Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2689590]No. You would be a "simp" (and I hate that word), because of things like:

1. Supporting a woman is a privilege.

2. A woman must earn your monogamy.

3. Paying to move a hooker and her family to another country.

6. Claiming a woman who already has a kid by some loser is the best of the best. She fucked up the most important decision she'll ever make and had to find a sucker to support her, her mistake and apparently her family too.[/QUOTE]You keep trying to make your 7's into 10's. The ex fianc was a petrochemical engineer and model not a WG. A best of the best woman is not going to put up with your seeing four other women and if you had one special one, you would have kept her and blown the others off.

You are paying WGs. I am supporting someone I care about. In the USA, one is virtuous and the other is a crime, and you are calling me names? LOL. You are a five time john, loser.

That comment about her "fucking up" by having a kid is about as tactless as you can get. Who knew Osteo would be the voice of reason? You are actually saying a woman should have had an abortion to win an argument? WTF is wrong with you?

All your really doing is showing what loser hos your women are. You would not know what a 10 woman was if she bit you in the ass.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2689681]You failed to comprehend.[/QUOTE]Yeah, after I responded to your post I thought better of it. Didn't really make sense to read your post out of context like I did.

My prototype for the best of the best kind of chica you can find around here is the young single mother with an only child delivered by Cesarean and with her mom at home.

Kid: Mom is highly motivated to use her wet holes to provide for child.

Cesarean: Outlet tract has not been dilated and stretched, although these Colombian and Venezuelan pussies and assholes snap back like nothing I ever saw in North America.

Mom: Built in child-care.

At this point, we are discussing personal preference, so you may certainly have the last word if you wish.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2689762][B]You are paying WGs. I am supporting someone I care about.[/B] In the USA, one is virtuous and the other is a crime, and you are calling me names? LOL. You are a five time john, loser.

That comment about her "fucking up" by having a kid is about as tactless as you can get. Who knew Osteo would be the voice of reason? You are actually saying a woman should have had an abortion to win an argument? WTF is wrong with you?

All [B]your[/B] really doing is showing what loser hos your women are. [B]You would not know what a 10 woman was if she bit you in the ass.[/B][/QUOTE]WoW. JjBee62 is paying working-girls [B]but not Elvis[/B]. Oh no! He is supporting a working-girl that he cares about. I'm sorry Elvis. There is a universal rule and it applies whether you are a frequent monger or just an occasional one. [B]You don't fall in love with your hooker[/B]. You can like her, you can be in awe of how she makes you feel for those rented moments but come to grips with reality. She loves your wallet and not you. The minute someone comes along and throws more money at her than you can. You're going to wonder how she could disappear after all you've done for her.

You call her a '10'. OK, of course, your rating system is based on your own subjective tastes. Your '10' might easily be my '7' and vice versa. There is no universal standard with regards to beauty. But what makes her so special? Does she have an advanced degree? Does she spend hundreds of hours a year helping people who are less fortunate than herself? What qualities does she have other than you like the way she looks and they way she makes you feel in bed??

I'll summarize it in a way you might be able to understand (if not now, then later). JjBee62, Mr. E and Huacho are finding their pleasures in an economical, rational way. They aren't looking for love in all the wrong places.

You (Elvis) on the other hand are trying to buy love. And you're trying to buy it from a "sugar baby" (to use one of the less pungent descriptions).

Will she still be a 10 when she sprouts a few wrinkles? What about when her boobs start to sag? What about when you get tired of steak and you crave lobster? Or Peking duck? (it feels pretty slimy to compare women to food but that analogy seems to thrill you).

Oh and finally, how is her English? Good? Great? Still learning? Well maybe she can teach you the difference between "your" and "you're".

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2689800]Yeah, after I responded to your post I thought better of it. Didn't really make sense to read your post out of context like I did.

My prototype for the best of the best kind of chica you can find around here is the young single mother with an only child delivered by Cesarean and with her mom at home.

Kid: Mom is highly motivated to use her wet holes to provide for child.

Cesarean: Outlet tract has not been dilated and stretched, although these Colombian and Venezuelan pussies and assholes snap back like nothing I ever saw in North America.

Mom: Built in child-care.

At this point, we are discussing personal preference, so you may certainly have the last word if you wish.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with your personal preference. I could debate either side of with or without kids, if we're talking strictly for compensated coitus. I'll go against the Cesarean, however. The less scars the better. I might feel differently if I has encountered any Tom Petty pussy in Colombia.

If I decided to marry one, with or without a kid would be possible. However, if I was looking for a Sugar Baby, childless is better.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2689762]You keep trying to make your 7's into 10's. The ex fianc was a petrochemical engineer and model not a WG. A best of the best woman is not going to put up with your seeing four other women and if you had one special one, you would have kept her and blown the others off.

You are paying WGs. I am supporting someone I care about. In the USA, one is virtuous and the other is a crime, and you are calling me names? LOL. You are a five time john, loser.

That comment about her "fucking up" by having a kid is about as tactless as you can get. Who knew Osteo would be the voice of reason? You are actually saying a woman should have had an abortion to win an argument? WTF is wrong with you?

All your really doing is showing what loser hos your women are. You would not know what a 10 woman was if she bit you in the ass.[/QUOTE]A petrochemical engineer now? My goodness! Next she'll be a former Miss Universe. It's strange that a petrochemical engineer would give up her career to be a SB, or need someone to not only support her, but pay to relocate her and her family. And she gave up her free ride to fall for (if I remember correctly) a MLM scam? Doesn't seem like she was a very good petrochemical engineer.

I'm paying WGs and you're supporting someone you care about? Is there a difference? I'm paying by the fuck, you're paying by the month. Considering the someone you care about was advertising on SA looking for someone to support her, the only difference is I don't confuse paying for sex with being in love.

I've never tried to turn a 7 into a 10. Rating beauty on a 1-10 scale is for adolescents, particularly if you're discussing anything beyond FFF encounters (find them, fuck them, forget them). As for the women I'm with, my rating system is Boolean, not numerical.

1. Do I want to spend time with her?

2. Did I enjoy spending time with her?

3. Do I want to spend more time with her?

Whether or not other people want to spend time with her isn't part of the process. Why would it be? Do you also worry that other guys won't be impressed by what you eat?

The beauty of my system is my happiness isn't bound to some stranger's opinion. It also has a simple solution. If I'm happy, the loop resets. If I'm not, it breaks the loop. Your system goes on until the girl realizes you aren't paying her enough to put up with you. Then there's the crying, the begging, the name calling, the threats, followed by the pouting.

Who mentioned abortion? Perhaps you haven't heard about the options for preventing pregnancy? There are quite a few, and most are inexpensive and readily available. There's also the free option, "think before you fuck. " Granted, most teenagers don't consider the consequences of their actions.

Here's a bit of wisdom for you. The time to make a decision about an action with potential consequences, is before the action, not after you're facing the consequences.

How am I showing what "loser hos" my women are? First, they're not mine. That whole owning other people thing was outlawed. Second, how does having a job, or attending university make someone a loser? How does making it past 18 without a child they can't support make women losers? Finally, how does not requesting or expecting payment for sex make a woman a ho?

Just for the sake of illustrating your foolishness, let's assume the women I see are "loser hos. " Why are the women I date such a significant factor in your life? They could all be psychopaths or saints and it should have no bearing on your life, yet it does. I only mentioned them to illustrate that your criteria for a "best of the best" girl are not the universal best criteria.

Just to clarify, saying someone fucked up, even if it involves the most important decision in their life, isn't a judgment. Almost everyone fucks up a few important decisions. Most recover from their mistakes and go on to fuck something else up. Are you saying that getting pregnant by someone you called a loser was a wise choice?

I do see WGs. It's clearly stated and agreed upon in advance. Whether they have jobs or children doesn't matter, except as a topic of conversation between the WG and I. If I didn't see WGs I would never have signed on to ISG. If people who see WGs are all losers, why are you here?

As with all of your tantrums, this one was completely unnecessary (but I'm enjoying it). You found a girl. You decided to commit to that girl, without actually committing. You could have simply said "I found my dream girl and I'm no longer looking" and everyone would have toasted your success and wished you luck. Drop mic and exit triumphant.

But that doesn't work for you. You would rather fail and have everyone congratulate you for succeeding, than to succeed without anyone noticing. Instead of making a simple statement (or fading away, as most people would do), you had to claim a success beyond anyone's reach. When nobody erected a statue to commemorate your incredible achievement (finding a girl who was looking for someone to support her, and agreeing to support her, an achievement the equivalent of successfully buying a beer at a bar, correction, the best of the best beer), you went through your normal cycle. First you pleaded for someone to acknowledge you, then you resorted to hyperbole, self-congratulation and ultimately, insults.

Why not just lead with the insults?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2689762]You are paying WGs. I am supporting someone I care about. [/QUOTE]And the difference is minuscule and unclear to many on this board.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2689762]In the USA, one is [s]virtuous[/s] stupid and simp-like and the other is a crime [b]whose 'victim' remains unclear[/b].[/QUOTE]Fixed that for you!

[QUOTE=Villainy;2689950]WoW. JjBee62 is paying working-girls [B]but not Elvis[/B]. Oh no! He is supporting a working-girl that he cares about. I'm sorry Elvis. There is a universal rule and it applies whether you are a frequent monger or just an occasional one. [B]You don't fall in love with your hooker[/B]. You can like her, you can be in awe of how she makes you feel for those rented moments but come to grips with reality. She loves your wallet and not you. The minute someone comes along and throws more money at her than you can. You're going to wonder how she could disappear after all you've done for her.

You call her a '10'. OK, of course, your rating system is based on your own subjective tastes. Your '10' might easily be my '7' and vice versa. There is no universal standard with regards to beauty. But what makes her so special? Does she have an advanced degree? Does she spend hundreds of hours a year helping people who are less fortunate than herself? What qualities does she have other than you like the way she looks and they way she makes you feel in bed??

I'll summarize it in a way you might be able to understand (if not now, then later). JjBee62, Mr. E and Huacho are finding their pleasures in an economical, rational way. They aren't looking for love in all the wrong places.

You (Elvis) on the other hand are trying to buy love. And you're trying to buy it from a "sugar baby" (to use one of the less pungent descriptions)..[/QUOTE]Any reality check for Elvis is going to come back marked "NSF."

I fall in love with every hooker. I get sweaty, my pulse races, I get flushed, all clear signs. But I always remember "if you love something set it free. If it comes back it's yours forever."

Once my pulse returns to normal, I set my love free by peeling off the condom and dropping it in the trash. So far none have returned.

[QUOTE]Just to clarify, saying someone fucked up, even if it involves the most important decision in their life, isn't a judgment. Almost everyone fucks up a few important decisions. [/QUOTE]Yeah but most don't affect your life for 18 to 21 years, unless they involve very serious felonies, let getting pregnant without intending to or getting someone pregnant without intending to. And it's a mistake involving at least three people. Just sayin'.

Had a good weekend here in the USA. I have a friend who periodically messes with high end escorts. He decides to visit and party for a night at my place with two escorts. They wanted 2000 $ a piece USD for a night of all out GFE, Champagne, Tequila, hot tub, and partying fun. We countered 1000 $ a piece, they settled at 1250 a piece. My boy knows the one girl and has partied with her before and confirms she is a good time and shows me pics and in her pics she is a high 8, black chick, very urban but fun attitude. The friend looks just as hot. The girls show up and they are fun and personable and it was a good time. Slightly less hot than the pics. More like solid 7's, but still both pretty. Overall, paid these girls 2500 $ and they hung tight and partied until literally 1:00 in the afternoon the next day, good 12-13 hour session. My boy covered most of it and I m going to have to pay him back, he is a long time good friend of mine, but the whole time I am thinking, this shit would be so much cheaper in Colombia with girls who are solid 8's, not 7's. Of course, I didn't have to travel to another country and catch a flight and a hotel room and deal with the language issues, but anyone who thinks prices are even kinda close is way off. These girls would be getting 300-400 k Pesos in Parque Lleras and in Centro, 60-100 k maybe?, I don't fuck with Centro?

Been following the Elvis debates on how he spends his money. Personally I could never have feelings of love for a girl I am paying to fuck, even a sugar baby type scenario. I am also still banging decent chicks in the states for free once in awhile. Maybe when I hit my late 50's-60's I would be more open to paying a chick for a relationship which involved real love, but as of right now I couldn't do it. My main point is, why do you guys care so much what he does with his money. If that's how the dude wants to run his show, you ain't walking in that man's show, who gives a fuck what he does. I get it, he brags about it a bit much, but cmon we all do that, dudes like to flaunt their shit a bit.

If anyone who has seen the TV show "Modern Family", I would absolutely be thrilled with my life if I got a chick like Sofia Vergara in my 60's whether I am paying her or not LOL. Any man who disagrees with that is either a sex fiend or a liar haha. In all seriousness though, I don't like tell other dudes how to spend their money as long as it ain't fucking the game up for the rest of us. I don't Elvis doing the sugar baby route does anything to fuck with the game.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2690073]Fixed that for you![/QUOTE]LOL. You did not fix shit. What I said was accurate.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2690073]And the difference is minuscule and unclear to many on this board.[/QUOTE]Which says how fucked in the head you guys are.

I am supporting a single mom and her kid. You are paying hos. Sorry, that is the way it is.

That is so you Haucho. If you hang out with a few other guys and agree on something, what is true or legal no longer holds. You imagine yourself to be in this majority but time after time, the real majority of people is disgusted by your actions, and you fucking know it.

If you were not interested in pleasing and high fiving others here, I am actually showing you a way out of your fucked up life, but you are too damaged to see it.

As for wasting your time reading here, what worthwhile things were you going to do: drink yourself to death, get stoned, bang a street walker, or clean your counter tops a tenth time?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2690075]Any reality check for Elvis is going to come back marked "NSF."

I fall in love with every hooker. I get sweaty, my pulse races, I get flushed, all clear signs. But I always remember "if you love something set it free. If it comes back it's yours forever."

Once my pulse returns to normal, I set my love free by peeling off the condom and dropping it in the trash. So far none have returned.[/QUOTE]Happens to me a lot. I can tell it's lust and not love because as soon as I get my rocks off I start thinking exit strategy, hers or mine, depending on the setting. If I can still look at her after sex and not feel an immediate need to scale a barbed-wire fence to get away, then I call that falling in-like. Those can be some fun chicas to hang out with and have more than one sexual encounter per session.

Love takes it to the next level but I am not trying to be monogamous or exclude other chicas, at this time. Plus, I don't know what love is.

Fortunately, my Numero Uno Novia Catgirl feels the same way, the main difference is she likes girls as much as guys. We are crossing a milestone. Up until now, she's been in charge of the girls brought into our relationship, her girlfriends, for trios, which was still a good thing so I was more than happy to go along for the ride.

But I have known several girls in MDE for over two years now, and they all know about Catgirl, and they would all do a three-way with us if I asked, and probably five of them really want to do a trio with Catgirl and I.

Recently I sent a couple of TikTok videos of a really cute girl I have known for over two years to Catgirl and she agreed to the three-way on my next visit, so now I got that going for me.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2690062]A petrochemical engineer now? My goodness![/QUOTE]Obviously, you were clueless about what was going on in Venezuela.

What you do not get about her though is that she was the best looking woman I saw in Peru. Your comment about her and my current gal, "you are the best she is going to get" did not hold true with the Venezuelan. I knew she could get better than me and she has. Somebody paid for her to have $20,0000 in plastic surgery. When you have a real 10, other guys line up with wallets in hand, and the current gal is more striking than the Venezuelan.

The concept that it is a privilege to pay for her is not an exaggeration when you know that there is a line of guys out the door who would pay even more. That you do not get that tells me you have not had a 10. Hell, you do not know what one is.

And your bragging is just your undoing again. You have five women you pay? I had more women than that and gave them all up because this one was better than all of them. Why don't you do the same? Because you do not have a 10, you have a bunch of 7's.

And I had to read Villany's dumb comments because I had not logged in and he said, "You do not fall in love with your WG." No, dummy, a guy should take his feelings out of the mix and listen to others. Your moronic method excludes that a woman might actually care about more than money.

And if a ho is someone who takes money for the expectation of sex, that is going to be almost any Colombian woman with an American man with a decent salary or wealth. A woman can be a ho and just see one guy. A pro is someone who sees multiple guys. Your phrasing should be "do not fall in love with a pro".

And again, your comments reveal you to be a loser. If you fell for a Colombian woman, and you have asymmetrical income and wealth, and you want to spend time together, it is natural that you would supplement her. That you have never had such a dilemma tells me about the women you are seeing and your crusty old ass. Who could fall for a curmudgeon like you?

Your and you're? Really? WTF is wrong with you?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2690062]Why not just lead with the insults?[/QUOTE]I do not have to. You guys keep making yourselves look badly.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2690062]The beauty of my system is my happiness isn't bound to some stranger's opinion. It also has a simple solution.[/QUOTE]And this is what I mean. You have no clue what a 10 is. You just said it. You have no clue about the market value of a girl. None.

I repeat, it is a privilege to pay for the one who has a line of guys out the door. It is stupid to do that if a woman does not have other suitors. That is basic price and demand.

If you do not know what other offers the women is getting, she is not going to be happy with you if you do not at least match it. You have a sound strategy for bagging 5's and 7's at best.

And market value is true not just of hos but of virgins. I had an Arab friend whose family met with another. My friend told his dad that he would like to date the daughter, who was probably a virgin, in the other family. He told me she looked like Geena Davis. His father shook his head and said, "No, son, you do not have the money."

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2690062]Considering the someone you care about was advertising on SA looking for someone to support her.[/QUOTE]LOL. Professor Shit for Brains strikes again. Have you ever used it and been on a date? Mr. E said that the same women were on Colombian Cupid and SA, and he never did either.

So none of you dummies have ever even been on a date from SA but you know all about it? The SA women are the same as the ones in El Centro and on Colombia Cupid?

Sure maybe some are, but you get every type on the site and you have no clue why the women are there. The best women I met from the site were told it was a good place to meet quality men by their friends, and they had no idea what an arrangement was.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2690062]Instead of making a simple statement, you had to claim a success beyond anyone's reach.[/QUOTE]It is really not beyond anyone's reach. You guys are just satisfied with mediocrity. The pathetic part is all the lame excuses you all make.

The SA is just one thing. I say I met a 10 off of a SA, and you guys are like, "I know all about SA, and that means she is a ho. " I then ask if you have ever used it yourself. You say no and there is this litany of bullshit that you think of as expertise, and that is just one example.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2689706]I'm surprised. I figured you would be off licking your wounds for another week. Did you just get a testosterone booster and started feeling macho again? You're right about one thing. Most of the working girls will take all the gringo boyfriends they can get. However, as usual, you assume your experiences are the same as mine.[/QUOTE]Wow, I missed this.

Normally, I would delight at seeing you and a fellow douche during a breakup, but Paulie was at a different level of crazy then you.

You parroted the MSNBC douche talking point that jobs return but lives never do. Well, there has been one million deaths in the USA, and any notion that public health officials knew what they were doing should be vanquished, but I doubt you feel that way. I said by eliminating jobs these public health nuts were destroying the economy for certain without any proven benefit with Covid, and a recent government study showed that the states that locked down the least hard did best by their citizens.

Of course, the $6 trillion Covid bill was deferred, put on credit to be paid another time, and that time is now. The bill is being paid via inflation, and everyone is taking a 10 to 15% haircut on the cash they have in their wallets. This is the government way, deaths by millions of cuts versus one big one.

While Paulie thinks is that arguing about a hooker board is about winning via popularity here, I would say for me it is instructive. I see how people have so bought the false narrative and go against it. To wit, Paulie was locking himself up in his mommy's basement was Covid was raging. You defended him doing so. I was out in Mexico and Colombia scoring women like never before staying in hotels at dirt cheap prices, flying for next to nothing, and having a ball in empty amusement parks. Let me ask you one question now: was Colombia right to have instituted a travel ban, JJBee? If you say they were, you are as hopeless as Paulie.

And there is no way I would have met the gal I did if not for Covid.

And do you think I am sitting on assets now, looking at them as they go down and saying "Oh, the Fed knows what they are doing. I am sure everything will be fine" or am I cashing in on the decline? Paulie thinks winning is being more popular on the forum. To me, there is huge gains to be made in going against a popular but wrong narrative. I see winning as having a ton of cash and the best looking women having the best sex.

Paulie is so stupid he does not get how to win the game. Do you?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2690153]clean your counter tops a tenth time?[/QUOTE]This dude comes up with some really strange stuff. Counter tops?

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2690148]My main point is, why do you guys care so much what he does with his money. If that's how the dude wants to run his show, you ain't walking in that man's show, who gives a fuck what he does.[/QUOTE]I do not think anyone cares what he does with his money. It is the fact that he comes here and says nobody else can find a chick to pay like the one he pays. It is also that he refuses to attribute the fact that she is with him to him spending all this money.

And for all we know this could be the ugliest laziest woman in the world to anyone else, but because she does it for him she is the greatest thing since sliced bread and everyone else should be jealous and up their game to get one just like her.

Trying to sell the idea of this chick here is like trying to sell pussy to a punk. Not interested! But he wants to force everyone to be interested in something they do not want.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2690551]This dude comes up with some really strange stuff. Counter tops?[/QUOTE]LOL. You bragged about your Covid cleaning. You mean you have stopped now?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2690191]Mr. E said that the same women were on Colombian Cupid and SA, and he never did either.[/QUOTE]Colombian Cupid no. But I have been on Latin American Cupid meeting chicks in Colombia for 17 years. And the very first Colombian chick I met on there was a childless lawyer that I did not have to support. She took the bus 14 hours from Cucuta to meet me in Bogota. I did not speak Spanish back then and she did not speak English.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691152]LOL. You bragged about your Covid cleaning. You mean you have stopped now?[/QUOTE]I had forgotten all about that but that stopped after I got vaxxed. I do use a lot of bleach spray though.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2690148]Had a good weekend here in the USA. I have a friend who periodically messes with high end escorts. He decides to visit and party for a night at my place with two escorts. They wanted 2000 $ a piece USD for a night of all out GFE, We countered 1000 $ a piece, they settled at 1250 a piece. , but the whole time I am thinking, this shit would be so much cheaper in Colombia with girls who are solid 8's, not 7's. Of course, I didn't have to travel to another country and catch a flight and a hotel room and deal with the language issues, but anyone who thinks prices are even kinda close is way off. These girls would be getting 300-400 k Pesos in Parque Lleras[/QUOTE]What makes these chicks high end besides the fact they say they are and they want to charge $2000? Were they high end the first day they started fucking, or did they not get to be high end until they had been around the block a few times and earned enough to buy a fancy purse and fake hair?

You could have found the same type chicks for free, for $100, or for $5,000. For that reason I do not think it is saying much trying to compare prices of some random chicks your buddy chose for who knows what reason. You could just as well talk about the free chicks you and you buddy hooked up with from local facebook groups, as me and my buddies do in our group chat.

We also need to figure if someone is traveling to another country solely to get their dick wet or if they want to get away for R&R. Personally, I would much rather jump on a plane for $300 or $400 to some place I like for a few days, pay $50 per day for a room, and hang out with and fuck several local GFE chicks from $20 to $100, than simply pay $1250 to be with 1 chick where I live for 1 night. But that is just me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2691156]Colombian Cupid no. But I have been on Latin American Cupid meeting chicks in Colombia for 17 years. And the very first Colombian chick I met on there was a childless lawyer that I did not have to support. She took the bus 14 hours from Cucuta to meet me in Bogota. I did not speak Spanish back then and she did not speak English.[/QUOTE]Damn dude, you should've just bought her a plane ticket. Damn 14 h shit! Need to find me a chic that'll do that for me. LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2691395]What makes these chicks high end besides the fact they say they are and they want to charge $2000? Were they high end the first day they started fucking, or did they not get to be high end until they had been around the block a few times and earned enough to buy a fancy purse and fake hair?

You could have found the same type chicks for free, for $100, or for $5,000. For that reason I do not think it is saying much trying to compare prices of some random chicks your buddy chose for who knows what reason. You could just as well talk about the free chicks you and you buddy hooked up with from local facebook groups, as me and my buddies do in our group chat.

We also need to figure if someone is traveling to another country solely to get their dick wet or if they want to get away for R&R. Personally, I would much rather jump on a plane for $300 or $400 to some place I like for a few days, pay $50 per day for a room, and hang out with and fuck several local GFE chicks from $20 to $100, than simply pay $1250 to be with 1 chick where I live for 1 night. But that is just me.[/QUOTE]Why pay $1250, even if that's the best possible deal available, for all night GFE? They're getting paid to drink and party, and spending maybe 45 minutes actually doing what they get paid for. Why compare them to Parque Lleras girls? In what fantasy world are Parque Lleras girls doing all night GFE from 300-400 k? If you find a desperate one after the bars close, you might get her to agree to 400 K, but chances are slim you're getting either all out GFE or all night. I have no problem paying to eat, drink and party, but not at 2-3 times over the going rate.

The time to complain about the price of something is before the deal, not the next day.

[QUOTE=FlashShaker;2691399]Damn dude, you should've just bought her a plane ticket. Damn 14 h shit! Need to find me a chic that'll do that for me. LOL.[/QUOTE]It only takes 1 time to learn the hard way. I think it was 2 years ago I bought a chick a ticket from Barranquilla to Bogota. She missed the flight and did not even have money to get home from the airport. She has not talked to me since as if it was my fault I wasted how much ever money it was. Freaking sad. How are you in a city that you grew up in yet know nobody that can come to the airport to pick you up or meet you at your house to pay a taxi? Chicks are a little more careful when they have skin in the game and have invested money and time of their own.

A brother in the Rio thread bought a chick a ticket for the 45 minute flight from Sao Paulo to Rio and she missed the flight. Only thing he had other stuff set up for them upon her arrival. So with him having prepaid for all of that, he said he lost about $800 because well it was not her money so what did she care if she was late.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2690148]They wanted 2000 $ a piece USD for a night of all out GFE, Champagne, Tequila, hot tub, and partying fun. We countered 1000 $ a piece, they settled at 1250 a piece.[/QUOTE]LOL. And now you are going through what I am. You pay a decent price for USA pussy and everyone on this forum says you overpaid. What I have learned the guys do on the Medellin forum is compare their 5's and 6's to 9's and 10's and say you are wasting your money.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2690148]Personally I could never have feelings of love for a girl I am paying to fuck, even a sugar baby type scenario.[/QUOTE]Yeah, paying her to fuck never happened. I gave her no cash the first six months or so we we were together. She told me she had a job offer that paid $500 a month and she would see me less often if she took it. I covered that amount so I could see her more often.

I pay the rent on her place, but I would have to be for a hotel if I did not get the place.

My friends saw my gal's pics and called her a 10. I think she would be fetching $2000 a night easy in NYC if she went that route, but she never would.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2690148]If that's how the dude wants to run his show, you ain't walking in that man's show, who gives a fuck what he does. I get it, he brags about it a bit much, but cmon we all do that, dudes like to flaunt their shit a bit. If anyone who has seen the TV show "Modern Family", I would absolutely be thrilled with my life if I got a chick like Sofia Vergara in my 60's whether I am paying her or not LOL.[/QUOTE]Sofia Vergara is five foot seven, 140 lbs. Her measurements are 38-28-39. My gal is five feet 10,125 lbs. Measurements are around 34-24-37, and she worked from age 13 to the day she got pregnant as a model. I am biased, but I think my girl is prettier than SV.

Thing with these dummies is they keep trying to throw out these rules based on the centro chick low lifes and do not get that their rules will not work to get a gal like the one I have.

If you are honest about pricing with the fools on this forum, you get slaughtered. JJBee's comments about $200 hos in the USA said it all. He said he can get good looking women for $200 and did not one list one link to any woman.

Mr. E really thinks his average looking women are as good as the ones you paid four figures for, and JJBee knows he could get the same quality women as you got for half what you paid.

I was trying to tell them how to fish for what I got, and all these bullshit artists insist what they have is as good as what I do and that I am overpaying for a ho.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691518]LOL. And now you are going through what I am. You pay a decent price for USA pussy and everyone on this forum says you overpaid. What I have learned the guys do on the Medellin forum is compare their 5's and 6's to 9's and 10's and say you are wasting your money.[/QUOTE]A decent price for pussy, anywhere in the world, is however much the buyer is comfortable paying. Regardless of how hard you try to insist that every woman you're with is a 10 and every woman anyone else has ever been with is a 5-7, it's all just bullshit. You haven't learned shit, because you're not seeing who everyone is fucking and more importantly you're not seeing the girls from the other person's eyes.

[QUOTE]Yeah, paying her to fuck never happened. I gave her no cash the first six months or so we we were together. She told me she had a job offer that paid $500 a month and she would see me less often if she took it. I covered that amount so I could see her more often.

I pay the rent on her place, but I would have to be for a hotel if I did not get the place.[/QUOTE]You sure about that? It would appear, within about 3 weeks you'll have been with her for 2 years. At the rate your clock is moving you'll have been with her for 8 years by July.

I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not. Hotels rent rooms by the night. You don't have to pay for the month, if you're only staying 5 days.

[QUOTE]My friends saw my gal's pics and called her a 10. I think she would be fetching $2000 a night easy in NYC if she went that route, but she never would.

Sofia Vergara is five foot seven, 140 lbs. Her measurements are 38-28-39. My gal is five feet 10,125 lbs. Measurements are around 34-24-37, and she worked from age 13 to the day she got pregnant as a model. I am biased, but I think my girl is prettier than SV.[/QUOTE]My friends saw my gals pics and said she was a 12.

It doesn't matter what your friends say, or what my friends say, when you or I are the ones saying what they are saying. However, almost everyone is comfortable with their own opinion and they don't need to bring in imaginary support. Literally nobody except you does that.

[QUOTE]Thing with these dummies is they keep trying to throw out these rules based on the centro chick low lifes and do not get that their rules will not work to get a gal like the one I have.

If you are honest about pricing with the fools on this forum, you get slaughtered. JJBee's comments about $200 hos in the USA said it all. He said he can get good looking women for $200 and did not one list one link to any woman.[/QUOTE]You said your girl was a 10 and didn't post a single picture. That says it all.

Why would I post links to girls who are local for me? I'm not getting paid to get them exposure and it's not going to be much use to someone in Philadelphia.

[QUOTE]Mr. E really thinks his average looking women are as good as the ones you paid four figures for, and JJBee knows he could get the same quality women as you got for half what you paid.[/QUOTE]You still don't get it and never will. Nobody, especially me, gives a fuck about the quality of women anyone else is getting and almost nobody gives a shit about how much they paid. What you say is the best sex ever might just be average to someone else. And no matter what the woman looks like there are plenty of guys who wouldn't fuck her for free, and there are guys who would pay top dollar for women who you wouldn't look at. Everyone has their own standards. You're the only person insisting everyone use your standards, without providing a single example of what your standards are.

The last time I checked, the only people who feel the experience when I fuck, are me and whoever I'm fucking. And so far I've never asked someone else to pay for my hookers. Until you can feel it when I'm getting laid, or until you're paying for it, it shouldn't matter. But for some unknown reason it does and always will.

[QUOTE]I was trying to tell them how to fish for what I got, and all these bullshit artists insist what they have is as good as what I do and that I am overpaying for a ho.[/QUOTE]No and no.

No you weren't trying to teach anyone how to fish. You were doing what you've always done, claiming to have caught the best fish ever and tell everyone they will never equal your accomplishments.

Nobody has insisted what they have is as good as what you have, because nobody knows what you have and you have a long history of making shit up. What everyone has told you is they don't want what you have and they're happy with what they are getting.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2691395]What makes these chicks high end besides the fact they say they are and they want to charge $2000? Were they high end the first day they started fucking, or did they not get to be high end until they had been around the block a few times and earned enough to buy a fancy purse and fake hair?

You could have found the same type chicks for free, for $100, or for $5,000. For that reason I do not think it is saying much trying to compare prices of some random chicks your buddy chose for who knows what reason. You could just as well talk about the free chicks you and you buddy hooked up with from local facebook groups, as me and my buddies do in our group chat.

We also need to figure if someone is traveling to another country solely to get their dick wet or if they want to get away for R&R. Personally, I would much rather jump on a plane for $300 or $400 to some place I like for a few days, pay $50 per day for a room, and hang out with and fuck several local GFE chicks from $20 to $100, than simply pay $1250 to be with 1 chick where I live for 1 night. But that is just me.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say they were super high end in looks and personality, but they were the exact type of chicks me and my boy wanted. Clean, young, pretty, and pretty much did what ever we wanted all night, dancing, hot tub, partying, chillen naked, etc. Like I said they were solid 7's and they hung tight until I had to kick them out the next afternoon LOL. They know my boy gave them a good deal. The thing about this night was much more about meeting up with a long time good friend and making the most of the night to our style of partying when we see each other. The girls were solid 7's and I have fucked plenty of girls in my day on or above their level. I am getting older and its unlikely me and my boy are going to roll up to the club and just pull two girls like these and party all night with them and they treat us like kings. Trust me, I am not about the lifestyle of paying 1250 for all night GFE, but my boy is a very successful Wallstreet type guy, he owns his own finance company, and he was covering the cost for the night. Its def not my style in the USA as I have said before. He's married, so flying off for the weekend to Medellin isn't so easy for him.

I agree 1000% with you. If its just about fucking for myself and not meeting up with an old friend and I have the time, all fucking day long would I choose a long weekend in Medellin over paying these girls 1250 a piece.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2691417]Why pay $1250, even if that's the best possible deal available, for all night GFE? They're getting paid to drink and party, and spending maybe 45 minutes actually doing what they get paid for. Why compare them to Parque Lleras girls? In what fantasy world are Parque Lleras girls doing all night GFE from 300-400 k? If you find a desperate one after the bars close, you might get her to agree to 400 K, but chances are slim you're getting either all out GFE or all night. I have no problem paying to eat, drink and party, but not at 2-3 times over the going rate.

The time to complain about the price of something is before the deal, not the next day.[/QUOTE]Nah, these chicks spent much more time than 45 minutes doing what they were supposed to do. I don't like to get into too dirty of details, but they did everything we wanted with enthusiasm and they were compensated quite fairly. As I have said for the millionth time now, its not my style to spend money like that, but these chicks def earned their doe and did not pull any shady shit.

Almost every time I take a chick out of Parque Lleras I get all night GFE, usually I kick them out and head out for rounds 2 or 3 late night at Faizon though. I also don't agree on prices or time until after I have chilled with a chick for awhile dancing or drinking and usually end up making out with them before we come to an agreement. I have paid anywhere from 250 k to 150 USD for a chick out of Gusto, Gusto chick was not all night, but she would have done all night for 200 USD. I was in Medellin for 10 days over summer and for a long weekend in the fall. I have been to Medellin several times pre pandemic as well. Those are the prices I paid and yes I get all night GFE if I want. Its not uncommon at all. I have had girls who do the fuck and run on me a few times, but most of the time they want to stay the night.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691518]LOL. And now you are going through what I am. You pay a decent price for USA pussy and everyone on this forum says you overpaid. What I have learned the guys do on the Medellin forum is compare their 5's and 6's to 9's and 10's and say you are wasting your money.

Yeah, paying her to fuck never happened. I gave her no cash the first six months or so we we were together. She told me she had a job offer that paid $500 a month and she would see me less often if she took it. I covered that amount so I could see her more often.

I pay the rent on her place, but I would have to be for a hotel if I did not get the place.

My friends saw my gal's pics and called her a 10. I think she would be fetching $2000 a night easy in NYC if she went that route, but she never would.

Sofia Vergara is five foot seven, 140 lbs. Her measurements are 38-28-39. My gal is five feet 10,125 lbs. Measurements are around 34-24-37, and she worked from age 13 to the day she got pregnant as a model. I am biased, but I think my girl is prettier than SV.

Thing with these dummies is they keep trying to throw out these rules based on the centro chick low lifes and do not get that their rules will not work to get a gal like the one I have..[/QUOTE]If you got a dime who rivals Sofia Vergara in looks and personality and treats you right, even if your shelling out a fortune for her, then god bless you, its your money and I would probably do the same if I had the money and I am in my 50's or 60's.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2691395]What makes these chicks high end besides the fact they say they are and they want to charge $2000? Were they high end the first day they started fucking, or did they not get to be high end until they had been around the block a few times and earned enough to buy a fancy purse and fake hair?

You could have found the same type chicks for free, for $100, or for $5,000. For that reason I do not think it is saying much trying to compare prices of some random chicks your buddy chose for who knows what reason. You could just as well talk about the free chicks you and you buddy hooked up with from local facebook groups, as me and my buddies do in our group chat.

We also need to figure if someone is traveling to another country solely to get their dick wet or if they want to get away for R&R. Personally, I would much rather jump on a plane for $300 or $400 to some place I like for a few days, pay $50 per day for a room, and hang out with and fuck several local GFE chicks from $20 to $100, than simply pay $1250 to be with 1 chick where I live for 1 night. But that is just me.[/QUOTE]The point of my post simply put is this: Paying for pussy in Medellin- girls will be hotter in Medellin, girls will be significantly cheaper in Medellin, GFE is much more likely in Medellin. In USA, you can still have a good time, but its going to cost you and is definitely not my area of expertise as it doesn't make any sense for a guy like me to shell out that kind of money on a regular basis to fuck and party. Nor can my body handle it anymore LOL, felt hung over for days afterward LOL. Its also much harder to find the type of talent you want to chill with in the USA compared to walking down the street in Parque Lleras.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2691552]A decent price for pussy, anywhere in the world, is however much the buyer is comfortable paying.[/QUOTE]LOL. So if you pay $20 for a Big Mac, that is okay as long as you feel like you got a good deal.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2691552]Regardless of how hard you try to insist that every woman you're with is a 10[/QUOTE]I just gave her dimensions and told you what my friends said.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2691552]It doesn't matter what your friends say, or what my friends say, when you or I are the ones saying what they are saying. However, almost everyone is comfortable with their own opinion and they don't need to bring in imaginary support.[/QUOTE]Like I said, a 10 for you is a girl on your arm.

You could not even give a link to your $200 hookers in the USA. I am seeing the same prices as Ram is and Mr. E is saying he can get gals for free and you can get them for $200 an hour.

How is that possible? Oh right, you two are completely full of shit. Do you have any fucking clue what today's rates are in the USA?

Oh right, I forgot. Whatever your rate you pay is fair; the market does not matter.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2691552]You still don't get it and never will. Nobody, especially me, gives a fuck about the quality of women anyone else is getting and almost nobody gives a shit about how much they paid. What you say is the best sex ever might just be average to someone else.[/QUOTE]And the hits keep coming. The market does not matter, and the reviews of others do not matter either.

Now I know where you are getting your $200. You go to the erotic review and scope out girls rated a 1 in looks and a 1 in performance.

I do not know what you are arguing with JJBee. My girl has the dimensions of a Victoria Secret model, and you could have a girl who is 5 foot tall and 300 lbs, and you would say as long as she is a 10 in your eyes, she is a 10. You just agreed with what I said about you.

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He's so butt fugly he can't even buy a hot puta, so he gets a fugly one like him LOL.

But I'm guessing she's still not as bad as Elvis' mythical 10 LMAO.

FUK amazon buy from anywhere but there!!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691518]LOL. And now you are going through what I am. You pay a decent price for USA pussy and everyone on this forum says you overpaid. What I have learned the guys do on the Medellin forum is compare their 5's and 6's to 9's and 10's and say you are wasting your money.

Yeah, paying her to fuck never happened. I gave her no cash the first six months or so we we were together. She told me she had a job offer that paid $500 a month and she would see me less often if she took it. I covered that amount so I could see her more often.

I pay the rent on her place, but I would have to be for a hotel if I did not get the place.[/QUOTE]Odd, I know you haven't met me and my dates. And the same for several other people. So what makes you think our girls would be 5's or 6's? As usual you don't know what you are talking about. Nobody cares about Ram's night of debauchery, I don't get along with Ram but I'm glad he had a good time. But notice this. Ram isn't saying he bedded the hottest woman who ever lived, he doesn't think he found the Mount Everest of mongering.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691518]My friends saw my gal's pics and called her a 10. I think she would be fetching $2000 a night easy in NYC if she went that route, but she never would.

Sofia Vergara is five foot seven, 140 lbs. Her measurements are 38-28-39. My gal is five feet 10,125 lbs. Measurements are around 34-24-37, and she worked from age 13 to the day she got pregnant as a model. I am biased, but I think my girl is prettier than SV.[/QUOTE]Your friends? You have friends? Maybe your friends lied so as not to get into a never-ending argument. Or maybe your friends think you are koo-koo for coco puffs and just tried to keep you sedated.

Oh and as too Sofia Vergara. Seriously you think you have bragging rights? How old is your dependent call-girl? 30? 28? Sofia is 49 going on 50 and she looks slamming to everyone who doesn't have eyesight impairment. Maybe you'll save a few SV photos and compare your girl after a few more years. And we'll see what your "friends" say then.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691518]Thing with these dummies is they keep trying to throw out these rules [B]based on the centro chick low lifes and do not get that their rules will not work to get a gal like the one I have[/B][/QUOTE]Seriously? You met your girl how? Through SA? How many ways are there to meet girls in Medellin. "Let me count the ways" .

1. El Centro streetwalkers.

2. Casas- throughout the city and 75% of them you won't find without local help.

3. Parque Lleras and Gustos and that area. Higher-end tourist traps.

4. Strip Clubs (Fase2, La Isla, Luna Lunera, Club Ejectivo and on and on).

5. Internet agencies (Photoprepagos, Mileroticos, Skokka).

6. Face-Book girls & Tinder.

7. Seeking Arrangement, Colombia Cupid, Latina America Cupid.

And then we reach a different plateau where the girls are amenable to an intimate tryst but they either have a job or are enrolled in university and this is just a side thing.

I'm sure I didn't get anywhere listing every possibility. So why is it you think people criticizing you are picking up the El Centro streetwalkers? And not any of the other myriad possible meeting methods?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691518]I was trying to tell them how to fish for what I got, and all these bullshit artists insist what they have is as good as what I do and that I am overpaying for a ho.[/QUOTE]The real truth is that you came on claiming you had the prettiest working-girl ever and you were committed to her. And none of the rest of us could ever hope to do as well as you.

Sorry Elvie, as is almost always the case you don't know what you are talking about. Just because some working girl fell in love with your wallet, don't get too swollen a head.

You may not know this Elvis but there are an incredible number of gorgeous women in Colombia, and Medellin in particular. Many of them are already in love with your wallet (or mine or JjBee62's or.) it's what they do to make money. You're just another guy who fell in love with his hooker. [U][B]Maybe[/B][/U] you'll be wiser the next time.

The obvious pitfall for using numbers to rank a girl's beauty is I have literally seen one guy call a girl and 9 and another guy the same girl a 3. That won't change anyone's mind here.

The instant a person begins to rely on what other people believe is attractive for themselves, by definition they are practicing ego gratification. That in and of itself is not a bad thing but it is unnecessary and off-track. Psychologically, the root of this is self-insecurity and low self-esteem, often but not always compensated with over-confidence and braggadocio. There is no other explanation that covers all the situations.

In my experience, a lot of guys who play this ratings game do not discern between the illusion of a girl with make-up and dressed a certain way compared to chicas who don't. In fact, take away the make-up and a lot of these so called nines look very different. Experienced mongers know it's not what they look like when you take them home, but what they look like when you wake up next to them in the morning.

If I had to apply a ranking system, (gun to my head) I would say all my girls are nines to me, and it is irrelevant what another monger thinks. Looks might grab my attention initially, but then I immediately start factoring in all the other things that make a girl a pleasure to be around. Personality can be the attraction without a primary consideration of appearance. Basically, the girls who I end up with look the way they look, another guys 9 or a 3, I don't care.

Guys who say there girls have to be a certain number will cop-out and say they still want a girl with personality and all the intangibles but that she has to be a nine or whatever number, first. I got a newsflash for you. That is code for "I can only get it up if a girl looks a certain way". We are right back where we started. Self-doubt and insecurity.

The other cop-out is saying, "I use a number, but it only matters to me. " Newsflash #2: then you don't need a number which only has utility for comparisons with other hunters. Even if a monger believes he is using the system with like-minded mongers, for example, all their "nines" have blonde hair, blue eyes and big tits, then at least in theory you could be creating competition for yourself, which would counter-productive. Every experienced monger knows the best wingman's "nine" should be very different from your "nine", another fatal flaw of this ranking system, jajaja.

Finally, the absurdity within the absurd is a ranking of ten. If the scale is 1-10, then ten represents perfection, and no girl in the history of the world is perfect. Show me any female, any person, and my trained eye will call out an imperfection within seconds.

We will always be saddled with the common, the base, in this case using numbers to rank beauty. That is a less enlightened, less advanced viewpoint that creates unnecessary obstacles and restrictions designed to relieve the internal psychological conflicts of the mongers who use the system. They pay artificially inflated prices they themselves have created. Since all participants appear willing, I don't see the harm.

There are venues designed to attract guys who partake in this system, such as high end bars and clubs, where not surprisingly the prices are the highest for everything from the girls to the drinks.

A more enlightened conversation could go something like this. Mongerer Joe says, "I love my new girlfriend, she's just what I have been looking for. " Mongerer Bob, "What do you find so attractive about her"? Joe replies, "She weighs 400 pounds, and I love fat chics". Jaajajajaja Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691518]She told me she had a job offer that paid $500 a month and she would see me less often if she took it. I covered that amount so I could see her more often.

I pay the rent on [b]her[/b] place,[/QUOTE]And you fell for that bullshit? What skills does she posses and what was she going to be doing to be paid 2 million pesos per month? I was at an old flame's house last night here in Barranquilla. For 1,100,000 pesos she works from Monday through Saturday, 6:30am to 8pm with an hour and a half for lunch.

Seems there would have been a line straight into the next city if they were giving out a job paying 2 million to someone with no skills (assuming your girl has no special skills because if she did you would have already mentioned them.)

How could she have known you two would see each other less? You may have even adjusted your schedule and it turned out you could see each other more. Me thinks you got played my man.

See a player like myself would have said okay go ahead and take the job and we will see how things work out. There would probably end up not even being a job at that point. Something would have happened and the offer would have fell through. And if it really was a real job offer, she could have always quit later with you then deciding to pay the rent if you had not continued to see each other to your satisfaction. But you put the cart before the damn horse. You need to stay 3 steps ahead of these women instead of running behind them playing catch up.

If I am ever paying rent then it is on MY place. Maybe I would allow a broad to stay in MY place (which I would not actually do) but I am not handing over money recurringly for some broad to have a place to lay her head. That shit is out of the question. Even if I was sending a chick money for any reason, I would have a key to her place. I am not helping out on bills at a place I do not have a key to and can not pop up anytime I damn well please.

Funny how this woman is so great that no other suitors and their money were good enough for her. Only Elvis and his magic $500 per month held the key to her heart. What is your secret? What did you do to crack this nut that everyone else did not?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2691635]In my experience, a lot of guys who play this ratings game do not discern between the illusion of a girl with make-up and dressed a certain way compared to chicas who don't. In fact, take away the make-up and a lot of these so called nines look very different. Experienced mongers know it's not what they look like when you take them home, but what they look like when you wake up next to them in the morning.[/QUOTE]I was thinking about starting a dating site where chicks could only post 3 pictures. All would have to be against a white wall and 1 would have to be with no makeup, like a drivers license picture or mugshot, so guys would really know what they are bargaining for. I do not think it would work though because there are too many guys that are deep into the fantasy or illusion as you put it. They think if the chick has a picture on a boat or wearing special shoes then she is automatically better than another chick and worth more.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2691635]A more enlightened conversation could go something like this. Mongerer Joe says, "I love my new girlfriend, she's just what I have been looking for. " Mongerer Bob, "What do you find so attractive about her"? Joe replies, "She weighs 400 pounds, and I love fat chics".[/QUOTE]You said something in that post brother. Never have I been out mongering with friends and one of us picked a chick and another said ewww, are you sure you want her. She is just a 4. Go over there and grab one of those 8s. We have no competition going. Get what you want and have fun.

Online there seems to be a big competition among strangers though. The girl that I am paying is better than yours. You girl is not good because you only have to pay her 30,000 pesos. Chicks that want more money are better. Chicks that sell pussy in this neighborhood are better than the chicks in the neighborhood you are buying pussy in.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691518]My friends saw my gal's pics and called her a 10. I think she would be fetching $2000 a night easy in NYC[/QUOTE]And what would she be getting in Botero Plaza? Probably the same 30 or 40K that everyone else gets around there.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2691635]The obvious pitfall for using numbers to rank a girl's beauty is I have literally seen one guy call a girl and 9 and another guy the same girl a 3. That won't change anyone's mind here.

The instant a person begins to rely on what other people believe is attractive for themselves, by definition they are practicing ego gratification. That in and of itself is not a bad thing but it is unnecessary and off-track. Psychologically, the root of this is self-insecurity and low self-esteem, often but not always compensated with over-confidence and braggadocio. There is no other explanation that covers all the situations.

In my experience, a lot of guys who play this ratings game do not discern between the illusion of a girl with make-up and dressed a certain way compared to chicas who don't. In fact, take away the make-up and a lot of these so called nines look very different. Experienced mongers know it's not what they look like when you take them home, but what they look like when you wake up next to them in the morning.[/QUOTE]I agree with most of this post.

I think the 1-10 rating system is so subjective it is almost meaningless when talking with others.

That said.

If you put a gun to my head, I will say I have seen and done a few 10's.

Blonde haired blued eyed 18 yo absolutely perfect goddesses (xero physical flaws), no ink no babies no implants but unfortunately too much attitude for my liking (I can get more pleasure from pornhub for free sans the bitchiness).

When I monger I hunt for what in my mind would be an 8 on my internal 1-10 scale.

I will settle for some PSE with 7's, (but I typically try to avoid the divas that I would consider 9's or 10's).

But really don't want to go below that.

So in closing I think this scale should be used for "internal purposes only".

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2691807]And what would she be getting in Botero Plaza? Probably the same 30 or 40K that everyone else gets around there.[/QUOTE]If anyone seen her with him, much much less than that LOL.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691583]I am seeing the same prices as Ram is and Mr. E is saying he can get gals for free and you can get them for $200 an hour.

How is that possible? Oh right, you two are completely full of shit. Do you have any fucking clue what today's rates are in the USA?[/QUOTE]It is possible because there are tons of different chicks in tons of different places. You are talking like the big ass USA is a monolith and the only place anyone can find a female is a place where they want $2000.

Because you paid $6 for a gallon of unleaded by the airport in Los Angeles you are acting like a mf passing through Bessemer, Alabama can not get the same gallon of gas at a station for $3.30.

Just because Elvis rented a private plane to get to Miami does not mean the next mf has to get to Miami by renting a private plane and it is impossible to get there by hitchhiking, by taking a train, by driving your own car, or even by fucking walking.

You assume the only road to Rome is the one you are driving on and someone saying they arrived by any other road is full of shit.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2691568]Nah, these chicks spent much more time than 45 minutes doing what they were supposed to do. I don't like to get into too dirty of details, but they did everything we wanted with enthusiasm and they were compensated quite fairly. As I have said for the millionth time now, its not my style to spend money like that, but these chicks def earned their doe and did not pull any shady shit.
[/QUOTE]No need to defend this Ram, you paid the going rate. I was kind of wondering what the fuck was going on with the pandemic. I was scoring great women in Mexico and Colombia but prices in the USA doubled.

I was usually able to pull an 8 or 9 type out of a strip club for $300. The pandemic hit and girls were asking for a $1000 an hour. LOL. They would go down but it made no sense to me until I saw this:

[URL]https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1520243705801674752[/URL]

This is the money going into the hands of hos. I even talked to a dancer who got a $30,000 low interest loan and bragged about how easy it is. I bet it will be forgiven. Biden is trying to pay everyone off by forgiving all kinds of loans.

Thing is that there was this belief that printing money would not cause inflation. Well, you do enough of it and it happens. Inflation does not seem like it has hit Medellin like Cartagena but it will.

I have been loading up on triple inverse ETFS and am going to cash in. Seeing hos is like the ultimate luxury item, and it is a good time to go short when prices with them is out of control like it is now.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2691793]Even if I was sending a chick money for any reason, I would have a key to her place. I am not helping out on bills at a place I do not have a key to and can not pop up anytime I damn well please.[/QUOTE]LOL. You think I do not have a key?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2691793]Funny how this woman is so great that no other suitors and their money were good enough for her. Only Elvis and his magic $500 per month held the key to her heart. What is your secret? What did you do to crack this nut that everyone else did not?[/QUOTE]Yawn. I did not pay $500 a month until we went out for six months but keep calling her a ho; that is what you guys do.

You guys who live abroad have no sense of how things are here. $500 is what you pay a well reviewed 8 in the USA for an hour. If you think that is a lot of money, you are not a player at all.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2691793]See a player like myself would have said okay go ahead and take the job and we will see how things work out. There would probably end up not even being a job at that point. Something would have happened and the offer would have fell through. And if it really was a real job offer, she could have always quit later with you then deciding to pay the rent if you had not continued to see each other to your satisfaction. But you put the cart before the damn horse. You need to stay 3 steps ahead of these women instead of running behind them playing catch up.[/QUOTE]That is what I mean. When you go after average women and you lose one, it is no big deal. You go all through all this bullshit about stupid women and women asking for marriage and standing you up and then say I got played by a 10 for $500 a month. That amount means very little to me. What do you do Mr. E and how much do you make an hour and how much do you think I make?

You have no clue what the market is in the USA and what the high end market is in Colombia. You are equating your average women with a 10.

Funny thing is the ex-fiance all you douches said was average looking just found a guy to spend $30,000 on plastic surgery on her. That is not a surprise to me. She was the prettiest girl I saw in Peru, and my current gal is even more striking.

You are completely content with your average looking women so just keep on keepin' on.

But just to be clear, I do not think you are a player. You are a bullshit artist trying to equate your 5's with my 10. You think you are so fucking smart and have the game all figured out, but I am not interested in the game you are playing and the guys I hang with typically are not interested in it either.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2691635]The obvious pitfall for using numbers to rank a girl's beauty is I have literally seen one guy call a girl and 9 and another guy the same girl a 3. That won't change anyone's mind here.

The instant a person begins to rely on what other people believe is attractive for themselves, by definition they are practicing ego gratification. That in and of itself is not a bad thing but it is unnecessary and off-track. Psychologically, the root of this is self-insecurity and low self-esteem, often but not always compensated with over-confidence and braggadocio. There is no other explanation that covers all the situations..[/QUOTE]This brings to mind a few things.

1. When I was always going to strip clubs, I learned the difference between what you see and what is really there. All the makeup and the lighting, plus the atmosphere makes every girl look better.

2. Again from my titty bar days, I looked for the positive in every dancer. She's fat, but she's a great dancer. Her face is nothing special, but her pole work is amazing. Every woman has her flaws, but also her strong points.

3. While working with a friend, mostly driving downtown making deliveries, he kept pointing out women. Each time it was a woman with a nice ass. At the end of the day I saw a woman with by far the best backside we had seen all day, and she had a great body and face. I pointed her out to him and he was disgusted. He wondered how I could ever think someone like that was attractive. It took a moment before I understood. She was black, he was racist.

If I'm discussing a particular woman with someone, instead of saying she's a number, I simply show a picture. He then responds with what he does or doesn't like.

One last bit. I'm a real, reasonably normal man. That means what I think looks best today may not be what I want tomorrow. I can't imagine going through life and only being attracted to one specific set of attributes.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2691815]Because you paid $6 for a gallon of unleaded by the airport in Los Angeles you are acting like a mf passing through Bessemer, Alabama can not get the same gallon of gas at a station for $3.30.[/QUOTE]WTF are you talking about? I can look on line and see what prices are with gasoline and with women.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2691815]You assume the only road to Rome is the one you are driving on and someone saying they arrived by any other road is full of shit.[/QUOTE]No, you are full of shit because you have not showed anyone any road, and I am here, and you are not.

I can show you countless women on line and their prices. Tell me the ones who are charging nothing or how about even more than that, how about a whole $5 an hour? Can you do that?

If you cannot do that, and I know you cannot, then you are full of shit.

I had to do some serious work to pull these pictures. I had to make sure no tattoos or faces or distinguishing marks were showing. I picked girls that I've met, talked to and arranged a pleasureable visit. (See how useful it is to be able to speak Spanish above a beginner's level) None of these girls are from FaceBook or Tinder (because someone will think they recognize them and will be quick to tell them their pics are on the internet). So it would be a minor miracle if anyone recognized one of these girls.

My primary purpose is to show Mr. Ego-Elvis that yes! Some of us can pull very pretty girls that aren't 5's or 6's. So BTW show us some pictures of your "10" or are you too ashamed? Maybe she isn't anything worth looking at.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2691964]I had to do some serious work to pull these pictures. I had to make sure no tattoos or faces or distinguishing marks were showing. I picked girls that I've met, talked to and arranged a pleasureable visit. (See how useful it is to be able to speak Spanish above a beginner's level) None of these girls are from FaceBook or Tinder (because someone will think they recognize them and will be quick to tell them their pics are on the internet). So it would be a minor miracle if anyone recognized one of these girls.

My primary purpose is to show Mr. Ego-Elvis that yes! Some of us can pull very pretty girls that aren't 5's or 6's. So BTW show us some pictures of your "10" or are you too ashamed? Maybe she isn't anything worth looking at.[/QUOTE]I love in the last foto how she has that slight "dent" in middle of the crack of her ass, sure tail (pun intended) sign will take a trip down the Hershey Highway, jeje.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2691635]You are behind the Eight-Ball the second you start believing in a ranking system..[/QUOTE]The ranking system has to do with demand, supply, and price. You would be a fool if you did not consider that.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2691635]The obvious pitfall for using numbers to rank a girl's beauty is I have literally seen one guy call a girl and 9 and another guy the same girl a 3. That won't change anyone's mind here.[/QUOTE]The goal is not to ascertain your demand but the demand of others.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2691635]The instant a person begins to rely on what other people believe is attractive for themselves, by definition they are practicing ego gratification. That in and of itself is not a bad thing but it is unnecessary and off-track. Psychologically, the root of this is self-insecurity and low self-esteem, often but not always compensated with over-confidence and braggadocio. There is no other explanation that covers all the situations.[/QUOTE]Uh, no. If you treat a 9 like a 3, you will never get a 9.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2691635]If I had to apply a ranking system, (gun to my head) I would say all my girls are nines to me, and it is irrelevant what another monger thinks. Looks might grab my attention initially, but then I immediately start factoring in all the other things that make a girl a pleasure to be around. Personality can be the attraction without a primary consideration of appearance. Basically, the girls who I end up with look the way they look, another guys 9 or a 3, I don't care.[/QUOTE]The girl with the rash on his ass is a high demand 9? LOL. You are delusional. Some of your women are attractive but all 9's? Uh no.

I don't care. If you are happy, then that is cool. The problem I have with you guys is how badly you are bullshitting yourselves. I am not a car guy. I want something that gets from A to be, that I am comfortable in, does not look hideous and could care less about having a high end car. I am just as happy with a Toyota Corolla as a Porsche.

But if someone saves, works hard, cares about cars and goes out and gets a Porsche, I would say good for him and be happy for him But if I say to him, you know my Toyota is in as high a demand as your Porsche, and I like to think of my Toyota as my Porsche then I am a POS loser because I am not respecting what the other guy did.

And that is the problem with you losers and your excuses for not getting more in demand women. You have to invest a lot of blood, sweat, tears, time, and money getting a 10, and you are rationalizing not getting one instead of putting in the work.

And the whole concept that you do not care what other mongers think is egotistical beyond belief. Women are almost always looking for better offers, and the in demand women get a staggering number of them. If you are not making an in demand woman happy, then she is going to take one of those offers. Of course, seeing you have all these 9's (cough, cough), I would think you would know that.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2691964]I had to do some serious work to pull these pictures. I had to make sure no tattoos or faces or distinguishing marks were showing. I picked girls that I've met, talked to and arranged a pleasureable visit. (See how useful it is to be able to speak Spanish above a beginner's level) None of these girls are from FaceBook or Tinder (because someone will think they recognize them and will be quick to tell them their pics are on the internet). So it would be a minor miracle if anyone recognized one of these girls.

My primary purpose is to show Mr. Ego-Elvis that yes! Some of us can pull very pretty girls that aren't 5's or 6's. So BTW show us some pictures of your "10" or are you too ashamed? Maybe she isn't anything worth looking at.[/QUOTE]Because as we all know, these blow hards who claim your 9's and 10's are their 5's and 6's almost [B]never[/B] post any pictures of their own. Either post up or shut up! By the way, in my view, in order to give a solid rating one [B]must[/B] be able to see the face. For me, the face is an essential part of a female's beauty that needs to be taken into account in her overall beauty ranking. So in my system, the girl in your pics could still fall before my minimum acceptable score of a 7 if I don't like her face. I understand that tutes often times don't want to show their faces in pics, but it is what it is. No face = insufficient evidence to assign a full beauty score.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2691807]And what would she be getting in Botero Plaza? Probably the same 30 or 40K that everyone else gets around there.[/QUOTE]Elvis has a black puta (he has written he really likes blk putas and I believe he also wrote he voted for Barry Hussein), I know not all mongers like blk putas so maybe that's why he's not posting a foto?

Lest he be accused of "sweet lemons" then he can't repeatedly be typing he has a unicorn 10.

Hey crazy Elvis did you write recently you introduced your daughter (s) to your (possibly) blk 3rd world puta live in GF? LMAO.

Hey don't forget to renew your medical license soon ROTFLMMFAO!

So crazy E inquiring minds want to know.

What color is "your" 10 puta white black brown green?

Last thing, I must know how in the world you snuck a laptop into the psych ward? LOL.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691873]No need to defend this Ram, you paid the going rate. I was kind of wondering what the fuck was going on with the pandemic. I was scoring great women in Mexico and Colombia but prices in the USA doubled.

I was usually able to pull an 8 or 9 type out of a strip club for $300. The pandemic hit and girls were asking for a $1000 an hour. LOL. They would go down but it made no sense to me until I saw this:

[URL]https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1520243705801674752[/URL]

This is the money going into the hands of hos. I even talked to a dancer who got a $30,000 low interest loan and bragged about how easy it is. I bet it will be forgiven. Biden is trying to pay everyone off by forgiving all kinds of loans.

Thing is that there was this belief that printing money would not cause inflation. Well, you do enough of it and it happens. Inflation does not seem like it has hit Medellin like Cartagena but it will.

I have been loading up on triple inverse ETFS and am going to cash in. Seeing hos is like the ultimate luxury item, and it is a good time to go short when prices with them is out of control like it is now.[/QUOTE]I wasn't defending my post, I am just sharing real world information I experienced. I could care less who cares what about what I did. My posts are for all to read and get a little info from. There are probably a lot of dudes in the same boat as my boy where they can't run off to another country, but they still want to enjoy the same party lifestyle in the USA for a night. Those are the prices I paid for a night of fun. If you can find it cheaper, then fuck it! LOL. That was a line from the film "From Dusk Till Dawn" for anyone who didn't pick up on that. That movie should be on every monger's must watch list. I also just watched a good film about Buenos Aires, called "Assassination Tango", wasn't bad and I would also recommend it.

Let's all not use a rating system anymore because the forum psychiatrist enlightened us in his last therapy session and proclaimed to us they are no longer useful and we need to get more in touch with our inner monger spirits LOL. Let's also not compare prices either, let's just pay what ever they charge. Let's not look into the best deals on hotels or flights and just book the first one available. Let's not try to compare our experiences at all and just wing everything- oh yea that would be fucking stupid and defeat the entire purpose of the fucking board.

Having a rating system is just an easy way to exchange information on how much hookers are charging and what they are going to look like. There is a big difference in price from a streetwalker who is a "5" vs a solid chick out of Gusto who is a "8". I am not flying to another country for a 15 minute fuck with a "5". With the number ratings I don't have to go to extreme lengths and describe the various attributes that place these girls into a specific category. It's makes things nice and simple and gives us all a general idea of what's going on. Yes, it's not perfect, everyone rates girls different, and photos are better. However, it's still quite useful and will be continued to be used on this forum and among men for the rest of time due to its simplicity and effectiveness.

If you want to write 6 paragraphs to describe every hooker you fuck, then be my guest, I personally think that's a waste of time for most people- both the reader and writer.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2691964]I had to do some serious work to pull these pictures. I had to make sure no tattoos or faces or distinguishing marks were showing. I picked girls that I've met, talked to and arranged a pleasureable visit. (See how useful it is to be able to speak Spanish above a beginner's level) None of these girls are from FaceBook or Tinder (because someone will think they recognize them and will be quick to tell them their pics are on the internet). So it would be a minor miracle if anyone recognized one of these girls.

My primary purpose is to show Mr. Ego-Elvis that yes! Some of us can pull very pretty girls that aren't 5's or 6's. So BTW show us some pictures of your "10" or are you too ashamed? Maybe she isn't anything worth looking at.[/QUOTE]6's and 7's on my scale, the one with a fat ass looks like an 8 from the back. Maybe the skinny one is a 5.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2688693]
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All I wanted people to say was that was interesting and I will keep it in mind.
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Now do you get it?
[/QUOTE]I think you explain a lot of things. I can get those.

When you say sex is better, what do you mean by that? Longer orgasm, or more? There are people only go to casas, then there are people that do overnight date. The later can say overnight date is better. Are you taking that one step further, saying commitment is better than overnight?

Do you think you have better sex than Slapshot's as he also have a live in girlfriend?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2688708]...

I have two simple criteria needed to hold my attention and especially for friends. ...[/QUOTE]I have some catching up to do, haha. I think we learn more from people with different opinion and like you said, more interesting. This place would be bored if we all agree to each other.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2691964]...
My primary purpose is to show Mr. Ego-Elvis that yes! Some of us can pull very pretty girls that aren't 5's or 6's. So BTW show us some pictures of your "10" or are you too ashamed? Maybe she isn't anything worth looking at.[/QUOTE]What you say can apply to others but probably not Elvis. He has posted pictures a few times. You just need to look up his old posts. I don't image he would post his current 10.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2692025]Because as we all know, these blow hards who claim your 9's and 10's are their 5's and 6's almost [B]never[/B] post any pictures of their own. Either post up or shut up! By the way, in my view, in order to give a solid rating one [B]must[/B] be able to see the face. For me, the face is an essential part of a female's beauty that needs to be taken into account in her overall beauty ranking. So in my system, the girl in your pics could still fall before my minimum acceptable score of a 7 if I don't like her face. I understand that tutes often times don't want to show their faces in pics, but it is what it is. No face = insufficient evidence to assign a full beauty score.[/QUOTE]A foto on a hooker forum w / o a face is more likely a "1" than a "10" LOL.

Just like escort sites, a less than stellar puta usually has the face blurred so what's to complain about when that "3" shows up LOL.

The face is the most critical part of the foto, she doesn't have to be a beauty queen but the face tells me a lot, besides just if I'm sexually attracted to her or not, IE.

Her mileage.

Her age.

Her demeanor.

Etc etc etc.

Posting a foto has no value, next time how about a foto of a bridge or a bus? Same value XERO.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2692169]What you say can apply to others but probably not Elvis. He has posted pictures a few times. You just need to look up his old posts. I don't image he would post his current 10.[/QUOTE]This is the funny part. You guys keep busting on Elvis and he keep winning, his girlfriend is very hot. I have me Elvis, very nice guy in person. Maybe you guys could learn a few thing from him. He obviously knows what he is doing and understand Colombia. If I was guys I would try and learn from him, not flight with him. Elvis and I disagreed on a few things, but we both learned something from our meeting.

Now, Elvis could maybe cut down on the name calling, but honestly most of you deserve it. Also, being fair and giving some good feedback. Sometimes your math numbers are a little off and maybe you could do a little better job explaining how much you really pay. We all pay, as I have said many times, but guys will find something negative no matter what you say. I can careless how much someone gives a girl. As you said, I honestly feel guilty how little I actually give these girls. Many are friends and make my life so much better with our meetings, text and phone calls.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692024]The ranking system has to do with demand, supply, and price. You would be a fool if you did not consider that.

The goal is not to ascertain your demand but the demand of others.

Uh, no. If you treat a 9 like a 3, you will never get a 9.

The girl with the rash on his ass is a high demand 9? LOL. You are delusional. Some of your women are attractive but all 9's? Uh no.

I don't care. If you are happy, then that is cool. The problem I have with you guys is how badly you are bullshitting yourselves. I am not a car guy. I want something that gets from A to be, that I am comfortable in, does not look hideous and could care less about having a high end car. I am just as happy with a Toyota Corolla as a Porsche.

But if someone saves, works hard, cares about cars and goes out and gets a Porsche, I would say good for him and be happy for him But if I say to him, you know my Toyota is in as high a demand as your Porsche, and I like to think of my Toyota as my Porsche then I am a POS loser because I am not respecting what the other guy did.

And that is the problem with you losers and your excuses for not getting more in demand women. You have to invest a lot of blood, sweat, tears, time, and money getting a 10, and you are rationalizing not getting one instead of putting in the work.

And the whole concept that you do not care what other mongers think is egotistical beyond belief. Women are almost always looking for better offers, and the in demand women get a staggering number of them. If you are not making an in demand woman happy, then she is going to take one of those offers. Of course, seeing you have all these 9's (cough, cough), I would think you would know that.[/QUOTE]Agreed, Corolla is not a Porsche, and I have respect for successful individuals who set and achieve goals. Failure hurts and when those goals go up in smoke, it sucks, so I'll always have respect for a winner. That's why people watch sports, it agonizing to be the loser and its awesome to be the winner!

The sexy "8" a guy fucked out of Parque Lleras is not a University educated, Professionally employed, non-pro, dime-piece who is with him for reasons other than money, money is only one factor among many. I have respect for that, if that is what a guy is after. I am not referring to just Elvis here, but any dude in general who is seeking that and attains it, especially at an advanced age where he is 15-20 years older than the woman, I have respect for that and in the real world, so would most guys.

While on the subject, my biggest complaint about mongering for me is its too easy and you get instant satisfaction too quickly. Playing the long game with a quality non-pro that starts off on seeking or Cupid is in the future for me. If I even suspect the girl is a seasoned pro or worked at a strip club, or something along those lines, I would probably move on to the next as from my own personal experiences those girls are too hardened and the experience I am looking for isn't going to meet my needs. Yes, I understand that eliminates the vast majority of the girls on those platforms LOL. I am also still not going to give up the occasional romp at the strip club either LOL, but I do have more of a desire for quality over quantity at the moment.

And obviously, if a dude wants to ride off into the sunset and fuck a different chick every night of the week until his dick falls off or he has a stroke, god bless that dude too.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2692082]6's and 7's on my scale, the one with a fat ass looks like an 8 from the back. Maybe the skinny one is a 5.[/QUOTE]No one could make Osteo's point any better than you just did. We are all different and our tastes are subjectively different too. I'm an older guy that likes flacas with gorgeous faces.

All of those girls made the grade. The one with the ass was a rare exception (for me) but she has stunning good looks, larger natural breasts and not a single tattoo and no kids. All the rest are flacas with very beautiful faces. That is how I roll.

Perhaps, like a fellow extranjero friend, you prefer the women with more curves and larger breasts. If so, the girls in my collection would fall a point or two. If you like the hard-body athletic types, my collection would go up on some and down on others.

All of which confirms the accuracy of Osteo's post. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My 8's and 9's are your 6's and 7's (of course it isn't exactly a fair comparison because due to promises I made, I can't show their faces and front side).

[QUOTE=Nounce;2692169]What you say can apply to others but probably not Elvis. He has posted pictures a few times. You just need to look up his old posts. I don't image he would post his current 10.[/QUOTE]That was the point. He says everyone criticizes him and claims their 5's and 6's are equal to his Miss Universe. Well, I say "put up or shut up". The girl's fotos he posted in the past are inconsequential.

"Show us your Miss Universe. I just showed a handful of my semi-pros, prove to me yours is better. If you can."

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691873]No need to defend this Ram, you paid the going rate.[/QUOTE]So why did the chicks initially ask for $2000 if this "going rate" is $1250? It seems you are the only party that was aware of this going rate since there was haggling back and forth. It would have saved time and trouble had you just phoned to notify everyone involved that $1250 is the going rate and there is no need to ask for more or give less.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691933]I can show you countless women on line and their prices. Tell me the ones who are charging nothing[/QUOTE]LOL. Normal women do not exist? There are only hookers in this world? So now you admit your girl is P4P.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2692200]LOL. So now normal women do not exist. There are only hookers in this world.[/QUOTE]Does this mean women didn't exist before they were able to post pictures online?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2692169]What you say can apply to others but probably not Elvis. He has posted pictures a few times. You just need to look up his old posts. I don't image he would post his current 10.[/QUOTE]Not after the ridicule he received about the chick that was supposedly an actual beauty queen. People were saying it must have been one of those special olympics beauty contests. To me they just looked liked normal everyday women you would see walking down any Colombian street. His picture posting days ended as soon as they started.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2692207]Not after the ridicule he received about the chick that was supposedly an actual beauty queen. People were saying it must have been one of those special olympics beauty contests. To me they just looked liked normal everyday women you would see walking down any Colombian street. His picture posting days ended as soon as they started.[/QUOTE]That's called YMMV. I don't find them attractive either but that indicates his taste.

Like in Sao Paulo discussion, many people are impressed by Scandallo's 9s and 10s and I don't. Since I have been there several time and it provides the context for me so I don't need to disagree with their taste.

When those posters post a 9 or 10, I can agree with them based on their taste, not mine. I am in no position to criticize anyone who post actual pictures taken by themselves since I don't do that.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2692212]That's called YMMV. I don't find them attractive either but that indicates his taste.

Like in Sao Paulo discussion, many people are impressed by Scandallo and I don't. Since I have been there several time and it provides the context for me so I don't need to disagree with them or belittle their taste. When those posters post a 9 or 10, I can agree with them based on their taste, not mine. I am in no position to criticize anyone who post actual pictures taken by themselves since I don't do that.[/QUOTE]It depends on what the person says about the posted picture. If I post a picture and say I think the girl is beautiful, people will agree or disagree based on their opinion.

However, if I post a picture and then say something which contradicts the picture, there is a problem.

In the example of the beauty pageant girl, if I remember correctly, it was stated she was one of the top finishers in the Miss Colombia competition. However the picture showed a girl at what looked like a small, local beauty contest, which are frequently put on at bars or local festivals. Instead of being ranked as one of the most beautiful women in Colombia, she appeared to just be the typical girl you'll find at any of those contests.

Another picture of his showed 2 women on a beach talking. It was taken from a distance and the women had their back to the camera. First problem, anyone can take a picture like that. It's not a picture where the women know their picture is being taken. I had lunch at Viva mall today and could have taken 100 pictures of women. If I posted one and claimed to be dating the woman, I would expect people to not believe me.

The other problem was he claimed one of the girls had 0% body fat, which was obviously not true. It was as obvious of a lie as if I posted a picture of a woman with no legs and said she had beautiful feet.

