Cartagena Reports

Day TWO

I had schedule Alex to spend the night with me tonight, so I know that there would be no reason to go to LDV or Elektra that evening. Because I would be with an excellent provider in the evening, I decided to go for a long walk in the morning, prepare breakfast in the apartment, and spend some time in the pool. I did not feel like going to the beach to deal with Tony, so the pool was an excellent and relaxing way to spend a few hours. I walked down to the internet café across from the building that houses LDV and LaPerla to check on my bank account and email. After reviewing the ATM transactions and being satisfied that all was well, I checked my emails. My wife had sent me a very strongly worded email asking if I was in Cartagena. It turns out that within five minutes of me leaving the apartment yesterday to get some water, Diet Coke, and beer, four people had already called her to tell her I was in town. No wonder they call it the Coconut Internet because it is really a tight community where everyone knows each others business. I wrote her back telling her yes I was in Cartagena, but I would not tell her where I was staying because I needed time alone. Since at this time, I knew divorce was in the cards, I was not yet ready to listen to her pleas. I am her security and she would not give up.

It was about 11:00 in the morning and was not expecting to see any prospect that early in the morning which were not already at the beach. So I casually walked along the street watching several different construction crews taking sledge hammers to the street at several locations. Make that one guy with the sledge hammer, one guy watching for traffic and six others watching the other guy work his ass off. Apparently, they have not heard of jack hammers!

As I was about four buildings down from my apartment, I notice a pair of pink shorts heading towards a convenience store near the Conquitador. What the hell, I decided to follow and entered the store. I found a small young girl with a tight white T-Shirt and even tighter and smaller pink shorts. It threw me a bit when she turned around to talk with one of the clerks and I quickly said way too young and walked outside. I saw her buy a package of cigarettes, so I was confused a bit.

I walked back towards my apartment when she caught up with me and I turned my head and she smiled at me and said Hello, in only the way a working girl would say it. I am still stunned at how young she looks and quickly asked her to meet me in the lobby of the Marinare in five minutes. Because of my wife's friends in the area, I did not want anybody to see me striking a deal. Her name is Carolina and she told me she was twenty years old. The guy at the reception area checked her over and she wrote down her ID number. I was worried he did not look at her cedula.

Upstairs we talked for awhile and she put her small coin purse containing her cedula and a condom on the sofa. When she went to the bathroom I was able check her cedula and she is actually 18 years old and she was turning 19 on Thursday. She took me to the shower and washed me. Actually since I had been walking, I was quite sweaty and a shower was needed for her sake and mine.

She gave me a great massage working hard on my neck, hands and feet. This was greatly appreciated because at sea level, my extremities swell up a bit. Seeing this 18 year old a little closer, I could see some indication her age was accurate and her braces made her look younger. She was about 5'3". 95 lbs and about 34 b-22-33. She had black hair past her shoulders with a pink ribbon. I swear she had a Hello, Kitty barrette in her hair. She is from Barranquilla and had lightly tanned skin color similar to Alex.

After the massage, she put the condom on me and started with a BJ. After about ten minutes, it was my turn to reciprocate. I got a few moans and different movements of the hips and legs, but nothing close to the reaction Alex had. Every once in awhile she would grind her pussy into my face and run her fingers in my hair. I did like it when she would grab my ears and push my head closer to her and also she would reach out to hold my hand that would be resting on her belly. I finished with a load into the pink condom she brought. She also cleaned me and cuddled for a few minutes.

Before she left, I took some pictures of her clothed, but had to promise that I would not share with anybody. She asked for 150K, but I gave her 100K with a promise to see her another time for longer period and for 150K. I got her contact information and she told me she had two roommates across the street in the Atlantis building. This is working out good for me because I do not need to be seen by my wife's friends and the pussy is coming to me. It is not even 1:00 in the afternoon and I have already been satisfied with a prospect of even better treatment in the evening with Alex.

After a small lunch comprised of a couple Empanada de Carne and three Aquilla Lights, I went down to the pool for an hour. After a quick hour nap, I got a call from the reception desk telling I had quests. Carolina and two of her friends wanted to come up. Without hesitation, I said sure why not. I opened the door and in walked my Hello, Kitty girl, Carolina, another striking young lady wearing fashionable eye glasses named Claudia, and a person with a very familiar face named Sandra. I have known Sandra for about four years but only had sex with her once. She is very sweet and she is very good listener. I consider her a friend more than a provider. Sandra is between 25 and 27 years old with a tight body and a flat stomach. Claudia is 22 years old about 5'3" tall and a 34b-23-34 body.

Sandra sat in the recliner and the other two joined me on the sofa. They brought some CDs and we listened to music, drank some beer and Chevas, and talked about my issues with my wife. Carolina does not drink alcohol and left after a half hour. So Claudia, Sandra and I spent the next hour dancing, drinking and talking. About 3:00, Claudia decided to give me a lap dance which got me excited. Soon she had nothing on and was rubbing up and down my chest and crotch. Sandra was massaging my neck while Claudia was now burying her face in my crotch. I had no intention of going further because I wanted to be ready for Alex, but my small head took over my thinking.

Claudia was giving me such a good French kissing session, I thought I was back in high school with the sophomore girl known as a "sure thing" in the back seat of my dad's '72 Mercury Marquis. I really wanted only Claudia, but it would be rude to have Sandra leave. Besides, Sandra had her hand up my shorts exploring for my dick and I really wanted to be a good host.

Claudia reached for my hand and led me to the bedroom. Sandra soon followed completely nude. Her body is more sleek than voluptuous and has such a beautiful flat stomach and firm round ass. Claudia's body is like the high school cheerleader that is strong, yet feminine. And she sure can rotate her hips and ass in that sexy Latin way.

They started with a massage, one doing the lower extremities and the other with the upper torso, then they switch. They rolled me over and repeated. Soon Sandra was giving me a great BBJ and Claudia was licking and sucking my nipples, then back to French kissing. Ten minutes later they switched. It was not long after this that I shot into Claudia's mouth. Claudia leaned over and gave Sandra a kiss and provided her with an equal share of my protein.

They were feeling somewhat frisky after the drinks we consumed and they decided to give me a show. For the next few minutes, the 69'd each other while I watched. They then change position and Claudia was on her back and Sandra was munching away on Claudia's vagina. Since I was not able to sample each of them before I came, I then approached Sandra from the back and gave her pussy some attention. A short while later, they changed positions and I had Claudia for my enjoyment. I really fell for Claudia and was happy when Sandra went to take a shower. Claudia and I cuddled for a short while and Sandra poked her head in to say she was heading out. She did not ask for money, but I got up and gave her 100K. In a previous year, she accepted 50K.

Claudia took a short nap with her head buried in my arms and her legs wrapped about my waist. Her first reaction when she woke up was to reach for my cock and started to play with it. Soon she started stroking it and her mouth found its way down there. This time she did not need to share my load and she would play with my cum. She would let it drip down and then slurp it back up into her mouth. Any of it that had trickled down her chin or chest was quickly corralled with her finger and placed back into her mouth, then finished with one swallow and a smile.

Before she left, she gave me her contact information and email and I gave her mine. I actually received a message from her when I got home. She really liked having her picture taken also.

I ended the afternoon taking a nap and drinking a lot of water and OJ to prepare for my night with Alex. I am not a young man anymore and in the past few years, I have not had much sex with my wife and I in separate countries. So for the first two days in Cartagena, I am releasing much pent up energy.

Alex actually showed up and fifteen minutes early. This is quite unusual for Colombia women to keep an appointment and to be on time. Alex was dressed in tight jeans and a top that left her mid drift bare, she was stunning. She had only eaten lunch that day, so I asked her if she wanted to go somewhere for dinner. Since there are many people in Laquito and Bocagrande that know me, we decided to go to the new mall and eat at the Crepes and Waffles restaurant. I then took her to the cinema to see the movie based upon the Sin titas no hay paraiso book and TV novella.

Alex was surprised I went out of my way to take her on a "date" and to make her feel special. Even though she knew I would be giving her 250K in the morning, she felt like we started to build a friendship. We spent the rest of the night having sex and sleeping. She awoke at 6:00 am and we had sex one more time before she showered and left to change clothes before she had to go to class. The previous time with her was met with a refusal to take her picture, but this time she let me take a photo and then I set the timer to get a picture of the two of us. I sent her a copy via email later.

After Alex left, I cleaned the apartment and put the sheets and towels in the wash. While the wash was being completed, I decided to take my morning walk. Little did I know, but that walk would turn the rest of my week and possible my life into a different direction.

It is late and I will post Day Three tomorrow.

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DAY ONE

Please forgive me if I seem a little long winded, but this trip needs an explanation, especially for anyone that wants to marry a Colombian. I have been married to a Colombiana for seven years and after a few years, she returned to Colombia to take care of her gravely I'll mother. After her mother passed away, the length of time she had been out of the US meant that we had to reapply for a visa. She had two appointments at the embassy in July and August. Both times she told me that she did not get her visa. Once due to needing an original document and the other for a reason she did not understand. I sent an email to the embassy and they told me she did not show up for either of the appointments. Thinking she has not been honest with me so she could string me along for financial support, I told her I could not afford to keep both of our households in the US and Colombia and we need to go our separate ways. I let her know that I would talk to her when I come to her on Thursday, Sept 9th. I actually arrived on Sunday so I could spend time alone and have some fun without fear of a jealous spouse.

I am in my mid fifties and spend more time at work than looking for sex, so after I got married my attention drifted towards my wife and step-son. When my wife left for Colombia, there has been much stress on our marriage, but we have previously found a way to make our lives interesting. If I had sex with another woman, it was set up by my wife with girls she knew and she would be a part of it. There was also a time five years ago when she had to visit her family in Monteria and she set up a friend to keep me company in Cartagena while she was gone.

I left my house at 3:30 in the morning of Sunday Sept 5 and after connecting in Atlanta and then to Miami, I finally found myself on Avianca flight #35. I was so glad to get off the Delta planes with their cramped quarters and their hard core flight attendants. I do not know if it is their planes or flight attendants that are older, but it is depressing. The Avianca flight was smooth with the TV's on the seat backs, a couple glasses of free whiskey, and a meal. The meal is not one you find in a five star restaurant, but is sure beats a couple small bags of peanuts Delta tosses at you. The flight attendants are young and just beautiful. They are what one would think of stewardess from the early sixties on US planes.

After getting through customs in about five minutes, my bags were ready for me. Then after battling through the throng of family members meeting their loved ones and through the never ending hands of taxi drivers grabbing for your bags, I made my way to the terminal to get some cash at the ATM.

I went outside of the terminal to find a single taxista waiting for a customer. She put my bags in the back seat and I grabbed the front seat next to her and we were off to Laquito. She was a pleasant surprise in that this is the first time I had seen a female taxi driver in Cartagena. She was fun to talk to and made the short trip even shorter. The first thing I noticed was the large amount of street construction going on all the way to my apartment.

I stayed in one of Juan Ventura's apartments. The apartment was located in the Marinare building in # 1004. The room looks out over the ocean with a huge balcony with an electric grill. I only needed one bedroom, so I got the apartment for $100 a night. It has two flat screen TVs, washer/dryer, Sony music system connected to the TV, sofa, recliner chair, AC, hot water, ceiling fans, nice bed and closet with a full mirrored front. If you need a place in Cartagena, this is one great place.

After preparing the apartment to my liking, that is, setting the thermostat to cool the apartment, turning on the ceiling fans, filling the fridge with some water, Diet Coke, and beer, I decided to take a walk to the beach. As soon as I made my way within sniffing (appropriate wording for Tony) distance of Hollywood beach, I heard the famous Tony chant "My fren, my fren. How are you? Sit down, you want some cocaine, pussy, you buy Tony a beer? " He did introduce me to a young university student from Barranquilla. She was with friends, both male and female and she needed to return to them by 6:30 to go back home. Her name is Alex and she is 19 years old. Very interesting to talk to her in that she is intelligent and more sophisticated than any other beach girl I have previously met. She quoted me 250K for an hour and I just smiled and gave her a stare until she came down to 150K. Since it was already 4:45, I needed to close the deal before she had to head for home. I agreed to 150K and we headed back to my apartment. As we were making our way there, I found myself being fully engaged in her conversation without appreciating what a wonderful body she has. She stood about 5'5" with dark brown hair and lightly colored tanned skin. She weighed about 105 lbs with a 34c, 22, 33 body.

I asked her if she would like a quick shower, she smiled and said yes if I would join her.

Somehow we squeezed into the shower which was actually large by Colombia standards. We washed each other totally and after drying off, she grabbed a bottle of body lotion before heading into the bedroom. She reached for me and gave me a big hug and a full open mouth kiss. Then she led me to the bed and pulled me down.

She then rolled me over so she could apply lotion and massage my back and legs. Then proceeded to take care of my chest, neck, and slowly worked down my body. I had a condom on the nightstand, but she did not reach for it, but instead reached for my cock with her lips. She had such a slow motion working the tip with her soft full lips and provided lots of circular saliva filled tongue action. I glance over to the mirror to watch her head bobbing up and down and watching her long hair cover my stomach. She purposely laid on the bed so that I could massage her legs and perfectly smooth firm ass while she gave me head. I knew I was about to blow after ten minutes when she looked up at me with those almond shaped dark brown eyes. She removed her lips, smiled and shook her index finger whispering "no, no, no ahorita" (Not now?). She glided her body up along my body until we were in a very good cuddling position and she remained for several minutes kissing my neck and chest. She slowly laid on her back and pulled me on top of her.

While I started to kiss her lips, she was positioning her body to receive the gift I about to give her. She used her hands to guide my head to where she wanted me to start on her quarter-sized light brown nipples. I took notice of her moans and body movements when I was sucking her nipples and lightly use my teeth to make her quiver a bit. I decided to continue, but also let my hand explore her midsection. What a nice female belly and recently waxed pubic area. When my hand got to her pussy, it was met by a river of pussy juice. I had never been with a pro (even if she was a "semi-pro") that was so moist I forgot that I was with somebody I had just paid. I worked my way down to enjoy her pussy and applied my tongue on her for at least fifteen minutes. She would moan out, I think, "muy rico" many times and felt her shake at least twice. Later I asked if she enjoyed herself and she told me she came three times.

After giving her some pleasure, she took the condom out and decided to suck my cock for a couple more minutes to get me hard again. She started cowgirl for about two minutes and reverse cowgirl for another three minutes. I usually can't get off with a condom and as hard as she tried, it was not working. She passionately ripped off the condom and started to suck again. She asked me to put a finger in her pussy and another finger to massage lightly her anus. As she was giving me wonderful head, my fingers were getting deeper in her pussy, but also in her asshole. She then came again and within two minutes I could feel myself about to blow because while she was sucking she would massage the twins and lightly finger my ass. I gave her the indication I was ready to blow and expected the usual removal of the lips and movement of the body so I could come on her tits. BUT, this did not occur. She kept sucking and using her tongue to make me explode into her mouth. Even as I came, she kept the tongue circulating around the head and sucked until she got every last drop. After she took a deep gulp, she smiled at me with one small drop of my leche on the corner of her left lower lip. She took her tongue and reached over to make sure she did not miss that last drop. She went into the bathroom to use my mouthwash and entered the bedroom with a hot wash cloth and cleaned and dried me. I started to put on a pair of shorts, but she stopped me and pulled me down on the bed to hold each other for the next ten minutes. Her cell phone rang a few different times, but she did not even reach for it. She glanced at the clock and noticed it was almost 7:00 and laughed. She said that her friends can wait a few more minutes.

After a few minutes of small talk, we traded contact information and agreed to meet the next night at 8:00. She said she had classes until 2:00 in the afternoon and needed to complete some assignments before she could come over. She asked me shyly if I could give her 250K for our next encounter the next night. I was about to tell her after the performance she just gave me I would give her twice that amount, but she softly asked me if it was OK if she could spend the night with me because she did not like to travel to her place after midnight. Heck, 250K with this treasure for the night, how could I resist. I walked her downstairs, expecting not to see her again because of previous appointments scheduled with Colombia girls that never materialized. Oh how wrong I would be as described in my next post.

After my encounter with Alex, I decided to get a quick bite at Riquismo (sp). Laquito has changed over the past seven years in that it is getting more difficult to find a small restaurant to get something to eat. Many establishments have replaced with new high-rise apartment buildings. I have been around this area for many years with my wife and the guys at Riquismo give me a hard time if they see me walking past with somebody other than my wife (even with a friend of hers). So I need to be careful in this area. It was past 8:00 by the time I finished eating and decided to go back to apartment for a quick shower and a glass of Chevas. I had now been up for 19 hours without sleep, but was determined to continue later that night at Elektra. I can't go to LDV or the casino, LaPerla, because of the many people that know my wife at the casino. Unfortunately, I woke up the next morning with an empty glass in one hand and the TV remote in the other. Now I am ready for day two.

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[quote=otiers]day three

this was a strange trip for me in the sense that i had made plans to meet angelina from girlfriendforaweek on sept 8th which is day four in cartagena. i was looking forward to her spending about 12 hours with me.

unfortunately, this morning of day three, i had taken an early walk from laquito to the olympica store in bocagrande for some quick supplies. on the way back, i made the mistake of not keeping an eye forward watching where i was walking. anyone that has ever walked the streets of cartagena realizes that many obstacles are in your way, such as uneven and missing sidewalks. as i was walking across the street, i turned my head to check for any speeding taxis when my feet caught a large slab of concrete. i turned to protect myself and landed on my left side, injuring my knee, elbow and shoulder. i was a blooding and dirty mess, but after a quick cleanup at a restaurant, i was ok except for my pride. i noticed a small pain in my back, but ignored it.

it wasn't until i took a whizz a while later did i know something else was wrong. it is freaky seeing red in bottom of the john instead of yellow. at this time, i made a decision that changed the whole week and possibly make future years take a different path than one i expected earlier in the week. as i previously explained, i had informed my wife that i would not support her any longer if she continues to fail to get the visas for herself and my stepson.

but many things go through your head when staring at your own blood flow out like i was having a period. it scares the crap out you and here i was away from the us and without a ppo hospital around for a thousand miles. i reached for the telephone and took a deep breath. the next few words out of my mouth needed to be calm and in need of assistance without capitulating my stance with my wife. she answered her telephone and to her credit she talked to me in a calm voice. after explaining what happened she said she would be at the apartment in 30 minutes. forty minutes later, i got a call from the reception area telling me my wife had arrived.

let me take a quick break here to give major kudos to the men at the reception desk. they know how to be a monger's best friend by providing ladies with only general information. my wife asked the guys downstairs if i had any girls up to the room and they replied 'none" and i had been an angel. i tipped them 40k on my out of town.

between the time i called my wife and her arrival, i was able to send an email to cancel my appointment with angelina. this was depressing because she looked incredible on the web site. i hope she is still working when i return.

my wife came up and gave me a big hug and kiss based upon the answers given by the guys downstairs and away we headed to the clinic. after a quick [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] sample and exam, they decided to admit me into the hospital for observation. after an iv, prodding of my kidney area, more [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] samples and more prodding, i was able to get some sleep and by morning, they were satisfied that i was ok to leave, but i needed to follow-up with my family doc when i returned home. so much for day three, no pussy and i'm starting to lose my audience here.

day four

this is a very depressing day in that i had prepared my mind for at least a week on how to entertain angelina. i had to put her out of my mind, but she kept creeping back in while i was talking to my wife.

my conversation with my wife proved to be interesting in that she was confused as to why i had decided to separate and she felt that she did nothing wrong in her attempt to get the visa. i explained to her that the embassy said she did not show up for her appointments in july and august. she said she was there. later in the day we went to our house in the zaragocilla area of cartagena and she produced evidence of her visit to the embassy. she produced her airline stubs, a receipt of the money paid for the interview, and notation from the embassy indicating all her documents were in order. when she called to schedule her appointment, she was told it would be august 27th, but when the appointment letter was sent to me, it stated august 25th, so i checked their web site and it also had the 25th. once the money was paid and she sat there all day, the "man behind the glass" refused to interview her because his computer said she was to be there on the 27th. it is impossible for a foreign born person to enter the embassy grounds without documentation and if her appointment was on the 27th, she could not enter if her letter said the 25th. basically, she was treated like dirt by this embassy person and she was scared and hurt to complain. we decided to try to go to the embassy one more time. so here i am in pussyworld and i am thinking i am cutoff.

we went to get something to eat and drink in the old city and then went back to the house. my wife said she needed to get laundry done at the house and she told me she would meet me after 11:00 that night and head to the casino. so i grabbed a taxi and headed back to the apartment. the taxi drive asked me if i needed some companionship and he knew a couple of casas that were open in the area. the first one was near our house and was careful getting out of the taxi and heading inside. about five girls came out and there were a few big girls and three petite girls. very cute girls, obviously from the barrios and dressed in something less than a kleenex. in the light, the three cute girls looked very young and the madam pointed to one of them and said she was sixteen and then the other two were fourteen. i turned and asked the taxi drive to take me back to laquito.

as i got out of the taxi, i noticed claudia outside of the atlantis and waved her over. when we met in the lobby of the marinare, the reception guy smiled at me and gave me the thumbs up. claudia ran back across to the atlantis and returned a few minutes later with some cds. for the next hour we drank a little, danced, and made out like a couple of teenagers. the sex was even better with her in a solo mode that i was having such mixed emotions being with her after i agreed to make things work out with my wife.

claudia put the black eyed peas cd in and just went into a dancing frenzie to i got a feeling. she stripped to this song and was gyrating nude in front of me. she provided a great lap dance and used her mouth to give me head outside of my shorts. the whole time she ran her hands up my legs then inside my shorts to search for the prize. it took about 30 seconds to get me hard. i started to get up to go to the bedroom, but she pushed me back onto the sofa. for the next few minutes, she had her mouth all over me and i felt a finger exploring my ass. she inserted a finger while sucking me and it only took me a couple of minutes before i finished in her mouth. at this time i expected her to swallow like she did the other night, but she took her half filled glass of chevas and let my cum spill into her glass. she took her finger and stirred her drink and started sipping the elixir. little by little, the white german (my german heritage and play on a white russian) disappeared down her throat. it was very hot to see especially as she sipped, she talked to me about her life and family back in monteria.

we listened to some more music and had some snacks i had stored in the cabinet. we held each other for a few more minutes when she wanted to go out on the balcony. if anybody has ever stayed at the marinare, you know how this building is situated that nobody can see you here. we were both sitting nude outside watching the water and small boats go past when the spark in her eyes lit up like a small child discovering a new way to get into mischief. she had me sit in the tall bar chair which meant all she had to do was slightly bend over to suck my cock. after i got hard, she bent over in front of me so that i could slide inside of her. she did not want a condom because she knew i could not cum with one on. i am hesitant to have unprotected sex and in bad judgment i enter from behind. it only took a few minutes before i pulled out and shot it all over her back. she reached around and rubbed it all over her back and perfect ass with her hands. after she did this, she back into me rubbing all over me.

she had been with me for three hours and was happy to receive 150k. i told her my wife would be there for the night, but i would think of her.

i took a quick nap and then showered in anticipation of going out with my wife. i must admit, even though i love the opportunity to have sex anytime i want, without sex, cartagena can be dull without somebody special to go out on the town. we headed to santa domingo for a few drinks and talk to a few performs we had met previously in years past. we ended up in laperla playing roulette until about 2:00 am. about six or seven girls from ldv came over to the casino to play the slots and get some free drinks while they played. as i was at the table, my eyes caught a lovely young lady about 5'10", 36c-24-34. i just drooled. it was difficult not to stare because of her beauty, but also the way she was dressed. she had on a light blue top that hugged her breasts and exposed a perfect mid section. she also had on a dark blue pair of spandex shorts that provided a view of a perfect ass and displayed a fantastic camel toe.

my wife noticed a few times i was not concentrating on roulette and making stupid plays. when she saw me stare over to the slots, she asked if i wanted to play the slots, but i whispered to her that i was amazed how attractive girls are in colombia including her. she saw the girl in blue and said she was a very good looking girl and it is ok for me to notice and she appreciated how i make her feel special and attractive. the next thirty minutes were good for us as my wife took 20k and turned it into 1. 5 milliones. we had consumed about half a bottle of buchanan (which we bought for 75k). the casino no longer provides free whiskey, but will provide rum and beer.

my wife got up to go into the bathroom and when she returned she said "vamos" and we took the remainder of the whiskey and out the door we went. as we headed down the stairs towards the taxi, the tall blue dressed "smurfette" followed us. usually we will walk from the casino to the area of the apartments, but tonight we took a taxi. i open the taxi door for my wife, but smurfette climbed in with my wife in the back seat. a light bulb suddenly popped over my head and i got in the front seat with a shit eatin grin. back at the apartment, we walked right past the reception and up to the apartment.

smurfette's name is patricia and is from peiria. my wife offered some her some buchanan and put on a juanes cd. i passed on the buchanan and i went for my bottle of chevas. at this time i am really hoping that i am not disobeying any of the doctor's orders by drinking, but sometimes you take a chance. the three of us dance and grind on each other and soon it got heated. we sat on the sofa with me in the middle and my wife and my other dream girl kissing my neck and ears. when my wife drinks a bit too much she tends to bite my chest and leaves teeth marks on me. patricia is really striking and it is strange that i really find her sexy because i usually like them petite. soon we were all nude and dancing and then to the bedroom.

my wife is not into giving oral sex, but she loves to receive. it only takes her about two minute to climax which disappoints me because i could spend hours down there. while i was giving my wife some attention, i could feel patricia's lips moving up the back of my leg and ending with my cock in her mouth. because my wife climaxed rapidly, a change in position was in order. patricia laid down and i started giving her attention with my mouth. while i was doing this, i got a nice massage from my wife.

my wife is usually conservative except when she drinks whiskey so this is quite a surprise for me. she later explained she felt bad for all of the sacrifice and stress i had over the past year and wanted to make it up to me. after an hour i had cum at least two times and both patricia and my wife twice each. a few minutes later, i am in the shower and soon afterwards patricia was showering. i got dressed and headed back out into the living room. my wife was in the kitchen preparing breakfast for the three of us. after consuming some eggs and crescents, patricia needed to leave and my wife pulled out 200k and gave it to her as she walked out the door.

it was about 6:00 in the morning and i needed sleep. i cleaned up the kitchen and headed into the bedroom where my wife was sound asleep. as i looked at her, i remembered why i fell in love with her.

tomorrow days five and six.[/quote]i have never seen the report like this. detail.informative. and passionate. your wife is also very generous.

These reports day by day by Otiers, are off the hook, they are almost like something out of a novel. Anyway they are excellent. Great reading.

[QUOTE=Orientalexpress]I have never seen the report like this. Detail.informative. And passionate. Your wife is also very generous.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Only 3 Times??? That's quite laughable, Ricker has been known to give them at 8 or 10 orgasms at time and leave them begging for more![/QUOTE]Funny M-Heat hahahahajejejeje.

Remeber that was a running joke a while back when that other guy was posting about how many orgasms his chicas were having.

Haven't heard from you in a bit mi amigo.

Hope all is well.

I think I'm going to make a quick to trip to Cartagena, a few days maybe.

I dig Medellin but I think a stop in Cartagena is in order.

Como esta tu Calena?

Talk to ya soon.

Day Five

After Patricia left and I climbed into bed all I could think of is how satisfied I was in the first four days and the next two days will be anticlimactic. My wife and I discussed how I needed to spend time with my 12 year old stepson since I am the only father he knows.

My wife left about 11:00 am to head home and pay for her electric, gas and other services. She would then come back at 7:00 with my stepson after he got home from school. So I had about 8 hours to enjoy the fruits of Colombia.

I decided to take a walk along the beach and the usual culprits were there trying to extract money from me. I was surprised that Tony was not there this day, which was OK by me. I walked on past Hollywood Beach for about two miles and headed back. On the way back, Momma Rosa spotted me and prepared a fruit plate. I gave her 10K just because she always is fun to talk to and she needs the money. After I finished, I headed back down the beach towards the apartment where I needed a dip in the pool. Before I left the beach, a younger massage girl carrying her supplies in her small bucket asked if I wanted a massage. After my walk, my legs were hurting, so I thought why not. The massage girls are from the poorer area of Cartagena and will provide a good hard massage. She was a very dark skinned girl of about 20 years old and was rather tall about 5'8" and thin. Back in the apartment, she had me take a shower while she prepared the bed with towels. I came out and laid on my stomach. She started with my head, working from the top, then down the side to my ears and then to the neck. I do not remember her massaging my back because I was looking forward to her getting to my aching legs and feet. She did not disappoint. Those strong hands worked my legs and feet for almost 10 minutes and as she moved up my leg, she would lightly touch my balls and my ass crack. She turned me over and started with my feet and worked her way up my legs. Once again, she would brush my balls and cock as she moved to my torso. Once she got to my face, she would lean forward to let her tits brush my stomach. She rubbed my temples and face and I was just totally relaxed. As I lay there with my eyes half closed with relaxation, she took off her clothes. That thin body actually looked great with natural pointy tits and a full bush of curly pubic hair. She took out some oil and poured it on my chest. She then climbed on top of me and started to move up and down my body gliding from one end to another and all the while my cock was getting stroked by her body. I would have been satisfied with this alone, but then she provided me a great BBJ. I blew into her mouth and she let it drip back down all over me. She then used both hands to stroke me until I was done releasing my milk. She got dressed and ran to get a cloth to wash me. She then grabbed my clothes and proceeded to dress me. All of this and she asked me for 50K. I had never had a massage from one of the girls from the beach and this was a great experience after my long walk.

I took a quick taxi to the McDonalds to get a Quarterpounder, fries and a diet coke. This is the first time I have eaten at McDonalds for about a year and it tasted great. After I ate, I decided to walk back to the apartment. By the time I got there, it was about 4:30 and it was fishin' time. I sat outside of Playa Mar to talk with an ex-pat who lived there and we solved the world's problems in that half hour time. So many girls were walking past, but I kept my eye open for Claudia since this would be my last chance. About five minutes later, off in the distance, I thought I spotted her. Slowly up the street comes my favorite and she looked up and saw me. About 50 yards away she gave me a wave, but stayed on the opposite side of the street. When she was close enough I gave a casual wave for her to come over to where I was sitting. I needed to be discreet so my wife's friends would not notice. The gentleman I was with talked to her for a few minutes while I casually walked to my apartment. She soon followed and I got a call from the reception desk if Claudia could come up. I kinda said " Uh yeah" and in two minutes we were greeting each other like I just came home from the war.

Our time together this time was just as memorable as the other times, but I knew this would be the last time with her. She was unaware that I would be "papi" for the next day and a half while I entertained my stepson. As she kissed me goodbye and headed out the door, my heart sank knowing I would not be able to kiss those full lips or grab that great ass one more time. Also, in my mind, I am still not certain if my wife will get her visa.

I love my wife for her beauty, vitality, sense of humor, and charm, but there will always be those cultural differences which conflict with everything I know. That is I work hard and be frugal if I am short of cash. For her, if she has 50K in her pocket at the end of the night, it was not a good night. She showed up at 7:30 and we headed to the cinema to watch some 3-D movie in Spanish. I forget the name of it, but it is playing at the local theater here in my hometown. I used this time to grab a nice nap and the only time I awoke was when I felt a hand on my left leg. I then realized my wife was on my right. Next to me was a cute woman about 25 on a date with some loser looking guy. She was attractive and I am not sure if he put her up to it when they saw me napping. It did keep me awake and I gave a quick smile to my molester. When the movie was over I got a better look of her before we all left. As I got up my neighbor decided to get one last feel and she grabbed my cock while her boyfriend was not looking. As she left she was smiling and laughing as they walked down the stairs. Her boyfriend looked a little annoyed, so perhaps she turned the tables on him and I was an innocent victim.

The rest of the night was a few whiskies with my wife while my stepson watched TV.

Day Six

Today will be one with no sex except with my wife in the morning while my stepson slept. After breakfast we headed on the bus to the Comcel office to buy a Wifi device for my stepson. By 10:00 my wife decided to go get her hair done and run some errands. She told me she would be back by 3:30. My stepson looked at me as she was leaving and let out a cheer "let's go find some Chicas". He takes after me after all. The rest of the day was spent at the pool. An evening Mexican meal of fajitas and burritos finished off a fine family day, but the food would be my wake-up call in the middle of the night.

My wife and I went to the casino and we played until the last 20K left my pocket. Our friend Patricia stopped by and greeted us with a kiss and a hug. After a few minutes of talk, she headed back over to LDV. My wife can spend hours at he casino talking to her friends and LaPerla is casual in that they do not rush you into losing your money. They take your money slowly.

For those looking to get involved with a Colombian woman, understand they love their country. Many may be poor, but they are happy and they will make you feel like you are the only person in the world. They will make their family the highest priority and expect you to pay for dinner for her family and the occasional hospital bill. I have even paid for my sister-in-law's funeral this past March. I visited her hometown of Monteria a few years ago and she invited the entire neighborhood for food, rum, beer, and music. It lasted until 7:00 in the morning when a bus appeared and everyone piled into the bus and headed to a beach midway back to Cartagena. If you ever experience this, do not be surprised when the bus pulls up to an ATM and everyone on the bus looks at you. This happened to me and it made me feel pretty bad and I was angry with my wife, but she looked at me and explained that the $250. 00 we spent the night before and that day at the beach for 25 people would be forgotten in about a week, but this day will be remembered by 25 people for the rest of their lives.

This is the logic of my wife and why I still love her and will continue to work with her to bring her back home. I let off much pent up sexual energy and was not sure where my marriage was heading. Language issues made it difficult to fully trust each other, but once you sit down and realize you both want the same thing, everything becomes clear in your head.

Those that have never left the secure life they hide behind in their office, big rig, or any other 8 – 5 job, my life may not make much sense. I have enjoyed the company of many young ladies this past week and I have made a few of them friends of mine. I let one young lady Alex steal my heart, but realize she will be successful in life in whatever she decides to do and I will be long forgotten. I got reacquainted with an old friend in Sandra and she provided me with an ear for me to tell her my perceived marital problems. I met a sweet young girl in Carolina with her braces filled smile that made me feel young again. I had my head and heart turned inside out by an energetic and stimulating woman in Claudia.

To some, my posts may seem long and self serving, but if you get out and smile, talk and understand these outstanding young ladies of Colombia, you will feel the need to write your thoughts and feelings in long prose like I have done. If you come here to just drink, screw as many girls as you can and do not remember anything about them, then your memories will run into one forgotten pool.

The real shame is many of these girls will return to their homes and you will never see them again. Some of these ladies will be broken and some will have memories of the gringo that made her feel like a queen for one night. For me, I try to make each one to feel important and not broken. What happens next for me and my wife is not certain, but it is clearer where we are headed.

I wish you all the best and hope you enjoy Cartagena as much as I have over the past seven years and as much as I will continue to enjoy in the future.

Welcome to my world and realize, I figured out this week my wife and stepson are important to me and I do not want it any differently.

Back Home

My wife has gotten her new appointment date at the embassy in October and if everything goes well, they will come home in November when my stepson is finished with his school year.

I got an email from Claudia today and she wanted to thank me the time we spent together. She told me she was sorry that she did not get to say goodbye to me and understands I want to have my wife in my life. She asked me to keep a small piece of my heart available for her so she can be my friend. You can't beat that.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Funny M-Heat hahahahajejejeje.

Remeber that was a running joke a while back when that other guy was posting about how many orgasms his chicas were having.

Haven't heard from you in a bit mi amigo.

Hope all is well.

I think I'm going to make a quick to trip to Cartagena, a few days maybe.

I dig Medellin but I think a stop in Cartagena is in order.

Como esta tu Calena?

Talk to ya soon.[/QUOTE]Jejejejeeje, LOL remember that guy? That was some funny shit! Everything good on the Caleña front, but its looking more and more that I will be the eternal bachelor, who knows? LOL Lets keep in touch hermano. Going to D. R. For the weekend with the boys, we always have a ball no matter what. Stay well!

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69]Otiers,

Why the name change to Thair9999?[/QUOTE]I could not figure that out either why somebody would repost my report.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Jejejejeeje, LOL remember that guy? That was some funny shit! Everything good on the Caleña front, but its looking more and more that I will be the eternal bachelor, who knows? LOL Lets keep in touch hermano. Going to D. R. For the weekend with the boys, we always have a ball no matter what. Stay well![/QUOTE]By all means, I wasn't meaning to post the number of orgasms as some sort of conquest. I thought it might be valuable information for others to guage if the girl was a dead fish or really enjoyed being with me.

I take no offense and I thought your comment was funny.

Hey all you swingin dicks or stationary dicks for that matter, I'm off to cartagena. I arrive Monday, so if anyone has any requests as for as info you would like me to get, drop me a line.

Thats all for now, off to the land of tits for money!

Hi all.

I am in CTG. I promise some interesting report from here, MDE and BOG once I have time (after my return). In the meanwhile, I have a question for expert regulars of the place.

Yesterday, on my first night here, I went to Queens. A small group of girls, mostly nice, some really attractive.

I chatted with one (10k my first drink, 16k my second! 16k her drink! I am used to BOG and MDE prices and this really hurted me) and she told me 200k for her but there is 70k exit fee to pay to Queens (multa). She told me that the multa is mandatory and for everyone. No way to avoid, because I met her there.

I NEVER paid any multa in CTG in my life. Only once, years ago, I was asked to pay it exiting Queens with a girl. I laughed back "you can keep her here" and then they left me go with the girl without paying.

My question to expert regulars: is that true? Now Queens (LDV?) introduced the multa system? Since when?

Or this was just a scam attempt?

Please help me to understand.

Thanks all.

PS: No, I did not pay. I will write what I did in my report.

Queen always has had a house fee. It has been that way from day one.

All the casas or bars where the girls live charge an exit fee. The fee ranges from 200,000 at Rosario house to 60,000 at Lindas chicas. LDV is for free lance chicas that have an apartment or hotel room. On my last trip the asking price was 3-400,000 there and they would go for 120-160,000 short time in your apartment. At the casas there is always Paradiso with rooms on premises (nicest in Cartagena) for 150,000 to 200,000. The newest I have been to is Linda chicas. There are 3 bars/casas in a row that the locals use with Liondas chicas being the best, maaany chicas, some jewels. On site is 90,000 for 30 minutes or 60,000 exit fee and 200,000 for the chica all night. I am told that the locals pay less, maybe we need to do bait and switch. Pleyboy always has a good selection but is overpriced, even by Cartagena prices. Comparing Cartagena to Medellin or Bogota for price will give you sticker shock. Go to the playa during the day, get numbers from the casa chicas when you are there. Usually they are free during the day and negotable on price. Lindas chicas is fuckin loud, crowded with locals on Friday/Saturday night. Try it at 8 P.M. on Monday-Thursday, imho.

I'm right behind you, Thursday can't get here quick enough.

[QUOTE=Aba Corrado]Hey all you swingin dicks or stationary dicks for that matter, I'm off to cartagena. I arrive Monday, so if anyone has any requests as for as info you would like me to get, drop me a line.

Thats all for now, off to the land of tits for money![/QUOTE]

Hi,

For 750-1000 USD per month for a one month rental what level of accomodation can one expect in Cartegenga? I'm looking for luxury and location over size? Thanks.

If anyone is intertested in sharing a very nice place for the month of October please let me know.

DD

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69]Queen always has had a house fee. It has been that way from day one.[/QUOTE]Believe it or not, but I NEVER paid a multa at Queens. In past years, I took some girls from there. This year, I simply changed club.

Maybe in the past girls paid the multa from their pocket and I did not know.

It is my first report after reading so many from other posters. I am 38 and very picky regarding women beauty and after 24 h in Cartagena I think that potential is there but you have to know what are you doing and to have some luck.

My first night:

I ended up in Bananas or something llike that (El Centro) through a local guy who took me there while I was touring and enjoying old city. Around 9 pm they had 3-4 girls and one that I really liked (what a nice surprise) and soon I was on my way to El Laguito where I am located. Deal was 200k TLN and I paid everything to a bar owner or manager in front of the girl, how much she got I don't know and I gave 20k to a local guy and 10k for girls taxi back.

Girl was very friendly (I can't remember name, shame on me) and nice looking on a taller side. Really, she had great attitude lot of kissing, smiling which I really enjoyed. Minus was CBJ and the second bigger minus was that after hour or so she started dressing and that was it. I mention to her that deal in a bar was for whole night but no big discussion from my part I let her go. She asked me would I like to see her tomorrow but I declined. I have to be honest I don't speak spanish and when you have other guy who translate for you these thing can happen. Still I paid 200k for a hour with really nice girl and I gave 20k to a guy who took me there as his "friend". Not the best deal ever, but at the end of the day I had great time with her. My point of view regarding money and girls is that I like to get best possible deal, but in same time quality (for my personal taste) is something that is really far more important than a good deal as long as I can afford.

After that around 23 30 I went to LDV and was so, so. About 15-20 girls girls but nothing to rave about. I bought a drink to one girl from Cali and had some chat only on her insisting, but I did not want to ask for a price, she wasn't my cup of the tea. I saw one blond with big tits nice thin body, but she left before I had chance to talk to her. At the end I didn't bring anything from LDV, but I'll check again, I guess you have to have some luck too.

Overal I have nice place as base (rented from Juan), lot of positive energy and I'll see how things are going to develop.

One more time thanks guys for all your postings!

[QUOTE=Riki 011]It is my first report after reading so many from other posters. I am 38 and very picky regarding women beauty and after 24 h in Cartagena I think that potential is there but you have to know what are you doing and to have some luck.

My first night:

I ended up in Bananas or something llike that (El Centro) through a local guy who took me there while I was touring and enjoying old city. Around 9 pm they had 3-4 girls and one that I really liked (what a nice surprise) and soon I was on my way to El Laguito where I am located. Deal was 200k TLN and I paid everything to a bar owner or manager in front of the girl, how much she got I don't know and I gave 20k to a local guy and 10k for girls taxi back.

Girl was very friendly (I can't remember name, shame on me) and nice looking on a taller side. Really, she had great attitude lot of kissing, smiling which I really enjoyed. Minus was CBJ and the second bigger minus was that after hour or so she started dressing and that was it. I mention to her that deal in a bar was for whole night but no big discussion from my part I let her go. She asked me would I like to see her tomorrow but I declined. I have to be honest I don't speak spanish and when you have other guy who translate for you these thing can happen. Still I paid 200k for a hour with really nice girl and I gave 20k to a guy who took me there as his "friend". Not the best deal ever, but at the end of the day I had great time with her. My point of view regarding money and girls is that I like to get best possible deal, but in same time quality (for my personal taste) is something that is really far more important than a good deal as long as I can afford.

After that around 23 30 I went to LDV and was so, so. About 15-20 girls girls but nothing to rave about. I bought a drink to one girl from Cali and had some chat only on her insisting, but I did not want to ask for a price, she wasn't my cup of the tea. I saw one blond with big tits nice thin body, but she left before I had chance to talk to her. At the end I didn't bring anything from LDV, but I'll check again, I guess you have to have some luck too.

Overal I have nice place as base (rented from Juan), lot of positive energy and I'll see how things are going to develop.

One more time thanks guys for all your postings![/QUOTE]After LDV closes head to the old city and go to Electra. You will find some real stunners there and don't pay more than 100K as at that time of the night the girls are kind of desperate and are looking to make milk money. I have seen my friend take a stone 9 out of there for 70K. Also don't even worry about TLN at that time of the night. Just get your one good pop out of a fine looking woman.

sorry, this is a long time coming. hopefully i can remember the details accurately.

i don't want to rehash any of the details that have already reported in previous tr so i will try to give my impressions and any salient updates.

my flights were on spirit. note that the exit taxes are now included in your ticket (i believe it is around $50). the taxes are almost as much as the actual airfare. you now have to pay a $3 tax upon departure; they take both dollars and cop. spirit now has new a320 aircraft; the seats on these new planes do not recline! yes, you heard me right. the new seats are "pre-clined" this is a euphemism for thinner padding and seats that no not move. this is not just the seats in front of the exits but every seat on the plane. the flight attendant confirmed that all of the new planes have this feature so they can squeeze extra rows in the aircraft. as i am 6'5" i chose to pay extra for the exit row and am damn glad i did. without the reclining feature i would have been shoehorned into a regular seat. given that spirit charges for carry on as well as checked luggage and for assigned seats i will fly aa next time.

leave plenty of time when departing. getting out of colombia is a lot harder than getting in. i was checked a total of thirteen times from the moment i entered the terminal until i entered the aircraft. this is not an exaggeration i actually counted each station after i entered the gate area. my passport was checked 4 times, my bags were x-rayed once, they were hand checked twice, and i was x-rayed once and patted down twice and questioned 3 x as to the nature of my visit and my destination. you need a solid 90 minutes to run this gauntlet.

if you plan on partying in your room (which i highly recommend especially if you have guests) buy your booze at the us duty free. in fll i was able to buy 1l (not 750ml) bottles of crown royal and baileys for $35 us. this was substantially cheaper than any place in ctg and much better than the local rot gut they sell. baileys is a huge hit with the chicas.

in ctg i was able to join tijuana and skippy. we had condos in del mar. the reservations were made with juan ventura. i had unit 902. it was ok for $75 per night but a little thread bare. tijuana and skippy had 302 (i think). this was vastly superior to my unit as it was recently updated with granite counters, newer furniture and flat screen tv. del mar is a perfect location. on the beach, a 5 minute walk to ldv and hollywood beach and a 10 minute cab to centro.

ldv. what more can i tell you that hasn't already been said. best nights would be thursday or friday. there is absolutely no reason to show up before 11pm and midnight is probably better. friday night they had a wet t shirt contest which was fun. drink prices are ok by us standards but i highly recommend buying a bottle of the local rum or whisky. they offer two sizes and include all of the mixers, ice and lime in the cost. this is a great way of offering women drinks without having them run amok ordering expensive drinks. our group generally went through 2 bottles a night (this included sharing with the local talent). prices seem to be consistent with previous reports. 150k cop for lt and 70k – 80k cop for short time. i would like to qualify those numbers by saying the women were 7-8+ on a scale of 10. 5-6-7 can be had for less. i have to admit i spent an inordinate amount of time working on 9s and 10s but could not get them below 200k for lt. in a few cases i spent so much time i went home alone since i was so tired at 3 am i didn't have the energy to start the process over again. maybe 10+ cuba libras had something to do with it.

when i did go home alone i was able to find the street urchins across from del mar to be available for 40-50k cop. be careful with them as some are ****. one showed me what appeared to be a valid id but the door guard at del mar told me it was fake.

since the bars, discos and ldv don't get started until the wee hours energy conservation is critical. ctg is very hot and will sap your energy especially if you spend a lot of time walking centro or the beaches. i found it helpful to nap after dinner until about 10 or 11pm. additionally, i found those 5 hour energy drinks to be very helpful. i am not shilling for them but a shot around 10 or 11pm gave me the boost i needed.

strange observation for our jewish monger brothers (boy that is a weird sentence). many of the women i met were learning hebrew. apparently, there has been an influx of visitors from israel and the women want to accommodate them. we saw many stars of david and our guide wore one on his neck.

centro. this is a beautiful part of the city. it reminds me of a cross between the french quarter in n. o. and an old city in europe. very narrow streets with boutiques and high end restaurants. it is very walk able and very safe. we didn't have much time to hit the discos and clubs in centro because we like the sure thing at ldv. we did wander into isis which is a small bar with local talent. skippy had eyes for a beautiful colombiana and stayed when tijuana and i decided this was not the place for us and went to ldv. about an hour later skippy joined us at ldv and told us that they whacked him for $300k for our beers, the girl's drinks and a bar fine to take her out. this was on top of the $300k cop she wanted for st. needless to say we never returned to centro for takeout.

bottom line; ctg is a beautiful city with great culture and history. the beaches suck. the women are hot. the weather is hotter. language was not much of a barrier but spanish does help with negotiations. anyone in the tourism business will be competent in english.

I started going to Cartagena several years ago and usually ended up at the LDV most nights. I really disliked the ear splitting music as did most of the chicas and other gringos there. The obvious question to me is why play it so loud? The air quality is also really bad which would probably cost them money to clean up so I don't expect that to change anytime soon.

Devo

I would be grateful for suggestions to a traveller who wants to avoid the "pick up" scene and is not price sensitive. Are there reliable escort services in which you can arrange for someone to visit an upscale hotel rather than going to a bar? I read warnings here that arrangements in advance for extended or overnight visits are risky. I am visiting the weekend of Oct 8th and will post a report even if I strike out. All advice welcome.

I personally like the music there and the decimal at which it is played., what are you talking about when you say the air quality? As far as what?

[QUOTE=Devoman]I started going to Cartagena several years ago and usually ended up at the LDV most nights. I really disliked the ear splitting music as did most of the chicas and other gringos there. The obvious question to me is why play it so loud? The air quality is also really bad which would probably cost them money to clean up so I don't expect that to change anytime soon.

Devo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can]I personally like the music there and the decimal at which it is played., what are you talking about when you say the air quality? As far as what?[/QUOTE]I think you mean Decibel level. Most of us go to the LDV to meet chicas. It is very difficult for us or the chica to have a conversation when the music is too loud never mind the language barrier. For those who want a loud dance club there are other options there. In terms of air quality I mean smoke plus the club gets way too hot especially for a place that is steaming during the daytime.

Devo

[QUOTE=Devoman]I started going to Cartagena several years ago and usually ended up at the LDV most nights. I really disliked the ear splitting music as did most of the chicas and other gringos there. The obvious question to me is why play it so loud? The air quality is also really bad which would probably cost them money to clean up so I don't expect that to change anytime soon.

Devo[/QUOTE]Devo, As you know LDV is shooting fish in a barrel so you have to put up with the music and environment. The alternatives are very expensive discos or bars with a fair chance you will come home empty handed. Just decide what is more important pussy or being able to hear when you are 60.

[QUOTE=Resortweek]I would be grateful for suggestions to a traveller who wants to avoid the "pick up" scene and is not price sensitive. Are there reliable escort services in which you can arrange for someone to visit an upscale hotel rather than going to a bar? I read warnings here that arrangements in advance for extended or overnight visits are risky. I am visiting the weekend of Oct 8th and will post a report even if I strike out. All advice welcome.[/QUOTE]Escort services are pretty sparce in CTG also the cost is crazy compared to what you will find in LDV or discos.

If you want a hotty for more than one night invest a few hours at LDV and negotiate for the rest of your trip. You will find the price per day is pretty cheap and you will never have to set foot in LDV. Think of LDV as an interview location. You get to check out the talent and talk to them and see if the are right for you.

Why would you want to do that? All you have to do is stay in Laguita and walk one block to LDV and pick up a girl who you like.

Sure it could be a problem ordering a girl for an over night, you could possibly have no chemistry together and it would suck for both of you. Believe me if a colombian girl doesn't like you I have found out they will tell you they don't want to spend time with you. I have witnessed it many times in LDV over the years.

I understand everybody is different or has different ideas in there head, but there are all different shapes and sizes in LDV, especially with your not price sensitive comment. Although lets not ruin the curve all to gether here. Why spend 300cop when you can spend 150, 000? I'm sure you could pick one up. Good luck and maybe some of these guys know of a reliable service but I can't imagine that many people using one when like I said you walk out your front door and there all over the place.

Good Luck

[QUOTE=Resortweek]I would be grateful for suggestions to a traveller who wants to avoid the "pick up" scene and is not price sensitive. Are there reliable escort services in which you can arrange for someone to visit an upscale hotel rather than going to a bar? I read warnings here that arrangements in advance for extended or overnight visits are risky. I am visiting the weekend of Oct 8th and will post a report even if I strike out. All advice welcome.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Resortweek]I would be grateful for suggestions to a traveller who wants to avoid the "pick up" scene and is not price sensitive. Are there reliable escort services in which you can arrange for someone to visit an upscale hotel rather than going to a bar? I read warnings here that arrangements in advance for extended or overnight visits are risky. I am visiting the weekend of Oct 8th and will post a report even if I strike out. All advice welcome. [/ Very hard to Strike Out in Cartagena. Not even Ray Charles could do that. Jajajajaja

[QUOTE=Riki 011]It is my first report after reading so many from other posters. I am 38 and very picky regarding women beauty and after 24 h in Cartagena I think that potential is there but you have to know what are you doing and to have some luck.

My first night:

I ended up in Bananas or something llike that (El Centro) through a local guy who took me there while I was touring and enjoying old city. Around 9 pm they had 3-4 girls and one that I really liked (what a nice surprise) and soon I was on my way to El Laguito where I am located. Deal was 200k TLN and I paid everything to a bar owner or manager in front of the girl, how much she got I don't know and I gave 20k to a local guy and 10k for girls taxi back.

Girl was very friendly (I can't remember name, shame on me) and nice looking on a taller side. Really, she had great attitude lot of kissing, smiling which I really enjoyed. Minus was CBJ and the second bigger minus was that after hour or so she started dressing and that was it. I mention to her that deal in a bar was for whole night but no big discussion from my part I let her go. She asked me would I like to see her tomorrow but I declined. I have to be honest I don't speak spanish and when you have other guy who translate for you these thing can happen. Still I paid 200k for a hour with really nice girl and I gave 20k to a guy who took me there as his "friend". Not the best deal ever, but at the end of the day I had great time with her. My point of view regarding money and girls is that I like to get best possible deal, but in same time quality (for my personal taste) is something that is really far more important than a good deal as long as I can afford.

After that around 23 30 I went to LDV and was so, so. About 15-20 girls girls but nothing to rave about. I bought a drink to one girl from Cali and had some chat only on her insisting, but I did not want to ask for a price, she wasn't my cup of the tea. I saw one blond with big tits nice thin body, but she left before I had chance to talk to her. At the end I didn't bring anything from LDV, but I'll check again, I guess you have to have some luck too.

Overal I have nice place as base (rented from Juan), lot of positive energy and I'll see how things are going to develop.

One more time thanks guys for all your postings![/QUOTE]Hey Rikki,

What is the set up like in Banannas Cafe?

How many girls were working that night?

Was there a short light brown skinned girlwith a very pretty face working?

Her name is Joanna.

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Here is how went day 2

I left my place around 21h and I was walking all the way to the cafe del mar and I didn't see any street action. Cafe del mar was quiet (beer 6. 5k what was ok price) but I conected to two girls who came for a drink on their own and I realize after one of the girl was on the phone that they are most likley comombians what was prooven right. They were 6-7 nothing special (normally they are all working girls) and they askied me if I am for some dancing which I confirmed and very quick we are of to Candela. Entrance 10k for me total 30k. Inside one girl met old love and I was left with one girl which was ok to dance with but not for apartment. Candela is fine place but lot of girls were alredy with somebody what is really problem if you are single. After my girl started asking me for a money and sex I was on my way out to LDV.

LDV was much busier than last night and I had chance to meet the owner which is ok from my stand point, some chat and total respect. There were all kind of girls, but not to many above 7. One girl that I was atracted (Alejandra with big tits and big brown eyes, very fit but not the friendlies, look like experience pro which was turn off) was very firm on 250k for a hour and I didn't want to pay that. The other girl from Medellin was asking 200k for 2 hours, she was more friendly with nice face and tits, but lover part was litlle bit hevier and because I stuck on 150k which would be fine I think if one local guy didn't pick her up. Overal I am going empty handed second night in a row, but on my way to apartment I decided that I can go to Elektra and check that place, it was about 2:30.

Elektra is for me better than LDV because it is total after hour place were all masks are off, time is runing out and chance for girl to make money is getting slimer and slimer in one word no b. S. Beside bunch of girl from LDV there were some other girls which was refreshing. Total of maybe 20 girls no cover and beer is I think very close if not the same as in LDV. I picked one girl Joleanis from Medellin very model type just not that tall and she was very hot, at least for me personally. Elektra is very dark and it is hard after so many beers to see very good and juged the talent. After whole night of negotiation I was happy to see girl that ask me straight 150k for the rest of the night (it was past 3 am) which I didn't try to bargain. Once we got to apartment she was as advertised nice personality, with less restriction than last night BBBJ and CIM was offered without hesitation or asking from my part. Around six she left and today we set up date for 4 pm no details discussed, because I was thinking somebody for afternoon would be nice and she can still go tonight to work tonight.

Last night damage was Cafe del Mar 30k (my for beers picked up girls on a way out), Candela 40k (3 covers and one beer for my girl I took a rest there), LDV 40k (3 beers and one Margarita), Elegtra 25k (3 beers and pizza), taxi 35k and girl 150k in total 320k or somethin less than 200us what is not bed for a whole night of drinking, partying and finished with nice ice on the cake.

At the end I would mentioned that I was stoped by police once in a taxi, but no issues just control no money asked.

So far so good we will see what will bring next day.

Ok just to mention for Bananas. It is small place and it was quiet, I was the only guy inside and I stayed there only 20-30minutes. I saw 4 girls and one that I hook up was from Baranquilla, 26 years (what she told me), fairly tall, long black hair, pretty face and excellent body with nice tits. I am sorry I can't recall the name, usually problem with me. I will posted pic when I get back home.

day 3

as i mention in day 2 report i ended up with girl from elektra, jolianus. she showed interest to see me today and after positive experience i had i confirmed. during the day can be boring if you are single guy traveler, without spanish language and no prearranged dates with some chicas. i arranged date for 4 pm, before that why not go to the beach and see what is going on there.

beach was surprise me in couple of ways. first i couldn't found famous tony even i think that i pick right location in front of dann. i had chance to meet other guy who rented me chair and he told me that tony is gone and that now he is the guy. normally he instantly asked me for a chair 3k and offered me beer which i accepted just because i saw one beautiful girl and he was spouse to be the guy for connection. he was asking 30k, i had 20k which i gave them right a way (my mistake, but just to know i like gambling with amount that is affordable to loose like in this case 10-12$ for something that on the other side, like that beautiful girl, is worth a risk). he told me that she is with family and that tomorrow will be everything arranged and in same time he was offering me some other girls that i really never been interested at all. to finish whole story i will add part from day 4 because i just got back from the beach girl is there with family again and extra problem is she has 17 years and no deal can be done, she didn't mention that very important moment yesterday. i like girls but i would never ever try to go **** and he is using yhat information as a excuse. now we have no deal and 20k in his pocket for nothing. i mention them about money and he was at first very straightforward like i asked girl it is not my problem that things didn't go right way. i just mention them on my broken almost nonexistent spanish that it is not correct without trying to get into deeper discussion. he started little bit changing story like he will hook me up with other girls if i find any that i like and then i will give them another 10k. i was disappointed not because 20k, but because he is not the guy that you can rely on and it would be nice to have guy like that. he is classic salesmen who thinks just about today and not tomorrow, but much more bed news for me is my dream girl will stayed just a dream. this story i wrote into the details not for me crying for 20k (that i will maybe recover) it is rather for some other people to know with who potentially will have to deal.

it is time to get back to apartment and get ready for my new "girlfriend". while i was getting ready and putting everything in right order i was thinking how to have good time and what to except with my "como esta" spanish. i decided to let her lead stuff and i will do only some correction if necessary. she showed up right on time, nice surprise, in thigh jeans and nice sexy t-shirt. very tiny constitution, but with nice face and beautiful color skin that you get after one week vacation. beginning was easy to script couple drinks (she is not to much in alcohol, quite interested) time for good round, i tried my best and she seemed enjoyed again bbj and cim offered without asking. now what we going to do cinema, restaurant, walk and she decided it is time to get some food, but i added request some very nice place if is possible. we wanted to go first to mexican restaurant but ended up in one restaurant which is definitely on higher side, but nothing to rave about. it is outside of the old city but closer to airport, again my memory can't recall name of the place, but i remember somehow that bill was 108k pesos. again 60 bucks in north america will not take you to that type of places. we had a good time and i have to think that she enjoyed even more than me, because of treatment that i provided to her and i am fine with that i like to be gentleman to nice and respectful ladies. after we went to bocagrande for a coffee to juan valdes (i enjoy their coffee with milk much more than any other coffee in n. america, just a personal references) and because was very humid we decided to go back to my apartment.

on fx they had ironman what was good because i never seen movie before and she seemed to enjoyed too. one round for the end and it is time to call end of the day. before leaving we chat little about my and her look on our relation, because i explained that my vacation should be mixed as much as possible and that our time together is just a part of my vacation. she agree and hopefully day 4 will bring some her girlfriends to my aprtment for a small evening party. regarding money she got big plus i never ask how much for a time she never asked too, no sad stories about family problems etc. i gave her 100k and she sad that money is not object (or i would say rather not main object), she enjoying spending time with me, but no pressure and obligation. what else you can ask, after three days you have nice chick to hang around and still be able to explore new opportunities.

she left around 1:15am and i was thinking it is not bad idea to jump to ldv for a beer or two and see what is available. i saw 20-30 girls at least but not many over 7 and not to many guys maybe 6-7. in one word i wasn't impress and decided to officially call end of the day 3.

[QUOTE=Riki 011]Here is how went day 2

I left my place around 21h and I was walking all the way to the cafe del mar and I didn't see any street action. Cafe del mar was quiet (beer 6. 5k what was ok price) but I conected to two girls who came for a drink on their own and I realize after one of the girl was on the phone that they are most likley comombians what was prooven right. They were 6-7 nothing special (normally they are all working girls) and they askied me if I am for some dancing which I confirmed and very quick we are of to Candela. Entrance 10k for me total 30k. Inside one girl met old love and I was left with one girl which was ok to dance with but not for apartment. Candela is fine place but lot of girls were alredy with somebody what is really problem if you are single. After my girl started asking me for a money and sex I was on my way out to LDV.

LDV was much busier than last night and I had chance to meet the owner which is ok from my stand point, some chat and total respect. There were all kind of girls, but not to many above 7. One girl that I was atracted (Alejandra with big tits and big brown eyes, very fit but not the friendlies, look like experience pro which was turn off) was very firm on 250k for a hour and I didn't want to pay that. The other girl from Medellin was asking 200k for 2 hours, she was more friendly with nice face and tits, but lover part was litlle bit hevier and because I stuck on 150k which would be fine I think if one local guy didn't pick her up. Overal I am going empty handed second night in a row, but on my way to apartment I decided that I can go to Elektra and check that place, it was about 2:30.

Elektra is for me better than LDV because it is total after hour place were all masks are off, time is runing out and chance for girl to make money is getting slimer and slimer in one word no b. S. Beside bunch of girl from LDV there were some other girls which was refreshing. Total of maybe 20 girls no cover and beer is I think very close if not the same as in LDV. I picked one girl Joleanis from Medellin very model type just not that tall and she was very hot, at least for me personally. Elektra is very dark and it is hard after so many beers to see very good and juged the talent. After whole night of negotiation I was happy to see girl that ask me straight 150k for the rest of the night (it was past 3 am) which I didn't try to bargain. Once we got to apartment she was as advertised nice personality, with less restriction than last night BBBJ and CIM was offered without hesitation or asking from my part. Around six she left and today we set up date for 4 pm no details discussed, because I was thinking somebody for afternoon would be nice and she can still go tonight to work tonight.

Last night damage was Cafe del Mar 30k (my for beers picked up girls on a way out), Candela 40k (3 covers and one beer for my girl I took a rest there), LDV 40k (3 beers and one Margarita), Elegtra 25k (3 beers and pizza), taxi 35k and girl 150k in total 320k or somethin less than 200us what is not bed for a whole night of drinking, partying and finished with nice ice on the cake.

At the end I would mentioned that I was stoped by police once in a taxi, but no issues just control no money asked.

So far so good we will see what will bring next day.

Ok just to mention for Bananas. It is small place and it was quiet, I was the only guy inside and I stayed there only 20-30minutes. I saw 4 girls and one that I hook up was from Baranquilla, 26 years (what she told me), fairly tall, long black hair, pretty face and excellent body with nice tits. I am sorry I can't recall the name, usually problem with me. I will posted pic when I get back home.[/QUOTE]Hey Riki,

I think I know who you are talking about if she is from Barranquilla. Her name is Laura Vanessa or Karina they are both from Baranquilla. Was there a third girl around named Joanna. She is friends with the both of them. She is short light brown with a pretty face. Let me know.

Thanks!

[quote=riki 011]day 3

as i mention in day 2 report i ended up with girl from elektra, jolianus. she showed interest to see me today and after positive experience i had i confirmed. during the day can be boring if you are single guy traveler, without spanish language and no prearranged dates with some chicas. i arranged date for 4 pm, before that why not go to the beach and see what is going on there.

beach was surprise me in couple of ways. first i couldn't found famous tony even i think that i pick right location in front of dann. i had chance to meet other guy who rented me chair and he told me that tony is gone and that now he is the guy. normally he instantly asked me for a chair 3k and offered me beer which i accepted just because i saw one beautiful girl and he was spouse to be the guy for connection. he was asking 30k, i had 20k which i gave them right a way (my mistake, but just to know i like gambling with amount that is affordable to loose like in this case 10-12$ for something that on the other side, like that beautiful girl, is worth a risk)..[/quote]Riki,

i am glad you are having a good time. you did the smart thing by creating a relationship with the girl from ldv. if you spend time to talk, go to dinner, spend some time watching a movie goes a long way with girls because you are treating them as a normal girlfriend and not a hooker. you will get a few freebies this way.

as for tony, he was there two weeks ago, but he was not feeling well. he had some issues with his stomach and was taking medication. he was not there one day i went to the beach and the next day he was looking for me to make up for lost time.

enjoy the rest of your stay.

[QUOTE=Riki 011]Here is how went day 2

I left my place around 21h and I was walking all the way to the cafe del mar and I didn't see any street action. Cafe del mar was quiet (beer 6. 5k what was ok price) but I conected to two girls who came for a drink on their own and I realize after one of the girl was on the phone that they are most likley comombians what was prooven right. They were 6-7 nothing special (normally they are all working girls) and they askied me if I am for some dancing which I confirmed and very quick we are of to Candela. Entrance 10k for me total 30k. Inside one girl met old love and I was left with one girl which was ok to dance with but not for apartment. Candela is fine place but lot of girls were alredy with somebody what is really problem if you are single. After my girl started asking me for a money and sex I was on my way out to LDV.

LDV was much busier than last night and I had chance to meet the owner which is ok from my stand point, some chat and total respect. There were all kind of girls, but not to many above 7. One girl that I was atracted (Alejandra with big tits and big brown eyes, very fit but not the friendlies, look like experience pro which was turn off) was very firm on 250k for a hour and I didn't want to pay that. The other girl from Medellin was asking 200k for 2 hours, she was more friendly with nice face and tits, but lover part was litlle bit hevier and because I stuck on 150k which would be fine I think if one local guy didn't pick her up. Overal I am going empty handed second night in a row, but on my way to apartment I decided that I can go to Elektra and check that place, it was about 2:30.

Elektra is for me better than LDV because it is total after hour place were all masks are off, time is runing out and chance for girl to make money is getting slimer and slimer in one word no b. S. Beside bunch of girl from LDV there were some other girls which was refreshing. Total of maybe 20 girls no cover and beer is I think very close if not the same as in LDV. I picked one girl Joleanis from Medellin very model type just not that tall and she was very hot, at least for me personally. Elektra is very dark and it is hard after so many beers to see very good and juged the talent. After whole night of negotiation I was happy to see girl that ask me straight 150k for the rest of the night (it was past 3 am) which I didn't try to bargain. Once we got to apartment she was as advertised nice personality, with less restriction than last night BBBJ and CIM was offered without hesitation or asking from my part. Around six she left and today we set up date for 4 pm no details discussed, because I was thinking somebody for afternoon would be nice and she can still go tonight to work tonight.

