Nairobi

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2636124]It's December 2021, tourist season is certainly in full swing -- anyone confirm that still possible to get visas in-person, ON ARRIVAL? (Yes, we already know they want people to do the form online.) Confirmation is you've traveled there in the past month.

And is it still 50 USD?[/QUOTE]Mine came in two days after I applied. In addition, you must have you Covid PCR test 96 hours before arrival and registered in the QR health system before boarding.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2636156]In one word. NO. The airline will refuse you boarding without E-Visa. Same as Uganda. They had to follow the same DUMB example like Kenya by eliminating VoA. More people will fly to Tanzania because of this DUMB policy.[/QUOTE]Why should People wave their holiday in Kenia only because there is no VoA? I can't believe that someone will cancel their Holiday only because of this.

What's the problem with only Evisa?

I'm sure they did it because they want to eliminate corruption and cash disappearing at the immigration counters.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2636321]What's the problem with only Evisa?[/QUOTE]I was in Kenya with VOA, very easy and smoth no issue. The main issue was to get out of Kenya with PCR test. It was a nightmare.

I heard about guys that keep the PDF so they use the same test for multiple visits.

When I left Kenya on the plan the captain announce 40 min delay as some passengers PCR was delayed and they already checked inn. This is happen only in Kenya airways when entire plan waiting 40 min to late passengers.

And the searched for nylon bags in you stuff in the airport security hoping to find something and charge you with a big fine. I did my homework and totally eliminate all Nylons. Kenya airways sent me email about it before the flight so I was prepared.

I would say in and out was very fast and VOA was just 40 min or so. When filling the VOA you need to provide hotel reservation or just saying you stay with a friend and add his phone number. Since I payed everything went smooth they only want the money and approve my VOA in zero time.

Now should I go to Kenya again? Well what has changed?

1. No curfew.

2. no police try to arrest you for violation of COVID.

3. Clubs open.

4. dry season arrived.

What not change.

1. I have no idea how to find quite apartment in Mtwapa beside the Israelis apartment and even there loud music.

2. ATM Issues-better to bring cash USD / Euros.

Overall, Jan to March is fantastic time for Kenya. Blue sky, clear sea water and girls everywhere.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2636321]Why should People wave their holiday in Kenia only because there is no VoA? I can't believe that someone will cancel their Holiday only because of this.

What's the problem with only Evisa?

I'm sure they did it because they want to eliminate corruption and cash disappearing at the immigration counters.[/QUOTE]It's BS. Why. Because it doesn't work. I know scores of people having troubles. For example credit cards not working. Payment denied. The Ugandan website is sometimes not even working or very slow. A mate of mine gave up. Corruption. Not a reason either. In Tanzania you pay the Visa fee at the bank counter. So no immigration officer touches cash. There's plenty of old people who don't know how to operate a PC. It's a nightmare. They tried to introduce it couple of years back. And it didn't work back then either. These countries will lose tourist dollars every day by making it as inconvenient as possible. Do the EVisa and have fun. Make sure you have the proper passport picture resolution for example. No more than 256 kb. If you're denied Visa you lose 51 $ or you have to reschedule your flight. I am not interested in that BS.

Senegal learned from past mistakes by eliminating Visa anyway. Stamp in passport. Finish.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2636321]Why should People wave their holiday in Kenia only because there is no VoA? I can't believe that someone will cancel their Holiday only because of this.

What's the problem with only Evisa?

I'm sure they did it because they want to eliminate corruption and cash disappearing at the immigration counters.[/QUOTE]One issue with an eVisa is that my credit card is almost always rejected the first time. I must verify multiple times which is inconvenient from my home country but downright aggravating when I'm out of my country.

Another issue is I'm playing visa-go-round when my two 90 day visas are up, I must leave the country and start the process over from another country. I met some who do the South Africa-Namibia-Botswana circuit with no visa at all. I can go from Kenya to Tanzania for a VoA but not to Uganda unless I have a eVisa. Again, what difference does it make when Uganda Immigration pastes a white man's passport with a black woman' photo visa?

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2636482] when my two 90 day visas are up, I must leave the country [/QUOTE]Wrong, you can extend forever.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2636530]Wrong, you can extend forever.[/QUOTE]You forgot to mention. Illegal. But possible. And technically it's not an extension. An Immigration officer actually stamps you out and in again
technically you have left the country virtually and return virtually... Cost depends who you know between 20 and 30k KSH. I know people who live 12 years on illegal Visa extensions in Kenya. Do I recommend it? No. And do yourself a favor. Never mention people or places where you can obtain it in the forum...

Neddy.

Another joke is the Jitenge QR form you must have created before arrival. Once you land at NBO you will enter the airport and stand in line before you reach immigration. Health personnel scan your 3-D bar code QR form that you either printed or have open on your smart phone. You are required to log into the site everyday for 14 days and report any Covid symptoms.

In my case, my name doesn't appear when I log into the system and I can't enter symptoms. The system is supposed to notify the phone number you used to create the form. If not, you still can access the system by entering the number you used. Mine just tells me my number is invalid. I wonder what that matters after 90 days and 180 days when I leave the country.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2636811]Another joke is the Jitenge QR form you must have created before arrival. Once you land at NBO you will enter the airport and stand in line before you reach immigration. Health personnel scan your 3-D bar code QR form that you either printed or have open on your smart phone. You are required to log into the site everyday for 14 days and report any Covid symptoms.

In my case, my name doesn't appear when I log into the system do I can't enter symptoms. I wonder what that matters after 90 days and 180 days when I leave the country.[/QUOTE]Africans and IT. The whole rubbish doesn't even work in Europe. They once said KISS. For that reason I love Guinea Bissau. They still type the residence permit by typewriter. Even if some countries have IT systems now. They're not working as they're supposed to work. The results range from hilarious to annoying. And now these online health declarations take the BS to a new level.

Old but hilarious story.

Guy arrives at Monrovia on the height of the civil war. He virtually has all paperwork in order. Even a valid Visa! Customs and immigration highly annoyed because they can't sell him a Visa and make a few hundred bucks. They took away his passport until he paid up a couple of hundred dollars in order to enter Liberia.

That's the positive in Africa. It's called corruption.

You can buy any paper and any stamp. I was offered from captains licence or genuine IDs. You name it. The problem now are the EVisa. The Airlines don't let you board without one. You probably get still VoA in Entebbe. But. See above.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2636766]You forgot to mention. Illegal.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]It is llegal at the immigration office. You can get a retirement visa or whatever. Money talk.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2636811]Another joke is the Jitenge QR form you must have created before arrival. Once you land at NBO you will enter the airport and stand in line before you reach immigration. Health personnel scan your 3-D bar code QR form that you either printed or have open on your smart phone. You are required to log into the site everyday for 14 days and report any Covid symptoms.

In my case, my name doesn't appear when I log into the system and I can't enter symptoms. The system is supposed to notify the phone number you used to create the form. If not, you still can access the system by entering the number you used. Mine just tells me my number is invalid. I wonder what that matters after 90 days and 180 days when I leave the country.[/QUOTE]I have not heard before that I should login to some system and report covid reports. I did not do it last time and nobody asked about it when I left the country.

This QR form is kind of joke yes, I filled it couple of weeks before flight to Kenya and told that I had not covid symptoms. And I have to put there a seat number, which I had of course no idea, so I put 60 always.

There was some discussion about problems with ATMs. Although I wrote to Mombasa forum my story about ATM stolen my money, that was only time that I have had problems in Kenya. I am counting on ATMS, I don't carry very much foreign cash with me. Couple of time my foreign cash has been stolen by some girl, I haven't even known who of my many visitors.

Also, nowadays in Kenya I pay in supermarkets and in restaturants by card directly, I don't have to visit ATM so often as before.

There has not been card cloning problems like in for example South America, there I am afraid to pay by card.

I have not got problems with Visa Online either.

Just discovered this site. Some Africa veterans and some thinking it ought to be like Thailand. Am resident in Kisumu. Did anyone check out the Place club there?

[QUOTE=Crow2;2640435]Just discovered this site. Some Africa veterans and some thinking it ought to be like Thailand. Am resident in Kisumu. Did anyone check out the Place club there?[/QUOTE]Check out the Other areas subforum. This is the Nairobi Forum. I wrote a few pieces about Kisumu. But very few Forum members make it there. I was there when Buccaneers Strip Club was swinging. Last elections that was. 2017.

Mwalimu.

Neddy69: From the information I gathered on the different sub-forums, I see that you have been around Kampala, Kigali and Nairobi. I am staying at Woodmere in Nairobi and Kahama in Mombasa but I am wondering if you had any hotel / Airbnb recommendations for Kampala and Kigali? From what I see on Airbnb and even [URL]booking.com[/URL], a lot of places seem dodgy at best. Or I am just spoiled from living in Thailand where really nice hotels can be had for 1,000 Baht a night.

[QUOTE=Kommissar1231;2641155]Neddy69: From the information I gathered on the different sub-forums, I see that you have been around Kampala, Kigali and Nairobi. I am staying at Woodmere in Nairobi and Kahama in Mombasa but I am wondering if you had any hotel / Airbnb recommendations for Kampala and Kigali? From what I see on Airbnb and even [URL]booking.com[/URL], a lot of places seem dodgy at best. Or I am just spoiled from living in Thailand where really nice hotels can be had for 1,000 Baht a night.[/QUOTE]Yes. You are definitely spoiled. In Africa good quality accommodation can be astonishingly expensive. This is not Asia. Expect overpriced dingy accommodation. Forget AirBnB and [URL]Booking.com[/URL]. For Africa. Totally overpriced. Equally the so called hostels. All for tourists. It really depends on you budget. One hint. The best you'll not find on the internet. There's loads of cheap guest houses especially in Kigali and Kampala. Expect minor inconveniences like water and power cuts. Even hotels which are not on the internet at all. I just search on the area I want to stay in and look at Google maps and maps. Me. The best internet platform for Africa used to be jumia travel unfortunately closed down. Never book in advance. Go there. Stay for 2 nights. Be prepared to move.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2641485]Yes. You are definitely spoiled. In Africa good quality accommodation can be astonishingly expensive. This is not Asia. Expect overpriced dingy accommodation. Forget AirBnB and [URL]Booking.com[/URL]. For Africa. Totally overpriced. Equally the so called hostels. All for tourists. It really depends on you budget. One hint. The best you'll not find on the internet. There's loads of cheap guest houses especially in Kigali and Kampala. Expect minor inconveniences like water and power cuts. Even hotels which are not on the internet at all. I just search on the area I want to stay in and look at Google maps and maps. Me. The best internet platform for Africa used to be jumia travel unfortunately closed down. Never book in advance. Go there. Stay for 2 nights. Be prepared to move.

Mwalimu.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Do you have a hotel, guest house recommendation for Kabalagala?

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2641485]Yes. You are definitely spoiled. In Africa good quality accommodation can be astonishingly expensive. This is not Asia. Expect overpriced dingy accommodation. Forget AirBnB and [URL]Booking.com[/URL]. For Africa. Totally overpriced. Equally the so called hostels. All for tourists. It really depends on you budget. One hint. The best you'll not find on the internet. There's loads of cheap guest houses especially in Kigali and Kampala. Expect minor inconveniences like water and power cuts. Even hotels which are not on the internet at all. I just search on the area I want to stay in and look at Google maps and maps. Me. The best internet platform for Africa used to be jumia travel unfortunately closed down. Never book in advance. Go there. Stay for 2 nights. Be prepared to move.
[/QUOTE]BTW thanks Neddy and Slowalk about the visa & PCR / covid *updated* information.

I do want to disagree with one point. With all due respect to Brother Neddy: there's no way any tourist or mongerer is going to know safe / cheap / etc places that are Not-hotels or not-Abb -- unless they already have intimate knowledge of the locations. Which 99% will not.

Doesn't matter if the places are dingy (most are not, some are) or overpriced (which, most are!

The purpose of these forums IS< to share such intimate info.

If people won't share that info, then rest of us should suggest / recommend hotels or Abbs.

I gave advice on how to filter Abb listings:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2223797[/URL]#post2223797.

I gave advice about *possible* Abb options:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2522990[/URL]#post2522990.

I suggest members provide more *specific* information, for all our benefit.

[QUOTE=Kommissar1231;2641655]Thank you. Do you have a hotel, guest house recommendation for Kabalagala?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.agoda.com/de-de/african-tribe-hotel/hotel/kampala-ug.html?checkin=2022-01-02&checkout=2022-01-03&los=1&rooms=1&adults=2&children=0&cid=1731078&searchrequestid=657853df-03e8-4f05-8137-21c22b9c671e&tspTypes=8[/URL]

Try African Tribe Hotel. I did not stay there. It's in Makindiye. I'm not giving accommodation recommendations. RTFF. I don't know of anybody's preferences and standards. Things change very quickly in Africa. Places close down or become noisy overnight. Mosque or church with midnight service nearby. Noisy Drinking dens. Don't forget. Bars were closed in Uganda füare the better part of 18 months. M7 decreed opening as of Jan. 1st 2022. But if Capital is open. Nobody knows.

Mwalimu.

I shot this photo one night. I might try here my way back through. It's in the K1 Compound.

Try African Tribe Hotel. I did not stay there. It's in Makindiye. I'm not giving accommodation recommendations. RTFF. I don't know of anybody's preferences and standards. Things change very quickly in Africa. Places close down or become noisy overnight. Mosque or church with midnight service nearby. Noisy Drinking dens. Don't forget. Bars were closed in Uganda fare the better part of 18 months. M7 decreed opening as of Jan. 1st 2022. But if Capital is open. Nobody knows.

Thanks mate. I will have a look!

I spent a few days in NBO. i was absent in Kenya for 3 years.
My 1st Hotel was THE HERON, Millimani Road. NBO seems to have few visitors and the Hotel rates are reasonable. $43. THE HERON has a beautiful Indian-influenced architecture.

I moved to CROSSROADS HOTEL, Westlands, $41. The Launch 40-FOURTY (24 hours open!) is just above, and I mount one stage up to the 9th floor. My room is in the 8th floor and the reception at the 5th floor, so visitors are not really checked.

I was told on Wednesdays a music band plays at a place called BiSTROT? 1st floor , not far from here, opposite Havanna BAR.

THE BLACK DIAMOND changed the name THE BOSS END? And it is belonging to an Indian person now.

A few girls on Tuesday at 40-FOURTY, a group of 7 girls invited me to celebrate birthday, but I was suspicious they would oblige to charge me later for their bill, LOL.

A pleasant girl called Anne (24) flirted with me. She did not mind at all taking her pussy pixs. Finished studies sociology, next day I asked her for the subject of her Masters "You know it's difficult to study and somebody was writing my Masters, I don't remember my subject". That's Africa. She works in an SPA now. Took her for massage to my room. Beautiful body she had.

"How much You want tomorrow morning? "I don't know, maybe 100 $? " I will give you 5000 KSH (40 $)". She was nice and handsome and friendly. But her pussy, or was it her hair had an odd smell. Also, she was not passionate. And she could not find sleep and her mobile phone / Youtube was on even at 4 am. I could have paid her less too. But NBO is expensive too, U hardly get a pizza below 1000KS (€9).

Much different to sexy Shila (26), she appeared on my old Kenyan number (3 years ago) which was now under her name. She works to clean dusty buildings during construction. A normal girl. Had a hard time to convince her to visit me at my room after work. Soon she totally was happy to be with a foreigner, and she took many photos of my room, means she was never in a good Hotel.

We fell in kind of Love very quickly, but I did not sex her. I don't want to break her innocent heart- knowing that I would leave the town 2 days later. I refused to tell her my age, 70 would have shocked her. I startled myself how I managed to get her soft and take her heart? But that's Africa too.

John.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2552019]It would be nice to provide a map quest or address.[/QUOTE]I was struck down with Covid hard after sending that message and have only now logged back online.

I have the address and can always pass on information if someone wants to PM me.

So far no-one has contacted me about the post.

If you would like the details I am happy to share, I would not have found it without a friends help and sharing is caring in my opinion.

When I am back in Nairobi maybe we can meet up and share stories.

Then split up after exchanging contacts and create more haha.

I do love your updates.

Thank you for bringing this thread to life.

Landed in Nairobi and started the Tinder game (will write a report when I get some action! I thought I'd check out the current situation with possible scams online.

Heard of one guy going to a girls house and getting robbed. Obviously a stupid mistake, but are there any other scams I should be aware of?

Prostitution is illegal, so I suppose I should never mention money online (Otherwise, lock up anything expensive in my hotel room, and only take photos and stuff if I trust the girl. Any advice?

[QUOTE=Comoros23;2652240]Landed in Nairobi and started the Tinder game (will write a report when I get some action! I thought I'd check out the current situation with possible scams online.

Heard of one guy going to a girls house and getting robbed. Obviously a stupid mistake, but are there any other scams I should be aware of?

Prostitution is illegal, so I suppose I should never mention money online (Otherwise, lock up anything expensive in my hotel room, and only take photos and stuff if I trust the girl. Any advice?[/QUOTE]Much safer in terms of mugging and scams to have the girl come to you. Never pay in advance, at most order an Uber for her to come. You certainly could agree on the price online before the girl comes over to avoid unpleasant surprises and wasting your time, no risk in talking about that.

[QUOTE=Kaappo22;2652469]Much safer in terms of mugging and scams to have the girl come to you. Never pay in advance, at most order an Uber for her to come. You certainly could agree on the price online before the girl comes over to avoid unpleasant surprises and wasting your time, no risk in talking about that.[/QUOTE]Recently there was a case in Mtwapa where a German guy arranged with a girl to come to his house.

Immediately when he opened the door a man who was accompanying the girl came out of the blue and put a knife on the throat of the muzungu and asked for a lot of money.

When the victim could convince the robbers that he did not have a lot of money on him they left with whatever they could grab, leaving the victim unhurt.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2635425]Visa extension and first time application are made online.[/QUOTE]In theory only. I was told extensions don't work online or last endlessly. So one has to show up in the immigration office or send someone handing over 2-3 K.

[QUOTE=Zimzam;2652483]Recently there was a case in Mtwapa where a German guy arranged with a girl to come to his house.

Immediately when he opened the door a man who was accompanying the girl came out of the blue and put a knife on the throat of the muzungu and asked for a lot of money.

When the victim could convince the robbers that he did not have a lot of money on him they left with whatever they could grab, leaving the victim unhurt.[/QUOTE]Anything can happen. Still, mugging is easier to set up when the client visits strange places.

To make it even more safe one could book a house / hotel / apartment with a guard on the gate, and / or meet the girl in a nearby cafe or other public place and travel there Uber if it worries one's mind. Personally I wouldn't worry too much about such when inviting girls over, quick hands snatching something when inside the room is more probable.

Had glorious time with her.

More photos.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1951;2654095]More photos.[/QUOTE]I love that hairy pussy. I hate when they're shaved.

Just had a few nights in Nairobi on my way home from Mombasa.

Went to what was Black Diamond and is now Boss Den on Sunday night. Was around 10-15 ladies in, 3-4 were definitely fuckable. The one I had my eye on was a little 5 ft busty light brown one. She asked for 10 k, I laughed and she realized I was not silly and then said okay 5 k is my price. I was tempted but in tne end just left alone. Most of the time I can be bothered at the end of the night and usually get numbers for evening meets.

On my last day I was strolling around town and there is this little 5 ft, short natural hair, tight body with that usually juicy ass walking on by me. I had to introduce myself. After 30 minutes stroll, chat and a juice for her we were heading to my airbnb as she was waiting for her laptop being repaired. Once inside I said I was going to shower and she should join me. She did so and after soaping her up I got her on the bed and applied baby oil to that pert ass for a massage. Was not long before we were going at it, she liked to ride in a weird position but it got her off as she had a nice leg shaking orgasm before I lay her down on ner front and power fucked her from behind to shoot my bolt. Money was never mentioned. However, I had a £20 note in a small bag on my table and after showering and getting ready to see her off I notice it is missing! I just say nothing and see her off. I sms her an hour later and ask about my £20, of coarse she denies all so it must of got up and walked off on its own. Anyways, she was worth it.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2656966]Just had a few nights in Nairobi on my way home from Mombasa.

Went to what was Black Diamond and is now Boss Den on Sunday night. Was around 10-15 ladies in, 3-4 were definitely fuckable. The one I had my eye on was a little 5 ft busty light brown one. She asked for 10 k, I laughed and she realized I was not silly and then said okay 5 k is my price. I was tempted but in tne end just left alone. Most of the time I can be bothered at the end of the night and usually get numbers for evening meets.

On my last day I was strolling around town and there is this little 5 ft, short natural hair, tight body with that usually juicy ass walking on by me. I had to introduce myself. After 30 minutes stroll, chat and a juice for her we were heading to my airbnb as she was waiting for her laptop being repaired. Once inside I said I was going to shower and she should join me. She did so and after soaping her up I got her on the bed and applied baby oil to that pert ass for a massage. Was not long before we were going at it, she liked to ride in a weird position but it got her off as she had a nice leg shaking orgasm before I lay her down on ner front and power fucked her from behind to shoot my bolt. Money was never mentioned. However, I had a 20 note in a small bag on my table and after showering and getting ready to see her off I notice it is missing! I just say nothing and see her off. I sms her an hour later and ask about my 20, of coarse she denies all so it must of got up and walked off on its own. Anyways, she was worth it.[/QUOTE]Well played. Perfect gentleman. Leave money on the table so as not to embarrass the chic. They're not hookers. They're sweet creatures in need of funds. LOL. That's how a professional Africa operator works. Exemplary. At these few overpriced night clubs I just drink some beers. The best pussy you just pull off the street. Any time any place. The party times in CBD are over. Back in the days. Florida 2 k. Simmers. Madhouse. Even Black Diamond back in the days was fun. I loved the roof terrace. In 2012 that was. I don't understand how dumb can the proprietor be to rename one of the last classic institutions in Westlands Boss Den.

Mwalimu.

Who eyes more places like Kinshasa.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2657327]Well played. Perfect gentleman. Leave money on the table so as not to embarrass the chic. They're not hookers. They're sweet creatures in need of funds. LOL. That's how a professional Africa operator works. Exemplary. At these few overpriced night clubs I just drink some beers. The best pussy you just pull off the street. Any time any place. The party times in CBD are over. Back in the days. Florida 2 k. Simmers. Madhouse. Even Black Diamond back in the days was fun. I loved the roof terrace. In 2012 that was. I don't understand how dumb can the proprietor be to rename one of the last classic institutions in Westlands Boss Den. Mwalimu.Who eyes more places like Kinshasa.[/QUOTE]Oh well at least I know what to tell the Uber dude where to take me. I used Tinder most of the time anyway when I was last in Nai before Covid. Of course I got surprises, both good and bad, when the girl showed up at the door. Yes Nairobi is certainly not as before when the good times rolled.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2656966] I had a 20 note in a small bag on my table... I notice it is missing! [/QUOTE]In my book, taking something loose from a table is different than removing something from a bag from a table and taking it. Hopefully the note was all that was taken.

After a rough start to my trip I made it. Flying BKK to NBO and waited nearly 2 hours in line at BKK airport to then have a **** tell me I need a return / outgoing ticket when its already an hour to departure. I'm flying Qatar so try to book with them website doesn't work I have to go upstairs to ticket office etc. I cut it close but made it the flight. On arrival of course they didn't ask for it.

Productive first day Uber'ing around and checking out some apartments. Even knowing what to expect going in regarding prices its still a bit shocking. Ended up getting a place for a month+ and paying a bit more than my budget but not its my first time might as well enjoy it.

I've never been one to take pics of girls but will try to revitalize this thread with some in the coming weeks.

[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2678870]After a rough start to my trip I made it. Flying BKK to NBO and waited nearly 2 hours in line at BKK airport to then have a **** tell me I need a return / outgoing ticket when its already an hour to departure. I'm flying Qatar so try to book with them website doesn't work I have to go upstairs to ticket office etc. I cut it close but made it the flight. On arrival of course they didn't ask for it.
[/QUOTE]I had the same happen to me Dec 2020 also with Qatar A. (at Heathrow). Luckily I had it. (Ever since then, I've always pre-booked a return, even if I plan to extend it.) And same--got to NBO, they never asked about it.

I wonder if this is something strict with Qatar airlines.

[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2678870]Productive first day Uber'ing around and checking out some apartments. Even knowing what to expect going in regarding prices its still a bit shocking. Ended up getting a place for a month+ and paying a bit more than my budget but not its my first time might as well enjoy it.[/QUOTE]Are you using AirBnb or some other service? Share!

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2679193]Are you using AirBnb or some other service? Share![/QUOTE]I joined 2 different Airbnb Kenya groups on FB and posted what I wanted, and joined a telegram group also. You get plenty of messages but a lot of junk, places in bad areas, or just people who message everyone with their apartment even if it doesn't fit the posters requirements. I ended up paying full monthly price on a regular Airbnb place after going to see it and had the owner agree to reduce the price if I stay longer.

(Thanks Brother IHeartIpa for sharing!

Might be time to share some advice on dealing with AirBnb listings. Let's all share our advice & wisdom.

Remember the days when we had few options other than hotels?? Yes, the Bad Ole Days.

Despite Abb being a great option, "This is Kenya", so you know scamming, corruption, and unadulterated incompetence are going to be major factors in trying to find good listings. Over the years, here's what I've learned:

(1) Read ALL the reviews. Why? Because real, honest details about the place will hopefully be buried in there. Details that the Host should have put in the Description.

For example, too many Hosts conveniently fail to mention that their unit is on the fourth or fifth or higher floors -- in a NO-elevator building.

If you're lucky, one of the previous Guests will announce this "oversight" in their review. So you'll be forewarned.

If you do stay in such a place, and no previous review mentions something like this, PUT IT IN YOUR REVIEW. Help future customers to avoid such nonsense.

(2) Many Hosts 'buy' good reviews.

They either have their friends book a night or two, but they never stay there, the Host refunds their money, just to get the good review. OR-- there are people out there who offer to give good reviews for a small fee, so the Host does a similar trick with them.

(Abb doesn't care--they still get their cut from a refunded listing. And having so many bogus profiles that have "actually" booked listings, makes the Abb service look more legit that it really is).

The easiest way to start spotting bogus reviews is when there are many one- maybe 2-liner good reviews; and then you'll spot that very-detailed critical or outright bad review. Then you know most if not all those previous one-liners are bogus.

(3) Never book a listing with No Reviews.

I don't care how lovely the pics are, or how surprisingly cheap such a beautifully-furnished 2 BR in Spring Valley for 19 USD seems -- don't do it.

Let the scammer start popping bogus reviews. Which you now know how to spot. Or let some other brave soul be the first legit customer, wait to get their impressions.

(4) Look for and try to book the 'Free Cancellation' listings.

This way, if you find a better deal close to you check-in date, you can cancel with no loss.

(5) Be cautious of the 3-day Minimum listings.

My strategy has always been, book 1 or 2 nights (even in no-Cancellation spots), test the quality. If I like it, I tell the Host that I'm extending. I even try to bargain for discount. If not unreasonable, they may agree.

Some Hosts have sniffed out this strat, now they require 3-day minimums, or no cancellation at all. I avoid these, unless I know the place already, enough to book a longer stay anyway.

(6) Bait-switch listings can get a Host banned. Perhaps even permanently. But you have to report them!

I've had one experience where the Host (and her crony) had photos of a place on Rhapta Rd, with loads of good reviews, but when the payment was made and nearing the arrival, said that 'due to Covid' they had to do an emergency cleaning, so offered my & my friends another flat in Valley Arcade. Although we were lucky that there actually was a place, it's quality was nowhere near the photos on the listing.

This is one where I had not read ALL the reviews; if I had, I would have seen 2 or more that complained about the same thing.

I wrote in my review, and in the chat with the Host, that I was reporting her to ABB Corporate. What is more miraculous is that someone from ABB did actually respond. Soon after that, the listing was killed.

I'm sure that didn't stop the scammers from opening another bogus listing. But I haven't seen them or that previous listing for 2 years.

(7) Sometime the map marker is not near the actual location. Worse, is when the marker is NOwhere near the location!

This one may still happen: e. G. The marker shows the place 'near' Parklands, but the Description may outright say it's in NaiWest.

It's obvious the Host is trying to get guests she or he normally wouldn't. (I don't recommend anywhere in NaiWest, however, there is one building that was 'okay'.).

If the actually location is one you're aware of, and like, maybe let this (white?) lie slide. Otherwise, just strike it from your list of potentials.

(8) No review for more than a year? Skip it!

One good thing about Bad Hosts-- if no one has reviewed their listing in more than a year, wow it must really be bad! Skip these now 'zombie' listings, which Abb allows to sit in the search pool.

So, what are your advice, experiences, wisdoms about AirBnb?

"Bait-switch listings can get a Host banned. Perhaps even permanently. But you have to report them!" (Rwenotmen)


It happened to me recently in Kisumu with [URL]booking.com[/URL] They even had confirmed my booking the day before via email. On arrival at the airport I gave my taxidriver their number that they direct us there. But they directed us to a different place because my apartment had been given to someone else. Of course I did not accept and went to an alternative place.

Now to the quoted proposal. On [URL]booking.com[/URL] reviews are possible only after having actually stayed in the place. However I wrote a report on google. booking.com apologized but the accomodation not.

I had two or three issues renting air be and be last year. One was in Valley Arcade. Decent area by the way. The set up was slightly different than the photos but the place was still nice enough to remain for the month. Another apartment in Westland looked like the photos. But had cracked tiles tiny bathroom and sink in the living room. Another apartment did not have any refrigerator. Two apartments had no generator so went lengthy times without electricity, WIFI. Fortunately in each case Air be and be sided with my defense and I was refunded and allowed to leave my agreement prematurely. So gather facts, evidence, pics to forward to the case manager and forward a good argument and luck may be on your side. Kenya was great. The women so sweet. Especially in Nairobi. Girlfriend experience, overnight stays. No rushing to leave. Don't hesitate to pay the uber and have liquor. They love to drink. And everything should be fine.

[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2679283]I joined 2 different Airbnb Kenya groups on FB and posted what I wanted, and joined a telegram group also. You get plenty of messages but a lot of junk, places in bad areas, or just people who message everyone with their apartment even if it doesn't fit the posters requirements. I ended up paying full monthly price on a regular Airbnb place after going to see it and had the owner agree to reduce the price if I stay longer.[/QUOTE].

There are too many to report. Just avoid it.

If you book a hotel room and you don't like the room, there are other rooms and in most cases you can switch.

A hotel is run by reasonable professionals. ABnB is run be amateurs who just want to make a quick buck.

Worse the prepaid schemes. Never book any ABnB where you shall prepay. Most hotels you can book and pay on departure.

If you need a long term place have a look first and then agree on terms.

Power to you!

Overall I've had good experiences with ABB. Actually, the worse experiences I've had have been in the US!

In Kenya, the bad ones were 20% or less, for example: that one-time bait-switch -- which still worked out ok for me & my friends at the alternate place (not for the scammers, though! LOL); the one where the unit was totally fine, actually quite nice, but the Host still hadn't addressed the mosquito issue (which previous Guests had complained about, so I knew what I was getting into), currently I think the NON-bogus reviews are complaining about this more&more. Kenyans being blockheaded Kenyans, he probably won't make real changes until the money drops to zero. If even then.

Power outages and water shortages happen everywhere in Kenya, even in the so-called nice areas. Only the best hotels, and the better properties in the best neighborhoods, have backup generators and extra water tanks.

My main complaint for any ABB that I've stayed at is that they typically are NOT *Quiet*. They're always either in a poor area like NaiWest, which means noise all the time; or near some lame call-to-worship at stupid hour in the mornings; or the oldie-but goodie, very near a pub or club; or, just-my-luck, major construction is going on nearby, exactly at the time of MY booking. Which of course the Host never did warn about. But makes plenty of excuses when responding to the bad reviews.

Of course, I can avoid this by staying out in the boonies like Karen, or way-overpriced-but-probably-worth-it areas like Runda, Spring Valley, etc but either choices don't make for enjoyable mongering.

Despite all this, I don't see me ever going back to hotels. (Unless my job pays for it) For me, there's more value & freedom for the money spent with ABBs.

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2681666]My main complaint for any ABB that I've stayed at is that they typically are NOT *Quiet*. They're always either in a poor area like NaiWest, which means noise all the time; or near some lame call-to-worship at stupid hour in the mornings; or the oldie-but goodie, very near a pub or club; or, just-my-luck, major construction is going on nearby, exactly at the time of MY booking. Which of course the Host never did warn about. But makes plenty of excuses when responding to the bad reviews..[/QUOTE]OMG this. My Airbnb is fantastic itself but there's a rooftop club a few buildings over the I can hear all night long. No way I could have known before staying here even though I saw it in person before booking.

The only problem with an ABB I had in Nairobi was the first one I ever got, which I went cheap with selection. I didn't know about pre-paid electric and to keep an eye on the meter but the power died on me there. I finally understood what happened, called the dude and he fixed it. The fridge was overflowing with ice and needed a defrost. It was August and it only had an tiny space heater while leaking cold air in every window. My friend always had great ABBs in Kilimani. Woodmere is always in ABB and is very quiet. Only my moaning WG was the only noise I heard. No walk of shame and on site store.

One thing regarding accommodation- stay in westlands or nearby. Any money you save by staying elsewhere you will spend back in taxis for yourself to go out partying, or for girls taxi money. Nairobi is just so spread out. And set your tinder search to 5 km or something otherwise you'll be giving a girl 2000 for taxi and the taxi will actually cost that LOL.

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2679193]I had the same happen to me Dec 2020 also with Qatar A. (at Heathrow). Luckily I had it. (Ever since then, I've always pre-booked a return, even if I plan to extend it.) And same--got to NBO, they never asked about it.

I wonder if this is something strict with Qatar airlines.[/QUOTE]Arrived in NBO on Sunday.

Yes-- here it is, 2 years later, Qatar again asked at boarding about my return flight. This time, clerk didn't ask to see the return ticket (I had it anyway), just counted the days based on the Return Date to make sure it was 90 days or less. He DID want to see the Kenya Visa.

On arriving flight, QA staff handed out the old Visa application white card, and a small paper application for the Traveler Health Surveillance -- docs that GoK already made us complete online.

Of course, on Arrival, nobody asked to see those stupid paper applications.

And here's a live example of the WARNING, found this during a recent search: go to airbnb, check listing 49990471, read the One review.

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2680240](6) Bait-switch listings can get a Host banned. Perhaps even permanently. But you have to report them![/QUOTE]

If you need to exchange money at a Forex and you see a policeman (not security) standing outside the building as if he's guarding the Forex, don't use the Forex. The Police and his partners are waiting for someone like you to exit the Forex with cash so they can shake you down.

Got a question for the old hands. Met tinder girl out once for a date next date was at my place we bang etc. Her body is fantastic so that's great. Both times she's preferred meet early in the day and to leave early evening. I prefer this as I like sleeping alone and find nothing wrong with some afternoon delight. But what's the deal? BF at home? Baby?(no damage evident). Seems unusual to me. She says she stays with family. I've only paid for her food and transport and she's plenty happy with that.

[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2687418]Got a question for the old hands. Met tinder girl out once for a date next date was at my place we bang etc. Her body is fantastic so that's great. Both times she's preferred meet early in the day and to leave early evening. I prefer this as I like sleeping alone and find nothing wrong with some afternoon delight. But what's the deal? BF at home? Baby?(no damage evident). Seems unusual to me. She says she stays with family. I've only paid for her food and transport and she's plenty happy with that.[/QUOTE]You already said the reason. She stays with family. It's easy to come up with an excuse for mom / dad to be gone for some hours during the day, but much more difficult for evening and night.

Invite the girls close to curfew time. You are guaranteed a sleep over LOL. Over 60 girls and 4 at the most did not sleep over last year.

[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2687418]Got a question for the old hands. Met tinder girl out once for a date next date was at my place we bang etc. Her body is fantastic so that's great. Both times she's preferred meet early in the day and to leave early evening. I prefer this as I like sleeping alone and find nothing wrong with some afternoon delight. But what's the deal? BF at home? Baby?(no damage evident). Seems unusual to me. She says she stays with family. I've only paid for her food and transport and she's plenty happy with that.[/QUOTE]

Went to Boss Den last night (Saturday) formerly Black Diamond in Westlands.

I would say there were 3 or 4 I would rate 8/9 and plenty others worth a visit. From past experience you can get an hour or two for 3 k in here.

For the intrepid amongst you, there is an area in the large slum in Nairobi, Kakamega, where there are many brothels where it seems locals can get laid, starting from 150 ksh upwards.

The guy in this video shows it all.

I hope this link works:

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=1420384981753393&_rdr[/URL]

[QUOTE=Zimzam;2692073]For the intrepid amongst you, there is an area in the large slum in Nairobi, Kakamega, where there are many brothels where it seems locals can get laid, starting from 150 ksh upwards.

The guy in this video shows it all.

I hope this link works:

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=1420384981753393&_rdr[/URL][/QUOTE]I digress. As far as I know is Kakamega the capital of Luhya county. Far away from Nairobi. I doubt if you get any good quality for that price.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2687892]Invite the girls close to curfew time. You are guaranteed a sleep over LOL. Over 60 girls and 4 at the most did not sleep over last year.[/QUOTE]FYI curfew is gone. All covid rules are.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2692076]I digress. As far as I know is Kakamega the capital of Luhya county. Far away from Nairobi. I doubt if you get any good quality for that price.

Mwalimu.[/QUOTE]Yes, you are right. My mistake.

Was confusing with Kibera.

I went to Brew Bistro in Westlands tonight (Sunday, though it is a holiday weekend) was very busy with a lot of hot 20's girls in. If you have a bit of game, buy a few drinks you could grab a stunner in here.

I guess you miss the part where I said come back when there's a curfew LOL

[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2692100]FYI curfew is gone. All covid rules are.[/QUOTE]

I went to UpTown Spa the other week and the lineup was incredible about 30 different girls all shapes and sizes. Full service on offer after the massage.

[QUOTE=ImpressiveWin;2692395]I went to UpTown Spa the other week and the lineup was incredible about 30 different girls all shapes and sizes. Full service on offer after the massage.[/QUOTE]Got to luv Kilimani's massage scene!

Q: "Are these Nairobi spas engaged in prostitution?" [URL]https://businesstoday.co.ke/nairobi-spas-engaged-prostitution/[/URL].

A: Duhhh!

More light reading:

[URL]https://girlsheavens.com/happy-ending-massage-in-nairobi/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/big-read/2020-01-26-easy-money-versus-weird-demands-inside-world-of-massage-spas/[/URL]

[URL]https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/nairobi/how-kilimani-lost-its-allure-to-become-nairobi-s-gang-illicit-sex-capital-1926028[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2692210]I went to Brew Bistro in Westlands tonight (Sunday, though it is a holiday weekend) was very busy with a lot of hot 20's girls in. If you have a bit of game, buy a few drinks you could grab a stunner in here.[/QUOTE]Thanks Brother Mombie75 for that update. No surprise this was a great weekend for the working ladies-- end of Eid, Labor Day and Baba Kibaki's passing. Made for a three- or four-day holiday / business opportunity!

I never tried Brew Bistro for mongering due to the girls have reputation for being over-prideful & over-charging for their value. Have things improved (for us) now that 'Boss Den' is getting more&more lame?

[QUOTE=Zimzam;2692073]For the intrepid amongst you, there is an area in the large slum in Nairobi, Kakamega, where there are many brothels where it seems locals can get laid, starting from 150 ksh upwards.

The guy in this video shows it all.

I hope this link works:

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=1420384981753393&_rdr[/URL][/QUOTE]Sorry Zimzan,

Kagamega is a town north of Kisumu middle in the nowhere. I know some Girls there stay in Mtwapa are from Kagamega. Its a poor region.

What are the going rates for Tinder girls in Nairobi? I'm asking them to spend a few hours and have been quoted anything from 2 K to 50 K.

[QUOTE=MintyPolo;2696376]What are the going rates for Tinder girls in Nairobi? I'm asking them to spend a few hours and have been quoted anything from 2 K to 50 K.[/QUOTE]2 k-5 k is my payable rate, they will come if wanting money, if they are okay for the time being cash wise they ask silly money, even had one ask me for 70 k.

[QUOTE=MintyPolo;2696376]What are the going rates for Tinder girls in Nairobi? I'm asking them to spend a few hours and have been quoted anything from 2 K to 50 K.[/QUOTE]I met a 22 college girl from tagged I gave her 1700 for all night she seem happy I fed her dinner bought her a drink she wants to see me again. I don't go on tinder so I guess I'm not answering your question I just prefer dating sites than a hook up site.

[QUOTE=Pcdilwj;2696609]I met a 22 college girl from tagged I gave her 1700 for all night she seem happy I fed her dinner bought her a drink she wants to see me again. I don't go on tinder so I guess I'm not answering your question I just prefer dating sites than a hook up site.[/QUOTE]I prefer girls who are *hoping* that I might ultimately want marriage, etc. I would never make any false promises, and always take good care of them, but I personally find the "business arrangement" approach to be a turnoff. I prefer a girlfriend experience. But who knows? One of them might actually capture my heart, and end my mongering days forever.

Some of these Tinder girls who look nothing special saying that they get 10 K every time. Most likely lies or there are some very generous or blind people out there.

I am first time visiting Africa. After a decade long wait It's finally happening.

I have one week only and now I am confused which country to pick for the best experience. I wanted to go to Lagos, a lot of sexy ladies but city life is ahit. On AfroIntroduction, Ghana girls have flooded my inbox but they all seem fake to me. I finally decided to give Dar es Salaam and Zanzibar try but I am worried there won't be enough selection How's Kenya scene? I have no problem jn sweet talking ladies.

Could you fellow monger please provide some suggestions.

[QUOTE=MysteryOcean;2701567]I am first time visiting Africa. After a decade long wait It's finally happening.

I have one week only and now I am confused which country to pick for the best experience. I wanted to go to Lagos, a lot of sexy ladies but city life is ahit. On AfroIntroduction, Ghana girls have flooded my inbox but they all seem fake to me. I finally decided to give Dar es Salaam and Zanzibar try but I am worried there won't be enough selection How's Kenya scene? I have no problem jn sweet talking ladies.

Could you fellow monger please provide some suggestions.[/QUOTE]Kenya. Although a week is nothing. Save a month or so for vacation.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=MysteryOcean;2701567]I am first time visiting Africa. After a decade long wait It's finally happening.

I have one week only and now I am confused which country to pick for the best experience. I wanted to go to Lagos, a lot of sexy ladies but city life is ahit. On AfroIntroduction, Ghana girls have flooded my inbox but they all seem fake to me. I finally decided to give Dar es Salaam and Zanzibar try but I am worried there won't be enough selection How's Kenya scene? I have no problem jn sweet talking ladies.

Could you fellow monger please provide some suggestions.[/QUOTE]South Africa is probably your best bet over Kenya, especially if you only have a week. Johannesburg will offer you superior flight options, better infrastructure (hotels, roads, restaurants, clubs), and more semipro options of getting laid by women who actually have jobs and their own money.

Kenya is fun, but it still suffers from suspect hotels, traffic problems, electricity outages, mosquito problems, and the other regular african nation issues. Also Kenyan girls are often referred to as the Nigerian men of african women, meaning they tend to have a scam / dishonest attitude hidden under their friendly up front outward appearance. If you really want a Kenyan gem, you will need more than 1 week, whereas in SA the women are generally cool and more the type you might stay in contact with after your trip.

While I have never been to SA, I experience Kenya girls to be honest, sweet, and less conniving than all the other monger places I have been to. The clubs are hot and tinder should guarantee a fun overnight visit if you have a good talk game and know how to entertain. Nairobi has sweeter girls, girl friendly experience, You can get the same in mombasa but I found quite a few more use to P4P. I have maintain friendship with quite few and have not sent any money. I believe the girls understand that foreigner most likely won't return so they don't put false hopes that you will be lifetime partner. They simply just enjoy the moment. This is what I observe.

[QUOTE=Vector313;2701840]South Africa is probably your best bet over Kenya, especially if you only have a week. Johannesburg will offer you superior flight options, better infrastructure (hotels, roads, restaurants, clubs), and more semipro options of getting laid by women who actually have jobs and their own money.

Kenya is fun, but it still suffers from suspect hotels, traffic problems, electricity outages, mosquito problems, and the other regular African nation issues. Also Kenyan girls are often referred to as the Nigerian men of African women, meaning they tend to have a scam / dishonest attitude hidden under their friendly up front outward appearance. If you really want a Kenyan gem, you will need more than 1 week, whereas in SA the women are generally cool and more the type you might stay in contact with after your trip.[/QUOTE].

Fellow brethren, fair warning about Abb listing 53989039: normally I NEVER book a listing with no reviews (I needed a last-minute change of my previous apt, so went with this one) -- and this is just the example of why-not.

The map-pin shows apt is 'near' Ngong Rd, possibly near Ngong Hills Hotel. (The original Title and Description actually said it was "on Ngong Rd" - the scammers changed it).

When I booked and was ready to go there, the Hosts gave me an address for Jamhuri! -- Neema Court apartment building [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/a4rUFLqx7xmd6PwF7[/URL].

(supposedly that Gmap photo is not the actual building. The real place is supposedly "across the street".

For those of you unaware, Jamhuri (like Nairobi West) are working-class neighborhoods. Not necessarily dangerous, but not worth the peace of mind of staying there, and certainly not for the rate advertised.

BEFORE I even booked, I was asking questions about the area of the flat, such as noise levels (e. G. Were any mosques nearby), the building, safety, etc. So they knew was asking about the Ngong Rd area. They never mentioned Jamhuri. Thus, Scammers.

Although the apartment may indeed be real and look as nice as the photos, I did not book for Jamhuri, I booked for that area of the map-pin.

When I called out the hosts for their lie and demanded they cancel and refund my booking, they went silent. I immediately contacted Abb Corporate, and via their new program "Aircover" [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/3218/getting-protected-through-aircover[/URL].

-- in which Abb finally steps up taking care of customers, no longer leaving you on the hook for bad and scamming listings -- I got my refund within one day.

For good measure, copied the name and phone number of the scammers, in case I book a listing that seems legit, but they are the hosts. (Be warned, they have several listings with title "DALM".

Hi all. Reporting from an ongoing trip. Did some prep before arriving in NBO, and one of the candidates was a place called massage spa hurlingham. I think they have several locations but I used the one not far from Jamia central mall. Directions should be provided over whatsapp. Pretty nice experience on top floor of a building. Enter, sit in a room, girls come to show themselves and say their names, at the end receptionist comes to ask which one the client fancies.

5 k and two really nice handjob / blowjobs later with a fun Kamba lady I went out with a spring in my step. Nothing incredibly memorable (unlike a massage I got a few years ago in a random place I found in Kilimani which I still hope to find again and revisit for chance of being lucky to find the same lady), but very nice nonetheless. Showers provided and the lady told me they serve drinks in the spa too. Now that's what I call a full service Not sure about full-on sex, which is not really my preference in spa's (not that difficult to find escorts for incalls if that's your sport), but likely possible with some negotiation.

By the way, whatever happened to Westlands? It may have been a Monday evening but dayummmm was the place dead for a guy looking for a pint.

[QUOTE=Vector313;2701840]Kenya is fun, but it still suffers from suspect hotels, traffic problems, electricity outages, mosquito problems, and the other regular african nation issues. [/QUOTE]I have been in Nairobi two times for two weeks and I have never experience any of these. Except traffic but it's totally common thing in every capital city.

[QUOTE=Vector313;2701840] Also Kenyan girls are often referred to as the Nigerian men of african women, meaning they tend to have a scam / dishonest attitude hidden under their friendly up front outward appearance. If you really want a Kenyan gem, you will need more than 1 week, whereas in SA the women are generally cool and more the type you might stay in contact with after your trip.[/QUOTE]Again, I have never met a single girl that comes close to that. I met maybe 15 different girls from all over Kenya and never ever met someone that "have a scam / dishonest attitude hidden under their friendly up front outward appearance". Never. By the way it was the opposite. I found this comment utterly misleading. So any one of you brothers, who have never been in Kenya and have plans to visit the country, be with a positive mind set, just go there and enjoy life with the crazy sex loving Kenyan girls. Don't fall victim to misleading stereotypes about local girls.

Speaking about the "dishonest attitude", I have to admit that I was the person with that attitude lol. Some girls were a little disappointed that we didn`t met more often or I promised them to meet but in fact didn`t fulfil my promise - lack of time and energy, or I just prefered other girls for that day/night.

To back up my words I'm just saying that I plan my third visit there and just can't wait to arrive again in Nairobi!

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2703028]I have been in Nairobi two times for two weeks and I have never experience any of these. Except traffic but it's totally common thing in every capital city.

Again, I have never met a single girl that comes close to that. I met maybe 15 different girls from all over Kenya and never ever met someone that "have a scam / dishonest attitude hidden under their friendly up front outward appearance". Never. By the way it was the opposite. I found this comment utterly misleading. So any one of you brothers, who have never been in Kenya and have plans to visit the country, be with a positive mind set, just go there and enjoy life with the crazy sex loving Kenyan girls. Don't fall victim to misleading stereotypes about local girls.

Speaking about the "dishonest attitude", I have to admit that I was the person with that attitude lol. Some girls were a little disappointed that we didn`t met more often or I promised them to meet but in fact didn`t fulfil my promise - lack of time and energy, or I just prefered other girls for that day/night.

To back up my words I'm just saying that I plan my third visit there and just can't wait to arrive again in Nairobi![/QUOTE]Totally agree. I love Africa in general and will continue to return. Scammers / dishonest behavior go both ways. Men trying to take advantage of women and the other way around. I take every story on these sites with a grain of salt.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2702231]While I have never been to SA, I experience Kenya girls to be honest, sweet, and less conniving than all the other monger places I have been to. The clubs are hot and tinder should guarantee a fun overnight visit if you have a good talk game and know how to entertain. Nairobi has sweeter girls, girl friendly experience, You can get the same in mombasa but I found quite a few more use to P4P. I have maintain friendship with quite few and have not sent any money. I believe the girls understand that foreigner most likely won't return so they don't put false hopes that you will be lifetime partner. They simply just enjoy the moment. This is what I observe.

.[/QUOTE]Are there many slim / spinner type girls in Nairobi? Is English widely spoken and can I get by with just English?

[QUOTE=ElMoreno92;2703269]Are there many slim / spinner type girls in Nairobi? Is English widely spoken and can I get by with just English?[/QUOTE]Yes and yes.

One thing to be cautious about, at least in my experience, with Tinder girls is that they can be a catfish or generally look notably worse than their Tinder photos. Best to have them send over photos and videocall them beforehand to get an idea of what to expect otherwise you may find someone very different or loosely resembling what you thought was going to meet you.

Jesus this is exactly why I stopped posting on this forum.

First off, I wasn't speaking to you. I was answering the question of a newbie.

Secondly, if you actually read what I wrote instead of getting all in your feelings, I didn't say Kenya was bad. I said for that person's particular situation, south Africa is better.

Third, I've been traveling to Kenya for over 10 years and was married to a miiikenda lady for 3 of those 10. I know wtf I'm talking about because I actually lived in the country, not just visited short vacations like you. I know the people and the infrastructure.

Stick to your own posts and stop trying to discredit others just because you fell in love with a few cheap Kenyan lays. I've been all across the African continent from Dakar to Addis too Nairobi to Luanda, niamey and back to Kigali. Kenya is cool but it's really not all that.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2703028]I have been in Nairobi two times for two weeks and I have never experience any of these. Except traffic but it's totally common thing in every capital city.

Again, I have never met a single girl that comes close to that. I met maybe 15 different girls from all over Kenya and never ever met someone that "have a scam / dishonest attitude hidden under their friendly up front outward appearance". Never. By the way it was the opposite. I found this comment utterly misleading. So any one of you brothers, who have never been in Kenya and have plans to visit the country, be with a positive mind set, just go there and enjoy life with the crazy sex loving Kenyan girls. Don't fall victim to misleading stereotypes about local girls.

Speaking about the "dishonest attitude", I have to admit that I was the person with that attitude lol. Some girls were a little disappointed that we didn`t met more often or I promised them to meet but in fact didn`t fulfil my promise - lack of time and energy, or I just prefered other girls for that day/night.

To back up my words I'm just saying that I plan my third visit there and just can't wait to arrive again in Nairobi![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vector313;2703657]Jesus this is exactly why I stopped posting on this forum.

First off, I wasn't speaking to you. I was answering the question of a newbie.

Secondly, if you actually read what I wrote instead of getting all in your feelings, I didn't say Kenya was bad. I said for that person's particular situation, south Africa is better.

Third, I've been traveling to Kenya for over 10 years and was married to a miiikenda lady for 3 of those 10. I know wtf I'm talking about because I actually lived in the country, not just visited short vacations like you. I know the people and the infrastructure.

Stick to your own posts and stop trying to discredit others just because you fell in love with a few cheap Kenyan lays. I've been all across the African continent from Dakar to Addis too Nairobi to Luanda, niamey and back to Kigali. Kenya is cool but it's really not all that.[/QUOTE]What would you rate as the best P4P countries in Africa?

So far few girls I talked to willing meet, but the audacity is something else. Once girl asked $2000 for threesome, one asked IPhone and one asked $500.

I live in California, can make daily trip to Tijuana. Those exotic Mexican girls are $100 max. I guess I will have to skip Kenya and go straight to Kampala.

If there any other country where girls aren't delusional? I got similar sense from conversations with girls from Ghana.

[QUOTE=Vector313;2703657]Jesus this is exactly why I stopped posting on this forum.

First off, I wasn't speaking to you. I was answering the question of a newbie.

Secondly, if you actually read what I wrote instead of getting all in your feelings, I didn't say Kenya was bad. I said for that person's particular situation, south Africa is better.

Third, I've been traveling to Kenya for over 10 years and was married to a miiikenda lady for 3 of those 10. I know wtf I'm talking about because I actually lived in the country, not just visited short vacations like you. I know the people and the infrastructure.

Stick to your own posts and stop trying to discredit others just because you fell in love with a few cheap Kenyan lays. I've been all across the African continent from Dakar to Addis too Nairobi to Luanda, niamey and back to Kigali. Kenya is cool but it's really not all that.[/QUOTE]Based on your opinion about the Kenyan girls, it seems that your marriage wasnt a happy one. And based on the positive vibes from your messages, maybe the problem was not with these evil monsters the Kenyan girls.

[QUOTE=MysteryOcean;2704471]So far few girls I talked to willing meet, but the audacity is something else. Once girl asked $2000 for threesome, one asked IPhone and one asked $500.

I live in California, can make daily trip to Tijuana. Those exotic Mexican girls are $100 max. I guess I will have to skip Kenya and go straight to Kampala.

If there any other country where girls aren't delusional? I got similar sense from conversations with girls from Ghana.[/QUOTE]Of coarse. If they think you are green they will ask, no harm in them trying to hook the odd idiot who will stump up something silly.

In reality on the ground people are mostly paying 2,3,4 k and some more than that in Nbi.

[QUOTE=MintyPolo;2704127]What would you rate as the best P4P countries in Africa?[/QUOTE]It really depends on what your personal approach is. Personally I'm Nigerian descendant american, so I can "blend in" more than most in many countries. I personally rank them as 1. Seychelles, 2. Uganda, 3. South Africa, 4. Kenya. If I had to pick a 5th I'd say Cameroon but that's only from experience of sleeping with a few Cameroonian women that I've met in other countries as that's one of the few countries I haven't actually been to. I tend to avoid the francaphone countries after my Senegal visit because my french is very minimal, but Cameroon people tend to speak both english and french. If your french is strong, then I'd say Cameroon and Senegal are good bets too. I encountered many hot chicks in Dakar, but if you don't speak Hausa then you are pretty much screwed.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2704718]Based on your opinion about the Kenyan girls, it seems that your marriage wasnt a happy one. And based on the positive vibes from your messages, maybe the problem was not with these evil monsters the Kenyan girls.[/QUOTE]Seeing that you only focused on the girls when my comment to the other poster clearly stated that flights, hotels, and infrastructure were also major factors in my response only tells me that you have a serious problem focusing on pussy instead of other matters of life. But that's not surprising, since resorting to ad-hominem attacks instead of addressing the point made is a common femine debate tactic, and to make my own ad-hominem attack ... your posts give off a very feminie simp energy.

Don't bother responding to me again.

[QUOTE=MysteryOcean;2704471]So far few girls I talked to willing meet, but the audacity is something else. Once girl asked $2000 for threesome, one asked IPhone and one asked $500.

I live in California, can make daily trip to Tijuana. Those exotic Mexican girls are $100 max. I guess I will have to skip Kenya and go straight to Kampala.

If there any other country where girls aren't delusional? I got similar sense from conversations with girls from Ghana.[/QUOTE]Every girl in every african country will ask you for an iphone 12 pro max LOL. That's because they love to take selfies in club/bar mirrors and show of the 3 camera bump on the back of the phone as a flex to their IG followers and whatsapp status friends.

Don't pay them any mind. That is of course, if you want to score huge points with the right girl, you can get an iphone SE for $399. LOL.

What I like about Nairobi is the National Parks so nearby. A daily hike in Karura Forest seems affordable! Nothing but the perfect cheap Airbnb's.

[QUOTE]The party times in CBD are over. Back in the days. Florida 2 k. Simmers. Madhouse. Even Black Diamond back in the days was fun.[/QUOTE]I get a very bad vibe from Nairobi when I read the forum. Prices way too high, no advice on where else to go?! Hardcore pro Central Business District (CBD)? I don't even consider Dating websites.

The Soi 6 of Pattaya (ahum used to be $15 anyways), the Kabalagala of Kampala. Where I can spread the good herb amongst these fine ladies in a pocket friendly way.

CBD / Westland based on reviews I fear are going to be hardcore expensive 5 k a night or worse:

Black Diamond.

Florida Night Club.

Relax Pub & Restaurant.

New Amar Bar & Restaurant.

Ricoz Pub.

New nyanza pub.

Small World Waters.

Apple Bees.

Sabina Joy pub (reviews of 5-10 k for all night slim girls.).

Relax Inn.

Nairobi kitale club.

Tea Room Guesthouse.

Club Bavon.

Liddos.

Gabeez.

Tahiti lounge.

Obviously this is Nairobi and 2 k for the night should still be possible. I'm not much into streetwalkers and prefer bars but since CBD seems so hardcore, how are the CBD streets? Hot slim girls? I found the locations but no price info.

CBD Streetwalkers:

Koinange Street.

River road.

Accra Road.

Luthuli Avenue.

Duruma Road Latema Road.

Kirinyaga road.

Parliament Road.

Ronald Ngara.

Outside CBD I consider SW here:

Argwings Kodhek Road (Hurlingham).

12th Street (Eastleigh).

Spine Road / Nyama Villa Club (Umoja).

The stretch from Tabernacle Church to Capital Centre (South B).

Some confirmed hooker bars outside CBD, is 2 k for the night enough here? Prices please if anyone has been here:

Mirangi Bar (Eastleigh).

JK Mbuthia House Bar (Huruma).

Heshima Junior Bar and Restaurant (Pipeline Embakasi).

Club Paris (Umoja).

Nyama Villa Club & Discotheque (Umoja).

207 Lounge Bar (Maziwa).

Kipkabus Safari Club (Ngara).

Zebra Bar (Kawangware).

Airportzone club (Githurai 44).

Double M Bar & Lodging (Githurai 44).

I'm looking for the Capital Pub of Kampala in Nairobi. Any of these bars fit the description? Any help on hooker bars outside CBD would be appreciated. No way this list is this short!

[QUOTE=Anthony8;2706357]What I like about Nairobi is the National Parks so nearby. A daily hike in Karura Forest seems affordable! Nothing but the perfect cheap Airbnb's.

I get a very bad vibe from Nairobi when I read the forum. Prices way too high, no advice on where else to go?! Hardcore pro Central Business District (CBD)? I don't even consider Dating websites.

<snip!>[/QUOTE]Wow, this is the best site-scrape I've ever seen, LOL!

I can't answer on almost any of those places. Only to say-- if you're a mzungu, I would NOT be seen *walking* the areas of most of those places at night! (Using taxi / share to go directly there, and leave. MAYBE!

A few updated items. Year 2022:

Nairobi is as cheap or as expensive as you want to make it. That's the 'beauty' of a country so corrupt. It's 'money-laudering capital of Africa' economy provides so many opportunities for the adventurous!

Want a great meal for 5 USD or less? Try one of the Highlands Restaurants. Kenyan food of course, but yummy! E. g. Highlands Restaurants. Premier on Moi Ave diagonally across from Hilton Hotel.

Want a ridiculously (even for the US) expensive meal e. G. 14 USD just for an appetizer? Try INTI restaurant at that domed building (One Africa Place) on Westlands Roundabout.

Want a highly affordable APARTMENT, allegedly walking distance to CBD, for approx 30 USD per night? Try AirBnB listing 595244759058479447.

Want an expensive hotel ROOM for about 240 USD per night. But definitely walking-distance to Sarit Centre? Try Sankara Hotel, also near Westlands Roundabout.

Streetwalkers?

I don't know the skinny on where the best pickup spots are.

But just a few nights ago I was leaving my honey's place after midnight (after a nice BJ & bouncy session, thank-you-very-much), and I saw a few along Wood Ave, in Yaya area. Try Wood Ave from top (Argwings Khodek Rd) to bottom (Kindaruma Rd).

