickly?

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux;1367377]For instance, a quite funny thing that I can not recall ever seeing somewhere else, but happens regularly in Artemis, is when the girl doesn't even bother to come over to you, but rather resorts to hand signals, when you are looking at her too much. Pointing at you, her and the upstairs level or something like that. Would certainly get the girl thrown out in many clubs. I wonder how they would react if you answered their request appropriately, with the middle finger, haha. May I'll do that some time, I'm just too polite though.[/QUOTE]Be careful, some girls might understand this as acceptance and indeed a binding non verbal contrat. The one thing I like about such girls is that they do make it obvious who not to take upstairs. Likewise the roaming duos.

AM

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux;1367377]As I previously noted, to me Artemis sometimes feels more like RLD rather than an FKK. For instance, a quite funny thing that I can not recall ever seeing somewhere else, but happens regularly in Artemis, is when the girl doesn't even bother to come over to you, but rather resorts to hand signals, when you are looking at her too much. Pointing at you, her and the upstairs level or something like that. Would certainly get the girl thrown out in many clubs. I wonder how they would react if you answered their request appropriately, with the middle finger, haha. May I'll do that some time, I'm just too polite though.[/QUOTE]One time a cute Latina at Palace tried to tell me that I had committed to a session because she had spent time talking to me. Yes, we sat there and had a good conversation about all kinds of things, but that was on her. She chose to stay and chat. She was free to leave at anytime, and I would have thought nothing of it. In fact, that's what I would expect her to do unless we had established some kind of friendship or something. She was like,"But we've been talking all of this time. That means you have to go with me to the room." Nothing but desperation I tell you. Honey, short of my dick being in your mouth, or maybe some fingers penetrating your privates, I ain't committed to nothing! You want to talk, then talk. You want to step? Then step. Do what you have to do. But, there has been no meeting of the minds here! I liken the situation to that of any other salesperson who spends time trying to make the sale, only to fail to close the deal in the end. Hell, when I buy many other types of services I can often at least get some sort of free trial offer LOL!

[QUOTE=DasBooty;1367519]I'm heading to the love bahnhof soon and I need to do a session with that ass again! Did you do a 30min session no extras? Was she eager on getting you to finish quickly?[/QUOTE]Oh Blair. What a lovely sight that one is! You know, she was my first German girl, ever. I had her in a 3 way with Maria (HUN) have not seen her around anymore). Anyways, I got Maria to convince Blair to join us in a 3 way. She was very good at working in conjunction with Maria, both sucking on my dick and balls. Later, I take turns eating each one out having each one sit on my face. The other was riding my dick simultaneously. While it was Blair's turn to ride me, she almost killed the mood by suggesting an up sell of CIM. I politely told her NO and said that I want to FUCK her from behind, so that I could see that lovely booty shake. No problem, the rest of the session went smoothly. Maria, took a back seat as I fucked Blair from behind. I came very hard! After she cleaned me up, she said "Welcome to Germany". Funniest thing, I'll always remember her. One of the best menage-a-trois, I have ever had! The last time I was at Artemis, she was just starting her shift as I was leaving. I would have loved to have given her my 100% and given her an extended session, but was completely drained. She does have a great personality. That much better if she offered to kiss. Let me know how your session turns out.

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=FiddyCent; 1367746]Oh Blair. What a lovely sight that one is! You know, she was my first German girl, ever. I had her in a 3 way with Maria (HUN) have not seen her around anymore). Anyways, I got Maria to convince Blair to join us in a 3 way. She was very good at working in conjunction with Maria, both sucking on my dick and balls. Later, I take turns eating each one out having each one sit on my face. The other was riding my dick simultaneously. While it was Blair's turn to ride me, she almost killed the mood by suggesting an up sell of CIM. I politely told her NO and said that I want to FUCK her from behind, so that I could see that lovely booty shake. No problem, the rest of the session went smoothly. Maria, took a back seat as I fucked Blair from behind. I came very hard! After she cleaned me up, she said "Welcome to Germany". Funniest thing, I'll always remember her. One of the best menage-a-trois, I have ever had! The last time I was at Artemis, she was just starting her shift as I was leaving. I would have loved to have given her my 100% and given her an extended session, but was completely drained. She does have a great personality. That much better if she offered to kiss. Let me know how your session turns out.

FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]Hehe she's a treat indeed, and a good sport (I manhandled her ass and she took it pretty well)

Last time she tried to sell me a threesome and that's overkill IMO as she alone offers enough curves to soothe my nerves! This time though ill ask her if she does anal and if its off the table ill settle with an extended session.

[QUOTE=Tosha;1367163]Does anyone know a girl called herself Kimi? She is half swedish, half German, Blonde, blue or green eye, fake tit, but real sweet. Does she still work at Artemis. I went twice to Artemis, but never saw her again for past year or two.[/QUOTE]Of course. IMHO Kimi usually worked in FKK Palace. She wasn't an one of Artemis regular girls.

[QUOTE=DasBooty;1367519]I'm heading to the love bahnhof soon and I need to do a session with that ass again! Did you do a 30min session no extras? Was she eager on getting you to finish quickly?[/QUOTE]30 mins with CIM actually. But it wasn't a hard upsell. I had that in mind anyway and she was like, after some dirty words before, you know, I'm really dirty and I like CIM and anal, but I know it's expensive round here. I told her I like anal too, but not for 100 euros, but I might inject into her mouth, if she's doing well. She was like, oh, you're dirty too, I like that. Haha.

But there was no real pressure. I was actually very close to finish in doggy, but then I thought what the heck, let's CIM. She would've certainly whined if I didn't CIM, but who cares. No time pressure, and did not rush to the lockers, she's not that bad, just wanted to make sure you know what type she is, and why I ranked her only 4th. Yeah, if she kissed and be more GFish she could be mind blowing. She's hell a hot that's for sure. She actually told me her schedule, I think, she said she'the be back in Artemis January 12th to January 24th or something like that (22nd? 26th?) Can't remember exactly.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1367860]Of course. IMHO Kimi usually worked in FKK Palace. She wasn't an one of Artemis regular girls.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much man, I saw her last in Artemis last last summer (2011) , then she dissapear, so I was wondering.

Ah so she usually works in Fkk palace in Frankfurt. Aliright, I try to goto frankfurt next time then!

Thanks, please let me know if you have further sight or info on Kimmi as I do like to session with her once again or more.

Thanks man!

[QUOTE=Tosha;1367946]Ah so she usually works in Fkk palace in Frankfurt. Aliright, I try to goto frankfurt next time then![/QUOTE]I've written: she worked. I don't know if she's still working in Palace. I've heard nothing about her for a year or so. Maybe she has retired from our game. Better you ask for her in Fkk Palace thread before heading to Frankfurt.

Is it possible to meet girls from India in Artemis? Or indian girls (18-30 years old) any where else in Berlin? Name of such brothels will be appreciated. Thanks. I would prefer to meet them in Artemis, that is why I posted in this thread.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1368010]I've written: she worked. I don't know if she's still working in Palace. I've heard nothing about her for a year or so. Maybe she has retired from our game. Better you ask for her in Fkk Palace thread before heading to Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]I hope I will find her again, she was a good girl. That I cannot forget.

[QUOTE=Spectacular;1368052]Is it possible to meet girls from India in Artemis? Or indian girls (18-30 years old) any where else in Berlin? Name of such brothels will be appreciated. Thanks. I would prefer to meet them in Artemis, that is why I posted in this thread.[/QUOTE]I have never met a girl claiming to be from India (nor Pakistan) at Artemis. I did meet one girl who claimed Afghanistan but I had my doubts about that. I seem to remember on Iranian girl but that is it. The best you will do I fear is Turkey.

As for the rest of Berlin-there is one escort who advertises as Indian. If I can find it I will post a link.

A

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1368171]I have never met a girl claiming to be from India (nor Pakistan) at Artemis. I did meet one girl who claimed Afghanistan but I had my doubts about that. I seem to remember on Iranian girl but that is it. The best you will do I fear is Turkey.A[/QUOTE]Shiva actually is Indian (hence the name) , though her folks moved to Czech Rep.

Though I am partial to the Nordic type, my experience with Turkish women (Busa) there and elsewhere (Sybel at Mon Rouge) is almost universally great. Nothing to fear but fear itself.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1368174]Shiva actually is Indian (hence the name) , though her folks moved to Czech Rep.[/QUOTE]Shiva is as Indian as I am a Scots. The girl did not even know that her name sake is a male deity.

That said she is a damn wild fuck and does not lack for enthusiasm. Maybe if you wrapped her in a sari and closed your eyes?

A brief search produced this.

[url]http://www.saraausindien.de/index.php?id=galerie[/url]

All I can say is rather you than me.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1368181]Shiva is as Indian as I am a Scots. The girl did not even know that her name sake is a male deity.

That said she is a damn wild fuck and does not lack for enthusiasm. Maybe if you wrapped her in a sari and closed your eyes?

A brief search produced this.

[url]http://www.saraausindien.de/index.php?id=galerie[/url]

All I can say is rather you than me.

AM[/QUOTE]Well if it is as RocketBoy says, perhaps her cultural references is lacking, due to growing up in a fairly secularized environment? I never met her, does she look like she's Indian? I mean that has to be the thing that counts in this case.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux; 1367885]30 mins with CIM actually. But it wasn't a hard upsell. I had that in mind anyway and she was like, after some dirty words before, you know, I'm really dirty and I like CIM and anal, but I know it's expensive round here. I told her I like anal too, but not for 100 euros, but I might inject into her mouth, if she's doing well. She was like, oh, you're dirty too, I like that. Haha.

But there was no real pressure. I was actually very close to finish in doggy, but then I thought what the heck, let's CIM. She would've certainly whined if I didn't CIM, but who cares. No time pressure, and did not rush to the lockers, she's not that bad, just wanted to make sure you know what type she is, and why I ranked her only 4th. Yeah, if she kissed and be more GFish she could be mind blowing. She's hell a hot that's for sure. She actually told me her schedule, I think, she said she'the be back in Artemis January 12th to January 24th or something like that (22nd? 26th?) Can't remember exactly.[/QUOTE]Scheisse! I'm going there on the 11th. I'll just have to anally probe some other wg hehe.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1368171]I have never met a girl claiming to be from India (nor Pakistan) at Artemis. I did meet one girl who claimed Afghanistan but I had my doubts about that. I seem to remember on Iranian girl but that is it. The best you will do I fear is Turkey.

As for the rest of Berlin-there is one escort who advertises as Indian. If I can find it I will post a link.

A[/QUOTE]Do you remember the name of the Iranian girl?

[QUOTE=StrikeFour;1368333]Do you remember the name of the Iranian girl?[/QUOTE]Shirin (maybe Sherin? Don't know exactly) told me about her her parents to be from Turkey and Iran. Not a kind of a skinny girl.

Nia sometimes claimed her parents to be from India and Albania, sometimes herself to be from Iran. Born in Northrhine-Westphalia, native german speaker. Small, dark skin, big brown eyes, curly hair. Very cute. Haven't seen her for a while in Artemis.

[QUOTE=StrikeFour;1368333]Do you remember the name of the Iranian girl?[/QUOTE]Sorry no as it was probably 4 years back and I only saw here there the once. In any case this particular girl is long gone from Artemis.

AM

[QUOTE=Finite;1368196]Well if it is as RocketBoy says, perhaps her cultural references is lacking, due to growing up in a fairly secularized environment? I never met her, does she look like she's Indian? I mean that has to be the thing that counts in this case.[/QUOTE]She is a small girl (well a girl of approx. 32 years) with dark hair & big man made boobs. So if she styled her hair in a certain way and wore a particular style of clothes she could pass. But if you take a look at the link I sent (aside from the fact that Sara of India is not particularly good looking IMO) there are any number of girls at Artemis who have this look which I would as much describe as gypsy-ish, though not to their face or within Norjan's hearing.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1368502]She is a small girl (well a girl of approx. 32 years) with dark hair & big man made boobs. So if she styled her hair in a certain way and wore a particular style of clothes she could pass. But if you take a look at the link I sent (aside from the fact that Sara of India is not particularly good looking IMO) there are any number of girls at Artemis who have this look which I would as much describe as gypsy-ish, though not to their face or within Norjan's hearing.

AM[/QUOTE]Well the gipsies "have been traced genetically to a group migrating from the northwestern Indian Subcontinent about 1500 years ago". So it's not totaly untrue LOL.

I actually did ask that question one time, not at Artemis though, and it was not in a rude way, some of the Romainan and bulgarian girls most definitly are at least half Romani / gipsies.

Wikipedia

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1368501]Sorry no as it was probably 4 years back and I only saw here there the once. In any case this particular girl is long gone from Artemis.

AM[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pharisaer; 1368440]Shirin (maybe Sherin? Don't know exactly) told me about her her parents to be from Turkey and Iran. Not a kind of a skinny girl.

