Madagascar

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2447736]Welcome to the Mada-thread. Not many newcomers do an intro as you did but only ask silly questions which are written here before. They get a bashing.

But let me answer your questions as someone going there since 2008.

You will be safe as experienced traveller. Just follow the rules for single travellers not to show up, be friendly but still watch your back. And you will be fine.

Improve your french language skills if you want to venture further than Glacier Disco. Even many of the girls not speak french well. But if there are any problems, someone will.

If you want to stay in places where many events are in walking distance you may note Tana center for the start, then Tamatave, NosyBe, IleStMarie, Tulear / Mangily and perhaps DiegoSuarez. Don't try to cover all. Distances are far. In 3 weeks, select 2 or 3 and also visit in between some of the parks along the road. And if you book taxi brousse or Cotisse bus well in advance, the style of travelling is not that bad but time consuming. Stay flexible with your planning.

Big Game Fishing operators you find in NosyBe and Toamasina. Select the right time of the year. Fly-fishing in the streams in the parks is possible, but you can't stay there overnight.

Good luck -- and if you discover something new, let us know.[/QUOTE]Thank you for taking the time to reply. That's really helpful. Have you ventured extensively to many other countries on the continent? Would any surpass Madagascar for my needs do you think?

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2447705]Failed to RTFF? So RTFF again.[/QUOTE]Of the four specifics I asked advice about, which specifics do you think the previous 50 pages adequately covered that I missed?

[QUOTE=BillyZoo;2447576]First post, so be nice. It's also a bit of an essay so apologies.

Over the last half week or so I've read (literally) the last 50 pages of the Mada forum and more than the odd page from one or two other countries too, so the RTFF box (for Mada at least) is ticked. I've got the general gist of what to expect.

I have a particular set of needs (don't pull up a chair it isn't that juicy) some of which are in common with the ethos of the board, some not. I've posted in Mada as I can see there is a fair bit of experience here, and importantly some with differing opinions and thoughts regularly posting here.

I am early 50's (look younger & in decent nick) and I want to go to somewhere in Africa flying from UK, probably for 3-4 weeks. Exactly when depends on the venue / climate and obviously see-19 lock down being lifted. I speak English, a little French (I can and will improve if need be) and less Spanish. I would consider bouncing to a few different venues, maybe 5/6/7 days in each place depending on logistics, cost of internal flights / transport time etc. This could include different countries in close proximity. So with that in mind, I'd value the advice as to what country / countries might fit my needs as a first timer to Africa bearing in mind the following wants / needs.

1. I am an experienced traveler but I am travelling alone so safety is paramount. Yes I know sh1t can happen everywhere. I won't be flashing the cash & acting like Billy Big Bo11ocks. I won't be sporting a vlogging camera on a 10 ft selfie stick or have a 1000 Canon hanging round my neck, but neither do I want to spend 3 weeks looking over my shoulder or worrying I might get stabbed for chatting up a local girl.

2. I want a good choice of bars and restaurants, within a safe walk and / or where taxis / transport are easy to get and plentiful. Getting safely back to the room is a major priority should I have the odd late night.

3. Fishing. Specifically I must have places with fishing close by. By fishing I do not mean charter boats and tourist excursions (I can find this out elsewhere). I mean places where I can literally rock out of my room at dawn / dusk and within a short walk be next to the water albeit by a beach, a lake, or a river. The quality of the fishing isn't massively important, it just needs to be accessible and as aesthetically pleasing a place as possible. The option of a longer walk or a taxi / bike ride to somewhere more remote is also a plus.

4. Last but not least, the reason we are here. The ideal scenario for me is somewhere I can blend in without too much fuss. Where I can easily make an acquaintance or two & have a bit of a crack. I'm not really one for 'Hi. How much?' as an opening line. It's not my thing. I like a rapport. That said after 5 days of sleeping alone, who knows?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]If you RTFF then you know it's Kenya. Number one Destination for Africa rookies. Bamburi or Mtwapa. Mombasa North Coast for fucking. World Class beaches. Fishing go to Watamu or Ukunda/Diani. Madagascar is for advanced Africa mongers.

Read all my posts in the Kenyan forums. No need to look further.

Neddy.
What du you mean by aesthetically pleasing. LOL

[QUOTE=BillyZoo;2447872]Thank you for taking the time to reply. That's really helpful. Have you ventured extensively to many other countries on the continent? Would any surpass Madagascar for my needs do you think?[/QUOTE]I did. To several African countries.

I may quote our primus inter pares here, Neddy: as newcomer go to Kenya, in particular Mombasa.

But if you are not so much in party, drinking and big booties. Plus speak some French: venture to Mada.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2448017]If you RTFF then you know it's Kenya. Number one Destination for Africa rookies. Bamburi or Mtwapa. Mombasa North Coast for fucking. World Class beaches. Fishing go to Watamu or Ukunda/Diani. Madagascar is for advanced Africa mongers.

Read all my posts in the Kenyan forums. No need to look further.

Neddy.
What du you mean by aesthetically pleasing. LOL[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for your help, most kind.

Wrt 'aesthetically pleasing' I was referring to the surrounding countryside, the scenery, sea views etc. To have fishing on my doorstep in a beautiful spot is a massive deal (to me). After personal safety it is the biggest issue, wherever I stay. I especially like to find places where the fishing spots are not crowded or, as yet, too heavily commercialized. That said, I appreciate that 'aesthetically pleasing' can have other connotations, which also make for a more interesting day when the fishing is slow. I would not be opposed to this either.

I have family and friends who have visited Kenya and whilst they have said nothing to put me off, it does seem to be the first stop in Africa for many UK tourists, perhaps subconsciously that's why I never ventured to that forum first? I do have a need for something a bit off the beaten path, different from the usual tourist locations. That said, I will absolutely take your advice on board and start reading those forums in earnest. Thank you once again.

So no lock down in Toliara? Girls are out and about flaunting their assets!? I recall some sweet assets like this one who took all my deposits anytime day or night.

Then it's paradise but outside of the abundance nice talent, Toliara is an ugly town, not scenic at all with lot's of sand dust everywhere.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2446403]I finally got word from my mate in Tulear. He got stuck there intentionally. He pays in LE Recif 40 k AR a day. 8 or 9 chicas can be had for a lunch or 20 k AR. And the best part. He overstayed his visa already 2 months free of charge. In a nutshell. Paradise.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2448258]So no lock down in Toliara? Girls are out and about flaunting their assets!? I recall some sweet assets like this one who took all my deposits anytime day or night.

Then it's paradise but outside of the abundance nice talent, Toliara is an ugly town, not scenic at all with lot's of sand dust everywhere.[/QUOTE]Rough or not Rough. And I know north uganda.

If I look on your pictures then I will lost my brain. If tulear has really many and many easy foundable and accessible girls like this, then I must visit this town.

At the moment I am not sure which city. Tana of course. But I want to visit tamatave, too. And this for 3/4 weeks, it will be to much travel if I go to tulear, too. I am not sure.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2448258]So no lock down in Toliara? Girls are out and about flaunting their assets!? I recall some sweet assets like this one who took all my deposits anytime day or night.

Then it's paradise but outside of the abundance nice talent, Toliara is an ugly town, not scenic at all with lot's of sand dust everywhere.[/QUOTE]Fantastic Brasil. I think I recognize that ass, wish I could see her face!

You inbox is still full Brasil, I have tried to PM you a couple times!

Yesterday it appears that the govt put further travel restriction in place in several regions of Mada, prohibiting all travel except transport of merchandise, sick and dead. From this link:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/gouverneuranalamanga/posts/252226662852055[/URL]

And translation below. Anyone in country have further information on this? My contacts in country tell me that the restriction is for all of the country, although this communique indicates only a few central regions (which would essentially cut off the south and the north since the only roads go through the central highlands). Wondering if it is really this bad or if this is some manipulation by the government.

Google Translation:

IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.

LOSS AND LOSS OF LARGE LICENSE LICENSES PROVIDED UNTIL MAY 11,2020 AT 12 AM.

In the face of increasing numbers of people with Coronavirus infection because of the contagion that has already spread to other cities (Moramanga, Antsirabe), strict measures must be taken to limit the movement of people.

Please:

1- Any valid or current license issued by the CCO, MTTM or MID (Prefect, District.) shall be valid and void any of the following: Analamanga, East, High Temperature; starting Monday, May 11,2020 at 12 noon.

2- Therefore, access and access to these areas is prohibited (Public walking, public transport, motorcycles.); and this is NOT a solution that can be provided in health-related barriers but must be followed.

3- Large vehicles carrying merchandise and vehicles carrying sick or dead can walk only with clear evidence.

Please keep these rules in order to avoid difficulties.

[QUOTE=VavyLover;2450390]Yesterday it appears that the govt put further travel restriction in place in several regions of Mada, prohibiting all travel except transport of merchandise, sick and dead. From this link:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/gouverneuranalamanga/posts/252226662852055[/URL]

And translation below. Anyone in country have further information on this? My contacts in country tell me that the restriction is for all of the country, although this communique indicates only a few central regions (which would essentially cut off the south and the north since the only roads go through the central highlands). Wondering if it is really this bad or if this is some manipulation by the government.

Google Translation:

Important discussion.

Loss and loss of large license licenses provided until May 11,2020 AT 12 AM.

In the face of increasing numbers of people with Coronavirus infection because of the contagion that has already spread to other cities (Moramanga, Antsirabe), strict measures must be taken to limit the movement of people.

Please:.[/QUOTE]It is for all traffic between these regions (Antananarivo area, High Plateaux area, Tamatave area) inside them and for all roads leaving these region. For example: impossible to go from Antananarivo to MAJUNGA (or return) or to Diego or from Fianarantsoa to Toliara.

[QUOTE=FishermanBert;2446462]Hey everyone,

New here on the Madagascar scene, I'm thinking of going there soon after flights are available, I plan on staying in Tamatave region, Is the calypso hotel girl friendly? I already got 2 targets locked until I get there, but now I'm looking for a good place to stay and still can have girls in my room. What do you guys advice?[/QUOTE]For your info, curfew is from 13.00 to 05.00 in Tamatave. It is presently the most affected by the virus (with Antananarivo). And with the two deaths of the country up to date, just yesterday. If you are found in the street after 1 pm, either the police give you a brush to clean the street, or put you in a lorry, drive 20 km. For you to come back to the city by foot.

It is the clever way to punish in a country where fines would be useless as the population has no money!

The lockdown was extended:

The Madagascan President spoke on the air Sunday, May 17. Faced with the increase in the number of cases of people contaminated by Covid-19, a fourth region (Alaotra Mangoro) is now added to the three regions (Analamanga, Atsinanana, Haute-Matsiatra) previously subjected to partial containment. He indicated that tighter movement controls would be ensured to combat "the slackening observed in recent weeks". The suspension of international air links will last at least until June 11,2020.

Means, before June 11th you definitely can't get in. And after that date unlikely that the international airports will open for everyone with ease.

"Means, before June 11th you definitely can't get in. And after that date unlikely that the international airports will open for everyone with ease."

Not exactly surprising. I was hoping for July but that seems wishful thinking. Crossing my fingers August is doable.

SE.

Covid 19 peak for Africa is expected for June, of course Madagascar is an island with closed borders but I would be surprised if traveling there is possible in a few weeks. Until now it's also impossible to go by taxi brousse. I hope it's possible to go there end of this year.

The road took 24 h years ago but now its possible to take TB for only 6 hours. And see all village in the way. Here is the new LP June 2020 edition.

Although its seems the route pass the coast instead of the normal bypass inland I don't believe them its only 6 h.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2452767]The road took 24 h years ago but now its possible to take TB for only 6 hours. And see all village in the way. Here is the new LP June 2020 edition.

Although its seems the route pass the coast instead of the normal bypass inland I don't believe them its only 6 h.[/QUOTE]Its nothing new. The first part of the tarred road was built 4 years ago to lead to the Base mining area. But then the Malagasy government indefinitely suspended activities of the Base Toliara mine project.

The road passes Mangily, but then goes further inland through a dry sand region. Nothing much to see. After 100 km it turns off onto a sand piste to Morombe, another 160 km. Camion brousse (not taxi brousse) takes a day from Tulear. With a 4 x4 you may make it in 6 hours. But for a price.

To Morondava further north its an adventorous 4 x4 trip. 2 days?

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2452913] Camion brousse (not taxi brousse)
To Morondava further north its an adventorous 4 x4 trip. 2 days?[/QUOTE]Those villages have just 2000 population so not sure if girls will worth the effort. Toliara has 150 K but its looks like 30 K to me as it feels like small town but that's not a bad thing.

Fort Dauphin (Taolagnaro) has 60 k population I am tempting to visit. Any info?

I am counting on August hoping COVID ends from Mid October the heat in Toliara is hell.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2452975]
Fort Dauphin (Taolagnaro) has 60 k population I am tempting to visit. Any info?

I am counting on August hoping COVID ends from Mid October the heat in Toliara is hell.[/QUOTE]FT Dauphin is a rotten little secret. Run down like a Western town after the gold rush. It was famous in 2006 as the city with the highest number of Syphillis cases (from the mine workers from SA). Now the South-African ilmenite mine is fenced in. No money goes into the villages but into the pockets in Tana only.

One problem exists: You only can go tere by flight from and to Tana. The 2 roads are a 3 to 4 days torture to Tulear or to Farafagana in the north. And those roads are even unpassable from December to April: rain rain rain.

There are 2 sort of discos with music only over the weekends. But as vahaza after 2 days everyone knows what you looking for and the hotel guards will bring ample companionship to your room.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2453178] You only can go tere by flight from and to Tana. [/QUOTE]Just played with Tsaradia booking engine they fly now from Toliara. Very cheap under 5 kg bag but trust me you can take two bags to cabin. 61 EURO one way.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2453246]Just played with Tsaradia booking engine they fly now from Toliara. Very cheap under 5 kg bag but trust me you can take two bags to cabin. 61 EURO one way.[/QUOTE]They had that flight before. But it was on and off. Don't rely on it.
And the 61 EU fare you also can get to Tana if you book early.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2439597]Who here is in TOLIARA or MANGILY right now? Can you give us an idea how life is for you as a monger? Maybe some expatriates living there can explain better![/QUOTE]And you where are you?

I am in Majunga.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2453178]FT Dauphin is a rotten little secret. Run down like a Western town after the gold rush. It was famous in 2006 as the city with the highest number of Syphillis cases (from the mine workers from SA). Now the South-African ilmenite mine is fenced in. No money goes into the villages but into the pockets in Tana only.

One problem exists: You only can go tere by flight from and to Tana. [/QUOTE]One can also fly with Air Mada or Air Austral from Reunion island to Tulear with a stop over in Fort Dauphin.

You can go off the plane in Fort dauphin.

Are either of those airlines still operating outside of Mada?

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2455825]Are either of those airlines still operating outside of Mada?[/QUOTE]At the moment all international airports of Mada are closed. Only few repatriation flights controlled by the French Embassy, going to Reunion.

There is no date in sight when they will open again for the regular tourist.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2456279]There is no date in sight when they will open again for the regular tourist.[/QUOTE]Good, better to reopen when COVID is clear.

Earlier this year I got a normal flu in Nosy Be, I felt I was dying, took me two weeks to recover, Now just imagine a more violent form of it.

And Nosy Hospital? LOL only one doctor in the entire place and 100 people in Line. Conclusion. Mada is not a place to get sick.

Met up with Pokeris at Nosy Be late in Febuary as I recall. I forget a lot of the names of hotels and places so will describe them and others can help out with the names. I spent a good 3 weeks in country at Nosy Be / Hellville, Tomasina (Tomatave), and Antaninarivo.

First, I am a finicky monger who prefers GFE and has a certain type which is not so easy to find in the lowest common denominator places like Taxi Be. At least I try to find girls with no kids who are taller, chubbier, and have a civilian or college educated vibe if possible. Pokeris is a lot more flexible and racks up the numbers very quickly even though he is a tall attractive guy and only 30's.

NOSY BE: I stayed in that hotel just behind the casino with aircon. It's the best value for money you can find IMO. But still the roads and infrastructure are abysmal and power goes out fairly frequently. It rains too much too.

During the late morning, we head down to some supermarket to watch the girls walk by. I met one nice one via cold approach inside the market and had a couple good sessions with her. She was keen to meet more often but I was not very inspired as she is a 5/6 in my book. At least she was sweet. I met another one outside there who turned out to have kids and was clingy the one time I met up with her at Beach Club and afterwards via text. I met a fun attractive chubby girl with kids and Taxi Be and she gave great service with a good attitude and quickly figured out my idiosyncrasies which was great. She was experienced Taxi Be regular and never would bother me if I didn't talk to her first which I appreciated. I met one more girl at Taxi Be, a shy 18 year old who at first didn't want to go because of language gap. The waitress across the street translated the her that I didn't mind so she was all good. She was lighter skinned and attractive (maybe 6 ish), had a classy demure vibe, I loved her innocence. But she has wide shoulders relative her hips which is kinda a turn off to me. Still I really enjoyed the experience with her and felt lucky as she seemed in a class above most of the Taxi Be regulars. There were other girls I approached here and there during daytimes but got what I consider soft rejects.

There was one girl I would see in my hotel lobby often who is really my types but she was tied up with a guy who looked local or perhaps visiting from another part of Madagascar. Lucky him. There was another girl in the lobby who I talked to who turned out to be with a white guy. But I got her number and she slowly warmed up to me on whats app. However, I didn't want to meet up with her since she was betraying the guy who she was supposed to be dating, had a kid I think, and was only 6ish. For me, the fact that she was being proactive in trying to know me when her white boyfriend was in town showed bad character. Believe it or not, some girls actually respect their guys more than that, even in one of the poorest countries in teh world.

Finally one Sunday (or was it Saturday), Pokeris takes me to some disco open just 1-day / week way down the road along the beach. The ride there was a literal trip, bumping all over the place in dirt and mud. But when we got there, wow! Probably 200 ish people but not crowded because the venue is big and the beach in back is so broad and easily accommodates how ever many people come. IMO this set-up has by far the best selection and is a mix of all types including some families. We went out to the beach area. Pokeris and I talked to these 3 girls for awhile. 2 were quite attractive and one who was kinda tall had short shorts and a nice ass which I grabbed once without a slap or even scowl LOL. Pokeris ended up working on her while I was doing the same with her chubby friend. Then I saw another light skinned chubby girl I really liked so bolted after her. It turns out her whole family was there and within an hour, and some help from her English speaking male cousin who assured I really liked her, she was good to go back with me. Meanwhile, Pokeris set-up got messed up by some catfight on the beach which distracted all the girls and he wasn't able to find them again. However, he did get the Facebook of the tallish girl with nice ass and a couple days later, she was flirting like crazy with him. Usually Pokeris and I are attracted to different girls but in this case, we both liked her. He had a great session with her including anal 3 days after the discos. Then he tried to convince her to go down the road and visit me but she politely said no. These girls are not all about money and don't like to feel like hos.

On that same note, the one I took came again with her sisters to clean my room a couple days later and we bonded some more. I took her with me to Beach Club too but some other girls came along with Pokeris and one had native English fluency which was bizarre. Somehow, my girl got the impression that I was sleeping with one of them which is not true and her attitude on Facebook in the following days kinda got sour. She was too serious and didn't have good sense of humor for me anyway. She is totally fluent in written and spoken French (an educated type) but that's pretty useless for me. The language gap is real.

The trip to Hellville was very interesting for seeing all the beautiful architecture and seaside. I cold approached one fashionable looking young girl in an electronics shop in front of her friends and she gave me what's app. But in the following days, she was lukewarm and didn't seemed lazy about meeting up, especially given the distance.

As for prices, I followed advice of Pokeris and gave 40 - 50K. I only had one all-nighter (the girl from Disco on Beach) and regretted it because I just can't sleep well with someone else there who I don't know extremely well. The girls seemed ok with the money I have which is nice. I can't think of a bigger turn-off than bickering over money.

In general, I didn't feel very comfortable in Nosy Be. It sucks not knowing some Malagasy and / or French, the roads and infrastructure are just too bad, girls are mostly of African descent but smaller and softer, and it rains too much. The one shopping center we stopped by between Nosy Be and Hellville is a total joke. No customers except in the supermarket, totally dead. I did feel very safe day and night in casino area of Nosy Be and the beaches too. People there in general seem very soft and laid back. The hassles and discomfort come from the infrastructure, not the easygoing locals.

I'll write more in separate report on Tomasina and Antaninarivo.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2457322]In general, I didn't feel very comfortable in Nosy Be. It sucks not knowing some Malagasy and / or French.[/QUOTE]Yes, Not fresh girls there and a few sexually dead / frozen fish, broken main road and expensive hotels

However, easy lower class girls can be taken at 15 k to 20 k ST non stop from the main road from 7PM. Just wait in front of Hotel La Bombonera

Cool season is better, July to September. Its a place that after less then a week you feel its time to move on.

The following photo shows how the girls passing in front of Bombonera, They all in the game. and just in the opposite corner there is a bar,restaurant and club.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2457322]
Finally one Sunday (or was it Saturday), Pokeris takes me to some disco open just 1-day / week way down the road along the beach. The ride there was a literal trip, bumping all over the place in dirt and mud. But when we got there, wow! Probably 200 ish people but not crowded because the venue is big and the beach in back is so broad and easily accommodates how ever many people come. IMO this set-up has by far the best selection and is a mix of all types including some families. [/QUOTE]Nice report on Nosy Be. The place you were staying at is the town Ambatoloaka, the center of mongering and makorely (hos) on Nosy Be. The big party on the beach you discovered was Tati Chris, which only happens on Sundays down the beach in the town Madirokely. A completely different scene and way better than anything in Ambataloaka. Madirokely is way more laid back than Ambatoloaka, more local, less makorely. And Sundays are the best, all day long there are many people on the beach, families and groups of young people, as it is the day of rest and party. Tati Chris happens only on Sunday evening / nights, and it really is a big local party, and great place for Vazaha (white guys) to find non-pros. I miss it. Pokeris knows what he is doing.

I suspect it is very quiet there these days. Can't wait for the Covid era to pass.

Pokeris and I booked a flight from Nosy Be to Antananarivo after a good week in Nosy Be. There is a local website he showed me which has the best deals but the flights go really fast. So we ended up staying 3 days longer than we wanted. We did an all night in Antaninarivo and hit 2 or 3 of the clubs. The hotel I stayed at is in center of town near the cafe club with working girls around corner from Ethiopian Airlines and Miniso or is it Uniqlo. At the first club, I saw someone I liked but when I approached her, the vibe seemed too cold so I aborted. At second club on hill 5 min cab ride away, I approached one I liked but she wanted 100 K, way over recommended 50 K or so. So I went to hotel. Next day, we went to station and took minibus to Tomasina.

Once we got out of the city, I noticed so many girls in the villages who really looked a lot more attractive than what I saw in Nosy Be. I think these are Merina people of Asian descent who live in highlands surrounding capital for like 50-100 km or so. These areas of Madagascar are gorgeous with so many hills, greenery and vistas all around. The people and towns don't look as run down nor impoverished as the areas I saw once we got into the lower lands near the coasts. I have no idea how easy or difficult it would be to meet girls in these villages but would sure like to know.

After 8 or so hours, we arrived in Tomasina. I stayed in a hotel with aircon near a big market selling crafts and other things which was within walking distance to both the most popular resto / pick-up joint and Taxi-Be. It had aircon and internet but once again frequent brown outs. And that town seems to rain on most days during March at least.

We met another monger there too from the USA. We all hung out a lot and did the usual stuff for the next several days. Here is what I remember about Tomasina.

1. It's a surreal place to walk around during the day if it's not raining. There's all these cool French buildings and houses in various states of disrepair, but so few people around, almost like a ghost town on Sunday at least. We saw goats being slaughtered, the French Institute full of young people practicing their French or just hanging out, half abandoned parks. There are some mini resort type hotels near one of the beach areas with in house massage girls too. The beaches have small food and drink joints with people and the whole town is just super relaxed and so quiet for being the second largest city in the country.

2. For me, the main pick-up joints. Taxi Be and the nearby restaurant were stocked with mostly unappealing girls. The one or two attractive one we saw were asking like 90 K. I don't think I ever took a girl out of any of these places.

3. On the other hand, I got lucky on the blvd. Near the beach on 3 occasions. Of these, one was a 6 to 7 in my book but didn't have a cellphone so repeat session on another day was not possible. The other two were ok as well and one still contacts me on Facebook. Damage for these girls was 40-50 K for 1-2 hours though I could feel they were hoping for more.

Although I saw one attractive civilian working at one of the nice resort type hotels near the beach, I didn't have the courage to chat her up much even though she was friendly. Oh yes, I did get a number from one of the waitresses working at the main resto / pick-up joint but she didn't respond to my text.

And in general, I really saw very little in the way of inspiring girls in that town other than the street along the beach around 6 pm or so (the 3 I took). Of course these are pros but still young and the 2 I liked best had no kids.

Finally, Pokeris took me to the bus station brothel and I tried it out. The girl wasn't half bad but it was hot as hell in that room. I gave 20 K but of course they were hoping for more.

So Tamatave is a unique big small-town which seems pretty safe, looks neglected, is quiet, rainy, peaceful, with soft locals who are in my opinion mostly plain looking. I can imagine it gets extremely boring there after a couple weeks but at least there are some paved roads and a small city of sorts.

In general, girls I went with in Nosy Be and Tamatave didn't seem to mind bareback.

Antaninarivo.

By far the best infrastructure and value for money hotels which are actually cheaper than the other 2 cities in spite of being much better. I think my daily rate was just over $20 even though I was in center of town and had a great bed, bathroom, aircon, and curtains which blocked out all the sunlight.

I did have a nice day at the zoo and got to play with a couple of lemurs there which made for some great videos.

I suppose you could have a lot of fun grabbing girls out of the clubs or even from the outside square at night. But the vibe seemed a lot colder and I didn't take even one during my several days there. The people are still somehow soft when compared to parts of mainland Africa but still the kids are super aggressive in following you, begging, etc. At night, you see groups of people huddled around campfires around town and the cars and taxis are among the worst I've seen anywhere. In spite of the city containing interesting architecture and some beauty spread about hills, the in your face dirt and poverty is shocking. It's a nice looking city from some distance but an eery slum from the ground up. The only thing going for it other than best infrastructure is that it has the best weather or at least when we visited, it was warm, breezy, and sunny almost everyday.

Perhaps it's possible to find a nice girl or girls there. But for me, the real beauty in terms of place and people are the hills we bussed through between Antaninarivo and Tomasina. I wonder if someone stayed in one of the larger towns in the central highlands whether or not it would be easy to date some of the innocent looking and attractive Merina girls. The other monger we met there spoke pretty highly of Antsirabi but he only stayed 2 or 3 days I think.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2457580] There is a local website he showed me which has the best deals.[/QUOTE]Hi, a link will be appreciate.

At Taiwanlaowai. Apt description of Isle rouge. Its not all roses. Tana for sure despite all its Snake Plissken atmosphere at night with lit campfires on the deserted streets has its sweet spots. Especially haute ville around the rova. Best to explore on foot. The pain is to move around during rush hour. I like walking and exploring on foot. The best way to move around town would be IMO a scooter. Down around Rue Independance are the lower class chicas. Haute ville are the flashier clubs. Pollution is also pretty bad. As you found out. Rien parle francais. Start to learn vocabulary. The absolute best App is called "Mille" you can practice easy on your smart phone.

I hope for August to return to isle rouge.

La Buse.

Who's stuck in Sex / Covid prison till end of July.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2457607]Hi, a link will be appreciate.[/QUOTE][URL]Tsaradia.com[/URL]

I think the cost was around 100 Euros NOS to TNR, maybe even less.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2457687]At Taiwanlaowai. Apt description of Isle rouge. Its not all roses. Tana for sure despite all its Snake Plissken atmosphere at night with lit campfires on the deserted streets has its sweet spots. Especially haute ville around the rova. Best to explore on foot. The pain is to move around during rush hour. I like walking and exploring on foot. The best way to move around town would be IMO a scooter. Down around Rue Independance are the lower class chicas. Haute ville are the flashier clubs. Pollution is also pretty bad. As you found out. Rien parle francais. Start to learn vocabulary. The absolute best App is called "Mille" you can practice easy on your smart phone.

I hope for August to return to isle rouge.

La Buse.

Who's stuck in Sex / Covid prison till end of July.[/QUOTE]Yes it's fine during the day even with traffic. We did go out one night and just drink beers in the plaza as per suggestion of the American monger who we meet up with first in Tamatave. We had a lot of company from various girls while we sat outside on those plastic stools and took in the scene. Eventually, a cat fight broke out between 2 or 3 of the girls over who could be with one of us (I forget the details) so I just discreetly escaped the scene and went back to my hotel nearby. I don't doubt it may be possible to find a young gem this way but the scene is way to depressing to enjoy. The desperation is in your face and it seems people would do almost anything to score a bit of money. At least Nosy Be and Tomasina seem a lot tamer than anything you see in this dystopian capital of Tana.

Has anyone ever tried their luck in the highland towns such as Antsirabi? Like I said, the most beautiful and pure looking locals appear to be Merina and I think they are predominantly living in the central highlands. Are many of the girls from this tribe as keen as the locals you find in Nosy Be and perhaps Tomasina?

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2457737][URL]Tsaradia.com[/URL]

I think the cost was around 100 Euros NOS to TNR, maybe even less.[/QUOTE]Thanks this is the airline website but you have talked about website with deals, I thought it offer lower price the the airline. Anyway, price are reasonable now compare to the old days of Air Madagascar.

My impression is similar with yours regarding Tomasina, Tana and Nosy. Thats why I will heading to Toliara and maybe Taolagnaro.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2457738]Yes it's fine during the day even with traffic. We did go out one night and just drink beers in the plaza as per suggestion of the American monger who we meet up with first in Tamatave. We had a lot of company from various girls while we sat outside on those plastic stools and took in the scene. Eventually, a cat fight broke out between 2 or 3 of the girls over who could be with one of us (I forget the details) so I just discreetly escaped the scene and went back to my hotel nearby. I don't doubt it may be possible to find a young gem this way but the scene is way to depressing to enjoy. The desperation is in your face and it seems people would do almost anything to score a bit of money. At least Nosy Be and Tomasina seem a lot tamer than anything you see in this dystopian capital of Tana.

Has anyone ever tried their luck in the highland towns such as Antsirabi? Like I said, the most beautiful and pure looking locals appear to be Merina and I think they are predominantly living in the central highlands. Are many of the girls from this tribe as keen as the locals you find in Nosy Be and perhaps Tomasina?[/QUOTE]Depends on your definition of beauty. Merina models can be stunners if you're in slim Asian type looking girls. But not so easy to get. Most Imerina in the past were from families of nobility. This is the ruling class until today. Tana and Antsirabe are the main Merina cities. Having said that I didn't find a lot of beauties. They tend to be fat and short stocky. Again. They come in all sizes. They are usually not so much merina WGs. Stunners know their worth. Check out this video of Agence Lolita. They do a nice calendar with predominantly Imerina models every year.

[URL]https://youtu.be/lmqycb2gfkY[/URL]

La Buse.

Who loves Betsimisiraka chicas from East coast Slant eyed mixed pirate / asian / african mix. Yummy. Like Wendy.

https://youtu.be/a2U-tPPtg1E

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2457782]Depends on your definition of beauty. Merina models can be stunners if you're in slim Asian type looking girls. But not so easy to get. Most Imerina in the past were from families of nobility. This is the ruling class until today. Tana and Antsirabe are the main Merina cities. Having said that I didn't find a lot of beauties. They tend to be fat and short stocky. Again. They come in all sizes. They are usually not so much merina WGs. Stunners know their worth. Check out this video of Agence Lolita. They do a nice calendar with predominantly Imerina models every year.

[URL]https://youtu.be/lmqycb2gfkY[/URL]

La Buse.

Who loves Betsimisiraka chicas from East coast Slant eyed mixed pirate / asian / african mix. Yummy. Like Wendy.

https://youtu.be/a2U-tPPtg1E[/QUOTE]Some of the girls in the first video are very appealing and the general vibe emanating from them is student and civilian.

I like chubby or even slightly fat as long as not too short. I think the key to great mongering is finding exceptions to the rule, getting the girls who are normally not available to you due to luck or some fluke of nature. In my case, that means tolerating a few 5/6's to get one or two 7/8's in a whole trip and generally only getting a girl at all once every few days at best.

Thanks for the videos. Since Tana is so dreadful, I really need to try out Antsirabi. Besides having beautiful women, the highlands look like a great place to relax for a couple weeks.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2457790]Some of the girls in the first video are very appealing and the general vibe emanating from them is student and civilian.

I like chubby or even slightly fat as long as not too short. I think the key to great mongering is finding exceptions to the rule, getting the girls who are normally not available to you due to luck or some fluke of nature. In my case, that means tolerating a few 5/6's to get one or two 7/8's in a whole trip and generally only getting a girl at all once every few days at best.

Thanks for the videos. Since Tana is so dreadful, I really need to try out Antsirabi. Besides having beautiful women, the highlands look like a great place to relax for a couple weeks.[/QUOTE]Check out my Antsirabe posts. Use the search function. Its for sure less dreadful. There's some Imerina SWs available. The main highway south is very dusty though. But I liked the colonial atmosphere and the cooler weather. There's some good eateries as well.

La Buse.

OK I've read the reports around Neddy's Antsirabe adventure last year and done a bit of background research.

It appears that if you want to enjoy a temperate Madagascar experience in the gorgeous highlands with decent infrastructure and have some opportunities to know beautiful young Asian orgin Malagasy girls, Antsirabe with it's Merina and Fianarantsoa with it's related Betsileo ethnic group may be the best options.

As I recall, one of the 3 girls I took from the boardwalk in Tomasina appeared Merina and I really liked her look. She was chubby with a pear shape, cute face, straight hair, and about 162 cm.

Overall, it looks like 1/3 of Madagascar is mainly of Asian descent with the remainder Bantu, some Arab, or various others. I don't have an idea what the girls with Arab blood look like but I think the Bantus there are going to be the least appealing. The reason I say this is because you can find much thicker, taller, and attractive Bantus in many parts of Mainland Africa. If you go for the softer looking ones typical in Madagascar, the real appeal is with the Asians and perhaps certain Arab or other mixes.

If I can make it back there, I will explore the above 2 mentioned cities to get a better gauge and reading of the Asian Malagasy girls. It may be that most of them act like princesses in which case, it won't be very interesting. But if some are easy to get similar to the Bantu Malagasy and they have great attitudes, well then, that might be almost like paradise LOL.

Of course, the language barrier remains. But people in Madagascar in general struck me as easygoing and more Asian like in character. After living in several Asian countries for so long, it's a bit hard to adjust to the hyper extroversion and high physicality you see a lot in mainland Africa including Kampala where I remain stranded as of now.

As the lockdown relaxes here, I'll try to contribute a bit to the Uganda thread.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2457825]opportunities to know beautiful young Asian orgin Malagasy girls, Antsirabe with it's Merina and Fianarantsoa with it's related Betsileo ethnic group may be the best options..[/QUOTE]You will get nothing there.

In the past Tana was a great place too but every year its becoming worst until the point no reason to even stop. Same for Antsirabe.

GFE girls can be found only in Toliara or rural remote places. However is your threshold and sensitivity are low then yes, sex with ugly girls as you can see in Taxi Be can be found all over Mada. Or Try Facebook and offer irresistible proposal.

So let me be more brutal if you go Antsirabe you will miss Nosy Be.

Most big cities still have nice looking young girls. If somebody looking models types between 8. 5-10 in beauty range better skip mada because it will be very hard to find, but if someone looking sweet, cute and good looking young girls without kids and with nice attitudes mada still the best place to go in africa.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2457835]You will get nothing there.

In the past Tana was a great place too but every year its becoming worst until the point no reason to even stop. Same for Antsirabe.

GFE girls can be found only in Toliara or rural remote places. However is your threshold and sensitivity are low then yes, sex with ugly girls as you can see in Taxi Be can be found all over Mada. Or Try Facebook and offer irresistible proposal.

So let me be more brutal if you go Antsirabe you will miss Nosy Be.[/QUOTE]I wonder why both places have gotten worse. Has it been over mongered or too many Chinese or what?

Doesn't Antisrabe have much better infrastructure than Nosy Be? Thanks to Tate Cris, Nosy Be had a bit of potential. But the infrastructure is what really made staying there difficult. I don't mind heat if you can duck out in aircon but that's not possible in Nosy Be.

Tolaria actually looks pretty decent and almost no rain. It's one of the largest towns too on similar scale as Antsirabe and Tomasian based on population. What is the main tribe there, are they mixed? Now that I think of it, the civilian girl I met at Tati Cris with her family is from Tolaria and looks like some kind of mix (lighter skin maybe with some Arab or Indian).

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2457895]Most big cities still have nice looking young girls. If somebody looking models types between 8. 5-10 in beauty range better skip mada because it will be very hard to find, but if someone looking sweet, cute and good looking young girls without kids and with nice attitudes mada still the best place to go in africa.[/QUOTE]The girl with the pink towel between her legs is the one from Tati Cris who we both liked. That is a very bad photo of her. Her hips and ass are bigger in person and at the disco, she had her hair styled well or a wig or something. She has no kids and also has a cute face.

But in general, if you look at all girls in these photos, notice they are generally on the more petite side with slim hips yet all are predominantly afro. It's like you get the afro hair but not the afro booty, the negatives but not the positives.

These girls look like they come from a different planet than Merina girls from the highlands.

Again, I am curious, what do girls in Tolaria tend to look like? Is the one I met typical. Lighter skin, more of an arab mix look, hair slightly smoother?

By the way, I forget to mention one huge positive about Madagascar that I experienced. That is, I think every girl I took seemed happy to French kiss. That makes the sessions so much better. In Thailand, a percentage of the working girls I've experienced seem reluctant or downright refuse kissing.

Well TL, you may be looking for chunky chicks but most of us are well pleased by the type of girl in Pokeris' photos (myself included). Plenty of fat chicks the world over. No need to go all the way to Mada searching for them! In general I would not trade any of them for a fatter chick, especially a fat ass. To each his own of course but you are not likely to find a girl of the type you want with a beautiful face as well. Fortunately, the type in Pokeris' photos can be found all over Mada.

Give it a go but on my brief trip to Toliara from Tana overland I didn't see many girls that would make it worth a second trip. YMMV. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Peterg123;2414282]Been going to Mada for more than 20 years and seen many changes but IMO the excellent times had with Malagasy ladies (most of the time) has been memorable. From the Merina Indonesian looking ladies of the High Plateau to the gorgeous Vezo Polynesian mixes of Tulea (with natural blonde streaks in their hair) and the south West, the many regions have their spice and variety. Have even spent time in villages in the South West where the local chief sends over a tribal teen to keep you warm, it being considered impolite for a stranger who is a guest of the chief to sleep alone. I've done it with everything from coal black with straight natural hair to Chinese coloured black frizz haired gals with green eyes and if you like exotic mixes, this is a great place for mongering. This is where Africa meets Polynesia meets the Orient meets Indonesia. Religious.

Malagasy girls are liberal. They like sex and it's not something anyone is prudish about. Some southern tribes specialize in traditional fallatio and kama-sutra like positions. Many Malagasy, maybe most, are good masseuses, as massage is a tradition in most of Malagasy cultures. Traditional girls know how to wash you without soap. Using their hands and plain water in a hot bath, they exfoliate you naturally. Followed by a body massage, a BJ and FS. Yummy. If you like hard street walking sluts and pillow princesses, you can find them. But so many more sweet, gentle non-professionals part-timing for a "copin" and a little pocket money.

Yeah there are the online scammers and the "my mother is very sick" types as well. What can one expect in one of the poorest countries on earth.

Maybe I'll post more on a few good and bad places and times in future. Every time I land in Tana I usually head straight out from the airport a few kms down the road to an MP and unwind with a polite, gentle Gasy gal.

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A lot of mongers seem to like Tamatave and Nosy Be or perhaps Diego which I've not yet been to. But I'm getting the impression that the real exotic beauty in terms of women are going to be sourced more from central to south east coast, central highlands, and perhaps deep south west coastal areas. Tamatave up to Nosy Be may be mostly that petite African look which has the least amount of appeal I believe. Tamatave, though somewhat developed, style has abysmal infrastructure and way too much rain. Nosy Be is not really even livable and they get lots of rain too.

Online searches indicate that it generally very dry on east and southeast coast and Toliara does not get so hot.

Next time, I need to focus on a couple highland towns, Toliara, and maybe Mahajunga.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2458019]Well TL, you may be looking for chunky chicks but most of us are well pleased by the type of girl in Pokeris' photos (myself included). Plenty of fat chicks the world over. No need to go all the way to Mada searching for them! In general I would not trade any of them for a fatter chick, especially a fat ass. To each his own of course but you are not likely to find a girl of the type you want with a beautiful face as well. Fortunately, the type in Pokeris' photos can be found all over Mada.

Give it a go but on my brief trip to Toliara from Tana overland I didn't see many girls that would make it worth a second trip. YMMV. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Yes we all have our own tastes.

But don't a lot of guys much prefer the smooth silky hair of Asians or whites to the afro type hair common in Africa which is so hard to manage and ushers in wigs, less frequent washings, smell issues, etc? So I figured that the big compensating factor with African girls is the relative ease of finding amazing curves, robust muscle tone, and skin that is resistant to aging. And of course, many African girls are in the game which is required.

With these west coast Mada girls, I'm seeing the same Afro hair but no booty and less muscle tone. But as I said, the Merina girls are very different ballgame. Many of the ones I saw had smooth hair, very cute faces, and even the pear shape you also see way up in Morocco.

As for Toliera (Tuleu), at minimum, it almost never rains there and the temperatures look almost perfect, especially if you avoid the 2 hottest months. The report by Peterg123 (20 years of visiting Mada) and a couple of the follow-up made Veza sub-group and some of the other tribes around Tuleu sound very interesting. NmExpert seems to think that a lot of Mada has already been damaged except the southwest and third tier towns or countryside areas.

I hope I can make it back there before too long to find out first hand. As long as I do, I'll share all findings here. Good, bad and everything in between.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2458062]for Toliera (Tuleu), at minimum, it almost never rains there and the temperatures look almost perfect, especially if you avoid the 2 hottest months. The report by Peterg123 (20 years of visiting Mada) and a couple of the follow-up made Veza sub-group and some of the other tribes around Tuleu sound very interesting. NmExpert seems to think that a lot of Mada has already been damaged except the southwest and third tier towns or countryside areas..[/QUOTE]Tulear is on the African side of the country, not only geographically but ethnographically. And, yes it is dry. In the intensity of the midday sun, nothing is moving: siesta til sunset. The town itself makes Tamatave seem like a bustling metropolis. As for girls: well, girls are everywhere, as is poverty, which is all you need to know. Connect the dots. Go if you want to get all the way laid back, otherwise you'the be bored senseless in no time.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2457895]
... but if someone looking sweet, cute and good looking young girls without kids and with nice attitudes mada still the best place to go in africa.[/QUOTE]Good taste! I like tall, slimm, nice face, clean skin...

[QUOTE=Beno69;2458130]Good taste! I like tall, slimm, nice face, clean skin...[/QUOTE]Malagasy girls are small most of them and I can't see any faces on these pics. As for clean skin in Madagascar hmmm I wouldn't bet on that.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2457999]

Again, I am curious, what do girls in Tolaria tend to look like? Is the one I met typical. Lighter skin, more of an arab mix look, hair slightly smoother?

[/QUOTE]You are collecting data for a PhD thesis? Ohh man -- you are so much in theory.

Just enjoy what's on offer and if you don't like it, move on. Don't blame the girls to be ugly but blame yourself not to see their beauty.

Here some Toliar beach girls.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2458209]You are collecting data for a PhD thesis? Ohh man -- you are so much in theory.

Just enjoy what's on offer and if you don't like it, move on. Don't blame the girls to be ugly but blame yourself not to see their beauty.

Here some Toliar beach girls.[/QUOTE]Not theory but hypotheses followed by direct experimentation. These girls you posted look pretty interesting so I must be on to something. But I'll have to wait until after lockdown to find out for sure.

Also, it's not just the girls but also how pleasant a place is to stay in. As for PhD thesis, well someone should do something like that on the various tribes all over Africa with a special emphasis on physical traits of people. Many local people in Africa seem to have strong opinions about typical traits of tribes in their respective areas. Here in Kampala, several people I've met have talked a lot about how special the Dinkas from South Sudan look and how they tend to behave. The do seem to stand out here.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2458256]Not theory but hypotheses followed by direct experimentation. .....[/QUOTE]Then do your experiments --and we will have a good laugh.

Gosh -- that's really funny. Enjoy.

The dude is collecting info as though he's preparing for a grand Exploration. LOL.

Here are other quotes:

Stop.

"Paralysis by analysis".

And.

"Just do it".

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2458209]You are collecting data for a PhD thesis? Ohh man -- you are so much in theory.

Just enjoy what's on offer and if you don't like it, move on. Don't blame the girls to be ugly but blame yourself not to see their beauty.

Here some Toliar beach girls.[/QUOTE]

I agree, mada is the country of "just do it" and maybe "comment after", but watch around.

As soon as the country is back open, I'll be there. During the lockdown I have become fluent in LE franais.

If you were able to learn a language in 2-3 months, why not learn another one while you are waiting? Vietnamese comes to mind. Some gorgeous girls there and much easier to navigate the P4P situation if you know the language. Of course getting in to either country may not be so easy.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2458426]Then do your experiments --and we will have a good laugh.

Gosh -- that's really funny. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]How do you propose I do these experiments? Madagascar is closed or haven't you heard yet? I'll stick with Uganda for now and that's fine. Lockdown here was strict but it's slowly being relaxed and dating will soon be possible again.

You were able to learn a language in 2-3 months, why not learn another one while you are waiting? Vietnamese comes to mind. Some gorgeous girls there and much easier to navigate the P4 P situation if you know the language. Of course getting in to either country may not be so easy.

That's correct sir, I am fluent in Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese as well, which share the same grammatical structure as French. I studied an hour and a half per day with a software phone app and twice a week with a Columbian journalist living in Grenoble. We connected through skype and she spoke to me 98% in French. I did start the phone app in January, but like I said became fluent over the lockdown. Thank you for your inquisition sir.

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2458832] I studied an hour and a half per day with a software phone app I did start the phone app in January, but like I said became fluent over the lockdown.[/QUOTE]Becoming fluent like you said over the lockdown in two months that is whack, jazzy daddy. So do you find translations of Sartre entirely incomprehensible now that your fluency enables you to enjoy Being and Nothingness in the original French? Keep it real.

I got a sense that there is a wide variance in French ability among different girls in Madagascar. I also suspect that the average French level there is lower than English level in Philippines where I spend a lot of time. Of course if you stick with more educated girls and stay in the capital, it's a lot easier to find fluent French speakers.

There is a lot of synergy between Porto and Spanish and once you have those 2, French should be a lot easier too except for the pronunciation. As for Vietnamese, it's a very different ballgame if you don't have any tonal languages under your belt to a high level of fluency and even if you do, good luck.

The ability to pick-up new languages varies tremendously between individuals. It is possible for some to pick-up a strong working command in a few months. I have an older friend who is totally fluent in Russian, Ukranian, English, Spanish, Japanese, and Tagalog while very strong in Thai and Bisayan. After 6 months in Phnom Penh, he is able to pass for fairly fluent in Khmer now too.

Just to keep this language thing straight sir, I never said I was fluent in 2 months. I said I became fluent over the lockdown, I started studying in Jan 2020 and by middle of June 2020 I am fluent. I don't appreciate being called a liar sir. After 16 years of membership here at ISG, one thing I"ve noticed, there are quite a few older white guys who, for whatever reason, have never been pursued by women and find themselves having to pay for something they missed in their earlier years. It may be that is the category you find yourself pigeonholed in, I don't know. Yes I pay too, but I also have relationships in the countries I prefer to visit and speaking the language, for me, is key to developing rapport with beautiful young women.

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2459272]Just to keep this language thing straight sir, I never said I was fluent in 2 months. I said I became fluent over the lockdown, I started studying in Jan 2020 and by middle of June 2020 I am fluent.n.[/QUOTE]Fluent in 4 and half months rather than two months. Well, don't let that detract from your accomplishment. Let's be clear, jazzy daddy, the issue here is not whether lies are in play (nor your knee jerk response channeling racism) but rather how 'fluency' is defined. Confident now you can talk to a taxi driver, a waiter, a doorman, make your intention understood in an obvious context, then go ahead and call yourself pigeonholed in this kind of fluent.

Sorry sorry. My inbox is clear now.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2457782]Depends on your definition of beauty. Merina models can be stunners if you're in slim Asian type looking girls. But not so easy to get. Most Imerina in the past were from families of nobility. This is the ruling class until today. Tana and Antsirabe are the main Merina cities. Having said that I didn't find a lot of beauties. They tend to be fat and short stocky. Again. They come in all sizes. They are usually not so much merina WGs. Stunners know their worth. Check out this video of Agence Lolita. They do a nice calendar with predominantly Imerina models every year.

[URL]https://youtu.be/lmqycb2gfkY[/URL]

La Buse.

Who loves Betsimisiraka chicas from East coast Slant eyed mixed pirate / asian / african mix. Yummy. Like Wendy.

https://youtu.be/a2U-tPPtg1E[/QUOTE]After watching the video I agree yes those Merina girls do look like South East Asians and could easily pass for Filipinas. How ironic that the same girls that are nobility would not be considered high class at all it the Philippines. At best they would have average status. They wouldn't even qualify for a small town local beauty pageant for being short, dark and ethnic looking. Here is video of what is considered high class beauty in the Philippines. Just one batch of average candidates for the Binibining Pilipinas this year. [URL]https://youtu.be/MqOSFg0cO4M[/URL].

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/pg/Miss-Madagascar-Ofisialy-CNMM-105393951165062/videos/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0[/URL]

Nice videos to see how girls looks like from different areas of madagascar.

