East China - Shanghai

It took the taxi driver a while to find the address, but thanks to the previous forum posts I knew I was at the right place once I saw the outline of the hotel. Arrived about 11:30pm on a Wed night. Changed into robes at the locker / change area with male attendant standing next to me, which felt weird for sure. Cell phone can be taken in a small plastic zipper bag but wallet was asked to be left behind in the locker. Chose to skip the wet area and was taken downstairs in a large waiting area with about 20 recliners, and was offered choice of drink (soda, beer) while waiting. Waited about 10 minutes and was taken to a brightly lighted room down at the end of the hall where a lineup of 12 15 girls were standing, mostly 5 to 7. Wasn't exactly overwhelmed with the choices, but didn't want to wait another 30 minutes so picked #615.

Soapy felt great but was over pretty quickly. Service-wise felt like she's following a routine and trying to get it over quickly as possible. BBBJ was decent followed by various positions. Then she was happy lying there and resting. Afterwards she told me I was the 8th customer of the day, which probably explains why she appeared so tired. Gave me the impression that the standard session is 60 min and helped me put on the robes. But I didn't feel like arguing as previous posts had mentioned 90 min.

In the change room on the way out, found out from the male attendant that girls would be fined if customer left before 60 min, but session is up to 90 min. Also he mentioned better selection would be in early afternoon when they opened, or after midnight. Per given night probably 50 60 girls are there.

Overall the experience was mediocre this time but I'm probably going to visit again at some point if I go back to SH.

It has been a couple of years since I have visited Shanghai. I used to go to the Shanghai Hotel Sauna on the 2nd floor, but undersatnd it closed due to the EXPO. Does anyone know if it has re-opened? I searched the forum and the latest report I found was dated July 2010.

Thoughts anyone?

I was walking down ZhangYang Lu near BaBaiBan at midnight when I noticed a line up of taxis. They must be waiting for people coming out of somewhere. Then I notice the 2 MPs down the driveway to the right of Everbright Bank. One on the ground floor to the right and the other to the left and up the stairs. Went to the 2nd floor to check the menu.

The top of the line was 198 for an hour and a half massage. After dropping my shoes at the front, I was led back to a room. Low massage bed in front and a wooden soak tub behind a half wall. Soon after a girl showed up (no picking). She was fine. A 7/10 from GuangXi province. Took me a few minutes to get a handle on her Guangxi country accent.

Stripped down and had to put on paper shorts. Into the tub I went, where she washed me all over paying special attention to xiao didi. The conversation led to a question of zouai. Answer, a big smile. I did not have a jimmy hat, so off she went to get one. On return, out came a very nice set of C cups with pencil eraser nipples. She liked them well massaged on the rough side. I was still on the tub, and off came my shorts, as she worked my boy. Then hopped on out for a little dry off, BBBJ and DATY. Bent her over the wooden tub to do her. She would not use the bed. We had to stay behind the half wall. It was a bit cramped, wet floor, etc. I felt like I was doing an old girlfriend on the locker room.

After a wash-up, it was to the massage bed, where I got a nice oil massage. After the "fonggoulai", more front side massage finishing up with a HJ. One of the better I have had in a while. Tipped her up 300 for the FS. She offered up an off-site, full night for 1000. Got her number and will try it later.

I think that the HJ is included in the rack rate, as is a prostate massage. I was not flying low to find out. I wanted to see what was available on premises for the boys. Given that there was a jimmy hat dispenser at the bottom of the stairs near the front door, I should have known the service level. Enjoy.

All the WG's were rounded up and checked / interrrogated outside for quite awhile. Many were sent away and a few were detained. A lot were able to go back in. Very interesting occurance.

So I will be staying at the Westin at the Bund. Just looking for late afternoon or early evening Saunas. From reading a ton of posts, let me make sure I got this right.

My best bets are the following;

1. Go to the Heting Elite Sauna. Only 10 minutes from the hotel. 3rd floor 777 Sipang road.

2. Feng Ding Yuan Club. Close to my hotel but maybe no lineup. Get what you get.

3. Bodi. More like a 20 minute cab ride but best in Shanghai. Enter from outside on the left hand side of the building.

4. Sacrosa. Impossible to find.

5. Jin Jiang Oriental Hotel. Dream Spa? Is this as good as option 1, 2, or 3? And is it Jing Jiang or Jin Jiang?

None of these places should get me for more than 800 rmb, right?

Any BBS in Shanghai open during the day? I went to Chengjiaqiao around 3pm and nothing open. Been there many times at night and love it. But need something fast and cheap during the day sometimes. Everything at Zhaohua and Dingxi also closed. Sauna is Royalston Zhongshan Park closed. Geez, what's happening to this city? Any good BBS places further out of town?

Visiting Bodi recently one evening around 10:30pm. Selection was amazing (about 25 girls in the lineup). Chose # 563 from lineup (about an 8 with fake school girl glasses). After I choose her and was walking out, a perfect 10 walked in the room. I should have changed my selection.

Standard service, but very rushed. She said I was her 3rd customer today. We didn't get along well. Hard to get 2 shots from this girl. I usually don't pick bad ones, but I did this time.

I will try Heting on my next visit.

Fitz

[QUOTE=Bluejay55; 1171118]It took the taxi driver a while to find the address, but thanks to the previous forum posts I knew I was at the right place once I saw the outline of the hotel. Arrived about 11:30pm on a Wed night. Changed into robes at the locker / change area with male attendant standing next to me, which felt weird for sure. Cell phone can be taken in a small plastic zipper bag but wallet was asked to be left behind in the locker. Chose to skip the wet area and was taken downstairs in a large waiting area with about 20 recliners, and was offered choice of drink (soda, beer) while waiting. Waited about 10 minutes and was taken to a brightly lighted room down at the end of the hall where a lineup of 12 15 girls were standing, mostly 5 to 7. Wasn't exactly overwhelmed with the choices, but didn't want to wait another 30 minutes so picked #615.

Soapy felt great but was over pretty quickly. Service-wise felt like she's following a routine and trying to get it over quickly as possible. BBBJ was decent followed by various positions. Then she was happy lying there and resting. Afterwards she told me I was the 8th customer of the day, which probably explains why she appeared so tired. Gave me the impression that the standard session is 60 min and helped me put on the robes. But I didn't feel like arguing as previous posts had mentioned 90 min.

In the change room on the way out, found out from the male attendant that girls would be fined if customer left before 60 min, but session is up to 90 min. Also he mentioned better selection would be in early afternoon when they opened, or after midnight. Per given night probably 50 60 girls are there.

Overall the experience was mediocre this time but I'm probably going to visit again at some point if I go back to SH. [/QUOTE]It seems to be standard practice among Shanghai saunas to leave the wallet in the locker.

The management doesn't want the customer tipping the girls so they get to control how much the girl makes.

Bodi seems like one of the last few places that allow the customer to carry the cellphone around.

50. 60 girls per night? The largest lineup I've seen at Bodi in the afternoon was about 30.

2PM is a pretty good time to go there if you can.

Most of these sauna places have different standard sessions depending on how many customers are waiting.

[QUOTE=Ocean25;1171365]Any BBS in Shanghai open during the day? I went to Chengjiaqiao around 3pm and nothing open.Been there many times at night and love it.But need something fast and cheap during the day sometimes.Everything at Zhaohua and Dingxi also closed.Sauna is Royalston Zhongshan Park closed.Geez, what's happening to this city? Any good BBS places further out of town?[/QUOTE]You might try anyuan lu (west of changde lu). And then there is one on xikang lu (north of anyuan lu). Nothing fancy of course, but efficient.

[QUOTE=Ocean25;1171365]Any BBS in Shanghai open during the day? I went to Chengjiaqiao around 3pm and nothing open.Been there many times at night and love it.But need something fast and cheap during the day sometimes.Everything at Zhaohua and Dingxi also closed.Sauna is Royalston Zhongshan Park closed.Geez, what's happening to this city? Any good BBS places further out of town?[/QUOTE]Pudong BBS. Recently found a strip of BBS just north on Pudong Nan Lu from the corner of Pudong Nan Lu and PuJian Lu, on a small street named NingYang Lu. There are four in a row. If you are staying at the Pudong Sheraton, it is a short walk. Did not sample the goods, as I was on a run and dripping with sweat. The talent looked to be in the 6-8 range. It was about 4pm when I went by.

Presently in the hotel, staying for a week.

First night I arrived late and went down to the Irish Pub.

It took less then 10 seconds to be approached by 4 WG's.

Politely declined but had an eye on a solid 8 with a pair of C-cups, real not even hidden.

Bar staff spent half their time chatting with the girls so it was no secret what they were doing.

After eating and a few drinks I smiled at my girl and she came right over.

Started at 1000 for a sexy massage but wouldn't budge below 600.

Said goodnight and hit the sack.

Next night sat drinking in the bar (my normal habit) and still there, she stared and pouted all evening.

Around 11:00 invited to have a drink as the bar was empty of people.

Chatted for 15 minutes and finally she said 500, my magic number.

Away we went, stopping only to register her at the front desk at the insistence of the night manager.

She left 2 hours later in no rush. DATY, CBJ, FS. Best of all the boobs were real.

Also for those who care, I was accosted several times in my walks outside by touts.

Its available for those who want it.

[QUOTE=Nobody Special; 1171489]Presently in the hotel, staying for a week.

First night I arrived late and went down to the Irish Pub.

It took less then 10 seconds to be approached by 4 WG's.

Politely declined but had an eye on a solid 8 with a pair of C-cups, real not even hidden.

Bar staff spent half their time chatting with the girls so it was no secret what they were doing.

After eating and a few drinks I smiled at my girl and she came right over.

Started at 1000 for a sexy massage but wouldn't budge below 600.

Said goodnight and hit the sack.

Next night sat drinking in the bar (my normal habit) and still there, she stared and pouted all evening.

Around 11:00 invited to have a drink as the bar was empty of people.

Chatted for 15 minutes and finally she said 500, my magic number.

Away we went, stopping only to register her at the front desk at the insistence of the night manager.

She left 2 hours later in no rush. DATY, CBJ, FS. Best of all the boobs were real.

Also for those who care, I was accosted several times in my walks outside by touts.

Its available for those who want it.[/QUOTE]If you are interested in a wing man, a drinking buddy and someone to go to the sauna with, I will be there next Saturday, July 9. You still there next week?

Don

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1170989]I think they are mostly legit, but I has a buddy who had a HE in Shanana a while back. Not sure today.

Another place nearby is My Spa on MingYue Lu and BaihuaLu. It is next to a DVD shop. Have had a reasonable FS there. Number 9 was a good fun gal. From the Ramada, walk past Carrefour, turn left on YunShan Lu, then a right on MingYue Lu, then another block or so. On the righthand side.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Applecrate; 1170891]On the corner Sha Na Na is legit. Congen next to it. Also legit. And Bamboo next to it. Legit.

But.

You can turn right on hongfeng lu and walk for five minutes and find what you're looking for. As you walk along hongfeng lu, you will pass a church, then after that, a Parkway Health clinic. Another 100 meters and you are at the highway four lane yangao lu. Cross it. Just as you cross there are two newly renovated sports bars (usually with filipinas) on the right. Just past them is a massage joint. Look over to you left at the side street and you will see a couple more massage joints. If you contine stright ahead for another 3-4 minutes, you come to jintai lu. Turn right and walk down it to find four or five barber shops on the left hand side. A couple of massage joints on the right hand side.

This is area is local. Have fun with all the fres off the farm talent. They have the best "5s" and "6s" in town! Just don't expect any 7s or above unless it's really your lucky day.[/QUOTE]My experience is that the three places on Biyun Road, mentioned above, are indeed legitimate (but I sometimes wonder why Sha Na Na is always so busy. Is there a door that's closed to foreigners?) , but the interestingly-named Rivulet House, just around the corner on Hong Feng Road, can be relied on for a HE. There are other possibilities further along Hong Feng Road. I have found Pattaya Salon, despite its name, to be legit, but I have not tried another which has recently opened.

Had a few chances to visit Shanghai. First trip, tried Sacrosa. Great directions- thanks all. Visit was actually quite good. Line-up was only 2 girls, a little akward.

Third trip, tried it again. Experience was very sub-par. Sorry, don't remember her number, but here's what happened. After the shower and a short wait in the TV room, went

For a line-up of 4. Picked one, off we went. Got through a very mediocre massage, got down to business. Afterwards, had some time left, but I was tired and ready to leave.

She insisted I stay. She sat on the side of the bed and just tapped my leg with one hand endlessly. Pointless. Tried again to leave, but she keeps pointing at the clock.

Eventually I just got tired of the game and left, probably 5 minutes before her designated time.

Then tried Bodi for the first time. Taxi driver scammed me somehow, pressing a button that essentially doubled the rate on the way there. I couldn't do much about it, but I

Did note his license plate and made sure he knew I was doing it after I paid the damage. Pick your battles. Went into the lobby at the Bodi hotel. No signs of a sauna. Boldly asked the nice.

Lady there- do you have a sauna here? She played dumb. Nope. Not here. Anywhere nearby? Still dumb. The guy in the lobby threw me a life preserver and said something to

Her, and then she said "if you go out and turn right, you might see someone". Found it quickly after that. Lineup was like 20. Wow. Picked one that was making the effort

To smile. Great stuff. First time on the wet bed- interesting but not necessarily something I'd have to repeat. Rest of it was spectacular. For me, no more Sacrosa. It's.

Bodi now.

[QUOTE=Doley91; 1171638]If you are interested in a wing man, a drinking buddy and someone to go to the sauna with, I will be there next Saturday, July 9. You still there next week?

Don[/QUOTE]Sorry Don I am out of here on Sunday.

But in the interim I am takin a few for the team.

Shanghangin said.

"Pudong BBS. Recently found a strip of BBS just north on Pudong Nan Lu from the corner of Pudong Nan Lu and PuJian Lu, on a small street named NingYang Lu."

I wandered by NingyangLu at a little before noon today.

3 of the 4 shops were already in operation.

Only the mamason in the first one tried to waved me in as I walked by.

Sorry guys, I didn't go in as the girls all looked like they were from the bottom of the gene pool.

Perhaps later.

Last night let a female tout send a girl to my room. Promised a young student.

500RMB and a 9/10 arrived at my door. Tall and A-cups, a really stunning beauty.

I was listening to Lady Gaga when she arrived and immediately she went into strip tease mode.

Alas as the Borg would say, resistance was futile.

By the time she was naked I was ready to go.

Didn't get mamason's number.

Slept like a baby.

And today went all out for my first oil massage on Laoshan road.

Sign outside just said massage but business card Says "Leilei Foot Leisure Hall"

Was invited in by a beauty but passed onto another younger cutie after selecting the Euro oil massage 300rmb.

Room was really small but clean. Shower, tub and massage table barely fit.

Conveniently cloths hanger covered door window when used.

She was fascinated by my beard and hairy chest during the massage.

Touching was no issue but she kept saying "tip, tip" each time.

The massage was nothing special and she was willing to get undressed for 200rmb more but wanted 400rmb for a HJ.

Only spoke a few words of english but before leaving put her number in my cell phone.

I guess options are available but quite expensive.

Only one day left. What will I do next?

[QUOTE=Doley91; 1171638]If you are interested in a wing man, a drinking buddy and someone to go to the sauna with, I will be there next Saturday, July 9. You still there next week?

Don[/QUOTE]Sorry Don I am out of here on Sunday.

But in the interim I am takin a few for the team.

Shanghangin said.

"Pudong BBS. Recently found a strip of BBS just north on Pudong Nan Lu from the corner of Pudong Nan Lu and PuJian Lu, on a small street named NingYang Lu."

I wandered by NingyangLu at a little before noon today.

3 of the 4 shops were already in operation.

Only the mamason in the first one tried to waved me in as I walked by.

Sorry guys, I didn't go in as the girls all looked like they were from the bottom of the gene pool.

Perhaps later.

Last night let a female tout send a girl to my room. Promised a young student.

500RMB and a 9/10 arrived at my door. Tall and A-cups, a really stunning beauty.

I was listening to Lady Gaga when she arrived and immediately she went into strip tease mode.

Alas as the Borg would say, resistance was futile.

By the time she was naked I was ready to go.

Didn't get mamason's number.

Slept like a baby.

And today went all out for my first oil massage on Laoshan road.

Sign outside just said massage but business card Says "Leilei Foot Leisure Hall"

Was invited in by a beauty but passed onto another younger cutie after selecting the Euro oil massage 300rmb.

Room was really small but clean. Shower, tub and massage table barely fit.

Conveniently cloths hanger covered door window when used.

She was fascinated by my beard and hairy chest during the massage.

Touching was no issue but she kept saying "tip, tip" each time.

The massage was nothing special and she was willing to get undressed for 200rmb more but wanted 400rmb for a HJ.

Only spoke a few words of english but before leaving put her number in my cell phone.

I guess options are available but quite expensive.

Only one day left. What will I do next?

[QUOTE=Doley91; 1171638]If you are interested in a wing man, a drinking buddy and someone to go to the sauna with, I will be there next Saturday, July 9. You still there next week?

Don[/QUOTE]Sorry Don I am out of here on Sunday.

But in the interim I am takin a few for the team.

Shanghangin said.

"Pudong BBS. Recently found a strip of BBS just north on Pudong Nan Lu from the corner of Pudong Nan Lu and PuJian Lu, on a small street named NingYang Lu."

I wandered by NingyangLu at a little before noon today.

3 of the 4 shops were already in operation.

Only the mamason in the first one tried to waved me in as I walked by.

Sorry guys, I didn't go in as the girls all looked like they were from the bottom of the gene pool.

Perhaps later.

Last night let a female tout send a girl to my room. Promised a young student.

500RMB and a 9/10 arrived at my door. Tall and A-cups, a really stunning beauty.

I was listening to Lady Gaga when she arrived and immediately she went into strip tease mode.

Alas as the Borg would say, resistance was futile.

By the time she was naked I was ready to go.

Didn't get mamason's number.

Slept like a baby.

And today went all out for my first oil massage on Laoshan road.

Sign outside just said massage but business card Says "Leilei Foot Leisure Hall"

Was invited in by a beauty but passed onto another younger cutie after selecting the Euro oil massage 300rmb.

Room was really small but clean. Shower, tub and massage table barely fit.

Conveniently cloths hanger covered door window when used.

She was fascinated by my beard and hairy chest during the massage.

Touching was no issue but she kept saying "tip, tip" each time.

The massage was nothing special and she was willing to get undressed for 200rmb more but wanted 400rmb for a HJ.

Only spoke a few words of english but before leaving put her number in my cell phone.

I guess options are available but quite expensive.

Only one day left. What will I do next?

[QUOTE=Carage; 1171399]It seems to be standard practice among Shanghai saunas to leave the wallet in the locker.

The management doesn't want the customer tipping the girls so they get to control how much the girl makes.

Bodi seems like one of the last few places that allow the customer to carry the cellphone around.

50. 60 girls per night? The largest lineup I've seen at Bodi in the afternoon was about 30.[/QUOTE]Just a number I was told but no way to know for sure. I was told they don't go all out at the same time. Anyways guess doesn't hurt to be on good terms with attendants there and might just get some useful info to put on the forum.

[QUOTE=WillyWonker; 1171777]Taxi driver scammed me somehow, pressing a button that essentially doubled the rate on the way there. I couldn't do much about it, but I

Did note his license plate and made sure he knew I was doing it after I paid the damage. Pick your battles. Went into the lobby at the Bodi hotel. No signs of a sauna. Boldly asked the nice.[/QUOTE]Shanghai Taxi fares increase drastically at 11 pm, could it be you were travelling after this time?

Fz

Was at Manhattan last night looking for some different fun before I head out of China on an extended biz trip. Chatted with some viet gals around 12:30. Their pricing was off the chart. 1000 for an hour. 2500 for the night. Was interested, but not that interested. Do not accept these kind of prices. We need to work together to keep mongering affordable. I bailed out and hooked up with one of my regular take-out Chinese massage gals. Total damage: 400 for a 3 hour FS sauna style GFE. Had hoped to have viet, but not at that level of pricing.

[QUOTE=Nobody Special; 1171842]Sorry Don I am out of here on Sunday.

"Pudong BBS. Recently found a strip of BBS just north on Pudong Nan Lu from the corner of Pudong Nan Lu and PuJian Lu, on a small street named NingYang Lu."

I wandered by NingyangLu at a little before noon today.

3 of the 4 shops were already in operation.

Only the mamason in the first one tried to waved me in as I walked by.

Sorry guys, I didn't go in as the girls all looked like they were from the bottom of the gene pool.

Perhaps later.[/QUOTE]NS. Thanks for that update. When I went by, there was some talent. Your mileage may vary.

[QUOTE=Nobody Special; 1171842]And today went all out for my first oil massage on Laoshan road.

Sign outside just said massage but business card Says "Leilei Foot Leisure Hall"

Was invited in by a beauty but passed onto another younger cutie after selecting the Euro oil massage 300rmb.

Room was really small but clean. Shower, tub and massage table barely fit.

Conveniently cloths hanger covered door window when used.

She was fascinated by my beard and hairy chest during the massage.

Touching was no issue but she kept saying "tip, tip" each time.

The massage was nothing special and she was willing to get undressed for 200rmb more but wanted 400rmb for a HJ.

Only spoke a few words of english but before leaving put her number in my cell phone.

I guess options are available but quite expensive.

Only one day left. What will I do next?[/QUOTE]Had the same experience at that place, as I had posted earlier. Seemed promising, cute girls, giving a phone number, but expensive for the lowest level of service. I won't go back. You would have been better off in the MS places at WeifengLu and PudongNan Lu.

I'm relatively new to Shanghai and started to read reports on this web site. I'm a newbie and did not want to try out and of the the FS places, instead opting for just a massage with a HE. There are several positive reviews of Jinlin Yangsheng so I headed down there at about noon today. It was easy to find based on the pictures they have on Google. I walked in and a man behind the desk pointed to a menu. There were several massages for 338 RMB and he suggested one that had to do with sexual health or something. I believe that this is the one that the others on this site have commented on.

I was led down a set of stairs and place in a private room. The room had a bed and a corner shower. I sat there for a moment and a relatively young nice looking girl entered the room. Unfortunately, she did not speak a word of English and I no very little Mandarin. And none of my Mandarin words deal with sex at this point! She pointed to the shower and proceeded to take off my clothes and get in. I was a little nervous, having not done this before, and the warm water helped calm me down a little.

I got out of the shower and the time was about 12:15. I dried off and she asked me to lay on my stomach. She started to massage my back and did this for maybe half an hour. Not much ass play, just an occasional touch but no penetration. Unlike what I think others have said, she did not get up on the table and put my legs over her legs when I was on my stomach.

She then had me turn over and proceeded to massage my chest and stomach. I started to get pretty aroused when she massaged my lower stomach and then she moved to my legs. Not quite so erotic! Eventually, she did get on the table and put my legs over her legs and proceeded to give me a HJ with some ass play. Again, no penetration just some light touching. I would have preferred more. She then got off the table and standing to the side continued to give me a hand job.

She then stopped and started speaking to me in Mandarin. She may have asked me several questions, but I know she was asking me if I wanted to touch her breasts based on her movement. I could not tell if she was telling me I could but it would be more money or if she was just asking me if I wanted to touch her. Just prior to that my hand was on her inner thigh and it was hard to tell if she was okay with this or not. For all I know one of her comments could have been to keep my hands off that region. Who knows. Anyway, since we could not communicate she continued on with the HJ until I finally came.

I would say that it was very relaxing and the HJ was very well done. I would have preferred more ass play and a little slower pace. She finished in one hour and it was suppose to be a 100 minute massage, but I guess I control some of that timing.

I'll go back at some point and give it another try.

Sorry, but this Story is absolutely real. I am a student from Germany and I have no interest to defame the Lady Gaga Bar! This is only the short Version of the story. I posted it because I want you to be aware of this.

Since these day I avoid to drink Corona beer, especially with a bitter lemon inside. This lemon should hide the different taste from the knockout drops. By the way, it was my first beer at that evening and I never took any other drugs!

[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu; 1169256]This same story with the same details was posted back on the 11th, on that site that was advertising here. I have to post the link unfortunately so you can read it (it's made as a comment on that site) :

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/english/girls-bars/lady-gaga-bar/[/url]

It's suspicious to me because it seems unreasonable that a well known bar could do this more than once and not get into ridiculous amounts of trouble. Its suspicious that it's being posted here today. It's suspicious that two sips were enough to render you barely able to escape. It's also suspicious that the entire internet doesn't contain any complaints about this bar doing this other than this one story. Google "knockout drops" +"lady gaga bar" to see for yourself.

I call BS.[/QUOTE]

Taxi driver scammed me somehow, pressing a button that essentially doubled the rate on the way there.

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao; 1171949]Shanghai Taxi fares increase drastically at 11 pm, could it be you were travelling after this time?

Fz[/QUOTE]Originally Posted by WillyWonker

This is a real scam. When I was first here, it got me a couple of times. Lesson learned: don't talk on the phone, or text, while you are in the cab; watch the meter. They have a clicker that sends extra pulses to the meter to advance the distance. If they see you are paying attention, they don't do it. If someone cheats you, call the Shanghai call center. They can help you. The number is in most cabs on the back of the driver seat, a six digit number beginning with 962 and ending with 288. They have people that speak most languages. Be sure you get a complete receipt off the meter; don't let the cab driver deface it or tear off the cab number. Penalties for drivers doing this scam are severe.

[QUOTE=Nobody Special; 1171489]Presently in the hotel, staying for a week.

First night I arrived late and went down to the Irish Pub.

It took less then 10 seconds to be approached by 4 WG's.

Politely declined but had an eye on a solid 8 with a pair of C-cups, real not even hidden.

Bar staff spent half their time chatting with the girls so it was no secret what they were doing.

After eating and a few drinks I smiled at my girl and she came right over.

Started at 1000 for a sexy massage but wouldn't budge below 600.

Said goodnight and hit the sack.

Next night sat drinking in the bar (my normal habit) and still there, she stared and pouted all evening.

Around 11:00 invited to have a drink as the bar was empty of people.

Chatted for 15 minutes and finally she said 500, my magic number.

Away we went, stopping only to register her at the front desk at the insistence of the night manager.

She left 2 hours later in no rush. DATY, CBJ, FS. Best of all the boobs were real.

Also for those who care, I was accosted several times in my walks outside by touts.

Its available for those who want it.[/QUOTE]Tonite she was still there.

Gave her a glass of wine and asked if I could have a photo.

Results attached!

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1171974]NS. Thanks for that update. When I went by, there was some talent. Your mileage may vary.

Had the same experience at that place, as I had posted earlier. Seemed promising, cute girls, giving a phone number, but expensive for the lowest level of service. I won't go back. You would have been better off in the MS places at WeifengLu and PudongNan Lu.[/QUOTE]Hey ShangHangin,

I did a search for Weifenglu and PudongNan but didn't find any posts?

So I did the next best thing and hit the MP on Zhongyang behind the evergreen Bank.

Went up to the 2nd floor, rubber shoes on and away we went.

Not a single word of english spoken but the spinner I got new what I was there for.

Never got FS or even a CBJ but she wouldn't leave the little guy alone.

Pulled underwear down and bra up but would only allow simple touching.

Basically got 2 HJ, one in the tub and one on the massage table.

Paper shorts were a joke and she didn't seem to worry about them.

Massage was brutal.

Tipped 200 and she was happy.

Keep up the good reporting.

Hope to be back soon for followup visits.

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai; 1172143]Taxi driver scammed me somehow, pressing a button that essentially doubled the rate on the way there.

Originally Posted by WillyWonker

This is a real scam. When I was first here, it got me a couple of times. Lesson learned: don't talk on the phone, or text, while you are in the cab; watch the meter. They have a clicker that sends extra pulses to the meter to advance the distance. If they see you are paying attention, they don't do it. If someone cheats you, call the Shanghai call center. They can help you. The number is in most cabs on the back of the driver seat, a six digit number beginning with 962 and ending with 288. They have people that speak most languages. Be sure you get a complete receipt off the meter; don't let the cab driver deface it or tear off the cab number. Penalties for drivers doing this scam are severe.[/QUOTE]Great rule but good for all. In all the cabs we ever get in, especially with girl or after drinking, make a big deal of taking a phone pic of the taxi guys I'd. Works in every country and the simple message I'd " Buddy I got your I'd so no need to play tricks, I'm not a newbie.

[QUOTE=ShangHangin;1171973]Was at Manhattan last night looking for some different fun before I head out of China on an extended biz trip. Chatted with some viet gals around 12:30. Their pricing was off the chart. 1000 for an hour. 2500 for the night. Was interested, but not that interested. Do not accept these kind of prices. We need to work together to keep mongering affordable. I bailed out and hooked up with one of my regular take-out Chinese massage gals. Total damage: 400 for a 3 hour FS sauna style GFE. Had hoped to have viet, but not at that level of pricing.[/QUOTE]Viet Thai Filipina. Pussy is a pussy. Hold your ground. God bless them for trying but pay what YOU want not what THEY want.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1172154]Great rule but good for all. In all the cabs we ever get in, especially with girl or after drinking, make a big deal of taking a phone pic of the taxi guys I'd. Works in every country and the simple message I'd " Buddy I got your I'd so no need to play tricks, I'm not a newbie.[/QUOTE]Good advice Lost and Freebie. I've seen this scam in Harbin (aka "the most corrupt city in China"). The taxi drivers have a button or something that increases the price on the meter. It's annoying that taxi drivers and vendors think that just because some laowais can't speak Chinese that we're stupid. But to show you how stupid and greedy taxi drivers are, they don't just try to rip us off with this scam by 3 or 5 kuai, they try for 20 or 30. That's so obvious. In general, a taxi ride within a city to a reasonable destination should only be about 30 kuai at the most. Again, if you think you've been cheated, get a printed receipt and if possible a picture of the driver's I'd that's posted in the cab.

[QUOTE=Nobody Special; 1172152]Hey ShangHangin,

I did a search for Weifenglu and PudongNan but didn't find any posts.[/QUOTE]Shmitty had good luck at a place across from the Max on Weifenglu and down from the video store. The place on the same side of the street as the Max, I have had a FS before, but some time back. Down a little further on the other side of PudongNanLu is Tequila, and a couple others. I have had good luck at Tequila, but again back a while. Girls I knew are no longer there. If anyone has time, update on these appreciated.

I had not been back to Shanghai for a few years. 46 white guy, speak basic Chinese. First stop was Bodi at 4 pm last Tues. About 40 girls available. I was very impressed with the cleanliness of the place, the quality / ages of the girls. More importantly #623. If you like Spinners you will love her. She gave 150% effort to make me a happy camper for as long as I liked. I call it the P-combo. Lovely girl, great massage, excellent sex A-Z.

Stopped by Dream at JinJiang Hotel Yanggao Lu on Friday 1 am. Most girls were engaged but one was provided who was a 7. The place is somewhat run down with dirty carpets and linens. The girl. 18, gave 50% effort and rushed the massage but was really into as much boning as I could provide. The same standard services were offered at both places.

Its not a fair comparison because of the time difference. But I would say that unless you are really on a budget, that the Bodi is by far the better choice at 850 vs 750 for Dream.

In my experience there seemed to be a sauna or massage within walking distance of any spot I found myself in Shanghai. While some of these may be legit spa types, a lot were not.

BTW. I noticed that the google maps etc sometimes combine the pinyin street names into one word as I did above, and sometimes they separate the words. So if you are searching for a street, try both ways if you don't find it first try.

Just on an overall basis. I am not a handsome guy. But I have found if I have a few days in one location, that getting laid by non-pro girls in China is easier than just about anywhere. Just make sure you pick up a local telephone. You don't even need to provide I'd anymore to buy a SIM at the small shops. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=ShangHangin;1171973]Was at Manhattan last night looking for some different fun before I head out of China on an extended biz trip. Chatted with some viet gals around 12:30. Their pricing was off the chart. 1000 for an hour. 2500 for the night. Was interested, but not that interested. Do not accept these kind of prices. We need to work together to keep mongering affordable. I bailed out and hooked up with one of my regular take-out Chinese massage gals. Total damage: 400 for a 3 hour FS sauna style GFE. Had hoped to have viet, but not at that level of pricing.[/QUOTE]Strange, the viets where always the cheapest there. They never asked me more then 1000.

[QUOTE=Nobody Special; 1172152]Hey ShangHangin,

I did a search for Weifenglu and PudongNan but didn't find any posts?[/QUOTE]Not surprising. The street is called Weifang.

It was really frustrated. Went to bodi tonight but couldn't get in because I couldn't give them a membership and password. They told me that as long as any of my friend visited bodi then I can get it. What a shit. Does anybody has it and share with me&65311;

BTW, package price increase by 10% to 880RMB from 1 July.

Anybody has the membership no. And password for bodi?

They didn't let me in tonight because I could and't provide it.

Thank you!

BTW, package increase to RMB 880 since 1 July.

I visited Body after July 1, 2011. It is true, the price increased to a steep 880 Rmb. However, I got a lineup of at least 15 girls, and a number of them were quite ok. I chose a cutie from Chongqing. She did an outstanding service, and I might even repeat once. Which is usually not my style. So far, I was never disappointed by Bodi's service, but I haven't got too much experience yet. The price is clearly higher than some other places. But I prefer a very good service with a premium price, rather than a mediocre service at an average price. However, tastes are different.

BTW: I did not need any password or membership confirmation to access. Perhaps it helped that I speak some Chinese.

Any Senior Members (with a reasonable amount of posts that also contain information) may PM me for the girl's number.

Wonderer

[QUOTE=Monomi;855230]I did discover at the corner of Dingxi Lu and Wuyi Lu a temple of flesh called Dream in Shanghai. It's completely unclear to me what kind of place this is (doesn't say sauna and doesn't say KTV) other than it is quite large and has stacks of good-looking girls inside, model types. Find this intersection and you'll find Dream in Shanghai. Unfortunately, it was late and I didn't have enough dough on me to make a go of it. The place is impressive and a little intimidating. Anyway, if someone is up for a new challenge and has some coin, this is a good mark.[/QUOTE]I have been wondering about this Dream in Shanghai place for a while as I pass it regularly. Has anyone tried this place out?

On recent visit to HaiLiang, found a great performer.

If you like the slender body-big tits type. She's the one. #862. Good attitude but doesn't kiss and acts like her boobs are over sensitive. Great BBBJ skills. Will ask for her again.

Face. 7.

Body. 9

Skills- 9.

Attitude. 7.

Another off the radar place on JiangNing Lu at Kanding Lu. There is a Tesco on that corner. Right next to it on KanDing Lu in the same building, there is a little drivethrough to the building parking. If you walk in, go into the first door on the left. Take elevator to third floor. Usual deal. Locker-shower-pjs-waiting room. They only show one girl at a time (no fishbowl ). And the place is a little worn. But its only 580. The girl I got was OK (about a 6-7) , had a good attitude, but I saw a real looker on the way out. So I will probably ask to see more if I go back.

[QUOTE=ShLax;1172607]I have been wondering about this Dream in Shanghai place for a while as I pass it regularly. Has anyone tried this place out?[/QUOTE]Wonder about that place also. Looking for a story from someone who has been. If I get to that part of town, will try.

Hi,

I've been in Shanghai for a while now and had some fun occasionally at a few sauna's.

Next time I'm going I'm thinking of going for two girls, but before I do I'd like your opinions.

Does anyone here has been serviced by two girls at once at a sauna?

Is it worth the trouble (and the money)? What's the best place (sauna) to go for two girls?

Can someone share some experience? (note that I didn't do a search here).

Depending on your feedback I'll go for it. Or not. If I do, I'll report back here.

Thanks

Oh yeah.

A couple times over the last few months I have been to Xing He on XianXia Lu. They are open and soapy service is 780. Recently, a very decent selection in the fishbowl. Always at least one 8 and number of sevens. Overall, good facility and good girls. I have had a couple there that had great looks and mediorce attitude. One that stood out was #51, though have not seen her recently. Great GFE, BJ skill, and kissing. Will try just about anything. The only minus for her for some would be her A size rack. Nice, cute face though.

Any chance you heard in error? In nearly 3 years of fucking in Shanghai I have never heard of it. They didn't like the way you looked at them or some other shit. I would need confirmation of at least three regulars that membership or passwords were required in any Shanghai venues. They won't serve strangers in some locations. Period. But we couldn't get into these places to start with. It's a crock.

[QUOTE=Samgxs; 1172501]It was really frustrated. Went to bodi tonight but couldn't get in because I couldn't give them a membership and password. They told me that as long as any of my friend visited bodi then I can get it. What a shit. Does anybody has it and share with me&65311;

BTW, package price increase by 10% to 880RMB from 1 July.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChrisToffel; 1172105]Sorry, but this Story is absolutely real. I am a student from Germany and I have no interest to defame the Lady Gaga Bar! This is only the short Version of the story. I posted it because I want you to be aware of this.

Since these day I avoid to drink Corona beer, especially with a bitter lemon inside. This lemon should hide the different taste from the knockout drops. By the way, it was my first beer at that evening and I never took any other drugs![/QUOTE]A friend of mine had the same thing happen recently at Shanghai Nights (hua shan lu / julu lu area), and they stole his credit card and tried to ring him up for three separate charges of around USD 4000 over the following couple days, then when he went back to get his card they denied they had it. We talked with some girls from other bars and they said that stuff is more of the norm than the exception in those bars across the street from the Hilton Hotel, and the Blue Sky bar on tong ren lu / nan yang lu (same owner), and several of those other "talking" (girlie) bars near Manhattan.

Shanghai's bar scene used to be so much fun, but it's gotten just way too dangerous. The girls were always greedy, but now they are resorting to drugging people, drug dealers working out of those bars, police scams, and even heard a couple stories recently of foreigners being beaten up. It's just not worth it anymore. Stick with Bar Rouge, Zapatas, Judy's, and Manhattan.

[QUOTE=Bonzo1;1172708]It's just not worth it anymore. Stick with Bar Rouge, Zapatas, Judy's, and Manhattan.[/QUOTE]. And stick to well known saunas too.

There is always the risk of some LE raids, but I am of the opinion not much will happen to the punters (any is more than welcome to elaborate on this)

Matter of the fact is that one cannot report much of those bar scams to the police as from a victim he will turn quickly into a guilty boy.

[QUOTE=Nobody Special;1171839]Only spoke a few words of english but before leaving put her number in my cell phone.[/QUOTE]Which is the usual way to obtain your number. A quick buzz to her own number!

Fz

Start groping them as soon as they are in front of at the beginning of the masage. Tease them a little to loosen them up to you. 100 tip will get you free roam.

[QUOTE=Eastbound; 1172063]I'm relatively new to Shanghai and started to read reports on this web site. I'm a newbie and did not want to try out and of the the FS places, instead opting for just a massage with a HE. There are several positive reviews of Jinlin Yangsheng so I headed down there at about noon today. It was easy to find based on the pictures they have on Google. I walked in and a man behind the desk pointed to a menu. There were several massages for 338 RMB and he suggested one that had to do with sexual health or something. I believe that this is the one that the others on this site have commented on.

I was led down a set of stairs and place in a private room. The room had a bed and a corner shower. I sat there for a moment and a relatively young nice looking girl entered the room. Unfortunately, she did not speak a word of English and I no very little Mandarin. And none of my Mandarin words deal with sex at this point! She pointed to the shower and proceeded to take off my clothes and get in. I was a little nervous, having not done this before, and the warm water helped calm me down a little.

I got out of the shower and the time was about 12:15. I dried off and she asked me to lay on my stomach. She started to massage my back and did this for maybe half an hour. Not much ass play, just an occasional touch but no penetration. Unlike what I think others have said, she did not get up on the table and put my legs over her legs when I was on my stomach.

She then had me turn over and proceeded to massage my chest and stomach. I started to get pretty aroused when she massaged my lower stomach and then she moved to my legs. Not quite so erotic! Eventually, she did get on the table and put my legs over her legs and proceeded to give me a HJ with some ass play. Again, no penetration just some light touching. I would have preferred more. She then got off the table and standing to the side continued to give me a hand job.

She then stopped and started speaking to me in Mandarin. She may have asked me several questions, but I know she was asking me if I wanted to touch her breasts based on her movement. I could not tell if she was telling me I could but it would be more money or if she was just asking me if I wanted to touch her. Just prior to that my hand was on her inner thigh and it was hard to tell if she was okay with this or not. For all I know one of her comments could have been to keep my hands off that region. Who knows. Anyway, since we could not communicate she continued on with the HJ until I finally came.

I would say that it was very relaxing and the HJ was very well done. I would have preferred more ass play and a little slower pace. She finished in one hour and it was suppose to be a 100 minute massage, but I guess I control some of that timing.

I'll go back at some point and give it another try.[/QUOTE]

Ok, so first time to Sacrosa. Did a search to figure out where the place was. Maybe I just didn't notice, but has anyone mentioned that it's on the 5th floor? Without this key piece of information, you're kind of stuck right? The building is easy enough to find. Basically, head to ba bai ban (Yaohan department store). There's a cluster of shopping malls / dept stores there and in there's a big circle in the middle of them all. Then look for a building marked 1085. It will then be intuitively obvious which entrance to go through. But without the floor number. Anyway, asked the guard. But if you don't speak Chinese, sort of a problem. Also, recall some older reports saying to look for a Steak King. There is no Steak King (anymore). There's a Yonghe King (or something of that sort) and a UCC coffee on either side of the building.

So lineup is pretty much similar to Heting or 999 (where have all the super-hotties gone?). Picked #281. She was the least plump one in the lineup. Had sort of a Shu Qi look to her which was a plus as well. There's a recent post about flirting with the massage girl immediately. Good strategy. Loosen's her up. Of course, at Sacrosa, you're going to get full service. But really doesn't hurt to try and entertain the girl. She started with the cat bath but wasn't really into it so just turned her around and quickly did my thing. Chatted for a bit and then she starts trying to get the little Johnson up again. BBBJ but tough for me to finish that way unless the skill level is off the charts. So eventually popped on another cover and went for the second round.

What I'm wondering is if this is standard? Two pops in a single sauna session is somewhat rare for me. And it's not like I was pushing her to get a second pop. But figured that the flirting bit up front helped. Was a little worried that the price would be doubled or something like that, but when I left, they charged me 676 which seemed about right.

As an aside. Buddy of mine was telling me about the hyper inflation in Shanghai. KTV prices. 600 for the sitting fee and 2500 for the overnight fee. WTF? It's been a really long time since I went to KTV in Shanghai, but those numbers seem absolutely absurd. There are cheaper of course, but sounds like cheaper is 400 for the sitting fee and maybe 2000 for the overnight fee. I guess that's where all the sauna-super-hotties went. Basically the sitting fee is only slightly less than the Sacrosa all-in fee. Hmmm. If you were a sauna girl and heard those other numbers. Where would you look for your next job?

Seconds are possible the first time with a girl if you and her develop some chemistry. Always and never should be used sparingly in saunas in Shanghai in my view. Once chemistry is developed and phone numbers exchanged the scene changes. Seconds can become habitual.

One of the issues some of the girls have outside of saunas is security. Even after seeing a girl several times in the sauna some of them do not feel secure in a hotel or in another setting. Hey, I don't understand it but then I'm not a Chinese sauna girl either.

There are some gems in the saunas. Treat them well!

[QUOTE=DaoYu; 1172645]Hi,

Next time I'm going I'm thinking of going for two girls, but before I do I'd like your opinions.

Depending on your feedback I'll go for it. Or not. If I do, I'll report back here.

Thanks[/QUOTE]First, it`s not too expensive if you try your double flight in a sauna. If they are not too busy, they will even force you to take a second girl, price should not be more than RMB 300 to RMB 450 for the second one. But if you expect to get also a "lesbian-experience", you have a very less chance to get. Most of the girls will do the normal service and nearly ignore each other. If you like to spend more, better take two friends from Manhattan home, than your chance rise up to get much more (but also price will rise up).

If you never tried a double flight, you should do it, but don`t expect too much in a sauna.

Tip: better you ask the first girl to select the second one. If they are friends or like each other, sometimes you can be lucky and get better service.

Was in Shanghai on a 3 days business trip and stayed in Pudong area.

Day 1: Had called one of the numbers advertised in echina site for Outcall massage. A girl picked the call and quoted 400 RMB for 90 mins which I agreed. I gave hotel's telephone number and my room number and within next 20 mins, a Chinese girl arrived. My experience was similar to some of them mentioned in this forum. The girl was pushing me to finish the act and be done with. I got a normal CBJ followed by a FS in 60 mins and she refused to stay longer saying she was informed only of 60 mins and not 90 mins by her agent. I was tired after the flight so did not argue with her.

Gal:

Looks. 6/10.

Height. 5.1.

Boobs- 34 B.

Skills- 5.

Attitude- 6.

Day 2: Went in search of Dream Spa in the afternoon, I had read that the entrance to the SPA is on the side of the Jin Jiang hotel but I ended up on left side instead of right side. A hotel staff guided me to 3rd floor which happened to be Jin Jiang's inhouse SPA. I asked for 750 RMB package and the girl in the reception told me no such package and guided me to Dream SPA on the right side of the hotel in ground floor. After locking the things in the locker and bath, was guided to waiting room in the basement. Within 5 mins, I was shown a parade of 15 girls, all wishing Nihao to me. I liked 2-3 and chose #865 among them as she was tall with good boobs. She took me by hand to the decent size room with a massage table and some weird looking chair. Next 2 hours was pure bliss with Cat Bath. 1 CBJ. 2 FS shots and some massage. I was a happy man that day. I was offered some Green Tea and Watermelon to recuperate in the waiting room and spent 10 mins there watching some news, left the place after collecting things from locker and paying 750 RMB.

Gal:

Looks. 8/10.

Height. 5.6.

Boobs. 34C.

Skills. 6.

Attitude. 7.

Room Ambiance. 6.

Day 3: Returned to Dream SPA again but this time it was 9 PM. After initial bath, was guided this time to first floor which had better rooms than basement. This time I was shown no parade as many girls were busy. Mamasen showed me a tall girl but I refused as I did not like her, then she came with another girl with cute face and said she is good with oral skills. I accepted her and we moved into the slightly bigger room than basement with proper bed and TV / DVD. The girl was very cheerful and friendly and was ready for anything. Got a good BBBJ followed by FS. She also gave me Prostrate massage. Most amazing thing about this gal was her oral skill, even the way she sucked my fingers was very erotic. Unfortunately I forgot her number, it was 88X.

Looks. 7/10.

Height. 5.3.

Boobs. 32A.

Skills. 8.

Attitude. 8.

Room Ambiance. 7

[QUOTE=DaoYu; 1172645]Next time I'm going I'm thinking of going for two girls, but before I do I'd like your opinions.

Does anyone here has been serviced by two girls at once at a sauna?

Thanks[/QUOTE]It's something that must be done at sone stage and has pro's and cons just like the profession.

Quickly,

Pros:

- more hands and tongues for added sensuality.

- you've got two girls to touch while banging away.

- 2 varieties: you could choose a girl with big boobs with a girl who is pretty and has nice legs.

- if they are friends and have done double before they should provide a good service.

- if you can arrange, you can have 1 pop in each. If you control the situation you can concentrate on one then the next rather than both control you.

Cons:

- you end up distracted in where to focus your attention and don't build a connection with either girl, especially as girls will naturally compete with each other too, or 1 girl will lead and the other follow. My advice is you are the customer, do what you want to do with each of them.

- service may be rushed or lacking due to girls fiddling around.

- if you don't speak Chinese well, girls will usually chat to each other rather than providing intimacy with you.

- you have to swap condoms every tine you want to swap them

- if they are not friends they both might provide worse service than separately

It sort of feels more like a novelty factor unless you get two girls that work well together. Then you feel like a king. Try a place like 999 that often gives you a free second girl during washdown and see if you like it, or ask the mamasan / manager which girls are friends and would be suitable for a double. There's no place that will stand out for doubles, it depends entirely on the girls and how you direct the show.

[QUOTE=Neuromancer; 1172847]Ok, so first time to Sacrosa. Did a search to figure out where the place was. Maybe I just didn't notice, but has anyone mentioned that it's on the 5th floor? Without this key piece of information, you're kind of stuck right? The building is easy enough to find. Basically, head to ba bai ban (Yaohan department store). There's a cluster of shopping malls / dept stores there and in there's a big circle in the middle of them all. Then look for a building marked 1085. It will then be intuitively obvious which entrance to go through. But without the floor number. Anyway, asked the guard. But if you don't speak Chinese, sort of a problem. Also, recall some older reports saying to look for a Steak King. There is no Steak King (anymore). There's a Yonghe King (or something of that sort) and a UCC coffee on either side of the building.

So lineup is pretty much similar to Heting or 999 (where have all the super-hotties gone?). Picked #281. She was the least plump one in the lineup. Had sort of a Shu Qi look to her which was a plus as well. There's a recent post about flirting with the massage girl immediately. Good strategy. Loosen's her up. Of course, at Sacrosa, you're going to get full service. But really doesn't hurt to try and entertain the girl. She started with the cat bath but wasn't really into it so just turned her around and quickly did my thing. Chatted for a bit and then she starts trying to get the little Johnson up again. BBBJ but tough for me to finish that way unless the skill level is off the charts. So eventually popped on another cover and went for the second round.

What I'm wondering is if this is standard? Two pops in a single sauna session is somewhat rare for me. And it's not like I was pushing her to get a second pop. But figured that the flirting bit up front helped. Was a little worried that the price would be doubled or something like that, but when I left, they charged me 676 which seemed about right.

As an aside. Buddy of mine was telling me about the hyper inflation in Shanghai. KTV prices. 600 for the sitting fee and 2500 for the overnight fee. WTF? It's been a really long time since I went to KTV in Shanghai, but those numbers seem absolutely absurd. There are cheaper of course, but sounds like cheaper is 400 for the sitting fee and maybe 2000 for the overnight fee. I guess that's where all the sauna-super-hotties went. Basically the sitting fee is only slightly less than the Sacrosa all-in fee. Hmmm. If you were a sauna girl and heard those other numbers. Where would you look for your next job?[/QUOTE]Yes Sacrosa. You have to know which girls to take. Anybody any tip? I can tell that by far the two best girls I had there have been #311 and #267. First one is great and very beautiful, second one good looking, fake boobs, amazing BJ. Now give me a tip for my next visi.

T there.

Dropped by Manhattan for the first time in a lot of months last night, and got a few surprises! Chatted up an elegantly dressed Fils gal that had a set of incisors that belonged on "True Blood" and was interesting. Ask her to sit outside for a minute and chatted about price, she wanted 1500+taxi for ST, I politely declined and she said she didn't want me to be angry. I told her I wasn't angry, just wasn't going to pay that price. We went back inside, and within 2 minutes she had found another guy, and 30 mins later was gone! So much for holding the line on inflation! LOL.

Saw a Viet gal that I met on her first night 2 years ago in HK, and she was REALLY surprised to see me in Shanghai, I was surprised to see her also. It was her first night ever in Shanghai, I suspect that she was on a visa run! She asked if I would take her home, and since I had enjoyed her company before, I quickly agreed, asked the price and she said same as HK, I said great! That means 800 rmb, she said no 1000, I said okay, I give you 1000 HKD, she laughed and said okay! I needed to go to the bathroom and when I came out, another punter was chatting her up and putting on the full court press. I, didn't want to cause a scene, so made eye contact with her and went to wait at the bar for her to extricate herself and come over. She smiled at me a few times when this guy couldn't see, so I waited. I got distracted for about 10 mins by the belly dancer on the bar and when I turned around she was gone, I'm like WTF?

Chatted up the friend of the first Fils gal and asked her price, and got 2500 rmb, including a massage! I passed this off as her not wanting to go with me. Since I had asked her friend first. Really 2500 rmb for a Fils.

Walked over to Judy's and talked to a gal at the bar, she was a Viet, but dressed in jeans and a blouse instead of the normal Viet uniform of a tight silk dress.

I was mildly interested, but something wasn't quite right. I was talking about a few guys entangled with a couple of ladyboys, when she told me that she had surgery 7 years ago to remove her / his / it's penis. Didn't see that one coming as she had none of the traits. I told her that her doctor did a nice job, but I wasn't interested in exploring that part of my sexuality!

Wound walking out the door, followed by two really cute Viet gals that I had "met" on the way to the rest room. They were leaving, so being a gentleman I hailed them a cab. One asked me if was interested in two girls and I said no, I didn't want to spend that much money. She said. 1000 rmb and would guarantee a good time. I said I couldn't go twice in short time and wanted both girls, she "promised" they would stay as long as it took for me to enjoy both girls once. I accepted her offer.

As it turns out they were a lot of fun, we had a great time and while they didn't interact with each other they tag teamed me very well! They stayed about three hours and I was spent. We had a lot of laughs and at least one girl said she hadn't had sex in more than a week and I was her "lucky charm". LOL I gave her the best run for her money I could.

I had been ready to give up on the evening, but it turned out to be a good one in the end. Here is to staying the course!

Sky

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1170717]Agree with Shmitty, brass ring out the gate not likely. You need to build the relationship with the owner and girls. Most MPs have a VIP program. If you find one you like (and a girl you like) , drop the 1000 or so to become a VIP. It is essentially a pre-pay and a 20% discount. Usually the girl gets a cut. I have been going to the same MP for a few years, I reload the VIP card now and again. Have my few girls I like to rotate through. In house service includes an hour and 15 good quality massage followed 45 minutes of clothing optional fun, usually BBBJ / CIM and HJ, tip 200. But never FS in house, I don't even ask. Take out is a 2+ hour at home suana experience / GFE. FS, multiple pops, tip 300.

I've tried the saunas, BBS, club / bar take out, etc. I find that for consistency, a good MP relationship is a proven winner.[/QUOTE]Hangin,

I am not sure if you are comfortable giving the name of the place you purchased the VIP card, but if not, is it the same general location. I also have had good success using this method. The down side is it doesn't lend itself to good outcome for one time visitors. I recently changed hotels, so all the places I enjoyed before are too far away. The new hotel is not far from the Pudong areas mentioned recently, just trying to "narrow the field" so to speak! TIA for the help!

Sky.

Ps Tried to send PM but no luck.

Several BBS down a side street south of Jinqiao Road. Sorry it doesn't seem to have a name, but it is between Jintai Road. (several BBS on that street as well) and Yanggao Middle Road. On Google Map, there is a business named 'Jinqiao Wholesale Dept. ' written over the street.

Anyway, standard BBS action, ladies sitting at the windows in dresses. I went at lunch time. Picked one of the places on the south side of the street, name only in Chinese, so can't remember. Chose a 30's MILF, FS multiple positions, damage 100RMB, no Mandarin required.

Nice down market action for a Friday lunch.

[QUOTE=Any BBS open during day

Any BBS in Shanghai open during the day? I went to Chengjiaqiao around 3pm and nothing open. Been there many times at night and love it. But need something fast and cheap during the day sometimes. Everything at Zhaohua and Dingxi also closed. Sauna is Royalston Zhongshan Park closed. Geez, what's happening to this city? Any good BBS places further out of town?
.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DaoYu; 1172645]Hi,

I've been in Shanghai for a while now and had some fun occasionally at a few sauna's.

Next time I'm going I'm thinking of going for two girls, but before I do I'd like your opinions.

Does anyone here has been serviced by two girls at once at a sauna?

Is it worth the trouble (and the money)? What's the best place (sauna) to go for two girls?

Can someone share some experience? (note that I didn't do a search here).

Depending on your feedback I'll go for it. Or not. If I do, I'll report back here.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I have had a few in the past. The experience varies a lot. I have encounter girls who are pushing the service hard but were trying to avoid getting into contact with each other through the service. On the other end, I had done DITY on one girl with another. That was fun. The trick is to know at least one of the girls well beforehand and then ask her what she would do with the other girl and let her pick the girl.

I will be in Goungzhou for week, I won't be alone thaqt week so I won't be able to have any fun, but I will be alone in Shanghai for 1. 2 days, I will be busy in meetings most of the day but will have 2 nights free.

Is there any decent action near the airport, I can book my hotel anywhere near the airport within a few miles of the airport.

PLease help me out with any information for some fun, let it me full service massages or BBBJ, or anything else? Any clubs? Fkk's?

Thanks

I am flying from the UK the week of July 25,

Thanks

Any report from your previous Guangzhou trip in March?

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid; 1174420]I will be in Goungzhou for week. I won't be alone thaqt week so I won't be able to have any fun, but I will be alone in Shanghai for 1. 2 days, I will be busy in meetings most of the day but will have 2 nights free.

Is there any decent action near the airport, I can book my hotel anywhere near the airport within a few miles of the airport.

PLease help me out with any information for some fun, let it me full service massages or BBBJ, or anything else? Any clubs? Fkk's?[/QUOTE]

I have been several times in Bodi and have never been asked by the staff whether I am a member of the club. But last week when I entered into the lobby, one guy aksed me to show him my membership. As I pretended not to understand what he was saying to me, he said "Lao quai" and let me eventually in.

Can anyone tell me how can I get the membership? How can I apply for membership?

[QUOTE=Popp Master; 1174746]I have been several times in Bodi and have never been asked by the staff whether I am a member of the club. But last week when I entered into the lobby, one guy aksed me to show him my membership. As I pretended not to understand what he was saying to me, he said "Lao quai" and let me eventually in.

Can anyone tell me how can I get the membership? How can I apply for membership?[/QUOTE]Next time, ask for the membership card in the reception area after your session. You may want to google translate the words for "membership card". I doubt the receptionists understand English. No process and they should just give you a card free of charge

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid; 1174420]I will be in Goungzhou for week, I won't be alone thaqt week so I won't be able to have any fun, but I will be alone in Shanghai for 1. 2 days, I will be busy in meetings most of the day but will have 2 nights free.

Is there any decent action near the airport, I can book my hotel anywhere near the airport within a few miles of the airport.

PLease help me out with any information for some fun, let it me full service massages or BBBJ, or anything else? Any clubs? Fkk's?

Thanks.

I am flying from the UK the week of July 25,

Thanks[/QUOTE]Not really. You best bet is still bodhi. Take the maglev from the airport. After you get to longyang maglev station, take a taxi to bodhi. Check the forum for the address and details. Most saunas follow the same routine. Cheers

[QUOTE=Maddu; 1173206]Was in Shanghai on a 3 days business trip and stayed in Pudong area.