Nia sometimes claimed her parents to be from India and Albania, sometimes herself to be from Iran. Born in Northrhine-Westphalia, native german speaker. Small, dark skin, big brown eyes, curly hair. Very cute. Haven't seen her for a while in Artemis.[/QUOTE]Oh ok thanks guys. I'm going to Artemis this Wednesday. Is it still lingerie-day? Is the line-up very different to other weekdays because of lingerie-day? Can't wait to get there!

I went to Artemis many times, I always find one or two really beautiful girls to my taste. BUT there are some real bad day in aspect of beauty level of girls.

Palace FKK in Frankfurt, I never been.

Do you think in general, there are more beautiful girls and varieties of girls in Palace than Artemis?

I am considering of going to Palace FKK in my next visit.

Normally I just goto Artemis because I am used to the place and have memories there.

Which one do you think is better Palace or Artemis in aspect and varieties of girls not the facilities.

[QUOTE=Tosha; 1368752]I went to Artemis many times, I always find one or two really beautiful girls to my taste. BUT there are some real bad day in aspect of beauty level of girls.

Palace FKK in Frankfurt, I never been.

Do you think in general, there are more beautiful girls and varieties of girls in Palace than Artemis?

I am considering of going to Palace FKK in my next visit.

Normally I just goto Artemis because I am used to the place and have memories there.

Which one do you think is better Palace or Artemis in aspect and varieties of girls not the facilities.[/QUOTE]Hello Tosha.

You might help the discussion by describing the types of girl you like. Both places have a variety of beautiful girls. Don`t think, just go.

FiddyCent

[QUOTE=StrikeFour;1368655]Is it still lingerie-day? Is the line-up very different to other weekdays because of lingerie-day? Can't wait to get there![/QUOTE]Yes, it's still lingerie day. Lineup may be an average one. But remember, some girls may have not returned from their holiday vacation yet.

[QUOTE=Finite; 1368517]I actually did ask that question one time, not at Artemis though, and it was not in a rude way, some of the Romainan and bulgarian girls most definitly are at least half Romani / gipsies.

Wikipedia[/QUOTE]This is no doubt true. I just wanted to point out that some girls might not take being identified as gypsy as a compliment. There are some fairly deep prejudices against the Roma people in Europe.

AM

[QUOTE=Tosha; 1368752]I went to Artemis many times, I always find one or two really beautiful girls to my taste. BUT there are some real bad day in aspect of beauty level of girls.

Palace FKK in Frankfurt, I never been.

Do you think in general, there are more beautiful girls and varieties of girls in Palace than Artemis?

I am considering of going to Palace FKK in my next visit.

Normally I just goto Artemis because I am used to the place and have memories there.

Which one do you think is better Palace or Artemis in aspect and varieties of girls not the facilities.[/QUOTE]Ciao Tosha.

The better place is the one YOU like more, period. This said, I would give Palace a try. Personally Artemis and Palace are my favorite FKKs. I don't recall any big difference in variety. A lot of nice girls in Palace, great facilities. I still prefer Artemis for many reasons but every now and then I do try to visit Palace.

Kimino

If you have your wits about you-take your time, talk first to get the vibe, be clear about expectations and costs before you hit the room, and be a charming dude vs some demanding supermarket shopper, the Palace will not disappoint. I have always enjoyed it and there are some real stunners-more womanly than say Oase IMHO. Palace is a much nicer club, better food. Berlin a far nicer city.

Just be aware that all places will not be at full strength for another week or so due to winter holiday choices AND go on the good days if possible Thurs-Sat. Ibis has a cheap hotel within 5 min walk.

Just do it for the change of pace. We await your reports and comparisons.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1368857]This is no doubt true. I just wanted to point out that some girls might not take being identified as gypsy as a compliment. There are some fairly deep prejudices against the Roma people in Europe.

AM[/QUOTE]I'm verry well aware of that, even I have prejudices from time to time. And it's nothing I would recomend people to ask the girls about. However many Gipsy-girls give a verry good service.

Both clubs are good in its own right,
Depends on the night,
Like Rocketboy, be a charming dude vs a demanding dude,

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1368960]If you have your wits about you-take your time, talk first to get the vibe, be clear about expectations and costs before you hit the room, and be a charming dude vs some demanding supermarket shopper, the Palace will not disappoint. I have always enjoyed it and there are some real stunners-more womanly than say Oase IMHO. Palace is a much nicer club, better food. Berlin a far nicer city.

Just be aware that all places will not be at full strength for another week or so due to winter holiday choices AND go on the good days if possible Thurs-Sat. Ibis has a cheap hotel within 5 min walk.

Just do it for the change of pace. We await your reports and comparisons.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1368960]If you have your wits about you-take your time, talk first to get the vibe, be clear about expectations and costs before you hit the room, and be a charming dude vs some demanding supermarket shopper, the Palace will not disappoint. I have always enjoyed it and there are some real stunners-more womanly than say Oase IMHO. Palace is a much nicer club, better food. Berlin a far nicer city.

Just be aware that all places will not be at full strength for another week or so due to winter holiday choices AND go on the good days if possible Thurs-Sat. Ibis has a cheap hotel within 5 min walk.

Just do it for the change of pace. We await your reports and comparisons.[/QUOTE]Rocketboy, you bring up a good point. If you are a wise negotiator, you will have a good time with the ladies. Just be prepared to pay a little bit more. However, if a girl seems too sharky, bring out the repellent and use it.

FiddyCent

[QUOTE=Tosha; 1368752]I went to Artemis many times, I always find one or two really beautiful girls to my taste. BUT there are some real bad day in aspect of beauty level of girls.

Palace FKK in Frankfurt, I never been.

Do you think in general, there are more beautiful girls and varieties of girls in Palace than Artemis?

I am considering of going to Palace FKK in my next visit.

Normally I just goto Artemis because I am used to the place and have memories there.

Which one do you think is better Palace or Artemis in aspect and varieties of girls not the facilities.[/QUOTE]Recently tried all three. Artemis, palace, oase (see my reports in respective threads). I think quality of girls depends heavily on day and time choice. I found plenty of good looking ones at all three and very few that were visually a disaster (service maybe a different story).

All three of these clubs are worth trying. Go for Variety this time. A spice of life.

Thank you very much guys! For your kind replies, you guys are very kind.

I always sticked to Artemis as it was my first FKK and I have been there for past three years.

BUT next time I visit Germany for my FKK touring (yes I fly 12hours just for FKK holiday of two weeks every year) , I will hit Palace at frankfurt first, then I will move to Berlin to Artemis.

Then if I like Palace and I can get good set of beautiful girls, then it is best to hit Palace then Artemis every year for my Fkk trip.

I will wait till the weather get warmer as as you may all agree FKK is much better place in summer.) EU winter is too harsh;. (

As for Artemis I never had bad experience at this club, most girls are nice hearted and fair enough. Service may differ from girl to girl, but they are human too, so I understand if some french kiss and some do not. Plus you can always negotiate with little more money or extention of time. More or less house rule do apply to fair extent.

Anyways, thank you guys again and for those of you living in Berlin, LUCKY YOU! LOL.) If you see Blonde half swedish half German girl Kimmi, let me know, I fly over!

Artemis and the irony (or no smoke without fire)

I have thought of trying Palace in Frankfurt but so far I have not been able to justify it. I have always tried to make my visits about more than how many girls I can shag in one night. Berlin is easier to get to, easier to get around and offers more for the culturally inclined. Berlin, Artemis and Royal give me all that I need.

It is somewhat ironic that when I find a bar which is surrounded by naked sexy girls there is also a smoky atmosphere. The enjoyment is somewhat impaired because of this. If the FKK concept is about wellness why is this permitted? Where I come from we got rid of smoking in public places years ago.

I would like to visit in the Spring. Does any one know if the extension will be complete by then?

[QUOTE=WarmStone25; 1369970]Artemis and the irony (or no smoke without fire)

I have thought of trying Palace in Frankfurt but so far I have not been able to justify it. I have always tried to make my visits about more than how many girls I can shag in one night. Berlin is easier to get to, easier to get around and offers more for the culturally inclined. Berlin, Artemis and Royal give me all that I need.

It is somewhat ironic that when I find a bar which is surrounded by naked sexy girls there is also a smoky atmosphere. The enjoyment is somewhat impaired because of this. If the FKK concept is about wellness why is this permitted? Where I come from we got rid of smoking in public places years ago.

I would like to visit in the Spring. Does any one know if the extension will be complete by then?[/QUOTE]Hello WarmStone25.

I went wandering around the Artemis expansion area in October 2012. Asking around, they were very close to finishing. I agree it is much needed, since they are always short on rooms. This creates a backlog and the girls seemed to be somewhat rushed when you do finally get in.

The rooms in the main section are very warn down. There are so many tears in the beds, it is starting to look like a cheap motel. The girls now have to put their high heeled shoes outside the rooms to show the management that they are not wearing them while on the beds. Apparently, some of the girls were blamed for causing the tears. Being a non-smoker myself I have been at times overwhelmed by the smoke, sometimes retreating to the sauna area for relief. The thing I like about Palace is that they have a separate smoking room, with the main floor space being primarily smoke free. Another little difference is that while dining, the girls are not required to cover up completely. Some may find it disgusting, but I found it funny sometimes seeing a girl eat with her tits out. Food for thought.

FiddyCent

[QUOTE=FiddyCent; 1370058]Hello WarmStone25.

I went wandering around the Artemis expansion area in October 2012. Asking around, they were very close to finishing. I agree it is much needed, since they are always short on rooms. This creates a backlog and the girls seemed to be somewhat rushed when you do finally get in.

The rooms in the main section are very warn down. There are so many tears in the beds, it is starting to look like a cheap motel. The girls now have to put their high heeled shoes outside the rooms to show the management that they are not wearing them while on the beds. Apparently, some of the girls were blamed for causing the tears. Being a non-smoker myself I have been at times overwhelmed by the smoke, sometimes retreating to the sauna area for relief. The thing I like about Palace is that they have a separate smoking room, with the main floor space being primarily smoke free. Another little difference is that while dining, the girls are not required to cover up completely. Some may find it disgusting, but I found it funny sometimes seeing a girl eat with her tits out. Food for thought.

FiddyCent[/QUOTE]I wonder how they are going to connect extention building and main building? Outdoor pool seems good, I am looking forward to enjoying that next summer!

More new rooms, more working girls? I hope so!

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;1369970]If the FKK concept is about wellness why is this permitted? Where I come from we got rid of smoking in public places years ago.[/QUOTE]Who told you this? FKK means and originally was about nudism and perhaps natural living. As it is used in relation to a club like Artemis I think we can safely say it means that you are going to a bordello. That there are some saunas and massage available is as a support to the bordello.

Berlin did bring in some anti smoking regulations a few years back and one can no longer smoke in cafes and restaurants. Bars where children are not to be admitted (obviously Artemis qualifies in this respect) one can still smoke though, they do have some stricter laws concerning keeping the smoke away from non smoking areas, thus the sliding glass doors into the bar and the now closed door to the dining room.

Other than that, for the moment, count your blessings. I mean California for instance seems to be more or less smoke free. But try finding a decent hooker there for a decent price. One has to prioritise after all.

AM

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[QUOTE=FiddyCent; 1370058]The rooms in the main section are very warn down. There are so many tears in the beds, it is starting to look like a cheap motel. The girls now have to put their high heeled shoes outside the rooms to show the management that they are not wearing them while on the beds. Apparently, some of the girls were blamed for causing the tears. Being a non-smoker myself I have been at times overwhelmed by the smoke, sometimes retreating to the sauna area for relief. The thing I like about Palace is that they have a separate smoking room, with the main floor space being primarily smoke free. Another little difference is that while dining, the girls are not required to cover up completely. Some may find it disgusting, but I found it funny sometimes seeing a girl eat with her tits out. Food for thought.

FiddyCent[/QUOTE]I also noticed the torn up coating on the beds, looks a bit crappy. And the thing about taking off the shoe's, not such a big problem for me. One of the girls did however roll her eyes about it, and thaught that this rule was stupid. About smoking inside, It's something I personally enjoy since It's forbidden to do so in many bars in Europe. I personally prefer the girls to be covered up in the dining area, it must be some kind of ordnung, this is after all Germany we are talking about.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1370301]Who told you this? FKK means and originally was about nudism and perhaps natural living. As it is used in relation to a club like Artemis I think we can safely say it means that you are going to a bordello. That there are some saunas and massage available is as a support to the bordello.

Berlin did bring in some anti smoking regulations a few years back and one can no longer smoke in cafes and restaurants. Bars where children are not to be admitted (obviously Artemis qualifies in this respect) one can still smoke though, they do have some stricter laws concerning keeping the smoke away from non smoking areas, thus the sliding glass doors into the bar and the now closed door to the dining room.

Other than that, for the moment, count your blessings. I mean California for instance seems to be more or less smoke free. But try finding a decent hooker there for a decent price. One has to prioritise after all.

AM[/QUOTE]Yep, the original freier körper kultur has nothing to do with clubs like Artemis. A friend of mine who is a naturist wouldn't set his foot in a club like Artemis.