There're quite a few 3-4 star hotels, condos and apt buildings along that 'strip', so that must be a good 'business corridor'.

Clubs?

I'm not convince there are any more decent pickup clubs anywhere in NBO, especially after the end of the era of the sweet CBD spots. If there are any good ones, people are keeping mum. I guess they don't want a wave of wazungu to put the places on the govt's radar.

How to meet the honeys? Although it's demoralising, got to go with dating apps.

I found Tinder to be the "best" option, as the girls try to put on a best image they can. BEWARE of catfishing, it's rampant! Absolutely demand video-call before meeting; and even then, maybe a casual first meetup to ensure the goods are still good.

AfroIntroductions is definitely middle-of-the-road. Trouble is, a few real-life 9's and 10's got mzungu husbands thru there, now every slag-hag 3/4/5/6, with bad hair weaves and two or more kids, think they're going to find their soulmates on the site.

Still, it is possible to snag some half-decent 7's and 8's.

I found the 9's to be so snotty, they really believe they're too good to play-for-pay, they're going to wait for the mzungu husband, no matter what.

[URL]Tagged.com[/URL] is the absolutely worse. Full of scammers (this is a sample if you see a profile that's a 9 or 10: [URL]https://taglisted.forumotion.com/t27583-scammer-with-photos-of-pornstar-daya-knight[/URL]), mostly 2's and 3's who don't even hide that they're 2's and 3's, and most of the higher level girls (or fake profiles) are still lame.

There you go, that'll get you started. Other's can talk about the specific venues and locations.

Somebody get this man a beer, dammit!

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2709479]Wow, this is the best site-scrape I've ever seen, LOL!

I can't answer on almost any of those places. Only to say-- if you're a mzungu, I would NOT be seen *walking* the areas of most of those places at night! (Using taxi / share to go directly there, and leave. MAYBE!

A few updated items. Year 2022:

Nairobi is as cheap or as expensive as you want to make it. That's the 'beauty' of a country so corrupt. It's 'money-laudering capital of Africa' economy provides so many opportunities for the adventurous!

Want a great meal for 5 USD or less? Try one of the Highlands Restaurants. Kenyan food of course, but yummy! E. g. Highlands Restaurants. Premier on Moi Ave diagonally across from Hilton Hotel.

Want a ridiculously (even for the US) expensive meal e. G. 14 USD just for an appetizer? Try INTI restaurant at that domed building (One Africa Place) on Westlands Roundabout...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vector313;2705067]It really depends on what your personal approach is. Personally I'm Nigerian descendant american, so I can "blend in" more than most in many countries. I personally rank them as 1. Seychelles, 2. Uganda, 3. South Africa, 4. Kenya. If I had to pick a 5th I'd say Cameroon but that's only from experience of sleeping with a few Cameroonian women that I've met in other countries as that's one of the few countries I haven't actually been to. I tend to avoid the francaphone countries after my Senegal visit because my french is very minimal, but Cameroon people tend to speak both english and french. If your french is strong, then I'd say Cameroon and Senegal are good bets too. I encountered many hot chicks in Dakar, but if you don't speak Hausa then you are pretty much screwed.[/QUOTE]Why Hausa? Isn't that mainly spoken in norther parts of Nigeria. Isn't Senegal French and Wolof? So is French enough or do you need Wolof there? Also, what makes Seychelles go to the top of your list? I haven't seen many others talk about it before.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2709701]Why Hausa? Isn't that mainly spoken in norther parts of Nigeria. Isn't Senegal French and Wolof? So is French enough or do you need Wolof there? Also, what makes Seychelles go to the top of your list? I haven't seen many others talk about it before.[/QUOTE]French will get you anywhere in Dakar.

[QUOTE=Anthony8;2706357]What I like about Nairobi is the National Parks so nearby. A daily hike in Karura Forest seems affordable! Nothing but the perfect cheap Airbnb's.

I get a very bad vibe from Nairobi when I read the forum. Prices way too high, no advice on where else to go?! Hardcore pro Central Business District (CBD)? I don't even consider Dating websites.

The Soi 6 of Pattaya (ahum used to be $15 anyways), the Kabalagala of Kampala. Where I can spread the good herb amongst these fine ladies in a pocket friendly way.

CBD / Westland based on reviews I fear are going to be hardcore expensive 5 k a night or worse:

Black Diamond.

Florida Night Club.

Relax Pub & Restaurant.

New Amar Bar & Restaurant.

Ricoz Pub.

New nyanza pub.

Small World Waters.

Apple Bees.

Sabina Joy pub (reviews of 5-10 k for all night slim girls.).

Relax Inn.

Nairobi kitale club.

Tea Room Guesthouse.

Club Bavon.

Liddos.

Gabeez.

Tahiti lounge.

Obviously this is Nairobi and 2 k for the night should still be possible. I'm not much into streetwalkers and prefer bars but since CBD seems so hardcore, how are the CBD streets? Hot slim girls? I found the locations but no price info.

CBD Streetwalkers:

Koinange Street.

River road.

Accra Road.

Luthuli Avenue.

Duruma Road Latema Road.

Kirinyaga road.

Parliament Road.

Ronald Ngara.

Outside CBD I consider SW here:

Argwings Kodhek Road (Hurlingham).

12th Street (Eastleigh).

Spine Road / Nyama Villa Club (Umoja).

The stretch from Tabernacle Church to Capital Centre (South B).

Some confirmed hooker bars outside CBD, is 2 k for the night enough here? Prices please if anyone has been here:

Mirangi Bar (Eastleigh).

JK Mbuthia House Bar (Huruma).

Heshima Junior Bar and Restaurant (Pipeline Embakasi).

Club Paris (Umoja).

Nyama Villa Club & Discotheque (Umoja).

207 Lounge Bar (Maziwa).

Kipkabus Safari Club (Ngara).

Zebra Bar (Kawangware).

Airportzone club (Githurai 44).

Double M Bar & Lodging (Githurai 44).

I'm looking for the Capital Pub of Kampala in Nairobi. Any of these bars fit the description? Any help on hooker bars outside CBD would be appreciated. No way this list is this short![/QUOTE]I don't know so much about Nairobi but when I was there a year ago, I always went to Brew Bistro, that was nice night club, both tourist and professional girls.

Living in Nairobi is more expensive than in Mombasa, so girls ask more money. I don't know what is medium prize in Nairobi.

When Nairobi girls visit Mombasa (often, for vacation)), they ask Nairobi prices or some crazy prize, and their mouth literally drop down when I tell them that I can get girls for two thousand for night. Last time I visited Diani, one Nairobi girl asked me eight thousand, next one ten thousand, and later one twenty thousand. These were all short time prizes of course.

Anthony8.

Plenty of those places on the list I am not sure you would want to go. Places in Umoja, Eastleigh, Kawangware, etc at night! They will be fine through the day but may not be open or have anyone in them.

You are better sticking to Westlands and places like Havana, Black Diamond now Boss Den, and Brew Bistro. Brew Bistro also has a place on Ngong Road. There are plenty other places with good crowds but I am a bit out the loop on Nbi these days.

CBD / Town during the day early evening like Sabina Joy, just find a bar with loud music and women will be available.

I can't say I would ever use streetwalkers in Kenya. High risk of HiV etc.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2709701]Why Hausa? Isn't that mainly spoken in norther parts of Nigeria. Isn't Senegal French and Wolof? So is French enough or do you need Wolof there? Also, what makes Seychelles go to the top of your list? I haven't seen many others talk about it before.[/QUOTE]My bad you are right. I keep mixing up Niger and Senegal in my head. Senegal = Wolof. Niger = Hausa. I would say spoken French shoud be enough, but READING french is a no go. I was using google translate to chat and the girls were looking at me puzzled. It's one of those old "I can speak it but I can't write it' types of deals there.

Seychelles .... LOL. Go read that forum bro. It's all in there.

In country, I extended my visa. So 6 months in total. I have the document that covers me to my flight.

Just checking. I saw something on the eFNS website about people staying over 90 days registering for some document (Can anyone confirm all I need is a print out of my visa extension to exit the country? I assume there's nothing else needed, but I don't need problems at immigration when I try to leave!

(To the guy below, I bet you could mess around at night in Easleigh. If you didn't walk anywhere or have more than 2 beers. But once you're in a bar, you're fine.).

[QUOTE=Comoros23;2712048]
Can anyone confirm all I need is a print out of my visa extension to exit the country? I assume there's nothing else needed, but I don't need problems at immigration when I try to leave!

[/QUOTE]The extension has to be registered in the system. That is what they check at the airport. So beware of conmen who provide false printed extensions.

[QUOTE=Comoros23;2712048]In country, I extended my visa. So 6 months in total. I have the document that covers me to my flight.

Just checking. I saw something on the eFNS website about people staying over 90 days registering for some document (Can anyone confirm all I need is a print out of my visa extension to exit the country? I assume there's nothing else needed, but I don't need problems at immigration when I try to leave!

(To the guy below, I bet you could mess around at night in Easleigh. If you didn't walk anywhere or have more than 2 beers. But once you're in a bar, you're fine.).[/QUOTE]I did not have any document printed, all I had was my passport, they checked dates there. Maybe they connected to some database, probably.

I was six month also, left on the last day.

[QUOTE=Comoros23;2712048]In country, I extended my visa. So 6 months in total. I have the document that covers me to my flight.

Just checking. I saw something on the eFNS website about people staying over 90 days registering for some document (Can anyone confirm all I need is a print out of my visa extension to exit the country? I assume there's nothing else needed, but I don't need problems at immigration when I try to leave!

(To the guy below, I bet you could mess around at night in Easleigh. If you didn't walk anywhere or have more than 2 beers. But once you're in a bar, you're fine.).[/QUOTE]Yes theoretically you need to do so.

Pre eFNS most people did not realize because the immigration officer (usually) automatically did it when extending the Visa.

Even if they don't control it strictly, it is better to do it.

If you don't and come across an immigration officer in bad mood or need of extra money, you might get into trouble.

Theoretically you then also should receive an Alien ID Card, which is helpful because it's recognized and you don't have to carry your passport all the time anymore.

Usually you never get it cause it takes them more than 3 months to issue it.

So my advice would be, to pass by at the immigration office to avoid any future possible trouble.

Keep us updated.

[QUOTE=Comoros23;2712048]In country, I extended my visa. So 6 months in total. I have the document that covers me to my flight.

Just checking. I saw something on the eFNS website about people staying over 90 days registering for some document (Can anyone confirm all I need is a print out of my visa extension to exit the country? I assume there's nothing else needed, but I don't need problems at immigration when I try to leave!

(To the guy below, I bet you could mess around at night in Easleigh. If you didn't walk anywhere or have more than 2 beers. But once you're in a bar, you're fine.).[/QUOTE]You are right. Stay over 90 days you actually have to (should apply) for a Non resident alien ID. Not much use though. By the time it was issued usually after months its expired already.

Mwalimu.

Who's actually planning to hang out in Eastleigh.

[QUOTE=Leblon;2710357]I don't know so much about Nairobi but when I was there a year ago, I always went to Brew Bistro, that was nice night club, both tourist and professional girls.

Living in Nairobi is more expensive than in Mombasa, so girls ask more money. I don't know what is medium prize in Nairobi.

When Nairobi girls visit Mombasa (often, for vacation)), they ask Nairobi prices or some crazy prize, and their mouth literally drop down when I tell them that I can get girls for two thousand for night. Last time I visited Diani, one Nairobi girl asked me eight thousand, next one ten thousand, and later one twenty thousand. These were all short time prizes of course.[/QUOTE]You must be joking right? 20 k for a short time? I would not even pay that much for an entire week!

Is Nairobi really this ridiculous these days?

It must be understood that there are different prices for muAfrica, muIndi, musungu, Turists. There is also another price for stupid tourists and this has no limit.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2712588]You must be joking right? 20 k for a short time? I would not even pay that much for an ENTIRE WEEK!

Is Nairobi really this ridiculous these days??[/QUOTE]Over the years I have had plenty of girls in Nbi ask for 20-30 k and even as much as 80 k. If a girl is not short of cash when you ask her price for the deed then they will quote silly amounts in the hope that some idiot pays it and yes some do.

I find there is still plenty to be had for 3, 4, 5 k.

I am not sure what the girls are asking for in the bars where the wazungu frequent these days if anyone knows please update.

Payment is a subtle thing. Many girls are not used to it (those I prefer), some blush, some are shocked and to some it is like preaching to a converted.

FYI: Stayed in Kenya for 6 months. Got one extension.

Went to immigration in CBD a few days before my flight and they were surprised I hadn't got this endorsed. They wrote on a page of my passport that an extension had been given. I didn't see if this was actually checked at the airport.

A little off-putting because I don't remember reading during the online extension process that this was necessary!

Greetings,

Does anyone knows a place in Nairobi where I can hear some Congolese live musik like days ago at Simmers?

I'm next week in Town and it would be nice to hear such music. Reminds me to the old days.

Thanks P.

Sorry for my still bad English.

[QUOTE=Tonsillol;2717687]Greetings,

Does anyone knows a place in Nairobi where I can hear some Congolese live musik like days ago at Simmers?

I'm next week in Town and it would be nice to hear such music. Reminds me to the old days.

Thanks P.

Sorry for my still bad English.[/QUOTE]I was looking for the same. Nobody could tell me anything. In some upscale hotels maybe occasionally. Same as Vision Congo in KLA. Closed down. I hope there'll be some life concerts. Don't forget. The entertainment industry took a big hit during COVID. There's some joints which play Congolese music. But not live.

In Mtwapa there was Legends. Also kaputt now.

There was a guy named Ricky Mulolo and band.

Mwalimu.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Bu-3G3iJ_qs[/URL]

Before covid there was this Band at club Africana (I've heard it's closed now) in Dubai who played Congolese music and during Ramadan they went to Nairobi and played there. But I didn't know where.

I did some investigations with the name you told, takes a bit time but I found out it could be possible that some live music is playing at.

Treasures Gardens Argwings Kodhek Rd.

Hera Aqua Gardens Kandara Rd.

And maybe K'Osewe Ranalo Foods Kamathi St CBD.

I will take a look if it's true when I'm there.

And yes during covid many things have changed.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2717767]I was looking for the same. Nobody could tell me anything. In some upscale hotels maybe occasionally. Same as Vision Congo in KLA. Closed down. I hope there'll be some life concerts. Don't forget. The entertainment industry took a big hit during COVID. There's some joints which play Congolese music. But not live.

In Mtwapa there was Legends. Also kaputt now.

There was a guy named Ricky Mulolo and band.

Mwalimu.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Bu-3G3iJ_qs[/URL][/QUOTE]

The amount of ladies who know and love old school US country can't be ignored. If you include those in your playlist, Maximum fun. Speak from experience.

Available at.

Treasure Gardens.

Hera Aqua Gardens Friday Saturday at 6 pm.

Vibro Club Fri, Sat, Sun at 6:30 pm.

Pitstop Grill Wed, Fri, Sat, Sun.

Google Maps will locate you.

Ricky Mololo Ideologica playing in different places, like Standard Grill, opposite Lambada on Fridays.

Ambro la Musica, on Wednesdays in the Yacht Lounge and on Saturdays in his own club, Bottoms Up in Shanzu.

Personally I find Amitie Musica the best Congolese band with the most balanced sound and the best singers. They are playing every weekend in the Summit Grill in Bombolulu, on Wednesdays in Bamburi and sometimes in the Maasai Beach Club in Nyali.

For actual information you can go to this site:

[URL]https://whats-on-mombasa.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tonsillol;2721462]Available at.

Treasure Gardens.

Google Maps will locate you.[/QUOTE]Pay with mpesa there once and you'll be sent an sms almost every day keeping you. Informed.

[QUOTE=Zimzam;2721577]Ricky Mololo Ideologica playing in different places, like Standard Grill, opposite Lambada on fridays.

Ambro la Musica, on wednesdays in the Yacht Lounge and on saturdays in his own club, Bottoms Up in Shanzu.

Personally I find Amitie Musica the best Congolese band with the most balanced sound and the best singers. They are playing every weekend in the Summit Grill in Bombolulu, on Wednesdays in Bamburi and sometimes in the Maasai Beach Club in Nyali.

For actual information you can go to this site:

[URL]https://whats-on-mombasa.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Ambro + band is at Mios (Bamburi town) on Thursdays. I think he plays somewhere almost every day.

I will check out Amitie Musica one Wednesday when I'm back in Kenya (Sky Lounge, Bamburi town).

As a burned child and I guess many reports about security here, I still have to say.

Do not use your phone outside the streets late night.

Otherwise something could happen what happen to me.

I was standing outside Sabina joy and trying to organize an uber for me and my night nurse. Someone came running and slap my phone out of my hand. The second unfriendly guy take my phone from the ground and run away. No chance, except you are trained well in running. Though some advice's say don't follow such useless persons of mankind cause maybe they bring more troubles in his area for you.

My advice is.

Do not show your phone around, doesn't matter daytime or nighttime.

Have a backup phone with you.

Otherwise it will be difficult for you to reach your favorite ladies from badoo, tinder, afro or whatever.

Use an applocker for your apps and block everything what's important.

Take your logistics for transportation or whatever inside the club.

Go outside hands free and watch carefully your area.

Please do not tell me how stupid I was. I know it very well.

Greetings from Mombasa.

[QUOTE=Tonsillol;2724491]
Do not use your phone outside the streets late night.
[/QUOTE]Where did this happen?

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2724750]Where did this happen?[/QUOTE]He said outside Sabina Joy.

This is common in CBD, phone snatches happen all the time. There is a good clip on you tube of a guy in CBD sitting in a taxi holding his hand out the window with his phone in it showing all the snatch attempts.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2724750]Where did this happen?[/QUOTE]The reason I asked is that there's some fragmented information online referring to a Sabina Joy in Mombasa. But, its Africa. Then there's Greetings from Mombasa on the Nairobi forum.

I was in the Sabina Joy on Moi Ave Central Business District (CBD) in April. It was so loud that no way you would've made a call from inside. Don't get down on yourself. If you must break out the phone, I was advised to stand with your back against the wall and always be ready for attack. Years ago, I had my Blackberry jacked in E. St Louis, MO. You will be prepared the next time.

When I walked in to Sabina Joy, there were a few customers mixed in that were just sitting at tables and at the bar drinking nothing at all. I noticed that they seemed to scan my clothes pockets. Being so loud I couldn't hear the receptionist and feeling my personal alarms, I pointed to my ears then turned around and walked out. I immediately crossed the street in case I was being followed then crossed again down the road.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2725797]The reason I asked is that there's some fragmented information online referring to a Sabina Joy in Mombasa. But, its Africa. Then there's Greetings from Mombasa on the Nairobi forum.

I was in the Sabina Joy on Moi Ave Central Business District (CBD) in April. It was so loud that no way you would've made a call from inside. Don't get down on yourself. If you must break out the phone, I was advised to stand with your back against the wall and always be ready for attack. Years ago, I had my Blackberry jacked in E. St Louis, MO. You will be prepared the next time.

When I walked in to Sabina Joy, there were a few customers mixed in that were just sitting at tables and at the bar drinking nothing at all. I noticed that they seemed to scan my clothes pockets. Being so loud I couldn't hear the receptionist and feeling my personal alarms, I pointed to my ears then turned around and walked out. I immediately crossed the street in case I was being followed then crossed again down the road.[/QUOTE]What's the big deal. I was in Sabina Joy a month ago. SOP after night falls. 2000 KES distributed between both my pockets and my left sock. Plus my 20 $ Nokia African Edition NON smart phone including torch light. In bad areas I carry my 20 $ tactical aluminum torch with serrated Aluminum edges. Hurts a lot. The music was bearable. Sweet bongo and gengeton tunes. Later Congolese. Looks sure. I was the only Muzungu in there but then again. I have a black heart. Kweli kabisa.

Mwalimu.

Who is roaming the Swahili coast.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2725797]The reason I asked is that there's some fragmented information online referring to a Sabina Joy in Mombasa. But, its Africa. Then there's Greetings from Mombasa on the Nairobi forum.[/QUOTE]Was happen in Nairobi but when I wrote the text I was in Mombasa.

I also visited Eureka Bar next to Sabina Joy but a bit too professional there. Also no interesting ones inside.

Before I was at Scratch Bar, fully crowded and very interesting ones but they were in groups. So a bit difficult to get in contact.

How long after the elections do things go back to normal? Realise I'm arriving two weeks after the election.

[QUOTE=MintyPolo;2728538]How long after the elections do things go back to normal? Realise I'm arriving two weeks after the election.[/QUOTE]Who knows? Neither will likely accept defeat but the courts are pretty strong these days so hopefully if it comes to that it will sort itself out quickly. If there is trouble it is usually in the slum areas.

[QUOTE=MintyPolo;2728538]How long after the elections do things go back to normal? Realise I'm arriving two weeks after the election.[/QUOTE]I am in Kenya now, elections are on 9, results published 7 days after.

Haven't seen anything abnormal up to now but I am not in Nairobi now.

I and my wife would like to get a Nuru massage in Nairobi. Founds Apples Nuru massage w / a quick map search. Seems legit but they don't share pics upfront so hesitating to visit the place. Wondering if there are other options in Nairobi? We're looking for BI girls local or foreigners to get a full service.

Side note: If anyone has a personal contact they're willing to share, that would be greatly appreciated as well.

I'm talking to a lot of girls on dating sites so I'm asking them how much is bolt from there home to westlands where I will stay what are BM willing to pay to meet a girl I'm not willing to pay more than 600 bobs one way to meet a girl a lot of girls say they don't used public transportation just uber or bolt so if they say its 1.5 k to come to westlands by uber I'm not interested in them any feedback.

[QUOTE=Pcdilwj;2729741]...a lot of girls say they don't used public transportation just uber or bolt...[/QUOTE]A lot of girls LIE. They take public transit ALL. The. Time. They take matatus to meet you wherever. After you have your fun and let them leave or kick them out, it's straight to the matatu stage they will go, not call Bolt.

They want you to pay that extra so they can brag to their friends you spoiled them.

And you're too generous even at 600 KSh: I just went thru my Bolt receipts and here're some examples:

580 KSh. Due to nighttime jam:

Pickup: Charles New Road - 20:52.

Dropoff: Westlands - 21:37.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/NQJANdtdayqdAGgj8[/URL]

530 KSh:

Pickup: Kibera - 20:48.

Dropoff: Gem Lane - 21:14.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/1UxDwHnFeHKZcyVM7[/URL]

450 KSh.

Pickup: Rabai Road - 18:58.

Dropoff: Yaya Centre, Argwings Kodhek Road.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/yDSfxSRBKbAtJeqp6[/URL]

So you're doing the right thing. Don't let them squeeze you for 'luxury' fares. Tell 'them the more you pay in fare, the less they get afterwards.

[QUOTE=Pcdilwj;2729741]I'm talking to a lot of girls on dating sites so I'm asking them how much is bolt from there home to westlands where I will stay what are BM willing to pay to meet a girl I'm not willing to pay more than 600 bobs one way to meet a girl a lot of girls say they don't used public transportation just uber or bolt so if they say its 1.5 k to come to westlands by uber I'm not interested in them any feedback.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pcdilwj;2729741]I'm talking to a lot of girls on dating sites so I'm asking them how much is bolt from there home to westlands where I will stay what are BM willing to pay to meet a girl I'm not willing to pay more than 600 bobs one way to meet a girl a lot of girls say they don't used public transportation just uber or bolt so if they say its 1.5 k to come to westlands by uber I'm not interested in them any feedback.[/QUOTE]It's just BS. They pocket the money for Uber or Bolt and use Matatu. Very easy to deal with. I give you 3 k for massage whatever you spend on transport is your problem. Finish. Most of the chicas are slum dwellers happy to get some Ugali and Chapati for food. They just take you for a ride. Remember. The biggest bullshitters, liars and cheats on this planet are kenchics. Ask any local.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2728740]I am in Kenya now, elections are on 9, results published 7 days after.

Haven't seen anything abnormal up to now but I am not in Nairobi now.[/QUOTE]There are many different votes in these same elections. I remember reading that presidential votes, neither main candidate probably will not get more than 50 % in first round. So second round elections may come for president election? I may be wrong.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2725850]What's the big deal. I was in Sabina Joy a month ago. SOP after night falls. 2000 KES distributed between both my pockets and my left sock. Plus my 20 $ Nokia African Edition NON smart phone including torch light. In bad areas I carry my 20 $ tactical aluminum torch with serrated Aluminum edges. Hurts a lot. The music was bearable. Sweet bongo and gengeton tunes. Later Congolese. Looks sure. I was the only Muzungu in there but then again. I have a black heart. Kweli kabisa.

Mwalimu.

Who is roaming the Swahili coast.[/QUOTE]I have been to Kenya twice this year. Many times I am the only white man the room. No problem. I smile, bring good heart and I appreciate the people around me. Always a good time. Though, like an idiot, I had a hard time finding Sabina Joy. But, when I got there, It worked out well for me. Going back to Kenya in October.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2702231]While I have never been to SA, I experience Kenya girls to be honest, sweet, and less conniving than all the other monger places I have been to. The clubs are hot and tinder should guarantee a fun overnight visit if you have a good talk game and know how to entertain. Nairobi has sweeter girls, girl friendly experience, You can get the same in mombasa but I found quite a few more use to P4P. I have maintain friendship with quite few and have not sent any money. I believe the girls understand that foreigner most likely won't return so they don't put false hopes that you will be lifetime partner. They simply just enjoy the moment. This is what I observe.

.[/QUOTE]Please excuse my jumping in. I think our opinion about any place depends on the circumstances of our meeting other people, did we have a good time, and / or were we scammed by someone who just wants our money.

I have been to SE Asia, South America, Mexico, Europe the Caribean etc. I have had good and bad experiences in every continent / country.

When I was in Nairobi, I got lucky. And I had the best experience for me. Why? Because I know what I like, and I found what I liked best. Tall, thin, beautiful, smiling, sexy, happy, appreciative and always attentive to my needs. No drama. No fights. No games. If you know what you are looking for, there are gems all over the world. Some are hidden. Some will be sitting right next to you. I think the best way to know what you really like is to go to a lot of countries and see what gems you like best. If this doesn't work, at least you will travel the world and have fun trying.

My point. If you like sweet african women, you "might" like Kenya. I did.

[QUOTE=OakTownPaul;2730977]I have been to Kenya twice this year. Many times I am the only white man the room. No problem. I smile, bring good heart and I appreciate the people around me. Always a good time. Though, like an idiot, I had a hard time finding Sabina Joy. But, when I got there, It worked out well for me. Going back to Kenya in October.[/QUOTE]That's how I carry myself too. Friendliness goes a long way. Sometimes, when the senses tingle, I've learned to heed my personal alarms.

I'll go there again at the end of the month when I return to Kenya.

[QUOTE=Leblon;2729951]There are many different votes in these same elections. I remember reading that presidential votes, neither main candidate probably will not get more than 50 % in first round. So second round elections may come for president election? I may be wrong.[/QUOTE]What I can confirm is that today in Nairobi its calm. Results are expected for tomorrow.

But yesterday when passing narok by car we were advised that big troubles were in progress.

Finally when we came there the police was everywhere and everything was calm. But we saw many rocks along the road used to create barrages and also many broken glass on the road coming from the cars hitten by rocks or other tools.

Tension was present in the city, but the main road was calm with the police.

We'll see tomorrow. Result's seems very closed. 2nd turn? . Or troubles again.

Finally results where announced yesterday, Monday at 6 pm, Ruto candidate win by 50.49 percent, I am still in Nairobi, seems calm but I heard that one of my friend received a rock in the glasses of the car, the front glass was fully destroyed, this happen close to airport.

I have to go to train terminal today, close to airport. We'll see how it goes.

[QUOTE=ImpressiveWin;2692395]I went to UpTown Spa the other week and the lineup was incredible about 30 different girls all shapes and sizes. Full service on offer after the massage.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to figure out which uptown spa is the one that's open. Two of them show up on Google map. One on George padmore Road and the other on galana Road. TIA.

[QUOTE=Kaappo22;2535035]I returned home from a business trip to Kenya in the beginning of February, the whole experience was just incredible. The first morning after my arrival I went to get a local SIM for my pussy phone, snacks and condoms. Had trouble setting up Tinder so I installed Tagged instead. Of course I used the tricks I've learned from girls like grabbing a photo from online, setting my age 8 years younger than it really is and faking my name and nationality.[/QUOTE]Found this report by chance and thought "oh okay, maybe Kenya is The African country I've been looking for to become my dream journey destination.

Downloaded Tagged and set up to Kenya to look what kind of girls are there.

Fat girls. And more fat girls. And more. Apparently those who have a pretty face don't have to use Tagged.

Is there an African country which produces black or black&white-mixed girls with slim waist, beautiful breasts, normal (rather excercised than flabby) ass and facial features that would resemble those beauties that Hollywood has learned us to think as beauty?

[QUOTE=Desin;2737311]Found this report by chance and thought "oh okay, maybe Kenya is The African country I've been looking for to become my dream journey destination.

Downloaded Tagged and set up to Kenya to look what kind of girls are there.

Fat girls. And more fat girls. And more. Apparently those who have a pretty face don't have to use Tagged.

Is there an African country which produces black or black&white-mixed girls with slim waist, beautiful breasts, normal (rather excercised than flabby) ass and facial features that would resemble those beauties that Hollywood has learned us to think as beauty?[/QUOTE]I just used tantan and I found several beauties which were not fat with wide asses.

I can ensure you that there are some, or many, especially the turkane whit which I spent 1 week had really an incredible long slim body with big breast. A dream.

Another way is to come there, just go to big tree mombasa North coast and all girls there are slim, they know that fireigners don't like big asses so all of them are slim there.

[QUOTE=Desin;2737311]Found this report by chance and thought "oh okay, maybe Kenya is The African country I've been looking for to become my dream journey destination.

Downloaded Tagged and set up to Kenya to look what kind of girls are there.

Fat girls. And more fat girls. And more. Apparently those who have a pretty face don't have to use Tagged.

Is there an African country which produces black or black&white-mixed girls with slim waist, beautiful breasts, normal (rather excercised than flabby) ass and facial features that would resemble those beauties that Hollywood has learned us to think as beauty?[/QUOTE]Africans actually go crazy for fat girls and call those slender "girls for mzungu" that in fact abound in clubs frequented by Europeans like Big Tree and Casuarina. To understand what you can find, watch Miss Casuarina's elections on You Tube. I think there is what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=Desin;2737311]Found this report by chance and thought "oh okay, maybe Kenya is The African country I've been looking for to become my dream journey destination.

Downloaded Tagged and set up to Kenya to look what kind of girls are there.

Fat girls. And more fat girls. And more. Apparently those who have a pretty face don't have to use Tagged.

Is there an African country which produces black or black&white-mixed girls with slim waist, beautiful breasts, normal (rather excercised than flabby) ass and facial features that would resemble those beauties that Hollywood has learned us to think as beauty?[/QUOTE]Of course your mileage may vary. I haven't used Tagged in a while, so not sure how the current situation is. But it's a number's game anywhere in Africa. When there's millions of girls in a country willing to fuck you there's something for everyone. The app of choice depends on the country and day. Maybe Tinder works better than Tagged, maybe you should just approach the hot looking girls that you meet while in your destination.

As for me, haven't searched for a while in Kenya. When I go over every couple of months I always meet with the girl from the post you referred to. She's damn great and just keeps going wilder every time. She's up for anything and comes up with dirty fantasies of her own. In addition to the great fucking in private and public she sometimes asks to be cuffed, tied, leashed, whipped, spanked and so on. Why not, my dick doesn't oppose. Occasionally she invites her friends over for threesomes. The only thing better than a pretty girl sucking your dick is two pretty girls sucking your dick.

As you can see from the pics, the body is great. Luckily her face is even better, would shine like a star even in Hollywood.

Hi fellas,

Long time lurker on here. Hitting Nairobi in 12 days.

Please someone tell me the quoted 25 kes by an admittedly hoot young thing is not the norm in Nairobi.

Because that's not sustainable in the slightest.

I am hoping for 3 k-5 k kes now that's understandable.

[QUOTE=Desin;2737311]Found this report by chance and thought "oh okay, maybe Kenya is The African country I've been looking for to become my dream journey destination.

Downloaded Tagged and set up to Kenya to look what kind of girls are there.

Fat girls. And more fat girls. And more. Apparently those who have a pretty face don't have to use Tagged.

Is there an African country which produces black or black&white-mixed girls with slim waist, beautiful breasts, normal (rather excercised than flabby) ass and facial features that would resemble those beauties that Hollywood has learned us to think as beauty?[/QUOTE]Tinder is the app you want in Kenya, but you won't really find any mixed girls.

If you want mixed African women, you need to go to Cape Town SA or go to west Africa in places like Cape Verde. If you are stuck on east africa, you can find light skinned mixed with Arab in places like yemen, Ethiopia, somaliland, or Djibouti. Anywhere that's a former french colony should run you into some mixed african girls, but usually they are mixed because they come from a european parent and thus not of the social class to need to be out selling front.

You do not see many fat girls in Kenya.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2738248]You do not see many fat girls in Kenya.[/QUOTE]You must be blind.

Dear friends, is there any place to visit for inside / nearby Nairobi Airport?

[QUOTE=SeanBenz;2738199]Hi fellas,

Long time lurker on here. Hitting Nairobi in 12 days.

Please someone tell me the quoted 25 kes by an admittedly hoot young thing is not the norm in Nairobi.

Because that's not sustainable in the slightest.

I am hoping for 3 k-5 k kes now that's understandable.[/QUOTE]It's not the norm for anywhere in Kenya, or the equivalent anywhere in Africa -- unless she's a *true* Professional, like Instagram thot level. Even then, tell her to show you her IG page! LOL.

Just negotiate her downward. African culture is all about negotiating.

Here's a game (strategy) to try: if you haven't met her in-person, don't negotiate yet; just tell her "let's meet" for drinks / lunch / dinner / etc "and we'll discuss then". This way, you get to see if the goods are still any good.

(Do NOT pick an expensive place to meet. Like some stupid foreigners do, even on this site. You haven't gauged yet if she's worth a cup of coffee, lolol).

If she refuses or gives excuses why she can't (won't), drop her like a hot piece of siht that she is. She's wasting your time.

If you do meet, if you like what you see, start the 'bargaining' as Kenyans say. You have to gauge on what you see: e. G. If she's really a 6 or 7, start your haggling at maybe 3 K; upper 7-8, 4 K to 6 K; etc etc. It's up to you to judge what she's worth to ya.

It's all a gamble, but that's part of the fun & excitement, heh.

Be warned though-- some of the most beautiful women in the non-Western world are some of the worse lays in the world. It's shocking how terrible they are at pleasuring a man. Kenya is no exception.

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2738401]It's not the norm for anywhere in Kenya, or the equivalent anywhere in Africa -- unless she's a *true* Professional, like Instagram thot level. Even then, tell her to show you her IG page! LOL.

Just negotiate her downward. African culture is all about negotiating.

Here's a game (strategy) to try: if you haven't met her in-person, don't negotiate yet; just tell her "let's meet" for drinks / lunch / dinner / etc "and we'll discuss then". This way, you get to see if the goods are still any good.

(Do NOT pick an expensive place to meet. Like some stupid foreigners do, even on this site. You haven't gauged yet if she's worth a cup of coffee, lolol).

If she refuses or gives excuses why she can't (won't), drop her like a hot piece of siht that she is. She's wasting your time.

If you do meet, if you like what you see, start the 'bargaining' as Kenyans say. You have to gauge on what you see: e. G. If she's really a 6 or 7, start your haggling at maybe 3 K; upper 7-8, 4 K to 6 K; etc etc. It's up to you to judge what she's worth to ya.

It's all a gamble, but that's part of the fun & excitement, heh.

Be warned though-- some of the most beautiful women in the non-Western world are some of the worse lays in the world. It's shocking how terrible they are at pleasuring a man. Kenya is no exception.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate.

My overzealous ass is still in the west and have Tinder set to Nairobi already.

Will calm down a little. Only there for a couple of weeks. So my time there is limited.

[QUOTE=PoppStar;2738364]Dear friends, is there any place to visit for inside / nearby Nairobi Airport?[/QUOTE]If I well recall you might see some wild animals in the vicinity.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2738248]You do not see many fat girls in Kenya.[/QUOTE]You see a variety, like any other country.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2738884]You see a variety, like any other country.[/QUOTE]I am big time into BBWs. Which country in Africa would be the best for that?

Apart from Tinder, where are the best spots to pick up in Nairobi? I presume Boss Den (formerly Black Diamond) is a spot to try and other places like Brew Bistro are good spots but they have a mix of those on the game and those just enjoying a night out?

[QUOTE=MintyPolo;2739012]Apart from Tinder, where are the best spots to pick up in Nairobi? I presume Boss Den (formerly Black Diamond) is a spot to try and other places like Brew Bistro are good spots but they have a mix of those on the game and those just enjoying a night out?[/QUOTE]In Westlands also K1 and havana where WG go to hang out You can find some on the street corner close to k1 also can find a few girls on Westlands road some girls hang out on the street. If you have Game meet a college or normal girl out with her friends in all the clubs see if you can score that way so many clubs so many girls.

Hey guys,

Long time Bangkok veteran here and going to Nairobi for the first time.

Any kind soul mind just give a few quick answers to these:

- Are the hotels generally accepting of guests? Or do I need to email a bunch and ask them before I go? Is there a list compiled somewhere?

- Which areas should I live in? I'm only looking for 4/5 star hotels where I can bring the girl up to my room. Price is no issue. And preferably somewhere where I can meet girls on the street as well. And having lots of restaurants and maybe shopping nearby would be nice as well.

[QUOTE=Farcondee;2739680]Hey guys,

Long time Bangkok veteran here and going to Nairobi for the first time.

Any kind soul mind just give a few quick answers to these:

- Are the hotels generally accepting of guests? Or do I need to email a bunch and ask them before I go? Is there a list compiled somewhere?

- Which areas should I live in? I'm only looking for 4/5 star hotels where I can bring the girl up to my room. Price is no issue. And preferably somewhere where I can meet girls on the street as well. And having lots of restaurants and maybe shopping nearby would be nice as well.[/QUOTE]I guess if it is girl friendly then in town or the cbd as locals call it you could stay at Sarova Stanley, email to get the rules on GF.

Ibis or another hotel in Westlands might be an idea too.

In Cbd you have people traffic all day, approach who you like with a s ile and Hello, and most will respond. Same ins Westlands as you have 2 largish shopping malls, Shopping malls are good for meeting ladies.

Do not expect anything like Bkk.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2739830]I guess if it is girl friendly then in town or the cbd as locals call it you could stay at Sarova Stanley, email to get the rules on GF.

Ibis or another hotel in Westlands might be an idea too.

In Cbd you have people traffic all day, approach who you like with a s ile and Hello, and most will respond. Same ins Westlands as you have 2 largish shopping malls, Shopping malls are good for meeting ladies.

Do not expect anything like Bkk.[/QUOTE]I stayed in Lotos Inn Suites located in Westland, very good hotel, not very expensive, but I can't confirm for bringing girls as I had mine with me.

Anyway you can ask them what is their guest policy, and for restaurants, shops, you can use Bolt and get a car in 5 minutes to go everywhere.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2739830]

In Cbd you have people traffic all day, approach who you like with a smile and Hello, and most will respond.

[/QUOTE]Friendly persons respond to a smile. Some accept invitations. But to get them naked might be a long way and can't be taken for granted at all.
First time visitors should not have too optmistic expectations and think the whole CBD is more or less a brothel.

Hi everyone,

I appreciate all the contributors to this forum. I've done a search for massage parlors and have seen all your great reports of locations further out from the city center. I am making my 2nd trip to Nairobi early next year. On a prior trip in 2017 I had a a fairly good (except the condom broke) experience at the Massage Parlor on the 5th floor of Dev Towers. Once again I have a very limited window of opportunity on this next trip and I was wondering if anyone knows if that parlor is still open, or if there are any other parlors with Full Service extras in the city market area?

Thanks for any guidance you can provide.

[QUOTE=PierreSi;2745794]Hi everyone,

I appreciate all the contributors to this forum. I've done a search for massage parlors and have seen all your great reports of locations further out from the city center. I am making my 2nd trip to Nairobi early next year. On a prior trip in 2017 I had a a fairly good (except the condom broke) experience at the Massage Parlor on the 5th floor of Dev Towers. Once again I have a very limited window of opportunity on this next trip and I was wondering if anyone knows if that parlor is still open, or if there are any other parlors with Full Service extras in the city market area?

Thanks for any guidance you can provide.[/QUOTE]So I'll answer at least part of my own question, in the hope it's useful to others as well. I've found another site with 2 recommendations in that area. City Spa and Crystal Spa. Based on the other poster's comments, they favored Crystal Spa. Still not sure if the Dev Towers spot is open, but I will likely try Crystal Spa on my visit and will endeavor to post a report. Any additional advice would be appreciated.

Crystal Spa, Crystal spa is on fourth floor of Market Mansion house. Biashara Street, Market Mansion, Suite 401.

City Spa is on the first floor of Jubilee house on Muhindi mbingu street opposite jevanjee gardens.

Never go above 3 k; they will accept!! I've been here for the last 5 months (with visa extension) and I've never gone above 3 K, times are hard in Kenya and girls are feeling it, so talk of 5 k, 6, 7 K is crap, hold the line!!

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2738401]It's not the norm for anywhere in Kenya, or the equivalent anywhere in Africa -- unless she's a *true* Professional, like Instagram thot level. Even then, tell her to show you her IG page! LOL.

Just negotiate her downward. African culture is all about negotiating.

Here's a game (strategy) to try: if you haven't met her in-person, don't negotiate yet; just tell her "let's meet" for drinks / lunch / dinner / etc "and we'll discuss then". This way, you get to see if the goods are still any good.

(Do NOT pick an expensive place to meet. Like some stupid foreigners do, even on this site. You haven't gauged yet if she's worth a cup of coffee, lolol).

If she refuses or gives excuses why she can't (won't), drop her like a hot piece of siht that she is. She's wasting your time.

If you do meet, if you like what you see, start the 'bargaining' as Kenyans say. You have to gauge on what you see: e. G. If she's really a 6 or 7, start your haggling at maybe 3 K; upper 7-8, 4 K to 6 K; etc etc. It's up to you to judge what she's worth to ya.

It's all a gamble, but that's part of the fun & excitement, heh.

Be warned though-- some of the most beautiful women in the non-Western world are some of the worse lays in the world. It's shocking how terrible they are at pleasuring a man. Kenya is no exception.[/QUOTE]

PierreSi.

Go to the small road just behind TomMoya Street / Robert Ngala St There is a massage sign and during the day sometimes ladies are in front of the shop to look for customers.

To find the road you can also put in on google maps 'Universal Reliance Emporium Ltd' which is on the same road.

A bit outside the center there are numerous parlors in Hurlingham and Westlands.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2746371]PierreSi.

A bit outside the center there are numerous parlors in Hurlingham and Westlands.[/QUOTE]And what are prices in these MP, mainly Westland, I tried one last time but was surprised with quite high prices. Starting prices were above 3 k for just massage. I didn't ask for additional services.

Is that normal starting prices in this area?

In Mombasa, big Tree it was 1 k for 1 HR and many things were possible but only the basic massage was so great.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2746458]And what are prices in these MP, mainly Westland, I tried one last time but was surprised with quite high prices. Starting prices were above 3 k for just massage. I didn't ask for additional services.

Is that normal starting prices in this area?

In Mombasa, big Tree it was 1 k for 1 HR and many things were possible but only the basic massage was so great.[/QUOTE]Yes that are roughly the prices they ask for. At least by those who have a badge for massage.

Brother Tradewinds, welcome back!

[QUOTE=Tradewinds;2746274]Never go above 3 k; they will accept!! I've been here for the last 5 months (with visa extension) and I've never gone above 3 K, times are hard in Kenya and girls are feeling it, so talk of 5 k, 6, 7 K is crap, hold the line!![/QUOTE]Brother Tradewinds, I don't disagree with you, if it's a normal day!! But for the new-recruit mongerers, we can't advise them to be hardnose at this early stage of their education, got to give them leeway to feel out the market.

Myself I stay between 3-4 K, and my standard quality of lady is btwn 7's and 8's. When I've taken 6's, they were fully happy with 3 K (and typically provided better service, thus my warning at the end).

There were very few times where I increased exactly to 5 K, and those were when I got ladies with eyepopping luscious tits. I'm a Tits Man. You already know in Kenya, the ladies have asses 'Made in Heaven', but it's hard to get good firm totties. During those moments, my regular brain gets stunned to see them lovelies, my other head takes over the decision-making, so a few extra KshS it is!!

The only way I'ld go 8 K or above is if she's truly an IG thot lololol! And I'm getting pics and maybe a video as proof I fcuked her.

The highest I've ever really paid was 7 K: was few years ago, at-then Black Diamond, on a weekday night, during July so a bit cold in the evening. Obviously a slow night, nothing good pops into my radar. Then in comes an interesting what-I-thought was a 6 or 7, looks around, sees me, and gives me that look we all know, like when the doghound senses the prey. She zeros-in directly to me.

As she approached I could see somewhat under her long coat, her body seemed averagely nice, not chubby, but not overly curvaceous like I like. When she sat down, I could see her face was an easy 7. To this day, I'm not sure she was Kenyan. Her facial features, although African, had a certain something about them.

What really attracted me was her voice: not only was her English perfect, still with that 'African' flow, but there was a tinge to it that proved she was either an actual professional business person or very well-educated. Maybe some of you have met her too?? During our early chatting I was more interested in her background, than her body. But just for a short time!

Soon, naturally and smoothly, *she* started the negotiating. Ahh-ha, so she was certainly a Professional in *that* way!

She started at 10 K. Of course, as all the BD pros do. I countered with my 3-4 K range. Probably because it was a slow night, I didn't plan to stick around any later, her voice was enticing, and peeks at the cleavage showed she wasn't flat-chested, we agreed to 7 K.

When we got back to my flat I was sure she was going to go right into business and keep it that way, as pros do. Surprisingly she was nicely GFE. Since it was cold, of course no heaters in the place, she still had on her coat while we're watching a movie. When I innocently, ahem, suggested we get comfortable and warm under a duvet, she knew the score: she took off her coat and undressed -- SHAZAM, she had the body of easily an 8! Great curvy firm tits, flat stomach, some nice hips and butt even though I wouldn't call her curvy. Could she be a model or real entertainment worker??

Seeing all that goodness, 7 K seemed a good deal!

And it was-- two sessions that night, and one more in the morning, she didn't push for more money or give any kind of aggro, and quickly departed. We never exchanged numbers, I don't remember her name, and I never saw her again the few times I went back to Black Diamond.

{ahhh, Kenya memories. Can't wait to get back there}.

All that to say - *There are Exceptions!

I am going for the first time in Kenya in December. I tried to gather as much information from this forum but the answers are mixed and in various posts, it kind of makes my brain a mush.

I used to badoo to meet women, some just want to be friends, some for hook ups, some for both, and those that do want hook ups ask from 20 dollars to 250 and looks have nothing to do with what they charge.

Now, I also want to meet women once I am at Nairobi, I prefer to meet a street girls then get a professional one and I wish I made my point understood. I land at Nairobi, what do I do next? I read that women will come to you, some that you have to talk to them, some that they dress seductive, some that they dress normally. Some say they won't come to you, some that you can meet them in the clubs, some at the malls etc. So either all are true or one cancels the others.

Please help me about, I need your experience and also an app except badoo.

Thank you so much.

Hello,

I'll be on a business trip in Nairobi so I'll have limited time during the day for some action. I usually like MP (massage parlours) where extra BJ FS can be had, so I wonder if there are some well known ones where I can visit with high chances of satisfaction?

Alternatively, any brothel for day shags without all the hassle of meeting and taking the girl back to hotel etc. ?

I read many pages of this forum but I am still confused on the good MP, without having to scout paper newspapers!

Thanks.

I am planning now for a trip around some EAfrica countries after a long break due to Covid.

I like to get numbers & meeting arranged in advance and so I invested in a month of Tinder.

I advise my exact intentions up front and the response is like 90% positive.

(and I am not a young stud).

Here are some pics of what I have lined up.

I also like to check out MPs. - which google maps seems to provide contacts.

I will report here and in other cities to provide all the details.

Cheers.

G.

The massage places in town which I mentioned before are still there namely at Mfangano Road. One sees signboards 'Barber shop' and below in smaller letters 'Full body massage'. So this is not unofficial stuff.

Sometimes girls promote in front of the shops. They name 2K for one hour.

[QUOTE=Gesheft;2751458]I am planning now for a trip around some EAfrica countries after a long break due to Covid.

I like to get numbers & meeting arranged in advance and so I invested in a month of Tinder...

G.[/QUOTE]I would be surprised if even one looked like that when you meet.

[QUOTE=Gesheft;2751458]I am planning now for a trip around some EAfrica countries after a long break due to Covid.

I like to get numbers & meeting arranged in advance and so I invested in a month of Tinder.

I advise my exact intentions up front and the response is like 90% positive.

(and I am not a young stud).

Here are some pics of what I have lined up.

I also like to check out MPs. - which google maps seems to provide contacts.

I will report here and in other cities to provide all the details.

Cheers.

G.[/QUOTE]Hi Gesheft,

Cool, with the 4th one I'm also in contact. Though I'm not 100% sure if I will meet her cause too many options, too less time.

Hello,

In the Nairobi thread here on ISG there's not too much chatting in the last 6 months so I am afraid that info could be outdated and things changed due to Covid.

I am looking to get an hotel in Westland or Kilimani (this latter preferred as there are more massage parlors for what I see compared to Westland), with requirements:

1. Guest friendly with no hassle (ex. No problem in bringing in different girls each day, or multiple on the same day!

2. Price range daily $20-40 (not looking for luxury, just a clean room with double bed).

Even though I occasionally go to bars, I am more like a day animal (like Eddy) so I prefer to be in walking areas like Westland or Kilimani. Which one would you recommend and why? I read that sleeping in Kilimani needs a lot of taxi rides so a bit concern on this choice.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Martin00;2755921]2. Price range daily $20-40 (not looking for luxury, just a clean room with double bed).[/QUOTE]The good ole days of cheap hotels in those areas are over, for 10 years now, since the Chinese came in and built up their properties. Even not-so-bad Gracie / Grace Hotel behind Yaya is 90 USD: [URL]https://www.gracehouseresort.com/pages/rates/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Martin00;2755921]I prefer to be in walking areas like Westland or Kilimani. Which one would you recommend and why? I read that sleeping in Kilimani needs a lot of taxi rides so a bit concern on this choice.[/QUOTE]If you want walkable massage parlors, and close-by streetwalkers, Kilimani is the better option.

(I never stayed at any of these, so you can do us all a favor. If you stay at any, come back and report the actual details of them.).

Some place called Fahari Palm, located on the east side of Ring Rd, is supposedly 41 USD: [URL]https://www.faharipalm.com/[/URL] - and is walking distance of at least one of the massage parlors known for happy-endings.

Hays Suites Hotel, located on the west side, Wood Avenue, is apparently 34-36 USD. As I mentioned in a previous post (LESS than 6 months ago, ahem), I saw some SWs working that strip.

If you're willing to try Airbnb or [URL]Booking.com[/URL], I know for a fact a place walkable to Yaya, 10 mins tops, is the Tropical Towers apartment building, also on Wood Ave: [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/9wJ6rdAMHnaksnRm8[/URL].

Check out the Abb listings for two places in there - 2611814: $33 - 1 BR // 13194695: $38 - 2 BR. (Booking from the management office is way more expensive. That's why I initially rejected it until I found the Abb listings.)

No taxis / Bolts needed for any of these spots.

[QUOTE=Martin00;2755921]In the Nairobi thread here on ISG there's not too much chatting in the last 6 months...[/QUOTE]You're joking, right?

Report from the field, two nice massage parlors in Westfield located in the same first floor of same building, internal count at 15 Westlands Rd just in front of Grafins College. Enter the gate and walk 50 meters you'll see the usual SPA signs indicating a door, walk up 1 floor and two doors takes you to two different massage places. Basic massage 3 k or 5 k including sex. Possible also 2 times sex (without massage) for 5 k. Nice selection of ladies all sizes and shapes! All rooms have shower. I enjoyed both places.

Tried Uptown Massage Spa Kilimani and good selection of ladies all shapes, beware they have a notice on November 1st they'll move to another location nearby in Kilimani. I asked for double shot with a petite lady and they quoted me 6 k and went ahead with it! Recommended for quick release or massage, they are open 24 h. Call for the new location after November 1st.

Planning on a trip to Thailand next January. After a couple weeks there, planning on visiting Kenya for a week in February. I really don't care about sightseeing or anything touristy- my only agenda is sleeping with curvaceous beauties. With that in mind, would I be better served staying in Nairobi for the week or should I make the trek down to Mombasa as well?

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2758447]Planning on a trip to Thailand next January. After a couple weeks there, planning on visiting Kenya for a week in February. I really don't care about sightseeing or anything touristy- my only agenda is sleeping with curvaceous beauties. With that in mind, would I be better served staying in Nairobi for the week or should I make the trek down to Mombasa as well?[/QUOTE]Problem is traffic jams. You travel in Nairobi to airport, you spend time in traffic jam, or you go to airport early. You fly to Mombasa, then long time from airport to your hotel which is probably in Bamburi beach or Nyali or maybe Mwtapa.

You go back to Nairobi, you need to go Mombasa airport, traffic jam possibly, so you have to go early. Then in Nairobi, you are in traffic jam when you go to hotel.

Perhaps my information of Nairobi traffic jams is outdated, and this new road to airport is working well. But still, you spend two days of your week for this travelling to Mombasa and back. I would not do it myself. I used to visit Nairobi in my long Mombasa trips, to spend day or two in Nairobi nigt life. But I gave up because I spend too much time sitting in a car, especially in Nairobi.

Nairobi is more expensive than Mombasa, especially girls, and there is no ocean, but night life there is good and more action than in Mombasa. Maybe.

Traffic in Nbi has improved with the new road.

Also, when I fly to Nbi from Msa or vice versa I always get a late evening flight so you can miss the traffic in both. I have never taken more than 30 mins to get to or from an airport in Kenya from Central Nbi or Bamburi.

Greetings to all.

Great to be back in NBO since before Covid.

Nairobi is still IMHO the best for mongering.

Too many women so little time. I only had 5 days.

I had many lined up from Tinder.

1st was a mature lady (40+) - who was what I needed who hadn't been laid in years. She was just what I needed.

2nd. Massage place in CBD.

Note. That the Tubham Road building has gone.

There is a new walk in spa in the parallel road. Biashara Street. Market Mansion building (5th floor I think).

Or you can book via a whatsap agency.

I paid Ksh5 k for full service, a good selection of 10-12 girls, no clock watching. Good value.

Note. Walk in without the whatsap agency might be cheaper. Like Ksh 4 k.

I went with Nia (phone number on record) - gave pretty good full service.

3rd. Girl that was alone in the hotel bar at closing time. Ksh 4 k. Did for me just what I needed without any be / s.

So. No complaints & looking forward to next visit!

G.

[QUOTE=Gesheft;2759119]Greetings to all.
1st was a mature lady (40+) - who was what I needed who hadn't been laid in years. She was just what I needed.
I paid Ksh5 k for full service, a good selection of 10-12 girls, no clock watching. Good value..[/QUOTE]Any number for the MILF? Be a good change from the 20's girls.

5 k got what exactly?

Asante.

[QUOTE=Martin00;2756578]Report from the field, two nice massage parlors in Westfield located in the same first floor of same building, internal count at 15 Westlands Rd just in front of Grafins College. Enter the gate and walk 50 meters you'll see the usual SPA signs indicating a door, walk up 1 floor and two doors takes you to two different massage places. Basic massage 3 k or 5 k including sex. Possible also 2 times sex (without massage) for 5 k. Nice selection of ladies all sizes and shapes! All rooms have shower. I enjoyed both places.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for the information. Tried one of those spas (Pucolin Spa) and had a great session with a real spinner named Clare. Highly recommended. Costs in line with what you report. Rooms were clean. Was introduced to around 6 or 7 girls who were all quite reasonable.

Hello collegues, how was the massage at Pucolin from the therapeutic aspect?

[QUOTE=Gesheft;2751458]I am planning now for a trip around some EAfrica countries after a long break due to Covid.

I like to get numbers & meeting arranged in advance and so I invested in a month of Tinder.

I advise my exact intentions up front and the response is like 90% positive.

(and I am not a young stud).

Here are some pics of what I have lined up.

I also like to check out MPs. - which google maps seems to provide contacts.

I will report here and in other cities to provide all the details.

Cheers.

G.[/QUOTE]LMAO. You duncess never learn, you go to some website pick supermodel lookalikes who are using fake photos and expect to fyck them on arrival, because tbey are in your mind poor and desperate girls who need a white man to seave them, then you want to oay just $20?

I can assure you those are fake picture being used, but you know what they say a fool and his money are soon parted.

Here are some pics of what I have lined up.

I also like to check out MPs. - which google maps seems to provide contacts.

I will report here and in other cities to provide all the details.

Cheers.

LMAO another gullible muzungu seduced by fake profiles on sites and the dream of fucking every stunning girl he meets in Africa.

You have "lined them up" to be £ucked for $5 a night and some cheap $store perfumes?

Trust me you will never met these girls, do a reverse image search and see what you come up with.

If these girls are real, they would be taken and kept by the local politicians who can spend $5,000 a month on his harem, not whoring on fuck sites for $20.

A videocall in advance is the way to go.

Trying out Tinder since some weeks I met a few 19-25 stunners who were the person from the pics. But they wanted a muzungu for a relationship and longterm promotion. Innocent shy ones did not come to my place. So they cost me at least a milkshake at Java. They would readily consume more.

The more experienced ones ask for Ubermoney in advance which I am not ready to give. When I told one to use a matatu she laughed at me.

So for me it is to early to give my final verdict on Tinder. But is not a means to find stunners for 20 USD fun and who do not bother you further.

[QUOTE=Azeb411;2761576]LMAO. You duncess never learn, you go to some website pick supermodel lookalikes who are using fake photos and expect to fyck them on arrival, because tbey are in your mind poor and desperate girls who need a white man to seave them, then you want to oay just $20?

I can assure you those are fake picture being used, but you know what they say a fool and his money are soon parted.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't have been as harsh, but. Yeah, got to agree. Those pics are obviously fakes. Isn't the big-tit-chik known on OF as (something) theGreat??

In fairness, DarrenGap already pointed this out, first,.

And Brother Gesheft is an old-hat mongerer, he should know better to fall for such catfishing.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2761834]A videocall in advance is the way to go.

Trying out Tinder since some weeks I met a few 19-25 stunners who were the person from the pics. But they wanted a muzungu for a relationship and longterm promotion. Innocent shy ones did not come to my place. So they cost me at least a milkshake at Java. They would readily consume more.

The more experienced ones ask for Ubermoney in advance which I am not ready to give. When I told one to use a matatu she laughed at me.

So for me it is to early to give my final verdict on Tinder. But is not a means to find stunners for 20 USD fun and who do not bother you further.[/QUOTE]Agreed. 100%.

Point is, Tinder & Whatsapp cuts down on the bullsiht that many of these girls play, especially the catfishing. So you actually proved the tools work!

(1) As you discovered, the biatches that want Uber / Bolt fare - **upfront** -- yeah, they can go fcuk themselves. Laugh at that, chica! She saved you from her later nonsense. (They are so greedy, they didn't even negotiate to have the fare paid for when she arrives.) BYE! I'll spend that money on someone who's not a joker.

(2) Girls who are at least honest upfront about wanting friendship "first", then straight to a "relationship" (what they really mean is "Marriage" - they really think a White Saviour is going to rescue them). Those ladies, I actually respect. I let them down easy, tell them that's not what I'm interested in. Then I move on to prospects who know the score.

Agreed-- if the cost of meeting such ladies is a milkshake or a cup of Java House (and give them another chance to earn some money -- they can wait for their "Soulmate" another day), then it's not a total loss.

As for the Price to Pay-to-Play, to each his own. If someone wants cheap pussy, let them go to eg Sabina Joy. Have fun! Not ME! But also, I ain't paying 10K or more either. Which we know some members on here have been doing, even if they don't admit it.

I want to book a flight with a 15 h stopover in Nairobi. Is there any way to go to a hotel to get a night sleep? I will not have a visa as my final destination is outside Kenya.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2762121]I want to book a flight with a 15 h stopover in Nairobi. Is there any way to go to a hotel to get a night sleep? I will not have a visa as my final destination is outside Kenya.[/QUOTE]Getting an e-visa is not a big issue but going to town, depending on the time, can take a chunk of your transit time. There should be nearby hotel in a range of a couple of km from the airport precinct. Spending the time in the airport is a no-go, both air and land side. Do you really need that route?

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2762104]I wouldn't have been as harsh, but. Yeah, got to agree. Those pics are obviously fakes. Isn't the big-tit-chik known on OF as (something) theGreat??

In fairness, DarrenGap already pointed this out, first,.

And Brother Gesheft is an old-hat mongerer, he should know better to fall for such catfishing.[/QUOTE]Thanks pal. Indeed I have been there and done that since the 90's in this part of the world.

Tinder is fun to pre-screen and the pics I posted were really to show what is being used these days.