Day 1: Had called one of the numbers advertised in echina site for Outcall massage. A girl picked the call and quoted 400 RMB for 90 mins which I agreed. I gave hotel's telephone number and my room number and within next 20 mins, a Chinese girl arrived. My experience was similar to some of them mentioned in this forum. The girl was pushing me to finish the act and be done with. I got a normal CBJ followed by a FS in 60 mins and she refused to stay longer saying she was informed only of 60 mins and not 90 mins by her agent. I was tired after the flight so did not argue with her.

Gal:

Looks. 6/10.

Height. 5.1.

Boobs- 34 B.

Skills- 5.

Attitude- 6.

Day 2: Went in search of Dream Spa in the afternoon, I had read that the entrance to the SPA is on the side of the Jin Jiang hotel but I ended up on left side instead of right side. A hotel staff guided me to 3rd floor which happened to be Jin Jiang's inhouse SPA. I asked for 750 RMB package and the girl in the reception told me no such package and guided me to Dream SPA on the right side of the hotel in ground floor. After locking the things in the locker and bath, was guided to waiting room in the basement. Within 5 mins, I was shown a parade of 15 girls, all wishing Nihao to me. I liked 2-3 and chose #865 among them as she was tall with good boobs. She took me by hand to the decent size room with a massage table and some weird looking chair. Next 2 hours was pure bliss with Cat Bath. 1 CBJ. 2 FS shots and some massage. I was a happy man that day. I was offered some Green Tea and Watermelon to recuperate in the waiting room and spent 10 mins there watching some news, left the place after collecting things from locker and paying 750 RMB.

Gal:

Looks. 8/10.

Height. 5.6.

Boobs. 34C.

Skills. 6.

Attitude. 7.

Room Ambiance. 6.

Day 3: Returned to Dream SPA again but this time it was 9 PM. After initial bath, was guided this time to first floor which had better rooms than basement. This time I was shown no parade as many girls were busy. Mamasen showed me a tall girl but I refused as I did not like her, then she came with another girl with cute face and said she is good with oral skills. I accepted her and we moved into the slightly bigger room than basement with proper bed and TV / DVD. The girl was very cheerful and friendly and was ready for anything. Got a good BBBJ followed by FS. She also gave me Prostrate massage. Most amazing thing about this gal was her oral skill, even the way she sucked my fingers was very erotic. Unfortunately I forgot her number, it was 88X.

Looks. 7/10.

Height. 5.3.

Boobs. 32A.

Skills. 8.

Attitude. 8.

Room Ambiance. 7[/QUOTE]Hi, is the spa still charging 750 for 60 mins?

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1174544]Any report from your previous Guangzhou trip in March?[/QUOTE]Actually not really, I had no time at night to go out, I did try to get one SW into the hotel she was a 7 quiet pretty asked for $100 USD, She was at the 711 near the garden hotel. Security at the Garden told me I can't bring her up to my room. It was after 11 pm. She said she rather not look for trouble and left.

Any hotel near the Airport have any sexual services?

Any girl that can be called to my hotel room?

Also is there a chance of getting arrested in Shanghai for sex?

Someone told me that there have been busts and some of these places, Is there a chance of being arrested?

[QUOTE=Mike666;1174825]Not really. You best bet is still bodhi. Take the maglev from the airport. After you get to longyang maglev station, take a taxi to bodhi. Check the forum for the address and details. Most saunas follow the same routine. Cheers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mike666;1174824]Next time, ask for the membership card in the reception area after your session. You may want to google translate the words for "membership card". I doubt the receptionists understand English. No process and they should just give you a card free of charge[/QUOTE]Oh, that is easy. Thank you for your advice. I do speak Madarin so no problem for me at all. Will do next time.

[QUOTE=Mike666;1174829]Hi, is the spa still charging 750 for 60 mins?[/QUOTE]Mike, Both the times I stayed more than 60 Mins with the girl, but I think 60 mins is the general norm there but not very sure.

Any info on action in Jiangsu?

Also I heard that near the shanghai airport I can find some actrion while waiting for the plane any advice?

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid; 1174871]Any hotel near the Airport have any sexual services?

Any girl that can be called to my hotel room?

Also is there a chance of getting arrested in Shanghai for sex?

Someone told me that there have been busts and some of these places, Is there a chance of being arrested?[/QUOTE]It seems that not only you have not read much the forum, but don't take into account answers to' your questions.

You Are honestly not worth more comments.

[QUOTE=Popp Master;1174880]Oh, that is easy. Thank you for your advice. I do speak Madarin so no problem for me at all. Will do next time.[/QUOTE]Normally the term "VIP Card" is recognised!

I did read as much as I can I was reading this forum for 3 hours yesterday,

I did get that Ramada might have something. I also noted that there is some places near the hotel, but I am not sure where, So I hoped that maybe someone here can direct me better.

About being arrested, I came across an article on a site that said there was a crackdown in China on sex trade so I was asking how concerned I should be.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1175017]It seems that not only you have not read much the forum, but don't take into account answers to' your questions.

You Are honestly not worth more comments.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Popp Master; 1174746]I have been several times in Bodi and have never been asked by the staff whether I am a member of the club. But last week when I entered into the lobby, one guy aksed me to show him my membership. As I pretended not to understand what he was saying to me, he said "Lao quai" and let me eventually in.

Can anyone tell me how can I get the membership? How can I apply for membership?[/QUOTE]You do not need to apply. If you have been there enough times, they will give you for free. How many times, I do not know. I think they will give you if they think you are safe and will return. I go mine on my third visit.

JB

Just curious how do they deal with first time comers, after all there needs to be a first to be able to be a repeat customer,

Besides how do they remember you after 1 or 2 times to give you the free card?

I was in Hungzouh 3 months ago for 2 nights, at about 11:30 Pm I went out to smoke a cigarette, I was smoking and just looking around. I saw some females, but they rather looked like business ladies then hookers. I did not pay much attention and finished smoking and went back to my room.

When I got to the elevator, one of the females suddenly also got into the elevator, she did not press any floor. When I got to my floor she got off too, she did not follow me she went the other direction. I went into my room threw off my shoes. Suddenly there is a knock on my door, so I go to the door to see who it was. There she was standing at the door, claiming that she lost her card, and she called the desk and asked if she can come into my room till they come up.

I did not think she meant anything besides being honest there was no hint of anything sexual. So

I said I guess it's ok for a while. She started some small talk etc. Then asked me if I am married, and asked me if I ever looked for sex in China. I got embarrassed I did not want to answer. She said its ok we all need it sometime. She did however aask a few times if I am rich and if I like to spend money or females.

Before I knew it she was teasing with her body and eyes, had her high heel shoes dangling on her foot after she crossed her legs to expose her upper thighs under her skirt.

I was niave or what, I was shocked. I told her I try not do do crazy things away from home etc, then I tell her maybe you call to the dest again to ask when they are coming up.

SO she says am I in your way? I replied well I have to shower and go to bed I have to work tomorrow. She then answers she has to do the same maybe I would like some company.

End of story, silly me I did not take her up on the offer, I was afrraid of the other females I saw her with downstairs I was afraid its some trap, Well I will never know what I missed.

[QUOTE=Jude Bright; 1175093]You do not need to apply. If you have been there enough times, they will give you for free. How many times, I do not know. I think they will give you if they think you are safe and will return. I go mine on my third visit.

JB[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid; 1175101]Just curious how do they deal with first time comers, after all there needs to be a first to be able to be a repeat customer,

Besides how do they remember you after 1 or 2 times to give you the free card?

I was in Hungzouh 3 months ago for 2 nights, at about 11:30 Pm I went out to smoke a cigarette, I was smoking and just looking around. I saw some females, but they rather looked like business ladies then hookers. I did not pay much attention and finished smoking and went back to my room.

When I got to the elevator, one of the females suddenly also got into the elevator, she did not press any floor. When I got to my floor she got off too, she did not follow me she went the other direction. I went into my room threw off my shoes. Suddenly there is a knock on my door, so I go to the door to see who it was. There she was standing at the door, claiming that she lost her card, and she called the desk and asked if she can come into my room till they come up.

I did not think she meant anything besides being honest there was no hint of anything sexual. So

I said I guess it's ok for a while. She started some small talk etc. Then asked me if I am married, and asked me if I ever looked for sex in China. I got embarrassed I did not want to answer. She said its ok we all need it sometime. She did however aask a few times if I am rich and if I like to spend money or females.

Before I knew it she was teasing with her body and eyes, had her high heel shoes dangling on her foot after she crossed her legs to expose her upper thighs under her skirt.

I was niave or what, I was shocked. I told her I try not do do crazy things away from home etc, then I tell her maybe you call to the dest again to ask when they are coming up.

SO she says am I in your way? I replied well I have to shower and go to bed I have to work tomorrow. She then answers she has to do the same maybe I would like some company.

End of story, silly me I did not take her up on the offer, I was afrraid of the other females I saw her with downstairs I was afraid its some trap, Well I will never know what I missed.[/QUOTE]Sounds weird to me, I would have done the same thing. Who knows what she would have asked for?

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid; 1175101]Just curious how do they deal with first time comers, after all there needs to be a first to be able to be a repeat customer,

Besides how do they remember you after 1 or 2 times to give you the free card?

I was in Hungzouh 3 months ago for 2 nights, at about 11:30 Pm I went out to smoke a cigarette, I was smoking and just looking around. I saw some females, but they rather looked like business ladies then hookers. I did not pay much attention and finished smoking and went back to my room.

When I got to the elevator, one of the females suddenly also got into the elevator, she did not press any floor. When I got to my floor she got off too, she did not follow me she went the other direction. I went into my room threw off my shoes. Suddenly there is a knock on my door, so I go to the door to see who it was. There she was standing at the door, claiming that she lost her card, and she called the desk and asked if she can come into my room till they come up.

I did not think she meant anything besides being honest there was no hint of anything sexual. So

I said I guess it's ok for a while. She started some small talk etc. Then asked me if I am married, and asked me if I ever looked for sex in China. I got embarrassed I did not want to answer. She said its ok we all need it sometime. She did however aask a few times if I am rich and if I like to spend money or females.

Before I knew it she was teasing with her body and eyes, had her high heel shoes dangling on her foot after she crossed her legs to expose her upper thighs under her skirt.

I was niave or what, I was shocked. I told her I try not do do crazy things away from home etc, then I tell her maybe you call to the dest again to ask when they are coming up.

SO she says am I in your way? I replied well I have to shower and go to bed I have to work tomorrow. She then answers she has to do the same maybe I would like some company.

End of story, silly me I did not take her up on the offer, I was afrraid of the other females I saw her with downstairs I was afraid its some trap, Well I will never know what I missed.[/QUOTE]If I may, can I ask which hotel in Hangzhou this took place at? I spend a lot of time in Hangzhou.

NL

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid; 1175101]Just curious how do they deal with first time comers, after all there needs to be a first to be able to be a repeat customer,

I guess you just has to be luck when there is time that no one will ask for the card or if you go with someone who has the card.

JB

[QUOTE=Nonlinear; 1175151]If I may, can I ask which hotel in Hangzhou this took place at? I spend a lot of time in Hangzhou.

NL[/QUOTE]If I am not mistaking it was the Dragon Hotel.

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid; 1175101]I was niave or what, I was shocked. I told her I try not do do crazy things away from home etc, then I tell her maybe you call to the dest again to ask when they are coming up.

SO she says am I in your way? I replied well I have to shower and go to bed I have to work tomorrow. She then answers she has to do the same maybe I would like some company.

End of story, silly me I did not take her up on the offer, I was afrraid of the other females I saw her with downstairs I was afraid its some trap, Well I will never know what I missed.[/QUOTE]Funny, something almost similar happened to me in Shenzhen. Same thing with the elevator. Only that when we exited it, she directly asked if I wanted a massage. After some extra negotiation in my room it became full service. Sorry to say but in my case I had an excellent time.

Was in a taxi on Dingxi Lu, north of Yanan Lu and saw this big place called Dream in Shanghai. I'm not sure what it is, but it looked like a huge sauna, tons of cars parked out front. Wanted to see if anyone was familiar with this place.

[QUOTE=Bbqman;1175218]Funny, something almost similar happened to me in Shenzhen. Same thing with the elevator. Only that when we exited it, she directly asked if I wanted a massage. After some extra negotiation in my room it became full service. Sorry to say but in my case I had an excellent time.[/QUOTE]I was approached in front of the elevator at my Pudong hotel from a girl who was sitting in the couches nearby. She left me a piece of paper in the hand with her name, cell number and "300rmb massage 1 hr". I did not take the option.

[QUOTE=Bbqman;1175218]Funny, something almost similar happened to me in Shenzhen. Same thing with the elevator. Only that when we exited it, she directly asked if I wanted a massage. After some extra negotiation in my room it became full service. Sorry to say but in my case I had an excellent time.[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me in Shanghai. Walked out of the elevator on my way to my room. A pretty girl was loitering by the elevator bank. I smiled (of course) and she smiled back. Do I want a massage? I was supposed to meet friends in the bar, so I had to make it a quick session. Worked out great for me.

At the Shanghai Hilton. After we reached my room, she called another girl, and it was a pretty hot three some for a couple hours thereafter. From the responses so far, it seems these situations work out well more often than not ;)

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid;1175101]End of story, silly me I did not take her up on the offer, I was afrraid of the other females I saw her with downstairs I was afraid its some trap, Well I will never know what I missed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1174197]Several BBS down a side street south of Jinqiao Road. Sorry it doesn't seem to have a name, but it is between Jintai Road. (several BBS on that street as well) and Yanggao Middle Road. On Google Map, there is a business named 'Jinqiao Wholesale Dept. ' written over the street.

Anyway, standard BBS action, ladies sitting at the windows in dresses. I went at lunch time. Picked one of the places on the south side of the street, name only in Chinese, so can't remember. Chose a 30's MILF, FS multiple positions, damage 100RMB, no Mandarin required.

Nice down market action for a Friday lunch.[/QUOTE]Thanks dude,

I been there already. Two small streets on the right under the bridge.

Well. 5 BBS with 3-5 women. Level from 3 to 5. 5.

300 FS. 100 BBBJ. BTW the cheapest offert in town I think.

After the expo all is changed.

[QUOTE=ShLax;1172607]I have been wondering about this Dream in Shanghai place for a while as I pass it regularly. Has anyone tried this place out?[/QUOTE]I just asked the same question yesterday and just found the 2 posts about it today. It definitely looks pretty grand, more like an actual sauna like xiao nan guo on Hon Mei Road.

Also wanted to go to Heting tonight but they were closed for the day for reconstruction. 2 guys out front said that I could come back tomorrow. Seemed odd as there were a few cars parked out front so I was guessing that some under cover officials or sorts were using the place for the day.

[QUOTE=Jon246;1175353]Was in a taxi on Dingxi Lu, north of Yanan Lu and saw this big place called Dream in Shanghai. I'm not sure what it is, but it looked like a huge sauna, tons of cars parked out front. Wanted to see if anyone was familiar with this place.[/QUOTE]As far as I know, it's just a regular KTV. I've been inside and haven't seen anything other than KTV rooms.

I have been checking out the Shanghai apartment girls sites like.

[url=http://lang520.com/?fromuid=10113]Lang520[/url]

The apartment girls typically charge between 300 400 for ST and 800 1000 for overnight. The profiles and reports there look interesting but there are many fake ones. It takes time to find a few good ones from all these. One needs QQ and some Chinese skill to get to these girls. I had a few bad experiences and a good one.

Let's start with the bad ones. I found a few near my place and got in contact with them. The pictures look good online and of course, these turn out to be bait and switch. I just walked out of there.

Now, the good one. There is gem among these apartment girl. Found a girl named Candice whom are highly recommended. Chat with her on QQ and not the typical robotic response. Pretty chatty one. Decided to give her a try. Got to near by her apartment and call her up for the exact location. She opened the door in lingerie and petite but cute and curvy. She asked me in. The room is a small studio apartment. Sit on the sofa with her for a while and chat a bit. I saw her notebook on the table with QQ running. Then she asked me to go take shower with her. She started to giving me head in the shower for a while. Then we dried ourselves and get to the bed room. Have a lot of play before the main course. No rush and great attitude.

The apartment girls are interesting alternative to SW, SN and BBS to explore.

Does anyone know a safe sane easy to get to massage parlor near the Renaissance Yantze at 2099 Yan An Xi Road?

My SO has enjoyed a few highly erotic massage sessions with Men and Ladies at places around the world. I have only been to Shanghai once, and only received a standard rub that visit, so I do not have anywhere to send her.

I appreciate all of your suggestions.

Thank you,

J.

[QUOTE=White Dragon;1173524]It's something that must be done at sone stage and has pro's and cons just like the profession.[/QUOTE]Thank you to White Dragon and Shanghai Guide for the tips. Here is the promised report.

Went to 999 yesterday, I walked in around 3pm.

Asked for prices, was told 800 for 1 girl. 1300 for 2. Must be inflation as I remember the prices being lower, anyway, went in, showered, changed to the standard outfit and went up. Noticed that on the way to the fishbowl I met a numbered girl every couple of meters. Don't know if this was coincidence of something new as I haven't been at 999 since before the Expo. They were better dressed but had a number nonetheless, all were friendly and greeted me. Didn't ask if they could be picked as well.

The bowl contained a lineup of some 20 girls, from 6-9. Papasan asked if I wanted 1 girl or 2 girls, I told him 2. I asked if any spoke English, he said no. Spent some time going over the wares and then chose 855 because she was looking really naughty. I told papasan to ask her to pick another girl herself. She wasted no time and immediately asked 819 to come out. They turned out to be friends. They guided me to a room and undress themselves and me. Off to the shower room. In there I found they are not only friends, they are a team!

855 * Age: 22 * Origin: Jilin * Face: 8 * Body: 8 * GFE: 8.

819 * Age: 20 * Origin: Harbin * Face: 9 * Body: 8 * GFE: 8.

They were all over me from the start. Unfortunately they didn't speak English and being as foreign as they come I didn't speak Chinese. Communication was thus a bit difficult so I decided to let them do their act. They performed as a team and swapped roles throughout. For example, one of them did my backside during the wet massage and the other did the front, one of them did the rimming, the other the BBBJ. They both did the cat bath simultaneously. No matter what one did, the other was always touching or licking me. They worked together very well.

The only real exception to this was the main event where they did turns. 855 started riding me. We did three positions and then, after putting on a new cover, swapped to 819. She was quite tight and nearly squeezed the juice right out of me, so I managed only 1 position with her before I popped.

We actually had a small incident during the BBBJ part. I had brought in my mobile phone. It rang suddenly and that made us all jump up. I managed to show them quite fast not to worry though, so we could continue the session.

The overall experience was very good. They worked as a team and were all over me for most of the time. They did chat among each other but they never lost track of me for long. They were both fun girls and I'm sure the experience would have been even better if we could actually talk to each other. Anyway, I think I was lucky and can fully recommend it. It was definately worth the 1300 rmb.

Nice report. It's been a while since I visited 999. Got to try it out again when I'm in Shanghai later this year. Prices seem in line with what I paid several years back (780 RMB). Really liked the lineups at Heting Elite during my last visit, but miss the soapy treatment.

Cheers,

E

[QUOTE=DaoYu; 1175893]Thank you to White Dragon and Shanghai Guide for the tips. Here is the promised report.

Went to 999 yesterday, I walked in around 3pm.

Asked for prices, was told 800 for 1 girl. 1300 for 2. Must be inflation as I remember the prices being lower, anyway, went in, showered, changed to the standard outfit and went up. Noticed that on the way to the fishbowl I met a numbered girl every couple of meters. Don't know if this was coincidence of something new as I haven't been at 999 since before the Expo. They were better dressed but had a number nonetheless, all were friendly and greeted me. Didn't ask if they could be picked as well.

The bowl contained a lineup of some 20 girls, from 6-9. Papasan asked if I wanted 1 girl or 2 girls, I told him 2. I asked if any spoke English, he said no. Spent some time going over the wares and then chose 855 because she was looking really naughty. I told papasan to ask her to pick another girl herself. She wasted no time and immediately asked 819 to come out. They turned out to be friends. They guided me to a room and undress themselves and me. Off to the shower room. In there I found they are not only friends, they are a team!

855 * Age: 22 * Origin: Jilin * Face: 8 * Body: 8 * GFE: 8.

819 * Age: 20 * Origin: Harbin * Face: 9 * Body: 8 * GFE: 8.

They were all over me from the start. Unfortunately they didn't speak English and being as foreign as they come I didn't speak Chinese. Communication was thus a bit difficult so I decided to let them do their act. They performed as a team and swapped roles throughout. For example, one of them did my backside during the wet massage and the other did the front, one of them did the rimming, the other the BBBJ. They both did the cat bath simultaneously. No matter what one did, the other was always touching or licking me. They worked together very well.

The only real exception to this was the main event where they did turns. 855 started riding me. We did three positions and then, after putting on a new cover, swapped to 819. She was quite tight and nearly squeezed the juice right out of me, so I managed only 1 position with her before I popped.

We actually had a small incident during the BBBJ part. I had brought in my mobile phone. It rang suddenly and that made us all jump up. I managed to show them quite fast not to worry though, so we could continue the session.

The overall experience was very good. They worked as a team and were all over me for most of the time. They did chat among each other but they never lost track of me for long. They were both fun girls and I'm sure the experience would have been even better if we could actually talk to each other. Anyway, I think I was lucky and can fully recommend it. It was definately worth the 1300 rmb.[/QUOTE]

No need for membership. Just tell them that you are from a place outside China and this is what it takes. They just want to screen out the local people that may be LE.

[QUOTE=Popp Master; 1174746]I have been several times in Bodi and have never been asked by the staff whether I am a member of the club. But last week when I entered into the lobby, one guy aksed me to show him my membership. As I pretended not to understand what he was saying to me, he said "Lao quai" and let me eventually in.

Can anyone tell me how can I get the membership? How can I apply for membership?[/QUOTE]

Heard today that New York, New York and Route 66 (girlie bars) across from the Hilton are closed (same owner). Does anyone know what happened and where the girls went?

[QUOTE=Jman90024; 1175870]I have been checking out the Shanghai apartment girls sites like.

[url=http://lang520.com/?fromuid=10113]Lang520[/url]

Sorry for my limited Madarin ability, tried looking through the site, even with Google translate, can you be a bit more specific where I can find apartment girls?

Nice report.

Can you provide more detail on the girls, tall or short, hair, BoBos etc?

[QUOTE=DaoYu; 1175893]855 * Age: 22 * Origin: Jilin * Face: 8 * Body: 8 * GFE: 8.

819 * Age: 20 * Origin: Harbin * Face: 9 * Body: 8 * GFE: 8.[/QUOTE]

Called my regular outcall lady Lucy that has hooked me up in the past and she delivered ChiChi within 30 minutes as usual. At first look I was disappointed because she was a little chubby for my taste. Maybe 60-65kg, but very proportionate. She made up for it in attitude though, as she had me naked, on my back and my cock buried in her throat in less than 10 minutes. Such a good job as a matter of course that I blew a load into her mouth in record time. Teased her about "we're only 20 minutes in and she owes me a second" shot when, to my surprise, she came through with that as well.
Great 500rmb+taxi money investement. Phone number for lucy to senior members upon request

[QUOTE=DaoYu; 1175893]Thank you to White Dragon and Shanghai Guide for the tips. Here is the promised report.

Went to 999 yesterday, I walked in around 3pm.

Asked for prices, was told 800 for 1 girl. 1300 for 2. Must be inflation as I remember the prices being lower, anyway, went in, showered, changed to the standard outfit and went up. Noticed that on the way to the fishbowl I met a numbered girl every couple of meters. Don't know if this was coincidence of something new as I haven't been at 999 since before the Expo. They were better dressed but had a number nonetheless, all were friendly and greeted me. Didn't ask if they could be picked as well.[/QUOTE]I think I know what you are talking about. These girls are not available for FS, the best they could do for you is a HJ or BJ. Officially, their job is to clean your ears while you are in the resting lounge. You can summon one of them to get your ears cleaned along with a little head and shoulder massage. They charge by every 15 minutes, forgot the exact price.

Hi chaps,

I popped into Fend Ding Yuan yesterday afternoon as I had some time. I arrived at about 12:30pm, so just after they had opened.

A funny little incident on the way up. As I got in the lift. 2 girls got in. They were going to the 4th floor which must have been some sort of shopping floor, as they were carrying a couple of shoe boxes. They were cute looking, and as I pressed the button for the 6th floor, they looked at each other and grinned. When they got out, the cutest one turned to me, waved and said "Bye Bye". I think they might know what happens on the 6th floor.

Anyway, usual sketch in the joint, put on slippers, given a wrist band, and walked to the holding room. Change into shorts and top, and wait. Papasan and 2 girls enter, I had expected this as I was early, so no fishbowl. I chose #32 as she looked the most fun.

Walk down to the room and she pops out to get her bag of tricks. Very shortly she is back, and we are into the shower. Nice chatting about how white I am, how strong I am etc. The usual stuff.

Onto the bed and then have the cat bath. Very nice, and I was relaxed at the end. She then asks me to flip over and proceeds to BBBJ whilst kneeling between my legs. This isn't going to cut it, so I move her round to 69. I find out she doesn't like a finger up her arse. She gets pretty wet, and she stops the BBBJ and asks me if I want to cum now. I wasn't having that, so I point to her "Mei Mei", and she says she is "Small, like mouse"!

Hmm, what to do.

She puts a cover on me, and I put her face down to do some Doggy action, but, she was tighter than a mouse!

Her solution was to get her friend (#55) who duly came along. Many alcohol wipes later, I had some BBBJ action from the new girl, and then on with another cover.

#32 was tight, but Xiaodidi fitted. Started with her on top, then from behind lying down, and finally missionary.

Good time was had. Had I known about the mouse issue, I might have chosen another, however, how do you ask that initially?

As I walked out of the room, it looked like there were alot of girls down one end of the corridor. I am guessing the Fishbowl was ready to go. This was around 2pm.

Anyway:-

Damage. 680 for one, but 1100 for two.

Looks. #32. 7 #55. 7.

Boobs. #32. 7 #55. 8 (eraser nipples. I love that)

GFE. #32. 7 #55. N / A (no girlfriend of mine has greated me with a BJ and sex within 5 mins of meeting her)

Thanks for all your posts!

- K.

So I got it in my head to try takeout (other than my regular from the massage place). Weighing options between Xintiandi and Manhattan, we decided on Manhattan for simple ease.

We went with a larger group Friday night, including some work people, so we were really just looking that night. It was really dead, hardly any girls there (like 10) but a normal number of guys. We weren't really looking that night anyway, just people watching and having a drink on our way through a bar crawl.

So me and another guy decided to have a go at it last night and make the best situation we could. Got there fairly early (around 10:30 or so) and it looked much the same as the night before. As the night wore on, however, it got back to normal with girls and guys streaming in steadly until you could barely walk. I kept trying to make contact with one or two girls who looked appealing, but they were either engaged or moving about so no luck on those, all the while avoiding some other eye contact where I was not interested.

I kept watching this one older gal (turned out to be 34) who had about the tightest body I'd seen. She was in there when we came in, and talked with a number of guys but never closed a deal. Finally around 12 I went up and started talking to her, as much as is possible in that place. A little flirting, grinding, etc. And I indicate it's time to go. She wants 1500, I counter 1000, we settle at 1200, but unfrotunately did not discuss time, which turned out to be a mistake later.

So back to the hotel, no one checking the door, no one asks her to register, so straight on up to the room. She takes a shower, I take a shower, and when I come out she's on the bed. Seriously the finest body I have ever laid hands on. Huge rack (fake, but marvelous) really muscular legs, incredible ass, tight stomach. So we do the normal, fool around, BBBJ. 69, etc. Etc. And I finish once. Then a little small talk as we prepare for a second round (or so I thought) until she starts talking about going back to work.

So now it's an argument, long story short I tell her no way 1200 for less than an hour and one pop, so I end up giving her 800 and booting her.

She's a Vietnamese girl. 34 years old, name was Niu (sp?) , wearing a black halter top and jeans, longish black hair, looks pretty solid all around. I think the advice here is don't leave out the time factor in the discussion. Aside from that, she was very nice, smoking hot, great service, highly recommend.

[QUOTE=Samgxs; 1172508]Anybody has the membership no. And password for bodi?

They didn't let me in tonight because I could and't provide it.

Thank you!

BTW, package increase to RMB 880 since 1 July.[/QUOTE]Price increase 10% is true. Bodi is getting expensive but girls are still the best in town. Cannot confirm that membership is needed to get in. Nobody asked me for membership number

[QUOTE=Knotawake;1176826]Heard today that New York, New York and Route 66 (girlie bars) across from the Hilton are closed (same owner). Does anyone know what happened and where the girls went?[/QUOTE]With any luck (or if there is any justice) they, and the owner, were locked up. Those weren't the worst of the bars there, but they are all scams and scam artists. Read back a few pages for some horror stories.

Hi,

Visited Hai Long as I was hoping to get first time red rope experience (tried 999, Sarcosa before). Reached there about 9:00 PM. After shower was brought to fish bowl. Asked for red rope both the man and the girl. Either they didn't understand or they didn't want to understand. Girl no 780 a bit chubby, what I didn't mind. However very routine and rush service: soapy massage (with lot of fake moan) , catbath, BBBJ and finally FS and finished in a bit more than half hour. Damage 780.

Can any body recomend place with red rope? O ranybody knows place with love or gyno chair?

PM also welcome to protect the places. Thank's for advice.

Pekshy.

[QUOTE=Miller Man; 1056573]I visited Hai Long (my first ever visit to such a place in mainland China)

Wow – I now see what I've been missing all these months. I actually thought the place was very clean, not run down at all. I was walked straight in – it is hard to find as the sign is not illuminated out front but follow others directions and the numbers and you'll find it. Just give can the number of the street, don't ask to be driven in as it's a bit tricky to find, especially if you can't speak Chinese. I showered and was lead to the waiting room and then the line up. There would have been 20 girls in there on a Sunday night – it was jam packed and a bit overwhelming at first. One smiled at me so I said – alright – her!

I'd tried to go a Sunday before and was told it was just foot massage. Anyways – it was on tonight. I chose 852 I think, she was a cute little girl with a reasonable rack 7 and a pretty good body. 7. She wasn't super thin but I think I could do better next time. They can't see you so you in the line I worked out, as when I was done choosing they all ran to the window to try and get a look at me. So you can feel free to take your time. This girl didn't speak a word – other than "I love you" which was quite annoying at the end to be honest as she'd said it non-stop all session.

We started with the shower where you lie down on the inflatable mattress, she gives a great body bath and plays with your cock a bit. She gave a little head but was more interested in cleaning both me and her from top to bottom. This went on a while, but you can't beat cleanliness.

Once the shower was over we got back into the adjoining room. I lay flat on my stomach and she gave me an amazing rim job, she actually seemed to love it, I did as well, so she kept going. I kneeled up and she pulled me off (or down) as she was licking me. Great stuff! I was fingering her and she was wet immediately, and was getting right into it.

She then gave me the red rope experience, where she hangs from the roof via red robes, with my dick in her mouth, spinning and sucking, spinning and sucking. I'd never had this before and it's quite an experience, but I don't think I'd bother again. It's more of a trick and I was trying not to blow so I could get down to the real stuff. I wasn't sure if they'd let me have two, so didn't want to waste the first!

She staddled me after putting a dinger on me. Again I felt she was right into it and didn't do the 'oww it's hurting' bit which I've had every time I've been out to places in Macau. Understand if it's true and that's cool, but it's usually a ploy to keep things really slow and gentle. I'm above average but western girls don't seem to have any issues. This girl certainly didn't which was a big plus and got me very excited.

We moved around a lot and she was cool with doggie, planned on ending with a CIM, but didn't get couldn't hold out! I think I'll try that next time.

As this place delivered on all requirements I don't think I'd bother trying to find another place – although if someone has tried Hai Long and can tell me another is even better then I'll get out the map and start hunting.

Cheers all and great to read your posts (from a first time poster) [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pekshy; 1177443]Hi,

Visited Hai Long as I was hoping to get first time red rope experience (tried 999, Sarcosa before). Reached there about 9:00 PM. After shower was brought to fish bowl. Asked for red rope both the man and the girl. Either they didn't understand or they didn't want to understand. Girl no 780 a bit chubby, what I didn't mind. However very routine and rush service: soapy massage (with lot of fake moan) , catbath, BBBJ and finally FS and finished in a bit more than half hour. Damage 780.

Can any body recomend place with red rope? O ranybody knows place with love or gyno chair?

PM also welcome to protect the places. Thank's for advice.

Pekshy.[/QUOTE]To Pekshy.

I don't know who told you that Hai long offer Red rope most place in Shanghai don't anymore, the one that still have them do a lousy job anyway the old Shanghai sauna use be the best one the girl there offer good red rope service but it been closed for a long time now.

Fast Eddie 48

I returned to Yoshiwara after visting there several months back. I had mechanical service then but wanted to give it a second chance. It's at 418 wuzhong Lu. You can't miss it.

First issue I have with this place is their are no main change / shower area. I got changed in front of 2 guys watching tv. The lockers are spread out into a maze of small waiting rooms. 2nd thing I don't like is once presented with the girls it's a scramble between you and anyone else there to get the best ones. I went at 1pm. Usually await time but walked into the viewing area with 4 or 5 other Chinese dudes. The 1st guy in went straight to a stunner and nabbed her. I had to quickly grab the 2nd best. There is no fishbowl, just girls standing around in a room. It's complete disorganized and as I left more girls were flowing in. Lucky none better than what I had chosen.

My girl was from Jilin in dongbei. No number. Cute, nice body, small breasts with sensitive eraser nipples. She was hardly wearing anything. Rooms ok, not flash not dirty. She went straight about her duties so it was hard to get her play around. As expected she proceded to be mechanical. Average soapy, didn't bother with much else. Good BBBJ though. That got me my 1st pop. She really seemed to like doing that. Here's where it got interesting. She started murmuring on in Chinese after I came. Couldn't understand what she was saying but I tried my best to communicate give mr 5-10 minutes and I'll be good to again. Straight away she started more BJ. Ok whatever. I was limp, gimmie a little rest! But on and on she went. This actually turned put to be a blessing because she tried real hard to get me hard, she was touching herself and trying everything me. I just sly there knowing I ain't going to ready just yet. She put on a Johnny and tried to get me inside her. I'm still limp baby but seemed keener than ever. I had to stop this madness. I spoke out in English 'stop fooling around. Just wait 5 minutes and I'll be good to go'. This she had no idea and thought I was upset so she started playing with herself again. Good move this got me going and instead of relying on her fumbling and trying too much to coax the genie out of the bottle. I hot myself hard while she played with herself. Much quicker and easier than her antics. Another Johnny on and I spent the last 20 min pounding her hard. She seemed to really enjoy this and was no longer acting out the checklist. All that effort on me and herself got her horny. Her bean was pumped. A couple of different positions and a hard thrusting finish (the benefit of the second pop). Showered and 90 minutes was up. Whatever good feeling we had managed to salvage out of the scene came to an abrupt end when I asked to leave. She said I was supposed to stay 2 hours. I figured she would cop a penalty but that's not my problem / I'd rather she had better service than longer service. Anyway her high switched to be grumpy at me leaving after 90 minutes. Such is life baby.

I don't know if I'll ever repeat that place. Nice establishment but dislike the process and I think the way the girls are trained. Still got a great BBBJ and 2 shots and she did have a reasonable bod and face. Interesting experience trying to communicate that I can't have multiple orgasms, that I need at least 10 minutes downtime. It was all a bit weird.

On way out yet again I get changed in front of guys trying to watch the tv. I rushed out of there. None of that satisfied honorable experience other placed like heting / hailang exude.

Damage 800 (supposedly for 2 hours)

Establishment: good, clean, terrible changing and choosing process.

Girl: body 8, face 7, tits small but good, attitude 4.

I wonder what Yoshiwara means.

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1176950]Nice report.

Can you provide more detail on the girls, tall or short, hair, BoBos etc?[/QUOTE]855 * B-cup * est. 160-165 cm tall * long dark hair in a pony tail.

819 * B / C-cup (bigger than 855 but not much) * est. 155-160 cm tall * half long brown hair, initially in a tail, later looking mightily fine with loose hair

[QUOTE=Vincent P;1177294]Price increase 10% is true. Bodi is getting expensive but girls are still the best in town. Cannot confirm that membership is needed to get in. Nobody asked me for membership number[/QUOTE]Cypress is also charging 880 now.

[QUOTE=Pekshy; 1177443]Hi,

Visited Hai Long as I was hoping to get first time red rope experience (tried 999, Sarcosa before). Reached there about 9:00 PM. After shower was brought to fish bowl. Asked for red rope both the man and the girl. Either they didn't understand or they didn't want to understand. Girl no 780 a bit chubby, what I didn't mind. However very routine and rush service: soapy massage (with lot of fake moan) , catbath, BBBJ and finally FS and finished in a bit more than half hour. Damage 780.

Can any body recomend place with red rope? O ranybody knows place with love or gyno chair?

PM also welcome to protect the places. Thank's for advice.

Pekshy.[/QUOTE]I had a red rope experience in 999 before the Expo, and a quite good one as well. No sight or mention of it during the last visit.

Yoshiwara is (arguably) the oldest and most expensive soapland district in Tokyo.

[QUOTE=White Dragon; 1177651]I returned to Yoshiwara after visting there several months back. I had mechanical service then but wanted to give it a second chance. It's at 418 wuzhong Lu. You can't miss it.

I wonder what Yoshiwara means.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=White Dragon;1177651]I returned to Yoshiwara after visting there several months back. I had mechanical service then but wanted to give it a second chance. It's at 418 wuzhong Lu. You can't miss it.[/QUOTE]Just wondering what is the place called right now, they've changed their name several times.

Used to be JiYuan 3 (Yoshiwara 3) , then after the LE bust, it got changed to YaoHong.

I've only been there once when it was still called JiYuan 3.

Thanks very much.

[QUOTE=DaoYu; 1177675]855 * B-cup * est. 160-165 cm tall * long dark hair in a pony tail.

819 * B / C-cup (bigger than 855 but not much) * est. 155-160 cm tall * half long brown hair, initially in a tail, later looking mightily fine with loose hair[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShLax; 1176913]

[QUOTE=Jman90024; 1175870]I have been checking out the Shanghai apartment girls sites like.

[url=http://lang520.com/?fromuid=10113]Lang520[/url][/QUOTE]Sorry for my limited Madarin ability, tried looking through the site, even with Google translate, can you be a bit more specific where I can find apartment girls?[/QUOTE]Hmm. You need to get the QQ numbers of the girls from the forum first and add her to chat and figure out the location, services and price. Typically, it's 300 400 a pop. The process won't be easy without some Mandarin skill.

I'll be spending a couple weeks on holiday in China soon and I'm trying to put together an itinerary for myself, specifically how much time to devote to Shanghai. I'll start off by saying that Shanghai is my least favorite city in China, although I've only spent a few days there and I wasn't able to "play" at all. But I'm flying in to PVG, so I think at least a couple days is warranted. My preference is very strongly for pick up bars, with outcall and maybe hotel massage distant second choices. I have no interest in BBS or incall massage. Just not my preference. I know Shanghai has Manhattan's, Judy's, etc, but I'm wondering what the options for bar pickups are like in Suzhou. From lurking on that forum I gather there are at least a few bars where working girls hang out, and compared to what I read about the Shanghai bars Suzhou sounds a lot mellower (which I like). Between the two cities I have 5 nights so. 3 in Shanghai. 2 in Suzhou? Or 2 in Shanghai. 3 in Suzhou? I should also not that I have a strong preference for Chinese vs. SE Asian providers, and I understand the Shanghai bar scene is largely the latter. I don't know about Suzhou. Will cross-post in that forum as well to get some info from the regulars and locals there.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

[QUOTE=Jsxyz; 1178409]I'll be spending a couple weeks on holiday in China soon and I'm trying to put together an itinerary for myself, specifically how much time to devote to Shanghai. I'll start off by saying that Shanghai is my least favorite city in China, although I've only spent a few days there and I wasn't able to "play" at all. But I'm flying in to PVG, so I think at least a couple days is warranted. My preference is very strongly for pick up bars, with outcall and maybe hotel massage distant second choices. I have no interest in BBS or incall massage. Just not my preference. I know Shanghai has Manhattan's, Judy's, etc, but I'm wondering what the options for bar pickups are like in Suzhou. From lurking on that forum I gather there are at least a few bars where working girls hang out, and compared to what I read about the Shanghai bars Suzhou sounds a lot mellower (which I like). Between the two cities I have 5 nights so. 3 in Shanghai. 2 in Suzhou? Or 2 in Shanghai. 3 in Suzhou? I should also not that I have a strong preference for Chinese vs. SE Asian providers, and I understand the Shanghai bar scene is largely the latter. I don't know about Suzhou. Will cross-post in that forum as well to get some info from the regulars and locals there.

Thanks in advance for any advice![/QUOTE]In Shanghai I have barely seen good looking p4p girls from China, at least in the typial spots like manhatten, malones, zapatas.

There are good looking girls in the bars in the tong mill but you might spent 2000 rmb on drinks without getting nowhere.

The only bar where you are 100% certain what you get is manhatten, but almost 0 Chinese in there.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1178461]There are good looking girls in the bars in the tong mill but you might spent 2000 rmb on drinks without getting nowhere.

[/QUOTE]

Might also visit XinTianDi (large club / bar area in the French Consession) , always worth a visit if you are visiting ShangHai for the first time (if nothing for the sight alone) It might be hard to spot the WG's', but there are WG's in the clubs and bars, and who knows, you might be lucky and accidentally score a freebee.

Just hop into any taxi and tell the driver "XinTianDi" (新天地 = lit. new heaven earth/new world), every taxi driver knows that area.

[QUOTE=Laowei137; 1178650]Might also visit XinTianDi (large club / bar area in the French Consession) , always worth a visit if you are visiting ShangHai for the first time (if nothing for the sight alone) It might be hard to spot the WG's', but there are WG's in the clubs and bars, and who knows, you might be lucky and accidentally score a freebee.

Just hop into any taxi and tell the driver "XinTianDi" (&26032; &22825; &22320; = lit. New heaven earth / new world) , every taxi driver knows that area.[/QUOTE]Best to stick with XinTianDi and not French Concession, it's a bit of a stretch to say XinTianDi is located there.

It has been a couple of years since I visited Shanghai, and I see nothing recent on the thread about the Shanghai Hotel Sauna. Is it still open, or was it permanrently closed when EXPO came to Shanghai? I will be visiting Shanghai next week and would like any info people have on it.

WOODMAN

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1177538]To Pekshy.

I don't know who told you that Hai long offer Red rope most place in Shanghai don't anymore, the one that still have them do a lousy job anyway the old Shanghai sauna use be the best one the girl there offer good red rope service but it been closed for a long time now.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

Fast Eddie 48:

Sorry, I missed your report about the Shanghai Hotel Sauna being closed.

WOODMAN

[QUOTE=Laowei137; 1178650]Might also visit XinTianDi (large club / bar area in the French Consession) , always worth a visit if you are visiting ShangHai for the first time (if nothing for the sight alone) It might be hard to spot the WG's', but there are WG's in the clubs and bars, and who knows, you might be lucky and accidentally score a freebee.

Just hop into any taxi and tell the driver "XinTianDi" (&26032; &22825; &22320; = lit. New heaven earth / new world) , every taxi driver knows that area.[/QUOTE]Thanks Laowei. I have been to Shanghai once before and we did spend a couple nights drinking in XinTianDi; there were definitely Chinese working girls at the bar at Paulaner (I got in a bit of trouble with the SO for flirting with one of them!) , although they weren't exactly top-shelf. Paulaner was also full of tables of Chinese girls who I wasn't sure about, maybe working, maybe not, maybe just out partying but definitely giving me lots of smiles and even one offer to join two of them for a beer.

We also went to an upscale club directly across the way with live music, can't recall the name, but it was quite nice and there was one table of two drop-dead gorgeous Chinese girls who I suspected were working. Maybe "suspecting" in this case could be more accurately described as "hoping to dear god"! LOL.

XTD is definitely on my list when I go back, and Paulaner will be my first stop.

[QUOTE=John Clit;1161468]Hey guys has anyone tried helenandfriends they say they have in call and out.[/QUOTE]I have used ther several times, girls are very true to picutres, no FS unless you can work it out of them, but will provide everything else. Heklen is a little ball of fire.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz; 1178716]Thanks Laowei. I have been to Shanghai once before and we did spend a couple nights drinking in XinTianDi; there were definitely Chinese working girls at the bar at Paulaner (I got in a bit of trouble with the SO for flirting with one of them!) , although they weren't exactly top-shelf. Paulaner was also full of tables of Chinese girls who I wasn't sure about, maybe working, maybe not, maybe just out partying but definitely giving me lots of smiles and even one offer to join two of them for a beer.

We also went to an upscale club directly across the way with live music, can't recall the name, but it was quite nice and there was one table of two drop-dead gorgeous Chinese girls who I suspected were working. Maybe "suspecting" in this case could be more accurately described as "hoping to dear god"! LOL.

XTD is definitely on my list when I go back, and Paulaner will be my first stop.[/QUOTE]Just don't go too late as only old hags are left wandering around. 11pm a good time.

Hello, anyone can tell me if any of these saunas like Bodi. 999, Sacrosa or any other place with a fishbowl is opened 24/7? I know Bodi closes around 3 and I need something even later in the morning.

Well I'm back. Some might remember I made a few reports before.

I'm not trying to find a girl for sex, I am looking now for a real 'mean' bitchy kind of girl who does SM, specifically ballbusting (LOL. Well, I don't expect you guys to pass judgement) for an hour or so? I saw some professional dominatrix in Shanghai but they are all like 2000rmb plus for just 1 hour, and they don't actually look like they really know how to dominate. They look like fakes in shiny latex.

If anyone knows where I should look, or some QQ numbers, I'd very much appreciate a pm or a reply. I can't be the only guy out there with this niche interest. One would think in Shanghai it'd be rather easy to find a girl willing to kick a guy in the balls preety easy, but not so in my experience.

Soon I will be staying near the Courtyard by Marriott Shanghai Puxi. I do not have much time to play but if I can, I have to do it quickly. Is there a place somewhere close and easy to get to near me. If I am lucky, I can get away for two hours and get a fast jolly good time. Thank you.

RamHer

[QUOTE=Ramher;1179283]Soon I will be staying near the Courtyard by Marriott Shanghai Puxi. I do not have much time to play but if I can, I have to do it quickly. Is there a place somewhere close and easy to get to near me. If I am lucky, I can get away for two hours and get a fast jolly good time. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Best bets, will take you the full 2 hours including taxi there and back, are:

1277 Zhongshan Xi Lu (Hailang)

999 Tianyaoqiao Lu (999)

I haven't located anything else nearby that looks promising.

A few fun events this week.

First, staying at the Eton, those familiar with the area know this place is ground zero for girl bars and massage joints. I got hooked up with a nice girl at one of the local spots, kind of skinny chick, but really good massage technique and HE without any fuss.

Then last night paid a little tuition. Decided I wanted to try an outcall girl, but couldn't find a person outside bringing any offers. So I went to the intrawebs and found a number or two, after a few texts a girl was on her way. Clearly asked and ensured time was 2 hours for multiple shots. 1000 RMB. Girl gets there and is pretty drunk, but not terrible, and was actually quite attractive. She got right down to business asking for the money up front, of course I said no, but gave her half then. She strips, I strip, and she blows sitting in the little hotel chair, then gets a dome and mounts me right in the chair. I move her to the bed, three four positions, and done.

So then she goes and showers, and when she comes back, starts getting dressed. I'm asking WTF, it's been 20 mionutes, I was told 2 hours. She says no. 1 hour. She says no multiple shots. So she gets on the phone with someone who tells her something, but doesn't change her story. I tell her she can leave with half the money any time, but I'm not giving her the rest. She calls her boss back and puts me on the phone with him. This guy starts trying to negotiate me, and it devolves into him threatening to come up to my room with a friend. Long story short, I convince her to do the right thing, one more shot, and then get the fuck out. She's still bugging me over cab money, but of course at this point I'm telling her to plainly fuck off. I can provide a text number to avoid via PM, but there are surely many of the CL numbers going to the same place. Recommend avoiding altogether.

Then tonight we went over to 999. I picked a kinky looking little thing number 916, a little chubby but nice, very friendly, good technique, but damage was 800 for only 60 minutes or so. I thought I had been reading lately it was 90 minutes. The lineup was damn good though. 20 girls, lots of solid choices.

I've been playing around for a long time in shanghai now and I am used to every sauna or areas that are well known on these board (wuzhong. Jinhui.).

I feel like me and my friends (we are all laowai) were always welcomed in every kind of places (BBS, sauna, MP) and that's pretty good. Recently, I decided to change my playground and to focus more on baoshan, hongkou and around this huge area and there is actually a lot to do over there. Business being pretty obvious and it'crazy fulfilled by everykind of leisure places. But I regret that we are not as welcome as we were in other places in town (especially BBS). Does anybody know around there and do you feel that way?

I am right now out of town for summer and will be back mid-August, if someone wants to go out and play when I am back . MP.

Dear Members,

I am fed up seeing western guys with those tall good looking Chinese girls, does anyone know where you can meet get to know them free or not it does not matter.

I live in Shanghai and don't see many opportunities to meet girls like this.

Thanks in advance for the help.

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai; 1179363]Best bets, will take you the full 2 hours including taxi there and back, are:

1277 Zhongshan Xi Lu (Hailang)

999 Tianyaoqiao Lu (999)

I haven't located anything else nearby that looks promising.[/QUOTE]It sounds good. I will see if I can get away. I do not even know hwr to get there. Just worried about the taxi. They aways take to long way.

Guys,

I've been checking the forums at lang520 and what I see looks promising. Loads of WGs can be found via QQ, most of them working from their homes. Prices are mostly 300 or 400. Most have pictures available. You can't of course be too sure that they're always real but there is even a special forum. For verification and reports, so I guess those can be mostly trusted. What I do see in the reports are loads of abbreviations, like:

KJ, ML, BL, MM, FW, PP, JJ, XX, SN, XL, MY, GT, RT, GG, DD, XDD, SJ.

I figured out MM stands for meimei, little sister, all WGs are called MM in the reports. I have no idea what the other abbreviations stand for, does. Anyone know this?

I've contacted one girl and asked what services she provides. She came back with this:

&26381; &21153; :&20570; &29233; &65292; &21475; &20570; , &33016; &25512; , &28459; &28216; , &20912; &28779; .69&24335; , &21475; &29190; , &40499; &40495; &28020; . &23039; &21183; &38543; &24847;

(Fuwu: Zuo'ai, kou zuo, xiong tui, manyou, bing huo. 69 shi, koubao, yuanyangyu. Zishi suiyì).

Google translate makes this of it:

Services: love, made the mouth, chest push, roaming, Addict. 69 style, mouth explosion, Yuanyang Yu. Posture random

Several here aren't immediately clear either. Any help translating these is appreciated.

[QUOTE=Ramher; 1179283]Soon I will be staying near the Courtyard by Marriott Shanghai Puxi. I do not have much time to play but if I can, I have to do it quickly. Is there a place somewhere close and easy to get to near me. If I am lucky, I can get away for two hours and get a fast jolly good time. Thank you.

RamHer[/QUOTE]You are pretty close to the Holiday Inn Vista on Changshou Lu. The 3rd floor sauna is pretty good. It's probably 5 minutes cab ride from you.

Hey guys just wondering if everybody still has a problem with the photo gallery still. Thanks

[QUOTE=John Clit;1180923]Hey guys just wondering if everybody still has a problem with the photo gallery still. Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes with IE.

Tehre is a specific thread for this in the general section and quite some members already alerted Jackson, to no avail

Haha, I have been hang out at.

[url=http://lang520.com/?fromuid=10113]Lang520[/url]

As well. The apartment girls are totally hit and miss. I used to go to apartment girls a few years ago and the quality was much better. But digging through enough junk in that place, I still manage to find a few keepers. I think I will stick with sauna. The forum also has a good sections on sauna and BBS. Anyone here interested in take one for the team, please report back and we can exchange info of good apartment girls.

For the abbreviations:

KJ (Kou Jiao) : Oral Sex.

ML: Make Love

MM (Mei Mei) : girls.

JJ (Ji Ji) , DD (Di Di) , XDD (Xiao Di Di) : penus

SN (San na) : Sauna.

GG (Ge Ge) : men.

[QUOTE=DaoYu; 1180833]Guys,

I've been checking the forums at lang520 and what I see looks promising. Loads of WGs can be found via QQ, most of them working from their homes. Prices are mostly 300 or 400. Most have pictures available. You can't of course be too sure that they're always real but there is even a special forum. For verification and reports, so I guess those can be mostly trusted. What I do see in the reports are loads of abbreviations, like:

KJ, ML, BL, MM, FW, PP, JJ, XX, SN, XL, MY, GT, RT, GG, DD, XDD, SJ.

I figured out MM stands for meimei, little sister, all WGs are called MM in the reports. I have no idea what the other abbreviations stand for, does. Anyone know this?

I've contacted one girl and asked what services she provides. She came back with this:

&26381; &21153; :&20570; &29233; &65292; &21475; &20570; , &33016; &25512; , &28459; &28216; , &20912; &28779; .69&24335; , &21475; &29190; , &40499; &40495; &28020; . &23039; &21183; &38543; &24847;

(Fuwu: Zuo'ai, kou zuo, xiong tui, manyou, bing huo. 69 shi, koubao, yuanyangyu. Zishi suiyì).

Google translate makes this of it:

Services: love, made the mouth, chest push, roaming, Addict. 69 style, mouth explosion, Yuanyang Yu. Posture random

Several here aren't immediately clear either. Any help translating these is appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jman90024;1180861]You are pretty close to the Holiday Inn Vista on Changshou Lu. The 3rd floor sauna is pretty good. It's probably 5 minutes cab ride from you.[/QUOTE]The place is inside the Holiday Inn? Also, do they provice special services and if they do, what are the fees? I know I ask too many Q's. Sorry

Greetings all. I RTTFFF and had a wonderful time at Bodi in June on my 1st trip before posting. Can't agree more and I give thanks to this forum for the guidance. Bodi is a wonderful place.

I have a trip scheduled for late August. Can anyone point me to a good reasonably priced hotel in the Xi Tian Di area? The Spas are great, but I'm kinda partial to girls who are not professional. Enthusiasm is a wonderful thing and all I see says Xi Tian Di is the place to go for local fun. Thoughts all?

Greetings all. I RTTFFF and had a wonderful time at Bodi in June on my 1st trip before posting. Can't agree more and I give thanks to this forum for the guidance. Bodi is a wonderful place.

I have a trip scheduled for late August. Can anyone point me to a good reasonably priced hotel in the Xi Tian Di area? The Spas are great, but I'm kinda partial to girls who are not professional. Enthusiasm is a wonderful thing and all I see says Xi Tian Di is the place to go for local fun. Thoughts all?

Greetings all. I RTTFFF and had a wonderful time at Bodi in June on my 1st trip before posting. Can't agree more and I give thanks to this forum for the guidance. Bodi is a wonderful place.

I have a trip scheduled for late August. Can anyone point me to a good reasonably priced hotel in the Xi Tian Di area? The Spas are great, but I'm kinda partial to girls who are not professional. Enthusiasm is a wonderful thing and all I see says Xi Tian Di is the place to go for local fun. Thoughts all?

[QUOTE=DaoYu; 1180833]Guys,

I've been checking the forums at lang520 and what I see looks promising. Loads of WGs can be found via QQ, most of them working from their homes. Prices are mostly 300 or 400. Most have pictures available. You can't of course be too sure that they're always real but there is even a special forum. For verification and reports, so I guess those can be mostly trusted. What I do see in the reports are loads of abbreviations, like:

KJ, ML, BL, MM, FW, PP, JJ, XX, SN, XL, MY, GT, RT, GG, DD, XDD, SJ.

I figured out MM stands for meimei, little sister, all WGs are called MM in the reports. I have no idea what the other abbreviations stand for, does. Anyone know this?

I've contacted one girl and asked what services she provides. She came back with this:

&26381; &21153; :&20570; &29233; &65292; &21475; &20570; , &33016; &25512; , &28459; &28216; , &20912; &28779; .69&24335; , &21475; &29190; , &40499; &40495; &28020; . &23039; &21183; &38543; &24847;

(Fuwu: Zuo'ai, kou zuo, xiong tui, manyou, bing huo. 69 shi, koubao, yuanyangyu. Zishi suiyì).

(Services: make love, blow job, massage with boobs, roaming, ice and fire. 69 position, cum in the mouth,

Google translate makes this of it:

Services: love, made the mouth, chest push, roaming, Addict. 69 style, mouth explosion, Yuanyang Yu. Posture random

Several here aren't immediately clear either. Any help translating these is appreciated.[/QUOTE] (Fuwu: Zuo'ai, kou zuo, xiong tui, manyou, bing huo. 69 shi, koubao, yuanyangyu. Zishi suiyì).

Let me translate them for you:

(Services: make love, blow job, massage with boobs, roaming, ice and fire. 69 position, cum in the mouth, take shower or in the bathtub together. Any position possible)

[QUOTE=Ramher;1181270]The place is inside the Holiday Inn? Also, do they provice special services and if they do, what are the fees? I know I ask too many Q's. Sorry[/QUOTE]Yup, it's inside the Holiday Inn. They do have special service and the cost is 750 before 6 PM and 888 after. It's a bit more pricy and it's a great place.

Dear All,

First of all, I am a long time reader and I've been around for some years now. I posted a couple of reports about Heting (when they first opened in late 2008 thanks to Appelcrate under another name) Well, I'm coming back cause I am curious. Yesterday I was in Ningxia Lu 384 (Putuo) and saw it was closed, totally closed, under construction, they were probably building something else and the place is down for good.

Another huge sauna in Anhua lu 85, off Jiangsu Lu (Changning) is also closed, this time around I did not see any construction but the doors were locked. This sauna is in ahuge colonial type building and although I have not been in any of these two, the reports of an old list from 2007 said they were pretty good. I know those are a little off the normal track saunas. If anyone has anything to comment about them it will be welcomed. Lately I'm trying to discover new places.

Thanks,

Rumescu

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1174197]Several BBS down a side street south of Jinqiao Road. Sorry it doesn't seem to have a name, but it is between Jintai Road. (several BBS on that street as well) and Yanggao Middle Road. On Google Map, there is a business named 'Jinqiao Wholesale Dept. ' written over the street.