[QUOTE=Finite; 1370395]I also noticed the torn up coating on the beds, looks a bit crappy. And the thing about taking off the shoe's, not such a big problem for me. One of the girls did however roll her eyes about it, and thaught that this rule was stupid. About smoking inside, It's something I personally enjoy since It's forbidden to do so in many bars in Europe. I personally prefer the girls to be covered up in the dining area, it must be some kind of ordnung, this is after all Germany we are talking about.

Yep, the original freier körper kultur has nothing to do with clubs like Artemis. A friend of mine who is a naturist wouldn't set his foot in a club like Artemis.[/QUOTE]The smoke is not going to stop me from going back to Artemis. The tits out will not keep me from dining in the Palace restaurant. However, if your friend decides to show up at either one of these places, and walks around the main floor without a robe, I'm out of there!

FiddyCent

[QUOTE=FiddyCent; 1370627]The smoke is not going to stop me from going back to Artemis. The tits out will not keep me from dining in the Palace restaurant. However, if your friend decides to show up at either one of these places, and walks around the main floor without a robe, I'm out of there!

FiddyCent[/QUOTE]Haha. But that's just the thing, if it where a real nudist place, the guys would not have a towel or robe on either.

Don't worry about it I think someone how tried would get their ass kicked out, at least if you as a guy tried to dine naked in Artemis. I have not even seen any dudes that are naked in the bar-area. But I'm not sure, maybe it's allowed.

The smoking Oasis.

The Artemis web site describes the club as a wellness brothel and an oasis of well being.

The concept of wellness and well being are incompatible with smoking in the lounge.

If the customers do not want this the management of Artemis should listen and prohibit smoking in the lounge.

There may be advantages to the Club in reduced maintenance and insurance costs.

[QUOTE=Finite; 1370853]Haha. But that's just the thing, if it where a real nudist place, the guys would not have a towel or robe on either.

Don't worry about it I think someone how tried would get their ass kicked out, at least if you as a guy tried to dine naked in Artemis. I have not even seen any dudes that are naked in the bar-area. But I'm not sure, maybe it's allowed.[/QUOTE]Let us not change a good thing! I do hope the robes are mandatory in the restaurants. The KINO is a different story.

FiddyCent

In a way, I agree to certain extent as sometimes the lounge get too smokey. Maybe smoking section could be an idea, like the cinema kino place in main lounge is not necessary I personally think. (well what do you think?) , so for instance convert that cinema place as smoking area lounge with good ventilation, so smokers do not need to go outside to smoke or travel far from main lounge to smoke.

However, I sometimes smell pot in main lounge. I am not against pot and I think club should close their eyes on it with certain condition, BUT it is more wise for pot smokers to go outside area of the club to smoke. I think this is manner. I am not saying don't smoke pot at FKK, as FKK should be free place as possible, but certain manner should be considered when it come to certain things as FKK is not do whatever you like place no matter what.

Either way, I love Artemis, I hope they are not going to change rule too much as it is more or less perfect as it is. I hope they make it better for girls, so that more pretty girls will come and work. Most girls working at FKK are nice and I respect them very much in positive sense.

Does anyone know if Lulu? A verry tattoed girl with sleaves [if I remeber it correctley]. Still work at Artemis? She is dark haired, slim and not verry tall. She said she was from Austria. I also noticed that she has a small ACAB tattoo on one of here forearms, same font style as the HAMC uses. Did a 60€ session with her, which was ok, not more. Perhaps because I didn't buy any extras? It however would be nice to try her again. I liked her bad girl look.

She was there this summer, in early June. Not sure if she works there all the time, a lot of the girls seems to be from other FKK:s, during this time. Like Atoms and Samya.

About Wellness thing, I'm for sure not a regular at Artemis, but has anyeone actually seen somebody use the gym? I have not.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25; 1370998]The smoking Oasis.

The Artemis web site describes the club as a wellness brothel and an oasis of well being.

The concept of wellness and well being are incompatible with smoking in the lounge.

If the customers do not want this the management of Artemis should listen and prohibit smoking in the lounge.

There may be advantages to the Club in reduced maintenance and insurance costs.[/QUOTE]What can I say-take it up with the management. Good luck he is a smoker.



AM

Hi Guys,

German girl brown hair, tall and slim.

How is her service?

I saw her a few times that she declined some customers.

Thanks in advance.

Naykan

[QUOTE=Naykan; 1371171]Hi Guys,

German girl brown hair, tall and slim.

How is her service?

I saw her a few times that she declined some customers.

Thanks in advance.

Naykan[/QUOTE]Is Ivy the one with little scorpion tattoo on her foot (often hidden with some legging) , but no other tattoo and she has black like brown hair with blue eye and rather baby face? If so she is nice if she likes you, but if not, she does not take that customer, she told me so during the session, went to many session with her and personally she is nice, but if you want hardcore service, go for others so, but she is nice.

[QUOTE=Finite;1371025]Does anyone know if Lulu?[/QUOTE]You're right: she's heavily tattooed, she's from Austria. Haven't seen her for months. AFAIK she's working in Palace and Paradise, too.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1371208]You're right: she's heavily tattooed, she's from Austria. Haven't seen her for months. AFAIK she's working in Palace and Paradise, too.[/QUOTE]Ok, so she was just guest-starring during this summer? Frankfurt don't seem to be such a fun place to be in, except for the FKK:s that almost always get great reviews, on this forum.

About the smoking again, it's apparently arouses strong feelings, especially in the non-smoking comunity, maybe not as much as the for- or against AO-discussions on this board. You non-smokers how do you feel about that many, if not the most of the girls smoke? If you do DFK and are a non-smoker I guess you would feel the taste of cigarettes? By the way, I have actually smoked in the zimmer [with the window open] after sex a couple of times, so I guess the place is not for asthmatics or allergics.

Back to the topic: I found a pdf that's called Sharks and performers at Artemis, is that one up to date? I tried to search the thread but I couldn't find when it was posted.

[QUOTE=Naykan; 1371171]Hi Guys,

German girl brown hair, tall and slim.

How is her service?

I saw her a few times that she declined some customers.

Thanks in advance.

Naykan[/QUOTE]I love her! Love her look, love her attitude. Maybe not the best sessions but I go with her everytime I see her, she is really sweet, even if she walks around with an angry face. LOL.

Long time I don't see her but Zimmerbaby said that lately she "matured" a bit and now she is a great performer. Hope to see her later on this month.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1371208]You're right: she's heavily tattooed, she's from Austria. Haven't seen her for months. AFAIK she's working in Palace and Paradise, too.[/QUOTE]You are right, Lulu works most of the time in Palace.

There are a number of hits for Lulu if you use the search function. Never sessioned with her myself. She struck me as beautiful and hot but I did not get a great vibe from her.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1371286]There are a number of hits for Lulu if you use the search function. Never sessioned with her myself. She struck me as beautiful and hot but I did not get a great vibe from her.

AM[/QUOTE]Well, I'm new to the forum and have had bad luck with searching for stuff on it. As you can see in the post, before this one. But you are right searching for Lulu actually gives results. It does however not answer my question if she was working there right now. When I visited Artemis earlier this autumn she was not there, but the girls don't work all the time, so it was possible I just missed here. She herself didn't tell me she worked in Frankfurt.

I think Ivy is the most beautiful girl of ARTEMIS especially with baby face nice tits and wonderful ass. She has some classy mood that usually she aproaches and choses the customers never in a sharky way I sessioned with her twice and although she is not a kisser she was wonderful. I also still remember Lulu The dark girl from Austria with alot of tatooes. She was at first in a sharky mod but I liked her nice black eyes and super hot ass and finally agreed to have session and with extra 20 euros for kissing the action was reallly good. After I tried her for the next two visits to Artemis in 6 months I did not see her again.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1371286]There are a number of hits for Lulu if you use the search function. Never sessioned with her myself. She struck me as beautiful and hot but I did not get a great vibe from her.

AM[/QUOTE]Same here. Met her first time at Palace then sessioned with her at Artemis. Very very goodlooking and matching my tastes but a mediocre session, with me at least. Still, I would give her a second try, if I didn't have a long list of favorites and limited time / money. LOL.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino;1371329]Very very goodlooking and matching my tastes but a mediocre session, with me at least.[/QUOTE]Well Kimino I figure if you could not coax a good performance from her what chance would any of us poor schleps have.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1371336]Well Kimino I figure if you could not coax a good performance from her what chance would any of us poor schleps have.

AM[/QUOTE]Sure, sure. That's another beer I owe you at the next meeting.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Shinai;1371306]I also still remember Lulu The dark girl from Austria with alot of tatooes. She was at first in a sharky mod but I liked her nice black eyes and super hot ass and finally agreed to have session and with extra 20 euros for kissing the action was reallly good. After I tried her for the next two visits to Artemis in 6 months I did not see her again.[/QUOTE]20 € extra costs for kissing? Thats terrible and bad for her reputation an bad for the repuation of the club.

We should not accept it.

[QUOTE=Shinai;1371306]...with extra 20 euros for kissing...[/QUOTE]Of course no one can tell you what to do but this is a bad precedent to set. Kissing is included if the girl agrees. If not, best just to let her go. Next thing is the girls are charging for every little thing and service will go down.

AM

I am considering a trip this easter to berlin as a change to frankfurt. I am however however unsure as to the best period to go. 28/3-4/4 easter holidays some shops closed and maybe lesser girls around or the other window I have is 4/4-11/4 which my instinct is telling me would be better due to normal shop opening hours some girls back after hols. Even though artemis is more expensive than oase the 3 visits I have made to artemis in 2008/2012 were very enjoyable especially as the club hardware is so much better than that at oase. Can members please guide me as to the best week of the above two?

Many thanks voyager.

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1372151]Can members please guide me as to the best week of the above two?[/QUOTE]The second week of course, as has been mentioned before the Easter holidays may not affect the attendance of Romanian / Spanish / Italian girls but I would expect it to affect the number of German, Hungarian and Polish girls in the club.

[quote=neutron flux;1367377]a group of (probably tourist) 81ers, shouting, complaining, hustling, misbehaving. there are reasons why they are not allowed into any somewhat decent regular nightclub. a group of middle aged turkish men that probably went into the behavioural school of the 81ers. the food. awful. worse than oase. i had no idea you could [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] curry dishes like this.[/quote]you get this in the hessen clubs too. the 81ers always seem to be in all the clubs. i guess they are taking care of business.

[quote=neutron flux;1367377]as i previously noted, to me artemis sometimes feels more like rld rather than an fkk. for instance, a quite funny thing that i can not recall ever seeing somewhere else, but happens regularly in artemis, is when the girl doesn't even bother to come over to you, but rather resorts to hand signals, when you are looking at her too much. pointing at you, her and the upstairs level or something like that. would certainly get the girl thrown out in many clubs. i wonder how they would react if you answered their request appropriately, with the middle finger, haha. may i'll do that some time, i'm just too polite though.[/quote]this made laugh. i must try.

Angus,

I think this is a bit hypocritical, since I seem to remember you asking for 50 euro to kiss.

You did actually forgive this debt on humanitarian grounds. Poor Nicoletta was squirming in her non existent panties.

Never really understood. You will have to explain it to me sometime.

BSK.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1371559]Of course no one can tell you what to do but this is a bad precedent to set. Kissing is included if the girl agrees. If not, best just to let her go. Next thing is the girls are charging for every little thing and service will go down.

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yakob;1372531]You get this in the Hessen clubs too. The 81ers always seem to be in all the clubs. I guess they are taking care of business.[/QUOTE]A bit off topic. But what is an "81ers"?

T

[QUOTE=Yakob;1372531]You get this in the Hessen clubs too. The 81ers always seem to be in all the clubs. I guess they are taking care of business.[/QUOTE]Yes, I know very well about the Hessen Clubs and yes, could be, but they didn't seem to have too much of a clue what was going on. E. G. At one point they were shouting around complaining that no WG in the club speaks any German. Which was quite wrong too, there were lots of Germans. They were also drunk. And they were from far away franchises (Mannheim and Düren, or something like that, don't remember). That's why I designated them as probably tourists, but doesn't really matter anyway. In the club I actually thought they were just some random idiots, I just noticed their affiliation when I saw them leaving in full gear.

Tjohoo: Hells Angels.

[QUOTE=Tjohoo; 1372542]A bit off topic. But what is an "81ers"?

T[/QUOTE]Source:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hells_Angels[/url]

Quote from Wikipedia article re: Hell's Angels:

Common nicknames for the club are the "H. A.","Red & White", and "81" (H and A being the eighth and first letters of the alphabet).

[QUOTE=Tjohoo; 1372542]A bit off topic. But what is an "81ers"?

T[/QUOTE]81ers is a reference to the Hells Angels. The acronym for Hells Angels is HA so when coding it to the alphabet then is the 8th and 1st letters of the alphabet making 81.

There will be some 81ers looking out for their business.