Ie. Not too many pics are posted here these days. So I wanted to liven up the forum with some illustrations.

FYI Those that I did meet I checked out in video calls in advance.

G.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2761092]Hello collegues, how was the massage at Pucolin from the therapeutic aspect?[/QUOTE]It was actually quite good. Offered level of massage chose medium. Not really RMT but very receptive to suggestions.

I am considering a trip to African, and as you can see from my name, I'm into larger ladies. I've read some of the reports / posts in the Kenya section, and they're encouraging, but I was wondering if say, Nigeria or Ghana might be better. I AM NOT into skinny / petite girls.

[QUOTE=ChipBbw;2770994]I am considering a trip to African, and as you can see from my name, I'm into larger ladies. I've read some of the reports / posts in the Kenya section, and they're encouraging, but I was wondering if say, Nigeria or Ghana might be better. I am not into skinny / petite girls.[/QUOTE]You do see many overweight people in east Africa but that is not to say they are not there. I have never been to west Africa but they do tend to be bigger people that side of the continent.

[QUOTE=ChipBbw;2770994]I am considering a trip to African, and as you can see from my name, I'm into larger ladies. I've read some of the reports / posts in the Kenya section, and they're encouraging, but I was wondering if say, Nigeria or Ghana might be better. I AM NOT into skinny / petite girls.[/QUOTE]I don't understand what your name means. Bb means big bottom? So is there big bottom ladies in Africa? You can safely go to any black African country, majority of the women has big bottom. Skinny / petite ladies are a minority. Maybe Somalia and South Sudan not, but you should not go to either countries anyway, too dangerous.

In Kenya, if you go to place where musungus meaning us white people go, you can get wrong impression. In Mombasa, all the skinny / petite girls go to these places because they know that we musungus like slim girls, most of us. African men like mostly big girls, slim girls are not considered as pretty. Luckily we musungus are here to like them.

Kenya / Nigeria / Ghana, consider other variables like costs and so on, you don't have to worry about finding large ladies, they are everywhere. It is us slim lady lovers who have more problems finding girls in Africa.

[QUOTE=ChipBbw;2770994]I am considering a trip to African, and as you can see from my name, I'm into larger ladies. I've read some of the reports / posts in the Kenya section, and they're encouraging, but I was wondering if say, Nigeria or Ghana might be better. I AM NOT into skinny / petite girls.[/QUOTE]North, East, South, West, it doesn't matter where you go on Subsaharan Africa, being called a fat woman is a compliment. African men generally want BBW with enormous asses. They don't even look at her face. No country is better than another.

[QUOTE=ChipBbw;2770994]I am considering a trip to African, and as you can see from my name, I'm into larger ladies. I've read some of the reports / posts in the Kenya section, and they're encouraging, but I was wondering if say, Nigeria or Ghana might be better. I AM NOT into skinny / petite girls.[/QUOTE]A few pointers. While African men do tend to prefer thicker women, it's a region by region thing. The slim, pretty look with modest curves (slim thick) is always a winner. All this "If she has a big ass then African men" will jump to her is an exaggeration.

My main advice, if you like thick, curvy women then South Africa will be your best bet. Ghana is good too, but pound for pound South Africa is the best and easiest to navigate.

If I were you, I'd focus on.

South Africa

Uganda.

Kenya.

Ghana.

Those will be be your three key countries with South Africa taking the cake by quite some distance.

EDIT: Take a look through thread of different SA women on social media. These are the types of women you're looking for and SA has em in spades.

Hi,

Does anyone know of any nice / upscale guest friendly hotel in Westland? By nice I mean preferably 5 or 4 star hotel. Price is not really an issue. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=ChipBbw;2770994]I am considering a trip to African, and as you can see from my name, I'm into larger ladies. I've read some of the reports / posts in the Kenya section, and they're encouraging, but I was wondering if say, Nigeria or Ghana might be better. I AM NOT into skinny / petite girls.[/QUOTE]I've been doing myself some research on this topic (mature black BBW women) and I think Ghana is your best choice. Nevertheless, my country of choice would be Ivory Coast, there is even a term for these women (apoutchou).

SA is very far away from me (I'm based in Belgium) and I think women there have big assets but they are rather ugly. I find Western African women far more attractive.

Enjoy your trip. BBWs are a lot of fun.

[QUOTE=BlackbbwLover;2775352]I've been doing myself some research on this topic (mature black BBW women) and I think Ghana is your best choice. Nevertheless, my country of choice would be Ivory Coast, there is even a term for these women (apoutchou).

SA is very far away from me (I'm based in Belgium) and I think women there have big assets but they are rather ugly. I find Western African women far more attractive.

Enjoy your trip. BBWs are a lot of fun.[/QUOTE]I've been to Kenya numerous times, and have noticed that BBW's are in abundance. Personally, I'm more into the slim spinner types, but see the BBWs everywhere. I get messages from them all the time on Tinder.

[QUOTE=BlackbbwLover;2775352]I think Ghana is your best choice.
[/QUOTE]I was thinking about Ghana, but it's not visa free.

[QUOTE=BlackbbwLover;2775352]
Nevertheless, my country of choice would be Ivory Coast,
[/QUOTE]Have you been there? Are you speaking from personal experience?

[QUOTE=BlackbbwLover;2775352]
SA is very far away from me (I'm based in Belgium) and I think women there have big assets but they are rather ugly.
[/QUOTE]I'm sure not all of them!

[QUOTE=BlackbbwLover;2775352]
I find Western African women far more attractive.
[/QUOTE]So do I, and I'll certainly consider your recommendation. Thanks.

I am not being paid anything to promote this book. I just am a huge fan of this book and sharing it with fellow hobbyists.

Forum senior member at smallbuns has written a second book on his Eat. Fuck. Love series. This book details his adventures in Kenya and Tanzania over trips that spanned 7 years in vivid details. He has shared several naughty episodes with girls, in both urban and rural settings. Like skinny-dipping in lakes and ponds, with girls taking it for granted that he will be fucking them eventually, even leading him towards it. There are stories or like aunts and sisters (and brothers!) offering him to meet the girls, in one case a brother actually patiently waits outside the house so smallbuns can finish fucking the sister!

He recounts experience of fucking students and teachers in a vocational college, and picking up girls in crowded minibuses and even gas stations! On one occasion he shares a bus full of chickens and farm animals, befriends his fellow passenger, and fucks her as soon as they disembark.

He details sceneries of the African safari life, of being a vegetarian, and the cultural differences.

Highly recommend this book! Its available at [URL]https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Love-Enlightening-Epiphanies-Savannah-ebook/dp/B0BQ53CKVN/[/URL] for just $5 for the ebook.

[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;2782047]I am not being paid anything to promote this book. I just am a huge fan of this book and sharing it with fellow hobbyists.

Forum senior member at smallbuns has written a second book on his Eat. Fuck. Love series. This book details his adventures in Kenya and Tanzania over trips that spanned 7 years in vivid details. He has shared several naughty episodes with girls, in both urban and rural settings. Like skinny-dipping in lakes and ponds, with girls taking it for granted that he will be fucking them eventually, even leading him towards it. There are stories or like aunts and sisters (and brothers!) offering him to meet the girls, in one case a brother actually patiently waits outside the house so smallbuns can finish fucking the sister!

He recounts experience of fucking students and teachers in a vocational college, and picking up girls in crowded minibuses and even gas stations! On one occasion he shares a bus full of chickens and farm animals, befriends his fellow passenger, and fucks her as soon as they disembark.

He details sceneries of the African safari life, of being a vegetarian, and the cultural differences.

Highly recommend this book! Its available at [URL]https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Love-Enlightening-Epiphanies-Savannah-ebook/dp/B0BQ53CKVN/[/URL] for just $5 for the ebook.[/QUOTE]Ah good. You don't need a night club to score. An old Africa operator scores EVERYWHERE. That's Africa. It's made for the great white hunter. The average drunk sex tourist will always get the expired leftovers. Or the overpriced slay queens. Just ride Matatus. You'll pick up loads of telephone numbers.

Mwalimu.

Any reports from a recent visit?

What are the clubs to go by night? Anything in Nairobi that would be similar to Casablanca in mombasa? (I kind of liked the place) A lot of posts but very few reports.

I'll be in mombasa next week but will try to spend a few days in Nairobi. I will see if I can provide you with a report.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2782328]Ah good. You don't need a night club to score. An old Africa operator scores EVERYWHERE. That's Africa. It's made for the great white hunter. The average drunk sex tourist will always get the expired leftovers. Or the overpriced slay queens. Just ride Matatus. You'll pick up loads of telephone numbers.

Mwalimu.[/QUOTE]I've seen this sentiment deep in the history of this thread as well as other African threads here. I'm experienced only in the club realms of Europe and Latin America, and having trouble visualizing what you mean by this. What I've gleamed so far from reading this thread, is that any girl in Africa is on the table. Does that mean when I'm in Africa, I can simply ask any girl I like how much? Or do I need to be more polite than that? Does it matter where? On the matatu, on the beach, in a fancy or cheap restaurant, with a man, with her children etc? Are there any courtesies that need to be observed while hunting in Africa?

Sorry if these questions don't make sense -- I have not been to Africa yet.

[QUOTE=Ballin69;2782724]I've seen this sentiment deep in the history of this thread as well as other African threads here. I'm experienced only in the club realms of Europe and Latin America, and having trouble visualizing what you mean by this. What I've gleamed so far from reading this thread, is that any girl in Africa is on the table. Does that mean when I'm in Africa, I can simply ask any girl I like how much? Or do I need to be more polite than that? Does it matter where? On the matatu, on the beach, in a fancy or cheap restaurant, with a man, with her children etc? Are there any courtesies that need to be observed while hunting in Africa?

Sorry if these questions don't make sense -- I have not been to Africa yet.[/QUOTE]Yes. You answered most of your questions already. Be polite. Ask for her telephone number. In most cases you'll get it. Then fix a date. Drink a soda. Invite her to your lair for watching TV. Do the deed. After you hand over "Taxi money" in the region of 10 USD. Voila you're done. Repeat.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=Ballin69;2782724]I've seen this sentiment deep in the history of this thread as well as other African threads here. I'm experienced only in the club realms of Europe and Latin America, and having trouble visualizing what you mean by this. What I've gleamed so far from reading this thread, is that any girl in Africa is on the table. Does that mean when I'm in Africa, I can simply ask any girl I like how much? Or do I need to be more polite than that? Does it matter where? On the matatu, on the beach, in a fancy or cheap restaurant, with a man, with her children etc? Are there any courtesies that need to be observed while hunting in Africa?

Sorry if these questions don't make sense -- I have not been to Africa yet.[/QUOTE]Ah. And download and read the book by small buns. There you'll find all the answers you need. Hilarious. Excellent training manual. Then book a flight to Nairobi. It'll change your life for ever. There's no turning back afterwards.

Mwalimu.

Who'll roam subsaharan Africa till my final breath.

[QUOTE=JohnDarkSmith;2782469]Any reports from a recent visit?

What are the clubs to go by night? Anything in Nairobi that would be similar to Casablanca in mombasa? (I kind of liked the place) A lot of posts but very few reports.

I'll be in mombasa next week but will try to spend a few days in Nairobi. I will see if I can provide you with a report.[/QUOTE]It depends how big your balls are. When I took a trip las time I frequented Sabrina Joy then you get another place on the opposite side of the block. From there you can venture down Luthuni Ave then turn left on River road and another left on Latema road. If you see a stairway going up with music coming out you are more than likely in the right place. Several of these dotted around the route. I took frequent trips, never at night tho as my balls are not that big. You will get some looks as Mzungus in these places are rare. The pic included was one of the more popular ones with some nice ladies. On River Road.

[QUOTE=TrueGent;2782990]It depends how big your balls are. When I took a trip las time I frequented Sabrina Joy then you get another place on the opposite side of the block. From there you can venture down Luthuni Ave then turn left on River road and another left on Latema road. If you see a stairway going up with music coming out you are more than likely in the right place. Several of these dotted around the route. I took frequent trips, never at night tho as my balls are not that big. You will get some looks as Mzungus in these places are rare. The pic included was one of the more popular ones with some nice ladies. On River Road.[/QUOTE]Well thanks! .

[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;2782047]I am not being paid anything to promote this book. I just am a huge fan of this book and sharing it with fellow hobbyists.

Forum senior member at smallbuns has written a second book on his Eat. Fuck. Love series. This book details his adventures in Kenya and Tanzania over trips that spanned 7 years in vivid details. He has shared several naughty episodes with girls, in both urban and rural settings. Like skinny-dipping in lakes and ponds, with girls taking it for granted that he will be fucking them eventually, even leading him towards it. There are stories or like aunts and sisters (and brothers!) offering him to meet the girls, in one case a brother actually patiently waits outside the house so smallbuns can finish fucking the sister!

He recounts experience of fucking students and teachers in a vocational college, and picking up girls in crowded minibuses and even gas stations! On one occasion he shares a bus full of chickens and farm animals, befriends his fellow passenger, and fucks her as soon as they disembark.

He details sceneries of the African safari life, of being a vegetarian, and the cultural differences.

Highly recommend this book! Its available at [URL]https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Love-Enlightening-Epiphanies-Savannah-ebook/dp/B0BQ53CKVN/[/URL] for just $5 for the ebook.[/QUOTE]I read on another post somewhere that it was possible to read the first couple pages before purchasing. Do you know how I can read a sample of his book?

I went through the advised path and Sabina pub was the funniest. All types of talents in, girls for all tastes.

It was Tuesday and still found the place pretty busy to be honest.

I ventured to a few other clubs but only the classic club vip was truly busy (even in the afternoon).

There are some SW on river road and adjacent street but I would advise avoiding that option.

I just had a few chats and enjoyed some company in Sabina, so I won't extend as there is not much more to say. Just be mindful of the situation at all time as these kind of places can quickly lead to a few rip off.

[QUOTE=Ballin69;2783449]I read on another post somewhere that it was possible to read the first couple pages before purchasing. Do you know how I can read a sample of his book?[/QUOTE]I just finished reading. Best book hands down for sexploration of Africa. Very saucy without beeing sleazy. Explicit. A MUST READ. This book will save you a lot of time and hassle. What you want to sample? The book is 5 quid but worth it's money in GOLD. I devoured it in 2 days. While most of it I know already, this book is a must read for anybody who ventures the first time into the dark continent. Its 90% Kenia but great fun I definitely have to go for this "massage" Ugandan style. Amazing. Men can actually squirt too. And I definitely go to the Massai Mara. LOL. Great insight in the sexual practices of all major Kenyan tribes. 5 stars out of five. Great writing style.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=Ballin69;2783449]I read on another post somewhere that it was possible to read the first couple pages before purchasing. Do you know how I can read a sample of his book?[/QUOTE]Don't worry about the 5 Euro! I just bought it and it seems to be a very good written book, for us Mongers, Just buy it.

Auro.

[QUOTE=JohnAuro;2785349]Don't worry about the 5 Euro! I just bought it and it seems to be a very good written book, for us Mongers, Just buy it.

Auro.[/QUOTE]I confirm, he wrote two new books, one about East Africa and another one about Congo.

Don't hesitate to buy both, still so well written and nice hot stories about Africa!

Hope to see new ones again.

I couldn't find "smallbuns" on the forum but I am truly enjoying the book. I've been to Kenya many times myself. I met a non-pro about 12-13 years ago thru work related stuff, after talking online for many months and inviting her to the US, she said she would only come if I went to Kenya first. It was my first time leaving the US and I went to Kenya totally by myself. Probably not very smart of me but thankfully she was an amazing woman and we eventually married and had a child together. She was 10 years younger than me and is still amazingly beautiful. She never asked me for anything and to this day hardly asks for anything and we have an amazing life together, married for almost a decade now. LOL I acknowledge being a total degenerate before I met her and I've tried to slow down, but I have been increasingly successful financially since meeting her so that has made it harder to quit exploring other women. I know I'm a terrible person.

Anyway really enjoying the book, although I have only had sex with 1 other woman in Kenya, I have had many similar experiences there of the non-sexual related kind.

[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;2782047]I am not being paid anything to promote this book. I just am a huge fan of this book and sharing it with fellow hobbyists.

Forum senior member at smallbuns has written a second book on his Eat. Fuck. Love series. This book details his adventures in Kenya and Tanzania over trips that spanned 7 years in vivid details. He has shared several naughty episodes with girls, in both urban and rural settings. Like skinny-dipping in lakes and ponds, with girls taking it for granted that he will be fucking them eventually, even leading him towards it. There are stories or like aunts and sisters (and brothers!) offering him to meet the girls, in one case a brother actually patiently waits outside the house so smallbuns can finish fucking the sister!

He recounts experience of fucking students and teachers in a vocational college, and picking up girls in crowded minibuses and even gas stations! On one occasion he shares a bus full of chickens and farm animals, befriends his fellow passenger, and fucks her as soon as they disembark.

He details sceneries of the African safari life, of being a vegetarian, and the cultural differences.

Highly recommend this book! Its available at [URL]https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Love-Enlightening-Epiphanies-Savannah-ebook/dp/B0BQ53CKVN/[/URL] for just $5 for the ebook.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnAuro;2785349]Don't worry about the 5 Euro! I just bought it and it seems to be a very good written book, for us Mongers, Just buy it.

Auro.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to buy the ebook at amazon, but for some reason I can't manage to get it.

They want me to become a member of Kindle or something like.

Can I only get this ebook only when I am a member of Kindle.

I am reliably informed The Boss Den / Black Diamond has still got plenty to offer at the weekends at present. Unsure about weekdays. Any updates?

The new Kiza strip club in Kilimani is attracting both locals and foreign patrons especially at the weekends. I have little information at present but its a place for those who like booty.

Brew Bistro (Westlands) is also offering some weekday and weekend opportunities.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=JohnDarkSmith;2782469]Any reports from a recent visit?

What are the clubs to go by night? Anything in Nairobi that would be similar to Casablanca in mombasa? (I kind of liked the place) A lot of posts but very few reports.

I'll be in mombasa next week but will try to spend a few days in Nairobi. I will see if I can provide you with a report.[/QUOTE]

Mwalimu's formula is pretty straightforward, fair and should prove successful.

Don't meet around lunch or supper time to avoid having to fund dining. Unless you are happy to provide.

That said, if you meet in a local joint the cost of a mishkaki and chips could be worth it.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2782899]Yes. You answered most of your questions already. Be polite. Ask for her telephone number. In most cases you'll get it. Then fix a date. Drink a soda. Invite her to your lair for watching TV. Do the deed. After you hand over "Taxi money" in the region of 10 USD. Voila you're done. Repeat.

Mwalimu.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ThighsFan;2792581]Don't meet around lunch or supper time...[/QUOTE]Unless you catch her just after a rare large meal, its been my experience that she can always eat. Avoiding set meal times is western thought.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2795532]Unless you catch her just after a rare large meal, its been my experience that she can always eat. Avoiding set meal times is western thought.[/QUOTE]There's no need to wine and dine an African girl at an expensive restaurant. Unless she's in the finer things in life. Which usually are refined hoes with a high price tag. A normal African girl LOVES chicken and chips. Take her to a fast food joint. Why? They cannot usually afford that. For them it's a luxury item.

Funny enough. If on rare occasions I'm generous inviting my chica for lunch in Madagascar. What do they order? Chicken and chips.

Mwalimu.

Yes but fast food chain Lagastronomie is not that cheap in Madagascar Though in Nairobi good restaurants are really expensive! There is a lot of money in Nairobi for sure.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2795648]There's no need to wine and dine an African girl at an expensive restaurant. Unless she's in the finer things in life. Which usually are refined hoes with a high price tag. A normal African girl LOVES chicken and chips. Take her to a fast food joint. Why? They cannot usually afford that. For them it's a luxury item.

Funny enough. If on rare occasions I'm generous inviting my chica for lunch in Madagascar. What do they order? Chicken and chips.

Mwalimu.[/QUOTE]

Nairobi is awesome. Recently stayed in the Kilimani area which is where a lot of high rise condos are. A lot of foreigners stay in this area and at night you will see a few girls on the streets. Its an upscale area like westlands but not as pricey. A lot of massage parlors around. 1 is just a block from the airbnb I stayed at. Paradise spa. Walk in pay 3 k for an hour. Than they send you a line up to choose from. Massage was lame and I just told her I wanted a BJ. I payed 3 k extra for bbcim. She asks for a tip its up to you. I found 3 k to be the standard for ST all around and 5 k for the super hot chicks on tinder. Although some will quote more. One thing I like about east africa is that polygamy is the norm there and the women understand if you tell them you see multiple women.

Anyways I want to plug this guys Airbnb because it was only place with a king bed and AC and the manager was cooler than most. The place had copl LED lighting that you could change the color and set the mood with.

[URL]airbnb.com[/URL]/ h / b607.

Nairobi is awesome. Recently stayed in the Kilimani area which is where a lot of high rise condos are. A lot of foreigners stay in this area and at night you will see a few girls on the streets. Its an upscale area like westlands but not as pricey. A lot of massage parlors around. 1 is just a block from the airbnb I stayed at. Paradise spa. Walk in pay 3 k for an hour. Than they send you a line up to choose from. Massage was lame and I just told her I wanted a BJ. I payed 3 k extra for bbcim. She asks for a tip its up to you. I found 3 k to be the standard for ST all around and 5 k for the super hot chicks on tinder. Although some will quote more. One thing I like about east africa is that polygamy is the norm there and the women understand if you tell them you see multiple women.

Anyways I want to plug this guys Airbnb because it was only place with a king bed and AC and the manager was cooler than most. The place had cool LED lighting that you could change the color and set the mood with.

[URL]airbnb.com[/URL]/ h / b607.

[QUOTE=Kako123;2797892]Yes but fast food chain Lagastronomie is not that cheap in Madagascar Though in Nairobi good restaurants are really expensive! There is a lot of money in Nairobi for sure.[/QUOTE]Kuku with chips cost you 1000 KES about 7. 5 US in Nairobi, a decent place (not street).

A small trip report.

Where Kampala was the city of guns on every corner of the street and shaded police officers in vans with sirens blazing by, Dar the town of adding a "why" behind every word "friendy", "hotely" and monks on the street. Nairobi is that of absurdly pimped busses with up to 7 LCD screens and deafening speakers playing Reggae and Hip Hop (which I love but they never really have my songs). I might have encountered a working radio in Kampala once, in Dar they had some sound but no screens.

What outrages me is the price of the boda's in Nairobi. 1 k UGX per km equals about 500 TSH per km, here they ask tripple rate of 100 BOB per km. This makes things difficult. It forces you to stay in CBD near the bus terminals and jump a bus with your date.

Price of the food and medicine stays the same, a kg of meat is half price in Kampala though. In Dar they don't sell pork in the supermarkets.

A BBBJ goes for 1500 BOB in Sabina Joy or 1000 BOB on the street. A quickie with condom also goes for 1 k on the street. Full service incl BB 2 to 3 k on the street. 3 k for full service in Sabina Joy.

-On Kenyatta Avenue between Koinange St and Wabera St. Turn into Webera St for some more. After 9. 30 pm some WG's may be walking through Koinange St.

-End of Luthili Avenue towards River Road there's some low class brothels New Amar and Ricoz. Right there at Kamae Rd is another one. Small World Waters is a fun stripclub, they really grind your cock with their bare pussies. Kitale and New Nyanza here are closed.

-Another cluster is Liddos, Gabeez and Bavon. Liddos has the hottest strippers in town, if you want any chance at firm young titties go here.

-River Rd from Luthili Avenue to Latema Rd are several brothels and streetwalkers. Saturday afternoon seems booming. Rooms are 200 BOB, BJ or quickie with condom 1 k, BB 2 to 3 k. I'm not sure if there were ever a Tea Room or Nyandarua Lodge but here's 5 low class brothels on River, Duruma and Ngariama Rd.

-Sabina Joy is not a stripclub but a lounge / bar with up to 30 girls present for company. Rooms in the back for 300 bob, in the front for 1000 bob. 1500 bob for a BBBJ and 3 k for full service.

-Arghwing Kodhek Rd starting at Woodlands Lane up to Elgeyo Rd are some streetwalkers dressing well. 10 pm is a good time.

-Westlands. I arrived at Black Diamons at 9 pm to find a single unattractive WG. A hike over Westlands Rd was deserted to turn left on Chiromo Lane where there's some WG's up untill K1 (arrived at 10 pm). I should give Brew Bistro and Black Diamonds another try at 12 pm.

-Ngara. Park Rd has streetwalkers. Kipkabus Safari Club was nearly empty and Samma Rays closed.

-Internet dating: WTF?! After two weeks on Badoo and Tinder I got five offers for a 5 k hookup, which is 150 k UGX. No thanks.

I enjoyed some lapdances which weren't there in Dar and Kampala. I like to get a BBBJ on River Rd brothels or Sabina Joy, these were scarce in Dar.

Sinza was the hood of perfect firm young titties, Kampala of a second round with ST. In CBD there's stripclubs and you can get some easy BBBJ.

I'm busy digging in estates, the price is right but where are the young girls?!

I didn't really feel like talking about politics but since nobody's mentioned it. There's demonstrations going on in Nairobi, yesterday was the second day and they have been announced every Monday and Thursday. Both days I saw riot police and last week I got some smoke or teargas in my eyes twice, didn't see the crowd myself.

Shops are closed after the demonstrations.

I don't want to insult anyone but so far I have arrived in "mom town". You don't exactly go into city center in Dar for young firm tits either so I won't give up yet.

Liddos has some hot young girls but they're too up market for me. I was really spoiled in Kampala and Dar, I'm not going back here unless I find a decent location, the Sinza of Nairobi.

Which time? Which location or bar? I've been trying to cover ground for two weeks now going through my "amazing site-scrape" I posted months back. I can't say I really found that location yet, every estate I visit costs me a BJ on boda and bus money.

Where are the young girls?

[QUOTE=Absolute757;2798839]Nairobi is awesome. Recently stayed in the Kilimani area which is where a lot of high rise condos are. A lot of foreigners stay in this area and at night you will see a few girls on the streets. Its an upscale area like westlands but not as pricey. A lot of massage parlors around. 1 is just a block from the airbnb I stayed at. Paradise spa. Walk in pay 3 k for an hour. Than they send you a line up to choose from. Massage was lame and I just told her I wanted a BJ. I payed 3 k extra for bbcim. She asks for a tip its up to you. I found 3 k to be the standard for ST all around and 5 k for the super hot chicks on tinder. Although some will quote more. One thing I like about east africa is that polygamy is the norm there and the women understand if you tell them you see multiple women.

Anyways I want to plug this guys Airbnb because it was only place with a king bed and AC and the manager was cooler than most. The place had cool LED lighting that you could change the color and set the mood with.

[URL]airbnb.com[/URL]/ h / b607.[/QUOTE]The link isn't working for the airbnb can you repost or pm me. I would love to stay there.

[QUOTE=Sjonnie39;2802129]Where are the young girls?[/QUOTE]You mean 18 and over?

Sorry I can't help much with Nairobi. I never had much luck at night in Kenya. Its mostly men or men with their mistresses at nightclubs. I've only lived here 1-1/4 years but I haven't been to northern parts of Mombasa which has a foreign presence. Out in western Kenya, daytime is the best time to meet new ladies walking home. The best times are 4-6 after work and Sundays coming from church. Once you get her number, you will have trouble getting rid of her. She wants you the first opportunity.

I saw an add for Klub Image Thika on one of the social media apps for bikini twerking contests, pole dancers and ladies nights. But Thika is NE of Nairobi CBD and I'm not sure if I would trust those adds. Ask your hotel valet / security if they know. You might have luck asking boda boda or taxi drivers.

[QUOTE=Sjonnie39;2802128]I didn't really feel like talking about politics but since nobody's mentioned it. There's demonstrations going on in Nairobi, yesterday was the second day and they have been announced every Monday and Thursday. Both days I saw riot police and last week I got some smoke or teargas in my eyes twice, didn't see the crowd myself.

Shops are closed after the demonstrations.[/QUOTE]President hasn't fulfilled his el3 ction campaign promises ref food prices (increasing) and people protests.

[QUOTE=Sjonnie39;2802129]I don't want to insult anyone but so far I have arrived in "mom town". You don't exactly go into city center in Dar for young firm tits either so I won't give up yet.

Liddos has some hot young girls but they're too up market for me. I was really spoiled in Kampala and Dar, I'm not going back here unless I find a decent location, the Sinza of Nairobi.

Which time? Which location or bar? I've been trying to cover ground for two weeks now going through my "amazing site-scrape" I posted months back. I can't say I really found that location yet, every estate I visit costs me a BJ on boda and bus money.

Where are the young girls?[/QUOTE]In the good old times CBD was bustling. Just read my old posts. Nowadays? All the girls have smart phones. They hunker down at night at home. No need to dress up and look for men like in the old days. Nowadays you spread your pussy in the internet and there's loads of Western Idiots prepared to send over money. Westlands? Was never that good either. The only chance you have is hunting civilians in daytime. There's loads of pussy in need of funding.

There's no Sinza in Nairobi. I'f I were you I'd base myself near a big slum area. Usually around there's joints. But that strategy is only for experienced Africa operators. Liddos upmarket? Not while I was there.

Right now Nairobi is not a good place to be. It seems that the post election violence this time came very late LOL. Nothing special though. Always the same. Uhuru ransacked the treasury before he left office and left only spider webs for Ruto.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=Sjonnie39;2802126]A small trip report.

Where Kampala was the city of guns on every corner of the street and shaded police officers in vans with sirens blazing by, Dar the town of adding a "why" behind every word "friendy", "hotely" and monks on the street. Nairobi is that of absurdly pimped busses with up to 7 LCD screens and deafening speakers playing Reggae and Hip Hop (which I love but they never really have my songs). I might have encountered a working radio in Kampala once, in Dar they had some sound but no screens.

What outrages me is the price of the boda's in Nairobi. 1 k UGX per km equals about 500 TSH per km, here they ask tripple rate of 100 BOB per km. This makes things difficult. It forces you to stay in CBD near the bus terminals and jump a bus with your date.

Price of the food and medicine stays the same, a kg of meat is half price in Kampala though. In Dar they don't sell pork in the supermarkets.

A BBBJ goes for 1500 BOB in Sabina Joy or 1000 BOB on the street. A quickie with condom also goes for 1 k on the street. Full service incl BB 2 to 3 k on the street. 3 k for full service in Sabina Joy.

-On Kenyatta Avenue between Koinange St and Wabera St. Turn into Webera St for some more. After 9. 30 pm some WG's may be walking through Koinange St.[/QUOTE]Try Eastlands. If you have the guts that is. Transport. Yeah that's a major issue. I never bother with internet dating. There's enough running around in the streets in dire need of funding.

Try Buruburu they have real nice bongo disco busses. But you have to base yourself there.

Mwalimu.

What are bongo disco busses??

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2802401]Try Eastlands. If you have the guts that is. Transport. Yeah that's a major issue. I never bother with internet dating. There's enough running around in the streets in dire need of funding.

Try Buruburu they have real nice bongo disco busses. But you have to base yourself there.

Mwalimu.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kako123;2803001]What are bongo disco busses??[/QUOTE]Mwalimu has been to so many countries, he's mixing terms, LOL. He means 'matatus', the privately-owned public transit buses; but specifically the loud-music & colorfully-painted minibuses, they look like this: [URL]https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/matatu-culture-nairobi/index.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2802401]Try Eastlands. If you have the guts that is. Transport. Yeah that's a major issue. I never bother with internet dating. There's enough running around in the streets in dire need of funding.

Try Buruburu they have real nice bongo disco busses. But you have to base yourself there.

Mwalimu.[/QUOTE]Baba Neddy, you're always recommending these residential areas, for years! But you know most members here, even if they went there, have no guidance on where to go--and tougher, where to stay in those hoods. Neither do I!

(When there, I stay at the house of friends. And I have no recommendations of pubs or clubs to try out).

In fact, next time I'm in eg Buru Buru, Donholm, Umoja, Eastleigh, etc, and I see this one mzee mzungu at night walking around or hangin' at some pub, I'll know it's you!

FYI folks, these areas are not specifically dangerous, actually the reverse: they are purely residential neighborhoods where the common working-men / women & their families live. So much so that if they see foreigners walking around in those hoods, it would be like seeing a traveling circus marching thru your own neighborhood.

[QUOTE=EdenOdow;2802195]The link isn't working for the airbnb can you repost or pm me. I would love to stay there.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if we're allowed to post Abb links on here, so just go to any AirBbb listing then change the link number to 45112935.

[QUOTE=Sjonnie39;2802129]Liddos has some hot young girls but they're too up market for me. I was really spoiled in Kampala and Dar, I'm not going back here unless I find a decent location, the Sinza of Nairobi.

Which time? Which location or bar? I've been trying to cover ground for two weeks now going through my "amazing site-scrape" I posted months back. I can't say I really found that location yet, every estate I visit costs me a BJ on boda and bus money.

Where are the young girls?[/QUOTE]No offense also!

Wait, are you the guy I replied to back months? -- [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2709479[/URL]#post2709479.

If you think Liddos is upmarket, my guy!: where are you from? I'm going to guess, you're UG or TZ? As you know, Nairo ain't Dar or Kampala -- that's like comparing New York City to the largest cities in Kentucky and Nebraska!

As for the young chicas, like Mwalimu Neddy pointed, you got to join the 21st Century: such girls are on 'social media' apps. And with the tough economy and the destruction of the pickup joints in CBD, they stay at home and 'work' their local areas. Thankfully, that makes them more willing to trek over to a mzungu's place. If the money's right!

The days of the adventurous being in CBD are over (and they don't want to be seen hanging with some old w. Guy in the glare of downtown! Except for those who Rate 6 and under--and those are in lowclass places like Sabina and River Road, where you've already been. And the girls on the apps want 'pesa mwingi' - mucho deniro. Much Money! They think being on the apps upscale their rates, heh.

If you want to stay in low range budget, and pretty looks ain't an issue for you, your best best is to stay at the shadier sides of town, CBD better that StreetWs, and hope some young things are available.

Yes psycho bongo disco busses. Do you dare to ride? Haha.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2802401]Try Eastlands. If you have the guts that is. Transport. Yeah that's a major issue. I never bother with internet dating. There's enough running around in the streets in dire need of funding.

Try Buruburu they have real nice bongo disco busses. But you have to base yourself there.

Mwalimu.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2802395]

Right now Nairobi is not a good place to be. It seems that the post election violence this time came very late LOL. Nothing special though. Always the same. Uhuru ransacked the treasury before he left office and left only spider webs for Ruto.

Mwalimu.[/QUOTE]Are the riots still going on? Any specific area of the city?

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2805533]Are the riots still going on? Any specific area of the city?[/QUOTE]It was a government holiday, Monda and I didn't hear of any riots. I was told they are over with.

I've got a hernia so I'm not abusing anything, I'm using this for my good health and it works.

I bought Sustanon ampuls 1 ML in the pharmacies of Dar and Nairobi at about 7-10 USD. HCG5000 IU for 7-13 USD. Got it on prescription of the hospital but they don't ask for it. Tamoxifen is cheap, don't use it. Unfortunately I need some orals to go with it for it to really work.

In Dar I got some Anavar and Dianabol from trainers from the gyms and a nutrition shop. MediTech brand. Walk in the park, no problems.

Right now I'm in Nairobi. This has been my worst nightmare. I went to gyms in the worst parts in town, the best parts in town and far out of town. Tried stores on Jiji. All of a sudden this is a big mysterie, nobodies selling. Everyone is denying. Got fake Dbol capsules delivered, fake Winstrol capsules. Didn't pay. Nutrition stores in total denial as well. All of the guys I approached were obvious users, I'm not dumb.

Wtf am I going to do, where do I buy in Nairobi?! This is supposed to be this bad ass town sniffing glue and handing out gear like candy.

My last effort will be approaching some big guys in bars. I'm speechless.

Some help please.

[QUOTE=CartMan50;2809174]Some help please.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what you are asking for so this may just be useless.

For most medication:

In Kenya, go the Pharmacy, (Chemist), write down what you need and ask for it. You don't need a Dr's prescription.

If you don't know what you need, tell the Chemist your symptoms. You don't need a Doctor.

If you don't like that Chemist, go to a different one.

Some try to sell what you don't need, whatever they have on hand and / or overcharge you.

For Steroids:

Steroids are kinda Africa illegal.

Kinda Africa Legally, you need a Dr's prescription...

Show them your TZ or other prescription... or write it down yourself and hand it to the Chemist.

Some Chemist's write prescriptions.

[QUOTE=CartMan50;2809174]I've got a hernia so I'm not abusing anything, I'm using this for my good health and it works.

.[/QUOTE]Get an operation done. Most simple. Done in a day.

Swallowing pills will get you in the mad house after a while.

Get real man. Not be a dreamer.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2806956]It was a government holiday, Monda and I didn't hear of any riots. I was told they are over with.[/QUOTE]Actually there were riots again on 2 may. I wouldn't stay home because of it but I suppose there will be more.

It got such a bad name. I don't think it's that bad. Like in Kampala and Dar I visited most of the estates even the ones considered dangerous late at night. I certainly wasn't robbed at knife or gunpoint. Yeah like in the other towns they might try to pick pocket you, if someone starts walking close to you begging or whatever immediatly put your hands on your pockets. Sort of stick to the asfalt. Red light zones are always busy area's so more or less safe in my opinion.

I didn't like Airportzone Club red light area in Githurai 44 (it's called 45 here actually I think) but they had some ok looking girls. To much attention / harrassment being white. I was more comfortable walking around in the Mwananyamala red light zone in Dar.

That being said beggers in Nairobi have the nasty habbit of following you. They just don't give up and keep following you. I never snapped before but I snapped 3 times in Nairobi, just screamed to fuck off at the top of my voice boiling. This caused some shouting / aggression with 2 of them. This is the problem with Nairobi, just try to stay calm.

The thing with all these reports is that we take different kinds of woman. This is my report, feel free to comment.

My favourite places are River Road brothels during the day, night streetwalkers on Arghwing Kodhek Rd and Nyama Village. Liddo's. The Kasarani brothel. Thika streetwalkers. I guess I did some in Sabina Joy but the girls are rarely hot, I walked out one time too many. I slept next to some streetwalkers, watched a movie, had chicken with fries. BB is a little less common in Nairobi could start at 2 k, 3 k is the price IMHO but a 10 k demand even on the streets is not unlikely.

So many massage places I guess, too expensive, didn't dig into it.

I like 25 k boiled eggs with some fine tomato / onion from the street stands. The chicken and fries snack bars are all ok but I prefered BBQ chicken legs in Kampala or even those glass case fly covered orange fried legs in Dar. The mango's and pine apple are great. Bus system in Nairobi is the best, no real jams, less walking. 7 k for a year of Karura Forest with Colobus monkeys roaming free.

-On Kenyatta Avenue between Koinange St and Wabera St. Turn into Webera St for some more. After 9. 30 pm some WG's may be walking through Koinange St.

-End of Luthili Avenue towards River Road there's some low class brothels New Amar and Ricoz. Right there at Kamae Rd is another one. Small World Waters is a fun stripclub, they really grind your cock with their bare pussies. Kitale and New Nyanza here are closed.

-Another cluster is Liddos, Sabina's, Gabeez and Bavon. Liddos has the hottest strippers in town. (20+).

Liddos = 500 KES entrance fee - 600 KES Shot / lady drink - 400 k 2 xcola - 4500 KES ST Room - 1000 KES BJ Tip.

Still didn't get too visit Sabina's, Gabeez and Bavon.

-River Rd from Luthili Avenue to Latema Rd and in Duruma Rd are several brothels and streetwalkers. Saturday afternoon seems booming. Rooms are 200 BOB, BJ or quickie with condom 1 k, BB 2 to 3 k. Older girls at night but some young gems 12 to 7 pm. All the talk about River Rd being dangerous and hiv infected, the truth is that a lot of these girls don't even BB or demand 5 to 10 k. Lot's of hotels in this street with tourists so not that dangerous either.

-I'm not sure if there were ever a Tea Room or Nyandarua Lodge but here's 5 low class brothels on River, Duruma and Ngariama Rd. Best time 5-6 pm.

-Sabina Joy is not a stripclub but a lounge / bar with up to 30 girls present for company. Rooms in the back for 300 bob, in the front for 1000 bob. 1500 bob for a BBBJ and 3 k for full service.

-More CBD Brothels:

2nd floor of Sunrise Hotel Keekorok Rd.

Lazarus Restaurant 2nd floor, many call girls have a room here.

-Arghwing Kodhek Rd starting at Woodlands Lane up to Elgeyo Rd are some streetwalkers dressing well. 10 pm is a good time. Girls in front of Blacky's Lounge.

-Westlands:

-Boss Den (former Black Diamonds): Just one WG at 9 pm but at 11.30 pm there were four, I liked two of them got the price down to 4 k but didn't agree on service.

-Havana had at least 5 girls at 12 pm but asking too much 150 USD. I have no idea why anyone would go for cranky pretentious like this.

-Brew Bistro had an ok WG willing to go for 4 k.

-K1: Was there on Thursday Reggae night. Found 4 girls walking around, the one I found attractive wanted 7 k for st.

-The Alchemist: 12 pm Thursday night, suspicious looking one in pretty dress doing some dance steps all alone. Approached her and was willing to go but didn't agree on service. Don't even know her price.

-Westlands Rd was deserted on 10 pm but after midnight a group of 5.

-Chiromo Lane has some WG's up untill K1 past 9 pm.

Massage: Black Diamond Mall Westlands near Aga Khan. Massage on 4th floor. 10 girls 3 k room 2 k handjob. There was another massage in Westlands or maybe even more than one.

None of the girls I found attractive enough in Westlands were willing to BB. With all the expensive drinks I have no idea why anyone would visit this estate. Maybe guys looking for older girls have a different experience.

Kilimani / Hurlingham / Thompson Estate:

Blacky'z: Girls in front and maybe 2 inside. Can bb for 3 to 4 k.

Onyx: Table with 3 hot students not going under 7 k for st.

Brew Bistro: Nothing.

Fine Breeze: Nothing.

-Ngara. Park Rd has streetwalkers. Kipkabus Safari Club was nearly empty and Samma Rays closed.

-Pipeline Embakkasi, in an unnamed street leading towards the way up to EA Aviation School from Airport and Rd, say between Regional Hotel and Outer Ring Rd there's two strip clubs. There's two holes in the Aston Villa area, druggies.

-Majengo and Shauri Moyo were a waste of time. Huruma at Kwa Mbuthia Bar in front and the back but why go here.

-Umoja / Kayole. Forget about the whole Pewa st, Club Paris, church area. It's Nyama Village, wg's and st rooms accros the road.

-Eastleigh is the Muslim estate, find yourself surrounded with burka's. At Mirangi Bar, girls in Burka's. Took a nice girl here twice but they more or less do missionary only. Foreskin comments. Muslim girls in Dar were more fun. 3 k for bb. Old internet articles tell of more in 1st to 12th street but found none. Stay away from Eastleigh unless you're a muslim.

-Kawangware. No idea, should be in the Zebra Bar area but nothing.

-Kasarani. Brothel left next to Switch Lounge.

-Githurai 45. Airport Club, on the alley / street leading around the club about 30+ prostitutes. Shit area to be white.

-Mlolongo. Matharau Street, In the two streets behind Continental Inn is an area with small alleys and rooms with girls sitting in front. 20+ prostitutes. Felt safe enough but no reason to return.

-Kibera. Went through all of Kibera Drive and visited The Garage Pub in the side street of Fort Jesus Stage but saw nothing.

-Thika. 100 ksh with the bus to Commercial Street in Thika centre. The northern end of Uhuru Street and the alley Uhuru Lane. ST hotel in the paralel street east next to Uhuru Street 200 ksh. Took a hot girl all night for 5 k with the bus back to my hotel. ST 2 k.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2811402]Get an operation done. Most simple. Done in a day.

Swallowing pills will get you in the mad house after a while.

Get real man. Not be a dreamer.[/QUOTE]Come on man old timers are going to want some Sustanon and Sildenafil / Viagra for their peckers and Male Hypogonadism. Deca stack to keep them flexible and strong.

Had an amazingly succesfull shoulder operation but being into sport it caused me pain and misery for 20 years. Taking Deca now and it's over. Of course you need to know about food and eat your meat.

Never had this issue in Kampala or Dar. Day time is no problem but at night the cops will stop you in CBD and ask for your papers and yellow vaccination booklet. Was led straight to an alley, I beat them to it and offered some money which clearly was their intention because there was no police station in this muddey lane. 10 k.

Second time I had my papers with me and could go.

[QUOTE=KennyEstate;2816455]Come on man old timers are going to want some Sustanon and Sildenafil / Viagra for their peckers and Male Hypogonadism. Deca stack to keep them flexible and strong.

Had an amazingly succesfull shoulder operation but being into sport it caused me pain and misery for 20 years. Taking Deca now and it's over. Of course you need to know about food and eat your meat.[/QUOTE]Are you sure you know what you are talking about? You mentioned that you take pills to cure "Hernia"?

Silly.

[QUOTE=KennyEstate;2816447]<snip!>[/QUOTE]Wow, So little return for so much effort. But if that's what you want.

Why not just use apps? (yeah, I hate them too, but much more efficient) Or, use massage parlors know for P-2-P / happy endings?

If you get stuck, PM me.

Know a lady who has a lot of "friends" that are willing to help us out.

Varying from 4 K. Depending on cuteness, desire and time.

She's been pretty reliable for me so far.

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2818169]Wow, So little return for so much effort. But if that's what you want.

Why not just use apps? (yeah, I hate them too, but much more efficient) Or, use massage parlors know for P-2-P / happy endings?[/QUOTE]

This is a very comprehensive list. Very useful too. You my friend, are a good man.

[QUOTE=KennyEstate;2816447]The thing with all these reports is that we take different kinds of woman. This is my report, feel free to comment.

My favourite places are River Road brothels during the day, night streetwalkers on Arghwing Kodhek Rd and Nyama Village. Liddo's. The Kasarani brothel. Thika streetwalkers. I guess I did some in Sabina Joy but the girls are rarely hot, I walked out one time too many. I slept next to some streetwalkers, watched a movie, had chicken with fries. BB is a little less common in Nairobi could start at 2 k, 3 k is the price IMHO but a 10 k demand even on the streets is not unlikely.

So many massage places I guess, too expensive, didn't dig into it.

I like 25 k boiled eggs with some fine tomato / onion from the street stands. The chicken and fries snack bars are all ok but I prefered BBQ chicken legs in Kampala or even those glass case fly covered orange fried legs in Dar. The mango's and pine apple are great. Bus system in Nairobi is the best, no real jams, less walking. 7 k for a year of Karura Forest with Colobus monkeys roaming free.

-On Kenyatta Avenue between Koinange St and Wabera St. Turn into Webera St for some more. After 9. 30 pm some WG's may be walking through Koinange St.

-End of Luthili Avenue towards River Road there's some low class brothels New Amar and Ricoz. Right there at Kamae Rd is another one. Small World Waters is a fun stripclub, they really grind your cock with their bare pussies. Kitale and New Nyanza here are closed.

-Another cluster is Liddos, Sabina's, Gabeez and Bavon. Liddos has the hottest strippers in town. (20+).

Liddos = 500 KES entrance fee - 600 KES Shot / lady drink - 400 k 2 xcola - 4500 KES ST Room - 1000 KES BJ Tip.

Still didn't get too visit Sabina's, Gabeez and Bavon.

-River Rd from Luthili Avenue to Latema Rd and in Duruma Rd are several brothels and streetwalkers. Saturday afternoon seems booming. Rooms are 200 BOB, BJ or quickie with condom 1 k, BB 2 to 3 k. Older girls at night but some young gems 12 to 7 pm. All the talk about River Rd being dangerous and hiv infected, the truth is that a lot of these girls don't even BB or demand 5 to 10 k. Lot's of hotels in this street with tourists so not that dangerous either.

-I'm not sure if there were ever a Tea Room or Nyandarua Lodge but here's 5 low class brothels on River, Duruma and Ngariama Rd. Best time 5-6 pm.

-Sabina Joy is not a stripclub but a lounge / bar with up to 30 girls present for company. Rooms in the back for 300 bob, in the front for 1000 bob. 1500 bob for a BBBJ and 3 k for full service.

-More CBD Brothels:

2nd floor of Sunrise Hotel Keekorok Rd.

Lazarus Restaurant 2nd floor, many call girls have a room here.

-Arghwing Kodhek Rd starting at Woodlands Lane up to Elgeyo Rd are some streetwalkers dressing well. 10 pm is a good time. Girls in front of Blacky's Lounge.

-Westlands:

-Boss Den (former Black Diamonds): Just one WG at 9 pm but at 11.30 pm there were four, I liked two of them got the price down to 4 k but didn't agree on service.

-Havana had at least 5 girls at 12 pm but asking too much 150 USD. I have no idea why anyone would go for cranky pretentious like this.

-Brew Bistro had an ok WG willing to go for 4 k.

-K1: Was there on Thursday Reggae night. Found 4 girls walking around, the one I found attractive wanted 7 k for st.

-The Alchemist: 12 pm Thursday night, suspicious looking one in pretty dress doing some dance steps all alone. Approached her and was willing to go but didn't agree on service. Don't even know her price.

-Westlands Rd was deserted on 10 pm but after midnight a group of 5.

-Chiromo Lane has some WG's up untill K1 past 9 pm.

Massage: Black Diamond Mall Westlands near Aga Khan. Massage on 4th floor. 10 girls 3 k room 2 k handjob. There was another massage in Westlands or maybe even more than one.

None of the girls I found attractive enough in Westlands were willing to BB. With all the expensive drinks I have no idea why anyone would visit this estate. Maybe guys looking for older girls have a different experience.

Kilimani / Hurlingham / Thompson Estate:

Blacky'z: Girls in front and maybe 2 inside. Can bb for 3 to 4 k.

Onyx: Table with 3 hot students not going under 7 k for st.

Brew Bistro: Nothing.

Fine Breeze: Nothing.

-Ngara. Park Rd has streetwalkers. Kipkabus Safari Club was nearly empty and Samma Rays closed.

-Pipeline Embakkasi, in an unnamed street leading towards the way up to EA Aviation School from Airport and Rd, say between Regional Hotel and Outer Ring Rd there's two strip clubs. There's two holes in the Aston Villa area, druggies.

-Majengo and Shauri Moyo were a waste of time. Huruma at Kwa Mbuthia Bar in front and the back but why go here.

-Umoja / Kayole. Forget about the whole Pewa st, Club Paris, church area. It's Nyama Village, wg's and st rooms accros the road.

-Eastleigh is the Muslim estate, find yourself surrounded with burka's. At Mirangi Bar, girls in Burka's. Took a nice girl here twice but they more or less do missionary only. Foreskin comments. Muslim girls in Dar were more fun. 3 k for bb. Old internet articles tell of more in 1st to 12th street but found none. Stay away from Eastleigh unless you're a muslim.

-Kawangware. No idea, should be in the Zebra Bar area but nothing.

-Kasarani. Brothel left next to Switch Lounge.

-Githurai 45. Airport Club, on the alley / street leading around the club about 30+ prostitutes. Shit area to be white.

-Mlolongo. Matharau Street, In the two streets behind Continental Inn is an area with small alleys and rooms with girls sitting in front. 20+ prostitutes. Felt safe enough but no reason to return.

-Kibera. Went through all of Kibera Drive and visited The Garage Pub in the side street of Fort Jesus Stage but saw nothing.

-Thika. 100 ksh with the bus to Commercial Street in Thika centre. The northern end of Uhuru Street and the alley Uhuru Lane. ST hotel in the paralel street east next to Uhuru Street 200 ksh. Took a hot girl all night for 5 k with the bus back to my hotel. ST 2 k.[/QUOTE]

Guys, I am in NBO end of May. Anyone with foot on the ground as wingman?

Had been there about 7 years back. From reports, seems a lot has changed since. There used to be a place in CBD where the WGs hang around. There was a popular drinking spot I am told there was some demolishing. Would be nice to know easiest path. I used to drive then as I stayed for a bit. Would it be necessary to rent a car or Uber can cut it. Any recommendations for the week? Any man on ground?

I need the advice of an experienced Kenyan mongerer.

In the Philippines, the girls on the dating sites (Pinalove, Dateinasia) often say "Serious only" and "No hookups" on their profiles. I notice that on Tagged, the ladies in Nairobi often do the same.

The funny thing is that in the Philippines, these disclaimers are virtually meaningless. They are there in case the girl is discovered by a family member or friend on the dating site. In that case, the ad looks like a serious dating ad, rather than an attempt by a pro or semi-pro to get a paid date. I have routinely ignored "serious only" and "no hook ups", and gotten laid by 90+% of these women.

What about the profiles on Nairobi dating sites. Are the girls who say "no hook ups" mostly available to hook up? Or are they serious about being "serious only"?

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2818986]I need the advice of an experienced Kenyan mongerer.

In the Philippines, the girls on the dating sites (Pinalove, Dateinasia) often say "Serious only" and "No hookups" on their profiles. I notice that on Tagged, the ladies in Nairobi often do the same.

The funny thing is that in the Philippines, these disclaimers are virtually meaningless. They are there in case the girl is discovered by a family member or friend on the dating site. In that case, the ad looks like a serious dating ad, rather than an attempt by a pro or semi-pro to get a paid date. I have routinely ignored "serious only" and "no hook ups", and gotten laid by 90+% of these women.

What about the profiles on Nairobi dating sites. Are the girls who say "no hook ups" mostly available to hook up? Or are they serious about being "serious only"?[/QUOTE]In Kenya it is all about the money.

Some men they may try to hit fast and get some cash quickly and fuck the first night. Some, if they have a bit of income at that time, may play it cool and try to get you think they are a "good" girl and look at a longer game. They are trying to read you just as you are them when you meet.

It is all a game and you play it how it feels to you. Some you win and some you lose.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2818986]I need the advice of an experienced Kenyan mongerer.

In the Philippines, the girls on the dating sites (Pinalove, Dateinasia) often say "Serious only" and "No hookups" on their profiles. I notice that on Tagged, the ladies in Nairobi often do the same.

The funny thing is that in the Philippines, these disclaimers are virtually meaningless. They are there in case the girl is discovered by a family member or friend on the dating site. In that case, the ad looks like a serious dating ad, rather than an attempt by a pro or semi-pro to get a paid date. I have routinely ignored "serious only" and "no hook ups", and gotten laid by 90+% of these women.

What about the profiles on Nairobi dating sites. Are the girls who say "no hook ups" mostly available to hook up? Or are they serious about being "serious only"?[/QUOTE]They are meaningless in Kenia too. The only serious thing is money.

Mwalimu.

MamaGuevus, without meeting her you cannot be sure. There are many who really look for a relationship. I would not count much on what they write into their profile. Chating can be more revealing. If she calls you my dear or darling from the beginning take it as a hint she is a pro. That is what I have learned from Tinder.

[QUOTE=Drifter86;2818458]If you get stuck, PM me.

Know a lady who has a lot of "friends" that are willing to help us out.

Varying from 4 K. Depending on cuteness, desire and time.

She's been pretty reliable for me so far.[/QUOTE]Hey Drifter86,

Care to share digits in my dm? I can give her a try.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2818991]In Kenya it is all about the money.[/QUOTE]What's the going rate out there?

[QUOTE=Conick2000;2830262]What's the going rate out there?[/QUOTE]Luhya girls on Badoo can be have for 1500 KES for ST and if you like her treat her with Kuku & Chips. You maybe be able to go down 1 k, but I never did.

Hello everyone,

I posted a question some time ago about massage places in Nairobi, CBD. Received some great advice, and ultimately decided to visit Crystal Massage in Biashara Street Market Mansion on the 4th floor (Biashara st). I had a very limited window, which is why I was not more adventurous. In hindsight, I wish I had tried the Sabrina Joy pub instead. Below is a quick summary of my experience.

Made an appointment for early on a Sunday (9 am) the night before using Whatsapp. Nice and easy and fast response. Number is readily available via google search. Walked through a fairly deserted downtown, through the open entrance and up the 4 flights. There were 2 decent looking women at the front desk, and as noted in other reviews they confirmed a flat rate and a choice of providers before anything happened. They did apologize that there were limited girls working at that time, but I couldn't wait for a better selection given my limited window. Three providers introduced themselves, starting with XXL, then XL, finally with L. Candidly 3-5 / 10 in terms of looks. Not a great start, but needs must. I prefer a S / M provider but settled for the L. Doris.

The room was small and sparse but clean. Gospel music from either the church downstairs or the radio was being piped in, which made the experience kind of surreal. Fairly standard massage and then a nice sensual soft touch before a CBJ, CG, K-9 and prone into the finale. I did get the sense that at least a BBBJ was on the table, but wanted to be careful. Overall, we got the job done and was a fun experience, but I wouldn't rush to repeat.

The price. Quoted before we started (I didn't bother to haggle) was 5. 5 Ksh including the massage.

[QUOTE=CarlRoss37;2821230]Hey Drifter86,

Care to share digits in my dm? I can give her a try.[/QUOTE]I heard one of you guys is getting this tonight. Lucky bastard.

[QUOTE=Conick2000;2830262]What's the going rate out there?[/QUOTE]Anywhere from 2 k to 20 k depending on the type of girl and service anal is extra.

I know this is the Nairobi thread, but there is almost nothing here elsewhere about Kisumu. Does anyone have any recent experience there? I have to visit for work in August, and I am trying to decide if I need to bring a girl from Nairobi with me or if there are opportunities there.

If you have been to Kisumu recently (as I read on the internet that much has changed since 2020), please speak up. Perhaps a discussion by PM would be best.

THANKS!

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2832296]I know this is the Nairobi thread, but there is almost nothing here elsewhere about Kisumu. Does anyone have any recent experience there? I have to visit for work in August, and I am trying to decide if I need to bring a girl from Nairobi with me or if there are opportunities there.

If you have been to Kisumu recently (as I read on the internet that much has changed since 2020), please speak up. Perhaps a discussion by PM would be best.

THANKS![/QUOTE]Simple. It is Kenya. Chat to women at shopping malls, on the street, in a bar.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2832356]Simple. It is Kenya. Chat to women at shopping malls, on the street, in a bar.[/QUOTE]I read on the internet that most of the bars with girls (including the one strip joint) were shut down a few years ago. I work during the day, which makes the malls impractical. Meeting girls on the street.

Of course, I only need one girl each day, but if anyone knows of good bars to meet ladies in Kisumu, please let me know. THANKS.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2832421]I read on the internet that most of the bars with girls (including the one strip joint) were shut down a few years ago. I work during the day, which makes the malls impractical. Meeting girls on the street.

Of course, I only need one girl each day, but if anyone knows of good bars to meet ladies in Kisumu, please let me know. THANKS.[/QUOTE]Poor Kisumu, it never was much of a City; now it's effectively a mid / small town. Even before Covid era.

Last updates I read about the place were from Brother Neddy, from (2?) years ago.

Can't help with bars (are there even any good ones?) or street pickups. The only option that ever worked for me was chatting girls via AfroIntroductions. You have to pay to unlock the chat feature, but you can buy like one week membership, once you can msg the girls, quickly get their whatsapp and then you're golden to arrange meetups & hookups at your leisure.

We should really be sharing interesting places to socialize in the town. There are only a few nice places, easy to get bored there in less than a week.

Be warned, since Kisumu is like a small town, your Tuesday girl may see you with your Wednesday pickup -- drama could ensue.

Kisumu is smaller and more relaxed than Nairobi. For dating girls it is nothing special. What you can always do is invite one for a boda trip to Dunga, eat fish together and be confident for more.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2832923]Kisumu is smaller and more relaxed than Nairobi. For dating girls it is nothing special. What you can always do is invite one for a boda trip to Dunga, eat fish together and be confident for more.[/QUOTE]Are the hotels in Kenya (most importantly Nairobi and Kisumu) girl friendly, or do I need to ask in advance about the policy?

I have mongered world wide, and this is rarely a problem. But on my last trip to Cochabamba Bolivia, I was told no guests allowed. At 1 am in the morning! It was hard to believe (especially as I had already brought girls back to my room, but always during the day).

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2832960]Are the hotels in Kenya (most importantly Nairobi and Kisumu) girl friendly, or do I need to ask in advance about the policy?

I have mongered world wide, and this is rarely a problem. But on my last trip to Cochabamba Bolivia, I was told no guests allowed. At 1 am in the morning! It was hard to believe (especially as I had already brought girls back to my room, but always during the day).[/QUOTE]My Cochabamba hotel allowed guests, and that local girl was very good. That was so many years ago.

I don't have current info about Nairobi, but before I went there for a work trip, and there were also hotels that did not allow guests. I found this out by calling to hotels that were given to me as choices to stay, from my company.

Just call your possible future hotel, and ask what is their guest policy. Tell them that you have several girl friends in the town, to find out if they only allow one girl to register.

Even in that hotel that I chose on that trip, girls were allowed like they told me in the phone call, but later I found that not after midnight, or I had to pay a room rate for a girl to sleep. So I had to take just short time girls.

So make a phone call or contact them by email, cheaper. Don't feel shy, they are used to answer this question.

Except some familiy oriented places on the beach of Mombasa there should be no problem with a female guest. To be sure confirm before booking.