Anyway, standard BBS action, ladies sitting at the windows in dresses. I went at lunch time. Picked one of the places on the south side of the street, name only in Chinese, so can't remember. Chose a 30's MILF, FS multiple positions, damage 100RMB, no Mandarin required.

Nice down market action for a Friday lunch.[/QUOTE]Good find. I've walked past the end of that street many times without even realizing it was a street! Having said that, you're right about the down-market aspect. The ladies did not look too appealing when I strolled along there. They seemed to think the same about me, so no business was transacted. I would probably spend another 100 and stick to Jintai Lu in future. Or go across the other side of Century Park to Yinghua Lu, which seems to be developing into a busy BBS community.

How many pops is a guy allowed at Bodi during a standard session?

Small BBS on Daming Road at Qingpu Road. Bunch of average girls, but they don't understand the concept. Went for massage, rate was $100/1hr. Asked about special, and after some hand signals arrived at $200/1hr w / HJ. She decides to start with the HJ, probably hoping I'll leave after that. Tried to upsell FS for $800; I countered with $300. She incremented down to $500, but sorry, still not interested. The massage was more of a beating, really. I thought maybe she was trying to get me to give up and leave. She got tired of karate chopping and bi*ch slapping me after about 30 minutes. I was thoroughly disappointed, told her so, paid the damage and left. Guess you get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=WillyWonker;1181810]How many pops is a guy allowed at Bodi during a standard session?[/QUOTE]I assume it's two. I think the standard is to give you one pop by hand or mouth, the other pop by the regular way.

I have been almost always offered two pops without asking at Bodi.

[QUOTE=Maddu; 1173206]Day 2: Went in search of Dream Spa in the afternoon, I had read that the entrance to the SPA is on the side of the Jin Jiang hotel but I ended up on left side instead of right side. A hotel staff guided me to 3rd floor which happened to be Jin Jiang's inhouse SPA. I asked for 750 RMB package and the girl in the reception told me no such package and guided me to Dream SPA on the right side of the hotel in ground floor. After locking the things in the locker and bath, was guided to waiting room in the basement. Within 5 mins, I was shown a parade of 15 girls, all wishing Nihao to me. I liked 2-3 and chose #865 among them as she was tall with good boobs. She took me by hand to the decent size room with a massage table and some weird looking chair. Next 2 hours was pure bliss with Cat Bath. 1 CBJ. 2 FS shots and some massage. I was a happy man that day. I was offered some Green Tea and Watermelon to recuperate in the waiting room and spent 10 mins there watching some news, left the place after collecting things from locker and paying 750 RMB.

Seems pretty obvious from the description above. Took a taxi to Jin Jiang Hotel (front door of hotel faces a large courtyard, with a big lawn, correct?)

Went to the right before going in the hotel- nothing there. Went out to the street, and basically made a big circle around the hotel, still couldn't find it. Asked inside the hotel where Dream Spa was, but they didn't know. They pointed me down the street toward Jin Jiang Towers. Went there, still no luck. Back to the hotel. 3rd floor to look for the in-house spa; didn't see it. Nothing but rooms.

What the heck, was I in the right place? I spent a good 30-45 minutes looking for this place. Please help with a bit more detail. Couldn't be there are two hotels with the same name, right?

Thanks

[QUOTE=WillyWonker;1182172]Took a taxi to Jin Jiang Hotel (front door of hotel faces a large courtyard, with a big lawn, correct?)[/QUOTE]Um, no.

[QUOTE=WillyWonker;1182172]Went to the right before going in the hotel- nothing there. Went out to the street, and basically made a big circle around the hotel, still couldn't find it. Asked inside the hotel where Dream Spa was, but they didn't know. They pointed me down the street toward Jin Jiang Towers. Went there, still no luck. Back to the hotel. 3rd floor to look for the in-house spa; didn't see it. Nothing but rooms.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you were in Puxi at Jinjiang Hotel on Maoming Road, which is completely the wrong part of town. You've got to get over to Pudong at the Jinjiang Oriental Hotel on South Yanggao Road across from Lancun Road. Hope you have better luck next time. Although, I wouldn't recommend Dream Spa. I've been there once, and the facilities and lineup was just not up to par, in my humble opinion. Bodi is much, much better.

Seems pretty obvious from the description above. Took a taxi to Jin Jiang Hotel (front door of hotel faces a large courtyard, with a big lawn, correct?)

Went to the right before going in the hotel- nothing there. Went out to the street, and basically made a big circle around the hotel, still couldn't find it. Asked inside the hotel where Dream Spa was, but they didn't know. They pointed me down the street toward Jin Jiang Towers. Went there, still no luck. Back to the hotel. 3rd floor to look for the in-house spa; didn't see it. Nothing but rooms.

What the heck, was I in the right place? I spent a good 30-45 minutes looking for this place. Please help with a bit more detail. Couldn't be there are two hotels with the same name, right?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi.

This is the place.

Sofitel Shanghai Jin Jiang Oriental Pudong. &19978; &28023; &19996; &38182; &27743; &32034; &33778; &29305; &22823; &37202; &24215;

889&21495; Yanggao South Road, Pudong Xinqu, &28006; &19996; &26032; &21306; , China.

This is hotel with big tower, go inside the main gate and taxi will drop you at the Portico. Now do not enter the main building instead go to your right side (Right side when you face the hotel lobby, left side will have some cycle stand and cargo loading area of the hotel). Walk some 20 mtrs and you will find entrance to Dream SPA on your left with proper reception. The SPA is in the same building as the hotel but with different entrance.

Trust this clarifies

[QUOTE=Maddu; 1182194]Seems pretty obvious from the description above. Took a taxi to Jin Jiang Hotel (front door of hotel faces a large courtyard, with a big lawn, correct?)

Went to the right before going in the hotel- nothing there. Went out to the street, and basically made a big circle around the hotel, still couldn't find it. Asked inside the hotel where Dream Spa was, but they didn't know. They pointed me down the street toward Jin Jiang Towers. Went there, still no luck. Back to the hotel. 3rd floor to look for the in-house spa; didn't see it. Nothing but rooms.

What the heck, was I in the right place? I spent a good 30-45 minutes looking for this place. Please help with a bit more detail. Couldn't be there are two hotels with the same name, right?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi.

This is the place.

Sofitel Shanghai Jin Jiang Oriental Pudong. &19978; &28023; &19996; &38182; &27743; &32034; &33778; &29305; &22823; &37202; &24215;

Trust this clarifies[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are in Puxi as the Jin Jaing towers and the sofitel are bothe that side. Original poster refers to the Sofitel Oriental Pudong.

Try googling it.

[QUOTE=WillyWonker;1181810]How many pops is a guy allowed at Bodi during a standard session?[/QUOTE]I went to Bodi last night around midnight. No waiting, no fuss, nice lineup. Picked no. 575, short gal but nice smile and nice attitude. Went to the room and had the standard shower and then onto the table. She spent a particularly long time on the cat bath (on the shower table instead of in the bed) and then when it was time to flip over she gave a very good BBBJ. Usually I stop them so I can pop in the bed but she was really trying hard so I let go and came in her mouth, which she didn't mind at all. I know because she didn't start gagging and spitting it out like many do.

Finally into the bedroom and she puts on her panties and then starts to just massage me, WTF, does she think she is done? I told I wanted boom-boom and she said no, wrong time of the month for her, but she was happy to give me another BBBJ / CIM. Maybe that service because she couldn't put out in the normal way. She had a good attitude and seemed to like me and enjoy it, but maybe it was because she didn't want me to get pissed off and complain that she couldn't perform FS.

This was the first time this happened to me at Bodi.

[QUOTE=Ronin500; 1182548]I went to Bodi last night around midnight. No waiting, no fuss, nice lineup. Picked no. 575, short gal but nice smile and nice attitude. Went to the room and had the standard shower and then onto the table. She spent a particularly long time on the cat bath (on the shower table instead of in the bed) and then when it was time to flip over she gave a very good BBBJ. Usually I stop them so I can pop in the bed but she was really trying hard so I let go and came in her mouth, which she didn't mind at all. I know because she didn't start gagging and spitting it out like many do.

Finally into the bedroom and she puts on her panties and then starts to just massage me, WTF, does she think she is done? I told I wanted boom-boom and she said no, wrong time of the month for her, but she was happy to give me another BBBJ / CIM. Maybe that service because she couldn't put out in the normal way. She had a good attitude and seemed to like me and enjoy it, but maybe it was because she didn't want me to get pissed off and complain that she couldn't perform FS.

This was the first time this happened to me at Bodi.[/QUOTE]Thats is unacceptable not to give FS while working for the girl. If she is on the rag, she is usually home. I know that for fact as I have had a couple of these girls for takeout and more.

Mgmt will not allow a girl to work while on their period.

PC out

[QUOTE=Ronin500; 1182548]I went to Bodi last night around midnight. No waiting, no fuss, nice lineup. Picked no. 575, short gal but nice smile and nice attitude. Went to the room and had the standard shower and then onto the table. She spent a particularly long time on the cat bath (on the shower table instead of in the bed) and then when it was time to flip over she gave a very good BBBJ. Usually I stop them so I can pop in the bed but she was really trying hard so I let go and came in her mouth, which she didn't mind at all. I know because she didn't start gagging and spitting it out like many do.

Finally into the bedroom and she puts on her panties and then starts to just massage me, WTF, does she think she is done? I told I wanted boom-boom and she said no, wrong time of the month for her, but she was happy to give me another BBBJ / CIM. Maybe that service because she couldn't put out in the normal way. She had a good attitude and seemed to like me and enjoy it, but maybe it was because she didn't want me to get pissed off and complain that she couldn't perform FS.

This was the first time this happened to me at Bodi.[/QUOTE]That is strange. I heard the girls get a week off during their period. Management would not let girls work during that time.

[QUOTE=WillyWonker;1181810]How many pops is a guy allowed at Bodi during a standard session?[/QUOTE]Hi, Since Bodi increased the prices I have the impression that the girls rush a bit. Last time one told me that I just booked 1 hour and there is no time for a 2nd round. Before thAt I find had any problems. No rush. Two pops. One in the shower one on the bed. Duration 90 minutes. Did you made the same experience?

Ecke

[QUOTE=Ringer5;1181665]Good find. I've walked past the end of that street many times without even realizing it was a street! Having said that, you're right about the down-market aspect. The ladies did not look too appealing when I strolled along there. They seemed to think the same about me, so no business was transacted. I would probably spend another 100 and stick to Jintai Lu in future. Or go across the other side of Century Park to Yinghua Lu, which seems to be developing into a busy BBS community.[/QUOTE]I was admiring the BBS action one street closer to the Inner Ring from Linghua Road the other night too. Much improved from a couple years ago. Some really nice lookers.

Anyone know of any BBS on Yuyao or Yanping lu or in the near vicinity? I'm in a hotel in that locale and took a walk around but mostly saw topless guys sweating over grills and people playing cards.

Before I left Shanghai several weeks ago, I finally decided to visit Hailang around 3PM on a weekday. Took subway line 4 to Yi Shan Lu station and took exit 5 going NW on Kaixuan Lu, turning left on Xuhong Bei Lu, and then turning right on Zhongshan Xi Lu, which should be running next to an elevated road. After walking for a good 20-30 minutes, I saw the sign for Hailang on the right. Go into the complex on the right, go left down the corridor between the two buildings and the entrance for the sauna will be on your right.

After standard sauna fare (number tag, locker, shower, sauna PJs) , get escorted to the elevator. On the way up, I tell the elevator attendant that I would like red rope service (hong sheng in Chinese). Upon exiting the elevator, the elevator attendant tells the papa-san who immediately starts wondering out loud which girls can do the red rope service and whether any red rope rooms were available. Afterwards, he brings me to the fish bowl where there were around 20 girls in a small room behind a pane of glass that all looked pretty good. As I debated in my mind which girl to select, the papa-san recommended a girl with a red number tag, who we'll call Ting in this report. As Ting would later mention, girls that have a red number tag have received a certain number of repeat visits within a certain amount of time for whatever reason (high service levels? High level of hotness?) and receive a much higher cut of the payment for repeat visitors.

Ting then escorted me to a room with a bed in the middle with what seemed like a large red jungle gym over it. When I commented what an interesting setup it was, Ting mentioned that only a few rooms had such a setup and fewer girls who were willing to do the red rope service. Attached to the bedroom was a large bathroom with a large bed in the middle and was where we headed after undressing. Ting was 24 years old. 5'5, 36Cs, from harbin, and upon undressing revealed super large nipples, a personal favorite of mine. After a quick shower, moved to the bed in the bathroom. She then asked me what the most sensitive part of my body was and said that for her, the most sensitive part of her body were her nipples. During the soapy massage that followed, she used her giant nipples over every part of my body. I might as well have been in heaven.

After rinsing off, we proceeded to the bedroom where we started off with some light kisses and mutual touching and then she told me to lie down and she began her catbath, fire and ice, and AR routine. Afterwards, she then got mounted on the jungle gym and did the red rope service, which was my first time. Basically she's suspended upside down on the thing and does a spinning BBBJ. It was pretty entertaining and she had to be in pretty awesome shape to pull something like that off. After the red rope service, I helped her down and continued with some BBBJ, DATY, and 69. I then was sucking on her delicious nipples while fingering her. She then asked if I wanted to fuck her while she was suspended on the red rope. I was like, hell yeah. And she got herself suspended on the jungle gym and I proceeded to fuck her standing up, followed by doggy, and finishing in mish.

We then showered again and lay in the bed chatting until the time was up. All in all. 800RMB for 90 minutes of a really awesome time. My trip to Hailang has hands down been the best sauna experience I've had in mainland China and I would definitely repeat.

Before leaving Shanghai, I also visited the MP in report 3237 by maddog40 and report 3248 by dirknblane as I lived in the Plaza 66 area. You know you are at the right place as they have their prices listed on the window and you see a bunch of those large chairs for foot massage inside.

Went inside, asked for the back massage, and got escorted through the restaurant next door and up a staircase into a individual room setting. The location is really run down. But the rooms have their own bathrooms with shower area and the massage table is comfortable. A tall but not very attractive girl with a huge rack in her 30s from Sichuan came in and asked which massage I wanted so I asked for the oil massage. She asked me to shower first, which I did. The soap and shampoo that they provided were pretty harsh on my scalp and skin so avoid using that crap if you guys go. Afterwards, she came back and gave me a pretty awesome massage and was telling me her life story during the entire time which was really really sad. With about 20 minutes left to go, she pointed to my crotch and asked if I needed to be massaged there.

After hearing her sad sad life story, I wasn't feeling like a HJ anymore as I felt really really bad for her even though I could have helped her out with a tip while walking out with a smile on my face. Sad stories really kill the mood. I really need to stop asking WGs about their lives. Instead, she gave me a nice head massage and after she left, I rinsed the oil off in the shower and paid for the damage at the cashier in the restaurant! What a weird set up.

So yeah, the previous reports are pretty much spot on. If you want a nice massage with HJ HE in the Plaza 66 area at a decent price, check this place out if you don't mind diners at restaurant wondering where the hell you came from and giving you an odd look.

[QUOTE=Dirty Jersey;1182946]. As I debated in my mind which girl to select, the papa-san recommended a girl with a red number tag, who we'll call Ting in this report. As Ting would later mention, girls that have a red number tag have received a certain number of repeat visits within a certain amount of time for whatever reason (high service levels? High level of hotness?) and receive a much higher cut of the payment for repeat visitors.[/QUOTE]So Does Ting have a number?

My friend, a couple want 3p with a strong-sex ability man. They are in BEN BU city, AN HUI province.

[QUOTE=ShLax;1183655]So Does Ting have a number?[/QUOTE]As I get older and older, my memory gets worse and worse, especially when it comes to names and numbers, so unfortunately I don't remember her number. But if you go there, see someone with a red number tag and fits my physical description of her, then there is a high probability that it will be her unless she has quit her job since the last time I went there.

Went to heting yesterday. No massage available. Dropped in on the Nanjing markets sauna instead. Got a very nice Mongolian beauty. Elegant, pretty face, playful. Don't know her name but she has a tattoo on her shoulder and lower back. Normally don't like girls with tattoo's but she was ok. She liked speaking Japanese. The experience was half northern sister half Japanese AV girl!

BBBJ short but ok, DATY ok. She really enjoyed that, not sure about DFK. I told her not to bother with catbath and AR and she seemed very thankful and more GFE as a result. I usually refuse that routine.

Looks: 9.

Body: 7.

Breasts: 8.

Attitude: 10.

Sex: 8

I went for a late night walk through the Jing An area tonight. I was looking for the BBS once reported at Wuding Lu and Xikang Lu, but alas, it seemed to be gone, or closed tonight, anyway. So I wandered several streets in the area to see if any other BBS had magically appeared, but no luck. Saw a few dodgy looking massage parlors; I'm sure I could get a happy ending at those.

Headed down Shaanxi Lu to Nanyang Lu, and down the street in front of Big Bamboo, Manhattans, etc. This is where the walk got more interesting. I'm not used to seeing agressive street walkers in Shanghai, but after 2, they are there. As I walked down Nanyang, I was approached by a mix of really pretty and really ugly girls, making pretty reasonable offers. I'd say late at night, they are looking for the last, or only customer for the night, and prices drop.

I turned down Tongren Lu, and one (nan kan) girl came across,"I want to suck your, only 300, Chinese Money". I politely declined. As I got to Nanjing Road, one really pretty girl in a white dress stopped me. We had a pretty funny chat; her practicing her English on me and me practicing my Chinese on her. I'm sure we could have come to agreement if I'd been in the mood at that point.

I continued down toward Huashan and Changshu Road. I stay on the Hilton side of Huashan there, because the girls at the talking bars are sooo aggressive. It is sad, really. And at the intersection of Changshu with Julu road, this plump, aging womon ran across the street to me and insisted she should take me off in a dark corner for some action. I smiled and moved on. Tired, sweaty, and hot, I headed for home unlaid.

Did anyone ever figure out what happened to NYNY and Route 66 across from the Hilton? Agree, the girls were aggressive, but I had a regular there that was low key. I'd stop by on the way back from Velvet Lounge and agree to a voluntary fleecing for about 300 RMB before retiring for the night. The girls were fun as long as you understood it was a profit scheme and you were providing the profit. Did they just go "tits up" or did they get sideways with the local authorities? I figured they'd get busted for the activities in the upstairs rooms sooner or later. Just wondering? I've moved my mongering activities to Shenzhen and HK.

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai; 1184406]I went for a late night walk through the Jing An area tonight. I was looking for the BBS once reported at Wuding Lu and Xikang Lu, but alas, it seemed to be gone, or closed tonight, anyway. So I wandered several streets in the area to see if any other BBS had magically appeared, but no luck. Saw a few dodgy looking massage parlors; I'm sure I could get a happy ending at those.

Headed down Shaanxi Lu to Nanyang Lu, and down the street in front of Big Bamboo, Manhattans, etc. This is where the walk got more interesting. I'm not used to seeing agressive street walkers in Shanghai, but after 2, they are there. As I walked down Nanyang, I was approached by a mix of really pretty and really ugly girls, making pretty reasonable offers. I'd say late at night, they are looking for the last, or only customer for the night, and prices drop.

I turned down Tongren Lu, and one (nan kan) girl came across,"I want to suck your, only 300, Chinese Money". I politely declined. As I got to Nanjing Road, one really pretty girl in a white dress stopped me. We had a pretty funny chat; her practicing her English on me and me practicing my Chinese on her. I'm sure we could have come to agreement if I'd been in the mood at that point.

I continued down toward Huashan and Changshu Road. I stay on the Hilton side of Huashan there, because the girls at the talking bars are sooo aggressive. It is sad, really. And at the intersection of Changshu with Julu road, this plump, aging womon ran across the street to me and insisted she should take me off in a dark corner for some action. I smiled and moved on. Tired, sweaty, and hot, I headed for home unlaid.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knotawake;1184416]Did anyone ever figure out what happened to NYNY and Route 66 across from the Hilton? Agree, the girls were aggressive, but I had a regular there that was low key. I'd stop by on the way back from Velvet Lounge and agree to a voluntary fleecing for about 300 RMB before retiring for the night. The girls were fun as long as you understood it was a profit scheme and you were providing the profit. Did they just go "tits up" or did they get sideways with the local authorities? I figured they'd get busted for the activities in the upstairs rooms sooner or later. Just wondering? I've moved my mongering activities to Shenzhen and HK.[/QUOTE]Does anyone really care about a bunch of clip joints the city is better off without?

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Tried a different sauna today, at the corner of Pingli Road and Lingshi Road. In the far north corner of Putuo District. It is called MeiJing Sauna Chamber. The address is 137 Pingli Road. The sauna is on the 8th floor of the office building there on the corner.

To arrive by subway, take line 7, Dahuasan Road, exit 2. Short walk south on Hualing Road to Lingshi Road. Turn left, short walk to Pingli Road. The tall building on the corner is it. See the picture. Enter through the revolving doors. There is a hotel type desk there; I just walked straight through the lobby without stopping. Out the back door of the lobby you will find the elevator. Go to the 8th floor.

Not much English spoken here. I don't think I'd recommend this place if you don't speak any Chinese, but with a little, you'll be ok. The girl at the desk quoted me RMB 108 for a bath (Xi Zao) , to be paid at the end, but that is not the all inclusive price.

Next step is lockers. Similar to other saunas in town. Get a wrist band; put your stuff in the locker. There is a bag if you want to take something with you. Next is shower. There is no privacy here. After my shower, one of the guys really wanted to give me a back scrub and massage; I declined. I dried off with help from one of the guys. Then the Pajamas.

Next, through a large relaxation area with many seats to watch a small TV. Didn't stop there, but on into a hall with several bedrooms on either side. After a short wait, mama brought in two choices. I picked one. She was nice enough, pretty enough, but no stunner. Our conversation was very limited. I could not understand her accent at all.

Service was mechanical, and typical, except she used a small vibrator on me; never seen that before. Was kind of interesting.

Afterward, I didn't choose to stop in the relaxation area, but took another shower. The locker guys were ok. The same guy really wanted to give me the massage and back scrub; 'mian fei' he kept saying. I only remembered after I left the meaning of 'mian fei' – free of charge. Finally I gave in, took the short scrub and 'qiao bei' (back pounding massage). It seemed to make him really happy to get to do it. I think he was bored.

Paid the bill on the way out, RMB 680 total.

China experts. Please tell me what you think was going on here.

I was walking down Nanjing road east on a weekday, around 2PM, and was approached by a woman.about 25, slim figure, cute but not a knockout. Dressed average. Just like one of the professional women in our office. No brand stuff, no flash, just looked normal. She was walking around with a girl about 16, carrying bags like they had been clothes shopping. She approached me and started chatting in very good English "Very hot today, ahh. First time come Shanghai? My name Ting. You like football? Real Madrid coming to China next week". She said she was an English teacher, and that the kid was her student. The kid had rich parents in the countryside send their daughter to the city during summer to learn english. The story seemed plausable. The kid was well dressed, good manners, not too giggly, and actually did speak some English."Today hot. My name Ivy. I am 16." I knew something wasn't right, but I wanted to see where this was going.

We walked around Gap, Uniqulo, other stores looking at clothes for a couple hours. I was quite enjoying the company and the conversation. I figured she was probably for sale, which I was open for, but not ready to talk business yet, and the kid was there. After a couple hours, I was hungry and wanted to eat something. She pointed to a coffee shop (UCC coffee). Well known chain in Japan. Normal coffee shop. Legit storefront, wide open, big windows so you can see in and out. Lots of normal people drinking coffee and chatting. I was not 100% comfortable, on the lookout for what could go wrong. We got a booth, and the young girl started to sit next to me in the booth. I told both of them to sit opposite me in the booth, so that I don't get accused of anything inappropriate with a young girl. We ordered about Y70 worth of food / ice cream, about $13. It seemed like legitimate restaurant, food was OK. I didn't feel threatened at all, but certainly still had my guard up and still interested in the 25 Year old.

She had been telling me about life in Hunan. Sad stuff, mother had cancer, etc. Just setting up a sales pitch, I figured. I was interested. The two of them get up to go the bathroom, and when they come back 25YO sits down in booth next to me, kid on opposite side. Then it gets weird. She started rubbing my Johnson under the table, whispering in my ear "I want to go with you". Don't touch me here, I said, just wait, you need to get rid of the kid. No problem, she says, the kid will go home in a couple minutes.

Then a waiter shows up with 6 shots of whiskey and a fruit plate. Red Flag. I said in a loud voice "I'm not paying for any alcohol", please bring the bill now. Bill was Y2300 ($400+). I shout again "I did not order alcohol, I will not pay this". Waiter shows me the back page of the menu. Whisky shots Y300 ($45) , fruit plate Y400 ($60). Everything else on the menu is normally priced. Beer Y15, ice cream Y18, etc. I was calm but loudly accusing them of a scam. I said I will call police he says go ahead, its right here on the menu (which it is). Waiter says "you pay me Y470 I collect the rest from the girl.

25YO starts crying hysterically and saying "why you do this to me". She is crying, real tears streaming down face, really looking she is really in trouble, not like she simply lost a trick."Why you do this to me, just split Y2200 with me. L am a poor teacher. Only do this sometimes. Coffee shop is cheating you, not me". I paid Y470 to cover the original Y70 plus the rip-off fruit plate. I Figured I deserved the Y400 fine for being so stupid, the waiter let me walk out the door with no problem. When I left 25YO girl was still crying, the kid sitting there glumly not knowing what was going on.

I really do believe this story of 25YO'S sad life was true, and I thought she had a nice personality. I would have given her Y800. Y1000 for a night of fun. I felt bad for her when I was leaving the coffee shop because she was really was crying, and it didn't look like she was acting.

What do you guys think. Could it be she was getting scammed by the coffee shop, too? Anybody ever hear of this / experience anything similar in Shanghai?

[QUOTE=Jake64; 1184779]China experts. Please tell me what you think was going on here.

She pointed to a coffee shop (UCC coffee). Well known chain in Japan. Normal coffee shop. Legit storefront, wide open, big windows so you can see in and out. Lots of normal people drinking coffee and chatting. I was not 100% comfortable, on the lookout for what could go wrong. We got a booth, and the young girl started to sit next to me in the booth. I told both of them to sit opposite me in the booth, so that I don't get accused of anything inappropriate with a young girl. We ordered about Y70 worth of food / ice cream, about $13. It seemed like legitimate restaurant, food was OK. I didn't feel threatened at all, but certainly still had my guard up and still interested in the 25 Year old.

Then a waiter shows up with 6 shots of whiskey and a fruit plate. Red Flag. I said in a loud voice "I'm not paying for any alcohol", please bring the bill now. Bill was Y2300 ($400+). I shout again "I did not order alcohol, I will not pay this". Waiter shows me the back page of the menu. Whisky shots Y300 ($45) , fruit plate Y400 ($60). Everything else on the menu is normally priced. Beer Y15, ice cream Y18, etc. I was calm but loudly accusing them of a scam. I said I will call police he says go ahead, its right here on the menu (which it is). Waiter says "you pay me Y470 I collect the rest from the girl.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads-up on UCC (may have been a counterfeit shop though). Sounds like their little trip to the loo was when they set you up and ordered the drinks.

I've never heard of any monger having a positive outcome on Nanjing Road.......

Back in Shanghai now for a couple weeks. While here in April I called an agency I found online and they sent a girl over. About 26 yrs old, body and face a 7, but not a stunner. Her skill and attitude a 9, great GFE and she came twice, I am pretty good at knowing the difference between a real orgasm and a fake one, or so I tell myself. .

Paid her the agreed amount plus taxi fare. Before she left we exchanged cell # and QQ. We kept in touch on QQ a lot over the past few months. She quit the agency in June. I could tell from chatting on QQ she was getting clingy, developing feelings, wanting a bf etc. I explained to her gently I enjoyed my freedom and wasn't looking to get tied down in a relationship right away. Back in Shanghai now she wanted to meet me at the airport but I told her it wasn't necessary. We hooked up the next day and she came into my hotel room and she immediately started kissing, off with the clothes, lots of touching and kissing leading to a BBBJ then on with the condom and she got into cowgirl and rode me until she came to a screaming orgasm. She seemed in a hurry but it was more because she was horny and wanted to get off. I got on top and came myself. She wanted to cuddle after which is fine. We showered and to avoid any awkwardness I planned ahead and bought her a gift in the States, a couple small bottles of designer perfume. Offering her money would most likely offend her. In her mind we were beyond the provider / customer relationship. After we showered we went to dinner.

After dinner I could tell she wanted to come back to my hotel and spend the night but I really didn't want her to. I enjoy my freedom and not looking for anything serious. I sent her to her home in pudong which was a long ways from my hotel, trying to be a gentleman.

She called me the next morning and wanted to meet me after I finished my work. We met at the Cinema in Raffle's City near People's Square and saw Transformers. It wasn't too crowded, it is a huge theatre. While holding hands in the theatre I place her hand on my thigh. She moved it up to my crotch and found Mr. Winky. She took it out and went down on me! It was exilerating as this is the first time in about 8 years I have done this. I stopped her to ask what if I cum and she said to cum in her mouth. Winning. After I came I'm not sure if she swallowed and drank her beverage afterwards or if she spit it into her cup. Anyways, we kept trying to watch the show but my hand eventually made its way to her clam burger. I slid my hand under he panties and found she was extremely wet. With very little guidance I fingered her clit until she came. I could tell other patrons were giving us looks but didn't much care.

After the show she said it was getting late and she was tired and her home was so far, I reluctantly let her spend the night. We went at it again the next morning, then showered and had breakfast. She kept trying to make plans for the day or the next day but I told her I had meetings all day even late (not too far from the truth). She calls a lot and leaves texts which I try to reply without giving her the wrong impression. I will keep her around until she gets too emotionally attached or until I get bored of her. It is the common problem I have with freebies, they often want more and I have to break their hearts, but this is who I am.

Has anyone else had success turning a WG into a freebie or gf or fuck buddy? Let's not waste time arguing the validity of the term 'freebie'. Every man pays for sex, sooner or later: taking her to dinner, buying her clothes, spending time listening to all her stupid problems, etc. By freebie I just mean not trading cash for sex.

Tybao

[QUOTE=Jake64; 1184779]China experts. Please tell me what you think was going on here.

I was walking down Nanjing road east on a weekday, around 2PM, and was approached by a woman. About 25, slim figure, cute but not a knockout. Dressed average. Just like one of the professional women in our office. No brand stuff, no flash, just looked normal. She was walking around with a girl about 16, carrying bags like they had been clothes shopping. She approached me and started chatting in very good English "Very hot today, ahh. First time come Shanghai? My name Ting. You like football? Real Madrid coming to China next week". She said she was an English teacher, and that the kid was her student. The kid had rich parents in the countryside send their daughter to the city during summer to learn english. The story seemed plausable. The kid was well dressed, good manners, not too giggly, and actually did speak some English."Today hot. My name Ivy. I am 16." I knew something wasn't right, but I wanted to see where this was going.

We walked around Gap, Uniqulo, other stores looking at clothes for a couple hours. I was quite enjoying the company and the conversation. I figured she was probably for sale, which I was open for, but not ready to talk business yet, and the kid was there. After a couple hours, I was hungry and wanted to eat something. She pointed to a coffee shop (UCC coffee). Well known chain in Japan. Normal coffee shop. Legit storefront, wide open, big windows so you can see in and out. Lots of normal people drinking coffee and chatting. I was not 100% comfortable, on the lookout for what could go wrong. We got a booth, and the young girl started to sit next to me in the booth. I told both of them to sit opposite me in the booth, so that I don't get accused of anything inappropriate with a young girl. We ordered about Y70 worth of food / ice cream, about $13. It seemed like legitimate restaurant, food was OK. I didn't feel threatened at all, but certainly still had my guard up and still interested in the 25 Year old.

She had been telling me about life in Hunan. Sad stuff, mother had cancer, etc. Just setting up a sales pitch, I figured. I was interested. The two of them get up to go the bathroom, and when they come back 25YO sits down in booth next to me, kid on opposite side. Then it gets weird. She started rubbing my Johnson under the table, whispering in my ear "I want to go with you". Don't touch me here, I said, just wait, you need to get rid of the kid. No problem, she says, the kid will go home in a couple minutes.

Then a waiter shows up with 6 shots of whiskey and a fruit plate. Red Flag. I said in a loud voice "I'm not paying for any alcohol", please bring the bill now. Bill was Y2300 ($400+). I shout again "I did not order alcohol, I will not pay this". Waiter shows me the back page of the menu. Whisky shots Y300 ($45) , fruit plate Y400 ($60). Everything else on the menu is normally priced. Beer Y15, ice cream Y18, etc. I was calm but loudly accusing them of a scam. I said I will call police he says go ahead, its right here on the menu (which it is). Waiter says "you pay me Y470 I collect the rest from the girl.

25YO starts crying hysterically and saying "why you do this to me". She is crying, real tears streaming down face, really looking she is really in trouble, not like she simply lost a trick."Why you do this to me, just split Y2200 with me. L am a poor teacher. Only do this sometimes. Coffee shop is cheating you, not me". I paid Y470 to cover the original Y70 plus the rip-off fruit plate. I Figured I deserved the Y400 fine for being so stupid, the waiter let me walk out the door with no problem. When I left 25YO girl was still crying, the kid sitting there glumly not knowing what was going on.

I really do believe this story of 25YO'S sad life was true, and I thought she had a nice personality. I would have given her Y800. Y1000 for a night of fun. I felt bad for her when I was leaving the coffee shop because she was really was crying, and it didn't look like she was acting.

What do you guys think. Could it be she was getting scammed by the coffee shop, too? Anybody ever hear of this / experience anything similar in Shanghai?[/QUOTE]Jake,

You must feel like any other Laowai that just got fucked with no vaseline. Your in China dude not NYC, wait this could happen to you in NY too.

The girl and the younger one, wow these people sit around for hours thinking this shit up. I would however goto the UCC coffee shop or nearby Police station for Nanjing Lu area and tell the cops what happened.

Better luck to you next time but remember in China, your the mark. Also remember that if its TGTBT, it is so naivety should only happen once.


PC out

[QUOTE=Jake64; 1184779]China experts. Please tell me what you think was going on here.

I was walking down Nanjing road east on a weekday, around 2PM, and was approached by a woman. About 25, slim figure, cute but not a knockout. Dressed average. Just like one of the professional women in our office. No brand stuff, no flash, just looked normal. She was walking around with a girl about 16, carrying bags like they had been clothes shopping. She approached me and started chatting in very good English "Very hot today, ahh. First time come Shanghai? My name Ting. You like football? Real Madrid coming to China next week". She said she was an English teacher, and that the kid was her student. The kid had rich parents in the countryside send their daughter to the city during summer to learn english. The story seemed plausable. The kid was well dressed, good manners, not too giggly, and actually did speak some English."Today hot. My name Ivy. I am 16." I knew something wasn't right, but I wanted to see where this was going.

We walked around Gap, Uniqulo, other stores looking at clothes for a couple hours. I was quite enjoying the company and the conversation. I figured she was probably for sale, which I was open for, but not ready to talk business yet, and the kid was there. After a couple hours, I was hungry and wanted to eat something. She pointed to a coffee shop (UCC coffee). Well known chain in Japan. Normal coffee shop. Legit storefront, wide open, big windows so you can see in and out. Lots of normal people drinking coffee and chatting. I was not 100% comfortable, on the lookout for what could go wrong. We got a booth, and the young girl started to sit next to me in the booth. I told both of them to sit opposite me in the booth, so that I don't get accused of anything inappropriate with a young girl. We ordered about Y70 worth of food / ice cream, about $13. It seemed like legitimate restaurant, food was OK. I didn't feel threatened at all, but certainly still had my guard up and still interested in the 25 Year old.

She had been telling me about life in Hunan. Sad stuff, mother had cancer, etc. Just setting up a sales pitch, I figured. I was interested. The two of them get up to go the bathroom, and when they come back 25YO sits down in booth next to me, kid on opposite side. Then it gets weird. She started rubbing my Johnson under the table, whispering in my ear "I want to go with you". Don't touch me here, I said, just wait, you need to get rid of the kid. No problem, she says, the kid will go home in a couple minutes.

Then a waiter shows up with 6 shots of whiskey and a fruit plate. Red Flag. I said in a loud voice "I'm not paying for any alcohol", please bring the bill now. Bill was Y2300 ($400+). I shout again "I did not order alcohol, I will not pay this". Waiter shows me the back page of the menu. Whisky shots Y300 ($45) , fruit plate Y400 ($60). Everything else on the menu is normally priced. Beer Y15, ice cream Y18, etc. I was calm but loudly accusing them of a scam. I said I will call police he says go ahead, its right here on the menu (which it is). Waiter says "you pay me Y470 I collect the rest from the girl.

25YO starts crying hysterically and saying "why you do this to me". She is crying, real tears streaming down face, really looking she is really in trouble, not like she simply lost a trick."Why you do this to me, just split Y2200 with me. L am a poor teacher. Only do this sometimes. Coffee shop is cheating you, not me". I paid Y470 to cover the original Y70 plus the rip-off fruit plate. I Figured I deserved the Y400 fine for being so stupid, the waiter let me walk out the door with no problem. When I left 25YO girl was still crying, the kid sitting there glumly not knowing what was going on.

I really do believe this story of 25YO'S sad life was true, and I thought she had a nice personality. I would have given her Y800. Y1000 for a night of fun. I felt bad for her when I was leaving the coffee shop because she was really was crying, and it didn't look like she was acting.

What do you guys think. Could it be she was getting scammed by the coffee shop, too? Anybody ever hear of this / experience anything similar in Shanghai?[/QUOTE]Par for the course. But why pay at all? I could understand if you weer in a club with a few thugs breathing down your neck. But you were in a coffee shop with many others around. I would have just walked at and went right to the nearest police station and reported it. Oh well, consider it a cheap education.

Genuine tears? LOL!

[quote=jake64; 1184779]china experts. please tell me what you think was going on here.

i really do believe this story of 25yo's sad life was true, and i thought she had a nice personality. i would have given her y800. y1000 for a night of fun. i felt bad for her when i was leaving the coffee shop because she was really was crying, and it didn't look like she was acting.

what do you guys think. could it be she was getting scammed by the coffee shop, too? anybody ever hear of this / experience anything similar in shanghai?[/quote]a few weeks ago, i parked up on the north side of peoples square (nanjing xi lu) , opposite the radisson hotel, just enjoying watching the world go by from behind darkened windows, the gf had just popped into the hairdressers! over two hours, a very clear picture evolved of the organised mischief going on. it seemed that a gang of perhaps 20 young men and 4 women where operating out of the underground car park entrance, being directed by an older guy, perhaps 27-30 yrs old. he was spotting targets, and sending teams of 2 or 3 to intercept, exclusively foreigners as they approached the area, or left their hotels. in two hours i didn't see anyone take the bait. i was however, amazed to see a young (scandinavian looking) blond girl sit on a bench under the trees, two young men were immediately dispatched to speak her, apparently very aggressively, he then sent a very smart looking woman, laden with shopping bags, to approach from the opposite direction! she laid into the two young men, and sent them packing, then sat down with the blonde woman and started chatting! wow, smooth operators!

whilst this was going on, a doorman at the hotel adjacent the radisson tried to stop a guy parking, he, the doorman, was placing yellow markers and only allowing selected people, i assume guests, to park. the guy parked and walked off up nanjing lu. two minutes later, a motorcycle cop turned up, the doorman pointed out the offending vehicle, and the cop slapped a ticket on it, when the cop walked towards the other 3 vehicles illegally parked, the doorman simply waved him off!

the cop then rolled up to the scam team in the car park entrance, to be greeted as an old friend, it was obvious to me, that the cop was asking "hows it going? ' and they were describing the poor afternoon, but the organiser definitely pointed out the ongoing attempt to approach the young blond across the street, having a laugh with with the two guys who'd been chased away. pleased to say, the blond was not taken in, stood up, and walked into the hotel, with the young woman trying to hold her back. as the blond dissapeared, the woman with the bags simply shrugged her shoulders and rejoined the mob in the car park entrance!

difficult to believe that anyone can fall for this nonsense, my advice, pull out your camera and see them rep001ter! (mobile phone).

[QUOTE=Ixtlan; 1154617]The military vehicles have white license plates. Govt officials or 'connected' people have black plates and everyone else has blue plates. Police cars are clearly marked. You can buy infrared and NVGs at the pearl markets and fake goods markets too.

That being said, you shouldn't let anyone try and get you to go with them unless you are absolutely certain its police and they show you valid I'd which rarely happens anyways.

Given all the scams going on, its not too difficult to imagine a new one where you get shaken down by people posing as military or govt officials.

In fact, it is almost impossible that anyone from military would stop a foreigner because its not their protocol.

Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I reported some time ago, on hungry soldiers trying to sell their infra red binoculars. I've seen them again, twice in recent days;

1. Outside City Shop in Pudong, vehicle was camouflage painted, with blue registration plate. Not local, province code looked oversize, and appeared to be a letter K, slanted forward! Tried to take a photo, but they fled, just a poor shot via my wing mirror.

2. Two weeks ago, I spotted the same thing going on at a service area mid way between Tianjin and Beijing, this time only one soldier, parked outside the public toilets, offering his binoculars to people passing by, vehicle was plain green, but no registration plates!

I suspect that this is simply a company with a clever marketing ploy to sell their binoculars, who knows how many teams are operating nationwide!

[QUOTE=Tybao; 1184798]Back in Shanghai now for a couple weeks. While here in April I called an agency I found online and they sent a girl over. About 26 yrs old, body and face a 7, but not a stunner. Her skill and attitude a 9, great GFE and she came twice, I am pretty good at knowing the difference between a real orgasm and a fake one, or so I tell myself. .

Paid her the agreed amount plus taxi fare. Before she left we exchanged cell # and QQ. We kept in touch on QQ a lot over the past few months. She quit the agency in June. I could tell from chatting on QQ she was getting clingy, developing feelings, wanting a bf etc. I explained to her gently I enjoyed my freedom and wasn't looking to get tied down in a relationship right away. Back in Shanghai now she wanted to meet me at the airport but I told her it wasn't necessary. We hooked up the next day and she came into my hotel room and she immediately started kissing, off with the clothes, lots of touching and kissing leading to a BBBJ then on with the condom and she got into cowgirl and rode me until she came to a screaming orgasm. She seemed in a hurry but it was more because she was horny and wanted to get off. I got on top and came myself. She wanted to cuddle after which is fine. We showered and to avoid any awkwardness I planned ahead and bought her a gift in the States, a couple small bottles of designer perfume. Offering her money would most likely offend her. In her mind we were beyond the provider / customer relationship. After we showered we went to dinner.

After dinner I could tell she wanted to come back to my hotel and spend the night but I really didn't want her to. I enjoy my freedom and not looking for anything serious. I sent her to her home in pudong which was a long ways from my hotel, trying to be a gentleman.

She called me the next morning and wanted to meet me after I finished my work. We met at the Cinema in Raffle's City near People's Square and saw Transformers. It wasn't too crowded, it is a huge theatre. While holding hands in the theatre I place her hand on my thigh. She moved it up to my crotch and found Mr. Winky. She took it out and went down on me! It was exilerating as this is the first time in about 8 years I have done this. I stopped her to ask what if I cum and she said to cum in her mouth. Winning. After I came I'm not sure if she swallowed and drank her beverage afterwards or if she spit it into her cup. Anyways, we kept trying to watch the show but my hand eventually made its way to her clam burger. I slid my hand under he panties and found she was extremely wet. With very little guidance I fingered her clit until she came. I could tell other patrons were giving us looks but didn't much care.

After the show she said it was getting late and she was tired and her home was so far, I reluctantly let her spend the night. We went at it again the next morning, then showered and had breakfast. She kept trying to make plans for the day or the next day but I told her I had meetings all day even late (not too far from the truth). She calls a lot and leaves texts which I try to reply without giving her the wrong impression. I will keep her around until she gets too emotionally attached or until I get bored of her. It is the common problem I have with freebies, they often want more and I have to break their hearts, but this is who I am.

Has anyone else had success turning a WG into a freebie or gf or fuck buddy? Let's not waste time arguing the validity of the term 'freebie'. Every man pays for sex, sooner or later: taking her to dinner, buying her clothes, spending time listening to all her stupid problems, etc. By freebie I just mean not trading cash for sex.

Tybao[/QUOTE]Tybao,

I think your the first guy in China that has this issue with girls here. LOL not, jk.

As it goes I have dated many a Chinese hoe and they are no differant than any other hoe in the world.

We pay to play regardless of skin color.

Usually a 3-4 month afair if that. Enjoy the company and the poonani.

PC out

[QUOTE=Jake64; 1184779]China experts. Please tell me what you think was going on here.

I was walking down Nanjing road east on a weekday, around 2PM, and was approached by a woman. About 25, slim figure, cute but not a knockout. Dressed average. Just like one of the professional women in our office. No brand stuff, no flash, just looked normal. She was walking around with a girl about 16, carrying bags like they had been clothes shopping. She approached me and started chatting in very good English "Very hot today, ahh. First time come Shanghai? My name Ting. You like football? Real Madrid coming to China next week". She said she was an English teacher, and that the kid was her student. The kid had rich parents in the countryside send their daughter to the city during summer to learn english. The story seemed plausable. The kid was well dressed, good manners, not too giggly, and actually did speak some English."Today hot. My name Ivy. I am 16." I knew something wasn't right, but I wanted to see where this was going.

We walked around Gap, Uniqulo, other stores looking at clothes for a couple hours. I was quite enjoying the company and the conversation. I figured she was probably for sale, which I was open for, but not ready to talk business yet, and the kid was there. After a couple hours, I was hungry and wanted to eat something. She pointed to a coffee shop (UCC coffee). Well known chain in Japan. Normal coffee shop. Legit storefront, wide open, big windows so you can see in and out. Lots of normal people drinking coffee and chatting. I was not 100% comfortable, on the lookout for what could go wrong. We got a booth, and the young girl started to sit next to me in the booth. I told both of them to sit opposite me in the booth, so that I don't get accused of anything inappropriate with a young girl. We ordered about Y70 worth of food / ice cream, about $13. It seemed like legitimate restaurant, food was OK. I didn't feel threatened at all, but certainly still had my guard up and still interested in the 25 Year old.

She had been telling me about life in Hunan. Sad stuff, mother had cancer, etc. Just setting up a sales pitch, I figured. I was interested. The two of them get up to go the bathroom, and when they come back 25YO sits down in booth next to me, kid on opposite side. Then it gets weird. She started rubbing my Johnson under the table, whispering in my ear "I want to go with you". Don't touch me here, I said, just wait, you need to get rid of the kid. No problem, she says, the kid will go home in a couple minutes.

Then a waiter shows up with 6 shots of whiskey and a fruit plate. Red Flag. I said in a loud voice "I'm not paying for any alcohol", please bring the bill now. Bill was Y2300 ($400+). I shout again "I did not order alcohol, I will not pay this". Waiter shows me the back page of the menu. Whisky shots Y300 ($45) , fruit plate Y400 ($60). Everything else on the menu is normally priced. Beer Y15, ice cream Y18, etc. I was calm but loudly accusing them of a scam. I said I will call police he says go ahead, its right here on the menu (which it is). Waiter says "you pay me Y470 I collect the rest from the girl.

25YO starts crying hysterically and saying "why you do this to me". She is crying, real tears streaming down face, really looking she is really in trouble, not like she simply lost a trick."Why you do this to me, just split Y2200 with me. L am a poor teacher. Only do this sometimes. Coffee shop is cheating you, not me". I paid Y470 to cover the original Y70 plus the rip-off fruit plate. I Figured I deserved the Y400 fine for being so stupid, the waiter let me walk out the door with no problem. When I left 25YO girl was still crying, the kid sitting there glumly not knowing what was going on.

I really do believe this story of 25YO'S sad life was true, and I thought she had a nice personality. I would have given her Y800. Y1000 for a night of fun. I felt bad for her when I was leaving the coffee shop because she was really was crying, and it didn't look like she was acting.

What do you guys think. Could it be she was getting scammed by the coffee shop, too? Anybody ever hear of this / experience anything similar in Shanghai?[/QUOTE]This is surely a scam. I was approached three times during my stay in Shanghai, each time by pair of girls. Every time the excuse was to improve their English, students from some University and want to have Tea with me. I politely excused myself by saying I am waiting for my friends. This happened once near Yu Garden and twice near The Bund.

I feel the best way to refuse them is by saying you are waiting for a friend and they will leave you free.

[QUOTE=Jake64;1184779]China experts. Please tell me what you think was going on here.[/QUOTE]This scam has been around in China as long as I've been here (10+ years) , there are variations of it, but tea house / coffee shop of Najing Road seems to be a common theme.

Next time offer to take them to Starbucks, no problems finding one as there are a million out there. If they refuse then you know your being scammed.

As for the crying, get over it, she's just a good actor, just like the beggar kids and the broekn old man.

Your lucky you got to walk away with just 470, there have been a lot of tales of people paying thousands.

Generally Shanghai is a safe place to be, I've walked home trashed at 5am without the least worries.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Oakley08; 1184829]Par for the course. But why pay at all? I could understand if you weer in a club with a few thugs breathing down your neck. But you were in a coffee shop with many others around. I would have just walked at and went right to the nearest police station and reported it. Oh well, consider it a cheap education.

Genuine tears? LOL![/QUOTE]I had exactly the same story. In the same place. Those tears are as fake as the shit you can buy in Qipu Road. I didn't pay anything. I left when they went to toilet for the second time. And after the second round of whiskeys. Sorry life made me being such a bastard LOL.

Learn the lesson for a next time.

[QUOTE=Tybao; 1184798]Back in Shanghai now for a couple weeks. While here in April I called an agency I found online and they sent a girl over. About 26 yrs old, body and face a 7, but not a stunner. Her skill and attitude a 9, great GFE and she came twice, I am pretty good at knowing the difference between a real orgasm and a fake one, or so I tell myself. .

Paid her the agreed amount plus taxi fare. Before she left we exchanged cell # and QQ. We kept in touch on QQ a lot over the past few months. She quit the agency in June. I could tell from chatting on QQ she was getting clingy, developing feelings, wanting a bf etc. I explained to her gently I enjoyed my freedom and wasn't looking to get tied down in a relationship right away. Back in Shanghai now she wanted to meet me at the airport but I told her it wasn't necessary. We hooked up the next day and she came into my hotel room and she immediately started kissing, off with the clothes, lots of touching and kissing leading to a BBBJ then on with the condom and she got into cowgirl and rode me until she came to a screaming orgasm. She seemed in a hurry but it was more because she was horny and wanted to get off. I got on top and came myself. She wanted to cuddle after which is fine. We showered and to avoid any awkwardness I planned ahead and bought her a gift in the States, a couple small bottles of designer perfume. Offering her money would most likely offend her. In her mind we were beyond the provider / customer relationship. After we showered we went to dinner.

After dinner I could tell she wanted to come back to my hotel and spend the night but I really didn't want her to. I enjoy my freedom and not looking for anything serious. I sent her to her home in pudong which was a long ways from my hotel, trying to be a gentleman.

She called me the next morning and wanted to meet me after I finished my work. We met at the Cinema in Raffle's City near People's Square and saw Transformers. It wasn't too crowded, it is a huge theatre. While holding hands in the theatre I place her hand on my thigh. She moved it up to my crotch and found Mr. Winky. She took it out and went down on me! It was exilerating as this is the first time in about 8 years I have done this. I stopped her to ask what if I cum and she said to cum in her mouth. Winning. After I came I'm not sure if she swallowed and drank her beverage afterwards or if she spit it into her cup. Anyways, we kept trying to watch the show but my hand eventually made its way to her clam burger. I slid my hand under he panties and found she was extremely wet. With very little guidance I fingered her clit until she came. I could tell other patrons were giving us looks but didn't much care.

After the show she said it was getting late and she was tired and her home was so far, I reluctantly let her spend the night. We went at it again the next morning, then showered and had breakfast. She kept trying to make plans for the day or the next day but I told her I had meetings all day even late (not too far from the truth). She calls a lot and leaves texts which I try to reply without giving her the wrong impression. I will keep her around until she gets too emotionally attached or until I get bored of her. It is the common problem I have with freebies, they often want more and I have to break their hearts, but this is who I am.

Has anyone else had success turning a WG into a freebie or gf or fuck buddy? Let's not waste time arguing the validity of the term 'freebie'. Every man pays for sex, sooner or later: taking her to dinner, buying her clothes, spending time listening to all her stupid problems, etc. By freebie I just mean not trading cash for sex.

Tybao[/QUOTE]Congrats! You have a good situation here for the time being. I have been there myself with a couple freelancers. Looking at it from an economical / business pov, you are in a situation where you are getting much more in return than you are giving out at the moment. Its the period where they offer you incentives to suck / lock you in. In time, the incentives will go away and the costs will rise. Meaning that the erotic services will decline and she will expect more and more from you as time goes on, whether it be commitment or financial or whatever. As long as you enjoy the ride up until the point that the benefits still outweigh the cost of what you are willing to spend and bear then it should be no problem. It will be a fun ride and will provide a lot of good memories up until that threshold, wherever that may be for you.

Oak

[QUOTE=Rafis; 1185252]I had exactly the same story. In the same place. Those tears are as fake as the shit you can buy in Qipu Road. I didn't pay anything. I left when they went to toilet for the second time. And after the second round of whiskeys. Sorry life made me being such a bastard LOL.

Learn the lesson for a next time.[/QUOTE]Great points everyone, thanks. Funny thing is, I'm not a rube. I guess I wanted to see the act played out to the end, and just pay the fine for the entertainment value. I knew it was a low-level scam, that I wouldn't lose much money and was in no physical danger. Daylight, public place, legitimate storefront. Unlike the same scam in a dark nightclub with thugs and you fear for your safety (which I've also experienced).

Fuzimiao, damn, I wish I had thought of using the phone camera, that would have been hilarious. Anyway, rather than a cheap lesson, I'll prefer to call it an medium-expensive afternoon of entertainment. I did get my Johnson rubbed for about for the same costs of an evening at a strip joints in the US.

The two parts of the act I still don't get 1) what was the role of the high school kid and 2) is the actual store in cahoots, (UCC right next to east nanjing road station) or only the waiter. And I do think she was really crying. Couldn't have been that good an actress (I guess I am naive. LOL). I'm wondering if the store overcharges for the rip-off drinks and if it backfires, she still has to deal with some thugs.

Anyway. I love Shanghai, so much energy here.

Zenith Spa (Yunting) At 511 Tianmu west road 4th floor Jincheng Tower does NOT have FS. Ph# 021-63530006.

[url]http://www.zenithspa.com/en/about.html[/url]

It is located near changan road.

The place is beautiful and luxurious. I entered and was presented a menu of massages. None showing FS or full body massage or anything similar. I thought they were just being discrete so I picked the most expensive one (500RMB) assuming that had action. It had worked for me in the past but I was wrong at this place. Had a great professional massage though.

If you want an amazing legitimate luxury Spa in a clean. 5-star facility for 500 go here. They have every spa service you could imagine except any sexual services.

[QUOTE=White Dragon; 1184188]Went to heting yesterday. No massage available. Dropped in on the Nanjing markets sauna instead. Got a very nice Mongolian beauty. Elegant, pretty face, playful. Don't know her name but she has a tattoo on her shoulder and lower back. Normally don't like girls with tattoo's but she was ok. She liked speaking Japanese. The experience was half northern sister half Japanese AV girl!

BBBJ short but ok, DATY ok. She really enjoyed that, not sure about DFK. I told her not to bother with catbath and AR and she seemed very thankful and more GFE as a result. I usually refuse that routine.

Looks: 9.

Body: 7.

Breasts: 8.

Attitude: 10.

Sex: 8[/QUOTE]Can someone please I'm / PM the info for this place!

Tybao:

I have had quite a few professionals who have become gf or sex partner already. Agreed with quite a few friends' comments here: Don't worry too much about it, enjoy it while it last, but maintain good control over the relationship, which you seems to be doing already.

All girls are different, and they will be looking for different things. Some of mine were looking for some financial support occasionally (only once in a while, none of them will try to get money from me every time after we meet and have sex) , there are a couple that would never mention the topic or feel offended when I tried to offer "pocket money" to them. Among them two were the best. One girl from Hunan I found at a MP in Beijing that offered HJ. I literally dated her for about 6 mths before she agreed to have sex with me. But she has been my gf for almost 4 years now. We just meet up occasionally to spend a night together. The other one was a Fujian girl from a BBS in Shanghai where the girls would almost strip naked to do HJ and let you touch, but will not do FS. I took her out for dinner after my second visit and we then went back to my hotel and had very passionate GFE sex. She told me later that she never did that with any other customer (which I believe to be true) but she liked the feeling when I kissed and touched her during the first visit. She had a very abusive husband back home in Fujian. She never mentioned money to me and even when I offered taxi money to her, she would refuse. Unfortunately, she fell sick after she went home about 2 years ago. After a very lengthy treatment, she has never returned to Shanghai. But we still keep in touch through the occasional SMS'.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Tybao; 1184798]Back in Shanghai now for a couple weeks. While here in April I called an agency I found online and they sent a girl over. About 26 yrs old, body and face a 7, but not a stunner. Her skill and attitude a 9, great GFE and she came twice, I am pretty good at knowing the difference between a real orgasm and a fake one, or so I tell myself. .

Paid her the agreed amount plus taxi fare. Before she left we exchanged cell # and QQ. We kept in touch on QQ a lot over the past few months. She quit the agency in June. I could tell from chatting on QQ she was getting clingy, developing feelings, wanting a bf etc. I explained to her gently I enjoyed my freedom and wasn't looking to get tied down in a relationship right away. Back in Shanghai now she wanted to meet me at the airport but I told her it wasn't necessary. We hooked up the next day and she came into my hotel room and she immediately started kissing, off with the clothes, lots of touching and kissing leading to a BBBJ then on with the condom and she got into cowgirl and rode me until she came to a screaming orgasm. She seemed in a hurry but it was more because she was horny and wanted to get off. I got on top and came myself. She wanted to cuddle after which is fine. We showered and to avoid any awkwardness I planned ahead and bought her a gift in the States, a couple small bottles of designer perfume. Offering her money would most likely offend her. In her mind we were beyond the provider / customer relationship. After we showered we went to dinner.

After dinner I could tell she wanted to come back to my hotel and spend the night but I really didn't want her to. I enjoy my freedom and not looking for anything serious. I sent her to her home in pudong which was a long ways from my hotel, trying to be a gentleman.