Some tip: when you look videos you can see some girls names do search on facebook and you can find their facebooks profiles send them friend request and maybe you will be lucky to meet some of them.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2467716][URL]https://m.facebook.com/pg/Miss-Madagascar-Ofisialy-CNMM-105393951165062/videos/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0[/URL]

Nice videos to see how girls looks like from diffrents areas of madagascar.

Some tip: when you look videos you can see some girls names do search on facebook and you can find their facebooks profiles send them friend request and maybe you will be lucky to meet some of them.[/QUOTE]I looked up the official Miss Madagascar site on FB and within the videos section you can see a long list of high quality video introductions of the contestants. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/pg/Miss-Madagascar-Ofisialy-CNMM-105393951165062/videos/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2467716][URL]https://m.facebook.com/pg/Miss-Madagascar-Ofisialy-CNMM-105393951165062/videos/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0[/URL]

Nice videos to see how girls looks like from diffrents areas of madagascar.

Some tip: when you look videos you can see some girls names do search on facebook and you can find their facebooks profiles send them friend reguest and maybe you will be lucky to meet some of them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2467730]I looked up the official Miss Madagascar site on FB and within the videos section you can see a long list of high quality video introductions of the contestants. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/pg/Miss-Madagascar-Ofisialy-CNMM-105393951165062/videos/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks for the eye candy tip guys. I know next to nothing about Madagascar girls, but I know what I like when I see it. MISS ANALAMANGA is smokin' hot!

https://www.facebook.com/Miss-Madagascar-Ofisialy-CNMM-105393951165062/videos/miss-analamanga/609714199959388/?__so__=channel_tab&__rv__=related_videos

https://www.facebook.com/102044954880740/videos/643030842964541/?__so__=channel_tab&__rv__=all_videos_card

She also has an Instagram profile. https://www.instagram.com/_t.karen_/

Hello,

Not sure how many of the forum users are currently located in Africa, but it struck me thinking how and when we'll be allowed to step again in those lands. I loved Madagascar for Mongering, such a beautiful country with so amazing ladies. And then it's 2020 with al the covid19 clusterfuck. We don't even feel safe in Europe, so I get to think pretty often how long will it take to be acceptably safe to get back to Africa? And I mean for mongering, hence Madagascar, Kenya, Uganda, Ruanda, etc.

Any thoughts?

I guess in Asia we will see a faster recovery of things, but Africa. Just afraid will be a no-mongering land for quiet a while unfortunately. Happy to discuss with you like-minded people!

[QUOTE=Martin00;2467979]Hello,

Not sure how many of the forum users are currently located in Africa, but it struck me thinking how and when we'll be allowed to step again in those lands. I loved Madagascar for Mongering, such a beautiful country with so amazing ladies. And then it's 2020 with al the covid19 clusterfuck. We don't even feel safe in Europe, so I get to think pretty often how long will it take to be acceptably safe to get back to Africa? And I mean for mongering, hence Madagascar, Kenya, Uganda, Ruanda, etc.

Any thoughts?

I guess in Asia we will see a faster recovery of things, but Africa. Just afraid will be a no-mongering land for quiet a while unfortunately. Happy to discuss with you like-minded people![/QUOTE]Kenya and Rwanda is opening their borders from August 1 for international flights. About Madagascar any news yet. If you miss Africa go Tanzania is completely open.Traveling will be not same as before probably long time now you need to make your own decision its safe traveling for you or still wait better times.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2468078]Kenya and Rwanda is opening their borders from August 1 for international flights. About madagascar any news yet. If you miss africa go tanzania is completely open.Traveling will be not same as before probably long time now you need to make your own decision its safe traveling for you or still wait better times.[/QUOTE]When has Africa been safe? LOL. All I care if there's an international flight and no government quarantine in either a sh.thole or a luxury type hotel at my expense. Covid? The least of my worries. The biggest danger is traffic accidents followed by malaria. Only three realistic options in East Africa now.
TANZANIA:
NO restrictions. Flights available

KENYA From 1 August. BUT:
Conflicting information. The ministry of health wants negative Covid Tests or Quarantine. The tourist minister is of a different opinion. Uhuru needs to sort this out till 1 August

RWANDA from 1 August. BUT:
Flights available? unclear. Turkish will operate from 31 August

QUOTE:
On Saturday, July 4, the Ministry of Infrastructure announced that airports, including Kigali International Airport (KGL), will reopen for commercial flights from August 1st.

The Ministry of Health has developed guidelines that must be followed upon the resumption of commercial flights. All passengers, including those in transit, will be required to show proof of a negative COVID-19 test result taken within 72 hours of arrival in Rwanda, and those staying in Rwanda will have to take a second test upon arrival and stay in designated hotels at their own cost until the result is confirmed. They will also have to fill out a Passenger Location Form prior to arrival. Hand sanitizers, social distancing, and other measures will be in place at airports.

UGANDA unknown.
MADAGASCAR unknown.
ETHIOPIA Open but mandatory Government quarantine

WEST AFRICA
Most ECOWAS countries should be open by 1 August. Check the updates on Turkish airlines on regular routes. They have a good map. As well as Ethiopian.
But. Watch out. Only because there's flights operating doesn't mean you're not asked to produce a negative PCR Test within the last 72 hours or you go straight to quarantine like Ethiopia for 7 to 14 days. So it'll be a mine field. Another thing to consider. You might make it to Africa. But you have a good chance to get stuck there. But most of these problems are sorted with a suitable sized Dollar Bill in your passport.

If you wait for "better" times you might wait 2 years... And after lockdown you'll have a lot of hungry prime chicas at bargain basement prices. Fact is. African countries have to restart commercial air traffic fairly soon. Covid or not. Otherwise there will be no Airline Industry left.
Neddy

Check out this site. Excellent. But do your own due diligence!

https://www.tourhero.com/en/ultimate-guide-covid19-travel-restrictions-reopening/tanzania.html

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2468107]When has Africa been safe? LOL. All I care if there's an international flight and no government quarantine in either a sh.thole or a luxury type hotel at my expense. Covid? The least of my worries. The biggest danger is traffic accidents followed by malaria. [/QUOTE]I mean safe for different reasons. I don't give a shit about coronavirus also I am young and healthy, but some of us have bad health conditions and old and their risk increase sick from corona, so probably they feel more safe in own country instead travelling in countries where health system almost not exist. If I was 60-80 years old with health problems I think twice to go Africa at this time or not. Yes to enter Rwanda by air you need have covid test and do another test after, but it not means you can't travel here. Maybe even its possible to flight Tanzania and enter Rwanda by land bribe some border officers and get away with testing. Who willing to travel its always possible to find some way. Like Zambia now needs also have covid certificate done before arrival or can get test on arrival at this case you need self isolate for 2 days until result of test comes. But it not means you need to do it. My friend cross the border from Tanzania to Zambia by land few days ago and get away without any covid test, but its different story let him tell it himself on ISG forum

[URL]https://www.rwandair.com/media-center/news-press-releases/routes-to-be-opened-by-august-1st-2020/[/URL]

https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/aa/global-travel-updates/updates-on-covid-19(coronavirus)

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2468120]. Maybe even its posible to flight tanzania and enter rwanda by land bribe some border officers and get away with testing.[/QUOTE]That's a good one LOL. Have you ever tried to bribe a Rwandan officer? I would like to see that. Tell me how is the view from a Rwandan cell LOL.

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[QUOTE=Pokeris;2468225]You are naive if you think officers don't take a bribes in africa. Anyway I don't need to explain nothing for you and waste my time,because you are useless on all ISG forums as I seen from all your reports before.So better you keep yourself for yourself.[/QUOTE]Rwanda is different from other countries in Africa. Stop being arrogant when you know nothing about a country.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2468233]Rwanda is different from other countries in Africa. Stop being arrogant when you know nothing about a country.[/QUOTE]Seems you don't know nothing yourself you look corruption index on internet and decide rwandians not take the bribes. Yes they are much less corrupted when other African countries but its not means they not take it or you will get in jail if you offer them. Yes its posible they can refuse or not like in any african countries. When I come first time rwanda 3 years ago I take boda boda at night time and the motorcycle driver didint give me a helmet (at kigali everybody must wear helmets on motorbikes) later police guy stop us and ask why I don't wear a helmet? Boda boda driver go futher and start talk with him something, after boda driver comeback to me and said give 3000 or 5000 (I not remember already how much it was) he went pay it for police guy and he let us go. So don't tell me I don't know nothing about country.

This proves nothing even if it s true. At night with no witnesses you did something wrong (anyway not wearing an helmet is stupid and dangerous if you ask me) so you had to pay a fine period. That's normal.

Trying to bribe an immigration officer at an official Rwandan border so you can get away with testing is a complete different story. I will be happy to bring you apples or oranges after this.

But be my guest go ahead and try it since you know everything about everything.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2468266]Seems you don't know nothing yourself you look corruption index on internet and decide rwandians not take the bribes. Yes they are much less corrupted when other african countries but its not means they not take it or you will get in jail if you offer them. Yes its posible they can refuse or not like in any african countries. When I come first time rwanda 3 years ago I take boda boda at night time and the motorcycle driver didint give me a helmet (at kigali everybody must wear helmets on motorbikes) later police guy stop us and ask why I don't wear a helmet? Boda boda driver go futher and start talk with him something, after boda driver comeback to me and said give 3000 or 5000 (I not remember already how much it was) he went pay it for police guy and he let us go. So don't tell me I don't know nothing about country.[/QUOTE]Best you hit the ignore button. He's been the resident africa forum troll for a long time. Contributed exactly zero. Knows it all. From the www.

Neddy.

Dont feed the pet. lol.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2468349]Best you hit the ignore button. He's been the resident africa forum troll for a long time. Contributed exactly zero. Knows it all. From the www.

Neddy.

Dont feed the pet. lol.[/QUOTE]Funny to call me a troll when I say something obvious that you know is true.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2468107]
If you wait for "better" times you might wait 2 years... And after lockdown you'll have a lot of hungry prime chicas at bargain basement prices. Fact is. African countries have to restart commercial air traffic fairly soon. Covid or not. Otherwise there will be no Airline Industry left.
Neddy
[/QUOTE]I agree with Neddy, I think there will be great opportunities for bargains when things reopen, both on accommodation and girls. I had flights booked for both Gambia and Madagascar this summer. Both airlines said I can take them any time in the next 2 years and I most definitely intend to (hopefully sooner rather than later). This whole covid thing is a hoax anyway: 99% of people who died of it were on their last legs anyway. Plus hospitals are given extra funding for every covid death (wink wink nudge nudge) so they tested every 90 year old corpse and if they found the virus (which they probably would as he / she had been in hospital for ages) onto the list they went and a new car for the doctor. If it was a real threat then everyone in overcrowded third world slums would be dropping like flies but that is not the case.

The tourists may not be there but the girls still are. Supply and demand!

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2468848]This whole covid thing is a hoax anyway: 99% of people who died of it were on their last legs anyway.![/QUOTE]I don't know where you life and where you got your theory of fundings per Covid-deaths to hospitals. Must be a perfect place to stay.

This is an info from "The Econimist. July2nd".

Data released on June 30th by the Centres for Disease Control (CDC) show that the country's death toll skews significantly younger. There, people in their 80's account for less than half of all covid-19 deaths; people in their 40's, 50's and 60's, meanwhile, account for a significantly larger share of those who die. The median covid-19 sufferer in America is a 48-year-old;.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2468271]This proves nothing even if it s true. At night with no witnesses you did something wrong (anyway not wearing an helmet is stupid and dangerous if you ask me) so you had to pay a fine period. That's normal.

Trying to bribe an immigration officer at an official Rwandan border so you can get away with testing is a complete different story. I will be happy to bring you apples or oranges after this.

But be my guest go ahead and try it since you know everything about everything.[/QUOTE]You guys. You do not know Rwanda and its complexities. Bribe and its other forms is a very complex issue. Of course, Rwanda is different from say other Western African countries where you can openly bribe any officer. Rwandan society is a very conservative one. They are never open on any matter. Not because of the current situations but since its existence during the monarchy or under colonial rule. Rwandans in general are close-minded, they never talk on serious matter. Political life is almost nonexistent.

So bribery, corruption, . And other related crimes are a taboo in this country and they are common. Should you meet a police officer, use your sixth sense. Every Rwandan is a spying agent and everyone does not trust anyone. You get me? In some situations, I bribed the police officers, and in other others, I decided not to do so because of the public image of the country and its leadership and consequential outcomes. If you are unlucky, you will be shown on public TV and broadcast on air radios that a tourist has tried to bribed an officer. And even the President will talk about you in a press conference. Just Public Image and Public Relations. If you are lucky, nothing will happen.

To be brief, use your common sense, and do not bribe the police officer, otherwise you will be put in jail and become a persona non grata and deported.

But underground, bribery is very very common in the one of the most closed society I have ever seen all over the world.

Do you know that in my own experiences, Rwanda is worse than North Korea when taking into account some benchmarks with a certain perspective?

Tell me in your experience! I am ready to agree or disagree.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2469010]I don't know where you life and where you got your theory of fundings per Covid-deaths to hospitals. Must be a perfect place to stay.

This is an info from "The Econimist. July2nd".

Data released on June 30th by the Centres for Disease Control (CDC) show that the country's death toll skews significantly younger. There, people in their 80's account for less than half of all covid-19 deaths; people in their 40's, 50's and 60's, meanwhile, account for a significantly larger share of those who die. The median covid-19 sufferer in America is a 48-year-old;.[/QUOTE]Don't want to get into a big debate but Google "CBS8 hospitals covid death payments". There have been cases of people killed in auto accidents labelled covid victims on the death cert. There is a big push by establishment to hype covid for a variety of reasons, such as to get mail-in voting to make it easier for them to get rid of Trump. But as I said, if it were really dangerous, people crammed together in 3rd world slums with no healthcare would be dying 100,000 a week, which is just not happening.

If you're under 70 and in good health, there is less risk in covid than all the previous ones (malaria, infection, car crash, robbery, whatever) you already take when travelling to Africa.

[QUOTE=Univelton;2469026]You guys. You do not know Rwanda and its complexities. Bribe and its other forms is a very complex issue. Of course, Rwanda is different from say other Western African countries where you can openly bribe any officer. Rwandan society is a very conservative one. They are never open on any matter. Not because of the current situations but since its existence during the monarchy or under colonial rule. Rwandans in general are close-minded, they never talk on serious matter. Political life is almost nonexistent.

So bribery, corruption, . And other related crimes are a taboo in this country and they are common. Should you meet a police officer, use your sixth sense. Every Rwandan is a spying agent and everyone does not trust anyone. You get me? In some situations, I bribed the police officers, and in other others, I decided not to do so because of the public image of the country and its leadership and consequential outcomes. If you are unlucky, you will be shown on public TV and broadcast on air radios that a tourist has tried to bribed an officer. And even the President will talk about you in a press conference. Just Public Image and Public Relations. If you are lucky, nothing will happen.

To be brief, use your common sense, and do not bribe the police officer, otherwise you will be put in jail and become a persona non grata and deported.

But underground, bribery is very very common in the one of the most closed society I have ever seen all over the world.

Do you know that in my own experiences, Rwanda is worse than North Korea when taking into account some benchmarks with a certain perspective?

Tell me in your experience! I am ready to agree or disagree.[/QUOTE]Strange how bribing in Rwanda somehow ended up on Madagascar thread but anyway. My limited experience with that has not been so successful, probably due to me not being smooth enough somehow.

Over a decade ago, due to faulty info from Cameroon embassy in Australia that I phoned up, I ended up arriving in Doula with no visa when I needed one to enter. In the end, even US $1,200 offer was not enough to stop them from putting me on next flight back to Nairobi.

When I was stopped in Kampala this April and threatened with an attempted murder charge for jogging during COVID (new rule announced night before), officer would not entertain my offers. It was only after hotel staff arrived and spoke discreetly with officer that 40,000 Shilling would make the problem go away.

Also, a Chinese guy I knew of in Metro Manila was stopped on a motorcycle for a minor driving violation. When he tried to bribe the officer in a straight and perhaps condescending manner, he ended up offending the officer and the problem became a lot more complicated and bureaucratic for him. Had he kept his mouth shut and behaved with respectful body language, he likely would have been cut loose with a warning.

In more cases than not, my gut has told me that a bribe would not help things. So the only time I will offer it is in desperation. To avoid arrest or be allowed into a country. The way I do it is to apologize for causing trouble do to ignorance and offer "any way possible" as a token gesture to make up for my mistake.

As for Rwanda and Kigali, I would never dare as my skill level is not there. I am still an African newbie.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2469082]If you're under 70 and in good health, there is less risk in covid than all the previous ones (malaria, infection, car crash, robbery, whatever) you already take when travelling to Africa.[/QUOTE]I am not going to travel 2 km from my house in Pattaya unless Covid is clear completely. Or vaccine is available.

Testing my body strength resistance to this virus? I will leave it to more adventurous mongers. Meanwhile its two month that Thailand has no Covid cases. Even not one. Also border closed we are in safe prison.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2469170]Strange how bribing in Rwanda somehow ended up on Madagascar thread but anyway. My limited experience with that has not been so successful, probably due to me not being smooth enough somehow.

Over a decade ago, due to faulty info from Cameroon embassy in Australia that I phoned up, I ended up arriving in Doula with no visa when I needed one to enter. In the end, even US $1,200 offer was not enough to stop them from putting me on next flight back to Nairobi.

When I was stopped in Kampala this April and threatened with an attempted murder charge for jogging during COVID (new rule announced night before), officer would not entertain my offers. It was only after hotel staff arrived and spoke discreetly with officer that 40,000 Shilling would make the problem go away.

Also, a Chinese guy I knew of in Metro Manila was stopped on a motorcycle for a minor driving violation. When he tried to bribe the officer in a straight and perhaps condescending manner, he ended up offending the officer and the problem became a lot more complicated and bureaucratic for him. Had he kept his mouth shut and behaved with respectful body language, he likely would have been cut loose with a warning.

In more cases than not, my gut has told me that a bribe would not help things. So the only time I will offer it is in desperation. To avoid arrest or be allowed into a country. The way I do it is to apologize for causing trouble do to ignorance and offer "any way possible" as a token gesture to make up for my mistake.

As for Rwanda and Kigali, I would never dare as my skill level is not there. I am still an African newbie.[/QUOTE]Be always respectful. Admit your fault? Ruefully. African police is very creative in making up nonexisting offences to collect a bribe. Never offer a bribe in the first place. Most important. Show the goons you have more time than them. Sooner or later the subject of money will pop up. I. e. A suitable gift would prevent him from charging you for whatever. Particularly creative is the traffic police. Never forget. It is in general very unlikely that you be taken to a station to be charged. In that case the patrolman would have to share the spoils with his superior officer. The bribe is most of times a petty amount. Although Kenyan police in particular can be very greedy when they feel they can shake down an unsuspecting tourists. I heard sums of 10.000 ksh and more. Hilarious stories. Maybe I'll write a guide. As for myself I give anything which wears an uniform a wide berth. Have a been caught a few times. Absolutely. If you never paid bribes you not been to Africa. Butthe most I paid for a traffic offence in Senegal was 3000 fcfa. Slightly over the local rate of 2000 fcfa.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2469254]Be always respectful. Admit your fault? Ruefully. African police is very creative in making up nonexisting offences to collect a bribe. Never offer a bribe in the first place. Most important. Show the goons you have more time than them. Sooner or later the subject of money will pop up. I. e. A suitable gift would prevent him from charging you for whatever. Particularly creative is the traffic police. Never forget. It is in general very unlikely that you be taken to a station to be charged. In that case the patrolman would have to share the spoils with his superior officer. The bribe is most of times a petty amount. Although Kenyan police in particular can be very greedy when they feel they can shake down an unsuspecting tourists. I heard sums of 10.000 ksh and more. Hilarious stories. Maybe I'll write a guide. As for myself I give anything which wears an uniform a wide berth. Have a been caught a few times. Absolutely. If you never paid bribes you not been to Africa. Butthe most I paid for a traffic offence in Senegal was 3000 fcfa. Slightly over the local rate of 2000 fcfa.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]Thing about COVID in Uganda was that president was issuing sudden directives such as. Anyone caught violating curfew or other COVID related guidelines would automatically be charged with attempted murder which I believe is not bailable. I think over 4,000 people in Uganda including a handful of Chinese and other foreigners were locked-up for such violations. It was only several weeks later that president directed police to release these offenders unless they had dome something else serious. So thousands of people including some foreigners did jail time there in last few weeks. Traffic violations are one thing but COVID is very special case.

Another special case is if you find yourself in the middle of a Presidential motorcade. That is not something simple bribing will solve. Those special forces guys are serious and do shoot and people sometimes.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2469321]Thing about COVID in Uganda was that president was issuing sudden directives such as. Anyone caught violating curfew or other COVID related guidelines would automatically be charged with attempted murder which I believe is not bailable. I think over 4,000 people in Uganda including a handful of Chinese and other foreigners were locked-up for such violations. It was only several weeks later that president directed police to release these offenders unless they had dome something else serious. So thousands of people including some foreigners did jail time there in last few weeks. Traffic violations are one thing but COVID is very special case.

Another special case is if you find yourself in the middle of a Presidential motorcade. That is not something simple bribing will solve. Those special forces guys are serious and do shoot and people sometimes.[/QUOTE]Part of the adventure. Any day in Africa you go to bed alive or don't end up in jail is a good day.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2469375]Part of the adventure. Any day in Africa you go to bed alive or don't end up in jail is a good day.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]Have you or any other mongers here ever gone to jail in Africa? Any been in close call situations? Please regale us so we can enjoy the excitement from the safety of our monitors and keyboards.

Not in jail but not so far maybe but situation was a bit complex that time.

Was long time ago, living in ivory coast. Driving back home along the stadium, no lights there even if in town, and suddenly I saw many people in the middle of the street. They jumped on the side while I was passing through them and there I realized that it was a patrol of police and militaries due to some trouble in the city at that time.

They were shouting stop stop so I stopped, they came to me by running, all rifles directed on me.

One policeman told me to go back all together to the police station just close to there.

When we arrive a drunk policeman was shouting"put him in jail now".

They were may be 5 or 6 policemen's and same for soldiers.

Police told me: you put all of us at risk, you could have killed us!

So I tried to explain that in the dark, with "camouflage" military clothes and I stopped because I was reedy to add, and black people.

Si I didn't argue more.

But we talked like this for maybe 10 to 20 minutes.

At some point police said to soldier: but finally what do you want to do with him? It's you that he put at risk!

And chief soldier said, nothing, let him go away.

And I was then able to leave after some more excuses.

That was a situation were you have to stay very calm and not a good situation to show money.

I have many others like this. With guns on my head, but everytime the situation was going quiet after some time, long time. But you must keep control.

Not sure it could be the same now.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2469427]Have you or any other mongers here ever gone to jail in Africa? Any been in close call situations? Please regale us so we can enjoy the excitement from the safety of our monitors and keyboards.[/QUOTE]Time back in Freetown in Sierra in 2016 during the Ebola epidemic. The curfew was a rule from around 10:00 pm to 5:00 am. So one day in the middle of the week, one of my expatriate folks took a ride to the Lumley beach, one of the 5 top beaches in the country. Anyone who visited Freetown and had chance to visit its beaches knows it.

It was around 6:00 pm after a busy day. We ordered some beer and were really hanging out.

At around 8:00 pm, a small childish cute girl (she later told me she had a kid to my astonishment) approached me and asked me to buy her a drink. She was polite and courteous. I asked the bar lady to give her whatever beer she wants.

The small girl ordered a soft drink. We were then chatted about life in Freetown and Ebola. Then she started telling stories about her family, the incident when she got impregnated by a village schoolboy. I honestly felt sympathetic for her. And attracted to her. My fingers were already very far feeling the wetness as if her story was not my concern.

Then she whispered to me "hey, can we take a short walk on the beach?" I said let us go. She took my hand and I could see her face was innocent and she was really horny. It was around 9:00 pm.

What a heck! Curfew to start in a few minutes.

We crossed the road and sat in or on the sand. I do not remember. John was already very stiff.

Important note: when in Freetown, where everything is free (not free of course), always bear with you Jimmy Hat.

Then what a crime scene action! She was in periods. But she was really enjoying and me too!! Forget about the family stories and impregnation!

Then a police officer!! Now it is more then a crime! The girl talked to him in Krio (the local language) and the police officer told her to go home and he will deal with me.

The reflex for me to apologize and apologize! I prayed all Gods and told him that I was not aware of the curfew.

So I was taken to a police station! Nearby. I was under arrest for disseminating Ebola! You Europeans brought the Ebola, he said and you are disseminating to our teenagers.

I said I was sorry. Now it was 10:30 pm around and my folk was looking for me.

I saw his white pick up packed with police officers in the back.

When he saw me being interrogated, he loudly laughed asking me what brought me to the police station.

The interrogating police officer also laughed. They hugged each other and my friend told me to get in the car.

Then we went home.

Long story!

Nice stories, perhaps a lot of apparent danger in Africa is just 'funin' with people or trying to make a living. But no doubt, we all know it's a dangerous continent. 2 of the foreigners associated with my last residence in Kampala are now dead.

1. Brazilian girl from Rio early 40's. As lockdown was about to commence, she hopped on bus and headed to Mombassa. As a proud Carioca, she didn't wanna be stranded so far away from the coast. When she got to Kisumi, she got very ill (malaria) but by that time, none of the hospitals would admit Ms. Corona. Sure enough, she didn't last a week.

2. Arrogant mainland Chinese guy and friend of the young Congolese Austrian guy who I got to know there. The Congo man understands Africa through his uncles and frequent trips. He warned the foreigner not to be so rude or try to order people around in African because "You're far from home". China guy got away with it in Uganda but over in neighboring Congo, he didn't last 2 weeks. He was basically killed somewhere in the Bush for who knows what.

3. Bonus: Manager of my place told me that when my driver got into the middle of the motorcade and pulled over, he would have been taken to their camp and probably beaten to death. Since I as an obvious tourist was sitting next to him, the gunman made split second decision to abort. Getting rid of a local for driving into presidents convoy would be easy to justify but trying to explain to a western embassy how an innocent foreign passenger got killed by the president's men would be a lot more complicated. Manager also told me that the guy would have been summarily executed for such a blunder.

[QUOTE=Univelton;2469558]Time back in Freetown in Sierra in 2016 during the Ebola epidemic. The curfew was a rule from around 10:00 pm to 5:00 am. So one day in the middle of the week, one of my expatriate folks took a ride to the Lumley beach, one of the 5 top beaches in the country. Anyone who visited Freetown and had chance to visit its beaches knows it.

It was around 6:00 pm after a busy day. We ordered some beer and were really hanging out.

At around 8:00 pm, a small childish cute girl (she later told me she had a kid to my astonishment) approached me and asked me to buy her a drink. She was polite and courteous. I asked the bar lady to give her whatever beer she wants.

The small girl ordered a soft drink. We were then chatted about life in Freetown and Ebola. Then she started telling stories about her family, the incident when she got impregnated by a village schoolboy. I honestly felt sympathetic for her. And attracted to her. My fingers were already very far feeling the wetness as if her story was not my concern.

Then she whispered to me "hey, can we take a short walk on the beach?" I said let us go. She took my hand and I could see her face was innocent and she was really horny. It was around 9:00 pm.

What a heck! Curfew to start in a few minutes.

We crossed the road and sat in or on the sand. I do not remember. John was already very stiff.

Important note: when in Freetown, where everything is free (not free of course), always bear with you Jimmy Hat.

Then what a crime scene action! She was in periods. But she was really enjoying and me too!! Forget about the family stories and impregnation!

Then a police officer!! Now it is more then a crime! The girl talked to him in Krio (the local language) and the police officer told her to go home and he will deal with me.

The reflex for me to apologize and apologize! I prayed all Gods and told him that I was not aware of the curfew.

So I was taken to a police station! Nearby. I was under arrest for disseminating Ebola! You Europeans brought the Ebola, he said and you are disseminating to our teenagers.

I said I was sorry. Now it was 10:30 pm around and my folk was looking for me.

I saw his white pick up packed with police officers in the back.

When he saw me being interrogated, he loudly laughed asking me what brought me to the police station.

The interrogating police officer also laughed. They hugged each other and my friend told me to get in the car.

Then we went home.

Long story![/QUOTE]The funny thing is though. Ebola is a zillion more deadly than Covid. You did well. Always be humble and apologize. Unfortunately Covid offers a lot of good business opportunities for the uniformed goons. The only land right now who's doing the right thing. Ignore the thing altogether. Tanzania. 99.8% survives.

Neddy.

I personally have never been jailed. I do my due diligence. I make it a personal challenge to avoid nightly police checkpoints. Only one time I had a run in with some drug goons who kept me on the Gambian border for not having prescriptions on me for my medication. Idiots. I had to donate money for attaya. 6 USDollars. Other than that I had only troubles with some malayas liberating some of my property. But these were rookie mistakes.
How to avoid trouble with nightly police or army checkpoints?
Very easy. DO NOT TRAVEL AFTER NIGHTFALL Or AFTER CURFEW. Period. Africa is like the middle ages. Lock yourself in after nightfall with your girl friend. Go out nightly only in a safe area. Ask the locals. Find out where the checkpoints are. Usually chokepoints like bridges or road junctions. Avoid approaching checkpoints at night. They might be badly marked or not marked. Also afternoon might be a bad time. For example in Bissau the army is known to have agua de Bissau a local fire water. Not pleasant to deal with drunken soldiers. Always have small money on you for petty bribes. Always claim that's all you have on you. More than likely you get away. Play dumb tourist. Claim you don't understand what's he talking about.

A bixxx from Glacier agreed to 50 k local currency (13 EU) - the usual fare. After 1 hour mediocre fucking in my room I gave her the 50 k and sent her home. By a sudden she wanted 50 EU = 200 K. Long discussion. I complimented her out with the help of the security guard.

She apparently met outside some military / police guys. They stormed into my room with an AK47 pointing onto me. The bixxx shouting. The policemen asking me to settle. Waving the handcuffs to take me to their station.

It was going on for half an hour and I slowly separated the police guys from her. I put another 70 k into their hands (all what I have left in cash) and asked politely to help me to settle this. Finally they trolled of, pushing her down the staircase.

I assume they kept the money I gave them and fucked her in the next doorway as reimbursement of their troubles. Its Africa.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2469861]A bixxx from Glacier agreed to 50 k local currency (13 EU) - the usual fare. After 1 hour mediocre fucking in my room I gave her the 50 k and sent her home. By a sudden she wanted 50 EU = 200 K. Long discussion. I complimented her out with the help of the security guard.

She apparently met outside some military / police guys. They stormed into my room with an AK47 pointing onto me. The bixxx shouting. The policemen asking me to settle. Waving the handcuffs to take me to their station.

It was going on for half an hour and I slowly separated the police guys from her. I put another 70 k into their hands (all what I have left in cash) and asked politely to help me to settle this. Finally they trolled of, pushing her down the staircase.

I assume they kept the money I gave them and fucked her in the next doorway as reimbursement of their troubles. Its Africa.[/QUOTE]Ah. She meant 50 Euros and you offered 50 k. Ariary. I always type the amount in my mobile phone and emphasize ARIARY. Occasionally you have bad apples. Had a case in Tamatave. In the room she wanted 50 Euros. I booted her out straight with 10 k. But she was polite enough to ask before the deed. LOL.
I had some problems too that the chica wanted more money. Was threatened with police couple of times too. I upped from 50k to 70k ar. There's two options. Either its an empty threat or not. In Kenya things can be more difficult. There's a sexual offences act. But Madagascar? If the chica is not a minor she could only claim to have been raped? lol... What are they going to charge you for... Just the usual tourist scare off.
I know of tourists paying 50 Euros for not having the Yellow fever certificate. hahahaha...

You stood your ground. Of course its not pleasant. I suspect the same that the chica ended up with nothing. She probably offered the goons to split the 50 Euros down in the middle. Tough luck. In that case it's always best to have local contacts. Best Chef de police or Prefet or Sousprefet of the province and upwards. Then it's usually a phone call. Hand over the receiver to the goons. And voila. Problem finish. It pays to befriend some people with good contacts. Just hang out in the local expat bars.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2469871]Ah. She meant 50 Euros and you offered 50 k. Ariary. I always type the amount in my mobile phone and emphasize ARIARY.
[/QUOTE]I do normally the same with the bixxxs in Tana and did show her 50000 in my phone.

Perhaps she was upset because I did say: "Ta chatte est une grosse bote".

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2469888]I do normally the same with the bixxxs in Tana and did show her 50000 in my phone.

Perhaps she was upset because I did say: "Ta chatte est une grosse bote".[/QUOTE]Hmmm, what means"bote" for you?

Because in french this word doesn't exist, not sure about what she understood.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2469861]A bixxx from Glacier agreed to 50 k local currency (13 EU) - the usual fare. After 1 hour mediocre fucking in my room I gave her the 50 k and sent her home. By a sudden she wanted 50 EU = 200 K. Long discussion. I complimented her out with the help of the security guard.

She apparently met outside some military / police guys. They stormed into my room with an AK47 pointing onto me. The bixxx shouting. The policemen asking me to settle. Waving the handcuffs to take me to their station.

It was going on for half an hour and I slowly separated the police guys from her. I put another 70 k into their hands (all what I have left in cash) and asked politely to help me to settle this. Finally they trolled of, pushing her down the staircase.

I assume they kept the money I gave them and fucked her in the next doorway as reimbursement of their troubles. Its Africa.[/QUOTE]This kinda stuff is above my stress threshold. I thought Mada was a bit less violent than the mainland. After reading this and what Neddy wrote, I think it's wise to follow his day only strategy and at night, stick to a small well defined area where you should also sleep.

I wish there was a way you could "buy" instant guanxi (connections). It would be great if for a modest fee, you could have a few names to throw around and a number or two to call that would get things done (avoid a lot of bureaucracy) and get scare goons off when they tried to mess with you.

Some of the mongers here are quite old and the crap that comes at you in Africa can't be good for your heart or health.

May be he wanted to say "boite", that is, box or "botte", I. E, boot.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2469958] Hmmm, what means"bote" for you? Because in french this word doesn't exist, not sure about what she understood. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manfield04;2469967]May be he wanted to say "boite", that is, box or "botte", I. E, boot.[/QUOTE]Assuming he said that or she understood that it s pretty normal she got upset IMHO. Saying a woman your pussy is a big box hmmmm.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2469959]This kinda stuff is above my stress threshold. I thought Mada was a bit less violent than the mainland. After reading this and what Neddy wrote, I think it's wise to follow his day only strategy and at night, stick to a small well defined area where you should also sleep.

I wish there was a way you could "buy" instant guanxi (connections). It would be great if for a modest fee, you could have a few names to throw around and a number or two to call that would get things done (avoid a lot of bureaucracy) and get scare goons off when they tried to mess with you.

Some of the mongers here are quite old and the crap that comes at you in Africa can't be good for your heart or health.[/QUOTE]There's only two things detrimental to your health in Africa. Women and alcohol. The other stuff is pretty manageable. I've met very fit white guys in their 90's. Follow the stress avoidance strategies. Stay away from the hard core ladies of the night. Plenty of students or waitresses to shag with low maintenance, low stress level. Police. Have your papers in order. Always have the necessary legal or not so legal stamps in your passport. A lot of lazy drunk bums end up having constant troubles with chicas alcohol and police. Avoid doing any kind of business. Don't marry. Why would anybody sane marry in Africa. That's beyond me with a zillion of pussy available. Unless she's related to the president and offers tangible benefits. Equally dumb is to import a chica to your home country.

The secret to a long life is stress avoidance.

My 2 cents.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2469958]Hmmm, what means"bote" for you?

Because in french this word doesn't exist, not sure about what she understood.[/QUOTE]"grosse" typo.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2469959]This kinda stuff is above my stress threshold. I thought Mada was a bit less violent than the mainland. After reading this and what Neddy wrote, I think it's wise to follow his day only strategy and at night, stick to a small well defined area where you should also sleep.
.[/QUOTE]It happened in town center. But in Mada it happens rarely. Kenians and other mainland countries bixxx's are much more agressive.

If you want to avoid it, stay back home. Simple.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2469959]I think it's wise to follow his day only strategy and at night, stick to a small well defined area where you should also sleep..[/QUOTE]Agree 100 percent.

If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.

[URL]https://africa.cgtn.com/2020/07/31/madagascar-plans-to-relaunch-tourism-sector/[/URL]

If Arabs start to come nosy be the pussy prices will increase, hopefully it not happens.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2471938][URL]https://africa.cgtn.com/2020/07/31/madagascar-plans-to-relaunch-tourism-sector/[/URL]

If arabs start to come nosy be the pussy prices will increase.hopefully it not happens.[/QUOTE]Emirates does not means Arabs, most are connecting flights from all over the world. Good idea "rapid testing on arrival".

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2471938][URL]https://africa.cgtn.com/2020/07/31/madagascar-plans-to-relaunch-tourism-sector/[/URL]

If arabs start to come nosy be the pussy prices will increase.hopefully it not happens.[/QUOTE]Lets all say a prayer that this is not going to happen.

La Buse.
But thankfully they prefer sharmoota in Lebanon and Morocco... And Mada way too uncivilized. LOL

I was a bit puzzled by this as well. Why would they single out Dubai as a gateway into Nosy Be? Surely Paris would make more sense. Not mentioned is whether or not you can jump on a plane and get the fuck out of Hellville after arrival. I am not a big fan of Nosy Be, far prefer Tamatave and Tulear. I do not think I would bother with the costs and hassle of the trip if one was only allowed to go to NB but nowhere else.

They are offering a travel insurance in case of Covid for everybody who flys with Emirates when they start again. Why not Nosy Be, Dubai is well connected. We'll see what happen or not and when.

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2472394]They are offering a travel insurance in case of Covid for everybody who flys with Emirates when they start again. Why not Nosy Be, Dubai is well connected. We'll see what happen or not and when.[/QUOTE]Did you read the terms? It includes 1500. -$ payment to your heirs in case they need you to be buried in the holiday country.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2472573]Did you read the terms? It includes 1500. -$ payment to your heirs in case they need you to be buried in the holiday country.[/QUOTE]That is something that I didn't find. Where did you find it?

I found that one here.

[URL]https://www.emirates.com/english/help/covid19-cover/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2472578]That is something that I didn't find. Where did you find it?

I found that one here.

[URL]https://www.emirates.com/english/help/covid19-cover/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Remember, in reality you will fly out of from Nosy if you have COVID.

Why? No hospital in Nosy only one doctor which he is busy busy. I saw a few beds but even the rats will refuse to lie down there.

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2472578]That is something that I didn't find. Where did you find it?

I found that one here.

[URL]https://www.emirates.com/english/help/covid19-cover/[/URL][/QUOTE]Read the terms & conditions:

Assistance in the event of an.

Covered person's death:

In case of COVID-19.

Epidemic / pandemic.

Transporting the body to home.

Country.

Actual costs.

Funeral costs Up to a limit, per covered.

Person of €1,500.

I really don't give a rat's ass about the body repatriation money if I am already worm food. My main concern is being limited to only using Emirates and only being allowed to land in Nosy Be. I would (currently if I cannot get to Asia) be coming from western Canada which I can tell you is a long fucking haul in one go, via Dubai or not. Trying to get a reasonable cost / connection is probably going to be very difficult and expensive.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2472691]I really don't give a rat's ass about the body repatriation money if I am already worm food. My main concern is being limited to only using Emirates and only being allowed to land in Nosy Be..[/QUOTE]I think its a misunderstanding. In another article of L'express its said that the airport may open for all airlines, but only NosyBe airport. And the Emirates-topic is just an add on to bring in more passengers.

Just keep your feet still and wait what will happen.

I agree with south Easter. You could try Toronto. Addis - Nosy Be.

Of course Emirates is only one idea to bring more tourists, until now airports are closed and there is no exactly date for opening, but I have an eye on it. It sounds like a plan. That small island can be easier controlled than the big island. In case of you become sick, I didn't see the hospital, but a Western guy told me he had an accident there and an operation. The doctor at home said good job well done. So it depends on what do you need, stay there or fly out. I guess that hospital in Nosy Be runs by Italians and I could imagine that the Italians could bring there some equipment. A lot of Italians joining their vacation at Nosy Be. We will see what happen. If they open I would expect that they have a concept otherwise they would loose a lot of tourists or nobody will come.

I am, like the rest of you eagerly awaiting news of a return to flights in and out. If it is not too difficult (see Cambodia!) and travel onward from NB to other places then I am in. With so much of the world in disarray and new cases popping up in VN and Cambodia (my usual stomping grounds) trying to plan anything is almost impossible. I am seriously considering heading to Mexico for a couple of months in September and seeing if any progress is made as I wait it out. Only problem is self isolating for another 2 weeks when I get back!

SE.

News from Madagascar, Nosy Be will open at 1. October.

[URL]https://www.linfo.re/ocean-indien/madagascar/madagascar-deconfinement-reouverture-du-tourisme-a-nosy-be-le-1er-octobre?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook[/URL]

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2474995]News from Madagascar, Nosy Be will open at 1. October.

[URL]https://www.linfo.re/ocean-indien/madagascar/madagascar-deconfinement-reouverture-du-tourisme-a-nosy-be-le-1er-octobre?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook[/URL][/QUOTE]Tourist will not allows get outside Nosy Be. According to him, a negative PCR test will also be mandatory on departure and arrival.

No one will go and November is start of rainy season. So normally this season has near zero tourists without Corona and restrictions.

Well as I feared they are not allowing travel outside of NB which is a deal breaker for me. And as NM says, November is already start of the rainy season. There is no way I will go for a minimum of 2 months if I am forced to stay on NB. I am certain you could get out if you wanted, but I would not want to try travelling around as a whitey sticking out like a sore thumb. It could get very expensive if caught. They are going to have to drop that requirement if they really want tourists (the other kind!) to come back. The covid tests are not going to help either. Best guess, maybe December-January?

To stay at nosy be would fine for me. Take in consideration that not only single male travel to nosy be. About 50% of tourist industry in Madagascar is on nosy be. Aircraft can fly directly from Europe to nosy be. It is easier to control as long as everything takes place on that small island. From that point of view it is a good idea for the tourism industry. If somebody will travel there I would be interested in any information. January would be interesting for me.

The real date for opening of countries for tourism and mongering is when the working vaccine will be ready.

All marketing tricks will try to convince you that you can board now but when you face the airline in the airport they can send you back home. (or not).

In Nosy big chance to get a normal flu or eye infection in the rainy season. I got both and it was hell so for me if Nosy only the dry and cool season. Now don't forget that schools in Mada are closed and people afraid to go on Taxi Brousse.

Here is the latest time frame info.

"How confident are you we'll have a working vaccine that can be widely distributed by the end of 2020?

"Well, the initial vaccine won't be ideal in terms of its effectiveness against sickness and transmission. It may not have a long duration, and it will mainly be used in rich countries as a stopgap measure. We'the be lucky to have much before the end of the year. But then, in 2021, a number of other vaccines are very likely to get approved."

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-bill-gates-covid-vaccine/[/URL]

Each to his own. Nosy Be is my least favourite place of those I have tried. I am well aware that Nosy Be gets a lot of "regular" tourists. That is one of the things I don't like about it. Those regular tourists may also balk at going through the hoops only to be limited to one small island. Eventually other places, both more beautiful and with better infrastructure will open up. This will affect Mada for sure, and not in a good way. I suppose for the Europe based mongers it is worth it for a couple of weeks but for a couple of months, having to travel almost half way around the planet it is no go for me, at least for now. They will probably botch it completely and a massive second wave will shut the entire place down for another 6 months. I hope I am wrong.

[QUOTE=Adrien69;2423549]Thanks for the tips. I'm headed to Tana in a few months and have good French. Any particular bars / pubs by the university that you can recommend?[/QUOTE]I made it to Tana some time back and will stay here for a few years for work. Because of the nature of my job, I have to keep my extracurricular activities on the down low.

Not only would I much prefer an 18-25 non-pro student to a professional, I cannot been seen out at the clubs.

What streets / cafés would be good for day game, and what bars / pubs might have sweet young students?

What online resources have you Mada mongers used online successfully? [URL]Mitadymaika.com[/URL] has some interesting ads, albeit at elevated prices compared to the figures shared here.

Adrien.

[QUOTE=Adrien69;2481357]I made it to Tana some time back and will stay here for a few years for work. Because of the nature of my job, I have to keep my extracurricular activities on the down low.

Not only would I much prefer an 18-25 non-pro student to a professional, I cannot been seen out at the clubs.

What streets / cafs would be good for day game, and what bars / pubs might have sweet young students?

What online resources have you Mada mongers used online successfully? [URL]Mitadymaika.com[/URL] has some interesting ads, albeit at elevated prices compared to the figures shared here.

Adrien.[/QUOTE]Long time I didn't use online for mada.

But when I used the best for me was afrointro but you must pay.

Then Badoo and also fdating.

[QUOTE=Adrien69;2481357]I made it to Tana some time back and will stay here for a few years for work. Because of the nature of my job, I have to keep my extracurricular activities on the down low.

Not only would I much prefer an 18-25 non-pro student to a professional, I cannot been seen out at the clubs.

What streets / cafs would be good for day game, and what bars / pubs might have sweet young students?

What online resources have you Mada mongers used online successfully? [URL]Mitadymaika.com[/URL] has some interesting ads, albeit at elevated prices compared to the figures shared here.

Adrien.[/QUOTE]You actually work there?? Where can I apply? LOL. No need for you to go to clubs. Sit during the day in the Glacier have a coffee and a cake. There's chicas the whole day. Just sit there and observe. Wave and smile. Thats it. Also around glacier I had girls hit on me in the afternoon. Also Buffet du Jardin there's is always chicas hanging out for take away. Typically sitting alone and sipping on a soda. But they probably want more.
After night fall cruise with your car around the rue de l'independence. There's 100's of SWs plying their trade.

Students. Walk around in the park at Lac Anosy. Lot of students take their lunch break there. Get used to hit anything which catches your eye.

For a short weekend hop over to Tamatave. Paradise.

Now of course still curfew. As the president does his best to kill off the remainder of the economy and starving people to death.I think his popularity is already massively shrinking. Take care.
Internet. Try Afro, Badoo or Tonga Soa.

La Buse.

Whose longing to return to Isle rouge.

[QUOTE=Adrien69;2481357]I made it to Tana some time back and will stay here for a few years for work.

Adrien.[/QUOTE]So you already 4 month in Tana and you ask where to find girls?

Its like you walk in the desert 4 month and pull your mobile phone log into a forum and ask please where can I find sand.

Remind me a few classics from John Wick 3 "please give this man a gun".

[QUOTE=Adrien69;2481357]

What online resources have you Mada mongers used online successfully?

Adrien.[/QUOTE]I don't find Afrointro good because you must pay. Badoo is ok. FB is also ok if you already have a database of a few girls and can find the friends of the friends.

My 2 Favs are tonga-[URL]soa.com[/URL] and [URL]https://www.vidamora.com/[/URL].

Both free and many willing couocus. They quote that they search for marriage. But they are not adverse to do a test ride.

BUT: as resident you will have problems of getting rid of them. Mada girls are jealous and clinging.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2481495]You actually work there??[/QUOTE]I count around 7 massage house around Manson Bar. I personally visit 3 of them. One alley I found 3 one next to the other as shown in the photo.

All girls can be take out to back your place. So you want to tell me this huge sign are hard to find for a guy that live there? Does this red sign is too small?
Some of the girls has super light color, some even looks close to thai. Just dont forget to get "upgraded" to the Jacuzzi room while you negotiating. Price for white girl will get down to 100k eventually.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2481726]I count around 7 massage house around Manson Bar. I personally visit 3 of them. One alley I found 3 one next to the other as shown in the photo.

All girls can be take out to back your place. So you want to tell me this huge sign are hard to find for a guy that live there? Does this red sign is too small?
Some of the girls has super light color, some even looks close to thai. Just dont forget to get "upgraded" to the Jacuzzi room while you negotiating. Price for white girl will get down to 100k eventually.[/QUOTE]I would not touch a place in Mada having english signboards = Tourist traps.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2481726]I count around 7 massage house around Manson Bar. I personally visit 3 of them. One alley I found 3 one next to the other as shown in the photo.

All girls can be take out to back your place. So you want to tell me this huge sign are hard to find for a guy that live there? Does this red sign is too small?
Some of the girls has super light color, some even looks close to thai. Just dont forget to get "upgraded" to the Jacuzzi room while you negotiating. Price for white girl will get down to 100k eventually.[/QUOTE]Massage places are a ripoff IMHO. Overpriced and lousy service. I don't care if she s white or black price is the same and certainly not 100 k for ST. Make sure pussy is still pink though.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2481421]Long time I didn't use online for mada.[/QUOTE]Fully agree. Impossible not to find a girl in mada on your own even if you are blind. Besides the guy says he speaks French so wtf? Some people are lazy indeed.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2481807]I would not touch a place in Mada having english signboards = Tourist traps.[/QUOTE]I was in 3 of them and not a trap. They did everything.

To put everything into context I am not a massage fan but its far better then the pigs and dogs of Glacier and Manson. Not to mention that its daytime as I don't hang around when dark in Tana.

The best way is online but personally I have a GF already 4 years from Sambava. Problem with Mada Passport is that they need a visa for most countries in the case you want to take her for a trip. So I was asking Neddy about apartments in Dar since they get Visa on arrival for 3 month. But tourist visa to Thailand should be done easily.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Malagasy_citizens[/URL]

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2481593] FB is also ok if you already have a database of a few girls and can find the friends of the friends.[/QUOTE]FB is not just OK its the number one platform in Mada for girls. All Mada girls have facebook access nearly for free. Let me explain.

In Mada most girls do not have 4 G data bundle so they just buy near free price FB bundle it allow them to use unlimited Data but only in FB. Thats why FB is used by all Mada its mostly paid by FB to local Moble service providers. In the Philippines is also totally free when you open the APP you get free access only to FB.