Leblon is right. I had not read his post before writing. Some hotels want an upgrade to double room if she stays over night. But the beach resorts I mentioned don't want those couples at all especially with changing girls.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2832923]Kisumu is smaller and more relaxed than Nairobi. For dating girls it is nothing special. What you can always do is invite one for a boda trip to Dunga, eat fish together and be confident for more.[/QUOTE]I've been interested in Kisumu as well.

I've not yet been, so what you'll read below is not first hand.

As there are not many wazungu in Kisimu it is actually more difficult to find girls.

There are not as many clubs as in Nairobi and Mombasa and a lot of the really nice WG have moved to Nairobi and Mombasa because they have more work there.

Best place to find girls stays Tinder, but you will have change you're location to it before going and you should not expect as many matches as in Nairobi and Mombasa. As it seems you don't have so much time, I'the say, be direct and move to Whatsapp fast to avoid possible being blocked on Tinder.

For going out, it seems like the place to go is.

Friday and Saturday "Alleyways".

Sundays "La Place".

These are regular clubs though, so you would have to smell out the working ones.

Good luck and let us know what you've learned.

[QUOTE=Leblon;2833052]

So make a phone call or contact them by email, cheaper. Don't feel shy, they are used to answer this question.[/QUOTE]Good advice, spent a few days here last month at the Boma on Red Cross Rd and was concerned it might be too conservative as it is essentially a subidiary of the Amer Red Cross. The manager said different check-ins nightly was not an issue as long as double occupancy was paid and that was good enough for me to come get my Kenya cherry popped. While there, I routinely paraded 3-4 girls daily with a different overnight each time. I'm going through girls for LTR prospects and am not F'ing all these girls; about half just some modest foreplay, a small stipend and out they go.

Current stay longer but this time at a little more upscale combined residential / hotel. I did not bother inquiring ahead but it has not crimped my habits. IDs are required so for a few I've had to walk outside to the gate and sign them in, but none have been refused. On just two occasions I commented it was for interview on a personal hire which is not exactly dishonest. Neither are "family oriented". I would be happy to tell them I will take my business elsewhere but of my grand total of two mid to upper range hotels, there have been zero issues.

As bad as things are economically here, neither of my first two picks for hotels this go were available for the period I was reserving for, maybe a divergent or parallel economy or something.

Climate is amazing in NBO this time of year and girls are amazing as well.

The dick.

Is it easy to pick up girls in the malls or from the streets? Need your opinions. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Gropai;2839729]Is it easy to pick up girls in the malls or from the streets? Need your opinions. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Reasonably. I only ever do so this way as I do not go to clubs or use tinder etc.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2839831]Reasonably. I only ever do so this way as I do not go to clubs or use tinder etc.[/QUOTE]This sounds like a great way of avoiding hardened pros. I have three questions for you Mombie:

1. what malls near the CBD would you recommend as easiest for the newbie like myself?

2. Is this OK for Mzungus, or do you only recommend for Africans or African Americans?

3. Do you just chat the girls and invite them to hang out, or do you actually offer them money while you are in the mall?

I have been using tagged and I have found it relatively easy to get girls to agree to see me for a small reward. But I do not know yet if they will really arrive at my hotel when I get to Nairobi. The mall option sounds like a good "plan B (or maybe even plan A)".

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2839926]This sounds like a great way of avoiding hardened pros. I have three questions for you Mombie:

1. what malls near the CBD would you recommend as easiest for the newbie like myself? / /.

2. Is this OK for Mzungus, or do you only recommend for Africans or African Americans? / /.

3. Do you just chat the girls and invite them to hang out, or do you actually offer them money while you are in the mall?

I have been using tagged and I have found it relatively easy to get girls to agree to see me for a small reward. But I do not know yet if they will really arrive at my hotel when I get to Nairobi. The mall option sounds like a good "plan B (or maybe even plan A)".[/QUOTE]Any of the malls. Westgate, the two on Ngong Road, Sarit centre or CBD itself. I just approach any girl I like and see any place, any time. I don't ask them right off the bat, take them for a drink and get the feel for if they are up for anything.

The online route, plenty will agree to meet but not all will turn up. Girls can be very busy hustling in Nairobi.

Also you will never know if any you meet are pros or not. Every single word they tell you will be lies.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2839926]This sounds like a great way of avoiding hardened pros. I have three questions for you Mombie:

1. what malls near the CBD would you recommend as easiest for the newbie like myself? / /.

2. Is this OK for Mzungus, or do you only recommend for Africans or African Americans? / /.

3. Do you just chat the girls and invite them to hang out, or do you actually offer them money while you are in the mall?

I have been using tagged and I have found it relatively easy to get girls to agree to see me for a small reward. But I do not know yet if they will really arrive at my hotel when I get to Nairobi. The mall option sounds like a good "plan B (or maybe even plan A)".[/QUOTE]By the way, Mombasa is the easiest place to get fast hook ups if your new to Kenya.

I applied for an eVisa, but did so rather late because my US passport did not arrive in time. If one does not have an eVisa at the time of checkin, will the airlines still permit you to travel to Nairobi? Is the immigration service there set up to let you get a visa on the spot?

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2841646]I applied for an eVisa, but did so rather late because my US passport did not arrive in time. If one does not have an eVisa at the time of checkin, will the airlines still permit you to travel to Nairobi? Is the immigration service there set up to let you get a visa on the spot?[/QUOTE]No. The airline will NOT let you board. Now eVisa is back online.

Neddy.

Any of you guys ever try any of the apportments that are postedn on AirBnB. In particular the ones in Westlands. Seems like a good deal, and girl friendly for sure, right?

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2841646]I applied for an eVisa, but did so rather late because my US passport did not arrive in time. If one does not have an eVisa at the time of checkin, will the airlines still permit you to travel to Nairobi? Is the immigration service there set up to let you get a visa on the spot?[/QUOTE]How can they let you check in if no visa (when required) is not with you? Check in is a couple of hours before departure. Do you think those 2 hrs will make a change?

It is airline responsibility to admit on board people with appropriate travel documents. If they fail, they will have to take you back with the first flight and pay a 5 k $ fine.

Depends on your nationality whether you can get a VoA.

[QUOTE=MzunguPaul;2841671]Any of you guys ever try any of the apportments that are postedn on AirBnB. In particular the ones in Westlands. Seems like a good deal, and girl friendly for sure, right?[/QUOTE]I used [URL]Booking.com[/URL] several times in Kenya and had mostly good experiences. Take those with many positive comments. Dont commit for long and in case you like it extend. Only don't leave valuables there for you can't never know who else has a key.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2841686]How can they let you check in if no visa (when required) is not with you? Check in is a couple of hours before departure. Do you think those 2 hrs will make a change?

It is airline responsibility to admit on board people with appropriate travel documents. If they fail, they will have to take you back with the first flight and pay a 5 k $ fine.

Depends on your nationality whether you can get a VoA.[/QUOTE]My visa application was submitted Saturday morning at 3 am Nairobi time and approved by 7 am EST (New York City time zone). The web site says they process visas "in real time", but I am guessing they do not work over the weekend. In short, it was very fast.

If only the US government could renew a passport in a few days!

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2841888]My visa application was submitted Saturday morning at 3 am Nairobi time and approved by 7 am EST (New York City time zone). The web site says they process visas "in real time"[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2841290]Remember the number one rule in Kenya.

Everything you are told is a lie.[/QUOTE]You were lucky, as it doesn't normally take that quick. The site was hacked few weeks ago; the executives must have (forced) the staff to work overtime to catch up the backlog.

[QUOTE=MzunguPaul;2841671]Any of you guys ever try any of the apportments that are postedn on AirBnB. In particular the ones in Westlands. Seems like a good deal, and girl friendly for sure, right?[/QUOTE]Yes, some of us have; I have. RTFF, you'll find quite a few posts about Abb. Here, this'll get ya started: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2680240#post2680240[/URL].

Abb has an option to filter listings that have a flexible cancellation feature. If you're new to (anywhere, not just Kenya) I recommend initially booking such places because if you find the place is not for you, you can leave without hassle or fee.

By definition, all private apartments are girl-friendly, as you can bring whoever you want to the place.

These make a nice combination. First, Stanley seems very GF. One simply brought the girl to reception each night and she registered. There was no guest fee as I booked for 2 people and without breakfast (I am never up in time for breakfast anyway).

I scouted Tagged and wrote to girls whom I liked. These girls were all 21-27, all happy to do GFE except one was not fond of cunnilingus. The other said she had never given a blow job. She had expert technique on her first try! Hahaha. I repeated one night with the first girl.

I was there 4 nights and my last night I was ghosted by my third girl. All girls were thin bit big firm natural breasts. As the last girl did not arrive by 10 pm, I was tapped out with sex already 5 times in 3 days plus a BBBJ (I am in my late 60's). So I had a few drinks at the bar (no obvious working girls) and went to sleep.

My second girl will meet me when I get back. She claims to be bisexual and will be bringing a friend. I am not certain how the Stanley will deal with three girls but I am optimistic.

Sorry, I never got to check out the bar or brothel scene although I did drive past a bunch of street girls near the Stanley at 11 pm.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2843783]These make a nice combination. First, Stanley seems very GF. One simply brought the girl to reception each night and she registered. There was no guest fee as I booked for 2 people and without breakfast (I am never up in time for breakfast anyway).

I scouted Tagged and wrote to girls whom I liked. These girls were all 21-27, all happy to do GFE except one was not fond of cunnilingus. The other said she had never given a blow job. She had expert technique on her first try! Hahaha. I repeated one night with the first girl.

I was there 4 nights and my last night I was ghosted by my third girl. All girls were thin bit big firm natural breasts. As the last girl did not artive by 10 pm, I was tapped out with sex already 5 times in 3 days plus a BBBJ (I am in my late 60's). So I had a few drinks at the bar (no obvioss working girls) and went to sleep.

My second girl will meet me when I get back. She claims to be bisexual and will be bringing a friend. I am not certain how the Stanley will deal with three girls but I am optimistic.

Sorry, I never got to check out the bar or brothel scene although I did drive past a bunch of street girls near the Stanley at 11 pm.[/QUOTE]In my experience, if a girl isn't fond of cunnilingus, she's either frigid as an ice cube or she never met a guy who could do it right. LOL.

Hello, I am new on these forums. Nice to meet everyone here. I am planning my next holiday (in a couple of months maybe), which will be in Nairobi. I will stay for a couple of weeks. I want to make this holiday memorable and these forums are a goldmine of information. I am reading this thread when I have some free time, saving anything noteworthy in my notes taking application. I plan on giving back by reporting on my findings.

I am predominantly interested in meeting "normal" girls through online apps or by approaching them directly. I would also like to visit some massage parlours and strip clubs.

According to what I have collected so far, there are two areas where all the fun (including the best massage parlours) are located:

1) Between CBD (which, I figured, means Central Business District) and Sarit Centre. So Westlands area.

2) Kilimani.

If I wanted to get an AirBnB in one of these areas, which area is better? Which is safer?

If you have experience with AirBnB, I will be grateful if anyone can PM me with safe / tested places to stay that are girl-friendly!

[QUOTE=AlexM8;2844493]Hello, I am new on these forums. Nice to meet everyone here. I am planning my next holiday (in a couple of months maybe), which will be in Nairobi. I will stay for a couple of weeks. I want to make this holiday memorable and these forums are a goldmine of information. I am reading this thread when I have some free time, saving anything noteworthy in my notes taking application. I plan on giving back by reporting on my findings.

I am predominantly interested in meeting "normal" girls through online apps or by approaching them directly. I would also like to visit some massage parlours and strip clubs.

According to what I have collected so far, there are two areas where all the fun (including the best massage parlours) are located:

1) Between CBD (which, I figured, means Central Business District) and Sarit Centre. So Westlands area.

2) Kilimani.

If I wanted to get an AirBnB in one of these areas, which area is better? Which is safer?

If you have experience with AirBnB, I will be grateful if anyone can PM me with safe / tested places to stay that are girl-friendly![/QUOTE]In particular, I would recommend a newbie to spend all or at least most of the time on the Mombasa North Coast (Mtwapa or Bamburi Beach). In Nairobi, mongering is much more difficult and due to the lack of sea and the environment of a dirty big city, I don't really feel like I'm on vacation.

[QUOTE=Helgi;2844643]In particular, I would recommend a newbie to spend all or at least most of the time on the Mombasa North Coast (Mtwapa or Bamburi Beach). In Nairobi, mongering is much more difficult and due to the lack of sea and the environment of a dirty big city, I don't really feel like I'm on vacation.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I will consider it, I would prefer to be near the sea. The reason I was considering Nairobi was the flight. Nairobi is 8-9 hours direct at £600-700. Mombasa seems to be 13-24 hours with one stop, and more expensive at £900-1200. I am going to thoroughly research flights and make a decision.

[QUOTE=AlexM8;2844493]Hello, I am new on these forums. Nice to meet everyone here. I am planning my next holiday (in a couple of months maybe), which will be in Nairobi. I will stay for a couple of weeks. I want to make this holiday memorable and these forums are a goldmine of information. I am reading this thread when I have some free time, saving anything noteworthy in my notes taking application. I plan on giving back by reporting on my findings.

I am predominantly interested in meeting "normal" girls through online apps or by approaching them directly. I would also like to visit some massage parlours and strip clubs.

According to what I have collected so far, there are two areas where all the fun (including the best massage parlours) are located:

1) Between CBD (which, I figured, means Central Business District) and Sarit Centre. So Westlands area.

2) Kilimani.

If I wanted to get an AirBnB in one of these areas, which area is better? Which is safer?

If you have experience with AirBnB, I will be grateful if anyone can PM me with safe / tested places to stay that are girl-friendly![/QUOTE]I use a cheap airbnb in town, it is clean and secure, around 3 k a night. I roam cbd or head out to shopping malls and just hit on anything I like, hows your luck? Easy to get to Westlands in a taxi 300 ks. Kilimani is a good area to stay as well.

I know nothing about massage parlours.

Normal girls? This is Kenya, you are never going to know what the girls does as everything they tell you will be lies.

[QUOTE=AlexM8;2844752]Thanks for the advice. I will consider it, I would prefer to be near the sea. The reason I was considering Nairobi was the flight. Nairobi is 8-9 hours direct at 600-700. Mombasa seems to be 13-24 hours with one stop, and more expensive at 900-1200. I am going to thoroughly research flights and make a decision.[/QUOTE]Get an internal flight from Nairobi to Mombasa. Kenya airways or Jambojet.

2 weeks in Nbi maybe tough going.

Everything is much easier in Mombasa, north coast areas of bamburi, nyali, shanzu and mtwapa.

[QUOTE=Helgi;2844643]In particular, I would recommend a newbie to spend all or at least most of the time on the Mombasa North Coast (Mtwapa or Bamburi Beach). In Nairobi, mongering is much more difficult and due to the lack of sea and the environment of a dirty big city, I don't really feel like I'm on vacation.[/QUOTE]Hey you just changed all my plans.

Mombasa is not as bad as I was describing it. Flight is 12 hours, cost £550-650 in September and October.

I will start from zero with my research in the Mombasa forum. Thank you my mate!

If you have any advice for AirBnB in Mombasa and you have 2 minutes, please PM me. .

[QUOTE=AlexM8;2844752]Thanks for the advice. I will consider it, I would prefer to be near the sea. The reason I was considering Nairobi was the flight. Nairobi is 8-9 hours direct at 600-700. Mombasa seems to be 13-24 hours with one stop, and more expensive at 900-1200. I am going to thoroughly research flights and make a decision.[/QUOTE]You could fly to Nairobi and take the train to Mombasa, that way you get cheap airfare, and a cheap train ride through the scenery.

[QUOTE=AlexM8;2844752]Thanks for the advice. I will consider it, I would prefer to be near the sea. The reason I was considering Nairobi was the flight. Nairobi is 8-9 hours direct at 600-700. Mombasa seems to be 13-24 hours with one stop, and more expensive at 900-1200. I am going to thoroughly research flights and make a decision.[/QUOTE]I always fly into Nairobi, but then catch a 45-minute flight to Mombasa on Kenya Airways for 60 USD. Very easy and cheap.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2844835]I always fly into Nairobi, but then catch a 45-minute flight to Mombasa on Kenya Airways for 60 USD. Very easy and cheap.[/QUOTE]That's great advice. Do you buy the tickets once you are in Nairobi? Or do you buy them in advance?

It looks like my messages need to be manually approved for now, which is why I am slow. There's another message awaiting approval where I replied to Helgi.

[QUOTE=AlexM8;2844907]That's great advice. Do you buy the tickets once you are in Nairobi? Or do you buy them in advance?

It looks like my messages need to be manually approved for now, which is why I am slow. There's another message awaiting approval where I replied to Helgi.[/QUOTE]The flights are cheaper if you buy them at least two or three weeks before. Just Google for the according Airlines and book on their websites:

(1) Kenya Airways.

(2) Jambojet.

(3) Skyward Express.

(4) Safarilink.

Just arrived in Nairobi, will put up a trip report in due course. But for now asking if viagra or similar is available in pharmacies over the counter or if I need a prescription from a doctor.

[QUOTE=TiVida;2844955]Just arrived in Nairobi, will put up a trip report in due course. But for now asking if viagra or similar is available in pharmacies over the counter or if I need a prescription from a doctor.[/QUOTE]But, I had to go to two pharmacies to get a weeks supply.

Other prescription drugs, such as ambien or valium, require doctor's prescription. It is said that some pharmacists can prescribe, but I suspect it takes a lot of hunting to find one like that.

[QUOTE=Helgi;2844923]The flights are cheaper if you buy them at least two or three weeks before. Just Google for the according Airlines and book on their websites:

(1) Kenya Airways.

(2) Jambojet.

(3) Skyward Express.

(4) Safarilink.[/QUOTE]Be aware, Safarilink and Skyward use Wilson not Jomo.

Took four days in Kisumu for work. I met a 21 year old student on Tagged prior to my visit and she came to my hotel every night after work. We usually went two rounds at night and one in the morning. She complained a bit that it was too much sex, but she liked the room service and the ambience (not to mention the money, although she never once asked for money). The first day she refused BBBJ, but she was gradually convinced by day 2. Her blow job was outstanding, and suggested that she was actually experienced. On the other hand, she absolutely loved cunnilingus (what a hypocrite!). She had a way of secreting a taste free mucous when she came that I found remarkable. On my way back to the USA, I spent the afternoon and evening with a 23 year old woman from Nairobi to whom I had made plans before arriving in Kenya to spend a few days. In the end, I did not have the time for more than a few hours. She arrived nervous as hell. We went for drinks: I had whiskey and she had orange juice. However, when it came time to preform she was wonderful- total GFE. She loved DFK and cunnilingus but did not want to give BBBJ. We went two rounds and had a nice dinner together before she pushed off. We would have done a third round but I was out of energy.

Thus, in 8 days in Nairobi and Kisumu, I identified two completely GF hotels (Sarova Stanley and Imperial). I got 4 girls from Tagged, all of whom were willing to do multiple rounds, all of whom were seriously into DFK, but none of whom wanted to give blow jobs (although 3 of 4 ultimately were fine with it). This leads me to think that Kenyan women are not into BBBJ, but are ultimately willing to compromise when they get to know you. I might add that none of the women cared one way or the other if sex were raw.

Sorry I did not get a chance to check out the bar scene and report back. I did have a chance to stroll through a mall in Kisumu to test out the idea of picking up a girl. I passed a nail salon and chatted up a really sexy 20-something who was working there. After 10 minutes or so of flirting, she was anxious to give me her number so that we could get together after work. I was quite amazed as I am not Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise and did not offer cash. Sadly, my evening was already taken. It is worth adding that several waitresses gave off an overly friendly vibe over the course of 8 days, but I never followed up with any of them.

I have spent time in Bangkok, the Dominican Republic, Brazil and the Philippines. Getting laid by 20 something "non-pros" in Kenya was the easiest in this group of monger-friendly countries. It is truly sad to be leaving so soon.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2845123]Took four days in Kisumu for work. I met a 21 year old student on Tagged prior to my visit and she came to my hotel every night after work. We usually went two rounds at night and one in the morning. She complained a bit that it was too much sex, but she liked the room service and the ambience (not to mention the money, although she never once asked for money). The first day she refused BBBJ, but she was gradually convinced by day 2. Her blow job was outstanding, and suggested that she was actually experienced. On the other hand, she absolutely loved cunnilingus (what a hypocrite!). She had a way of secreting a taste free mucous when she came that I found remarkable. On my way back to the USA, I spent the afternoon and evening with a 23 year old woman from Nairobi to whom I had made plans before arriving in Kenya to spend a few days. In the end, I did not have the time for more than a few hours. She arrived nervous as hell. We went for drinks: I had whiskey and she had orange juice. However, when it came time to preform she was wonderful- total GFE. She loved DFK and cunnilingus but did not want to give BBBJ. We went two rounds and had a nice dinner together before she pushed off. We would have done a third round but I was out of energy.

Thus, in 8 days in Nairobi and Kisumu, I identified two completely GF hotels (Sarova Stanley and Imperial). I got 4 girls from Tagged, all of whom were willing to do multiple rounds, all of whom were seriously into DFK, but none of whom wanted to give blow jobs (although 3 of 4 ultimately were fine with it). This leads me to think that Kenyan women are not into BBBJ, but are ultimately willing to compromise when they get to know you. I might add that none of the women cared one way or the other if sex were raw.

Sorry I did not get a chance to check out the bar scene and report back. I did have a chance to stroll through a mall in Kisumu to test out the idea of picking up a girl. I passed a nail salon and chatted up a really sexy 20-something who was working there. After 10 minutes or so of flirting, she was anxious to give me her number so that we could get together after work. I was quite amazed as I am not Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise and did not offer cash. Sadly, my evening was already taken. It is worth adding that several waitresses gave off an overly friendly vibe over the course of 8 days, but I never followed up with any of them.

I have spent time in Bangkok, the Dominican Republic, Brazil and the Philippines. Getting laid by 20 something "non-pros" in Kenya was the easiest in this group of monger-friendly countries. It is truly sad to be leaving so soon.[/QUOTE]Yep. Kenyan women are very approachable and almost all up for some bedroom gymnastics, some the same night but you get them all in a short space of time if you play it properly. TIA or TIK.

[QUOTE=AlexM8;2844907]That's great advice. Do you buy the tickets once you are in Nairobi? Or do you buy them in advance?

It looks like my messages need to be manually approved for now, which is why I am slow. There's another message awaiting approval where I replied to Helgi.[/QUOTE]I have the Kenya Airways app. It's cheaper if you book in advance, once you have your international ticket to Nairobi. Make sure you give yourself some wiggle room in case your international flight is delayed. I generally arrive in Nairobi in the evening, so I book my Mombasa flight on Kenyan Airways for the next morning.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2845113]But, I had to go to two pharmacies to get a weeks supply.

Other prescription drugs, such as ambien or valium, require doctor's prescription. It is said that some pharmacists can prescribe, but I suspect it takes a lot of hunting to find one like that.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this info MamaGuevos. Had no problem getting a generic Viagra in a pharmacy, 150 bob per 100 MG pill.

Trip Report.

Spent 4 nights in Nairobi and took 3 girls. Stayed at the Mvuli Suites which came up on Booking. Its GF with a security guard on the gate to check them in. Room had a small kitchen, en suite and a smart tv with Youtube and other apps on it which was handy. Wifi was just OK, dropped out sometimes but I have a 4 G sim anyway so not a major problem. Cost was 2,200 ksh per night, I booked two nights then extended for a further two. Local area has a supermarket a 3 minute walk away and a sports bar (Hacienda) with BBQ food on the menu. Its about a 20 minute walk to the CBD so I took Bolt taxis everywhere, usually about 150 ksh.

Had meant to make it to Sabina Joy but never did, Some of the reports on here of 5's and 6's put me off. Mainly focused on Tinder, Bumble and Tagged. Found Tinder easily the best of the three as Tagged has a lot of dross on it and only one photo of the girl. I did contact a couple of girls through an escort site but that was useless too as there was no face pics and when asked for pics by Whatsapp I got no reply. So Tinder the main game for me. I chased university girls 20-25 who were 7's and 8's and once matched asked if they were here for short term fun which most were even if their profile said long term only. From there exchanged numbers for Whatsapp to negotiate. Offered 4 k ST with two sessions and massage. Many wanted more, 7 k, 8 k not uncommon. Told them thanks but not for me. Probably only 25% accepted 4 k with a few asking 5 k.

Had a good time with 3 girls, the first two especially. All 3 had great slim bodies and nice tits. All 3 gave BBBJ but only one was good at it. The third was trying to get more money out of me right before the deed. Was assertive and said 4 k was the price we agreed or she could leave. Even afterwards she was asking for more which was annoying but told her no. The other two were great in bed and eager to please. Far better attitudes than what you get in Thailand these days and cheaper too.

I enjoyed Nairobi a lot and will be back in a few weeks after going to Uganda & Rwanda. So will take at least one of the girls again on my return and then I have about 30 matches on Tinder to filter through and contact for when I get back. Overall ID say Nairobi is a fun town with better looking girls than Thailand who are more eager to please. Have definitely enjoyed my first stay and looking forward to the next one in a few weeks. Will also get down to Mombasa area as well for some fun by the beaches. Thanks to all for the previous helpful reports.

Thanks for all the advice on transport between Nairobi and Mombasa.

I am moving to Mombasa's forum and will report there on my findings. It's going to be fun. Only worry would be food, as I don't eat any animal products, but it looks like there are plenty of traditional options.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2845130]Yep. Kenyan women are very approachable and almost all up for some bedroom gymnastics, some the same night but you get them all in a short space of time if you play it properly. TIA or TIK.[/QUOTE]What is TIA or TIK?

[QUOTE=HappyFarang;2846378]What is TIA or TIK?[/QUOTE]An excuse locals make when they offer poor service or something goes wrong. This Is Africa or This Is Kenya.

Be there in a couple weeks. I arrived around 3 am. I know to get a Safaricom SIM card, but it appears they will be closed.

I would prefer to hire an Uber over all the over transportation options. Should I use the airport wifi for Uber? What are the options if using a Taxi and what is a responsible fare?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny2;2847924]Be there in a couple weeks. I arrived around 3 am. I know to get a Safaricom SIM card, but it appears they will be closed.

I would prefer to hire an Uber over all the over transportation options. Should I use the airport wifi for Uber? What are the options if using a Taxi and what is a responsible fare?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I used Uber last time and summoned him using airport WiFi. The only difficulty is when you walk outside. The WiFi fades fast. So stay in until it looks like the Uber driver is nearby.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny2;2847924]Be there in a couple weeks. I arrived around 3 am. I know to get a Safaricom SIM card, but it appears they will be closed.

I would prefer to hire an Uber over all the over transportation options. Should I use the airport wifi for Uber? What are the options if using a Taxi and what is a responsible fare?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]As far as I know people bolt now a lot more than uber. There is a safaricom stall outside as you come out the arrivals hall, I think open 24 HR, they will have sim cards I imagine.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2847979]I used Uber last time and summoned him using airport WiFi. The only difficulty is when you walk outside. The WiFi fades fast. So stay in until it looks like the Uber driver is nearby.[/QUOTE]Good tip! I'll use the wifi and wait to buy a Safaricom card in the city. Thank you!

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2847982]As far as I know people bolt now a lot more than uber. There is a safaricom stall outside as you come out the arrivals hall, I think open 24 HR, they will have sim cards I imagine.[/QUOTE]Can you share where you saw it is open 24 hours? I was only able to find Safaricom at the airport closed at 9 pm.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny2;2848188]Can you share where you saw it is open 24 hours? I was only able to find Safaricom at the airport closed at 9 pm.[/QUOTE]As soon as you exit the arrivals hall you must turn right and you will see all the people standing in front of you waiting for people arriving. Behind this crowd you will see a small row of stalls. One of them will likely be open and sell sim cards. I'm not sure 24 hrs but I have always topped up my mpesa on arriving there at all sorts of hours.

So my flight got pushed up an extra two days so I'm in Nairobi wanted to know if any fellow mongers are in town and wanting to go do some exploring.

Delayed arrival, but it was still early at 5 am. The SafariCom store was open. Bought only data for $10 USD and I'm still ok because I use wifi whenever I have the chance. To this day, I haven't added anything to M-PESA or went to the ATM. I brought $200 USD with me and only recently exchanged $100 to shillings. Great exchange rate at the bank. Higher than listed online. Cards are widely accepted so that has been my go to.

I'm not a hard core monger. I've had my days. No judgement to anyone else, but I like to establish somewhat of a connection. The sex is that much more enjoyable for me.

I arrived last Friday. Got settled into my condo in Kileleshwa and took a nap. Later that night, I went to The Alchemist around 9 pm and it was extremely early for activities. I had a burger and a beer then went to the upstairs bar with some strong ass drinks. I had two old fashions and sipped slow.

I was getting bored as hell and was kinda gloom about the prospects of something happening. I had previously made an Afro account and added Tinder when I arrived, but didn't feel in the mood to really deal with that. It started filling up some downstairs around 11 pm, so I went down there. Fast forward to around midnight and a statuesque woman of 29 years arrived to the club and posted up next to me. She said it was her birthday so I bought her a drink and hung out with her. Best to get there no earlier than midnight.

We had some drinks. I had one too many. She was game to leave with me and we grabbed some food on the way out. Back to my condo and we both dozed on the couch. Woke her up. She showered and the games began. No BJ, but did go down on her. Again, I had one too many drinks and she just didn't show enough energy so junior really wasn't cooperating. I'm 51, so too much alcohol and lackluster effort from a woman equals a limp willy. I was ok at one point, but when it came time for the condom it was a no go.

The morning was better, but only because I momentarily barebacked her and when I tried to apply the condom I lost my strength. On the way out, she asked for taxi money. I gave her $20 USD, but begged for more. I gave her another $20, but this see word had the nerve to ask for $100. GTFOH. She left a bit disappointed, but still texted me later and the next day. I must have had sucker on my head.

I'm here for the month. Not going hardcore. I've had my ups and downs this week with tinder and a waitress that picked me up, but my Tinder this Friday was next level. A memory to keep forever. I'll share deets in my next post.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny2;2854796]Again, I had one too many drinks and she just didn't show enough energy so junior really wasn't cooperating. I'm 51, so too much alcohol and lackluster effort from a woman equals a limp willy. I was ok at one point, but when it came time for the condom it was a no go. The morning was better, but only because I momentarily barebacked her and when I tried to apply the condom I lost my strength.[/QUOTE]Brother, I feel you-- am also at the stage of life where if the vibe isn't or can't reach GFE (girl-friend experience), I hold off on the sex til maybe morning, and a few rare cases where I sent her off without doing anything (paying her something small, of course, for her 'time') For me I can't even get hard if it's all purely 'transactional', I don't do Pros.

(Man, remember those days, teens-20's-early-30's, just seeing 'Wow, naked lady!' was enough to get the rocket launched!).

My ways of hooking up now, so I can gauge and build up the GFE: I don't do bar / club hookups anymore, Nairoi doesn't have the primo pickup spots it did in its golden age. I don't drink much outside, maybe when in the apt, as you see it can affect performance. I now book abnbs to have very comfortable & private space (hotels were always impersonal). My big one: since nearly all my dates are thru apps, 90% of the time I make the first meetup a casual one, and usually during the daytime. It gives me & her a nice chance to size up each other thru talking, while doing something social like having a meal or walking around the area (avoid malls!) so we can decide if to move forward. And believe me, quite a few times I've canceled going further, the vibe just wasn't there.

Yeah, alot more work than in our youth, but we're at the stage of life where we don't & won't put up with the nonsense from earlier days.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny2;2854796]On the way out, she asked for taxi money. I gave her $20 USD, but begged for more. I gave her another $20, but this Cxnt had the nerve to ask for $100. GTFOH.[/QUOTE]Bravo! That's exactly how to deal with this. It's bad enough she didn't do the work to get & keep you hard; she actually thought she deserved more for doing less. Typical. Fcuk her, get out!

Best of luck on future adventures!

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2855216] My big one: since nearly all my dates are thru apps, 90% of the time I make the first meetup a casual one, and usually during the daytime. It gives me & her a nice chance to size up each other thru talking, while doing something social like having a meal or walking around the area (avoid malls!) so we can decide if to move forward. And believe me, quite a few times I've canceled going further, the vibe just wasn't there.

Yeah, alot more work than in our youth, but we're at the stage of life where we don't & won't put up with the nonsense from earlier days.
[/QUOTE]I think you gave golden advice IF a GFE type of experience is what you desire. I'm used to being around a certain caliber of woman for free. So, if I'm spending money, I'm definitely expecting not only high quality, but high effort. The apps are the way to go, but even with that said you still have to put in some work so you are not wasting your time or not getting the experience you desire. I had two different approaches to Tinder. Since I'm here for an extended stay, I was originally searching for a woman to spend the majority of my time. A short term GF of sorts, but the process and games just lead to frustration. What I know for a fact is that you are going to spend money regardless. Nothing is free here. The waitress I spent time with costs money indirectly with food, drinks, longer distance ubers. Had she not flamed out with the effort in the bedroom I sure she would have asked for money in the morning, but we did not make it that far. I instantly got rid of her.

So that next morning I woke up on a mission. I created a new Tinder, but this time I offered drinks and spending time with a subtle clue that money was involved. Once I matched, I was direct with meeting me at my apartment. I didn't even need to pay for the app. I had numerous options. I had the luxury of being picky on age, looks, and what I perceived to be a good attitude. Some of the higher quality women I could sense would be outrageously expensive and entitled, so I bypassed the 9's. I settled on a 26 year old, solid 8. She originally quoted 8 k. I countered with 7 k and she accepted. I probably could have gotten her for a bit cheaper, but I'm not tripping over $7-$14 difference. I spend my money as I wish and what is comfortable for my wallet. You cheap charlies can keep your gripes about overpaying to yourself.

She gets to my complex and I go down to sign her in. I was blown away. She was super sexy. She dressed and smelled great and her lips were so luscious I wanted to instantly maul her. I told her she even looked better than her pictures which was the truth. I made her a drink and let her watch tv while I took a shower. I took my time to have a good conversation with her while we drank for a little bit. I got myself comfortable with her and vice versa which I think led to amazing bedroom chemistry. She was true GFE. She kissed tenderly, but with urgency and passion. Our clothes came off in record time. It felt like she genuinely couldn't wait to have me. After an incredible session, we both fell asleep and upon waking went for round 2 which was longer and even more intense. I could sense that she wanted to stay the night, but I had dinner plans so I sent her on her way and gave a tip for such a great memory. One of my best and I've been doing this for a long time so that says a lot. I plan to see here again.

I also picked up a "free" date at Brew Bistro (Fortis) on Saturday. I got there about 10 pm so I could eat while I watched some american college football on my phone. There were some nice looking pros there. I noticed a lot of them go home without a customer so don't be afraid to bargain especially later in the evening. The food was ok, but nothing great. The tap beer was not good. I ignored all of them and then about midnight had my first drink and while standing on the other side of the bar, I was getting eye f*cked from across the bar. She was 30 years old. Medium height, with a nice ass and tits. She was good looking (7.5/10) and her smile showed true interest. I eventually made my way to her. We had a good conversation. We had drinks and did some dancing. I had a great time with her and it just flowed to her leaving with me a little after 2 am. She showered and the fun began. Great kissing, but she seemed somewhat reserved and at one point it felt like she was trying to play a good girl and sex was not going to be on the menu. We still had a nice make out session with naked grinding and foreplay. I was tired and a bit tipsy. We both fell asleep. In the early morning, more kissing and naked grinding, but this time she got on top and was teasing me in the most enjoying manner. She continued to get more excited and the p-slide was incredible because she was now super wet and the inevitable happened. A truly great session. Had to get a plan be in the morning. Oops!

The only damper was the ask for money to get her kid food and a little something for her mom since she stayed with me until about noon. With the drinks, her Uber home, and the cash I gave her I spent about 7 k. She said she hadn't had sex in awhile for reasons I won't get in to. There are definitely blurred lines here and I don't judge. The poverty her is immense so I have some empathy for the ladies situation. She did seem genuinely embarrassed to ask for money. It seems like p*ssy is everywhere here, but just know in the end, you always pay.

I could see myself having a great rotation here. I have almost 3 more weeks. There is a waitress at a coffee house that I'm making my way to again. My first visit she wasn't my server, but I felt the possibility to get here contact. She is about 25 years old, medium height, with a fantastic bubble. If I land this, I might wife her up the rest of my time here. Wish me luck! We all have our different approaches to the games and Nairobi is definitely a place where you can vary your approach. I just feel the best experiences are going to require some work and sometimes a bit of patience.

10 000 and she did not even stay overnight? You should be in Pattaya, africa is not for you. Love it when American weekend warriors go over and raise the expectations of the girls. Some men are just weak and like to get bossed around. I guess a selected few has a fetish for it.

Indeed Nairobi has some absolute gems if you put a bit work into it. I prefer trying my luck with waitresses or shop staff etc as I move around rather than apps or clubs.

Was it Brew in Westlands or the Brew on Ngong Road? I find the one Westlands too loud but the Ngong Road one I like.

She asked for 8 k and I countered with 7 k haha made me laugh, I would went in with 5 k and ended up with a deal at 6 k. Like you say it is not a lot and these girls have bills and are pretty hard up for the most part unless they have a regular sponsor.

[QUOTE=Tottem;2855698]10 000 and she did not even stay overnight? You should be in Pattaya, africa is not for you. Love it when American weekend warriors go over and raise the expectations of the girls. Some men are just weak and like to get bossed around. I guess a selected few has a fetish for it.[/QUOTE]Weak? I really doubt you'd say that in my face. I knew it was just a matter of time before some CLOWN had to add his. 02. I've spent months around the world. I'm in different parts of Africa now for months. I'm a boss in life! I don't have to "pay" for pussy. I pay them to leave. She wanted to stay all night and I wasn't for it. Do you f'and read? Idiot! Sorry you need hook-ups to be able to do what you do. I'm not watching your broke ass pockets so don't be concerned about what I do with my money. Faggot.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2855741]Indeed Nairobi has some absolute gems if you put a bit work into it. I prefer trying my luck with waitresses or shop staff etc as I move around rather than apps or clubs.

Was it Brew in Westlands or the Brew on Ngong Road? I find the one Westlands too loud but the Ngong Road one I like.

She asked for 8 k and I countered with 7 k haha made me laugh, I would went in with 5 k and ended up with a deal at 6 k. Like you say it is not a lot and these girls have bills and are pretty hard up for the most part unless they have a regular sponsor.[/QUOTE]6 k?, I pay 7 k. A mind blowing experience for a whopping $7 difference? I gave the guy that squirts soap and hands napkins in the bathroom at The Alchemist $20. The idiot below would never do that. Some of these people have no soul. I am sure they are miserable in life. I treat everyone well. Including 304's. I'm going to always do me regardless. A lot of people don't post anymore because some of you are just plain pathetic.

I think you need to take a trip to the Grand Bazaar and learn to haggle. Whatever they quote, offer them 25 % of that amount. Then there is room to add 10% on top if you are really desperate for the goods. Fantasizing about traveling and watching "passport bros" is not the same as doing it, you have to realize the difference.

Just because you can't get pussy within the states borders does not make you a hero when overpaying for prostitutes in Africa. It is plain sad when someone frequents this forum and tries to boost their ego by claiming "I don't need to pay for pussy". The parody of the situation could even fit and episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm". Now I have the theme tune playing in my head.

One more tip on how you know the deal made was good. They don't text or call the day after.

Sidenote 1: In a twisted mind somewhere in Nairobi "she texts and calls because of my good looks, big muscles and performance in bed".

Sidenote 2: There are scientific studies showing there is a correlation between small penis and low self-esteem.

[QUOTE=Tottem;2855698]10 000 and she did not even stay overnight? ... raise the expectations of the girls.[/QUOTE]I've had a few successful dates off Bumble, and I give them taxi money (most of them live far, up to 1 h away from Westlands) + 4 k (none asked me for anything) and they all seem happy. Mind you, I'm really generous in bed and am having much conventional success in America & Europe, even at 51.

Anyways, I had a date tonight with a really beautiful girl, super curvy, just how I like them. Very pretty face too, she's actually acted in some minor role for a tele-novella. Lovely dinner, and towards the end she gives me the speech "well, if it's to be casual, what's in it for me. " and she asks for compensation.

I tell her that I'm very open to it, what's her ask. And she replies, completely seriously, 1000 USD.

I didn't even counter. She wanted to know what I could offer, and she was "what, it's not close to 1000?

I paid her a cab back to her place and took a motorbike home, laughing out loud on the way.

Girls with a steady income stream will always go for the kill with silly money demands hoping they have hooked an idiot who will pay it. I have never heard $1000 asked for but have had a few at $2-300. I do not even bother responding to such stupidity.

I think the most I have ever paid any girl in Kenya is 5 k, that is for 1-2 hours as I never do longer. I usually pay 2-3 k.

Never bother with the dinner thing either.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2856527]Girls with a steady income stream will always go for the kill with silly money demands hoping they have hooked an idiot who will pay it. I have never heard $1000 asked for but have had a few at $2-300. I do not even bother responding to such stupidity.

I think the most I have ever paid any girl in Kenya is 5 k, that is for 1-2 hours as I never do longer. I usually pay 2-3 k.

Never bother with the dinner thing either.[/QUOTE]Right. Dinner is because I'm definitely looking for full-on GFE. I'm inviting one to hike Mt Kenya with me, and two others to come to Lamu. That kind of GFE is definitely more expensive 😅. But I understand the appeal of quick & easy too. I'll definitely be more in that mode in Mombasa region.

[QUOTE=Darwin;2856594]Right. Dinner is because I'm definitely looking for full-on GFE. I'm inviting one to hike Mt Kenya with me, and two others to come to Lamu. That kind of GFE is definitely more expensive 😅. But I understand the appeal of quick & easy too. I'll definitely be more in that mode in Mombasa region.[/QUOTE]Hiking? Most kenchicks are not used to walk 100 yards. In high Heels? They take a pikipiki wherever they go. Hiking mount Kenya? You made my day. Hahaha. Invite her for chicken dinner. That's all. Waste of money and time. Romance is a western invention 200 years ago. Unknown in Africa. Just say you want jiggi jiggi for chicken and chips dinner and transport money. Don't get complicated. These are not western spoiled brain dead #metoo women. Or why do you thing I live in Africa?

Mwalimu.

(at) AlwaysHorny2 / (at) Tottem: now-now brothers, no need to bicker. We're all in the same game, just different ways of playing, hahaha.

I don't normally but there're some rare times I've paid over-market for Casual; one time was this, it was totally worth it! [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2747306#post2747306[/URL]. If anybody finds this chick at one of the Bistros or elsewhere, let me know!

[QUOTE=Darwin;2856594]Dinner is because I'm definitely looking for full-on GFE. ... But I understand the appeal of quick & easy too.[/QUOTE]And this is it, exactly: when ya want In&Out, then 5 K and under is acceptable; for GFE, it's going to be 5 K and more, easy.

Sure it's possible to get either for 'free', but This is Kenya (TM) -- you're going to pay, one way or another, eventually.

I typically want GFE, as my visits are usually 1-3 months at a time, and I don't want the headache of going thru the pro / semi ratcatcher circuit. So my radar & focus is always on the ladies who will make nice virtual GFs -- yes, even at a price.

Guys, no offense to anyone here. But chill out. Who cares what one pays. I've paid $500 in the US for an average chick because I can and the equivalent of $40 to a super hot chick in Medellin and everything in between. It really is irrelevant. Unless you are there, each situation is different. Even with the same girl. We should be super appreciative of anyone who post real info and real experiences here as it helps everyone. PEACE.

Man, I'm literally sitting here at Mambo meat house in Kileleshwa with a sore the*ck. BTW, the food is good here.

My local "GF" of the less than a week is sexing me senseless. I have not paid ONE cent outside of the couple dates. Her sister came over to me while I was eating lunch. The sister seems to be mid thirties, but my girl is only 25. Last night, her other married sister hosted at their home and they cooked for me. Afterwards my "GF" came back with me and I really wasn't looking for it to be honest because we screwed like crazy the previous night. She says she only had one boyfriend and had not dated for a long time.

These are not poor Kenyans. The family has a nice home in a gated community. The husband grilled me lightly on my visit and plans. I do have some serious thoughts of buying a condo here. I know I'm being set for the long game. I only have a couple weeks before heading to Kampala and I don't mind chilling with her. She is super sweet and can't stop kissing me. The only problem is getting her to leave in the morning which is stretching past noon now.

My point in all of this is that there are all kinds of ways to get sex in Kenya. From the fine waitresses at Art Caffe on Kimanthi that I will not get to smash now, to randoms everywhere you go, I see no reason for anyone to have problems. I could easily post WhatsApp receipts, but I don't feel the need to prove myself. I'm not here to argue with sad men. I highly recommend anyone who is on the fence to visit Nairobi!

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny2;2857752]Man, I'm literally sitting here at Mambo meat house in Kileleshwa with a sore the*ck. BTW, the food is good here.

My local "GF" of the less than a week is sexing me senseless. I have not paid ONE cent outside of the couple dates. Her sister came over to me while I was eating lunch. The sister seems to be mid thirties, but my girl is only 25. Last night, her other married sister hosted at their home and they cooked for me. Afterwards my "GF" came back with me and I really wasn't looking for it to be honest because we screwed like crazy the previous night. She says she only had one boyfriend and had not dated for a long time.

These are not poor Kenyans. The family has a nice home in a gated community. The husband grilled me lightly on my visit and plans. I do have some serious thoughts of buying a condo here. I know I'm being set for the long game. I only have a couple weeks before heading to Kampala and I don't mind chilling with her. She is super sweet and can't stop kissing me. The only problem is getting her to leave in the morning which is stretching past noon now.

My point in all of this is that there are all kinds of ways to get sex in Kenya. From the fine waitresses at Art Caffe on Kimanthi that I will not get to smash now, to randoms everywhere you go, I see no reason for anyone to have problems. I could easily post WhatsApp receipts, but I don't feel the need to prove myself. I'm not here to argue with sad men. I highly recommend anyone who is on the fence to visit Nairobi![/QUOTE]Well. You're husband material. What do you expect. Sperm donor. We all know that you can get all the pussy you ever wanted. However. Strings attached. The African woman makes sure that the husband never leaves the house hungry or horny.

Mwalimu.

Who who will remain happy single. Too much to taste. I'll be busy in the foreseeable future. But there's rules. The 10 commandments. And to pay. Well that comes later.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2857765]Well. You're husband material. What do you expect. Sperm donor. We all know that you can get all the pussy you ever wanted. However. Strings attached. The African woman makes sure that the husband never leaves the house hungry or horny.

Mwalimu.

Who who will remain happy single. Too much to taste. I'll be busy in the foreseeable future. But there's rules. The 10 commandments. And to pay. Well that comes later.[/QUOTE]Just how much is it for a late evening and all night sesh these days in nairobi. With the kes struggling is 4/5 k still acceptable. I am in town for 2 weeks in November.

One chick quoted 30 k. I laughed so hard. If I want to get a dildo up my ass with no lube, I will just go to London, have a "date" with a 38+ over weight chick.

And drop 92 GBP on a dinner in London bridge.

[QUOTE=SeanBenz;2857889]Just how much is it for a late evening and all night sesh these days in nairobi. With the kes struggling is 4/5 k still acceptable. I am in town for 2 weeks in November.

One chick quoted 30 k. I laughed so hard. If I want to get a dildo up my ass with no lube, I will just go to London, have a "date" with a 38+ over weight chick.

And drop 92 GBP on a dinner in London bridge.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of women in Nai who have regular income from men or sponsors and with a bit if hustle on the side do quite well. They will ask for stupid amounts like 30 k as they hope to hook an idiot who will pay it as they are not fussed on meeting.

You pay more in Nai than Mombasa, I don't go over 5 k but I only meet for an hour or two, no interest in over nights.

I will fly into Nairobi next month, very early morning, and want to take train (08:00) to Mombasa. Trying to buy ticket on Kenyan railways web site does not offer a suitable payment option for me, so I consider buying train ticket directly in railway station.

Having bad expirience from India, about several hours of waiting in queue, I have to ask: Is it easy to buy train ticket in Nairobi "on the spot" ? No long queue?

And, any cheaper option than (Uber ?) taxi to go from Airport to train station in Nairobi ?

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2858651]I will fly into Nairobi next month, very early morning, and want to take train (08:00) to Mombasa. Trying to buy ticket on Kenyan railways web site does not offer a suitable payment option for me, so I consider buying train ticket directly in railway station.

Having bad expirience from India, about several hours of waiting in queue, I have to ask: Is it easy to buy train ticket in Nairobi "on the spot" ? No long queue?

And, any cheaper option than (Uber ?) taxi to go from Airport to train station in Nairobi ?[/QUOTE]Get mpesa first in Nairobi. I personally wouldn't stress myself going straight to the train station from the airport. Usually there's free seats. At least first class seems to be never fully booked. Economy it can happen to be sold out in weekends or holidays. Seats are limited. You can reserve and pay online with mpesa. At the train station arrive at least 1. 5 hours before. There's self service ticket printing machines where you print out your actual ticket. The security is a joke. They have dog handlers. 2 scanners. Worse than any airline. They took my Swiss folding knife. Morons. And on top of that. Immigration checked for illegal white immigrants. Yeah sure. I'm getting tired of the antics. As much as I like the train ride. I just might fly this time. Pain in de ass. Cheaper option. Public bus. Or Bolt.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2858651]I will fly into Nairobi next month, very early morning, and want to take train (08:00) to Mombasa. Trying to buy ticket on Kenyan railways web site does not offer a suitable payment option for me, so I consider buying train ticket directly in railway station.

Having bad expirience from India, about several hours of waiting in queue, I have to ask: Is it easy to buy train ticket in Nairobi "on the spot" ? No long queue?

And, any cheaper option than (Uber ?) taxi to go from Airport to train station in Nairobi ?[/QUOTE]Impossible to buy a ticket from outside the country, you had the same issue.

The best is to buy a local sim card just outside the airport and then open a mpesa account, the you can book online. But if you want to go from airport to train it will be too short to create the mpesa.

Otherwise you need to buy the ticket at the train station, I didn't saw any queue there, most people use mpesa, but could depends on the hour when you arrive.

Train station is quite close to airport so the best is to stick to a regular taxi I guess. After you can use bolt or Uber.

Don't confuse the old train station inside Nairobi, the train for Mombasa is in the new one on the airport side.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2858651]I will fly into Nairobi next month, very early morning, and want to take train (08:00) to Mombasa. Trying to buy ticket on Kenyan railways web site does not offer a suitable payment option for me, so I consider buying train ticket directly in railway station.

Having bad experience from India, about several hours of waiting in queue, I have to ask: Is it easy to buy train ticket in Nairobi "on the spot" ? No long queue?

And, any cheaper option than (Uber ?) taxi to go from Airport to train station in Nairobi ?[/QUOTE]Uber or Bolt is your best option from JKIA to Train. If you want cheaper than the few hundred shillings it will cost then things must be bad, really?

If you get a ticket on the day it is likely first class will be sold out but economy should be available. Queues should not be okay.

With Safaricom Madarakatrain booking can be done by *639# and Payment with MPESA. Bolt has often an edge over Uber in Kenya. Other taxis are lore expensive. Matatu is cheaper. By food is cheapest.

By the way it is not a good idea to arrive by plan at Jomo Kenyatta airport and then continue by train to Mombasa a few hours later. I'd go by Jumbojet and avoid all the checking in again which at the train station resembles an airport with the obbligation to be there 2 hours before departure and security checks.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2858692]With Safaricom Madarakatrain booking can be done by *639# and Payment with MPESA. Bolt has often an edge over Uber in Kenya. Other taxis are lore expensive. Matatu is cheaper. By food is cheapest.[/QUOTE]Please, advise, how to pay MPESA from Germany, not having Kenyan phone number.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2858729]Please, advise, how to pay MPESA from Germany, not having Kenyan phone number.[/QUOTE]Not possible.

Or I don't see how. Mpesa is a Safari com service, they request a safaricom sim to work, so you need to be in Kenya to use mpesa.

Not possible to buy madakara train tickets from outside country or via travel agencies maybe.

Mpesa can be obtained at the airport but for the reason below I advise you not to take the train at all and at 8 am when you are looking there is no departure, only at 3 pm.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2858746] at 8 am when you are looking there is no departure[/QUOTE]Sorry, but metickets dot krc dot co dot ke shows the Inter County Train 08: AM.

When arriving 03:00 in Nairobi, plenty of time. I enjoy sightseeing from train.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2858761]Sorry, but metickets dot krc dot co dot ke shows the Inter County Train 08: AM.

When arriving 03:00 in Nairobi, plenty of time. I enjoy sightseeing from train.[/QUOTE]There is a daily 8 am departure from Nbo to Msa.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2858729]Please, advise, how to pay MPESA from Germany, not having Kenyan phone number.[/QUOTE]You can use for example World Remit. I don't know if you need to register or not, I have registered, I have account in World Remit, easy to create, for free.

You choose Kenia as destination, then you choose Mobile Money as way to delivery, that is Mpesa.

Then you add reveiver name and number, Mpesa account is same as phone number.

Then it asks your credit card number etc. Normal electric payment procedure.

You don't need to have Safaricom sim card or anything in Kenya. I have delivered money several times to Kenya this way.

I have seen with Western Union that they have also some "Mobile Wallet" as one way to deliver, when you choose Kenya as destination. But I have never tried that, probably work same way.

[QUOTE=Leblon;2858936]You can use for example World Remit. I don't know if you need to register or not, I have registered, I have account in World Remit, easy to create, for free.

You choose Kenia as destination, then you choose Mobile Money as way to delivery, that is Mpesa.

Then you add reveiver name and number, Mpesa account is same as phone number.

Then it asks your credit card number etc. Normal electric payment procedure.

You don't need to have Safaricom sim card or anything in Kenya. I have delivered money several times to Kenya this way.

I have seen with Western Union that they have also some "Mobile Wallet" as one way to deliver, when you choose Kenya as destination. But I have never tried that, probably work same way.[/QUOTE]This is a Paybill number. That means it's used to pay bills with mPesa. You can use World remit only to transfer money to a mobile phone number. NOT a Paybill number. So it is NOT possible to pay your train ticket with World Remit. In order to pay a Kenya railways Ticket you need a valid mPesa mobile money account. Easiest is after you arrive in Yomo Kenyatta take a Bolt to the train station. First class is almost never full. Pay cash.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2858729]Please, advise, how to pay MPESA from Germany, not having Kenyan phone number.[/QUOTE]Why would you need to?

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2858729]Please, advise, how to pay MPESA from Germany, not having Kenyan phone number.[/QUOTE]Another vote for world remit. Easy breezy.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2859545]Another vote for world remit. Easy breezy.[/QUOTE]I use Wise first, World Remit and Remitly as back ups in Kenya.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2856527]Girls with a steady income stream will always go for the kill with silly money demands hoping they have hooked an idiot who will pay it. I have never heard $1000 asked for but have had a few at $2-300. I do not even bother responding to such stupidity.

I think the most I have ever paid any girl in Kenya is 5 k, that is for 1-2 hours as I never do longer. I usually pay 2-3 k.

Never bother with the dinner thing either.[/QUOTE]I never go over 2 K, and most of the time it's 1500 KES. That includes public transportation, I don't pay for car service, only sometimes when it rains, and she is in the rotation and if I like her enough to do something together. Such as the last time when we went together to the elephant orphanage. I don't get it, but some of my girls didn't have umbrellas, and they were worried that if heir head becomes wet they get sick. Therefore, they didn't take public transportation, so I just let them use a car service. I ended up buying them umbrellas, and now they are using them. I only have Luhya girls, I find them the most humble girls. The most financially humble girls, I should say. Didn't have good experience with Luo girls, I find them suffering from superiority complex or some form of feminist thinking. I also like to take my Luhya girls for a kuku and chips sometimes or white coffee, samosa etc. After, so that adds up another 1 k. I don't care about "high class" girls, I avoid them like a plaque. I did it once, and she was worse than a white feminist *.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2861907]I never go over 2 K, and most of the time it's 1500 KES. That includes public transportation, ...... I don't care about "high class" girls, I avoid them like a plaque. I did it once, and she was worse than a white feminist *.[/QUOTE]I think that's about right especially if this is a repeat girl. I will only pay for transport if I don't want to wait a million years for her to arrive. Those matatus are hit or miss. She will start to get 1000 kes flat. As for those "high class" creatures of brew bistro they can stay right where they are. I don't know about you fellas but as a gen x coming from the west I find it very easy to find women in nbo. If one doesn't want to play ball there are a million behind them. They know it too. The only time I will go slightly above is if I come across a girl that's exactly my type. And still no more than like 3 k. I know girls who have wazungus sending them 100 usd+ from overseas. I have seen the transfers. Just ridiculous.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2861907]I never go over 2 K, and most of the time it's 1500 KES. That includes public transportation, I don't pay for car service, only sometimes when it rains, and she is in the rotation and if I like her enough to do something together. Such as the last time when we went together to the elephant orphanage. I don't get it, but some of my girls didn't have umbrellas, and they were worried that if heir head becomes wet they get sick. Therefore, they didn't take public transportation, so I just let them use a car service. I ended up buying them umbrellas, and now they are using them. I only have Luhya girls, I find them the most humble girls. The most financially humble girls, I should say. Didn't have good experience with Luo girls, I find them suffering from superiority complex or some form of feminist thinking. I also like to take my Luhya girls for a kuku and chips sometimes or white coffee, samosa etc. After, so that adds up another 1 k. I don't care about "high class" girls, I avoid them like a plaque. I did it once, and she was worse than a white feminist *.[/QUOTE]How do you identify the ones who are Luhya? Do you just ask girls until you stumble across one, or is there an easier way? I can't differentiate Kenyan girls by tribe just by looking at them.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2861950]How do you identify the ones who are Luhya? Do you just ask girls until you stumble across one, or is there an easier way? I can't differentiate Kenyan girls by tribe just by looking at them.[/QUOTE]I find it hard to tell the difference too. They can tell tho. All the girls tend to have huge forheads but IMHO Kikuyus suffer from this the most.

If you know the last name Luo last names typically start with "O" for example Obama, Odinga.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2861950]How do you identify the ones who are Luhya? Do you just ask girls until you stumble across one, or is there an easier way? I can't differentiate Kenyan girls by tribe just by looking at them.[/QUOTE]I have been in Kenya 20 years. You can get an idea from looks and demeanor but it is not failsafe and as Kenyans always lie. If you know some sentences / dialect from language then you can know for sure. Ie some pronounce an are as an l. Heavy boned, probably a luo)) slim and darker move up to northern tribes. I know some Kamba so can usually nail them easily.

Comes down to experience and if you have an interest in picking up local bits of culture.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2861950]How do you identify the ones who are Luhya? Do you just ask girls until you stumble across one, or is there an easier way? I can't differentiate Kenyan girls by tribe just by looking at them.[/QUOTE]Don't over complicate things here. Just ask. I make it a sports though to guess. I can nail Ethiopians or Somalis quite easy. As one of my 10 commandments is no close relationship it's a non issue. On coast you find usually all tribes as many are looking for "work". Most don't find work so they sell pussy. I like kenyan tourist pussy though. More affluent people come from Nairobi. Since the Madaraka express a lot of people come just for the weekend as coast is still cheaper. I collect tribes and subtribes. I sampled most tribes. There's a lot of mixes too. I had a Turkana / Digo mix. Generally there's more conservative tribes like Kikuyu or Kambas. The loosest are Luo and Luhya where polygamy is the norm. So fucking around is perfectly normal.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2861950]How do you identify the ones who are Luhya? Do you just ask girls until you stumble across one, or is there an easier way? I can't differentiate Kenyan girls by tribe just by looking at them.[/QUOTE]I lived the last two years dead center in Luhya country. Kenyans know a person's tribe by their names. They all think they can tell which tribe people are from by their actions and appearance but they are often wrong. I can't tell the difference between Luo (Kisumu) Kalenjin (Eldoret), Kikuyu, Luhya, Embu, Meru or even Maasai if they are not in traditional clothing. I don't know if the person is from Uganda, Congo or Tanzania either by their appearance. Bantu look the same and anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. There are some tribes in the north and in the east who are distinguishable as well as South Sudanese refugees who are 6-1/2 ft tall and thin. All you need to know is if a Kenyan is talking, they're telling you a lie. And asking for money. If you want a relationship, go to Uganda or even Tanzania.

Hi mongers, below is a report for Nairobi, and all activities are around first week of October 2023.

I have separated the narrative into sections, detailing what where and price as best as I remember.

Using info from this site, I set out to look for massage within CBD and vicinity, with saving time being most important on my list. First, I checked the massage place at at Dev towers (Not sure of the Spa name, there was La Celeb and Jephers) but it's the one on 6th floor. Location is 21 Biashara street, and it's a 6 level building with brick exterior, it spans Biashara street and Tubman roads.

In the past they had 4 massage businesses in that building, but lately the only that I know is the one on 6th floor. The lift never works, so it's quite a work-out climbing the stairs to 6th floor. When I went there, the selection was 7 ladies looks about 6-8 and you pick the girl that you want. Massage only is 3 k and then the extra depends on what you negotiate with the girl. Extra is CBJ, HJ, full service. I opted for massage and full service and total was 5 k. I don't remember the names of the girls, but in any case they change the names that they give to clients. They accept both cash or Mpesa with Paybill number. Overall service was okay, a 7 out of 10.