Last night damage was Cafe del Mar 30k (my for beers picked up girls on a way out), Candela 40k (3 covers and one beer for my girl I took a rest there), LDV 40k (3 beers and one Margarita), Elegtra 25k (3 beers and pizza), taxi 35k and girl 150k in total 320k or somethin less than 200us what is not bed for a whole night of drinking, partying and finished with nice ice on the cake.

At the end I would mentioned that I was stoped by police once in a taxi, but no issues just control no money asked.

So far so good we will see what will bring next day.

Ok just to mention for Bananas. It is small place and it was quiet, I was the only guy inside and I stayed there only 20-30minutes. I saw 4 girls and one that I hook up was from Baranquilla, 26 years (what she told me), fairly tall, long black hair, pretty face and excellent body with nice tits. I am sorry I can't recall the name, usually problem with me. I will posted pic when I get back home.[/QUOTE]Man how times have changed

I remember in the day you could pull a beach girl ST for 50K, LDV TLN for 80-100K and beers were 1K. Juans Apartments were 50 bucks and requisimos was 4 bucks for a steak. I still go there some but am looking at less expensive places as CTG is getting as expensive as Miami. Too many high rollers with the "fuck, I am on vacation, so let's spread the $$$$$ around". You guys know how to fuck every place up you ever land on. Not talking about you Ricki011, just rollers in general.

I am new here, but a member of another board. I am looking for a taxi driver that knows the casas, bars, and chicas. I would like to find someone reasonable and can speak English.

Can any one help me with a reasonable 3some? Price and dfk and BBBJ are important.

Thanks, I leave Sunday for Cartagena.

Reports were that elektra was a buyers market. This hasn't been so for me. Still 150k pesos and a shit ton more guys. They still leave after a couple of hours only its daylight out when they do. The selection this trip at LDV hasnt been as great either, but it definitely beats the alternative. Tony nmber one is still around, hasn't died or gone to Venezuela. Hes tryin to charge me 30k to introduce a girl, on top of beers and chairs. FUCk! A couple chicks at LDV went for 120k-140k but thats as low as they go, tried to play hardball with one, she was at the elevator door the next second don't think she was negotiating just leaving. I had to go get her and paid 150k. Bueno suerte!

[QUOTE=Aba Corrado]Reports were that elektra was a buyers market. This hasn't been so for me. Still 150k pesos and a shit ton more guys. They still leave after a couple of hours only its daylight out when they do. The selection this trip at LDV hasnt been as great either, but it definitely beats the alternative. Tony nmber one is still around, hasn't died or gone to Venezuela. Hes tryin to charge me 30k to introduce a girl, on top of beers and chairs. FUCk! A couple chicks at LDV went for 120k-140k but thats as low as they go, tried to play hardball with one, she was at the elevator door the next second don't think she was negotiating just leaving. I had to go get her and paid 150k. Bueno suerte![/QUOTE]A few months ago I spent some time in CTG and after dealing with Tony on other trips it now appears that he is now off the hook. Two guys from the USA that were with our group almost had a fist fight with him. With me he was begging for drinks and beside him over charging me he then wanted a tip.

If I return to CTG it will not be on his beach.

i was there for a week about a month ago. only just got around to writing my trip report.

i've been to ctg maybe 5 or 6 times before. i stayed in el laguito which i must say looks like a shithole these days with all the roadworks going on. the weather was shit too, raining for 4 or 5 days out of the 7. i don't really have anything different to report, but here goes.

i began most of my nights at ldv. it's certainly more expensive these days than it used to be, but then again if you're coming to ctg you have to accept the fact that this isn't pattaya or angeles city anymore. it's much more expensive.

having said all that, i would still say that ldv is probably the best freelancer place in the world in terms of average quality. i'm reasonable well-travelled and have a good base to judge it by:

helpeee (rip)/balcony in brazil
escape/fenwicks/neptunes in hk
dds in macau
everydamnplace in bangkok and pattaya
la cafe in manila
newports in buenos aires
etc etc

anyway, you get the point. although ldv is more expensive than it used to be, it's still jam packed full of 7s-10s and that's pretty damn fine and rare in my not-so-humble-opinion.

colombian girls are a special breed. they are uniquely beautiful but they won't approach you, even in a putaria such as ldv you need to make the first move! on the rare occasions you're approached you can be sure it's by the hardest of pros and usually the ugliest too.

as you've heard a million times before, don't go to ldv too early. i don't get there before midnight. at about 3am the ladies make their slow way to elektra which is owned by the same guy. the formula goes like this:

elektra = ldv + more_noise + more_italians_and_israelis + more_girls_from_other_putarias

the girl: boy ratio is probably slightly less in our favour in elektra, but don't be put off by this. the italians and israelis seem to go to elektra and not ldv but on the whole they don't seem to like to pay, so don't see them as competition. (sorry if you're italian or israeli but this is the consensus of opinion from the girls).

it's not just the girls from ldv that go to elektra, also the girls from isis, queens, tu candela etc. so it's worth going even if you've struck out at ldv.

i went to isis also, which is a strip-joint/brothel. sat there on my own for 30 minutes, no-one spoke to me, girls no better than ldv but fewer clothes. had previously read on isg that it's pretty expensive so didn't really see the point. then again, you could always get some numbers and they become some daytime options. and you really need daytime options in ctg because not much is going on sex-wise during the day other than tony no 1.

tu candela is a challenge. it's ostensibly a non-pro place. however, once you've been to ldv/elektra a few times and begin to know the faces of the girls that go there you'll soon notice that there are lots and lots of those girls in tu candela. but you do need to be discrete and not treat it like a putaria which it certainly isn't.

if you're staying in laguito there's usually a few girls roaming around looking for company. in particular, there's the famous mirador girls; claudia et al.

i've never really been to any casas in ctg. anyone care to recommend some daytime casas?

that's it for now.

Have been in Cartagena for nearly 3 months. Still here!

Been to LVD several times, talent there is pretty damn good in my experience. You can basically choose who-ever you want and go from there. 150 to 200 COP seemed to be the going rate for all nighter. Most of the girls I met there were very cool and fun to hangout with. Just got to weed out the real pro, money grabbers, asking for stupid money who want to fuck and run.

One night took 3 girls home around midnight and partied till dawn at my place. They then stay most of the next day too. Watch the girls at the bar over-charging for drinks.

First night I went it was 10, 000 for a rum and coke, next week they wanted 15, 000? Best just buy a bottle, even better, get one of the girls to buy you bottle!

Went once to PlayClub, hot girls, pretty dark and smokey and very expensive. Didn't sample any girls from there.

Went to Ligueros one Sunday night, no-one was there except me and 15 girls. One especially hot, had a few drinks with her, paid the multa (bar fine) and took her home, went to a couple of bars on the way and had a good time.

Isis was expensive but nice place, as of a few weeks ago there were a couple of good 10's in there. Got a couple of numbers and called girls the next day. One came and stayed a couple of days, paid her for one night, next day we got so wrecked drinking on the beach she stayed another night and day, just had to pay her 100, 000 bar fine.

Bananas was a spot I liked, a couple of sexy girls in there, that were pretty fun.

I just took their phone numbers and called them the next day to avoid bar fine. Those girls are not tied to the bar either (like isis), so they are free at nights too if they don't want to go to work at bananas they don't have to.

Elektra. Been a couple of times and always regreted it the next day, getting home at 6am is a killer.

I just hate the tourist touts in the old city. Basically full of shit and don't seem to understand NO. Avoid them at all costs.

LDV is my favourite by far.

[QUOTE=Vics Picks]A few months ago I spent some time in CTG and after dealing with Tony on other trips it now appears that he is now off the hook. Two guys from the USA that were with our group almost had a fist fight with him. With me he was begging for drinks and beside him over charging me he then wanted a tip.

If I return to CTG it will not be on his beach.[/QUOTE]Tony only over charges you if you let him. Search this board, get the prices that you should pay and tell HIM what you are willing to pay, it really is that simple. Once he knows he can't get over on you he will back off to a degree. He can be an asset for daytime action if you need or want it but again you need to know what price point you are looking for and tell him that, keeping in mind that you will get what you pay for if you aren't willing to pay a reasonable price. And never give Tony your phone number.

Hey Beer Bob,

How is Banannas Cafe?

Was there a girl working there named neidyor joanna. She's a sweet girl!

[QUOTE=Beer Can Bob]Have been in Cartagena for nearly 3 months. Still here!

Been to LVD several times, talent there is pretty damn good in my experience. You can basically choose who-ever you want and go from there. 150 to 200 COP seemed to be the going rate for all nighter. Most of the girls I met there were very cool and fun to hangout with. Just got to weed out the real pro, money grabbers, asking for stupid money who want to fuck and run.

One night took 3 girls home around midnight and partied till dawn at my place. They then stay most of the next day too. Watch the girls at the bar over-charging for drinks.

First night I went it was 10, 000 for a rum and coke, next week they wanted 15, 000? Best just buy a bottle, even better, get one of the girls to buy you bottle!

Went once to PlayClub, hot girls, pretty dark and smokey and very expensive. Didn't sample any girls from there.

Went to Ligueros one Sunday night, no-one was there except me and 15 girls. One especially hot, had a few drinks with her, paid the multa (bar fine) and took her home, went to a couple of bars on the way and had a good time.

Isis was expensive but nice place, as of a few weeks ago there were a couple of good 10's in there. Got a couple of numbers and called girls the next day. One came and stayed a couple of days, paid her for one night, next day we got so wrecked drinking on the beach she stayed another night and day, just had to pay her 100, 000 bar fine.

Bananas was a spot I liked, a couple of sexy girls in there, that were pretty fun.

I just took their phone numbers and called them the next day to avoid bar fine. Those girls are not tied to the bar either (like isis), so they are free at nights too if they don't want to go to work at bananas they don't have to.

Elektra. Been a couple of times and always regreted it the next day, getting home at 6am is a killer.

I just hate the tourist touts in the old city. Basically full of shit and don't seem to understand NO. Avoid them at all costs.

LDV is my favourite by far.[/QUOTE]

Didn't meet her when I was there.

I liked it cause it was wasnt full of people, the girls were friendly and you could smoke in the bar, a couple of the girls even arguing with the bartender when he tried to over-charge me. Only a handful of girls, a couple from Cali, and the rest costenas.

And if you did it right you even skip the bar fine. Cellphone helps

One night I went in there with a girl who worked there part-time, had been hangin out all day, when we went to leave one of the annoying touts followed us yelling that I had to pay fine. Didn't have to as I came in there with her. Followed us up the road trying to get money out of me. Even tried telling me the hotel I was staying would accept girls and I should go to his recommended hotel. Full of shit as this girl had been in and out the hotel the previous night and day. Never a problem.

A few choice words and he got the picture.

Going back to CTG with an experienced monger friend and two newbies to the hobby. Staying in Laguito again. Have not been there for 2 years and a lot can change in 2 years. Have been spending my monger time in the PI lately but have decided to give up the English speaking quantity of ladies in favor of the higher quality and am heading back to Colombia.

Never been to CTG in early December. Hoping the rainy weather is coming to an end and we get some beach and sun.

Questions:

My pal tells me there is an ATM in the airport. I do not recall seeing one last time. I only noticed the money exchange which is always a rip off. Is there an ATM in the CTG airport and if so, where is it.

I remember an ATM in Laguito on the beach side of the street by an ice cream shop. Is this one still there? I also remember an ATM in Boca Grande inside some bank building.

Just hoping one of you who has been there recently can update me on the locations of ATM's in Laguito since our flight arrives late the evening 10: 30 PM our first night and will need an ATM to get some local cash to start the party.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Pussyluver]....I remember an ATM in Laguito on the beach side of the street by an ice cream shop. Is this one still there? I also remember an ATM in Boca Grande inside some bank building.

Just hoping one of you who has been there recently can update me on the locations of ATM's in Laguito since our flight arrives late the evening 10: 30 PM our first night and will need an ATM to get some local cash to start the party.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes, there are 4 ATMs located inside the airport next to the Avianca ticket counter. After you get your checked bags from the baggage carosel and then clear the final security checkpoint to walk outside on the curb, you'll want to turn to your left to start walking so you can enter back into the airport facility. Walk 20 yards or so and go back inside. Once inside, keep walking that same direction another 50 yards or so. Over to your far left just before the Avianca ticket counter will be 4 ATM machines. Both the Servibanca and Santader machines will spit out 20 mil peso bills. The BBVA machine will give you 50's. If you are even with the Avianca ticket/checkin counter, then you've walked just a little too far.

Last time I checked, the machine in Laguito that you are asking about was taken out or wasn't in service. In Laguito, you'll find an ATM inside the Hilton (typically spits out 50's) and one inside La Perla Casino (next to LDV) that is a Servibanca machine. You'll find many machines at various bank locations in Bocagrande, as well as a Servibanca machine inside the Olympica supermarket in Bocagrande.

Yes, there are several ATMs at CTG airport. There are some on left-hand side as you check in to Avianca, but there are probably lots more.

There are 2 ATMs in El Laguito as of two weeks ago. One to the left of the yoghurt place (Yogurt Fruz I think it's called), one in the Hilton hotel. The latter being the better as it allows 400COP withdrawal per transaction.

I always come prepared with enough local currency for one night just in case a local crisis prevents you from withdrawing money as has happened to me a few times.

A

[QUOTE=Pussyluver]Going back to CTG with an experienced monger friend and two newbies to the hobby. Staying in Laguito again. Have not been there for 2 years and a lot can change in 2 years. Have been spending my monger time in the PI lately but have decided to give up the English speaking quantity of ladies in favor of the higher quality and am heading back to Colombia.

Never been to CTG in early December. Hoping the rainy weather is coming to an end and we get some beach and sun.

Questions:

My pal tells me there is an ATM in the airport. I do not recall seeing one last time. I only noticed the money exchange which is always a rip off. Is there an ATM in the CTG airport and if so, where is it.

I remember an ATM in Laguito on the beach side of the street by an ice cream shop. Is this one still there? I also remember an ATM in Boca Grande inside some bank building.

Just hoping one of you who has been there recently can update me on the locations of ATM's in Laguito since our flight arrives late the evening 10: 30 PM our first night and will need an ATM to get some local cash to start the party.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pussyluver]My pal tells me there is an ATM in the airport. I do not recall seeing one last time. I only noticed the money exchange which is always a rip off. Is there an ATM in the CTG airport and if so, where is it.

I remember an ATM in Laguito on the beach side of the street by an ice cream shop. Is this one still there? I also remember an ATM in Boca Grande inside some bank building.

Just hoping one of you who has been there recently can update me on the locations of ATM's in Laguito since our flight arrives late the evening 10: 30 PM our first night and will need an ATM to get some local cash to start the party.

Thanks[/QUOTE]There are about 4 ATM machines in the departure hall of the airport next to the check in counters.

The ATM machine you mention in Laguito is still there. Another option in Laguito is the ATM machine in the Casino next to LDV.

[QUOTE=Beer Can Bob]Didn't meet her when I was there.

I liked it cause it was wasnt full of people, the girls were friendly and you could smoke in the bar, a couple of the girls even arguing with the bartender when he tried to over-charge me. Only a handful of girls, a couple from Cali, and the rest costenas.

And if you did it right you even skip the bar fine. Cellphone helps

One night I went in there with a girl who worked there part-time, had been hangin out all day, when we went to leave one of the annoying touts followed us yelling that I had to pay fine. Didn't have to as I came in there with her. Followed us up the road trying to get money out of me. Even tried telling me the hotel I was staying would accept girls and I should go to his recommended hotel. Full of shit as this girl had been in and out the hotel the previous night and day. Never a problem.

A few choice words and he got the picture.[/QUOTE]Bananas have barfine like Isis?

ATM's are in several locations, by the Avianca check-in there are 4 of them. There is still an ATM beside the yogurt place, gives 300,000 a hit. December is the end of the rainy season or the start of the dry season, depending on the weather, go figure. Lots of rain this year, more Cali and Cartagena chicas selling it this year.

Do you guys pay security deposit for apartment rental to Mary, Juan or others ?

This is not for reservation but the extra when you pay the rent for the apartment. And if so do you get it back the day you leave ? Is it in cash or credit card...

Not in Colombia but in some other South American countries I have paid the full rent in advanced and then no security deposit, which is great as you don't have to worry about it when you have to leave and catch your flight (if they are late you loose it). So wondered what is the norm here.

[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Do you guys pay security deposit for apartment rental to Mary, Juan or others ?

This is not for reservation but the extra when you pay the rent for the apartment. And if so do you get it back the day you leave ? Is it in cash or credit card...

Not in Colombia but in some other South American countries I have paid the full rent in advanced and then no security deposit, which is great as you don't have to worry about it when you have to leave and catch your flight (if they are late you loose it). So wondered what is the norm here.[/QUOTE]No security deposit with either Mery or Juan. Juan can require the first night's rent in advance via PayPal. Typically just bring USD to pay the rent for your stay and give them personally after you arrive.

I've never had an issue or negative experience with either Mery or Juan and can recommend without hesitation.

Hi guys,

I'm looking to be in Ctg Nov approx. Looking for some tailor made suit shirts. Anybody have any contacts. I had 1 contact in Ibague for 50k pesos each. Greatly appreciate any info.

Thanks again

I've just read the last year or so of reports and though much good information (LDV is the place to go; prices are high, but so is quality) I didn't find the information I was looking for.

Are there any decent hotels within reasonable walking distance of LDV that are guest friendly? I guess a lot of punters use rented condos, but since this will be my first CTG visit and my Spanish is all but nonexistent, I'd like to keep it simple. I don't need a 5* place, but don't want to step on cockroaches either.

Any recommendations? Thanks.

[quote=blago]i've just read the last year or so of reports and though much good information (ldv is the place to go; prices are high, but so is quality) i didn't find the information i was looking for.

are there any decent hotels within reasonable walking distance of ldv that are guest friendly? i guess a lot of punters use rented condos, but since this will be my first ctg visit and my spanish is all but nonexistent, i'd like to keep it simple. i don't need a 5* place, but don't want to step on cockroaches either.

any recommendations? thanks.[/quote]blago. are you sure your not from chicago.

do yourself a favor. contact juan ventura; his info is all over this site. he will hook you up with a beachside condo for $75 per night. you will have your own apartment with pool etc. juan speaks perfect english and is very accomodating. the condos are alway very chica friendly. in fact the guard at my building was able to point out that the chica that i had was **** and saved me from a world of shit. my unit was a 5 minute walk from ldv with a private beach and pool.

feel free to pm me for details.

Definitely contact Juan, speaking spanish has nothing to do with it. Get a condo and you cant go wrong. If you need any tips on getting from the airport to Laguita, and checking in just PM me. I speak virtually no espanol and never had a problem.

Good Luck!

[QUOTE=Blago]I've just read the last year or so of reports and though much good information (LDV is the place to go; prices are high, but so is quality) I didn't find the information I was looking for.

Are there any decent hotels within reasonable walking distance of LDV that are guest friendly? I guess a lot of punters use rented condos, but since this will be my first CTG visit and my Spanish is all but nonexistent, I'd like to keep it simple. I don't need a 5* place, but don't want to step on cockroaches either.

Any recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

If anyone has rented Juan's Mirador 1402 apartment please pm, thinking about renting this one.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Blago] I don't need a 5* place, but don't want to step on cockroaches either. Any recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've stayed in most of the apts. in Laguito over the years and every one had cockroaches, some more than others. That's just the way it is. Welcome to South America. I haven't stayed in Mirador however. It may be roach free because it is new not sure.

[QUOTE=Cubfan1963]Blago. Are you sure your not from Chicago.[/QUOTE]Blago, Clinton, Bloomberg?

They're all regulars. I guarnatee it.

Schwmm

[QUOTE=Bologna]I've stayed in most of the apts. in Laguito over the years and every one had cockroaches, some more than others. That's just the way it is. Welcome to South America. I haven't stayed in Mirador however. It may be roach free because it is new not sure.[/QUOTE]I must be lucky. I have been staying in Laquito apartments for seven years and have never seen a cockroach.

Thanks to all those who told me where the ATM's were located at the airport. The update on their locations was appreciated. I am booked my trip and am counting down the days to December.

One more inquiry. I have never been there in December and I know it is the transition month from the rainy season to a less rainy season. I am not overly concerned about the weather, but I am unsure if it is a good time for the chicas.

Does anyone know the college schedule in Colombia? I would like to know if the girls will be in school or on vacation on the beach and available for some freelancing in early December. I know it is a catholic country and I assume they all run home over the holidays, but I was hoping some might be looking for a little extra Christmas money in early December and on the prowl. Any of you with experience in Cartagena during early December please give me your insight.

[QUOTE=Otiers]I must be lucky. I have been staying in Laquito apartments for seven years and have never seen a cockroach.[/QUOTE]I think most ( active ) apts do spray so there are times when there aren't any visible and frankly, I don't think it is that bad really considering. It has never been a deal breaker for me and I've spent months in some of them.

Though I appreciate all the recommendations on renting an apartment, I'd prefer a hotel, even if it costs more. Having never visited CTG before and having little fluency in Spanish, I'd be more comfortable at a reasonably decent hotel. Any recommendations? I booked my airfare yesterday and would like the accommodations sorted.

And please don't cast unfair aspersions on our former governor--after all he's only been convicted of one felony--so far.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Medellin Dreams]Hi,

If anyone has rented Juan's Mirador 1402 apartment please pm, thinking about renting this one.

Thanks[/QUOTE]If that's the penthouse, with two-levels, small hottub on top floor, myself and wingman stayed there early September. Good unit.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69]I was not going to waste my time posting when I read his post, but since you responded I will chip in, and that is I have been in Cartagena no less than 20 times since 2004, and have never seen them either, with the exception being when I visited a friend in the Conquistador. I think he is full of bolony/bologna.[/QUOTE]Black Hawk69, If your going to insult another member and call him a liar, it is more effective ( and noble ) if you address that poster directly with your thoughts, instead of a coy lateral attack. Just saying.

Hello, Everyone,

I have gone way back through many reports looking for Juan's contact info and have found several different email addresses. I am traveling to CTG on 10-14 and am looking for a very nice, well located place to stay. If anyone has his number and could send it to me I would be very appreciative. If anyone will be there during that time and would like to grab a drink, please PM me.

Thanks in advance

I am going to be in Cartagena for the month of December and I am looking to rent a Apartment for one month. I would also consider sharing a apartment with someone else. I have been to Cartagena 12 times and also going to Medellin for two months starting Jan 1st until March 1st. Please let me know if anyone has a lead on a apartment in either city.

Thanks Randy

[QUOTE=Zenguy69]Hello, Everyone,

I have gone way back through many reports looking for Juan's contact info and have found several different email addresses. I am traveling to CTG on 10-14 and am looking for a very nice, well located place to stay. If anyone has his number and could send it to me I would be very appreciative. If anyone will be there during that time and would like to grab a drink, please PM me.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Visit the 3rd most recent page in the thread titled "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments" in this forum and you'll find contact info for Juan and several others.

Also, Juan has this page on the web:

[url]http://www.zepelion.com/apartamentos/index.htm[/url]

Use his hotmail account, as he's had some problems with the aol account in the past. IMO better to contact him via email instead of calling.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Cartaa]I am going to be in Cartagena for the month of December and I am looking to rent a Apartment for one month. I would also consider sharing a apartment with someone else. I have been to Cartagena 12 times and also going to Medellin for two months starting Jan 1st until March 1st. Please let me know if anyone has a lead on a apartment in either city.

Thanks Randy[/QUOTE]Is this Randy from Chicago?

Well Blago,

I tried to show you the way to go, but if you are dead set on a hotel, I cant help you. If you are going to be picking up girls, it is best to have a condo, and you will notice when you meet a girl this is one of the things they will ask you, because they dont want any hassles. So good luck with your search.

[QUOTE=Blago]Though I appreciate all the recommendations on renting an apartment, I'd prefer a hotel, even if it costs more. Having never visited CTG before and having little fluency in Spanish, I'd be more comfortable at a reasonably decent hotel. Any recommendations? I booked my airfare yesterday and would like the accommodations sorted.

And please don't cast unfair aspersions on our former governor--after all he's only been convicted of one felony--so far.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I agree, I have not seen any cockroaches. but I am sure it is possible, but whats the big deal, that can happen anywhere. I am sure the place wasnt over run with them. Personally though, I have stayed in many apartments and have never seen one.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69]I was not going to waste my time posting when I read his post, but since you responded I will chip in, and that is I have been in Cartagena no less than 20 times since 2004, and have never seen them either, with the exception being when I visited a friend in the Conquistador. I think he is full of bolony/bologna.[/QUOTE]

I picked new tix for Nov 8-11 in CTG. I caved on Spirit's $49 fare. Have to love it. RT fare of $98 and Taxes and fees of $158. 70. How fucked up is that. Even with the bag fees it is still cheaper then anything out there from ORD to CTG. God I hope these seats recline.

If anyone is in CTG on these dates PM me so we can meet up. I will do LDV but want to explore more of Centro.

[QUOTE=Blago]Though I appreciate all the recommendations on renting an apartment, I'd prefer a hotel, even if it costs more. Having never visited CTG before and having little fluency in Spanish, I'd be more comfortable at a reasonably decent hotel. Any recommendations? I booked my airfare yesterday and would like the accommodations sorted.

And please don't cast unfair aspersions on our former governor-after all he's only been convicted of one felony-so far.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Blago, I understand why you believe that you will feel more comfortable in a hotel given your lack of fluency in Spanish and with this being your first visit to CTG. That being said, what most guys here will tell you is that your concern or hesitancy in renting an apartment (while understood) is unnecessary.

If you rent an apartment from either Mery or Juan, you'll be in a safe area (Laguito) and a secured building. While the guy at the reception desk won't speak much, if any, English (but he will be used to dealing with non-fluent Spanish speakers), both Mery and Juan do and will assist you upon your arrival if you request it. All you'll need to do upon check-in is provide the guy at the desk your name and what unit you have reserved, provide your passport so he can complete a small amount of paperwork, and sign your name (and a fingerprint at some buildings and a small administrative fee at some buildings). He willl then give you the keys to your apartment and you're on your way.

If you still insist on a hotel, then just go with the Hilton. Just use the search feature within this thread on the word "Hilton" to see what others have posted herewithin. Also visit the separate thread on this Forum titled "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments". If you desire many different chicas (pros), don't blame me or anyone else here if you end up disappointed with a stay at the Hilton because they don't always grant entrance to one or more of your guests.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Cubfan1963]I picked new tix for Nov 8-11 in CTG. I caved on Spirit's $49 fare. Have to love it. RT fare of $98 and Taxes and fees of $158. 70. How fucked up is that. Even with the bag fees it is still cheaper then anything out there from ORD to CTG. God I hope these seats recline.

If anyone is in CTG on these dates PM me so we can meet up. I will do LDV but want to explore more of Centro.[/QUOTE]Nice find - can do a nyc - Medellin RT for under 300.

Hilltopper put this well, although I was not as eloquent(i cant spell worth a fuck) this is what I am trying to tell Blago. I dont to this minute, really understand what his problem is with a condo, but fuck, I'm going to say it again. Blago rent a fucking CONDO!

[QUOTE=Hilltopper]Blago, I understand why you believe that you will feel more comfortable in a hotel given your lack of fluency in Spanish and with this being your first visit to CTG. That being said, what most guys here will tell you is that your concern or hesitancy in renting an apartment (while understood) is unnecessary.

If you rent an apartment from either Mery or Juan, you'll be in a safe area (Laguito) and a secured building. While the guy at the reception desk won't speak much, if any, English (but he will be used to dealing with non-fluent Spanish speakers), both Mery and Juan do and will assist you upon your arrival if you request it. All you'll need to do upon check-in is provide the guy at the desk your name and what unit you have reserved, provide your passport so he can complete a small amount of paperwork, and sign your name (and a fingerprint at some buildings and a small administrative fee at some buildings). He willl then give you the keys to your apartment and you're on your way.

If you still insist on a hotel, then just go with the Hilton. Just use the search feature within this thread on the word "Hilton" to see what others have posted herewithin. Also visit the separate thread on this Forum titled "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments". If you desire many different chicas (pros), don't blame me or anyone else here if you end up disappointed with a stay at the Hilton because they don't always grant entrance to one or more of your guests.

Have fun![/QUOTE]

Hello All,

I was in CTG in 2008. I enjoyed it tremendously and decided to go back Novemeber 2010.

This time three of my friends want to monger also. Got Flight rented 5 star Apartment..ready to go.

The Apartment owner now tells me there is a New Tourism law (April 2010)that will not allow prepagos in the tourist apartments or in hotels.

Is this true?

I need a monger companion friendly, 4-5 star 3-4 bedroom apartment or hotel for 4 guys. Can anyone help me?

Peace HJ.

Hello All!

I am a monger and was in CTG in 2008 and loved it.

I need help. I booked a airfare and an 5 star 4 bedroom apartment in CTG, for me and 3 of my monger buddies, mid Novemeber, 2010.

I just got off the phone with the apartment owner who tells me there are new tourism laws (April 2010) that will not allow the prepagos (working women) to accompany us into the tourism apartment or hotels! No Women! ahhhh! Is this true?

I need a nice (4-5 star) monger companion friendly apartment or hotel in CTG for Mid Novemeber. Any Recomendations?

Peace,

HJ Mac

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Hello All!

I am a monger and was in CTG in 2008 and loved it.

I need help. I booked a airfare and an 5 star 4 bedroom apartment in CTG, for me and 3 of my monger buddies, mid Novemeber, 2010.

I just got off the phone with the apartment owner who tells me there are new tourism laws (April 2010) that will not allow the prepagos (working women) to accompany us into the tourism apartment or hotels! No Women! ahhhh! Is this true?

I need a nice (4-5 star) monger companion friendly apartment or hotel in CTG for Mid Novemeber. Any Recomendations?

Peace,

HJ Mac[/QUOTE]HJ, As far as I know there is no truth to this. It could simply be that the owner does not want putas in his unit. Fine then go else where. Contact Juan Ventura at [url]www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/index.htm[/url]. He has a number of penthouse units that should fit your needs.

BTW, what are your dates? I will be there the 8-10

If you have any other questions feel free to PM me. I am sure the guys here would give you the same info.

I have been there for 10+ years, this is just not true about putas. Some apt bldgs are more restrictive but there are plenty of apts that only want a cedula to cover their ass. Juan Ventura had a house with pool in Laguito that is great for a party. He also has several penthouses.

If you are scheduled during the Miss Colombia pageant (Nov 8-15) then they dropped you because that and New Years are the busiest times of the year for Cartagena.

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Hello All!

I am a monger and was in CTG in 2008 and loved it.

I need help. I booked a airfare and an 5 star 4 bedroom apartment in CTG, for me and 3 of my monger buddies, mid Novemeber, 2010.

I just got off the phone with the apartment owner who tells me there are new tourism laws (April 2010) that will not allow the prepagos (working women) to accompany us into the tourism apartment or hotels! No Women! ahhhh! Is this true?

I need a nice (4-5 star) monger companion friendly apartment or hotel in CTG for Mid Novemeber. Any Recomendations?

Peace,

HJ Mac[/QUOTE]IMO this sounds fishy: A "law" that prohibits prepagos from coming into the apartment?" First how would they know who is a prepago and who is just your chick/friend/wife/girlfriend/cousin? Second how on EARTH would the enforce this law? Why would they enforce this law?

If I had to guess I would say that the other occupants of the apartment gave the guy a hard time for some previous drama and now he's just trying to cover his ass. When I rented in Mede and Bogota there always was a "No Loud Parties" clause in the rental agreement because every day colombians lived in the building too and while I'm going nuts with my boys and a gang of sluts some guy named Hector has to go to work at 6am.

just a guess but I'd bet money I was right...

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Hello All!

I am a monger and was in CTG in 2008 and loved it.

I need help. I booked a airfare and an 5 star 4 bedroom apartment in CTG, for me and 3 of my monger buddies, mid Novemeber, 2010.

I just got off the phone with the apartment owner who tells me there are new tourism laws (April 2010) that will not allow the prepagos (working women) to accompany us into the tourism apartment or hotels! No Women! ahhhh! Is this true?

I need a nice (4-5 star) monger companion friendly apartment or hotel in CTG for Mid Novemeber. Any Recomendations?

Peace,

HJ Mac[/QUOTE]Sombody is pulling your leg.There tring to shake you down for a entrance fee for your girls tell them you no stupid gringo and you will bring in who you want. I am there next week.

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Hello All!

I am a monger and was in CTG in 2008 and loved it.

I need help. I booked a airfare and an 5 star 4 bedroom apartment in CTG, for me and 3 of my monger buddies, mid Novemeber, 2010.

I just got off the phone with the apartment owner who tells me there are new tourism laws (April 2010) that will not allow the prepagos (working women) to accompany us into the tourism apartment or hotels! No Women! ahhhh! Is this true?

I need a nice (4-5 star) monger companion friendly apartment or hotel in CTG for Mid Novemeber. Any Recomendations?

Peace,

HJ Mac[/QUOTE]Good grief amigo, maybe read the last couple days of posts, ALL about apartments in Cartagena.

Maybe that'll help.

Peace

WTF are you talking about? Thats total bullshit as far as I know. Tell him to go fuck himself. If I rent a condo, its my place and I will bring who ever I want into the place. Or I am out the door. Hence, I rented this, its mine for the time! As long as I respect the property and I always do , I will do as if it were mine. That means if I have a friend, there coming with me.

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Hello All!

I am a monger and was in CTG in 2008 and loved it.

I need help. I booked a airfare and an 5 star 4 bedroom apartment in CTG, for me and 3 of my monger buddies, mid Novemeber, 2010.

I just got off the phone with the apartment owner who tells me there are new tourism laws (April 2010) that will not allow the prepagos (working women) to accompany us into the tourism apartment or hotels! No Women! ahhhh! Is this true?

I need a nice (4-5 star) monger companion friendly apartment or hotel in CTG for Mid Novemeber. Any Recomendations?

Peace,

HJ Mac[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Escort King]Nice find - can do a nyc - Medellin RT for under 300.[/QUOTE]I'll be there from the 6th to the tenth myself.

I'm in for Centro and LDV!

Hey guys,

Up until now most of my sex-capades have been in eastern europe. I've been interested in taking a trip to SA for a while and was looking at Cartagena. I've tried to do my research by reading the forums, but I've got a few questions nonetheless...

Will I be able to get by on very basic Spanish? I never really learned much Spanish, but do know some basics and can speak Italian quite well so I was hoping I'd be ok. I was also thinking since Cartagena is more of a tourist area I'd fare better than say Medellin or Bogota.

About pricing. Pricing seems to be between 150k-200k for TLN. Does that include anal and BBBJ or do I have to negotiate for those seperately(this is where I'm worried my Spanish might be insufficient)? If I was interested in a girl for a GFE lasting a few days what should I expect to pay? Also, how liberal are the girls when it comes to photos and more importantly videos? I've never had any luck with videos in countries like Czech or Ukraine, but always find girls who are up for it in Budapest and Romania so I was wondering if it was worth bringing my camera.

Thanks,

Drew

[QUOTE=Drew Be]Hey guys,

Up until now most of my sex-capades have been in eastern europe. I've been interested in taking a trip to SA for a while and was looking at Cartagena. I've tried to do my research by reading the forums, but I've got a few questions nonetheless...

Will I be able to get by on very basic Spanish? I never really learned much Spanish, but do know some basics and can speak Italian quite well so I was hoping I'd be ok. I was also thinking since Cartagena is more of a tourist area I'd fare better than say Medellin or Bogota.

About pricing. Pricing seems to be between 150k-200k for TLN. Does that include anal and BBBJ or do I have to negotiate for those seperately(this is where I'm worried my Spanish might be insufficient)? If I was interested in a girl for a GFE lasting a few days what should I expect to pay? Also, how liberal are the girls when it comes to photos and more importantly videos? I've never had any luck with videos in countries like Czech or Ukraine, but always find girls who are up for it in Budapest and Romania so I was wondering if it was worth bringing my camera.

Thanks,

Drew[/QUOTE]Spanish is not required in CTG but will help with the nuances of negotiations and in the bedroom. My espanol is very basic and I had no problems. I am trying to improve.

Your range for TLN is about right. Good skills will get you to $150k including BJ. I think 2hole will cost you more and severley limit your chica options. I suppose if you offer top COP you would get more takers.

Regarding Pics or Vids many of the pros will go for it most for extra $$. Always bring the camera, the one time you don't a 10 will fall in your lap and let you do anal and take pictures. And then what.

[QUOTE=Drew Be]Hey guys,

Up until now most of my sex-capades have been in eastern europe. I've been interested in taking a trip to SA for a while and was looking at Cartagena. I've tried to do my research by reading the forums, but I've got a few questions nonetheless...

Will I be able to get by on very basic Spanish? I never really learned much Spanish, but do know some basics and can speak Italian quite well so I was hoping I'd be ok. I was also thinking since Cartagena is more of a tourist area I'd fare better than say Medellin or Bogota.

About pricing. Pricing seems to be between 150k-200k for TLN. Does that include anal and BBBJ or do I have to negotiate for those seperately(this is where I'm worried my Spanish might be insufficient)? If I was interested in a girl for a GFE lasting a few days what should I expect to pay? Also, how liberal are the girls when it comes to photos and more importantly videos? I've never had any luck with videos in countries like Czech or Ukraine, but always find girls who are up for it in Budapest and Romania so I was wondering if it was worth bringing my camera.

Thanks,

Drew[/QUOTE]Extras are generally extras but not too much more given what you want.

[QUOTE=Cubfan1963]HJ, As far as I know there is no truth to this. It could simply be that the owner does not want putas in his unit. Fine then go else where. Contact Juan Ventura at [url]www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/index.htm[/url]. He has a number of penthouse units that should fit your needs.

BTW, what are your dates? I will be there the 8-10

If you have any other questions feel free to PM me. I am sure the guys here would give you the same info.[/QUOTE]Thanks bro.

I moved my dates to Dec 3-7, and am using Jaun!! have fun!

[QUOTE=LocoGringo]I have been there for 10+ years, this is just not true about putas. Some apt bldgs are more restrictive but there are plenty of apts that only want a cedula to cover their ass. Juan Ventura had a house with pool in Laguito that is great for a party. He also has several penthouses.

If you are scheduled during the Miss Colombia pageant (Nov 8-15) then they dropped you because that and New Years are the busiest times of the year for Cartagena.[/QUOTE]Thanks!

We were right in the mix of it! I changed the date and am using Jaun!

[QUOTE=Ricker]Good grief amigo, maybe read the last couple days of posts, ALL about apartments in Cartagena.

Maybe that'll help.

Peace[/QUOTE]Thanks.

I was shook up and did use the info from the other post.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo]I have been there for 10+ years, this is just not true about putas. Some apt bldgs are more restrictive but there are plenty of apts that only want a cedula to cover their ass. Juan Ventura had a house with pool in Laguito that is great for a party. He also has several penthouses.

If you are scheduled during the Miss Colombia pageant (Nov 8-15) then they dropped you because that and New Years are the busiest times of the year for Cartagena.[/QUOTE]Loco.

It appears that I will be in CTG for the beginning of the pageant.

Is it worth checking out?

I have gotten alot of info from this site and appreciate the posters and members. I do have a bit of a beef. A lot of people talk about 100 k for short time and 150 for long time and i am spelling it out so there is no confusion. I am no enrique eglesias but im in good shape not awful to look at and am not shy around women. Hell Ive been known to get laid in sex prison! To get a chick from ldv to go for 100k is fookin WORK and then rarely, for me anyway. Long time is hard to get for 200k much less 150. So are you guys internet fibbin or what. I am not a prolific poster but I try to only add info that hasnt been stated many times. I stated that that recently i was in Carta and at electra it was no bargain, everybody wanted 150 and werent budgin. Shit they were willing to take less at ldv. Make no sense unless its a pride thing. No one wanted me all nite so now im not gonna bargain cuz its thier fault.....WTF over!! But seriosly guys, are you really getting ldv chicks for 100k or is this web bluster. Wanted to know in case this is the same thing with Medellin cuz I want to try it next but not if Im gonna run into bargain reports turning into fantasy wonderland dreaming compared to reality. I dont mean to be disrespectful, but I give my honest experiences and appreciate the same.

End of rant and thanks again for all of the info

I think it all depends on how early it is at LDV.

If its truly the beginning of the night she will be willing go for less short time with the hope of getting another customer at Electra late night. (especially if you're sober and seem to want to get down to business)

On the flip side she wont want to go for cheap LT from LDV because there are a whole night's worth of customers available possibly willing to pay more.

At Electra long time is cheaper as they dont really have any hope of any new customers after you. Plus keep in mind if you are someone the girl doesn't mind being with i.e. nice, fun not bad to look at, she's probably more comfortable spending the night at your place then getting up and dressed at 5-6 am and going back to an apartment shared with 6 other working girls.

I've taken 2 girls from LDV 1 for 120k and 1 for 150k both were short time.

I've taken 4 girls from Electra 2 for 100k and 2 for 150k both stayed until I had to ask them to leave when I wanted to go to the beach the next afternoon.

This also maybe due to the fact that I come off much better at Electra then I do at LDV. I speak Spanish very well and am relatively young and in good shape and can rap with these girls very well but can't' dance salsa worth a damn! Salsa is huge to having fun with girls at LDV and Tu Candela.

[QUOTE=Aba Corrado]I have gotten alot of info from this site and appreciate the posters and members. I do have a bit of a beef. A lot of people talk about 100 k for short time and 150 for long time and i am spelling it out so there is no confusion. I am no enrique eglesias but im in good shape not awful to look at and am not shy around women. Hell Ive been known to get laid in sex prison! To get a chick from ldv to go for 100k is fookin WORK and then rarely, for me anyway. Long time is hard to get for 200k much less 150. So are you guys internet fibbin or what. I am not a prolific poster but I try to only add info that hasnt been stated many times. I stated that that recently i was in Carta and at electra it was no bargain, everybody wanted 150 and werent budgin. Shit they were willing to take less at ldv. Make no sense unless its a pride thing. No one wanted me all nite so now im not gonna bargain cuz its thier fault.....WTF over!! But seriosly guys, are you really getting ldv chicks for 100k or is this web bluster. Wanted to know in case this is the same thing with Medellin cuz I want to try it next but not if Im gonna run into bargain reports turning into fantasy wonderland dreaming compared to reality. I dont mean to be disrespectful, but I give my honest experiences and appreciate the same.

End of rant and thanks again for all of the info[/QUOTE]If you stay at the Mansion the girls there generally will go for 150-200 TLN if they are there at night - they get breakfast in the morning - 100 ST but some will ask more - you have to negotiate and do it in a friendly way.

Everything you are saying is true. Well put.

[QUOTE=Havahopeful]I think it all depends on how early it is at LDV.

If its truly the beginning of the night she will be willing go for less short time with the hope of getting another customer at Electra late night. (especially if you're sober and seem to want to get down to business)

On the flip side she wont want to go for cheap LT from LDV because there are a whole night's worth of customers available possibly willing to pay more.

At Electra long time is cheaper as they dont really have any hope of any new customers after you. Plus keep in mind if you are someone the girl doesn't mind being with i.e. nice, fun not bad to look at, she's probably more comfortable spending the night at your place then getting up and dressed at 5-6 am and going back to an apartment shared with 6 other working girls.

I've taken 2 girls from LDV 1 for 120k and 1 for 150k both were short time.

I've taken 4 girls from Electra 2 for 100k and 2 for 150k both stayed until I had to ask them to leave when I wanted to go to the beach the next afternoon.

This also maybe due to the fact that I come off much better at Electra then I do at LDV. I speak Spanish very well and am relatively young and in good shape and can rap with these girls very well but can't' dance salsa worth a damn! Salsa is huge to having fun with girls at LDV and Tu Candela.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aba Corrado]I have gotten alot of info from this site and appreciate the posters and members. I do have a bit of a beef. A lot of people talk about 100 k for short time and 150 for long time and i am spelling it out so there is no confusion. I am no enrique eglesias but im in good shape not awful to look at and am not shy around women. Hell Ive been known to get laid in sex prison! To get a chick from ldv to go for 100k is fookin WORK and then rarely, for me anyway. Long time is hard to get for 200k much less 150. So are you guys internet fibbin or what. I am not a prolific poster but I try to only add info that hasnt been stated many times. I stated that that recently i was in Carta and at electra it was no bargain, everybody wanted 150 and werent budgin. Shit they were willing to take less at ldv. Make no sense unless its a pride thing. No one wanted me all nite so now im not gonna bargain cuz its thier fault.....WTF over!! But seriosly guys, are you really getting ldv chicks for 100k or is this web bluster. Wanted to know in case this is the same thing with Medellin cuz I want to try it next but not if Im gonna run into bargain reports turning into fantasy wonderland dreaming compared to reality. I dont mean to be disrespectful, but I give my honest experiences and appreciate the same.

End of rant and thanks again for all of the info[/QUOTE]Having just been in CTG and killed many brain cells in August I can say with supreme confidence that 80k COP for ST and 150k COP for LT can be had. And those with better game and laguage skills could probably do better. I am not a tough negotiater since I believe there is a direct correlation between negotiating too hard and getting shitty service. Once I find the woman of my dreams (for that night) I get a feeling of her price range. If I believe she is starting from an unreasonable point I move on to the next Puta. I have had horrible experiences with women after negotiating down to the last nickel. Now if I like the way she looks and we hit it off I create a ceiling. Anything I get below that is great.

Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MAC

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MAC[/QUOTE]Yes, he takes his deposits through paypal. Once you have rented from him he no longer requires a deposit. How's that for trust.

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MAC[/QUOTE]Mac,

Juan is on the up and up!

Evidently you are not experienced with Pay Pal.

If you have Juan's email you have all the instructions you need to make payment to him. His email address serves as his account.

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MAC[/QUOTE]I have been all over Colombia and I have never met a more stand up guy than Juan,period. He probably is assuming that you know how to pay him through Paypal as it is as simple as simple gets,you send payment to his account which is his e-mail address.

My suggestion is you don't need a backup plan with Juan,someone else yes,but not him.

[QUOTE=Cubfan1963]I am not a tough negotiater since I believe there is a direct correlation between negotiating too hard and getting shitty service. Once I find the woman of my dreams (for that night) I get a feeling of her price range. If I believe she is starting from an unreasonable point I move on to the next Puta. I have had horrible experiences with women after negotiating down to the last nickel. Now if I like the way she looks and we hit it off I create a ceiling. Anything I get below that is great.[/QUOTE]Yep, that's it. You got the right idea. Being a hard-ass negotiator ups your chance of a mediocre (or worse) session by a lot.

Obviously, if you're a monger that cares only about a hole to pump and dump, then price is all that matters. But if you're not wired that way, then you have choices and options to consider. The right attitude is exactly what you said, figure out what price you're willing to pay for the girl in front of you taking into account the kind of experience you're looking for.

Ditto Manazales comment on Juan. In monthly dealings for 7 years never a problem. Mmake the reservation quickly though, it is starting to get busy for Nov/Dec/Jan.

Bud, just stop ! Juan is fine. Pull your skirt up B and book the room. Juan is a gentlemen.

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MAC[/QUOTE]

When I first dealt with Juan years ago, sent my deposit thru Western Union, It was no problem. He will be happy to let you WU it to him.

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MAC[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MAC[/QUOTE]Others have already provided enough feedback to ensure you that your initial uncomfortable feeling was misplaced. I'd like to only add one other piece of information for clarification to help others in their initial dealings with Juan:

In renting an apartment with Juan, he sends the instructions for making the initial one night's PayPal deposit (along with other instructions) after you reserve the apartment. You didn't receive the instructions email because you hadn't comitted to a reservation.

So for others making their first rental with Juan: when you email him, find out what's available for your dates, make your decision, then tell him which one you want to reserve and confirm your dates. He will then email you back confirming your reservation and send you the instruction email. It's that simple.

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Loco Gringo and others. I am dealing with Juan Ventura who was recommended people on this website.

I am uncomfortable. He only wants a small down payment, (that's good). And has no contract. That I find unusual. He says he represents a Candian owner.

I have asked him 3 times on how I get the money to him. Each time he says through my Paypal account but never gives me the instructions to do it.

I am thinking of booking through him but getting a hotel. Possibaly the "El Dorado" as back up.

Any suggestions?

HJ MAC[/QUOTE]I can understand wanting to be cautious but this is a little over the top. There are probably 50 guys on this site that would vouch for Juan. Do yourself a favor and do the search. He is a stand up guy. If you are still not sure go with a hotel a when you get there you will find out how silly you were. Maybe you are not ready for this hobby?

[QUOTE=Cubfan1963]I can understand wanting to be cautious but this is a little over the top. There are probably 50 guys on this site that would vouch for Juan. Do yourself a favor and do the search. He is a stand up guy. If you are still not sure go with a hotel a when you get there you will find out how silly you were. Maybe you are not ready for this hobby?[/QUOTE]Are you sure about Juan?. JOKE! I get it. I booked with him. Thank you all for the input.

[QUOTE=Aba Corrado]I have gotten alot of info from this site and appreciate the posters and members. I do have a bit of a beef. A lot of people talk about 100 k for short time and 150 for long time and i am spelling it out so there is no confusion. I am no enrique eglesias but im in good shape not awful to look at and am not shy around women. Hell Ive been known to get laid in sex prison! To get a chick from ldv to go for 100k is fookin WORK and then rarely, for me anyway. Long time is hard to get for 200k much less 150. So are you guys internet fibbin or what. I am not a prolific poster but I try to only add info that hasnt been stated many times. I stated that that recently i was in Carta and at electra it was no bargain, everybody wanted 150 and werent budgin. Shit they were willing to take less at ldv. Make no sense unless its a pride thing. No one wanted me all nite so now im not gonna bargain cuz its thier fault.....WTF over!! But seriosly guys, are you really getting ldv chicks for 100k or is this web bluster. Wanted to know in case this is the same thing with Medellin cuz I want to try it next but not if Im gonna run into bargain reports turning into fantasy wonderland dreaming compared to reality. I dont mean to be disrespectful, but I give my honest experiences and appreciate the same.

End of rant and thanks again for all of the info[/QUOTE]I donated 100K-150K TLN most of the time. Although I had one chica that agreed to 150K TLN, then did the old 150 USD switcheroo. I kicked her out the door in about 5 seconds. A chica on the beach wanted 300K for an hour so they can ask for a lot sometimes.

Check your breath. I asked one chica what she liked about me and she said I had nice breath. (I shouldn't give away my secrets!)

Hoser

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Are you sure about Juan?. JOKE! I get it. I booked with him. Thank you all for the input.[/QUOTE]Good for you. When you meet Juan you will laugh about this. Please be sure to report back when you return. Include your impressions of the property as well so we can all benefit from your experience.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hoser352]I donated 100K-150K TLN most of the time. Although I had one chica that agreed to 150K TLN, then did the old 150 USD switcheroo. I kicked her out the door in about 5 seconds. A chica on the beach wanted 300K for an hour so they can ask for a lot sometimes.

Check your breath. I asked one chica what she liked about me and she said I had nice breath. (I shouldn't give away my secrets!)

Hoser[/QUOTE]Hoser brings up a good point. As much as we want to boil this down to a business transaction the chica still has some control. If she thinks you are a duche bag and a complete slob no amount of haggling will get her to come off her price.

The orignal question posed to the board is legit and I am sure some guys like to come off as the worlds best deal maker. However, I am speaking from very recent experienc that Sub 100k COP for ST and around 150k COP for LT are very doable. I speak next to no spanish and don't really try to negotiate the last Pesso. Also, I have simply walked away from chicas asking for 300k COP for a few hours. They are simply starting from a crazy price point and I don't want to deal with that kind of nonsense.

There are varying quality of women. I am simply stunned when I see pictures posted of women that guys think are 8s or 9s; these same women I would rate as 5s or 6s. So quality is a factor to keep in mind.

Bottom line is that some guys probably exaggerate but when you average all of the information the truth is probably in the middle.

Headed to Cartagena in November for the first time. Didn't want to hastle with securing an apt, so was just gonna book a higher end hotel room. Are there any known to be chica friendly? Was thinking of staying around El Centro but I guess we could do Boca Grande as well.

Have you even bothered to read thru any of the post hear? Apartments are the way to go. Read the post.

[QUOTE=Twetr]Headed to Cartagena in November for the first time. Didn't want to hastle with securing an apt, so was just gonna book a higher end hotel room. Are there any known to be chica friendly? Was thinking of staying around El Centro but I guess we could do Boca Grande as well.[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

That is my first post in this thread and it will be my first trip in Colombia.

Thanks to your advice, I will rent an apartment with Juan.

I will be there from february 17th to 28th.

I speak quite fluently spanish and for sure better than english. I am half spanish.

I will be glad to share a drink with some of you.

[QUOTE=Twetr]Headed to Cartagena in November for the first time. Didn't want to hastle with securing an apt, so was just gonna book a higher end hotel room. Are there any known to be chica friendly? Was thinking of staying around El Centro but I guess we could do Boca Grande as well.[/QUOTE]Read some of the recent posts and stay in an apartment. Sheeeshhhhh.

[QUOTE=Twetr]Headed to Cartagena in November for the first time. Didn't want to hastle with securing an apt, so was just gonna book a higher end hotel room. Are there any known to be chica friendly? Was thinking of staying around El Centro but I guess we could do Boca Grande as well.[/QUOTE]Dude; please don't spam EVERY topic with the same question.

As for your actual question I say Apt is the way to go. Hotels have EVERYBODY and ANYBODY in your business...search "Hotel" and you'll see that a bunch of people have had horror stories about all levels of hotels.

Good luck

[QUOTE=Twetr]Headed to Cartagena in November for the first time. Didn't want to hastle with securing an apt, so was just gonna book a higher end hotel room. Are there any known to be chica friendly? Was thinking of staying around El Centro but I guess we could do Boca Grande as well.[/QUOTE]Twetr:

Securing an apartment is easier than a hotel in CTG. Also a much better value and guaranteed Chica friendly. Consider Boca Grande or El Laguito.

Contact this guy for apartments you can't go wrong.

Juan ventura [email]ittscol@hotmail.com[/email]

My business? I don't understand. Anyway, sorry for that triple post. My problem is that I can only hang in CTG for 3 days. I had read a couple comments saying that it was difficult to secure an apt for such a short period of time, is that inaccurate?

[QUOTE=Twetr]My business? I don't understand. Anyway, sorry for that triple post. My problem is that I can only hang in CTG for 3 days. I had read a couple comments saying that it was difficult to secure an apt for such a short period of time, is that inaccurate?[/QUOTE]Not to jump on your case, but there are many posts on Apartments and Hotels. Seems like the same question every week. I found something really great, it is called Google and you just type in Cartegena Apartment (or Cartagena Hotels) and click on the results of your search. Lots of information, some apartments are even listed with nightly rates. Hotels even have pictures and reservation forms.

I write with TIC, but sometimes regulars see the same question routinely.

[QUOTE=Twetr]My business? I don't understand. Anyway, sorry for that triple post. My problem is that I can only hang in CTG for 3 days. I had read a couple comments saying that it was difficult to secure an apt for such a short period of time, is that inaccurate?[/QUOTE]I am going to CTG in two weeks and have an apartment through Juan for only two nights. So you should not have a problem.

That is the only email you need to know unless he is booked. It doesnt matteri if its 1 day or 50.


[QUOTE=Cubfan1963]Twetr:

Securing an apartment is easier than a hotel in CTG. Also a much better value and guaranteed Chica friendly. Consider Boca Grande or El Laguito.

Contact this guy for apartments you can't go wrong.

Juan ventura [email]ittscol@hotmail.com[/email][/QUOTE]

Guess I will be in CTG during the beginning of the Pageant the week of Nov 8th. Have any of you guys been in CTG during the event? Has anyone actually attended any of the events?

Appreciate the advise. Juan has the atl 1201 and the playa 301 available. Both seem nice. Anyone hqve any experience with those units or favorites?

stayed in 301 many times its nice, especiallly the large balcony over looking the ocean. Go with 301 playa mar

[QUOTE=Twetr]Appreciate the advise. Juan has the atl 1201 and the playa 301 available. Both seem nice. Anyone hqve any experience with those units or favorites?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Twetr]Appreciate the advise. Juan has the atl 1201 and the playa 301 available. Both seem nice. Anyone hqve any experience with those units or favorites?[/QUOTE]Youcan is correct 301 is VERY nice. Recently rehabed and very modern with flat screen TV etc. My friends stayed there August. I was very jealous as I was in 902 and it was not as refined. I have 301 for my visit in a few weeks. I will leave something for you under the mattress.

Just got back from 3 weeks in CTG with a buddy, I'm not a big writer so I try to post some feedback when I get a chance. Right now I'm coping with serious pu**y withdrawal in the sex prison - damn it's hard, so I'm just going to say something about apartments.

As everyone mentioned forget hotels, though if you don't want to pay deposit upfront and rent without seeing, just book a night or two in a hotel and then you can go and see many places the next day. I saw some of Juan and Mery flats but they didn't have a 3 weeks continuous place available for us (and this was in low season Oct !? we wanted 2bed/2bath). Then we went around just asking at the receptions of buildings and some contacts I had from web, and soon saw nearly 10/15 flats. Negotiated the one we liked and moved in - no hassle. Though you need some Spanish I guess, AND a phone (get a SIM card from any shop, I got Movistar and found it VERY expensive, I heard Tigo is cheaper, don't know by how much. All have their own shop in Bocagrande.
. You can also just go to the guys in street corners who have phones for use in Bocagrande (have a sign says "Llamadas 150"), or even any store in Laguito, you can make a local/mobile call for 150-300 pesos per minute.

I think even booking in advance with Juan or Mery (both speak English) can't go much wrong. But make sure before you pay any more money when you arrive you check EVERYTHING in the flat, remember modem internet requires top-up (22k peso for a week) and it's slow. If something is not working, keep some money and say you pay when it's working properly. Clear up all fees for cleaning, towels etc. - try not to pay security deposit, to be returned later (we didn't). You might not see that again. Also they charge 5k-10k or something like that for registration at the reception (make sure you don't have to pay that for chicas - this could be a side-earner for receptionists, check and clear it right at the beginning with owner and receptionist present together.). These are general advise not particularly for Juan/Mery. I'm sure you have less issue with them as guys here use them all the time.

As for living in Bocagrande or Laguito there is not a big difference really, it's 5-10 minutes walk (more restaurant options in BG - we only ate there). The biggest issue is noise, no matter where you are, you are up at 7am because of unbelievable noise - all kind of noise that you can not imagine !?

For proximity, you want to be near Hollywood beach (5 minutes from Laguito/BG, though longer if staying further down BG). The beach is where Laguito/BG meet. That's where WG hang out. LDV is very near to there too. For everything else you need to taxi back and forth (5k day, 6K night fixed price to center or vice versa from either of these places.). We walked to BG from Laguito every night for dinner 8/9pm, no problem. Generally there are so much military and police in BG/Laguito/Center, I don't thing anyone dares to try anything.

For temporary hotel stay, worth mentioning small hotels in BG on the street parallel to San Martin (Cra 3) - note difference between Cra, Carrera, and Calle, I think it's Cra 4, and just before Olypmica supermarket, there are 5 or more hotels in a row (I never checked them or asked for prices, but saw a lot of Colombians stay there, so assume reasonable prices) . But we stayed in Estrela Oceania next to Hilton in Laguito for two nights (not sure if GF, never asked - we were two guys in a twin room, so no option for chicas really !?). It's a good price if you book on Expedia.co.uk, nice hotel too.

One last thing, we saw a real big variety of apartments and standards, pictures never tell you the whole story. So beware you can only be sure of a place until you see it. You might also be subject to bait & switch, so be prepared and complain in that case - get a discount if standard is not what you expect or should be.

[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]As everyone mentioned forget hotels, though if you don't want to pay deposit upfront and rent without seeing, just book a night or two in a hotel and then you can go and see many places the next day. I saw some of Juan and Mery flats but they didn't have a 3 weeks continuous place available for us (and this was in low season Oct !? we wanted 2bed/2bath). Then we went around just asking at the receptions of buildings and some contacts I had from web, and soon saw nearly 10/15 flats. Negotiated the one we liked and moved in - no hassle. Though you need some Spanish I guess, AND a .[/QUOTE]It's true that apartments are available, and in some of the newest buildings in front of the beach at Boca Grande. Just walk in asking to see something. Some awesome pads, and NEW. Looking at some of these buildings at night, you few lights. Empty units, absentee owners. Have been quoted some outrageous prices at times, though have gotten an excellent 3-br for $160 a night. Doorman dialed the owner in Miami, we talked, he gives us the keys and we hand over the cash, USD. Guest friendly, of course.

[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Just got back from 3 weeks in CTG with a buddy, I'm not a big writer so I try to post some feedback when I get a chance. Right now I'm coping with serious pu**y withdrawal in the sex prison. Damn it's hard, so I'm just going to say something about apartments.

As everyone mentioned forget hotels, though if you don't want to pay deposit upfront and rent without seeing, just book a night or two in a hotel and then you can go and see many places the next day. I saw some of Juan and Mery flats but they didn't have a 3 weeks continuous place available for us (and this was in low season Oct! We wanted 2bed/2bath). Then we went around just asking at the receptions of buildings and some contacts I had from web, and soon saw nearly 10/15 flats. Negotiated the one we liked and moved in. No hassle. Though you need some Spanish I guess, AND a phone (get a SIM card from any shop, I got Movistar and found it VERY expensive, I heard Tigo is cheaper, don't know by how much. All have their own shop in Bocagrande.

. You can also just go to the guys in street corners who have phones for use in Bocagrande (have a sign says "Llamadas 150"), or even any store in Laguito, you can make a local/mobile call for 150-300 pesos per minute.

I think even booking in advance with Juan or Mery (both speak English) can't go much wrong. But make sure before you pay any more money when you arrive you check EVERYTHING in the flat, remember modem internet requires top-up (22k peso for a week) and it's slow. If something is not working, keep some money and say you pay when it's working properly. Clear up all fees for cleaning, towels etc.. Try not to pay security deposit, to be returned later (we didn't). You might not see that again. Also they charge 5k-10k or something like that for registration at the reception (make sure you don't have to pay that for chicas. This could be a side-earner for receptionists, check and clear it right at the beginning with owner and receptionist present together.). These are general advise not particularly for Juan/Mery. I'm sure you have less issue with them as guys here use them all the time.

As for living in Bocagrande or Laguito there is not a big difference really, it's 5-10 minutes walk (more restaurant options in BG. We only ate there). The biggest issue is noise, no matter where you are, you are up at 7am because of unbelievable noise. All kind of noise that you can not imagine!

For proximity, you want to be near Hollywood beach (5 minutes from Laguito/BG, though longer if staying further down BG). The beach is where Laguito/BG meet. That's where WG hang out. LDV is very near to there too. For everything else you need to taxi back and forth (5k day, 6K night fixed price to center or vice versa from either of these places.). We walked to BG from Laguito every night for dinner 8/9pm, no problem. Generally there are so much military and police in BG/Laguito/Center, I don't thing anyone dares to try anything.

For temporary hotel stay, worth mentioning small hotels in BG on the street parallel to San Martin (Cra 3). Note difference between Cra, Carrera, and Calle, I think it's Cra 4, and just before Olypmica supermarket, there are 5 or more hotels in a row (I never checked them or asked for prices, but saw a lot of Colombians stay there, so assume reasonable prices). But we stayed in Estrela Oceania next to Hilton in Laguito for two nights (not sure if GF, never asked. We were two guys in a twin room, so no option for chicas really!). It's a good price if you book on Expedia. Co. Uk, nice hotel too.

One last thing, we saw a real big variety of apartments and standards, pictures never tell you the whole story. So beware you can only be sure of a place until you see it. You might also be subject to bait & switch, so be prepared and complain in that case. Get a discount if standard is not what you expect or should be.[/QUOTE]I like how you operate. You simply made your own opportunity. Yes, dealing with Juan and Mery are probably the easy solution but not the only ones. You will probably find better values with your method and a little footwork. I hope if other guys try the is method that they report back with there new finds.

I have just make the initial one night's PayPal deposit.

Have you alrealdy rented apartment cent302?

I know it is hard to find, but here is the Thread for it.

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[QUOTE=Math92]I have just make the initial one night's PayPal deposit.

Have you alrealdy rented apartment cent302?[/QUOTE]I have Playa Mar 302 rented for next week.

I am not familar with Cent 302

Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.

To start with the COP was very strong when I was there, 1790 pesos for a dollar (or even lower on some days). So at first CTG seemed quite expensive. But if you work with say 2500 (only a 1.5 year ago, then it's not so bad. So if COP loose value again, prices will be in line with DR and Thai really, and much cheaper than Brazil. I think Argentina/DR peso is quite low now, though I'm not sure about their inflation. Thai Baht is also staying strangely strong.

Chicas operate in a few main locations/styles in CTG. We have freelancers in LDV, and some at the beach - the beach girls mainly operate under Tony and his guards, so you either pay them directly or the girls pay them out of their own take (that is if you pick them off the beach yourself without Tony's intervention - I think they get permission to hang out !). Of course there are some real free agents that I picked up, they were mainly new comers and perhaps later will go/operator under Tony and his clans...

The whole scene is very subdued at the beach and street, under watchful eyes of loads of police who do not interfere as far as I could see. By the way they provide excellent security, very safe in BG, Laguito and old town (centro). Beyond that I can't comment (I heard mixed stories and never went to there).

The final operators work in casas/bars and need you to pay salida (multa) to get them out. This is like Isis (in centro behind Tu Candela) and Chica Linda and Casique (sp?), Aquarious (sp?) further beyond in El Bosque area. We picked up a few girls from the beach that worked in the above at night and gave me all the lowdown on what is like there - we went to Isis but didn't like it, expensive and same girls you can find in LDV (though a little striptease they had is not bad but we just got to the end of it and they are far and few in between). 12k beer, no entrerance. LDV has 10k beer no enterance. Tu candela has 10k enterance that you can exchange for a bear or deduct from bottle cost. (Tu Candela occasionally has freelancers but they are normally not allowed to go in - so go check it out but have plan B).

Generally I liked the beach and freelancer scene so that's where we hanged most of the time. My info is quite limited on the casas/bars with salida, only hearsay.

Colombian girls, even pros, are very passive. They never come to you. Even LDV only has a few braves that come to you without you initiating a smile or a nod. So you can't be shy there. On the beach or street they just look and if you are lucky a smile or say "massaje ?" and walk away. You have to go to them and talk (or else ask the boys on the beach). Fortunately for me I speak some Spanish and have no shame what-so-ever !!! I even go right up to the normal girls and say hello if I get a signal. So I was picking them like cherries off the tree. Tony and his crowd were so impressed they didn't even once offered us chicas !?!?

I also love dancing salsa and all the latin music. So went to Cafe Havana a few times and found a couple of freelancers from there - again you can't be shy and it helps if you can move with the music a bit. It's only open Thr, Fri, Sat and it's 7000p entery and 7000p beer. It gets really packed so only go there if you like live salsa music.

LDV was fun, I just bought drinks for the girls and dance with them and get their phone number. Then call them during the afternoon or evening for better price/performance. At night these girls are different kind of animals. Pretty hard pros - though there are a few gems you need to look more to find. A bit better during the day and before the real wolf come out !? By the way all of the go to Electra later till 5/6am - we never went there. That's why if you even pull them at 3am, they finish you in 30min or 1 hour and off to Electra for more !

Also LDV has the biggest concentration of silicon - in fact a lot of the girls in the street and affluent Colombian tourists all had fake tits (even asses I think !). A real silicon valley. Though I think CTG (specially WG and affluent tourists are not a good representative of the masses in the country). I don't particularly like it but despite my best effort twice I only found out in bed that I struck fake....!?