I've read more than one report claiming that Uber is illegal in Colombia. Seriously, how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe that a multi-million dollar multinational corporation would operate illegally in any country? You got to be dumb as shit. If Uber was illegal in Colombia, the government would block all access to Uber, just like the Chinese government blocks whatever Western sites they don't agree with. Secondly, Uber's board of directors would be issued arrest warrants with Interpol, and would be extradited to Colombia to stand trial by any country with an extradition treaty with Colombia. Thirdly, no Colombian bank could to business with Uber. When you open a business in a foreign country, the first thing you do is open a local bank account. How the fuck does Uber process credit card payments in Colombia if they are illegal? And how the fuck would Uber pay corporate taxes in Colombia if they are operating illegally without a license? It's called tax evasion and the charges can be felonies punishable by decades in a Colombian prison if they are anything like USA Laws. You think the millionaire Uber executives in San Francisco gave the green light to operate illegally in Colombia when it's obvious they risk serious time in Colombian prison?

The real truth about Uber in Colombia? A few years ago, they were sued by a taxi collective. The judge found in favor of the taxi collective, that Uber was operating with unfair advantages, and ordered Uber to cease operations in Colombia. Uber immediately complied because their execs didn't want to go to prison. Uber then found a loophole. Uber resumed operations a month later claiming that they are not a rideshare company, but instead a car rental company, and that the car just happened to included a driver. And since then they are operating as a car rental company, 100% legally.

All those who are writing "sit in front seat because Uber is illegal" please wake the fuck up and try to process logic with your single digit IQ brain of yours and it will be clear that there is no way in hell Uber can operate illegally in any country.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2692169]What you say can apply to others but probably not Elvis. He has posted pictures a few times. You just need to look up his old posts. I don't image he would post his current 10.[/QUOTE]By the same token the Marquis de Twat posted Medellin vacation pics, though it turned out they were 9 years old and ripped from a gringa blog, so the existence of "pics" often doesn't prove anything. And since Elvira posted pics of his other "10's," then why not this one? I don't follow you there.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2692207]Not after the ridicule he received about the chick that was supposedly an actual beauty queen. People were saying it must have been one of those special olympics beauty contests. To me they just looked liked normal everyday women you would see walking down any Colombian street. His picture posting days ended as soon as they started.[/QUOTE]LOL. I love how you guys proclaim stuff to be true. I show a pic of her at a contest. You all proclaim it is fake and think you have won. She was the total package when I met her, but her personality was rough around the edges, and that is why I never repeated with her.

So many guys on this site wanted to date her after I mentioned her she changed her handle on the site to Theycallmequeen.

I am just amazed at how much stuff you "know". You "know" my gal is a ho. You "know" my gal is ripping me off, you "know" my gal has no work skills, and you "know" there are all these hot women who will fuck you for free in the USA (I am sure there are some pigs that would be up for it if you want that) and you "know" that girl is not a beauty queen.

The reality is you do not know any of that, and that is why you are a bullshit artist.

And I can do it too. I "know" you fuck women for free by stringing them along with a green card and marriage and lie about fucking hos when you are with them. I "know" that the women you are fucking I would not do if you paid me.

Honestly, I was going to post a bunch of women who were like SI swimsuit models types and watch you losers tear into them but why bother? I already "know" which of you guys are full of shit.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2692082]6's and 7's on my scale, the one with a fat ass looks like an 8 from the back. Maybe the skinny one is a 5.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I do not know what to make of any of that. Any guy can pull women who look like that from centro in Medellin or Santa Fe in Bogota. Villainy's railing against something trying to make me look badly, which is like half of his posts, and I am like WTF are you talking about?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2692166]I think you explain a lot of things. I can get those.

When you say sex is better, what do you mean by that? Longer orgasm, or more?

Do you think you have better sex than Slapshot's as he also have a live in girlfriend?[/QUOTE]Nounce, you have done SBs and WGs. A ho can be a better fuck than a SB, but when you find a good SB and get comfortable, it is like better than what 99% of the hos. Women are emotional creatures, hell we all are, and money is a minimum motivator. What I means is what do the hos say with CIM? "Well if I am going to do that, I want $50 or whatever."

A lot of guys like to say SBs are hos but that misses the point. There is affection there. The best SBs were not just about the money. They liked the guy and wanted to please him.

Think about what motivates you to perform. How much does money help with that? Then there is loyalty, friendship, guilt, vengeance, embarrassment, and best of all, love. In its purest form, if you love your partner, you will do anything to please them, and it is not for money but just because you want them to be happy.

I asked myself why I saw women and spend the money I do, and it is to feel better. With this girl, it is off the chain. She does all she can to make me feel better. She calls me every night, texts me every day, and would literally do anything for me. These idiots calling her a ho are so jaded I wonder if they know what a real relationship is. I have offered money so many times, and she has turned me down. Her two requests are to spend more time with me and have more sex. I have noticed when women are really in love they cannot get enough sex.

I like Surfer, and I am not sure where his relationship is. For me, the honeymoon phase of sex and love ebbs after 3 months. Then the sex gets routine. We are going on a year and it is gotten better and better. So Surfer could be at a later phase where the sex is not as good or at the same phase as where I am. All I know is I want this to last as long as it can.

If I see another woman or do not make spending time with her a priority, then this phase will end and obviously I do not want that.

To me, the ultimate is if you can get a 10 in looks, a 10 in bed and a girl who really cares about you. That is when you are going to have the best sex.

And getting a 10 is a different game. I have posted a photo of Gaby before, and she is an international model. She was wearing that red top and black skirt when we met, and IMO she was a 9-10 type. She took my breath away. She asked for $500 on our first meet, and I balked at paying it. I later met her and did pay it. Thing is that put in a measure of doubt. When you have a 10, you strike hard, and let them pull back money wise. You have to show yourself that you are all in with her because she has so many other offers. Girls like this do not stay on the market long.

I saw her later, and she was a good lover and a really good person. She asked if I was seeing someone else, and I lied and said no, and she found a hair in the bathroom from another girl. LOL. We were done after that.

The other girl was a 9-10 type too, but I handled her right. I was generous with her, and I did not mention money but gave her a fair amount and took her on some shopping trips. Unfortunately, she was mentally ill with borderline, and I had to break if off with her before things got too crazy, but it was a fun ride.

Thing with Gaby is once she let her guard down she really did not want that much. I think she could have been happy with a $1000 a month, and she would have been a short jaunt to Mexico City. Of course, now her IG page shows her with a guy who takes her all over Mexico and they stay at nice places. She is in love now and I am happy with how things worked out.

But this is what I mean by learning the game. At the time, I was bummed out, but I learned from it. You have to go through these hard knocks to learn.

Not setting a price is crazy advice for an above average looking girl as is the notion of it being a privilege to pay for her. With Gaby though? Shit, a $1000 a month to fuck a great girl who is skilled in bed and could be on the cover of Maxim's? Fuck yeah that is a privilege.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2692245]...And since Elvira posted pics of his other "10's," then why not this one? I don't follow you there.[/QUOTE]Maybe he will if he does not end up marrying her. To me, I have seen enough to have some idea of his taste and that is enough unless he posts new pictures that make me adjust my view.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692024]Women are almost always looking for better offers, and the in demand women get a staggering number of them.[/QUOTE]In that case will I not only see the $500 rent you are paying your girl, but I will raise it and pay $100 utilities as well. Then when she finishes with you, I will finish with her.

At least you see your chick often. Most of the guys that support these chicks are not able to see them as often, then one day wake up and realize they are throwing money away and stop the payments. I guess you are getting what you are paying for. And fair exchange is no robbery.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2692217]...
In the example of the beauty pageant girl, if I remember correctly, it was stated she was one of the top finishers in the Miss Colombia competition. However the picture showed a girl at what looked like a small, local beauty contest, which are frequently put on at bars or local festivals. ...[/QUOTE]I usually take it as a grain of salt. At least it is still a pageant, right? Members use words like model a lot and I just treat them like similar situation and it means they think the girl is hot.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692253]So many guys on this site wanted to date her after I mentioned her she changed her handle on the site to Theycallmequeen.[/QUOTE]Dude you can post a picture of a literal mop head here and many guys would want to date it. That is not saying much. You know how many mfs ask for contact info for chicks they have never seen based only on someone's written report? If she is fucking, then they want the phone number.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692262]Nounce, you have done SBs and WGs. A ho can be a better fuck than a SB, but when you find a good SB and get comfortable, it is like better than what 99% of the hos.[/QUOTE]So once again it would stand to reason that if one found a good woman that is neither ho nor sugar baby and get comfortable then it would be 198% better than the hoes and 99% better than the sugar baby. So why stop with the sugar baby? Or is my rationale off and the non-paid woman is even under the ho? Not understanding why you refuse to include them in these scenarios of the best sex.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692262]I asked myself why I saw women and spend the money I do, and it is to feel better. With this girl, it is off the chain. She does all she can to make me feel better. She calls me every night, texts me every day, and would literally do anything for me. [/QUOTE]I totally get it now. You are not used to getting attention from chicks and she strokes your ego. You know how many chicks that I don't have to pay try to call me every night (I never answer) and send me messages every morning asking how I slept. I wish they would fucking stop, but I guess it makes the next guy feel $500 worth of special.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2692329]I usually take it as a grain of salt. At least it is still a pageant, right? Members use words like model a lot and I just treat them like similar situation and it means they think the girl is hot.[/QUOTE]Somebody in a facebook group asked something about instagram models. So I asked what exactly is an instagram model. And some lady answered saying someone that takes a bunch of pictures and puts them online. And that is all I have ever known them to be. A broad with a camera and no qualifications.

I don't get guys groveling all over chicks just because they are pretty and took a picture on a boat. Nothing about that makes me want to give a chick $500. Maybe if there was a picture of her building a boat, I would be impressed. I do not care how pretty a chick is, if she is as dumb as a post then fuck this shit I am out. I need smart and resourceful with my pretty. Some guys don't mind having a chick that was the first one picked for the ho stroll but the last one picked for the class roll.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2692195]No one could make Osteo's point any better than you just did. We are all different and our tastes are subjectively different too. I'm an older guy that likes flacas with gorgeous faces.

All of those girls made the grade. The one with the ass was a rare exception (for me) but she has stunning good looks, larger natural breasts and not a single tattoo and no kids. All the rest are flacas with very beautiful faces. That is how I roll.

Perhaps, like a fellow extranjero friend, you prefer the women with more curves and larger breasts. If so, the girls in my collection would fall a point or two. If you like the hard-body athletic types, my collection would go up on some and down on others.

All of which confirms the accuracy of Osteo's post. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My 8's and 9's are your 6's and 7's (of course it isn't exactly a fair comparison because due to promises I made, I can't show their faces and front side).[/QUOTE]Correct me if I am wrong, I am too lazy to go back and re-read his post, but wasn't he arguing to not even use a rating system because that indicates we have low self esteem or some weird shit? I didn't read it too closely. And didn't you just use a rating system? You referred to your girls as 8's and 9's? I referred to them in a range from 5's to 8's, I do prefer the thicker girls. Maybe they are 8's and 9's, I can't see the face or gage personality and performance. I also stated rating system isn't perfect, its just a quick way to gage a general idea of a girl. I would love to have a fun night with anyone one of those those girls, except the skinny sickly looking one sitting down. We all agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder to a degree. I clearly stated that in my original post. I was just arguing, to not eliminate a useful tool such as the rating system of 1-10 for reasons of simplicity, efficiency, and effectiveness. Not everyone wants to write or read a 3 page essay description of a single puta he fucked. Sometimes, a special detailed report is quite useful and entertaining to read, especially if it's from a new poster who shares new information about a certain location or source where he found a chica. Those detailed reports are useful as well.

Here is an analogy for you in the spirit of the Great JBJJB69 LOL: There are many tools in the arsenal of a carpenter, don't throw out your hammers just because you purchased a nail-gun which has a higher rate of fire, there are still times you need that hammer for certain situations, and vice-versa, you sure as hell ain't framing a house with just a hammer. Don't eliminate a tool from the toolbox, just apply its' use for the correct scenario where it will be most effective.

Now on his rant on self esteem and the weird stuff, LOL seems like he was on some good drugs when he went into that part which was pretty funny to read, but it also doesn't allow me to take his posts very seriously or him serious as a person. I will admit, sometimes his heart is in the right place trying to help spread info for other mongers to better their experiences. Other times, like when he private messages me to never post again and no likes me, it's just hysterical and weird hahaha.

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2692236]I've read more than one report claiming that Uber is illegal in Colombia. Seriously, how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe that a multi-million dollar multinational corporation would operate illegally in any country? You got to be dumb as shit. If Uber was illegal in Colombia, the government would block all access to Uber, just like the Chinese government blocks whatever Western sites they don't agree with. Secondly, Uber's board of directors would be issued arrest warrants with Interpol, and would be extradited to Colombia to stand trial by any country with an extradition treaty with Colombia. Thirdly, no Colombian bank could to business with Uber. When you open a business in a foreign country, the first thing you do is open a local bank account. How the fuck does Uber process credit card payments in Colombia if they are illegal? And how the fuck would Uber pay corporate taxes in Colombia if they are operating illegally without a license? It's called tax evasion and the charges can be felonies punishable by decades in a Colombian prison if they are anything like USA Laws. You think the millionaire Uber executives in San Francisco gave the green light to operate illegally in Colombia when it's obvious they risk serious time in Colombian prison?

The real truth about Uber in Colombia? A few years ago, they were sued by a taxi collective. The judge found in favor of the taxi collective, that Uber was operating with unfair advantages, and ordered Uber to cease operations in Colombia. Uber immediately complied because their execs didn't want to go to prison. Uber then found a loophole. Uber resumed operations a month later claiming that they are not a rideshare company, but instead a car rental company, and that the car just happened to included a driver. And since then they are operating as a car rental company, 100% legally.

All those who are writing "sit in front seat because Uber is illegal" please wake the fuck up and try to process logic with your single digit IQ brain of yours and it will be clear that there is no way in hell Uber can operate illegally in any country.[/QUOTE]People had their cars impounded. I was told to sit in the front for this reason. That was in Medellin. I did what I was asked. Put that in your bird brain.

I do not know the legal history of why, what, or when. And at that point it did not matter. If that has changed, great.

And here is another bit of news. The word "illegal" applies to being in contravention of law, not just criminal law. Uber has operated illegally in many many places, and their executives are not likely to be in danger of international extradition.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2692245]By the same token the Marquis de Twat posted Medellin vacation pics, though it turned out they were 9 years old and ripped from a gringa blog, so the existence of "pics" often doesn't prove anything. And since Elvira posted pics of his other "10's," then why not this one? I don't follow you there.[/QUOTE]I didn't rip shit, not everyone is a dishonest thief / grifter and ex con like your white trash cracker ass.

I googled images for gondolas for Parque Arvi to show the windows, the admin didn't even post all the fotos I uploaded.

So take your passive aggressive random pop shots and stick them up your Florida DOC stretched out culo LMAO.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692262]You have to show yourself that you are all in with her because she has so many other offers. [/QUOTE]Simping 101.

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2692236] Seriously, how fucking stupid do you have to be . . . You got to be dumb as shit.[/QUOTE]Your one and only post I have ever noticed from you and that gets you instantly on my Ignore List. You have that special combination of ignorance, insulting behavior, and misinformation that shows you really aren't worth a passing glance. Maybe you had a bad day and didn't eat your Wheaties that morning, but your pointless tirade was so long and obsessive that I am comfortable Ignoring you for the foreseeable future. Please feel free to return the favor and put me on your Ignore List. Geez. Lighten up. That's how people get cancer and brain tumors, walking around with your kind of negativity.

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2692236]I've read more than one report claiming that Uber is illegal in Colombia. Seriously, how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe that a multi-million dollar multinational corporation would operate illegally in any country? You got to be dumb as shit. If Uber was illegal in Colombia, the government would block all access to Uber, just like the Chinese government blocks whatever Western sites they don't agree with. Secondly, Uber's board of directors would be issued arrest warrants with Interpol, and would be extradited to Colombia to stand trial by any country with an extradition treaty with Colombia. Thirdly, no Colombian bank could to business with Uber. When you open a business in a foreign country, the first thing you do is open a local bank account. How the fuck does Uber process credit card payments in Colombia if they are illegal? And how the fuck would Uber pay corporate taxes in Colombia if they are operating illegally without a license? It's called tax evasion and the charges can be felonies punishable by decades in a Colombian prison if they are anything like USA Laws. You think the millionaire Uber executives in San Francisco gave the green light to operate illegally in Colombia when it's obvious they risk serious time in Colombian prison?.[/QUOTE]Companies operate illegally in other countries all the time, particularly with services which are new and not specifically legally banned. Airbnb is another example. There are specific requirements required in Colombia for that type of rental to be legal, but most hosts aren't in compliance. If the problem comes up is Colombia going to spend millions trying to bring a bunch of executives to stand trial, or will they just fine the host? Take all the time you need.

Uber in Medellin has always insisted I ride in front. Do I get in the more comfortable seat with more legroom, or do I scream a shitload of irrelevancies?

One time when a girl picked me up at the airport, the police stopped us and spent 15 minutes questioning her about being an Uber driver, before finally letting us go.

There were several videos online of taxi drivers throwing rocks at Uber cars and drivers, beating up Uber drivers and other things which, as a passenger, I don't want to be the target of. Now that I know, if such a thing happens, I can simply jump out, show your post to the assailants and they'll apologize.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2692195] My 8's and 9's are your 6's and 7's (of course it isn't exactly a fair comparison because due to promises I made, I can't show their faces and front side).[/QUOTE]Guys and mongerers will never stop doing it but it doesn't lessen the fact that it serves no purpose other than self perpetuation. I am not trying to change how anyone rolls but I am telling it like it is.

No one has been able to say it better than, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Numbers are used for a quick convenience that does not require much thinking, but then as soon as people start talking about "why" they assign a number, then there is very little agreement. Comical, really.

The best a random group of mongers might agree upon is that 1-3 not worth fucking; 4-6 possibly worth fucking depending on how drunk or desperate; and 7-9 generally attractive enough to fuck. Even then there are situations were nearly everyone will break their own rules. Drunk or drugged, desperately horny, no one will know if I fuck this chica, jeje.

I might be overlapping man-whoring with mongering, but a pro can fuck all numbers, doesn't mean they will, but they can. Amateurs put the most restrictions on themselves, not just numbers but all kinds of specific physical characteristics. Ass must be big or small. Same with boobs. Hair color, skin color, the list goes on and on, adding to the futility and pointlessness of trying to get mongers to agree on a beauty ranking.

I would never tell a fellow monger what it takes to get his groove on, but ask yourself who is happier? The guy with the wider tastes or the guy who is always hunting for something specific and more elusive? Who experiences more frustration?

He is happiest who is contented with the least.

BTW, you are completely correct to not show faces or identifying tattoos. Even if no promises were made, it is disrespectful and even potentially dangerous. But that is a topic for another time.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2692207]Not after the ridicule he received about the chick that was supposedly an actual beauty queen. People were saying it must have been one of those special olympics beauty contests. To me they just looked liked normal everyday women you would see walking down any Colombian street. His picture posting days ended as soon as they started.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JjBee62;2692217]In the example of the beauty pageant girl, if I remember correctly, it was stated she was one of the top finishers in the Miss Colombia competition. However the picture showed a girl at what looked like a small, local beauty contest, which are frequently put on at bars or local festivals. Instead of being ranked as one of the most beautiful women in Colombia, she appeared to just be the typical girl you'll find at any of those contests.[/QUOTE]The one thing I can know for two with you bullshit artists is that neither of you will admit you are wrong about anything.

I did not even like this girl all that much, but she had the beauty and intelligence to be a beauty queen. She runs a charity and spit out facts about Cartagena as fast as lightning.

So why all the fuss about these photos? Because you two pussies cannot handle that I dated a beauty queen. LOL.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2692421]People had their cars impounded. I was told to sit in the front for this reason. That was in Medellin. I did what I was asked. Put that in your bird brain.

I do not know the legal history of why, what, or when. And at that point it did not matter. If that has changed, great.

And here is another bit of news. The word "illegal" applies to being in contravention of law, not just criminal law. Uber has operated illegally in many many places, and their executives are not likely to be in danger of international extradition.[/QUOTE]This is the kinda shit I'm talking about. This is the difference between me and you: If an Uber driver picked me and and told me to sit in the front because Uber was knowingly operating illegally, I would do as he asked but would immediately dismiss the nonsense that he said and classify him as a dumbass. You, on the other hand, believe everything you're told, no matter how outlandish it may be, and pass on the obvious bullshit to others. Cars impounded? LOL! Bullshit stories being passed from one gullible dumbshit to another. No Uber driver has ever had their car impounded just for driving Uber in Colombia. Uber Corporation has never picked up a single rider in its entire history, anywhere in the world, while not properly licensed by local authorities. Sure, it has been determined by various courts around the world that Uber HAD been operating with illegal advantages prior to the legal ruling. But no fucking way has Uber ever continued to operate a single second without being fully licensed to do business in its respective jurisdiction. "Sit in front because Uber is operating underground illegally and unlicensed" LOL LOL LOL!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692503]So why all the fuss about these photos? Because you two pussies cannot handle that I dated a beauty queen. LOL.[/QUOTE]Dated or paid? Because there is talk in the Brazil thread now about guys going to Scandalo and taking home actual billboard models and TV personalities for pay. It is no great feat to pay a chick Elvis. Anybody with money can do it.

I have dated normal models and actresses as well, but I do not have the pageant pictures without me in them to show. Should I just pull a random one off the internet?

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2692419]Correct me if I am wrong, I am too lazy to go back and re-read his post, but wasn't he arguing to not even use a rating system because that indicates we have low self esteem or some weird shit? I didn't read it too closely. And didn't you just use a rating system? You referred to your girls as 8's and 9's? I referred to them in a range from 5's to 8's, I do prefer the thicker girls. Maybe they are 8's and 9's, I can't see the face or gage personality and performance. I also stated rating system isn't perfect, its just a quick way to gage a general idea of a girl. I would love to have a fun night with anyone one of those those girls, except the skinny sickly looking one sitting down. We all agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder to a degree. I clearly stated that in my original post. I was just arguing, to not eliminate a useful tool such as the rating system of 1-10 for reasons of simplicity, efficiency, and effectiveness. Not everyone wants to write or read a 3 page essay description of a single puta he fucked. Sometimes, a special detailed report is quite useful and entertaining to read, especially if it's from a new poster who shares new information about a certain location or source where he found a chica. Those detailed reports are useful as well.

Here is an analogy for you in the spirit of the Great JBJJB69 LOL: There are many tools in the arsenal of a carpenter, don't throw out your hammers just because you purchased a nail-gun which has a higher rate of fire, there are still times you need that hammer for certain situations, and vice-versa, you sure as hell ain't framing a house with just a hammer..[/QUOTE]You should have read his post more closely. He makes some very good points. If you start with the premise that we all have different tastes (beauty is in the eye of the beholder) then what good does a rating system like a 1-10 scale have? It may quantify my feelings but unless we have the exact same tastes it won't quantify yours. That was his point. Further, people use that scale to brag. Like Elvis does. Jajajaja my ho is a 10 and you can't get anything as good as the girl I have. Classic insecurity.

Sure I used the scale numbers in response to Elvis' pompous boast and also in reference to your comments. You like girls that are more curvy as opposed to flacas. So what I call an 8 or a 9 (for my taste and predilections) are only 6's for you because of different tastes and predilections. That is [B]exactly[/B] the point Osteo was making.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2692452]Simping 101.[/QUOTE]To add injury to injury.

She's trying to promote that cuck mentality on a mongering forum.

3rd world puta cucking 101.

And also, "how to get 3rd world putas to get their puta offspring to call you padre" LMAO.

I'm telling ya straight out of the psych ward!

This crazy mofo better not actually have a medical license LMAO.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692262]Think about what motivates you to perform. How much does money help with that? Then there is loyalty, friendship, guilt, vengeance, embarrassment, and best of all, love. In its purest form, if you love your partner, you will do anything to please them, and it is not for money but just because you want them to be happy....[/QUOTE]You don't think sex is a skill too? There is no guarantee that she can perform better than someone else more skillful just because of love. She may try the hardest but may still not be the best.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2692479]Companies operate illegally in other countries all the time, particularly with services which are new and not specifically legally banned. Airbnb is another example. There are specific requirements required in Colombia for that type of rental to be legal, but most hosts aren't in compliance. If the problem comes up is Colombia going to spend millions trying to bring a bunch of executives to stand trial, or will they just fine the host? Take all the time you need.

Uber in Medellin has always insisted I ride in front. Do I get in the more comfortable seat with more legroom, or do I scream a shitload of irrelevancies?

One time when a girl picked me up at the airport, the police stopped us and spent 15 minutes questioning her about being an Uber driver, before finally letting us go..[/QUOTE]So is that why Uber driver's in Colombia insist you sit up front? I always thought it was for their safety? Like so you don't rob them from behind or something?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2692588]You don't think sex is a skill too? There is no guarantee that she can perform better than someone else more skillful just because of love. She may try the hardest but may still not be the best.[/QUOTE]Sure, it is a skill, and to get the best, you have to start with one of the best. The question is how do you get them to perform at their best. Money alone is not going to motivate that much.

It was funny. I remember Larry Holmes in a boxing match, and he is like getting $40 million, and he is winning but not decidedly so. Then the other guy hit him in the crotch, and that is what motivated him, all that money to win and getting hit in the crotch is what motivated him. After the low blow, he destroyed the other guy.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2692432]I didn't rip shit, not everyone is a dishonest thief / grifter and ex con like your white trash cracker ass.

I googled images for gondolas for Parque Arvi to show the windows, the admin didn't even post all the fotos I uploaded.

So take your passive aggressive random pop shots and stick them up your Florida DOC stretched out culo LMAO.[/QUOTE]Was it really necessary to bring and race and politics into this issue? When you use terms like "Cracker Ass" and "White Trash" it creates further division and more extremism. White people read this and it fuels the extreme right to engage in barbaric behavior, like the misinformed misguided Americans who stormed the capital on Jan. 6TH. This extremism is what's destroying the cultural fabric of America one thread at a time. It's also leading to economic policies which encourage inflation which are passed through legislation by political representatives who are not qualified to work effectively at the positions they occupy. Think AOC on the left, a fucking dimwit bartender before she became a Congresswoman and just as sad to see on the right, a 25 year old idiot like Madison Cawthorn. Sad to see. For future reference please try to keep your bias to yourself and not use racial slurs on an open forum.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2692452]Simping 101.[/QUOTE]If some woman I'm even thinking about seeing for anything other than a paid fuck, has other offers that I have to beat, I'm telling her, take the other offer. Call me when it falls through and if I don't have any better offers I'll consider it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2692555]Dated or paid? Because there is talk in the Brazil thread now about guys going to Scandalo and taking home actual billboard models and TV personalities for pay. It is no great feat to pay a chick Elvis. Anybody with money can do it.

I have dated normal models and actresses as well, but I do not have the pageant pictures without me in them to show. Should I just pull a random one off the internet?[/QUOTE]I used to date a woman who won a tattoo contest sponsored by Bacardi at the Laughlin Run and she did it with a fake tattoo. I wish I'd have known that I had done something considered nearly impossible.

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2692525]This is the kinda shit I'm talking about. This is the difference between me and you: If an Uber driver picked me and and told me to sit in the front because Uber was knowingly operating illegally, I would do as he asked but would immediately dismiss the nonsense that he said and classify him as a dumbass. [/QUOTE]Come on man. Don't be a dummy just for the sake of being a dummy. Don't say it is not true because you FEEL it is not true. At least ask around or do a quick internet search first. What does anyone have to gain by saying Uber is illegal and have someone sit in the front seat?

"Uber found a loophole in the court's ruling that quickly helped them get back in the market. Renting cars is entirely legal, and Uber came up with a new business model that allowed users to rent a vehicle with a driver. The court decision was soon overturned, [B]but Uber remains illegal.[/B] Its drivers ask passengers to take the front seat to avoid unwanted attention from the police, which could result in fines and / or having their vehicles confiscated. ".

[URL]https://consumerchoicecenter.org/colombias-uber-ban-is-protectionist-and-ignores-consumers/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2692622]If some woman I'm even thinking about seeing for anything other than a paid fuck, has other offers that I have to beat, I'm telling her, take the other offer. Call me when it falls through and if I don't have any better offers I'll consider it.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I was just out with a woman in Bogota and told her about it. She said that dude really has low self esteem. She said there is a difference between caring for someone and maintaining someone. She wants to know what kind of job his chick was up for for that kind of money so she can see if it is still available.

We went to Exito after eating so I could buy water and stuff for the airbnb. She picked up a few things too. The cashier rang mine up and I said hers too. She said no way. We almost got into a fight in the line because she refused to let me pay for her things. She paid her own taxi back and forth as well. I love women that do not sit on their ass and expect men to maintain them.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2692558]You should have read his post more closely. He makes some very good points. If you start with the premise that we all have different tastes (beauty is in the eye of the beholder) then what good does a rating system like a 1-10 scale have? It may quantify my feelings but unless we have the exact same tastes it won't quantify yours. That was his point. Further, people use that scale to brag. Like Elvis does. Jajajaja my ho is a 10 and you can't get anything as good as the girl I have. Classic insecurity.

Sure I used the scale numbers in response to Elvis' pompous boast and also in reference to your comments. You like girls that are more curvy as opposed to flacas. So what I call an 8 or a 9 (for my taste and predilections) are only 6's for you because of different tastes and predilections. That is [B]exactly[/B] the point Osteo was making.[/QUOTE]Nah reading his posts once is enough for me LOL, sorry to come off like a jerk, but his posts sometimes make me cringe. Like when he posted on the forum how he got fucked in the ass with a dildo. I can't take the guy serious. That being said, I think both of you are thinking way too hard into a non-issue and if that statement makes me look insecure, LOL well I guess that is just the cross I will have to bare. Me, "and the rest of humanity" will continue to use the 1-10 rating system.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2692622]If some woman I'm even thinking about seeing for anything other than a paid fuck, has other offers that I have to beat, I'm telling her, take the other offer. Call me when it falls through and if I don't have any better offers I'll consider it.[/QUOTE]Unless I am reading that wrong. Are you counting on the idea that the competition in Colombia is generally weak? Or you just don't like to compete.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2692622]If some woman I'm even thinking about seeing for anything other than a paid fuck, has other offers that I have to beat, I'm telling her, take the other offer. Call me when it falls through and if I don't have any better offers I'll consider it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that makes sense. You and Huacho do see the kind of women who do not have many other takers.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692606]Sure, it is a skill, and to get the best, you have to start with one of the best. The question is how do you get them to perform at their best. Money alone is not going to motivate that much...[/QUOTE]Do you mean the best in sex? Is it possible that the girl just loves to have sex, and everything else is just icing on the cake?

Do we have to continue with this ridiculous argument about how to get the best sex? Can't we go back to what this forum section is about?

COVID-19!!

Here is an analysis of the only RCTs that were performed on the COVID vaxes. And they show that the Pfizer and Moderna vaxes achieved FK all, apart from ruin the lives of billions of people:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3koKVb8SEk[/URL]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2692661]Nah reading his posts once is enough for me LOL, sorry to come off like a jerk, but his posts sometimes make me cringe. Like when he posted on the forum how he got fucked in the ass with a dildo. I can't take the guy serious. That being said, I think both of you are thinking way too hard into a non-issue and if that statement makes me look insecure, [B]LOL well I guess that is just the cross I will have to bare.[/B] Me, "and the rest of humanity" will continue to use the 1-10 rating system.[/QUOTE]I think that is great that you are going to [B]bare[/B] the cross. BTW what kind of clothes is the cross wearing? OH you meant you were going to [B]bear[/B] it. No biggie, I guess that the topic of subjectivity was a little too advanced.

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2692525]This is the kinda shit I'm talking about. This is the difference between me and you: If an Uber driver picked me and and told me to sit in the front because Uber was knowingly operating illegally, I would do as he asked but would immediately dismiss the nonsense that he said and classify him as a dumbass. You, on the other hand, believe everything you're told, no matter how outlandish it may be, and pass on the obvious bullshit to others. Cars impounded? LOL! Bullshit stories being passed from one gullible dumbshit to another. No Uber driver has ever had their car impounded just for driving Uber in Colombia. Uber Corporation has never picked up a single rider in its entire history, anywhere in the world, while not properly licensed by local authorities. Sure, it has been determined by various courts around the world that Uber HAD been operating with illegal advantages prior to the legal ruling. But no fucking way has Uber ever continued to operate a single second without being fully licensed to do business in its respective jurisdiction. "Sit in front because Uber is operating underground illegally and unlicensed" LOL LOL LOL![/QUOTE]I'm not sure which fantasy land you're living in, but it doesn't seem to have any connection to the real world. Here's what happens in the real world:

1. You pull put your phone and request an Uber. At some point the Uber shows up.

2. When you attempt to get in the back, the driver signals for you to sit in the front.

3. The driver does not start telling you that Uber is illegal in Colombia. Unless you ask why he wants you to sit in the front. The subject doesn't come up.

4. If you ask (and can understand Spanish) you will probably be told (as I was) that some of the taxi drivers cause trouble with Uber drivers.

Legal and illegal aren't things which are clearly defined and they are subject to change. When Uber began operating in Colombia, it was legal, from Uber's viewpoint, illegal from taxi driver's viewpoint and undefined by the Colombian legal system. I believe the Colombian courts have declared it legal, then illegal, then legal, then illegal, then legal. Each time the status changes, Uber legal goes to work and everything continues.

For a guy who never exaggerates and whose word is gold, you sure are full of shit. I'm going to take a wild guess that you have not talked to every Uber driver in Colombia and that you haven't a fucking clue whether or not any of them have ever had their car impounded.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2692664]Unless I am reading that wrong. Are you counting on the idea that the competition in Colombia is generally weak? Or you just don't like to compete.[/QUOTE]I'm just not into playing games. Back when I was "Norm" at the local titty bar, a dancer who didn't know me tried that on me.

"One of my regulars just came in. He always tips me a lot. I need to go sit with him. Unless you want to take me to VIP."

I told her to go see her regular, I could manage without her.

The dancers who knew me would hang out with me, even though I wasn't spending much. If one of the big spenders came in they'd say something like "I got to go. My car payment just walked through the door."

I've got no problem with spending on a girl. But if a girl tells me I've got to spend more to keep her, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Which reminds me of a story a guy told me. He claimed to have worked many years driving a garbage truck in NYC, and that all the garbage companies were mob controlled. If a restaurant wanted them to match someone else's rates, they were told to get the other company to haul their trash.

Of course (according to the story) no other company was going against the mob, leaving the restaurant with nobody to haul away the trash. By the time they got back to the original garbage company. They had to pay a lot more than before.

Without the whole "sleeping with the fishes" thing, that's my approach to paid women. If they can get paid more by someone else, good luck.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2692701]Do we have to continue with this ridiculous argument about how to get the best sex? Can't we go back to what this forum section is about?

COVID-19!!

Here is an analysis of the only RCTs that were performed on the COVID vaxes. And they show that the Pfizer and Moderna vaxes achieved FK all, apart from ruin the lives of billions of people:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3koKVb8SEk[/URL][/QUOTE]Not until the Nobel Committee starts giving awards for YouTube videos.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2692661]Nah reading his posts once is enough for me LOL, sorry to come off like a jerk, but his posts sometimes make me cringe. Like when he posted on the forum how he got fucked in the ass with a dildo. I can't take the guy serious. That being said, I think both of you are thinking way too hard into a non-issue and if that statement makes me look insecure, LOL well I guess that is just the cross I will have to bare. Me, "and the rest of humanity" will continue to use the 1-10 rating system.[/QUOTE]Well the 1-10 rating system is deeply flawed for many reasons.

Namely 2 terms.

Sour grapes and sweet lemons.

Some mongers will call their 2 a 10 and never post a foto to save their life. See sweet lemons.

And I could post a 10 that no one could ever disagree with but many would laugh and say she looks like a boy or some other dum shit. See sour grapes.

Many have very low self esteem and consequently even if you put a gun to their heads they wouldn't even waver from what I'm saying.

He got fucked in the ass with a dildo? And eating 3rd world puta anuses.

Wow and I thought JK is gay?

In closing the 1-10 system doesn't work because they won't concede to reality.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2692555]Because there is talk in the Brazil thread now about guys going to Scandalo and taking home actual billboard models and TV personalities for pay. It is no great feat to pay a chick Elvis. Anybody with money can do it.[/QUOTE]What does that have to do with anything?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2692555]I have dated normal models and actresses as well, but I do not have the pageant pictures without me in them to show.[/QUOTE]Again so what?

You two assholes said the pictures were fake, and I proved they were not. It just shows you and JJBee are pure bullshit artists. You two assholes think you have it all going on and I just showed everyone you are full of shit.

If you think it is easy to bed a beauty queen, shut your mouth and go do it. Stop with the bullshitting about how easy it is.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2692664]Unless I am reading that wrong. Are you counting on the idea that the competition in Colombia is generally weak? Or you just don't like to compete.[/QUOTE]Poor Osteo. I think you have me blocked. JJBee was caught lying and bullshitting again and then came up with this contorted post in response. He thinks he is so fucking great he does not need to compete which of course is just more bullshit.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2692711]I think that is great that you are going to [B]bare[/B] the cross. BTW what kind of clothes is the cross wearing? OH you meant you were going to [B]bear[/B] it. No biggie, I guess that the topic of subjectivity was a little too advanced.[/QUOTE]Haha touche! I just can't win sometimes with you guys. The real funny part will be in a few weeks when you are all rating girls again on the 1-10 scale LOL. It's too convenient to ever let go for good.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2692664]Unless I am reading that wrong. Are you counting on the idea that the competition in Colombia is generally weak? Or you just don't like to compete.[/QUOTE]Have you no self respect? Ooops strike that!

Who the fuck competes for 3rd world putas? Or any putas for that matter? Or any pussy?

I love my take it or leave it attitude and so do most putas except maybe the most hardened sharks.

Putas need to compete for me, and the pleasure of getting fucked by me and getting my jizz and maybe a couple cop!

[QUOTE=JustTK;2692701]Do we have to continue with this ridiculous argument about how to get the best sex? Can't we go back to what this forum section is about?

COVID-19!!

Here is an analysis of the only RCTs that were performed on the COVID vaxes. And they show that the Pfizer and Moderna vaxes achieved FK all, apart from ruin the lives of billions of people:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3koKVb8SEk[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL. JustTK, with the latest monochromatic media we have, Covid has been wiped from the headlines and now it is all Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. Of course, this is the latest marching orders where we have to spend billions or the world will end.

It is really hard to prove something prevents death and even harder when you realize how the pols dictate what is put on a death certificate. That is why death numbers so often are fake. The better metric was always whether the vaccines prevent hospitalization but even that got screwed up as people with Covid were treated the same as people who were hospitalized from Covid.

What is funny now is flying. I flew to Fort Lauderdale on an airplane maskless which was nice. Then we got to the airport. A sign said wearing masks is still required and it was ignored. Maybe one in 10 people had masks on. Then I boarded the flight to Colombia and then we had to put on the masks outside before going into the airport. Colombia has way fewer cases than the USA, so it made no sense but common sense was never a part of this whole pandemic.

The pandemic ends then not with a thud but a whimper except for all those "model" Asian countries that are now getting slammed. And just like JJBee imagined the girl I dated won a wet t-shirt contest at a dive bar versus a city wide beauty contest, all the idiotic Covid proclamations will be forgotten or altered in a more digestible format. If you are looking for an admission of being wrong from all those who fell for the Covid hoax, you can forget it.

Look at Huacho. Here is a guy who taught at universities and is completely brainless when it comes to common sense. I give him shit about cleaning counters (because the virus is not spread on surfaces) and his response was I have not done that since I got vaccinated. Does the vaccine prevent you from getting Covid? Nope, but you cannot tell him that. He is loyal to or rather enslaved by the government narrative. He's like a pathetic dog looking to have his head scratched by his government masters.

So how do you get rewarded not falling for the government bullshit? It is simple in that you bet against the chuckleheads who think all that went on did not matter by going short the market. Remember JJBee's dumb proclamation that jobs always return but lives never do, and you look at some data: low unemployment rate and stock market at an all time high and you can pat JJBee on the head for his profound wisdom. Of course, you go a little deeper and see the issues with inflation and rising interest rates and realize that all we did was buy time. The check for destroying all these businesses and putting people out of work has not been paid or rather it has with the dubious practice of printing money.

See Bill Maher's comments on the $6 trillion in programs passed by Congress: [URL]https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1520243705801674752?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet[/URL].

And that is not even counting how much the Fed printed money out of thin air and bought assets and expanded its balance sheet.

I am like Jim Rogers in the sense that I do not time markets but rather go pick up a pile of money. In this case, I have been buying SDOW, SQQQ, and SPXU which are triple shorts on the market. This is the equivalent of picking up money. That the headlines all say Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, is more of a sign things are going to hell. The government thinks if it talks war, maybe it will not be noticed our economy is headed off a cliff.

I have often seen the pussy market as a great indicator of how the world is. Pussy is the ultimate luxury item, not needed but wanted. My flight was super early in the morning so I went to a late night strip club. This was literally the first time I can ever recall having to wait outside due to the club being too full. There was not an empty seat in the club and the fools making it rain were at an all time high. The only time I can recall cash being tossed out like this was in 2000 right before the dot com crash.

So buy the ETFs I suggested. If I did not have to worry about getting the timing right, I would short the shit out of Moderna and maybe Pfizer.

You will see the same bunch of idiots who need to be tribal huddle around themselves and say that I do not what the fuck I am talking about. While the idiots stayed home fearing Covid, I went out and met the woman of my dreams, and the same will happen here. These fools never learn.

And when you do cash in, you should take Mr. E's advice. Go up to beauty queen with cash in hand and say, "I want to fuck you. How much?" and then let me know what happens. Bedding a beauty queen is easy according to him, and he has done hundreds of times.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2692685]Do you mean the best in sex? Is it possible that the girl just loves to have sex, and everything else is just icing on the cake?[/QUOTE]Nounce, she can love sex, but she can hold back. When I went on the trip with these three women in Mexico, the Colombian girl would not kiss me. I thought it was strange as we had made out like teenagers before. She sucked and fucked me like crazy on that trip and was great at it, but she would not kiss me. That is actually a tell for me a girl has a BF when she will not kiss. This girl probably is a better lover even without kissing than most women are who give all of themselves.

So to have the best sex IMO, you get a woman who is very attractive who is a 10 in bed but who has no inhibitions, and I do not think you get there unless you commit to her. As good as the sex was I had with that girl, her BF was having better.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692875]You two assholes said the pictures were fake, and I proved they were not.[/QUOTE]Pictures fake? Nobody is saying that. People are saying the pictures have nothing to do with you. Post some pics that you took yourself, not some random shit anyone can get off the internet. For all anybody else knows you could have been online and the pics were sent to you by a catfish. You have not proved shit.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2692905]Pictures fake? Nobody is saying that. People are saying the pictures have nothing to do with you. You have not proved shit.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MrEnternational;2692207]Not after the ridicule he received about the chick that was supposedly an actual beauty queen. To me they just looked liked normal everyday women you would see walking down any Colombian street.[/QUOTE]If you are trying to bullshit people maybe you should wait more than a few days before contradicting yourself.

You are so fucking stupid you cannot see the difference between a beauty queen and an everyday woman. Why should anyone listen to you when it comes to the value of woman?

All you do is bang ugly women and try to say they are equivalent to the best women, and that is what bullshit losers do.

I said that about you previously, and your own words prove it to be true. Case closed.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692899]So to have the best sex IMO, you get a woman who is very attractive who is a 10 in bed but who has no inhibitions[/QUOTE]So she lets you fuck her ass and shit on her face?

[url]https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ZpHfk943T9I[/url]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692919]If you are trying to bullshit people maybe you should wait more than a few days before contradicting yourself.[/QUOTE]Where was this contradiction you are talking about? I said 2 different things but they were not in contradiction.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692919]You are so fucking stupid you cannot see the difference between a beauty queen and an everyday woman.[/QUOTE]Who were the 10 people on the stage? Were there 10 everyday women who were contestants or 10 beauty queens? Anybody can enter into a pageant Elvis. That does not make them a beauty queen. I can enter into a chess match tomorrow. That will not make me a grand master.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2692730]If they can get paid more by someone else, good luck.[/QUOTE]Jaja at "I was Norm". That should have been my subject title here but when you put quotes in the title the auto-editor fucks it up.

Your stripper story makes sense. I would not want to be pressured into a snap decision to pay VIP rates unless I was already in the mood.

I generally agree with allowing a pair of X chromosomes to demonstrate some degree of the free will and choose to be with me instead of my having to bid for her affections. Obviously I pay fair market value, plus I don't mind paying a small premium for what I believe buys me improved perfomance.

Purrfekt Paisa (not to be confused with Purrfekt Piel) is a purrfekt example. She can get ten-times what I pay her for some of her high-priced escapades.

The first time I ever saw Purrfekt Paisa (PP) I paid her 70 mil COP because she came over uninvited as a tag-along with Scarlet, who is always looking to introduce me to new girls. I told her she would get nothing but then we had a 3-way where I did not penetrate her below the waist, so I ended up giving her 70 mil COP.

One look at Purrfekt Paisa and I knew it was simply a matter of time before she got snatched up by some high-roller. Now she routinely gets one-million just to show up. And for day and overnight trips, the sky's the limit. I'll post pics and maybe a few will appreciate her. She is one of the most phenomenal physical specimens I have ever seen if you like the tall, fashionista, model type. Her clamshell pussy is phenomenal, tight, smooth and she is always wet. Her face is every ethnic and uber-cute. My photography does not do her justice, she is long and lithe but with curves. The foto of her laying face down across the bed is the closest to how she really looks. I would give her an 8.66723. She catches me staring at her too often, jeje.

Now I pay her 150 plus taxi, if and when she is available and she never bats an eyelash. She is on the invite list for the upcoming 6-7 way at Scarlet's house. I guess we could simply say "orgy" at that point.

You could say I was "grandfathered" in at PP's introductory rate, but that is uncomfortably too accurate according to our ages, jeje. I always treated her with respect but at the same time no different from any other chica. I'm a big believe in treating all chicas the same, from the cheapest Ground Zero quickie to the "nines" of the world. I treat them with respect, honesty, humor, and even admiration without putting them on a pedestal.

The competition is very weak in Medellin, especially when you factor in the shiftless Colombian men on top the typical mongering tourists (of course, all the mongers here on this Website are stellar). Sorry if my comment about Colombian men is an offensive generalization, but my perception is that the women are the backbone of Colombia.

I guess I would say I pick my spots. I don't automatically default to not competing in every situation, but most times, yes. The other factor is these chicas invariably circle back around after they act like they are leaving me for good. I can't think of one example when a chica did not come back to me after saying the long goodbye and that she would never see me again. I have to admit, I assume it will happen because it is so common.

Ostee Out, Keep On Keepin' On. If the Cosmic Blueberry Muffin is willing I will have boots on the ground in nine days.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2692945]Where was this contradiction you are talking about? I said 2 different things but they were not in contradiction.

Who were the 10 people on the stage? Were there 10 everyday women who were contestants or 10 beauty queens? Anybody can enter into a pageant Elvis. That does not make them a beauty queen. I can enter into a chess match tomorrow. That will not make me a grand master.[/QUOTE]Mr. Emotion the time you spend writing these crazy posts, you could get a part time job and then you could afford a hot chick. Instead of being so jealous and complaining all the time. I am happy for Elvis.

, he could be a little more humble, but you guys are just so crazy. I see why he gets upset. Everyone pays, the hotter they are you usually pay more.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2692945]Who were the 10 people on the stage? Were there 10 everyday women who were contestants or 10 beauty queens? Anybody can enter into a pageant Elvis. That does not make them a beauty queen. I can enter into a chess match tomorrow. That will not make me a grand master.[/QUOTE]Not only can anybody enter, but somebody can even win and not be a beauty! I that much based on facts. You meet the winner and she has bad skin, frizzy hair, a flat ass, and on and on. It had to be the talent that got her that win I thought to myself LOL! Fucked [B]plenty[/B] hotter than her. Hell, she isn't even hot! Just because you're in a beauty pageant doesn't make you beautiful! You can even win it and not be a head turner LOL!

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2692965]Mr. Emotion the time you spend writing these crazy posts, you could get a part time job and then you could afford a hot chick. Instead of being so jealous and complaining all the time. I am happy for Elvira.[/QUOTE]There's nothing to be "happy" for as no one knows Elvis. That includes his pictures and whatever political blog hogwash he posts here. So you can suck Elvis's dick, take and swallow the cum, but at the end of the day, both of you amount to zero. Do you feel me?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2692966]...... You can even win it and not be a head turner LOL![/QUOTE]Very true and sometimes it made me wonder if they were a "head-giver" since they weren't a "head-turner".

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692896]
It is really hard to prove something prevents death and even harder when you realize how the pols dictate what is put on a death certificate. That is why death numbers so often are fake.
[/QUOTE]Ah well you see, this is why you will like this study. It ignores the cause of death. It looks at ALL-cause mortality. And it shows that Pfizer and Moderna had zero effect on all cause mortlity. The only RCTs ever done show us that.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2692943]So she lets you fuck her ass and shit on her face?

[url]https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ZpHfk943T9I[/url][/QUOTE]She's the best sex I ever had in Thailand.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2693019]Ah well you see, this is why you will like this study. It ignores the cause of death. It looks at ALL-cause mortality. And it shows that Pfizer and Moderna had zero effect on all cause mortlity. The only RCTs ever done show us that.[/QUOTE][URL]https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/mental-health/3474366-naomi-judds-death-spotlights-a-national-mental-health-crisis-worsened-by-covid-19/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2692899]...
So to have the best sex [b]IMO[/b], you get a woman who is very attractive who is a 10 in bed but who has no inhibitions, and I do not think you get there unless you commit to her...[/QUOTE]I think you emphasize 10. To me that implies the good sex is in your head, and it is not physical.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2693019]Ah well you see, this is why you will like this study. It ignores the cause of death. It looks at ALL-cause mortality. And it shows that Pfizer and Moderna had zero effect on all cause mortlity. The only RCTs ever done show us that.[/QUOTE]I read the study cited by the website and the video titled.

"Randomised clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines: do adenovirus-vector.

Vaccines have beneficial non-specific effects?

I disagree with your take on the conclusions in the study. The paper clearly states that the vaccines had an effect on Covid-19 related deaths. They also have incredibly low numbers. When you are looking at 1/21926 vs 2/21926, the numbers are so small that just +1/-1 throws it all out of whack. Look at the chart in the study discussing AstraZeneca in South America.

The effect on all-cause mortality is that the placebo has a mortality rate three times as high as the vaccine. This is accurate but then you see that the number is 1/1011 (with vaccine) vs 3/1011 (without vaccine).

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2693049]I read the study cited by the website and the video titled.
"Randomised clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines: do adenovirus-vector.
Vaccines have beneficial non-specific effects?
[/QUOTE]Then it seems you either didn't watch the video or you didn't pay attention to what I wrote. I mentioned Pfizer and Moderna. I did not mention adenovirus vaccines.

Agreed, the sample sizes are small. But these are the same RCT samples that governments decided it was a great idea to lock the entire wolrd down for 2 years. They re the only ones that we have, and they show no conclusive effect of mRNA vaccines on all-cause mortality. Watch the video, the guy explains it all very well.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2693045]I think you emphasize 10. To me that implies the good sex is in your head, and it is not physical.[/QUOTE]I had a 10.5 many times from Tuk Tik. And I didn't commit to her anymore than the 100's of other guys she fucks every year. If I loved her and committed to her. I might be less impressed by the handful of guys that visit her room every day.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2693080]Then it seems you either didn't watch the video or you didn't pay attention to what I wrote. I mentioned Pfizer and Moderna. I did not mention adenovirus vaccines.

Agreed, the sample sizes are small. But these are the same RCT samples that governments decided it was a great idea to lock the entire wolrd down for 2 years. They re the only ones that we have, and they show no conclusive effect of mRNA vaccines on all-cause mortality. Watch the video, the guy explains it all very well.[/QUOTE]Right, you didn't mention adenovirus. That was the name of the study though. The study is the one the video used and, in my opinion, purposefully mislead upon. Also not to nitpick, but most of these RCT samples are different than the samples used to base the shutdowns on.

If you look at figure1 in the study it shows that the vaccines have a strong correlation on deterring COVID-19 death. And even though it weakens my point LOL, I have to point out that even though there is a very strong effect shown it's really the difference of 5 people.

The study is a quick read if anyone wants to look:

SSRN-id4072489. Pdf.

That's the file referenced.

Even though we disagree I enjoyed the discussion and hope you have a nice night.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2693049]I read the study cited by the website and the video titled.

"Randomised clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines: do adenovirus-vector.

Vaccines have beneficial non-specific effects?

I disagree with your take on the conclusions in the study. The paper clearly states that the vaccines had an effect on Covid-19 related deaths. They also have incredibly low numbers. When you are looking at 1/21926 vs 2/21926, the numbers are so small that just +1/-1 throws it all out of whack. Look at the chart in the study discussing AstraZeneca in South America.

The effect on all-cause mortality is that the placebo has a mortality rate three times as high as the vaccine. This is accurate but then you see that the number is 1/1011 (with vaccine) vs 3/1011 (without vaccine).[/QUOTE]You'll have to forgive JustTk. He's an idiot. If it's on YouTube, that's all the proof he needs.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2693049]I disagree with your take on the conclusions in the study[/QUOTE]The paper was not designed to make the points for which the anti-vaxers are attempting to use it. The paper was specifically looking at all-cause benefits in the adenovirus-vector arm, hence the title, "Do adenovirus-vector vaccines have beneficial non-specific effects"? Although I have a feeling the authors formed the title after they analyzed their results which isn't Kosher if operating under the pure scientific method where the premise should have been based on a null hypothesis.

The authors feel they proved the benefit in their title. I can't find enough fault with their preliminary findings to say further study is not warranted.

In fact, overall the paper is a "plus" or a win for supporting vaccination because the adenovirus-vector arm showed a clear, statistically significant reduction in all-cause mortality.

The Original Poster (OP) commits one of the classic, all-time pitfalls when he poses an argument or evidence that actually supports the opposite viewpoint. Comical, really, and I never cease to be amazed at this how common this intellectual blunder occurs.

You are correct to point out that the death numbers are very small which makes all conclusions suspect, especially considering that data collection was taken from multiple trials with different methodologies, one of the inherent weaknesses in all Review Papers. Did you notice the authors resorted to calling the authors of the original papers to figure out who died from what? While I admire that tenacity, that speaks volumes to the tenuous nature of the data.

That there was not a reduction in overall mortality in the mRNA arm of the study (code for Pfizer and Moderna) is not a surprise. The majority of the individuals in the trials were healthy volunteers. In real-life, COVID-19 vaccines are administered to highly vulnerable populations with high COVID-19-dependent mortalities. The "real world" outcomes are probably significantly different, and I expect would show such a reduction.

In spite of these limitations, the authors concluded that all the vaccines, including Pfizer and Moderna were associated with a lower risk of Covid-19 death, a point that seems to have been lost by the anti-vaxers.

No matter what side of the fence you are on, it only hurts your cause when you take an original scientific research paper that shows the opposite of your beliefs, and then try to co-opt and warp the results to support your viewpoint. That is intellectual laziness caused my emotional zealousness, and creates an instant loss of credibility.

I will not respond to any additional additional posts about this unless by some minor miracle, someone here for the first time has something more advanced to say compared to the sum total of all the prior posts here on Covid. I don't even know why I submit myself to this extra energy other than I think it's intellectual heresy to make the kind of uninformed conclusions the OP made from this paper.

DontSayMuch ShouldSayMore because he is the first person I have seen her in a long time who knows how to think critically without an obvious unfounded bias.

I have no axe to grind. Everything I have predicted about Covid so far has come true. The vaccines are medically becoming a moot point, and all restrictions are easing up. Let's hope a new more virulent strain doesn't pop up somewhere.

Don't try to engage me on these issues. I will not choose to waste my time like that. This post is just about the paper and its misinterpretation.

If I were one of the original journal reviewers who decided whether or not the paper gets published, which was one of the many hats I wore, I would have said the paper was in need of a major rewrite and reorganization before publication.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2693045]I think you emphasize 10. To me that implies the good sex is in your head, and it is not physical.[/QUOTE]There's no evidence that this Elvis twerp has ever been to Colombia, much less had a ten, has anyone met the guy? I've asked this before I know, no response.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2693080]Then it seems you either didn't watch the video or you didn't pay attention to what I wrote.[/QUOTE]For anyone that is interested in the subject (ii. E. Anyone that is not overwhelmingly consumed by cognitive dissonance that the last thing they want to doscuss this days is COVID), here is an excellent discusson on this very study:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_nKoybyMGg[/URL]

Very fair and balance views expressed. Interesting to anyone that seeks the truth.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2693197]For anyone that is interested in the subject (ii. E. Anyone that is not overwhelmingly consumed by cognitive dissonance that the last thing they want to doscuss this days is COVID), here is an excellent discusson on this very study:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_nKoybyMGg[/URL]

Very fair and balance views expressed. Interesting to anyone that seeks the truth.[/QUOTE]And once again, biased YouTube videos, geared towards idiots, serve no purpose except to highlight the stupidity of the idiots who post links to YouTube videos.

If you want to learn how to replace the cabin air filter on your 2009 Chevrolet, go to YouTube. If you want to watch videos of guys getting hit in the gonads, go to YouTube.

If you want to discuss complex scientific studies, go directly to the studies. Anything you find on YouTube is either biased and misleading, completely incorrect or dumbed down to toddler level. Unless you're only able to handle scientific research at a 4 year old level, you're intentionally attempting to push biased, misleading and often totally incorrect material.

Considering you're the one who complained about the days getting too short, I'm going with both 4 year old mentality and biased and misleading.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2693086]most of these RCT samples are different than the samples used to base the shutdowns on.

Even though we disagree I enjoyed the discussion and hope you have a nice night.[/QUOTE]Thats fine. I enjoy a friendly back and forth. These are the same studies. They are the only ones that exist. Watch the video I posted today for another interpretation.

What I find frustrating are the blinkered people that label all analysts as anti vaccers unless they sign and dance along w the govt line. It shows how inept their position is.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2692989]There's nothing to be "happy" for as no one knows Elvis. That includes his pictures and whatever political blog hogwash he posts here. So you can suck Elvis's dick, take and swallow the cum, but at the end of the day, both of you amount to zero. Do you feel me?[/QUOTE]Thanks for proving my point. We have both been to Colombia. I can not speak for Elvis, bit o hated every minute I was there.

Also if you get a part time job, you will have more money and you will probably be happier and less liberal.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2693308]Thanks for proving my point. We have both been to Colombia. I can not speak for Elvis, bit o hated every minute I was there.

Also if you get a part time job, you will have more money and you will probably be happier and less liberal.[/QUOTE]You are a little Russo sympathizing twerp that pretends that Mexico is better that Colombia but have likely never been to either country, just like your top the Marquis de Twat. Get out of mom's basement, travel a bit then maybe you'll have a bit to share here. We couldn't care less about your wingnut blogs.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2693391]You are a little Russo sympathizing twerp that pretends that Mexico is better that Colombia but have likely never been to either country, just like your top the Marquis de Twat. Get out of mom's basement, travel a bit then maybe you'll have a bit to share here. We couldn't care less about your wingnut blogs.[/QUOTE]You are correct about one thing, I wish I would have never went to Colombia. Colombia girls contact me instant block.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2693237]And once again, biased YouTube videos, geared towards idiots, serve no purpose except to highlight the stupidity of the idiots who post links to YouTube videos.

If you want to learn how to replace the cabin air filter on your 2009 Chevrolet, go to YouTube. If you want to watch videos of guys getting hit in the gonads, go to YouTube.

If you want to discuss complex scientific studies, go directly to the studies. Anything you find on YouTube is either biased and misleading, completely incorrect or dumbed down to toddler level. Unless you're only able to handle scientific research at a 4 year old level, you're intentionally attempting to push biased, misleading and often totally incorrect material.

Considering you're the one who complained about the days getting too short, I'm going with both 4 year old mentality and biased and misleading.[/QUOTE]Unheard, "The youtube Channel" is not geared toward idiots, yes it is an anti-vaccine biased channel to a degree, but it's a very necessary evil which intelligently plays devil's advocate to the mainstream narrative. I think it's very negligent to not question or look into any negative possible side effects from these new vaccines or any vaccines. That type of blind loyalty does not lead to the healthiest possible society. I think you show extreme bias by labeling anyone who wants to speak about any possible negative side effects about the vaccines as an "idiot" or someone who has the intelligence of a "4 year old".

Attempting to educate the public on viruses and vaccines is going to be very important for the health of our societies going forward, especially when considering the exponential growth of the human species which is going to inevitably lead to more strains of severe viruses, and more importantly we can gain a deeper understanding of how to better deal with the consequences, containment, and treatment of these new viruses. People lead busy lives and youtube / twitter / facebook / social media are incredibly valuable tools we can utilize to educate the public quickly and effectively on these new important issues. We can't dismiss a source simply because it doesn't follow the narrative the big pharma companies in coordination with the mainstream media are constantly preaching to society, which I suspect is tied to profits for the companies who are profiting from the vaccines and endless boosters coming out which don't seem to be so effective or prevent transmission.

We desperately need to put our political bias aside and eliminate the blind loyalty many extremists have to their political parties. I am extremely upset to see the party I tend to agree with on most issues has opened the debate to overturn Roe vs Wade. In my opinion, this was a dead issue for many and there are much more important problems we need to solve first before considering reopening the can of worms around the legality of abortion. Personally I am in full support of legal abortion very late in pregnancy in most scenarios. I also think fixing the nation's inflation, affordable energy independence, fixing the immigration system, liberating Ukraine and defending democracy, and securing the border from the drug cartels who control it are much more important issues.

I am also overall optimistic about Elon Musk buying Twitter due to my views that twitter was very biased towards conservatives and I have seen evidence they were suppressing and eliminating the speech of many conservatives, however I am very concerned how just one person can purchase an entire Corporation like twitter and then run it and wield it's power to his will. I am not exactly sure giving one person that much power and influence is such a good thing.

My main point is I don't just blindly agree with whatever the conservative narrative tells me to think and I analyze all issues separately before I take a very humble opinion on them and I think more people who take a similar stance could create a more cohesive less toxic American society.

And most importantly, the host of "Unheard" has an Elitist British Accent and those types of people are always the smartest and never lie haha, jk. Hopefully all humor is not lost on such subjects.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2693410]You are correct about one thing, I wish I would have never went to Colombia. Colombia girls contact me instant block.[/QUOTE]DF,

There are these Democrat blowhards like Paulie who criticize anyone who posts Republican leaning talking points. You had the audacity to say in Ukraine everyone loses, and you are right. The only narrative acceptable to these dumb Dems is Putin is evil and we need to spend trillions to defend Ukraine.

I am in Colombia right now. My gal just made me breakfast, and we continue to make magic in the bedroom. Life is good.

With the pandemic and travel ban, there was this brief period of time where some of the best of the best women in Mexico and Colombia came available. The beauty queen was one of those types. She was the total package but she had an abrasive personality. She was young and immature and I do not think she had been out on that many dates. She had that crazy cockiness you said that Colombian women possess.

People do not get how bleak and depressed things were in Colombia with the travel ban and Covid. It was horrible, and I played myself as being this light in the darkness.

I met my current gal on my second trip down to Colombia after the pandemic. If not for the pandemic, she would not have been available.

That said, I know what you meant. I did date a few of the upper echelon women through seeking but I also saw the egotistical hucksters and ugly women you did, and Medellin was the worst for that.

Yeah, you would think people would want to learn right? Who does not want to meet and date a beauty queen?

Paulie is so hopeless I have him on ignore. Every post is either his slamming someone or kissing ass. He was in his mom's basement scared of the Crony virus while telling the world what to do with it while we are out using common sense and living it up.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2693410]You are correct about one thing, I wish I would have never went to Colombia. Colombia girls contact me instant block.[/QUOTE]I don't think you've ever been as the information you report is so inaccurate. You are about as genuine as the Marquis de Twat with his Medellin pics ripped off a gringa vacation blog and reports of super high fat content in the beef. About all we can count on from you is free drama while supporting the Russians as they blow up maternity wards and gun down seniors riding their bicycles. Enjoy your basement air.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2693416]I am also overall optimistic about Elon Musk buying Twitter due to my views that twitter was very biased towards conservatives and I have seen evidence they were suppressing and eliminating the speech of many conservatives[/QUOTE]You aren't a "conservative." Get a bit of education and study respectable men like Reagan and the Bushes. You are a conspiracy theory chasing loon in the vein of Newsmax, Tucker Carlson, and other silliness. Lies is the word for it, and at it's worst is subversive and criminal. No calls to hang the VP and the speaker of the house are not protected speech.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2693410]You are correct about one thing, [B]I wish I would have never went to Colombia[/B]. Colombia girls contact me instant block.[/QUOTE]Oddly enough most of the expats living here and most Colombians also wish you had never [B]gone[/B] to Colombia. If you can't score up some beautiful women here in Colombia.

Well it isn't the Country's fault. You might want to look in the mirror.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2693732]Oddly enough most of the expats living here and most Colombians also wish you had never [B]gone[/B] to Colombia. If you can't score up some beautiful women here in Colombia.

Well it isn't the Country's fault. You might want to look in the mirror.[/QUOTE]He's never been. He might have crossed the border into Mexico but I doubt even that as it's too far away from his momma's apron strings.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2693569]..Paulie is so hopeless I have him on ignore. Every post is either his slamming someone or kissing ass. He was in his mom's basement scared of the Crony virus while telling the world what to do with it while we are out using common sense and living it up.[/QUOTE]DF basically constantly shits where you eat and you can still find common ground with him. Why can't you do the same with Paulie?

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2693705]You aren't a "conservative." Get a bit of education and study respectable men like Reagan and the Bushes. You are a conspiracy theory chasing loon in the vein of Newsmax, Tucker Carlson, and other silliness. Lies is the word for it, and at it's worst is subversive and criminal. No calls to hang the VP and the speaker of the house are not protected speech.[/QUOTE]Haha and for anyone who reads this forum, they can clearly see you are a troll. I never even referred to myself as a conservative although I tend to agree with most of their views these days. Please show some evidence which points to the fact that I believe in conspiracy theories? Just show one piece of evidence, that's all I ask. You won't be able to and you will just resort to attacking my sanity instead of engaging in a civil discussion which was the whole point of the post I wrote. "Extremists" like you are destroying the country.

I can tell from reading your posts that you have lost the ability to put yourself in other people's shoes and look at things from their perspective. You have lost this ability most likely due to losing in life and you view yourself as failure because society doesn't notice you and you have become irrelevant. This failure has desensitized you and limited your emotional and cognitive abilities. I have noticed this about many extremists on both the left and the right. They can only follow the heard like a sheep because the only emotion that resonates with them anymore are the "trigger alarms" from their political parties. Of course I haven't met you in real life and I can't claim that is 100% accurate for you personally, but as I stated, I have noticed this in many people who are far left or far right.

Clearly Television shows on FoxNews and CNN are incredibly biased, but this is 100% apparent and everyone knows it is their job to defend and argue the stance of the political party they represent. They are "Talking Heads" and nothing more. "Unheard" presents a much more balanced argument in the form of a discussion and allows the viewer to view the information they present and then make up their own mind. This is very different from the formats of shows like Tucker Carlson and Don lemon or Rachel Maddow. Those shows frequently resort to mud-racking, slander, taking talking points out context, etc to justify the policies they support.

You have also entered into territory which just makes me lose all respect for you. You actually suggested that George W. Bush was a "respectable" President or man or conservative. Are you American? You must be from another country because George W. Bush was a horrific President. How he handled the terrorist attack on 9/11 and the suspected nuclear weapons in the middle east was a complete and total disaster and failure. His policies and the trillions he spent on the war in the middle east were a total fucking waste, not to mention the millions of innocent lives destroyed by the United States military. The consequences of the war in Afghanistan will reverberate through generations. The people of that nation are now ruled by warlords who will torture, kill, and even rape their political opposition. A truly horrific scenario which should have never occurred. Many would argue it also greatly contributed to the financial crisis of 2008. There isn't a single thing he accomplished policy wise that you can point to and be proud of as an American. His foreign wars painted Americans as warmongers who are lead by greed rather than morality. He was also blind to the rising power of China and it was under his administration and prior administrations that millions of American jobs in manufacturing were transferred overseas and the creation of the rust belt and hundreds of thousands of unemployed Americans. He was also incredibly un-charismatic and a terrible public speaker who often made himself look like a fool. He handed the Presidency on a silver plater to Obama, even though John McCain was vastly more qualified. Many would argue McCain would have been much more effective than Obama in many aspects. The only reason he was elected is because his father was President of the United States during Desert Storm which was a justified war and total success. Due to the coalition of nations which was formed to defeat Sadam / Iraq also strengthened the reputation of the United States as a Noble Super Power not to be fucked with and further galvanized our global alliances. This was all diminished during the George W. Bush Administration as he fought a costly and pointless war.

Bottom Line: You are acting like a troll and I hope you find some balance in your views and your heart. You have also made yourself look like a fool by trying to justify the George W. Bush Presidency as even remotely effective at any of the policies they implemented during his administration. Dick Cheney is evil and Reagan should have been made king LOL!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2693760]DF basically constantly shits where you eat and you can still find common ground with him. Why can't you do the same with Paulie?[/QUOTE]I've been "living it up," was in Colombia all of September and October of last year plus January and February of this year. I have a regular rotation of girls that all take cream pies with a smile. But I have my shots, wear masks in some circumstances, realize risks and don't spread lies online like some twerps that have no patience. Pandemics happen, have since the beginning of recorded history and typically last two to three years. Patience is all that has been needed, not goofy conspiracy theories. Thanks for your contributions Nounce. They are typically useful.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2693416] the debate to overturn Roe vs Wade. In my opinion, this was a dead issue [/QUOTE]Abortion as a "dead" issue. Ja ja. But yeah, and then ban the morning after pill, and go to heaven. There aren't any hookers in heaven except for Mary What's Her Name so why go there? Anyone who is against abortion has a very simple solution: don't have an abortion. What anyone else does is none of anybody else's business. I fail to see why this continues to be an issue.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2693569]I met my current gal on my second trip down to Colombia after the pandemic. If not for the pandemic, she would not have been available.[/QUOTE]So she wasn't a ho before the pandemic hit? Or she was a ho but not a desperate ho? Or she raised her weight limit during the pandemic?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2693760]you can still find common ground with him. Why can't you do the same with Paulie?[/QUOTE]I called you out once before for being too magnanimous. Will you please despise someone? I will volunteer for the position if I can just get you to say something bad about someone here. Gawd knows, there's no shortage of eligible candidates.

I try to generally follow suit and ignore or not engage the trolls, but you take it to another level. You actively try to make peace. You're really starting to bug me.

You are too comfortable and that annoys me but I don't know why, jajaja.

Jajajajaja, Ostee Out and Keep On Keepin' On like you always do. If everyone did, the world would be a better place.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2693705]You aren't a "conservative." Get a bit of education and study respectable men like Reagan and the Bushes. You are a conspiracy theory chasing loon in the vein of Newsmax, Tucker Carlson, and other silliness. Lies is the word for it, and at it's worst is subversive and criminal. No calls to hang the VP and the speaker of the house are not protected speech.[/QUOTE]Elon Musk is one of the most intelligent and innovative men to ever exist: Fact.

Single handedly solved our nation's addiction to the gas engine and oil by revolutionizing the design of electric automobiles: Fact.

Out designed Rocket Ships better than fucking NASA: Fact.

Became the richest fucking man on the Planet: Fact.

Elon decides Twitter is biased and is not upholding the true values of Free Speech and puts up 44 Billion of his own money to buy Twitter in order to restore balance to politics. Personally for me anyway, when I witness a man as successful and intelligent as Elon Musk state there is not only evidence to support the fact that Twitter suppresses Free Speech / Conservative Policies, but actually buys the fucking company, that's enough justification for me state that there is evidence that Twitter is biased and suppresses the voice of conservatives. At that point, no one should be labeled a whack job conspiracy chaser for saying Twitter may be suppressing free speech. I never said that Twitter actually did that or I have direct evidence of it, but certainly the discussion of the extent of how biased Twitter has become is justified. Healthy societies should be able to have these discussions without attacking each other and labeling them racist bigots as liberal media has now done to Elon Musk. They are opening claiming he trying to bring back the policies of South African Apartheid. To me, that's vile unnecessary mud-racking.

When Trump won his election in 2016, there was a massive investigation and media campaign which accused him of conspiring with Russia to steal the Election. Republicans allowed a comprehensive government led investigation into whether there were any truth to these claims. I personally never believed he did conspire with Russia, but I was happy there was a very formal investigation which proved he had won the election fairly. Healthy cooperative dissent, checks and balances, separation of powers, free speech- these are the fundamentals which America was founded on and so many nations around the world have modeled their governments on as well. We shouldn't lose these values and silence any opposition just because it goes against profits for a company or a campaign for an election. Just because someone wants to find out the extent of the side effects from a vaccine or exactly how effective a vaccine is to gain a greater understanding for the next time there is a Pandemic, that person shouldn't be labeled a conspiracy chasing loon.

Now if someone is tweeting to hang certain politicians, obviously that type of speech is not protected and I have seen no evidence that Elon Musk would allow such speech or any type of true racist hate speech. Both for white conservatives or black liberals. All forms of racism should be banned from twitter to keep a healthy balance. I think Elon Musk has a proven track record of success at solving complicated problems and he deserves a chance to see if he can create a better Twitter for society without being labeled a racist villain. And as I said before, I am not 100% on this just because I never like the idea of one person wielding too much power and influence, especially when the influence has been bought and not won in a democratic election.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2693732]Oddly enough most of the expats living here and most Colombians also wish you had never [B]gone[/B] to Colombia. If you can't score up some beautiful women here in Colombia.

Well it isn't the Country's fault. You might want to look in the mirror.[/QUOTE]He's never been, doesn't have the $ to go. He's too busy reading online and sucking up to Putin. No matter how you want to roll you can get your game on in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2693732]Oddly enough most of the expats living here and most Colombians also wish you had never [B]gone[/B] to Colombia. If you can't score up some beautiful women here in Colombia.

Well it isn't the Country's fault. You might want to look in the mirror.[/QUOTE]Nope, MDE is definitely not for me, I have standards.

I do agree there are some beautiful girls in Colombia, but skinny girls are not that easy to find, especially in MDE. Thick and curvy is the style, sorry the truth hurts.

There are a couple of guys that have posted some pictures of some beautiful girls, but I did not see a lot of those girls when I was there. I give those guys credit.

I am sure I would be way more attracted to the girls in Bogota.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2693773]Abortion as a "dead" issue. Ja ja. But yeah, and then ban the morning after pill, and go to heaven. There aren't any hookers in heaven except for Mary What's Her Name so why go there? Anyone who is against abortion has a very simple solution: don't have an abortion. What anyone else does is none of anybody else's business. I fail to see why this continues to be an issue.[/QUOTE]He spends all of his time worrying about what other people do.