So if you want a GF the use FB in places such as Toliara, Ambilombe Ambanja etc. No way you will not find a serious girl if you have money and time to spend. Foe some rural girls money is everthing and I know if from my own GF. Yes city girls are harder and different animal.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2481538]So you already 4 month in Tana and you ask where to find girls?

Its like you walk in the desert 4 month and pull your mobile phone log into a forum and ask please where can I find sand.

Remind me a few classics from John Wick 3 "please give this man a gun".[/QUOTE]Hahahaha. You made my day.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2481900]Hahahaha. You made my day.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]Its from John Wick 2.

LOL.

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I recall being in Sosua 10+ years ago and hanging out with a bunch of guys over food at the beach. 60+ overweight guy from Florida is talking about the collapse of his 20+ year marriage and asking everyone where the girls are, how readily available they are, where to go / what time etc etc. Memorable how excited and nervous he was. What should I say / what should I do. On and on. Total newbie as we all were at one time.

That night in the packed German bar on a Pedro Clisante, he is sitting alone looking uncomfortable and frustrated.

I walk over say Hello, how's it going, how are you making out?

He starts in again in his marriage as if I hadn't held his fucking hand hours before.

He is miserable; doesn't know what to say, or do.

Now the guy was no looker, clearly had no game and certainly wasn't a future travel buddy of mine.

But to be a good sport, (and end his sniveling), I said tell me which girl looks good to you. He points out a homely 3/10 who had next to no chance of getting picked up that night. I dragged her over to him, pushed her waist hard into him (neither style that coming and he damn near got knocked off bar stool. Oops - and then introduced them to each other in horrible broken Spanish.

The man got laid that night. Saw him walk out with her.

But he was a mess with girls; it's not a sin. And why he was there.

Our 'can't find sand in the desert dude' might have the same issue.

Don't worry my man. Give it your best shot, and with one out of how every many you try with, you'll succeed and be happy with it. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2481813]Fully agree. Impossible not to find a girl in mada on your own even if you are blind. Besides the guy says he speaks French so wtf? Some people are lazy indeed.[/QUOTE]

Speaking of which; I'm heading to Kampala and could use the same help. Not necessarily a place to stay, where to go, or a hard push into some chick's lap.

I can read the forum and African pussy isn't hard to find. But in the sense that we are brother's in arms, would love to chill with some good guys, since my dick only stays hard for that long. A cold beer and a point me in the right direction would be appreciated. Was in Mexico City a few weeks ago and can tell a few tales of getting around Covid, and have a lot of travel experience. The regular Tijuana, Sosua till boredom, Costa Rica, Columbia too over the last 10+ years, and to Africa, Dark Continent.

The Gambia, (2nd time a waste, but walking with lions in Senegal wasnt something I'll ever forget.

Mombassa 3 x.

Ghana.

Tanzania.

And so on.

For those who want to go to Nosy Be, look here.

[URL]https://madagascar-tourisme.com/fr/reouverture-de-lile-de-nosy-be-2/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2481495]You actually work there?? [/QUOTE]Currently it seems that's all I do, which is why I need a distraction or two.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2481495]
Students. Walk around in the park at Lac Anosy. Lot of students take their lunch break there. Get used to hit anything which catches your eye.

For a short weekend hop over to Tamatave. Paradise.

Now of course still curfew. As the president does his best to kill off the remainder of the economy and starving people to death.I think his popularity is already massively shrinking. Take care.
Internet. Try Afro, Badoo or Tonga Soa.

La Buse.

Whose longing to return to Isle rouge.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestion of Lac Anosy, that's a capital idea.

It's still forbidden to travel outside Analamanga unless transporting cargo. I don't think pussy is included.

Also the curfew has been shortened to 11 pm to 4 am. Will international flights resume soon? It seems likely.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2481593]I don't find Afrointro good because you must pay. Badoo is ok. FB is also ok if you already have a database of a few girls and can find the friends of the friends.

My 2 Favs are [URL]tonga-soa.com[/URL] and [URL]https://www.vidamora.com/[/URL].

Both free and many willing couocus. They quote that they search for marriage. But they are not adverse to do a test ride.

BUT: as resident you will have problems of getting rid of them. Mada girls are jealous and clinging.[/QUOTE]Sounds like taking them to a hotel, rather than my spiffy apartment, seems in order. Don't want them to locate me after our date, unless I do, for which I have a separate mobile, separate from professional activities.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2481726]I count around 7 massage house around Manson Bar. I personally visit 3 of them. One alley I found 3 one next to the other as shown in the photo.

All girls can be take out to back your place. So you want to tell me this huge sign are hard to find for a guy that live there? Does this red sign is too small?
Some of the girls has super light color, some even looks close to thai. Just dont forget to get "upgraded" to the Jacuzzi room while you negotiating. Price for white girl will get down to 100k eventually.[/QUOTE]Much appreciated, very useful.

[QUOTE=ChrisBigdog;2484324]I recall being in Sosua 10+ years ago and hanging out with a bunch of guys over food at the beach. 60+ overweight guy from Florida is talking about the collapse of his 20+ year marriage and asking everyone where the girls are, how readily available they are, where to go / what time etc etc. Memorable how excited and nervous he was. What should I say / what should I do. On and on. Total newbie as we all were at one time.

That night in the packed German bar on a Pedro Clisante, he is sitting alone looking uncomfortable and frustrated.

I walk over say Hello, how's it going, how are you making out?

He starts in again in his marriage as if I hadn't held his fucking hand hours before.

He is miserable; doesn't know what to say, or do.

Now the guy was no looker, clearly had no game and certainly wasn't a future travel buddy of mine..[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing the story, but your speculations are off the mark. Utmost discretion with regard to who from the office (or their acquaintances) might see me enjoying my hobby is of paramount concern, and that complicates things. "I think I saw Adrien's car at Lac Anosy during lunchtime. I wonder what he was doing there?" is the sort of gossip I cannot afford.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2481822]FB is not just OK its the number one platform in Mada for girls. All Mada girls have facebook access nearly for free. Let me explain.

In Mada most girls do not have 4 G data bundle so they just buy near free price FB bundle it allow them to use unlimited Data but only in FB. Thats why FB is used by all Mada its mostly paid by FB to local Moble service providers. In the Philippines is also totally free when you open the APP you get free access only to FB.

So if you want a GF the use FB in places such as Toliara, Ambilombe Ambanja etc. No way you will not find a serious girl if you have money and time to spend. Foe some rural girls money is everthing and I know if from my own GF. Yes city girls are harder and different animal.[/QUOTE]Thanks NmExpert, much more useful than suggesting I blow my brains out.

[QUOTE=Adrien69;2484568]Thanks for sharing the story, but your speculations are off the mark. Utmost discretion with regard to who from the office (or their acquaintances) might see me enjoying my hobby is of paramount concern, and that complicates things. "I think I saw Adrien's car at Lac Anosy during lunchtime. I wonder what he was doing there?" is the sort of gossip I cannot afford.[/QUOTE]Old saying in the village, don't shit where you eat. On the same lines, don't take your car where you boink, if you do, don't park in front. Or make sure there's a bank or super market next to it.

Tana is actually a small place specially regarding vazahas. Believing locals won't know or talk about what you are doing is pure utopia. Sooner or later you will get caught. Deal with it or leave.

[QUOTE=Adrien69;2481357]I made it to Tana some time back and will stay here for a few years for work. Because of the nature of my job, I have to keep my extracurricular activities on the down low.

Not only would I much prefer an 18-25 non-pro student to a professional, I cannot been seen out at the clubs.

What streets / cafs would be good for day game, and what bars / pubs might have sweet young students?

What online resources have you Mada mongers used online successfully? [URL]Mitadymaika.com[/URL] has some interesting ads, albeit at elevated prices compared to the figures shared here.

Adrien.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Tana. I have lived here for 6 years with the same issue of confidentiality you face. Hide my dirty hobby from wife, kids, friends and colleagues.

1 - Facebook has plenty of groups where girls advertise for "PLANS". Contact girls who don't show their face.

2 - In case of emergency, use VIP massage in Ivandry. Green sign. You get there by car, private parking. Expensive but clean.

3 - Use a scooter.

4 - Some convenient hotel that do not ask for an ID, rent rooms for a few hours and have a discreet parling: Secret de Tana, Alarobia, Super Dream, 67 ha.

Good hunt.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2481726]I count around 7 massage house around Manson Bar. I personally visit 3 of them. One alley I found 3 one next to the other as shown in the photo.

All girls can be take out to back your place. So you want to tell me this huge sign are hard to find for a guy that live there? Does this red sign is too small?
Some of the girls has super light color, some even looks close to thai. Just dont forget to get "upgraded" to the Jacuzzi room while you negotiating. Price for white girl will get down to 100k eventually.[/QUOTE]What would be your favorit massage booth in Tana?

I just read that Madagascar is opening airports to international traffic by 1st of October.

Interregional traffic was already opened since 1 month.

Bar, karaoke, restaurant will reopen too.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2485854]I just read that Madagascar is opening airports to international traffic by 1st of October.

Interregional traffic was already opened since 1 month.

Bar, karaoke, restaurant will reopen too.[/QUOTE]Where you have this wisdom from? The only international airport open from October 1st is Nosy Be. And as a tourist you are not allowed to leave Nosy Be and the Island Archipelago.

I have information that from END of October the airports of Tamatave, Diego Suarez and Fort Dauphin are open for flights from Reunion only. And I did not see that in writing either. As far as I know Ivato Airport is and will remain closed for the foreseeable future except for domestic flights with Tsaradia. And with cases on the rise in many European countries I don't see Antanarivo international Airport open up for international flights any time soon. Of any member has other information please post it but with the source. I. e. Official government press release. All other things is just Blabla and hearsay.

La Buse.

I already stated. International flights will resume to Ivato earliest April 2021. If I am wrong I pay the first senior member a beer In No Comment bar in Tana. LOL.

Same thought here buddy! I thought he was either being funny or trolling us there are a couple of trolls in the Madagascar thread be careful.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2481538]So you already 4 month in Tana and you ask where to find girls?

Its like you walk in the desert 4 month and pull your mobile phone log into a forum and ask please where can I find sand.

Remind me a few classics from John Wick 3 "please give this man a gun".[/QUOTE]

Info about opening is here.

[URL]https://la1ere.francetvinfo.fr/reunion/madagascar-reprise-des-vols-internationaux-et-regionaux-873090.html[/URL]

But you are right, could be wrong.

Just saw that, and no other links or sources.

Well the article certainly looks the real deal. If true I would love to take advantage of it but I am leery of making plans for anything regarding travel right now. The timing sucks big time as well. Opening up just in time for rainy / hurricane season.

Who is going to be the first Guinea pig and try it?

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2486156]Well the article certainly looks the real deal. If true I would love to take advantage of it but I am leery of making plans for anything regarding travel right now. The timing sucks big time as well. Opening up just in time for rainy / hurricane season.

Who is going to be the first Guinea pig and try it?[/QUOTE]I checked today on flight radar 24. There's one daily flight from Reunion and Mauritius. But that doesn't mean even if you make it to Reunion that you as a tourist are actually allowed to board it.

I'll stay in Tanzania. The only sensible country right now. No Covid. No masks. No BS. Plenty food pussy and cheap booze. In short. Paradise.

La Buse.

Yes, this article looks strange, I guess they speak mainly to la areéunion to Madagascar flights, and even conditions to embark are to be checked.

Tanzania seems open as Neddy says, but also Kenya is open. You have been there from 25 of August to 6 of September, from France, via Lufthansa. Plane was full.

Conditions were to get a covid negative test less than 72 h before entry and qr code generated by an app which is a "sur l'honneur questionnaire".

But now, from France, Tests results are given in more than 3 days so impossible to get again to Kenya now.

I was there for Safari, no mongering, but was possible to move in town with mask and there was a curfew every night.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2486332]Yes, this article looks strange, I guess they speak mainly to la areunion to Madagascar flights, and even conditions to embark are to be checked.

Tanzania seems open as Neddy says, but also Kenya is open. You have been there from 25 of August to 6 of September, from France, via Lufthansa. Plane was full.

Conditions were to get a covid negative test less than 72 h before entry and qr code generated by an app which is a "sur l'honneur questionnaire".

But now, from France, Tests results are given in more than 3 days so impossible to get again to Kenya now.

I was there for Safari, no mongering, but was possible to move in town with mask and there was a curfew every night.[/QUOTE]Yes Kenya is "open". That means you can enter. So is Rwanda and from October 1st so is Uganda.

But is Kenya enjoyable? No. Curfew. Masks everywhere. Coast and Mtwapa is dead as a dodo. No tourists= no pussy. Except some leftovers. Bars closed. What you want to do there??

Tanzania is OPEN. And that means EVERYTHING.

La Buse.

And with regards to the useless tests. Use a PDF editor. Don't be a fool... Here in TZ they have great customer service. They issue Covid certificates with any specified date. hahaha.
A and if you want to waste your money on overpriced safari sleeping in a tent for a 100 dollars a night. you can do that in Tanzania as well. And you don't have to wear a mask in the bush either. LOL

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2486334]Yes Kenya is "open". That means you can enter. So is Rwanda and from October 1st so is Uganda.

But is Kenya enjoyable? No. Curfew. Masks everywhere. Coast and Mtwapa is dead as a dodo. No tourists= no pussy. Except some leftovers. Bars closed. What you want to do there??

Tanzania is OPEN. And that means EVERYTHING.

La Buse.

And with regards to the useless tests. Use a PDF editor. Don't be a fool... Here in TZ they have great customer service. They issue Covid certificates with any specified date. hahaha.
A and if you want to waste your money on overpriced safari sleeping in a tent for a 100 dollars a night. you can do that in Tanzania as well. And you don't have to wear a mask in the bush either. LOL[/QUOTE]There is a big difference though, these countries are coming out an extremely long lockdown, the girls are so hungry for money now more then ever, no income during all these months. . So if you have already a lot of friends from the last times it's in my opinion money time now.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2486334]Yes Kenya is "open". That means you can enter. So is Rwanda and from October 1st so is Uganda.

But is Kenya enjoyable? No. Curfew. Masks everywhere. Coast and Mtwapa is dead as a dodo. No tourists= no pussy. Except some leftovers. Bars closed. What you want to do there??

Tanzania is OPEN. And that means EVERYTHING.

La Buse.

And with regards to the useless tests. Use a PDF editor. Don't be a fool... Here in TZ they have great customer service. They issue Covid certificates with any specified date. hahaha.
A and if you want to waste your money on overpriced safari sleeping in a tent for a 100 dollars a night. you can do that in Tanzania as well. And you don't have to wear a mask in the bush either. LOL[/QUOTE]I can agree with your saying but I was talking about Kenya just to mention that it was open, nothing more. But surely curfew and masks are there, so. Not so enjoyable. And if I do Safari its my choice, when I travel I can have different goals depending on my wishes.

Regarding false tests, I also agree fully. When we arrive, the first lane was for tests control. One by one we had to show our phone with the document. The girl was thoroughly checking the document and after some time, if ok, she was saying, ok go to the next check.

But never she checked our passport, so she checked the test without knowing my name.

All doors for falsification are wide open in this case 😁.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2485942]Info about opening is here.

[URL]https://la1ere.francetvinfo.fr/reunion/madagascar-reprise-des-vols-internationaux-et-regionaux-873090.html[/URL]

But you are right, could be wrong.

Just saw that, and no other links or sources.[/QUOTE]What we've heard here in MAdagascar is that.

On October 1st, international flights will resume but only to Nosy Be, it will then be "forbidden" to get from Nosy Be to the main island.

"Soon", regional flights will resume, but only to Diego, Tulear, Taolagnaro and Toamasina. Regional means from La Reunion mostly.

EDIT: Sorry, La Buse had already given the same info

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2485921]Where you have this wisdom from? The only international airport open from October 1st is Nosy Be. And as a tourist you are not allowed to leave Nosy Be and the Island Archipelago.

I have information that from END of October the airports of Tamatave, Diego Suarez and Fort Dauphin are open for flights from Reunion only. And I did not see that in writing either. As far as I know Ivato Airport is and will remain closed for the foreseeable future except for domestic flights with Tsaradia. And with cases on the rise in many European countries I don't see Antanarivo international Airport open up for international flights any time soon. Of any member has other information please post it but with the source. I. e. Official government press release. All other things is just Blabla and hearsay.

La Buse.

I already stated. International flights will resume to Ivato earliest April 2021. If I am wrong I pay the first senior member a beer In No Comment bar in Tana. LOL.[/QUOTE]April 2021? Castel Gold for me.

I did read yesterday on L'express de Madagascar that the new terminal on Ivato Airport is under final testing with hired volunteers. One of the major excercises is people management for testing on Covid. It was said once the procedures are confirmed working, they will open that terminal for international flights.

However, a date was not given.

Today first tourists arrived. If anybody is there I would be interested in that situation there.

[URL]https://lexpress.mg/01/10/2020/ouverture-de-nosy-be-confusion-des-conditions-de-rapatriement/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2488901]Today first tourists arrived. If anybody is there I would be interested in that situation there.

[URL]https://lexpress.mg/01/10/2020/ouverture-de-nosy-be-confusion-des-conditions-de-rapatriement/[/URL][/QUOTE]All Inland routes by Taxi Brousse are open. Ethiopian is operating to Nosy Be. Return flight to Europe around 1064 euros. That is info from my boots on the ground. Girls are hungry. Prices for food and accommodation dropped. Fly to Nosy Be. Rescue the poor starving girls. LOL.

La Buse.

Here an article in french about issues between air France and air Madagascar, but it is also said that there were regular flights from Madagascar to Paris in both ways and both companies, every weeks.

But it is said here that ivato is closed.

Difficult to understand the reality.

LE Monde: Des passagers cloués au sol par les bisbilles entre Air France et Air Madagascar.

[URL]https://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/2020/10/02/des-passagers-cloues-au-sol-par-les-bisbilles-entre-air-france-et-air-madagascar_6054518_3212.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2489153]
Difficult to understand the reality.

LE Monde: Des passagers clous au sol par les bisbilles entre Air France et Air Madagascar.

[/QUOTE]Air Mad wants to do all the repatriation flights. Not allowing Air France and others to load the plane in both directions. Since divorced with AirAustral they going more downhill. Dickheads.

Hey,

I have heard very good things about Madagascar. But only about the ease of meeting girls and the low cost of living.

Can you tell me how they behave and what their character is in general?

Have regular girls sturdy temperament and hard feeling or re they sweet? Are they all oriented towards the god of money?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2489712]Hey,

I have heard very good things about Madagascar. But only about the ease of meeting girls and the low cost of living.

Can you tell me how they behave and what their character is in general?

Have regular girls sturdy temperament and hard feeling or re they sweet? Are they all oriented towards the god of money?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]What you heard is all wrong. The girls are mercenaries. They only go for your money. And living is not cheap but dangerous. Many thieves on the road to fleece you. Hotelrooms are dirty. No hospitals if you get sick. You know that there is still the plague?

Better stay away.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2489920]What you heard is all wrong. The girls are mercenaries. They only go for your money. And living is not cheap but dangerous. Many thieves on the road to fleece you. Hotelrooms are dirty. No hospitals if you get sick. You know that there is still the plague?

Better stay away.[/QUOTE]I like that answer and comments. All the goodies for me.

RTFF!

Happy after Corona. Pour les conquerants courageux.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2489712]Hey,

I have heard very good things about Madagascar. But only about the ease of meeting girls and the low cost of living.

Can you tell me how they behave and what their character is in general?

Have regular girls sturdy temperament and hard feeling or re they sweet? Are they all oriented towards the god of money?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Ya stay away. Remain in front of your PC and continue asking dumb questions in all african subfora. Troll away.

Neddy.

Dear friends,

Stay away from people who think they know everything or almost everything but then they don't. I know that everything is subjective and one thing works for a guy and not for another one but in these cases, the effort of the objectivity of the guys is to be appreciated.

I learned this in this forum, certainly here you all only pay attention to the pro girls and I understand that working in that direction is much easier but also tiring in the long run. Therefore you have to be careful if you go off topic here. Ahahahaah.

Never thought they plan to open taxibe disco at ambilobe. This city was before on my list, but now even more curious to visit it someday.

Yes it does seem an odd spot for a Taxi Be. Place is not very big and doesn't exactly have a reputation as a go to monger spot. OTOH, at least an excuse to break up that god awful trip from Ambanja to Diego. Maybe due to the kickoff on reopening starting in Nosy Be they anticipate greater ground traffic between the 2?

I will possibly be going overland at least one way when they finally open up the country so very well may stop over a night or 2 and have a look around.

I do hope Tulear does not get one. It has a still (slightly) laid back untrampled vibe that I enjoy when I am there.

[QUOTE=HumanPerson2;2495043]
Does anybody have reports from the ground on travel within the country I see a few reports mentioning taxi brousse are operating, but other conflicting information (reports and online) that vazaha aren't permitted to travel. I don't mind flying into NB but certainly wouldn't want to be trapped there.[/QUOTE]Short answer: Yes, you can fly onto NosyBe island, (at the moment only with EthiopianAir) undergo the CovidTest, stay a few days under quarantine in your hotel before before you can move around on the island. But you are not allowed to leave the island. Neither by flight nor by boat. You may be able to sneak out. But the risk is high that on the way back you get trapped somewhere. There will be no repatriation fligts anymore after Nov 1st.

Only residents are allowed to travel nationwide. If you have a girlfriend in Tana or Diego for excample, then she could join you in NosyBe. This are not conflicting news. People just shall read the local news in french and understand them.

Yes but only if your are not a citizen of the following countries.

[URL]https://i.servimg.com/u/f62/18/33/00/47/mada_v10.jpg[/URL]

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2495487]Yes but only if your are not a citizen of the following countries.

[URL]https://i.servimg.com/u/f62/18/33/00/47/mada_v10.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]Sadly yes. This avis came out yesterday.

But if you are from Austria, Swiss or even the US, you could if there is a flight. But there is none. Because in addition Ethiopian Air was ordered to stop all flights.

Chaos!

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2495161]Short answer:

Yes, you can fly onto NosyBe island, (at the moment only with EthiopianAir) undergo the CovidTest, stay a few days under quarantine in your hotel before before you can move around on the island..[/QUOTE]Some of my friends in Mada told me, that they fully closed Mada again. ? Because the growing COVID19 numbers in Europe etc.

Today I also read that Ethopian doesn't fly anymore and if you look to that website you will see it is like closing the border again. Cases all over Europe increasing massive. Covid is back in Europe, it just started and winter will come soon. I guess no way to go to Madagascar or Nosy Be soon.

[URL]https://de.flightaware.com/live/airport/FMNN/arrivals[/URL]

[QUOTE=SmallBuns;2276377]. The massage lady laughed when she saw me naked and my girl topless with a little towel barely covering her bottom. She just stood there and kept looking at us. I put on my briefs while my girl put on her shorts and bra, under the watchful eye of the massage lady. We walked out to the beach and found a nice little tree, under which I got an excellent 1. 5 hour oil massage while my girl just sat there and chatted with the massage lady. There was one funny moment when the lady was working on my belly and I got a boner that popped out of my briefs. She asked my girl to take care of it and my girl dutifully slipped it back inside my briefs. At the end of the massage, I thanked the lady and paid the fee (15,000 including a 3,000 tip) expecting that she would leave and I would take my girl back in the room. That was not to be. The two women kept on chatting. I was in no hurry. There was a nice cold breeze blowing, the shade of the small tree was comfortable, and there wasn't a soul on the beach besides the three of us. I put my head in my girls lap and just relaxed for a while, with an occasional lick of her belly button (which she received with an energetic spasm in her belly). I was so relaxed and getting so turned on that I started raising my head up and trying to lick the underside of her boob or jam my tongue between her chest and the bra. The massage lady said something to which my girl laughed loudly. They both looked up and down the beach to see who else was there, and then my girl gave me a big smile, and removed her bra completely to let her boobs fall on my face. I played and sucked on her boobs like a child for the next 30-40 minutes while she was yapping away with the massage lady. While she gave me a few random pecks on the cheek or ran her hands through my hair when I sucked too hard, she continued her conversation like I wasn't even there. When I took a break and looked up at the sky, she would again give me a quick kiss and offer me her breast!

Finally, the massage lady left and we walked back to my room. My girl just walked around topless and greeted the staff at the hotel. It was amazing to see how open she was about her body and her sexuality! We had two rounds of intense sex in the room before I had to pack up and leave for Tamatave. I gave her some chocolates but she refused to take any money, saying that she did not need it. She asked me to get shampoo the next time I was there! Using google translate, I asked her later what the massage lady had said that caused her to remove her bra. Apparently, she said "your baby is hungry for your breasts. " She said "no, there are people around," to which the massage lady said no one is here so give him your love". If only the rest of the world was as open about love and sex. ! Love can be found in the most unexpected of places. 
.[/QUOTE]If you have enjoyed reading posts like above, you would be happy to know that SmallBuns has published an excellent travel memoir called "Eat F*ck Love" detailing his escapades while on a backpacking trip in Western Europe. It is funny, steamy and titillating. I found the book highly entertaining. Smallbuns being a modest man won't promote his book. However I as one of his first readers strongly recommend it. It helps that the book could be purchased for as little as $4, and the first 30 odd pages are free to read on amazon.

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Love-Enli...dp/B08HYKW452/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;2495785]I. It helps that the book could be purchased for as little as $4, and the first 30 odd pages are free to read on amazon.

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Love-Enli...dp/B08HYKW452/[/URL][/QUOTE]SPAM! Do your business elsewhere.

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2495587]Today I also read that Ethopian doesn't fly anymore and if you look to that website you will see it is like closing the border again. Cases all over Europe increasing massive. Covid is back in Europe, it just started and winter will come soon. I guess no way to go to Madagascar or Nosy Be soon.

[URL]https://de.flightaware.com/live/airport/FMNN/arrivals[/URL][/QUOTE]Ethopian is still flying.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2495936]SPAM! Do your business elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Error in the link, the book is here.

And 18 $ instead of 4, but I confirm the quality of this book and I support the recommendation.

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Love-Enlightening-Epiphanies-Backpacker/dp/B08J1TMPBL[/URL]

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2495971]Ethopian is still flying.[/QUOTE]Boarding any flight to NosyBe at those mentioned countries is not possible.

But you can fly to Addis or Reunion. Have a stopover. And with a second separate ticket got to NB.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2481726]I count around 7 massage house around Manson Bar. I personally visit 3 of them. One alley I found 3 one next to the other as shown in the photo.

All girls can be take out to back your place. So you want to tell me this huge sign are hard to find for a guy that live there? Does this red sign is too small?
Some of the girls has super light color, some even looks close to thai. Just dont forget to get "upgraded" to the Jacuzzi room while you negotiating. Price for white girl will get down to 100k eventually.[/QUOTE]So I tried the place with the Daily Massage sign you posted. It's a dump, not very clean, one cute girl whom I shared the Jacuzzi room with. Will scout around a bit more.

[QUOTE=Nemo974;2485089]Welcome to Tana. I have lived here for 6 years with the same issue of confidentiality you face. Hide my dirty hobby from wife, kids, friends and colleagues.

1 - Facebook has plenty of groups where girls advertise for "PLANS". Contact girls who don't show their face.

2 - In case of emergency, use VIP massage in Ivandry. Green sign. You get there by car, private parking. Expensive but clean.

3 - Use a scooter.

4 - Some convenient hotel that do not ask for an ID, rent rooms for a few hours and have a discreet parling: Secret de Tana, Alarobia, Super Dream, 67 ha.

Good hunt.[/QUOTE]Dude,

Your advice was the hookup I needed! I did have an emergency and visited VIP. Wow, the girls were beautiful, I selected a fine young specimen who gave great BBBJ, rode me with great pleasure. The jacuzzi is huge, I probably should have brought two or three girls in there. Very clean, much nicer than the "Daily Massage" place I tried near Manson. But the prices are European and they negotiate hard.

Several pages upthread you mentioned Beautiful Agency near the FTM in Ambanidia, I searched around but couldn't locate it. Are they no longer in business? There is a fun restaurant though at the base of the stairs, lots of young people out enjoying themselves, I got a few numbers there for later connections at one of your discreet hotels.

Thanks again for your insights, very much appreciated.

Adrien.

[QUOTE=Adrien69;2497601]Dude,

Your advice was the hookup I needed! I did have an emergency and visited VIP. Wow, the girls were beautiful, I selected a fine young specimen who gave great BBBJ, rode me with great pleasure. The jacuzzi is huge, I probably should have brought two or three girls in there. Very clean, much nicer than the "Daily Massage" place I tried near Manson. But the prices are European and they negotiate hard.

Several pages upthread you mentioned Beautiful Agency near the FTM in Ambanidia, I searched around but couldn't locate it. Are they no longer in business? There is a fun restaurant though at the base of the stairs, lots of young people out enjoying themselves, I got a few numbers there for later connections at one of your discreet hotels.

Thanks again for your insights, very much appreciated.

Adrien.[/QUOTE]Your're welcome. I haven't been in Ambandia for a long time because of the lack of parking place for scooter. Not as clean and luxury rooms but 50% cheaper and the most stunning girls ever and 4 hands massage welcome.

I think the name is Chica Soa now. If you use some famous social media, you may find more information on a group called critiques plans Tana (arnaque) or look for a friend called James West who looks like Jason Statham.

Has anyone seen or tried to use these Facebook groups:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/244068666328719[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1988843748013443[/URL]

The first one Sipa Mila Vola, literally translates as "Young girl needs money", and they are posting advertisements with phone numbers and prices. Not sure what the second one translates as, but looks similar. I am guessing these are all in Tana.

[QUOTE=VavyLover;2501815]Has anyone seen or tried to use these Facebook groups:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/244068666328719[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1988843748013443[/URL]

The first one Sipa Mila Vola, literally translates as "Young girl needs money", and they are posting advertisements with phone numbers and prices. Not sure what the second one translates as, but looks similar. I am guessing these are all in Tana.[/QUOTE]I met some gasy people in Zanzibar. They told me that Tana airport is going to open Dec 1st for international flights. But treat it as an unconfirmed rumor for now. But I see flights in December Kenyan used to have direct NBO TNR flights. Lets pray. The only drawback. Cyclone season is approaching fast.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2501856]I met some gasy people in Zanzibar. They told me that Tana airport is going to open Dec 1st for international flights. But treat it as an unconfirmed rumor for now. But I see flights in December Kenyan used to have direct NBO TNR flights. Lets pray. The only drawback. Cyclone season is approaching fast.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]Not only KenyanAir is showing flights (very expensive 850. - EU rtn from Nairobi), but also EthiopianAir from Addis are showing flights from Dez to Tana. Perhaps there is some truth behind.

In Tana or at the west coast I would not mind the Cyclone season.

[QUOTE=VavyLover;2501815]Has anyone seen or tried to use these Facebook groups:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/244068666328719[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1988843748013443[/URL]

The first one Sipa Mila Vola, literally translates as "Young girl needs money", and they are posting advertisements with phone numbers and prices. Not sure what the second one translates as, but looks similar. I am guessing these are all in Tana.[/QUOTE]I use them sometimes. There are plenty of groups. These groups work only in Tana. In other cities, you need to go hunting in Taxi Be. Use the keyword "plan". A "plan" is a tarifed sexual intercourse. Beware of fake photos, most of the time, if you can see a face on the photo, it's either a fake or a revenge porn. What I usually do is look for interesting profiles in the members and contact them directly.

We have a "customer only" group to help sort girls out:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/368558367124628[/URL]

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2501856]I met some gasy people in Zanzibar. They told me that Tana airport is going to open Dec 1st for international flights. But treat it as an unconfirmed rumor for now. But I see flights in December Kenyan used to have direct NBO TNR flights. Lets pray. The only drawback. Cyclone season is approaching fast.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]There is no information in Antananarivo about a re-opening of the international airport anytime soon. As far as I know, the only remaining flights are going to Nosy Be but I don't know where they are coming from.

I was there two weeks ago, Ambatoroaka was packed with girls and extremely limited number of tourists. I think the flights you see on the internet websites are cargo flights. These are still operating.

Reopening maybe possible very soon and not only Nosy Be.

Until now just plans but sounds good. We will see what happen.

[URL]https://www.madagascar-tribune.com/Air-Austral-va-reprendre-ses-vols-en-decembre.html[/URL]

Since I don't speak French I'm having a difficult time confirming excactly what the restrictions on Madagascar are. I think I am allowed to travel to Nosy Be from Sweden (I can book flight with Air Ethiopia changing flights in Addis Abbeba). It seems to require a negative PCR test no older then 72 hours.

I also have a question about hotels. I have made a preliminary booking at hotel Kokoloko, which looked like a step up from Ambatoloaka, but I would like a confirmation that it is a guest friendly hotel.

Also, I have finally registered a Bitcoinwallet and I just made the membership deposit in support of this great community.

Best wishes from Sweden!

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2507325]Since I don't speak French I'm having a difficult time confirming excactly what the restrictions on Madagascar are. I think I am allowed to travel to Nosy Be from Sweden (I can book flight with Air Ethiopia changing flights in Addis Abbeba). It seems to require a negative PCR test no older then 72 hours.

I also have a question about hotels. I have made a preliminary booking at hotel Kokoloko, which looked like a step up from Ambatoloaka, but I would like a confirmation that it is a guest friendly hotel.

[/QUOTE]The countries from where you are not allowed to board a flight to Nosy Be are:

Allemagne.

Belgique.

Espagne.

France.

Italie.

Pays-Bas.

Pologne.

Royaume-Uni.

Russie.

Ukraine.

Etats-Unis.

Inde.

Brésil.

Maroc.

Argentine.

Iran.

As non-french speaker you will be known to the "chattes" quickly as an easy victim. Its a small place and the pro girls know each other. Try to learn quick at least the basics.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2507325]Since I don't speak French I'm having a difficult time confirming excactly what the restrictions on Madagascar are. I think I am allowed to travel to Nosy Be from Sweden (I can book flight with Air Ethiopia changing flights in Addis Abbeba). It seems to require a negative PCR test no older then 72 hours.

I also have a question about hotels. I have made a preliminary booking at hotel Kokoloko, which looked like a step up from Ambatoloaka, but I would like a confirmation that it is a guest friendly hotel.

Also, I have finally registered a Bitcoinwallet and I just made the membership deposit in support of this great community.

Best wishes from Sweden![/QUOTE]Don't forget to pack your rubber boots and a small inflatable boat. The roads turn to rivers now. There is no such a thing as a non girlfriendly hotel in Madagascar. Except for a missionary hostel. In fact you'll be asked by the concerned receptionist why you do NOT have a bedwarmer for the night.

My suggestion is. Postpone your trip for a year. Learn some french and read about fady.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2507545]Don't forget to pack your rubber boots and a small inflatable boat. The roads turn to rivers now. There is no such a thing as a non girlfriendly hotel in Madagascar. Except for a missionary hostel. In fact you'll be asked by the concerned receptionist why you do NOT have a bedwarmer for the night.

My suggestion is. Postpone your trip for a year. Learn some french and read about fady.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]Thank you for answering Neddy!

This trip is to celebrate my 50th birthday and I have been planning to go outside of SE Asia and Europe, where I usually travel. I have been pretty much locked up in my apartment, working from home, since the start of the Covid outbreak. Since Nosy Be is one of the few places where I can travel without restrictions (that's not cold, doesn't require 3+ changes of planes and has cheap and easily accessible p*ssy) I will go over the Christmas "break". I have solid finances and I could easily afford a handful of mongering trips each year. My only real issue is getting time off work.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2507625]Since Nosy Be is one of the few places where I can travel without restrictions (that's not cold, doesn't require 3+ changes of planes and has cheap and easily accessible p*ssy) I will go over the Christmas "break".[/QUOTE]The best place to be right now is Brazil. The exchange rate has created the most value in decades: for hotels, restaurants, girls, for everything it's beyond so cheap. Weather in Rio absolutely glorious at the moment. It takes one plane ride to arrive from most major places and unlike Nosy Be, you're not stuck on one little island. There are no restrictions and it feels much more laid back than the USA in terms of covid. At 90 days visa free, I could easily spend the entire winter here.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2507658]The best place to be right now is Brazil. The exchange rate has created the most value in decades: for hotels, restaurants, girls, for everything it's beyond so cheap. Weather in Rio absolutely glorious at the moment. It takes one plane ride to arrive from most major places and unlike Nosy Be, you're not stuck on one little island. There are no restrictions and it feels much more laid back than the USA in terms of covid. At 90 days visa free, I could easily spend the entire winter here.[/QUOTE]Rio is super expensive and Corona is everyware.

Girls? Not sure about it. I was last year.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2507658]The best place to be right now is Brazil. The exchange rate has created the most value in decades: for hotels, restaurants, girls, for everything it's beyond so cheap. Weather in Rio absolutely glorious at the moment. It takes one plane ride to arrive from most major places and unlike Nosy Be, you're not stuck on one little island. There are no restrictions and it feels much more laid back than the USA in terms of covid. At 90 days visa free, I could easily spend the entire winter here.[/QUOTE]I follow a couple of Youtubers from South East Asia and some of them like Mexico now. [URL]https://youtu.be/u80_V-1-GFw[/URL].

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2507658]The best place to be right now is Brazil. The exchange rate has created the most value in decades: for hotels, restaurants, girls, for everything it's beyond so cheap. Weather in Rio absolutely glorious at the moment. It takes one plane ride to arrive from most major places and unlike Nosy Be, you're not stuck on one little island. There are no restrictions and it feels much more laid back than the USA in terms of covid. At 90 days visa free, I could easily spend the entire winter here.[/QUOTE]Wow sounds like a place Neddy would approve of haha. Does that apply to Rio and SP or just the second-tier cities and beyond? Have you ever ventured south into the predominantly white cities? How is the scene there if so?

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2507997]Wow sounds like a place Neddy would approve of haha. Does that apply to Rio and SP or just the second-tier cities and beyond? Have you ever ventured south into the predominantly white cities? How is the scene there if so?[/QUOTE]Been in SP for over 2 months now. Seldom had it so good in terms of sex, food, accommodation and mobility. Would extend my 3 months here if I could. Hell, I would settle here without looking back if they had a tax-free package for foreign pensioners like Peru and Chile have.

I think Rio would still rate as a predominantly white city, far less black skin there than in the streets of say Paris, London or Brussels. Brazil = big white nation except on carnival footage. Look at Brazil's national soccer team, how many blacks do you see? Look at France's. The Brazil soccer team pic below is about as "black" as it can get in a clinica line-up in SP, don't know about Rio. Note that the best asses I've seen in Brazil were often on caucasian type girls.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2507658]The best place to be right now is Brazil. The exchange rate has created the most value in decades: for hotels, restaurants, girls, for everything it's beyond so cheap. Weather in Rio absolutely glorious at the moment. It takes one plane ride to arrive from most major places and unlike Nosy Be, you're not stuck on one little island. There are no restrictions and it feels much more laid back than the USA in terms of covid. At 90 days visa free, I could easily spend the entire winter here.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your input.

My trip is kinda short and I don't want to travel around a lot in any country during Covid, I think a smaller place is better this time. When I do go to Brazil I want to stay for at least three weeks and travel around a bit.

I have booked flight and hotel in Nosy be for Christmas and New Years week and I'm sure I'll have a good time. Bad weather only means more time to spend in room with girls.

Having re-read all forum posts on Mada from this year (I have read everything from 2018 and onwards earlier) there are only a few things I wonder about.

It seems there are conflicting information about withdrawing cash in ATMs. I have three Mastercards, two debit and one credit, and one Visa credit card. The cards are from three different providers and hopefully at least one should work (I can transfer money between if necessary).

I also got the impression that having some €uros would be a good idea. I'm thinking about bringing 500€ in 10€ notes for easy transactions and having a cash "reserve" if the need arises.

When it comes to communication it seems like using direct translation on phone should be sufficient to make deals with the working girls, which is good enough for me.

I'd appreciate any advice on picking up (working) girls apart from the hardcore crew from Taxi Be. Like many others I prefer slim girls in their 20's.

Going rate for short time seems to be 20-30k and overnight / long time rate 40-50k?

Lastly if anyone would let me know what "rimjob" is called in Malagasy and French I would be eternally grateful.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2508220]

Lastly if anyone would let me know what "rimjob" is called in Malagasy and French I would be eternally grateful.[/QUOTE]Hahah-- the girls are not grown up in a bible belt. Learn french. And in addition a few words of Malgache and you will be surprised what les coucou's will teach you! They know more then you ever thought of.

With english only: don't go there except you are ready to get taken for a ride from everyone in the negative sense.

All major places have a ATM. Accepting debit and credit cards. I was in the rather small Manakara the had several to. I did not bother about the commission since it was my cheapest fun vacation anyway. I would propose, stay away from large amount of cash for security reasons. Store the cards in different places. Most of the girls try to serve you in all manners without asking for to make you happy.

I missed it. As we all!

Black ink.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2508220]It seems there are conflicting information about withdrawing cash in ATMs. I also got the impression that having some uros would be a good idea. I'm thinking about bringing 500 in 10 notes for easy transactions and having a cash "reserve" if the need arises.
I'd appreciate any advice on picking up (working) girls apart from the hardcore crew from Taxi Be. Like many others I prefer slim girls in their 20's. Going rate for short time seems to be 20-30k and overnight / long time rate 40-50k?
Lastly if anyone would let me know what "rimjob" .[/QUOTE]Change euros into Malagasy ariary immediately as that's all your solid finances you'll be using. Unless you're staying at a French hotel where the proprietor insists on Euros only, they're not needed.

With your non-hardcore girlfriends at home, how do you get them to give you your rimjobs? Women are the same the world over. Malagasy girls may be impoverished, sometimes to the point of desperation, but they are human beings with self-respect and it is a conservative culture so if you come with expectations of being able to exploit them to you heart's content you may end up being disappointed in your little fun holiday despite your solid finances.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2508465]Hahah-- the girls are not grown up in a bible belt. Learn french. And in addition a few words of Malgache and you will be surprised what les coucou's will teach you! They know more then you ever thought of.

With english only: don't go there except you are ready to get taken for a ride from everyone in the negative sense.[/QUOTE]"Learn French" is very useful advise two weeks before a trip.

If you only reply to put me down and be rude, please don't bother next time.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2508538]"Learn French" is very useful advise two weeks before a trip.

If you only reply to put me down and be rude, please don't bother next time.[/QUOTE]My suggestion was not about the language. But not to travel there. As many other collegues as well saying you will be disappointed. Perhaps consider Sosua. It may fit better.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2508572]My suggestion was not about the language. But not to travel there. As many other collegues as well saying you will be disappointed. Perhaps consider Sosua. It may fit better.[/QUOTE]If I misunderstood your remarks I apologize. Since I already have booked and paid for my trip so advice about not going is moot. I have been to Domican Republic several times and I don't really feel like going there again anytime soon.

I'm not very hard to please for this vacation. Most of my time will probably be spent relaxing on the beach if the weather allows, if not I'm fine just lounging around in a bar. I will bring some books and my new headphones.

At Golfinho.

Well, when I'm with regular women I kinda go with the flow and ask if I feel it's appropriate, which I think is common practice (though the questions of course will wary). Online pickup / dating can sometimes be different though.

With pros I often want things to be decided up front. It's not uncommon for me to pick a less attractive girl because she offers services that the more attractive ones don't.

At Tinte.

Thanks for the info!

Hi all,

I read all posts going back to about 2 years, what is hard job LOL, but I like to do it because I want to go to mada as soon as possible, more precisely when the vaccine is available.

I am from Austria and have been traveling to Asia for decades. And yes I know mada is not comparable (BTW. Am India tested) , but I'm interested in fauna, flora and people, as well as to the girl clearly.

Speaking of girls, are these nice blue pills and gels (kamagra) also available in mada?

Thanks, Mudra.

I always bring my own stash but in Toliara I saw a chemist selling generic Viagra. They did not sell Cialis.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2508999]I always bring my own stash but in Toliara I saw a chemist selling generic Viagra. They did not sell Cialis.[/QUOTE]Thanks tailpipe, maybe in tana, I'll see.

Haven't contributed much lately, so thought I would comment on a few posts.

Generic Cialis. Tadalafil. I think the brand name is Tadifil or something like that. It is available in almost all pharmacies in the cities. Definitely in Tana, and Nosy Be also. And dirt cheap, four 20 MG pills for a few dollars, I think AR 10,000-20,000, but don't recall for sure. I usually stock up when I arrive and cut the pills in half.

ATMs also in every major town. I haven't carried cash or exchanged cash in many years. First day hit an ATM, you can typically take out AR 800,000 in one withdraw now (AR 20,000 bills) and also withdraw as many times as you can up to your bank's limit. I did have a problem with that at one point though with one of the banks, only allowed one withdrawal, but that was the exception. I have both MC and VISA debit cards and one or both work at most / all banks.

Rimjobs. In the hundred+ girls I have enjoyed over 15 years, I have had rimjobs from only a handful of them. It is definitely a special treat. The street prostitutes won't hesitate. I have had a few ally way blowjobs in Tana with two girls, one sucking my cock, the other spreading my cheeks. But some of the sweet girlfriend types will surprise you. My most recent honey from Nosy Be is a girl I saw repeatedly for about 2 or 3 years now, 18 yo when I met her on the beach, not a disco makirely (working girl), but the real thing. Had few skills when I met her, hardly knew had to give a BJ, but gorgeous and sweet so became my copine (girlfriend). Each trip I returned for she was a little more experienced. Wetter BJs, eventually serious DT and gagging. It was amazing to watch her improve with the more experience she gained. One trip, she is giving me a BJ, and suddenly lifts my legs up and dives in with some serious deep rimming. I was stunned, and she giggled like a school girl when she was done. Some other guy was teaching her well apparently, and I was all the more happy for it. But I have also had some hardcore girls, disco makirely types, that definitely would not go there. So it varies hugely.

Something I call the Triple Crown. CIM, Anal and Rim. Have only had 1 girl win that prize.

Oh, and my French and Malagasy are terrible, but with a few words you can get along. I spoke nothing but English in the beginning and the most rudimentary french, a handful of words. Yeah, you might get ripped off once in a while, but not a catastrophe. I wouldn't let that stop you, but you probably should stick to the beaten path, places like Tana, Toliara, Nosy Be.

Been over a year now and I am yearning to go.

Stay safe. VL.

[QUOTE=VavyLover;2509453]Haven't contributed much lately, so thought I would comment on a few posts.

Generic Cialis. Tadalafil. I think the brand name is Tadifil or something like that. It is available in almost all pharmacies in the cities. Definitely in Tana, and Nosy Be also. And dirt cheap, four 20 MG pills for a few dollars, I think AR 10,000-20,000, but don't recall for sure. I usually stock up when I arrive and cut the pills in half.

ATMs also in every major town. I haven't carried cash or exchanged cash in many years. First day hit an ATM, you can typically take out AR 800,000 in one withdraw now (AR 20,000 bills) and also withdraw as many times as you can up to your bank's limit. I did have a problem with that at one point though with one of the banks, only allowed one withdrawal, but that was the exception. I have both MC and VISA debit cards and one or both work at most / all banks.

Rimjobs. In the hundred+ girls I have enjoyed over 15 years, I have had rimjobs from only a handful of them. It is definitely a special treat. The street prostitutes won't hesitate. I have had a few ally way blowjobs in Tana with two girls, one sucking my cock, the other spreading my cheeks. But some of the sweet girlfriend types will surprise you..[/QUOTE]Thank you for a very informative and helpful post!

[QUOTE=VavyLover;2509453]Haven't contributed much lately, so thought I would comment on a few posts.

Generic Cialis. Tadalafil. I think the brand name is Tadifil or something like that. It is available in almost all pharmacies in the cities. Definitely in Tana, and Nosy Be also. And dirt cheap, four 20 MG pills for a few dollars, I think AR 10,000-20,000, but don't recall for sure. I usually stock up when I arrive and cut the pills in half.

ATMs also in every major town. I haven't carried cash or exchanged cash in many years. First day hit an ATM, you can typically take out AR 800,000 in one withdraw now (AR 20,000 bills) and also withdraw as many times as you can up to your bank's limit. I did have a problem with that at one point though with one of the banks, only allowed one withdrawal, but that was the exception. I have both MC and VISA debit cards and one or both work at most / all banks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your contribution. Never tried tadalafil, sildafenil only. Good to hear to get it there.

I have also both cards, how ist it with maestro debit card?

Mudra.

[QUOTE=Mudrakarma;2509842]

I have also both cards, how ist it with maestro debit card?

[/QUOTE]I have never used one, maybe someone else can comment?

VL.

Mastercard, just in case.

Hey Vavy,

Just wondering how many (and which) banks you were able to withdraw 800 k from. I was there as well just over a year ago (October) and none that I tried would give me more than 400 k.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2510173]Hey Vavy,

Just wondering how many (and which) banks you were able to withdraw 800 k from. I was there as well just over a year ago (October) and none that I tried would give me more than 400 k.[/QUOTE]BFV-gives 800 k no problem.

I can not remember the limits and the banks I used. But 400 000 k is quite a sum in Mada, with some back up. Prior to my next trip I will ask my bank about the withdraw fees credit / debit. In the past I was told to use the debit card. Perhaps fees have changed. Easy cash withdrawals is a service I am willig to pay a faire price anyway. In hotels they like cash, the credit card fee goes on top of the bill next to taxes. But they accepted black under the table as well.

Black Ink. Tinte.

Room maid.

The rumor must have certainly spread in this middle class hotel, a single vahaza is her to stay! After my morning walk I came back to my room wich was already made. Across my room door I saw the pretty maid at her work. She looked at me and I asked if the room is made? She agreed and I asked her if she is sure. " mais oui! " But I will chek again. So she came in and I asked if I should shut the door, she said jess and she will have a final look at the bed, leaning over it with her bottom up towards me. Uups. What I supposed to do now? What this could go into? She then said something like I will pay my hotel bill so I am her boss and she would do all all to my satisfaction. If that is no offer. Anyway, I resisted since I had a good night bevor and this could become easily complicated I guessed. She left and my door was open again, so I watched her finishing the room across. In the end she waved me, walked pass my room door and kissed my goodbye! Guess the face I made, I stud up and the followed her perhaps snatch her. Quick as she was, she stud already downstairs. Embracing her boyfriend, giving him a kiss.