For street action go straight to Plaza de Reloj at night (after 10/11pm), right in front of Tu Candela and El Fidel. You can sit at El Fidel tables outside and the local beer at El Fidel is 3000p all night. Quite reasonable if you ask me. Most of the SW are to be avoided. But you occasionally get some new comers who hang around there. They are just visiting from other cities for a week or two to make money. I met a few of them on the beach and later at night in the plaza. The better looking ones later got a job in the casa (they told me), others just hang around the beach and plaza.

Also there are girls walking around in Laguito around 6/7pm that smile and say "massaje", you can stop and chat with them. These are lower standard of course, a bit cheaper but unfortunately you still get a rush job. Because they have they rounds to do !? They go from apartment to apartment ringing places they visited (I used to watch this from our balcony). They started ringing ours after we did a couple - nice if you need a snack !

I think for LDV you need to have certain standards and/or know people, these girls (SW and what I call visiting, new comers) would not appear there at night. They are actually a good deal, cheap and stay longer ( not SW but visiting/new comers even stay TLN).

CTG is a weekend town, bear this in mind when planning a trip, very quite and some places dead or close during the week (many Colombian tourist come at weekends only). On Wed night I went to at least 4/5 clubs and ended up back at LDV because there were so quite. Even LDV had lower attendance (though it was Oct, low season).

Now the prices. At LDV they start with 400k or 300k, quickly down to 200k. If you haggle they do you for 150k at night, but that would be a rush job - 30min max, very mechanical but they do all the standard stuff (BBBJ is not very common, one refused it no matter what I said - I am very good at negotiating and persuading, but not this one ... !?)

Some LDV chicas will do you for 100k during the afternoon/evening and stay a bit longer and more relax, but some insist on 150k. Of course I haggled them down to even 80k (+taxi) but I could clearly see they weren't happy, it was the quite time in Oct, so were still accepting...

Of course beach and street chicas go for less (note, not the LDV or Tony's girls on the beach, but the other ones, under visitng/new comers I mentioned). I got these for 75k plus 5k or 10k taxi. Even did a couple for 60k from street. Though I'm a compulsive haggler and I don't recommend it to others. Sometime I think I go over the top and that affects the service, who knows, you could pay more but still get the same service...

Anyway, at the end I found a real stunner of 21 which gave me excellent GFE, so I took her out dining and dancing and fun all night for the last 4 days of my stay. What luck !?

The quality of the chicas here is very high, you will be well surprised, but they are mostly very hardcore/mechanical. For finding the gems you need Spanish and skill and of course luck. If the flight from UK wasn't 19 hours !? I would visit CTG regularly, but for now I can fly direct to DR and Thai, so I'm off there for my next two trips...

If I can answer any questions to do with chicas and/or normal touristy stuff in CTG, just ask - though they are a lot more Colombia & CTG expert here that can help.

Cheers,

A five star report Uzinuzin, chock full of information, free of self-aggrandizement, helpful to newbies, very descriptive. Thanks for taking the time to write it all up.
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.[/QUOTE]

The Cartagena lists tab is very helpful as I was looking for the location of the Elektra Club as I think my apt. is close by.

Elektra Club is on Calle 35 #7-28, Calle de la Tablada, San Diego barrio. I am staying at a place on Calle de la Tablada so it is obviously near. Should be easy pickings given my location...

I am arriving on Thursday evening in CTG and will spend the weekend. After that, I will be traveling around Colombia a bit. Perhaps, Viila de Ley, San Gil, Barichara, and Bucaramanga. Anyone been to these places? It is my 2nd trip to COL as I visited this past September. I went to MDE in Sept. but would be bored to go back again this soon.

Also, I was thinking it might be fun to go to the beauty pageant in CTG this weekend. On the other hand it might be too expensive or difficult to get tickets at this late juncture. Anyone ever gone to this or know where it is held?

[QUOTE=Cubfan1963]I have Playa Mar 302 rented for next week.

I am not familar with Cent 302[/QUOTE]Cent 302 is located in Edificio Torrecentauro.

It is near Hotel Hilton in El Laguito area.

[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.

[/QUOTE]


Excellent report, and very informative; thanks for sharing. I concur about the newcomers/visitors...they can make for some really enjoyable, non-rushed, GFE. I find them to be best fit for my preferences.

Thanks again!

This was a good report. Only thing I disagree with is the comment about bbbj not common. I have been there many times, and have maybe had one girl in many try to use a condom for bj and once I told her nicely to be on her way, she went for it. Other then that I enjoyed your report. If you treat the girls nice it goes a long way.


[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.

To start with the COP was very strong when I was there, 1790 pesos for a dollar (or even lower on some days). So at first CTG seemed quite expensive. But if you work with say 2500 (only a 1.5 year ago, then it's not so bad. So if COP loose value again, prices will be in line with DR and Thai really, and much cheaper than Brazil. I think Argentina/DR peso is quite low now, though I'm not sure about their inflation. Thai Baht is also staying strangely strong.

Chicas operate in a few main locations/styles in CTG. We have freelancers in LDV, and some at the beach - the beach girls mainly operate under Tony and his guards, so you either pay them directly or the girls pay them out of their own take (that is if you pick them off the beach yourself without Tony's intervention - I think they get permission to hang out !). Of course there are some real free agents that I picked up, they were mainly new comers and perhaps later will go/operator under Tony and his clans...

The whole scene is very subdued at the beach and street, under watchful eyes of loads of police who do not interfere as far as I could see. By the way they provide excellent security, very safe in BG, Laguito and old town (centro). Beyond that I can't comment (I heard mixed stories and never went to there).

The final operators work in casas/bars and need you to pay salida (multa) to get them out. This is like Isis (in centro behind Tu Candela) and Chica Linda and Casique (sp?), Aquarious (sp?) further beyond in El Bosque area. We picked up a few girls from the beach that worked in the above at night and gave me all the lowdown on what is like there - we went to Isis but didn't like it, expensive and same girls you can find in LDV (though a little striptease they had is not bad but we just got to the end of it and they are far and few in between). 12k beer, no entrerance. LDV has 10k beer no enterance. Tu candela has 10k enterance that you can exchange for a bear or deduct from bottle cost. (Tu Candela occasionally has freelancers but they are normally not allowed to go in - so go check it out but have plan B).

Generally I liked the beach and freelancer scene so that's where we hanged most of the time. My info is quite limited on the casas/bars with salida, only hearsay.

Colombian girls, even pros, are very passive. They never come to you. Even LDV only has a few braves that come to you without you initiating a smile or a nod. So you can't be shy there. On the beach or street they just look and if you are lucky a smile or say "massaje ?" and walk away. You have to go to them and talk (or else ask the boys on the beach). Fortunately for me I speak some Spanish and have no shame what-so-ever !!! I even go right up to the normal girls and say hello if I get a signal. So I was picking them like cherries off the tree. Tony and his crowd were so impressed they didn't even once offered us chicas !?!?

I also love dancing salsa and all the latin music. So went to Cafe Havana a few times and found a couple of freelancers from there - again you can't be shy and it helps if you can move with the music a bit. It's only open Thr, Fri, Sat and it's 7000p entery and 7000p beer. It gets really packed so only go there if you like live salsa music.

LDV was fun, I just bought drinks for the girls and dance with them and get their phone number. Then call them during the afternoon or evening for better price/performance. At night these girls are different kind of animals. Pretty hard pros - though there are a few gems you need to look more to find. A bit better during the day and before the real wolf come out !? By the way all of the go to Electra later till 5/6am - we never went there. That's why if you even pull them at 3am, they finish you in 30min or 1 hour and off to Electra for more !

Also LDV has the biggest concentration of silicon - in fact a lot of the girls in the street and affluent Colombian tourists all had fake tits (even asses I think !). A real silicon valley. Though I think CTG (specially WG and affluent tourists are not a good representative of the masses in the country). I don't particularly like it but despite my best effort twice I only found out in bed that I struck fake....!?

For street action go straight to Plaza de Reloj at night (after 10/11pm), right in front of Tu Candela and El Fidel. You can sit at El Fidel tables outside and the local beer at El Fidel is 3000p all night. Quite reasonable if you ask me. Most of the SW are to be avoided. But you occasionally get some new comers who hang around there. They are just visiting from other cities for a week or two to make money. I met a few of them on the beach and later at night in the plaza. The better looking ones later got a job in the casa (they told me), others just hang around the beach and plaza.

Also there are girls walking around in Laguito around 6/7pm that smile and say "massaje", you can stop and chat with them. These are lower standard of course, a bit cheaper but unfortunately you still get a rush job. Because they have they rounds to do !? They go from apartment to apartment ringing places they visited (I used to watch this from our balcony). They started ringing ours after we did a couple - nice if you need a snack !

I think for LDV you need to have certain standards and/or know people, these girls (SW and what I call visiting, new comers) would not appear there at night. They are actually a good deal, cheap and stay longer ( not SW but visiting/new comers even stay TLN).

CTG is a weekend town, bear this in mind when planning a trip, very quite and some places dead or close during the week (many Colombian tourist come at weekends only). On Wed night I went to at least 4/5 clubs and ended up back at LDV because there were so quite. Even LDV had lower attendance (though it was Oct, low season).

Now the prices. At LDV they start with 400k or 300k, quickly down to 200k. If you haggle they do you for 150k at night, but that would be a rush job - 30min max, very mechanical but they do all the standard stuff (BBBJ is not very common, one refused it no matter what I said - I am very good at negotiating and persuading, but not this one ... !?)

Some LDV chicas will do you for 100k during the afternoon/evening and stay a bit longer and more relax, but some insist on 150k. Of course I haggled them down to even 80k (+taxi) but I could clearly see they weren't happy, it was the quite time in Oct, so were still accepting...

Of course beach and street chicas go for less (note, not the LDV or Tony's girls on the beach, but the other ones, under visitng/new comers I mentioned). I got these for 75k plus 5k or 10k taxi. Even did a couple for 60k from street. Though I'm a compulsive haggler and I don't recommend it to others. Sometime I think I go over the top and that affects the service, who knows, you could pay more but still get the same service...

Anyway, at the end I found a real stunner of 21 which gave me excellent GFE, so I took her out dining and dancing and fun all night for the last 4 days of my stay. What luck !?

The quality of the chicas here is very high, you will be well surprised, but they are mostly very hardcore/mechanical. For finding the gems you need Spanish and skill and of course luck. If the flight from UK wasn't 19 hours !? I would visit CTG regularly, but for now I can fly direct to DR and Thai, so I'm off there for my next two trips...

If I can answer any questions to do with chicas and/or normal touristy stuff in CTG, just ask - though they are a lot more Colombia & CTG expert here that can help.

Cheers,[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can]This was a good report. Only thing I disagree with is the comment about bbbj not common. I have been there many times, and have maybe had one girl in many try to use a condom for bj and once I told her nicely to be on her way, she went for it. Other then that I enjoyed your report. If you treat the girls nice it goes a long way.[/QUOTE]

Come to think of it I should give more details about BJ. In fact I only had that one girl refusing BBBJ, what happened was that my buddy reported more refusal (he was bitching about it so much it suck in my mind - you can't blame him, for him, and me, CBJ is useless).

Perhaps it all depends - though he's older than me, he's always very clean and no obvious reason for refusals. I think he perhaps had about 50% refusal, while I had 9%...... !?

I am in CTG now and was looking for Club Elektra, which is incorrectly listed under a List Report as located on Calle de la Tablada. It's actually on Calle de la Tablon, which is a couple blocks from the aforementioned street. The sign on the front entry of Elektra said that only members or their guests can enter but I supposed that is an easy requirement to overcome. If anyone knows any particulars about that entry requirement, please let me know...

Just checked out the location as I am staying in an apartment a few blocks away, however, the time I walked past the club was around 8am and the place closes at 6am.

PS: It rained hard last night and CTG appeared very slow. It is also Independence weekend and the Museo de Oro is closed as is the Inquistion House until Tuesday or Monday, respectively. Hope the chicas are not on vacation too...

[QUOTE=Tomasb]I am in CTG now and was looking for Club Elektra, which is incorrectly listed under a List Report as located on Calle de la Tablada. It's actually on Calle de la Tablon, which is a couple blocks from the aforementioned street. The sign on the front entry of Elektra said that only members or their guests can enter but I supposed that is an easy requirement to overcome. If anyone knows any particulars about that entry requirement, please let me know.

Just checked out the location as I am staying in an apartment a few blocks away, however, the time I walked past the club was around 8am and the place closes at 6am.

PS: It rained hard last night and CTG appeared very slow. It is also Independence weekend and the Museo de Oro is closed as is the Inquistion House until Tuesday or Monday, respectively. Hope the chicas are not on vacation too.[/QUOTE]I just returned from CTG Wednesday night. The girls are definitely in town. In fact the MS. Colombia pagent is going on right now. I saw several doing videos around Centro. You can't miss them.

LDV was very crowded at earlier then normal hours. I walked in at 10: 30 on Monday and there were already about a dozen women there. In the past that doesn't happen until almost midnight.

I don't know what happened about my report regarding the location of Elektra but it appears that the report was shortlived on the board. I went to ELEKTRA last night and once again, it is located on Calle de la Tablon; not Calle de la Tablada as a list from this board indicates. I know this for certain because I am staying on Calle de la Tablada and the remaining part of the address would have put the locations within two steps of the front entrance of my apartment. A few other things about the club. It actually (at least this weekend) opens at 2am and closes at 6am; not 1am. There also was no cover, though a Cuba Libre set me back $15 COP or about $8USD.

It's also much nicer inside than I expected. From the outer entry, it appears to be a complete dump but the inside is setup decently and though its not quite Tu Candela, it has a decent ambience.

Some of the girls are quite attractive, a few real stunners though many of the great looking one's appeared to already have dates. In the mix though are plenty of gordita's and aggressive girls. One grabbed my crotch several times as did one or two others. It got worse as the evening (early morning progressed). You had to avoid eye contact (like TR in Lima) as much as possible or the fugly one's would be all over you. One wench came over several times and smelled of stale cigarettes and 18hrs without a shower. Imagine having to envision waking up to that?

I finally tried to attempt the option one of the board members recently suggested about going for a day session. I selected a very shapley early 30's blond in a tight white dress and asked for her phone number to meet at my apartment during the day. She was not too thrilled by this approach but eventually relented and gave me her#. She also wanted $300COP, which was probalby the opening price though not sure if that was for two hours the next day or if she was available at two o'clock in the afternoon. If I do decide to call, I will take into account how unfriendly (i.e. hardcore)she was after our conversation where she provided her number. All of a sudden, she could not be bothered to talk to me and killed any chemistry we might have had. So it is not very likely I will get together with her unless her price is cut in half.

I finally stumbled out near closing time empty handed but I was not feeling all that great so will save my powder for another night. In general, the girls do appear pretty hard core and if the price the one girl asked is the norm, then over rated. When it gets to the point where I can go to Las Vegas instead...

Elektra's a funny place. My guess it that it's 60% LDV girls there who still haven't hooked-up for the night, the rest are from the other CTG clubs. However, as well as these, I've also noticed some several druggies there who are properly hardcore. I made the mistake once of hooking up with a girl I'd never seen before. We went back to my apartment in Laguito. She was in the bathroom for about 15 minutes. i asked what she was doing and she said 'I was having a shit' (you knew the Colombianas were sexy, right?). We did the deed and she left an hour later. The next morning I discovered blood on my pillow case, then I looked in the bathroom and rifled through the trash can to discover straws and lots of blood-stained tissues. There are lots of recreational drug users in CTG, hell I'm one of them. This girl was lot more than that.

On the other hand, I've also noticed that although some of the others can appear hardcore at first, it's often just a front. I've had many experiences where the first time seems very hardcore but quickly evolves into much more GFE. My impression is that girls there like to preserve face amongst their girlfriends.

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[QUOTE=Tomasb]I don't know what happened about my report regarding the location of Elektra but it appears that the report was shortlived on the board. I went to ELEKTRA last night and once again, it is located on Calle de la Tablon; not Calle de la Tablada as a list from this board indicates. I know this for certain because I am staying on Calle de la Tablada and the remaining part of the address would have put the locations within two steps of the front entrance of my apartment. A few other things about the club. It actually (at least this weekend) opens at 2am and closes at 6am; not 1am. There also was no cover, though a Cuba Libre set me back $15 COP or about $8USD.

It's also much nicer inside than I expected. From the outer entry, it appears to be a complete dump but the inside is setup decently and though its not quite Tu Candela, it has a decent ambience.

Some of the girls are quite attractive, a few real stunners though many of the great looking one's appeared to already have dates. In the mix though are plenty of gordita's and aggressive girls. One grabbed my crotch several times as did one or two others. It got worse as the evening (early morning progressed). You had to avoid eye contact (like TR in Lima) as much as possible or the fugly one's would be all over you. One wench came over several times and smelled of stale cigarettes and 18hrs without a shower. Imagine having to envision waking up to that?

I finally tried to attempt the option one of the board members recently suggested about going for a day session. I selected a very shapley early 30's blond in a tight white dress and asked for her phone number to meet at my apartment during the day. She was not too thrilled by this approach but eventually relented and gave me her#. She also wanted $300COP, which was probalby the opening price though not sure if that was for two hours the next day or if she was available at two o'clock in the afternoon. If I do decide to call, I will take into account how unfriendly (i.e. hardcore)she was after our conversation where she provided her number. All of a sudden, she could not be bothered to talk to me and killed any chemistry we might have had. So it is not very likely I will get together with her unless her price is cut in half.

I finally stumbled out near closing time empty handed but I was not feeling all that great so will save my powder for another night. In general, the girls do appear pretty hard core and if the price the one girl asked is the norm, then over rated. When it gets to the point where I can go to Las Vegas instead...[/QUOTE]

I wanted to add a few more observations about ELEKTRA CLUB since I am planning on going again this evening or should I say this morning. Last night, I arrived at around 3am and it was almost empty. Virtually no chicas and a few random guys. Well, shortly after that it started to become more crowded, however, it was more of a sausage fest than anything else. Not good, as that disproportion is not going to help the pricing! These are quite different odds from LDV as my only time there a few months ago, it was all girls and hardly any guys. However, since I am staying a few blocks away, I don't have a lot of interest in taking a taxi to the LDV since most end up at ELEKTRA anyway.

As the morning progressed, the odds gradually changed with more women than men. Observing the antics of the girls was pretty humorous as I was sitting by the large mirror near the entryway and several came over to 'fix their hair', and shake their booty all the while attempting to make eye contact. I usually don't smoke but there is an outdoor cig room in the back and I think I will bring my cigars tonite as that seems a better room to assess the talent. It is quite well lit and any flaws are easily seen, including mine (lol). One girl who was flirting with me in the dark inside section of the club sneered at me when I beckoned to her in the smoking area. Hey, lighten up, remember chica I am paying you, not the other way around.

Also, today I took a cab to La Boquilla, a tiny beach hamlet about 7k from CTG, as my LP guide suggested it was a good place for lunch. Guys, do not bother. It had been raining, the place was deserted and muddy with an ugly beach. Then some guy grabbed the taxi by the side handle as we drove to the beach and tried to direct the taxi driver to one of the deserted bamboo shacks masquerading as a restaurant. He literally held on to the car and ran with it for about 200 yds with the taxi driver locking all the doors and yelling at the guy to get his slimy hands off his taxi...about as third world as can be....Hysterical to think about it now, but a bit disconcerting while it was going on.

Thought it was appropriate to do a follow-up about my Elektra visit last evening or early morning. Showed up around 3am after almost falling asleep and coaxing my tired ass out of bed. Walked down two blocks to the club -- one advantage to staying in El Centro.

Spotted a very petite young chica who was wearing a simple sundress and talking to a black girl who had been a bit agressive with me on the prior occasion in the club. When the black girl walked by a few minutes later, I asked her about the other girl. She promptly went over and told the girl to come over, which she did. I was concerned about this girl's age but she turned out to be 20. A smoking hot little girl who I could almost wrap my hands around her waist and I have small hands! Within 15 minutes, we are dirty dancing (is that what they call Salsa north of the border). Around that time, I saw another girl across the bar gesturing towards me. I quickly realized she was the girl I rented for a day on San Andreas Island in September. I wrote a report about it at the time to describe the fantastic day/evening with her. I had tried to contact her on this trip but her phone did not appear to be working.

Naturally, I wanted to talk to her but did not want to break the magic with the other girl and my San Andreas friend was smart enough not to come over. After several minutes, my petite friend said she need to visit the ladies room and I immediately took advantage of the opening. I went over and exchanged pleasantries with Ms. San Andreas and got her new number. Since she is actually from MDE, I did not determine whether she was visiting from there or was still on SAN ANDRES. After a few minutes, I strolled back to my original location. MS. Petite did not appear. Finally, I tracked her down in the cigarette room pouting and showing a new founded zero interest in me. She proceeded to completely blow me off and quoted $200COP for a 1/2 hour all the while complaining she was not mad at me.

Eventually, I gave up and stepped outside the bar to look for Ms. San Andreas who apparently had left in the interim. Then Ms. Petite came out of the club and with barely a glance at me or a goodbye strolled down the street by herself.

Now, I am totally exasperated. Spoke to one MDE chica who wanted $200COP (originally asked for$300COP but quickly went down to $200). However, no kissing allowed which is a total turnoff to me. Forgot GFE in those instances. To make a long story short, the black girl who had provided the original introduction came over. We quickly agreed on $150COP for the rest of the morning and she was spectacular. Totally GFE and a sweet girl to boot. I frankly was expecting the opposite due to the events of the rest of the evening but she made up for it. She just left my apartment and I will probably see her tonite at the ELEKTRA. Hoping to see Ms. San Andreas as well.

Believe me, this type of activity does not happen to me in the states! VIVA COLOMBIA!!!

Does Tony the pimp still operate off the beach?

Whats his opening offer for a chica nowadays? I know he was stupid expensive when I was there a few years ago, but his opening offer would be interesting to compare to when I mongered hard.

I was getting 70/80cop on the streets, around 100cop out of LDV. I suspect its near doubled reading these reports.

[QUOTE=Biffa]Does Tony the pimp still operate off the beach?

Whats his opening offer for a chica nowadays? I know he was stupid expensive when I was there a few years ago, but his opening offer would be interesting to compare to when I mongered hard.

I was getting 70/80cop on the streets, around 100cop out of LDV. I suspect its near doubled reading these reports.[/QUOTE]

Tony's still in Playa Hollywood. In all my dealings with him, he's never mentioned an amount. Instead, it's always been left up to you and the chica. The chica then generally tips Tony 20 mil cop. for the introduction to you. He just makes the introduction. At least that's been my experience, but I imagine others may have had a different experience.

That being said, the typical rate can depend on length of time, etc., and can run from 70 - 80 mil to 150 mil. Again, just depends on all the variables, particularly whether s/t or TLN.

If anyone saw my prior report from yesterday, you would have read that I claimed to have met a girl who I initially met in San Andreas a few months ago. I guess she was on my mind as the girl from ELEKTRA turned out NOT to be the same chica. I called the chica I met at ELEKTRA the next morning to arrange a rendezvous that evening and she seemed very confused as I was asking for her by the wrong name. She finally decided to meet that evening but it was like pulling teeth and she appeared two hours late.

Since I was hanging out at a local bar down the street from my apartment in El Centro, it did not matter much to me if she showed at all as I had just met a hot little costena from Sucre and her Bogata buddies while waiting for her appearance.

The girl finally showed and after several minutes of conversation, I came to the conclusion she was not the same girl from SAN ANDREAS but had a quite similar appearance. I told her about the confusion and she explained her confusion as well. She laughed it off and utimately we joined up with my new friends and we drank/danced together for an hour or so. After that I persuaded her to come down the street to my apartment. Within 10 minutes, I had her pantyless on the bed and since I specialize in DATY was offered ample opportunity to practice. She was one of the wettest girls I have ever encounted and I had to flip the sheets this morning. Needless to say, a great time was had by all, albeit for only about 20 minute, as her sister and mother kept calling her the whole time we were bangin away. How rude! As a result of their persisent calls, she had to leave. Apparently, she has a 4 year old due to an 'accidente' and the father is not around (imagine that).

I gave her $15cop for the cab as she lived 1/2 hour away. No other costs were discussed. I assume when she was in Elektra, she was part of the working crew but since she lives a 1/ 2 hour away, I wonder if it is possible she didn't know the activites going on at the club and randomly strolled in with her girlfriends. Seems unlikely but nevertheless, pulling a freebie is always nice...I may see her tonite and we discussed going to Taganga if it ever stops raining...In closing can I add she was a very nice fun girl and so was the one I took out of ELEKTRA the night before.

Also, these two experiences and my experiences in SAN ANDRES are so dissimilar to the type of girls I seem to meet in Lima.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]

... I persuaded her to come down the street to my apartment. Within 10 minutes, I had her pantyless on the bed and since I specialize in DATY was offered ample opportunity to practice ... Needless to say, a great time was had by all, albeit for only about 20 minute, as her sister and mother kept calling her the whole time we were bangin away. How rude! ...

[/QUOTE]

Glad you're having fun amigo!!

Don't ya hate those damn cel phone calls while trying to enjoy time with a chica though??

Kinda kills the moment.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper]Tony's still in Playa Hollywood. In all my dealings with him, he's never mentioned an amount. Instead, it's always been left up to you and the chica. The chica then generally tips Tony 20 mil cop. for the introduction to you. He just makes the introduction. At least that's been my experience, but I imagine others may have had a different experience.

That being said, the typical rate can depend on length of time, etc., and can run from 70 - 80 mil to 150 mil. Again, just depends on all the variables, particularly whether s/t or TLN.[/QUOTE]Will Tony talk to anyone you are interested in meeting or just the chicas he is pimping?

Quick question for the board. I met an attractive prepago in Cartagena before I left CTG yesterday to travel to other parts of the country. However, I am returning to CTG later in the trip and I told her that I was looking for company for a 3 or 4 day visit to Taganga and Tayrona, which are about a 4 hour bus ride to these beach and national park areas near Santa Marta.

She was very receptive to this idea and I told her that I would call her later in the week to discuss details. I only met her for about a 1/2 hour along with her girlfriend in the beer drinking area in front of Fidel's so I do not have any further experiences with her. But this girl and her friend were personable and gorgeous. The girl who I invited is in her early 30's (I am 62) with one child, quite tall, long honey blond hair (i.e. like a 40's actress), and has almost alabaster skin. Incidentally, her friend (Jacqueline) is pitch black, beautiful, with an incredible body. They make quite the combo!

Anyway, how much would I expect to pay for her 'guia' services? Obviously, the hotel and food is part of the cost and it is a free vacation for her but I imagine she might expect other compensation. Any suggestions or experiences would be greatly appreciated...


[QUOTE=Artful]Elektra's a funny place. My guess it that it's 60% LDV girls there who still haven't hooked-up for the night, the rest are from the other CTG clubs. However, as well as these, I've also noticed some several druggies there who are properly hardcore. I made the mistake once of hooking up with a girl I'd never seen before. We went back to my apartment in Laguito. She was in the bathroom for about 15 minutes. i asked what she was doing and she said 'I was having a shit' (you knew the Colombianas were sexy, right?). We did the deed and she left an hour later. The next morning I discovered blood on my pillow case, then I looked in the bathroom and rifled through the trash can to discover straws and lots of blood-stained tissues. There are lots of recreational drug users in CTG, hell I'm one of them. This girl was lot more than that.

On the other hand, I've also noticed that although some of the others can appear hardcore at first, it's often just a front. I've had many experiences where the first time seems very hardcore but quickly evolves into much more GFE. My impression is that girls there like to preserve face amongst their girlfriends.

A[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ho Lover1]Will Tony talk to anyone you are interested in meeting or just the chicas he is pimping?[/QUOTE]


Anyone! He has no fear (or as others would say, no manners) and will have that chica sitting next to you in a blink of the eye. On several occassions I've asked him does he know the "chica over there" and what's her story? He'll say no, but then ask me if I want to meet her and before I can even answer he's already walking away to speak to her. I haven't a clue what he says to 'em, but whatever it is, it works more times than not.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]Quick question for the board. I met an attractive prepago in Cartagena before I left CTG yesterday to travel to other parts of the country. However, I am returning to CTG later in the trip and I told her that I was looking for company for a 3 or 4 day visit to Taganga and Tayrona, which are about a 4 hour bus ride to these beach and national park areas near Santa Marta.

She was very receptive to this idea and I told her that I would call her later in the week to discuss details. I only met her for about a 1/2 hour along with her girlfriend in the beer drinking area in front of Fidel's so I do not have any further experiences with her. But this girl and her friend were personable and gorgeous. The girl who I invited is in her early 30's (I am 62) with one child, quite tall, long honey blond hair (i.e. like a 40's actress), and has almost alabaster skin. Incidentally, her friend (Jacqueline) is pitch black, beautiful, with an incredible body. They make quite the combo!

Anyway, how much would I expect to pay for her 'guia' services? Obviously, the hotel and food is part of the cost and it is a free vacation for her but I imagine she might expect other compensation. Any suggestions or experiences would be greatly appreciated...[/QUOTE]

Tomas:

I'll answer your question with my opinion but before I do I gotta tell ya dude, I think your whole plan is bad. A flawed premise. You hardly know these 2 pro-babes, you're a gringo in your sixties, and you're about to invite both or one of them for a 3 or 4 day all expense paid vacation to Santa Marta?

IMO, you'll be viewed by them as nothing but a walking ATM. Hang with her in CTG for a few days and take her to one of the islands for a day trip or two but don't commit to a long multi-day overland trip. It could go bad real easy. Real bad. Besides, there's P4P in Santa Marta & El Rodadero. Why be burdened?

But to answer your question: Knowing that they are pro's and the sky's the limit concerning what they are going to hit you with and you are going to pay bus fares, lodgeing, and supplies plus misc expenses, I would just offer them a little walking around money .

Or, maybe make her your bursor and give her money for all your daily expenses plus a little extra so you know she always has something for herself. She pays all your tabs, grocery bills, etc while you play aloof to all the bill collectors. Just another idea. This would imply some trust on your part towards her that she won't abuse her role.

I'm not cheap but I am an experienced negotiator. They'll hit you sky high, you have to open equally low. Give her your MPP (Maximum Plausible Position).

At most, I would agree to around, maybe,,,, 100K COP per day, includes sex.
Believe me, they'll nibble you for more, but that would be my agreement beforehand. Whatever the amount, get a commitment. Don't leave it vague.

Good luck, Schwmm

[QUOTE=Dashing Don]Hi Delta,

It must have been interesting, meeting yourself like that. Did On The Go show up as well?

To the uninitiated, Deltapilot is the former poster known as Urban Wildlife until, by overwhelming public demand, he was banned. Before that, he was known as On The Go and was also banned after an upheaval in the Thai section a few years ago.

Urban's fin de siecle was a boat trip from Cartagena city beach which had members of the third sex aboard and which was highlighted by the intuitive poster Prov1. The end came quickly after that.[/QUOTE]
I was vics picks but I had to change my handle to john Gault due to a family member who stumbled on to my posts. The truth is I know both deltapilot and urbanwildlife and I can state they are two different people.
Many ,many ISG members know me and have faith in my word. What a shame good guys like Urban were driven from this board. I was with Urban last winter in CTG for three days and we had a blast. This board doesn't need this kind of BS. Wise up and grow up.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]Quick question for the board. I met an attractive prepago in Cartagena before I left CTG yesterday to travel to other parts of the country. However, I am returning to CTG later in the trip and I told her that I was looking for company for a 3 or 4 day visit to Taganga and Tayrona, which are about a 4 hour bus ride to these beach and national park areas near Santa Marta.

She was very receptive to this idea and I told her that I would call her later in the week to discuss details. I only met her for about a 1/2 hour along with her girlfriend in the beer drinking area in front of Fidel's so I do not have any further experiences with her. experiences would be greatly appreciated...[/QUOTE]

Me personally, I'd spend a little time with her in Cartagena, at least a day, to see what she"s really like, if you have chemestry, if she's a hardened money grubber or a sweetheart, etc, etc, before I traveled with her.

A 1/2 hour chat in a bar doesn't really give ya the real scoop.

[QUOTE=Dashing Don]To the uninitiated, Deltapilot is the former poster known as Urban Wildlife until, by overwhelming public demand, he was banned. Before that, he was known as On The Go and was also banned after an upheaval in the Thai section a few years ago.[/QUOTE]I lost count after 15 different handles this Deltapilot had which were all banned. Apparently, he always has several names on this board at one time which results in him talking to himself a lot. I’d guess he keeps track of all these different names and passwords on a spreadsheet.

[QUOTE=John Gault] The truth is I know both deltapilot and urbanwildlife and I can state they are two different people.[/QUOTE]So, how long have you been seeing double? LOL

[QUOTE=Hilltopper]When I read that series of posts, I couldn't help but wonder if Vics Pics knowingly played along or didn't have any idea?[/QUOTE]Urban Wildlife has been known to pick up the tab for drinks and women with the proviso you say something nice about him on the board. Obviously, this was one of those times.

[QUOTE=John Gault]I was vics picks but I had to change my handle to john Gault due to a family member who stumbled on to my posts. The truth is I know both deltapilot and urbanwildlife and I can state they are two different people.
Many ,many ISG members know me and have faith in my word. What a shame good guys like Urban were driven from this board. I was with Urban last winter in CTG for three days and we had a blast. This board doesn't need this kind of BS. Wise up and grow up.[/QUOTE]

Urban was a good guy and we helped each other out a few times. Me personally I never had a problem with him. Can you send him a Salutations from me please?

[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver]I lost count after 15 different handles this Deltapilot had which were all banned. Apparently, he always has several names on this board at one time which results in him talking to himself a lot. I’d guess he keeps track of all these different names and passwords on a spreadsheet.

So, how long have you been seeing double? LOL

Urban Wildlife has been known to pick up the tab for drinks and women with the proviso you say something nice about him on the board. Obviously, this was one of those times.[/QUOTE]
One day guys like you may write a actual trip report. Till that day comes go suck a lemon.

[QUOTE=John Gault] Urban Wildlife then got some girls from there and off to his apartment in Lagito for some fun. We all chiped in 80K and all the girls took there clothes off and danced for a while. The funny thing was the first one to completly disrobe was Urban. That blew my mind, but not the girls as they quickly joined him. Urban is a trip and in two days he killed 4 bottles of Crown Royal. Also I don't think he got 5 hours sleep in the 3 days.[/QUOTE]Wow, hanging out with a 15 time banned, drunken, naked insomniac must have been fabulous however I'd prefer to pick up my own tab and hang out with normal people.

First time in Medellin and staying in nice apartment in El Poblado arranged by helpful Andrew. Walked to Centro de Masajes Pekin. Calle 10A #43A-31, Apt. 201. Hesitant to ring bell, but in dark finally could read Pekin on buzzer. Two girls were there at 7 pm. Both good looking and sweet and none could speak English. Andrea was especially beautiful and wonderful body. Says she's a commercial model and goes to college, of course. 100k for 45 minutes and 25k more BB for BJ. Very personable and spent full time with me, but "amateurish".

[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver]Wow, hanging out with a 15 time banned, drunken, naked insomniac must have been fabulous however I'd prefer to pick up my own tab and hang out with normal people.[/QUOTE]

Very well said.

4 bottles in two days. The skill. What an accomplishment!

Schwmm

Who the fuck cares how many handles the guy had, dont you have anything better to do then keep track of somebodys handles? By the way I have met Urbanwildlife, delta pilot and Vics pics and there all alot of fun. Believe me Urbanwildlife doesnt need to pick up a tab so someone writes something nice about him on a board. As a matter of fact he couldnt fucking care a less if someone writes something nice about him. He is a wealth of knowledge about various country's and a fun guy to hang out with.
As far as hilltopper goes, he has a hard on for Urbanwildlife because Urban was fucking his girl who he thought didnt sell her goods, didnt do drugs and wasnt into other chicas. Well urban was knocking that chic down while she was partying and eating pussy like a crazed dog! Git wit you later !


[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver]I lost count after 15 different handles this Deltapilot had which were all banned. Apparently, he always has several names on this board at one time which results in him talking to himself a lot. I’d guess he keeps track of all these different names and passwords on a spreadsheet.

So, how long have you been seeing double? LOL

Urban Wildlife has been known to pick up the tab for drinks and women with the proviso you say something nice about him on the board. Obviously, this was one of those times.[/QUOTE]

CTG isn’t what it used to be—an influx of Yanks and Spaghetti eaters, the decline of the dollar, strengthening of the Colombian economy (and resultant increase in price), the commercialization of the scene and relative hardness of the chicas, and the appearance of “patrons”—read pimps—all make CTG a bit less appealing than what it was when I initially visited about nine years ago. To boot, Tony’s cocaine habit is roaring out of control (he averages 7 sniffles a minute) and his conduct is genuinely beyond the pale. He tried to charge me 80k pesos for a beer, a coke, and a water for the chica. When I corrected him on it he attempted to “lower” the price to $50. Oh, and NEVER give him your phone number, if you do he will call no less than six bazillion times in 90 minutes.

The scene revolves around the beach girls during the day that go from about 120k to 150k for a shot and the disco girls at night. There is an overlap with the girls between the two scenes but not all beach girls work the discos and vice versa. My biggest surprise was that I often saw the hottest girls serving three different men during the course of a few hours at night. Contrary to my expectations, the girls were mostly interesting in hooking a john, doing the deed for 15-35 minutes, and getting out the door to collect the next one. There is also a new bar called Easy which is run by an American which has a business model which I can’t quite comprehend: It’s a gilry bar with girls that are generally less prettier than the LDV girls but the price is a about 100k pesos more; pay more and get less ***The bar is owned by an American who also owns the strip club in town. Frankly I am surprised that this fellow hasn’t been put out of business yet since the American govt does not look kindly upon Yanks abroad involved in the flesh trade.***

The talent level and service at LDV has certainly declined although there are still some 7’s about an occasional eight to be seen. The price is usually 150k per pop and ~250k for all night, which normally means that after one pop the girl will start to whine, talk on her phone, at which time an argument will ensue which will result in you paying 200k for one pop and an argument. That being said, the uglier the girl is the more likely she will negotiate on her price and keep her word on the length of time that she agreed to stay. After the LDV closes the girl end up in Elektra, a late night disco, where the price may go down a bit, but it’s still one shot and out the door.

***More on this in a different post, but if you are willing to fund party favors for the girls the sex will be much better and they will stay longer; however, I’m generally a very risk averse person and not comfortable with illegal drugs in foreign lands being in my proximity***

CTG is a hot and dirty shithole that’s no longer a great value—food is relatively expensive too. The hookers there are all from other cities and charge too much for what they deliver. The indigenous women of CTG are normally of the shortish, fatish, and darkish variety which don’t do a whole lot for me. I tried the marriage agency thing and was surprised at the number of men that marry women who they don’t share a common tongue with: “What do you mean sir? We only have a few girls that speak a little bit of English…but most of our guys don’t speak Spanish and they still have a successful relationship. “ No wonder why so many of these mail order bride deals end in disaster. One thing which amused me was the career rounding up that occurred: a dental hygienist is advertised as a dentist, a notary public as a lawyer, and the unemployed and hookers as students. It doesn’t really matter, but it further buttresses my observations that the average Americans who goes to a marriage agency has no idea in hell what who he is getting involved with.

I won’t be returning to CTG anytime soon, BOG and MDE are much better places with prettier gals at cheaper prices.

A great Experience: Two of the best four fucks of my life have occurred in CTG. Both involved anal sex—(something I have done four times), both involved the dismissal of the one of the other female parties involved, and both involved the girl in question partaking in party favors.

I was feeling a bit bored in LDV and accepted a rather nonchalant invitation from a table of three hookers to join them. This normally means “hay man, you sat here so you gotta pay the tab” but I noted that they were drinking rum and other booze which didn’t scream imported and expensive so I figured WTF. After a few rounds we agreed for two hours for either 150k per girl for two girls. Another girl at the table, a bit on the plump and old side somehow opted to come along even though I made it clear that she would get no action or money from me. I picked up the tab for the table, about 120k, and off we went. The girls chatted among themselves and asked if I wanted any cocaine. I promptly replied no. The girl then asked for 100k and in a spat of inattentiveness I just kind of handed it over as I was pressing the NFL scores on BB. The pretty faced girl comes back five minutes later with two small balls of aluminum foil and a bag of weed. I just kinda rolled my eyes as we rode back to my apartment chatting about the best clubs in Medellin.

As soon as we entered the apartment the girls savagely attacked the Baileys and began doing lines off of the Economist on my table. They prompted, almost insisted that I partake to, but I pulled a Bill Clinton and grabbed the lit up joint that the third girl out had rolled and acted like I was smoking it when I wasn’t. ***Funny thing is about Slick Willy’s proclamation that he didn’t inhale was that I totally believed him because three times in my life..once in college prior to sex, once in HS, and once in CTG…I had faked like I was smoking MJ when I have never touched the stuff before in my life***

After the Baileys had finished me and the two girls retired to my bedroom where a pretty good 20 minutes of sex ensued. The door was slightly ajar, and as I was getting serviced by the two girls the odd one out kept staring at me intensively. She didn’t abate her eyes and just sat there glaring at me while I pounded her two friends. She even had the indecency to flip me the bird as I was doing her friend doggie. I got up to get a drink after 20 minutes and the girls were magically dressed when I reentered the bedroom and watching MTV. I could do nothing but sigh as there wasn’t anything I could do about the two hours suddenly being cut by almost 70%. I had secretly popped a Viagra in LDV and feared that it would go to waste again. I went into the shower after a making sure that all my valuables were hidden and was in the mist of washing toes when the other chick came into the bathroom, pulled up her dress, and pissed. I beckoned for her to put the paper in the toilet as opposed to the waste bin as the Colombians do—gross—and returned to washing myself.

The next thing the chick was in the shower with me sucking my dick. I protested, but she flipped me off once again. I then noticed that she was actually damn good at what she was doing and we went to my bedroom where she started to toss my salad. All of a sudden she stopped went to the money that I had hidden, counted out a wad, and left the room. About 30 seconds later the other two girls burst into the room, kissed me on my cheek, and were on her way.

I returned my attention back to the no-longer-third-girl out—and she said in accented English “We begin, yes?" What followed was the best sex I had in years. My cock alternated between her moth, her ass, and her **** for the next four hours. Only once before have I rammed a girl’s ass only to have her shove it in her mouth without so much as a courtesy wipe and the sex was awesome both times.

At about 1100 we awoke and she fucked me again. At about 1300 we awoke, ordered a pizza, fucked, and ate. At 1430 I realized that I was nearly out of pesos—although she paid her friends 320k pesos from my stash—and I gave her 117 bucks, 70 Euros, and 83k Pesos and sent her on her way. She never named her price, but wasn’t surprised when I paid her what I did, only lethargically smiling and lazily saying, “ok ,ok ” while I was franticly searching for enough money to roughly equal the commensurate value of the sex I just relieved. It was almost like she was used to giving men the best fuck of their lives.

Well, I agree with some of what you are saying, but the part about hard girls in LDV could not be further from the truth as far as my time there. First off I treat the girls nice, next I have always gotten gfe and none of them tried to leave before the next morning hell some of them were still sleeping in my apartment at 5 pm when I came back from the beach. I have never woke a girl up and asked her to leave. I get up early and usually wake them up and have a quickie and they fall back to sleep. I dont like Medellin, I have never heard or seen a place like LDV in Medellin where I can go in have some drinks and leisurely take a girl out, no charge , no bullshit. Just get up with my date for the night and leave. Thats how I like it. Is there a place in Medellin like that to your knowledge?
And yea Tony will try to rip off anyone he thinks he can, but I like him. Hes just a fucking nut.

[QUOTE=DirkDingy]CTG isn’t what it used to be—an influx of Yanks and Spaghetti eaters, the decline of the dollar, strengthening of the Colombian economy (and resultant increase in price), the commercialization of the scene and relative hardness of the chicas, and the appearance of “patrons”—read pimps—all make CTG a bit less appealing than what it was when I initially visited about nine years ago. To boot, Tony’s cocaine habit is roaring out of control (he averages 7 sniffles a minute) and his conduct is genuinely beyond the pale. He tried to charge me 80k pesos for a beer, a coke, and a water for the chica. When I corrected him on it he attempted to “lower” the price to $50. Oh, and NEVER give him your phone number, if you do he will call no less than six bazillion times in 90 minutes.

The scene revolves around the beach girls during the day that go from about 120k to 150k for a shot and the disco girls at night. There is an overlap with the girls between the two scenes but not all beach girls work the discos and vice versa. My biggest surprise was that I often saw the hottest girls serving three different men during the course of a few hours at night. Contrary to my expectations, the girls were mostly interesting in hooking a john, doing the deed for 15-35 minutes, and getting out the door to collect the next one. There is also a new bar called Easy which is run by an American which has a business model which I can’t quite comprehend: It’s a gilry bar with girls that are generally less prettier than the LDV girls but the price is a about 100k pesos more; pay more and get less ***The bar is owned by an American who also owns the strip club in town. Frankly I am surprised that this fellow hasn’t been put out of business yet since the American govt does not look kindly upon Yanks abroad involved in the flesh trade.***

The talent level and service at LDV has certainly declined although there are still some 7’s about an occasional eight to be seen. The price is usually 150k per pop and ~250k for all night, which normally means that after one pop the girl will start to whine, talk on her phone, at which time an argument will ensue which will result in you paying 200k for one pop and an argument. That being said, the uglier the girl is the more likely she will negotiate on her price and keep her word on the length of time that she agreed to stay. After the LDV closes the girl end up in Elektra, a late night disco, where the price may go down a bit, but it’s still one shot and out the door.

***More on this in a different post, but if you are willing to fund party favors for the girls the sex will be much better and they will stay longer; however, I’m generally a very risk averse person and not comfortable with illegal drugs in foreign lands being in my proximity***

CTG is a hot and dirty shithole that’s no longer a great value—food is relatively expensive too. The hookers there are all from other cities and charge too much for what they deliver. The indigenous women of CTG are normally of the shortish, fatish, and darkish variety which don’t do a whole lot for me. I tried the marriage agency thing and was surprised at the number of men that marry women who they don’t share a common tongue with: “What do you mean sir? We only have a few girls that speak a little bit of English…but most of our guys don’t speak Spanish and they still have a successful relationship. “ No wonder why so many of these mail order bride deals end in disaster. One thing which amused me was the career rounding up that occurred: a dental hygienist is advertised as a dentist, a notary public as a lawyer, and the unemployed and hookers as students. It doesn’t really matter, but it further buttresses my observations that the average Americans who goes to a marriage agency has no idea in hell what who he is getting involved with.

I won’t be returning to CTG anytime soon, BOG and MDE are much better places with prettier gals at cheaper prices.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can]Well, I agree with some of what you are saying, but the part about hard girls in LDV could not be further from the truth as far as my time there. First off I treat the girls nice, next I have always gotten gfe and none of them tried to leave before the next morning hell some of them were still sleeping in my apartment at 5 pm when I came back from the beach. I have never woke a girl up and asked her to leave. I get up early and usually wake them up and have a quickie and they fall back to sleep. I dont like Medellin, I have never heard or seen a place like LDV in Medellin where I can go in have some drinks and leisurely take a girl out, no charge , no bullshit. Just get up with my date for the night and leave. Thats how I like it. Is there a place in Medellin like that to your knowledge?
And yea Tony will try to rip off anyone he thinks he can, but I like him. Hes just a fucking nut.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Of course one's mileage may vary. I found that frequent visitors with Spainish ability tend to report more initimate experiences. I have also found that if one pays a chick more she will stay longer or if she is not among the hotttest chicks in the area she will stay longer. But for newbies I think it's a bit different.
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Originally Posted by You Can:

This was a good report. Only thing I disagree with is the comment about bbbj not common. I have been there many times, and have maybe had one girl in many try to use a condom for bj and once I told her nicely to be on her way, she went for it. Other then that I enjoyed your report. If you treat the girls nice it goes a long way.

Originally Posted by You Can:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uzinuzin
Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.


Now the prices. At LDV they start with 400k or 300k, quickly down to 200k. If you haggle they do you for 150k at night, but that would be a rush job - 30min max, very mechanical but they do all the standard stuff (BBBJ is not very common, one refused it no matter what I said - I am very good at negotiating and persuading, but not this one ... !?)
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It's a business--normally quite pleasant-transaction with these girls. They are there to make money for themselves and their families for the few weeks they opt to hook each year. It's logical that most would choose to make 450K in one night from multiple clients as opposed to 150k in one night from one client. But I can certainly understand if they drop their guard a bit with someone they feel confortable with.

You are right: MDE lacks a free lance bar akin to LDV, Tequila Rocks, or Havanas in Panama. The p4p there is of a different variety-strip clubs, casas, and to a lesser extent escorts.

I agree with Youcan, I think. Everyone is quoting everyone so I can't keep track. I went to CTG a little over a year ago. I did not visit LDV, because at that time I did not know about this forum. I did however go to Tu Candela. I can say that girls there at that club were not hard at all. Although I was there maybe about 2 hours I was able to pull 2 7's for 150k. I posted my story in MDE section by accident but I will re post here as well. Now the thing is I speak fluent spanish but born in the US. My parents are from Mexico, and having been to Tijuana a bunch of times my haggling is not bad. My age is early 30's, and in fairly good shape. The main thing I think is that you can't appear to be looking very hard or borderline desperate. These girls will see that in you and set a price bar very high. I came across these girls casually as I was getting a round of beers for a group of friends that I met on the Chiva party bus. So I think I appeared not looking as obviously I was with a group of guys and girls. So as these 2 chicas approached me I declined to pay the first 2 prices and started to walk away it wasn't until the 3rd price was thrown out there that I snatched it up and took advantage of it.

[QUOTE=DirkDingy]Hi,

Of course one's mileage may vary. I found that frequent visitors with Spainish ability tend to report more initimate experiences. I have also found that if one pays a chick more she will stay longer or if she is not among the hotttest chicks in the area she will stay longer. But for newbies I think it's a bit different.
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Originally Posted by You Can:

This was a good report. Only thing I disagree with is the comment about bbbj not common. I have been there many times, and have maybe had one girl in many try to use a condom for bj and once I told her nicely to be on her way, she went for it. Other then that I enjoyed your report. If you treat the girls nice it goes a long way.

Originally Posted by You Can:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uzinuzin
Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.


Now the prices. At LDV they start with 400k or 300k, quickly down to 200k. If you haggle they do you for 150k at night, but that would be a rush job - 30min max, very mechanical but they do all the standard stuff (BBBJ is not very common, one refused it no matter what I said - I am very good at negotiating and persuading, but not this one ... !?)
______________________________________________

It's a business--normally quite pleasant-transaction with these girls. They are there to make money for themselves and their families for the few weeks they opt to hook each year. It's logical that most would choose to make 450K in one night from multiple clients as opposed to 150k in one night from one client. But I can certainly understand if they drop their guard a bit with someone they feel confortable with.

You are right: MDE lacks a free lance bar akin to LDV, Tequila Rocks, or Havanas in Panama. The p4p there is of a different variety-strip clubs, casas, and to a lesser extent escorts.[/QUOTE]

I was in Ctg at Tu Candela. I was at the bar asking for a round of Heinikens beautiful chick comes up to me starts talking blah blah blah. You know all the normal questions they always ask. So I ask. So what are your plans tonight? Because here in the states that is sort of normal conversation at a bar or nightclub. Right? She replies well. I am working. Very discretely. Which was cool with me I didn't feel the need to put her business out there. Besides she was I would say solid 7, great body not a model face but very cute barrio type I guess and just very affectionate. That was my Q. So I said about how much would this costs me? She says for you looks me up and down like she is buying a used car and says 80k. I said hmmm you know what I am really looking for is a threesome. I think I may pass. Started to grab the beers and head back. I noticed she was with another girl there and started to make signs and calling over the other girl. I was cool at the bar just waiting I honestly was not expecting to take them both back. All of a sudden the other beautiful chica comes up and she says What do you think about the 2 of us? Is this what you are looking for. I could not help but smile a little bit. I have a great poker face but come on there is only so much a guy can take. So I said look the thing is I only have 150 k. Can you guys split that. Now at this point I had agreed for 2 hours since there was no way they would stay for the entire night at that price I figured maybe still early enough I can head back out and pick me up another one for 60-70k for the rest of the night. Or I figured I could always ask one to stay the remainder of the night and pay the taxi for the other one. They said yes I paid the bar tab got the hell back to the apt. Now being from California Tequila is my drink of chice and then also Johnny Walker so I brought to CTG 4 bottles 3 tequila and 1 johnny. I did this because it is so much cheaper in the states than CTG. Besides that, good Tequila is not found in CTG. That automatically got the part y started I started to tell them about some of my favorite drinks blah blah blah. I made them drinks and took shots, I watered theirs down since they are not used to it it was a fun party atmosphere. Then once we are all liquored up we start to kiss each other they kiss I take turns. The rest is history as they say amigos. Best time of my life long story short. In the morning they got me up in both ways. Made breakfast! Since I had gone to the grocery store when I arrived and bought all the food I needed for through out the day and only spent money on food at night. And left around 10-11am or so.

Moral of the story is you have to learn spanish and not be lazy, otherwise you will be seen as an Atm, Gringo fool or a sucker. Believe me these girls are after 2 things money and a visa. Now looking for a wife is another thing and I myself plan on one day marrying a Colombian, but that requires a lot more research and believe me you will not find her a Tu candela or LDV or the beach. I for one would not go to Germany or Europe and not learn the language first! Waste of time. Guys learn the language, spanish is one of the wasiest languages to speak!

[QUOTE=DirkDingy]Hi,

Of course one's mileage may vary. I found that frequent visitors with Spainish ability tend to report more initimate experiences. I have also found that if one pays a chick more she will stay longer or if she is not among the hotttest chicks in the area she will stay longer. But for newbies I think it's a bit different.

________________________________________________________________

Originally Posted by You Can:

This was a good report. Only thing I disagree with is the comment about BBBJ not common. I have been there many times, and have maybe had one girl in many try to use a condom for BJ and once I told her nicely to be on her way, she went for it. Other then that I enjoyed your report. If you treat the girls nice it goes a long way.

Originally Posted by You Can:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uzinuzin

Here is a summary of my general impression of our favourite activity in CTG. Bear in mind that this was my first trip to Colombia, so bear that in mind when reading.

Now the prices. At LDV they start with 400k or 300k, quickly down to 200k. If you haggle they do you for 150k at night, but that would be a rush job. 30min max, very mechanical but they do all the standard stuff (BBBJ is not very common, one refused it no matter what I said. I am very good at negotiating and persuading, but not this one.!)

______________________________________________

It's a business-normally quite pleasant-transaction with these girls. They are there to make money for themselves and their families for the few weeks they opt to hook each year. It's logical that most would choose to make 450K in one night from multiple clients as opposed to 150k in one night from one client. But I can certainly understand if they drop their guard a bit with someone they feel confortable with.

You are right: MDE lacks a free lance bar akin to LDV, Tequila Rocks, or Havanas in Panama. The p4p there is of a different variety-strip clubs, casas, and to a lesser extent escorts.[/QUOTE]

One reads a lot on ISG about guys paying too much and letting the little head do all the thinking so here is one story where 'I took one for the team'.

I have been traveling in Colombia for a few weeks and as I began my trip in CTG, I will be here for the remainder of my trip.

At the beginning of my trip, I met a super hot black chica from Barranquilla near Donde Fidel and called her a few days ago upon my return. Her name is Jacqueline and she told me she is living in a hotel somewhere in CTG though have no idea where that hotel might be located.

We ended up at Tu Candela where we had the normal round of drinks and dancing where I tried to establish some GFE but eventually she told me that she was 'working' -- no surprise on that comment. She wanted $200COP for an hour and I countered with $150 TLN (it was 3am) but she would not budge. So I said goodbye and left. There still seemed to be a few single guys in there so maybe she thought that she could still get her price.

I texted her the next night and asked about her price to come to my hotel for two hours. Her price for this visit was $250COP plus she wanted me to pay for her taxi by leaving $$ at the reception desk. She said she likes to kiss but we did not discuss other details of her services. I finally decided to blow it off by texting her that I was cancelling. When you add up the total cost with the USD conversion rate, it would end up around $150USD. We did not discuss this but she probably wanted me to pay her taxi afterwards as well (even though she would probably stick around El Centro anyway).

So, is that the price one can expect these days in CTG or the exception? The girl is a at least an '8' or a '9'.

PS: On my earlier visit to CTG, I paid a Cali girl from ELEKTRA $150COP for TLN and though she was not in this chica's look category, I had a very good time with the Elektra girl.

PS2: Also, I went over to Playa Blanca yesterday and checked out the 'lodging situtation'. Mainly hammocks and tents available but there is a guy named Hugo who has some very rustic cabins, tents, and hammocks for rent. I asked him if there were any girls around and he asked what I wanted. When his buddy mentioned he had access to blonds, I said yes, get me a blond. So the guy says he can get me a blond but I have to pay $150COP for her autobus from MDE. This guy was serious. I said half the chicas in CTG are from MDE, get me one of those instead. lol!

[QUOTE=Tomasb]

... At the beginning of my trip, I met a super hot black chica from Barranquilla ...

... I texted her the next night and asked about her price to come to my hotel for two hours. Her price for this visit was $250COP plus she wanted me to pay for her taxi by leaving $$ at the reception desk. She said she likes to kiss but we did not discuss other details of her services.

... I finally decided to blow it off by texting her that I was cancelling. So, is that the price one can expect these days in CTG or the exception? ...

[/QUOTE]

Good thinking amigo, I would've dumped her too.

When chicas start charging like that and making demands and not discussing their services, etc, they usually end up being pretty crappy company anyway.

There are plenty of chicas that you can bond with and pay normal rates, and have a great time.

Good rule to follow ... bad vibe, let her go, follow your instincts.

This is kind of a specialized report. I live near St Maarten in the Caribbean so most of my experience is in the clubs there,with colombianas. I have been to Colombia 10 times and this is my third visit to Cartagena, but my first visit to LDV. I was staying at the Hotel Dann, across the street.

Hit the bar about 130am because I took a nap and overslept. Girls clear out about 230pm. Music is a mix, loud but not too loud. There were lots of girls and only a few guys (mid week, late). The girls are better looking on average than the girls that come to St Maarten. Prices in St Maarten are standard, $50 for half an hour, perhaps $40.

First I walked around and got a beer. Then I talked to a tall black girl, very attractive, from Medellin (lots of the girls were frrom Medellin). She was dressed discretely, in retrospect I should have just stuck with her, since it was getting near to closing time. But I spotted a familiiar blonde a few tables away and went over to say hello. I had sessioned with her once a year ago in St Maarten, nothing super memorable for me, but she remembered my massage and gift of a music CD. Then I talked to a couple of other hot young girls.

Then a slim tall black girl, somewhat hardlooking, motioned me over. I bought drinks for her and her 2 friends, all from Cartagena. 10k per drink.
We danced a bit and talked, they wanted me to take them to Eledktra. I spent about 15 minutes with them, talking, dancing, seeing what a kiss would be like. The first girl was the best dancer and most sexy, but the short, lighter, girl next store girl gave me a nice full kiss right n the bar. So as people started to clear out, I said I wasnt interetwed in Electra and headed outside
where I talked to 3 girls from Cali and one from ?

Eventually my girls came out, one at a time, the girl next door took my arm and gave me another kiss. She said what are we going to do, I said lets go across the street to my hotel. No discussion of price.

Hotel took her cedula while she was in my suite, charged me 45k pesos for a visitor. We had a good 2 hours, including bbbj lots of talk, great french kissing, not so great CFS. I gave her 150k and got her numbers, gave her 10k for taxi, and she left.

Next day the hotel charged me 90k for a small bottle of whiskey which i did not drink. She either slipped it in her purse (all other valuables where in the safe) or the hotel made a mistake. She denied it when she phoned me.

Then I took a minibuss to Baq.

LDV was interesting. The drinks in St Maarten only cost $2 and the price o9f the girl is about the same, although TLN can probably be had cheaper at LDV since there is no bar fine. In St Maarten you normally session in the girls room, so the only things you worry about losing are those in your pants, and that is VERY rare, since the girls are in a foreign country and vulnerable.

Hope that helps

-zing

Thanks for the report and comparison Zing!

I dig St Maarten too.
Don't know if it's still around, but I used to stay at the little motel that was attached to the club Kappers, I believe was it's name.

Anyway I like LDV for the availability to meet chicas and if you can meet and click with one, get pretty good deal on LT GFE without paying ridiculous bar fines.

BTWay, think I had the best lay of my life in Campo Alegre in Curacao. The famous Michelle from Cali.
She was a 10 in looks, personality, skill and performance.

Good times amigos ....

If anyone is coming to Cartagena, and would like make some money bringing me down a laptop please contact Juan Ventura. I want a laptop from Best Buy in the United States or Canada. I will pay for it in US dollars the moment you arrive plus a fee for the help.

Team,

I have a chance to go to Cartagena over new years but I am unsure.

I know it is not the best time and maybe even sucks compared to most other times of year but this is the only time I can go so,.

What should I expect? I know everything will be more $ but will the scene be lively at least? My dates are dec 26 until Jan 2.

Also my Spanish is weak. Will Portuguese be better or english?

I will learn some more spanish but just curious.

Great info on the forum thanks for the details I have learned a lot.

[QUOTE=InBrazilSoon]Team,

I have a chance to go to Cartagena over new years but I am unsure.

I know it is not the best time and maybe even sucks compared to most other times of year but this is the only time I can go so,.

What should I expect? I know everything will be more $ but will the scene be lively at least? My dates are dec 26 until Jan 2.

Also my Spanish is weak. Will Portuguese be better or english?

I will learn some more spanish but just curious.

Great info on the forum thanks for the details I have learned a lot.[/QUOTE]

Most likely a bit slow at that time of year.
Lots of the visiting working chicas go to be with family at that time.

Portuguese is like a sexy sounding spanish.
The chicas will understand a bit if you speak slowly, and you'll understand quite a bit of their spanish.
Tell the chicas you're from Brazil .. they dig it.

I speak both languages, for me spanish is much easier, easier pronounciation.

Have fun!!

[QUOTE=Ricker]Most likely a bit slow at that time of year.
Lots of the visiting working chicas go to be with family at that time.....

[/QUOTE]

Never been there during Christmas or New Year's, but would think what Ricker says above is spot on.

Would be interested as well in hearing from someone who has actually been in Cartagena during Christmas week. Does LDV stay open through the 23rd or 24th? How about the 26th? Do some Cartagenaras still mingle in Playa Hollywood working on the days leading up to the 25th? Ever slip away to the apartamento with a chica from the beach who is there during Christmas week with her family? Or will a guy have to have Tony start calling local chicas from his cell phone contact list?

May be only slim pickings, but I'm guessing there are some opportunities at Playa Hollywood or through Tony, and if LDV is still open. I'm curious to know from anyone who has been there from say Dec. 21 through the end of the year.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper]May be only slim pickings, but I'm guessing there are some opportunities at Playa Hollywood or through Tony, and if LDV is still open. I'm curious to know from anyone who has been there from say Dec. 21 through the end of the year.[/QUOTE]In 2008, I flew out of CTG on dawn flight morning of 24th. Previous night in LDV was dead: one Cali chica trying to make transportation fare home, two every night regulars, and very scant flotsam room filler. The entire week before, LDV had been becoming more and more empty with each passing night. Plus side was minimal competition. Have been wondering when the girls start perculating back into the place after Christmas. For New Years, Juan Ventura's places a are pretty booked -- and at higher rates -- for anyone contemplating being there for Eve 2011.

I spent Christmas one year in Cali.
Was fantastic the week leading to Christmas.
Was OK after Christmas, heading to New Years Celebration.
Great private parties on New Years eve.
From the new years day for about a week ... dead.

Golfinho and Ricker, thanks for the feedback---much appreciated. Kinda what I figured, but it's always best to get the input from guys who've actually been there during that timeframe.

I did a search of this thread on the word "Christmas" and did find one report from Reefski. Looks like he did find a little action on the beach during Christmas week. Maybe Reefski is still around and will expand on his report from Dec. 2008.

Reef, you out there?

Yoah All, I'll be helping out the poor Colombian women and the economy in CTG this weekend. I'll be stayting at one of Jaun Place by LDV.

I'm hosting a couple of guys. I was at Tu Candela last time in Cartagena and found it interesting the Non pro and pro mix.

I wanted to show them a couple places with a non pro mix before we hit La Dolce Vida. Any suggestions?

Thanks hilltop, ricker, golf!

We will C. I understand the theory that many go home for the holidays but I am thinking that this is one of the busiest tourist seasons for them, so I can't imagine them missing the opportunity for a good ratio which means good business for them. I am hoping at the very least 29, 30, 31 December the whole city must be in party mode.

But we will see how business focused they are.

I have been in Cartagena nearly every year for New Years and some for Christmas over the last 8 years. Many chicas from casas in Medellin and Cali are recruited by agencies to work in Cartagena in December, most leaving with our dinero the week before Christmas. Funny how a 30,000 peso casa chica is working at a high end casa (200-350,000 for the night in Cartagena) during that time. They also get bored waiting for action and are looking for daytime tricks on the beach.

There are always the Cartagena girls available on the playa, yeah Hollywood too. Action is slow for a few days after Christmas but picks up around the 28th of 29th. New Years in Cartagena is the busiest time of the year, also the most expensive. Apartments and hotels are 1 1/2 to 3x what they usually charge, biggest days are Dec 29 to January 16 this year. For New Years get a chica that is fun and try Santa Domingo Plaza, you will need a reservation at one of the restaurants there, about $100 per person. Area is partitioned off with the loudest band available, but a great time to be there. Tables for dinner in all the streets close to the Plazas.

La Dolce picks up during New Years but you really need to have one tied up imho. Unless tings changed in the last 2 weeks La Perla Casino has been closed down and La Dolce stands alone. This time of year the weather si great historically but this year the rains keep coming. I am told it has rained most days including today recently.

There will always be quality chicas there if you look. Mant drunk teens fr4on other areas of Colombia but they are not so notibabe at some of the "closed" parties for New Years in nthe old city.

[QUOTE=Hj Mac]Yoah All, I'll be helping out the poor Colombian women and the economy in CTG this weekend. I'll be stayting at one of Jaun Place by LDV.

I'm hosting a couple of guys. I was at Tu Candela last time in Cartagena and found it interesting the Non pro and pro mix.

I wanted to show them a couple places with a non pro mix before we hit La Dolce Vida. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]


Here's a copy-n-paste from World Traveler's list on the Cartagena List thread (may need updated a little). Go check out his list on that thread, I think it is on the 2nd or 3rd to newest page of that thread (thanks again to World Traveler for his lists). I'd think Babar, Tu Candela and those along Calle del Arsenal probably deserve a "look-see":


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Bars and Discos Non Pro Only.

Bocagrande

1. La Luz Disco Club, Carrera 1 # 6-154, 1st. Piso, Hotel Cartagena Plaza. __ Chicas. Prices: ____. Tel: (57 5) 665 4000, 665 4104, 665 4300. Hours: 8pm to __.

2. Hotel El Dorado, (Disco), Av. San Martin #4-41, Bocagrande. Hours: ___.

3. Bar Bareke, Calle 8 #2-24. __ Chicas. Prices: ____. Tel: 57-5-655 1956. Hours: ___.


El Centro

1. Joy Slava Club, Playa de La Artilleria # 36-86, across from the Wall, near Calle Baloco. Prices: ____. Tel: 660-2164. Hours: Friday to Sunday. 9pm to 4am.

2. Babar, Calle San Juan de Dios and Calle Antonio Ricaurte. Prices: Cover 10k, Beer 8k. Tel: 57-5-664-4083. Hours: 8pm to 4am.