First he was worried that people didn't make charitable contributions. Then he was bothered because I do. Then he admitted he doesn't make any charitable contributions. After that he got all upset because JustTK had a trannie. On and on, he got all panicked because one trans woman swimmer won 1 event and started crying about how unfair it was to other women.

Then his panties got all in a bunch because Osteo got himself pegged. Got to figure he's going to start screaming when he finds out anyone is doing anything without his prior approval.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2693928]Nope, MDE is definitely not for me, I have standards.

I do agree there are some beautiful girls in Colombia, but skinny girls are not that easy to find, especially in MDE. Thick and curvy is the style, sorry the truth hurts.

There are a couple of guys that have posted some pictures of some beautiful girls, but I did not see a lot of those girls when I was there. I give those guys credit.

I am sure I would be way more attracted to the girls in Bogota.[/QUOTE]Just my opinion, and I've spent less than a month in Bogota, but I find the women in Medellin to be in better shape and more slender than the women in Bogota. It's the terrain. Bogota sits on a plateau, Medellin is a series of valleys. The poorer you are, the higher up you live. That means climbing steep hills, often carrying groceries. Strong legs and well defined glutes are the norm here.

I've never had any problem finding slim, all natural girls in either city. I use a simple scale. I'm 60 years old and out of shape. If the girl is too heavy for me to pick her up while fucking, stand up and walk around the room, then she's too big. I've only run into that once in Medellin and she was pretty tall.

Now, if you're talking anorexic skinny, I know of a few, but they are definitely more difficult to find.

I think it's already been said. If you can't find a beautiful woman (to you) in Medellin, either you're not looking for women, or there's something seriously wrong with you.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2693928]Nope, MDE is definitely not for me, I have standards.

I do agree there are some beautiful girls in Colombia,[B] but skinny girls are not that easy to find, especially in MDE.[/B] Thick and curvy is the style, sorry the truth hurts.

There are a couple of guys that have posted some pictures of some beautiful girls, but I did not see a lot of those girls when I was there. I give those guys credit.

I am sure I would be way more attracted to the girls in Bogota.[/QUOTE]I'm curious what "standards" you [B] think[/B] you have. The other part about skinny girls (we call them 'flacas' or 'flacquitas' here) being hard to find is laughable. I doubt you could walk a single busy block in Medellin and not bump into at least 20. If that busy block is Avenida Poblado or La Setenta, that number would go up 10 fold.

If you have actually visited Medellin and your complaint is that you didn't see any thin attractive girls. You must have spent the whole time in your Hotel room. I recommend you don't bother visiting Bogota either because you won't find a lot of beautiful thin girls in your hotel room there either.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2693416]Unheard, "The youtube Channel" is not geared toward idiots. And most importantly, the host of "Unheard" has an Elitist British Accent and those types of people are always the smartest and never lie haha, jk. Hopefully all humor is not lost on such subjects.[/QUOTE]As usual, I don't agree with all you say, but it is a good post and very reasonable. .

I love Unheard. The host is actually half-Swedish, believe it or not. So def no lying there. They are brave enough to host both sides of most stories. They had Douglas Murray on this week, the horrible repugnant little man. But Freddie asked him some great questions and managed to hold back his own views.

"biased YouTube videos, geared towards idiots" - comments like that just shows its own failings. "here is a program that does not hold my views. It must be baised and idiotic then!" haha. That type of ignorant and arrogant attitude is what has brought the USA to the critical divide it now finds itself at.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2693825]Single handedly solved our nation's addiction to the gas engine and oil by revolutionizing the design of electric automobiles: Fact.[/QUOTE]Where does the energy used to charge the cars come from? What about the process of making the batteries used in the cars? Fixing one problem by creating another.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2693825]Single handedly solved our nation's addiction to the gas engine and oil by revolutionizing the design of electric automobiles: Fact.[/QUOTE]Where does the energy used to charge the cars come from? What about the process of making the batteries used in the cars? Fixing one problem by creating another that you can get paid from. When cars came along people were thankful they no longer had to worry about all the shit dropped by the horses pulling buggies.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2693936]Then his panties got all in a bunch because Osteo got himself pegged. Got to figure he's going to start screaming when he finds out anyone is doing anything without his prior approval.[/QUOTE]I have so many people on my Ignore List stuff like that often escapes me. Oh well, ignorance is bliss as they say, jajaja. I don't know who you're talking about, don't care. We are surrounded by narrow-minded amateurs here and worse, comes with the territory.

Yeah, that was a unique experience that I could learn to like because the best part is, the chicas love it. Ask your girls, you will be surprised how many Colombianas walk around with this fantasy, desire really, to fuck a guy in the ass with a strap-on. I was shocked how common it was in my circle. Catgirl loves it, her only complaint was that I bought the smallest dildo they had since I was a newbie, jajajaja.

Thanks for reminding me, I need to buy another harness and dildo for the house where the girls and I will be staying. Jajajaja. Should I move up a size?

Boots on the ground, Thursday!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2694001]Where does the energy used to charge the cars come from? What about the process of making the batteries used in the cars? Fixing one problem by creating another that you can get paid from. When cars came along people were thankful they no longer had to worry about all the shit dropped by the horses pulling buggies.[/QUOTE]Many of the people pushing electric think that electricity is unlimited. Perhaps it is, but at a tremendous cost. Imagine continents totally covered with solar panels.

The amount of resources needed to construct all the solar panels, windmills, batteries, etc. Would dwarf any other usage in the industrial age. And fossil fuels are needed to refine, build, transport, etc.

Canada alone will need 90 new nuclear power plants to meet needs for electricity for the 0 carbon goal. There is not even 1 being built. And in Ontario we have spent billions on solar and wind energy, and it is not even a significant fraction of current demand. Hence need for baseload nuclear plants. None of which are being built.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2694001]Where does the energy used to charge the cars come from? What about the process of making the batteries used in the cars? Fixing one problem by creating another that you can get paid from. When cars came along people were thankful they no longer had to worry about all the shit dropped by the horses pulling buggies.[/QUOTE]To go deeper into it, yes we still generate a lot of our electricity from fossil fuels, I think around 50% off the top of my head. Shifting to electric cars is a step in the right direction though. The cheapest cleanest energy at the moment is Nuclear and many renewable energy experts would advocate we need to start producing a lot more our nation's electric from Nuclear power plants, Finland has done this and its working very well for them. Eventually, fossil fuels are going to run out, long before that it will just be flat out too expensive to purchase gasoline. We also desperately need to conserve fossil fuels to manufacture products from plastics. Not many substances can match the versatility of plastics. Also, you going to pay 10 bucks a gallon or buy an EV which gets its energy from renewable sources? And finally, the carbon emissions probably aren't great for the environment. I am not the expert of course, but if you look into it a bit, this seems to be the most logical solution.

If you have a better answer, I would love to hear it?

[QUOTE=Huacho;2693773]Abortion as a "dead" issue. Ja ja. But yeah, and then ban the morning after pill, and go to heaven. There aren't any hookers in heaven except for Mary What's Her Name so why go there? Anyone who is against abortion has a very simple solution: don't have an abortion. What anyone else does is none of anybody else's business. I fail to see why this continues to be an issue.[/QUOTE]I don't understand what exactly you are trying to say? Be more clear in your arguments please if you are going to respond to my posts.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2694008]Many of the people pushing electric think that electricity is unlimited. Perhaps it is, but at a tremendous cost. Imagine continents totally covered with solar panels.

The amount of resources needed to construct all the solar panels, windmills, batteries, etc. Would dwarf any other usage in the industrial age. And fossil fuels are needed to refine, build, transport, etc.

Canada alone will need 90 new nuclear power plants to meet needs for electricity for the 0 carbon goal. There is not even 1 being built. And in Ontario we have spent billions on solar and wind energy, and it is not even a significant fraction of current demand. Hence need for baseload nuclear plants. None of which are being built.[/QUOTE]Nuclear bro, got to develop that technology and it won't come at a greater cost than mining for fossil fuels. In a few decades we should have Nuclear Fusion technology which will produce no toxic waste, no air pollution, and produce several times more energy than the current form we have which is Nuclear fission. Again, I am not the expert and if you are really interested in it, you should look it up, it's interesting stuff.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2693936]He spends all of his time worrying about what other people do.

First he was worried that people didn't make charitable contributions. Then he was bothered because I do. Then he admitted he doesn't make any charitable contributions. After that he got all upset because JustTK had a trannie. On and on, he got all panicked because one trans woman swimmer won 1 event and started crying about how unfair it was to other women.

Then his panties got all in a bunch because Osteo got himself pegged. Got to figure he's going to start screaming when he finds out anyone is doing anything without his prior approval.[/QUOTE]HAHAHAHAHA, bro you are so off. You think I give a fuck what you do with your money? I am just letting people know you are a strange man who donates 25% of his income to fire victims in cash. That is fucking weird man. Yes, Osteo getting fucked in the ass, he is not my type of guy, personally if your constantly on drugs and fucking dozens of women and getting fucked in the ass, you clearly have some issues and I can't take your posts serious. Do I care if that's how he wants to live his life, hell no, but when he jumps in and makes fun of me, I have the right to respond. LOL he called me Ramsbutt to make fun of me and then he himself gets fucked in the ass haha. The guy is clearly a junkie sex addict. If JustTk wants to bang a trannie, god bless him as I have said many times. I think he also stated he is not into trannies but again, People who fuck with trannies are just not my type of people I would want to associate with. That's where I draw the line. Guys who fucks trannies may be great guys, but there just not my type of people to put it mildly. If a person is a tranny, again I could care less, that is their right.

Yes it is extremely unfair and insane to let a man swim and compete against women. You are 1000% wrong on that and it is something I am upset about. I cannot comprehend how that was ever allowed and my heart goes out to all the people who have to deal with that selfish asshole stealing medals from those female athletes. Does anyone else here really condone letting men compete in women's sports? WTF happened to society?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2693979]I'm curious what "standards" you [B] think[/B] you have. The other part about skinny girls (we call them 'flacas' or 'flacquitas' here) being hard to find is laughable. I doubt you could walk a single busy block in Medellin and not bump into at least 20. If that busy block is Avenida Poblado or La Setenta, that number would go up 10 fold.

If you have actually visited Medellin and your complaint is that you didn't see any thin attractive girls. You must have spent the whole time in your Hotel room. I recommend you don't bother visiting Bogota either because you won't find a lot of beautiful thin girls in your hotel room there either.[/QUOTE]My definition of skinny and hot must be much different then yours. Skinny is not how I would describe girls from MDE. Thick, Curvy, fat, fake and big asses is a much better definition. I see more hot girls in CDMX on a Good Friday, then I saw in 3 months in MDE. MDE is average or below average at best, depending on your standards.

Correct I will never return.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2693760]DF basically constantly shits where you eat and you can still find common ground with him.[/QUOTE]I am not sure what you mean by that. I have met DF in real life. We have somewhat different approaches but we both spend the money, do the work, and have helped each other to get the best women we can.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2693760]Why can't you do the same with Paulie?[/QUOTE]Because he is a liar, never admits he is wrong, kisses ass of Democrats, kicks the ass of people who are Republican, and like many Democratic douches looks at the entire world through a red-blue prism.

I will give you an example that does not even involve me. DF has been to Ukraine and Russia, and he was going to go back. I was considering going with him if he did return, and this was all before Russia invaded Ukraine. DF made the point that everyone is getting hurt in the war, and he is right. Did Paulie provide any useful information to counter this? No, he said DF had probably never been to either country and loved Putin.

Tell me, Nounce, how do you find common ground with that?

When I engage and argue with people, it is often that I am making gambles and I want to account for as many variables as I can. Some guys were not willing to go to Colombia right away after the travel ban was lifted. I made my calculations, listened to the input of others, argued my POV being open to my being wrong, decided I was right and the risks were small, and I was rewarded bigly.

So I do not care about being popular here but winning in real life.

And FWIW, the Democratic douches have been amazingly more obnoxious lately because they have so little they can defend. So while others are critical of Biden and rightly so, I am making the gamble that the stock market crashes, and I have not seen the odds this much in my favor in my life.

If Paulie provided any information that supported his POV and was worth listening to, I would engage with him, but he provides no useful information to me outside of how fucking crazy so many Democrats are.

So I have bought SDOW, SQQQ, and SPXU, and they have done really well in the last few weeks, and I will be adding TZA here soon.

When Paulie was sitting in his mom's basement at home, DF and I were out scoring stunning women. Do you see him learning anything from that and coming around and respecting and evaluating another's POV? I don't. What I bet is the funds I mentioned go through the roof, and that asshole saying I never bought them. Why would I want to deal with that shit?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2694001]Where does the energy used to charge the cars come from? What about the process of making the batteries used in the cars? Fixing one problem by creating another that you can get paid from. When cars came along people were thankful they no longer had to worry about all the shit dropped by the horses pulling buggies.[/QUOTE]And Musk didn't invent shit. He bought a company that made electric cars. The only thing he might have done is generate enough interest for all of the other car companies, which have had electric cars for at least 50 years, to dust off their designs and start producing them.

That's pretty typical for Ram. One day he's complaining that alternative energy is bringing about the collapse of civilization, the next he's claiming electric cars saved the world.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2694021]You think I give a fuck what you do with your money? I am just letting people know you are a strange man who donates 25% of his income to fire victims in cash. That is fucking weird man....[/QUOTE]I'm sorry for intruding on your [B] 'everyone is crazy but me rant' [/B]but I don't remember JjBee62 saying that his charitable contribution was in [B]cash[/B] for 25% of his income. He is allowed to make charitable contributions with possessions at fair-market value. For example, he could donate: books, clothing, cars, trucks, furniture, appliances and on and on. There are some limits on the amounts he can deduct relative to his AGI (adjusted gross income) but 25% is well within the limits of all the categories. At least that is my recollection.

I realize when he said he made contributions of 25% of his income. That you immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was all in cash. You probably weren't aware of in-kind contributions. A natural mistake for someone who has probably never given anything to anybody in his life.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2693981]As usual, I don't agree with all you say, but it is a good post and very reasonable. .

I love Unheard. The host is actually half-Swedish, believe it or not. So def no lying there. They are brave enough to host both sides of most stories. They had Douglas Murray on this week, the horrible repugnant little man. But Freddie asked him some great questions and managed to hold back his own views.

"biased YouTube videos, geared towards idiots" - comments like that just shows its own failings. "here is a program that does not hold my views. It must be baised and idiotic then!" haha. That type of ignorant and arrogant attitude is what has brought the USA to the critical divide it now finds itself at.[/QUOTE]It's ridiculously simple. I'm absolutely certain that any average child could understand it. I'm also absolutely certain you can't.

First, the description for children:

When you do your homework, you have to use a pencil. You can't use crayons. The homework you turn in has to be the homework that was assigned. If you are asked to answer "what is 5+3?" Your answer should be 8. If your answer is not 8, it will be marked wrong. Your homework will be checked by the teacher before a grade is assigned. You will not get a good grade unless you complete the homework correctly.

Now for the adults:

Every publication has a set of editorial standards applied to any submission. Even advertising must meet the standards before being accepted for publication. If you're submitting an article to People Magazine it must first pass review. It has to be pertinent to the publication. A story about how to castrate pigs, no matter how well written, won't be accepted.

Peer-reviewed publications step it up a level. Not only does the submission have to pass the review, it's then submitted for review by people who know the subject. If your data doesn't match your conclusions, if your methodology is flawed, if your references don't check out, it gets rejected. Even after it's accepted and published, the wider scientific community analyzes everything. If it survives all of that, your study is accepted and becomes the basis for further studies.

Then there's YouTube. YouTube has its community standards. When Ram videos you getting pegged by a trannie, you can't put it on YouTube, because it violates their standards. If you're promoting violence or illegal acts, it violates community standards.

However, as long as you avoid nudity, calls for violence and a few other things. You can say almost anything. Nobody is checking it for accuracy. Nobody is verifying your data. If you make a video titled "how to properly peel a banana" and the video shows someone changing their socks, it's perfectly acceptable. If someone says "I was in Tulsa, Oklahoma on Tuesday, you can claim the person was in Kingston, Jamaica, having sex with a goat. There is zero accountability.

To make it worse, whoever runs the channel can delete any comments which point out the inaccuracies in the video. So, not only is there no verification process, but there no process to identify errors or deliberate misrepresentations.

YouTube contributors aren't even accountable to advertisers. The video earns money based solely on the number of views.

If you're getting your scientific information from YouTube, then you're one of the idiots eating up the biased views.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2694021]Yes it is extremely unfair and insane to let a man swim and compete against women. You are 1000% wrong on that and it is something I am upset about. I cannot comprehend how that was ever allowed and my heart goes out to all the people who have to deal with that selfish asshole stealing medals from those female athletes. Does anyone else here really condone letting men compete in women's sports?[/QUOTE]Yes I condone this. It is simply a matter of getting what you paid for. This is what happens when you refuse to admit that double standards do exist and should exist.

You take the bad with the good. You can't just take the rights without taking the responsibilities. If you want big boy rights, you better be prepared to take on big boy responsibilities. Everybody wants freedom until it is time to literally fight for it. I did not see mfs hollering equal rights when it was time to build skyscrapers or time to go to war. They only wanted to be equal when the fun shit was being passed out.

Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it. And you may not like the biproducts or fallout from what you are asking for. You wanted to buy into the delusion that dudes can be women. Well this is what happens when dudes become women; because despite them taking hormones and putting on women's clothing, they are really still dudes and not actually women. You can not hate the player; you have to hate the game.

Go on youtube and watch some of those funny videos of guys manhandling women cops or when it is time to arrest some dude the woman cop jumps on the pile last like she is really doing something. Half the time she will just shoot the guy from the jump as happened in Minnesota and Oklahoma. If there was a police force of all women cops you think that shit would work out?

Next watch some of the videos of transsexuals kicking men's asses the way an actual female could never do. Different sexes are built for different things. America did not want to accept that despite it being plain as day. So IMHO all the selfish assholes should get all the medals and money that they can scoop up. They did not invent the game, they just learned to play it to perfection.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2694103]Yes I condone this. It is simply a matter of getting what you paid for. This is what happens when you refuse to admit that double standards do exist and should exist.

You take the bad with the good. You can't just take the rights without taking the responsibilities. If you want big boy rights, you better be prepared to take on big boy responsibilities. Everybody wants freedom until it is time to literally fight for it. I did not see mfs hollering equal rights when it was time to build skyscrapers or time to go to war. They only wanted to be equal when the fun shit was being passed out.

Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it. And you may not like the biproducts or fallout from what you are asking for. You wanted to buy into the delusion that dudes can be women. Well this is what happens when dudes become women; because despite them taking hormones and putting on women's clothing, they are really still dudes and not actually women. You can not hate the player; you have to hate the game.

Go on youtube and watch some of those funny videos of guys manhandling women cops or when it is time to arrest some dude the woman cop jumps on the pile last like she is really doing something. Half the time she will just shoot the guy from the jump as happened in Minnesota and Oklahoma. If there was a police force of all women cops you think that shit would work out?

Next watch some of the videos of transsexuals kicking men's asses the way an actual female could never do. Different sexes are built for different things. America did not want to accept that despite it being plain as day. So IMHO all the selfish assholes should get all the medals and money that they can scoop up. They did not invent the game, they just learned to play it to perfection.[/QUOTE]I don't really follow your logic? So because men are allowed to dress like women, men should be allowed to compete in women's athletics' and use their biological advantages to outcompete women and take away their scholarships in college, salaries in professional sports, and greatly limit the opportunity for women to participate in competitive sports in General? I am very lost how you are coming to this conclusion or what point you are trying to make Mr. E?

It appears you arguing that men and women are not physically equal, but because they are unequal, you condone men competing against women because politicians gave them the opportunity and so they should take advantage of it as much as possible at the expense of women because they have not contributed as much t society in terms of construction of infrastructure and serving combat roles in war? You have a very confusing post I can't quite make sense of?

You seem like a guy who is very angry at women for things they cannot control? You seem to understand how unfair it is to force women to compete against men and yet you show no concern for fairness or the rights of women?

Like I said, I am confused by your post and if I interpreted wrong I apologize, it's a unique argument I have not hear before to say the least.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2694053]I'm sorry for intruding on your [B] 'everyone is crazy but me rant' [/B]but I don't remember JjBee62 saying that his charitable contribution was in [B]cash[/B] for 25% of his income. He is allowed to make charitable contributions with possessions at fair-market value. For example, he could donate: books, clothing, cars, trucks, furniture, appliances and on and on. There are some limits on the amounts he can deduct relative to his AGI (adjusted gross income) but 25% is well within the limits of all the categories. At least that is my recollection.

I realize when he said he made contributions of 25% of his income. That you immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was all in cash. You probably weren't aware of in-kind contributions. A natural mistake for someone who has probably never given anything to anybody in his life.[/QUOTE]When did I state everyone is crazy but me? I never have, don't put words in my mouth please. Now people who advocate to let men compete in woman's sports, yea they a little whacky in my opinion.

I am going to be honest I don't exactly remember the meaningless banter that JJb69 attacked me for because I advocated that people outside of public employment should not be forced to get vaccines. I also didn't agree with the lockdowns in Austria in which he called me a deranged psycho who should never pretend to know more than the governments imposing these lockdowns even though the vaccines don't prevent transmission. He went ballistic on me and labeled my mind as a "hall of fractured mirrors" LOL, which I found incredibly funny, instead of just trying to engage in a civil intelligent debate which he knew would lose and eventually be proven wrong. Look at how they are now admitted the Johnson and Johnson vaccine was causing blood clots and they will not even administer it to certain populations anymore. He went on a rant and somehow it came up he donates money in cash to fire victims. This is what he said. Go back and look it up, I am way too lazy to do that. He is absolutely allowed to make charitable contributions and I commend for it if he actually does, but unless you are earning a large amount money, donating 25% of your income in cash to fire victims as he stated is a very weird thing to do. Personally I think he is full of shit and he probably dropped some shitty clothes and furniture off at good will store and since he has a low income and he will write it off for taxes and then try to make himself look like a hero who donates 25% of his income. They way he worded it, I think he said he just hands people cash who need it, like people who have their houses burnt down, it sounds like total bullshit to me and if he is doing things like that, its even more pathetic as it just makes him look like a sad desperate lonely old man who has to buy friends.

Most importantly, this is a waste of a post and just meaningless bickering over nothing, why don't you intelligently and civilly discuss issues that actually matter to try and find better ways to solve societies problems rather than just attack anyone who doesn't 100% agree with your political views and policies you support. I suspect as always you won't, and you will just call me crazy and argue blindly against anything I post because you are a miserable troll who doesn't actually care about finding solutions to the problems the world is facing. I am always open to a civil debate if you would like to actually have instead of how much money JBB69 donates to charity.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2694067]It's ridiculously simple. I'm absolutely certain that any average child could understand it. I'm also absolutely certain you can't.

First, the description for children:

When you do your homework, you have to use a pencil. You can't use crayons. The homework you turn in has to be the homework that was assigned. If you are asked to answer "what is 5+3?" Your answer should be 8. If your answer is not 8, it will be marked wrong. Your homework will be checked by the teacher before a grade is assigned. You will not get a good grade unless you complete the homework correctly...[/QUOTE]I and most of American have lost all respect for the editorial standards of the mainstream media. How many times have they run stories that have proven to be totally false? Kyle Rittenhouse, Nick Sandman, Trump Russia Conspiracy, Trump Impeachment with no evidence, Jussie Smollet, 95% effective vaccines and 1 million deaths after their release, The suppression of the Hunter Biden Laptop and shady business dealing in foreign nations, labeling looters and rioters burning cities down as heroic social justice protesters, the mainstream media with their ethical standards are a fucking joke. They are a biased group of charlatans who race bait and play identity politics and promise government handouts to win elections. Any day of the week, I will trust a show like "Unheard" over Don Lemon and Rachel Maddow and her fake tears.

And is it really necessary to stoop to the level of a child and claim I am video taping someone getting pegged? You just make yourself look silly and people take your posts less seriously. Journalism is dead in the USA and hopefully people like Elon Musk will restore true journalistic integrity which used to be revered in the USA for its high standards and honestly.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2694042]And Musk didn't invent shit. He bought a company that made electric cars. The only thing he might have done is generate enough interest for all of the other car companies, which have had electric cars for at least 50 years, to dust off their designs and start producing them.

That's pretty typical for Ram. One day he's complaining that alternative energy is bringing about the collapse of civilization, the next he's claiming electric cars saved the world.[/QUOTE]When did I ever say alternative energy is bring the collapse of civilization? Again, please don't act like a Jussie Smollet type liar and stick to the truth at least. As of right now my opinion is that electric cars are the healthiest, cheapest, cleanest, and most reliable source of personal transportation for the foreseeable future. It's probably also why every major manufactured in the USA is releasing more EVs onto the market every year.

Its pretty typical or you to just slander and avoid intelligent because you not capable of defending your arguments. You come off to me as an extremist who just wants to see America burn because you couldn't make it in society and you are probably just a nobody working various dead end jobs.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2694110]I don't really follow your logic? So because men are allowed to dress like women, men should be allowed to compete in women's athletics' and use their biological advantages to outcompete women and take away their scholarships in college, salaries in professional sports, and greatly limit the opportunity for women to participate in competitive sports in General?[/QUOTE]Because American society is pushing a narrative that people are whatever they feel they are. You do know it is mostly women that are pushing for men who think they are women to be seen as women right? So they are doing this to themselves and to their own detriment. Sometimes you have to let a mf learn the hard way. In these cases dudes that are not women taking the benefits and awards that actual women fought to get, is teaching them a hard lesson.

You can't fault someone for taking advantage of a loophole. When I went to court for custody of my daughter, her mom was getting angry at me for using laws or procedures that I knew about to my advantage. To her it was unfair or whatever, but I was only using the rules that existed for everyone to play by.

You can not get upset for these guys for playing by the rules that are in place. If the speed limit is posted as 65 I am not going to be mad at folks for going 65 and tell they they should really only go 55. The speed limit is set at 65, take full advantage of being able to go 65. In my state they have just made it a law that people can only participate in sports according to their sex at birth by the way.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2694016]Nuclear bro, got to develop that technology and it won't come at a greater cost than mining for fossil fuels. In a few decades we should have Nuclear Fusion technology which will produce no toxic waste, no air pollution, and produce several times more energy than the current form we have which is Nuclear fission. Again, I am not the expert and if you are really interested in it, you should look it up, it's interesting stuff.[/QUOTE]I have followed nuclear fusion for around 40 years, and it would be hard to convince me we are closer to a workable nuclear fusion option than 40 years ago.

But current nuclear technology is much improved, and I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, it just costs a lot in terms of resources, energy, and money to build these plants.

I think the handling of carbon should focus on leaning how to live with the effects that we cannot avoid, ie the last 250 years of fossil fuel use, and on sequestration and moving away where economically possible.

When I hear the masses wanting to stop the petrochemical industry tomorrow so there won't be a forest fire next year I come to the conclusion that some education is in order. But of course politics is such that the sky is falling stories get the attention. And fact checking stuff like that gets one labelled as a climate change denier. So the bullshit aspects can't be challenged by anyone.

What science and real scientists actually say (and real scientists in the field that they are speaking about) I think gets lost in the noise.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2694103]Yes I condone this. It is simply a matter of getting what you paid for. This is what happens when you refuse to admit that double standards do exist and should exist.

You take the bad with the good. You can't just take the rights without taking the responsibilities. If you want big boy rights, you better be prepared to take on big boy responsibilities. Everybody wants freedom until it is time to literally fight for it. I did not see mfs hollering equal rights when it was time to build skyscrapers or time to go to war. They only wanted to be equal when the fun shit was being passed out.

Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it. And you may not like the biproducts or fallout from what you are asking for. You wanted to buy into the delusion that dudes can be women. Well this is what happens when dudes become women; because despite them taking hormones and putting on women's clothing, they are really still dudes and not actually women. You can not hate the player; you have to hate the game..[/QUOTE]If there was a police force of all women cops you think that shit would work out?

ROTFLMMFAO.

You can not hate the player; you have to hate the game.

They did not invent the game, they just learned to play it to perfection.

They're just there getting a check, but remember males and females are equal LMAO.

They actually make us all less safe, because for every female cop there is 1 less male that might be of some value when needed.

I want to see some UFC mixed gender matches LOL.

The last thing I want is stoopid c around me with guns, they can't even drive a car or a motorbike safely (at least in Colombia 95% of the females cops I've seen don't have a gun LOL).

If they start shooting, one of us or our loved ones are more likely to be killed than what they needed to hit.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2694198]Because American society is pushing a narrative that people are whatever they feel they are. You do know it is mostly women that are pushing for men who think they are women to be seen as women right? So they are doing this to themselves and to their own detriment. Sometimes you have to let a mf learn the hard way. In these cases dudes that are not women taking the benefits and awards that actual women fought to get, is teaching them a hard lesson.

You can't fault someone for taking advantage of a loophole. When I went to court for custody of my daughter, her mom was getting angry at me for using laws or procedures that I knew about to my advantage. To her it was unfair or whatever, but I was only using the rules that existed for everyone to play by.

You can not get upset for these guys for playing by the rules that are in place. If the speed limit is posted as 65 I am not going to be mad at folks for going 65 and tell they they should really only go 55. The speed limit is set at 65, take full advantage of being able to go 65. In my state they have just made it a law that people can only participate in sports acording to their sex at birth by the way.[/QUOTE]If the speed limit is posted as 65 I am not going to be mad at folks for going 65 and tell they they should really only go 55.

Reminds me of one day on the Autobahn in a taxi, a car blew past us doing probably 150 mph in the left / passing lane and the driver starts yelling and swearing I asked him what's the problem.

He said that asshole is going too fast LOL I asked what's the limit in this area, he said there isn't one.

BTW I want to be listed as a Giraffe on my Birth Cert? Any help anyone?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2694053]I'm sorry for intruding on your [B] 'everyone is crazy but me rant' [/B]but I don't remember JjBee62 saying that his charitable contribution was in [B]cash[/B] for 25% of his income.

I realize when he said he made contributions of 25% of his income. That you immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was all in cash. You probably weren't aware of in-kind contributions. A natural mistake for someone who has probably never given anything to anybody in his life.[/QUOTE]You should look at post #3071 by JjBee62. "Last year my cash donations came up to almost 25% of my income (and none of that went to a church or other non-profit group)." Looks like you are the one who jumped to a conclusion.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2694198]Because American society is pushing a narrative that people are whatever they feel they are. You do know it is mostly women that are pushing for men who think they are women to be seen as women right? So they are doing this to themselves and to their own detriment. Sometimes you have to let a mf learn the hard way. In these cases dudes that are not women taking the benefits and awards that actual women fought to get, is teaching them a hard lesson.

You can't fault someone for taking advantage of a loophole. When I went to court for custody of my daughter, her mom was getting angry at me for using laws or procedures that I knew about to my advantage. To her it was unfair or whatever, but I was only using the rules that existed for everyone to play by..[/QUOTE]Haha I see what you are saying and there is a part of me that kind of agrees with you, but I participated and coached in a sport for a very long time and its something which hits home for me because I saw a lot guys not achieve their goals and make it to the levels they thought they were going to go. It really fucked with them and changed them a little bit by not hitting those goals as a competitive athlete. I just could never condone letting cheating men take those opportunities away female athletes and have them lose out on the dreams they have drained their whole lives for. It really pisses me off, on the other hand yes their is a large female contingent who are proponents of the policies which allow men to compete against women in the first place and there would be a degree of satisfaction I would feel to watch these she / men crush every record, win every event, and clearly prove the point that there is a fucking reason in the first place that we have men's and women's divisions. I am not that vindictive, so for me personally I'll just oppose letting men compete in women's sports. Your take on it would be funny to watch though LOL.

And on a tangent side note: Women make up 50% of our nation's work force, their tax dollars count just as much as a man's and so it's important to give them as much opportunity as possible to allow them to make the most of themselves. Our nation is also no longer based on agriculture or manufacturing as much as it is the service industry and tech industries / information processing which women maybe even have an advantage in due to their maternal instincts which allow them to achieve a higher social intelligence on average. They can more easily deal with people in a compliant effective manner in team settings and taking their ego out of the equation. I have noticed a lot of men have more difficulty with this as their ego gets in the way when they serve non-leadership roles and this leads to a less effective worker. The nation's who we are economically competing with have all realized the more money women earn and the harder they work, the stronger their nation's economy becomes and this is one of the reasons why they have embraced policies which promote women having the exact same opportunities in occupations traditionally held by men. America, to stay competitive with other leading nations, also needs to have a strong, educated, effective female work force. That doesn't mean force women into construction where they will won't be best utilized, or force them in combat roles on the battlefield when a male soldier would be more effective. It just means we have to face reality and come together to create more economic opportunities which plays to female strengths. Just my opinion and feel free to criticize as its not something based on a lot of research, just on my opinion on things I have seen in everyday life.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2694206]I have followed nuclear fusion for around 40 years, and it would be hard to convince me we are closer to a workable nuclear fusion option than 40 years ago.

But current nuclear technology is much improved, and I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, it just costs a lot in terms of resources, energy, and money to build these plants.

I think the handling of carbon should focus on leaning how to live with the effects that we cannot avoid, ie the last 250 years of fossil fuel use, and on sequestration and moving away where economically possible.

When I hear the masses wanting to stop the petrochemical industry tomorrow so there won't be a forest fire next year I come to the conclusion that some education is in order. But of course politics is such that the sky is falling stories get the attention. And fact checking stuff like that gets one labelled as a climate change denier. So the bullshit aspects can't be challenged by anyone.

What science and real scientists actually say (and real scientists in the field that they are speaking about) I think gets lost in the noise.[/QUOTE]Like I said, I am absolutely not an expert in this stuff. I actually do have a friend who is an engineer at the Nuclear Power Plant near Scranton PA. He's a very intelligent guy, spent his youth in the navy working on a nuclear submarine. He said we are close to fission technology, when you split the atoms instead of fusing them, it's a cleaner process which creates far more energy and these are the technologies we should should be investing in. He and I agree with you, We still need to use fossil fuels when necessary, but the writing is on the wall, we need to start preparing for when the scarcity of fossil fuels drives the price up so high it is no longer even remotely affordable. He was furious with Biden when they closed the construction of the oil pipeline from Canada, he said it takes 12 years to plan the construction, receive the zoning permits, allocate the funds, etc, and they had done everything every step of the way and were ready for construction and Biden due to pressure from environmental groups just called it off and wasted all the time and resources which went into planning such a massive project and would have lead to a higher degree of energy independence for the USA. I am not blind to the fact that we are still living in a society which runs off fossil fuels, I am just saying developing the technology of Electric Automobiles and the Nuclear Power plants to provide the energy seems to be the most logical thing to do at the moment. We still need to drill up all that black gold though baby! Can't let those precious dollars go to waste haha.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2694042]And Musk didn't invent shit. He bought a company that made electric cars. The only thing he might have done is generate enough interest for all of the other car companies, which have had electric cars for at least 50 years, to dust off their designs and start producing them.

That's pretty typical for Ram. One day he's complaining that alternative energy is bringing about the collapse of civilization, the next he's claiming electric cars saved the world.[/QUOTE]Guys, look I can be a dick and there really is no need to constantly be at each other's throat because we have very different views. I'll admit I was poking the bear with the JJb69 donating his money stuff and Osteo being a very complex individual when it comes to his sexuality and choice of drug use. No one is perfect, and I am the furthest thing from it.

To be fair though, I never claimed or believed that alternative energy had any negative impact on society. I would just state we need to do it as efficiently as possible while also not destroying the oil industry and hurting the American economy and workforce in the process. I was not a fan of Biden stopping the construction of the oil pipeline and wasting millions of dollars in planning and thousands of Americans losing their jobs they had lined up building the pipeline.

Elon Musk is the richest man on the Planet out of 7 billion people, he is a special unique individual with a track record of success which is rivaled by just a hand full of people in history. This is undeniable truth. I believe it shows bias to diminish his accomplishments because you are not in favor of his take over of Twitter because he has openly advocated for increasing Twitter's role in defending Free Speech. There is currently a slander campaign occurring against him where people are going all the way back to his days as a child in grade school to see if they can dig up any dirt on him to assassinate his character, just like they did to Brett Kavanaugh. I don't agree with this type of behavior, however I respectfully allow anyone to disagree and argue their point against it. Let's just keep the lies, slander, and insults out of it.

Stick to the policy.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2694206]I have followed nuclear fusion for around 40 years, and it would be hard to convince me we are closer to a workable nuclear fusion option than 40 years ago.

But current nuclear technology is much improved, and I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, it just costs a lot in terms of resources, energy, and money to build these plants.

I think the handling of carbon should focus on leaning how to live with the effects that we cannot avoid, ie the last 250 years of fossil fuel use, and on sequestration and moving away where economically possible.

When I hear the masses wanting to stop the petrochemical industry tomorrow so there won't be a forest fire next year I come to the conclusion that some education is in order. But of course politics is such that the sky is falling stories get the attention. And fact checking stuff like that gets one labelled as a climate change denier. So the bullshit aspects can't be challenged by anyone.

What science and real scientists actually say (and real scientists in the field that they are speaking about) I think gets lost in the noise.[/QUOTE]I actually am, or was, an expert on nuclear fission. There are a few big problems with it, which will never go away. First, when done right it's safer than fossil fuel power production, but done right means reducing profit margins. Then there's always the waste issue, which most people haven't a clue about. Radioactive waste with extremely long half-life isn't a problem. It's the stuff with the short half-life that's the problem.

Then there's the public relations issue, which when combined with regulations makes nuclear fission not a good investment for the bankers.

You're probably right about fusion technology. I worked with the High Energy Physics group at Sandia National Labs (just computer programming and tech support) and progress is slow.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2694271]Like I said, I am absolutely not an expert in this stuff. I actually do have a friend who is an engineer at the Nuclear Power Plant near Scranton PA. He's a very intelligent guy, spent his youth in the navy working on a nuclear submarine. He said we are close to fission technology, when you split the atoms instead of fusing them, it's a cleaner process which creates far more energy and these are the technologies we should should be investing in. He and I agree with you, We still need to use fossil fuels when necessary, but the writing is on the wall, we need to start preparing for when the scarcity of fossil fuels drives the price up so high it is no longer even remotely affordable. He was furious with Biden when they closed the construction of the oil pipeline from Canada, he said it takes 12 years to plan the construction, receive the zoning permits, allocate the funds, etc, and they had done everything every step of the way and were ready for construction and Biden due to pressure from environmental groups just called it off and wasted all the time and resources which went into planning such a massive project and would have lead to a higher degree of energy independence for the USA. I am not blind to the fact that we are still living in a society which runs off fossil fuels, I am just saying developing the technology of Electric Automobiles and the Nuclear Power plants to provide the energy seems to be the most logical thing to do at the moment. We still need to drill up all that black gold though baby! Can't let those precious dollars go to waste haha.[/QUOTE]I confused fusion with fission in this post, sorry about that, like I said, def not the expert.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2694224]You should look at post #3071 by JjBee62. "Last year my cash donations came up to almost 25% of my income (and none of that went to a church or other non-profit group)." Looks like you are the one who jumped to a conclusion.[/QUOTE]My apologies to Ram. I should have been more thorough and searched for the original comment. As Dik Luvr did. He did say "cash contributions".

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2694224]You should look at post #3071 by JjBee62. "Last year my cash donations came up to almost 25% of my income (and none of that went to a church or other non-profit group)." Looks like you are the one who jumped to a conclusion.[/QUOTE]I'm amazed at your devotion to me. I'm not going to go dig it up, but that sounds like what I would have written. Now do you believe, when pulling someone's string on this thread, that I went back, recalled everything over the previous year, dug up my tax returns, correctly remembered a whole bunch of things which there are no receipts for, or that I did what everyone else does, grab a number, throw it out and move on?

Remember, 87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

The point wasn't that I give freely where I feel it's deserved. The point was that Ram was bashing someone because he assumed they contribute nothing, then he was trying to bash me because I do contribute, when the truth, which he stated, is that he gives nothing, so was never in a position to attack someone else for doing the same.

Have fun with it. If you want some of my personal items to add to the shrine you appear to have erected in my honor, just ask.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2694303]I actually am, or was, an expert on nuclear fission. There are a few big problems with it, which will never go away. First, when done right it's safer than fossil fuel power production, but done right means reducing profit margins. Then there's always the waste issue, which most people haven't a clue about. Radioactive waste with extremely long half-life isn't a problem. It's the stuff with the short half-life that's the problem.

Then there's the public relations issue, which when combined with regulations makes nuclear fission not a good investment for the bankers.

You're probably right about fusion technology. I worked with the High Energy Physics group at Sandia National Labs (just computer programming and tech support) and progress is slow.[/QUOTE]I was told by my friend who works at the plant as an engineer that all the nuclear waste produced by Nuclear power plants since they have been running can fit inside a ware house the size of a football field or maybe football stadium. He also said less than 1% of that waste is the waste which is really harmful to humans and it will remain harmful for thousands of years. The other 99% actually isn't that harmful as long as its not in your drinking water or something along those lines. He did mention public relations was a nightmare because communities do not want to be located near Nuclear power plants, and he claimed they are 100% safe, of course we all know of three mile island and Chernoberyl so that's not 100% true. He also claimed among the renewable resources it was the most profitable.

Just curious, when you say you are an expert, what exactly qualifies you to claim you are an expert in Nuclear Fission, that seems like a very complex area to be an expert which would require very extensive academic and career credentials to qualify as an expert in?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2694307]I'm amazed at your devotion to me. I'm not going to go dig it up, but that sounds like what I would have written. Now do you believe, when pulling someone's string on this thread, that I went back, recalled everything over the previous year, dug up my tax returns, correctly remembered a whole bunch of things which there are no receipts for, or that I did what everyone else does, grab a number, throw it out and move on?

Remember, 87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

The point wasn't that I give freely where I feel it's deserved. The point was that Ram was bashing someone because he assumed they contribute nothing, then he was trying to bash me because I do contribute, when the truth, which he stated, is that he gives nothing, so was never in a position to attack someone else for doing the same.

Have fun with it. If you want some of my personal items to add to the shrine you appear to have erected in my honor, just ask.[/QUOTE]It's true, I do not donate to charity. What you have left out though, is through my employment which is a very difficult career, I contribute to my community on a daily basis and there are not many people who could perform my occupation effectively. I also stated, in my youth when I had more time and energy I often contributed in various ways to my community without any financial compensation. Now with all the bills and responsibilities that I have, I cannot afford to donate my time or money as much as I used to. Since we are on the subject, Let us clear the air, do you donate cash to fire victims? If you do, I commend you and I should have not labeled that a negative trait which you possess. If you donate 25% of you income to charity, that's a good thing that you do and I shouldn't have jumped on your case about it.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2694306]My apologies to Ram. I should have been more thorough and searched for the original comment. As Dik Luvr did. He did say "cash contributions".[/QUOTE]LOL, no you should not have because things do not need to get that serious that we are going back months to look up posts to win petty arguments, it's all good brother.

So I guess I'm an idiot because when I get off the plane at the airport and all those taxis guys start mobbing me I actually give in to them sometimes. On two occasions I've done this and both times they brought me back to an unmarked car and I'm too chickenshit to back out at that point.

The first time I got into a car with two guys and was freaking out the whole time thinking I was about to lose all my luggage and everything but instead they just convinced me to buy some overpriced weed.

The second time I did this ended up paying 50 k pesos for a 5 minute ride. It was a rip off but I was exhausted and just wanted to get into my hotel bed. The next morning I couldn't find my phone and I started freaking out until somebody knocked on my door and it the driver from last night who brought back my phone! I have him some more pesos and thanked him profusely.

I feel like if I don't smarten up I'm going to get mugged or abducted but so far the people of Colombia have not let me down.

How dangerous do you guys think it is to get into an unmarked car with a guy who isn't doing Uber or Didi? Am I lucky to be alive or am I just being paranoid?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2694198]Because American society is pushing a narrative that people are whatever they feel they are. You do know it is mostly women that are pushing for men who think they are women to be seen as women right? So they are doing this to themselves and to their own detriment. Sometimes you have to let a mf learn the hard way. In these cases dudes that are not women taking the benefits and awards that actual women fought to get, is teaching them a hard lesson.

You can't fault someone for taking advantage of a loophole. When I went to court for custody of my daughter, her mom was getting angry at me for using laws or procedures that I knew about to my advantage. To her it was unfair or whatever, but I was only using the rules that existed for everyone to play by.

You can not get upset for these guys for playing by the rules that are in place. If the speed limit is posted as 65 I am not going to be mad at folks for going 65 and tell they they should really only go 55. The speed limit is set at 65, take full advantage of being able to go 65. In my state they have just made it a law that people can only participate in sports acording to their sex at birth by the way.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to figure out where are all these trans athletes who are completely dominating their sport. There's one swimmer, who during 1 year, while still undergoing hormone therapy, was dominant. Now that the hormone therapy is complete and her testosterone levels are the same as any woman she's not even close to being the top female swimmer.

It all started 50 years ago with Renee Richard's, who, when finally allowed to compete in the US Open, as a woman, got knocked out in the first round. There is a transition period, when they still have male hormone levels, when there is an unfair advantage. However, the competition rules require them to continue hormone therapy until their testosterone level is the in the normal female range. Once that happens the advantage goes away.

Which brings up another issue. In most sports the unfair advantage comes from higher testosterone levels. There are women who, although they were born with all of the standard issue female parts, have male testosterone levels. I know of one right here in Medellin, she plays soccer and has thighs like Earl Campbell.

Sexual alignment isn't an either-or thing. Normally, during pregnancy, the embryo is not male or female until about a third of the way through. In rare cases some are born female and actually grow a penis during puberty. There are many different things which go into gender.

I'll tell you what. Show me one trans athlete who manages to dominate her sport the way Michael Phelps dominated his and I'll accept the "unfair advantage" or "taking advantage of the rules" argument.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2694198]Because American society is pushing a narrative that people are whatever they feel they are. You do know it is mostly women that are pushing for men who think they are women to be seen as women right? So they are doing this to themselves and to their own detriment. Sometimes you have to let a mf learn the hard way. In these cases dudes that are not women taking the benefits and awards that actual women fought to get, is teaching them a hard lesson.

You can't fault someone for taking advantage of a loophole. When I went to court for custody of my daughter, her mom was getting angry at me for using laws or procedures that I knew about to my advantage. To her it was unfair or whatever, but I was only using the rules that existed for everyone to play by.

You can not get upset for these guys for playing by the rules that are in place. If the speed limit is posted as 65 I am not going to be mad at folks for going 65 and tell they they should really only go 55. The speed limit is set at 65, take full advantage of being able to go 65. In my state they have just made it a law that people can only participate in sports acording to their sex at birth by the way.[/QUOTE]I did forget one thing. There was the high school wrestler in Texas, wrestling against girls, who went undefeated and won the state championship. Definitely an unfair advantage. However, because she was born female and was transitioning to male, state rules required him to compete against the girls. He, she, whatever wanted to wrestle on the boys team, but that "whatever you're born with, is what you are" thinking meant that a boy, in almost every way, was required to wrestle against girls who didn't stand a chance.

Same thing happened when I was in high school. One of the girls in my class muscled up quicker than any of the boys. She played basketball, volleyball, track and softball and was much better than any of the other girls. If they had done hormone testing back then she probably would have had male testosterone levels. Wasn't really fair to all the other girls.

[QUOTE=AboveAverage;2694387]So I guess I'm an idiot. Am I lucky to be alive?[/QUOTE]You should stick to the white airport cabs, because it's the status quo and more predictable. As I posted before I have gotten in every colored car there is from the airport but they all had some kind of paperwork or license on a clipboard, probably meaningless. I negotiate price before I get in. I have good intuition that has never let me down, but I wouldn't get into any vehicle if I felt a bad vibe.

I was going to try reserving an airport taxi thru this link posted here recently [URL]https://acoataxiaeropuerto.com.co/[/URL] that everyone agrees sounds great idea yet no one has posted yet that they actually tried it.

But when I booked my flight on CheapOAir, they included a free taxi ride which has never happened before. I had to fill in some blanks which strangely kept defaulting to the municipal Medellin airport in town, but after a few tries I have a printed invoice that lists a dude will meet me at the airport holding a card with my name on it (Church Lady, "Isn't that special?) and a free ride to the front door of my hotel. According to the paperwork, my ride will be provided by "My Transfer Group". I will report back later on that.

Nice you got your phone back. Guess that ride ended up being worth much, much more than you overpaid. Appropriate and nice of you to give the driver "some" pesos for hand-delivering your cell phone the next day at your hotel. Stay safe and Keep On Keepin' On.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2694372]It's true, I do not donate to charity. What you have left out though, is through my employment which is a very difficult career, I contribute to my community on a daily basis and there are not many people who could perform my occupation effectively..[/QUOTE]I would take issue with this, as there certainly are a whole lot of people that could perform your occupation effectively given the opportunity and the proper training. Because I mean seriously, given your political analysis, calling yourself a "conservative" when you are a cyberspace blog wingnut, we are talking about an IQ in at most the 100 range, and that's generous. You could scarf up many who are asking dollars in front of Dollar General or your "Will Work for Food" culture and they'd fit the bill. Certainly there is nothing "difficult" about your "career," that you've already admitted doesn't require higher education, nor does your confession to never donate to charity speak much to your character. As to you trying to win "petty arguments," well you dig in your heels here with the best of them typing out War and Peace, so pot calling the kettle black on that count. LOL.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2694439]I did forget one thing. There was the high school wrestler in Texas, wrestling against girls, who went undefeated and won the state championship. Definitely an unfair advantage. However, because she was born female and was transitioning to male, state rules required him to compete against the girls. He, she, whatever wanted to wrestle on the boys team, but that "whatever you're born with, is what you are" thinking meant that a boy, in almost every way, was required to wrestle against girls who didn't stand a chance.

Same thing happened when I was in high school. One of the girls in my class muscled up quicker than any of the boys. She played basketball, volleyball, track and softball and was much better than any of the other girls. If they had done hormone testing back then she probably would have had male testosterone levels. Wasn't really fair to all the other girls.[/QUOTE]You can sing and dance all you want on this one but it's plainly ridiculous as males have strength advantages, as well as less instances of injuries. Your analogy of females attempting to be male, theoretically but never actually, to male transitioning to female is a fake one. The latter is typically enjoying a lot of strength of advantages along the way while never reaching the destination (XX versus XY). Best to abandon this one and join me and most Americans in the moderate camp, as the far left is just as much of an annoyance in our society as the far right. So in the end, we have have anecdotes, quite possibly straight out of your posterior coupled with fake analogies. That's a double. Again, congratulations. Wink.

[URL]https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal[/URL]

[URL]https://fallacyinlogic.com/false-analogy-definition-and-examples/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2694457]I would take issue with this, as there certainly are a whole lot of people that could perform your occupation effectively given the opportunity and the proper training. Because I mean seriously, given your political analysis, calling yourself a "conservative" when you are a cyberspace blog wingnut, we are talking about an IQ in at most the 100 range, and that's generous. You could scarf up many who are asking dollars in front of Dollar General or your "Will Work for Food" culture and they'd fit the bill. Certainly there is nothing "difficult" about your "career," that you've already admitted doesn't require higher education, nor does your confession to never donate to charity speak much to your character. As to you trying to win "petty arguments," well you dig in your heels here with the best of them typing out War and Peace, so pot calling the kettle black on that count. LOL.[/QUOTE]Haha normally I would respond with some venom, but I won 4 k on Bivol tonight, so I'll let this slide. Pauly97, in all honesty I am no one and nothing special, but trust me when I tell you, few could have walked my path and still ended up where I am. But again, I am just some guy in a forum so who cares LOL.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2694439]I did forget one thing. There was the high school wrestler in Texas, wrestling against girls, who went undefeated and won the state championship. Definitely an unfair advantage. However, because she was born female and was transitioning to male, state rules required him to compete against the girls. He, she, whatever wanted to wrestle on the boys team, but that "whatever you're born with, is what you are" thinking meant that a boy, in almost every way, was required to wrestle against girls who didn't stand a chance.

Same thing happened when I was in high school. One of the girls in my class muscled up quicker than any of the boys. She played basketball, volleyball, track and softball and was much better than any of the other girls. If they had done hormone testing back then she probably would have had male testosterone levels. Wasn't really fair to all the other girls.[/QUOTE]Yes, 100% correct. A small percentage of women are as or more athletic than men, but that still does not give men the right to use their biological advantages against women and steal the cash, glory, and opportunity from them because on average, men are more athletic than women. This is just how humans have evolved. Women on average are more socially intelligent than men and better in social situations, that is there "strength." Men on average have more physical ability and can focus in and master a particular skill better than women, that is their "strength". Just because an extremely athletic women can defeat an average man in a wrestling match, doesn't mean we should let men compete against women in wrestling. As a life long athlete and coach, I can easily weigh in on this subject, a very athletic female who is experienced in a particular sport will always outperform an unexperienced average male. But when experience and athleticism are equal among a male and female athlete, the women will always lose. It's not fair to make women compete against men.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2693815]I called you out once before for being too magnanimous. Will you please despise someone? I will volunteer for the position if I can just get you to say something bad about someone here. Gawd knows, there's no shortage of eligible candidates.

I try to generally follow suit and ignore or not engage the trolls, but you take it to another level. You actively try to make peace. You're really starting to bug me.

You are too comfortable and that annoys me but I don't know why, jajaja.

Jajajajaja, Ostee Out and Keep On Keepin' On like you always do. If everyone did, the world would be a better place.[/QUOTE]Haha, I don't know who you meant by that. The ideology side of most people is difficult to debate against. The non ideology side is reasonable and helpful from my observation. I just choose to understand what he meant and hoping he can quantify it. Now I see there maybe a big emotional component of it which is difficult to quantify.

Usually there is a gap in internet discussion. I remember they have met and that is why.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2693825]...Elon decides Twitter is biased and is not upholding the true values of Free Speech and puts up 44 Billion of his own money to buy Twitter in order to restore balance to politics. Personally for me anyway, when I witness a man as successful and intelligent as Elon Musk state there is not only evidence to support the fact that Twitter suppresses Free Speech....[/QUOTE]I will be even more impressed when he speaks freely and be consistent on things related to Tesla's operation in China to Chinese government. Don't forget that he can make a lot of money from this too. I don't think he has said he will make it better even if it does not make money. It's complicated to analyze his intention because there are well established people think he is playing with monopoly money.

Do we all remember Brian Eno?

What a superb discussion with him here:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-UKaPyMsbE[/URL]

I rank him at the top of the music world with Roger Waters in terms of awareness.

What an educated and enlightened man he has turned in to. Now let's see those that do not agree with him try to slur him as "woke, anti-senite". This is the pathetic, polarised world we live in.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2693825]Healthy societies should be able to have these discussions without attacking each other and labeling them racist bigots as liberal media has now done to Elon Musk. They are opening claiming he trying to bring back the policies of South African Apartheid. To me, that's vile unnecessary mud-racking.[/QUOTE]Save it. LOL If you are so concerned about "health" and baised, lying bitter media then where is your outrage for Tucker Carlson's sucking up to Putin, and other constant lies from that realm, some of which are clearly treasonous. If you have outrage there's plenty of opportunity to spread it around.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2693825]When Trump won his election in 2016, there was a massive investigation and media campaign which accused him of conspiring with Russia to steal the Election. Republicans allowed a comprehensive government led investigation into whether there were any truth to these claims. I personally never believed he did conspire with Russia[/QUOTE]You are parroting right wing media. Why all the lying from Trump associates and cronies regarding contact with Russian agents if nothing was going on? Why all the constant, off the cuff pardons? Given the proof beyond a reasonable doubt standard, the US is full of cases they don't go to trial where parties are likely guilty. Trump was never exonerated, as he and his followers like to claim. Mueller was clear on that point. In any case we got him out of the WH. In spite all the violence and coup attempts, our system held up. Have a read. The Manafort pardon is rather telling.

[URL]https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/548794-there-was-trump-russia-collusion-and-trump-pardoned-the-colluder/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/19/yes-there-was-collusion/[/URL]

P.S. If you want useful responses quit the barstool filibustering with these walls of texts. Make your point in a hurry and move on to the next one.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2694610]I will be even more impressed when he speaks freely and be consistent on things related to Tesla's operation in China to Chinese government. Don't forget that he can make a lot of money from this too. I don't think he has said he will make it better even if it does not make money. It's complicated to analyze his intention because there are well established people think he is playing with monopoly money.[/QUOTE]I am just basing this off watching some of his interviews and reading the headlines, but Musk is a very strong proponent of Free Market Capitalism and the Private Sector playing a larger role in Society. He has stated this in numerous interviews. He was also furious with the government of California for temporarily shutting down his Tesla factory during the Pandemic to the point he moved a large part of his operations to Texas. I think the government regulations really cut into profits, and he may be justified in his argument that there was an unnecessary over reach of government regulation which hindered his progress and in general is an unnecessary hinderance on many big time capitalists. I think he saw how social media was used to not just shut his business down, but businesses down around the globe. I think this was the turning point for him and in his view, the liberal media needed more balance because its' bias was a detriment to society. Again, in his view, he's killing two birds with one stone. 1. he's investing in an incredibly profitable company such as Twitter and he's going to make it better and more profitable. 2. he's going to bring more political balance, increase free speech, and bring more trust back to his media platform. He's going to attempt to create a more balanced Twitter for society, so the next time there is a Pandemic or an important issue, we all have a trusted media platform we can trust and together people can freely exchange ideas to find the best possible solution to the particular problem presented to society.

I am not very familiar with his business dealings in China, and I haven't heard him speak specifically on how he deals with the the Chinese Market. My guess is, he is a "profits first" type of guy like most big time capitalists who have billions invested in their company and tens of thousands of employees who rely on him to keep the company running.

It is without a doubt a complicated situation and to fully understand it is far above my pay-grade LOL. I am rooting for free speech and a trusted media platform though. We'll see what happens though.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2694457]I would take issue with this, as there certainly are a whole lot of people that could perform your occupation effectively given the opportunity and the proper training. Because I mean seriously, given your political analysis, calling yourself a "conservative" when you are a cyberspace blog wingnut, we are talking about an IQ in at most the 100 range, and that's generous. You could scarf up many who are asking dollars in front of Dollar General or your "Will Work for Food" culture and they'd fit the bill. Certainly there is nothing "difficult" about your "career," that you've already admitted doesn't require higher education, nor does your confession to never donate to charity speak much to your character. As to you trying to win "petty arguments," well you dig in your heels here with the best of them typing out War and Peace, so pot calling the kettle black on that count. LOL.[/QUOTE]I didn't see you brought I. Q. Into this conversation. The last IQ I had done came back at 163, but I have hit over 170 several times. We actually get tested quarterly at work to ensure our cognitive abilities stay consistent to perform the job. We get tested at the same facility as the NFL combine athletes. Our Administration informs us that we must be at least on par with see. I. A. Agents in terms of our cognitive abilities. We also spend 36 hours every month at the Harvard based think tank to discuss new emerging technologies and how they will revolutionize society. And finally we also have to fly to Houston to monitor NASA's progress at the end of each 3rd moon phase. It gets really annoying to have to track the moon phases to be ready for those NASA guys, some of them are real assholes when you have to point out their mistakes to them. Lololol.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2694472]You can sing and dance all you want on this one but it's plainly ridiculous as males have strength advantages, as well as less instances of injuries. Your analogy of females attempting to be male, theoretically but never actually, to male transitioning to female is a fake one. The latter is typically enjoying a lot of strength of advantages along the way while never reaching the destination (XX versus XY). Best to abandon this one and join me and most Americans in the moderate camp, as the far left is just as much of an annoyance in our society as the far right. So in the end, we have have anecdotes, quite possibly straight out of your posterior coupled with fake analogies. That's a double. Again, congratulations. Wink.[/QUOTE]With very few exceptions, strength is not the main component in any sport. I played a lot of sports in my younger days and I can't think of one where the best are the strongest, except for a few reasonably minor sports. Even powerlifting has as much to do with form as muscle mass. Most team sports, if you load the team based solely on strength, you'll lose.

With repetitive motion sports, especially those which require endurance, muscle mass is a disadvantage. How many top soccer players are built like American football offensive linemen? How many swimmers? How about tennis players? Put 325# Larry Allen, Offensive Guard in the NFL (who could bench press over 700#) on the tennis court, give him the best coaches, train him for 5 years and any decent high school player could beat him in straight sets.

Pick one, just one, pick one trans athlete who has managed to dominate their sport. I'm not talking about one event, or one season, I'm talking household name. I used the example of Michael Phelps. Instead I could have said Michael Jordan, Hank Aaron, Tiger Woods, Serena Williams, Megan Rapinoe, Jeff Gordon. Show me a trans athlete who, I'll make it easy, for 3 consecutive years has been considered the best in their sport.

There's nothing far left in anything I've written on this subject. Two people made assertions. One person is a complete nutcase, but there's no sense in discussing mental health issues with you. The assertion is simple: trans athletes (male to female) have an unfair advantage over female athletes. I'm asking for proof. Is asking for proof political? Are your politics now based upon avoiding proof of any assertions?

If that's the case, we're at an impasse. I'm easy to please. If you say something is true, show me and I'll be suitably impressed. If you instead argue that you don't need to show me examples or evidence to support your claims, because my politics are wrong (isn't there a logical fallacy covered by that), I'm not going to instead switch to a discussion about changing my political views (I'm sure that's a logical fallacy) and forget about the support for your claims I've requested.

I'm sure this is another logical fallacy, but since we both seem to be embracing logical fallacy, what hell.

Let's say you tell me "I can drink whiskey (spiked with scopolamine and I'll be fine. I won't end up passed out and robbed and waking up in a hospital 14 hours later, arguing that the medical bill is too high. " I'd reply "prove it." Keeping with your post, your next reply would be to launch into a discussion about logical fallacies and my politics. Call up your friend, the Colombian one, and we can all drink and discuss it.

So, here are a couple of options. You could turn this into another little word battle and you know what always happens when you do that. Alternatively, you can show me one trans athlete who has managed to compete at the top of a sport for 3 years.

Another option, which is my recommendation, find another passion that doesn't involve me. Surely, with all of the time you've spent in Medellin, all those trips, experiences, you could be posting useful information, answering questions and giving advice. But you don't do that. Almost the every time you post in a useful thread, it's to try and score points against me. All because, nearly 5 years ago I pointed out to you that getting stuck in a long, unmoving line at Exito is a normal experience in Medellin. It's not something to throw a tantrum over.

The bad news is, I'm not keeping score. There's no trophy. I'm not getting another big pay raise because of what I post on ISG. Other than killing time when I'm feeling lazy and satisfying my writing urges, the only things I get from posting here are friends. I spent most of yesterday just enjoying being in Medellin with friends I've met through ISG. Medellin is a great place. It's cheap, comfortable and there's all the women most men could ever want. However, for me, without all the friends, it's just another city.

I know very little about what the Israelis and Palestinians are fighting about and learning from an un biased POV is nearly impossible. Let my Jewish friends tell it, the Palestinians are savage unibombers. Let my Arab friends tell it the Jews are Trump loving baby killers. I always figured the truth was somewhere in the middle but it's insane to me how similar these two groups are people are in looks, action, and faith yet they are at each other's throats.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2694643]Do we all remember Brian Eno?

What a superb discussion with him here:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-UKaPyMsbE[/URL]

I rank him at the top of the music world with Roger Waters in terms of awareness.

What an educated and enlightened man he has turned in to. Now let's see those that do not agree with him try to slur him as "woke, anti-senite". This is the pathetic, polarised world we live in.[/QUOTE]

Sorry bud, but it's the truth. Why would you do that more than once? They have perfectly normal taxis or you can grab an Uber.

They could steal your luggage and then your whole trip is ruined. Why risk that when you have other options?

[QUOTE=AboveAverage;2694387]So I guess I'm an idiot because when I get off the plane at the airport and all those taxis guys start mobbing me I actually give in to them sometimes. On two occasions I've done this and both times they brought me back to an unmarked car and I'm too chickenshit to back out at that point.

The first time I got into a car with two guys and was freaking out the whole time thinking I was about to lose all my luggage and everything but instead they just convinced me to buy some overpriced weed.

The second time I did this ended up paying 50 k pesos for a 5 minute ride. It was a rip off but I was exhausted and just wanted to get into my hotel bed. The next morning I couldn't find my phone and I started freaking out until somebody knocked on my door and it the driver from last night who brought back my phone! I have him some more pesos and thanked him profusely.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustTK;2694643]Do we all remember Brian Eno?

What a superb discussion with him here:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-UKaPyMsbE[/URL]

I rank him at the top of the music world with Roger Waters in terms of awareness.

What an educated and enlightened man he has turned in to. Now let's see those that do not agree with him try to slur him as "woke, anti-senite". This is the pathetic, polarised world we live in.[/QUOTE]This is better. YouTube is an entertainment platform and music is entertainment. Also, I remember Brian Eno and many others. I appreciate the musicians for the music, not for their views on a particular subject. Their views might align with mine, or not. Unless I find their views particularly repugnant, it doesn't affect my appreciation of the music.

However, outside of music, their views, with the rare exception of musicians who are recognized experts in a field unrelated to music, are no more important than any other person's views.

Judging by your post and Flappy's reply, it could be that my views might well align with Eno. But where does that get us? I see no indication that the Israel-Palestine conflict will be resolved in my lifetime, certainly not in any way agreeable to all parties.

I like the table here with regards to death and the vaccines: [URL]https://brownstone.org/articles/have-people-been-given-the-wrong-vaccine/[/URL].

As for the peer reviewed part, Some may criticize the Danish study for not yet being peer-reviewed, but it has been. It was peer-reviewed by me and several colleagues, and all of us have decades of experience with these types of studies. That it has not yet been peer-reviewed by anonymous journal reviewers is inconsequential.

There seems to be three parts to publishing. A pre-print is released like what we see here, then the anonymous peer review process, and then the publishing itself. I have been finishing the book "What really happened in Wuhan" and when data supportive of the lab leak theory became available, that information was held from even prepublishing until around April 2021. So the people who like to point to "anonymous" peer review as the gold standard would like us to pretend that science is above politics when clearly it is not and with Covid really never has been.

As far as the data goes, it always amazes me how so few numbers are needed to sway things in a prevention study. Adenovirus vaccine arm had 16/72000 deaths compared to control of 30/50,000. MRNA had 31/37000 versus control of 30/37000.

The problem with any of this data is that it is out of date as soon as it is published. The vaccines were amazing against the variant present when they first came out. Then delta showed even less protection and omicron less still.

So you can check for antibodies from the vaccine and antibodies from the virus and monoclonal antibodies can also be made. Thing most people do not get is there are limits on what the body can produce, and I think something most people do not get is the Biden administration pulled most monoclonal antibodies with omicron because most monoclonal antibodies did not work with Omicron.

So if monoclonal antibodies worked with beta and delta and the vaccine did as well, and you are pulling most monoclonal antibodies, why would you not pull the vaccines too?

Vaccine manufacturers tried to reconfigure the vaccine for omicron, and it did not work that well, and most importantly, they did not have to do any safety trials nor even prove the new fangled vaccine was effective.

When Joe Rogan got Covid, he got monoclonal antibodies and what happened with him and with so many others, is that the disease stopped in its tracks.

Putting resources towards the sick is almost always more cost effective than putting money towards the general population. Furthermore, when you vaccinate someone, you are using the body's antibody factory to produce antibodies that may not work versus this variant of the virus instead of letting the body decide on its own.

This could cause people who are vaccinated to be more likely to fall ill and have more Covid deaths, and that is what is happening in New Zealand now: [URL]https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-the-failure-of-the-mrna-shots-is-on-display-for-all-with-open-eyes[/URL].

For most of us though, the biggest thing is stupid government policies stay in place even more so now that things are off the front pages. So why the requirement to be vaccinated to enter Colombia when the vaccines do not do even work anymore? Why the stupid fucking Covid test one day prior to coming back to the USA? Has that been shown to do any good at all?

And the latest on masks was even more stupid. Now you do not have to wear masks on planes, and I think maybe one in ten people had them on coming to Colombia. Then you get off the plane in Colombia and mask up? Uh why?

Coming back to Colombia, most people had on their masks, but I took one off to get a drink, and no one told me and others to put it back on, so we kept them off.

And FWIW, when I went to the mall, I had only one person comment on wearing a mask and saw many, many more people maskless than I have before.

I do not think though that people get how badly we handled things financially. Bill Maher did and posted this clip [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhhoQbzupug[/URL].

And that is just the $6 trillion in stimulus Congress gave out. There was the $3 trillion worth of assets the Fed printed money for and bought.

Bill Gates was on CNN saying the pandemic may not be over and given how his stock in Microsoft went from $150 to $330 a share maybe he does not want it to be over.

Hopefully, we will now get an honest review of what worked and what did not and see what we got for our money. To me, by far, the most cost effective use of government money was for monoclonal antibodies, and I hope that lesson is learned, but I do not think it will be.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2694685]Save it. LOL If you are so concerned about "health" and baised, lying bitter media then where is your outrage for Tucker Carlson's sucking up to Putin, and other constant lies from that realm, some of which are clearly treasonous. If you have outrage there's plenty of opportunity to spread it around.

You are parroting right wing media. Why all the lying from Trump associates and cronies regarding contact with Russian agents if nothing was going on? Why all the constant, off the cuff pardons? Given the proof beyond a reasonable doubt standard, the US is full of cases they don't go to trial where parties are likely guilty. Trump was never exonerated, as he and his followers like to claim. Mueller was clear on that point. In any case we got him out of the WH. In spite all the violence and coup attempts, our system held up. Have a read. The Manafort pardon is rather telling.

[URL]https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/548794-there-was-trump-russia-collusion-and-trump-pardoned-the-colluder/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/19/yes-there-was-collusion/[/URL]

P.S. If you want useful responses quit the barstool filibustering with these walls of texts. Make your point in a hurry and move on to the next one.[/QUOTE]Show me recent evidence of Tucker Carlson sucking up to Putin?

Show me something which is "clearly treasonous" that has come from any recent American politician, right or left? I want to see the hard evidence.

You actually believe that Trump got together with Putin and stole the 2016 election? Like what did they do? Have spam bots change people's minds LOL? Spam bots rigged the election LOL? You don't think there is a massive amount of global influence that would love to see the Democratic Party win elections in the USA. You don't think they do what they legally can to support Democratic Candidates? You don't think countries like Mexico, China, Iran would love to see guys like Obama and Biden in office? The whole world pays attention to our elections and they all do what they can to influence the candidates they want to see win. Maybe Russia did put some spam bots out, but this type of stuff is always going to be around. Turn on any TV Channel, ABC, CBS, NBC, BBC, ETC. They all have liberal spins on all their media platforms. I and the United States Government investigation saw absolutely no evidence to bring charges against Trump for rigging an election. Its silly shit Republicans had to deal with for winning an election.

The January 6th attack on the capital as I have said many times was disgraceful and if one day it comes out that Trump had something to do it, I won't be shocked to say the least. As of right now he is innocent until proven guilty though. Personally I think if he had done something to intentionally plan that attack, the evidence would have come out by now and he would have been charged with a crime.

The Trump Impeachment was a total joke in my view as well. Hunter Biden is a crooked junkie piece of shit rich kid who was doing a ton of shady shit. Honestly, who fucking cares if Trump did want to take down that little scum bag if he is doing illegal business dealings in Ukraine? You wouldn't want to know that if his dad is running for President? Don't you think that is important information voters should be made aware of? Instead, Democrats wasted everyone's time and put on a Big Drama Show Impeachment which everyone knew was bullshit and was an impeachment they knew they were never going to win anyway. I bet the media loved the ratings from it though LOL. I wonder if they factored that into it when they decided to impeach him?

All that being said, Trump is not and never was my ideal candidate, I did not vote for him in 2016. The unfairness and the difficulty the Democrats gave him while he was in office was exactly why I voted for him in 2020. And his economic policies. I still didn't like him, I just hated how biased the Democrats had become. They lost their their souls when Trump won in 2016 and it became a party on a mission to see Trump fail rather than work together to put policies into place which would entice voters to elect their candidates.

P.S. - LOL If my posts are too long, then don't read them. It probably takes less than 45 seconds to read my posts.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2694713]With very few exceptions, strength is not the main component in any sport. I played a lot of sports in my younger days and I can't think of one where the best are the strongest, except for a few reasonably minor sports. Even powerlifting has as much to do with form as muscle mass. Most team sports, if you load the team based solely on strength, you'll lose.

With repetitive motion sports, especially those which require endurance, muscle mass is a disadvantage. How many top soccer players are built like American football offensive linemen? How many swimmers? How about tennis players? Put 325# Larry Allen, Offensive Guard in the NFL (who could bench press over 700#) on the tennis court, give him the best coaches, train him for 5 years and any decent high school player could beat him in straight sets.

Pick one, just one, pick one trans athlete who has managed to dominate their sport. I'm not talking about one event, or one season, I'm talking household name. I used the example of Michael Phelps. Instead I could have said Michael Jordan, Hank Aaron, Tiger Woods, Serena Williams, Megan Rapinoe, Jeff Gordon. Show me a trans athlete who, I'll make it easy, for 3 consecutive years has been considered the best in their sport.

There's nothing far left in anything I've written on this subject. Two people made assertions. One person is a complete nutcase, but there's no sense in discussing mental health issues with you. The assertion is simple: trans athletes (male to female) have an unfair advantage over female athletes. I'm asking for proof. Is asking for proof political? Are your politics now based upon avoiding proof of any assertions?

If that's the case, we're at an impasse. I'm easy to please. If you say something is true, show me and I'll be suitably impressed. If you instead argue that you don't need to show me examples or evidence to support your claims, because my politics are wrong (isn't there a logical fallacy covered by that), I'm not going to instead switch to a discussion about changing my political views (I'm sure that's a logical fallacy) and forget about the support for your claims I've requested..[/QUOTE]If you want proof, go look at every single athletic record in history. Any type of evidence which can be measured. Running, lifting, swimming, cycling. All the records are held by men. The burden of evidence is on you due to those records. Show us something which proves women are equal athletes to men.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2694707]I am just basing this off watching some of his interviews and reading the headlines, but Musk is a very strong proponent of Free Market Capitalism and the Private Sector playing a larger role in Society. He has stated this in numerous interviews. He was also furious with the government of California for temporarily shutting down his Tesla factory during the Pandemic to the point he moved a large part of his operations to Texas. I think the government regulations really cut into profits, and he may be justified in his argument that there was an unnecessary over reach of government regulation which hindered his progress and in general is an unnecessary hinderance on many big time capitalists. I think he saw how social media was used to not just shut his business down, but businesses down around the globe. I think this was the turning point for him and in his view, the liberal media needed more balance because its' bias was a detriment to society..[/QUOTE]I don't think you've done your research. To start with, [B]I[/B] think Musk is one of the greatest engineers of our lifetime. I think he is on a par with the likes of Edison and Franklin. But he is way out of his depth as a CEO. He got into a pissing match with the SEC. Since the SEC regulates publicly traded companies, this was just plain stupid. I don't even remember the issues involved and it matters not whether he was right or wrong. You just don't tell the police that you are allowed to exceed the speed limit because there isn't any traffic on the road and they are fucking stupid to stop you. A CEO is supposed to be working for the benefit of the shareholders.