Crystal Spa: It's located a few buildings down Biashara street from Dev towers (Market Mansion, a white building at 33 Biashara street) Massage place is on 4th floor, and to be clear there are other beauty and spas in the bulding, some are open door with female customers, and they did not advertise massage (I assume these are salons etc). At Crystal, there is a madam at reception and a locked door behind her. I was brought the line up, 8 girls in total. I chose Kiki, slim girl, and I made sure to note the color of her dress, and shape / size making it easier for their madam to call for you the right girl. She did great massage; full service was about okay and overall experience was 8 out of 10 for me. Damage was 4. 5 K paid via Mpesa, and I tipped her 500. Interesting fact, they have a pay-bill number and have posted warnings in the room not to give ask the girls for their numbers, and for you as the customer not to be harassed by the girls to give them your number. In the same building there is a massage parlour called " Pals Lounge" I did not try it, but they have a placard on the front of the building.

Pucolin Spa: It's in Westlands, at 15 Westlands road. It's in a residential 4 floor courtyard building, next to Nairobi Technical institute and opposite the gate for Graffins college. This was by far my best experience. There is a placard at the gate for the spa, with a phone number written. There is a security guard at the gate, but he did not ask any questions, and if coming by Uber, they can drive into the compound and drop you off in the courtyard. The Spa is inside the first building on your left from the gate, and there is a placard at the entry. The madam came and explained that massage was 3. 5 K, extras are up to you to negotiate with the girl. Again, the lineup was sent in of 8 women in total looks about 5-8. Cuter and more relaxed than those at CBD spas. I picked ' Sharon ' she was the youngest looking and seemed to have a nice attitude. She came in and asked what I wanted. I replied full service, she quoted 2. 5 K, bargained down to 2 K. She said that she mostly gets asked to do HJ and covered BJ. She said she is 21 years old, and that could be true, perk up tits, narrow waist, flat tummy, body is tight, no kids and she got down to work. Massage was like 45 minutes, followed by FS. I ended up giving her the extra 500 anyway. I paid cash there, not sure if they take Mpesa, you can ask. It's an older residential flat, with ensuite bedrooms (4) well maintained. In the same building across the door was another Massage spa (Nokay Parlour) but I never tried them.

City Spa: Located at Jubilee House, on Muindi Mbingu street, opposite Jenanjee park. Its next to " House of Leather" and it's a red building, you walk up one level. Place is quite run down, and the madam is a hustler. She came into the room and said she will choose a girl for me. I insisted that I want to see the line up and pick one myself, she asked why I didn't trust her choice, and I said send them in and I pick. A total of 8 girls showed up, and I picked one " Aisha" who had a coast accent. The madam came back and said that she was unavailable because she was waiting for a client. I was sent another girl, I don't remember her name, slim and light skinned. Madam had stated clearly that 3. 5 K was the house fee for massage, extra you negotiate with the girl. This light skinned girl quoted 7 K. I asked for what, she said "any extra". At this point I asked her what about the house fee, she said that was separate. I said no way, and she was willing to come down to 4 K for herself plus house fee. At this point I left the room and went to reception and told madam I was going to leave. The light skinned girl came to reception too, and then said she can come do the massage for reduced 3 K only, then extra I get another girl. I refused because I don't see how once the massage is done, and I'm hard, then another girl is going to come in and we negotiate. My gut feeling was that this girl was not really into full service, and di not care for the extra money, or maybe some beef with the madam, or house etc. At this point the girl from coast was called in, and she agreed.

To do massage and extra total fee 6 K. Although I did not hear explicitly at the beginning, the only problem was she did not commit to sex at the beginning, but she guaranteed satisfaction, and in Swahili gave the impression that she was good for the job. No more talk of she was waiting for another client. Her looks were about 8 out of 10, attitude a 9. Once she undressed, I would give her mid to upper 20's, well maintained body. Her massage was 8 out of 10, with lots of body rubbing, naked and hit all the right areas. Then the surprise came when I said that I was satisfied with the massage. She did not get a rubber as I'm used to. She rubbed my balls with her hands a bit, then started doing a BBBJ. I asked her what was going on, and she said that its how she was going to satisfy me. Not sure the reason not to have sex, she did not explain. As it happens the BJ got me popping pretty soon. She agreed to be paid via Mpesa, and she told me that now since I have her number I can 'book' her next time I'm coming to the place. Her name for Mpesa is not what she had given at the intro, but that is common. She insisted she was the only coastarian at the Spa, and anyone coming should ask for her. My take of the place was poorly maintained spa, terms not clear at all, double-speak etc. From what I could tell girls do give clients numbers and either get booked or maybe service outside? For context I'm black male, was born and raised in Kenya, fluent in Swahili, some sheng, and I use Swahili in all these transactions, so quite unlikely that they were trying to take advantage of a tourist / naive guy.

On a side note, I have heard the phrase action at ' Kabarnet Gardens' by locals on social media etc. Can someone with experience point out any spas or parlours in that area? On Google maps there is Kabarnet road, off Ngong road, and there are some businesses advertising massage amongst beauty etc. In Nairobi my sense is that whether full body massage plus extras are offered, is a discretion of the business, and mongers know or point out where to look.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2858991]This is a Paybill number. That means it's used to pay bills with mPesa. You can use World remit only to transfer money to a mobile phone number. NOT a Paybill number. So it is NOT possible to pay your train ticket with World Remit. In order to pay a Kenya railways Ticket you need a valid mPesa mobile money account. Easiest is after you arrive in Yomo Kenyatta take a Bolt to the train station. First class is almost never full. Pay cash.

Mwalimu.[/QUOTE]Here's my. 02 contribution. I have Mpesa app on my phone. I have eSim on my phone, with Safaricom, Airtel and my local USA numbers on the Esim platform. I'm able to transact from the Mpesa App on wifi anywhere. Every few months I turn 'ON' the Safaricom line via e-sim and buy some airtime to keep the line open. I have done this for about 2 years. To be clear the initial Mpesa activation was at a Safaricom shop when they activated my e-sim. Another thing with the train is that you have to submit a form of ID either local Kenyan ID card or passport when buying the ticket in person, and when boarding the train.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2862225]I lived the last two years dead center in Luhya country. Kenyans know a person's tribe by their names. They all think they can tell which tribe people are from by their actions and appearance but they are often wrong. I can't tell the difference between Luo (Kisumu) Kalenjin (Eldoret), Kikuyu, Luhya, Embu, Meru or even Maasai if they are not in traditional clothing. I don't know if the person is from Uganda, Congo or Tanzania either by their appearance. Bantu look the same and anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. There are some tribes in the north and in the east who are distinguishable as well as South Sudanese refugees who are 6-1/2 ft tall and thin. All you need to know is if a Kenyan is talking, they're telling you a lie. And asking for money. If you want a relationship, go to Uganda or even Tanzania.[/QUOTE]Yup. Ethiopians, somali and south sudanese look different. Outside of that I can't tell. The locals say they can I just take their word for it.

[QUOTE=LynnMan;2862372]Hi mongers, below is a report for Nairobi, and all activities are around first week of October 2023.

I have separated the narrative into sections, detailing what where and price as best as I remember.
[/QUOTE]Great report on massage spots in NBO. I have never visited any because lets face it. Girls in NBO are very willing to drop panties. I may check some of these spots out tho. Sometimes one doesn't want to do the song and dance.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2862225]I lived the last two years dead center in Luhya country. Kenyans know a person's tribe by their names. They all think they can tell which tribe people are from by their actions and appearance but they are often wrong. I can't tell the difference between Luo (Kisumu) Kalenjin (Eldoret), Kikuyu, Luhya, Embu, Meru or even Maasai if they are not in traditional clothing. I don't know if the person is from Uganda, Congo or Tanzania either by their appearance. Bantu look the same and anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. There are some tribes in the north and in the east who are distinguishable as well as South Sudanese refugees who are 6-1/2 ft tall and thin. All you need to know is if a Kenyan is talking, they're telling you a lie. And asking for money. If you want a relationship, go to Uganda or even Tanzania.[/QUOTE]What made you move to Luhya country and how was your experience living there. Prices must be way less including pussy. Are you living in Kakamega? I'm thinking about giving it a try. Not always, but more often than not I can tell a Luhya from a Luo. They have slightly different curves and personalizes. Also, Luo girls are often more confident and self-assured. That's my limited experience.

I took a break from online activities and checked on Biashara 21,33 and WestlandsR 15 mentioned in the usefull report below. In the later there was a nice one at the reception leading me immediately to a massage table naming 3 K for Swedish. No lineup. I wanted to see the other places and girls first so I left for B21. There was a lineup of 6-7 girls wearing sexy dresses appearing one after another saying her name, smiling and leaving. They were looking only average and the final one was the oldest. She asked which one I take and I replied none for the moment due to demanding 4 K for 1 hour classical and the not too attractive appearances. At B33 when looking for the signpost on the street the female askari asked if I want to buy something in the liquor shop. I said no and got the answer 'So you look for massage' At once she was assisted by the male askari telling me I should take the number of the female collegue because she can massage well. A bit intimitated by such directness I did not go up and left.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2863725]I took a break from online activities and checked on Biashara 21,33 and WestlandsR 15 mentioned in the usefull report below. In the later there was a nice one at the reception leading me immediately to a massage table naming 3 K for Swedish. No lineup. I wanted to see the other places and girls first so I left for B21. There was a lineup of 6-7 girls wearing sexy dresses appearing one after another saying her name, smiling and leaving. They were looking only average and the final one was the oldest. She asked which one I take and I replied none for the moment due to demanding 4 K for 1 hour classical and the not too attractive appearances. At B33 when looking for the signpost on the street the female askari asked if I want to buy something in the liquor shop. I said no and got the answer 'So you look for massage' At once she was assisted by the male askari telling me I should take the number of the female collegue because she can massage well. A bit intimitated by such directness I did not go up and left.[/QUOTE]Hi guys. New guy here came across this site few days ago but it's been giving me alot of crap trying to register. But I like the convos here. Let me just add my little input.

First time visiting Kenya was in August this year. Before landing I've been talking to some few women I met on bumble and tinder. Met them for dinner and clubbing but wasn't impressed at all. It was normal and boring.

I wanted something exciting, kink something that gives me a rush. I decided to check out escorts. I needed great company as I was there for about 5 weeks.

Long story short after hours of looking at profiles and photos I came across this profile on a website called massage republic. The bio itself is really interesting and made me very curious. The escort is called Katrina, she's rwandese or something.

I gave her a call and she was super friendly and made me understand what she offers.

Had a GFE the next day and later to my room. That was exactly exactly what I was looking for. Everything was incredible. Her vibe and she's very educated and I was surprised she has a degree. Her rates were alittle higher than the normal Kenyan girls but I'd say it was worth it. I paid $200 for 4 hours but the only disadvantage is she doesn't spend the nights. I saw her around 3 times during my whole stay. Very worth it I'd say.

Oh and I also got a world class massage that was included. So I guess it was a pretty good deal.

[QUOTE=RoamingSub;2864397]Hi guys. New guy here came across this site few days ago but it's been giving me alot of crap trying to register. But I like the convos here. Let me just add my little input.

First time visiting Kenya was in August this year. Before landing I've been talking to some few women I met on bumble and tinder. Met them for dinner and clubbing but wasn't impressed at all. It was normal and boring.

I wanted something exciting, kink something that gives me a rush. I decided to check out escorts. I needed great company as I was there for about 5 weeks.

Long story short after hours of looking at profiles and photos I came across this profile on a website called massage republic. The bio itself is really interesting and made me very curious. The escort is called Katrina, she's rwandese or something.

I gave her a call and she was super friendly and made me understand what she offers.

Had a GFE the next day and later to my room. That was exactly exactly what I was looking for. Everything was incredible. Her vibe and she's very educated and I was surprised she has a degree. Her rates were alittle higher than the normal Kenyan girls but I'd say it was worth it. I paid $200 for 4 hours but the only disadvantage is she doesn't spend the nights. I saw her around 3 times during my whole stay. Very worth it I'd say.

Oh and I also got a world class massage that was included. So I guess it was a pretty good deal.[/QUOTE]200 usd, and she didn't do overnight!! To each their own butttt goddamn folks like you be messing the market up!!

[QUOTE=SeanBenz;2864569]200 usd, and she didn't do overnight!! To each their own butttt goddamn folks like you be messing the market up!![/QUOTE]It was worth every penny though. She had lower rates for other services but what I wanted cost me 200 bucks. Plus dinner of course.

[QUOTE=RoamingSub;2864626]It was worth every penny though. She had lower rates for other services but what I wanted cost me 200 bucks. Plus dinner of course.[/QUOTE]$200 for a woman in Kenya, fcuking brain dead ridiculous.

[QUOTE=RoamingSub;2864626]It was worth every penny though. She had lower rates for other services but what I wanted cost me 200 bucks. Plus dinner of course.[/QUOTE]Fair play fella. I won't ask anything further.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2864666]$200 for a woman in Kenya, fcuking brain dead ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Hey. She was educated and had a degree. LOL. Only a tourist can be that dumb.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2864666]$200 for a woman in Kenya, fcuking brain dead ridiculous.[/QUOTE]That's about 30,000 KES. 2 months salary for many Kenyans.

I think it's clear that RoamingSub is just advertising that woman. First post ever on this forum, and he lists an escort by name and includes the site on which she advertises. I don't think anyone here is foolish enough to throw $200 on pussy in Kenya. What an absolute moron. No one will care to see you and your "educated" pussy. Why do I even care if a lady has a degree? Am I having some sort of philosophical debate while I am railing her from the back?

You've done a terrible job at advertising, and the evidence is all the guys on this thread laughing at you.

200 dollars for 4 hours is unbelievable.

I encounter a lot of women who want a high price, for example a girl on Tinder wanted 15,000 shillings, after that I lowered her to 2,000, she said 4,000, then I said 2,500 including taxi and food, and she agreed to 3,000 shillings.

And that's a price per night!

I'm sure I could have gotten it cheaper.

Understand, 2,000 is a lot for them, and they also love sex! Yes yes, African women love sex! So I suggest next time not to pay much. Even 6,000 is a lot!

Finally after running the COVID gauntlet. I kiss sweet mother earth. Mama Africa. The first Ginger tea with lemon and honey tasted like heaven. Finally touch down in Kenya. There's light and shadow. The government tries it's best to chase away the last remaining tourists. I was in the LAST authentic African joint in CBD. Sabina Joy. I cried tears of joy. And yes. I'm not ashamed to say that. Champions league was on. The selector was at its best selecting my favorite times. Uganda happy reggae. Bongo flava. Dance hall. If you don't have a hearing damage after that experience. Fat ass hookers and I mean FAT shove their ways through the crowds watching like under a spell football. I sipped on my White Cap baridi. Pure Bliss.

Did I take pussy? No. That's just a warm up. As usual I'm the only white man. But as I'm African no difference. Kweli Kabisa. The light. It's unbelievable cheap if you have euros or dollars. The shilling is in free fall. The shadow. Dumb government policy. Long power cuts. In CBD Nairobi. I had less power cuts in Antananarivo. Internet. Either lightning fast. Or non existent. Crazy. They have a problem with infrastructure. A serious one. In any case TIK. Like it or run away screaming. Where to? To LGBTQI+PRISON? NFW. Here you're alive. Pussy? There's everywhere you walk. On every street corner. Like my Sansibari friend said. They're like coca cola.

Power went out AGAIN. So no idea if I ever can send that report.

In any case.

Young or old man Go to Africa! The last frontier. Last place on earth where a man can be a man.

Mwalimu.

[URL]https://youtu.be/mVyztZXPFCQ?si=sEbbdFc8-iSODXdh[/URL]

Karibu Nairobi.

Did they search your luggage at Jomo when you arrived?

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2868328]Karibu Nairobi.

Did they search your luggage at Jomo when you arrived?[/QUOTE]No. What they do is. All luggage which is in the hold is scanned before it lands on the carousel. They can see apparently if it's new or used mobile phones for example. Suspicious baggage is marked with white crosses. These are opened. Hand luggage is scanned as usual. There's chaos with fur example wildlife photographers who bring in 30.000 $ equipment. But for me. I don't smuggle 5 new Iphones in. No issues.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2868523]No. What they do is. All luggage which is in the hold is scanned before it lands on the carousel. They can see apparently if it's new or used mobile phones for example. Suspicious baggage is marked with white crosses. These are opened. Hand luggage is scanned as usual. There's chaos with fur example wildlife photographers who bring in 30.000 $ equipment. But for me. I don't smuggle 5 new Iphones in. No issues.

Mwalimu.[/QUOTE]So you wait longer at carousel now?

Bummer, as I was going to bring an old 24 inch tv for someone that would fit into my hold bag. It will likely get a white X.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2868523]No. What they do is. All luggage which is in the hold is scanned before it lands on the carousel. They can see apparently if it's new or used mobile phones for example. Suspicious baggage is marked with white crosses. These are opened. Hand luggage is scanned as usual. There's chaos with fur example wildlife photographers who bring in 30.000 $ equipment. But for me. I don't smuggle 5 new Iphones in. No issues.

Mwalimu.[/QUOTE]Cell phones have batteries and shouldn't be checked. Is Customs as strict with Carry On Luggage? Are they enforcing the Health Insurance yet?

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2868772]Cell phones have batteries and shouldn't be checked. Is Customs as strict with Carry On Luggage? Are they enforcing the Health Insurance yet?[/QUOTE]There are no health insurance rules to enter Kenya.

Only Mwalimu can wax so poetic about Kenya, lololol.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2868125]Finally after running the COVID gauntlet. I kiss sweet mother earth. Mama Africa. The first Ginger tea with lemon and honey tasted like heaven. Finally touch down in Kenya. There's light and shadow. The government tries it's best to chase away the last remaining tourists. I was in the LAST authentic African joint in CBD. Sabina Joy. I cried tears of joy. And yes. I'm not ashamed to say that. Champions league was on. The selector was at its best selecting my favorite times. Uganda happy reggae. Bongo flava. Dance hall. If you don't have a hearing damage after that experience. Fat ass hookers and I mean FAT shove their ways through the crowds watching like under a spell football. I sipped on my White Cap baridi. Pure Bliss.

Did I take pussy? No. That's just a warm up. As usual I'm the only white man. But as I'm African no difference. Kweli Kabisa. The light. It's unbelievable cheap if you have euros or dollars. The shilling is in free fall. The shadow. Dumb government policy. Long power cuts. In CBD Nairobi. I had less power cuts in Antananarivo. Internet. Either lightning fast. Or non existent. Crazy. They have a problem with infrastructure. A serious one. In any case TIK. Like it or run away screaming. Where to? To LGBTQI+PRISON? NFW. Here you're alive. Pussy? There's everywhere you walk. On every street corner. Like my Sansibari friend said. They're like coca cola.

Power went out AGAIN. So no idea if I ever can send that report.

In any case.

Young or old man Go to Africa! The last frontier. Last place on earth where a man can be a man.

Mwalimu.

[URL]https://youtu.be/mVyztZXPFCQ?si=sEbbdFc8-iSODXdh[/URL][/QUOTE]

It seems that sex toys are still considered prohibited items at the airport.

Amongst other things also viagra.

That's strange, as you can buy Viagra at any street corner in Kenya.

And also sex toys are available in Kenya at online shops.

[URL]https://nation.africa/kenya/news/guns-sex-toys-among-items-seized-at-jkia-in-four-months--4426400[/URL]

[QUOTE=Zimzam;2869453]It seems that sex toys are still considered prohibited items at the airport.

Amongst other things also viagra.

That's strange, as you can buy Viagra at any street corner in Kenya.

And also sex toys are available in Kenya at online shops.

[URL]https://nation.africa/kenya/news/guns-sex-toys-among-items-seized-at-jkia-in-four-months--4426400[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes. I agree. Kenya is a strange country. So. Easy solution. Don't bring the stuff. Just buy it in country. Anyway. The last Muzungu will shut off the light in Mtwapa. Now K Permit 250 K KES.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2868125]Finally after running the COVID gauntlet. I kiss sweet mother earth. Mama Africa. The first Ginger tea with lemon and honey tasted like heaven. Finally touch down in Kenya. There's light and shadow. The government tries it's best to chase away the last remaining tourists. I was in the LAST authentic African joint in CBD. Sabina Joy. I cried tears of joy. And yes. I'm not ashamed to say that. Champions league was on. The selector was at its best selecting my favorite times. Uganda happy reggae. Bongo flava. Dance hall. If you don't have a hearing damage after that experience. Fat ass hookers and I mean FAT shove their ways through the crowds watching like under a spell football. I sipped on my White Cap baridi. Pure Bliss.

Did I take pussy? No. That's just a warm up. As usual I'm the only white man. But as I'm African no difference. Kweli Kabisa. The light. It's unbelievable cheap if you have euros or dollars. The shilling is in free fall. The shadow. Dumb government policy. Long power cuts. In CBD Nairobi. I had less power cuts in Antananarivo. Internet. Either lightning fast. Or non existent. Crazy. They have a problem with infrastructure. A serious one. In any case TIK. Like it or run away screaming. Where to? To LGBTQI+PRISON? NFW. Here you're alive. Pussy? There's everywhere you walk. On every street corner. Like my Sansibari friend said. They're like coca cola.[/QUOTE]Pussy is everywhere here on every corner. The waitress who serves you, the receptionists at the dentist, etc etc. One arguably don't really need Tinder or other online sources.

Met up with a few tinder babes, in some cases we discussed money upfront offered 5 k and this was generally accepted. On one instance a chick tried to get me to agree to 20 k in the middle of the deed after having agreed 5 k. Like seriously!!

In the cases we didn't discuss cash I still gave them 5 k for Uber. On one occasion I was showering after the deed and one helped herself to 40 gbp from my wallet (bit of a bummer). I did however have a hidden second wallet and second phone + passport. Its important to girl proof your apartment.

Had a shitty 3 some in Mombasa with 2 Muslim girls who switched off the TV when they heard the call to prayer. This is after the cum was still dribbling on their legs. Oh well lols.

Met up with 2 offline girls, for decent enough sessions. Same 5 k rules applied.

Talking about blackouts, I was forced to go clubbing at Milan club the after a blackout couldn't stay indoors. Bottles of whisky from 10 k kes and you get a table. Met a chick and drank with her all night and picked her tab she had before I got there 1.6 k kes. (I know I know). At the end of night she asked for a 100 gbp hahaha oh dear. She pretty though but a 19 k kes come on love.

Things are tough though for the everyday person. I casually asked all my new "friends", people in non skilled or low skilled work seem to be earning no more than 25 to 30 k. As an African kid, who managed to escape through good fortune and as a massive leftie, I have pangs of guilty exploitation and all that. I take comfort in that it was all consensual and we are all adults.

I also use prep e, it seems to be important to use this in this city. Even people in serious relationships in this city are on the casual sex game as long as there is monetary gain.

Hii friends!

I am going to Nairobi soon and I want to hear from you all about club like Sabina joy pub, that I can pickup working girls that I like, I already know Liddos _club, boss den.

And also, I would love to go to a Buffet Restaurants in Nairobi, do you have recommended place?

Hello,

Has anyone used below site to meet girls in nairobi? Any postive reviews?

[URL]http://luxxnairobi.site/[/URL]

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2870235]Hii friends!

I am going to Nairobi soon and I want to hear from you all about club like Sabina joy pub, that I can pickup working girls that I like, I already know Liddos _club, boss den.

And also, I would love to go to a Buffet Restaurants in Nairobi, do you have recommended place?[/QUOTE]Go to Brew Bistro in Westlands. Boss Den was dead. After 11 pm. Eclectic mix of kenyan middle class, hookers, tourists, Indian Business people.

Mwalimu.

Go to Pronto for food. Near the high court. Of course Javas is always good. CBD.

[QUOTE=Robust1234;2872299]Hello,

Has anyone used below site to meet girls in nairobi? Any postive reviews?

[URL]http://luxxnairobi.site/[/URL][/QUOTE]Forget it. No need for overpriced escort services in Subsaharan Africa.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=Robust1234;2872299]Hello,

Has anyone used below site to meet girls in nairobi? Any postive reviews?

[URL]http://luxxnairobi.site/[/URL][/QUOTE]All the pics look fake and why would you ever need to use them in Nairobi?

If you want a dinner date $150 LOL ffs. Ask any woman you see in Nairobi and she will come to dinner. The same in that none will turn down a free trip as a travel companion.

As for the good deed, again get out and introduce yourself to whomever you see and like. The chances are more than 50% you can agree and get what you want.

After an African respite I have the opportunity to fly by either Kigali or Nairobi on the way home. I have minimal African experience, having spent some time in Uganda and Ethiopia, preferring Uganda. I like semi-pros or good girls, but also like naughty massage-girls, spontaneously. LOL. In the 'dating' scene I have no qualms about pushing a few native currency at the going rate into wallets if I don't want to see them again, but hate pre-negotiating or haggling for sex.

I have RTFFs and Nairobi seems the go for easy of availability, less issues with the police. But I sense it's a bit of a haggling meat-market and prices are going up? Kigali is interesting. I hear you can go well picking up in natural locations, colleges, malls etc. Other than that the massage salons seem the safest place for a bit of a grope, HJ, BJ, shag. And the girls give it up pretty easy without outrageous haggling. I also like tall girls and really like what I am matching with so far on Kigali Tinder (though activity levels are less than Nairobi, which is an insane amount of interest and matches). Am 6 ft 6 myself. 50, well-groomed. I am not fond of loud places, beer, night life, etc. Well. Not to pick up at.

I am travelling with large international luggage, so decent hotels with some hope of security to store luggage are my only options. I also like aircon and thick walls, etc.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2870235]Hii friends!

I am going to Nairobi soon and I want to hear from you all about club like Sabina joy pub, that I can pickup working girls that I like, I already know Liddos _club, boss den.

And also, I would love to go to a Buffet Restaurants in Nairobi, do you have recommended place?[/QUOTE]Black diamond in westlansa.

[QUOTE=Robust1234;2872299]Hello,

Has anyone used below site to meet girls in nairobi? Any postive reviews?

[URL]http://luxxnairobi.site/[/URL][/QUOTE]In Kenya just say "Hello, I'm from the west. " you will meet millions upon millions of girls.

[QUOTE=Darksol;2872678]After an African respite I have the opportunity to fly by either Kigali or Nairobi on the way home. I have minimal African experience, having spent some time in Uganda and Ethiopia, preferring Uganda. I like semi-pros or good girls, but also like naughty massage-girls, spontaneously. LOL. In the 'dating' scene I have no qualms about pushing a few native currency at the going rate into wallets if I don't want to see them again, but hate pre-negotiating or haggling for sex.

I have RTFFs and Nairobi seems the go for easy of availability, less issues with the police. But I sense it's a bit of a haggling meat-market and prices are going up? Kigali is interesting. I hear you can go well picking up in natural locations, colleges, malls etc. Other than that the massage salons seem the safest place for a bit of a grope, HJ, BJ, shag. And the girls give it up pretty easy without outrageous haggling. I also like tall girls and really like what I am matching with so far on Kigali Tinder (though activity levels are less than Nairobi, which is an insane amount of interest and matches). Am 6 ft 6 myself. 50, well-groomed. I am not fond of loud places, beer, night life, etc. Well. Not to pick up at.

I am travelling with large international luggage, so decent hotels with some hope of security to store luggage are my only options. I also like aircon and thick walls, etc.[/QUOTE]I vote for Nairobi. Kigali is quiet place compared to Nairobi, there are just a few places to go out. And people and girls don't speak English very well there, in Nairobi they do. Go to Kigali later when you have visited Nairobi, Mombasa and Dar es Salaam.

Planning my Kenya trip. Nairobi part, I have read all posts but can't decide which area to stay in. Should it be in Westlands or is Nairobi Central better. Any advice greatly appreciated. Also hotel recommendation would be great.

Cheers.

Be.

[QUOTE=Belsie;2873577]Planning my Kenya trip. Nairobi part, I have read all posts but can't decide which area to stay in. Should it be in Westlands or is Nairobi Central better. Any advice greatly appreciated. Also hotel recommendation would be great.

Cheers.

Be.[/QUOTE]Central business district gives more eating options and more hunting with more human traffic / road traffic and is noisier than Westlands. Bolt or uber is only 300 ks between the two. Overall not much difference.

As I sitting at airport and try to kill the time will add short report. Today at early morning I was flying to Antananarivo with Kenyan airlines and my connecting fly from Nairobi to tana was delayed for more than 10 hours so Kenyan airlines give me free hotel at Nairobi west (Summerdale inn hotel) like 20 minutes away with taxi (indrive) from Sabina joy. I went to hotel have a nap for few hours take a indrive.

Taxi to Sabina joy it was just 2 pm daytime Friday afternoon so I was thinking it will be almost empty on my surprise it was many people already at least 20 girls and many locals. Quality was at lower side many bigger mamas around but after 2. 5 hours spend here drinking tusker lite (cheap beer 260 or 280 shillings) I manage to see a fuckable girl. She was 20 years old from meru at slimmer side as I like. I offer her 1 k for short time and she quickly agrees (its surprise me as same price I was paying 4 years or 5 years ago at Sabina joy. Room cost was 300 extra on the top and they give free condom. RThe girl was nice and sweet she done quiet good blowjob and fuck was fine so in the end I pay her agreed price and give 200 tip and told its for a beer.

I enjoyed my time spending here. If you sit at beginning side from entry girls not bothers you to much but they become more aggressive if you go end side of the bar where is short time rooms near men's toilets. They start grab you and try convince to go for for fuck.

Few locals guys come chat with me on separate times as they was curious to see mzungu here. I ask how much they pay for short time both guys said 1 k + 300 room.

Later I went to another place calling eureka club its just next street from Sabina joy but at 5 pm it has just 4-5 girls inside I walk around and after left as 7 pm the bus coming to pick up people to airport from hotel for fly to tana.

Good old Sabina Joy.

They used to have girls dancing on poles and parading around almost naked but now it is just another loud bar.

I sometimes watch EPL there if I am passing and there is a game on. As you say the odd local man will ask a few questions and have a chat out of curiousity.

The women tend to be on the larger side but no doubt the odd diamond could pop up.

Worth a visit if in town as it is still 1 k + 300 for short time you say!

On a side note, not far from there on Sheikh Karuma Road there is Central Park Hotel it has a every good Sauna and Steam room. No women, just very good for relaxing if you enjoy that kind of thing, 1000 ks.

I'll be in Kenya in a two weeks, staying for 3 weeks. I've been on Badoo screening for prospects. I've screened out (1) all girls over 24, (2) all girls who've ever had kids, (3) obvious P4 P girls, (4) chubby or fat girls, (5) those with shaved pussies (I like a natural Bush), and (6) all those who ever asked for money or even hinted about same. Still, after all that screening, I'm left with 6 gorgeous prospects who swear that I'm the man of their dreams. Now I know that virtually ALL Kenyan girls have some interests of a financial nature, but my feeling is that all of these remains girls are just hopeful that I'll fall in love and petition them for a fiancée visa to the US. Hence, they are motivated to make my visit a mind blowing experience. But who do I pick? And who do I disappoint? Tough choice!

RG.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2876160]I'll be in Kenya in a two weeks, staying for 3 weeks. I've been on Badoo screening for prospects. I've screened out (1) all girls over 24, (2) all girls who've ever had kids, (3) obvious P4 P girls, (4) chubby or fat girls, (5) those with shaved pussies (I like a natural Bush), and (6) all those who ever asked for money or even hinted about same. Still, after all that screening, I'm left with 6 gorgeous prospects who swear that I'm the man of their dreams. Now I know that virtually ALL Kenyan girls have some interests of a financial nature, but my feeling is that all of these remains girls are just hopeful that I'll fall in love and petition them for a fiance visa to the US. Hence, they are motivated to make my visit a mind blowing experience. But who do I pick? And who do I disappoint? Tough choice[/QUOTE]Well, all those girls have lied to you, how do I know? Simple, all Kenyans constantly tell lies.

They are not stupid as you may think and certainly know your game. It comes down to you trying to fuck them and them trying to get whatever they are looking for from you.

You are not their first badoo rodeo.

Hey guys I have found a lady that has a link up to a very nice exotic and safe air bnb close to the town center. In addition to that she will provide ladies for you fine ladies clean and honest. She will also provide all types of entertainment and show you all the good spots to drink and party. Long story short vibes on vibes. Kindly contact her and tell her all your needs and she will sort you out. Pictures of the place and the ladies as well will be provided. Everything above board. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2876213]Well, all those girls have lied to you, how do I know? Simple, all Kenyans constantly tell lies.

They are not stupid as you may think and certainly know your game. It comes down to you trying to fuck them and them trying to get whatever they are looking for from you.

You are not their first badoo rodeo.[/QUOTE]Well, of course they assume that all white people are "rich," which is a very low bar by Kenyan standards. But they are pretty much "normal" girls, not professional working girls. For example, one girl is a just-graduated nursing student. She actually had me on camera watching her graduation, so I know that's not fake. The only money I sent her I volunteered, so she could get a depo shot at a nearby clinic. She even sent me a copy of the invoice without my asking for it. (The price for the shot was 2,800 shillings, peanuts as far as I'm concerned.).

I wasn't born yesterday. I know that none of these girls are virgins, which I wouldn't want anyway. I simply have no interest in the over P4 P mentality. I prefer the illusion of a real girlfriend experience.

I am looking for some good daytime fun in Nairobi. Ideally incall so that I don't have to provide the room. Any thoughts on massage parlors or other options near Ngong / Kilimani / Hurlingham?

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2876875]Well, of course they assume that all white people are "rich," which is a very low bar by Kenyan standards. But they are pretty much "normal" girls, not professional working girls. For example, one girl is a just-graduated nursing student. She actually had me on camera watching her graduation, so I know that's not fake. The only money I sent her I volunteered, so she could get a depo shot at a nearby clinic. She even sent me a copy of the invoice without my asking for it. (The price for the shot was 2,800 shillings, peanuts as far as I'm concerned.).

I wasn't born yesterday. I know that none of these girls are virgins, which I wouldn't want anyway. I simply have no interest in the over P4 P mentality. I prefer the illusion of a real girlfriend experience.[/QUOTE]I travel the world with your same mindset! Well done! We are unicorns, sir! But we are unicorns with a TON of very unique stories.

Just returned from a Pattaya trip. Feeling a bit unsatisfied and burnt out from mongering in Thailand. (Two reports were made; warning. I'm quite introverted and so my reports were not necessarily typical). Oddly enough my best session was with an African girl. So I've plotted to go to the source and have a trip tentatively planned for Nairobi in February. Just a few questions:

1. Are hotels or AirBnBs best for Kenya? Are both fairly easy to bring back guests? Do you have to sign in your guests and have them leave their IDs like in Thailand? If I were to go for an Airbnb, should I ask the guest prior if I can bring back girls or would I be fine just bringing them back without informing the host?

2. For say a week's vacation, would it be best to stay in Nairobi for the entire week or would it be feasible to spend at least a few days in Mombasa?

3. Are girls on apps (tinder, Badoo, tagged) easy to get to agree to a pay for play arrangement? Or is it a soft arrangement where you're better for not talking payment and just giving them money in the morning? Are you expected to go through the whole Song and dance of flirting or is it fine to be upfront with expected arrangements (I. E. I'll pay you for an hour or fun)?

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2881115]Just returned from a Pattaya trip. Feeling a bit unsatisfied and burnt out from mongering in Thailand. (Two reports were made; warning. I'm quite introverted and so my reports were not necessarily typical). Oddly enough my best session was with an African girl. So I've plotted to go to the source and have a trip tentatively planned for Nairobi in February. Just a few questions:

1. Are hotels or AirBnBs best for Kenya? Are both fairly easy to bring back guests? Do you have to sign in your guests and have them leave their IDs like in Thailand? If I were to go for an Airbnb, should I ask the guest prior if I can bring back girls or would I be fine just bringing them back without informing the host?

2. For say a week's vacation, would it be best to stay in Nairobi for the entire week or would it be feasible to spend at least a few days in Mombasa?

3. Are girls on apps (tinder, Badoo, tagged) easy to get to agree to a pay for play arrangement? Or is it a soft arrangement where you're better for not talking payment and just giving them money in the morning? Are you expected to go through the whole Song and dance of flirting or is it fine to be upfront with expected arrangements (I. E. I'll pay you for an hour or fun)?[/QUOTE]Personally, I prefer Mombasa. Flights on Kenya Airways are cheap between Nairobi and Mombasa. I don't know about Airbnb in Nairobi, but I've used them a lot on Mombasa. I've never had a host ask for my lady's ID. As for Tinder, Badoo, etc. , I NEVER talk about pay for play. But you'll be a rock star in Kenya. Girls there will just spread their legs at the drop of a hat, especially if you're white. Just treat them well, take 'them for dinner / drinks, and they will fuck your brains out. Girls don't like to feel like prostitutes, even if they're hoping for a bit of remuneration in the morning.

RG.

If you're coming from the Americas for just one week, I would stick to one location. You'll be jet lagged the entire trip and spend too much time on the move.

Nairobi is high altitude and cool, especially at night. I hang in Westlands when I go to Nairobi. Mombasa is hot and humid. Also, although Mombasa is a city, people refer to the entire coast as "Mombasa". I moved from Western highlands and living in Malindi for now.

Whatever platform you use to get a room, to be safe, book for two. Only the higher end hotels will require her to have an ID. Most wont care.

Set up Wise and WorldRemit (as a backup) before you travel then go straight to Safaricom and set up mPesa mobile money upon arrival. The convenience, exchange rates and safety for accessing funds is a huge factor why I live in Kenya.

Lessons I have to continually learn the hard way:

1) Don't be generous. It works the opposite of what you intend it to and will harm you rather than help you. They expect more once you show generosity. Seriously, it's like feeding dangerous wildlife. They all eventually steal.

2) They all lie for no reason even if the truth is to their benefit.

3) It's actually harder to rid yourself of her than it is to find her and she's very easy to find. Dont talk money. She wont talk money but know that she absolutely wants money and its why she’s with you. But, if she wants to invite a friend, nothing good will come of it. Assume she's not into you and you're a game to her.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2881291]If you're coming from the Americas for just one week, I would stick to one location. You'll be jet lagged the entire trip and spend too much time on the move.
Set up Wise and WorldRemit (as a backup) before you travel then go straight to Safaricom and set up mPesa mobile money upon arrival.
1) Don't be generous. It works the opposite of what you intend it to and will harm you rather than help you. They expect more once you show generosity. Seriously, it's like feeding dangerous wildlife. They all eventually steal.

2) They all lie for no reason even if the truth is to their benefit.

3) It's actually harder to rid yourself of her than it is to find her and she's very easy to find. Dont talk money. She wont talk money but know that she absolutely wants money and its why shes with you. But, if she wants to invite a friend, nothing good will come of it. Assume she's not into you and you're a game to her.[/QUOTE]These are good tips from slowalk.

They all steal, very true. They all expect more and more until you are mean for not giving them what they want.

Lie, lie, lie it really is comical at times. They can't help it.

Good point, if they bring a friend they are not into you or they would not risk that friend stealing you. I.

The only bit I don't agree with. Money.

I like agree up front as I don't want drama afterwards, if you give them 5 k they may then argue for 10 k, Now it is a pain and a hassle to get rid of them in such secenario.

All the girls I met with are Tinder girls. I spoke to them for a few days before I arrived.

Out of a week I met with 8 girls.

I didn't even pay them one shill, it's very easy to bring a girl home if you're a foreign guy, and a young man.

Yes I paid for their transport and meals.

It is important to talk to them a few days before arrival and try to connect, some will ask for money and some will not, and some will try to raise money from you and do it smoothly with some excuse like "my cellphone is lost, we can't talk at all" she probably expects you to buy a new cellphone.

The local women in Kenya love sex, they know the job.

I was amazed at the amount of girls who want to meet, it didn't happen to me in my country, I would give you an example, I had at least 4 girls who wanted to meet in the evening and I had to choose one of them, it was hard, and I was sorry I only came for a week.

Good apps:

Bolt- a very cheap taxi app in Nairobi.

Safaricom.

Get ready to get glances for a few seconds from people in the street.

Children on the street may have to contact you with the goal of asking for money and will not leave you.

Keep your cellphone close to you!

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2881351]
The only bit I don't agree with. Money.
I like agree up front as I don't want drama afterwards, if you give them 5 k they may then argue for 10 k, Now it is a pain and a hassle to get rid of them in such secenario.[/QUOTE]When you deal with pros, absolutely pay up front.

When you deal with non pros, I never mention money. I just send it to her what I want and she's wet.

I should point out that if you’re young and attractive, you’re her dream and you pay nothing. If you’re older, sophisticated and attractive, it’s up to you but if you’re old, fat and don’t make an effort to look presentable, you are not what she’s looking for and she wants much more. Stands to reason.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2881777]When you deal with pros, absolutely pay up front.

When you deal with non pros, I never mention money. I just send it to her what I want and she's wet.

I should point out that if youre young and attractive, youre her dream and you pay nothing. If youre older, sophisticated and attractive, its up to you but if youre old, fat and dont make an effort to look presentable, you are not what shes looking for and she wants much more. Stands to reason.[/QUOTE]Not pay up front, never. I guess you meant that agree the prize and all possible terms before taking girl in your room. If you pay before, girl don't have motivation anymore to give good service.

Thank you to everyone who took time to answer my newbie questions. I do appreciate it.

I ideally would like to net non-pros, but I honestly am more comfortable being upfront with expected services and what she can be expected to be paid for those services. I understand that's not very organic and might even be a bit off-putting, but it sounds like that's the safest way to approach mongering in Kenya. It's also how I approached mongering in Thailand, so it's the method with which I am most comfortable.

I am not the best at small talk and playing the flirting game. I also wouldn't have much time for my trip, especially factoring in the time I can expect to be jetlagged, so I think being upfront with these women that I'm looking to pay for play is best.

I also have read through this thread quite a bit and I definitely know to keep my guard up. I know mongering in Africa will be quite different from Thailand, so I hope I keep my resolve when I land!

Just a quick question about Mpesa: do girls prefer Mpesa or cash? Can you fund your Mpesa wallet with cash? I will be carrying quite a bit with me and usually in Thailand I just exchange my USD. I have heard that Mpesa is widely used everywhere and it's much more convenient, so I am open to just using my cash to fund my Mpesa wallet instead of exchanging it for KSH. That is if the women there prefer this and if it's widely accepted elsewhere (restaurants, shopping centers, etc).

*Additional question: I know it was suggested that I stay in one location if I only had a week, but I am interested in hearing more about the pros and cons of Nairobi vs Mombasa. From my understanding, Nairobi will be more expensive but offers better lodging, food options, and maybe more selection in terms of women? From what I've read in the Mombasa thread, it sounds like Mombasa is cheaper, slower and more relaxing, but it seems like the lodging options aren't as nice and maybe the selection of women isn't as vast as Nairobi?

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2883623]Thank you to everyone who took time to answer my newbie questions. I do appreciate it.

I ideally would like to net non-pros, but I honestly am more comfortable being upfront with expected services and what she can be expected to be paid for those services. I understand that's not very organic and might even be a bit off-putting, but it sounds like that's the safest way to approach mongering in Kenya. It's also how I approached mongering in Thailand, so it's the method with which I am most comfortable.

I am not the best at small talk and playing the flirting game. I also wouldn't have much time for my trip, especially factoring in the time I can expect to be jetlagged, so I think being upfront with these women that I'm looking to pay for play is best.

I also have read through this thread quite a bit and I definitely know to keep my guard up. I know mongering in Africa will be quite different from Thailand, so I hope I keep my resolve when I land!

Just a quick question about Mpesa: do girls prefer Mpesa or cash? Can you fund your Mpesa wallet with cash? I will be carrying quite a bit with me and usually in Thailand I just exchange my USD. I have heard that Mpesa is widely used everywhere and it's much more convenient, so I am open to just using my cash to fund my Mpesa wallet instead of exchanging it for KSH. That is if the women there prefer this and if it's widely accepted elsewhere (restaurants, shopping centers, etc).

*Additional question: I know it was suggested that I stay in one location if I only had a week, but I am interested in hearing more about the pros and cons of Nairobi vs Mombasa. From my understanding, Nairobi will be more expensive but offers better lodging, food options, and maybe more selection in terms of women? From what I've read in the Mombasa thread, it sounds like Mombasa is cheaper, slower and more relaxing, but it seems like the lodging options aren't as nice and maybe the selection of women isn't as vast as Nairobi?[/QUOTE]Not pay up front, never. How many times are we supposed to tell you this until you understand? Stay in Thailand if you can't do that.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2883625]Not pay up front, never. How many times are we supposed to tell you this until you understand? Stay in Thailand if you can't do that.[/QUOTE]English must not be your first language? No one said anything about paying upfront. I mentioned that I would be upfront about prices to be paid after services are rendered. You need to work on your reading comprehension, lad.

[QUOTE=Leblon;2883558]Not pay up front, never. I guess you meant that agree the prize and all possible terms before taking girl in your room. If you pay before, girl don't have motivation anymore to give good service.[/QUOTE]Good catch. I meant agree to terms up front. I'm the worst editor of my own posts.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2883623]Thank you to everyone who took time to answer my newbie questions. I do appreciate it.


Just a quick question about Mpesa: do girls prefer Mpesa or cash? Can you fund your Mpesa wallet with cash? I will be carrying quite a bit with me and usually in Thailand I just exchange my USD. I have heard that Mpesa is widely used everywhere and it's much more convenient, so I am open to just using my cash to fund my Mpesa wallet instead of exchanging it for KSH. That is if the women there prefer this and if it's widely accepted elsewhere (restaurants, shopping centers, etc).

I recommend you set up Wise and WorldRemit apps before you leave the US. Then, add to mPESA once you set up a Safaricom number and mPESA account at Safaicom. You can add to mPESA electronically without touching cash at all. If you must bring cash, you can exchange USD for KSh at the airport or at one of the many FOREX then go to any mPESA shop and turn Kenya Shillings into mPESA. You can exchange $100 at local Indian groceries on the coast for better rates. Someone can advise which ones.

*Additional question: I know it was suggested that I stay in one location if I only had a week, but I am interested in hearing more about the pros and cons of Nairobi vs Mombasa. From my understanding, Nairobi will be more expensive but offers better lodging, food options, and maybe more selection in terms of women? From what I've read in the Mombasa thread, it sounds like Mombasa is cheaper, slower and more relaxing, but it seems like the lodging options aren't as nice and maybe the selection of women isn't as vast as Nairobi?[/QUOTE]For newcomers, the coast is set up better for tourists so, try Bamburi Beach, Diani Beach or Malindi. Its hot and humid. Its no Pattaya, however.

I want to spend some time near Thika near Kenyatta University but I can't give first person advise about that area north of Nairobi. My neighbor is young and he reported that they "more that one has ripped my clothes off me. ".

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2876875]I simply have no interest in the over P4P mentality. I prefer the illusion of a real girlfriend experience.[/QUOTE]Metaphysics aside, many have posted in so many words that whatever your experience is with the Kenyan ladies, it's still transactional, P4 P or GFE. None of us should be fooled, or so foolish, not to recognize: you WILL pay, one way or the other. Just be sure it's to your benefit.

Although I certainly already knew this by heart, I just got hard reminded of it during my recent trip: meet a "college" (in Kenya, colleges are for those who can't afford or don't have the grades for university) Kenchic via Tinder, who was more alluring than sexy based on her pics & vids from her profile. Still, ended up hooking up with her, in person she was really a hot number, slim but fully sexy in the way she dressed, and better au naturel perfect t&a. Was a sweet spinner in the sack, and has good head game. We quickly established a girl friendly experience (GFE), she INITIALLY seems eager just to have someone (foreign) to hang with during Christmas holidays, at a fancy apt complex with pool, chill common areas, gameroom, etc. I was glad to have the company. And the sex. No money was ever negotiated but of course it was free food, wine, transport, some phone credit, traveling, entertainment to her. All on my expense.

It lasted about 10 days--the illusion turned to reality when she realized she wasn't getting direct cash, so she started holding back on 'services'. The final straw for both of us is when she went to bed with her clothes on, and woke up playing with her phone rather than with me. I concluded the illusion by telling her, that same morning, that I was totally busy that day so she had to go home. I never said we would meet again, nor did I even give her fare to go home. We haven't texted since. That was the end of that.

Still, Fun while it lasted.

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2885033]Metaphysics aside, many have posted in so many words that whatever your experience is with the Kenyan ladies, it's still transactional, P4 P or GFE. None of us should be fooled, or so foolish, not to recognize: you WILL pay, one way or the other. Just be sure it's to your benefit.

Although I certainly already knew this by heart, I just got hard reminded of it during my recent trip: meet a "college" (in Kenya, colleges are for those who can't afford or don't have the grades for university) Kenchic via Tinder, who was more alluring than sexy based on her pics & vids from her profile. Still, ended up hooking up with her, in person she was really a hot number, slim but fully sexy in the way she dressed, and better au naturel perfect t&a. Was a sweet spinner in the sack, and has good head game. We quickly established a girl friendly experience (GFE), she INITIALLY seems eager just to have someone (foreign) to hang with during Christmas holidays, at a fancy apt complex with pool, chill common areas, gameroom, etc. I was glad to have the company. And the sex. No money was ever negotiated but of course it was free food, wine, transport, some phone credit, traveling, entertainment to her. All on my expense..[/QUOTE]Very apt description. If no cash is forthcoming. To wine and dine. Rookie mistake. Straight cash transaction and bullshit about "I love you baby" works out much cheaper and cost effective. These college girls are all after funding. Like university students. Just do the deed give money in the morning. Then she can buy herself public transport and kuku with chips. Of course she romances you to become one of her lovers to help funding her studies. Sugar daddy deals. But you're not the only one. Sooner or later reality sets in. After all. It's better to keep to transactional jiggi jiggi. Don't worry. Once you're in her data base. I. E. Phone contact Shree going to call you again. As I have reiterated before. Wine and dine useless expense. No need to romance an African girl. Utter waste of money. With cash you help her with her actual living expenses.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2885200]Very apt description. If no cash is forthcoming. To wine and dine. Rookie mistake. Straight cash transaction and bullshit about "I love you baby" works out much cheaper and cost effective. These college girls are all after funding. Like university students. Just do the deed give money in the morning. Then she can buy herself public transport and kuku with chips. Of course she romances you to become one of her lovers to help funding her studies. Sugar daddy deals. But you're not the only one. Sooner or later reality sets in. After all. It's better to keep to transactional jiggi jiggi. Don't worry. Once you're in her data base. I. E. Phone contact Shree going to call you again. As I have reiterated before. Wine and dine useless expense. No need to romance an African girl. Utter waste of money. With cash you help her with her actual living expenses.

Mwalimu.[/QUOTE]But the romancing part can be fun, even if one knows it's an illusion. I have no qualms about being less than honest with the ladies.

RG.

A first timer to Africa, I traveled to Nairobi in early January 2024 for 10 days. It wasn't a pure mongering trip, but in this post I will focus on just that. Many things written in this forum are true, so I will just add a few personal observations.

CLUBS: Nairobi Street Kitchen is full on Thursdays. Alchemist seems quiet on weekdays and busy on weekends. Generally, nightlife in Westlands seems to start at midnight. During the week, one needs to know which clubs are "hot", especially Monday to Wednesday.

STRIPCLUB: Liddos was closed (temporarily, it seems). Standing in the street and trying to figure out what to do next, I ran into the only Kenyan guy that did not want something from me. He mentioned "207 Lounge" and walked away. I was quoted at the door 1 HR 4 k KSH incl. Room, 12 HR takeout 10 k KSH. Not cheap, but 50% of the girls were young and hot. Small, friendly and "cozy" place with a massive outdoor area with separated, open tents to sit in. Didn't see a foreigner there.

APPS: Girls on apps are young, horny, and abundant. Many are blessed with bodies that Western women couldn't achieve even if they worked out 5 days a week. As a rule of thumb, Tinder is more for paid hook-ups whereas Bumble is more for girls with "normal jobs". As the latter doesn't mean much in Kenya, realistically, the differences are minimal. The "programmer" you match with on Bumble may be really able to code, or just "plans" to be a programmer "next year". In general, if you want "normal" dating (I. E. , without pre-arranged service agreements), be prepared to be taken advantage of. Not always, but sometimes. Which brings me to the next point:

CULTURE: Kenyans are open and friendly, however, the amount of time and effort they are willing to invest just to get a few bucks out of you is simply mind-boggling. Guys on the streets will walk with you for hours and tell you the nicest stories about orphanages, schools etc. Just to get something out of you, even if it's just a few hundred shilling. Girls, especially the "regular" girls with "jobs", will spend entire afternoons and evenings with you for a a few drinks, or a dinner. If you're strictly after sex, it makes more sense to go for the semi-pro's with the pre-arranged "taxi money". If you want the thrill of "regular dating", be prepared to be astonished by the level of work Kenyan girls put in for a little bit of attention and a hot dish. Without guaranteed sex. As most Kenyan women, pro or non-pro, generally enjoy jokes and appreciate a healthy amount of dirty smalltalk, I suggest to do just that before the date in a relaxed & playful manner and filter out the ones that are not responsive (BTW this strategy works in the West too, although you must be more careful and less direct).

CONCLUSION: After a self-imposed 2-year hiatus from dating in order to free up energy to work on myself, I enjoyed Kenya a lot. The feeling of dating a hot 20-something that can hold a conversation (yes, they exist), and has a good sense of humor, meant a lot to me. Nevertheless, "regular" dating in Kenya means there's a chance you run into girls that will take you for a ride without putting out. In Europe, I have a three-date rule, in Kenya that's down to two dates, and I almost believe that's still one date too much. Kenya's economy and demographics means that there's not too much of a difference both in looks and brains between semi-pro's and "regular girls". They all need to make a living. And that's the true value that Kenya holds for men: There's an abundance of women everywhere. Whatever you do, you will get laid by a hot 20-something that loves having sex.

[QUOTE=Senser;2886458]A first timer to Africa, I traveled to Nairobi in early January 2024 for 10 days. It wasn't a pure mongering trip, but in this post I will focus on just that. Many things written in this forum are true, so I will just add a few personal observations.

CLUBS: Nairobi Street Kitchen is full on Thursdays.

"207 Lounge" I was quoted at the door 1 HR 4 k KSH incl. Room, 12 HR takeout 10 k KSH. Not cheap, but 50% of the girls were young and hot. Small, friendly and "cozy" place with a massive outdoor area with separated, open tents to sit in. [/QUOTE]Where are these two places. Anymore info?

Thanks.

I prefer sex without a condom (obviously) and the CDC says that the pills reduce the chance of getting HIV by 99%.

While not 100%; that's pretty good.

Need a prescription etc in US; and intermittent users can follow a 2-1-1 schedule.

It is also known as "intermittent," "non-daily," "event-driven," or "off-label" PrEP use.

The type of "on-demand" PrEP that has been studied is the "2-1-1" schedule. This means taking 2 pills 2-24 hours before sex, 1 pill 24 hours after the first dose, and 1 pill 24 hours after the second dose.

There is scientific evidence that the "2-1-1" schedule provides effective protection for gay and bisexual men* when having anal sex without a condom.

We don't know how "on-demand" PrEP works for heterosexual men and women, people who inject drugs, and transgender persons.

The are some side effects of course but seem to be tolerated pretty well.

So does anyone know if you can get them there?

Been to a Kenya a few times and met 'nice' - ok smart women who wanted to get a rapid HIV test together.

This is great but not for a quick pickup.

Thoughts?

[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2886534]I prefer sex without a condom (obviously) and the CDC says that the pills reduce the chance of getting HIV by 99%.

While not 100%; that's pretty good.

Need a prescription etc in US; and intermittent users can follow a 2-1-1 schedule.

It is also known as "intermittent," "non-daily," "event-driven," or "off-label" PrEP use.

The type of "on-demand" PrEP that has been studied is the "2-1-1" schedule. This means taking 2 pills 2-24 hours before sex, 1 pill 24 hours after the first dose, and 1 pill 24 hours after the second dose.

There is scientific evidence that the "2-1-1" schedule provides effective protection for gay and bisexual men* when having anal sex without a condom.

We don't know how "on-demand" PrEP works for heterosexual men and women, people who inject drugs, and transgender persons.

The are some side effects of course but seem to be tolerated pretty well.

So does anyone know if you can get them there?

Been to a Kenya a few times and met 'nice' - ok smart women who wanted to get a rapid HIV test together.

This is great but not for a quick pickup.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Its best to do the daily one. Research of prep in CIS / heterosexual males is not the greatest. There simply aren't enough studies (opinion) or at least they are not as visible or well reported as those done on gay men, trans and women.

There are whispers that event based can be done by straight men who are insertive partners, but they seem to be just whispers. ([URL]https://i-base.info/guides/prep/on-demand[/URL]). The rational for that seem to be since gay insertive partners can use event based by extension straight men can also do the same with the vag.

I am a big fan of prep, just personally I just do the daily one for the 3 or 4 weeks I monger internationally. 7 days before possible exposure and 7 days after possible exposure. No problem.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2886471]Where are these two places. Anymore info?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Feel free to look them up in Google Maps, there are plenty of pics and reviews. NSH is open during the day and you can check out the numerous restaurants. Thursday is Latino night on the second floor, which becomes a dance floor. I ubered my way there straight to the entrance, just type in the name and the driver will know. Nairobi Street Kitchen is in Westlands, 207 Lounge Bar is on Amboseli Lane, a bit hidden away besides the street. The owners have another lounge bar, which also starts with "2". Unfortunately I have forgotten the name and haven't been there. Anyone visiting 257, please leave a review here. It was my first and only time to a hooker-bar, I can't provide comparisons to Sabina Joy etc.

[QUOTE=SeanBenz;2886543]Its best to do the daily one. Research of prep in CIS / heterosexual males is not the greatest. There simply aren't enough studies (opinion) or at least they are not as visible or well reported as those done on gay men, trans and women.

There are whispers that event based can be done by straight men who are insertive partners, but they seem to be just whispers. ([URL]https://i-base.info/guides/prep/on-demand[/URL]). The rational for that seem to be since gay insertive partners can use event based by extension straight men can also do the same with the vag.

I am a big fan of prep, just personally I just do the daily one for the 3 or 4 weeks I monger internationally. 7 days before possible exposure and 7 days after possible exposure. No problem.[/QUOTE]SeanBenz -.

Thanks for your reply.

Sounds like the TD / FTC PReP is the one to go with; yes?

But there risks associated with it, notably kidney issues.

I'm 55 which puts me over the 50 age its mentioned.

Also where do you get it?

Could order online but a lot less comfortable ordering that than I might Viagra from an Indian pharmacy!

Chris.

Hi all. The girls that came to my room, all from Tinder, were allowed in for free after registration at the front desk. Sometimes they didn't even bother with the registration, especially if it was earlier in the evening. My booking was for 2 people anyway. And it may help that I'm VIP status in Radisson Rewards, equivalent to the former Platinum status. But I have a feeling it's the same for everybody.

The hotel is in a great location. Short ride to Westlands. The tollway entrance is fairly close, so rides to and from the airport don't take long.

The Arboretum, a tree park that appears to be a former colonial estate, is a great place for a run or a power walk, especially in the cool Nairobi climate. The area is secure and quiet, but not far from action. The bar, restaurant, and pool here seem to attract groups or pairs of probably upper middle class office girl / student types.

[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2887044]SeanBenz -.

Thanks for your reply.

Sounds like the TD / FTC PReP is the one to go with; yes?

But there risks associated with it, notably kidney issues.

I'm 55 which puts me over the 50 age its mentioned.

Also where do you get it?

Could order online but a lot less comfortable ordering that than I might Viagra from an Indian pharmacy!

Chris.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.purchase-prep.com/[/URL] (they get some of their supplies from India, it's legit look around).

I have gotten mine from that website twice with no issues.

But since I am in the UK I have also gotten it free on the national health care service, they were hesitant since I am not gay but acquiesced when I told them I was going to Africa to see old girlfriends lols.

And one time I got it in Bkk at a red cross can't remember the exact location it was before the pandemic when I was there so a while now.

It's best to talk / attend a sexual health clinic, yes your are right kidney function and liver function tests will need to be done to see if your baseline is the desired range. At sexual health clinics they do this for everyone regardless of age.

They also need to check if you have hep be because taking and stopping it when you have that is not advisable.

You can do all the test in Kenya it's probably cheaper but get your prep e online. Although given sub Saharan Africa's hiv rates you could probably get some in Nairobi as well.

I know it's probably not comparable to Pattaya, but are most airbnbs and hotels in Nairobi alright with allowing girls up to your room? Should I ask if the Airbnb host / hotel allows girls to join you? Are there places where you can just have the girl leave their ID at security / front desk and come up?

I was suggested W Place apartments as a good girl friendly option. Any other suggestions?

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2888347]I know it's probably not comparable to Pattaya, but are most airbnbs and hotels in Nairobi alright with allowing girls up to your room? Should I ask if the Airbnb host / hotel allows girls to join you? Are there places where you can just have the girl leave their ID at security / front desk and come up?