Hells angels? I never seen them in Artemis. I sometimes speak with some other guests at Artemis, and for all the years I went to Artemis, I only met very nice and friendly guests. I never knewthere are hells angels or un-polite guests at Artemis or any other FKK like palace or oase etc.

There maybe few iditos if you look for them, but I never met any bad behaviour guests or any girl working there being over unpolite.

HOWEVER! Once two HOT girls were swimming at pool downstairs and all the guy including myself was WOW! And all the guys went up and ask to go upstairs and apparently they just came for a swim and sauna.) And I tell you this two blonde german girls are soooooo beautiful.) That was un believable experience at Artemis.) They were just there for fun. Myself and other guys just decided to be real rude pervert and stay around the pool and watch these two amateur nude girls swim.) I never seen normal non working girls coming to FKK other than that time!

So basically between 28/3-4/4 and 4/4-11/4 the week ending 11/4 would be the best choice as it is the week after easter and so more than likely the blonde haired german / baltic types might be higher in number. Thanks again for confirmation so close to booking my trip!

[QUOTE=Tosha;1372666]HOWEVER! Once two HOT girls were swimming at pool downstairs and all the guy including myself was WOW! And all the guys went up and ask to go upstairs and apparently they just came for a swim and sauna.) And I tell you this two blonde german girls are soooooo beautiful.) I never seen normal non working girls coming to FKK other than that time![/QUOTE]Well at least highly unlikely. Possibly they were support staff, working girls on a break who did not want to deal with mongers (incredible as it may seem) , or newbees just checking out the facilities. Or they just spun you all a line. But the idea that 2 girls would or could (it is not allowed) just come in off the street and use the wellness zone is pure fantasy.

Time I think to return to field reports and advice...

This was my first visit to Artemis since last summer, and despite some reports of a deterioration in the club's decor and facilities, all seemed good to me.

I only had two sessions. The first was with Fatima and, as usual, Slovakia's finest didn't disappoint.

My second was with Daisy, a 21 year-old blonde from Berlin with a flowery tattoo going down her back to her thigh. She is very cute with a girl-next-door look. Had a great time in the room with Daisy, she is a very enthusiastic performer and gives a great deep-throat BJ. A definite repeat for me.

I spoke to a few other guys who were there for the first time. A guy from Frankfurt thought Artemis was better than the clubs he frequents at home and a guy from London was impressed with the club and standard of women, but wasn't a fan of the amount of silicon on show.

It's three years since I first went to Artemis and still find it a very enjoyable club. It's a must-do for me when I'm visiting the Haupstadt.

[QUOTE=Tosha; 1372666]Hells angels? I never seen them in Artemis. I sometimes speak with some other guests at Artemis, and for all the years I went to Artemis, I only met very nice and friendly guests. I never knewthere are hells angels or un-polite guests at Artemis or any other FKK like palace or oase etc.

There maybe few iditos if you look for them, but I never met any bad behaviour guests or any girl working there being over unpolite.

HOWEVER! Once two HOT girls were swimming at pool downstairs and all the guy including myself was WOW! And all the guys went up and ask to go upstairs and apparently they just came for a swim and sauna.) And I tell you this two blonde german girls are soooooo beautiful.) That was un believable experience at Artemis.) They were just there for fun. Myself and other guys just decided to be real rude pervert and stay around the pool and watch these two amateur nude girls swim.) I never seen normal non working girls coming to FKK other than that time![/QUOTE]SERIOUS WORK OUT.

On one of my visits to Artemis I saw a girl in the gym doing a serious work out. She was covered in perspiration otherwise I would have asked her to a room.

[QUOTE=Tosha;1372666]Hells angels? I never seen them in Artemis.[/QUOTE]"Real" 81ers as well their supporters like Red Wings or so. Watch out for some of their special tattoos, and you recognize them.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1373004]"Real" 81ers as well their supporters like Red Wings or so. Watch out for some of their special tattoos, and you recognize them.[/QUOTE]Yeah? Well maybe, but even these guys are there, I never seen any problem in Artemis guest bothering other guests. Very very rare but I have seen girls being angry at some guests for being rude, but other than that girls and guests seems very prompt in Artemis and other FKK I have been in Germany.

But it is funny people mentioned hells angel presence in Artemis as I understood Artemis is under turkish owner and his management. I think I saw him and chat with him few times in Artemis he is very nice and friendly guy. But what so strange is I understood hells angel and turkish / arabs in Berlin are like enemies. I often read about their violent fight in news papers in berlin. I would imagine they would not go to rivals business place and put money into their rival or even enemies pocket.

Anyways, even they maybe there, I never really noticed them, but with my next visit I will look for those tattoos of angels and so on.) Maybe some girls too have those tattoos?

[QUOTE=Tosha;1373040]Yeah? Well maybe, but even these guys are there, I never seen any problem in Artemis guest bothering other guests. .Maybe some girls too have those tattoos?[/QUOTE]Guests at Artemis never bother anyone (except for the occasional shooting).RTFF. Now can we give this a rest or take it to the lounge.

When you think about it, all the GIRLS working at Artemis are in fact Hell's angels.

[QUOTE=Macca 74; 1372931]This was my first visit to Artemis since last summer, and despite some reports of a deterioration in the club's decor and facilities, all seemed good to me.

I only had two sessions. The first was with Fatima and, as usual, Slovakia's finest didn't disappoint.

My second was with Daisy, a 21 year-old blonde from Berlin with a flowery tattoo going down her back to her thigh. She is very cute with a girl-next-door look. Had a great time in the room with Daisy, she is a very enthusiastic performer and gives a great deep-throat BJ. A definite repeat for me.

I spoke to a few other guys who were there for the first time. A guy from Frankfurt thought Artemis was better than the clubs he frequents at home and a guy from London was impressed with the club and standard of women, but wasn't a fan of the amount of silicon on show.

It's three years since I first went to Artemis and still find it a very enjoyable club. It's a must-do for me when I'm visiting the Haupstadt.[/QUOTE]I may have been the guy from London! I was not a fan of the Silicone but there was so much choice overall, that avoiding it was no problem. My first visit, but I went for 6 sessions on that day. The best was the gorgeous but slighty GirlNextDoor look of Lavinia. We had a great session right in the cinema. Highly recommended! After dinner break, I did a repeat with her!

Thanks to all for the tips on this forum that came in handy:

-Be kind, but don't be pressured.

-Take a book. A great shield!

-The food is only OK, so leaving for dinner to recharge the batteries is fine. Free for readmission.

-Check and agree services before. All my sessions were agreed at 60 before we left the bar. Some got tips on top. But avoided upselling.

Loved it so much I went back for 3 more on the next day. Including a repeat with Lavinia.

Who cares about some crusty, hairy guys & their tats? Last thing on my mind. I concentrate on the lovely ladies that occupy the place. Everyone else can go to hell.

Guess I'll see you there (Artemis & Hell).

- DSK

Hey Guys,

I've been a silent reader for the past year or so, thanks for all the useful information you guys share here.

Anyway. 2 questions:

1. My first and only visit to Artemis was this past May. I've had an amazing session with with a Moldavian named (I think) Christina (?). Dark blonde hair, light blue eyes, large natural breasts and a large cross-medallion necklace. She's in her early twenties and also said she has a son back in Moldova. I haven't seen anyone mention her, neither before, nor after my session with her though she was both most attractive and gave really good service, IMHO. I might be mistaken regarding the name, anyone know of her and knows if she still works at Artemis?

2. I've just booked a trip to Berlin for this weekend, starting tomorrow. I'm wondering how going to an FKK is in the winter? Is it not too cold to walk around naked / in a bath robe? How well dressed can you come in, considering the lockers being so small?

Sorry if my questions are a bit stupid, and thanks for the info.

Angus Fanboy.

[QUOTE=AMs Fanboy;1373884]Sorry if my questions are a bit stupid, and thanks for the info. Angus Fanboy.[/QUOTE]On locker size-not an issue (they were designed for winter use by the crack winter locker Berlin design team). Plenty of space as long as you leave your skimobile home. On the inside chill, Berlin really not all that cold at the mo, and in any case the Love Bahnhoff is thoroughly heated. Let us put on our common sense hat and ask: what would be needed to allow 70+ girls, notoriously sensitive to chills, to walk around naked, comfortably? In a pinch, you can use the hairdryers to warm your cockels, or just ask some Hell's Angles to give you a group hug. These issues not often discussed here so good you brought them up :eek:.

Not exactly sure about your old flame, could actually be Hungarian, but if it is who I think, she is long gone. But you can always have Angus, if you PM him. He is a cheap date (trust me), and with enough drugs, kind of cute.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1374010]On locker size-not an issue (they were designed for winter use by the crack winter locker Berlin design team). Plenty of space as long as you leave your skimobile home. [/QUOTE]


I bed to differ here. The normal lockers are sufficient for clothes and a jacket. But if you have a large-ish winter jacket and a small back pack the whole thing is pretty snug and sometimes takes a bit of stuffing to fit everything in. Not at all impossible but I have had to struggle a bit to make do. Especially annoying is when you have a few things on hangers and the hanging bar, which is not fixed in place, keeps popping out and everything falls down.

What I usually do is ask for a large size locker when paying my entry. The last (closest to the wall) locker on each row is double size and thus has more room. Sometimes I am told that there are none left (I guess more than a few know of the large lockers) but 9/10 times I get the larger locker.

As for the girl-I do know of a Moldavian girl who fits the description but I am pretty sure while I don't remember her name it is not Christina. I see her there almost every time I go but she often has a very different look each time. She seems to like colouring her hair.

AM (of Fanbois fame)

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1374045]I bed to differ here. The normal lockers are sufficient for clothes and a jacket. But if you have a large-ish winter jacket and a small back pack the whole thing is pretty snug and sometimes takes a bit of stuffing to fit everything in. Not at all impossible but I have had to struggle a bit to make do. AM (of Fanbois fame)[/QUOTE]Well, of course, as you are larger than life. And if you would leave your Kindle, leopard skin pillbox hat, the watermellon snack, and full body condom home, perhaps that might help. I easily pack in a normal locker a small bag for reading materials, my double vibrator, edible condoms, shampoo, etc, and have multiple layers of clothes. For most mortals, it should not be an issue. Agree that the hanger bar pop out is annoying. Ikea has its limits.

God I wish we would just get some sunny days here in Berlin; even with all the lovely P4P options, I am starting to climb the walls (in case it was not obvious).

So, is any of you Berlin guys setting up a dream team to save our girls from the fruit men?

RB, Angus?

LOL.

Kimino

I think I have my first provider crush! I met her about six months ago in Artemis. Good times. I see she's been mentioned before. Can anyone indicate if she's still there? I know she moves around. I'm considering another trip to Berlin. Or elsewhere to chase her, if she's available.

[QUOTE=Kimino;1374721]So, is any of you Berlin guys setting up a dream team to save our girls from the fruit men? Kimino[/QUOTE]Next week is Green Week, then 6 Feb, tutti Fruitti. Can`t feel too sorry for them because all the girls know fully well what they are getting into, which in the end involves lots of Euros.

There are 2 bright spots to this, the gene pool expands and all the beasty boys make the rest of us seem much more civilised (than normal, or than we really are). You just need to go, and leave, a little earlier.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;1374869]Can anyone indicate if she's still there? I know she moves around. I'm considering another trip to Berlin. Or elsewhere to chase her, if she's available.[/QUOTE]Maybe she works in Palace FFM now. Last time I saw her in Artemis was in November 2012.

Having visited oase many times and artemis just 3 times and planning to visit berlin for a change this easter I am interested to find out what members think regarding silicone girls versus natural type girls at artemis. Ie as a rough guide what is the percentage of natural girls versus those that are artificially enhanced at artemis? Much talk of the silicone variety but what are the bets on finding natural next door types at artemis? I know this is higher at oase but I need a change especially as berlin is so far more interesting.

[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1375025]Maybe she works in Palace FFM now. Last time I saw her in Artemis was in November 2012.[/QUOTE]Thank you Suppenhuhn. Yes, she mentioned she worked there as well. But if she's out of the business, all good as well, best of luck to her.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1374045]As for the girl-I do know of a Moldavian girl who fits the description but I am pretty sure while I don't remember her name it is not Christina. I see her there almost every time I go but she often has a very different look each time. She seems to like colouring her hair.[/QUOTE]There's a girl from Moldavia or Romania called Christina. AFAIR she's working in Artemis since spring 2012. A girl called Ghia, her co-worker and friend, has left Artemis for a while. Maybe Christina has left, too.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;1374869]I think I have my first provider crush! I met her about six months ago in Artemis. Good times. I see she's been mentioned before. Can anyone indicate if she's still there? I know she moves around. I'm considering another trip to Berlin. Or elsewhere to chase her, if she's available.[/QUOTE]Yes, I booked her end December in FKK The Palace. Sexy lady!