He has made a tender offer to purchase Twitter and apparently it has been accepted.

Twitter isn't an incredibly profitable company. I can't imagine where you came up with that idea. I just took a quick look at their financial statements. They have been profitable 2 of the last 10 years. (2012-2021). Does he have some ideas on how to reenergize Twitter? Maybe, but Twitter is competing against Facebook / Instagram / Messenger and Google / YouTube / GMail and TikTok and. Etc. And. Etc.

It's his money, well some of it is anyway, so let him have his party.

As to bringing political balance to social media. I think you're off your rocker on that as well. What is his complaint? That Twitter blocked certain messages because of their content? I believe the reason given by Twitter was that they blocked and removed messages that were dangerous and demonstrably untruthful. Maybe he thinks every Elvis deserves a place to advocate dangerous practices, like taking Ivermectin to fight CoVid or what was that other loony one? Hydroxycloroquine? Whatever.

Maybe he thinks his engineering acumen extends to social engineering as well? Well some part of his fortune will be on the line and surely his prestige as well.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2694795]I like the table here with regards to death and the vaccines: [URL]https://brownstone.org/articles/have-people-been-given-the-wrong-vaccine/[/URL].
[/QUOTE]But this study does not agree with my already invested opinion Elvis. This means it must be written by anti-vaxxers and ur a fuckin moron!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2694805]If you want proof, go look at every single athletic record in history. Any type of evidence which can be measured. Running, lifting, swimming, cycling. All the records are held by men. The burden of evidence is on you due to those records. Show us something which proves women are equal athletes to men.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/reagan/binary-gender-oklahoma/2022/05/07/id/1068853/[/URL]

[URL]https://amgreatness.com/2022/05/07/yes-we-con[/URL]

Medicaid will pay for a man to get tits because he feels like a woman but if a woman loses her tits due to cancer that's "cosmetic" surgery to fix it and not covered.

Wow, I mean wow. Anyone interested in political history should watch the first 11 min 30 sec of this. Very informative and powerful. I wish I had learnt about the history of May Day when I was at university.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7KbCFdWyRQ[/URL]

[QUOTE=Villainy;2694825]I don't think you've done your research. To start with, [B]I[/B] think Musk is one of the greatest engineers of our lifetime. I think he is on a par with the likes of Edison and Franklin. But he is way out of his depth as a CEO. He got into a pissing match with the SEC. Since the SEC regulates publicly traded companies, this was just plain stupid. I don't even remember the issues involved and it matters not whether he was right or wrong. You just don't tell the police that you are allowed to exceed the speed limit because there isn't any traffic on the road and they are fucking stupid to stop you. A CEO is supposed to be working for the benefit of the shareholders.

He has made a tender offer to purchase Twitter and apparently it has been accepted.

Twitter isn't an incredibly profitable company. I can't imagine where you came up with that idea. I just took a quick look at their financial statements. They have been profitable 2 of the last 10 years. (2012-2021). Does he have some ideas on how to reenergize Twitter? Maybe, but Twitter is competing against Facebook / Instagram / Messenger and Google / YouTube / GMail and TikTok and. Etc. And. Etc..[/QUOTE]You could be right. I did previously state I have my doubts about him purchasing Twitter and holding so much influence over society. Not just him personally, but any one person in general.

LOL My bad I assumed Twitter was profitable, It did just sell for 44 Billion, so it has got to be earning some kind of doe. And if it isn't Musk obviously sees potential in it.

I am skeptical as well that he has spread himself out into too many industries and he is kinda going a little "megalomanic" with all his success. Tesla, Space-ex, NueraLink, The Boring Tunnel Company Thing, Solar City, and now this. It does raise concern with me.

Overall though, I think he needs to be given the benefit of the doubt due to his history of success. Like I stated before, if he can create a more balanced platform where people can exchange ideas in a less toxic environment which can lead to better solutions to societies problems, more qualified responsible Politicians, new technological innovations, etc: then I think it is worth a shot. I think to achieve those goals we have to protect our rights to freedom of speech which he seems to agree with.

And the reaction of Democrats to Musk buying Twitter has really solidified this viewpoint for me. The immediate slander campaign-cancel culture-playbook they run to anyone who doesn't want to follow the narrative was immediately used against Musk. They have been playing a very dirty game since 2016 and I would like to see someone put some more restraint on the Democratic party and their tactics to silence anyone who doesn't openly support them. If they weren't so bloodthirsty for cancel-culture I think it would do America a lot of good.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2694885][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/reagan/binary-gender-oklahoma/2022/05/07/id/1068853/[/URL]

[URL]https://amgreatness.com/2022/05/07/yes-we-con[/URL]

Medicaid will pay for a man to get tits because he feels like a woman but if a woman loses her tits due to cancer that's "cosmetic" surgery to fix it and not covered.[/QUOTE]Some times when I have to make these arguments I feel like I am in a science fiction movie and then I realize, this is actually happening. It's like "Planet of the Apes". Let's make a movie where Apes are smart and humans are stupid. Let's make a movie where women are physically superior to men and men are all beta simps LOL.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2694707] Musk is a very strong proponent of Free Market Capitalism and the Private Sector playing a larger role in Society.[/QUOTE]Well, he certainly has you convinced. He's very convincing, I will give him that. He's a South African fascist who's trying to cast himself as a patriotic American. He's a rich carpetbagger and economic jihadist. And per wikipedia:

"In May 2018, Musk and Canadian musician Grimes revealed that they were dating. Grimes gave birth to their son in May 2020. According to Musk and Grimes, his name was "X A-12"; however, the name would have violated California regulations as it contained characters that are not in the modern English alphabet, and was then changed to "X A-Xii". This drew more confusion, as is not a letter in the modern English alphabet. The child was eventually named "X AE A-XII" Musk, with "X" as a first name, "AE A-XII" as a middle name, and "Musk" as surname."

Maybe a couple of tacos shy of a combo plate?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2694885] Medicaid will pay for a man to get tits because he feels like a woman.[/QUOTE]But that's BS. Not true. I know nothimg about medicaid, but I know that's not true just bcos its such an ignorant and disrespectful thing to say.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2694971]But that's BS. Not true. I know nothimg about medicaid, but I know that's not true just bcos its such an ignorant and disrespectful thing to say.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJL4UGSbeFg[/URL]

If the shoe fits!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2695078][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJL4UGSbeFg[/URL]

If the shoe fits![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqFLXayD6e8[/URL]

Why don't you go back to telling us all about your extensive trips to Colombia and all the cities you've visited and places and things you've seen and done.

Some of us need a good laugh.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2694951]Some times when I have to make these arguments I feel like I am in a science fiction movie and then I realize, this is actually happening. It's like "Planet of the Apes". Let's make a movie where Apes are smart and humans are stupid. Let's make a movie where women are physically superior to men and men are all beta simps LOL.[/QUOTE]Life imitating art started with the election of Barry Hussein in 2008.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2695162][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqFLXayD6e8[/URL]

Why don't you go back to telling us all about your extensive trips to Colombia and all the cities you've visited and places and things you've seen and done.

Some of us need a good laugh.[/QUOTE]But at least according to the putas in the countries I've been to, I am GOD LMAO.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqeC3BPYTmE[/URL]

Does that make me special? LOL.

Or maybe its that most mongers are that unimpressive? Ie Villany LOL.

I just the saw the fotos you posted.

And then sometimes I wonder? Maybe I'm way overqualified for this hobby LOL.

Thanks for the good laughs you whack job.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2694963]Well, he certainly has you convinced. He's very convincing, I will give him that. He's a South African fascist who's trying to cast himself as a patriotic American. He's a rich carpetbagger and economic jihadist. And per wikipedia:

"In May 2018, Musk and Canadian musician Grimes revealed that they were dating. Grimes gave birth to their son in May 2020. According to Musk and Grimes, his name was "X A-12"; however, the name would have violated California regulations as it contained characters that are not in the modern English alphabet, and was then changed to "X A-Xii". This drew more confusion, as is not a letter in the modern English alphabet. The child was eventually named "X AE A-XII" Musk, with "X" as a first name, "AE A-XII" as a middle name, and "Musk" as surname."

Maybe a couple of tacos shy of a combo plate?[/QUOTE]There is no evidence to label him a fascist. What exactly is an "economic jihadist"?

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2694951]Some times when I have to make these arguments I feel like I am in a science fiction movie and then I realize, this is actually happening. It's like "Planet of the Apes". Let's make a movie where Apes are smart and humans are stupid. Let's make a movie where women are physically superior to men and men are all beta simps LOL.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM&t=158s[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aAH_G5hcAg&t=26s[/URL]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2694711] The last IQ I had done came back at 16.3, but I have hit over 17 several times.[/QUOTE]Fixed that for you.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2695162]Why don't you go back to telling us all about your extensive trips to Colombia and all the cities you've visited and places and things you've seen and done.

Some of us need a good laugh.[/QUOTE]In the American politics forum he also claims to have been all over Russia and the Ukraine and while pontificating on the war and linking to Russian state news and Breitbart. LOL It's what I'd call basement populism, is highly fraudulent, unamerican and subversive, and they and their leaders, Matt Gaetz, Madison Cawthorn, Candice Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene, etc. Need to be deported to Moscow where their loyalties lie.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2695333]Fixed that for you.[/QUOTE]LOL, Thank you sir. I was waiting for somebody to fix that error.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2695335]In the American politics forum he also claims to have been all over Russia and the Ukraine and while pontificating on the war and linking to Russian state news and Breitbart. LOL It's what I'd call basement populism, is highly fraudulent, unamerican and subversive, and they and their leaders, Matt Gaetz, Madison Cawthorn, Candice Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene, etc. Need to be deported to Moscow where their loyalties lie.[/QUOTE]Look you low life scumbag, why don't you disconnect from your neighbors WIFI in the trailer park in the swamp down there and give us all a break.

[URL]https://amgreatness.com/2022/05/09/msnbc-guest-says-she-wants-to-make-sweet-love-with-scotus-leaker-and-then-joyfully-abort-fetus/[/URL]

[URL]https://amgreatness.com/2022/05/09/the-anatomy-of-a-wave-election/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ben-carson-scotus-abortion-protests/2022/05/07/id/1068884/?ns_mail_uid=7acb8d22-87e7-46a5-9e60-9327e65ed551&ns_mail_job=DM330824_05082022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=01010437cpb3[/URL]

You're a scumbag liar, everytime you post you lie.

Yes I've been to Russia a few times and have a visa waiting to return ASAP.

But I have never said I was all over Russia and Ukraine.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2695168]Life imitating art started with the election of Barry Hussein in 2008.[/QUOTE]Is this who you mean? The Black Irish President?

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DerVmiZeUDw[/URL]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2695335]In the American politics forum he also claims to have been all over Russia and the Ukraine and while pontificating on the war and linking to Russian state news and Breitbart. LOL It's what I'd call basement populism, is highly fraudulent, unamerican and subversive, and they and their leaders, Matt Gaetz, Madison Cawthorn, Candice Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene, etc. Need to be deported to Moscow where their loyalties lie.[/QUOTE]Says the sewer dweller.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2694971]But that's BS. Not true. I know nothimg about medicaid, but I know that's not true just bcos its such an ignorant and disrespectful thing to say.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately it is true, under certain circumstances. I do agree you know nothing, though.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2695453]You're a scumbag liar, everytime you post you lie…[/QUOTE]WOW. You've lied about your age, your travels, your experiences and almost everything else. Kind of cheeky for you to call someone else a liar.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2695484]Is this who you mean? The Black Irish President?

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DerVmiZeUDw[/URL][/QUOTE]That attended a madrasah with daily prayers in Jakarta.

And his biological father was also Muslim.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2695541]Unfortunately it is true, under certain circumstances. I do agree you know nothing, though.[/QUOTE]Ok, if it's true, please show me an example. "Medicaid will pay for a man to get tits".

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2694039]I am not sure what you mean by that. I have met DF in real life. We have somewhat different approaches but we both spend the money, do the work, and have helped each other to get the best women we can....[/QUOTE]I mean imaging you like to go to this popular restaurant and there is always this person stations in the restaurant telling everybody the food is terrible, don't eat there. LOL.

Do you think the argument here will turn out differently had you met with some of them before from the viewpoint of both sides? I remember you have met DF, that is why I posted.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2694707]... He was also furious with the government of California for temporarily shutting down his Tesla factory during the Pandemic to the point he moved a large part of his operations to Texas. ..

I am not very familiar with his business dealings in China...[/QUOTE]


This is what I mean. Will he react to similar issue the same way? Would he be furious at the government and let it be known? I am not holding him to a higher standard, will just think it is smart to be quiet. As an observer, I will observe what he actually does than what he says.

And keep in mind that California is a high tax state but I don't know if there is advantage for him.

You claim to know just about everything and practically live on this forum. Even on your vacation you could not get away from posting for one night it seems. Soooo with all your vast knowledge, how on earth did you let a lesbian ruin your last night there? I would have kicked her to the curb easily under 30 minutes. She would not have ruined one of my night and let alone not my last night. How exactly did you let this happen? Enquiring minds want to know. Maybe you need to RTFF.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2695586]WOW. You've lied about your age, your travels, your experiences and almost everything else. Kind of cheeky for you to call someone else a liar.[/QUOTE]List where I have lied, instead of just saying I've lied.

Lets see what you have? Yeah I don't think so dirtbag!

"Show me your friends and I will tell you who you are." As this Greek saying states, our friends form us. We are a product of the people we surround ourselves with.

We all know who you roll around in the gutter in MDE with!!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2695666]List where I have lied, instead of just saying I've lied.

Lets see what you have? [/QUOTE]The question isn't which statement you made is a lie. The qustion is: which one (if any) isn't a lie. I say any statement you made about visiting a foreign country and partaking of the local Pay-4-play collective is an out and out lie. I say prove that you've been anywhere. Who on ISG has met you and can vouch for you?? I'll wait for it.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2695666]"Show me your friends and I will tell you who you are." As this [B]Greek[/B] saying states, our friends form us. We are a product of the people we surround ourselves with.
We all know who you roll around in the gutter in MDE with!![/QUOTE]Sorry, dipstick I'm not into Greek.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2695644]You claim to know just about everything and practically live on this forum. Even on your vacation you could not get away from posting for one night it seems. Soooo with all your vast knowledge, how on earth did you let a lesbian ruin your last night there? I would have kicked her to the curb easily under 30 minutes. She would not have ruined one of my night and let alone not my last night. How exactly did you let this happen? Enquiring minds want to know. Maybe you need to RTFF.[/QUOTE]Well, let's start from the beginning. I'll keep it as simple as possible. It always helps to know your audience.

I've never claimed to know just about everything here. You literally stuck your head up your ass from the first sentence. You should save the really stupid part for the end. Otherwise, it's kind of a letdown. Watch any action movie and see how the excitement level builds to a climactic ending. Then replace "excitement" with "ignorance" and you can at least make your idiocy more interesting.

Let's follow your stupid and see where it goes next. I had to go back and check, and the verdict is that I didn't post on 5 nights of my vacation. Only 2 sentences in and you already failed twice, actually 3 times. How frequently someone posts has no connection to their knowledge level. Just because you stick your head up your ass every time you post, doesn't mean you're a proctologist.

Next up, my "vast knowledge. " I've never claimed to have vast knowledge about anything. I've claimed to know a lot about some specific subjects: the webcam industry and nuclear power are 2 that come to mind. Four total failures in 3 sentences and a fifth one as well. Knowledge and the application of knowledge are separate things. I know people who can tell you everything about cars, but they can't do something as simple as replace a water pump.

But we're not done yet. How do you figure my night was ruined? It wasn't. It didn't work out how I had hoped, but I certainly didn't consider it ruined. That's 6, count 'them, 6 complete fuck ups from you in only 3 sentences. Does anyone know what the record is?

All of that pathetic shit from you isn't the worst of it. The worst of it is that it was all unnecessary. You could have asked for more information on my night. I'm always happy to answer questions. Instead, you thought you were going to burn me and ended up making a fool of yourself.

Here's how this works. If you are feeling froggy and decide to take a swing at me, I hit back. As I was telling a friend a few days ago, I don't want to be an asshole, but if you want me to be an asshole, I'm going to be a good one.

On the other hand, as some of the people here can tell you, if you just want to talk and have a good time, I can do that fairly well too.

Now that's all out of the way, let's satisfy your enquiring mind.

1. The lesbian, Z, has been a friend for going on 5 years. We've spent quite a bit of time hanging out and checking out women together. In the past she had even introduced me to a couple of girls, 1 who gave the best deep throat I've ever had.

2. We haven't seen each other in over 4 years, so it was good to just catch up (and check out women together).

3. My goal has never been to fuck as many women as possible. I enjoy experiences. If just fucking a girl was my goal, I would have taken the lesbian and the best girl in Fase 2 to one of the rooms for a modified threesome. I'd probably have only fucked the 1 girl, but there would have been some heavy girl on girl action.

4. Although there were a few times when I was getting annoyed, that was because I wanted to get to sleep at a reasonable hour. As I've said before, I am a bit paranoid about flying. Not the flying, but missing the flight. If you ever see me running through an airport, you should start running too, because I'm always early.

5. I don't kick friends to the curb. If the twins hadn't insisted, at the last minute, they wanted paid in advance, I had already let Z know I would probably be leaving at a certain time.

6. Had I kicked Z to the curb I would have headed back to the apartment and gone to sleep earlier. Instead I ended up being the first guy she had ever fucked. It wasn't the best fuck of my life, but it wasn't the worst. It was an experience, something I'll remember. That's more important to me than just finding a pussy to pound that I won't remember in 6 months.

Does that explain it well enough?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2695602]Ok, if it's true, please show me an example. "Medicaid will pay for a man to get tits".[/QUOTE]I don't have an example such as a name but you can do your own research and discover that among other things, Medicaid will pay for almost every drug a doctor prescribes. That includes female hormones. So, if a doctor prescribes female hormones for a male, Medicaid will for sure cover it. And you give males female hormones, and they get tits. Medicaid is administered by the individual states and some go farther than others. You aren't from the Yew Ess and don't know shit about Medicaid, and are wrong as almost always.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2695644]Soooo with all your vast knowledge, how on earth did you let a lesbian ruin your last night there?.[/QUOTE]Bcos he is too busy stroking his own ego to realise that he is a complete dlck.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2695949]Bcos he is too busy stroking his own ego to realise that he is a complete dlck.[/QUOTE]Awww. What's the matter Just Touches Kids? Did your tender little feelings get hurt because I pointed out the idiocy of using YouTube as your only source? You've been too scared to directly address me for months. All you can do is whisper your little snips and run away, just like a little child.

I guess all of your rubbing off on children has caused childish behavior to rub off on you.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2695754]5. I don't kick friends to the curb.
6. Instead I ended up being the first guy she had ever fucked. It wasn't the best fuck of my life, but it wasn't the worst. It was an experience, something I'll remember.[/QUOTE]5. 95% of people you know are acquaintances, not friends. An easy way to tell is if you got stuck in a rain or snow storm at 4 am and asked for a ride or help getting unstuck, how many people do you know that would come? I guarantee very very few.

6. Her bad performance was she has been with very few guys or she did not like you very much. Based on her trying to waste your time, offering girls who wanted paid first, ordering drinks for everyone with your money, and her poor performance. You guessed it. She does not like you. Duh!

She pulled the "you are first guy I have had sex with because I am a virgin" trick on you and you bought it? Really? What a memory to cherish forever.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2695900]Medicaid will pay for almost every drug a doctor prescribes. That includes female hormones. So, if a doctor prescribes female hormones for a male, Medicaid will for sure cover it. And you give males female hormones, and they get tits.[/QUOTE]So why would a doctor prescribe female hormones to a man? That is plainly ridiculous. I want you to gve me an example of a doctor that has prescribed female hormones to a man.

And if female hormones makes one grow tits, why can't a woman take them after breast surgery? And why then do trans women have surgery to have breasts?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2696077]So why would a doctor prescribe female hormones to a man? That is plainly ridiculous. I want you to gve me an example of a doctor that has prescribed female hormones to a man.[/QUOTE]JustTK, I have tried to tell you how fucking stupid the Democrats are, and this trans shit is at the top of the list. You just do not want to believe it:[URL]https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/feminizing-hormone-therapy/about/pac-20385096[/URL].

[QUOTE=JustTK;2696077]And if female hormones makes one grow tits, why can't a woman take them after breast surgery?[/QUOTE]Very simplistically, female hormones can cause female cancers like breast cancer to grow.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2696077]And why then do trans women have surgery to have breasts?[/QUOTE]Estrogen just does not affect breasts but moods.

My sister in law just attended a mandatory conference with her employer. She was told to call breast feeding chest feeding because men can feed babies too. She was told to call her daughter they instead of she because her baby has not made up her mind about what sex she wants.

Yeah, it is that fucking crazy.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2696075]5. 95% of people you know are acquaintances, not friends. An easy way to tell is if you got stuck in a rain or snow storm at 4 am and asked for a ride or help getting unstuck, how many people do you know that would come? I guarantee very very few.

6. Her bad performance was she has been with very few guys or she did not like you very much. Based on her trying to waste your time, offering girls who wanted paid first, ordering drinks for everyone with your money, and her poor performance. You guessed it. She does not like you. Duh!

She pulled the "you are first guy I have had sex with because I am a virgin" trick on you and you bought it? Really? What a memory to cherish forever.[/QUOTE]You just keep trying don't you? Do you enjoy the humiliation? If so, I'll hook Z up with Osteo so she can borrow his strap on, and I'm sure she'd be happy to pack your ass and make you her little pet, if you can pull your head out long enough.

Let's start off with your definition of friend. I haven't been stuck in a snow storm in Medellin yet. Has this been a frequent problem for you? I also don't get stuck in snow storms, and I'll guarantee I've driven through more than you have. And rain storms? How much of a pansy do you have to be to get stuck in a rain storm? I've driven through the tails of hurricanes delivering emergency relief supplies. I've driven within a few miles of tornadoes. I remember driving through Chicago on the night they got 17 inches of rain. The only time I got stuck was off-roading at night in the mountains near the Idaho-Wyoming border, 1982. Instead of crying for mommy to come save me, I walked 10 miles out, and would have walked another 10, except a rancher was headed home from a bar 10 miles further away. He gave me a sleeping bag, made some breakfast for me and, in the morning, drove another 10 miles to the only pay phone in the area. I called an "acquaintance" who drove 90 miles to pick me up. 3 days later, when we had a day off, we came back and dug my truck out.

As for friends vs. Acquaintances in Medellin, I know who my friends are. If I called Z at 4 am, provided she was awake, she would call someone and a car would come get me. If I was hurt, she would be in the car and would take me to the hospital. If I called her and told her I needed a tow truck, she would have called one. Which would be silly. It's a rental. I have an emergency service number to call. How stupid do you have to be. If you've managed to run your car off the road in the rain, to call up a woman with no car to come save you?

Of course, I probably wouldn't have to rely on her. I've always been able to take care of myself. If I fall down, instead of lying around crying, hoping someone will pick me up, I get up and move on. Maybe someday you'll learn to do that too.

Geez. Call some friend to pull you out? Are you that broke? You pull out your phone, find a company that provides the service you need and you call them and pay to fix the problem. Why wake someone up at 4 am, drag them out of bed and have them come out to do something they don't have the tools or expertise to do? Here I thought you were an international monger and it turns out you think like a drunken redneck.

I'll give you on thing. You're world class at putting both feet in your mouth, before you even get to the point.

As for your point 6, at least you're consistent, consistently wrong and wrong in multiple ways. When that high school councilor told you to pick something you're good at, it's a shame all you could come up with was "making myself look stupid."

Let's start with "offering girls who wanted paid first." When did she do that? Are those reading comprehension skills lacking? There's no connection. I had set up with the twins. I was having dinner with Z. While having dinner with Z, one of the twins insisted on being paid in advance. I refused.

You're like a moth, that keeps getting killed by a bug zapper. You get reincarnated and immediately fly off in search of the pretty blue light.

Next up, "trying to waste my time. " We met up and had a beer. We walked a bit and found a restaurant. We ate dinner. We talked. When I got the "pay first" message we talked about girls and she started calling to see who she could find. She found one that was working at Fase 2. We went to Fase 2. No time wasted.

Time was wasted in Fase 2, sure. It's fairly normal. We were probably there for 25-30 minutes. She had friends to talk to, 2 waiters, the bartender and the bouncer, plus several girls. And it's quite interesting watching her "talk" to the girls, especially since the girls ended up rubbing on me, without expecting a tip.

Sure she bought drinks for 3 girls and wanted to buy more. I had money, I normally would have been happy to spend it. While I'm not a make it rain guy, I'll gladly buy a few overpriced drinks. Next time I might take a night to go back with her.

In your headlong rush to make a fool of yourself, you neglected one thing. Language barrier. I can get by in Spanish, carry on a conversation and understand enough to get along fine. But Z always talks fast and I almost certainly misunderstood her. While I thought we were pulling the girl from the club, she, I assume, thought we were going to find a girl and have her in the club.

On a regular night that would have been fine. I literally had my pick of any girl. And a word from Z and we could have had as much time as needed.

The miscommunication continued in the car. I was ready to take her home. She thought we were going to Lleras to find a girl. When she didn't want to be taken home, I went home and she kept telling me I was going the wrong way, pointing me towards Lleras. At the gate I figured out what she had been trying to do, find a girl for a 3 some. But at that point I was done. If she didn't like me she could have bailed any time after dinner. She comes out ahead. At the end she could have had me drop her anywhere and got some more money out of me. Instead, she called a driver and headed home.

But let's go with the "didn't like me" postulate (or preposterous). We've known each less than 5 years and haven't seen each other in over 4 years. Yet she kept in touch. Every few months she'd message and ask how I was. Why? She was in Chile, with a sugar mama. She had never gotten paid by me, a few free beers is all.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm going to assume she likes me. She spent months hanging out with me whenever possible, never with any other man. She pointed out prepagos who she thought I might like. And if all that time was just because she knew she would get some money from me someday, I admire her patience. Although she mentioned she knew some girls, she didn't try to push them on me. It wasn't until I asked her to find one for her and I, before she went to work.

You've probably never experienced being with a girl who likes you, but it's much different than being with a girl who doesn't like you. The girl who doesn't like you will do whatever it takes to get finished and get going.

There was no rush, no attempt to get me off quickly. No hurry to get away afterwards. Afterwards we spent 45 minutes in the jacuzzi and another 15 minutes in the shower. The jacuzzi was cold when we got in and had to warm up. Why stay? She wasn't getting paid extra. Why all the talking?

I guess it makes you feel better when you pretend that nobody likes me, but that doesn't appear to be the case. I'm not wasting anymore time explaining every tiny detail which illustrated she was doing something she wasn't familiar with. It would be lost on you. I'm satisfied with the outcome.

I eagerly your next show of ineptitude.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2696077]So why would a doctor prescribe female hormones to a man? That is plainly ridiculous. I want you to gve me an example of a doctor that has prescribed female hormones to a man.

And if female hormones makes one grow tits, why can't a woman take them after breast surgery? And why then do trans women have surgery to have breasts?[/QUOTE]There's this thing, it's called "Google." If you have questions you can ask Google and Google will find the answer. Then you can have the answer and not make yourself look foolish by insisting on one thing without having a clue what you're talking about.

[URL]https://transequality.org/know-your-rights/medicare[/URL]#text=Medicare%20 covers%20 medically%20 necessary%20 hormone, should%20 be%20 covered%20 when%20 prescribed.

"Medicare covers medically necessary hormone therapy.

Medicare also covers medically necessary hormone therapy for transgender people. These medications are part of Medicare Part the lists of covered medications and should be covered when prescribed."

If a doctor decides that feminizing hormone therapy is appropriate for a man, the doctor will prescribe it. If the doctor prescribes it, Medicare will pay it.

As for a specific example of a doctor prescribing the treatment to a man, this is complicated. You see, people who aren't too fucking clueless to use Google to find the answer to a simple question, are also aware of laws protecting patient confidentiality. I can't go to a clinic and request the names of doctors who have prescribed and patients who have received the treatment. It would be illegal for them to release the information.

However, the fact that the therapy exists and Medicare will pay for it indicates that some doctors are prescribing it to some men.

Your next group of inane questions might be a bit complicated for Google, if the person looking for the answer is an idiot, which is the situation we're facing here.

During puberty (or what you call "getting too old for me" estrogen levels in females increase and testosterone levels in males increase. These hormones are responsible for sexual development. If hormone levels are wrong, normal development doesn't occur. You get women with no breasts, infertility issues, facial hair and more. Or you get men with small penises, enlarged breasts, lack of facial hair and reduced sex drive.

High levels of estrogen causes breast tissue to grow. Both men and women have this tissue. If a woman had her breasts removed (radical mastectomy), there is no breast tissue to grow. Let me make it easy. Take 2 pots of potting soil. In one place some seeds, nothing in the other. Water both. If you did it right, the seeds in one sprout and grow. In the other pot, nothing.

Continuing with that analogy, just because the plant grows, doesn't mean it has a nice even appearance. It needs to be trimmed and pruned to improve its appearance.

Same with breasts enlarged through hormone therapy. It gives you a start. But to make them look right is probably going to require surgery.

See now you know the answers to your stupid questions, you know how to about appearing so stupid in the future and possibly you understand why so many people keep saying you're stupid.

Thanks for your participation.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2696128]JustTK, I have tried to tell you how fucking stupid the Democrats are, and this trans shit is at the top of the list. You just do not want to believe it

.[/QUOTE]Am still waiting for someone to give me an answer. Getting tired of waiting so I will play it out for you all. Someone is going to put foward the name of a trans as an example of a man who was "given tits". Aind I am going to say that is not an example of a man, that is a woman. So there you have it.

MdS, Huacho, any other ignorant consevatves out there. Can you just try this exercise for me please:- I want you to think for a momnet about your inner self. What makes you a man. Are you a man? If the answer is affirmative, what is it that makes you think you are a man? Is it bcos a doctor told your parents you were a boy at birth? Is it bcos you happen to have a dick? Is it bcos you had your blood tested and you read that you have XY chromosomes? I suspect one or more of these might help, but I doubt any is the main reason. For example, imagine now that you did not have a dick. Everything else is the same, just you happen not to have a dick. Would you feel any less like a man? I very much doubt it. You feel like a man bcos you are a man. Same would be if you were born with breasts or a pussy. It would be the same you inside, saying that your a man.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2696077]So why would a doctor prescribe female hormones to a man? That is plainly ridiculous. I want you to gve me an example of a doctor that has prescribed female hormones to a man.

And if female hormones makes one grow tits, why can't a woman take them after breast surgery? And why then do trans women have surgery to have breasts?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/male-to-female-hormones[/URL]#definition.

I am truly sorry about your extreme ignorance regarding this subject, and I can't specify a particular doctor, but this happens with regularity.

[URL]https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/21653-feminizing-hormone-therapy[/URL]

[URL]https://transcare.ucsf.edu/guidelines/initiating-hormone-therapy[/URL]

[URL]https://mydoctor.kaiserpermanente.org/ncal/structured-content/Treatment_Feminizing_Hormone_Therapy.xml?co=%2Fregions%2Fncal[/URL]

That last one says "we can prescribe," so actual Kaiser doctors are doing this. Oh so sorry I can't point to Dr. Jones or Dr. Smith specifically. So, while I'm not saying any of this is a GOOD thing, it's definitely a thing. And you continue to be consistently wrong in virtually everything you post.

You're apparently completely ignorant about both male and female hormones. Women [B]already have[/B] estrogen and more estrogen won't make their tits bigger. But guess what? Biological women transitioning into being "men" take male hormones.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2696302]... Can you just try this exercise for me please:- I want you to think for a momnet about your inner self. What makes you a man. Are you a man? If the answer is affirmative, what is it that makes you think you are a man? Is it bcos a doctor told your parents you were a boy at birth? Is it bcos you happen to have a dick? Is it bcos you had your blood tested and you read that you have XY chromosomes? I suspect one or more of these might help, but I doubt any is the main reason. For example, imagine now that you did not have a dick. Everything else is the same, just you happen not to have a dick. Would you feel any less like a man? I very much doubt it. You feel like a man bcos you are a man. Same would be if you were born with breasts or a pussy. It would be the same you inside, saying that your a man.[/QUOTE]I want you to think for a moment, would you have sex with a woman that has a dick? The reason I post this question is because this issue has two sides.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2696308]I want you to think for a moment, would you have sex with a woman that has a dick? The reason I post this question is because this issue has two sides.[/QUOTE]"The feeling is mutual ".

What is it your feeling, Nounce? Hehe.

Ok, I will play along. At this point in my life, my inclination tells me no. BUt since the siutation has never arisen, least of all recently, I cannot say for sure.

Glad that you at least wrote "women". Much would come down to whether I fancied her or not. I only fancy chicks and I just find it difficult to imagine that I would fancy her if she had a dick. But maybe I would do it as a dare. When I was a lot younger I used to have a list of "10 things to do before I die". I don't remember what they all were, but I ticked them all off, so maybe I could add another one. But I doubt it would be a regular fetish. I had a BJ on Soi 6 one time from a trans. But never ventured to find out if she had a dick.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2696304]
[URL]https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/21653-feminizing-hormone-therapy[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Huacho, you are soooo predictable! I already answered this, knowing exactly where you were going before you had even got there! These are not men getting tits, these are women getting tits.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2696368]...

What is it your feeling, Nounce? Hehe.
..[/QUOTE]Another way to look at this issue, how will women feel when there is one in a naked locker room with dick, I don't have the answer and I think you probably don't either. What I am saying is that it is not black and white. Also what happens when the one with dick is aroused in front of all the other women.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2696371]Huacho, you are soooo predictable! I already answered this, knowing exactly where you were going before you had even got there! These are not men getting tits, these are women getting tits.[/QUOTE]You are just plain weird. Bye now.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2696408]how will women feel when there is one in a naked locker room with dick, I don't have the answer and I think you probably don't either. What I am saying is that it is not black and white. Also what happens when the one with dick is aroused in front of all the other women.[/QUOTE]In what circumstances will that ever happen? Last time I went in a bathroom, everyone had their clothes on. No one was walking around naked with a hard on. I will have to keep my eyes open for that in the future.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2696436]In what circumstances will that ever happen? Last time I went in a bathroom, everyone had their clothes on. No one was walking around naked with a hard on. I will have to keep my eyes open for that in the future.[/QUOTE]A bathroom is not a locker room, there is a difference just like there's a difference between a person with a penis and one without.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2696302]Am still waiting for someone to give me an answer. Getting tired of waiting so I will play it out for you all. Someone is going to put foward the name of a trans as an example of a man who was "given tits". Aind I am going to say that is not an example of a man, that is a woman. So there you have it.

MdS, Huacho, any other ignorant consevatves out there. Can you just try this exercise for me please:- I want you to think for a momnet about your inner self. What makes you a man. Are you a man? If the answer is affirmative, what is it that makes you think you are a man? Is it bcos a doctor told your parents you were a boy at birth? Is it bcos you happen to have a dick? Is it bcos you had your blood tested and you read that you have XY chromosomes? I suspect one or more of these might help, but I doubt any is the main reason. For example, imagine now that you did not have a dick. Everything else is the same, just you happen not to have a dick. Would you feel any less like a man? I very much doubt it. You feel like a man bcos you are a man. Same would be if you were born with breasts or a pussy. It would be the same you inside, saying that your a man.[/QUOTE]That's about as cowardly of a response as I've ever seen, even for you it's completely chicken shit.

The weakness in your argument (besides the obvious one that it's coming from you, and you're consistently bad at putting forth robust arguments), is it's completely undefined.

By your (lack of) reasoning, anyone who is prescribed hormone therapy is already the gender aligned with those particular hormones. If only you had learned to use Google.

Estrogen therapy is an option to treat men with schizophrenia. Hormone therapy is used as part of the treatment for prostate cancer. Testosterone is used to treat low sex drive in women. There are other uses.

A man taking estrogen as part of his prostate cancer treatment may experience breast growth. A woman treating low libido with Testosterone may grow facial hair or experience male pattern baldness.

It gets worse, for you.

There are many different definitions of gender. You're saying I'm a man because I feel like a man (does that make you a child because you feel children? But there are many different areas, legal and medical, which come into play.

Legally, in most places, until someone wins a legal challenge to change their gender, they are legally the gender assigned at birth.

This is particularly troublesome in the rare case of, for example, a child who is identified as male, due to an oversized clitoris and incomplete sexual development. Is that person male? Female? She will be socialized ad a male, treated as a male and probably identify as male, at least until puberty. She might feel as if she's male, solely due to socialization. Had gender been correctly identified at birth, would she reach puberty feeling female? Either way, you have a female, legally identified as male, who may self identify as either male of female (the same happens rarely with boys registered as girls because of incomplete sexual development).

If either instance eventually results in a doctor prescribing hormones to promote sexual development, you have all of these combinations:

1. A male, who identifies as male, legally classified as female, receiving hormones which causes breast growth.

2. A male, who identifies as female, legally classified as a female, receiving hormones which cause breast growth.

3. A female, who identifies as female, legally classified as male, receiving hormones which inhibit breast growth.

4. A female, who identifies as male, legally classified as male, receiving hormones which inhibit breast growth.

That's just for starters. It gets really complicated if you dig a bit deeper.

Continuing with the legal aspect, many situations require the completion of certain processes in the transition from one gender to another, before the person can be recognized as being the other gender. As Nounce pointed out, if just saying "I feel like a girl" defines gender, you're going to have a bunch of high school boys walking around naked with erections in girl's locker rooms (when you get done jerking off over that visual, read on).

In case you are still unaware, a locker room probably contains toilets, but it is not the same as a public bathroom. It has lockers (hence the name) where people can store their clothes and change to or from athletic apparel. There are also shower facilities. It's quite common to see naked people in locker rooms.

The medical issues of gender identification are numerous, involving sexual organs, chromosomes and hormones.

In part of this I agree with you. What a person's gender is is almost never of any concern to me.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2696439]A bathroom is not a locker room, there is a difference just like there's a difference between a person with a penis and one without.[/QUOTE]Ah right. I overlooked that. My apologies. I dunno, your correct. Most changing rooms I have been in had cubicles for changing anyway. And who is going to be most embarrassed? Am pretty sure the trans would be. If I was trans and had a dick, I think I'd keep my kickers on when I changed in public.

And yes, there is a difference between someone w a dick and someone without. Just as there is a difference between someone with a tattoo or ears pierced and someone without.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2696434]You are just plain weird. Bye now.[/QUOTE]Your the wierd one. Your like an ant. No matter how you try to stop it doing what it wants to do, it just goes stright back to doing it. It's pre-progammed that way and its impossible for it to be any otther way.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2696408]Another way to look at this issue, how will women feel when there is one in a naked locker room with dick, I don't have the answer and I think you probably don't either. What I am saying is that it is not black and white. Also what happens when the one with dick is aroused in front of all the other women.[/QUOTE]I understand your pov, but I think that it overlooks the flip side of that coin. You will have trans men having to use the women's locker room because they were born a girl but definitely look masculine now. Look up images of trans men, I wouldn't want my daughter to be in a locker room with a trans man and would much prefer people to go to the locker room they think they should be in. I also have a son, and I wouldn't want a trans woman to be forced to use the men's locker room because of some misguided government law. Forcing trans people into the bathroom by the criteria of the gender assigned at birth, or even worse their chromosomal makeup, is a terrible idea.

As before I welcome the discussion because I enjoy listening to different perspectives.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2696436]In what circumstances will that ever happen? Last time I went in a bathroom, everyone had their clothes on. No one was walking around naked with a hard on. I will have to keep my eyes open for that in the future.[/QUOTE]Haven't been to a women's locker room myself. I guess swim team's locker room and Sauna. Are you intentionally missing the point? LOL.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2696653]Haven't been to a women's locker room myself. I guess swim team's locker room and Sauna. Are you intentionally missing the point? LOL.[/QUOTE]No. For some unknown reason I read locker room to be bathroom. So I addressed it as best I could in my reposnse to ChuchoLoco, below. I expect most women would not see "the point" either. Haha.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2696530] Forcing trans people into the bathroom by the criteria of the gender assigned at birth, or even worse their chromosomal makeup, is a terrible idea.

As before I welcome the discussion because I enjoy listening to different perspectives.[/QUOTE]5 posts. Your correct. You don't say much! Hehe. But I am with you on this one. It's also a very overblown subject.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2696530]Forcing trans people into the bathroom by the criteria of the gender assigned at birth, or even worse their chromosomal makeup, is a terrible idea.[/QUOTE]I do not know about forcing people into a toilet. But what I do realize is that USA must be filled with a bunch of perverts. Traveling around the world I notice that this is not even an issue like Americans bring it up to be. In Asia and South America you see women cleaning the men's bathroom without a care in the world. Nobody is in there flashing their dicks or making unwanted advances. Trans (born male) usually use the ladies room. Chicks are never like ewww. Same thing if you go to a club. Ladies bathroom is full, so some will come into the men's to use it. Even at my nephew's graduation last week my sister said if the ladies was full she would just go into the men's to use it. How often do you guys even come across a trans person in your day to day living for this to be an issue? Usually people just go to use the toilet and get the fuck out. People are not trying to check out and hook up with the people next to them.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2696530]I understand your pov, but I think that it overlooks the flip side of that coin. You will have trans men having to use the women's locker room because they were born a girl but definitely look masculine now. Look up images of trans men, I wouldn't want my daughter to be in a locker room with a trans man and would much prefer people to go to the locker room they think they should be in. I also have a son, and I wouldn't want a trans woman to be forced to use the men's locker room because of some misguided government law. Forcing trans people into the bathroom by the criteria of the gender assigned at birth, or even worse their chromosomal makeup, is a terrible idea.

As before I welcome the discussion because I enjoy listening to different perspectives.[/QUOTE]I don't think you understand based on your question. My question will be voided if the women with dick have their own locker room or even their own bathroom.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2696730]I don't think you understand based on your question. My question will be voided if the women with dick have their own locker room or even their own bathroom.[/QUOTE]Or if you had cubicles. Nounce, what about if you had a CIS lesbian woman w a dildo? How would the other women feel then?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2696706]I do not know about forcing people into a toilet. But what I do realize is that USA must be filled with a bunch of perverts. Traveling around the world I notice that this is not even an issue like Americans bring it up to be. In Asia and South America you see women cleaning the men's bathroom without a care in the world. Nobody is in there flashing their dicks or making unwanted advances. Trans (born male) usually use the ladies room. Chicks are never like ewww. Same thing if you go to a club. Ladies bathroom is full, so some will come into the men's to use it. Even at my nephew's graduation last week my sister said if the ladies was full she would just go into the men's to use it. How often do you guys even come across a trans person in your day to day living for this to be an issue? Usually people just go to use the toilet and get the fuck out. People are not trying to check out and hook up with the people next to them.[/QUOTE]Can't keep the ignorant masses, brainwashed and ready to attack the latest 'threat" if you don't constantly rile them up over non-existent shit.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2696706]I do not know about forcing people into a toilet. But what I do realize is that USA must be filled with a bunch of perverts. Traveling around the world I notice that this is not even an issue like Americans bring it up to be. In Asia and South America you see women cleaning the men's bathroom without a care in the world. Nobody is in there flashing their dicks or making unwanted advances. Trans (born male) usually use the ladies room. Chicks are never like ewww. Same thing if you go to a club. Ladies bathroom is full, so some will come into the men's to use it. Even at my nephew's graduation last week my sister said if the ladies was full she would just go into the men's to use it. How often do you guys even come across a trans person in your day to day living for this to be an issue? Usually people just go to use the toilet and get the fuck out. People are not trying to check out and hook up with the people next to them.[/QUOTE]Unless they are a republican senator.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2696734]Or if you had cubicles. Nounce, what about if you had a CIS lesbian woman w a dildo? How would the other women feel then?[/QUOTE]Now you are getting it.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2696775]Now you are getting it.[/QUOTE]But that was a joke to show the ridiculousness of the situation.

Nymphette left our room to go down the hall and fetch her sister. Very comfortable room.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2696743]Can't keep the ignorant masses, brainwashed and ready to attack the latest 'threat" if you don't constantly rile them up over non-existent shit.[/QUOTE]Nah, that shit is creepy. I don't want to have to take a piss in the same room as a bull dike lesbian. It's too much change too fast. I really would not want to let a strange creepy old tranny take a shit in the same room as a young school girl. That has got to be borderline traumatic for a young girl, the young girls parents should also not have to witness that either. You are going to end up with old men dressing up like trannies just creeping around bathrooms. It won't be frequent, but it will definitely happen much more than it is now. Why ask 99% of society to change for the 1%? It just doesn't make logical sense.

What does make sense is that many modern extremists on the left will advocate policies which they know are "illogical" and "detrimental" to society because they want the traditional American society to destabilize and under go massive cultural change in which the views of the extremists are accepted and implemented. Unfortunately many Democrats in high positions of authority are working girls to the vote and are far more concerned with maintaining their own personal political power and influence. If it's between the politician doing what is financially, politically, and morally responsible or them backing extremist policies to win votes- the majority of the time they will working girl themselves out to get a few extra votes from the deplorables of society to win an election. Just look at the policies Democrats have advocated for in the last 15 or 16 years and see how things they used to advocate for like being strict on crime, lower taxes for working Americans, border security, having sufficient baby formula, etc have all shifted drastically. And the uneducated sheep will purposely blind themselves to more "logical" and "beneficial" policies and just vote for the candidate who says things which make them feel better in the moment rather than open their fucking eyes and select a candidate who is actually going to provide effective solutions to the problems of society.

In short I am not personally surprised after following the last few election cycles that Democrats want to support legislation to allow men dressing as women into women's bathrooms and allow men dressing as women to compete against women in sports. Of course none of these policies benefit society in any way, shape, or form. It is sad to see that it is no longer about doing what is "right" and only about backing policies that can win and defeat a Republican or a Democrat. And yes I know Republicans are almost as bad sometimes. It's very concerning to think about where this will all end and when the line will be drawn or if this divisiveness and extremism will eventually lead to violent conflict which will teach us all a lesson that our leaders failed us and we failed ourselves. There is no reason for one of the richest most successful nations in history to be this divided at this point in history.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2697071]Nah, that shit is creepy. I don't want to have to take a piss in the same room as a bull dike lesbian. It's too much change too fast. I really would not want to let a strange creepy old tranny take a shit in the same room as a young school girl. That has got to be borderline traumatic for a young girl, the young girls parents should also not have to witness that either. You are going to end up with old men dressing up like trannies just creeping around bathrooms. It won't be frequent, but it will definitely happen much more than it is now. Why ask 99% of society to change for the 1%? It just doesn't make logical sense.

What does make sense is that many modern extremists on the left will advocate policies which they know are "illogical" and "detrimental" to society because they want the traditional American society to destabilize and under go massive cultural change in which the views of the extremists are accepted and implemented. Unfortunately many Democrats in high positions of authority are working girls to the vote and are far more concerned with maintaining their own personal political power and influence. If it's between the politician doing what is financially, politically, and morally responsible or them backing extremist policies to win votes- the majority of the time they will working girl themselves out to get a few extra votes from the deplorables of society to win an election. Just look at the policies Democrats have advocated for in the last 15 or 16 years and see how things they used to advocate for like being strict on crime, lower taxes for working Americans, border security, having sufficient baby formula, etc have all shifted drastically. And the uneducated sheep will purposely blind themselves to more "logical" and "beneficial" policies and just vote for the candidate who says things which make them feel better in the moment rather than open their fucking eyes and select a candidate who is actually going to provide effective solutions to the problems of society..[/QUOTE]So every time I post, what I actually write and what gets posted always slightly changes. This time they changed where you see "working girls" or "working girl". I originally wrote "working girl". As in politicians "working girl themselves out". Very strange how it always changes.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2697071]Nah, that shit is creepy. I don't want to have to take a piss in the same room as a bull dike lesbian. It's too much change too fast. I really would not want to let a strange creepy old tranny take a shit in the same room as a young school girl. That has got to be borderline traumatic for a young girl, the young girls parents should also not have to witness that either. You are going to end up with old men dressing up like trannies just creeping around bathrooms. It won't be frequent, but it will definitely happen much more than it is now. Why ask 99% of society to change for the 1%? It just doesn't make logical sense.

What does make sense is that many modern extremists on the left will advocate policies which they know are "illogical" and "detrimental" to society because they want the traditional American society to destabilize and under go massive cultural change in which the views of the extremists are accepted and implemented. Unfortunately many Democrats in high positions of authority are working girls to the vote and are far more concerned with maintaining their own personal political power and influence. If it's between the politician doing what is financially, politically, and morally responsible or them backing extremist policies to win votes- the majority of the time they will working girl themselves out to get a few extra votes from the deplorables of society to win an election. Just look at the policies Democrats have advocated for in the last 15 or 16 years and see how things they used to advocate for like being strict on crime, lower taxes for working Americans, border security, having sufficient baby formula, etc have all shifted drastically. And the uneducated sheep will purposely blind themselves to more "logical" and "beneficial" policies and just vote for the candidate who says things which make them feel better in the moment rather than open their fucking eyes and select a candidate who is actually going to provide effective solutions to the problems of society..[/QUOTE]As mongers we're usually cultural relativists with a libertarian streak, be it on the left or the right, as we just want to live and let live as a direct extension of our hobby.

But yea, some people just don't get it.

Who wants "her" in a bathroom alone with your 12 year old daughter? The people pushing this are usually childless and / or the outcasts of society.

[URL]https://youtu.be/JdnBV-S-RXk[/URL]

Why is all of this an issue when Europe has unisex bathrooms and bathroom stall have cubicles? And of course, the only Democrats who were advocating tax cuts were a) the Southern Democrats or DINOs, and b) doing so when marginal tax rates were much, much higher. The Rs, in their never ending reverse Robin Hood tax cuts for the rich, love to talk about income tax cuts. Well, that is only one-third or less of the taxation story, along with sales and property taxes. Sales taxes used to be 2 or 3% and now they are 8 or 9%. And, of course, sales taxes are inherently regressive (and really fucking annoying). If the Rs wanted a fair tax cut that would help rich and poor alike, stop taxing Social Security. The income tax on that money has [B]already been paid[/B]. Reagan, of course, did that (although Clinton added the 85% bit), as well as taxing unemployment which is unbelievably stupid and flat out mean.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2697071] I really would not want to let a strange creepy old tranny take a shit in the same room as a young school girl. Why ask 99% of society to change for the 1%?
And the uneducated sheep will purposely blind themselves to more "logical" and "beneficial" policies and just vote for the candidate who says things which make them feel better in the moment rather than open their fucking eyes and select a candidate who is actually going to provide effective solutions to the problems of society.
legislation to allow men dressing as women into women's bathrooms and allow men dressing as women to compete against women in sports. It's very concerning to think about where this will all end and when the line will be drawn or if this divisiveness and extremism will eventually lead to violent conflict which will teach us all a lesson that our leaders failed us and we failed ourselves. There is no reason for one of the richest most successful nations in history to be this divided at this point in history.[/QUOTE]You touched on 2 very big subjects:

- Minority and specifically trans rights.

- Political parties representing the people.

Both are bigger subjects than we can address here but, since I am a great believer in the power of education and knowledge, I will comment here:

If we think about minorities in general, we can think of countless ways in which we already recognize and support minorities – not only to support their rights to prevent discrimination, but also to support them with their extra needs. Parentless children, people with physical and mental disabilities, the sick, people with different beliefs, people of different culture and racial roots, people with different political views, people with different sexual orientation, different skin colour. Why should trans be any different?

While I accept that people should rightfully recognize the need for personal safety, why do you think trans people in a ladies bathroom is any more of a threat than any other type of person in a bathroom? You wouldn't want a "strange creepy old" anyone around a "young school girl", or anyone else. So why discriminate against trans here? I hear your fear, but I don't view it as any different to the shift that society went through to rid itself of any other unfounded prejudice that was popular in the past – fear of women, fear of blacks, fear of homosexuals, I feel the fear of vegans. Now its fear of trans. It's an unfounded fear, it's borne of ignorance, and its discriminatory. It needs to be combatted through education and that's why it needs to be supported by government.

"There is no reason for one of the richest most successful nations in history to be this divided at this point in history. ".

This is a really interesting position bcos I feel the exact opposite.

To set the scene, the USA has always followed traditional mechanisms of rule inherited from the UK. This means that domestic and international politics is dominated by rich and powerful individuals and corporations – the oligarchs. These policies are designed to benefit the wealthy at the expense of the weak; it's a systematic exploitation of its own people and those of other nations. This is why we see a neglect of healthcare, of education, of housing, of infrastructure, and a lack of respect to the rights of people from weaker countries that hold natural resources. And it's why there is blanket control of mainstream media that represents the views of the oligarchs as if they are second nature. No other options exist, and other opinions are ridiculed as the views of extremists, dangerous madmen, or terrorists.

From 1820-1970 real wages in the USA rose without much pause due to economic prosperity caused by geographical, geological and political good fortune. From 1970 to date, real wages have fallen without break.

What caused this change in the 1970's? Various factors worked to reduce real wages:

• Prior to WW2, the USA was the New World in its golden age – a place of untold and readily available resources, huge expanses of undeveloped land – a country that was perfectly positioned to develop and deliver goods to a largely choked and overexploited Europe. Rapid economic expansion and the genocide of the indigenous people meant that there was always high demand for labour, meaning rising wages.

• The advent of computers in everyday life meant more automation – fewer jobs available.

• Aftereffects of WW2 – USA didn't enter the war until late and so was largely unaffected. All other super powers were destroyed. This meant USA had a free reign to dominate the world economy, which it did. This was a golden opportunity for the USA, but it was temporary and it changed in the 1960's-70's. Slowly Japan, Germany, later Korea, and now China, rose up to compete against and overcome US industry – initially motor vehicles, computers, entertainment systems, now pretty much everything bar war equipment. The US response was to move production overseas and buy imports – fewer jobs available.

• 1970's saw a cultural shift in the role of women. Encouraged to make a career, compete against men, be independent – greater demand for jobs.

• Due to global competition, foreign policy and imperialist exploitation of poorer nations, cheap labour flooded in to USA – greater demand for jobs.

But money didn't stop flowing in the economy. Rather, they caused a huge transfer of wealth from the people to the capitalists – they made enormous profits from automation and from cheap labour. Unfathomable sums of money were pushed up the ladder from the average Joe in to the hands of a few now- oligarchs.

How did the labour force respond to this reduction in wealth?:

• Working longer hours – since 1970's, average working hours has increased by 20%, whereas in Western Europe it has fallen by 20% over the same period.

• Taking on second jobs – there has been a huge increase in the number of people working 2 or 3 jobs, to make ends meet.

• Borrowing money – USA is now one of the most indebted countries in the world – right from student years, property ownership, through to hospitalization and death.

How did the capitalists respond?:

What to do when you have levels of wealth never seen before, yet a population that is increasingly unable to buy anything from you?

• Invested in the economy – they invested huge amounts of money in new tech companies. New companies that had never made a cent before but that promised a return in 10 years – the dot com bubble crashed the economy for years.

• Invested in financial support – they invested in financial institutions to lend money to the people to buy their products and property. The 1990's saw a removal of laws that prevented financial institutions from using customer deposits to make high risk loans – laws that were enacted to protect the public after the banking catastrophes that brought about the Great Depression. Within 8 years of repealing these laws – the housing loan bubble burst and the economy crashed again.

Now the economy is trapped in a systematic tailspin – the people no longer have the spending power to fuel the economy, and the oligarchs hold ever-increasing amounts of wealth with no positive options to use it, so they increasingly look externally for better market conditions. Ever greater numbers of people are swept up in the widening net, as the middle income classes crumble and join the poor as a resource to either exploit or neglect by the increasingly powerful oligarchs. Only a dramatic shift in state policy can change this, but the capitalists ensure the status quo is maintained by buying government policy. Corruption of the highest order. This is why we see a constant flip-flopping of policy between 2 parties that both represent the needs of the elites, not the people.

If that is not a reason to be divided, I don't know what is. But the divide should not Republican v Democrat; it should be the people vs the oligarchs.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2697290]Why is all of this an issue when Europe has unisex bathrooms and bathroom stall have cubicles? And of course, the only Democrats who were advocating tax cuts were a) the Southern Democrats or DINOs, and b) doing so when marginal tax rates were much, much higher. The Rs, in their never ending reverse Robin Hood tax cuts for the rich, love to talk about income tax cuts. Well, that is only one-third or less of the taxation story, along with sales and property taxes. Sales taxes used to be 2 or 3% and now they are 8 or 9%. And, of course, sales taxes are inherently regressive (and really fucking annoying). If the Rs wanted a fair tax cut that would help rich and poor alike, stop taxing Social Security. The income tax on that money has [B]already been paid[/B]. Reagan, of course, did that (although Clinton added the 85% bit), as well as taxing unemployment which is unbelievably stupid and flat out mean.[/QUOTE]Let's not act like the dems are the saviors of the poor / middle class and the repubs are the party of the rich. This isn't a freshman polysci course at a university. Both parties rob the country blind, both do insider trading, get kick backs from lobbys and contractors, especially this joke of a bill sending 40 bill to Ukraine to be slushed around among oligarchs and used to buy up all the cheap assets in a semi failed state.

The religious angle of the repubs like tom cotton and crew is annoying, but at least they have some moral standards left. The dems are in a race to see who can be the most "progressive" aka discarding any traditional family values be it the nuclear family, gender norms, and all pushing all the minority "oppression" garbage.

Reading some of this stuff I'm wondering WTF some of you guys are doing in public restrooms. It's a simple process. You go in, do what you need to do and walk out.

There aren't many things you can do in a public restroom without someone noticing something isn't right. If you're standing around in the women's room checking out little girls and trying to follow them into the stall you're going to quickly find yourself in handcuffs. It doesn't matter if you're male, female, trans or pretending to be trans.

In what world is some girl going to let someone grope her in the bathroom because they look like a girl? Would that work with you? If you're at the urinal and someone reaches around and grabs your junk are you okay as long as it's a man, or looks like one?

It's probably been 50 years since I was first warned to watch out for strangers in the restroom. I'm sure my sisters got a similar warning. It's nothing new, it's not a trans thing it hasn't changed anything and nobody is forcing you to change. You're just expected, as an adult to know how to behave in the bathroom. It doesn't matter who is also using the bathroom.

If you've taken a leak at an airport bathroom in Colombia you've almost certainly had a woman in there, cleaning. Do you scream like a child, or just finish your business and leave?

If you think some straight man (who isn't already a sex offender) is going to pretend to be trans to get into the girl's restroom, 2 things come to mind.

1. You must be extremely effeminate. For most of us men, we would need 2 hours with an expert makeup artist to pass as female from 10 feet away. Within the close quarters of a public restroom, forget about it. My size alone would make it impossible.

2. You have an unhealthy obsession with young girls in public restrooms. I've been obsessed with the female form since I was in diapers and that will continue until after I'm in diapers again, but all that sneaking into the girl's room fantasy ended after puberty.

To sum it up:

If you need to piss, piss. If you need to shit, shit. When you're done wash your hands and get the fuck out. Don't try to figure out the gender, sexual orientation, or circumcision status of the other people. Unless they are behaving abnormally for a public restroom, assume they can figure out how to piss without your help.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2697881]If you think some straight man (who isn't already a sex offender) is going to pretend to be trans to get into the girl's restroom, 2 things come to mind.

1. You must be extremely effeminate. For most of us men, we would need 2 hours with an expert makeup artist to pass as female from 10 feet away. Within the close quarters of a public restroom, forget about it. My size alone would make it impossible.

2. You have an unhealthy obsession with young girls in public restrooms. I've been obsessed with the female form since I was in diapers and that will continue until after I'm in diapers again, but all that sneaking into the girl's room fantasy ended after puberty..[/QUOTE]You seem out of touch with the current zeitgest. It isn't 1987. Nobody is worried about straight guys dressing in drag. It's the actual trannies people are worried about, as seen in the gamestop video I posted below. You've seen the trans SW in Botero, you think they're right in the head? I'm actually wondering how many trans people you've spoken to in the states, 90% are bat shit insane and have some sort of mental issue / autism.

As an example, there are these things called "cons". World con, gen con, it's like a nerdy gathering for cosplayers and anime aficionados. The signs explicitly mention that anybody can use any restroom regardless of how much they look like that "gender", and there has been a lot of backlash because you have guys in drag who aren't "straight guys", but trans guys, with 5 o clock shadows, using the women's bathroom.

I'm wondering how many non-pros you talk to as well, ask any woman if they want a trans shitting next to them and 90% will say hell no.

This is another good example of the "morally superior, tolerant" left gaslighting an issue and moving goal posts.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2695611]I mean imaging you like to go to this popular restaurant and there is always this person stations in the restaurant telling everybody the food is terrible, don't eat there. LOL.[/QUOTE]DF has taste. When I went to Colombia and Medellin, it was a huge disappointment. I went after having been in Argentina when it was hopping and Brazil. That said, if DF saw the Colombia I have, he would not have that attitude. When I saw the Monterrey, Mexico he saw, I changed my mind and liked it too. Routard's posts gave me hope I was missing part of what Colombia was about.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2695611]Do you think the argument here will turn out differently had you met with some of them before from the viewpoint of both sides? I remember you have met DF, that is why I posted.[/QUOTE]The difference is that DF knows I do not lie and that you have to spend the money to get women. So he would be happy for me because he knows I am not full of shit like so many guys here are.

The two sides comes from guys who are hanging out in the gutter and think the gutter is the only place to be. This I have been scoped or attempted to be scoped or papaya where stealing is expected is being in the gutter. I will go into the gutter to get fucked but I do not want to hang out there. If I did, I would say as one guy did all of Colombia is a hustle.

So giving money to women during the lockdown on seeking, ("Hey, I know things are rough and that you cannot work, but I want you to know that I am real and I want to help you out") had an incredible effect. This trip when the lockdown ended was an unprecedented run through of beauties including a bonafide 10 in Medellin and the beauty queen in Cartagena.

So DF would be like I am happy for you, and the gutter dwellers said spending that money was dumb, the beauty queen was fake, and I could have the 10 for $50 instead of $100. At the time, all these guys were in their basements too scared to go to Colombia.

Then I go down again a few months later and I meet my current gal. Fast forward a year, and my last night in Colombia I was eating at a super nice place on the outskirts of Cartagena with her friends, a lawyer and architect talking about Colombia among other things. What cracks me up is some of these guys are thinking they know the real Colombia, and it is like you are going to the ghetto in Detroit and then saying you know all about the United States.

It is funny even my own mother was lecturing me on what is best saying my brother loved his family and would rather be with them than doing what I was doing. The day after meeting the beauty queen my brother called and told me his son shit on his carpet and he had to clean it up. He asked me how my trip was and I told him I got a personal tour of Cartagena by Miss Cartagena but do not worry because mom said your life is better, and he died laughing.

So these guys remind me of my mother. They want to think their lives are better than mine, and I am full of shit. The idea that there is a Colombia where women do not scope men, steal when they can, and are constantly trying to hustle does not exist in their mind.

The whole thing about the best sex was this. If you found a woman who could stop traffic, was great in bed, really nice, and totally devoted to you, do you think it is possible you would not stray? It was not an appropriate question to ask of men who hang out in the slums. That was my bad.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2698183]The whole thing about the best sex was this. If you found a woman who could stop traffic, was great in bed, really nice, and totally devoted to you, do you think it is possible you would not stray? It was not an appropriate question to ask of men who hang out in the slums. That was my bad.[/QUOTE]Uhh yeah. A-Rod did it to J-Lo. Jay-Z did it to Beyonce. Donald did it to Melania. Nick Cannon did it to Mariah. Charles did it to Diana. JFK did it to Jackie. The list goes on forever throughout history. I guess the prince of England had been hanging out in too many slums.

The saying goes that no matter how fine you think a chick is, there is some guy somewhere that is tired of her shit. I wish the best for you though and that you continue down a blissful path.

And I don't know if this point has been raised, but transgendering in public restrooms has been going on for decades, but no one was in a hissy fit about about it because everything was going along fine, until it became a political hot potato.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2697881]Reading some of this stuff I'm wondering WTF some of you guys are doing in public restrooms. It's a simple process. You go in, do what you need to do and walk out.

There aren't many things you can do in a public restroom without someone noticing something isn't right. If you're standing around in the women's room checking out little girls and trying to follow them into the stall you're going to quickly find yourself in handcuffs. It doesn't matter if you're male, female, trans or pretending to be trans.

In what world is some girl going to let someone grope her in the bathroom because they look like a girl? Would that work with you? If you're at the urinal and someone reaches around and grabs your junk are you okay as long as it's a man, or looks like one?

It's probably been 50 years since I was first warned to watch out for strangers in the restroom. I'm sure my sisters got a similar warning. It's nothing new, it's not a trans thing it hasn't changed anything and nobody is forcing you to change. You're just expected, as an adult to know how to behave in the bathroom. It doesn't matter who is also using the bathroom.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2698150]You seem out of touch with the current zeitgest. It isn't 1987. Nobody is worried about straight guys dressing in drag. It's the actual trannies people are worried about, as seen in the gamestop video I posted below. You've seen the trans SW in Botero, you think they're right in the head? I'm actually wondering how many trans people you've spoken to in the states, 90% are bat shit insane and have some sort of mental issue / autism.

As an example, there are these things called "cons". World con, gen con, it's like a nerdy gathering for cosplayers and anime aficionados. The signs explicitly mention that anybody can use any restroom regardless of how much they look like that "gender", and there has been a lot of backlash because you have guys in drag who aren't "straight guys", but trans guys, with 5 o clock shadows, using the women's bathroom.

I'm wondering how many non-pros you talk to as well, ask any woman if they want a trans shitting next to them and 90% will say hell no.

This is another good example of the "morally superior, tolerant" left gaslighting an issue and moving goal posts.[/QUOTE]I just never got around to building a shrine to the Fox News panic brigade. Otherwise, I'm sure I would see it the way you do.

In my younger days I went to a few of the various conventions, I have younger friends and relatives who go to several every year. From the view of people who actually attend the conventions, instead of someone who believes "the sky is falling" reports from the aforementioned panic brigade, it seems to be a rare occurrence and a minor issue.

Let's see. As far as trans people. I spent about 6 months, every night in a bar located next to what was the biggest gay, trans, lesbian bar in Medellin. Quite often, because that club was generally packed on the weekends, gay, lesbian and trans people would come in and hang out. Since the manager was a lesbian (apparently now a somewhat famous singer), they mingled freely amongst the gringos and other customers with no problems.

I've spent a fair amount of time both around the Veracruz alley and Parque Bolivar and have seen the trans who frequent those areas. Other than one who tried to hug me, I've never noticed anything particularly disturbing about any of them. I'm not really qualified to just walk past someone and accurately diagnose their mental health, especially if they are just standing around doing nothing.

I lived for a year in Hillcrest, the gay community in San Diego. You saw all types, almost all of them causing no trouble at all. Although, closing time at the Lesbian bar often featured arguments because of jealousy. I also spent 4 years volunteering with an art therapy project in San Diego, which was almost exclusively either gay or trans men with AIDS. Again, all just normal behavior.

Almost forgot, I went out in Nashville one night, on Elvis Presley's birthday (1998? With 2 girls I knew from the area, a guy I knew from Michigan and a trans, I think from North Carolina. The trans had a crush on me and I didn't know she was trans, until well into the night when she asked if it bothered me. It didn't. I had no interest in her, just wasn't my type, but certainly wasn't batshit crazy. She ended up making out with an Elvis impersonator.

90% seems to be a common theme with you. What a bizarre coincidence that everything is 90%. It's almost as if you pulled the number out of your ass.

Trans people are more likely to have mental health issues. No question about it. Gays and lesbians are more likely to have mental health issues. People with obvious deformities are more likely to have mental health issues. It's quite obvious you fail to understand why and you never will.

You also won't understand this, but it's about as simple as I can make it. Compare the behavior of 2 dogs. One dog was raised as part of a family, it was always treated well, well fed, cared for and loved. The other dog was always beaten, yelled at, mistreated, abused in every way. If you take both dogs after 2 years and put them in the same, normal, safe environment, do they behave differently? Absolutely. Without a doubt. The abused dog might damage things, attack children or hide from people. In the dog world it has mental health issues. Do you understand why?

Many LGBTQ children suffer some level of abuse, because they are different. Years of abuse inhibits normal social development. Even without overt abuse, society tells them they aren't normal. Normal social development is necessary to assimilate into society. Failure to assimilate results in mental health problems. You find the same patterns in all people who are subject to childhood abuse. Abuse doesn't have to be physical.

How many non-pros do I talk to? I can't tell you. Except when I am physically in the act of paying a woman for sex, I don't classify people in that way. Just as I don't classify people as black, gay, young, paralyzed. They're all just people. When I'm writing about someone I will apply labels for the readers. Otherwise I'm getting PMs asking how much did I pay her.

I can tell you that I've never asked anyone, male, female, trans, pro, whatever, how they would feel about having a trans person shitting next to them. I will never ask that. I won't ask someone how they feel about someone black, Jewish, Muslim, Latino, Gay, Lesbian, Disabled or Republican shitting next to them. And if any woman tells me that she wouldn't want someone shitting next to her because they belong to a particular group, I would no longer be talking to her. Seriously, who in the world, in normal conversation asks someone "would it bother you if a (fill in the blank) was shitting in the bathroom stall next to you?

I don't approve of bigotry. I won't. And all of this is nothing but bigotry. If you're going to be a bigot, own it. Don't pussyfoot around.

Maybe the problem is, you don't know what a women's restroom looks like. Perhaps, like the clitoris, women's restrooms are something you know nothing about. I'll describe one. There's a door, inside there are some sinks, with a mirror, soap dispensers and some way to dry the hands. There may be flowers. There are toilets. Each toilet is located in a stall. Usually, each stall has a door which can be secured from the inside. There's also toilet paper, trash cans and possibly a dispenser for sanitary napkins and tampons.

Unless a person is shitting, bent all the way over and their head pressed against the floor, there's no way to know who is shitting next to you. You can maybe see what shoes they are wearing. That's all. You can't tell whether they have a penis or vagina, whether they had one removed and the other installed, whether they have facial hair or 3 arms.

Unless the person in the next stall tries to crawl into the girl's stall, or, they try to reach through, or in some way engage in abnormal bathroom behavior, the girl will be just like you. She won't have a fucking clue what's going on in the next stall.

Now if you will excuse me, I need to go to the bathroom and I don't want to keep you from displaying your bigotry.

I don't want to reply to a post that wasn't directed at me so I'll make one that addresses the topic in a more general way.

There have been trans people throughout history and they have figured out which bathroom and locker room works for them.

It seems that people who are against trans-women going to whatever facility that individual trans-woman wants to go into conveniently forget that if trans-women can't go to the facility of their choice, it also means that trans-men can't go into the facility of their choice.

So it's better to have a bearded trans-man who looks / acts / emotes as a man have to use the women's facilities? That doesn't make any sense to me and a lot of other people. And before anyone raises the impractical and non-real solution of making a dedicated trans bathroom, please think that through. Everywhere there are bathrooms will now be required to have a third type?

As far as trans people committing more violent acts than the general populace, I would really have to see some evidence for that.

I've read a Swedish paper that looks at this and it found =.

"The findings show that transsexual individuals were more likely to be criminal than non-transsexuals of the.

Same birth sex in the first cohort (1973-1988), and no different from their birth sex in the.

Second group (1989-2003)."

The first cohort (group) had hormones and surgery without adequate mental health provisions and the second cohort (group) had hormones and surgery with adequate mental health provisions.

So for the last forty years there hasn't been an increase in criminality from transgender individuals.

The study =.

Cecilia Dhejne, Paul Lichtenstein, Marcus Boman, Anna L. V. Johansson, Niklas.

Långström, Mikael Landéand (2011) Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons.

Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden.

Now there are a lot of statistics showing violence AGAINST trans people is MUCH higher than average.

I'm going to pick just one from as neutral a site as I can find.

[URL]https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ncvs-trans-press-release/[/URL]

The study found.

"Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime".

I like looking at non-anecdotal evidence. A lot of studies have issues and they can be addressed and scrutinized, but one random person isn't much of an indicator of anything.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2697422]Let's not act like the dems are the saviors of the poor / middle class and the repubs are the party of the rich. This isn't a freshman polysci course at a university. Both parties rob the country blind, both do insider trading, get kick backs from lobbys and contractors, especially this joke of a bill sending 40 bill to Ukraine to be slushed around among oligarchs and used to buy up all the cheap assets in a semi failed state.

The religious angle of the repubs like tom cotton and crew is annoying, but at least they have some moral standards left. The dems are in a race to see who can be the most "progressive" aka discarding any traditional family values be it the nuclear family, gender norms, and all pushing all the minority "oppression" garbage.[/QUOTE]What does any of what you just posted have to do with my post you quoted? However, anyone who cannot see that the Republicans are the party of the rich is suffering from a pretty severe case of rectocranial insertion. Hello? Repeated tax cuts at the top of the brackets? Hello? Zero percent capital gains rates? Hello? Regressive taxation of SS and UI? Hello? Hello? Anybody home? Cutting food stamps? Hello?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2698183]you have to spend the money to get women[/QUOTE]There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that [B]you[/B] have to spend money to get women. No doubt whatsoever at all.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2698259]Everywhere there are bathrooms will now be required to have a third type?
[/QUOTE]Only a thrid type? Why not a 4th type. One for trans men, one for trans women. And while we are at it, what about one for homosexuals and another for lesbians. And another 2 for ex-convicts. Men and women. How about one for scary black people. One for terrorist Muslims. The whole world is going to be turned in to a huge allotment of bathrooms for differetn monority groups that we do not like.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2698259]"Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime".[/QUOTE]That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.

There are too many contributing factors, whereas the statement tries to get you to believe trans people are just walking down the street minding their own business and some stranger violently attacks them. The most abuse occurs in lesbian relationships, but if I just said lesbians are often violently attacked, it is not telling you they tend to be abused by their own mates and leads you to believe someone outside of their personal circle is doing the abusing or attacking. So are these trans having violence done to them purely because they are trans or is it for other reasons, and by whom?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2698510]That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.[/QUOTE]Yep. Good old fashioned 8 transvestite / transsexual robbing crew. Now if one of the victims would have knocked the shit out of one of these guys for trying to pick pocket them that would have been counted in the stats as violence against a trans.

[URL]https://www.h13n.com/ocho-mujeres-trans-carcel-hurto/108410/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Huacho;2698428]There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that [B]you[/B] have to spend money to get women. No doubt whatsoever at all.[/QUOTE]And where were you when I was out fucking these women? Locked up in your house scared shitless of Covid. Why would I or anyone care what a cheap, drug taking, beer swilling, gutter dwelling coward thinks? You do not pay women money. You pay them with glue.