I was suggested W Place apartments as a good girl friendly option. Any other suggestions?[/QUOTE]I take it that the Airbnb has an entrance gate with security on it? If so, it is likely they will want to see ID. If no ID a small payment is usually accepted.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2888347]I know it's probably not comparable to Pattaya, but are most airbnbs and hotels in Nairobi alright with allowing girls up to your room? Should I ask if the Airbnb host / hotel allows girls to join you? Are there places where you can just have the girl leave their ID at security / front desk and come up?

I was suggested W Place apartments as a good girl friendly option. Any other suggestions?[/QUOTE]I like the W place. They will check ID, a pic of ID or just pay the guard off.

Aside from that many places with a guard will check ID.

Recently there have been some women brutally murdered so by men at airbnbs so there may be more scrutiny.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2888420]I take it that the Airbnb has an entrance gate with security on it? If so, it is likely they will want to see ID. If no ID a small payment is usually accepted.[/QUOTE]My apologies, I meant generally as I do not have a specific AirBnB in mind. Was just wondering what the protocol would be, specifically if mongering is accepted by most hotels and airbnbs in Nairobi or if I should contact the airbnb / hotel to ask if they allow girls to come up?

Are you saying that as long as there's an entrance with security, girls will probably be allowed to come up if they leave their ID, similar to how it is in Pattaya? I am ok with giving security a few KSH for their troubles too if that helps. I just worry that the host would not accept this and cause trouble for me.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2888578]My apologies, I meant generally as I do not have a specific AirBnB in mind. Was just wondering what the protocol would be, specifically if mongering is accepted by most hotels and airbnbs in Nairobi or if I should contact the airbnb / hotel to ask if they allow girls to come up?

Are you saying that as long as there's an entrance with security, girls will probably be allowed to come up if they leave their ID, similar to how it is in Pattaya? I am ok with giving security a few KSH for their troubles too if that helps. I just worry that the host would not accept this and cause trouble for me.[/QUOTE]Book the airbnb for two people. Gate security have a log book to keep a check on who comes and goes. Sometimes a girl will not have her ID on her, then you just give the security a few $, the majority will let them in.

Check with hotel before booking.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2888586]Book the airbnb for two people.[/QUOTE]Don't do this.

No offense to Brother Mombie! I honor & respect his contributions.

The reason why not is following.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2888578]Was just wondering what the protocol would be, specifically if mongering is accepted by most hotels and airbnbs in Nairobi or if I should contact the airbnb / hotel to ask if they allow girls to come up?

Are you saying that as long as there's an entrance with security, girls will probably be allowed to come up if they leave their ID, similar to how it is in Pattaya? I am ok with giving security a few KSH for their troubles too if that helps. I just worry that the host would not accept this and cause trouble for me.[/QUOTE]I've not been to Pattaya, Thailand, other Asian countries (except China) so maybe we're missing some nuance of what you're asking.

Sorry for long write-up but I seem to use these Abbs more than most here, so I got the direct experiences to describe, at least for Kenya.

All 'homestays', Airbnb is no different, are by definition 'girl-friendly' and visitor-friendly-- you DON'T need permission to invite whomever you wish to 'visit' you. Not from the Host, not from the guards, not from anyone. Don't even mention or ask Hosts about such visitations.

Yes there are rules about no parties and too many guests actually staying in the unit. But your 'visitors' are presumed your business.

What you may be worried about is the security factor and how that will affect having visitors. In my experience, the most-secure apartment buildings in Kenya DO want you to formally register your visitors -- but only after a certain hour, usually at 'sunset' 7 pm and later. During the daytime, they almost never ask who's with you. In both cases, you can bring as many as you like. At the last place I stayed, I overheard one guard joke about how I had so many visitors (he meant ladies) come thru in just one day. He didn't say anything directly to me, as that could have jeopardized his job if I complained to the supervisor.

And there's never a charge or fee for registering or the number of visitors. I recommend never stay at such a place if they ask for money for these, even if it's just guards trying to squeeze some extra cash out of you.

Registering your visitors is a security measure that protects you, the visitors, and more importantly--the guards: if any drama or violence happens, they know who you are, as an official Guest or Resident, and who are the visitors. The guards are paid to keep the peace for Residents and Guests, NOT for visitors.

Do tell the ladies in-advance they should bring their ID - even if not needed. But it's not always needed, at some places as they will take her phone number, and some other details, and register her that way. At least that's what happened at the last place I stayed.

One big way this protects you is if the girl tries to squeeze you for more money, or starts to act-out in order to embarrass you or cause trouble. Because YOU are the official guest, immediately go the guards and ask them to boot that banshee off the premises. They will do that without question. Although they might expect a bit of a 'tip', LOL.

I've also found that girls who normally would act like this typically do not want to go to such buildings, because they know they can't pull their bullshit or drama. If some Kenchic gives you excuses why she won't visit your place once you've told her where it is, take that as dodging a bullet and drop her.

An extra benefit: for those Kenchics who are serious about safety, they actually PREFER such buildings because they assume YOU won't be a criminal or killer endangering them. So I would advise to actively tell the ladies about where you stay, so they will feel safer.

Lastly, MOST Homestays do NOT register visitors, even places that have formal-looking security guards. So if you do stay at a place like that, then you'll be even freer to bring whomever you like, how many you like, at any times. Of course, these places may not be as safer as the securer homestays.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2888586]Book the airbnb for two people. Gate security have a log book to keep a check on who comes and goes. Sometimes a girl will not have her ID on her, then you just give the security a few $, the majority will let them in.

Check with hotel before booking.[/QUOTE]Thank you. It does sound like the protocol or more or less like Thailand then regarding signing in guests.

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2889328]Don't do this.

No offense to Brother Mombie! I honor & respect his contributions.

The reason why not is following.

I've not been to Pattaya, Thailand, other Asian countries (except China) so maybe we're missing some nuance of what you're asking.

Sorry for long write-up but I seem to use these Abbs more than most here, so I got the direct experiences to describe, at least for Kenya.

All 'homestays', Airbnb is no different, are by definition 'girl-friendly' and visitor-friendly-- you DON'T need permission to invite whomever you wish to 'visit' you. Not from the Host, not from the guards, not from anyone. Don't even mention or ask Hosts about such visitations.

Yes there are rules about no parties and too many guests actually staying in the unit. But your 'visitors' are presumed your business.

What you may be worried about is the security factor and how that will affect having visitors. In my experience, the most-secure apartment buildings in Kenya DO want you to formally register your visitors -- but only after a certain hour, usually at 'sunset' 7 pm and later. During the daytime, they almost never ask who's with you. In both cases, you can bring as many as you like. At the last place I stayed, I overheard one guard joke about how I had so many visitors (he meant ladies) come thru in just one day. He didn't say anything directly to me, as that could have jeopardized his job if I complained to the supervisor.

And there's never a charge or fee for registering or the number of visitors. I recommend never stay at such a place if they ask for money for these, even if it's just guards trying to squeeze some extra cash out of you.

Registering your visitors is a security measure that protects you, the visitors, and more importantly--the guards: if any drama or violence happens, they know who you are, as an official Guest or Resident, and who are the visitors. The guards are paid to keep the peace for Residents and Guests, NOT for visitors.

Do tell the ladies in-advance they should bring their ID - even if not needed. But it's not always needed, at some places as they will take her phone number, and some other details, and register her that way. At least that's what happened at the last place I stayed.

One big way this protects you is if the girl tries to squeeze you for more money, or starts to act-out in order to embarrass you or cause trouble. Because YOU are the official guest, immediately go the guards and ask them to boot that banshee off the premises. They will do that without question. Although they might expect a bit of a 'tip', LOL.

I've also found that girls who normally would act like this typically do not want to go to such buildings, because they know they can't pull their bullshit or drama. If some Kenchic gives you excuses why she won't visit your place once you've told her where it is, take that as dodging a bullet and drop her.

An extra benefit: for those Kenchics who are serious about safety, they actually PREFER such buildings because they assume YOU won't be a criminal or killer endangering them. So I would advise to actively tell the ladies about where you stay, so they will feel safer.

Lastly, MOST Homestays do NOT register visitors, even places that have formal-looking security guards. So if you do stay at a place like that, then you'll be even freer to bring whomever you like, how many you like, at any times. Of course, these places may not be as safer as the securer homestays.[/QUOTE]Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge on the matter. I really appreciate it.

I am glad to hear that it's not necessary to alert the AirBnB host about my mongering intentions. I just get quite anxious because it understandably can be an awkward conversation, especially if the host doesn't allow it.

I also appreciate you pointing out the benefits of having a girl leave her ID with security. It never really occured to me that it'd assuage any security concerns she may have as well. Mongering in Thailand you kind of get used to the level of safety and just the expectation that girls will behave, so though you always have to have your visitors check in their IDs, the idea that it protects you and her sometimes I forget. Reading through some of the reports in this thread, I (please correct me if this is wrong or unfair) have seen that Kenyan women sometimes can bring quite a bit of trouble and perhaps are not as safe-easygoing guests as Thai women.

I will be sure to remind all my potential guests that they must bring their IDs. On the off chance that I do need security to handle an unruly guest, would it be wise to slip them some KSH even before the event? Like, slipping them the 5 $USD equivalent in KSH when I first check in just to build a rapport and get in their good graces so if things do get chaotic, they'll already be inclined to help me out?

I use [URL]Booking.com[/URL] for the first night in new locations. I move around until I find a location I want to stay then do some leg work. When booking, it varies. If booking for two is similar cost as for one, I book two. If it's significant, I either choose another booking or book for one then move quickly. Regardless, I've only been asked to pay for a guest once the morning after and it was Lambada in Mtwapa. Now, I stay at a guesthouse and I bring someone new day and night. It’s common among guests. I wouldn't worry about it.

I am on my way back to Africa and have to book a hotel in Nairobi. I have always stayed at the Stanley Hotel in the Central Biz District. It has great rooms and is super friendly to guests.

HOWEVER, the wifi sucks.

Can someone recommend a hotel with excellent wifi that is girl friendly? I really hate struggling with emails and not being able to easily access web sites.

Thanks, MG.

[QUOTE=Mahku;2887159]Hi all. The girls that came to my room, all from Tinder, were allowed in for free after registration at the front desk. Sometimes they didn't even bother with the registration, especially if it was earlier in the evening. My booking was for 2 people anyway. And it may help that I'm VIP status in Radisson Rewards, equivalent to the former Platinum status. But I have a feeling it's the same for everybody.

The hotel is in a great location. Short ride to Westlands. The tollway entrance is fairly close, so rides to and from the airport don't take long.

The Arboretum, a tree park that appears to be a former colonial estate, is a great place for a run or a power walk, especially in the cool Nairobi climate. The area is secure and quiet, but not far from action. The bar, restaurant, and pool here seem to attract groups or pairs of probably upper middle class office girl / student types.[/QUOTE]Mahku, your inbox is full so I could not pm you. Is the wifi good at the Radisson?

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2892478]Mahku, your inbox is full so I could not pm you. Is the wifi good at the Radisson?[/QUOTE]Yes, the wifi was fine the whole time, including for video calls.

Hello,

I am looking to venture to Kenya (Mombasa and Nairobi), been doing some research here by RTTF and online via news articles, YouTube. While I am getting an idea, a lot of gaps remain so I would like to get explicit answers to my questions, not just get a vague, soft feel before I commit.

Is there anyone here I can PM directly to ask probably some 5 to 10 questions?

Please let me know. I'd be glad to make a friend and share my experiences if you got questions for me.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2892476]I am on my way back to Africa and have to book a hotel in Nairobi. I have always stayed at the Stanley Hotel in the Central Biz District. It has great rooms and is super friendly to guests.

HOWEVER, the wifi sucks.

Can someone recommend a hotel with excellent wifi that is girl friendly? I really hate struggling with emails and not being able to easily access web sites.

Thanks, MG.[/QUOTE]I have been there last year. Supre guest friendly, so friendly that the girl at the reception asked me if I had a nice fuck.

Hi everyone,

I am thinking of staying for a week at the Holiday Inn attached to the Two Rivers Mall. I am a late forties Canadian Caucasian that is in good shape and look young for my age. What would be my success of talking to random women at the mall between the ages of 25 too 45 and progressing to drinks / dinner and fun back at my hotel? What about tinder, do you think girls would be willing to come to Twoo Rivers Mall to meet me? Or is it better to stay somewhere else? Thanks so much for your help.

[QUOTE=CAExpert;2895415]Hi everyone,

I am thinking of staying for a week at the Holiday Inn attached to the Two Rivers Mall. I am a late forties Canadian Caucasian that is in good shape and look young for my age. What would be my success of talking to random women at the mall between the ages of 25 too 45 and progressing to drinks / dinner and fun back at my hotel? What about tinder, do you think girls would be willing to come to Twoo Rivers Mall to meet me? Or is it better to stay somewhere else? Thanks so much for your help.[/QUOTE]

You will probably find some success talking to women, from my experience, but it won't just be super easy. Not sure what your experiences are, but having been to a few mongering destinations, like in Colombia, chicks are pretty willing to fuck off the rip, they know you want them and most of the ones in the gringo areas are there for that. Kenya is definitely more subtle, unless you are at bar/nightclub where westerners hang on as do pros then it's similar. From what I've read Tinder will be much easier. The people who are there currently for mongering purposes should be able to give you good advice. I've been 5 times to Nairobi, but only had a few experiences. Good luck!!

1st let me start with I know, I know. RTFF. I have and I will go back and re-read. That said looking for some advice. I'll be there in late May, early June on a family trip. I will not have a lot of free time and I definitely will not be able to go out at night on my own, and even if by some miracle I'm able to, I won't have a place to bring anyone. Therefore I'm asking the Nairobi experts here, what are some good places that I maybe able to goto during the day if I get 2-3 hours of freedom? I'm staying initially in Hurlingham, then in Village Market and finally most likely Garden City. I had some small success near Hurlingham at a massage place previously. I also was able to just get a BJ at a massage place near Westlands once, but it seemed like I got good mileage there and it wasn't a common thing. Both places I just happened to walk by and then at a later time went back and went in.

If any one has specific day time recommendations please help a fellow monger out.

Hello friends I'm visiting Nairobi for short time like a week or so and I google escorts in Nairobi and I had couple of websites come up my question is how safe and accurate these websites are having an escort from the sites to come to your incall or you go their incalls.

Sorry if this has been asked before.

[QUOTE=JoeF479;2895470]1st let me start with I know, I know. RTFF. I have and I will go back and re-read. That said looking for some advice. I'll be there in late May, early June on a family trip. I will not have a lot of free time and I definitely will not be able to go out at night on my own, and even if by some miracle I'm able to, I won't have a place to bring anyone. Therefore I'm asking the Nairobi experts here, what are some good places that I maybe able to goto during the day if I get 2-3 hours of freedom? I'm staying initially in Hurlingham, then in Village Market and finally most likely Garden City. I had some small success near Hurlingham at a massage place previously. I also was able to just get a BJ at a massage place near Westlands once, but it seemed like I got good mileage there and it wasn't a common thing. Both places I just happened to walk by and then at a later time went back and went in.

If any one has specific day time recommendations please help a fellow monger out.[/QUOTE]Just get on Tinder dude. I'm currently in Mombasa with a 14 hour lay over in Nairobi flying out. Changed my location to Nairobi and I shit you not had over 200 likes in a day. Select one, get it done, come to their house or rent something, it's not rocket science really, TIA.

[QUOTE=MrJibb;2898241]Just get on Tinder dude. I'm currently in Mombasa with a 14 hour lay over in Nairobi flying out. Changed my location to Nairobi and I shit you not had over 200 likes in a day. Select one, get it done, come to their house or rent something, it's not rocket science really, TIA.[/QUOTE]What's the best approach with Tinder? Do you just openly ask them for a hookup, or is there a more subtle way of doing it?

There's absolutely no chance I'm getting on tinder. I have a family. Judge me if you want, but remember we are all mongers here. I was long before I met my wife, and I've tried to reform myself, but I just love pussy and the thrill of new pussy too much. I'm a terrible human being I know.

So would love for a local to offer some advice on a good spot if I can slip away for a few hours.

[QUOTE=MrJibb;2898241]Just get on Tinder dude. I'm currently in Mombasa with a 14 hour lay over in Nairobi flying out. Changed my location to Nairobi and I shit you not had over 200 likes in a day. Select one, get it done, come to their house or rent something, it's not rocket science really, TIA.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kavkaz48;2898961]What's the best approach with Tinder? Do you just openly ask them for a hookup, or is there a more subtle way of doing it?[/QUOTE]I simply say that I'm visiting for vacation and hoping to find a special lady to meet and spend time with. Once I screen out the obvious hard core P4 P sex workers and those with kids, I chat with a select few on WhatsApp. I never promise a full blown relationship, but I'll leave open the possibility. Once I find 2-3 I want to meet, they are real girlfriend experiences. I have yet to select one who didn't practically want to tear off my clothes once we met. No discussions about money, though I'll sometimes spring a few bux for their Uber ride.

I'm goin next month for the first time so I splurged for the Tinder Gold. I matched with a bunch, but They've all been straight headaches. I hope its better on the ground when I get there. Are there any places like the Brasilian termas to take care of your business in Mombasa Nairobi. I just don't need a chica around all the time.

[QUOTE=Lakeside32;2899405]I'm goin next month for the first time so I splurged for the Tinder Gold. I matched with a bunch, but They've all been straight headaches. I hope its better on the ground when I get there. Are there any places like the Brasilian termas to take care of your business in Mombasa Nairobi. I just don't need a chica around all the time.[/QUOTE]Why do you say chica as if Kenya is a Spanish speaking country? You do not have to have a girl around all the time. She will come and get the money and go back home.

No need to do it so early. I started when I got there. I was only there 3 days and had more action than I could shake a stick at. For me, Tinder turned up zero matches. That Bumble was a gold mine though.

Go to 207 if you want to fuck girls on premises. 4000 shillings ($27) for 90 minutes. Going to write my reports on everything when I get a chance.

[QUOTE=Lakeside32;2899405]I'm goin next month for the first time so I splurged for the Tinder Gold. I matched with a bunch, but They've all been straight headaches. I hope its better on the ground when I get there. Are there any places like the Brasilian termas to take care of your business in Mombasa Nairobi. I just don't need a chica around all the time.[/QUOTE]If you want Brasilian termas guess what. Go to Brazil. While Prostitution is NOT illegal running a brothel is. In Africa is free enterprise system. You can go to massage parlors or there's a few strip clubs in River Road. Take numbers and fix a date. Tinder a headache? LOL. Welcome to Africa.

Mwalimu.

FYI, as has been discussed previously, sexy toys are illegal in Kenya and bringing them in to the country, through customs, for visiting your lady or finding one or a few to spend time with, is not advisable as it will be confiscated and you'll be slapped with a hefty fine. I've been 2 months in Kenya now and found my special lady here, which I'm greatful for. She's running her own business here selling sex toys in Kenya out of her shop / shelfspace in Nairobi as well as through social media to local women mainly, but obviously I thought of this forum as it's been a topic of discussion before.

If anyone is interested in getting one or a few items for some extra spice, send me a message and I can hook you up. Fast shipping can be sorted to any location country wide, hotel or local pick up point. I know many girls (and guys) would like some extra spice and fun playing around but it's quite difficult to find these items in Kenya. Payment can be made through mpesa, paypal / similar or through crypto for more anonymity if required. Not trying to make any money for myself, just helping my lady out making some money on her own. Aloha.

[QUOTE=MrJibb;2899486]FYI, as has been discussed previously, sexy toys are illegal in Kenya and bringing them in to the country, through customs, for visiting your lady or finding one or a few to spend time with, is not advisable as it will be confiscated and you'll be slapped with a hefty fine. I've been 2 months in Kenya now and found my special lady here, which I'm greatful for. She's running her own business here selling sex toys in Kenya out of her shop / shelfspace in Nairobi as well as through social media to local women mainly, but obviously I thought of this forum as it's been a topic of discussion before.

If anyone is interested in getting one or a few items for some extra spice, send me a message and I can hook you up. Fast shipping can be sorted to any location country wide, hotel or local pick up point. I know many girls (and guys) would like some extra spice and fun playing around but it's quite difficult to find these items in Kenya. Payment can be made through mpesa, paypal / similar or through crypto for more anonymity if required. Not trying to make any money for myself, just helping my lady out making some money on her own. Aloha.[/QUOTE]I've brought sex toys into Kenya numerous times in my checked bag. I've never had a problem.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2899442]For me, Tinder turned up zero matches. That Bumble was a gold mine though.
[/QUOTE]Interesting. Was in Mombasa in June and November; incredible amount of matches on my Gold-Tinder. So, next time I will try Bumble, too. Thanks.

Saw giraffe's went on a tour of Kibera and met some nice young girls.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2899797]Interesting. Was in Mombasa in June and November; incredible amount of matches on my Gold-Tinder. So, next time I will try Bumble, too. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I have a 6. 5 hrs layover at Kenyatta Airport, Narobi. I don't feel like going through immigration, and was just wondering if there is fun to be had at the airport. Long shot, I know. But well, one never knows (and yes I read the forum).

All the best!

*Turns out I have entered my grumpy and bitter curmudgeon phase of life.

Planned on having a sex-centered trip to Nairobi for a little under 2 weeks. I cut it short and left in 5 days. Couldn't bear it.

My mongering experience has been entirely in SEA and one short stint in Sosua. My last field report was in Thailand, and it was also a jaded and disenchanted report. Seems like a pattern is appearing and perhaps it's a ME problem. I think I may just be becoming a bitter old man. Much sooner than I thought I would. All that just to give readers full disclosure that my report may not be applicable to the average person who visits and mongers in Nairobi; I am just particularly jaded and don't put up with much shit.

Coming from Thailand, I obviously expected Nairobi to be nowhere close to as nice as any Thai cities, but I wasn't quite prepared for how terrible Nairobi would be. My apartment was in Westlands and it was lackluster to say the least. Scratch that. It was a dump. Was situated near a club I guess and wasn't sound insulated at all so you hear raucous music until the wee hours of the morning. The apartment itself was tiny, and the hot water would cut in and out like the water heater was struggling for its life.

If you think traffic in SEA is bad, wait till you get a glimpse at the shitshow that is Kenyan traffic. You'll be waiting in traffic for an eternity because drivers have to fight their way for an inch on streets where there's not even any traffic signals or any signage to control traffic. Cars are constantly running on near E, and 1 out of every 2 Bolts / Ubers I took the driver had to stop to get gas or fill their tires. They do this without asking you and consequently add another chunk of time to your ETA because you have to fight to get back into traffic. Also, the cars here never have their AC on and so you're left to bake in shitboxes that have their windows rolled down.

Which leads me to my next point. The windows being rolled down inevitably results in beggars coming to your window during stand-still traffic and aggressively trying to get your money. At best, it'll just be a shithead mother carrying her child and shoving her child in your face while she asks you for money to feed the kid. At worst, you'll have an aggressive prick literally reach into the car and try to feel you up or grab something off of you. Had to yell at the driver to roll his damn windows up because it apparently wasn't obvious that a passenger wouldn't take too kindly to being assaulted in traffic.

In the end, this all wouldn't matter in the grand scheme of things if the women were worth it. My goal, after all, was to fuck. I didn't care about exploring this shithole city, and I couldn't care less to try any of the food. During my 5-day trip, slept with at least 2 women a day. One day out of the 5, I slept with 3. I paid them all 5 K shillings, with some getting another 1 K for transport. Some were good women that listened to my commands, but quite a few of them were terrible performers and were quite unwilling to follow through with what we discussed.

Along with this, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE WOMEN SMELLED AWFUL. I cannot for the life of me understand it. They all, supposedly, took showers but they all wreaked of body odor. Well, to be accurate, they had this sickening combination of perfume mixed with body odor that makes me nauseated just recalling. I don't understand how this happens. It completely ruined sex and was the final and largest straw that broke the camel's back and made me cut my trip short and fly back home defeated.

To say I am disappointed would be woefully understating my thoughts. My last trip report about Pattaya was quite negative, but I now understand I was quite unfair. I've come to this realization after seeing and experiencing Kenyan women. I will not take the hygiene, the submissiveness, and the skincare of Thai women for granted moving forward after having experienced the abject terrible conditions I found Kenyan women to be in. I sought a mongering trip to Nairobi because I sought curvy and more sexually aggressive women in bed, but what I got was women with poor skin, abhorrent body odor, and just plain unpleasantness.

Maybe 5 days wasn't long enough to break through and overcome the unpleasantries I came across in Nairobi, but I do not care to waste any more time or money to find out. Maybe this is just the ramblings of a bitter curmudgeon, but I left Nairobi absolutely disgusted. I am in disbelief with myself that I actually stomached my commitment to fucking 2 women a day. It was not worth it. I should have just gone back to SEA or just jerked off.

The silver lining in all of this is that this was a humbling and a good trip for introspection. I made a dumb choice because of the little head. I knew that Nairobi wouldn't be anywhere near as nice as SEA, but I thought it'd be worth it just to sleep with beautiful shapely African women. I was wrong. It was much worse than I thought, and the women were terrible.

Moving forward, maybe I will try South America or just retreat back to SEA. Despite being similarly impoverished, Laos and Cambodia blow Nairobi out of the water in terms of women. I found SEA farm girls kept their hygiene and skincare better than college girls in Nairobi.

Africa is not for me it seems.


**EDIT: I forgot to mention my experience at the airport. The Nairobi airport is an absolute shitshow and was the rotten, shit-covered cherry on top. You go through security something like 4 different times, and then, if you're lucky like I was, you get your bags randomly searched before you can board your plane. The security queues each time are absolute madhouses where people are frantically trying to get through because they're about to miss their flights. When you pass your first security check, you queue for passport control and you witness yet another hysterical scene: childish passport control officers slinging shit and acting in the most unprofessional manners just to inconvenience and stress passengers. You'll be waiting in a queue that moves at a snail's pace...only to have it pushed BACK more often than FORWARD because you'll have these panic-stricken passengers about to miss their flight frantically ushered to the front. Again, just to clarify, I don't blame these passengers at all; I got to the airport 4 hours before my flight and I only barely made it to my flight because of all the dumbass, for-show security measures and bureaucracy. Don't believe me about the for-show, useless nature of the security? My taxi driver told me to give the pre-airport checkpoint bribe money so I could just skip the security checkpoint and didn't have to exit the car. I saw the same shit happen in the open for other checkpoints. Just fucking ridiculous and just a fitting last fuck you to visitors before they leave the shithole country.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2900953]My mongering experience has been entirely in SEA and one short stint in Sosua. My last field report was in Thailand, and it was also a jaded and disenchanted report. Seems like a pattern is appearing and perhaps it's a ME problem. I think I may just be becoming a bitter old man. Much sooner than I thought I would. All that just to give readers full disclosure that my report may not be applicable to the average person who visits and mongers in Nairobi; I am just particularly jaded and don't put up with much shit.

Coming from Thailand, I obviously expected Nairobi to be nowhere close to as nice as any Thai cities, but I wasn't quite prepared for how terrible Nairobi would be.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] I have lived in Pattaya for 15 years, but I had a blast in Kenya. I was about to extend my stay while you cut yours short. W Place Apartments was plastered all over this thread so that is where I stayed. No problems. Ran into other Americans and Africans that live in America staying there. Well there was 1 problem. The apartment did not have AC and one chick was talking about how hot she was and that she could not sleep like that, so she wanted to go home but will come back the next day.

Traffic was not that bad. I only had 2 incidents of being stuck in it. No problem because I am relaxing doing shit on my phone. Was not even really hot during my stay. I am from Atlanta and Kenya had nothing on our summers for my few days.

I only had 1 girl that smelled. No deodorant is what it was. Chicks were getting angry with me because I WAS NOT telling them to come over. Little time and 1 dick was my problem. My problem with the chicks was all that weave. I hate chicks with fake hair, but what the fuck can you do in Africa. Then it seems all of their hairlines start in the middle of the top of their heads. Is that from wearing that fake hair all of those years? Because I did not really see it in the 50 amd 60 year old pictures of women in the museums. Only 1 chick that came over had her natural hair. Despite that I had a ball.

Now what I am about to agree with you 100% on is that fucking airport bullshit (oh, and the uber not having gas). Must be the worst one in the world. I didn't know what the hell dude was talking about when we got to the airport and he said I had to get out and walk through security. The first thing I thought about was him stealing my shit. Then I saw everybody else doing the same thing. Still no idea why. I could have just left the shit I was not supposed to have in the car since you don't bring your bags and they do not check the car or driver. Then he had to go up to the front of some line before dropping me off. I am like mf let me out here. I do not want to carry my shit so far. But he was talking about the police watching or whatever.

Then the line to get inside the airport was long as fuck. It was snaking around. Even still, that one was quicker than the security line after paspport control. Long ass wait in the check in line. I checked in online but still had to check in my scuba gear. My flight was supposed to leave at 1145 pm but when I got to the check in desk the chick said 1 am. During my trip I was on 4 different African airlines and all 4 of those mfs was at least 1 hour late. All the while during all the security shit, I was saying to myself that I should have arrived 2 hours earlier. I called Uber at 8 pm from Westlands for the 1145 pm flight. I figured out the problem in the second security line when when it was my turn at bat. The same mf that looks at the xray machine is the one that has to search the bag if he sees something suspicious. I carry plastic esting utensils and that mf took them out of my bag bending them and shit. I said why do why'all always put yours hands all over my shit. I have to eat with that. You can plainly see that it is plastic. Then I was in duty free putzing around and some guy at a nearby gate missed his flight. He was raising holy hell, and rightfully so.

I went to the club to eat. Went the the gate to wait. I saw people getting up in line like we were about to board, so I got up too. After about 2 t minutes of seeing some folks grouping up at the front of the line one of the agents walked down the line. I asked her what the problem was. She said that some people do not have the proper documents. Evidently wherever they came from needs a yellow fever car to enter either Thailand or China where the flight was ending, but they did not have it. Well make some type of announcement instead of having the blind leading the blind. Most of us were in a line we did not have to be in because we saw people lining up.

I can't wait to get back to Kenya, but I am not looking forward to that airport again. I will write more reports on my experiences later. Then I learned that Black Panther Wakanda stuff evidently comes from the Swahili Wakenya.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2900953]*Turns out I have entered my grumpy and bitter curmudgeon phase of life.

Planned on having a sex-centered trip to Nairobi for a little under 2 weeks. I cut it short and left in 5 days. Couldn't bear it.

My mongering experience has been entirely in SEA and one short stint in Sosua. My last field report was in Thailand, and it was also a jaded and disenchanted report. Seems like a pattern is appearing and perhaps it's a ME problem. I think I may just be becoming a bitter old man. Much sooner than I thought I would. All that just to give readers full disclosure that my report may not be applicable to the average person who visits and mongers in Nairobi; I am just particularly jaded and don't put up with much shit.

Coming from Thailand, I obviously expected Nairobi to be nowhere close to as nice as any Thai cities, but I wasn't quite prepared for how terrible Nairobi would be. My apartment was in Westlands and it was lackluster to say the least. Scratch that. It was a dump. Was situated near a club I guess and wasn't sound insulated at all so you hear raucous music until the wee hours of the morning. The apartment itself was tiny, and the hot water would cut in and out like the water heater was struggling for its life.

If you think traffic in SEA is bad, wait till you get a glimpse at the shitshow that is Kenyan traffic. You'll be waiting in traffic for an eternity because drivers have to fight their way for an inch on streets where there's not even any traffic signals or any signage to control traffic. Cars are constantly running on near E, and 1 out of every 2 Bolts / Ubers I took the driver had to stop to get gas or fill their tires. .[/QUOTE]I will never take a recommendation from someone who is not a trusted friend again about a destination, but an objective review like urs is what I needed to shorten my trip or not. I'm Definitely going to shorten it and make the best of it. I only have one Tinder chick that I'm curious about, she has the body I like so I was direct with her about my intentions, but this chick is young and annoying asf, so hopefully after that one customary meal I can hit it and split.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2900953]*Turns out I have entered my grumpy and bitter curmudgeon phase of life.

Planned on having a sex-centered trip to Nairobi for a little under 2 weeks. I cut it short and left in 5 days. Couldn't bear it.

My mongering experience has been entirely in SEA and one short stint in Sosua. My last field report was in Thailand, and it was also a jaded and disenchanted report. Seems like a pattern is appearing and perhaps it's a ME problem. I think I may just be becoming a bitter old man. Much sooner than I thought I would. All that just to give readers full disclosure that my report may not be applicable to the average person who visits and mongers in Nairobi; I am just particularly jaded and don't put up with much shit.

[/QUOTE]Thai women are known for their submissive nature. I have met Kenyan women who like to be submissive and there are plenty of them.

As for the smell, it's a matter of luck, but Thai women also smell bad from their * When I was in Kenya I noticed that they don't wash their hair 1 or 2 weeks, because of their hair style and this is disgusting.

By the way, 5000 shillings is a lot, you probably didn't negotiate with them because they can go down to 3000 shillings.

Taxis: I was in Nairobi in December and most of my trips were with Bolt. I didn't experience any problem with traffic jams. Of course, there are short traffic jams in Nairobi but that's normal, it's not something that bothered me. The drivers in Nairobi really drive like crazy so I don't recommend taking a motorbike taxi.

The beggars: You do understand that you have come to a third world country, right? Next time don't sit next to the driver, sit behind him and close your window, no one will bother you. They came to me too and I just ignored them. There are small children walking who won't leave you and it's very annoying. You have to keep your cell phone and your things, I don't recommend keeping them in your pocket. Buy a pouch and put your things there.

The Westland apartment: Sorry you experienced this. I also experienced this on Friday. I stayed at the location for one day and ran away in the middle of the night because of the loud music.

I recommend reading reviews on a booking site before you book a room, there are negative experiences there and you can learn from them.

Security at the airport: I personally had a security check three times when I returned to my country. I had an outside check when I put my suitcase on the floor and the dog smelled it and the second time at the entrance to the terminal and the third time at the entrance to the departures. I didn't experience any problem, but maybe that day your experience was different than mine.

In conclusion: next time you will come for a shorter period of a week, and if you feel well, then next time you will fly for a longer period.

Don't expect cleanliness and discipline from a third world country, there is theft and violence there but you can avoid it if you are careful about going to dangerous places and you keep your things and don't trust anyone but you.

I recommend you, try to identify red signs on a girl who is not going to listen to your instructions and is just looking to finish quickly and go with the payment.

A red sign, for example, if she straight up talks about sex and doesn't ask how you are, if she started a conversation for the first time.

And there are many more signs, but you will have to recognize them through experience.

Kenyan girls have big ass and know how to fuck much better than Thai girls.

Next time you will come with a different attitude and more prepared for everything. I wish you good luck.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2901034]Thai women are known for their submissive nature. I have met Kenyan women who like to be submissive and there are plenty of them.

As for the smell, it's a matter of luck, but Thai women also smell bad from their * When I was in Kenya I noticed that they don't wash their hair 1 or 2 weeks, because of their hair style and this is disgusting.

By the way, 5000 shillings is a lot, you probably didn't negotiate with them because they can go down to 3000 shillings.

Taxis: I was in Nairobi in December and most of my trips were with Bolt. I didn't experience any problem with traffic jams. Of course, there are short traffic jams in Nairobi but that's normal, it's not something that bothered me. The drivers in Nairobi really drive like crazy so I don't recommend taking a motorbike taxi.

The beggars: You do understand that you have come to a third world country, right? Next time don't sit next to the driver, sit behind him and close your window, no one will bother you. They came to me too and I just ignored them. There are small children walking who won't leave you and it's very annoying. You have to keep your cell phone and your things, I don't recommend keeping them in your pocket. Buy a pouch and put your things there.

The Westland apartment: Sorry you experienced this. I also experienced this on Friday. I stayed at the location for one day and ran away in the middle of the night because of the loud music.

I recommend reading reviews on a booking site before you book a room, there are negative experiences there and you can learn from them.

Security at the airport: I personally had a security check three times when I returned to my country. I had an outside check when I put my suitcase on the floor and the dog smelled it and the second time at the entrance to the terminal and the third time at the entrance to the departures. I didn't experience any problem, but maybe that day your experience was different than mine.

In conclusion: next time you will come for a shorter period of a week, and if you feel well, then next time you will fly for a longer period.

Don't expect cleanliness and discipline from a third world country, there is theft and violence there but you can avoid it if you are careful about going to dangerous places and you keep your things and don't trust anyone but you.

I recommend you, try to identify red signs on a girl who is not going to listen to your instructions and is just looking to finish quickly and go with the payment.

A red sign, for example, if she straight up talks about sex and doesn't ask how you are, if she started a conversation for the first time.

And there are many more signs, but you will have to recognize them through experience.

Kenyan girls have big ass and know how to fuck much better than Thai girls.

Next time you will come with a different attitude and more prepared for everything. I wish you good luck.[/QUOTE]Good points.

The smell may have come from the hair if you have heard that they go without washing their hair for weeks. That is a good point to bring up because I was not a fan of their hair at all as well. Mr. E mentioned how many of them have weaves and that is very true in my experience. I hate that shit. Whether it was from the hair or from the rest of the body, it makes no difference to me. The odor was present and it was present in every woman I brought to my bedroom. So there's clearly something up with the typical Kenyan woman.

On 5 K vs 3 K shillings. 5 K shillings was the negotiated rate I reached. There were some girls that were willing to get down to 4 K, but many simply became hostile when I threw any numbers below 5 K. So from that point 5 K became the price point I became accustomed to offering the women. 5 K is about $36 USD. 3 K is about $21 USD. I don't really care about a difference of $15 when it comes to sex.

Laos and Cambodia are 3rd world countries. I NEVER had any beggars act as aggressively and be such assholes as the ones I encountered in Kenya.

I read reviews for my accommodation and nothing was said about the noise. It was an AirBnB and looking back now I realize that the reviews were just fake plugs from probably friends or family of the lister. Just good old Kenyan deceit.

On traffic: Agreed that the motos in Kenya are somehow worse than in SEA. In SEA, I take motos everywhere because they save significant time in traffic. I'm obviously aware that it's quite a dangerous endeavor to ride a moto in SEA as well, but Kenyan motos are next level stupid and dangerous. Maybe it's because I'm more familiar with SEA traffic, but I doubt it. Traffic in Kenya was just a madhouse with no discernable logic or patterns or even signage / traffic control to anything that resembles orderly traffic. In SEA, you at least get SOME signage and traffic lights to control traffic.

I will say that Kenyan women, the good ones, did fuck better than Thai girls. Did not come across any starfish fucks. So they have that feather in their caps. That is the only real positive I can say about my time in Kenya.

There will be no next time. I very much regret wasting my money and, even worse, my precious vacation time going there. I will be going back to SEA with a renewed appreciation for women that take care of themselves, I. E. Women that shower regularly, take care of their skin, and take care of their hair.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2901146]Good points.

The smell may have come from the hair if you have heard that they go without washing their hair for weeks. That is a good point to bring up because I was not a fan of their hair at all as well. Mr. E mentioned how many of them have weaves and that is very true in my experience. I hate that shit. Whether it was from the hair or from the rest of the body, it makes no difference to me. The odor was present and it was present in every woman I brought to my bedroom. So there's clearly something up with the typical Kenyan woman.

On 5 K vs 3 K shillings. 5 K shillings was the negotiated rate I reached. There were some girls that were willing to get down to 4 K, but many simply became hostile when I threw any numbers below 5 K. So from that point 5 K became the price point I became accustomed to offering the women. 5 K is about $36 USD. 3 K is about $21 USD. I don't really care about a difference of $15 when it comes to sex.

Laos and Cambodia are 3rd world countries. I NEVER had any beggars act as aggressively and be such assholes as the ones I encountered in Kenya.

I read reviews for my accommodation and nothing was said about the noise. It was an AirBnB and looking back now I realize that the reviews were just fake plugs from probably friends or family of the lister. Just good old Kenyan deceit.

On traffic: Agreed that the motos in Kenya are somehow worse than in SEA. In SEA, I take motos everywhere because they save significant time in traffic. I'm obviously aware that it's quite a dangerous endeavor to ride a moto in SEA as well, but Kenyan motos are next level stupid and dangerous. Maybe it's because I'm more familiar with SEA traffic, but I doubt it. Traffic in Kenya was just a madhouse with no discernable logic or patterns or even signage / traffic control to anything that resembles orderly traffic. In SEA, you at least get SOME signage and traffic lights to control traffic.

I will say that Kenyan women, the good ones, did fuck better than Thai girls. Did not come across any starfish fucks. So they have that feather in their caps. That is the only real positive I can say about my time in Kenya.

There will be no next time. I very much regret wasting my money and, even worse, my precious vacation time going there. I will be going back to SEA with a renewed appreciation for women that take care of themselves, I. E. Women that shower regularly, take care of their skin, and take care of their hair.[/QUOTE]I can deal with a lot in the world of p4 p that we partake in, but I draw the line at smells. If a chick smells funny, be it hair, ass or pussy, I'm calling it a day.

[QUOTE=JoeF479;2895468]You will probably find some success talking to women, from my experience, but it won't just be super easy. Not sure what your experiences are, but having been to a few mongering destinations, like in Colombia, chicks are pretty willing to fuck off the rip, they know you want them and most of the ones in the gringo areas are there for that. Kenya is definitely more subtle, unless you are at bar/nightclub where westerners hang on as do pros then it's similar. From what I've read Tinder will be much easier. The people who are there currently for mongering purposes should be able to give you good advice. I've been 5 times to Nairobi, but only had a few experiences. Good luck!![/QUOTE]I always treat ladies with respect and it works. The hotel staff seemed to be all over me but I was not interested as that is too close to home. I had lunch in a mall restaurant and the lovely young lady was pleased to meet me after work and go directly to my room and fuck my eyeballs out. I do not remember how much I gave her but just a small amount.

Strange. In 20 years living and coming and going in and out of JKIA airport a lot I have never had a bad time there and long queues. Fingers crossed it stays like that.

Yes, women can smell, it is the hair. Shower them and spray their hair.

I have noticed and met plenty of Asia mongers having a change of scenery and coming to Kenya. They always compare the two. Do not compare, they are totally different cultures. I visit Thailand twice a year and both are great. But different.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2901218]Strange. In 20 years living and coming and going in and out of JKIA airport a lot I have never had a bad time there and long queues. Fingers crossed it stays like that.

Yes, women can smell, it is the hair. Shower them and spray their hair.

I have noticed and met plenty of Asia mongers having a change of scenery and coming to Kenya. They always compare the two. Do not compare, they are totally different cultures. I visit Thailand twice a year and both are great. But different.[/QUOTE]First off: Thanks again for all the advice. Despite my trip not necessarily going the way I had hoped, I can appreciate all the help you gave me.

I think anyone reading my report should be aware that perhaps my actual short time on the ground and my finicky personality might mean that my negative experience in Kenya may not be that applicable to them. Basically, you can take my report with a grain of salt.

I think my expectations for the trip were a bit soured because again my sole purpose was to monger. I didn't have the time and frankly didn't care to enjoy any other parts of Nairobi. I also, and this may be because of the short trip or just my personality, approached women not really playing the game.

To clarify, I mean I didn't really care to play the flirting game with these women. I told myself I didn't have the time to play the game, but realistically I can honestly say I'm just at the age where I don't have the patience to pretend to relate or be interested in these women in any manner except sexually. I do not find them interesting, and I do not really care to play the role of flirt. I also am a punctual individual, and I was not shy about expressing my frustration when most of them arrived late. To expand on this, when I would schedule and confirm with a girl that I would like her at my apartment by 2:00 PM, she would say yes. 2:00 PM arrives and she says she cannot be there yet. Let's push to 3:30 PM. 3:30 PM becomes 4:30. I eventually see her at 5:00. This happened more often than not. That type of disregard for my time, specifically my vacation time, is unacceptable and I pissed off quite a few of the girls "rushing them".

Say what you will about Thai Time, in my experience Thai girls are usually 30 minutes off the mark and are much more likely to be punctual than Kenyan women. They also are apologetic when they arrive, whereas Kenyan women seem offended that you dare to be upset that they have wasted your time. One girl was upset I had her wait at the security gate for 10 minutes without responding to her texts to let her up. After she was 2 hours late to our schedule romp. That is the type of entitlement and annoying attitudes I experienced from many a Kenyan woman during my short trip.

Again, I appreciate all the help from the posters and Kenyan veterans that have written reports or even directly answered my questions. Apologies that my trip did not go well and I couldn't report back positively, but I am just shooting straight about my short stint in Nairobi. Readers doing their due diligence should caution themselves taking my report as that helpful because it seems like Kenya requires a bit more patience and an understanding of life in Africa.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2901328]I think my expectations for the trip were a bit soured because again my sole purpose was to monger. I didn't have the time and frankly didn't care to enjoy any other parts of Nairobi.[/QUOTE]Maybe that was the problem. I did not go there for women. I went there to see the sights. And in the evening when I was dead tired from that all day, I got a chick to come over. I can't wait to go back to see other things and places at which time I will fuck some more chicks. But I am definitely not going there with the primary purpose of getting laid. I saw a lot and learned a lot. Getting pussy was just the cherry on top.

Hey Brother BPalacio, apologies again for such lonnng delay in responding! I returned from my Kenya trip in late Jan and since then have been very busy. I thought I was logged in the few times I checked this site, but I guess I wasn't, otherwise I would have seen your PM. I could have advised sooner and maybe your trip would have been better.

A few things, not just for you, anyone who's had recent trips to Kenya.

* Airport *.

I think the reason why it's been more-than-usual chaotic there is because of the two things: the so-called 'No Visa' process, and the extra luggage checking. Notice that both started about the same time. Maybe tourism has indeed picked up, making queues longer; and maybe the extra security is delaying getting bags & passengers moving.

I'm not making excuses or defending any of this. Kenya is a mess, even on a good day. But this might explain that.

* Smells *.

Like others have wrote, this is pretty weird to us who frequently visit or live / lived in KE. Me, in all the many-many years I've been in KE, I have NEVER even met a Kenchic who smelled bad. Not the malaya in the goneby era of downtown cheap pubs; not in the village, not from small town girls I've mongered; certainly not from any city girls, who pamper themselves just like any modern woman.

It is true that most won't wash their hair everyday due to wearing weaves or having a tight hairstyle. But they will wash if YOU offer to pay for a NEW hairdo!

But even with all that, bad smells. No Never, not in my reality. Not from their hair, their body odor, nor their pussies.

I'm so sorry for you guys that have run into this. Maybe, just maybe, it's because you're new to Africa / Africans?? I do know that Asians have certain 'scent' that we Westerners first notice; not bad but certainly distinctive. I vaguely remember my first time in Africa, I noticed the same. I'm sure they say the same about us!

Maybe you guys are so used to SEA, you no longer notice Asian BO. I'm sure I would, as I haven't been in that region since 2008.

*Airbnbs / Hotel *.

Am I missing something or nobody has openly stated which apt buildings or hotels they stayed in? SHARE! Please, this is what this site SHOULD be for.

For those of you who tried Abbs, don't post the entire link. I don't know if this site allows it. Instead, just post the number at the end of the link.

Anyway, I have written several times about both bogus Abbs and legit ones. How to spot phony reviews. Dealing with troublesome Hosts. And I've encouraged other Brothers in these forums to share & post their experiences. To be honest, I don't think even one has done so.

For all of you-- before you book an Airbnb, post that link number here. Then we all can look at the same listing, and help decide if it's a good choice or not. If we can get the EXACT name of the building or hotel, then we can search the nearby area for clubs or construction or noisy roads, anything that will kill a nice stay.

* ahh yes, The Girl-Friendly Experience (GFE) *.

For as much as Kenyans truly understand that sex and even relationships are mostly Transactional, they all still want the illusion of being Friends or Lovers. Even the most hardcore malaya doesn't want to be treated as if she is. What she is.

So in KE, you have play that game. Pretend she's your girlfriend. Even if for one night. {Who sang that song?

Now I DON'T mean spoil her eg buying expensive meals or gifts. {Like Al Bundy said, Six Dollars is too much money to spend on ANY woman!} But you do need to do the flirting / courting / foreplaying. Make the effort. And Kenya being still a semi-traditional culture, you as the Man have to initiate nearly everything.

Sure she'll still fuck brains out without doing so, just for the cash. But believe me. Believe US! There's an extra je ne sais pas! benefit to playing that little game. Hell, we vets have pulled stunning Kenchics just because our flirt skill was in Beast Mode. (Being wazungu and spending the money didn't hurt though LOL).

* Where did you pull those girls from?? *.

I'm not sure it's clear where you all are getting your girls. And how you're screening them. These are important factors.

First, as many a Brother here has stated, take it as the First Commandment: ALL KENYANS LIE.

As much as I hate apps, we got to join the 21st Century and use them. Tinder is the first source, the most direct, as everyone knows the score on what's being transacted. I used to like Badoo but no longer, too many games, too few good choices, and the UI had become more annoying. Tagged is TRASH. AfroIntroductions is still fine, although personally I feel the quality of offerings has gone down: now it's mostly 6 and 7's, alot of below-6's, with 9's being fake or scam profiles. Facebook can actually work, but needs alot more time to build up connections.

From there, you got to screen your Kenchic from first seeing her profile, to first contact, to getting her into your flat, to ending the connection even if kicking her OUT. Somewhere in that chain will be some lies. Just a matter of how much to put up with til your connection is ended. So don't completely dismiss a chick just because you catch some dishonesty.

My last trip, I had (at least) THREE ladies catfish their profile. I mean, really. The pictures were nothing like the reality. I knew this because I ALWAYS demand a videocall. Guess what-- when called on their BS, they just shrugged and continued the interaction. I only met one of them, and man oh man she actually had the best head game of all my 'dates' during my trip, and had the best GFE. She got annoying at the end, but I flew out without letting her know, so the 'breakup' was very easy, heehee.

* Come Back! *.

Brothers I know you had bad expereinces. But come back. We'll help make your next visit better enjoyable and unforgettable.

I have visited Kenya (both Nairobi and Mombasa) numerous times, and have very specific criteria for the girls I meet. I like them slim, spinner type if possible. None who have had children. And I highly prefer those who don't shave their pussies. I've never understood the shaving fetish. Thus, I take time screening girls. Then chatting on WhatsApp, well in advance of my trip. I have yet to be disappointed. I want the full girlfriend experience, as I find the whole P4 P transaction thing to be a total turnoff. My upcoming trip in 2 weeks will be my second time with a fabulous 23-year-old spinner I spent 10 days with last January.

Flying out of Mombasa to EU this coming week and will have a long lay-over in Nairobi, 9 am-11 pm. Suggestions on where I can find a nice roof-top pool to get a day-pass and spend the day? Other suggestions to spend the day? My girl from Diani will take the train to come to visit her family in Nairobi, arriving at 3 pm in the afternoon, meeting up with some of her friends in Nairobi to go out for food and drinks, but the morning and up till she arrives I'd like to explore a bit, then catch the last rays of sun at the pool, sipping good cocktails and enjoying crisp weather and sun for a change.

Suggestions for day-pass roof-top pools / hotels? Any that also offer the possibility to pay for a room for the day, to drop off luggage, shower and change, have some fun with my girl / girls?

I think it says something about the Kenyan girls as they are abundant on Stripchat.

Compared to the neighbouring countries they really stick out in numbers.

Usually there are less than 10 girls online from Uganda and none from Tanzania.

The only country that has some more girls online is South Africa.

While there are always more than 300 Kenyan girls of all sizes and shades of colour showing their pussy and performing requests.

Even lesbian couples, or those who are pretending so.

(This would be dangerous of course in Uganda).

Also you can see them smoking bhangi openly.

I think this is showing that Kenyan girls are more free and also willing to perform many different kind of shows.

Does anyone have experience with either of these places? Are there nice looking young working girls there (or non pros looking for a little extra money)? I will be in Nairobi next week and I am looking for semi-pros for fun.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2901777]Does anyone have experience with either of these places? Are there nice looking young working girls there (or non pros looking for a little extra money)? I will be in Nairobi next week and I am looking for semi-pros for fun.[/QUOTE]Gypsy bar no longer exists. Nairobi clubs depends on the nights, if it is a Friday or Saturday then you can find women. Head to CBD bars though that tends to be earlier evening and Westlands later on.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2901777]Does anyone have experience with either of these places? Are there nice looking young working girls there (or non pros looking for a little extra money)? I will be in Nairobi next week and I am looking for semi-pros for fun.[/QUOTE]Just go to brew bistro on Fri and Sat night in Westland and Havana you can find pro and semi-pro then go to boss den for mostly the Freelancer.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2901840]Gypsy bar no longer exists. Nairobi clubs depends on the nights, if it is a Friday or Saturday then you can find women. Head to CBD bars though that tends to be earlier evening and Westlands later on.[/QUOTE]What about weekdays. Which places are good then?

I use tagged because it is only $9. 99 a month (and I do one month when I travel to Kenya). It is not very good for Asia, but great for Kenya and the Dominican Republic.

I don't bother with the other sites, because I got banned from one (Tinder) and the others cannot possibly be any better.

For the record, I messaged about 15 women who met my specifications based on looks. I skipped the ones with ardent profiles about how men are pigs or swore they were saving their virginity for marriage. About 1/10 tagged girls are pretty to beautiful, in my opinion. I like them thin with nice curves. There are numerous girls to choose from when browsing. I have my current photo on the site (I am in my late 60's).

Of the 15 girls I messaged, 9 responded. I said a few nice things about their looks and asked them what they did for a living (almost none of them have jobs but some are in school). My age limitations were 18-27.

Of the 9 who responded, 8 of 9 were willing to meet me and spend the night for a small reward. The ninth said she is waiting for a husband and I did not push her. 1 on the 8 initially refused me ("I am not naughty" but last night she changed her mind. I am in Kenya now, and all the girls I have made plans with actually showed up. One girl brought a friend and the 3 of us spent several hours exploring life's possibilities the last two nights. I swear these two almost killed me. And when I pooped out after 2 hours, one of them was right up on my mini vibrator to get just one more orgasm before sleep. It's true that I "overpay" (15000 KES per night) but ass fucking one girl while she licks the pussy of another is a memory that I will always treasure.

Tagged works well. The other sites may be just as good, but I have great luck with tagged. I will add that I have met more than a dozen chicas in the Dominican Republic with tagged. In Manila and Bangkok I met NO ONE with Tagged.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2904003] It's true that I "overpay" (15000 KES per night) but ass fucking one girl while she licks the pussy of another is a memory that I will always treasure.

Tagged works well. The other sites may be just as good, but I have great luck with tagged. I will add that I have met more than a dozen chicas in the Dominican Republic with tagged. In Manila and Bangkok I met NO ONE with Tagged.[/QUOTE]Ouch. It pained my heart to hear you paid that much in Kenya.

Want to share what got you banned from tinder? I use that exclusively in NBO.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2901777]Does anyone have experience with either of these places? Are there nice looking young working girls there (or non pros looking for a little extra money)? I will be in Nairobi next week and I am looking for semi-pros for fun.[/QUOTE]As others said Brew bistro and havanas across the street are easy breezy. Actually its Kenya. If you don't look kenyan just point at a girl and tell her to come over.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2904003]I use tagged because it is only $9. 99 a month (and I do one month when I travel to Kenya). It is not very good for Asia, but great for Kenya and the Dominican Republic.

I don't bother with the other sites, because I got banned from one (Tinder) and the others cannot possibly be any better.

For the record, I messaged about 15 women who met my specifications based on looks. I skipped the ones with ardent profiles about how men are pigs or swore they were saving their virginity for marriage. About 1/10 tagged girls are pretty to beautiful, in my opinion. I like them thin with nice curves. There are numerous girls to choose from when browsing. I have my current photo on the site (I am in my late 60's).

Of the 15 girls I messaged, 9 responded. I said a few nice things about their looks and asked them what they did for a living (almost none of them have jobs but some are in school). My age limitations were 18-27.

Of the 9 who responded, 8 of 9 were willing to meet me and spend the night for a small reward. The ninth said she is waiting for a husband and I did not push her. 1 on the 8 initially refused me ("I am not naughty" but last night she changed her mind. I am in Kenya now, and all the girls I have made plans with actually showed up. One girl brought a friend and the 3 of us spent several hours exploring life's possibilities the last two nights. I swear these two almost killed me. And when I pooped out after 2 hours, one of them was right up on my mini vibrator to get just one more orgasm before sleep. It's true that I "overpay" (15000 KES per night) but ass fucking one girl while she licks the pussy of another is a memory that I will always treasure.

Tagged works well. The other sites may be just as good, but I have great luck with tagged. I will add that I have met more than a dozen chicas in the Dominican Republic with tagged. In Manila and Bangkok I met NO ONE with Tagged.[/QUOTE]Badoo has worked well for me in Kenya. I prefer a girlfriend experience as opposed to the explicit P4 P arrangement. Ultimately, I always give the "girlfriend" a modest gift at the end of my stay, but otherwise it's simply meals, drinks, etc. I see no shortage in slim girls in the 18-25 age range having no kids. The hardest part is selecting which ones I actually want to meet out of so many delicious choices offered.

I installed bumble last night. Premium and activated travel mode. 90 matches so far 😆128518;.

Now before I agree to some horrendous prices as I do not know the norm in Nairobi. How much would you pay for a pretty and youngish girl for the night? Not a 8/10 but could be a 6-7/10.

Whats the usually accepted rates. Don't want to risk offending any girls. One quoted me 150 USD for the night. Feels kinda expensive to me.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2904339]I installed bumble last night. Premium and activated travel mode. 90 matches so far 😆128518;.

Now before I agree to some horrendous prices as I do not know the norm in Nairobi. How much would you pay for a pretty and youngish girl for the night? Not a 8/10 but could be a 6-7/10.

Whats the usually accepted rates. Don't want to risk offending any girls. One quoted me 150 USD for the night. Feels kinda expensive to me.[/QUOTE]LOL that match ratio sounds like Nairobi.

That said $150 is what you would pay to keep her for 6 months.

For the night $20-$30. $40 if she brings a friend along.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2904045]Want to share what got you banned from tinder?[/QUOTE]I got banned for reporting a transvestite in the female section.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2904339]Now before I agree to some horrendous prices as I do not know the norm in Nairobi. How much would you pay for a pretty and youngish girl for the night? Not a 8/10 but could be a 6-7/10.

Whats the usually accepted rates. Don't want to risk offending any girls. One quoted me 150 USD for the night. Feels kinda expensive to me.[/QUOTE]It is all over this thread. 5000.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2904398]It is all over this thread. 5000.[/QUOTE]You can also find it for 3000-4000 kes for a night, depending on your look too. But do not agree more than 5,000. Always remember that the price is negotiable.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2904397]I got banned for reporting a transvestite in the female section.[/QUOTE]Dam. Ok note to self. Let me leave the trannies be. I have done that in the past myself.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2904453]You can also find it for 3000-4000 kes for a night, depending on your look too. But do not agree more than 5,000. Always remember that the price is negotiable.[/QUOTE]Yup. With current exchange this is about $37 USD.

I mean with 90+ matches he most likely can get by without paying at all.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2904528]

Yup. With current exchange this is about $37 USD.

I mean with 90+ matches he most likely can get by without paying at all.[/QUOTE]Agree. I was in Nairobi 8 days, and did sex with 5 girls free. But you need time to talk with them before going to Kenya. You need to build the relationship with them in conversation, and also understand what are their intentions.

You need to know that if you are talking with 100 girls, probably 70 of them will ask you some money to help them even before the meeting. In that case, don't fail for it! , don't give them money!.

The free thing is more complicated because even the girls who are not hookers want something from you.

If you are looking good, some of them will just want to be around you.

I recommend you all to try everything and see what is best for you.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2904719]Agree. I was in Nairobi 8 days, and did sex with 5 girls free. But you need time to talk with them before going to Kenya. You need to build the relationship with them in conversation, and also understand what are their intentions.

You need to know that if you are talking with 100 girls, probably 70 of them will ask you some money to help them even before the meeting. In that case, don't fail for it! , don't give them money!.

The free thing is more complicated because even the girls who are not hookers want something from you.

If you are looking good, some of them will just want to be around you.

I recommend you all to try everything and see what is best for you.[/QUOTE]If girls get the impression that there's a "chance" that you might fall in love with them and possibly petition them to come to your country, they'll fuck your brains out without even mentioning any sort of cash transaction. In my case, I never make any promises or commitments, I simply convey that I am "open" to such a scenario with the right girl. The sex is better because the girls get far more passionate than if they think it's simply a cash for pussy arrangement.

RG.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2904719]
You need to know that if you are talking with 100 girls, probably 70 of them will ask you some money to help them even before the meeting. In that case, don't fail for it! , don't give them money!.
[/QUOTE]Yes if there is one thing a newbie to NBO should know its this. Nearly all the girls will ask for money. During and after your trip. Ones that you have sex with and not. They may not even ask for much but once you're in their contacts brace yourself. Its will be endless. All newbies should learn to say no and keep those mpesas in your account. Even if it is just $5 they are asking for.

And yes one should know the kind of trip they want. If you wan to hit and run to the next it will not be the easiest thing to juggle many different women. Kenyans are always very late. For everything. So even trying to see two in one day it can be difficult. IMO Kenya is best if you want a GFE with two or three girls. Especially if you're there less than two weeks.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2904356]LOL that match ratio sounds like Nairobi.

That said $150 is what you would pay to keep her for 6 months.

For the night $20-$30. $40 if she brings a friend along.[/QUOTE]Wow. Insane. So she is just being greedy then. Cheers for that. I would have overpaid. Will definitely negotiate then.

