Jakarta

[QUOTE=Robert Long]Yah, and the fact that the $$$$$$$ signs aura that he has, says it all.

Women in most Asian countries, Singapore excluded, believe that a bald, fat, older man, any race, has big money. They do not care about the physical part as long as you have Money to maintain their needs.

Believe me, I have one of those high maintenance women in Bali. ;-)
RL[/QUOTE]

So you are saying that maybe I should forgo the diet, exercise, liposuction and hair plugs and just give them the money instead? I can do that!

So, the SPG's are where? Seriously...I've never been to an Asian mall with my hobby glasses on. Are they trying to sell me cologne, and I make them laugh and take them back to my hotel instead? Or are they roaming around in packs like any suburban mall in America? I'm totally serious about my ignorance...but I am SUCH a quick study!

[QUOTE=Menteng]I

SPG = Sales Promotion Girl (I think).[/QUOTE]

I've always used SPG to mean Sarong Party Girl, but I guess there are several translations. How about Special Position Given, or Sex Please Girl?!

[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet]I've always used SPG to mean Sarong Party Girl, but I guess there are several translations. How about Special Position Given, or Sex Please Girl?![/QUOTE]

Call it what you will, but it is Sales Promotion Girl..

[QUOTE=Gern]So you are saying that maybe I should forgo the diet, exercise, liposuction and hair plugs and just give them the money instead? I can do that!

So, the SPG's are where? Seriously...I've never been to an Asian mall with my hobby glasses on. Are they trying to sell me cologne, and I make them laugh and take them back to my hotel instead? Or are they roaming around in packs like any suburban mall in America? I'm totally serious about my ignorance...but I am SUCH a quick study![/QUOTE]


The cologne girls in the department stores! Those are your targets! They have to make their target (selling cologne) and that means that they have to do the approach. The rest is yours.
BTW, I have experienced that SPG's in pharmacists like Guardian and Century are also possibilities.

[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet]I've always used SPG to mean Sarong Party Girl, but I guess there are several translations.[/QUOTE]

That certainly applies in Singapore, though as more and more Westerners reside there, the SPGs have fallen in number. It literally was a term for a girl hunting white guys, because they were all rich. That fallacy seems to have sunk in with most Singa girls, hence the lack of SPGs now.

Actually, most Indonesian girls could be classed as SPGs in that case! Many of them are Sales Promotions Girls too ;-).

With lines like: "Buy two - one for you, one for me?" well you can't go too wrong. I've been meaning to try the counter "Ok - buy two, get you free" but you're welcome to have first shot at it.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, I take an interest renting a furnished flat for 10 days. I like Block M but every other interesting place is ok.

Some info, please?[/QUOTE]Krystal Hotel.

Two bedroom flat.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, I take an interest renting a furnished flat for 10 days. I like Block M but every other interesting place is ok.
Some info, please?[/QUOTE]

Aston Tower or, almost in the middle of the action, the apartments above The Club (Bali Hai). In the latest you will be back to back with jalan Faletehan I, the street with My Bar, Top Gun, D's Place etc. Not a posh place, but hey, you can even get a BJ downstairs in the bar :D

[QUOTE=Koperen Ko]Agree fully. Tutik (pronounced Tuti; in Bahasa Indonesia a k at the end of a word is silent) is one of my favourites. Good looking, gives a very good BBBJ and a nice pussy. She will be seeing me again.[/QUOTE]Sorry for this late addition. Have been both busy with other, less important, things and being forgetful. Here are 2 pictures of of the lovely Tutik. One in Maribaya and one in my hotelroom. That time she was together with Sari who unfortunately has quit working in Maribaya and returned to the Kampung.

GERN - SPG's - Sales Promotion Girls in this context are the easiest to "get" in the malls for the obvious reason that you can approach them very easily. Presumably you have read the forum and Menteng's recent comments in particular. But I have to challenge Menteng a little when he says "if [he] can do it anybody can" because he is certainly not frightened to "go for it" - most people are. Obviously if you don't try you won't succeed; the risk is zero, not even humiliation because the worst you'll get is a polite "no".

[QUOTE=Menteng]Aston Tower or, almost in the middle of the action, the apartments above The Club (Bali Hai).[/QUOTE]

Menteng, thanks for your wonderful news. But I hope Aston Tower is not an hotel with furnished flats. I don't like hotels. I like a private furnished flat, even if it is not enough good.
thanks again.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Menteng, thanks for your wonderful news. But I hope Aston Tower is not an hotel with furnished flats. I don't like hotels. I like a private furnished flat, even if it is not enough good.
thanks again.[/QUOTE]

So try your luck at The Club/Bali Hai. It is located on Jalan Sultan Hasanuddin, almost next to the exit of the buses from the Terminal Blok M. To be more precisely, it is to the left of that exit (at the right side of the exit is Pasaraya Grande). A bank (BRI?) is on the corner and next to it is The Club. Hardly any sign, but look for the Bali Hai (beer) sign. It is the entrance to the bar. Ask for the owner, since you would like to rent an apt for a longer period. For shorttimes/hours, you can negociate with the barista.

[QUOTE=Bulai69]GERN - SPG's - Sales Promotion Girls in this context are the easiest to "get" in the malls for the obvious reason that you can approach them very easily. Presumably you have read the forum and Menteng's recent comments in particular. But I have to challenge Menteng a little when he says "if [he] can do it anybody can" because he is certainly not frightened to "go for it" - most people are. Obviously if you don't try you won't succeed; the risk is zero, not even humiliation because the worst you'll get is a polite "no".[/QUOTE]


Thinking of it, you are the only ISG member I went hunting with that went for it also. We were brothers in arms. Remember the Hugo Boss girl in PI? Or others like the girl who was going to prepare pasta or the one who wanted a bule because they are rich in PS? Ah, memories :)

[QUOTE=Menteng]So try your luck at The Club/Bali Hai. It is located on Jalan Sultan Hasanuddin, almost next to the exit of the buses from the Terminal Blok M. To be more precisely, it is to the left of that exit (at the right side of the exit is Pasaraya Grande). A bank (BRI?) is on the corner and next to it is The Club. Hardly any sign, but look for the Bali Hai (beer) sign. It is the entrance to the bar. Ask for the owner, since you would like to rent an apt for a longer period. For shorttimes/hours, you can negociate with the barista.[/QUOTE]

I thought I had heard (seen last time I drove by) that the Club (aka Bali Hai) had closed. Is this illustrious place still open?

[QUOTE=Menteng]So try your luck at The Club/Bali Hai.[/QUOTE]

It is impossible to find news about aka Bali Hai on Internet. I need an email because before departing I like to book a furnished flat. Very very hard (impossible) to pick up news.

Ok. I have as few lady friends in Jakarta who I've met sand scored with, engaged to other guys. I had one recently telling her bf calling from Ireland that everything was fine, when she was actually naked in my bed. So I know they are not entirely loyal to say the least.

But recently had the best case yet of disloyalty.

Few months back got chatting with a Jakarta lady. Cute, and I was looking forward to meeting her in Jakarta. At same time as I had a Jakarta trip she then had a Singapore trip. Lost contact after that till I get an sms last week, telling me shes in KL for a few days (where I live).

Shes staying in some guys apartment in Mont Kiara, but he was at work so went to meet her and took her to lunch. First day, we chat chat. Second day I take her back to the apartment after lunch.

She invites me in, we sit on sofa and she gives me the "look". Eyes wide open, biting lower lips etc. Start making out and then we have sex on the guys sofa. Great fun and yes, I checked there were no stains LOL.

These girls rock. And yes I'm glad the guy didn't make an unexpected trip home!

[QUOTE=MrBill1963]I thought I had heard (seen last time I drove by) that the Club (aka Bali Hai) had closed. Is this illustrious place still open?[/QUOTE]

Maybe Blok M adepts can give information on this? I would have checked, but I'm in a far far away country at this moment.

The last I heard Balai Hai (aka The Club) was closing its doors at 10pm, which pretty much rules it out as a place to use for overnight stays. More than that the sleazy, grim atmosphere of the Club along with most of its old warhorses have simply transferred their pitch to D's Place where they go about their old tricks in the old way but in a new location.

Anyone familiar with the old D's Place would be shocked to discover how dreadfully cheap and tawdry it has become of late. The few remaining members of the former staff (and that includes your old friend F, Menteng) seem decidedly uncomfortable working there now and are very much out of place in the down-market dump it has been transformed into.

Dear All,

Any gals I can get near to Grand Kemang Hotel? or any call in service?

Can anyone pm me on this?

Million thanks in advance!!

Walter33

[QUOTE=Dorman]The last I heard Balai Hai (aka The Club) was closing its doors at 10pm, which pretty much rules it out as a place to use for overnight stays. More than that the sleazy, grim atmosphere of the Club along with most of its old warhorses have simply transferred their pitch to D's Place where they go about their old tricks in the old way but in a new location.

Anyone familiar with the old D's Place would be shocked to discover how dreadfully cheap and tawdry it has become of late. The few remaining members of the former staff (and that includes your old friend F, Menteng) seem decidedly uncomfortable working there now and are very much out of place in the down-market dump it has been transformed into.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the response. Since your narrow escape in the night once, I only used the apt's during daytime. But, if the apt's are still there, they may serve Foxeshunter.

[quote=john aldrich]xerus,

while 17 years is legal age for a girl to get married in indonesia and even vote in the elections, isg considers that having sex with anyone less than 18 as **** and any posting about having had sex with a girl below 18 years is not allowed in this forum. you may want to edit the age factor, since many girls in asean look 14 to 17, while they would acutally be 20+. that way, you will be in the right side of the forum's posting policy.

cheers[/quote]

just wanted to share this with all forumers , according to interpol web site @ [url]http://www.interpol.int/public/children/sexualabuse/nationallaws/csaindonesia.asp[/url] ;

i. ages for legal purposes


age of simple majority

according to the indonesian civil code 18 years for males and 15 years for females. according to indonesian penal code **** means any body that has not reached 16 years.

age of consent for sexual activity

for male 19 years, for female 16 years.

age of consent for marriage

for male 18 years for female 15 years.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

however the forum does not allow reports for girls under the age of 18 as i checked, so perhaps some editing may be required xerus!

take care!

kl guy

indeed it's a mind opening issue for me relating to the consent age for sexual activities in various countries , which i found out thanks to j.a. and kl. i' should be more cautious in writing the next time.

does this means i can go for a 16 years old ( age of consent allowed by indonesian law ) , then write it as 61 in this thread ? :-)





[quote=kl guy]just wanted to share this with all forumers , according to interpol web site @ [url]http://www.interpol.int/public/children/sexualabuse/nationallaws/csaindonesia.asp[/url] ;

i. ages for legal purposes


age of simple majority

according to the indonesian civil code 18 years for males and 15 years for females. according to indonesian penal code **** means any body that has not reached 16 years.

age of consent for sexual activity

for male 19 years, for female 16 years.

age of consent for marriage

for male 18 years for female 15 years.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

however the forum does not allow reports for girls under the age of 18 as i checked, so perhaps some editing may be required xerus!

take care!

kl guy[/quote]

Dear ISG readers,

Some business issues made me go for a yet another trip to Jakarta. But I didn't mind too much ;-) and was quite happy when my boss sent me away.

This time I stayed at the Sheraton on Gudung Sahari, northern JKT. A little research reviled that the hotel next door, Orchardz Hotel, had a very promising spa. So yesterday I decided to sample it.

Came there 7 p m. Once you come in through the reception there is a bright sign telling you to take a right to the dedicated elevator behind the ground-level cafe/bar area. The spa is located on the 3rd floor, and the first thing I saw was a sign saying "MAN ONLY". Promising, hmm.

After being given the bracelet/locker key I proceeded to the spa section. It contains of two pools, some gym equipment, and a dry sauna. Relaxed in the hot pool for a while, end then went for a shower. The next station is the theater room which actually is a lounge including the GRO desk. She informed about the available packages, and I opted for the 'Butterfly all in' one. It consists of body massage, cat bath and FJ for 90 minutes in a VVIP room.

Your masseuse is selected by the booking girl. For some this may be an issue, but usually they know which girls that are comfortable in serving non-Indonesians and I usually go with their recommendation. This time I got a 23 y o native Jakarta girl with passable English skills, and a great rack. I'm a boobs-man and these babies where just what the doctor ordered.

The room was spacious, had a big shower area and a massage bed with enough mirrors to ensure no angle stays out of view. The session started with an all nude body massage using oil and tits. A small patch of pubic hair ensured my skin was properly exfoliated. One funny thing was that she used a small towel over my head to ensure that the oil on her pelvis area would get my hair oily. Classy.

Once the show came to an end we moved into the shower. It had a strange looking chair. Turned out it was used for 'Japanese shower', so on top of the first treatment I got a second round of massage as she cleaned off all the oil from my skin. She cleaned and massaged me everywhere, and I left the place feeling like I'd been to the perfect mix of spa treatment and sex.

Stats:
Girl: 23 y o with unbelievably firm D-cup chest
Body: slightly chubby but those killer tits made up for that
Body massage: 4/5
HJ: 4/5 (lot of anal play)
BJ: n/a
FJ: 5/5 (slow and sensitive using both tongue and fingers)
Damage cost: 650K Rp plus 100K tip
Rematch: yes

Link to establishment as reference: [url]http://jakarta.orchardzhotel.com/facilities.asp?Fasilitas=4[/url]

I saw some more beauties on the way out so there is defiantly a place worth a visit or two ;-)

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Hey,

If you want slim/skinny women go where they hate western(food) like Thailand ( a thai will eat thai even when they are abroad) or go to poor cities without money and keep your wallet closed as much as possible to keep them like that. Take them (skinny) to the Disco instead of to the restaurant too.

Ronald

[QUOTE=Dorman]I was in one of the hotel massage parlours the other week and I was asked my preference; "slim or sexy", naturally I opted for sexy, what man doesn't want a sexy woman? I should have paid more attention to the "or" bit, my assistant certainly was a bit on the well padded side. Actually she was great fun and I didn't regret it but I won't take the same chance again and it will definitely be "slim" the next time, so take care.

I agree that the curse of cheap carbohydrates has struck Indonesia badly, there really are quite an astonishingly high number of fuller figured women now than there were before. I suppose we can't really complain as they're still a hell of a lot lighter than their Caucasian counterparts (have you seen the size of western girls lately? It's getting quite shocking) and I'm no size zero myself.

Prosperity is a good thing and we must accept that it's better the women of Indonesia have too much too much to eat rather than too little but still it's a shame to see the number of big backsides and pot bellies ruining the lovely figures of what are the prettiest girls on earth.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dorman]Anyone familiar with the old D's Place would be shocked to discover how dreadfully cheap and tawdry it has become of late. The few remaining members of the former staff (and that includes your old friend F, Menteng) seem decidedly uncomfortable working there now and are very much out of place in the down-market dump it has been transformed into.[/QUOTE]I visited D's last summer a few times and I don't agree with you.

D's is still a place where you can go for a drink and, if you want, chat wth other expats. It is also, as it has always been, a good place to score an LBFM. They have made the bar a little mor "risqué" by adding the VIP-room but that is reasonably discrete. All nudity and naughty activities are kept behind closed doors, albeit unlocked.

[QUOTE=Koperen Ko]I visited D's last summer a few times and I don't agree with you.

D's is still a place where you can go for a drink and, if you want, chat wth other expats. It is also, as it has always been, a good place to score an LBFM. They have made the bar a little mor "risqué" by adding the VIP-room but that is reasonably discrete. All nudity and naughty activities are kept behind closed doors, albeit unlocked.[/QUOTE]


Was at Blok M last week and went over along the whole alley and walked into all the bars for a quick check. It was a Wed night ! Top Gun was full to the brim but D' place was literary DEAD ! However , the one beside D Place ( forgot the name ) was booming with activities, split over from Top Gun, i presume as familiar faces appearing at both places . !

Back in Jakarta after a (too) long period of absence, I took off to Kartika on my first free minute.

In the beginning all seem like I left about two years ago. Took my time even if some girls were quite pushing and finally ended up choosinf a nice one named Rizky, offered her a drink and went up to the room.

Service good as widely discussed on this forum and as I had in my memories from two years ago.

But in the end, when already dressed up and leaving the room, I wanted to tip her (still remembering that the ongoing rate used to be 50k), and since she was quite nice I gave her 100k, which she did't like at all, started to act bitchy saying that the ongoing tips are 200k (? ! ? ). I tried to explain her that I am not new to the place and that I knew the ongoing rates. Swearing in indonesian she accompanied me down to tha cashier where I paid my 300k and then I sat at the bar for another drink.

While I went to the bar she shouted to the bartender not to forget to charge the drinks I had before going to the room.

I found it very rude and so I asked the elder lady who I believe is the mamasan, if they are scared that I wouldn't pay my bill or what. The mamasan apologized immediately and wanted to offer my a drink, which I friendly denied, payed and left. Any simlar experiences in that place or in any other "well known establishment" in Jakarta? I did not notice reading the forum that things have deteriorated that much in the Big Durian

Cheers,

CF68

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[QUOTE=Xerus]
Then headed next, to Stadium. Paid the 70 K entrance fee and sat beside the bar . Then came a young and sweet girl, Iyma ... yes young means 17 .. ... and she suggested if we could go for a 1 hour session on the top floor. why not ? curios on how this 17 year would perform and for 100K as agreed, we were totally naked in a matter of seconds ! I was pleasantly surprised how a small frame like her could fuck the hell of me ... but she did enthusiasically and trying to please me in every way , including a short massage ! By the way, the stadium management charges a rental rate of Rp 290 K .
[/QUOTE]

I visited Stadium 2 nights when I was there recently. A word of warning, on Sunday night/Monday morning it was packed and twice someone attempted to pick my bag which only contained some simple stuff. I witness an attempt to also pick a bule's wallet from his pocket while he was dirty dancing with his partner! My last visit was on Tuesday night and luckily it wasn't packed. I spoke to my friends of 2 groups/type about Stadium. First is a gay guy and second is a ABG girl of 18 years of age. Both confirmed that there are some girls who are willing to sleep with you if you're willing to pay for their drinks and pay for their pills intake (According to a good friend whom is no longer active in this forum, the person paying for the pills can be caught and bothered by the cops too!) So I'm not surprised the girl agreed to sleep for 100K but indeed you have to be on the lookout and not stingy if this is your game!

When I was there a couple of years ago a very cute Chinese girl, with Japanese inspired dressing approached me but unfortunately I was already there with a partner. Be warned drugs is a major offense and if caught and you cant get your way out of it, death penalty is a possibility on top of losing your virginity to guys in the prison.

I watch how some 'Om' like me was rejected by some quite cute looking girls. I was already with a girl whom in my personal opinion my best ever find in Jakarta!

[QUOTE=Crazyfish68]Back in Jakarta after a (too) long period of absence, I took off to Kartika on my first free minute.

In the beginning all seem like I left about two years ago. Took my time even if some girls were quite pushing and finally ended up choosinf a nice one named Rizky, offered her a drink and went up to the room.

Service good as widely discussed on this forum and as I had in my memories from two years ago.

But in the end, when already dressed up and leaving the room, I wanted to tip her (still remembering that the ongoing rate used to be 50k), and since she was quite nice I gave her 100k, which she did't like at all, started to act bitchy saying that the ongoing tips are 200k (? ! ? ). I tried to explain her that I am not new to the place and that I knew the ongoing rates. Swearing in indonesian she accompanied me down to tha cashier where I paid my 300k and then I sat at the bar for another drink.

While I went to the bar she shouted to the bartender not to forget to charge the drinks I had before going to the room.

I found it very rude and so I asked the elder lady who I believe is the mamasan, if they are scared that I wouldn't pay my bill or what. The mamasan apologized immediately and wanted to offer my a drink, which I friendly denied, payed and left. Any simlar experiences in that place or in any other "well known establishment" in Jakarta? I did not notice reading the forum that things have deteriorated that much in the Big Durian

Cheers,

CF68

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Thanks for your post. What you described is not normal behavior at Kartika, and the tip amount has definitely not gone up to 200,000 rupiah! My guess is that you ended up with one of the few bad/greedy girls working there, who must have been having a bad day or severe financial pressures in her life.

Whenever a situation like this happens, don't be afraid to complain to the mamasan (as you did) - they will usually do their best to fix the situation. I've visited Kartika at least 70 or 80 times over the last five years, and only had one experience as bad as yours. I immediately complained to the mamasan and they waived the room fee on the spot, without my even asking. Not only that, when I came back 5 days later, I learned that that particular girl was no longer working there, that Kartika management had fired her. I'm not sure if that was a direct result of my complaint, or if several customers had complained, but the bottom line is that no place will put up with girls who hurt business.

[QUOTE=KL Guy]I visited Stadium 2 nights when I was there recently. A word of warning, on Sunday night/Monday morning it was packed and twice someone attempted to pick my bag which only contained some simple stuff. I witness an attempt to also pick a bule's wallet from his pocket while he was dirty dancing with his partner! My last visit was on Tuesday night and luckily it wasn't packed. I spoke to my friends of 2 groups/type about Stadium. First is a gay guy and second is a ABG girl of 18 years of age. Both confirmed that there are some girls who are willing to sleep with you if you're willing to pay for their drinks and pay for their pills intake (According to a good friend whom is no longer active in this forum, the person paying for the pills can be caught and bothered by the cops too!) So I'm not surprised the girl agreed to sleep for 100K but indeed you have to be on the lookout and not stingy if this is your game!

When I was there a couple of years ago a very cute Chinese girl, with Japanese inspired dressing approached me but unfortunately I was already there with a partner. Be warned drugs is a major offense and if caught and you cant get your way out of it, death penalty is a possibility on top of losing your virginity to guys in the prison.

I watch how some 'Om' like me was rejected by some quite cute looking girls. I was already with a girl whom in my personal opinion my best ever find in Jakarta![/QUOTE]


Thanks for the info KLG .. however I'm glad that Iyma came clean without any mentioning of drugs or even drinks ! The $ deal was negotiated upfront which was " anything - up to u ". I liked it but didn't want to be cheapskate so i pressed for a figure. I' gave her the higher of the 50K or 100K , which was what she normally gets from her clientele.

Looks like I will use the " Black ant " the next time and pay her double !

[QUOTE=KL Guy] I spoke to my friends of 2 groups/type about Stadium. First is a gay guy and second is a ABG girl of 18 years of age. [/QUOTE]

Is this gay guy our mutual friend Mr. A? If so, what a surprise! I didn't know he was still around.

[QUOTE=Menteng]Is this gay guy our mutual friend Mr. A? If so, what a surprise! I didn't know he was still around.[/QUOTE]

Indeed he is but no longer stays in Jakarta Central but in Depok. But having spoken to him a couple of hours ago on the phone he may move to Bogor as he has a new job opening there!

3rd Nov 2009

It's been a long time since I've been to Jakarta and after some recent bad times overall in my life I decided to take a break in Jakarta. Took the KLM flight to Jak coz I wanted to try the Boeing 777-300 planes that I've heard so much. Nice & simple journey and indeed big difference between planes of AirAsia and KLM, comfort and service, in my case was worth every rupiah coz the flight fare @ RM370 was cheaper than AA for last minute flight booking. Glad I booked KLM coz last minute I had a meeting rescheduled and even though I had check in online, I was lucky enough to change th flight with a normal fee of RM100 @ USD29, now no way are you going to get your $ back when your flight leaves in 8 hours from AA!

As I tried to stay in few apartments but after the bombing most apartments have had their apartments rental price raised and since I have corporate rate at the new Akmani Hotel right in the middle of town I said why not? This was to be my humble abode for the next 8 days and a good & strategic place to stay!

As usual called my friend Mr A and he hooked me up with 2 girls whom both wanted to come back with me. One had a nice body and sexy face the other was mediocre so I had only wanted 1. But unfortunately coz both of them stay out of Jakarta she asked her friend to stay and this affected our sex play.

Name: Novi
Location: Jakarta FL who works as a waitress in Jakarta CBD
Face: OK and she does have a nice CFM look when having sex
Body: OK a bit on the plump side
Boobs: OK, not for boobs lover
FK: OK
Catbath: None coz her friend was sleeping next to us
BBBJ: None as above
FJ : I all of the work
GFE: Not recommended but perhaps coz her friend slept next to us! ;)
WIR: Only if friend is not there coz I like her sexy body!
Damage: 500,000IDR for ON but only till 6am

Hi Guys,

I live in Singapore but have a chance to get to Jakarta in two weeks time. I've RTFF and have found some great information but I have a question. I may be in Jakarta during the Hari Raya Haji holiday. Will that impact mongering over that weekend? I would get there on the Wednesday before and leave on the Saturday or Sunday and would definitely be looking for some fun playmates during that time. I've read about Blok M and some of the other places like Stadium etc. And just want to make sure they'll be open, serving alcohol and have plenty of girls around to take back to my hotel. If you think this will be a problem or that the girls will be heading home and bars closed, please let me know.

Thanks for the all the great reports and hoping I get my virgin trip to Jakarta soon.

AF

[QUOTE=Asian Flava] Will that impact mongering over that weekend?[/QUOTE]

Short answer, yes.

HR Idul Adha is a mini Idul Fitri and has a tendency to screw up plans as it is not widely known about. The bars will shut early on Thursday night (by early I mean about 8 or 9 pm so to all intents and purposes they needn't bother opening) all the bars will be shut on Friday with business as usual resuming on Saturday. This would appear to wipe out a sizeable chunk of your trip, my suggestion would be to work the phones now to line up any old contacts you may have or to collect as many numbers as possible on Wednesday night with promises to call them during the shut down. It's not like Idul Fitri where the girls leave town, they will be around but somewhat harder to locate.

I was pleased to meet my two friends from this forum on my recent trip - you know who you are!

Worth reporting is our visit to Atrium: I think it was a Sunday evening and Monday evening around 7pm. Both occasions, unlike my last trip were hopeless. On Sunday, in over around an hour, I "found" around 6 or 7 girls/women but they were completely unacceptable bar one who was very marginal. Neither I nor my friend wanted here but I got her hp number; her main merit was that she was quite young - maybe around 20, average looking but too fat. The Monday night was even worse - as my friend was buying DVD's I carried on hunting and in my desperation picked up what turned out to be a ladyboy! I must stress the realisation occured as soon as I sat down and talked to him/her - i.e. well be before it mattered. Although the ladyboy was (obviously!) dissapointed at my apparant about-turn in interest he made several calls to "real" girls he knew but they were all busy. I gave him 50k for his efforts and to cover my slight embarrasment. It must be said he/she was without doubt the best looking "girl" in the place that night!

Prompted by a passing comment in a recent report by Asian Rain I would like to get views on a theory I've held for some time around pricing - especially in places like BATS. I know the "how much should I pay" issue is often raised -but not as far as I can recall this specific point.

I never negotiate price up front - mainly I have to admit because I find it something of a turn off and I like proceed under the (admittedly ludicrous) illusions that the girl actually likes me!

In fact I think there is a more valid reason for not agreeing a price in advance: the cost is likely to be lower and I don't mean ripping the girl off, I mean she will jack the price up significantly if you discuss price up front. One example doesn't prove anything - but here is one.

Last week I went to BATS with my friend, we each found girls who were our respective "types" and broadly similar in standard. He agreed upfront to pay 1 juta and his "service" was in his words "a disaster". I didn't discuss price with "my girl" and she didn't raise it. At the end of my session I offered 500k (I would have paid 1 juta instantly if she'd asked for it) and she snapped my hand off not even asking for "small money" for the taxi - and I got stupendous service.

She was happy to have photos taken and didn't mind if I "advertised" her which I will do when I've uploaded some.

Any views on this issue?

[QUOTE=Bulai69]
Any views on this issue?[/QUOTE]

Old school, maybe but I pay for the girl to leave and don't want to be hassled with an argument when we're done. So when I'm at Blok M or a go go bar on Soi Cowboy, I always agree on price up front.

On the other hand, in places where I am a regular and/or in cases when I get a number from a 'friend', I usually don't discuss price. Service is usually good to great and I pay accordingly.

Bulai,

Good subject for a discussion. I have frequently avoided discussing price and like you I find 'I will do X for $Y' negotiations a little distasteful. If you are both *sure* you understand each other the 'no disussion of price' strategy can work very well.

I think it needs a few things in place to work - a girl who isn't too mercenary for a start, and a guy who can make the girl feel confident he knows what is 'fair reward' in the circumstances and she'll be 'seen right' at the end of the encounter.

I've often gone the no price discussed route in Singapore and BKK without any problems. Where I'm careful is where expectations on either side of the deal
may be mismatched - taking a Geylang SW LT for instance.

It also isn't a strategy for the inexperienced. Any P4P girl has a sixth sense for the greenhorn in her market and for some 'no price discussion' may be a route to demanding top dollar later. Those experienced in a particular market, say Block M or OT will be less of a target and more likely to spot this trick coming.

One reason I think it works, and does seem to lead to good service, is that the type of girls willing to take this route are not the most moneygrabbing and to some extent look on it slightly more as a 'date' - or at least something not too unpleasant rather than as a 'do X for $Y' transaction. We all know it's a business, but sometimes the rapport and to some extent friendship with the girls can be genuine.




[QUOTE=Bulai69]Prompted by a passing comment in a recent report by Asian Rain I would like to get views on a theory I've held for some time around pricing - especially in places like BATS. I know the "how much should I pay" issue is often raised -but not as far as I can recall this specific point.

I never negotiate price up front - mainly I have to admit because I find it something of a turn off and I like proceed under the (admittedly ludicrous) illusions that the girl actually likes me!

In fact I think there is a more valid reason for not agreeing a price in advance: the cost is likely to be lower and I don't mean ripping the girl off, I mean she will jack the price up significantly if you discuss price up front. One example doesn't prove anything - but here is one.

Last week I went to BATS with my friend, we each found girls who were our respective "types" and broadly similar in standard. He agreed upfront to pay 1 juta and his "service" was in his words "a disaster". I didn't discuss price with "my girl" and she didn't raise it. At the end of my session I offered 500k (I would have paid 1 juta instantly if she'd asked for it) and she snapped my hand off not even asking for "small money" for the taxi - and I got stupendous service.

She was happy to have photos taken and didn't mind if I "advertised" her which I will do when I've uploaded some.

Any views on this issue?[/QUOTE]

Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa.

I said I posted all, but look what you can find with some effort.

Pictures fom 2007. More will follow.

Other people musthave pictures of this little gem. Please post them.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Blair]

It also isn't a strategy for the inexperienced. Any P4P girl has a sixth sense for the greenhorn in her market [/QUOTE]

Great point!

[QUOTE=Blair]
One reason I think it works, and does seem to lead to good service, is that the type of girls willing to take this route are not the most moneygrabbing and to some extent look on it slightly more as a 'date' - or at least something not too unpleasant rather than as a 'do X for $Y' transaction. We all know it's a business, but sometimes the rapport and to some extent friendship with the girls can be genuine.[/QUOTE]

And experienced mongers also have their 'sixth sense' about non-money grabbers ;)

Hi; I am thinking to bring with me some porn DVDs. Do you know if girls like to see them? Above all will I have some problem with indonesian customs agents?
Thanks

Don't bring them in, Foxes. If they catch you. Of course, like everywhere, also here the girls like to watch porn. You easily can buy them in Glodok area, the Chinese part of Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Koperen Ko]Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa.

I said I posted all, but look what you can find with some effort.

Pictures fom 2007. More will follow.

Other people musthave pictures of this little gem. Please post them.

Enjoy[/QUOTE]Sorry.

These Pictures should of course have been posted in the Photo Gallery.

Please forgive me:.)

Regards

Koperen Ko

[QUOTE=Bulai69]...I never negotiate price up front - mainly I have to admit because I find it something of a turn off and I like proceed under the (admittedly ludicrous) illusions that the girl actually likes me!...

...Any views on this issue?[/QUOTE]

I monger in all the capital cities in SE Asia and this is my approach exactly, Bulai69. China is an exception - everyone knows the prices and sticks to it, not a yuan more, not a yuan less.

For example, KTVs are 2-5-8 (RMB200 for sitting, RMB500 for ST, RMB800 for LT), etc.

A close buddy of mine has a more mercenary approach - he treats each encounter as a freebie by default. ie, he never negotiates up front AND he doesnt pay unless she brings it up.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi; I am thinking to bring with me some porn DVDs. Do you know if girls like to see them? Above all will I have some problem with indonesian customs agents?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I'm my experience, girls who haven't seen it before can get a kick out of watching.

Case in point, last weekend in Manila I had bought a few porn dvds with me to motel where I was with a girl, and she asked me to put it on, as soon as we got there. Basically she didn't pay much attention after we got to work and the sound of fakes ooohs and aaaahs were a bit irritating, but overall it seems to work.

I usually have one or two discs with my pc bag, and have never had problem with immgration. After all, you can buy porn dvds in all south east asian countries, even if frowned on.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi; I am thinking to bring with me some porn DVDs. Do you know if girls like to see them? Above all will I have some problem with indonesian customs agents?

Thanks[/QUOTE]No need to bring porn DVDs to Indonesia: they are plentiful and cheap (less than $1.00) at a number of locations in kota, including just outside Glodok on Jl. Hyam Wuruk (at the underpass).

Why bring a sandwich to a smorgasbord?