Tinte / black ink.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2510309]BFV-gives 800 k no problem.[/QUOTE]Yep. I have pulled 800 k at BFV Nosy Be and Toliara, and MCB in Tana. I think BoA might limit to 400 k. I have incurred standard ATM fees for using a debit card ($1. 50 at BFV to $3. 75 at MCB), and for a credit card it is 1% of the withdrawal.

If you need to draw very large amounts, up to AR 10 million I think, you can go into the bank (BFV) and use your debit card. The wait is short because there is a specific service with few people that use it, you just have to choose the correct ticket category. I did notice in late 2019 that when I did this my bank fee was 1% the withdrawal, like a credit card, even though I used my debit card.

VL.

From what I recall the only bank that was charging a withdrawal fee was BoA back in Oct 2019. Are these fees you mention at the ATM or the fee your home bank is charging? By the amounts whether euros or dollars it looks like the latter. In any case good to see 800 k widely available now.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2510157]Mastercard, just in case.[/QUOTE]Thanks, so I'll be fine with debit plus card.

Mudra.

Which rural area off the beaten track do you recommend, where you can meet normal (non-professional) girls? And which areas are not?

At this hotel they did not have much to do, so I got easy in conversation with the two young Ladys. Both around 20 and quite pretty. Classy food was a general problem in this town , but one morning a french guy told me about a top restaurant a bit out of town. When I came back to the hotel one girl was still working so asked her if she wanted to join for lunch. She agreed strait away and we made a appointment at my room. I went to my room had a shower and a nap and later at the appointed time it nocked at the door.

All over I got the feeling the wibes. What ever you want call it for the situations like that in Mada. Or just I thougth so.

I was awaiting her just in underpants, took her in and made a comment of our different wearing. So I rather quick changed it to the same styl. She did not refused. Thought I am not just inviting her, pay the bill and she will walk of. No no like that!

I just took her just as I would have done it many times bevor with her, I did not go into experimental things but is was quite enjoyably.

After all we took a shower dressed up and went for a superbe lunch at the recommended beach restaurant. I got the all over impression that she and the girls in general are quite of well manner, so I treated them like that. But when we had lunch at the table the girl said she has to go for a pee and does not know the way. She just stud up, opend her pants and did the pee some three meters away from the table in the sand. Quelle belle vue !!

As we got home she just was at the time to start her work again wich was fine to me. Minutes later the real fier cracker arrived, a semi pro with no limits looking and going for it without me asking for.

Tinte / black ink.

No money was given, just a fine lunche at the best restaurant was paid on a marvels sandy beach. I had a companion exrtaordiaire for a few hours.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2510422]Room maid.

The rumor must have certainly spread in this middle class hotel, a single vahaza is her to stay! After my morning walk I came back to my room wich was already made. Across my room door I saw the pretty maid at her work. She looked at me and I asked if the room is made? She agreed and I asked her if she is sure. " mais oui! " But I will chek again. So she came in and I asked if I should shut the door, she said jess and she will have a final look at the bed, leaning over it with her bottom up towards me. Uups. What I supposed to do now? What this could go into? She then said something like I will pay my hotel bill so I am her boss and she would do all all to my satisfaction. If that is no offer. Anyway, I resisted since I had a good night bevor and this could become easily complicated I guessed. She left and my door was open again, so I watched her finishing the room across. In the end she waved me, walked pass my room door and kissed my goodbye! Guess the face I made, I stud up and the followed her perhaps snatch her. Quick as she was, she stud already downstairs. Embracing her boyfriend, giving him a kiss.

Tinte / black ink.[/QUOTE]I only have one experience in Africa sofar (but a lot in Asia) and I am under the impression after my first stay that any girl is up for something if the offer is good enough. As I got offer by my room maid in Tanzania too. Especially if you speak their language and are charming it should be easy.

I have spend some time in Asia in various hotels, various countries, never had something with a room maid. I guess the girls are either in or not in the game, not interested at all or wanted to get married and not laid in a minute. On the other hand there are lot of pros wich are easy to recognize and we go for them. Approaching any girls on the road easy goes into a disaster.

Africa is different to me. After all, any girl wich responses to a smile is approachable and eventually doable. Well off girls in solid hands just do not respond at all, not even respond to a Hello, wich in my culture is just not polite. There it is just a self-protection I guess. To me it needs always some days for acclimation.

Tinte / black ink.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2511338]I have spend some time in Asia in various hotels, various countries, never had something with a room maid. I guess the girls are either in or not in the game, not interested at all or wanted to get married and not laid in a minute. On the other hand there are lot of pros wich are easy to recognize and we go for them. Approaching any girls on the road easy goes into a disaster.

Africa is different to me. After all, any girl wich responses to a smile is approachable and eventually doable. Well off girls in solid hands just do not respond at all, not even respond to a Hello, wich in my culture is just not polite. There it is just a self-protection I guess. To me it needs always some days for acclimation.

Tinte / black ink.[/QUOTE]In some countries in Asia I have been offered extra services by maids as well. In Thailand because I speak Thai and can make jokes in Thai so I can pick up most girls I like from stores, restaurants etc. Girls on higher pay scales are more difficult of course, but still possible. I am not young and handsome. I am now learning Swahili from my girl in Tanzania so I can try and see what I can reach there as well, although she is an absolute gem in my eyes she ticks all the boxes of what I am looking for in life, literally the 1st girl that ticked all boxes in my life I had never expected to find her in Africa.

But I am very upbeat on the possibilities once you speak local languages. In Asia an old trick of mine is literally show the money. Once I have some attention from a waitress I will accidentally pull out to much money when paying and once I see the greed in her eyes I will say something like. How much do you get paid here? And it will go very quickly to let's meet later. My guess is something similar would work on "normal" girls in Africa too. Especially if you speak Malagasy a bit or Swahili or whatever. And of course joke a lot. People always like it when you make them laugh.

After some weeks in Mada, well acclimated I got to my last hotel to stay in bevor some days later do depart. I can not remember when I first used the term " fleur de Banane " . I well remember when I said it to a dark-skinned french lady in her 60 . She found it as a great compliment, she may got aroused by it. Not so me.

Anyway, at the last reception there was this hot spinner thing and I said to her: "Bonjour Mon. Fleure de Banane" . She and her College started to giggle and I thought, there you go again.

After the booking done, I said it to her again followed by the question about when will we see again.

She then replied something like not again that fleure de Banane or otherwise she will " affiffiche vous !"

I did not understand "affifficher" , but her face told me something.

Affifficher means something like. To bring it to court, police. Uups.

Tinte / black ink.

Care to tell us English speakers what banana flower means outside of the literal sense? Can't think of anything off the top of my head.

Affificher means nothing. Don't pretend to speak French if you don't.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2511383]Anyway, at the last reception there was this hot spinner thing and I said to her: "Bonjour Mon. Fleure de Banane" . She and her College started to giggle and I thought, there you go again.
[/QUOTE]No wonder she giggles there are 2 mistakes in the same sentence.

La Fleure de Banane.

The literal sense is what You put into it, my English rose. I guess, as simpel as that.

The Banana part was highly welcomed after all by the lady in her 60 . Next time I will try it at LE Glacier.

Tinte / black ink.

In French, fleur de banane is banana flower, nothing more.

Maybe in Mada they have their own meaning, I don't know.

But you are in tana now?

Don`t pay the ferryman until.....

One day I got approached by a toure guide, prive. He offerd a morning on a pirogue on the canal.

Prise and time, location was fixed for next morning. He arrived on time with hes crew of two paddlers. Off we went. Very scenic indeed.

At one point there were two girls having a bath in the canal, just like out of a painting. Very dark skinned long curly hair, Indonesian style. The captain cave order to get close and he was talking in malgash with them. They did not responded enthusiastic at al.

Off we went and after a wile on a small dock two girls again spending her times. Same approach again. What the heck that is?

6 of us we were now on a morning tour. The girls were quite reserved but I did my best to entertain the hole boat. Was kind of a ridge walk.

Eventually the tour came to a end, I paid the fixed price. But he obviously wanted more kind of pointing to the girls. But I denied.

The girls and me, I invited the to a soda. The were very calm, not very entertaining etc. I had to take the lead.

I went for it! I wanted to know it.

Just said something like lets go home, so we did. Went into the Bungalow, took a well soapy shower together. The were not working on it together. But I did the both.

Gave them some cash and off they went.

Next time I will give the ferryman some tip.

Tinte / black ink.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2510511]From what I recall the only bank that was charging a withdrawal fee was BoA back in Oct 2019. Are these fees you mention at the ATM or the fee your home bank is charging? By the amounts whether euros or dollars it looks like the latter. In any case good to see 800 k widely available now.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think that is right SE, fees are from my bank. And they increased in 2019. Actually for years I go no fee on my debit, only the CC, and now they charge a fee on the debit. It did vary by Malagasy bank though, which is odd.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2511531]Affificher means nothing. Don't pretend to speak French if you don't.[/QUOTE]Read properly! 2 times double ff affifficher. Translater and you will get it.

As I said I did not know it at the time. Now I do and will not forget. Yes my french needs urgently improvement in Mada .
Next to my English - but you should bee able to follow - sorry .

Tinte / Black ink.

Affifficher , Display / afficher , the verb, bring it to display

Thats what my translator says.

Anyway the god thing with my french in Mada, some of them speak just as poorly. That makes it easy, not terrifying to either side.

Well definitely some Malagasy speak perfect French.

Tinte / Black ink.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2511755]Well definitely some Malagasy speak perfect French.

Tinte / Black ink.[/QUOTE]That's a funny one. Again it s afficher not affifficher. Must have been a stuttering girl I guess.

Affifficher does not exist in French. It's as simple as that. What the girl wanted to say and what the punter heard and understood are things that we won't know.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2511755]Affifficher , Display / afficher , the verb, bring it to display

Thats what my translator says.

Anyway the god thing with my french in Mada, some of them speak just as poorly. That makes it easy, not terrifying to either side.

Well definitely some Malagasy speak perfect French.

Tinte / Black ink.[/QUOTE]Malagasy who went in higher education will speak French fluently as after primary school education is in French.

I felt easygoing even wich my limited french skills made it even more adventures. Brought my self a little pocket booklet dictionary. Just in case, wich I never needed. My different skills were fast on level to get what I wanted to bring across .

Tinte / Black ink.

[QUOTE=Manfield04;2512093]Affifficher does not exist in French. It's as simple as that. What the girl wanted to say and what the punter heard and understood are things that we won't know.[/QUOTE]I think the word "afficher" is the one for which he was searching. Meaning to post, or it can mean to stick up as in sticking a poster on a wall.

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2512199]I think the word "afficher" is the one for which he was searching. Meaning to post, or it can mean to stick up as in sticking a poster on a wall.

GE.[/QUOTE]Yes affifficher doesn't exist in French, so it should be afficher the right one.

But there is also a special meaning when you say afficher someone, which can mean saying that the person is a bit dumb and you show that to everybody.

That meaning cannot be found in dictionary.

But in Mada they could also have invented new meanings which I don't know.

Afficher.

She would " afficher vous " for that repeating of " fleure de banane " . Stick me up the wall somewhere but not in her bedroom. The face she made to it said it all. No language barrier there.

Take it easy! As sonn as this pandemic is over I will try that approach again in Mada. I guess next to the literal sense, by different reactions, the meaning it got quite clear.

Thanks to the lady in her 60 .

Tinte / Black ink.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2512228]Afficher.

She would " afficher vous " for that repeating of " fleure de banane " . Stick me up the wall somewhere but not in her bedroom. The face she made to it said it all. No language barrier there.

Take it easy! As sonn as this pandemic is over I will try that approach again in Mada. I guess next to the literal sense, by different reactions, the meaning it got quite clear.

Thanks to the lady in her 60 .

Tinte / Black ink.[/QUOTE]Afficher vous. There's a similar saying in english. Stick it up your a. Hahaha. I bet that means the same en francais.

Dirty french.

La Buse.

The meaning in standard French is "to show oneself publicly (with someone etc.)". Here she could have meant she wanted the man to state clearly what he meant or intended. Provided of course those were her very words (not always certain when listening comprehension in a foreign language is concerned).

Some of you guys are ever so charming. Thanks.

Tinte / Black ink.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2512283]Some of you guys are ever so charming. Thanks.

Tinte / Black ink.[/QUOTE]Are you in mada now sir?

No! Why?

Been there last year, enjoyed it very much and miss it like some others do. Will go, when it will bee open again.

Tinte / Black Ink.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2512423] Will go, when it will bee open again.[/QUOTE]Me too, unfortunately it still takes. But the planning is in place, Lonely Planet and other inputs like the ISG are in front of me at the table.

Think September / October 21 should be realistic.

[QUOTE=Mudrakarma;2512432]Me too, unfortunately it still takes. But the planning is in place, Lonely Planet and other inputs like the ISG are in front of me at the table.

Think September / October 21 should be realistic.[/QUOTE]Oh boy, I do hope Sept / Oct is overly pessimistic my friend. I am hoping for closer to April / May / June. And then we will all end up there at the same time, like a damn bursting, and be competing for all the desperate ampella soa that miss us all so much. LOL.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2512423]No! Why?

Been there last year, enjoyed it very much and miss it like some others do. Will go, when it will bee open again.

Tinte / Black Ink.[/QUOTE]I thought you were posting current info, but as I look at your time stamps, we were both there about the same time this year (right before covid). I am expected to be inoculated within a few weeks so I am hoping to return once Invato opens.

The Mada normality one year ago was just fine to me.

If one can handle the Desperation why not. Not my thing as the criminals etc. Will bee desperat too I think. We will see.

Tinte / Black ink.

Business-wise I got weeks ago in touch with a guy, who is married with a Malagasy for years with kids. Hes in his 70 () !

Has a house in Nosy. Apparently I got the information that he took one of the few available seats on a plane and is now in Nosy.

I have not been to Nosy, as I thought its quite to commercial for my taste, but with that in mind I will perhaps do as he has rooms in his house to rent.

Tinte / Black ink.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2512600]Business-wise I got weeks ago in touch with a guy, who is married with a Malagasy for years with kids. Hes in his 70 () !

Has a house in Nosy. Apparently I got the information that he took one of the few available seats on a plane and is now in Nosy.

I have not been to Nosy, as I thought its quite to commercial for my taste, but with that in mind I will perhaps do as he has rooms in his house to rent.

Tinte / Black ink.[/QUOTE]Interesting! Let us know if that guy's place is worth when you stay there. I would like to spend some time in NB once M opens up again but I am really scared of...malaria! And apparently malaria is everywhere in Madagascar's low lands. Thanks Tinte.

[QUOTE=Tavares;2512663]... but I am really scared of...malaria! And apparently malaria is everywhere in Madagascar's low lands. Thanks Tinte.[/QUOTE]Not only Malaria, which you definitly catch. Add on Dengue fever where there is no treatment. Plus the Bubonic plague pops up again and again and if you eat salad you can be assured to catch Dysentery. And as Tinte. The experienced vistor. Is afraid of: all the criminals on the road will find you as vahaza. Rest assured.

Stay back home. Leave that rotten island to "les legionnaires. ".

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2512700]Not only Malaria, which you definitly catch. Add on Dengue fever where there is no treatment. Plus the Bubonic plague pops up again and again and if you eat salad you can be assured to catch Dysentery. And as Tinte. The experienced vistor. Is afraid of: all the criminals on the road will find you as vahaza. Rest assured.

Stay back home. Leave that rotten island to "les legionnaires..[/QUOTE]I will add a small detail, bubonic plague kills you after several days, so you can have some time to reach a good medical place for treatment, but there is also in mada the pneumonic plague.

This one kills you in 24 to 72 hours, si knowing the difficulty to travel inside mada, it's a bit more difficult to stay alive.

Nice country.

Thats for us not a real Problem. Just take the Medicine. Cure with you. 20 bucks. In case you get the symptoms. Friend of mine hat it 4 times.

Jes, I got the shits, diarrhea. Because of a sandwich in LE glacier on my last day. I lost 5 Kilos: just perfect!!

Yes, there is this and that, but I had the weeks holidays of my life so far and could not complain bevor.

Tinte / black ink.

[QUOTE=VavyLover;2512510]Oh boy, I do hope Sept / Oct is overly pessimistic my friend. I am hoping for closer to April / May / June. And then we will all end up there at the same time, like a damn bursting, and be competing for all the desperate ampella soa that miss us all so much. LOL.[/QUOTE]Your word in my ear! April / May / June is pretty optimistic, do you think that mada will be up so quickly given the European situation?

I mean, NB would not be enough to go to mada, the whole country has to be open to me.

Mudra.

[QUOTE=VavyLover;2512510] I am hoping for closer to April / May / June.[/QUOTE]If you get the Moderna's / Pfizer's which already being rolled out you get to any country and travel free white the certificate with no Testing.

So the actual traveling date is depend of own your country rolling vacassine progress.

[QUOTE=Mudrakarma;2512759]Your word in my ear! April / May / June is pretty optimistic, do you think that mada will be up so quickly given the European situation?

I mean, NB would not be enough to go to mada, the whole country has to be open to me.

Mudra.[/QUOTE]Considering that 40% of Malagasy people had covid already it shouldn't be long until they have collective immunity.

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[QUOTE=NmExpert;2512817]If you get the Moderna's / Pfizer's which already being rolled out you get to any country and travel free white the certificate with no Testing.

So the actual traveling date is depend of own your country rolling vacassine progress.[/QUOTE]Firstly you need two vaccinations; second is the rollout still poor, third, while not clear whether you can be contagious, despite vaccination, it will be difficult.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2512927]Considering that 40% of Malagasy people had covid already it shouldn't be long until they have collective immunity.[/QUOTE]You need about 70% for herd immunity and if you want to achieve that the rest is dead.

Forget that, you can only reach it with the vaccine but unfortunately mada does not have this priority as do other African countries.

The north is buying up the market, China will probably serve this market with even more influence in the region. Sad!

Mudra.

No question when the border is open and the first tourists will go in again, there will bee a huge desperat market awaiting cash. Paradiese?

One will bee faced with all sorts of new post corona situation, infrastructure. Besides especially the people mind. What will tose think of you wiche you are not trading with? Despite your health certificate? For some you might bee just a health threat.

Looking forward for the April post here. Good news I hope!

Tinte / Black ink.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2513184]No question when the border is open and the first tourists will go in again, there will bee a huge desperat market awaiting cash. Paradiese?

One will bee faced with all sorts of new post corona situation, infrastructure. Besides especially the people mind. What will tose think of you wiche you are not trading with? Despite your health certificate? For some you might bee just a health threat.

Looking forward for the April post here. Good news I hope!

Tinte / Black ink.[/QUOTE]Anybody there for situation updates?

Mudra.

Saw a video today, very reliable.

It was said that Mada is going a good way back to normal. All across the country there were not abnormal numbers of funerals observed. In a country were it is a big thing. The fast majority being rather jung, the society did not get hit hard.

According to scientists it was also said that 40 % had it. Domestic flights slowly on the increase, travel-restrictions on mainland get lifted.

Masks are still mandatory but almost nobody wears them anymore.

Sounds promising!

Tinte / Black Ink.

Yesterday afternoon I arrived to Nosy Be. It has been a mixed bag, but I am enjoying my vacation so far.

It felt like it took forever to get out of the airport:

- Show proof of negative PCR-test on steps from aircraft.

- Disinfection station, where you get sprayed by something inside a special made cubicle.

- Passport control.

- Visa on arrival, costs 35€ and you must have cash.

- Queue to pay for PCR Covid test.

- Wait in line to take PCR Covid test.

And filling out what seems to be a gazillion different forms (or virtually identical) for each of the above. As well as being shouted at by border police for not having written down phone number to hotel on the side of a paper which says nothing about phone number.

The above things overall where manageable. Luckily I had exactly €35 in cash with me (left over from a trip to Germany). Not sure what would have happened if I was without cash. There is no way to get cash at the airport. This lead to some serious problems when I needed to pay 100 k Airary for the Covid test. A very helpful, English speaking, security guard promptly found me a taxi driver who fronted me the 100 k. At this time the lines where very very long for both paying for the test and getting tested. Luckily my friendly security guard promptly brought me to the front of the lines. As "reward" I gave him the only cash I had on me, a Swedish 200 bill (just under €20) which I hope he can convert for his troubles.

When I arrived at the hotel they tried to pull a fast one on me. I got a room with no sea view and no TV, even though those things where clearly stated on by booking. Fortunately I had print outs (in French and English) of my booking and they gave me another room which is up to the specifications. One annoying thing is that the safe has a key not a code, which means I have to find a safe place to hide the key when I have a girl in my room overnight. Breakfast is supposed to be included, but since the hotel doesn't have a restaurant I'm not sure how they will arrange that.

As a mixed blessing there was an English speaking local guy sitting outside the hotel when I arrived. This guide has helped me with some stuff, including finder a spinner with an average looking friend for company. He's been asking a bit much for his services though.

And now for what everyone has been waiting for. The girls. My guide asked me what kind of girls I like. I told him "slim, firm tits, NOT a big ass". Shortly after he had produced a 20-25 year old spinner named Vanessa (I hope it's ok to put first name here, since there are no pics and I'm guessing she's not the only one in Nosy calling herself Vanessa). She had with her an average looking friend. I promptly brought them to my room for some fun Vanessa has a killer body and was very enthusiastic with a decent BBBJ, some tentative rimming. Ass only available for fingering, but I'm working on that. Her friend was disinterested with semi-sagging tits and a wide booty, not at all to my liking. Sadly none of the girls speak any English.

After my tumble with the girls we went out drinking together with the guide. Vanessa was really affectionate and smiling. I called it an early night (before 10) a brought Vanessa back to my room for the night. Her pouty, boring, average-looking friend I left behind. Today we slept in and at the moment Vanessa is away at the hair dresser. It seems it can be a good girlfriend experience for me, if I choose to keep her around.

I have not yet attained my Malagasy SIM. But when I have that I will get the contact information from my guide. If anyone wants to know how to contact him, send me a PM and I'll provide the information.

Advice and pointers:

Bring cash.

- At airport you have to pay for Visa (€35) and Covid PCR test (100 k Airary). And there is NO way to get cash at airport.

ATM: s in Ambatoaloka.

- ATM next to big pharmacy does not accept MasterCard, only VISA.

- ATM across from Ambatoaloka hotel accepts both cards.

And finally I am really annoyed that my new Chromebook doesn't have a delete key, I have to press alt+backspace for delete. Not as horrible as Lenovo moving the ctrl-button, but still extremely annoying.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2513504]Yesterday afternoon I arrived to Nosy Be. It has been a mixed bag, but I am enjoying my vacation so far.

It felt like it took forever to get out of the airport:

- Show proof of negative PCR-test on steps from aircraft.

- Disinfection station, where you get sprayed by something inside a special made cubicle.

- Passport control.

- Visa on arrival, costs 35 and you must have cash.

- Queue to pay for PCR Covid test.

- Wait in line to take PCR Covid test.

And filling out what seems to be a gazillion different forms (or virtually identical) for each of the above. As well as being shouted at by border police for not having written down phone number to hotel on the side of a paper which says nothing about phone number.

The above things overall where manageable. Luckily I had exactly 35 in cash with me (left over from a trip to Germany). Not sure what would have happened if I was without cash. There is no way to get cash at the airport. This lead to some serious problems when I needed to pay 100 k Airary for the Covid test. A very helpful, English speaking, security guard promptly found me a taxi driver who fronted me the 100 k. At this time the lines where very very long for both paying for the test and getting tested. Luckily my friendly security guard promptly brought me to the front of the lines. As "reward" I gave him the only cash I had on me, a Swedish 200 bill (just under 20) which I hope he can convert for his troubles.

When I arrived at the hotel they tried to pull a fast one on me. I got a room with no sea view and no TV, even though those things where clearly stated on by booking. Fortunately I had print outs (in French and English) of my booking and they gave me another room which is up to the specifications. One annoying thing is that the safe has a key not a code, which means I have to find a safe place to hide the key when I have a girl in my room overnight. Breakfast is supposed to be included, but since the hotel doesn't have a restaurant I'm not sure how they will arrange that.

As a mixed blessing there was an English speaking local guy sitting outside the hotel when I arrived. This guide has helped me with some stuff, including finder a spinner with an average looking friend for company. He's been asking a bit much for his services though.

And now for what everyone has been waiting for. The girls. My guide asked me what kind of girls I like. I told him "slim, firm tits, NOT a big ass". Shortly after he had produced a 20-25 year old spinner named Vanessa (I hope it's ok to put first name here, since there are no pics and I'm guessing she's not the only one in Nosy calling herself Vanessa). She had with her an average looking friend. I promptly brought them to my room for some fun Vanessa has a killer body and was very enthusiastic with a decent BBBJ, some tentative rimming. Ass only available for fingering, but I'm working on that. Her friend was disinterested with semi-sagging tits and a wide booty, not at all to my liking. Sadly none of the girls speak any English.

After my tumble with the girls we went out drinking together with the guide. Vanessa was really affectionate and smiling. I called it an early night (before 10) a brought Vanessa back to my room for the night. Her pouty, boring, average-looking friend I left behind. Today we slept in and at the moment Vanessa is away at the hair dresser. It seems it can be a good girlfriend experience for me, if I choose to keep her around.

I have not yet attained my Malagasy SIM. But when I have that I will get the contact information from my guide. If anyone wants to know how to contact him, send me a PM and I'll provide the information.

Advice and pointers:

Bring cash.

- At airport you have to pay for Visa (35) and Covid PCR test (100 k Airary). And there is NO way to get cash at airport.

ATM: s in Ambatoaloka.

- ATM next to big pharmacy does not accept MasterCard, only VISA.

- ATM across from Ambatoaloka hotel accepts both cards.

And finally I am really annoyed that my new Chromebook doesn't have a delete key, I have to press alt+backspace for delete. Not as horrible as Lenovo moving the ctrl-button, but still extremely annoying.[/QUOTE]Thanks Stargazer for yr very helpful report. Keep on the good work and if possible photos, girls' but also views.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2513504]Yesterday afternoon I arrived to Nosy Be. It has been a mixed bag, but I am enjoying my vacation so far.

It felt like it took forever to get out of the airport:

- Show proof of negative PCR-test on steps from aircraft.

- Disinfection station, where you get sprayed by something inside a special made cubicle.

- Passport control.

- Visa on arrival, costs 35 and you must have cash.

- Queue to pay for PCR Covid test.

- Wait in line to take PCR Covid test.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your detailed report. I don't know if I would do that to myself at the moment, and you can only move in NB, right?

In any case, I'll wait until all of Mada is open, which will take even longer.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2513504]
And finally I am really annoyed that my new Chromebook doesn't have a delete key, I have to press alt+backspace for delete. Not as horrible as Lenovo moving the ctrl-button, but still extremely annoying.[/QUOTE]You deserve it to be taken for a ride. If you had read the very helpful reports from other members you should know that:

1 - Its a french speaking country. Non French speaking travellers will get scammed. And I don't pity them! Fxxk off.

2 - Its a third world country. What the heck you need chromebook there.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2513670]You deserve it to be taken for a ride. If you had read the very helpful reports from other members you should know that:

1 - Its a french speaking country. Non French speaking travellers will get scammed. And I don't pity them! Fxxk off.

2 - Its a third world country. What the heck you need chromebook there.[/QUOTE]So you are a fluent French speaking Austrian, congratulations!

BTW. A Samsung galaxy tab S7 is more recommendable?

Ask for a friend.

Mudra.

Thanks for your first report. I wish you joyful times in Mada. Looking forward to your next reports.

Tinte / Black ink.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2513670]You deserve it to be taken for a ride. If you had read the very helpful reports from other members you should know that:

1 - Its a french speaking country. Non French speaking travellers will get scammed. And I don't pity them! Fxxk off.

2 - Its a third world country. What the heck you need chromebook there.[/QUOTE]Most travellers gets scammed the first time they go to a new unfamiliar (non-western) country. Being scammed (to a limit) and figuring out how to avoid it in the future is part of the adventure. Only going places where you know everything will be honkey dorey is boring. I know Mada is a French speaking country, but money talks.

There's is this invention called WiFi that is available at hotels, among other places, if you did not know that.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2513789]Mada is a French speaking country, but money talks.[/QUOTE]Absolutely, Always people will jealous and talk shit just ignore. So less you read the forum better experience you got as you find your own path and discover new things. Now for leptop I always take full size laptop plus tablet and two phones. I do video and photo editing when I shoot girls also use it for work.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2513789]Most travellers gets scammed the first time they go to a new unfamiliar (non-western) country. Being scammed (to a limit) and figuring out how to avoid it in the future is part of the adventure. Only going places where you know everything will be honkey dorey is boring. I know Mada is a French speaking country, but money talks.

There's is this invention called WiFi that is available at hotels, among other places, if you did not know that.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right, only people who move within their world of experience make fewer mistakes.

My attraction to traveling is not to do just that. Discovering destinations that are not yet known to me is certainly more challenging, although I like to return to familiar worlds in between.

And yes, even in remote Himalayan areas in bad weather, it is nice to watch saved Netflix films.

Mudra.

Keep the good spirit up! Yes.

Tinte / black ink.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2513504]Yesterday afternoon I arrived to Nosy Be. It has been a mixed bag, but I am enjoying my vacation so far.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report. I can't wait for the whole Island to open up again then I'll be on the first plane there. It will be the first time for me in an African country, I speak no French so I guess I will be taken for a ride sometimes too but you learn from your mistakes. Hoping for some more reports and photos if possible haha.

My guide is on the greedy side, I think, but that is not unexpected. The first day he asked for 60 k for showing me around and procuring the two girls. That was fine with me. On the afternoon of my second day I was sitting on the balcony when he spotted me from the street below. He, knowing the doorman, speedily joins me on the balcony asking for a beer and a smoke (no surprise and perfectly alright). Immediately he starts talking about this bar that I "have to" see. I tell him I'm fine where I am relaxing with my beer, music and book. He goes on about the bar for a while until he spots two girls he knows on the street. They join us and I get them drinks as well (none of the girls were to my taste). When they realize I'm not interested they leave and I agree to follow my guide to this bar that's supposedly amazing. Of course it turns out to be just another beach side bar, as I had expected. Also, as expected, he orders drinks for us (which is fine with me). After a while it starts to rain, a lot, and a large group of people takes shelter at some tables close by. Guide tells me they are his friends and that he would appreciate it if I would buy them some beer. Since it looks like a family gathering I agree and order a few large bottles for them. Not one of them even turns over to wave or say thanks, which is rude but no biggie. A while later he walks me back to my hotel 2-3 minutes away and he asks for 40 k for showing me the bar! I tell him no way he'll get 40 k and that he should be happy for me getting drinks for his friends. After some whining from him about being hungry and other woes (I guess impressing friends with beer was more important than eating) I gave him 10 k and all was fine. Perhaps I shouldn't have given him anything, but we were standing on the street with people who clearly know him within hearing distance and I think it was important to let him save face with them. When I ran into him in the evening everything was fine. And today I asked him to look for a nice Christmas party.

Midday and afternoon sun is murdering hot. So far it has been raining in late afternoon and / or early evening. That is actually great, since the air is cooler and fresh afterwards. Me and my girl have hit the beach just after 7 in the mornings, and until the heat really rolls in sometime after 11 it's awesome. Tomorrow we will go to the famous double-island Nosy Iranja. It's supposed to be an all-inclusive trip (we'll see about that) costing 200 k for me and 100 k for bringing my girl.

In my next report I will describe my exciting days so far (relaxing on the beach).

As usual clothes, drinks, food and trinkets all add up to more than the actual fee paid to the girl while enjoying a GFE. More on that subject in my next report.

Finally I would like to clarify something in my previous report.

The Euro symbols didn't show. Visa on arrival is 35 Euros and I slipped the guard equivalent to 20 Euros.

SG, after reading your latest I am afraid you may have given poor Amadeuss a coronary with your free spending ways! Hopefully you will gain enough knowledge and confidence to do away with these greedy fuckers. I almost never engage these sorts unless I am downright desperate.

It is also amusing that perhaps the cheapest guy to ever post here supports you. In any case, it's your dough. Have fun and kick the greedy ones to the curb.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2514216]...... A while later he walks me back to my hotel 2-3 minutes away and he asks for 40 k for showing me the bar! I tell him no way he'll get 40 k and that he should be happy for me getting drinks for his friends......[/QUOTE]Thanks again for the report, but be careful that the guy doesn't rip you off! He will have more and more friends who want something from you.

I know that from India, if you give them a finger they want the whole hand. It's better to say goodbye to the guy in a friendly but firm manner, I never needed an agent to have fun.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2514216]

Visa on arrival is ... and I slipped the guard equivalent to 20 Euros.[/QUOTE]Bribing someone in Mada you don't know is a double sword. But it shows your state of mind. For Malgache their pride is one of the few things they own. And hurting it will have serious consequences.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2514216]In my next report I will describe my exciting days so far (relaxing on the beach).
As usual clothes, drinks, food and trinkets all add up to more than the actual fee paid to the girl while enjoying a GFE. More on that subject in my next report.
Finally I would like to clarify something in my previous report.
The Euro symbols didn't show. Visa on arrival is 35 Euros and I slipped the guard equivalent to 20 Euros.[/QUOTE]Everyone here who's spent appreciable time in the country is all-too-familiar with the exciting and relaxing days you're going on about. Take care that you're not so lonely you neglect to define and keep your space and boundaries with some of these people, so you don't forget they live in desperate poverty, otherwise you will become a candidate to be robbed and rolled.

For me its clear. I never ever use a guide. What for? If you RTFF all it takes take a stroll through Ambatoloaka any time of day to find chicas. But I have the luxury of time to explore everything myself. As several guys here pointed out already. Next time you going to find yourself surrounded by some guys with knives relieving you of your valuables. I have only girlfriends in Africa. What for I need a pimp of all places in Mada is a mystery to me.

La Buse.
Who knows every brothel in Sinza now.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2514216]The Euro symbols didn't show. Visa on arrival is 35 Euros and I slipped the guard equivalent to 20 Euros.[/QUOTE]Why giving 1 month salary to a guard for nothing? This is just f. G ridiculous. You are obviously not ready to be here. I give you a few days before you get robbed or more considering the way you splash money around for free. Who needs a pimp in mada seriously?

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2514216]My guide is on the greedy side, I think, but that is not unexpected. The first day he asked for 60 k for showing me around and procuring the two girls. That was fine with me. On the afternoon of my second day I was sitting on the balcony when he spotted me from the street below. He, knowing the doorman, speedily joins me on the balcony asking for a beer and a smoke (no surprise and perfectly alright). Immediately he starts talking about this bar that I "have to" see. I tell him I'm fine where I am relaxing with my beer, music and book. He goes on about the bar for a while until he spots two girls he knows on the street. They join us and I get them drinks as well (none of the girls were to my taste). When they realize I'm not interested they leave and I agree to follow my guide to this bar that's supposedly amazing. Of course it turns out to be just another beach side bar, as I had expected. Also, as expected, he orders drinks for us (which is fine with me). After a while it starts to rain, a lot, and a large group of people takes shelter at some tables close by. Guide tells me they are his friends and that he would appreciate it if I would buy them some beer. Since it looks like a family gathering I agree and order a few large bottles for them. Not one of them even turns over to wave or say thanks, which is rude but no biggie. A while later he walks me back to my hotel 2-3 minutes away and he asks for 40 k for showing me the bar! I tell him no way he'll get 40 k and that he should be happy for me getting drinks for his friends. After some whining from him about being hungry and other woes (I guess impressing friends with beer was more important than eating) I gave him 10 k and all was fine. Perhaps I shouldn't have given him anything, but we were standing on the street with people who clearly know him within hearing distance and I think it was important to let him save face with them. When I ran into him in the evening everything was fine. And today I asked him to look for a nice Christmas party.

Midday and afternoon sun is murdering hot. So far it has been raining in late afternoon and / or early evening. That is actually great, since the air is cooler and fresh afterwards. Me and my girl have hit the beach just after 7 in the mornings, and until the heat really rolls in sometime after 11 it's awesome. Tomorrow we will go to the famous double-island Nosy Iranja. It's supposed to be an all-inclusive trip (we'll see about that) costing 200 k for me and 100 k for bringing my girl.

In my next report I will describe my exciting days so far (relaxing on the beach).

As usual clothes, drinks, food and trinkets all add up to more than the actual fee paid to the girl while enjoying a GFE. More on that subject in my next report.

Finally I would like to clarify something in my previous report.

The Euro symbols didn't show. Visa on arrival is 35 Euros and I slipped the guard equivalent to 20 Euros.[/QUOTE]Great report, StarGazer101 ! Thank you for the update.

I think you better ask your new girlfriend to bring some of her girlfriends back to you to have some fun together in a nice threesome or even more.

That's how I did when I was in Mada last time. Mada girls are very open minded for adventures with more than one girl.

Never ask male guides for help. They only cost you money.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2514529]Why giving 1 month salary to a guard for nothing? This is just f. G ridiculous. You are obviously not ready to be here. I give you a few days before you get robbed or more considering the way you splash money around for free. Who needs a pimp in mada seriously?[/QUOTE]As I wrote in my first report I told the guard that I had trouble because I didn't have any cash on me. He offered to find me a taxi driver who.

Would front me the money and then take me to ATM and hotel. I offered him the only actual money I had on me, a Swedish 200 note, after he had helped past the first long line of people waiting to pay for the test. I hardly call his services nothing and me giving him the money might be considered a bribe, but it happened after he had already helped me. I might get robbed, but the guide knows I go to the ATM each day which means he should know I don't carry a lot of cash. If my phone and computer gets stolen it would be a bummer for sure, but not really a big deal. I have also never strayed from the main bar and beach area, and I make sure I don't go away from the main street after dark.

Since there seem to be a few who think I should ditch and avoid the guide / pimp this report will be kind of a sidetrack. Reports, and maybe pictures, on girls will still be coming, don't worry about it.

My island trip was actually arranged by my guide. Price was the same as I have seen on several adverts by the roadside and one of the other guides (a stout female) tried to sell me the same trip for the same price the other day. He also told me that the price for bringing my local "girlfriend" would be half compared to what I would pay for myself. This he did without any questions or prompting from me. Everything was included as promised, except for alcoholic beverages on the beach. Water, soft drinks, snacks and fruit as well as a very nice lunch buffet. Buffet included fish, crab, shrimps, condiments as well as beer and soft drinks. My date and I also received a large plate of langoustines, which were not a part of the lunch for the group. Guide told me that he got us this because he had promised me langoustines on the trip. In fact it was only mentioned in passing while we talked about the destination the other day. He was very helpful and attentive the whole day and when we returned he neither asked for nor got any extra money.

When I asked for a good Christmas party he did not try to sell me on any of the numerous parties that are advertised for 50-200 k per person. Instead he suggested that I would pay for supermarket beer and produce that he and the hotel doorman would cook on the hotel balcony.

All-in-all I no longer have the impression that the guide is some kind of street hustler (I might still be proven wrong). When I go around anywhere with a guide who "knows everybody" and claims that he can arrange all sorts of things I do pay attention to which people seem to know him and how they behave. This guy always gets friendly smiles from a lot of people we pass by, including some definite French expats. He also warned me not to keep Vanessa's friend around as she shouldn't be trusted.

Vanessa asked for money the morning after our first night together. I asked her how much and she said "up to you". I gave her 40 k, she smiled and gave me a long wet kiss. Second day I left 40 k next to her phone, which she didn't touch until I told her it was for her. Next day I forgot to give her money, which she still haven't asked for even though I gave her money the following day.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2514668]Since there seem to be a few who think I should ditch and avoid the guide / pimp this report will be kind of a sidetrack. Reports, and maybe pictures, on girls will still be coming, don't worry about it.

My island trip was actually arranged by my guide. Price was the same as I have seen on several adverts by the roadside and one of the other guides (a stout female) tried to sell me the same trip for the same price the other day. He also told me that the price for bringing my local "girlfriend" would be half compared to what I would pay for myself. This he did without any questions or prompting from me. Everything was included as promised, except for alcoholic beverages on the beach. Water, soft drinks, snacks and fruit as well as a very nice lunch buffet. Buffet included fish, crab, shrimps, condiments as well as beer and soft drinks. My date and I also received a large plate of langoustines, which were not a part of the lunch for the group. Guide told me that he got us this because he had promised me langoustines on the trip. In fact it was only mentioned in passing while we talked about the destination the other day. He was very helpful and attentive the whole day and when we returned he neither asked for nor got any extra money.

When I asked for a good Christmas party he did not try to sell me on any of the numerous parties that are advertised for 50-200 k per person. Instead he suggested that I would pay for supermarket beer and produce that he and the hotel doorman would cook on the hotel balcony..[/QUOTE]Hi,

It's very good to read you. Are you still in Madagascar now? Can we fly now to Madagascar from Europe. Is the country opened? Do we need to be in quarantine when we arrive? Do we need to show them a PCR TEST?

I was never in Madagascar, I'm used to go Thailand and Cambodia all the time for girls but right now it's impossible to go there unless we do a quarantine for 2 weeks. Where are you exactly? In Nosy Be? Is it a beautiful island? Is it the paradise? And what about girls? I love sexy young girls 18/25. Is it easy to find nice ladies?

I fucked hundreds of Thai and Cambodian girls! But I never fucked African girls! I was never in Africa and Madagascar! How much do you pay them? Please tell me the price for a high sexy girl! I really love sexy working girls! You have any pictures? Price is not a problem. I prefer to pay more and be with a high sexy girl.

Do you use condoms there? Or girls accept bareback easily?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2516893]Hi,

It's very good to read you. Are you still in Madagascar now? Can we fly now to Madagascar from Europe. Is the country opened? Do we need to be in quarantine when we arrive? Do we need to show them a PCR TEST?

I was never in Madagascar, I'm used to go Thailand and Cambodia all the time for girls but right now it's impossible to go there unless we do a quarantine for 2 weeks. Where are you exactly? In Nosy Be? Is it a beautiful island? Is it the paradise? And what about girls? I love sexy young girls 18/25. Is it easy to find nice ladies?

I fucked hundreds of Thai and Cambodian girls! But I never fucked African girls! I was never in Africa and Madagascar! How much do you pay them? Please tell me the price for a high sexy girl! I really love sexy working girls! You have any pictures? Price is not a problem. I prefer to pay more and be with a high sexy girl.

Do you use condoms there? Or girls accept bareback easily?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think I'm the first to write RTFF today.

I'm also relatively new here, but I took the trouble to read back 2 years, yes it's hard work.

Mudra.

Gilolo,

Did you read a single post other than the last? Every single question you asked (all 16 of them) is in previous reports.

Nice to read that you have found your own way and enjoying your time in Mada. Keep on going like that.

Tinte / Black ink.

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2516893]Hi,

Please tell me the price for a high sexy girl! I really love sexy working girls! You have any pictures? Price is not a problem. I prefer to pay more and be with a high sexy girl.

Do you use condoms there? Or girls accept bareback easily?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]The typical price is 100 Euro. but they will refuse without condom. Most pro girls will insist, if they see that you are a rich frequent fucker, to use 2 condoms. And no BJ.

If you fuck an innocent girl without condom, she will insist next morning to visit her family and getting married. If not, its a "FADY" and she will come back with all of her brothers and neighbours for revenge. If you check reports 2 years ago you will read about the 2 french guys who got beaten up and burned at the beach of Nosy Be before police could stop the crowd. But then it was too late.

So, watch your back. Better stay 2021 in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2517142]The typical price is 100 Euro. but they will refuse without condom. Most pro girls will insist, if they see that you are a rich frequent fucker, to use 2 condoms. And no BJ.

If you fuck an innocent girl without condom, she will insist next morning to visit her family and getting married. If not, its a "FADY" and she will come back with all of her brothers and neighbours for revenge. If you check reports 2 years ago you will read about the 2 french guys who got beaten up and burned at the beach of Nosy Be before police could stop the crowd. But then it was too late.

So, watch your back. Better stay 2021 in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Well I'm really surprised by what you say! I'm used to fuck bareback all the time! I'm not horny with condoms! Usually I give tip if girls want condoms and the problem is fixed! I'll do same in Madagascar!

100 Euros is fine if the girl is really sexy! Usually on holidays, I spend about 300 per day!

Do you know the best places to find sexy ladies in Madagascar?

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2517302]Well I'm really surprised by what you say! I'm used to fuck bareback all the time! I'm not horny with condoms! Usually I give tip if girls want condoms and the problem is fixed! I'll do same in Madagascar!

100 Euros is fine if the girl is really sexy! Usually on holidays, I spend about 300 per day!

Do you know the best places to find sexy ladies in Madagascar?[/QUOTE]People make fun on you but you even to silly to realise it. Like somebody said if your invest some time to read this forum back 30-50 pages you will find all answers and 100 euros for all night for girls can become 8-12 euros easy, later you can said thanks for everyone for good advices and helping to save you a lot of money and not look silly anymore.

When I was with Pokeris last year in Mada he was burning through 3 to 4 girls a day at the price he's talking about. RTFF!

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2514529]Why giving 1 month salary to a guard for nothing? This is just f. G ridiculous. You are obviously not ready to be here. I give you a few days before you get robbed or more considering the way you splash money around for free. Who needs a pimp in mada seriously?[/QUOTE]And who are you to decide if he's ready or not? It's his first time in Mada, I never been there myself but we all have been newbies in some country sometime overpaying. Ok maybe not all of us but most of us at some point. We learn and wise up and if I got put in front of a big line like that and having someone helping me find a guy who front me the cash for the test I would gladly part with my 200 kronor bill as well, no biggie.

Sure Africa might be different and as you say splashing too much might get you in trouble but I haven't seen him splashing around anything in his other reports. Unless you call buying his guides friends some beers splashing. I enjoy reading this forum but sometimes it seems guys here gets so offended if another guy spends more than normal or use a guide where he might not necessarily need one. Just fking relax and let him enjoy his vacation. Skl!

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2516893]Hi,

It's very good to read you. Are you still in Madagascar now? Can we fly now to Madagascar from Europe. Is the country opened? Do we need to be in quarantine when we arrive? Do we need to show them a PCR TEST?

I was never in Madagascar, I'm used to go Thailand and Cambodia all the time for girls but right now it's impossible to go there unless we do a quarantine for 2 weeks. Where are you exactly? In Nosy Be? Is it a beautiful island? Is it the paradise? And what about girls? I love sexy young girls 18/25. Is it easy to find nice ladies?

I fucked hundreds of Thai and Cambodian girls! But I never fucked African girls! I was never in Africa and Madagascar! How much do you pay them? Please tell me the price for a high sexy girl! I really love sexy working girls! You have any pictures? Price is not a problem. I prefer to pay more and be with a high sexy girl.

Do you use condoms there? Or girls accept bareback easily?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]At least read a few pages back before you ask questions like that. As someone else already commented everything you ask have been answered before but the most stupid question that people always seem to ask is how much is the price for a good looking girl. Do you think they all have a set price or what? You claim to have fucked hundreds of Thai's and Cambodians but it looks more like you never been mongering before with questions like that. No offense and good luck if you decide to take the plunge!

Prior to my visit on the Ile Rouge I read about the hole thread. So I would suggest to others as it is very entertaining too.

Meanwhile I was six times to Kenya and a few other places in Africa.

A well prepared " Legionnaire " I felt.

And yes, reactions to my " Fleure de Banane " got me speechless. Take it easy: mora mora!

Tinte / black Ink.

[QUOTE=StarGazer101;2514668]Since there seem to be a few who think I should ditch and avoid the guide / pimp this report will be kind of a sidetrack. Reports, and maybe pictures, on girls will still be coming, don't worry about it.

My island trip was actually arranged by my guide. Price was the same as I have seen on several adverts by the roadside and one of the other guides (a stout female) tried to sell me the same trip for the same price the other day. He also told me that the price for bringing my local "girlfriend" would be half compared to what I would pay for myself. This he did without any questions or prompting from me. Everything was included as promised, except for alcoholic beverages on the beach. Water, soft drinks, snacks and fruit as well as a very nice lunch buffet. Buffet included fish, crab, shrimps, condiments as well as beer and soft drinks. My date and I also received a large plate of langoustines, which were not a part of the lunch for the group. Guide told me that he got us this because he had promised me langoustines on the trip. In fact it was only mentioned in passing while we talked about the destination the other day. He was very helpful and attentive the whole day and when we returned he neither asked for nor got any extra money.

When I asked for a good Christmas party he did not try to sell me on any of the numerous parties that are advertised for 50-200 k per person. Instead he suggested that I would pay for supermarket beer and produce that he and the hotel doorman would cook on the hotel balcony..[/QUOTE]Don't care about people bashing you for using a guide / pimp or giving a tip to a helpful guard. Just hope you are enjoying your vacation and I'm looking forward to more reports!

[QUOTE=LuddeBoy;2517865]Don't care about people bashing you for using a guide / pimp or giving a tip to a helpful guard. Just hope you are enjoying your vacation and I'm looking forward to more reports![/QUOTE]The so called helpful guards are very often just hawkers, maybe not in this case.

Mudra.

This is not a report. I'm just recommending Andrea Lee's excellent short story "The Rivals" in the current New Yorker. It's about two aged Italian vazaha fighting for the affection of a duplicitous Malagasy woman on a fictionalized Nosy Be. An amusing mental escape in this plague year.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2519922]This is not a report. I'm just recommending Andrea Lee's excellent short story "The Rivals" in the current New Yorker. It's about two aged Italian vazaha fighting for the affection of a duplicitous Malagasy woman on a fictionalized Nosy Be. An amusing mental escape in this plague year.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommendation. I enjoyed reading the story.

This is not a report. I'm just recommending a video of Miss Madagascar, Nosy Be. She looks yummy in her two-piece. [URL]https://youtu.be/lXoBhvt9FAs[/URL].