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1375036]rough guide what is the percentage of natural girls versus those that are artificially enhanced at artemis? Much talk of the silicone variety but what are the bets on finding natural next door types at artemis?[/QUOTE]Well you are in luck, as according to a recent management Big DData research project, the numbers are 68. 6% natural, and 26. 4% enhanced, though these are only rolling 5 year averages, within 2 standard deviations (that is not a perv term by the way). The remaining 5% are either unknown, or have only 1 boob natural and 1 boob enhanced and are difficult to categorize. Then there is another problem-what constitutes a "natural girl next door" look really varies by taste, and oddly enough, the reference neighborhood. In Los Angeles for example, silicon valleys might well be the natural next door look, vs. say gutzy, gritty, natural downtown Khandahar. I know a number of neighborhoods where one is only grateful if a girl does not look like the girl next door.

Then a further complication-is your mood spoiled by having certain thresholds exceeded - say not so many (less than 10 out of 70) are enhanced, but of those, 3 that are are of gargantuan RRR Zepplinesque proportions, bigger than their entire body? Or what if the vast majority are not enhanced but very plain looking, yet some of the enhancientas have wonderful gorgeous faces, super personalities, and even a few have removable dentures for the vaunted "hummer gummer" treatment? Would you still be put off by a few geo-engineering works? What price glory eh? Whew it is getting complicated.

But now, given all this, what your chances of [i]actually[/i] finding these so-called "natural next door" types at a given moment? Well, this varies from day to day, the number of mongers who are with them, the length of their session, the time of day, and most importantly, how long you are prepared to wait. But basically your odds are always 100% over several hours. In other words, really, it's a bit absurd, and don't worry about it.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1375088]There's a girl from Moldavia or Romania called Christina. AFAIR she's working in Artemis since spring 2012. A girl called Ghia, her co-worker and friend, has left Artemis for a while. Maybe Christina has left, too.[/QUOTE]I was 5 times to Artemis I'm November and had 1 session with Gia alone and the next time with both Christina and Gia together, just like 6 month before (they often hunt customers together). Gia had worked at least 2x 10 days the last time I sessioned with her (last weekend in November) and Christina actually arrived the same day, fresh from the airport. I remember Gia said she should go home 1oth December and get a boob-job during the holiday, funny as she 1 or 2 weeks before was very happy with her boobs and did not even think of making them done at all. I asked her why she changed her mind, but she just said she is very impulsive and wanted to fix her boobs, not because of the customers, but because of herself. So I suppose both ladies are back soon. So please post if you see her with new boobs! I think Gia started work Artemis in April, she had only worked 2 weeks first time I sessioned with her. I think Christina has been there longer, but it seems that she work shorter periods (10 days) than Gia, but I suppose money's good anyway.

By the way: Is there any reporty on turkish-german lady Shenai (big black hair and nice ass, sometimes wearing glasses). Last time I saw her she was very fit, lost some weight and was doing weight-training on a regular basis, probably at the gym in the house. Please report&61514.

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1375036]as a rough guide what is the percentage of natural girls versus those that are artificially enhanced at artemis? .[/QUOTE]

Why don't you go, see what ladies you find attractive and go from there. Doesn't matter if a lady is natural if she's homely or fat, well it doesn't to me anyway. Instead of worrying about percentages just go with the flow. If you don't like the talent there, go somewhere else. Hell, Germany isn't that big of a country and it has plenty of brothels. Visit a club, it sucks; drive to another one.

- DSK

[url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Zeppelin_NT_2008-06-24.jpg[/url] There she goes the one that got away the naked zepplinesque girl! I wonder what percentage of zepplins are real and what percentage are in fact star travellers from the andromeda galaxy? Artemis here I come not long now! LOL

It has been many many weeks since this old train pulled into the Love Bahnhoff. So, despite some misgivings about possible crowds due to Green Week here in the olde Haupstadt, in I went. My posse at the front desk said it was really jammed Fri night, but I was in by 6pm, and it seemed quite reasonable. I thought, worst case I will bolt by 22:00, and in any case, I simply had a powerful urge to merge and purge. Turned out to be just a normal Saturday night with only a little waiting when I left around midnight, and not an issue at all.

Saw Romania`s finest, Anna of auburn / blond hair, tall, curvaceous, who was great as always. Later tried newish Irena (?) also from those parts, black hair, very curvy (naturals for you planet patrolers) but way too PSE did not kiss, and though she is indeed quite pretty, not to be repeated. Shame. Anyway there were easily 20+ new recruits though not many to RB's womanly tastes, and surprisingly, a lot of the A-Team not there (or perhaps not recovered from the draining prior night). A bit disappointed as I was hoping to bump into a few old favs, but still a pleasant night. Poondorf remains off limits, although yours truely took a refractory period stroll through the chilly grounds which seem fully built out now-the fresh air a needed blast from the main room which seemed more smokey than usual, probably due to less airing out with the cold weather.

The main discussion in the news room (the ever informed masseurs and their local groupies) is that some Green politician is trying to close the flat rate clubs in Schoeneberg (Caligula and King George) and possibly the Erlebeniswohnung as well, on grounds of exploitation or who knows what. Nobody seemed to really know, but stay tuned. Could be an Artemis plot to stamp out the competition. But we will see how far that goes as a fair number of politicians probably frequent the places in question.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1375511]It has been many many weeks since this old train pulled into the Love Bahnhoff. So, despite some misgivings about possible crowds due to Green Week here in the olde Haupstadt, in I went.[/QUOTE]It seems like a difficult transition for the girls from the sandal-wearing, lentil- eating, after-you-dear Greens, to the filthy fuckers from the fruit freight federation. Let's hope they cope well.

Sorry let me get this straight. Its a Green politician or a Greek politician?

Either way seems bizarre.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1375511]The main discussion in the news room (the ever informed masseurs and their local groupies) is that some Green politician is trying to close the flat rate clubs in Schoeneberg (Caligula and King George) and possibly the Erlebeniswohnung as well .[/QUOTE]

Boys-

You can be sure the Arts team can cope with just about anything thrown at them, with the help of sufficient Euros. And amazingly enough, the use of the old love Wurst is remarkably the same regardless of one's station in life, political persuasion, or ideological moorings. Part of nature's plan to keep the gene pool shaken, not stirred.

Bearsk-our Crusader is indeed a "Green" politician, as in the Greens Political Party (die Grünen). Not a newbee or inexperienced or ill politician. A little digging via a brief consultation with the digital oracle produced this:

[url]http://www.bz-berlin.de/aktuell/berlin/gruene-flatrate-bordelle-sollen-dichtmachen-article1620742.html[/url]

Continued this with highly un-nuanced translation in the Berlin thread, where it belongs.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1375667]Boys-

You can be sure the Arts team can cope with just about anything thrown at them, with the help of sufficient Euros. And amazingly enough, the use of the old love Wurst is remarkably the same regardless of one's station in life, political persuasion, or ideological moorings. Part of nature's plan to keep the gene pool shaken, not stirred.

Bearsk-our Crusader is indeed a "Green" politician, as in the Greens Political Party (die Grünen). Not a newbee or inexperienced or ill politician. A little digging via a brief consultation with the digital oracle produced this:

[url]http://www.bz-berlin.de/aktuell/berlin/gruene-flatrate-bordelle-sollen-dichtmachen-article1620742.html[/url]

Continued this with highly un-nuanced translation in the Berlin thread, where it belongs.[/QUOTE]Excuse me if I explain badly.

I hear this from law cases in the south of Germany. You read in the law reports news. There was a court ruling or maybe a local government ruling based on labour laws that a worker cannot give their "anime" which I can best translate as their "consent", for less than say a minimum wage. This case opened the doors that the flat rate club model breaches the minimum wage laws if I understand the logic correct. The Green politician I think is trying to stand up for workers rights that these girls fuck for so little and as such cannot be doing so of their own free will.

The case was heard I think in the middle of 2012. So I expect it may take some time for this precedent to be propagated further than the local jurisdiction where the case was originally held.

Excuse me if this explanation is badly explained.

It's not only about minimum wage, this doesn't exist for P6, otherwise it would affect e. G. The RLD in FFM where you can fuck for 20€ BB. It's all about trafficking, inhumane working conditions and women who can't decide if to go or not to go with a client. It's a grey zone, the club in Schönefeld was closed because of trafficking and abstraction of wages. It's a field politicians like to play on for their own purposes. So let's wait and see.

HB

I've been at artemis last Thursday.

I'm at home now with flu and fever.

Do you are aware of any STD spreading in the club?

I'm a bit worried.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1375701]It's a field politicians like to play on for their own purposes. So let's wait and see. HB[/QUOTE]Agree HB. But think now this should best go forward in the BERLIN thread vs here.
Mea culpa for starting it here-only that it came up during our Artemis news review last night. I did put it in the Berlin thread with the longer translation for those interested:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1375662&viewfull=1#post1375662[/url]

'Nuf said.

[QUOTE=MrScreen79; 1375755]I've been at artemis last Thursday.

I'm at home now with flu and fever.

Do you are aware of any STD spreading in the club?

I'm a bit worried.

Thanks[/QUOTE]You may have picked up the common cold or flu from kissing or the cold weather.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1375701 The RLD in FFM where you can fuck for 20€ BB.

Sorry for going off topic, but do I understand correctly that in Frankfurt you fuck bareback for 20 euros?

[QUOTE=EastGoing;1376039]Sorry for going off topic, but do I understand correctly that in Frankfurt you fuck bareback for 20 euros?[/QUOTE]In the RLD. Yes.

HB

In an attempt to get the thread back on track.

I returned after a considerable break to find a lot of new talent but then proceeding to poke the old talent.

Mary (Bul). Blonde, natural C cups, in great shape.

Fatima (Slo). Brunette, truly remarkable shape and person.

Gabristza (Hun). Previously identified as a natural breast lovers fantasy on this board, proceeded to slurpy BBBJ like a girl with a real mission.

New talent noted:

Franscesca. Brunette Rom, wears glasses, young and popular.

Martina. 21 yo, brunette from Bulgaria, petite, piercing dark eyes, excellent body.

Stefania, young German / Spanish girl with beautiful face and eyes, curvaceous, large natural Bs.

Waif like creature, thin but pretty girl sits near video games in stairwell with scribed tattoss over torso and arm. Quiet and unsmiling, may need an Uncle Angus introductory tutorial for Artemis.

Back Monday to do the rounds then home. For those interested, no visit to the Frankfurt RLD.

When is the new wing scheduled to be done and open for visits? I just found someone that said it was going to be open on the 29th of September 2012, but I haven't seen any inputs about it. So, how is it?

Lunched with RB and AM in Berlin.

Arrived around 5pm. Good number of girls, good quality.

Planned up to 3 sessions:

Started with a double session with Mary and Martina (Rom).

I had wondered if Martina did not like me but turns out her German, Italian and Spanish are good but English not.

It was an excellent session, Mary was in usual form. Martina proved enthusiastic, adept and hot. DFK, BBBJ, FK. All with major gusto. She is a hot petite (? 157cm) brunette with B cups, excellent nipples, great eye contact, superb lips. Lots of encouragement. She requested a second round of DATY. Certainly one to remember and the duo was excellent especially coordinated BBBJ. Martina's English improved during the session; I gave her a small gift with payment, she actually blushed.

With minimal recovery time, I ran into Carmen, a crazy 180cm Romanian girl I had not seen in almost 3 years. That was eventful and well worth it although I could not CIM. Stellar action.

I was then totally spent. My mind told me I wanted to try with Alev, an especially hot Turkish girl from Frankfurt. I had sessioned with her in Oct 2012 when she first started and was king of lonely (actually I did her twice, including the now infamous session in the Kino where a guy with a penile implant was undertaking self love as he stood in the door of one of the rooms. He assuredly was looking at her, not mee. At least I hope). I did my best to fix that. Now she's a regular contestant up the stairs to the Zimmer to the point where you can't catch her. She was available late Monday but I was dead from the waist down. Maybe next time.

It was good short trip. I will try not to do Sunday-Monday again although it was excellent. The food is worse but the girls were outstanding. To those who were asking about silicone. This was a silicone free trip. There's enough around if you want it but it does not appeal to me unless the girl is spectacular.

Stay warm.

I asked around, including the doctor for the club. Nein.

One girl is back in Romania with a really bad flu, but she has been away for more than 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=MrScreen79; 1375755]I've been at artemis last Thursday.

I'm at home now with flu and fever.

Do you are aware of any STD spreading in the club?

I'm a bit worried.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk;1376480]Certainly one to remember and the duo was excellent especially coordinated BBBJ. Martina's English improved during the session[/QUOTE]B- nice to see you and nice to see you have a new career as a language instructor.

Your teaching method is unique, almost counter-intuitive, and should make some useful DVDs: eg "Bearsk's Guide To Improving Your English Dicktion, in Easily Digestible Bits".

[QUOTE=ZimmerSchatz;1375102]Yes.[/QUOTE]Me and my bro from the same ho?