Bule 2004

[QUOTE=Bule2004]
Why bring a sandwich to a smorgasbord?
Bule 2004[/QUOTE]

Only because I will bring with me the best DVDs in high definition. ;)

[QUOTE=Bulai69]Worth reporting is our visit to Atrium: I think it was a Sunday evening and Monday evening around 7pm. Both occasions, unlike my last trip were hopeless. On Sunday, in over around an hour, I "found" around 6 or 7 girls/women but they were completely unacceptable bar one who was very marginal. Neither I nor my friend wanted here but I got her hp number; her main merit was that she was quite young - maybe around 20, average looking but too fat..[/QUOTE]Bulai69,

Many thanks, I share similar dry experiences in Atrium this year. Have you perhaps tried the Sarinah department store recently?

On some visits a few months back, I noticed some girls with tell-tale signs of being available and at the adjacent Macca's, walking into the restroom area, one actually followed under the pretense she wanted to improve her English language skills. Not that I'm very good at that, but she looked gorgeous and I could have made a great teacher.

At the time I was going out with this hot girlfriend and taking down miss gorgeous details could have turned a little stressful, but things looked up here and reminded me of the time the old Jakarta Hard Rock cafe was still a happening place (sigh..). Best.

I agree with your analysis especially the final paragraph. The girl in my example has emailed me a few times as well since I returned to UK - admittedly asking for "oleh2" when I return to JKT - but my guess is that the one who asked for twice and much and delivered less than half the service hasn't.

[QUOTE=Tommy Suharto]I share similar dry experiences in Atrium this year. Have you perhaps tried the Sarinah department store recently?[/quote]
I'd recommend Plaza Indonesia, opposite of Mandarin Oriental.
[quote]reminded me of the time the old Jakarta Hard Rock cafe was still a happening place (sigh..). Best.[/QUOTE]
Yes, remember those days as well...... Too bad that it's gone :(

Cheers!

Re Atrium, there is plenty there and you can also check out the Rukko area behind but YMMV.

[QUOTE=Ekspat]I'd recommend Plaza Indonesia, opposite of Mandarin Oriental.
[/QUOTE]
Obviously the type of shops . . . and therefore shoppers are different between what is perhaps a 2- or 3-star mall (Atrium) versus a 5-star mall in terms of image. But what I mean by the vibe is that you are not very likely to find many free-lancers hanging around the mall railings and looking down/up/around. Because the mall security in PI is generally onto them pretty quickly. On the other hand, I have had mall security solicit me with "you want girl?" and a business-card to call a provider - so you might consider approaching one of the fellows and asking . . . perhaps slipping him 5 or 10 thousand rupes for his trouble.

A year or so ago I recall posting about spotting the notorious Madam Vina pimping her girls - and I even banged one that I rented from her in PI - but haven't seen much of her lately. Rent-a-poon from Vina-types and her stable are more likely to be spotted OUTside of PI, on the pavement facing the traffic circle. And if you don't see anyone obvious handing out cards, you can probably find success out there simply by asking around.

I have spotted the odd girl in the mall, at the bottom of one or another of the escalators, in an obvious "trolling for business" pose, but that isn't so common, lately. If you want to try your luck INside, then your better bet is to go down to the lowest level of Plaza Indonesia and work the food-court. If you are a good-looking guy, you may have success just cruising through the hall-ways, or parking yourself at one of the coffee-bars . . . starbucks, coffee-bean, dome . . . but according to me, those are low-percentage success scenarios. Bottom floor is best - second best is the extension to PI that stretches out toward the (crappy) new Hard Rock Cafe. There is a fitness club half-way down the extension-mall hallway where I have girl-watched before - one pickup from perhaps a dozen attempts. Worth checking out, but best to have a backup plan.

Aside from free-lancers prowling the mall - not many of those - the strategy of hitting on shop-girls works about as well in PI as most places. The thing you have going for you in many PI stores is low volume of customer traffic, except in a few anchor stores like Sogo. The thing you have going AGAINST you, is that many of the customers are well-heeled and well-dressed, so if you look scruffy, the shop-girls may turn up their noses at you.

The problem with hitting on shop-girls is that it doesn't work so well for "right now", because generally they have to work until quitting time. So consider turning up at PI around quarter-past-nine and hanging in one of the coffee-bars near to an exit. Some of the shops close early, and all of them close by 10 pm. Peak period for employees streaming out of the mall is around 9:45 in my experience, and it's pretty much dead by shortly after 10. If you want a "right now" pickup from a shop-girl, that may be your best shot. But according to me, the best pickings in PI come during the late afternoon and early evening in and around the basement food-court. Not nearly as easy to pull poon out of PI as from Atrium though - the poon is there, but you need a sharper eye in PI. Maybe don't choose Plaza Indonesia for your virgin mall-hunting experience. Just my opinion . . . other comments welcome!

That's my comment - now a question - has anyone ever scored with one of the hot-looking information-counter girls just behind the restaurant in the centre of the PI atrium ? I flirt with them often, and they flirt back, but I've never gotten a serious "hey, hit on me please Mister, vibe" from any of them, so I haven't closed. Hats off to anyone who has done!

Heading back to Jkt after a 10 yr absence. Any one have a simple list of some of the 'more important words' in Bahasa that will help a fellow in his search for some p4p?

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]Heading back to Jkt after a 10 yr absence. Any one have a simple list of some of the 'more important words' in Bahasa that will help a fellow in his search for some p4p?[/QUOTE]
Friend, unless you are looking far off the beaten track - for example going to Indramayu to taste pussy direct from the poon-factory (grin) - then you don't really need bahasa Indonesia to pull working girls.

Visit any of the usual places posted about here . . . hotel Travel, Kartika, Berlian, Maribaya, the Blok-M bars on Jalan Falatehan, the big 3 hotel-hooker bars - BATS, CJ's and Tiga Puloh - and many, many others among the pussy-paradise branch outlets of Jakarta . . . and most girls will speak enough English for you to have at least a simple conversation with them. Quite a few will speak English nearly as well as a native-speaker. And even the limited-English "fresh from the kompong" ayams will know why you have come to their poon-purveying-places-of-prostitution. You will be fine even if you remain Indonesian-challenged. That's part of what makes Indonesia such fabulous fun for fucking females.

And if you are serious about learning some local language, just buy yourself a phrasebook (low-end), or a "learn to speak Indonesian" CD-plus-book set for perhaps $30 or so, and work on the basic pleasantries of introductions, finding your way around and - perhaps most important - counting in Indonesian, so you can negotiate price with even a woman without any English. Worst case, you write your offer numbers on a cock-tail napkin - Arabic numerals are universal. And Indonesian is perhaps the easiest language in Asia to learn. For advanced nakal topics - e.g. jembut (pubic hair), itil (clitoris) and so on - part of the service included with any friendly has-a-hole is talking-dictionary. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]Obviously the type of shops. And therefore shoppers are different between what is perhaps a 2- or 3-star mall (Atrium) versus a 5-star mall in terms of image. But what I mean by the vibe is that you are not very likely to find many free-lancers hanging around the mall railings and looking down/up/around. Because the mall security in PI is generally onto them pretty quickly. On the other hand, I have had mall security solicit me with "you want girl? " and a business-card to call a provider. So you might consider approaching one of the fellows and asking. Perhaps slipping him 5 or 10 thousand rupes for his trouble.

A year or so ago I recall posting about spotting the notorious Madam Vina pimping her girls. And I even banged one that I rented from her in PI. But haven't seen much of her lately. Rent-a-poon from Vina-types and her stable are more likely to be spotted OUTside of PI, on the pavement facing the traffic circle. And if you don't see anyone obvious handing out cards, you can probably find success out there simply by asking around.

I have spotted the odd girl in the mall, at the bottom of one or another of the escalators, in an obvious "trolling for business" pose, but that isn't so common, lately. If you want to try your luck INside, then your better bet is to go down to the lowest level of Plaza Indonesia and work the food-court. If you are a good-looking guy, you may have success just cruising through the hall-ways, or parking yourself at one of the coffee-bars. Starbucks, coffee-bean, dome. But according to me, those are low-percentage success scenarios. Bottom floor is best. Second best is the extension to PI that stretches out toward the (crappy) new Hard Rock Cafe. There is a fitness club half-way down the extension-mall hallway where I have girl-watched before. One pickup from perhaps a dozen attempts. Worth checking out, but best to have a backup plan.

Aside from free-lancers prowling the mall. Not many of those. The strategy of hitting on shop-girls works about as well in PI as most places. The thing you have going for you in many PI stores is low volume of customer traffic, except in a few anchor stores like Sogo. The thing you have going AGAINST you, is that many of the customers are well-heeled and well-dressed, so if you look scruffy, the shop-girls may turn up their noses at you.

The problem with hitting on shop-girls is that it doesn't work so well for "right now", because generally they have to work until quitting time. So consider turning up at PI around quarter-past-nine and hanging in one of the coffee-bars near to an exit. Some of the shops close early, and all of them close by 10 pm. Peak period for employees streaming out of the mall is around 9:45 in my experience, and it's pretty much dead by shortly after 10. If you want a "right now" pickup from a shop-girl, that may be your best shot. But according to me, the best pickings in PI come during the late afternoon and early evening in and around the basement food-court. Not nearly as easy to pull poon out of PI as from Atrium though. The poon is there, but you need a sharper eye in PI. Maybe don't choose Plaza Indonesia for your virgin mall-hunting experience. Just my opinion. Other comments welcome!

That's my comment. Now a question. Has anyone ever scored with one of the hot-looking information-counter girls just behind the restaurant in the centre of the PI atrium? I flirt with them often, and they flirt back, but I've never gotten a serious "hey, hit on me please Mister, vibe" from any of them, so I haven't closed. Hats off to anyone who has done![/QUOTE]To morepoon

I was at Atrium mall a few month ago for lunch, I only saw a few freelancer and quality is not that great, I remember about 3 yr ago there are many freelancer walking around the mall in group, I did firt with a waitress at pizza hub she is very cute got her phone number but didn't follow up, I was only in town for 4 days on business not much time for hit and miss, I think that go for all the mall in Jarkata it not as good as 3-5 yr ago.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]. . . and most girls will speak enough English for you to have at least a simple conversation with them. [/QUOTE]


the general simple conversation proceeds like:

Hello, what you name?.... you buy me drink?.... where you come from?... how long in Jakarta?... me go with you to hotel, ya?... 500 OK?....

NO

[QUOTE=Non Olet]the general simple conversation proceeds like:

Hello, what you name?. You buy me drink?. Where you come from?. How long in Jakarta?. Me go with you to hotel, ya?. 500 OK?.

NO[/QUOTE] Come on guys. I'm talking about the deal items. How do you say:

CIM, BBBJCIM, multiple shots, etc. Ya' know, the good stuff.

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]Come on guys. I'm talking about the deal items. How do you say:

CIM, BBBJCIM, multiple shots, etc. Ya' know, the good stuff.[/QUOTE]That would be some chat then. " Hi baby how are you. You look hot, lets go to bed, and is it ok if I come on your face with some nice hot cum. By the way if we got to bed how many times can I cum in you / on you. Over you. "

Thats some chat line you got there Brother.

Can you recommend a strategy for mongering during Idul Adha (Nov 26th eve and 27th)?

Based on this news report from last year, it sounds like almost all nightlife venues will be closed ("nightclubs, discotheques, massage parlors, saunas, bars, karaoke venues, live music bars, and pool bars.")

[url]http://thejakartaglobe.com/national/nightspots-to-shut-for-idul-adha/301672[/url]

So what options does that leave?

Previous contacts (I don't have any)
Shopping malls
Hotel in-room massage?

[QUOTE=Dorman]Short answer, yes.

HR Idul Adha is a mini Idul Fitri and has a tendency to screw up plans as it is not widely known about. The bars will shut early on Thursday night (by early I mean about 8 or 9 pm so to all intents and purposes they needn't bother opening) all the bars will be shut on Friday with business as usual resuming on Saturday. This would appear to wipe out a sizeable chunk of your trip, my suggestion would be to work the phones now to line up any old contacts you may have or to collect as many numbers as possible on Wednesday night with promises to call them during the shut down. It's not like Idul Fitri where the girls leave town, they will be around but somewhat harder to locate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]Come on guys. I'm talking about the deal items. How do you say:

CIM, BBBJCIM, multiple shots, etc. Ya' know, the good stuff.[/QUOTE]

Don't worry about Bahasa Indonesian. They are WG's and they know more than you do. It's their business.

Unless of course you are planning to rohm the areas that have street walkers.
Very dangerous out there, stick to the high end places that have women of quality???

Enjoy....RL

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]Come on guys. I'm talking about the deal items. How do you say:

CIM, BBBJCIM, multiple shots, etc. Ya' know, the good stuff.[/QUOTE]

I believe there is a booklet for those kind of phrases. It was mentioned in this thread a while ago. Maybe others will remember. But, why not use body language. Just simulate the movements. Ad the words "no condom" if you want barebacking.
And, what Robert Long a.o. have written, the girls are WG and they will know. If you do a pickup in one of the better places like BATS, she will understand english.

[QUOTE=Menteng]I believe there is a booklet for those kind of phrases. It was mentioned in this thread a while ago. Maybe others will remember. But, why not use body language. Just simulate the movements. Ad the words "no condom" if you want barebacking.
And, what Robert Long a.o. have written, the girls are WG and they will know. If you do a pickup in one of the better places like BATS, she will understand english.[/QUOTE]

Never had any problems. Every girl understands "no condom" or "blow-job" and a pat on the behind with "mau itu" or "mau pantat" can also not be misunderstood. If you book her for e.g. three hours it is also clear that this is not for two hours cleaning your room. Concerning BBBJ, I have never met a (pro) girl in Indo that really insisted on covered blow job.

NO

To answer your question, I haven't tried Sarinah recently but I have had success there in the past.

In response Moorpoonhound's report, I think he is spot on with all the points he makes. I particularly support the point that being smartly dressed - long sleeve shirt and ideally tie and suit goes a very long way with the (relatively few) girls who are wandering around PI. As for the girls on the info desk in PI on the ground floor, I did report maybe 18 months ago about scoring with one. I used my (slightly embarrassing) sms trick in which I got my friend to send me a text in jakarta slang (but polite) and then asked one of the girls if she could help me to translate as my Bhs indo was not too good. Of course you can use that to convey whatever message you want as well as using it to strike up conversation. The approach can de-risk making contact with girls in coffee bars and I've used it a few times in that context.

There is a small book which I think Menteng may be referring to called "Making out in Indonesian" which has a lot of the slang you don't get in the tourist guide books. But the point has been well made that you don't need any of this stuff in reality if you are trying to score with most pro's as they speak enough English. In any event, I struggle to see why you need to have a discussion in advance (in any language): I've never yet had a girl (i.e. pro) who didn't do everything I wanted, it's just a question of how well they do it and surely nobody is going to try and establish that in advance?

[QUOTE=Bule2004]No need to bring porn DVDs to Indonesia: they are plentiful and cheap (less than $1. 00) at a number of locations in kota, including just outside Glodok on Jl. Hyam Wuruk (at the underpass).

Why bring a sandwich to a smorgasbord?

Bule 2004[/QUOTE]Can someone confirm the prices of the Porn DVDs. I've been buying them from between Pasaraya and Macdonalds and paying 15, 000 ea. Sounds like I've been over paying (I know the std DVDs are on 7, 000 ea)

Thanks

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]Heading back to Jkt after a 10 yr absence. Any one have a simple list of some of the 'more important words' in Bahasa that will help a fellow in his search for some p4p?[/QUOTE]
Even the "nice girls" know that "ice cream" is BBBJ. Once you get past that, you are fluent in Bahasa.

[QUOTE=Globe Spinner]Even the "nice girls" know that "ice cream" is BBBJ. Once you get past that, you are fluent in Bahasa.[/QUOTE]Ice cream? Now that's a new one to me.

Appreciate if someone could put together a short list of words, not handsigns, if that's possible. Might be useful to more than just me.

[QUOTE=Goferring]Can someone confirm the prices of the Porn DVDs. I've been buying them from between Pasaraya and Macdonalds and paying 15, 000 ea. Sounds like I've been over paying (I know the std DVDs are on 7, 000 ea)

Thanks[/QUOTE]Confirmed: I have bought a couple dozen high quality DVDs at the Glodok underpass and they played fine (in more ways than one!).

The only thing you have to be careful of is the outside cover may say one movie, and the DVD inside is of another movie. Other than that, less than 10, 000 rupiah is a real deal.

Bule2004

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]Appreciate if someone could put together a short list of words, not handsigns, if that's possible. Might be useful to more than just me.[/QUOTE]Here are a list of words and phrases that I have collected, many from this excellent site and also elsewhere. I thank all those here and elsewhere who provided these. Unfortunately I do not have the links and so cannot acknowledge the posters by name.

It is suggested that if you have some words and phrases that you wish to try from this list, that you check with a dictionary for meaning and pronunciation. Neither my Bahasa Indo nor my experience is sufficient to verify their correctness.
Alternatively it might be fun to see what answers you get cold turkey.

As a newbie I have broken the list into separate posts as I unsure of the acceptable lengths of posts.

Hope the compilation is of some help.

Affair = selingkuh
Again = lagi
Ass hole/Anal= Lobang pantat
Ass/bottom/behind=pantat/bokong
Balls (testis) = Biji (Pelir/Peler)
bathe mandi
Bathe the cat mandi kucing
big ass montok
Big ass = PaSar (Pantat Besar); Pasar itself means market.
big breast susu gedek
Big Breast = ToGe (Toked Gede); Toge itself means bean sprout, a vegetable.
Big Breast=ToGe (Toked Gede)
big tits toge (toket gede) = toket (tits), ge = gede (big)
big/large besar
bit tits sekal
***** : perek, lonte, pecun, bispak, bisyar.
***** for free : bispak
***** for money : bisyar
*****, hooker = PSK, pelacur, lonte, pecun, bispak{for free}, bisyar{for money}.
blow job SP
blowjob sepong
Blowjob/Oral = Sepong, karaoke, isep k*nt*l, oral.
board ( accom) kos
Body Massage = usually we said: pijat pake tetek (massage using boobs) or we said the same which is 'BM' = Bodi Massage.
boobs : toket/tete
breast : dada
Breast/boobs/rack/jugs = Dada/toket/toked/tetek
brothel = tempat PSK, Komplek PSK (PSK is pronounced: peh-es-kuh, short for Pekerja Seks Komersial, meaning: commercial sex)
chubby tambun
Clit/Clitoris = Itil/Klitoris
Cum = Peju
Cum in mouth {CIM} = CIM also/ keluar di mulut.
Cunnilingus/lick **** = JilMek(Jilat Memek)/ Kismek('kiss' memek)
****/vagina = Memek/Meki/vagina
dark skin Kulit gelap
dick batangan
dick kon**ol
dick, cock = burung (meaning:"bird")
Dick/Cock/Penis = k*nt*l/konti/titit/penis
Dildo = k*nt*l-kontolan.
Dirty Thoughts(sexually) = PikTor (Pikiran Kotor); When u pronounce it sounds like a persons name, Victor.
Faster = lebih cepat
fat Lemak
Female, girl, chick = cewe, perempuan, wanita
Finger = Jari
Fuck = ngent*t, ngewe
GangBang/Orgy = Ngent*t rame-rame/Salome{still not popular yet}/Orgi..
GANGBANG=SALOME
Gently = dengan lembut
girl who is newcomer ABG
girl you can easily f#ck bispak
girls at campus Mahasiswi
girls at Junior high school SMP
girls at senior high school SMU
girls who works karyawati
Good, So good = Enak, Enak banget.
Hamburger = Having BM(body massage) with two (2) girls.
HandJob = Kocok pake tangan, dikocokin.
Hard on = ngaceng
Harder = lebih keras
Having sex, get laid = ber-setubuh
hooker jablay
Horny = MuPeng {Muka Pengen, which means horny face}, Napsu(Nafsu).
huge Sangat besar
Huge breasts Payudara sangat besar
Kiss = Cium/cipok
Kiss= Cium

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]Appreciate if someone could put together a short list of words, not handsigns, if that's possible. Might be useful to more than just me.[/QUOTE]Here are a list of words and phrases that I have collected, many from this excellent site and also elsewhere. I thank all those here and elsewhere who provided these. Unfortunately I do not have the links and so cannot acknowledge the posters by name.

It is suggested that if you have some words and phrases that you wish to try from this list, that you check with a dictionary for meaning and pronunciation. Neither my Bahasa Indo nor my experience is sufficient to verify their correctness.

Alternatively it might be fun to see what answers you get cold turkey.

As a newbie I have broken the list into separate posts as I unsure of the acceptable lengths of posts.

Hope the compilation is of some help.

Large breasts Payudara besar

Lick = Jilat

Lick=Jilat

Long nipples Puting susu panjang

Lots of massage 'banyak pigit'

Making love = ber-cinta

Making love = Unge

Man, guy, male = laki-laki, cowo, pria

Masturbation = masturbasi/onani; Ngocok/coli {for guys}, masturbasi/onani {for girls}. Need more input for girls.

Masturbation/Onani: Ngocok, Nyoli.

Masturbator = Alat masturbasi.

Milk = susu

Mouth = mulut

Mum ibu-ibu

Nice ass, big ass pantat besar

Nice body sintal

Nipple/tits/titties = pentil tetek

Older woman/MILF = STW(setengah tuwir)

Once = sekali, satu (1) kali

Oral Sex: Sepong

Orgy party seks rame-rame

Prostitute Kupu Kupu Malam. Literally butterfly of the night

Prostitute = "Pelacur" (pronounced Pell Ah Chur)

Pubic hair Jembut

Pubic hair = Jembut

Pubic hair = Jembut

Satisfied = Puas

Second wife istri muda

Sex doll = boneka seks.

Sex Toys = Mainan seks.

Sex without paying". "Sex Tanpa Di bayar"!

Shaved pubic hair Mengetam jembut

Slowly = pelan pelan

Somebodies wife = BinOr (Bini Orang)

Strip tease = Tarian Telanjang

Stripper = penari telanjang

Suck = Isep/isap, sedot, nyedot.

Suck Dick/felatio = JilKon (Jilat k*nt*l); In this term, suck and lick doesn't make any difference.

Suck tits = Isep tetek/netek/nenen/nyusu.

Swallow Menelan

Swinger: Tukar Pasangan

Swinger = tukar pasangan

Testis=Biji Pelir

The price? Bayar berapa?

There, right there = disitu, tepat disitu.

Threesome seks bertiga

Titty Fuck (Tits Fuck). Is WETSU (alllahhhh)

Titty Fuck = Sugesti (susu gesek titit){still not popular yet}, Ngetek, Entot toket, Ngewe pake tetek.

Titty fuck = sugesti [susu for boobies gesek for touching beetwen more than 1 thing titit for dick]

Titty fuck? = Ngetek is good, but may me mistaken for ketek. Ngetet (******* tete)?

Tounge = Lidah

Twice = dua (2) kali

Unsatisfied = Belum puas / tidak puas

Vibrate = getar.

Vibrator = Alat getar.

Virgin = perawan

Widow Janda

[quote=oldexpat]appreciate if someone could put together a short list of words, not handsigns, if that's possible. might be useful to more than just me.[/quote]here are a list of words and phrases that i have collected, many from this excellent site and also elsewhere. i thank all those here and elsewhere who provided these. unfortunately i do not have the links and so cannot acknowledge the posters by name.

it is suggested that if you have some words and phrases that you wish to try from this list, that you check with a dictionary for meaning and pronunciation. neither my bahasa indo nor my experience is sufficient to verify their correctness.

alternatively it might be fun to see what answers you get cold turkey.

as a newbie i have broken the list into separate posts as i unsure of the acceptable lengths of posts.

hope the compilation is of some help.

do you want to sleep with me?

apakah anda ingin tidur dengan saya? / a-pa-kah an-da ee-ngeen tee-dur de-ngan sa-ya

do you have a condom?

apakah anda mempunyai subuah kondom? / a-pa-kah an-da mem-pu-nya-ee se-bu-ah kon-dom

are you on the pill?

apakah anda dalam pengaruh "pill" / a-pa-kah an-da da-lam pe-nga-ruh peel

i won't do it without condom

saya tidak ingin melakukannya tanpa kondom? / sa-ya tee-da ee-ngeen me-la-ku-kan-nya tan-pa kon-dom

please be (careful)

tolong (hati-hati) / to-long ha-tee-ha-tee

do you like this?

apakah anda menyukai ini? / a-pa-kah an-da me-nyu-ka-ee ee-nee

are you (single)?

apakah anda (lajang)? a-pa-kah an-da (la-jang)

are you lesbian?

apakah anda lesbi? / a-pa-kah an-da les-bee

are you bisexual?

apakah anda banci? a-pa-kah an-da ban-cee

i am looking for a pretty girl. is there some brothel nearby?

selamat sore. saya sedang mencari seorang cewek yang cantik. ada tempat psk di sekitar sini yang tidak mahal?

i want a 20 year young girl = saya mau seorang cewek yang muda, umurnya dua-puluh tahun.

i want this/that one (girl) = saya mau orang ini/itu.

i want to choose = saya mau pilih.

i don't like this one (girl) = saya tidak suka cewek orang ini.

i want another one (girl) = saya mau cewek seorang yang lain.

i want to find a girl = saya sedang mencari seorang cewek.

please take me to a brothel = tolong antar saya pergi ke setempat psk.

how much is the fare? = ongkosnya berapa?

please wait for me = tolong tunggu saya.

wait for one hour = tolong tunggu satu jam.

wait here = tunggu disini.

ok, agreed = ya, boleh. / ya setuju.

let's go = mari pergi.

do you also serve westerners here? = boleh orang buleh mendapatkan servis disini?

i want the girl at the front/back = saya mau orang cewek letaknya di depan/di belakang.

on the left/on the right = di kiri/di kanan

second from the left side = kedua dari kiri

third from the right at the back = ketiga dari kanan, di belakang.

the one wearing blue dress/black dress = cewek yang bajunya warna biru/warna hitam.

the one wearing white shirt and black pants = cewek yang berkemeja warna putih dan berjean warna hitam.

how much is the price? = harganya berapa?

please discount a bit = tolong diskon sedikit.

(it is for) how long time? = untuk berapa lama?

they might say: "until you cum once". = sampai keluar sekali.

i want to cum twice = saya hendak keluar dua kali.

pay now or later? = bayar dulu atau nanti?

pay now = bayar dulu.

where is my change? = bagaimana kembalianya?

can i have a receipt? = boleh kwitansi?

widow live in a village, the most beautiful one

janda kembang

your **** is nice = memek anda yang bagus.

your **** is too big = memek anda yang terlalu besar.

don't worry, my dick is not big! = jangan khawatir, burung saya tidak besar! (in case they seem afraid)

service was good/not good = servisnya bagus/jelek.

i want to do it one more time = saya mau buat satu kali lagi.

i want another girl = saya mau cewek seorang lain.

i want to go home now = saya mau pulang sekarang.

[QUOTE=Vlad Impaler]Here are a list of words and phrases that I have collected, many from this excellent site and also elsewhere. I thank all those here and elsewhere who provided these.

It is suggested that if you have some words and phrases that you wish to try from this list, that you check with a dictionary for meaning and pronunciation. Neither my Bahasa Indo nor my experience is sufficient to verify their correctness . . .

Do you want to sleep with me? === Apakah anda ingin tidur dengan saya? / A-PA-KAH AN-DA EE-NGEEN TEE-DUR DE-NGAN SA-YA
[/QUOTE]
The first thing I will like to say is good on you, Vlad - for doing your part to be helpful. The second thing that I need to say is that my own Indonesian is pretty basic - it will suffice for taxi's and restaurants, but I am a long way from fluent. With that disclaimer though, I have the impression that "casual Indonesian" . . . as in the sort of usage between friends, especially friends who are planning to fuck each other (grin) . . . is pretty different from "formal Indonesian".

Using "Anda" for you and "Saya" for me is not wrong, strictly speaking . . . and it is at least current usage - unlike "Ye Olde Englishe" would compare to contemporary slang and usage. I don't think I have ever heard a poon-possessor refer to me as "anda" - they always say "kamu" (same meaning as "anda", but not so formal). And although saya might be used from time-to-time, I most often hear "aku" or "gue" (similar meaning as "saya", but less formal). Anda seems to be reserved for situations where deep respect is intended - hardly the situation when you plan to fuck a female for funds . . . laughing now.

I will guess that any working girl that a newbie approaches with an Anda/Saya construct . . . after memorizing these "Wanna fuck?" type phrases . . . will be vastly amused that the rest of your Indonesian is full of nakal (naughty), even not-for-polite-company, phrases and that you can hardly string a sentence together . . . yet are coming-on both highly formal and filthy in the same phrase . . . grin again.

Almost like a Borat movie - some newcomer to the English language saying "Wouldst thou desire that my goodself fucks thee in thine ass, fair maiden". Try that on a ho who dropped out of high-school to turn tricks on the streets of some big city - London, Melbourne, Chicago, New York, and so on - and see whether she doesn't laugh in your face.

I think the best advice is three things: one - be friendly . . . two - ask a talking dictionary (i.e. one of the friendly have-a-holes that you are humping) to explain the proper slang if you are really keen . . . and three - be willing to laugh at yourself if your mangled Indonesian provokes the ladies to laughter.

Good effort Vlad but as pointed out way to formal and still full of errors.

The girls all know the terms, and are so used to shortening things that they would not understand these phrases unless your pronunciation was spot on and the phrase was correct in structure.

Saya is fine, not to formal. Here are some examples of a couple of phrases that are half way " street talk". No formality.

Do you want to sleep with me ? Mau tidur sama saya ?

Do you have a condom ? Punya kondom ?, (gak ?)

Do you like this ? Suka ini ?, (gak ?)

You can use gak as a way of saying "or not". But use it confidently and with emphasis or they will get confused.

So all I am trying to say here is that literal translations are not necessary and prone to misinterpretation so with working girls try a bit of Indonesian but sprinkle it with English especially for sexual terms etc. You will be better understood.

A massive thank you to forum members who post substantive information. Before my first visit to Jakarta I read back a couple of years of posts, making clippings. Thanks to that I had more than enough targets, and accurate expectations regarding service and charges. Unfortunately this report doesn't really contain any new information, apologies for that.

Very shortly:

Blok M was so-so, the area felt dodgy at night, I was followed into Top Gun by some punk who was finally ejected by management when he got aggresive after about half an hour of telling him I don't need his company. Then a scrawny mute girl latched on to me like a leech. The talent is so-so.

Kota is well-stocked with efficient pick & fuck places. Walk from Hayam Wuruk towards Lokasari Plaza and look for big neon down the smaller streets to your left. A few names to look for: Bintang Mewar and Madona, but there are many more, you won't have to look hard. Short-time upstairs for around 300K. Longtime for 700K-800K. The setup at Penjay is rather similar but trade is more brisk and more seedy, and a bit cheaper. Look for Asian Rain's excellent directions.

Hotel Travel is also walking distance from there, very efficient and convenient. Well stocked with about 10 groups of 10+ girls, spread over 2 lounges. Each group seems to be under a different mamasan, which is a bit inefficient for getting an overview, as each mamasan is pushing only her own stable.

The one downside of the Kota girls for me was that they're a bit down at the mouth. In Thailand and Philippines I get the feeling the girls have more freedom and incentives to be friendly.

Malioboro and Alexis, great if you like more lavish surroundings. Imports include Chinese, Spanish, Russian, Colombian, Vietnamese, Korean, for 1M and up up up.

If you have the money to burn and some friends, a bottle at CJs (Hotel Mulia) makes for a good night, excellent band and sound system. Lots of FLs standing around. Pitstop at Sari Pan Pacific was also good, they have GROs. Expect to pay 1M and more if you make a night of it.

Stadium was all it's made out to be, but I expected something more chaotic and unpleasant. It was actually very efficient, good service, good sound, good aircon ..

Down the small roads on the way to Stadium, Kartika and 10+ other "massage" places, some nice looking ladies, prices start at about 220K.

The ruko behind Sheraton Media super easy to find, literally straight opposite the back gate of the hotel. Once inside, a friendly security dude took me from door to door. I saw a yellow police tape pasted across the door of #19, so that one's off the map for now ... The others each had 3 to 6 ladies hanging about, not the freshest but all smiles. They said they're open around the clock.

I wanted to check out the Grogol places that were mentioned, but a local guy told me there's too many fights, he doesn't recommend I go there. He said he does though. This time I was chicken.

Yes thanks for trying Vlad, but that kind of Indonesian in your phrases is far too stiff and formal. There is a big big difference between the Indonesian taught to students and the everyday language used by most young people. If you want to say "I wanna fuck", you wouldn't say "I require sexual relations".

Don't say "anda" and never ever ever say "apakah anda". That's formal written language that would make you sound like a talking book. I've tried to translate your expressions below into real colloquial Indonesian IN CAPITALS
[QUOTE=Vlad Impaler]

Hope the compilation is of some help.

Do you want to sleep with me?

Apakah anda ingin tidur dengan saya? / MAU TIDUR SAMA AKU GAK?

Do you have a condom?

Apakah anda mempunyai subuah kondom? / PUNYA CONDOM GAK?

Are you on the pill?

Apakah anda dalam pengaruh "pill" / MINUM OBAT/PILL GAK?

I won't do it without condom

Saya tidak ingin melakukannya tanpa kondom? / AKU GAK MAU TANPA CONDOM or maybe PAK CONDOM which just means "use a condom"
Please be (careful)

Tolong (hati-hati) /

Do you like this?

Apakah anda menyukai ini? / SUKA GAK?

Are you (single)?

Apakah anda (lajang)? UDAH PUNYA PACAR BLOM? = do you have a girl/boyfriend?

Are you lesbian?

Apakah anda lesbi? / KAMU LESBI GAK?

Are you bisexual?