Getsemani Non Pro Only.

1. "Quiebra Canto Bar", Salsa, Cafe Galleria, Carrera 8B # 25-110, Piso 2, L-201, Edificio Puerta Del Sol, overlooking the Parque del Centenario. Prices: ____. Tel: 664-1372. Hours: 8pm to 4am.
[url]www.quiebracanto.com[/url]

2. Mister Babilla (disco), Calle 24 # 8B-137, near Calle del Arsenal. Prices: Cover 10k on weekends, Drinks around 14k, Chicas ___. Tel: +57 5 664 8616, +57 5 664 7005. Hours: 11pm to 5am.

3. Qk-Yito Lounge (disco), Calle del Arsenal #10-13 (Calle de Rumba). Prices: ____. Tel: ___. Hours: 8pm to 4am.

4. Baluma, Calle de Arsenal # 10-39. Tel: 664-0607. Hours: __.

5. La Cabonera, Calle 24 # 9a-47, and Calle del Arsenal. Prices: ____. Tel: 664-3720. Hours: ___.

6. Maracaná, Calle del Arsenal. Prices: ____. Hours: __.

7. Café Restuarante Havana, Calle Media Luna con Calle del Guerrero. Tel: 57 315 6902566. [email]info@cafehavanacartagena.com[/email] [url]http://www.cafehavanacartagena.com/[/url]


La Manga

1. Ritmo Minitk, Carrera 21A # 5-96 Cj Ferrer. Prices: ____. Tel.: 660 4221. Hours: ___.


Chambacu Not a Safe Area!

1. Karamba Bar-Disco, Avenida Pedro de Heredia # 62-30. Prices: ____. Tel: (57 5) 663 1532 or 651-3912. Hours: ___.

2. Salsoteca Siguaraya, Avenida Pedro de Heredia # 65A 47, In front of the Villa Sandra. Prices: ____. Tel: 663 1800. Hours: ___.


La Castellana

1. Extreme Bar-Discoteca Restaurante, El Rubi, Calle 31 # 64-100 Piso 2 Level 248, C.C. Paseo de La Castellana. Prices: ____. Tel: (57 5) 653 2781 - 653 2651, Tel/Fax: 660 0011. Hours: ___.


San Pedro

1. Bururum-Barara Cafe-Bar, San Pedro Manz 1 Lt 16. Prices: ____. Tel: (57 5) 663 1518. Hours: ___.

Hi. I want to thank you all for your info. It made planning very easy. A little background, this is my 1st time to Colombia, I have been to brazil(2x), Peru and Costa Rica and Mexico City. So I think I can speak from a little experience.

I used Juan for an apt., I recommend him highly, he delivered as promised, was available whenever a problem arose, the apt. Was excellent, oceanfront, wall of windows with a bueatiful sunset every nite. Flat screen tv in living room. I am probalbly going back in feb. And hope to get the same place. All the girls loved it when they saw it.

LDV, I loved this place. Obviously for those who have been to brazil, this cannot compare to help in size, but I personally, IMHO, found the percentage of quality women, signifigantly better. And it had a great energy/vibe. Much better than T. R. In Lima, again, IMHO.

The beach scene, was like a mini version of copacabana, the beach quality is not as nice or big. But had a similiar energy, everything was available. Food, drink, and girls. Tony #1 is as described. Very helpful and an a**hole. He truly could deliver on anything you wanted. Blanca and flaca, no problem. He was on his phone and 15 minutes later she arrived, and he didnot dissappoint he had great quality. And if it didn't suit you, he would get another. Personally I preferred the afternoon session with the beach girls to LDV night sessions, if you had a good connection. It just seemed more relaxed, not as hardcore. Plus, the beach girls were younger on average.

I always find that I go all out the first few days as far as the sex goes, then I become more interested in the overall party scene, with some sex mixed in. Met some really fun girls, and a few americans, hooked up with a really crazy chica that I had a great connection with and spent the last 3 days/nights together. Lots of fun, took my out to centro for drinks/ dinner one night and to tu candela(sp?) another, great time. Was helpful for translating etc. For this it is important to get a girl who can speak some english as my spanish is poco. No matter how great the physical connection if they don't speak any english it is had to be with them other than short time.

Well, to sum it up it was great, much cheaper than brazil currently, and I'm already planning a return trip in feb., thanks again for all your help, Doc.

This is probably my final report on CTG though hopefully not Colombia. I left CTG last Tuesday morning and was frankly fairly bored with the city by that time. For my last night, I thought that it would be a good idea to check out LDV. I had been there on a prior trip in August and did not have a great experience with a blond cheerleader type from MDE who also spoke quite good English as she had just completed an English class in MDE. However, the girls at LDV overall are quite stunning.

As I noted in prior reports on Elektra, there appears to be some sort of unofficial union with the girls based on the consistent price levels and lack of flexibility thereof. I did have a great time with a black girl from Cali I met in Elektra who actually asked me what I wanted to pay for TLN. I offered $150K, she accepted and was up for anything and as many times as I could get Mr. Happy to perform.

When I went to LDV there were quite a few outstanding looking girls along with the regular motley crew I had seen in Elektra. The first girl I chatted with from Manizales was a cute blond but she tried to pawn off her gordita friend from Barranquilla on me. No dice. The cute blond had another customer so that was a no go. The gordita probably would have provided the best service but was too chubby for my liking. No price discussed so I moved on to an attractive quite pretty dark haired girl from MDE. Non-pro look which I like. Once again as in similar experiences in Elektra, she wanted $250k for 2 hours and would not budge on the price. She said that this price was inexpensive though easy for her to say. Maybe she should sell used cars some day.

After that, I spoke to another dark haired girl from MDE with that interesting skin color some girls from MDE have. She claimed to be a university student from MDE and said she was only in CTG for several days. Her family and friends think she is on vacation. Once again, she wanted $250k for two hours. After an awkward silence as I waited for her to bring her price down, she instead did an about face and headed back into the disco. I kind of regret throwing that one back into the pond as she was pretty hot but don't want to pay that kind of $$. I guess that I was spoiled by the Cali girl.

Shortly thereafter, another MDE chica came over. She wanted $250k but quickly moved to $200 for two hours. I was a bit superstitious of her aggressive approach, which proved to be a cautionary tale once again. After getting in the taxi, she first wanted to stop at a drug store for aspirin. She paid for it but it was kind of annoying way to start our 'relationship'. Then she wanted an arepa, which I paid for and finally we headed back to my room at El Centro having to pay the taxi guy extra for all the additional driving. Once in the room, she insisted I take a shower and I thought she would join me. Instead she stood there watching me (she was naked too) but would not get in the shower with me but instead kept looking at Mr. (Not) so Happy and insisted that I use the soap freely. Frankly, I felt like I was with my mom. We finally got down to business where she reluctantly accepted DATY and then wanted it doggie style. To make a long story short she was an absolute suck lay. Finally, to add insult to injury she limited me too only one time. Given the first experience, I did not protest too much. Sorry guys, but as I told her, I forgot to ask how many times for the two hours. Classic mistake.

After that, she hung around for a while giving me lame GFE. Is anything worse? And then she started to bring up taxi money. Taxi money I said? I told her that I never said that I would pay you for taxi money and I guess you forgot to ask if that was included (lol). With that I gave her the $200k and the boot.

In retrospect, its more or less just luck sometimes if you have a good time with the girl. I expected the Cali chick too be only so-so, yet she turned out to be the best one from my trip. To paraphrase Forrest, mongering is like a box of chocolates. Maybe I should go direct to Cali for my next trip though concerned about the reputed heat/climate? Any opinions out there about all that...

Yes, I found I was unable to signifigantly get the girls off of their asking prices, if that was the case it is better to just walk away. I paid at nite, in ldv, anywhere from 200 to 250k, usually closer to 250, this was for 2hours, which you had to specify ahead of time, or they would try to leave earlier. The last one did stay all night and tru the day. The beach girls I would pay 150k and insist on 2 hours. No problem. And again, they tended to be less mechanical, more GFE, more relaxed. I actually prefered to play in the late afternoon, then go party at nite.

This was a great report, but I cant help adding my 2cents. I have only had 1 or 2 bad experiences with Cartagena, which is nothing compared to all the women I have had there. I just cant get into all that negotiating, it ruins the mood and I believe for the girl to. I buy the bottles of liquor freely, ask the girl if she wants to go get something to eat and just ease into everything. It kinda of comes natural. I have never paid more then 200,000 and thats for all night. I never even wake then up in the morning, I leave them there sleeping. Usually they will join me on the beach. If I had to talk about all that how many pops, how much, when you leaving, that would kill it for me and I am sure it does for some of the girls you are talking to.


[QUOTE=Tomasb]This is probably my final report on CTG though hopefully not Colombia. I left CTG last Tuesday morning and was frankly fairly bored with the city by that time. For my last night, I thought that it would be a good idea to check out LDV. I had been there on a prior trip in August and did not have a great experience with a blond cheerleader type from MDE who also spoke quite good English as she had just completed an English class in MDE. However, the girls at LDV overall are quite stunning.

As I noted in prior reports on Elektra, there appears to be some sort of unofficial union with the girls based on the consistent price levels and lack of flexibility thereof. I did have a great time with a black girl from Cali I met in Elektra who actually asked me what I wanted to pay for TLN. I offered $150K, she accepted and was up for anything and as many times as I could get Mr. Happy to perform.

When I went to LDV there were quite a few outstanding looking girls along with the regular motley crew I had seen in Elektra. The first girl I chatted with from Manizales was a cute blond but she tried to pawn off her gordita friend from Barranquilla on me. No dice. The cute blond had another customer so that was a no go. The gordita probably would have provided the best service but was too chubby for my liking. No price discussed so I moved on to an attractive quite pretty dark haired girl from MDE. Non-pro look which I like. Once again as in similar experiences in Elektra, she wanted $250k for 2 hours and would not budge on the price. She said that this price was inexpensive though easy for her to say. Maybe she should sell used cars some day.

After that, I spoke to another dark haired girl from MDE with that interesting skin color some girls from MDE have. She claimed to be a university student from MDE and said she was only in CTG for several days. Her family and friends think she is on vacation. Once again, she wanted $250k for two hours. After an awkward silence as I waited for her to bring her price down, she instead did an about face and headed back into the disco. I kind of regret throwing that one back into the pond as she was pretty hot but don't want to pay that kind of $$. I guess that I was spoiled by the Cali girl.

Shortly thereafter, another MDE chica came over. She wanted $250k but quickly moved to $200 for two hours. I was a bit superstitious of her aggressive approach, which proved to be a cautionary tale once again. After getting in the taxi, she first wanted to stop at a drug store for aspirin. She paid for it but it was kind of annoying way to start our 'relationship'. Then she wanted an arepa, which I paid for and finally we headed back to my room at El Centro having to pay the taxi guy extra for all the additional driving. Once in the room, she insisted I take a shower and I thought she would join me. Instead she stood there watching me (she was naked too) but would not get in the shower with me but instead kept looking at Mr. (Not) so Happy and insisted that I use the soap freely. Frankly, I felt like I was with my mom. We finally got down to business where she reluctantly accepted DATY and then wanted it doggie style. To make a long story short she was an absolute suck lay. Finally, to add insult to injury she limited me too only one time. Given the first experience, I did not protest too much. Sorry guys, but as I told her, I forgot to ask how many times for the two hours. Classic mistake.

After that, she hung around for a while giving me lame GFE. Is anything worse? And then she started to bring up taxi money. Taxi money I said? I told her that I never said that I would pay you for taxi money and I guess you forgot to ask if that was included (lol). With that I gave her the $200k and the boot.

In retrospect, its more or less just luck sometimes if you have a good time with the girl. I expected the Cali chick too be only so-so, yet she turned out to be the best one from my trip. To paraphrase Forrest, mongering is like a box of chocolates. Maybe I should go direct to Cali for my next trip though concerned about the reputed heat/climate? Any opinions out there about all that...[/QUOTE]

Juan ran out of 1 BR apartments. I found an apartment for rent on hotels.com called Sunny Isles located in Bocagrande Cr K 2 04-132. I found nothing here with the search engine and wondered if anyone here know if it's guest friendly or not. From the map it looks reasonably close to LDV.

Thanks.

Here's something I posted in the past about LDV. Suits your situation so I'll copy and paste it here.

Being pitched 500k is easily avoidable. Simply don't ask how much they want. It's an invitation that you may not know the usual prices, and they should try and gouge you.

Instead, tell them what you want to pay.

Establish a rapport with the girl first (drinks, dancing, chat). Then give her an offer about what you want to do: "I would like you to come with me to my apartment in Laguito. I have some drinks back at my place (rum, vodka.) or you can smoke a joint. I want you to stay about an hour and a half. I am offering 150k pesos and will also pay your taxi after you leave my place. I'm a calm and relaxed person and will make sure you're comfortable with me".

Something like the above (alter it to suit your circumstances). I sometimes pull them out of LDV a bit earlier, then offer to escort them to the door of Elektra after we're done. Make the offer attractive to the girl and she will more likely say yes.

Now if the guy happens to be an unattractive person, maybe that explains getting way higher quotes. Girls won't say no outright, they'll just quote a high rate. If you suspect this, find someone who understands colombianas and ask them if you're giving off bad vibes.

[QUOTE=Tomasb]As I noted in prior reports on Elektra, there appears to be some sort of unofficial union with the girls based on the consistent price levels and lack of flexibility thereof. I did have a great time with a black girl from Cali I met in Elektra who actually asked me what I wanted to pay for TLN. I offered $150K, she accepted and was up for anything and as many times as I could get Mr. Happy to perform.

When I went to LDV there were quite a few outstanding looking girls along with the regular motley crew I had seen in Elektra. The first girl I chatted with from Manizales was a cute blond but she tried to pawn off her gordita friend from Barranquilla on me. No dice. The cute blond had another customer so that was a no go. The gordita probably would have provided the best service but was too chubby for my liking. No price discussed so I moved on to an attractive quite pretty dark haired girl from MDE. Non-pro look which I like. Once again as in similar experiences in Elektra, she wanted $250k for 2 hours and would not budge on the price. She said that this price was inexpensive though easy for her to say. Maybe she should sell used cars some day.

After that, I spoke to another dark haired girl from MDE with that interesting skin color some girls from MDE have. She claimed to be a university student from MDE and said she was only in CTG for several days. Her family and friends think she is on vacation. Once again, she wanted $250k for two hours. After an awkward silence as I waited for her to bring her price down, she instead did an about face and headed back into the disco. I kind of regret throwing that one back into the pond as she was pretty hot but don't want to pay that kind of $$. I guess that I was spoiled by the Cali girl.
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[QUOTE=Blago]Juan ran out of 1 BR apartments. I found an apartment for rent on hotels.com called Sunny Isles located in Bocagrande Cr K 2 04-132. I found nothing here with the search engine and wondered if anyone here know if it's guest friendly or not. From the map it looks reasonably close to LDV.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Blago, can't say that I've ever heard of Sunny Isles. Sounds like a retirement trailer park in FL.

Did you check with Mery Salence for an apt.? Did Juan have any 2 bdrms available (he'll rent to one person for a rate less than two people while locking the door to one of the bedrooms)? If you haven't explored those two options, I'd try those first (and qucikly) before packin' up and headin' to Sunny Isles.

Good advice, never rented from Mery but heard nothing but good things.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper]Blago, can't say that I've ever heard of Sunny Isles. Sounds like a retirement trailer park in FL.

Did you check with Mery Salence for an apt.? Did Juan have any 2 bdrms available (he'll rent to one person for a rate less than two people while locking the door to one of the bedrooms)? If you haven't explored those two options, I'd try those first (and qucikly) before packin' up and headin' to Sunny Isles.[/QUOTE]

The last part of what you said is a big issue in Colombia. I always hate to say it but if the girl doesnt want to be with a guy, she will definitely quote them a high price, which is a kick to the ego. If he does decide to pay it, it will probably not be a gfe session. I always try to pick a girl that shows interest in me and it has always worked. I tell my buddys this all the time. Dont just think you can go in there and pick the best looking girl and have a great time. You have to try to establish some kind of chemistry.
I have also seen girls tell guys flat out no. Which is a real kick in the balls for the guy, but in essence she did the guy a favor, because the session would have been bad. This is why I love Colombia and have had great times the girls are not so desparate that there just going to go with anyone, I like this and I like the mentality of Colombia women. I have always done well there and total GFE.
Your advice was dead on!


[QUOTE=Cachorro]Here's something I posted in the past about LDV. Suits your situation so I'll copy and paste it here.

Being pitched 500k is easily avoidable. Simply don't ask how much they want. It's an invitation that you may not know the usual prices, and they should try and gouge you.

Instead, tell them what you want to pay.

Establish a rapport with the girl first (drinks, dancing, chat). Then give her an offer about what you want to do: "I would like you to come with me to my apartment in Laguito. I have some drinks back at my place (rum, vodka.) or you can smoke a joint. I want you to stay about an hour and a half. I am offering 150k pesos and will also pay your taxi after you leave my place. I'm a calm and relaxed person and will make sure you're comfortable with me".

Something like the above (alter it to suit your circumstances). I sometimes pull them out of LDV a bit earlier, then offer to escort them to the door of Elektra after we're done. Make the offer attractive to the girl and she will more likely say yes.

Now if the guy happens to be an unattractive person, maybe that explains getting way higher quotes. Girls won't say no outright, they'll just quote a high rate. If you suspect this, find someone who understands colombianas and ask them if you're giving off bad vibes.[/QUOTE]

Can someone please give me contact information for Mery Salence? The search function came up empty.

Juan had a really nice 2BR left-but at a price higher than the Hilton.

Sunny Isles is a 8 story or so apartment building that looks fine, if guests are welcome.

I know I need to get moving on this, but have been distracted by health issue with elderly parents.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1100727]Blago, can't say that I've ever heard of Sunny Isles. Sounds like a retirement trailer park in FL.

Did you check with Mery Salence for an apt? Did Juan have any 2 bdrms available (he'll rent to one person for a rate less than two people while locking the door to one of the bedrooms)? If you haven't explored those two options, I'd try those first (and qucikly) before packin' up and headin' to Sunny Isles. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blago; 1100951]Can someone please give me contact information for Mery Salence? The search function came up empty.

Juan had a really nice 2BR left-but at a price higher than the Hilton.

Sunny Isles is a 8 story or so apartment building that looks fine, if guests are welcome.

I know I need to get moving on this, but have been distracted by health issue with elderly parents.

Thanks. [/QUOTE]Hmmmm, sounds like you ran into a "High Season" price, or maybe it was for both floors of the Mirador Penthouse. Nonetheless, check your private message system here at ISG for Mery's contact info.

Good luck,

Hilltopper

9. Cartagena's Finest Rentals. Mery, Tel: 011-57-5-655-0384.

[url]http://www.colombiarental.com/rentals/index.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Blago; 1100951]Can someone please give me contact information for Mery Salence? The search function came up empty.

Juan had a really nice 2BR left-but at a price higher than the Hilton.

Sunny Isles is a 8 story or so apartment building that looks fine, if guests are welcome.

I know I need to get moving on this, but have been distracted by health issue with elderly parents.

Thanks. [/QUOTE]

Not certain where you got the 500K amount from my report. The two girls I asked both wanted $250k for two hours and would not budge off that price and that appeared to be the going rate based on other conversations at ELEKTRA. However, I was a bit amused about another response from a punter who says he hates to ask about the number of pops, what they will do, etc. Etc. I have to agree that asking these questions can kill the mood so to speak. Unfortunately, if you don't ask, then you are putting yourself at risk for a low grade or low value experience as my report so amply demonstrated.

Like I mentioned about my Cali friend in a prior report, she just gave the vibe that anything goes and that turned out to be true. You really have to use some intuition to determine how the experience might be. With that girl, I really did not have to ask anything, I pretty much knew that I would have a good time. However, with a lot of these girls, they throw off the attitude that they are 'too cool for school'. It's a real crapshoot. Your damned if you ask and damned if you don't.

I should note that I am an older guy, which may explain part of my difficulty with the younger gals. Unlike Asia, not all the girls are into older guys but I don't think that had anything to do with the prices they were tossing out. It seems to be the norm at LDV.

[QUOTE=Cachorro; 1100655]Here's something I posted in the past about LDV. Suits your situation so I'll copy and paste it here.

Being pitched 500k is easily avoidable. Simply don't ask how much they want. It's an invitation that you may not know the usual prices, and they should try and gouge you.

Instead, tell them what you want to pay.

Establish a rapport with the girl first (drinks, dancing, chat). Then give her an offer about what you want to do: "I would like you to come with me to my apartment in Laguito. I have some drinks back at my place (rum, vodka.) or you can smoke a joint. I want you to stay about an hour and a half. I am offering 150k pesos and will also pay your taxi after you leave my place. I'm a calm and relaxed person and will make sure you're comfortable with me".

Something like the above (alter it to suit your circumstances). I sometimes pull them out of LDV a bit earlier, then offer to escort them to the door of Elektra after we're done. Make the offer attractive to the girl and she will more likely say yes.

Now if the guy happens to be an unattractive person, maybe that explains getting way higher quotes. Girls won't say no outright, they'll just quote a high rate. If you suspect this, find someone who understands colombianas and ask them if you're giving off bad vibes. [/QUOTE]

Hi all.

Mostly lurker here. Mongered Col since 2001. Been here 2 nights in Ctg. Went to LDV last 2 nights Dec. 8-9 2010.

These are prices quotes from girls in Ldv from 6 mongers, in COP pesos.

Monger 1. 400, 300, 300, 300k.

Monger 2. 300, 300, 250, 200k (1*). Accepted 200k offer with a 3 time repeat girl for TLN.

Monger 3 (me).300, 300, 200 (2*). Declined 200k offer for 1 hr.

Monger's 4-6. 300, 200, 100 (3*). Accepted 100k offer for 1+ hr at 5:30 in am.

(* Mongs 4-6 are 3 guys in their early 30's, blonde hair, blue eyes, good shape. Every Col girls fantasy.)

Summary: Majority of time Ldv girls will ask 300k+ to start, and won't go lower than 200 for any time frame.

You will have to negotiate every fking thing prior to leaving the bar,

Every angle, or they will try to use it as a angle for more pay.

It's like trying to do a business deal back home for the company or a car. Annoying. LOL.

Of course, I'm sure we will now hear from very experienced ctg'ers who will say they always get TLN from

LDV for 150, but for the rest of us these are real prices, right now.

I'm here for 4 more days and will check the beach action and centro / plaza domingo area.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Medellin Dreams; 1101523] (* Mongs 4-6 are 3 guys in their early 30's, blonde hair, blue eyes, good shape. Every Col girls fantasy.)

[/QUOTE]Ha haaaaa, says who? I know some "blue eyed, good shape, fantasy gringos" who couldn't charm the pants off a mayorista puta. The fact that they "thought" they were all that and could negotiate better TLN rates backfired and they left quite disappointed.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1101532]Ha haaaaa, says who? I know some "blue eyed, good shape, fantasy gringos" who couldn't charm the pants off a mayorista puta. The fact that they "thought" they were all that and could negotiate better TLN rates backfired and they left quite disappointed.[/QUOTE]Hmm. Says who. Says Me.

Your statement can be true, but now your talking about something else. (I. E. Charm, game and bargaining / social skills). These things as mongers we can change or improve on if want, whereas changing your.

"look" is somewhat more difficult.

My experience with latinas and talking with latinas is that this is what they would prefer / choose based on looks.

Where is it you find that based on looks, that the majority would choose dark hair, dark eyes over this. I'd like to check it out. LOL.

Note: The 3 guys in this report had no "attitude". Last night as they left the cafe, a table of teenage Colombian girls were breaking their necks checking them out as they were leaving, which prompted me to turn to the attractive 40 year old latina at my table that I had just been introduced to, and asked this question, in which she smiled and said yes

Great report as that collaborates my experiences, however, you have provided a greater statistical sample to back up my assessment. Also, I have to believe based on my two experiences with LDV chicas that you better make certain that you get everything you are expecting prior to returning to your hotel. It may damage the mood but odds are against you if you don't confirm your service expectations. I remember the one from a few weeks ago who wanted to be paid extra for more than one pop in our two hour previously agreed timeframe. She thought she could use up the rest of the time giving me a lousy massage.

[QUOTE=Cachorro; 1100655]Here's something I posted in the past about LDV. Suits your situation so I'll copy and paste it here.

Being pitched 500k is easily avoidable. Simply don't ask how much they want. It's an invitation that you may not know the usual prices, and they should try and gouge you.

Instead, tell them what you want to pay.

Establish a rapport with the girl first (drinks, dancing, chat). Then give her an offer about what you want to do: "I would like you to come with me to my apartment in Laguito. I have some drinks back at my place (rum, vodka.) or you can smoke a joint. I want you to stay about an hour and a half. I am offering 150k pesos and will also pay your taxi after you leave my place. I'm a calm and relaxed person and will make sure you're comfortable with me".

Something like the above (alter it to suit your circumstances). I sometimes pull them out of LDV a bit earlier, then offer to escort them to the door of Elektra after we're done. Make the offer attractive to the girl and she will more likely say yes.

Now if the guy happens to be an unattractive person, maybe that explains getting way higher quotes. Girls won't say no outright, they'll just quote a high rate. If you suspect this, find someone who understands colombianas and ask them if you're giving off bad vibes. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Medellin Dreams; 1101523]Hi all.

Mostly lurker here. Mongered Col since 2001. Been here 2 nights in Ctg. Went to LDV last 2 nights Dec. 8-9 2010.

These are prices quotes from girls in Ldv from 6 mongers, in COP pesos.

Monger 1. 400, 300, 300, 300k.

Monger 2. 300, 300, 250, 200k (1*). Accepted 200k offer with a 3 time repeat girl for TLN.

Monger 3 (me).300, 300, 200 (2*). Declined 200k offer for 1 hr.

Monger's 4-6. 300, 200, 100 (3*). Accepted 100k offer for 1+ hr at 5:30 in am.

(* Mongs 4-6 are 3 guys in their early 30's, blonde hair, blue eyes, good shape. Every Col girls fantasy.)

Summary: Majority of time Ldv girls will ask 300k+ to start, and won't go lower than 200 for any time frame.

You will have to negotiate every fking thing prior to leaving the bar,

Every angle, or they will try to use it as a angle for more pay.

It's like trying to do a business deal back home for the company or a car. Annoying. LOL.

Of course, I'm sure we will now hear from very experienced ctg'ers who will say they always get TLN from

LDV for 150, but for the rest of us these are real prices, right now.

I'm here for 4 more days and will check the beach action and centro / plaza domingo area.

Cheers. [/QUOTE]

All.

My first trip to Ctg was in 2001, I had great time, made friends that live here and mongers passing through.

Back then I could recommend it as a good monger destination.

I no longer recommend it. ESPECIALLY if your a newbie / rookie / basic Spanish.

LDV is joke now. I gave up there when I had 2 different girls actually turn their backs on me in the middle of conversation when I did'nt immediatedly say "Yes I want you". Most the girls are standing firm at 200k for 1hr.

300-500 for TLN. (No I'm not kidding, and yes this is the feedback from other mongers here also)

Worse, another monger said he did strike deal with one he thought he had a good vibe going.

They agreed on a price (150k for 2hrs) , so he danced, kissed, groped, and bought lotsa drinks in the mood for.

The fun coming. Later he said "ready?" and she said "Yes, for 300k for 1 hr."

Street action was ok, but 1 of my 2 picks, a waste of time lying about either her age or intentions when she stated she had a cedula and suddenly could not produce it at the hotel lobby.

Tried 3 different latinamericancupid girls for dates. All 3 no shows, only 1 called to say sorry.

If you don't want to take my word for it that things keep getting worse. 2 people I know here who somewhat like us mongers for business, and have lived here since the early 80's, (not working girls, but apartment renters, ground support. 1man-1woman). Told me my 1st day here." the girls are getting really bad."

I have heard there can be beach action in the afternoons for 120-200k for 1-2hrs, but I can not confirm this info.

Summary: If you are new to the monger game, I'd try somewhere else. For others its getting tougher to get value and have a decent time here in ol' Ctg. Not saying it is impossible, but getting tough.

I can recommend the seafood soup at Julia's restaurant in Laquito. YMMV.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Medellin Dreams; 1102471]All.

My first trip to Ctg was in 2001, I had great time, made friends that live here and mongers passing through.

Back then I could recommend it as a good monger destination.

I no longer recommend it. ESPECIALLY if your a newbie / rookie / basic Spanish.

LDV is joke now. I gave up there when I had 2 different girls actually turn their backs on me in the middle of conversation when I did'nt immediatedly say "Yes I want you". Most the girls are standing firm at 200k for 1hr.

S[/QUOTE]Whaaat? Are you not every colombian girl's dream?

Well, unless all this happened since Sept 2010 I couldn't agree with you. Hope you have better luck else where. I appreciate your report and realize that most women will try to get as much as possible, but I was in Cartagena 6 times in 2010 and had great times and great women. I speak very little espanol and have had great times there. I am going back in Feb and will report back but I already know I will have a great time because I make it happen. Thanks for your report.

[QUOTE=Medellin Dreams; 1102471]All.

My first trip to Ctg was in 2001, I had great time, made friends that live here and mongers passing through.

Back then I could recommend it as a good monger destination.

I no longer recommend it. ESPECIALLY if your a newbie / rookie / basic Spanish.

LDV is joke now. I gave up there when I had 2 different girls actually turn their backs on me in the middle of conversation when I did'nt immediatedly say "Yes I want you". Most the girls are standing firm at 200k for 1hr.

300-500 for TLN. (No I'm not kidding, and yes this is the feedback from other mongers here also)

Worse, another monger said he did strike deal with one he thought he had a good vibe going.

They agreed on a price (150k for 2hrs) , so he danced, kissed, groped, and bought lotsa drinks in the mood for.

The fun coming. Later he said "ready?" and she said "Yes, for 300k for 1 hr."

Street action was ok, but 1 of my 2 picks, a waste of time lying about either her age or intentions when she stated she had a cedula and suddenly could not produce it at the hotel lobby.

Tried 3 different latinamericancupid girls for dates. All 3 no shows, only 1 called to say sorry.

If you don't want to take my word for it that things keep getting worse. 2 people I know here who somewhat like us mongers for business, and have lived here since the early 80's, (not working girls, but apartment renters, ground support. 1man-1woman). Told me my 1st day here." the girls are getting really bad."

I have heard there can be beach action in the afternoons for 120-200k for 1-2hrs, but I can not confirm this info.

Summary: If you are new to the monger game, I'd try somewhere else. For others its getting tougher to get value and have a decent time here in ol' Ctg. Not saying it is impossible, but getting tough.

I can recommend the seafood soup at Julia's restaurant in Laquito. YMMV.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

Well, thats probably the difference, I didn't start going till 2 years ago, so as all places and prices, I am sure things have changed. Yes I was in Sosua last week and had a great time, but nothing compared to my trips to Colombia. The Colombian women make the Sosua women look like bag ladies and the type of class of visitors to Colombia is much classier then the general type of visitor to Sosua, which I prefer. Most of the guys that visit Sosua would not do very well with Colombian women in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Naples Guy1;1102497]Do not mean to rain on your parade Youcan, but like Medellin Dreams I was going to Cartagena quite often in the early 2000's, and have made a couple trips in the recent years, and things are so much different. The difference is like night and day, and it is not good. I still had a good time during my recent visits, but it was nothing like in the past, for the exact reasons Medellin Dreams pointed out. The thing I like about Cartagena is that it is just a hop, skip, and a jump for me to get to on Spirit Air, from my home in Naples. By the way, I just got back from a trip to Sosua and had a great time. Have you been back there lately?[/QUOTE]

I love this forum for the accuracy of its information.

Right now I am in Cartegna and after reading through the posts I just have to ask myself "why on earth would you even bother coming here to monger"? I am am just going to totally forget even thinking about it here and wait until I get to Medellin or Bogota or Santa Marta. If it doesn't happen at all then at those prices I really couldn't care less anyway.

Man I can get beautiful Brazilian or Colombian or Venezuluan or Japanses chicks in my home country for that price. No travel expenses and no hassles. Why even bother here?

I will report on other areas if anything does turn up but I am not even thinking about it here. I suggest if others did the same then some equilibrium may again be established.

Bowerboy, if you are rite now in Cartagena, then why would you be reading through the post? Why would you not be out partying and experiencing what is happening yourself? And reporting back. Last thing in the world I would be doing if I was in CTG is reading thru post on a computer? WTF? How can you not be thinking about it there? If you are there? What are you going to do sit in your apartment? Your post makes no fucking sense at all. I don't even know you and can see why no women would want to be with you or if she had to be, she would absolutely charge you an enormous rate, you really sound like a ball of fun, sitting at your laptop reading thru post? Yea!

[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1102517]I love this forum for the accuracy of its information.

Right now I am in Cartegna and after reading through the posts I just have to ask myself "why on earth would you even bother coming here to monger"? I am am just going to totally forget even thinking about it here and wait until I get to Medellin or Bogota or Santa Marta. If it doesn't happen at all then at those prices I really couldn't care less anyway.

Man I can get beautiful Brazilian or Colombian or Venezuluan or Japanses chicks in my home country for that price. No travel expenses and no hassles. Why even bother here?

I will report on other areas if anything does turn up but I am not even thinking about it here. I suggest if others did the same then some equilibrium may again be established. [/QUOTE]

You are quite the aggressive little man. Going by your other posts you need to relax a bit. I said I love the accuracy of the information on this site which is why I am not even bothering to look in Cartegena (other places I definitely will). Paying those prices and going though all that haggling about what they will and won't do. No thanks, but good luck to you if thats what you want. Go to your doctor and ask him for some Xanax, it will help brother.

Please bros in CTG now,

How's weather in CTG in these days? Is it raining very hard 24h / 24h? Has the Centro or Bocagrande suffered inundation? Sorry for the silly question, but I am seeing news and the North Colombia is not well in these days.

I am going to CTG tomorrow. What to expect?

Thank you if you can reply quickly.

[QUOTE=You Can;1102583]Bowerboy, if you are rite now in Cartagena, then why would you be reading through the post? Why would you not be out partying and experiencing what is happening yourself? And reporting back. Last thing in the world I would be doing if I was in CTG is reading thru post on a computer? WTF? How can you not be thinking about it there? If you are there? What are you going to do sit in your apartment? Your post makes no fucking sense at all. I don't even know you and can see why no women would want to be with you or if she had to be, she would absolutely charge you an enormous rate, you really sound like a ball of fun, sitting at your laptop reading thru post? Yea![/QUOTE]I actually enjoy the few down moments I have between drinking, clubbing, and chasing pussy as I travel. Web surfing, watching videos or just sitting on the balcony watching the city go by are my in house favorites. Your down time is a good time to gather yourself mentally. Do some pushups, count your money, or load some pictures onto this site. But if your in your room pouting about some bad chica that didn't fiuck you correct, thats another story.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1102642]You are quite the aggressive little man. Going by your other posts you need to relax a bit. I said I love the accuracy of the information on this site which is why I am not even bothering to look in Cartegena (other places I definitely will). Paying those prices and going though all that haggling about what they will and won't do. No thanks, but good luck to you if thats what you want. Go to your doctor and ask him for some Xanax, it will help brother.[/QUOTE]Dude, I hear ya but;

Recommending to THAT dude to take MORE drugs?

Not sure that's the best advice. LOL

[quote=you can;1102583]bowerboy, if you are rite now in cartagena, then why would you be reading through the post? why would you not be out partying and experiencing what is happening yourself? and reporting back. last thing in the world i would be doing if i was in ctg is reading thru post on a computer? wtf? how can you not be thinking about it there? if you are there? what are you going to do sit in your apartment? your post makes no fucking sense at all. i don't even know you and can see why no women would want to be with you or if she had to be, she would absolutely charge you an enormous rate, you really sound like a ball of fun, sitting at your laptop reading thru post? yea![/quote]i have to agree with you can to a certain extent. i have only been to ctg twice but both trips have been with in the last 4 months. this being said, i cannot comment on the good ol days since i don't have a point of reference beyond 4 months ago. i do take issue with the pricing. i took women out of ldv for $100-$150k. these were not 5, 6 or 7s. these were 8+ or 9s. yes, most did start at $250 or $300k. i did share my bottle of don medellin with them to build a repore before we negotiated. am i brad pitt. no. do i speak spanish. no but i didn't just launch into negotiations and low ball them. i spent a little time and chatted them up. i did get excellent lt for $200k as well.

street urchins are about $40-$50k. they start asking $100 or $250k. i didn't spend any time schmoozing these gals but simply walked away from their first number. they literally chased me down the street with lower numbers. yes, be careful of the **** urchins. they are tempting but do your checking. a good doorman will keep you out of trouble.

all this being said i am going to mde in january. not because ctg is too expensive or the girls are bitches but i am simply trying to expand my horizons. many of the women that i met in ctg were from mde so i am going to the source.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1102649]Please bros in CTG now,

How's weather in CTG in these days? Is it raining very hard 24h / 24h? Has the Centro or Bocagrande suffered inundation? Sorry for the silly question, but I am seeing news and the North Colombia is not well in these days.

I am going to CTG tomorrow. What to expect?

Thank you if you can reply quickly. [/QUOTE]Yes, it is raining pretty hard. Recently spoke with a Chica that I met last trip. She said it was raining every day. This is typical for this time of year. When I was out there the end of October the seas were so rough the waves were coming onto the road from the airport. Many flooded streets. Very limited beach action. I made walking Centro tough to do.

It rained all last night and pretty much all day today. Heavy rain indeed.

Folks,

What I hated of the Colombia forums was to see them moderated. I want to see my post posted as soon as I hit "enter".
Now, fortunately, the forum is not moderated anymore. If we want to keep it like that, shall we follow 2 simple Golden Rules?

1) never write personal attacks or use aggressive words.
2) if you are attacked, ignore and do not reply.

1) is not for everyone, but 2) is just a matter of self-discipline. Simple....

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1102987]Folks,

What I hated of the Colombia forums was to see them moderated. I want to see my post posted as soon as I hit "enter".

Now, fortunately, the forum is not moderated anymore. If we want to keep it like that, shall we follow 2 simple Golden Rules?

1) never write personal attacks or use aggressive words.

2) if you are attacked, ignore and do not reply.

1) is not for everyone, but 2) is just a matter of self-discipline. Simple. [/QUOTE]BP:

Very good and timely advice.

Agreed.

Especially for someone like Mr 3 reports who claims he knows people who know me.

Sheesh! Unbelieveable.

All the best, Schwmm

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1102649]Please bros in CTG now,

How's weather in CTG in these days? Is it raining very hard 24h / 24h? Has the Centro or Bocagrande suffered inundation? Sorry for the silly question, but I am seeing news and the North Colombia is not well in these days.

I am going to CTG tomorrow. What to expect?

Thank you if you can reply quickly. [/QUOTE]Looks like you may have arrived CTG now and was wondering if the rains are disrupting things for you? Like another guy posted, I've heard that the beaches, streets and the barrios have been quite affected, but do not know that from being there myself.

Hope you enjoy your visit to CTG and look forward to your reports!

Headed to CTG this week. Wondering how the action is in LDV and other places. Any new locations someone has uncovered would be most appreciated?

Thanks

JS

[QUOTE=Joey Smith; 1104677]Headed to CTG this week. Wondering how the action is in LDV and other places. Any new locations someone has uncovered would be most appreciated?

Thanks.

JS[/QUOTE]Amazingly, the Golden Rule is always: RTFF.

Scroll back up to 2 years, read the Reports of Distinction, and read also my long reports of 1-2 years ago, which are good for newbies.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1104847]Amazingly, the Golden Rule is always: RTFF.

Scroll back up to 2 years, read the Reports of Distinction, and read also my long reports of 1-2 years ago, which are good for newbies.[/QUOTE]If you can't answer the question why would you even comment with such a lame answer. Guys like you are so smug and detached.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1104996]If you can't answer the question why would you even comment with such a lame answer. Guys like you are so smug and detached.[/QUOTE]I did not mean to be lame. Please try to read back the RoD, as I wrote, and you'll discover that my answer was a good suggestion. The basic fact is that the answer to your question is already there. All what you ask is detailed in the RoD. After you read, you can ask precise questions and people will be happy to answer. Welcome to CTG.

Quick and short report.

Made it here the other day and as fortune would have it, ran into a Colombian amigo within an hour of arriving. He insisted that I should let him introduce me to some chicas, so I said ok and told him my preferences. The next 24 hours I pretty much stayed in my apartment to greet, meet and have fun with chicas he would introduce to me. 3 out of the 4 I found attractive and with the right vibe, while one I just didn't feel it with and had him politely send her on her way (I did give him taxi fare for her).

Why do I say "as fortune would have it"? Because with the recent rains having changed the beach scene (I was told that the sea was so high that there wasn't really any place for chairs and carpas in Playa Hollywood (I haven't gone yet so I can't say that from firsthand experience) , and with many of the working chicas having gone home for the holidays, having a local friend who knows local chicas can sure fill the void.

Went to LDV last night around 1 am around 30-40 chicas and maybe 12 or so hombres. As others have said, many of the chicas go home to be with family (as one would expect). Of the chicas there, I saw maybe only 5 or 6 that would be doable for me sober. Maybe another 5 or 6 would have been doable for me if I had been drinking earlier or walked-in with the mindset of needing "it" badly.

Again as one would probably expect, more chicas seemed a little desperate to get a man's attention. One chica in particular was a complete pain in the ass. Had to tell her on three different occassions that I was not interested and that I preferred to drink my beer alone at the time.

Stopped by Electra around 5 a.m. and as you can probably already guess---it was slim pickins' as compared to other times of the year. Also, just like in LDV, was approached by more chicas than usual, even with there being an overall low number of chicas compared to other times of the year.

Can not give out any "price quotes", as I did not broach that subject and did not take a chica home from either LDV or Electra. I'd had enough "fun" for my first day and a half that I just wasn't feeling it unless I found something that really made me stand at attention-and nothing did.

As a follow-up to the previous report, did make it to the beach and there are carpas, etc, in Playa Hollywood. They are all about 40 yards back from where they usually are, all the way up against the back border wall that seperates the beach from hotels / buildings.

Predominantly families and groups of friends at the beach, and of course Tony there wanting to introduce a "new" chica. Just hung out for a couple of hours and bought Tony a couple of beers. Hey, it's Christmas!

Mery got me into the Torre Centauro building, which she says is near the Hilton. In just looking at maps I'm having trouble orienting myself in CTG-no doubt it will be easier when I actually get there.

Is this walking distance to LDV? Has anyone created any good maps of CTG highlighting points of interest?

Thanks.

Torre Centauro is about a 3 minute walk from LDV located pretty much in the middle of Hilton and LDV.

I've stayed in 2 different apartments there and both were acceptable. Not at the Mirador del Laguito or Torre del Lago level but not super dated and more or less well run. The pool is on the roof and doesn't have much activity. The other negative is that there aren't many units with balconies.

What kind of pricing for what size place did you get?

[QUOTE=Blago; 1106485]Mery got me into the Torre Centauro building, which she says is near the Hilton. In just looking at maps I'm having trouble orienting myself in CTG-no doubt it will be easier when I actually get there.

Is this walking distance to LDV? Has anyone created any good maps of CTG highlighting points of interest?

Thanks. [/QUOTE]

Relize Mirador Del La Guito is no longer chica friendly.

Well I will be back with more info but already crazy stories to tell.

But after about a month of reading every thread here and maybe 300 posts about Tony numero uno,

The guy was standing at the reception counter of my apartment building when I arrived.

Coincidence? Quem sabe

But he did his pitch I said maybe later.

Thanks for info. Cost was 300, 000 Pesos per night, which I though as OK given the high season. The Hilton wants $375 a night.

[QUOTE=Havahopeful; 1106539]Torre Centauro is about a 3 minute walk from LDV located pretty much in the middle of Hilton and LDV.

I've stayed in 2 different apartments there and both were acceptable. Not at the Mirador del Laguito or Torre del Lago level but not super dated and more or less well run. The pool is on the roof and doesn't have much activity. The other negative is that there aren't many units with balconies.

What kind of pricing for what size place did you get? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blago; 1106485]Mery got me into the Torre Centauro building, which she says is near the Hilton. In just looking at maps I'm having trouble orienting myself in CTG-no doubt it will be easier when I actually get there.

Is this walking distance to LDV? Has anyone created any good maps of CTG highlighting points of interest?

Thanks. [/QUOTE]Blago, check World Travel's Cartagena Info post in the Cartagena Lists thread on this forum . He's put together a great list of information, and I believe there are links to a couple of maps on his list. I think now his post is probably on the 2nd most recent page in that thread. Spend some time checking out the other information on World Travel's post, as it contains a wealth of information all in one spot. You can also check out Cartagenainfo.net, but I'd start with World Travel's Cartagena list first.

Enjoy your trip!

Since when? I find that hard to believe.

[QUOTE=Dw1987;1106659]Relize Mirador Del La Guito is no longer chica friendly.[/QUOTE]

Both times I stayed at Mirador de Laguito almost all of my time was spent with the only 1 girl. 1 non pro and 1 pro that really didn't have the look of one. Before booking I asked if I can bring girls up without a problem and they said no issue so long as its only 1 girl.

Security was much stronger there than in some of the other buildings I have stayed at. Torre del Lago is a building where they don't seem to pay any attention to who comes and who goes. Surprising considering its a new beautiful building.

On another note 300, 000 seems a lot for Torre Centauro. I spent 200, 000 last year for the 2 bed 2 bath unit at Torre del Lago. That is the most I have ever paid for a 2 bed 2 bath. The year before I stayed at Torre Centauro for 180,000 for the 2 bed 2 bath with balcony. When I was only using 1 bedroom they reduced the price to 130,000. I have always traveled in February, March or October.

Have prices gone up a lot in the last year? Or are January prices considerably higher than February?

[QUOTE=Havahopeful; 1107021]On another note 300, 000 seems a lot for Torre Centauro. I spent 200, 000 last year for the 2 bed 2 bath unit at Torre del Lago. That is the most I have ever paid for a 2 bed 2 bath. The year before I stayed at Torre Centauro for 180, 000 for the 2 bed 2 bath with balcony. When I was only using 1 bedroom they reduced the price to 130, 000. I have always traveled in February, March or October.

Have prices gone up a lot in the last year? Or are January prices considerably higher than February? [/QUOTE]Decided against coming to CTG for New Years' week when was finding the good pads all booked. Now, to hear the prices being charged at the dumps, glad I didn't put myself through the aggravation.

My modest contribution to the knowledge base-walking directions from the Hilton Hotel (a good landmark in Laguito) to LDV:

Walking toward the Hilton, turn left on the street just before you enter the Hilton grounds. The street is Av. Retorno. This street curves around a small lagoon and keep following it around the lagoon until the sidewalk ends about 2/3 of the way around at Cra. 3. Walk left about a block on Cra. 3 and then make a left on Calle 4. If you are on the left side of Calle 4 it will curve to the left around the Hotel Caribe. After you make that curve you are on Carrera 1 (beach is on other side of street). Follow Carrera 1 for maybe 300M until you see a brown 2 story building on your right signed 'Pierino Gallo. ' LDV is on the second level, up the stairs. If you get there after midnight (as you should) you'll have no trouble at all finding the entrance.

About 15 minutes and should be safe since all the streets are busy day and night. I know taxis are cheap in CTG, but a nice walk to get the blood moving is a good thing too.

[QUOTE=Blago; 1107680]My modest contribution to the knowledge base-walking directions from the Hilton Hotel (a good landmark in Laguito) to LDV:

Walking toward the Hilton, turn left on the street just before you enter the Hilton grounds. The street is Av. Retorno. This street curves around a small lagoon and keep following it around the lagoon until the sidewalk ends about 2/3 of the way around at Cra. 3. Walk left about a block on Cra. 3 and then make a left on Calle 4. If you are on the left side of Calle 4 it will curve to the left around the Hotel Caribe. After you make that curve you are on Carrera 1 (beach is on other side of street). Follow Carrera 1 for maybe 300M until you see a brown 2 story building on your right signed 'Pierino Gallo. ' LDV is on the second level, up the stairs. If you get there after midnight (as you should) you'll have no trouble at all finding the entrance.

About 15 minutes and should be safe since all the streets are busy day and night. I know taxis are cheap in CTG, but a nice walk to get the blood moving is a good thing too. [/QUOTE]Why are you going out of the way to get to LDV? Walk out of the front door of the Hiton, go straight. DO NOT TURN. In five minutes you are there. When you get to the split in the road, if you angle left, the stairs are on the right and if you angle to the right, turn left past the building and left at the stairs. I can understand your way if you are taking a taxi because the street is one way and forms a complete loop around Laquito.

[QUOTE=Havahopeful;1107021]....Have prices gone up a lot in the last year? Or are January prices considerably higher than February?[/QUOTE]

To my knowledge, prices for apartments managed by Juan or Mery have generally stayed the same in the past year. I can think of an exception for the apartments that changed owners that Mery manages or used to manage, as the new owner is asking for quite a bit more than the previous owner.

The 300 mil pesos that Blago is paying is a high season price, probably close to double the non-high season rate. High season rates will cease on or around Jan. 15th.

[QUOTE=You Can;1106828]Since when? I find that hard to believe.[/QUOTE]I can confirm as of the end of November. 2010 that the Mirador was still chica friendly. That being said, they have been known to say no more than 2 chicas (working) , especially outside of say the 11 pm to 4 am timeframe. The lady administrator (the one with a frequent scowl on her face when you bring a chica to the lobby during the daylight hours) has made the guys at the front desk enforce a little more stricter policy than say 2 or 3 years ago.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1107132]Decided against coming to CTG for New Years' week when was finding the good pads all booked. Now, to hear the prices being charged at the dumps, glad I didn't put myself through the aggravation.[/QUOTE]I guess I've stayed in over a dozen apartments managed by either Juan or Mery, and while some have been nicer than others, I can't classify any of them as dumps. I'd be interested in learning which specific apartments you consider a dump? Would be good to know for future reference.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1107868]I can confirm as of the end of November. 2010 that the Mirador was still chica friendly. That being said, they have been known to say no more than 2 chicas (working) , especially outside of say the 11 pm to 4 am timeframe. The lady administrator (the one with a frequent scowl on her face when you bring a chica to the lobby during the daylight hours) has made the guys at the front desk enforce a little more stricter policy than say 2 or 3 years ago.[/QUOTE]Rented Playa Mar 302 from Juan in August 2010. No restrictions regarding girls but they do have to show I'd for age verification to the front desk. There are about 8 working girls that live directly across the street in a high rise. Thety sit outside in the afternoon and evenings. Great fun, GFE, they are 1/3 the price of the LDV girls and all are 7's to 9's. Look for Sandra or Roches. Fabulous girls. Also look for an old guy named Bill that sits in a chair outside Playa Mar every afternoon. Grat source of information. He's an x-pat and has lived there for decades.

[QUOTE=Tjecon;1107878]Also look for an old guy named Bill that sits in a chair outside Playa Mar every afternoon. Grat source of information. He's an x-pat and has lived there for decades.[/QUOTE]Good to hear that Bill is still alive and kickin' and the stag bench at Playa Mar is still in operation. Sandra has been a fave of mine for years. I'll be there in a couple of months, looking forward to seeing old friends and new ones that I'll make, especially the female ones.

I have been lazy after my trip to CTG in September (4 days). I feel lazy also now, after another trip to CTG in December (3 days) , but this time I force myself to write a summary report for both experiences.

[b]FOREWORD TO NEWBIES[/b]

I think that my old reports dated 2009 still present valid information, overall. I see only minor details that are outdated. Important things did not change. First-timers may find useful to read them, as an introduction to the places and things:
Part. 1
[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=832873[/url]
Part. 2
[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=832877[/url]
Part. 3
[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=832882[/url]
(linked also among RoD)

[b]La Dulce Vida[/b]

I don't like La Dulce Vida a.k.a. LDV (sometimes we should expand the acronym, to be not cryptic vs. Newcomers). I have been there 2-3 times again, in Sept. And Dec, and I always felt misplaced.

Many girls vs. Few men. 99% of them gringo looking. I remember a couple of guys pretending to be in a real disco, dancing very seriously in the middle of dance floor. When I was there, I could not refrain from thinking that most men I was seeing were probably lodging very close to LDV and maybe restricting their circle of activities in a 1-km radius in Bocagrande, without enjoying the life in CTG or even knowing what was the city like. .

What I don't like in LDV, especially, is that while I walk around I feel the eyes of all girls following me. At the same time, I scan all bodies and faces. There is something like a tension, which makes the place not really a disco, while it is still not really a brothel. Also, being early (typically 12 or 1am) , girls aim at long time TLN and propose high fees. Girls are mostly very professional. Of course, with patience some special one can be found.

[b]SEEKING ELSEWHERE[/b]

Considering my negative feeling at LDV, I always strove to find elsewhere some good company.

[i]OTHER CLUBS[/i]

I NEVER entered ISIS. I don't like the way they do marketing, spamming all streets nearby with poor guys repeating like a mantra "Isis, Isis, Isis caballero. Isis, Isis, Isis caballero. Isis, Isis, Isis caballero."

I tried Banana's this December. It's basically a BmD place (prices not very high) , but you can take out girls too. I actually had such a fun time with 3 girls. Paid a few drinks and had a lot of laugh, fun, strokes and touches back. I was proposed to take all 3 to the hotel for 300k. Thinking retrospectively, I should have said yes, but it was 12 and I thought to have all the night ahead for better opportunities.

Elektra is the place to go, in my opinion. It opens 3am. Starting 3:30am, it is packed with all girls out of LDV and other clubs. Given the low ratio man / girls, it is not necessarily true that at 3am all best girls have been already "booked". Actually, I've been often overwhelmed by the number of stunning girls available at Elektra. Hard to choose. Given the time, it is also easier to bargain for a better fee.

[i]A PRIVATE SITE[/i]

In September, I was bored of LDV, Elektra and streets and I wanted to go really off-track. I really wanted to find the casa in Zaragocilla mentioned by Otiers in his post (I think some weeks before Sept. 2010). I asked various taxi drivers, but nobody knew that place (What a pity! If anybody knows how to locate it, I will be grateful for that hint! Please PM me!).

A driver, finally, took me to a private house in Alcibia (near Av. Pedro de Heredia, after the Mercado del Bazurto). A nice kind lady runs this business at home. She lives there with husband and young daughter (no, she does not work, and she is such a sweetie). She can call girls, according to user requirements, and she also has a room in the back. She asks a tip for the room and the intermediation (I gave 30k and 50k). Negotiation is between me and the girl, chatting privately in front of a beer.

I have been there two times in Sept. And one time now in December. I went there by taxi and came back walking (from Bazurto to India Catalina does not take more than 30-40 minutes).

What I like of this place is the family environment and the fact that she can call free-lance girls from CTG barrios, not those working in bigger casas. To be honest, at least half of the girls she called for me looked hard-core (not the SYT I was looking for) , but I simply asked to propose me somebody different.

The first did not look particularly attractive to me, but she asked 200k for short time (!) , claiming she was unprofessional college student. My guess was that she was around 20yo and not so naive, anyway. After her, I talked with a younger, shorter and a bit chubby girl who definitely looked like a "first-timer" (no, not virgin, I mean not used to P4P). She asked me 80k and even asked if it was ok. I did not want to negotiate lower, because in CTG this is what you are asked to pay even with sleazy ones in CL. Media Luna. I really enjoyed her company and we also exchanged the phone numbers. Too bad I had to leave the day after and I could not meet her one more time!

I returned to this place also in December and I met another outstanding non-pro girl (but she asked 120k after negotiation!). What is surprising is that after I finished with this girl, another one came, but fat and looking like with years of working experience. The lady asked me if I wanted also her for the night, maybe. I am surprised, because she should know what kind of girls I like (and she did not insist, in fact).

[i]STREETS[/i]

The Center is not like years ago anymore. Girls in front of California Bar and CL. Media Luna are now the worst of the worst. The ones under the colonnade in the plaza del Reloy are mostly ugly and sleazy. BUT, there are always exceptions. .

In September, I had the chance to meet a tall black girl walking around the Plaza. She is still there, if you like. She was with a blond pregnant girl (5th month) , but she is not working anymore (she is now waiting to drop and she also found a nice man to stay with!). I started to talk and finally I invited them to eat something at the fast food in the plaza. I had a very nice time with them. They are honest girls (I am not ironic) and I enjoyed so much that I accepted to go with them in a room of a hotel nearby. I was asked 300k first (by the black girl, very skilful) , but we settled for 200k. I know it's pricey, but how could I miss the opportunity to play 3-some with a panther-body black girl and a preggy blondie? Not going to LDV, sure. And it was a rewarding experience indeed! (no, I don't give out details).

Next time, I think I will try the strategy I like to pursue in Bogota or Medellin. Pay a taxi driver to scout around bad areas and watch SWs. I found gems in this way. The problem is that 2 hours by taxi in Medellin cost 40k, in CTG it's different. Also, I have no idea about what areas would be good in CTG for SWs, outside Bocagrande and El Centro.

[b]WHAT HOTEL? [/b]

I cannot understand why so many people strive to have a girl from LDV to spend the whole night with them. Except few of them, they are very professional. I like to have a girl for all the night in my room only in the best conditions of GFE. I had such a feeling only in Asia (Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Batam, see my last report there). I think you know the sentence "We hobbyists do not pay a girl for sex, but for making her to disappear after sex". .

I add that I stay in a hotel in El Centro where it is forbidden to bring girls (people after 12 cannot enter if not registered UPON CHECK-IN!). Therefore, finding a good place for ST is imperative.

If you have time and plan to make longer your ST, I recommend La Jaiva (read my reports linked above). It's a nice love hotel at Crespo (10-12k from Reloy by taxi, maybe 15k / hour). It's super discreet: no cedula, no checkin. You enter by taxi in the box, pay the driver, climb the stairs, pay the maid through a small window. If you don't like the eyes of the doorman screening you when you enter the hotel with your girl, that's your place (I guess there are also shy ones among ISG readers).

If you want to stay at El Centro, there are various decent hotels nearby Reloy, which will rent you a clean room for 15k / hour. One I tried various times is Sol de las Indias 1 block from Elektra.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1108939]. I don't like La Dulce Vida a. K. A. LDV (sometimes we should expand the acronym, to be not cryptic vs. Newcomers).

[/QUOTE]Hey amigo, thanks for the Cartagena update!

Looks like I may be visiting for a couple days in Feb to go to a wedding.

Your reports will come in handy, I haven't been there in maybe 3 years.

Elektra sounds like fun but at 330 AM. Well, I'm a wimpo, and I'd just rather be sleeping at that time and I hate wasting the whole next day.

My personal LDV experiences have been good in the past.
As you say though, you have to be able to weed through the hard pros or at least be able to soften them up a bit.
Spanish skills are almost a must, unless you just don't mind paying the high asking prices with mechanical service.
If you can actually get these chicas to see you as a guy, maybe even a cool guy and not just a cash machine with a pecker, everything gets better and cheaper :)

Also, please correct me if I'm equivocado, but I believe LDV stands for 'la Dolce Vita', from the owner's Italian language, for 'the sweet life'.

Thanks again for the updates!

[QUOTE=Ricker;1108972]Also, please correct me if I'm equivocado, but I believe LDV stands for 'la Dolce Vita', from the owner's Italian language, for 'the sweet life'. [/QUOTE]Yes the owner is Italian, the (in) famous Aldo.

Re. LDV, I think you are right. I checked some web pages and the real name of the club is "La Dolce Vita". I am used to call it "La Dulce Vida", wrongly I think at this point, because most girls call it that way.

By the way,"La Dolce Vita" is the title of the famous movie by Federico Fellini. Aldo wanted to recall it, when he named the place.

Is March 16 to the 23 a good time to travel to Cartagena, Colombia? I m planning on visiting a few coastal cities like Santa Marta and Barranquilla.

Thanks for the info. Black page. It goes to show that there are a number of ways to approach this hobby in ctg. I am headed back in feb. For a week, may wind up going to the out of town beach for a couple of days. LDV is certianly a unique place and I think any newcomer to town should visit at least once. It is like a mini-help (Rio) in some ways. But it does lose its shock value. I felt the first time was almost overwelming, but with each additional time you realized you saw the same faces over and over. Plus they can be very hardened pros. You really have to search for the right connection. And yes, one time I was dancing like a regular club. Was pretty f. Ed up, just wanted to party (was burned out on fucking). Ran into a previous aquaintace, who was of the same mindset. So we just partied on as old friends. I also want to suggest to the newcomers to definitly try the beach scene, I personally felt you got much more of GFE from those girls, generally younger than ldv, not as rushed. A good late afternoon activity, and allows you to then go out to dinner, etc. With a clear head. Not so much on the prowl, BTW, tony #1 is as described, but he could definitly deliver on the goods. I prefer a variety of girls in the beginning, then look for one that has areally good connection, then spend a couple days with that one. Going to dinner, regular clubs in centro, etc. I see you prefer to search for casas, etc. To much work for me, but thats just me. I am looking forward to trying my luck at more places like tu candela, etc this time. My problem is my spanish is muy poco. Take care and enjoy your travels.

[QUOTE=Tjecon;1107878]There are about 8 working girls that live directly across the street in a high rise. Thety sit outside in the afternoon and evenings. Great fun, GFE, they are 1/3 the price of the LDV girls and all are 7's to 9's. Look for Sandra or Roches. Fabulous girls.[/QUOTE]I know Sandra, she is a very sweet girl and I think I know Roches but not sure. Is she the real skinny one with bubbly personality and very cute? I think she is the sister of Claudia. Who is also very cute.

[QUOTE=Travel Doc10;1109374]Thanks for the info. Black page. It goes to show that there are a number of ways to approach this hobby in ctg. I am headed back in feb. For a week, may wind up going to the out of town beach for a couple of days. LDV is certianly a unique place and I think any newcomer to town should visit at least once. It is like a mini-help (Rio) in some ways. But it does lose its shock value. I felt the first time was almost overwelming, but with each additional time you realized you saw the same faces over and over. Plus they can be very hardened pros. You really have to search for the right connection. And yes, one time I was dancing like a regular club. Was pretty f. Ed up, just wanted to party (was burned out on fucking). Ran into a previous aquaintace, who was of the same mindset. So we just partied on as old friends. I also want to suggest to the newcomers to definitly try the beach scene, I personally felt you got much more of GFE from those girls, generally younger than ldv, not as rushed. A good late afternoon activity, and allows you to then go out to dinner, etc. With a clear head. Not so much on the prowl, BTW, tony #1 is as described, but he could definitly deliver on the goods. I prefer a variety of girls in the beginning, then look for one that has areally good connection, then spend a couple days with that one. Going to dinner, regular clubs in centro, etc. [b]I see you prefer to search for casas[/b], etc. To much work for me, but thats just me. I am looking forward to trying my luck at more places like tu candela, etc this time. My problem is my spanish is muy poco. Take care and enjoy your travels.[/QUOTE]No, you are wrong.

I like the beach. I had my best encounters on the beach my first time in CTG (3 yrs ago, I think) , skipping Tony and the slime alike. This year and before, I did not see anything interesting on the beach, except pros and families or friends. I like to do what you did on the beach. I'll try again.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1109432]No, you are wrong.

I like the beach. I had my best encounters on the beach my first time in CTG (3 yrs ago, I think) , skipping Tony and the slime alike. This year and before, I did not see anything interesting on the beach, except pros and families or friends. I like to do what you did on the beach. I'll try again. [/QUOTE]BP,

Don't be too surprised that, mixed in with the families and friends, are girls that will go back to your apartment. Tony introduced me to a 20 something lady who was sitting with another woman and four young children. It turns out they were sisters and the children were her nephews and nieces. She had no problem earning a few extrra bucks. Last September, while I had time to kill before my ex showed up, I was introduced to a girl that had been playing in the surf and partying with a few other girls and guys. She was a college student there on break with her friends but still spent a few hours back in my apartment. She even had stayed too long and had to call her friends and the needed to leave quickly for Barranquilla.

About five years ago, I even found a beach girl without Tony's help. Tony was a little annoyed because he did not know her and wanted me to give him her info. Anyway I was in the water and she was alone about twenty feet in front of me. I slowly got closer and started to talk with her. She had just turned 18 and was there with her friend (boyfriend?) They both looked like the backpacker type, but I gave the two some beer and we talked. After a while I suggested she come back with me and the guy was OK with it. When she headed off to the water, he filled me in on how she screams when she has an orgasm. I let the guy take a quick shower at the apartment and showed him the door after I gave him 10K to go get something to eat at Julias. He was right, she was a screamer.

I wonder how Hollywood Beach is today? I read the Cartagena newpaper online each day and yesterday they had an article and pictures of Hollywood Beach. The water was all the way up to the cement wall and the bar / restaurant. The article stated the vendors have moved down to other beaches and the bar had closed. I am not sure if it was recent or if it was a few weeks ago when there was extreme flooding.

I did find a couple of casas near PleyClub. One was actually right behind it. It was interesting the first time I went in the afternoon and was not really opened. There is a courtyard where there are tables and bar and at the back was one shack that was closed. The madam pounded on the door for five minutes until the girl answered the door half asleep. I felt bad when I said no thanks. To me I just could not have sex with somebody forced to wake up. The next time I went, I found a great 25 year old from Monteria. The room was rather stark with the sheet only covering half of the dirty mattress. I will not go back because as I was leaving, I noticed there were quite a few girls looking very young. Later the cabbie told me they were 14. That is one problem I do not need to deal with.

I plan to go back to Cartagena in May, but it will be difficult. My wife was suppose to go to the embassy for her visa in August, but never showed up. I was with her in September and she said it was the embassy's fault and she was there. So I sent her money for a trip to Bogota in October, but once again she did not show up. A week later, I got an email telling me she did not wish to return to the USA. After a month, she wanted to know if we were still married and if I would move to Colombia. I told her I could not move there for at least ten more years. She said if we were to remain married, I would need to send her 2 million each month for expenses. I told her she is on her own and not to expect anyhting from me. I felt bad at Christmas because I know my stepson would be expecting me to be there and to bring him a new X-Box for his present.

Enough of that, just brought it up for those thinking of bringing home one of the cuties from Colombia. Think before you act. My ex did give up a good job six years ago when she came to the US and she only lasted three years before she got homesick. Now she owns a four bedroom condo on Av Consulado which I paid for and expected to live in when I retired. Funny thing about Colombian women, even when she knows she will be with another man someday, she still wants me to be at her beckon call. So when I come, I will need to hide out away from her friends' eyes. I can sneak to the beach and LDV at night, but the morning run and afternoon walk to Bocagrande is off the books. Too many people know me and my ex.

I hope all have a Happy New Year.

[QUOTE=Otiers; 1109472]I sent her money for a trip to Bogota in October, but once again she did not show up. A week later, I got an email telling me she did not wish to return to the USA. She said if we were still married, I would need to send her 2 million each month for expenses. Now she owns a four bedroom condo on Av Consulado which I paid for and expected to live in when I retired. When I come, I will need to hide out away from her friends' eyes. I can sneak to the beach and LDV at night, but the morning run and afternoon walk to Bocagrande is off the books. Too many people know me and my ex.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, and for offering the glimpse into what not to do.

So no one has any details about the casas in Cartagena? SO far it has been ask a taxi driver, no lists or addresses?

[QUOTE=Kdogg21;1109825]So no one has any details about the casas in Cartagena? SO far it has been ask a taxi driver, no lists or addresses?[/QUOTE]Are you offering to create a list? Thanks for helping.

There is a list, but most of them are Bar / Club type places, with rooms in the back.