[QUOTE=Hif84;1376338]When is the new wing scheduled to be done and open for visits? I just found someone that said it was going to be open on the 29th of September 2012, but I haven't seen any inputs about it. So, how is it?[/QUOTE]It, what we call Poondorf, was open briefly then, as part of the Bahnhoff Birthday bash, but it was only about 90% complete. It has not been open since, and I tried several times to be the first to use a room, unsuccessfully, even though I had willing partners (amazing what 60 Euros will do). It is still closed but if one is discrete, you can easily walk through it all from the basement side door, which leads outside, just to the left of the saunas, or even out the kitchen from the side exits (there are 2). I have strolled through it many times and it seems quite done now, including the back new sauna and shower area which was very much a work in progress in Oct. There are large basement storage areas underneath it which are in use now, accessible to staff only from behind the downstairs bar.

There were some optimistic thoughts way back that the jacuzzi and pool could stay open during the winter (they are full and heated, the pool has a fancy electric sliding cover) , and the small romping rooms do have individual heaters. But management has decided not to open now, with a fair bit of snow and ice covering all the walkways and terraces, and temperatures dropping to. 10° C or less at night.

I always thought it was unfortunate that they did not to try to cover the main connecting side pathway between the main building and the new rooms area, continuing right through to the new saunas, as it is kind of a narrow street. It would be easy to do so and allow protected year round access at least to the new rooms and jacuzzi. It would be great to have a few more rooms when things get busy and a decent jacuzzi. But all the drippings and moisture would probably ice up the surrounds, people would fall, break limbs etc, the whole thing would need to be shoveled off and maintained, all just constant hassles. So it is like it is, and probably not open til at least March or so.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1376913]It, what we call Poondorf, was open briefly then, as part of the Bahnhoff Birthday bash, but it was only about 90% complete. It has not been open since, and I tried several times to be the first to use a room, unsuccessfully, even though I had willing partners (amazing what 60 Euros will do). It is still closed but if one is discrete, you can easily walk through it all from the basement side door, which leads outside, just to the left of the saunas, or even out the kitchen from the side exits (there are 2). I have strolled through it many times and it seems quite done now, including the back new sauna and shower area which was very much a work in progress in Oct. There are large basement storage areas underneath it which are in use now, accessible to staff only from behind the downstairs bar.

There were some optimistic thoughts way back that the jacuzzi and pool could stay open during the winter (they are full and heated, the pool has a fancy electric sliding cover) , and the small romping rooms do have individual heaters. But management has decided not to open now, with a fair bit of snow and ice covering all the walkways and terraces, and temperatures dropping to. 10° C or less at night.

I always thought it was unfortunate that they did not to try to cover the main connecting side pathway between the main building and the new rooms area, continuing right through to the new saunas, as it is kind of a narrow street. It would be easy to do so and allow protected year round access at least to the new rooms and jacuzzi. It would be great to have a few more rooms when things get busy and a decent jacuzzi. But all the drippings and moisture would probably ice up the surrounds, people would fall, break limbs etc, the whole thing would need to be shoveled off and maintained, all just constant hassles. So it is like it is, and probably not open til at least March or so.[/QUOTE]New wing sound great! And new sauna is maybe steam sauna? As Artemis do not have one. I hope it is as I love steam sauna more than normal sauna.

But it is sad that new wing is not connected to the main building. I mean there should be inside path or something, otherwise in winter it is quite freezing to walk outside. Maybe they might build some inside path at one point?

Has any of you seen half italian half Romanian girl called I think her name is Gordana recently? She is around 170cm, slim, small tits, but beautiful face with black hair.

It was Immersion Dicktion English with 2 tongues. DVD currently in production, Bulgarian first edition.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1376610]B- nice to see you and nice to see you have a new career as a language instructor.

Your teaching method is unique, almost counter-intuitive, and should make some useful DVDs: eg "Bearsk's Guide To Improving Your English Dicktion, in Easily Digestible Bits".[/QUOTE]

Can anybody post a list of the best girls at Artemis?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Joe Tnb; 1377721]Can anybody post a list of the best girls at Artemis?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I suggest, Read this:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1377512&viewfull=1#post1377512[/url]

Then read the thread and finally head on over to Artemis and have fun.

AM

[QUOTE=Shinai;1371306]After I tried her for the next two visits to Artemis in 6 months I did not see her again.[/QUOTE]According to the German forum she is once again back at Artemis, at least she was there this week.

For anyone interested.

A

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1378336]According to the German forum she is once again back at Artemis, at least she was there this week.

For anyone interested.

A[/QUOTE]Angus, do you know the current prices (entrance fee, sessions) at Artemis?

Lulu was at Palace when I was there on both days, Jan 18th and 19th. Which German forums is this? Can you PM me the link? I'd like to read more info. Thanks.

It's a very good and correct information in the german forum: Lulu is back in Artemis, I saw her on Thursday together with Annika.

[url]http://www.verkehrsberichte.de/wb/index.php?page=Thread&postID=363783#post363783[/url]

Will someone without a membership be able to view this?

Also I tend to not post the address of other forums in the open forum. Not sure just how Jackson feels about this even when it is not really a competing forum (directly competing)

AM

No, you need a membership. There's a line-up posted as part of a report:

[quote]Wer war da ? Jayda (D), Jenna (D), Candy (D), Titten-Tina (D), Xenia (D), Samy (D, teils mit Brille), Suri (D), Naddel (D), Nella (D), Floriana (D/ALB), Chayenne (D), Holly (D), Blair (D), Daisy (D), Susi (D), Chanel (D), Annika (D, zurück aus dem Palace), Antonia (ROM), Manuela (ROM), Amelia (ROM), Amely (ROM/HUN), Lavinia (ROM), Iris (ROM), Mariebelle (ROM), Sheenya (ROM(MOL), Soledad (ROM), Miss Schlauchbootlippen (HUN), Laura (HUN), Virginia (HUN), Ruby (HUN), sweet Hannah (PL), Marzilla (PL), Cindy (PL), Paulina (PL), Samantha (BUL), Shannon (BUL), Petra (BUL), Nicoletta (BUL), Mary (BUL), Inga (THA),[b] Lulu (AUT, wieder da, mit einem markanten Tattoo, ein Traum )[/b], Nina (CZ), Katja (SVK), Fatima (SVK), Ella (RUS), Funda (TÜR), Melis (TÜR) und auch irgendwelche von den Carlas/Karlas, evtl. sogar beide. In Addition waren sicher deutlich über 100 Frauen buchbar.[/quote]HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1378545]No, you need a membership. There's a line-up posted as part of a report:

HB[/QUOTE]Any idea if Chayenne is the one that was working in Palace 2 maybe 3 years ago?

Kimino

@Hessen Bub.

Thank you, what diligent people in German forum :-)))) Its great.

I think these forums are absolut not competing and therefore its OK for me to link.

But you are right that you need a membership for Verkehrsberichte.

[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1378769]think these forums are absolut not competing and therefore its OK for me to link.[/QUOTE]I agree. However it is not important what you and I think. We are not the owners of the forum. It is probably ok (and has not been deleted) so I do not want to make a big deal about it. I did want to point it out though that Jackson could have a issue with it. That is all.

AM

I am quite sure I have posted links to LSH and Roemerforum here, no complaints. These are local boards with a small portion of international reports, and they are in German.

HB

Writes a late report on my visit to Artemis. Thursday's Pub visits meant that I arrived at Artemis little later than I thought. It was 15:30 when I went the last bit from Halensee station to the club. The weather was bright but cold. Once inside the club, I was told that 50 girls were working at the moment, but that up to 100 girls later in the evening was to be expected. The atmosphere was as usual relaxed and friendly and I was happy to be back since my last visit in August.

New faces mixed with old. Did not see blonde german Sara, a woman that is a feast for the eyes, even petite Alexandra with her black beautiful hair and body was not present. I was happy to see the two half-sisters that I heard about, but saw no significant similarity. A beauty that presented herself was from Bulgaria. She had an amazing beautiful face with large dark eyes and dark hair. Unfortunately I do not remember the name. I need to start writing them up.

We had to wait for available room as always a Friday night. I sat in the big theater, waiting for a free room with a Turkish woman with a pair of big boobs. Fondled her breast while couple after couple came in and shouted "Letzt?" The waiting time was to long for some and soon I was surrounded by three couples having sex.

At two in the morning, it was quiet, and most guests sat and talked. Everyone seemed pleased when few went up to the rooms. A couple of girls, with extra energy (high on too much coffee) , began to play 'Hide and Seek'. They laughed hysterically when they ran and hid in the room. We followed curiously their play and I could not help but laugh with. I saw the other girls' facial expressions that they were equally amused and a little surprised at what happened.

All in all, I spent time with four girls and left the club with a smile and a few hundred euros poorer. Next day I was heading to 'Erlebniswohnung' for my first gangbang.

Hello FKK-specialists!

How big of an impact does the congresses and events at the Messe have on "the love banhof"? I guess it depends on which type of event it is? I'm asking because I really don't like when it gets to crowded. Mid February seems promising, looking at the schedule on the Messe-site.

[QUOTE=Finite;1379376]How big of an impact does the congresses and events at the Messe have on "the love banhof"? I guess it depends on which type of event it is? I'm asking because I really don't like when it gets to crowded. Mid February seems promising, looking at the schedule on the Messe-site.[/QUOTE]Fruit Logistica (06/07/08 Feb) : crowded, sometimes overcrowded for sure, every single night. But the choice is yours: a lot of lasses available.

ITB (06/07/08/09/10 Mar) : crowded. Try to avoid weekend nights.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer; 1379384]Fruit Logistica (06/07/08 Feb) : crowded, sometimes overcrowded for sure, every single night. But the choice is yours: a lot of lasses available.

ITB (06/07/08/09/10 Mar) : crowded. Try to avoid weekend nights.[/QUOTE]Are the lineup the weekend after the "fruitboys" have left town so much weaker? But I guess the place could be crowded even if there are no congress in the city.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1378582]Any idea if Chayenne is the one that was working in Palace 2 maybe 3 years ago?

Kimino[/QUOTE]Is this the German lass from Dusseldorf or Cologne with strawberry blonde hair and a fantastic set of tits?

If so, I have seen her around at the Love Banhof but this was quite some time ago.

Howie

[QUOTE=Finite;1379386]Are the lineup the weekend after the "fruitboys" have left town so much weaker? But I guess the place could be crowded even if there are no congress in the city.[/QUOTE]I find that all the trying to figure out when is the best line up is a bit of a waste of time. Many of the ladies who work at Artemis are fairly regular while some work a couple to a few weeks then take a couple weeks off. Some might pay attention to the Messe schedule but I think other factors in the personal life are just as if not more important. There may be some more hardcore girls who swoop in for the big Messe but then these are the ladies in whom I generally have no interest, big fake boobs lots of make up etc.

So I would just look at the days of the week as factors towards when Is a better night. Plenty has been said of this in the forum over the past year (Rocketboy's post are good to look for) and in any case which days are better is pretty obvious. Th only reason to keep an eye on the Messe schedule is that a bit Messe sometimes means more punters and this can mean the place gets too damn crowded. Over all the quality of the line up stays pretty constant in my experience.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1379621]IThere may be some more hardcore girls who swoop in for the big Messe but then these are the ladies in whom I generally have no interest, big fake boobs lots of make up etc. So I would just look at the days of the week as factors towards when Is a better night.

AM[/QUOTE]Most def. Only a few remarks here. Beyond Angus' hardcore honeys, Messe's can also bring in a variety of new talents which can be worth a look. Apart from really the monster IFA Messe in Sept, most crowding can be managed (as has been said ad nausem) just by going and leaving little earlier. But just [i]after [/i] a larger Messe, you can be sure the lineup is a bit weaker than normal, even on weaker days (SUN-TUES). The gang is just spent, fed up with mongers and all their jive, and some of the hotties could take off for a week. It only stands to reason.

So vaguely, you can adjust your schedule accordingly. Unless you cannot, in which case, the days of the week are the thing as Angus says, and they are the thing even during a Messe. The "quieter" days have their laid back charms, but on a sheer numbers basis, there are less choices as well. I say all this only for those few who venture to the Love Bahnhoff only very rarely, over vast distances and involving huge travel expense vs those of us who live here. If you really want to increase your odds of better choices and less hassles, factor all this in. At least knowing the Messe schedule is useful and can be seen here: [url]http://www.messe-berlin.de/en/[/url]

The one ace we have up our sleeves is of course shopping. Eventually, even the most exhausted, raw-rubbed girls just can't control themselves and so must top up the accounts. The most important logical identity, perhaps even the most basic evolutionary equation that drives the universe is not E=MC2. Rather it is: sex is to men as shopping is to women. So generally, within a few days, all back to normal.

Thanks for the reply's!

I'm going on a weekendtrip, anything else wouldn't be possible as I have to work the other days of the week. Never visited on a Friday, last time I was there it was "Dessous Day", I like it better when they are completly naked. Also like to come in quite early, and leave if it gets to crowded.

Best Regards.