Apakah anda banci? BANCI DOESN'T MEAN BISEXUAL IT MEANS "TRANSEXUAL" OR LADYBOY. AND BANCIS DON'T LIKE TO BE CALLED THAT - THEY PREFER "WARIA" WHICH IS A CONTRACTION OF WANITA = WOMAN & PRIA = MAN

I am looking for a pretty girl. Is there some brothel nearby?

Selamat sore. Saya sedang mencari seorang cewek yang cantik. Ada tempat PSK di sekitar sini yang tidak mahal? SELAMAT SORE(AFTERNOON) or MALAM/EVENING. ADA TEMPAT SAMA CEWEK CANTIK DEKAT SINI?

I want a 20 year young girl = Saya mau seorang cewek yang muda, umurnya dua-puluh tahun. AKU CARI CEWEK MUDA, DUAPULUHAN

I want this/that one (girl) = Saya mau orang ini/itu. AKU MAU DIA

I want to choose = Saya mau pilih. AKU MAU PILIH

I don't like this one (girl) = Saya tidak suka cewek orang ini. GAK SUKA CEWEK INI

I want another one (girl) = Saya mau cewek seorang yang lain. MAU CEWEK LAIN

I want to find a girl = Saya sedang mencari seorang cewek. AKU CARI CEWEK

Please take me to a brothel = Tolong antar saya pergi ke setempat PSK. BISA ANTAR AKU KE PSK or TEMPAT CEWEK GAK?

How much is the fare? = Ongkosnya berapa?

Please wait for me = Tolong tunggu saya.

Wait for one hour = Tolong tunggu satu jam.

Wait here = Tunggu disini.

OK, agreed = Ya, boleh. / Ya setuju.

Let's go = Mari pergi.

Do you also serve Westerners here? = Boleh orang buleh mendapatkan servis disini? BULE BISA DAPAT SERVIS DI SINI GAK?

I want the girl at the front/back = Saya mau orang cewek letaknya di depan/di belakang. AKU MAU CEWEK DI DEPAN/DI BELAKANG

On the left/on the right = Di kiri/di kanan

Second from the left side = Kedua dari kiri

Third from the right at the back = Ketiga dari kanan, di belakang.

The one wearing blue dress/black dress = Cewek yang bajunya warna biru/warna hitam. CEWEK YANG PAKAI ROK WARNA BIRU/HITAM

The one wearing white shirt and black pants = Cewek yang berkemeja warna putih dan berjean warna hitam. CEWEK YANG PAKAI CELANA HITAM

How much is the price? = Harganya berapa?

Please discount a bit = Tolong diskon sedikit.

(It is for) How long time? = Untuk berapa lama?

They might say: "Until you cum once". = Sampai keluar sekali. SAMPAI KELUAR SATU KALI

I want to cum twice = Saya hendak keluar dua kali. AKU MAU KELUAR DUA KALI

Pay now or later? = Bayar dulu atau nanti?

Pay now = Bayar dulu.

Where is my change? = Bagaimana kembalianya?

Can I have a receipt? = Boleh kwitansi?

Widow live in a village, the most beautiful one

Janda kembang

Your **** is nice = Memek Anda yang bagus. MEMEK KAMU ENAK BANGET

Your **** is too big = Memek Anda yang terlalu besar.

Don't worry, my dick is not big! = Jangan khawatir, burung saya tidak besar! (in case they seem afraid) GAK USAH KHAWATIR, BURUNGKU GAK BESAR BANGET

Service was good/not good = Servisnya bagus/jelek.

I want to do it one more time = Saya mau buat satu kali lagi.

I want another girl = Saya mau cewek seorang lain. AKU MAU CEWEK LAIN

I want to go home now = Saya mau pulang sekarang.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Lama

The old Kramat Tunggak biggest brothel in Asia over 200 house in North Jarkata that the government closed down many yr ago, I recall we go in and cannot find our way out is that big, we can get st for 15 USD and some girl is young and hot.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Ah, memories. I remember my only visit there a long, long time ago. Acompanied by dangdut music I ventured into one of the houses. The price? 5K, yes guys, 5000 rupiahs! And there were cheaper ones, but I was afraid that my dick would be bitten of by the animals in the girl's pussy.

Well, since we're walking down memory lane. Anybody also experienced the WG's around Monas in the 70's? Or those of Boker (Cimanggis) in the same period?

Hmm, I'd trade one of my tomorrow's for a single yesterday (adapted quotation).

[QUOTE=Menteng]Ah, memories. I remember my only visit there a long, long time ago. Acompanied by dangdut music I ventured into one of the houses. The price? 5K, yes guys, 5000 rupiahs! And there were cheaper ones, but I was afraid that my dick would be bitten of by the animals in the girl's pussy.

Well, since we're walking down memory lane. Anybody also experienced the WG's around Monas in the 70's? Or those of Boker (Cimanggis) in the same period?

Hmm, I'd trade one of my tomorrow's for a single yesterday (adapted quotation).[/QUOTE]

To Menteng

I was last there on 1998 there are so many girl is hard to pick, I pick a place that got better room because they don't allow take out, I think they closed down on 2000, there are low end one with old cewek very cheap not sure about the exchange rate 10 yr ago.

Fast Eddie 48

i remain bemused about the things some of my fellow mongers want to say. for example, i don't think i have ever uttered the phrase "i want to fuck you" in any language: if i'm naked in bed with a girl i assume she's probably worked that out and if i've just met her in starbucks in a shopping mall, or even in a night club, she may deem it rather rude.

rudeness is a key point: indonesians perceive all bules to be rude - and they are right, even when they are trying to be polite which most of us hardly ever are.

i always try and respect any girl i meet, even if she is a 100% hooker - if for no other reason than i get much better "service". i would never, for example use anything other than "kamu", "aku" or "saya". my advice is that it's better still to use her name and yours. remember, these girls are not looking for a peer to peer relationship. a better chat up line than "i want to fuck you" might be "nama saya john, siapa nama kamu?" and then "maya sangat cantik" etc etc. even that would be deemed rude in some parts of indonesia but it would be ok in a jakarta night club. don't try it aceh or you'll be swallowing your bollocks hanging upside down in a tree.

I am planning a trip to Jakarta in January. Never been there before but I've been RTFF so I think I at least have a clue about the city and where to go to.

TC sounded like a fun place but a couple of months ago reports said that it wasn't worth going anymore. Is that still the case or is it now back to business as usual in TC?

Been planning to stay in Malioboro Hotel and check out Staduim, TC, Travel and if I have time Blok M. Probably check out some other clubs in Kota as well. Anything I should be aware of? I presume there will be no problem for a blue-eyed, blond haired bule in the 25-30 age group to find company for the night?

[quote=bulai69]i remain bemused about the things some of my fellow mongers want to say. for example, i don't think i have ever uttered the phrase "i want to fuck you" in any language: if i'm naked in bed with a girl i assume she's probably worked that out and if i've just met her in starbucks in a shopping mall, or even in a night club, she may deem it rather rude.

rudeness is a key point: indonesians perceive all bules to be rude - and they are right, even when they are trying to be polite which most of us hardly ever are.

i always try and respect any girl i meet, even if she is a 100% hooker - if for no other reason than i get much better "service". i would never, for example use anything other than "kamu", "aku" or "saya". my advice is that it's better still to use her name and yours. remember, these girls are not looking for a peer to peer relationship. a better chat up line than "i want to fuck you" might be "nama saya john, siapa nama kamu?" and then "maya sangat cantik" etc etc. even that would be deemed rude in some parts of indonesia but it would be ok in a jakarta night club. don't try it aceh or you'll be swallowing your bollocks hanging upside down in a tree.[/quote]

spot on bulai69! :)

[QUOTE=Northern Axe]I am planning a trip to Jakarta in January. Never been there before but I've been RTFF so I think I at least have a clue about the city and where to go to.

TC sounded like a fun place but a couple of months ago reports said that it wasn't worth going anymore. Is that still the case or is it now back to business as usual in TC?

Been planning to stay in Malioboro Hotel and check out Staduim, TC, Travel and if I have time Blok M. Probably check out some other clubs in Kota as well. Anything I should be aware of? I presume there will be no problem for a blue-eyed, blond haired bule in the 25-30 age group to find company for the night?[/QUOTE]

Jakarta is a big city and unless you are well traveled it may be overbearing.

Having been there many times I can tell you from experience that it is well

worth the few dollars to go with the guide service offered in the classifieds.

Then after the education and tips given, head out on your own. I only wish I

had known about the guide service before I went to JKT.

RL

[QUOTE=Menteng]Hmm, I'd trade one of my tomorrow's for a single yesterday (adapted quotation).[/QUOTE]
Yesterday in JKT for me is symbolized by JJs.

JJs was in its heydays (1996-2002) simply the greatest drinking hole/pick up bar on the planet in the history of mankind, bar none.

I'll be heading JKT next week and am tempted to check out on Taman Sari scenes, off Mangga Besar . I intend to stay at Hotel Astika ( jln Mangga besar ) , so will hav ample time to check on Lokasari, Travels, Gajah Mada as a starter.

Hv RTFF and made a search here , but somehow taman sari seemed to have lost its glitters in this thread. Any JKT bros care to update on this place ?

Will definitely report after this trip .

After all the Parlimen election, Presidential election, political uncertainty and 2 bombings...is sure is good to be back to Jakarta! :)

Made my way to BATS on the first night of arrival and was really surprised to the low quality and low volume of women in BATS. Whatever happen to the good looking ones? Must have been taken away early by fellow punters.

Didn't like the choice at BATS, went straight on to CJs. Good quality girls but still lacking in volume. The price of booze at CJs has skyrocket!

At this time, there's only 2 choices left...tigaPuluh or blok M.

Tired of paying extras at Hotel Bars decided to head to Blok M, Top Gun. As sleazy as ever - which I like :) Was harrased by the ladies there but kept my cool until I saw this tall lady across the room with a butt that makes J-Lo's butt looks normal! HAHA! Yes, I have a thing for girls with bubble butts.

She's half Sundanese, half Chinese from Bandung. Took her back to my hotel for an all nighter. She was a true GFE and didn't rush to leave. The damage...1m! 800K inclusive of taxi and just felt like giving her 1m.

I was happy but a friend said that I got ripped off. I seriously think I would have ended paying more or for shorter time if I would have had takeaways from BATS, etc. Hmmm...

[QUOTE=Northern Axe]I am planning a trip to Jakarta in January. I presume there will be no problem for a blue-eyed, blond haired bule in the 25-30 age group to find company for the night?[/QUOTE]

You lucky sod.

Depending on what you are looking for, here are a couple of tactics:

For unashamed unattached non stop banging till you drop:
- Stay at Mercure Resko rather than Hotel Travel - bit dearer, still cheap, much nicer, free internet, walking distance from Stadium, Bluebirds right out the front 24/7;
- Walk down to TCs (still worth checking out), Sierra, Bintang Mawar, and of course - Hotel Travel. You're young enough to cover the distance;
- Finish the night at Stadium, the one stop shop for, well anything..
- Walk back to sleep (maybe!)

And you still can follow this tactic for a more social experience:
- Stay at Atlet Century Park (more expensive though);
- Walk down to X2 in Plaza Senyan or Red Square, with your ages and looks a freebie (or close to it) with a pretty hot girl is certainly a possibility;
- Wander through Plaza Senayan or Senayan City. PS has been a successful hunting spot before for me;
- You are ten minutes from CJs, BATs, Blok M, and a bit longer to Mistere at Ritz Carlton for more possibilities.

And the following works for both (but better in conjunction with tactic two):
- Hit Facebook, Yahoo Messenger, Tagged and DateInAsia (in that order) looking for Indonesians to meet when you are there. Facebook is in front for me at the moment..
- If you have a BlackBerry, make sure it is unlocked. Buy a Telkomsel Simpati SIM, load it with 200,000 ASAP, SMS 333 with 'Reg BB' and then 'BB On' and fire up YM and Facebook (and BB messenger). Update your status as to where you are regularly (assuming you don't have any stalkers yet). With luck, your thumbs will stop feeling sore about a month after you get home. The same with a few other body parts;
- Google translator and Google maps (with GPS) on the phone are also highly useful! Especially when locating places for the first time.
- The above should work for other phones if you can get a data pack, but I haven't tried it, and everyone is on BlackBerry in Indonesia anyway;
- Ask everyone for their phone number, and keep sms'ing them.

Like I said, you lucky sod. I'm luckier though, I visit before you!

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Dezstylez]
At this time, there's only 2 choices left...>>>> tigaPuluh <<<< or blok M.
[/QUOTE]

It has been a while since you visited hasn't it!

[QUOTE=Hung Man 1808]It has been a while since you visited hasn't it![/QUOTE]

You got that right Hung Man! I stayed away from Indonesia for sometime. Didn't want to be there during unrest period.

The last I was there, tigapuluh was close for renovation. Did they open a new joint?

[QUOTE=Hung Man 1808]
Mistere at Ritz Carlton for more possibilities.

[/QUOTE]


I've stayed at Ritz Kuningan (before the you know what happen) but never came to mind for takeaways from Mistere.

Is it worth checking the place out?

Just came back from a week in Jakarta for business, but managed to fit in a bit of fun too.

Hit CJ's a couple of nights at the open and hung around for a while to see what was wandering in. The early pickings are pretty hard core, but at around 10:30 some more suitable partners make the scene.

The bar itself is pretty expensive, so if you are paying your own way you probably want to go for the bottle or nurse the drinks. Great band as usual, so the time is well spent.

Found one 25 year old girl who was well worth the 600k we settled on and I added 100 more to make it 700.

One afternoon when my meetings were done early, I made the tough taxi trip to Travel Hotel. A lot more choice than I was expecting, and took a 21 year old cutie to a VIP room (325, they said was the afternoon rate?) and had a good hour with her.

Downstairs, I saw a Chinese style 21 year old and took her upstairs to a regular room for two sessions (2 X 300) plus 100 tip.

After three rounds, I was pretty spent so I walked down the main road to the McDonalds to fill the hole. If you go in two blocks from the main road to the McD's, you are at the back of Lokasari Plaza. After feeling refreshed, I thought that I would hit TC for just a look.

Up the escalator inside the mall doors, and just in front is the door to Total Country. 30,000 Rupiah entry gets you one drink in a loud, smoky, typically Indonesian bar. A couple of girls in go go outfits hanging on the poles, and what looks like a mix of freelancers and strings of managed girls. One mamasan brought over a girl to sit beside me who was a step down from what I had just finished with at Travel Hotel. No problem for me though, as I was finished for the night. The lack of communication sent her away, and the mamasan told me 300,000 for girl and room and I said that I was just looking.

She brought over another girl and this one was cute and young - not much English but when she leaned her slim hips into me and looked into my eyes, I was weak. She asked about my hotel, but I could not see myself walking through the lobby with this little thing in tow, so I opted for the on site room. Not much of a room and lots of noise, but this cute little thing made the distractions go away. 300 to the mama (before) and the girl wanted 200 and I gave it to her. I was thinking of going from there to the hospital for dick repairs, but instead went back to the hotel, fully toasted.

An afternoon of sequential sex is a lovely way to spend the day in Jakarta

[QUOTE=Biz99] 300 to the mama (before) and the girl wanted 200 and I gave it to her. [/QUOTE]

Is it customary to tip at TC? It's been a long time since I've been there, but I don't recall ever being asked for a tip (maybe because I don't speak Bahasa Indonesia), and never gave over 100.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Is it customary to tip at TC? [/QUOTE]

Yes. I give them 50k tip. If they are fantastic and get me off more than once, sometimes I give them 100k tip. That's not just at TC, that's at pretty much every knock shop in the entire city.

Hi, I'd like to know if the area where is Hotel Travel is a good area for picking up girls .... of course besides the Hotel Travel. In that area is there some hotels for sleeping in the night?
thanks

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, I'd like to know if the area where is Hotel Travel is a good area for picking up girls .... of course besides the Hotel Travel. In that area is there some hotels for sleeping in the night?

thanks[/QUOTE]The hotel have 2 entrance. The one on the left directly go to the mongering join. Business start from 1pm till 1am. So, you can have lunch, tea time, dinner, supper.

Main entrance will lead you to hotel lobby.

[QUOTE=Kenanga]The hotel have 2 entrance. The one on the left directly go to the mongering join. Business start from 1pm till 1am. So, you can have lunch, tea time, dinner, supper.
Main entrance will lead you to hotel lobby.[/QUOTE]

Wonderful news. Can you tell me if it a good hotel? I look for a good but also cheap hotel. How much it costs for sleeping only every night?
Thanks!

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Wonderful news. Can you tell me if it a good hotel? I look for a good but also cheap hotel. How much it costs for sleeping only every night?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
I dropped by the reception when I was there in April, the price 325k IDR+17.5%.
I did't look at the rooms though.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, I'd like to know if the area where is Hotel Travel is a good area for picking up girls .... of course besides the Hotel Travel. In that area is there some hotels for sleeping in the night?

thanks[/QUOTE]And 'where is' Hotel Travel located? Anyone know the street name or location?

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Thanks for your post. What you described is not normal behavior at Kartika, and the tip amount has definitely not gone up to 200,000 rupiah! My guess is that you ended up with one of the few bad/greedy girls working there, who must have been having a bad day or severe financial pressures in her life.

Whenever a situation like this happens, don't be afraid to complain to the mamasan (as you did) - they will usually do their best to fix the situation. I've visited Kartika at least 70 or 80 times over the last five years, and only had one experience as bad as yours. I immediately complained to the mamasan and they waived the room fee on the spot, without my even asking. Not only that, when I came back 5 days later, I learned that that particular girl was no longer working there, that Kartika management had fired her. I'm not sure if that was a direct result of my complaint, or if several customers had complained, but the bottom line is that no place will put up with girls who hurt business.[/QUOTE]Dear MS,

thanks to your reply I was encouraged to give Kartika another chance, and fortunately my previous reported "happening" turned out to apparently (and fortunately) be an unlucky day for me.

Happy things remained as I remebered.

Cheers CF68

[QUOTE=Tim Bone]I dropped by the reception when I was there in April, the price 325k IDR+17. 5%.

I did't look at the rooms though.[/QUOTE]Perhaps a useful tip (just my 2 cents worth):

When you arrive in Jakarta go to a bookstore in any of the malls and buy a city plan. Falkplan is by far the best and comes with an interactive CD (handy if you have your laptop with you). Not exactly cheap: approx. 200, 000 Rp but unbeatable in accuracy. The CD has a search function for just about everything (hotels, streets, malls, you name it). No, I do not have shares in Falkplan.

Second place goes to the Periplus street atlas. Cheaper, bus less detailed and does not have a digital version included.

Regards,

Koperen Ko

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]And 'where is' Hotel Travel located? Anyone know the street name or location?[/QUOTE]

Most taxis know it anyway. But you can just tell them Manga Besar 8. (Mangga besar delapan)

You're right about JJ's although my main memory of that place is getting my credit card cloned. I'm surprised you didn't mention Tanamour however which I think is somewhat more noteworthy even that JJ's! It's the first club I went to on my first night in Jakarta 18 years ago. Having managed to avoid a few lady boys the like of which I'd never seen before, I went home with a girl 20 years younger than I’d had for 20 years....

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, I'd like to know if the area where is Hotel Travel is a good area for picking up girls. Of course besides the Hotel Travel. In that area is there some hotels for sleeping in the night?

Thanks[/QUOTE]To Foxeshunter

Hotel travel have a sauna night club next door that made it famous, the Hotel itself is not a good place to stay very run down, there are many low end motel in the area but below are the one I can recommened and do some RTFF on Jarkata hotel section.

Spark hotel 45 USD just around the corner at mangga begsar

Olympic hotel 35 USD inside lopasari plaza across from spark hotel

Mecure reska 55 USD nice 3 star hotel about 15 min walk

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Koperen Ko]Perhaps a useful tip (just my 2 cents worth):

When you arrive in Jakarta go to a bookstore in any of the malls and buy a city plan. Falkplan is by far the best and comes with an interactive CD (handy if you have your laptop with you). Not exactly cheap: approx. 200, 000 Rp but unbeatable in accuracy. The CD has a search function for just about everything (hotels, streets, malls, you name it). No, I do not have shares in Falkplan.

Second place goes to the Periplus street atlas. Cheaper, bus less detailed and does not have a digital version included.

Regards,

Koperen Ko[/QUOTE]

The last one I bought was the interactive Megapolitan Map & Street Guide. I paid 20K for the copy in Mangga Dua Mall but I'm sure Ratu Plaza, Mal Ambasador and the like will have it too. Very detailed one also!

[QUOTE=Bulai69]You're right about JJ's although my main memory of that place is getting my credit card cloned. I'm surprised you didn't mention Tanamour however which I think is somewhat more noteworthy even that JJ's! It's the first club I went to on my first night in Jakarta 18 years ago. Having managed to avoid a few lady boys the like of which I'd never seen before, I went home with a girl 20 years younger than I’d had for 20 years....[/QUOTE]
Tanamur was great fun indeed. I think that it's also the first place I've ever been to in JKT. This was the pre-internet days and there was no way to know where to go when you arrived at destination, except by word of mouth, and Tanamur already had a solid reputation. Atmosphere was so good that I had one of biggest shock of my life ! Anyway for me JJ had more charm ...the balinese backyard, the outdoor billiards and MTV screen, the baroque decoration, and the elegance of the old dutch mansion that hosted all that was a great blend indeed. And most girls were NOT interested by your wallet, but just to have hot and short flings with equally fun-loving foreigners. I think I've spent hundreds of nights there !!!

BTW ..... who remember that JJ was in the late 80s, after its opening, the trendiest place in town, packed with celebrities, models, jeunesse doree, ect .... they abandonned it after a few monthes (which is usual in JKT), until it became soon the place that we know, the best pick up spot and drinking hole (under one roof) on the planet, till 2002 when it went really downhill.

My current hunting ground is FSU and more specially Uzbekistan, but I have LOT of nostalgia for Indonesia. Gotta leave the russian dyevs for a while to taste again indo flavor. :)

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]And 'where is' Hotel Travel located? Anyone know the street name or location?[/QUOTE]

Travel Hotel Address;
Jalan Mangga Besar VIII.
Near Jalan Gajahmada, Jalan Hayam wuruk. Kota Area.
Jakarta

... are they ever "off the market" was the main point of the note I couldn't send you

Just finished an interesting chat with an online friend in Jakarta. She had been corresponding several months with a guy from the UK. This guy had been buttering her up for several weeks.

Anyway, he was scheduled to fly form LHR to SIN and then onto CGK with Singapore airlines. She was looking forward to picking him up, and meeting him “in real”.

A couple of hours before he is scheduled to land, she receives a phone call from an official at SIN airport customs. The guy has been detained coz he is carrying too much cash. He has to pay a fine of 2800 USD in order to be released.

She sends the money via western union to the person calling her on the phone. He then calls her to say he has been released, but he cant touch the money, he wants send it to Malaysia by courier, for her to pick it up for him, coz SIN will not allow him to continue his trip, he must return to UK.

She then gets a call form a Malaysia number, saying the bag full of money is in KL, and she should come get it, but she must pay 4800 USD in fees for transport and security. She tells them she cannot come up with that money. The friend then calls and begs her. He is in jail at SIN airport. She tells him she will try to come up with the money. Somehow she manages to come up with 3,000 USD, and calls the “Malaysia agent” who informs her that if all she has is 3,000, she can just send it, and not bother to come. They will then return the bag to her friend.

Finally, it rains a little bit of brain on her, and she calls her uncle in Singapore who tells her to not send money. He makes a few calls, and of course, all is bogus.

Cut a long story short, she is out 2800 USD, and the guy has not shown up.

Any of this actually true, or just another story or woes, in order to extract some sympathy and a little cash from the bule?

[QUOTE=1Ball]Just finished an interesting chat with an online friend in Jakarta. She had been corresponding several months with a guy from the UK. This guy had been buttering her up for several weeks.

Anyway, he was scheduled to fly form LHR to SIN and then onto CGK with Singapore airlines. She was looking forward to picking him up, and meeting him “in real”.

A couple of hours before he is scheduled to land, she receives a phone call from an official at SIN airport customs. The guy has been detained coz he is carrying too much cash. He has to pay a fine of 2800 USD in order to be released.

She sends the money via western union to the person calling her on the phone. He then calls her to say he has been released, but he cant touch the money, he wants send it to Malaysia by courier, for her to pick it up for him, coz SIN will not allow him to continue his trip, he must return to UK.

She then gets a call form a Malaysia number, saying the bag full of money is in KL, and she should come get it, but she must pay 4800 USD in fees for transport and security. She tells them she cannot come up with that money. The friend then calls and begs her. He is in jail at SIN airport. She tells him she will try to come up with the money. Somehow she manages to come up with 3,000 USD, and calls the “Malaysia agent” who informs her that if all she has is 3,000, she can just send it, and not bother to come. They will then return the bag to her friend.

Finally, it rains little bit of brain on her, and she calls her uncle in Singapore who tells her to not send money. He makes a few calls, and of course, all is bogus.

Cut a long story short, she is out 2800 USD, and the guy has not shown up.

Any of this actually true, or just another story or woes, in order to extract some sympathy and a little cash from the bule?[/QUOTE]

The scam, or a variation of it, is very common, how many are hooked is impossible to say but it seems to be getting more prevalent.

The MO is always similar. A girl on an online chat site is hit upon, often by a guy who puports to be from UK, Australia, USA etc. He spends a period of time, usually a few weeks, flattering, developing the relationship and assessing his targets financial worth. Single working women, 30+ with middle and up income are often targeted. Just like us mongers, the scammers know this group is often grateful for the attention.

Then comes the hit. Common variations are the unsolicited gift to the lady (diamonds, cash) which is sent by some fictitious but plausible sounding courier and the 'stuck in transit' line you described.

Either way, the girl is asked for customs or other fees to release the gift or for cash to help her wealthy new friend. Fees to be paid by Western Union and subject to heavy discounting if the target baulks at the initial amount.

The majority of the fund requests are from Malaysia. Targets could be anywhere but Singapore, Thailand, China and Indonesia are popular.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Just finished an interesting chat with an online friend in Jakarta. She had been corresponding several months with a guy from the UK. This guy had been buttering her up for several weeks.

Anyway, he was scheduled to fly form LHR to SIN and then onto CGK with Singapore airlines. She was looking forward to picking him up, and meeting him “in real”.

A couple of hours before he is scheduled to land, she receives a phone call from an official at SIN airport customs. The guy has been detained coz he is carrying too much cash. He has to pay a fine of 2800 USD in order to be released.

She sends the money via western union to the person calling her on the phone. He then calls her to say he has been released, but he cant touch the money, he wants send it to Malaysia by courier, for her to pick it up for him, coz SIN will not allow him to continue his trip, he must return to UK.

She then gets a call form a Malaysia number, saying the bag full of money is in KL, and she should come get it, but she must pay 4800 USD in fees for transport and security. She tells them she cannot come up with that money. The friend then calls and begs her. He is in jail at SIN airport. She tells him she will try to come up with the money. Somehow she manages to come up with 3,000 USD, and calls the “Malaysia agent” who informs her that if all she has is 3,000, she can just send it, and not bother to come. They will then return the bag to her friend.

Finally, it rains little bit of brain on her, and she calls her uncle in Singapore who tells her to not send money. He makes a few calls, and of course, all is bogus.

Cut a long story short, she is out 2800 USD, and the guy has not shown up.

Any of this actually true, or just another story or woes, in order to extract some sympathy and a little cash from the bule?[/QUOTE]


I know a girl or lady who had organised her engagement with one of these scamsters. He came up with some story and she went to Malaysia to rescue him before the engagement and got money given to guys who posed as cops. She announced a great engagement in a 5 star hotel, all with a fantastic agenda. And this guy, a self proclamed Britisher does not turn up. And then she never heard of him again. Finally she married an aged bule from Indonesia and has now settled in Connecticut.

Just visit [url]www.scamorama.com[/url] and you will find all types of scams that can happen around the world.

Cheers

I've been in jakarta for 3 days now. It's been a joy so far except for one little disappointment.

As usual, I surveyed the forum two weeks in advance. And was drawn to the idea of online dating. So I signed up with two websites recommended here. Met few girls online but got much involved with a pretty girl. So I focused my attention to her and neglected the others as I didn't really have much time to spare anyway. So, we exchanged phone numbers. Talked few times on the phone. After arriving to Jakarta, and settling in the hotel, I gave her a call and planned to meet her in Mulia so we can spend the night in CJ. She arrived. Dressing elegantly. Smelling heavenly. We sat down in the lobby for few minutes and talking. I received my biggest shock. When she said: by the way baby, you know I am ladyboy right?

For what felt like ages, a flashback of events raced through my mind. I have to say that this forum. And in particular some prominent members (whom I could remember at that moment) received a shower of curses.) damn what a shock. What a shame. Those bastard in the forum didn't warn us (newbies) about this LOL. Anyway, I tried every trick in the book to get away from that date as quickely and nicely as possible. But it was heartbreaking. Needed few hours to recover and forgive you guys (grin).

Anyway, reporting on some of the things that I've experienced so far.

CJ: as trendy and classy as it was built up in here. Loads of girls and freebies. Nice music. A bit pricy I must say. Girls don't approach you most of the time so you have to get up and approach them. And expect some rejections as well. First girl I approached, was tall (about 180 cm, thin, and elegant). We chatted a bit, ordered her a drink (long island ice tea she was drinking!). Anyway, once it got a bit serious, she told me she want 1 mil. I offered 400 and negotiation started. Ended up agreeing on 500k. Once we are back to my hotel. Action started. She was nice, warm, and extremely horny. Started with a nice and wet BJ (no condom) and then moved to a doggy style. (condom – I asked for it and she said she doesn't have so I grabbed my own). Anyway, CJ is good. If you have loads of cash. But if staying for a longer period. It might seriously damage your wallet.

Stadium: Again, as usual, however I noticed that about 80% of the crowd is locals including girls and boys. Is that always the case? Or is it the low-season affect? Anyway, if you are not into drugs, I don't think stadium suits those who like to drink and dance. For picking up girls, yes. You can find stunners in there.

I am still in Jakarta, will stay here for two more days, will write more detailed reports once I get back home.

By the way guys, I was trying to find a good massage place where they do the soap massage (thaildand style). I read that I can find this in Kartika. But I found out that Kartika is about 1 hour away by taxi!, can anyone recommend any other place as I am staying in Acacia hotel currently (not sure why!). Which is located in Jl Karamat Raya No. 81. Hope the experts know where that is.

Ciao

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[QUOTE=1Ball]

Any of this actually true, or just another story or woes, in order to extract some sympathy and a little cash from the bule?[/QUOTE]

The last half of your last paragraph is the answer I think even though there are "real" scams like this. I'd file it along with the cousin/brother etc who needs school fees, the sick relative, the parent whose died three times already....

[QUOTE=Xovation]When she said: by the way baby, you know I am ladyboy right?[/QUOTE]

At least the ladyboy was being up front and not hiding anything. Props to him for that. Not all of them have that kind of integrity.

On those dating sites, if their profile says something like "Stunning_TS", it's probably best to avoid that one if you aren't into lady boys. I would think if that one was so up front with you, there must have been some reference to them being a transsexual in their profile. The site with the most lady boys seems to be dateinasia. So probably best to avoid that one if you are new in town and have trouble telling the difference.

Actually, I don't see the need to use any of those sites. It's safer just to go to CJ's and meet a girl in person. You can't be sure what you are getting on those sites.

[QUOTE=Blair]The scam, or a variation of it, is very common, how many are hooked is impossible to say but it seems to be getting more prevalent.

The MO is always similar. A girl on an online chat site is hit upon, often by a guy who puports to be from UK, Australia, USA etc. He spends a period of time, usually a few weeks, flattering, developing the relationship and assessing his targets financial worth. Single working women, 30+ with middle and up income are often targeted. Just like us mongers, the scammers know this group is often grateful for the attention.

Then comes the hit. Common variations are the unsolicited gift to the lady (diamonds, cash) which is sent by some fictitious but plausible sounding courier and the 'stuck in transit' line you described.

Either way, the girl is asked for customs or other fees to release the gift or for cash to help her wealthy new friend. Fees to be paid by Western Union and subject to heavy discounting if the target baulks at the initial amount.

The majority of the fund requests are from Malaysia. Targets could be anywhere but Singapore, Thailand, China and Indonesia are popular.[/QUOTE]I'm in Malaysia and very common to hear of these scams. Many of my "freebie dates" (being in the right market mix) have been hit on this way. The smart ones insist to talk to the guy who is offereing to send the diamonds etc. They then wonder why a guy who in his pic has blue eyes white skin and blond hair talks like a Nigerian. Thats when they realise its a scam attempt.

[QUOTE=Xovation]I read that I can find this in Kartika. But I found out that Kartika is about 1 hour away by taxi![/QUOTE]

Kartika is about 3 minutes on foot from Stadium.

[QUOTE=Prosal]Yesterday in JKT for me is symbolized by JJs.

JJs was in its heydays (1996-2002) simply the greatest drinking hole/pick up bar on the planet in the history of mankind, bar none.[/QUOTE]


I had forgotten the names (until you brought it up), but I recall JJ's and Tanumur (sp?) from my very first days there. This was in '03, so they were in steep decline (I realized later). That was where I picked up Ella and her nearly twin sister for a raucous sister 3-some. That was some introduction to JKT!

[QUOTE=Xovation]We sat down in the lobby for few minutes and talking. I received my biggest shock. When she said: by the way baby, you know I am ladyboy right?
[/QUOTE]

Can you tell us in what web site did you find that ladyboy?