[QUOTE=Kdogg21;1109825]So no one has any details about the casas in Cartagena? SO far it has been ask a taxi driver, no lists or addresses?[/QUOTE]

So I went to Cartagena.

Overall I enjoyed my stay and will return again some day. I was there during holiday season so I am sure it can be quite different but it was still Fun.

My first day there I arrived at play mar which I rented From Juan Ventura. This has been said many times here but once again Juan delivered and the whole experience with him was excellent. Highly recommended.

My first night I met a girl in a rather unusual way for me. I was talking with a friend in his apartment in a nearby building when his Colombian friend showed up with a girl for him. He had other plans so I jumped on this opportunity.

She was very cute and we spent the night together. We went to LDV where I was glad I already had support for the night since the selection was not good. 300k.

I partied like crazy the first night so did nothing on day 2.

Day 3 I met this girl at the beach was I ended up spending 2 days with. 500k 2 days.

I walked along the beach and on the main road in bocagrande.

Day 5 went to LDV and picked up Yenny. Dark skinned girl from Cali I think. Very thin. I think I have seen her picture here before. She was cute but the selection was more about finding the best of the bunch since there was very limited visible talent. 200K 5 hours or so.

Day 6 toured the city during the afternoon and then went out to some normal bars at night. Tu candella, Cafe del mar, etc.

Day 7 found this girl claudia out on the street in front of playa mar.

So only 4 in 7 days. Very relaxed week in Colombia. The holiday season seemed to impact the scene although I have nothing to compare it to.

Thanks for all the info on the board without which I would have been lost!

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Otiers;1110112]Are you offering to create a list? Thanks for helping.[/QUOTE]If I can get more information I will, I helped on the Cartagena list in the past and YOU?

[QUOTE=Kdogg21;1112749]If I can get more information I will, I helped on the Cartagena list in the past and YOU?[/QUOTE]Perhaps you should go down a few posts and read what I had posted. Look up my Reports of Distinction from September and read a few of the reports. Also, go to the Catagena Lists reports and it might provide plenty of information. There is so much information within the past ten pages that you will be as up to date as you need to be. Just don't be lazy and expect everyone to do the work for you. As the butler told the drunken Arthur in the 1980's movie,"Perhaps you would also like me to wash your dick for you". Dws.

Cartagena does not have many options for casas. They are more low key and the best is to ask a taxi driver to take you to one since they may open and close locations frequently. As my report only a few posts down suggests, go to the casa behind PleyClub. It is opened in the evening.

Hi guys, I will be coming back down in 3 1/2 weeks and wondering if the rains have let up yet. In November we had huge storms on a daily basis. On a more practical note, I'm wondering what your experience with colombiancupid has been. I have been chatting with a number of very pretty girls, who I imagine are semi-pros. But wonder if the hassle of trying to make arrangements, girls flaking out / not showing up, or just plain lack of chemistry makes it worth it. Of course we are all looking for that diamond in the rough who turns out to be total GFE and spends several days with you, but thinking it might just be easier to look in the usual spots and see what develops. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks

[QUOTE=Travel Doc10;1114057]Hi guys, I will be coming back down in 3 1/2 weeks and wondering if the rains have let up yet. In November we had huge storms on a daily basis. On a more practical note, I'm wondering what your experience with colombiancupid has been. I have been chatting with a number of very pretty girls, who I imagine are semi-pros. But wonder if the hassle of trying to make arrangements, girls flaking out / not showing up, or just plain lack of chemistry makes it worth it. Of course we are all looking for that diamond in the rough who turns out to be total GFE and spends several days with you, but thinking it might just be easier to look in the usual spots and see what develops. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks[/QUOTE]Colombian Cupid 4 years ago was good, now? It is full of prepagos and a way for bandidas to prey on gringos ala Romance Latina. Make sure you have at least 4 or 5 options on there because you will be disappointed by the flakyness and constant lies of the ladies. Maybe you can still find a diamond in the rough. Who knows?

[QUOTE=Travel Doc10;1109374]I also want to suggest to the newcomers to definitly try the beach scene, I personally felt you got much more of GFE from those girls, generally younger than ldv, not as rushed. A good late afternoon activity, and allows you to then go out to dinner, etc.[/QUOTE]This is a very thoughtful post. In my experience, this reflects the current state of things. I never would have considered spending time with Tony a few years back; he is a great example of a person who, if you give him an inch, or even a foot, he will dog after you for a yard. He is difficult.

But the reality is he is a known broker. Girls show up on the beach, knowing little or nothing about the Cartagena scene and they find him. Of course, there are other guys working this niche down the beach, but Tony is well-known on both the buy and sell side of the market. He speaks English and this gives him a major advantage in bringing people together. If you want to match up with someone quick, he can often help. He is the easiest way to connect with girls on the beach.

As TravelDoc10 suggests beach girls are often not long-term sex workers. A couple of years back Tony did not seem to have the same volume of connections and would ring up whoever was working the street. He is annoying, but dealing with him saves time, costs a little (unless you get drawn into his vortex of bullshit) and can set you up with a gem.

If you are in Cartagena right now you might ask him about either Mary Paz or Cindy. As of this week, either of these girls trumps [I]any[/I] Girl at LDV in terms of attitude and most of them in terms of looks. They both shot me honest Christmas-style smiles when I dropped 200k COP on them for a few hours work. Mary Paz cleaned my place top-to-bottom in her bikini (not my fetish, I did not ask; her charming neurosis). The reality is they will probably leave town soon, but Tony talks to many girls every day.

Many LDV women seem to expect 200k COP for one pop these days. At least that's where the negotiations will start. Some look great, but a lot of the LDV girls smell really bad when you screw them; they almost all have worked for years. They almost all watch the clock. Although they might compare well against sex workers in, say, the USA they do not compare well against their own reputation from even a few years back. They do not compare well against what you can find combing the beach.

I'm in Cartagena now. My second time here. Please don't come here. It sucks. It's bad. Smelly, dirty and lots of violence. No one speaks English. Food is a nightmare.

Hehehe. Mine. All mine.

Seriously though. JD is on the money. Personally I despise the dolled up Kardashian look the hardcore pros are emulating. It's usually a dead give away for shitty service.

I'm heading to Cartagena next week. From the photo the beach seems totaly washed away has that changed in the last few days? What kind of shape is hollywood beach in? Are there any areas were the beach is normal? Is tony still around hollywood? Is there still action on the beaches?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Loumann; 1114843]I'm heading to Cartagena next week. From the photo the beach seems totaly washed away has that changed in the last few days? What kind of shape is hollywood beach in? Are there any areas were the beach is normal? Is tony still around hollywood? Is there still action on the beaches?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Tony is still there, nose dripping and sniffing like crazy. Beach is dirty as usual. Pretty small beach but still better friends to be found there than other venues.

Try San Andres.

It is funny it is an Island of Colombia, but it closer to Honduras.

They is still a Political Problem as to who has the rights to the Island?

[QUOTE=Neverenuff;1115315]Tony is still there, nose dripping and sniffing like crazy. Beach is dirty as usual. Pretty small beach but still better friends to be found there than other venues.[/QUOTE]

it's actually a dispute with nicaragua as to ownership as the island, which used to belong to nic though colombia 'appropriated' san andres in the early to mid 20th century. the only political problem is sour grapes on the part of nic. ps: they ain't getting it back. mainland colombians cannot stay there indefinitely and they need a visa, which provides a max of 90 days on the island. it's kind of bizarre regulation and it is like saying americans needed a visa to go to hawaii.

as for the island, i went there last summer. they have a little club outside of the center where you can take out girls for the day or have a go with them at the club. i think it's called sexi but any taxi driver knows the location. most of the girls at the club seem to be from mde and have the same visa's noted above. i took one out and had a very nice time with her that evening and the next day. pretty hot girl and total gfe. overall, the beaches are very few and not all that great, the hotels are overpriced and sub class, and the food / restaurants options are marginal. the main town sucks and the night life is lacking. i was bored to death after 4 days.

[quote=world travel 69; 1115367]try san andres.

it is funny it is an island of colombia, but it closer to honduras.

they is still a political problem as to who has the rights to the island? [/quote]

[QUOTE=World Travel 69; 1115367]Try San Andres.

It is funny it is an Island of Colombia, but it closer to Honduras.

They is still a Political Problem as to who has the rights to the Island? [/QUOTE]The water there is great, but I think when the guy was talking about CTG beach he was also interested in P4P.

In San Andres the pickings are very slim indeed. I have been there twice and have found the best bet is to bring your own.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1115395]... San Andres ... Mainland Colombians cannot stay there indefinitely and they need a visa, which provides a max of 90 days on the island. It's kind of bizarre regulation and it is like saying Americans needed a visa to go to Hawaii.[/QUOTE]I'm not disputing your statement really regarding Colombianos needing visas in San Andres, because I'm definitely no expert on the subject, however, I've been there a couple times with Colombian girlfriends and I don't remember them getting visas for the vist, unless maybe the visa was issued upon arrival.

I also remember meetings lots of Colombians working there on the island that had been there for years but were from the mainland Colombia.

Well, I could be wrong about that. An attorney on the island told me about the visa or some other type restriction so it's only hearsay. The attorney also said that if you marry someone from the island who has established residency, then you have resident status as well. Plus the girl I met from MDE who was working at the club said she was only allowed to be there for 90 days. I was also told that there are quite a few mainland Colombians on the island who technically should not be there.

Apparently, San Andreans don't want a bunch of mainlanders coming over and mucking things up for the locals but someone who is better informed about all these things can clarify or modify my original statement. One other thing, it is my understanding that there are only a very few Americans who live there permanently for the same reason and they are married to locals.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1115592]I'm not disputing your statement really regarding Colombianos needing visas in San Andres, because I'm definitely no expert on the subject, however, I've been there a couple times with Colombian girlfriends and I don't remember them getting visas for the vist, unless maybe the visa was issued upon arrival.

I also remember meetings lots of Colombians working there on the island that had been there for years but were from the mainland Colombia. [/QUOTE]

Gents,

I will be going to Cartagena this weekend on sort of a last minute trip. Unfortunately all the apartments that I looked for are booked. I have found the reasonably priced Hotel Playa which suites my needs. Does anyone know if it is guest friendly? I have searched the forums and I know apartments are preferred. But someone has to have some info on a guest friendly hotel, please. I appreciate any and all input, thanks!

[QUOTE=Flaco Loco; 1116530]Gents,

I will be going to Cartagena this weekend on sort of a last minute trip. Unfortunately all the apartments that I looked for are booked. I have found the reasonably priced Hotel Playa which suites my needs. Does anyone know if it is guest friendly? I have searched the forums and I know apartments are preferred. But someone has to have some info on a guest friendly hotel, please. I appreciate any and all input, thanks! [/QUOTE]I may be able to help you out with an apartment. Send me your dates and I will look. Vagabundo at chatconmigo dot com.

Martin

[QUOTE=Flaco Loco; 1116530]Gents,

Near the Beach and close to LDV

Most hotels with want a few bucks.

Sometimes if you rent a room for two people, you may not be bothered paying extra.

I have stayed at this hotel a few times. I never brought anyone to Hotel, but the people that work there, seem like you should have to much of a problem.

There is a love motel a few doors down the street, for a quickie.

Hotel Playa, Avenida San Martin # 4-87, Bocagrande. Rates: 136k. 200k, Pool, WiFi downstairs only. Tel: (57) (5) 665 0552, 665 0579, 665 0593, Fax: (57) 95) 665 0036. E-Mail: [email]reservas@cartagenahotelplaya.com[/email] [url]http://www.hotelplayactg.com/home.htm[/url]

I will be going to Cartagena this weekend on sort of a last minute trip. Unfortunately all the apartments that I looked for are booked. I have found the reasonably priced Hotel Playa which suites my needs. Does anyone know if it is guest friendly? I have searched the forums and I know apartments are preferred. But someone has to have some info on a guest friendly hotel, please. I appreciate any and all input, thanks! [/QUOTE]That is your best Bet. Let us know What Happens, We are Waiting with your happy times report?

I went to the club Isis in the Centro of Cartagena the other day. Some negative views on this forum about this place so I was curious about this place. I was positively surprised. When I arrived around 11 the place was packed with girls, most of them well over average pretty. Some guests, but not many. Also a relexed athmosphere.

I immidiately noticed a girl standing at the bar, young, looked "innocent", small in stature and beautiful, at least a 9 for my taste. I chatted her up and bought her a drink. She quoted 260 k pesos for one hour, I managed to get it down to 210 k. And off we went. She said it was her first day at Isis, and this seemed to be true, she didn't know the way to the hotel. (A short term hotel three blocks away. 25 k). A guy from the club went with us and showed us the way. Quiet funny.

The sex was really nice, the BJ was covered, but good. And yes, she had a real tight pussy. Maybe it was true it was her first time in this job, well anyway funny to think about. Her name is Paula, but don't you guys spil her!

Alas, I can recommend Isis, se the lists for the address. A good end of my Colombia-trip, now I am off to Asia.

I'm glad you had a good time and I am not trying to bust your balls. But you got ripped off and then on top of that a covered BJ. Fuck that, I don't pay that much for a girl to stay alnight.

[QUOTE=John Traveller; 1117916]I went to the club Isis in the Centro of Cartagena the other day. Some negative views on this forum about this place so I was curious about this place. I was positively surprised. When I arrived around 11 the place was packed with girls, most of them well over average pretty. Some guests, but not many. Also a relexed athmosphere.

I immidiately noticed a girl standing at the bar, young, looked "innocent", small in stature and beautiful, at least a 9 for my taste. I chatted her up and bought her a drink. She quoted 260 k pesos for one hour, I managed to get it down to 210 k. And off we went. She said it was her first day at Isis, and this seemed to be true, she didn't know the way to the hotel. (A short term hotel three blocks away. 25 k). A guy from the club went with us and showed us the way. Quiet funny.

The sex was really nice, the BJ was covered, but good. And yes, she had a real tight pussy. Maybe it was true it was her first time in this job, well anyway funny to think about. Her name is Paula, but don't you guys spil her!

Alas, I can recommend Isis, se the lists for the address. A good end of my Colombia-trip, now I am off to Asia. [/QUOTE]

Hey guys.

Here is some good news for anyione in Cartagena now, Carolina is back in town and ready to party.

She also has a friend if your in the mood for 2 hot Chickas.

She is 150 cop for an hour and will also do TLN for about 300 cop.

Best blow job you will ever have and a great piece of ass.

Make sure you have some music in your room as she also loves to dance and strip down before doing the deed.

Usually works at LDV but I also have her cellular number so message me and I will give it to you.

Happy hunting.

Studly

[QUOTE=John Traveller; 1117916]I went to the club Isis in the Centro of Cartagena the other day. Some negative views on this forum about this place so I was curious about this place. I was positively surprised. When I arrived around 11 the place was packed with girls, most of them well over average pretty. Some guests, but not many. Also a relexed athmosphere.

I immidiately noticed a girl standing at the bar, young, looked "innocent", small in stature and beautiful, at least a 9 for my taste. I chatted her up and bought her a drink. She quoted 260 k pesos for one hour, I managed to get it down to 210 k. And off we went. She said it was her first day at Isis, and this seemed to be true, she didn't know the way to the hotel. (A short term hotel three blocks away. 25 k). A guy from the club went with us and showed us the way. Quiet funny.

The sex was really nice, the BJ was covered, but good. And yes, she had a real tight pussy. Maybe it was true it was her first time in this job, well anyway funny to think about. Her name is Paula, but don't you guys spil her!

Alas, I can recommend Isis, se the lists for the address. A good end of my Colombia-trip, now I am off to Asia. [/QUOTE]Great report John, thanks for your honesty. I just got back from Costa Rica last week and girls would say"100usd for an hour. 300usd tln" before they say their name. But you let the guys on that board tell it, they were getting girls for 50usd for an hour. There are some places there that are timed and reasonable, but most of those guys are paying top dollar.

I respect a guy who can honestly post good or bad. As long as he isn't taking advantage of the situation.

I'm planning my next trip to CTG and I will be arriving on a Saturday afternoon to Bogota and after at 22:00 pm to Ctg.

Anybody knows if there are banks or money changers open in Bogota or Cartagena airports at this time?

I use to exchange money at CC Carulla (Money Gramm) in Laguito but at this time is close and on Sunday too.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Mastorr; 1118302]I'm planning my next trip to CTG and I will be arriving on a Saturday afternoon to Bogota and after at 22:00 pm to Ctg.

Anybody knows if there are banks or money changers open in Bogota or Cartagena airports at this time?

I use to exchange money at CC Carulla (Money Gramm) in Laguito but at this time is close and on Sunday too.

Thanks. [/QUOTE]But why you want a money changer instead of an ATM?

ATMs are by far the [u]cheapest[/u] Way to get local currency, not only in Colombia but in many countries (please note: use SAVINGS ACCOUNT, not the cash advance of credit cards) , not to mention that they are everywhere and open 24/24, and also that you don't have to carry all cash with you when you travel.

I strongly recommend to avoid money changers. I wrote many reports about this, with all explanations and cost comparison, so I don't repeat the various reasons here.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1118333]But why you want a money changer instead of an ATM?

ATMs are by far the [u]cheapest[/u] Way to get local currency, not only in Colombia but in many countries (please note: use SAVINGS ACCOUNT, not the cash advance of credit cards) , not to mention that they are everywhere and open 24/24, and also that you don't have to carry all cash with you when you travel.

I strongly recommend to avoid money changers. I wrote many reports about this, with all explanations and cost comparison, so I don't repeat the various reasons here. [/QUOTE]With my card (not credit card) , if I get cash in ATMs different from my bank, this creates high commission for the amount taken.

No Problem.

Go there and tell them, they sent you an OK For your Price.

Be Strong.

It is the same in all of S. A.

Tell them, Gary the old Bald headed Guy, Said it is OK for the price.

[QUOTE=Flaco Loco; 1116530]Gents,

I will be going to Cartagena this weekend on sort of a last minute trip. Unfortunately all the apartments that I looked for are booked. I have found the reasonably priced Hotel Playa which suites my needs. Does anyone know if it is guest friendly? I have searched the forums and I know apartments are preferred. But someone has to have some info on a guest friendly hotel, please. I appreciate any and all input, thanks! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mastorr;1118657]With my card (not credit card) , if I get cash in ATMs different from my bank, this creates high commission for the amount taken.[/QUOTE]If your bank treats you like that on the debit card, it probably robs you also in other ways. Maybe change?
With any card carrying the Maestro logo (the debit card of MasterCard) : 2 EUR fixed fee + 1% fee on the current [i]interbank exchange rate[/i].

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1118749]If your bank treats you like that on the debit card, it probably robs you also in other ways. Maybe change?

With any card carrying the Maestro logo (the debit card of MasterCard) : 2 EUR fixed fee + 1% fee on the current [i]interbank exchange rate[/i]. [/QUOTE]Yes, my debit card is MasterCard but I don't know what is the difference (current exchange) between money changer and ATM. I suppose will be a little bit higher in ATM but if you add, (in each operation) .2 EUR + 1 % fee on the current interbank exchange rate. I repeat that it is only using the math.

I spent 6 days in Bocagrande in early December. Here's my report.

I stayed at bargain hotel first 2 night, Hotel Crisor on Cra 3. It is only 42K per night and no chica charge if she is there less than 3 hours. Night security guard will try to charge you but just remind him you know the policy. Run is small and basic but it has A / C, wireless internet and small TV (though mine didn't work so well). No hot water if that's important to you.

The last 4 nights I stayed at Hotel Bocagrande on Cra 2, the main strip with all the shopping stores. The gave me a multiple night discount for 4 nights and paying in advance. 112K for 1 person or 153K for 2 people (no hassles regardless if your chicas changed regularly). This room was larger, modern flat screen TV, balcony out back, newer furniture, A / C, wireless Internet, but again no hot water. Place also has decent restaurant onsite.

First night (Tuesday) I went to the "fish bowl" known as LDV. I call it that because as others have stated, sometimes you are only on of very few men in there and you feel like you are in a fish bowl being watched from outside as the eyes follow you. I don't like the vibe of the place at all, but where else you going to go for freelancers at 11pm on any night? I didn't like many of the chicas there but I did really like one fine young thing. She had showing midriff with flat stomach and beautiful breasts with niples piercing through her sweater. She was 9 to 9. 5 and nothing else better than a 7 in the place. I waited a bit because I hated the fishbowl feeling and didn't want to stared at as I introduced myself. That was a mistake because 60-year old guy (I'm 45) came right up to her, sat her down and bought her a drink. Shit. Missed my opportunity.

Fortunately, the conversation between old guy and hottie didn't go well and she left him and went back to stand next to her friend. Learning from my mistake I went right up to her and said Hello. After a quick chit chat she tells me $250K for 2 hours and then before I can respond she drops down to $200K for 2 hours. Carolina, age 20, I think about negotiating but since I like her way more than anyone else in the place I agree (I paid $150-180K for simiilar in 2008). Back to my hotel we go. She is absolutely gorgeous and friendly but has one flaw. She is GFE when music is on and we are talking, singing or dancing, but once we get into the sex stuff she gets into mechanical mode. Her breasts are natural but maybe the best naturals I've ever touched. Think Alexis Love's body. Her face was different but body very much like Alexis Love. Thin legs, butt and arms but firm, round breasts and beautiful face.

After 2 hours she left and I made an appointment with her the next day. Wednesday day and night I spent with her again, hanging out, enjoying meals, music, talking and of course doing the nasty. She was a very nice girl, super pretty, but the mechanical nature of the sex got old on me and I wanted someone who would really kiss me. Not someone who was going through the motions. I coached her to improve performance and while she tried a little I knew I would just get more frustrated if I didn't get someone who was enjoying sex and kissing at least 1/2 as much as I was. We said a friendly good-bye and I put her on the backup plan for the rest of my trip.

Thursday day I tried hiring a taxi driver to drive me around and look for chicas. One guy had a cousin who knew some girls from the barrio that he would call in. They made the call and the girls were riding in from 45 minutes out. I told him not to do it as there was a 90% chance they wouldn't meet my standards. Onward we drove around Cartagena and looked meanwhile 2 chicas came on the back of motorcyles to Bocagrande. After 1 hour and 40 minutes later. 2 chicas showed up. One had way too much makeup and looked like she had lost a fight 2 days ago, the other was cuteish but looked young and immature in a non-arousing way. I felt terrible that the girls had spent time getting fixed up to come meet a payday gringo only to be quickly dismissed with barely a Hello. But hell, I'm not going to waste my vacation with a girl I'm not attracted to. I told cab driver I wouldn't pay if I didn't like them. The girls took off on motorcycles after 3 minutes of awkward silence. I knew motos weren't free and felt awkward. Taxi driver said he gave them 15K. I asked him what he wanted and he said just give him 10K on top of taxi fare. I agree and left empty-handed for the afternoon. Though I do enjoy the hunt, the chase in and of itself.

Thursday night, I didn't like anything at LDV and then on my taxi ride to El Centro my driver tells me PleyClub has some very pretty girls and he'll take me there for 15K round trip. It is too early for Elecktra so I agree. Free entrance at Pleyclub and drinks are 10K and up. This place is closest to the strip clubs we have back in the states in some ways. It is a big square room, bar on one side, small stage in the center, every 20 minutes a girl comes out and does a pole dance for 2-3 songs and strips down to nothing or as much as she is comfortable with (most get completely nude). The best part of this club is the other chicas who are not dancing on stage wander around, sit, drink, talk and fondle the patrons. I had one girls come up and give me a little lap dance, pull her top down and put her breast in my face and kiss my ears. Quite a turn on. There were girls 8-8. 5 and some 7-7. 5s in looks. I prefer younger and innocent look as opposed to girls 25+, a little or a lot hardened looking and too much makeup (too much of that in LDV for my tastes)

Onsite prices at Pleyclub are 170K for 40 minutes although I got some variations of that price higher and lower depending on the chica. Low as 140K and high as 220K. I told them not looking for onsite but I did get Sharon's number for daytime activity Friday. She had a great smile, beautiful long brown hair and was quite uninhibited. In Pleyclub, none of the girls are uptight and worried what will other girls will think of them. I usually ask a girl to give me a sample kiss in the club / bar to get a sense of how much they GFE / sensual they will be in private. History indicates this is a very reliable test, although some shy girls who don't kiss can be good in private. In LDV, girls don't want to be seen kissing in front of others, but in PC, I had several french kiss me, sit in my lap and massage my back. So much friendlier. I left after thoroughly enjoying myself cozying up to too hotties.

After PleyClub, I hit Elecktra on the way back. There I say a beautiful young girl, Mayra. 19, college student. She has a bit of an Asian look but is 100% Colombian. Sweet long legs, nice C-cup natural breasts and sexy smile. We agree upon 2-3 hours for 200K. She declines the kissing test in the club but she takes the kissing test on the taxi ride and scores a B. Back in the room, she is fun, high-energy, dancing, chatting, and has a smoking body. She gets really turned on and comes when I give oral. I like to take my time and go slowly and sensually in bed. She starts alright but finishes up pretty quickly and claims she wants to get home before sun comes up because what will her neighbors think. I was a little disappointed at the quick departure, but at the same time I'm in awe of how in the past 3 days I've just bed a 19yo and a 20yo who were both solid 9s. Totally amazing!

Friday I call Sharon from the Pleyclub to come visit me during the day. She comes over and within minutes we are naked in the bed together like long lost lovers. She seems to be as into it as I am and I just can't get enough. She has a very nice body, she's 24/25 and has 2 kids at home (some distance away from CTG) being watched by her mom, nice breasts, great smile, talented tongue. We spend about 2. 5 hours in the bed and then head to the beach for some relaxing and people-watching. It is a relaxing, GFE time with her on the beach. Then back to room, more sex then dinner and she heads back to work. Friday night I'm fairly worn out from Sharon and don't hookup with a chica that evening. I do visit LDV out of curiosity but I don't see anything to my liking other than Carolina (while she's a 9, the lack of kissing brings her down to a 7, and Sharon's an 8 who kisses like a 10). [ Note: I speak Spanish reasonably well ]

Saturday I have an appointment with Sharon and Mayra (oops! Double-booked myself) but Sharon is slow to return my phone calls and Mayra never shows up. So I start walking the beach in search of talent. I enlist one taxi driver who walks the beach with me and drives me around BC. Sharon now calls back but I'm so excited by the hunt and finding some fresh young thing that I don't want her to come over. I let her call go to voicemail and continue my search.

On the beach with the taxi driver, I keep pointing out girls and he's telling me if she's a tourist or a working girl. Turns out that I'm only attracted to the pure looking, innocent tourists and not the hardened, older looking working girls. Not that all the working girls are old, but they do have a "worn" or "hard' look about them in many cases. I even visit with Tony who points me at 2 girls who while both attractive, are both a step down from the 3 girls I've had in the last 4 days. I give that up and walk the streets of Bocagrande. I spot a cute, nicely dressed girl walking the street. I say Hello, and offer to buy her coffee. She accepts and we sit down for a nice chat at Juan Valdez. She works for a local hotel and just finished for the day. I invite her to come swimming with me and she tells me she's having her period, which kinda kills the deal on swimming or anything else for that matter. I got her number for my next visit.

Saturday is my last full day and I'm desperately trying to find a chica and makeout with her in the ocean. A personal favorite activity of mine. Time is running out as it is 3pm. I try Mayra who was supposed to call me at 11am and she is still not picking up her phone. No luck. I call Carolina and she says she'll be there at 4pm. I have a girl I met on the internet who has kept calling me since the day I arrived. I decide to invite her to come when Carolina is already 1 hour late at 5pm. I decide I'm taking the first girl that shows up. Turns out it is the Internet girl. She's up for the beach and we head down there just as the sun as setting. She's easy-going, no problem getting her hair wet, cuddling with me in the ocean. We have a nice relaxing time as the sun completely sets. Then we go back to the hotel. I ask her if she wants to shower. She says yes. I say can I join you, she says "yes, but you can't touch me." in a playful way.

We get undressed and get in the shower, I honor the no touch policy until my little friend is standing at full attention and the sexual tension has peaked. She is short. 5,0, petite spinner with small chest, shoulder length hair. 22yo pretty but not head-turning. We start making out in the shower and had I a condom right there something might of happened in that shower. My experience is though that shower water usually kills the lubrication of a condom and makes it difficult to wear a "shower cap" and make love in the shower. Internet girl is super GFE, a great kisser and enjoys the sex as much as I do. We have a great time in bed, have dinner together, more sex after dinner and then I send her home around midnight. I gave her 170K.

Sunday, I'm flying out at 1:30pm, leaving for airport at noon, but Internet girls comes over at 9am and we have another terrific session in the bed. She gets her first vibrator experience and really likes it. She's a very cool chick, good conversation, enjoying music and sharing stories about life. Then a quick lunch across the street at American broasted and off to the airport.

Overall a very successful trip in CTG. However I will say that if not for Carolina and Mayra in LDV and Elecktra, I may not have selected anything from those 2 clubs. Granted I am quite particular about selecting very pretty and young, trim bodies.

I'm headed back this Thursday for a 4-day trip. I'm going to start with the Internet girl and hotel employee, then look for girls on the beach, in shopping areas, and then look at LDV and Electra. I'm flying out of Atlantic City on Spirit Air for $537 (plus $20 each way for baggage charge). There prices are much lower than anything else I can find in Philadelphia.

Thanks to all those who have shared their stories and info. I hope you enjoyed this.

Thanks for writing a full report. I enjoyed reading it very much, although my taste differ very much from yours, I always appreciate someone who takes the time to write such a detailed report.

[QUOTE=Kyle Fox; 1119008]I spent 6 days in Bocagrande in early December. Here's my report.

I stayed at bargain hotel first 2 night, Hotel Crisor on Cra 3. It is only 42K per night and no chica charge if she is there less than 3 hours. Night security guard will try to charge you but just remind him you know the policy. Run is small and basic but it has A / C, wireless internet and small TV (though mine didn't work so well). No hot water if that's important to you.

The last 4 nights I stayed at Hotel Bocagrande on Cra 2, the main strip with all the shopping stores. The gave me a multiple night discount for 4 nights and paying in advance. 112K for 1 person or 153K for 2 people (no hassles regardless if your chicas changed regularly). This room was larger, modern flat screen TV, balcony out back, newer furniture, A / C, wireless Internet, but again no hot water. Place also has decent restaurant onsite.

First night (Tuesday) I went to the "fish bowl" known as LDV. I call it that because as others have stated, sometimes you are only on of very few men in there and you feel like you are in a fish bowl being watched from outside as the eyes follow you. I don't like the vibe of the place at all, but where else you going to go for freelancers at 11pm on any night? I didn't like many of the chicas there but I did really like one fine young thing. She had showing midriff with flat stomach and beautiful breasts with niples piercing through her sweater. She was 9 to 9. 5 and nothing else better than a 7 in the place. I waited a bit because I hated the fishbowl feeling and didn't want to stared at as I introduced myself. That was a mistake because 60-year old guy (I'm 45) came right up to her, sat her down and bought her a drink. Shit. Missed my opportunity.

Fortunately, the conversation between old guy and hottie didn't go well and she left him and went back to stand next to her friend. Learning from my mistake I went right up to her and said Hello. After a quick chit chat she tells me $250K for 2 hours and then before I can respond she drops down to $200K for 2 hours. Carolina, age 20, I think about negotiating but since I like her way more than anyone else in the place I agree (I paid $150-180K for simiilar in 2008). Back to my hotel we go. She is absolutely gorgeous and friendly but has one flaw. She is GFE when music is on and we are talking, singing or dancing, but once we get into the sex stuff she gets into mechanical mode. Her breasts are natural but maybe the best naturals I've ever touched. Think Alexis Love's body. Her face was different but body very much like Alexis Love. Thin legs, butt and arms but firm, round breasts and beautiful face.

After 2 hours she left and I made an appointment with her the next day. Wednesday day and night I spent with her again, hanging out, enjoying meals, music, talking and of course doing the nasty. She was a very nice girl, super pretty, but the mechanical nature of the sex got old on me and I wanted someone who would really kiss me. Not someone who was going through the motions. I coached her to improve performance and while she tried a little I knew I would just get more frustrated if I didn't get someone who was enjoying sex and kissing at least 1/2 as much as I was. We said a friendly good-bye and I put her on the backup plan for the rest of my trip.

Thursday day I tried hiring a taxi driver to drive me around and look for chicas. One guy had a cousin who knew some girls from the barrio that he would call in. They made the call and the girls were riding in from 45 minutes out. I told him not to do it as there was a 90% chance they wouldn't meet my standards. Onward we drove around Cartagena and looked meanwhile 2 chicas came on the back of motorcyles to Bocagrande. After 1 hour and 40 minutes later. 2 chicas showed up. One had way too much makeup and looked like she had lost a fight 2 days ago, the other was cuteish but looked young and immature in a non-arousing way. I felt terrible that the girls had spent time getting fixed up to come meet a payday gringo only to be quickly dismissed with barely a Hello. But hell, I'm not going to waste my vacation with a girl I'm not attracted to. I told cab driver I wouldn't pay if I didn't like them. The girls took off on motorcycles after 3 minutes of awkward silence. I knew motos weren't free and felt awkward. Taxi driver said he gave them 15K. I asked him what he wanted and he said just give him 10K on top of taxi fare. I agree and left empty-handed for the afternoon. Though I do enjoy the hunt, the chase in and of itself.

Thursday night, I didn't like anything at LDV and then on my taxi ride to El Centro my driver tells me PleyClub has some very pretty girls and he'll take me there for 15K round trip. It is too early for Elecktra so I agree. Free entrance at Pleyclub and drinks are 10K and up. This place is closest to the strip clubs we have back in the states in some ways. It is a big square room, bar on one side, small stage in the center, every 20 minutes a girl comes out and does a pole dance for 2-3 songs and strips down to nothing or as much as she is comfortable with (most get completely nude). The best part of this club is the other chicas who are not dancing on stage wander around, sit, drink, talk and fondle the patrons. I had one girls come up and give me a little lap dance, pull her top down and put her breast in my face and kiss my ears. Quite a turn on. There were girls 8-8. 5 and some 7-7. 5s in looks. I prefer younger and innocent look as opposed to girls 25+, a little or a lot hardened looking and too much makeup (too much of that in LDV for my tastes)

Onsite prices at Pleyclub are 170K for 40 minutes although I got some variations of that price higher and lower depending on the chica. Low as 140K and high as 220K. I told them not looking for onsite but I did get Sharon's number for daytime activity Friday. She had a great smile, beautiful long brown hair and was quite uninhibited. In Pleyclub, none of the girls are uptight and worried what will other girls will think of them. I usually ask a girl to give me a sample kiss in the club / bar to get a sense of how much they GFE / sensual they will be in private. History indicates this is a very reliable test, although some shy girls who don't kiss can be good in private. In LDV, girls don't want to be seen kissing in front of others, but in PC, I had several french kiss me, sit in my lap and massage my back. So much friendlier. I left after thoroughly enjoying myself cozying up to too hotties.

After PleyClub, I hit Elecktra on the way back. There I say a beautiful young girl, Mayra. 19, college student. She has a bit of an Asian look but is 100% Colombian. Sweet long legs, nice C-cup natural breasts and sexy smile. We agree upon 2-3 hours for 200K. She declines the kissing test in the club but she takes the kissing test on the taxi ride and scores a B. Back in the room, she is fun, high-energy, dancing, chatting, and has a smoking body. She gets really turned on and comes when I give oral. I like to take my time and go slowly and sensually in bed. She starts alright but finishes up pretty quickly and claims she wants to get home before sun comes up because what will her neighbors think. I was a little disappointed at the quick departure, but at the same time I'm in awe of how in the past 3 days I've just bed a 19yo and a 20yo who were both solid 9s. Totally amazing! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kyle Fox; 1119018].

Thanks to all those who have shared their stories and info. I hope you enjoyed this. [/QUOTE]Great report, Kyle! Also glad to see you share some info in re to hotels in BG, as that is helpful information for others since many guys go the apartment route.

Thanks for sharing your report.

Hey Hill, don't make fun of my tattooed glue headed skanks, they need love to! You are correct in Shrwimmer, last time I was in Colombia I saw him with a Dude with tits, it was 6ft tall and had hands like a lumber jack. I don't know, who am I to pass judgement?

[QUOTE=Hilltoppper; 1119345]Very enjoyable and nicely written report Kyle. I now hope youcum can write one as good as yours, after his return from Cartagena in a couple of weeks. Hopefully he will post some pics along with the report so everyone can see the tattooed skanks he claims are Queens, and I guess they are in his eyes. (smile)

Youcum, make sure you try to hook up with me so we can smoke the poles together, or I mean our cigars, and pour down some drinks together. I told you the other day that the drinks were all on me. Possibly Schwmmrs cheap ass will be around to party with us. Now that is a guy who loves skanks from both sides of the fence.

Happy mongering guys,

The one and only Hilltoppper direct from Bogota! [/QUOTE]

Sup fellas! I'm heading to the carib coast of Colombia for alil over a week in the beg of March.

I'm early 20's in shape good looking american. My plan is to hit up the regular clubs first and if they fall through (no chick that is DTF) then to head over the the p4p spots and try and shore (getting them for free) some chicas. I had great success with this method in Rio at the Balcony Bar.

So from my light reading on this thread it appears the best places for me to go to are LDV, Elektra, and Pleyclub. I'm looking for the best looking young girls.

Is there another place I'm missing that I need to hit up?

Thanks!

Hey all,

I've been reading most of the posts on this thread and am definitely interested in going to Cartagena. This will be my first ever erotic vacation and I will be going alone. A little about myself:

Early 20's Chinese American.

5'2.

Senior in College.

Middle Class.

Limited but not too limited budget.

Broke up with my gf (who happens to be latina) of 2 years about 2 months ago. Hence the craving for this vacation.

Thinking about traveling from March 4th to March 11th.

1. Would you recommend me going alone? In terms of safety?

2. How much would I be looking to spend on housing / dining / and getting laid (hope to fuck at least 2 times a day) in one week?

3. How would the weather and party scene (if any) be like during my time of travel?

I have more questions but I do not want to bombard you with all of them at once. I appreciate the help and hoping to get back on a fucking spree.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1121602]Sup fellas! I'm heading to the carib coast of Colombia for alil over a week in the beg of March.

I'm early 20's in shape good looking american. My plan is to hit up the regular clubs first and if they fall through (no chick that is DTF) then to head over the the p4p spots and try and shore (getting them for free) some chicas. I had great success with this method in Rio at the Balcony Bar.

So from my light reading on this thread it appears the best places for me to go to are LDV, Elektra, and Pleyclub. I'm looking for the best looking young girls.

Is there another place I'm missing that I need to hit up?

Thanks![/QUOTE]The three clubs you mentioned are the places to go for P4P but if you think you are walking out of there with a girl for free you are dreaming I don't care how young, good looking or american you are dude it isn't going to happen.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred;1121602]... I'm early 20's in shape good looking american. My plan is to hit up the regular clubs first and if they fall through (no chick that is DTF) then to head over the the p4p spots and try and shore (getting them for free) some chicas. I had great success with this method in Rio at the Balcony Bar ...[/QUOTE]Well, I'm in my 40's and extremely good looking too and I'm hoping to get some freebies also, these pros don't deserve my dinero.

Hahahaha. Good luck out there Tar Heel!

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1121791]The three clubs you mentioned are the places to go for P4P but if you think you are walking out of there with a girl for free you are dreaming I don't care how young, good looking or american you are dude it isn't going to happen.[/QUOTE]Guys said the same thing in Rio de Janeiro. Not only did I pull for free (multiple times) they cooked and cleaned for me the next morning.

I like my chances.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1121867]Guys said the same thing in Rio de Janeiro. Not only did I pull for free (multiple times) they cooked and cleaned for me the next morning.

I like my chances.[/QUOTE]In the three clubs that you mentioned Brad fucking Pitt couldn't get a freebie, Cartagena isn't Rio. Good luck to you anyway.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1121867]Guys said the same thing in Rio de Janeiro. Not only did I pull for free (multiple times) they cooked and cleaned for me the next morning.

I like my chances.[/QUOTE]Attttta boy!

It happens all the time!

Some of the guys have just been paying for so long that they cannot comprehend getting it for free. Just make sure you do not mislead the chicas and are having them thinking they are going to be making some money. I have a friend who used to be very bad about doing this and what results from it is girls who demand the money upfront. Don't let this be the case with you. In my younger days I had a very, very handsome friend and we routinely would cross the border to play in the brothels of Mexico. I can't tell you how many times he scored for free due to his looks, but this was routine for him anywhere he went. Hell, I used to get laid all over San Antonio, Texas just because I was with him!

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1121867]Guys said the same thing in Rio de Janeiro. Not only did I pull for free (multiple times) they cooked and cleaned for me the next morning.

I like my chances. [/QUOTE]Well I got ya beat amigo.

Not only do they cook and clean for me but they usually leave me a tip on the counter before they leave.

I'm crazy good lookin though :)

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1121867]Guys said the same thing in Rio de Janeiro. Not only did I pull for free (multiple times) they cooked and cleaned for me the next morning.

I like my chances. [/QUOTE]If this is your plan, una "casa de putas" is not the place you should go. This is what Elektra, LDV and Pleyclub basically are. If you go to Macy's hoping to get back home with free fashion items, just because you are a smooth talker and you plan to convince vendors, sorry but your chances are extremely low.
Go to discos where girls are not exclusively working girls, namely the strip of discos in Getsemani (around Mr. Babilla), or many others alike.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1121903]Well I got ya beat amigo.

Not only do they cook and clean for me but they usually leave me a tip on the counter before they leave.

I'm crazy good lookin though. [/QUOTE]Not only "crazy good lookin" but can also tie multiple cherry stems with your tongue at the same time. You got to see the chicks lining up for this guy!

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1121602]I'm early 20's in shape good looking american. My plan is to hit up the regular clubs first and if they fall through (no chick that is DTF) then to head over the the p4p spots and try and shore (getting them for free) some chicas. I had great success with this method in Rio at the Balcony Bar.

So from my light reading on this thread it appears the best places for me to go to are LDV, Elektra, and Pleyclub. I'm looking for the best looking young girls.

Is there another place I'm missing that I need to hit up?

Thanks! [/QUOTE]With your agenda I think you are looking at the wrong places. Puta clubs and casas should be the last place you should go to get free pussy. Just wander around el centro or Boca Grande in the supermarkets, shops, (in the streets) etc. And work your charms on the employees or customers.

You can get freebies in ctg, even old dudes can but if your going for the pros they may prefer the old dude rather than young handsome you. I was going around with a young buck once and he was surprised that I was getting all the play. He just couldn't figure it out.

Also be prepared for the unexpected. You may think you got one for free ( no money is ever mentioned ) and you think she really just likes you .. until you try to get rid of her and she won't go until you "pay up". That's a fun scenario.

It'll take work on your part but you got to go for the normal girls ( typically ). If you go near the pro scenes, be prepared to pay.

[QUOTE=Bologna; 1122245]With your agenda I think you are looking at the wrong places. Puta clubs and casas should be the last place you should go to get free pussy. Just wander around el centro or Boca Grande in the supermarkets, shops, (in the streets) etc. And work your charms on the employees or customers.

You can get freebies in ctg, even old dudes can but if your going for the pros they may prefer the old dude rather than young handsome you. I was going around with a young buck once and he was surprised that I was getting all the play. He just couldn't figure it out.

Also be prepared for the unexpected. You may think you got one for free (no money is ever mentioned) and you think she really just likes you. Until you try to get rid of her and she won't go until you "pay up". That's a fun scenario.

It'll take work on your part but you got to go for the normal girls (typically ). If you go near the pro scenes, be prepared to pay.[/QUOTE]You must have missed by first post. I plan on hitting the normal clubs first and doing daygame (malls, squares, markets, parks ect) for free poon. But we all know NO ONE is going to be able to get a fuck close every night from from regular clubs and daygame. Thats why you have to have a backup plan (puta clubs & casas). I don't expect to pull a grl every night, although if its anything like Rio, than I like my chances ALOT.

Oh and I would tell the chick before I left with her that I wasnt paying for sex. Did this in Rio and the girls were like thats ok, lets go! SweeT! LOL

Anyone here has any information about this girl?

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=104154&d=1224282048[/url]

[QUOTE=CollegePusher; 1121687]Hey all,

I've been reading most of the posts on this thread and am definitely interested in going to Cartagena. This will be my first ever erotic vacation and I will be going alone. A little about myself:

Early 20's Chinese American.

5'2.

Senior in College.

Middle Class.

Limited but not too limited budget.

Broke up with my gf (who happens to be latina) of 2 years about 2 months ago. Hence the craving for this vacation.

Thinking about traveling from March 4th to March 11th.

1. Would you recommend me going alone? In terms of safety?

2. How much would I be looking to spend on housing / dining / and getting laid (hope to fuck at least 2 times a day) in one week?

3. How would the weather and party scene (if any) be like during my time of travel?

I have more questions but I do not want to bombard you with all of them at once. I appreciate the help and hoping to get back on a fucking spree.[/QUOTE]Pusher Bro, I'm a newb to the Columbian forum and recently asked for help from the pros, Pusher, they have better things to do than to help us. They need to take care of the back slapping w / each other and then they are probably screwing the pussy down there. After that they need a siesta, then start all over the next day. Don't expect any help from them even if it is a justifiable question. Most of your questions are not justifiable tho.

I have recently (2 days ago) booked my first trip to So America, Medellin to be exact. I am going to Medellin because ONE guy here told me Medellin is easier for newbs who are interested in P4P. I am interested in P4P (BigTIME) so I am arriving early April and staying at the CB. I am taking no chances w / this special vacation, from the CB I will do serious re con on the P4P stomping grounds. I am also a solo mongerer, I have done a lot of home work so I feel real good about my plan. Regarding your questions.

1. RTFR's I think you will be fine unless your a dummy.

2. RTFR's Excluding hotel, my guess is $200 per day and you will be happy.

3. RTFR's It will probably be hot, and from what I have gathered in my research Columbia is party central.

So Pusher Bro, I know I am not the pro w / the answers but at least I have 5 minutes to try and help out.

You sound like you know how to have fun, RTFR's and you will have even more. Cheers

Anyone have any info for me about renting apartments in Cartagena ans Santa MArta?

Looking to rent for one week in each city.

Looking for something not expensive and good value.

How much should I expect to pay?

[QUOTE=Socker; 1123022]Pusher Bro, I'm a newb to the Columbian forum and recently asked for help from the pros, Pusher, they have better things to do than to help us. They need to take care of the back slapping w / each other and then they are probably screwing the pussy down there. After that they need a siesta, then start all over the next day. Don't expect any help from them even if it is a justifiable question. Most of your questions are not justifiable tho.

I have recently (2 days ago) booked my first trip to So America, Medellin to be exact. I am going to Medellin because ONE guy here told me Medellin is easier for newbs who are interested in P4P. I am interested in P4P (BigTIME) so I am arriving early April and staying at the CB. I am taking no chances w / this special vacation, from the CB I will do serious re con on the P4P stomping grounds. I am also a solo mongerer, I have done a lot of home work so I feel real good about my plan. Regarding your questions.

1. RTFR's I think you will be fine unless your a dummy.

2. RTFR's Excluding hotel, my guess is $200 per day and you will be happy.

3. RTFR's It will probably be hot, and from what I have gathered in my research Columbia is party central.

So Pusher Bro, I know I am not the pro w / the answers but at least I have 5 minutes to try and help out.

You sound like you know how to have fun, RTFR's and you will have even more. Cheers[/QUOTE]College Pusher, you will be better off in Medellin than Cartagena. Medellin is much cheaper and the girls are easier to get, you will have much better time. The weather is better in Medellin also, it is not that hot. Also Medellin has better night life and a lot more choices. If you need help in Medellin, send me a private message and I see what I can do for you.

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Also I'm alittle confused about the beaches. Is one beach mostly working girls and there is another for regular people like it is in Rio? Or is it just one main beach everyone goes to?

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My friend that runs an internet cafe found me an apartment in Marina del Rey building for 90, 000 pesos. Not really thrilled with it. Its kind of dirty looking and beaten up. 2 huge pluses though it has a great balcony with a hamock and a view of the Laguito and I have wifi so I can make and receive us calls at no charge! I will probably change it on Friday.

Yesterday I hooked up with a girl I met on Cupid. Always a little too affectionate online made me assume she is a possilbe working girl. We met yesterday during the day. She was dressed more or less the part, but could be just a young girl trying to look sexy.

After a late lunch with her and a walk we went back to the aparment where we went at it for a few hours. No non pro 20 year old should know how to everything sexually she did. She was amazing!

She left a few hours later professing love etc. No talk of money. I know she has a normal job and is in some type of school. Very curious to see how this plays out. I'm already worried I may have a stage 5 clingler on my hands!

Popped into LDV around 11:30 saw some pretty good new talent. A couple girls stood out. But I was much too tired to partkae in anything.

Off to the beach. Anyone intown stop by and visit. I'm mid 30s mediterranean american looking guy.

[QUOTE=Havahopeful; 1123923]My friend that runs an internet cafe found me an apartment in Marina del Rey building for 90, 000 pesos. Not really thrilled with it. Its kind of dirty looking and beaten up. 2 huge pluses though it has a great balcony with a hamock and a view of the Laguito and I have wifi so I can make and receive us calls at no charge! I will probably change it on Friday.

Yesterday I hooked up with a girl I met on Cupid. Always a little too affectionate online made me assume she is a possilbe working girl. We met yesterday during the day. She was dressed more or less the part, but could be just a young girl trying to look sexy.

After a late lunch with her and a walk we went back to the aparment where we went at it for a few hours. No non pro 20 year old should know how to everything sexually she did. She was amazing!

She left a few hours later professing love etc. No talk of money. I know she has a normal job and is in some type of school. Very curious to see how this plays out. I'm already worried I may have a stage 5 clingler on my hands!

Popped into LDV around 11:30 saw some pretty good new talent. A couple girls stood out. But I was much too tired to partkae in anything.

Off to the beach. Anyone intown stop by and visit. I'm mid 30s mediterranean american looking guy. [/QUOTE]Hey man it is possible she likes you and is sick of the local guys. If you know she has a real job and also goes to school that is a good sign. No matter what you being leary is the path you have to take. Good luck and keep us posted.

[QUOTE=Havahopeful; 1123923]My friend that runs an internet cafe found me an apartment in Marina del Rey building for 90, 000 pesos. Not really thrilled with it. Its kind of dirty looking and beaten up. 2 huge pluses though it has a great balcony with a hamock and a view of the Laguito and I have wifi so I can make and receive us calls at no charge! I will probably change it on Friday.

Yesterday I hooked up with a girl I met on Cupid. Always a little too affectionate online made me assume she is a possilbe working girl. We met yesterday during the day. She was dressed more or less the part, but could be just a young girl trying to look sexy.

After a late lunch with her and a walk we went back to the aparment where we went at it for a few hours. No non pro 20 year old should know how to everything sexually she did. She was amazing!

She left a few hours later professing love etc. No talk of money. I know she has a normal job and is in some type of school. Very curious to see how this plays out. I'm already worried I may have a stage 5 clingler on my hands!

Popped into LDV around 11:30 saw some pretty good new talent. A couple girls stood out. But I was much too tired to partkae in anything.

Off to the beach. Anyone intown stop by and visit. I'm mid 30s mediterranean american looking guy. [/QUOTE]Sup man. I just made a profile on Cupid in preparation for my trip to Cartagena. I'm curious, which chick on there did you link up with?

I will be there in couple weeks.

Any updates on Playa Hollywood is the water level going down yet? Thanks for recent pic.

That too and is there any of you know for fact what the chica policy is for Mirador del Laguito by day? And night?

Or you have to pay guards off at night now?

Thanks in advance 8

[QUOTE=Dw1987; 1124247]I will be there in couple weeks.

Any updates on Playa Hollywood is the water level going down yet? Thanks for recent pic.

That too and is there any of you know for fact what the chica policy is for Mirador del Laguito by day? And night?

Or you have to pay guards off at night now?

Thanks in advance 8[/QUOTE]Reference Mirador Del Laguito, I had a buddy who stayed there less than a month ago and he told the guard refused a bribe and would not let him take the 2 girls he had picked up at LDV to his room. He claims the guard told him they have a camera in the lobby area and he is not allowed to let any of the guests, who do not own a unit in the building, take more than one girl at a time to their rooms. He claims the guard turned down $50. 00 US to let them both in. I recently asked another friend about this new policy at Mirador and he told me Mery is even telling her customers that one girl per guest is the rule in that building. If this is true, I will never stay there. Not that I do a lot of doubles or triples, but I at least want the option should I decide to do it. Anyone else have any idea why they would start such a stupid policy which will discourage some of us from staying there?

What a fantastic town, Cartagena. First, thanks to all the posters who clued me in. Now here's my report.

My flights were screwed up and I arrived around 10:00 PM. The airport is small and newish. No problem. I had gotten pesos from an ATM on a layover in Medellin airport so I hopped a cab, agreeing the amount first (a little extra because of my bags. Fine).

As some veterans recommend, I stayed in a hotel in the old city, Centro Hotel. The room was about 80 USD a night (I'll leave more info in the lodging section of the forum). I recommend staying in the historic part of town. It's beautiful, interesting during the day, and in the middle of things at night.

It just took me a couple calls after searching the internet for a hotel that would allow guests. The hotel desk woman was a little shy but she said no problem, you can have a girl to your room. I took her name, and called back the day before my arrival to confirm my reservation, which they had lost. Anyway checking in I ask the clerk one more time about girls. He says I have to pay for an extra person in the room. WTF! I say I spoke with Tatiana on the phone."Well if you cleared it with Tatiana. No problem." Boy that was easy, but I was glad I knew her name. I continued to be nervous about bringing girls in the whole trip but never ran into any problem. It definitely wasn't a monger hotel, and I was moderately discreet.

By the way, I speak moderately good Spanish. It might be a little harder in Cartagena speaking only English. Obviously you can get what you want, but little glitches may be more irritating to work out.

So I set out on foot to check out Tu Candela, and the two pro spots, Queens and Isis. Tu Candela was rockin', great crowd and music, with a couple working girls with guys. (Isn't it funny how you can spot them immediately while non-mongers are oblivious? It's like we have special glasses)

Both Queens and Isis were boring, but there was a tall, dark local lurking outside of Isis that chatted me up and clued me in to the salida charge for a girl from either of those places (I don't remember the amount but it was steep).

So it's now after midnight and with nothing on offer I take a walk through the clock tower gate, down the long esplanade, and ran into Carmen. She was thin, about 20, and dressed in a short, tight skirt and heels. We chatted and walked while she ate some mango from a street cart. The coastal girls are dark, and less sophisticated (but still dressed pretty fucking hot). She was sweet.

I offered her 100, 000 (about 50 bucks) and she said ok fast enough that I knew I was overpaying. She later told me that if I asked her out again she'd take 70, 000, which probably tells you what the right price was. By the way, I always ask before talking money,"Te gusta besar?" (do you like to kiss) and "Por la boca sin condon?" (BBBJ). A less-than-enthusiastic response is usually a deal killer.

Carmen was plenty enthusiastic. It may have helped that I made her come first, but I think she just enjoys her work. I certainly did. She stayed a couple hours and would have stayed as long as I wanted.

I ran into Carmen every night of my stay, usually in the plaza between the clock gate and the Donde Fidel beer garden. We would have a nice chat, but by then I had moved on to the next.

guys,

i'll be making my 5th trip to medellin in march and was looking at spending a few days at the end of my trip in one of the other colombian cities.

looking for some input on which ones might offer a better experience. cartagena, bogota or cali?

i like the idea of ldv in cartagena with freelancers hanging out & the beach. the cali thread gave me the impression p4p would be a little cheaper, but some reviewers stated of a lot of the girls being thicker & less attractive. the bogota thread seemed to be a lot of peeps unhappy with the clubs & drink prices & prices for p4p, although a lot of the girls were reported as being stunners, just asking us type prices.

thanks

[QUOTE=Pussyluver;1124776]Reference Mirador Del Laguito, I had a buddy who stayed there less than a month ago and he told the guard refused a bribe and would not let him take the 2 girls he had picked up at LDV to his room. He claims the guard told him they have a camera in the lobby area and he is not allowed to let any of the guests, who do not own a unit in the building, take more than one girl at a time to their rooms. He claims the guard turned down $50. 00 US to let them both in. I recently asked another friend about this new policy at Mirador and he told me Mery is even telling her customers that one girl per guest is the rule in that building. If this is true, I will never stay there. Not that I do a lot of doubles or triples, but I at least want the option should I decide to do it. Anyone else have any idea why they would start such a stupid policy which will discourage some of us from staying there?[/QUOTE]Very simply, the owners of the apartments who actually live on the premises do not want the place to be over run with party people, noise, and theft problems. They want the place to be known as a family type of building. This comes directly from a couple permanent residents of the building that I know very well.

[QUOTE=Ho Whisperer;1124859]I'll be making my 5th trip to Medellin in March and was looking at spending a few days at the end of my trip in one of the other colombian cities. Looking for some input on which ones might offer a better experience. Cartagena, Bogota or Cali?[/QUOTE]If you don't speak fairly good spanish, I would skip Cali and Bogota. Cartagena is a tourist town, organized around separating visitors from their money in return for providing fun activities. Not speaking Spanish is no problem there.

In Cali, the casa Clininca Doctor Amor has lots of beautiful girls of all sizes and shapes, prices starting at 35k pesos for 30 minutes. And you can stay next door at Apt Hotel Del Rio with a gym and pool. And the neighborhood is not too bad, close to everything in Cali.

In Bogota the inexpensive casas are all in sketchy neighborhoods. If you stick to the safer north part of the city, everything is much more costly, including girls.

-zing

[QUOTE=Pussyluver;1124776]Anyone else have any idea why they would start such a stupid policy which will discourage some of us from staying there?[/QUOTE]It's called a Condominium Association. With rules. Made by the unit owners. Just like Condo Associations everywhere in the world. Trying to 'bribe' a 'guy' working the door is not the class move, Pussylover. Anywhere. Find somewhere you can love all the pussy you want. At the same time. And report back.

[QUOTE=Zing23; 1124947]If you don't speak fairly good spanish, I would skip Cali and Bogota. Cartagena is a tourist town, organized around separating visitors from their money in return for providing fun activities. Not speaking Spanish is no problem there.

In Cali, the casa Clininca Doctor Amor has lots of beautiful girls of all sizes and shapes, prices starting at 35k pesos for 30 minutes. And you can stay next door at Apt Hotel Del Rio with a gym and pool. And the neighborhood is not too bad, close to everything in Cali.

In Bogota the inexpensive casas are all in sketchy neighborhoods. If you stick to the safer north part of the city, everything is much more costly, including girls.

-zing[/QUOTE]Thanks Z.

I'm by no means fluent in spanish. But I know enough to get me through my previous solo / accompanied trips to Medellin, Lima, Peru & DR. I can get around town, and make a little small talk with the chicas. The problem is if they mistake me for being fluent and fire off rapid spanish. Then I'm lost until they slow down and repeat.

I'm reading thru all 3 threads at once 4 info.

I get the idea Cartagena is more bars / discos w / freelancers (which I prefer) as opposed to casas.

With Cali being more casas.

Do you know anything about the "Castle Cali"? Found a post from '09 saying this place is like the MDE mansion, as to helping setup guests with girls. The link for it just describes random services offered, not like a hotel website. I will post this in the Cali thread also to try and find out more, as it may belong there.

It was Thursday night and by midnight there was still nothing going on at Queens or Isis. Perhaps there were a dozen girls and handful of guys, but the energy was just very slow. This was the case for these two clubs my whole trip.

Time to head to LDV. It was very easy to get to, about 10 minutes taxi from the old city. You walk up steps from where the taxis wait on the street and there is a courtyard with a couple bars, including LDV. There were about 15 girls hanging out outside and then inside about 25 more, outnumbering the guys three or four-to-one.

I chatted up this light-skinned 19 year old from Medellin. She was thin and showing a lot of skin, tiny shorts unbuttoned and a bare midriff. Unfortunately she only did CBJ; her attitude overall was uptight in fact, so I moved on. There was a very friendly girl in a red dress, also from Medellin, a little curvier and older (25 I think) than is my usual, but I liked her smile. And I think she let me try out a kiss. Somehow I got the impression that she would be under a little time pressure to return to a baby at home, so, well let me see who else is interesting.

I ended up with a pretty girl from Cali, about 21 and thin. She wanted 200, 000 but I told her 150, 000 was the standard rate and when she thought I might move on she said fine.

She was great. Her mouth was wonderful and she loved oral both ways. (It's great when you come up for a breadth and she pushes your head back down) No rush to leave either.

I took her cell and made a date for the next evening. We had a drink and went back to the hotel for another great session. She insisted on 150, 000 again. It was before 11 o'clock so it should be less, but I didn't press it.

My plan for the rest of the night was to collect phone numbers for the following day. I ended up at Elektra which was really hopping. There were probably 30 girls and almost as many guys, but lots of dancing and partying, unlike LDV. Really great energy.

I woke up the next morning with a bunch of phone numbers, none of whom I could remember, so I knew it was time to head to the beach.

Hollywood Beach is not that nice. It's crowded, rocky, and worst of all are the annoying guys trying to hook you up. One followed me around despite my objections. I did everything but push him. He did point out the group of girls working the beach, four cuties sitting with a couple guys.

I was walking away from him when I ran into Annie. She was in a tight knit beach dress, showing off her curves, walking up to use the bathroom.

"Hola." Smile.

"Hola." Smile.

Well aren't you nice. Can I buy you a drink?

We sat in a gated part of the beach where the annoying guy couldn't follow us. She flirted, and I don't think that she knew that I knew, that is until I asked her if she liked to make love, and to do specific things, actually. She wanted 200, 000, then 150, 000, but it was late afternoon and she settled for 100, 000.

Then she did something to my finger in her mouth that took my breadth away. This girl was the best I've ever had. Look for her. She's 31, blondish with freckles, from Bogata. She has a scare on her neck from a car accident and a big tattoo beneath her navel.

Absolutely fantastic in bed. I thought the girl from Cali was a nympho. Annie asked to get on top,"just for a minute," and promptly came twice more. I had to cover her mouth because it was quiet in the hotel at that hour.

I asked her to come back the next morning for a session before heading to the airport. This time she showed up in a white cotton dress and heels. Two hours of unhurried romp. I truly hated to leave. And I've been thinking of my next trip to Colombia since.

I'm looking at spending 4 nights in Cartagena, following my 10 day stay in Medellin in March.

What's my best option for moderate price, A / C, decent room & chica friendly.

Hotel or Apartment thru Juan or Mery (not a lot of recent info on hotels in the hotel thread)

By the forum, it looks like El Laguito or Boca Grande is the prime area I need to stay in?

How far are some of the bars and discos that are located in El Centro (Elektra, Mister Babilla, Babar, etc.) from Laguito or Boca Grande?

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1125925]I see I must have wasted my time sending you a bible of information on Cartagena, but it is alright, as I quit sharing information along time ago, but you just happened to be an exception to my rule, so I look at it as a wake up call for me again, to not waste my valuable time or knowledge, as everything you are looking for was in what I sent you.[/QUOTE]Dude. The info you sent me was great and much appreciated. I've reread it many times. I've crossreferenced the names of bars & other spots you mentioned with the addresses I got from "World traveler 69" Cartagena list and put them into a google map. Just some of the locations that resulted in google maps looked a little off. Hence the inquiry as to how far away some of these spots should be! Your info didn't have addresses. So I'm just covering my bases.

& there's just no recent info on hotels in the hotel thread. A couple of posts in 2010 and the rest is '09 & '08.

No disrespect. I'm just trying to make sure I'm prepared

[QUOTE=Ho Whisperer; 1125953]Dude. The info you sent me was great and much appreciated. I've reread it many times. I've crossreferenced the names of bars & other spots you mentioned with the addresses I got from "World traveler 69" Cartagena list and put them into a google map. Just some of the locations that resulted in google maps looked a little off. Hence the inquiry as to how far away some of these spots should be! Your info didn't have addresses. So I'm just covering my bases.

& there's just no recent info on hotels in the hotel thread. A couple of posts in 2010 and the rest is '09 & '08.

No disrespect. I'm just trying to make sure I'm prepared[/QUOTE]I'm actually looking for info on the exact same thing. Looking for a decent chica friendly hotel centrally located near the old city and the nighlife.

Can't decide whether or not to try and look for someone that will rent me an apartment for a week. This will run me about 50 bucks a day imo. Or just find a decent hotel for say 30 bucks a night.

[QUOTE=Ho Whisperer; 1125907]I'm looking at spending 4 nights in Cartagena, following my 10 day stay in Medellin in March.

What's my best option for moderate price, A / C, decent room & chica friendly.

Hotel or Apartment thru Juan or Mery (not a lot of recent info on hotels in the hotel thread)

By the forum, it looks like El Laguito or Boca Grande is the prime area I need to stay in?

How far are some of the bars and discos that are located in El Centro (Elektra, Mister Babilla, Babar, etc.) from Laguito or Boca Grande? [/QUOTE]Hey amigo, I just got forwarded the same info that Black Hawk sent to you, and you've got more info there than probably anyone else on this board could add to.

Why continue to ask questions of where to stay in Cartagena when the Black Hawk email sums up EVERYTHING including GREAT info of exactly where to stay and find chicas.

What a gift he sent you, and I don't think you realize it.

I know you're excited about your first visit but wow, you got lucky with him deciding to help you out like that.

I've been to Cartagena many times and I still saved his 'guide'/info for my next visit to Cartagena and for my first visit to Santa Marta, invaluable.

Buen Viaje!

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1126453]Hey amigo, I just got forwarded the same info that Black Hawk sent to you, and you've got more info there than probably anyone else on this board could add to.

Why continue to ask questions of where to stay in Cartagena when the Black Hawk email sums up EVERYTHING including GREAT info of exactly where to stay and find chicas.

What a gift he sent you, and I don't think you realize it.

I know you're excited about your first visit but wow, you got lucky with him deciding to help you out like that.

I've been to Cartagena many times and I still saved his 'guide'/info for my next visit to Cartagena and for my first visit to Santa Marta, invaluable.

Buen Viaje![/QUOTE]Could you help me out with some hotels priced around 30 bucks that are chica friendly in Cartagena and Santa Marta. Ill be there for 2 weeks in April.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1126453]Hey amigo, I just got forwarded the same info that Black Hawk sent to you, and you've got more info there than probably anyone else on this board could add to.

Why continue to ask questions of where to stay in Cartagena when the Black Hawk email sums up EVERYTHING including GREAT info of exactly where to stay and find chicas.

What a gift he sent you, and I don't think you realize it.

I know you're excited about your first visit but wow, you got lucky with him deciding to help you out like that.

I've been to Cartagena many times and I still saved his 'guide'/info for my next visit to Cartagena and for my first visit to Santa Marta, invaluable.

Buen Viaje! [/QUOTE]I made a few posts on the CTG board a few years ago as a Newbe to that area and I got the same treatment from Urban Wildlife. He bombarded me with info that made my trip there point and click. Later I sent him a little info on areas that I was familar with. That how this game should work.

Hey guys I m going to Cartagena for the first time in a few weeks. I already have an apt there and I have read all the reports for the last year. But you guys got me intrigued with Black Hawk69 list can anyone forward me the list? I have read a lot of his post but haven't seen any large list like is been mention here.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1126453]Hey amigo, I just got forwarded the same info that Black Hawk sent to you, and you've got more info there than probably anyone else on this board could add to.

Why continue to ask questions of where to stay in Cartagena when the Black Hawk email sums up EVERYTHING including GREAT info of exactly where to stay and find chicas.