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2904888]Wow. Insane. So she is just being greedy then.[/QUOTE]No. She is just trying to get what you are willing to pay. Somebody will pay it. There are guys in other threads that talk about they do not have time to negotiate or don't want to ruin the mood. I am sure she comes across guys like that, so why not shoot for the moon.

Big shoutouts to the guys for providing what to expect to pay and what not to pay in Nairobi unfortunately some of the information is misleading and while the other information is your mileage may vary. Anytime you want to how much is too much to pay for sex with a local native; well hell just ask the native man of that country. So apparently 1000 bob is the local price and Kenyan women often refer to guys who can only pay that is broke (trust me the used blank word a lot around black guys! Through out my encounter most women charged me that price around 60% of the time. Bad bitches want roughly 5000 bob from foreign men but some will settle for 3000. Women will try to lure you in with a 500 bob special when you get in that room after sex all hell is going to break loose 100% guaranteed!

Overnight or all day price with sex included repeatedly for local men 2000 bob. And I actually got that price service but for foreign men expect to pay 5000 bob plus. Now these are the prices for women in the low end areas of CBD. Speaking of CBD I don't recommend going on River Road at night looking for cheap sex that's kinda like a bait and lure tactics some of these women have pimps or boyfriends watching their backs and they'll try to organize a committee to get you to pay more. Prostitution is illegal in Kenya and Kenyan police don't fucking play I saw with my own two eyes they jump out on some guys and slam them too the ground.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2904818]Yes if there is one thing a newbie to NBO should know its this. Nearly all the girls will ask for money. During and after your trip. Ones that you have sex with and not. They may not even ask for much but once you're in their contacts brace yourself. Its will be endless. All newbies should learn to say no and keep those mpesas in your account. Even if it is just $5 they are asking for.

And yes one should know the kind of trip they want. If you wan to hit and run to the next it will not be the easiest thing to juggle many different women. Kenyans are always very late. For everything. So even trying to see two in one day it can be difficult. IMO Kenya is best if you want a GFE with two or three girls. Especially if you're there less than two weeks.[/QUOTE]And if they ask you for money *before* you meet, that's a big red flag, I'm guessing?

A week into being in Nairobi I tired using Tinder, Bumble and Badoo apparently Badoo and Bumble are both owned by Meta.

Let me start off with the escort website sites. After discussing with numerous cab drivers and local guys in several areas. With the main question being what is the best place to get good quality escorts apparently they told me the internet and try escort agencies they attend to be more professional about their jobs. Now I'm skipping a whole lot of events which prompted me to ask such questions.

Starting off with the escort agencies most of the women that were posted was not in business hence their numbers was out of order or they was bullshitting around about meeting up with me. Never in my life in the sake of money have I heard of a chick telling me she's available and I'm texting her for 7 hrs and all of sudden she's telling me that she's about come visit me for a reduced price of 7000 bob and she's going to give me rushed service due to the fact she's about to go to the club and see some wack underground artist perform. By the way her initial price was 10000 bob. I told her go fuck off and I wish I could say that in Kiswahili. Next I called up and Ethiopian escort who texted me and told me she was available and it took her 24 hours to give me her price! Ok and it was literally $100 usd she was asking for a video chat verified she was the girl with the same shape in the photos I told her I'll never pay such prices in the motherland and not even for Arab pussy! She then began to bargain and it was negotiated down to 5800 bob. I stopped responding to her because she didn't even have a car and she wanted me to cover her Uber fare and she was coming from Umoja and area I visited on my first night in Nairobi. I blocked her because she kept calling and texting and I was done with the online escort scene.

I moved on to online dating apps expensive I must say I never paid for an dating membership until I came to Africa (Kenya) first up Tinder I had to delete that shit ASAP and cancel my subscription. After sending my location I only saw white chicks on it in Nairobi but I was really looking for some hot chocolate. I gave up after 30 swipes.

Next Badoo and Bumble saw plenty of nice looking African women on it. And first it was slow for 2 days then on day 3 I was getting bombarded with women requesting me to send them dick pics! I never experienced that in my life until that day at first I thought it was men playing pranks but with a video chat it was Kenyan women and some of them were sitting next to their friends. Shit took a turn for the worst when I met up with this one Keyan lady who was 20 years old drove to my hotel picked me up pulled into a alley at first I thought I was about to get robbed she took and began to unzip my pants and pulled my shit out and start jacking it so she can see the true size! She looked crazy while doing that and this woman had super human strength I was trying to ease her from doing all of this and what got her to stop was some women with children walked through that alley and they saw what was about to go down. She apologized to me and said she haven't had some in a minute yeah right I got out her car and she demanded 4000 bob. I told her I'll give her 1500 I tossed it through her window and called it a day. After that crazy experience I told myself I'll just stick with the night club sex scene. I went back to NY hotel and deleted my accounts.

I completely agree, and that's one stereotype that associates with people of certain regionality of the world and unfortunately most gets extremely angry as if it completely fictional. I was in small water worlds strip club and this one lady gave me a lap dance her pussy smelt rotten! She tired to kiss me in my mouth I stopped it and she called to VIP which looked quite different I can't explain how it looked but the places I've been to in Umoja set up looked better than that! Well the point I'm trying to make is Kenyan men was fingering her and they didn't mind that type of order. I called some SW over when they smells I leave them be.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2901188]I can deal with a lot in the world of p4 p that we partake in, but I draw the line at smells. If a chick smells funny, be it hair, ass or pussy, I'm calling it a day.[/QUOTE]

I know this is a late post but most of the ones I called was out of service and the ones who did answer was no longer in the game or they wasn't trying to meet up at a reasonable time. To be honest I'll keep my guard up dealing with folks who offer this form of service. The women can turn violent and combative over money just like anywhere else in the world. And also some chicks told me some girls set white men up to get robbed because it's a stigma associated with them and money. And this city has a very high crime rate just like any other major city in the world!

[QUOTE=Perfecto101;2896528]Hello friends I'm visiting Nairobi for short time like a week or so and I google escorts in Nairobi and I had couple of websites come up my question is how safe and accurate these websites are having an escort from the sites to come to your incall or you go their incalls.

Sorry if this has been asked before.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;2905816]Big shoutouts to the guys for providing what to expect to pay and what not to pay in Nairobi unfortunately some of the information is misleading and while the other information is your mileage may vary. Anytime you want to how much is too much to pay for sex with a local native; well hell just ask the native man of that country. So apparently 1000 bob is the local price and Kenyan women often refer to guys who can only pay that is broke (trust me the used blank word a lot around black guys! Through out my encounter most women charged me that price around 60% of the time. Bad bitches want roughly 5000 bob from foreign men but some will settle for 3000. Women will try to lure you in with a 500 bob special when you get in that room after sex all hell is going to break loose 100% guaranteed!

Overnight or all day price with sex included repeatedly for local men 2000 bob. And I actually got that price service but for foreign men expect to pay 5000 bob plus. Now these are the prices for women in the low end areas of CBD. Speaking of CBD I don't recommend going on River Road at night looking for cheap sex that's kinda like a bait and lure tactics some of these women have pimps or boyfriends watching their backs and they'll try to organize a committee to get you to pay more. Prostitution is illegal in Kenya and Kenyan police don't fucking play I saw with my own two eyes they jump out on some guys and slam them too the ground.[/QUOTE]Prostitution is NOT illegal in Kenya. If you don't know what you're doing. Go back to CONUS. Judging by your posts that's better for before you get yourself killed. Escort agencies? Nobody use such a shit in Africa. There's no need.

Mwalimu.

[QUOTE=MwenByen;2905816]Big shoutouts to the guys for providing what to expect to pay and what not to pay in Nairobi unfortunately some of the information is misleading and while the other information is your mileage may vary. Anytime you want to how much is too much to pay for sex with a local native; well hell just ask the native man of that country. So apparently 1000 bob is the local price and Kenyan women often refer to guys who can only pay that is broke (trust me the used blank word a lot around black guys! Through out my encounter most women charged me that price around 60% of the time. Bad bitches want roughly 5000 bob from foreign men but some will settle for 3000. Women will try to lure you in with a 500 bob special when you get in that room after sex all hell is going to break loose 100% guaranteed!

Overnight or all day price with sex included repeatedly for local men 2000 bob. And I actually got that price service but for foreign men expect to pay 5000 bob plus. Now these are the prices for women in the low end areas of CBD. Speaking of CBD I don't recommend going on River Road at night looking for cheap sex that's kinda like a bait and lure tactics some of these women have pimps or boyfriends watching their backs and they'll try to organize a committee to get you to pay more. Prostitution is illegal in Kenya and Kenyan police don't fucking play I saw with my own two eyes they jump out on some guys and slam them too the ground.[/QUOTE]Damn, 2,000 kes for a night! I am sure the foreign guy who posted that he paid 150 dollars for two girls feels stupid now.

Happy that the Kenyan man are not willing to pay overpriced for a girl. You need to understand this too, Kenyan girls love sex, especially with foreign, so if she says 10,000, it's just the opening price, she will get down even to 3000-4000 kes for a night, trust me.

In 22 yrs the most I have ever paid is 5 k and that was a one off in Nairobi.

I always give 3 k regardless even if we agree on 2 k.

$150, madness.

[QUOTE=Kavkaz48;2905922]And if they ask you for money *before* you meet, that's a big red flag, I'm guessing?[/QUOTE]In Kenya not necessarily. They are so used to asking its like breathing for them. In any other country I've been to ID say yes LOL.

The thing is with so many available women in Kenya I just move on to the next if they ask for money up front. And in all hoesty if you tell the one you are meeting no its not like she will throw you away. Oncce Mr Mzungu is in her contacts he is there forever.

[QUOTE=Kavkaz48;2905922]And if they ask you for money *before* you meet, that's a big red flag, I'm guessing?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=KingAmir;2906177]Damn, 2,000 kes for a night! I am sure the foreign guy who posted that he paid 150 dollars for two girls feels stupid now.

Happy that the Kenyan man are not willing to pay overpriced for a girl. You need to understand this too, Kenyan girls love sex, especially with foreign, so if she says 10,000, it's just the opening price, she will get down even to 3000-4000 kes for a night, trust me.[/QUOTE]True. Even some foreigners know they deal. Last time I was in bistro I was eying two girls. A guy walked up to the one I really like and was dancing with her for about an hour so I talked to the friend.

Eventually I looked over and the dude was gone. I asked the friend is he coming back she was like nope. She then gave me a 10 k pitch. I laughed and went home myself.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2906220]... She then gave me a 10 k pitch. I laughed and went home myself.[/QUOTE]10 k is the line where I think laughing and leaving or negotiating. Depends at some points like attitude, same fun level, etc. Was last year at Brew Bistro talking to two Ladies, we had some funny discussions. They offer me to go with them for each 15 k! At this point there were no room for discussion cause even when you bring them down to 4 or 5 k I think the "service" will lost. So I decided to say gentle goodbye to them.

To pay upfront is a red flag for me and it was not the first time to send them away even when she was at my place. Had such nonsense behavior from some nigerian Ladies in Dubai but also for only one time in Kampala while we were sitting in a taxi to my place. I immediately stopped the taxi and wished her a good night. Knowing that this means going home alone but I can't accept such stupidity.

To be honest I only been to 4 and for some odd reason they are extremely well hidden. On my first night in Nairobi I went to Umoja I walked up to a taxi cab driver and I asked him for a hole in the wall area were women dance and have sex with he told me about two locations in some apartments in Umoja. He told me he'll translate for me and he'll wait for me until I'm done for 3000 bob which seemed kinda reasonable. First place the guy took me to was in a extremely rundown apartment building with some Shiesty looking guys posted out front. They were frantically speaking to me in Kiswahili and upon coming inside it was a bunch dark skin African women with very nice looking shape dancing but they didn't look that clean. Lots of people drinking and smoking brought my taxi driver something to drink. And I called a chick over she wasn't from Kenya but from Tanzania. My taxi cab driver translated for me and she escorted me to a room I had to pay 200 bob for a bed that appeared to have bed bugs on it. Ok I offered to pay her 500 bob for some pictures and another 500 bob for a video of her twerking she agreed. After I was done I got the hell out of there and proceeded to head to the next shake joint. And by the way I was getting stares from the locals like hell but it wasn't nothing to make me feel uncomfortable. The next place I went to in Umoja was ran by some Nigerians and it was in a run down building I think it place was half locals and half west Africans inside. 15 women inside of that looked like they were of East African descent it wasn't much of a strip club but just Lingerie models serving drinks and foods with casual conversations going on I'm pretty sure sex could've been exchanged there but after that last visit I wasn't going to find out about this one neither. After 20 minutes inside and the women protecting men passed out due alcohol toxicity I left and asked my taxi driver to drop me off at Small Water Worlds strip club. He didn't know the address therefore I had to give it to him by via google. When I got there I arrived at a building that had no name. But there was a bouncer outside wearing regular street clothes. I asked him about the place and he told me it was this location. I walked inside and I had to go up roughly 7 flights of stairs to reach the place. Once inside I had to pay a 200 bob entry fee and I was greeted by the staff. They were playing mostly reggae music while the other strip joints in Umoja was playing gangster rap music. The locals were mostly valued by the women I noticed a trend the foreigners might have money but the women are mostly interested in the local men sometimes they'll even stop dancing for you even after getting paid 3000 bob after only 3 or 4 songs. It was 6 women dancing and they all stayed in Umoja. And some of these chicks look like rough looking hood girls. I witnessed the bouncer kick out 3 African men for harassing the dancers. Some of the girls in that strip club stink also. Just to be honest with you and I worked out a deal to have a threesome inside the VIP room for 5000 bob the VIP price was 300 bob. To be honest it was actually 5000 bob gone down the drain in a bizarre twist of fate. Word must of got out that it was about to happen and I noticed that more strippers with some clients came into watch as if it was live porn. Dudes was touching on the women while they was giving me a bbj it got to the point I had to leave. I wasn't mad but the VIP was a big open area and anyone can see what you're doing. And as I was about to leave I told the staff I was going to come back but not drunk because your wallet might come up missing in that place. Walking down river Road it was flooded with prostitutes who mainly claimed to stay in Umoja some of them were very nice and submissive women. While a lot of them were very aggressive, loud and out right violent! Unfortunately I had to walk pass the ghetto ones to get to Liddos I paid this one woman 500 bob to show me the direction she stopped at an incredibly dark street and this is CBD after midnight by the way and it had people moving in the shadows I proceeded and I asked this one old Kenyan man for the location and he showed me I had doubts until the bouncer showed me his uniform nice looking lady upstairs at the desk. And I walked inside a place that had African women of all shapes and sizes. That were mostly attractive brought the ladies some drinks kinda expensive you have purchase 2 bottles of anything there. Purchased the begging waiters there a drink and fast forwarding I ended upstairs with the hostess in the VIP room. There vip room was 4500 bob it accepts cards or Mpesa and she wanted roughly 3500 bob but worked it down to 3000. She showered and got undressed and she wanted me to film the encounter can't say no to that. We laid in the bed for another 1 hour and I left because it was getting late like 3 in the morning I had no idea what was lurking out in CBD at night. I walked around the corner and caught a moto taxi to my hotel and I visited those places like twice more during my stay in Kenya.

[QUOTE=MwenByen;2906911]To be honest I only been to 4 and for some odd reason they are extremely well hidden. On my first night in Nairobi I went to Umoja I walked up to a taxi cab driver and I asked him for a hole in the wall area were women dance and have sex with he told me about two locations in some apartments in Umoja. He told me he'll translate for me and he'll wait for me until I'm done for 3000 bob which seemed kinda reasonable. First place the guy took me to was in a extremely rundown apartment building with some Shiesty looking guys posted out front. They were frantically speaking to me in Kiswahili and upon coming inside it was a bunch dark skin African women with very nice looking shape dancing but they didn't look that clean. Lots of people drinking and smoking brought my taxi driver something to drink. And I called a chick over she wasn't from Kenya but from Tanzania. My taxi cab driver translated for me and she escorted me to a room I had to pay 200 bob for a bed that appeared to have bed bugs on it. Ok I offered to pay her 500 bob for some pictures and another 500 bob for a video of her twerking she agreed. After I was done I got the hell out of there and proceeded to head to the next shake joint. And by the way I was getting stares from the locals like hell but it wasn't nothing to make me feel uncomfortable. The next place I went to in Umoja was ran by some Nigerians and it was in a run down building I think it place was half locals and half west Africans inside. 15 women inside of that looked like they were of East African descent it wasn't much of a strip club but just Lingerie models serving drinks and foods with casual conversations going on I'm pretty sure sex could've been exchanged there but after that last visit I wasn't going to find out about this one neither. After 20 minutes inside and the women protecting men passed out due alcohol toxicity I left and asked my taxi driver to drop me off at Small Water Worlds strip club. He didn't know the address therefore I had to give it to him by via google. When I got there I arrived at a building that had no name. But there was a bouncer outside wearing regular street clothes. I asked him about the place and he told me it was this location. I walked inside and I had to go up roughly 7 flights of stairs to reach the place. Once inside I had to pay a 200 bob entry fee and I was greeted by the staff. They were playing mostly reggae music while the other strip joints in Umoja was playing gangster rap music. The locals were mostly valued by the women I noticed a trend the foreigners might have money but the women are mostly interested in the local men sometimes they'll even stop dancing for you even after getting paid 3000 bob after only 3 or 4 songs. It was 6 women dancing and they all stayed in Umoja. And some of these chicks look like rough looking hood girls. I witnessed the bouncer kick out 3 African men for harassing the dancers. Some of the girls in that strip club stink also. Just to be honest with you and I worked out a deal to have a threesome inside the VIP room for 5000 bob the VIP price was 300 bob.[/QUOTE]I thought I was tough enough for this mission until you mentioned stinky and bedbugs, LOL.

While in Nairobi I've been on River Road and it's connecting streets in the night time. I for one can say this they have some very shady characters to come from Umoja at least that's what they claim to set up shop and get their money from. The Kenyan women on River Road can be extremely aggressive and can potentially become violent during a discussion over the price of service. And by the way these women normally post up by Durma street and they normally run in packs and unfortunately I became a victim to them on my last day in Nairobi. While the Tanzania women who work that strip can become 2 times more aggressive than the Kenyan women LOL these girls will pretend like shit is cool until after sex is over with and then ask for money if you nice enough to do it they demand more in a threatening manner. And to be honest these girls run in packs also they claim for there safety due to the fact it's been recent attacks on women and customers refusing to pay. Coming to find out after fucking one of them she let her friend in the room and she's a lock on the door and both of them have knives demanding I pay 2000 bob more or else. I wasn't intimidated at all I easily disarmed one of them and asked the other to open unlocked the door and they began following me yelling and screaming he does not pay. By the way these tramps can be found by Gikomba streets and it's back areas with a landmark being a coach bus station area. You can tell some of these girls are in gangs and they get off by getting shit started with men who they think won't put they're foot in there ass! I ran into some bad apples over there on that strip but overall I met some cool ones in Kenya most women are the pimps on the streets and it was clearly explained to me and it's not necessarily that much of a profitable business mainly due to the high cost of living and low wages of male clients. Now these mamas as they are sometimes referred to can get a man to do something too you and that's only when he's around. There's plenty of fun to be had dealing with these girls there's always different girls out at night sometimes you see the same faces out but majority it's a new face out every night from what I've been seeing some were highly attractive looking ghetto girls while some look like below average looking girls to terrible looking drug addicts! When some of these girls get like 3000 bob they get the fuck on off that part of town mainly because of robbers or other women who try to strong are them for money. The cheapest quote I got was 350 bob and that's normally a scammer who's going to try to get more money out of you after the service is over with. Highest price I got quoted was 5000 bob. The highest I paid was 3000 bob with a tip only because some content was created most of the women charged me the local price 1000 bob and some offered to sleepover with unlimited sex for 5000 bob. Could they be trusted yes but I wasn't interested in that. Hotels charge on the average 500 bob for a one hour visit. The cheapest price I got was only 200 bob and that was because I was a regular there. Now some of those hotels have bed bugs and they haven't ate for days and I found that out the hard way when they got me. Overall I'll say proceed with extreme caution in that area here is the reason why some of those women in that area will say stupid shit to you when you pass them by this one lady who appears to be highly aggressive who went by the name of Pinkie started cussing me out so I started flirting with her mistake number one I should've left her alone and she began demanding I buy her some weed, coc, and perks and some local liquor that cost over 1000 bob in total that would've been 4500 bob on top of her 3000 bob service charge. I declined all of the above and she became enraged. Some Kenyan man asked her was everything ok and what's my problem mistake # 2 I slung him to the ground. I kept coming to that area (mistake #3) after getting into it with 3 different Tanzanian women and refusing to pay Pinky came to realize that I'm not afraid of the streets of Nairobi and word got back to me that she was going have me dealt with. I stopped visiting River Road area at night and on my last day I went to that area to see a slew of African women who had brick house thick bodies of goddesses and lord behold I walked into the hotel hallway door she was there and the women began talking to me about the price demanding 5000 bob each and she was speaking to them in some language and they began pulling on me and she joined in it to. I realized I was about to get robbed and what ended up happening was that another girl who was slim had went in my pockets stole 11000 bob and a cheap cellphone that cost around 8000 bob and ran fast while pinky ran up the stairs the other girls was try to block me from entering further it was like 7 of them total. The shit happened so fast I kinda got thrown off in the process I almost went into primal rage they got lucky that day because my flight was due in hours and it take hours to clear Kenya security screening. A woman who witnessed it eventually told me later on over a phone call that those women I got into with (pinky and Taz gals) was mamas (pimps).

Nairobi has a ridiculous amount of crime going on and if one was to sit in there hotel room and tune on the tv. You'll see it on the evening news even though the people are considered friendly doesn't necessarily makes sense to show off to a stranger that you potentially has wealth. There's a whole lot I want to say but I'm going to opted out from doing so. A dating is good for a meet and greet I'm pretty sure you'll find some out there that's willing to do it but when I used Tinder it was mostly Caucasian and Indian women on there. There's some misleading information on this site I read on here that made cashiers, hotel receptionists even working class women such as doctors and lawyers seem like sluts who's desperately willing to fuck guys from Europe or European background and that's not true. The media hides the fact that some guys are gullible and they get robbed quite often in Nairobi and they do have women to set you up. I picked on this when I came to the more urban areas there's a strong demand from the local women for gangster men in the Kenyan culture. And you're hearing this from a guy that's part black / African. Like I said proceed with caution when showing you got money 2 Rivers Mall is a luxury mall in Nairobi.

[QUOTE=CAExpert;2895415]Hi everyone,

I am thinking of staying for a week at the Holiday Inn attached to the Two Rivers Mall. I am a late forties Canadian Caucasian that is in good shape and look young for my age. What would be my success of talking to random women at the mall between the ages of 25 too 45 and progressing to drinks / dinner and fun back at my hotel? What about tinder, do you think girls would be willing to come to Twoo Rivers Mall to meet me? Or is it better to stay somewhere else? Thanks so much for your help.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;2907602] I stopped visiting River Road area at night and on my last day I went to that area to see a slew of African women who had brick house thick bodies of goddesses and lord behold I walked into the hotel hallway door she was there and the women began talking to me about the price demanding 5000 bob each and she was speaking to them in some language and they began pulling on me and she joined in it to. I realized I was about to get robbed and what ended up happening was that another girl who was slim had went in my pockets stole 11000 bob and a cheap cellphone that cost around 8000 bob and ran fast while pinky ran up the stairs the other girls was try to block me from entering further it was like 7 of them total. The shit happened so fast I kinda got thrown off in the process I almost went into primal rage they got lucky that day because my flight was due in hours and it take hours to clear Kenya security screening. A woman who witnessed it eventually told me later on over a phone call that those women I got into with (pinky and Taz gals) was mamas (pimps).[/QUOTE]I don't have time to read all your other reports to make sure you are genuine but If your story is truth somehow you are playing with your life man!! Its silly to go this kind of places if you don't have any clue what are you doing and the prices you been quoted is rip off. IF you look for cheap sex and a bit more safety environment next time better go Sabina joy offer girl 1000 bob for short time +300 pay for room and don't have all this kind of problems.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2907720]I don't have time to read all your other reports to make sure you are genuine but If your story is truth somehow you are playing with your life man!! Its silly to go this kind of places if you don't have any clue what are you doing and the prices you been quoted is rip off. IF you look for cheap sex and a bit more safety environment next time better go Sabina joy offer girl 1000 bob for short time +300 pay for room and don't have all this kind of problems.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. We all like the hunting but if someone is threatened or even hurt, the fun stops!! I'm not flying for hours to have some risky holidays.

Would also suggest Sabina or this place next to eureka hotel. OK, it's not the shaking booty place like Liddos but saver than trying your luck in Umoja. But keep an eye at your belongings doesn't matter where you are. I know what I'm talking about. Would also say the price was too high, for this money you get easy a threesome for the night.

Tinder works in my opinion but you have to divide them from the ones who want to get married immediately. Talking to ladies on the street and hoping they are happy to go for fun with you is more likely a good night story. Will not working until you are not looking like a 10 on a male scale.

File that report under. The manual of what not to do in Nairobi.

High risk of robbery, arrest, set up arrest, stabbed, shot, beaten.

Each to their own but when you can use tinder etc or just approach random women it is not the best way to monger for the majority of visitors.

I was in Nairobi for almost 3. 5 weeks and I've been inside of that place at least 30 times. I noticed that this isn't a locals favorite type establishment as in the women tend to sit around only Kenyan men in hopes to get money from them. It's located across the street from Liddos staff is hella cool, the lounge area has a terrible stench of urine. It really don't bother me much. The hookers beg like hell but after buying too many gals in Sabrina's a beer I learned my lesson I preferred to drink my own liquor there. Cheapest quote I got for sex was 300 bob and you know that's the same price as the room. I already know when you go upstairs which I never been the price is going to increase to over 1500 bob. Some women use all types of tactics to get me to go upstairs like let's sit down and talk and drink. She has her own room here or she's a good twerker. Or she's a certified lesbian none of that worked for me the women are mostly older early 30's with middle builds there's young slim tenders that shows up. Mostly in the daytime and they tend to be less assertive than the older ones. Kenyan men mainly comes here to drink and party there is security upstairs and downstairs. I can tell it's very slow for sexual services but in a country where $400 is good money charging one customer 4000 bob can make a big difference in a loss of sales. I might give these girls a shot on my next visit there the women are very assertive in getting you in the room with so called threesomes and lesbian sex which I know is a lie. I had a buddy of mines from Uganda to proposition them in that and they told him no! I've been scammed many times by River Road streetwalkers who claimed they'll let me take pictures or videos of them but in reality just want sex when I get into the room and I noticed some River Road SW's post up in there and some of the women would say I like to be on video or photos allowed that let me know they be talking to each other.

I had to the opportunity to visit this establishment at least 20 times while I was in Nairobi. This place seems to be more of a regulars bar in terms women tend to give top priority to there regulars even when they have no money to spend on them. I heard to many stories from Kenyan women trash talking local men about how they are so broke, cheap and don't like to take care of their women. And they don't like them at all I find that as nothing more than a bunch mere hogwash! They flock to these broke jokers like flies on shit and they skip over any foreigners that are in that establishment. The question is did I enjoy myself there yes I had. Other than River Road this is the only place I could recommend that had Kenyan women that was slim and it looked appealing on them overall most of the women had medium size body frames with asses to match. Made some connections with several Kenyan women with outside the club activity. The cheapest price quote I gotten was 1500 shillings with the highest price quote I gotten was 6000 bob. And it was some chick from the West of Kenya had extremely strong Sundanese features! I had a buddy of mines to propositioned her and she gave him a 1500 bob price quote I confronted her about it she just walked away from me. Rooms are 300 bob and they have a vip area for 1500 bob. I had no idea the ladies like would be posted around the corner of the bathroom stalls. They wave and try to convince you to go with them they only do that to foreigners. After a hella of a experience in Eastleigh I knew that was a tactic to over charge a tourist for sex. I had sex with 10 different women inside that establishment and let me say this. This lounge has a drink requirement I paid drinks for numerous ladies sometimes even for Kenyan women sitting in a group and the severs was not satisfied until I had something in my system. A manager had to tell them to don't bother me if I'm paying for drinks for the women there. I noticed if you buy Kenyan women drinks or some food there it doesn't knock off the price of sex with the girl. Once inside the room they still jacked up the price on me they kept saying I got money. I was like ok never again the average price given to me behind closed doors came up to 2500 bob. Two things there are different girls there every day I learned some get on the internet and find dates. And finally some women are extremely territorial about their clients this one lady chopped me in my throat after she saw me leave out the room with another woman. Ok, overall pleasant experience nice selection of women there best ones are there in the Afternoon time.

So when I was in Sabrina's Pub and Liddos I managed to exchange numbers with some women who worked there and we was in communication via WhatsApp. After my departure from Kenya I had these women still texting me and calling me every other day and some of them will even ask me to Mpesa them some money. Never sent them not one damn dime and just my me being honest they are asking me to send them some big money which is equivalent to $50. I had laughed at this one stipper at Liddos named Ivy for asking me for that type of money I thought that shit was ridiculous. And it's not only her it's like 7 more other girls I was getting too many messages coming to my phone with chicks asking me for money it got to the point I had log out my what's app account. Some of the girls we're starting to get sophisticated with their tactics. They were trying to convince me that we are in a relationship our sexual encounters was not transactional and next time we meet it's going to be us making love. This one chick named Constance's from Sabrina's pub she tells me everyday that she wants to have my baby and she can't wait to see me. Now keep in mind she wants me to take her on a trip to Zanzibar and Mombasa. I really can't see myself spending a couple hundred dollars on a African hooker and not only that her romance game sounds wack! At least in Asian countries they give you a stronger sense of we are really in love and they try to prove themselves heavily in order to get in your pockets. I met this one Rwandan chick in CBD she was a call girl only seen her once and she keeps talking about how she miss me and she wouldn't mind marrying me I'm the type of man she's being looking for. And one day she asked me when will I be ready to take her to Dani Beach for her birthday, never heard of the place until I used google. Unfortunately most of the women stoop messaging me when I told them that I'm out of work and I'm going through a crisis. It seems like love is very transactional in Kenya now and days. From my perspective I rather just pay to play than actually have a girlfriend while I have my stay in Kenya.

Most women who work online knows that foreigners in particular European men will pay such ridiculous prices in Africa. That's why you see the atypical European standard of beauty body African women hanging around in there areas. I never posted this story but when Horn of African women in particular Somali women gets a visit from western or middle Eastern men the price tends to go over $100 for full service and it's $15 for locals. They become extremely aggressive when you try to leave demanding half the payment for wasting their time. Prostitution is not very profitable in Africa unless a tourist from a wealthy country shows up and that's when the women can really eat. I agree that is messing the game up however I also learned that if the woman posts $200 as her price and she's getting business then the agency wants a $50 cut. I met a Kenyan woman who was making good money and staying in a very nice condo in Westlands full furnished with AC! At first I thought she was getting mad business from the escort agency nah she has plenty of guys doing stupid shit like western Union her money so she can live her luxurious lifestyle. I find that out when she asked me to go half on her with a iPhone 12 Pro Max she was requesting 54000 bob! And that's when she broke it down to me how some of these girls survive they keep the money coming in mainly due to Mzungus who got nothing better to do than send super duper stupid money to snobby Kenyan women!

[QUOTE=SeanBenz;2864569]200 usd, and she didn't do overnight!! To each their own butttt goddamn folks like you be messing the market up!![/QUOTE]

I'm going to say this right, I think that's kinda like a generalization but I can say this anytime you're meeting up with a woman for pay for play (prostitution) majority of the times she's going to be pathologically lying about something and that's regardless of us she's Kenyan, Colombian or Russian it's in a prostitute nature to lie about shit. And a long time ago my mom told me there's no such thing as a honest ho! I was new to the game living in the Philippines in the early 2000's when I found myself in a romance scam when I left Manila and moved to Thailand and I found myself sending $3000 to my Filipino girlfriend and I never heard from her again. And after moving to Thailand I caught myself spending uncontrollably on my Thai mistresses and I wised up after making an I'm broke please help me phone call to my parents who lived at a time in a very poor country. I was a very young man then, I choose the wrong women who was really good liars but. Anyway going back to Kenya the information Kenyan people provided me was golden if you run into a woman who doesn't have her ID and I mean never has it that might be someone you don't want to deal with. I was told it's best to deal with Kenyan women who works for escort agencies and most Kenyan men prefer that or strip chat. I was told due to an very high cost of living and rampant drug problem and a society that's still generally superstitious as a whole this is a very dangerous country and your life can be in danger at all times. And let the truth be told that was the truth, I was told be cautious when doing business with working girls in Eastliegh and I'll be damn they were right. I asked the women on the street when is the best time of the day to catch Chinese and other races of men on River Road looking for sex. They told me the exact time frame and I saw them there and there's a whole lot I can go on to discuss about this but I'm not going to do it. I was warned to never have a drink over a Kenyan lady house they'll put something in there to make you go to sleep, or make your body weak and a group of Kenyan men will come through the door and mug you. Most of these girls don't know that I have many international years in this game and I'm one step ahead of them. Overall the conversations the locals had with me was generally truthful including the hookers. Most of the lies I got on an average from them was they'll say oh I'll let you shoot video or take photo of me only to get you to pay for sex with them. And one side note I do know is that this is a society we're that if you stand your ground like a man it gives you hella respect.

Strip bar located off of Muhoho Road in the Nairobi West area. The entry stairway is beside the 24/7 "frys & chicken" restaurant located out front. The very first thing you'll encounter once inside is a pole located smack dab in the middle of the small space. There are no bad seats here so pick a spot and get ready for some action. There is a pathway next to the bar leading back to where the magic happens. The girls all take turns on the pole which makes it super easy to make your choice. Some girls will get naked while others won't.

The girl I chose was seated at the back when I walked in and her smile and pleasant demeanor sealed the deal. After a few cold Heineken's at 300 each she joined me and offered to grind her crotch on me at the back VIP area for 300 a song. This is just a room in the back with very uncomfortable couches backed up agains the wall. Some of the non-dancing girls will also be back here chilling or on their phones and they will also offer to dance once your girl leaves for her mandatory pole dance session. She unlatched her onesie, propped one leg on the couch, put her crotch on me and ground away. It's 3100 to fuck (2000 to her 1100 to the house) in one of the rooms. Paid and moved my beer's into the tiny dimly lit room with a massage table wedged on one side.

Hang my shit up on the chair, rolled the house rubber onto my member and mounted her doggy. I'd drank quite a few beers and the heavy condom wasn't helping things. I started sweating and so did she. After 15 minutes, she hopped off to get water and napkins to wipe my face. The fucking resumed! After a few more minutes she pulled away and sat on the bed drinking while staring at my still erect alcohol-desensitized member. I don't think she expected / wanted to be fucked this long.

Off came the rubber and she jerked me off to completion while licking my nipples. Decent location with plenty of girls of every shape and size available. Spotted a Somali chap stroll in with his Khat / Miraa grab a chick and head off to the back to get work done. They cater to everybody.

This is a lower working class neighborhood located south of the JKIA airport. The women here cater to the locals and the rate for a single "shot" is 200 bob! Quality varies but these chicks are some of the same ones unsuspecting mongers are wining and dining in Nairobi's hottest nightspots. Where did you think SOME of the birds posting on IG / Tinder / Badoo come from? Don't visit without a local guide otherwise you risk becoming the victim of an opportunistic crime. We're all adults engaged in an activity that is frowned upon by society but managing your risk is your personal responsibility! It don't take much to get roofied here AND in other parts of Nairobi!

Club 110 is a strip bar located among a row of businesses facing Mombasa Rd. Girls dance on certain days and if you like what you see, rooms are upstairs. The bartender and DJ operate behind lockable metal cages but you already knew that this wasn't your run of the mill bar in Westlands didn't you? If you're risk averse, visit the restaurant next door and insist on getting seated at the upstairs balcony. After your meal, wash your hands and proceed to smash the chicks renting those rooms behind the bar. Night time mongers read on.

After a few cold beers (300 each), exit the club and hang a right and head to the alleys in the back. You'll eventually start running into skimpily dressed women roaming around looking for clients. Occasionally, they'll post up in groups around doorways and in other instances lay in beds in rooms with the door ajar legs wide open! Check ID, pay 200 bob, fuck and leave! My partner and I collected two Ugandan spinners out of Club 110 and fucked them at the Continental inn. We pre-negotiated with security to ensure that if 4 people went into the rooms, it was 4 leaving afterwards. You can't afford to be sloppy here!

Another infamous strip club located in the sketchiest parts of downtown Nairobi. There's no signage outside and unless you've been there, you'll never find it. A hidden security guy watching the street from behind a padlocked gate (with metal surrounds) is your first and only clue! To add to the sketchiness, the shared taxi I called up afterwards drove up and left. Entry way is in the pic!

The space itself is nothing to write home about. Another dimly lit spot with porn playing on flat screens, stripper poles, an idiot DJ taking over every record and couches wedged into any available space. Continuing with the hustle, you must prepay for a minimum of two drinks every time you order. I sat on an empty spot by the wall and started perusing the talent sliding up and down the poles. You'll get approached as soon as you're settled in. It won't take long.

On principle, I reject the first few girls that approach regardless of look. It's just my way of weeding out the hustlers and it's always worked for me. Around midnight, a "show" with a dildo and soapy water started. I hadn't seen this chick at first and on closer inspection realized she had very nice legs and a natural bubble on her. Bought her a drink after her show and moved her upstairs into one of the rooms for adult playtime. I don't know how this happened but the sight of the soapy water bouncing off of her skin in the shower drove me to mount and then blow the mother of all loads in what felt like seconds. These are the kind of loads that take a minute to recover from and I wasn't going to recharge before it was time to exit the rooms.

It was still too early to call it a night so I inquired if she could leave and she stated I had to pay 10 K to get her out. Paid the fee and took her straight to another night spot and later spent parts of the very next day at my place with her playing with my dick. An issue with these spots is you'll eventually get claimed by a chick and she'll become a problem when you next show up looking to fuck another broad. Aim to randomly show up and leave immediately afterwards. Encountered this issue at 207 too and that report is incoming. I knocked off three chicks over consecutive days before I had to quit!

At jargonizations. Proper reporting. I wish all posters were as clear and concise as you. Keep them coming. You do good for 10 posts versus some clueless posters who try to get themselves killed. If you don't know what you're doing. Africa will eat you alive.

Mwalimu.

Planning first trip to Nairobi, in which area to rent appartment with AirBnB?

Having been in Mombasa last year, tinder was great success for me.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2912037]Planning first trip to Nairobi, in which area to rent appartment with AirBnB?

Having been in Mombasa last year, tinder was great success for me.[/QUOTE]A cheap one I use in the CBD, (on Kirinyaga road in the Eagle Towers building) only 3 k a night. Clean, basic, bit of noise though as expected in Town in a block, but secure and has good wifi and netflix. Okay to come and go during the day but use bolt / uber at night. You can use a boda boda for 50-100 bob to do the 30 sec run into the centre of CBD instead of walking up a little bank and though the traffic.

Other than that I have used a few in Westlands and a couple off Ngong Road. You can't really go wrong as bolt is so cheap to get out and about.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2912037]Planning first trip to Nairobi, in which area to rent appartment with AirBnB?

Having been in Mombasa last year, tinder was great success for me.[/QUOTE]I have an apartment in several locations around Kenya including Nairobi. It depends on how long you want the apartment. I use Booking for a temporariy place and then hunt using Google maps. Because Nairobi is so large, I use a real estate agent to help me. I haven't used Airbnb since 2019.

Most foreigners stay to the north and west side of Nairobi but you will pay more.

I completely agree some extremely skinny chick was claiming me how I fuck up. I paid her 3500 bob for a lap dance and she stopped dancing after 2 songs to chop it up with me. It was hard for me to ditch her and that's when I started hitting the hostess.

[QUOTE=Jargonizations;2909105]Another infamous strip club located in the sketchiest parts of downtown Nairobi. There's no signage outside and unless you've been there, you'll never find it. A hidden security guy watching the street from behind a padlocked gate (with metal surrounds) is your first and only clue! To add to the sketchiness, the shared taxi I called up afterwards drove up and left. Entry way is in the pic!

The space itself is nothing to write home about. Another dimly lit spot with porn playing on flat screens, stripper poles, an idiot DJ taking over every record and couches wedged into any available space. Continuing with the hustle, you must prepay for a minimum of two drinks every time you order. I sat on an empty spot by the wall and started perusing the talent sliding up and down the poles. You'll get approached as soon as you're settled in. It won't take long.

On principle, I reject the first few girls that approach regardless of look. It's just my way of weeding out the hustlers and it's always worked for me. Around midnight, a "show" with a dildo and soapy water started. I hadn't seen this chick at first and on closer inspection realized she had very nice legs and a natural bubble on her. Bought her a drink after her show and moved her upstairs into one of the rooms for adult playtime. I don't know how this happened but the sight of the soapy water bouncing off of her skin in the shower drove me to mount and then blow the mother of all loads in what felt like seconds. These are the kind of loads that take a minute to recover from and I wasn't going to recharge before it was time to exit the rooms.

It was still too early to call it a night so I inquired if she could leave and she stated I had to pay 10 K to get her out. Paid the fee and took her straight to another night spot and later spent parts of the very next day at my place with her playing with my dick. An issue with these spots is you'll eventually get claimed by a chick and she'll become a problem when you next show up looking to fuck another broad. Aim to randomly show up and leave immediately afterwards. Encountered this issue at 207 too and that report is incoming. I knocked off three chicks over consecutive days before I had to quit![/QUOTE]

There's a swinger spot near the airport that is extremely LGBTQ friendly in Nairobi I went inside by accident and damn near wish I never did. Saw a bunch of Mzungus having unprotected sex with the gay locals. And only a madman will have unprotected sex in Kenya! It's an area in Westlands that has much better quality women who work the streets. The minimum price was 3000 bob, I can't remember the street name a taxi cab driver showed me the place it was a pretty cool area. I noticed some daytime River Road girls was out there on night.

[QUOTE=Jargonizations;2909045]This is a lower working class neighborhood located south of the JKIA airport. The women here cater to the locals and the rate for a single "shot" is 200 bob! Quality varies but these chicks are some of the same ones unsuspecting mongers are wining and dining in Nairobi's hottest nightspots. Where did you think SOME of the birds posting on IG / Tinder / Badoo come from? Don't visit without a local guide otherwise you risk becoming the victim of an opportunistic crime. We're all adults engaged in an activity that is frowned upon by society but managing your risk is your personal responsibility! It don't take much to get roofied here AND in other parts of Nairobi!

Club 110 is a strip bar located among a row of businesses facing Mombasa Rd. Girls dance on certain days and if you like what you see, rooms are upstairs. The bartender and DJ operate behind lockable metal cages but you already knew that this wasn't your run of the mill bar in Westlands didn't you? If you're risk averse, visit the restaurant next door and insist on getting seated at the upstairs balcony. After your meal, wash your hands and proceed to smash the chicks renting those rooms behind the bar. Night time mongers read on.

After a few cold beers (300 each), exit the club and hang a right and head to the alleys in the back. You'll eventually start running into skimpily dressed women roaming around looking for clients. Occasionally, they'll post up in groups around doorways and in other instances lay in beds in rooms with the door ajar legs wide open! Check ID, pay 200 bob, fuck and leave! My partner and I collected two Ugandan spinners out of Club 110 and fucked them at the Continental inn. We pre-negotiated with security to ensure that if 4 people went into the rooms, it was 4 leaving afterwards. You can't afford to be sloppy here![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2912037]Planning first trip to Nairobi, in which area to rent appartment with AirBnB?
[/QUOTE]If what you mean is where are the nicest areas to stay in, for those who want more middle- to upscale- accommodations, these areas you might like -- From my experiences I recommend Lavington, Kileleshwa and lastly Westlands. 'Westi' is last just because some (many) places can often be overpriced for what's offered. But it's still a decent option in terms of neighborhood.

For example see if this apartment building is yr cup o' tea: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2803035#post2803035[/URL].

If you're okay with a tiny bit further out, these areas are quieter but nicer greener, but still an easy drive to central parts of NBO: Kitisuru, Lower Kabete, Spring Valley. Loresho-- I'm still on the fence, I haven't stayed there yet, just driven thru, it seemed nice.

Search this particular forum for both 'Abb' and 'Airbnb', I've provides lots of advice on Abbs in Nairo.

[QUOTE=CAExpert;2895415]I am a late forties Canadian Caucasian that is in good shape and look young for my age. What would be my success of talking to random women at the mall between the ages of 25 too 45 and progressing to drinks / dinner and fun back at my hotel?[/QUOTE]I'll quote myself: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2528269#post2528269[/URL].

In some ways, this is a good thing, because they culturally care more about who you are, or more practically 'What you can provide', than basing solely on looks.

[QUOTE=Jargonizations;2909045]This is a lower working class neighborhood located south of the JKIA airport…. Club 110 is a strip bar located among a row of businesses facing Mombasa Rd. Girls dance on certain days and if you like what you see, rooms are upstairs. The bartender and DJ operate behind lockable metal cage…[/QUOTE]I rode my bike to this area. There's three bars side by side by side.

[QUOTE=MwenByen;2914373]There's a swinger spot near the airport that is extremely LGBTQ friendly in Nairobi I went inside by accident and damn near wish I never did. Saw a bunch of Mzungus having unprotected sex with the gay locals. And only a madman will have unprotected sex in Kenya! It's an area in Westlands that has much better quality women who work the streets. The minimum price was 3000 bob, I can't remember the street name a taxi cab driver showed me the place it was a pretty cool area. I noticed some daytime River Road girls was out there on night.[/QUOTE]Hi what I'd the name of the swinger spot.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2916166]I rode my bike to this area. There's three bars side by side by side.[/QUOTE]My time ran out before I could reduce and load the three clubs in Miolongo. Tops Klub, Klub Best and Klub 110.

I'm going to be in Nairobi for 2 weeks. It's my 4th-5th trip there. I've posted previously asking for more generic info. This time looking for specific reports on 207 lounge. I'll be there with my whole family, parents, kids, etc. I don't have a lot of free time to break away, but I'm staying somewhat near 207 and it seems like it might be the easiest place to slide away for an hour or so without anyone really noticing I'm gone. Any advice?? What time of day do they open? What time of day are women present? The earlier the better for me. Google maps says it's 24 hours. Is this true?

Hi Guys,

I'm planning right now for my first trip to Kenya. Just thought I would share my findings with you ahead of travelling.

Tinder 100% works. Just be really clear about what you're looking for. If you want a wife, a girlfriend, a hook-up, or guide, you can find them all. You will get literally 1000's of matches. It can get very time consuming very quickly to sort through it all so be prepared LOL. And expect that 80% of the short-term fun girls you match with will crack their screen phone or need data bundles from you the very next week after you start chatting. Do not send them money in advance. There are 1000's of girls. You don't need to send.

I've met a small handful of really nice girls, ranging between short-term girlfriends and hook-ups. Been talking for over 3 weeks now, had great video calls, long chats, all ready to do the nasty as soon as I arrive and not asked me for anything in advance. Happy to share their contact details with anyone. These girls are friends to me now though so just look after them with good benefit.

I also spent some time reaching out to various hotels and just calling up or whatsapp to ask about allowing guests. Everyone is very used to these questions. Don't be funny about asking. I found some hotels in Mombasa (can share the details) who will even arrange them for you too. Mostly the owners or hoteliers are simply worried about you getting robbed and would rather arrange girls for you they trust. For your safety. Seriously. I love Kenya already.

I'm booked into a very nice apartment in Nairobi with pool and rooftop restaurant, with no reception or walk of shame. Staff are very casual about me bringing people to the room and security check all ID but ask no questions. I can share the details.

My general experience, after speaking with a few masseuses, hotels, hook-up girls, escorts, etc is that anything goes. If you want something they will arrange it for you. I've discussed some crazy crazy ideas for parties, kinks, beach fun etc. No one is saying no to a foreign guy, with a nice apartment and some money to spend on dinners and drinks etc. I spoke with a masseuse in Mombassa who couldn't stay with the me in the evening because she needed to get home so agreed to let me fuck her best friend at night, and a college girl in Nairobi who will bring her friends to my apartment to swim in the pool and smoke weed in my apartment. And some much more crazy things too LOL!!

Who knows if these will happen, obviously I've not been yet, but my feeling is that Kenya really is the crazy wonderful place that people say it is. I will report back when I go.

If I can save you the time on Tinder. Just drop me a message. I'll share the contacts of the good ones.

And / or the guest friendly apartments I researched in Nairobi and Mombasa.

One final piece of advice so far. These girls on Tinder get asked for nude pictures every single day. Just be friendly, and not constantly over sexualised with them, be clear about what you want from them, but make human connections, you will stand out and they will be genuinely excited to meet you.

One for the seasoned Kenya travellers. ? I'm planning to fit a lot in to a very short trip. I wonder if anyone has the details of a good fixer? Not a pimp as such, but just someone who can provide good connections to hook up girls at short notice? In India they call these people 'service providers'. We have them in Kenya?

My aim is to arrange as much via Tinder as possibile and avoid at all costs hanging out in bars drinking to then only end of getting too drunk, robbed or just wasting all my time when I could going on dates with nice girls, or skipping the bars and bringing hook-ups directly to my apartment. A fixer would be handy to fill any gaps that come up LOL!! I know that any hook-up girl will also arrange other hook-ups for you. But just wondered if anyone had anyone they trust?

[QUOTE=JoeF479;2918405]I'm going to be in Nairobi for 2 weeks. It's my 4th-5th trip there. I've posted previously asking for more generic info. This time looking for specific reports on 207 lounge. I'll be there with my whole family, parents, kids, etc. I don't have a lot of free time to break away, but I'm staying somewhat near 207 and it seems like it might be the easiest place to slide away for an hour or so without anyone really noticing I'm gone. Any advice?? What time of day do they open? What time of day are women present? The earlier the better for me. Google maps says it's 24 hours. Is this true?[/QUOTE]I've spent quite sometime at 207 but I've refrained from posting for personal reasons. The ladies working here are expected to be onsite serving customers for the entirety of their shifts which can vary from 7 to 14 days. If you're a daytime monger, I'll guarantee that the top chicks will be asleep / resting / recovering from the previous nights activities and you'll not see them. Go in have fun and stay away from young rich kids camped out in them tents out back! Say coke being snorted off of smartphones last time I was there!

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2917612]My time ran out before I could reduce and load the three clubs in Miolongo. Tops Klub, Klub Best and Klub 110.[/QUOTE]Great job. Next time make sure to show up at night and have fun.

[QUOTE=Jonav;2918618]Hi Guys,

I'm planning right now for my first trip to Kenya. Just thought I would share my findings with you ahead of travelling.

Tinder 100% works. Just be really clear about what you're looking for. If you want a wife, a girlfriend, a hook-up, or guide, you can find them all. You will get literally 1000's of matches. It can get very time consuming very quickly to sort through it all so be prepared LOL. And expect that 80% of the short-term fun girls you match with will crack their screen phone or need data bundles from you the very next week after you start chatting. Do not send them money in advance. There are 1000's of girls. You don't need to send.

I've met a small handful of really nice girls, ranging between short-term girlfriends and hook-ups. Been talking for over 3 weeks now, had great video calls, long chats, all ready to do the nasty as soon as I arrive and not asked me for anything in advance. Happy to share their contact details with anyone. These girls are friends to me now though so just look after them with good benefit.

I also spent some time reaching out to various hotels and just calling up or whatsapp to ask about allowing guests. Everyone is very used to these questions. Don't be funny about asking. I found some hotels in Mombasa (can share the details) who will even arrange them for you too. Mostly the owners or hoteliers are simply worried about you getting robbed and would rather arrange girls for you they trust. For your safety. Seriously. I love Kenya already.

I'm booked into a very nice apartment in Nairobi with pool and rooftop restaurant, with no reception or walk of shame. Staff are very casual about me bringing people to the room and security check all ID but ask no questions. I can share the details.

My general experience, after speaking with a few masseuses, hotels, hook-up girls, escorts, etc is that anything goes. If you want something they will arrange it for you. I've discussed some crazy crazy ideas for parties, kinks, beach fun etc. No one is saying no to a foreign guy, with a nice apartment and some money to spend on dinners and drinks etc. I spoke with a masseuse in Mombassa who couldn't stay with the me in the evening because she needed to get home so agreed to let me fuck her best friend at night, and a college girl in Nairobi who will bring her friends to my apartment to swim in the pool and smoke weed in my apartment. And some much more crazy things too LOL!!

Who knows if these will happen, obviously I've not been yet, but my feeling is that Kenya really is the crazy wonderful place that people say it is. I will report back when I go.

If I can save you the time on Tinder. Just drop me a message. I'll share the contacts of the good ones.

And / or the guest friendly apartments I researched in Nairobi and Mombasa.

One final piece of advice so far. These girls on Tinder get asked for nude pictures every single day. Just be friendly, and not constantly over sexualised with them, be clear about what you want from them, but make human connections, you will stand out and they will be genuinely excited to meet you.

One for the seasoned Kenya travellers. ? I'm planning to fit a lot in to a very short trip. I wonder if anyone has the details of a good fixer? Not a pimp as such, but just someone who can provide good connections to hook up girls at short notice? In India they call these people 'service providers'. We have them in Kenya?

My aim is to arrange as much via Tinder as possibile and avoid at all costs hanging out in bars drinking to then only end of getting too drunk, robbed or just wasting all my time when I could going on dates with nice girls, or skipping the bars and bringing hook-ups directly to my apartment. A fixer would be handy to fill any gaps that come up LOL!! I know that any hook-up girl will also arrange other hook-ups for you. But just wondered if anyone had anyone they trust?[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting and sharing your knowledge.

Planning an upcoming visit to Nairobi and have made contact with a number of prospects on Seeking. Can anyone who has used SA in Nairobi share what the going rate has been for meets?

[QUOTE=Jonav;2918618]Hi Guys,

I'm planning right now for my first trip to Kenya. Just thought I would share my findings with you ahead of travelling.

Tinder 100% works. Just be really clear about what you're looking for. If you want a wife, a girlfriend, a hook-up, or guide, you can find them all. You will get literally 1000's of matches. It can get very time consuming very quickly to sort through it all so be prepared LOL. And expect that 80% of the short-term fun girls you match with will crack their screen phone or need data bundles from you the very next week after you start chatting. Do not send them money in advance. There are 1000's of girls. You don't need to send.

I've met a small handful of really nice girls, ranging between short-term girlfriends and hook-ups. Been talking for over 3 weeks now, had great video calls, long chats, all ready to do the nasty as soon as I arrive and not asked me for anything in advance. Happy to share their contact details with anyone. These girls are friends to me now though so just look after them with good benefit.

I also spent some time reaching out to various hotels and just calling up or whatsapp to ask about allowing guests. Everyone is very used to these questions. Don't be funny about asking. I found some hotels in Mombasa (can share the details) who will even arrange them for you too. Mostly the owners or hoteliers are simply worried about you getting robbed and would rather arrange girls for you they trust. For your safety. Seriously. I love Kenya already.

I'm booked into a very nice apartment in Nairobi with pool and rooftop restaurant, with no reception or walk of shame. Staff are very casual about me bringing people to the room and security check all ID but ask no questions. I can share the details.

My general experience, after speaking with a few masseuses, hotels, hook-up girls, escorts, etc is that anything goes. If you want something they will arrange it for you. I've discussed some crazy crazy ideas for parties, kinks, beach fun etc. No one is saying no to a foreign guy, with a nice apartment and some money to spend on dinners and drinks etc. I spoke with a masseuse in Mombassa who couldn't stay with the me in the evening because she needed to get home so agreed to let me fuck her best friend at night, and a college girl in Nairobi who will bring her friends to my apartment to swim in the pool and smoke weed in my apartment. And some much more crazy things too LOL!!

Who knows if these will happen, obviously I've not been yet, but my feeling is that Kenya really is the crazy wonderful place that people say it is. I will report back when I go.

If I can save you the time on Tinder. Just drop me a message. I'll share the contacts of the good ones.

And / or the guest friendly apartments I researched in Nairobi and Mombasa.

One final piece of advice so far. These girls on Tinder get asked for nude pictures every single day. Just be friendly, and not constantly over sexualised with them, be clear about what you want from them, but make human connections, you will stand out and they will be genuinely excited to meet you.

One for the seasoned Kenya travellers. ? I'm planning to fit a lot in to a very short trip. I wonder if anyone has the details of a good fixer? Not a pimp as such, but just someone who can provide good connections to hook up girls at short notice? In India they call these people 'service providers'. We have them in Kenya?

My aim is to arrange as much via Tinder as possibile and avoid at all costs hanging out in bars drinking to then only end of getting too drunk, robbed or just wasting all my time when I could going on dates with nice girls, or skipping the bars and bringing hook-ups directly to my apartment. A fixer would be handy to fill any gaps that come up LOL!! I know that any hook-up girl will also arrange other hook-ups for you. But just wondered if anyone had anyone they trust?[/QUOTE]I agree with you on everything. Tinder actually works in Kenya.

I was in Nairobi 1 time and plan to go again.

Let you know something, most women will ask 10,000 kes. You can easily drop it to 3000-5000 for a night, don't agree something more than 5,000 kes. According to other user in this forum, the locals pay only 1,000-2,000 kes for a night or short time. Sex is something fun for Kenyan women too, they like to do that so please don't be fool.
you can also find a regular woman who is not expecting money for sex, but it's depends on your game and your time online with the girl before arriving in Kenya

Good luck, you will enjoy.

And another thing, watch out from thieves, don't get out your phone on the road! Watch some YouTube videos that can explain want not to do in Kenya.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2920926]Sex is something fun for Kenyan women too, they like to do that so please don't be fool.[/QUOTE]But sex is something fun for pretty much all women. The catch is that it needs to be with someone they are attracted to. Usually works the same way with men.

I would like to know the names of strip clubs in Nairobi with nice girls (not brothel please).

There is a club 10 yards away from Boss Den (known as Black Diamond for years) in Westlands that opened up some months ago. I don't know the name, I have only been in once briefly and the waitresses are dressed in bikinis and there is a pole dancer in the club too. Maybe there is private dances I am not sure.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2920926]I agree with you on everything. Tinder actually works in Kenya.

I was in Nairobi 1 time and plan to go again.

Let you know something, most women will ask 10,000 kes. You can easily drop it to 3000-5000 for a night, don't agree something more than 5,000 kes. According to other user in this forum, the locals pay only 1,000-2,000 kes for a night or short time. Sex is something fun for Kenyan women too, they like to do that so please don't be fool.
you can also find a regular woman who is not expecting money for sex, but it's depends on your game and your time online with the girl before arriving in Kenya

Good luck, you will enjoy.

And another thing, watch out from thieves, don't get out your phone on the road! Watch some YouTube videos that can explain want not to do in Kenya.[/QUOTE]And then the old, "Can you pay for my taxi too?" line after you give her the money you can say no.

[QUOTE=Gymrat9;2920988]And then the old, "Can you pay for my taxi too?" line after you give her the money you can say no.[/QUOTE]Once you give them money on the first time, it will never end and they will ask for more. They are hungry for money. Actually, in Kenya, the women believe man need to pay for everything for woman.

Hi everyone,

I read a lot of pages in here and also I was already in Nairobi twice.

So far I have only one good place that I picked up girls- Sabina Joy.

The problem in Sabina is that most of girls there are fat and ugly. It take time to wait there to pick up a 7/8 girl which is a gem in there.

I would like to check some new places not far from the centre. Like Westlands for example, but could be other area.

Could you recommend some good places to pick up (to have a choice) some young and beautiful girls for a night? Preferable with some action at early evening or even at daytime! I have just 2 days and I would like to find some girls around early afternoon (noon to 4 pm) to test them ST before invite them for a night.

Preferable something similar to Sabina, but not with only big mammas.

I went to Boss Den once around 7-9 pm but it was completely empty.

Message parlours are not for me, high price for a service.

I'm not willing to pay more than 5 k /6 k for a night, unless its f'and Naomi Campbell 2.0.

Appreciate any directions that I could check myself while there!

[QUOTE=Klklklll;2921587]Hi everyone, I went to Boss Den once around 7-9 pm but it was completely empty. ![/QUOTE]I.

You have to go on a Friday or Saturday at midnight. 7 to 9 pm is way too early.

Try using apps like tinder or badoo.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2921964]I.

You have to go on a Friday or Saturday at midnight. 7 to 9 pm is way too early.

Try using apps like tinder or badoo.[/QUOTE]Good to know! Seems like a plan! I'll be there Saturday day+night.

So afternoon time some ST action in Sabina, than rest till evening and go to Boss Den around 11 pm to pick-up some 20 yo sweetie for a night.

Is there big choice of girls at midnight? Is it same like in Sabina that almost all of them are huge or easier to get some slim Young woman?

Tinder / Badoo is too much effort for 1 d+1 n visit. Sometimes worked for me well before in Kenya / Tanzania and I even had some great girls without paying (just Taxi is a standard). But in most cases I wasted time (girld didn't come, or we went first fir a party and nothing happened after) which I cannot do having such short time.

Its much easier to see the girls next to me, choose hot one and just take her to MG place.

Tinder works 100%, but after using Tinder for 1 year, the matches are not like before.

Do you guys can recommend me a good dating app that a lot of Kenyan girls using inside Nairobi?