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]Kartika is about 3 minutes on foot from Stadium.[/QUOTE]

It is confusing because there are several Kartikas in Jakarta. Yes, I RTFF but please can somebody tell me (and Xovation and others) exactly what to say to the taxi driver to end up at the soapy massage joint?

Thanks,

NO

[QUOTE=Xovation]arrived. Dressing elegantly. Smelling heavenly. We sat down in the lobby for few minutes and talking. I received my biggest shock. When she said: by the way baby, you know I am ladyboy right?

For what felt like ages, a flashback of events raced through my mind. I have to say that this forum. And in particular some prominent members (whom I could remember at that moment) received a shower of curses.) damn what a shock. What a shame. Those bastard in the forum didn't warn us (newbies) about this L

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Hi board,

Firstly I would like to thank people for their assistance in the last couple of years in offering advice. I have read through the posts here and it is has been very helpful. I am not familiar with Jakarta at all and have three days and nights there in mid January purely to have some R&R and I am staying at the Atlet Century Park Hotel with a budget of 7,000,000 k for entertainment.

My question for the board is how I should spend this? That is which clubs you would recommend I visit being a novice in Jakarta I am not into ear splitting techno music and like a little conversation and a few drinks with my potential date. I am looking for both day time and night time entertainment.

I was interested to read that Russian girls are available in Jakarta have always wanted to try one as none available in my area at home. So I would like to know as well where to find them and what they demand in the form of remuneration, but the other days and nights seeking attractive Indonesian girls. Any suggestion on how to spend my three days and nights will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Non Olet]It is confusing because there are several Kartikas in Jakarta. Yes, I RTFF[/QUOTE]

I RTFF also, and only found one Kartika. If you can't figure it out yourself, tell the driver to go to Stadium and walk north, looking to your right, or go to the junction of Hayam Wuruk and Manga Besar and walk south, looking to your left, or if he knows the name, just tell him to go to Kartika on Hayam Wuruk.

[QUOTE=Kieth Wind]Hi board,

Firstly I would like to thank people for their assistance in the last couple of years in offering advice. I have read through the posts here and it is has been very helpful. I am not familiar with Jakarta at all and have three days and nights there in mid January purely to have some R&R and I am staying at the Atlet Century Park Hotel with a budget of 7, 000, 000 k for entertainment.

My question for the board is how I should spend this? That is which clubs you would recommend I visit being a novice in Jakarta I am not into ear splitting techno music and like a little conversation and a few drinks with my potential date. I am looking for both day time and night time entertainment.

I was interested to read that Russian girls are available in Jakarta have always wanted to try one as none available in my area at home. So I would like to know as well where to find them and what they demand in the form of remuneration, but the other days and nights seeking attractive Indonesian girls. Any suggestion on how to spend my three days and nights will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]To kieth,

I think you should do more RTFF if you have you have most answer here, for 7 million rp for 3 night is alot of money if you are on a budget 2 million rps is good for 3 night.

First night

Hotel travel brothel 400k FS and drink

TC bar Loposari plaza 300k FS in house or 500k all night take out

This 2 place are very close 5 min walk

2 night

Block M bar bring girl back to your hotel all nighter 500 k

3 night

Stadium club have 3 fl KTV night club disco and brothel 480 k FS drink tip

Kartika massage just around the corner 500k FS drink tip

You can also hit the mall during the day for freelance, for Russian the alexis hotel brothel night club or the millenum have some hot Russian or east european but they are not cheap cost is 1 million for ST and up 1. 8 mil for take out.

Fast Eddie 48

Last week, checked out taman sari area ( behind Travel Hotel ) and found out hse no 75 . the gate was closed tightly but as I closing in, someone from the inside opened the door and was invited by a Male operator to view the stocks that was available therein. Out came 10 ceweks, and what pisses me off as compared to Thailand , the ceweks don't even bothered to look interested and keeping the eyes glued to the TV.

I decided to pick a young cewek who happened to glance and met my eyes . Nenty was her name. 18 and damage was 600 K, payable on delivery of goods to your hotel . I was staying at Astika hotel, and at 7.15 pm .. Nenty arrived along with the body guard .. Paid 600 K plus 30K for the hotel security tips , transport tips etc.

A few minutes of getting to know .. and zap . round one . !.. then round two before snoozing off to sleep . Standard SOP, BBBJ, Cowgirl, 69, was expected, , I didn't expect any acrobatic red thread ( like in China ) treatment . Nenty is young and under 20, plus quite naughty.
Next morning was lil bro's wake up call for round 3. 50K tips for her and she looked happy abt it as I bid my farewell to her.

Over the next 3 days, I had my sessions at Travels Hotel and as i had to shifted over to Crowne Plaza , the distance going to Jn Mangga Besar got further, hence got a bit lazy to travel over the crazy jams (machat... i think so ! ) . Anyway , i got the security person to get me a take away and got 3 more rounds with a cewek from Semarang. Depi was not a stunner and small in size but this time . the lil bro was doing the thinking . ! Anyway . paid 800 K and needless to go thru the walk of shame at the lobby ! ..

I have the nos. for both the pappy ( male mummy ) , so PM me if you are interested . One is from Taman Sari and the other from Menteng area.

Ciao

Been to Alexis Hotel about 15:00 and greeted by Indo boy in gray suit in the porch who led me to 5th floor instead of 7th bath floor.

Asked pretty floor receptionists what are the service and they responded 1. 9m IDR special service. Never had this price and curious what is on.

5-member-Chinese special task force from Shenzen, all gorgeous lined up, avoided indo boys recommeneded girl called Michelle and tried shy one.

90 minutes you are exploring every possible service on this planet.

Happy, refreshed and determined to try all members of task force before they go back in Jan.

P.S. Been Melawei, Malioboro, Kartika, Travel hotel, Oasis with under 500k budget, all so so, worth to try as a millionaire.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]I RTFF also, and only found one Kartika. If you can't figure it out yourself, tell the driver to go to Stadium and walk north, looking to your right, or go to the junction of Hayam Wuruk and Manga Besar and walk south, looking to your left, or if he knows the name, just tell him to go to Kartika on Hayam Wuruk.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Rocksoff, this information is extremely usefull.

Maybe there is only one Kartika in the forum, but a few weeks back, when I told the taxi driver to go to Kartika Spa and Massage I ended up at Kartika Chandra Hotel. Moreover I have also seen Kartika Utama, which was a shopping mall! He obviously did not know the Kartika we mean. I fully understand (and share) the confusion of Xovation.

Have fun

NO

Streetdirectory. co.id

[QUOTE=Non Olet]Thanks Rocksoff, this information is extremely usefull.

Maybe there is only one Kartika in the forum, but a few weeks back, when I told the taxi driver to go to Kartika Spa and Massage I ended up at Kartika Chandra Hotel. Moreover I have also seen Kartika Utama, which was a shopping mall! He obviously did not know the Kartika we mean. I fully understand (and share) the confusion of Xovation.

Have fun

NO[/QUOTE]

Anyone know any details about a place called King Cross in Kelapa Gading? I hear they have 50 nude dancers there.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]Anyone know any details about a place called King Cross in Kelapa Gading? I hear they have 50 nude dancers there.[/QUOTE]Which Kelapa Gading? There are 50 Kelapa Gadings in Jakarta.

Regards

[QUOTE=Koperen Ko]Which Kelapa Gading? There are 50 Kelapa Gadings in Jakarta.

Regards[/QUOTE]

Kelapa Gading is an area of Jakarta. Like Menteng or Kuningan. There is only one Kelapa Gading. There's a huge mall in that area called Mal Kelapa Gading (I believe) and Sumo massage place is in that area as well. Many times I've jumped in a taxi and told them to take me to Mal Kelapa Kading and they take me directly there with no questions asked. I find I can't ask them to take me to Sumo because they never know it. But it's not far from that mall, so I just have them take me to the mall and direct them from there. However, I have not been to this King Cross place with the 50 or so naked women dancing yet.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]Anyone know any details about a place called King Cross in Kelapa Gading? I hear they have 50 nude dancers there.[/QUOTE]







To Smoothy






The King Cross entertainment plaza is in Glodok on hayam wuruk, this place have 3 floor KTV, disco and a brothel, my jarkata buddy told me the owner use to own the 1001 club down the st, this is a very expensive place to play ,the chinese and indo chick start at 1 mil and the korean and thai want 1.2-1.5 mil for FS but the disco have freelance asking 800 k for ST and there is a door charge to enter 100k I think not sure my friend paid.




fast eddie 48

Thanks Fast Eddie. I asked about your post and it does seem there is a King Cross in Kota as well. I'm not sure if there are more than 2, but the one in Kota is closer to me than the one in Kelapa Gading so I'll check that one out. It sounds similar to Malioboro or Alexis.

Checked out JC (under Mulia hotel) on both Christmas evenings. 25 was very quiet, 26 much better. Place has western price level, which is not a surprise since the Mulia is one of the top hotels of Jakarta. Girls were both nice but nothing really special, 20 and 23 years. Service was not bad but nothing special.

Also checked the Plaza M shopping Mall. The day before Christmas there were free lancers walking around, but on 25 and 26 not one.

But got a few phone nrs of shop girls. Saw only three other caucasian guys in the 3 days I visited that place.

Plaza Indonesia: inside saw no WG's. Shop girls are more distant, but still got a phone nr of a young cutie.

But if you are not at ease with chatting up girls you better spend your tine otherwise.

Visited a few bars in Blok M but we were obviously too late (23:00), most places were empty already.

Stay in Makaham hotel. Very nice place but not cheap. Girls had no problems, neither coming in nor going out.

More reports later in the week.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Did you talk to her by phone before first meeting?. Always always do that to avoid probs. A ladyboy has an obvious voice.[/QUOTE]

Just for the benefit of anyone new to Jakarta - no offence FreebieFan but I have to say that many ladyboys have a voice which is not obvious, especially if you aren't familiar with Indonesian girls/young men. So take care!

Would I be best staying in Blok M for entertainment and accomodation

I don't really want to move around to much

I am going to pay for women any way

Hope any freebies comealong ok. But I am not expecting that. I see somebody posted that at 11. 00pm most bars not many girls(thats weird). I thought thats the time they start coming in

Any reccomendations will be greatly appreciated

Cheers

My friend and I moved to the Mercure Rekso hotel, in a diferent part of the city to check out the scene there. Here you are very close to Stadium, Kartika and more of these places.

Good hotel but nothing special. Girls no problem. To find Kartika en Stadium:
with you back to the hotel entrance turn left. Walk a few streets and on your left you see in a small alley at the end the Kartika sign. Stadium is a few streets further. Just ask around.

Stadium: been there two times now. On first floor: food and bar Second floor karaoke (empty when we checked), 3rd floor (see later) and 4th floor dance club. The dance club is nice, many WG's but so dark that you hardly see what you "buy".

On the 3rd floor is the brothel. Many nice girls, good rooms. We took 4 times a girl and paid IDR 30.000 (roughly USD 30) for 1 hour girl plus VIP room. Good service, beautiful girls, no complaints!

[QUOTE=Fslag338]IDR 30.000 (roughly USD 30) for 1 hour girl plus VIP room.[/QUOTE]

That would be IDR 300.000.

Hi bros,

Anybody knows the place where I can enjoy the new year eve with Sashimi sex which was introduced in Jakarta Undercover I?

I can invite the info provider.

Cheers!

Jakarta Alpinist

[QUOTE=Jakarta Alpinist]Hi bros,

Anybody knows the place where I can enjoy the new year eve with Sashimi sex which was introduced in Jakarta Undercover I?

I can invite the info provider.

Cheers!

Jakarta Alpinist[/QUOTE]

Give Sumo massage in Kelapa Gading a call. If they don't do it there, they probably know where it is done.

I've never had any interest in that at all though so I don't know myself where it would be located.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]Give Sumo massage in Kelapa Gading a call. If they don't do it there, they probably know where it is done.

I've never had any interest in that at all though so I don't know myself where it would be located.[/QUOTE]Dear Smoothy,

Thank you for your enlightment. I will follow up with the Sumo.

Once I get info, I will invite you if you don't mind.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Jakarta Alpinist]Dear Smoothy,

Thank you for your enlightment. I will follow up with the Sumo.

Once I get info, I will invite you if you don't mind.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Thanks for the offer, but I am in Bangkok this week. Hope you find the place though. If they don't know, maybe the guys at Malioboro can tell you.

Greatly appreciate all the info, and will defineltly sign up soon. I have narrowed down my options to staying at travellers hotel near all clubs (as explained and melawi Blok M. Very hard decision to make. Have met a few nice birds on another chat line, so if I were to get lucky with them I think travellers bestbet(I feel its not as a giveaway whoring hotel) but whom am I to know, haven't been to jakarta since 1988.

I love going to bars and clubs and paying for it too, but having hard decsion to make a choice, which area to stay.

Am I better off in travellers hotel area or Blok M

Again I request assistance on our experinced members, to the upmost respect I give.

Thanks again

[QUOTE=Jakarta Alpinist]Hi bros,

Anybody knows the place where I can enjoy the new year eve with Sashimi sex which was introduced in Jakarta Undercover I?

I can invite the info provider.

Cheers!

Jakarta Alpinist[/QUOTE]An pray tell, what the f**k is Sashimi Sex??

after arrival went by airport bus to blok m (takes more than 1 hour, but i wasn't in a hurry, cost 20. 000 idr) – the bus stop is right a blok m plaza and it is a 2 minutes walk to my hotel

stayed at amaris hotel – 410. 000 idr a night incl. breakfast (coffee, tea, water orange "juice", eggs your style, toast, jam, fried noodles and rice) – totally gf – rooms are small but ok for a few days, but they are very loud – wifi free at lobby, but it is very slow and sometimes doesn't work

[url]www.amarishotel.com[/url]

did my reservation by email and it was no problem. quite fast replies

walk to

blok m plaza 2 minutes

blok m square 8 minutes

jalan palatehan is about 12 minutes

jalan palatehan:

went mostly to top gun – there were the most girls

my bar only very few girls

weekends more girls than during the week

overall: my observation: girl-guy ratio is at least 3 to 1. weekends and during the week

prices: got quoted.

. for st: 600. 000 idr. could bargain down to 400. 000 idr

. for lt: 800. 000-1. 000. 000 idr. could bargain down to 500-600. 000 idr (but you can also be lucky to get a 400. 000 idr lt deal)

but there are also girls who stand firm with their request and don't wanna go down. i just moved on

very difficult (but not impossible!) to find a camera friendly girl

a word of warning:

i have talked to several **** girls in top gun. one was only 16yo, the other 3 were only 17yo. i do not know the indonesian laws (age of consent?), but i just moved on. i don't wanna see a indonesian prison from inside.

on the other hand the girls quite frankly told me their age. and also the amaris hotel didn't seem to bother about this, since they never asked for an id.

taxis from jl. palatehan back to hotel amaris: (actually according to the meter it is only 9-10. 000 idr)

by an ordered blue bird taxi 25. 000 idr (no hassles, but their minimum charge is 25. 000 idr)

by a taxi just waiting outside: quoted 50. 000 idr. ridiculous!. avoid. call a blue bird or walk

freebies at blok m plaza 6th floor or even whole mall for an afternoon session: not successful. got some smiles and looks, talked to a few shortly, but had no luck!

cheers

dv

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[QUOTE=Oldexpat]An pray tell, what the f**k is Sashimi Sex??[/QUOTE][url]http://books.google.com/books?id=BXau9iAI4dcC&pg=PT58&lpg=PT58&dq=Sashimi+Sex+jakarta&source=bl&ots=Y9tecmhugy&sig=g53aKk76HDPhEX9dbttPijPmWvY&hl=en&ei=ZWE_S4_BN4OwlAe-6IWhBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Sashimi%20Sex%20jakarta&f=false[/url]

Bule2004

[QUOTE=Oldexpat]An pray tell, what the f**k is Sashimi Sex??[/QUOTE]

If Im not mistaken he is talking about where sushi or sashimi is served on a naked girl lying down and acting as a place to eat the sushi. Once this was available in 1001 Club but not sure if it is still available! As for the sex part I presume it's with the girl and hopefully not with the sashimi! ;)

Heyya

I'm about to organise a b.party in Jakarta, I would like to call a private stripers for the party. Do you fellow mongers know or have any idea, where can I get this kind of service in Jkt and how much does it cost? Cheers

[QUOTE=Zam Borer]Heyya

I'm about to organise a b.party in Jakarta, I would like to call a private stripers for the party. Do you fellow mongers know or have any idea, where can I get this kind of service in Jkt and how much does it cost? Cheers[/QUOTE]


Just about 8 posts and all of them only full of questions. Not a single report which portrays what you experienced. I guess you thought we are a bunch of blokes in Jakarta to give you info on private strippers indiscriminately to a newbie out here without a single report. Try your luck.

Cheers

[QUOTE=John Aldrich]Just about 8 posts and all of them only full of questions. Not a single report which portrays what you experienced. I guess you thought we are a bunch of blokes in Jakarta to give you info on private strippers indiscriminately to a newbie out here without a single report. Try your luck.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

Ha, ha, ha! With the Australian Open that will start soon in mind, I'd say that's an "ace" John :)

[QUOTE=Menteng]Ha, ha, ha! With the Australian Open that will start soon in mind, I'd say that's an "ace" John :)[/QUOTE]

I guess we all have a code of conduct out here Menteng. When are you back to Jakarta. Jakarta is obviously missing you.

Cheers

Arrived in Jakarta ... staying at Somerset Citara apartments. Looking for some actions ... in-house service and full service sopay massage. Will appreciate if experienced people here provide some guidance/contact details.

Thanking you in advance.

Shari Oz

"Freebies at Blok M Plaza 6th floor or even whole mall for an afternoon session: not successful. Got some smiles and looks, talked to a few shortly, but had no luck!"

- for future visits I suggest you try the cinema on the top floor in Blok M Plaza where girls often hang around to get taken in without having to pay. Of course they will happily change their minds and go elsewhere with you if the price is right.

In my experience, you won't find many stunners in the movie theater at Blok M Plaza either. However, it seems that mall is closed now because they had a fire or something recently involving the generators. I hear it wasn't a major problem that destroyed the mall, but the problem was severe enough that the mall is shut down until the problem is fixed. I'm not sure when it will re-open.

Atrium mall is a better option regardless.

Hello guys,

I will be back in Jakarta in about 2 weeks time.

I have been to Hotel Travel but now I want to try other locations.

Which place is better and similar to Hotel Travel:

Stadium, Kartika or TC?

What´s about safety (police action) I heard rumours about trouble at Stadium some weeks ago. I don´t want to get in contact with the indonesian police during a raid.

If I am right then the price is almost the same 300 k for the girl / mamasan plus drink and tip.

I will post my reports after my visit.

Thanks

That's undoubtedly true - and as for the cinema girls, I certainly wouldn't expect to find "stunners", having said that I wouldn't expect to find them in Atrium either...

[QUOTE=Young German]Hello, guys,

I will be back in Jakarta in about 2 weeks time.

I have been to Hotel Travel but now I want to try other locations.

Which place is better and similar to Hotel Travel:

Stadium, Kartika or TC?

What's about safety (police action) I heard rumours about trouble at Stadium some weeks ago. I don't want to get in contact with the indonesian police during a raid.

If I am right then the price is almost the same 300 k for the girl / mamasan plus drink and tip.

I will post my reports after my visit.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Young German,

I will said the Stadium will be the closest thing to hotel travel, the all 3 are almost the same price but out of all place I think hotel travel have the most and the best looking girls.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Young German]Hello guys,

I will be back in Jakarta in about 2 weeks time.

I have been to Hotel Travel but now I want to try other locations.

Which place is better and similar to Hotel Travel:

Stadium, Kartika or TC?

What´s about safety (police action) I heard rumours about trouble at Stadium some weeks ago. I don´t want to get in contact with the indonesian police during a raid.

If I am right then the price is almost the same 300 k for the girl / mamasan plus drink and tip.

I will post my reports after my visit.

Thanks[/QUOTE]


Try out Hotel Astika , along Mangga Besar Raya No. 76 ( near to Oasis SPA) . Clean and near to all actions. I've tried the cheaper Business Deluxe at Rp 256.5 K , but find it small and but the Executive rooms may suit your taste at Rp 315 K.

[QUOTE=Young German]...Which place is better and similar to Hotel Travel:

Stadium, Kartika or TC?

What´s about safety (police action) I heard rumours about trouble at Stadium some weeks ago. I don´t want to get in contact with the Indonesian police during a raid.

If I am right then the price is almost the same 300 k for the girl / mamasan plus drink and tip...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shari Oz]Arrived in Jakarta ... staying at Somerset Citra apartments. Looking for some actions ... in-house service and full service soapy massage. Will appreciate if experienced people here provide some guidance/contact details.

Thanking you in advance.

Shari Oz[/QUOTE]
The answer for both of you is the same - go to Kartika for their soapy massage. Ask for Cindy or Neneh (or both together); if they're not available, I'm sure you'll find one or two other girls to your liking.

On the same alley is Berlian Spa, ask for Inna, she can also give a soapy massage (make sure you tell her before you go upstairs to the room), and she's lots of fun to be with.

For Young German, the Stadium Night Club usually only gets raided around the Muslim religious holidays (Ramadan, Eid al Fitri a/k/a Lebaran, and Eid-al-Adha), which don't occur again until early August and afterwards. But there's no guarantee that the Stadium won't be raided today or tomorrow. So, if you're really that worried, then don't bother going there, there are lots of other night spots - the Blok M spots (D's Place, Top Gun, etc.), BATS at the Shangri-La Hotel, CJ's at Hotel Mulia, Tiga Puluh at Hotel Le Meridien, etc.

For Shari Oz, the Somerset Citra is very girl-friendly, however the in-house spa at the Somerset Citra is most likely a massage-only place, especially in the spa itself. If the girl comes upstairs to your apartment, you might get some action, depending on the girl, but I wouldn't count on it.

Both of you might also like Hotel Malioboro (I've written a few posts about this place).

I haven't been to TC in over a year but I think TC is now closed? or at least it's not as good as it used to be.

[QUOTE=But there's no guarantee that the Stadium won't be raided today or tomorrow. So, if you're really that worried, then don't bother going there, there are lots of other night spots - the Blok M spots (D's Place, Top Gun, etc.), BATS at the Shangri-La Hotel, CJ's at Hotel Mulia, Tiga Puluh at Hotel Le Meridien, etc.[/QUOTE]


A very good advice from Mighty Spearman. Stadium is a sleazy and dodgy place where you will be bugged by mamasan, pimps, girls, ladyboys, drug pushers and some low life looking to make a quick buck.

Just stick to the recommended spots.

Enjoy!

Not familiar with the southern part of Jakarta being the China town sort of guy all this time.

When we say Melawai and Melawai II, the 6th floor magic place is the one with the back to blok m square carefour entrance? I saw the glassy entrance to the hotel but unsure if this is the right one before the walk of shame through the lobby..anyone enlighten me?

What happen when you are a foriegner stuck in a police raid? Any tip or experienced monger can share with us how to get out of trouble?

Then I will try Kartika and Hotel Astika or Malioboro because I will stay a full weekend in Jakarta so I have some time.

I think I will also go to Hotel Travel because I like it but I think my last adventures there will still remember me.

I have been at BATS but not at CJ´s so far but I met some guys from Australia on my last trip (at BATS) and they told me that CJ is much better more choice and nicer/better looking girls.

I'm in town for a couple of weeks. Mostly, I'll be around the PI area.

Friday, went to Tropical in the afternoon around 2pm. Tropical been through up and down but I think they are now doing ok. The latest experiences prompted me to share

Anyhow getting there for newbie. Heading north from the famous Hi round about or Plaza Indonesia which mean you will be on Jalan Sudirman, you will pass Monas monument and government building area keep going noth. When you arrive at Harmoni will see on your left a Carefour mall go pass that and the first left turn make the turn go straight up the road for 2-3 kms you will see arrive at a cross over bridge with a shopping mall on the side call ITC Roxy Mas. Donot go on the bridge! Stay left and turn into the parking lot of the mall just at the foot of bridge. After pay toll, go straight down the parking and ignore the right turn into the mall's lobby. Just count the 3rd small road on the left and tropical is right there about 30mtr down the road very visible.

Decent pool area and user friendly are two of good features off Tropical. I usually found only 2people max using the pool at one time which telling me people in this part of town like to just go straight up stair which is fine by me. On Friday the Freelances came out a little late so around 2pm only one girl there on the couch but the quality is ok. Freelancers here likely to be around 7-8 heads at one time and I think they ensure no grade 5/10 or below exist so 6-7/10 seems to be the norm here. I use to notice they tried to have one of any kind here leggy, dark girl, pitch black, kecil putih, big boobs, etc because small sofa area haha.

Anyway I opted for a massage., after discuss/demand muda(young) and putih(white) stuff with my limited bahasa and a small 10k tips up front. Nomor 72. Cantik and baru the guy said so I went for her. And my one buck works as usual. These boys work for tips or potential tips and they know good products so I always rely on the law of demand and supply to work. If you shown no signal for tips, they would keep good meat for the next clients.

Now this is the first time I met with a 7 in this place. Normally I donot raise any expectation. Didn't get the name and stop trying to find out stage name long time ago but she could speak some English(my guess, went through Singapore) with good accent and must be through some Thai cooking class or something. Within the first 10minutes of massaging she said do you like body massage I said yes then she said I like also. Negotiate all the naughty stuff inclusive of full body massage at 500k. I usually pay around 300-350 in that place but curiosity told me to say let's go.

OK now for someone who went through numerous body massage in Bangkok, this is clearly at the very top level when come to sensual and penetration. The girl seems to enjoy the move more than me. It got very oily after a while but is like it. Front and back and oil in pussy. At the very end she grab a condom and put on. No shower or anything which is new for me since couldn't suck on oily nipple but not in a bad way. Since oil is in play so I also grab some and stick in her tight little 2 holes and rub her good.

Man this really give you the sensation. The sex part last a lot longer and it is quite wild when you both are so slippery like a fish in a pan.

Anyway, she is new in the job less than 1 month still enjoy the game(sure to be old from somewhere else) so I suppose I give you a lead and show her the game.

Overall tropical is not for anyone, calm, clean, inexpensive not a place you bring client for classy show off but nice place to spend time with yourself and not feel like rushing in a meat market.

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hi all

occassional vistor to jakarta, occassional monger, forum newbie. been lurking around the forum doing research and thought i should give back by providing a report on some activities from my recent trip. have to say that the forum is great and there is very little you can't find out by an investment of a bit of time, good use of the forum search function and google maps. fr as follows.

hotel alexis

well it was the start of the new year and i was looking for an experience to kick things off with a "bang" so to speak. after a bit of research i decided to give the spa on the 7th floor of alexis hotel a try as a luxerous alternative experience. knew it was going to be expensive and went into things with eyes wide open.

first things, i arrived at the hotel and had my water bottle (usually take an aqua in the taxi with me) politely confirep001ed on entry. hmmmm. be aware i guess.

into the lobby and was meet by a "friendly chap" who asked if i wanted something special and offered to host me. on yes he promptly took me to the 5th floor and explained i would get a "very good special service" for rp1. 95million for 90mins. while prepared for about this pricing level, it did seem a bit steep and i thought i should be on the 7th floor at the spa area. mentioned this and the reply was 7th floor massage only at rp1. 75million and i would only get the special service here. i was pretty sure he was bullshitting me so i would take service at "his place", but go with the flow (since i'm here for the experience) and said ok. paid at the counter and got taken to a room for a line up. seven girls brought in. all asian foriegn as expected from china, vietnam, etc and 8-9 level. chose a pretty young thing from china on the recommendation my host.

got taken to another room for the service. room did not really meet expectations as i was expecting 5+ star quality after forum reports on l7. decor mostly black, only matress on the floor (not bed), shower area not so well maintained and not really 5 star quality. perhaps this impression is a matter of taste.

still we got down to business. the girl was friendly though did not speak much english. she showered me and gave a bit of hand play to start things moving. on to the bed for a bit of bj to warm me up. some rub down and then what was called a helicopter style bj. something new for me. a bit more explaination for anyone as unfamilar as i was. on the ceiling of the room above the mattress there was some standard massage bars for the girl to grab onto when giving a massage with her feet (probably not often used for this i would guess!). my girl proceeded to hook a long scaf twice over these bars and then sat in it like a trapeze. she then fell backwards (exactly like a trapeze artist) and proceeded to give me a bj to completion while spinning around on my cock like a helicopter. impressive.

i was turned over and given a rub down with a cold or cooling solution. this was then taken off by the girl by licking/bubbling a warm solution over my body. quite pleasant. this was followed a rimming session. was turned over and the cold/hot treatment was repeated on my now hard again cock as bj but not to completion. a standard got and missionary to finish things off. final shower to end things. tip of rp200k requested and given.

overall an interesting expensive experience. bit mechanical though as my girl, while nice and friendly, definately had a schedule which she kept to. no gfe. all activities done safely. one-off experience, would not go back, but it might appeal to others.

delta spa

located on the corner of jl rasuna and jl gatot subroto. this is more a health spa type place and is not a fs place. well maintained, nice facilities. probably rates as 4+ stars. friendly staff. spa facilities, sauna, pools, etc on ground level. move to 2nd level for massage. took a suite room (with bath) plus extra session as this gives a full body massage (front and back) for two hours but passed on the hot stone massage or mud bath. excellent professional massage. given a hj which i think seems to be part of "the package" but massuse kept clothes though allowed a bit of feeling up.

overall the damage was about rp610k (included a coke for a drink while waiting for massuse) and an excellent way to spend 3+ hours (after using the spa facilities). there are ordinary suite rooms priced cheaper and if one of these were selected expected then the damage would probably be about rp450k all up. if you are after a real massage then this place would be recommended.

hotel melawai/maribaya bar

can't add much to what has been writen previously. went around 4pm. picked a reasonably hot looking girl out of about 15 of varying quality hanging around. reasonable english, friendly, excellent service in a pretty clean room (but obviously only about 2-3 star). daty. shower with hj. sex in several positions. great bbbj. offered no condom but passed on that of course.

note that after being brought to the room by my choice of girl, another one just stuck her head in and offered to be 2nd girl. passed on that as not what i was here for. she really needed to shooed out.

was charged rp450k for the room (was there about an hour) and tipped rp100k to the girl. i know from forum standard tip here is about rp50k but she gave good service and there was no pressure/push on her part (which tends to make me more willing to be generous). i do note that she offered to take payment for the room (i could either pay her or at reception) but i thought it might be better/safer to pay at reception. possibly if i elected to pay her then the quoted price might have included a tip but who knows.

that's all folks. hope this is useful and adds to the body of knowledge on the forum.

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[QUOTE=Sulla883]Hi All

Hotel Melawai/Maribaya Bar

Can't add much to what has been writen previously. Went around 4pm. Picked a reasonably hot looking girl out of about 15 of varying quality hanging around. Reasonable English, friendly, excellent service in a pretty clean room (but obviously only about 2-3 star). DATY. Shower with HJ. Sex in several positions. Great BBBJ. Offered no condom but passed on that of course.

Note that after being brought to the room by my choice of girl, another one just stuck her head in and offered to be 2nd girl. Passed on that as not what I was here for. She really needed to shooed out.

Was charged Rp450k for the room (was there about an hour) and tipped Rp100k to the girl. I know from forum standard tip here is about Rp50k but she gave good service and there was no pressure/push on her part (which tends to make me more willing to be generous). I do note that she offered to take payment for the room (I could either pay her or at reception) but I thought it might be better/safer to pay at reception. Possibly if I elected to pay her then the quoted price might have included a tip but who knows.

That's all folks. Hope this is useful and adds to the body of knowledge on the forum.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Thanks Sulla. I went also to Maribaya bar recently and had been charged 450. 000 IDR, indeed. So, they went up 50. 000 again, which makes the Kebon Jeruk area (Kartika etc.), Hotel Travel etc. Even more a better deal now (250 300. 000 IDR)! Same experience with girls trying to pop in in the room for a 3-some, which I refused.

I took a tall, friendly girl with good body proportions and a pretty face. Most of the girls at Maribaya are in fact not that pretty. Take your time at the bar before choosing. But the service is good and the girls are mostly horny. Indeed, 50. 000 tip is common but no problem to give 100. 000 when the service is really good. The girl gave me good GFE and allowed me a messy CIM, so she deserved a 100. 000 tip.

However, while reading the report, I got very worried about the girl offering sex without condom. This is really crazy! It's not 100% uncommon in Jakarta being offered that, I know, but at Maribaya they should know better. We really have to make clear to the girls this is not acceptable! Moreover, I suggest everybody to bring own condoms from the well-known worldwide sold brand, as it happened to me already two times at Maribaya I fucked through the poorly made condoms offered by the girls. Scaring!

[QUOTE=Sulla883]
Was charged Rp450k for the room (was there about an hour) and tipped Rp100k to the girl. I know from forum standard tip here is about Rp50k but she gave good service and there was no pressure/push on her part (which tends to make me more willing to be generous). I do note that she offered to take payment for the room (I could either pay her or at reception) but I thought it might be better/safer to pay at reception. Possibly if I elected to pay her then the quoted price might have included a tip but who knows.[/QUOTE]

I was there the other day and the price at Melawai is now 450k (it was 400k until just recently). Actually, it doesn't matter if you give the money to the girl or at reception. The "tip" is not included in that price. The girl does get a cut of that 450k "room charge", but it's still customary to give a tip (50 to 100k) - especially when the service is good.