Webster's does not have to define loser in the dictionary. They can just show a picture of your face.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2698425]anyone who cannot see that the Republicans are the party of the rich is suffering from a pretty severe case of rectocranial insertion. [/QUOTE]Only people raised in the blinkered world of USA mainstream media would say such a obviously fallacious thing. The corrcet answer is "the Republicans are one of the parties of the rich ".

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2698183]DF has taste...[/QUOTE]My comment is not about his taste or he is wrong about Colombia.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2698183]
...
The whole thing about the best sex was this. If you found a woman who could stop traffic, was great in bed, really nice, and totally devoted to you, do you think it is possible you would not stray? It was not an appropriate question to ask of men who hang out in the slums. That was my bad.[/QUOTE]I think the main difference is you want exclusivity and something more than physical sex. Most mongers are happier with sharing and just physical sex. Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2698621]Only people raised in the blinkered world of USA mainstream media would say such a obviously fallacious thing. The corrcet answer is "the Republicans are one of the parties of the rich ".[/QUOTE] An astute observation, and this has been true for decades now. The last effort to torpedo this might have been Ross Perot and he was rich too! LOL.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2698608]And where were you when I was out fucking these women? Locked up in your house scared shitless of Covid. Why would I or anyone care what a cheap, drug taking, beer swilling, gutter dwelling coward thinks? You do not pay women money. You pay them with glue.

Webster's does not have to define loser in the dictionary. They can just show a picture of your face.[/QUOTE]Glue? And I smoke pot so if that makes me a drug taker then so be it. Gutter? I think that's where you found the putas you 'fell in love' with. I bet your woman sticks her finger down her throat after every sex session with you.

Glue. Ja ja ja. No idea where that came from. But you can just continue to be morbidly obese and disgusting physically and I'll just, you know, get way more and better pussy than you do. And when I do pay for it, I will know what I am paying for. You find expensive hookers and think they like you. I find cheap hookers and don't care. I think you forget sometimes we've actually met, and so I know for sure how full of shit you are.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2698510]That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.

There are too many contributing factors, whereas the statement tries to get you to believe trans people are just walking down the street minding their own business and some stranger violently attacks them. The most abuse occurs in lesbian relationships, but if I just said lesbians are often violently attacked, it is not telling you they tend to be abused by their own mates and leads you to believe someone outside of their personal circle is doing the abusing or attacking. So are these trans having violence done to them purely because they are trans or is it for other reasons, and by whom?[/QUOTE]It could be that the violent offenders of trans people are from the LGBT community, but I don't see much evidence of that. That's not saying there isn't any, I just haven't seen it. I look forward to you supplying evidence and I will read any peer reviewed study you link.

The point I was putting emphasis on was that trans people are not more prone to violence than the rest of the public.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2698594]Yep. Good old fashioned 8 transvestite / transsexual robbing crew. Now if one of the victims would have knocked the shit out of one of these guys for trying to pick pocket them that would have been counted in the stats as violence against a trans.

[URL]https://www.h13n.com/ocho-mujeres-trans-carcel-hurto/108410/[/URL].[/QUOTE]I also wish that the criminals received karmic justice. But do you kinda see how this anecdotal evidence doesn't refute the point that trans people aren't more violent than the rest of society? It would be like showing a video of a chicken beating up a hawk and generalizing that chickens are the real avian aggressors.

I'll link to the video of that happening because it's kinda funny. (No animals were really hurt).

Actually I'm not sure if I'll run a foul (LOL) if I post that kinda video so if anyone wants to see it just google:

Chicken beats an Eagle.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2698435]Only a thrid type? Why not a 4th type. One for trans men, one for trans women. And while we are at it, what about one for homosexuals and another for lesbians. And another 2 for ex-convicts. Men and women. How about one for scary black people. One for terrorist Muslims. The whole world is going to be turned in to a huge allotment of bathrooms for differetn monority groups that we do not like.[/QUOTE]Many places already have a third type, a large private bathroom for families or for people who need assistance.

I've just never understood the bathroom panic, but I've heard the same "logic" applied to different groups throughout my life. One of the hazards of growing up where racism and bigotry are considered to be virtues.

It all begins with "they're not like us."

"You have to watch out for the 'colored'. They're not like us."

"You can't go to church with him. He's Catholic and they're not like us."

"Don't talk to those men. They're homosexuals and they're not like us."

"Your friend can't spend the night. He's Amish and they're not like us."

"Those men are Jewish. They're not like us."

Now it's "they're Democrat / Republican. They're not like us.

Pick a label and someone is telling us "be afraid. They're not like us."

If someone is threatening me, the color of their skin, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, immigration status or gender identity doesn't matter. I'm not thinking "he won't hurt me because he's a straight, white Protestant from the midwest." I'm certainly not thinking "this is serious because that guy is wearing lipstick. " A threat is a threat, regardless of how you label the person.

The threat doesn't come from the groups people want you to label. It comes from individuals and from the people who want you to put labels on everyone.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2698510]That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.

There are too many contributing factors, whereas the statement tries to get you to believe trans people are just walking down the street minding their own business and some stranger violently attacks them. The most abuse occurs in lesbian relationships, but if I just said lesbians are often violently attacked, it is not telling you they tend to be abused by their own mates and leads you to believe someone outside of their personal circle is doing the abusing or attacking. So are these trans having violence done to them purely because they are trans or is it for other reasons, and by whom?[/QUOTE]That gets complicated. Here's a place to start:

[URL]https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/press-releases/fbi-releases-updated-2020-hate-crime-statistics[/URL]

To get some perspective, let's roll the calendar back about 65-70 years.

Today the hot equal rights issue is for trans people. That's why any of us are discussing this. Back in the 50's and early 60's, the big equal rights issue was for blacks. Same issue, different group who felt the laws didn't treat them equally and fairly.

You may have learned, during that time, some black people were the victims of violence. Some claimed they were discriminated against. Some claimed that segregation laws were wrong. Many white people argued that black people needed to be segregated, that they couldn't be allowed to integrate with whites. And I'm sure there were some who questioned whether or not the black on black crime wasn't more important than a few friendly lynchings.

Just something to consider.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2698637] this has been true for decades now. The last effort to torpedo this might have been Ross Perot.[/QUOTE]TBH I don't know much at all about him. Obv Bernie S would have been a great choice for the people, but he got torpedoed bcos he is not electable as a head of the Dem Party (for that very reason). Al Gore might have done well, although who knows how he would have reacted to the pressures from big money. And Jim Carter. What a great guy he has turned into! Sounds to be a real hero these days, but was a different person when he was president unfortunately.

There are a few that I have noted in the Dem Party, but they are far away from leadership at this stage ... and most are groomed and turn in to corporate shills as they rise thru the ranks. It's actually a good motivation for independence of the states - then there would be more opportunity for real progressive politicians to do something tangibly good.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2698637]An astute observation, and this has been true for decades now. The last effort to torpedo this might have been Ross Perot and he was rich too! LOL.[/QUOTE]The purpose of any group ultimately becomes the wealth and power of that group, particularly the wealth and power of the leaders. This holds true for all groups, from your local homeowners association, to your unions, to your political parties. Each group works to enrich and empower itself.

Democrats and Republicans use different tactics, and each group feels their methods are right and the others are wrong. Some individuals in each party are altruistic, they honestly believe they're working to make things better, but they're just there to be the poster child.

In the end, your choice in the matter makes no more difference than choosing your method of execution.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2698632]My comment is not about his taste or he is wrong about Colombia.[/QUOTE]I know. It was about his negativity. I think it was justified.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2698632]I think the main difference is you want exclusivity and something more than physical sex. Most mongers are happier with sharing and just physical sex. Thanks for sharing.[/QUOTE]Again, you are missing the point. I thought there was no way in hell I could be happy with one woman. I thought monogamy was a scam to keep man from his real nature. The best sex for me was going from woman to woman, and I was looking for the best sex. If that is not the goal of all mongers, I do not know what is. What stunned me was the best sex I have ever had came with monogamy.

Every relationship I have been in the women tail off sexually after a few months, and it is not just me. Studies have shown desire goes way down in both sexes in a relationship but with women it goes down much more quickly. To me, it is like, "Oh, I have got you now. I do not have to try in bed anymore. " So for me, if that is always the case, then why bother ever committing? So I kept women in a position where if they do not perform, I get rid of them. None of my sugar babies ever said "No sex tonight. I have a headache. ", yet women wanted all the fruits of a relationship even if they did not perform.

Huacho is a terd because he thinks women want him because he is in shape. He thinks beauty queens should want guys like him instead of me. He thinks it is all money, but it is not. All money does is attract. His little ego cannot take the notion that my game and character trump his physique. Thing about having a good physique is women like to think a strong man can protect them, but who cares if the the guy with a good physique is a paranoid coward?

Mr. E's comment is on point. Look at all these beautiful women and the guys who strayed. I get where he is coming from, and it justifies the monger POV of polyamory. The issue I have with it is if you look at it from a sexual POV, we do not know if say Beyonce was a good lover. She probably was. But Beyonce is not really yours. There was a good Netflix show called the Baker and the Beauty that touched on the issue. Everyone wanted the beauty's time.

Let's say Beyonce is great in bed, the best in bed. How many guys are really going to be sexually satisfied with her in a monogamous relationship? I doubt I would be. She is going to be so exhausted after performing for everyone else I doubt she would have the energy to care about performing and satisfying me.

And I have been with women from the top places: Playboy, Penthouse, breasturant calendar girls. A lot of them thought all they had to do was show up. I will never forget a Penthouse Pet who was horrible in bed.

What guys do not get with Ms. Cartagena is she runs her own charity and was doing physiology problems when I met her, so she was quality beyond just the looks. We had sex bareback and she was pretty good but then later that night she was ordering me around, "I want you to shower, shave, brush your teeth, and then get back into bed with me. " I do that and she is asleep. I called a different girl and was talking with her, and Ms. Cartagena heard me and stormed out of the hotel room.

She later told me that she was in love with me and it bothered her when I was talking to someone else. My comment when she said she loved me was "Well, that is nice, but I never promised you I would be exclusive. " She apologized and wanted me to see me again, but I never did. I do not give a fuck if you are Ms. Cartagena. If you do not sexually satisfy me, I am not going to commit, and I doubted she ever would satisfy me.

So to Mr. E's point with all these great women, were the women in all these cases sexually satisfying the men? My guess is more likely than not the answer is no. I wish some of the men would actually say that. When the woman says "You cheated on me", and the guy says "How would you expect any guy to not stray given your performance?" I am so sick and tired of men being shamed for their sexual desire.

So I disagree with you Nounce. I think mongers want great sex. I just think they have not found it in a monogamy relationship and given the way most women behave that belief is justified.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2698802]Huacho is a terd because he thinks women want him because he is in shape. He thinks beauty queens should want guys like him instead of me. He thinks it is all money, but it is not. [/QUOTE]Oh no. I am under no illusions that the women I pay 'want' me. You're the one who thinks that. But my body is not an instant turn off. It's true there is a segment of the female population that prefers big guys but for every one of those, there are at least ten who are completely turned off by that big fat belly coming at them. And you would never have the guts to call me a coward to my face.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2698834]Oh no. I am under no illusions that the women I pay 'want' me. You're the one who thinks that. But my body is not an instant turn off. It's true there is a segment of the female population that prefers big guys but for every one of those, there are at least ten who are completely turned off by that big fat belly coming at them. And you would never have the guts to call me a coward to my face.[/QUOTE]And it's all the worse when that big fat belly comes with a foul personality, in someone like Elvis who builds his life around arguing with strangers day after day in a monger forum. I'm sure that his momma is very proud.

Also when I insult somebody, I spell the insult correctly. Terd indeed. Fucken cerote.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2698802]...

Every relationship...[/QUOTE]This post has substance and I know you have great sex but I still don't know what it is. I think if I am going to commit to a single woman, she will have to be my equal and not dependent on me. I still don't think she can provide me better sex than a trained sex worker that potentially knows my body better than myself. I also don't like the woman tell me to shower and stuff, and I will not tell her that either.

Actually I am not sure if Elvis and I are so far apart right now. He says he is having the best sex of his life and I would say the same. I kind of found a perfect unicorn hooker and while it does not make me monogamous, I'm mostly too old and lazy to bother with anyone else. She comes over, we have some food and foreplay, then we blaze up, then we fuck, then I cook for her. Then we might fuck again, or not, and then I walk her three blocks home. I've had fellatio from oh say 500 women and this one is the best in recent memory. We met while living in the same building during COVID lockdowns. So I knew her as friend and neighbor before she revealed herself to be a hooker. Kind of a fluke and most people won't find their neighbor lady wanting to fuck for money.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2699003]I think if I am going to commit to a single woman, she will have to be my equal and not dependent on me.[/QUOTE]Exactly. And she better be smart as fuck. But I understand some people need to feel needed, and that usually does not come in an equal.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2699003]I also don't like the woman tell me to shower and stuff, and I will not tell her that either.[/QUOTE]Seriously? I have been out with some Latin American women all day then at night they want to climb their dirty ass between the sheets saying they took a shower that morning. No way Josefina. You better hop your ass in the shower before you get into this clean bed. I don't play that shit.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2698980]Also when I insult somebody, I spell the insult correctly. Terd indeed. Fucken cerote.[/QUOTE]That's not how one spells carrot.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2699022]Actually I am not sure if Elvis and I are so far apart right now. He says he is having the best sex of his life and I would say the same. I kind of found a perfect unicorn hooker and while it does not make me monogamous, I'm mostly too old and lazy to bother with anyone else. She comes over, we have some food and foreplay, then we blaze up, then we fuck, then I cook for her. Then we might fuck again, or not, and then I walk her three blocks home. I've had fellatio from oh say 500 women and this one is the best in recent memory. We met while living in the same building during COVID lockdowns. So I knew her as friend and neighbor before she revealed herself to be a hooker. Kind of a fluke and most people won't find their neighbor lady wanting to fuck for money.[/QUOTE]This sounds like a soft pull hooker to me. There was something she found attractive about you so she decided you were worth it and she could make some money while doing so.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2699304]This sounds like a soft pull hooker to me. There was something she found attractive about you so she decided you were worth it and she could make some money while doing so.[/QUOTE]She was / is financially desperate and did / does not want to go back to her own country but she was a hooker there too. I don't think she has any other regular clients here and she wasn't hooking when we were living in the same building. But she's been a hooker for a lot of her life. She'll probably hit menopause soon and then I'll be done with her. Might get two more years out of it (it's been almost two years now we've been seeing each other). Nice gal. Not Latina though, unfortunately.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2699110]...
Seriously? I have been out with some Latin American women all day then at night they want to climb their dirty ass between the sheets saying they took a shower that morning. No way Josefina. You better hop your ass in the shower before you get into this clean bed. I don't play that shit.[/QUOTE]I won't sweat the little things if I am in a committed relationship and she has to tolerate me too.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2698435]Only a thrid type? Why not a 4th type. One for trans men, one for trans women. And while we are at it, what about one for homosexuals and another for lesbians. And another 2 for ex-convicts. Men and women. How about one for scary black people. One for terrorist Muslims. The whole world is going to be turned in to a huge allotment of bathrooms for differetn monority groups that we do not like.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMBzfUj5zsg[/URL]

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[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/breast-reduction-feminism.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Huacho;2698834]And you would never have the guts to call me a coward to my face.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I would and then I would follow it up with "I have Coviid" and then watch your cowardly ass go hide in the corner and mutter to yourself, "I do not want to die". That is what you did for 2 years you fucking pussy so you do not get to mouth off about how tough you are, you POS fucking coward.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2699185]That's not how one spells carrot.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.aol.com/news/expert-monkeypox-likely-spread-sex-092239103-161733113.html[/URL]

Be careful out there.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2699571][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMBzfUj5zsg[/URL]

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[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/breast-reduction-feminism.html[/URL][/QUOTE]There are some things I don't agree with him on but for the most part, I agree with what he's saying.

I don't think that negates the points in favor of supporting trans rights.

Saying you don't think minors should undergo irreversible procedures isn't the same as saying trans rights should be treated equally.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2700428]There are some things I don't agree with him on but for the most part, I agree with what he's saying.

I don't think that negates the points in favor of supporting trans rights.

Saying you don't think minors should undergo irreversible procedures isn't the same as saying trans rights should be treated equally.[/QUOTE]The "seriously mentally ill" SMI aka bat shit crazy should have special legal protections?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2700646]The "seriously mentally ill" SMI aka bat shit crazy should have special legal protections?[/QUOTE]I don't think trans people have a greater likelihood of being seriously mentally ill than other groups, but I haven't seen studies on this.

They don't have special legal protections, I'm in favor of them choosing the facilities (bathrooms, changing rooms, locker room, etc.) that they've identified as.

To me a trans person is just a person whose brain is in the wrong body. Like if I put my guy brain in a woman's body. There would be a huge cognitive dissonance there.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2700739]To me a trans person is just a person whose brain is in the wrong body. Like if I put my guy brain in a woman's body. There would be a huge cognitive dissonance there.[/QUOTE]Okay, so would you then take hormones and / or mutilate yourself or would you find a way to deal with the hand you were dealt? Just some food for thought. Also I think it would be callow not to recognize that this 'trans' stuff is now hip and trending, and is a good way to get attention.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2700739]I don't think trans people have a greater likelihood of being seriously mentally ill than other groups, but I haven't seen studies on this.
They don't have special legal protections,
To me a trans person is just a person whose brain is in the wrong body. Like if I put my guy brain in a woman's body. There would be a huge cognitive dissonance there.[/QUOTE]Facts and logic are wasted on MdS. He will just ignore them and continue to spread his unsupported nonsense.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2700971]Facts and logic are wasted on MdS. He will just ignore them and continue to spread his unsupported nonsense.[/QUOTE]I don't go to MDE to fuck men, so I'm anti mental illness!

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html[/URL]

Just because these things were taken out of the DSM doesn't mean they still don't belong there!!

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html[/URL]

I thought ISG was supposed to be for hetero only? Im guessing you can find some gay/trans mongering forums somewhere else instead of trying
to polllute ISG with your psychotic nonsense!!

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2700739]To me a trans person is just a person whose brain is in the wrong body. Like if I put my guy brain in a woman's body. There would be a huge cognitive dissonance there.[/QUOTE]This makes no sense at all. It is like you can't miss what you never had. How would you know what it feels like to be a man if you have never been a man? You can only assume you feel like what a man feels like. Can someone actually describe what it feels like to be a man and someone says yes that is how I feel? I doubt it. Being a man or woman is one of those things that just is.

And what if social constructs like clothing were reversed? If women traditionally wore pants and men wore dresses and if makeup was not a thing? Or if men traditionally wore long hair and women wore short hair? Or everybody wore the same type clothing? Would those men that say they feel like women be in pants without makeup and with short hair? There would be no disguising the outside then and less unwitting people would mistake them for the opposite sex they were born as.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2701033]I don't go to MDE to fuck men, so I'm anti mental illness!



I thought ISG was supposed to be for hetero only? Im guessing you can find some gay/trans mongering forums somewhere else instead of trying to polllute ISG with your psychotic nonsense!![/QUOTE]See what I mean DSM?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2701044]How would you know what it feels like to be a man if you have never been a man? You can only assume you feel like what a man feels like. Can someone actually describe what it feels like to be a man and someone says yes that is how I feel? I doubt it. Being a man or woman is one of those things that just is..[/QUOTE]Your reasoning is self-defeating here mr E. How would any man know that what he feels is to be a man is the same as any other feels. You can never know inside the mind of anyone else. We simply accept it based on the evidence as it presents itself.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2701033]I don't go to MDE to fuck men, so I'm anti mental illness!

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html[/URL]

Just because these things were taken out of the DSM doesn't mean they still don't belong there!!

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html[/URL]

I thought ISG was supposed to be for hetero only? Im guessing you can find some gay/trans mongering forums somewhere else instead of trying
to polllute ISG with your psychotic nonsense!![/QUOTE]You don't go to Medellin. Period. End of sentence.

Countless times you've tried to pretend to have visited Medellin and you've failed miserably by not knowing things every visitor knows and by stating things which are false.

If you're anti mental illness why are you constantly here pretending to visit places where you've never been and will never go? If you truly were anti mental illness, you would get treatment for your own.

ISG is for the aid of people who travel internationally to have sex with women. Since you don't travel internationally it's not for you.

Some of the people who travel internationally to have sex with women aren't strictly hetero. At least on one of the forums there used to be a bisexual woman that posted. I'm sure there are bi men here as well.

If what other people might be doing in a country you've never visited, and never will visit, bothers you so much, go upstairs and watch the Hallmark channel with your mother.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2700959]Okay, so would you then take hormones and / or mutilate yourself or would you find a way to deal with the hand you were dealt? Just some food for thought. Also I think it would be callow not to recognize that this 'trans' stuff is now hip and trending, and is a good way to get attention.[/QUOTE]Thats exactly what dysphoria is huacho. Some don't suffer from it very much, and don't go for treatment, others do and feel they must undergo treatment.

Surely, its no different to a CIS woman that gets plastic surgery, or anyone that get surgery to "correct" what they feel is a "fault". Or even tattoos, or guys that feel inadequate unless they go to the gym and take steroids to look big. Many people take action to "correct" what they feel is a shortcoming / fault.

There is no need to see this as any different.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2701076]Your reasoning is self-defeating here mr E. How would any man know that what he feels is to be a man is the same as any other feels. You can never know inside the mind of anyone else. We simply accept it based on the evidence as it presents itself.[/QUOTE]That is exactly my point. So how can they feel like a man inside (or have the brain of a man as DSM put it) but have the body of a female, or vice versa?

So I'm a normal every day guy which I recently found out means I am a "CIS male" or some such nonsense. At my local bar, the alleged men's room has one open toilet and is dirty and full of empty beer cases. The alleged women's room is a lot cleaner, has no stinky empties, and has two toilets in cubicles. Men go in there all the time and guess what happens? Nothing. Why not stop thinking about bathrooms and start thinking about gun laws? Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2701033]I don't go to MDE to fuck men, so I'm anti mental illness!

I thought ISG was supposed to be for hetero only? Im guessing you can find some gay/trans mongering forums somewhere else instead of trying
to polllute ISG with your psychotic nonsense!![/QUOTE]And I thought the Medellin & Stupid Shit in Medellin ISG forums were for people who have actually been here and have something to contribute. But that sure doesn't seem to stop you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2701121]That is exactly my point. So how can they feel like a man inside (or have the brain of a man as DSM put it) but have the body of a female, or vice versa?[/QUOTE]The point is that their feeling is just as valid as mine or yours when we say we feel like a man. None of it can be really validated.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2701127]So I'm a normal every day guy which I recently found out means I am a "CIS male" or some such nonsense. '.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the 21st century.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2701428]Welcome to the 21st century.[/QUOTE]Yeah, he is MeenieWeenie PaTreeArKeeeee. #WaaahhHHhhhhhhhh.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2701033]I don't go to MDE to fuck men, so I'm anti mental illness!

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html[/URL]

Just because these things were taken out of the DSM doesn't mean they still don't belong there!!

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/magazine/phalloplasty.html[/URL]

I thought ISG was supposed to be for hetero only? Im guessing you can find some gay/trans mongering forums somewhere else instead of trying
to polllute ISG with your psychotic nonsense!![/QUOTE]This is baffling stupid. Why would you care why or where someone goes on vacation?

I thought ISG was for people planning on mongering internationally, and this specific forum for people who wanted to discuss stupid shit.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2701044]This makes no sense at all. It is like you can't miss what you never had. How would you know what it feels like to be a man if you have never been a man? You can only assume you feel like what a man feels like. Can someone actually describe what it feels like to be a man and someone says yes that is how I feel? I doubt it. Being a man or woman is one of those things that just is.

And what if social constructs like clothing were reversed? If women traditionally wore pants and men wore dresses and if makeup was not a thing? Or if men traditionally wore long hair and women wore short hair? Or everybody wore the same type clothing? Would those men that say they feel like women be in pants without makeup and with short hair? There would be no disguising the outside then and less unwitting people would mistake them for the opposite sex they were born as.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from. If you never traveled and yet wanted to see the world you would want it. Same thing with being a slave all your life, you'd want freedom even if you've never had it. You can desire something you've never had.

I think there is more to my perception of being a man than the social constructs around masculinity. I wear men's clothing because I feel part of a group that wears men's clothing. I think the same thing happens with trans-men. They feel like they are part of that group and don't have a body that matches their belief of who they are.

In the end I don't want to tell trans people what they can / can't do, either by government enacting laws or even voicing disapproval. If someone wants to undergo radical surgery that's fine with me. You can swing your fist as long as you don't impact another.

Where there's some gray area for me is sports and medical procedures done on minors.

There isn't any gray area for me on what facilities a trans-person chooses to use or what they do with themselves or other consenting adults.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2701539]I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from. If you never traveled and yet wanted to see the world you would want it. Same thing with being a slave all your life, you'd want freedom even if you've never had it. You can desire something you've never had.

I think there is more to my perception of being a man than the social constructs around masculinity. I wear men's clothing because I feel part of a group that wears men's clothing. I think the same thing happens with trans-men. They feel like they are part of that group and don't have a body that matches their belief of who they are.

In the end I don't want to tell trans people what they can / can't do, either by government enacting laws or even voicing disapproval. If someone wants to undergo radical surgery that's fine with me. You can swing your fist as long as you don't impact another.

Where there's some gray area for me is sports and medical procedures done on minors.

There isn't any gray area for me on what facilities a trans-person chooses to use or what they do with themselves or other consenting adults.[/QUOTE]Some of the stuff they are doing to young children before they are even psychologically developed is a travesty. Save all that shit until they are least 18 yo, and not because of some misguided, warped perception by parents with possible secondary agendas.

Watch out for post election violence. There have been threats against the leftist guy who was currently leading the polls. I guess it's both candidates are put up by the same people to give the illusion of choice but who knows.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2701539]I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from. If you never traveled and yet wanted to see the world you would want it. Same thing with being a slave all your life, you'd want freedom even if you've never had it. You can desire something you've never had.[/QUOTE]To desire and to miss something are two different things. There is a saying that goes be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. Sometimes people wish for or desire things and they have absolutely no idea what it entails or what would be the responsibilities that go along with that which they are wishing for.

How many times have you said if I had that girl then I would be on my P.S. And qs and do everything right for the rest of my life. Then you get that girl and you fuck it up or she is not what you expected? After the fact you realize you desired something in your life that you really did not need or want after all. Sure you can desire what you never had, but you certainly can not miss it. In order to miss something you have to had experienced it before.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2701754]Watch out for post election violence. There have been threats against the leftist guy who was currently leading the polls. I guess it's both candidates are put up by the same people to give the illusion of choice but who knows.[/QUOTE]Got to love the US state department. They sent out an alert about the election with some common sense info about avoiding demonstrations. And specifically calling out that there are no booze sales Sat 4 pm to Mon 12 pm. Thanks Uncle Sam! Helping us avoid getting hurt by someone else while helping us make sure we can hurt ourselves.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2701822]Got to love the US state department. They sent out an alert about the election with some common sense info about avoiding demonstrations. And specifically calling out that there are no booze sales Sat 4 pm to Mon 12 pm. Thanks Uncle Sam! Helping us avoid getting hurt by someone else while helping us make sure we can hurt ourselves.[/QUOTE]Not just US state departments. It's pretty much standard practice for most embassies, major foregn employers, NGOs. A few major NGOs forbid their in country employees to travel outside of major cities +/- 3 days of both election dates. Which is pretty stupid advice because it's far more likely there will be violence in cities than remote areas.

In cities, just chill in the bubble of security areas (northern chapinero, some of usaquen). Not a good time to go to candelaria.

Also, I disagree that if Petro wins there will be a larger chance of violence. I think actually there will be MORE violence if he doesn't.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2702012]If the leftist guy wins then the US will sanction Colombia as they did Venezuela and you may have an increase in the P4P industry here. More and more girls would seek to please gringos for pesos.[/QUOTE]No they won't. The US doesn't care who wins. Now if whoever wins threatens US Corporate income, then expect sanctions.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2701790]To desire and to miss something are two different things. There is a saying that goes be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. Sometimes people wish for or desire things and they have absolutely no idea what it entails or what would be the responsibilities that go along with that which they are wishing for.

How many times have you said if I had that girl then I would be on my P.S. And qs and do everything right for the rest of my life. Then you get that girl and you fuck it up or she is not what you expected? After the fact you realize you desired something in your life that you really did not need or want after all. Sure you can desire what you never had, but you certainly can not miss it. In order to miss something you have to had experienced it before.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree that there's a difference between miss and desire. I don't think I used the word "miss" though and if I did I made an error in semantics. To paraphrase what another boardmemeber said, you can't know what is in the mind of another person. He said it better though. Ultimately we can't know what another person is thinking and in this instance we really don't need to, it's their decision.

Just like how some women get huge implants in their boobs or butt. I think it's crazy and a dumb decision, but it's their decision to make. And to continue that train of thought, some of the really extreme body modifications I'm not too pleased share a bathroom with my 7 year old daughter. That's the price we pay for a free society though.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2702168]Yes, I agree that there's a difference between miss and desire. I don't think I used the word "miss" though and if I did I made an error in semantics. To paraphrase what another boardmemeber said, you can't know what is in the mind of another person. He said it better though. Ultimately we can't know what another person is thinking and in this instance we really don't need to, it's their decision.[/QUOTE]Definitely their decision. But it is probably safe to reason that the guy is thinking his life would be much better if he gets tits and chops his dick off, and a woman is thinking her life would be much better if she chops her boobs off and get a dick built. But that is probably very far from the truth. It is like the saying that money does not change people, it just magnifies who they already are.

Well getting sexual reassignment will not change a person, and I think they find that out once they have the surgery. They are the same person except they have done surgeries. I think that is why there is a high suicide rate among that group. They were expecting to be something they never were or could have been in the first place and were extremely disappointed after going through all that BS to find there was no magic at the end of the process. They are still that dude that is not a chick or that chick that is not a dude.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2702083]No they won't. The US doesn't care who wins. Now if whoever wins threatens US Corporate income, then expect sanctions.[/QUOTE]I agree. Argentina, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, Venezuela are all running by leftist parties. Brazil will likely elect Lula again. Only Venezuela is sanctioned by US.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2702088]Chavez / Maduro are / were not just leftist, they are communist and nationalized the oil industry, etc. I doubt that the US would do anything if it is merely a leftist government elected. Lots of places have that and are not sanctioned, etc.[/QUOTE]This guy is very dangerous, he is very active in the poor and uneducated barrios selling his free this and free that bullshit. And blaming the educated elite of Colombia for everything. Just say the "Squad".

Just say Biden and the left here and you see the damage they are capable of doing. At least here there is some controlling the left in Colombia they will have free reign.

If they lose look out, they will not go quietly, the protest and violence will be out of control.

"The goal of socialism is communism. ".

Vladimir Lenin.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2702201]Definitely their decision. But it is probably safe to reason that the guy is thinking his life would be much better if he gets tits and chops his dick off, and a woman is thinking her life would be much better if she chops her boobs off and get a dick built. But that is probably very far from the truth. It is like the saying that money does not change people, it just magnifies who they already are.

Well getting sexual reassignment will not change a person, and I think they find that out once they have the surgery. They are the same person except they have done surgeries. I think that is why there is a high suicide rate among that group. They were expecting to be something they never were or could have been in the first place and were extremely disappointed after going through all that BS to find there was no magic at the end of the process. They are still that dude that is not a chick or that chick that is not a dude.[/QUOTE]Recent studies show that going through the surgery significantly improves mental health and greatly reduces suicide rates.

[URL]https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/article-abstract/2779429[/URL]

Throughout history, every marginalized group has had a higher than normal suicide rate. Once the group is accepted by society, the numbers go down.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2702331]This guy is very dangerous, he is very active in the poor and uneducated barrios selling his free this and free that bullshit. And blaming the educated elite of Colombia for everything. Just say the "Squad".

Just say Biden and the left here and you see the damage they are capable of doing. At least here there is some controlling the left in Colombia they will have free reign.

If they lose look out, they will not go quietly, the protest and violence will be out of control.

"The goal of socialism is communism. ".

Vladimir Lenin.[/QUOTE]Load of nonsense, honestly. First. Biden's done basically nothing. Increased police and military budgets, continued trump's policies, maintained a conservative majority on the court. He's basically a republican with a the mask on.

Remember campaigning is just a load of bullshit. Think student loan cancellation, federal marijuana decriminalization, etc. It's the same here.

These leftists talk a huge game. Their heart is in the right place, with the working class / poor people. Then they realize the system is impossible to make any real improvements or do anything that actually helps. And the country just stalls out until the next election. As does the economy. Petro is great for us. The left is great for us mongers. It'll mean a weaker peso against the dollar. We don't want good leadership, we don't want someone who'll turn Colombia into a first world country. Even if they have a bad policies towards prostitution. So what? It's illegal in the US and that certainly doesn't change anything.

IMO, Fico is the real danger. If you look at who the 1%'ers in Colombia support. That's the person who's going to mean a strong peso and expensive mongering trips for us.

Rant aside:

Cra14 78-22. New "massage" casa with about 10 girls when I went today. Mostly in the 5-6 range, but they're young. Mostly average, the kind you'd see walking around in Chapinero after university closes.

30 min he massage is 70 mil. Hour's 150, with sex. Hour with multiple pops 230.

You can typically get the hour with multiple pops for 120-150 with independents.

That said. It's cheap (compared to Absolut) for the area if you prefer a safe location instead of an incall / outcall.

I'd repeat if I were close by, only for the 30 min rate.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2702168]Just like how some women get huge implants in their boobs or butt. I think it's crazy and a dumb decision, but it's their decision to make.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I do not care either but the question is who is paying for it? If it is that person, that is fine. When you start saying these elective surgeries are life saving and thus society should pay for it, I think that is bothersome to a lot of people.

[QUOTE=DontSayMuch;2702168]I'm not too pleased share a bathroom with my 7 year old daughter. That's the price we pay for a free society though.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but people with dicks were never allowed in women's locker rooms or bathrooms and again that is where the controversy is. I might be uncomfortable with a woman who thinks she is a man in my locker room, but with women, I think there is a safety issue the other way around. Outside of those few concerns, though, I do not give a fuck. People can like, do, fuck whatever. I don't care.

To me, where it gets interesting is likes and taste and especially in porn. It is funny how the argument that "you should watch male homosexual gay porn for mind expansion" has never been expressed that I am aware of. And yet there has been an incredible expansion with regards to the races and ages in porn.

It is weird though. I can love shows like Modern Family and Will and Grace but with the show the Amazing Race, it got to the point where I felt like the homosexual couples were being force down my throat and it was like, "Okay, that is enough guys. ", and that was not the only time.

I had been binging on dating shows lately on Netflix. One of the better ones was MTV's "Are you the one?" where men and women try to find their one true match as picked out by expert matchmakers. If everyone finds their match, everyone splits $1 million.

I loved this show and then they did a gay / trans version, and I could not even watch one episode. One (s) he person proclaims him / herself to be pansexual but if you want to find that one special someone, you are a monogamous pansexual? Not only can I not relate to the pansexual, I think a monogamous pansexual is a crock of shit. I get that reality shows are edited and not entirely honest, but this was just too much bullshit for me to swallow, and I could not relate.

It's that concept of being force fed something, being told I ought to be open minded enough to watch something that I kind of draw the line. I had a white friend who just went on and on about Tyler Perry, so we go to a live TP show and we are literally like the only white people there. Honestly, I was a little uncomfortable but that feeling soon faded because it was so fucking hilarious. Instead of whining about not enough blacks in movies or TV, this guy creates a product sold to a mostly black audience and became a billionaire.

So just like no one forces me to watch gay or trans porn, why should I have to deal with trannie love stories? Instead of guilting their way into mainstream shows, I wish they would develop their own and let us enter your world versus their forcing their way into ours. Maybe in the next 20 years, we will see a trannie billionaire catering to trannie audiences, and I will be telling my straight friends, "You got to see this trannie show."

[QUOTE=BearEmy84;2702512]Load of nonsense, honestly. First. Biden's done basically nothing. Increased police and military budgets, continued trump's policies, maintained a conservative majority on the court. He's basically a republican with a the mask on.

Remember campaigning is just a load of bullshit. Think student loan cancellation, federal marijuana decriminalization, etc. It's the same here.

These leftists talk a huge game. Their heart is in the right place, with the working class / poor people. Then they realize the system is impossible to make any real improvements or do anything that actually helps. And the country just stalls out until the next election. As does the economy. Petro is great for us. The left is great for us mongers. It'll mean a weaker peso against the dollar. We don't want good leadership, we don't want someone who'll turn Colombia into a first world country. Even if they have a bad policies towards prostitution. So what? It's illegal in the US and that certainly doesn't change anything.

IMO, Fico is the real danger. If you look at who the 1%'ers in Colombia support. That's the person who's going to mean a strong peso and expensive mongering trips for us..[/QUOTE]A left progressivist government has never been good for mongering activities, sooner or later there will be a deep cleaning of prostitution places, massages parlor, 'clubs, casas. It did happen every where the progressist have taken control. Colombia is soon a dead place for mongering so enjoy it now because if's soon over.

[QUOTE=BearEmy84;2702512]Load of nonsense, honestly. First. Biden's done basically nothing. Increased police and military budgets, continued trump's policies, maintained a conservative majority on the court. He's basically a republican with a the mask on.

Remember campaigning is just a load of bullshit. Think student loan cancellation, federal marijuana decriminalization, etc. It's the same here.

These leftists talk a huge game. Their heart is in the right place, with the working class / poor people. Then they realize the system is impossible to make any real improvements or do anything that actually helps. And the country just stalls out until the next election. As does the economy. Petro is great for us. The left is great for us mongers. It'll mean a weaker peso against the dollar. We don't want good leadership, we don't want someone who'll turn Colombia into a first world country. Even if they have a bad policies towards prostitution. So what? It's illegal in the US and that certainly doesn't change anything.

IMO, Fico is the real danger. If you look at who the 1%'ers in Colombia support. That's the person who's going to mean a strong peso and expensive mongering trips for us.

Rant aside:

Cra14 78-22. New "massage" casa with about 10 girls when I went today. Mostly in the 5-6 range, but they're young. Mostly average, the kind you'd see walking around in Chapinero after university closes.

30 min he massage is 70 mil. Hour's 150, with sex. Hour with multiple pops 230.

You can typically get the hour with multiple pops for 120-150 with independents.

That said. It's cheap (compared to Absolut) for the area if you prefer a safe location instead of an incall / outcall.

I'd repeat if I were close by, only for the 30 min rate.[/QUOTE]As far as the left's heart is in the right place is true, true for the grunts that are carrying the water for the party leaders. However, the leaders could care less about the masses. In every instance the everyday citizens in every country where the socialist have control, NOTHING is better for them. Socialism is the incubation for Communism, another colossal failure. And Biden. Jaja por favor, where do I start.

Inflation, crime, gas prices, border chaos shortages etc, etc, etc. All of which happened once he / his controlling handlers took over. But I regress. This is not about politics in the USA. It's about the wonderful people of Colombia who I have grown to love.

Keeping it about Colombia. Many Colombians have a very difficult life, working for slave wages, the dangers they are exposed to everyday on the bus / transmilenio in an effort just to get home from work is very sad, spending 6/7000 pesos on transport a day, just to get to a job that pays 30,000 some odd pesos a day, and the socialist have no answer to this, instead they burn down the only sysem the people have to get to and from work. It took my novia and her family 5 and 6 hours just to get home because of the protests and riots a while back. The same problems faced by Venezuelans and Cubans are they better off? Not by a long shot. Better for mongers? No, not at all. Take a look at the Cuban women getting arrested on the Malecon for just talking to a gringo. Better for mongers? I don't think so, how many of us are traveling to Caracas to monger in this great Socialist environment? I'm not sure what the answer is but to totally tear down the system, try Socialism again in light of every socialism disaster? I don't think so. One thing I know is necessary. Stop making the working class the victem of all the crime, everyone of my novias family have had thier phones stolen again and again, her father was shot in the head by robbers a block from his house on the way to the tienda, and spent over a month in a coma. The Socialist only interest is in over throwing the current party in charge and getting power to continue exploiting the working class. Unfortunately the current party in charge or whoever gets in charge will have very little incentive to keep any of the bullshit promise they make. It's about power for whoever gets in and power corrupts.

On another note, I had to cancel my flight to Bogota because of the massive flight cancellations and the ridiculous Prices. My direct flight from Atl to Bog was once 400 range is now over a thousand, I'm sure that is a deterrent for my budget minded brothers on this site. Be safe.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2701699]Some of the stuff they are doing to young children before they are even psychologically developed is a travesty. Save all that shit until they are least 18 yo, and not because of some misguided, warped perception by parents with possible secondary agendas.[/QUOTE]I agree. I think all children should be removed at birth from parents, lest they be indoctinated by them in to being trans, or being religious, or having the wrong politcal views, or any line of thinking or belief that I do not accept or believe is the correct one.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2702537] Instead of guilting their way into mainstream shows, I wish they would develop their own and let us enter your world versus their forcing their way into ours. Maybe in the next 20 years, we will see a trannie billionaire catering to trannie audiences, and I will be telling my straight friends, "You got to see this trannie show."[/QUOTE]Its not a million dollar show but I watch it regularly, is a weekly YT show called The Transatlantic Call in Show. Its great enetertainment and educational. I recommmend it.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2702778]As far as the left's heart is in the right place is true, true for the grunts that are carrying the water for the party leaders. However, the leaders could care less about the masses. In every instance the everyday citizens in every country where the socialist have control, NOTHING is better for them. Socialism is the incubation for Communism, another colossal failure. And Biden. Jaja por favor, where do I start.

Inflation, crime, gas prices, border chaos shortages etc, etc, etc. All of which happened once he / his controlling handlers took over. But I regress. This is not about politics in the USA. It's about the wonderful people of Colombia who I have grown to love.

Keeping it about Colombia. Many Colombians have a very difficult life, working for slave wages, the dangers they are exposed to everyday on the bus / transmilenio in an effort just to get home from work is very sad, spending 6/7000 pesos on transport a day, just to get to a job that pays 30,000 some odd pesos a day, and the socialist have no answer to this, instead they burn down the only sysem the people have to get to and from work. It took my novia and her family 5 and 6 hours just to get home because of the protests and riots a while back. The same problems faced by Venezuelans and Cubans are they better off? Not by a long shot. Better for mongers? No, not at all. Take a look at the Cuban women getting arrested on the Malecon for just talking to a gringo. Better for mongers? I don't think so, how many of us are traveling to Caracas to monger in this great Socialist environment? I'm not sure what the answer is but to totally tear down the system, try Socialism again in light of every socialism disaster? I don't think so. One thing I know is necessary. Stop making the working class the victem of all the crime, everyone of my novias family have had thier phones stolen again and again, her father was shot in the head by robbers a block from his house on the way to the tienda, and spent over a month in a coma. The Socialist only interest is in over throwing the current party in charge and getting power to continue exploiting the working class..[/QUOTE]Could we keep the dissertations from the doctors of political science in the stupid shit thread where they belong?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2702810]Could we keep the dissertations from the doctors of political science in the stupid shit thread where they belong?[/QUOTE]How did you get off the ignore list SFB.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2702918]How did you get off the ignore list SFB.[/QUOTE]You'll have to ask the fool who manages your ignore list.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2702720]A left progressivist government has never been good for mongering activities, sooner or later there will be a deep cleaning of prostitution places, massages parlor, 'clubs, casas. It did happen every where the progressist have taken control. Colombia is soon a dead place for mongering so enjoy it now because if's soon over.[/QUOTE]Can you give some examples or are you just talking out your arse bcos you know nothing about socialism and its all too scary for you?

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2702778]however, the leaders could care less about the masses..[/QUOTE]Surely that's a good thing, no?

I would love to respond to your comment in detail but you wrote so much bollox that it is not worth my time.

All i can day is viva Petro!!?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2703251]Can you give some examples or are you just talking out your arse bcos you know nothing about socialism and its all too scary for you?[/QUOTE]LatinLover#1 listed two examples.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2703260]LatinLover#1 listed two examples.[/QUOTE]You mean his comments about Cuba and Vnzla? - they made no sense whatsoever.

"The same problems faced by Venezuelans and Cubans are they better off? Not by a long shot. Better for mongers? No, not at all. Take a look at the Cuban women getting arrested on the Malecon for just talking to a gringo. Better for mongers? I don't think so, how many of us are traveling to Caracas to monger in this great Socialist environment?

The reason these 2 struggle is due to the US embargo agsint both countries. Nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with the client vassel state stadning up against the mafia boss.

Do Cubans work in sex under socialism? Of course they do! What evidence does he have that it was better for mongers before Castro? None.

And Vnzlns too. Millions of them forced in to prostitution by the immoral embargo on Vznla by the capitalist bully. A fantastic bonanza for mongers.

So quite frankly, he is talking bollox. Its just a Gish Gallop against and an illogical attack on socialism without any substance.

Did you know that almost 98% of the universe is hydrogen and helium?

So the other 2%, the minority elements are what give life and diversity to our universe. If there were no minorities, our world would be very boring and mundane indeed. Just leaving that one out there.

Great speech by the president of Bolivia, about the growing popularity and power of political parties for the people in Latin America.

He calls for a shared homeland in South America. Hopefully Colombia will soon stop being the outtcast vassal state of the USA and join withtheir brothers and sisters to present a united front against oligarchy and exploitation of the people.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kZhX_FuVU[/URL]

[QUOTE=JustTK;2704346]Great speech by the president of Bolivia, about the growing popularity and power of political parties for the people in Latin America.

He calls for a shared homeland in South America. Hopefully Colombia will soon stop being the outtcast vassal state of the USA and join withtheir brothers and sisters to present a united front against oligarchy and exploitation of the people.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kZhX_FuVU[/URL][/QUOTE]I am curious how you view Colombia / Latin America as a vassal state to the USA? Do not fluff your answer with an irrelevant history of racism in the USA. I want to hear how today in 2020 in a land as rich and plentiful in Natural Resources as Colombia you think their poverty is the fault of the USA or "Oligarchs". I am not exactly sure what a "modern" vassal state is in your opinion, but this is how I interpreted your post. If I am wrong I apologize. It just seems ridiculous to me that a nation with a 500 year documented history and a population of over 50 million could be coerced into a mutual agreement with the USA which could result in a relationship which would hurt Colombia financially. Now I am sure the USA could use its global influence to get Colombia to perhaps agree to a financial relationship in which the USA gets the better of the deal, but I cannot comprehend how you could view any relationship between the two nations as a "Vassal" type relationship as you defined it. Any treaty Colombia is going to sign with another nation is going to somehow benefit Colombia, or they wouldn't sign the thing in the first place.

The USA has been a "Godsend" to the people of Latin America. The hard working, ambitious, innovative, highly educated, industrialized, and noble citizens of the USA have brought massive amounts of wealth, industry, political ideology, technology, and infrastructure to Latin America. After spending a great deal of time traveling to Latin America, I feel like Americans are the modern day slaves. Many Americans, especially white males, put their careers first and foremost before anything. This comes at a sacrifice in many other areas of life, such as a social and family life. To many American white males, to not succeed is unacceptable and anything less is an unforgivable sin. This is why white American males by far have the highest suicide rates. We place a very high value on our self worth in our ability to truly dedicate ourselves to a craft or a skill or in modern day terms a "career". This unselfish dedication is what has contributed most to building western society into the greatest most advanced civilization the world has ever known. I hope Latin America likes airplanes, nuclear power, automobiles, antibiotics, and democracy- because they all came from a group of people who most contributed to the success of the USA and this excess wealth and technology, has for generations spilled over into Latin America and even allowed many people from Latin America to come seek employment opportunities in the USA. I sometimes wonder what it would have been like to grow up in Colombia and just roam the streets, hang out with my friend, sell drugs, and bang smoking hot women for the first 25 or 30 years of my life like many Colombian men. It doesn't sound like a bad time at all. Sometimes I feel like Americans are the fools. Many Americans spend their youth staying up all night studying in school, training in competitive athletics to bring pride to your family and community, showing up to work on time no matter how sick or tired.

To me, when people state things like, "Colombia is a vassal state to the USA", it just comes off as really ungrateful be. S. And an excuse as to why maybe their country is not as wealthy as the USA. Wealth isn't everything, but if you don't put the work in you will not a nation of home owners, suv drivers, full pensiones, and healthcare with the best doctors in the world.

Hehehe In case you are wondering, I don't really believe all the be. S. I just wrote and I did write it to annoy all the liberals out there. Don't snap back at me too hard, but it is always a good idea to try to look at things from all perspectives.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2704524]The USA has been a "Godsend" to the people of Latin America. The hard working, ambitious, innovative, highly educated, industrialized, and noble citizens of the USA have brought massive amounts of wealth, industry, political ideology, technology, and infrastructure to Latin America.[/QUOTE]We were especially kind to Colombia by relieving it of Panamá by starting a fake revolution, and perhaps even kinder to Guatemala by using the CIA to overthrow their freely elected president. And obviously we were a godsend to México by stealing half their territory via the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and the Gadsden Purchase. Just before gold was discovered at Sutter's Mill. México didn't need all that gold or the ports and coast of California and Oregon anyway. Nor the minerals in CO or AZ. The noble citizens of the Yew Ess deserved it much more because of Manifest Destiny and the Monroe Doctrine. And of course the Yew Ess engineered the outcome of the Mexican Revolution, whereupon the candidate they supported ran off with the entire treasury and was killed by his own security detail.

We did a bunch of noble shit in Chile too, assassinating their freely elected president. The Yew Ess is really a godsend to so may places, like Vietnam. Just so very noble, all that happened there.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2703329]

The reason these 2 struggle is due to the US embargo agsint both countries. [/QUOTE]You need to read the book Animal Farm.

You have just tried to rewrite history here my friend and I just want to clarify the facts. I was dating a Venezulan chica on and off when all this was going on. She eventually went back to her family in Caracas but we kept in touch for years and she was telling about what was happening as it happen.

Fact: The reason that the Venezualen economy collapsed was because Hugo Chavez put "price controls" in place and merchants could no longer charge enough for their products to get what they needed to resupply with imports. Because price controls are a fantasy. All this happened at least 5 years before the US put any sanctions on them meanwhile the governement officals all live like oligarchs in Venezuela.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-socialmedia/shaming-chavistas-venezuela-activists-decry-officials-luxury-lifestyles-idUSKBN18T2AD[/URL]

[QUOTE=JustTK;2703329]You mean his comments about Cuba and Vnzla? - they made no sense whatsoever.

"The same problems faced by Venezuelans and Cubans are they better off? Not by a long shot. Better for mongers? No, not at all. Take a look at the Cuban women getting arrested on the Malecon for just talking to a gringo. Better for mongers? I don't think so, how many of us are traveling to Caracas to monger in this great Socialist environment?

The reason these 2 struggle is due to the US embargo agsint both countries. Nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with the client vassel state stadning up against the mafia boss.

Do Cubans work in sex under socialism? Of course they do! What evidence does he have that it was better for mongers before Castro? None.

And Vnzlns too. Millions of them forced in to prostitution by the immoral embargo on Vznla by the capitalist bully. A fantastic bonanza for mongers.

So quite frankly, he is talking bollox. Its just a Gish Gallop against and an illogical attack on socialism without any substance.[/QUOTE]USA is only 5% of the global population. Cuba can still trade with the European Union, Russia, China, and all of the South American nations, let's throw in African nations as well. Now how do you explain the fiscal irresponsibility of the Cuban and Venezuelan governments? Hmmm, maybe it's due to corruption and socialism? Nahhh- lets just blame it on the USA and ignore the fact that the two nations are run by dictators who refuse to allow democracy or a free market to determine the course of peoples lives and income. Who cares if corrupt dictators live in mansions while their beloved citizens eat out of the trash and father's allow their daughters to sell their pussies daily just to feed themselves. Let's just look the other way and totally blind ourselves to the millions of people who have fled these nations to the USA and other countries. I am not saying I agree with the USA embargo on the two countries, but I do believe their political and economic systems are to blame for the corruption of their government and their failing economy.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2704602]You need to read the book Animal Farm.

You have just tried to rewrite history here my friend and I just want to clarify the facts. I was dating a Venezulan chica on and off when all this was going on. She eventually went back to her family in Caracas but we kept in touch for years and she was telling about what was happening as it happen.

Fact: The reason that the Venezualen economy collapsed was because Hugo Chavez put "price controls" in place and merchants could no longer charge enough for their products to get what they needed to resupply with imports. Because price controls are a fantasy. All this happened at least 5 years before the US put any sanctions on them meanwhile the governement officals all live like oligarchs in Venezuela.
[/QUOTE]It must be reassuring for you to know that the facts of modern day Vnzla are held in a fictional book written 70 years ago. And in the anecdotal knowledge of some girl that you know. I used to think that history was written by the vicstors of war, but clearly I was wrong. It was indeed written by some foreign gent 70 years before the event and by some random bird you met on your travels. Now that sounds like an episode for a new Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy book. Hehe.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2704533]We were especially kind to Colombia by relieving it of Panama by starting a fake revolution, and perhaps even kinder to Guatemala by using the CIA to overthrow their freely elected president. And obviously we were a godsend to Mexico by stealing half their territory via the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and the Gadsden Purchase. Just before gold was discovered at Sutter's Mill. Mexico didn't need all that gold or the ports and coast of California and Oregon anyway. Nor the minerals in CO or AZ. And of course the Yew Ess engineered the outcome of the Mexican Revolution, whereupon the candidate they supported ran off with the entire treasury and was killed by his own security detail.
We did a bunch of noble shit in Chile too, assassinating their freely elected president. The Yew Ess is really a godsend to so may places, like Vietnam.[/QUOTE]And Dom Rep, Hiaiti, Nicaragua, Honduras, Granada, Puerto Rico, El Salvador, Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, Paraguay. And that's just the past 100 years. The USA is the benevolent friend of all in Latinland, a real godsend. In fact, there are not many countries in the region that have not benefitted from the hand of the USA.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations[/URL]

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change[/URL]#1917:_Costa_Rica.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKwJI9axblQ[/URL]

[QUOTE=JustTK;2704702]In fact, there are not many countries in the region that have not benefitted from the hand of the USA.[/QUOTE]There is nothing for free. It is all give and get. China has started their thing in Africa and people are talking about how the Chinese are taking advantage of whatever. Depends on perspective. If the people were there thousands of years doing nothing with the resources and living in what some say are substandard conditions and some outsider comes and raises their standard of living while at the same time taking the resources that were laying there unused, is that a robbery?

Personally, I think it was genius that DeBeers convinced Westerners that a hole full of shiny rocks was worth something. Is it their fault that the natives did not think of it first?

[QUOTE=Huacho;2704533]We were especially kind to Colombia by relieving it of Panam by starting a fake revolution, and perhaps even kinder to Guatemala by using the CIA to overthrow their freely elected president. And obviously we were a godsend to Mxico by stealing half their territory via the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and the Gadsden Purchase. Just before gold was discovered at Sutter's Mill. Mxico didn't need all that gold or the ports and coast of California and Oregon anyway. Nor the minerals in CO or AZ. The noble citizens of the Yew Ess deserved it much more because of Manifest Destiny and the Monroe Doctrine. And of course the Yew Ess engineered the outcome of the Mexican Revolution, whereupon the candidate they supported ran off with the entire treasury and was killed by his own security detail.

We did a bunch of noble shit in Chile too, assassinating their freely elected president. The Yew Ess is really a godsend to so may places, like Vietnam. Just so very noble, all that happened there.[/QUOTE]Colombia refused to negotiate with the world to create the Panama Canal, so the Panamanians struck a deal to get the canal built and create a new nation. They then built the canal for the benefit of the world and the people of that region who still benefit from its' profits to this day. Look how much more wealthy Panama is compared to other Latin American nations. The world needed that shipping route and Colombia was standing in the way of global progress. I still don't condone the way it was done, but this did also take place during the "Age of Imperialism" when the strength of a bad actor's military was still mightier than the pen, this was just a reality of the time period. The United States using its' size and strength was not unique to just the USA, but all the world's most powerful nations.

Did Mexico have the means to extract and utilize the natural resources and bring civility and infrastructure to the lands in its' Northern Territories? No, they had 300 years to do it and they had just a few thousand settlers living there. For years, the USA pleaded with Mexico to allow the USA to purchase it's territory to build railroads which crossed the continent so the continent could be settled and cities and towns built where civilized modern societies could proser, but Mexico refused over and over again. This doesn't justify the war and it is still fucked up how the USA and Mexico settled this issue with violence, but again, this occurred almost 200 years ago in a very different time period and if you were not working tirelessly to defend and secure your territory, you were going to lose it. This was typical among all societies all over the world, look at the wars of Napoleon in Europe and the various conflicts and revolutions of South America. This is why Mexico quickly realized the war was not worth it and quickly surrendered and negotiated to sell these lands to the USA. And all that being said, I don't condone anything about the Mexican American War, but there is much more to it, than Americans are evil and took Advantage of Mexico. Do Americans still to this day sit around and cry about the "War of 1812" because the British attacked us and we blame all our problems on the British from wars that occurred 100,150, or 200 years ago- no we don't, because its silly.

The Gadsen Purchase was land Mexico peacefully sold to the USA.

Do not rewrite history with non-sense like, "The USA engineered the Mexican Revolution". There is no evidence to support that statement.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2704697]It must be reassuring for you to know that the facts of modern day Vnzla are held in a fictional book written 70 years ago. And in the anecdotal knowledge of some girl that you know. I used to think that history was written by the vicstors of war, but clearly I was wrong. It was indeed written by some foreign gent 70 years before the event and by some random bird you met on your travels. Now that sounds like an episode for a new Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy book. Hehe.[/QUOTE]How many countries is Venezuela allowed to trade with? Hmmm, are you sure its not corruption and socialism destroying the country? The USA only represents 5% of global population.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2704766]How many countries is Venezuela allowed to trade with? [B]Hmmm, are you sure its not corruption and socialism destroying the country?[/B] The USA only represents 5% of global population.[/QUOTE]I'm sure. Venezuela is a rank dictatorship propped up by the military. The US is more 'socialist' than Venezuela.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2704346]Great speech by the president of Bolivia, about the growing popularity and power of political parties for the people in Latin America.

He calls for a shared homeland in South America. Hopefully Colombia will soon stop being the outtcast vassal state of the USA and join withtheir brothers and sisters to present a united front against oligarchy and exploitation of the people.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kZhX_FuVU[/URL][/QUOTE]JustTK, I put $1500 into a Bolivian fund that represented a wide variety of Bolivian businesses. The broker was surprisingly honest. That fund under Maduro eventually went to $0. Had I put that money in an equivalent American fund, it would be worth $4000 today. Around the same time, I bought a company in Chile. If I had bought $1500 it would have went to $5000. I bought a Venezuelan company that had the best numbers of any company I had ever seen. With that $1500, I got $2000 after Hugo Chavez bought it and nationalized it. I bought an Argentine company that had vast real estate holdings and the price of real estate in Argentina soared while the stock did not. That asset appreciation all went to the owners of the stock.

The shocking part to me was going to a Venezuelan shareholder meeting where I got to see up close and personal how Venezuelans were. Even though Venezuelan law stipulated that 25% of all net income had to be paid out in dividends and Verizon owned 24% of the stock, I had to listen to worker after worker * about money being sent to the Verizon gringos. The workers were mad that the law was being followed and money was "wasted" by being sent to the rich gringos at Verizon. Meanwhile, Verizon / GTE had sprung for all the infrastructure in the country. They had built a thriving business and it was doing so well that Chavez decided to come in and steal it. Instead of asking to buy the company from shareholders, Chavez demanded the company and paid $20 a share. It was my feeling that the current value of the stock was $100 and could go up to as high as $500, but the Venezuelans were so deeply entrenched with the gringo ripoff they had the belief Chavez would be better.

In the end, Chavez tried to pull the same shit with oil companies. The world was thinking peak oil and Chavez thought companies like Exxon had to deal with them. Nope. Exxon invested in the USA and shale tech. Thing is the cost of production is 20 X that of the USA then it is in Venezuela but they knew how Chavez was. He would never keep his word. Every time, he would claim a company was cheating Venezuela, he would come in and either steal it or give pennies on the dollar. It was not just the gringos. The Chinese put a billion into a poultry farm and even had Chinese workers, and the Venezuelans managed to bankrupt that operation.

In the end, Venezuela, which has the largest oil reserves in the world, has seen their production shrink to just a trickle. By controlling every facet of the economy it left Chavez no competition for power, and the guy who so hated money and the rich so much smuggled $8 billion in cash and put it in his daughter's name who lives in the gringo city of Miami.

So how is Bolivia accomplishing an economic miracle when it is doing all it can to steal from investors? It is the same as Venezuela. Chavez got rid of all the legal businesses but the drug trade fought him and was allowed to flourish, and this current Bolivian president is talking about growing "legitimate" cocoa. Give me a fucking break. The Bolivian economic miracle is due to nothing but cocaine sales. If the USA ever got its head out of its ass and allowed drugs to be sold like it did with marijuana, the USA would be exporting cocaine to Bolivia because we could probably produce it better and cheaper than Bolivia could.

When I hear the rallying cry that government is the answer to everything and gringos are evil, I can scratch off investing a nickel into that country. Venezuela should be as rich as Saudi Arabia, and the reason it is not because people like me will never put one penny into until the culture is changed. The easiest way to have a poor country is saying government is going to fill all the people's needs. That shows contempt for those investors and managers who develop businesses that really cater to people's needs.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2704766]How many countries is Venezuela allowed to trade with? Hmmm, are you sure its not corruption and socialism destroying the country? The USA only represents 5% of global population.[/QUOTE]The USA uses the IMF and World Bank and plain old intimidation to get compliance from other countries to follow its demands.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2704764]The Gadsen Purchase was land Mexico peacefully sold to the USA.[/QUOTE]Actually Santa Anna was broke (again), NM's governor unilaterally declared parts of the Mesilla Valley to be part of the Yew Ess, and Stephen Douglas and William Walker were putting pressure on México militarily. And this was only a few years after Guadalupe Hidalgo so the treaty was not 'negotiated. ' It was signed under duress. Just as was the Hay-Herran Treaty. After we offered Colombia either $25 or $75 million and they said no, we didn't negotiate. We just took it. See, for example:

Deeds, Susan M. (1996). "Gadsden Purchase". Encyclopedia of Latin American History and Culture. Vol. 3. New York: Charles Scribner's Sons. Pp. 1–2.

Ibarra, Ignacio (February 12,2004). "Land sale still thorn to Mexico: Historians say United States imperialism behind treaty". Arizona Daily Star.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2704764]Do not rewrite history with non-sense like, "The USA engineered the Mexican Revolution". There is no evidence to support that statement.[/QUOTE]Dude. Wilson backed Carranza against Villa and Zapata and sent troops in to México (that is known as an [B]invasion[/B]) to overthrow Huerta. The US Navy [B]shelled Veracruz[/B]. Do you truly not know this stuff? He sent General Pershing and 12,000 troops after Villa (unsuccessfully).

[URL]https://veteranmuseum.net/research-united-states-interventions-in-mexico/[/URL]#text=President%20 Woodrow%20 Wilson%20 was%20 reluctant, by%20 seizing%20 the%20 port%20 of.

One of the first things Wilson did after he was inaugurated was pressure him to resign, and imposed an arms embargo when he did not. Read Freidrich Katz's 'The Secret War in México,' or Alan Knight's 'The US and the Méxican Peasantry,' to give two of the many examples of evidence. Or just read this wiki article:

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_the_Mexican_Revolution[/URL]

"the USA Navy bombarded the port of Veracruz and occupied Veracruz for seven months. Woodrow Wilson's actual motivation was his desire to overthrow Huerta.

Or: "The prevailing view among historians has been that Wilson interfered and intervened in México incessantly".

That's from 'Woodrow Wilson's Mexican Policy, 1913-1915' by KA Clements.

Maybe you prefer the Encyclopedia Britannica: 'The constitutionalist forces won the support of Woodrow Wilson, the new USA President, who refused to recognize Huerta, constitutionalist forces = Carranza.

And yeah, Panamá is now wealthy relative to most of Latin América. All of that should have accrued to [B]Colombia[/B]. The efforts of de Lesseps shows that Colombia was willing to let a canal be built, just not for the price the Yew Ess was willing to pay.

You sound you still believe in 'manifest destiny' and appear to have no problems with the Monroe Doctrine. You should have been at Dien Bien Phu fighting for the French.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2704764]Do not rewrite history with non-sense like, "The USA engineered the Mexican Revolution". There is no evidence to support that statement.[/QUOTE]Don't misquote me. I said they engineered the [B]outcome[/B]. But, there's plenty of evidence they did both.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2705087]The USA uses the IMF and World Bank and plain old intimidation to get compliance from other countries to follow its demands.[/QUOTE]It's called Neo-Colonialism and it's economic control minus outright invasion. There's some videos and a book called "Economic Assassin " or something close that tells the story for anyone who may want to learn more.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2703674]Did you know that almost 98% of the universe is hydrogen and helium?

So the other 2%, the minority elements are what give life and diversity to our universe. If there were no minorities, our world would be very boring and mundane indeed. Just leaving that one out there.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/pride-month-encourage-women-to-smell-their-poop-to-be-more-inclusive-to-trans-women-pridemonth2022/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Huacho;2705129]Don't misquote me. I said they engineered the [B]outcome[/B]. But, there's plenty of evidence they did both.[/QUOTE]I will admit I haven't studied the Mexican American War or the Mexican Revolution extensively. I will say though that its' absolutely pathetic if Mexico allowed another country to engineer the "outcome" of their revolution. Common sense tells me a nation as large as Mexico wouldn't allow such a thing to happen. I can't believe Mexicans are that stupid, weak, and gullible to allow the USA to do such a thing. Then again, they did roll over quite easily in the Mexican American War and the mighty Aztecs were conquered by a few hundred conquistadors and a few thousand slaves, so perhaps you are right.

Humans have a long history of greed fueling warfare and of course Americans are no stranger to this.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2705124]Actually Santa Anna was broke (again), NM's governor unilaterally declared parts of the Mesilla Valley to be part of the Yew Ess, and Stephen Douglas and William Walker were putting pressure on Mxico militarily. And this was only a few years after Guadalupe Hidalgo so the treaty was not 'negotiated. ' It was signed under duress. Just as was the Hay-Herran Treaty. After we offered Colombia either $25 or $75 million and they said no, we didn't negotiate. We just took it. See, for example:

Deeds, Susan M. (1996). "Gadsden Purchase". Encyclopedia of Latin American History and Culture. Vol. 3. New York: Charles Scribner's Sons. Pp. 12.

Ibarra, Ignacio (February 12,2004). "Land sale still thorn to Mexico: Historians say United States imperialism behind treaty". Arizona Daily Star..[/QUOTE]No, I am very familiar with the subject. Please tell me though, what did the USA have to gain by engineering the "outcome" of the Mexican Revolution like you claim?

Sorry, I meant to say I am not very familiar with the subject.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2705285]No, I am very familiar with the subject. Please tell me though, what did the USA have to gain by engineering the "outcome" of the Mexican Revolution like you claim? Sorry, I meant to say I am not very familiar with the subject.[/QUOTE]The president before Huerta, Madero, promised land reform including expropriating idle land, much of which was foreign owned. This was a threat to US, UK, German, etc., economic interests. Huerta had Madero killed, which Wilson liked, but then Huerta turned out to be a crazy, unreliable drunk and Wilson felt he could not 'control the country,' which also threatened US economic interests. So the US engineered the victory for Carranza against Villa and Zapata, because Carranza was a wealthy owner who supported the existing constitution vs. The proposed and eventual 1917 constitution allowing expropriation.

In the case of Guatemala and Juan Jacobo Árbenz Guzmáand, Árbenz in 1952 expropriated [B]idle[/B] land from United Fruit Company and redistributed it to peasants for housing. Then he supported a wage increase from about fifty cents a (10 hour) day to about seventy-five cents a day. This was at a time when the US minimum wage was about the same per [B]hour[/B]. The former president of United Fruit, Thomas Dulles, was the brother of US Secretary of State John Foster Dulles. TD was still on the board of directors and JFD had previously been a board member. So they sent the CIA in, trained a force in Somoza's Nicaragua, and simply overthrew Árbenz. Somoza was another despot the Yew Ess supported, along with Noriega, José Efraíand Areíos Montt, etc.

Then the Yew Ess fucken exiled Árbenz, his wife, and his daughter to [B]three different countries[/B]. Árbenz drank himself to death in México and his daughter committed suicide in Colombia. Not satisfied to have merely overthrown him, they persecuted him and his family for the rest of his life, running disinformation and smear campaigns.

And of course the CIA continued to overthrow freely elected presidents they deemed too progressive, such as Salvador Allende in Chile.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2705124]You sound you still believe in 'manifest destiny' and appear to have no problems with the Monroe Doctrine. You should have been at Dien Bien Phu fighting for the French.[/QUOTE]Excellent post. You read books. You must not be American. I see another of them justifying the Boer genocide. A quick flick through the other posts, all American ignorance.

Good old Panama and Noriega who went from American puppet to American prisoner.

You mention General Pershing, a real ****, even by American standards. On Armistice Day, 11-11-1918, he got his men to charge the German lines a few minutes early so they could have hot showers. The incredulous Germans waved them to wait but no. They needed their showers. German machine gunners showered them with lead. They were among the last fatalities of the Great War. Great General Pershing.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2705381]Excellent post. You read books. You must not be American. I see another of them justifying the Boer genocide. A quick flick through the other posts, all American ignorance.

Good old Panama and Noriega who went from American puppet to American prisoner.

You mention General Pershing, a real ****, even by American standards. On Armistice Day, 11-11-1918, he got his men to charge the German lines a few minutes early so they could have hot showers. The incredulous Germans waved them to wait but no. They needed their showers. German machine gunners showered them with lead. They were among the last fatalities of the Great War. Great General Pershing.[/QUOTE]LOL, Nah, now WW1 I know a bit about and Pershing was a true hero. He will be remembered forever as such as well.

It's strange how today people are so proud that their countries or their ancestors got fucked up by the USA and then they pretend their people are so great because they didn't have the means, the balls, or the gumption to band together to even fight a war. And look at all the countries who sat on the side lines, now they are still living in poverty because they couldn't take a stand and fight for their people or they foolishly elected corrupt leaders who were bought by more powerful nations, or they just let dictators destroy their societies. LOL It's just weird how people love to make themselves victims today, all that matters is that someone comes from a country that was defeated and raped by another country and that makes them a good person. Personally, I am kinda sick of that hearing that pussy shit. Anybody who hates on a guy like Pershing is just a fucking sour grape crybaby-back *****! Hahaha. Take my post with a grain of salt and if I offended anyone, I am just being a dick and don't take it serious please.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2705685] And look at all the countries who sat on the side lines, now they are still living in poverty because they couldn't take a stand and fight for their people or they foolishly elected corrupt leaders who were bought by more powerful nations, or they just let dictators destroy their societies.[/QUOTE]What about Switzerland? Neutrality works well for them. And Argentina rose to be the seventh largest economy in the world following WWI by remaining neutral. Argentina was the first country to successfully export beef overseas using refrigerated shipping (1879) and the desire to ship beef (grain too) to both sides of combatants featured heavily in their decision to remain neutral, despite the historic ties with the British.

But you were probably born a jingo. Often jingoes are born and not made.

Check out the graph here "Positivity Rate by Vaccination Status" ? You can control by age.

[URL]https://www.walgreens.com/businesssolutions/covid-19-index.jsp[/URL]

Shows that vaxs are doing FK all to prevent victims, sry I mean patients, from contracting CV.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2705867]Check out the graph here "Positivity Rate by Vaccination Status" ? You can control by age.

[URL]https://www.walgreens.com/businesssolutions/covid-19-index.jsp[/URL]

Shows that vaxs are doing FK all to prevent victims, sry I mean patients, from contracting CV.[/QUOTE]I was reading the other day that it is even worse if you are boosted.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2705685]LOL, Nah, now WW1 I know a bit about and Pershing was a true hero. e.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.armytimes.com/veterans/salute-veterans/2017/11/10/nov-11-1918-wasted-lives-on-armistice-day/[/URL]

There is an article for you. Pershing was a prize kunt. No more to say on it.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2705867]Check out the graph here "Positivity Rate by Vaccination Status" ? You can control by age.

[URL]https://www.walgreens.com/businesssolutions/covid-19-index.jsp[/URL]

Shows that vaxs are doing FK all to prevent victims, sry I mean patients, from contracting CV.[/QUOTE]One of these days these dumb Dems will figure out how the media is manipulating them. We just saw the hysteria with Ukraine. We need to support our brothers fighting Democracy, and it is like $40 billion is passed onto the defense companies with very little oversight and shortly after that, the headlines are "Russia is winning the war."

With Covid, we had to spend billions on vaccines. The question everyone asked with Covid if someone was sick was, "Are you vaccinated?" and if the answer was no, it was like a green light to treat that person like shit as they were so irresponsible. Of course, this data shows the vaccine do jack shit with regards to getting Covid. In fact, the group least likely to get Covid is the unvaccinated group. If there were talk in the news of Covid every day, I am sure "scientists" would manipulate the data in such a way to say that the lower rates of the unvaccinated getting Covid were "not statistically significant", but because Covid is not in the news every day, no one cares.

And there were billions in wasted vaccine to boot, but no one cares about that either. [URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/covid-vaccine-doses-wasted-rcna31399[/URL].

Like the defense industries got their money, Pfizer and Moderna got theirs. I am not sure these vaccines will even be offered / available after the moratorium on lawsuits is lifted. They are worthless now and are dangerous to boot.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2705942][URL]https://www.armytimes.com/veterans/salute-veterans/2017/11/10/nov-11-1918-wasted-lives-on-armistice-day/[/URL]

There is an article for you. Pershing was a prize kunt. No more to say on it.[/QUOTE]Yeah let's go through history and judge people by their worst moments and do our best to destroy the legacies of the people who made the most contributions. That will certainly work out well for society LOL.

Dar Papaya- in English, it basically means if you act like an asshole and let people take advantage of you, they will. It's human nature.

Mexico and Latin America love to "Dar Papaya" for other countries. Let's pull our pants down, bend over, and lube our asses up. Then when America comes in and fucks us up our taco shitting asses, we'll cry rape and pull the victim card for the next 200 fucking years and this will be our excuse to never get our fucking shit together. In the 1800's, the quality of life sucked for even the richest countries. If you were not constantly working to secure and maintain your territory, train a functional and effective military, constantly seeking out diplomatic solutions and treaties to keep peace and commerce with other countries, work to exact and utilize your nation's natural resources as well as provide the infrastructure, education, and training for your workforce- then guess what- another country is going to come along and take your shit. All the countries of the world knew the rules of the game during this time period. The government of Mexico and Latin America were negligent and their people paid the price for it unfortunately. It's sad what happened and I would never condone the actions of the USA for their policies regarding the Mexican-American War, but I will also not vilify them and refuse to acknowledge the reality of the time period.