What a gift he sent you, and I don't think you realize it.

I know you're excited about your first visit but wow, you got lucky with him deciding to help you out like that.

I've been to Cartagena many times and I still saved his 'guide'/info for my next visit to Cartagena and for my first visit to Santa Marta, invaluable.

Buen Viaje! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1126453]Hey amigo, I just got forwarded the same info that Black Hawk sent to you, and you've got more info there than probably anyone else on this board could add to......[/QUOTE]Absolutely, I received some very detailed and thorough info that helped sway my decision to check out Cartagena as opposed to Cali this trip. This list will be an invaluable asset for my trip to Cartagena.

Just bought my plane ticket last night to include Cartagena.

Much Respect to Black Hawk for going out of his way to set me up with some good intel!

[QUOTE=Ho Whisperer; 1125907]I'm looking at spending 4 nights in Cartagena, following my 10 day stay in Medellin in March.

What's my best option for moderate price, A /C, decent room & chica friendly.

Hotel or Apartment thru Juan or Mery (not a lot of recent info on hotels in the hotel thread)

By the forum, it looks like El Laguito or Boca Grande is the prime area I need to stay in?

How far are some of the bars and discos that are located in El Centro (Elektra, Mister Babilla, Babar, etc.) from Laguito or Boca Grande? [/QUOTE]Others may disagree, but IMO the best value is still to rent an apt from either Juan or Mery when it comes to things like good a / see, decent place with amenities, chica friendly and trustworthiness. If you rent from either of them, you'll be staying in El Laguito, which is one of the zones in CTG that you will most likely feel comfortable in if this is your first time to the city. If you're looking to save a few bucks, see if there is a studio or one bedroom available, or share the cost of a two bedroom with a fellow monger.

If you choose to stay in Boca Grande, you will find it more commercialized (shops, restuarants, banks, etc.) and more populated. Boca Grande is another area where you will most likely feel comfortable.

The best way I can answer "how far" is either El Centro or the Old City is to say between the equivalent of $3 to $4 USD each way from or to Laguito. Given the time of night that you would be traveling to a disco, you'll want to hail a taxi.

One thing you can do to gather additional info is to read back through this thread from say 2007 forward. IMO things really haven't changed all that much. Have some prices for things in restuarants, taxis, etc, gone up a little? Sure, but not really that much in local currency the last 3 years. Some guys are going to say prices have gone up more and they'll say especially for the chicas, but if you really spend some time reading posts on this thread from 2007 forward you'll see that they haven't really gone up in local currency as much as some may lead you to believe. You can really get a feel for CTG by spending a hour or so each night reading the various posts until you're up to the current date.

If you go back further than 2007 or so, especially back to the first couple of years of Uribe's first term, then yeah, IMO you'll notice more significant or substantial change.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1126967]Others may disagree, but IMO the best value is still to rent an apt from either Juan or Mery when it comes to things like good a / see, decent place with amenities, chica friendly and trustworthiness. If you rent from either of them, you'll be staying in El Laguito, which is one of the zones in CTG that you will most likely feel comfortable in if this is your first time to the city. If you're looking to save a few bucks, see if there is a studio or one bedroom available, or share the cost of a two bedroom with a fellow monger.

If you choose to stay in Boca Grande, you will find it more commercialized (shops, restuarants, banks, etc.) and more populated. Boca Grande is another area where you will most likely feel comfortable.

The best way I can answer "how far" is either El Centro or the Old City is to say between the equivalent of $3 to $4 USD each way from or to Laguito. Given the time of night that you would be traveling to a disco, you'll want to hail a taxi.

One thing you can do to gather additional info is to read back through this thread from say 2007 forward. IMO things really haven't changed all that much. Have some prices for things in restuarants, taxis, etc, gone up a little? Sure, but not really that much in local currency the last 3 years. Some guys are going to say prices have gone up more and they'll say especially for the chicas, but if you really spend some time reading posts on this thread from 2007 forward you'll see that they haven't really gone up in local currency as much as some may lead you to believe. You can really get a feel for CTG by spending a hour or so each night reading the various posts until you're up to the current date.

If you go back further than 2007 or so, especially back to the first couple of years of Uribe's first term, then yeah, IMO you'll notice more significant or substantial change.[/QUOTE]isn't the apts from juan and mery kinda more on the expensive side?

I think a good deal for an apt rental for a week is like 300-400 (40-60 a night)

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1126999]isn't the apts from juan and mery kinda more on the expensive side?

I think a good deal for an apt rental for a week is like 300-400 (40-60 a night)[/QUOTE]I am about to rent an apt from Juan for $75. 00 / night. It's more than I wanted to spend, but the apt is really nice. Ocean front, terrace, washer and dryer. There's a lot of down time in CTG. The afternoons are brutally hot. And it's nice to have a place to chill. And I think women are more likely to hang out in a apt.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1126999]isn't the apts from juan and mery kinda more on the expensive side?

I think a good deal for an apt rental for a week is like 300-400 (40-60 a night) [/QUOTE]Tar Heel, in trying to answer your question about the apts from Juan and / or Mery being more on the expensive side, I'd first have to respond that it's all relative and then ask you expensive for whom?

Are those particular apts located in El Laguito expensive for the average working Colombian family? Yes. Are those apts located in a Strata 6 neighborhood in Colombia? Yes. Are those apts a little expensive for the typical starving college student from the States who isn't a trust fund baby? Yes. Are those apts expensive for the typical 30-60 year old middle-class and upward guy from the States (or Canada, the UK, Germany, etc.) who is used to paying anywhere from $80-$250 a night for a comparatively small hotel room if he were to go on a vacation in his home country (especially to a warm weather spot near a large body of water when it's cold where he lives)? No.

So in a nutshell, I guess the answer to your question will differ based on who it is directed toward. I'd say that the majority of the guys on this forum who typically rent from either Juan or Mery are guys who fall within or near that fourth example I gave above. For them, to pay $70-$120 a night for an apt with all the modern conveniences, including cold air conditioning, hot water, a comfortable mattress, a fully equipped kitchen with fridge, coffee maker, eating and drinking utensils, a decent stereo that accomodates their iPod, a TV in the main room and bedrooms, a DVD player to view a movie (pg or x) with a favorita, a balcony overlooking the sea or lagoon, a combination safe to secure certain items, washer / dryer, an iron and ironing board, and the option to have inexpensive maid service or to be left alone, well, I think that's enough and the picture becomes quite clear that those guys profiled as group 4 above come to a resounding conclusion that the apts aren't relatively expensive for them.

Taking my own self back a few decades ago, would my initial reaction been similiar to yours? Well considering that when I was a 19-year old college student from a working class family I paid $40 for a week to stay in a dorm type room in Negril, Jamaica with the following: the mattress was about 4 inches thick and made of foam; the beds were narrow and short; there were a total of 6 to 8 beds in the room so that meant your sleeping (and bangin') quarters were with others, including strangers; there was no air conditioning; there was no indoor shower, but the place was upscale for that time and location as the owner did have a block of ice with pic that he'd share with you when he was around; so yeah, at that stage in life the apts from Juan or Mery would have been more toward the expensive side for me and out-of-my range.

With all that being said, let's consider the range of $40 to $60 a night that you mentioned. If I could get an apt with the amenities I mentioned above for say $70 to $80 a night and then go to the supermarket a buy a week's worth of groceries (fruits, loaf of bread, lunch meat, veggies, eggs, etc.) so that I saved $5 to $15 a day compared to eating 3 meals a day at a restuarant, wouldn't I probably end-up only spending a little more than the guy who got a place (most likely small hotel room) for $40 to $60? Plus I got to sleep and bang in cold air conditioning, shower and shave with hot water in the morning, relax with a sexy chica while listening to tunes ran through a stereo systems from my iPod, enjoy a home-cooked meal cooked by a favorita who then later wants to imitate the porn star positions she witnessed while watching a DVD with me, and wake-up on a comfortable mattress without a crick in my neck. I could elaborate more, but I hope I've listed enough of the advantages that a guy might consider that a great deal for $10 to $20 more a night.

Oh by the way, if $60 or so is within your range or budget for this trip, you may want to contact Mery and ask her about the price and availability of a studio apt, or contact Juan and ask him how much for a one-bedroom during your timeframe. You might just find that you can get something with modern conveniences for just a little more and then make-up the extra cost by saving on your daily food bill and having a big jug of cold water in your fridge. Plus, you'll be able to impress the chicas with your freshly pressed clothes that you ironed before you went out, LOL.

One last thing to note, one of the other advantages you get from renting from Juan or Mery is that you'll be dealing with a person who can communicate to you in English (if that is a plus for you) , and more importantly is someone with honor and trustworthiness who comes in quite handy should you run into a minor problem or have say a medical emergency or something. Lastly, you benefit from knowing that you are renting from a person who comes recommended by many guys from this forum who have travelled before you so that you don't have to stress worrying about all the details or what could go wrong when dealing with a less reputable outfit or person.

Have an enjoyable, safe and memorable (in a positive sense) trip.

HT

[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1127172]Tar Heel, in trying to answer your question about the apts from Juan and / or Mery being more on the expensive side, I'd first have to respond that it's all relative and then ask you expensive for whom?

Are those particular apts located in El Laguito expensive for the average working Colombian family? Yes. Are those apts located in a Strata 6 neighborhood in Colombia? Yes. Are those apts a little expensive for the typical starving college student from the States who isn't a trust fund baby? Yes. Are those apts expensive for the typical 30-60 year old middle-class and upward guy from the States (or Canada, the UK, Germany, etc.) who is used to paying anywhere from $80-$250 a night for a comparatively small hotel room if he were to go on a vacation in his home country (especially to a warm weather spot near a large body of water when it's cold where he lives)? No.

So in a nutshell, I guess the answer to your question will differ based on who it is directed toward. I'd say that the majority of the guys on this forum who typically rent from either Juan or Mery are guys who fall within or near that fourth example I gave above. For them, to pay $70-$120 a night for an apt with all the modern conveniences, including cold air conditioning, hot water, a comfortable mattress, a fully equipped kitchen with fridge, coffee maker, eating and drinking utensils, a decent stereo that accomodates their iPod, a TV in the main room and bedrooms, a DVD player to view a movie (pg or x) with a favorita, a balcony overlooking the sea or lagoon, a combination safe to secure certain items, washer / dryer, an iron and ironing board, and the option to have inexpensive maid service or to be left alone, well, I think that's enough and the picture becomes quite clear that those guys profiled as group 4 above come to a resounding conclusion that the apts aren't relatively expensive for them.

Taking my own self back a few decades ago, would my initial reaction been similiar to yours? Well considering that when I was a 19-year old college student from a working class family I paid $40 for a week to stay in a dorm type room in Negril, Jamaica with the following: the mattress was about 4 inches thick and made of foam; the beds were narrow and short; there were a total of 6 to 8 beds in the room so that meant your sleeping (and bangin') quarters were with others, including strangers; there was no air conditioning; there was no indoor shower, but the place was upscale for that time and location as the owner did have a block of ice with pic that he'd share with you when he was around; so yeah, at that stage in life the apts from Juan or Mery would have been more toward the expensive side for me and out-of-my range.

With all that being said, let's consider the range of $40 to $60 a night that you mentioned. If I could get an apt with the amenities I mentioned above for say $70 to $80 a night and then go to the supermarket a buy a week's worth of groceries (fruits, loaf of bread, lunch meat, veggies, eggs, etc.) so that I saved $5 to $15 a day compared to eating 3 meals a day at a restuarant, wouldn't I probably end-up only spending a little more than the guy who got a place (most likely small hotel room) for $40 to $60? Plus I got to sleep and bang in cold air conditioning, shower and shave with hot water in the morning, relax with a sexy chica while listening to tunes ran through a stereo systems from my iPod, enjoy a home-cooked meal cooked by a favorita who then later wants to imitate the porn star positions she witnessed while watching a DVD with me, and wake-up on a comfortable mattress without a crick in my neck. I could elaborate more, but I hope I've listed enough of the advantages that a guy might consider that a great deal for $10 to $20 more a night.

Oh by the way, if $60 or so is within your range or budget for this trip, you may want to contact Mery and ask her about the price and availability of a studio apt, or contact Juan and ask him how much for a one-bedroom during your timeframe. You might just find that you can get something with modern conveniences for just a little more and then make-up the extra cost by saving on your daily food bill and having a big jug of cold water in your fridge. Plus, you'll be able to impress the chicas with your freshly pressed clothes that you ironed before you went out, LOL.

One last thing to note, one of the other advantages you get from renting from Juan or Mery is that you'll be dealing with a person who can communicate to you in English (if that is a plus for you) , and more importantly is someone with honor and trustworthiness who comes in quite handy should you run into a minor problem or have say a medical emergency or something. Lastly, you benefit from knowing that you are renting from a person who comes recommended by many guys from this forum who have travelled before you so that you don't have to stress worrying about all the details or what could go wrong when dealing with a less reputable outfit or person.

Have an enjoyable, safe and memorable (in a positive sense) trip.

HT[/QUOTE]You are correct, I should have clarified. I only plan on spending 1000 excluding airfair for 2 weeks. So I can only really drop 500 on lodging total. I could go over as ill have my credit cards if I must use them.

I don't really need hot water if its blazing hot in Cartagena. I just need a bed and a / see or a really good fan. I'm hopping to find something decent for around 30 a night.

If your budget is low for Hotel I would stay in El Centro. Right by Bannanas and Plaza Estudiante.

Hotel Las Vegas and Hotel Porvenir, Hotel El Viajero don't ask me prices it was 2 years ago but was very cheap, you could stay there one night and look around for another nearby if you don't like it.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1127172]. Are those apts expensive for the typical 30-60 year old middle-class and upward guy from the States (or Canada, the UK, Germany, etc.) who is used to paying anywhere from $80-$250 a night for a comparatively small hotel room if he were to go on a vacation in his home country (especially to a warm weather spot near a large body of water when it's cold where he lives)? No.

HT[/QUOTE]Hilltopper that's right on the money. I get your point. This year I went to my regular apartment in laguito. A chica friendly one and it turns out she's been suffering from a verdadera plaga thats the owners words. She also said something about getting a new bed its got one hell of a worn out mattress, anyway $60 a night is what I pay her and no one makes me pay a fee for my chica and its a 4 minute walk from dolce vita and it's 1000 times more comfortable than the casa particular I had to use in Cuba where I had 2 be quiet. I crank the stereo now, and the plaga was cockroaches but I think I'm clear none of them came home with me.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1127172]Tar Heel, in trying to answer your question about the apts from Juan and / or Mery being more on the expensive side.

To pay $70-$120 a night for an apt with all the modern conveniences, including cold air conditioning, hot water, a comfortable mattress, a fully equipped kitchen with fridge, coffee maker, eating and drinking utensils, a decent stereo that accomodates their iPod, a TV in the main room and bedrooms, a DVD player to view a movie (pg or x) with a favorita, a balcony overlooking the sea or lagoon, a combination safe to secure certain items, washer / dryer, an iron and ironing board, and the option to have inexpensive maid service or to be left alone, well, I think that's enough and the picture becomes quite clear that those guys profiled as group 4 above come to a resounding conclusion that the apts aren't relatively expensive for them. HT[/QUOTE]I just booked an apartment thru Juan in Laguito for $75 / nt for my stay in March following some advice found on here. Which for me, is a good deal. I'm only down for 5 nts. So in the scheme of things, an extra $10-$20 a night for a place like Hilltopper described suits me better than a cheaper hotel. I'm on vacation and like to be comfortable, and an apartment provides me the oppurtunity to spread out and hang with a chica or 2 if I decide to, in a nice place on the beach without being confined to just a bed and 4 walls in a hotel. IMHO

I usually rent an apartment with some friends when I'm in Peru, and it's always served us well for hanging out and partying at our place.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1126999]isn't the apts from juan and mery kinda more on the expensive side?

I think a good deal for an apt rental for a week is like 300-400 (40-60 a night) [/QUOTE]Tar Heel Bred. I had sent off emails to Mery and Juan Tuesday inquiring about apartments for my dates in March.

Mery had a 1bdr-$70US, & 2bdr-$100US.

Juan had 1bdr-$65US, & a few 2bdr-$75US (1person) David was booked.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1127235]You are correct, I should have clarified. I only plan on spending 1000 excluding airfair for 2 weeks. So I can only really drop 500 on lodging total. I could go over as ill have my credit cards if I must use them.

I don't really need hot water if its blazing hot in Cartagena. I just need a bed and a / see or a really good fan. I'm hopping to find something decent for around 30 a night. [/QUOTE]Tar.

This was pulled from another members post regarding some cheaper accommodations in Cartagena. Also another member had recommended "Hotel Playa" at $40 / nt in Boca Grande. Might be what your looking for.

[QUOTE=Kyle Fox; 1119008]I spent 6 days in Bocagrande in early December. Here's my report.

I stayed at bargain hotel first 2 night, Hotel Crisor on Cra 3. It is only 42K per night and no chica charge if she is there less than 3 hours. Night security guard will try to charge you but just remind him you know the policy. Run is small and basic but it has A / C, wireless internet and small TV (though mine didn't work so well). No hot water if that's important to you.

The last 4 nights I stayed at Hotel Bocagrande on Cra 2, the main strip with all the shopping stores. The gave me a multiple night discount for 4 nights and paying in advance. 112K for 1 person or 153K for 2 people (no hassles regardless if your chicas changed regularly). This room was larger, modern flat screen TV, balcony out back, newer furniture, A / C, wireless Internet, but again no hot water. Place also has decent restaurant onsite.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1127235]You are correct, I should have clarified. I only plan on spending 1000 excluding airfair for 2 weeks. So I can only really drop 500 on lodging total. I could go over as ill have my credit cards if I must use them.

I don't really need hot water if its blazing hot in Cartagena. I just need a bed and a / see or a really good fan. I'm hopping to find something decent for around 30 a night.[/QUOTE]For the life of me I cannot understand why, if your budget is so tight that you would choose Cartagena, the most expensive city in all of Colombia. Two weeks on a $1000 USD, good luck bro and be sure to pack an old copy of Penthouse so you have something to entertain yourself. IMHO your choosing the wrong city based on your budget!

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1127347]Now that is what I am talking about ! You are on vacation, and if money is such as big issue that you cannot afford to spend $75.00 dollars a night for a luxury type of apartment for a short stay, then you have no business going on vacation. This was one of the reasons I tried to help you out Ho Whisperer, because I did not think you were a cheap ass like Tar Heel Bred. If he only has a thousand dollars to go on vacation to Cartagena for two weeks, he does not belong on vacation, especially to a city such as Cartagena, and he should be trying to find a better job, or picking up a second job so he can AFFORD to go on vacation, and be able to enjoy it.[/QUOTE]Thank God everyone is not like Blackhawk and that there is actually helpful non condescending people on this forum. Who are you to tell people where and how they should go on vacation? Grow up buddy.

Hillbilly and HoWhisper thanks again for the usual info you provided!

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1127347]Now that is what I am talking about ! You are on vacation, and if money is such as big issue that you cannot afford to spend $75.00 dollars a night for a luxury type of apartment for a short stay, then you have no business going on vacation. This was one of the reasons I tried to help you out Ho Whisperer, because I did not think you were a cheap ass like Tar Heel Bred. If he only has a thousand dollars to go on vacation to Cartagena for two weeks, he does not belong on vacation, especially to a city such as Cartagena, and he should be trying to find a better job, or picking up a second job so he can AFFORD to go on vacation, and be able to enjoy it.[/QUOTE]Just because a guy works at Walmart and only has $1, 000 to spend in CTG for two weeks doesn't mean He should have to stay home and jerk off.

He can at the airport walk toward the street so the taxi will cost less. He can bring cans of tuna fish with him so he won't spend any money on food.

He can hang outside of LDV and meet the girls there so He won't have to spend money on drinks.

He can drink tap water instead of bottled water.

He can argue with the girls to get the lowest possible price, then after the session He will not tip the girl no matter if even a GFE was provided.

He can stay at the El Conquestador so his room will be cheap.

He can stay away from the Playa so He won't have to pay Tony his tribute.

The most important thing left for him to do would be to find a guy like yourself and hang with him and when the check comes He can go to the bathroom. I'm sure you won't mind carrying a poor Monger.

Remember, it is better to give than receive.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1127235]You are correct, I should have clarified. I only plan on spending 1000 excluding airfair for 2 weeks. So I can only really drop 500 on lodging total. I could go over as ill have my credit cards if I must use them.

I don't really need hot water if its blazing hot in Cartagena. I just need a bed and a / see or a really good fan. I'm hopping to find something decent for around 30 a night. [/QUOTE]No matter where you fall on this debate you have to respect a man for sticking to a budget.

Last night I was walking, or I should say hobbling along with my crutches. I was moving slow as this was the first time in months I was out at night walking. I was heading to a friends house for a little party and some Mexican food. Just as I passed the curve I heard some very loud popping sounds. At first I thought it was firecrackers. I turned around and directly behind me, like 30 or 40 feet, there was a silver pickup truck. The truck was pulling out of the parking lot on the same side of the street as me. It was straddling the side walk, on its way to making a right turn. Pop, Pop, Pop.

People were running, glass was flying and that was when I figured there was gun play at hand. Smoke was coming out of the shattered windows of the truck. I could see into the now broken passenger side window. There was a street light close by and I saw smoke engulfing the inside of the pick up.

I could not tell who was firing, whether it was coming from inside the truck or out side. Sounded like 4 or 5 shots and they did not all sound alike. There could have been several shooters.

One of the street guys fled past me holding his hand and blood was everywhere. It looked like he was shot in the hand. A split second later more shots rang out and some one pushed me to the ground. I guess he thought this was for my own good. He saw the crutches but flogged me down anyway. I was ok, just a little more banged up.

Every thing went silent. It was a little surreal. I laid low while looking for more shooters. All around me were people hiding. Hiding around building corners, hiding behind planters or on the ground, pressing their bodies as low as they could. I rose to me feet and surveyed the situation. As I was getting a fix on the truck, all of a sudden it started up. Wheels screeching, it popped into gear and roared away just past me. There were 3 or 4 men in the truck, it was one of those 4 door Toyota models. A pair of police officers happen to be cruising by on a motorcycle no more that 5 seconds behind the pick up truck and gave chase.

At that point people were just milling about. Since this is not my first gun fight / hit I have seen in Colombia, I decided the best course of action at this point was to leave and go eat some Mexican food. I stayed at my friend's house for a few hours, the food was great. I headed back home around 10:00. As I passed on my way home, there were all kinds of police and investigators working the scene. They had it all taped off just like CSI Miami!

I was very happy I did not get shot and it looked like no one was dead. At least I did not see any body's on the ground. I do not know what happened to the pick up truck with the men. I do not know if they were the targets, the shooters or just a group of drunken Colombians playing with their guns. I am sure that I will read all about it in today's paper.

Life here in Colombia continues to be, well how do I say, eventful!

The body count continues.

The Vagabundo

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1127535]Just because a guy works at Walmart and only has $1, 000 to spend in CTG for two weeks doesn't mean He should have to stay home and jerk off.

He can at the airport walk toward the street so the taxi will cost less. He can bring cans of tuna fish with him so he won't spend any money on food.

He can hang outside of LDV and meet the girls there so He won't have to spend money on drinks.

He can drink tap water instead of bottled water.

He can argue with the girls to get the lowest possible price, then after the session He will not tip the girl no matter if even a GFE was provided.

He can stay at the El Conquestador so his room will be cheap.

He can stay away from the Playa so He won't have to pay Tony his tribute.

The most important thing left for him to do would be to find a guy like yourself and hang with him and when the check comes He can go to the bathroom. I'm sure you won't mind carrying a poor Monger.

Remember, it is better to give than receive.[/QUOTE]This is not a "mongoring" trip for me. I'm not even a monger. I have only paid for sex once in my life and that was at The Del Rey in Costa Rica. I have been to Mexico, Brasil, and Costa Rica. In the places I usually hookup with 2 regular girls and one or two working girls (for free on nights I'm leaving the club empty handed) in a week to two week span.

This like all my trips are to soak up the sun, and to see another part of the world. I'm not on vacation to fuck prostitutes. Although I'm not prejudice and won't discriminate if the chick is hot.

The p4p spots are last on my daily agenda if on my agenda at all. During the day I like to meet girls working in the Malls, the beach, walking around the parks and squares, or at the University. And during the night at regular clubs. Then if all that fails and I'm faced with the option of going home empty handed I head towards the p4p spots looking to "shore" (swoop pros and semi pros for free)

But Blackhawk you have zero right to be telling people what kind of vacation they should be going on. We all have different preferences and come from different walks of life. I'm sure when I get done with grad school and I'm 45 years old ill have 2-3 grand to drop my my trips, but as a 24 yr old working his way through college that is not the case right now. Doesn't make me cheap, it just means I have a tighter budget than most jerk off.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69; 1127566]We all want to go and enjoy a vacation, but if you have less than seventy five dollars a day to spend, you should not be going anywhere[/QUOTE]Thanks for keeping it real. True as it gets and hope this is the end of more wasted space here. About all that can be said about where the women are in CTG has already been said.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1127535]Just because a guy works at Walmart and only has $1, 000 to spend in CTG for two weeks doesn't mean He should have to stay home and jerk off.

He can at the airport walk toward the street so the taxi will cost less. He can bring cans of tuna fish with him so he won't spend any money on food.

He can hang outside of LDV and meet the girls there so He won't have to spend money on drinks.

He can drink tap water instead of bottled water.

He can argue with the girls to get the lowest possible price, then after the session He will not tip the girl no matter if even a GFE was provided.

He can stay at the El Conquestador so his room will be cheap.

He can stay away from the Playa so He won't have to pay Tony his tribute.

The most important thing left for him to do would be to find a guy like yourself and hang with him and when the check comes He can go to the bathroom. I'm sure you won't mind carrying a poor Monger.

Remember, it is better to give than receive.[/QUOTE]Good advise John with the exception of drinking tap water in a third world country, a well traveled guy like you knows better than that. My advise would be for him to wait until he has saved up $1003. And buy a six pack of bottled water at the super mercado, hahaha.

[QUOTE=Viajero;1123188]College Pusher, you will be better off in Medellin than Cartagena. Medellin is much cheaper and the girls are easier to get, you will have much better time. The weather is better in Medellin also, it is not that hot. Also Medellin has better night life and a lot more choices. If you need help in Medellin, send me a private message and I see what I can do for you.[/QUOTE]Wow. Nothing could be further from the truth. Don't mean to pick on you sir but I have a read a few posts here with guys reporting one needs $300-$500 a day minimum to do Cartagena. That is complete and utter bullshit. One could say you need MORE to do Medellin if you go to (insert Fase II, Loutron, Luna Lanera). All of which cost more or the same as LDV, Restuarants cost MORE in Medellin if you go to El Santisimo, El Cielo, La Provencia.

But would anyone believe me in that there are only just 3 choices for food lodging and broads in Medellin as listed above?

The bottom line is this is Colombia. Colombians live here. They do not have alot of money. And even though most parts of Cartagena are touristy and the poor Colombian workers live mostly out side the center there are still choices for cheaper meals and hotels. There are Hostals in Cartagena where back packers who have next to no money stay. They find inexpensive restaurants.

So, this means that you will always have the choices to go that low if you choose. Like playing BlackJack at a $5. 00 table but you are a $50-$100 a hand player. When you are on a cold streak you can drop to 5 bucks a hand and ride it out until the deck or whatever is in your favor.

[B]TarHeel Bread. [/B] You got a $1, 000 for a week not including air? Going to a third world country? You say you shoop or swoop girls for free and you only pay putas as a last resort or back up? Bro. You've got [B]sufficient money [/B]if you eat normal and stay at a place that's like $USD65 a night (125K). Today COP is 1907 to the 1USD. That 1, 900, 000COP minus 750K for the 6 nights at the hotel and minus 150K for back and forth to the airport and you've got 1, 000, 000 that's 166K a day to blow.

If you are not paying for top notch, high priced hookers every day and if you start off drinking in your place before you go out you could feasibly spend under 150K a day.

High end Colombian owned (that's the key, not the gringos who own who are looking to fleece other gringos) hotels in Medellin cost over $USD150 a night. I would be an ass if I told you that was your only choice and that it is too expensive and stay home.

People who think $300-$500 USD a day minimum in Cartagena need to lay off the glue. This ain't Paris and not everybody vacations like Motley Crue.

Just remember who your audience is when you ask some of these questions. You got guys here answering you who only stay in top of the line gringo owned penthouse apartments and pay for sex 3-4 times a day, while eating a ton and drinking a ton and maybe even indulging in the green and / or the white, splashing money around to impress the ladies because they have 20, 30, 40 years and 60, 70, 80 kilos on the girls.

I see regular Joes in their 20s and 30s come down and get laid for free all the time.

You go down and have a great time, feel it out for yourself. Bring your street smarts and your camera and report back pronto.

I used to be really out-going with fellow gringos in Cartagena now I try and avoid them. It's sad but many gringos show up down here thinking that 200 bucks a day or whatever will be enough and when they realize that the girls won't go for less than 200K the first thing they do is free load off me. Sit in my tent, drink my beers, I've met some real chislers down there, some gringos are worse than the vendedors. The problem with Cartagena is that dolce vita and elektra are only a 5 minute cab or walk from your apartment / hotel once a girls got you off she can't resist the urge to go find another guy its just so easy she actually starts to worry that maybe she's missing another guy because she's still with you the girls especially the top girls they get into a frenzy when their away from their perch at elektra and dolcevita for any length of time. If laguito why el centro werent so close maybe you'd get great GFE like Medellin / Bogota because in big cities a girl dreads the half hour cab ride back to the club. Oh yeah one other thing. Costenas are fat and ugly for the most part and dark skinned, at any given time theres only about a couple dozen really hot paisas working the circuit none of them are really interested in TLN if that's your thing its not mine anymore because even if you arrange it before hand she doesn't want to be there she's missing out on 800K thats the average take of a really hot paisa everynight. You can see why going for less than 200K doesn't go with her plans.

Cartagena is expensive.

Example of a day:

100k per night for my apartment its a dump 150k is what most pay.

5k in the morning to taxi to the atm to get more money.

50k for beer and chips for the cooler, ice too.

1k to the kid who packs the bags at olympica.

5 k to taxi back (if you piggy back on a moto its only 2k but you got to put the lice ridden helmet on or pay 10k to the cops)

2k to the doorman to carry the shit up or 2k to the deaf beggar who hangs out front all the time.

20k to the muchacha to clean the dirty sheets and towels and she's going to eat from your fridge at lunch.

20k to tony for the carpa.

30k to the massage girl.

10k for the fruit lady.

20k for the vallenato guys.

20k for some working girls almuerzo.

30k for your almuerzo because the kid who goes to get it at mcdonalds keeps the change or uses a taxi to get it.

10k to those guys in the wheel chair or the creepy broad with the crutches or the ms guy under the tree.

20k in miscellaneous junk like gaffas, collares, CDs, propinas,

200k if she's hot 150k if she's lame for the hooker you take back to apartment for an after-nooner.

10k for her taxi because no-matter what deal you made she's going to beg for it.

20k for a few more beers at the beach from tony because the coolers empty. A few of those he'll drink on you.

Then a much needed siesta. That's free.

6k for the taxi to the torre reloj in front of tu candela to meet your girl pro, semi or non.

3k for a beer from the urchins.

3k in go-away money while waking in el centro.

3k for her smokes when she arrives.

3k for another beer they're small.

120k for dinner at Quebracho or Enoteca don't bother with La Vitrola they won't let you in with her. It could be more expensive if you don't steer her away from the langostinos.

20k to cover charge so you can hang-out at tu candela for a while / same dif if its Cafe del Mar.

30k for a few henikens for urself there at 8k a pop.

10k in taxi money for her to go home if she's playing innocent girl or go to work if she's a pro and you've already done her.

6k taxi back to laguito and dolce vita.

Don't even think of stepping in La perla.

30k in beers before you find a girl you like.

3k for her smokes outside.

6k to taxi to your apartment they always ask because its hard walking 2 blocks in heels.

3k for the Smirnoff Ice in your fridge for her / you got to offer something.

200k for her services.

Now its 3am and your spent but a little voice says why not check out elektra before going to sleep.

6k taxi to take you and her there.

3k for smokes for her before you enter.

2k in go-away money for the urchins.

20k for her double shot of what-ever then she vanishes.

50k in drinks for you and your pizza outside in the jardin and what ever drinks your next broad wants.

6k taxi home.

Thats 1. 1 million pesos.

The rest of the shots.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1127597]The joke of the day, and possibly the week, month, and year. As here you are on a forum dealing with prostitution. Take your penniless ass somewhere else, because you just made yourself out to be the joke of all jokes with this post of yours.[/QUOTE]Where else would I find info on chica friendly hotels and places to go to try and pick up working girls for free?

Don't find that info in the tourist guide books.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1127676]Wow. Nothing could be further from the truth. Don't mean to pick on you sir but I have a read a few posts here with guys reporting one needs $300-$500 a day minimum to do Cartagena. That is complete and utter bullshit. One could say you need MORE to do Medellin if you go to (insert Fase II, Loutron, Luna Lanera). All of which cost more or the same as LDV, Restuarants cost MORE in Medellin if you go to El Santisimo, El Cielo, La Provencia.

But would anyone believe me in that there are only just 3 choices for food lodging and broads in Medellin as listed above?

The bottom line is this is Colombia. Colombians live here. They do not have alot of money. And even though most parts of Cartagena are touristy and the poor Colombian workers live mostly out side the center there are still choices for cheaper meals and hotels. There are Hostals in Cartagena where back packers who have next to no money stay. They find inexpensive restaurants.

So, this means that you will always have the choices to go that low if you choose. Like playing BlackJack at a $5. 00 table but you are a $50-$100 a hand player. When you are on a cold streak you can drop to 5 bucks a hand and ride it out until the deck or whatever is in your favor.

[B]TarHeel Bread. [/B] You got a $1, 000 for a week not including air? Going to a third world country? You say you shoop or swoop girls for free and you only pay putas as a last resort or back up? Bro. You've got [B]sufficient money [/B]if you eat normal and stay at a place that's like $USD65 a night (125K). Today COP is 1907 to the 1USD. That 1, 900, 000COP minus 750K for the 6 nights at the hotel and minus 150K for back and forth to the airport and you've got 1, 000, 000 that's 166K a day to blow.

If you are not paying for top notch, high priced hookers every day and if you start off drinking in your place before you go out you could feasibly spend under 150K a day.

High end Colombian owned (that's the key, not the gringos who own who are looking to fleece other gringos) hotels in Medellin cost over $USD150 a night. I would be an ass if I told you that was your only choice and that it is too expensive and stay home.

People who think $300-$500 USD a day minimum in Cartagena need to lay off the glue. This ain't Paris and not everybody vacations like Motley Crue.

Just remember who your audience is when you ask some of these questions. You got guys here answering you who only stay in top of the line gringo owned penthouse apartments and pay for sex 3-4 times a day, while eating a ton and drinking a ton and maybe even indulging in the green and / or the white, splashing money around to impress the ladies because they have 20, 30, 40 years and 60, 70, 80 kilos on the girls.

I see regular Joes in their 20s and 30s come down and get laid for free all the time.

You go down and have a great time, feel it out for yourself. Bring your street smarts and your camera and report back pronto.[/QUOTE]Some of these guys just are grumpy and mad that a regular young joe shmo can come to Colombia and pull hot ass without paying for it.

And no its a 1000 budget for 2 weeks not 1. I'm going to have fun, no doubt.

Like you said you can do Cartagena on the cheap no problem. Stay in budget hotels and hostels for 10-20 bucks. Eat at cheap local shops or street vender's, and buy cheap alcohol before going to a more pricey club, thats even if you go to a pricey club at all.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1127676]Wow. Nothing could be further from the truth. Don't mean to pick on you sir but I have a read a few posts here with guys reporting one needs $300-$500 a day minimum to do Cartagena. That is complete and utter bullshit. One could say you need MORE to do Medellin if you go to (insert Fase II, Loutron, Luna Lanera). All of which cost more or the same as LDV, Restuarants cost MORE in Medellin if you go to El Santisimo, El Cielo, La Provencia.

But would anyone believe me in that there are only just 3 choices for food lodging and broads in Medellin as listed above?

The bottom line is this is Colombia. Colombians live here. They do not have alot of money. And even though most parts of Cartagena are touristy and the poor Colombian workers live mostly out side the center there are still choices for cheaper meals and hotels. There are Hostals in Cartagena where back packers who have next to no money stay. They find inexpensive restaurants.

So, this means that you will always have the choices to go that low if you choose. Like playing BlackJack at a $5. 00 table but you are a $50-$100 a hand player. When you are on a cold streak you can drop to 5 bucks a hand and ride it out until the deck or whatever is in your favor.

[B]TarHeel Bread. [/B] You got a $1, 000 for a week not including air? Going to a third world country? You say you shoop or swoop girls for free and you only pay putas as a last resort or back up? Bro. You've got [B]sufficient money [/B]if you eat normal and stay at a place that's like $USD65 a night (125K). Today COP is 1907 to the 1USD. That 1, 900, 000COP minus 750K for the 6 nights at the hotel and minus 150K for back and forth to the airport and you've got 1, 000, 000 that's 166K a day to blow.

If you are not paying for top notch, high priced hookers every day and if you start off drinking in your place before you go out you could feasibly spend under 150K a day.

High end Colombian owned (that's the key, not the gringos who own who are looking to fleece other gringos) hotels in Medellin cost over $USD150 a night. I would be an ass if I told you that was your only choice and that it is too expensive and stay home.

People who think $300-$500 USD a day minimum in Cartagena need to lay off the glue. This ain't Paris and not everybody vacations like Motley Crue.

Just remember who your audience is when you ask some of these questions. You got guys here answering you who only stay in top of the line gringo owned penthouse apartments and pay for sex 3-4 times a day, while eating a ton and drinking a ton and maybe even indulging in the green and / or the white, splashing money around to impress the ladies because they have 20, 30, 40 years and 60, 70, 80 kilos on the girls.

I see regular Joes in their 20s and 30s come down and get laid for free all the time.

You go down and have a great time, feel it out for yourself. Bring your street smarts and your camera and report back pronto. [/QUOTE]LuckyEd, you are one of my favorite posters here, and I enjoy reading your posts. As a matter of fact, I am not into street walkers or cheap casas, unfortunately I have an expensive taste when it comes to women. When the urge arises I tend to hit places like Loutron, Energy, Face Dos, or I wait for the right opportunity to hit it with a non pro that I sometimes meet in metro or supermarket or bus stops etc. That's all about my mongering here.

As for the young college man, I was just trying to tell him that his limited budget will suit him better in Medellin rather than tourist full Cartagena, and in my opinion, it is way more expensive than Medellin.

Last October (2010) I found a fare from Boston to CTG for $240. 00 + $50. 00 For luggage. I didn't even think about it. I bought the ticket. Then the required research began. In September and November CTG gets 5 inches of rain. In October they get almost 10. But I'm a New Englander. I'm used to shitty weather. At times the streets in El Laguito were flooded so badly, you had to take a taxi. Then the state elections took place and the Bars were closed Saturday and Sunday. It was still no problem getting laid.

I could write a page about how nice it was to deal with Juan Ventura. But it's been said before. I'll let it suffice to say that he's a gentleman, and rented a very nice apt to me for $60. 00 USD / night.

In CTG I like Elektra. If you can't close a deal with a broad, and you walk away, The whole bar knows about it.

I'm about to turn 58 I'm overweight balding, and I'm not ugly. But I'm not handsome. All I can say for myself is. That l Can pretend to be a gentleman when it suites my purpose. That's very important when dealing with Latinas. When I set my sights on a woman. I don't rush. I make sure she knows that I'm looking at her. When there is a waitress near her, I approach and say "Una traiga para la dama" (A drink for the lady) And I tip the waitress A little more than is customary. (12. 15%). Then you are required to ask the following.

Where are you from? = De donde estas?

How old are you? Or they say How many years do you have? = Cuantos anos tienes (pronounced anyos, If you say anos your asking how many anuses she has)

And most Important Do you have children? Tienes Ninos (ninyos)

I spend a little time with her. I make sure she doesn't have any annoying habits.

If it's a go: I invite her to my apt. They always say yes. And I immediately ask How Much? I always counter offer. It sets the stage for future negotiations. At Elektra 150, 000 for a desirable women is about right. If you have certain needs, now would be the time to discuss them.

Getting back to the subject at hand. After travel and lodging expenses. I spend about $150. 00 / day I'm heading to CTG in a couple of weeks. If anything is different, I'll be sure to post it.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1127657]Good advise John with the exception of drinking tap water in a third world country, a well traveled guy like you knows better than that. My advise would be for him to wait until he has saved up $1003. And buy a six pack of bottled water at the super mercado, hahaha.[/QUOTE]Chichipato Tar Heel, good advice here! Spend the 3mil for a gallon of Brisa and do not even use the tap water to brush your teeth with. Put it this way, then you will save about $40 on all the pepto bismo, immodium and toilet paper you would have had to buy. My Paisa friends tell me over and over again that the water in MDE is the best in Colombia but I don't take their word for it for even a second and fuck up my whole trip. Fuck that.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1127828]Some of these guys just are grumpy and mad that a regular young joe shmo can come to Colombia and pull hot ass without paying for it.

And no its a 1000 budget for 2 weeks not 1. I'm going to have fun, no doubt.[/QUOTE]Still on the job, officer tar hell?

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1127784]That is what he has for 2 weeks![/QUOTE]2 weeks? Tarheel stay home.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69; 1127793]I am once again going to say fuck you. How many times have you been to Cartagena dipshit? As far as I can tell you are a Medellin monger. Before you open your cocksuckers you might want to check the cost of buying a bottle of Old Parr in one of the discos. It is 250 pesos. Who the hell wants to sit in one place all night, as I like to bar hop, so that means buying a couple of bottles, so there you are up to 500 pesos, and I must prefer to buy a bottle as I am not a cheap fuck like possibly you are, or some of the others on the board here, and I am one who shares my bottle. Ask John Gault or Youcan, who have partied with me on numerous occasions. Then you have the cost of your girl or girls, and maybe breakfast with her in morning.

During the day I like to hangout on the beach everyday, so I buy some beers, some drinks, might buy some food, a massage for me and / or possibly for a girl or girls. There goes another one hundred dollars before you know it. Then if I want the company of a girl, there goes more money.

Also you have taxi fares, and miscellaneous expenses.

Do not fucking tell me to layoff the glue fuckhead, as I live in reality, and I have been going to Cartagena since the late 90's so I know what the fuck I am talking about, because I live it.

Now I know you know John Gault, so shoot him a personal message if you think I am so full of shit, or shut your cocksuckers up, or come to Cartagena and walk in my shoes, or the shoes of say Youcan. I thought you were one of the people on the board with a half a brain, but I guess I was wrong on that one. [/QUOTE]Don't assume this guy is you. All of you. That is your mistake. He knows he is on a budget. He is not looking to tip every gamine nor is he looking to do a TLN with the top puta at LDV. He will not be going to the club's VIP section with P Diddy and splurging on Liters of 12 Year Old Old Parr, the preferred whisky of Traquetos and mafiosos.

Not everyone there is going the same route as you guys and Mr Shwooper made that clear. You all have pointed out how much things cost. Look at Tom Power's post. He walks down the street and hands out money to everyone.

You've been going to CTG since the 90s? I know a back packer who has been going since 2003, about 34 years old by now stays at a Hostal for backpackers and he does Cartagena on less than $50 bucks (not including his room) a day and gets laid for the price of buying lunch and a media of rum with cokes. And he is not the only one. These guys are not drinking Old Parr, nor do they even know who Tony is. They are not there in luxury, tipping the homeless like Tony Soprano.

How much does a media of Guaro cost outside of the hooker clubs, in a normal joint? Licorera? You don't reference that and that is what this guy is looking to know. Not how much the limo ride from the pent house to the Hot Tub costs.

Colombians go on vacation to CTG from other parts of Colombia. You think they are spending $USD500 or COP 1 millone a day? That is where my reference to glue comes in.

BH69. You are a good guy, but you seem a bit pissed.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1127828]Some of these guys just are grumpy and mad that a regular young joe shmo can come to Colombia and pull hot ass without paying for it.

And no its a 1000 budget for 2 weeks not 1. I'm going to have fun, no doubt.

Like you said you can do Cartagena on the cheap no problem. Stay in budget hotels and hostels for 10-20 bucks. Eat at cheap local shops or street vender's, and buy cheap alcohol before going to a more pricey club, thats even if you go to a pricey club at all.[/QUOTE]2 weeks? I would reconsider or get ready for spending a few nights taking it really, [B]really [/B]easy. Pulling ass for cheap or almost free happens but mostly for younger and in shape guys. My old neighbor did CTG for a week last year and came back with all types of photos. This Colombian lady doesn't have 2 nickels to rub together. There is no way she spent more than 100K pesos a day.

You will be able to gauge your expenses. Just make sure you have enough to get home and pay the airport tax. If you call a few hostals or search the web for Hostal guides they will advise you as to where cheaper eats and attractions are. That stuff is not available on this board, sorry,

Go and have a great time take it all in and when you get back to your home country tell all your friends how awesome CTG is, how easy it is to pull ass and how everyone should check it out. After all it is the safest place in all of Colombia. Even cruise ships stop there!

[QUOTE=Viajero; 1127943]LuckyEd, you are one of my favorite posters here, and I enjoy reading your posts. As a matter of fact, I am not into street walkers or cheap casas, unfortunately I have an expensive taste when it comes to women. When the urge arises I tend to hit places like Loutron, Energy, Face Dos, or I wait for the right opportunity to hit it with a non pro that I sometimes meet in metro or supermarket or bus stops etc. That's all about my mongering here.

As for the young college man, I was just trying to tell him that his limited budget will suit him better in Medellin rather than tourist full Cartagena, and in my opinion, it is way more expensive than Medellin.[/QUOTE]Viajero you are a class act. Thanks for the civil response. I neglected to see that he only had a grand for [B]2 weeks[/B]. But either way it was always clear to me that he was not expecting much. We all knew he was on a tight budget. And was not really going to monger and splash bucks, but try his luck at getting freebies. He has his sights set on CTG.

There is no reason why all here should assume he is going their route, especially since he made that clear.

Me? I spend a ton of money as well. But I have the sense to recognize that not everyone is going to spend as much as me. I am not the type of guy to go on a dinner date and have practically exact change for that date in my wallet. But this guy is. Does that mean he shouldn't go to CTG?

Wow you guys are big spenders. 50k for beach girls if you bypass Tony. Take your own soft cooler drink 3xs as much and still save 100k pesos over drinking Tonys beers.

But I hand them out to single girls and they are very grateful.

Find a tout by the clock tower and get same quality you would get from LDV and Electra for 100k pesos tln.

Won't argue with alot of those numbers but I don't do GFE's with putas so I don't buy them anything to speak of.

I spend same in Cartagena or less than I do in Mde and been going there for 13 years.

But not everyone does.

[QUOTE=Tom Power; 1127748]I used to be really out-going with fellow gringos in Cartagena now I try and avoid them. It's sad but many gringos show up down here thinking that 200 bucks a day or whatever will be enough and when they realize that the girls won't go for less than 200K the first thing they do is free load off me. Sit in my tent, drink my beers, I've met some real chislers down there, some gringos are worse than the vendedors.

Cartagena is expensive.

Example of a day: [I]see orig post[/I]Thats 1. 1 million pesos. [/QUOTE]This actually sound like my budget but I spend much more on dinner, more on lunch, more on the room and I go to La Perla.

But for this guy on a tight budget I see:

[B]Beers:[/B]

[QUOTE=Tom Power; 1127748]50k for beer and chips for the cooler, ice too. [B][I] (Thats about 20Beers) [/I][/B]

And after drinking 50K worth of beers purchased at the liquor store.

20k for a few more beers at the beach from tony because the coolers empty. A few of those he'll drink on you. [B][I] (24 beers) [/I][/B]

3k for a beer from the urchins. [B][I] (25) [/I][/B]

30k for a few henikens for urself there at 8k a pop. [B][I] (28 beers) [/I][/B]

30k in beers before you find a girl you like. [B][I] (31 beers) [/I][/B]

3k for another beer they're small. [B][I] (32) [/I][/B]

50k in drinks for you and your pizza outside in the jardin and what ever drinks your next broad wants. (not even counting this) [/QUOTE][B]Comment[/B]: [I]Not every one buys [B]32 beers every day[/B]. That's 186K in Beers and I'm sure I missed a few[/I]

[QUOTE=Tom Power; 1127748]10k for her taxi because no-matter what deal you made she's going to beg for it.

6k for the taxi to the torre reloj in front of tu candela to meet your girl pro, semi or non.

6k taxi to take you and her there.

6k taxi home.

10k in taxi money for her to go home if she's playing innocent girl or go to work if she's a pro and you've already done her.

6k taxi back to laguito and dolce vita.

6k to taxi to your apartment they always ask because its hard walking 2 blocks in heels.

Then a much needed siesta. That's free. [/QUOTE][B]Comment[/B]: [I]Taxi to the ATM and back. Why not consolidate a little? Because like me you are not on a budget. Also you got the taxi here for 2 or three different girls or some random massage girl. I lost count. [/I]

[QUOTE=Tom Power; 1127748]3k for smokes for her before you enter.

3k for her smokes when she arrives.

3k for her smokes outside. [/QUOTE][B]Comment[/B]: [I]The guy is not mongering. If he is maybe he gets a non s moker? Just saying[/I]

[QUOTE=Tom Power; 1127748]20k to cover charge so you can hang-out at tu candela for a while / same dif if its Cafe del Mar.

20k for her double shot of what-ever then she vanishes.

3k in go-away money while waking in el centro.

2k in go-away money for the urchins. [/QUOTE][B]Comment[/B]: [I]The guy is not mongering. Maybe one night he does this? Just saying. [/I]

[QUOTE=Tom Power; 1127748]120k for dinner at Quebracho or Enoteca don't bother with La Vitrola they won't let you in with her. It could be more expensive if you don't steer her away from the langostinos.[/QUOTE][B]Comment[/B]: [I]The guy is not mongering. Lobster dinner? Maybe one night he does this? Other nights he eats like a Colombian? Just saying[/I]

[QUOTE=Tom Power; 1127748]3k for the Smirnoff Ice in your fridge for her / you got to offer something.[/QUOTE][B]Comment[/B]: [I]The guy is on a tight budget. His room does not have a fridge, pobrecito, hehehehe. [/I]

Thats 1. 1 million pesos for guys like us. But for him it is 60K COP no woman and 250K total if he throws in a 150K girl, her taxi and a tip. But again he is not mongering. Looking to swoop girls after their shift.

I will say one thing. He might get lucky if he has game but he is in for some real disappointment if he thinks anywhere in Colombia is going to anywhere close to Rio.

[quote=speedbump; 1127969]last october (2010) i could write a page about how nice it was to deal with juan ventura. but it's been said before. i'll let it suffice to say that he's a gentleman, and rented a very nice apt to me for [b]$60. 00 usd / night. [/b]

in ctg i like elektra. if you can't close a deal with a broad, and you walk away, the whole bar knows about it.

i'm about to turn 58 i'm overweight balding, and i'm not ugly. but i'm not handsome. all i can say for myself is. that l can pretend to be a gentleman when it suites my purpose. that's very important when dealing with latinas. when i set my sights on a woman. i don't rush. i make sure she knows that i'm looking at her. when there is a waitress near her, i approach and say "una traiga para la dama" (a drink for the lady) and i tip the waitress a little more than is customary. (12. 15%). then you are required to ask the following.

where are you from? = de donde estas?

how old are you? or they say how many years do you have? = cuantos anos tienes (pronounced anyos, if you say anos your asking how many anuses she has)

and most important do you have children? tienes ninos (ninyos)

i spend a little time with her. i make sure she doesn't have any annoying habits.

if it's a go: i invite her to my apt. they always say yes. and i immediately ask how much? i always counter offer. it sets the stage for future negotiations. at elektra 150, 000 for a desirable women is about right. if you have certain needs, now would be the time to discuss them.

getting back to the subject at hand. [b][i]after travel and lodging expenses [/i] [b]i spend about $150. 00 / day[/b][/b] i'm heading to ctg in a couple of weeks. if anything is different, i'll be sure to post it. [/quote]de donde [b]eres[/b]

$150 a day + usd$60 a night is $usd210 (yeah i went to college) and is a lot less than $usd300-$500. you sure you were in ctg? if you don't do the hooker you spent 140k a day or $usd78 at octobers fx or usd$73 today (again, not including the lodging part).

i don't want to get into a pissing contest but uh with that 140k pesos left over did you:

order a liter of old parr whiskey?

32 beers? perhaps a lobster dinner for a random hooker?

[i]"cuantos anos tienes?"[/i] is actually hysterical and i think the girls get a fun chuckle when foreigners make a bawdy mistake like that.

I was just lookin at my photos I just posted and it wasn't my intention to call Tar Heel a dummy I was just trying to make an impact on how people always come on the board and ask about getting a hotel vs apartment.

My apologies.

Here's a suggestion Tar Heel maybe you should consider romancing some girl before you get there and spend two weeks making love to her that could really make things affordable, in my experience when you meet a girl down there she's not puttin' out unless you wine and dine her, but if she thinks you love her and are coming to Cartagena for her alone she'll bend over backwards to show you how committed she is to your future together and insn't interesada (gold digger) hell if you lay it on thick before you get there your future mother-in-law will let you move in and skip the hostel she'll cook you meals you could pull-off coming home with money and no headaches on your VISA. If your young and good looking playing the love card is your ace in the hole. Obviously, you won't have a score card like Pauly D, but condom-less sex for hours and hours for pennies out of pocket isn't too bad either.

Tom Power,

I enjoyed the pictures, thanks for posting. I got a couple questions though. Were you calling Juan a dummy? Or telling a dummy to hook up with Juan. Hahahaha. A comma would be helpful, but I knew what you meant. You never really know if a non-pro is really non-pro. Go ahead and approach anyway. I left the beach on several ocassions with women who appeared to be there on a family vacation complete with little kids hanging around. I agree that some of Tony's choices are on the edge, but in the past and most recently in September, he has introduced me to some of the best and energy filled college girls. I keep telling Tony no tto the uglies and he digs deeper and finally will get something I consider spending my time with.

The non-pros can cost you a heck of a lot more than the prepagos. I swear when my wife would show up, my expenses quadrupled. I never can understand how she can take four different trips across town to the mall or our duplex in the same afternoon. Each time more taxi money. Of course she does like to spend her evenings in LaPerla or Rio and if she is up a few hundred dollars, she won't leave until it is all gone. I thought I was going to be divorced by now, but as it turns out, we are heading the embassy next week for her and my step son's visas once again.

The argument over how much to spend while on vacation depends on what one expects on vacation. For some, it means just a room and bed with a bathroom and would not entertain in their room. I am not sure how much entertaing will occur since many of the girls think we are all making seven figures a year. You may enjoy seeing the sights, going to the beach or to the mall. After three days, one could see most of the sights in Cartagena and visit every store in the mall. I admit though, that I enjoy watching people and grab a table and several beers to see what happens. As for the beach, that is not what brought me to Cartagena. I enjoy it, but if it is the beach, I would just go to Siesta Key in Sarasota instead. I do want what comes to the beach, drink and talk to other Gringos, I just do not enjoy the grey sand and plastic floating in the water.

I first came to Cartagena in September 2003 and was lucky to find somebody to take me around the city to places that were in the barrios. Great food, inexpensive rum, people around to laugh at my attempt to revise my high school Spanish. Many are still my friends and I actually ended up marrying that girl I met. She did give up a good job and brought her step son to the US before her mother got cancer and she got homesick. She moved back to Cartagena which is why I see her only when I am in town. It does get expensive to wine dine and take her shopping when I am in town. I would prefer to go to the beach and take an afternoon street girl up to the apartment for a few hours. I can eat one meal a day and later eat a few of those deep fried hamburger filled pastries. A case of beer, water, ice, and coke will make me content.

I have also spent eight grand in ten days because it is easy to do. Most of it was after spending time at the bars (she liked Mr. Babilla) with my wife and her friends. At some point in the evening, there might be six girls drinking from our several bottles of Buchannan. I am a Chivas drinker and keep a bottle hidden in the apartment for myself. There comes the time in the evening, things head back to the apartment and there would be myself, wife and several of her friends back relaxing. More drinking and food needed to cure their munchies. Several times, I have been awaken by two naked women lying between my wife and I asking for money for the taxi and food for their little kids before they head to work. No matter how you think it is a nonpro or it will be a free fuck, it really isn't.

I have never been to Medellin, so I can't compare prices other than what others have written. I must trust what they say. I have been to Bogota on three different ocassions and found that although there are 50K casa girls and other low cost alternatives, the cost of lodging and food will eat your budget quickyly. Also, why go someplace that reminds me of being in springtime Chicago (I love Chicago, so nobody get on my case). You know where it is cloudy and chilly, then rains, more clouds and then some sunshine before it clouds up again. Instead of shorts, t-shirts and suntan lotion, it is long pants and jackets. I am heading to Bogota next Saturday and a hotel room for 6 days will cost close to $900. 00, I spent almost three days working with different apartment agents looking for a place that could accomodate two adults and one teen. I gave up after the best I could get was $170. 00 per day. Of course, I planned it so that I will have the last two nights solo before flying home. I just hope I am not broke by then.

If all goes well and the visas arrive, I will make a return visit, this time back to Cartagena and will have a day or two to hang out by myself. If anyone is in Cartagena around April 15th, let me know.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1128022]2 weeks? I would reconsider or get ready for spending a few nights taking it really, [B]really [/B]easy. Pulling ass for cheap or almost free happens but mostly for younger and in shape guys. My old neighbor did CTG for a week last year and came back with all types of photos. This Colombian lady doesn't have 2 nickels to rub together. There is no way she spent more than 100K pesos a day.

You will be able to gauge your expenses. Just make sure you have enough to get home and pay the airport tax. If you call a few hostals or search the web for Hostal guides they will advise you as to where cheaper eats and attractions are. That stuff is not available on this board, sorry,

Go and have a great time take it all in and when you get back to your home country tell all your friends how awesome CTG is, how easy it is to pull ass and how everyone should check it out. After all it is the safest place in all of Colombia. Even cruise ships stop there![/QUOTE]I am young (24) and workout and play sports regularly. I can't imagine their being many young (20's) good looking gringos mongering in Cartagena Colombia. So I'm sure ill have a leg up when I walk into the joint. I speak decent enough spanish to hold a conversation. I'm confident I will pull for free.

Ill have about 65 dollars to spend a day. Once I get there Ill have a better idea of how much a day will cost. But I'm going to be eating on the CHEAP! I'm talking like spending 10-20 bucks a day on food. If I feel that I won't have enough ill just take it easy sund. Wed and only spend money going to clubs on the weekend.

Is their covers at the main clubs in Cartagena? Also how much for a bottle of local beer in these establishments?

I could just do hostels and just go to a love motel when I meet a chick that is DTF. I'll have access to more money if I need it.

[QUOTE=Tom Power; 1128100]I was just lookin at my photos I just posted and it wasn't my intention to call Tar Heel a dummy I was just trying to make an impact on how people always come on the board and ask about getting a hotel vs apartment.

My apologies.

Here's a suggestion Tar Heel maybe you should consider romancing some girl before you get there and spend two weeks making love to her that could really make things affordable, in my experience when you meet a girl down there she's not puttin' out unless you wine and dine her, but if she thinks you love her and are coming to Cartagena for her alone she'll bend over backwards to show you how committed she is to your future together and insn't interesada (gold digger) hell if you lay it on thick before you get there your future mother-in-law will let you move in and skip the hostel she'll cook you meals you could pull-off coming home with money and no headaches on your VISA. If your young and good looking playing the love card is your ace in the hole. Obviously, you won't have a score card like Pauly D, but condom-less sex for hours and hours for pennies out of pocket isn't too bad either. [/QUOTE]Tom, I'm already doing just that on ColombianCupid! I'm covering all my basis to make this trip good.

no i go to the beach for a few hours i may buy a beer or two. the only girl i picked up at the beach cost $60 usd i do stock my apartment. i eat there and in the old city no i didn't rent a carpa, i sat at a table in the restaurant. cabs were cheap. it's not my stile to walk around hemorrhaging money.

i.

[quote=black hawk69; 1128097]speedbump, i have some questions for you if you do not mind answering them:

could you break down for us your one hundred fifty dollars a day?

do you party on the beach at all during day, buying beers, water, juice, liquor, massages, maybe a manicure or pedicure, maybe buy a couple of souveniers.

do you rent a carpa, chair, or table?

do you order food on the beach, or buy anything from any of the vendors?

do you have an female company during the daytime hours, and if so, what type of money do you give to the girls?

do you go out at night to eat at any of the finer restaurants, or exactly where do you go and eat?

do you use taxis for transportation, and if so how much do you spend per day for a taxi?

do you buy food, refreshments for your apartment?

when you go out at night, do you just buy one or two drinks for the night?

i am curious as to how you are able to get by on one hundred fifty dollars a day, when you are giving the girl from elektra around eighty dollars of it. what do you do for entertainment outside of going to elektra, and what is the cost breakdown for the rest of your seventy dollars you spend daily?

your kindness in responding to my questions will be greatly appreciated! [/quote]

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1128206]I fricking hate it when guys try to manipulate the girls, as you suggested. These girls have hopes and dreams like the rest of us, and many do put there time and effort into meeting a good respectable guy that they can build a quality friendship with, that has the potential for a possible future filled with romance, stability, security, and opportunities. Why would you suggest to someone to manipulate them into false assumptions? If this is the type of guy you are, I can promise you that Karma will find you at some point. It might not today, or tomorrow, but at some point it will be knocking on your door for being manipulative. Totally classless.[/QUOTE]I hate this too. I'm no Captain Save-A-Ho but you can catch me frequently telling any and all girls I meet about the foreigners on vacation. Be sincere, you'll live longer.

Here is my report on CTG. I might have to do this report two fold if I can't finish it all today. I really don't think I have much to add, but hell I will write it anyway. First off I didn't really take any pictures, although most of the girls were more then willing to allow me. (I have my own personal reasons for this)

Here is a quick question before I get started. I was just wandering what you guys think of the girls taking pictures of us with them in the pictures and without. I was with 3 other guys and we took girls to the beach and restaurants almost everyday and they were all camera crazy! They took pictures of us left and right on the beach, hugging, laying around the apartment, in the Jaquizzi, etc. A few of my buddys were a little worried about this but it didn't bother me, they were like these girls could blackmail us, I just don't think so, all the girls we had were all really kool and some we kept longer then others but we treated them all well. Just would like a little feedback on this.

I will start with the first day and how I like to roll. We flew out of Atlantic city (spirit) cost of flight with all big front seats and carry on luggage fees was 585. 00 round trip. Got there at 5 am and drank about 4 bloody marys. 2hr and 10 minute flight to Ft. Lauderdale and three white wines on the plane later, we land in FLL. We pick up 4 bottles of Baileys. 4 Patron. 4 chevas regal. 4 bacardi. 2 drinks each in the airport and on to Cartagena. (2. 5hr flight) we arrive in CTG at around 1:30 I head right to the mac machine in the airport and grab 800, 000peso and a beer. I already had 600, 000 peso on me from last trip, so I am good for a couple of days and I got change for the cabby from the beer. We get 2 cabs for 15, 000 peso each to edificio playa mar where me and 2 buddys are staying in Penhouse and are friend is staying in 902.

This is my second year in the penhouse and you can figure on spending 300 to 350 us per night. Maybe if you are a hard negotiator you can do better then 300. I don't know. At 300. Its 100. Us per man, I was happy with that. Its a great place with a Jaquizzi and plenty of room, a great party place! My buddy in 902 paid 75. Us which we could probably get for 65. I didn't really like 902 but my buddy was happy with it. I have stayed in 301 and 801 and perfer them to 902 but they were not available. Now we are all unpacked and all have a nice buzz from both liquor and pills, for old fucks we can party with the best of them!

We hit the streets around 2:30. We all have come to an agreement we are not dealing with Tonys bullshit on this trip and decide we will spend are time in front of El Bonys, where I always get treated good from that establishment. Everybody knows me there and they have never paded the bill and appreciate the big tips we give them. I only use the chair vendor in front of Bonys to get me my chairs and cabana about 8chairs and 2 lounge chairs. 20, 000 plus a 10, 000 tip, nothing else, I walk up and get drinks at Bonys and the staff at Bonys carry down any food we order, which can be extensive because these little colombian girls can eat like crazy! We don't mind buying it because these girls clean there plates like it was there last meal! Ok getting back to leaving the apartment, we hit the street and start walking towards the beach. We hit the Farmacia and buy about 20 boxes of 4 cialis each at 3000 peso per box of 4. On are last day we found a place where we could buy it for 8000 per box for 4 pills, this is the cheapest I have ever found it and we bought a total of 150 pills to take home that last day. Keep in mind this is generic 50mg pills. I take one in the morning and one in the evening and my dick stays hard as a fucking rock when called upon, and keep in mind I'm drunk on pills, see, m, and liquor. (I am trying to be as open as possible) from there we say Hello, to the guys at Restaurant Requisimo where we often eat and then head down to Bonys. Tony must of gotten word we were down there and came down and said Hello, and asked if we were coming to his beach, which by the way is practically washed away, its less then a 1/3 of the size it use to be! I politely told him we would not be on his area of the beach at all because we were tired of the argument at the end of everyday. Believe me we would have an agurment everyday and it was not because of us, a bill that should have been say 150, 000 always ended up 300, 000 so enough was enough last year. As the week went on, he was sick that he didn't have are business because there was usually between 4 of us and 4 to 6 girls with us. But he fucked that up on his own. Also for those that know he has diabetes and had stopped drinking. Well he is back saucing pretty good again, I new that wouldn't last! From Bonys we headed over to Cabo de palo (sp?) restaurant catey corner from Armitrade Hotel, its pricey but I like it. I always sit outside and we had a big pitcher of Sangria and some steaks. (300, 000 with tip) We then head over to Olympica and pick up some water beer cereal milk etc. Then we start walking back to the apartment and as we approach the apartment sure enough there are some girls lingering around. A couple of the guys take the supplies up to the Penhouse and 2 of us stay down to chat up the girls the best we can with are limited spanish. I am not positive on the names but one is like Paula and the other is Roche? Paula says she can call a couple more friends over and we agree on 80, 000 peso for a couple hours each, but first we have to check out the other girls she is going to call over. Both Paula and Roche are nice, then a girl called gissete comes up and I take her, she is on the dark side, about 20 years old and is the littlest girl I have ever been with! One hand could palm her ass. We head up to the Penhouse and of course they love it, we have a security camera that looks directley at the front desk, so when Paula friends arrive we can see them nicely. There are two of them Claudia and Tatiana again not positive on the names but I am close. So security calls and we say send them up. So now there are 4 of us and 5 of them there all nice. I leave it up to my buds on what to do and take gissete to the cuzzi where she loved it (first she got a showere in my room) whe blew me like there was no tomorrow, some of my friends came out to the cuzzi with there girls and I headed to my room and had a great extended session with G. Gave her 100, 000 instead of 80, 000. It was more then worth it and it was now around 7:30pm Sent her on her way and took a nap till 1AM.