[quote=sulla883]into the lobby and was meet by a "friendly chap" who asked if i wanted something special and offered to host me. on yes he promptly took me to the 5th floor and explained i would get a "very good special service" for rp1. 95million for 90mins. while prepared for about this pricing level, it did seem a bit steep and i thought i should be on the 7th floor at the spa area. mentioned this and the reply was 7th floor massage only at rp1. 75million and i would only get the special service here.[/quote]

total bullshit. the top floor is much better. smll bar ahead as you enter, then to the right beach chairs to lounge under the skylights. opposite the beachchairs, little divan enclosures with cloth draped around. just beyond the beachchairs, three pools (hot, warm, icy) and steam room and sauna. lounge, have drinks, order food, take it easy. any time you like, ask for a lineup. get the choice of about 6 nationalities, round about between 1.8 and 2.x million. your choice dons a bikini and joins you in the pool, steam room, mops your brow, etc etc. then go down to the room, standard operating procedure follows. (afterwards she gives you a card to fill in how much tip you want to give her on top of the fee, hmf.)

the girls are all congregated in a lounge just beyond the stairs down to the rooms. nice lounge bar, low soft seats, guys in the middle drinking, looking, smoking, talking; girls around the sides. at least 100, groups of them moving around following mamasan for lineups in various parts of the place.

so in conclusion sounds like you didn't really get to see the best side of the place.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]Get the choice of about 6 nationalities, round about between 1.8 and 2.x million.[/QUOTE]

At these prices, does Alexis accept credit cards? Caesars and Poseidon do in Bangkok, and I have not heard of any fraud cases.

[QUOTE=Txl Muc]At these prices, does Alexis accept credit cards? Caesars and Poseidon do in Bangkok, and I have not heard of any fraud cases.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely yes. Even the lower end places like Hotel Melawai usually accept them. I've never had any problems with fraud.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff] Lounge, have drinks, order food, take it easy. Any time you like, ask for a lineup. Get the choice of about 6 nationalities, round about between 1.8 and 2.x million. Your choice dons a bikini and joins you in the pool, steam room, mops your brow, etc etc. Then go down to the room, standard operating procedure follows. (Afterwards she gives you a card to fill in how much tip you want to give her on top of the fee, hmf.)

The girls are all congregated in a lounge just beyond the stairs down to the rooms. Nice lounge bar, low soft seats, guys in the middle drinking, looking, smoking, talking; girls around the sides. At least 100, groups of them moving around following mamasan for lineups in various parts of the place.[/QUOTE]Sounds Good Rocksoff - as a regular contributor (but rare visitor to Indo) can you advise whether this is more than one pop? Would think so - and how many hours? 200USD sounds like 2 hours, 2 pops but confirmation wd b great.

Also is Alexis North or South (Blok M)? I did RTFF but haven't figured that out. Txs.

[QUOTE=RonnieMonger]

Also is Alexis North or South (Blok M)? I did RTFF but haven't figured that out. Txs.[/QUOTE]

Very much in North Jakarta, virtually at Ancol on the coast. Not thats its a big deal getting there outside of rush hour traffic.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]The answer for both of you is the same. Go to Kartika for their soapy massage. Ask for Cindy or Neneh (or both together); if they're not available, I'm sure you'll find one or two other girls to your liking.[/QUOTE]I have visited Kartika yesterday and choosen Neneh. Price same as Hotel Travel 300k. Kartika ius close to Stadium at the end of the next alley. I would give Hotel Travel a 7 out of 10 and Kartika only 5. The place is not so nice and the rooms are very small. The whole place looks a like it has had better times. The girls are nice but for my opinion Hotel Travel has a better stock. Also at Kartika you must speak Bahasa Indonesia and my language skill are just enough.

Neneh is a nice girl 32 years old.

Short summary:

Attitude 8, 5 esp. Soapy massage

Look: 7

Room: 5 (but clean)

Building etc: 5

One thing that have made me some pain. After the soapy massage she gave me a BBJ but she cleaned my little friend with a towel and before that she has put some kind of Listerine on the towel. It was still Ok during BBJ and also the sex was good. But after throwing the condom away and cleaning my small friend it has hurt (contact water with my small friend). I think Listerine and small friend together covered under a condom is not a good idea.

Already 5 minutes later it was better again but I have had still some pain by touching my friends head 2 hours later. Now everything is fine again.

So I can go to Hotel Travel today.

More later on

Sorry my girl just left so here my second report.

Went Friday night at first to BATS. Reached around 9:30 pm still empty. And no real lookers. Girl were only 5 to 7 and most of them 30 +. I already wanted to leave around 10: 30 pm as suddenly 2 gems came in. The younger one (I gess max 22 years old) with a baby face and tall. I would give her a 9 and her friend a little bit older around 25 but als a 8 to 8, 5. Fortunately they decided to go next to my table. So we started to talk a little bit and I really wanted this gem. But around 11:00 pm I asked her if she would come with me. She said yes but only ST and at first she wanted to have 1 Mio for 2 hours. Later on then 3 hours for 1 Mio. I was willing to pay her 800 k for LT. Because it was getting late already and I didn't want to bargain too much and I didn't know if I will have succes I decided to leave to Block M.

Reached Top Gun around 11:30 pm. Some girls were already leaving but it was still crowded. I think ratio girl / men was 3 to 1.

I choose a quite nice young and cute girl. She is only 23 years old but like most of the girls she has a baby. Married with 17, baby with 18 husband left her and now she is working here (I think 75 % of the girls have the same story). I would give her a 7, 5 but a great attitude. Normally at Top Gun I order a beer go one round and then I sit at the bar or table and look around. The I have already 2-3 girls in mind. I just observe them but so that they don't realise it. Later on I choose the most froendly one (smilling and laughing with her friends). Untill now this was every time a got success. We went back to the hotel and I gave her 600 k the next morning.

Service: French kissing and she loves it like hell. Also in the morning she couldn't stop. Sex in different position and a good attitude.

She came back to the hotel last night and she just left damage another 600 k. She will came back tonight. Now I have to recharge my batterie with a nice real maasage then later on some food at Plaza Indonesia. After that I have to go to Hotel Travel and then back to the hotel because she will reach tonight at 8:00 pm.

If I find a good girl with a good attitude and a real GF feeling then I try to stay with her for my whole trip in Jakarta otherwise I just go out and get another girl for the next night.

Just tell the girl: pakalan panjang that means long cloth because I prefer to meet the girl the second night in the lobby and so she shouldn't look too much like a hooker. Esp. I come her 4-5 times per year and stay in the same hotel. The second night the girl comes already at 8:00 pm and she normally stays untill lunch time. You also save money because you don't have to take a taxi to Desperado or Block M and then drink a beer there. You save at least 200 k.

[QUOTE=RonnieMonger]can you advise whether this is more than one pop? Would think so - and how many hours? 200USD sounds like 2 hours, 2 pops but confirmation wd b great.[/QUOTE]

I only got 1 pop, and a fairly workmanlike one at that. And then got hit with the tip coupon, with check boxes for 50K, 100K, 200K ... It was 90 minutes. Actually had a much better time with a girl in Hotel Travel, grabbable ass and hair down to her waist, who gave me an encore HJ without me having to ask. That was for something like 350K. By the way, my Alexis girl told me that she lives near Sparks Hotel on Manga Besar, which is around the corner from Hotel Travel. So you can probably find her in Stadium for a fraction of what she costs at Alexis. She had bruises on her foot that she told me she got from dancing at Stadium while high, someone stepped on her.

Yesterday been to Hotel Travel:

Hotel Travel I would give 3 star and Kartika then 1,5 Star.

Hotel Travel is much better and nicer. The whole atmosphere is much better also the girls are hotter. You can choose your girl and the mamasan gives you an adv. The girls are sitting in a couch area and they are not allowed to approach you only if the mamasan calls them. At Kartika at least 4-5 girls already approached me on my way to the bar. My regular girl at hotel Travel was already waiting for me. Damage 300 k plus tip for 2 shots and a very nice session.

Every room has a shower, A/C, big double bed and also a TV.
Every girl does BBj, Daty and kissing is also no problem. If you are a regular visitor and the girl knows you then sometimes even CIM and anal is possible (but normally not).

My reports from Saturday needed over 24 hours to appear in the forum.
That´s slow.

Thanks for excellent posts and quick replies to both. It seems things get going quite late in South. Is it the same for this area in the north? As ThatAsshole used to say, for us old guys. We need to be in bed (sleeping) by midnight. So want to get early action in. Waiting around in bars drinking until 11pm is not really the type of foreplay I had in mind. Further advice?

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]I only got 1 pop, and a fairly workmanlike one at that. And then got hit with the tip coupon, with check boxes for 50K, 100K, 200K ... It was 90 minutes. Actually had a much better time with a girl in Hotel Travel, grabbable ass and hair down to her waist, who gave me an encore HJ without me having to ask. That was for something like 350K. By the way, my Alexis girl told me that she lives near Sparks Hotel on Manga Besar, which is around the corner from Hotel Travel. So you can probably find her in Stadium for a fraction of what she costs at Alexis. She had bruises on her foot that she told me she got from dancing at Stadium while high, someone stepped on her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Young German]Yesterday been to Hotel Travel:

Hotel Travel I would give 3 star and Kartika then 1,5 Star.

Hotel Travel is much better and nicer. The whole atmosphere is much better also the girls are hotter. You can choose your girl and the mamasan gives you an adv. The girls are sitting in a couch area and they are not allowed to approach you only if the mamasan calls them. At Kartika at least 4-5 girls already approached me on my way to the bar...

...My reports from Saturday needed over 24 hours to appear in the forum.
That´s slow.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for all of your good posts.

The 24-hour wait is because you are not a senior member yet, but if you continue writing good posts, you'll become a Senior soon.

Sorry that you didn't like Kartika so much, but I'm sure that you'll admit that Neneh was nice and that the soapy massage itself was a lot of fun.

[QUOTE=Barson]...What happens when you are a foreigner stuck in a police raid? Any tip an experienced monger can share with us how to get out of trouble?[/QUOTE]
Wow, a good question.

My experience in Indonesia is that a cash donation (i.e. bribe) can always help when one is confronted by police in a situation that's not truly criminal, such as a traffic stop or a spa bust. Most cops would rather let a foreigner go than go through the bother of busting them, plus they are underpaid and would prefer the money anyway.

It might cost you up to 500,000 rupiah (US $50) to have the cop let you walk away from a massage parlor raid, but that's better for you than getting arrested.

Any thoughts from my fellow Seniors - Menteng? bulai69? Smoothy? et al...

P.S. I'm adding this afterwards - the above scenario is one more reason why one shouldn't walk around town with a lot of money in their pockets. If you're inside a place like Stadium, and it gets busted, the cops would probably want whatever is left in your wallet as a bribe to let you go. So if you have 500,000 rupiah, then, then that's what they'd get, but if you have 2 or 3 million, you risk losing all of it for the cops to let you go.

What made me add this comment was that I've just remembered a situation I was in nearly 20 years ago in a corrupt African country, where I was someplace that got busted and I had to empty my wallet (which had $175 in it) in order to be let go. Since then, I've always walked around with minimal cash - safer that way.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Thanks for all of your good posts.

The 24-hour wait is because you are not a senior member yet, but if you continue writing good posts, you'll become a Senior soon.

Sorry that you didn't like Kartika so much, but I'm sure that you'll admit that Neneh was nice and that the soapy massage itself was a lot of fun.[/QUOTE]Neneh was quite nice but if I compare 300 k plus tip at Kartika and 300 k plus tip at Hotel Travel then I would choose hotel Travel. But the soapy massage was good and Neneh has a good attitude.

The atmosphere at Travel is much better then Kartika. Starting with the building from the outside etc. I don´t understand why it is the same price level.

Your figure of 500K Rups is correct, and as you said they really don't want the publicity or paperwork of processing a foreigner. Try to do it with a bit of subtleness though!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Wow, a good question.

My experience in Indonesia is that a cash donation (i.e. bribe) can always help when one is confronted by police in a situation that's not truly criminal, such as a traffic stop or a spa bust. Most cops would rather let a foreigner go than go through the bother of busting them, plus they are underpaid and would prefer the money anyway.

It might cost you up to 500,000 rupiah (US $50) to have the cop let you walk away from a massage parlor raid, but that's better for you than getting arrested.

Any thoughts from my fellow Seniors - Menteng? bulai69? Smoothy? et al...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RonnieMonger]It seems things get going quite late in South. Is it the same for this area in the north?[/QUOTE]

Places like Hotel Travel, Kartika and the parlors around it, Malioboro (more upscale) on Galan Mada, the massage floor at Stadium are all open for business at least from the afternoon.

[QUOTE=Young German]Neneh was quite nice but if I compare 300 k plus tip at Kartika and 300 k plus tip at Hotel Travel then I would choose hotel Travel. But the soapy massage was good and Neneh has a good attitude.

The atmosphere at Travel is much better then Kartika. Starting with the building from the outside etc. I don´t understand why it is the same price level.[/QUOTE]

Hotel Travel is a nicer building for sure. It also has better looking girls. However, in my experience, the girls at Kartika provide far better service than the girls at Hotel Travel.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Wow, a good question.

My experience in Indonesia is that a cash donation (i.e. bribe) can always help when one is confronted by police in a situation that's not truly criminal, such as a traffic stop or a spa bust. Most cops would rather let a foreigner go than go through the bother of busting them, plus they are underpaid and would prefer the money anyway.

It might cost you up to 500,000 rupiah (US $50) to have the cop let you walk away from a massage parlor raid, but that's better for you than getting arrested.

Any thoughts from my fellow Seniors - Menteng? bulai69? Smoothy? et al...

P.S. I'm adding this afterwards - the above scenario is one more reason why one shouldn't walk around town with a lot of money in their pockets. If you're inside a place like Stadium, and it gets busted, the cops would probably want whatever is left in your wallet as a bribe to let you go. So if you have 500,000 rupiah, then, then that's what they'd get, but if you have 2 or 3 million, you risk losing all of it for the cops to let you go.

What made me add this comment was that I've just remembered a situation I was in nearly 20 years ago in a corrupt African country, where I was someplace that got busted and I had to empty my wallet (which had $175 in it) in order to be let go. Since then, I've always walked around with minimal cash - safer that way.[/QUOTE]


Sound advice! I don't think there's much to be added.

The only time I had to pay was when I walked through a glass door at Pasaraya Grande. There was no sign that the door could not be used. (No first-aid kit either.) I was thinking of sueing the management for not having tempered glass like demanded by the law and the lack of a warning to avoid that particular door. But, the head of the security refered to the outcome of a recent trial of a murder in the bar of the Hilton hotel by a son of an ex army general. So, I paid to avoid more costs. :(

In Jakata prior to Christmas tried Hotel Travel selected a nice appearence girl from the good choices availiable In room very dissapointed so much not on menu including kissing ok but uninspiring finish. If I return will check what is on the menu before booking Took taxi to what I believe to be block M area a bit early friendly reception no stock few customers returned to same street about 9 pm visited Oscars got impression ladies not keen to go for LT possibly more interested in selling drinks I would like to go back there if some brothers can advise if I was in fact at block M and some names if possible of ladies in Oscars who are recomended for LT momasan allthough friendly was not very helpfull to advise on this matter pleasant enough evening but could be improved if no need to discuss details with all staff thanks all help and advice.

[QUOTE=Omega3]In Jakata prior to Christmas tried Hotel Travel selected a nice appearence girl from the good choices availiable In room very dissapointed so much not on menu including kissing ok but uninspiring finish. If I return will check what is on the menu before booking Took taxi to what I believe to be block M area a bit early friendly reception no stock few customers returned to same street about 9 pm visited Oscars got impression ladies not keen to go for LT possibly more interested in selling drinks I would like to go back there if some brothers can advise if I was in fact at block M and some names if possible of ladies in Oscars who are recomended for LT momasan allthough friendly was not very helpfull to advise on this matter pleasant enough evening but could be improved if no need to discuss details with all staff thanks all help and advice.[/QUOTE]

Hi, well by far more choice of girls at Top Gun, Mybar and Ds place, in that order but 11 pm is about the earliest these days and in reality it is around 1 am before the evenings full selection is on show. However is Oscars is your cup of tea, there is a waitress there called Risma, maybe low 30s in age. Really nice person. Up for the odd encounter to help the cashflow. Bu tbe delicate in your approach.

[QUOTE=Omega3]Took taxi to what I believe to be block M area a bit early friendly reception no stock few customers returned to same street about 9 pm visited Oscars got impression ladies not keen to go for LT possibly more interested in selling drinks I would like to go back there if some brothers can advise if I was in fact at block M and some names if possible of ladies in Oscars who are recomended for LT momasan allthough friendly was not very helpfull to advise on this matter pleasant enough evening but could be improved if no need to discuss details with all staff thanks all help and advice.[/QUOTE]

You were on the street but wrong end where most stuff is happening and too early. Oscars was big a long time ago but not anymore.

alexis hotel lived up to expectations. arrived at 4 pm and went straight to the 7 th floor. entering the main bar area is something: maybe 100 girls and about 60 indonesians. mostly 6-7 a few 8-9. the chinese contingent is more spectacular, many with big breasts. the thai are fair and tall, no issaan spinners here. i went to sit at the long bar table in the middle of the indonesian troops who are sitting in couches. i choose the prettiest girl, yuli # 229. they wear a sexy tight fitting dress without knickers. chat and drink at the bar with yuli and two friends. then into the pool upstairs to get into the mood with back massage and subtle caressing below the water-line. after 20 minutes we went to the rooms downstairs, and i selected a suite. these rooms are large and luxurious, shower and large bath. yuli has the perfect body: firm, perky breasts, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] style. and a great performance in bed. total bill 1.2 mio rp plus tip to yuli. well worth it.

[quote=dars veider]jalan palatehan:

prices: got quoted.

. for st: 600. 000 idr. could bargain down to 400. 000 idr

. for lt: 800. 000-1. 000. 000 idr. could bargain down to 500-600. 000 idr (but you can also be lucky to get a 400. 000 idr lt deal)

but there are also girls who stand firm with their request and don't want to go down. i just moved on

very difficult (but not impossible!) to find a camera friendly girl

a word of warning:

i have talked to several **** girls in top gun. one was only 16yo, the other 3 were only 17yo. i do not know the indonesian laws (age of consent?), but i just moved on. i don't want to see a indonesian prison from inside.

on the other hand the girls quite frankly told me their age. and also the amaris hotel didn't seem to bother about this, since they never asked for an id.

taxis from jl. palatehan back to hotel amaris: (actually according to the meter it is only 9-10. 000 idr)

by an ordered blue bird taxi 25. 000 idr (no hassles, but their minimum charge is 25. 000 idr)

by a taxi just waiting outside: quoted 50. 000 idr. ridiculous!. avoid. call a blue bird or walk[/quote]blok m:

st is 250-300k

if they started with 600k then they could tell you were new

(and the fact you asked the price at all is a certain giveaway to them)

lt is 400-500k

remember: its blok m, not cjs or bats.

300k is a shitload of money for an average young woman in jakarta.

never take a taxi parked in the street in front of the bars.

walk to the end of the street (or any road nearby to hail a cab) and get a legit taxi (bluebird, express etc). they will use their meter.

the age of consent is 17.

if you are from usa its 18 (thanks the us government for that).

act like you know what you are doing and have been there before and you won't have problems with girls, prices, pics and cabs.

this is true for almost any mongering destination in se asia.

[QUOTE=Rival]Blok M:



Never take a taxi parked in the street in front of the bars.

Walk to the end of the street (or any road nearby to hail a cab) and get a legit taxi (Bluebird, Express etc). They will use their meter.

[/QUOTE]

Guys, save yourself the Taxi grief and get the bar to call you one, they all will and then you can keep on enjoying yourself while until it arrives. It will cost 25,000 iDR and if the hotel is close then arguably you are paying more than on the meter. So what, its a late night tip for the driver. You may be asked to stump up a couple of thousand for the "parking" privilege or else the Driver will pay it. If your bill is over the 25,000 sum you should reinburse the driver out of courtesy as they get flak from the dodgy taxis in the street.
Having said that there is usually an Express or Bluebird lurking at the end of the street as Rival pointed out. If you don't mind fending off the urchins and young mums looking for handouts.

[QUOTE=Cooze Hound]
Having said that there is usually an Express or Bluebird lurking at the end of the street as Rival pointed out. If you don't mind fending off the urchins and young mums looking for handouts.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes you get those jerks trying to get parking fees out on that street also. I didn't know if I should pay it or not the one time it happened.

[QUOTE=Key Master]Sometimes you get those jerks trying to get parking fees out on that street also. I didn't know if I should pay it or not the one time it happened.[/QUOTE]
If you or your taxi are parked in Jl Paletehan for more than a brief drop off or pick up then you should pay them. If you are using a taxi you have called then if you do not pay then the driver will and you should reimburse him. Regardless of the rights and wrongs its best just to go with the flow in this case.
If you are driving yourself and don't play the game wait and see how long it will be before you get a flat tire or your paint scratched down the side ....

[QUOTE=Cooze Hound]If you or your taxi are parked in Jl Paletehan for more than a brief drop off or pick up then you should pay them. If you are using a taxi you have called then if you do not pay then the driver will and you should reimburse him. Regardless of the rights and wrongs its best just to go with the flow in this case.
If you are driving yourself and don't play the game wait and see how long it will be before you get a flat tire or your paint scratched down the side ....[/QUOTE]

I experienced the same last time at Top Gun when a local Sheriff outside demanded parking fee when a Bluebird picked me up, which I found ridiculous, so I told to just drive. But to my surprise the driver paid him himself, so I gave a solid tip, way exceeding the "parking fee". A small amount of money, so I agree the best thing to do is follow the flow.

guys:

let's put this into perspective. these guys patrolling outside top gun and my bar etc. asking you for a tip for opening the door or "managing" the parking spot and are trying to scrape by on a few crumbs. the next time you come out of one of these bars with a testosterone high and one or more girls getting into your pre-arranged taxi, the tip of a let's say 5k rupiah will bring a smile and a thank-you. after all you might be bringing home his sister, cousin, wife, or girlfriend. don't make a scene. pay the man the the fifty cent tip ! lose the battle, win the war.

af

Pay the man the the fifty cent tip ! Lose the battle, win the war.

You are right and well said We lose perspective here from time to time Just like a lot of us I suspect we sometimes get greedy like a well known Monger on this site who was so hard line on his prey. I think we all need to remember we are privileged to be able to buy what we want and so we should pay a dividend to the guys who might end up protecting us all in case of a issue The girls should always be treated nicely or at worst fairly
Blok M is a place to behave and pay due respect to the people who live off the scene.

I knew an x Brit army guy who refused to pay the girls if service was not up to scratch-yep he literally booted them out of his Menteng condo Now thats hard and short sighted

sorry to lecture guys but...

Jakarta, Jakarta! My first visit in a while.

Before setting off I chatted with a few girls on Date In Asia. Only one actual psycho, a few on the make, but a surprising number of genuine people looking to meet someone a bit different without having to line up in one of the meat (sic) markets that readers of this forum like me tend to frequent. After a while it narrowed down to two who seemed both interested and interesting. One obviously gets off on having a bule b/f as a fashion accessory, which is fine by me. The other is a single parent who can't get out much, wants some attention only a man can give, but doesn't want to get entangled with a local guy. Also fine by me.

A tip to anyone using DIA. All the girls I talked to started out highly sceptical. There are obviously loads of guys who claim to be one thing and later on turn out to be something entirely different. So start honest and stay honest; otherwise, if you do find a genuine friend, you've screwed it up before it ever got started. And webcams are a no-no with anyone genuine; if you ask they will have alarm bells ringing, if they offer it's almost certainly going to end up as a commercial arrangement.

Between times, I looked in on T&C around midnight and the place was worse than dead. Tried out Oasis Spa opposite Lokasari Plaza around midday. It was quiet. Only a few girls. But what put me off was the tatty run-down feel of the place. I can cope with seedy, which Melawi Floor 6 certainly is. Early evening and the place was knee deep in girls but no customers. Fixed price of IDR 450k with tip at your discretion. The girl I picked seemed delighted just to have a customer. Lintas Melawi next door is no more. Pity, I liked that place because you could actually dance.

CJ's at the Mulia was busy. I went in my capacity of fashion accessory, so only window shopping, and there was plenty to look at. The band was bad even by Jakarta standards. I was praying for them to end their set; then the DJ turned out to be even worse! Tiga Pulah at Le Meridien was similar for talent and rather better for entertainment.

Did I read somewhere in the Forum that Top Gun was going downhill? No way from what I saw; it was just as magnificently sordid as ever. Being already well looked after, my Plan A had been to have a beer in each of the bars along the street for old times sake and then home for an early-ish night, but I never made it out of Top Gun. Among various Close Encounters of the Jakarta Kind, I chatted to a woman who could have been even older than me, which takes some doing (being older than me I mean). I am certain the massage she offered would have been intense and done my back and other parts the world of good. Got hotly and repeatedly propositioned by a girl young enough to be my granddaughter, with the option of her friend as well as a package deal. And then I caught a dazzling smile from a girl who can only be described as genuinely beautiful. When she turned out to be funny and intelligent as well, Plan A flew out the window.

Maybe I just didn't notice on previous visits, but there seems to be many more girls working the streets. I spotted a regular line up all along Harum Waruk and also on the streets around Jl Paletehan. I wasn't shopping so I can't say anything about the terms of trade.

Oh! Jakarta.

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[QUOTE=Gzono]Pay the man the the fifty cent tip ! Lose the battle, win the war.[/QUOTE]

I don't know. Most times it's not a problem. But sometimes it's just too ridiculous for my conscience to accept.

For example, one time in north Jakarta, there was a time when there were no taxis, so we walked far away from the bar area looking for a taxi (we probably walked for 10 minutes) and a "parking" guy followed us the entire time trying to sell us drugs. We told the guy about 20 times to stop following us because we were not going to buy any drugs from him, but he was persistent and kept following us asking us over and over to buy drugs from him. We finally reached the main road (Hayam Waruk) and waived a blue bird taxi down. When the taxi stopped to pick us up, the drug dealer/parking guy asked us for a tip. We asked him "a tip for what? for bugging us the entire long walk to the main road trying to sell us drugs? no thanks". Then he said he wanted 10,000 rupiah "parking money". We told him we weren't about to give him parking money for a taxi from the main road that we flagged down ourselves. He then started pounding on the top of the taxi screaming for parking money. The taxi driver would not drive away, so we got out and asked the guy what his problem was and told him he didn't have the right to any money from us or from that taxi driver. The guy was only about 5 feet tall and probably weighed less than 60kg, but the taxi driver was terrified and gave the guy the 10k rupiah. In no way did that loser deserve any money at all. We ended up giving the taxi 10k over the meter at the end of the ride, but the principle of the taxi driver giving that guy money still bugs me to this day.

Another example is when my own driver was with me at an electronics shop in north Jakarta. He came into the shop with me. As we were walking out, my driver saw a car about to leave and there were no "parking" guys in the area so he ran up to the car and asked for parking money. And the car gave it to him! What the hell? I told my driver I thought that was unethical and if he ever did it again I'd find a new driver. His reply was "money parking" and he looked at me as if it wasn't a problem. But I asked him again to never ask anyone for parking money while he's driving me around. We then backed out and left without paying any parking since there was nobody around to ask for it.

There was another time when I was buying something inside a shop on a side street and there were no cars or people at all in the street other than my car and one other. Another car came driving down the street and blew a tire. The guy got out to change the tire and when the other car besides mine went to leave, the guy got up from changing his tire, walked over to the car as it was leaving, and asked for parking money. He then finished changing his tire and left.

Excellent stories Smoothy. They made me smile. The lack of ethics, conscience and morals is so mind blowing, if you don't smile, you will have a coronary.

TII

[QUOTE=Smoothy]
Another example is when my own driver was with me at an electronics shop in north Jakarta. He came into the shop with me. As we were walking out, my driver saw a car about to leave and there were no "parking" guys in the area so he ran up to the car and asked for parking money. And the car gave it to him! What the hell? I told my driver I thought that was unethical and if he ever did it again I'd find a new driver. His reply was "money parking" and he looked at me as if it wasn't a problem. But I asked him again to never ask anyone for parking money while he's driving me around. We then backed out and left without paying any parking since there was nobody around to ask for it.
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Smoothy, you should have charged your driver for parking. Maybe the message would have been sent.

For all who responded whether I should pay or not pay the bogus parking fee even when not on the street where the bars are like Top Gun. I did pay the stupid fee, but I don't give 5k like you guys. I have only given 2k over so many years and still do so without incident. But of course if you've been giving 5k, it's probably known and that's your price. It's still a crock but I do realize that's how it works.

[QUOTE=Rival]Blok M:

LT is 400-500K
Remember: its Blok M, not CJs or BATS.

300K is a shitload of money for an average young woman in Jakarta.
Never take a taxi parked in the street in front of the bars.

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Absolutely agree, not only that the taxis parked in the street charge rediculous prices, but some are also technically rather unsafe. Order a Blue Bird at the bar, give 2000 to the parking guy and 5000 to the security guy of the bar that warns you when the taxi has arrived and you will alway have a good treatment in the future.

I have been a couple of times in Jkt and payed 500 000 LT for a single night with a Blok M lady, which was fine with me. Next time I plan to have one of the girls stay with me for a longer time, say five days. What is the custom about the fee, 5 x 500k ?

NO

[QUOTE=Key Master] I did pay the stupid fee, but I don't give 5k like you guys. I have only given 2k over so many years and still do so without incident. [/QUOTE]

I also only give 2k to the "parking" dudes in Blok M.

To Smoothy and other members Hello, Hanging out more in Europe at present but still have fond memories of past trips to Jakarta. Just surfing the web here out of curiosity (or for old times sake) and have just read with interest a few of those bad taxi reports.

Here's part of a posting I did a few years back on the same subject on another site which I have just dug up. Forget the prices, but apparantly the same, same shit happens.

Nuisance Taxi drivers

Went everywhere by taxi day and night and only encountered ass holes trying to intimidate me and rip me off when I was in the company of girls I had picked up from any bar away from the usual 4 or 5 star hotel venues.

This only happens at night of course and don't expect any help or support from the girls with you.

My worst experience was coming out of the Night Club at the Hotel Menteng 2, central Jakarta. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] take 1) Some scruffy bastard outside wanted me to pay him 100k rupiah so the girl could have her handbag back from behind some counter where she had already paid and left it for safe keeping. This I ignored.

[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] take 2) Ushered into taxi and Taxi driver would not speak to me or drive away until I paid the usher a parking fee. At this point the girl gave the usher some money.

[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] Take 2 to high stress level 3) Driver asks for 100 K Rupiah, about 5 times the normal going rate to take us back to the hotel. I say 'No' then we try to get out of the taxi but can't because he locked the doors. Driver gets aggressive and drives off like a mad man with us locked in the back. Where the fuck is he taking us? I thought while nearly crapping myself.

Higher stress 4 almost to breaking point) Then while he is breaking every traffic violation you can think of while trying to kill us all at the same time I try and reason with him and manage to bring his bull shit greedy fare down to half of what he asked for.

The love of my life for that day just sits there like some dumbo and doesn't open her mouth once. Thank you. Where's the help when I need it most?

From being angry to being scared shirtless and then just feeling plainly humiliated, when we arrived at the hotel boy did I make him wait for his money! I think the bastard was told to move on twice while I took my time getting his money together inside the hotel.

Definitely had no problems using Blue bird and Silver Bird but it's not always possible as Smoothy pointed out.

One white colored taxi I used another time seriously stank of sick and made me too smell all night and another taxis meter I used was obviously fixed and I ended up paying three times the amount. It's the luck of the draw I'm afraid.

If you are using taxis a lot in Jakarta, and can be bothered, book a Blue Bird taxi by phone and "pay the extra dollar'' in way of an added supplement booking fee but by even doing that will not solve the ass holes on the streets laying in wait for people like us.

Or, don't be adventerous at all in Jakarta and just stick to the good tried and tested 5-star mongering places like BATS, CJS, Tiga Pulah or the Misture? At the Ritz carlton where there will always be a Blue or even better Siver Bird Taxi waiting outside. But for the Taxis, bad traffic and annoying Ramadan. What a damn good mongering place Jakarta is. Cheers __________________

[QUOTE=Smoothy]I don't know. Most times it's not a problem. But sometimes it's just too ridiculous for my conscience to accept.

For example, one time in north Jakarta, there was a time when there were no taxis, so we walked far away from the bar area looking for a taxi (we probably walked for 10 minutes) and a "parking" guy followed us the entire time trying to sell us drugs. We told the guy about 20 times to stop following us because we were not going to buy any drugs from him, but he was persistent and kept following us asking us over and over to buy drugs from him. We finally reached the main road (Hayam Waruk) and waived a blue bird taxi down. When the taxi stopped to pick us up, the drug dealer/parking guy asked us for a tip. We asked him "a tip for what? For bugging us the entire long walk to the main road trying to sell us drugs? No thanks". Then he said he wanted 10, 000 rupiah "parking money". We told him we weren't about to give him parking money for a taxi from the main road that we flagged down ourselves. He then started pounding on the top of the taxi screaming for parking money. The taxi driver would not drive away, so we got out and asked the guy what his problem was and told him he didn't have the right to any money from us or from that taxi driver. The guy was only about 5 feet tall and probably weighed less than 60kg, but the taxi driver was terrified and gave the guy the 10k rupiah. In no way did that loser deserve any money at all. We ended up giving the taxi 10k over the meter at the end of the ride, but the principle of the taxi driver giving that guy money still bugs me to this day.