She called me the next morning and wanted to meet me after I finished my work. We met at the Cinema in Raffle's City near People's Square and saw Transformers. It wasn't too crowded, it is a huge theatre. While holding hands in the theatre I place her hand on my thigh. She moved it up to my crotch and found Mr. Winky. She took it out and went down on me! It was exilerating as this is the first time in about 8 years I have done this. I stopped her to ask what if I cum and she said to cum in her mouth. Winning. After I came I'm not sure if she swallowed and drank her beverage afterwards or if she spit it into her cup. Anyways, we kept trying to watch the show but my hand eventually made its way to her clam burger. I slid my hand under he panties and found she was extremely wet. With very little guidance I fingered her clit until she came. I could tell other patrons were giving us looks but didn't much care.

After the show she said it was getting late and she was tired and her home was so far, I reluctantly let her spend the night. We went at it again the next morning, then showered and had breakfast. She kept trying to make plans for the day or the next day but I told her I had meetings all day even late (not too far from the truth). She calls a lot and leaves texts which I try to reply without giving her the wrong impression. I will keep her around until she gets too emotionally attached or until I get bored of her. It is the common problem I have with freebies, they often want more and I have to break their hearts, but this is who I am.

Has anyone else had success turning a WG into a freebie or gf or fuck buddy? Let's not waste time arguing the validity of the term 'freebie'. Every man pays for sex, sooner or later: taking her to dinner, buying her clothes, spending time listening to all her stupid problems, etc. By freebie I just mean not trading cash for sex.

Tybao[/QUOTE]

Has anyone been to Bodi and 999 recently?

Which has better girl selection and allows cellphone in the resting / lounge area?

I think I only have time to go to one of these places this weekend so I would like to know which one is a better choice at the moment.

[QUOTE=Rafis; 1185252]I had exactly the same story. In the same place. Those tears are as fake as the shit you can buy in Qipu Road. I didn't pay anything. I left when they went to toilet for the second time. And after the second round of whiskeys. Sorry life made me being such a bastard LOL.

Learn the lesson for a next time.[/QUOTE]This is an old scam. I am sure the girls split the money with the tea or coffee shops where the shop gets probably a lot more. I did this a couple of times, once in Beijing and once in Shanghai. Both times, I clearly told them that I was paying for my drink only, then ignored their drama at the end when we were presented with a ridiculously high bill, and just said good bye and left. Nobody called the police. I actually had a nice chat with them and learned stuff about China. Coffee and tea are overpriced there anyway. Y45 for a cup of coffee which is 3-5 times more than in the US. I think I paid Y100 for tea, but it was very good. They didn't try to sell sex.

Thanks to Dirty Jersey and his very good explanation on how to get to hailang, I did my first trip there. Got one red badged girl (I think it was 863) Very good service, and nice body as well.

Unfortunately even as it was on Sunday afternoon, it lasted only 1 hour (although I could get 2 pops, thanks to the talent of the girl I had) which for 800 I think it is a bit expensive (as far as I remember Heting is 1 hour and a half)

Frankly speaking I still miss G18, but I think I still prefer hailang to Heiting because I am a big fan of the nuru nuru bed.

Sort of a strange place. Had to check it out after some recent reviews. It was surprisingly easy to find. The spa / sauna / jacuzzi area is very nice as mentioned by others but the showering in the glass tubes with other punters while being watched by the guys working there and the guys in the jacuzzi was kind of disturbing.

Ok, the rooms are nice with the sex chair but the bed / table is narrow. I did not get a line up though the Chinese guys did and they clearly had a better selection than the one I got. They sent me a tall girl with pretty good skills. Nice rack. Late 20's maybe older.

For 750RMB, which is almost 200RMB more than the early bird rate at the place near Ba Bai Ban. Recently the girls there are been very good for me.

I lived in Shanghai a few years ago so I know some of th drill there. Had a few days recently on business and saw an old freebiefriend who obliged me one evening before my dinner (actually she used to work for me LOL) and had a visit to Peacock in Xietu Lu as I used to be as regular there. Saw a cute 19 year old from a place called Myspa near Green Villas in Pudong. So I had some fun but basically it was working trip.

However I was staying in a hotel near Peoples Square and I was harased in and around Nanjing walking street day and night.

Didn't matter if it was 9am or 9pm or midnight, endless gangs of badly dressed men offering to sell me a bag (I got noe already mate) a watch (yeah I'm wearing one) an Iphone (got two phones in my pocket mate) a girl (got one waiting in the room sonny ). At one point some guy asked what I did want. I explained that I'd like to walk around the streets and be left alone. I suggested he might want to buy my watch for RMB 50, 000! LOL. Shanghai is certainly changing but not for the better. Was a very unpleasant experience to be harassed as much as I was. Oh and various girls suggested I go take tea with them. They hated that I knew the game they played. LOL

I'm spending a few days in Shanghai later this month, staying in the Jianguo Hotel in Xuhui. My free time will be very limited. Basically only 3 days in SHA and my days will be tied up with business associates until after dinner each day.

I've read through the forum and see that 999 (or whatever its name is these days) is relatively close to my hotel. But it's a little unclear as to whether it's currently in business. I saw that it closed down for awhile but may have re-opened. Can anyone confirm that it is still open and still at the same address?

Are there any other options in or near the Jianguo Hotel? I saw another post suggesting there might be a small sauna on the 5th floor of the hotel that offers extra services, but that was only one post with very little info.

Ideally I would love to make it to Bodi, but I'm not sure I'll have time. It looks like it's quite a ways away from where I'm staying, so unless I can figure out a relatively quick and easy way to get there by public transportation I won't be able to swing it on this trip.

I would appreciate any advice.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1186201]Oh and various girls suggested I go take tea with them. They hated that I knew the game they played. LOL[/QUOTE]Next time they come up to you and after they suggest that you go take tea with them, you should tell them that you charge by the hour and before they can reply, put a business card in their hand with a list of "services" that you offer, and while they're still figuring out what the hell is going on, grab her by the hand and tell her "we're going to a tea party in my hotel room!"

[QUOTE=Dirty Jersey;1186299]Next time they come up to you and after they suggest that you go take tea with them, you should tell them that you charge by the hour and before they can reply, put a business card in their hand with a list of "services" that you offer, and while they're still figuring out what the hell is going on, grab her by the hand and tell her "we're going to a tea party in my hotel room!"[/QUOTE]Haha fantastic. I'm going to go get some cards made.

Hey all,

I'm also wondering on latest status of 999 and brodi. Are they open for business? From the board still sounds like they are best saunas to hit.

Also, what is best strategy to get a long stay? I know I can hit Manhattan but if my taste was not Filipino what else are my options? Mmmm, Russian would be nice. Note mandarin skills pretty much non-existant.

Max

[QUOTE=Dirty Jersey;1186299]Next time they come up to you and after they suggest that you go take tea with them, you should tell them that you charge by the hour and before they can reply, put a business card in their hand with a list of "services" that you offer, and while they're still figuring out what the hell is going on, grab her by the hand and tell her "we're going to a tea party in my hotel room!"[/QUOTE]I'm sure that's meant as a joke, but I would strongly advise against trying to grab anyone, these people are not alone, rent a mob would be around in seconds. That said, I always carry a small camera, but by the time I take it out of it's little pouch, these people have vanished!

Friday night going toxin tian di to meet up with a dia girl. Told her to meet at Paul's. I am at Paul's (but it is closed and name change) she txts can not find it, she at Godiva, on the other end of brick mall. So I stroll down that way. It is 7pm-got hit up by 8 WG's, some singles and two doubles, can not belive all this action at 7pm, so early

Went to Bodi yesterday around 3PM. Business was surprisingly good, very limited selection, only 7 girls were available. Definitely not impressed by the lineup, but still managed to pick 2 girls. The "fishbowl" glass has been removed, so now the girls can see and hear the customer and manager.

Talked to the girls afterwards, the weekends are different from weekdays. During weekends, customers usually come in the afternoon and leave right before dinner time.

It appears the standard session at Bodi is now 60 minutes.

Ahhh, good to be back after the summer hiatus and dry spell! I was sitting in the lounge waiting to get on the plane back to Shanghai when I get a text from a massage girl I have not seen in a while (she moved establishments). When I first met her, we started with a couple of in-house session then moved onto waimai sessions where she said I was her first laowai FS. After some back and forth chit chat texting, she offers to help me relax on my return. Says she can come over at midnight after getting off work. I tell her I will let her know when I am arrive.

I drop her a text when I arrive, she tells me to eat dinner, shower and take a rest. A bit after midnight, she shows up, gives me a nice full body massage, followed by a GFE FS for the next couple hours. She demands multiple DATY session, as she says she missed my tongue lashing. We sleep a bit and repeat in the morning. As she is heading out the door with a big smile, I drop her some taxi money. She is ever grateful.

It pays to keep in touch with your massage girls. They will always do you right.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23; 1186278]I'm spending a few days in Shanghai later this month, staying in the Jianguo Hotel in Xuhui. My free time will be very limited. Basically only 3 days in SHA and my days will be tied up with business associates until after dinner each day.

I've read through the forum and see that 999 (or whatever its name is these days) is relatively close to my hotel. But it's a little unclear as to whether it's currently in business. I saw that it closed down for awhile but may have re-opened. Can anyone confirm that it is still open and still at the same address?

Are there any other options in or near the Jianguo Hotel? I saw another post suggesting there might be a small sauna on the 5th floor of the hotel that offers extra services, but that was only one post with very little info.

Ideally I would love to make it to Bodi, but I'm not sure I'll have time. It looks like it's quite a ways away from where I'm staying, so unless I can figure out a relatively quick and easy way to get there by public transportation I won't be able to swing it on this trip.

I would appreciate any advice.[/QUOTE]After some additional research, I discovered there is a sauna called Huatian in the 5th floor of the Jianguo Hotel. Does anybody have any experiences there? I searched through the forum and didn't see any reports on it. If not, I may be inclined to TFOTT when I'm there in a couple weeks. With my limited free time it will save me searching around for a place, but I would still greatly appreciate some insight if anyone has been there.

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1186707]Ahhh, good to be back after the summer hiatus and dry spell! I was sitting in the lounge waiting to get on the plane back to Shanghai when I get a text from a massage girl I have not seen in a while (she moved establishments). When I first met her, we started with a couple of in-house session then moved onto waimai sessions where she said I was her first laowai FS. After some back and forth chit chat texting, she offers to help me relax on my return. Says she can come over at midnight after getting off work. I tell her I will let her know when I am arrive.

I drop her a text when I arrive, she tells me to eat dinner, shower and take a rest. A bit after midnight, she shows up, gives me a nice full body massage, followed by a GFE FS for the next couple hours. She demands multiple DATY session, as she says she missed my tongue lashing. We sleep a bit and repeat in the morning. As she is heading out the door with a big smile, I drop her some taxi money. She is ever grateful.

It pays to keep in touch with your massage girls. They will always do you right.[/QUOTE]Hey where does she work at?

What is her name please I'm / PM me the info!

[QUOTE=Three I; 1186936]Hey where does she work at?

What is her name please I'm / PM me the info![/QUOTE]Would like to PM you, but my CC never is accepted. So.

Yue Lan Club &35828; &28572; &29983; &27963; &39302;

Zhangyang Lu and Yuanshen Lu.

Ask for #6

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1187029]Would like to PM you, but my CC never is accepted. So.

Yue Lan Club &35828; &28572; &29983; &27963; &39302;

Zhangyang Lu and Yuanshen Lu.

Ask for #6[/QUOTE]Please email at [email]threexfromwsg@yahoo.com[/email]!

QQ is this gigantic vast internet juggernaut of randomness, they seem to be involved in every internet business in China. So how do I find these MMs on QQ? Through website or the chat program or other way? I can read decent Chinese but haven't ever found my way to where these women congregate.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=DaoYu; 1180833]Guys,

I've been checking the forums at lang520 and what I see looks promising. Loads of WGs can be found via QQ, most of them working from their homes. Prices are mostly 300 or 400. Most have pictures available. You can't of course be too sure that they're always real but there is even a special forum. For verification and reports, so I guess those can be mostly trusted. What I do see in the reports are loads of abbreviations, like:

KJ, ML, BL, MM, FW, PP, JJ, XX, SN, XL, MY, GT, RT, GG, DD, XDD, SJ.

I figured out MM stands for meimei, little sister, all WGs are called MM in the reports. I have no idea what the other abbreviations stand for, does. Anyone know this?

I've contacted one girl and asked what services she provides. She came back with this:

&26381; &21153; :&20570; &29233; &65292; &21475; &20570; , &33016; &25512; , &28459; &28216; , &20912; &28779; .69&24335; , &21475; &29190; , &40499; &40495; &28020; . &23039; &21183; &38543; &24847;

(Fuwu: Zuo'ai, kou zuo, xiong tui, manyou, bing huo. 69 shi, koubao, yuanyangyu. Zishi suiyì).

Google translate makes this of it:

Services: love, made the mouth, chest push, roaming, Addict. 69 style, mouth explosion, Yuanyang Yu. Posture random

Several here aren't immediately clear either. Any help translating these is appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ddxm88; 1187311]QQ is this gigantic vast internet juggernaut of randomness, they seem to be involved in every internet business in China. So how do I find these MMs on QQ? Through website or the chat program or other way? I can read decent Chinese but haven't ever found my way to where these women congregate.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I posted about it in the beijing forum about a year ago. Search should bring it up

I am travelling to Shanghai in a couple of weeks and am keen to find girls who will do long time that is stay overnight. Honestly I have read through the forum but most discussion seems to be about massage or barber shop places for short time. I was wondering what would be some good clubs where you could find freelance girls who would be happy to spend the night with you for between 50 to 100 English pounds or cheaper if possible.

Is taking girls off the streets safe? Or what about hotel bars?

I stayed in the Marriott hotel in Hong Qiao a few months ago for a week and there were a couple of freelancing women who hung out in the bar but they were asking over 100 English pounds for not more than 2 hours. There were also a few massage places nearby but the girls there just seem too mechanical in the way they go about their service. I prefer the more girlfriend experience that you would get from an overnight and also if I am staying in a good hotel room then why not use it?

Finally there were some girly bars but the girls there were only interested in chatting to you and getting you to buy them expensive drinks.

I can stay in any 4/5 star hotel so are there any other hotel bars where freelancing girls hang out and what would be a reasonable price for long time?

There was a post by Nobody Special about his experience at the Holiday Inn on Dong Fang Road, finding freelancers in the bar for 500rmb. Not sure if it was LT or ST. Do a forum search to see the report.

You could try Manhattans to grab a Viet girl, I am sure they would go for a multi-day package. The girlie bars will just drain your wallet. MPs will be take away ST, unless you have built a relationship with the girl and can get her on her day off. You can drag XinTianDi to find freelancers as well.

The other clubs include M2, Babyface. 88, etc. But most of these, it will be tough, as they are sit down tables usually loaded with Chivas and lots of nouveau riche Chinese.

[QUOTE=Myrrh; 1187455]I am travelling to Shanghai in a couple of weeks and am keen to find girls who will do long time that is stay overnight. Honestly I have read through the forum but most discussion seems to be about massage or barber shop places for short time. I was wondering what would be some good clubs where you could find freelance girls who would be happy to spend the night with you for between 50 to 100 English pounds or cheaper if possible.

Is taking girls off the streets safe? Or what about hotel bars?

I stayed in the Marriott hotel in Hong Qiao a few months ago for a week and there were a couple of freelancing women who hung out in the bar but they were asking over 100 English pounds for not more than 2 hours. There were also a few massage places nearby but the girls there just seem too mechanical in the way they go about their service. I prefer the more girlfriend experience that you would get from an overnight and also if I am staying in a good hotel room then why not use it?

Finally there were some girly bars but the girls there were only interested in chatting to you and getting you to buy them expensive drinks.

I can stay in any 4/5 star hotel so are there any other hotel bars where freelancing girls hang out and what would be a reasonable price for long time?[/QUOTE]

Manhattan, or everything around, zappata. But you will find there mostly non Chinese girls. You can look around xintiandi too and get approached for Chinese sensations but I've never found anything appealing there yet.

There are several websites / forums where QQ numbers for MMs can be found. Got about 40+ Shanghai only QQ numbers within a couple of days. Haven't checked them all yet (by far). Most charge 300 or 400 for their service (one time) or 800/1000 for a night.

[QUOTE=Ddxm88; 1187311]QQ is this gigantic vast internet juggernaut of randomness, they seem to be involved in every internet business in China. So how do I find these MMs on QQ? Through website or the chat program or other way? I can read decent Chinese but haven't ever found my way to where these women congregate.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Merrylin Hotel Sauna: Now Open with Fist Class Facilities and WET LAND!

It's finally reopened. Merrylin Hotel Sauna in Pudong across from the Intercontinental Hotel is back in action.

Frankly, it's first-class all the way. Facilities as good as you will find as they are similar to Riverview and Heting.

A vast new WETLAND (or Water Mill in local lingo) area is well conceived and looks great. Similar in layout to the (now closed) Golden 18 in Puxi, these WET ROOMS are just the right size. They have the WET AREA with Elevated Table, Split Bottom Chair for Leather Cheerio cleaning and maintenance, and Wall Shower for a tag team soap fest.

DRY SIDE has a big square bed, massive ceiling mirrors, (no Red Rope Bar) in-room water cooler for Fire and Ice BBBJ, automated temperature controls, and brand new carpet.

I've been checking on this place for months. It made no sense what was causing the delay. But it went on forever. On several occasions I verified the extent of the renovation by going to the forth floor on the hotel and walking down the stairs. In short, the entire third floor was gutted and rebuilt from scratch. This place has no resemblance to its old "Yea Baby" Austin Powers feel. Perhaps the only thing that is in the same place is the hot tub, which is in fact in the same physical location. But it has been completely overhauled.

Best way to describe the newly renovated place is this: It's on-par with Heting. Definitely, it's that nice. The reception area is marbled and recessed from the elevator. Locker room is to the right and is classy. Shower area is totally new, has private stalls, and great shower equipment. The changing area is further back form the shower area and is rather large.

From here you move further back on the third floor (relative to the past layout which was semi-circle) to another counter.

At this point I noticed something that caught my eye (other that the smoking hot rawhide queen at the counter) : A large STAIRCASE to the left of the counter obviously ascending to the FORTH FLOOR. What the Fuck? I pivot left and start for the staircase, but the new Hammer Commander guides me right. To the FISHBOWL!

A NEW ONE! No more painting to slowly raise, but instead a very wide and modern FISHBOWL with platform and one-way glass.

Line up had about 10 girls that were all new. The uniforms caught my eye: Fishnet Tops! By the way, at this stage of the game I had no idea of a WET LAND set up. All I knew was that there was a new staircase left, and now, a whole bunch of girls in Fishnet Tops. To be sure, at that moment it occurred to me that I had only seen Fishnet in a line up in one other place, and it was a WETLAND. So, I had a hunch, and focused on TITS gouging up against the Fishnet.

There were 5 of the girls I would have done anytime. The others I disn't really examine that closely because NOW I WAS FOCUSING ON TITS AND FISHNET. In the hope that the Motherfuckin' Merrylin had been restored as a WETLAND.

First girl in the linkup form Hunan (sorry, got to hold onto this number) was spectacular. Perfect TITS in full view through the fishnet! Really, these were specimens and if a WETLAND was in fact at hand, then this had to be it. But, four other girls were rocking the house with tits and one had the slutty librarian thing going on. I must have spent three or four minutes trying to decide.

In the end, first girl in the line up won the day. And what a fuckin' choice. She was a rare find that can only be compared to girls form 3 or 4 years ago. Perfect 34C tits, very cute face, absolutely perfect model-quality skin and teen, world class bubble-butt to kill for, and all that packed into a 100 pound package.

We ascended the stairs and to my surprise there was a hallway from here to next-year. ON THE FOURTH FLOOR. How clever! On the BACK SIDE of the fourth floor. Why? Because if you take the lobby elevator to the fourth floor, you will find the banquet room area. It has a long hallway with banquet rooms to either side, terminating an a large banquet room that holds about 100 people. But to the rear of the banquet room corridor to the rear side of the hotel's forth floor, is the newest high-end WETLAND in town.

Since I described the WET AREA above, I won't go through that again.

As for service, hey, the girls are new. Don't expect Porn Stars just yet.

As for my girl, it was her first week on the job. The room we used was brand new and had not even been used before.

She said "I'm new at this, so you'll have to help me out a little". Fucking Yea! Call me Mr. Helper! I will fucking assist you lay out the plastic sheet on the table! I will guide you through the process should you falter! And I don't mind that not seeing any Nuru Gel. Get the FUCKING SOAP! It will be just fine! (Don't even know if Nuru is available. I was interested in the COMMITTEE OF 36C TITS in the FISHNET.)

Pretty good slip and slide for a newbie with AMAZING TITS with ELEVATED the enjoyment.

We did a great shower down, move to dry area, off the charts session, great attitude, and lots of energy to boot.

Seems like the session was about 70 minutes, but I lost track of time.

Total damage was 880 RMB and a boatload of fun.

In summary, what a fuckin project. It must have cost millions to renovate the place. But it was worth it, as this place is just as nice as Heting, Bodi, or Riverview plus it has the marked advantage of LOCATION.

As with all newly opened venues, service will take time to improve. My experience was great because I hit it off with the girl and that makes up for skill deficiency. (Wish they were all deficient that way.)

I would say that if the place starts to get overrun with foreign mongers, then they might either charge a Tool Premium or find a way to cut down on the flow. Given their location, it's easy to imagine them being closed for "Renovation" on a regular basis if things get to out of hand with the massive hoards of foreigners parading to the area.

Only time will tell.

And one more thing: If you've got a Tool the size of a can of spray paint (I don't) , and your favourite movie is "A Man Called Horse" then get you some of those oversized Jimmy Hats and take them with you and ask for plenty of lube. In this way you won't scare the newbies to death, as many of them have a fear factor of foreign tools. I talked to my girl about this and she said that many of the girls had never done a laowai. So, might as well go slow, break them in, and not drive the fear factor through the roof.

Now, go forth and help develop the talent and break in this new place!

[QUOTE=DaoYu;1187541]There are several websites / forums where QQ numbers for MMs can be found. Got about 40+ Shanghai only QQ numbers within a couple of days. Haven't checked them all yet (by far). Most charge 300 or 400 for their service (one time) or 800/1000 for a night.[/QUOTE]Please give me some QQ numbers?

Thanks for all the information, it is helping me a lot I must say!

I just want to know if anybody can recommend me a place and girls where I can have a real threesome with girl on girl action. I know they usually do not do it, so I am wondering if you know anywhere I can go.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Applecrate; 1187622]Merrylin Hotel Sauna: Now Open with Fist Class Facilities and WET LAND!

It's finally reopened. Merrylin Hotel Sauna in Pudong across from the Intercontinental Hotel is back in action.[/QUOTE]Great report. I was on my way there the other day to check out the status, but had to head to HK for business and a WanChai monger session. Looking forward to being back this weekend!

[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1179927]I've been playing around for a long time in shanghai now and I am used to every sauna or areas that are well known on these board (wuzhong. Jinhui.).

I feel like me and my friends (we are all laowai) were always welcomed in every kind of places (BBS, sauna, MP) and that's pretty good. Recently, I decided to change my playground and to focus more on baoshan, hongkou and around this huge area and there is actually a lot to do over there. Business being pretty obvious and it'crazy fulfilled by everykind of leisure places. But I regret that we are not as welcome as we were in other places in town (especially BBS). Does anybody know around there and do you feel that way?

I am right now out of town for summer and will be back mid-August, if someone wants to go out and play when I am back. MP.[/QUOTE]This is my first post but I'm been reading this forum from time to time for at least 3 years. As I been living in this area north of Shanghai for the last year I will share some of my experience from there.

As I have not visited this kind of places in downtown area I have not much to compare, but as for the service I didn't feel getting any special negative treatment for being foreigner. The only thing was on the BBS places where they will ask for more money than what Chinese local men pay. They will ask for 200 or even 300 but you should be able to pay 150 that I think is standard price. If walking on Zhengli road from guoding road to Jipu road there is around 10-20 BBS, they are all on the right side of street when walking westwards.

Then there is the massages places that are spread over this area and not concentrated to any particular place. Some offer extra services, some others nothing else than massage. Can be difficult to tell by just walking outside which offer what, but usually if the girls wear no uniform they may offer some extra services, if they wear this silk shirts its probably a normal massage place. There is also the more simple massage places where there is normally dress girls sitting next to the entrance. This places use to offer simple quick massage with HJ for 50 kuai. Just go in and say 'anmo' and they will take you inside to a room.

For saunas I have seen some don't mention on this site, [url]www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/english/massage-sauna/[/url] But have no experience from it. Price should be lower that places like 999, bodi, but more simpler and less girls to choose. One that seem to be quite big, is at Quyang road beetween Zhonghuan road and Inner Ring Elevetad road, but no own experience from it.

[QUOTE=Roger9; 1188012]For saunas I have seen some don't mention on this site,

[url]www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/english/massage-sauna/[/url]

But have no experience from it. Price should be lower that places like 999, bodi, but more simpler and less girls to choose. One that seem to be quite big, is at Quyang road beetween Zhonghuan road and Inner Ring Elevetad road, but no own experience from it.[/QUOTE]I assume you are talking about Hawaii Sauna that is right across Quyang Business Center / aka Quyang Electronics Mart. I think I have been there a couple years ago, maybe around 2008. Can't quite remember the details, but since I haven't been there again I would say it probably wasn't impressive. I think the price for a single girl session was around 650ish at the time with no soapy.

Great report from Applecrate which I can verify if any verification should be needed. Exactly as described with all brand new rooms. Fishbowl and a line up of 10, very attentive service for 880. She even put a condom on my big toe and had me put that in her pussy, that was a new one on me! Thorough ass clean and tonguing too, good job.

I was in a rush and left at the 65 min stage so don't know what the time should be. Recommend.

Been lurking for a while. Thanks to all for the MP reports like.

[url=http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1170317&viewfull=1#post1170317]Wanhangdu Rd[/url]

And.

[url=http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1123791&viewfull=1#post1123791]Beijing Rd[/url]

Found a place in Pudong with topless and bottomless on the menu. A sexy spinner there who does a great GFE HJ proposed waimai zouai (zai zheli zouai bu keneng) but I don't want to take her to my place. Never gotten takeout before so tips + a lead on an appropriate hotel in the Longyang / Jinqiao area would be great. Forums are short on that info.

Where is that?

[QUOTE=Porky9; 1188313]Been lurking for a while. Thanks to all for the MP reports like.

[url=http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1170317&viewfull=1#post1170317]Wanhangdu Rd[/url]

And.

[url=http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1123791&viewfull=1#post1123791]Beijing Rd[/url]

Found a place in Pudong with topless and bottomless on the menu. A sexy spinner there who does a great GFE HJ proposed waimai zouai (zai zheli zouai bu keneng) but I don't want to take her to my place. Never gotten takeout before so tips + a lead on an appropriate hotel in the Longyang / Jinqiao area would be great. Forums are short on that info.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joe Banana; 1188308]Great report from Applecrate which I can verify if any verification should be needed. Exactly as described with all brand new rooms. Fishbowl and a line up of 10, very attentive service for 880. She even put a condom on my big toe and had me put that in her pussy, that was a new one on me! Thorough ass clean and tonguing too, good job.

I was in a rush and left at the 65 min stage so don't know what the time should be. Recommend.[/QUOTE]Does Merrylin take credit cards?

Went to 999 Jiu Yuan. 999 Tianyaoqiao Lu – Xujiahui for the first time. I gave the taxi the address in Putonghua, &22825; &38053; &26725; &36335; 999&21495; , however once we got to Tianyaoqiao the driver asked me for the phone number of the place, which I did not have, saying he could not find it. I ended up finding the sauna for him! It is not a bright lit place but not hard to find.

Once in the lobby security and the lady at the counter spoke some English, he told me the fee is RMB800 and I can pay with a credit card. I asked about Red rope, which I read somewhere is "Hong Sheng" and they appeared to have no idea what I was talking about, maybe someone can post the Chinese characters for another time. After changing and leaving my clothes and phone in a locker, I was led to a transparent 2-way glass window behind a curtain, where a dozen girls were standing and picked one with larger breasts. She led me along some corridors to a room with a shower and spoke some English as well, which was nice. Gave me her Chinese name, which I could not possibly remember, and said she has been working at 999 for 1 year. She undressed me and showered me, then had me lay on a mattress for a soapy after suggesting 2 girls, which I did not want. Back to the room she performed a tongue bath with hot water, anal rimming, and a quick BBBJ. Onwards to the action she started moaning in pain as soon as I tried to enter her, saying I was too big (I am normal size as far as I can tell, not a porno actor). During repeated attempts she suggested HJ, which I declined and since nothing else seemed possible I signaled BBBJCIM, which she agreed to and was very nice. She did complain (lightly) after the fact that her mouth hurt! I know I could have made a fuss and called the manager but she was a nice girl so I just went with the flow. However everything was done in 45 minutes, from the moment I entered the room until I left, including a post-act shower, I thought was kind of short. In summary the place is OK, the service is fine and as a foreigner with zero knowledge of the language I could be understood (other than for the famous red rope) , but short of my expectations in terms of the girl not being able to perform and the relatively short time. I asked her what time she finished work and she said 2AM, it was 2:20AM so perhaps she was in a hurry to get home.

Earlier in the night at the Hilton I saw mongers come in with beautiful and eleganty dressed Chinese girls, wish I could have asked where they picked them up since I read the bars across the street are a rip-off. When I walked back in at 3AM a young and rather pretty girl was chatting the security guard at the front desk. We were the only 3 people in the lobby, she watched me walk towards the elevator and gave me a look that said she was immediately available. I decided to ignore it and call it a night, but the thought was interesting.

I paid cash but did ask if they took CC and they do.

[QUOTE=Joe Banana;1188776]I paid cash but did ask if they took CC and they do.[/QUOTE]Thanks, some of these saunas only take cash. Like Heting

[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1188342]Where is that?[/QUOTE]This MP is far out but is my current favorite. You go in and there are 4-5 girls sitting on couches. They all wear a blue uniform with a loose top and short skirt. Most are small and skinny. Menu is simple but there are undocumented packages. Just ask for 1 hour oil massage and they will take you to the room. The place is clean and the showers are tiled and decent. One room has a topless westerner in a picture on the wall so you know what kind of place it is. They speak no English except for "massage" but the process is the same as every other MP.

Normal 1 hour oil massage is around 200 but the first time I was there, my hands roamed during the back massage and the girl asked if I wanted breast massage for 338. After doing the oil on my back and legs & rubbing my balls and ass, she disappeared for a minute and came back with powder. She sprinkled the powder on my back and legs, then pulled her top over her head and used her small breasts to rub the powder on my legs back while doing some fake moans. Then she climbed on top of me and snuggled up while moaning in my ear while my hands played with her ass.

Then she turned me over on my back, powdered my chest, and did the same rubbing with her breasts and moaning while I lifted her skirt and played with her panties, moaning a lot when rubbing her clit. She wouldn't let me remove her panties but roaming was fine. Then she climbed aboard and laid on me while moaning in my ear and sucking on my nipples while I played with her ass.

She left her top up and stroked HJ for a while. Finally, she went to my feet, got her legs under my legs so my hips were up in the air, put my cock between her tits, and gave nice Russian to the end.

Whenever I go back, I just ask for 338 from mamasan and every girl does it. Some have similar enthusiasm as the first and some are less enthusiastic about being touched. They each finish differently so you may have to ask if you want Russian.

Last time I was there, I repeated with a particularly enthusiastic girl and she offered to do the powder massage bottomless for 458. This time, after I flipped over, she stripped off her panties. I obliged with FIV and DATY. Plenty of DFK. This is the one who wants to go somewhere for zouai.

So potentially 458 is also a standard offering but you might want to start with 338 and see if the girl is into it before asking if 458 is available.

It's in the Zhangjiang area. Look on google maps for "Guanglan Road & ziwei Road". South of that intersection there is a curve in Guanglan Road. On the South side of the curve there are two buildings with shops. The right side building has an internet cafe on the corner and a big sign for a massage spa on the 3rd floor and an elevator that goes to that spa. I've not been in that spa. To the right of the elevator is another doorway with a massage place with stairs leading up. There is normally a girl in a blue top and blue skirt standing just inside the glass door. Go in there.

The previous reports of Merry Lin are correct. This is easily the nicest place in town now. Love it. The price difference between this and Sacrosa may actually be worth it.

Picked 877 from the fishbowl. Spectacular set of breast and a lovely round bottom. An amazing beauty.

Unfortunately she won't let you touch (no fingers or anything else) her below the waist. She only does CBJ then normal covered intercourse.

Add to this that her mei mei is the size of the Yan An tunnel and it was a less than spectacular experience.

I can gladly recommend the place but cannot recommend 877, as lovely as she may appear.

I know this hotel and often stay at Purple Mountain or The IC. Where us the enterence to their Sauna? Ib the actual hotel or at the back?

[QUOTE=Fritobugger; 1188864]The previous reports of Merry Lin are correct. This is easily the nicest place in town now. Love it. The price difference between this and Sacrosa may actually be worth it.

[QUOTE=Chuckle One;1188912]I know this hotel and often stay at Purple Mountain or The IC. Where us the enterence to their Sauna? Ib the actual hotel or at the back[/QUOTE]Enter through the hotel, right up the lift to the third floor.

Took one for the team today.

This 'Spa' is located on Jinxiang road (next to the Regal Jinfeng Hotel) , in a cluster of restaurants. 1/2 block away from GM Pudong. I say 'Spa' because although that's what the sign outside says, it's actually a MP. When you walk in, the girls are sitting on a sofa, and just above and to the right there is a menu on the wall so if you don't speak Mandarin, simply point (it's in English, but not much explanation of the difference between courses) and you're off upstairs (leave your shoes at the foot of the stairs).

The rooms are ok, relatively clean with individual aircon and shower. I went at 1400 today, no customers and only two girls working.

I had a young, countryside looking girl, she was pretty and cute. Took shower, donned the requisite blue dispo shorts, and hit the table. She takes my towel and covers the window in the door (a good sign I thought). Massage was good, she was fairly strong. After 30 mins, she pushes the table against the door (now I'm thinking this is a VERY good sign) and begins playing with my bottom and didi a little, then signals for the flip. Motions to didi and wants to give me HE. No offense to anyone, but I really can't see paying someone to jack me off. So I motioned to her pussy and she said no. I said ok, and laid back down on my stomach.

She continued the massage (with no loss of interest I'm happy to say) , then flipped me later, asked again (I still said no) and proceeded to massage my chest, stomach, legs.

When time was up, took another shower and when she returned to clean up the room I tipped her RMB100 (she was really nice about everything) , which she appeared very surprised and appreciative of (hugs & kisses).

Went back downstairs paid and left.

Damage RMB268 (oil. 90 mins).

RTF. No, I'm more interested in a massage + FS. As always YMMV (I don't know whether no FS is house policy or she just doesn't offer).

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1189195]Took one for the team today.

This 'Spa' is located on Jinxiang road (next to the Regal Jinfeng Hotel) , in a cluster of restaurants. 1/2 block away from GM Pudong. I say 'Spa' because although that's what the sign outside says, it's actually a MP. When you walk in, the girls are sitting on a sofa, and just above and to the right there is a menu on the wall so if you don't speak Mandarin, simply point (it's in English, but not much explanation of the difference between courses) and you're off upstairs (leave your shoes at the foot of the stairs).

The rooms are ok, relatively clean with individual aircon and shower. I went at 1400 today, no customers and only two girls working.

I had a young, countryside looking girl, she was pretty and cute. Took shower, donned the requisite blue dispo shorts, and hit the table. She takes my towel and covers the window in the door (a good sign I thought). Massage was good, she was fairly strong. After 30 mins, she pushes the table against the door (now I'm thinking this is a VERY good sign) and begins playing with my bottom and didi a little, then signals for the flip. Motions to didi and wants to give me HE. No offense to anyone, but I really can't see paying someone to jack me off. So I motioned to her pussy and she said no. I said ok, and laid back down on my stomach.

She continued the massage (with no loss of interest I'm happy to say) , then flipped me later, asked again (I still said no) and proceeded to massage my chest, stomach, legs.

When time was up, took another shower and when she returned to clean up the room I tipped her RMB100 (she was really nice about everything) , which she appeared very surprised and appreciative of (hugs & kisses).

Went back downstairs paid and left.

Damage RMB268 (oil. 90 mins).

RTF. No, I'm more interested in a massage + FS. As always YMMV (I don't know whether no FS is house policy or she just doesn't offer).[/QUOTE]I think at one time this place was an over priced soapy.

[QUOTE=ShangHangin;1189076]Enter through the hotel, right up the lift to the third floor.[/QUOTE]Looking at the left hotel there seems to be another MP entrance, ground floor, street entry, just behind the corner / angle of the hotel front.

Does anyone know if that another MP or is it related to the main event through another lift?

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1189227]Looking at the left hotel there seems to be another MP entrance, ground floor, street entry, just behind the corner / angle of the hotel front.

Does anyone know if that another MP or is it related to the main event through another lift?[/QUOTE]Dunno, but I've always just walked in the Merry Lin lobby and went up from there.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1189204]I think at one time this place was an over priced soapy.[/QUOTE]Yea, now it's an over priced MP....

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1189227]Looking at the left hotel there seems to be another MP entrance, ground floor, street entry, just behind the corner / angle of the hotel front.

Does anyone know if that another MP or is it related to the main event through another lift?[/QUOTE]That entrance used to be a legit barbershop, not sure if it is still around anymore.

Hi,

In a couple of days I'll be doing some business from the Crowne Plaza Pudong hotel. Is there any interesting Massage Parlour around at walking distance?

Thanks,

Metrio

[QUOTE=Metrio; 1189380]Hi,

In a couple of days I'll be doing some business from the Crowne Plaza Pudong hotel. Is there any interesting Massage Parlour around at walking distance?

Thanks,

Metrio[/QUOTE]Which Crowne Plaza? YangGaoLu near Waigaoqiao, or MinShengLu near Century Park? If the latter, you can walk over by Thumb Plaza across from the Raddison, there are a few on YingChunLu. Can't speak to the quality of service. If the former, you are way out, so jump a cab and go to some of the places mentioned in forum.

[QUOTE=Metrio; 1189380]Hi,

In a couple of days I'll be doing some business from the Crowne Plaza Pudong hotel. Is there any interesting Massage Parlour around at walking distance?

Thanks,

Metrio[/QUOTE]If you are at Crowne Plaza Pudong then you are way out of the downtown area near the Waigaoqiao free trade zone. No idea if there is anything other than local BBS places.

If you are at Crowne Plaza Century Park (which is in Pudong also) then you are fairly near some BBS places on the other side of the park or a short taxi ride from Bodi and Dream Spa plus all the other usually Pudong action.

Hi everyone,

I'll be soon in Shanghai for a short stay. Apparently hard to find a reliable outcall service there. Could anyone advise on a good MP or BBS nearby the Sofitel Hyland (Nanjing road, near People square)? I RTFF but couldn't find any info. I've once tried a MP in the vincinity but 368 RMB for an average 60mn massage and no HE! Don't want to experience that again.

Feel free to PM.

Thanks.

Charly

[QUOTE=Charly 2144; 1189556]Hi everyone,

I'll be soon in Shanghai for a short stay. Apparently hard to find a reliable outcall service there. Could anyone advise on a good MP or BBS nearby the Sofitel Hyland (Nanjing road, near People square)? I RTFF but couldn't find any info. I've once tried a MP in the vincinity but 368 RMB for an average 60mn massage and no HE! Don't want to experience that again.

Feel free to PM.

Thanks.

Charly[/QUOTE]Whatever you do Charly, do not touch the maid!

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao;1189570]Whatever you do Charly, do not touch the maid![/QUOTE]I swear! And that's why I need some goods advices from you guys.

Thanks

Went there this evening but the guys downstairs said they were not open for business at all and turned me away. Does anyone know why? Is there a crackdown in town?

Salaryman

[QUOTE=Salaryman; 1189655]Went there this evening but the guys downstairs said they were not open for business at all and turned me away. Does anyone know why? Is there a crackdown in town?

Salaryman[/QUOTE]In my Pudong neighborhood all the DVD folks and other street vendors are gone plus the street car wash places are gone so it might be a general crackdown.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1189743]In my Pudong neighborhood all the DVD folks and other street vendors are gone plus the street car wash places are gone so it might be a general crackdown.[/QUOTE]Notice local place in Wuyi Lu was closed last night as well when I went past. Normally a crackdwon like this occurs when there's something prestigious coming to town. Anyone know of anything?

Nice setup as described, not so easy to find as not on main street but behind the real building, bell captain not helpful asked for foreigner friendly. Answer all are loving service laowei so ended up with 907 and I think 957, both absolutely to be avoided, especially the latter, lazy, non GFE, no DATY, no fingering, lousy mechanical service and constant complaining about size. A real turn off!

Never again that place.

FA

As described, brand new place, brand new girls and absolutely foreign friendly! Just a word of warning, the girls are well trained but new to this so you must find the right balance between guiding them a little but respect their shyness. Just see applecrates great and the post on 877 not so great experience. I had a wonderful time but no lineup nor fishnettops but I had a direct request which was very rewarded!

Price is steep, no afternoon discount but if you pick the right girl it is worth the while and so convenient located!

Fa

Have done sone research here, Bodi and Merrylinn both sound good.

Due to short visit want to make most of my time so plan on lots of doubles.

What places are double friendly? And foreigner friendly. Money not an issue but don't want to get cheated.

Am staying at Holiday Inn Downtown. Anything else near there should I need to stretch my legs?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso; 1189768]As described, brand new place, brand new girls and absolutely foreign friendly! Just a word of warning, the girls are well trained but new to this so you must find the right balance between guiding them a little but respect their shyness. Just see applecrates great and the post on 877 not so great experience. I had a wonderful time but no lineup nor fishnettops but I had a direct request which was very rewarded!

Price is steep, no afternoon discount but if you pick the right girl it is worth the while and so convenient located!

Fa[/QUOTE]Having just re-read Applecrate's post, it seems that this was the same girl. 877 also claimed to be from Hunan.

I would add that her attitude was good and she gave a great CBJ but the "no touching the bits" thing is a problem.

Grabbed a mid-day massage on ZhangYangLu behind DongMing Plaza (Everbright Bank). There are two places side in the same set back building and having previously tried the one upstairs, I gave the ground floor place a go. (Entry on the right side with sign for "massage spa" in English, plus Korean and Chinese). Pretty much standard fare. Place was clean, shower in room. 200 / hour for an oil massage. Picked a cute little spinner from Hainan. Good massage, HJ HE. Girls have a good attitude for roaming hands. My spinner was on the rag, so did not find the true in-house boundaries.

I have had FS in the upstairs place, but that place is pretty dingy.

Just add 'them to the collection of options available in Pudong.

[QUOTE=ShLax;1189756]Notice local place in Wuyi Lu was closed last night as well when I went past. Normally a crackdwon like this occurs when there's something prestigious coming to town. Anyone know of anything?[/QUOTE]Haven't heard of anything in particular. Did notice today that even the street food vendors out in the hinterlands where I live have disappeared.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1189906]Haven't heard of anything in particular. Did notice today that even the street food vendors out in the hinterlands where I live have disappeared.[/QUOTE]I have heard two things: 1) there is some sort of city / district cleanliness. Beauty competition going on. ; and 2: there is a local "election" going on or coming up.

Both could be completely unrelated too.

Hi all,

Just starting out here :) Zing! Well, I've done the craigslist thing a couple of times for outcall. Found one that wasn't bad, the rest as been, eh, well you know : | Been to the local bars and have met tons of hotties, but never ordered out.

So, the reason I have come out of lurking is to ask about these QQ girls. Got a list I want to start working on, But I thought I might ask if the risk is worth the reward. I. E. Do they do the same bait-&-switch routine as CL etc.

Thanks guys.

PS I just moved over to Zhangjiang area, I hope to find and report all the goodies I find.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger; 1190132]I have heard two things: 1) there is some sort of city / district cleanliness. Beauty competition going on. ; and 2: there is a local "election" going on or coming up.

Both could be completely unrelated too.[/QUOTE]Swung through Jintai Road at 1500 today, all venues in full operation.

Guys,

One of our haunts in Laoshan Lu has reopened tonight after a grand refurbishment. Unfortunately the menu card is only in Chinese.

Can anyone help with a "decent" translation.

I've posted it as a photo, as Chinese characters seem to be a problem at present.

The new Laoban Niang will be very grateful.

Fz

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao;1190340]Can anyone help with a "decent" translation.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Fuzimiao;1190340]The new Laoban Niang will be very grateful.[/QUOTE]1. Taiwanese Style Acupressure Massage.

2. European Style Oil Massage.

3. Crystal Love Massage (Oil Massage)

4. Kidney Maintenance Oil Massage.

5. Spa Cleansing Treatment

6. Two Girls and You Massage.

7. Chinese Medicine Foot Bath.

8. Imperial Japanese Foot Bath.

9. Kidney Maintenance Foot Bath.

If these work for her, tell her she owes me a free session or two next time I'm in town. Haha

After the buzz here about Merrylin reopening, I figured I have to check it out. So off I went yesterday. Location is easy to find from Google maps, just search for Merrylin Hotel.

In to the lobby elevator to the 4 floor (actually went to #3 first, one of the Chinese guys told me what I was looking for was to be found in the 4th floor.

As described facilities brand new, but the most important part was that the selection I had was poor-average. Was there yesterday at arround 4PM, so should not be busy time?

7-8 girls in the line-up, and not one which was a 7 or above lookwise, in my book. Not sure if they have a special line-up for foreigners? Maybe the hottest ones prefer Chinese clients?

Anyhow, number 827 was wearing fishnet-top, and her boobs were awsome looking, so figured the body-to-body massage would be good. She was also recommended by manager:

827 (from Chongqing?)

Face: 4 (big nose, a little poor skin)

Boobs: 8 (fake, but looked / felt good)

Ass: 7.

Overall body: 5 (short and a little chubby)

Attitude: 8.

Action: 6.

So to sum it up. OK experience, but for 880 kuai I prefer Bodi handsdown, since the selection is way hotter, and I have one or two girls I like there (and more I want to try.

Location is more convienient at Merrylin though, but still a bit of a ride from Puxi for me.

YMMV.

Well, expect to spend a lot of time going through the list. Most of them are going to be fake but few gem. Good luck!

[QUOTE=LaoWaiSha; 1190206]Hi all,

Just starting out here. Zing! Well, I've done the craigslist thing a couple of times for outcall. Found one that wasn't bad, the rest as been, eh, well you know : | Been to the local bars and have met tons of hotties, but never ordered out.

So, the reason I have come out of lurking is to ask about these QQ girls. Got a list I want to start working on, But I thought I might ask if the risk is worth the reward. I. E. Do they do the same bait-&-switch routine as CL etc.

Thanks guys.

PS I just moved over to Zhangjiang area, I hope to find and report all the goodies I find.[/QUOTE]

Try to grab their numbers from online forums like [

[url]http://www.qianpad.com/?fromuid=322956[/url]

] or [

[url]http://www.lang521.com/?fromuid=10113[/url]

]. Most of them are fake pictures and bad services. However, if you are willing to invest time, you can find a few gems. I have been seeing one I found a while back. Good GEF service in her apartment. The experience is very different from sauna or BBS. Again, one needs to invest time to find the good ones. I walked away from a few visit upon opening the door. Fake picture or bad attitude.

[QUOTE=Ddxm88; 1187311]QQ is this gigantic vast internet juggernaut of randomness, they seem to be involved in every internet business in China. So how do I find these MMs on QQ? Through website or the chat program or other way? I can read decent Chinese but haven't ever found my way to where these women congregate.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Thank you for the reply Jman!

Yeah, well I guess I have to expect there to be fakes out there, it is China : | I have a list of addresses ready to go to, so I will be out doing the rounds. I'm kind of partial to the slutty looking ones with tattoos instead of the cutie Hello-kitty girls (IMO more likely to be fake).

Never had the experience of BBSs or Saunas (yet) BBSs might be more my style as I'm not really into massages.

What would be cool is to get a time-share er-nai. Ha!

[QUOTE=Dirty Jersey;1190374]If these work for her, tell her she owes me a free session or two next time I'm in town. Haha[/QUOTE]Thanks DJ the lady is extremely pleased, you have a deal!

Details per PM.

Fz

Anyone that can give some good recommendations for FS places near People Square / park?

Or good massage places with HE or more?

Staying at Radisson.

[QUOTE=LaoWaiSha; 1190554]Thank you for the reply Jman!

Yeah, well I guess I have to expect there to be fakes out there, it is China : | I have a list of addresses ready to go to, so I will be out doing the rounds. I'm kind of partial to the slutty looking ones with tattoos instead of the cutie Hello-kitty girls (IMO more likely to be fake).

Never had the experience of BBSs or Saunas (yet) BBSs might be more my style as I'm not really into massages.

What would be cool is to get a time-share er-nai. Ha![/QUOTE]Oh, you can get massage at a sauna? LOL!

[QUOTE=Guten2X; 1190742]Anyone that can give some good recommendations for FS places near People Square / park?

Or good massage places with HE or more?

Staying at Radisson.[/QUOTE]This area is so thick with Scammers, you would be well advised to read through this forum, and invest a few cents in a taxi ride!

Last month, I was at Marriott Puxi. Everytime I went back to the hotel at night, there were two girls looking for action with there was papasan soliciting for them. They are there all the time at the sidewalk where the driveway for the hotel begins. If you walk down the driveway, papasan will ask if you want a spa girl. At the time, I could not partake in the fun because it was too risky for me to get caught. I am just carious if anyone have tried them, the cost, location of their service and if it is any good? If anything, you will know were there is some action. I think the hotel staff knows these girls so I do not think you can take them to your room. Be safe, Ramher

[QUOTE=Guten2X; 1190742]Anyone that can give some good recommendations for FS places near People Square / park?

Or good massage places with HE or more?

Staying at Radisson.[/QUOTE]Definitely the LAST place I would choose to monger. Anything you find which -isn't- a ripoff will probably be expensive.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1190820]Oh, you can get massage at a sauna? LOL![/QUOTE]You can actually, and I'm not being sarcastic.

Most of the FS saunas will have a very brief massage session. Some places like Heting, gives it to you after your "workout". The lady is supposed to bring in hot towels and massage your legs. Other places have it as part of the soapy / cat bath. Quality and length of the massage depends on the individual "masseuse".

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao;1190846]This area is so thick with Scammers, you would be well advised to read through this forum, and invest a few cents in a taxi ride![/QUOTE]I would tend to agree and usually I ignore anyone that approaches me whether its the tout or the lady that pretends she wants to learn English and take you to a tea house. However, one night last week I was in that area and whilst walking to the subway station was approached by one of those gals. She was actually pretty attractive so I paused for a second, which motivated her I guess thinking she had lured one in. And maybe she did / has. We talked for a few minutes and she did ask me to go to a KTV with her and of course I said no but not because I wasn't interested in her, just that I wasn't interested in a KTV as I was on my way home, but she would be welcome to come to my house with me. Surprisingly, she agreed so off we went. I made her take the subway too so she wouldn't think I was 100% ATM.

We ended up back at my place and she gave me a lame HE massage but I only gave her 300rmb. She sms'd a few times since and she came over of her own volition yesterday and spent 4 hours with me just hanging out; no sex, but no money (or gifts) asked for or given either. However, I was so horny from hanging out with her but her not putting out that as soon as she left I rushed off to Bodi.

Requested one of my favourites. 575, but was disappointingly surprised when I go to the elevator that my 575 had been replaced with a new 575. Decided to just go with it even though she wasn't really one of my types. Service and massage were ok but since little chemistry I wouldn't recommend her. She was unshaved as are most but this girls Bush was huge, and that also didn't do alot for me. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1190256]Swung through Jintai Road at 1500 today, all venues in full operation.[/QUOTE]Hey M921.

So did you stop at any of the venues or any comments on any one of them. I'm always interested to hear someone else's experience at these places.

[QUOTE=Ronin500; 1191266]Hey M921.

So did you stop at any of the venues or any comments on any one of them. I'm always interested to hear someone else's experience at these places.[/QUOTE]Actually, I stopped in at the other street a block over near the bridge (previously posted) as I wanted something a little older. In short, it was a pretty bad decision, constant up selling to the point where I became disgusted and walked out.

MP in Weifang lu cross pudong Lu and its on LHS called SPA something. Been there twice firt time massage and titty fuck 280. The girl was a little tubby but did a good job. 2nd time younger hottie paid 168 for oil massage and CBJ was 200 I think she wanted 300 for BBBJ allowed loads of roaming and fake moans with finger up the arse. The regular non oil massage is 88 for an hour. So you can get a CBJ and massage 288 Place is nice ad clean with shower facilities.

Went yesterday, hard to find but niceplace. 25-30 girls young and nice.

Quality is not top level (around 7) but they are very GFE.

After you spend your time with a girl telephone ring and somebody ask you if it's "OK" or not.

That means that they check customer satisfaction!

I wil come back!

[QUOTE=Huangdipingxian; 1191460]Went yesterday, hard to find but niceplace. 25-30 girls young and nice.

Quality is not top level (around 7) but they are very GFE.

After you spend your time with a girl telephone ring and somebody ask you if it's "OK" or not.

That means that they check customer satisfaction!

I wil come back![/QUOTE]The phone call is supposedly part of the SOP.

If you really want to complain, chances are you wouldn't do that in front of the girl unless you are really pissed.

And if you don't speak Chinese or you are a foreigner, usually the telephone confirmation will be skipped.

In this market, there are a lot of fake / bail-and-switch anywhere in the world. We should start building up a good list of QQ girls. Good ones are hard to come by but good gems provide totally different experience then BBS or Sauna.

Haha, time share er-nai, that's an interesting idea.

[QUOTE=LaoWaiSha; 1190554]Thank you for the reply Jman!

Yeah, well I guess I have to expect there to be fakes out there, it is China : | I have a list of addresses ready to go to, so I will be out doing the rounds. I'm kind of partial to the slutty looking ones with tattoos instead of the cutie Hello-kitty girls (IMO more likely to be fake).

Never had the experience of BBSs or Saunas (yet) BBSs might be more my style as I'm not really into massages.

What would be cool is to get a time-share er-nai. Ha![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=George North;1191442]MP in Weifang lu cross pudong Lu and its on LHS called SPA something. Been there twice firt time massage and titty fuck 280. The girl was a little tubby but did a good job. 2nd time younger hottie paid 168 for oil massage and CBJ was 200 I think she wanted 300 for BBBJ allowed loads of roaming and fake moans with finger up the arse. The regular non oil massage is 88 for an hour. So you can get a CBJ and massage 288 Place is nice ad clean with shower facilities.[/QUOTE]Is this next door to the expat grocery store? Two weeks ago a gorgeous animal tried to tempt me out of the store. Not sure what the GF said, but the lady got the message!

[QUOTE=Ice Dragon;1191598]Is this next door to the expat grocery store? Two weeks ago a gorgeous animal tried to tempt me out of the store. Not sure what the GF said, but the lady got the message![/QUOTE]didn't notice the grocery store but you cnt miss this place its the only one in the block. I thik it advertises European Massage as spa. I think there are only 4 girls working there 2 young hotties who sit on the RHS as you go in. They are open very late as well it was open at 4. 30 am on sat night.

Could somebody please explain me what this numbers means?

I saw in so many post but I don't understand.

Thanks for helping me!

She came back with this:

&26381; &21153; :&20570; &29233; &65292; &21475; &20570; , &33016; &25512; , &28459; &28216; , &20912; &28779; .69&24335; , &21475; &29190; , &40499; &40495; &28020; . &23039; &21183; &38543; &24847;

(Fuwu: Zuo'ai, kou zuo, xiong tui, manyou, bing huo. 69 shi, koubao, yuanyangyu. Zishi suiyì).

Google translate makes this of it:

Services: love, made the mouth, chest push, roaming, Addict. 69 style, mouth explosion, Yuanyang Yu. Posture random

Several here aren't immediately clear either. Any help translating these is appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DaoYu;1177677]Cypress is also charging 880 now.[/QUOTE]The same "Entertainment Company" owns and operates the Sauna Wetlands at Bodi Botique Hotel (1245 Longyang Road, Pudong) , Cypress Hotel (2419 Hongqiao Road, Puxi) and the newly renovated Merrylin Hotel (818 Zhangyang Road, Pudong).

This is why RMB 880 seems to be the standard rate.

Links for reference.

Bodi.

[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g308272-d1440316-Reviews-Bodi_Boutique_Hotel-Shanghai.html[/url]

Cypress.

[url]http://www.cypresshotelshanghai.cn/[/url]

Merrylin.

[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g308272-d472386-Reviews-Changhang_Merrylin_Hotel_Shanghai-Shanghai.html[/url]

I was told by a long-time (big-breasted & experienced) employee of the "Entertainment Company" that Cypress is the busiest of the three, Bodi second, and the newly renovated Merrylin, third. She currently works at Merrylin, but previously worked at Cypress. She works 6 months on, and 6 months off (returns home to Dalian). Historically, she has made between RMB 25, 000 to RMB 35, 000 per month. Her cut of the current RMB 880 at Merrylin is RMB 350.

So I have done all the easy options in Shanghai, Bodi, Sacrosa, Manhatten etc, so I figured it was time for some true frontier mongering.

Armed with nothing more than Google translater I hit the QQ and Lang520. Com forum, in search of apartment girls.

Lang520. Com is all in Chinese, patience and determination is required if you don't speak and read the language. Like me.

On Lang520. Com there are hundreds of "Beauty Wolfs" advertising with "Coyotee" verifications. The services offered include amoungst other things,"Mouth Explosions","Big Chest Heave","Affection Sister Love (eww!) and my personal favourite "Big Russian Cartwheel".

I contacted about 40, all located in the Jing An, Minghan and Putuo districts. At least half of them were not interested once they found out I was a Westerner and could not speak the language, a quarter upped the price, with one quoting me 2, 000 RMB. However there was a percentage who were more than happy to do some business.

The girls provide an address, which actually translates well and are relatively easy to locate and also a phone number (which is a little more problematic) , which you needed to call to get the final piece of the puzzle, the apartment number. I tried two and found myself in some questionable residential compounds and once I called, it all went pear shaped as there was nothing I could glean from the rapid fire Chinese on the other end. So on both occassions I left disappointed but undeterred.