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2525086]This is not a report. I'm just recommending a video of Miss Madagascar, Nosy Be. She looks yummy in her two-piece. [URL]https://youtu.be/lXoBhvt9FAs[/URL].[/QUOTE]The beaches and the turquoise blue sea are really nice! Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2525086]This is not a report. I'm just recommending a video of Miss Madagascar, Nosy Be. She looks yummy in her two-piece. [URL]https://youtu.be/lXoBhvt9FAs[/URL].[/QUOTE]Makes me think how jung she is? Take a guess!

Miss Mada 2020 by the way is 2 years junger - 18 !

Tinte / Black ink.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2525086]This is not a report. I'm just recommending a video of Miss Madagascar, Nosy Be. She looks yummy in her two-piece. [URL]https://youtu.be/lXoBhvt9FAs[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks for the share, can't wait getting there.

Would you guys recommend Tamatve?

Its such a generic question but info is scarce or I can not find. Tamatve interests me the most out of all Africa options. I have never been to Africa, can speak only the most basic French and know ac and Pattaya.

I had in mind a few days Tana and the rest Tamatve instead of just Nosy be.

Nosy be seems to be the default option for mada but its such a remote place and this scares me off tbh. What makes this place stand out? Are the more ladies available? Is it the beach?

To me, I would highly recommend Tamatave!

First 2 nights in Tana, take the bus to Tamatave and stay there for 5 nights. Slowly strolling down the coast to Manakara, take a rest for 5 nights. Etc. Toliara. Ifaty.

But that's just me. RTFF.

I guess to you - just Tamatave ? No !

Never been there, will perhaps go there, on the bottom of my list. But to you I recommend Nosy be. For a start.

Tinte / Black ink.

The reason you hear a lot about Nosy be is for several reasons. It has the most tourist traffic, by which I mean tourists, not just travellers and mongers. One of the reasons I don't like it. It has the best infrastructure except for perhaps Tana. It is the easiest to get by in with little / no French and right now probably has more flights than Tana! And yes it has plenty of ladies, but so does the rest of the country. Don't be put off by it's remoteness. Everywhere in Mada is remote except Tamatave. In any case it is all moot because at the moment (unless there has been a change) you can't go anywhere else anyway.

How much time have you got? If it is limited you may find all you want in Tamatave and decide to just stay there. I don't know what Tinte is saying. Yes highly recommended and he has never been there. On the bottom of his list. Then it is just Tamatave, not for you? And forget about Manakara unless you have plenty of time. Takes ages to get to and out of and not a hell of a lot there when you do. Concentrate on a few major centres and fly if you have the means. And yes RTFF. Everything you want to know (well, almost) is there.

[QUOTE=Bienenstich;2528725]Would you guys recommend Tamatve?

Its such a generic question but info is scarce or I can not find. Tamatve interests me the most out of all Africa options. I have never been to Africa, can speak only the most basic French and know ac and Pattaya.

I had in mind a few days Tana and the rest Tamatve instead of just Nosy be.

Nosy be seems to be the default option for mada but its such a remote place and this scares me off tbh. What makes this place stand out? Are the more ladies available? Is it the beach?[/QUOTE]Do you have a problem with eyesight? There is Hundreds of posts about Tamatave or Toamasina as it's called also. Use the search function and type in TAMATAVE.

I hope the post was helpful.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2528741]To me, I would highly recommend Tamatave!

First 2 nights in Tana, take the bus to Tamatave and stay there for 5 nights. Slowly strolling down the coast to Manakara, take a rest for 5 nights. Etc. Toliara. Ifaty.

But that's just me. RTFF.

I guess to you - just Tamatave ? No !

Never been there, will perhaps go there, on the bottom of my list. But to you I recommend Nosy be. For a start.

Tinte / Black ink.[/QUOTE]Sounds good, how is the road from Tamatave to Manakara? From there the train to Fiana (if it is working) and down to Toliara.

Mudra.

From Tamatave to Manakara. Taxi brousse. Parts can bee done on the canal de Panganale. So I will try, some rather remote places to discover. Take a guide or stay around other tourists with a guide. Up to the Legionnaires experience and bravery.

Last time- different route. I got in contact with a coal lorry driver for some beer I did on section with that.

Jes Manakara / Fiana. The train. As I did last time, but taxi is also operating on a good rout. Made a stop in Ranomafana for the forest.

Look always for entertaining options. But use your common sense or they chop you up and will grill you!

Tinte / Black ink.

For me is the big question "how will the scene change after corona in tamatave, tana, tulear and so on".

I want to make my first trip at this moment where the conditions are mostly normal. But what will be the change?

[QUOTE=Tinte;2528858]Look always for entertaining options. But use your common sense or they chop you up and will grill you!

Tinte / Black ink.[/QUOTE]True, common sense is always important, whether in Africa or Asia or anywhere else in the djungel out there.

Perhaps someone can elaborate on this story. I had read that these Frenchmen were incorrectly accused of abusing young children and a mob descended and attacked these two poor souls and killed and burned them to death before the police could intervene. Whether they had anything to do with kidnapping or harming children has never been clear but it appeared that this may have been a case of mistaken identity. Nevertheless, I never read about anyone being charged for this atrocity so not sure of the outcome. But it certainly gives one pause when considering to travel here. I have never been and would like to visit sometime to see the natural beauty and flora and fauna of this island. However, I am not terribly interest in the women there because the photos I have seen on these pages don't impress me that much. I think Asian girls are much prettier and perhaps a bit better educated as well. In this case, not being interested in mongering could be a blessing in disguise.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2517142]The typical price is 100 Euro. but they will refuse without condom. Most pro girls will insist, if they see that you are a rich frequent fucker, to use 2 condoms. And no BJ.

If you fuck an innocent girl without condom, she will insist next morning to visit her family and getting married. If not, its a "FADY" and she will come back with all of her brothers and neighbours for revenge. If you check reports 2 years ago you will read about the 2 french guys who got beaten up and burned at the beach of Nosy Be before police could stop the crowd. But then it was too late.

So, watch your back. Better stay 2021 in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2519922]This is not a report. I'm just recommending Andrea Lee's excellent short story "The Rivals" in the current New Yorker. It's about two aged Italian vazaha fighting for the affection of a duplicitous Malagasy woman on a fictionalized Nosy Be. An amusing mental escape in this plague year.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the rec! Nice read.

I missed my annual Mada trip due to covid last year. Not missing it again in 2021.

Cheers!

Hello fellows!

I have not been doing a lot of reporting of late. Letting the fresh new blood do that. LOL.

My buddies and I missed on our annual Mada trip last year. I am determined not to miss on it again this year.

Currently I am stationed in the USA and they are requiring COVID testing to get back. My question: what is the situation in Nosy regarding that? Easy to do? Is it the antigen or the RTPCR test? Does anyone know the turn around time and cost?

PM or thread response works for me.

Thank you. Hope to meet some of you some day. Beers on me!

CC

PS: I did go back in the forum a few months, if I missed the info my apologies.

Places change constantly anyway. Would it have been the same after one year with or without covid. No. My approach would bee different so as the outcome of it too.

Most of us depend more or less on a call it touristy infrastructure, will this now survive? It is this infrastructure wich was suffering for years anyway and kept some tourists away. By the way, it is often said that Mada is a cheap country. Thats only partly true, if you rely on that infrastructure, comforts, it can get very, very costly.

General desperation will lead to more crime.

I guess after all. Going there will bee even more challenging than bevor.

Tinte / Black ink.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2529096]Perhaps someone can elaborate on this story. I had read that these Frenchmen were incorrectly accused of abusing young children and a mob descended and attacked these two poor souls and killed and burned them to death before the police could intervene. Whether they had anything to do with kidnapping or harming children has never been clear but it appeared that this may have been a case of mistaken identity. Nevertheless, I never read about anyone being charged for this atrocity so not sure of the outcome. But it certainly gives one pause when considering to travel here. I have never been and would like to visit sometime to see the natural beauty and flora and fauna of this island. However, I am not terribly interest in the women there because the photos I have seen on these pages don't impress me that much. I think Asian girls are much prettier and perhaps a bit better educated as well. In this case, not being interested in mongering could be a blessing in disguise.[/QUOTE]Don't go. Madagascar is dangerous. They lynch Vazaha on a regular basis. All you need is to be at the wrong place the wrong time and a tropical "paradise" turns into a nightmare. If you RTFF then you know why an Italian and a French resident were burned alive on the beach in Ambataloaka.

If you can't stomach that, better stay at home and watch National Geographic TV.

La Buse.

Lynchings are nothing special. Happens all over Africa on a regular basis. In Kenya if you're a caught thief usually you get a burning car tire around your neck.

In on remote village in the southeast I asked the chief about the still existence of cannibals, as I have heard rumors about it.

He had a good laugh and replied: Do not let them fool you Tinte, there is no more cannibals in this region! Actually we have eaten him, the last on of them the other Sunday with great delight as he was very tasty.

Tinte / Black ink.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2529529]In on remote village in the southeast I asked the chief about the still existence of cannibals, as I have heard rumors about it.

He had a good laugh and replied: Do not let them fool you Tinte, there is no more cannibals in this region! Actually we have eaten him, the last on of them the other Sunday with great delight as he was very tasty.

Tinte / Black ink.[/QUOTE]To my knowledge there were never cannibals in Madagascar. But in south of Madagascar there is the Zone Rouge. This area is controlled by the Dahalo, traditional cattles rustlers who also plunder and kill the passengers passing through by Taxi Be. To this day. Cannibals you can still find mostly in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo. Why let the good meat of your enemies go to waste. LOL.

La Buse.

There is currently a famine in southern Madagascar. Hundreds of thousands are dependent on food aid because of a drought that has lasted for three years.

Just next to LE glacier is a square were at night they have tables, chairs and most more important food and drinks for sale. Small skewer with chicken, beef, liver and heart, spicy sauce rice and salad to go with. Most important cold beer and someone to practice La francaise. (LOL) It won't take long you are in company of all sorts. I spoke with a french expat in is 70 is. He said: bee generous! Do not waste your money. Definitely not. Do not play the cheap charly pretending you have little money, they are not stupid.

Back to the little beggars. I do not give any money for beggars as a general principle. I give sometimes a present or food. So the little on perhaps 8 years old asked for money. I refused and as he realized no money will come he started a " shadow box-fight " towards me.

What can you do as it gets on your nerves? You could easy snatch the little bugger as I would do at home. I would like to see the outcome of that in Tana!

Do not do it or I would assume you could end up in big trouble on the ground.

Instead - I just made a small remark to the patron and she made a sharp and clear intervention. Problem solved.

Someone who can not see beggars especially disabled ones. If you can not stomach, deal tragic situations etc. Stay at home! You can not easy achieve any good.

On does not need to bee a scientist to to see the dramatic disaster, especially on the nature. The real problem is the overpopulation. As everywhere.



Tinte / Black ink.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2529784]

Tinte / Black ink.

[/QUOTE]Tinte is not just black ink. It's every colour.

[QUOTE=Beno69;2530101]Tinte is not just black ink. It's every colour.[/QUOTE]Nothing is as simpel it first appears. Black people are not black either likewise the white man. Colorful in every aspect on has to discover.

Tinte / Black ink.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2529529]In on remote village in the southeast I asked the chief about the still existence of cannibals, as I have heard rumors about it.

He had a good laugh and replied: Do not let them fool you Tinte, there is no more cannibals in this region! Actually we have eaten him, the last on of them the other Sunday with great delight as he was very tasty.

Tinte / Black ink.[/QUOTE]Thanks, this made my day.

Mudra.

[QUOTE=TonyMontanaaO7;2529553]There is currently a famine in southern Madagascar. Hundreds of thousands are dependent on food aid because of a drought that has lasted for three years.[/QUOTE]Montana had an estimated 1,357 experiencing homelessness on any given day. Take care of them first before you talk about something you not seen by yourself and not know the deeper problems in that country mate!

[QUOTE=Tinte;2528858]From Tamatave to Manakara. Taxi brousse. Parts can bee done on the canal de Panganale. So I will try, some rather remote places to discover. Take a guide or stay around other tourists with a guide. Up to the Legionnaires experience and bravery.

Last time- different route. I got in contact with a coal lorry driver for some beer I did on section with that.

Jes Manakara / Fiana. The train. As I did last time, but taxi is also operating on a good rout. Made a stop in Ranomafana for the forest.

Look always for entertaining options. But use your common sense or they chop you up and will grill you!

Tinte / Black ink.[/QUOTE]When did you take the road from Tamatave to Manakara? I know the map shows a 'road' but when I was in Manakara you could only take a taxi brousse for the first leg but a large part had to be done by pirogue

As I wrote in the original post, it would bee my route if I would go to Tamatave on my next trip. I have not been there but I would like to do so.

There are some interesting looking places on that way south. I guess the Panganales is nowadays only partly open , the northern part . The rest taxi brousse if possibel or walk -LOL .

Tinte / Black Ink.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2531664]As I wrote in the original post, it would bee my route if I would go to Tamatave on my next trip. I have not been there but I would like to do so.

There are some interesting looking places on that way south. I guess the Panganales is nowadays only partly open , the northern part . The rest taxi brousse if possibel or walk -LOL .

Tinte / Black Ink.[/QUOTE]Be careful not to walk or travel in the dahalo territories, not sure you could come back to tell your story.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2531440]When did you take the road from Tamatave to Manakara? I know the map shows a 'road' but when I was in Manakara you could only take a taxi brousse for the first leg but a large part had to be done by pirogue[/QUOTE]Correct. The RN11 from Antsampanana to Vatomandry can be taken by taxi brousse. But then further south to Mananjary you need a 4 x4. Its all inland. From there however, you can use again taxi brousse to Manakara. It would be an expedition trip.

More easy via Tana, then south till Ranomafana and from there to Manakara, all possible by taxi brousse -- and perhaps return by train to Fianar.

Option is the Canal de Panglanes as organised tour.

[URL]https://pangalanesaventures.jimdofree.com/[/URL]

Actually this one does the southern part Manohoro til Manakara .

Tinte / Black ink.

Next to the train station in Tamatave. Jump on the boat!

First to finde a local " female guide " in Tamatave, fix a deal. Destination Manakara, should bee possible.

It all starts with a dream at one point, looking through the web. What a adventure!

Tinte / Black ink.

If you want to understand Madagascar you just need to read two books:

1.
Gimlette, The Gardens of Mars
[URL]https://www.amazon.de/dp/B081T4Z6YS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_49AMPW662AHGQSSF2J4Z[/URL].

2.
Hilary Bradt, Madagascar
[URL]https://www.amazon.de/dp/1784776653/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_NPEWYZEY27VG85JHFKWM[/URL].

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2539117]If you want to understand Madagascar you just need to .[/QUOTE]If you want to understand Madagascar:

The Disastrous Ordeal of 1987: Memory and Violence in Rural Madagascar.

Hi all!

All info on this thread is valuable.

Planning to arrive in madirokeli / nosy be on April. Just last week with the new rules upon corona, almost everything are closed over there (according the girls.).

Any friend who knows the actual situation on the Island? Any update would be very helpful for everybody.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=GreekDiver;2539152]Hi all!

All info on this thread is valuable.

Planning to arrive in madirokeli / nosy be on April. Just last week with the new rules upon corona, almost everything are closed over there (according the girls.).

Any friend who knows the actual situation on the Island? Any update would be very helpful for everybody.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Discos are closed. No parties. Rising numbers of deaths.

Not all but enough restaurants and hotels are open. Just plan your day that after dinner you go home with your girl, which you met before at the beach, get a nice bottle of DzamaRhum plus Mixer on the balcony and have a party there. Simple fun.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2539119]If you want to understand Madagascar:

The Disastrous Ordeal of 1987: Memory and Violence in Rural Madagascar.[/QUOTE]

First time poster here. I have read 2, maybe in some threads, 3 years going back from the entire Africa forum, and I am almost finished. However, I have only read the past 16 or 18 months, going back on this thread. Its just really long.

I have too say this is one of the most interesting. And yea I do have this time. Yea, I really want to visit this country. It took maybe 2 months, and I have not read every thread. I still have two or three more countries to read up on in the Africa section. The covid time I have is crazy.

Anyway, Where is this book? Its not on amazon. I could not find it there.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THbCiWsATBM&ab_channel=%23RaphL%23StanY[/URL]

It's in French, if you can understand half of it. Very well put.

I wouldn't set back a foot on mada, these people cursed themselves.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2540195]First time poster here. I have read 2, maybe in some threads, 3 years going back from
Anyway, Where is this book? Its not on amazon. I could not find it there.[/QUOTE]Google the title. There's a pdf file, 22-page summary that can be downloaded.

[URL]https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/328056007.pdf[/URL]

Can make one think about the society one himself lives in and how we work it out in true reality.

Tinte / Black ink.

For those that are interested in the Italian guy, that was hung and burned, I found the post. Its a lot harder than going back 2 years and looking for it. However the posts start at #1259. Unless you read the entire thread you might not be interested in reading that far back. Sometimes, guys like me, are not interested in reading the whole thread, and just want the current up to date information. Like me it took some searching, but I found it. You can also type these words from the title, into the search engine.

I have a feeling that a bunch of us will be going to Mada, as soon as possible. Wouldn't it be easier for us to rent a Villa, or some type or multi bedroom structure? Even if its for a week, or a month, or in my case to max out my visa. A couple or reasons behind this would be to share the cost, and then it would be cheaper. Another would be to share our experiences with like minded people. And still, yet another, would be to have a home base, where it would be comfortable to stay. I think it would be better to stay in a nice place then a shack on the beach, or maybe not.

I would not be the one to set this in motion, since I have never been to Mada, but some that have been there a few times and know how things work better than me should be able to find something easier, than those that have never been in the country.

Just a passing thought.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2540727]For those that are interested in the Italian guy, that was hung and burned, I found the post. Its a lot harder than going back 2 years and looking for it. However the posts start at #1259. Unless you read the entire thread you might not be interested in reading that far back. Sometimes, guys like me, are not interested in reading the whole thread, and just want the current up to date information. Like me it took some searching, but I found it. You can also type these words from the title, into the search engine.[/QUOTE]Do you care that much about murder cases in Detroit? Or a bicycle accident in Wuhan? Move on.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2540736]I have a feeling that a bunch of us will be going to Mada, as soon as possible. Wouldn't it be easier for us to rent a Villa, or some type or multi bedroom structure? Even if its for a week, or a month, or in my case to max out my visa. A couple or reasons behind this would be to share the cost, and then it would be cheaper. Another would be to share our experiences with like minded people. And still, yet another, would be to have a home base, where it would be comfortable to stay. I think it would be better to stay in a nice place then a shack on the beach, or maybe not.

I would not be the one to set this in motion, since I have never been to Mada, but some that have been there a few times and know how things work better than me should be able to find something easier, than those that have never been in the country.

Just a passing thought.[/QUOTE]This house with pool on NosyBe you can rent as a whole or by room. Rates about 30. -€ per room. The house lady will cook and take care of you.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2540736]I have a feeling that a bunch of us will be going to Mada, as soon as possible. Wouldn't it be easier for us to rent a Villa, or some type or multi bedroom structure? Even if its for a week, or a month, or in my case to max out my visa. A couple or reasons behind this would be to share the cost, and then it would be cheaper. Another would be to share our experiences with like minded people. And still, yet another, would be to have a home base, where it would be comfortable to stay. I think it would be better to stay in a nice place then a shack on the beach, or maybe not.

I would not be the one to set this in motion, since I have never been to Mada, but some that have been there a few times and know how things work better than me should be able to find something easier, than those that have never been in the country.

Just a passing thought.[/QUOTE]I think so too. If the girl in Amadeus post is the cook, I will volunteer to assist. LOL.

I am definitely visiting as soon as they open up. From my understanding Nosybe is cake walk. So your idea might be great for Toliara or Tamatave. A start would be for someone to volunteer to receive and reply to all PM on the subject. Not sure if we can clutter up the main board.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2540786]Do you care that much about murder cases in Detroit? Or a bicycle accident in Wuhan? Move on.[/QUOTE]Naw, dude. For some like me, I just find that kind of reading interesting. I am in Guadalajara and the s--t that goes on here, and in Mexico is crazy. For me its the most dangerous place I have ever been to, and I grew up near Chicago. Use to visit it, and work there too. I am no stranger to sketchy places. I am not one of those guys that like to stay in hotels either. Well at least in Europe, Asia, and the Americas. I have done Ukraine in 94, (which was really a bit scary at that time) Ethiopia, Colombia, the DR, are just a few places I have been too. I even did the secret tour in Colombia, That will never get posted out of respect. Just curious that's all.

I was thinking of some place out of Nosy be. From what I have read here its a bit of a tourist destination. I like the more (and I am sure others here too), not so touristy places.

Peace.

PS, Is the girl included in the price or is that extra.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2540791]This house with pool on NosyBe you can rent as a whole or by room. Rates about 30. - per room. The house lady will cook and take care of you.[/QUOTE]Whereabouts in Nosy Be is the house? I understand Ambatoloaka is the centre of activity. And as others have said, who's the girl? She looks exquisite. Even if she's a buttaface she's still an 8.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2540816]Naw, dude. For some like me, I just find that kind of reading interesting. I am in Guadalajara and the s--t that goes on here, and in Mexico is crazy. For me its the most dangerous place I have ever been to, and I grew up near Chicago. Use to visit it, and work there too. I am no stranger to sketchy places. I am not one of those guys that like to stay in hotels either. Well at least in Europe, Asia, and the Americas. I have done Ukraine in 94, (which was really a bit scary at that time) Ethiopia, Colombia, the DR, are just a few places I have been too. I even did the secret tour in Colombia, That will never get posted out of respect. Just curious that's all.

I was thinking of some place out of Nosy be. From what I have read here its a bit of a tourist destination. I like the more (and I am sure others here too), not so touristy places.

Peace.

PS, Is the girl included in the price or is that extra.[/QUOTE]Don't worry. Public lynchings in Nosy be are quite rare. LOL.

La Buse.

Seen on the FB of someone from Sambava, may be better than before?

In english: the road of Ambilobe to Vohemar is like this now. Thanks Mr President. Etc.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2540816]Naw, dude. For some like me, I just find that kind of reading interesting.

PS, Is the girl included in the price or is that extra.[/QUOTE]4 people murdered just on 16th of March at different locations:

[URL]https://lexpress.mg/category/faits-divers/[/URL]

If you find its interesting. Go. Scaredy-cat and sex tourists: stay away!

And the lady is on site, cadeaux negotiable.

Now if they could only do the same to Diego!

Your right, Shit like that happens all over the world.

Ethiopia, guys that drive the big trucks are always high on, what is called Khat or Kchat. They have to be for all the driving they do. Taxies the same way. I have seen those kind of accidents all the time. Once I seen a guy get hit by a car went flying. Fortunately they guy stopped and took him to the hospital. At the scene, I tried to explain to them that its not the proper way to handle the situation. They did not listen. They guy was in really bad shape and probably died enroute, or at the hospital. But you know what? Its Africa, like its been said so many times before, Expect the unexpected. From my time in Africa, I have learned that everything, EVERYTHING is tribal.

Not sure what was the reason behind the witchcraft thing, but superstition is a real thing, and the more they believe in it (usually the more uneducated types), the more they behave according to it.

The butcher guy, hard to say what happened there. Sounds to me like it was some sort of personal problems the man and the group had. Again hard to tell.

Have to say though, If it bleeds, it leads. People from my area back in the states will not ever go to the west side or the south side. Just too afraid. Too bad for them. Just a little exploring and you might find some interesting places to see and visit. I have been there and I have done that, with no problems. Its also been my experience that a lot of the crime stuff that goes on is gang related. Here, where I am at. Its mostly cartel stuff. I know a guy that was kidnapped (at gun point) robed for everything he had, his bank account was emptied passwords forced to be given up to all his accounts (including social media) and forced to walk home for about 90 minutes. It was his fault though (he is Mexican). He went out alone and was hammered. Then went to the ATM, where it all happened, and was kidnapped in a taxi no less.

I cant count the number of times people have told me that I was crazy for going to those places. I came back from Ethiopia, and I got tired of all the people asking me if I had Ebola. LOL

If your trying to scare me away from Mada, maybe try your luck on the next guy that comes along and wants to visit Mada for the first time. I am not the kind of guy that pops in a country for a few quickies. I like to take my time, and get to know the people. A three month visa is not long enough to understand a culture. You really need to live it for more than a week or two. Its the same everywhere. You see backpacker types that do as much as they can in a day or two and then move on. Same with business people. Here today, gone tomorrow. That kind of travel is not for me. Just my preference I guess.

Those articles however were interesting though. Thanks for the read. I am now into anything Mada. Just sounds like a wonderful place and the more I read and information I absorb, the more it makes me want to go there.

FWIW, Are we not all sex tourist here, or maybe you are one of those guys that want the spoils all to yourself. No insults intended

Peace.

So much for Nosy be at the moment, but it's your own fault to have to fly there now!

Mudra.

[QUOTE=Mudrakarma;2541340]So much for Nosy be at the moment, but it's your own fault to have to fly there now!

Mudra.[/QUOTE]That from the Madagascar embassy.

[QUOTE=Maikaefer12;2541376]That from the Madagascar embassy.[/QUOTE]That's all old stuff. Don't spread fake news as if there is a change. At the moment you can get in from Addis, if you fulfil all their requirements. In NB you make the test for 100.000 AR. So, what's the problem?

Just follow the rules -- and enjoy.

[QUOTE=Maikaefer12;2541376]That from the Madagascar embassy.[/QUOTE]Nobody will be blocked because of a passport. You will be blocked if your journey starts in any country of the list. That's a difference. But requirements can also change. As Someone else said, from Addis it's possible.

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2541420]Nobody will be blocked because of a passport. You will be blocked if your journey starts in any country of the list. That's a difference. But requirements can also change. As Someone else said, from Addis it's possible.[/QUOTE]Yes, you are right.

But we have here many guys not speaking french, by that not understanding the fine lines and never been to Mada but being "I-know-it-all".

It's amusing to see they are bitching about the "high" cost of Nosy Be. Yes it is the most expensive place in Mada but still cheap compared to NY, Singapore, Paris or any of dozens more places. They should be happy to be "stuck" there compared to many other countries. As for the 100 K test, cheap as chips. I will have to spend around 750 K at Seatac for a test just to get back into Canada. Greedy fuckers.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2541378]........In NB you make the test for 100.000 AR. So, what's the problem? Just follow the rules -- and enjoy.[/QUOTE]The problem seems to be that the pcr tests have to be sent to tana and the result takes a long time. But it's not my problem.

[URL]http://www.midi-madagasikara.mg/societe/2021/03/17/vol-international-des-centaines-de-passagers-coinces-a-nosy-be/?fbclid=IwAR1M8RXMYn4ODkqNoWBUwVgdZ5hVxJtnzEjwHScrUZIxUjHiCQ_XaBiO2ec[/URL]

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2540195]First time poster here. I have read 2, maybe in some threads, 3 years going back from the entire Africa forum, and I am almost finished. However, I have only read the past 16 or 18 months, going back on this thread. Its just really long.

I have too say this is one of the most interesting. And yea I do have this time. Yea, I really want to visit this country. It took maybe 2 months, and I have not read every thread. I still have two or three more countries to read up on in the Africa section. The covid time I have is crazy.

Anyway, Where is this book? Its not on amazon. I could not find it there.[/QUOTE]If you want to learn about the wild side of Mada you may want to check out the audio-book by the same title by Lawrence Winkler on Audible. It's a travelogue exploring poaching, illegal logging, political corruption, human servitude, robbery, murder, and armed gangs and much more. As Neddy 69 wrote once You have to enjoy the challenges of daily survival. In Africa you have to earn it. But every day is an adventure.

A statement issued this Sunday evening by the Ministry of Transport, Tourism and Meteorology (MTTM) provides details of the measures taken for these two areas where the South African coronavirus variant was first reported.

📌 Flights leaving and destined for Nosy Be are suspended for 15 days.

📌 The last international flights on Nosy Be will take place on Saturday, March 27.

Whether it opens on 11th April -- who knows.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2543082]
Whether it opens on 11th April -- who knows.[/QUOTE]A new statement says another extension of 15 days. No plan to reopen yet.

Malagasy authorities have closed the border, no foreigners are allowed to enter at this time. (In French - [URL]https://lexpress.mg/22/04/2021/transport-aerien-les-frontieres-fermees-aux-passagers-de-letranger/[/URL]).

The six regions most heavily affected by COVID (Analamanga. Region of Antanananarivo, Boeny, Atsinanana, Sava, Sofia, and Nosy Be) are locked down on the weekends, and there's a curfew in place from 21:00 to 04:00 during the week. Bars and night clubs are closed, restaurants remain open but are limited to 50% of capacity.

The medical system. Inadequate during the best of times. Is almost completely overrun. Families of COVID patients are hunting high and low for oxygen. Vaccines are promised for July.

[QUOTE=Nemo974;2498700]Your're welcome. I haven't been in Ambandia for a long time because of the lack of parking place for scooter. Not as clean and luxury rooms but 50% cheaper and the most stunning girls ever and 4 hands massage welcome.[/QUOTE]At Nemo974 I finally had a chance to check it out some time back. Fortunately, and thanks to your note, I was able to contact them, else I would never have found the place.

While not as high-class as the VIP in Ivandry, I agree with your assessment about the girls. At your suggestion, I enjoyed a four-hands massage and more at a reasonable rate.

For parking, coming from downtown, if you go past FTM, total, and a Pharmacy, you'll find a church on the left which has (paid) parking.

I also availed myself of Super Dream at your suggestion, a nice address, good Wi-Fi, and comfortable suites at the right price with no questions asked. Much appreciated!

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Madagascar will open its borders from July first, but step by step. Starting with 1. 000 traveler a week only in Tana and eight day querentine. Later it will increase and probably September first borders are completely open. Until now just a plan, needs to be confirmed. Following text in German. Hope it's ok, I didn't find another source in English or French. Sorry guys, google will translate it for you.

[URL]https://www.madamagazine.com/informationen-zum-coronavirus/[/URL]

Fingers crossed. I really hope you are right. That is when I was wanting to go but it did not look good. Hopefully something more concrete soon. Thanks for the tantalizing info.

SE.

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2573269]Madagascar will open its borders from July first, but step by step. Starting with 1. 000 traveler a week only in Tana and eight day querentine. Later it will increase and probably September first borders are completely open. Until now just a plan, needs to be confirmed. Following text in German. Hope it's ok, I didn't find another source in English or French. Sorry guys, google will translate it for you.

[URL]https://www.madamagazine.com/informationen-zum-coronavirus/[/URL][/QUOTE]"The borders remain closed to passengers from abroad, with the exception of those who are allowed to receive exemptions from the Council of Ministers," the head of government continues.

Last week, the Ministry of Transport, Tourism and Meteorology again insisted "that no date has been set for the reopening of Madagascar's borders".

Antananarivo, June 27th, Prime Minister Christian Ntsay speaking on TV.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2574948]"The borders remain closed to passengers from abroad, with the exception of those who are allowed to receive exemptions from the Council of Ministers," the head of government continues.

Last week, the Ministry of Transport, Tourism and Meteorology again insisted "that no date has been set for the reopening of Madagascar's borders".

Antananarivo, June 27th, Prime Minister Christian Ntsay speaking on TV.[/QUOTE]Well that sucks. I guess it will have to wait until next year for me to pop my Mada cherry.

Don't know that I would give up on this year yet. It has only gone just over 6 months into the year. Weather will play a facto for me though. If it is after November then I will wait too as I cannot stand the rainy season, although the west might not be too bad.

Bad news.

Borders won't open soon.

[URL]https://actu.orange.mg/les-frontieres-de-madagascar-restent-fermees-face-a-la-menace-du-variant-delta-du-coronavirus/[/URL]

I spent the latest Christmas and new year's on Nosy be and wrote some reports about my trip.

All-in-all it was an enjoyable vacation. For sure it would have been better if I could speak French, or at least understand it.

20 days in Ambotoalaka was a few days too many. There's not much to do apart from visiting the few bars and the occasional island trip or excursion.

To stay on the safe side I avoided the beach after dark. I made sure I only went to the ATM during the day. On the last day I finally visited a nice looking restaurant next to the beach, that all other days had 3+ young dirty men hanging around in the narrow alley in front of the entrance. Even though the village didn't feel unsafe, there was a lot of scruffy looking guys sitting around glaring at all the tourists. Sometimes that could feel a bit uncomfortable.

The hotel TV had 100+ channels, only two in English. Power outages happened almost every other evening. The "better" hotels and a couple of the bars had generators, but most restaurants didn't.

Most girls had their hair straightened or braided, which meant they used a lot of products. This made their hair either smell of chemicals of like dirt / dust, which was wasn't very nice. Service and performance wasn't really great either, but it was really cheap so it's hard to be very unhappy.

There's a great restaurant on the top of the island called "The View". It was newly opened by a very friendly French expat. Construction was being started on a hotel and condos. There was even a miniature golf course on the slope below the restaurant.

Some members on the board have claimed that you don't need any cash on arrival. That is not correct.

You have to pay €35 for the tourist "Visa" on entry, which cannot be paid in local currency. There is no ATM at the airport and if there still is a mandatory covid test it will cost 100 k Ariary, which has to be paid in cash. In the lounge and Tax-free area at the airport they only accept €uro, again only cash.

I found two ATM: s in the village. One next to the pharmacy inside the village which did not accept Mastercard, but Visa worked. The other ATM was across the street from Hotel Ambotoalaka and there I could use both types of cards.

Also, the hotel I was staying at only accepted cash, even though the booking site claimed you can pay with card. Withdrawing almost 1 k €uro from the ATMs was a bit of a hassle.

[QUOTE=Member#4673;2284438]I run a search on a keyword "Sambava" and got all the result about 20 pages. I used "Advanced search".[/QUOTE]This is the only forum in the world where posts are published with the date backwards!

[QUOTE=Oiste;2584234]This is the only forum in the world where posts are published with the date backwards![/QUOTE]Don't be so sure.

The date format is MM-DD-YYYY not DD-MM-YYYY as you seem to think it is.

[QUOTE=PussNet;2584413]Don't be so sure.

The date format is MM-DD-YYYY not DD-MM-YYYY as you seem to think it is.[/QUOTE]In virtually the whole world but one country the date format is DD-MM-YYYY. That same country still measures in Feet lbs and other archaic measurements. While the whole world uses metric.

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Sorry for my first post, I understand and I will write only in English.

Hi everyone, I'm Oiste from Santiago de Cuba.

I still haven't figured out if using Chrome what I write will be automatically translated into English, so as a precaution I'll add translation.

I am here because obviously I am very, very interested in the Mada. Cuba is dead, buried, dissolved in the wind. Personal opinion.

I go back only because I have children and I want to see them every now and then, but if it wasn't for them.

Madagascar! Ahhhhh! Okay, women aren't exactly as black as I like them, but I don't have the heart (or the money) to make Burkina Faso or Ivory Coast.

I am a man of 59 years, athletic (but still an old man), quiet (the discos bore me), with a budget of 900/1000 euros per month.

I don't work anymore, I love the sea reading and good food.

I don't have to remind you that I like pussy so much, but with a lot of free time, I don't have to kill the bear every day.

I read the whole forum backwards, I think I was impressed with the most important concepts.

Low profile, never argue, never get into trouble, never flaunt. Be friendly but NEVER friends with the locals. Rules valid everywhere.

I have a travel program but we are still in the era Covid, nothing is certain.

Last year I was going to leave but in October they closed the borders, so I returned to Cuba. Mamma mia.

My idea was to travel to Tana, then Tamatave, Saint Marie, Sambava, Morondava, Nosy Be (where I have contacts but I don't want to commit too much, for discretion).

From Nosy Be I would have returned to Italy. Ah, I'm Italian!

But now everything has changed and so, even if I don't like the idea, I could go directly with a flight a / are to Nosy Be, from there I could try to move. Perhaps.

I speak French worse than English, but I am studying the important things. Like: Comment tu t'appelles? Vous avez quel age? Tres petittttttttttttttttt ahahaha.

The idea is to do three months and then see what happens.

I wait that the borders reopen because I can not leave from Italy. But maybe. Some of you. Can advise me. Telling me secrets ahahahaha.

I wish you all a good evening, ahahahaha what a thugs!

[QUOTE=PussNet;2584413]Don't be so sure.

The date format is MM-DD-YYYY not DD-MM-YYYY as you seem to think it is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CrazyMan;2584427]In virtually the whole world but one country the date format is DD-MM-YYYY. That same country still measures in Feet lbs and other archaic measurements. While the whole world uses metric.[/QUOTE]If you go by international standards it should be either YYYY-MM-DD or DD-MM-YYYY ([URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country[/URL]). To my knowledge it is only ONE country in the World that uses the illogical MM-DD-YYYY! Either you should go from the smallest unit to the bigger unit or from the bigger unit to the smaller unit as in ISO 8601 ([URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601[/URL]).

[QUOTE=AdamVeden;2585917]If you go by international standards it should be either YYYY-MM-DD or DD-MM-YYYY ([URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country[/URL]). To my knowledge it is only ONE country in the World that uses the illogical MM-DD-YYYY! Either you should go from the smallest unit to the bigger unit or from the bigger unit to the smaller unit as in ISO 8601 ([URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601[/URL]).[/QUOTE]Sorry but I was not referring to the date but to the order of publication of the posts that in this forum (which is still wonderful!) Seems to me to appear the other way around. In any case it is not a problem, the problem is how to get to Madagascar!

[QUOTE=AdamVeden;2585917]If you go by international standards it should be either YYYY-MM-DD or DD-MM-YYYY ([URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country[/URL]). To my knowledge it is only ONE country in the World that uses the illogical MM-DD-YYYY! [/QUOTE]ISG has hit a new low, arguing about date formats, ah well. Better than American politics I suppose: smileyface:

Last night the President of Mada declared the border blockade for another 15 days, the problem is growing.

After 15 years of living in Cuba as a permanent resident, I started fantasizing about Mada at the wrong time.

From Italy you can't travel to Mada, I don't really know what I can do to carry out my 6-month project there. I would also go directly to Tana or Tulear or Tamatave but everything is at a standstill. Damnation.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2448017]If you RTFF then you know it's Kenya. Number one Destination for Africa rookies. Bamburi or Mtwapa. Mombasa North Coast for fucking. World Class beaches. Fishing go to Watamu or Ukunda/Diani. Madagascar is for advanced Africa mongers.

Read all my posts in the Kenyan forums. No need to look further.

Neddy.
What du you mean by aesthetically pleasing. LOL[/QUOTE]It is better to stay away from Kenya for someone like me, I could fall madly in love with one of those wonderful big ass monkeys.

Better the Mada where I can control myself. It's a matter of temperature and brain, for me, I mean.

It could well be 15 more weeks, in fact it is looking ever more likely. I have given up waiting and booked a couple of months in Mexico starting October. Unfortunately even if Mada opens up in December, I will probably just stick it out till next year when the rain and storms die down. I have my fingers crossed that something will be announced before that but it seems unlikely. They haven't even vaccinated one percent of the population for fucks sake.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2591118]It could well be 15 more weeks, in fact it is looking ever more likely. I have given up waiting and booked a couple of months in Mexico starting October. Unfortunately even if Mada opens up in December, I will probably just stick it out till next year when the rain and storms die down. I have my fingers crossed that something will be announced before that but it seems unlikely. They haven't even vaccinated one percent of the population for fucks sake.[/QUOTE]Yes, I think you are right but I want to hope well, the fact that they have vaccinated only 1% does not mean anything if then every 270 days you have to do yet another dose. Okay, I have faith.

[QUOTE=Oiste;2585309]Hi everyone, I'm Oiste from Santiago de Cuba...[/QUOTE]Oiste. Isn't Cuba an inexpensive pussy heaven with girls coming in all colors, sizes and types?

What is the reason you are willing to leave it all behind?

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2592775]Oiste. Isn't Cuba an inexpensive pussy heaven with girls coming in all colors, sizes and types?

What is the reason you are willing to leave it all behind?[/QUOTE]Oh sure, once.

Now it is a place that is gone and lost forever. Cubans are unique in the world but that world no longer exists. I tell you that I have been a permanent resident for 15 years. Aside from social destruction, the terrifying economic crisis (1 can of beer costs $ 5 if you are lucky to find it), political repression and black hunger, even Cubanites themselves are no longer the same. There is no longer that carefree air of a few years ago: people are hungry! Certainly you will find some **** but you will no longer pay 10 dollars as in the past because today, on the black market, a toothpaste costs 12 dollars. I don't know if I mean it. Madagascar has long been my constant thought, I committed last year not to leave in October and therefore now it is a problem. They say that maybe it will reopen soon but only for the vaccinated and I am not so demented as to be the Guinea pig for an alleged experimental gene cure. Give me the vaccination obligation and I will, at least I will receive compensation to pay the nurse if things go, and often go, badly. So I will grit my teeth and go back to Santiago for a couple of months and spend a little time with my daughter, then if the Mada reopens for me too. I go running there even with the monsoons. The Mada is an excellent opportunity for those like me, 60 years old and 1000 euros a month, without disco freaks and various parties, looking for a beautiful, cheap and relatively safe country.

Like it or not that is the way of the future (or at least the next year or 2 of it). You won't be going to many places if you refuse to get the jab. Of course you can always invest in fake documents, as some are already doing, but you may pay a steep price if caught. I am fully vaxed and welcome news of places that will open up for those of us who are.

[QUOTE=Oiste;2592848]Oh sure, once.

Now it is a place that is gone and lost forever. Cubans are unique in the world but that world no longer exists. I tell you that I have been a permanent resident for 15 years. Aside from social destruction, the terrifying economic crisis (1 can of beer costs $ 5 if you are lucky to find it), political repression and black hunger, even Cubanites themselves are no longer the same. There is no longer that carefree air of a few years ago: people are hungry! Certainly you will find some **** but you will no longer pay 10 dollars as in the past because today, on the black market, a toothpaste costs 12 dollars. I don't know if I mean it. Madagascar has long been my constant thought, I committed last year not to leave in October and therefore now it is a problem. They say that maybe it will reopen soon but only for the vaccinated and I am not so demented as to be the Guinea pig for an alleged experimental gene cure. Give me the vaccination obligation and I will, at least I will receive compensation to pay the nurse if things go, and often go, badly. So I will grit my teeth and go back to Santiago for a couple of months and spend a little time with my daughter, then if the Mada reopens for me too. I go running there even with the monsoons. The Mada is an excellent opportunity for those like me, 60 years old and 1000 euros a month, without disco freaks and various parties, looking for a beautiful, cheap and relatively safe country.[/QUOTE]5 $ for a can of beer. LE President would be swept from power tomorrow in Madagascar. LOL. Just recently he dismissed ALL ministers for non performance. He might not survive if he continues this idiotic policy of total isolation. The malgache in that regard have a rather short fuse. Same as in India. You can choose die of covid or hunger. Look at it this way. Loads of hotels are going bust or went bust. Loads of assets to snap up cheap. Don't worry Oiste you can live comfortably in most SSA African countries with 1000 $ pension a month. In Kenya you're Middle class. Sure Madagascar is probably best for cheap pussy. But. Decent housing for a good price is not so easy to come by. Residence Permit can be hard to obtain. And don't forget. Its an Island although a big one. Its not like Kenya where I can take the bus to Uganda or Rwanda.

Pussy? Its the least of all problems to find chicas for 10 $ a pop. Healthcare is another issue.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2593296]5 $ for a can of beer. LE President would be swept from power tomorrow in Madagascar. LOL. Just recently he dismissed ALL ministers for non performance. He might not survive if he continues this idiotic policy of total isolation. The malgache in that regard have a rather short fuse. Same as in India. You can choose die of covid or hunger. Look at it this way. Loads of hotels are going bust or went bust. Loads of assets to snap up cheap. Don't worry Oiste you can live comfortably in most SSA African countries with 1000 $ pension a month. In Kenya you're Middle class. Sure Madagascar is probably best for cheap pussy. But. Decent housing for a good price is not so easy to come by. Residence Permit can be hard to obtain. And don't forget. Its an Island although a big one. Its not like Kenya where I can take the bus to Uganda or Rwanda.

Pussy? Its the least of all problems to find chicas for 10 $ a pop. Healthcare is another issue.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]Hi Neddy,

Thanks for the reply. Surely I have the false idea that Madagascar is a relatively quiet place for those who, like me, don't go to night clubs / discos and things like that. Honestly, it is all of Africa that interests me (I was sexually weaned by a Nigerian when I was 18 years of age) but I am a lone traveler and after 15 years of quiet residence in Cuba, where security has been absolute up to now, fear holds me back a little. I never get noticed but Africa is Africa and it takes little to never go home. I had to choose would be Ghana, with those huge women that I adore, and a certain stability, but it has shocking prices. Looking at Airbnb I got a fever! So I stay focused on Mada, Nosy Be is sad but it's okay as a first step. But it depends on the opening of the borders and on the obligation or not of the covid vaccination. If it is compulsory it will mean that I will die in Cuba, at least there I am not bummed.

Sorry mate, but the way things are going, looks like you will die in Cuba. With the big push on for vaccination passports I don't see how you can avoid it.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2594279]Sorry mate, but the way things are going, looks like you will die in Cuba. With the big push on for vaccination passports I don't see how you can avoid it.[/QUOTE]I beg to disagree. The RT PCR Test will still be required. I don't know of a single African country which requires to be vaccined. RT PCR will still be required wherever you go. IMHO Airlines who let you you board only vaccinated shoot themselves in the foot like Quantas (I couldn't care less). Within the EEUU and US the vaccine facilitates travel WITHIN. Wouldn't make sense in most African countries where a couple of percent are actually vaccinated. And anyway vaccination doesn't change the contagion rates. So. Vaccination (might) protect you from a serious lung infection. Might. Wash your hands with mild soap and wear surgical mask while indoors in crowded places. The rest is BS. Malaria is way more a killer. that is if you don't know what you're doing. And traffic.
Neddy
Who survived malaria, covid and scabies in the last 12 months.

Neddy,

I don't know where you are but perhaps because I am currently in Canada I see everything through western eyes and media. And there is a huge push on for vaccination and vaccine proof. And it will not be the airlines making these decisions, it will be countries, and many of them will follow whatever the west does blindly. Just because African countries have no traveler vaccine policy does not mean they won't adopt one in a month or a year from now. I don't know how this shitshow will all turn out but I hope it is going to get better sooner than later.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2594479]I beg to disagree. The rest is BS.[/QUOTE]This from NPR, pro-vax MSM propaganda site: Importantly, Walensky noted that data from Israel suggests "increased risk of severe disease amongst those vaccinated early."

That is from the CDC Director, regarding data coming out of Israel. ADE anybody?

[URL]https://www.wxxinews.org/post/covid-booster-shots-are-coming-heres-what-you-need-know[/URL]

[QUOTE=DickMilhous;2594683]This from NPR, pro-vax MSM propaganda site: Importantly, Walensky noted that data from Israel suggests "increased risk of severe disease amongst those vaccinated early."

That is from the CDC Director, regarding data coming out of Israel. ADE anybody?

[URL]https://www.wxxinews.org/post/covid-booster-shots-are-coming-heres-what-you-need-know[/URL][/QUOTE]That's why a booster vac come soon, especially for those vaccinated early. Same as rabies, you need more than three within 4 weeks, a booster after 1 year.

Recent studies show vaccinated people are as infectious as others. So to protect one's people it is necessary to demand PCR tests from tourists.

Vaccines aside, the issue is what happens if you do get sick -- from covid or whatever. The Pasteur Institute in Tana is a trip back to the 1930's. It's like a museum. For anything serious, you have to get to Reunion -- as fast as you can. And if a PCR negative test is required, well then, good luck. But if you don't have the cash, you just tough it out sick as a dog in your cheap shack hotel, shake it off and cure yourself of malaria, covid or whatever telling yourself you're Africa-experienced.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2595322]Recent studies show vaccinated people are as infectious as others. So to protect one's people it is necessary to demand PCR tests from tourists.[/QUOTE]Okay, what "studies"?

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2595397]Okay, what "studies"?[/QUOTE]Unless you think Johns Hopkins is "fake news". [URL]https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/new-data-on-covid-19-transmission-by-vaccinated-individuals[/URL].

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2595397]Okay, what "studies"?[/QUOTE][URL]https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/new-data-on-covid-19-transmission-by-vaccinated-individuals[/URL]

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2595362]But if you don't have the cash,[/QUOTE]If you have a few bucks and access to primary care to get meds, two things I presently do.

First, every time I go into under developed nations I have a good supply of Doxycycline 100 MG caps and take one a day, just like a vitamin. Doxy is cheap, very well tolerated and benign (often prescribed to teenagers to be taken for years to treat acne). Doxy is an effective anti malarial, is curative for chlamydia and has at least marginal efficacy against gonorrhea.

Second, I have a weeks worth pack of ivermectin, dexamethasone and montelukast. All three drugs have been around for a very long time and very well tolerated, very safe. Ivermectin in particular has several meta-analyses demonstrating excellent efficacy in treating the Wu-Flu. I start to feeling flu like or respiratory symptoms esp with a fever and I'm going to start popping ivermectin et al. Daily vitamin dee supplement also strongly suggested.

All of these drugs are generally very inexpensive; they all have been around for a half century or longer and all are off patent. I pay about $10 per Rx here at my local Sam's club pharmacy.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2595577][URL]https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/new-data-on-covid-19-transmission-by-vaccinated-individuals[/URL][/QUOTE]Nice link, thank you. Notably, IMO, health care pros here in the USA are disproportionately "vax hesitant". Those in good health / general population are at extremely low risk for mortality and morbidity can be dramatically reduced by early intervention with drugs like ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, and some effective anti-inflammatories (eg corticosteroids, respiratory tract meds which I use dexamethasone and montelukast for).

Of course, Fraudci along with Pfizer, J&J, Astrazeneca and Moderna do not want you to know that, especially now that for example Moderna has added about 150 billion in market cap (currently $155 Billion) since the Wu Flu was developed.

Is it a thread about vaccination and Covid? No.