Another example is when my own driver was with me at an electronics shop in north Jakarta. He came into the shop with me. As we were walking out, my driver saw a car about to leave and there were no "parking" guys in the area so he ran up to the car and asked for parking money. And the car gave it to him! What the hell? I told my driver I thought that was unethical and if he ever did it again I'd find a new driver. His reply was "money parking" and he looked at me as if it wasn't a problem. But I asked him again to never ask anyone for parking money while he's driving me around. We then backed out and left without paying any parking since there was nobody around to ask for it.

There was another time when I was buying something inside a shop on a side street and there were no cars or people at all in the street other than my car and one other. Another car came driving down the street and blew a tire. The guy got out to change the tire and when the other car besides mine went to leave, the guy got up from changing his tire, walked over to the car as it was leaving, and asked for parking money. He then finished changing his tire and left.[/QUOTE]

Gents.,

In response to your earlier reports, my post follows. (This, by the way, is my virgin post to ISG. I'm losing my virginity right now).

It sounds like what was at work in the nasty-taxi posts was the force of Jakarta gang life and 'premanism. ' Going back to the 1940s, Indonesian cities have been informally organized along gang lines; the Indonesian security forces. Police and military. Have actually embraced the criminal gangs as a way of controlling them.

If you ask me (at over 10 years in Jakarta), the only reason a taxi driver would be scared of a scrawny, under-60 kg guy selling drugs and asking for tips was the fear the seller was a 'Preman, ' or petty gangster. Such preman are the footsoldiers of the criminal gangs sponsored once by military officials moonlighting, and in the 'reformasi' era, by local police chief. The police have done well out of democracy.

It's not really a matter of who deserves what. How many ISG members 'deserve' a $50 tryst with a 21 year-old woman? It's a matter of what you can get away with.

Now, yes, many say it's corrupt and evil that the police collaborate with organized crime. But the arrangement is one reason the sex trade isn't more violent than it is in Indonesia.

As for dealing with Preman: they're often scrawny losers with no authority and can be safely ignored. Taxi drivers may not know the area such preman are working in and are playing it safe because they may be held liable for damage done to their vehicles, depending on the company. Cheaper to stump up Rp. 10, 000 than deal with a Rp. 100, 000 scratch.

But sex for sale has a price; violence has a price; everything has a price. Premanism, organized crime, and the cops or military is just a reality in Indonesia. Ignore it if you like, but there was that famous quote, "I struggled with reality for 50 years, and I finally overcame it."

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[QUOTE=Longhardlook]
The love of my life for that day just sits there like some dumbo and doesn't open her mouth once. Thank you. Where's the help when I need it most?
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I think it's obvious why the girl didn't do anything. She has to return there (alone) sooner or later and doesn't want to bear the SOB's wrath.

Some more thoughts.

On the nuisance taxis and preman:

Collusion is very common. The shitty taxi companies (you'll know them when you see them) often employ desperadoes. Their owners are sleazy semi-criminal businessmen who cut every corner to make a buck. Other than bluebird, ok companies are Express, Koperasi (green and orange), Dian, (blue and white), and Jakarta City. Blue Bird is still the best.

On the preman: the reason they can be skinny and malnourished but scary is they usually carry knives, work in groups, and have nothing to lose. They don't 'fight' as in square off and engage in some Marquis of Queensbury fisticuffs, they slash, stab, and run, or call all their friends. Going to jail isn't that big a problem: many of them, especially the ones clothed in tatoos, have done time already.

Bules and foreigners are usually given a longer leash than locals. Bules usually don't understand the deal and aren't worth the energy and likely confrontation. But if pushed, the knife may well come out. Bules have been stabbed in Blok M, for example. The Preman are often sad, broken, and of course stupid and uneducated. Stabbing someone may have got them into the game in the first place. Trust me, you don't want a blood transfusion at an Indonesian hospital. Any hospital.

So the Rp, 2, 000, or even Rp. 10, 000 parking money paid to the Preman is a cheap deal, really. It's an institutionalized form of extortion, of course, but given what they are, the Preman are surprisingly well-behaved most of the time.

The 'Ayams' as the working girls are known locally, in places like Jl. Felatehan know all about Preman. They usually provide the muscle and security. Even if they do a bad job. At Blok M. Professional hookers (as opposed to Indonesia's enthusiastic amateurs), may pay 50 % or more of their takings to the pimp. It's the parastic pimps and Preman that help to create that dead-in-the-eyes look of women who've been on the game too long.

If you're into ethical mongering, it's worth thinking about the shady world of Preman and their police and military backers. You may want to boil with rage at the injustice. As I used to. But it won't make the arrangement go away. In fact, as Indonesia's cities get bigger, and the police get more powerful, premanism is probably going to grow.

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Haven't contributed in a while, so thought I would try to give some practical advice.

It is normal to pay parking attendants 1-2K for their services. Indeed, these are 'preman' (gangsters), who work in collusion with the police. They are part of the same system that delivers young girls to you in the bars in Blok M and Kota, so it hardly seems reasonable to complain. Just pay, preferably with a smile. That's the Indonesian way.

Regarding taxis: if you can't speak Indonesian, use a bluebird or silverbird whenever possible. Otherwise, try saying: "tolong (please) pakai (use) argo (the meter), mas (brother)". Or you can just say 'argo' and the driver will understand what you mean. If you are ignored, just say the universally understood 'STOP' get out and find another taxi. If you want to be fancy, say 'berhenti', but 'stop' will work just fine.

Never, ever, lose your cool. Stay calm, smile, and speak Indonesian as best you can. "Macho" in Indonesia translates into relentless self control. Getting mad in the presence of a girl (even a kampung "ayam"-who almost always are supporting their families with their earnings) is most definitely low class. Remember to smile, even if insincerely, and trouble will rarely find you here.

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Based on recent positive revievs about Tropical Spa close to ITC Roxy Mas, I and few friends when there to sample the menu.

Each to his own, but for me this was a miss. Quoted 500 k for ML. This form a 27 y o spinner with bad skin, and a bit too distanced for my liking. She did give a solid strong oil massage. Compared to Classic, Marioboro, etc this is bad value for money. Opted to pull out (pun intended), and save myself for the evening instead.

Staff was friendly, price levels for massage very reasonable. But price/performance not up to par with competition.

Most of the parking guys in Jl Palatehan are the Blue Shirted ones. They are, by and large fair enough and reasonable. They will look for a park for you, change your tyre or organize a push if the battery is flat, all for a fee of course. But they have memories and they are there every night, sometimes with their girls working the bars as has been pointed out. There is one "preman" who does not wear blue whom has the patch outside Mybar after about 11 pm. He can be a little bit offensive but still takes his 5 thousand and guides the car out. Its just part of the micro economy of the street. My only satisfaction with him is telling him to guide the car out before he gets his money. He does it with a smile now, but his initial approach is full of puffed up menace. Its my choice if I go there and if I choose to do so I go with flow. One more thing about taxis, Bluebird have a "budget" range called Gamya. Green cars, very clean, late model and courteous drivers. Cheaper from the airport than a Bluebird.

Can you tell me if it is possible to reach Block M walking from Travel Hotel?
How far is it?
Thank you!

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Can you tell me if it is possible to reach Block M walking from Travel Hotel?
How far is it?
Thank you![/QUOTE]

Probably about 10-15km. Completely different parts of town. Travel Hotel is Kota in the north, Blok M is south of the border ...

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]Probably about 10-15km. Completely different parts of town. Travel Hotel is Kota in the north, Blok M is south of the border ...[/QUOTE]

I thanks you! mmmmmmmm I don't know if to say at Kota or Block M.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]I thanks you! mmmmmmmm I don't know if to say at Kota or Block M.[/QUOTE]

Just stay in the middle. Couple of nice GF hotels (Crown Plaza, Ibis, Sari Pan, Le Meridien and many others). 40K (= Eu 3,-) taxi each way.....

NO

[QUOTE=Non Olet]Just stay in the middle. Couple of nice GF hotels (Crown Plaza, Ibis, Sari Pan, Le Meridien and many others). 40K (= Eu 3,-) taxi each way.....
NO[/QUOTE]

Thanks, thanks fot your suggestion but ... mmmmmm I like to stay where the action is. Therefore I have to choose betwen Kota and Block M. I will have one week only and I'm faced by a nasty dilemma. ;) ;)

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Thanks, thanks fot your suggestion but ... mmmmmm I like to stay where the action is. Therefore I have to choose betwen Kota and Block M. I will have one week only and I'm faced by a nasty dilemma. ;) ;)[/QUOTE]
So why don't you do some RTFF and read the last 3 or 4 pages of the Jakarta-Hotels thread?

You seem to make a habit of asking these kind of silly questions in ISG.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Thanks, thanks fot your suggestion but ... mmmmmm I like to stay where the action is. Therefore I have to choose betwen Kota and Block M. I will have one week only and I'm faced by a nasty dilemma. ;) ;)[/QUOTE]


Then stay the first half in Blok M and the second half in Kota. You have some gorgeous places in Kota such as Beverly Hills, the Suncity luxury club, Alexis towards Ancol and also on the cheaper side Hotel Travel. None of the blok M places would match the classy style and looks apart from the performance of the Kota top end club/spa girls. You also have Club 36 out there. So start slowly in blok M where you get the ordinary stuff before moving towards the heavenly abode of Kota. But please remember, that except for Beverly Hills which could cost around 500K and Travel which could be around 300K, all others are top end. Especially Sun City and you get the Multinational stuff at ALexis. And the girls are also of top class. And their performance is also top class.

Or just stay 3 days in one area, and 4 in the other. It's not that hard. In my recent trip, I stayed in three different hotels, but switched a total of 6 times.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Can you tell me if it is possible to reach Block M walking from Travel Hotel?

How far is it?

Thank you![/QUOTE]FOX,

It is too far to walk just take the taxi about 20 min about 3 usd cheap ,if you don't get rip off that is.

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=John Aldrich]Then stay the first half in Blok M and the second half in Kota. You have some gorgeous places in Kota such as Beverly Hills, the Suncity luxury club, Alexis towards Ancol and also on the cheaper side Hotel Travel. None of the blok M places would match the classy style and looks apart from the performance of the Kota top end club/spa girls. You also have Club 36 out there. So start slowly in blok M where you get the ordinary stuff before moving towards the heavenly abode of Kota. But please remember, that except for Beverly Hills which could cost around 500K and Travel which could be around 300K, all others are top end. Especially Sun City and you get the Multinational stuff at ALexis. And the girls are also of top class. And their performance is also top class.[/QUOTE]Suncity i never been to that place is it the same as Alexis that you can choose the girl from the lounge and then go downstairs to the rooms and what are the prices?

[QUOTE=Blacka0]Suncity i never been to that place is it the same as Alexis that you can choose the girl from the lounge and then go downstairs to the rooms and what are the prices?[/QUOTE]
17 reports and most of them questions in the recent ones. I thought you were the type who queries around. But as I scrolled down I found some early reports, though very few. It was good of you of having shared your experience. To get a detailed dope about the place, here is the website

[url]http://www.suncityjakarta.com/[/url]

Visit he place and have fun.

Cheers

I am just leaving Jakarta after a two nights and one day and here are my impressions.

First of all in a previous post someone made a google map including many of the major venues. It was very helpful and here is the link:

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=102991539659694156007.00046711a0669dc69cd4b&ll=-6.175713,106.7696&spn=0.148479,0.219727&z=12[/url]

I suggest printing out blow ups of various sections.

First night went to Top Gun which is inside the Block M complex. Took a taxi there, wandered around unable to find it and finally paid a cab driver 20,000 rupia ($2) to take me there. That saved me another 30 minutes of wandering around looking for it I'm sure.

Entered Top Gun and found a heaven of cute LBFM's dieing to have you take them home with you. I would say 80% of them were 9's in my book and I am fairly picky. Some I am sure were no older than 15 so check their ID's.

I decided to check out BATS which a guy I chatted with said it is a more "sophisticated crowd". As I was waiting for a cab outside a stunningly beautiful gal came out, and within one minute I decided why bother with another cab ride to another club when I have someone right here to cater to my needs.

Turns out she was 32, (could pass for 20), had a 5 year old kid, blah, blah. She later confirmed that some of the girls at Top Gun were as young as 15 so it wasn't just my opinion. She told me sending her kid to school costs 400K a month and that doesn't count supplies. She works in a salon washing hair during the day. Jesus, makes you appreciate civilization and the concept of public schools. Anyways we had a hour and a half of fun and I paid for her kids next 6 weeks of tuition.

Next day went to check out Lokasari Plaza where TC or Today Country is located. The plaza and TC has been extolled as a great place to find freelancers. Also 10 minutes away is the Hotel Travel which I wanted to check out.Got to TC around 3:30PM. Nothing happening and was told to come back at 5PM.

Went to Hotel Travel (again took a cab for a $1 ride to avoid taking an hour to find something that was a 10 minute walk). Entrance to the spa is on the left side. Search Hotel Travel in this forum to get more details. All I can say is that the quality was high, I was having a hard time trying to decide which hot 20 yo I was going to choose when a mamasan called one of her girls to close the deal. I was thinking that I wanted to look some more but this gal was as good as any of the young hotties so I figured to take the path of least resistance. Charge is 300K and tipped the girl 100K for an hour of pleasure.

Went back to Lokasari Plaza. TC is so dark you can't see much and there is a cover so I decided to pass however the girls going in and wandering around outside looked well worn unlike the fresh perky gals at Top Gun. Wasn't all that impressed but would check it out again if I was in the area after 5PM.

That night went to Bats at the Shangra La hotel. Everyone says this is where the best looking women are and they charge top dollar ($100 plus) but man what a disappointment. Mainly older saggy unattractive gals. Maybe a handful of the 100 gals there would merit consideration, the rest were not worth looking at. There is a 110K cover (which buys you a well drink) and a chance to see all the women you don't want to see.

I'll be passing through here on my way back home and will grab some 20 yo hottie at Top Gun for my last night.

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[QUOTE=Mantid]I would say 80% of them were 9's in my book and I am fairly picky. [/QUOTE]

Alcohol is a wonderful thing.

[QUOTE=Mantid]

Jesus, makes you appreciate civilization and the concept of public schools. Anyways we had a hour and a half of fun and I paid for her kids next 6 weeks of tuition.

[/QUOTE]

An interesting philosophical point, I pay no tax here in Indonesia but I also pay 400k per month for my kid's school fees.

Back home my tax bill was topping 50% while the government fire-hosed eleventy squadrillion billion pounds annually at the health, education and welfare departments, all so that people could receive "free" public services. Of course the net result of that is whole generations of people, none of whom have ever done any work, "benefitting" from filthy hospitals where they join waiting lists to get on the waiting lists and a school system which turns out functional illiterates and where the only skill the teachers seem capable of imparting is how to put on a condom (a skill most of the pupils forget shortly after their twelfth birthday).

Here in Indonesia I get to choose which school my kid goes to, what they are taught while they are there, and even which teacher teaches them, the hospitals which charge me a fraction of my tax bill provide a superb service in spotlessly clean wards with doctors who see me when I ask them. I also get to choose which particular hard luck story in society to help out with financial assistance rather than have a Red Army sized bureaucracy forcibly remove a massive whack of my earnings on pain of jail time in order to shovel it willy-nilly at every loser and dead beat with a permanent hand out.

I know which "civilised" society I prefer.

Incidentally there is free basic education for all children in Indonesia. If your lady friend is paying 400k a month she has opted to send her son to a fairly decent private school (cheap here aren't they?). For some perspective, Shangri La is among the top five hotels in Jakarta, BATS' customers are well-heeled locals, wealthy ex-pats and rich foreign businessmen, my guess is that in a similar bar in New York or London or Los Angeles you'd also meet glamorous looking thirty-something women who also work as "beauticians/stylists/whatever" and who also are there to earn money to pay their kids' school fees.

How much would such women cost you for a night of romance? I'm guessing about six weeks tuition fees, would I be in the right ball park do you think?

Changes in latitudes but the attitudes are pretty much the same the world over.

[QUOTE=Dorman] I also get to choose which particular hard luck story in society to help out with financial assistance rather than have a Red Army sized bureaucracy forcibly remove a massive whack of my earnings on pain of jail time in order to shovel it willy-nilly at every loser and dead beat with a permanent hand out.[/QUOTE]Let em eat cake, eh Dorman? Maggie would be proud of you - so would Milton Friedman. Why I'll bet you're even spoiled for choice when it comes to which little beggar can shine your shoes..not back in ol blighty where you'd be walking the streets with holes in your soles and that big chip on your shoulder weighing you down.

Another work week in Jakarta, but managed to fit in some fun worth reporting.

Two visits to CJ's seeing as I was staying in the Mulia. Tuesday night was a sausage fest - far more men than women, although a number of the women were brought in as dates. A smattering of freelancers, mostly hanging around the inner bar seeing as the music was too loud for them. New band from all over and they were pretty good, but I would agree on the volume. Stayed until 10:30 or 11:00 but the sausage fest was not for me.

The second night in there (Thursday, got there later and pretty much nothing going on. Did a lap and left without getting a drink.

Two trips to Travel Hotel - two girls each trip. First one each time was spectacular and great service. Second one each trip was a big step down in service, and one in looks. Stay away from Effi in the first group on the left, but grab Nia if you can - just fantastic. I would have done a third girl each time if the second rounds were anywhere near the first.

Stopped into Today Country on Friday late afternoon and absolutely nothing going on there - 3,000 cover but flipped my bottle of water into the bin and did not even crack the seal. Really slim pickings.

Usual damage 2 X 300 each time plus a tip.

[QUOTE=RonnieMonger]Let em eat cake, eh Dorman? Maggie would be proud of you - so would Milton Friedman. Why I'll bet you're even spoiled for choice when it comes to which little beggar can shine your shoes..not back in ol blighty where you'd be walking the streets with holes in your soles and that big chip on your shoulder weighing you down.[/QUOTE]

There's nothing more amusing than a regular user of a website dedicated to prostitution getting all sanctimonious and moralistic, very funny, very funny indeed.

Irony isn't something your pembantu uses to tidy up your shirt before you go on the prowl for cheap sex you know Ronnie.

Great post Dorman -- the philosophical one about 5 posts down in this thread.

[QUOTE=Dorman]An interesting philosophical point, I pay no tax here in Indonesia but I also pay 400k per month for my kid's school fees.

Back home my tax bill was topping 50% while the government fire-hosed eleventy squadrillion billion pounds annually at the health, education and welfare departments, all so that people could receive "free" public services. Of course the net result of that is whole generations of people, none of whom have ever done any work, "benefitting" from filthy hospitals where they join waiting lists to get on the waiting lists and a school system which turns out functional illiterates and where the only skill the teachers seem capable of imparting is how to put on a condom (a skill most of the pupils forget shortly after their twelfth birthday).

Here in Indonesia I get to choose which school my kid goes to, what they are taught while they are there, and even which teacher teaches them, the hospitals which charge me a fraction of my tax bill provide a superb service in spotlessly clean wards with doctors who see me when I ask them. I also get to choose which particular hard luck story in society to help out with financial assistance rather than have a Red Army sized bureaucracy forcibly remove a massive whack of my earnings on pain of jail time in order to shovel it willy-nilly at every loser and dead beat with a permanent hand out.

I know which "civilised" society I prefer.

Incidentally there is free basic education for all children in Indonesia. If your lady friend is paying 400k a month she has opted to send her son to a fairly decent private school (cheap here aren't they?). For some perspective, Shangri La is among the top five hotels in Jakarta, BATS' customers are well-heeled locals, wealthy ex-pats and rich foreign businessmen, my guess is that in a similar bar in New York or London or Los Angeles you'd also meet glamorous looking thirty-something women who also work as "beauticians/stylists/whatever" and who also are there to earn money to pay their kids' school fees.

How much would such women cost you for a night of romance? I'm guessing about six weeks tuition fees, would I be in the right ball park do you think?

Changes in latitudes but the attitudes are pretty much the same the world over.[/QUOTE]I've been an expat for the past 30 years, and have no intention of ever living and working in UK again. I hold the passport, watch the EPL, follow the English cricket team but as for the politicos, the Health and Safety crap that has blighted the country, the immgration that is causing cultural friction, the " don't say that you might offend them" mentality,. Its a case of Broken Britain. A once proud country decimated by know nothings and do nothings.

My kids have received a vastly superior education in the international schools they have attended worldwide, and the medical attention in HK, Singapore, Manila, BKK vastly superior to the long lines and careless attention that my parents receive in UK

UK lost its shine long ago and I for one am very glad I decamped and stopped paying high tax for low performance.

Checked out no. 75 Taman Sari again last night , as usual door tight like Indon pussy ! a few knocks on the gate and wa laa... open sesame .. walked into the main living hall and the baksos were all lining up for your pre-view ! A few nice baksos but i'm into a bit of GFE , i chose Nenty ! She was the one that I booked the last time . Paid the 600 K plus tips to the doorman and off we go to my hotel Astika. Procedurally, even how close your hotel may be , sorry .. you must go on a taxi . .. paid 10K for that stupid short trip .. ripped off by the taxi driver .. ( no change .. it seemed .. I didn't want to make a commotion ! .

anyone checked out No 68 before ? Maybe the next time ..

Well back to Nenty ! Once the door's closed .. all hell broke loose. She was already struttin naked from the time she was in the room until the next morning before I kicked her out .. and service was great .. compassionate deep kisses and 3 rounds of pumping .. and many proposals of marriage form her ! hahaha .. she will say .. " mari nikah " .. that's that escape route for a better life... i guess ! ... I don;t think i can go back to no. 75 again , or else she will be "cemburu" ( jealous ) like hell if I chose another cewek. So , next time, it wil have to be no. 68

as I write now , am thinking what to do tonight ! .. Travels or Kartika . ?? Time will tell . follow the instinct ! .. or just CJ, down the road for me ??

[QUOTE=Xerus]Checked out no. 75 Taman Sari again last night, as usual door tight like Indon pussy! A few knocks on the gate and wa laa. Open sesame. Walked into the main living hall and the baksos were all lining up for your pre-view! A few nice baksos but I'm into a bit of GFE, I chose Nenty! She was the one that I booked the last time. Paid the 600 K plus tips to the doorman and off we go to my hotel Astika. Procedurally, even how close your hotel may be, sorry. You must go on a taxi. Paid 10K for that stupid short trip. Ripped off by the taxi driver. (no change. It seemed. I didn't want to make a commotion!.

Anyone checked out No 68 before? Maybe the next time.

Well back to Nenty! Once the door's closed. All hell broke loose. She was already struttin naked from the time she was in the room until the next morning before I kicked her out. And service was great. Compassionate deep kisses and 3 rounds of pumping. And many proposals of marriage form her! Hahaha. She will say. " mari nikah ". That's that escape route for a better life. I guess!. I don; t think I can go back to no. 75 again, or else she will be "cemburu" (jealous) like hell if I chose another cewek. So, next time, it wil have to be no. 68

As I write now, am thinking what to do tonight!. Travels or Kartika? Time will tell. Follow the instinct!. Or just CJ, down the road for me?[/QUOTE]




To xerus

I try to find this place few month ago I know is near hotel travel, this is a broading house / brothel is there alot of girl, I heard you can get LT for 400k
And the girl are very young, can you give me good instruction to get to this place from hotel travel.





Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To xerus

I try to find this place few month ago I know is near hotel travel, this is a broading house / brothel is there alot of girl, I heard you can get LT for 400k
And the girl are very young, can you give me good instruction to get to this place from hotel travel.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

I doubt you can get 400K at TS 75!

[quote=fast eddie 48]to xerus

i try to find this place few month ago i know is near hotel travel, this is a broading house / brothel is there alot of girl, i heard you can get lt for 400k
and the girl are very young, can you give me good instruction to get to this place from hotel travel.





fast eddie 48[/quote]

eddie, kl guy is right ..no way u are getting 400 k ! even if you look like brad pitt . i think it's controlled price at 600k , or 250 k for short time of 1 - 3 hours . even then , the price applies for bookings after 7.00 pm. i may be wrong !

anyway as for the direction of hse 75, as you coming from the main road of mangga besar approaching travel's hotel, abt 50 meters from travels, there's a left turning , take that road and u will reach a t junction . turn right and walk down for about 200 m till u reach a budget hotel on the right side of the road. no. 75 should be two shops away down the road from the budget hotel .

pm me if you need the no. of the pepee unyil , if they aren't opening for u .

by the way, a taxi driver offered me a while ago for models st going for 450k and state location taman sari. ok . , now i know it's bull story .. models my ass ! st should be the range of 250 k to 300 k .

cheers .

Jakarta 6 Feb, 2010

Had to do an emergency business trip back to the Big Durian. Work kept me busy all weekday nights, but finally on Saturday I manged to escape for some R&R. A fairly new place called King Cross in Kelapa Gading has gotten a lot of good reports in local web forums, so I decided to try it out.

K C is an upscale one stop entertainment place, but without spa facilities. It is located on Jl Bulevar Bukit Gading Raya [url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Jl+Bulevar+Bukit+Gading+Raya&sll=-6.158027,106.89472&sspn=0.005312,0.006791&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Jalan+Bulevar+Bukit+Gading+Raya,+Jakarta,+Indonesia&ll=-6.162913,106.89208&spn=0.022315,0.027165&z=15&iwloc=A[/url] (look for MTR 2 Club on the map, it's in the same blok)

Exact address is Komplek KOKAN Permata Kelapa Gading Blok C no. 9-12A, but just look for Delta Spa/King Cross/Sumo Shiatsu Spa signs cos all of them are in the same area.

Arrived around 2 p m. First the check-in reception. Then into the ground floor biljard room. There is a nightclub with strippers on the 3rd floor. Open from 8.30 p m to 3 a m. According to other reports it suppose to be wild. The afternoon selection of girls consisted of five cewek in pink uniforms. All young and at least three of them fitted with a C-rack. These are the body massage girls. Each equipped with a tag stating BM and number.

Settled for Miss D, BM315, with a D chest. 20 y o Jakarta girl. Then continued to the 2nd floor where the "hotel rooms" are. Everything looked new and fresh. Room equipped with bed, shower cabin, AC and mirrored walls. Quite nicely done. SOP followed with shower with mutual soaping, and I had to focus not to stare too much at that killer set of tits.

Naked on the bed I gently directed her to give me a cat-bath in the scrotum area. She liked those balls like her life depended on it, whilst gently massaging my arse. This turned in to a full frontal cat-bath with me playing with those amazing tits. All the time she maintained perfect eye contact, which I find makes the whole experience so much more pleasurable.

"Mau masukin?" (do you want to enter me?). Didn't need to much convincing, and so the cap went on. She did cowgirl and all the time made sure my hands was securely attached to her boobs (to prevent them from giving me an accidental concussion I guess - safety first!). Her riding skills was top notch and she took me all the way to heaven and back.

DC: 345 000 Rp for massage/water bottle + 50 000 Rp tip

Good value for money in my book. Flied out of Jakarta the same evening with a big smile and feeling very relaxed. Can't wait to get back again.

Good report and sounds like an interesting place for my next visit. You were in Jakarta the same week as I was, also for business.

Coming from Thailand, the overwhelming thing about Indonesia is the fine full tits. Although there are some to be found here, the "no tits" or "near-no tits" phenomenon is all too common.

I was in Travel Hotel and had 3 sets of magnificent tits out of the four girls I took there. It was wonderful.

Again, thanks for the report and sounds like a good stop on my next visit

[QUOTE=Dorman]There's nothing more amusing than a regular user of a website dedicated to prostitution getting all sanctimonious and moralistic, very funny, very funny indeed.

Irony isn't something your pembantu uses to tidy up your shirt before you go on the prowl for cheap sex you know Ronnie.[/QUOTE]First off, paying to fuck someone who's making more money than a bank manager every day (night) is far from being sanctimonious when I compare that to your snivel about state-run health care that looks after your parents and mine for pennies on the pound each day mate.

So your comparison escapes me. If you wanna be Maggie Thatcher and tell the entire country to fuck off then up to you.

But you're right about one thing - this is a mongering site (even rhymes)

So let's get back to it.

So having RTFF and having offered advice on other places, I humbly ask the following to brothers in JKT:

It seems 300,000 is the going rate for ST. How long do you get and how many pops on average? Is it accepted that (like Thailand for example) you will get 3 hours and two pops? Or is she out the door the minute the cap comes off?

Makes a big difference in deciding ST or LT. Again I RTFF didn't see this specifically.

Finally - othes have asked this here and on that Blok M site, but what is actually better? Blok M (Long Gun etc) or the other places in the north? Last time I was at Blok M it was dead, dead, dead - but that was like 10 pm so maybe too early. I have seen othes who say the place sucks anytime. What's true?

Ronnie, you were there a bit early. I've noticed it also. Its like that at the bars across the street also. It picks up by 11pm.

ST. 300K. The girls will often ask for 500 or more in the bar. Just hold up 3 fingers; she'll take it. 300K is a weeks wages in jakarta.

As to time. It is one of the things on my laundry list. Run thru your laundry list with her in the bar (not in the taxi, or in your room, its too late then). This is not for everyone. Some gents are happy just grabbing her and heading off to the room. If you do that, you 'get what you get', not necessarily what you wanted. For instance, one girl gives you 2-3-4 hours in your room, multiple pops, and does not ask for a tip (nice!). Another girl gives you one pop, asks for a tip, and is out the door in 30 minutes. You agreed to the same amount in the bar... but what a difference in product you received. For some gents, the laundry list discussed ahead of time is not romantic.

My list includes:

* ST = 3 hours in room
* Pops = all i want (rarely do I have more than one, but she must be willing)
* Camera, pics
* Condom up to me
* Naughty stuff that I like

The girls nod their head yes to each one of these. 8 girls out of 10 will hit on these. The only one that ever gets a pass from a girl is the naughty stuff. Some girls just don't do a particular thing on my naughty stuff list. That's fine, the next one will.

BTW, I dont tip unless the girl was exceptional, or has provided freebie in the past.

Oops I forgot, add to that:

* No txting once in the room. This is a major problem in filipines, not so much in jakarta. Still, its annoying.

I live in KL and have regualr trips to JKTA where I usually have 3 in 4 days or ocassionally 4 in 4. This is a combo of DIA ladies, Tagged and old but regualr fuckbuddies.

My Next trip not for another 5 weeks. So wasnt even thinking about starting the planning for a few weeks yet.

However, I met a lady from Jakarta last week who was in KL, but only met her as she was leaving to go to airport. We chatted in a Coffee Bean for 30 minutes.

Today she sends me sms and YM messages. Saying she knows I probably have " a list" of ladies to see, but could I please reserve one night for her.

Well I love that kind of girl. She understands that I want multiple meetings and is ok with it. And probably also understands that by night 2 I might be bored. We need more of these women!

Freebie, 3 cheers for this kind of girl!

Bad News = As of a few weeks ago, Indonesian immigration no longer issuing the US$10 7-day visa-on-demand. They are only issuing 30-day US$25 VOD. Crap. :(

Good News = I can afford it and there are still oh-so-many reasons to pay the extra. See pic for illustrative purposes! :)

Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain ;)

[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Bad News = As of a few weeks ago, Indonesian immigration no longer issuing the US$10 7-day visa-on-demand. They are only issuing 30-day US$25 VOD. Crap. :(

Good News = I can afford it and there are still oh-so-many reasons to pay the extra. See pic for illustrative purposes! :)

Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain ;)[/QUOTE]Wow! great looking girl.

Give me her number, I will check her when I am there.

Great Picture AR.
Cheers
Barek

[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Bad News = As of a few weeks ago, Indonesian immigration no longer issuing the US$10 7-day visa-on-demand. They are only issuing 30-day US$25 VOD. Crap. :(

Good News = I can afford it and there are still oh-so-many reasons to pay the extra. See pic for illustrative purposes! :)

Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain ;)[/QUOTE]Another way to make some more rip-off money.

Mind, the reason all this visa fee started was because a penny pinching British government started charging Indonesian visitors some years back. Now its spread.
The US$ 25 fees doesnt bother me, so much as the page they waste in the passport. If you travel a lot to China/Indonesia/Cambodia plus get work permit page updated yearly its no suprise that a 48 page passport may last 1 year.. in a good year.

[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Bad News = As of a few weeks ago, Indonesian immigration no longer issuing the US$10 7-day visa-on-demand. They are only issuing 30-day US$25 VOD. Crap. :(

[/QUOTE]

Well they have finally decided to allow the standard 30 Day VOA to be extended for another 30 days. You pay 25 USD again and need to go to the Immigration Office. Imagine the middlemen industry that will spring up over that palaver. The consequence of this is the dropping of the 7 Day Visa. Logic is a wonderful thing here in Indonesia.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Another way to make some more rip-off money.

Mind, the reason all this visa fee started was because a penny pinching British government started charging Indonesian visitors some years back. Now its spread.
The US$ 25 fees doesnt bother me, so much as the page they waste in the passport. If you travel a lot to China/Indonesia/Cambodia plus get work permit page updated yearly its no suprise that a 48 page passport may last 1 year.. in a good year.[/QUOTE]

Certainly agree with you there. It actually gave me a minor problem at BKK airport last year. The lady at imigration didn't like that they had 4 passport numbers registered on me in their system. But after 15 min I was let in to the country after having explained the fact to a smarter induvidual who also spoke better English.

Many of us (men AND women) use DIA as a means of hooking up with people of opposite gender but similar interests.

As its name implies its a place for "Dates" rather than " Living happily ever after. Com".

However many ladies regard it as a place to find Mr Right.