/Finite

[QUOTE=Finite;1379760]I'm going on a weekendtrip, anything else wouldn't be possible as I have to work the other days of the week. Never visited on a Friday, last time I was there it was "Dessous Day", I like it better when they are completly naked. Also like to come in quite early, and leave if it gets to crowded.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are all set then. Friday / Saturday is always a decent night and if you plan to arrive early (mid to late afternoon) you get the day shift and get to see the evening shift arrive. They are usually all there by around 20:00. On the busier nights, and usually most weekend nights, the real busy time does not start until around 22:00 or 23:00. There is often a weird lull at around 21:00 when there seems to be a huge supply of girls and not many men. This can be good except that at this time many girls seem more interested in talking with their friends.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1379762]Sounds like you are all set then. Friday / Saturday is always a decent night and if you plan to arrive early (mid to late afternoon) you get the day shift and get to see the evening shift arrive. They are usually all there by around 20:00. On the busier nights, and usually most weekend nights, the real busy time does not start until around 22:00 or 23:00. There is often a weird lull at around 21:00 when there seems to be a huge supply of girls and not many men. This can be good except that at this time many girls seem more interested in talking with their friends.

AM[/QUOTE]The weird lull [LOL] I recognize, but I usally leave right after. Well I'm going in the midle of the month, maybe I'll se some of you with out knowing. Friday is also a good day to chase non-p4p girls in Berlin at the "technoclubs".

Manish boy Finite.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1379717]The "quieter" days have their laid back charms, but on a sheer numbers basis, there are less choices as well. I say all this only for those few who venture to the Love Bahnhoff only very rarely, over vast distances and involving huge travel expense vs those of us who live here. If you really want to increase your odds of better choices and less hassles, factor all this in.[/QUOTE]I attend randomly and from great distance.

Last time I attended on Sunday and Monday; it was quieter but the quality was great. Generally I was pleased but the food was not great.

If old friends are around I go with them; if not make new friends.

The only thing is, I do hate waiting for the rooms and have fucked a couple of girls in the bottom of the laundry basket at the tops of the stairs.

It was erotic and the sway effect was great, but I was wenched in and winched out.

[QUOTE=Bearsk;1379952]I have fucked a couple of girls in the bottom of the laundry basket at the tops of the stairs[/QUOTE]Well this confirms what I always suspected; you are indeed a basket case. :cool:.

Does anyone know if the annual meeting of daimler ag at the messe on 10/4 is a high impact on artemis in terms of visitors to artemis from the messe? It may coincide with my trip. Thanks.

Arrived at Art around 19:00. None of my favourites around, was told that many girls took their day off today because last night was particularly dead, maybe bs but that's what a girl told me. Polish team missing, no Marsha, Laura, Ivy etc. At the beginning I was quite disappointed but I said to myself it was a good night to try new talents and partially that's what I did.

First girl was Lulu, already reported her in the past. I didn't have a great session at the time but her look is so great that I'm constantly attracted by her. Austrian optiflick, worked in Palace, actually she still goes there some times. This time the session was much better. Anal. Enjoyed, will probably repeat.

Giselle, hardcore Romanian from Yasi. Doll face, blonde, heavy red lipstick. Doesn't look Romanian actually. Kind of a biggish ass. Plain vanilla 60 euro session, very passionate. Recommended. I couldn't come.

Don't know how that happened but I ended up in a room with Soledad, I like her personality, hate her voice and didn't session with her for the last two years. Anyway, she gave me a great BJ with cim, finishing what I didn't finish with Giselle.

At that point I was ready to go, didn't want to spend more money, wanted to save some energy for tomorrow and bla bla bla. Hanged around a bit. Tasted the most crappy food I ever tryed in Artemis, relaxed a bit.

Around midnight, I decided to pick one of the two german girls I've been watching all evening. Grabbed the first one I reached and discovered my absolute dream girl!

Anika, Stuttgart, blonde pony tail tall nice body, fake boobs, wonderfull ass. Tatoos everywhere. Worked / works at Palace, very good friend with Joy (that BTW apparently quitted the job).

On my last trip in Berlin, I rejected her a couple of times and she walked away almost biting me. At the time, my pov was: "if it walks like a shark, if she talks like a shark, must be a shark". I was completely wrong about her, a real eye candy, very very passionate, kisses, super hot, great at BJ, does anal and actually likes it a lot. Stayed a full hour but just couldn't come. Both swetted like pigs. Requires quite a bit of energy. I enjoyed every second in that room. Will repeat tomorrow, highly recommended.

The other german girl that attracts me a lot and that I will try tomorrow is from Hamburg. Optiflick, blonde short hair with a pony tail or similar. She has enourmous angel wings on her back plus lot's of other tatoos.

Apart from her, my list for tomorrow will include Anika, Janita (also from Palace) , and maybe either Marsha or Laura, if I have enough energy, doubt it.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino;1380394]Don't know how that happened but I ended up in a room with Soledad, I like her personality, hate her voice and didn't session with her for the last two years. Anyway, she gave me a great BJ with cim, finishing what I didn't finish with Giselle.[/QUOTE]As always a great report Kimino with names and just enough detail to let us in on the action but not so much as to make it a candidate for Penthouse forum. How a report should be written.

And the above gave me a good chuckle.

"Honestly, I don't know what happened. I slipped and when I came to my dick was hard and in her mouth."

At the very least you figured out a way not to have to hear her voice.

Anyway, good to meet with you Kimino and maybe next time you come I will join you at Artemis if it is later on in the spring.

AM

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1380349]Does anyone know if the annual meeting of daimler ag at the messe on 10/4 is a high impact on artemis in terms of visitors to artemis from the messe? It may coincide with my trip. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I am sure it will have an effect but as RB repeatedly has pointed out it is only the really big events that make Artemis go crazy (IFA, Fruit Logistica, Venus).

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1380394]The other german girl that attracts me a lot and that I will try tomorrow is from Hamburg. Optiflick, blonde short hair with a pony tail or similar. She has enourmous angel wings on her back plus lot's of other tatoos.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Sounds like Ciarra, my all time favourite Artemis girl. Quite short (approx. 5 foot) , big fake tits with a star tattoo above each of her tits?

[QUOTE=Kimino;1380394]The other german girl that attracts me a lot and that I will try tomorrow is from Hamburg. Optiflick, blonde short hair with a pony tail or similar. She has enourmous angel wings on her back plus lot's of other tatoos.[/QUOTE]Thanks for a nice report from the Love Bahnhof! Would this mysterious German optifick happen to be Blair I wonder? She could fit the description, and there's even a photo at the Artemis website. She has a great body, and it was in fact a good session, even if she stated that she wouldn't kiss for any amount of money.

[QUOTE=Kimino;1380394]First girl was Lulu, already reported her in the past. I didn't have a great session at the time but her look is so great that I'm constantly attracted by her. Austrian optiflick, worked in Palace, actually she still goes there some times. This time the session was much better. Anal. Enjoyed, will probably repeat.[/QUOTE]Nice to hear that Lulu is still there. I like her look and had a decent time with her my last trip to Artemis. May be back in Deutschland soon and wouldn't mind hooking up with her again. I was with a lot of the Berliners last trip. Has anyone see Suzie or Sammie there recently? They are both Berliners as I remember. Had fun with those two.

- DSK

[QUOTE=Devilspinkick;1380911]Has anyone see Suzie or Sammie there recently?[/QUOTE]Suzie is still there recently as well as Sammie. Spotted both of them last week.

[QUOTE=Galazy2;1380708]Sounds like Ciarra, my all time favourite Artemis girl. Quite short (approx. 5 foot) , big fake tits with a star tattoo above each of her tits?[/QUOTE]I'm sorry, the lass Kimino's talking about isn't Ciarra.

Second day at Artemis. Arrived there real early with Rocketboy. We were there around 2pm.

Waited a while and finally spotted the girl I was talking about on the previous report.

Nadia (hope the spelling is correct) , german from Hamburg, tall, blonde, hair pulled back up in a kind of short tail. She has a bit of an aggressive look and her expression reminds a lot Ivy. But as soon as you start talking or interacting in some way she smiles and softens up. Really big wings tatoo on her back plus a bunch of other tatoos in other areas of her body. Makes up a group with Annika, Lulu, and a couple of other tall german girls (that I always avoided). They were always hanging around on the right just after going through the glass door to the main area. At first sight she does look sharky but she is not. To further demonstrate that it's really hard to judge a girls attitude before you take her to a room. Didn't ask her anything before going up but in the room she was very passionate and participative. Her look made the whole experience great. Going doggie seeing her enormous angel wings was fun. Doesn't kiss, no anal, enjoys DATY a lot. Stayed an hour + cim. Highly recommended if her look is in your taste.

Lulu started being quite pushy and kept on doing this quite a bit, I was not going to repeat with her as her performance is not particularly great, but is she beautiful

Later on I decided to repeat with Annika (previously reported) , another hour + anal. Again recommended.

Around 2am I then picked up Nicole, Czech, friend with Nina, blonde big girl also previously reported, we ended up staying for a lot of time, at my watch around 80min. Strangely she didn't want DATY (she did during last session) , fucked some time but for the rest she kept giving me this endless BJ. Kind of amazing how she got into it. We had a cigarette together and then left the room.

Around 3:30 I saw Janita (Palace) around the cash dispenser area. A kiss, short chat and that was it, no energy left and already feeling stupid for the economics of this trip. Pity I didn't spot her before.

A lot of the regular girls still missing. None of the Polish gang was there, Laura missing, Esther, Ivy, Natasha, Natalia, Marsha, just to name some of the ones I usually look for.

Unverified gossip. Two different girls told me some datails about how the schedule in Artemis works. All girls starting to work at 11am can then leave at 8pm. Any girl coming in after 11 will have to stay until 5am. So, normally, new girls start coming in in the afternoon, let's say around 5/6/7. But if a girl decides to come in at 12 or 1pm, she will have to stay until 5am.

Some considerations. My mood during this trip, as often happens, was to just have fun, looking for great sessions, and not worrying too much about the time or money. The girls I reported as being great all were obviously happy about it, so my report should be weighed on this. I don't know how some of them would have performed if I had been strict from the first second saying I only wanted a basic 30min. Thing. I'm kind of sure they would have performed in the same way but I can't be totally sure about it.

Kimino

1. Ciarra is from Poland. Haven't seen her at Artemis since 2011. Unfortunately. 5 star service from a 6 star girl.

2. Thank you Kimino. Berlin next week, and your reports are highly appreciated. 5 star report from a 7 star gentleman.

Z

Again solid reporting Kimino.

[QUOTE=Kimino;1380982]Around 2am I then picked up Nicole, Czech, friend with Nina, blonde big girl also previously reported, we ended up staying for a lot of time, at my watch around 80min. Strangely she didn't want DATY (she did during last session) , fucked some time but for the rest she kept giving me this endless BJ. Kind of amazing how she got into it. We had a cigarette together and then left the room.[/QUOTE]My feeling with Nicole is that she does like to please and is not always into DATY and being pleased. I seem to remember my forst time with her I licked her but she was not all that responsive. Subsequently I have just let her call the shots and she does an amazing job pleasing while I lie back and enjoy. While I usually do like to participate more with her this lying back does seem to have a great benefit-her BJ is truly spectacular I find and she can keep it up and going really for as long as you can manage.

[QUOTE=Kimino;1380982]Unverified gossip. Two different girls told me some datails about how the schedule in Artemis works. All girls starting to work at 11am can then leave at 8pm. Any girl coming in after 11 will have to stay until 5am. So, normally, new girls start coming in in the afternoon, let's say around 5/6/7. But if a girl decides to come in at 12 or 1pm, she will have to stay until 5am.[/QUOTE]I have heard this too but I also know some girls who have been there a long time manage to get around this rule. One of my most regular wives (hehehe) I know arrives later than 11:00 and leaves often in the early morning. But she has been there a number of years and seems to have free run of the place.

[QUOTE=Kimino;1380982]Some considerations. My mood during this trip, as often happens, was to just have fun, looking for great sessions, and not worrying too much about the time or money. The girls I reported as being great all were obviously happy about it, so my report should be weighed on this. I don't know how some of them would have performed if I had been strict from the first second saying I only wanted a basic 30min. Thing. I'm kind of sure they would have performed in the same way but I can't be totally sure about it.[/QUOTE]It is a hard and undeniable truth that you will get somewhat better service over all with the attitude you mention. I really notice that now that I am generally a half hour guy I have to be a lot more selective about the girls I see. Many girls will soften considerably once you announce that you are in for the hour and may well take extras. Plus as you are a fairly regular customer at Artemis I am sure that your reputation precedes you.

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino;1380982]Unverified gossip. Two different girls told me some datails about how the schedule in Artemis works. All girls starting to work at 11am can then leave at 8pm. Any girl coming in after 11 will have to stay until 5am. So, normally, new girls start coming in in the afternoon, let's say around 5/6/7. But if a girl decides to come in at 12 or 1pm, she will have to stay until 5am.[/QUOTE]No unverified gossip, verified facts.