If you don't want the vacc-- you will just not get into Mada one day. But who cares?

If you got it. Just hang on.

And now if you have stories or info on Mada. Tell us. Otherwise.

The first flight from Paris with 170 people having a special visa plus residents just landed 2 days ago. If anyone got "connections" to a travel / visa agent in Paris or Tana. Pm me.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2595749]If you don't want the vacc-- you will just not get into Mada [/QUOTE]Please provide a link that supports this.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2595749]The first flight from Paris with [/QUOTE]Last month when I transit from Addis to Mombasa I heard announcement about flight to Tana boarding now. Ethiopian website already sell tickets to Nosy Be, first flight next week.

[QUOTE=DickMilhous;2595917]Please provide a link that supports this.[/QUOTE]We talk about future travel. Perhaps in 2022.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2596045]Last month when I transit from Addis to Mombasa I heard announcement about flight to Tana boarding now. Ethiopian website already sell tickets to Nosy Be, first flight next week.[/QUOTE]If Ethiopian airlines is selling the tickets its not means you can fly. Mada is still close.

Borders open to travelers: Under conditions.

Domestic flights are operational. International flights, previously authorized to enter and exit Nosy Be, are suspended; entry into Madagascar remains prohibited.

Entry is limited to diplomats, technicians working in strategic sectors and officials with special mission orders.

A negative COVID-19 test (PCR and / or serology) is required for entry.

Health screening procedures in place at airports and other points of entry.

Anyone arriving in Madagascar will be tested and should be quarantined for a period of up to 5 days until results are available.

The previous policy of allowing free visa extensions has ended. Currently, people with a tourist visa must purchase a ticket to leave Madagascar, then go to the immigration office or Ivato airport to obtain a stamp allowing them to stay until the date of departure. Their return ticket. Only Air France currently operates extraordinary flights from Madagascar. Please contact Air France to obtain a ticket.

Tests: Negative PCR test results are required for all countries.

Quarantine: Yes.

Anyone arriving in Madagascar should be quarantined for a maximum of 5 days, until the results are available.

Information updated on 8/19/2021.

The state of health emergency is renewed throughout the country for 15 days from Monday 23 August 2021.

- The borders remain closed for passengers coming from abroad.

- Wearing a mask and respecting barrier gestures are still required throughout the country.

- Indoor gatherings of more than 400 people are prohibited.

Source: Press release from the Presidency of the Republic of Madagascar dated August 22, 2021.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2596270]The state of health emergency is renewed throughout the country for 15 days from Monday 23 August 2021.

- The borders remain closed for passengers coming from abroad.

- Wearing a mask and respecting barrier gestures are still required throughout the country.

- Indoor gatherings of more than 400 people are prohibited.

Source: Press release from the Presidency of the Republic of Madagascar dated August 22, 2021.[/QUOTE]Excellent sum up. Just few add ONS:

In an article of L'Express I did read that Malgache arriving with full vaccination must have a PCR Test but don't need a quarantine.

Foreigners who got stuck there can go to the next immigration office and get their visa extended, just paying the visa fee. 2 of my friends are doing this since March.

The president is busy getting his messed up act together. For us still a long way till we can enjoy this again:

[QUOTE=DickMilhous;2595917]Please provide a link that supports this.[/QUOTE]Mauritius, a tourism-dependent economy, will reopen its borders on Thursday to vaccinated tourists after being closed for 16 months. Source: [URL]bloomberg.com[/URL].

Expect the neighbour island Mada to apply this restriction of being vaccinated as well.

I was actually considering heading to Mauritius to wait for Mada to open, and now apparently I can do that. Only problem is Mauritius is way more expensive and has way less pussy so I don't know if it is worth it. Got to be better than winter in Canada though!

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2596686]Mauritius, a tourism-dependent economy, will reopen its borders on Thursday to vaccinated tourists after being closed for 16 months. Source: [URL]bloomberg.com[/URL].

Expect the neighbour island Mada to apply this restriction of being vaccinated as well.[/QUOTE]As from 1 September, vaccinated guests will spend only 7 days in a special 'resort bubble' hotel before going out to discover more of the Indian Ocean paradise.

[URL]https://www.traveldailymedia.com/mauritius-eases-travel-protocol-for-vaccinated-travellers-from-1-september/[/URL]

Madagascar: opening of borders for October 2021 is under consideration.

On an official visit to France, Andry Rajoelina announced a possible opening of the Malagasy borders for all foreigners. Access to Madagascar has been extremely limited since March 2020, a year and a half ago, when the coronavirus epidemic began on the island.

Opening of the borders yes, but on one condition: that the health situation allows it.

If the coronavirus epidemic has been on the low slope for a few weeks, according to official government figures, two doctors in two hospitals in the capital confirm this downward trend, three months after the second wave of Covid.

Also according to official accounts, 43,000 people have been infected and 955 have died from the coronavirus since March 2020.

The executive has always brandished the specter of the Delta variant to justify this prolonged border closure, in the face of the incomprehension of the entire private sector, which received no aid during the crisis.

Also according to official accounts, 43,000 people have been infected and 955 have died from the coronavirus since March 2020.

The executive has always brandished the specter of the Delta variant to justify this prolonged border closure, in the face of the incomprehension of the entire private sector, which received no aid during the crisis.

According to the Groupement des entreprises de Madagascar, 80% of Malagasy companies have seen the business climate deteriorate in two years. And the sector has lost almost 40% of its turnover.

Tourism, which represents 7% of GDP and supports nearly a million people across the entire value chain, lost 800 million turnover in 2021. "The State and businesses must learn to live with it. Virus and to put in place protocols so that activities can resume, explains an entrepreneur who prefers to remain anonymous. Closing the borders only pushes back the problem.

[URL]https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.rfi.fr/fr/afrique/20210826-madagascar-l-ouverture-des-fronti%25C3%25A8res-pour-octobre-2021-est-%25C3%25A0-l-%25C3%25A9tude[/URL]

The reopening of Madagascar's borders scheduled for October.

Thursday August 26.

Mandimbisoa are.

The reopening of Madagascar's borders to international travelers is under consideration. Andry Rajoelina brought forward the date of October during the second day of the Meeting of French-speaking entrepreneurs in Paris, yesterday. He said, however, that this will depend on the evolution of the health situation in other countries. Restrictions for countries still affected by the epidemiological wave could still be felt.

"The reopening of our borders requires serious preparations and solid support measures. We have launched a vaccination campaign among the population of Nosy Be and Sainte-Marie ", he declared. Tourist towns like Nosy Be and Sainte-Marie are practically in agony since the closure of borders and the health crisis. The reopening of borders to tourists can breathe new life into it. These two cities are particularly dependent on tourism and the cessation of activities has had a real impact on the daily life of the population.

Madagascar has acquired a new international airport which is not operational to date. The representative of the Aéroport de Paris group, which manages the airports of Antananarivo and Nosy Be, through Ravinala Airports, insisted on the importance of reopening the borders. The viability of the aviation sector and the operationalization of this new terminal at the capital's airport go hand in hand with the reopening of borders, he said.

During this REF 2021, Andry Rajoelina stepped up charm operations for investors. "Madagascar is the strategic hub for your business," he said. The State thus provides incentives such as offers of preferential taxes for exports to attract more investors.

[URL]https://www.madagascar-tribune.com/La-reouverture-des-frontieres-de-Madagascar-prevue-en-octobre.html[/URL]

I don't think I will be booking a flight just yet. I suspect they will not have things ready for October (5 weeks away?) if it is going to be done properly. Then there will be PCR tests, possible quarantines, and initially at least, only 2 test destinations. I do not care for Nosy Be and St. Marie will get old very fast. If you have been there you will know what I mean. That said if it takes off with few / no restrictions I will be happy to jump on board. Guess we will just have to keep waiting and see how it unfolds.

[URL]https://lexpress.mg/26/08/2021/transport-aerien-la-reouverture-des-frontieres-prevue-en-octobre/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tinte;2599547][URL]https://lexpress.mg/26/08/2021/transport-aerien-la-reouverture-des-frontieres-prevue-en-octobre/[/URL][/QUOTE]Good, you will get the opportunity to post your first ISG report.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2599547][URL]https://lexpress.mg/26/08/2021/transport-aerien-la-reouverture-des-frontieres-prevue-en-octobre/[/URL][/QUOTE]Mid January. Hell yeah. If tou want to experience a tropical cyclone with wind speeds of 200 kmh plus. Go ahead. The malagasy IMHO are much more afraid of foreign germs than their own. They have it all. Pestilence and Cholera. Malaria and Typhoid. But they're scared shitless of Covid. Hunger and malnutrition is killing far more people then Covid ever will. IMHO the opening in October is just a pipe dream. They think they can out-sit it and wipe out the remains of the tourist industry. Plan for 2022. For me Madagascar is a write off this year.

Neddy.

Things would bee very different.

If you follow the gassy news in this links, it can easy scare one anyway. Tourist will be targets of all sort of people. Not just the girls will bee after you.

What a adventure lies ahead.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2599566] They think they can out-sit it and wipe out the remains of the tourist industry.
Neddy.[/QUOTE]I a country with no support by the government for the tourist industries it will by wiped out after two years one would assume. Looks like no protest so far.

No tourists, no work, no income, no tax to bee collected for the politicians for them self. To me a mystery.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2599939]I a country with no support by the government for the tourist industries it will by wiped out after two years one would assume. Looks like no protest so far.

No tourists, no work, no income, no tax to bee collected for the politicians for them self. To me a mystery.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/english.alarabiya.net/amp/coronavirus/2021/03/06/Protests-Hundreds-protest-against-Madagascar-government-claiming-COVID-19-fund-mismanagement[/URL]

Thats from June 2021:

Universities nationwide following violent demonstrations at multiple locations June 16-17. Demonstrations by students were reported at the University of Maninday in Toliara, June 16 and at the University of Fianarantsoa in Fianarantsoa June 17. In Fianarantsoa, demonstrations reportedly escalated after security forces arrested several student leaders. Casualties were reported. Protests are linked to the lack of payment of bursaries and scholarships.

Andry was an extremely popular president when he was elected. Now its a different story. His downfall can come swift. If the cotieres withdraw their support. No protests? Don't kid yourself. Everybody steals from the government coffers. The biggest grafters are high in the government.

They siphon off foreign aid. For many African governments the perfect opportunity to whine to IMF and China to get debt relief by damaging their economy through useless lockdowns.

When they built the RN9 up to Mangily they had to guard the bridges at night as people were stealing the iron rebars out of the wet concrete.

Neddy

You are right. The tourism industry IS wiped out. Zero support. even back in 2015 I could lease a whole beachfront resort for 600$ a month in Mangily. No customers back then

I spent June of this year in Rio, although I had fun, I agree Mada 2022 is the goal. Nothing else matches my expectations and pleasure seeking than Madagascar!

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2601517] Nothing else matches my expectations and pleasure seeking than Madagascar![/QUOTE]Its a place where you can go diskret for almost everything like on a buffet. I remember the with ease free performed BJ in the street by a girl ho approached me and wanted me to convince to take her home.

La Peste returns to Isle Rouge. Pulmonary variant. Expiry guaranteed if not recognized and treated immediately.

[URL]https://www.linfo.re/ocean-indien/madagascar/peste-pulmonaire-plusieurs-cas-identifies-a-madagascar[/URL]

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2603768]La Peste returns to Isle Rouge. Pulmonary variant. Expiry guaranteed if not recognized and treated immediately.

[URL]https://www.linfo.re/ocean-indien/madagascar/peste-pulmonaire-plusieurs-cas-identifies-a-madagascar[/URL]
La Buse.[/QUOTE]Lose touch with reality and you forget there is no infrastructure here. Get sick and you're dead. And while you're chasing the fantasy, you'd have experienced the real Madagascar.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2603793] Get sick and you're dead.[/QUOTE]I may add: get sick and don't make a very quick move to leave Mada -and you're history.

Latest news: the plans to open in October are. As expected. Cancelled. No new date in sight:

[URL]https://lexpress.mg/25/09/2021/transport-aerien-la-reouverture-des-frontieres-serieusement-compromise/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2608213]Latest news: the plans to open in October are. As expected. Cancelled. No new date in sight:

[URL]https://lexpress.mg/25/09/2021/transport-aerien-la-reouverture-des-frontieres-serieusement-compromise/[/URL][/QUOTE]I give up already waiting for mada reopens and last week bought fly ticket to Colombia instead for beginning of November I could resist when saw discount from Barcelona direct fly to Bogota with Avianca just for 163 euros one way will stay 2-3 month in Colombia and after maybe mada shows some new signs about reopening it can't be closed forever.

No, but it is starting to feel that way. I am heading to Mexico until April. Hopefully come June when the shit weather eases off things will be somewhat back to normal.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2608368]I give up already waiting for mada reopens and last week bought fly ticket to Colombia instead for beginning of November I could resist when saw discount from Barcelona direct fly to Bogota with Avianca just for 163 euros one way will stay 2-3 month in Colombia and after maybe mada shows some new signs about reopening it can't be closed forever.[/QUOTE]Barcelona. Bogota 163 euros?

Can you give me the link please because I can't find this price on the Avianca website, thanks.

[QUOTE=Oiste;2608573]Barcelona. Bogota 163 euros?

Can you give me the link please because I can't find this price on the Avianca website, thanks.[/QUOTE]I use skyscanner app not all dates have same cheap price anymore. Now as I see cheapest ticket left for November 8 213 euros one way all other dates gone.

They found the body of a Belgian in a sewer in Majunga. Apparently he was decapitated and missing a leg. His wife, parents in law and the guard have been arrested.

[URL]https://newsmada.com/2021/10/05/meurtre-dun-belge-a-mahajanga-sa-concubine-et-5-autres-personnes-arretees/[/URL]

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2612200]They found the body of a Belgian in a sewer in Majunga. Apparently he was decapitated and missing a leg. His wife, parents in law and the guard have been arrested.

[URL]https://newsmada.com/2021/10/05/meurtre-dun-belge-a-mahajanga-sa-concubine-et-5-autres-personnes-arretees/[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow poor guy. Hope it was quick.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2612200]They found the body of a Belgian in a sewer in Majunga. Apparently he was decapitated and missing a leg. His wife, parents in law and the guard have been arrested.

[URL]https://newsmada.com/2021/10/05/meurtre-dun-belge-a-mahajanga-sa-concubine-et-5-autres-personnes-arretees/[/URL][/QUOTE]What a sad story, he found love at 68. Fuck! I still need 9 and then zac! Where is it? Where?

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2612200]They found the body of a Belgian in a sewer in Majunga. Apparently he was decapitated and missing a leg. His wife, parents in law and the guard have been arrested.

[URL]https://newsmada.com/2021/10/05/meurtre-dun-belge-a-mahajanga-sa-concubine-et-5-autres-personnes-arretees/[/URL][/QUOTE]"Following the testimony, six people suspected of Richard's murder were arrested, including his partner, his parents-in-law and the keeper of the house. ".

I wonder what could've motivated such a savagery the severe mutilation of the body. Fady?

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2612949]"Following the testimony, six people suspected of Richard's murder were arrested, including his partner, his parents-in-law and the keeper of the house. ".

I wonder what could've motivated such a savagery the severe mutilation of the body. Fady?[/QUOTE]Nothing to do with fady. Maybe some body parts were cut to facilitate transportation. Fits better in a trunk. A dutch millionaire was killed 2 years ago in Kenya. His body was packed in a barrel which then was put into a septic tank. To make it easier both his legs and head was cut to fit.

If you read french there's a couple of cases killed every year in Madagascar. A French men was killed by his gardener for the sake of a couple of used laptops he wanted to sell.

Neddy.

Stick to my rules and you live safe.

In Madagascar poor white people are called vazaha lany mofo. Literally white bread eater.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2613546]Nothing to do with fady. Maybe some body parts were cut to facilitate transportation. Fits better in a trunk. A dutch millionaire was killed 2 years ago in Kenya. His body was packed in a barrel which then was put into a septic tank. To make it easier both his legs and head was cut to fit.

If you read french there's a couple of cases killed every year in Madagascar. A French men was killed by his gardener for the sake of a couple of used laptops he wanted to sell.

Neddy.

Stick to my rules and you live safe.

In Madagascar poor white people are called vazaha lany mofo. Literally white bread eater.[/QUOTE]Is there such a thing as a "poor white people" in Madagascar? Even the poorest pensioners who may get only few hundred dollars a month are already receive more than 90% of the population. In a country where most people make $30 to $40 a month.

Maybe the vazaha lany mofo has another meaning to it, something to do with the belief that those who don't eat rice are considered to be barbarians?

Are these the rules you are refereeing to?

1. Thou shalt not marry.

2. Thou shalt not take a live in girl friend.

3. Thou shalt trust nobody.

4. Thou shalt not buy land or property.

5. Thou shalt not make any kind of business.

6. Thou shalt lock up all your valuables at all times.

7. Thou shalt never drink alcohol in excess.

8. Thou shalt never walk in the dark.

9. Thou shalt negotiate the price in advance.

10. Thou shalt never fall in love.

Until now not really interesting but better than nothing. Madagascar will Re-open it's borders step by step, starting with regional flights. Later Air France and Air Madagascar will offer flights to Europe.

[URL]https://lexpress.mg/14/10/2021/tourisme-fin-du-purgatoire/[/URL]

Odd I did not see any mention of required vaccination, fully or otherwise. Did I miss something or is it not going to be necessary. Have to say I would be quite surprised if they just let it slide after a year and a half of isolation. Unfortunately they are going to start opening just as hurricane season arrives. I am guessing this process will develop hiccups along the way and there will be a few steps back as they try to figure things out. I am going to just say fuck it till next year summer time (northern hemisphere summertime!

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2614622]Unfortunately they are going to start opening just as hurricane season arrives.[/QUOTE]December is perfect in Tana and Nosy. Jan is another story start to be a pain.

Vaxxed, tested and depends of country of origin an after arriving quarantine. It was mention in the article and will bee so. Looking good for end of November?

[QUOTE=Tinte;2614797]Vaxxed, tested and depends of country of origin an after arriving quarantine. It was mention in the article and will bee so. Looking good for end of November?[/QUOTE]They saying here from beginning of November.

[URL]https://actu.orange.mg/madagascar-rouvre-progressivement-ses-frontieres-aeriennes/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tinte;2614797]Vaxxed, tested and depends of country of origin an after arriving quarantine. It was mention in the article and will bee so. Looking good for end of November?[/QUOTE]No thanks with those kind of rules. This is going to generate a nice shakedown industry for the constabulary, who by now will be hungry hunting vazaha.

Nothing wrong with those rules as long as you qualify and have all the requisite documentation. 1 night quarantine and a 25 dollar test? That is nothing compared to what some countries are currently doing, and likely will be doing in the near future. The local constabulary will have the same opportunity to ding you as they currently do if you don't have your passport with you. Frankly worth the opportunity considering you MAY be hit a couple of times for 5 or 10 K. I can handle that over a stretch of 2-3 months. Hopefully the dolts in charge of immigration will bring back the 3 month VOA. I will be content to sit here in Mexico until December and see how things go.

The article says PCR test on arrival. Quarantine between 24 an 48 hours pending test results. If positive 14-day quarantine.

[URL]https://lexpress.mg/14/10/2021/tourisme-fin-du-purgatoire/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tinte;2614947][URL]https://lexpress.mg/14/10/2021/tourisme-fin-du-purgatoire/[/URL][/QUOTE]Forget it. Too late. The flights are booked solid already by returning expats and malgache. Unless you like to pay moon prices. At least till December. Further you have to read the fine print There will be a red list, which is not published yet. When its out and your country is on it. Game over. EVEN if you have a valid ticket. The next issue. It would not be the first time that the malgache government retracts everything again if they see rising cases. Be prepared to get stuck in paradise?

Neddy.

Who's looking realistically at April 2022 after cyclone season.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2614920]Nothing wrong with those rules as long as you qualify and have all the requisite documentation. 1 night quarantine and a 25 dollar test? That is nothing compared to what some countries are currently doing, and likely will be doing in the near future. I will be content to sit here in Mexico until December and see how things go.[/QUOTE]It opens when it opens. Meanwhile no restrictions for Colombia or Mexico. So many places in Mexico where you actually enjoy being there where as Madagascar's got the only one thing going for it. If you're really broke or terminally on the cheap, try Tuxtla, or anywhere in Chiapas.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2614990]It opens when it opens. Meanwhile no restrictions for Colombia or Mexico. So many places in Mexico where you actually enjoy being there where as Madagascar's got the only one thing going for it. If you're really broke or terminally on the cheap, try Tuxtla, or anywhere in Chiapas.[/QUOTE]LOL So true and Bogota to DR or Bogota to Mexico city is only 100 USD one way so I am using Bogota as a hub to explore.

Regarding to Mada there is one advantage only above all those countries you can get a GF and spend unlimited time with her without calculating the time. Other than that Mada is garbage.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2615014] Other than that Mada is garbage.[/QUOTE]I had a unforgettable time in many ways, but sure you have to fit in.

Hi at all,

The borders open officialy at the 6th of November. I get the official confirmation yesterday.

Go early or wait. The raining time is December until March.

[URL]https://weather.com/de-DE/reisen/beste-reisezeit/news/madagaskars-beste-reisezeit-so-wird-der-urlaub-einzigartig[/URL]

[QUOTE=FatLonelyMan;2615435]Hi at all,

The borders open officialy at the 6th of November. I get the official confirmation yesterday.

Go early or wait. The raining time is December until March.

[URL]https://weather.com/de-DE/reisen/beste-reisezeit/news/madagaskars-beste-reisezeit-so-wird-der-urlaub-einzigartig[/URL][/QUOTE]You're a wee bit late mate. I got this information already 2240 hrs October 13th by my agent network.

No problem. Hop on a 2000 $ flight. Don't forget to bring Doxycycline for the pneumonic plague.

La Buse.

May we know whether you have been to Madagascar? Would you please share the experience of your trip in Madagascar?

[QUOTE=NIO400;2615014] Other than that Mada is garbage. [/QUOTE]

Don't be so scary to the easily faint heart People. Neddy! Health risk issues are just as they used to bee.

My agent just confirmed me a Air France flight for 1100 Euros that fits a low budget too.

Mora mora. Salama.

Inshalla.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2615522] Air France flight for 1100 Euros that fits a low budget too.[/QUOTE]1100 EURO is Low budget? Dir Jeff Bezos why you pretend to be called Tinte?

Tinte! Get some fresh air out of Mom basement.

I have heard that the whole country is not raining in November, through January. Certain parts of the country are dry. Is mada one of those.

Countries where you need a return flight out. I heard there was an app for making fake reservations. Can someone please inform me on this? I am really anxious to to. Might even look for work there. Guess its time to start learning French.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2615542]I have heard that the whole country is not raining in November, through January. Certain parts of the country are dry. Is mada one of those.

Countries where you need a return flight out. I heard there was an app for making fake reservations. Can someone please inform me on this? I am really anxious to to. Might even look for work there. Guess its time to start learning French.[/QUOTE]Better stay at home in front of your TV and watch National Geographic. It's safe there. I see already you have ZERO clue. Working in Mada? As what? Pousse pousse driver?

If you overstay your visa you'll deported and land in jail. You have three months maximum.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2615522]Don't be so scary to the easily faint heart People. Neddy! Health risk issues are just as they used to bee.

My agent just confirmed me a Air France flight for 1100 Euros that fits a low budget too.

Mora mora. Salama.

Inshalla.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Health issues are just as they used to be:

Malaria.

Plague.

Cholera.

Typhoid.

Viral eye infection.

Syphilis.

Scabies.

The common malgache shits.

Just to name the few most common.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2615014]. Other than that Mada is garbage.[/QUOTE]Your backyard also got a lot of garbage. No difference then to Mada.

(No one benefits from simply throwing stones at others whilst overlooking the fact that we ourselves sometimes sit in glass houses).

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2615567]Better stay at home in front of your TV and watch National Geographic. It's safe there. I see already you have ZERO clue. Working in Mada? As what? Pousse pousse driver?

If you overstay your visa you'll deported and land in jail. You have three months maximum.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]

Some people have skills that others find valuable. FWIW, not my first time in Africa. No need to be insulting. Just wanted to get some information. Respectfully.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2615568]Exactly.


The common malgache shits.



La Buse.[/QUOTE]After reading your fine reports I would have assumed you had a great time too.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2615671]After reading your fine reports I would have assumed you had a great time too.[/QUOTE]Of course. LOL. But you'll suffer. Read some old travel accounts. When the French invaded in 1895:

25 killed in combat.

6,000 died of disease.

When Count Benyowski tried to establish a colony all colonists were dead within 6 months.

The island is best suited to pirates, fugitives, ex legionnaires, soldiers of fortune, outlaws. You'll feel like you're in paradise. Pussies stay at home.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2615658]Some people have skills that others find valuable. FWIW, not my first time in Africa. No need to be insulting. Just wanted to get some information. Respectfully.[/QUOTE]If you want information buy the Bradt and work through the WHOLE Madagascar subforum. Like I did. Then book a flight and go there. Spend 10.000 USD. Then you will on a par with the information and contacts I have. Why should I share everything for free. Pay me 100 $ an hour than you save yourself a couple of 1000 bucks.

This forum is not for lazy bums, who expect to get information which cost me 10 of thousands of dollars to obtain to be handed on a silver platter. I know how to get a work permit and a residence permit. If you don't follow the exact procedure you'll never get it. And no. That's not the official way. But if you read every post of mine very careful you'll eventually find it.

So start digging in the forum. Yes. Madagascar. You have to earn it to live there.

La Buse.

I thought I had I had seen the light this weekend. I was going to travel around Mada on a motorbike. At first it seemed like a great idea. The advantages are numerous:

1. No time constraints with flights / taxi-brousses. You can come / go whenever you like.

2. Ability to get off the beaten track and see places which you otherwise would not because of logistics.

2. Not having to backpedal to Tana every time but instead travel alternative routes around the country.

3. No suffering in crowded taxi-brousses.

4. No sweating. You are outside in open air.

Until I realised that the area I wanted to cruise in (Androy / Anosy) is largely a 'zone rouge' meaning they are part of the 1/3 of the country where there is near no government presence / authority and where Dahalo rustlers roam the countryside. The chances of us meeting them in the cities we visit are near zero but we tend to forget they are there.

Also there is a serious famine in the south now in the area between Tulear and Fort Dauphin. People are dying.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2615763]I thought I had I had seen the light this weekend. I was going to travel around Mada on a motorbike. At first it seemed like a great idea. The advantages are numerous:

1. No time constraints with flights / taxi-brousses. You can come / go whenever you like.

2. Ability to get off the beaten track and see places which you otherwise would not because of logistics.

2. Not having to backpedal to Tana every time but instead travel alternative routes around the country.

3. No suffering in crowded taxi-brousses.

4. No sweating. You are outside in open air.

Until I realised that the area I wanted to cruise in (Androy / Anosy) is largely a 'zone rouge' meaning they are part of the 1/3 of the country where there is near no government presence / authority and where Dahalo rustlers roam the countryside. The chances of us meeting them in the cities we visit are near zero but we tend to forget they are there.

Also there is a serious famine in the south now in the area between Tulear and Fort Dauphin. People are dying.[/QUOTE]Don't worry. There's a madman who did the trip through the zone rouge on a BICYCLE and actually lived to tell the tale:

[URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2021/09/10/along-the-road-of-tears[/URL]

Actually what you plan is quite feasible as long as the route you choose is not too extreme. For example Tulear Morombe or even Morondave. But in dry season of course. To import your own bike is prohibitive. But there's an excellent Chinese bike which is sold under the brand name New Mada. Brand new I believe around 1000 $ new. I am not a biker myself. But I know plenty of bikers, mostly French men. Just avoid the too extreme tracks. I know of a French man who disappeared in the brousse with his bike never to be seen again.

La Buse

Who's more into 4×4 and the good old Renault 4....

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2615700]Of course. LOL. But you'll suffer. Read some old travel accounts. When the French invaded in 1895:

25 killed in combat.

6,000 died of disease.

When Count Benyowski tried to establish a colony all colonists were dead within 6 months.

The island is best suited to pirates, fugitives, ex legionnaires, soldiers of fortune, outlaws. You'll feel like you're in paradise. Pussies stay at home.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]

I take the outlaw ()

With respect, you repeat your self and as for me as you might remember, I have been in Mada bevor. It is the matter whether I can travel or not and what Corona has made out of Mada its self. The first set up program will therefor appear rather on the boring side of possibility.

Tana - Toamasina by cotisse and back. No panganales canal etc.

Inspired ?

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2615703]If you want information buy the Bradt and work through the WHOLE Madagascar subforum. Like I did. Then book a flight and go there. Spend 10.000 USD. Then you will on a par with the information and contacts I have. Why should I share everything for free. Pay me 100 $ an hour than you save yourself a couple of 1000 bucks.

This forum is not for lazy bums, who expect to get information which cost me 10 of thousands of dollars to obtain to be handed on a silver platter. I know how to get a work permit and a residence permit. If you don't follow the exact procedure you'll never get it. And no. That's not the official way. But if you read every post of mine very careful you'll eventually find it.

So start digging in the forum. Yes. Madagascar. You have to earn it to live there.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have read all your posts on this thread. I respect them enormously. I have even taken notes on your writings, and I do carry two passports, I have read several books on Mada. The Brant book is on my list. I am just saying that there are more than one way to skin a cat, or so they use to say. If I decided to stay for more than a year. A work permit would be useful. Another way would be to extend my visa and fly to the nearest country, perhaps on the mainland, stay for few days, weeks, or even months and fly back. We have never met, but the at my age the things, that I have lived through, is enough to make a book from. People say the place I live now is dangerous. JAJAJAJAJA. I was in Mexico. For most of COVID, lived with people that HAD COVID, and still I am around to talk about it. Trust me, I am not a person that has never left their own country before.

Just saying. No disrespect here.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2615888]Yes, I have read all your posts on this thread. I respect them enormously. I have even taken notes on your writings, and I do carry two passports, I have read several books on Mada. The Brant book is on my list. I am just saying that there are more than one way to skin a cat, or so they use to say. If I decided to stay for more than a year. A work permit would be useful. Another way would be to extend my visa and fly to the nearest country, perhaps on the mainland, stay for few days, weeks, or even months and fly back. We have never met, but the at my age the things, that I have lived through, is enough to make a book from. People say the place I live now is dangerous. JAJAJAJAJA. I was in Mexico. For most of COVID, lived with people that HAD COVID, and still I am around to talk about it. Trust me, I am not a person that has never left their own country before.

Just saying. No disrespect here.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. So why you were asking about the climate. LOL. Way too expensive to fly to the mainland. Either Nairobi or Addis Ababa is costing you at least 600 $ return. What most Frenchman do is they fly to Reunion. Which is not exactly cheap either around 3 to 400 $. There's other ways. You can just bribe your way to visa extensions. I heard the going rate is 200€. It used to be every 3 months. Now every 2 months. So an expensive proposition. The above applies to normal times.

Through Covid I know a couple of people who spent more than a year on legal Visa extensions. But these times will come to an end soon. One way or the other it's costing you 100's of Euros if you insist to stay more than 3 months.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2615809]I take the outlaw ()

With respect, you repeat your self and as for me as you might remember, I have been in Mada bevor. It is the matter whether I can travel or not and what Corona has made out of Mada its self. The first set up program will therefor appear rather on the boring side of possibility.

Tana - Toamasina by cotisse and back. No panganales canal etc.

Inspired ?[/QUOTE]Tamatave? The best climate is now. October November. Relative low humidity. After December high humidity and loads of partially heavy rain and tropical cyclones. The Highlands should be very pleasant now as it is the onset of spring. The jacaranda will be in full blooms and Tana will look outright pretty at times minus the pollution and congestion.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2615795]Who's more into 44 and the good old Renault 4....[/QUOTE]There's a Duchman, movie maker, who owns 3 restored R4 in a decent shape of 40 year old cars. He's one of the few to rent a car without driver. Majority will rent a 4 x 4 with a driver only.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2616060]There's a Duchman, movie maker, who owns 3 restored R4 in a decent shape of 40 year old cars. He's one of the few to rent a car without driver. Majority will rent a 4 x 4 with a driver only.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I heard. Met a Dutch couple back in Tamatave driving a lovely restored grey R4. This island is really like a big village. Almost every vazaha knows each other.

La Buse.

Who's planning for a one way ticket to isle rouge.

Air France is selling tickets starting 6. November and the prices have tripled in a week. Yes one can call me Jeff if I would by a ticket, but further more: according to my agent most of those flights will bee cancelnd anyway.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2617350]...... according to my agent most of those flights will bee cancelnd anyway.[/QUOTE]Your agent seems to be a very well informed insider in Tana with connections to the highest level. Approximately more than 10.000 Malagasy people are on those flights within Nov-Dez. They will not be amused.

Can you please let us have your agents contact?

[URL]https://lexpress.mg/22/10/2021/ouverture-des-frontieres-les-voyageurs-a-lassaut-des-billets-paris-antananarivo/[/URL]

Furter more , in the official web-page of Air France with the exception of Wednesday you could still book at any day of the week . Jeff would book Businessclass .

[QUOTE=Tinte;2617909][URL]https://lexpress.mg/22/10/2021/ouverture-des-frontieres-les-voyageurs-a-lassaut-des-billets-paris-antananarivo/[/URL]

Furter more , in the official web-page of Air France with the exception of Wednesday you could still book at any day of the week . Jeff would book Businessclass .[/QUOTE]Sure. 2500 $ for a flight. Air France and Air Mad will fly. Even Ethiopian. From November 9th. To Tana. And all the people from the red listed countries will be bumped from boarding. As easy as that. Where you have this idea that flights will be cancelled? Maybe you should change your agent.

La Buse

Who will return to Isle rouge, when pandemonium and chaos have subsided.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2617915] Where you have this idea that flights will be cancelled? Maybe you should change your agent.

[/QUOTE]Just read the article to the end.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2617922]Just read the article to the end.[/QUOTE]That's an old news. That has all been sorted out. And Air Mad is cash strapped. They have 2 be 737-800 one of which is parked. They have no cash to pay for a new power plant. There was a confusion in the booking systems as Airlines scrambled to implement the changes when the government announced the opening Oct. 13th. Of course they'll sell all tickets they can. If the flight actually departs you'll see. LOL.

La Buse.

Who's booked to GEA. German East Africa. No COVID BS. No mask mandate. No vaxx. John RIP.

Air Ethiopia could bee a alternative. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2617934]Air Ethiopia could bee a alternative. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Your info base from your agent is poor. Fire him!

Ethiopian still got no landing rights. People who booked got cancellations. But Ethiopian keeps the money. Only offers a voucher. Shithead company.

I have been looking at options to travel to and from Fort Dauphin. Amadeuss has touched upon this before and his conclusions are right. It is not feasible to travel to Fort Dauphin by road from anywhere if you are on a short trip.

There are 3 options by road.

1. Rn 10 Fort Dauphin to Tulear: 3 days 2 nights non stop in a camion brousse. If you have the time I guess you could do it half comfortably in a week if you divide the distance in 3 seperate journeys. Would give you the possibility to visit lesser known cities like Ambovombe (population 125.000 probably not much infrastructure).

Alternatively you can take the coastal road that runs parallel to the rn10 by 4x4.

2. Rn 12 Fort Dauphin to Manakara: 3 to 4 days (2 to 3 nights in a hotel) in a privately hired 4 x 4. Beautiful scenery. 10 ferryboats to take, awful roads. If you have the time and money a journey to remember.

3. Rn 13 Fort Dauphin to Tananarive: Camion brousses apparently in convoy because the area between Ihosy and Ambovombe is largely bandit country. Again appalling roads, travelling with no end and unsafe.

That just leaves you with flights from Tana (or Tulear when available).

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2618005]There are 3 options by road..[/QUOTE]There are zero options by road you can get robbed easy. They starving now in the south, Fly everywhere.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2618008]There are zero options by road you can get robbed easy.
They starving now in the south, Fly everywhere.[/QUOTE]Don't generalise. I have not read reports of extreme insecurity on the Rn10 or the Rn12. But I agree mugs shouldn't fly to Madagascar. Many 'bad hombres' there. They can kill you very easy peasy.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2618099] I have not read reports of extreme insecurity.[/QUOTE]Read Wikipedia.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Madagascar_food_crisis[/URL]

As a result as this you won't go by road or by any mean.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2617940]Your info base from your agent is poor. Fire him!

Ethiopian still got no landing rights. People who booked got cancellations. But Ethiopian keeps the money. Only offers a voucher. Shithead company.[/QUOTE]After the most appreciated suggestion I had a look at the booking platform and it was promising at first glance only. Their terms and conditions are out of (XXXX).

La Brousse this year is right in front of you and does not just start in Ivato or at Le Glacier .

[QUOTE=NIO400;2618104]Read Wikipedia.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Madagascar_food_crisis[/URL]

As a result as this you won't go by road or by any mean.[/QUOTE]In that case one should eat a double cheeseburger menu with bacon before departure.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2618099]Don't generalise. I have not read reports of extreme insecurity on the Rn10 or the Rn12. But I agree mugs shouldn't fly to Madagascar. Many 'bad hombres' there. They can kill you very easy peasy.[/QUOTE]No need to get overly excited. Dahalo exists since time immortal. And no need to go zone rouge. There were violent robberies for example also on RN 34 in the past. A public bus can be robbed by highwaymen everywhere. Avoid overnight travel. Travel in convoy. Be prepared for road blocks. Dahalo can operate in quite strength 100 cattles rustlers or more. If you're unlucky they maim or kill you outright. C'est la vie.

They operate in remote areas. So they can rob you at their leisure and usually are melted away until the gendarmerie nationale arrives at the scene a couple hours later.

Bienvenue a Isle rouge.

La Buse.

There's even a computer game....

https://youtu.be/a05q2leezB0

[URL]https://www.mada-liberte.com/[/URL]

Why not? Well not for me as one gets very exhausted for the night to com . Besides thats in Mada like looking for trouble .

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2618005]I have been looking at options to travel to and from Fort Dauphin. Amadeuss has touched upon this before and his conclusions are right. It is not feasible to travel to Fort Dauphin by road from anywhere if you are on a short trip.

There are 3 options by road.
Would give you the possibility to visit lesser known cities like Ambovombe (population 125.000 probably not much.[/QUOTE]Having been to Ft. Dauphin, I can tell you there is nothing there. It takes no imagination to infer that a place like Ambovombe has "probably not much infrastructure."

On the plane to Ft. Dauphin, a fellow passenger (from South Africa) informed me of his reason for going: he was given the option of serving his remaining Jo'burg prison sentence by working in a mining operation in Ft. Dauphin. BTW, the mining company had commandeered all the hostelry in town for its people, leaving not even uncle needy class lodging for the intrepid tourist. But maybe things have improved and the Chinese have arrived. On the plus side, as you perambulate the landscape (don't forget your rain gear) you'll be surrounded, stalked, and followed by a swarming pack of kids, some not so young, and all are hungry. Check ID's. Oh wait, there aren't any.

"Lesser known cities." That's funny.

Ethiopian airlines start flying to Mada on Jan only. Why?

Many Mada girls already did the johnson and johnson vacassine but the Certificate they got is sloopy handwriting and in Malagash only without passport number or QR code.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2622186]Ethiopian airlines start flying to Mada on Jan only. Why?.[/QUOTE]Ethiopian is at the moment a NoGo airline with the increasing war in their country. Don't book!

In addition, they offer flights although they not have yet landing rights in Madagascar. Wait until the Madagascar Ministry of Tourism announces that ET also is approved. But you can book AF, Neo, AirMad and Air Austral.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2622186]Ethiopian airlines start flying to Mada on Jan only. Why?

Many Mada girls already did the johnson and johnson vacassine but the Certificate they got is sloopy handwriting and in Malagash only without passport number or QR code.[/QUOTE]Why do you worry. Most countries are redlisted anyway. So unless you're French Spanish or Portuguese the chance is NIL to board an aircraft to TNR. And if the TDF / OLA rebels topple the government in AA then Addis will be closed for a long time as international hub. If you're French national booked on Air France you might be able to actually enter Mada.

La Buse.

Who'll continue to suffer in COVID prison to rake in more money until spring.

I can see some flights available, not every days and minimum is 1117 euros to go and I see some others for return around 990 euros.

So yes, there are flights from Paris, but cost is a bit unusual.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2622414]Ethiopian is at the moment a NoGo airline with the increasing war in their country. Don't book!

In addition, they offer flights although they not have yet landing rights in Madagascar. Wait until the Madagascar Ministry of Tourism announces that ET also is approved. But you can book AF, Neo, AirMad and Air Austral.[/QUOTE]I tried Neo website but nothing. Lets wait until everything get clear.

I left Madagascar in March 2020 on the day before they closed the border on the last commercial flight out. And after that chaos, I'll be damned if I'm going to be on one of the first flights in. Mada can wait a long time before I'll go back.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2622414]Ethiopian is at the moment a NoGo airline with the increasing war in their country. Don't book!

In addition, they offer flights although they not have yet landing rights in Madagascar. Wait until the Madagascar Ministry of Tourism announces that ET also is approved. But you can book AF, Neo, AirMad and Air Austral.[/QUOTE]That's it!

I just want to add Air Mauritius, they also have the permit to fly to Tana and offer flights to Europe. But in case of that route ask for condition on Mauritius. Could be a problem or not. I did not inform. Neosair, now flights are available in April only.

Nothing about it and the entry requirements. Its not just about flights its about the policy of entering the country, testing etc.

Does they change there mind or?

[QUOTE=NIO400;2624438]Nothing about it and the entry requirements. Its not just about flights its about the policy of entering the country, testing etc.

Does they change there mind or?[/QUOTE]Mada is open for tourists. And entering conditions are more simple then Thailand and have less restrictions than Kenya: PCR Test on arrival, wait 1 to 2 days in a hotel of your choice -- and then you free to have fun at the Glacier or wherever the putes are. No curfew, no obligation to wear mask.

What's your complain about?

"Rock me Amadeuss".

A couple of possible reasons. The are making it up as they go and that will necessitate delays as they try to figure things out and change what is not working, OR they have a plan, but it not going to plan! Either way it is not surprising.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2624533]Mada is open for tourists. And entering conditions are more simple then Thailand and have less restrictions than Kenya: PCR Test on arrival, wait 1 to 2 days in a hotel of your choice .[/QUOTE]According to the the minister of tourism you need.

1. Negative result of an Rt-PCR test.

Presentation of a negative result of an Rt-PCR test performed 72 hours before boarding;.

2. Certificate of reservation for 2 nights.

Presentation of 2 nights hotel booking certification and proof of payment of a hotel room for at least 1 night for self-isolation;.

3. Rt-PCR test on arrival.

Performing a Rt-PCR test upon arrival in Madagascar, at the traveler's expense (25 euros);.

4. Airport-hotel transfer.

The airport-hotel transfer is provided by an approved shuttle, at the traveler's expense;.

5. Letter of commitment.

Presentation of a letter of commitment to stay in self-isolation until the test result is obtained;.

6. Travel tracking form.

The completion of a travel tracking form after the self-isolation period;

Note:

You can only allowed to land in Tana! And not Nosy and you must come from a "green" country and from only 3 airports. Before you fly you need to book a specific hotel from government list.

[URL]https://madagascar-tourisme.com/fr/reouverture-des-frontieres/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2624533] entering conditions are more simple then Thailand .[/QUOTE]Also you can not leave the room or get a visitor.

To get to this approved hotel from the list you also need approved transport. You can't just go and take a any taxi.

What if the PCR test will not arrive? You will be locked in the room and call who?

Book a hotel for two nights including shuttle from the list, pay it. Let it confirm. The rest ist to the room maid.
PCR test is no Issue since at that point you already had on done negativ at home .

[QUOTE=Tinte;2624762]PCR test is no Issue.[/QUOTE]OK let us know when you are on the ground with zero issues.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2624869]OK let us know when you are on the ground with zero issues.[/QUOTE]Where do you see the issue?

You have to bee tested negativ () bevor leaving your country, on arrival again. Moste likely you will bee negativ again. You get driven to your hotel by a driver moste likely from the hotel you have booked and payed bevor and all you have to let the authorities know. Thats the way they tell you to do .

What are the red Countries by the way?

There are several countries on the list. 300 cases of 100.000 citizen a week and that country is on the red list. But last time that just meant boarding in that country was not allowed. If you started your journey/boarding in a green country everything was fine. If France is on the list it would be game over. We will see what will happen next days. Cases increasing in a lot of countries, so the red list will also increase soon I guess.

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2624941]There are several countries on the list. 300 cases of 100.000 citizen a week and that country is on the red list. But last time that just meant boarding in that country was not allowed. If you started your journey/boarding in a green country everything was fine. If France is on the list it would be game over. We will see what will happen next days. Cases increasing in a lot of countries, so the red list will also increase soon I guess.[/QUOTE]Only 3 departure airports, Paris CDG, Mauritius, La Reunion, one destination Tana.

So I guess France is not on red list. Up to now.

But also:

"Si LE voyageur vient the'un pays classé « rouge » mais qu'il prend l'avion depuis un pays « vert », qu'en est-il de ce genre de cas?

Non, ce voyageur ne peut pas venir à Madagascar".

Google translate: If the traveller comes from a "red" country but flies from a "green" country, what about such cases?

No, this traveller cannot come to Madagascar.

They must be able to know how you stayed in France maybe if you are foreigner from red country and fly from Paris. Or its just forbidden.

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[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2624941]There are several countries on the list. 300 cases of 100.000 citizen a week and that country is on the red list. But last time that just meant boarding in that country was not allowed. If you started your journey/boarding in a green country everything was fine. If France is on the list it would be game over. We will see what will happen next days. Cases increasing in a lot of countries, so the red list will also increase soon I guess.[/QUOTE]So where is the famous Red List you wise crack? Until now I haven't found one. So far only hearsay. They might as well close down again as most countries will be on there again. LOL. Its mostly political. Rajoelina was under a lot of pressure to reopen. And to make some money for the basically bankrupt Air Mad, he also had to allow Air France to operate again. Most likely other airlines will be locked out for the time being. 10.000 malgache want to go back to Isle rouge as well as people want to leave the Island. On Timatic and that's where an agent looks if he allows you boarding there's nothing of a red list.

See attached screenshot.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2625015] They might as well close down again as most countries will be on there again.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]Sure! But also this "opening" looks a bit fake and not fully operational.

The whole thing ist more a kind of commercial Repatriation, bidirektional. The way things go on in Europa, on might get stuck in Mada for a longer time as he liked to.

Current Red list. Just ask the embassy in your home country.

Obstakels are here to overcome, just take it easy and do it.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2625040]The whole thing ist more a kind of commercial Repatriation, bidirektional. The way things go on in Europa, on might get stuck in Mada for a longer time as he liked to.
Current Red list. Just ask the embassy in your home country.

Obstakels are here to overcome, just take it easy and do it.[/QUOTE]Ask the embassy? Malgache?? Joke of the day. They're absolutely useless. The only competent advice (maybe) french consulate Facebook page in Tana. To get stuck in paradise. No problem. As long as you're not running out of money. Free Visa extension already since 18 months.

Madagascar is thankfully so remote it's not suited for weekend warriors from the US eastern seaboard or Thai Sex tourists. They will be robbed at knife point. LOL.

La Buse.

As Neddy pointed out: any embassy is just staffed with guys to attend dinners and not with well educated and responsible staff. Don't expect updated infos from them. Facts you may check out on the websites of the Mada Tourism Ministry [URL]http://www.tourisme.gov.mg/[/URL] -- but the site is off since while. Go figure.

The country opened borders. It works. Sort of, for about 1000 passengers per week. Although I assume 90% of them are returning Malgache. Quarantine hotels are fully booked.

In December flight prices are high because fully booked. End of January the first run is over and prices return to normal.

The girls are waiting. The earlier you arrive, the better the selection.

It made my day too, the phone call to the Embassy Malagasy of my home base.

Yes looking forward to on the ground again. The day will com.

Wow free visa extension?? Is this true?

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2625187]Ask the embassy? Malgache?? Joke of the day. They're absolutely useless. The only competent advice (maybe) french consulate Facebook page in Tana. To get stuck in paradise. No problem. As long as you're not running out of money. Free Visa extension already since 18 months.

Madagascar is thankfully so remote it's not suited for weekend warriors from the US eastern seaboard or Thai Sex tourists. They will be robbed at knife point. LOL.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]

You first. The seasoned Mada guys are taking a wait and see attitude (as am I). I am planning July 2022. Hopefully the hassles will be minimal, airfares lower and flights more common. If not, well fucked if I know. We would love to hear your experience as one of the first back to Mada after the long, long time away. So you know, just do it!

Note to Amadeuss: stop posting that picture. It is making me think of following Tinte's advice and jumping on the first plane back I can find!

I can smell it - Mada is a beast, the seasoned Mada guys know it just to well. LOL.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2625187]Ask the embassy? Malgache?? Joke of the day. They're absolutely useless. The only competent advice (maybe) french consulate Facebook page in Tana. To get stuck in paradise. No problem. As long as you're not running out of money. Free Visa extension already since 18 months.

Madagascar is thankfully so remote it's not suited for weekend warriors from the US eastern seaboard or Thai Sex tourists. They will be robbed at knife point. LOL.

La Buse.[/QUOTE]True. Madagascar or any country in Africa is simply not on the map for mongers from the US. Some popular American YouTubers I follow who were based in Thailand and the Philippines moved to countries where there are no government lockdown. Not one of them chose Tanzania. They left for Mexico, DRP and Columbia and one of them for Nicaragua. You mention any African country to them and the comment section goes bizarre about how "They will be robbed at knife point. ".