Was perusing the sadi site today when came across a lady who had posted a remarkable set of rules to be a contender. As follows:

Am here to meet my future husband and I have a few important rules that I follow:

1. No Pic / No Reply
2. Only good men need apply
3. Good looking as well
4. Stable in your career with an income to support us
5. Good education
6. Care and not cheap
7. Faithful & Responsible
8. Love me and love my family
9. You will not expect sex before marriage
10. Good sense of humor

And finally Not serious? Then do not contact me. Period.

Can you meet these qualifications?

And, do you have the commitment and determination to come to where I live in Jakarta?

Rule Number 9. Wow., haven't seen that written since the 18th century LOL.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Many of us (men AND women) use DIA as a means of hooking up with people of opposite gender but similar interests.

As its name implies its a place for "Dates" rather than " Living happily ever after. Com".

However many ladies regard it as a place to find Mr Right.

Was perusing the sadi site today when came across a lady who had posted a remarkable set of rules to be a contender. As follows:

Am here to meet my future husband and I have a few important rules that I follow:

1. No Pic / No Reply
2. Only good men need apply
3. Good looking as well
4. Stable in your career with an income to support us
5. Good education
6. Care and not cheap
7. Faithful & Responsible
8. Love me and love my family
9. You will not expect sex before marriage
10. Good sense of humor

And finally Not serious? Then do not contact me. Period.

Can you meet these qualifications?

And, do you have the commitment and determination to come to where I live in Jakarta?

Rule Number 9. Wow., haven't seen that written since the 18th century LOL.[/QUOTE]


She should move to Canada. It is only the needy, pussy whipped losers looking for a woman to dominate their lives who should answer this post. Thankfully, she represents a tiny portion of the women in Asia.

In Canada, she would have lots of like-minded women around her.

(Might be why I am in Asia, not frozen Canada!)

[QUOTE=Biz99]In Canada, she would have lots of like-minded women around her.[/quote]
I guess in Europe, US and Australia as well.
[quote]
(Might be why I am in Asia, not frozen Canada!)[/QUOTE]
Hehe, might be why I'm in Asia, not frozen Germany. :D :p

Cheers!

Last night I went to “King Cross”, a place that was recommended a few posts back (#4242).

It is worth the trip. The first floor is a restaurant cafe/bar with a stage. The second floor has massage which closes at 11PM which is when I got there. The third floor is a big bar with stage. I walked into the third floor and was greeted by five beautiful young Indonesian charmers with massive racks dancing topless on stage. I just stood and took it all in for five minutes. Wow! I guess management likes major cleavage and there it was, five pair of bouncing and jiggling mammaries on stage. Can't beat a nice rack on a little Asian gal. Better when there is a room full of them and they are all available.

There were about 40 or so girls circulating in the room. Most of them hot, some stunning, and most with noteworthy racks. Some had the fresh look of an 18 year old just starting out in the business. These were often paired up, holding hands, gossiping and giggling, offering each other support as the wolves, I mean customers, were checking them out. Others were a bit more experienced and their time here produced a nice slightly slutty look. The more I checked out the merchandise the more impressed I was. You will have no problem finding a quality girl here. A few were absolutely jaw dropping. Ah yes, nothing like a nice slender LBFT with a very ample rack to quicken the pulse.

Damage is 550,000 rupias ($60) for one hour of sex with the girl of your dreams upstairs, the same for 45 minutes of massage, and then a session of sex on the second floor with a massage girl . I tipped the girl 100,000.

I chose a lovely looking 20 y.o. Named Annie. Didn't speak much English so I decided not to waste an time with pleasantries and went immediately for the close. She provided a very nice bbbj, different positions of coitus, tongue massage, no dfk. Didn't try daty. Had the classic view of slender shoulders sporting a pair of well shaped verging on massive mamaries, tapering down to a nice slender waist then the lovely bulge at the hips. 42 Kilos of slender shapeliness viewed from all positions. Lovely. She was very sweet and hung out for a while after conjugating the verb with me.

By this time it was 12:30AM. Walked through the third floor again. Pretty much the same. The topless dancers were replaced by a live band. Went to the first floor which is pretty much like the third except you can order food. Girls were hanging out here, eating, taking a break, and customers were mingling. There is a stage and the topless dancers were now dancing here with the added charm of being bottomless. Some guy dressed in a slightly sleazy black suit and missing a front tooth (the type of charming procurer you would expect central casting to send here) started chatting. He was on the elevator earlier with me where we exchanged a few minor pleasantries. He saw me again here on the first floor and came by, very friendly, gave me his card (with 4 cell phone numbers...he was a bit proud of the fact he needed four phones) and said when I come back to town, call him anytime, 24 hours a day, and he can take care of me. The nice thing about Jakarta is you don't need anyone to take care of you.

Went back the next day for a massage. Talent O.K. But most girls had rice bowl bellies. Found a nice spinner for the “total” massage.

Next night went back in the evening. Found out that the dancers aren't available for sex. Although I did have one jump on my lap, squirm around and ask for a drink.

There us a google map with the location marked at [url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...65&z=15&iwloc=A[/url] .

Post 4242 has the address. I am posting some pictures of the signs on the street. There are several buildings perpendicular to the street with several clubs. The building you want has white neon going up to the top on the side facing the street. It is closest to the Delta sign (which was not illuminated one night so I didn't see it until I went back the next day). There is also a Delta sign on the main street you turn off of so if you see just one big Delta sign, you are close but not quite there. Turn immediately (left from the way I came) and the three signs as shown in my photos are half a block down.

Have fun. Good place to hang out for drinks, looking and finding a hottie for a good time.

Also posting some pics of various girls from King Cross and Travel Hotel. Both places have high quality to choose from. King Cross you can hang out and eventually decide who to pick. Hotel Travel will have the mamasans pushing someone on you. I could never make up my mind there were so many hotties so I always made it easy and took the first one a mamasan pushed on me. They were always damn fine.

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Sorry but the lilnk to the google map for King Cross Hotel and Club in my previous post is incorrect. The correct link is:

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Jl+Bulevar+Bukit+Gading+Raya&sll=-6.158027,106.89472&sspn=0.005312,0.006791&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Jalan+Bulevar+Bukit+Gading+Raya,+Jakarta,+Indonesia&ll=-6.162913,106.89208&spn=0.022315,0.027165&z=15&iwloc=A[/url]

[QUOTE=Mantid]Last night I went to "King Cross", a place that was recommended a few posts back (#4242).

Next night went back in the evening. Found out that the dancers aren't available for sex. Although I did have one jump on my lap, squirm around and ask for a drink[/QUOTE]Mantid, Thanks for your excellent report following which I went there myself. Its a long trek but definitely worth it. I enquired about the dancers and found that not all but some are available. Make friends with one of the waiters and he will advise you. For the ones that are available the dancing is 'advertising'. Nothing like being able to see the goods in full before you buy.

Sounds like a definite add to the next Jakarta trip itinerary.

Your detailed reporting and map link are very much appreciated. Thanks for the good work

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Many of us (men AND women) use DIA as a means of hooking up with people of opposite gender but similar interests.

As its name implies its a place for "Dates" rather than " Living happily ever after. Com".

However many ladies regard it as a place to find Mr Right.

Was perusing the sadi site today when came across a lady who had posted a remarkable set of rules to be a contender. As follows:

Am here to meet my future husband and I have a few important rules that I follow:
[/QUOTE]

Yeah I saw that one. I've had one respond to me saying that she only there for the money. So we cut to the chase, she looks quite attractive, all things going good, till we get to the price - 800k long time. Response? I'll get back to you.

She did alright. I'm blocked. Oh well.

I've never paid that from CJs or BATS, and this girl is sight unseen, except for one picture. Guess plenty of others take the bait though!

[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Bad News = As of a few weeks ago, Indonesian immigration no longer issuing the US$10 7-day visa-on-demand. They are only issuing 30-day US$25 VOD. Crap. :(

Good News = I can afford it and there are still oh-so-many reasons to pay the extra. See pic for illustrative purposes! :)

Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain ;)[/QUOTE]Nice

Planning a trip down there in a month or so

Would love to meet her.

We always get questions about hotels, but here's a question for the Jakarta residents and apt dwellers in the room, particularly those who don't have wives or permanent girl friends to account to. Has anyone had serious issues resulting from girls from Blok M and elsewhere knowing your address after you bring them home? Coming to haunt you? Dropping around unannounced? That kind of stuff? Probably more likely to be an issue with amateurs with hurt feelings rather than the professionals, who don't usually make scenes, I reckon. Still, any ideas? Stories? Input? Strategies?

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]We always get questions about hotels, but here's a question for the Jakarta residents and apt dwellers in the room, particularly those who don't have wives or permanent girl friends to account to. Has anyone had serious issues resulting from girls from Blok M and elsewhere knowing your address after you bring them home? Coming to haunt you? Dropping around unannounced? That kind of stuff? Probably more likely to be an issue with amateurs with hurt feelings rather than the professionals, who don't usually make scenes, I reckon. Still, any ideas? Stories? Input? Strategies?[/QUOTE]

Many local mongers will either take the ladies to a short time hotel (Princen Park, etc), or have some other place to take them to. I'm sure having a lady come by and knocking on the door at 2am could get old real quick.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]We always get questions about hotels, but here's a question for the Jakarta residents and apt dwellers in the room, particularly those who don't have wives or permanent girl friends to account to. Has anyone had serious issues resulting from girls from Blok M and elsewhere knowing your address after you bring them home? Coming to haunt you? Dropping around unannounced? That kind of stuff? Probably more likely to be an issue with amateurs with hurt feelings rather than the professionals, who don't usually make scenes, I reckon. Still, any ideas? Stories? Input? Strategies?[/QUOTE]
Never had a problem at either my houses or apartments .. that is from WG's. But amateurs have been known to occasionally drop by unannounced. But easily dealt with .. sorry I have a friend here just now type of comment. Having said that guys with GF's I know have had problems with amateurs popping around at awkward times.

Moved in recently and following the forum for a couple of months now.

Working up on tagged as advised on the forum. I think the investment has started paying dividends!

Found a nice indo chinese girl, beautiful 31yr working professional, plump on the hips and a decent pair of B's. About 5'4 and fair with long straight hair and lovely soft arse.

Chatted for a couple of days and things seemed positive. First meeting for just a casual coffee, gave her a quick peck on the lips. On returning back got an sms to meet again in the evening. Who am I to complain :D

Was a little worried about taking her to my room at Aryadutta but it was surprisingly cool and she looks very professional so i guess they didnt bother.

In the room we started some passionate kissing and undressing. To my surprise she had a natural bush down there which was not really a turn off but never seen a pussy with soo much hair :D. Followed by shower where she cleaned my body thoroughly jumped on to the bed followed by DATY which was good as she had a fairly large pussy lips and clit. When it was her turn she did something unexpected, took some ice cubes and started a BJ it was amazing.... the sensation of ice and a warm tongue the contrast is fantastic and I think it made me last much longer.

Put on a condom and LO she puts a piece of ice up her pussy and goes on cowgirl ! i mean how did she think of it. The ice melted away in time and we switched positions to Doggie. I am an arse fan so loved rubbing her glory hold with my thumb while fucking her doggie and she was moaning in pleasure. Turned her around and finished in mish. She cuddled and
slept for wht seemed like an hour and got up for round two the same performance repeated replacing DATY with 69.

Unfortunately cannot come over the weekends as she has to be home with family.

Overall it was a great experience
Face 7/10
Body 8/10 - I love plump girls
Attitude 10/10

Just hoping she is not a clinger !

and sorry strictly no photos made me put my cell in the drawer.

Ahoy there Genitalmen,
I should be in Jakarta March 3rd and will stay in the country for 1 to 2 months (or maybe longer if possible). My accommodations are not set in stone yet and I might be up to renting an apt or hostel room by the week or longer. Expensive hotels will just subtract what I can p4p and normal healthy pursuits. Free pussy search will also be on the agenda. Six months in Ecuador proved to me that cheap stay rentals ($90usd/mo), 20 min sex for $7 (i.e. 700 "pennies"), & eventual free regular pussy (& dripping wet !) were all possible. I hope to learn that similar things & more can be found during my ID stay.

I know I've lots of catch up reading to do on these ISG regional threads as I move along. I wish I was better prepared so I'm basically "winging it" to a large degree. I look forward to meeting some cool ISG members, ex-pats, et al to which we can share some camaraderie. Maybe I can also start posting some juicy photos again. :)

Also was wondering how experienced mongerers would compare the Kuta area of Denpasar to Jakarta for fun and games, esp. with the ladies. My Aussie lady friend in TJ says lots of her countrymen of lesser mean$ will often go there to play with the girls. That might be for me ! lol

Lots of girls. Even early evening. Many good looking. Around 30 USD (300, 000 IDR) is the going rate. But take your time in choosing. And remember this is not a place designed for Westerners (Bule). It is for Asians. You'll probably be the only white guy in the place. Which is not a problem. But realize in advance that, while you can sit there and drink beer as you decide, this is not Blok M in South Jakarta (a place set up for Westerners. A sort of tamer-yet-still-pub-like experience of Thailand/Cambodia). It's a brothel for Indo guys and other Asians who can blend in better than you. (don't let me put you off. It's fine. But not for everyone)

If you are Okay with that. Then you will find a well-stocked in-house experience.

Plus side is that it has good looking girls available earlyish evening. A one-stop shop. Negative side is that the whole area it is pretty seedy and aside from a couple of decent middle-priced hotels in the area (RTF-Hotels-F), you are miles from everything else like Blok M and Shopping Malls. Though near the tall ships. Jakarta has worst traffic in SE Asia. Be warned.

Was wondering if there are many horror stories of hotel guests having their stuff stolen from their rooms in Jakarta, esp. the lower priced places.

[QUOTE=Bobisee]Was wondering if there are many horror stories of hotel guests having their stuff stolen from their rooms in Jakarta, esp. the lower priced places.[/QUOTE]

You mean by staff or by girls? I've got to say, I'm surprised at how rarely you hear of girls pinching money, although it does occasionally happen. I can remember coming home with girls in totally inebriated states and being extremely careless with my wallet on numerous occasions. I can only remember having money taken once.

I remember not so long ago, being shaken gently awake to seeing a blurry, double image of my fully dressed companion, waving Rp 500 thou that she'd extracted from my wallet, and saying "I've got to go now. Is it okay if I take this?"

I don't think Indonesian hotels are particularly bad, either. However, always nice to be able to put valuables in cash and in a safe deposit box if you can, of course.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]Y, I'm surprised at how rarely you hear of girls pinching money, although it does occasionally happen. [/QUOTE]

I've traveled to many countries. I think the indo girls are the most honest. Thai girls are also pretty honest. In my 10 years in Asia, I've never had any indo or thai girl take anything from me. And many times I've left my wallet or even open cash sitting on the table while I passed out drunk.

Try leaving your wallet on the table then go to sleep drunk in Africa or China. Your money won't be there long.

I've never had anything taken in Indonesia. In fact, it's usually quite the opposite. I recall staying at a 2 star hotel near Lokasari, and I left some drinks in the room that I had brought with me. As I was leaving, the room attendant came rushing down with a bag full of the items to return to me.

I wish I could say the same in other countries.

Was at Maribaya the other day, and have to confirm what others have posted – that the price has gone up form 400,000 to 450,000. Still not a bad deal, as I have always received excellent service there.

Actually, the only time I was disappointed was with a girl on the evening shift (After 5 PM), and wondered if any others have noticed any difference between the service comparing the day staff to the night staff?

Is anyone familiar with any mongering spots further south than Blok M?

I have heard rumors about a place (private house) near the Hotel Crystal in Cilandak, but have not been able to find it, even after asking taxi, bajaj and ojek drivers.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]I've traveled to many countries. I think the indo girls are the most honest. Thai girls are also pretty honest. In my 10 years in Asia, I've never had any indo or thai girl take anything from me. And many times I've left my wallet or even open cash sitting on the table while I passed out drunk.

Try leaving your wallet on the table then go to sleep drunk in Africa or China. Your money won't be there long.[/QUOTE]Most hotels provide safe, I recommend USE it.

[QUOTE=Bobisee]Was wondering if there are many horror stories of hotel guests having their stuff stolen from their rooms in Jakarta, esp. the lower priced places.[/QUOTE]
Yep, some years ago i got complacent. Picked up this Chinese lady (30 in age) from Sulawesi. Funny thing was I met her in the company of some folks in a bar in Jalat Jaksa and did not even bed her on the first night. Met her again the next night and took her back to my room at the Paragon. Good fun in bed, very gfe and after the deed I could not fall asleep. The call for prayer was going on and boy are they loud. I put in some earplugs so as to get some shut eye.

Woke up a few hours later to a lot of missing items. Two mobile phones (plus chargers, spare batteries), MP3 player, glasses, sun-glasses and a lot more. I still do not know how she managed to pass the reception desk without drawing attention. Hmmm. For the next week I kept reaching into my bag for something only to find that it was no longer there. Happily she did not find my stash of a couple of hundred dollars hidden in my luggage but she found just about everything else. At least my credit cards, drivers license and passport were in the safety deposit box at reception.

Met the "friends" (mainly expats and their girlfriends) again later that evening. It turned out that they were not her friends but just some folks she latched onto. I later remembered one of the girls in the bar/cafe where we had been drinking had had her mobile stolen.

The reality was that I had let my guard down. Had it been some professional from Blok M, I would have just gone short time with her. But in my beer sodden state, I had decided that because she "knew" the expats, did not ask for money, that she was a non-pro and therefore ok! The reality is that I had mistaken her profession - she was not a hooker but a thief!

Many professional hookers do not steal because they are afraid they will run into the angry customer sometime soon and they may want to continue plying their trade in the bar of their choice. But I would not go about leaving lots of temptation in their way.

[QUOTE=Simian]Many professional hookers do not steal because they are afraid they will run into the angry customer sometime soon and they may want to continue plying their trade in the bar of their choice. But I would not go about leaving lots of temptation in their way.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I think that's about right. The girl I mentioned in my previous report came up to me in Top Gun a few weeks later and made a point of checking that I was cool with the fact that she'd only taken what was coming to her. In fact, I liked her style so much that I took her home again ...

[QUOTE=Smoothy]And many times I've left my wallet or even open cash sitting on the table while I passed out drunk.[/QUOTE]
I'm also nearly 10 years in SEA and I'm same careless with digital camera, wallet or handphone. Never got anything stolen by the girls.

Enjoy!

Once had a girl take my aftershave ... and another took another girls earrings which had been left beside the bed. Both Blok M girls, but it was in the early days when I was new in town. Both girls still around and both subsequently aologised with some made up excuse .. but I have been lucky with wallets and other items and put it down to the fact that I almost always take girls from Blok M only and I am very well known there. If I am doing a short time in North Jakarta I am extra vigilant. But to echo what others say here, by and large Indonesian girls seem to be reasonably honest and they know the repercussions of getting a reputation for misbehaving like that.

Hi

Arrived at the area with the girls waiting, saw a nice one, she smiled so off we went. Nita, she say she 24, I think about 8/10, good body and nice face. Good experience, she started with BBBJ then we have some positions and I finish on top. I am sure she enjoyed too but if she did not then she made a good showing which made it good for me.

Would recommend this one. I was there at maybe 1900 hrs.

[QUOTE=RonnieMonger]Lots of girls. Even early evening. Many good looking. Around 30 USD (300, 000 IDR) is the going rate. But take your time in choosing. And remember this is not a place designed for Westerners (Bule). It is for Asians. You'll probably be the only white guy in the place. Which is not a problem. But realize in advance that, while you can sit there and drink beer as you decide, this is not Blok M in South Jakarta (a place set up for Westerners. A sort of tamer-yet-still-pub-like experience of Thailand/Cambodia). It's a brothel for Indo guys and other Asians who can blend in better than you. (don't let me put you off. It's fine. But not for everyone)

If you are Okay with that. Then you will find a well-stocked in-house experience.

Plus side is that it has good looking girls available earlyish evening. A one-stop shop. Negative side is that the whole area it is pretty seedy and aside from a couple of decent middle-priced hotels in the area (RTF-Hotels-F), you are miles from everything else like Blok M and Shopping Malls. Though near the tall ships. Jakarta has worst traffic in SE Asia. Be warned.[/QUOTE]Most of Jakarta is seedy (Hotel Travel neighborhood is safe and I loved the street food), I wouldn't stay in a hotel near Hotel Travel but I wouldn't stay in a hotel in many places that have good P4P activities. And being the only white guy in the place is irrelevant. You are just another customer, treated well, and I never had a girl care that I wasn't Asian. The girls are of high quality, the price is right, so don't deny yourself one of the pleasures of Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Mantid]Most of Jakarta is seedy (Hotel Travel neighborhood is safe and I loved the street food), I wouldn't stay in a hotel near Hotel Travel but I wouldn't stay in a hotel in many places that have good P4P activities. And being the only white guy in the place is irrelevant. You are just another customer, treated well, and I never had a girl care that I wasn't Asian. The girls are of high quality, the price is right, so don't deny yourself one of the pleasures of Jakarta.[/QUOTE]

Whilst I agree with the tone of your report, there are many establishments, especially in North Jakarta and Sanur's X houses where Bule's will not be serviced. This is at the discretion of the individual girl and whilst one will not, the one beside her may. Its just a quirk of the trade. Whilst in somewhere like Blok M or the 5 star hotel clubs, the reverse can apply.

I go to Indonesia regularly, once a year, and sometimes twice.

I was used to go to TC, where, in the past, you could find good girls, students, going there part time for cashing a little money. Sometimes you could find nice girls in a group, chatting outside the venue, sometimies you could find the girls inside, with the help of Lina, a good mamasan english-speaking, now not working there anymore (arrested, maybe?

This year I visited again TC, and I found it empty of girls an full of indonesian men drinking beer; that's not the venue of 4-5 years ago. It's a pity.

Can someone of you members write me where I can find a nice and clean student, for a reasonable price. Once TC was the best venue in Pacific Rim.

Thanks for the security info. I might be a little different than many in that I won't trust the ladies enough not [u]to always keep an eye on them[/u], that is ... when they are in my room or around my stuff. Usually my good shit won't be left out to where the girls can be easily tempted.

This will be especially true if I'm paying below the going rate in which she might want to "get even". I'm sorry though, but I just can't find myself paying women too much for sex. When I get older, uglier, stinky, or generally repulsive, I might become more compassionate for the sex industry women and pay them more. Hopefully by then, my sex drive will way less or at least I'll feel that I've had my share and fulfillment of libido satisfaction.

Btw, I thought my wallet and passport was stolen out of my hotel room the other day, but it turned out that I just hid it too well. lol However, yesterday for the first I started using the hotel front desk security locker for a few items.

[QUOTE=Three Nuts]I was used to go [u]to TC[/u], where, in the past, you could find good girls, students, ..... .[/QUOTE]
Somebody please tell what or where "TC" is ?

[QUOTE=Possessed Seoul]For those who do indulge, ecstasy and shabu shabu (meth) seem to be the drugs of choice, and are not usually injected. You'll find the odd heroin user around Jl. Jaksa, [b]but most girls there are to be avoided.[/b][/QUOTE]
I've been in the Jaksa St. area for several days now and had three p4p ladies. Is the suggestion that "most girls there are to be avoided" because of the sicknesses associated to drug usage ?

Maybe that will be a good motivation for me to find other cool areas to stay and hang out. However, I would prefer to have p4p options available if not nearby.

Bobisee, people here use TC for Today's Country or Tiara Ceria. I'm not sure which is right, but it's on the second floor of Lokasari Plaza in north Jakarta. It's a bar and brothel in a small shopping mall. It used to be absolutely fantastic in late afternoons/early evenings. You could do drop dead beautiful young stunners for next to nothing. From recent reports it's not nearly what it used to be.

About Jalan Jaksa, I stayed away because the women were ugly. And I never saw a lot of hookers there. The first time I was in Jakarta I stayed at the Sari Pan Pacific, around the corner, so did investigate the area. And as you suspect there are much better mongering areas in Jakarta. You'd be better off moving to Blok M to the south or the area around Jalan Mangga Besar to the north. Blok M is more English friendly, while the latter has a lot more hotties.

[QUOTE=Bobisee]When I get older, uglier, stinky, or generally repulsive, I might become more compassionate for the sex industry women and pay them more.

Btw, I thought my wallet and passport was stolen out of my hotel room the other day, but it turned out that I just hid it too well. [/QUOTE]
I suppose that guys who are "ugly, stinky or generally repulsive" were that way at all ages and stages of their lives. That's more about attitude and behavior than youth or physical appearance anyway. But - as an "already older" - speaking only for myself (of course), at 51 my sex drive hasn't slowed down - at least not yet. Sure, it takes me longer to recover between shots, and the nights when I went 6 rounds are probably gone forever, but I still pursue pussy with a passion. And these days, I turn down more free pussy than I ever dreamed of tasting in my early 20's. Not because I don't still get plenty - but maybe because some of getting older is getting better at persuading poon to give it up. Freebie poon I mean - anyone can easily pay for pussy . . . at ANY age.

Interesting set of posts on hooker honesty. I agree with all the posters who make the point about not tempting bad behavior by locking away your valuables - passport, plane-tickets, excess cash, wedding-ring (grin) and so on. But I also agree with the majority view that a huge majority of working girls are NOT thieves.

I have been with hundreds and hundreds of hookers - including many overnight sleeping dates - in more than a dozen countries, but mainly Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and the Philippines. In all that time, I have been burgled only twice - both times early on, when my newbie lack of experience was surely obvious. The first time in Canberra, Australia - a huge-titted, aggressive blonde who encouraged me to shower first ("I will join you" she said) and then rifled my luggage and fled. A second time in Bangkok with some missing cash from my pants pocket - and that's all. Never another time!

Ah, unless you count working girls helping themselves to much of the liquor in the mini-bar, or sweeping the bathroom clean of shampoo, soaps and toothbrushes. With the liquor (here, I'm not talking about what they drink while we play), I simply keep a closer eye on them now. With the toiletries, I don't really mind anyway.

I had lost touch with red-light districts in and around Jakarta until I saw this in the Sunday 7 March 2010 edition of The Jakarta Post:

From as long ago as the turn of the 18th century, tales of the beauty of the women strolling the notorious Kalijodo red-light district, on the border between West Jakarta and North Jakarta, have lured many into experiencing the vibes of Indonesia’s oldest complex of brothels. The Jakarta Post delved into Kalijodo to explore its underbelly and uncovering the secret of its longevity. Here are the stories:

The typical welcome afforded to visitors to the Kalijodo red-light district comes from the stream of sex workers and their handlers out on the street.

One mamasan who goes by the improbable name of Ncim, a middle-aged Chinese-Indonesian woman, repeatedly thrusts her 19-year-old charge, Imel, onto visitors fresh off the proverbial boat.

“She’s very good at doing things all night long, and for a reasonable price, only Rp 100,000 [US$10.70] for a short time,” she says.

When no one takes the bait, Ncim chisels the price down to Rp 80,000.

“I usually get Rp 20,000 for each trick the girl turns, and the pimp gets Rp 30,000,” she later tells The Jakarta Post.

“The rest goes to the girl.”

Ncim is among hundreds of veteran mamasans and pimps working the 1.5-kilometer stretch along the Grogol River lined with Kalijodo’s 100 brothels and pubs.

The red-light area straddles Penjaringan district in North Jakarta and Tambora district in West Jakarta.
Spread over 2.8 hectares, it’s open 24 hours a day and caters mostly to middle- and lower-income Jakartans, including civil servants, police, truckers, dock workers, street thugs and university students.

Kalijodo means “river of destiny”, and fittingly enough it has come to epitomize Jakarta’s seedy underbelly thriving amid the capital’s ups and downs, the elephant in the room that pays the rent.

The bizarre love child of organized crime and a corrupt bureaucracy and law enforcement system, Kalijodo came into being as a cash cow.

While prostitution is illegal, many of the brothels are located just 20 meters from the local district office, and 100 meters from a police station, lending credence to allegations that Kalijodo is a source of income for many bureaucrats and police officers.

Jakarta Police spokesman Sr. Comr. Boy Rafli Amar and Jakarta administration spokesman Cucu Ahmad Kurnia both declined to comment to the Post on the issue.

Besides the obvious corrupt officials looking for a slice of the pie, chronic urban poverty and unemployment are also key factors behind Kalijodo’s thriving flesh trade.

City officials have repeatedly pointed out the difficulty of closing down the brothels without upsetting Jakarta’s fairly stable security situation.

The livelihoods of at least 5,000 people — from hoodlums to sex workers, brothel owners to waitstaff, cigarette and food vendors to local residents — are tied to the continued existence of the district.

Closing down the brothels will only force the people to move to other areas to ply their trade, say critics.

Worse yet, the neighboring residential areas are among Jakarta’s poorest, for whom a sliver of the proceeds from Kalijodo’s lucrative business has always meant a lot.

The complete article may be found at:

[url]http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2010/03/07/poverty-corruption-feed-kalijodo-honeypot.html[/url]

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[QUOTE=Tiny 12]About Jalan Jaksa, I stayed away because the women were ugly.[/QUOTE]

Well, YMMV. I scored a lovely semi-pro kindergarten teacher there on Friday. Not exactly a freebie, I gave her some money in the morning, a fairly standard Rp400K for LT. Still, you'd be lucky to get that kind of naivety and charm on the Blok. Also, after 2 or 3, you'll see all the girls from Bats and/or the Blok come for a quick couple of drinks and a last chance pull at bargain rates. It's only one option out of hundreds in Jakarta, but don't write off Jaksa sight unseen ...

Re recent reports on this spot. Anyone know approx how long it would take to get there at 9pm. Have a JKTA trip coming soon and maybe this/these places will make an interesting night out as an alternate to my usual freebie hunting and blok M drinking

Thanks

Re recent reports on this spot. Anyone know approx how long it would take to get there at 9pm from Sudirman.

Have a JKTA trip coming soon and maybe this/these places will make an interesting night out as an alternate to my usual freebie hunting and blok M drinking.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bule2004]I had lost touch with red-light districts in and around Jakarta until I saw this in the Sunday 7 March 2010 edition of The Jakarta Post:

From as long ago as the turn of the 18th century, tales of the beauty of the women strolling the notorious Kalijodo red-light district, on the border between West Jakarta and North Jakarta, have lured many into experiencing the vibes of Indonesia’s oldest complex of brothels. The Jakarta Post delved into Kalijodo to explore its underbelly and uncovering the secret of its longevity. Here are the stories:

The typical welcome afforded to visitors to the Kalijodo red-light district comes from the stream of sex workers and their handlers out on the street.

One mamasan who goes by the improbable name of Ncim, a middle-aged Chinese-Indonesian woman, repeatedly thrusts her 19-year-old charge, Imel, onto visitors fresh off the proverbial boat.

“She’s very good at doing things all night long, and for a reasonable price, only Rp 100,000 [US$10.70] for a short time,” she says.

When no one takes the bait, Ncim chisels the price down to Rp 80,000.

“I usually get Rp 20,000 for each trick the girl turns, and the pimp gets Rp 30,000,” she later tells The Jakarta Post.

“The rest goes to the girl.”

Ncim is among hundreds of veteran mamasans and pimps working the 1.5-kilometer stretch along the Grogol River lined with Kalijodo’s 100 brothels and pubs.

The red-light area straddles Penjaringan district in North Jakarta and Tambora district in West Jakarta.
Spread over 2.8 hectares, it’s open 24 hours a day and caters mostly to middle- and lower-income Jakartans, including civil servants, police, truckers, dock workers, street thugs and university students.

Kalijodo means “river of destiny”, and fittingly enough it has come to epitomize Jakarta’s seedy underbelly thriving amid the capital’s ups and downs, the elephant in the room that pays the rent.

The bizarre love child of organized crime and a corrupt bureaucracy and law enforcement system, Kalijodo came into being as a cash cow.

While prostitution is illegal, many of the brothels are located just 20 meters from the local district office, and 100 meters from a police station, lending credence to allegations that Kalijodo is a source of income for many bureaucrats and police officers.

Jakarta Police spokesman Sr. Comr. Boy Rafli Amar and Jakarta administration spokesman Cucu Ahmad Kurnia both declined to comment to the Post on the issue.

Besides the obvious corrupt officials looking for a slice of the pie, chronic urban poverty and unemployment are also key factors behind Kalijodo’s thriving flesh trade.

City officials have repeatedly pointed out the difficulty of closing down the brothels without upsetting Jakarta’s fairly stable security situation.

The livelihoods of at least 5,000 people — from hoodlums to sex workers, brothel owners to waitstaff, cigarette and food vendors to local residents — are tied to the continued existence of the district.

Closing down the brothels will only force the people to move to other areas to ply their trade, say critics.

Worse yet, the neighboring residential areas are among Jakarta’s poorest, for whom a sliver of the proceeds from Kalijodo’s lucrative business has always meant a lot.

The complete article may be found at:

[url]http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2010/03/07/poverty-corruption-feed-kalijodo-honeypot.html[/url]

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Hi
A new big undiscovered RLD in Jakarta !!??
Anyone who has been there ?

BL

[QUOTE=ButtLover]Hi
A new big undiscovered RLD in Jakarta !!??
Anyone who has been there ?BL[/QUOTE]

May be undiscovered, but certainly not hidden. You can see it quite clearly from the toll road from the airport into town if you're traveling in the far left lane, not so far from the Muara Angke turn-off, from memory.

I went there once. To be honest, apart from the novelty value, I didn't think it was worth the hassle. ST prices in the venue I went to were nowhere near as cheap as the article indicates, more in the 200-300K category. Quality was only so-so, just a fairly unremarkable collection of Indramayu chicken. Might be ok if you've already done everywhere else in Jakarta and want the full set, but apart from that, I'd stick to Kota or the Blok ....