We all got showered and dressed, nice jeans, hip shirts (no not my helado shirt that you busted my balls about you know who you are) and a nice pair of shoes! Dressing well and being well groomed goes along way with these girls. I don't care what you think, treat them like working girls and you will be treated like a working girl. Treat them nice and you will be well treated. You can take that to the bank! By the way all the girls during the day had a great time with us and my one buddy kept Paula and brought her to the club and also left with her. I picked up 2 girls tonight, I would say they were 8's early 20's and believe it or not I didn't find out till the next day they were cousins, and I mean kissing cousins! 200, 000 each all night. I had a blast! We didn't awake next day untill about 12 noon and I took them to beach. All my buds also had great girls also. It was a great first day.

We are now on the second day and we headed to beach, I got my two girls and I swear I cannot remember either ones name? I thinks the brunette was Vanessa but I am not positive, we eat lunch at Requisimo and head down to beach in front of El bony. We get massages from Luce Marina who I adore and gives a great Massage for 40, 000 peso. 2 of my buds got girls and 1 of my friends is Solo, his girl went home. Another great day and the girls go on there way. My one friend still is with Paula. I go home and take a nap and get ready for night 2!

Wake up around midnight again and we all head out. Keep in mind my buddy in 902 always comes up to are penhouse and we make drinks to walk down to the bar with. Also 902 man is still with Paula who has been bringing him treats. To keep him happy and she is indulging in the treats with him, so there all more then happy! She is not the best looking girl but is treating him well and ad in the treats (girls) she is bringing him on the side he has nothing but a smile on his face. This night I meat a girl I had a major problem with on one of my trips, though I think it was of my own doing, (do to some heavy drug and alcohol use) so we never got to play. Well this night we make up and I been wanting to have this girl since I fucked things up with her months ago. We all grab girls and head back to PH, this was after drinking 2 large bottles of Medellin Rum at LDV with tip 350, 000 My buddy took Vanessa this night (the girl I had the previous night but her cousin was home) We all had a great night. Now keep in mind my girl has tattoos like a gang member (probably is or was in a gang do to the knuckle tats) and when I tell my buds, who all know the story of the problem I had with her months ago they are all a little scared and learry of her. I am not going to mention her name, though I know it very well, she turned out to be a really great person. I ended up keeping her most of the trip and had a great time with her. I would take her to the beach and such and then when she would go home for the night I would grab a street girl to play with for a few hours to keep things lively because my gang member girl was not into me being with other girls. She was alot of fun and also got me the best see and m for the littliest money I have ever paid, my friends now loved her too! We got a bag of pot creepa (size wise it was about 5 inch long 3 inch high and and 1 thick, I mean alot of pot) for 40 us dollars and let me tell you this shit fucked us all up big time.

We end up taking all the girls to the beach today and decide to keep them for the night so we don't have to go to LDV tonight, which will be are 3rd night. Great day on the beach! The girls all leave later in the day and we all decide to meet at the PH at around 9pm (my nap will be short today) on the way back I pick up a girl named something like Paulow? Took her up and had a great hour and a half for 100, 000 before I went to sleep. Had about 3 hour nap and my friends woke me up and I grabbed a shower, dressed the girls started filtering in! We were partying while hanging out, my one buddys friend did not show up, so Paula called one of her friends and off we went old city. We had a few drinks at Cafe Del Mar, We ate at a small italian restaurantin the walled city but I can't remember the name, then off to Mr Babbillas where we all had a great time. Back to the PH around 2am, everybody got naked between the cuzzi and bedrooms and it was a fun party night. No a great Party Night! The next day which I believe is the 4 day (Saturday) we sent all the girls home this day and took it easy. Told them we would see them at LDV tonight. We all we to beach and hung out talked to more girls etc. I went home and got a good nap and we headed out around 11:30 Saturday night.

To be continued!

i tried posting a report earlier. but it go lost in the ozone.

i'm not prepared to go into as much detail as you seem to want. but i will share this. obviously i don't do all of those things you mention. $150. 00 usd would not last long. i picked up one girl on the beach, i paid $60. 00 usd.

i seldom take on more than one girl a day. no i do not drink all day. but i usually have some wine in the afternoon.

i rent a nice apt, and i like to spend the hot hours of the afternoon there. so i usually make my own lunch. i have eaten at riquisimos, a seafood place in gethsemeni and places in the old city it's just not my stile to walk down the street hemorrhaging money.

[quote=black hawk69; 1128097]speedbump, i have some questions for you if you do not mind answering them:

could you break down for us your one hundred fifty dollars a day?

do you party on the beach at all during day, buying beers, water, juice, liquor, massages, maybe a manicure or pedicure, maybe buy a couple of souveniers.

do you rent a carpa, chair, or table?

do you order food on the beach, or buy anything from any of the vendors?

do you have an female company during the daytime hours, and if so, what type of money do you give to the girls?

do you go out at night to eat at any of the finer restaurants, or exactly where do you go and eat?

do you use taxis for transportation, and if so how much do you spend per day for a taxi?

do you buy food, refreshments for your apartment?

when you go out at night, do you just buy one or two drinks for the night?

i am curious as to how you are able to get by on one hundred fifty dollars a day, when you are giving the girl from elektra around eighty dollars of it. what do you do for entertainment outside of going to elektra, and what is the cost breakdown for the rest of your seventy dollars you spend daily?

your kindness in responding to my questions will be greatly appreciated! [/quote]

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred;1128199]I am young (24) and workout and play sports regularly. I can't imagine their being many young (20's) good looking gringos mongering in Cartagena Colombia. So I'm sure ill have a leg up when I walk into the joint ...[/QUOTE]You sound simply amazing!

I'm sure you'll be the hit of the town.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69; 1128370]Tell me what girls want to go out with a penniless gringo who stays in a hostal? You have sixty five dollars a day to spend, but your lodging and transportation has to come out of that as well. A beer in the discos such as Tu Candela, Cafe Havana, Cafe del Mar, Mr. Babillas is anywhere from 6000 to 8000 pesos. Yes, the discos I mentioned have a cover charge of 20, 000 pesos.

I still think you should get Nibu Rafael to join you, as he is the best at getting by on the cheap, and you two can share expenses. Do a search for his name on here, or checkout his thread here on the Colombia board, though he does not post on it very much. I encourage you to send him a personal message.

Have fun[/QUOTE]A girl will want to spend time with a young early 20's white good looking american. As I'm sure that is not something they see and talk to regularly. What girl wants to go out with an old mongering sex tourist thats old enough to be their dad? They don't, they just do it for the money and the freebies that a girl receives when accompanying a monger.

So I can expect to spend about 20 bucks at the main expensive discos in CTG (cover and 3 beers)

I'm hoping my trip is like my recent Costa Rican trip. Girl invites me back to her apartment and I smash that for a couple of days! Hot 20 yr old grl with nice real tits and plump ass. My spanish is better now soo that will come in handy.

Do these places except credit cards or just cash?

[QUOTE=You Can; 1128368]Here is my report on CTG. I might have to do this report two fold if I can't finish it all today. I really don't think I have much to add, but hell I will write it anyway. First off I didn't really take any pictures, although most of the girls were more then willing to allow me. (I have my own personal reasons for this)

Here is a quick question before I get started. I was just wandering what you guys think of the girls taking pictures of us with them in the pictures and without. I was with 3 other guys and we took girls to the beach and restaurants almost everyday and they were all camera crazy! They took pictures of us left and right on the beach, hugging, laying around the apartment, in the Jaquizzi, etc. A few of my buddys were a little worried about this but it didn't bother me, they were like these girls could blackmail us, I just don't think so, all the girls we had were all really kool and some we kept longer then others but we treated them all well. Just would like a little feedback on this.

I will start with the first day and how I like to roll. We flew out of Atlantic city (spirit) cost of flight with all big front seats and carry on luggage fees was 585. 00 round trip. Got there at 5 am and drank about 4 bloody marys. 2hr and 10 minute flight to Ft. Lauderdale and three white wines on the plane later, we land in FLL. We pick up 4 bottles of Baileys. 4 Patron. 4 chevas regal. 4 bacardi. 2 drinks each in the airport and on to Cartagena. (2. 5hr flight) we arrive in CTG at around 1:30 I head right to the mac machine in the airport and grab 800, 000peso and a beer. I already had 600, 000 peso on me from last trip, so I am good for a couple of days and I got change for the cabby from the beer. We get 2 cabs for 15, 000 peso each to edificio playa mar where me and 2 buddys are staying in Penhouse and are friend is staying in 902.

This is my second year in the penhouse and you can figure on spending 300 to 350 us per night. Maybe if you are a hard negotiator you can do better then 300. I don't know. At 300. Its 100. Us per man, I was happy with that. Its a great place with a Jaquizzi and plenty of room, a great party place! My buddy in 902 paid 75. Us which we could probably get for 65. I didn't really like 902 but my buddy was happy with it. I have stayed in 301 and 801 and perfer them to 902 but they were not available. Now we are all unpacked and all have a nice buzz from both liquor and pills, for old fucks we can party with the best of them!

We hit the streets around 2:30. We all have come to an agreement we are not dealing with Tonys bullshit on this trip and decide we will spend are time in front of El Bonys, where I always get treated good from that establishment. Everybody knows me there and they have never paded the bill and appreciate the big tips we give them. I only use the chair vendor in front of Bonys to get me my chairs and cabana about 8chairs and 2 lounge chairs. 20, 000 plus a 10, 000 tip, nothing else, I walk up and get drinks at Bonys and the staff at Bonys carry down any food we order, which can be extensive because these little colombian girls can eat like crazy! We don't mind buying it because these girls clean there plates like it was there last meal! Ok getting back to leaving the apartment, we hit the street and start walking towards the beach. We hit the Farmacia and buy about 20 boxes of 4 cialis each at 3000 peso per box of 4. On are last day we found a place where we could buy it for 8000 per box for 4 pills, this is the cheapest I have ever found it and we bought a total of 150 pills to take home that last day. Keep in mind this is generic 50mg pills. I take one in the morning and one in the evening and my dick stays hard as a fucking rock when called upon, and keep in mind I'm drunk on pills, see, m, and liquor. (I am trying to be as open as possible) from there we say Hello, to the guys at Restaurant Requisimo where we often eat and then head down to Bonys. Tony must of gotten word we were down there and came down and said Hello, and asked if we were coming to his beach, which by the way is practically washed away, its less then a 1/3 of the size it use to be! I politely told him we would not be on his area of the beach at all because we were tired of the argument at the end of everyday. Believe me we would have an agurment everyday and it was not because of us, a bill that should have been say 150, 000 always ended up 300, 000 so enough was enough last year. As the week went on, he was sick that he didn't have are business because there was usually between 4 of us and 4 to 6 girls with us. But he fucked that up on his own. Also for those that know he has diabetes and had stopped drinking. Well he is back saucing pretty good again, I new that wouldn't last! From Bonys we headed over to Cabo de palo (sp?) restaurant catey corner from Armitrade Hotel, its pricey but I like it. I always sit outside and we had a big pitcher of Sangria and some steaks. (300, 000 with tip) We then head over to Olympica and pick up some water beer cereal milk etc. Then we start walking back to the apartment and as we approach the apartment sure enough there are some girls lingering around. A couple of the guys take the supplies up to the Penhouse and 2 of us stay down to chat up the girls the best we can with are limited spanish. I am not positive on the names but one is like Paula and the other is Roche? Paula says she can call a couple more friends over and we agree on 80, 000 peso for a couple hours each, but first we have to check out the other girls she is going to call over. Both Paula and Roche are nice, then a girl called gissete comes up and I take her, she is on the dark side, about 20 years old and is the littlest girl I have ever been with! One hand could palm her ass. We head up to the Penhouse and of course they love it, we have a security camera that looks directley at the front desk, so when Paula friends arrive we can see them nicely. There are two of them Claudia and Tatiana again not positive on the names but I am close. So security calls and we say send them up. So now there are 4 of us and 5 of them there all nice. I leave it up to my buds on what to do and take gissete to the cuzzi where she loved it (first she got a showere in my room) whe blew me like there was no tomorrow, some of my friends came out to the cuzzi with there girls and I headed to my room and had a great extended session with G. Gave her 100, 000 instead of 80, 000. It was more then worth it and it was now around 7:30pm Sent her on her way and took a nap till 1AM.

We all got showered and dressed, nice jeans, hip shirts (no not my helado shirt that you busted my balls about you know who you are) and a nice pair of shoes! Dressing well and being well groomed goes along way with these girls. I don't care what you think, treat them like working girls and you will be treated like a working girl. Treat them nice and you will be well treated. You can take that to the bank! By the way all the girls during the day had a great time with us and my one buddy kept Paula and brought her to the club and also left with her. I picked up 2 girls tonight, I would say they were 8's early 20's and believe it or not I didn't find out till the next day they were cousins, and I mean kissing cousins! 200, 000 each all night. I had a blast! We didn't awake next day untill about 12 noon and I took them to beach. All my buds also had great girls also. It was a great first day.

We are now on the second day and we headed to beach, I got my two girls and I swear I cannot remember either ones name? I thinks the brunette was Vanessa but I am not positive, we eat lunch at Requisimo and head down to beach in front of El bony. We get massages from Luce Marina who I adore and gives a great Massage for 40, 000 peso. 2 of my buds got girls and 1 of my friends is Solo, his girl went home. Another great day and the girls go on there way. My one friend still is with Paula. I go home and take a nap and get ready for night 2!

Wake up around midnight again and we all head out. Keep in mind my buddy in 902 always comes up to are penhouse and we make drinks to walk down to the bar with. Also 902 man is still with Paula who has been bringing him treats. To keep him happy and she is indulging in the treats with him, so there all more then happy! She is not the best looking girl but is treating him well and ad in the treats (girls) she is bringing him on the side he has nothing but a smile on his face. This night I meat a girl I had a major problem with on one of my trips, though I think it was of my own doing, (do to some heavy drug and alcohol use) so we never got to play. Well this night we make up and I been wanting to have this girl since I fucked things up with her months ago. We all grab girls and head back to PH, this was after drinking 2 large bottles of Medellin Rum at LDV with tip 350, 000 My buddy took Vanessa this night (the girl I had the previous night but her cousin was home) We all had a great night. Now keep in mind my girl has tattoos like a gang member (probably is or was in a gang do to the knuckle tats) and when I tell my buds, who all know the story of the problem I had with her months ago they are all a little scared and learry of her. I am not going to mention her name, though I know it very well, she turned out to be a really great person. I ended up keeping her most of the trip and had a great time with her. I would take her to the beach and such and then when she would go home for the night I would grab a street girl to play with for a few hours to keep things lively because my gang member girl was not into me being with other girls. She was alot of fun and also got me the best see and m for the littliest money I have ever paid, my friends now loved her too! We got a bag of pot creepa (size wise it was about 5 inch long 3 inch high and and 1 thick, I mean alot of pot) for 40 us dollars and let me tell you this shit fucked us all up big time.

We end up taking all the girls to the beach today and decide to keep them for the night so we don't have to go to LDV tonight, which will be are 3rd night. Great day on the beach! The girls all leave later in the day and we all decide to meet at the PH at around 9pm (my nap will be short today) on the way back I pick up a girl named something like Paulow? Took her up and had a great hour and a half for 100, 000 before I went to sleep. Had about 3 hour nap and my friends woke me up and I grabbed a shower, dressed the girls started filtering in! We were partying while hanging out, my one buddys friend did not show up, so Paula called one of her friends and off we went old city. We had a few drinks at Cafe Del Mar, We ate at a small italian restaurantin the walled city but I can't remember the name, then off to Mr Babbillas where we all had a great time. Back to the PH around 2am, everybody got naked between the cuzzi and bedrooms and it was a fun party night. No a great Party Night! The next day which I believe is the 4 day (Saturday) we sent all the girls home this day and took it easy. Told them we would see them at LDV tonight. We all we to beach and hung out talked to more girls etc. I went home and got a good nap and we headed out around 11:30 Saturday night.

To be continued![/QUOTE]Great report YouCan. Just one word of advise, be careful how much cripa you smoke. The reason most of this stuff seems to be the best pot you ever smoked is because it is laced with chemicals to increase the high and being Colombia who knows what kind of crap they are putting in there.

well here goes, i want to finish this report up! so its saturday and i had a great nap. we got up around 10pm or so and made up a few drinks. we probabaly left around 10:30 i originally said 11:30 but i know now that it was earlier then that because this saturday we skipped ldv but would have went if we didn't have any luck with are new plan for the night. we ended going over to the walled city that was jumping. we grabbed a table, at a place right to the right of the hardrock and had some drinks. there were alot of nice women walking around. very friendly, my one buddy who is half nuts was up and dancing. keep in mind this area has all tables on the street and is outside, with salsa music playing and many many people walking around. low and behold within 10 minutes my buddy had a group of girls dancing with him that ended up back at are table. after some drinks and fun, not long, we ended up taking them into the hardrock for some apps. this time there were six of them! unless some peeled off there were 2 of us that were going to end up with 2 girls each! after some appts we went back out and had 1 or 2 more drinks, by this time the girls had kind of decided who liked who and i ended up with 2 girls. we went back to the ph and carried on the party till about 5am. i honestly don't think these girls had done this alot, because they had no clue of the pricing. they were between 50, 000 and 100, 000 which in my mind was a great deal for these girls. all between 18 and 22. i feel safe to say they were all maybe 8's or better. but i don't know, i think it depends what you like. attitude wise they were 10's. we ended up giving them all 100, 000 in the morning and breakfast. my girls names were sofia and anya? they were not into each othere but worked me over good, i had a great time. we told them were we would be on the beach on sunday, but ended up just going to a small bar and drinking and people watching and listening to are music that the bar owner hooked up to an ipod connection. so while listening to the likes of the rolling stones and such and having people walk by and think where the fuck did all this american music come from that was blasting away and very audible to the sidewalk we had a great afternoon.

sunday late afternoon, we called sofia and asked them if they wanted to come out for the night. she was a little pissed because some of them did go to the beach and we never showed up, so we told them if they came out tonight we would make it up to them. she said fine and asked where. so we told them we would meet them at the same salsa place in the walled city. she asked if we were really going to show up and we promised we would. i took a short nap and we headed out after showering. we were a little late but so were they. this time there was only 4, my one girl anya didn't show up but 4 did and that was perfect, we drank and danced in that area of the walled city and then at at arepa pues in boca. we had another great night and sent these girls on there way in the morning.

monday we took it easy on the drinking and hung out late at the apartment. went to ldv mondany and tuesday nights. i kept my crazy tattoo girl the rest of the trip. that about wraps it up. we pretty much went the beach, hung out and had a great trip.

hope some of this helps my fellow travelers. i hate the word mongers!

Of course I am. I pay women to sleep with me.

I was walking out the door of a mall with my friend and somebody was asking for a donation, he said Tom why didn't you give anything and I said I'm a sex tourist. I don't have the right to pretend I care.

If Karma's like you say we're all doomed for going to Colombia and trying to take advantage of poor defenseless colombianas.

Tar-heel will have a great time either way because he's doing the same thing everyone here has done and thats read ISG very carefully and weigh fact from fiction.

BlackHawk is coming across as a bit harsh, but he's essentially right. As far as the newbies go, why would you argue about the experience of somewhere you've never been to guys who know the place inside and out? I just got to shake my head sometimes. The experience will be yours once you get there. Make of it what you will, and maybe even take advise with a grain of salt, but anyone who's been there knows more than you do, even if they're idiots. Once you've been there then you can open your mouth.

As for how much a guy spends, well, who cares? No matter where I go there's always some ******* bragging about how much he spent, and those who brag about what cheap-asses they are and how they spent almost nothing. They wear either extreme like a badge of honor. It doesn't matter. Spend what you're comfortable with, and plan your excursions accordingly. As long as you have a realistic idea of what things cost then what you do or don't do is up to you. The value on the information is knowing that cost. The experienced guys once again prevail. Just don't let anyone tell you that you have to follow the same lifestyle as they do.

Now, as for me, I've been around quite a bit, and am going on a last minute trip to Cartagena, which I've never been to before. I know Medellin and Bogota, but not Cartagena, so while I don't need spanish lessons, etiquette lessons or help finding a place to stay I would love it if Black Hawk or one of you other guys could help out with that list mentioned earlier. I would be happy to reciprocate with any knowledge I have (sometimes considerable) relating to Peru, Costa Rica, Cuba, Thailand, Mexico etc.

And as for the guy who said non-spanish speaking guys can get by easily in Medellin, he's on crack. Unless you're in the Mansion or the Castillo your hopeless ass is going to have a hard time getting by there, unless you hang with others who do. Same goes for Bogota.

[QUOTE=Tom Power;1128530]

I was walking out the door of a mall with my friend and somebody was asking for a donation, he said Tom why didn't you give anything and I said I'm a sex tourist. I don't have the right to pretend I care.

[/QUOTE]

Huhhh? What?? That makes no sense to me at all.
I'm glad I don't feel like that.


[QUOTE=Tom Power;1128530]... If Karma's like you say we're all doomed for going to Colombia and trying to take advantage of poor defenseless colombianas ...[/QUOTE]I like to believe that it's more in how one has treated these 'poor defenseless colombianas' while adventuring in Colombia, and not just group us all together as 'doomed'.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1128446]A girl will want to spend time with a young early 20's white good looking american. As I'm sure that is not something they see and talk to regularly. What girl wants to go out with an old mongering sex tourist thats old enough to be their dad? They don't, they just do it for the money and the freebies that a girl receives when accompanying a monger.

So I can expect to spend about 20 bucks at the main expensive discos in CTG (cover and 3 beers)

I'm hoping my trip is like my recent Costa Rican trip. Girl invites me back to her apartment and I smash that for a couple of days! Hot 20 yr old grl with nice real tits and plump ass. My spanish is better now soo that will come in handy.

Do these places except credit cards or just cash? [/QUOTE]Hell, sounds to me that you will not have to use either as I'm sure the girls will be glad to treat you as you are such a rare find for them.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred;1128446]A girl will want to spend time with a young early 20's white good looking american. As I'm sure that is not something they see and talk to regularly. What girl wants to go out with an old mongering sex tourist thats old enough to be their dad? They don't, they just do it for the money and the freebies that a girl receives when accompanying a monger ...[/QUOTE]Again I say, you are truly amazing, the chicks are going to be all over you brother!

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1128446] ... So I can expect to spend about 20 bucks at the main expensive discos in CTG (cover and 3 beers)

Do these places except credit cards or just cash? [/QUOTE]I think the young, hot white guys get in and drink for free :)

Or maybe Mr Gault is right ...

[QUOTE=John Gault;1128590]Hell, sounds to me that you will not have to use either as I'm sure the girls will be glad to treat you as you are such a rare find for them.[/QUOTE]

Re: Tony.

[quote]I politely told him we would not be on his area of the beach at all because we were tired of the argument at the end of everyday. Believe me we would have an agurment everyday and it was not because of us, a bill that should have been say 150, 000 always ended up 300, 000 so enough was enough last year.[/quote]Like the tides, moon and stars, some things seem to never change. Tony is one of them. Same old same old. I was tired of his BS the first overpriced drink I had.

Tony had cojones. He would call on women you were already talking to on the beach and want a cut.

[quote]A girl will want to spend time with a young early 20's white good looking american. As I'm sure that is not something they see and talk to regularly. What girl wants to go out with an old mongering sex tourist thats old enough to be their dad? They don't, they just do it for the money and the freebies that a girl receives when accompanying a monger.[/quote]No, they never see that. Just ask the Israeli backpackers or LDV regulars. You have an open vista in the I'm-a-young-stud-pay-nothing category.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1128597]Again I say, you are truly amazing, the chicks are going to be all over you brother!

I think the young, hot white guys get in and drink for free.

Or maybe Mr Gault is right.[/QUOTE]Sound bitter Ricker.

Your money works just as good if not better.

[QUOTE=Talion;1128532].....As for how much a guy spends, well, who cares? No matter where I go there's always some ******* bragging about how much he spent, and those who brag about what cheap-asses they are and how they spent almost nothing. They wear either extreme like a badge of honor. It doesn't matter. Spend what you're comfortable with, and plan your excursions accordingly. As long as you have a realistic idea of what things cost then what you do or don't do is up to you. The value on the information is knowing that cost. The experienced guys once again prevail. Just don't let anyone tell you that you have to follow the same lifestyle as they do....[/QUOTE]Tar Heel, I've clipped a part of a post for emphasis and to express that I very much agree with what this guy has said. Be yourself, have your own experience, ask questions and learn, but be leery of the extreme / obnoxious guys who want to forcefully or aggressively tell you how to spend your time, money, etc.

I will tell you that a $1, 000 budget for two weeks in Cartagena and then Santa Marta is not how I would choose to spend a vacation now that I'm twice your age, but I do think it can be done by a 24-year old guy as long as you don't mind doing without some modern conveniences, eating on the cheap, etc. As to accomodations given your stated budget, IMO you'd be wise to share expenses with a wingman or stick with the hostels (backpacker type accomodations).

IMO you'll want to befriend other 20-somethings, be they from the States, Europe, Colombia or otherwise. You should be able to be part of a different scene than most of the 35 to 60 year old guys who frequent the Northern Coast of Colombia.

Since you've already shown that you are spending time reading about and researching Cartagena, learning some of the culture and speaking more Spanish, etc, the best advice I can give you is this: Yes, you are a 24 year old young man from the States who has many advantages in life, but you'd be best served in your travels and your exploits with Colombianas to eat a large dose of humble pie before your plane lands in CTG. You'll score with some chicas and have some fun the way you are now, but IMO your level of success and enjoyment will increase tenfold if you go down there with some humility. IMO arrogance will be your downfall if you take it to CTG with you.

I wish you safe fun in your travel to and within Colombia. Be genuine and have a good time being yourself doing what you like to do.

HT

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1128468]Great report YouCan. Just one word of advise, be careful how much cripa you smoke. The reason most of this stuff seems to be the best pot you ever smoked is because it is laced with chemicals to increase the high and being Colombia who knows what kind of crap they are putting in there.[/QUOTE]I agree that was a great report from YouCan; a fun read that provided some fantastic visuals to anyone who has spent a little time in CTG, stayed at the PM PH, etc. I for one would like to see more "field" reports from others like these two from YouCan. Seems like many times there will be guys asking questions here as they plan their trip, but then many of them never give anything back by posting about their trip.

As to cripa containing chemicals; I have been told that exact same thing by more than one Colombian, but each time it came from a Colombian who had never smoked cripa (they only smoked the brown or none at all). I've also been told by some more experienced Colombian tokers that the genesis for the belief that cripa has been laced with chemicals stems from those who aren't used to smoking weed that was grown with a purpose. I have been told that people in the USA heard the same accusation (laced with chemicals) in the 70's and early 80's as the popularity of domestically grown sinsimella began to reach the masses. Now you may be right and I obviously can't say for certain, but I just wanted to pass pass on what I've heard from some experienced tokers, LOL.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1128446]What girl wants to go out with an old mongering sex tourist thats old enough to be their dad? They don't, they just do it for the money and the freebies that a girl receives when accompanying a monger.

So I can expect to spend about 20 bucks at the main expensive discos in CTG (cover and 3 beers)

Do these places except credit cards or just cash? [/QUOTE]Still doing research, officer? You know girls can't resist a man in uniform. Bring yours to show off.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1128622]Tar Heel, I've clipped a part of a post for emphasis and to express that I very much agree with what this guy has said. Be yourself, have your own experience, ask questions and learn, but be leery of the extreme / obnoxious guys who want to forcefully or aggressively tell you how to spend your time, money, etc.

I will tell you that a $1, 000 budget for two weeks in Cartagena and then Santa Marta is not how I would choose to spend a vacation now that I'm twice your age, but I do think it can be done by a 24-year old guy as long as you don't mind doing without some modern conveniences, eating on the cheap, etc. As to accomodations given your stated budget, IMO you'd be wise to share expenses with a wingman or stick with the hostels (backpacker type accomodations).

IMO you'll want to befriend other 20-somethings, be they from the States, Europe, Colombia or otherwise. You should be able to be part of a different scene than most of the 35 to 60 year old guys who frequent the Northern Coast of Colombia.

Since you've already shown that you are spending time reading about and researching Cartagena, learning some the culture and speaking more Spanish, etc, the best advice I can give you is this: Yes, you are a 24 year old young man from the States who has many advantages in life, but you'd be best served in your travels and your exploits with Colombianas to eat a large dose of humble pie before your plane lands in CTG. You'll score with some chicas and have some fun the way you are now, but IMO your level of success and enjoyment will increase tenfold if you go down there with some humility. IMO arrogance will be your downfall if you take it to CTG with you.

I wish you safe fun in your travel to and within Colombia. Be genuine and have a good time being yourself doing what you like to do.

HT[/QUOTE]Trust me, I got some humble pie in San Jose. I didn't take into account just how touristy Costa Rica was with guys of all ages and backgrounds. Granted I never tried or asked a girl to go home with me for free, them chicks just never came straight up to me and offered to go home for free like they did in Brazil.

I'm going to Colombia because I love latin culture, the people (women) , the music. As long as I come back in one piece thats all that matters. I'm going to have fun, regardless. Obviously I'm hoping to hook up with about 3-7 girls pro or non pro. But I can settle for getting one authentic colombian flag.

I'm thinking my best bet would be to def stay in a cheap backpackers accomidations during the week and get a decent room for the weekend. If I meet a grl that is DTF during the week we can just get a motel room. Def conserve my bread during the week and use the extra saved money to do it comfortably on the weekend.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1128616]Sound bitter Ricker.

Your money works just as good if not better. [/QUOTE]Hahaha, I am so bitter. If only I had your good looks and arrogance. Oh the dream, oh my bitterness.

Guys like you eventually learn that a little humility goes a long way.

I just hope I wasn't so 'bobo' at your age.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1128646]Trust me, I got some humble pie in San Jose. I didn't take into account just how touristy Costa Rica was with guys of all ages and backgrounds. Granted I never tried or asked a girl to go home with me for free, them chicks just never came straight up to me and offered to go home for free like they did in Brazil.

I'm going to Colombia because I love latin culture, the people (women) , the music. As long as I come back in one piece thats all that matters. I'm going to have fun, regardless. Obviously I'm hoping to hook up with about 3-7 girls pro or non pro. But I can settle for getting one authentic colombian flag.

I'm thinking my best bet would be to def stay in a cheap backpackers accomidations during the week and get a decent room for the weekend. If I meet a grl that is DTF during the week we can just get a motel room. Def conserve my bread during the week and use the extra saved money to do it comfortably on the weekend.[/QUOTE]Dude I'm glad I'm not young and handsome and have to travel on your budget. I'd much rather be old, fat and ugly and not have to watch every nickel I spend, plus I'm guaranteed to get laid a hell of a lot more than you.

If you did your research you would know that if you use your credit card in the bars, restaurants and tiendas for a week you will get fucked big time and not in a good way.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1128774]Hahaha, I am so bitter. If only I had your good looks and arrogance. Oh the dream, oh my bitterness.

Guys like you eventually learn that a little humility goes a long way.

I just hope I wasn't so 'bobo' at your age. [/QUOTE]Respect and kindness go even further.

All I did was come on the forum in a friendly manner simply asking for advice, not bragging about how I was going to kill the town with my charm and goodlooks. It wasnt till after some Ahole bitter posters attacked me that I had to point out the obvious differences between me and conventional sex mongers.

But its all good, I don't hold it against yall. And I'm still going to report back with a data sheet for people that could benefit from it.

I'm done dealing with you Ricker. Que tiene una buen dia.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1128776]Dude I'm glad I'm not young and handsome and have to travel on your budget. I'd much rather be old, fat and ugly and not have to watch every nickel I spend, plus I'm guaranteed to get laid a hell of a lot more than you.

If you did your research you would know that if you use your credit card in the bars, restaurants and tiendas for a week you will get fucked big time and not in a good way.[/QUOTE]To each his own. I just don't like paying and fucking chicks that have already serviced 4 guys that day. Much rather find a non pro to hook up with. On top of that I could cut my trip to one week and get laid everyday (paying if I choose to) Soo I will take being young with options, over old, fat and ugly. But like I said to each his own.

And like you mentioned I wouldn't use my card in a club or bar. Only place I'd use a card would be for a room or something. But I plan on sticking to my budget soo I won't need it.

I am seriously thinking about taking a trip down to Cartagena (sometime in May) for some "fun" and sun. I've read through the Cartagena forum for the last year and half but have seen very little on the subject of golf. My second interest after women. I've been to Thailand a number of times and I love the women, beaches and golf there. It's the perfect place for me to vacation but it's so damn far. Because of the distance (East coast of USA) I usually stay for at least two weeks at a time but my current job is making that difficult. So I'm looking for an alternative that's closer to home where I can spend a week and then head back home.

Are there many, if any, courses close to Centro? Do mongers ever get together to play golf or meet in any of the bars in Cartagena to set up matches? What's the best way to get to the courses. Rent a car or taxi? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

All the talk of you handsome rich bastards going to Cartagena has me 2nd guessing my trip there in a couple days-

Really? Nope! LOL

Every man for themselves.

Nice trip reports guys-I will be in BAQ for Carnaval maybe I will scrounge up a pic.

I'll be down there on the 15th. Anybody else going to be around? I'll buy at least the first beer. .

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69; 1128685]Please Tar Heel Bred, post a legitimate pic of yourself so we know what you are talking about.

Much appreciated! [/QUOTE]Ok Ok. But just one.

Am I smokin' hot or what?

Tar Heel.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1128859]Ok Ok. But just one.

Am I smokin' hot or what?

Tar Heel. [/QUOTE]Hahaha, I just couldn't resist.

Thought it was time for just a little fun humor.

Happy travels to todo el mundo!

Especially to Tar Heel :)

[QUOTE=Thumbs Up; 1128805]I am seriously thinking about taking a trip down to Cartagena (sometime in May) for some "fun" and sun. I've read through the Cartagena forum for the last year and half but have seen very little on the subject of golf. My second interest after women. I've been to Thailand a number of times and I love the women, beaches and golf there. It's the perfect place for me to vacation but it's so damn far. Because of the distance (East coast of USA) I usually stay for at least two weeks at a time but my current job is making that difficult. So I'm looking for an alternative that's closer to home where I can spend a week and then head back home.

Are there many, if any, courses close to Centro? Do mongers ever get together to play golf or meet in any of the bars in Cartagena to set up matches? What's the best way to get to the courses. Rent a car or taxi? Any information would be greatly appreciated. [/QUOTE]I can only think of one golf course in Cartagena. It looks nice, but not sure if it is private or not. I am not sure how many guys would like to play golf in the heat and humidity because at times, I start to sweat getting off of the plane. If you decide top play, start at the first sign of daylight and get through by 8 am.

[QUOTE=Otiers;1128928]I can only think of one golf course in Cartagena. It looks nice, but not sure if it is private or not. I am not sure how many guys would like to play golf in the heat and humidity because at times, I start to sweat getting off of the plane. If you decide top play, start at the first sign of daylight and get through by 8 am.[/QUOTE]Otiers,

I appreciate the input. Thanks. I've lived in the American South and have golfed in Thailand numerous times so I'm used to playing in the heat and humidity. I would definitely use a cart and go early or late in the day. Basically, I'm looking for something to do in addition to the mongering. I'm not 25 anymore so going at it all day / every day is just not in the cards anymore. Viagra / cialis et al notwithstanding.

The first time I'm in Cartagena I'll do the usual site seeing stuff but that only goes so far. The beach is a good alternative and I will check it out but I understand the beaches in Cartagena are not so good and disappearing as well. You have to go beyond Catagena to find nice beaches? But being a golf-a-holic my first pick of activities after mongering is golf if that is possible.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred;1128446]A girl will want to spend time with a young early 20's white good looking american. As I'm sure that is not something they see and talk to regularly. What girl wants to go out with an old mongering sex tourist thats old enough to be their dad? They don't, they just do it for the money and the freebies that a girl receives when accompanying a monger.[/QUOTE]I have stayed out of your bantering because I try not to give attention to the insecure. I am in my fifties and a few pounds overweight (mostly due to working late hours and eating poorly) and still find that I can attract women of all ages because I show that I am interested in their opinions and lives. I have spent money on the young ones when I feel like it can help them or their child. I have been to their neighborhoods getting to know how they are made up inside. I can't bench press 300 lbs or run a 10K, but I can still be cordial and humble. It has gotten me far. I am married to a great Colombian woman and admit there was a time when our marriage would not survive the cultural difference and time apart. She is aware that during our separation, her young friends found their way into my apartment to talk, drink and have fun. It is hard for me to hide anything because I can be in town five minutes and word gets to her that I am in Laquito.

Us old guys know what we are doing and we are appreciated by these girls. I have had many visit me during the day just to listen to music and talk. I have gotten freebies not because of what they may later get out of me, but they just enjoy the company of an older man that has experienced life and has confidence. Sure I have paid girls also when I saw somebody I just could not resist. I have had girls come up to me on the street to meet me because their girlfriends tell them they enjoyed their time with me.

There will always be those that expect gifts and yes it may look strange to you to see some "old" man with a young girl on his arm. However, I find it strange tp see some young guy trying to get into a girls pants and then move on to the next. I would bet that when I return to Cartagena, I will have plenty of company when they know I am in town. However, it wil end in Bogota next week when my wife and stepson get their visas. I will be committed to just one person even though I have been given the green light to enjoy my time.

You might be a good kid and be fun to have a drink and shoot the breeze. So keep that same attitude with us "old" guys because you might find that we are fun to be with and the young girls see that in us also. If you will be in Cartagena in the middle of April, I will buy you a drink or two to help your budget.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1128795]Respect and kindness go even further.

All I did was come on the forum in a friendly manner simply asking for advice, not bragging about how I was going to kill the town with my charm and goodlooks. It wasnt till after some Ahole bitter posters attacked me that I had to point out the obvious differences between me and conventional sex mongers.

But its all good, I don't hold it against yall. And I'm still going to report back with a data sheet for people that could benefit from it.

I'm done dealing with you Ricker. Que tiene una buen dia. [/QUOTE]I do have to say, I agree with you and I do probably owe you an apology.

I was just jokin' around really.

After seeing the photos you posted of yourself, you remind me of some of my daughter's friends, and I see you as just a young man making an adventure to Colombia.
That's cool.

You're most likely a pretty good guy and I only wish you a happy, fun and safe adventure in Cartagena.

By the way, at your age, I could've eaten canned tuna fish or ravioli every night and slept on the floor of someone's apartment without a problem.

I'm sure you'll find ways to make your dollars (pesos) stretch too.

Like OTIERS just posted, if I bump into you in Cartagena, a couple cervezas on me too.

Hasta luego ...

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1128859]Ok Ok. But just one.

Am I smokin' hot or what? [/QUOTE]Damn Ricker, now I know why you're so popular with the ladies. And I (wrongly) figured it was your easy-going manner and Spanish / Portuguese language skills.

I hear conflicting anwers regarding the best place in Colombia for young 27 year old to party, Is it medelin or cartgena which is better for the women, stripclubs or overall parties? Any information will be appreciated.

Thanks,

School

[QUOTE=Schoolrumble; 1128973]I hear conflicting anwers regarding the best place in Colombia for young 27 year old to party, Is it medelin or cartgena which is better for the women, stripclubs or overall parties? Any information will be appreciated.

Thanks,

School[/QUOTE]From my intel Medellin has better nightlife. Although I think there is plenty of nightlife atleast on the weekends in all the major Colombian cities.

Bogota has hands down the best nightlife mon-thur. Cali is known for its partying as well.

[QUOTE=Otiers; 1128942]I have stayed out of your bantering because I try not to give attention to the insecure. I am in my fifties and a few pounds overweight (mostly due to working late hours and eating poorly) and still find that I can attract women of all ages because I show that I am interested in their opinions and lives. I have spent money on the young ones when I feel like it can help them or their child. I have been to their neighborhoods getting to know how they are made up inside. I can't bench press 300 lbs or run a 10K, but I can still be cordial and humble. It has gotten me far. I am married to a great Colombian woman and admit there was a time when our marriage would not survive the cultural difference and time apart. She is aware that during our separation, her young friends found their way into my apartment to talk, drink and have fun. It is hard for me to hide anything because I can be in town five minutes and word gets to her that I am in Laquito.

Us old guys know what we are doing and we are appreciated by these girls. I have had many visit me during the day just to listen to music and talk. I have gotten freebies not because of what they may later get out of me, but they just enjoy the company of an older man that has experienced life and has confidence. Sure I have paid girls also when I saw somebody I just could not resist. I have had girls come up to me on the street to meet me because their girlfriends tell them they enjoyed their time with me.

There will always be those that expect gifts and yes it may look strange to you to see some "old" man with a young girl on his arm. However, I find it strange tp see some young guy trying to get into a girls pants and then move on to the next. I would bet that when I return to Cartagena, I will have plenty of company when they know I am in town. However, it wil end in Bogota next week when my wife and stepson get their visas. I will be committed to just one person even though I have been given the green light to enjoy my time.

You might be a good kid and be fun to have a drink and shoot the breeze. So keep that same attitude with us "old" guys because you might find that we are fun to be with and the young girls see that in us also. If you will be in Cartagena in the middle of April, I will buy you a drink or two to help your budget.[/QUOTE]I can relate to you on that. Like I said I LOVE latin culture. I pretty much only listen to latin music now. I love meeting new people. I def plan on staying in touch with all the girls I meet and getting to know them on more than just a fuck and leave scenario.

Would love to have a beer with some fellow Gringos. Ill post on here on the day I'm going to go to the LDV. Which will prob be the 14th or 15th as I'm Going to party in Barranquilla on sat night. Then head to Santa Marta on Sunday.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred;1128814]No prob, here ya go.[/QUOTE]You do realize you just posted pictures of yourself and your face on a high-traffic website dedicated to paying women for sex? Not the smartest move there, buddy. If I were you, I would seriously consider taking them off. Other than that, I hope you have a good trip. Good luck.

PS. Roosh reader?

[QUOTE=BH Bound; 1129039]You do realize you just posted pictures of yourself and your face on a high-traffic website dedicated to paying women for sex? Not the smartest move there, buddy. If I were you, I would seriously consider taking them off. Other than that, I hope you have a good trip. Good luck.

PS. Roosh reader?[/QUOTE]God's Gift was in a givin' 'and' sharin' mood. Y'all jealous or sump'in?

No man with half a brain even thinks about embarking on this kind of adventure before the age of thirty, unless of course he can't get laid at home, or has the benefit of a military enlistment at the poor mans' college under his belt and knows what a real man is suposed to do.

As for everybody else who's talent has brought financial rewards (that weren't all robbed in divorces) : live the life.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1128984]From my intel Medellin has better nightlife. Although I think there is plenty of nightlife atleast on the weekends in all the major Colombian cities.

Bogota has hands down the best nightlife mon-thur. Cali is known for its partying as well. [/QUOTE]THB,

I took my son (18 yo) with me to Medellin this past Navidad. He is a big, good looking kid (6'2" 200

Lbs) and he had the time of his life. I speak Spanish and he studied with me in preparation for his trip. He is a courteous kid and was extremely well received by las Pasias! He will be returning this summer and can barely wait. Now he studies his Spanish eagerly whereas before I had to make him.

As others have already told you Cartagena is a much more expensive city than any other in Medellin

IMO and I have spent time in all the major ones. Best of luck on trip but you really are going to have to be extremely tight with your pesos. Regardless of wether you are young or old Colombianas still expect the man to pick up the tab for meals and drinks. If you are able to do this and in addition are charming and fun to hang out with than freebies enter the realm of possibility.

I understand your plans are already in place but your money would have went much further for you in any other ciudad.

I will be in Cartagena along with a Paisa amiga this month. If I run into you drinks and dinner on me.

Buena suerte

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1128969]Frickin old age really must have caught up to you now, Ricker is buying cervezas! (wink) Forget Cartagena, as I will not be there until the 10th of March, so come to San Andres and meet me and my Bogota friend in one of the Decamarons, as I want mine, and I am sure she will be right behind me in line, as she likes her cerveza even more than I do! (wink)[/QUOTE]Hey Hawk, the only problem with meeting up with you and your 'Bogota friend, is ya after seeing her fotos you sent me, I'd be drooling with jealousy watching you two smooch hahaha.

And the foto of her on the beach. Forget about it!
Congrats on meeting and winning over a beauty like her!

Have fun mi amigo!!

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred;1128814]No prob, here ya go.[/QUOTE]A guy asks for pictures of you and you deliver.

Hey man I wish you luck on your trip and I hope you enjoy yourself.

Hello, to all,

I was referred to this site from a former colleague. I've been reading and cramming as much info as possible to make my trip an easy transition.

So far I have found a treasure of knowledge and would like to thank all the members for sharing such valuable information!

Right now I'm in the process of finding an apartment through Mery or Juan for my upcoming March 28th trip.

Senior and experienced travelers perhaps could answer some questions on the night life? I'm mostly looking for P4P The 3 main places I keep hearing are LDV, Elektra, and Isis. Are there more than this? If so, where and when are the best times? Also, any information on Casa's would be appreciated.

I've read that Black Hawk69 has a valuable and current list of all of this but haven't been able to find it anywhere?

I'm getting excited and want to be as prepared as possible. Hoping to have a great time and being able to share all my experiences in Cartagena with everyone here.

BTW, I'm not handsome, rich, or young. Just an average Joe. Sorry no photos of me but will gladly post some of the beautiful chicas I hope to find!

The UNCW shirt makes me think we could share the same town Tar heel. Have fun, LDV is the place. Might see ya there. Mule

Couple photos of gifts from above while in Cartagena.

[QUOTE=Mule69;1129341]The UNCW shirt makes me think we could share the same town Tar heel. Have fun, LDV is the place. Might see ya there. Mule[/QUOTE]Wilmington is a beautiful little town. I have thought about retirement there although good property is getting very expensive there. All along the Carolina coast. THB looks a lot like my nephew and my god the women that kid has thrown away is unbelievable. Some of them look like Pamela Anderson did 20 years ago. Good luck to you THB. But if I were you I might want to have some sort of cash back up. Like a relative. You're cutting things mighty thin. And you never know what can happen.

Also most girls tell me they much prefer an older guy in there 40's or 50's to a young guy who is 20 to 25, as the young guys do not have the experience, or the conversation to stimulate them, plus they have no interest in someone who cannot even afford a decent place to say, or have some money to buy a few drinks. In other words, they do not like no peso gringos. Just relaying what I am told.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1128798]I will take being young with options, over old, fat and ugly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69; 1129735]As I stated previously, when you are as blessed as I am with good looks and conversation, the girls flock to you, working girls and non-working girls alike. It does get old after a while, because I enjoy the hunt as much as the capture, but it is what it is. Believe it or not, after I have sex with them, they want me even more, as generally I can make them cum 5 or 6 times per session. Most always tell me they have never met a better lover than me.

Also most girls tell me they much prefer an older guy in there 40's or 50's to a young guy who is 20 to 25, as the young guys do not have the experience, or the conversation to stimulate them, plus they have no interest in someone who cannot even afford a decent place to say, or have some money to buy a few drinks. In other words, they do not like no peso gringos. Just relaying what I am told. [/QUOTE]don't always believe what females tell ya. In countries like Brazil, Colombia, Thailand, Costa Rica ect young upper class girls would not get caught dead with older gringos solely due to the rampant prostitution problem / stigma fueled by all the Americans and Europeans.

But there is always exceptions to every rule. You might be one of them or you might not.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69; 1129735]As I stated previously, when you are as blessed as I am with good looks and conversation, the girls flock to you, working girls and non-working girls alike. It does get old after a while, because I enjoy the hunt as much as the capture, but it is what it is. Believe it or not, after I have sex with them, they want me even more, as generally I can make them cum 5 or 6 times per session. Most always tell me they have never met a better lover than me.

Also most girls tell me they much prefer an older guy in there 40's or 50's to a young guy who is 20 to 25, as the young guys do not have the experience, or the conversation to stimulate them, plus they have no interest in someone who cannot even afford a decent place to say, or have some money to buy a few drinks. In other words, they do not like no peso gringos. Just relaying what I am told. [/QUOTE]We're damn lucky to have you on our Forum Black Hawk!

Keep up the good work!

You keep me rollin' amigo :)

Your final photo, Playa Mar 302. Right?

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69; 1129735]As I stated previously, when you are as blessed as I am with good looks and conversation, the girls flock to you, working girls and non-working girls alike. It does get old after a while, because I enjoy the hunt as much as the capture, but it is what it is. Believe it or not, after I have sex with them, they want me even more, as generally I can make them cum 5 or 6 times per session. Most always tell me they have never met a better lover than me.

Also most girls tell me they much prefer an older guy in there 40's or 50's to a young guy who is 20 to 25, as the young guys do not have the experience, or the conversation to stimulate them, plus they have no interest in someone who cannot even afford a decent place to say, or have some money to buy a few drinks. In other words, they do not like no peso gringos. Just relaying what I am told. [/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

Sorry to be a pain, just wondering if anyone had an updated list on the night life?

I've scanned the posts and can't find a lot of current info.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=QueLinda; 1129306]Hello, to all,

I was referred to this site from a former colleague. I've been reading and cramming as much info as possible to make my trip an easy transition.

So far I have found a treasure of knowledge and would like to thank all the members for sharing such valuable information!

Right now I'm in the process of finding an apartment through Mery or Juan for my upcoming March 28th trip.

Senior and experienced travelers perhaps could answer some questions on the night life? I'm mostly looking for P4P The 3 main places I keep hearing are LDV, Elektra, and Isis. Are there more than this? If so, where and when are the best times? Also, any information on Casa's would be appreciated.

I've read that Black Hawk69 has a valuable and current list of all of this but haven't been able to find it anywhere?

I'm getting excited and want to be as prepared as possible. Hoping to have a great time and being able to share all my experiences in Cartagena with everyone here.

BTW, I'm not handsome, rich, or young. Just an average Joe. Sorry no photos of me but will gladly post some of the beautiful chicas I hope to find! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1129963]Attached is some more of the results of me being blessed with my good looks, conversation skills, charm, intelligence, and sexual skills. It has to be true, as I hear about it daily from the girls. [...][/QUOTE]Anybody can get chicks like that (posted photos) in CTG. To each is own, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder I realize but to brag about those girls isn't saying much really. I'm just being honest here. I wouldn't do any of those.

As for TarHeelBreed, I don't know what all the fuss is about. He's a good looking young guy. So if he thinks he will have a "leg up" on some of the older guys well then let him think that. When he gets there he will likely be humbled by the actual results. You older more experienced, more charming, richer guys know this already. Why ya want to bust his balls so hard for? He seems like a good sort. I'd offer him a beer and a chair at the beach any time.

[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1129800][/QUOTE]Looks like military enlistee fodder. Or else candidate for time serving in law enforcement industry.

beach had best seletion of girls i have ever seen here today. heading out in couple minutes if i feel ambitious i will post some beach girl pics in morning before heading to carnaval in barranquilla.

speedbump i have a few numbers and pics for you when you get here.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1129911]don't always believe what females tell ya. In countries like Brazil, Colombia, Thailand, Costa Rica ect young upper class girls would not get caught dead with older gringos solely due to the rampant prostitution problem / stigma fueled by all the Americans and Europeans.

But there is always exceptions to every rule. You might be one of them or you might not.[/QUOTE]THB, what you say is correct. What you fail to realize is that NONE of us, you included, is getting anywhere near the young upper class girls of Colombia, period. The only guys getting that ass are Colombianos, rich Colombianos, young and old. As a matter of fact you could be putting yourself in harms way if you start hitting on upper class Colombianas in certain places.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69; 1129963]By the way MiamiHeatLuver, Urban sends his greetings from San Andres.

See a few of you in Cartagena on the 10th of March. [/QUOTE]Send my regards to Urban as well. He is one charming MoFo who I'm sure has no problem charming the pants off some young coeds! Its all in the gift of gab people. Youth and may I say "average" looks have nothing on experience, gift of gab and be a well mannered composed gentleman.

P. S. Blackhawk! Nice pulls as usual!

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1130056]THB, what you say is correct. What you fail to realize is that NONE of us, you included, is getting anywhere near the young upper class girls of Colombia, period. The only guys getting that ass are Colombianos, rich Colombianos, young and old. As a matter of fact you could be putting yourself in harms way if you start hitting on upper class Colombianas in certain places.[/QUOTE]Let him find out de malas!

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1130067]Let him find out de malas![/QUOTE]Let him find out de malas!

Hell breed from state college in nowhere flyover land is ready to conquer the world. Let 'I'm have at it.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1130013]Of course you would not do any of them girls I posted, you are fricking gay, evidenced by your sweetness for Tar Heel Bred. That is keeping things real, but whatever floats your boat. Your post is actually kind of funny, since it is obvious your boat floats in a different direction than the rest of us. For christ sakes, you probably have copied the photos of Tar Heel Bred, and have it posted bedside. I am just being honest here.[/QUOTE]Nice. It's apparent that with your (good looks, conversation skills, charm, intelligence, and sexual skills) you haven't yet risen above a 12 year old intellect. So much for your proclaimed intelligence.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1130056]THB, what you say is correct. What you fail to realize is that NONE of us, you included, is getting anywhere near the young upper class girls of Colombia, period. The only guys getting that ass are Colombianos, rich Colombianos, young and old. As a matter of fact you could be putting yourself in harms way if you start hitting on upper class Colombianas in certain places.[/QUOTE]Hit on the wrong girl and one word from the jefe, and you will be soon in the ground. $500 does the trick.

[QUOTE=Bologna; 1130007]Anybody can get chicks like that (posted photos) in CTG. To each is own, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder I realize but to brag about those girls isn't saying much really. I'm just being honest here. I wouldn't do any of those.

As for TarHeelBreed, I don't know what all the fuss is about. He's a good looking young guy. So if he thinks he will have a "leg up" on some of the older guys well then let him think that. When he gets there he will likely be humbled by the actual results. You older more experienced, more charming, richer guys know this already. Why ya want to bust his balls so hard for? He seems like a good sort. I'd offer him a beer and a chair at the beach any time. [/QUOTE]Of the 8 or so photos posted by Black Hawk, you say you would do none of them. I would like to see a photo of a girl you would do. It appears your taste in women is way better than most of us on ISG.

[QUOTE=John Gault;1130307]Of the 8 or so photos posted by Black Hawk, you say you would do none of them. I would like to see a photo of a girl you would do. It appears your taste in women is way better than most of us on ISG.[/QUOTE]Ok, I'll be honest, looking at the pics again the girl in 9. Jpg is actually very pretty and looks fun, and the 56. Jpg looks kinda nice too. , so I apologize for that BlackHawk, there were 2. But I can't imagine any of the others being first pick for any guy.

My point was really if someone has all those mad skills and brag about it, they should be able to sweep girls off their feet that the rest of us just can't.

Just got here to CTG, and already have more women than I can possibly do (NOT because I'm such a stud, but because I've been here several times before, and CTG is CTG) , and I have heard and seen some of the photos of the destruction of the beach, but seeing it first-hand is a shock.

For you regulars, you know Playa Hollywood street that ends up at El Muelle restaurant (and the other, whose name escapes me at the moment) , then one turns right, the jetty is right in front of you. Well, there is no right turn anymore, unless you want to tightrope walk a bunch of sandbags next to a seawall. All 40-50+ yards gone. Now, maybe it was high tide when I went. So I had to walk to the next opening to the beach, and 30 yards down the street. Playa Hollywood is about 30-40% of what it was in size, and in fact Tony is about X% of what he was in size. Lost a lot of weight. Usually that's good, but in his case, I'm not so sure. He only ripped me off for about 20K, not bad for him, and I caught a lucky break, he happened to set me up with a woman that was amazing. Gonzo is a happy man.

The beach next to Playa Hollywood, which is separated by another jetty, seems almost the same size as b4.

Well I rarely go for looks. I always go for who I have some type of connection with and it always works well for me. Well 99% of the time. I could care a less if there model material as a matter of fact, I don't even find myself attracted to that type. I much rather have a decent looking girl with a fantastic attitude. Very rarely have I found that with the exquisite (sp) looking women. So you can have them.

[QUOTE=Bologna; 1130515]Ok, I'll be honest, looking at the pics again the girl in 9. Jpg is actually very pretty and looks fun, and the 56. Jpg looks kinda nice too. , so I apologize for that BlackHawk, there were 2. But I can't imagine any of the others being first pick for any guy.

My point was really if someone has all those mad skills and brag about it, they should be able to sweep girls off their feet that the rest of us just can't. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1130738]Well I rarely go for looks. I always go for who I have some type of connection with and it always works well for me. Well 99% of the time. I could care a less if there model material as a matter of fact, I don't even find myself attracted to that type. I much rather have a decent looking girl with a fantastic attitude. Very rarely have I found that with the exquisite (sp) looking women. So you can have them.[/QUOTE]From my experence I must say a 7 with a great attitude beats the higher numbers. From the girls I have experenced only a handful in the 9 to 10 range have been great. While 75 % in the 7 range have been very good. Of course you must get the proper vibes from either group to give yourself a fighting chance at the big game (GFE) we are after.

Yes hunting for the GFE is like stalking Prey in the jungle. Instead of a rifle you have your knowledge and looks and the real ammo (money)

[QUOTE=You Can;1130738]Well I rarely go for looks. I always go for who I have some type of connection with and it always works well for me. Well 99% of the time. I could care a less if there model material as a matter of fact, I don't even find myself attracted to that type. I much rather have a decent looking girl with a fantastic attitude. Very rarely have I found that with the exquisite (sp) looking women. So you can have them.[/QUOTE]I agree 100. Take the time to chat with a girl first, if she gives off a bad vibe move on, if she has a great personality it almost always carries into the bedroom, beauty is only a light switch away.

How's it going guys, I am new to this site and to be quite honest I only signed up because of Blackhawk, YouCan and Gonzo. You guys seem to know what you are taking about and I always listen to men who know what they are saying and have experience as I like to learn from the best! I will be in Cartagena with 8 other buddies from 3/9/11- 3/14/11 we're from Orange County, Ca all males between 28-32. We all love women but are not disrespectful to them. Our immature days of acting like fools are behind us and we are ready for this trip. We rented a home because it seemed like the right thing to do due to the size of our crowd and we are all willing to spend cash to have fun (most of us don't have a budget) unlike Mr. Tar Heel. Anyway, I wanted to get in contact with you BlackHawk or Gonzo or YouCan to see if you would be courteous enough to give us a short tour for a day in Cartagena? We can guarantee you at least a drink each (thats 9 drinks!) and a helluva time. Let me know if its possible to meet up and how. We all speak spanish and english fluently. Oh yeah and were all far better looking than Tar Heel. I guess he thinks he's hot. Maybe in North Carolina. Not in OC buddy but who cares how we look as we aint gay and only care of how the girls look and act!

Hey buddy,

Hope you have a great time but don't rob Cartagena of all its beauty.

Can't imagine if we were all there at the same time! I wonder if there would be enough women to go around?

I'll be in Cartagena on March 22 for one week. If anyone wants to hook up with me and my friends for some serious partying, let me know.

I'm traveling with 8 other Italian-Americans for a bachelor party. All of us in our 30's good looking and in great shape. Fun to party with and not shy on spending $

Going to give my boy one more week of freedom and salvation.

We just secured a hellacious pad and ready to take Cartagena.

Far better looking than me huh? Damn yall are going to have to be turning down pussy on a epic scale in Colombia. And don't even think about paying for pussy if yall look that good. Hell, I'd make the girls pay me if I was yall.

I don't know Gonzo, but if the other two guys decide to include you into their madness then you will have a great time.

One thing I must let you know. When dealing with Youcan and Blackhawk you must bring your A game. These guys don't stop. You guys are 28 to 32, well I hope you can hang. Anyway no matter what I hope you guys have a really good time.

I guess we'll have to take our chances then Black Hawk who knows maybe we'll run into each other on the 10th. I would go through with the twenty but it just seems to take long and I really don't have much time as we're leaving in a few hours and I have a lot of crap to wrap up. Nobodys fault but mine. I shoulve signed up earlier. Damn right Jersey Shore it would be legendary to be there at the same time as your crowd as it sounds just like my boys just different coasts. I will take all the advise I can piece together as to definitely go to LDV and Cafe Del Mar etc. N definitely stay away from a Tony at Playa Hollywood. Thanks for everything guys.

[QUOTE=DrTukan OC; 1131096]How's it going guys, I am new to this site and to be quite honest I only signed up because of Blackhawk, YouCan and Gonzo. You guys seem to know what you are taking about and I always listen to men who know what they are saying and have experience as I like to learn from the best!

... Oh yeah and were all far better looking than Tar Heel. I guess he thinks he's hot. Maybe in North Carolina. Not in OC buddy. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred;1131211]Far better looking than me huh? Damn yall are going to have to be turning down pussy on a epic scale in Colombia. And don't even think about paying for pussy if yall look that good. Hell, I'd make the girls pay me if I was yall.[/QUOTE]It's not like it's difficult to sign up to this site DrTukan, a handle and an email and off you go.

As far as being better looking than Tar Heel, well at least the guy posted his photos.

You may not be aware of this, but there's a fairly new rule on this site; if you write as to 'how good looking you are', you're required to post photos to prove it.

Far too many guys making these claims these days, especially SoCal guys.

Another new rule in the works as well; if you claim to have brought a girl to several orgasms, you'll need to submit notarized affirmation of this by the girl herself.

This should cut down on quite a bit of the fantasy writing.

Have fun in Costagena! Ooops, I mean Cartagena :)

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred;1128814]No prob, here ya go. <snip pics of kid wet behind ears>[/QUOTE]Heh. Okay I am going to be serious, as I have done a lot of traveling around South America and hung around the young good looking traveling guys in the backpacking hotels, told stories, had fun, but NEVER did they outpull me for girls. Not once.

Young, decent looking guys like yourself will have no problem getting girls. This is true. Go to the disco and you will get attention. HOWEVER, over in the corner you see that guy, that 40 something guy sitting at the bar who is pretty average looking, who is kind of smiling a little when he looks your way? He has already banged every girl that is whispering "que quapo" about you, and he can probably walk up to your new girlfriend and say "excuse me", offer to leave with her, and she will either go or meet him outside as she excuses herself. This is a different game than you are playing, and the field is not level.

I used to bang the smoking hot head bartender at Tequila rocks in Lima all the time. All the locals told me she was out of play. Sometimes would be sucking my * and her phone would ring, and it would be her US serviceman boyfriend who was 22. Last I saw her, she had moved on, quit her job, was hooked up with an american who was living in Lima, age 23, who was quite the handsome young man, and they were engaged to be married.

Ricker had a 19 year old girlfriend in Medellin about 5 years ago, and I was playing around with her younger sister.

This is not Kansas dude. You are out of your leaque.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred;1131211]Far better looking than me huh? Damn yall are going to have to be turning down pussy on a epic scale in Colombia. And don't even think about paying for pussy if yall look that good. Hell, I'd make the girls pay me if I was yall.[/QUOTE]"young men think old men are fools but old men know that young men are fools!"

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1130018]I am one of them! I have been told many many times from the girls, that I am a gift to them from above! There are not to many other guys who have better conversational skills than me, not to mention my physical beauty alone sweeps them off their feet. Anyone who has partied with me from the board here will tell you this. I am all that and more! When the girls get some of the Black Hawk, they are experiencing the taste of heaven. That again, is just keeping it in reality.[/QUOTE]Hey BlackHawk,

Like to see you in action.

Just wondering if you possess all these God Gifted skills then why do you have to travel to 3rd world countries to troll for women?

If you even have a fraction of the attributes you claim you wouldn't have to leave your backyard to find beautiful women. Just ask Heff or any Hollywood badboy.

Either you're not what you claim or your skills have seriously eroded to the point where you're trying to recapture your youth. Hence the fact that you've turned to prostitutes to feed your starving ego. ROTFLMAO.

Of course you can prove us wrong!

I'll be there with 8 other buddies on March 22. If you think you can hang and keep up with us? Look me up!

[QUOTE=WestFLA; 1131447]Heh. Okay I am going to be serious, as I have done a lot of traveling around South America and hung around the young good looking traveling guys in the backpacking hotels, told stories, had fun, but NEVER did they outpull me for girls. Not once.

Young, decent looking guys like yourself will have no problem getting girls. This is true. Go to the disco and you will get attention. HOWEVER, over in the corner you see that guy, that 40 something guy sitting at the bar who is pretty average looking, who is kind of smiling a little when he looks your way? He has already banged every girl that is whispering "que quapo" about you, and he can probably walk up to your new girlfriend and say "excuse me", offer to leave with her, and she will either go or meet him outside as she excuses herself. This is a different game than you are playing, and the field is not level.

I used to bang the smoking hot head bartender at Tequila rocks in Lima all the time. All the locals told me she was out of play. Sometimes would be sucking my * and her phone would ring, and it would be her US serviceman boyfriend who was 22. Last I saw her, she had moved on, quit her job, was hooked up with an american who was living in Lima, age 23, who was quite the handsome young man, and they were engaged to be married.

Ricker had a 19 year old girlfriend in Medellin about 5 years ago, and I was playing around with her younger sister.

This is not Kansas dude. You are out of your leaque.[/QUOTE]Not sure the point of your post. Its like your bragging about some older dude that has fucked all the girls in the disco that he PAID for. LOL Anyone can pay for sex, that means nothing. Nothing wrong with paying, I just wouldn't brag about it.

A girl my younger wingman and I hooked up with 125k pesos. We both tagged her me once him twice LOL out of LDV.

He got another for 120k pesos pic later and one off beach yesterday for 50k pesos not bad.

Nice to run into you again Locogringo.

[QUOTE=DrTukan OC; 1131330.] Damn right Jersey Shore it would be legendary to be there at the same time as your crowd as it sounds just like my boys just different coasts. I will take all the advise I can piece together as to definitely go to LDV and Cafe Del Mar etc. N definitely stay away from a Tony at Playa Hollywood. Thanks for everything guys.[/QUOTE]Oh no. 8 goombahs in CTG! (I'm a goombah too). Blackhawk69 will help you out for sure! Also, you don't necessarily have to avoid Tony, simply show up around 4:30 or 5:00 when all the hooking up finishes up and Tony doesn't have enuf time to rip you off. Just keep Playa Hollywood as a contingency plan if you want sumpin-sumpin in the late afternoon, and you don't have any yet.

Good one Ricker, Costagena! It's mostly true, prices do vary, had 2 below market, but they are rising in general. It's annoying. And the 3-ways are very costly!

Blackhawk69, thanks for the compliment, I can keep up with the young chicas for a while, but eventually they wear me down. Most of the time here I'm feeling very satisfied, sometimes tired, sometimes I wish I had 3 johnsons.

[QUOTE=JersheyShore; 1131461]Hey BlackHawk,

Like to see you in action.

Just wondering if you possess all these God Gifted skills then why do you have to travel to 3rd world countries to troll for women?

If you even have a fraction of the attributes you claim you wouldn't have to leave your backyard to find beautiful women. Just ask Heff or any Hollywood badboy.

Either you're not what you claim or your skills have seriously eroded to the point where you're trying to recapture your youth. Hence the fact that you've turned to prostitutes to feed your starving ego. ROTFLMAO.

Of course you can prove us wrong!

I'll be there with 8 other buddies on March 22. If you think you can hang and keep up with us? Look me up! [/QUOTE]At some point in your life you will acknowledge the fact that. :

"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less."

I have been reading this talking about young verse old and Paying pro's verse non pro's and getting free action from pro's.

I guess it is time for my opinion. As most likely one of the older guys on this forum who can hang with anyone young or old, I must say I think the main point is being missed here. First off when you pay it is the most honest transaction you can get. After you are finished you don't have to lie or play games with the girl. You just move on to the next one. Also the thought is always there, does she really like me or is she looking for that coveted ticket to the USA?

I think 99% of us have all had non Pro's at one time or another so what is the big deal about it? Forget all this bragging and get to the real issue, that is am I getting a awesome experence?