Yesterday was Paydirt day. Located one girl who was very coperative and spoke a few words of english. Plugged in the address into Google maps and found out the paartment was only 500m from the office. Perfect for a lunch time adventure.

Found the apartment block easy enough, texted her in english I had arrived, she texted me down the apartment number (how hard was that!)

Of course being a westerner in a low end Chinese residential apartment usually means only one thing, so you have to be prepared to do the walk of shame and brave the disappearing looks from the local residents.

LuLu is a cute 23 year old but she has obviously been tucking into the mooncakes since she had her picture taken for the QQ space, nothing bad but not quite what I was expecting but then again I have done worse!

The apartment was a single room affair with a toilet and shower in an alcove.

LuLu was very eager and even had her English / Chinese dictionary handy, which I thourght was sweet.

A nice girl, certainly a little more solid than the average Chinese girl with a small rack with very small nipples. I should have also brought a lawn mower because she had the biggest Bush I have ever seen. If you were thinking of going down on her, you would have to negotiate some serious undergrowth! A challenge I was not really up for at the time.

She was all up for the GFE, lots of cuddliing and DFK. Very servicable BBBJ before getting down to business. Multiple positions and she was very partial to doggie.

Afterwards she was all up for continuing the GFE, snuggling up, kissing and little funny happy noises. Me. My attention was now firmly focused on the Macdonalds across the road.

So I said my goodbyes, as she was reading "I Love You" from the dictionary and headed out the door.

Walking back to the office, cheeseburger in hand, I mentally ticked off the Been There Done Box.

I might try perservering with a few more in search of that hidden Gem. Before going back to the easy way out.

Total damage. 300 RMB plus 50 RMB tip whihc I hope she puts towards some serious deforestation.

P. S. All translations provided by Google

[QUOTE=Huangdipingxian; 1191777]Could somebody please explain me what this numbers means?

I saw in so many post but I don't understand.

Thanks for helping me!

She came back with this:

&26381; &21153; :&20570; &29233; &65292; &21475; &20570; , &33016; &25512; , &28459; &28216; , &20912; &28779; .69&24335; , &21475; &29190; , &40499; &40495; &28020; . &23039; &21183; &38543; &24847;

(Fuwu: Zuo'ai, kou zuo, xiong tui, manyou, bing huo. 69 shi, koubao, yuanyangyu. Zishi suiyì).[/QUOTE]Services: Sex, Oral Sex, Breast Massage (Catbath) , Fire and Ice (this involves ice cubes, hot water, her mouth, and your dick) .69 style, Cum-in-her Mouth, Bath Together. Position of your choice.

&26381; &21153; :&20570; &29233; &65292; &21475; &20570; , &33016; &25512; , &28459; &28216; , &20912; &28779; .69&24335; , &21475; &29190; , &40499; &40495; &28020; . &23039; &21183; &38543; &24847.

These number are for "services"? How can I translate them?

[QUOTE=Thekraz; 1191782].

Armed with nothing more than Google translater I hit the QQ and Lang520. Com forum, in search of apartment girls.

Lang520. Com is all in Chinese, patience and determination is required if you don't speak and read the language. Like me.

On Lang520. Com there are hundreds of "Beauty Wolfs" advertising with "Coyotee" verifications. The services offered include amoungst other things,"Mouth Explosions","Big Chest Heave","Affection Sister Love (eww!) and my personal favourite "Big Russian Cartwheel".

A nice girl, certainly a little more solid than the average Chinese girl with a small rack with very small nipples. I should have also brought a lawn mower because she had the biggest Bush I have ever seen. If you were thinking of going down on her, you would have to negotiate some serious undergrowth! A challenge I was not really up for at the time.

Total damage. 300 RMB plus 50 RMB tip whihc I hope she puts towards some serious deforestation.

P. S. All translations provided by Google[/QUOTE]Thekraz: excellent field report.

Personally I love a thick Bush. It is just as nature intended, and perfectly defines the target!

Every time I am in the jungle I am reminded of Stanley, and his famous quote,"Dr Livingstone, I presume?"

Lulu will now be in love with you. Treat her gently, and train her. See how dirty you can be together! She will enjoy the training!

She can help you learn Chinese.

Just my experience.

Enjoy and report.

P13

Coming to shanghai for a few days, and from what I read here Bodi seems to be a good choice of primary target.

- do they do doubles?

- westerner friendly?

- fixed price?

- is it fixed time limit?

Many thanks!

Playing in that thick Bush is one of the joys of Chinese females. Learning the game is worthwhile and leads to some fantastic fucking. Go slow. She will direct you with her hips and her hands. Don't rush it. Discover that pot of gold and savor it. Lick it. Lick it again. And drink. Nectar of the gods. Depend on her to teach you. She will be a great teacher, and no, you don't need to know any Chinese. At some point she will pull your face out of her pussy and whisper 'fuck me' if she knows the terms or she will just pull you into her and you will have the ride of your life. She will have a favorite position. Doggy is common I've found. And don't come quickly. Stretch it out. She'll appreciate it and will not be shy. Every time? Nope. But more often than not the sex is very very very good. Take your time. Enjoy the Chinese female.

[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1191828]Playing in that thick Bush is one of the joys of Chinese females. Learning the game is worthwhile and leads to some fantastic fucking. Go slow. She will direct you with her hips and her hands. Don't rush it. Discover that pot of gold and savor it. Lick it. Lick it again. And drink. Nectar of the gods. Depend on her to teach you. She will be a great teacher, and no, you don't need to know any Chinese. At some point she will pull your face out of her pussy and whisper 'fuck me' if she knows the terms or she will just pull you into her and you will have the ride of your life. She will have a favorite position. Doggy is common I've found. And don't come quickly. Stretch it out. She'll appreciate it and will not be shy. Every time? Nope. But more often than not the sex is very very very good. Take your time. Enjoy the Chinese female.[/QUOTE]Thank for the advice. However I am not a newbie having been in this country for 4 years now and having shagged my way across the length and breadth of this country. There is not much I have not tried. But honestly I swear if I had taken the time to look I reckon I could have found a lost civilization living down there!

I stand corrected.

[QUOTE=Thekraz;1191893]Thank for the advice. However I am not a newbie having been in this country for 4 years now and having shagged my way across the length and breadth of this country. There is not much I have not tried. But honestly I swear if I had taken the time to look I reckon I could have found a lost civilization living down there![/QUOTE]

[quote=waldeck2;1191828]playing in that thick bush is one of the joys of chinese females. learning the game is worthwhile and leads to some fantastic fucking. go slow. she will direct you with her hips and her hands. don't rush it. discover that pot of gold and savor it. lick it. lick it again. and drink. nectar of the gods. depend on her to teach you. she will be a great teacher, and no, you don't need to know any chinese. at some point she will pull your face out of her pussy and whisper 'fuck me' if she knows the terms or she will just pull you into her and you will have the ride of your life. she will have a favorite position. doggy is common i've found. and don't come quickly. stretch it out. she'll appreciate it and will not be shy. every time? nope. but more often than not the sex is very very very good. take your time. enjoy the chinese female.[/quote]of course, to each his own, but my (many years, many cities, many women) experience in country has been that the amount of bush is inversely proportional to the woman's hygiene level. bits of toilet paper and the stale scent of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] do not make a pleasurable 'atmosphere' (at least not for me). fortunately, i am coming across (and inside!) a growing number of chinese women who shave (armpits and pubes).

standard disclaimer: ymmv/no offense/play safe/blah blah blah...

[QUOTE=JubbleFun; 1191820]Coming to shanghai for a few days, and from what I read here Bodi seems to be a good choice of primary target.

- do they do doubles?

- westerner friendly?

- fixed price?

- is it fixed time limit?

Many thanks![/QUOTE]Doubles as in 2 girls + you, I can speak from experience that is a definite yes.

If you mean doubles as in you and your friend "share" some girls, then I don't know. I heard JiYuan used to offer that type of service, but don't know about Bodi.

Westerner friendly? Yes. The lobby manager and papasan speaks passable English. The girls not so much.

Fixed Price? Yes. But they used to offer discounts. You may need to ask the manager / papasan if you are really budget concious. I think minimal price is close to 800 for 1 girl. If you add a second girl the tag goes up by about 500. I don't remember the exact figures, but they don't charge crazy prices because you are not Chinese.

Fixed Time Limit? I think the time limit is 60 minutes.

If you are about to go over the time limit the girl should tell you, and when time is up the operator will call the room.

[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1191828]Playing in that thick Bush is one of the joys of Chinese females. Learning the game is worthwhile and leads to some fantastic fucking. Go slow. She will direct you with her hips and her hands. Don't rush it. Discover that pot of gold and savor it. Lick it. Lick it again. And drink. Nectar of the gods. Depend on her to teach you. She will be a great teacher, and no, you don't need to know any Chinese. At some point she will pull your face out of her pussy and whisper 'fuck me' . Enjoy the Chinese female.[/QUOTE]A true artist speaks here. What remains to be said is that this is doing yourself a favor. It kicks the whole event up a notch to be a two way human interaction that is emotionally rewarding.

As was noted earlier, QQ girls and even BBS ones seem to more and more reject foreigners. Did anyone notice this trend or is it just me? Even a girl from a mamasan I know for long time refused when she heard I was american. Depressing.

As for a list of good QQ girls, I'm all for it! Even though most ones I tried so far are sub-par. I saw a pretty good one in the flat of another one, and very conveniently placed near Jing'An, but same dice, no laowai.

L. M.

in the 3 years i have lived in china, and the 1/2 dozen trips i made to china before that and for the 15 years i fucked korean sauna girls in 1/2 the us i have never come across a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] smelly chinese or korean pussy. none. not one. the routine is this. they wash themselves and many wash you, sometimes both before and after. and i have never met a chinese woman who has a shaved crotch. some have sparse crotch hair. korean girls in the us usually have a shaved crotch. and korean pussy has a distinctively different taste compared to chinese pussy. i think it's from eating kimchi. now it is true that i have not met all chinese woman so some may be smelly and dirty and they may have shaved. i'm educable.

I'm in Shanghai for the week, staying in the Jianguo Hotel in Xujiahui. Went to 999 on Monday but I'll report on that separately as it deserves a report of its own. Tonight is Thursday. It has been a very hot week here and the skirts around town seem to be getting progressively shorter every day since I arrived, so I felt the urge to go release some pent-up tensions tonight.

I needed something a bit on the low budget side tonight, so went out searching for a good rub & tug joint and was successful in finding several nearby the Jianguo. If you walk out the Jianguo front door and turn left, you will be headed south on Caoxi Road. Cross the street at Nandan Road and continue to head south on Caoxi. You want to be on the right side of Caoxi. Continue to walk about 5 minutes and you will come to a small street called Yude. You will still be slightly north of the stadium complex whicnh will be on your left. There is a "Buddies" convenience store on the corner. Turn right and you should see a pink free-standing massage sign with the menu and prices in Chinese and English.

The place looks semi-legit at first glance, but as I was standing there looking at the menu I noticed two girls standing in the doorway. They were wearing a uniform consisting of a white blouse, a blue and white striped scarf around the neck, and a navy blue skirt. Not trashy at all and somewhat professional looking, except the skirts were quite a bit shorter than what you would normally find in a legit place. One of the girls said "Nihau" and motioned for me to come in, which I did. Almost no English spoken inside, but I was quoted 178 RMB for a "1. 5 hour full body oil massage." I figured what the hell. The girl was not bad looking at all, maybe late 20's with a decent face and body. The worst that could happen is I'd be out 178 for a crappy-ass legit massage. She led me to a room with a standard massage table, a larger bed-sized massage table, and a shower stall. She motioned for me to undress and handed me a pair of paper-like shorts to put on. What's funny is she stayed in the room while I changed, so I wondered what the point of the shorts was.

I got face down on the massage table, and she went to the head of the table and started massaging my back and shoulders with oil. And actually was doing a respectable job. I started feeling up her legs. She giggled and did not object. The back massage continued for about 10 minutes while I caressed her legs. They were very soft and silky, and also quite shapely. Then came a knock on the door, and the second girl who I saw standing in the doorway earlier came in. Time for the upsell. They quoted me a 2-girl massage for 178 each. The second girl was equally good looking so I said ok, even though I probably could have negotiated down a bit. The first girl moved down to the foot of the table to work on my legs and ass while the second girl took over at the head of the table. I felt up her legs and worked my way up her skirt with no objections.

Eventually they had me flip. They were both still fully clothed at that point and they tried to negotiate "more massage" for 600 total. I declined, saying that 400 was all I had (which was true). They tried to be persistent and say "no. 600" but I held firm and they eventually backed down and said ok. Both girls then lifted up their shirts and undid their bras. One of them worked my rod while the other rubbed my chest. I felt up under both girls' skirts and pulled both of their panties down. They both said no as I was doing that, but put up no resistance at all. They let me touch anywhere but no insertion. After I blew my load, they cleaned me up and continued to massage my arms, chest, and legs for another 15 minutes, then started the shower for me. On my way out I paid 400 at the front counter and was out the door.

Total experience was not bad. A halfway decent massage and HJ from 2 respectable looking naked girls for 400. It may have been possible to negotiate down further and maybe even get more than a HJ, but I left satisfied. Definitely not up to 999 standards but it will do in a pinch.

On the way back to the Jianguo I noticed a lot of other large Massage signs. Most looked very legit, but in others I saw similarly dressed girls standing near the front entrance. I'd bet they offer similar services but I didn't check.

I gave 999 a try for the first time. Very easy to find from the Jianguo hotel. Basically find Tianyaoquio road which is a couple blocks east of the hotel, then walk south for about 20 minutes until you reach address 999. I was surprised at how easy it was to locate.

I walked in the front door and asked if credit cards were ok. Good English was spoken at the counter. They said yes and asked if I wanted one girl or two. I said one and they directed me to the locker room.

Now this part is a little strange, but I guess it's typical of these places. A male attendant shows you to a locker and stands right there with you as you strip completely and put your clothes in the locker. Then he directs you to the shower. While I was showering, another male attendant walked right up to me and tried to sell me some pre-massage services, which I declined (I was thinking "dude, seriously? I'm butt naked and taking a shower"). After the shower you go to the dry-off area, where yet another male attendant hands you a towel and then the PJ's to put on. There were 5 or 6 other guys in the room at the same time getting undressed and showered.

After donning the PJ's I was directed upstairs and led into a waiting room. I was offered a drink. Tea, water, or orange juice, and asked to sit in a recliner and wait. After about 10 minutes a guy came in and motioned for me to follow, and he took me to the fishbowl. Man, what a sight for sore eyes! About 12 girls (I didn't count) , most very young looking and ranging from 7. 9 in appearance. I stood there for a couple minutes taking it all in and trying to make up my mind. It seemed like there was no hurry to make a choice. Then the guy told me that "908 gives the best massage." I looked at 908 and she wasn't one of the girls I was considering. Slightly older than the rest (maybe late 20's) , but she had a nice rack for a Chinese girl and also had a cute face and a very pretty smile, so I decided to take her. She was a little thick around the middle and had noticeable belly flab when she took her clothes off, but I didn't let that bother me.

In the room, she undressed me and then herself and got right to work in the shower area. Full body scrub while I sat on a split stool, paying special attention to my butt crack area (and we all know why). Did a good job on the soapy body slide, then off to the bed for the standard action (cat bath, AR, more cat bath on the front, then a very aggressive BBBJ). On the AR she didn't just lick, she literally shoved her tongue up my bung hole what felt like a good inch. While she was giving me BBBJ my hands explored everywhere. At one point I was rubbing her asshole and she immediately reached back and squirted some lube there so I could stick my finger in. The BBBJ was so good that I couldn't hold it much longer, so I ended up popping in her mouth. She gave me a playful swat on the chest as if to say I wasn't supposed to do that yet, but she didn't seem to mind. She then tried to get me hard again but it just wasn't in the cards tonight. I was ok with that though. I'm not normally into FS and by popping a little early I didn't have to worry about it going that far. I'd much rather have a well-executed BJ any time.

All in all a great experience. Part of me wishes I didn't let the fishbowl guy talk me into taking 908 since there were half a dozen girls to choose from who were younger and much hotter. On the other hand. 908 was definitely experienced and gave great service, and she had a pretty face and a nice personality. I will definitely return the next time business brings me back to Shanghai.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23; 1192719]I gave 999 a try for the first time. .

Now this part is a little strange, but I guess it's typical of these places. A male attendant shows you to a locker and stands right there with you as you strip completely and put your clothes in the locker. Then he directs you to the shower. While I was showering, another male attendant walked right up to me and tried to sell me some pre-massage services, which I declined (I was thinking "dude, seriously? I'm butt naked and taking a shower"). After the shower you go to the dry-off area, where yet another male attendant hands you a towel and then the PJ's to put on. There were 5 or 6 other guys in the room at the same time getting undressed and showered.[/QUOTE]It is normal in Chinese saunas to have male attendants, also in Macau. They even help you in thightening the belt of the jacket around your waist, doing that from your back!

Get easy, nothing happens.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1192795]It is normal in Chinese saunas to have male attendants, also in Macau. They even help you in thightening the belt of the jacket around your waist, doing that from your back!

Get easy, nothing happens.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I know it's nothing to worry about. The guy even held up the shorts so I could step into them. It's just a little bizarre having a guy stand there while you're stripping, taking your clothes and hanging them up for you, and then having other guys walk literally right into the stall when you're showering to try to sell you more services. It's not something I've encountered anyplace else.

By the way, what in the hell is "milk salt?" The guy in the shower tried to push a pre-massage milk salt for an additional 68 RMB, but he didn't speak English well enough to explain what it was.

[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1192645]And I have never met a Chinese woman who has a shaved crotch[/QUOTE]I dated some girls in shanghai used to shave. Some did it, because they think western men like it (I talk about bar girls), some others did it because I told them men like it. So if you look around in the bar girls scene, I guess around 25% will be shaved, totally or brasilian style.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23;1192712]On the way back to the Jianguo I noticed a lot of other large Massage signs. Most looked very legit, but in others I saw similarly dressed girls standing near the front entrance. I'd bet they offer similar services but I didn't check.[/QUOTE]Most of the massage places that have short skirted girls in high heels at the door will provide similar service. If you click with the girl the first time (and speak a bit of Chinese) , you can generally arrange take away for the next. At my regular massage place, I have three of the girls as regular FS take out.

SH

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1192859]I dated some girls in shanghai used to shave. Some did it, because they think western men like it (I talk about bar girls), some others did it because I told them men like it. So if you look around in the bar girls scene, I guess around 25% will be shaved, totally or brasilian style.[/QUOTE]If you like them shaved, do what I do. Take them home and shave them yourself. Quite an enjoyable experience!

[QUOTE=Grimmy23; 1192857]Yeah, I know it's nothing to worry about. The guy even held up the shorts so I could step into them. It's just a little bizarre having a guy stand there while you're stripping, taking your clothes and hanging them up for you, and then having other guys walk literally right into the stall when you're showering to try to sell you more services. It's not something I've encountered anyplace else.

By the way, what in the hell is "milk salt?" The guy in the shower tried to push a pre-massage milk salt for an additional 68 RMB, but he didn't speak English well enough to explain what it was.[/QUOTE]Milk Salt is just a bath salt which smells like milk.

It is applied after you do the body scrub.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23;1192857]By the way, what in the hell is "milk salt?" The guy in the shower tried to push a pre-massage milk salt for an additional 68 RMB, but he didn't speak English well enough to explain what it was.[/QUOTE]It's a scrub-down given to you using salt and milk. You lie down on a table that looks like a massage table and the person doing it first hoses you down then pours a powder solution on you and rubs it over your body. This solution, which comes in a pre-packaged pouch, contains salt and some other stuff that's supposed to be good for your skin. Then they pour milk on you, either directly on top of the solution on your body or after hosing you off with water. It's all supposed to be good for your skin but I didn't notice any difference. It's painless.

This is all done in the public shower area, like where the guy gives you that scrub bath using a towel or special exfoliating mitt. This "cuo1 zao3" (lit."rub with the hands shower") can be a little painful but you can really feel that your skin is much smoother afterward. In some bathhouses you can get the salt milk bath done by the girl who you've chosen to bang, in a private shower room that has stalls. Sometimes the girl will use her tits to massage the salt and milk into your skin.

The salt milk bath is called yan2 nai3 yu4, lit. Salt milk bath.

Hey all,

First time poster, so first of all, thanks for all the information. Now I feel it is time I contribute something!

Went to Hailang a few days back for the first time and picked up a cute little spinner. Like everyone else already said, really easy to find. Check google maps and read around here. FYI, they still will do red rope if you ask, but you have to ask for "hong sheng". It might take a couple of tries, if your Chinese is next to none like mine, but you will get your point across eventually. It was fun and I am glad I tried it, but probably will not be doing it again. Anyways, awesome experience. My first time with a body slide and I think I picked the right girl for it because she was going to town! Grinding DEEP! After I flipped, she gave the general response about my size, but could tell she was a little excited and worried at the same time. I asked if she liked and she laughed and said "I'm not sure!". Either way, it kind of worked out because I think she decided to go in overdrive on the BBBJ (my favorite) so I would not be able to last as long for the main event. Which after 30 minutes of assorted fun and 20 minutes of BBBJ / red rope, she got her way LOL. Either way, I had no problem paying on my way out. Problem is, I do not remember number exactly, I think it was 932.

So far I have had my best experiences in Shanghai. About a year ago tried Shanghai Hotel and had an experience never to forget and I was moderately hungover to boot! Unfortunately, never get to spend much time there. Always passing through. = (

Until next time!

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1166833]I think it is new. There is a BBS at about 936 Changle Road, between Wulumuqi and Changshu Roads. Walked by a couple of times and the ladies were trying to wave me in. Really handy to the Hilton. Go south on Changshu to Changle, and turn right. Look for the green foot massage sign.[/QUOTE]Not exactly a BBS. They have 5ish beds separated by just curtains for HJ + pointless clothed massage. Heavy upsell on the 2 girls. FS didn't seem to be available. MPs or other BBSes in the area seem like a better plan.

During a recent trip to Shanghai I dedicated myself to try the best of SH saunas.

Went to 3 places captioned.

Before I start I apologize to fellow mongers as my memory is awful and could not remember the numbers of the girls.

Hailang: went there the 1st night

Obviously a favorite for Japanese and local business men, I was quite impressed by the standard of the facilities. Felt wealthy and solid.

It was Sunday night, it probably explained why the girl selection was not that impressive.

Nevertheless the girl I picked was very good looking from Jiangxi. 22 years old.

Great GFE, good fun.

She gave me the routine and the nuru massage was particularly nice thanks to her nice boobs.

Then regular stuff BBBJ, DATY, mish, cowgirl.

Overall experience: 9.

The second day I went to 999.

Arrived late but still good girl selection.

Picked a first petite girl from Henan very nice face. They don t seem to offer red rope service there.

As she kept pushing for a P3 I finally decided to give it a try. Ended up with a second very very sexy girl from Hunan.

3Ps are always tricky as the girls don t touch themselves, but overall it was good fun.

The facilities are a little cheaper than Hailang which makes it overall an experience not as good as hailang.

I ll give it a 8.

Last day went to Merrylin.

The interesting thing is that it seems that most of their clients are foreigners for now. It is located opposite the Intercontinental in Pudong. Makes it very convenient if you are in Pudong for business.

I had a go with another very sexy Hunan girl Yang Tiantian (20 years old)

The interesting thing is that the girls are doing this on the side to complement their income (and my girl was obviously doing it to pay for her Iphone 4.)

Good fun as well I ll give it a 8.

The price is slightly more expansive than in the other 2 (100 kuai more) and they don t have happy hours.

Conclusion: next time I ll probably go back to Hailang!

Last time went to 88 bar, was approached by a hottie (WG) who danced by my side. After a few minutes, feeling my reluctance to take her home, she offered to take me to her friend, standing in front of a table. The table had a bucket on it, with about 10 cups of whisky inside, and the girls offered me some, even some curacao glass, and there was a nice fruit cup. The two girls were cute enough and offered 3some for total 500. But was in no intention of actually taking them back, simply enjoying the suggestive presence of them and the loud music. After maybe 15 minutes, I realised the bucket on the table maybe wasn't free? So I pretexted to go to the toilets and got out of the bar using the other alley. Do you think the bucket is actually paid by the bar for their WG, or is it some kind of setup? I always felt 88 bar was a legit place, but now I wonder. Ever heard of anyone having to pay this in this bar? The 88 I'm talking about is the famous one, located at Fumin road / Donghu road.

Hoping that you guys can help. As you can see, I'm a senior member on this and the USA board. I've done some reading and I hope you can either confirm what I've found out or straighten me out.

I'll be in Shanghai next month for a couple of days. Probably just looking for the sauna experience. I'll be staying at the Courtyard Marriott on Dongfang Road. It looks like both Sacrosa and Bodi are within walking distance but I can't tell for sure. Any other local places that you can recommend?

Do these saunas work like the places in Thailand. Just walk in, pay and pick out the lady? I see some references to a shower first. Is there a lockable locker? I'm concerned about my wallet and passport.

Any possible problems with law enforcement?

Looks like the cost is between 670 and 880. Is that right? Pay up-front? What about tipping? I want to pay a fair price but not drive up the costs for the locals.

Thanks in advance for any help.

[QUOTE=Jon Jones; 1193965]Hoping that you guys can help. As you can see, I'm a senior member on this and the USA board. I've done some reading and I hope you can either confirm what I've found out or straighten me out.

I'll be in Shanghai next month for a couple of days. Probably just looking for the sauna experience. I'll be staying at the Courtyard Marriott on Dongfang Road. It looks like both Sacrosa and Bodi are within walking distance but I can't tell for sure. Any other local places that you can recommend?

Do these saunas work like the places in Thailand. Just walk in, pay and pick out the lady? I see some references to a shower first. Is there a lockable locker? I'm concerned about my wallet and passport.

Any possible problems with law enforcement?

Looks like the cost is between 670 and 880. Is that right? Pay up-front? What about tipping? I want to pay a fair price but not drive up the costs for the locals.

Thanks in advance for any help.[/QUOTE]There used to be a decent place in the Courtyard Marriott but I have not been there in years. The closest sauna outside your hotel is in the Merrylin hotel, then 2 blocks over from that would be Sacrosa. I would not say that Bodi is within walking distance but it is a short taxi ride.

All are locker room, shower first then go pick. Pay afterward. No tipping. Same cost for all at these saunas except at Sacrosa there is a discount rate of 580 before 5pm.

Never had a problem with my belongings. Wallet is always in place and cash untouched.

Have fun.

Should not be any LE issues but raids happen.

I have been but can't remember this happening. However, nothing is free, is it?

500 RMB for a threesome. Sounds cheap.

[QUOTE=JeromeChanel;1193894]Last time went to 88 bar, was approached by a hottie (WG) who danced by my side. After a few minutes, feeling my reluctance to take her home, she offered to take me to her friend, standing in front of a table. The table had a bucket on it, with about 10 cups of whisky inside, and the girls offered me some, even some curacao glass, and there was a nice fruit cup. The two girls were cute enough and offered 3some for total 500. But was in no intention of actually taking them back, simply enjoying the suggestive presence of them and the loud music. After maybe 15 minutes, I realised the bucket on the table maybe wasn't free? So I pretexted to go to the toilets and got out of the bar using the other alley. Do you think the bucket is actually paid by the bar for their WG, or is it some kind of setup? I always felt 88 bar was a legit place, but now I wonder. Ever heard of anyone having to pay this in this bar? The 88 I'm talking about is the famous one, located at Fumin road / Donghu road.[/QUOTE]

I know this has almost nothing to do with the pursuit of pussy, but do have a question for some of the local Shanghai resident types or maybe a well informed traveler.

Does anyone know of a bar / restaurant that will broadcast the NFL games in Shangahi. I realize the "night" games start around 8am, just didn't know if any of the places opened on a regular basis to show these games. I was thinking about Malone's, but again wasn't sure if someone had a better suggestion.

You are now free to resume your regularly scheduled programming, and. Thanks!

Sky

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1194065]I know this has almost nothing to do with the pursuit of pussy, but do have a question for some of the local Shanghai resident types or maybe a well informed traveler.

Does anyone know of a bar / restaurant that will broadcast the NFL games in Shangahi. I realize the "night" games start around 8am, just didn't know if any of the places opened on a regular basis to show these games. I was thinking about Malone's, but again wasn't sure if someone had a better suggestion.

You are now free to resume your regularly scheduled programming, and. Thanks!

Sky[/QUOTE]You can also try The Big Bamboo, The Spot bar, both of these are close to Malones. Also The Camel sports bar. Go packers Go.

Thanks. Merrylin looks like my best option with the recent remodeling. One post referred to dry rooms and wet rooms at Merrylin. How does that work?

Do you know if they take credit cards?

Thanks,

Jon.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger; 1194001]There used to be a decent place in the Courtyard Marriott but I have not been there in years. The closest sauna outside your hotel is in the Merrylin hotel, then 2 blocks over from that would be Sacrosa. I would not say that Bodi is within walking distance but it is a short taxi ride.

All are locker room, shower first then go pick. Pay afterward. No tipping. Same cost for all at these saunas except at Sacrosa there is a discount rate of 580 before 5pm.

Never had a problem with my belongings. Wallet is always in place and cash untouched.

Have fun.

Should not be any LE issues but raids happen.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1194001]There used to be a decent place in the Courtyard Marriott but I have not been there in years.[/QUOTE]Not aymore since some time.

CYM recently opened inhouse MP with room service if you stay there.

Pricess are steep and the girls will start to upsell very quickly to go as far a as BJ and not evn fully naked.

Stay away from it!

DO not know what happens in the MP rooms if you opt for those rooms, but I fear th attitude is the same (true that in your hotel they go more daring in upselling as they "hold" you)

Better invest a 10 mintues walk and hed to Merryllin or the Baosan 7sauna and KTV) that is just behind CY (very reports in ehre about it, must be too much non-foreign oriented (hotel reception has a hard time to speak englis, to be honest)

[QUOTE=Jon Jones; 1194230]Thanks. Merrylin looks like my best option with the recent remodeling. One post referred to dry rooms and wet rooms at Merrylin. How does that work?

Do you know if they take credit cards?

Thanks,

Jon.[/QUOTE]It is one room with a connect bathing area (no toilet) behind a sliding glass door. A soapy padded table and a split seat for cleaning your parts in the bathing area.

No idea about credit cards.

I like the idea of the wet / dry action if this is your first time but I prefer Sacrosa in the afternoon for just getting down to business and couple pops. The soapy just wastes time for me.

Brothers.

I plan to make a trip down to Shanghai later this week. I am an active member in Beijing, and would like to get together with some of the Shanghai brothers while I am in town. Maybe organize a bar crawl. Please send me a PM if you are interested in gettting together and we can make some plans.

Sammy

Ok, I'm looking for a hotel in Shanghai in the Pudong area and found what appears to be a great deal for a room at the Bodi hotel (1245 Longyang Road Pudong). Roughly $65 USD per night. Now, as far as I can tell this is also where the Bodi sauna is.

My questions

- Am I correct about the sauna location? Or have I mixed something up?

- Has anyone stayed at the Bodi hotel? Is it worth $65 a night (or more)?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Random932; 1194388]Ok, I'm looking for a hotel in Shanghai in the Pudong area and found what appears to be a great deal for a room at the Bodi hotel (1245 Longyang Road Pudong). Roughly $65 USD per night. Now, as far as I can tell this is also where the Bodi sauna is.

My questions

- Am I correct about the sauna location? Or have I mixed something up?

- Has anyone stayed at the Bodi hotel? Is it worth $65 a night (or more)?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]The hotel and sauna are in the same location.

I have not stayed there but Trip Adviser reviews are generally positive except for the location being less than convenient.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1194306]Not aymore since some time.

CYM recently opened inhouse MP with room service if you stay there.

Pricess are steep and the girls will start to upsell very quickly to go as far a as BJ and not evn fully naked.

Stay away from it!

DO not know what happens in the MP rooms if you opt for those rooms, but I fear th attitude is the same (true that in your hotel they go more daring in upselling as they "hold" you)

Better invest a 10 mintues walk and hed to Merryllin or the Baosan 7sauna and KTV) that is just behind CY (very reports in ehre about it, must be too much non-foreign oriented (hotel reception has a hard time to speak englis, to be honest) [/QUOTE]I tried the in house MP at the CY a few years back and it was (at least for me) completely legit. Not even a hint or offer of anything fun! The spa in the adjacent building next door was pretty run down and the selection of girls poor as I recall (some time ago). Many better alternatives nearby as the brothers have noted.

My ATF@Bodi tells me that the rooms in Bodi are the bomb.

I have yet to try it myself but I have accidentally ventured upstairs to the rooms before during my first trip trying to find the sauna.

@Bionicman. You will want to make sure you find the entrance to the sauna outside the hotel main entrance.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger; 1194402]The hotel and sauna are in the same location.

I have not stayed there but Trip Adviser reviews are generally positive except for the location being less than convenient.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak; 1194421]My [email]ATF@Bodi[/email] Tells me that the rooms in Bodi are the bomb.

I have yet to try it myself but I have accidentally ventured upstairs to the rooms before during my first trip trying to find the sauna.

@Bionicman. You will want to make sure you find the entrance to the sauna outside the hotel main entrance.[/QUOTE]@Guitarrefreak, @Fritobugger. Thanks guys, I'm thinking about going ahead and booking the room there. Not too worried about location, going to be wandering around town all day for the most part so location isn't critical unless it's out in the boonies.

Close to Longyang Subway station too, so easy to get to / from airport. At $65 a night it seems like a fantastic deal. Might as well spend the savings at the sauna.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger; 1194402]The hotel and sauna are in the same location.

I have not stayed there but Trip Adviser reviews are generally positive except for the location being less than convenient.[/QUOTE]True, there is no restaurant / shopping within walking distance, and sometimes it is hard to find a taxi when you want to leave the place.

But it is only 15 minutes away (walk) from Longyang Metro or another station on Line 7, which I can't remember the name.

I was desperate for some fresh meat after a very boring morning so I decided to take an extended lunch break and went to try out Merrylin Sauna.

The newly renovated hardware is on par with Bodi, well, that is not surprising considering it is now owned by the same guy who owns Bodi / 999 / Southern / Waves and a bunch of other places, talk about corporate expansion.

So expect the same type of service and management SOP from Bodi / 999 and their sister stores, except the televisions have been removed from the massage rooms.

I got there about 1PM and I was afraid I might have arrived too early, but the waiter in the locker room disagreed.

I think I only saw two other customers for the 2 hours I was there.

I did not spend much time with the shower / spa area because I didn't have the whole afternoon to spare.

So I quickly showered and moved on to get a robe and was led to a lounge with 4 chairs.

I don't know why but I waited about 25 minutes in the lounge.

I assume it is because the ladies haven't showed up yet.

Frankly I was not impressed by the lineup. I think I only saw 5 or 6 girls, and there was another customer right behind me so I quickly picked the only one I liked.

#888, nice smile, slender build, nice tits in a see-through fishnet suit.

Once in the room, she offered me the 2 girl option, said she works really well with her cousin together. For an extra 500, I agreed.

After a few minutes. 828 walked in the room. Nice tits, kind of fat but acceptable.

The soapie was pretty fun, and the catbath was also nice.

There was a problem for FS though. 888 would only do missionary with me. She claimed she suffered stomach cramps after she was pounded for 40 minutes under heavy American artillery last night, so she is uncomfortable with cowgirl, doggie, or any style other than missionary. I did not want to spend time to argue with her even if it was an excuse. At least 828, while not as hot shape wise, had no problems with the positions I want.

After I emptied my load, we stayed in bed for rest. 828 asked if I am up for seconds, I said my brother says he needs rest. The standard session is 75 minutes, if the girl doesn't keep the customer in the room for at least 70 minutes she will get fined even if the customer says the girl is not at fault. So while I was afraid my boss would summon me back to work I stayed listening to their chit-chat. 888 is terrified of white guys now, while the other one says she likes large dicks. Then I heard an interesting story about 888's recent encounter with a British patron who attempted to get away from the bill by throwing a tantrum and forgetting how to speak Chinese. Apparently the guy was not pleased with the club's condom policy or something, and tried to get away by yelling and shouting at the manager. The security guards did not react so kindly. I hope whoever I am talking about is not on this board.

Aforementioned, the place is cell phone friendly. You can use them even in the "massage room" not just the lounge area, so no need to worry about missed call from boss / spouse / client / FedEx or whatever.

Base price is 880, a tad more expensive than their sister stores. The 2nd girl adds 500 to the bill, but the cashier said 1370, don't know where the extra 20 comes from but it's trivial anyway.

Paid by VISA, that adds another 5% to the bill. Total damage close to 1500.

Since I needed to return to work, I did not linger on for extra services like foot massage or ear cleaning but I assume the services are there just like Bodi and 999.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1194505]True, there is no restaurant / shopping within walking distance, and sometimes it is hard to find a taxi when you want to leave the place.

But it is only 15 minutes away (walk) from Longyang Metro or another station on Line 7, which I can't remember the name.[/QUOTE]For the sheer convenience, book it. It's a gods deal and you just stumble downstairs, out and around right. Even if you are going to sample other places, the Bodi is nice. Just got to plan your food options.

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak;1194421]@Bionicman. You will want to make sure you find the entrance to the sauna outside the hotel main entrance.[/QUOTE]Do you refer to baosan?

Yes, I know, but my referral to hotel reception staff was mainly to highlight the "area" doesn't seem much oriented to foreigners, if a huge hotel as such doesn't have english speaking staff

All,

I am coming to town for a week and am looking for some names / numbers of girls who will come to my room for a massage, HJ and maybe BBJ. I get a little tired of the Manhattan scene and have been hit or miss with massage services. So I am looking to my brothers for any numbers of contacts, please PM them to me. I leave this weekend.

Thanks to all

Went to Hailang tonight. It is only ten minutes from the Hongqiao area hotel I was staying in.

Standard sauna procedures. Room was pretty good.

#893.

157 cm.

80 kg.

34c. Very nice on a small frame.

Age- didn't ask but I think mid 20s.

Looks. 6.5.

Body. 8.

Service. 8.5 very good BBBJ.

Repeat. Yes.

When I complimented her on her service, she mentioned that there are three teachers that also service customers. 918, 957, 977. Has anyone tried them?

Just got back to shanghai like a couple days ago. Tried my frist QQ girl today. Not same as picture but cute enough and very very nice and polite. I have been reading this forum for a while finial got a chance to post something. Ill have to give 999 and bodi a try since everyone says its so good.

[QUOTE=Member #1344; 1194612]Went to Hailang tonight. It is only ten minutes from the Hongqiao area hotel I was staying in.

Standard sauna procedures. Room was pretty good.

#893.

157 cm.

80 kg.

34c. Very nice on a small frame.

Age- didn't ask but I think mid 20s.

Looks. 6.5.

Body. 8.

Service. 8.5 very good BBBJ.

Repeat. Yes.

When I complimented her on her service, she mentioned that there are three teachers that also service customers. 918, 957, 977. Has anyone tried them?[/QUOTE]80 kg on a small frame? Yikes!

[QUOTE=California8;1194952]80 kg on a small frame? Yikes![/QUOTE]I assume the guy got confused by the Chinese weight unit "jin".1 jin is actually 0. 5 kilo.

Hi Guys,

I stayed in China some year, now outside for almost one year. I will come back next month and would like to date some normal private girls between 1000 and 1500 a night. I had several numbers last time (most of this girls I meet in bars like Manhattan, but also find 2 "real ones" in the internet) , but now I tried to contact them, and seems nearly all don`t work in this "business" any more or number running out (Shanghai is a fast-developing-city, I am afraid). Also tried to find some QQ girls last weeks, but my Chinese seems to be too bad for that. If you have some numbers of "real" girls with a normal GFE (please no agency-girls) , than I would be very thankfull, if you can send them by PM.

Thank you very much,

Steven

[QUOTE=Carage;1195002]I assume the guy got confused by the Chinese weight unit "jin".1 jin is actually 0. 5 kilo.[/QUOTE]Yes. Should be 40 kg

Went to 999 around 1:30 PM yesterday.

It was already busy, they nearly ran out of rooms.

Line up was about 20 girls, but not as impressive as before, no immediate eye-poppers.

When I entered the club, the lobby manager asked me for my membership card.

I said I had one, but I did not bring it today and I haven't been in town for a long time.

He let me in anyway, just asked me to bring it next time.

The locker room attendant informed me that their phone policy is the customer should keep their phone in the locker until the customer is done with the main event and intends to stay in the resting lounge. Well, I don't know why, perhaps it was because some of the older staff started to recognize me and started chatting, but I managed to carry my phone upstairs even into the massage room.

Any idea if the saunas will be closed on Monday?

Most will be open. Possibly a reduced staff. But the ones that are available will be glad to fuck you.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1195329]Any idea if the saunas will be closed on Monday?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1195329]Any idea if the saunas will be closed on Monday?[/QUOTE]My friend at 999 says 999 will be open but do not expect a full lineup.

I ve been back to hailang after after while yesterday. Got there around 1am. Had to pay upfront since it was late they said, but when I got off the building I saw dudes paying. I don't know what is this rule. Well, pretty good line up. But why the ladies look so sad. I picked 917. Very pretty to my tastes. But didn't seem to be happy to have been picked. Well this is China, never expect too many smiles here.

I wouldn't say the service was bad, she did the job with no passion at all. And I didn't feel sastified that much. I can speak a little bit Chinese but she made no efforts to speak slowly. So couldn't understand anything. , I felt like back years ago when I got in China for the first time.

She finally told me that I picked her 5 months ago. And told me what my name job. Were. I was impressed. I guess she is really my cup of tea.

The past few days, I tried sone qq girls. I fucked three girls. Very pretty on photos. Fat pandas for real. But I decided to do it whatever happen. So I fucked those 3 fat ugly pandas. But wouldn't try the experience anymore.

I love shanghai but service is day after day shittier.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1195329]Any idea if the saunas will be closed on Monday?[/QUOTE]Last year I went to Hai Lang (New Waves) that day and it was "business like usual", so you should try it out

#619 is a soapy artist. All I can say is wow! Great rack. Great eye contact. The soapy was off the hook though. Normally a soapy is not so great for me but this lady has skills and tricks that just were off the charts. Damn. I am not sure I can ever do another soapy after that. It seems anything else would be a huge disappointment.

For those of you that like a big thick Bush, she has got that going too.

But the rack. Oh that rack.

[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1195665]The past few days, I tried sone qq girls. I fucked three girls. Very pretty on photos. Fat pandas for real. But I decided to do it whatever happen. So I fucked those 3 fat ugly pandas. But wouldn't try the experience anymore.[/QUOTE]I also tried the QQ-Professionals some times ago, but same experience. Not a panda, but also no fun. Than I went on using QQ to talk with "normal" girls. So from time to time I found some girls that are interesting to chat with a western guy. I used some translation tool, but also can speak and write some Chinese, so I meet 3 girls that time willing to stay with me for a night, even for now money. One cute 24 years old girl come from Nanjing to Shanghai, booked a cheap hotel to stay with me for a night, than travel home again. Not even accept some money for her expense. She told me I am her first western friend, and also the first western "experience", so this is why she date me, and also reason for her to come to Shanghai. Now I am not in Shanghai any more, but I went there for holiday this year and she also come to visit me for a causual weekend. So QQ also can be not too bad, but you have to be a little bit lucky and also you need to invest a lot of time to find the very less willing to have fun with you, but not looking for a husband.

I have been lurking for a while. Just got an account. I go to shanghai quite often and stay in the Shanghai Hilton. (last visit August) and never had a problem getting a girl to the room. My favorite girl has moved and it would be easier for takeout if I stay at the Hongqiao hilton. Does anyone have experience getting a girl to the room there? Would I be better to I leave soon so I would need to change rooms. Give me some info and I promise to post the report!

[QUOTE=Steven Long;1195923]Than I went on using QQ to talk with "normal" girls. So from time to time I found some girls that are interesting to chat with a western guy. I used some translation tool, but also can speak and write some Chinese, so I meet 3 girls that time willing to stay with me for a night, even for now money. One cute 24 years old girl come from Nanjing to Shanghai, booked a cheap hotel to stay with me for a night, than travel home again.[/QUOTE]How do you found them on QQ; did you join one of their dating groups?

Greetings from Konsul

Just curious. How "western" are you?

[QUOTE=Steven Long;1195923]I also tried the QQ-Professionals some times ago, but same experience. Not a panda, but also no fun. Than I went on using QQ to talk with "normal" girls. So from time to time I found some girls that are interesting to chat with a western guy. I used some translation tool, but also can speak and write some Chinese, so I meet 3 girls that time willing to stay with me for a night, even for now money. One cute 24 years old girl come from Nanjing to Shanghai, booked a cheap hotel to stay with me for a night, than travel home again. Not even accept some money for her expense. She told me I am her first western friend, and also the first western "experience", so this is why she date me, and also reason for her to come to Shanghai. Now I am not in Shanghai any more, but I went there for holiday this year and she also come to visit me for a causual weekend. So QQ also can be not too bad, but you have to be a little bit lucky and also you need to invest a lot of time to find the very less willing to have fun with you, but not looking for a husband.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak;1196180]Just curious. How "western" are you?[/QUOTE]I am not sure if I understand meaning of "how western"? I am a german guy, stayed some years in China, so basic Chinese skills, nothing special, rest average.

[QUOTE=Konsul; 1196175]How do you found them on QQ; did you join one of their dating groups?

Greetings from Konsul[/QUOTE]I am also interested since Chinese girls remains a mistery to me.

[QUOTE=Konsul; 1196175]How do you found them on QQ; did you join one of their dating groups?

Greetings from Konsul[/QUOTE]No, I did not join dating groups. I tried one time, but for that my Chinese skills too low, so they "kicked me out" very soon. I just opened a new account, used a Chinese name that tell the Chinese girls I am a western guy, also used a Chinese profile description, that I like China, like to have Chinese friends, like the culture and so on (what you should like, if you want to make girls like you) than wait, till someone ask to connect me. Than I ignored all the men and accept all girls. Some advices: For the beginning, I denied all girls, if their profile show that they are not in Shanghai. Later if found out, most girls keep the city of their hometown, even they moved to Shanghai, so I am sure, I lost a lot of chances. Also I found out, it is helpfull to switch on and off your QQ from time to time. I think then you will shop up at the top of some "who is online now" lists. I got the feeling, after restart, number of girls want to contact me ris up. Another experience was, better act like you live in China, only now you are not. Works better, than if you tell them you are in Europe and come to Shanghai from time to time. Than, if you are connected, it`s up to you. For myself I waste a lot of time to built up a little friendship, than go forward, I know others save a lot of time, go straight forward very fast, than you waste less time each contact, but you need more contacts to come to the same point.

That is the question

Interesting to know because I actually have a regular at bodi who follows me back to my hotel and gives me freebie and the most amazing sex one can get, add to that the hotel view from 70+ floors up in pudong hyatt, that my friend, is life.

Anyway, my point was, its interesting to know what is the definition of how western one is, and in your case, its apparent its the skin color.

I have many conversations with my regular, and similar women in the business on how they feel about westerners.

Generally, the feedback I get is that "white" people are no longer as special since there are plenty around in an international city like shanghai, though, the appeal is that westerners tend to tip better (on this remark, to each his own of course). Actually, in most cases, they just prefer non-China-Chinese man since they are not as gentle, and they tend to consider japanese / korean men to be a little "dirtier" (no offense to any of the people in here, I am just regurgitating stuff said to me as is) , but in general, they do like westerners, taiwanese, hongkong, guys it seems.

In your case, sounds like you got lucky with a guy who likes you about something, just play that card well, and she will make you a happy man.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Steven Long;1196189]I am not sure if I understand meaning of "how western"? I am a german guy, stayed some years in China, so basic Chinese skills, nothing special, rest average.[/QUOTE]

i was in shanghai a couple of months back and i just wanted to thank all of you guys for all the information that's been posted here!

i tried bodi and dream spa the first two days, and decided i just had to go back to bodi on my last day! i think the general service at bodi, with all the little extras, are definitely excellent. the service provided by the girls differs in quality and even content, depending on the girls i guess, but all-in-all the two times i've been there, i've been very satisfied.

i went there at almost the same time of the day, but there was a line-up of 30 or so girls the first time and only half that number the second. i always tend to go for the girls who smile and have that 'come-and-get-me' look. i'm sorry, but i can't remember the numbers of the girls i picked. not too good with numbers. the first time i went for a 8/10 girl with tattoos peeking out of her bra and i ended up accepting that her friend join up after we got to the room. i wanted to try it with 2 girls and it was an interesting experience. however, i was much more interested in the girl i chose than in her friend and i didn't like the start-stop due to the antiseptic-wipe pauses for condom changes when the girls took turns. the soap bath and cat-baths were really good with these two though.

in between the two visits to bodi, i went to dream spa. i also made the common mistake of going round the right side of the building (my left when looking at the hotel entrance when exiting the taxi) and had to walk all the way back and to the other side. i was presented with a line-up of about 8 girls wearing air-force uniforms and wasn't too impressed after that 30-girl line-up at bodi, but picked a young 7/10. as we walked to the room, i did catch a glimpse of a the service was quite good. although the girl was young and lacked experience (she said she was 19) , she couldn't be faulted for her effort. however, i decided that i needed to go back to bodi again before leaving china!

and this time i managed to get really lucky with the girl even though there was much less choice! again, sorry about not remembering her number. i wasn't asked if i wanted a second girl this time (even if i wasn't looking to go for two this time) and we had to wait on seats in the corridor for a room to free up with 2 other 'couples'. i really had a great time with her as she really took great care of me. she told me later that i was her first customer for the day, so maybe that's why i got such a nice service.

i will definitely go to bodi when i'm in shanghai again.

Hi there I have not been to Shanghai lately and is visiting next month, where can we get Red Rope nowadays? Is it still available?

Any help will do thanks. John

[QUOTE=PeterPan69; 1196398]Hi there I have not been to Shanghai lately and is visiting next month, where can we get Red Rope nowadays? Is it still available?

Any help will do thanks. John[/QUOTE]The best option is RTFF. Satisfaction guaranteed!

hey jb, was that girl by any chance a really tall girl with a very soft voice? is the tattoo on her right breast or left?

[quote=j b shy;1196371]i went there at almost the same time of the day, but there was a line-up of 30 or so girls the first time and only half that number the second. i always tend to go for the girls who smile and have that 'come-and-get-me' look. i'm sorry, but i can't remember the numbers of the girls i picked. not too good with numbers. the first time i went for a 8/10 girl with tattoos peeking out of her bra and i ended up accepting that her friend join up after we got to the room. i wanted to try it with 2 girls and it was an interesting experience. however, i was much more interested in the girl i chose than in her friend and i didn't like the start-stop due to the antiseptic-wipe pauses for condom changes when the girls took turns. the soap bath and cat-baths were really good with these two though.[/quote]

[quote=guitarrefreak;1196684]hey jb, was that girl by any chance a really tall girl with a very soft voice? is the tattoo on her right breast or left?[/quote]guitarrefreak, she's not that tall, maybe 1m65-1m70. she has tattoos of flowers across her chest on both breasts if my now-not-so-good memory isn't failing me. she also wears glasses. what attracted me in her were her pretty eyes and her nice smile, apart from the top of her tattoo peeking out.

i think her face is really pretty (8 or 9/10) , but her body isn't so good (7/10) even though the tattoos do add some spice. if i remember correctly, she has a tattoo on her shaven crotch, one at the top of her butt and her number may be 529, but don't take my word for it. like i said, i'm not too good with numbers and i seem to be forgetting lots of stuff lately. i should have noted everything down, but didn't want my notes falling in the wrong hands!

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1196529]The best option is RTFF. Satisfaction guaranteed![/QUOTE]I tried a quick search in this threat now, but did not find out what means RTFF.

If anyone can tell me, I would be happy. Could be there are still some "Newbies" here around.

Will have the same problem.

[QUOTE=Steven Long; 1196774]I tried a quick search in this threat now, but did not find out what means RTFF.

If anyone can tell me, I would be happy. Could be there are still some "Newbies" here around.

Will have the same problem.[/QUOTE]Click the following links.

* Forum.

* Site Administration.

* Terms and Abbreviations.

* Terms and Abbreviations List

Hi Bionicman

Thanks for the advice but if I search the forum RTFF. It gives me very old posts

Any help for a newbie where to find some Red Rope in Shanghai

Or any one else that can help

Thanks guys for the help!

John.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1196529]The best option is RTFF. Satisfaction guaranteed![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai; 1196809]Click the following links.

* Forum.

* Site Administration.

* Terms and Abbreviations.

* Terms and Abbreviations List[/QUOTE]Haha. That`s great. Read the fucking forum. RTFF. But with a forum search, this topic did not show up.

Perhaps someone can include this Terms-and-Abbreviations-List in the search. Because without your help,

Nearly no chance to find it, I think.

[QUOTE=PeterPan69; 1196928]Hi Bionicman

Any help for a newbie where to find some Red Rope in Shanghai

John.[/QUOTE]Hi John, I had several Red Rope experience in the Hai Lang Sauna some.

Month ago, but not every room is prepared for it, so you have to tell them.

What you want, when you select the girl, than they will bring you to a room

With fixing on the ceiling. I checked another side and they also say Hailang still

Offer it:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/sauna/hai-lang/[/url]

Here you also find the description of the service, but no adress without membership.

You can show this Chinese adress to the taxi driver.

Zhong shan xi lu 1277 hao hai luo the sha.

&20013; &23665; &35199; &36335; 1277&21495; &28023; &34746; &22823; &21414;

Phone: 62759948.

Not easy to find, because it is in the backyard and they say now also

Advertisement has been removed since I visit it last time. Go to the backyard,

Than first narrow side path left, than second door right U-turn in.

Should be around 800 Yuan for one hour.

Enjoy and tell us, if you got what you have been looking for.

I'm back in Shanghai for a while. I though I would get a good massage at a reasonable price as advertised. I tried 2 adds from ChinaDaily. Com-Shanghai-massage & escort and one from Craigslist.

The first, from Craigslist, was an agent who told me 300 for 2 hours. Good price and the ad was really convincing. Soon a girl who wasn't pictured in the add and didn't have the same voice as the phone agent arrived. After 30 minutes of poor massage she flipped me over and started upselling to sex or at least a hand job. I declined so she left in a pout after 45 minutes with money for 2 hours in her pocket.

The second was from a ChinaDaily massage ad. After 10 minutes she flipped me over and offered to do a blow job. Tempting but no. I had other plans. She continued with the reasonable massage with me on my back and periodically resumed the upsell. I was determined not to go for it but she encouraged me to play with her boobs so that was the end. I got a very nice BBBJ cim and she still did foot massage for a while after. She left after an hour with 800.

The third, also from a ChinaDaily massage ad, started upselling after 30 seconds. When I declined as I had a date later and only wanted massage, she became insulting to my face. She wasn't the brightest light so she probably thought I didn't get it. Next she anounced that she was going to leave if I didn't want sex. The add I had answered was clearly offering high quality massage. I told her I paid for massage and if she left I would complain to her agent. She sat on the bed poking indifferently at me for another half an hour then left taking 90 minutes pay for 45 minutes work. I was going to throw her out anyway.

My guess is these are more or less bbs girls who know they can chagre tourists twice the price for the same job. I'm having better luck at legit massage places.

Any advice?

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1197145]I tried 2 adds from ChinaDaily. Com-Shanghai-massage & escort and one from Craigslist.[/QUOTE]I just help a Chinese friend to built up webpage for independend escort / massage ladies in Shanghai, so I start to check. All the ads from craigslist and other pages. First check the picture with google search to find out, if it can be real, than put all phone numbers in a database, so I can see if the number is used for different ads. Than later my Chinese friend call and met them to find out if they look like the picture. Till now I checked 487 "private" ads. The result: around 50 pictures I could not find the "real" source, more than 430 I could find out, where they have stolen the picture. But I guess at least 150 of them say very clear: 100% real picture, it is me and so on! My friend than call all the numbers (she reached around 300 till now) and about 10 are real independend girls, the others all are agencies. Than she try to meet the girls, only 5 meet her (so I think rest also agents). Not even one looked like the picture (even they told her on phone it`s real). I also checked all the pictures from around 30 Escort agencies in the web, half of them tell you the picture are for sure real, but not even from one of this agencies I did not find the japanese page where they have stolen the pictures!

So I think situation is like that:

1) If you contact massage or escort you find in the web, you will get a agent in 98% of all cases.

2) Agency will offer you 300 for a massage, than later "upgrade" to at least 1000, most time 2000-3000.

3) They will normaly not send any beautiful girl to your place.

4) If you are lucky and you find a real independent girl, this girl will be much more attractive, but she will charge at least 2000 for a short time job.

4) You have a 0. 0 chance to get the girl from the picture, whatever the description or the phone contact will tell you about it!

So first forget you will ever get what you see on any picture. No chance for it! And most time the ladies also will be not beautiful at all. Second, don`t believe any fixed price. If the Ladies come, they will start upselling. There are so many nice girls you can find in the bars, in Manhattan or in KTVs and they will stay the night with you for less than 2000, but ALL ways to find this girls on the Internet don`t work. So I think the best way to get what you are looking for is to go out and catch some for yourself or go to a Sauna.

Home delivery service is not a serious business in Shanghai at the moment.

Hi Steven

Thanks for the advice and info.

Will come back and report.

Thanks for the help.

John.

[QUOTE=Steven Long; 1196960]Hi John, I had several Red Rope experience in the Hai Lang Sauna some.

Month ago, but not every room is prepared for it, so you have to tell them.

What you want, when you select the girl, than they will bring you to a room

With fixing on the ceiling. I checked another side and they also say Hailang still

Offer it:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/sauna/hai-lang/[/url]

Here you also find the description of the service, but no adress without membership.

You can show this Chinese adress to the taxi driver.

Zhong shan xi lu 1277 hao hai luo the sha.

&20013; &23665; &35199; &36335; 1277&21495; &28023; &34746; &22823; &21414;

Phone: 62759948.

Not easy to find, because it is in the backyard and they say now also

Advertisement has been removed since I visit it last time. Go to the backyard,

Than first narrow side path left, than second door right U-turn in.

Should be around 800 Yuan for one hour.