Is it fair for nations not to pull their weight and allow population booms in their countries when they don't have the infrastructure, education system, food, water, and economy to support their population which then places an unfair burden on the nations who are fulling its' obligations to society and the global population?

Where I come from, if you act like an asshole- expect to be treated like one. If you want respect- you must give it and earn it. If you come into another man's home- do not bite the hand that feeds you. I used to think those morals were universal, but sadly I am realizing they are not.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2705759]What about Switzerland? Neutrality works well for them. And Argentina rose to be the seventh largest economy in the world following WWI by remaining neutral. Argentina was the first country to successfully export beef overseas using refrigerated shipping (1879) and the desire to ship beef (grain too) to both sides of combatants featured heavily in their decision to remain neutral, despite the historic ties with the British.

But you were probably born a jingo. Often jingoes are born and not made.[/QUOTE]And you were probably born a garfok that likes to suck snagglies LOL.

Argentina is poor as fuck bro. Pick a better example.

Switzerland controls the world's finances, that's their get out of jail free card. Don't expect other nations to get such treatment. Even Sweden, a historically neutral nation has just joined NATO and decided not to sit on the sidelines while true evil threatens innocent people. Sometimes a shepherd must fend off the wolves.

You seem like the type of guy to watch old ladies get mugged and look the other way. Not my type of guy.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2705940]I was reading the other day that it is even worse if you are boosted.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/why-are-boosted-americans-testing-positive-for-covid-19-more-often-than-those-without-extra-shot/ar-AAYcanV?li=BBnbfcL[/URL]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2706032]Argentina is poor as fuck bro. Pick a better example.[/QUOTE]Argentina was the 7th richest country in the world in the 1920's. 10th before WWI so they improved with neutrality. They're a great example because it was when they abandoned neutrality, their situation got demonstrably worse.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2706032]You seem like the type of guy to watch old ladies get mugged and look the other way. Not my type of guy.[/QUOTE]Appearances can be deceiving. I chased down a purse snatcher in Quito. In Buenos Aires a kid ripped a gold chain off a woman's neck and I chased him too but no one would help. Neither woman was old, sorry. I will admit I missed my chance with the old lady. Also Buenos Aires. Late at night, walking home drunk. Some guy comes flying around the corner with something in his arms and I was like what's wrong with THIS picture? But took too long to process that it was a purse and by then he was past me. He didn't hurt her, though. I got her calmed down and we called the cops, who were useless.

Not neutral when it comes to women getting robbed. No no. But you should read and study more before you pontificate because you don't know shit. Switzerland controls the world's finances. Oh uh huh. The Yew Ess is watching innocent people getting shot and looking the other way.

Oh and I body slammed a shoplifter running out of a liquor store in the US. Don't look the other way on that shit either.

You must be after some kind of record for contradicting yourself so many times. Americans should stay within their own borders. Still plenty of schools to shoot up. Anyway with all those missiles you are sending into Ukraine which are now for sale on the dark web, expect the Great Leap Forward to go ahead by leaps and bounds.

I'll be taking a shower soon. But unlike Pershing, I won't get fools to charge American machine gunners just before an Armistice for it. America: it has the dregs of the world, including its own dregs.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2706026]
Self contradictory shit
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2705973]Covid is not in the news every day, no one cares.
And there were billions in wasted vaccine to boot, but no one cares about that either.
Like the defense industries got their money, Pfizer and Moderna got theirs. I am not sure these vaccines will even be offered / available after the moratorium on lawsuits is lifted. They are worthless now and are dangerous to boot.[/QUOTE]Yes, CV has dropped out of the news almost entirely. How convenient! I only ever hear occasional news on The Hill and a couple of specialists channels. It's almost as if they don't want to talk about it anymore bcos it's kind of an embarrassment and the Ukraine war is a very convenient distraction. Vaxs funded and risks taken by the public, profits shared amongst the oligarchs / establishment. Get your fix of capitalism and democracy right here folks, step on up!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2706026]Yeah let's go through history and judge people by their worst moments and do our best to destroy the legacies of the people who made the most contributions. That will certainly work out well for society LOL.
[/QUOTE]You should see the list on Winston Churchill. You wouldn't believe it. Just as bad as Hitler.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2706208]You should see the list on Winston Churchill. You wouldn't believe it. Just as bad as Hitler.[/QUOTE]LOL, I think the vast majority of people would disagree with that statement. Haha, who is worse: Trump or Hitler? I would love to hear the answers to that one hahahaha.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2706204]You must be after some kind of record for contradicting yourself so many times. Americans should stay within their own borders. Still plenty of schools to shoot up. Anyway with all those missiles you are sending into Ukraine which are now for sale on the dark web, expect the Great Leap Forward to go ahead by leaps and bounds.

I'll be taking a shower soon. But unlike Pershing, I won't get fools to charge American machine gunners just before an Armistice for it. America: it has the dregs of the world, including its own dregs.[/QUOTE]Just point out one time I contradicted myself. That's all. Just once.

People should be allowed to immigrate. It should just be regulated effectively to benefit all parties involved. It should also be done legally and the citizens of the country should be allowed to limit the number of migrants as they see fit. Pretty simple. Oh yea, and don't allow fentanyl peddling drug dealers and human traffickers to freely cross your borders as well. That's probably not the best thing for most communities.

Dude, do you really want to knock on kids who have been murdered at gun point by mentally ill sociopaths? Is that really who you want to be? I am guessing you're an Alex Jones fan?

[QUOTE=Huacho;2706136]Argentina was the 7th richest country in the world in the 1920's. 10th before WWI so they improved with neutrality. They're a great example because it was when they abandoned neutrality, their situation got demonstrably worse.

Appearances can be deceiving. I chased down a purse snatcher in Quito. In Buenos Aires a kid ripped a gold chain off a woman's neck and I chased him too but no one would help. Neither woman was old, sorry. I will admit I missed my chance with the old lady. Also Buenos Aires. Late at night, walking home drunk. Some guy comes flying around the corner with something in his arms and I was like what's wrong with THIS picture? But took too long to process that it was a purse and by then he was past me. He didn't hurt her, though. I got her calmed down and we called the cops, who were useless.

Not neutral when it comes to women getting robbed. No no. But you should read and study more before you pontificate because you don't know shit. Switzerland controls the world's finances. Oh uh huh. The Yew Ess is watching innocent people getting shot and looking the other way.

Oh and I body slammed a shoplifter running out of a liquor store in the US. Don't look the other way on that shit either.[/QUOTE]I really don't feel like having these pointless arguments, but I will oblige you one more time sir. Argentina remained neutral for WW1 and WW2. They are now considered to be an economically poor nation today, much like the rest of most of Latin America who also remained Neutral for WW1 and WW2, both wars of which defined much of the world for the rest of the 20th century. The United States did however decide to commit to the war effort in both wars and it had numerous positive benefits for our society, especially in the fields of innovative technology, factory production, and trade relations with foreign nations which greatly strengthened America's economy. There were without a doubt intangible benefits to fighting a noble war and parlaying the spoils of war into a nation of global prestige and influence. These same benefits led to a country which other nations could reliably conduct business and trade with and be confident that their investments would produce positive returns. Of course not every aspect of a war like WW2 is positive, but I do believe the positive benefits outweigh the policy of Neutrality if your nation has the means to effectively participate. Latin America most likely did not have the means to effectively participate in a foreign war due to its own internal struggles and political instability. The world, for a time, used to appreciated the national sacrifice made by countries like the USA and the UK for fighting off truly evil regimes like Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. If Germany and Japan had been victorius, how long do you give them before they would come for the land, wealth, and man-power of Latin America? It's not implausible to speculate. History would tell us not long at all. So again I will state, In my most humble opinion, Neutrality is a Luxury the nations of the world cannot afford just yet, and that is quite unfortunate.

Here is some useful advice if you going to contribute an intellectual opinion publicly. You are clearly using vocabulary which is beyond your comprehension. You selection and placement of the term "pontificate" is utilized poorly. If you are going to choose an advanced term as such, do not start your sentence with the word "But". It displays poor writing skills and makes you seem uneducated. Readers will be likely to dismiss your posts. It remind me of when Mike Tyson would use big words he had heard to intimate his opponents, but he didn't really understand what the words mean't or when it was really appropriate to use them.

So you claim you are a heroic individual who stands up for those being attacked or robbed violently. Hmmm, after reading your post, it just seems like a load of bullshit to me. A real man from the street who has had to actually physically apprehend a criminal on numerous occasions probably has high enough self esteem to not describe in detail every altercation he has ever been in. He would probably just state the fact that he does not condone certain types of criminal behavior which hurts innocent people. You clearly took a hit to your ego when I stated you're the type of guy to let women get mugged and look the other way based off your opinion of Neutrality because you are going overboard defending yourself. You are even describing the moves you are using to take a shoplifter, "bodyslam" LOL. I call bullshit and you come off as a very fake and insecure individual based off your writing. But what do I know, I am just some asshole on a sex-mongering forum, so don't get too bent out of shape over this nonsense. I certainly won't.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2706425]Dude, do you really want to knock on kids who have been murdered at gun point by mentally ill sociopaths? Is that really who you want to be? I am guessing you're an Alex Jones fan?[/QUOTE]Pedro is across a number of the free for all threads, various countries, mainly trolling Americans and pitching Russian propaganda, or whatever he thinks will get a reaction. These threads solved a problem for the admins as they keep the review threads clear. Though at the same time they have made a home for basement weirdos that don't monger and will never seen Medellin.

Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2710593]Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?[/QUOTE]The election was close but yeah, Petro declared the winner. Antioquia, where we are in Medellin, the other guy won by a comfortable margin so maybe we will be a little bit more of a conservative political "enclave" here, I dunno. What I know about Colombian politics wouldn't fill a thimble. But this is historical for Petro being Colombia's first leftist president and a former urban guerrilla rebel. Of course, they used to say the guy who was the former president was just a mouth piece for the cartel, but who knows. I think there will be more than ripples from this all the way back to the US of A.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2710593]Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?[/QUOTE]
Actually he doesn't take office until August. For now Colombia still has Duque as its president. And no not like in Venezuela, the situation there is quite different. Petro is more like a Bernie Sanders than a Maduro. Hopefully the exchange rate will go to 4500 now. We will see what happens in the coming months.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2710593]Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?[/QUOTE]Seriously? You think a leftist like Petro who believes in alleviating poverty and corruption in Colombia is "like" a military propped up dictator who believes in lining his own pockets and the rest of the population of Venezuela be damned. I don't think they are even remotely similar.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2710593]Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?[/QUOTE]Viva Colombia! Am sure there will be some changes that will be significant to mongering in MDE and Colombia in general. Can't wait for the predictions to circulate. Hehe.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2710593]Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?[/QUOTE]Yes. As of tomorrow morning there will be 46,719 US sanctions against Colombia, the assets of every US citizen currently in Colombia will be seized and anyone refusing to join the socialists will be imprisoned. On the plus side, all prostitution will be government controlled with the price set at 9500 pesos for 30 minutes. China has already announced they are sending 250,000 troops to support the revolution.

They elected a new President. That's all. It's unlikely there will be any significant change.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2710593]Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?[/QUOTE]Bernie Sander is also Socialist. Socialist doesn't equal to anti-America. And after October Brazil election, almost entire Latin America will have lefty government in office. Is US going to sanction them all?

[QUOTE=NorthernLight;2710620]And after October Brazil election, almost entire Latin America will have lefty government in office. Is US going to sanction them all?[/QUOTE]The USA tries. It sanctioned Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia. All for electing presidents that the people wanted and the USA didn't. Much of Central America has also recently shifted left. And El Salvador didn't go left but also elected an anti-establishment people's president. There is a growing solidarity in the region, which can only benefit all. If enough of them can elect presidents with integrity, I think there will be major changes, not just in their relationships with the USA, but opportunites for the people. Also sounds like Colombia will normalise relations with Venezuela, wihch may make Venezuela a more attractive destination for single men, but reduce the nuimber of Venezuelanas on the streets of Colombia.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2710645]The USA tries. It sanctioned Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia. All for electing presidents that the people wanted and the USA didn't. Much of Central America has also recently shifted left. And El Salvador didn't go left but also elected an anti-establishment people's president. There is a growing solidarity in the region, which can only benefit all. If enough of them can elect presidents with integrity, I think there will be major changes, not just in their relationships with the USA, but opportunites for the people. Also sounds like Colombia will normalise relations with Venezuela, wihch may make Venezuela a more attractive destination for single men, but reduce the nuimber of Venezuelanas on the streets of Colombia.[/QUOTE]The US didn't sanction México after electing AMLO.

[QUOTE=NorthernLight;2710620]Bernie Sander is also Socialist. Socialist doesn't equal to anti-America. And after October Brazil election, almost entire Latin America will have lefty government in office. Is US going to sanction them all?[/QUOTE]NL, my gal sent me a text saying that she hopes this president respects private property, the free press, and entrepreneurship. The worst is that he is a climate change nut and wants to shut down oil drilling in Colombia. Why anybody would run on that now is beyond me.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2710657]The US didn't sanction Mxico after electing AMLO.[/QUOTE]Right. Like all bullies, it has to choose its victims well. Mexico is too close to home and part of NAFTA. And he is another left wing leader. Is pushing back against the USA and showing solidarity with Latinoland. I felwl we are really on the cusp of smthg.

"There can be no Americas Summit if all the countries of the American continent do not participate," Mr. López Obrador said. "Or there can be, but we believe that means continuing with the politics of old, of interventionism, of a lack of respect for the nations and their people. " (President López Obrador of Mexico said he made the decision because Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela were not invited.).

Push this on to Talking Shlt, but I think it is relevant to mongering in the medium term in Colombia and MDE.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2710666]
Push this on to Talking Shlt, but I think it is relevant to mongering in the medium term in Colombia and MDE.[/QUOTE]Relevent in a good way or a bad way? If the exchange rate goes to 4300 or 4500 that would affect us in a good way. What do you think is going to happen?

Do we really believe these leftists have integrity? I don't see leftists / socialists really doing anything for the people, while at the same time damaging any progress made on capitalism. I feel for the Colombian people, I really do. At lest with Obama, the poor bought into (and some received) free Obama cell phones! Jejejeje.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2710645]There is a growing solidarity in the region, which can only benefit all. If enough of them can elect presidents with integrity, I think there will be major changes, not just in their relationships with the USA, but opportunites for the people. .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2710670]Relevent in a good way or a bad way? If the exchange rate goes to 4300 or 4500 that would affect us in a good way. What do you think is going to happen?[/QUOTE]I don't claim to have any special insight in to exch rates. But I imagine there will be a short term negative reaction by the establishment markets to the first left wing president of Colombia, which will be good for the mongering economic forecast. But after the initial resentment passes. Depends how the new party performs. Market shocks tend to pass quite qucikly, I imagine all the new party hope for is stability and support from its major regional and economic allies.

How about you. What do you think?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2710679]I don't claim to have any special insight in to exch rates. But I imagine there will be a short term negative reaction by the establishment markets to the first left wing president of Colombia, which will be good for the mongering economic forecast. But after the initial resentment passes. Depends how the new party performs. Market shocks tend to pass quite qucikly, I imagine all the new party hope for is stability and support from its major regional and economic allies.

How about you. What do you think?[/QUOTE]Well I don't think Colombia will ever be like Venezuela. There's a big difference between a left leaning socialist and a criminal dictator. As far as exchange rates go I'm hoping if he raises taxes and scares away foreign investment it will put the exchange rate more favorable for us. I don't think things will change much on the ground tho. México hasn't changed much since AMLO was elected except for taking cartoon characters of of cereal boxes LOL.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2710607]Seriously? You think a leftist like Petro who believes in alleviating poverty and corruption in Colombia is "like" a military propped up dictator who believes in lining his own pockets and the rest of the population of Venezuela be damned. I don't think they are even remotely similar.[/QUOTE]You are correct. They aren't remotely similar. I think the people who cry the most about the word 'socialist' can't even actually define the term!

I live on a Caribbean Island owned by the Netherlands. We have socialist Helathcare! OMG! We also have more rights, and more freedom than the USA!

There are differences in socialism, democratic socialism and being a 'leftist'.

Nothing much will change in Colombia outside of more candidates running in the future. If anything major changes it won't be until the end of Petro's term when we have the next peaceful transition of power--something today's republicans and the people who cry 'socialist!' the most don't seem to understand since January 6th, 2021 when the 'conservatives' in America tried to stage a coup against the US govt!. That trumpist fascist energy is a far greater threat to freedom and democracy than Petro!

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2710682]Well I don't think Colombia will ever be like Venezuela. As far as exchange rates go I'm hoping if he raises taxes and scares away foreign investment it will put the exchange rate more favorable for us. I don't think things will change much on the ground tho. Mxico hasn't changed much since AMLO was elected.[/QUOTE]The vice president is a black woman too. Not some rich privileged bltch, but a representative of the people. She could also affect life on the streets a lot. Poverty, women's roles. Interesting times. I just hope it all works out well for the poor people here. They have needed this change for decades.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2710682]Well I don't think Colombia will ever be like Venezuela. There's a big difference between a left leaning socialist and a criminal dictator. As far as exchange rates go I'm hoping if he raises taxes and scares away foreign investment it will put the exchange rate more favorable for us. I don't think things will change much on the ground tho. Mxico hasn't changed much since AMLO was elected except for taking cartoon characters of of cereal boxes LOL.[/QUOTE]Colombia is the 2nd oldest democracy in the western hemisphere.

Colombia remains the longest-standing democracy in Latin America, and its constitution was inspired by the democratic principles of the US Constitution. There is no comparison with Venezuela. Petro isn't the last dictator's bus driver who claims the dead dictator can talk to him. He's just a left of center candidate--like, clearly, the majority in Colombia are.

Petro's campaign is rumored to have been heavily funded by narcos. That is not unusual for Colombian politicians at every level.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2710686]The vice president is a black woman too. Not some rich privileged bltch, but a representative of the people. She could also affect life on the streets a lot. Poverty, women's roles. Interesting times. I just hope it all works out well for the poor people here. They have needed this change for decades.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustTK;2710686]The vice president is a black woman too. Not some rich privileged bltch, but a representative of the people. She could also affect life on the streets a lot. Poverty, women's roles. Interesting times. I just hope it all works out well for the poor people here. They have needed this change for decades.[/QUOTE]The ruling class in Columbia is very corrupt and there is extreme wealth inequality. This likely will lead to increased stability over the long term, improve conditions for the poor and reduce crime. Columbia has a history of political violence and there have been large protests that got violent recently. The people are sick of it and that why the leftist won. The other candidate was part of the status quo. And the new guy was the mayor of Bogota and I believe there is still some mongering going on there. So hopefully this will prevent political violence like we have here in the US (Jan 6).

Petro won by a sliver. As I wrote earlier, he is said to have been funded heavily by narcos and right wing interests. During his victory speech tonight he swiftly moved to the center while pandering to the poor masses: "we support capitalism," "we will grow the economy to distribute it," "no more violence."

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2710698]The ruling class in Columbia is very corrupt and there is extreme wealth inequality. This likely will lead to increased stability over the long term, improve conditions for the poor and reduce crime. Columbia has a history of political violence and there have been large protests that got violent recently. The people are sick of it and that why the leftist won. The other candidate was part of the status quo. And the new guy was the mayor of Bogota and I believe there is still some mongering going on there. So hopefully this will prevent political violence like we have here in the US (Jan 6).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2710675]Do we really believe these leftists have integrity? I don't see leftists / socialists really doing anything for the people, while at the same time damaging any progress made on capitalism. I feel for the Colombian people, I really do. At lest with Obama, the poor bought into (and some received) free Obama cell phones! Jejejeje.[/QUOTE]Nice myth though it has gained a lot of mileage. Lifeline phone subsides started under the Reagan administration. Jejejeje Wink.

[URL]https://www.fcc.gov/general/lifeline-program-low-income-consumers[/URL]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2710675]Do we really believe these leftists have integrity?[/QUOTE]Do you really believe these "rightists" have integrity? Pick a side. Wink.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2710593]Colombia now has a socialist president like Venezuela. Is the US now going to sanction Colombia? What's going to happen to the economy of Colombia?[/QUOTE]How about visit Colombia sometime? There's next to know evidence that you've ever been.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxhZ2gJP4i8&list=PLRHSTehSy9NPdZ-rWiArWGLvr1WlsRzkC[/URL]

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2710698]The ruling class in Columbia is very corrupt and there is extreme wealth inequality. This likely will lead to increased stability over the long term, improve conditions for the poor and reduce crime. Columbia has a history of political violence and there have been large protests that got violent recently. The people are sick of it and that why the leftist won. The other candidate was part of the status quo. And the new guy was the mayor of Bogota and I believe there is still some mongering going on there. So hopefully this will prevent political violence like we have here in the US (Jan 6).[/QUOTE]Some serious lack of objectivity here. Jan 6th was a storm in a teacup. A magnifying glass bein put on it to meet political ends. So transparent to any neutral observer. Colombia has a history of guerilla warfare and drugs and criminal gangs. Leftists may want to share the pie, but the history of Latin America is that there isn't much of a pie to share once they get in. Capital flees, no one invests there, US aid $13 B since 2002 will dry up, and if he implements any of his loonie policies, the peso will plummet and inflation will soar. Not a good recipe to encourage tourism or any other industry. Over 1/2 of Colombian forex comes from Oil / gas, how exactly is that going to be replaced? China might be the big winner here, as this new leader may gravitate that way. Will be interesting. The one good thing is that they too have a congress branch of gov't and that will temper many of Petro excesses.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2710686]The vice president is a black woman too. Not some rich privileged bltch, but a representative of the people. She could also affect life on the streets a lot. Poverty, women's roles. Interesting times. I just hope it all works out well for the poor people here. They have needed this change for decades.[/QUOTE]This change has been coming along though and I think Colombia is on the right path towards prosperity as a country. A lot of it has been actually getting in leaders that realized that if they weren't corrupt, they could actually bring a lot of good to the people. From my very superficial view of their politics, I'm happy Petro won because of his choice in vice presidents. Both candidates chose Afro-Latina women, but Petro chose an activist, someone who has a history in politics. His opponent asked for resumes and picked a professor that has never been in politics, a very odd choice.

As for the metro conversation, I spent a good amount of time on it and didn't have too much of a problem with it. The residents of Medellin take a lot of pride in it and it shows. It's just too fucking crowded at times and that's from someone coming from NYC. Getting out of El Centro any time between 5 PM - 7 PM was a nightmare. After spending time in a hotel in LA 70 and one in Poblado, staying in the Nutti made more sense for me given how much I enjoyed El Centro. I'm leaning towards just staying there when I go back next month.

Anyone know if the construction is still going on in Parque Lleras? Or when it's expected to be completed?

And Osteo, my last comment about phones was that if you're using an eSIM, you can't move that eSIM between phones easily for most providers. A physical SIM can bounce around phones with ease. It's generally not a problem for travelling I expect to run into for travelling.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2710724]Some serious lack of objectivity here. Jan 6th was a storm in a teacup. A magnifying glass bein put on it to meet political ends. So transparent to any neutral observer. Colombia has a history of guerilla warfare and drugs and criminal gangs. Leftists may want to share the pie, but the history of Latin America is that there isn't much of a pie to share once they get in. Capital flees, no one invests there, US aid $13 B since 2002 will dry up, and if he implements any of his loonie policies, the peso will plummet and inflation will soar. Not a good recipe to encourage tourism or any other industry. Over 1/2 of Colombian forex comes from Oil / gas, how exactly is that going to be replaced? China might be the big winner here, as this new leader may gravitate that way. Will be interesting. The one good thing is that they too have a congress branch of gov't and that will temper many of Petro excesses.[/QUOTE]You are sooooo neutral, LOL.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2710682]Well I don't think Colombia will ever be like Venezuela.[/QUOTE]If Petro does to Colombia's oil industry what Hugo Chavez did to Venezuela, then it will be Venezuela 4. 0 All over again.

Enjoy it while you still can.

[QUOTE=NorthernLight;2710620]Bernie Sander is also Socialist. Socialist doesn't equal to anti-America. And after October Brazil election, almost entire Latin America will have lefty government in office. Is US going to sanction them all?[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure the US is going to take the same extreme action they took when Uruguay elected a former leftist rebel as President. And Colombia will probably experience the same total collapse as Uruguay under Mujica.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2710736]You are sooooo neutral, LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm old enough to have voted in 11 US Presidential elections. Before and after every election I've listened to people from both sides tell about the golden age coming if their candidate won and the total inevitable total collapse if the other guy won.

About the only noticeable change is the picture hanging in government offices. No golden age, no collapse, just minor changes that do almost nothing except get people to complain about how the nothing that happened under a previous President was much better or worse than the nothing happening under the current President.

The Colombian government, like most governments is a slow moving beast that doesn't like to change direction. It plods along no matter who holds the reins. Sometimes it shits on one side of the road, sometimes on the other, and occasionally right in the middle. The only guarantee is that everyone following the government is going to have to deal with some shit.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2710607]Seriously? You think a leftist like Petro who believes in alleviating poverty and corruption in Colombia is "like" a military propped up dictator who believes in lining his own pockets and the rest of the population of Venezuela be damned. I don't think they are even remotely similar.[/QUOTE]I didn't think it made a difference to the US. I thought that the US (CIA and FBI) hated all leftists. I am continually learning in politics.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2710756]I'm pretty sure the US is going to take the same extreme action they took when Uruguay elected a former leftist rebel as President. And Colombia will probably experience the same total collapse as Uruguay under Mujica.[/QUOTE]Will that affect our 'entertainment'?

I wonder how the election of the former guerilla Gustavo Petro will affect the mongering scene? Will prices increase? Will the scene decrease? Who knows with liberal policies it may expand exponentially. Your next p4p encounter may be performed by a former Abogada or Enfermera. It may become a Profesiand de estreno or worst case scenario time to find a new mongering scene.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2710741]If Petro does to Colombia's oil industry what Hugo Chavez did to Venezuela, then it will be Venezuela 4.0 All over again.

Enjoy it while you still can.[/QUOTE]Why would he? The situation in Venezuela is not comparable to the situation in Venezuela in 1999 and Petro isn't attempting to follow in Chavez's footsteps. Even if he looked at Venezuela, considered it's current state and decided "yep, that's exactly what I want for Colombia" he's dealing with a government which will happily restrict his power if they feel he's abusing or exceeding it.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2710859]Will that affect our 'entertainment'?[/QUOTE]Probably just as much as things were affected in Uruguay under Mujica. In other words, no.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2710869]I wonder how the election of the former guerilla Gustavo Petro will affect the mongering scene? Will prices increase? Will the scene decrease? Who knows with liberal policies it may expand exponentially. Your next p4p encounter may be performed by a former Abogada or Enfermera. It may become a Profesiand de estreno or worst case scenario time to find a new mongering scene.[/QUOTE]1. Nothing at all will change until his inauguration.

2. After his inauguration nothing will continue to change for several months.

3. After several months there might be some tiny changes, but it will likely take years before they have a significant impact on the mongering scene.

4. There's a microscopic possibility he will attempt to make some drastic changes. If so, the Colombian Supreme Court will almost certainly whack his peepee and nothing will change.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2710717]Petro won by a sliver. As I wrote earlier, he is said to have been funded heavily by narcos and right wing interests. During his victory speech tonight he swiftly moved to the center while pandering to the poor masses: "we support capitalism," "we will grow the economy to distribute it," "no more violence."[/QUOTE]Who is saying that? People say a lot of things.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2710880]Probably just as much as things were affected in <fill in almost any country in the world> under <fill in almost any elected leader>. In other words, no.[/QUOTE]An almost-developed country, Colombia, gets a new president and people use it as an excuse to espouse their own political predilections, glory and doom, while ignoring reality?

This discussion, as do most political discussions, rises almost to the same level for me as one of my favorite (original) allegories, "a pack of rabid pitbulls in a pool of piranha" that I used here to describe the vaccine debates, all points there now moot, as I predicted.

JuJuBee comes across as an appropriately sardonic voice of reason on this topic. Where do people get the idea that change occurs so easily?? Modern politics move in sludge. No one asked me, and I am not going to give another opinion on this thread.

My guy lost. I doubt I will notice any direct impact on my-way-of-being. Actually, I loved Catgirl's response when I asked her if she cared to share who she was going to vote for, she told me, "I have a blank. " Jajajajjaajajajaaaaaa. She probably voted based on the sound of the candidates names, like many people do.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2710869]I wonder how the election of the former guerilla Gustavo Petro will affect the mongering scene? Will prices increase? Will the scene decrease? Who knows with liberal policies it may expand exponentially. Your next p4p encounter may be performed by a former Abogada or Enfermera. It may become a Profesiand de estreno or worst case scenario time to find a new mongering scene.[/QUOTE]In the near term, the Peso is probably going to go down because a lot of companies particularly the oil companies will move out or lower investment. This guy was against further oil drilling and probably used the climate change agenda to do so. What happened in Venezuela was the oil production went way down while drug trafficking went through the roof. The same happened in Bolivia though it was natural gas not oil. There they actually brag about the cocoa crop numbers exploding (for legitimate purposes of course). I am not sure why this happens. Does drug trafficking offer greater freedom than energy production? Or is Colombia like the USA where oil and gas production money is used by conservatives against the socialists / Democrats in the financial world? I would imagine it cannot be traced as easily by organizations like the IMF.

Oil is Colombia's #1 cash export so if they quit drilling, a falling peso is sure to result. The question then is if the narco operations are going to make up for the fall. They did in Bolivia but not in Venezuela. That would actually be good for mongers as the dollar would rise further still. The problem is you have promised the poor all this money and if you no longer have as much oil money, there likely will be relaxation on rules with regards to theft. In Brazil, Venezuela, Bolivia, Mexico, and even now in many of the Democratic states in the USA, theft went through the roof when the socialists moved in.

Duque was looking at tourism as Colombia's next great money maker, a good move, but he botched it IMO with his horrible Covid response. If he kept Colombia open like Mexico did, tourists would have flooded the country. If this guy wants to go ahead with the plan, he better keep Colombia safe or at least not worse with regards to safety.

The narcos like their women so the chance of the hobby going way down is unlikely. OTOH, in a few years, I suspect mongers will be looking over their shoulders a lot more than ever before.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2710756]I'm pretty sure the US is going to take the same extreme action they took when Uruguay elected a former leftist rebel as President. And Colombia will probably experience the same total collapse as Uruguay under Mujica.[/QUOTE]I love it. Excellent answer! People without background knowledge don't understand your humor. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2710857]I thought that the US (CIA and FBI) hated all leftists.[/QUOTE]They do. But the ones that allow the USA a free pass to exploit its resources, are tolerated. Only the ones that refuse to be subservient are targetted for coups and embargoes and wars.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2710927]They do. But the ones that allow the USA a free pass to exploit its resources, are tolerated. Only the ones that refuse to be subservient are targetted for coups and embargoes and wars.[/QUOTE]Maybe that is how things were, but Venezuela constantly went back on its word. The Europeans and Chinese got screwed just as badly as the Americans in Venezuela. Exxon sued Venezuela in world court and won. Chavez was convinced the Western world needed his oil but companies invested in USA shale and the Vaca Muerta field in Argentina.

[URL]https://www.bbva.com/en/vaca-muerta-worlds-second-largest-shale-gas-deposit/[/URL]

The USA Department of Energy calculated that combined, USA And Argentina's shale gas and shale oil resources account for 32% of the world's crude and 10% of its natural gas.

The villains in Bolivia were not American energy companies but Brazilian. Morales sent out the national guard to seize the natural gas wells and Lula wisely backed off a military action. Afterwards, Morales reneged on the original deal, raised gas prices, and had a short lived economic miracle. Of course, any action like this, stealing what is not yours, works in the short run but fails in the long run because no one wants to invest in a country where you build up a business and once it is profitable, the government steals it or buys it on the cheap.

Venezuelan law was that any country in Venezuela had to pay out 50% of its profits to shareholders in the form of dividends. The goal was to make sure shareholders do not get ripped off by companies and to me, that was an interesting take but when I went to Venezuela after having invested in said phone company, the Venezuelans were hostile to any Americans getting one penny of dividends. And that is when I knew the company and country were doomed. Why would anyone invest in a country like that when you have ones like Chile who welcome you with open arms and are hostile towards the notion that stealing is okay?

For all the socialistic talk of helping the poor, demonizing the rich, and denouncing the USA, Hugo Chavez snuck out $8 billion and put it in his daughter's name and she currently lives in Miami. The issue with me is which kind of socialism / leftist policies is Colombia going to adopt: those of Venezuela and Bolivia or those of Chile.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2710907]An almost-developed country, Colombia, gets a new president and people use it as an excuse to espouse their own political predilections, glory and doom, while ignoring reality?

This discussion, as do most political discussions, rises almost to the same level for me as one of my favorite (original) allegories, "a pack of rabid pitbulls in a pool of piranha" that I used here to describe the vaccine debates, all points there now moot, as I predicted.

JuJuBee comes across as an appropriately sardonic voice of reason on this topic. Where do people get the idea that change occurs so easily?? Modern politics move in sludge. No one asked me, and I am not going to give another opinion on this thread.

My guy lost. I doubt I will notice any direct impact on my-way-of-being. Actually, I loved Catgirl's response when I asked her if she cared to share who she was going to vote for, she told me, "I have a blank. " Jajajajjaajajajaaaaaa. She probably voted based on the sound of the candidates names, like many people do.[/QUOTE]Before the first round of the Presidential election I asked my girlfriend* if she had properly prepared for the election. She wanted to know how to prepare. I told her the most important preparation was to buy a bottle of tequila before the dry law went into effect. Worrying about the outcome of the election, once voting begins is completely useless. Might as well drink.

Catgirl was probably saying "Voto en Blanco."

[URL]https://thebogotapost.com/what-is-voto-en-blanco/29983/[/URL]

Whether you're happy with the Colombian election results or not, look at the bright side. Quite a few Colombian women vowed to post a picture in a thong if Petro won. Twitter and Facebook are entertaining today.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2710736]You are sooooo neutral, LOL.[/QUOTE]Well I don't see any counter-argument from you.

[QUOTE=L00PY;2710729]This change has been coming along though and I think Colombia is on the right path towards prosperity as a country. A lot of it has been actually getting in leaders that realized that if they weren't corrupt, they could actually bring a lot of good to the people. From my very superficial view of their politics, I'm happy Petro won because of his choice in vice presidents. Both candidates chose Afro-Latina women, but Petro chose an activist, someone who has a history in politics. His opponent asked for resumes and picked a professor that has never been in politics, a very odd choice.

As for the metro conversation, I spent a good amount of time on it and didn't have too much of a problem with it. The residents of Medellin take a lot of pride in it and it shows. It's just too fucking crowded at times and that's from someone coming from NYC. Getting out of El Centro any time between 5 PM - 7 PM was a nightmare. After spending time in a hotel in LA 70 and one in Poblado, staying in the Nutti made more sense for me given how much I enjoyed El Centro. I'm leaning towards just staying there when I go back next month.

Anyone know if the construction is still going on in Parque Lleras? Or when it's expected to be completed?

And Osteo, my last comment about phones was that if you're using an eSIM, you can't move that eSIM between phones easily for most providers. A physical SIM can bounce around phones with ease. It's generally not a problem for travelling I expect to run into for travelling.[/QUOTE]Lmfao, you're happy to see a left-wing extremist without any experience of the real world as vice president. Lmfao, because Kamala Harris is doing such a great job! Lmfao. Some people never learn.

I can't believe anyone would have more confidence in a good-for-nothing loudmouth than a professor. The contempt for knowledge and experience is real.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2710645]The USA tries. It sanctioned Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia. All for electing presidents that the people wanted and the USA didn't. Much of Central America has also recently shifted left. And El Salvador didn't go left but also elected an anti-establishment people's president. There is a growing solidarity in the region, which can only benefit all. If enough of them can elect presidents with integrity, I think there will be major changes, not just in their relationships with the USA, but opportunites for the people. Also sounds like Colombia will normalise relations with Venezuela, wihch may make Venezuela a more attractive destination for single men, but reduce the nuimber of Venezuelanas on the streets of Colombia.[/QUOTE]Lmfao, soon they might even have more solidarity than Venezuela! Lmfao!

[QUOTE=NorthernLight;2710620]Bernie Sander is also Socialist. Socialist doesn't equal to anti-America. And after October Brazil election, almost entire Latin America will have lefty government in office. Is US going to sanction them all?[/QUOTE]All socialists are against the West.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2710607]Seriously? You think a leftist like Petro who believes in alleviating poverty and corruption in Colombia is "like" a military propped up dictator who believes in lining his own pockets and the rest of the population of Venezuela be damned. I don't think they are even remotely similar.[/QUOTE]The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Lets see what happens, Venezuela didn't see it coming.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2710972]Catgirl was probably saying "Voto en Blanco."

[URL]https://thebogotapost.com/what-is-voto-en-blanco/29983/[/URL][/QUOTE]Isn't it a wonderful sign that I might not communicate effectively with my novia of going on three-years? Jajajajaja. My fall back will be, "Ignorance is Bliss".

I had 2 sessions today in El Centro that I dare not write about because few would believe me. The lull that I have been expecting ever since annexing Scarlet from my sex life finally occurred and no one was lining themselves up to be my personal playground today. Crickets. That is one of the beauties of staying at The Nutti. I took the five-minute stroll, and Ground Zero did not disappoint.

Round One I found Mini-Vennie's or Sugar Baby's sister. I doubt she will ever become a kept woman like her sister, but they share the same mother and there is enough DNA there to make her worthwhile. I booked an hour, it was slow because of the Corpus Christi Day holiday and the staff didn't come knocking on our door until 90 minutes later (I usually tip the check-in girl, and the maids, two mil COP each or fifty cents USA and they never rush me). We almost fell asleep in each other's arms, she on top me, we hadn't moved in twenty minutes. That's right, Romance at Ground Zero and we did everything except anal, but we used a condom for fucking. I gave her a huge tip because the session was phenomenal and I have met her infant kid and been to her place over at Hotel Puta, before. Not to mention she exists in the shadow of her much more attractive Sugar Baby sister.

I came down 15 minutes after she left and dayum if she didn't fix me up right outside the hotel with one of her friends. We made a You-turn (fucking auto-editor) back into the hotel and had a crazy session where both parties did waaaay to much tussi but ended up happy. I straggled behind and tried to make a play from my bed for a girl standing in the hall at the window because she was so cute, I was too high, and it felt like fantasy fulfilment. Turned out she was the younger sister of the check-in girl who worked behind the glass, and definitely not P4P.

One of the maids came over and explained the situation to me. Then three more maids, and then the sister from behind the glass came out to join us. By the time we were done we were all practically rolling on the floor laughing. I tipped everyone with a two mil COP note until I ran out of twos then I gave the older sister a fin. They said the front room on that floor, considered desirable real estate, was now "my" room, jajajaja.

I was too high to be walking around El Centro but was able to make a controlled bee-line back to my room and pass out in bed until now. I am going back over because on my way out I spotted one of my "dream" chicas from a previous trip to Ground Zero months ago and who I only ever sessioned once and then lost track of her. She agreed then to come to my hotel in the future and if I am lucky enough to snag her, she allows fotos and you will see why I say "lucky. " Ostee Out and I will Keep On Keepin' On.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2710889]1. Nothing at all will change until his inauguration.

2. After his inauguration nothing will continue to change for several months.

3. After several months there might be some tiny changes, but it will likely take years before they have a significant impact on the mongering scene.

4. There's a microscopic possibility he will attempt to make some drastic changes. If so, the Colombian Supreme Court will almost certainly whack his peepee and nothing will change.[/QUOTE]These are facts. So much for the Chicken Littles. Yawns.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2710987]Lmfao, you're happy to see a left-wing extremist without any experience of the real world as vice president. Lmfao, because Kamala Harris is doing such a great job! Lmfao. Some people never learn.

I can't believe anyone would have more confidence in a good-for-nothing loudmouth than a professor. The contempt for knowledge and experience is real.[/QUOTE]On one hand we have a professor who's been in academia for her entire life.

On the other we have an activist who in the 90's stopped a gold mining company from polluting her local river; in the 00's and 10's led protests against illegal mining, receiving international recognition for her work; also in the 10's participated in the peace negotiations with the FARC, eventually being elected to the council that monitored compliance with the peace agreement. She also became a lawyer during that time.

Regardless of politics, one of the two has more leadership and more real world experience. We're talking pure experience in politics and which candidate would be a better choice for a running mate.

I still maintain that if Colombia is able to continue to reduce corruption and redirect money towards bettering its people, their country is headed in the right direction. The investment I've seen and heard of in their schools and children further reinforces this opinion of mine.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2710994]The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Lets see what happens, Venezuela didn't see it coming.[/QUOTE]Colombia is a long standing US ally, have had leftist presidents before and little will change, irrespective of any Chicken Littles in Sweden who frequents the free for all threads but has never been to the country.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2710987]Lmfao, you're happy to see a left-wing extremist without any experience of the real world as vice president. Lmfao, because Kamala Harris is doing such a great job! Lmfao. Some people never learn.

I can't believe anyone would have more confidence in a good-for-nothing loudmouth than a professor. The contempt for knowledge and experience is real.[/QUOTE]As they say, elections have consequences, but from the perspective of a Swedish basement eating pickled herring and dreaming of buying pussy it doesn't make a lot of difference. LMAO.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2710994]The road to hell is paved with good intentions.[/QUOTE]Colombia is Colombia is Colombia. Nordic Chicken Littles and worn out clichés from afar are of no consequence.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2711022]
Round One I found Mini-Vennie's or Sugar Baby's sister. I doubt she will ever become a kept woman like her sister, but they share the same mother and there is enough DNA there to make her worthwhile. I booked an hour, it was slow because of the Corpus Christi Day holiday and the staff didn't come knocking on our door until 90 minutes later (I usually tip the check-in girl, and the maids, two mil COP each or fifty cents USA and they never rush me). We almost fell asleep in each other's arms, she on top me, we hadn't moved in twenty minutes. That's right, Romance at Ground Zero and we did everything except anal, but we used a condom for fucking. I gave her a huge tip because the session was phenomenal and I have met her infant kid and been to her place over at Hotel Puta, before. Not to mention she exists in the shadow of her much more attractive Sugar Baby sister.[/QUOTE]Romance? With your Just for Men mustache? I mean seriously, right underneath your sickenly chemically induced nose? And we are expected to take this seriousy? ***** please! LOL.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2711266]Colombia is Colombia is Colombia. Nordic Chicken Littles and worn out clichs from afar are of no consequence.[/QUOTE]You're a mentally deranged weirdo. You need some serious psychical help and medication.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2710987]Lmfao, you're happy to see a left-wing extremist without any experience of the real world as vice president. Lmfao, because Kamala Harris is doing such a great job! Lmfao. Some people never learn.

I can't believe anyone would have more confidence in a good-for-nothing loudmouth than a professor. The contempt for knowledge and experience is real.[/QUOTE]Kinda reminds me of when Sara was on the Republican ticket right from the trailer park. Both sides are stupid especially when it's an old guy running as president. No fool like an old fool. By the way, Medellin is full of old fools and young girls who take advantage. Keep laughing it's good for you. Also, remember this, America is full of fools and most have roots in Europe.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2712325]You're a mentally deranged weirdo. You need some serious psychical help and medication.[/QUOTE]He also hasn't a clue about politics. He wrote "Colombia. Had leftist presidents before" Love him to name even one.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2712398]Kinda reminds me of when Sara was on the Republican ticket right from the trailer park. [/QUOTE]First, her name is Sarah, not Sara. She was the governor of Alaska when she was selected to run as vice-president. Governors don't live in trailer parks, not even governors of Arkansas.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2712692]First, her name is Sarah, not Sara. She was the governor of Alaska when she was selected to run as vice-president. Governors don't live in trailer parks, not even governors of Arkansas.[/QUOTE]How long was she the governor? Still talked and acted like a trailer park person or did you really think that I meant she lived in one? Be real.

She was and is as dump as the current VP. My point was that both Old Joe and Old John both picked young dumb women as running mates. Just from different parties. Doesn't matter if you are a the or are, an old fool is an old fool and a young dumb running mate is a young dumb running mate.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2712692]First, her name is Sarah, not Sara. She was the governor of Alaska when she was selected to run as vice-president. Governors don't live in trailer parks, not even governors of Arkansas.[/QUOTE]Ahh yes Sarah Palin, the stupid country hick b¡tch from Alaska that ran with McCain and lost to Obama / Biden. She was quite an annoying b¡tch and she would never shut the fuck up. "I'm from Wasilla, my state borders Russia, I know foreign policy, blah, blah" she needed McCain's limp buscuit stuffed in her mouth in order to shut her the fuck up LOL.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2712825]What are the key talking points besides virgin?[/QUOTE]The claim that he "is learning" despite paying over an already inflated and inaccurate taxi fare.
Claim that he has never seen street girls before.
Virgin yet on ISG.
Claim that he doesn't feel anything from naked girls.
Claim that women are soft.
Claim that he didn't even come.
Claim that he didn't know poverty was bad salchipapas.

I strikes me as a load of trolling, sry to say. I wonder if others think the same?

Now - "I bought some lubricant to see if that will help if I put it in the condom. "

Ok, agreed. These are not key talking points (apart from paying too much). Just playing dumb for the attention. Like the other attention seekers here do it other ways.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2712837]The claim that he "is learning" despite paying over an already inflated and inaccurate taxi fare.

Claim that he has never seen street girls before.
Virgin yet on ISG.
Claim that he doesn't feel anything from naked girls.
Claim that women are soft.
Claim that he didn't even come.
Claim that he didn't know poverty was bad salchipapas.

I strikes me as a load of trolling, sry to say. I wonder if others think the same?

Now - "I bought some lubricant to see if that will help if I put it in the condom. "

Just playing dumb for the attention. Like the other attention seekers here do it other ways.[/QUOTE]I find this so funny lmao because I'm not trolling. Everything I am writing here is 100% truth. I have no reason to lie. Now let me address some points individually.

OK so the pay an insane amount for the taxi was newbie mistake. Honestly. It was 12 or 1 am and I just didn't care. Literally first time in Colombia.

I've been stalking this forum for a little bit so I know about street walkers and I see all those YouTube videos with the Centro girls and Lleras girls. I've seen so many that I YouTube can't recommend me new videos I haven't seen. What I meant is that I've never seen a street walkers irl. I'm from New York city for crying out loud LOL.

I said I don't feel anything from doing it with a condom with girls. It actually kinda hurts. Lube is working. Maybe I need more.

Yes women are soft as I've come to realize. Like if your butt is not fake (I haven't touched a fake butt yet) and you don't work out it is soft LOL and tits are soft LOL they might be heavy tho.

The first time in la Isla I didn't come and the first time in loutron I didn't come either. It was a little awkward. I was just like let's talk forget this sex stuff it's not going to work. I did come with an escort like an hour ago. Getting better so I'm happy.

Ok yes the poverty thing. I've seen the homeless people sleeping in random places but it didn't really hit me until that guy wanted what I considered trash. He was so happy when he got it too. There. Have been so many people begging for money. I thought I was poor. Seeing this smacked me in the face now I understand. Some these people have literally nothing. Sadness.

And yes those salchipapas were not that great. Tasted like potato chips and it had cheese which I told them not to put cheese. I don't like cheese. My friend from Cali told me that not all places are good. So I still have hope.

I hope this clears things up. I'm really not trolling. I'm just documenting my experiences, trying to get better at this, and trying to provide useful information.

Peace.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2712837]The claim that he "is learning" despite paying over an already inflated and inaccurate taxi fare.
Claim that he has never seen street girls before.
Virgin yet on ISG.
Claim that he doesn't feel anything from naked girls.
Claim that women are soft.
Claim that he didn't even come.
Claim that he didn't know poverty was bad salchipapas.

I strikes me as a load of trolling, sry to say. I wonder if others think the same?

Now - "I bought some lubricant to see if that will help if I put it in the condom. "

Ok, agreed. These are not key talking points (apart from paying too much). Just playing dumb for the attention. Like the other attention seekers here do it other ways.[/QUOTE]I agree and it seems kind of odd that he would pop up on ISG of all places saying he's a virgin and mongering in medellin. Alot of what he is stating in his posts just doesn't make sense imo.

I'm wondering if he's not even really in medellin at all and just RTFF and is recycling information he found and adding in his stupid questions like about adding lube inside the condoms, etc.

Thanks for the reply.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2712837]The claim that he "is learning" despite paying over an already inflated and inaccurate taxi fare...[/QUOTE]He knows what the taxi fair is, maybe not the exact amount but close enough, and who knows what taxi he was taking from the airport. He overpaid but that does not have effect on me as long as it's not me who is paying. Just like the member who picked the girl based on youtube video. It has no effect on me who he picked.

I rarely ask question but I read the forum. From reading his post, I know I should be prepared to have changes for taxi. I can get changes from La Isla to pay for taxi. Those would be two of the several things I could have learned from his post if I were new,.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2712856]
He knows what the taxi fair is, maybe not the exact amount but close enough, and who knows what taxi he was taking from the airport.
I rarely ask question but I read the forum..[/QUOTE]Taxi fare from arpt is 90, he paid nearly double that, plus tip. Anyway, I am not saying he is necessarily a newbier that is trolling. He could be a current or ex member with a second account, or just an experienced non-member monger that is having a joke by seeing how ISG reacts to his story of a virgin's first tri pin MDE.

Anhyway, likesays, its just my suspicion. It changes nothing. I enjoy a good fiction book as much as the next person.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2712992]Taxi fare from arpt is 90, he paid nearly double that, plus tip. Anyway, I am not saying he is necessarily a newbier that is trolling. He could be a current or ex member with a second account, or just an experienced non-member monger that is having a joke by seeing how ISG reacts to his story of a virgin's first tri pin MDE.

Anhyway, likesays, its just my suspicion. It changes nothing. I enjoy a good fiction book as much as the next person.[/QUOTE]I am not rebuking your view based on your explanation and I thank you for your reply. I agree with your view if I have the same consideration as you. I am also explaining why I see it differently because I ignore the things that I can't prove or verify, like him being a virgin, or overpaid taxi fair from airport. Those things simply don't affect me and I can't prove him wrong. For me, there is no value so I don't react to it. After all, you wondered why I think it is a good report, right? That makes me want to explain my view.

That being said, he knows the taxi fair is 100 mil (I know it is off a little) but more or less close enough for a newbie. If he had said the taxi driver offered him 20 mil and he bargained it down to 10 mil, then my reaction would be different.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2712793]Ahh yes Sarah Palin, the stupid country hick btch from Alaska that ran with McCain and lost [/QUOTE]You know, your name is a spanish soup, according to marjorie taylor green?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2713128]You know, your name is a spanish soup, according to marjorie taylor green?[/QUOTE]My name is a synonym for gringo. Not sure what soup Marjorie Taylor Green was referring to but she is another one of those stupid b*tches like Sarah and Kamala so I wouldn't be surprised.

I looked it up, apparently she must have meant "gazpacho"

I looked it up further, it had nothing to do with my name, she mixed up the words "gestapo" and "gazpacho" saying that Nancy Polosi has a gazpacho police. Apparently these are an elite police force that show up in your kitchen and confiscate your chilled tomato soup.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2712642]He also hasn't a clue about politics. He wrote "Colombia. Had leftist presidents before" Love him to name even one.[/QUOTE]And what exactly do you think a [B] leftist [/B] is?

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics[/URL]

If you reasonable count [B] liberals [/B] as leftist.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_Colombia[/URL]

Then it would be fair to say there have been a lot of Colombian presidents who were "leftist".

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2713153]My name is a synonym for gringo. Not sure what soup Marjorie Taylor Green was referring to but she is another one of those stupid b*tches like Sarah and Kamala so I wouldn't be surprised.

I looked it up, apparently she must have meant "gazpacho"

I looked it up further, it had nothing to do with my name, she mixed up the words "gestapo" and "gazpacho" saying that Nancy Polosi has a gazpacho police. Apparently these are an elite police force that show up in your kitchen and confiscate your chilled tomato soup.[/QUOTE]And what makes you think Kamala Harris [B]is a stupid b*tch?[/B] Is it that she graduated from a very good competitive university? Or was it that she completed her professional education at a very good (but not great) law school? Or perhaps because she became the District Attorney for San Francisco, a position she held for 7 years? It couldn't be because she was the Attorney General for the State of California for 6 years? Oh I know. It was because she was elected to the Senate from California?

I would love to hear what your qualifications are that would give you the "authority" to classify Kamala as a [B] stupid b*itch[/B].

As to Sarah Palin and Marjorie Taylor Greene. OK, I buy it, no explanation required.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2713153]My name is a synonym for gringo. [/QUOTE]Güero, ¿no?

I use güero. I think only Americans use gringo (cowboy movies) . Though there are many home grown Blondies in Latin American (19th century immigration).

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2713153]My name is a synonym for gringo. Not sure what soup Marjorie Taylor Green was referring to but she is another one of those stupid b*tches like Sarah and Kamala so I wouldn't be surprised.

I looked it up, apparently she must have meant "gazpacho"

I looked it up further, it had nothing to do with my name, she mixed up the words "gestapo" and "gazpacho" saying that Nancy Polosi has a gazpacho police. Apparently these are an elite police force that show up in your kitchen and confiscate your chilled tomato soup.[/QUOTE]It was a little joke, don't worry about it, Gestapo, I mean Gazpacho, I mean Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2713094]I am not rebuking your view based on your explanation and I thank you for your reply. I agree with your view if I have the same consideration as you. I am also explaining why I see it differently because I ignore the things that I can't prove or verify, like him being a virgin, or overpaid taxi fair from airport. Those things simply don't affect me and I can't prove him wrong. For me, there is no value so I don't react to it. After all, you wondered why I think it is a good report, right? That makes me want to explain my view.

That being said, he knows the taxi fair is 100 mil (I know it is off a little) but more or less close enough for a newbie. If he had said the taxi driver offered him 20 mil and he bargained it down to 10 mil, then my reaction would be different.[/QUOTE]Add me to the list of skeptics.

Others have mentioned several suspicious things. Here are a few more. I don't believe there is a bench in La Isla outside of the girl's dressing room. Standing at the point farthest from the bar at La Isla would be on the left side, not the right, where the picture was taken from. Also, from either spot the entrance to La Isla is right of the bar. The exit is to the left, at the other end of the club.

Another problem is that the pictures he has posted quite obviously came from 3 different cameras, possibly 4.

The biggest problem for me is that his language usage is not consistent. Everyone has a certain rhythm to their writing. It's the same with behavior. Trying to write or act like someone else is difficult. Actors often spend months becoming the role they will play so they can portray the behavior naturally. Writers spend a long time developing characters. Otherwise the story isn't believable. His writing style isn't consistent and it doesn't flow correctly for a 23 year old from NYC.

Perhaps I'm wrong.

One last thing. Was there a downpour last night? I'm asking because 2 of my girls mentioned the heat yesterday and on hot sunny days, heavy rain usually comes late afternoon. Also, the idea that street girls in Lleras, or Provenza are either carrying or buying umbrellas is not something I can wrap my head around.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2713176]And what makes you think Kamala Harris [B]is a stupid b*tch?[/B] Is it that she graduated from a very good competitive university? Or was it that she completed her professional education at a very good (but not great) law school? Or perhaps because she became the District Attorney for San Francisco, a position she held for 7 years? It couldn't be because she was the Attorney General for the State of California for 6 years? Oh I know. It was because she was elected to the Senate from California?

I would love to hear what your qualifications are that would give you the "authority" to classify Kamala as a [B] stupid b*itch[/B].

As to Sarah Palin and Marjorie Taylor Greene. OK, I buy it, no explanation required.[/QUOTE]Are you having your fucking period bro? Sorry if I pushed your buttons LOL. Just listen to her talk and you will understand why Kamala Haris is a stupid b*tch in the same category as Marjorie Taylor Green and Sarah Palin. Only difference is she is a liberal and the other two are conservatives but yes all 3 are stupid b*tches.
PS: you can add Nancy Pelosi to the same category too for that matter.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2713190]Gero, no?

I use gero. I think only Americans use gringo (cowboy movies) . Though there are many home grown Blondies in Latin American (19th century immigration).[/QUOTE]Guero is another often synonymous word with gringo but in Mexico, I've never heard it used in Colombia. But I think guero just means a fair-skinned person as opposed to gringo because you often hear Mexicans refer to fair-skinned Mexicans as guero.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2713230]Add me to the list of skeptics.

Others have mentioned several suspicious things. Here are a few more. I don't believe there is a bench in La Isla outside of the girl's dressing room. Standing at the point farthest from the bar at La Isla would be on the left side, not the right, where the picture was taken from. Also, from either spot the entrance to La Isla is right of the bar. The exit is to the left, at the other end of the club.

Another problem is that the pictures he has posted quite obviously came from 3 different cameras, possibly 4.

The biggest problem for me is that his language usage is not consistent. Everyone has a certain rhythm to their writing. It's the same with behavior. Trying to write or act like someone else is difficult. Actors often spend months becoming the role they will play so they can portray the behavior naturally. Writers spend a long time developing characters. Otherwise the story isn't believable. His writing style isn't consistent and it doesn't flow correctly for a 23 year old from NYC.

Perhaps I'm wrong.

One last thing. Was there a downpour last night? I'm asking because 2 of my girls mentioned the heat yesterday and on hot sunny days, heavy rain usually comes late afternoon. Also, the idea that street girls in Lleras, or Provenza are either carrying or buying umbrellas is not something I can wrap my head around.[/QUOTE]So I was right he is in fact in his parents basement eating doritos and RTFF and making up these wild stories from info he has read here and adding in pictures he found on the web. I think its obvious. And in his most recent post he says he had a Webcam girl come over but no sex? 🤣.

You would have to be naive to believe this shit.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2713230]One last thing. Was there a downpour last night? I'm asking because 2 of my girls mentioned the heat yesterday and on hot sunny days, heavy rain usually comes late afternoon. Also, the idea that street girls in Lleras, or Provenza are either carrying or buying umbrellas is not something I can wrap my head around.[/QUOTE]There was definitely a downpour last night. It was hot yesterday, but the rain didn't start until after 8 pm. I went to bed sometime around midnight and it was raining hard then. I am in Laureles; so can't speak for Poblado, but usually the weather patterns are similar.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2713280]So I was right he is in fact in his parents basement eating doritos and RTFF and making up these wild stories from info he has read here and adding in pictures he found on the web. I think its obvious. And in his most recent post he says he had a Webcam girl come over but no sex?

You would have to be naive to believe this shit.[/QUOTE]I don't know if you were right, but I do believe there are good reasons to doubt the accuracy of his reports.

I'm not certain the webcam story is a clincher. I've been over the subject too many times already. I'll just say that I've almost certainly spent more time with webcam models, in person, than anyone else on ISG. Sharing an apartment with one for 10 months and meeting up with 5-10 every week gave me quite a bit of experience.

It's certainly possible to meet with a webcam model and many are willing to meet and fuck for a price. However, it's most likely to be either completely platonic, or show me the money and let's do this. Groping and DFK seems unlikely, especially with a guy who was a virgin 2 days ago. If he can make that much progress with someone he just met, from another country, he should have been able to get laid long before this.

I see 4 possibilities. The most unlikely is that his stories are true as told. Next up, some things are true, but details have been altered for entertainment purposes. Number 3 is the Dorito eating, basement dweller scenario. The last is a member who created a new account in order to write fiction.

Because the pictures are highly suspect, my money is on the Doritos.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2713230]Add me to the list of skeptics.

Others have mentioned several suspicious things. Here are a few more. I don't believe there is a bench in La Isla outside of the girl's dressing room. Standing at the point farthest from the bar at La Isla would be on the left side, not the right, where the picture was taken from. Also, from either spot the entrance to La Isla is right of the bar. The exit is to the left, at the other end of the club.

Another problem is that the pictures he has posted quite obviously came from 3 different cameras, possibly 4.

The biggest problem for me is that his language usage is not consistent. Everyone has a certain rhythm to their writing. It's the same with behavior. Trying to write or act like someone else is difficult. Actors often spend months becoming the role they will play so they can portray the behavior naturally. Writers spend a long time developing characters. Otherwise the story isn't believable. His writing style isn't consistent and it doesn't flow correctly for a 23 year old from NYC.

Perhaps I'm wrong.

One last thing. Was there a downpour last night? I'm asking because 2 of my girls mentioned the heat yesterday and on hot sunny days, heavy rain usually comes late afternoon. Also, the idea that street girls in Lleras, or Provenza are either carrying or buying umbrellas is not something I can wrap my head around.[/QUOTE]This is sooooo funny to me and not because I'm some dude in my mom's basement making up stories and you guys are reacting like this. It's funny because I'm these things are true no matter how stupid it sounds.

What do o have to do to prove it to you guys. Maybe if nounce gives me a tour of Centro he can vouch.

About the language. My language isn't consistent because I take inspiration from a lot of cultures like gaming (feelsbadman, omega) NYC (that's deep, mad) I'm also Hispanic. So I know Spanish.

Also the fact that you said my language isn't consistent and that writers don't change their language and practice for years to get it consistent are opposing ideas. I'm not making this up. Idk how could be. It seems all legit to me newbie from NYC comes to Colombia after reading ISG used to be virgin bad at sex. What's not believable?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2713230]Add me to the list of skeptics.

Others have mentioned several suspicious things. Here are a few more. I don't believe there is a bench in La Isla outside of the girl's dressing room. Standing at the point farthest from the bar at La Isla would be on the left side, not the right, where the picture was taken from. Also, from either spot the entrance to La Isla is right of the bar. The exit is to the left, at the other end of the club.

Another problem is that the pictures he has posted quite obviously came from 3 different cameras, possibly 4.

The biggest problem for me is that his language usage is not consistent. Everyone has a certain rhythm to their writing. It's the same with behavior. Trying to write or act like someone else is difficult. Actors often spend months becoming the role they will play so they can portray the behavior naturally. Writers spend a long time developing characters. Otherwise the story isn't believable. His writing style isn't consistent and it doesn't flow correctly for a 23 year old from NYC.

Perhaps I'm wrong.

One last thing. Was there a downpour last night? I'm asking because 2 of my girls mentioned the heat yesterday and on hot sunny days, heavy rain usually comes late afternoon. Also, the idea that street girls in Lleras, or Provenza are either carrying or buying umbrellas is not something I can wrap my head around.[/QUOTE]Yes I mentioned it yesterday. It was raining O. D. Idk about the whether patterns haven't been to Laureles for long enough. Only to see Luna lunera closed. And yes I don't know about buying umbrellas but all the Lleras girls had umbrellas.

Also about la Isla. To prove to you I've been there let's see if you find this truthful. If you are facing the bar at la Isla all the way across from the strip poles looking at the bar, the entrance is to your left like behind you. Across from the poles in front of you is the bar surrounded by couches. To your right is where the girls change or something idk they were all going in there maybe it's a bathroom and to the right of the bar you are facing is the exit / place where you go get a room with a girl.

About the camera. No. Same camera unless you count my Samsung s21 having 3 cameras.

I dream of the day when someone other than Nounce day oh ok this information is useful this guy is legit.

Peace.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2713338]Yes I mentioned it yesterday. It was raining O. The. . Idk about the whether patterns haven't been to laureles for long enough. Only to see luna lunera closed. And yes I don't know about buying umbrellas but all the Lleras girls had umbrellas.

Also about la Isla. To prove to you I've been there let's see if you find this truthful. If you are facing the bar at la Isla all the way across from the strip poles looking at the bar, the entrance is to your left like behind you. Across from the poles in front of you is the bar sourounded by couches. To your right is where the girls change or something idk they were all going in there maybe it's a bathroom and to the right of the bar you are facing is the exit / place where you go get a room with a girl..[/QUOTE]You don't need to convince me of anything. My opinion is that your reports are suspect. Your attempts to convince people have increased those suspicions. Here's just one example why:

Let's define the interior of La Isla. Where the bar is located we'll call the front. If you're standing at the back of the bar, the stage runs from front to back. At the front, at the right end of the bar is the entrance. To the right of the entrance is the men's room. If you are standing at the bar, turn left and walk straight ahead you will reach the women's dressing room. Turn left again, walk straight to the back and the entrance to the bedrooms and the club exit will be to your right. Your description has everything in the wrong place.

I have an S22 Ultra. The Gusto and La Isla pictures were taken in low light conditions. The Gusto fotos are clear and sharp, even showing the park below. The La Isla foto obviously had to use a slow shutter speed to compensate for the low light. The photo of the girl, lighting is good, but photo is not sharp, lower resolution than the Gusto fotos. With an S21 that photo should be much better.

Keep up with the reports. Maybe my opinion will change.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2713317]
It's certainly possible to meet with a webcam model and many are willing to meet and fuck for a price. However, it's most likely to be either completely platonic, or show me the money and let's do this. Groping and DFK seems unlikely, especially with a guy who was a virgin 2 days ago. If he can make that much progress with someone he just met, from another country, he should have been able to get laid long before this.

[/QUOTE]I had a Webcam model back in May when I was there. (the one I posted pics of in the fucked up centro hotel that JustTK referred to as the children's hospice because of the bed sheets).

She was absolutely gorgeous and gave me some of the best sessions I have had in medellin to date. She tall skinny spinner vennie with dark brown skin. She gave me bareback everything and let me cum inside her, she'd give me back massage afterwards and chill and just talk. I originally was giving her 150 k for an hour but as I started seeing her more thru my trip the hour started turning into 2 or 3 hours. She would always come like at 6 am and stay until 8 or 9 am (she said she worked the webcam shit at night and got off at 5 am thus why she would come at 6 am. We called it our mananeras. She would always message me on whatsapp around 5:15 and let me know she was coming and we would do the share live location thing and I'd watch her on the map as she came from Aranjuez to my hotel in centro. She had the firmest tight body and nice tight pussy. It was an absolute pleasure to have sex with her. I even had gotten her down to 100 k plus taxi fare one day because I said I didn't want to have to go to the ATM. All in all I think I saw her about 6 or 7 times over the course of a month.

But I fucked it all up.

On my last encounter with her I was showing her pics on my phone or something I can't remember and she wanted to see my phone so I was like whatever sure and she went thru my whatsapp and saw my messages LOL. Messages I have with veracruz and botero chicks specifically finding me BBFS girls and bringing them to my hotel

Now the webcam girl hardly even talks to me and says I scared the shit out of her and called me cerdo asqueroso and all kinds of fucking names LOL.

Lesson learned don't let chicas look thru your phone.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2713502]I had a Webcam model back in May when I was there. (the one I posted pics of in the fucked up centro hotel that JustTK referred to as the children's hospice because of the bed sheets).

She was absolutely gorgeous and gave me some of the best sessions I have had in medellin to date. She tall skinny spinner vennie with dark brown skin. She gave me bareback everything and let me cum inside her, she'd give me back massage afterwards and chill and just talk. I originally was giving her 150 k for an hour but as I started seeing her more thru my trip the hour started turning into 2 or 3 hours. She would always come like at 6 am and stay until 8 or 9 am (she said she worked the webcam shit at night and got off at 5 am thus why she would come at 6 am. We called it our mananeras. She would always message me on whatsapp around 5:15 and let me know she was coming and we would do the share live location thing and I'd watch her on the map as she came from Aranjuez to my hotel in centro. She had the firmest tight body and nice tight pussy. It was an absolute pleasure to have sex with her. I even had gotten her down to 100 k plus taxi fare one day because I said I didn't want to have to go to the ATM. All in all I think I say her about 6 or 7 times over the course of a month.

But I fucked it all up.

On my last encounter with her I was showing her pics on my phone or something I can't remember and she wanted to see my phone so I was like whatever sure and she went thru my whatsapp and saw my messages LOL. Messages I have with veracruz and botero chicks specifically finding me BBFS girls and bringing them to hotel

Now the webcam girl hardly even talks to me and says I scared the shit out of her and called me cerdo asqueroso and all kinds of fucking names LOL.

Lesson learned don't let chicas look thru your phone.[/QUOTE]I think that lesson goes for all girls not just the chicas in Colombia LOL.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2713445]Does anyone actually still beleive anything the US Govt says?? Seriously?

Do not travel to the USA due to crime, civil unrest, poor health infrastructure, kidnapping, and the arrest and detention of foreign citizens without due process or fair trial guarantees. Exercise increased caution in the USA due to terrorism.

Violent crimes, such as homicide, armed robbery, kidnapping, and carjacking, are common. Political rallies and demonstrations occur, often with little notice. Demonstrations typically elicit a strong police and security force response that includes the use of tear gas, pepper spray, and rubber bullets against participants, and occasionally devolve into looting and vandalism. United Nations Human Rights Council documented human rights abuses attributed to the Biden regime, including torture, extrajudicial killings, forced disappearances, and detentions without due process and / or fair trial guarantees, or as a pretext for an illegitimate purpose. The DFA issued a Level 3 "Avoid Nonessential Travel" notice on 7 January, 2020, due to inadequate healthcare and the breakdown of the medical infrastructure in the USA.[/QUOTE]Put a sock in it. If you hate the US so much, don't go there. In the meantime why don't you tell us where you live. Or perhaps it would suck too much in comparison.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2713502]

But I fucked it all up.

On my last encounter with her I was showing her pics on my phone or something I can't remember and she wanted to see my phone so I was like whatever sure and she went thru my whatsapp and saw my messages LOL. Messages I have with veracruz and botero chicks specifically finding me BBFS girls and bringing them to my hotel.

Lesson learned don't let chicas look thru your phone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2713508]I think that lesson goes for all girls not just the chicas in Colombia LOL.[/QUOTE]Good point! Just added it to "Villainy's rules".

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2713265]Are you having your fucking period bro? Sorry if I pushed your buttons LOL. Just listen to her talk and you will understand why Kamala Haris is a stupid b*tch in the same category as Marjorie Taylor Green and Sarah Palin. Only difference is she is a liberal and the other two are conservatives but yes all 3 are stupid b*tches.
PS: you can add Nancy Pelosi to the same category too for that matter.[/QUOTE]Tranquillo. I agreed with you on 2 out of 3 and liberal vs conservative had nothing to do with it. I'm just curious what your credentials are, that you can call a well-educated and accomplished woman a stupid be*itch.

I take it since you wanted to make it about my "buttons" that you likely have [B] no credentials or accomplishments to speak of [/B]. So it's OK [B]bro[/B]. I'm pretty sure it doesn't apply here, but the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution does give you the right to speak (or in this case, write) foolishly.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2713565]Put a sock in it. If you hate the US so much, don't go there. In the meantime why don't you tell us where you live. Or perhaps it would suck too much in comparison.[/QUOTE]Doesn't he live in MDE?

[QUOTE=Huacho;2713687]Doesn't he live in MDE?[/QUOTE]Hehe, right! He doesn't appreciate that all I did was copy the words used in the article that I was referring to, and replaced "Venezuela" with "USA", just to show how biased the article was. If mine was a "anti-American rant", then the article must have been an "anti-Venezuelan rant".

[QUOTE=JustTK;2713870]Hehe, right! He doesn't appreciate that all I did was copy the words used in the article that I was referring to, and replaced "Venezuela" with "USA", just to show how biased the article was. If mine was a "anti-American rant", then the article must have been an "anti-Venezuelan rant".[/QUOTE]You didn't refer to anything and you periodically go off on your anti-US rants. SO tell me. Where are you from that is so much better?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2713230]Add me to the list of skeptics.

.... I don't believe there is a bench in La Isla outside of the girl's dressing room. ....[/QUOTE]When is the last time you went to La Isla? It's been remodeled and layout has changed.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2713687]Doesn't he live in MDE?[/QUOTE]Or his mom's basement. Anybody has met him? Just Kidding, I think Surfer has met him before. I have to do it so he can taste his own medicine. LOL.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2714187]Or his mom's basement. Anybody has met him? Just Kidding, I think Surfer has met him before. I have to do it so he can taste his own medicine. LOL.[/QUOTE]At least 2 other prominent members have met me. If you want to meet up you better do it fast bcos I am out of here pretty soon. I dunno where I will be in the long term, but in the short term I will be in a place where many fear to tread. It should be an interesting adventure and one that has been prompted by my experiences in Colombia over the past few years.

And BTW: Criminal was wrong as usual. Here is the article and post I clearly responded to:

"[URL]https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/venezuela-travel-advisory.html[/URL].

Yikes nevermind. ".

[QUOTE=Villainy;2713573]Tranquillo. I agreed with you on 2 out of 3 and liberal vs conservative had nothing to do with it. I'm just curious what your credentials are, that you can call a well-educated and accomplished woman a stupid be*itch.

I take it since you wanted to make it about my "buttons" that you likely have [B] no credentials or accomplishments to speak of [/B]. So it's OK [B]bro[/B]. I'm pretty sure it doesn't apply here, but the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution does give you the right to speak (or in this case, write) foolishly.[/QUOTE]Similar to my recent rant about "respected members" here. No one here is a paid consultant. Credentials and accomplishments have no place in a forum such as this. The content speaks for itself independent of the education, social status, wealth, religion, perceived intelligence, color of the skin or any other way you care to categorize a user. Everyone here at least starts with equal footing. This is the unfiltered InterWeb. Please leave so called "credentials" out of the conversation. I may have been guilty of the same in the past but really, each post should be judged on it's own merit independent of the source. Granted, some users are extremely predictable and seem to get bent a certain way every time, but the entire structure of this board and the way messages appear and fade, means all that really counts is what you see and read in real time.

These are 2 great independent news clips on the new president of Colombia. Watch them if you would like to listen to the issues not shaped by the political narrative of your own country.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmIuqC2Rn1w&t=62s[/URL] (UK. Watch til 11:40).

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xay_2RusUew[/URL] (Canada).

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2714538]Similar to my recent rant about "respected members" here. No one here is a paid consultant. Credentials and accomplishments have no place in a forum such as this. The content speaks for itself independent of the education, social status, wealth, religion, perceived intelligence, color of the skin or any other way you care to categorize a user. Everyone here at least starts with equal footing. This is the unfiltered InterWeb. Please leave so called "credentials" out of the conversation. I may have been guilty of the same in the past but really, each post should be judged on it's own merit independent of the source. Granted, some users are extremely predictable and seem to get bent a certain way every time, but the entire structure of this board and the way messages appear and fade, means all that really counts is what you see and read in real time.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you might have been on a 2 see induced halluciogenic rant. No one really cares if someone calls someone an idiot (or stupid be*itch in this case). But context is important if it is to be taken with even 1/1000th of a grain of salt. Is the OP an idiot? In which case his opinions should be ignored as a bad use of electrons (meaning his words on the internet). OR is the poster actually accomplished or well educated? Maybe then his comments merit consideration. The point, Ostee, was, there was [B]no context[/B].

Did the "stupid be*tch" vote to prevent drilling in San Francisco Bay and the OP is an oil guy and found that vote offensive? Or did she propose legislation while in the Senate to require sobriety monitoring devices in all new vehicles? Good goal but horrible invasive idea.