For me I hunt all the time (I travel almost every month for long amounts of time) and keep trying out new girls. The result is I have a solid Pro or two in every country I have been to. This enables me to have a total GFE whenever I choose.

To sum up. Leave your egos and the door (myself included as I have bragged a little here) and look for great experences not numbers and false hopes.

[QUOTE=Gonzo;1131613]Good one Ricker, Costagena![/QUOTE]I propose: Goombagena, or Guidogena

[QUOTE=DR1470; 1131618]At some point in your life you will acknowledge the fact that. :

"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less."[/QUOTE]This is so true [B]in the US[/B].

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job [B]it is exactly the opposite. [/B]

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took [B]me [/B]out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took [B]me [/B]out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1131821]This is so true [B]in the US[/B].

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job [B]it is exactly the opposite. [/B]

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took [B]me [/B]out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took [B]me [/B]out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit. [/QUOTE]Sounds very nice. But does or will this girl have a desire to "advance" the relationship sooner or later? And when you get bored or it ends, will it end with drama or tears?

I'm not you but if I was living and dating locally in Medellin or Lima Peru which is my other frequent destination and possibly a permanent one soon, I'd actually feel better if part of any relationship with a non-pro was based on some kind of financial support to supplement her meager income. Because I always crave variety and hate being tied down I would also make clear the relationship be explicitly NSA. If I'm supposed to be sincere and faithful I would suffer from one of two negative feelings, either guilt when I just have to tap some new strange and lie to my girl about that or worse, risk being found out, or "caged-in" if I force myself to be unnaturally monogamous living in a place of pussy abundance.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1131821]This is so true [B]in the US[/B].

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job [B]it is exactly the opposite. [/B]

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took [B]me [/B]out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took [B]me [/B]out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit. [/QUOTE]Yes, but you are LuckyEddie

[quote=cuero99; 1131947]sounds very nice. but does or will this girl have a desire to "advance" the relationship sooner or later? and when you get bored or it ends, will it end with drama or tears?

if i'm supposed to be sincere and faithful i would suffer from one of two negative feelings, either guilt when i just have to tap some new strange and lie to my girl about that or worse, risk being found out, or "caged-in" if i force myself to be unnaturally monogamous living in a place of pussy abundance. [/quote]+1.

even if 'bandit' was used as a figure of speech, the term still speaks for something that didn't sound good.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1131821]This is so true [B]in the US[/B].

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job [B]it is exactly the opposite. [/B]

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took [B]me [/B]out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took [B]me [/B]out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit. [/QUOTE]Eddie, you are my hero. Really

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1131821]This is so true [B]in the US[/B].

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job [B]it is exactly the opposite. [/B]

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took [B]me [/B]out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took [B]me [/B]out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit. [/QUOTE]Do you live in Medellin full time? Or just visit frequently and / or for long periods of time? Does she have Facebook? Take a look at what and which guys post on her wall or who's wall she posts on. Chances are that's who's she's banging when you leave town. Or if not thats her "dick in a glass case" "break in case of emergency" novio when she feels like it or if you fuck up. If she tells you that she doesn't have Facebook it's a lie beacause every single Colombiana i know under 30 has one. They will create 2 or more profiles. 1 sanitized that she will share with you and one for her friends using pseudo names like (Princessa 89) and things like this. I figured its best to not be "friends" with girls I become serious with because it just adds to much pressure and stress to a relationship. Just enjoy the time when we are together and thatssss it!

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1131821]... But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Cuero99; 1131947]Sounds very nice. But does or will this girl have a desire to "advance" the relationship sooner or later? And when you get bored or it ends, will it end with drama or tears?

I'm not you but if I was living and dating locally in Medellin or Lima Peru which is my other frequent destination and possibly a permanent one soon, I'd actually feel better if part of any relationship with a non-pro was based on some kind of financial support to supplement her meager income. Because I always crave variety and hate being tied down I would also make clear the relationship be explicitly NSA. If I'm supposed to be sincere and faithful I would suffer from one of two negative feelings, either guilt when I just have to tap some new strange and lie to my girl about that or worse, risk being found out, or "caged-in" if I force myself to be unnaturally monogamous living in a place of pussy abundance. [/QUOTE]I have to agree with the LuckyEddie on this.

It sure is nice to hang with a girl who makes her own money, won't accept financial support and would actually be offended if you tried, and is with you because she really does like you.

I still haven't found that type relationship in Colombia, never have, but I have it now in Brazil.

It's nice.

Now do I still get that craving for variety and the chase? Of course.

For me that's where the PFP comes in to play, and I dabble in that for some fun and I have to accept that's who I am, but I do enjoy eventually coming back to the girl who digs me.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1131991]Do you live in Medellin full time? Or just visit frequently and / or for long periods of time? Does she have Facebook? Take a look at what and which guys post on her wall or who's wall she posts on. Chances are that's who's she's banging when you leave town. Or if not thats her "dick in a glass case" "break in case of emergency" novio when she feels like it or if you fuck up. If she tells you that she doesn't have Facebook it's a lie beacause every single Colombiana i know under 30 has one. They will create 2 or more profiles. 1 sanitized that she will share with you and one for her friends using pseudo names like (Princessa 89) and things like this. I figured its best to not be "friends" with girls I become serious with because it just adds to much pressure and stress to a relationship. Just enjoy the time when we are together and thatssss it![/QUOTE]Hahaha. I'm with ya Heat, lots of these chicas are 'playas', but surely not all of them.

Believe it or not, there are some keepers out there.

Hasta pronto.

[QUOTE=JersheyShore; 1131139]. I'm traveling with 8 other Italian-Americans for a bachelor party. All of us in our 30's good looking and in great shape. Fun to party with and not shy on spending $.

We just secured a hellacious pad and ready to take Cartagena. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Gonzo;1131613]Good one Ricker, Costagena![/QUOTE][QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1131813]I propose: Goombagena, or Guidogena[/QUOTE]Oh brother, feels like I blinked and everything changed.

That's cool though, just hangin' in new places.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1131991]Do you live in Medellin full time? Or just visit frequently and / or for long periods of time? Does she have Facebook? Take a look at what and which guys post on her wall or who's wall she posts on. Chances are that's who's she's banging when you leave town. Or if not thats her "dick in a glass case" "break in case of emergency" novio when she feels like it or if you fuck up. If she tells you that she doesn't have Facebook it's a lie beacause every single Colombiana i know under 30 has one. They will create 2 or more profiles. 1 sanitized that she will share with you and one for her friends using pseudo names like (Princessa 89) and things like this. I figured its best to not be "friends" with girls I become serious with because it just adds to much pressure and stress to a relationship. Just enjoy the time when we are together and thatssss it![/QUOTE]HeatLuver. I would ask the same questions if I were you. No harm no foul. I appreciate the help.

I am here full time since 2003, speak fluent spanish although with an accent. I've been in the game and know all the tricks in the book. I honestly feel I can spot the liar. Matter of fact it is practically all of them!

I never leave town. Yes, she has Facebook, like 60 friends, no gringos and just moved to Medellin 9 months ago and we hooked up on her 2nd month here. Beforehand she worked for the mayor's office in her pueblo and had a steady boyfriend there since highschool. They broke up about 6 months before she moved here. I have access to her computer and such and don't need to spy. But I could if I wanted to.

She has one cell phone, no primos hanging around, no gaps on her resume and again, has only been in Medellin for 9 months. She doesn't NEED me and doesn't admit to hating Colombian men (that is the lie to watch for). She doesn't see my facebook and I don't see hers. It's really not necessary. If she is banging anyone it would have to be somoene in her office. They would have to be going at it in the closet and every one would know as her office is run by women.

Honestly? I don't really care.

The trick is living here and being able to get girls with options (ie: pretty young girls with a lot going for them). You need to stick it out with them for a while. These girls are financially secure with their shit half together, generally get good Colombian guys. Those guys do exist.

These girls are not really looking to leave the country permanently but are open and really would just love to travel. But they want to be here with their family and friends and have no problem saying so. These girls hooking up with a foreigner who happens to be here on a one week vacation, or with some foreigner who lives here but doesn't speak the language, or with any guy, foreigner or Colombian, who is way out of her league, well, does not have a shot with her. For her this is just not an option.

Just imagine yourself here and having to compromise with having to be with Rosie O' Donnell or some other fat 40 something year old. Why don't you do that old lady when you are here? Because like the really great girls you too also have choices.

These girls, like every girl on the planet, want to converse with their boyfriends,"how was your day?" and don't want to be embarrased walking down the street with someone totally not in their league. Image is very important here.

So why am I rambling on about this? Not just because the guy I quoted in my original post, who said non pros cost more than pros, struck a chord. But all the rest of you: Practically every guy on here is looking for girlfriend experience. GFE is mentioned in every post about hookers.

It is great having a steady slampiece and being able to fool around on the side in the PFP arena, but seriously? When you got a hottie with no restrictions and no condoms it's tough in bed wearing a rubber with a skank who's fucking half the town for 35K a pop.

For the record I do hit the casas and putas now and then but don't consider that a big no no. Although this girl is in my league, she is under 30 and if things don't work out noone really got screwed. Yeah there will be tears when the breakup happens but know what? There's tears when the break happens in any country. So what? My intentions are good.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1132008]Now do I still get that craving for variety and the chase? Of course.

For me that's where the PFP comes in to play, and I dabble in that for some fun and I have to accept that's who I am, but I do enjoy eventually coming back to the girl who digs me. [/QUOTE]And there you have it. I'm in the same boat. Ricker as you probably know what you have in your neck of Brazil was available here 6, 8.10 years ago. Nowadays the girls here are so inundated with gringos that finding what you have is actually too much work and at times nearly impossible. A lot more accessable in brazil.

Another motivation I have is I HATE wearing rubbers and / or shooting my load in mid air. Also having more options than BBBJCIM is nice. BBBJ is all good but I like blasting my load deep in raw pussy and then spending the night in bed, waking up the next morning and doing that all over again. I am old enough to never allow myself to be in the position where I can't wait until she leaves.

OK, nuff said. Bottom line the girlfrind thing, here in a 3rd world country with non desperate girls, is cheaper than working girls here AND definately cheaper than US girlfriends.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1132063]HeatLuver. I would ask the same questions if I were you.[/QUOTE]Of course I ask myself the same questions. I wrote the book on devilish vieja behavior. Never want to be labeled as the Wester Union Novio or the Gringo Pato. Je je LOL Good luck keep doing your thing and see what happens.

in fll waiting for flight just got back. cartagena was good. lots of pics. beach was awesome friday but died on weekend probably barranquilla carnaval. still was good.

ldv only went there twice some lookers tagged team a blonde for 125k each great body.

electra some hot ones last night but we got there at 3am it opens at 2am. lots of lookers we took 2 to go lol.

nice ones there too.

beach girls were 50-100k pesos. [28-55 dollars more or less]

beach was there at playa hollywood 100 feet wide but still alright.

youcan's take on tony accurate he seems to be a little timid being a little focker now.

it was a pleasure locogringo and speedbump. i will post few pics later tomarrow.

This is probably my 4th or 5th report on Cartagena. To be honest, as LDV and Elektra are the focus of my attention not much else changes except the prices and currency exchange rates. But in the interests of giving back I'll report anyway.

This may have been my first time visiting in February. It was a perfect time. The weather, although windy, was perfect. Sunny every day and warm but not oppressively so. The weather in this trip allowed me to roam around centro a lot more and reminded me that CTG is probably one of the most beautiful cities in South America.

LDV:

LDV has barely changed in 5 years, Although the exchange rates have changed, the volume of chicas is the same. I don't recognise the reports other mongers have made that the place is now dominated by hardcore putas. In fact, what I find incredible about LDV and Colombia in general is that although a girl may have worked there for years, if you treat her right she could still be very GFE.

Prices: I think it's realistic to get TLN for $200. $250COP. This is in my experience. However, I always bought plenty of drinks which no doubt softened them up. So maybe add £100kCOP to this for the actual price.

Elektra:

This is the place where everyone goes at the end of the night. The dregs of all Cartagena's puti clubs arrive at Elektra from 4am. This includes: Isis, Queens, LDV, Pleybey and infiintely more places. Prices are a complete free-for all. Probably a minimum of $150kCOP for whatever time you can negotiate. Good fun.

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As many of you know, Cartagena is a very special city to me for many reasons, with the biggest reason being the amount of great friendships I have established through the years. The thing I hate the most about Cartagena, a city with over a million people, is that it is hard to get purposely lost if you stay in the Laguito or Bocagrande area. Everyone knows everybody, and word travels as it was on teletype, telegraph or television.

On this trip, I have been making a strong point to have my stay be as private as possible, as I am basically here visiting a couple of nonputas, and did not want other friends coming knocking on my door, or having security call me. I actually had told Gonzo about this when we were eating breakfast in the morning, telling him that there were two girls especially I did not want to see.

So what happens, I walk my girlfriend out to get a taxi, and I happen to run into Gonzo again. I speak to him for about 5 minutes, and lo and behold, one of the two girls I said I did not want to let know I was here walks up to me and Gonzo, and says my name, and begins the questioning. This particular girl is not a girl that frequents the Laguito area, and infact, lives quite a ways away.

The moral of my story is. Cartagena is a city of a million people, but a person can try to hide, but eventually you will be found. Next thing I know I have the regular working girls who live across the street from the building my apartment is located in calling for me. It is now time to move on to El Rodadero.

A little more info.

I ran into a hostel in Centro not far from Electra it is called ElviaJeroHostels at

[url]http://www.hostelcartagena.com/en/hostel-cartagena/tarifas-hostel[/url]

Rooms seem cheap chica friendly? Not sure.

Also a Intercontinental and a Sheridan is getting built in Bocagrande and a New Raddison Hotel on Las Americas beach.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69; 1133093]As many of you know, Cartagena is a very special city to me for many reasons, with the biggest reason being the amount of great friendships I have established through the years. The thing I hate the most about Cartagena, a city with over a million people, is that it is hard to get purposely lost if you stay in the Laguito or Bocagrande area. Everyone knows everybody, and word travels as it was on teletype, telegraph or television.

On this trip, I have been making a strong point to have my stay be as private as possible, as I am basically here visiting a couple of nonputas, and did not want other friends coming knocking on my door, or having security call me. I actually had told Gonzo about this when we were eating breakfast in the morning, telling him that there were two girls especially I did not want to see.

So what happens, I walk my girlfriend out to get a taxi, and I happen to run into Gonzo again. I speak to him for about 5 minutes, and lo and behold, one of the two girls I said I did not want to let know I was here walks up to me and Gonzo, and says my name, and begins the questioning. This particular girl is not a girl that frequents the Laguito area, and infact, lives quite a ways away.

The moral of my story is. Cartagena is a city of a million people, but a person can try to hide, but eventually you will be found. Next thing I know I have the regular working girls who live across the street from the building my apartment is located in calling for me. It is now time to move on to El Rodadero. [/QUOTE]Senior Black Hawk,

Lets see, far better water and beach. Lower prices and you are mostly unknown. Leave CTG to the Newbes who are now flocking there.

I just got back yesterday from a disappointing trip to Bogota and read the last eight pages of Cartagena reports. Seems like the same old arguments going on with a few good reports. Main thing is to have fun. I will be submitting a report later on Bogota but want to say that all those that say Cartagena is expensive, just go to Bogota for sticker shock.

I was looking forward to going to Cartagena in mid-April, but because of our great bureaucratic Nazi embassy in Bogota, my wife and son will not be leaving Colombia. So there is no need for me to visit in April to bring them home. After close to eight years of marriage, joint bank accounts, shared ownership of property in Colombia, and emotional support for many personal tragedies in our families, the embassy (one lady in particular) decided we did not have a valid relationship.

I am sorry to hear that Playa Hollywood has shrunk, but in a way that is OK. On those hot days, it was difficult to run to the beach without burning the feet. Although Tony can be a pest, he did well for me and get me quality. He must still be battling illness if he has lost weight.

It is very difficult to get a BBBJ in Bogota and have had no problem getting this in Cartagena. Also, in Bogota, I had to pay extra for DATY. Does not make much sense because the girls are the ones that get the enjoyment, plus it gives them a chance to lay back and let us do the work. It is sort of like paying a plumber to sit back while you apply the pipe wrench.

I will write my report on Bogota tomorrow, so if you are interested in going there, I have new information on some new places to go and some that appear to be closed.

Hopefully, I will be meeting some of you in person in the future and have a drink. My wife will be starting a business in our neighborhood near one of the universities. It will be a bar / hot dog stand / mini market place that attracts many of the college students going to and from class. Previously, it was run by a friend of hers. It is kinda of a great place to sit back and cool out while young college girls stop by. My wife knows many of the beauties and they would like to meet some gringos for dinner and drinks and some quality alone time with her new novio. I hope my wife is able to take pictures to provide to anybody wanting to visit. More later in a few months.

Otiers, I for one would be very interested in hearing more about your ordeal. I'm not sure what country you're from, but it sounds like people at your embassy have gone off the deep end. It's sad that one bureaucrat can have so much power and display such poor judgement. BTW, If you're from the U.S., you should try again in a year or two -- I'm personally familiar with instances where that's worked, although not in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1133510]Otiers, I for one would be very interested in hearing more about your ordeal. I'm not sure what country you're from, but it sounds like people at your embassy have gone off the deep end. It's sad that one bureaucrat can have so much power and display such poor judgement. BTW, If you're from the U.S., you should try again in a year or two -- I'm personally familiar with instances where that's worked, although not in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Otiers, I am sorry to hear that. I have read most of your posts here on this site and know you have been dealing with this for a long time.

Assuming that you're pulling from the beach or the street it would seem to me to be extremely advisable to be able to check the age of girls that are questionable (and using a generous range at that, better safe than sorry) but I haven't had the problem of having to check cedulas in Colombia before, since I haven't been pulling any street action from the othe Colombian locales I've visited.

Any advice on how to read the cedulas (some SA cedulas are screwy to read, with numbers hidden in other numbers) and also any advice on the prevalence of fakes and ways to spot them (assuming this is a problem at all)

[QUOTE=Caliguy 2010;1133517]Otiers, I am sorry to hear that. I have read most of your posts here on this site and know you have been dealing with this for a long time.[/QUOTE]Caliguy and Tiny12,

Yes it has been an ordeal, but looking back, if I had been more insistent with my wife to come back after six mionths I would not have the problem today. Easier said than dne with a head strong Colombiana. Family is very important to her and she sacrifices her self for them.

We decided to re-open the cafe / bar and she thought it would be a good place for a gringo or other foreign men to sit, relax, and talk to the young ladies that stop and drink, relax after school in the evening. It might not be for everybody, but some guys like to kick back in a relaxed atmosphere and get to know the culture away from the beach and tourist area. That is how I fell in love with the place, but it certainly is not Kansas.

I posted after my first day in Cartagena around February 17. I mentioned hooking up with a girl I met on Cupid and wondering if she was a pro or not. This was a 20 year old very cute girl that was pretty sexual with me very quickly on msn. For background info I'm in my mid 30s and in pretty good shape, speak spanish very well one on one but get lost in groups, am a very good flirt but can't dance worth a damn.

My first day I met Victoria out for lunch and within about an hour we were back at my apartment and about 30 minutes later having sex. She was great and a very cool fun girl. I hung out with her 4 times in my first 10 days in Cartagena and it was hard limiting her to that many days. I know a lot of guys reading this have ideas of hooking up with tons of local non pros. But as I have previously stated this gets very exhausting as they all work and are all free and expect to go out the exact same time and have an amazing way of making you feel guilty when you blow them off. Only real issue I had with Victoria was that she was very young and looked the part and some part of me felt uncomfortable walking around with her. I also definitely got the vibe that she has worked before and maybe was just hoping I would be a different kind of score. After I started to blow her off she called and mentioned needing money to pay for next semester of University but at that point I had already gotten tired of her so I just said sorry I don't have cash on me.

My second day I met another girl that works at the University. Her name is Jesika and she is about 26 but only like 4 ft 9! I love spinners! Again within 2 hours of meeting we were back at my apartment and having sex. While not as hot as Vicky I felt very comfortable that this was just a nice sweet girl that I had a lot more to talk about. She didn't want or try to spend a dime or order anything that was not the cheapest thing on the menu in the 3 times I was out with her. While she was cute and seemed resigned to the fact that it was just good company and sex. Her only complaint was that I always made her leave as I was going out with other friends whenever I'd see her.

Also hooked up with a girl I met the year before on a trip again nice girl and offered sex up the first time I saw her.

I also hooked up with non pros I met in Santa Marta and Barranquilla on this trip.

At the end of the day I think the following:

1 If you are smooth and have success with women at home you will likely have success in Colombia. Spanish is a great help. But if you are good looking and can dance its not absolutley necessary as my friend that met me towards the end of the trip couldn't say 2 words but still hooked up with some cuties.

2. Unless you really put some work into it and the girl thinks you will marry her and take her away (which ends up being more work and more expensive than paying for a pro) you are likely to hook up with the same caliber of talent as you do in your home. Maybe up a level or down a level. For the most part absolutely gorgeous girls arent' giving it up to guys that don't either 1 pay them or 2 are just as attractive as they are.

3. While it is still possible to hook up with cute non pros in Cartagena it has to be the worst city in the country for it. Locals are exposed to too many tourists to make you exotic and they know most single men come to just have sex. Also, although there are plenty of beautiful locals in Cartagena I think the talent in every other city I have been to absolutely kills Cartagena.

I didn't do too much mongering on this trip but the following were my experiences for what its worth:

This is my 5th trip to Cartagena and 3rd where I expected to engage in quite a bit of mongering.

I was alone for quite a bit of this trip and I just seem to enjoy the hobby a lot more when I'm with a fun group of friends and we create a party atmosphere. Also the fact that I had a good amount of success with non pros really reduced my motivation to hunt. For whatever reason thinigs didn't go great on the paying front for me this trip.

All the bars seemed more or less the same as in years past. LDV maybe a little better than I remember Electra a little worse.

I met some great new friends on this trip and did a casa run with them. We went to Casa Rosario which I think had a great laid back atmosphere. You sit at a talbe there are girls all around and you can order drinks etc like any bar. The talent was a little below my standards of the 20-25 girls I saw ther I would rate most at a 6 (hottest girl at LDV is a 9. 5) with a few 7s sprinkled in. My friend had a good session. I negotiated her down to 125, 000 for him. I can't remember what she tried to charge him initially but it was around 200, 000 I believe which shocked me as I thought the casas are much cheaper.

We also went to Pleyclub where the talent was off the charts better. Every girl in there claims to be from Medellin. I sessioned with a girl from there for 160, 000. Although very affectionate in public the session was quite dissapointing and if not for her ridiculously perfect body would have been a waste. I must say that the rooms at Pleyclub were very nice and clean.

I also had Jayson another English speaking beach guy near where Tony has his seats call us some girls during the day. They came over and gave me the party vibe I was looking for. I think we paid each of them 150, 000 which I feel was too high but I felt tired of negotiating. Turns out these girls worked at Isis which kind of pissed me off because Jayson sold it like they were university girls that won't come to the beach as they don't want anyone to see them there. I ran into my girl at Electra a few days later and I must say that she was very sweet and fun just not what was promised.

Finally I took a Calena home from LDV. She quoted something ridiculous and I got her down to 150, 000. Again she was pretty mechanical and not my favorite when I got her back home. We never discussed whether it was TLN or not but I was ready for her to go so it didn't matter. Along with the girl at Pleyboy this was the most mechanical session I have ever had in experiences with about 15 women in Colombia. I wasn't going to complain but must admit I was a little annoyed at her asking for taxi fare to go back to LDV. I told her you are walking 10 buildings away you don't need a cab. To which she responded I can't walk down the street alone at night. Of course I offered to walk her. The constant needling for propinas tired me out on this trip! If the service was good I wouldn't have had any problem but I refused to give in here.

[QUOTE=Havahopeful; 1133859]I didn't do too much mongering on this trip but the following were my experiences for what its worth:

This is my 5th trip to Cartagena and 3rd where I expected to engage in quite a bit of mongering.

I met some great new friends on this trip and did a casa run with them. We went to Casa Rosario which I think had a great laid back atmosphere. You sit at a talbe there are girls all around and you can order drinks etc like any bar. The talent was a little below my standards of the 20-25 girls I saw ther I would rate most at a 6 (hottest girl at LDV is a 9. 5) with a few 7s sprinkled in. My friend had a good session. I negotiated her down to 125, 000 for him. I can't remember what she tried to charge him initially but it was around 200, 000 I believe which shocked me as I thought the casas are much cheaper.

Thanks for the report Havana!

I was wondering if you could elaborate on Casa Rosario. What are the hours of operation and location from Laguito (how much taxi fare?) and any other notable Casa's from your little run.

Any information would be much appreciated. I'll be there next week and want to check out some Casas.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1131524]Very simple for me to answer. I enjoy being away from my home turf. It is not about if I have to travel to a 3rd world country to get the girls, it is more about wanting to be in a new environment, a new culture, and the girls just go along with it. I never would travel to a particular country or destination for sex. To me that is silly. You need to open your horizons my friend, and when you do, you might be able to see some things you never thought existed.[/QUOTE]Ok Dude,

Lets make a plan we're ready to storm the beach during the day, then LDV and Elektra at night!

See you next week if you're ready to hang?

[QUOTE=DrTukan OC; 1131096]How's it going guys, I am new to this site and to be quite honest I only signed up because of Blackhawk, YouCan and Gonzo. You guys seem to know what you are taking about and I always listen to men who know what they are saying and have experience as I like to learn from the best! I will be in Cartagena with 8 other buddies from 3/9/11- 3/14/11 we're from Orange County, Ca all males between 28-32.

Hey DrTukan,

How was your vacay? Curious to hear a report.

Was Cartagena able to handle 8 young guys?

We just added 3 more to our group so there will be 11 of us ready to tear it up next week.

Hopefully we don't run out of girls.

[QUOTE=QueLinda; 1134041]Thanks for the report Havana!

I was wondering if you could elaborate on Casa Rosario. What are the hours of operation and location from Laguito (how much taxi fare?) and any other notable Casa's from your little run.

Any information would be much appreciated. I'll be there next week and want to check out some Casas.

Thanks! [/QUOTE]Are what days are you going? I will be there this Friday till the 24th.

I believe it is open 24 hours a day. I'm not 100% on this. As far as my casa run Pleyclub and Rosario was all we hit as it strated getting late and a lot of us had more than enough to drink. The younger guys in the group hit electra after.

If you have someone you trust in Cartagena I think the best bet would be to have them reccomend a driver to take you on a run. We paid our guy 20, 000 pesos per hour which was a great deal for him and made us feel comfortable.

I heard of another casa. Something like "los angeles" I can't remember for sure. I was told the talent there is excellent but its in a bit of a rough neighborhood.

Jersey as far as going with 11 guys. That sounds like a blast as long as you don't expect to always be at the same bars at the same times.

I would guess there are about 50-70 girls in LDV at peak hour and maybe 30-55 in Elektra. Most likely quite a few of those girls will be below your standards and others will be occupied. Collect names and numbers as you go along and you will be able to have some sick private / semi private parties the last 2 nights.

Does anyone know if Ibatama is chica friendly? Sounds like a good deal. Cheap, clean, a / c, ect in Bocagrande.

[QUOTE=Havahopeful; 1133851]My first day I met Victoria out for lunch and within about an hour we were back at my apartment and about 30 minutes later having sex. She was great and a very cool fun girl.

After I started to blow her off she called and mentioned needing money to pay for next semester of University but at that point I had already gotten tired of her so I just said sorry I don't have cash on me. [/QUOTE]I kind of smiled at this one. True keepers are rare, its amazing how us mongers almost always quickly get tired of them, even when they are hot and give good sex. But the first time pull with some new non-pro fine is always great unmechanical fun, and nice in this case that she didn't keep you waiting, well done.

With the nons last summer in CTG I struck out using LatinAmericanCupid. 0 for 5 out of 5 where I actually got their digits, but I am a bit older. As you say Cartagena is not the easiest for non-pros, I have found Medellin difficult too so far. Lima, Peru for nons is a little harder than it used to be but much easier than these places for the guys with more age or lesser game.

Thanks Havahopeful!

Good info, I appreciate it!

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1134096]As I posted the other day, I now left Cartagena for now El Rodadero![/QUOTE]Hey Blackhawk,

No prob bro, we don't arrive until next week so maybe you'll be back in CTG.

There's 11 of us coming from various parts of the East coast all meeting up in Miami then on to Cartagena.

When do you return to Cartagena from El Rodadero?

Look me up we're there until the following week.

Quelinda and Lusifer you're also welcome to join us.

Hey Guys. I'm an middle-aged fellow, who'll be in town for one day as part of a cruise stopover.

My idea is to walk around el centro, have a few beers, a nice lunch and then visit a local place for some fun.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Hey Guys. I'm an middle-aged fellow, who'll be in town for one day as part of a cruise stopover.

My idea is to walk around el centro, have a few beers, a nice lunch and then visit a local place for some fun with a chica.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=IntenseMale; 1134547]Hey Guys. I'm an middle-aged fellow, who'll be in town for one day as part of a cruise stopover.

My idea is to walk around el centro, have a few beers, a nice lunch and then visit a local place for some fun with a chica.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Ask any taxista to take you to casa Roscio. I heard a lot of the working girls go there when cruise ships are in town. They have rooms on site and it is a safe well known brothel.

The 2 best daytime options for quick pussy, when a ship is in are Rosario (like the islands) and Lindas Chicas. Lindas Chicas is more of a lively bar. 160K on site, Rosario is 15K on site. Sme jewels usually available, usually open at 1-2 PM.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1134912]The 2 best daytime options for quick pussy, when a ship is in are Rosario (like the islands) and Lindas Chicas. Lindas Chicas is more of a lively bar. 160K on site, Rosario is 15K on site. Sme jewels usually available, usually open at 1-2 PM.[/QUOTE]You must mean 150K.

Do you have an address for these two places?

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1134912]The 2 best daytime options for quick pussy, when a ship is in are Rosario (like the islands) and Lindas Chicas. Lindas Chicas is more of a lively bar. 160K on site, Rosario is 15K on site. Sme jewels usually available, usually open at 1-2 PM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1134638]He will take you to the supermarket to buy food, liquor, ice, as well as take you to the best place to change your dollars into pesos let me know. He charges only 20, 000 pesos an hour.[/QUOTE]I've always used ATMs for pesos. Convenient, good exchange rate so I don't have experience in direct exchanges but have thought / read that direct exchanging is not as good ( rate wise )? You prefer exchanging instead of ATMs?

The next time I am in Cartagena (April3rd) I will get the addresses of those 2 and the ones for locals.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1134638]Thank you, but unfortunately, some of us have to work once in awhile, so I am leaving to do just that next week, .[/QUOTE]Thats too bad dude!

I'm sure you would have the time of your life hanging with guys like us. Perhaps something you will be able to experience in the future.

I have gotten some PMs and seen some debate on this forum regarding costs and figured I would add my 2 cents.

I tried to post a more detailed analysis but lost the connection before it would post but here is a recap.

[B]Cheap but good food alternatives[/B]

Things are obviously cheaper if you are with a wingman as you can get bottle service at the bars, share the cost of the apartment and beach umbrellas.

Everyone knows about Riquisimo you can get a delicious shishkebob plate for 10, 000 pesos or the specials for 12, 000 pesos. Both are your best options for quality and cost.

I go to Julias for breakfast. Scrambled eggs with ham and cheese, coffee and fresh squeezed juice for 11, 000 pesos.

Bakery across the street from Torre Centauro will sell you a ham and cheese sandwich for 2, 000 pesos. Not a bad option for a cheap lunch.

[B]Beach costs[/B]

I only pay 8, 00 for a tent and 2 sit down chairs. Maybe an extra 4, 000 if you want lie down chairs. 30, 000 for the hour massage. 2,500 for an aguilla or 3, 500 for an Aguilla light. 2,000 for a bottle of water.

Make sure you have an agreement on the price of everything before you order or take it.

On this note, Tony is a complete waste at this point. He only charged me the prices quoted above but would still harrass and annoy me all the time for tips and free beers for him. Not to mention the disgusting nose blowing thing he does while touching your drink. He really didn't seem to have a lot of hot girls around in fact Jayson had a much better stable.

I met some friends that had been sitting with him for a few days and what he was charging them was outrageous! Not to mention that even with the 250% prices he would lie to them about how many drinks they had, then screw up the math even more and demand a tip on top of that! I saw him fleece them for 120,000 for something that should have been 40,000. The look of terror on his face when he saw me sit with them was priceless! He even asked me in Spanish not to say anything to them and offered to give me drinks for free.

When I told my friends about this their response was "I don't care about the money I'm on vacation" This is an attitude I often share but not when I feel like I'm being taken advantage of. My response to them was why not pay whats fair and then give a big tip if you feel generous. In fact why be generous with the guy trying to screw you and lying to your face. Go sit with someone honest and reward them!

[B]Alcohol[/B]

Ron de Medellin is inexpensive rum and never leaves me with a hangover. If you can get bottle service this is usually your best option. I like starting my night off with a few drinks at home, then dinner then off to Donde Fidel. A small bottle of Ron costs 40, 000 pesos. In the clubs its between 60, 000-90, 000.

[B]In Total[/B]
If you are travelling with a wingman and are very budget oriented you can still have a great time in Cartagena eat well, drink quite a bit, and have a pro every day for about 270, 000 (lodging included).

I spent about 450, 000 on average on the days I took a pro home and I really didn't feel that I deprived myself of anything at all. In fact I ate where I pleased and drank probably to excess.

I cannot imagine spending more than 900, 000 a day lodging included if traveling with a friend. This includes 2 pros a day at 200, 000 each.

You want to save money in Cartagena do these few things.

1] Bring your own soft cooler from USA buy beers for 1250 pesos each 75 cents I buy 2 cases and ice. I hand them out like candy to chics. And Tony gets a few. Lmfao

Been there done that with Tony and his micounted beers and such someone else can be his blow up doll.

2] Avoid using tout at beach. It will cost you double. Girls are 50k to 100k at beach any more than that you got dork stamped on your forehead.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1135488]You want to save money in Cartagena do these few things.

1] Bring your own soft cooler from USA buy beers for 1250 pesos each 75 cents I buy 2 cases and ice. I hand them out like candy to chics. And Tony gets a few. Lmfao

Been there done that with Tony and his micounted beers and such someone else can be his blow up doll.

2] Avoid using tout at beach. It will cost you double. Girls are 50k to 100k at beach any more than that you got dork stamped on your forehead. [/QUOTE]I always seem to prefer them to what I meet in LDV. Less mileage, softer, more "innocent", more appreciative of being treated nicely. Is 50-100K for a couple of hours what you all find as typical? Few times I engaged, I didn't ask them price but just gave them the $$ as a tip when they left.

Also, my next trip leaves CTG on a Monday; is there much action at the beach on Sunday afternoon? I heard that LDV is very quiet on Sundays. Thoughts?

Dave

Sundays is the day to be at the beach. If everyday was Sunday@the beach I would live there.

50-100k pesos is for about an hour for beach girls remeber NOT to use a tout or your the sucker.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1135726]Sundays is the day to be at the beach. If everyday was [email]Sunday@the[/email] Beach I would live there.

50-100k pesos is for about an hour for beach girls remeber NOT to use a tout or your the sucker. [/QUOTE]Is there a typical cost for several hours? How about all night? I'd rather not have to make a late trip to LDV if we can "eat in". Suggestions how to staff the bachelors suite for the day AND night on Sunday? Fellow mongeres welcome!

You have a phone or do you get a phone when you arrive? Ask the beach girls for theirs. And take their picture then a pic of their number so you can keep the names straight. That and you ask them how much be prepared to get lubed. Just make them an offer of 80k pesos or whatever. Worse they can say is no but same chic is double with a tout. That too LDV girls are cheaper by day also just get their number when your there. Comcel phones in Cartagena are 50 k pesos with a few minutes on them. I have my unlocked quad band with extra SIM cards but not everyone goes that route.

[QUOTE=Otiers]When I read your request several days ago, I was thinking "A simple and upfront request" But after you created multiple posts for all sites, I can longer longer sympathize with you or your brother. In fact, I do not believe much of what I read.[/QUOTE][blue]And that's why I'm not going to bother to delete this guy's photos.

For the record:

1. I'm not anyone's personal fucking secretary.

2. I do not respond to people wishing to get my attention by spamming my forum.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1135739]Quit being so fucking stupid and ignorant, as you have been in Cartagena on a couple of occasions that I know of.[/QUOTE]I don't know you, and I doubt you know me. I was simply asking fellow members a question, and your response is "unusual" to put it mildly

Whats up guys. Sorry Jerseyshore for not reporting earlier as I was swampped with work and was still recooperating. I must say, and I don't say this often, Cartagena exceeded all my expectations! It was a blast! They will definetly be able to handle you and your crowd trust me! We went to all kinds of places such as Cafe Del Mar, Hard Rock Cafe, and the middle of the plaza for food. Places like Tu Candela, Isis and Queens are good to pick up chicks I highly recommend it as we had lots of success there! LDV was ok but I guess I was expecting higher quality and younger girls. I really liked Queen and Isis nice girls with great attitudes and good prices. Tar Heel Bred is out of his fucken mind if he thinks that $65 a day is going to cut it, there is no way you will get any premium ass being a cheapskate, specially if you think you're better than everyone and don't even speak spanish! Your going to look like an idiot! Thanks for your advice Blackhawk it was very useful info. I will be spending this Thanksgiving in Cartagena! It was that good!

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1134912]The 2 best daytime options for quick pussy, when a ship is in are Rosario (like the islands) and Lindas Chicas. Lindas Chicas is more of a lively bar. 160K on site, Rosario is 15K on site. Sme jewels usually available, usually open at 1-2 PM.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mule69;1134812]Ask any taxista to take you to casa Roscio. I heard a lot of the working girls go there when cruise ships are in town. They have rooms on site and it is a safe well known brothel.[/QUOTE]Thanks LocoGringo & Mule69- Appreciate the help.

We'll be staying at Casa Veranera. All of you are welcome to a little party we'll be having, (including "Mr. Sunshine". Perhaps after a drink or two he'll mellow out?)

Thanks all of you who PM's and responded here for the advice. It seems like CTG is pretty much as we enjoyed the past two years. Looking forward to sharing with you who can't meet me when I return.

First few rounds on me. Least I can do for all the help.

I wonder if everyone who's recently visited CTG is still hungover!

Not much new in Cartagena-Tony is slimmer so is Playa Hollywood. [the beach]

Sidewalks in Laguito still run down as is the sidewalks in Bocagrande.

LDV is sill there and Electra is hopping between 3am and 430 am. So freelance bars are still alive and well.

Centro slowly but surely is getting fixed up a little bit more each trip and seems to have a few more small stores and Hotels popping up.

Intercontinental and a Raddison Hotel getting constructed.

The Poseidon apartment building directly across from LDV is nearly complete.

Still plenty of girls at beach and Tony doesn't seem to be pushing them much. Maybe he gets a cut from the other guy sitting next to him who knows?

Tony is preoccupied with his wife moving to Bogota without him. Boo hoo hoo-LOL.

Mery is doing better after car accident.

Mirador Del Laguito still only letting one girl in per person.

Real estate prices are almost double.

Ran into guy that owns Paraiso Del Marino Club [strip club and girls].I remember when it first opened.

He says it never closes and he has 40 chics there and open 24 hours. Personally never had girl from there but seen some.real nice! .

20 minute taxi ride from Laguito.

Paraiso Del Marino Club

Nuevo Campestre.

Calle 10 No56B-51.

Tel 657-1922.

Manager of Isis is now the manager of Queens.

Tania still works at Isis if your looking for her Hilltopper. LOL

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1139161]It is because Black Hawk69 is not posting on this thread, and it is because you have so many losers who have requested and have been provided information, that you do provide back to the forum after they return from there trip, people like Ho Whisperer and Tar Heel Dead, among others. Lastly, it is because of the reasons I just posted on the Medellin thread.[/QUOTE]You're right Blackhawk, I have been wanting to post more stuff about ctg but have been so damn busy! I also have been checking the forum here and there to see an update from JerseyShore which should be good and one from Tar Heel Bred which should be full of shit! I think I speak for everyone when I say that we are all waiting to hear an honest detailed report from both of you. I am getting real close to booking my next trip to ctg for Thanksgiving weekend BlackHawk just need to finalize a couple things with some of the guys. I should know for sure by the end of April I don't know what your plans are for the Holiday weekend but in case you're in town I would love for you to join us for a day of partying or two! I usually spend the holiday with family here in the O. C. But with me being the only single one in the family and everyone is out by say 11 pm. My evening is just beginning so I think the girls appreciate me more in Cartagena, therefore ill be doing my stuffing over there this year!

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1139161]It is because Black Hawk69 is not posting on this thread, and it is because you have so many losers who have requested and have been provided information, that you do provide back to the forum after they return from there trip, people like Ho Whisperer and Tar Heel Dead, among others. Lastly, it is because of the reasons I just posted on the Medellin thread.[/QUOTE]haven't went on my trip yet buddy. Mid April. Be patient.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred;1139358]haven't went on my trip yet buddy. Mid April. Be patient.[/QUOTE]Mr. Tar Heel,

You got that off. For sure now we are all waiting for that report to come. All I ask is you to be honest in that report. I think it will be important to other Newbees to see how you made out. Anyone who is interested in doing CTG on the cheap will want to see your report. Myself I will want to see how much money you spent as that seemed to be what most of your questions were about.

Anyway good luck and I hope you have a backup supply of money (ATM cards or friends who will send you emergency cash.) You will see once you find a hot Babe you will wish you had more money to spend on her.

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Sup fellas. I'm going to Colombia for 2 weeks in March. I'm going to be hitting all the major spots. Medellin, Bogota, Cali, pereira, santa marta, barranquilla, and Cartagena.

I'm young in shape 24 yrd old male that will be trying to game girls in regular clubs and malls but I need a fall back option if it turn up empty handed.

I'm looking for a spots to go to sorta like The Balcony in Brazil and the Del Rey in Costa Rica where I can go and try to shore (get some girls for free)

Can someone give me some spots to hit

Mr. Tar Heel,

My mistake in taking your word rather than doing my homework.

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Sup fellas. I'm going to Colombia for 2 weeks in March. I'm going to be hitting all the major spots. Medellin, Bogota, Cali, pereira, santa marta, barranquilla, and Cartagena.

I'm young in shape 24 yrd old male that will be trying to game girls in regular clubs and malls but I need a fall back option if it turn up empty handed.

I'm looking for a spots to go to sorta like The Balcony in Brazil and the Del Rey in Costa Rica where I can go and try to shore (get some girls for free)

Can someone give me some spots to hit

Mr. Tar Heel,

My mistake in taking your word rather than doing my homework. [/QUOTE]How's it going Tar Heel, I know you might feel like we are picking on you at this forum but you have to realize that you are the one to blame for all this negative reaction to you. First you said you were going in March now apparently that's changed. Now I have a good question for you, Is $1000 for 2 weeks still your budget? If so, how do you plan to travel to Medellin, Pereira, Cartagena and Cali which are all hours away from each other on that budget? There is just no way dude! The ride and the food will take your $65 per day, where will you sleep? Are you even going to Colombia? I mean my thing is that if you're going to be on such a tight budget why go on vacation and pretend like you can afford it when you can't? Just go on a cruise or something that is all inclusive. Hn we ave you bought your plane ticket? I just don't want to hear you in mid April that you're going in May now and just keep bullshiting everyone, so please answer these questions when you get a chance as I am very interested to hear your answers.

BlackHawk,

Once again I will listen to my elders and the words of wisdom and I will now convince my boys to just hold off on our 2nd CTG trip till 4th of July weekend as it does sound more fun (but is just so damn far away)! Where will you be going on Thanksgiving then? So I'm leaning towards paying the $20 to Jackson so I can get your E-mail address and we can just communicate that way when we're ready to go on our trips. How safe is this site to give my cc info?

I wouldn't worry about too much Tar Heel have a buddy that went to Medellin then flew to Santa Marta did Rodadero, Tayronna Parque and some towns in between he spend 3000 dollars in 2 months. He isn't a member of this board but if you PM me I will give you his email. He's back down there now but it might be a while before he comes up for air. LOL

[QUOTE=DrTukan OC;1139540]How's it going Tar Heel, I know you might feel like we are picking on you at this forum but you have to realize that you are the one to blame for all this negative reaction to you. First you said you were going in March now apparently that's changed. Now I have a good question for you, Is $1000 for 2 weeks still your budget? If so, how do you plan to travel to Medellin, Pereira, Cartagena and Cali which are all hours away from each other on that budget? There is just no way dude! The ride and the food will take your $65 per day, where will you sleep? Are you even going to Colombia? I mean my thing is that if you're going to be on such a tight budget why go on vacation and pretend like you can afford it when you can't? Just go on a cruise or something that is all inclusive. Hn we ave you bought your plane ticket? I just don't want to hear you in mid April that you're going in May now and just keep bullshiting everyone, so please answer these questions when you get a chance as I am very interested to hear your answers.[/QUOTE]Doing good bro. Trust me I could careless about what anyone on any internet forum has to say about me. Soo the "picking on" as you call it doesn't affect me in the slightest. I came on this forum to get info, which I got. In return I'll post some info of my trip that might help out any future travelers. Yes my trip dates have changed, been pushed back a month. Ill be in Colombia April 11. 27. 1200 dollars will be my budget. And no I am not going to Medellin, Cali ect. Only going to Cartagena, Baranquilla, and Santa Marta. That might be a tight budget for you but it isn't for me. 80 bucks is plenty. Obviously if I was planning on paying females 100 for sex everyday, eating out at restaurants, staying in nice hotels / condos than yea it would be a REAL tight budget. Not pretending anything buddy. Been to Mexico, Brasil, and Costa Rica on similar budgets and did just fine (fucked girls, partied, hell even got some casino time!) Ill leave the all inclusive cruises to teens and old people. Thats not my stezz if you know what I mean. PS tickets have already been bought. Actually had to pay to get the dates changed.

Cheers!

I doubt DrToucanOC knows what apartment I am staying seeing it is the Penthouse in Mirador but I bet Loco does seeing he built it. A pic of the one you liked Locogringo have fun there in April I have to be in MDE

First off hats off to hillbilly. Some of the best pics I've seen on here in a while. Now I'd love to hear some stories about the different girls!

Actually surprised to see some of those girls on the beach in Cartagena as I rarely see a ton of talent on the beach. Especially of the more fair skinned Paisa variety.

Maybe because I have only been there February / March which is low season. Although perfect weather for me.

Second. Why are people getting so excited about other people's budgets? We all come from different backgrounds and have different definitions of a good time. All I care about is that people aren't rude and never just let people overcharge them because they are foreigners. The older and more successful I have become the more I tend to spend. Less tolerance for: lower rate apartments, working too hard to pick up a non pro or constantly bargain shopping. However, I guaranty you I would have a much better time on a 50 dollar a day budget in Cartagena than on 200 a day in the midwest in March / April.

We don't have to assume that people are picking up pros everyday. I know that I had sex 18 of the 20 days I was in Colombia and only paid on 3 occasions. You can pick up non pros in Cartagena and if you have some game and are good looking and can dance you can even pick them up in regular bars (not needing to set it up during the day or online). Also some nights its just great to chill and get away from the hectic life. Average out those nights with the more crazy nights.

If they are truly non pros it really shouldn't be that expensive. Over my trips I have been with about 7 non pros and the only ones that ordered expensive things were the pros in disguise. In fact the 3 non pros I was with on this last trip always ordered the cheapest thing on the menu whenever we went out. I had to insist that they order more or better options.

My only caveat to the non pro is that the super hot Cartagena non pros aren't that plentiful and will be very difficult to pick up. I don't think this is the case in other cities.

Finally, I have seen instances where a working girl went home with someone knowing there was absolutely no money involved. Happened to a friend of mine on the last trip.

Now lets hear some good stories!

Don't really care how much money people have in their budget. I have friends who are rich, friends that are poor. I took a relative with me to Cartagena recently who was much younger than me. He had awesome time spent 600 dollars for the week had 5 or 6 girls and had time of his life. He is going again soon, [ I am certainly going to hell ], but he had very nice chicas there including a LDV and Electra girl. I won't get into my travels I want to be low key on this site, I only want to share info which is same reason I ever want to be on boards.

Hats off to Jackson for taking off moderation in Colombian Forum it makes things alot better.

Had the pleasure of seeing Hillbilly on my last trip. Great guy, good experience in Colombia, bonita paisa with him. You can do Colombia a multitude of ways depending on what you want to spend. I am heading for Cartagena today, then Cali on my monthly trip. Haven't missed it for 10 years but before long I will retire my dick with Willy.

Nice pics! I apologize for the drama to you and others.

I just don't appreciate people attacking young guys who aren't millionaires going to Cartagena trying to go on trips and having a good time.

I not a big enough smug prick to play Class warfare with people with less money or time than me, I leave that up to others.

I'd like to visit Cartagena but have been put off by the prices. I'd love a few tips on how to manage it without overpaying for things.

Good luck with the trip. I am anxious to read your reports.

By the way try to rent the anthony bourdain video about Colombia. He visits a little island about 30 minutes from the beach. Inhabitants are all black and fresh lobster is served caribbean style. Has anyone been there?

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1140351]99. 5% that DrParrottOC is just another one of Blackhawk's handles.

Similar homophobia, clearly not a native english speaker, aggressiveness, intolerance.

My guess is middle eastern descent, right Blackhawk? I'll really go on a limb and say, mmmm, iranian, just 'cause there's lots of them in Cali I think, but could be lebanese?

Shame Jackson does so little to control the trolls.

BTW nice pics hillbilly and loco. [/QUOTE]Definately makes since it is Blackhawk. But I think Jackson relizes it too seing their both under moderation.

But he is different poses from same chics from yesterday.

Don't look like Blackhawk can run with the big boys-Kiddee board is down the street!

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1140262]Had the pleasure of seeing Hillbilly on my last trip. Great guy, good experience in Colombia, bonita paisa with him. You can do Colombia a multitude of ways depending on what you want to spend. I am heading for Cartagena today, then Cali on my monthly trip. Haven't missed it for 10 years but before long I will retire my dick with Willy.[/QUOTE]That red hair drives me nuts. Hope you don't mind I re-posted your foto.

Agreed. And for sure a small wallet and / or penis. I've never seen a guy get so angry about someone else's travel budget. LMAO.

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1140351]99. 5% that DrParrottOC is just another one of Blackhawk's handles.

Similar homophobia, clearly not a native english speaker, aggressiveness, intolerance.

My guess is middle eastern descent, right Blackhawk? I'll really go on a limb and say, mmmm, iranian, just 'cause there's lots of them in Cali I think, but could be lebanese?

Shame Jackson does so little to control the trolls.

BTW nice pics hillbilly and loco. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1139200]Not much new in Cartagena-Tony is slimmer so is Playa Hollywood. [the beach]

Sidewalks in Laguito still run down as is the sidewalks in Bocagrande.

LDV is sill there and Electra is hopping between 3am and 430 am. So freelance bars are still alive and well.

Centro slowly but surely is getting fixed up a little bit more each trip and seems to have a few more small stores and Hotels popping up.

Intercontinental and a Raddison Hotel getting constructed.

The Poseidon apartment building directly across from LDV is nearly complete.

Still plenty of girls at beach and Tony doesn't seem to be pushing them much. Maybe he gets a cut from the other guy sitting next to him who knows?

Tony is preoccupied with his wife moving to Bogota without him. Boo hoo hoo-LOL.

Mery is doing better after car accident.

Mirador Del Laguito still only letting one girl in per person.

Real estate prices are almost double.

Ran into guy that owns Paraiso Del Marino Club [strip club and girls]. I remember when it first opened.

He says it never closes and he has 40 chics there and open 24 hours. Personally never had girl from there but seen some. Real nice! .

20 minute taxi ride from Laguito.

Paraiso Del Marino Club

Nuevo Campestre.

Calle 10 No56B-51.

Tel 657-1922.

Manager of Isis is now the manager of Queens.

Tania still works at Isis if your looking for her Hilltopper. LOL[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the intel and refreshing post, Hillbilly. I haven't run into Tania since the only time I sessioned with her and another chica who I met en la playa. From the sound of things, I guess I haven't run into her because I haven't stopped-in Isis. If I'm not mistaken, I believe the time I asked for her info was back during the early Summer of 2009. Time sure flies. I thought she was fun, laid back, good both in and out of the cama. Appreciated the info then and appreciate the info now, as I might just have to stop-in there this Summer for a look-see.

Thanks again.

HT

A little late with the beach pics from Cartagena Playa Hollywood but here is a few.without comment-

And yes I am still a Virgin

[QUOTE=Hilltoppper;1140538]You are the imposter Hilltopper, stealing my handle from another board. How dare you! No problem, as I heard you are a good guy, so nice that you pay the rent for a puta, pay for her to go to school, give her spending money, and a visa card to use in case she has an emergency, and all along she is fucking other members from the board here. That is what you call a good guy, or I guess it could be called ignorant. How do I know this, because I was the one fucking her, and showed you the pics on the beach, still do, not to mention having walked back to your condo with you in Laguito Mirador so you could ask her about it, while you were in full blown tears. Also still had the pics to prove it, which I showed you. What is even worse is you continued to support her financially, despite the fact I proved to you she was not your girlfriend, but everyones girlfriend nightly. Good luck girl though, but turned out to be a thief.[/QUOTE]Ouch! Now that's what I call the poster child WESTERN UNION NOVIO to the 10th power, LOL. Paying for school, credit cards, Studio F runs, More Clothes, Paying her rent, Trips to San Andres all while other mongers are fucking the shit out of her? Fuckkkkk, Any guys worst nightmare with a "novia" in Colombia!

All of these, pseudo identities, multiple handles, people posting the same images under multiple handles. I think I'm going to need a playbook! Je je LOL

Does anyone know fabio vasquez? He is a wingman and I need to know if he is reputable.

[quote=palermo; 1141146]damn, nice pics hillbilly, i'll take the last one, #5167 please.

i think maybe i need to go back to cartagena. [/quote]thanks but my cali pics trump anything i have ever had in cartagena or medellin.

cartagena was a fucking blast this last trip. my younger relative being with me helped and fact that locogringo and speedbump were there made it that more enjoyable for me also. we had a mishap at the barranquilla carnaval but i warned my relative in advance and he wouldn't listen, but he is going back soon, all the girls liked him better. lol.

as for me cartagena is just another stop, i mix it up between cali, medellin, santo domingo, santiago and the north coast of the dr.

Hello gentlemen,

I am in Cartagena now, in Hotel Dann,

And would like to ask for some help.

I think that LDV is close to this hotel?

Does LDV open on Sunday night?

Anybody qwould like to meet tonight at LDV or other venue?

Greetings and thanks in advance for your advice

After searching for a while in the forum,

I finally found out that LDV is just across the street from my hotel.

Unfortunately when asked in the reception I was told that visitors are forbidenn in the rooms.

And since I have to go to a meeting early, decided to just check out things from the balcony of my hotel room before going to bed.

I saw that before 11 pm there were almost no girls arriving, but around 11 they arrived from both entrances to the Centro Comercial. I saw some nice girls arriving, although from my point of view I could not really tell for sure.

Around 11:30 (Around the time I am writting this report) , almost only fellows arrived to the place, almost no "new girls" arrived.

So I guess arriving at around 11 is a good time since most of the pretty ones are probably not already "taken".

I also noticed that several times some fellows went out for smoking. I do not know if that is compulsory by LDV rules or local regulations? Or it wast too hot inside and guys wanted to go out to smoke?

In any case if it is forbidenn to smoke inside it is good for non-smokers.

I saw around 30 girls in total coming and leaving the place, and I would guess the ratio of girls to guys is around 1. 5:1.

Of course it seems that a Sunday night is a bit slow, I would guess on Friday and Saturday the place is more crowded. Several taxis available in the area, so transportation doesn't seem an issue.

I will try to go tomorrow at least to have some beers and check the enviroment.

I will check again with the hotel for permission to have visitors. Since the company, I work for, made the reservation I could not look for a GF hotel.

Hope I can move to another place soon.

Location of this hotel is sooo convenient for visiting LDV, too bad the non-visitors in the room rule.

Perhaps there is a Love motel around the area, will tray to find out.

Would like to meet with some fellows in the coming days if anynone is up for some beers.

Hope the info is somehow useful.

[QUOTE=Bolman; 1141240]Hello, gentlemen,

I am in Cartagena now, in Hotel Dann,

And would like to ask for some help.

I think that LDV is close to this hotel?

Does LDV open on Sunday night?

Anybody qwould like to meet tonight at LDV or other venue?

Greetings and thanks in advance for your advice[/QUOTE]LDV is in Pierino Gallo Shopping Center, nearby to Hotel Dann and is always open, not closed on Sunday

Hey everyone, I got into Cartagena last night, scoped out Isis, which looked great, beer was 10, 000 pesos and there were about 15 girls just sitting around, a lot good looking ones. I asked the server there and he said services started at 250k, and 500k for the whole night. Does anyone visit this bar, if so how low can you usually bargain with these girls? I ended up going to LDV and talked a girl down to 125k and had a GFE in my apartment.

[QUOTE=Sansgonzales7;1142368]Hey everyone, I got into Cartagena last night, scoped out Isis, which looked great, beer was 10, 000 pesos and there were about 15 girls just sitting around, a lot good looking ones. I asked the server there and he said services started at 250k, and 500k for the whole night. Does anyone visit this bar, if so how low can you usually bargain with these girls? I ended up going to LDV and talked a girl down to 125k and had a GFE in my apartment.[/QUOTE]The girls in Isis are way to expensive since you have to pay a barfine if you take them out. Also be careful there of the waiters. They sometimes pad your bill, or try to get you to pay for lady drinks you did not order. If you must go to Isis then try to get their phone numbers. BTW they are very beautiful I must agree with that.

Isis is owned by same guy that owns Pleyclub. You should just get their phone number at night then call them during the day. The girls have to be back at the house they live in by 6pm.

Forgot, the most I would pay a ISIS girl by day is about 150k pesos for an hour. Beach girls are your cheapest option at 50k-100k but don't use a tout [ an inbetween guy] unless you want to get lubed and pay double.

Just learned that my cruise ship will only be in port from 7 am. 2 pm. WTF? What's my best option for going to a place in the morning? Thanks Again.

BTW, my buddy owns a liquor store in Sosua, DR if someone needs to get hooked up there. Although a blind man would have a difficult time avoiding the girls in that place!

I started a map on google. It has some points of interests. Add what casa or any other point of interest you feel the need for. Queens is a guess on location I can walk there but overhead view I can't quite figure it out. LOL I may add more this weekend.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url]

Very nice Hillbilly, well done.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1143008]I started a map on google. It has some points of interests. Add what casa or any other point of interest you feel the need for. Queens is a guess on location I can walk there but overhead view I can't quite figure it out. LOL I may add more this weekend.

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[QUOTE=Artful;1143143]Very nice Hillbilly, well done.[/QUOTE]I added some things it is a project to keep me occupied more to come.

Add whatever you guys feel the need for, atm's, apartments, dentist office, Casa.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1143186]Good job! Hopefully the personal messages will go your way now, which is great for me! Might want to add a place like Cafe del Mar.[/QUOTE]World Travelers Lists are the ones everyone copies. It is Just time to put info on a Google Map with all the info, websites and prices. I may expand it to Medellin, Cali and the DR if I feel ambitious.

It would be good spot for you to put on your North Coast stuff Urbanwildlife.

I was about to book a flight to Bogota for next weekend and came across a posting that Semana Santa starts on the 18 of April and that the city would be dead. Glad I didn't book.

What about Cartagena during this week? In terms of freebies and prepagas and P4P and everything else.

Looking to book the flight soon so early response is greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Sean EZ; 1143319]I was about to book a flight to Bogota for next weekend and came across a posting that Semana Santa starts on the 18 of April and that the city would be dead. Glad I didn't book.

What about Cartagena during this week? In terms of freebies and prepagas and P4P and everything else.

Looking to book the flight soon so early response is greatly appreciated. [/QUOTE]Navidades (Christmas) and Semana Santa are the main domestic holiday seasons in Colombia. Semana Santa probably more than Christmas. Colombians who can afford it will go to the sea-side or other nice destinations. Cartagena should be full of domestic tourists. Pros as well as semi-pros will be attracted in order to make business. Make sure that you have a hotel / apartment reservation. I think Cartagena is a perfect destination, much better than Bogota. Although I avoid this season (temporada alta) because prices for accomodation are much higher than throughout the rest of the year. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1140314]Nice pics! I apologize for the drama to you and others.

I just don't appreciate people attacking young guys who aren't millionaires going to Cartagena trying to go on trips and having a good time.

I not a big enough smug prick to play Class warfare with people with less money or time than me, I leave that up to others. [/QUOTE]Reminds me of the South Park episode about "SMUG" (LOL) My budget has me in Tijuana a few times a year, but I've always liked what I've seen in the Colombia gallery. Great photos HB and I've seen 'class warfare' in the Thai section. A beautiful woman is a beautiful woman no matter how much or little is paid. I usually pay 50 in Tijuana, sometimes I forget that it's P4P and sometimes I'm quite aware that I'm "NEXT" (LOL)

It's always nice to see others standing up for another. .

I've read two somewhat conflicting reports on what goes on in CTG during Semana Santa. An older posts states it's a bad time for mongering due to the lack of working women. I know Cali is so dead during Christmas time that the clubs are sometimes closed. Anybody spend time in CTG during Semana Santa?

I'll be in CTG April 20-21 (Wed and Thurs) staying at Hotel Don Pedro De Heredia. I'll be sure to report on my trip. Anyone know much about this hotel and / or how close it is to the action?

Thanks.

Kdog

I will be in Buenos Aires at the same time.

Yes, it will be slow, but some action will be had.

Let us know?

UOTE=Kdog; 1144891]I've read two somewhat conflicting reports on what goes on in CTG during Semana Santa. An older posts states it's a bad time for mongering due to the lack of working women. I know Cali is so dead during Christmas time that the clubs are sometimes closed. Anybody spend time in CTG during Semana Santa?

I'll be in CTG April 20-21 (Wed and Thurs) staying at Hotel Don Pedro De Heredia. I'll be sure to report on my trip. Anyone know much about this hotel and / or how close it is to the action?

Thanks.

Kdog[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kdog; 1144891]I've read two somewhat conflicting reports on what goes on in CTG during Semana Santa. An older posts states it's a bad time for mongering due to the lack of working women. I know Cali is so dead during Christmas time that the clubs are sometimes closed. Anybody spend time in CTG during Semana Santa?

I'll be in CTG April 20-21 (Wed and Thurs) staying at Hotel Don Pedro De Heredia. I'll be sure to report on my trip. Anyone know much about this hotel and / or how close it is to the action?

Thanks.

Kdog[/QUOTE]There should be ample working women there on the 20th and 21st and also those on vacation who don't consider themself to be one, but who are willing to to take advantage of the opportunity to make a few pesos and have some fun with you. Given your short stay, for working girls you might just consider sticking with the well-reviewed spots (such as LDV and Electra, oh and you might as well shoot in Queens and Isis for a looksee since you're in the old city) at night and playa hollywood during the day.

I can't give you any personal experience in re to your hotel choice, but I can say that since it is in the old (walled) city you'll be in walking distance to most everything within the old city, and a short / inexpensive taxi ride to places like LDV outside of the wall. Check out Hillbilly's post with the Google map of CTG to get your bearings.

You didn't specifically ask this question, but my guess is that bringing back an obvious working girl to your hotel room may be frowned upon (or even more of a problem). A hotel such as where you are staying is typically geared toward more traditional tourists, like couples who met before that night, etc. If that's the case, you'll want to do the deed at one of the motels mentioned in World Travel's detailed list report in the lists thread. Again, no personal experience at that hotel, just a guess.

With you only being there a couple of nights, I wouldn't sweat it if the hotel isn't chica-friendly. I'd just enjoy all the sights, sounds and history of the old city and do the deed at one of the love motels. Be sure to check out what World Travel has to say in his list, especially in re to the two love motels near the airport.

Have a good one and at the end of the day let us know how it went.

There are plenty of chicas available until Easter in Cartagena. Some of the casas lose some girls that will go home butI do not there are girls that come here to get some school money during their holiday. I met a 19 year old from Cali that just arrived and is staying for a week, beautiful black haired chica and willing to learn. Some of the chicas I met when they started here, both Cartagena and other city chicas, end up at La Dolce or Tu Candela with big numbers. 200-400K, after they become a sesoned pro. You can always use some of the short time motels if your hotel is restrictive. I am also posting a short daytime casa list under Cartagena lists today.

I will be sure to give a trip report. I've been to Medellin, Cali, and Bogota many times. I'm looking forward to reporting on the differences, both good and bad, that I find.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1143008]I started a map on google. It has some points of interests. Add what casa or any other point of interest you feel the need for. Queens is a guess on location I can walk there but overhead view I can't quite figure it out. LOL I may add more this weekend.

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My 7 years of experience traveling to Cartagena just got equalized by your map.

But seriously, nice job. Wish I would have had one of those 7 years ago.

[QUOTE=Bolman; 1141333]After searching for a while in the forum,

I finally found out that LDV is just across the street from my hotel.

Unfortunately when asked in the reception I was told that visitors are forbidenn in the rooms.

Perhaps there is a Love motel around the area, will tray to find out.

Would like to meet with some fellows in the coming days if anynone is up for some beers.

Hope the info is somehow useful. [/QUOTE]The Chicas know the love hotels, just tell the taxi driver "hotel economico"

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69;1143186]Good job! Hopefully the personal messages will go your way now, which is great for me! Might want to add a place like Cafe del Mar.[/QUOTE]And it's countetpart at the other end of the wall: Casa de Cerveza (or something like that).

[QUOTE=TheShadow2; 1145896]Dude!

My 7 years of experience traveling to Cartagena just got equalized by your map.

But seriously, nice job. Wish I would have had one of those 7 years ago. [/QUOTE]I know what you mean- my first trip to Medellin 12 years ago I was pretty much on my own as far as info.

The Map is getting adjusted continuously but furthest East and South I have been as far as Casas is Pleyclub.

Bocagrande there is way too many different shops, Cambios, Atm's and Hotels to list but

I will add a few as I see fit.

I also did not list the new disco right next to the LDV, I don't remember the name but don't see the point seeing it just seems to take the overflow from LDV.

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[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1146128]I know what you mean- my first trip to Medellin 12 years ago I was pretty much on my own as far as info.

The Map is getting adjusted continuously but furthest East and South I have been as far as Casas is Pleyclub.

Bocagrande there is way too many different shops, Cambios, Atm's and Hotels to list but

I will add a few as I see fit.

I also did not list the new disco right next to the LDV, I don't remember the name but don't see the point seeing it just seems to take the overflow from LDV.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url][/QUOTE]Thank you for the map! I just printed it out for my first trip ever: Apr 29 to May 04.

I am trying to figure out apartments / hotels now.

Amigos. Does anyone know a decent guide in Cartagena. Hopefully someone with a car that we can rent for the night. I want to do normal Casa and club thing but also go on a few day trips to the surrounding areas. Staying at the Hilton. I'm sure they have someone that will overcharge me but I prefer to use a local guy that needs the money and benefits. If anyone wants to hook up for some drinks and fun send me a pm.

First trip to Colombia coming up May 30. Going solo so I am a little anxious but I think this map will help a lot. I picked this trip over a return to the Oxygen Retreat in the DR. Of course this will be a lot less expensive and hopefully as much fun. Set up an appt with Juan for the visit.

Any advice to this newbie is appreciated.