Enjoy and tell us, if you got what you have been looking for.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1197145]I'm back in Shanghai for a while. I though I would get a good massage at a reasonable price as advertised. I tried 2 adds from ChinaDaily. Com-Shanghai-massage & escort and one from Craigslist.[/QUOTE]All she wanted was the upsell, which I refused as she was about a 3/10. After annoying me for half and hour and rubbing my dick and sulking I told her to leave. She wanted more and I just opened up the Ad and pointed out she wasn't the person in it, and that her rates were for 90 minutes and she wasn't giving me half the service, so just paid her half, then sent a text to the phone number to tell them so. Never heard anythign more.

Next time I tried I gave a general address and asked them to call when they arrived. When the number did not come up as the one I originally called, I ignored the number and never bothered to answer. Later the original number called me back and asked why I didn't answer. I told them that I did not recognize the number and did not take unkonow callers. When they offered to send someone else, I told them to forget it.

I have noticed that a lot of pictures from enjoycity appear in many craig's list photos, so guess they are stealing a few from there and other websites.

Does anyone know if Sacrosa takes foreign credit cards? And if they do, what does it show on the bill?

Thanks

[QUOTE=PeterPan69; 1197228]Hi Steven

Thanks for the advice and info.

Will come back and report.

Thanks for the help.

John.[/QUOTE]To Peterpan 69.

There use to be many sauna in Shanghai 10 yr ago that offer Red rope, did you experience this before or you just heard about it from this site, I am not a big fan on this and I have red rope many time before and Hailong use to offer this long time ago, they didn't offer it last time I was there 2 month ago and don't think any place in Shanghai still offer this.

This is a lost art many new girl this days don't know how to perform this correctly, last time I have this is in Zhu Hai in May at ChangAn sauna by a girl that been working there for over 2 yr she only perform for a few min and not every girl do this for more info go to Zhu hai to see my post.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1197156]There are so many nice girls you can find in the bars, in Manhattan or in KTVs and they will stay the night with you for less than 2000, but ALL ways to find this girls on the Internet don`t work. QUOTE]

So I took your advice. Last night I cancelled an appointment made with an online agent and instead had a really good time with a Vietnamese girl I meet at Manhattan. She said that of 10 girls 7 would do bad things like cheat or rob you.

It might seem obvious but the girls hanging around outside Malone's and Manhattan who try to drag you off by your dink are also pickpockets.

My regular girlfriends here are good girls who I trust.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1197451]Does anyone know if Sacrosa takes foreign credit cards? And if they do, what does it show on the bill?

Thanks[/QUOTE]AZ,

Cash only. No foreign, no local, no UnionPay.

SH

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1197145]I'm back in Shanghai for a while. I though I would get a good massage at a reasonable price as advertised. .

Any advice?[/QUOTE]Never pay up front.

[QUOTE=ShLax; 1197393]All she wanted was the upsell, which I refused as she was about a 3/10. After annoying me for half and hour and rubbing my dick and sulking I told her to leave. She wanted more and I just opened up the Ad and pointed out she wasn't the person in it, and that her rates were for 90 minutes and she wasn't giving me half the service, so just paid her half, then sent a text to the phone number to tell them so. Never heard anythign more.

Next time I tried I gave a general address and asked them to call when they arrived. When the number did not come up as the one I originally called, I ignored the number and never bothered to answer. Later the original number called me back and asked why I didn't answer. I told them that I did not recognize the number and did not take unkonow callers. When they offered to send someone else, I told them to forget it.

I have noticed that a lot of pictures from enjoycity appear in many craig's list photos, so guess they are stealing a few from there and other websites.[/QUOTE]Craig's list is pretty much useless now.

You may find a good one, but very rarely, and it will take a bit of work or you have to get lucky.

MAB

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1197145]I'm back in Shanghai for a while. I though I would get a good massage at a reasonable price as advertised. I tried 2 adds from ChinaDaily. Com-Shanghai-massage & escort and one from Craigslist.

The first, from Craigslist, was an agent who told me 300 for 2 hours. Good price and the ad was really convincing. Soon a girl who wasn't pictured in the add and didn't have the same voice as the phone agent arrived. After 30 minutes of poor massage she flipped me over and started upselling to sex or at least a hand job. I declined so she left in a pout after 45 minutes with money for 2 hours in her pocket.

The second was from a ChinaDaily massage ad. After 10 minutes she flipped me over and offered to do a blow job. Tempting but no. I had other plans. She continued with the reasonable massage with me on my back and periodically resumed the upsell. I was determined not to go for it but she encouraged me to play with her boobs so that was the end. I got a very nice BBBJ cim and she still did foot massage for a while after. She left after an hour with 800.

The third, also from a ChinaDaily massage ad, started upselling after 30 seconds. When I declined as I had a date later and only wanted massage, she became insulting to my face. She wasn't the brightest light so she probably thought I didn't get it. Next she anounced that she was going to leave if I didn't want sex. The add I had answered was clearly offering high quality massage. I told her I paid for massage and if she left I would complain to her agent. She sat on the bed poking indifferently at me for another half an hour then left taking 90 minutes pay for 45 minutes work. I was going to throw her out anyway.

My guess is these are more or less bbs girls who know they can chagre tourists twice the price for the same job. I'm having better luck at legit massage places.

Any advice?[/QUOTE]Answering advertising is pretty much a crap shoot. You could get lucky and get a newbie to the business, but not likely. The upsell is all to common. They figure you will think with your little head and you will just pay whatever outrageous overcharge they want.

At BBS and Massage shops you have to go in knowing the prices and very much act like you know what you are doing. Not knowing any Mandarin will go against you unless you know what you are doing. Go with someone experienced to show you the ropes or read ISG and get a ton of info before venturing out.

Don't' pre-pay, the girl will "screw you" not the other way around. If you know the prices, don't overpay because then they know you are a sucker and you won't get good service.

MAB

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1197145]I'm back in Shanghai for a while. I though I would get a good massage at a reasonable price as advertised. I tried 2 adds from ChinaDaily. Com-Shanghai-massage & escort and one from Craigslist.

The first, from Craigslist, was an agent who told me 300 for 2 hours. Good price and the ad was really convincing. Soon a girl who wasn't pictured in the add and didn't have the same voice as the phone agent arrived. After 30 minutes of poor massage she flipped me over and started upselling to sex or at least a hand job. I declined so she left in a pout after 45 minutes with money for 2 hours in her pocket.

The second was from a ChinaDaily massage ad. After 10 minutes she flipped me over and offered to do a blow job. Tempting but no. I had other plans. She continued with the reasonable massage with me on my back and periodically resumed the upsell. I was determined not to go for it but she encouraged me to play with her boobs so that was the end. I got a very nice BBBJ cim and she still did foot massage for a while after. She left after an hour with 800.

The third, also from a ChinaDaily massage ad, started upselling after 30 seconds. When I declined as I had a date later and only wanted massage, she became insulting to my face. She wasn't the brightest light so she probably thought I didn't get it. Next she anounced that she was going to leave if I didn't want sex. The add I had answered was clearly offering high quality massage. I told her I paid for massage and if she left I would complain to her agent. She sat on the bed poking indifferently at me for another half an hour then left taking 90 minutes pay for 45 minutes work. I was going to throw her out anyway.

My guess is these are more or less bbs girls who know they can chagre tourists twice the price for the same job. I'm having better luck at legit massage places.

Any advice?[/QUOTE]Don't call the ads. Take the time to try the massage places. Any one that has girls in skirts and heels will offer a HJ. Some actually give a great massage. But it takes time to cultivate the right relationships. I have done so over time, after trying a number of places (and I still do). I have developed a regular place where I rotate between 3 different girls, all three give great massages, usually naked, a little DATY. The finish is either a HJ or BBBJ on premises. As a VIP, it's 320 for 2 hours, plus a tip of 200 to the girl. I also do take away massage that is FS, where the house gets there usual and I tip 400, in all 720 for a 2 hour GFE in the comfort of my own place. There is no upsell, no negotiating.

Get out there and prospect. It's the only way to hit gold.

SH

[QUOTE=Mock A Bee; 1197668]Don't' pre-pay, the girl will "screw you" not the other way around. If you know the prices, don't overpay because then they know you are a sucker and you won't get good service.

MAB[/QUOTE]I hear you but they always ask for the money as soon as we get to the hotel room. Do you specify at the bar before leaving that you will only pay at the end?

I think I am a little spoiled by a couple of girls I know who take pride in their work and have some respect for me. Getting the money out of the way seems to clear the air for better things. Also I am used to the North American habit of paying up front.

I do get burned once in a while by strangers, and always by the bimbos from Online or Nanjing Lu.

What I am trying to say is they put a lot of emotional pressure on you to pay first and give you a bad time if you don't. I do try to avoid girls like this but once I am trapped in the hotel with them I usually will give in. Only once did I throw one out.

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1197678]I hear you but they always ask for the money as soon as we get to the hotel room. Do you specify at the bar before leaving that you will only pay at the end?

I think I am a little spoiled by a couple of girls I know who take pride in their work and have some respect for me. Getting the money out of the way seems to clear the air for better things. Also I am used to the North American habit of paying up front.

I do get burned once in a while by strangers, and always by the bimbos from Online or Nanjing Lu.

What I am trying to say is they put a lot of emotional pressure on you to pay first and give you a bad time if you don't. I do try to avoid girls like this but once I am trapped in the hotel with them I usually will give in. Only once did I throw one out.[/QUOTE]These girls are great at putting on the act. Most guys fold. Never pre-pay. Always make it clear that payment is after satisfactory delivery of services, not before. No deposits either. Don't be shy about kicking them to the curb if they want pre-payment. It just means you saved yourself paying too much for mediocre service.

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1197678]I hear you but they always ask for the money as soon as we get to the hotel room. Do you specify at the bar before leaving that you will only pay at the end?

I think I am a little spoiled by a couple of girls I know who take pride in their work and have some respect for me. Getting the money out of the way seems to clear the air for better things. Also I am used to the North American habit of paying up front.

I do get burned once in a while by strangers, and always by the bimbos from Online or Nanjing Lu.

What I am trying to say is they put a lot of emotional pressure on you to pay first and give you a bad time if you don't. I do try to avoid girls like this but once I am trapped in the hotel with them I usually will give in. Only once did I throw one out.[/QUOTE]Worst case maybe pay half up front, gives her some incentive to stay the full time, do a decent job, etc.

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1197678]I hear you but they always ask for the money as soon as we get to the hotel room. Do you specify at the bar before leaving that you will only pay at the end?

I think I am a little spoiled by a couple of girls I know who take pride in their work and have some respect for me. Getting the money out of the way seems to clear the air for better things. Also I am used to the North American habit of paying up front.

I do get burned once in a while by strangers, and always by the bimbos from Online or Nanjing Lu.

What I am trying to say is they put a lot of emotional pressure on you to pay first and give you a bad time if you don't. I do try to avoid girls like this but once I am trapped in the hotel with them I usually will give in. Only once did I throw one out.[/QUOTE]Hi Five,

MAB is totally correct. Here is the way to handle it and not have to deal with the emotional pressure. First, bake into your mind that you are in charge. Every interaction with her leading up to the action should be done with this attitude. You are the decider. You must win any challenge to this role. When she asks for the money up front, you look at her like she just said she was from Neptune, smile a bit, and say "No, after, *of course."

If she insists, or pouts, say that's the decision, and if you don't like it, leave now, and no taxi money. Tell her she knows that's the way it works, and there is no point in pouting. Then start taking her clothes off, or your clothes off. In other words, don't let her get you into the back and forth at all. Start the action, and if she continues to pout, kick her out (she will cave in, unless she is determined to rip you off, and those need to be kicked out).

Trust me, once she loses this challenge, *she will respect you more* and the sex will be better. If she wins, she won't respect you as much, and her service will show it. This is China. Power seduces.

GM

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1197678]What I am trying to say is they put a lot of emotional pressure on you to pay first and give you a bad time if you don't. I do try to avoid girls like this but once I am trapped in the hotel with them I usually will give in. Only once did I throw one out.[/QUOTE]I had a lot of fantastic nights with Manhattan Girls. I did not talk about money in Manhattan before we left. After we arrived in the hotel, they asked, I hand over 1000 RMB (never less, never more). Than they ask for more, I smilled, say no, than they stopped to ask soon and we start a great GFE for the rest of the night, next morning or noon time they left without any problems. I nearly never hat the experience, they don`t want to "serve" me, because I paid allready! But I think one reason could be, that I come to Manhattan also for Drinks very often, so I know the "very professional all time girls" and try to avoid them. I prefer the normal shy girl, just come for a short time, want to make some money, but too new for only concentrate on the "3-guys-a-night" business. My experience with this girls is: if you treat them like your girlfriend (sometimes I show them arround, invite them for some food before we go to hotel) , they will also act like your girlfriend. So I spend a lot of great time with this kind of girls. You also can loose sometimes, when you pay, she do a short bad job, than leave. But I prefer GFE, so this strategy follows to what I like (not every time, but most time).

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48;1197530]. I have red rope many time before and Hailong use to offer this long time ago, they didn't offer it last time I was there 2 month ago and don't think any place in Shanghai still offer this.[/QUOTE]I think they still offer it, at least I have had it there some weeks ago.

Went to Merrylin Pudong (SiYuan sauna) again this afternoon.

Arrived around 2:10PM, as usual I needed to return to the office, so I didn't want to spend too much time.

I think I was out of the door by 3:40.

I walked in and requested for 888, the only stunner I saw in the lineup last time, but she was not around today.

So I went to check out the lineup again. Still only less than 10 girls to pick, but another hot chick caught my eye. 881.

Slender / athletic build, long hair, great curves, exactly my type. The manager recommended her as well.

Then I went on to pick the biggest boobs out of the lineup. 832, for double action.

As expected, her huge boobs are very fake. While 881's set is only slightly enhanced. Of course I didn't figure that out until action time.

As I waited for them to come out I think I overheard 881 grumble or complain something to the manager, and the manager only replied the customer made the decision, not a good sign.

Anyway, it turns out today is 832's first day on the job, so she is clueless about a lot of things, and she is extremely talkative. Seriously, she just won't shut up and wanted to chat. I don't know whether she speaks any foreign languages, so maybe non-Chinese customers won't be having the same experience. 881 is the complete opposite. She was very professional, but distanced or I should say cold in a certain way. I don't know whether this is her thing or someone rubbed her the wrong way. BTW, apparently 881 is one of the "instructors" for the girls. She has great skill and a very nice body, that is probably enough to keep me coming back. But I believe her attitude could be a turn-off for many if that is her usual behavior. Her curves in the mirror while pounding her doggie style is a really nice scene to behold.

832 tried to convince me into extending another hour but I insisted I can't because I need to get back to work. After the sex, she also tried to put her number into my phone and suggested 881 to give me her number as well.

881 flatly refused, she said she rarely gives out numbers, especially during the first session. Fine, I didn't expect to hear that. But I didn't really want to exchange numbers with them anyway.

I told them I probably should slip back into the office while hopefully no one missed my presence so I left probably 10 minutes before the clock.

SiYuan does not charge the extra 5% for credit cards like its sister stores. Well, they are already 100 RMB more expensive than their sister stores anyway. This time I looked at the receipt closer before I torn it up, the merchant name is Shanghai Merrylin Hotel. Total damage was 13XX for double girl action.

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1197618]AZ,

Cash only. No foreign, no local, no UnionPay.

SH[/QUOTE]Thanks ShangHangin. Would anyone know of a place similar where I can use a foreign credit card and not have the bill say some sauna name? Bodi? Hailang?

[QUOTE=Arizona123;1197734]Thanks ShangHangin. Would anyone know of a place similar where I can use a foreign credit card and not have the bill say some sauna name? Bodi? Hailang?[/QUOTE]I used credit card last year in Hail lang several times, but not sure, if it will still work. The booking name was a Chinese restaurant that time, and someone told me all sauna and massage studios do it like that, so the name should not be a problem.

[QUOTE=ShangHangin.

Can you send me a PM. I wanted to ask for a location of your favorite MP.

Beijing4987

[QUOTE=Arizona123;1197734]Thanks ShangHangin. Would anyone know of a place similar where I can use a foreign credit card and not have the bill say some sauna name? Bodi? Hailang?[/QUOTE]Bodi would show up on the statement as an investment club.

999 uses a restaurant front to handle credit card bills.

And Merrylin (SiYuan) shows up as Merrylin Hotel.

[QUOTE=Gualtier Malde; 1197692]Hi Five,

MAB is totally correct. Here is the way to handle it and not have to deal with the emotional pressure. First, bake into your mind that you are in charge. Every interaction with her leading up to the action should be done with this attitude. You are the decider. You must win any challenge to this role. When she asks for the money up front, you look at her like she just said she was from Neptune, smile a bit, and say "No, after, *of course."

If she insists, or pouts, say that's the decision, and if you don't like it, leave now, and no taxi money. Tell her she knows that's the way it works, and there is no point in pouting. Then start taking her clothes off, or your clothes off. In other words, don't let her get you into the back and forth at all. Start the action, and if she continues to pout, kick her out (she will cave in, unless she is determined to rip you off, and those need to be kicked out).

Trust me, once she loses this challenge, *she will respect you more* and the sex will be better. If she wins, she won't respect you as much, and her service will show it. This is China. Power seduces.

GM[/QUOTE]GM: great post.

This should be the introductory chapter in "The Foreign Male Visitor's Guide to China".

Well done GM.

Also this is my experience (gently but firmly applied) , and it always works.

Enjoy and report.

P13

[QUOTE=Gualtier Malde; 1197692]MAB is totally correct. Here is the way to handle it and not have to deal with the emotional pressure. First, bake into your mind that you are in charge. Every interaction with her leading up to the action should be done with this attitude. You are the decider. You must win any challenge to this role. When she asks for the money up front, you look at her like she just said she was from Neptune, smile a bit, and say "No, after, *of course."

If she insists, or pouts, say that's the decision, and if you don't like it, leave now, and no taxi money. Tell her she knows that's the way it works, and there is no point in pouting. Then start taking her clothes off, or your clothes off. In other words, don't let her get you into the back and forth at all. Start the action, and if she continues to pout, kick her out (she will cave in, unless she is determined to rip you off, and those need to be kicked out).[/QUOTE]So my two regular girlfriends here still get the,"You're money is there on the table," routine. They want to see me again. But strangers get paid at the end or they walk.

Where can I go to find normal rub and tugs with HJ or even BJ? Can somebody name some spots with directions from a MRT stop?

Haven't been in Shanghai for a while so followed the good advice of those on this board and made my way to Bodi within hours of arriving at the airport. Wasn't interested in a long time deal just wanted my ashes hauled after 14 hour flight. Entered the hotel rather than the spa by accident but soon got directed properly. (Out the door and turn right.) Front desk was brightly lit and well attended and despite minimal (ie none) Chinese I managed to make my wishes known. I was then given my armband and directed through the hallways to the locker room where I dropped trou and everything else. I took a quick shower and was directed to the fishbowl where I saw a few cuties. Not one was a 10 but I picked out an 8 and was talked into taking another. The first was petite 5' and thin. The other Almost my height 5'9" and heavier in proportion. We went upstairs and through the dark hallways to the room. Room was small but not cramped with dim lighting and an attached walk in shower area. I was stripped an deliciously bathed (Dual slippy slide!) Afterwards I was brought back to bed for the main course. What a TREAT! Dual cat bath and AL. (My first time; interesting but not my thing). Fire and ICE with much attention for my straining member. Bit of a cuddle before starting with the small girl. Slight complaint about size (Not that big folks). Wouldn't call it a GFE but definatly fun. Followed with larger girl who couldn't seem to get enough. (Damn if I can remember her #) Quite literally sucked me dry. Felt wrung out as they massaged me and pampered me for remaining time. Finished up and led back to elevator. Dressed etc and out. Total damage was 1380. Thanks again guys.

[QUOTE=Stannyboy;1197926]Where can I go to find normal rub and tugs with HJ or even BJ? Can somebody name some spots with directions from a MRT stop?[/QUOTE]Second on Stanny Boy. <p

New in Shanghai BTW, where is Bodi, address please?

Thanks!

Strad

Hi,

I am planning to travel to Shanghai in two weeks and stay there for approx. 3 days. As I don't want to be alone I am wondering if it is possible to find a young woman to spend the time with (GFE).

As I don't trust the ads on the internet I hope that somebody on this board could give me some helpful advice. I don't want to fool around in the clubs to find a girl. I want her to come to the hotel the same afternoon I arrive. So it is necessary to get to know her before I arrive in Shanghai.

I would be very thankful for any serious information.

Pirulo

[QUOTE=Pirulo; 1198275]Hi,

I am planning to travel to Shanghai in two weeks and stay there for approx. 3 days. As I don't want to be alone I am wondering if it is possible to find a young woman to spend the time with (GFE).

As I don't trust the ads on the internet I hope that somebody on this board could give me some helpful advice. I don't want to fool around in the clubs to find a girl. I want her to come to the hotel the same afternoon I arrive. So it is necessary to get to know her before I arrive in Shanghai.

I would be very thankful for any serious information.

Pirulo[/QUOTE]Send me a private message and I can help you

[QUOTE=Strad; 1198109]Second on Stanny Boy. <p

New in Shanghai BTW, where is Bodi, address please?

Thanks!

Strad[/QUOTE]Bodi Boutique Hotel.

No. 1245 Longyang.

Road, Pudong New.

Area, Shanghai.

200127, China.

Just remember, don't go in the main entrance. Swing around the left side

Hi Fast Eddie.

Thanks for the info, Yes I ave been to Shanghai a few times but have not been there for over a year.

I used to get this at Merrilyn, Shanghai Hotel and a few other places

Is there no where I will be able to have this in Shanghai itself.

Thanks for all the help guys.

Thanks John.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1197530]To Peterpan 69.

There use to be many sauna in Shanghai 10 yr ago that offer Red rope, did you experience this before or you just heard about it from this site, I am not a big fan on this and I have red rope many time before and Hailong use to offer this long time ago, they didn't offer it last time I was there 2 month ago and don't think any place in Shanghai still offer this.

This is a lost art many new girl this days don't know how to perform this correctly, last time I have this is in Zhu Hai in May at ChangAn sauna by a girl that been working there for over 2 yr she only perform for a few min and not every girl do this for more info go to Zhu hai to see my post.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PeterPan69; 1198407]Hi Fast Eddie.

Thanks for the info, Yes I ave been to Shanghai a few times but have not been there for over a year.

I used to get this at Merrilyn, Shanghai Hotel and a few other places

Is there no where I will be able to have this in Shanghai itself.

Thanks for all the help guys.

Thanks John.[/QUOTE]To Peter pan

Shanghai is changing fast not like 10 yr ago you can get P4P anywhere with crack down, China is trying to change it Image to the world so you can lucky if you get any actions now in Shanghai and it will be expensive is like this all over China just cheaper else where.

Fast Eddie 48

I fell for it, hook line and (almost) sinker as well!

Well I pretty much knew what was happening pretty quickly, but for some foolish reason I played along to the endgame. I was drinking a beer outside at Paulaner yesterday evening when a very cute girl walking by caught my eye and smiled and waved. She came over and I bought her a beer, and on schedule her phone rang within 15 minutes or so and her friend who just happened to be shopping wanted to meet her. The friend came as well, and they wanted to go to a nightclub. Up to this point I was suspicious but the little head was still in charge, but when I suggested we go to Brown Sugar just across the way and they deferred, I knew the jig was up.

So I played along, and they took me to a karaoke place, insisting it only cost 100 RMB for the room and of course further insisting that they had money, no problem! They did pay for the taxi. That I made sure of. Soon enough they bottle of brandy and the 1900 RMB check arrived, at which point I simply said I'm not paying, I didn't order anything but a few beers. The girls were VERY upset by the whole situation, as you can imagine. I put 500 RMB in the managers hand (we had 6 beers total, plus a fruit plate, plus maybe 30 minutes room time and that seemed like a fair price). Naturally he and his several buddies were blocking the door but I pushed through them, opened the door and started shouting "HELP HELP HELP!" and they immediately backed off.

I know from more positive experiences with Chinese friends that KTV bars are "legitimate" businesses with legitimate customers, so I knew they wouldn't want too much attention. Still, I count myself lucky. I know the game, knew it was going down at the time, yet I still played along for some stupid reason. Probably I didn't think there was really that much danger, and as it turns out there wasn't, but in retrospect I could easily have had my ass kicked (I'm a lover. Not a fighter!).

Stay safe out there guys.

BTW Also met a very lovely, sweet and sensual Cambodian girl at Manhattan the first night in town. She was truly special. The next night, after the KTV experience, I went back to Manhattan and was bowled over by a stunning stunning Filipina, but when we got back to the hotel and she undressed I could smell her stank from across the room and I gave her 100 taxi fare, then called the Cambodian girl for a "second date". So despite a couple stumbles, Shanghai has been fun; but I'm not sad to leave tomorrow. Never really did like this city!

[QUOTE=Jsxyz; 1198575]I fell for it, hook line and (almost) sinker as well!

Well I pretty much knew what was happening pretty quickly, but for some foolish reason I played along to the endgame. I was drinking a beer outside at Paulaner yesterday evening when a very cute girl walking by caught my eye and smiled and waved. She came over and I bought her a beer, and on schedule her phone rang within 15 minutes or so and her friend who just happened to be shopping wanted to meet her. The friend came as well, and they wanted to go to a nightclub. Up to this point I was suspicious but the little head was still in charge, but when I suggested we go to Brown Sugar just across the way and they deferred, I knew the jig was up.

So I played along, and they took me to a karaoke place, insisting it only cost 100 RMB for the room and of course further insisting that they had money, no problem! They did pay for the taxi. That I made sure of. Soon enough they bottle of brandy and the 1900 RMB check arrived, at which point I simply said I'm not paying, I didn't order anything but a few beers. The girls were VERY upset by the whole situation, as you can imagine. I put 500 RMB in the managers hand (we had 6 beers total, plus a fruit plate, plus maybe 30 minutes room time and that seemed like a fair price). Naturally he and his several buddies were blocking the door but I pushed through them, opened the door and started shouting "HELP HELP HELP!" and they immediately backed off.

I know from more positive experiences with Chinese friends that KTV bars are "legitimate" businesses with legitimate customers, so I knew they wouldn't want too much attention. Still, I count myself lucky. I know the game, knew it was going down at the time, yet I still played along for some stupid reason. Probably I didn't think there was really that much danger, and as it turns out there wasn't, but in retrospect I could easily have had my ass kicked (I'm a lover. Not a fighter!).

Stay safe out there guys.

BTW Also met a very lovely, sweet and sensual Cambodian girl at Manhattan the first night in town. She was truly special. The next night, after the KTV experience, I went back to Manhattan and was bowled over by a stunning stunning Filipina, but when we got back to the hotel and she undressed I could smell her stank from across the room and I gave her 100 taxi fare, then called the Cambodian girl for a "second date". So despite a couple stumbles, Shanghai has been fun; but I'm not sad to leave tomorrow. Never really did like this city![/QUOTE]Jsxyz-glad to her you did not get hit too bad. Same thing happento me last August on trip. Same location-two very pretty girls, started out cool, butg ended up "we want to go" been there done that-so no luck, another sat with me, as I was admireing the scenery and for half an thought I had something, until it was "I want that dress in the window first"-of course I said I will give you the money "after" for it, well that was the end of that. If it too good to be true, you know you have been had!

I still have my married girlfriend who lives with her australina boyfriend, we're heading on vacation for 4 days next month, Still haven't figured this one out, but it is not expensive. PM me and let me know if I was any help

Well, turns out my karaoke scam experience had a happy ending. Last night I went back to Paulaner and was sitting inside drinking a beer and chatting with one of the "working girls" when I noticed the second girl from the night before walk in and pass my table. I quickly got up and followed her, catching up just as she was about to head out the back door. I'm certain she didn't see me when she came in. She must have been scouting for another easy mark.

Long story short, I convinced her through sheer charm and flirtation to give me 300, which all-in-all was pretty reasonable since it left me down only 200. My charm and flirtation mostly consisted of calling her a thief, a ****, a lying fucking *****, and telling her that I would love to meet her boss and yes she should call him right now while I waited with her.

On my way back inside I apologized to one of the waitresses who witnessed us arguing inside, and she told me "don't worry I am happy you get money, those bad girls cheat many customers here."

And a note on Paulaner: I never see it mentioned here but it's not a bad alternative to Manhattan, as long as you realize it's just a regular bar with a few working girls. I'd say there were probably 10 or so last night, ranging from 3 to 6+ on the scale (for comparison, I wouldn't say many of the girls in Manhattan were much better looking, there are just many more and not too many on the low end). I ended up with a very pretty part-timer (if she is to believed) from Hunan who was a bit of a freak and loved biting, hair-pulling and ass-smacking!

Needless to say the evening turned out well!

Oh I almost forgot, I saw a girl in Paulaner who I had seen and chatted with the night before in Manhattan. So there does seem to be a little crossover, but it's a totally different scene.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1198825]Oh I almost forgot, I saw a girl in Paulaner who I had seen and chatted with the night before in Manhattan. So there does seem to be a little crossover, but it's a totally different scene.[/QUOTE]A lot of the Chinese girls you will find in Manhatten come from Xintiandi before. They first try to find customers in Luna Bar or Paulaner, if not successful, than they will go to Manhattan to get another chance, when Luna and Paulaner are on the way to close. This girls prefer Xintiandi, because all the Filipino and vietnam girls in Manhattan low down the price. In Luna or Paulaner, they can get deals for 2000 to 5000 for a overnight service, in Manhattan they will have no chance to find a customer for that budget, here they can get not more than 1500 to 2500. So easy to understand, why they prefer Xintiandi and go there for "hunting" first.

[QUOTE=Pirulo; 1198275]Hi,

I am planning to travel to Shanghai in two weeks and stay there for approx. 3 days. As I don't want to be alone I am wondering if it is possible to find a young woman to spend the time with (GFE). As I don't trust the ads on the internet I hope that somebody on this board could give me some helpful advice. I don't want to fool around in the clubs to find a girl. I want her to come to the hotel the same afternoon I arrive. So it is necessary to get to know her before I arrive in Shanghai.[/QUOTE]You can contact Candy. I know her and had some dates with her and she is also doing this "more days business" and her rate is ok. Only problem is, her english is more basic than great. But some other skills are more great than basic. You can contact her on QQ to check her before you arrive. I allready told her she should register a MSN Account, if she want to get in contact with foreigners, so could be she also start to use that. You can find her picture and profile here:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/independent-escort/shanghai-real-girls/high-class-candy/[/url]

Also with her personal phone number and e-mail adress. And she is definitly no a agency or a fake. Enjoy your time and don`t forget to place a report here to tell us about your experience.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1198928]A lot of the Chinese girls you will find in Manhatten come from Xintiandi before. They first try to find customers in Luna Bar or Paulaner, if not successful, than they will go to Manhattan to get another chance, when Luna and Paulaner are on the way to close. This girls prefer Xintiandi, because all the Filipino and vietnam girls in Manhattan low down the price. In Luna or Paulaner, they can get deals for 2000 to 5000 for a overnight service, in Manhattan they will have no chance to find a customer for that budget, here they can get not more than 1500 to 2500. So easy to understand, why they prefer Xintiandi and go there for "hunting" first.[/QUOTE]From my experience, the Chinese girls in XTD only charge like 800rmb. It's worthwhile but you have to be careful with them because they are not trustworthy. They will try to upsell once back at your place and rob you if they get a chance when you are not looking. The Manhattan girls that go to XTD try for high price, like 2000 and should be talked down as paying that price spoils them and ruins it for the other punters.

[QUOTE=Steven Long; 1198958]You can contact Candy. I know her and had some dates with her and she is also doing this "more days business" and her rate is ok. Only problem is, her english is more basic than great. But some other skills are more great than basic. You can contact her on QQ to check her before you arrive. I allready told her she should register a MSN Account, if she want to get in contact with foreigners, so could be she also start to use that. You can find her picture and profile here:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/independent-escort/shanghai-real-girls/high-class-candy/[/url]

Also with her personal phone number and e-mail adress. And she is definitly no a agency or a fake. Enjoy your time and don`t forget to place a report here to tell us about your experience.[/QUOTE]I was looking at the web site for Candy and the other places. I read one place offered the red rope. I was wondering what it was from reading about it eariler. I now know. Haahaha. Has anybody try this. I would think it is lying on a swing and twisting it. But how many times will they do this and is it not a turn off when they have to reset? Maybe they should be hooked up to an electric motor. LOL I think I have to try this service. Any comments about the red rope service?

Play safe. Ramher

[QUOTE=Ramher; 1199004]I was looking at the web site for Candy and the other places. I read one place offered the red rope. I was wondering what it was from reading about it eariler. I now know. Haahaha. Has anybody try this. I would think it is lying on a swing and twisting it. But how many times will they do this and is it not a turn off when they have to reset? Maybe they should be hooked up to an electric motor. LOL I think I have to try this service. Any comments about the red rope service?

Play safe. Ramher[/QUOTE]Good luck finding red rope service these days. But if you find it, it is more like an acrobatic routine. The massage bed has rails over it, attached to the ceiling (normally used for a back walking massage). The girl brings a length of strong silk cloth, which she throws over the rail. She ties it up in a loop and uses it like a rope (hence the name "red rope"). She climbs into it, and suspends herself, inverted, legs tangled in the rope, which places her mouth right over your dick. While giving you a BJ, she spins herself. It's quite entertaining and unusual. You might find some old photos in the photo gallery of this, at least there used to be some posted.

It's more a novelty than anything else, but a fun experience. (I'm not in Shanghai anymore, the locals might be able to point you in the right direction.)

GM

[QUOTE=Gualtier Malde; 1199230]Good luck finding red rope service these days. But if you find it, it is more like an acrobatic routine. The massage bed has rails over it, attached to the ceiling (normally used for a back walking massage). The girl brings a length of strong silk cloth, which she throws over the rail. She ties it up in a loop and uses it like a rope (hence the name "red rope"). She climbs into it, and suspends herself, inverted, legs tangled in the rope, which places her mouth right over your dick. While giving you a BJ, she spins herself. It's quite entertaining and unusual. You might find some old photos in the photo gallery of this, at least there used to be some posted.

It's more a novelty than anything else, but a fun experience. (I'm not in Shanghai anymore, the locals might be able to point you in the right direction.)

GM[/QUOTE]Pic in the photo section:

[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?1528-Photo-Gallery&p=1033602&viewfull=1#post1033602[/url]

[QUOTE=Ramher;1199004]I read one place offered the red rope. I was wondering what it was from reading about it eariler. Has anybody try this. I would think it is lying on a swing and twisting it. But how many times will they do this and is it not a turn off when they have to reset? Any comments about the red rope service?[/QUOTE]I enjoyed red rope several times in Hai Lang, it is funny, but not really "hot". She has to prepare a lot (fix the rope, sit insided, find position and so on) , so at the end the "spirit" of the moment is lost allready. Than you can watch her working hard (it doesn`t look like it is very comfortable for the girl) , so after 2 or 3 times spinning they all the time stopped. You should try it, but it`s not a must, if you know how it works.

[QUOTE=Gualtier Malde; 1199233]Pic in the photo section:

[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?1528-Photo-Gallery&p=1033602&viewfull=1#post1033602[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the info and photo. I just it is something to add to the bucket list (something one has to do before death).

From Mr. Long's post, there was a link. I was going through it in the sauna section. One of them still offer this service.

Play safe. Ramher

Can any body please tell me if Riverview is still active?

Ramrod

[QUOTE=Steven Long;1199235]I enjoyed red rope several times in Hai Lang, it is funny, but not really "hot". She has to prepare a lot (fix the rope, sit insided, find position and so on) , so at the end the "spirit" of the moment is lost allready. Than you can watch her working hard (it doesn`t look like it is very comfortable for the girl) , so after 2 or 3 times spinning they all the time stopped. You should try it, but it`s not a must, if you know how it works.[/QUOTE]I kind of figured out your opinon on the treatment. It is hard to have fun while the other person is not. Just something to try but I keep thinking, how long can she spin? I think it would be better hanging from a strong ceiling fan. Again, it is just something to try for memory sake. Just like I wanted to see how it is like with 2 girls at the same time. Tried it for the first time in HK. The fantasy is better then the experience.

Play safe. Ramher

[QUOTE=Ramher; 1199302]I kind of figured out your opinon on the treatment. It is hard to have fun while the other person is not. Just something to try but I keep thinking, how long can she spin? I think it would be better hanging from a strong ceiling fan. Again, it is just something to try for memory sake. Just like I wanted to see how it is like with 2 girls at the same time. Tried it for the first time in HK. The fantasy is better then the experience.

Play safe. Ramher[/QUOTE]I said this a few years ago, but I think you guys are crazy to want a mouth full of sharp teeth backed by 100 pounds of meat spinning above Junior. One loss of balance or a broken scarf and you could be castrated in a not so freak accident.

Always checking

[url]www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com[/url]

To see whats going on before my next trip.

Found a website on it and an explanation of what and who started it-sounds interesting and reviews seem honest.

[url]www.[/url] Private-escort-shanghai. Com.

Notice the resemblence of the two websites (with the. Dashes) might be run by Shanghai-nightlife-guide.

For you newcomers to SH.could be your best bet!

[QUOTE=Marty47; 1199354]Always checking.

[url]www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com[/url]

To see whats going on before my next trip.

Found a website on it and an explanation of what and who started it-sounds interesting and reviews seem honest.

[url]www.private-escort-shanghai.com[/url]

Notice the resemblence of the two websites (with the. Dashes) might be run by Shanghai-nightlife-guide.

For you newcomers to SH. Could be your best bet![/QUOTE]Hi Marty, thank you for your recommendation.

I am one of the "Guides" of the shanghai nightlife guide page and this escort page don`t belong to us, but we suppport them a lot, because till now we did not find any reliable service for outcall Escort in shanghai, so when Coco (before she was working as a reliable freelance girl on our nightlife page) asked us, if we can help her to built up a new service page, we did a deal with her to support her business, as long as she can make sure, she will not start with the same scamming than the other outcall services. Her business concept is easy and we hope it will work. First she try to find the less "real" girls you will find for example in Craigslist, than she go out to find the "normal" Chinese part time girls in Manhatten and other bars, than she check the Chinese web for real part time escorts and so on. So she can make sure, that all this girls are real independent (and not old and ugly) , otherwise they can not survive in the FL-Business. As I know from talking with her, it is not easy to find the girls, because too many swindler in Shanghai and a lot of the real Girls also too greedy, so they want to squeeze out as much as possible form each customers, so at the end, no follow up business. But at least she allready find some and we hope very much, she will find more. If you know girls like that from your trip around the city, I am sure, she will be happy if you forward contact informations of real girls to her. I think it should be a advantage for all of us here, if there is a ressource to find a reliable freelancer also out of Manhattan Bar.

One of our german friends also help her to built up the page, doing consulting and so on, so we should be informed very fast, if she start to cheat customers. They built up the page with the same system we use, and he also do the "consulting" for her. This should be reason why the pages are similar, because he also did the same for us when we start our page around 3 Years ago and he still help us to built up new features and so on.

Thanks for the post Shanghai Guide. So where do find this website you're referring to? How do we get in touch with this Coco?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1199524]Hi Marty, thank you for your recommendation.

I am one of the "Guides" of the shanghai nightlife guide page and this escort page don`t belong to us, but we suppport them a lot, because till now we did not find any reliable service for outcall Escort in shanghai, so when Coco (before she was working as a reliable freelance girl on our nightlife page) asked us, if we can help her to built up a new service page, we did a deal with her to support her business, as long as she can make sure, she will not start with the same scamming than the other outcall services. Her business concept is easy and we hope it will work. First she try to find the less "real" girls you will find for example in Craigslist, than she go out to find the "normal" Chinese part time girls in Manhatten and other bars, than she check the Chinese web for real part time escorts and so on. So she can make sure, that all this girls are real independent (and not old and ugly) , otherwise they can not survive in the FL-Business. As I know from talking with her, it is not easy to find the girls, because too many swindler in Shanghai and a lot of the real Girls also too greedy, so they want to squeeze out as much as possible form each customers, so at the end, no follow up business. But at least she allready find some and we hope very much, she will find more. If you know girls like that from your trip around the city, I am sure, she will be happy if you forward contact informations of real girls to her. I think it should be a advantage for all of us here, if there is a ressource to find a reliable freelancer also out of Manhattan Bar.

One of our german friends also help her to built up the page, doing consulting and so on, so we should be informed very fast, if she start to cheat customers. They built up the page with the same system we use, and he also do the "consulting" for her. This should be reason why the pages are similar, because he also did the same for us when we start our page around 3 Years ago and he still help us to built up new features and so on.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1199834]Thanks for the post Shanghai Guide. So where do find this website you're referring to? How do we get in touch with this Coco?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi Arizona, the page is.

[url]www.private-escort-shanghai.com[/url]

(phone: (0086) 136-41988600) , and if you call the number there, you will talk with Coco directly. I just had a chat with her some minutes ago, she told me very funny stories again. Some days ago she introduced a Chinese escort page to me and asked me, if I think this girls can be interesting. It looks great (a lot of girls, sometimes pictures look "real", also many girls with english skills) , so I told her this kind of girls can be perfect. Now we chatted again and she told me, she now applied for membership (RMB 300) and start to contact the girls. After two days now she find only 1 real student there. And allready more than 200 agencies. Seems to be a crazy scamming market, not only for us "weiguoren", but also for the Chinese people on Chinese webpages.

I just flew into Shanghai from Abu Dhabi yesterday for my first to Shanghai before heading elsewhere in China today.

Thanks, guys, for all the posts. They were really helpful in getting oriented in a short time. Also, I found the Shanghai Guide to be really useful, so Kudos to the Guide.

Anyway, after arriving at my hotel, a high end place on top of a very tall building in Pudong, I decided I needed to recover from the flight with a proper massage from the hotel spa before dinner and heading out. Given the hotel quality and standards, I fully expected a totally legit experience. Nevertheless, I noticed that the Chinese massage girl was spending extra time rubbing my butt before she asked me to turn over on my back. Then, as she was massaging my arms, she began brushing them with her breasts while at the same time rubbing her thighs against my hand. When she began to massage my stomach, she was sloppy and "accidentally" was brushing her hands against junior who was at attention. Taking a calculated chance, I began to rub her upper thigh and crotch, and she started giggling. At that point, the charade was up and she asked me if I wanted a "special" massage for USD 200. I countered at RMB 200 and we settled on RMB 400; I am sure way too much, but junior was negotiating! She dimmed the lights and told me to be very quiet since the massage room had a glass door and anyone walking by could see in. She let me feel her up and down while she took care of junior. A much happier ending than I was expecting.

After the massage, I considered staying in and resting after dinner, but curosity got the better of me and I took a taxi around 11:30pm to the Manhattan Club, based on the comments in the posts and in the Guide. It was chock full of pretty hot girls (this was Thursday) and stayed that way until well after 2 pm, as far as I could tell. I talked to Vietnamese, Thai and Filipino girls but no Chinese, who I gather from these posts consider themselves above the foreign girls. This is an interesting contrast with Abu Dhabi, where the PRC girls are among the cheapest and the Filipino and Thai girls are much sought after. Overall, the Manhattan Club compared quite favorably to the pick-up bars in Abu Dhabi and Dubai that I have been to, with respect to the selection of girls available, ambience, etc.

In any event, after some scouting, I ended up picking up a hot Filipino girl to take back to my hotel. (She initially asked for RMB 3000, but settled at RMB 1200 LT.) I was a bit worried bringing her back to my hotel with its conspicuous entrance and lobby up on a very high floor, but there was no one at the reception so there was no problem. Not only was there no problem bringing her up to the room, but when we realized neither one of us had any condoms, I called the concierge and they sent some up right away! (RMB 100. It's expensive not being prepared!)

All in all, a great first evening in Shanghai. I look forward to visiting again so I can try some of the other pick up bars and maybe a sauna.

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=Ramrod; 1199299]Can any body please tell me if Riverview is still active?

Ramrod[/QUOTE]I am 99% sure it is. I stayed there in June based on recommendations here. I wasn't able to use the sauna since I was busy with meeting colleagues. However, I saw on several occasions some smoking hot girls taking the elevator to the 2nd floor (sauna floor).

NL

[QUOTE=Steven Long; 1198958]You can contact Candy. I know her and had some dates with her and she is also doing this "more days business" and her rate is ok. Only problem is, her english is more basic than great. But some other skills are more great than basic. You can contact her on QQ to check her before you arrive. I allready told her she should register a MSN Account, if she want to get in contact with foreigners, so could be she also start to use that. You can find her picture and profile here:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/independent-escort/shanghai-real-girls/high-class-candy/[/url]

Also with her personal phone number and e-mail adress. And she is definitly no a agency or a fake. Enjoy your time and don`t forget to place a report here to tell us about your experience.[/QUOTE]Candy can be hit and miss. Met her and after drinks went for dinner. She gets a call and suddenly changes her tune saying can't stay in the hotel etc as police might come and all kind of lame excuses. Clearly she wanted to go and meet someone else but I didn't enjoy the fact that I wasted 2 hours. Thankfully and to her credit she didn't ask for any money. So yes she is real. Hopefully you catch her on a good day!

Is Candy Zheng as pretty as she looks in the photo? Her English seems poorer in email than what appears on the web.

Is it possible to find good Russian / East European escorts in Shanghai? There are some expensive websites promising 'real' girls but from the feedback here, I come to believe it is most probably a scam. So if anyone has some real tips, appreciate any help I can get.

Danny

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1199915]Hi Arizona, the page is.

[url]www.private-escort-shanghai.com[/url]

(phone: (0086) 136-41988600) , and if you call the number there, you will talk with Coco directly. I just had a chat with her some minutes ago, she told me very funny stories again. Some days ago she introduced a Chinese escort page to me and asked me, if I think this girls can be interesting. It looks great (a lot of girls, sometimes pictures look "real", also many girls with english skills) , so I told her this kind of girls can be perfect. Now we chatted again and she told me, she now applied for membership (RMB 300) and start to contact the girls. After two days now she find only 1 real student there. And allready more than 200 agencies. Seems to be a crazy scamming market, not only for us "weiguoren", but also for the Chinese people on Chinese webpages.[/QUOTE]Avoid lily. Not a hot bod like the pic. Over 30 and plump and not clean.

[QUOTE=Garam Dharam;1200119]Candy can be hit and miss. Met her and after drinks went for dinner. She gets a call and suddenly changes her tune saying can't stay in the hotel etc as police might come and all kind of lame excuses. Clearly she wanted to go and meet someone else but I didn't enjoy the fact that I wasted 2 hours. Thankfully and to her credit she didn't ask for any money. So yes she is real. Hopefully you catch her on a good day![/QUOTE]What was the deal between you two?

Perhaps she also decided to cut her losses and run (no deal between the two of you, more chat leading to where, didn't like you enough,.).

Her time (for her) is also important, and like most of us, she is moving to, potentially, a better deal.

Just my perspective.

P13

Anyone know of a reputable place that will do prostate massage in Shanghai?

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1199524]Hi Marty, thank you for your recommendation.

I am one of the "Guides" of the shanghai nightlife guide page and this escort page don`t belong to us, but we suppport them a lot, because till now we did not find any reliable service for outcall Escort in shanghai, so when Coco (before she was working as a reliable freelance girl on our nightlife page) asked us, if we can help her to built up a new service page, we did a deal with her to support her business, as long as she can make sure, she will not start with the same scamming than the other outcall services. Her business concept is easy and we hope it will work.[/QUOTE]Somebody has to just say this. WG's will never tell you they won't do anything or that they aren't living dolls, and touts will tell you the same gag 100 different ways as long as you will listen.

Immediately after an exhaustive discussion of how all the internet sites in Shanghai are scams we get the news that that means except one. This is on the word of a "Guide" who is only vaguely associated with the real and honest nice babes. Next comes the eye "candy" who is proof what nice babes they are but who gets a phone call and has to leave just before it is time to actually provide sex. But don't worry next comes a report on one of the girls at her agency. But surprise surprise this one turns out to be lilly who gets a bad review."Avoid lily. Not a hot bod like the pic. Over 30 and plump and not clean." Yuk, she sounds like the sheet at a bbs.

This sounds to me a lot like the gag they do on Nanjing Lu, and on all the internet massage and escort sites in Shanghai.

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1200473]This sounds to me a lot like the gag they do on Nanjing Lu, and on all the internet massage and escort sites in Shanghai.[/QUOTE]Good point, but I will add that the guide site is a welcome resource. I found it independently of this forum when I was researching Shanghai for my recent trip. It's a concise up-to-date reference which I found very helpful, especially the address cards which can easily be saved to iPhone or other device. ISG, despite the wealth of info, is nearly as user-friendly due to the forum format and the general layout, poor search implementation, etc.

Spent another quality two hours at SiYuan.

If you noticed the girls or the tags change a lot, you are not mistaken.

I have seen at least 3 different girls with the 832 tag over these two weeks, being curious I decided to ask the girls what's going on.

Well, apparently the place has some trouble retaining enough girls, so the "enterprise" decided to pool the girls from the sister stores.

Therefore, each day there will be girls randomly selected from 999, Southern, Waves, and their branches and being sent to work their shifts at SiYuan.

Then the girls get assigned random tags as they come to work. OK

So that explains why the number tags and the girls keep changing.

The two hotties I selected happened to be "volunteered" from Xinyuping. I've never heard of Xinyuping, but the girls' description of the place got me really excited.

They have 200 girls (well, the stage can only fit about 60 70 girls at a time though) on duty. This sounds like HK / Macau to me. Wow! I never knew such a place exists in Shanghai.

But there are also downsides, I work in Lujiaozui, but the place is on Lianhua Road / YiShan Road, very far away indeed.

What's worse, is there is never enough rooms at the place. So even if someone goes during lunch hour, the waiting period could be 1 hour or more.

And the place is like 10 years old, so don't expect the same level of hardware quality at the newer joints.

Has anyone been to Xinyuping? Care to comment on the things I heard?

I sure don't want to be stuck in traffic, then be stuck in a waiting room for the whole afternoon.

[QUOTE=Danny Chong; 1200182]Is Candy Zheng as pretty as she looks in the photo? Her English seems poorer in email than what appears on the web.

Is it possible to find good Russian / East European escorts in Shanghai? There are some expensive websites promising 'real' girls but from the feedback here, I come to believe it is most probably a scam. So if anyone has some real tips, appreciate any help I can get.

Danny[/QUOTE]NO. Candy is not as pretty as in the photo. Web write ups are done by friends.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1200299]What was the deal between you two?

Perhaps she also decided to cut her losses and run (no deal between the two of you, more chat leading to where, didn't like you enough.).

Her time (for her) is also important, and like most of us, she is moving to, potentially, a better deal.

Just my perspective.

P13[/QUOTE]Valid questions. Here are the facts:

1. One hour of drinks in the hotel bar. Nice banter.

2. She Suggests we go for dinner first (instead of going to the room). Takes me to a mexican place she likes. Orders her favorite nachos with cheese.

3. No discussion on deal till now. When I suggest after dinner lets go to the hotel. The drama starts. The money discussion didn't even start.

4. Of course she is entitled to scoot if she didn't enjoy the vibe. A bit cheap though to drag me out for dinner. Could have left after the drinks itself.

In summary, Manhattan stays the best bet in town!

I think I was probably pick pocketed in Manhatten recently, can vaguely remember when it might have happened as I talked to a small group of Filipinas. Luckily didn't lose wallet but just a few notes which I keep loose so as not to take the wallet out. Never had a problem there before so it is just a reminder to be careful.

First I would like to thank the mongers who gave me excellent advise before my visit. This post is mainly for visitors but I hope it will answer most of the questions of first timers.

I don't speak or write a word of Chinese and the employees don't speak English but that didn't present a problem. When you enter into the hotel walk over the elevator and go to the third floor. When the door opens on the third floor you'll see what looks like a hotel check-in. There will be one or two young guys to greet you was you step off. The first time I just said '880 service. '

One of the guys led me to the locker room area where I stripped, was give some shower shoes and led to the shower area. (The locks on the lockers are controlled by computer keys. You're given the plastic key which you can wear around your wrist.)

After the shower you'll be led to the sauna-hot tub areas which is only a few feet to the left. I spent about 10 minutes in each. You can spend more time or skip it altogether.

After leaving the sauna-hot tub area, you'll be taken to a room and instructed to lie down on a mat. A guy will scrub your body getting off the loose skin. (At this point I was wondering if they understood what service I wanted. He worked on me for about ten minutes. I didn't know it at the time but there was an extra 68 Yuan charge for this. After the first visit I declined the body scrub. I had to tell them many times I didn't want it but they finally got the idea.) After this it you'll go back to the shower. After drying you'll be given a pair of shorts and a light weight robe.

Then one of the guys will take you to the fish bowl where you can pick out the lady. (An unmarked wall will open to an area in front of the fish bowl.) After you make a selection you're taken to the wet / dry room where the action takes place. (There are rooms on both the 3rd and 4th floors.)

When you get to the room the lady will take your locker key and call the front desk to report that the action is starting. The rooms are clean. They have mirrors on the ceiling and at least one wall with a spot light shining down where you cock will be.

After the service is complete, around 70 minutes, the lady will call the front desk, hand you the phone and someone will ask you if the service was OK.

This place is very clean and you'll be very clean before the service begins and when it ends.

Back to front desk where you can pay in cash or credit card. If you pay by credit card the charge will show up as 'MEI LIN GE JIU DIAN SHANG $138. 17 (US).

Now for some brief reviews:

Number 830.

Arrived around 9PM and picked from about 8 ladies. 830 was the cutest. Probably around 22or 23. Reddish brown hair. Service started out OK. (With each of the ladies I spent around 20-25 minutes in the wet room.)

Right after the wet room she motioned for me to get down on all fours and she rimmed me for about 2 or 3 minutes. Afterwards a BBBJCIM. So far so good. But she thought she was done for the session. She started to send texts, took a picture of her face which she said she sent to her boyfriend in the United States! She did get back to work when she saw I was unhappy but the service from that point forward was poor.

The lady was clearly a rookie and I broke my rule of never picking the prettiest.

Number 875.

At 2PM visit. (This followed the same procedure as above but they took me to the Relaxation Room first. This is a room with three recliners and a TV. Spent probably 10 minutes there. No. 875 was recommended by management. Probably around 30 years old and a little on the heavy side. Not fat but carrying a few extra pounds. This lady was great. Hot water BBBJ, mish, cowgirl, very wet and hairy kitty. She took everything I could give her and seemed to want more. Finished after about 55 minutes. Followed by light massage and chair shower.

Number 886

1PM visit with only three ladies to pick from. Probably no more than 4'10' with a tight firm body. No BBBJ but she was able to put the condom on with her mouth. I wondered how she could take my cock. The answer was she put her hand on her hip which prevented me from making full penetration. Didn't feel all that great but I can't blame her.

Number 827.

Probably around thirty, big lady, fake boobs, excellent BBBJ. She sucked on my toes for a few minutes which actually felt pretty good. The second best of the four.

Good luck guys and have fun.

Coming to Shanghai soon. I have RTFF, Manhattan seems to be full of non-Chinese. So is there a similar bar where the Chinese girls can be found? And where? What should I pay?

Bodi and Merrilyn and Bodi seem to be prime targets, thanks guys.

[QUOTE=Jon Jones; 1200936]First I would like to thank the mongers who gave me excellent advise before my visit. This post is mainly for visitors but I hope it will answer most of the questions of first timers.

I don't speak or write a word of Chinese and the employees don't speak English but that didn't present a problem.

Now for some brief reviews:

Number 830.

Arrived around 9PM and picked from about 8 ladies. 830 was the cutest. Probably around 22or 23. Reddish brown hair. Service started out OK. (With each of the ladies I spent around 20-25 minutes in the wet room.)

Right after the wet room she motioned for me to get down on all fours and she rimmed me for about 2 or 3 minutes. Afterwards a BBBJCIM. So far so good. But she thought she was done for the session. She started to send texts, took a picture of her face which she said she sent to her boyfriend in the United States! She did get back to work when she saw I was unhappy but the service from that point forward was poor.

The lady was clearly a rookie and I broke my rule of never picking the prettiest.[/QUOTE]What feedback did you give management about 830? Did they understand your English?

Crappy service needs to be reported.

Just my opinion.

P13

[QUOTE=Joe Banana;1200924]I think I was probably pick pocketed in Manhatten recently, can vaguely remember when it might have happened as I talked to a small group of Filipinas. Luckily didn't lose wallet but just a few notes which I keep loose so as not to take the wallet out. Never had a problem there before so it is just a reminder to be careful.[/QUOTE]Stepping out of Malones into that gang of rats with tits who wait for drunks outside I had my loose money picked as well. I was so drunk they did it two times on seperate nights before I caught on. Three of them jump on you at once. One behind and one on each side. They will stuff your hand down their tops and try to get you to come for a blow job for 100 rmb.

They do not take your wallet, just the loose money. I guess they don't want to get the cops after them for taking credit cards and passports in wallets.

the risk of getting pick pocketed outside malone's and manhattan is very real. i got pick pocketed!

this is the first time i have ever been pick pocketed anywhere including the rest of asia and europe. these girls descend on you. 5-6 girls at a time, they unrelentingly offer you their services and molest you all over so you can't tell someone has their hand in your pocket. as soon as they have your money, they rep001ter like cockroaches in separate directions and they are gone in a flash. these girls are very experienced. it only takes a few seconds and you don't know they pick pocketed you until they are gone.

i was not even close to drunk.

yes, they could have easily stolen my wallet from my front pocket but that will get them arrested and thrown in jail.

be very careful out there!

mab

[QUOTE=Carage; 1200773]Spent another quality two hours at SiYuan.

The two hotties I selected happened to be "volunteered" from Xinyuping. I've never heard of Xinyuping, but the girls' description of the place got me really excited.

They have 200 girls (well, the stage can only fit about 60 70 girls at a time though) on duty. This sounds like HK / Macau to me. Wow! I never knew such a place exists in Shanghai.

But there are also downsides, I work in Lujiaozui, but the place is on Lianhua Road / YiShan Road, very far away indeed.

What's worse, is there is never enough rooms at the place. So even if someone goes during lunch hour, the waiting period could be 1 hour or more.

And the place is like 10 years old, so don't expect the same level of hardware quality at the newer joints.

Has anyone been to Xinyuping? Care to comment on the things I heard?