Given the "stupid be*itch" at issue is very well educated and has a very accomplished career, I think at least some explanation is warranted for the comment to be taken as more than "idiot speak."

[QUOTE=Villainy;2715027]Yeah, you might have been on a 2 see induced halluciogenic rant. No one really cares if someone calls someone an idiot (or stupid be*itch in this case). But context is important if it is to be taken with even 1/1000th of a grain of salt. Is the OP an idiot? In which case his opinions should be ignored as a bad use of electrons (meaning his words on the internet). OR is the poster actually accomplished or well educated? Maybe then his comments merit consideration. The point, Ostee, was, there was [B]no context[/B].

Did the "stupid be*tch" vote to prevent drilling in San Francisco Bay and the OP is an oil guy and found that vote offensive? Or did she propose legislation while in the Senate to require sobriety monitoring devices in all new vehicles? Good goal but horrible invasive idea.

Given the "stupid be*itch" at issue is very well educated and has a very accomplished career, I think at least some explanation is warranted for the comment to be taken as more than "idiot speak."[/QUOTE]Are we still going on about the Kamala Harris being a stupid b*tch thing? I was going to just let it go for the sake of not starting an argument on here but since you guys want to bring it up agn, let's see.

1. She claims to be African American when she in fact is not. This even surprised me and was brought to my attention by my ex-fiance / bm who is black. Kamala is actually masquerading as an African American so she could win over black voters, she actually is like half Jamaican and half Indian and shares little in common with African American culture.

2. She claimed to be a progressive prosecutor when she was SF District Attorney, offering delayed sentences, diversion programs, charging felonies as misdemeanors, etc. Which resulted in an increase in crime that you see in SF (smash and grab robberies at Walgreens, increased shoplifting, muggings, etc.).

3. She fucked Willie Brown to get into her career.

4. When she gives interviews and press conferences she always deflects questions and doesn't give the answers to simple yes or no questions. She just deflects the questions and then does her annoying laugh.

5. She doesn't have any real experience in politics. Her domestic policy is a joke too. Wasn't she placed in charge of fixing the problems at the border? Look at what just happened in San Antonio with the 53 dead migrants in the truck trailer?

6. She is a fucking disgrace.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2715027]Yeah, you might have been on a 2 see induced halluciogenic rant. No one really cares if someone calls someone an idiot (or stupid be*itch in this case). But context is important if it is to be taken with even 1/1000th of a grain of salt. Is the OP an idiot? In which case his opinions should be ignored as a bad use of electrons (meaning his words on the internet). OR is the poster actually accomplished or well educated? Maybe then his comments merit consideration. The point, Ostee, was, there was [B]no context[/B].

Did the "stupid be*tch" vote to prevent drilling in San Francisco Bay and the OP is an oil guy and found that vote offensive? Or did she propose legislation while in the Senate to require sobriety monitoring devices in all new vehicles? Good goal but horrible invasive idea.

Given the "stupid be*itch" at issue is very well educated and has a very accomplished career, I think at least some explanation is warranted for the comment to be taken as more than "idiot speak."[/QUOTE]A little bit of a low blow evoking tussi as part of my reasoning, but I can handle it. "Idiot speak" speaks for itself, without any additional explanation. You may have the last word if needed, on this thread.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2715106]

1. She claims to be African American when she in fact is not. This even surprised me and was brought to my attention by my ex-fiance / bm who is black. Kamala is actually masquerading as an African American so she could win over black voters, she actually is like half Jamaican and half Indian and shares little in common with African American culture.[/QUOTE]Yes her father was Jamaican. How did the blacks in Jamaica get there? Same way as in the US. She was born and grew up in Oakland. Ever been there? It sure isn't exactly pale over there. I'm pretty sure she identified as black (afro-american) growing up. She attended Howard University which is a HBCU. (Historically Black College / University) She is 1/2 black, after all.

Just as an aside, there aren't that many blacks in the US that don't have some amount of "plantation blood". Should they be called frauds also??

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2715106]2. She claimed to be a progressive prosecutor when she was SF District Attorney, offering delayed sentences, diversion programs, charging felonies as misdemeanors, etc. Which resulted in an increase in crime that you see in SF (smash and grab robberies at Walgreens, increased shoplifting, muggings, etc.).[/QUOTE]Maybe you don't remember the Democratic primaries. Harris was ousted because her record was too tough on crime. I know you don't believe it but I remember it, she was a star after the first debate because she stuck a knife in Biden. She became the instant super-star but after that Tulsi Gabbert gutted her on her record as a overly tough District Attorney and later Attorney General for California. She wasn't able to defend against those charges.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2715106]3. She fucked Willie Brown to get into her career.[/QUOTE]Not the greatest judgement dating a married man. But we all be fuckin' someone. As to Willie helping her? She won the election for District Attorney of SF and she won reelection unopposed. I think Senator Diane Feinstein's support had more to do with helping her than anything else.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2715106]4. When she gives interviews and press conferences she always deflects questions and doesn't give the answers to simple yes or no questions. She just deflects the questions and then does her annoying laugh.[/QUOTE]If you say so. I think of her as the prototypical vice-president. Rarely seen and even more rarely heard.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2715106]5. She doesn't have any real experience in politics. Her domestic policy is a joke too. Wasn't she placed in charge of fixing the problems at the border? Look at what just happened in San Antonio with the 53 dead migrants in the truck trailer[/QUOTE]Total BS. 7 years as District Attorney of SF, 6 years as Attorney General of California, 4 years as US Senator from California. All of those are elected positions. That would give her more experience in politics than many of our Presidents. And a hell of a lot more than the last clown.

Oddly enough you don't seem to understand that the VP doesn't "set policy" the president does.

[B]President Biden has directed Ambassador Susan Rice, Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy, to lead a Domestic Policy Council system that brings greater dignity, equity, opportunity, and prosperity to the everyday lives of Americans. Staffed by policy experts on a range of issues, the DPC will craft and implement policies on everything from education to health and immigration, along with cross-cutting issues that tackle the profound and multifaceted challenges and opportunities before us.[/B]

[URL]https://www.whitehouse.gov/dpc/[/URL]

She was asked to find a solution to the problems at the Southern border and hasn't had any success. I think it is absurd to say it is her fault that the 53 migrants died in the trailer. No one in 100 years has been able to fix the problem at the border. Trump's wall sure didn't seem to stop anything. What was that poem??

Your wall is pretty, Your wall is new.

Over, under, around and through.

We like to call it Trump avenue.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2715106]6. She is a fucking disgrace.[/QUOTE]Whatever you say buddy. I'm sure your irrationality would change 180 degrees if she put an [B]R[/B] next to her name. Oh and before you ask it. I'm not Willie Brown.

So why do I defend her? For some years I worked in the Securities Industry. (But not in California) One of the big problems was that many state and municipal investment managers started taking "incentives" to learn about the derivatives markets (options basically) and they started making outrageously risky moves which nearly bankrupted some municipalities and Harris as attorney general pushed for and got through legislation than prohibited or drastically curtailed the amount of risk that cities and counties could take on. When they started to lose revenue, they were forced to adhere to a budget and cut salaries or positions. This was critical in helping California from continuously having to bail out counties and cities that went bankrupt.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2715106]Are we still going on about the Kamala Harris being a stupid b*tch thing? I was going to just let it go for the sake of not starting an argument on here but since you guys want to bring it up agn, let's see. ...[/QUOTE]I can add another point. A Democrat being elected to any position in California does not make them "accomplished". As you stated, she got her start in politics by fucking Willie Brown. After that, she only had to get her name, with a D next to it, on the ballot.

If she is so accomplished, why did she drop out of the presidential race so early? Also, why does she have a 35% approval rating, and a 48% disapproval?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2715174]I can add another point. A Democrat being elected to any position in California does not make them "accomplished".[/QUOTE]Fair enough but she did have to win primaries and at least one run-off to get elected.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2715174]As you stated, she got her start in politics by fucking Willie Brown.[/QUOTE]Trump was married and fucking porn-stars and playmates. I did hear you guys belly-aching about that. So what bothered you more? The color of her skin or who she shared her vagina with?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2715174]If she is so accomplished, why did she drop out of the presidential race so early?[/QUOTE]She started out as a star in the first debate when she humiliated Biden. But afterwards Tulsi Gabbert killed her by claiming she was a harsh District Attorney for SF and Attorney General for California and there was no good answer to those charges. After that everyone piled on and she plummeted in the polls and dropped out.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2715174]Also, why does she have a 35% approval rating, and a 48% disapproval?[/QUOTE]I don't know. Noone said she was charming or lovable. But that doesn't make her stupid.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2715152]Yes her father was Jamaican. How did the blacks in Jamaica get there? Same way as in the US. She was born and grew up in Oakland. Ever been there? It sure isn't exactly pale over there. I'm pretty sure she identified as black (afro-american) growing up. She attended Howard University which is a HBCU. (Historically Black College / University) She is 1/2 black, after all.

Just as an aside, there aren't that many blacks in the US that don't have some amount of "plantation blood". Should they be called frauds also??

Maybe you don't remember the Democratic primaries. Harris was ousted because her record was too tough on crime. I know you don't believe it but I remember it, she was a star after the first debate because she stuck a knife in Biden. She became the instant super-star but after that Tulsi Gabbert gutted her on her record as a overly tough District Attorney and later Attorney General for California. She wasn't able to defend against those charges.

Not the greatest judgement dating a married man. But we all be fuckin' someone. As to Willie helping her? She won the election for District Attorney of SF and she won reelection unopposed. I think Senator Diane Feinstein's support had more to do with helping her than anything else.

If you say so. I think of her as the prototypical vice-president. Rarely seen and even more rarely heard.

Total BS. 7 years as District Attorney of SF, 6 years as Attorney General of California, 4 years as US Senator from California. All of those are elected positions. That would give her more experience in politics than many of our Presidents. And a hell of a lot more than the last clown.

Oddly enough you don't seem to understand that the VP doesn't "set policy" the president does.[/QUOTE]Either way, she is incredibly ineffective and brings no talent to the table. Interviews are totally a joke. She will never get my vote.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2714950]So where have they gone? Or do they no longer occasionally need to make money that way?[/QUOTE]This is the same chump that wrote several months ago her friend offered 3 million cop to some cow at La Isla and said "good for him".

Now she's whining that other "fake ballers" are ruining the scene for her LOL.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2715152]Yes her father was Jamaican. How did the blacks in Jamaica get there? Same way as in the US. She was born and grew up in Oakland. Ever been there? It sure isn't exactly pale over there. I'm pretty sure she identified as black (afro-american) growing up. She attended Howard University which is a HBCU. (Historically Black College / University) She is 1/2 black, after all.[/QUOTE]He argued that she is not African American. You are arguing that she is 1/2 Black (Although I think it was her father that was half Black, which would make her less than half Black?) These are 2 different arguments in which you are both correct. She is actually Jamaican Indian. She was raised by an Indian mother with Indian culture, not African American culture, despite where they lived. (I saw them on some cooking show making Indian food together, not African American food.).

Most of the reason that she was able to climb aboard the African American train is because she went to a Black school and pledged a historically Black sorority (and she is a dead ringer for my African American cousin). Most people figure Black school, Black people. But that is not true at all. Having attended a Black school myself, I know that not everyone there was Black or African American. We had some White people (can't get federal money by having race restrictions) and we had a shitload of people from the Caribbean Islands that were of Indian descent as is VP Harris.

It is a funny thing that out of the millions of Black Americans that are descendants of American slaves, America goes out of her way to install high ranking politicians such as Obama and Harris that are not and says here are some Black people to appease you. To me that should be a slap in the face to African Americans. But most are happy to accept and tout what they are given, nevermind it being a false narrative.

P.S. I never use the term African American. I prefer Black or Black American. But it was important to use it here in order to differentiate Blacks Americans of American slave descent and those that descended from other parts of the diaspora.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2715152]Whatever you say buddy. I'm sure your irrationality would change 180 degrees if she put an [B]R[/B] next to her name. Oh and before you ask it. I'm not Willie Brown.

So why do I defend her? For some years I worked in the Securities Industry. (But not in California) One of the big problems was that many state and municipal investment managers started taking "incentives" to learn about the derivatives markets (options basically) and they started making outrageously risky moves which nearly bankrupted some municipalities and Harris as attorney general pushed for and got through legislation than prohibited or drastically curtailed the amount of risk that cities and counties could take on. When they started to lose revenue, they were forced to adhere to a budget and cut salaries or positions. This was critical in helping California from continuously having to bail out counties and cities that went bankrupt.[/QUOTE]It's quite funny you would say that. I'm actually more aligned with the democrats than with the Republicans. I am by no means a Trump supporter or anything of the like with all their fake news QAnon conspiracy bullshit, etc. That being said, I think Kamala Harris is a Joke and Biden is old and senile. I actually liked Bernie Sanders and think he would have made a much better president than Biden, but that doesn't matter now. Oh and I'm glad Petro won the election too.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2715191]Trump was married and fucking porn-stars and playmates. I did hear you guys belly-aching about that. So what bothered you more? The color of her skin or who she shared her vagina with?[/QUOTE]Throughout history women have been known to get their come-up-ins because of certain men they fuck. What higher status, wealth, or anything is usually in it for a man because of the women he fucked? (Shout out to that pioneer Kevin Federline.).

What did Trump gain by fucking a porno chick? Bragging rights to his friends? What did VP Harris gain by fucking WB? A political career that led straight to the office of VP?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2715371]Throughout history women have been known to get their come-up-ins because of certain men they fuck. What higher status, wealth, or anything is usually in it for a man because of the women he fucked? (Shout out to that pioneer Kevin Federline.).

What did Trump gain by fucking a porno chick? Bragging rights to his friends? What did VP Harris gain by fucking WB? A political career that led straight to the office of VP?[/QUOTE]We've all had our say. Since this is the Stupid Shit In [B]Medellin[/B] thread, it's time to revert back to topics of warped interest to those of us that live or visit here. Agreed?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2715191]
Trump was married and fucking porn-stars and playmates. I did hear you guys belly-aching about that. So what bothered you more? The color of her skin or who she shared her vagina with?[/QUOTE]First of all, it has not been proven that Trump fucked porn-stars and playmates, and he hasn't admitted to it. But he probably did. If he did, did that elevate his position in anything? It's a completely different situation than that of Kamala. What bothers me is her total ineptness as VP, not the color of her skin. Condoleezza Rice is an accomplished person, and didn't embarrass the US on the world stage. That can't be said for Kamala Harris.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2715491]First of all, it has not been proven that Trump fucked porn-stars and playmates, and he hasn't admitted to it. But he probably did. If he did, did that elevate his position in anything? It's a completely different situation than that of Kamala. What bothers me is her total ineptness as VP, not the color of her skin. Condoleezza Rice is an accomplished person, and didn't embarrass the US on the world stage. That can't be said for Kamala Harris.[/QUOTE]Good example. I don't like Condoleeza as IMO she's a complete war-monger, but when you listen to her talk, it's obvious she is very bright. When I listen to Kamala talk, all I can think of is ineptness and how the f did she make it to Vice President. Maybe it's persistence, maybe the right person helped her, maybe she just "fell upward" (whatever the expression is).

Though it's not the norm, there are people who make it very far in life who aren't that bright. From both sides of the aisle, I give you George W. Bush and Joe Biden (young Biden didn't come across as intelligent at all and he's obviously decayed with age). Two great examples of guys who fell upward all the way to possibly the most powerful person on the Planet.

[QUOTE=Combo;2715522]Good example. I don't like Condoleeza o Kamala George W. Bush and Joe Biden (young Biden didn't come across as intelligent at all and he's obviously decayed with age). Two great examples of guys who fell upward all the way to possibly the most powerful person on the Planet.[/QUOTE]Maybe they are te kinds of leaders wanted in the USA, Canada, France, Britain and elsewhere. Morons who will do what they are told. With no worthwhile CV, like an Eisenhower, to show. Boris Johnson is an obvious philanderer, clown, opportunist but the media, which is also controlled, love him.

Hunter Biden, no exposure etc.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2715491]It's a completely different situation than that of Kamala. What bothers me is her total ineptness as VP, not the color of her skin. Condoleezza Rice is an accomplished person, and didn't embarrass the US on the world stage. That can't be said for Kamala Harris.[/QUOTE]It is like she is in a real life Madd TV or Saturday Night Live skit. You are thinking this could not be serious. If you are going to BS your way to the top, at least seem like you know what you are doing once you get there. Don't be totally clueless without any sensible or well thought out answers.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2715230]This is the same chump that wrote several months ago her friend offered 3 million cop to some cow at La Isla and said "good for him".

Now she's whining that other "fake ballers" are ruining the scene for her LOL.[/QUOTE]Let's get something straight. All I did was report an observation.

I don't care how much girls charge if they're quality girls.

My point was that the quality of girls has tremendously declined along with the ambiance of lleras.

And yes I know fake ballers when I see them.

I am not mongering anymore since I have a Colombian model GF who I see every month.

And oh BTW before we get into the "she's only in it for the money" I would personally like to brag to you that she just recently bought me 1000 $ pair of Versace sneakers and 400 $ Burberry shirt for my birthday with her own money. And before you get a chance to say they're fake she wired my friend in America the money so he can use his CC and deliver it to me directly from the sites to surprise me on my actual bday.

Since most if not all your posts on this site about women are demeaning and you think they're all worth 20 $ for pussy etc along with the fact your posts are always useless just thought I'the throw a little something more for you to hate on me about.

But hey you do you bud!! Lmao.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2715724]Let's get something straight. All I did was report an observation.

I don't care how much girls charge if they're quality girls.

My point was that the quality of girls has tremendously declined along with the ambiance of lleras.

And yes I know fake ballers when I see them.

I am not mongering anymore since I have a Colombian model GF who I see every month.

And oh BTW before we get into the "she's only in it for the money" I would personally like to brag to you that she just recently bought me 1000 $ pair of Versace sneakers and 400 $ Burberry shirt for my birthday with her own money. And before you get a chance to say they're fake she wired my friend in America the money so he can use his CC and deliver it to me directly from the sites to surprise me on my actual bday. [/QUOTE]I love your situation and am happy for you but I am afraid your response is wasted on that lug nut. That's like trying to tell an ant in the depths of a mound where his place is in the solar system. That is beyond his comprehension or ability to relate. His brain will short-circuit into some compensatory default mode.

Reached another milestone with Catgirl. As you may recall, she is bisexual. But up until now, I had to use the girls she picked for our three-ways. Finally, she realized that some of my girls are gems who have been with me now for over two years, and she opened up to the idea of including them. The other night, Scarlet and Catgirl spent the night, and it was transcendent. They got along so well at times it was if I was not even in the room. But don't worry, that situation only lasted for a few minutes.

I thought Catgirl was making a video of me with her phone while I was banging Scarlet "en cuatro" or doggy style, when in fact she was on a video call with her mega-rich TikTok boyfriend from the Dominican Republic. She told me to speak into the phone and tell him what I was doing. I said in the best Spanish I could muster, "I am fucking my Number Two girlfriend while the love of my live and Number One girlfriend, watches". He laughed so hard and told the three of us to get on a jet that morning and fly to his estate in the DR. Without missing a pump, I thanked him and told him we would take a rain-check.

Jajajjajaajajajjaajjaaaaaaa. If it weren't for family and friends, I would never go back to the US of A.

I am that kid in school, if you told me to sit down, I would run around the room. If you told me to shut-up, I would tell jokes about the teacher. I think I will double-down and start posting twice daily reports here, until such time admin bans me for life here, which I would not be surprised if they do, jajajjaa.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2715771]I love your situation and am happy for you but I am afraid your response is wasted on that lug nut. That's like trying to tell an ant in the depths of a mound where his place is in the solar system. That is beyond his comprehension or ability to relate. His brain will short-circuit into some compensatory default mode.

Reached another milestone with Catgirl. As you may recall, she is bisexual. But up until now, I had to use the girls she picked for our three-ways. Finally, she realized that some of my girls are gems who have been with me now for over two years, and she opened up to the idea of including them. The other night, Scarlet and Catgirl spent the night, and it was transcendent. They got along so well at times it was if I was not even in the room. But don't worry, that situation only lasted for a few minutes.

I thought Catgirl was making a video of me with her phone while I was banging Scarlet "en cuatro" or doggy style, when in fact she was on a video call with her mega-rich TikTok boyfriend from the Dominican Republic. She told me to speak into the phone and tell him what I was doing. I said in the best Spanish I could muster, "I am fucking my Number Two girlfriend while the love of my live and Number One girlfriend, watches". He laughed so hard and told the three of us to get on a jet that morning and fly to his estate in the DR. Without missing a pump, I thanked him and told him we would take a rain-check.

Jajajjajaajajajjaajjaaaaaaa. If it weren't for family and friends, I would never go back to the US of A.

I am that kid in school, if you told me to sit down, I would run around the room. If you told me to shut-up, I would tell jokes about the teacher. I think I will double-down and start posting twice daily reports here, until such time admin bans me for life here, which I would not be surprised if they do, jajajjaa.[/QUOTE]Until such time admin bans me for life?

Don't worry we're sure youll be in the morgue or one of the fine Colombian prisons for your "antics" long before that happens, not unlike the infamous ISG Jake.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2715590]It is like she is in a real life Madd TV or Saturday Night Live skit. You are thinking this could not be serious. If you are going to BS your way to the top, at least seem like you know what you are doing once you get there. Don't be totally clueless without any sensible or well thought out answers.[/QUOTE][URL]https://twitter.com/michaeljknowles/...78426100527107[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/middle-eas...tion-comments/[/URL]

But lately, this forum is full of reports that are not helpful. I get all of you guys are trying to get the most females, or are trying to save a few bucks, or are trying to grab a few facebook girls. I get it. It's a pissing competition.

Whatever.

I don't care about that.

I was thinking about going to Colombia, because obviously it's super hot right now. I get there are a lot of noobs going to Colombia, but it's probably because tickets to Asia are so expensive right now. Therefore, there is a Colombia proliferation.

I'm looking to monger cheap and easy.

I don't want BS, and I want it to be simple.

I'm thinking escort agencies in Colombia are probably the way to go. Lots of you guys are getting spiked drinks or scammed. I think for security reasons this probably puts you in a safer place.

Additionally, Street girls are always a crap shoot. Sure, I get a few of you guys really know your way around town. Awesome, for you guys.

Can anyone here please give me useful information on good escort agencies and how to successfully navigate the airport to Medellin trip would be greatly appreciated.

If I have to spend an extra $10, I don't care. I want this to be an awesome trip, and I would rather not report back to you guys another failed attempt.

Thanks. Otherwise I'm going to Guadalajara, because people on that forum make sense.

Thank you for sharing. I wish you an enjoyable visit to Guadalajara if you aren't able to find what you are looking for using the search feature (RTFF).

[QUOTE=RadioDude;2716129]But lately, this forum is full of reports that are not helpful. I get all of you guys are trying to get the most females, or are trying to save a few bucks, or are trying to grab a few facebook girls. I get it. It's a pissing competition.

Whatever.

I don't care about that.

I was thinking about going to Columbia, because obviously it's super hot right now. I get there are a lot of NOOBS going to Columbia, but it's probably because tickets to Asia are so expensive right now. Therefore, there is a Columbia proliferation.

I'm looking to monger cheap and easy.

I don't want BS, and I want it to be simple.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RadioDude;2716129]But lately, this forum is full of reports that are not helpful. I get all of you guys are trying to get the most females, or are trying to save a few bucks, or are trying to grab a few facebook girls. I get it. It's a pissing competition.

Whatever.

I don't care about that..[/QUOTE]If $10 is your tip, and you feel safer in Guadalajara then your decision is already made, Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=RadioDude;2716129]But lately, this forum is full of reports that are not helpful. I get all of you guys are trying to get the most females, or are trying to save a few bucks, or are trying to grab a few facebook girls. I get it. It's a pissing competition.

Whatever.

I don't care about that.

I was thinking about going to Columbia, because obviously it's super hot right now. I get there are a lot of NOOBS going to Columbia, but it's probably because tickets to Asia are so expensive right now. Therefore, there is a Columbia proliferation.

I'm looking to monger cheap and easy.

I don't want BS, and I want it to be simple.

I'm thinking escort agencies in Columbia are probably the way to go. Lots of you guys are getting spiked drinks or scammed. I think for security reasons this probably puts you in a safer place.

Additionally, Street girls are always a crap shoot. Sure, I get a few of you guys really know your way around town. Awesome, for you guys.

Can anyone here please give me useful information on good escort agencies and how to successfully navigate the airport to Medellin trip would be greatly appreciated.

If I have to spend an extra $10, I don't care. I want this to be an awesome trip, and I would rather not report back to you guys another failed attempt.

Thanks. Otherwise I'm going to Guadalajara, because people on that forum make sense.[/QUOTE]Colombia.

Escort agencies in Colombia are probably the least popular way to monger.

Enjoy Guadalajara.

[QUOTE=RadioDude;2716129]But lately, this forum is full of reports that are not helpful. I get all of you guys are trying to get the most females, or are trying to save a few bucks, or are trying to grab a few facebook girls. I get it. It's a pissing competition.

Whatever.

I don't care about that.

I was thinking about going to Columbia, because obviously it's super hot right now. I get there are a lot of NOOBS going to Columbia, but it's probably because tickets to Asia are so expensive right now. Therefore, there is a Columbia proliferation.

I'm looking to monger cheap and easy.

I don't want BS, and I want it to be simple.

I'm thinking escort agencies in Columbia are probably the way to go. Lots of you guys are getting spiked drinks or scammed. I think for security reasons this probably puts you in a safer place.

Additionally, Street girls are always a crap shoot. Sure, I get a few of you guys really know your way around town. Awesome, for you guys.

Can anyone here please give me useful information on good escort agencies and how to successfully navigate the airport to Medellin trip would be greatly appreciated.

If I have to spend an extra $10, I don't care. I want this to be an awesome trip, and I would rather not report back to you guys another failed attempt.

Thanks. Otherwise I'm going to Guadalajara, because people on that forum make sense.[/QUOTE]Throw out a few insults then demand answers, all of which could be found with a few seconds of reading. As for escort agencies, good luck. I never have used one, and most on this board probably never have, but there are some posts I think.

Step 2 read the forum.

[QUOTE=RadioDude;2716129]But lately, this forum is full of reports that are not helpful. I get all of you guys are trying to get the most females, or are trying to save a few bucks, or are trying to grab a few facebook girls. I get it. It's a pissing competition.

Whatever.

I don't care about that. [/QUOTE]Here's the thing. If you don't care about something, don't mention it. For example, if you don't want a girl to put her fist up your ass, don't spend 5 minutes talking about girls sticking their fists up your ass. She might jump to the wrong conclusion which could alter your appreciation of the session.

When you say "lately", what are you comparing lately to? I've been here for several years and it's like a soap opera, the plots constantly repeat, only the characters change.

[QUOTE]I was thinking about going to Columbia, because obviously it's super hot right now. I get there are a lot of NOOBS going to Columbia, but it's probably because tickets to Asia are so expensive right now. Therefore, there is a Columbia proliferation.[/QUOTE]I'd give up on visiting Columbia right now, it is super hot, and humid, but that's typical for this time of year in Missouri. Plus, from what I've seen the girls are a bit of a disappointment. Colombia might be a better destination.

[QUOTE]I'm looking to monger cheap and easy.

I don't want BS, and I want it to be simple.

I'm thinking escort agencies in Columbia are probably the way to go. Lots of you guys are getting spiked drinks or scammed. I think for security reasons this probably puts you in a safer place.

Additionally, Street girls are always a crap shoot. Sure, I get a few of you guys really know your way around town. Awesome, for you guys.[/QUOTE]This is the point where just a tiny bit of research would have served you well.

If you want it cheap and easy, there are many casas. They are cheap, they are easy and they eliminate the risk of getting drugged and robbed.

Sure, you can use escort agencies. You will pay more.

Depending on the agency, you may have a long wait for your girl to arrive, you may end up with a different girl than the one you selected, or you may be required to pay in advance by bank transfer.

[QUOTE]Can anyone here please give me useful information on good escort agencies and how to successfully navigate the airport to Medellin trip would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I just happen to know an escort agency. They aren't cheap. They may not have a girl available that appeals to you at the price you want to pay. The service offered might not match the service desired. However, they won't catfish you and they won't keep you waiting all night. However, like most businesses, you need to contact them at a reasonable hour to set up your date.

Once you're a paid subscriber here, send me a pm and I'll give you the number.

Navigating the trip to Medellin will be difficult. You'll need a sextant and a compass, and if it's cloudy, you're screwed. Leave the navigation to a taxi driver who already knows the way.

After you get through immigration and customs, walk past anyone who approaches you and says "taxi", they aren't taxis and are the most expensive option. You can identify a taxi by answering 2 questions:

1. Is it outside the terminal? Taxis aren't allowed inside the terminal.

2. Is it a car which has the word "Taxi" prominently displayed?

The current rate for a white taxi from the airport has been reported several times in response to your post. Approach the driver at the front of the line and ask "cuanto cuesta?" If he gives a response within the range you're willing to pay, get in, otherwise go down the line until you find one charging the correct price.

[QUOTE]If I have to spend an extra $10, I don't care. I want this to be an awesome trip, and I would rather not report back to you guys another failed attempt.

Thanks. Otherwise I'm going to Guadalajara, because people on that forum make sense.[/QUOTE]It appears that you've never reported a trip, failed or otherwise. Therefore there is no chance you'll report another failed trip.

Here's the really useful advice:

If nobody is doing things one way, there are probably some good reasons. Being the only guy wearing flip-flops on the dairy farm doesn't make you a visionary or an innovator. It just means you are going to end up with shit between your toes.

And:

Going to McDonald's and threatening to go to Burger King if they don't get you a Whopper, is probably not going to get you a Whopper. None of us get paid by the number of noobs we convince to visit Medellin.

[QUOTE=RadioDude;2716129]I'm looking to monger cheap and easy.

I don't want BS, and I want it to be simple.

I'm thinking escort agencies in Columbia are probably the way to go.

Can anyone here please give me useful information on good escort agencies and how to successfully navigate the airport to Medellin trip would be greatly appreciated.

If I have to spend an extra $10, I don't care. I want this to be an awesome trip, and I would rather not report back to you guys another failed attempt.

Thanks. Otherwise I'm going to Guadalajara, because people on that forum make sense.[/QUOTE]You are amazing!

You want to monger cheap and easy but have not done any research to make that happen. Example is the taxi or bus from the airport to town. That is talked about repeatedly about every 3 weeks.

You say we make no sense. But you say you want cheap but want to go the most expensive route using escorts. What a contradiction. You are willing to spend an extra $10 dollars for an awesome trip. Bad news. Awesome costs a whole lot more than that, especially with an escort.

I can not remember the last time anyone on the Medellin forum talked about escorts, but was mentioned a few times in some of the other cities. Try Google. "Medellin" and "Escorts." Good luck with that.

You do not want BS and want it simple. Well no matter what route you take to get girls there is always plenty of BS even for the veterans here. Just a page or two back you can read about the newbie who has not had much luck on FB with all the contacts he made early on. It is you are first time here so there will be an abundance of BS and difficulty.

Cheap, easy, safe, no BS. I think you should be shopping for a blow up doll.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2716576]I thought you were doubling down? Come on bro, Mr 3rd world puta ass eater, Mr Diarrhea of the mouth, what's wrong cat got your tongue?

All of us and the Fiscalias office are waiting with bated breath for those twice daily reports ala those fools that gang rape a girl and upload it to FB.

Lets see what you've got dirtbag.[/QUOTE]He has some real world experience visiting other countries and sharing his experiences in the forums. He has actually met other people who can confirm he isn't a fraud.

Perhaps when you climb out of your mother's basement and go somewhere and do something, your opinion will be worth something. Until then, go watch some porn and beat off.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2716594]

If nobody is doing things one way, there are probably some good reasons. Being the only guy wearing flip-flops on the dairy farm doesn't make you a visionary or an innovator. It just means you are going to end up with shit between your toes.

Going to McDonald's and threatening to go to Burger King if they don't get you a Whopper, is probably not going to get you a Whopper. None of us get paid by the number of noobs we convince to visit Medellin.[/QUOTE]Gawd, seems you can be genuinely funny when you want, jajajajaa. Thanks for my best smile of my day.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2716667]He has some real world experience visiting other countries and sharing his experiences in the forums. He has actually met other people who can confirm he isn't a fraud.

Perhaps when you climb out of your mother's basement and go somewhere and do something, your opinion will be worth something. Until then, go watch some porn and beat off.[/QUOTE]Most times when I try to reply to you or slimballsang, my posts are blocked.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLQ2TIul8pI&t=241s[/URL]

See'est a vie.

Post script pederasts / misery love company.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2717101]Most times when I try to reply to you or slimballsang, my posts are blocked.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLQ2TIul8pI&t=241s[/URL]

See'est a vie.

Post script pederasts / misery love company.[/QUOTE]Mr 3rd world puta ass eater had me in stiches.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2717101]Most times when I try to reply to you or slimballsang, my posts are blocked.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLQ2TIul8pI&t=241s[/URL]

See'est a vie..[/QUOTE]It might be because you aren't able to have an adult discussion without retreating to your junior-high name calling. Oh, and you meant "[B]cst la vie"[/B].

[QUOTE=Villainy;2717366]It might be because you aren't able to have an adult discussion without retreating to your junior-high name calling. Oh, and you meant "[B]cst la vie"[/B].[/QUOTE]Learn how to spell already dum ass!

I will try again if the auto wrong software won't change what I write.

Its spelled "c'est LE vie" not "cst la vie" you inbred cracker!!

[URL]https://frenchtogether.com/cest-la-vie/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2717485]Learn how to spell already dum ass!

I will try again if the auto wrong software won't change what I write.

Its spelled "c'est LE vie" not "cst la vie" you inbred cracker!!

[URL]https://frenchtogether.com/cest-la-vie/[/URL][/QUOTE]Look at your link little boy. [B]C'est LA vie[/B]. I made sure the auto-spell check didn't change mine this time.

[QUOTE=RadioDude;2716129]e useful information on good escort agencies and how to successfully navigate the airport to Medellin trip would be greatly appreciated.
[/QUOTE]Pay 90 k COP for a taxi from the airport to your hotel. Standard fare, worth the extra cost over the bus / shared taxi, especially after a long flight.

Best option for you would be probably be the casas. Check out the map for a bunch of them. You walk in and have a seat. A dozen or so women quickly parade through, say their name, and then disappear. After they've all shown, you say the name of who you want, pay the fee, then go do the deed on site. If you didn't see anyone you liked, you can pay the cover charge / viewing fee and leave. Another alternative is the many strip clubs where pretty much everyone you see can be had onsite (or you can pay the bar fine and go out).

Like anywhere else, quality and cost vary.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2717512]Look at your link little boy. [B]C'est LA vie[/B]. I made sure the auto-spell check didn't change mine this time.[/QUOTE]Irrespective of any spelling police, you're right, first thing he needs to do is get up out of momma's basement and take a trip. And come up with some pics other than the 2012 travel ones he ripped from a gringa blog to try and prove that he's been outside that basement. Busted time and again, trying to be a far right internet orcacle and even Putin rim jobber, all from the basement viewpoint. I guess when that's all you have spelling police is the only refuge, while needing help from momma with that as well. LOL.

Article about Tusi.

[URL]https://insightcrime.org/news/tusi-the-pink-drug-cocktail-that-tricked-latin-america/?fbclid=IwAR0SlWoaKgfBXmFcp63Lz_JGWdH9TNIuhrZPVySyZdkAhmXex8SJUNhQfsM[/URL]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2718026]Article about Tusi.

[URL]https://insightcrime.org/news/tusi-the-pink-drug-cocktail-that-tricked-latin-america/?fbclid=IwAR0SlWoaKgfBXmFcp63Lz_JGWdH9TNIuhrZPVySyZdkAhmXex8SJUNhQfsM[/URL][/QUOTE]Of course, not from personal experience but from what I have been told and the "word on the street", this article is pretty much spot-on. Used to be that 90% of the tussi made in MDE was exported to the rave German market, but I believe more and more of it is staying in this country. When I first heard of tussi in 2019, there was virtually none of it available in the USA. Apparently now there is a growing market there, I don't know. I have heard of at least ten different kinds of tussi and there is stuff out there that can kill you, but most of it is safe, non-addicting with little or no side effects.

Any of my posts here about tussi and recreational drugs have been purely fictional, and are for entertainment purposes only. I am simply doing research for a fictional book I am writing about Medellin. I do not condone the use of illicit drugs and would never buy, sell, transport or use any illegal substances in any countries of the world.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2718026]Article about Tusi.

[URL]https://insightcrime.org/news/tusi-the-pink-drug-cocktail-that-tricked-latin-america/?fbclid=IwAR0SlWoaKgfBXmFcp63Lz_JGWdH9TNIuhrZPVySyZdkAhmXex8SJUNhQfsM[/URL][/QUOTE]I wonder how long it will be before someone else introduces fentanyl and ISO into their "tusi".

You'd have to be out of your fucking mind to mess with that crap. And, the guy who's always talking about it does appear to be out of his mind.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2717821]Irrespective of any spelling police, you're right, first thing he needs to do is get up out of momma's basement and take a trip. And come up with some pics other than the 2012 travel ones he ripped from a gringa blog to try and prove that he's been outside that basement. Busted time and again, trying to be a far right internet orcacle and even Putin rim jobber, all from the basement viewpoint. I guess when that's all you have spelling police is the only refuge, while needing help from momma with that as well. LOL.[/QUOTE]Look what the scumbags dragged in, the Florida swamp creature, isn't your trailer a little warm down there in the land of deliverance, you must be using the library computer that most homeless use.

Be careful that your parole officer doesn't catch you watching child porn again we would hate to lose your priceless addition to this thread LOL.

Putin? Yes I love him so much I would even suck his cock with your mouth LOL.

And why arent you trolling conservative media website comment sections WOW what a fucking loser LOL.

And lastly, busted? I've never been busted for anything, I'm not a lying thieving ex con like your senior citizen scamming ass.

Ripped fotos LOL you can keep trying to repeat that it, won't make it true just because you have nothing better to say.

I said the gondolas had clear glass to see in, I googled parque arvi gondolas and used a couple pics, show me where I ever said.

They were my pics, oh you can't or you would, you're just a lonely pathetic swamp creature that's needs to be in prison.

So you can leave the internet to the adults.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2718055]Of course, not from personal experience but from what I have been told and the "word on the street", this article is pretty much spot-on. Used to be that 90% of the tussi made in MDE was exported to the rave German market, but I believe more and more of it is staying in this country. When I first heard of tussi in 2019, there was virtually none of it available in the USA. Apparently now there is a growing market there, I don't know. I have heard of at least ten different kinds of tussi and there is stuff out there that can kill you, but most of it is safe, non-addicting with little or no side effects.

Any of my posts here about tussi and recreational drugs have been purely fictional, and are for entertainment purposes only. I am simply doing research for a fictional book I am writing about Medellin. I do not condone the use of illicit drugs and would never buy, sell, transport or use any illegal substances in any countries of the world.[/QUOTE]You have no idea what is in it yet claim to be a physician and promote it at every turn. Let the audience note note.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2718195]Look what the scumbags dragged in, the Florida swamp creature, isn't your trailer a little warm down there in the land of deliverance, you must be using the library computer that most homeless use.

Be careful that your parole officer doesn't catch you watching child porn again we would hate to lose your priceless addition to this thread LOL.

Putin? Yes I love him so much I would even suck his cock with your mouth LOL.

And why arent you trolling conservative media website comment sections WOW what a fucking loser LOL.

And lastly, busted? I've never been busted for anything, I'm not a lying thieving ex con like your senior citizen scamming ass.

Ripped fotos LOL you can keep trying to repeat that it, won't make it true just because you have nothing better to say.

I said the gondolas had clear glass to see in, I googled parque arvi gondolas and used a couple pics, show me where I ever said.

They were my pics, oh you can't or you would, you're just a lonely pathetic swamp creature that's needs to be in prison.

So you can leave the internet to the adults.[/QUOTE]Again with the childish responses. You don't win arguments by calling other people names. That's what high-school students do. Oh wait! Of course. When do you graduate by the way?

Is your mom going to send you on a trip somewhere? Maybe to one of those exotic locations you have claimed to have visited. I seem to remember you claimed to have mongered in Thailand, Philippines, Colombia, Mexico and Germany. Did I miss any? Or were all those fantasy vacations? I think we can call you the 'Walter Mitty' of ISG.

Everyone here knows you're a punk kid with a dirty mouth. Grow up! Preferably somewhere else.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2718195]Look what the scumbags dragged in, the Florida swamp creature, isn't your trailer a little warm down there in the land of deliverance, you must be using the library computer that most homeless use.

Be careful that your parole officer doesn't catch you watching child porn again we would hate to lose your priceless addition to this thread LOL.

Putin? Yes I love him so much I would even suck his cock with your mouth LOL.

And why arent you trolling conservative media website comment sections WOW what a fucking loser LOL.

And lastly, busted? I've never been busted for anything, I'm not a lying thieving ex con like your senior citizen scamming ass.

Ripped fotos LOL you can keep trying to repeat that it, won't make it true just because you have nothing better to say.

I said the gondolas had clear glass to see in, I googled parque arvi gondolas and used a couple pics, show me where I ever said.

They were my pics, oh you can't or you would, you're just a lonely pathetic swamp creature that's needs to be in prison.

So you can leave the internet to the adults.[/QUOTE]You should do stand up comedy.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2718195]I said the gondolas had clear glass to see in, I googled parque arvi gondolas and used a couple pics, show me where I ever said.[/QUOTE]You sniveling little twerp. You claimed the beef in Colombia is loaded down with fat but it's grass fed and that's the furthest thing from the truth. We then asked for proof that you'd been there, such as a passport entry stamp but it was never forthcoming. You then posted travel photos but a search revealed them as from 2012 and and from a gringa blog. Keep wanking off in your moms basement as that's as close as you'll ever get to Colombia. LOL.

[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2718524]You should do stand up comedy.[/QUOTE]You should go give the twit a BJ if you and him aren't one and the same. Unoriginal namecalling and defensive rants would never get a booking at a comedy club.

[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2718524]You should do stand up comedy.[/QUOTE]Throwing my shit at these mental midgets like monkeys in the monkey house is way more fun for me.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2718237]Again with the childish responses. You don't win arguments by calling other people names. That's what high-school students do. Oh wait! Of course. When do you graduate by the way?

Is your mom going to send you on a trip somewhere? Maybe to one of those exotic locations you have claimed to have visited. I seem to remember you claimed to have mongered in Thailand, Philippines, Colombia, Mexico and Germany. Did I miss any? Or were all those fantasy vacations? I think we can call you the 'Walter Mitty' of ISG.

Everyone here knows you're a punk kid with a dirty mouth. Grow up! Preferably somewhere else.[/QUOTE]I'm 55 and I haven't heard that since the 1970's.

Don't leave out Russia and Canada LOL while neither is "exotic" Canada had some of the most gorgeous goddess' I've ever done.

Post script why don't you just go hang out with your fellow pederast more (boneknot) we all understand you are his ghislaine maxwell.

We would love to see both of you in the same colombian cell LMAO.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2718566]I'm 55 and I haven't heard that since the 1970's.

Don't leave out Russia and Canada LOL while neither is "exotic" Canada had some of the most gorgeous goddess' I've ever done.

Post script why don't you just go hang out with your fellow pederast more (boneknot) we all understand you are his ghislaine maxwell.

We would love to see both of you in the same colombian cell LMAO.[/QUOTE]You're a teenager, you haven't been anywhere outside your mother's basement and you don't have any friends. How sad are you?

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2718548]You sniveling little twerp. You claimed the beef in Colombia is loaded down with fat but it's grass fed and that's the furthest thing from the truth. We then asked for proof that you'd been there, such as a passport entry stamp but it was never forthcoming. You then posted travel photos but a search revealed them as from 2012 and and from a gringa blog. Keep wanking off in your moms basement as that's as close as you'll ever get to Colombia. LOL.[/QUOTE]Please tell us more about your bragging how you would go door to door conning senior citizens in military communities out of their money, you worthless POS.

You claimed the beef in Colombia is loaded down with fat? Really show me where I said this scumbag.

We then asked for proof that you'd been there, such as a passport entry stamp but it was never forthcoming. You then posted travel photos but a search revealed them as from 2012?

Really? Show us any of this from previous posts oh wait we know you can't you just make shit up you scumbag loser.

You have zero legit criticisms of anything I post so that leaves you to just make up nonsensical bullshit.

You belong in a cell with boneknot and his novia the villain, its dirtbags like you 3 that give mongers a bad name.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2718532](The low peso might have something to do with the change in administration. } Yes that is the main reason. People who control the rates are afraid of the new Pres being a communist. This was mentioned before the election that if this man wins the pesos would take a hit.

Funny first I used to divide by 2 then 3 then 4. Now maybe 5 will be the new division point in the near future.[/QUOTE]You just ran into a Dem lecturing you on currencies. In this case, there are global moves and local moves.

Viliany's concerns are not reflected by the upper classes my GF runs in. To a person, they are afraid. The day after Gustavo won she texted me and said, "I hope he respects private property."

The former president Uribe is very popular, and she told me the new president Gustavo met with Uribe, and they had a good talk, and that was supposedly reassuring to the higher classes in Colombia per her. Thing is I didn't see the COP go up at all after the meet.

Thing is when you compare the dollar to other currencies in the region you do not see this type of fall. The Brazilian real, Peruvian sol, Mexican peso have not moved at all while Colombia has plummeted. This is a country specific issue and I think it reflects that fear. People are selling Colombian assets and currency to get dollars.

Viliany's lecturing on the law is cute. The laws on the books are very often not enforced. Worse, I have seen Hugo Chavez and Morales of Bolivia cut through Constitutional laws like a knife through butter. Both changed laws such that they could be president for life. The issue to me is not what the law is but how people react when extreme changes are attempted. Are the people going to revolt if this guy is a Chavez want to be?

And I hope this guy Gustavo is not as anti-oil as Biden is. Gustavo campaigned on no more oil drilling. If he is serious about that, COP at 5,000 is a sure thing. Part of the Chavez-Morales hand book is to take over the energy companies and put your people in so there is not a funded opposition against you.

Chavez drove Venezuelan oil production into the ground, and in the five years before Morales took over natural gas production, Bolivia went from 2 billion cubic meters of nat gas to 10. After he took over, production barely moved, and in both countries, there is a ton of nat gas and oil.

Someone will have to explain to me how taking an axe to your most successful export makes sense.

Elvis always has his "expert" opinion on every conceivable topic. Of course, logical fallacies, lack of analytical skills, inability to research anything and politicizing everything are the hallmarks of his writings. Let's see if I'm right.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2718634]Viliany's concerns are not reflected by the upper classes my GF runs in. To a person, they are afraid. The day after Gustavo won she texted me and said, "I hope he respects private property."[/QUOTE]Your "GF" [B]according to you[/B] was someone you met on Seeking Arrangement who was selling her lady-parts to support herself and her child. I'm actually happy for you that you found love, and I'm sure she loves your wallet just as much. But now she runs in the upper classes? I nearly choked on my coffee when I read that line.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2718634][B]The former president Uribe is very popular[/B], and she told me the new president Gustavo met with Uribe, and they had a good talk, and that was supposedly reassuring to the higher classes in Colombia per her. Thing is I didn't see the COP go up at all after the meet.[/QUOTE]Alvaro Uribe was (not is) very popular. If you want to read about his career this article gives a brief synopsis. In Colombia today the word "corruption" is frequently heard and it is often used to "describe Uribismo". Today, Uribe is recognized for what he was and is. Just another corrupt politician.

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/alvaro-uribe/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2718634]Thing is when you compare the dollar to other currencies in the region you do not see this type of fall. The Brazilian real, Peruvian sol, Mexican peso [B]have not moved at all[/B] while Colombia has plummeted. This is a country specific issue and I think it reflects that fear. People are selling Colombian assets and currency to get dollars.[/QUOTE]If you look at the last 3 months (2nd quarter 2022) what do we see?

Brazil 13.8% drop vs dollar.

Colombia 19.9% drop.

Argentina 12.8% drop.

Chile 21.7% drop.

Japan 10.5% drop.

Euro 8.0% drop.

Britain 9.7% drop.

Peru 5.4% drop.

Mexico 3.5% drop.

I think the pattern is pretty clear. The higher interest rate on US Government securities (Fed raising rates) has made the dollar very strong against almost all of the world's currencies and in addition inflation is having a deleterious effect.

Colombia sends 31% of its exports to the US, while Brazil and Peru both send about 13% to the US. Which probably accounts for some of the lower currency decline.

It reflects something I've said before: There are too many factors affecting currency trading to point at one single thing.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2718634]Viliany's lecturing on the law is cute. The laws on the books are very often not enforced. Worse, [B]I have seen Hugo Chavez and Morales of Bolivia cut through Constitutional laws like a knife through butter.[/B] Both changed laws such that they could be president for life. The issue to me is not what the law is but how people react when extreme changes are attempted. Are the people going to revolt if this guy is a Chavez want to be?[/QUOTE]"Unimpressed, Uribe loyalists again tried to amend the constitution so the president could run for a third time, but this time the constitutional court stepped in and Uribe was forced to resign in 2010."

This is from the source referenced above. Colombia's Constitutional court blunted the "knife through butter" and Uribe was prevented from running for a third term. Apparently Elvis doesn't understand Colombia very well. It isn't the same as Venezuela or Bolivia (or Cuba for that matter). Here is a link for an explanation about Colombia's Constitutional Court, should Elvis want to learn the how this Court works. It probably does a more complete and accurate job than his "GF".

[URL]https://www.corteconstitucional.gov.co/english/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2718634]And I hope this guy Gustavo is not as anti-oil as Biden is. Gustavo campaigned on no more oil drilling. If he is serious about that, COP at 5,000 is a sure thing. Part of the Chavez-Morales hand book is to take over the energy companies and put your people in so there is not a funded opposition against you.

Chavez drove Venezuelan oil production into the ground, and in the five years before Morales took over natural gas production, Bolivia went from 2 billion cubic meters of nat gas to 10. After he took over, production barely moved, and in both countries, there is a ton of nat gas and oil.

Someone will have to explain to me how taking an axe to your most successful export makes sense.[/QUOTE]I'm not interested in expanding the argument into Venezuela. I would note for you, Elvis, that Chavez was far more popular in his country than Uribe ever was in Colombia. And Chavez died in 2013 and Venezuela's descent into a military supported dictatorship isn't even a remote possibility for Colombia. Bolivia is a very backward country and isn't even remotely comparable to Colombia.

I would note that Petro is a very bright, well-educated man. I'm sure he isn't looking to emulate the policies of failed states. His priorities seem to center around increasing the minimum wage and pensions to a livable level and modernizing the tax code so that the richest citizens pay their fair share.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2718842]Elvis always has his "expert" opinion on every conceivable topic. Of course, logical fallacies, lack of analytical skills, inability to research anything and politicizing everything are the hallmarks of his writings. Let's see if I'm right.

But now she runs in the upper classes? I nearly choked on my coffee when I read that line.[/QUOTE]You start with logical fallacies and the first thing you do is make a presumption about my GF and what circles she runs in. LOL. Why would anyone listen to you after that? That is a great logical analysis. She is a cheap slum ridden WG because that is what you want to believe. Sorry, fool, your notion of her is totally wrong.

And just so you know, trading is based on sentiment. Whose sentiment has been right so far? Hers or yours dumb ass? You are the one saying everything was going to be fine in Colombia with Gustavo, and the currency there has fallen off a cliff.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2718842]If you look at the last 3 months (2nd quarter 2022) what do we see?

Brazil 13.8% drop vs dollar.

Colombia 19.9% drop.[/QUOTE]Why 3 months? Colombia is at an all time low versus the dollar. Mexico, Peru, and Brazil are not. I grant you Chile is at an all time low but Chile is a much smaller economy than Mexico or Brazil.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2718842]Colombia sends 31% of its exports to the US, while Brazil and Peru both send about 13% to the US. Which probably accounts for some of the lower currency decline.[/QUOTE]That has nothing to do with anything.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2718842]It reflects something I've said before: There are too many factors affecting currency trading to point at one single thing.[/QUOTE]Wrong. At this point, all that matters is fear. You do not see currency moves like this based on fundamentals. Contrary to your stupid ass, I know when financial moves are rational and they are emotional. I did not share my "expertise" but what I knew of the feelings of Colombians.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2718842]I would note for you, Elvis, that Chavez was far more popular in his country than Uribe ever was in Colombia.[/QUOTE]And you think that is reassuring to anyone?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2718842]And Chavez died in 2013 and Venezuela's descent into a military supported dictatorship isn't even a remote possibility for Colombia.[/QUOTE]So Chavez was not a dictator? Again, you are not reassuring anyone of anything.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2718842]Bolivia is a very backward country and isn't even remotely comparable to Colombia.[/QUOTE]Again, that is not reassuring. Gustavo followed the Chavez, Morales playbook to get elected.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2718842]I'm sure he isn't looking to emulate the policies of failed states. His priorities seem to center around increasing the minimum wage and pensions to a livable level and modernizing the tax code so that the richest citizens pay their fair share.[/QUOTE]You think your being sure means anything to anyone? LOL.

What pol does not run on similar BS? Here is the thing that matters.

Is Gustavo going to fuck up Colombia's oil industry like he said he was going to or leave it alone?

Because if someone is selling Colombian assets and converting them into dollars because they know Gustavo is going to fuck up Colombia's #1 export, then this panic selling of COP is NOT fear driven but completely fucking rational.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2718556]You should go give the twit a BJ if you and him aren't one and the same. Unoriginal namecalling and defensive rants would never get a booking at a comedy club.[/QUOTE]I'm only into chicas but I don't judge others for their sexual preferences my friend.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2718942]...the first thing you do is make a presumption about my GF and what circles she runs in. LOL. Why would anyone listen to you after that? That is a great logical analysis. She is a cheap slum ridden WG because that is what you want to believe. Sorry, fool, your notion of her is totally wrong.[/QUOTE]Hey Elvis, you're the one who told all of us that you found your GF on Seeking Arrangement. What do those words mean? Seeking. [B]Arrangement[/B]. What type of arrangement was she seeking?

You swear she wasn't a cheap street-walker in El Centro. OK I'll take your word for this one thing (everything else you say requires verification) but the difference between a street-walker and an escort is really only [B]volume[/B].

I know, I know, you think you've found your own "pretty woman" but from what I hear you're no Richard Gere. More like Chris Farley.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHGmw7wFe5g[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2718942]And just so you know, trading is based on sentiment. Whose sentiment has been right so far? Hers or yours dumb ass? You are the one saying everything was going to be fine in Colombia with Gustavo, and the currency there has fallen off a cliff.[/QUOTE]Yes, Elvis. Trading is often based on sentiment. But sentiment about what? The strong dollar? Colombia's rate of inflation? Colombia's economy? Petro's presidency? Which of a dozen factors is the "sentiment" focused on. And does it change from day to day?

As to whose sentiment has been right so far? What are you talking about? I live here. As far as I'm concerned a strong dollar / weak peso is just lovely. I don't need the favorable exchange to enjoy a great life here. But it doesn't hurt either jajajaja.

I do think everything will be fine with Petro but that is neither here nor there. The discussion (try stay on topic Elvis) is about what is causing the peso to be so weak vs the dollar. My point is that there are a bunch of factors involved and only a simpleton thinks that it is all about Petro's election.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2718942]Why 3 months? Colombia is at an all time low versus the dollar. Mexico, Peru, and Brazil are not. I grant you Chile is at an all time low but Chile is a much smaller economy than Mexico or Brazil.[/QUOTE]You are so bad at analysis. Did you ever go to college? Ever take statistics or any kind of analytical courses?

Petro's election came this year. So how has the Colombian peso done this year? It has weakened by 13.5% YTD. That is less than the S&P 500 has declined YTD. Oh and BTW since I'm sure you don't really chose to look at things analytically.

Argentina's peso is at an all time low versus the dollar and has weakened by 24.2% YTD.

Chile's peso is at an all time low versus the dollar and has weakened by 20.7% YTD.

Japan's yen is at a 20 year low versus the dollar and has weakened by 18.7% YTD.

The Euro is at a 20 year low versus the dollar and has weakened by 12.6% YTD.

Yes Mexico, Peru and Brazil have not had the same depreciation in their currency. Yet. Which highlights my point. There are a lot of factors involved. It isn't just an election of which you don't approve.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2718942]Wrong. At this point, all that matters is fear. You do not see currency moves like this based on fundamentals. Contrary to your stupid ass,[B] I know when financial moves are rational and they are emotional. I did not share my "expertise" but what I knew of the feelings of Colombians.[/B][/QUOTE]Oh dear God. You are the world's foremost authority on everything. At least in your own narcissistic mind. I'm surprised you haven't told us how you forsaw all these currency declines and took futures positions.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2718942]Again, that is not reassuring. Gustavo followed the Chavez, Morales playbook to get elected.[/QUOTE]This is just Elvis ramble. Why don't you show your sources?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2718942]Is Gustavo going to fuck up Colombia's oil industry like he said he was going to or leave it alone?
Because if someone is selling Colombian assets and converting them into dollars because they know Gustavo is going to fuck up Colombia's #1 export, then this panic selling of COP is NOT fear driven but completely fucking rational.[/QUOTE]I know this will come as a shock. But currency trading doesn't mean someone is selling assets and converting them into dollars. Sure there may be some of that. But what drives this rate is traders are buying dollars and selling pesos. I would bet a fair amount of those traders haven't even been to Colombia. Like I've said before. There are a lot of factors involved. Just to illustrate.

Colombia's equivalent of the Federal Reserve (Banco de la Republica) has raised the Interest rate from 3. 0% to 7. 5% this year. That is much more than the US Federal Reserve has raised rates.

These moves are designed to tighten money supply and stifle inflation. (Colombia's year over year inflation rate is running at around 9. 5% the last few months) But what happens when you raise interest rates? You slow down the economy because it costs more to borrow funds for expansion, acquisitions etc. Our Federal Reserve does the same thing to try to stifle inflation but it often leads to an economic slowdown (for a while). Clearly an economic slowdown in Colombia would cause the peso to devalue vs the US Dollar.

[URL]https://countryeconomy.com/key-rates/colombia[/URL]

Ask your GF, I'm sure she could explain to you all the economic considerations that would factor into a weakening peso.

[QUOTE=ContinentalF;2718904]Oste knows he's living an unconventional life and isn't hiding it. Many others on here have a hard time being honest with themselves and it shows. Myself included, which is probably why I lurk and don't post.[/QUOTE]Or perhaps some of us are desperate attention seekers with HPD, whilst others don't need to post graphic stories for self-validation. Which is the truly honest position?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2719111]And I always use Listerine before and after any oral sex.[/QUOTE]I grew up in a very industrial city and downtown is where we would go to to get blowjobs from the black girls working the street in those days. That was early 70's BTW. Listerine was always in their purses. It must have worked for them then and for you now. I got to laugh though thinking about those days with the sisters and now you doing the same rinse. One thing you should be aware of is giardia. Not sure if the Listerine help for that.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2719193]Or perhaps some of us are desperate attention seekers with HPD, whilst others don't need to post graphic stories for self-validation. Which is the truly honest position?[/QUOTE]What the hell is HPD?

I wondered if it is a new STD or tusi variant.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2719211]What the hell is HPD?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2719199]I grew up in a very industrial city and downtown is where we would go to to get blowjobs from the black girls working the street in those days. That was early 70's BTW. Listerine was always in their purses. It must have worked for them then and for you now. I got to laugh though thinking about those days with the sisters and now you doing the same rinse. One thing you should be aware of is giardia. Not sure if the Listerine help for that.[/QUOTE]But a user here once posted a testimonial from a beauty queen who gave over ten-thousand blowjobs with never a single even slight problem from oral sexual disease, because she used Listerine. Very compelling. Also, don't brush your teeth immediately before or after oral sex, opens up the pores and crevices of your gums.

[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2718946]I'm only into chicas but I don't judge others for their sexual preferences my friend.[/QUOTE]Though you are at least a bootlicker, and surely challenged in the matter of IQ if you find those childish, unoriginal rants funny. No comedy clubs would give them a second look.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2719173]You are so bad at analysis. Did you ever go to college? Ever take statistics or any kind of analytical courses?[/QUOTE]Don't expect him to ever answer that question, but the answer is surely no. Higher education insists on vetted sources. He either leaps to conclusions with no sources or jumps on the latest wingnut blogosphere conspiracy theories. That's why he has to spend half his days arguing in a hooker forum. Trying to defend such horseshit, and with a total lack of debating skills requires a lot of time.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2719211]What the hell is HPD?[/QUOTE]Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is a mental health condition marked by unstable emotions, a distorted self-image and an overwhelming desire to be noticed. People with HPD often behave dramatically or inappropriately to get attention.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2719211]What the hell is HPD?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.healthline.com/health/histrionic-personality-disorder[/URL]

Histrionic Personality Disorder.

"psychological disorder. Dramatic, emotional, or erratic. Distorted mental image of themselves. Base their self-esteem on the approval of others. Resort to dramatic antics. Uncomfortable in situations in which they are not the center of attention. Interactions with others characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior. Rapidly shifting expression of emotions. Style of speech that is excessively impressionistic. Self-dramatization, theatricality. <*bold* considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are <*bold* ".

Just saying.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2719173]Hey Elvis, you're the one who told all of us that you found your GF on Seeking Arrangement. What do those words mean? Seeking. [B]Arrangement[/B]. What type of arrangement was she seeking?

You swear she wasn't a cheap street-walker in El Centro. OK I'll take your word for this one thing (everything else you say requires verification) but the difference between a street-walker and an escort is really only [B]volume[/B].

I know, I know, you think you've found your own "pretty woman" but from what I hear you're no Richard Gere. More like Chris Farley.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHGmw7wFe5g[/URL].[/QUOTE]I don't want to intrude, but there's one factor to consider.

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/16/eu-regulators-fine-five-banks-for-forex-rigging.html[/URL]

This isn't the first time.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/banks-forex-settlement/global-banks-admit-guilt-in-forex-probe-fined-nearly-6-billion-idINKBN0O50MG20150521[/URL]

Or the second time.

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forex_scandal[/URL]

The relatively few people who are either celebrating, or lamenting the Colombian election can no more move the market than a guy with a bucket can empty a lake. The forex market is a $5 trillion per day market.

Just for perspective, from June 2008 to May 2009 COP went from about 1700 to 2450. By October 2009 it was back near 1800. From February to June 2006 it went from about 2250 to 2550. More recently, it went from 3204 on January 10,2020 to 4118 on March 20,2020. The current trend isn't unprecedented.

It may continue, it may reset.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2719280]I don't want to intrude, but there's one factor to consider.

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/16/eu-regulators-fine-five-banks-for-forex-rigging.html[/URL]

This isn't the first time.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/banks-forex-settlement/global-banks-admit-guilt-in-forex-probe-fined-nearly-6-billion-idINKBN0O50MG20150521[/URL]

Or the second time.

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forex_scandal[/URL]

The relatively few people who are either celebrating, or lamenting the Colombian election can no more move the market than a guy with a bucket can empty a lake. The forex market is a $5 trillion per day market.

Just for perspective, from June 2008 to May 2009 COP went from about 1700 to 2450. By October 2009 it was back near 1800..[/QUOTE]You make some very good points. But I doubt Elvis is interested in reality. He saw a chance to foment an argument. I think if I said it was sunny outside he would bluster quoting his call-girl (friend) that it was actually raining and only a Dem would think it was sunny and anyone who agreed that it was sunny was stupid and a partisan hack.

Isn't that called DFR? Divorced from reality.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2719277][URL]https://www.healthline.com/health/histrionic-personality-disorder[/URL]

Histrionic Personality Disorder.

"psychological disorder. Dramatic, emotional, or erratic. Distorted mental image of themselves. Base their self-esteem on the approval of others. Resort to dramatic antics. Uncomfortable in situations in which they are not the center of attention. Interactions with others characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior. Rapidly shifting expression of emotions. Style of speech that is excessively impressionistic. Self-dramatization, theatricality..[/QUOTE]Please look at me. I am over here. Too damn funny and too damn true!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2719280]I don't want to intrude, but there's one factor to consider.[/QUOTE]Obviously JjBirdbrain has no self control if he does something he doesn't want to do.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2719240]I wondered if it is a new STD or tusi variant.[/QUOTE]Humping putas disease. Haha.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2719173]You swear she wasn't a cheap street-walker in El Centro. OK I'll take your word for this one thing (everything else you say requires verification) but the difference between a street-walker and an escort is really only volume.[/QUOTE]Well, you would know the centro slums and escort market better than I would. You tried to show me that you were my equal by putting up a bunch of the escorts you had been banging and then covered their faces so other guys would not recognize them. LOL. My woman is major league and you had worn out AA types at best.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2719173]I know, I know, you think you've found your own "pretty woman" but from what I hear you're no Richard Gere. More like Chris Farley.[/QUOTE]That is close, but I think my gal is a little prettier than Julia Roberts, and Chris Farley picking her up is more impressive than Richard Gere doing so.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2719173]Trading is often based on sentiment.

As to whose sentiment has been right so far? What are you talking about?[/QUOTE]Sentiment is emotions, fear and greed typically. My gal was afraid of Gustavo, and you are not. She was right, and you are wrong.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2719173]I live here.[/QUOTE]Yeah, and maybe you should talk to people who are not WGs. You might learn something.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2719173]You are so bad at analysis. Did you ever go to college? Ever take statistics or any kind of analytical courses?[/QUOTE]Uh, let's see. You are down 10% in your portfolio on the year, and I am up 40%. I did an analysis of S&P earnings and said they were coming down a month ago. Every day now, analysts are lowering projected earnings and downgrading stocks. And then there is this.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2718992]Looks like it's 4,388 for tomorrow.[/QUOTE]And COP closed at 4624 today. Maybe you should ask your college for a refund.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2718992]My point is that there are a bunch of factors involved and only a simpleton thinks that it is all about Petro's election. I know this will come as a shock. But currency trading doesn't mean someone is selling assets and converting them into dollars. Sure there may be some of that. But what drives this rate is traders are buying dollars and selling pesos. I would bet a fair amount of those traders haven't even been to Colombia. Like I've said before. There are a lot of factors involved.[/QUOTE]Before I get into the explanation of why you are wrong, I predict you will do the same as before, not admit you are wrong and slither away to come back another day with another shot.

You are right in that is the way currencies are set with USD-Euro and USD-Yen. The exchange rate is set mostly by traders, but when I went to Brazil, I looked to buy puts and they were so expensive and thinly traded they were not worth even buying. I assumed the COP was the same and verified the COP-USD market was not heavily traded. It was just set up in 2021, and I cannot find anything on futures prices or even one contract trading, but there was more to it than that.

Much of technical analysis is looking at charts and their patterns. I am not a big TA guy but there is going to be a different pattern when something like the USD-COP ratio goes higher and it has little to no futures contracts as compared to currencies where there are huge hedges. The pattern without hedges is like what we are seeing with the COP, a line straight to the sky. When there are futures involved, the spike up will be jagged as those who are short a currency have to buy the currency when they get out of their position.

So the real question is why did you make this up crap about traders? Is it you did not know? Maybe, but I think part of is that you are such a Democratic dumb shit douche that you did not want to believe your guy was such a fucking disaster before he stepped foot into office. So this is not USA interest rates are all the other bullshit, it is almost all people who hold real Colombian assets converting them into USD. THAT is what causes the COP to move lower.

Oh, and one last thing, I was wrong about when Q2 earnings come out. It is not July 21. Did you sell your positions and move into the things I told you to? Nah. You are too stupid to do that. All you are going to do is get stressed out from what I post and try to burn me on some stupid petty bullshit like this. Calling my woman a WG is not going to help your portfolio douche.

Ok, you can slither away again. Better luck next time.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2719280]I don't want to intrude, but there's one factor to consider.

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/16/eu-regulators-fine-five-banks-for-forex-rigging.html[/URL]

This isn't the first time.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/banks-forex-settlement/global-banks-admit-guilt-in-forex-probe-fined-nearly-6-billion-idINKBN0O50MG20150521[/URL]

Or the second time.

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forex_scandal[/URL]

The relatively few people who are either celebrating, or lamenting the Colombian election can no more move the market than a guy with a bucket can empty a lake. The forex market is a $5 trillion per day market.

Just for perspective, from June 2008 to May 2009 COP went from about 1700 to 2450. By October 2009 it was back near 1800. From February to June 2006 it went from about 2250 to 2550. More recently, it went from 3204 on January 10,2020 to 4118 on March 20,2020. The current trend isn't unprecedented.

It may continue, it may reset.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it could. Things is the COP is not traded much on Forex, and the party that can change the falling COP is the Colombian central bank.

If you look at Colombia and Peru, you can see the two management styles used with currencies. The Peruvian Central Bank keeps a tight control on the currency market and the Colombian Central bank keeps its hands off and lets the COP move freely. Which style is best is an endless argument between economists.

However, I do not think there is much debate that a central bank should step in when there are huge moves down in a currency like we have seen with the COP if they can. This exchange rate creates an even more horrific inflation rate for Colombia.

Point is this is a fire. The Central Bank has the hose and they are letting the fire burn. Why?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2719280]
The relatively few people who are either celebrating, or lamenting the Colombian election can no more move the market than a guy with a bucket can empty a lake. [/QUOTE]No direct offense to anyone in particular, but it is one of the easiest things in the world to assign reasons for movement of a market like this after the fact. Show me someone who can predict it accurately and consistently in the future, well, then you have yourself a multi-billionaire. There are too many moving parts for any one to know what is truly happening. Of as the saying goes, shit happens, jeje.

Any single reasonably intelligent person can make his analysis fit the situation with superficial plausibility, after the fact. There are as many different versions of that as there are analysts. Hate to break it to ya' gently but this is just another form of mental masturbation.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719380]You tried to show me that you were my equal by putting up a bunch of the escorts you had been banging and then covered their faces so other guys would not recognize them. LOL. My woman is major league and you had worn out AA types at best.[/QUOTE]So you say. But you never posted any pictures of her, have you? Why is that? OH maybe she isn't the 10 you claim and you're afraid to let people see her picture because everyone will laugh at your standard of beauty. But I believe there is a different reason you don't post a picture of her. You're terrified that someone on here will say, "I know her, I spent two nights with her in Cartagena two years ago. She was good in bed but too many stretch marks" or something of that ilk.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719380]Sentiment is emotions, fear and greed typically. My gal was afraid of Gustavo, and you are not. She was right, and you are wrong.[/QUOTE]I guess the question was a little too advanced for you. So let me restate it in really simple terms. Let's use fear and greed as synonyms for 'sentiment'.

Which sentiment (fear) is moving the Dollar / Peso market? Is it fear of Colombian inflation? Is it fear of an economic slowdown because the Colombian Central Bank has raised rates? Is it fear of what Petro might do despite constitutional protections? Is it fear the Peso will fall further so moving into US Dollar denominated government securities is safer?

Are you getting the concept? Currency markets are moved by a whole host of factors, very rarely only 1. You want it to be all about Petro's presidency because you wanted to argue. You can't change the way the world works because you want to foment a squabble.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719380]Uh, let's see. You are down 10% in your portfolio on the year, and I am up 40%. I did an analysis of S&P earnings and said they were coming down a month ago. Every day now, analysts are lowering projected earnings and downgrading stocks.[/QUOTE]You're claiming you are up 40% in your portfolio? So you put everything you had into a inverse ETF betting on a down market? You know that if you are wrong, or if something dramatic happens you are in a security (a speculative vessel) that could cost you most of your principal in just a few days? You're either lying (most likely) or you have so little money in your market account that losing it won't matter. Your play is kind of analogous to playing no-limit poker. You can go all-in on a hunch and you will probably gather in a few pots until the time you try it and run into the nuts. Then you're watching sports reruns on ESPN the rest of the day.

Fortunately I don't need to take those kinds of obtuse risks. I've invested my whole adult life and I have a very nice retirement. If social security disappears, I'm still extremely comfortable here or in any other country I might choose to live.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719380]And then there is this.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Villainy;2718992]Looks like it's 4,388 for tomorrow.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719380]And COP closed at 4624 today. Maybe you should ask your college for a refund.[/QUOTE]I guess you don't understand the difference between the current currency exchange transactions (XE mid-market rate) and the rate that is assigned by Visa a day later which is what you can get using your debit card in an ATM (cajero). The 4,624 rate which was the closing currency exchange transaction on Tuesday will be available at ATMs on Thursday.

So tell me where you went to College? Clearly you didn't take finance / banking or statistics courses. You also seem especially lacking in analytical skills. What was your field of study? Or did you even go to college?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719380]Before I get into the explanation of why you are wrong, I predict you will do the same as before, not admit you are wrong and slither away to come back another day with another shot.

You are right in that is the way currencies are set with USD-Euro and USD-Yen. The exchange rate is set mostly by traders, but when I went to Brazil, I looked to buy puts and they were so expensive and thinly traded they were not worth even buying. I assumed the COP was the same and verified the COP-USD market was not heavily traded. It was just set up in 2021, and I cannot find anything on futures prices or even one contract trading, but there was more to it than that.

Much of technical analysis is looking at charts and their patterns. I am not a big TA guy but there is going to be a different pattern when something like the USD-COP ratio goes higher and it has little to no futures contracts as compared to currencies where there are huge hedges. The pattern without hedges is like what we are seeing with the COP, a line straight to the sky. When there are futures involved, the spike up will be jagged as those who are short a currency have to buy the currency when they get out of their position..[/QUOTE]So your master point is that the Dollar / Col Peso market isn't sufficiently large that there isn't an active market in futures? I'm impressed. I think my puppy could have told me that.

The real question is why are you trying to diffuse the argument? You claimed that the Colombian Peso was going through an unparalleled devaluation because of Petro's election win. I confronted you the YTD statistics on several South American and other countries currencies as well. The big reveal was that a large number of currencies have suffered similar declines relative to the Dollar YTD. As usual when another of your bombastic blunders gets exposed as the absurdity that it is. You try to pivot to a different argument.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2719366]Obviously JjBirdbrain has no self control if he does something he doesn't want to do.[/QUOTE]That's your expert analysis? Still at it aren't you? Still trying to best me in a battle of wits and you've been shooting blanks for years.

Every day, everyone does things they don't want to do. You probably don't want to put on that adult diaper every day, but you do it anyway because you know what happens when you forget.

As always, you ignore the content and merely pounce on something your feeble, failing mind sees as a weak point and embarrass yourself (although not as badly as on "no diaper day."

If you think about it, although that requires a skill you've long neglected, doing something you don't want to do often illustrates self control, not the lack thereof. Most people don't want to work, they would rather do other things. According to your understanding anyone who chooses to get drunk instead of going to work is exercising self control.