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2920984]There is a club 10 yards away from Boss Den (known as Black Diamond for years) in Westlands that opened up some months ago. I don't know the name, I have only been in once briefly and the waitresses are dressed in bikinis and there is a pole dancer in the club too. Maybe there is private dances I am not sure.[/QUOTE]I was just there the other night. Not great, asked for a bunch of 100 KSH bills and was told no. Overall not a great experience compared to US (hood) strip clubs. Better off going to Boss Den at 11 pm or later. More fun, women more active, better selection too.

First few days stayed in Hurlingham near Quiver Lounge. Quiver definitely had some nice prospects but I was with family on each trip there. Good eye candy tho and could see the potential. Never had a chance to break away to 207 or any other place for that matter.

After some time moved locations to near village market and was able to break away for about 3-4 hours on a Wednesday afternoon around 3 pm. Hopped in an uber and went to 207. Selection wasn't great but not terrible, mostly 5's and 6's. Had 2 get super aggressive with me as soon as I walked in, sat down with me and both started rubbing my leg and grabbing it. Both gave me the 4 k for the room and hour price. Tried to negotiate, was told the price is the price. Didn't want a 3 some so I promised both of them I'd take turns. First was Blue. She had big tits but lots of stretch marks, one could assume a bunch of kids or at least 2. Decent face. She was CD for every thing. Gave a decent massage, let me suck her tits and titty fuck her which was awesome but head and sex condom only. After about 7-8 days of not cumming, I didn't last long cost me 4 k plus I tipped 2 k, was super happy with that. Took a short break, had a drink and then fulfilled my promise to Doreen. She was thinner, definitely no kids, no stretch marks, smaller tits, great ass, decent face probably a 6. Not super hot but very nice. Gave me head with no condom. And really got into the sex. Again 4 k for the room and a 3 k tip, seemed disappointed with that. Both were VERY average experiences.

A few more days went by and I couldn't get away but a 2nd opportunity arose to go out in the evening alone and made my way back to 207. Whoa! Totally different at 7 pm on I think on a Friday. A few friendly dudes where there and 1 of them struck up a convo with me. He told during the day as JARG mentions that it's not very good. Only at night do the best ones come out. He also told me 4 k is the price for everything and only then should I agree to more and it's my choice if service is good to even tip anything. Ok. 2 k is like $15 bucks. So as someone who is financially successful, it's not a big deal giving a 2-3 k tip. Anyway I met a ton of 6-8's that night and ultimately choose Chastine?? I think that was her name. Younger girl about 24 (also both Doreen and Blue were early 20's), nice full tits, great ass. Had like a cheerleading skirt with no underwear the night I was there. Got upstairs, full GFE, kissing, sucking, 69, head with no condom, everything was top notch. Probably the best experience I had there. Would have absolutely seen her again if I had been able to go back.

Also before I go further, I found it interesting, at least 3 and maybe 4 of the chicks told me oh wow you have such a nice big dick. I truly don't believe by American standards it's big. I think it's pretty average and I'm not ashamed of it at all. Just made me think maybe Kenyans have small dicks.

So I never again had time to get to 207 (it's a lit bit of a trip if you aren't in that part of town). I tried finding somewhere in Westlands, for a daytime encounter but couldn't. Until I heard about Crystal Spa / Massage on Biashara St. The first time I went they told me 3. 5 k. They sent a bunch of girls in and I chose Happiness, a fit young sexy thang, probably a 7. 5 or so. Very sexy. She gave me a quick massage on the back of my legs but I think she could tell by my humping the bed that I wanted some action so after grabbing it from behind a few times during the massge asked if I wanted to turn over. Asked for the head no condom and it got so hot, we did it all without one. Gave a 5 k tip and she was literally asking me to marry her. LOL.

My last experience was the next lunchtime back at Crystal. Picked Zara this time and came to find out it was her first day. She spent an eternity massaging me and doing it very professionally. To be honest I lost my boner because it was such a deep massage and at times bordered on painful. Very attractive woman tho, probably a 7. Got totally naked for the massage and let me touch her quite a bit. But it wasn't moving forward and evetually I had to ask straight up are we going to have some extras. She replied with well you told the "host" only a massage. So being her first day she had to ask if she could do more, pricing etc as I was her very first Crystal client ever (she said she used to work in hurlingham previously). She came back and said it would be an extra 1 k for full service. I agreed and she insisted on condom for everything. It was decent but very transactional like my first 2 at 207.

So tl: dr recap.

Blue - 207 - 5 in looks, 5 in experience.

Doreen - 207 - 6 in looks - 6 in experience.

Chastine - 207 - 7. 5 in looks - 8 in experience.

Happiness. Crystal - 7. 5 in looks - 8 in experience.

Zara. Crystal - 7 in looks - 5 in experience.

Anyone can confirm what is recent price in Liddos if I get there to get a girl for short time? Let's say half hour (or 1 shot) with BBBJ?

Headed to Nairobi for a few weeks to work. Planning to stay in Westlands. A lot of new options since I was last there. Anything particularly girl-friendly? Any hassles in the more expensive hotels? Any hotels with interesting bar / lobby action?

[QUOTE=LivingAbroad;2923925]Headed to Nairobi for a few weeks to work. Planning to stay in Westlands. A lot of new options since I was last there. Anything particularly girl-friendly? Any hassles in the more expensive hotels? Any hotels with interesting bar / lobby action?[/QUOTE]Just changed from Nairobi to Mombasa. Had a good AirBnB close to the Westlands, Kingara Road Urban Oasis Appartments, I can recommend. Junction Mall and its public transport hub within Walking distance; Naivas on other side of road, also having some lunch offers. No problem with guests after one time 1000 KSh donation to the guard.

Last time I was there the price 2000 bob and this was back in February 2024. Expect the women to charge you way more thanks to the new changes in the finance bill that's being pushed through this year's legislation.

[QUOTE=Klklklll;2923662]Anyone can confirm what is recent price in Liddos if I get there to get a girl for short time? Let's say half hour (or 1 shot) with BBBJ?[/QUOTE]

I think as of now the women will be steadfast on their prices or should I say they won't budge. And also expect for everyone including the locals to pay more than 1000 bob. The government is currently taxing everyone and almost everything Kenya's do in order to make their budget proposal. I had absolutely no idea the Kenyan government was so corrupt they have literally almost 700 million dollars in unaccounted money and the only thing I see is that they are trying to maintain their lavish lifestyles.

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce77ld43lngo.amp[/URL]

[QUOTE=JoeF479;2922690]First few days stayed in Hurlingham near Quiver Lounge. Quiver definitely had some nice prospects but I was with family on each trip there. Good eye candy tho and could see the potential. Never had a chance to break away to 207 or any other place for that matter.

After some time moved locations to near village market and was able to break away for about 3-4 hours on a Wednesday afternoon around 3 pm. Hopped in an uber and went to 207. Selection wasn't great but not terrible, mostly 5's and 6's. Had 2 get super aggressive with me as soon as I walked in, sat down with me and both started rubbing my leg and grabbing it. Both gave me the 4 k for the room and hour price. Tried to negotiate, was told the price is the price. Didn't want a 3 some so I promised both of them I'd take turns. First was Blue. She had big tits but lots of stretch marks, one could assume a bunch of kids or at least 2. Decent face. She was CD for every thing. Gave a decent massage, let me suck her tits and titty fuck her which was awesome but head and sex condom only. After about 7-8 days of not cumming, I didn't last long cost me 4 k plus I tipped 2 k, was super happy with that. Took a short break, had a drink and then fulfilled my promise to Doreen. She was thinner, definitely no kids, no stretch marks, smaller tits, great ass, decent face probably a 6. Not super hot but very nice. Gave me head with no condom. And really got into the sex. Again 4 k for the room and a 3 k tip, seemed disappointed with that..[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure if my lengthy questions ever will post or it's taking a while for it to be approved so I'll ask again incase.

Does wearing a wedding ring help or hurt approaches?

Should I wear it, remove it, or it doesn't matter?

Will females approach you if you are wearing a ring?

What are your suggestions and views on that. I never seen this mentioned in any forum.

[QUOTE=PhotoGuyVegas;2924571]I'm not sure if my lengthy questions ever will post or it's taking a while for it to be approved so I'll ask again incase.

Does wearing a wedding ring help or hurt approaches?

Should I wear it, remove it, or it doesn't matter?

Will females approach you if you are wearing a ring?

What are your suggestions and views on that. I never seen this mentioned in any forum.[/QUOTE]They could not care if you have a wedding ring or your wife is with you. Money is that matters.

Ok, here are my observations.

Definitely don't need to use seeking to meet women. Tinder and Bumble will keep you plenty busy if you go that route. I had over 1500 women looking to meet from my Tinder premium account over my 10 day stay. CRAZY! I have never seen that anywhere else in the world and I have traveled a lot.

Almost every chica I took out didn't wear panties. Pretty hot. Must be a Kenyan thing.

Every chica I met didn't ask for money ahead of time or even mention money. Just went out for dinner (nicer than average) and / or drinks and they were down for play time after. I would put a small gift in their purse before they left that night or the following morning.

Traffic is a damn nightmare in Nairobi. Just a total mess to get around. Choose your location very carefully. I stayed in Westlands but I heard good things about Kilimana and Lavington as well. The expressway is not that impressive. The uber drivers will push you to pay for it and take it, but there are very few off ramps so you will still be stuck in traffic for 30 minutes once you exit.

The malls have a lot of talent, especially on the weekends. Sarit Center was a WOW. I highly recommend staying near a good mall as they all seem to have quality super markets.

There are VERY few or no working street lights in Nairobi. Its like a power outage at night. Its so strange as the fixtures are there but the government is fighting over who needs to maintain them (National or county govt). As someone said recently, the corruption is BAD in Kenya. Nobody seems to like the current Pres and he is there until 2027. Be mindful of ongoing protests. They take place in the CBD. Avoid.

If you are going to be in Kenya for more than a few days / week, take the steps and get your phone on the Mpesa payment program. I can't believe how many times employees had excuses for not accepting credit cards. Such a pain!

I had my T-mobil international cell phone service going with a paid add on boost as well, and my phone still had problems in Nairobi. Not sure why but FYI.

I didn't go out too much at night besides dinner and some lounges, but the few spots I hit that had some great civi / semi pro talent were: Nairobi Street Kitchen (Thur), Havana Bar (Definite WG's here), K1 Club House, Alchemist, Ibiza (arrive early), and Brew Bistro (Awesome place).

At the end of the day, I've never been in a city where it truly feels like foreigners are a huge prize for any local. It really feels that ANY woman is available if you find her interesting.

Salud.

Taco.

I concur with that review Taco.

I very rarely go to clubs as in Kenya they are just too loud so apps is the way to go.

Also, the in person approach as. Well, I have no problem going up to any woman I see in the shops, street or wherever, they 90% respond and most will meet you if you arrange something with them.

How much were you giving them as a gift though?

[QUOTE=PhotoGuyVegas;2924571]I'm not sure if my lengthy questions ever will post or it's taking a while for it to be approved so I'll ask again incase.

Does wearing a wedding ring help or hurt approaches?

Should I wear it, remove it, or it doesn't matter?

Will females approach you if you are wearing a ring?

What are your suggestions and views on that. I never seen this mentioned in any forum.[/QUOTE]I have never worn a wedding ring. But I always tell the girls I am married. There are some girls on Tagged / hi5/ Badoo / Thaifriendly etc for whom this makes difference. But for the 75% who don't care, it makes life easier afterwards. It's easier to shed a girlfriend who wants to get serious and easier to say no to requests for money if you let them know you are married.

Kenya is slightly different than the Dominican Republic, Thailand, Philippines, etc. I have not found a girl in Kenya yet who would not get together with me because of my marital status. It's the easiest country to find a girl for sex of any I have yet been to; so many pretty girls I met there agree to sex without the hassle of courtship or promises of money (although most expect money after the sex is finished). I would be interested to know if anyone disagrees with this statement as I would really (!) like to visit a country even easier than Kenya.

[QUOTE=PhotoGuyVegas;2924571]Does wearing a wedding ring help or hurt approaches? Should I wear it, remove it, or it doesn't matter?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhotoGuyVegas;2924571]Will females approach you if you are wearing a ring?[/QUOTE]Have you ever in your life had the "problem" of too many women approaching you even before you had a wedding ring? Usually it is guys that do the approaching, unless you are in some kind of hooker den. And even in most of those guys do the approaching.

Last time I visited Nairobi those areas had street lights on, you are nation whom not to long ago got its independence. The country infrastructure was heavily damaged due to a recent flooding that claimed the lives over 200 Kenyans. In Africa the government is unwilling to spend any money on it's citizens it's all about taking from them to enrich their lives. Tito places Kenya on the international map as an excellent country to invest in but where do the money go? So moving on to the dating scene I think it's best to pay for sex than to look for the love of your life in Nairobi. Money is very hard to come by and so is a job that pays descent wages, sometimes you can work for an employer for 3 months and not even get compensated! The government has a so called taxable income on 30% of Kenyans monthly wages it makes it hard for most Kenyans to survive. Kenyan women and men are looking for someone to take them out of Africa. The women will try to portray themselves as not being working girls but looking for a gentleman to go out to eat with and possibly date and marriage. Simply because their goal is to leave Africa indefinitely and start a new life in Germany, USA, Australia, England or even Russia! No black African wants to live in Africa unless they're a politician or corrupt businessman that can benefit from the country system.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2924867]Ok, here are my observations.

Definitely don't need to use seeking to meet women. Tinder and Bumble will keep you plenty busy if you go that route. I had over 1500 women looking to meet from my Tinder premium account over my 10 day stay. CRAZY! I have never seen that anywhere else in the world and I have traveled a lot.

Almost every chica I took out didn't wear panties. Pretty hot. Must be a Kenyan thing.

Every chica I met didn't ask for money ahead of time or even mention money. Just went out for dinner (nicer than average) and / or drinks and they were down for play time after. I would put a small gift in their purse before they left that night or the following morning.

Traffic is a damn nightmare in Nairobi. Just a total mess to get around. Choose your location very carefully. I stayed in Westlands but I heard good things about Kilimana and Lavington as well. The expressway is not that impressive. The uber drivers will push you to pay for it and take it, but there are very few off ramps so you will still be stuck in traffic for 30 minutes once you exit.

The malls have a lot of talent, especially on the weekends. Sarit Center was a WOW. I highly recommend staying near a good mall as they all seem to have quality super markets..[/QUOTE]

Africa is largely a polygamist society it's widely understood that a man will have 2 wives and 5 girlfriends and the end result is they don't care if you're married or not it's understood in their country that's how men behave. Now I want to say this a lot of those women have boyfriends or husbands. And these women will try to find the opportunity to cheat on them if they can! I'm not even Kenya right now I got 13 different women whom I never even saw naked before but I met them on a dating app or in the streets. They discuss with me everyday about how we are in a relationship and they love and miss me and one day we are going to get married. And let me say this with 2 I witnessed their significant other beat their ass over a WhatsApp video call for cheating!

[QUOTE=PhotoGuyVegas;2924571]I'm not sure if my lengthy questions ever will post or it's taking a while for it to be approved so I'll ask again incase.

Does wearing a wedding ring help or hurt approaches?

Should I wear it, remove it, or it doesn't matter?

Will females approach you if you are wearing a ring?

What are your suggestions and views on that. I never seen this mentioned in any forum.[/QUOTE]

Hi guys!

I will be in Nairobi near future and I am alone traveller. I visited Thailand, Ukraine, Russia, Turkey, England etc for fun. I also like getting some massage. If you can help me about finding good massage in Nairobi I will be very happy. Nuru, erotic or some different massage I like. Except tinder or other app how can I find good outcall escoet service in this country? This my second help title.

Thanks a lot.

4 K ($31) was the standard gift. Hope that's not ruining in for everyone. These girls would spend the night and it was as many pops as I want. Pretty surreal.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2924874]I concur with that review Taco.

I very rarely go to clubs as in Kenya they are just too loud so apps is the way to go.

Also, the in person approach as. Well, I have no problem going up to any woman I see in the shops, street or wherever, they 90% respond and most will meet you if you arrange something with them.

How much were you giving them as a gift though?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2925435]4 K ($31) was the standard gift. Hope that's not ruining in for everyone. These girls would spend the night and it was as many pops as I want. Pretty surreal.[/QUOTE]That is a fair amount for them to get by on.

I always give the girls in Mombasa 3 k for an hour. In Nairobi 4-5 k is fair imo.

The action covered here was in the first two weeks of June, before the current protests.

Summary of 3 massage places, Pucolin spa and Nokay Spa at 15 Westlands road, opposite Graffins college and Massage girls Ngara, located at City View house unit 711, in Ngara.

Cost of basic massage Ksh 3,000 and extra range Ksh 2,000 to 3,000.

I went to Pucolin on two occasions and got massage from Lynn and Sharon (I had mentioned her on another report October 23).

Location is as posted above, there are two older 4 story apartment buildings once you go past the gate. The massage parlors are located to the Left side building.

You go up a flight of stairs and Pucolin is to the left while Nokay is to the right. At Pucolin, lady at the door asked if I wanted a specific girl or get the line up, I opted for the line up. There were 6 girls, 3 stunners and 3 so so lookwise.

I selected Lynn, aged 24 her looks reminded me of Venus Williams the tennis star, cornrows and dark muscular complex. She came to the room, and asked what I wanted. I replied basic massage.

I think it was Swedish massage. I also told her I wanted extra, she right away said that there is no sex at this business. I was firm on what I wanted and was ready to walk out or get another girl. I explained that I had FS from a girl here in the past. She was willing to work with me, she said the extra was 2 k. And extra range from HJ, boob-job, CBJ and FS. She explained that the establishment has instructed the girls that no sex, however the girls do it still for extra pay. She then asked if I had a rubber, I said no. She left to go look for one, and was back shortly. The massage was great, and her FS was tight. She then told me that I have to pay house fee separate and her separate. I asked her if Sharon from previous encounter was working there, she said yes, but was off on this particular day. This proved to me that the girls at Pucolin were giving me their real names. I asked her what she knew about next door Nokay spa, she said that all they did there was (kukulana) Swahili slang to fuck. I verified her name as I sent her fee via Mpesa, then paid the house fee on my way out.

I went to the Pucolin a week later and asked for Sharon, and she came to the room. I remembered her, and after chit chat I explained that I wanted a massage and FS. Just like Lynn she said no sex at the business. I explained that I had gotten FS from her in the past. This time I had a rubber in my pocket, so when she asked if I had one it was available. Her massage was easy, and FS was great. I sent her the extra fee via Mpesa, and verified her name too. My advice to mongers is, for Pucolin carry a rubber, ask the girl upfront if what you want is on the menu, and if unable to work a deal get another girl. Just that you know house policy is no sex. Apparently most regulars come and ask for a specific girl.

Nokay Spa: They are at the same building as Pucolin, door is to the right side. I asked for the line up, seven girls come in. 3 were okay and the other 4 definitely not what I wanted. I chose Claire, tiny light skinned girl. She came to the room and I told her I wanted massage and FS. She said it was 3 K massage and 2 K extra. One thing at Nokay, they don't have regular massage tables, just a firm queen size bed, this works okay for the client, but definitely tough on the masseuse. Claire doesn't say much but she hit all the right spots in massage and when it came to FS, she was quite smooth, licking the balls and caressing her nipples with the tip of my dick, all this without me asking for it. Definitely understood the assignment. I started CG, mish and finished doggy. I came to the same place a week later and did the same routine with her. I gave her 5,500 for everything. At Nokay you can pay fro massage, FS plus tip all on Mpesa, you just have to get the front desk lady check the phone for confirmation text that you paid.

Massage girls Ngara:

I saw the ad on Google maps and decided to give it a shot. They are located at City View house, Kienjeku Road. Less than 5 minutes walk from Fig Tree. This is a big building and since I did not know where they are located I asked the security guard. The lady told me that I need to call the business and find out the unit number before she could let me in. She was asking everyone what unit they are going, and some people were asked to sign a book and leave ID cards. I suspect there are some rental rooms or hostels being run in the building. I called the number from Google maps ad for the business and the lady on the phone said they were at unit 711, so if you are going there, that is the room number. On a side note, Ngara area is synonymous with hostels for college going young people in Nairobi. In the evenings there are plenty of street walkers in this area, generally from Museum hill, down Kipande road, then move towards where Limuru road starts, and Wangari Maathai road to the north. As for the massage parlor, there was no written sign, just a landscape painting lit by LED, and a bell to press at the door. I was ushered into a room. Line up had 6 girls half great lookers, and half about 4-5 looks. I selected "Mishi" a short girl from coastal region. This was not her real name, because when she gave me the number to send Mpesa, it brought up a different name. Massage cost was 3 k and extra 3 k. On Google maps they claim to operate 24-7, but I recommend calling and setting up a time to come in. Mishi did massage well, and had her medium sized boobs all over my face during this time. Afterwards there was FS with CG, mish and doggy to finish off. When it came to payment she gave me a number to send the 6 k to the business, then gave me her personal number for tip. She told me next time I can call her and set up the day and time to come see her.

How much did you spend for the night with the girls you met on Tinder? In the local currency please. And when this was, in which city?

Did they give you ass, do they swallow?

I am travelling to Uganda, but I am considering to spend some time in Kenya after, because I read girls are naughty, and frankly Kampala is a shit hole.

Could be Kenya, Tanzania or Rwanda, I didn't make my mind yet. After I will be moving to Asia for a while, and then South America. Open to consider other alternatives.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2924867]Ok, here are my observations.

Definitely don't need to use seeking to meet women. Tinder and Bumble will keep you plenty busy if you go that route. I had over 1500 women looking to meet from my Tinder premium account over my 10 day stay. CRAZY! I have never seen that anywhere else in the world and I have traveled a lot.

Almost every chica I took out didn't wear panties. Pretty hot. Must be a Kenyan thing.[/QUOTE]

What is bob?

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2907720]I don't have time to read all your other reports to make sure you are genuine but If your story is truth somehow you are playing with your life man!! Its silly to go this kind of places if you don't have any clue what are you doing and the prices you been quoted is rip off. IF you look for cheap sex and a bit more safety environment next time better go Sabina joy offer girl 1000 bob for short time +300 pay for room and don't have all this kind of problems.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ElMoreno92;2931587]What is bob?[/QUOTE]Money, the shilling is known as bob. 1000 shilling, 1000 bob.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2927693]How much did you spend for the night with the girls you met on Tinder? In the local currency please. And when this was, in which city?

Did they give you ass, do they swallow?

I am travelling to Uganda, but I am considering to spend some time in Kenya after, because I read girls are naughty, and frankly Kampala is a shit hole.

Could be Kenya, Tanzania or Rwanda, I didn't make my mind yet. After I will be moving to Asia for a while, and then South America. Open to consider other alternatives.[/QUOTE]2000 bobs is the right price for Tinder girls (but they are the same girls you meet on the street) + 500 for the transport service.

You will find the smart girl she will ask you to use Uber but you can rest assured that she will arrive by matatu.

Then there are some variations.

If you are a fat old man with beer always in hand and with little care about your physical appearance you will pay more.

If you look for sex in a club (the stupidest thing to do in Kenya) you will pay more.

All women in Kenya are sluts but if they can they make their choice, if they can't they ask to be paid more.

In any case, everyone falls madly in love with you, because you are special and different from other men.

Get married and be happy forever.

Returning a second time to Nairobi.

July is a very cold month and I just wanted to stay in my bed, but I came to fuck.

I stayed in Kilimani, an area considered safe for tourists and with lots of white Asians.

I've been on Tinder for a year talking to girls and getting a lot of matches.

200 cell phone numbers, 100 of them want money for support, 50 want a white boyfriend for money, 20 of them just want to talk on the cell phone and play stupid games, 30 of them are looking for true love.

But they all meet with you and are serious about the meeting and don't make excuses like the Thai women.

When I arrived in Nairobi and tried to meet the girls, I found out that they were very far from my place of stay (lesson: put the search for girls at a distance of less than 5 kilometers).

I paid a taxi for the girl, and I asked those who were far away to come by minibus.

Taxi prices are not expensive, but I didn't find it justified to pay so much just for a taxi.

Beware of scams in the Bolt app! I have experienced several times that drivers continue the trip even when you are not in the taxi and then when they stop, you pay another 1,000 shillings for the trip.

Another scam is that they report as if you boarded a taxi but you didn't and they receive the money (if you paid via credit card or payment app).

Fraud number 3, it happened to me that the driver did not drive according to the recommendation of Google Maps and he deliberately drove to where there were a lot of traffic jams so that he would get more money from waiting in traffic.

Bolt is a cheap travel app, but as you can see, the experience with it was not very good. But I still recommend using it because it's cheap and sometimes it's just the luck of which driver you fall on.

The girls I met with are girls I've talked to for a long time online.

Some of them let me fuck them and those who didn't, wanted more dates before sex but I didn't have the energy for dates. I didn't pay them any money at all, you can fuck for free in Nairobi, it depends on your age, how you look, and how you talk to them. Most of the girls who asked me for money online got blocked.

Recommendations.

I advise you not to give the girls money for a taxi before they come to you, bring them only after they leave the apartment, from painful experience!

Don't be surprised if even the guards at the hotel ask you for money for food.

Enjoy, don't be a friar, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask here with my quote.

On the next trip, I want to travel to Uganda and Rwanda, can anyone tell me how the experience was? Is there a difference between the women in these countries and Kenya?

I'll hate to say this not only the women but the citizens of these African countries can't wait to see Mzungus come because they pay ridiculous price for sex. $50 or Euros in Kenya is way too much money to pay for sex based upon the current exchange rate! I saw some guys go to Sierra Leone and pay $70 for sex when the price to fuck a chick is equivalent to. 60 for a local and that's slightly more than half a dollar! I'll be back there in September for 3 weeks I'll give another report after I leave.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2932608]Returning a second time to Nairobi.

July is a very cold month and I just wanted to stay in my bed, but I came to fuck.

I stayed in Kilimani, an area considered safe for tourists and with lots of white Asians.

I've been on Tinder for a year talking to girls and getting a lot of matches.

200 cell phone numbers, 100 of them want money for support, 50 want a white boyfriend for money, 20 of them just want to talk on the cell phone and play stupid games, 30 of them are looking for true love.

But they all meet with you and are serious about the meeting and don't make excuses like the Thai women.

When I arrived in Nairobi and tried to meet the girls, I found out that they were very far from my place of stay (lesson: put the search for girls at a distance of less than 5 kilometers).

I paid a taxi for the girl, and I asked those who were far away to come by minibus.

Taxi prices are not expensive, but I didn't find it justified to pay so much just for a taxi.

Beware of scams in the Bolt app! I have experienced several times that drivers continue the trip even when you are not in the taxi and then when they stop, you pay another 1,000 shillings for the trip.

Another scam is that they report as if you boarded a taxi but you didn't and they receive the money (if you paid via credit card or payment app).

Fraud number 3, it happened to me that the driver did not drive according to the recommendation of Google Maps and he deliberately drove to where there were a lot of traffic jams so that he would get more money from waiting in traffic.

Bolt is a cheap travel app, but as you can see, the experience with it was not very good. But I still recommend using it because it's cheap and sometimes it's just the luck of which driver you fall on.

The girls I met with are girls I've talked to for a long time online.

Some of them let me fuck them and those who didn't, wanted more dates before sex but I didn't have the energy for dates. I didn't pay them any money at all, you can fuck for free in Nairobi, it depends on your age, how you look, and how you talk to them. Most of the girls who asked me for money online got blocked.

Recommendations.

I advise you not to give the girls money for a taxi before they come to you, bring them only after they leave the apartment, from painful experience!

Don't be surprised if even the guards at the hotel ask you for money for food.

Enjoy, don't be a friar, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask here with my quote.

On the next trip, I want to travel to Uganda and Rwanda, can anyone tell me how the experience was? Is there a difference between the women in these countries and Kenya?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;2933141]I'll hate to say this not only the women but the citizens of these African countries can't wait to see Mzungus come because they pay ridiculous price for sex. $50 or Euros in Kenya is way too much money to pay for sex based upon the current exchange rate! I saw some guys go to Sierra Leone and pay $70 for sex when the price to fuck a chick is equivalent to. 60 for a local and that's slightly more than half a dollar! I'll be back there in September for 3 weeks I'll give another report after I leave.[/QUOTE]I know some Kenyan girl that has a guy from France, he gives her 150 ERU every week!

Probably this guy is amazed by her big ass and he thinks if he gives her money every week so she will save her pussy only for him, but guess what, I fucked her two weeks ago LOL!

Poor man thinks he can own a girl in Africa with his money.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2933255]I know some Kenyan girl that has a guy from France, he gives her 150 ERU every week!

Probably this guy is amazed by her big ass and he thinks if he gives her money every week so she will save her pussy only for him, but guess what, I fucked her two weeks ago LOL!

Poor man thinks he can own a girl in Africa with his money.[/QUOTE]

Well, if I don't pay my jobless girlfriend some allowance for rent or food, she is forced to find it from somewhere else!

But if I pay her an allowance- at least it's her free choice if she wants to F*ck around or not.

Simple.

Auro.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2933255]I know some Kenyan girl that has a guy from France, he gives her 150 ERU every week!

Probably this guy is amazed by her big ass and he thinks if he gives her money every week so she will save her pussy only for him, but guess what, I fucked her two weeks ago LOL!

Poor man thinks he can own a girl in Africa with his money.[/QUOTE]Small fry. A friend of mine sends his £4000 a month, he can well afford it as his pension is £15000 per month.

I have over 20 yrs in Kenya, pay them all 3 k a fuck and never be their friend, keep it purely business.

I am going to Nairobi and Kisumu in less than a month.

I understand that many guys are over paying the girls, and sending money on the internet for GF that are fucking other guys. I read this and I make a mental check that I should pay this advice some heed.

For the record, most of the men here (including myself) are not faithful, so I put little importance in this feature of the girls whom we have sex with. I do not care if they pretend to be my GF while quietly fucking one, two or more other men on the side. I have even sent money to girls who have boyfriends. I do this to keep the relationship going (primarily to keep the easy access to sex).

While everyone has their price point, I would like to know how I can find the most GFE girl who is also a beauty. Nice body, face, willing to BBBJ, DFK, BBFS, CIM (I never CIP because I know that none of these girls can be trusted to be on birth control), etc. Tinder? Badoo? One of the bars? (if so, which one), etc.

Please do not burden me with info on pricing. I can figure that out.

MANY THANKS.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2933255]I know some Kenyan girl that has a guy from France, he gives her 150 ERU every week!

Probably this guy is amazed by her big ass and he thinks if he gives her money every week so she will save her pussy only for him, but guess what, I fucked her two weeks ago LOL!

Poor man thinks he can own a girl in Africa with his money.[/QUOTE]Very funny! Feeding a working girl to meet a couple of times a year with 600 euros a month.

But perhaps he is a very rich man who spends his money as he sees fit.

In this case he does very well.

Unfortunately, very often they are men who are sincerely in love with girls who are sincerely interested (only in money).

The same happens in many other places, from Thailand to Cuba. Men who keep working girls willing to do anything.

But in my life I have never found a place like Kenya where it is impossible to have doubts.

[QUOTE=JohnAuro;2933259]Well, if I don't pay my jobless girlfriend some allowance for rent or food, she is forced to find it from somewhere else!

But if I pay her an allowance- at least it's her free choice if she wants to F*ck around or not.

Simple.

Auro.[/QUOTE]Your concept of 'girlfriend' is very interesting.

I really like to eat a salami sandwich every now and then.

I have never used salami to put it on my eyes.

I've always eaten it.

[QUOTE=Oiste;2933334]Very funny! Feeding a working girl to meet a couple of times a year with 600 euros a month.

But perhaps he is a very rich man who spends his money as he sees fit.

In this case he does very well.

Unfortunately, very often they are men who are sincerely in love with girls who are sincerely interested (only in money).

The same happens in many other places, from Thailand to Cuba. Men who keep working girls willing to do anything.

But in my life I have never found a place like Kenya where it is impossible to have doubts.[/QUOTE]She is not a working woman. I met with her in 2023 on Tinder and talked on WhatsApp for 6 months, we didn't get along and she found the French guy, but she told me she would meet with me regardless of her boyfriend.

It's not about being rich, it's about being a simp loser that afraid of losing a girl if you don't pay her something, this is pathetic and it will rise the price for girls.

You have no idea how sorry I feel for that man. The money he gives her, will rise more and more, and also her family will gain from that, and it's not win-win situation.

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Hello to the community. After several trips to SEA, it's time for Africa.

I'm 40 years old and I'm of decent appearance, I speak English well.

3 week trip, between Nairobi and Mombasa (Malindi location).

It will be a solo trip where I hope to be in sweet company almost every night. GFE experiences with girls next door. From what I've read, tinder / badoo should work, but I don't want to risk not concluding directly on the first date.

-Is it worth activating tinder plus before leaving? In order to prepare the ground. - On tinder, is it better for me to be direct, making it clear that I want to conclude on the first date?

The rate from what I've read should be around 2000 plus taxi.

Approaching on the street can be useful.

[QUOTE=Barrett84;2934779]Hello to the community. After several trips to SEA, it's time for Africa.

I'm 40 years old and I'm of decent appearance, I speak English well.

3 week trip, between Nairobi and Mombasa (Malindi location).

It will be a solo trip where I hope to be in sweet company almost every night. GFE experiences with girls next door. From what I've read, tinder / badoo should work, but I don't want to risk not concluding directly on the first date.

-Is it worth activating tinder plus before leaving? In order to prepare the ground. - On tinder, is it better for me to be direct, making it clear that I want to conclude on the first date?

The rate from what I've read should be around 2000 plus taxi.

Approaching on the street can be useful.[/QUOTE]Why Malindi, it has been closed for years.

Be direct, they are only interested in money not you.

[QUOTE=Barrett84;2934779]Hello to the community. After several trips to SEA, it's time for Africa.

I'm 40 years old and I'm of decent appearance, I speak English well.

3 week trip, between Nairobi and Mombasa (Malindi location).

It will be a solo trip where I hope to be in sweet company almost every night. GFE experiences with girls next door. From what I've read, tinder / badoo should work, but I don't want to risk not concluding directly on the first date.

-Is it worth activating tinder plus before leaving? In order to prepare the ground. - On tinder, is it better for me to be direct, making it clear that I want to conclude on the first date?

The rate from what I've read should be around 2000 plus taxi.

Approaching on the street can be useful.[/QUOTE]So first Tinder Gold has a big advance that you can see who likes you, I recommend this gold membership to widen your choice.

About the first date, if you just want to fuck, and you will tell them, they will be expected money from you. Most of them looking for money.

Just go Tinder and see what going on. Put a game there because it is also possible to fuck for free and maybe pay them only 1,000 as a gift, (not including taxi).

About the rate, Nairobi got expensive, 3,000 it is good for a night without a taxi. Do not agree more than that, remember that they maybe got 1000 for a day, even less.

Read my report before couple of days ago it will help you the best, it's here.

[QUOTE=Barrett84;2934779]Hello to the community. After several trips to SEA, it's time for Africa.

I'm 40 years old and I'm of decent appearance, I speak English well.

3 week trip, between Nairobi and Mombasa (Malindi location).

It will be a solo trip where I hope to be in sweet company almost every night. GFE experiences with girls next door. From what I've read, tinder / badoo should work, but I don't want to risk not concluding directly on the first date.

-Is it worth activating tinder plus before leaving? In order to prepare the ground. - On tinder, is it better for me to be direct, making it clear that I want to conclude on the first date?

The rate from what I've read should be around 2000 plus taxi.

Approaching on the street can be useful.[/QUOTE]DM me, I know a good girl.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2933268]I am going to Nairobi and Kisumu in less than a month.

I understand that many guys are over paying the girls, and sending money on the internet for GF that are fucking other guys. I read this and I make a mental check that I should pay this advice some heed.

For the record, most of the men here (including myself) are not faithful, so I put little importance in this feature of the girls whom we have sex with. I do not care if they pretend to be my GF while quietly fucking one, two or more other men on the side. I have even sent money to girls who have boyfriends. I do this to keep the relationship going (primarily to keep the easy access to sex)..[/QUOTE]DM me, I know a good girl.


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[QUOTE=Mombie75;2934891]Why Malindi, it has been closed for years.

Be direct, they are only interested in money not you.[/QUOTE]I am in contact with people who live there, all hotels accept reservations. Yours seems like fake news.

Translated from another language.

Mad Max-style moped gangs are making Kenya's capital Nairobi unsafe. They're back in Kenya, the feared gangs of robbers who operate on heavy mopeds and rob everything in their path. Ten years ago, these gangs were already a plague, but in recent months their numbers have increased again with all their ferocity.

An attack by a motorcycle gang seems to have been ripped from the classic film Mad Max, with the legendary Zed Runners prowling the post-apocalyptic landscape.

In Kenya, they appear out of nowhere like a swarm of bees and surround their victims. The drivers stand guard, accelerating, and their passengers are the thieves who relieve bystanders of their phones and handbags.

It takes twenty seconds for the gang to speed away again, leaving the victims wondering what just happened.

Kenya being Kenya, it'll be very easy to get this-.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2933268]Nice body, face, willing to BBBJ, DFK, BBFS, CIM[/QUOTE]But difficult, in a short visit, to find this, except thru luck-.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2933268]how I can find the most GFE girl[/QUOTE]Since it quickly becomes clear that the 'nice girls' are now Semi-pros, and the Semi-Pros have upgraded to hardcore Professionals.

Still possible, just a challenge. Definitely bars and club are right off the list.

Other than using Tinder, (and Badoo if you wish. I don't like it), try Afrointroductions. Steer clear of Tagged. Believe-it-or-not Facebook would be the absolute best to find a true GFE but it takes so much time to sort thru the potentials and then filter out the chaff. That kind of work must start before you travel.

Apart from those, try flirting with shop / restaurant girls. At least you'll know they are mature, less likely to play games, and serious about having fun when they're not working.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2934902]So first Tinder Gold has a big advance that you can see who likes you, I recommend this gold membership to widen your choice.

About the first date, if you just want to fuck, and you will tell them, they will be expected money from you. Most of them looking for money.

Just go Tinder and see what going on. Put a game there because it is also possible to fuck for free and maybe pay them only 1,000 as a gift, (not including taxi).

About the rate, Nairobi got expensive, 3,000 it is good for a night without a taxi. Do not agree more than that, remember that they maybe got 1000 for a day, even less.

Read my report before couple of days ago it will help you the best, it's here.[/QUOTE]Correct. Many of them make less than 1 k a day. A typical teacher's salary is 20 k a month, many work 6 days a week and more than 8 hrs a day. That comes to less than 1 k or less. Many men make less than 10 K a month. Gifting more than a day's salary for a few hrs is already generous and includes the foreigner surcharge. I give 1. 5 k for a few hrs, but I have my own long term Luhya girls. Luo will cost you more, and they usually come with more attitude.

Source?

Thanks for the headsup.

I remember those days. There was a wave, even witnessed one back in 2017.

Sad but true, none of us who know Kenya and the CURRENT corrupt and dysfunctional systems are surprised these are back. "Kazi ni Kazi"!

It's like Kenya is returning to the Moi Era.

[QUOTE=Zimzam;2935367]Translated from another language.

Mad Max-style moped gangs are making Kenya's capital Nairobi unsafe. They're back in Kenya, the feared gangs of robbers who operate on heavy mopeds and rob everything in their path. Ten years ago, these gangs were already a plague, but in recent months their numbers have increased again with all their ferocity.

An attack by a motorcycle gang seems to have been ripped from the classic film Mad Max, with the legendary Zed Runners prowling the post-apocalyptic landscape.

In Kenya, they appear out of nowhere like a swarm of bees and surround their victims. The drivers stand guard, accelerating, and their passengers are the thieves who relieve bystanders of their phones and handbags.

It takes twenty seconds for the gang to speed away again, leaving the victims wondering what just happened.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;2933141]I'll hate to say this not only the women but the citizens of these African countries can't wait to see Mzungus come because they pay ridiculous price for sex. $50 or Euros in Kenya is way too much money to pay for sex based upon the current exchange rate! I saw some guys go to Sierra Leone and pay $70 for sex when the price to fuck a chick is equivalent to. 60 for a local and that's slightly more than half a dollar! I'll be back there in September for 3 weeks I'll give another report after I leave.[/QUOTE]You are totally right. I am in Kampala now, and I had a girl asking 500 k, many 250 k. The ones who look more professional, are the one asking for more money, probably because they already have a number of clients. Problem is some don't get down to 60 k for the night (transport inclusive), which is usually what I pay. Some don't move from 150 k, some are willing for 100 k but not less. A girl asked me 75 USD. Obviously there are always girls who are willing to fuck for 60 k, but some will never do that. They just wait to find the fella who would pay 100 USD to fuck them.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2935825]You are totally right. I am in Kampala now, and I had a girl asking 500 k, many 250 k. The ones who look more professional, are the one asking for more money, probably because they already have a number of clients. Problem is some don't get down to 60 k for the night (transport inclusive), which is usually what I pay. Some don't move from 150 k, some are willing for 100 k but not less. A girl asked me 75 USD. Obviously there are always girls who are willing to fuck for 60 k, but some will never do that. They just wait to find the fella who would pay 100 USD to fuck them.[/QUOTE]It all depends on how much cash they have when you meet them / contact them. If they have something they go high, if they have nothing they will bite at almost any offer. Kenyans only think of today.

The ones who get something regular from a local contact or two or say monthly on worldremit usually price themselves out as they go for the kill with silly 10-20 k requests They will catch one who will pay now and again.

I found one article. In the second part it says this kind of robbery can happen anywhere: Kilimani, Karen, Thika Road, etc. Sometimes they kill just to get a phone. So what's the consequence. Not visiting Kenya, just take more care? I don't know.

[URL]https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/nairobi/nairobi-under-siege-as-armed-motorbike-gangs-return--4575972[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2935588]Source?
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[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2938574]It's almost a month.

We'll be waiting eagerly for your on-the-ground detailed Report. BTW have you ever made one before?

Better make one! Otherwise you'll be called out like JonesLover.[/QUOTE]It got postponed until 25 September.

I do not know who JonesLover is, nor why I should care if you compared me to him.

I am happy to share information here, but I know almost nothing about Kenya. I am not a porn writer, I simply share information. I have left many reports about my experiences elsewhere (Dominican Republic, Brazil, Peru). PM me if you are going to one of these countries.

I just spent 4 months in south east asia from November to March, so I am familiar with what it is like to travel for long durations.

I was wondering if you think 2 months in Kenya would be too long? The reason for the 2 months is I want to take my time and meet girls, I also like to wait a couple of days to recharge after meeting them. My idea is to just take my time and not rush anything, get settled in, find an apartment or good hotel.

Just wondering if you think I would be crazy to stay 2 months in Kenya, or should I be OK?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Edward5;2940415]I just spent 4 months in south east asia from November to March, so I am familiar with what it is like to travel for long durations.

I was wondering if you think 2 months in Kenya would be too long? The reason for the 2 months is I want to take my time and meet girls, I also like to wait a couple of days to recharge after meeting them. My idea is to just take my time and not rush anything, get settled in, find an apartment or good hotel.

Just wondering if you think I would be crazy to stay 2 months in Kenya, or should I be OK?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]My first trip to Kenya turned into 5 months in 2021, it was great. But I do work online. It was fine and taking it slow worked for me. Arriving again tomorrow.

There's news that aviation workers throughout Kenya, and most particularly JKIA airport, will go on strike beginning September 1. Their plan is to paralyze airport operations. Has anyone heard any updated news about this?

[QUOTE=Edward5;2940415]
I was wondering if you think 2 months in Kenya would be too long? The reason for the 2 months is I want to take my time and meet girls,
[/QUOTE]For me, 2 months in Nairobi would be too boring. However, for a first timer, you should consider to go to safari (s) from Nairobi. Easy to find girl to accompany.

I have been to in saltlicksafarilodge dot com (Super Hyper Dooper!) and in Ol Pejeta Conservancy (especially because of the rhinos).

You can go by train to Salt Lick, and by mutatu (minibus) to Ol Pejeta (close to Nanyuki). Was fun to organize it myself.

From NBO use train or flight to go to the coast. Hit Big Tree in Mombasa, for an easy pick up.

I recommend good appartment instead of hotel. Cheaper, and no hassle with guests. Just some Shilling to the Security.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2940939]For me, 2 months in Nairobi would be too boring. However, for a first timer, you should consider to go to safari (s) from Nairobi. Easy to find girl to accompany.

I have been to in saltlicksafarilodge dot com (Super Hyper Dooper!) and in Ol Pejeta Conservancy (especially because of the rhinos).

You can go by train to Salt Lick, and by mutatu (minibus) to Ol Pejeta (close to Nanyuki). Was fun to organize it myself.

From NBO use train or flight to go to the coast. Hit Big Tree in Mombasa, for an easy pick up.

I recommend good appartment instead of hotel. Cheaper, and no hassle with guests. Just some Shilling to the Security.[/QUOTE]For those of us like me who aren't into safari activities, a quick flight to Mombasa for the warm balmy weather and the beach is just the ticket. And in Mombasa, there's more pussy than you can shake a stick at. 😊.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2940939]For me, 2 months in Nairobi would be too boring. However, for a first timer, you should consider to go to safari (s) from Nairobi. Easy to find girl to accompany.

I have been to in saltlicksafarilodge dot com (Super Hyper Dooper!) and in Ol Pejeta Conservancy (especially because of the rhinos).

You can go by train to Salt Lick, and by mutatu (minibus) to Ol Pejeta (close to Nanyuki). Was fun to organize it myself.

From NBO use train or flight to go to the coast. Hit Big Tree in Mombasa, for an easy pick up.

I recommend good appartment instead of hotel. Cheaper, and no hassle with guests. Just some Shilling to the Security.[/QUOTE]Me also, 2 months in Nairobi would be boring. It is good for drinking and going to safari, but that is all.

Maybe take safari to Masai Mara for 4-5 days, then you see all possible animals except rhinos. I did that and liked a lot, but after that I did not have desire to go safari anymore. Except gorilla safari in Uganda or Rwanda, that I would like to do again, that was something really different.

So after safari, or already before that, enjoy Nairobi nightlife and Nairobi girls until you get bored. Then travel to Mombasa and stay there rest of the time.

Bytheway, my trip to Masai Mara, it was expensive, those long safaris are expensive. I took a girl with me, so double the prize. However going by car whole day in safari, I was always so exhausted, I was just sleeping all nights, no strenght to do sex. Also our lodging was quite primitive, and separate beds. So that money for the company for safari was wasted.

I agree as the posters below state. As you will likely fly into Nbi stay there, after a week hit Msa and then you can compare for the rest of your trip.

A higher quality of girl in Nbi but a lot easier to get girls in Msa and Msa is more user friendly for everything.

Airbnb the way to go these days in both Msa and Nbi. Dating apps good too.

If you want an on the beach hotel in Msa or a safari at a fair price let me know.

I'm in Msa ATM for another week, it is fairly quiet at present but badoo has me occupied.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2941057]I agree as the posters below state. As you will likely fly into Nbi stay there, after a week hit Msa and then you can compare for the rest of your trip.

A higher quality of girl in Nbi but a lot easier to get girls in Msa and Msa is more user friendly for everything.

Airbnb the way to go these days in both Msa and Nbi. Dating apps good too.

If you want an on the beach hotel in Msa or a safari at a fair price let me know.

I'm in Msa ATM for another week, it is fairly quiet at present but badoo has me occupied.[/QUOTE]I regularly stay at the Severin Sea Lodge in Mombasa. It's not cheap, but very nice and reasonable for the quality of the accommodations. I've never had any problems bringing my ladies.

I was in Kenya in March 2024. Nairobi is a good start in Kenya and hotels as well AirBnB are easy to fiond and it is easy to be authorized to wellcome a girl. I was in the Best Western Meridian Hotel in CBD, at walking distance from clubs (Liddo's, Sabina Joy). Massage parlors are not far from there too. And I discovered a well known club among kenyans: Club 207 Lounge (ask to your taxi) about 20 min drive from this hotel. Very good brothel. I was 4 times there and I asked a girl to come to my hotel: OK and without any barfine.

In Mombasa, I think the best place is the neighbors of Mombasa: Bamburi. A lot of good hotels along the shore and girlfriendly. The highest level is Severin Sea Lodge with 2 pools, 2 restaurants, a diving club and a tourist office to organize safaris in Tsavo East. Personally I prefer Cowrie Shell Beach Apartment, with appartments much less expensive than Severin Sea Lodge. But you need taxis to go to bars like Big Tree, Casaurina, club Screenshot Lounge (not before 10:00 PM).

[QUOTE=Club88;2941288]I was in Kenya in March 2024. Nairobi is a good start in Kenya and hotels as well AirBnB are easy to fiond and it is easy to be authorized to wellcome a girl. I was in the Best Western Meridian Hotel in CBD, at walking distance from clubs (Liddo's, Sabina Joy). Massage parlors are not far from there too. And I discovered a well known club among kenyans: Club 207 Lounge (ask to your taxi) about 20 min drive from this hotel. Very good brothel. I was 4 times there and I asked a girl to come to my hotel: OK and without any barfine.

In Mombasa, I think the best place is the neighbors of Mombasa: Bamburi. A lot of good hotels along the shore and girlfriendly. The highest level is Severin Sea Lodge with 2 pools, 2 restaurants, a diving club and a tourist office to organize safaris in Tsavo East. Personally I prefer Cowrie Shell Beach Apartment, with appartments much less expensive than Severin Sea Lodge. But you need taxis to go to bars like Big Tree, Casaurina, club Screenshot Lounge (not before 10:00 PM).[/QUOTE]Just to avoid confusion. There is place called Bamburi, Bamburi community. Lot of people, but not a place to go for beginners at least. Then there is Bamburi beach, and this is the place where beginners should go, rent a hotel from the Bamburi beach. Bamburi community and beach are not so far from each others, but very different place anyway.

Getting broken in on Africa after being a spoilt asia traveler for years. Like previously posted, Club 207 Lounge was good to me. The place is in the bolt app so it's easy to get to and back. I went there way to early so the girls was spread out all over the place. They gathered me up for a lineup in a room, they had so many that I lost count, tall, short, dark, light, a small one that could rival an asian spinner, fat, thin, one with an arabic touch etc. Most of them looked good too. The girl recomended going after sundown as the bikinis come out then.

[QUOTE=Gorgon;2941686]Club 207 Lounge was good to me. The place is in the bolt app so it's easy to get to and back. I went there way to early so the girls was spread out all over the place.[/QUOTE]I do not know what too early is since they are open 24 hours and the girls live on site for 2 weeks at a time. When I went it was just like a club. There was no lineup. If you wanted a girl then you just went up and talked to her or called her over to you.

I did not know Bolt was there. I was using Uber. Hope I did not rip myself off.

It seems obligatory to visit sabina joy so I got it done. Visisted around 15:00 ish, most patrons were sitting alone drinking at tables. Not many girls there, some dubious ones in hoodies in the back, at the first bar was one in heals, a nice dress, nice hair and a fit look. She barely knew the process too it seems, you pay for the room first at one station, you decline the "mandatory condoms" and go up to the room. Nobody cared if the girl had a drink or not. She was fit with a gap and did a mean BBBJ but no CIM. Nobody cared a lick about whitey, the people on the street snickered a bit when I went in.

A good noob intro to CBD. The traffic is murder so my uninformed advice would be to stay in CBD if you want to focus on CBD things?

Hello All,

I am playing around with various itineraries / ideas for a January trip. I would be arriving from Egypt and eventually departing to Bangkok, most likely. I am looking to spend 10-14 days in the region, of which maybe 3 days would be the safari. In short, eyeing a beach / safari / city mix.

Factoring in flights, safari, partying, women, lodging, visa / language / etc.

- Nairobi + Masai Mara + Mombasa.

- Zanzibar + Dar Es Salaam + Uganda Safari or Serengeti.

- Also have looked into Rwanda and heard a bit about South Africa, but trying to maximize my time and not over-do the traveling. Budget is not really a concern but also not looking to rack up and extra $1,000 on flights for an equal experience to doing something similar in another area.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I won't bombard every individual thread, at this point.

Thank you in advance. Cheers.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2942499]I am playing around with various itineraries / ideas for a January trip. I would be arriving from Egypt and eventually departing to Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Don't know if you are planning Kenyan Air, but my flight to Bangkok from Nairobi was about 4 hours late and they never said why.

Nairobi + Masai Mara + Mombasa.

Very easy to organise this out of your options, the obvious choice -.

Fly into NBO, do a few days. Then have a safari and drop down to MSA. Back to NBO and move on to BKK out of there.

As pocket friendly as you want as well, top, middle or bottom ranges all available.

[QUOTE=Leblon;2941379]Just to avoid confusion. There is place called Bamburi, Bamburi community. Lot of people, but not a place to go for beginners at least. Then there is Bamburi beach, and this is the place where beginners should go, rent a hotel from the Bamburi beach. Bamburi community and beach are not so far from each others, but very different place anyway.[/QUOTE]You're absolutely right. Bamburi Beach is a quiet place and corresponds to the entire coastal strip between Shanzu and Nyali. Many hotels and meeting places. Another thing is Bamburi Village where I prefer not to go in the evening to avoid being sliced like a ham.

[QUOTE=LynnMan;2926067]The action covered here was in the first two weeks of June, before the current protests.

Summary of 3 massage places, Pucolin spa and Nokay Spa at 15 Westlands road, opposite Graffins college and Massage girls Ngara, located at City View house unit 711, in Ngara.

Cost of basic massage Ksh 3,000 and extra range Ksh 2,000 to 3,000.

I went to Pucolin on two occasions and got massage from Lynn and Sharon (I had mentioned her on another report October 23).

Location is as posted above, there are two older 4 story apartment buildings once you go past the gate. The massage parlors are located to the Left side building.

You go up a flight of stairs and Pucolin is to the left while Nokay is to the right. At Pucolin, lady at the door asked if I wanted a specific girl or get the line up, I opted for the line up. There were 6 girls, 3 stunners and 3 so so lookwise.

I selected Lynn, aged 24 her looks reminded me of Venus Williams the tennis star, cornrows and dark muscular complex. She came to the room, and asked what I wanted. I replied basic massage.

I think it was Swedish massage. I also told her I wanted extra, she right away said that there is no sex at this business. I was firm on what I wanted and was ready to walk out or get another girl. I explained that I had FS from a girl here in the past. She was willing to work with me, she said the extra was 2 k. And extra range from HJ, boob-job, CBJ and FS..[/QUOTE]Thank for this report. I have a Kenyan wife so massage parlours are an easy way for me to get a little fun. I find in Lavington it's 3.5 k for massage and anywhere between 1.5 k and 2.5 k for happy ending with touching. The one time I paid 2.5 k I made a mistake of not clearing the price first and we had to haggle after the event. It's so easy to get numbers from the girls and start to get more extras or private meets.

[QUOTE=Oiste;2943234]You're absolutely right. Bamburi Beach is a quiet place and corresponds to the entire coastal strip between Shanzu and Nyali. Many hotels and meeting places. Another thing is Bamburi Village where I prefer not to go in the evening to avoid being sliced like a ham.[/QUOTE]I have not heard of any problems in Bamburi of people getting sliced. Do you know any different?

There are a lot of Airbnb apartments in this area as well.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2943332]I have not heard of any problems in Bamburi of people getting sliced. Do you know any different?

There are a lot of Airbnb apartments in this area as well.[/QUOTE]A friend of mine has been the victim of an attempt to steal the phone in broad daylight near Naivas. Several people I know don't speak very well of Bamburri, and in fact not many foreigners live there. I don't want to be a catastrophe, let's be clear, but Bamburri is really much more insecure than other places in Mombasa.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2942666]Don't know if you are planning Kenyan Air, but my flight to Bangkok from Nairobi was about 4 hours late and they never said why.[/QUOTE]What is the process like returning to BKK from NBO? Kenya is listed as a country from which Thailand requires passengers to have an International Health Certificate for Yellow Fever Vaccination. Have you been asked to present proof of yellow fever vaccination returning home to BKK? Any other issues? Wondering if there are new requires now that the WHO has listed monkeypox as a public health emergency.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2944062]What is the process like returning to BKK from NBO? Kenya is listed as a country from which Thailand requires passengers to have an International Health Certificate for Yellow Fever Vaccination. Have you been asked to present proof of yellow fever vaccination returning home to BKK? Any other issues? Wondering if there are new requires now that the WHO has listed monkeypox as a public health emergency.[/QUOTE]As far as I am aware you only need YF cert if you are over 65 years of age to enter Thailand from Kenya.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2944062]What is the process like returning to BKK from NBO? Kenya is listed as a country from which Thailand requires passengers to have an International Health Certificate for Yellow Fever Vaccination. Have you been asked to present proof of yellow fever vaccination returning home to BKK? Any other issues? Wondering if there are new requires now that the WHO has listed monkeypox as a public health emergency.[/QUOTE]Now that you mention it, a big line suddenly formed at the gate. I did not hear an announcement. I thought we were getting ready to board. I got in line and waited forever. When an agent finally walked past, I asked her what is going on with boarding. She said the line was actually to show yellow fever documents. Well shit. I did not have mine with me but nobody ever asked me for it. The ones they were asking were younger guys in the front of the line. I think a couple of them were having problems and that was making the long wait. That flight was stopping over in Bangkok, but most of the people on the flight were continuing on to China. Maybe the yellow fever thing was for China. No more than 20 of us got off in Thailand.

I totally agree. Kenya is so easy. I had the best experiences with Tinder. Only 1 girl of est. 100 I had contact with was uneasy and insisted on marriage. All the others were cool with some kind of sponsorship relation. One idea I still have to add: To avoid unwanted discussions or even harassment after an intercourse wear always rubber or if you seek for long time sponsorship get a vasectomy. Many girls come afterwards and tell you that they are pregnant in order to blackmail you and threaten to tell your wife. I had those cases and was happy to be on the safe side.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2924900]I have never worn a wedding ring. But I always tell the girls I am married. There are some girls on Tagged / hi5/ Badoo / Thaifriendly etc for whom this makes difference. But for the 75% who don't care, it makes life easier afterwards. It's easier to shed a girlfriend who wants to get serious and easier to say no to requests for money if you let them know you are married.

Kenya is slightly different than the Dominican Republic, Thailand, Philippines, etc. I have not found a girl in Kenya yet who would not get together with me because of my marital status. It's the easiest country to find a girl for sex of any I have yet been to; so many pretty girls I met there agree to sex without the hassle of courtship or promises of money (although most expect money after the sex is finished). I would be interested to know if anyone disagrees with this statement as I would really (!) like to visit a country even easier than Kenya.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2941057]I agree as the posters below state. As you will likely fly into Nbi stay there, after a week hit Msa and then you can compare for the rest of your trip.

A higher quality of girl in Nbi but a lot easier to get girls in Msa and Msa is more user friendly for everything.

Airbnb the way to go these days in both Msa and Nbi. Dating apps good too.

If you want an on the beach hotel in Msa or a safari at a fair price let me know.

I'm in Msa ATM for another week, it is fairly quiet at present, but badoo has me occupied.[/QUOTE]I didn't stay long enough in Kenya to experience this phenomenon where it's easier to date in Mombasa vs. Nairobi. I'm sure it's true, but for me, it was the same. Not only that, but I was approached by girls outside of Alchemist in Westland, who asked me to be my companion. One of them was especially cute and had a nice outfit. She walked to me, asking me if she could join me and be my companion. When I get approached It's almost always Luo girls, they are the ones with the self-confidence with good English and social skills and usually with better fashion sense. And indeed they were Luo girls. I'm not the hookup type, prefer to screen my girls for HIV and STD and hep ABC and genital herpes before I have sex with them, so I politely excuse myself. Also, I've seen many girls in Brew's Bistros to approach if that's someone's style. However, social media such as Badoo etc. Are super easy.

[QUOTE=HotRokker;2944623]I totally agree. Kenya is so easy. I had the best experiences with Tinder. Only 1 girl of est. 100 I had contact with was uneasy and insisted on marriage. All the others were cool with some kind of sponsorship relation. One idea I still have to add: To avoid unwanted discussions or even harassment after an intercourse wear always rubber or if you seek for long time sponsorship get a vasectomy. Many girls come afterwards and tell you that they are pregnant in order to blackmail you and threaten to tell your wife. I had those cases and was happy to be on the safe side.[/QUOTE]You could also add the P2 or morning-after pill. It's usually 2 pills, depending on the manufacturer. Available without prescription at any Chemist for little money. If she is shy, then you buy if for her. My girls took it. Just make sure it's within 72 hrs.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2948104]You could also add the P2 or morning-after pill. It's usually 2 pills, depending on the manufacturer. Available without prescription at any Chemist for little money. If she is shy, then you buy if for her. My girls took it. Just make sure it's within 72 hrs.[/QUOTE]It is useful to remember that the after moening pill is only 90% effective. In some studies it was even less than that. Also, the earlier the girl takes it, the better.

Are there any hotel recommendations in Nairobi that are affordable and won't cause any problems for my girlfriend?

[QUOTE=Edcota05;2950056]Are there any hotel recommendations in Nairobi that are affordable and won't cause any problems for my girlfriend?[/QUOTE]Airbnb is the way to go.

Hotels just book for two but check with them as well all will be okay.