I sure don't want to be stuck in traffic, then be stuck in a waiting room for the whole afternoon.[/QUOTE]I know XinyuPing very well, it's inside a hotel complex at the back, near the corner you mentioned. It's also a bit far as you said.

You make your pick from behind one-sided glass. The selection you get is indeed pretty big, but because they all get squashed into such a tiny space, you can't see the girls on the back row very well, you only get to see the ones in front properly. Not sure there really are 200 girls there, but selection is quite large as stated. It's pretty busy all the time, there's no really good time to go, except maybe Sunday afternoon. Either way you'll probably have to wait for a room. It's not actually that old, but the rooms aren't terribly large either. Some feauture side and celing mirrors at the bed, some don't.

Competition to work here is fierce as this is probably the busiest place in Shanghai right now. That also means the girls are just there to make a buck, it'll be much harder to get any freebies or meetings outside with them as their attitude is usually pretty mercenary. If you just want a quick screw, you will find something you like though, for sure.

I didn't report it since it was my first visit. I would have if it was the last visit.

Jon.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1200979]What feedback did you give management about 830? Did they understand your English?

Crappy service needs to be reported.

Just my opinion.

P13[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JubbleFun; 1200942]Coming to Shanghai soon. I have RTFF, Manhattan seems to be full of non-Chinese. So is there a similar bar where the Chinese girls can be found? And where? What should I pay?

Bodi and Merrilyn and Bodi seem to be prime targets, thanks guys.[/QUOTE]For Chinese freelancers there is not a "crowdy" place like Manhattan for non-Chinese. You will find some in Xintiandi (Paulaner and Luna Bar) , than also in Malones, Judys and in the 88 Bar. 88 Bar has more young nice girls than Malones, but this place is more focused on Chinese customers, so without some Chinese skills, I would not go there to pick up a girl. Price for Chinese girls will be a little bit higher than non-Chinese in Manhattan, so should start with 1000, but the more pretty ones will try to get at least 2000 for a overnight session. Enjoy and good luck for your hunting!

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1199915]Hi Arizona, the page is.

[url]www.private-escort-shanghai.com[/url]

(phone: (0086) 136-41988600) , and if you call the number there, you will talk with Coco directly. I just had a chat with her some minutes ago, she told me very funny stories again. Some days ago she introduced a Chinese escort page to me and asked me, if I think this girls can be interesting. It looks great (a lot of girls, sometimes pictures look "real", also many girls with english skills) , so I told her this kind of girls can be perfect. Now we chatted again and she told me, she now applied for membership (RMB 300) and start to contact the girls. After two days now she find only 1 real student there. And allready more than 200 agencies. Seems to be a crazy scamming market, not only for us "weiguoren", but also for the Chinese people on Chinese webpages.[/QUOTE]Any of you guys would like to help me to find Chinese freelance girls in Shanghai? I am getting crazy now, because nearly all girls I find in the internet are incredibly overpriced (they think 2000 RMB for one hour is a normal price! But I know there are many girls outside only want 1000 to 2000 for the whole night!) I now tried to go out to the bars to find this kind of girls there, but because I am also a woman, they will not talk with me. Also when I start chatting, they are afraid I work for the police and go away very fast. I went to Zabata and Manhattan last weekend, but only a lot of men around me the whole night, but I did not get in touch with even one Chinese girl. So my idea now: If one of you guys can help me, I would be very happy. If you like, you can talk with girls you meet about join my webpage? Or perhaps we go out together and if you get in contact with real freelance girls, you introduce them to me?

I would be very thankfull for any help.

[QUOTE=Porky9; 1193445]Originally Posted by Lost In Shanghai

I think it is new. There is a BBS at about 936 Changle Road, between Wulumuqi and Changshu Roads. Walked by a couple of times and the ladies were trying to wave me in. Really handy to the Hilton. Go south on Changshu to Changle, and turn right. Look for the green foot massage sign.

Not exactly a BBS. They have 5ish beds separated by just curtains for HJ + pointless clothed massage. Heavy upsell on the 2 girls. FS didn't seem to be available. MPs or other BBSes in the area seem like a better plan.[/QUOTE]My rule is don't kiss and tell but here is the exception. Ok so I went and got a safe foot massage. I felt like I was walking on pillows after. There was a distinct upsell to pointless clothed massage. I had a really good looking girl to. So I went back a couple of days later for the whole show with the same girl.

Don't worry about the pointless clothed massage. It only lasts for 25-30 seconds. Next comes the upsell to two girls. The second girl suggested that I could feel her boobies. However I already figured out the a one girl massage would also include touching so I declined. I had the best looking girl there already and she nicely let me feel her while she did a gentle HJ. The other girls seemed charming also. What more can I say. This should make me a senior member.

Specifically what other bbs in the area seems like a better plan.

First of all thanks to all the fellow mongers' posts. They are all great advise and you've made this "hobby" much more enjoyable and safe. Now that I've had the chance to scope out a few saunas and find a couple of my favorites, I have another question for the seniors.

For those of you who have done it, how do you get the girls to meet you outside of the saunas? Either for freebies or at a discounted price, how do you get them to meet you outside on a regular basis? I know it's all about trust and need to see them a few times at the saunas, etc. But do they just not go for it in general? Or is this something that is pretty common and easily arranged? I had given one of them my cell number but she didn't call but I wasn't really expecting her to either.

I have these two girls (from separate establishments) that I would sure like to have regular take-outs if possible. At least until I'm ready for some fresh meat. Would anyone like to share some of your experiences? As usual, thanks for your comments and inputs.

Ps: I'm fluent in Chinese so language is not an issue.

Just because she fucks some one well doesn't mean she will fuck everyone well. She will have likes and dislikes. They will all fuck you but there is considerable variety in the quality of the fucking.

[QUOTE=Private Coco; 1201148]Any of you guys would like to help me to find Chinese freelance girls in Shanghai? I am getting crazy now, because nearly all girls I find in the internet are incredibly overpriced (they think 2000 RMB for one hour is a normal price! But I know there are many girls outside only want 1000 to 2000 for the whole night!) I now tried to go out to the bars to find this kind of girls there, but because I am also a woman, they will not talk with me. Also when I start chatting, they are afraid I work for the police and go away very fast. I went to Zabata and Manhattan last weekend, but only a lot of men around me the whole night, but I did not get in touch with even one Chinese girl. So my idea now: If one of you guys can help me, I would be very happy. If you like, you can talk with girls you meet about join my webpage? Or perhaps we go out together and if you get in contact with real freelance girls, you introduce them to me?

I would be very thankfull for any help.[/QUOTE]Try [url]http://www.aish002.com/forum-37-1.html[/url]

Enjoy, but will you report?

Cheers.

P13

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1201275]Try.

[url]http://www.aish002.com/forum-37-1.html[/url]

Enjoy, but will you report?

Cheers.

P13[/QUOTE]Hi P13,

Thank you for the link. I also liked the pictures and the girls there very much and I was really hoping to find some girls for good price there. The pictures look very normal and I was thinking they should also be real, so I contacted all this girls from aish002 by qq last weeks, but not find one there till now. A very disappointing experience! If you try to meet them or at least want to have QQ-Webcam, they will block you on qq or have a excuse, why they can not, so I am sure the pictures are fake. Another point is, most of them don`t want to meet any western customers (especially for outcall) , because they can not speak any english. Finally I met 3 of this QQ-Girls, but all 3 very ugly, nothing to do with the pictures, so no chance to send them out to any customer without trouble later. I still have a list from of QQ-Girls from other Chinese page, but I am afraid it will not be much better.

What are some areas with massage with nice girls + HJ / BJ? Someone mentioned the spinning barber shop type poles places? Closest train stop? I would like to just walk around and explore some areas on foot.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1201213]First of all thanks to all the fellow mongers' posts. They are all great advise and you've made this "hobby" much more enjoyable and safe. Now that I've had the chance to scope out a few saunas and find a couple of my favorites, I have another question for the seniors.

For those of you who have done it, how do you get the girls to meet you outside of the saunas? Either for freebies or at a discounted price, how do you get them to meet you outside on a regular basis? I know it's all about trust and need to see them a few times at the saunas, etc. But do they just not go for it in general? Or is this something that is pretty common and easily arranged? I had given one of them my cell number but she didn't call but I wasn't really expecting her to either.

I have these two girls (from separate establishments) that I would sure like to have regular take-outs if possible. At least until I'm ready for some fresh meat. Would anyone like to share some of your experiences? As usual, thanks for your comments and inputs.

Ps: I'm fluent in Chinese so language is not an issue.[/QUOTE]I think it is pretty common, and the girls will initiate the conversation if they are interested. But I'm Asian American, so things might be different.

After you become a regular at the sauna and reserve the same girl for a few times and she does not dislike you, usually she will offer to exchange phone numbers and / or MSN / QQ etc.

If she is serious, she will contact you. Sometimes at really weird times of the day. Like I once got a call for dinner at 2:30AM. I also got another offer to deflower some girl's cousin.

For security and privacy purposes, I almost always politely decline.

The girl's phone number only serves 3 purposes for me: 1. Find out if the place is open for business, especially if I hear news of raids going on 2. Minimize waiting time 3. Know who else is there if she is not available.

I'm not sure about success stories, but I have heard too many stories that did not go well. Usually once the monger and the girl starts meeting outside and start exchanging money, things go down the hill. Sooner or later, it's going to be the "my cousin / sibling / nephew / grandma / mother is hospitalized / in poverty / dead / missing" story, then the girl will ask for $$$$$$$. If you don't payup, then things might not be pretty. I know someone who lost his job because the girl decided to show up in his office one day and made a scene.

I believe the sauna management method exists for a reason (ie, keeping your wallet in the locker) , preventing private exchange of cash makes things much more easier for everyone.

I've decided to put my hypothesis to a test, and 881 is great! Nice body and superb skills.

Apparently she does not like working with other girls, and it shows. I'm glad that she performs much better alone.

She is not talkative, and decides to put her mouth to work wonders on the body.

Just beware that when she gives you a thorough service, there might not be enough "interaction" time for people who have slow-loading guns.

On a sidenote, the jacuzzi was lukewarm today. Had to ask the attendant to refill the pool with hot water.

Had my earwax cleaned afterwards, it appears the ear-cleaning lady at SiYuan does not offer the "kidney massage".

At least she did not offer to upsell.

Actually I haven't had much of a problem myself getting numbers / contact info from sauna girls either. And I've had a couple of girls with whom I got contact information on our first meeting (one in Macau and one in Zhuhai). Some of the things are out of your control. I'm Chinese-American, in good physical shape, not bad looking, and I can converse in fairly fluent Mandarin.

I'd guess communication is the first and biggest barrier. There's not much chance you're going to have any chemistry with the girl if you're relegated to using translation apps. For me it's pretty simple. Treat the girl with respect, make it clear you're having a good time, and show some interest in the girl as a person. Beyond that it's just luck, just like clicking with any other woman (except you're meeting sauna girls in a rather different circumstance).

AZ,

Have had numerous take outs from massage places. Freebies are tough, but discounts are done. Key is to build a relationship, discuss take away options, etc. I like to get thier phone number so I can text to see if she's working. This is good for arranging an in-house or a take away. With massage take away, I usually pay the standard fare to the house (discounted for a VIP card) , then tip up the girl 400. Total damage 700, but you get a nice couple hour no rush GFE FS in the privacy of your own place (treat them nice, through in a cocktail). Have also had girls who have changed estabishments come over after work, usually midnight or later based on their schedule and just tip them up, no house charge.

Overall not hard to arrange. I like to keep two or three rotating so that they know there is competition, thus do not get demanding or greedy.

SH

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1201213]First of all thanks to all the fellow mongers' posts. They are all great advise and you've made this "hobby" much more enjoyable and safe. Now that I've had the chance to scope out a few saunas and find a couple of my favorites, I have another question for the seniors.

For those of you who have done it, how do you get the girls to meet you outside of the saunas? Either for freebies or at a discounted price, how do you get them to meet you outside on a regular basis? I know it's all about trust and need to see them a few times at the saunas, etc. But do they just not go for it in general? Or is this something that is pretty common and easily arranged? I had given one of them my cell number but she didn't call but I wasn't really expecting her to either.

I have these two girls (from separate establishments) that I would sure like to have regular take-outs if possible. At least until I'm ready for some fresh meat. Would anyone like to share some of your experiences? As usual, thanks for your comments and inputs.

Ps: I'm fluent in Chinese so language is not an issue.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1201149] (in regards to the BBS at about 936 Changle Road, between Wulumuqi and Changshu Roads.)

However I already figured out the a one girl massage would also include touching so I declined. I had the best looking girl there already and she nicely let me feel her while she did a gentle HJ. The other girls seemed charming also. What more can I say. This should make me a senior member.

Specifically what other bbs in the area seems like a better plan?[/QUOTE]If it's just a HJ I'm looking for, I prefer a 'normal' MP like the one on wanhangdu Lu / wuning Lu. For basically the same money you get an 80 minute oil massage, similar looking girl, no negotiation aggravation, private room, and a shower before and afterward along with your HJ.

Most of the time "BBS" refers to place with FS girls like the ones off Dingxi. Similar money and FS action.

Long time lurker, first time poster here (hence the handle). Really want to thank all of the fellow hobbyist out there for all the information. Has made my global trotting adventures all the more bearable! I'm based out of Shanghai but spend time travelling around the major cities here in China.

Wanted to share my first report on a freelancer in Shanghai who I've been calling off and on over the last 4 years:

Name: Jolin.

Age: 25.

Stats: Some people have said 34C-25-35 (Enormous for a local Chinese, among my "conquests" I have not found bigger!) , but they look and feel more like D cups.

Language: Chinese only but open to foreign clients (sincere apologies to my darker friends, but she's worried about larger sized men!)

By no means skinny but definitely not pudgy. Whenever I start hankering for the big tits and an hourglass figure, she is my go-to girl. Looks are definitely above average.

Family left for the US on Tuesday and the fun began. Checked into a hotel room nearby the house after lunch and gave Jolin a call. Luckily she had not had any prior appointments arranged for that day and gave me ETA of 2pm. No problems with the hotel lobby and she was at my door right on the dot. Dressed to kill (black dress and tights) , I could not wait to get her clothes off so that I could bury myself in her enormous pillows of pleasure once again.

After exchanging our usual pleasantries and a short kiss, we took a shower to get cleaned up. Clothes off and I was greeted with her enormous titties all crammed into a tight and sexy bra. Did not take me long to sport a boner as we made out way to the bathroom.

Jolin is one of the cleanest girls I know (even if we do it twice, she takes another shower in between) without sacrificing the whole experience / atmosphere.

I fondled her breasts and nipples in the shower as she soaped me up and washed me down. I was already at full mast and I was hoping she would just start sucking me off there and then (maybe next time). Cleaned up I dried myself off and went to wait on the bed while she finished her shower.

On the bed it was controlled madness. Face down she started with a "water sucking" act where she filled her mouth with warm water and ran it all over my body. This was followed by a cat bath, lightly running her tongue over all the sensitive parts of my body. This was followed by a light massage which allowed me to cool down a bit. Asked me to flip over and the entire thing started over again.

From my thighs to my upper body, I finally received what I had been waiting for. Jolin sucks a great cock and knows how to alternate between sucking the head and deep throating. She also knows how to use that tongue to slather the shaft as she bobs up and down. I could feel my heart in my mouth as she carefully serviced me for 10 minutes. She won't stop unless you tell her to. Little did I know that was in for a treat this time!

All of a sudden she stopped the BBBJ and asked me to sit on the side of the bed. Kneeling in front of me she brought her huge breasts up and "swallowed" my cock, encasing my cock in her huge fleshy mounds. She started off with slow steady rhthm which escalated into a made frenzy of flying tits and nipples. Heaven.

I'm sure that most of you (hopefully) have enjoyed the pleasures of a tit job in China. A tit job in China is not usually a tit job because most girls don't have the size. I am by no means small (a lot of women tell me I am huge compared to locals) , but I've only found Jolin capable of giving me a world class tit job.

5 minutes later, I could not control myself any longer and asked her to cap me so we could begin with the main course. Tight (as usual) , I slowly edged myself in (missionary) and started pounding away. With all of the previous action, I could not hold myself for much longer and broke into a fast paced thrust. Balls slapping against her shapely ass it ook me a mere 10 minutes to unload.

I can tell you that we went for a 2nd round after that which included more nipple sucking (both hers and mine) , BBBJ (just mine.) cow girl and doggy. By the time she finished it was going on 5pm and I was absolutely wiped.

Have a few more days till the family returns so I will be calling her again tonight and the day after so I can get all of this Big-Tit hankering out of my system for a while! Previous sessions with her also included tit job to climax (probably for tonight).

Total damage was 1, 000 RMB for 2 times, at my door. Her usual price for one shot is 700 RMB, although I am certain that she provides her regulars with a slightly cheaper price.

That's my first report and I hope you guys enjoyed it. I'm writing this from the comfort of my hourly hotel room and while you're reading this (2 or 3 hours later from post) , I am most probably enjoying her huge titties again! Pics (real of course) attached.

[QUOTE=SilentJohn; 1201877]Long time lurker, first time poster here (hence the handle). Really want to thank all of the fellow hobbyist out there for all the information. Has made my global trotting adventures all the more bearable! I'm based out of Shanghai but spend time travelling around the major cities here in China.

Wanted to share my first report on a freelancer in Shanghai who I've been calling off and on over the last 4 years:

Name: Jolin.

Age: 25.

Stats: Some people have said 34C-25-35 (Enormous for a local Chinese, among my "conquests" I have not found bigger!) , but they look and feel more like D cups.

Language: Chinese only but open to foreign clients (sincere apologies to my darker friends, but she's worried about larger sized men!)

By no means skinny but definitely not pudgy. Whenever I start hankering for the big tits and an hourglass figure, she is my go-to girl. Looks are definitely above average.

Family left for the US on Tuesday and the fun began. Checked into a hotel room nearby the house after lunch and gave Jolin a call. Luckily she had not had any prior appointments arranged for that day and gave me ETA of 2pm. No problems with the hotel lobby and she was at my door right on the dot. Dressed to kill (black dress and tights) , I could not wait to get her clothes off so that I could bury myself in her enormous pillows of pleasure once again.

After exchanging our usual pleasantries and a short kiss, we took a shower to get cleaned up. Clothes off and I was greeted with her enormous titties all crammed into a tight and sexy bra. Did not take me long to sport a boner as we made out way to the bathroom.

Jolin is one of the cleanest girls I know (even if we do it twice, she takes another shower in between) without sacrificing the whole experience / atmosphere.

I fondled her breasts and nipples in the shower as she soaped me up and washed me down. I was already at full mast and I was hoping she would just start sucking me off there and then (maybe next time). Cleaned up I dried myself off and went to wait on the bed while she finished her shower.

On the bed it was controlled madness. Face down she started with a "water sucking" act where she filled her mouth with warm water and ran it all over my body. This was followed by a cat bath, lightly running her tongue over all the sensitive parts of my body. This was followed by a light massage which allowed me to cool down a bit. Asked me to flip over and the entire thing started over again.

From my thighs to my upper body, I finally received what I had been waiting for. Jolin sucks a great cock and knows how to alternate between sucking the head and deep throating. She also knows how to use that tongue to slather the shaft as she bobs up and down. I could feel my heart in my mouth as she carefully serviced me for 10 minutes. She won't stop unless you tell her to. Little did I know that was in for a treat this time!

All of a sudden she stopped the BBBJ and asked me to sit on the side of the bed. Kneeling in front of me she brought her huge breasts up and "swallowed" my cock, encasing my cock in her huge fleshy mounds. She started off with slow steady rhthm which escalated into a made frenzy of flying tits and nipples. Heaven.

I'm sure that most of you (hopefully) have enjoyed the pleasures of a tit job in China. A tit job in China is not usually a tit job because most girls don't have the size. I am by no means small (a lot of women tell me I am huge compared to locals) , but I've only found Jolin capable of giving me a world class tit job.

5 minutes later, I could not control myself any longer and asked her to cap me so we could begin with the main course. Tight (as usual) , I slowly edged myself in (missionary) and started pounding away. With all of the previous action, I could not hold myself for much longer and broke into a fast paced thrust. Balls slapping against her shapely ass it ook me a mere 10 minutes to unload.

I can tell you that we went for a 2nd round after that which included more nipple sucking (both hers and mine) , BBBJ (just mine.) cow girl and doggy. By the time she finished it was going on 5pm and I was absolutely wiped.

Have a few more days till the family returns so I will be calling her again tonight and the day after so I can get all of this Big-Tit hankering out of my system for a while! Previous sessions with her also included tit job to climax (probably for tonight).

Total damage was 1, 000 RMB for 2 times, at my door. Her usual price for one shot is 700 RMB, although I am certain that she provides her regulars with a slightly cheaper price.

That's my first report and I hope you guys enjoyed it. I'm writing this from the comfort of my hourly hotel room and while you're reading this (2 or 3 hours later from post) , I am most probably enjoying her huge titties again! Pics (real of course) attached.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information, I am heading to Shanghai in December, I am hoping you can share her contact information with me via a private message and I will give her a call.

As the family ETA closes in, wanted to share my exploits from last night.

As said in my last report, I had Jolin come across for another round of debauchery yesterday afternoon. Came on time as usual and was her regular bubbly self.

Started off with the usual fondling in the shower and a nice massage on the bed. After a lengthy cat bath and massage (with the hotel moisturiser) , asked me to flip over and the action started.

Having already blown two loads in her yesterday, I thought I would be able to last a little longer, however that was not the case! After 15 minutes of BBBJ I felt the regular stirrings and asked her to slow it down. Giving me a sly smile and a compliment (for even lasting that long) , she moved her mouth to my sack and started sucking and slurping on my balls. Watching her tits rub against my legs while she serviced me was nerve wrecking! Heaven. Heaven. Heaven.

She always seems to learn something new so this time throughout the oral service, she wrapped her hands around my base and was tantilizing me the entire time. Asked her where she learned to do that and she said she had friends in the industry.

Couldn't hold myself any longer and asked her to cap me. This time we started off cowgirl and I put hands behind my head and let her get to work. Nimble would probably be the best word to describe her as she continued to grind and hump me for the next 10 minutes. Switched to missionary and I started pounding away. Somehow the respite that I got from the ball sucking let me cool down a bit!

I wanted something different this time so I asked her to sit up and kneel beside the bed. Ripped the condom off and she knew immediately what to do. Giving me a nice sensuous blow job, I didn't even notice her grab the lubricant beside the bed. Sucked my cock head one last time and then proceeded to gel me up and place me between her huge titties! Like yesterday it was a flurry of flesh, nipples and mouth as she worked me to my climax.

Perhaps because I was controlling myself all the while, I needed a little more time to ejaculate and she was more than happy to alternate between the tit-job and a BBBJ. Nice.

Finally I couldn't hold myself and shot an enormous load between her tits and all over the front. Nice thing is that she didn't stop the motion as I was shooting.

A well spent 700 RMB for that afternoon, I thought I was finished until I received a text message shortly after she left (Not Jolin, but another one of my "freebies").

Anyway, Jolin said that I could share her information with the guys on this forum. As follows:

Name: Jolin.

Age: 25.

Tel: 18702164602.

Price: 700 RMB / 1 shot (she makes it count) and 1000 RMB for 2.

She only recently started with foreign clients so she's still tight as hell. If you do decide to call her, please be nice as she is a very sweet and honest girl. Tries hard to please and does not do the whole money grabber thing. My next post coming up soon.

Feel like a writing marathon here, but nothing compared to the sex marathon that I've been having over the last week!

As a lot of members here have said, if you are decent looking (above average) , or are rolling in dough (or both) , freebies are easy to find around the city. Over the last 5 years that I've been in Shanghai, my pool of women include sales girls, waitresses, clean massage girls and expat and local wives (sorry guys!). Probably the hottest experience that I've had was a Japanese housewife who was studying Chinese at a local university. Must have done her at least 200 times over the 12 months that she was here. Nothing was taboo. Korean women in Shanghai are easy bait as well. Always turns out to be quite a messy situation but the sex is usually worth it.

After Jolin left I received a text from a girl who had become to materialistic for my liking a few months back. Had started ignoring her but fate would have it, she had moved to another clean (regular) massage place and wanted me to come see her.

There is a long story between her and myself as I used to visit her old joint (before she went on leave for a year) which was the cleanest and most sex-free environment that you could possibly find. 2 massages and a dinner later, I had her back in my office one night where we went at it all over the meeting room. My suit and her clothes were all over the office and I hope the cleaning lady really wiped down the tables and walls the next day! If there is enough interest, I can write about that another day, although I get hard just thinking about it!

The girl is from Fujian province, about 5'2, 90lbs and the smallest waist that I have ever seen. Very nice. After the first time, she couldn't get enough and I would take my lunch breaks over at her house where she would moan and wail up a storm. For writing purposes, let's call her XC.

Once Jolin had left, I walked out, grabbed a box of chocolates, wrote a nice note and got into a cab. 20 minutes later I was at the front door where she and I played "strangers" in front of the receptionist. This new place is an upscale Chinese massage parlour with sanitary conditions and non-lockable doors. I started to question whether I would be able to get any loving this time around.

I didn't have to wait long for my answer. She squealed with delight when she saw her gift and started deep frenching me as the door shut. After 5 minutes of making out, she asked me to take a shower as she went to clock in with management.

She came back 5 minutes later, and the flimsy pair of shorts I was wearing was soon off and she was very quickly on her knees giving me my 2nd BBBJ of the day. This girl isn't shy and loves for me to play with her nipples as she goes at it. Shot load #1 right down her throat and she continued to nurse me with her mouth as I was pumped dry.

On the bed, I was trying to tease and titilate her as much as possible to get what I really wanted. I told her to put the oil away (I didn't come for a massage) and we spoke while fondling each other for the next 30 mins (I had booked a double oil massage session). Back to me, I used one hand to pinch and flick her nipples while the other to rub her clit. It was easy to see where this was leading.

It finally reached the point where she pulled off her underwear and spooned her ass against my again firm member. I had done her bare back the first time in the office (I know! Don't hate, I normally don't do anybody bare back and get tested on a regular basis) and it was obvious that she wanted to end her 5 month dry spell. I placed my cock suggestively at the bottom of her pussy and she slyly rubbed in back and forth, wet as a fountain.

She finally took a firm grip of my shaft and directed me in. Moaning and wimpering that it was too big and she had missed me, she slowly inched her nimble ass towards my stomach. Was fully inside of her within a minute.

What took place over the next 1 hour was some really passionate love making with her directing my hands all over her body till she climaxed. She must have cum about 8 times and each time had to stifle her screams with my hand, tongue or the towel. We kept going at it until she said she couldn't take anymore and as I couldn't cum inside her, she pulled me out and blew me again to completion.

Total cost was the two sessions (300 RMB) and a box of Godiva (150). Sorry about this one guys, but as she is more of a personal sex buddy than a provider, I won't be able to leak her details.

Hope you enjoyed the post!

[QUOTE=SilentJohn; 1202118]Feel like a writing marathon here, but nothing compared to the sex marathon that I've been having over the last week!

As a lot of members here have said, if you are decent looking (above average) , or are rolling in dough (or both) , freebies are easy to find around the city. Over the last 5 years that I've been in Shanghai, my pool of women include sales girls, waitresses, clean massage girls and expat and local wives (sorry guys!). Probably the hottest experience that I've had was a Japanese housewife who was studying Chinese at a local university. Must have done her at least 200 times over the 12 months that she was here. Nothing was taboo. Korean women in Shanghai are easy bait as well. Always turns out to be quite a messy situation but the sex is usually worth it.

Hope you enjoyed the post![/QUOTE]Great reports bro, you da man!

Hi All,

I am arriving in Shanghai on the 11th October. It's my first visit and I was looking into tasting the sauna Bodi and some KTV's. Although I'm fine about visiting Bodi by myself, I have heard that it's better to go to a KTV with an experienced friend / companion.

I'm a 34 year old guy, good self-confidence, love to have a laugh and got good experience from Bangkok so not a total newbie (!) , is there anyone who wants to have a fun night mongering in Shanghai? I'll be staying in the Xuhui district. I am leaving shanghai on the 15th October.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1201275]Try.

[url]http://www.aish002.com/forum-37-1.html[/url]

Enjoy, but will you report?

Cheers.

P13[/QUOTE]I have been trying the freelancer girl sites for the past few months but there are too many disappointments. Out of the 6 girls I decided to visit, only one turned out to be good. But the good ones are good and offer a very different feeling from sauna or BBS. I'd like to find a few to share those good info with.

I have been playing around with three girls from two different saunas in the past few months. Got their phone number after the first service and chat over SMS and a revisit to get their QQ. By the way, if you have a smart phone, get QQ. It helps a lot to keep in touch with the girls. I ended up taking one on a two days trip to Putuo Shan as she's into Buddhism. Putuo Shan turned out to be a great place for a short trip from Shanghai to take girls to. It's 40 minutes flight away from Shanghai. Good hotels and nice beaches. Best of all, it also doubled as a military base so there is a 8PM curfew on the island and all tourists have to get back to hotel by that time. A lot of time for fun at night in hotel room. .

I met them sometime outside of the establishments but I am sure to pay them all the same. When the girls are willing to go out with you, it's often about more then the money. They are looking for something more. I always make sure I am clear on that with them. It's fun to hang out but there is no future.

Overall, I'd say it's worth investing in time to get to know a few of them but make sure you are clear with the girls about the relationship. It never ends well if they have false hopes.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1201213]First of all thanks to all the fellow mongers' posts. They are all great advise and you've made this "hobby" much more enjoyable and safe. Now that I've had the chance to scope out a few saunas and find a couple of my favorites, I have another question for the seniors.

For those of you who have done it, how do you get the girls to meet you outside of the saunas? Either for freebies or at a discounted price, how do you get them to meet you outside on a regular basis? I know it's all about trust and need to see them a few times at the saunas, etc. But do they just not go for it in general? Or is this something that is pretty common and easily arranged? I had given one of them my cell number but she didn't call but I wasn't really expecting her to either.

I have these two girls (from separate establishments) that I would sure like to have regular take-outs if possible. At least until I'm ready for some fresh meat. Would anyone like to share some of your experiences? As usual, thanks for your comments and inputs.

Ps: I'm fluent in Chinese so language is not an issue.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1201149]My rule is don't kiss and tell but here is the exception. Ok so I went and got a safe foot massage. I felt like I was walking on pillows after. There was a distinct upsell to pointless clothed massage. I had a really good looking girl to. So I went back a couple of days later for the whole show with the same girl.

Don't worry about the pointless clothed massage. It only lasts for 25-30 seconds. Next comes the upsell to two girls. The second girl suggested that I could feel her boobies. However I already figured out the a one girl massage would also include touching so I declined. I had the best looking girl there already and she nicely let me feel her while she did a gentle HJ. The other girls seemed charming also. What more can I say. This should make me a senior member.

Specifically what other bbs in the area seems like a better plan.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. How much for the HJ?

Do you need to ask clothed massage?

I noticed seemingly a girl bar at jululu, near the hilton end. The glasses are smoked and it opens from 8pm to 4am.

Could this be a HJ bar? Has anyone tried? Little bit wary.

[QUOTE=Thekraz; 1149717]I have been frequenting a nice little Massage establishment that does a very nice HE.

Cnr of Wuning Nan Road and Wanhangdu Road, Jing An, just 5 min walk down Wanhangdu Road from Jing An Temple. Look for a little alleyway with the word Massage over the arch. Down the alley you will see "24hr Massage" prominently displayed.

Clean, with a shower and delightful girls.

208 RMB for the massage. 100 RMB for the HE and a further 100 RMB for the girls to strip down[/QUOTE]After RTFF here is the address and description for this MP. I went there without directions the other day and couldn't find it.

[QUOTE=Steven Long; 1198958]You can contact Candy. I know her and had some dates with her and she is also doing this "more days business" and her rate is ok. Only problem is, her english is more basic than great. But some other skills are more great than basic. You can contact her on QQ to check her before you arrive. I allready told her she should register a MSN Account, if she want to get in contact with foreigners, so could be she also start to use that. You can find her picture and profile here:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/independent-escort/shanghai-real-girls/high-class-candy/[/url]

Also with her personal phone number and e-mail adress. And she is definitly no a agency or a fake. Enjoy your time and don`t forget to place a report here to tell us about your experience.[/QUOTE]I have read some comments here about Candy. As I made a very very positive experience last week and would like to give also my feedback about her.

I just can say that her profile (photo + text) has completely matched my expectations on the real girl coming through the door into my hotel room. She is really a pretty and cute girl! She has beautiful long hair and a very sexy body with nice curves, what I often don't see at Chinese girls. She is not so shy, she likes talking (. I understood her English very well.) and making somewhat fun by also yoking around. I liked that, because it gave a nice atmosphere and she was not only focussed on going into bed making her job and leave. Later in bed she gave me a great enjoyable time. She knows how to make a man completely happy. Overall I can fully recommend her as she is by 100% a natural, sweet and NOT cheating girl and she kept what she has promised! I would like to see her again when I come back to Shanghai.

[QUOTE=JeromeChanel; 1202441]Thanks for the report. How much for the HJ?

Do you need to ask clothed massage?[/QUOTE]It was 200 rmb for the 1 minute massage and then a slow HJ. It is a small shop with only curtains around the beds so I didn't ask for topless or nude. She made her breast readily available.

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1202468]After RTFF here is the address and description for this MP. I went there without directions the other day and couldn't find it.[/QUOTE]Try this. Look on Google Maps where Wuning South (not Wuding) dead ends at Wanhangdu. There's a traffic light at that intersection. Right at that traffic light on the south side of Wanhangdu there is a spinning green foot massage barber pole next to an alley. Down the alley there is a sign "24 hour massage". It's right down the alley at that sign. Ask for the 80 minute 208 RMB oil massage. HE seems to be included in the 208. If its your first time, asking for her to get her top up for 100 tip seems easy. Haven't personally gotten bottomless there but others have so it probably depends on the girl and whether you are a frequent customer or not.

If you still can't find it, there are two more MPs in the area that seem to be owned by the same people. There is one on Yuyuan about 200 meters West of Wanhangdu (where the Paramount dance club is). On the right side of a set of shops there are stairs going up on the North Side of the street. It's pretty well marked and says "24 hour massage" on the stairs in pink. Went there once. Same deal though the service wasn't as good so haven't been back. Might have just been that girl though.

Second MP is at the corner of Beijing Road and Wanhangdu Road. Northwest corner. No barber pole but there is a vertical pink sign that has the word massage misspelled. Haven't been in there but it has the same color scheme as the other two so I suspect they are related. Anyone been there? Might have to give it a try for the team.

[QUOTE=FunkyMike1978; 1202578]I have read some comments here about Candy. As I made a very very positive experience last week and would like to give also my feedback about her.

I just can say that her profile (photo + text) has completely matched my expectations on the real girl coming through the door into my hotel room. She is really a pretty and cute girl! She has beautiful long hair and a very sexy body with nice curves, what I often don't see at Chinese girls. She is not so shy, she likes talking (. I understood her English very well.) and making somewhat fun by also yoking around. I liked that, because it gave a nice atmosphere and she was not only focussed on going into bed making her job and leave. Later in bed she gave me a great enjoyable time. She knows how to make a man completely happy. Overall I can fully recommend her as she is by 100% a natural, sweet and NOT cheating girl and she kept what she has promised! I would like to see her again when I come back to Shanghai.[/QUOTE]No offense 'bro', but such a gushing (first) post about any-thing has almost zero credibility here.

[QUOTE=Porky9;1202672]Try this. Look on Google Maps where Wuning South (not Wuding) dead ends at Wanhangdu.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's where I went wrong. I was on Wuding instead of Wuning. That's what I put on the map I made. Thanks for your post.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1202713]No offense 'bro', but such a gushing (first) post about any-thing has almost zero credibility here.[/QUOTE]I am a honest German guy, who does not mess around.

Okay I am a Newbie, but I just want to confirm what Steve wrote and also give my feedback of my personal experience with Candy that's all.

Patrolled the Tai'erzhuang Road to Jiaodong Road to Pingdu Road BBS corridor tonight, aprox. 50% of BBS's operating. Seeking some MILF action, I chose a BBS on the corner of Pingdu & Jiaodong Rds. It's right next to a pet shop. Facility is good, relatively clean, action takes place upstairs way in the back. Hard walls separate the 'rooms'.

First up was a late 30's taitai who was sweet and patient with my horrible Mandarin. Nicely tried to up sell a second woman which I initially declined, but accepted later (after f*cking her for 20mins without cumming). Second lady was a bit younger (and larger) , which was fine with me too (great areolas and a prettier face). Finally got off and hung out for a bit in the 'lobby' with all of them. They're all pretty sweet and have good sense of humor.

Damage for 2 was RMB500, I know I paid the Laowei tax, but I'm in the holiday spirit today.

[QUOTE=FunkyMike1978; 1202578]I have read some comments here about Candy. As I made a very very positive experience last week and would like to give also my feedback about her.

I just can say that her profile (photo + text) has completely matched my expectations on the real girl coming through the door into my hotel room. She is really a pretty and cute girl! She has beautiful long hair and a very sexy body with nice curves, what I often don't see at Chinese girls. She is not so shy, she likes talking (. I understood her English very well.) and making somewhat fun by also yoking around. I liked that, because it gave a nice atmosphere and she was not only focussed on going into bed making her job and leave. Later in bed she gave me a great enjoyable time. She knows how to make a man completely happy. Overall I can fully recommend her as she is by 100% a natural, sweet and NOT cheating girl and she kept what she has promised! I would like to see her again when I come back to Shanghai.[/QUOTE]This is should go in the "advertisements" section.

"yoking around". .

Just my opinion.

P13

So I spent a couple weekends in Hongqiao. As I said under the hotel section, I did not partake as the freebies I am getting wear me out. (3-4 times in a night is enough thank you!) I know I am showing my age. I could not do this if this girl was not such a pile of energy. Maybe I will write a report on here someday, but my strong feelings right now, make it difficult for me to do so.

Anyway. There is a circular building next to the Sheraton that has 3 MPS. The one of the first floor offered me a "special Massage" if you wantto check it out. The girls werew 6s or so.

I also took a walk down Gubei road. On the left hand side nexto to the Brawway hotel (spelling?) is a MP. There is a girl that stands in the doorway in a short Miniskirt. I went upstairs and saw 3-4 girls in the hallway all in plad miniskirts. I did not have time to try them out, but I beleive there is a HJ lurking in there. If someone has time, check it out and let us know.

Hey guys,

Thanks for all your replies. Much appreciated. I will try some what some of you suggested and give a report if I end up scoring a take out.

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=Jman90024; 1202324]I have been playing around with three girls from two different saunas in the past few months. Got their phone number after the first service and chat over SMS and a revisit to get their QQ. By the way, if you have a smart phone, get QQ. It helps a lot to keep in touch with the girls. I ended up taking one on a two days trip to Putuo Shan as she's into Buddhism. Putuo Shan turned out to be a great place for a short trip from Shanghai to take girls to. It's 40 minutes flight away from Shanghai. Good hotels and nice beaches. Best of all, it also doubled as a military base so there is a 8PM curfew on the island and all tourists have to get back to hotel by that time. A lot of time for fun at night in hotel room. .

I met them sometime outside of the establishments but I am sure to pay them all the same. When the girls are willing to go out with you, it's often about more then the money. They are looking for something more. I always make sure I am clear on that with them. It's fun to hang out but there is no future.

Overall, I'd say it's worth investing in time to get to know a few of them but make sure you are clear with the girls about the relationship. It never ends well if they have false hopes.[/QUOTE]

Establishment. Sacrosa.

Day. A few Saturdays ago.

Time. 1400hrs.

Name. Yang Yang.

Tag #.328 (I think)

Looks. 7.

Body. 5.5.

Service / Attitude. 8/9 (warm up SOP, AR, BBBJ, DATY, mish, cowgirl, doggie. 2 shots)

This place in my opinion provides the best "bang for the buck". Selection was pretty good, around 10 girls, ranging from 6 to 8 in looks. It's a bit awkward with them lining up just 3 feet in front of you rather than the fish bowl setting. It was the tattoo above her breast that made me pick her. Something about women with a few tattoo's at the right places just get me going. She's on the heavy side, but that doesn't bother me. More cushin' for the pushin'.

The warm up's pretty SOP. Hot cold water, titty massage, then come the AR. Ok guys, I know some of you aren't into this, but if you're one of those who are, she'd be the right girl. No need to get too graphic here, but she was so good I had her spent a good 10 mins doing AR before going to BBBJ.

The BBBJ is also above average. She alternates between sucking hard on the head, bobbing up and down, and the occasional deep throat. She won't stop until you ask her to, she seems to love to blow. Tapped her on the ass, and motioned for her to straddle my face, no need for a 2nd invitation, we were in the 69 position. She's not completely shaven, but well trimmed.

Covers went on and we did it in multiple positions. Didn't last that long and finished in my favorite doggie position. She will let you lead, whatever position you want, I tried mish, cowgirl, and doggie.

She cleaned me up and we chatted while fondling with each other. I speak Mandarin so it was a pretty good chat. I should have asked for her number.

Round 2 started with more BBBJ and 69. This time she added balls sucking and HJ. Finished that way.

Would try again, but maybe not right away. There are more selections at this establishment.

Soaked in the hot tub for about 15 mins, left before 1600hr.

Damage. 580RMB

Hi guys. Will be visiting shanghai for like a day in a weeks time! Would really love a girl on girl threesome / show. Any help would be amazing guys since I really don't have time to scout around! Heard there were a few options this side of the country! Went to Guangzhou and yiwu befor but there were really day! Please help me out if any tips guys! Thanks a lot guys in advance.

Dan

It's a long time since I paid Xietu Lu a visit so went for it the other day.

The place formally known as Peacock on 1449 Xietu Lu has changed name (can't remember the new English name though).

But the rest of the set-up is quite the same.

298 RMB – Aroma therapy & prostate massage: this will get you a private room, mirror in the ceiling, massage bed, private shower and a nice sensual oil massage with a HE.

A funny thing is that they have started to have you to wear disposable shorts, but half way into the massage, when you are lay on your stomach, they rip them completely open between your legs, leaving you with a blue 'free access skirt'.

I got a happy camper from Hunan, a bit above average in looks and very skilled in her trade including a very nice prostate massage on top of all other sensual stuff. A bit into the massage she also asked me if I wanted to have a tit-massage for another additional 100. As she had a very nice and firm C-Rack I couldn't resist. The whole thing turned out to be one of the best 'Spanish' massages I ever had, me on my back finishing off between her lovely tits soaked in oil.

There are now one or two places less in that area, but still 3 places in operation within 200 meters.

Definitely well worth the visit!

-T still Cruzn'

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1202983]So I spent a couple weekends in Hongqiao. As I said under the hotel section, I did not partake as the freebies I am getting wear me out. (3-4 times in a night is enough thank you!) I know I am showing my age. I could not do this if this girl was not such a pile of energy. Maybe I will write a report on here someday, but my strong feelings right now, make it difficult for me to do so.

Anyway. There is a circular building next to the Sheraton that has 3 MPS. The one of the first floor offered me a "special Massage" if you wantto check it out. The girls werew 6s or so.

I also took a walk down Gubei road. On the left hand side nexto to the Brawway hotel (spelling?) is a MP. There is a girl that stands in the doorway in a short Miniskirt. I went upstairs and saw 3-4 girls in the hallway all in plad miniskirts. I did not have time to try them out, but I beleive there is a HJ lurking in there. If someone has time, check it out and let us know.[/QUOTE]I will check that area out since I live in Hong-qiao / Ming-Hang district.

Hello, Guys and girls (maybe)

I am new to Shanghai. Just arrived from Bangkok (oh so cheap there).

I live near Shanghai Zoo. I went wondering last night, and found the pink shops. I asked the price. I was quoted 400, I asked three shops same price.

I was wondering is this the usual price or is it the beginning white guy price?

I have search and read some replies but not clear, and one guy mentioned price going up.

Second question it is for FS, can you talk them into giving them oral?

Regards,

Danny

I've been to Hailang a couple times recently and would say that the facilities and the choice of girls are quite good (at least 15 whenever I go there).

What I like the most is it's an aquarium type, where the girls cannot see you (confirmed by several girls I had) , so you can spend time to make your selection, without feeling uncomfortable in front of all the girls looking at you. The cost is 800 RMB for 1 hour.

Here are the few girls I had recently:

#906. She's one of my favorite.

Look: 7.

Boobs: 9 (with silicon)

Body: 8 (nice curve)

BBJ: 7.

FS: 8 (natural moaning)

DFK: 9 (She kisses really well)

GF: 8.

#925. Service oriented.

Look: 7.

Boobs: 8.

Body: 8 (nice curve)

BBJ: 7.

FS: 8 (natural moaning)

DFK: No.

GF: 8.

#981. From Fujian. Very rare to find a Fujian girl in Shanghai.

Look: 7.

Boobs: 9 (Natural nice and big)

Body: 8 (nice curve)

BBJ: 7.

FS: 8 (with 2 pops). As soon as you enter, she will play with you and ask to do her right away.

DFK: No.

GF: 8.

Overall, I'm always quite satisfied with Hailang.

[QUOTE=RotoDanny; 1203331]Hello, Guys and girls (maybe)

I am new to Shanghai. Just arrived from Bangkok (oh so cheap there).

I live near Shanghai Zoo. I went wondering last night, and found the pink shops. I asked the price. I was quoted 400, I asked three shops same price.

I was wondering is this the usual price or is it the beginning white guy price?

I have search and read some replies but not clear, and one guy mentioned price going up.

Second question it is for FS, can you talk them into giving them oral?

Regards,

Danny[/QUOTE]By 'Pink Shops' I assume you mean BBS? Were they quoting 400 for (one girl) FS? If so, then definitely sounds like the Laowei price. You should be able to work them down. In my experience, they always lead (meaning that's the first thing they offer, and I need to ask for FS) with oral, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Bottom line, if they won't come down from 400, take a trip to Sacrosa (many reports here) and get FS/oral/better environment for 580.

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1203377]By 'Pink Shops' I assume you mean BBS? Were they quoting 400 for (one girl) FS? If so, then definitely sounds like the Laowei price. You should be able to work them down. In my experience, they always lead (meaning that's the first thing they offer, and I need to ask for FS) with oral, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Bottom line, if they won't come down from 400, take a trip to Sacrosa (many reports here) and get FS / oral / better environment for 580.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mike. I will talk them down.

They look mixed age. Around 200 do you think?

When I want MILF / bbw there is an bbw / MILF hairdresser that does FS / oral for 150.

Cheers Mate

I've RTFF and could not find the phone number for Sacrosa. Does anyone have it? Need to call to see if one of the girls is working on my next visit. Thanks!

I have spent some time in the Gubei Lu area. There are some BBS on Maotai Lu (intersects with Gubei Lu) where the Brawway hotel is located. I have had some happy endings in some of them in the past. Some of them give a great clothed body massage for about 40 RMB including back walking and sometimes a HE in your pants.

There is also a nice looking massage place nearby on Gubei Lu but I have not explored it. It is always busy with locals so it may be a good sauna to try.

There are other locations in the general area if you keep your eyes open. I found FS for 300 (laowai price included) nearby on the Jiangjiang Lu.

Be safe out there.

[QUOTE=PlayaPan;1203249]I will check that area out since I live in Hong-qiao / Ming-Hang district.[/QUOTE]

Back in Shanghai this week, visited old friends at the newly refurbished "Le Le Spa" in Laoshan Lu, (Totally gutted and rebuilt, really smart!) where we recently translated the menu card. Checking the card out, I found a series of numbers underneath, which I understood to be discounts for using pre-pay VIP cards. The figures seemed very trivial, being 8, 7.5, 7.6, and finally 5. I queried this, as I always receive 20% discount, topping up my card to 1000rmb from time to time. I was surprised to learn, that in China, the discount figure is not a true percentage, but a rate out of ten, thus the menu actually reads,

Prepay 1000. 8, you are charged 80% of the price on the menu card!

Prepay 2000. 7.5% you are charged 75% of the price on the menu card!

And so on, to:

Prepay 10000. 5, you are charged 50% of the price on the menu card!

Wth full body oil massage priced on the card at 298 for 90 minutes, considering the pleasant ambiance, a good deal for this area.

Rooms are as nice as any five star hotel room in town, including a shower and western w. See, important to some of us! .

Sorry this wasn't intended as an advertisement, perhaps I'm the only guy in town who didn't understand those discount figures!

Fz

Based on the description below, I stopped by. Place is now called Rainbow, and your mileage will definitely vary. I'm sure it is same place, as address is clear. Requested the Aroma Therapy & Prostate Massage. Got neither. I'm sure I got a different girl. What I did get was a lackluster oil massage, a lot of "bu ke ye" no touching feedback, and an ordinary hand release. Actually, the girl was a little scary. Seemed to have it in her mind to make me her boyfriend, and wanted to cuddle on the foot massage chair after I got dressed, and didn't want me to go when I got really bored.

[QUOTE=A-Todd; 1203177]It's a long time since I paid Xietu Lu a visit so went for it the other day.

The place formally known as Peacock on 1449 Xietu Lu has changed name (can't remember the new English name though).

But the rest of the set-up is quite the same.

298 RMB – Aroma therapy & prostate massage: this will get you a private room, mirror in the ceiling, massage bed, private shower and a nice sensual oil massage with a HE.

A funny thing is that they have started to have you to wear disposable shorts, but half way into the massage, when you are lay on your stomach, they rip them completely open between your legs, leaving you with a blue 'free access skirt'.

I got a happy camper from Hunan, a bit above average in looks and very skilled in her trade including a very nice prostate massage on top of all other sensual stuff. A bit into the massage she also asked me if I wanted to have a tit-massage for another additional 100. As she had a very nice and firm C-Rack I couldn't resist. The whole thing turned out to be one of the best 'Spanish' massages I ever had, me on my back finishing off between her lovely tits soaked in oil.

There are now one or two places less in that area, but still 3 places in operation within 200 meters.

Definitely well worth the visit!

-T still Cruzn'[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RotoDanny; 1203396]Thanks Mike. I will talk them down.

They look mixed age. Around 200 do you think?

When I want MILF / bbw there is an bbw / MILF hairdresser that does FS / oral for 150.

Cheers Mate[/QUOTE]For sure bro, 200 is a good number. Don't forget the BBW, big girls need luvin' too!

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao; 1203606]Back in Shanghai this week, visited old friends at the newly refurbished "Le Le Spa" in Laoshan Lu, (Totally gutted and rebuilt, really smart!) where we recently translated the menu card. Checking the card out, I found a series of numbers underneath, which I understood to be discounts for using pre-pay VIP cards. The figures seemed very trivial, being 8, 7.5, 7.6, and finally 5. I queried this, as I always receive 20% discount, topping up my card to 1000rmb from time to time. I was surprised to learn, that in China, the discount figure is not a true percentage, but a rate out of ten, thus the menu actually reads,

Prepay 1000. 8, you are charged 80% of the price on the menu card!

Prepay 2000. 7.5% you are charged 75% of the price on the menu card!

And so on, to:

Prepay 10000. 5, you are charged 50% of the price on the menu card!

Wth full body oil massage priced on the card at 298 for 90 minutes, considering the pleasant ambiance, a good deal for this area.

Rooms are as nice as any five star hotel room in town, including a shower and western w. See, important to some of us! .

Sorry this wasn't intended as an advertisement, perhaps I'm the only guy in town who didn't understand those discount figures!

Fz[/QUOTE]But if they go broke, you have lost your (remaining) money.

Just my experience.

P13

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1203019]Establishment. Sacrosa.

Day. A few Saturdays ago.

Time. 1400hrs.

Name. Yang Yang.

Tag. 328 (I think)

Looks. 7.

Body. 5.5.

Service / Attitude. 8/9 (warm up SOP, AR, BBBJ, DATY, mish, cowgirl, doggie. 2 shots)

This place in my opinion provides the best "bang for the buck". Selection was pretty good, around 10 girls, ranging from 6 to 8 in looks. It's a bit awkward with them lining up just 3 feet in front of you rather than the fish bowl setting. It was the tattoo above her breast that made me pick her. Something about women with a few tattoo's at the right places just get me going. She's on the heavy side, but that doesn't bother me. More cushin' for the pushin'.

The warm up's pretty SOP. Hot cold water, titty massage, then come the AR. Ok guys, I know some of you aren't into this, but if you're one of those who are, she'd be the right girl. No need to get too graphic here, but she was so good I had her spent a good 10 mins doing AR before going to BBBJ.

The BBBJ is also above average. She alternates between sucking hard on the head, bobbing up and down, and the occasional deep throat. She won't stop until you ask her to, she seems to love to blow. Tapped her on the ass, and motioned for her to straddle my face, no need for a 2nd invitation, we were in the 69 position. She's not completely shaven, but well trimmed.

Covers went on and we did it in multiple positions. Didn't last that long and finished in my favorite doggie position. She will let you lead, whatever position you want, I tried mish, cowgirl, and doggie.

She cleaned me up and we chatted while fondling with each other. I speak Mandarin so it was a pretty good chat. I should have asked for her number.

Round 2 started with more BBBJ and 69. This time she added balls sucking and HJ. Finished that way.

Would try again, but maybe not right away. There are more selections at this establishment.

Soaked in the hot tub for about 15 mins, left before 1600hr.

Damage. 580RMB[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report. Just out of curiosity:

1. How long was your session?

2. How you insist on a 2nd pop or she just went with it when you ask?

3. It used to be crazily crowded. How was it when you were there?

Cheers

I had a chance to check out Bodhi and the reopened Siyuan over the last couple of days. Siyuan is as mentioned by many others. Clean and new facility. The pool is smaller than the ones in Bodhi but it has a small fishbowl. The waiting room I was in is big enough for 3, new obviously and I don't care much otherwise. Girl selection was pretty horrible. Two youngish looking whom the manager kept pushing. One girl was in see through fishnet and practically half naked. Nice but she was on the chubby side. I ended up with this petite Dongbei girl. Soapie and the standard service. She is pretty new in this (as was mentioned) and was just going through the motion. The AR was mildly enjoyable but it was pretty forgettable. Didn't bother to remember her number but she does sigh / talk in this moaning tone. I find it annoying but some may like that. I really like the location but the selection / service isn't worth the 880 it is charging. The superstars some of you mentioned weren't there. I hope it was because of the holiday and things will get better.

Bodhi is hard to get to but at least I can count on selection and service. The couple of Chinese gentlemen in front of me snatch up the nice ones (including one with the red tag). I ended up with another petite dongbei girl. Nice chat and nice service. I would have repeated but she was apparently leaving for home, either for good or for the holiday only. She claimed to be a star in 999 before she transferred to Bodhi. Shame I enjoy her service. I went there in the evening right before the holiday. Seemed to be half full. Selection was good as there must be 50ish girls. At last a couple of them were standing behind everyone else. Saw a couple of 8 but some of them really shouldn't be there.

In both cases, only one pop. Didn't insist on a 2nd since the Siyuan girl wasn't all that great to start with and it was late in my Bodhi excursion. Both sessions seem to last about 60 mins, even in non-peak hours. I guess I need to go back and find out what's going on.

[QUOTE=Arizona123;1203551]I've RTFF and could not find the phone number for Sacrosa. Does anyone have it? Need to call to see if one of the girls is working on my next visit. Thanks![/QUOTE]021-58352261 Be sure they understand you. I did this a couple of times and once they or I made a mistake about her name or number. Probably my accent.

1. She started dressing me up after 70 minutes, there was still some chit chat going on while dressing so I'd say 75 minutes maybe?

2. I did not ask for 2nd, she volunteered. But I speak Mandarin so maybe the "chemistry" was there? Is 2nd pop not the norm here? Someone please verify, I don't know the answer.

3. It was 2pm on a Saturday. My girl just started her shift, I was her first customer. There was 1 other guy I saw before the action. I saw 5-6 guys going through the shower after I was done and was soaking in the hot tub.

[QUOTE=Mike666; 1203736]Thanks for your report. Just out of curiosity:

1. How long was your session?

2. How you insist on a 2nd pop or she just went with it when you ask?

3. It used to be crazily crowded. How was it when you were there?

Cheers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1203792]021-58352261 Be sure they understand you. I did this a couple of times and once they or I made a mistake about her name or number. Probably my accent.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the number.

I read somewhere here that if you call a spa before hand and ask for the girl (skipping the line up or fishbowl) , she will get a bigger cut. Is that true?

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1203883]1. She started dressing me up after 70 minutes, there was still some chit chat going on while dressing so I'd say 75 minutes maybe?

2. I did not ask for 2nd, she volunteered. But I speak Mandarin so maybe the "chemistry" was there? Is 2nd pop not the norm here? Someone please verify, I don't know the answer.

3. It was 2pm on a Saturday. My girl just started her shift, I was her first customer. There was 1 other guy I saw before the action. I saw 5-6 guys going through the shower after I was done and was soaking in the hot tub.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answers. I haven't been there for a long time so I can't say about 2 pops. Long time ago (2 plus yrs) , the girls would mostly offer you 2 without any problems. Then the place got popular and management basically decided to cut back.

Ya that's typically the case. I think for the sauna it encourages better service from the girls.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1203884]Thanks for the number.

I read somewhere here that if you call a spa before hand and ask for the girl (skipping the line up or fishbowl) , she will get a bigger cut. Is that true?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1203884]Thanks for the number.

I read somewhere here that if you call a spa before hand and ask for the girl (skipping the line up or fishbowl) , she will get a bigger cut. Is that true?[/QUOTE]In Chinese, it is called dianzhong (&28857; &38047. You can call ahead or just tell the receptionist the number. Don't do it after you get in the locker area or it doesn't count. Not only does the girl get more, but she is supposed to cultivate returning customers. Girls who don't meet a quota of returning customers may get fined. Cheers

Out of curiosity, how does one read the &28857; &38047; & numbers? I do read Chinese very well but clueless with the technology (can't even text worth a shit) and I'm guessing this has something to do with texting?

[QUOTE=Mike666;1204063]In Chinese, it is called dianzhong (&28857; &38047. You can call ahead or just tell the receptionist the number. Don't do it after you get in the locker area or it doesn't count. Not only does the girl get more, but she is supposed to cultivate returning customers. Girls who don't meet a quota of returning customers may get fined. Cheers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Danny Yu; 1203173]Hi guys. Will be visiting shanghai for like a day in a weeks time! Would really love a girl on girl threesome / show. Any help would be amazing guys since I really don't have time to scout around! Heard there were a few options this side of the country! Went to Guangzhou and yiwu befor but there were really day! Please help me out if any tips guys! Thanks a lot guys in advance.