Shall I go on? If so, put on a fresh diaper, because you're certain to shit yourself again.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2719562]So you say. But you never posted any pictures of her, have you? Why is that? OH maybe she isn't the 10 you claim and you're afraid to let people see her picture because everyone will laugh at your standard of beauty.[/QUOTE]You already have. You and your dumbshit Democratic douches called these two women average looking. I paid one $100 and Paulie said I overpaid and he could get her for half. I called the one who modeled all over the world my supermodel, and Mr. E chimed in I was being dishonest because words mean things, and she was not a supermodel. Oh and per him, if either one worked Centro, they would be getting 30 k like everyone else. Mr. E said that all women are in demand, and no one disputed it.

This is when I made fun of you all and made my 10 rules of the Medellin forum. Among the rules, there is no objective criteria for beauty and if you pay more than 30 k, you are overpaying. Nounce got mad at my rules. He actually made non-specific compliments about my women, but he was the only one in your crew who even ventured out a little bit and called these women anything more than average.

And after you jealous, pathetic dumb shit douches called these women average, I had like a dozen guys PM me for their numbers.

That is why I considered putting up a photo of someone else and calling her my gal just to see you douches call her average and unattractive.

And V, anyone who looks at your history can see probably half your posts are negative comments towards me. You are not capable of being objective with anything with me, and you are a liar. You want a lie? Here you go.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2719562]You're claiming you are up 40% in your portfolio?.[/QUOTE]This was posted April 28.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2719562[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2691148]I have put my money where my mouth is and bought inverse ETFs which have done well lately: SPXU, SDOW, and my favorite SQQQ. As the market falls, these funds go up in value.
[/QUOTE]The exact percent return on these funds as of today is 39.87%, and you admitted you are down by 10%. In these very short ten weeks, you are down 50% to me. It would take you five years just with average returns to catch up with me.

And besides accusing me of lying, you say this.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2719562]Your play is kind of analogous to playing no-limit poker. You know that if you are wrong, or if something dramatic happens you are in a security (a speculative vessel) that could cost you most of your principal in just a few days? You can go all-in on a hunch and you will probably gather in a few pots until the time you try it and run into the nuts.

Fortunately I don't need to take those kinds of obtuse risks. I've invested my whole adult life and I have a very nice retirement. If social security disappears, I'm still extremely comfortable here or in any other country I might choose to live.[/QUOTE]You are down 50%, do not understand why, but the kicker is I can lose everything, and you cannot. Why is that V? Why can't you lose everything? Didn't you see what happened in Sri Lanka?

There is a really simple way the USA gets to be Sri Lanka. Some dumbshit Dem douches like you and your crew looks at our power, water, and food supply being down 50% and says, "I went to college. My analysis is great. I know what I am doing. The numbers being down were just bad luck. It will turn around. ".

Dramafree asked why can't you guys learn from me. I know why. You dumbshit Democratic douches have swallowed the Kool Aid so badly that anyone right leaning is stupid and not worth listening to.

The reason these women are average looking is they are not on the arm of a Democrat.

And as far as having skill with investing, that is not possible either. It has to be luck. Anytime a Republican does anything well it is luck. It has to be because of how fucking stupid we all are.

So was it a mistake not selling all your stock and buying everything I did?

I already know the answer is no. You would rather be down 50% and have the illusion of thinking you are right than being up 50%, and that makes YOU a narcissist.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719723].. Nounce got mad at my rules. ..[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, I am not mad at you, not ever. I think you are generous too.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719723]I called the one who modeled all over the world my supermodel, and Mr. E chimed in I was being dishonest because words mean things, and she was not a supermodel.[/QUOTE]Did she fit this description? "Supermodels generally work for high-end brands and on the runway. Catalogue, parts, glamour and fitness models are not considered supermodels because they are not generally well-known or rich enough. Most supermodels were 'scouted' by a modelling agency; this means they were spotted by a modelling agency employer. " "Is a highly paid fashion model who usually has a worldwide reputation and often a background in haute couture and commercial modeling."

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719723]Oh and per him, if either one worked Centro, they would be getting 30 k like everyone else. Mr. E said that all women are in demand, and no one disputed it.[/QUOTE]Yeah chicks that work downtown pretty much get paid what chicks working downtown get paid. How is that to be disputed?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2719919]Just to clarify, I am not mad at you, not ever. I think you are generous too.[/QUOTE]Nounce doesn't do mad. He is the uncle that every member of the family loves.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2719934]Nounce doesn't do mad. He is the uncle that every member of the family loves.[/QUOTE]Do you ever get mad at someone that you never met on internet?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2719979]Do you ever get mad at someone that you never met on internet?[/QUOTE]Do you mean:
"Do you ever get mad at someone on the internet that you have never met?

If so, yes!! Here, Facebook, Whatsapp groups. Hell, it's the bane of social media, isn't it? People can just be arrogant AR $3 holes and think they can get away w it.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719723]You already have. You and your [B]dumbshit Democratic douches[/B] called these two women average looking.

This is when I made fun of you all and made my 10 rules of the Medellin forum. Among the rules, there is no objective criteria for beauty and if you pay more than 30 k, you are overpaying. Nounce got mad at my rules. He actually made non-specific compliments about my women, but he was the only one in your crew who even ventured out a little bit and called these women anything more than average.

And after you jealous, [B]pathetic dumb shit douches[/B] called these women average, I had like a dozen guys PM me for their numbers. That is why I considered putting up a photo of someone else and calling her my gal just to see you [B]douches[/B] call her average and unattractive.[/QUOTE]You should be paying me for lessons in civility and how to reason.

Lesson #1: You don't win points in an argument by calling the other person (or side) childish names. All it does is suggests that you are losing the argument and are frustrated. Intelligent adults learn to make their points and support them. Pulling your "facts" out of thin air or with "non substantial support" and then calling the other side names if they don't agree is so high-school.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719723]And V, anyone who looks at your history can see probably half your posts are negative comments towards me. You are not capable of being objective with anything with me, and [B]you are a liar.[/B] [/QUOTE]You started this bonfire. Remember? I told someone that the drop in the peso relative to the dollar is a culmination of [B]many[/B] things [B]NOT[/B] just a result of the recent election.

Naturally you wanted to start a fight about it but you've been unable to acquit yourself creditably (because you were wrong) and you've tried to pivot to everything else under the sun.

Understandable. But remember. You started this.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719723]You want a lie? Here you go. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Villainy;2719562]You're claiming you are up 40% in your portfolio? [/QUOTE]A lie?

Lesson #2: A question by definition can't be a lie. It may be deceptive, it may be inappropriate it may be a lot of things. But it can't be a lie.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719723][URL][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2719562[/URL].[/URL].

The exact percent return on these funds as of today is 39.87%, and you admitted you are down by 10%. In these very short ten weeks, you are down 50% to me. It would take you five years just with average returns to catch up with me.

And besides accusing me of lying, you say this.

You are down 50%, do not understand why, but the kicker is I can lose everything, and you cannot. Why is that V? Why can't you lose everything? [/QUOTE]Since I trust absolutely nothing you say. I ran the numbers: SQQQ is up 25.8% from 4-28 to today, SPXU is up 30.2% from 4-28 to today and SDOW is up 26.6% from 4-28 to today.

I'm sure your new story is that you bought them at exactly the lowest point a few weeks before and that is how you got to 40%.

Why would I have doubts??

1. If you are such a partisan (and we all know you are) then you would have bought them at the beginning of Biden's presidency. On inauguration day. But NO. You waited a year and 3 months to exactly the time when the market started falling. Not a chance you're Monday morning quarterbacking is there? Hmmm??

2. I don't know the size of your portfolio but for your entire portfolio to be up 40% you would have had to put [B]everything[/B] into those inverse ETFs. Those ETFs use options to create enormous leverage. Leverage cuts both ways. You can make big gains and you can lose big also. No one in their right mind would put everything they own into something that by definition is super risky. [B]Unless[/B] your "portfolio" is so small that big percentage losses wouldn't mean anything to you.

3. Posting something whereby you claim you made the purchases after the fact isn't exactly compelling evidence. Send me your brokerage statements for the last 3 months with your name and address and account number redacted and then I might actually believe you. But I have a feeling you [B]can't[/B] (not won't but can't).

This was Lesson #3 BTW. Saying something in a forum on the internet doesn't make it true. Show me or blow me.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719723]Didn't you see what happened in Sri Lanka?

There is a really simple way the USA gets to be Sri Lanka. Some dumbshit Dem douches like you and your crew looks at our power, water, and food supply being down 50% and says, "I went to college. My analysis is great. I know what I am doing. The numbers being down were just bad luck. It will turn around. ". [/QUOTE]Remember the theme of the discussion?? Petro's win in the election caused the peso to devalue against the dollar. Other causes weren't a factor. Wasn't that your argument?

Now Sri Lanka has relevance? BTW It was called Ceylon when I was a teenager collecting stamps. I didn't care about Ceylon then either.

That was Lesson #4: Don't introduce Sri Lanka into the middle of any argument. Guaranteed no one thinks that makes a compelling point.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719723]Dramafree asked why can't you guys learn from me. I know why. You dumbshit Democratic douches have swallowed the Kool Aid so badly that anyone right leaning is stupid and not worth listening to. [/QUOTE]How much were you drinking when you posted this response?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719723]And as far as having skill with investing, that is not possible either. It has to be luck. Anytime a Republican does anything well it is luck. It has to be because of how fucking stupid we all are.

So was it a mistake not selling all your stock and buying everything I did?

I already know the answer is no. You would rather be down 50% and have the illusion of thinking you are right than being up 50%, and that makes YOU a narcissist. [/QUOTE]NO Elvis, I don't think you understand anything about investing. First, even if your claim is true, that doesn't make you a good (much less great) investor. You took a speculative position (that is if you did it at all, which is still only supported by your word) and had some short-term gains. How long are you going to ride those gains? For a full year? Because if you close the position in less than a year, you will have short term capital gains which are treated as ordinary income which will take a big bite out of your "so called gains".

Second of all, investing doesn't mean you don't ever have losses. It means over time your portfolio grows consistently.

Third, you want to compare a 2 1/2 month result. Do you think you're a better investor than Warren Buffett? I bet your claimed 40% gain is a lot better than he did over the last 2 1/2 months.

But do you want to compare your record with his over the last 20 years? I will give you a break. I bet my 20 year record is a lot better than yours. But mine sure isn't as good as Buffett's.

That was Lesson #5. 2 1/2 month results are meaningless for comparative purposes. Investment performance is measured over years sometimes decades but not weeks.

Now, as to the pictures you posted. Are those your girl friend? Or someone you saw? I don't find her attractive at all. I think she's fu**ing stunning. Send her my way jajajajaja.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720049]...People can just be arrogant AR $3 holes and think they can get away w it.[/QUOTE]Then why are you mad? It isn't even about you.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720049]People can just be arrogant AR $3 holes and think they can get away w it.[/QUOTE]Then why don't you get your nose out of your laptop screen and go out and get a life? You are here all day, every day posting. It's a big world out there, so go get um tiger! Wink.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2720057]Then why are you mad? It isn't even about you.[/QUOTE]Bcos people who are rude to me and insult me, especially without merit, get under my skin. I treat people w respect (unless they are being AR $eholes), and I expect others to do the same to me.

Why do they get under my skin? Bcos I am me and you are you, and we have had this part of the discussion before. .

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2719924]Yeah chicks that work downtown pretty much get paid what chicks working downtown get paid. How is that to be disputed?[/QUOTE]It is not at all. I am sure you and Viliany think you fuck women from El Centro who are just as attractive as these two for less than $10 all the time.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2720065]Then why don't you get your nose out of your laptop screen and go out and get a life? You are here all day, every day posting. It's a big world out there, so go get um tiger! Wink.[/QUOTE]Tiger. [B]Tiger??[/B]. You think the TK in JustTK stands for tiger? I thought it stood for [B]TinKer Bell.[/B].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2720080]It is not at all. I am sure you and Viliany think you fuck women from El Centro who are just as attractive as these two for less than $10 all the time.[/QUOTE]Elvis,

I do not know why you waste your time on these losers. They spread there lies about MDE. Your girl and some of my girls these guys can only dream about them, plus they are too stupid or cheap to use SA.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2720115]Elvis,

I do not know why you waste your time on these losers. They spread there lies about MDE. Your girl and some of my girls these guys can only dream about them, plus they are too stupid or cheap to use SA.[/QUOTE]Amen to that brother. If I am going to pay a hooker then I am going to fuck her and pay her right after. I am not trying to keep any hookers on retainer for $500+ per month. I am too stupid and cheap for shit like perpetually paying someone's rent. Just going to keep doing the dumb thing and pay as I go.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2719267]Though you are at least a bootlicker, and surely challenged in the matter of IQ if you find those childish, unoriginal rants funny. No comedy clubs would give them a second look.[/QUOTE]You flirting with me Paulie?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720053]You should be paying me for lessons in civility and how to reason.

Lesson #1: You don't win points in an argument by calling the other person (or side) childish names. All it does is suggests that you are losing the argument and are frustrated. Intelligent adults learn to make their points and support them. Pulling your "facts" out of thin air or with "non substantial support" and then calling the other side names if they don't agree is so high-school.[/QUOTE]Oh really?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720053]Lesson #4: Don't introduce Sri Lanka into the middle of any argument. Guaranteed no one thinks that makes a compelling point.[/QUOTE]"No one thinks" Can you read everyone's mind? This is why I call you names. Who do you think you are to speak for everyone? You are not making a good point but are just imagining everyone agrees with you.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720053]No one in their right mind would put everything they own into something that by definition is super risky.[/QUOTE]Once again, you are speaking for everyone. And show me how going short when the fed is raising rates and the yield curve is inverted is risky.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720053]Since I trust absolutely nothing you say. I ran the numbers: SQQQ is up 25.8% from 4-28 to today, SPXU is up 30.2% from 4-28 to today and SDOW is up 26.6% from 4-28 to today.

I'm sure your new story is that you bought them at exactly the lowest point a few weeks before and that is how you got to 40%.[/QUOTE]Again, this warrants name calling. You insult someone's honesty, make a false accusation, and then when they prove your accusation is wrong, you make up another false one. That is a douche move.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720053]2 1/2 month results are meaningless for comparative purposes. Investment performance is measured over years sometimes decades but not weeks.[/QUOTE]Again, you are imagining you have this group who agrees with you. Who says they are meaningless? I could close my position and hold it for 5 years and STILL be ahead of you. What would that prove?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720053]But do you want to compare your record with his over the last 20 years? I bet my 20 year record is a lot better than yours. But mine sure isn't as good as Buffett's.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.barrons.com/articles/warren-buffett-berkshire-hathaway-performance-51651885365[/URL]

Over the past 20 years, Berkshire is just a percentage point ahead of the S&P 500, with a 10.3% annualized return against 9. 2% for the index.

You just admitted that someone is better off buying an index fund than listening to you. LOL. Congratulations, you just stabbed yourself in the dick.

On top of that, you do another Democratic douche move by blowing an expert without any regards to the expert's performance. How many times have you douches done that? "Fauci was not wrong about masks. He was lying for our benefit. " Yeesh.

And betting that my returns are worse than Buffett's and yours? Why? Because you want them to be?

Of course, my returns are better than Buffett. It is not that hard. I know bond funds now yielding more than 10%. Hell, I could sell now, hold cash, and probably beat him for 5 years too.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720053]Remember the theme of the discussion?? Petro's win in the election caused the peso to devalue against the dollar. Other causes weren't a factor.[/QUOTE]No, that is your theme of discussion. Mine is that currencies typically revert to a mean so if the currency is going down every day, that means there is emotional and likely irrational selling. I said my GF told me that people were afraid of Gustavo and guessed that is what is causing the panic selling. You wanted to give a 10 page dissertation on why currencies move when this was irrational selling.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720053]Now, as to the pictures you posted. I think she's fu**ing stunning. Send her my way jajajajaja.[/QUOTE]You made a concession. Miracles do happen. Look, V, I posted about seeking not to brag but hope others used it. Guys like Dramafree and Don Carlos who have used seeking rave about it. We have talked amongst ourselves and upped our game that much more.

Truth is one of those women was in Medellin when the travel ban was on and you could have had her before me. I guarantee you that DF and DC would have had jumped on her if they had the chance.

As to why I have argued with so much, did it ever occur to you that the reason I told people what I was buying was so others would make money?

Yeah, I did not think so.

If you want to know my investing history, how about asking about it as opposed to being a douche and lying about it? You might actually learn something.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2720115]Elvis,

I do not know why you waste your time on these losers. They spread there lies about MDE. Your girl and some of my girls these guys can only dream about them, plus they are too stupid or cheap to use SA.[/QUOTE]Care to elaborate on that? How is everyone who doesn't use SA too stupid or too stupid?

SA serves a relatively small segment of the P4P community, including many who fail to understand that they're engaging in P4P. For those who use it, they might think it's the greatest, and it is, for them, until they find something else which becomes the new greatest. For everyone else, at best, SA is no big deal.

I prefer finding women through online social sources. I prefer it for many reasons, including many success stories over the last 30 years. For me, SA is a waste of money. [B]For me[/B]. It's a waste of money because it adds no value. If I'm looking for a simple, casual encounter, Facebook has more options than I need, without a monthly subscription fee.

However, when I'm looking for something deeper, an actual connection, leading to a relationship, then SA restricts my search pool.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2720663]Care to elaborate on that? How is everyone who doesn't use SA too stupid or too stupid?

SA serves a relatively small segment of the P4P community, including many who fail to understand that they're engaging in P4P. For those who use it, they might think it's the greatest, and it is, for them, until they find something else which becomes the new greatest. For everyone else, at best, SA is no big deal.

I prefer finding women through online social sources. I prefer it for many reasons, including many success stories over the last 30 years. For me, SA is a waste of money. [B]For me[/B]. It's a waste of money because it adds no value. If I'm looking for a simple, casual encounter, Facebook has more options than I need, without a monthly subscription fee.

However, when I'm looking for something deeper, an actual connection, leading to a relationship, then SA restricts my search pool.[/QUOTE]M.

Great strategy, you are using your brains. I can not speak the other clowns, that are banging girls for $20-30 dollars and claiming they are super hot.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2712837]The claim that he "is learning" despite paying over an already inflated and inaccurate taxi fare....[/QUOTE]Remember they both landed after midnight.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2720640]... The taxis and the the uber wanted between 140 mil to 160 mil to take me to Medellin. I finally found a taxi of my liking and paid the dude 150 mil....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2720115]...some of my girls these guys can only dream about them....[/QUOTE]It seems to me that they can be bought cheaply by you already. Isn't cheap is one of the reasons you monger in Mexico?

You have found something better, why not just move on and be drama free?

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2720115]Elvis,

I do not know why you waste your time on these losers. They spread there lies about MDE. Your girl and some of my girls these guys can only dream about them, plus they are too stupid or cheap to use SA.[/QUOTE]Start your mutual admiration society with Elvis the Pelvis.

Maybe some day you will learn having to validate you choice of women against others is the height of insecurity. No one gives a fuck what your "dream girl" is like of not like.

Geez, get a grip, would ya? Better yet, grow up in Mexico somewhere. Jajajajajja.

There is nothing you can write that will give me the urge to respond, so by default you can have the last word if you wish. This felt good.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2720683]It seems to me that they can be bought cheaply by you already. Isn't cheap is one of the reasons you monger in Mexico?

You have found something better, why not just move on and be drama free?[/QUOTE]Drama Free claimed to have been to Medellin once and hated it, while none of his descriptions of the city and the P4P scene were accurate. He claims to have been to both Ukraine and Russia while pitching Russian war propaganda but has no reports from either country. He claimed he saw Ukraine's "tiny" army and declared they'd lose in less than a week. LOL Even his descriptions of Mexico City are inaccurate, so he's not an international monger but is here for the free all threads across several countries and to sell far right nonsense in the American politics blog in the opinions forums. Ignore him, or at least don't take him seriously. He also likely uses other handles.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2720485]
"No one thinks" Can you read everyone's mind? This is why I call you names. Who do you think you are to speak for everyone? You are not making a good point but are just imagining everyone agrees with you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720053]Don't introduce Sri Lanka into the middle of any argument. Guaranteed [B]no one thinks[/B] that makes a compelling point.[/QUOTE]This is the statement to which you are objecting. Other than a few immigrants from India and Sri Lanka and a handful of geography teachers / professors, I doubt 98% of the rest of the US population could find Sri Lanka on a map without using Google or Google Maps. You really think people are impressed with some obtuse argument that the US will degrade into Sri Lanka?

You really need to get a grip on reality.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2720485]Once again, you are speaking for everyone. And show me how going short when the fed is raising rates and the yield curve is inverted is risky.[/QUOTE]If it is such a clever move, why is it that very few hedge funds have duplicated that trade? Why have none of the pension funds copied your trade? Maybe, just maybe they are not kidding themselves about how risky 3 X inverse ETFs are.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2720485]Again, this warrants name calling. You insult someone's honesty, make a false accusation, and then when they prove your accusation is wrong, you make up another false one. That is a douche move.[/QUOTE]Did I call you a liar? No, Elvis. I said I don't believe you. I gave you the easiest way in the world to prove you did what you said. PM me for my email address and send me a copy of your investment account statements for April, May and June. Redact your name, address and account number. Safe and easy and unlike you I would happily acknowledge that you did what you said you did. But you didn't do that did you. I say you [B]CAN'T[/B] do it (not [B]won't[/B] but [B]can't[/B]) because you made it up. Prove me wrong.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2720485]Again, you are imagining you have this group who agrees with you. Who says they are meaningless? I could close my position and hold it for 5 years and STILL be ahead of you. What would that prove?

[URL]https://www.barrons.com/articles/warren-buffett-berkshire-hathaway-performance-51651885365[/URL]

Over the past 20 years, Berkshire is just a percentage point ahead of the S&P 500, with a 10.3% annualized return against 9. 2% for the index.

You just admitted that someone is better off buying an index fund than listening to you. LOL. Congratulations, you just stabbed yourself in the dick.

On top of that, you do another Democratic douche move by blowing an expert without any regards to the expert's performance. How many times have you douches done that? "Fauci was not wrong about masks. He was lying for our benefit. " Yeesh.[/QUOTE]Did you even read what you quoted? I don't think you can read. The article says:

"If you're undecided about whether Buffett deserves his reputation as one of history's greatest investors, consider this amazing statistic: Given the gains in Berkshire Hathaway Class A shares since he took over in 1965, the stock could drop 99% and still beat the S&P 500 index.

Barron's calculates that Berkshire Class A shares would have had to return 10.3% annually since 1965 for a price of $4,9681% of the stock's recent close at $496,800. That return compares with a 10.2% annualized return for the S&P 500 over the same period. ".

In short, Buffett has beat the S&P500 index by 100 times over his 56 years. That's right. Think about it. [B]if Berkshire lost 99% of it's value today, it still would be equal with the S&P 500 over the last 56 years.[/B].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2720485]And betting that my returns are worse than Buffett's and yours? Why? Because you want them to be?

Of course, my returns are better than Buffett. It is not that hard. I know bond funds now yielding more than 10%. Hell, I could sell now, hold cash, and probably beat him for 5 years too.[/QUOTE]Here let me see if I can help you see the light. Friday your SQQQ lost 5. 35%, SPXU lost 5. 48% and SDOW lost 6. 28% meanwhile my portfolio gained 1. 75%.

That means I beat you by 7. 35%. I tried to warn you how you should cash out and replicate my portfolio.

Do you see how silly that argument is? Well it is [B]exactly[/B] the same argument you have been making. Look at me! I'm up 40% in 10 weeks (maybe, but you still haven't shown your statements), I'm a better investor than Warren Buffett.

But why is it that all the major publications show fund performance at 1 yr 5 yr and 10 yr?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2720485]No, that is your theme of discussion. Mine is that currencies typically revert to a mean so if the currency is going down every day, that means there is emotional and likely irrational selling. I said my GF told me that people were afraid of Gustavo and guessed that is what is causing the panic selling. You wanted to give a 10 page dissertation on why currencies move when this was irrational selling.[/QUOTE]NO Elvis, my 10 page dissertation was this: There are too many factors involved in the currency markets to know what is causing certain movements. Petro's election was [B]a[/B] factor not [B]the[/B] factor.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2720485]You made a concession. Miracles do happen.
[/QUOTE]No Elvis, I just keep my objectivity. I have good reading skills and very good analytical skills. I see one skill you have too. Persistence. You will argue and argue, write and write and when things go badly you pivot to other arguments and make your posts longer and longer. I'm sure that when people stop responding you claim victory but all too often peope just get exasperated with never ending arguments that keep getting longer and less civil and never stay on point.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2720753]Drama Free claimed to have been to Medellin once and hated it, while none of his descriptions of the city and the P4P scene were accurate. He claims to have been to both Ukraine and Russia while pitching Russian war propaganda but has no reports from either country. He claimed he saw Ukraine's "tiny" army and declared they'd lose in less than a week. LOL Even his descriptions of Mexico City are inaccurate, so he's not an international monger but is here for the free all threads across several countries and to sell far right nonsense in the American politics blog in the opinions forums. Ignore him, or at least don't take him seriously. He also likely uses other handles.[/QUOTE]You are on drugs. I guess you will not be joining me in CDMX tomorrow. Yes, I was MDE for 91 days and hated it. Kiev was great in the beginning and declined dramatically. You would know this you have been there.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2720753]Drama Free claimed to have been to Medellin once and hated it, while none of his descriptions of the city and the P4P scene were accurate. He claims to have been to both Ukraine and Russia while pitching Russian war propaganda but has no reports from either country. He claimed he saw Ukraine's "tiny" army and declared they'd lose in less than a week. LOL Even his descriptions of Mexico City are inaccurate, so he's not an international monger but is here for the free all threads across several countries and to sell far right nonsense in the American politics blog in the opinions forums. Ignore him, or at least don't take him seriously. He also likely uses other handles.[/QUOTE]Certainly not the most improbable of situations.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2720698]Maybe some day you will learn having to validate you choice of women against others is the height of insecurity. No one gives a fuck what your "dream girl" is like of not like. [/QUOTE]His "dream girl" is the palm of his hand nestled in front of his mom's laptop down in her basement, as he's been caught time and again lying about the places he's supposedly been to. It's also possible that when he's addressing Elvis he's addressing himself.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2720817]His "dream girl" is the palm of his hand nestled in front of his mom's laptop down in her basement, as he's been caught time and again lying about the places he's supposedly been to. It's also possible that when he's addressing Elvis he's addressing himself.[/QUOTE]I think you have me confused with yourself. You are delusional and live in fantasy world. Boarding a plane to CDMX, but that is real world, something you know nothing about. You do the same thing with Elvis and call him a liar. Honestly I leave half my encounters out my reports, because of guys like you!

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2720814]Certainly not the most improbable of situations.[/QUOTE]Nope, there is a big difference. Elvis likes part of Colombia, I hate MDE and 90% of the fat ass Colombian girls I meet in Mexico claiming to be models and telling me how hot they are.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2720963]I leave half my encounters out my reports, because of guys like you![/QUOTE]Is there a way you could leave out the other half?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720790]
No Elvis, I just keep my objectivity. I have good reading skills and very good analytical skills. I see one skill you have too. Persistence. You will argue and argue, write and write and when things go badly you pivot to other arguments and make your posts longer and longer. I'm sure that when people stop responding you claim victory but all too often peope just get exasperated with never ending arguments that keep getting longer and less civil and never stay on point.[/QUOTE]No one will ever outlast a right wingnut, Russia propagandist, conspiracy theory peddler, etc. Their dedication is unmatched plus they have all the time in the world on their hands. You'd have to hang out here 20 years to have any hope at the last word, and even then it would be because they croaked.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2721106]No one will ever outlast a right wingnut, Russia propagandist, conspiracy theory peddler, etc. Their dedication is unmatched plus they have all the time in the world on their hands. You'd have to hang out here 20 years to have any hope at the last word, and even then it would be because they croaked.[/QUOTE]I am waiting for you in CDMX, but why stop lying now.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720790]

You really need to get a grip on reality.

Prove me wrong.

Did you even read what you quoted? I don't think you can read.[/QUOTE]Oh, I can read just fine douche. In fact, I read this.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720790]But do you want to compare your record with his over the last 20 years? I will give you a break. I bet my 20 year record is a lot better than yours. But mine sure isn't as good as Buffett's.[/QUOTE]Last 20 years right?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720790]Barron's calculates that Berkshire Class A shares would have had to return 10.3% annually since 1965.[/QUOTE]Why are you talking 1965 douche?

And how does this help you? Huh? You are so brain dead that you compared yourself to Buffett and did not know when his golden age was. That is what a Democratic douche does. You align yourself with the expert but do not know even know what the fuck the expert is saying. You need to get a grip on reality.

So you are an average investor. Buffett has been slightly above average, and I have been better than that. And? You attach great significance to this. You are trying to make this about past performance whereas I could give a fuck. Is there any guarantee that if I have been right all the time in the past I could not be wrong now?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720790]If it is such a clever move, why is it that very few hedge funds have duplicated that trade? Why have none of the pension funds copied your trade?[/QUOTE]And here you go aligning yourself with Buffett while you follow the crowd. You have no clue why he made money.

I care about the case for going short or long not the positions. You want to follow the crowd which is as anti-Buffett as it gets.

Contrarian investing is an investment style in which investors purposefully go against prevailing market trends by selling when others are buying and buying when most investors are selling. Berkshire Hathaway Chair and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Warren Buffett is a famous contrarian investor.

V, you do not have a cell in your body that is contrarian. So why are you comparing yourself to Buffett?

Buffett is the greatest investor of all time, but you have no fucking clue why he has been successful. None. If you had any brains at all, you would have compared yourself to Buffett's first 20 years.

And then you are talking about university classes when the most important thing about investing is emotional stability not knowledge.

Here is Peter Lynch:

What do you need to become a great investor?

Lynch: In the stock market, the most important organ is the stomach. It's not the brain. Most people do really well because they just hang in there.

And Reminisces:

It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It was always my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight! . Men who can both be right and sit tight are uncommon. I found it one of the hardest things to learn.

The most important thing you can do is an investor is to know when to stay the course and when to admit you are wrong and when to bail. It is not academic courses dummy. And you do that by always questioning whether you are right or wrong. It is easily said and very hard to do.

The first two years investing I got crushed V, but it was the best learning experience ever. I had to admit where I went wrong and why.

But not you. You are never wrong even when you are caught. You stabbed yourself in the dick and tried to lie your way out of it. Worse, you were lying about something irrelevant.

Let me be clear about that. IMO your ass kicking has just begun. We are only in the second or third inning. And I do not care about being right. I care about making money. If someone makes a case and I am wrong and truly was lucky, I will close out with a gain and live to fight another day.

Can you tell me why the market is higher now than in Feb 2020 before the pandemic? We have the war in Ukraine, gas at $5 a gallon, food shortages, power issues, and China in an even broader Covid lockdown. Why did the market go up since Feb 2020? And is that reason gone now? What does multiple contraction mean? What does QT mean? What is an inverted yield curve, and why is it important?

And one last thing, I will tell you when I move out of my positions. If the market goes up like you think and I am down, you can gloat all you want but you know what you have to do first douche? You have to grow up and be a man and admit you are getting your ass kicked. If you cannot do that, you coward, I will put you on ignore, and you can go to hell.

Make an objective case and acknowledge you are down to me douche, way down. Quit with the excuses and step up to the plate or shut the fuck up. The market decides the winner not the crowd douche.

So let's hear it. Do something you have not done at all so far. Impress me with your knowledge. And try to be original.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721174]Oh, I can read just fine douche.[/QUOTE]Nope. You can't read at all. Well maybe at a 3rd grade level.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721174]Why are you talking 1965 douche?[/QUOTE]I didn't talk about 1965 at all. I quoted from the article YOU used to make a point. Only you forgot to read the article. Which once again raises the question of whether you can analyze anything and whether you can read with comprehension. Seriously, if you want to quote a source, you would do well to read it first and then ask your hooker girlfriend to explain it to you.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721174]That is what a Democratic douche does. You align yourself with the expert but do not know even know what the fuck the expert is saying. You need to get a grip on reality.[/QUOTE]Yes, Elvis, I feel for you. Who would expect someone to actually look at the source you quoted and actually read it. Only a Democratic douche would read the source you quoted. Surely no one in your circle of friends would go to that extreme. Hahahaha. Or is it that no one in your circle of friends can read either?? Hmmm I always heard that you guys loathe academics.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721174][B]Contrarian investing[/B] is an [B]investment style[/B] in which [B]investors[/B] purposefully go against prevailing market trends by selling when others are buying and buying when most [B]investors[/B] are selling. Berkshire Hathaway Chair and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Warren Buffett is a famous contrarian investor.[/QUOTE]You keep using the word investing and investor but you don't know what that word means. What you describe is speculation and speculator. Contrarian investing is a thing. In short, contrarians try to buy stocks that are out of favor but have strong intact fundamentals. The expectation is that the market sentiment will turn and investors will start to recognize the strong fundamentals and the price will then rise. Or of course on the other side, contrarians may choose to short a stock that has risen due to enormous sentiment and inertia but the fundamentals are inadequate to support the price and frequently are deteriorating. The expectation is that the price will sink back to supportable levels.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721174]And then you are talking about university classes when the most important thing about investing is emotional stability not knowledge.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say you need to have taken university classes to know how to invest but it sure doesn't hurt. You would learn a few things like: How to read financial statements, how to calculate ratios and other fundamental markers, how to calculate a dividend discount model and on and on. If you seriously think you can successfully invest using your hunches without doing the analytical work you are seriously mistaken.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721174]The first two years investing I got crushed V, but it was the best learning experience ever. I had to admit where I went wrong and why.[/QUOTE]Oh, so you've been investing for two years? Got it.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721174]You stabbed yourself in the dick and tried to lie your way out of it. Worse, you were lying about something irrelevant.[/QUOTE]No, Elvis. I'm not so insecure that I have to make up trades to try and impress people. I don't have to lie either, I actually do my homework so that I don't have to try to pivot away from something I misquoted and call the other person a liar.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721174]Let me be clear about that. IMO your ass kicking has just begun. We are only in the second or third inning. And I do not care about being right. I care about making money. If someone makes a case and I am wrong and truly was lucky, I will close out with a gain and live to fight another day.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you used a baseball analogy. I wanted to use one too but didn't know if you were knowledgeable. So, if you make a speculative trade and it works well for a short period of time, that isn't an indicator of anything. For example, the Astros score 4 runs in the 3rd inning and the Red Sox answer with a -0-. That doesn't make the Astros better or the winner or anything. The game is scored at the end of 9 innings not on just the results from the 3rd inning.

OH and since you've had 3 or 4 chances to prove beyond all doubt that you actually made the speculative trade of which you are so proud and you have constantly gone crickets on proving it, I think it's time to say that now, I think you are a [B]liar[/B]. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, I questioned it, I doubted it, I didn't believe you. Now since you [B]can't[/B] back it up, I have to assume to lied about it. Why? I think you're insecure and need peoples' approval.

But of course, none of this is where we started. You wanted to argue about the causes of the peso's rapid decline against the dollar. You did it with superficial analysis (if you could call it that) and your escort girlfriend's opinion based on all the rich Colombians she runs around with. Now that your argument has fallen flat, you have tried as hard as you can to make it about your brilliant made up investment results and how you are the master of finding beautiful women. We know you didn't chase them, with all your flab you couldn't catch an energetic 3 year old.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2721350]

But of course, none of this is where we started. You wanted to argue about the causes of the peso's rapid decline against the dollar. You did it with superficial analysis (if you could call it that) and your escort girlfriend's opinion based on all the rich Colombians she runs around with. Now that your argument has fallen flat, you have tried as hard as you can to make it about your brilliant made up investment results and how you are the master of finding beautiful women. We know you didn't chase them, with all your flab you couldn't catch an energetic 3 year old.[/QUOTE]This is a great summation. The twerp once again got owned then dragged the discussion off topic while once again hurling over and over the antiquated slur, "douche. " It's all very predictable. And of course in the process called you a "Democrat" like that has anything to do with the price of rice in China. ROFL But at the end of the day his currency analysis was wrong, while he doesn't have a hot girlfriend in Colombia or anywhere else. He's an admitted fat piece of shit with internet access and a world of time on his hands. That's all we know as no one has ever seen him in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2720790]Did I call you a liar? No, Elvis. I said I don't believe you. I gave you the easiest way in the world to prove you did what you said. PM me for my email address and send me a copy of your investment account statements for April, May and June. Redact your name, address and account number. Safe and easy and unlike you I would happily acknowledge that you did what you said you did. But you didn't do that did you. I say you [B]CAN'T[/B] do it (not [B]won't[/B] but [B]can't[/B]) because you made it up. Prove me wrong.[/QUOTE]I've seen this offer while I've seen it consistently ignored. The proof would be easy to provide. JJBee62 has made similar offers to the twit in the past and they were also ignored, while he welched on a $1000 bet after his prediction that less than 80 K would die of Covid in the states failed. Bottom line is that when he gets embarrassed he starts pulling anecdotes out of his ass, and when proof is requested only rants and yells and changes the subject. LOL.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2721350]OH and since you've had 3 or 4 chances to prove beyond all doubt that you actually made the speculative trade of which you are so proud and you have constantly gone crickets on proving it, I think it's time to say that now, I think you are a [B]liar[/B]. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, I questioned it, I doubted it, I didn't believe you. Now since you [B]can't[/B] back it up, I have to assume to lied about it. Why? I think you're insecure and need peoples' approval.[/QUOTE]Yeah, and if the trade went down, would you have been blabbing on about proof? LOL. That is classic douche.

And another way of the Democratic douches of Medelllin: blabber on about how smart you, be proven wrong, insult again and again, and never own that you were wrong. You are down 50% and all you can do is mouth off about how smart you are and how dumb I am. THAT is narcissism.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2721350]No, Elvis. I'm not so insecure that I have to make up trades to try and impress people.[/QUOTE]I told you douche. I told of my trade to make guys money and that is the same thing I did with seeking. It was to show guys how to make money and get hot women. You are so insecure you cannot stand the thought of anyone doing better than you douche. If I do well, then I am insecure and trying to impress. If I do poorly, you say I do not know what I am doing. That is another way of the patronizing narcissistic dumb shit Democratic douche.

I gave you a chance to explain yourself, to explain your position, and it was nothing but more dick measuring. LOL. You do not know what the fuck you are doing with making money or with women. I have a better looking woman than you, having better sex than you, and making more money than you. You are the insecure one douche. How can a dumb Republican kick my ass so badly? He he.

And congratulations on warning people away from my expertise of getting hot women, staying away from Covid, and making money. Should people follow you into the gutter financially? That is where you get your women so you must be comfortable.

Oh and by all means let's get your fellow Democratic douches to vote you the winner even if your sorry ass is down 50%. Hey, Paulie, where are you? Are you going to say I have never been to Colombia again? He he. Poor V is going to need a friend after getting his ass handed to him. Maybe you can get back in good with the Medellin "expert" crowd.

You are on ignore forever. This was a complete waste of time.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2721405]The proof would be easy to provide.[/QUOTE]LOL. And do you have any proof of where I travelled or where Drama Free did? This is another Democratic douche tactic: ask for proof while providing none of your own.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2721405]JJBee62 has made similar offers to the twit in the past and they were also ignored, while he welched on a $1000 bet after his prediction that less than 80 K would die of Covid in the states failed.[/QUOTE]And you lie again. What a shock. Look at my posting history and show may where I agreed to that bet douche.

Thing about you dumb shit Dems is you repeat a lie and that qualifies as truth.

Funny thing is I did not even see your post before writing mine. It was predictable Paulie the douche is going to lie, make false accusations, and pile on. Did this work? Did the piling on get you a dinner date with anyone you loser or is it back to the slums and scopalamine for you?

Thing is no one ever responds to your posts in a positive way. I wonder why that is.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721434]Yeah, and if the trade went down, would you have been blabbing on about proof? LOL. That is classic douche.[/QUOTE]No, I'm sure I wouldn't have said a word, because you never would have mentioned it so nobody would have known. You made up the trade you brag about. If you actually made that trade you would have been posting your redacted statements on this thread and you would have happily sent them to [B]prove[/B] you did what you said. But you really [B]can't[/B] do that now can you.

I don't know what trailer park you live in. But most people who make a good financial move can't help but share their good fortune and would jump at the chance to [B]prove[/B] they actually made the trade when questioned or doubted. But [B]not[/B] Elvis.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721434]You are on ignore forever.[/QUOTE]Oh dear God. Whatever will I do. Please make it forever, this time.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721434]This was a complete waste of time.[/QUOTE]And that statement, Elvis, is the first thing you've said in a long, long time that is unquestionably accurate.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2721732]No, I'm sure I wouldn't have said a word, because you never would have mentioned it so nobody would have known. You made up the trade you brag about. If you actually made that trade you would have been posting your redacted statements on this thread and you would have happily sent them to [B]prove[/B] you did what you said. But you really [B]can't[/B] do that now can you.

I don't know what trailer park you live in. But most people who make a good financial move can't help but share their good fortune and would jump at the chance to [B]prove[/B] they actually made the trade when questioned or doubted. But [B]not[/B] Elvis.

Oh dear God. Whatever will I do. Please make it forever, this time.

And that statement, Elvis, is the first thing you've said in a long, long time that is unquestionably accurate.[/QUOTE]Is this the 4th or 5th time you've been placed on ignore "forever?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721606]LOL. And do you have any proof of where I travelled or where Drama Free did? This is another Democratic douche tactic: ask for proof while providing none of your own.

And you lie again. What a shock. Look at my posting history and show may where I agreed to that bet douche.

Thing about you dumb shit Dems is you repeat a lie and that qualifies as truth.

Funny thing is I did not even see your post before writing mine. It was predictable Paulie the douche is going to lie, make false accusations, and pile on. Did this work? Did the piling on get you a dinner date with anyone you loser or is it back to the slums and scopalamine for you?

Thing is no one ever responds to your posts in a positive way. I wonder why that is.[/QUOTE]Why would Pauline, XMan and there others followers stop lying and leave there fantasy world. Pauline was invited to CDMX, but that is real world, obviously he did show up. It is very easy to sit behind a computer a preach your crazy ass liberal views that are destroying lives. It is not the rich or the upper middle class that are hurting, it is the poor and middle class. Hopefully America is waking up and will vote these clowns out of office.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2721405]I've seen this offer while I've seen it consistently ignored. The proof would be easy to provide. JJBee62 has made similar offers to the twit in the past and they were also ignored, while he welched on a $1000 bet after his prediction that less than 80 K would die of Covid in the states failed. Bottom line is that when he gets embarrassed he starts pulling anecdotes out of his ass, and when proof is requested only rants and yells and changes the subject. LOL.[/QUOTE]Of course you're quite right. He is online posting interminably almost every day. It would take less than 5 minutes to copy a couple of statements, redact the name and address and post them or send them. But of course, we're all douches and liars for questioning his [B]honesty[/B]. Hahahaha.

I also get a kick out of how he makes all sorts of silly claims and posts a link to a source. The only problem is that the source all too often doesn't support his claim at all and even contradicts it many times. I still think he has problems reading.

He said he put me on forever ignore. I can only hope that this time he is telling the truth.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2721732]No, I'm sure I wouldn't have said a word, because you never would have mentioned it so nobody would have known. You made up the trade you brag about. If you actually made that trade you would have been posting your redacted statements on this thread and you would have happily sent them to [B]prove[/B] you did what you said. But you really [B]can't[/B] do that now can you.[/QUOTE]So true and nothing could be easier. Heck a simple screenshot should do as there's typically no personal information in the window when scrolling through transaction history, depending on where you have your account. That's about a 60 second project, grab the screenshot then upload to your email. But no, since he's caught in yet another lie he puts you on ignore, like that will erase the lie. LOL.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2721805]Of course you're quite right. He is online posting interminably almost every day. It would take less than 5 minutes to copy a couple of statements, redact the name and address and post them or send them. But of course, we're all douches and liars for questioning his [B]honesty[/B]. Hahahaha.

I also get a kick out of how he makes all sorts of silly claims and posts a link to a source. The only problem is that the source all too often doesn't support his claim at all and even contradicts it many times. I still think he has problems reading.

He said he put me on forever ignore. I can only hope that this time he is telling the truth.[/QUOTE]The bottom line is that bluster surely works well in his trailer park or at the bar down the street from it, but online he as a matter of course comes across people who want something more, like facts and proof. It's a different arena, and one where he often cannot shout his way out of the corners he paints himself into. See'est La Vie.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2721751]Is this the 4th or 5th time you've been placed on ignore "forever?[/QUOTE]Jajajajaja At least a few times, I just keep hoping that this will be the one!

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2721784]Why would Pauline, XMan and there others followers stop lying and leave there fantasy world.[/QUOTE]My point was to see if this was going to be a honest discussion or a dick measuring contest, and it was the latter. Thing is Viliany cut his dick in two when he showed his returns were at best average. He tried to worm his way out of it with insults, but the damage was done. By HIS criteria, he lost the argument.

I could care less about his record, and I do not want people to care about mine, but I will say this just to instill fear in V. After two years of hard knocks, I crushed it. The best pick I made went up 2500%. I went to this huge investing contest where people paid big $ to listen to these gurus. When I asked about a 2500% return, I found only one guy there who had ever done it, so I was completely underwhelmed by the "experts". FWIW, the year I made all that money was the worst of my life, but that is a discussion for another day.

So how do you know if someone is good? They make an observation, bet on it, and you see if it comes true. Sometimes the observation comes true in weeks and other times it is years. That you have to wait years is nonsense. Your track record has little to do with if you are right this time. A good investor is always wanting to see if he is wrong. A novice like V always thinks he is right.

After crushing it, people wanted my advice and it was frustrating because they would not do exactly what I told them. I want people to invest because of the why not the who. The people who know the why can adjust whereas others cannot. I always invest when the odds are in my favor but if the odds are 90-10 in my favor, I can still lose, and the odds change every day. You have to recalculate all the time.

What is patently obvious is EihTooms and Viliany brag about their results but neither has any rationale behind what they do. V is in real estate because it is an inflation hedge based on history. If you know how things are going now though, it is a terrible move. A douche like V will look at price action versus real facts. Mortgage applications hit a 22 year low today, but V is so dense, he thinks that does not affect him.

And the reason things are different is Covid. In the end, these dumb shit douches never say they are wrong and of all the things they were wrong about, the worst is you could print trillions of dollars and not expect any issues. We are going to be paying that bill, and it is huge, over the next two years.

You know when Osteoknot accused you / me of being insecure, he was really admitting that he is insecure. His #1 true love, catgirl, and he have this incredible relationship except now he admitted she is banging someone else. Yeesh. At one time, he cut her off money wise. I told him that was wrong. If a woman cuts off sex or a guy cuts off money, that is Bush league. He mouthed off and said he knew what he was doing and a short time later, she dumped him and he cried like a baby. The guy is intelligent but has no common sense. You are not going to get the best out of a woman unless you commit to her and if you cannot commit, then she is not that fucking great. But you and I already know that. That said, it is REALLY hard finding a good woman and a guy should play the field until he finds one.

So V can say what he wants but he is scared shitless right now. He will console himself with the support of his fellow douches but just like with Osteo, these douches tear into us when they are scared. Whether it is women or the market, these douches do not know what they are doing.

BTW, with your crew and skill set, I would look at trying to flip houses in the future. The amount of houses that are going to be abandoned in the near two years may be worse than 2008. You should be able to buy houses out of bankruptcy for pennies on the dollar, fix them up, and just kill it on resale. The amount of money going to home repairs IMO will be down a lot in the near future.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2721895]The bottom line is that bluster surely works well in his trailer park or at the bar down the street from it, but online he as a matter of course comes across people who want something more, like facts and proof. It's a different arena, and one where he often cannot shout his way out of the corners he paints himself into. See'est La Vie.[/QUOTE]The latest Elvis work-around. Pretend he is responding to someone else. But let's really look at what the Elvis impersonator had to say.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722158][B]My point was to see if this was going to be a honest discussion [/B]or a dick measuring contest, and it was the latter. Thing is Viliany cut his dick in two when he showed his returns were at best average. He tried to worm his way out of it with insults, but the damage was done. By HIS criteria, he lost the argument.

I could care less about his record, and I do not want people to care about mine, but I will say this just to instill fear in V. After two years of hard knocks, I crushed it. [B]The best pick I made went up 2500%.[/B] I went to this huge investing contest where people paid big $ to listen to these gurus. When I asked about a 2500% return, I found only one guy there who had ever done it, so I was completely underwhelmed by the "experts".[/QUOTE]The [B]honest[/B] discussion started when Elvis disagreed with my response to another poster that the peso's drop vis-a-vis the dollar was not [B]solely[/B] a result of Petro's victory in the presidential election. I never traded currencies but I've been around those that do and there are a wide variety of factors that play into how currencies value out against the dollar. Sure a presidential election would be one factor [B]but[/B] only one of many. Elvis went on a rant about how his hooker girlfriend and all the rich Colombians she ran around with were selling everything and moving somewhere. Of course this was all BS. I guess this argument went badly for the corpulent one.

Next thing you know, it's about his amazing investing prowess. His ability to find supermodels who are giving up their European businessmen and Middle-Eastern princes to be with a sloth of a man with a big mouth and a small mind. OK, I'll waste time with you, I'm retired, bring it on.

He bragged about some brilliant investment he claims he made (after the fact). When confronted that it was a foolish speculation and not true anyway. Did he prove his trade by copying a few pages from his investment account? No, of course not, it was all fantasy anyway, he couldn't prove a thing.

But tonight he has a new trade, it went up 2500%. We all know Elvis is analytically impaired. I doubt that he could correctly calculate that percentage gain. But tell me. Who believes him?

You could get there if you bought Amazon at its low point in 2001 and sold at its high point last year. But there is another explanation. Elvis is insecure. He has said he didn't attend college. I think he wants people to think he is smart but it's difficult. He keeps getting into arguments with people who are. Oh I know. 2500% smarter than he is and when he can't win the argument, he resorts to the time tested 3rd grader's method of calling their adversary a douche, or a Democrat (my God, that one really stings) hahahaha.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722158]So how do you know if someone is good? They make an observation, bet on it, and you see if it comes true. Sometimes the observation comes true in weeks and other times it is years. That you have to wait years is nonsense. Your track record has little to do with if you are right this time. A good investor is always wanting to see if he is wrong. A novice like V always thinks he is right.[/QUOTE]Let's see. You're a brilliant investor is that it? You can't read a financial statement, hell, you can't read your own posted sources. You can't seem to calculate anything correctly, and instead of studying the market you're on this site posting garbage day-in and day-out. Clearly you have found a new formula for success. Hard work and fundamental analysis have no chance against Elvis and his hunches.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722158][B]After crushing it, people wanted my advice[/B] and it was frustrating because they would not do exactly what I told them. I want people to invest because of the why not the who. The people who know the why can adjust whereas others cannot. I always invest when the odds are in my favor but if the odds are 90-10 in my favor, I can still lose, and the odds change every day. You have to recalculate all the time.[/QUOTE]People wanted your advice? Oh dear God, you are delusional.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722158]What is patently obvious is EihTooms and Viliany brag about their results but neither has any rationale behind what they do. [B]V is in real estate[/B]because it is an inflation hedge based on history. If you know how things are going now though, it is a terrible move. A douche like V will look at price action versus real facts. Mortgage applications hit a 22 year low today, but V is so dense, he thinks that does not affect him.[/QUOTE]Actually, I own -0- real estate. I do own some stocks that are classified as REITs. They are well managed, didn't lose tenants during the CoVid period and continued to pay their dividends throughout that tempestuous time. The ones I own have CPI adjustments annually to keep pace with inflation. These types of investments are well suited to someone who is retired. They don't go up 2500% but they don't go down much if at all even during recessionary times. But thanks for the information on mortgage applications hitting a 22 year low. Maybe I can use that and 6 mil to pay for my cappuccino tomorrow morning.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722158]And the reason things are different is Covid. In the end, [B]these dumb shit douches never say they are wrong[/B] and of all the things they were wrong about, the worst is you could print trillions of dollars and not expect any issues. We are going to be paying that bill, and it is huge, over the next two years.[/QUOTE]You mean like the chubby clown who said that CoVid deaths in the US would never climb over 80,000? Who was that chubby clown? Ahh an Elvis impersonator. It simply couldn't be our Elvis, the world renown expert in everything. (that is satire, Elvis, just in case you weren't picking up on it).

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722158]You know when Osteoknot accused you / me of being insecure, he was really admitting that he is insecure. His #1 true love, catgirl, and he have this incredible relationship except now he admitted she is banging someone else. Yeesh. At one time, he cut her off money wise. I told him that was wrong. If a woman cuts off sex or a guy cuts off money, that is Bush league. He mouthed off and said he knew what he was doing and a short time later, she dumped him and he cried like a baby. The guy is intelligent but has no common sense. You are not going to get the best out of a woman unless you commit to her and if you cannot commit, then she is not that fucking great. But you and I already know that. That said, it is REALLY hard finding a good woman and a guy should play the field until he finds one.[/QUOTE]OH and now you're starting a new ISG forum. Let's call it: [B]Dear Elvis[/B] - relationship advice from a man in love with his hooker. That should be a big hit.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722158]BTW, with your crew and skill set, [B]I would look at trying to flip houses in the future[/B]. The amount of houses that are going to be abandoned in the near two years may be worse than 2008. You should be able to buy houses out of bankruptcy for pennies on the dollar, fix them up, and just kill it on resale.[/QUOTE]And I would suggest that with your skill set you look at trying to flip burgers in the future.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722158][B]The amount of money going to home repairs IMO will be down a lot in the near future.[/B][/QUOTE]Wait a minute! If there are going to be a lot of houses abandoned in the near two years like in 2008 (I think that is poppycock BTW) and people are going to buy them in bankruptcy in order to flip them. Wouldn't they be spending a lot of money on home repairs to fix them up prior to flipping?

Why would the banks allow the properties to sell for "pennies on the dollar" if they have a sizeable equity stake in the property? Properties with mortgages or deeds of trust don't often go through bankruptcy they go through foreclosure and the bank or lender acquires them. Unless someone bids more than their perceived equity state at the foreclosure sale.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. You don't know anything about real-estate or how foreclosures are handled.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2722260]

He bragged about some brilliant investment he claims he made (after the fact). When confronted that it was a foolish speculation and not true anyway. Did he prove his trade by copying a few pages from his investment account? No, of course not, it was all fantasy anyway, he couldn't prove a thing.[/QUOTE]No proof of any brilliant trade earlier this year, zilch, cero, nothing but bluster and posturing. And this while proof would be so easy to provide by way of a redacted account statement or a simple transaction history screenshot, uploaded to your email or posted here.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2722260]
Let's see. You're a brilliant investor is that it? You can't read a financial statement, hell, you can't read your own posted sources. You can't seem to calculate anything correctly, and instead of studying the market you're on this site posting garbage day-in and day-out.[/QUOTE]He's available all day every day to post, whether it be here or in the Stupid Shit threads of European countries he's never been to or the American Politics thread in the Opinions forum. He's on his fat ass in trailer and at everyone's service and ready to post. That's as opposed to making successful trades or sweeping hookers off their feet.

He's as real as his sidekick or sock puppet Drama Queen who insists he lived and mongered in Ukraine for years but has no reports from there. He also claimed he saw with his own eyes the "tiny" Ukrainian army and announced they would be decimated inside of a week while insisting that the international media had a conspiracy going to lie about their prowess. LOL Never let a good conspiracy theory go to waste, and proof is of course optional.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2722568]No proof of any brilliant trade earlier this year, zilch, cero, nothing but bluster and posturing. And this while proof would be so easy to provide by way of a redacted account statement or a simple transaction history screenshot, uploaded to your email or posted here.

He's available all day every day to post, whether it be here or in the Stupid Shit threads of European countries he's never been to or the American Politics thread in the Opinions forum. He's on his fat ass in trailer and at everyone's service and ready to post. That's as opposed to making successful trades or sweeping hookers off their feet.

He's as real as his sidekick or sock puppet Drama Queen who insists he lived and mongered in Ukraine for years but has no reports from there. He also claimed he saw with his own eyes the "tiny" Ukrainian army and announced they would be decimated inside of a week while insisting that the international media had a conspiracy going to lie about their prowess. LOL Never let a good conspiracy theory go to waste, and proof is of course optional.[/QUOTE]Pauline all you do is make crap up. When I was living in Ukraine they did have a small army. You are delusional if you think Ukraine army is calling the shots, it is United States and help from the Euros. Ukraine and the Russian are the ones dying. Funny myself abd Elvis want the war to end and you want it to keep going.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2722568]No proof of any brilliant trade earlier this year, zilch, cero, nothing but bluster and posturing. And this while proof would be so easy to provide by way of a redacted account statement or a simple transaction history screenshot, uploaded to your email or posted here.

He's available all day every day to post, whether it be here or in the Stupid Shit threads of European countries he's never been to or the American Politics thread in the Opinions forum. He's on his fat ass in trailer and at everyone's service and ready to post. That's as opposed to making successful trades or sweeping hookers off their feet.

He's as real as his sidekick or sock puppet Drama Queen who insists he lived and mongered in Ukraine for years but has no reports from there. He also claimed he saw with his own eyes the "tiny" Ukrainian army and announced they would be decimated inside of a week while insisting that the international media had a conspiracy going to lie about their prowess. LOL Never let a good conspiracy theory go to waste, and proof is of course optional.[/QUOTE]I will be back in CDMX m, Saturday night. Join me, wait this real work, not this fantasy world you live in.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2722568]He's on his fat ass in trailer and at everyone's service and ready to post. That's as opposed to making successful trades or sweeping hookers off their feet.[/QUOTE]I am sure that is how you would like it to be.

Truth is I posted about seeking and you and all the other Democratic douches ignored and were content with your disgusting centro pigs. Instead of joining seeking and hooking up with the best Colombia had to offer, you kept seeing the low life's who scope you. How many times have you winners been drugged or attempted to be drugged? And why the fuck would you keep seeing those women and going back to those places?

Hell, you could have made a killing when I posted what I did back in April about my trade. Did you? Of course not. And why not? Because you are a moron. There is a saying in investing that you do not fight the Fed, and the federal reserve is taking money out of the system which means the market is headed down. It is not that hard.

So you can hate on me all you want, but the truth is you and your crew are fools for not following my lead. You would rather sit around and make stupid ass comments like "Show us proof" than make money and be with hot women.

That is enough for now. My make believe GF just made me breakfast after fucking the shit out of me this morning.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723267]I am sure that is how you would like it to be.

Truth is I posted about seeking and you and all the other Democratic douches ignored and were content with your disgusting centro pigs. Instead of joining seeking and hooking up with the best Colombia had to offer, you kept seeing the low life's who scope you. How many times have you winners been drugged or attempted to be drugged? And why the fuck would you keep seeing those women and going back to those places?

Hell, you could have made a killing when I posted what I did back in April about my trade. Did you? Of course not. And why not? Because you are a moron. There is a saying in investing that you do not fight the Fed, and the federal reserve is taking money out of the system which means the market is headed down. It is not that hard.

So you can hate on me all you want, but the truth is you and your crew are fools for not following my lead. You would rather sit around and make stupid ass comments like "Show us proof" than make money and be with hot women.

That is enough for now. My make believe GF just made me breakfast after fucking the shit out of me this morning.[/QUOTE]You would think, these guys would learn, but they are too busy complaining and hating life. I am glad you made money, on your trade. Your trade was based on common sense, not rocket science, no offense, but great job. If anybody has any common sense they would have done the same. Just like joining SA, but these guys are too cheap and bitter to try something new.

By the way Pauline and Xmsn are no shows in CDMX again, what s shock.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723267]
Hell, you could have made a killing when I posted what I did back in April about my trade. Did you? Of course not. And why not? Because you are a moron. There is a saying in investing that you do not fight the Fed, and the federal reserve is taking money out of the system which means the market is headed down. It is not that hard.

So you can hate on me all you want, but the truth is you and your crew are fools for not following my lead. You would rather sit around and make stupid ass comments like "Show us proof" than make money and be with hot women.
[/QUOTE]Well today is the last day in July (for the stock market at least). It's time to take stock on the world's most knowledgeable investor (hahahaha). So Elvis who was never able to demonstrate that he actually made the speculative plays that he claims. Raved on and on about how well he did in a few weeks. He was up 40% (which was also BS). He chided people for not being smart enough to follow his lead. Afterall he knows all about economic trends, he knows how the market will react to Fed interest rate increases which are designed to slow the economy and push back inflation. But the Market didn't respect Elvis. The Market said "those are the right steps" and has been on a tear for the last month and a half.

I must say I'm shocked, that's right just [B]shocked[/B] that the market ignored the advice of someone with all the graduate degrees and expertise that Elvis has. [B].Oh Wait!![/B]. That's right, Elvis doesn't have any graduate degrees or advance training. Elvis didn't even make it to college. But of course, he was far more knowledgeable than all the other experts who [B]HAVE[/B] been to graduate school and have decades of experience.

Remember the phrase. [B]even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every once in a while[/B]. But wait!! Let's take a real look!!

SQQQ.

43.35.

39.83.

(8. 1)%.

SPXU.

15.41.

15.31.

(0. 6)%.

SDOW.

29.67.

30.18.

1. 7%.

To make things clear: SQQQ, SPXU & SDOW are the stock symbols of the inverse ETFs that Elvis [B]claims[/B] he invested in.

The second line is the ending fund price on 4/28/2022 which is when Elvis posted that he made this trade.

The third line is the closing fund price today on 7/29/2022.

The fourth line is the percentage gain or loss.

If you take the average performance for the three funds you would be (2. 33)%.

Now you may remember Elvis bragging about being up 40%, that was just fiction. He was never up that much (even if he really did make the trade which by now everyone knows was also a fiction).

He scoffed at my being invested in REITs (Real Estate Investement Trusts) and high-quality dividend stocks and some high quality growth stocks. At the time I was down between 5 and 10%.

BUT July was a good month. I got a whole batch of dividends and those REITs have done nothing but go up. So today, I'm up about 6. 5% over the same time frame. Unlike Elvis, I'll personally meet with anyone and show them my investment accounts and my calculations.

So just remember, when someone tells you how they are such an expert but have no training, no education and only a fictitious bunch of results, which they cannot backup. Just laugh because that person is an Elvis impersonator or maybe even the Elvis here on ISG.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2725619]Well today is the last day in July (for the stock market at least). It's time to take stock on the world's most knowledgeable investor (hahahaha). So Elvis who was never able to demonstrate that he actually made the speculative plays that he claims. Raved on and on about how well he did in a few weeks. He was up 40% (which was also BS). He chided people for not being smart enough to follow his lead. Afterall he knows all about economic trends, he knows how the market will react to Fed interest rate increases which are designed to slow the economy and push back inflation. But the Market didn't respect Elvis. The Market said "those are the right steps" and has been on a tear for the last month and a half.

I must say I'm shocked, that's right just [B]shocked[/B] that the market ignored the advice of someone with all the graduate degrees and expertise that Elvis has. [B].Oh Wait!![/B]. That's right, Elvis doesn't have any graduate degrees or advance training. Elvis didn't even make it to college. But of course, he was far more knowledgeable than all the other experts who [B]have[/B] been to graduate school and have decades of experience..[/QUOTE]He's still in his trailer typing away about the same thing, but this time in the American Politics forum. To date all requests for proof of the trade, a simple transaction history screenshot, redacted past statement, have been answered only with bluster and threats to put you on ignore. This Pelvis is as real as the Marquis de Twat, if they aren't one and the same.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2725619]Well today is the last day in July (for the stock market at least). It's time to take stock on the world's most knowledgeable investor (hahahaha). So Elvis who was never able to demonstrate that he actually made the speculative plays that he claims. Raved on and on about how well he did in a few weeks. He was up 40% (which was also BS). He chided people for not being smart enough to follow his lead. Afterall he knows all about economic trends, he knows how the market will react to Fed interest rate increases which are designed to slow the economy and push back inflation. But the Market didn't respect Elvis. The Market said "those are the right steps" and has been on a tear for the last month and a half.

I must say I'm shocked, that's right just [B]shocked[/B] that the market ignored the advice of someone with all the graduate degrees and expertise that Elvis has. [B].Oh Wait!![/B]. That's right, Elvis doesn't have any graduate degrees or advance training. Elvis didn't even make it to college. But of course, he was far more knowledgeable than all the other experts who [B]HAVE[/B] been to graduate school and have decades of experience.

Remember the phrase. [B]even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every once in a while[/B]. But wait!! Let's take a real look!!

SQQQ.

43.35.

39.83.

(8. 1)%.

SPXU.

15.41.

15.31.

(0. 6)%.

SDOW.

29.67.

30.18.

1. 7%.

To make things clear: SQQQ, SPXU & SDOW are the stock symbols of the inverse ETFs that Elvis [B]claims[/B] he invested in.

The second line is the ending fund price on 4/28/2022 which is when Elvis posted that he made this trade.

The third line is the closing fund price today on 7/29/2022.

The fourth line is the percentage gain or loss.

If you take the average performance for the three funds you would be (2. 33)%.

Now you may remember Elvis bragging about being up 40%, that was just fiction. He was never up that much (even if he really did make the trade which by now everyone knows was also a fiction).

He scoffed at my being invested in REITs (Real Estate Investement Trusts) and high-quality dividend stocks and some high quality growth stocks. At the time I was down between 5 and 10%.

BUT July was a good month. I got a whole batch of dividends and those REITs have done nothing but go up. So today, I'm up about 6. 5% over the same time frame. Unlike Elvis, I'll personally meet with anyone and show them my investment accounts and my calculations.

So just remember, when someone tells you how they are such an expert but have no training, no education and only a fictitious bunch of results, which they cannot backup. Just laugh because that person is an Elvis impersonator or maybe even the Elvis here on ISG.[/QUOTE]Gives you advise on share to by, you should sell all your shares.

First thing, if you're asking me for investment advice, there's probably a "Will Work For Food" sign in your future. I've had some opportunities to learn, but I've never developed an interest. One of those opportunities has been on my mind since reading something posted here.

Making a living through investing is difficult and risky. It's so difficult that most people who manage it fall into 2 groups. The first group are people who worked another job for 20-40 years, investing a small part of their earnings. Eventually, they acquire enough to live off the proceeds (along with a pension plan and Social Security).

The second group avoids the work requirement through the success of their ancestors. They start out with sufficient capital to live off the proceeds.

What group an investor belongs in has no bearing on their skill or success.

Selling investment advice is more dependable, and it doesn't even need to be good advice. This was quite popular about 15 years ago.

It started with free tickets from my exgf's employer to see a bunch of motivational speakers. The lineup included Steve Forbes, Tony Dungy, Peyton Manning, Zig Ziglar and Colin Powell and during the intermission everyone was given the opportunity to sign up for a free investing seminar.

The ex was convinced that the seminar would be profitable and it was, for the people who put on the seminar. It was profitable enough to rent an NFL stadium and bring in some of the top speakers in the US just to get people to go to the free seminar.

The focus of the seminar was option trading, a way to leverage your investment stake. The appeal of option trading is that you can get an incredible ROI from a modest change in stock price. 500%, 1000%, even 2500% returns are not uncommon. In fact, those type of returns were the selling point at the free seminar. The basic package was free. I think the next level was $500 or $1,000. Beyond that was another level with a much higher price.

Of course, leverage works both ways. You can multiply your investment, or multiply your losses. In the free seminar, they focused on the potential gains and downplayed the risk.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2725997]He's still in his trailer typing away about the same thing, but this time in the American Politics forum. To date all requests for proof of the trade, a simple transaction history screenshot, redacted past statement, have been answered only with bluster and threats to put you on ignore. This Pelvis is as real.[/QUOTE]Hey, Pile on Pauline, your fellow douche was screaming about 20 year returns and needing to see a brokerage statement and now 20 years does not matter, and he does not need to see a brokerage statement. Hell, he is even saying that I lost money when the account I have held firm positions is still up 7%. That is the one I use as a baseline and was the one I recommend that people follow.

Let us go back to my statement here:

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721174]And one last thing, I will tell you when I move out of my positions. If the market goes up like you think and I am down, you can gloat all you want but you know what you have to do first douche? You have to grow up and be a man and admit you are getting your ass kicked. If you cannot do that, you coward, I will put you on ignore, and you can go to hell.[/QUOTE]So Pile on Pauline, did your butt buddy acknowledge my gains? Nope. What does that mean? He is a worthless, piece of shit, candy ass, Democratic douche just like you. If the market goes up, I don't have a brokerage statement. If I am down, the investment is real. This heads I win, tails you lose attitude is who you, Viliany, and EihTooms are and why no one should listen to you fools about anything.

Of course, I could just lie like you douches do all the time and say I sold at the peak, but I did not. In fact, I added to my positions in my trading account. That one is dead even now if you are keeping score.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721174]Contrarian investing is an investment style in which investors purposefully go against prevailing market trends by selling when others are buying and buying when most investors are selling.[/QUOTE]You might not recognize this but that is actually practicing what I preached. You should try it some time. Instead of lying and saying I sold, I was adding to my positions, going short when others go long.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721174]The most important thing you can do is an investor is to know when to stay the course and when to admit you are wrong and when to bail.[/QUOTE]So was I wrong? Not at all. All that has changed is perception. The Fed is still tightening. The yield curve is still inverted. QT is bigger than ever. A few companies weathered the inflation and recession storm well, but some big ones missed expectations and got crushed. Hell, you have this incompetent administration trying to argue that we are not in recession when every economic text book says we are.

I do not invest based on technical analysis but a few traders I respect on CNBC said the S&P would hit 4100 before going South. That is why I said you can make fun of my losses as long as you acknowledge my gains, but you two did not do that.

And for that fact alone, Pile on Pauline, it forever defines you and your butt boy Viliany as gutless cowards. We will see who has the last laugh yet.

Well, if you take investment advice from me, you will be doing the same thing thousands of people did over the years. And my advice won't be sexy. It won't involve leverage, and you won't get rich quick. It will be a 'get rich slow' approach. Me: CPA, CMA, CFM, Series 65, RIA, graduate business degree. Elvis, not so much. So my investment advice is to dollar cost average into Vanguard mutual funds. I did that for 40 years and I'm quite wealthy and never worked very hard.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2726296]Well, if you take investment advice from me, you will be doing the same thing thousands of people did over the years. And my advice won't be sexy. It won't involve leverage, and you won't get rich quick. It will be a 'get rich slow' approach. Me: CPA, CMA, CFM, Series 65, RIA, graduate business degree. Elvis, not so much. So my investment advice is to dollar cost average into Vanguard mutual funds. I did that for 40 years and I'm quite wealthy and never worked very hard.[/QUOTE]If you listen a little about everyone here is "quite wealthy. " And if you can't find enough here online there's more than enough on the ground. Just pull up a seat down south at any mongering hole. Speak to the guy on the stool next to you and he'll be glad to tell you all about it. Problem is few if any truly wealthy people are mongering in South America. They have delivery service in the US or are in Spain, France, Monaco, or a whole list of places with hotter and better educated women, much better infrastructure, safety, and superior food and scenery.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723267]I am sure that is how you would like it to be.

Truth is I posted about seeking and you and all the other Democratic douches ignored and were content with your disgusting centro pigs. Instead of joining seeking and hooking up with the best Colombia had to offer, you kept seeing the low life's who scope you. How many times have you winners been drugged or attempted to be drugged? And why the fuck would you keep seeing those women and going back to those places?

Hell, you could have made a killing when I posted what I did back in April about my trade. Did you? Of course not. And why not? Because you are a moron. There is a saying in investing that you do not fight the Fed, and the federal reserve is taking money out of the system which means the market is headed down. It is not that hard.

So you can hate on me all you want, but the truth is you and your crew are fools for not following my lead. You would rather sit around and make stupid ass comments like "Show us proof" than make money and be with hot women.

That is enough for now. My make believe GF just made me breakfast after fucking the shit out of me this morning.[/QUOTE]There's some cute little piggies in el centro!!

SA girls are still working girls, if you're going to brag about your superiority in this arena (first ask yourself WHY) and secondly remember that you're paying a working girl on an app more than what you could be paying a cutie from the mall, fonda, hueco, disco etc.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2726296]Well, if you take investment advice from me, you will be doing the same thing thousands of people did over the years. And my advice won't be sexy. It won't involve leverage, and you won't get rich quick. It will be a 'get rich slow' approach. Me: CPA, CMA, CFM, Series 65, RIA, graduate business degree. Elvis, not so much. So my investment advice is to dollar cost average into Vanguard mutual funds. I did that for 40 years and I'm quite wealthy and never worked very hard.[/QUOTE]You are "quite wealthy" and you objected to a guy spending $230 for an all nigher from a strip club? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! What is "quite wealthy"? You have a six pack in the fridge?

And you paid for a CPA, CMA, CFM, Series 65, RIA, and graduate business degree and all you learned is "buy Vanguard index funds". HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Boy, you really got value for all that time and money you spent! No wonder you have no money to pay women and are stuck with a toothless postmenopausal WG. And you are comparing her to what I got?

OMG, you are killing me man. Thanks for the belly laugh.

[QUOTE=JonnyPokerStar;2726420]

SA girls are still working girls[/QUOTE]How would you know? You have never used the site.

[QUOTE=JonnyPokerStar;2726420]if you're going to brag about your superiority in this arena (first ask yourself WHY).[/QUOTE]Okay, why is someone so stupid as to think I am bragging when I said those women were open to everyone? Yeah, I came up with an answer. The guy is a loser who cannot handle anyone doing better than he is. When he does see or hear someone doing better than him, his ego is so puny that he thinks it has to be due to more money. Are you "quite wealthy" like Huacho?

[QUOTE=JonnyPokerStar;2726420]and secondly remember that you're paying a working girl on an app more than what you could be paying a cutie from the mall, fonda, hueco, disco etc.[/QUOTE]This is not quite as humorous as Huacho's comment. It is actually is more pathetic than funny and I want to laugh tomorrow. Can you live stream your picking up a cutie from the mall, fonda, hueco, disco etc?

I really, really want to see what your definition of a cutie is and if her waist line is bigger than mine.

[QUOTE=JonnyPokerStar;2726420]There's some cute little piggies in el centro!!

SA girls are still working girls, if you're going to brag about your superiority in this arena (first ask yourself WHY) and secondly remember that you're paying a working girl on an app more than what you could be paying a cutie from the mall, fonda, hueco, disco etc.[/QUOTE]It's even better. With SA you're paying $100 a month for the opportunity to talk to girls and find one that is willing to take your money.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2684075]No man, Colombian girls aren't so beautiful. In terms of quality Sao Paulo is much better than Medellin. And, in general, I found Brazilian girls more participative. Even thought, there are many missiles in Brazil as well. In Brazil I got laid with a girl I met on Tinder, for free, in Medellin I always had to pay. Medellin is good because you can get girls on Facebook, and it's also good for El Centro, since you can find some pearls there. I can't speak for Mexico because I have never been there. But I would never pick up Colombia if it wasn't so cheap, not if I have to choose in relation to the beauty.[/QUOTE]This is of course just my opinion supported by my own and others experiences, but Brazilian girls come across as significantly more genuine, educated and curious about the world. In short, to me Colombia feels more like a third world country while Brazil doesn't.