Yes, but you have to act carefully in Madagascar. Especially at night. There is serious risk of getting robbed at knife point in Antananarivo at night if you walk too long, I had experienced this by myself so its not a joke.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2627193]True. Madagascar or any country in Africa is simply not on the map for mongers from the US. Some popular American YouTubers I follow who were based in Thailand and the Philippines moved to countries where there are no government lockdown. Not one of them chose Tanzania. They left for Mexico, DRP and Columbia and one of them for Nicaragua. You mention any African country to them and the comment section goes bizarre about how "They will be robbed at knife point. ".[/QUOTE]

Just finished watching a very old French documentary on male tourism in Madagascar. Didn't realise they have a law criminalising p4p if you are a foreigner. A couple of the guys actually got convicted and sent to the nick (because there was a French crew filming the proceedings). Another one got a 5 yr sentence because he had taken some nude pics of a girl without her consent. I doubt these laws often get enforced but it does show you have to thread carefully. Even in paradise.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2629039]Just finished watching a very old French documentary on male tourism in Madagascar. Didn't realise they have a law criminalising p4p if you are a foreigner. A couple of the guys actually got convicted and sent to the nick (because there was a French crew filming the proceedings). Another one got a 5 yr sentence because he had taken some nude pics of a girl without her consent. I doubt these laws often get enforced but it does show you have to thread carefully. Even in paradise.[/QUOTE]That law is long time defunct. Ravalomanana introduced it. He wanted to stamp out prostitution. A joke in a country like Madagascar, where every half way decent looking girl is in the business. You can shag your ass off perfectly legal as long as long as it chica is 18 years or older. I know that documentary. Some useless french filmmakers made a documentary about Nosy Be sex trade. Some mostly French were at the wrong time at the wrong place. In the end some money changed hands. As far as I recall nobody went to prison except for a few days. Otherwise the whole male population of Madagascar would languish in jail. BS.

La Buse.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theafricareport.com/132710/madagascar-how-sex-workers-are-getting-short-end-of-the-stick/amp/

Hilarious that article... Sinister trade. I laugh my head off. Even that evil forum ISG is mentioned... And Southeaster even.....

Anyone else experiencing the last 8 days of posts having disappeared? My Mada page stops at Nov 21, 2021. Strange.

The topic must have been Covid or some other sickmaking stuff.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2632492]Anyone else experiencing the last 8 days of posts having disappeared? My Mada page stops at Nov 21, 2021. Strange.[/QUOTE]The topic was probably too hot. And anyway. Not really monger related.

La Buse.

Other news. Flights from Mauritius were stopped already. Only a question of time until Mada closes down again.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2632832] Only a question of time until Mada closes down again.[/QUOTE]Mada never opened since start of pandemic. Its a fake opening. Mada is locked.

I am in Mada since 10th Nov. Nothing closed. No restrictions in pubs, hotels or restaurants. Only curfew on midnight.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2635596]I am in Mada since 10th Nov. Nothing closed. No restrictions in pubs, hotels or restaurants. Only curfew on midnight.[/QUOTE]Hi Amadeuss,

Congratulations with your successful trip! I envy you. Please tell us what were / are the complications before and during your trip and upon arrival, if any, Corona-related or otherwise?

Finally someone took the plunge and went for it. Good on Amadeuss, one of the boards most savvy Mada mongers. Now that we know NIO 400 doesn't know what he is talking about perhaps we can get some real info. I will go first! Do you know if they have reinstituted the 3 month VOA? And what is the new airport like, particularly as regards immigration?

Myself I think it will be next June or so before I take the plunge so will have to live vicariously through posters who go before that. The flight logistics and costs from western Canada remain prohibitive.

Hope you have a good time! (Haha I know you will).

[QUOTE=NIO400;2633326]Mada never opened since start of pandemic. Its a fake opening. Mada is locked.[/QUOTE]I was in nosy be during the first opening (October 2020) and it was a very good trip, hot and wet.

[QUOTE=Boeing787;2635745]I was in nosy be during the first opening (October 2020) and it was a very good trip, hot and wet.[/QUOTE]Don't get too excited. COVID makes a comeback. 470 cases in Analamanga. I expect the flights to France to stop soon. Some say Air France guarantees flights to Paris till Mid January 22. But no problems. If you're newly minted Bitcoin millionaire or if your name is Tom Cruise you can enjoy unlimited pussy there. If you have sufficient funds. You just wait until you get a flight out or charter a private jet and apply to Andry to give you a special landing permit. LOL.

La Buse.

Just don't get sick there. You might die...

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2635740]Finally someone took the plunge and went for it. Good on Amadeuss, one of the boards most savvy Mada mongers. Now that we know NIO 400 doesn't know what he is talking about perhaps we can get some real info. I will go first! Do you know if they have reinstituted the 3 month VOA? And what is the new airport like, particularly as regards immigration?

Myself I think it will be next June or so before I take the plunge so will have to live vicariously through posters who go before that. The flight logistics and costs from western Canada remain prohibitive.

Hope you have a good time! (Haha I know you will).[/QUOTE]I was quick to book one of the first tickets when the opening announcement was made public. Its was about 700. -EU, whereas at the moment ticket prices are 4000. -EU rtn, due to the high numbers of Malgache travelling. Not tourists. You still must go through the old airport. The new one is not open yet. Immigration took time to get tested and then 2 days quarantine. Thats all. Mr Nio shall stop writing if he don't have the facts.

In Mada basically no big change. People make their living. All is open. Curfew at midnight but that's not really a problem. If you speak French and are a gentlemen you will find enough sweet girls to accompany you. I never did sleep alone. But also did I keep away from the cougars in the discos: they are trying to make up for the loss they had. 100.000 is the typical starting offer and some are brave to ask for 100. -Euro -- get lost baby! There are enough girls happy with 30 or 40.000.

Domestic flights are working however less frequent and more expensive then 2 years ago. Taxi brousse are full as usual. The few good hotels in Tana are quite booked due to the 2 day quarantine where all passengers have to stay. In the other cities like Tamatave, Mahjunga, Fianar, Tulear local life goes on as usual.

On departure back to France you must now show a negative test: Antigen or PCR. Whether vaccinated or not.

But as Neddy said: who knows how long it will remain open again? In June 2022 a total different situation can appear.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2635740] Now that we know NIO 400 doesn't know what he is talking about perhaps we can get some real info. [/QUOTE]Its a matter of a definition, For me 4000 euro flight plus quarantine means close.

Sure if you are Jeff Bezos every country in the world is open, even if you sick as a dead dog you will be welcome.

The true definition of "real opening" is countries such as Colombia, Brazil, Mexico and Kenya when you just fly at normal price and that's it.

Hi Nio.

As it concerns Nov / Dez mada is open. Price wise in Jan / Feb. For most of us too 700 bucks. But ho wants to go then? You?

[QUOTE=Tinte;2637194]Hi Nio.

As it concerns Nov / Dez mada is open. Price wise in Jan / Feb. For most of us too 700 bucks. But ho wants to go then? You?[/QUOTE]Price go back to "normal" from Feb 6 according to airfrance website. Around 900 euro return. Thing is, its the only airline allowed to fly to Tana so no competition to drive price lower.

Now, Feb is the rainy season not the best time of the year. They need to allow more entry point and more airlines.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2637454]Price go back to "normal" from Feb 6 according to airfrance website. Around 900 euro return. .[/QUOTE]Amadeuss was quick an brave as he booked for 700 Euros his ticket and it payed him of. At that time it likely was not sure either the flight will take place or what kind of Immigration process will bee in place. After that was sure prices went dramatically fast up. Januar / Februar will bee just the same around at lest double of "normal" price has to bee expected. It is just the law of supply and demand. Like in pussy heaven.

We all know you need a lo of space to bee admired. But bee assured there is plenty for you and some of your input is just to bee ignored or deleted.

Despite the fact of your announcement that Mada might bee closed again soon the prices for air tikkest for January, February are on the fast rising. The market sees it different to you and has not yet coming back to what some call " normal".

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2632492]Anyone else experiencing the last 8 days of posts having disappeared? [/QUOTE]And Again!

Here is the departure and arival procedures.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OkyFP7saEQ&ab_channel=RavinalaAirportsMadagascar[/URL]

Arrival procedures start at 2:12 look super simple but I still no sure about the folowing.

1. Booking hotel certificate for 2 nights. Does all COVID hotels that on the govoroment list has online reservation booking / agoda?

2. Travel tracking sheet Completion of a travel tracking sheet after the confinement period. Does the hotel will provide?

3. All countries allows. No red list?

I will be there on 12 Feb.

According to Air France "destination requirement" Calculator.

[URL]https://airfrance.traveldoc.aero/[/URL]

I tried some of EU passports and got this "Journey status: You are authorized to board if you meet the following conditions".

I tries to enter south Africa / Thailand Etc Passport and got this "You are not clear to board this flight. Please check the messages below. " Maybe its reflect countries that on the Mada Covid red list.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2644041]Here is the departure and arival procedures.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OkyFP7saEQ&ab_channel=RavinalaAirportsMadagascar[/URL]

Arrival procedures start at 2:12 look super simple but I still no sure about the folowing.

1. Booking hotel certificate for 2 nights. Does all COVID hotels that on the govoroment list has online reservation booking / agoda?

2. Travel tracking sheet Completion of a travel tracking sheet after the confinement period. Does the hotel will provide?

3. All countries allows. No red list?

I will be there on 12 Feb.[/QUOTE]I was looking tickets on airfrance website few days ago and was thinking also to buy one for February 14 as it was 691 euro one way. Or 1000 euros with return. Seems they are fully refundable. I want to go but still have also some unclearance. If my return ticket after 87-88 days do they allow me to the country? Do they still giving 3 month visa on arrival? If you find answers to your questions share here as is valuable information.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2644397]I was looking tickets on airfrance website few days ago and was thinking also to buy one for February 14 as it was 691 euro one way. Or 1000 euros with return. Seems they are fully refundable. I want to go but still have also some unclearance. If my return ticket after 87-88 days do they allow me to the country? Do they still giving 3 month visa on arrival? If you find answers to your questions share here as is valuable information.[/QUOTE]On arrival 30 days for 80 k Ariary or 60 days for 100 k Ariary. Check your local embassy website, that's where I found my information. If do you want to stay longer it's possible, but you won't get it on arrival.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2644397]I was looking tickets on airfrance website few days ago and was thinking also to buy one for February 14 as it was 691 euro one way. Or 1000 euros with return. Seems they are fully refundable. I want to go but still have also some unclearance. If my return ticket after 87-88 days do they allow me to the country? Do they still giving 3 month visa on arrival? If you find answers to your questions share here as is valuable information.[/QUOTE]Pokeris.

I am playing with thire website for long time, first don't agree to acept cockies, each new search they will increase price. Start from new phone or new PC.

Now, here is the tricky part Price from Frankfurt-Tana (vis paris) is 800 EURO but Paris-Tana is 1000 euro plus. Look into that you fly one more leg and you pay much less.

So From Colombia I fly tommorow to Mexico, then I fly [URL]https://www.condor.com/us[/URL] to Frankfurt. Then TAKE Air-France Frankfurt-Tana. Why?

1. Frankfurt Tana is the cheapest fare only 400 euro to Tana with air-France one way when you book a return.

2. connection time at Paris. - This super important. Flight to Tana to Antananarivo depart at Terminal 2 E. Arrival from Europe land at Terminal 2 G or 2 F. You need a shuttle and many connection they will give you is short as one hour. You will miss your flight, its a monster terminal.

Visa at Tana are 60 days, don't try to to extention at tana. If you want 60 days more there is one place to do it. Nosy Be airport. So you will take Bajaj and they will extend it to you on the spot. The exact location is out of nosy terminal in a small room in the same building. So go to find nice police lady tell her and she will take you to the specific room which is a bit hard to find. Give her small tip. If you try to do it here [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/FG37KamiY9a8by4e8[/URL] expact hell. They will want so many document forget it. So in Tana extension is hell in the ling I provided and not possible in the airport.

So base on the price I will land in Tana and for Total stay two month.

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2644500]On arrival 30 days for 80 k Ariary or 60 days for 100 k Ariary. Check your local embassy website, that's where I found my information. If do you want to stay longer it's possible, but you won't get it on arrival.[/QUOTE]I bought my ticket already from Feb. 12 to may 11 for 88 days in total for 1009 euros from airfrance website. Hope they will let me into the country and I can extend visa for 1 month later. Booked sole hotel for 3 days on [URL]booking.com[/URL] as it was on government approved list for quarantine (on the airfrance website they stated need to book minimum 2 days) later will find out what I need more as its still long time for my trip something can change.

[URL]https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/france-tightens-covid-19-rules-amid-omicron-variant-concerns/[/URL]

Its means if I don't have booster I can't enter France without quarantine? A bit confused. I can get a booster just in England as I done here my vaccines before last one on August. But France ban all arrivals now from UK. So if I fly back for uk to make booster I can't enter France after. As now I am at Colombia and was planning to fly direct to France and next day to mada from Paris. Seems I make wrong decision to book the ticket and after few hours this news come.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2644526]I bought my ticket already from Feb. 12 to may 11 for 88 days in total for 1009 euros from airfrance website. .[/QUOTE]I bought it from Amsterdam to Tana for 800 USD then I add 4 x "seat selection" in front of the plan, for extra 150 usd. (February 14) for 59 days. Date change are free.

So from Cancun I will fly to Amsterdam. Now need to book Tana-Sambava and hotel.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2644689]I bought it from Amsterdam to Tana for 800 USD then I add 4 x "seat selection" in front of the plan, for extra 150 usd. (February 14) for 59 days. Date change are free.

So from Cancun I will fly to Amsterdam. Now need to book Tana-Sambava and hotel.[/QUOTE]I see the flights from Cancun to Amsterdam is very cheap with tui airlines on Feb. 10 just 360 dollar one way. Probably I better fly to Europe from Cancun not Colombia (this way I can see Mexico also) and make my way to France after. Good tip!

Unless the rule have changed yet again, there is more than "one" place to get your extension. Tana is a nightmare to which I can attest. However supposedly if you can find out who and where any of the main cities can do it. Go back I believe around 2 years and look up Neddy's posts about this. He did it in Tamatave for 88 K I believe. Pokeris you may benefit from this as will I when I head over in June (fingers crossed!

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2644831]I see the flights from Cancun to Amsterdam is very cheap with tui airlines on Feb. 10 just 360 dollar one way. Probably I better fly to Europe from Cancun not Colombia (this way I can see Mexico also) and make my way to France after. Good tip![/QUOTE]Yes, also Amsterdam -Tana is much cheaper then Paris- Tana.

Hope the airline will not ask a return ticket and enforce at the date. Sometimes they can refuse boarding if the return date exceeds the standard visa period. This is why I booked 59 days just to avoid a possibility of airline issue when boarding.

I booked Sole hotel grom 14-17/02 and saw a studio with balcony but didn't book it. And as I have said for visa extension the only place for ZERO documents is Nosy airport. Its is also possible the the central govoroment bans visa extension but Nosy has some form of autonomy the not 100% share the ruls with Tana. If he tell you if you have a photocopy of your passport or photo etc. Just put the money on the table. In less then a minute you will walk away with your visa extension.

My flight to MEX (Mexico-City) is with Viva air but theIr search results will include some flight with "Viva air aerobus". Its not the same airline I not recommend it. My route is Mex, Puerto Escondido then renting scooter [URL]https://g.page/rental-scooter-pacific?share[/URL] and drive to [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/YUV6h5R9Do8RMjyN6.[/URL] Then fly to cancun and rent a scotter in cancun and drive to tulum. I also follow this guy for Mexico [URL]https://www.youtube.com/user/williamtaudien/videos[/URL] he has an amazing GF with a stunning ass.

For Mada not sure where I go, but probably head south as its more dry and leave Nosy when its get more dry. Interesting to see the impact of Covid on Mada but with facebook this impact will be a non issue for the online monger.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2644831]I see the flights from Cancun to Amsterdam is very cheap with tui airlines on Feb. 10 just 360 dollar one way. Probably I better fly to Europe from Cancun not Colombia (this way I can see Mexico also) and make my way to France after. Good tip![/QUOTE]Good luck flying Tui you will need it. Just read about them in tripadvisor UK. They tend to cancel.

I fly to Amsterdam with Condor. I used to fly with them many times from Mombasa the absolutely amazing. I take zero risk.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2645004]Yes, also Amsterdam -Tana is much cheaper then Paris- Tana.

Hope the airline will not ask a return ticket and enforce at the date. Sometimes they can refuse boarding if the return date exceeds the standard visa period. This is why I booked 59 days just to avoid a possibility of airline issue when boarding.

I booked Sole hotel grom 14-17/02 and saw a studio with balcony but didn't book it. And as I have said for visa extension the only place for ZERO documents is Nosy airport. Its is also possible the the central govoroment bans visa extension but Nosy has some form of autonomy the not 100% share the ruls with Tana. If he tell you if you have a photocopy of your passport or photo etc. Just put the money on the table. In less then a minute you will walk away with your visa extension.

My flight to MEX (Mexico-City) is with Viva air but theIr search results will include some flight with "Viva air aerobus". Its not the same airline I not recommend it. My route is Mex, Puerto Escondido then renting scooter [URL]https://g.page/rental-scooter-pacific?share[/URL] and drive to [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/YUV6h5R9Do8RMjyN6.[/URL] Then fly to cancun and rent a scotter in cancun and drive to tulum. I also follow this guy for Mexico [URL]https://www.youtube.com/user/williamtaudien/videos[/URL] he has an amazing GF with a stunning ass..[/QUOTE]I cancel the old ticket from Paris to tana and booked new one from Amsterdam for Feb. 14. Same date as yours at it was cheaper In total 810 dollar so its 340 dollar cheaper than old one. Also done just 58 days in total so I can add more days later for if I want. Hopefully will get full refund for old ticket. For Mexico I fly with avianca to Cancun on Jan. 26 and probably will visit Cancun, Merida, Mexico city or maybe Oaxaca instead. As I see tui airlines have direct flight from Cancun to Amsterdam on Feb. 12 for 357 dollars one way. Stay Amsterdam one night and next day flight to mada. Its sounds like a not so bad plan but with all covid new variant hitting so hard European countries can change everything.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2645337]booked new one from Amsterdam for Feb. 14. [/QUOTE]CDG is a nightmare airport since I didn't want to run to the gate I choose a 12 h connection. So I have booked the "ibis Paris CDG Airport" on Agoda for USD 86.01.

My flight from Paris is 14 and from Amsterdam 13. If you have 2 h connection at the same day, run to the gate as fast as you can.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2645262]Good luck flying Tui you will need it. Just read about them in tripadvisor UK. They tend to cancel.

I fly to Amsterdam with Condor. I used to fly with them many times from Mombasa the absolutely amazing. I take zero risk.[/QUOTE]All airlines can cancel with all this covid things zero risk sounds funny you need to have your private plane even with that no zero risk as airports can shut down on countries not let you in. Who knows maybe Europe or mada will be shut after one month. Zero risk its to stay at home and watch Netflix. If you travelling this days its always some risk.

I get email less than 18 hours after my refund claim from airfrance stating this:

Dear Mr. .

Thank you for contacting Air France.

While I appreciate that the current situation has determined unforeseen travel bans and restrictions and led to a massive cutback in flight activity, this does not seem to be the case for the flights that you have booked.

All flights in your itinerary appear confirmed and scheduled to leave at the time you originally booked them.

As a result, to ease your choice not to travel while retaining the possibility to depart on a different period without losing any revenue, I have exceptionally issued a Transportation Credit Voucher with document number (.) for the full value of your ticket (fare and taxes), to be used on Air France, KLM, Delta Airlines, Virgin Airlines, and Kenya Airways, valid till 1 year from the date of issuance.

Should you prefer to have a refund according to ticket conditions, you can request the voucher to be refunded and we will reimburse you the value of the applicable taxes.

I hope you find the above satisfactory and we remain at your disposal for any clarification.

Its suprise me they done it so fast they send me a voucher code in less than 18 hours on new year morning which I can exchange to the money if I not use voucher. So conclusion if someone thinking go mada buy a ticket without big doubt as its easy and fully refundable in case something happens.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2645420]CDG is a nightmare airport since I didn't want to run to the gate I choose a 12 h connection. So I have booked the "ibis Paris CDG Airport" on Agoda for USD 86.01.

My flight from Paris is 14 and from Amsterdam 13. If you have 2 h connection at the same day, run to the gate as fast as you can.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree with you about this airport in France. I still remember very well my nightmare day 10 years ago when I almost miss my connecting flight to Thailand and after return flight to England at his airport. Was running like a crazy with 5 days hangover all the way in airport. I have 2 hours 5 minutes for connecting fly this time so its ain't so bad.

Plan scret tamatave (Sipa mila vola).

Came across this one. Its quite new and it is on the build up. However, mixed participants and it provides some interesting Infos about the business, like the locals might handle it.

The site has been erased. Why? Well some of the adverts were just (code word whatever) not legal I guess.

Besides that it was interesting.

Out of curiosity I did a call to one of the cute girls. A guy picked up the phone and passed me on to a girl named in the advert. Practiced some french, LOL!!

[QUOTE=Tinte;2653087]Besides that it was interesting.

Out of curiosity I did a call to one of the cute girls. !![/QUOTE]The day you visit Mada, Nio will reach 4 k.

As for my on observations at the time , as a vahaza you walk the streets and bars as a constant self advert .

Seems things goes back to normal as far as entry requirements.

[URL]https://www.traveloffpath.com/who-urges-countries-to-relax-entry-rules-for-travelers/[/URL]

I already made all the booking for Tana including domestic flight.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2653842]I already made all the booking for Tana including domestic flight.[/QUOTE]Please share your experience you made with your domestic flight and the required covid test, which they do before the flight.

This testing before the domestic flights is an risky thing in my opinion!

Will go to Mada also, but sadly have to wait until May.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2654299]Please share your experience you made with your domestic flight and the required covid test, which they do before the flight.

This testing before the domestic flights is an risky thing in my opinion!.[/QUOTE]Very risky, yes. Those who take the tests are paramedics and not squeamish. I had to suffer. They push the stick deep up your nose and then smear the mucus into the test tube. All very unsanitary. It's just a country full of uncultured people. Better don't go please.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2654299]This testing before the domestic flights is an risky thing in my opinion!
[/QUOTE]Who told you they do testing for domestic flights?

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2654299]This testing before the domestic flights is an risky thing in my opinion!.[/QUOTE]I am not sure this info on Tsaradia web is valid. In fact I wanted to fly to sambava but instead I bought a ticket from sambava to Tana while I will wait in Tana. I will send her to Tsaradia office to ask.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2654354]Very risky, yes. Those who take the tests are paramedics and not squeamish. I had to suffer. They push the stick deep up your nose and then smear the mucus into the test tube. All very unsanitary. It's just a country full of uncultured people. Better don't go please.[/QUOTE]I'm not going to do this favor for you and will definitely go there.

Does that make you sad now, rancorous man?

Maybe you need to tell me more so that I will not go.

I'm waiting.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2654354] It's just a country full of uncultured people. Better don't go please.[/QUOTE]At least they have brought the culture of sexual wellness to perfection, therefor they well deserve a visit. LOL!

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2654354]Very risky, yes. Those who take the tests are paramedics and not squeamish. I had to suffer. They push the stick deep up your nose and then smear the mucus into the test tube. All very unsanitary. It's just a country full of uncultured people. Better don't go please.[/QUOTE]You forgot to mention. You can do all the booking you like. If Tsaradia in the state they're in are actually operating. They just cancel the flight for weather reasons or poor booking. Otherwise it's 24 hours by road with Taxi Brousse from Tana to Ankify. If the road is actually open. In Cyclone Season there's usually some bridges swept away. Then you'll just sit there for days sleeping in La Brousse till the river subsides and you are able to cross by dugout. LOL. Bienvenue a Madagascar.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2654299]Please share your experience you made with your domestic flight and the required covid test, which they do before the flight.

This testing before the domestic flights is an risky thing in my opinion!

Will go to Mada also, but sadly have to wait until May.[/QUOTE]Why sadly. Perfect time after the Cyclone Season. Till April only fools fly to Mada. They will be swept away by the seasonal rains and thunderstorms. Like just recently in Tana.

[URL]https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/news/rest-of-africa/ten-killed-by-floods-in-madagascar-capital-3686746[/URL]

La Buse.

Who's eyeing rock bottom price flight in April.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2654539]I'm not going to do this favor for you and will definitely go there.[/QUOTE]If everything goes as planned, I will post in super detail step by step all landing and quarantine process as well as girl Flight Experience.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2654422]Who told you they do testing for domestic flights?[/QUOTE]You can read it on Tsaradia Homepage. They are requiring it:

[URL]https://tsaradia.com/covid-19.html[/URL]

I would like to fly to Toliara in May from Tana. I read that the weather there in the south is mostly hot and dry. So if cyclone season or not, this makes no difference for the south.

I mean that this required rapid test is not nice, because they could test you positive, because you catched the wuhan flu in Tana and then you have a problem. That's my point. Will they quarantine me then?

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2654692]I mean that this required rapid test is not nice, because they could test you positive,Will they quarantine me then?[/QUOTE]You mean false positive. Happen all the time especially for those who vaccinated.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2654692]I mean that this required rapid test is not nice, because they could test you positive, because you catched the wuhan flu in Tana and then you have a problem. That's my point. Will they quarantine me then?[/QUOTE]Why you not believe? Been there, done it.

Sometimes the medics let you go, but your ticket is gone.

For others I did observe they ask thousands of questions and want to get his hotel address.

And then, as Neddy said: cancellations of flights are happening often because they only have one working little plane.

Not to forget: on your way back to Europe it's even more complicated: to check in, you need a PCR test. Although AirFrance says an Antigen is ok. But the staff will not accept that paper and send you back. Only one clinic in Tana does it for 100. -EU. Try to get it on a short note? A challenge. Be prepared.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2654692]You can read it on Tsaradia Homepage. They are requiring it:

[URL]https://tsaradia.com/covid-19.html[/URL]

Wuhan flu in Tana and then you have a problem. That's my point. Will they quarantine me then?[/QUOTE]The original Wuhan flu has been mutated into Omicron.

This virus has has less severe effects then then flu for vaccinated persons, so you can test positive but you are not sick and can not infect others. Now the question is what Mada authorities will do if you positive but not sick. There is another question why they test Corona on flghts and not on roads? I mean take taxi brusse to toliara and avoid testing.

My passenger will come from sambava thich is hell of trip so I bought her a flight, she will deal with testing as for me I will not fly if I need to test one day before and wait hours in line. What's the point of flying then.

Let's see what happen everything is possible.

The ask twice phone number or.

The want Contact person in Mada and its ID and his phone number.

[URL]https://madagascar-tourisme.com/Fr-fr/border-reopening/[/URL]

Here is the a section from this letter.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2658603]The ask twice phone number or.

The want Contact person in Mada and its ID and his phone number.

[URL]https://madagascar-tourisme.com/Fr-fr/border-reopening/[/URL]

Here is the a section from this letter.[/QUOTE]I not sure how about this part also. I just leave its empty. Hope airfrance website and Madagascar tourism website states correctly: Rt-PCR test Presentation of a negative result of an Rt-PCR test performed 72 hours before boarding) hope this is truth as my boarding time starts 3 hours left for my pcr test 72 hours e limit expiry. If they count arrival time instead boarding my pcr test 72 hours becomes not valid.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2662393]I not sure how about this part also. I just leave its empty. Hope airfrance website and Madagascar tourism website states correctly: Rt-PCR test Presentation of a negative result of an Rt-PCR test performed 72 hours before boarding) hope this is truth as my boarding time starts 3 hours left for my pcr test 72 hours e limit expiry. If they count arrival time instead boarding my pcr test 72 hours becomes not valid.[/QUOTE]They become crazy in Europe I arrived from Frankfurt to Amsterdam by train and even in the train they demand 3rd Dose (booster) or Test for the same day of the train departure.

Even in my hotel in Frankfurt she ask the 3rd dose.

After I arrive to Amsterdam we went to get the booster, its free to everyone. For PCR test required for flight to Tana I didn't do it.

I will keep it super simple for the arriving process.

Before boarding you Need a PCR and Vacassine Certificate. They scan the Code.

After Arriving at Tana you need everything as listed in the website* plus *Vacassine Certificate *which are not on the list.

The 777-300 from Paris has Max 550 seats and was full and on arrival only 10 Covid desks for testing. Means 3 H delay!

Another type of Caos is the transport to quarantine hotel. Its 30 k for a shuttle and the hotel taxi is a scam, they send a bus. So just take a 90 k real taxi and save time.

One ATM near the testing area and only one money changer. Both scams. ATM take 8 K commission and exchange rates of the changer is not good.

You are locked in the room until the results arrive. (but you can walk at the floor) They bring two meals but you need to buy water. (I brought two bottles from Amsterdam). PCR results arrive to hotel staff and they call your room to let you know.

Testing cost 25 euro and two month visa is 40 euro.

Glad we arrived in Mada, I predict they will remove the testing on landing as they can not manage to do it for a single aircraft. That's why they do not allow other airlines to land in Mada.

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Sounds like these guys are being stubborn as fuck. Have they not got the memo yet that many countries are relaxing their entry requirements, not going the other direction? Omicron must already be there and if so they have zero chance of containing it. These arrival rules are nothing more than theatre, the same as most western countries were putting us through until a few weeks ago. Even Canada is finally wising up. I hope they get this shit over with by the time I want to go in July.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2663630]Sounds like these guys are being stubborn as fuck. Have they not got the memo yet that many countries are relaxing their entry requirements, not going the other direction? Omicron must already be there and if so they have zero chance of containing it. These arrival rules are nothing more than theatre, the same as most western countries were putting us through until a few weeks ago. Even Canada is finally wising up. I hope they get this shit over with by the time I want to go in July.[/QUOTE]Well. They're Islanders. And they originate from SE Asia.

They're more scared shirtless from foreign germs then their own. To name malaria. La peste. Cholera. Typhoid. The DJ said more than one time he's there to protect the most vulnerable people from COVID. Never mind that the tourist industry which is dominated by Karane, French and a few other Europeans is going down the drain. For the time being it'll be only Air France, Air Austral and Air Madagascar via Paris and Reunion flying. I am monitoring the flights all the time. I use primarily KAYAK.

The hope is that when the Omicron wave subsides till spring more flights become available and the competition increases which brings prices down.

In the meanwhile I continue to hang out in Sex / Omicron prison, freeze my ass off and relegate myself to Gasy music videos and memorize Gasy vocabulary from the peace corps language manual.

[URL]https://youtu.be/OgRSrGmZXs4[/URL]

Tsanga Tsanga.

La Buse.

We went there around 9:30 pm and soon girls start to come. Some serious sexy girls from Majunga with lighter skin. Also live band singing in English.

I took one all night for 50 K. Easy check in Sole hotel just they need to deliver the ID.

Overall super fun and easy Mongering experience. I like how the girls enjoying posing to camera and masturbating while fucking.

Sole hotel itself is good but the WIFI is tired and inconsistent.

Good time now in Mada.

I generally use Kayak as well but over the last couple of years I have been looking at other sites and once in a while they will come up with some alternative that Kayak doesn't even have. I would recommend checking out Skyscanner as a secondary site. That said I (and I assume most of you) always try to book with the airline as dealing with trip aggregators such as flightnetwork etc. Can be a real pain if something goes wrong.

Glad to see NIO finally made it and things on the ground seem fine. Really looking forward to my summer trip.

I am very pleased to read your lines that you made it successfully to the red ground and are right in your upcoming adventure. Good luck, make them happy and longing for more of it.

After just 17 hours in quarantine hotel I was free to go. Sole Hotel stuff come my room around 21.00 pm and said you can go out now the PCR test comes negative. After 15 minutes I was in glacier already enjoying cold thb after 30-40 more minutes I was already in my hotel enjoying sweet Malagasy girl from manakara. We agree short time for 40 k but she was great so I keep here all night and in the morning give 60 k no complains about money as always. Next day I meet girl from facebook we went for some drinks and food after end in my hotel in the morning I give her just 30 k as I spend similar amount on her food and drinks. Seems she liked the night as she attacking me with facebook messages for another meeting. Life is good here glacier, manson, taxibe is open, weather its nice in tana, beer is cold and girls is same sweet and fuc. Ks well!! Thinking which cities to choose for my 3 month trip here. Tamatave was flooding a bit few days ago but girls are saying the water almost gone so maybe I go here. Bought telma sim but last day internet disappearing many times so just buy orange instead it has better internet and its cost just 30 k for 4. 5 GB data. + 3 k sim. BNI bank ATM still don't have any charges and allowed to take 400000 k ariary from one go.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2664535]After just 17 hours in quarantine hotel I was free to go. Sole Hotel stuff come my room around 21.00 pm and said you can go out now the PCR test comes negative. After 15 minutes I was in glacier already enjoying cold thb after 30-40 more minutes I was already in my hotel enjoying sweet Malagasy girl from manakara. We agree short time for 40 k but she was great so I keep here all night and in the morning give 60 k no complains about money as always. Next day I meet girl from facebook we went for some drinks and food after end in my hotel in the morning I give her just 30 k as I spend similar amount on her food and drinks. Seems she liked the night as she attacking me with facebook messages for another meeting. Life is good here glacier, manson, taxibe is open, weather its nice in tana, beer is cold and girls is same sweet and fuc. Ks well!! Thinking which cities to choose for my 3 month trip here. Tamatave was flooding a bit few days ago but girls are saying the water almost gone so maybe I go here. Bought telma sim but last day internet disappearing many times so just buy orange instead it has better internet and its cost just 30 k for 4. 5 GB data. + 3 k sim. BNI bank ATM still don't have any charges and allowed to take 400000 k ariary from one go.[/QUOTE]Ahhh, nice to hear th.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2664535]After just 17 hours in quarantine hotel I was free to go. Sole Hotel stuff come my room around 21.00 pm and said you can go out now the PCR test comes negative. After 15 minutes I was in glacier already enjoying cold thb after 30-40 more minutes I was already in my hotel enjoying sweet Malagasy girl from manakara. We agree short time for 40 k but she was great so I keep here all night and in the morning give 60 k no complains about money as always. Next day I meet girl from facebook we went for some drinks and food after end in my hotel in the morning I give her just 30 k as I spend similar amount on her food and drinks. Seems she liked the night as she attacking me with facebook messages for another meeting. Life is good here glacier, manson, taxibe is open, weather its nice in tana, beer is cold and girls is same sweet and fuc. Ks well!! Thinking which cities to choose for my 3 month trip here. Tamatave was flooding a bit few days ago but girls are saying the water almost gone so maybe I go here. Bought telma sim but last day internet disappearing many times so just buy orange instead it has better internet and its cost just 30 k for 4. 5 GB data. + 3 k sim. BNI bank ATM still don't have any charges and allowed to take 400000 k ariary from one go.[/QUOTE]I guess previous post was sent but not finished! And we can't go back and delete?

Nice to hear that you are on the ground and having fun as usual there!

Wish you a good trip, and if you chose to go down to Tulear and Ifaty, I would be interested to know what happen to Bella Donna Hotel, if they survive.

I had some news 2 months ago saying they are still there.

Several meetings with different organizations were done, for example with Mauritius or Ethiopian Airlines. Open the airport of Nosy Be is one thing that important. But of course just plans until today and dates are given.

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I am hoping Air Mauritius starts to fly again by the time I want to go. Normally I arrive from SEA and they are by far the easiest route from there.

Pokeris, where do you figure you will apply for your extra month visa extension? I will be doing the same thing and will be interested to see how that process goes. Good luck and thanks for posting so those of us not going soon can live vicariously! I am jealous.

Very nice boots on the ground reports from nio and pokeris. I hope I can finally make it there in early April as well.

Reading many reports it seems to me like standard is paying after. Would that also apply to tamatave cottis brothels and glacier hardcore hookers or is it always just very relaxed?

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2664940]I am hoping Air Mauritius starts to fly again by the time I want to go. Normally I arrive from SEA and they are by far the easiest route from there.

Pokeris, where do you figure you will apply for your extra month visa extension? I will be doing the same thing and will be interested to see how that process goes. Good luck and thanks for posting so those of us not going soon can live vicariously! I am jealous.[/QUOTE]I don't know where I will do probably in nosybe I still have 2 month almost. I hope till this time flights to nosybe will open and I can extend my visa at airport at nosy.

[QUOTE=Bienenstich;2665166]Very nice boots on the ground reports from nio and pokeris. I hope I can finally make it there in early April as well.

Reading many reports it seems to me like standard is paying after. Would that also apply to tamatave cottis brothels and glacier hardcore hookers or is it always just very relaxed?[/QUOTE]Why in hell would you pay before? You want to get lousy service? Always pay after. That s the rule number 1 everywhere on this planet.

When you read that everything in Tana is NORMAL you will shortly realized the Normal means no restriction at all in all aspects of the daily life. For exmple I see that around 80% walking with masks but inside clubs no one wear any mask. Social distancing? No such things. Well the world already moves away from Covid and Tana has Zero restrictions in this regards.

Cottiss transport has a new office in front of Tripolista Hotel, In fact it's just a small stand. I bought a ticket to Tanatave for the VIP for 60 K. For eating the is a new extension of Gastro Pizza next to glacier. It's a huge*place, two floors with have a coffee shop downstairs and on the second floor food. New proposition is the combo for 10 K the cost double in Pizza Gastro.

Sexy girls in the daytime are everyware, just go and take a contact number or better the FB messenger. Antananarivo weather is perfect nearly zero rain so far.

The lack of tourist is evident, if Tana was an easy place for mongering now I feel that its even easier. (girls ae eager due to 2 years closure) I just came here from Colombia, DR and Mexico. No country will beat Mada for price, girls and the effortless you can bring girls to your room.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2665249]Why in hell would you pay before? You want to get lousy service? Always pay after. That s the rule number 1 everywhere on this planet.[/QUOTE]No need to shout! Yes, its common in countries where you deal with freelancers to give the money once she leaves.

But go to any FKK or order an Escort online: once the girl is in your room, first thing she is asking is money on the table, because she has to report it to her pimp.

Its even the case in the few brothels in Mada.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2665368]No need to shout! Yes, its common in countries where you deal with freelancers to give the money once she leaves.

But go to any FKK or order an Escort online: once the girl is in your room, first thing she is asking is money on the table, because she has to report it to her pimp.

Its even the case in the few brothels in Mada.[/QUOTE]Did I write in capital letters? No so I didn't shout. This is shout. See the difference?

I m just tired of guys acting like pussy in front of girls.

We are talking about FL here so having a reference to FKK is pointless and nobody orders an escort in mada. Even in the massage ripoff joints in mada people pay after.

I never paid before neither in mada nor anywhere. My money my rules. Period.

Thank you Amadeuss and Muzungufotsy.

Man I can't wait to get there it has been way too long if all restrictions drop as well that would be dope.

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[QUOTE=Pokeris;2665851]You never paid before and never paid after as you never been in mada this is clear already long time ago. But internet works good from mums basement.[/QUOTE]Saying the guy who tried to corrupt Rwandese police LOL. I have been in places in Mada you will never go so don't patronize me and go back to mummy.

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Today I had extended my 2 month visa in Tamatave 1809'15.7"S 4924'51.6"E.

Officer propose two options.

1. hard which I need to visit multple office which mean no visa.

2. Easy way which I need to do nothing.

I told him option 2.

He took us to a photoshop to print both flights to Tana and from Tana. Also we photocopied our passports and visas and finally we took 2 passport photos. All that time the police officer took care of everything. He actually left the office and went with us. The location of this photo shop is just next to that government office.

I paid 120 K and 20 K Tip. End of story.

Thanks for the info. It is exactly what I intend to do. After much searching a while ago I found Neddy's post from around 2 years back (I think!) and it sounds much like what you did. IIRC he paid 88 K and did the legwork himself. Being a lazy prick I will probably spend the extra and do just what you did. 32 K to avoid hassles and hoofing it around is well worth it to me. Hell it's only the price of a short time! How's the weather in Tamatave?/ Pissing down?

BTW the coordinates you posted don't seem to make sense. 1809 degrees?

I have been told by the Tamatave immigration that the two month tourist visa can be extended *Indefinite. Its works like that.

1. You come with the 2 Month visa you got on arrival.

2. You got one month extension.

3. You come back and get the same type 2 month visa as you got on arrival.

4. repeat step 2 to 4.

The issue with this is that the one month visa extension occupides two pages in the passport. Its huge red inc stamp penetrated to the other side of the page and they wasted more then two pages. You can try to ask if you want only one stamp.

Step 3 is one small sticker visa.

What happens behind the scenes is obviously the same process they do in Mombasa no need to talk about it.

You can get retirement visa or marriage visa (no need a wife), or anything you want if you have money. So basically the immigration in Tamatave, Mombasa, Pataya etc offer the same "services" no need to be a Tesla millionaire or having any connections. Its 2 min process.

Good info. Thanks. I still cannot makes sense of your coordinates and neither can google maps. Clarification?

I haven't seen any news since 24th February and would like to know about entry rules into Mada. Also, I wonder why there hasn't been any updates since one month already.

[QUOTE=Doc16;2677499] would like to know about entry rules into Mada. [/QUOTE]Read my detailed one the ground report on that.

I have been looking around the web regularly but have yet to see much about new routes being added. Has anyone heard any word about whether or not Air Mauritius is going to resume flights from KL / Singapore? Currently flights from Canada are very few and stupidly priced.

NIO still awaiting some input on the coordinates you wrote for the immigration office in Tamatave SVP.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2635740]Now that we know NIO 400 doesn't know what he is talking about perhaps we can get some real info. [/QUOTE]I agree!

Get real info from someone who knows. But why you are non stop begging him for visa info?

In April planning to visit Mada. Which hotel in Tamatave will allow 2 ladies in the room (for threesome)?

[QUOTE=NIO400;2677760]Read my detailed one the ground report on that.[/QUOTE]Yes, NIO, I did read your report and many thanks for that! However, I still have some lingering questions. First of all I am not clear about the quarantine rules.

-Do I have to stay locked up in my room for 2 days or am I free to wander about? Also, is it permitted to receive a lady guest in my room during the required 2-night occupancy?

-I also would like to know how much time it will approximately take at the airport to process for PCR, visa and baggage? I arrive late (22:25).

-My chosen hotel in Ivato wrote: "To deliver you the certificate, please send us: The payment in advance of one night and airport shuttle (240 000 AR=54€). " That means 40.000 for the airport shuttle within Ivato area. Is that mode of transportation obligatory? Or may I take a taxi instead? Also, will it be in operation late at night after midnight?

BTW, did you make it to Tamatave? Or did you stay in Tana? I gather Tamatave got lots of rain in recent weeks. And what is the situation like these post-Covid days in Mada in general? (availability; prices)? Any vivid stories?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=NIO400;2677760]Read my detailed one the ground report on that.[/QUOTE]Oh, just one more question: I will arrive late at night (22:25). When can I expect the PCR test result at the earliest? The next day? So I can travel onward on day 2? Also, are SIM cards available at the airport at that late hour? I assume that you may also have arrived at the same late hour with Air France.

[QUOTE=Doc16;2678302] When can I expect the PCR test result at the earliest? The next day?[/QUOTE]You refuse to read?

Look again, timeframe was posted by other member.

[QUOTE=Doc16;2678256] Is that mode of transportation obligatory? Or may I take a taxi instead?.[/QUOTE]My advise is that instead of flying to Mada better you go back and start learning how to read.

Read again.

"But why you are non stop begging him for visa info?" By him I assume you mean you. The answer is quite simple. I want to know. Satisfied? You remind me of a previous poster the "expert" who was on his 3rd or4th username. Couldn't be you, could it?

Some road getting worst every year in mada as they not fixed at all or just little bit I done some roads trips at my almost 6 weeks stay here already so will give some time frames for travelling by road:

Antananarivo-Tamatave few years ago it was possible to do road trip with cottis transport in 8-8. 5 hours without any delay now it takes 10-11 hours as road condition is worst.

Antananrivo-mahajanga the road is similar as was 3 years ago not so bad not so good trip takes 12-12.5 hours without delays.

Mahajanga-ambanja I take cottis it was worst road I ever seen in Madagascar 3 years ago it was possible to do it in 18 hours with taxi brouss this time takes me 27 hours with 4 hours delays on the roads because of blocked roads with other vehicles stuck and blocked the road so if you lucky and no delays you can make it in 22-23 hours (defenitely not reccomend do this trip by road even tana-ambanja as most of the time its will be same road) better just fly to diego and from here go nosybe or fly straight to nosybe. 3 different people telling me from ambanja to diego the road its very good now is all fixed also road from ambilobe to sambava is good now. I will check it out myself after 3-4 weeks as I plan continue my trip from nosybe--Diego- after back to ambilobe-sambava-antalaha (maybe andapa) back to sambava and fly back tana. (I will add some photos of the road mahajunga-ambanja to understand what I mean very bad road.).

Ambanja-ankify same shitty road but nothing to worry about as its short trip takes around 35-45 minutes with taxi collective 5 k or taxi brouss 5 k.

Ankify-nosy be by boat has 3 different boat types prices is 8 k ,12 k and 15 k they state all prices on the wall now in ticket office so no scams anymore for silly tourist. 15 k boat takes around 30 minutes to reach nosybe.

The prices of the girls they are still the same as was before: this is what I was paying: 30-40 k short time and 50-60 k all night most of the times depends in which city. Few times I was giving 10 k or 20 k more if the girl was awesome in sex but its just my own decision. Half of the times I not talk about price with girls I just give what I think was fair never have any complains or some argument yet from 35 different girls I done this trip. I mixed facebook girls with club, bars street girls. If you coming here I suggest you to have some friend list with facebook girls which you can invite to your hotel room as clubs and bars can be hit and miss somedays.

If someone have some questions about mada or tamatave, mahajunga, tana or nosybe I can answer as I visited this cities already if they not silly ones and not have info already on the forum. Mada is still same you need to suffer with problems at hotels, bad roads, stomach problems, mosquito bites, electricity problems and so on to enjoy sweet Malagasy girls. Its not for sensitive mongers!!

[QUOTE=Doc16;2678302]Oh, just one more question: I will arrive late at night (22:25). When can I expect the PCR test result at the earliest? The next day? So I can travel onward on day 2? Also, are SIM cards available at the airport at that late hour? I assume that you may also have arrived at the same late hour with Air France.[/QUOTE]Actually the lazy buggers Mr Jackson should charge 10. -$ for every question asked, where you can already find an answer in the forum.

The entry regulations didn't change since the reopening last year.

Book an approved hotel, pay the first night and have the confirmation ready on arrival.

You get tested on arrival. Waiting takes 1 to 2 hours.

You get transported by assigned buses. No private car allowed.

You must wait in the hotel till your test result arrives at their reception desk. Can be within 2 days. But also 3 days can happen. Its Mada. Don't plan anything. Just go with the flow. If you don't like it -- don't go to Mada!

You won't be able to get a SIM card registered at the airport. It takes time. Yo have anyway internet in the hotels. Better you go to the Telma office once you are released at Ave Independence. Don't forget your passport. Processing time about 2 hours.

Toliara for me is the best city for sex in Mada as far as cheap sex goes with young girls with no kids. As opposed to Tana when you go to the LE glacier its * hit and miss mostly miss.

The Club to go in Toliara*is "la rose noire" which is located opposite of RobiV. It's a big club with hundreds of people on weekends. All types of girls there and its level above what you can get in Tana.

Price is 20 K for a girl. . Best is after 11:30 PM. You start to talk to one girl then 3 girls reply.

Hotel recife had some rooms renovated with new mattresses and new AIRCON for 45 k per night. To get to the club you just walk as the street has massive lighting now and people are all over the bars that pop up along the way.

PusPus price in town is the same from 500 to 1 K. But they talk in FMG so you need to say 2500 then puspus reply Aiza then you tell the destination. So it's like that I can pay 500 AR (2500). Where to? Aiza? Then you go.

Major makeup in the city is all the sidewalks have been paved and the city that previously was covered in sand looks much better now.

The most difficult thing is to avoid food poisoning, they do not use the fridge and in this hot season it can send you to hospital or just two weeks in bed. If you can develop some sort of eating habits from trusted source then sex is around the clock. 24/7.

Mangily? No! Its bloody hot for a room without A/C and no reason to leave Toliara that has tons of girls.

Now I wait for the question. Anyone has been in toliara?

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2678663]
If someone have some questions about mada or tamatave, mahajunga, tana or nosybe I can answer as I visited this cities already if they not silly ones and not have info already on the forum. Mada is still same you need to suffer with problems at hotels, bad roads, stomach problems, mosquito bites, electricity problems and so on to enjoy sweet Malagasy girls. Its not for sensitive mongers!![/QUOTE]Do you speak the local language or French? Were you able to manage your trips by speaking English only?

After some weeks I guess everyone picks up a little french. Some of the girls do not speak french at all, but nature finds his way. The best site on earth to practice any kind of french even fore a beginner.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2679498]Do you speak the local language or French? Were you able to manage your trips by speaking English only?[/QUOTE]No I not speak any French just know numbers till 10. And any Malagasy also google translator works perfect.

Those of you who read Pokeris' latest post should take heart if you are thinking of making a trip to Mada and have been told that it is too hard and not worth the trouble. It IS hard and can be plenty of hassle even with French but he proves it is doable and is having a blast.

That said if you are a two week millionaire accustomed to places like Pattaya and Angeles where everything is available (think English breakfast fry-ups, Burger King and espresso martinis WTF?) handed to you on a silver plate you may want to think twice, or three times or.

As spend here already 10 days will share some info. Nosybe is not same as was before pandemic. Its quiet place now without any tourist just same amount of old local French and Italian expats they gone nowhere. Probably 60-70 percent less girls everywhere than before also. Taxibe, biliard bar is open every night but honestly I not going here anymore on weekdays its 15-20 same girls every night and quality is low. Just on weekends get a little bit better so it has a chance you will find a girl you like. Djembe disco its still open also just not everyday on weekend was singing famous Malagasy artist so it was packed. Tati Chris is still open on Sundays last Sunday was around 60-80 girls manage to collect few contacts of girls I liked but if you compare with few years ago its quiet also as before it was 200-300 girls easy. I still manage to get a new girl every day but 70 percent of them is from my facebook contacts this girls I never seen walking in ambataloaka bars or clubs. Paying the same 30-40 k for short time and few times give 50 k for all night. The girls is still everywhere in Nosybe you can get contacts at beach, clubs, bars, street, market and so on just not so many of them as before. Now need to put much more effort to find a girl you like.