But note: morning deadline is noon, not 11 am (some girls tell: 11:30 am). Deadline means: you have to arrive (to pay your entrance fee) , but you don't have to start working.

[QUOTE=Kimino;1380982]Second day at Artemis. Arrived there real early with Rocketboy. We were there around 2pm.Kimino[/QUOTE]The olde saying applies- 'tis the early worm that catches the bird.

My experiences "downtown" are that in general, earlier arrival also helps in that department. 10+ tongues and many hours later, most clits have had enough. Who would have guessed.

Good times were had all around. Good range of choices, pleasantly full but not crowded at all. Thursdays really could be the optimal night. Some lowlights: I did hear a fine story from one who was there that an elderly fellow in the middle of a session asked to be hit hard. She refused. So he just finished up, then removed the loaded condom and drank his gunk. And people say romance in dead in an FKK.

K & I in recovery mode (not from each other) often drift to the subject of how different male and female sexuality is. To prove some point, we tried to enquire with several of the crack staff would they ever go to an FKK for women, a wellness thing and pay 80 Euros to see 100 or so guys prancing around, so a woman could have their wicked ways multiple times over several hours with different men?? The consensus was it was easier to just to go to a supermarket or petrol station.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1381012]The consensus was it was easier to just to go to a supermarket or petrol station.[/QUOTE]Might I ask which supermarket and petrol station?

AM

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1380933]Suzie is still there recently as well as Sammie. Spotted both of them last week.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear that. Suzie wanted a special item from the US that aparently isn't available in Deutschland, so I told her I'd try to bring one for her when I return. Her buddy Sammie. Tall, thin, big fake boobs. Oh yeh. Think I'll have to get her a little something too. I reckon I'm not the only guy to give women presents and stuff, hope it's not bad etiquette.

- DSK

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1381019]Might I ask which supermarket and petrol station? AM[/QUOTE]Yes you may. Pretty much any.

Berlin being the innovative Poonstadt that it is, is running some new marketing concepts. So for example the new van Kampen locale is literally 5 meters from an Aldi supermarket. That way, everyone can hedge their bets and shop for whatever is needed. And of course the Liebe Bahnhoff is right past a tire shop. So whomever gets a flat, or just needs something with more grip, or wider treat can get things sorted at either place.

(Note: I have written reports using the name 'Galazy' but I've lost access to that account so I'm now 'Galazy2')

Thanks Zimmerbaby, I think it's time I moved on from my Ciarra obsession, I think that ship has sailed. We had some great times.

[B]Friday 1st Feb[/B]

Made my first trip of the year to the A yesterday. I arrived around 14. 30. The club was quiet, maybe 20 girls and a similar number of guys. I recognised Nina and Jenna and some other familiar faces I couldn't put a name to.

The atmosphere was good and after a couple of circuits and a sauna I decided it was time for my first session. I had a look for Nina but she was nowhere to be seen. So after a few knockbacks I got chatting with Svenya. I'the had a great time with Svenya in the past so after a nice conversation we headed upstairs.

[B]Svenya from Germany[/B]

In the room we had the usual pre-session conversation. I normally make sure that we've had this talk in the bar but I'the done time with Svenya before so I wasn't too worried. I explained that'the I'the like to stay for an hour and maybe tack on some extras. She gave me the usual shopping list but included one item I had never been offered before at the Artemis; a viberator in my ass. I always enjoy a finger in there during a BJ but I've never had a toy in there so I gave the green light to that.

We had a great session together; just one orgasm in the hour and Svenya used the condom-covered toy like a magician. Very interesting session and Svenya is definitely on my repeat list. She's a great girl and I really enjoyed my time with her.

I hung out and read my book for a while then went looking for my second session. I had an itch that only a blonde could scratch. Blondes are never in short supply at the Artemis but after a few chats I hadn't found a girl I clicked with. There was one beautiful girl I'the seen when I arrived that I was looking out for and I spotted her sitting at the bar. We had a nice talk and she so headed upstairs.

[B]Stella from Germany[/B]

Again I opted for a one hour session and had a wonderful time. Stella is a total pro – great fun and a great worker. Her enthusiasm and honesty was a real tonic. After I came we had an interesting conversation about her professional attitude and her strategy for generating return custom. I learned she was a friend of Svenya and that they do two girl sessions. I filed that bit of information away from future use.

After a bit of kissing it was time to go again and we closed out the hour with a fantastic, slow shag.

Amazing girl and a definite repeat.

Watched a bit of football downstairs and had some (disappointing) food before looking for session three.

I was undecided about what to do. Go for a new girl or session with someone I've had a good experience with in the past? I was standing at the stairs outside the bar when my mind was made up for me. I was approached by Alisha (sp?) from Hungary – a girl I'the had a fine session with in the past. She's an utterly stunning girl, long dark hair, perfect skin, beautiful brown eyes and wonderful natural tits. A quick chat and then upstairs.

[B]Alisha from Hungary [/B]

A third hour long session with one of the prettiest girls in the club (IMO). Nice and slow at first but quickly hotting up. The site of her perfect body grinding away is permanently burned in my brain. COF to finish up a perfect session.

A great day at a great club.

Thanks for reading.

I've been to Artemis several times. Last time was in October, and at that time I acually felt that quality of girls was a bit disapointing. Less than a handfull interesting chicks in my eyes. Are there anyone that share my view? Or is Artemis back up there again? Curious as I'm going back to Berlin in a few months.

Ant yes I realize that its a matter of taste. Personally I prefare 20year old fit chicks with a nice face.

[QUOTE=MacBet; 1381851] I acually felt that quality of girls was a bit disapointing. Less than a handfull interesting chicks in my eyes. Ant yes I realize that its a matter of taste. Personally I prefare 20 year old fit chicks with a nice face.[/QUOTE]You may be pleasantly surprised now and the Arts Galerie back up there to where there was. Big turnover and so many fit beautious 20 yr olds you would think you were at an LA fitness studio. But as you say, all in the eye of the beholder, so I could be wrong. Or they might age dramatically later this week after a few days with the Rough Ridin' Men of of the Fruit Logistics Messe (motto Don't Mess With Messe Men).

In any case, even only a handful of worthies would keep most mortal men busy for several hours (at a minimum 5 x 30 minutes each.). Unless of course you booked them all at once for a 30 min stimulate the Eurozone group grope.

Hi all!

I plan to go to Berlin next weekend and Artemis will be on my list of things to do for sure. I've ben there before but that was 3 years ago and I would be really grateful if someone could put a list of the most popular / best girls (for performance + looks) at the moment. I remember last time having an awesome session with a leggy blonde German called Jane.

Also, and this is more directly to AM, I'd like to visit one brothel too apart from Artemis.

Which one would you recommend?

Thanks! I promise a detailed report.

Fri 1 to sun 3 feb. 13.

Friday 1 Feb. : I arrived Artemis about 22 straight from the airport. After walking around for some minutes I saw blond bomb Jenna.

Jenna (Germany) :I sessioned with her 4 times before and we went straight to the room without any waiting time. I usually go for I hours with cim with the good providers, and so I did this time too. Jenna is really a pro. A really like her 900 artificial breasts and attitude.

Laura (Check Rep.) New one for me. I asked her if she do kissing and she said 'yes, but not too much'. This was good enough for me and we went to the room without waiting time. Laura is 24 years, have 600 art. And a nice smile. We did lots of kissing but I did most of the work (doggy and missionary). I h and cim. I love Czech girls!

Rosalie (Greece) : A gypsy looking girl wanted to speak to my for 1 min downstairs by the kino. I'm polite so I listened to her. When she told she was from Greece I was thinking I never fucked a girl from Greece before and now I had the the opportunity. We went inside the Kino and she started to blow me (of course). Last time I was in the kino (with Nina from Chech R) we actually did the whole session on the sofa. The BJ with deepthroat from Rosalie was great and the kissing too. She has a really huge tunge). We finished the session behind the curtain in different positions. 1 h with cim.

Saturday 2 Feb.

I went to Artemis about 12 in the afternoon, showered and saw Nina arrive and she said hello to me. I planned to start with her, but I don't like to wait too long because I was horny&61514;

Lulu (Austria) : 'I like me girls nerdy, bitchy, inked and dirty', as I read on a t-shirts in Pattaya. It's hardly more space for more ink on this girl. I never sessioned with her before, so she went through the vetting process. DFK and kissing is important for me, so I never take a girl who not kiss (except when she lie about it, but usually you can belive the girls at Artemis). She do kissing, but only combined with extras, which I always buy, except when the girls do a bad performance. So we went for 1 hour and cim. She is a great kisser, but I don't think enjoyed kissing me, which made me kiss less then I usually do during the sessions But she is sexy and good looking, but not GFE imo.

Gia (Moldovia) : I was doing some sauna when I saw Gia walking towards me with her hands on her NEW tits. I hold me hands around her breast of gel. I guessed 300, and I was right. I have not seen so perfect boob job since I seesioned wirh Carmen Firestorm in Prague. She had been I Berlin for only 3 days since she went home 10 Dec. She had gained some weight too, so now she had a big, beautiful as too. We ent for 1 h with cim and what an energy. I asked her about her friend Christina, and Gia said Christina is on her way. Actually she should have arrived by now wirh car from Moldova. Gia told me she was bored of Berlin and was thinking about changing hunting ground, maybe Frankfurt, Oase (maybe we are loosing her guys) She is very impulsive and a fantastic GFE. I can't get enough!

I was taking a break at my nearby hotel, thinking about at least one more session this Saturday, but afraid Artemis would be overcrowded in the satursday evening (as usual). But about 10 in the evening it was still space and only a couple of minutes waiting time for the rooms.

Fatima (Slovakia) : I grabbed as I saw her and fantastic service as always. Actually her finish with cim was one of the best I ever had. Maybe because this was the 6 session with her and she even remembered that I'm not always that easy to please. I asked her if she do anal, and she replied that she do if it's feels right. She said that while looking at my dick. I take it as a compliment&61514;

Sunday 3 Feb.

At about 12 afternoon, after showering I say hi to Jenna. I was hoping that I the last day in Berlin could have a session with Nina or maybe some new girls too. So I waited. There were not so mant girls yet, I spoke to a german girl (brown hair, silicon tits and botox lips which I know don't do kissing (at least not with me) , but the same girl had earlier said to me ' today I kiss', so I took the chance and asked her ' do you kiss today? '. She replied that she never kiss and her friend joked and said she only kiss for 200 Euro. Then I spoke to I chech girl which also don't do kissing! So I went back to Jenna. I had a little conversation with Jenna before we went to the room. She told me a little bit about for the future with the money she make in artemis. This girl has goals and are not lazy and brainless.

Jenna (again) : I repeated with her. 1h, cim and anal. When I went back the 3 non-kissing girls were still waiting for customers. Jenna had 270 Euro from my locker.

I went for some food, and while I was eating at my table alone I saw Gia and several girls come to the next table. After they had finished their meal I grabbed Gia and asked her if she was ready for a session with me again after a quick cigarette.

Gia (again) : This time even better than last time. It was early in the day and had power after a break. 90 min with cim.

I had time for one more session before I had to catch my plane. While relaxing downstairs by the pool I saw an favorite of mine, Evelyn from Hungary. She wanted to go straight away, but I said I had to wait 1 h. We agreed and she picked another customer. I was realaxing but looking at my watch, and went upstairs guessing she soon was ready for me.

Evelyn (Hungary) : What a service! She really remembered my pref. And did everything the way I like. Lots of kissing and a finish with spit- BJ and cim. 90 min.

So this time I sessioned 9 times with 7 girls. 4 known providers and 3 new. Every lady did their work well this time.

Perrei

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1378336]According to the German forum she is once again back at Artemis, at least she was there this week.

For anyone interested.

A[/QUOTE]I would avoid her due to very poor service. Nice tattoo she has indeed.

[QUOTE=ZimmerSchatz;1382571]I would avoid her due to very poor service. Nice tattoo she has indeed.[/QUOTE]Well I can not say. But within the past week there have been two consistent reviews. Both have said that she is not the best of the best but that she gets the job done. No GFE but then every girl is not a GFE.

Or maybe it is just Kimino's great sexual prowess?

AM

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1382421]I would be really grateful if someone could put a list of the most popular / best girls (for performance + looks) at the moment.[/QUOTE]RTTFF-lots of recent tips. But also read why the question is absurd.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1377903&viewfull=1#post1377903[/url]

[QUOTE]Also, and this is more directly to AM, I'd like to visit one brothel too apart from Artemis. Which one would you recommend?[/QUOTE]

Just go to one of the better ones (Royal, Liberty, Prestige, van Kampen, Kamilla Dee, Mon Rouge) and do your homework. Berlin thread has it all, as does the Magee blog.
Angus is indeed the only one qualified to read your mind, know your budget, know your tastes having never met you, know the detailed schedules and performance of all the girls, and can thus telepathically predict the chemistry between them and you, and what is the best solution. Or better yet, retain Angus as your guide to Nirvanna, for the ultimate in personalised service with a smile.