Dan[/QUOTE]Forget it, China's not _that_ liberal (yet) It is possible to get a 3-some experience, but girl-on-girl is very rare (and I do mean USA in the 1950's rare). You'll need to wait at least 1 or 2 more generations of girls to grow up for that.

L

[QUOTE=Laowei137; 1204219]Forget it, China's not _that_ liberal (yet) It is possible to get a 3-some experience, but girl-on-girl is very rare (and I do mean USA in the 1950's rare). You'll need to wait at least 1 or 2 more generations of girls to grow up for that.

L[/QUOTE]L's right, even when you get pros (FL's or spa girls) to 'team' up, they usually only work on you and not on each other. Maybe someday, we can dream!

[QUOTE=Arizona123;1204165]Out of curiosity, how does one read the &28857; &38047; & numbers? I do read Chinese very well but clueless with the technology (can't even text worth a shit) and I'm guessing this has something to do with texting?[/QUOTE]Something wrong with the pinyin coding. Unfortunately I don't know how to fix it. If you really want to know the characters, pm me. Cheers

[QUOTE=Laowei137; 1204219]Forget it, China's not _that_ liberal (yet) It is possible to get a 3-some experience, but girl-on-girl is very rare (and I do mean USA in the 1950's rare). You'll need to wait at least 1 or 2 more generations of girls to grow up for that.

L[/QUOTE]Hahaha thanks a lot bro! At least we got that clear! You mean even the escort agencies won't be able to hook me up?

Anyways can you recommend a single place thats guranteed service? Just want a clean hot session since I don't have much time and have read loads of mixed reviews on most places.

Thanks!

I used to think,"Why come to Shanghai and go out with Vietnamese girls instead of Chinese." My first experience with one last year was that she or they were a little hard edged and "The meter is running baby." That was an over generalization to say the least. This year I have had history making sexploits with a couple of them from Manhattan. I think we are friends now.

I used to think of Manhattan as being a "meat market" where the girls would attack you like pirania so I avoided it except for a beer once a year. I've been having a good time there lately though. Last night (Saturday) at 11 p.m. there were twice as many males as females there. Then the girls started arriving. By 12 a.m. There were 4-5 girls for each boy and the place was in a white heat. You could feel the sex. The singing duet was good to, but between their sets the recorded music was too loud to talk.

So instead of being a snob I've done myself a favour and changed my thinking. Manhattan and the girls there are just a fact of and an asset to the the Shanghai scene.

Don't tell my Chinese girlfriends I said this.

[QUOTE=Laowei137; 1204219]Forget it, China's not _that_ liberal (yet) It is possible to get a 3-some experience, but girl-on-girl is very rare (and I do mean USA in the 1950's rare). You'll need to wait at least 1 or 2 more generations of girls to grow up for that.

L[/QUOTE]I had some good luck a few years back with a filipina girl from (the older) Manhattan. In the course of getting to know her, I learned that she liked girls too. She picked her favorite from the girls there, and off we went. I even photographed them. The photos might still be on the forum, you might search for them. She was very hot, cute, and she and her friend liked licking each other as much as they liked screwing me (ha, probably more.) Unfortunately she is long gone from China.

The moral: try non-Chinese Asians, you might have better luck in finding a bi girl.

Update: Here's the link to the photos: http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?3013-2007-East-China-Shanghai&p=568908&viewfull=1#post568908

GM

[QUOTE=Gualtier Malde; 1204650]I had some good luck a few years back with a filipina girl from (the older) Manhattan. In the course of getting to know her, I learned that she liked girls too. She picked her favorite from the girls there, and off we went. I even photographed them. The photos might still be on the forum, you might search for them. She was very hot, cute, and she and her friend liked licking each other as much as they liked screwing me (ha, probably more.) Unfortunately she is long gone from China.

The moral: try non-Chinese Asians, you might have better luck in finding a bi girl.

Update: Here's the link to the photos: [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?3013-2007-East-China-Shanghai&p=568908&viewfull=1#post568908[/url]

GM[/QUOTE]So anybody has a contact of a working girl that does provide this service?

[QUOTE=Danny Yu;1204422]You mean even the escort agencies won't be able to hook me up?[/QUOTE]Agencies will only offer you two girls, but the girls will not touch each other. If they promise something different, you can almost be sure it`s a trick.

@Lost In Shanghai,

Yep that's the place, pity it's still a hit and miss. A bit same as before then.

Would have been great if that place had a service that you could be sure of.

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1203626]Based on the description below, I stopped by. Place is now called Rainbow, and your mileage will definitely vary. I'm sure it is same place, as address is clear. Requested the Aroma Therapy & Prostate Massage. Got neither. I'm sure I got a different girl. What I did get was a lackluster oil massage, a lot of "bu ke ye" no touching feedback, and an ordinary hand release. Actually, the girl was a little scary. Seemed to have it in her mind to make me her boyfriend, and wanted to cuddle on the foot massage chair after I got dressed, and didn't want me to go when I got really bored.[/QUOTE]

I was about to agree with other in the forum about lack of good threesome in China but I happened to try out Shuangmei Sauan on Wuyi Lu and Dingxi Lu. I found this sauna while browsing the Chinese forum.

[url=http://www.qianpad.com/?fromuid=322956]Qianpad[/url]

According to the forum, the sauna is famous for having foreign workers (Russian, Japanese and Korean) but when I went tonight, there were only Korean and Japanese and no Russian. There isn't really a point to pay extra for Japanese or Korean.

Anyway, the place is right at the center of the city but the outside light was off at 8 PM when I went so it looked like the business was closed. Push open the door, there was the counter and the usual getting the key and shower. The shower is very small. After the shower, I was leaded to a small room with bed and the mamasan came over to chat a bit. Then she recommended 2 girls for RMB 800. I don't usually go for 2 girls but since I was there for the first time and want build relationship with the mamasan, I opt for it and it turned out to be a good decision. After she arrange the girl, she took me to another room with two girls already waiting inside. The room was dark with a bed and a sofa.

I got 192 and 189. The looks are about 6 & 7 in my book and both are short and a bit chubby but they rank top 10 in great attitudes and very talkative in a good way. The theme of the month is stewardess uniform. One of them greed me with light kiss on the lips with a bit of tongue action while the other was getting the bed setup. We got naked and got on the bed. It started with usual two on each side but after about 5 minutes, the girls started to touching and grabbing each other. One was asking me to hold on to the other's arms so she could lick her nipples. The fun began there. We played around with quite a few position. At the end, I was doing one missionary while the other sitting behind her playing with the breasts. Great visuals for threesome and they seem to enjoy that. Overall, one of the best threesome experiences I have had in China and this place has potential.

By the way, after we were done, they were showing me other stuffs in the room and pointing to a bondage cross rack on the wall with chain on it. One of the girls were telling me that we should give that a try next time. Also, they got other themed rooms.

[QUOTE=Danny Yu; 1204422]Hahaha thanks a lot bro! At least we got that clear! You mean even the escort agencies won't be able to hook me up?

Anyways can you recommend a single place thats guranteed service? Just want a clean hot session since I don't have much time and have read loads of mixed reviews on most places.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jman90024; 1204736]I was about to agree with other in the forum about lack of good threesome in China but I happened to try out Shuangmei Sauan on Wuyi Lu and Dingxi Lu. I found this sauna while browsing the Chinese forum.

[url=http://www.qianpad.com/?fromuid=322956]Qianpad[/url]

According to the forum, the sauna is famous for having foreign workers (Russian, Japanese and Korean) but when I went tonight, there were only Korean and Japanese and no Russian. There isn't really a point to pay extra for Japanese or Korean.[/QUOTE]Google tell me to avoid open this page, because the page has a high risk to have malware on it, so better be carefull.

[QUOTE=Jman90024; 1204736]I was about to agree with other in the forum about lack of good threesome in China but I happened to try out Shuangmei Sauan on Wuyi Lu and Dingxi Lu. I found this sauna while browsing the Chinese forum.

[url=http://www.qianpad.com/?fromuid=322956]Qianpad[/url]

According to the forum, the sauna is famous for having foreign workers (Russian, Japanese and Korean) but when I went tonight, there were only Korean and Japanese and no Russian. There isn't really a point to pay extra for Japanese or Korean.

Anyway, the place is right at the center of the city but the outside light was off at 8 PM when I went so it looked like the business was closed. Push open the door, there was the counter and the usual getting the key and shower. The shower is very small. After the shower, I was leaded to a small room with bed and the mamasan came over to chat a bit. Then she recommended 2 girls for RMB 800. I don't usually go for 2 girls but since I was there for the first time and want build relationship with the mamasan, I opt for it and it turned out to be a good decision. After she arrange the girl, she took me to another room with two girls already waiting inside. The room was dark with a bed and a sofa.

I got 192 and 189. The looks are about 6 & 7 in my book and both are short and a bit chubby but they rank top 10 in great attitudes and very talkative in a good way. The theme of the month is stewardess uniform. One of them greed me with light kiss on the lips with a bit of tongue action while the other was getting the bed setup. We got naked and got on the bed. It started with usual two on each side but after about 5 minutes, the girls started to touching and grabbing each other. One was asking me to hold on to the other's arms so she could lick her nipples. The fun began there. We played around with quite a few position. At the end, I was doing one missionary while the other sitting behind her playing with the breasts. Great visuals for threesome and they seem to enjoy that. Overall, one of the best threesome experiences I have had in China and this place has potential.

By the way, after we were done, they were showing me other stuffs in the room and pointing to a bondage cross rack on the wall with chain on it. One of the girls were telling me that we should give that a try next time. Also, they got other themed rooms.[/QUOTE]Nice! Thanks for the heads up. Can you comment on the decor and whether the place offers some security (ie: staff on stake out, maze like hallways) against LE raid.

[QUOTE=Jman90024; 1204736]I was about to agree with other in the forum about lack of good threesome in China but I happened to try out Shuangmei Sauan on Wuyi Lu and Dingxi Lu. I found this sauna while browsing the Chinese forum.

[url=http://www.qianpad.com/?fromuid=322956]Qianpad[/url]

According to the forum, the sauna is famous for having foreign workers (Russian, Japanese and Korean) but when I went tonight, there were only Korean and Japanese and no Russian. There isn't really a point to pay extra for Japanese or Korean.

Anyway, the place is right at the center of the city but the outside light was off at 8 PM when I went so it looked like the business was closed. Push open the door, there was the counter and the usual getting the key and shower. The shower is very small. After the shower, I was leaded to a small room with bed and the mamasan came over to chat a bit. Then she recommended 2 girls for RMB 800. I don't usually go for 2 girls but since I was there for the first time and want build relationship with the mamasan, I opt for it and it turned out to be a good decision. After she arrange the girl, she took me to another room with two girls already waiting inside. The room was dark with a bed and a sofa.

I got 192 and 189. The looks are about 6 & 7 in my book and both are short and a bit chubby but they rank top 10 in great attitudes and very talkative in a good way. The theme of the month is stewardess uniform. One of them greed me with light kiss on the lips with a bit of tongue action while the other was getting the bed setup. We got naked and got on the bed. It started with usual two on each side but after about 5 minutes, the girls started to touching and grabbing each other. One was asking me to hold on to the other's arms so she could lick her nipples. The fun began there. We played around with quite a few position. At the end, I was doing one missionary while the other sitting behind her playing with the breasts. Great visuals for threesome and they seem to enjoy that. Overall, one of the best threesome experiences I have had in China and this place has potential.

By the way, after we were done, they were showing me other stuffs in the room and pointing to a bondage cross rack on the wall with chain on it. One of the girls were telling me that we should give that a try next time. Also, they got other themed rooms.[/QUOTE]This place sounds good, is it purely a Chinese hangout, or would it be open to english speaking foreigners?

A mate and I hit SiYuan about 8:30pm. We were expecting it to be a bit busy, but the locker and shower area were completely empty. After a shower, sauna and hot tub, we made our way behind the looking glass to the fish bowl. A nice line up of 15 girls. The girls were all clad in bra and panties so you could really see the merchandise. I chose 871, my mate chose 782.

871 is actually 527 from Bodi (mentioned earlier that talent is shared between the establishments). She is a nice spinner from Anhui. 5'1".40kg wet, B cup, nicely trimmed Bush. She had a great attitude. After a nice soapy side, I dried her off and proceeded to suck her nipples till she was quivering. A round of DATY before she took control and gave me a cat bath etc. Flipped and a very nice BBBJ. FS was all over the room for a couple of pops. Not rushed at all, she was a fun gal who enjoyed her work.

My mate had equally good service but commented that 782 had a full forested Bush.

As we headed out, there was only one guy coming in to the locker room. I guess due to the shift of working schedule (Sunday as a work day), most mongers were being good boys at home.

SH

Thanks a lot for sharing, I will try to have the same girls and I will tell you. I have 3 questions; did you had 1 or 2 pops? How much did it cost? And did you had more than just touching between the girls (kissing, licking, fingering)?

Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=Jman90024; 1204736]I was about to agree with other in the forum about lack of good threesome in China but I happened to try out Shuangmei Sauan on Wuyi Lu and Dingxi Lu. I found this sauna while browsing the Chinese forum.

[url=http://www.qianpad.com/?fromuid=322956]Qianpad[/url]

According to the forum, the sauna is famous for having foreign workers (Russian, Japanese and Korean) but when I went tonight, there were only Korean and Japanese and no Russian. There isn't really a point to pay extra for Japanese or Korean.

Anyway, the place is right at the center of the city but the outside light was off at 8 PM when I went so it looked like the business was closed. Push open the door, there was the counter and the usual getting the key and shower. The shower is very small. After the shower, I was leaded to a small room with bed and the mamasan came over to chat a bit. Then she recommended 2 girls for RMB 800. I don't usually go for 2 girls but since I was there for the first time and want build relationship with the mamasan, I opt for it and it turned out to be a good decision. After she arrange the girl, she took me to another room with two girls already waiting inside. The room was dark with a bed and a sofa.

I got 192 and 189. The looks are about 6 & 7 in my book and both are short and a bit chubby but they rank top 10 in great attitudes and very talkative in a good way. The theme of the month is stewardess uniform. One of them greed me with light kiss on the lips with a bit of tongue action while the other was getting the bed setup. We got naked and got on the bed. It started with usual two on each side but after about 5 minutes, the girls started to touching and grabbing each other. One was asking me to hold on to the other's arms so she could lick her nipples. The fun began there. We played around with quite a few position. At the end, I was doing one missionary while the other sitting behind her playing with the breasts. Great visuals for threesome and they seem to enjoy that. Overall, one of the best threesome experiences I have had in China and this place has potential.

By the way, after we were done, they were showing me other stuffs in the room and pointing to a bondage cross rack on the wall with chain on it. One of the girls were telling me that we should give that a try next time. Also, they got other themed rooms.[/QUOTE]

This is a Sauna near the Sheraton Hongqiao. There is a guy sitting on a chair at the door. He lets you right in. I went inside and went downstairs. They met me at the door and escorted me to the locker room. On the way back there, there was a 50ish year old Chinese gentleman sitting on a chair next to a hot spinner in a black miniskirt. I was just checking the place out and am not a sauna guy. As I said, I have a Chinese girlfriend and right now the freebies wear me out.

I thought I might get to see the girls but like all reports, I guess that comes after. I turned around and headed out at that point but it looked promising. Is there any other kind of Sauna place than the one for us mongers? I mean are some legit? It would have been a bummer to get my courage up, go in and get a normal massage.

What can you experts tell me? When do you know you have hit paydirt? Does one need to take it for the team to figure it out?

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1205408]This is a Sauna near the Sheraton Hongqiao. There is a guy sitting on a chair at the door. He lets you right in. I went inside and went downstairs. They met me at the door and escorted me to the locker room. On the way back there, there was a 50ish year old Chinese gentleman sitting on a chair next to a hot spinner in a black miniskirt. I was just checking the place out and am not a sauna guy. As I said, I have a Chinese girlfriend and right now the freebies wear me out.

I thought I might get to see the girls but like all reports, I guess that comes after. I turned around and headed out at that point but it looked promising. Is there any other kind of Sauna place than the one for us mongers? I mean are some legit? It would have been a bummer to get my courage up, go in and get a normal massage.

What can you experts tell me? When do you know you have hit paydirt? Does one need to take it for the team to figure it out?[/QUOTE]I've never encountered a 'legit' spa / sauna yet, but maybe they're out there. Also, have never seen the merchandise -before- the shower.

I guess you know you've hit pay dirt when you're either taken to the line up, or (in some places) the line up is brought to you.

Should Xing He be 'legit', please let us know!

[QUOTE=Mike666;1204765]Nice! Thanks for the heads up. Can you comment on the decor and whether the place offers some security (ie: staff on stake out, maze like hallways) against LE raid.[/QUOTE]The decor is not modern but the room is maze like passing a few locked doors.

I just realized that I didn't post the cost. It's 800 for 60 minutes with two girls. I think you can have two pops if you like. I was having too much fun making them play with each other. There are a lot of grabbing, kissing and licking of the breasts but nothing below the waists. Well, I only have once seen a Chinese girl going down on the other but it was very mechanical performance. These two are playful with each other.

[QUOTE=WandererShanghai; 1205224]Thanks a lot for sharing, I will try to have the same girls and I will tell you. I have 3 questions; did you had 1 or 2 pops? How much did it cost? And did you had more than just touching between the girls (kissing, licking, fingering)?

Thanks for sharing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jman90024;1205523]I just realized that I didn't post the cost. It's 800 for 60 minutes with two girls. I think you can have two pops if you like. I was having too much fun making them play with each other. There are a lot of grabbing, kissing and licking of the breasts but nothing below the waists. Well, I only have once seen a Chinese girl going down on the other but it was very mechanical performance. These two are playful with each other.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info man.

In general what time do these saunas close? Also are most of these near downtown shanghai?

Also what are the late night spots like after 1am? Any good ones?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1205503]I've never encountered a 'legit' spa / sauna yet, but maybe they're out there. Also, have never seen the merchandise.before- the shower.

I guess you know you've hit pay dirt when you're either taken to the line up, or (in some places) the line up is brought to you.

Should Xing He be 'legit', please let us know![/QUOTE]I heard Green Massage is legit, but the bill is pretty expensive.

Around 300 for 60 minutes of service.

Some of the secretaries in my office say its worth it though.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1205663]I heard Green Massage is legit, but the bill is pretty expensive.

Around 300 for 60 minutes of service.

Some of the secretaries in my office say its worth it though.[/QUOTE]Granted, many legit -MP-, however, Spas / Saunas are different.

I was at Bodi yesterday, my first visit to a Chinese sauna. Place is very fresh!

The lineup of about 20 girls composed of about 5 above average, of which 586 was the prettiest. Very cute girl, I would say about 18 years of age, slim, great pert tits luverly nipples, very cute face.

Then she stripped off her knickers and the enjoyment then died for me. She didn't have a dick, no, but the Bush just destroyed it! It's maybe because they have very dark hair that it looks extra bushy. I just couldn't get hard, and I never have a problem with this otherwise, just thinking about that ugly looking Bush, man what a shock! Instead she gave me a BBBJ with CIM.

Does annyone do anything special to ensure they get a fully shaven babe? Feels like I want to start a revolution here in China against hairy muffs, its awful!

[QUOTE=Danny Yu; 1205571]Thanks for the info man.

In general what time do these saunas close? Also are most of these near downtown shanghai?

Also what are the late night spots like after 1am? Any good ones?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Most Saunas will close at 1am, some also will be open up to 2 or 3 am, but no 24 hours service.

For the "popular" sauna locations.

Feng Ding close 2 pm, also golden 18 (but 18 still closed) , He Yuan, Bodi and Hai Lang close 3 am,

You can find a lot of Sauna places in the city center, but also.

In Pudong or outside areas you will have a full service Sauna not far away.

We just added a interactive Google Sauna Map, so you can find out, which one (of the most.

Popular places) is nearby: [url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/member-area/sauna-map[/url]

Welcome to China, LukasFlirt.

Do a search on the forum and you will see quite a few discussion on this topic. It's a culture thing, try to get used to it (or see beyond that) and you'll enjoy yourself better.

[QUOTE=LukasFlirt; 1205713]I was at Bodi yesterday, my first visit to a Chinese sauna. Place is very fresh!

The lineup of about 20 girls composed of about 5 above average, of which 586 was the prettiest. Very cute girl, I would say about 18 years of age, slim, great pert tits luverly nipples, very cute face.

Then she stripped off her knickers and the enjoyment then died for me. She didn't have a dick, no, but the Bush just destroyed it! It's maybe because they have very dark hair that it looks extra bushy. I just couldn't get hard, and I never have a problem with this otherwise, just thinking about that ugly looking Bush, man what a shock! Instead she gave me a BBBJ with CIM.

Does annyone do anything special to ensure they get a fully shaven babe? Feels like I want to start a revolution here in China against hairy muffs, its awful![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Danny Yu; 1205571]Thanks for the info man.

In general what time do these saunas close? Also are most of these near downtown shanghai?

Also what are the late night spots like after 1am? Any good ones?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Not sure what time it closes but most close at 2AM these days. It's pretty downtown location.

[QUOTE=LukasFlirt; 1205713]I was at Bodi yesterday, my first visit to a Chinese sauna. Place is very fresh!

The lineup of about 20 girls composed of about 5 above average, of which 586 was the prettiest. Very cute girl, I would say about 18 years of age, slim, great pert tits luverly nipples, very cute face.

Then she stripped off her knickers and the enjoyment then died for me. She didn't have a dick, no, but the Bush just destroyed it! It's maybe because they have very dark hair that it looks extra bushy. I just couldn't get hard, and I never have a problem with this otherwise, just thinking about that ugly looking Bush, man what a shock! Instead she gave me a BBBJ with CIM.

Does annyone do anything special to ensure they get a fully shaven babe? Feels like I want to start a revolution here in China against hairy muffs, its awful![/QUOTE]Quite a few sauna girls told me that they won't shave. Apparently they feel that only people with STD do so. There are girls in bodhi who are not as bushy, but you'll need to monger more and take your chances. Cheers

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1205753]Most Saunas will close at 1am, some also will be open up to 2 or 3 am, but no 24 hours service.

Thanks a ton guys.

Are any of these hotels in the vicinity of the popular spas mentioned? Grand Mercury Hong qiao Branch Shanghai.

Holiday Inn Downtown Branch Shanghai.

Also do youll suggest manhattan? I mean are the girls generally cleaned and health checks and stuff? I mean where I come from there is absolutely no gurantee! Are these the best options? Also whats the situation with LE? Always a fear being a foreigner specially in China!

Thanks so much guys will definitely hook youll up when youll come to my side of towwn!

Popular places) is nearby:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/member-area/sauna-map[/url][/QUOTE]The link is password protected bro!

Thanks Dan

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1205825]Welcome to China, LukasFlirt.

Do a search on the forum and you will see quite a few discussion on this topic. It's a culture thing, try to get used to it (or see beyond that) and you'll enjoy yourself better.[/QUOTE]Yep. 5000 years to figure out arm pit hair wasn't sexy, so don't hold your breath for the next wave of enlightenment. Maybe doggie is an adequate work 'around' (unless her ass is hairy too - yuck!).

[QUOTE=Danny Yu; 1205900]

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1205753]Most Saunas will close at 1am, some also will be open up to 2 or 3 am, but no 24 hours service.

Thanks a ton guys.

Are any of these hotels in the vicinity of the popular spas mentioned? Grand Mercury Hong qiao Branch Shanghai.

Holiday Inn Downtown Branch Shanghai.

Also do youll suggest manhattan? I mean are the girls generally cleaned and health checks and stuff? I mean where I come from there is absolutely no gurantee! Are these the best options? Also whats the situation with LE? Always a fear being a foreigner specially in China!

Thanks so much guys will definitely hook youll up when youll come to my side of towwn![/QUOTE]Health checks? China? Dude, this ain't Geylang (and even if it was, I'm sure health certs would be counterfeited!). Many hotels have spas inside or adjacent to them, so you should be able to find something quite easily. Seems to be a lull in LE activity lately, probably due to the holiday.

[QUOTE=Danny Yu; 1205904]Popular places) is nearby:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/member-area/sauna-map[/url][/QUOTE]The link is password protected bro!

Thanks Dan[/QUOTE]Hi Dan,

Sorry for the mistake. The map normally is restricted to our VIP user. I moved it to.

A another page to make sure you don`t have to be a member to open it, but I did.

Not realize, that also the new place was under protection. Now I removed the lock.

For this page, so the link should work now.

[QUOTE=LukasFlirt;1205713]Does annyone do anything special to ensure they get a fully shaven babe? Feels like I want to start a revolution here in China against hairy muffs, its awful![/QUOTE]Hi Lukas,

You will not find a lot of Chinese girls with a "clean-mown lawn in their garden". Sometimes you will be lucky to find one with very less and fluffy hair, but you need to look around a lot. In a Sauna I never heard about shaved girls. Here you have most time asian customers, and they prefer "unkempt lawns". Only in areas where the girls are looking for western customers, you will have a chance to find a shaved girl (but for much higher price than a sauna). Most of the the Vietnamese and Thai girls in Manhattan are shaved, but here also the Chinese girls will keep their "wild garden" very often. Some girls Bars (for example like Gogo China or Blue sky around Manhattan Club) are focused on western customers and I know here you have a 50 % chance to find a shaved girl, but first you don`t know who, second you have to spend out some thousand RMB in the bar first and most time the girl will not go home with you, so you waste your money. Some of the Freelancers here in Shanghai (specialized on western customers) are also shaved, but they will not tell you, if you ask them, so also a "lottery". I know only one FL Chinese Girl who is definitly shaved.

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/shanghai-escort-girls/independent-girls/high-class-candy/[/url]

Because I told her, if she will do it and put it on the webpage, she will be much more attractive to western customers, so she asked us to update her profile last week.

My experience is, if you ask a normal private girl to shave (or better you do it for her) , most girls are willing to try it, but this will not work in a Sauna.

I lot of us here will hope you are successful with your revolution against hairy muffs, but I am afraid it will need a long time, but: jia you, jia you!

Shanghai Hai Bin International Club Sauna.

Hey guys any reportsof this page? Is it good? Found some decent review of it! Tried searching the thread but no reports!

Also would any one recommend girls clubs? I think they are called gogo or something!

Thanks guys

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1205978]I know only one FL Chinese Girl who is definitly shaved.

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/shanghai-escort-girls/independent-girls/high-class-candy/[/url]

Because I told her, if she will do it and put it on the webpage, she will be much more attractive to western customers, so she asked us to update her profile last week.[/QUOTE]More spam and more spam

[QUOTE=LukasFlirt; 1205713]Then she stripped off her knickers and the enjoyment then died for me. She didn't have a dick, no, but the Bush just destroyed it! It's maybe because they have very dark hair that it looks extra bushy. I just couldn't get hard, and I never have a problem with this otherwise, just thinking about that ugly looking Bush, man what a shock! Instead she gave me a BBBJ with CIM.

Feels like I want to start a revolution here in China against hairy muffs, its awful![/QUOTE]

Some feminists have a theory that we inferior species males have an inbuilt phobia about ladies pubic hair. We are afraid of hairy snatches. I think this is B.S.

I can take it either way. I love hairy muffs or shaved. To say women shaving armpits is progress is like waiting for them all to shave their heads to. It's just a fashion not a big deal.

Here's the deal: a guy with 4 (yea I read'm) posts flies into Shanghai meets what sounds like a fairly typical Chinese girl, couldn't get his dick up and talks about 'awful'. Some of us appreciate Chinese pussy and the bushes they hide in. Some of us even like to eat them. In fact, some of us would say they contain the nectar of the gods. Learn to eat that pussy. She may guide you a little. Or maybe a lot. At some point she may pull your face out of that fragrant Bush shove your dick into her pussy. That's if it's hard. Stick it into her pussy, push her pelvic bone up and some may even say 'fuck me, fuck me. ' Learn to appreciate Chinese pussy. And if you can't. You know that plane that brought you to Shanghai. I'm sure it has a return flight. Use it.

[QUOTE=LukasFlirt; 1205713]I was at Bodi yesterday, my first visit to a Chinese sauna. Place is very fresh!

The lineup of about 20 girls composed of about 5 above average, of which 586 was the prettiest. Very cute girl, I would say about 18 years of age, slim, great pert tits luverly nipples, very cute face.

Then she stripped off her knickers and the enjoyment then died for me. She didn't have a dick, no, but the Bush just destroyed it! It's maybe because they have very dark hair that it looks extra bushy. I just couldn't get hard, and I never have a problem with this otherwise, just thinking about that ugly looking Bush, man what a shock! Instead she gave me a BBBJ with CIM.

Does annyone do anything special to ensure they get a fully shaven babe? Feels like I want to start a revolution here in China against hairy muffs, its awful![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1206161]More spam and more spam[/QUOTE]Indeed sounds like.

Doesn't add much to the debate.

The link doesn't bring much of an information other than an advertise in the "wrong" section, not even a picture, for what it can be worth of the shaved part.

Same as saying "this girl is shaved". Out of a multitude of thousands girls who can be shaved, or not, but you do not know till you lift the curtain.

Saw her again recently (third or fourth time). She has this incredible slim body with nicely sized (C cup?) and shaped breasts. They may look bigger because of her slim frame. Nice face. Good BJ but not deep enough. A fun and sexy pick. 8/10

Hi guys,

Been a long time since was in China last, far too long in fact. Coming back at the end of the month but only have 1 night initially in Shanghai, so would appreciate some feedback. I've been to Sacrosa a couple of times before, hoping it's as good as it was then, but have read a number of posts about Bodhi too. For someone that loves the fine delights of the asian pussy, what is your thoughts on the best place to go between the 2 if only in town for 1 short night? Or, should I try to find some take out at Manhatten for an LT? Guessing the later has more Flio, Thai and Viet from what I've read so far? Is there a better place that has higher body count on the PRC side as definatley looking for some local talent.

Will report back on the endeavours of the night for sure, hence why I would value the feedback of those in the know so I can maximise my time.

Many thanks.

Matt

[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1206193]Here's the deal: a guy with 4 (yea I read'm) posts flies into Shanghai meets what sounds like a fairly typical Chinese girl, couldn't get his dick up and talks about 'awful'. Some of us appreciate Chinese pussy and the bushes they hide in. Some of us even like to eat them. In fact, some of us would say they contain the nectar of the gods. Learn to eat that pussy. She may guide you a little. Or maybe a lot. At some point she may pull your face out of that fragrant Bush shove your dick into her pussy. That's if it's hard. Stick it into her pussy, push her pelvic bone up and some may even say 'fuck me, fuck me. ' Learn to appreciate Chinese pussy. And if you can't. You know that plane that brought you to Shanghai. I'm sure it has a return flight. Use it.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with Waldeck2. As one always says, when in Rome, do as what the Romans do. This is called cultural difference. To a Chinese girl, shaving is not natural. Chinese men do not shaved pussy, and the majority of the clientiale are Chinese. So if you do not like it, bring your money somewhere else.

Eddy

The following seem to be pretty legit:

Kang Dao Massage (585 N. Caoxi Road)

Zen Massage (210 Wuyuan and Wulumuqi Roads)

Yu Massage (370 Wuyuan Road)

Jiurong Zhuanye Massage (11 Shaanxi South Road)

Nice massage, but no extras found

I really don't know what significance my post count has to do with things and how / why it weakens the credibility of my opinions. Sure I have only a few posts here but then again I'm not trying to gain extra "points". I pay my membership to ensure the survival of this forum. I'm very content with my position here.

One more thing. I don't give up and whilst negative people may suggest or use that return flight as a solution to their woes, I on the other hand go searching for what I want.

Thanks to everyone who's come up with constructive replies to my post. Thanks for not trying to belittle me.

[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1206193]Here's the deal: a guy with 4 (yea I read'm) posts flies into Shanghai meets what sounds like a fairly typical Chinese girl, couldn't get his dick up and talks about 'awful'. Some of us appreciate Chinese pussy and the bushes they hide in. Some of us even like to eat them. In fact, some of us would say they contain the nectar of the gods. Learn to eat that pussy. She may guide you a little. Or maybe a lot. At some point she may pull your face out of that fragrant Bush shove your dick into her pussy. That's if it's hard. Stick it into her pussy, push her pelvic bone up and some may even say 'fuck me, fuck me. ' Learn to appreciate Chinese pussy. And if you can't. You know that plane that brought you to Shanghai. I'm sure it has a return flight. Use it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai; 1206339]The following seem to be pretty legit:

Kang Dao Massage (585 N. Caoxi Road)

Zen Massage (210 Wuyuan and Wulumuqi Roads)

Yu Massage (370 Wuyuan Road)

Jiurong Zhuanye Massage (11 Shaanxi South Road)

Nice massage, but no extras found[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report bro, always good to know some legit places to take friends or visitors who don't monger.

[QUOTE=JeromeChanel; 1202443]I noticed seemingly a girl bar at jululu, near the hilton end. The glasses are smoked and it opens from 8pm to 4am.

Could this be a HJ bar? Has anyone tried? Little bit wary.[/QUOTE]Have you taken one for the team yet? I was at that joint several times about a year ago and it was pretty much the same fare as the places directly across from the Hilton and the old JuLu Lu bars. In other words, an expensive scam operation. It could be a lot of fun as long as you didn't mind draining your wallet and going home with "blue balls". The Velvet Lounge is directly across from Good-Times and worth a visit for good music and dancing. BTW, have New York, New York and Route 66 reopened? I never did discover the real reason they closed a few months ago. Some of the girls there were good eye-candy as a warm-up for Manhattans later on.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1206566]Thanks for the report bro, always good to know some legit places to take friends or visitors who don't monger.[/QUOTE]Or which places not to waste your time at LOL!

[QUOTE=LukasFlirt; 1206353]I really don't know what significance my post count has to do with things and how / why it weakens the credibility of my opinions. Sure I have only a few posts here but then again I'm not trying to gain extra "points". I pay my membership to ensure the survival of this forum. I'm very content with my position here.

One more thing. I don't give up and whilst negative people may suggest or use that return flight as a solution to their woes, I on the other hand go searching for what I want.

Thanks to everyone who's come up with constructive replies to my post. Thanks for not trying to belittle me.[/QUOTE]Lukas for what its worth, my Chinese girlfriend trims the lawn a little so it fits the bikini. Other than that forget it. She is not a bushy lawn and quite acceptable. They are out there. They are not all Sasquatch.

[QUOTE=Mattoz; 1206270]Hi guys,

Been a long time since was in China last, far too long in fact. Coming back at the end of the month but only have 1 night initially in Shanghai, so would appreciate some feedback. I've been to Sacrosa a couple of times before, hoping it's as good as it was then, but have read a number of posts about Bodhi too. For someone that loves the fine delights of the asian pussy, what is your thoughts on the best place to go between the 2 if only in town for 1 short night? Or, should I try to find some take out at Manhatten for an LT? Guessing the later has more Flio, Thai and Viet from what I've read so far? Is there a better place that has higher body count on the PRC side as definatley looking for some local talent.

Will report back on the endeavours of the night for sure, hence why I would value the feedback of those in the know so I can maximise my time.

Many thanks.

Matt[/QUOTE]For me it depends on whether I want a soapy (the Bodi is great) or if I just want to get down to business (the Sacrosa is my choice). With the soapy and one hour session Bodi it is not easy to get more than one pop in. Depending upon the time of day Bodi can also be 200RMB more expensive.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1205408]This is a Sauna near the Sheraton Hongqiao. There is a guy sitting on a chair at the door. He lets you right in. I went inside and went downstairs. They met me at the door and escorted me to the locker room. On the way back there, there was a 50ish year old Chinese gentleman sitting on a chair next to a hot spinner in a black miniskirt. I was just checking the place out and am not a sauna guy. As I said, I have a Chinese girlfriend and right now the freebies wear me out.

I thought I might get to see the girls but like all reports, I guess that comes after. I turned around and headed out at that point but it looked promising. Is there any other kind of Sauna place than the one for us mongers? I mean are some legit? It would have been a bummer to get my courage up, go in and get a normal massage.

What can you experts tell me? When do you know you have hit paydirt? Does one need to take it for the team to figure it out?[/QUOTE]I've always been a huge fan of Xinghe (was called Zhong Tian before all the raiding happened in Shanghai). I had a regular there that I visited every time I was in Shanghai. She was the Red Card there (meaning she was top ranked in terms of money earned and # of appointments) and absolutely stunning! We went out a few times before she became my regular girlfriend for a while. Unfortunately I had to return back to Texas last year but we still keep in touch. She is no longer at Xinghe and has retired from the business. She claimed that it's getting too risky to work nowadays.

Went to Sacrosa. Ignored a few warning signs which was stupid of me.

1. Arrived with 4-5 guys immediately ahead of me. When I arrived at the dressing area, they were just heading for the shower.

2. By the time I got to the line up, only 3 girls available. Guess the rest were taken by the guys ahead.

3. Girls looked unhappy, looked like they hated working there. Looks were 6's and 7's.

Picked the best looking one #215. Big mistake. Everything was a rush, from cat bath to BJ to AR to FS. No kissing, can't even play with her nipples let alone my hands wander near her pussy. Finished the deed in about 35 minutes. This is my usual time as I was leaving time for 2nd round. Yes, I'm a moron for thinking that too. Then the ***** got dressed and said she wanted to get rid of the condom and also needed to go relief herself. After 10 minutes still did not returned. I got dressed and walkout back the the shower area. Some guy came looking for me when I was soaking in the tub. I told him of the situation. Hope the ***** gets fined or fired. Left after 50 minutes.

Number: 215.

Name: Bian Bian.

Looks: 7.

Body: 8.

Attitude and service: 1.

Absolutely do not go for this girl. A complete waste of time and money

[QUOTE=Mike921;1206566]Thanks for the report bro, always good to know some legit places to take friends or visitors who don't monger.[/QUOTE]If I want a real massage, with no relief to ruin a date later, I always go to Shanghai Huaan Health care center behind the Radisson hotel.

Phone: 63277685, 158 fengyang Road. There are two places there close together. The one on the west or left if you are looking at them looks like a dentist and herbal remedy place. The one on the east or right hand is a little harder to spot as it has a smaller sign and is the one I go to.

It's the best massage I ever had.

[QUOTE=SamCan;1206707]Or which places not to waste your time at LOL![/QUOTE]Amen brother!

Hey guys,

Thanks for the great posts its helped me to some extent to have some hope of getting some action in this massive city. Will be there tomorrow for like a night so just wanted to check somethings out please.

How is this place? Any reviews? Shanghai Hai Bin International Club Sauna and HAI LANG Sauna? Please let me know. So near downtown I gather the best place is bodi right?

Also at night to hang around and meet some hot girls I got manhattan? Please suggest other places where I can try and pick up? Please help a brother out.

Thanks a lot guys!

[QUOTE=Knotawake;1206629]BTW, have New York, New York and Route 66 reopened? I never did discover the real reason they closed a few months ago.[/QUOTE]It seems all the bars are reopened on that stretch of road. I'm also not sure exactly what happened with NY, NY or Route 66, but the one I prefer is just a bit further south called Deja Vu. Nice girls, relaxed place. But, just like the others on this strip, they are experts at draining your wallet especially after you've had a few drinks. Lady drinks range from 55 RMB for G&T up to 100 RMB for Long Islands. Once they start suggesting shots, watch out! Deja Vu can still be a fun place, and not all the "pressure" to buy drinks like NY, NY. Just be aware what you are getting into, that it will likely be expensive if you're not careful (well, even if you are careful, it will be expensive) , and the prospects for take-out or other activities are either low or going to be big bucks. Better to go to Manhattan or Judy's for an overnight date.

Spend my Thursday night at manhattans, got there about 02:00 and the place was booming. Big mixture of thai, Chinese, Cambodian, vietnamese girls. Basically I stood on the left hand side, walkway to the toilets, waited for mrs right to pass by. Some real stunners absolutely. Then moved to the bar area, got chatting with german guy and we went searching together, ended up with thai girl about 20 years of age, real stunner. Following on from my recent post about hairy muffs, she wasnt fully shaven, more trimmed, but at least I could see the destination. This is a real easy pickup place, its maybe a little too noisy for conversation but the dancing was fun! Its also quite dark, so difficult to get proper look of the girls. I pulled up about 4 or 5 before I was real happy, there were about 50 girls there at that time.

One thing, I just took the girl by the hand after half an hour of dancing with her, took her to taxi, couple of pops and about 12:00 I told her ill give her 850rmb and she was happy with that. No discussion of money beforehand. In hindsight it was silly of me, what if she got pissed and reported me or something, but it worked this time!

Certainly go back again!

[QUOTE=Dickie Robert;1206792]I've always been a huge fan of Xinghe (was called Zhong Tian before all the raiding happened in Shanghai). I had a regular there that I visited every time I was in Shanghai. She was the Red Card there (meaning she was top ranked in terms of money earned and # of appointments) and absolutely stunning! . She claimed that it's getting too risky to work nowadays.[/QUOTE]Would your ladyfriend consider doing any private freelance work on occasion?

Given your personal relations there, if you'd rather not share info, will understand!

Cheers,

CW2

I know that most of you come here just looking for directions to places. But others like me enjoy reading people's stories, so read it if you will.

Was in Shanghai few weeks ago, and went to a bar at a famous brand hotel in Pudong. It was about 11:30pm, and there were only 2 guys, the bartender, and 3 girls welcoming us: one was fine, one was not my taste, and there is this very attractive girl in a minidress and high heels. I sit by the counter and ask a beer, and watch the game. Meanwhile the guys are playing pool with the hot one, who doesn't show any signs of being interested or willing to "sell services", which makes me think that I will be only having my beer as planned and leave.

Obs: I was cool because I had just had 2 hours of great action, and same thing on the day before, so I was not in the hunting mood. I wanted to relax.

So the guys keep teasing her, and she doesn't relax at all. She of course smiles and talk, but not throwing herself. Very reserved. So I imagine she is basically a hostess, and that's it. Don't mess with her. After all, it is a quite respectful hotel.

She comes closer to me while playing, so I say "You're good at pool", and we chat in between her strikes. When they're done (she wins) , she comes over and we chat a bit (and she is still serious, so I don't mess with her). And her english is excellent.

But she is hot, so I finally ask her if a lot of guys ask her out when they come here, and she says that yes, they do, but she chooses if she wants to go with the guy.

Bingo.

So I ask her how does she do it, and she says that depending on the guy's looks, talk, attitude, nationality, etc. And she says,"I need to choose, because I want to have a good time. I enjoy having sex, so I won't go just to do it. I want to go to really enjoy, I need it, I have no BF, so I have my needs and want to satisfy myself as well".

Double-Bingo.

I say that I agree with her, and say what's the point of not enjoying, not having fun. It's not only about the mechanical part, it's about making passionate love, etc, and she likes that.

At this point in time, I'm sitting and she is very close to me. And it's about 00:30h, so I ask her if I'd ask her out if she would like to go with me. She says "Of course I would: you're charming, handsome, why not?". And I'm wondering if I'll be able to handle another action time.

Positive: she asks my age and, before I say it, she says "I think we are same age, I was born in 69". Man, she looks way younger, and I'm really excited now, since I like older women (they know exactly what to do, always a great experience). I'm younger than her, so to not make her feel bad, I say "amazing, we are just 1 year apart, I'm 1 year older than you!".

She says she is free at 2am, which is too late for me, and I say, what about in the morning. 8am? She says "that's good, I can take some rest, we can have a better time".

Triple-Bingo.

We agree on the time, we keep smiling at each other, and she says quite embarassed "you know that I charge for it, right?". I politely say that yes, I understand that, and I'm fine with it. She asks rmb 1, 000 for 2 hours, and tells me that we can do whatever we feel like doing. Again she reminds me that she wants to enjoy it, and passion is important for her.

Quick calc: 1, 000 for her coming to my room? And no taxi fee involved. And she is really promising, so we agree.

She says that she feels sorry for charging me, but she needs to be honest to herself. She says she makes 2, 500 / month at the bar, and having to support parents and young sister, and she likes nice clothes, bags, so she needs the money.

I prefer this honesty. Specially because the way that we connected was great, and by having her telling all that, it made me trust her even more. And trust the time would be great.

And it was.

We say bye, and I go to bed waiting for the next day.

She comes at 8:15am. She kiss my lips and say "wait, I'll brush my teeth and have a shower". I wait for 10min or so, and she comes, fresh, beautiful, naked. I was with my underwear, so she comes over and starts kissing me with real passion. She stops, look at me ans says "This is going to be good". I undress and we continue to make out heavily. A lot of licking, soft biting, grabbing, touching, everything. GFE defines it.

She says "did you have some last night". I don't want to say yes, so I say,"no, why you ask?", she says "I'm ok if you had, because you're so horny, I think you need to f* everyday, don't you?".

Oh boy.

I go down for DATY, and she says she loves it, but she warns me that it will be difficult, because she uses a vibrator every day."What?", and she says "look, I have nobody, so I have to do it myself, I'm horny everyday, I need it".

She is a f-machine. The real one.

After that (she didn't reach the big-O yet) , we kiss again, and she moves to my friend down there and starts a great BBBJ, with a lot of saliva and such. No rush, VERY nice. After some good 3-4 mins, we kiss again, we lick each other, and I can't wait to cap it and go for it.

Cap on, we start it. It is one of the best f* I've had, I assure you. And since I had had some the previous days, I can control it pretty weell, so we go on it for almost 1 hour. She is really enjoying it (she said she would) , and keeps directing me to what she wants me to do. I recall in the beginning I was going too fast and she said "slowly makes me more horny".

Maaaan.

After all positions, and chatting in the middle, and dirty talk an all, I have to release it, and do so in the cap. She then contracts her muscles, and I'm in p-heaven. She milks me with her p. I see fireworks.

We kiss and she tells me "you came, what about me? Can you lick me more?".

I'm here for you milady.

Let me tell you this: I spent some good 10mins doing all possible movements with my tongue. My head was hurting, my muscles getting sore. She was enjoying, but I was not able to make her get there. Then, I feel her breathing changing. I finger her, and feel the same contraction and understand I'm on the right path. A few seconds later, she screams. But not a regular scream. I thought security would come and look for a murder. And she is almost crying. And then is smiling and laughing, and grabs me and kisses me with passion again. She says "the French call orgasms 'little death'".

Heck: how does she know it?

We shower and keep talking. This is the interesting part of the story: I never met such an intelligent and well-informed girl in China. She then tells me about what she already tried to do, but having no college degree, things are hard. And even with that, wages in China are terrible, so what to do? When I tell her what I do, I'm impressed to see that she can differentiate the technical side from the design from the commercial. Her questions are clever, she could easily be successful, but how fate works for some people?

We talk a lot, and I feel sorry for her. But she NEVER asks for anything. What an awesome person. And she basically agrees that she needs to move on.

SHe gives me her email and phone, and says that she doesn't know for how long she will stay in the bar, but would like to be in touch, but it's up to me."I don't want you to feel bad, so only reach me if you want to. I'm ok with it. You are a nice man, more people should be like you".

We get dressed, and she is on her way out. I hand her the money in an envelope. She thanks me, doesn't check the amount, put it into her purse, and we kiss for a long time. Then, she goes.

It was one of my best experiences, and a sad acknowledgement of what China is. Not that you don't know, but why smart people don't have a fair chance? Of course, she had her "demands" (clothes, etc.) , but it escapes me why she was not able to find something good and grow with it.

Long story, but I wanted to share it.

Cheers.

Howdy,

Curious to know if anyone has arranged outcall services through either of these sites:

China Daily Classifieds:

[url]http://classifieds.chinadaily.com/?view=ads&catid=9&cityid=2&lang=en[/url]

Or.

EnjoyCityCn.

[url]http://www.enjoycitycn.com/shanghai-escorts/index.asp[/url]

SMS'ed with a few of the girls who all claim the smokin' hot photos are legit. Prices seem a bit on the expensive side (300/90mins naked oil workdown+HJ service and up) , but I like the idea of relaxing in comfort of my own home. Makes it all seem a bit too good to be true, which having been in China for many years, makes me wary of scam potential.

Thoughts and feedback much appreciated.

Shaitown

Personally, I have not, but have a friend who did try one of the classifieds. Poor return on investment. Mechandise not as adverised, hurried, with very expensive upsell. You are better off to find a MP, build a working relationship with a girl by doing in-house a few times, and then to take out; have her come to the comfort of your own home. My experience with take out massage after building the relationships has been exceptional, full GFE.

SH.

[QUOTE=Shaitown; 1207475]Howdy,

Curious to know if anyone has arranged outcall services through either of these sites:

China Daily Classifieds:

[url]http://classifieds.chinadaily.com/?view=ads&catid=9&cityid=2&lang=en[/url]

Or.

EnjoyCityCn.

[url]http://www.enjoycitycn.com/shanghai-escorts/index.asp[/url]

SMS'ed with a few of the girls who all claim the smokin' hot photos are legit. Prices seem a bit on the expensive side (300/90mins naked oil workdown+HJ service and up) , but I like the idea of relaxing in comfort of my own home. Makes it all seem a bit too good to be true, which having been in China for many years, makes me wary of scam potential.

Thoughts and feedback much appreciated.

Shaitown[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shaitown; 1207475]Howdy,

Curious to know if anyone has arranged outcall services through either of these sites:

China Daily Classifieds:

[url]http://classifieds.chinadaily.com/?view=ads&catid=9&cityid=2&lang=en[/url]

Or.

EnjoyCityCn.

[url]http://www.enjoycitycn.com/shanghai-escorts/index.asp[/url]

SMS'ed with a few of the girls who all claim the smokin' hot photos are legit. Prices seem a bit on the expensive side (300/90mins naked oil workdown+HJ service and up) , but I like the idea of relaxing in comfort of my own home. Makes it all seem a bit too good to be true, which having been in China for many years, makes me wary of scam potential.

Thoughts and feedback much appreciated.

Shaitown[/QUOTE]If you RTFF you would already know that these are always scams, no exceptions. A frumpy looking girl who is no relative to the one in the photo arrives and gives you a 10 minute fake massage. Then she tries to upsell you to a handjob or indifferent sex at twice the price and half the care you would get at a Shanghai sauna.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1206795]Went to Sacrosa. Ignored a few warning signs which was stupid of me.

1. Arrived with 4-5 guys immediately ahead of me. When I arrived at the dressing area, they were just heading for the shower.

2. By the time I got to the line up, only 3 girls available. Guess the rest were taken by the guys ahead.

3. Girls looked unhappy, looked like they hated working there. Looks were 6's and 7's.

Picked the best looking one #215. Big mistake. Everything was a rush, from cat bath to BJ to AR to FS. No kissing, can't even play with her nipples let alone my hands wander near her pussy. Finished the deed in about 35 minutes. This is my usual time as I was leaving time for 2nd round. Yes, I'm a moron for thinking that too. Then the * got dressed and said she wanted to get rid of the condom and also needed to go relief herself. After 10 minutes still did not returned. I got dressed and walkout back the the shower area. Some guy came looking for me when I was soaking in the tub. I told him of the situation. Hope the * gets fined or fired. Left after 50 minutes.

Number: 215.

Name: Bian Bian.

Looks: 7.

Body: 8.

Attitude and service: 1.

Absolutely do not go for this girl. A complete waste of time and money[/QUOTE]To Arizona 123.

I don't understand all you newbie want to kiss the Sauna girl, this girl do about 10 customer a day they do AR that Ass licking incase you don't know, I will never kiss or DATY this girl no way hell no that is dumb.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Shaitown;1207475]SMS'ed with a few of the girls who all claim the smokin' hot photos are legit.[/QUOTE]I suppose if you down enough baijiu before the girl arrives, she may actually resemble something like what you see in the online pic. Kidding aside, Five Aces has it exactly right. You'll get an average to below average girl, poor service and a heavy up-sell. Guaranteed. Stay away, stay away, stay away.

Great report. I've had a few of those experiences myself. Surprised you didn't offer to marry her! LOL I know a couple of saps that did. Eventually they wished that they didn't. Such is life.

Huck

[QUOTE=Sauro07; 1207143]I know that most of you come here just looking for directions to places. But others like me enjoy reading people's stories, so read it if you will.

Was in Shanghai few weeks ago, and went to a bar at a famous brand hotel in Pudong. It was about 11:30pm, and there were only 2 guys, the bartender, and 3 girls welcoming us: one was fine, one was not my taste, and there is this very attractive girl in a minidress and high heels. I sit by the counter and ask a beer, and watch the game. Meanwhile the guys are playing pool with the hot one, who doesn't show any signs of being interested or willing to "sell services", which makes me think that I will be only having my beer as planned and leave.

Obs: I was cool because I had just had 2 hours of great action, and same thing on the day before, so I was not in the hunting mood. I wanted to relax.

So the guys keep teasing her, and she doesn't relax at all. She of course smiles and talk, but not throwing herself. Very reserved. So I imagine she is basically a hostess, and that's it. Don't mess with her. After all, it is a quite respectful hotel.

She comes closer to me while playing, so I say "You're good at pool", and we chat in between her strikes. When they're done (she wins) , she comes over and we chat a bit (and she is still serious, so I don't mess with her). And her english is excellent.

But she is hot, so I finally ask her if a lot of guys ask her out when they come here, and she says that yes, they do, but she chooses if she wants to go with the guy.

Bingo.

So I ask her how does she do it, and she says that depending on the guy's looks, talk, attitude, nationality, etc. And she says,"I need to choose, because I want to have a good time. I enjoy having sex, so I won't go just to do it. I want to go to really enjoy, I need it, I have no BF, so I have my needs and want to satisfy myself as well".

Double-Bingo.

I say that I agree with her, and say what's the point of not enjoying, not having fun. It's not only about the mechanical part, it's about making passionate love, etc, and she likes that.

At this point in time, I'm sitting and she is very close to me. And it's about 00:30h, so I ask her if I'd ask her out if she would like to go with me. She says "Of course I would: you're charming, handsome, why not?". And I'm wondering if I'll be able to handle another action time.

Positive: she asks my age and, before I say it, she says "I think we are same age, I was born in 69". Man, she looks way younger, and I'm really excited now, since I like older women (they know exactly what to do, always a great experience). I'm younger than her, so to not make her feel bad, I say "amazing, we are just 1 year apart, I'm 1 year older than you!".

She says she is free at 2am, which is too late for me, and I say, what about in the morning. 8am? She says "that's good, I can take some rest, we can have a better time".

Triple-Bingo.

We agree on the time, we keep smiling at each other, and she says quite embarassed "you know that I charge for it, right?". I politely say that yes, I understand that, and I'm fine with it. She asks rmb 1, 000 for 2 hours, and tells me that we can do whatever we feel like doing. Again she reminds me that she wants to enjoy it, and passion is important for her.

Quick calc: 1, 000 for her coming to my room? And no taxi fee involved. And she is really promising, so we agree.

She says that she feels sorry for charging me, but she needs to be honest to herself. She says she makes 2, 500 / month at the bar, and having to support parents and young sister, and she likes nice clothes, bags, so she needs the money.

I prefer this honesty. Specially because the way that we connected was great, and by having her telling all that, it made me trust her even more. And trust the time would be great.

And it was.

We say bye, and I go to bed waiting for the next day.

She comes at 8:15am. She kiss my lips and say "wait, I'll brush my teeth and have a shower". I wait for 10min or so, and she comes, fresh, beautiful, naked. I was with my underwear, so she comes over and starts kissing me with real passion. She stops, look at me ans says "This is going to be good". I undress and we continue to make out heavily. A lot of licking, soft biting, grabbing, touching, everything. GFE defines it.

She says "did you have some last night". I don't want to say yes, so I say,"no, why you ask?", she says "I'm ok if you had, because you're so horny, I think you need to f* everyday, don't you?".

Oh boy.

I go down for DATY, and she says she loves it, but she warns me that it will be difficult, because she uses a vibrator every day."What?", and she says "look, I have nobody, so I have to do it myself, I'm horny everyday, I need it".

She is a f-machine. The real one.

After that (she didn't reach the big-O yet) , we kiss again, and she moves to my friend down there and starts a great BBBJ, with a lot of saliva and such. No rush, VERY nice. After some good 3-4 mins, we kiss again, we lick each other, and I can't wait to cap it and go for it.

Cap on, we start it. It is one of the best f* I've had, I assure you. And since I had had some the previous days, I can control it pretty weell, so we go on it for almost 1 hour. She is really enjoying it (she said she would) , and keeps directing me to what she wants me to do. I recall in the beginning I was going too fast and she said "slowly makes me more horny".

Maaaan.

After all positions, and chatting in the middle, and dirty talk an all, I have to release it, and do so in the cap. She then contracts her muscles, and I'm in p-heaven. She milks me with her p. I see fireworks.

We kiss and she tells me "you came, what about me? Can you lick me more?".

I'm here for you milady.

Let me tell you this: I spent some good 10mins doing all possible movements with my tongue. My head was hurting, my muscles getting sore. She was enjoying, but I was not able to make her get there. Then, I feel her breathing changing. I finger her, and feel the same contraction and understand I'm on the right path. A few seconds later, she screams. But not a regular scream. I thought security would come and look for a murder. And she is almost crying. And then is smiling and laughing, and grabs me and kisses me with passion again. She says "the French call orgasms 'little death'".

Heck: how does she know it?

We shower and keep talking. This is the interesting part of the story: I never met such an intelligent and well-informed girl in China. She then tells me about what she already tried to do, but having no college degree, things are hard. And even with that, wages in China are terrible, so what to do? When I tell her what I do, I'm impressed to see that she can differentiate the technical side from the design from the commercial. Her questions are clever, she could easily be successful, but how fate works for some people?

We talk a lot, and I feel sorry for her. But she NEVER asks for anything. What an awesome person. And she basically agrees that she needs to move on.

SHe gives me her email and phone, and says that she doesn't know for how long she will stay in the bar, but would like to be in touch, but it's up to me."I don't want you to feel bad, so only reach me if you want to. I'm ok with it. You are a nice man, more people should be like you".

We get dressed, and she is on her way out. I hand her the money in an envelope. She thanks me, doesn't check the amount, put it into her purse, and we kiss for a long time. Then, she goes.

It was one of my best experiences, and a sad acknowledgement of what China is. Not that you don't know, but why smart people don't have a fair chance? Of course, she had her "demands" (clothes, etc.) , but it escapes me why she was not able to find something good and grow with it.

Long story, but I wanted to share it.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]