Hotels rooms around 70-80 percent of them empty so its easy negotiate good price but sometimes some hotels on agoda or booking have good promotions and its even cheaper than at hotel so the best check at hotel and on booking platforms and compare. Some cheaper bungalows is so desperate to find costumers so they even rent out the rooms for local Malagasy families with children's and they live here. Probably its better than keep than empty. Most restaurants is open as before its will suits high and low budget mongers. Also they open new pizza gastronome just opposite djembe disco its worst gastronome I seen in all Madagascar 60-80 percent less choose of dishes compare with other gastronome pizzas around Madagascar and prices is 20 percent higher most of the times its empty. Anyway I enjoy Nosybe somehow till I getting new girl everyday for now. Its quiet here, super safe, the girls is same sweet giving good service nothing to complain about.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2680461]As spend here already 10 days will share some info. Nosybe is not same as was before pandemic. Its quiet place now without any tourist just same amount of old local French and Italian expats they gone nowhere. Probably 60-70 percent less girls everywhere than before also. Taxibe, biliard bar is open every night but honestly I not going here anymore on weekdays its 15-20 same girls every night and quality is low. Just on weekends get a little bit better so it has a chance you will find a girl you like. Djembe disco its still open also just not everyday on weekend was singing famous Malagasy artist so it was packed. Tati Chris is still open on Sundays last Sunday was around 60-80 girls manage to collect few contacts of girls I liked but if you compare with few years ago its quiet also as before it was 200-300 girls easy. I still manage to get a new girl every day but 70 percent of them is from my facebook contacts this girls I never seen walking in ambataloaka bars or clubs. Paying the same 30-40 k for short time and few times give 50 k for all night. The girls is still everywhere in Nosybe you can get contacts at beach, clubs, bars, street, market and so on just not so many of them as before. Now need to put much more effort to find a girl you like..[/QUOTE]Double Whammy. COVID therefore no flights. Cyclone season at its peak. Honestly. What did you expect. That's why I still not bother with Madagascar. And lack of cheap flights. I never paid more than 700€. To TNR. It's a market. During Cyclone season most girls head back to their families. Most are from Antalaha and Sambave region. To travel around during peak rainy season is the worst time to visit Mada. But everybody to his own. I'm planning for July 22 to head back to Mama Africa. But most likely it'll be Tanzania Kenya or Uganda. Even in normal times for me the best times to visit MADA are April or October. Usually cheap Air France flights. July August peak holiday season for French Tourists and Malgache.

La Buse.

And Pizza gastronomy. Worst junk food in Mada. Unedible. Any Gargotte is better.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2680645]Double Whammy. COVID therefore no flights. Cyclone season at its peak. Honestly. What did you expect. That's why I still not bother with Madagascar. And lack of cheap flights. I never paid more than 700. To TNR. It's a market. During Cyclone season most girls head back to their families. Most are from Antalaha and Sambave region. To travel around during peak rainy season is the worst time to visit Mada. But everybody to his own. I'm planning for July 22 to head back to Mama Africa. But most likely it'll be Tanzania Kenya or Uganda. Even in normal times for me the best times to visit MADA are April or October. Usually cheap Air France flights. July August peak holiday season for French Tourists and Malgache.

La Buse.

And Pizza gastronomy. Worst junk food in Mada. Unedible. Any Gargotte is better.[/QUOTE]What I expect? Do I said I not enjoying? If you know how to monger the season its not important mada is big can go different towns and all girls is here. Rainy season its not makes difference for me as most of the times its rains at night and not every day. I been mada 3 times on rainy seasons and never have problems. You can leave that stories about rainy seasons for newbies who never been mada. Pizzas gastronome have some healthy food not all junk.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2680824]What I expect? Do I said I not enjoying? If you know how to monger the season its not important mada is big can go different towns and all girls is here. Rainy season its not makes difference for me as most of the times its rains at night and not every day. I been mada 3 times on rainy seasons and never have problems. You can leave that stories about rainy seasons for newbies who never been mada. Pizzas gastronome have some healthy food not all junk.[/QUOTE]Yes. You said it. Cyclone season doesn't make any difference to YOU. Ask the 200.000 people who lost everything on the east coast. Of course Nosy Be is usually not as affected. Your business if you like to spend 36 hours in Taxi Brousse instead of 24 hours. Of course the pussy is there. Where should it go. For me the problem is not normal rain but torrential rains which sweeps away bridges and roads and damages them or makes them unpassable for weeks on, so you can travel at a snails pace. Travel in Cyclone season can and does wreck or delay your travel plans. Therefore I'll never recommend traveling to Mada during the period end of December till end of March.

La Buse.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2678991]…
Hotel recife had some rooms renovated with new mattresses and new AIRCON for 45 k per night. To get to the club you just walk as the street has massive lighting now and people are all over the bars that pop up along the way.

Mangily? No! Its bloody hot for a room without A/C and no reason to leave Toliara that has tons of girls.

Now I wait for the question. Anyone has been in toliara?[/QUOTE]Did you mean the old Recife hotel or the newer one Recife Annex? The newer one has a dirt road that leads up to it and it floods really bad during rainy sea.

Also, Ipyou mentioned there are more pavement and the city is not sandy or dusty! This I've got to see to believe as for me that was the biggest negative side of Toliara: sand everywhere!

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;2681206]Also, Ipyou mentioned there are more pavement and the city is not sandy or dusty! This I've got to see to believe as for me that was the biggest negative side of Toliara: sand everywhere![/QUOTE]Some part of the city was transformed to something like las Vegas of Mada look brand new with zero sand. I will add old photo for comparison.

Here is 2018 photos.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2681449]Here is 2018 photos.[/QUOTE]Looks renewed, yes, my last trip there was 2019 and looking same as your 2018 pics.

From where came the money? Chinese?

Or a new mineral project to exploit the sands around Toliara?

Went out Saturday at 22.00 pm. And could believe many girls inside taxibe, biliard bar and even some standing outside like good old times similar at low season few years ago. Collected 5 facebook contacts and start to chat with girls offering 30 k for short time all 5 agree instantly come my hotel when I want Its just shows how they desperate for money without tourist. I am pretty sure they even agree 20 k for short time but for me this amount sounds like take advantages of situation 10 k more or less not make big deal for me but for girls does.

Blowjobs on the beach at night for 10 k from taxibe, biliard bar girls or the girls who walks at night its still on the list. Get it from 2 diffrent girls with cum in the mouth two nights in a row. Its romantic to sit at the beach look at the stars when girl is blowing for you.

Pity its just on weekends more busy here and on weekdays becomes a bit calm again but if you plan a bit can have new girls everyday.

With the world recovering from covid insanity Madagascar seems to follow with relaxing their entry rules. Now antigen test on arrival which is a huge upgrade in comparison to the pcr test and prebooked hotel IMO.

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[QUOTE=Albert9989;2681495]From where came the money? Chinese?

Or a new mineral project to exploit the sands around Toliara?[/QUOTE]How I know I am not working in the City Council. But.

I saw many SUV /4 X4/ Pickup trucks in the evening next to the bar area, traffic jams from those cars were intense. Some peoples got money.

On the other hand the level of poverty increased dramatically, I would say that it's easier to get rid of cancer then girls in the clubs. They will follow you to your room even if you reject them.

From Toliara I took two separate flights to Nosy with a stop over for a few days in Tana. I found a new mongering area in Tana so it keeps me busy. Price of domestic flights are in the moon.

It is indeed but I am looking for the pre arrival pcr to be dropped as well. It seems to be a trend most if not all Western countries are following and many not so Western countries like Cambodia. Now all we need is more flights!

Still looking at August for my return. Please let nothing more fuck things up!

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2681876]It is indeed but I am looking for the pre arrival pcr to be dropped as well. It seems to be a trend most if not all Western countries are following and many not so Western countries like Cambodia. Now all we need is more flights!

Still looking at August for my return. Please let nothing more fuck things up![/QUOTE]Flights in July and August are prohibitive expensive. Are you planning to fly from Bangkok? Even before COVID I never flew July and August. Cheapest from Europe was always Air France, depending from which gateway city I fly. Now I see nothing lower than around 1000 Euros. When I fly to Mada it'll be either April or October. I always managed to find return flight around 650 to 700 Euros. But that's really rock bottom. Ethiopian worked out too expensive for me. Most direct flight still the good ol' Air France. Long haul. Good food and good board service. The only horror is change flights at De Gaulle. Took hours to pass through security.

Madagascar. Hard to get to. Hard to leave.

La Buse.

Tipp. I flew back on Dec 24th and Jan 31st. Rock bottom price as nobody flies on these dates. LOL. Had a great Christmas party 2019. All Stewardesses even captain were running around with Santa Claus head gear.

Last time I visited I took a last minute direct flight Warsaw to Nosy Be it was only 2 weeks but it was very cheap like 500 euro. I do not know if they will get a landing permit this season?

[QUOTE=Tottem;2682450]Last time I visited I took a last minute direct flight Warsaw to Nosy Be it was only 2 weeks but it was very cheap like 500 euro. I do not know if they will get a landing permit this season?[/QUOTE]There's actually flights on their website but I see only packages.

No I used to live in Cambodia so I flew with Air Mauritius via KL and Singapore. Around 10 hours all in and normally cost under a 1000 US return! Damn good. I am patiently waiting for that route to reopen and I still return to SEA as my old stomping grounds. I am hopeful that they restart before I want to go as travel via Europe is bloody expensive and not exactly convenient. Last time 2 back to back 10 hour flights and no sleep for 2 days just about did my head in.

If you want to go this year, book now!

I observe the fares regularly and just saw an increase by AF from August of about 50 EU for the rtn ticket. Now about 800 EU for the autumn flights.

Neos Charter from Italy direct to NosyBe is about 900. -

The only additional flights are coming up with Ais Austral via Reunion. But they are never cheap, above 1000 EU.

TA, AirMaur, KenyaAir. Not approved yet.

Ethiopian could get a permit for NosyBe. But the Mada minister in charge wanted to get 2 seats on every flight for their own personnel to check the handcarry luggage during the flight (because of the 75 kg gold smuggling from their treasure last year) For sure Ethiopian refused.

Prices won't fall this year anymore for reasons we all know.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2682579]No I used to live in Cambodia so I flew with Air Mauritius via KL and Singapore. Around 10 hours all in and normally cost under a 1000 US return! Damn good. I am patiently waiting for that route to reopen and I still return to SEA as my old stomping grounds. I am hopeful that they restart before I want to go as travel via Europe is bloody expensive and not exactly convenient. Last time 2 back to back 10 hour flights and no sleep for 2 days just about did my head in.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.cocolodgemajunga-madagascar.com/retour-dair-mauritius-a-madagascar/[/URL]

Dynamite news! You made my day. Now I just have to get to Mauritius. I am hopeful the KL / Sing flights will be reinstated soon. Things are looking up!

Contrary to what I have read about Charles de Gaulle airport being a nightmare I think its a very nice airport. Lots of smoking rooms. Try find one at BKK airport LOL. Walking from 2 F to 2 K gates took 20 min at most at cdg. Touchdown in tnr and within an hour I try hustling for a taxi without success so I just paid up the 60 k. Goes rather fast buying visa doing antigen test exchange some money and leave airport. Check in at sole very nice got my bags carried all the way to room. Got assistance to withdraw some cash as well from the ATM just outside. Try finding a girl got approached by a few offered 20 k which was hesitantly accepted after I came inside her she wanted more I told her what we agreed to and have no problems.

Am very thirsty and hungry can go eat outside but am just very tired ID rather try sleep now haha.

Airfare being rather cheap at a little under 720 euro certainly comes with its drawbacks weird flight times arrive late night Saturday etc. I tried looking for a sim but without success shops closed so a day without mobile internet it is. Beggers and bumpsters rather annoying and lots of them not giving any attention at first and just say j'ne veux pas doesn't seen too wield much success. Ig nothing will change that they just harass you no matter what you do LOL. Went for some grocery shopping after lunch in LE buffet jardin and trying to find a girl now during day time not much to chose from but I think I can make it work.

Had a nice short time with a rather pale skin girl which I picked up in sole hotel area. No word French but it just worked out very well. 30 k ST and a petit cadeux. LE pizza gastronomy acceptable meal but the ice-cream from glacier with the view of the city is the real deal. Relax for a bit until dark so putes come out of their holes. Spot a short Merina no word French again offered 20 k which was accepted. Had a nice session with her while I got money to pay her she asked me if I want her to sleep with me. I just offered 30 k which was happily accepted. Had two more shags and the experience as a whole was excellent. Barely any words exchanged she cuddled a lot while I was reading a book. Grabbing my hand to touch her boobies and ass. Fumbling her Lille and inserting some fingers no problem. Wanted to ride me too which I rarely experience good. Letting me inside her ass as well without any words exchanged is definitely a first for me and a very enjoyable one. Condoms never being mentioned two times now (the previous ones I mentioned). God in Europe I'm starving on such experiences and here is just the norm saying I love it would be an understatement. All that for 30 k no hassle just very smooth transaction.

Am typing too much and need to try out hotel breakfast.

[QUOTE=Bienenstich;2684249]Airfare being rather cheap at a little under 720 euro..[/QUOTE]Some guys just fly and enjoy while others monitor flights fare for months and ctrying about how expensive is it.

Why is that?

[QUOTE=Bienenstich;2684543]Had a nice short time with a rather pale skin girl which I picked up in sole hotel area. No word French but it just worked out very well. 30 k ST and a petit cadeux. LE pizza gastronomy acceptable meal but the ice-cream from glacier with the view of the city is the real deal. Relax for a bit until dark so putes come out of their holes. Spot a short Merina no word French again offered 20 k which was accepted. Had a nice session with her while I got money to pay her she asked me if I want her to sleep with me. I just offered 30 k which was happily accepted. Had two more shags and the experience as a whole was excellent. Barely any words exchanged she cuddled a lot while I was reading a book. Grabbing my hand to touch her boobies and ass. Fumbling her Lille and inserting some fingers no problem. Wanted to ride me too which I rarely experience good. Letting me inside her ass as well without any words exchanged is definitely a first for me and a very enjoyable one. Condoms never being mentioned two times now (the previous ones I mentioned). God in Europe I'm starving on such experiences and here is just the norm saying I love it would be an understatement. All that for 30 k no hassle just very smooth transaction.

Am typing too much and need to try out hotel breakfast.[/QUOTE]Nice report its good your enjoying. I see you like street girls at tana. Before few years was a bit better selection of street girls its was possible find more younger and good looking I done few of them also. But this time I didn't see anything I like. Biggest concentration of street girls probably on avenue de independence both sides of the street.

Hotel de L'avenue. It has new disco inside on second floor for a bit more rich Malagasies its cozy inside with good music comfortable sofas and dancers inside. When this disco is open next to it outside many young Malagasy people party also.

Younger street girls standing outside next to the disco. You can't miss it its closest disco from sole hotel just on the avenue de independence.

For a food you can try Irish pub its a new place very popular always packed with reasonable prices and many cute waiters girls. Enjoy!

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My last post didn't come through oh well.

Had a nice meal at LE petit verdaut. Foie Gras on pokpok sauce for entree with complimentary bread and butter. Main course steak Cebu grille avec gratin dauphinois and an excellent glass of wine. Came in at 86 k all in plus the taxi rt 10 k. Desert glacier ice cream. I wouldn't have minded eclairs but sadly no have. You'd have my fullest respect if you'd make that trip on pied starting off hungry and leaving over eaten lmao. Didn't feel like a soldier that day.

Gathered some info during the day. RT Nosy Be 800 k+ AR starting price pff. The one time I asked one guy for exchange rate on cash I get punished for it 3+ days. Daily harassment for asking the rate on my currency, oh well.

Have a chubby girl for 20 k. Instant regret tho bc I saw a pretty rather pale girl. ST itself was nice BBFS reverse missionary lots of joking around and laughing ending cip without any stress, nice. Go out ASAP to pull pale girl, no see but haute madamme in front of my hotel so I take her. Smells very nice dressed pretty as hell, hair done very well, coloured blonde sections straightened excellent. Rather pale too. I'm guessing 30+ ans which was confirmed. She tried renegotiating in room even tho we confirmed 15 k outside. She negotiated very well, trying to make use of condom and when I was just about to kick her out bc three plus times saying no is enough she just dumps the condom and sits on me sans capote. I come outside her no problem not too important to me. 30 k it is.

LT Girl from previous day approaches me very soon after I go out for the 3rd time of the night. I just wanted to meet pale girl but I was offered 5 k LT by said girl. I asked like three times to see if I don't misunderstand or something. Ok 5 k LT it is then instant boner. Geiz ist geil. Anal again a2 p too. BJ very well. She from Tamatave. Creampied two times and early Morning I release her with 5 k.

Had some meals in LE Gastromie Pizza, steak frite just too good, juice ok. Sandwich kebab surprisingly good. Sugarcane juice off street vendors meh. Had way better in Colombia and Thailand. With icecubes too here its just warm as piss. Borderline acceptable at best.

Have a betsileo girl from antsirabe for 2 h at 30 k. She talked a little too much but I took some pictures, she dressed very nice and took like 45 min to really warm up. Sex was very nice after I creampied her she just sat on top of me for well over 20 min talking to me asking me if she can kiss me bc allegedly she enjoys. I kiss her and get hard inside her. Exchange number and release her with said 30 k.

Good sleep I try to get to Tamatave. Have like some hours to kill so I propose to a girl I already knew at sapphire hotel 30 k for 5 h. Very nice afternoon session dumped three loads inside her, lots of fumbling cuddling and GFE sex and say ok am finished. Hotel 32 k and for the girl well she wasn't happy with 30 k, demanded 50 k I sigh but pay up.

Try to get to cotisse with a taxi after nightfall, agreed on 5 k, driver not happy with that wants 20 k, I pay up, annoying but it was through hotel and thus safe idk. Ride to Tamatave was rough, had a shit seat which was drenched in piss so sat in there for 14 h LOL. Checked in anjara hotel for 80 k bc flamboyant closed sadly. Many cyclopousse rides 500 AR is accepted 1 k is ok with me too.

La Terasse menu du jour salad, poisson cooked with butter in foil with complimentary veggies and a bananamousse dessert with a big THB at 21.5 k. For petit dejeuner omlette du fromage with some coffee and grenadelle just at 17.5 k. Selection of women rather rough from what I scouted so far, too tired so didn't get laid for a night.

I think you already now NIO, for me it is bc I enjoy searching for airfare and I don't have the strongest earning power. Would just fly private if I could lmao.

The tip with the disco is appreciated Pokeris I tried scouting it few times without much success sadly will have to try on a weekend or idk maybe its just not my thing. I don't drink too much so.

Killedsoul I also have yellow fever Asian girlies my favourite for sure. I don't bother too much with online dating or keeping contact, usually I prefer phone numbers or whatever is available. Not too sure about numbers or availability on girls of Asian descent at this moment sadly.

Thanks for the update. Glad to see you enjoying Mada and for unbelievable prices. The girls must be desperate.

For the 800 K RT to NB I assume it is for taxi brousse but what does +AR mean?

Lastly what on earth is killedsoul? Sounds like some old punk band!

Hi SE,

A killedsoul is a BM who pm me. I rather post public if is smth general. RT nosy be from tana 800 k+ AR is considering promo price so 800 k and a little over. ISO code is MGA but I've seen AR being mentioned here a lot which is fine as symbol ig. Sure my bad for typing AR instead or AR. And no that price is not taxi brousse its from tsaradia website or office for flight.

I am kinda surprised that one or two sentences from neddy69 haunt me for the past few days LOL. One has to suffer to enjoy femme malgache. The harassments from the beggars, the fuckin vendors with their dustmagnets, the scams, the negotiating, the inconvenience of moving around etc.

The budget he claims to use. Back home I thought absolute BS. But am here now and well one sure can enjoy mada to the fullest even with small money no doubts. Some guys just soldiers with high pain tolerance.

Anyways Finally made my first shag in the brothels near cotisse station, for that cheap price of big THB 3. 5 k I drank three am afraid LOL. Spent a wonderful afternoon there with a cheap shag onsite for 5 k and before it got dark took one to hotel. Was rather weird and I think Bush girl. She ask me what is a hairdryer she saw in bathroom lmao. No problems using her three times during her stay to deposit some cream inside her. Acceptable for 30 k. Much hassle no ID card cadeux 10 k pour reception no way of ever repeating that. Sex was nice don't get me wrong but everything else just no.

Met a civy girl for lunch. Took her to la terasse, menu du jour just excellent three course menu, simple, cost effective, beaucoup. Just grenadelle just too good. She orders a la carte and complains later I waste too much money on food lmao. Didn't have too many hopes but the curiosity just got the better of me. I have like 4 hours until she comes back to my hotel where I have to try get rid of her. Wasted a day scouting for info instead of whoring around in cotisse brothels oh well. Am definitely not a mrenternational who can sit in a girls apartment for weeks or months even, altho he did in other countries me thinks.

God French is such an awful language to learn. Spanish just went so much smoother even tho I started Spanish from 0 and French I had in school for 8 years LOL. But IMO it still just has the very nice charme of being the language of the noble. Langue de haute volee ou du haute bourgeoisie. Should be an acceptable place to learn french at best I think. Not too sure about other places for comparison unfortunately.

After spend 24 days in nosybe and fucked 21 diffrent girl I liked majority from facebook as clubs and ambataloaka walkers was a bit of low quality I start lack of the girls so I decide go check diffrent towns. Take taxibrouss from ankify to ambilobe for 20 k the road was not fixed but aint so bad it takes 3 and a half hours to reach ambilobe. Check in at hotel national they have diffrent room types start from 40 k up to 80 k it was not so bad for few nights. Went for a walk its a small town didint see any girls I liked so comeback hotel and start check my girls facebook contacts from ambilobe and start texting them for my disappointment most of the girls left ambilobe for study in mahajunga and Diego. I went later out again have some food have a walk but could see any girl I like again. I thought I will check the clubs at night not a big deal. But a bit later one girl who is my type reply to my message on fb and confirm she is at ambilobe.

I offer her to come my hotel but she was a bit shy at first and we agree to meet outside my hotel for a drink. For my surprise she knew a bit English as ambilobe have free English school and she went here for 3 month. We went to eat ice cream and talk a bit. Sweet girl just turn 18 years old 2 month ago and completely my type slim, no kids, nice firm breast. I ask do she has ID card she said not yet. Later we went my hotel reception seems they care even less about ID than me don't ask anything. We watch a movie after she agree stay all night and leave in a morning for school. Sex was good can't complain she make me cum 2 times. In a morning I put 40 k in her bag and told her its for food and for bajaj for school she even not look at money kiss me and left.

When the night come I decided I need to check clubs here as it was Friday night. From waitress in restaurants and facebook girls I get all names of the clubs but seems all swear the same just golden night and taxibe worth to visit and most busy. So around 23.00 pm I walk from my hotel to golden club order 1 thb small and sit inside was 6 people on Friday night so I finish a beer and left for taxibe for my surprise taxibe even was worst 4 people inside I order thb and sit next to the waitress at bar. I text her on my phone in french and ask her what's wrong why is no people here? She told me its Ramadan and already second week the same no people. I ask her which club I shoud go where is more people she suggest me golden night. I show her photo on my phone with empty club and she star laugh. Finish my beer and decide go back hotel walk out from taxibe at midnight and its no bajaj. Well what I can do? Walk all the way back my hotel it was not very comfortable walk in the middle of nowhere in the dark just dogs barking on me from all sides. Wake up in a morning and left for Diego with taxi brouss for 20 k from ambilobe to diego takes 7 hours in total as road not fixed same bad as before some places even worst. Ambilobe is worth to stay at least for one night if you passing by I just was not lucky with timing of ramadan. I think its a bit better city than ambanja have more restaurants, more clubs. For food was good kekasha restaurant and KBG. Also have brand new hotel name mouna with nice rooms similar look like tripolista hotel in tana. Rooms start from 90 k up to 120 k.

Again thanks to Pokeris for the detailed report. I had heard there was now a taxi be in Ambilobe but nothing reported until now. A shame it was nearly empty, I didn't realize Ramadan was observed very much there. Good place to break up the trip north. From your experience now it seems the taxi brousse from Tana to Diego is 30 hours instead of 28. What a fucked up place! Thar's why we love / hate it!

Through Rue de L'Independance without being harassed.

First of all. Every Mada newbie faces the same problem.

All street beggars and money changers immediately recognize a new face in town.

Now it depends on how you move and how you dress.

And which side of the road you use.

Always use the right side as you walk towards LE Glacier. The majority of the money changers are on the left side. Where the Fokontany (town hall) is.

The trick is to look, walk and behave like a destitute French minimum pensioner. A colon.

First walk slow, never respond to offers. Keep on walking just shake your head slowly. NEVER talk. Keep your head straight. Never wear a day pack, hipbag or the like. Dead give away for a tourist. Wear nondescript cloth. I wear a worn out cargo pant from CandA and plain bleached TShirt and a local straw head and Sandals. Look like you know exactly where you're again. Never stop and look, that's where the beggars strike. NEVER give any of them a cadeau.

Bon chance.

La Buse.

Who went through the same initiation process 7 years ago.

After 3 weeks in Toliara I took a flight to Nosy Be (one week) via Tana (3 days), and flew back to Toliara. That's 5 flights. And back to Tana

From Hotel recife in Toliara to the airport I took a PusPus 1 K to TaxiBruss station and from there 10 K taxi to airport. From Ivato I took a 30 K taxi to hotel tripolista 147 K per night. Then another 30 K taxi to the airport.

Arrive to Nosy I took 5 K minivan to Hell ville and then 2 k Bajaj to "Dar".

The way back from Nosy is 2 K Bajaj to Hell ville and 10 K Special Bajaj (not shared) to the Airport. Then the same 30 K taxi to hotel Tripolista and back to Airport. Arriving in Toliara, I took a 10 K taxi to the hotel recife. You need some tricks to get this price.

Toliara is the best accessible Mongering destination in Mada with zero effort to take a girl from the clubs. Then you go out of the club, a pack of 7 girls run after you. They agree to any price as they are dirt poor.

Hotel Recife has only one good room with brand new Aircon and firm Mattress. The entrance to the hotel Gym is 5 K per day or 50 K per month. The hotel is also used as a girls meeting place. Knocking on your door is common. Sweeming pool is very nice but I did not took the "risk" as the water look to me not so clear.

Again the only problem here is where to eat. If you think you sit in Gargotte and eat Brochettes like there is no tomorrow then think again. I only find 3 place that I know to avoide get sick, Pizza Gastro, Score supermarket, and hotel soavadia.

In Toliara make sure you secure everything both in the room and the shower when a girl comes to visit.

OK got rid of civy. God that was awful bc I am really not used to it. I thought it would be like an annoying ex who just can't move on but no worries really. Man, how can one be with one girl for such a long time. I even struggle with LT most of the times. Like I get annoyed very quickly if the girl has any demands, makes too much noise, talks too much, can't keep herself busy or whatnot. Maybe I just have serious attachment issues and barebacking prosies with closing the transaction immediately after is what god intended me to do.

So far maybe half the women just keep following up with demands and I get it, life is rough and such but I am not the red cross, the bahnhofsmission or what have you. Maybe am too cheap but honestly man most my offers get accepted immediately. Which usually is a sign of overpaying. I thought like its just the most inefficient market I ever done transactions in and negotiating with the complimentary behaviour I am used to don't yield the normal results. Still learning the ropes but lots of fun it sure is.

Anyways I went for nice dinner at la terasse. Steak Cebu avec sauce poivre vert et purree pomme de terre. Man French cuisine world class and the very best IMO for sure. Came in at a little shy of 30 k.

Next morning.

I eat un omelette du fromage bc just too good at la terasse 15,5 k. Came in a little too late later for menu du jour, wouldve been an excellent one oh no. La gastronomie pizza it is. Gratin de fruit de mer. Looks like catfood tastes like doggy. Order kebab sandwich tastes different than that from tana, acceptable ig. 29 k bill. Eat many icecreams too at 4 k each.

For the putes had a 5 k ST in cotisse tried to get another one but a mentally disabled pute talked too loud too long with complimentary attention whoring and thus killed it very fast for me. So I walk beach. Is some sort of festival very nice. Scouted la terasse and corner of queens bar and found a super sweet girl. Offer 20 k LT she only does ST, fine with me. Nice and clean behaviour throughout everything. Creampied her and just looking at it drool out of her too beautiful. Me thinks its normal that femme malgache very relaxed like that. Which a piggy pig like me enjoys to the fullest.

Am thinking to approach my last destination on my mada trip which is nosy be but info I gathered as gay as ru paul am afraid. I mean just look at ambatalook strip on google maps. Its useless. Absolute doggyfart. Where ATM, shopping groceries, restaurants etc. One bni ATM only? Rly nig. I need this desperately for decision making.

[QUOTE=Bienenstich;2686974]Am thinking to approach my last destination on my mada trip which is nosy be but info I gathered as gay as ru paul am afraid. I mean just look at ambatalook strip on google maps. Its useless. Absolute doggyfart. Where ATM, shopping groceries, restaurants etc. One bni ATM only? Rly nig. I need this desperately for decision making.[/QUOTE]You enjoy Tamatav and like adventures. Good! Why now spending another 1.500.000 MGA on airfare and almost 4 days travelling up and down to the Mada-Pattaya NosyBe? Stay in that area where you are. A lot to discover and enjoy.

Stay 2 or 3 nights over a weekend at the Hotel Ocean 501.70 k rooms with balcony and Oceanview. Plus good resto at the beach and girls like to come and stay there. And disco (new name) open at the wekend in walking distance.

Go north with Taxi brousse for another 4 or 5 nights at Fenerive. A couple of beachside bungalow hotels and girls at the beach to catch up with. They all still have chickenshit between their toes and not carry fake Gucci bags with them as in NB.

Or go south Canal Panglanes. You will be surprised to see the fishing ladies going naked into the sea to pull out the nets. Adventure you only find in Mada.

[QUOTE=Bienenstich;2686974]Am thinking to approach my last destination on my mada trip which is nosy be but info I gathered as gay as ru paul am afraid. I mean just look at ambatalook strip on google maps. Its useless. Absolute doggyfart. Where ATM, shopping groceries, restaurants etc. One bni ATM only? Rly nig. I need this desperately for decision making.[/QUOTE]Nosy be is a slum, 90% close. 100% run down and place to eat is a pure shit. Its not the place to be. But if you enjoy cottiss dogs I think you may find it a paradise. There is a new BMOI ATM next to hotel Ambatolok.

Toliara has more girls and more everything. At 1/4 of the price.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2686735]Arriving in Toliara, I took a 10 K taxi to the hotel recife. You need some tricks to get this price.

Hotel Recife has only one good room with brand new Aircon and firm Mattress. The entrance to the hotel Gym is 5 K per day or 50 K per month. The hotel is also used as a girls meeting place. Knocking on your door is common. Sweeming pool is very nice but I did not took the "risk" as the water look to me not so clear.
[/QUOTE]Could you please explain the trick to get a 10 k Taxi from Toliara Airport to Hotel Recife?

And when Hotel Recife has only one good room, what are the others like? Still acceptable? Could you please explain? I planed to stay there also in my upcoming trip.

My vote would probably be Tulear as well. Really cheap, about as non touristy as you could want and no lack of girls. It is boring as can be, but then again so is most of the country.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2687340]Could you please explain the trick to get a 10 k Taxi from Toliara Airport to Hotel Recife?

And when Hotel Recife has only one good room, what are the others like? Still acceptable? Could you please explain? I planed to stay there also in my upcoming trip.[/QUOTE]Airport to town is always harder than other way around, for various reasons. When you go out of Toliara Airport to the taxi area the "recommended price" is 25 K offered by the taxi Mafia. Then you need to go to the second tier, which is private drivers. It's easy to find but one of them refused my offer and suggested 15 K instead. (I never ask how much I just offer my price).

The trick is like that, I walked out of the airport about 150 m and waited. Several taxies passed and I offered 10 k and got refused. Eventually one taxi agreed and was about to open the door and let me in. Surprise! My price dropped now to 5 K, driver was thinking I am crazy and went without me. The reason is that I saw another passenger so this driver tried to overbook. 10 k is the price to the whole taxi, not a shared taxi.

After 2 min the guy that offered 15 k arrived and took me for 10 K alone. (not shared).

More complex trick is to get from Nosy Airport to Hell Ville for 5 K. Everyone will tell you that is impossible but it is. (how I did it? Next time).

Toliara clubs are amazing, no place in Mada comes even close to that. Hotel Recife enforce ID check after midnight but not during daytime, In reality the girls argue with the security and explain that ID was forgotten at home and they allowed to pass inside.

Went for another scout at queens and neptune same night. Didn't really feel like another ST but offered 10 k like cheapskate, girl no want. I up my offer, 20 k ST ok np. Marie a single mum, dressed well tho and rather pale we take those. Very sweet and everything was very quick she gonzo very quick fine with me idm at that price tag really. I mean can just barely eat a la carte for that.

Man the first cotisse girl made me sick, I have flu since three days. Also have some stomach issues ever since arrival in tnr, am not laying solid eggs idk what is the problem didn't eat anything sketchy and so I hope it will cure itself.

I want some broncleer, codein bc am beginning having issue with breathing.

Had good sleep, bc sleep alone.

Want to go in pool a little bit at Neptune, thought like 5 k but nope, 20 k nah I'm good. MCB ATM there no fee to pull I make a little dance of joy bc finally man. Cost me 24 k in pulling fees so far which couldve been avoided. BNI won't let me pull so idk if have fee or no. But have only mastercard so got to work with that. Can't expect everyone to have a charles schwab, DKB, Santander, viseca or what have you reimburse BS cards which sometimes even cost annually.

Menu du jour at la terasse. Salad for entree good. Boef bourgignon, get catapulted to heaven within first fork. Boef Cebu already tender but oh man am not a guide Michelin or mark wiens but this just haute cuisine! The carrots and the boef disintegrating instantly when chewing bc so tender. Red wine reduction oof, is there anything better, I don't think so. Pinapple flan for desert excellent and to wash all down a big glass of grenadine syrup and a just grenadelle bc too good. 21 k.

Go Cotisse for 500 AR to buy ticket back to tana for 25 k. Beautiful afternoon shag with some big tit single mum. She didn't go for 5 k so I just offered 10 k, I pay the room as well 1 k. She showered me outside with a bucket of water which was very enjoyable experience.

Have a very nice evening too bc the weather so nice today and there's still Easter event of some sort so it was packed to the fullest. Very lifely and enjoyable. Tried some Malagasy delicacy called kuba for 5 k which is some sugar and nuts wrapped in banana leaves and cooked in fire. Tastes like doggy. Just pure fume ew. Ice creams nice tho creme brulee ice cream 4 k and a small excellent green ice cream for 1 k. Some people still get hard wearing pampers in their face outside in some good countries and here its just no biggie. Life is good. Got smiled at alot and approached by smoking hot civvys. No french, very shy, not receptive, what a shame.

Some English speaking resident approached me and we talk for few hours until early evening when he gets cold LOL. Joking around, gossiping and gathering info lots of fun.

Eat an omelette du fromage for dinner. Meet a good french speaking pute with nice behaviour. She offered 80 k LT I counter with 20 k and we end up agreeing 40 k LT. She didn't mind walking with me to hotel. Wanted to watch porn with me ok np LOL. Creampied her. Very arousing bc it felt like a dreamy afternoon sesh. She wants to leave I say can go with 20 k idm. She accepts eventually. Wants my fb ok bye bye.

So many tolaria recommendations. Iirc pokeris enjoyed nosybe real good, 70-200 women in front of taxi be and daytime shags also available sounds perfect to me.

I will sure consider it. RT tulear tana with taxibrousse seems like very pure pain oof. Better be 5 k shags there ill read up a bit. Am also interested in the room number of the good room of hotel Recife.

Oh man the legendary Amadeuss checking in with some tips too ty. Great reports man enjoyed reading them.

[QUOTE=Bienenstich;2687499]So many tolaria recommendations. Iirc Pokeris enjoyed Nosybe real good, 70-200 women in front of taxi be and daytime shags also available sounds perfect to me.

I will sure consider it. RT tulear tana with taxibrousse seems like very pure pain oof. Better be 5 k shags there ill read up a bit. Am also interested in the room number of the good room of hotel Recife.

Oh mano the legendary Amadeuss checking in with some tips too ty. Great reports man enjoyed reading them.[/QUOTE]You not read accurate my report. I enjoyed Nosy Be as I have.

Many Nosy Be girls contacts from facebook you never see this girls in a taxibe or walking in ambataloaka. I like young girls between 18-23 years old without kids. The clubs was busy just weekends most of the times and weekdays is almost dead. If I don't have so many girls contacts from facebook my monger was disaster as I get just some girls from clubs I liked. Most girls quality here is low for my standards. But as I see you enjoy lowest quality girls from cottise brothels and street walkers next to the queens so I think you get same standard easy in Nosy Be. This girls is most desperate and go for 20 k short time at Nosybe at this moment. Another monger from forum was here for 1 week and run away as he just manage to get 1 girl here. So as you see if I have a good time here its not means another guy will have a same. Nosy Be is not same as was before it has 60-70 percent less girls. Maybe its change soon as flights start to come slowly already, hotels reopening and more girls will return.

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[QUOTE=Beno69;2687691]Just no moral at all!. You have the money to fly to Mada. You know they have enormous problems there. This ladies have mostly babies and family and they don't fuck because they love you so much. To pay them 5000 Arial or even 10000 is just a crime! Why you don't try Aethiopia (Tigris) - Somalia or Yemen. Maybe even cheaper? Disgusting people like you. If they start to be criminal against Tourist you don't have to wonder.[/QUOTE]Is 10 k ok? Or 20 k? For the moral aspect? Is for example 30 EUR in Europe ok, or 50 Euro or 100 Euro?

The question is whether he forces or cheats the girl. Nothing else. What is the alternate for the people in this country to little money? Of course, they will get no money. It's just a market question.

We could just hope that the now open borders will decrease the poverty and build up the hotspots for us. That will help the people in madagascar and us tourists for more possibilities and lesser crime.

Only my opinion.

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[QUOTE=NIO400;2686735]After 3 weeks in Toliara
Again the only problem here is where to eat. If you think you sit in Gargotte and eat Brochettes like there is no tomorrow then think again. I only find 3 place that I know to avoide get sick, Pizza Gastro, Score supermarket, and hotel soavadia..[/QUOTE]Only three places? Is L'Etoile de Mer or the restaurant at Hyppocampo no longer open?

Or did you get sickened eating at those two as well.

I am surprised you have not tried or do not like LE Jardin. It is probably the best value for money food wise in the entire place. On the other hand 3 years back I had a miserable case of food poisoning and I am positive I got it from eating there!

In any case I am looking forward to visiting in a few months. Perhaps I will check out the one good room at Recife as well!

Didn't shag for a little over 24 h bc had too much fun enjoying weather, festival and so on. Menu du jour at la terasse. Zuccini filled with onions and egg for entree, blanquette du poisson and a panna cotta for desert with some grenadine syrup at 18 k.

Met up with the resident from yesterday again. He told me how he almost got robbed when getting home yesterday which surprised me bc I gave him 1 k for tuktuk. He explained that the driver doesn't want to go in dark alley so he get dropped off at main street oof.

He show me uni campus in Tamatave. Lots of fun. Gossiping around with shy girls, taking pictures and exchanging fb. Getting approached by smiling girls asking if me vazaha. I just have to laugh. A student there show me his room. I enjoy the view a little too long bc the trees the birds, chickens, the Cebu cows and everything just very chill and convo in solid English very fun. Walk to stadium barikadimy. It feels very exotic for me bc never been to Africa before. A shithole par excellence, I love it. Get to touch some cute little Cebu cow bc I saw the peasant taking care of it. He laugh on my request but he just held it for me so I can pet it LOL. Take picture and it starts raining a bit. Go hotel with tuktuk do some grocery shopping and scout for a shag.

Scouted a doable Asian looking but chubby and rather pale girl. Wants 30 k ST I say plus tard je pense. Scout for half an hour from queens to taxi be and back. See a beautiful tarte noir, Asian descent also, dress well, smell nice, hair done well, nails decent. She agree 20 k ST. Nice load inside her. Pool on bed after I pull out. She behaves well so I offer 40 k LT which is quickly accepted.

Cum inside her one more time and in morning she leaves.

Tana it is today with cotisse and plan to go nosy be after a bit. Have mixed feelings because I didn't go bathing in river yet and is possible around this area in Tamatave.

Want putes de rue in tana bc I feel like they more hot there, especially the paler ones which there are way more of in tana.

Menu du jour at la terasse. Cauliflower cucumber salad for entree, alouette sans tetes with spaghett main course and some apple smoothie for desert. Solid 18 k.

Intended to go ask in the cottisse office when I can deposit bag but naturally *****d around there eventually haha. A beautiful tarte noir with very small beautiful tits accepts 10 k very quickly. I pre bought a bremium ST hotel for 6 h at 10 k to relax here until departure. Hotel lady very charmingly harasses me for more 5 k, I pay up.

Do a menage a troix with two known cotisse prosys for 20 k. Individually they were the best of the bunch but together sadly not. Takes longer for me to finish, idm. Quid pro quo is always fine. Chilled until 30 min before departure and left Tamatave for now.

Arrived in tana walk out of cotisse station to main street offer 5 k he wants 10 I say 7 and he accepts eventually. Asks me for more money in hotel I give him a friendly reminder what our agreement was and all good.

This is probably the thing I hate most here in mada the lack of public transport, bahtbus, jeepney or just anything where one doesn't need to haggle, speak or listen to stupid questions and offers. Just want my peace man.

Checked in LE relais Normandie hotel and oh man, I do like the corner room a lot. 70 k a night. The three receptionists speak English very well. Much better than sole at 95 k.

I want to mention a very nice convo I had with the resident from Tamatave. He told me he shag for 3 k, it is possible to get ugly for 1.5 k and the very maximum he pay 5 k. That is assuming 15 or 20 min, rubberless and including room. He also did it in tana for 3 k which surprised me bc I never read it anywhere and that the reason why most my offers are accepted so quickly. A solid meal costs 2 k so its not too little ig. Was confirmed with a pale girl I like around here and even when speaking with other girls they confirm. Not that I'm going to be running around offering 3 k but just as a FYI I put this here. Imo it shouldn't be more than double but its w / e. Have good success with offering 10 k and not so good ones with 5 so ig 10 is a decent vazaha starting offer anywhere.

Had some good meals in glacier downstairs for 8 k. Upstairs menu du jour costs 15 k but it is a menu not only one dish, didn't try yet but intend to. The prosys are rather hardcore there and not even more beautiful IMO. Better dressed all of them, hair done well ok but I can find cheaper at similar quality easily so I leave glacier punting to people who enjoy idc. They be demanding upwards of 50 k after I made my offers which I am assuming is paid idk.

Booked a Nosybe ambanja roundtrip for early may so can enjoy probably my favorite place tana for a while.

Spot a sweet single mum. She accepts 10 k. Wants to use a condom. I offer her to come outside and she happily agrees to sans capote. BJ a bit rough but she tried and I could thus enjoy it. Instantly jumps off when I didn't even hit point of no return but I always give sign early when I am about to come so my bad ig. Finish in manual mode in my hand. Not my proudest fap but it just happened to be like this LOL.

I spot the pale girl I wanted from my first few nights in tana. Dressed very pretty, nails done very good and hair perfect. Offer her 10 k she haggles around and wants 20 k. Agreed. It was a beautiful shag. She showers with me and I enjoy it so much. Can't remember when I had shower fun last time if I ever had any. She kisses well and her oral also very nice which has to be appreciated in mada. After I shag her a bit she wants to ride me and does it beautifully. Gives me a bit of oral again and I feel like I'm in heaven. Knock on door, I hesitantly ask who this and what he want. Ok he wrong room, well fuck off will ya. I kiss her and go down on her. Slowly stuck it inside her and finish there too. No stress watch it drool out. Shower fun again. Exchange info and I release her with 20 k and a small shampoo bottle which she was very happy about and gave me a DFK.

Go LE carre order LE French burger. Acceptable at best. Eclair for desert and a grenadine syrup coming in at 36 k.

Check indra, I like the place good music small so drink a coke for 5 k.

Spot a beautiful tarte noir wants 40 k. Nah I'm good. Checking hotel avenue for the 5th time. No monsier les shorts. OK man overpriced drinks and girls is all I've seen in there so far. In front of the doorstep people are starving and this guy doesn't even allow me to scout bc I wear shorts lmao.

Chill hotel for a bit to scout again, tarte noir from earlier still there approaches me and wants to come. Agreed 25 k. Wants to use condom unless I pay double. Ya surely not here in mada. I say its fine I'm happy with a bit of oral. After a couple min of sucer she just sits on me, less work ig. Come inside her she doesn't bother taking shower and sleeps very deep shortly after. I watch it drool out and sleep too. Early morning she leaves with 25 k.

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Take taxibrouss for 30 k today from ambilobe to vohemar. The route 70 percent is tarmac wide and nice best road I seen in mada another 25 percent road is untarmac yet but its flat and not bad. And probably 5 percent of the road was not so good. So in total from ambilobe to vohemar takes around 4 and half hour. I guess in 4-6 month its will be completely finish as roadworks still going.

Nice to see the roads being fixed up but what is the attraction to Vohemar? It looks like a small place in the middle of nowhere.

That said how is the Ambilobe to Diego road these days?

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2690032]Nice to see the roads being fixed up but what is the attraction to Vohemar? It looks like a small place in the middle of nowhere.[/QUOTE]It is the only way to go to Sambava and Antalaha by road which are nice places.

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[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2690247]It is the only way to go to Sambava and Antalaha by road which are nice places.[/QUOTE]Yes you are right vohemar was a stop for few nights to split the route to sambava and later on for antalaha. Vohemar- sambava 150 km trip with taxibrouss takes around 5 or 5 hours and a half the as they make many stops to droping and picking up people. Ths road was not so bad not so good just normal. So if someone plan take ambilobe-sambava route direct its will be around 10 hours with taxi brouss.

[QUOTE=Beno69;2690288]This is what I want to show with my post!

[URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2022/4/26/new-harvest-brings-hope-spectre-of-more-despair-in-madagascar[/URL][/QUOTE]You are a monger and that's why you post here to exchange experiences or contributing helpful news to others.

But we are not here to discuss social injustice or climate change. There are other channels do do that. Any solution to those inequalities will involve both governmental change and societal reform. With contributing 50 k instead of 20 k MGA's to a street girl you will not change that. On the contrary, you will create more dependency on external help.

If you are so keen to become a good-doer, I can name you several NGO's where you can work as volunteer helping local people adjusting their agricultural system to the climate changes. Not with money and "wise" words, but with action.

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Again and again we read the outcry about the guy ho is overpaying the girls and eventually spoiling the so called market. It is his money of what he is free what to do with it, what he wants to.
Do not play the cheap charlie in a cheap country. Be generous as you can afford it, can you?

Some obviously can not, they are the victims of " geiz ist geil " them self in the country were they come from. Neckermann on tour is bringing them globally in miss credit.

Next to it is the absence of any human respect with speaks for it self.

As for mada it pays well off be generous and treat people with respect if you can or stay away since you spoil it with your mentality.

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[QUOTE=Tinte;2692351]Again and again we read the outcry about the guy ho is overpaying the girls and eventually spoiling the so called market. It is his money of what he is free what to do with it, what he wants to.
Do not play the cheap charlie in a cheap country. Be generous as you can afford it, can you?

Some obviously can not, they are the victims of " geiz ist geil " them self in the country were they come from. Neckermann on tour is bringing them globally in miss credit..[/QUOTE]"Antananarivo, May 1, 8:53 pm The lowest wages are rising. The President of the Republic announces that the minimum wage in the private sector will increase from ariary 200,000 to ariary 250,000. In the public sector, the increase is 25% for the lowest salaries."

In your Neckermann country its comparable to 2000 EU. Do you pay in a Laufhaus then quarter of this monthly salary to support the poor ladies from Rumania there?

Whatever you give to your lady and she is happy about it, is acceptable. But avoid to feed the gold diggers. Aside of this leeches waiting in the big discos to suck your money-blood, there are so many wonderful ladies very willing to make you happy if your treat them like a gentleman.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2692782]In your Neckermann country its comparable to 2000 EU. Do you pay in a Laufhaus then quarter of this monthly salary to support the poor ladies from Rumania there?

Whatever you give to your lady and she is happy about it, is acceptable. But avoid to feed the gold diggers. Aside of this leeches waiting in the big discos to suck your money-blood, there are so many wonderful ladies very willing to make you happy if your treat them like a gentleman.[/QUOTE]Too clean. Not only an intellectual response but also a mindset in which you walk through the world with open eyes instead of being a bigot.

Only thing I personally miss is critique for the fact that tinte and golf spoke in imperative while not being in any position to do so. Telling others what to do with their resources just reminds me of a spoiled brat. If I would want to get commanded around ID get a wife.

Life is good down here, enjoying central highlands with a private driver in a 4 x 4 at 130 k per day plus fuel just amazing. Can't eat too much tarte noir so took a sweet merina with me too.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2692782]"Antananarivo, May 1, 8:53 pm The lowest wages are rising. The President of the Republic announces that the minimum wage in the private sector will increase from ariary 200,000 to ariary 250,000. In the public sector, the increase is 25% for the lowest salaries."

In your Neckermann country its comparable to 2000 EU. Do you pay in a Laufhaus then quarter of this monthly salary to support the poor ladies from Rumania there?

Whatever you give to your lady and she is happy about it, is acceptable. But avoid to feed the gold diggers. Aside of this leeches waiting in the big discos to suck your money-blood, there are so many wonderful ladies very willing to make you happy if your treat them like a gentleman.[/QUOTE]Yes people are free to do what they want with their money.

But keep your guard up and pay for the services just don't get fooled else might be missing a kidney.

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