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Re recent reports on this spot. Anyone know approx how long it would take to get there at 9pm from Sudirman.

Have a JKTA trip coming soon and maybe this/these places will make an interesting night out as an alternate to my usual freebie hunting and blok M drinking.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I would say 45 mins at a nice leisurely place. I am sure you will have a good time in K C.

[QUOTE=ButtLover]Hi
A new big undiscovered RLD in Jakarta !!??
Anyone who has been there ?

BL[/QUOTE]

Well, undiscovered by ISG'ers maybe. But I doubt that. I'm pretty sure the Mighty Spearman (how are you my friend?) has also been there.

Not to mention Jakarta After Dark2, THE guide for mongering in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=ButtLover]Hi
A new big undiscovered RLD in Jakarta !!??
Anyone who has been there ?

BL[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure it was written about here a couple of years ago..

Was in Jakarta after a couple of years and checked out many of the spots reported on this forum. Here is an update:

Monday. Spent time at Kama Sutra lounge at Crowne Plaza. Very little on offer. Two girls who joined our table were in their mid thirties or more. Sweet for conversation, though. Not much excitement. Perhaps because it was Monday! And pretty expensive too.

Tuesday. Went to Today's Country for the first time. Reached around 9:30 pm. It was dark and dingy and not much action. Girls were ok, but got put off with the mamasan pushing and left after the first drink. Then walked to Hotel Travels. Great choice of girls on show. Picked up Isa, who was probably in her early 20s. Great service, but very professional. She wanted to get into the action immediately and finish off as soon as possible. Looks was 8/10 for experience was 5/10.

Wednesday. Landed at Block M. The tried and tested haunt around 8:30 pm. Top Gun was just waking up, so left after a couple of drinks and visited D's place around 9:30. But it was probably too early there. Then went to My Bar, which was dead. Some champs were playing at the billiard table and all the limited crowd was the audience. No action there, so went back to Top Gun and located a really cute one, Yani. Perhaps in her mid 20's bright eyes and a beautiful eyes. She introduce her friend Rani, who was petite and appeared to be a novice. Decided to take Rani back to the hotel, but again she was in a great hurry to leave. So, I just paid after a perfunctory session and let her go her to "her baby. ".

All in all, not too lucky on this trip. But, quality of girls on offer at Top Gun continues to be fabulous. One's got to find the right one: and I have found that it is difficult to guage in-room behaviour based on in-bar attitude.

Maybe I will be luckier next time.

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They are sisters, both were new to the game a couple of years ago but now as professional as one can get. Doublecheck my posts from 2007 to see some pix...a fellow ISGer and I did a stereo session in my Shangrila room back then :D

Anybody know if Asia Air is/was offering promotional flights of $41 usd from Jakarta to Bangkok ? A German guy was telling me about it, but I can't seem to find anything on the website at that rate. Maybe it's dead and gone. :(

hi,
I am flying in to this lovely place next week. have been busy RTFF and very interested to check out soapy massage. Any other recommendation other than neneh of Kartika?

Cheers
JL

Curious whether any Jakarta residents have experience or advice on keeping a mistress in jakarta? I am trying this now, and have a lovely young women stashed in an apt equidistant between office and apartment (I'm married) at a total cost of about 800 USD per month-300 for her apt and 500 per month for her. Sex is not GFE-but far far better than any GF I ever had. I enjoy the convenience for daytime fun, but realize that it would be cheaper to visit places like travel, etc. Anyone trying something similar or can advise on usual price, if such a thing exists?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Member #3088]... at a total cost of about 800 USD per month-300 for her apt and 500 per month for her.[/QUOTE]

That's funny: the one who stayed at my place last saturday said she had a "boyfriend" who was giving her USD500 and an apartment. Your "mistress" doesn't come from Bandung, does she?

You are being most generous - she should be a premium on-demand GFE/PSE. I had a squeeze staying in a very nice kost (rooming house) in kota for USD250/month - furnished, aircon, laundry and 24/7 security. The USD500 "salary" you are giving her is the equivalent of 3x a secretary salary - close to an entry level university grad. That being said, if it is not breaking the bank and you get all the sex-on-demand you can handle, then you are not being over the top if she uses that money to look good (clothes/salon/etc.) for you.

Of course you will "save" a bundle if you go up to kota, grab a girl at TC or Travel or blah-blah-blah place. Rp600k for girl/check-in is way generous and that gives you the equivalent of 10-12 rounds in kota for the equivalent cost of maintaining your squeeze. And you get plenty of variety!

However, if you have your squeeze trained right (i.e. she services you just the way you want), then why not keep her and take some kota action on the side? You sound like a sexpat, so you can afford it. Besides, ususally when you have a wife the most important thing is time management - you need a provider that will give you that perfect quickie so you can get back to the Miss fresh. Just make sure your squeeze doesn't use a lot of perfume! ;)

Enjoy life in Jakarta! AsianRain

[QUOTE=Member #3088]Curious whether any Jakarta residents have experience or advice on keeping a mistress in jakarta? I am trying this now, and have a lovely young women stashed in an apt equidistant between office and apartment (I'm married) at a total cost of about 800 USD per month-300 for her apt and 500 per month for her. Sex is not GFE-but far far better than any GF I ever had. I enjoy the convenience for daytime fun, but realize that it would be cheaper to visit places like travel, etc. Anyone trying something similar or can advise on usual price, if such a thing exists?[/QUOTE]

Ar and Gonzo Two, thanks for feedback. I'm not the best at negotiation, but the sex is fabulous and convenient. As AR points out, if you are married, time management is the key, especially with Jakarta's badly clogged roads. Quality and time matter much more than money to me. No, she's not from Bandung. But that certainly doesn't mean that you haven't met her, Gonzo! As readers of this forum and residents here know, girlfriends/mistresses/squeezes or whatever you want to call them are not normally faithful to their boyfriends. I've send more than one young lady off to the airport meet her boyfriend overseas after a throughout workout. Legally married women are much more likely to be faithful.

[QUOTE=Member #3088]Legally married women are much more likely to be faithful.[/QUOTE]

As someone previously married to a legally married woman, I'm not sure that my experience leads me to agree. But it sounds like the deal you've got going is working for you. Good on ya!

Wondering if anyone could talk me through the Mal Atrium scene -- who it is and how it works?

mmmm, I'm sorry but I like to understand fine. I always read differences between Thailandia (Pattaya) and Indonesia (Jakarta). All the people always tell that Thailandia is wonderful for sex but Jakarta is better for girl friend experience. But .... here, on this Jakarta forum I always read about paying for fucking. People go to Night clubs, Travel hotel, Kota, Block M, etc, etc. Perhaps is it better Thailandia than Indonesia for fucking? Where is real difference between them? mmmmm
Reading these posts I like Jakarta less. ;)
Why do I have to choose Jakarta instead of Pattaya? Why?
I thank you!

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Why do I have to choose Jakarta instead of Pattaya? Why?[/QUOTE]Of course you don't have to choose Jakarta. Just go to Thailandia like everyone else. Jakarta isn't really geared for sex tourists nor would it be the same if it were. You won't get a girlfriend here... you will pay one way or another like everyone else.

Unless you have been to Jakarta and tried the situation you will never know. I would try to explain it so you understand fine, but I can't type that slow. Enjoy Thailandia, AsianRain

[QUOTE=Bobisee]Anybody know if Asia Air is/was offering promotional flights of $41 usd from Jakarta to Bangkok ? A German guy was telling me about it, but I can't seem to find anything on the website at that rate. Maybe it's dead and gone. :([/QUOTE]

Deal gone. But they are always coming and going....you must check a couple of times a week.

I have just booked JetStar/ValueAir Singapore to Jakarta for SGD $78 return (about USD 50) all in.

[QUOTE=Member #3088]Curious whether any Jakarta residents have experience or advice on keeping a mistress in jakarta? I am trying this now, and have a lovely young women stashed in an apt equidistant between office and apartment (I'm married) at a total cost of about 800 USD per month-300 for her apt and 500 per month for her. Sex is not GFE-but far far better than any GF I ever had. I enjoy the convenience for daytime fun, but realize that it would be cheaper to visit places like travel, etc. Anyone trying something similar or can advise on usual price, if such a thing exists?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
Yes, bro- experience, have been doing so for a long time. The advice, think about it. Because a- it's a lot of work looking after two girls. b- sooner or later she may get suspicious about your activities in jkt or at home and chances of her being repeatedly unfaithful becomes next to 100 percent. c- if you want to break up later with her, where is she going to go. Most mistresses have little or no income of themselves and booting the lovely gal out on the streets, you may need a heart as cold as ice. Best.

Have a Jakarta trip upcoming and whilst theres a few freebies I always enjoy a nice massage with a SYT now and again. Had a good session in Fortune last year but can't remember prices.

I remember theres two types of rooms, more expensive ones with shower etc.

Anyone been there recently and know current prices.

Its that or the hotels in Menteng but seem to always get the older woman in those places.

Anyone got any other good recommendations for massage near to Le Meridien?

Many Thanks.

[QUOTE=Tommy Suharto]Yes, bro- experience, have been doing so for a long time. The advice, think about it. Because a- it's a lot of work looking after two girls. b- sooner or later she may get suspicious about your activities in jkt or at home and chances of her being repeatedly unfaithful becomes next to 100 percent. c- if you want to break up later with her, where is she going to go. Most mistresses have little or no income of themselves and booting the lovely gal out on the streets, you may need a heart as cold as ice. Best.[/QUOTE]Why keep a cow when u can have fresh milk everyday.

[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Jakarta isn't really geared for sex tourists nor would it be the same if it were.[/QUOTE]

I think that's it in a nutshell. Just personal, of course, and no judgement on anyone else, but I always find that Phnom Penh and Bangkok bar scene a bit tacky, with all those guys coming in for their two week sex tours. Blok M is really much more an expat-and-insider kind of place. Maybe that shows in the girls' attitudes, too - they know that they may be seeing the same faces again, so there's the grudging respect that any vendor gives a customer who may be coming back.

Kinda like the difference between the vendors on Kuta beach - where they are dealing with the mass tourist market - and the ones on Seminyak - where they are dealing more with expats and regulars. It shows.

[QUOTE]Anyone been there recently and know current prices.

Its that or the hotels in Menteng but seem to always get the older woman in those places.

Anyone got any other good recommendations for massage near to Le Meridien?

Many Thanks.[/QUOTE]there are three types of rooms: superior, deluxe, and suite (basically a hotel room with a bed). Massage is 300K for 2 sessions (1.5 hours) in superior and deluxe rooms; don't know the suite prices. Extras negotiable. Available extras depend upon the girl. HJ always available, sometimes BJ, FJ and body massage. Not cheap; they will ask 300K for HJ and on up. But the girls are cute.

For legit massage usually with no extras on offer, try Jaspa in Ambassador Mall nearby. Entrance in front of the at ground level.

[QUOTE=William Saw]Why keep a cow when u can have fresh milk everyday.[/QUOTE]The girl is milking me, not the other way around!

It is not my habit to comment on a fellowmember. But, as I noticed that Foxeshunter keeps asking the same or silly questions without any FR since 2007, I feel I had to. He does it in other threads too!

Take his postings with a grain, or better, a sack of salt. I think he only travels in his fantasy!

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]Blok M is really much more an expat-and-insider kind of place. Maybe that shows in the girls' attitudes, too - they know that they may be seeing the same faces again, so there's the grudging respect that any vendor gives a customer who may be coming back.

[/QUOTE]

Still a true enough situation but as a "regular" whom pops down to the Blok 2-3 times a week almost every week for the last 7 years, the "sex tourist" is alive and well and on the increase, and the girls know it. No where near other places but Jakarta is definitely on the map for guys traveling for mongering only as opposed to business plus the perk of mongering.
My 5 cents worth.

[QUOTE=Member #3088]there are three types of rooms: superior, deluxe, and suite (basically a hotel room with a bed). Massage is 300K for 2 sessions (1.5 hours) in superior and deluxe rooms; don't know the suite prices. Extras negotiable. Available extras depend upon the girl. HJ always available, sometimes BJ, FJ and body massage. Not cheap; they will ask 300K for HJ and on up. But the girls are cute.

For legit massage usually with no extras on offer, try Jaspa in Ambassador Mall nearby. Entrance in front of the at ground level.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sir!

[QUOTE=Menteng]Well, undiscovered by ISG'ers maybe. But I doubt that. I'm pretty sure the Mighty Spearsman (how are you my friend?) has also been there.

Not to mention Jakarta After Dark2, THE guide for mongering in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]
Hi Menteng, nice to receive a "shout-out" from you, I'm fine, hope you are well.

Yes, I went to Kali Jodo several times during the month of Ramadan (September-October 2007) and posted about my visits here on the board. I even posted two photos of a rickety-looking bridge across the garbage-filled river (creek?) that led to three or four brothels in the same block.

I had a few good sessions there, but it was hardly my first choice for mongering, and once Ramadan was over and my regular places (Kartika, Maribaya, etc.) re-opened, I never went back to Kali Jodo.

Yes, the girls were dirt-cheap, but I found it to be a bit more hard-core and impersonal than the places I normally went to, it's a hassle to get there, the facilities can be pretty basic (one place had no shower, only a bucket of water, with one towel the size of a handcloth) and I never felt entirely safe (I only went during the daytime). Most of the girls were "barely-legal" and unskilled, although I did find one gfe.

************
Some extra info:

- I just remembered that someone blasted me when I posted my reports on Kali Jodo in 2007; he claimed that the area is more dangerous than I had portrayed, that there is some gang action there, and in his opinion I should have not encouraged anyone to go there

- in any case, I had pointed out that this area is not for the faint of heart, and it certainly helped that I had lived in Jakarta for over a year at the time I visited there, and that I had decent conversational ability in Bahasa Indonesian language. With one notable exception, no one here spoke English. I certainly would recommend that any Jakarta newbie stay away from this area!

- my three posts refer to this area as "off Jalan Bidara Raya in Grogol" and may be found on the Jakarta board: Post #1227 of Sept. 29, 2007, Post #1256 on Oct. 2, 2007 and Post #1282 on Oct. 9, 2007.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]in any case, I had pointed out that this area is not for the faint of heart, and it certainly helped that I had lived in Jakarta for over a year at the time I visited there, and that I had decent conversational ability in Bahasa Indonesian language. With one notable exception, no one here spoke English. I certainly would recommend that any Jakarta newbie stay away from this area![/QUOTE]

Well, I agree with your conclusion, there are a lot of other places where the fun/effort ratio is much better. But I really think you're overstating how dirty and murky and dangerous it is - I went there with a few other bule friends, and everyone was friendly and welcoming, although, yeah, no English. I thought it was pretty much like the hundreds of brothel districts that you find in provincial towns across Indonesia. Like them, it's going for the lower middle/middle market. It's not REALLY slumming it, for that you have to go out onto the railway tracks and the river banks (never done that myself, by the way ...)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]They are sisters, both were new to the game a couple of years ago but now as professional as one can get. Doublecheck my posts from 2007 to see some pix...a fellow ISGer and I did a stereo session in my Shangrila room back then :D[/QUOTE]


Hahaha you remember that one....

Best regards

Ebowan

[QUOTE=Ebowan]Hahaha you remember that one....

Best regards

Ebowan[/QUOTE]


Still around, bruder?

[QUOTE=Ebowan]Hahaha you remember that one....

Best regards

Ebowan[/QUOTE]

We made them famous - I still remember the picture I took of you/Yanni (?) screwing like rabbits on MY bed.

I hope to visit sometime late April or early May for a day or two. Get the JAD and everyone else together. Maybe Menteng will fly back for a short visit?

:D

Dear Friends,

after a long time of absence (not abstinence) I have something to write...
Last night I had the urge to release pressure that had build up after remembering some good old times in Hayam Wuruk area. I hit the road and wanted to check out the lane behind the infamous Kartika. A lot of changes after I had last visit there approx. 4 years ago. I went into the Tin Tin Massage and Bar joint. The girls there are on the pics were around 24 to 28 years old. I pick up Yanti a 25 year old / young girl from Karawang. Had a nice massage from her and then shrt shower cleaning up the oil from my back. She took of the dress, 155 cm small, skinny of approx 45 kg ( what we call a spinner ) , flat chested a 34A breast, not shaved but not bushy, birth stretchmarks on the flat tummy. SOP licking here and there on my athletic body with a one pack (don't be so serious hahaha). BBBJ, balls and rimming which was pleasant and good. Due to small body size the Saber covered with a bridgestone had not full entered to feel the tip of the uterus. Moaning and stuff to round that up, She is not the prettiest one but friendly all in all a 7.5/10 for the service.

Name: Yanti from Karawang
Age: 25
155 cm/ 45 kg
Boobs (I wouldn't call them Boobs): 34A with nipples - soft tissue
BBBJ: 8/10
FK: N/A
FJ: 7/10
Total 7.5 / 10
Damage: 225 K at the counter and a 50k tip for the Girl.
May I return??? I guess not. Even it had a renovation the room faclities had not changed much.

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU

EBOWANKENOBI

[QUOTE=Menteng]Still around, bruder?[/QUOTE]

Hi Bruder,

I am still around, I am from time to time in Jakarta if I am not for office duty out of town.

I hope to see you again in good old Durian.

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU

EBOWANKENOBI

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]
Maybe Menteng will fly back for a short visit?

:D[/QUOTE]

I'm afraid I'll have to do with the chicas in Medellin for the time being :( :mad:

[QUOTE=Ebowan]
I hope to see you again in good old Durian.
[/QUOTE]

So do I! Keep in touch.

Was back in Jakarta a couple of weeks ago, stayed at the Mulia, quite a nice hotel, will probably make it my regular place to stay.

As one tends to do, I wandered down to CJs (bar/nightclub in the Mulia hotel) for a look at the action around 11pm. Quite a nice selection of girls to choose from, and ended up with a great little spinner, although I must admit to wearing fairly thick beer goggles at the time as it was around 1am when I finally made my selection. Up to the room, and she quickly ditched her clothes and got into the action. One of the better blowjobs I have had in recent times, and she quite unprompted started licking my ass, which I encouraged her to continue. Some good doggie followed, and given the amount of beer I had consumed I had pretty good staying power, and she happily took my pounding and seemed to enjoy it, although I am under no illusion that it was anything other than a professional performance.

There was never any discussion of price, and although she wanted to leave after one round, I handed her 600k which she stuffed into her purse without counting and she left me her phone number.

The next day I was feeling like some repeat action, so I called her up and she promptly came over. Very much the same performance, although I was much more sober so didn't last nearly as long. However she was great with the blowjob, licked my balls and ass again without prompting, but once again wanted to leave after the first round which was much shorter this time. She seems like a nice girl, quite a pro, but great service and attitude, so I gave her 600k again, but probably will not call her again since I prefer the LT girls so I can do them again in the morning before they leave!

Hi guys, I am Puta Playa from the Rio and Tokyo threads. I am up in Tokyo and planning to visit your fair city Jakarta for about 5 days starting 3/31 after my business is done here in Japan. I was considering Pattaya and Phnom Penh, but Jakarta seems so fun and GFE, like heaven even more than Rio...so I have booked my flight and put together sort of an itinerary and wondering if you guys could confirm that this is ideal.

I plan to stay in Kota area because of the lack of daytime action in Blok M and the long distance. I am used to point-and-fuck in Brasil and Mexico and places like that, so the girl doesn't need to be able to speak English. This is minimal, I may take more girls I can get good sleep or decide to replace my all nighters with a couple ST each night. Any comments?

Wednesday :

12 pm - Very tired from an overnight layover.
1 pm - Get a visa on arrival
1:30 - Taxi to Mercure Rekso
2:30 - Taxi to Mannga Besar area, Lokasari plaza, Today Country to see if I can pick up a nice college student FL and ST upstairs for 270k. Go up the escalator in the plaza to the first floor and go through the wooden door. 30k at the entrance. Get money changed after I leave, near the KFC
4:00 - Sleep
11 pm - Stadium night club. Jalan Hayam Wuruk, 4 alleys just south of the intersection of Jalan Hayam Wuruk and Jalan Mangga Besar. Takeout for 500-600k

Thursday:
12 pm, Travel Hotel. Manga Besar 8
4 pm, Today Country
5 pm - Mercure, 5 hours sleep
11 pm - Stadium or similar, takeout for 500-600k

Friday:
12 pm, Walk the streets of Manga Bessa looking for freebie or FL.
3 pm, Taxi to Travel Hotel, Jalan Mangga Besar VIII, which is a side road off of Jalan Mangga Besar.
5 pm - Taxi back to Mercure, 5 hours sleep
11 pm - Stadium night club.

Sat:
1 pm, Taxi to Alexis for Russian girl 1.5 million, correct?
5 pm - Taxi back to Mercure, 5 hours sleep
11 pm - Stadium night club.

Sun:
12 pm - Taxi to Alexis for Russian girl 1.5 million, correct?
3 pm - Scout King Cross Complex or do ST in cheaper massage parlor
4 pm -Taxi back to Mercure, 5 hours sleep
12 AM - Stadium night club.

Mon:
11 AM, King Cross Complex -Jalan Bulevar Bukit Gading Raya - Komplek KOKAN Permata Kelapa Gading Blok C no. 9-12A , ST ~350
3 pm, Misc some girl from somewhere
4 pm - Taxi back to airport..

How does this sound? About 5 days and 15 girls or so , mix of ST and LT.

-PP

[QUOTE=Puta Playa]2:30 - Taxi to Mannga Besar area, Lokasari plaza, Today Country to see if I can pick up a nice college student FL and ST upstairs for 270k./QUOTE]

By all accounts, Today Country is but the very feeblest and palest shadow of its former self. Wouldn't waste your time. Go to Hotel Travel instead for sweet young things (unlikely to be college students!) or Kartika, Berlian and others in the same area for older, experienced women and dirty fun.

I note you've booked yourself in for Stadium every night. Well, sure, if that's what you want. It's certainly a venue worth at least one visit ... although whether you'd want to go there every night for a week might be debateable. How about a trip down to Blok M in the late evening one night? At that time, traffic is light, and it's a $5/25 minute taxi drive. You say you don't mind not speaking the same language, fine, but Blok M is good for English speaking women, just for a change. And then, just for the full Jakarta experience, how about one of the hotel bars? I hesitated to recommend BATS, but it's possible and certainly cheaper than Alexis and pretty easy.

You seem very committed to staying in one area of Jakarta, the north. Jakarta isn't THAT bad to get around, particularly outside peak hours. And the North, in Kota, has a very distinct specific vibe that's okay ... you just aren't getting the full taste that you could get in five days ....

PS One more comment: "12 pm, Walk the streets of Manga Bessa looking for freebie or FL."

This is not necessarily a very good idea. At best, you just won't get laid. At worst, you could end up in serious trouble, either by hitting on some Chinese gangster's sister or, at best, picking up one of the notoriously unreliable moto girls on Jalan Hayam Wuruk. If you want to venture into freebie country, try a shopping mall ... and have a backup plan if it doesn't work.

Ceegee I tried to PM you but it says you can't receive one.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa]
11 pm - Stadium night club Takeout for 500-600k
. . .
11 pm - Stadium or similar, takeout for 500-600k [/QUOTE]

I think you have incorrect information: the takeout prices at the Stadium are much higher than stated. If I am not mistaken, they are about 1,500k rupiah.

Bule2004

[QUOTE=Sol111]Ceegee I tried to PM you but it says you can't receive one.[/QUOTE]I never signed up for a forum subscription, not keen on using my credit card in mongering related activities, therefore I can't receive PMs.

What did you want to talk about?

The night after my CJs report from a few posts ago, I decided that I would have a quiet night in, and ordered room service and a few beers. As the night wore on, I got more and more bored, so decided to call for an in room massage.

A reasonably cute little thing promptly rang the bell to my room, and we proceeded to start the massage. I must say, it was one of the worst massages I have had at the Mulia, they are usually pretty good, but this one just didn't have the pressure I like.

There was enough "accidental" touching early on to convince me that at least a happy ending would be on offer, perhaps more. On rollover, she continued the "accidental" touches, and since I did not discourage her she got more and more into it, eventually just directly applying some massage oil to my johnson.

She offered a happy ending for 700k, and full service for $200. Damn, pretty expensive, so I pulled out my best bahasa and tried to convince her that I was a local and that her prices where over the top. I eventually got her down to 500k for happy ending, and 1. 1 juta for full service.

I had to laugh when she told me that President's have given her $500 before for full service. I don't know what president of what country/company she was referring to, but I ended up going for the 1. 1 juta full service.

Unfortunately, and not surprisingly given hindsight, but the full service wasn't particularly good, she only did a covered blow job, and since she had been touching and fondling my balls during the massage I was as horny as a virgin in a *****house and dumped my load into her fairly quickly.

Note to self: Don't be such a lazy ass next time and go down to CJs and pick out a good one for 600k.

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One night at stadium is enough, unless you like looking for trouble.

The place is hard core, with rampant drugs and thugs.

Be careful there.

The price seems to vary - I've certainly had a good "takeout" for Rp900k - but only after negotiation

[QUOTE=Member #3088]Curious whether any Jakarta residents have experience or advice on keeping a mistress in jakarta? I am trying this now, and have a lovely young women stashed in an apt equidistant between office and apartment (I'm married) at a total cost of about 800 USD per month-300 for her apt and 500 per month for her. Sex is not GFE-but far far better than any GF I ever had. I enjoy the convenience for daytime fun, but realize that it would be cheaper to visit places like travel, etc. Anyone trying something similar or can advise on usual price, if such a thing exists?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Sorry for belated reply #3088, I have experience of "keeping a mistress" in Jakarta as some of my friends well know. You are certainly right in that there are cheaper options! Not that I have ever taken my own advice - but wouldn't it be better to just hire a hotel room? You don't mention the extras you have buy her either. The other key point is - and no offence meant at all - but you can be 100% certain she will be screwing other guys when you aren't there - which is one reason she manages on "only" 300k a month. As I say, I've ****ed away more money than I dare mention - it's a fool's game (no offence again!) but I will probably do it again.....

Hi

Wow, been ages since I posted here.

A few days back was in jakarta for a day. Read about hotel travel. Part 2 on one of the bahasa forums. There is a new place in classic hotel called terminal cafe. Classic hotel is in pasar baru east from gajah mada plaza. Being as it is I. E. Hotel travel part 2 the format is the same. Girls on sofas manned by their mamasans. Now the good part is. There is promo going on 1 girl for 240K and 2 girls 3some at 350K nett including the room, room by the way is fantastic, nice queen size bed with glass walled shower area, mirror on one side, 32" lcd tv. They also have shows at night.

The 2 girls you select have to be from the same group I. E. Wearing the same color outfit. I selected erna & mala from the blue colored beach wear group. 2nd sofa on the right as you enter the bar. Being the first time experiencing a 3some I may have been a little overwhelmed and did not walk away with an out of the world experience. Also there is zero interaction between the girls. So no girl-on-girl action, etc. Other mongers. YMMV! You get 1 hour in the room and 2 condoms (durex BTW).

Left with 50K tip to each. Total damages for the 1. 5 hours I was there was 525K including drinks and tip to mamasan.

I was there just before 5 pm and it was already buzzing. Go check it out boys.

Selamat sukses!

Ash

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[QUOTE=Bulai69]Sorry for belated reply #3088, I have experience of "keeping a mistress" in Jakarta as some of my friends well know. You are certainly right in that there are cheaper options! Not that I have ever taken my own advice. But wouldn't it be better to just hire a hotel room? You don't mention the extras you have buy her either. The other key point is. And no offence meant at all. But you can be 100% certain she will be screwing other guys when you aren't there. Which is one reason she manages on "only" 300k a month. As I say, I've ****ed away more money than I dare mention. It's a fool's game (no offence again!) but I will probably do it again.[/QUOTE]thanks, bulai69, all good and fair points. Hard to be rational when dealing with p****y, and no doubt I'm just another 50ish p****y loving bule who continues to deeply appreciate the options available in our fair city, but who sometimes makes some foolish decisions.

Was recently in BKK and had 3 nights with 3 girls so was keen to repeat on my most recent Jakarta trip. I'm quiete active in Tagged, DIA, Skype etc so I have no issues with making plans to meet ladies in most Asian countries and this was true for Jakarta.

Have been to Jakarta many times previously but this trip didn't want to do all the repeats but preferred to try new ladies.

The cast;

Ms W. 26 works near G Hyatt. Cute on cam and sent sweet sms before trip.

Ms M. 24 Looked ok on pics and had sent some near suggestive sms.

Ms E. 35. Had chatted with her last year but had forgotten her.

Ms F. 27 A lady I'd never met but calls me reguarly. Only working girl of the group.

Ms U. 22 student. Had met her 3 years previously for a 30 minute Starbucks encounter but we hadn't met since.

I'm a mid 50's guy and was in Jakarta for work but my schedule wasnt too demanding, deliberately.

The sequence:

Arrived and sent out some exploratory sms to a variety including the above. The plan was to meet Ms W for drinks and dinner.

However on arriving in hotel at noon, Ms E has said she was near hotel, remembered my face and could we meet. She came to hotel, nice short hair and quite cute look. We chatted then went to Kemang for a drink and played pool. Somewhere along the way we got kissing, and I figured she would be fun for the night. Back to hotel, then off to massage in Menteng Hotel.

In KL you are never sure if the girl will allow touching etc. In Jakarta the girl will always get naked and touching is expected. Thats why I love masage there. Anyways, at 6pm changed plans with Ms W to 2 days later and met Ms E.

We went for a few beers in Blok M bars then decided to go see Kings Cross in Kelapa Gading. Long long long way but with a horny girl in taxi time went fast. Nice place, very organised and was nice to see all the girls with tits out on stage. Girls were very Chinese Indonesian looking. Anyways my gal was telling me she was very horny so we left Kings X after an hour and headed back to my hotel.

Le Meridien hotel is very nice for "shows". So there we were at midnight with curtains open and my gal was happy to get naked with a few business types clearly watching. Lots fun.

8am took her to taxi, RP 100, 000 taxi fare and went to work.

Up for that night was Ms M. I didn't know what to expect but was knocked out when this really pretty cute gal gets out the taxi. 42 kgs, 24, wild hair, very small dress and long legs. Classy looking lady. We went to Immigrant and was great to see every guys head turn when we walked in. After some drinks, was obvious theres some mutual attraction. Back to hotel, played pool, had drinks then up to room. Miss M had told me she had a small boutique, but in room she told me shes actually a dancer and does naked shows for guys, in jakarta and Bali. Fine with me, I don't judge.

Had a lovely little toned body and a very hungry girl. I was dead by 3am but she started playing again at 7am. Anyways, took her to taxi in her little dress and high heels at 8. 30am with Rp 100, 000 taxi fare. She was also sweet enough to send me sms till I departed askng if we could meet again. And she would be happy to make dance show for me for free.

Work again and Ms W confirmed we would be meeting at 6pm.

After lunch contacted Ms U, the student to say hello. She said she was near hotel and was free from 3-6 so I invited her over. We had a beer or two and she was very funny and sweet. We discussed life and religion, andhow she had grown up from 19.22, then had a few kisses and got to see a delightful pair of sweet young breasts. Medium size, but nice and spongy and still pointing up at the sky.

As it got close to 6pm I told her I had to take shower and sure enough she had a look at me in shower. I told her Id like to see her the next morning to which she agreed.

Dropped her off with Rp 100, 000 taxi and went to lobby to wait for Ms W. One hour later no Ms W and no reply to sms or calls.

Hastily contacted Ms you and asked if we could meet after her classes. She agreed.

To fill the spare time Ms F came over. 40 kg, looked very smart in black dress, black stockings, red high heels etc. Very funny bubbly bouncy girl. Nice to be with. We stayed in room two hours, got naked, she gave an ok HJ as thats all I needed and I dropped her in Tiga Pulah withh RP 450, 000.

Then went and met Ms U, went to Kemang for a few hours, lots of jokes and smiles and went back to hotel for unlimited kisses. Something very nice about kissing a young student girl LOL.

Woke up next morning, had room service in bed, went out for shopping, back to room and more kissing, shower together then she sweetly came to airport with me. Rp 200, 000 for taxi fare home.

3 nights, 3 girls, small expenditure but huge satisfaction. Jakarta maybe a dump with bad traffic. But the girls, they are up there with Phils and Thailand for providing pleasing moments.

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[QUOTE=Ceegee]
Note to self: Don't be such a lazy ass next time and go down to CJs and pick out a good one for 600k.[/QUOTE]

I haven't taken a girl out of CJ's in years, but I would guess the price is higher than 600k these days. It was 600k 5 years ago.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]I haven't taken a girl out of CJ's in years, but I would guess the price is higher than 600k these days. It was 600k 5 years ago.[/QUOTE]They always start higher, but with a little negotiating in bahasa you can get them down to 600 it seems. Had another one that I haven't written up yet for 700k, couldn't be bothering wasting time trying to get the last 100k off, she had great tits and I wanted to get my hands on them.

Has anyone else been to this Terminal Cafe @ hotel classic? Is the promo still on? (I remember the prices @ Hotel classic to be much higher.)

[QUOTE=Ash Kay]Hi

Wow, been ages since I posted here.

A few days back was in jakarta for a day. Read about hotel travel. Part 2 on one of the bahasa forums. There is a new place in classic hotel called terminal cafe. Classic hotel is in pasar baru east from gajah mada plaza. Being as it is I. E. Hotel travel part 2 the format is the same. Girls on sofas manned by their mamasans. Now the good part is. There is promo going on 1 girl for 240K and 2 girls 3some at 350K nett including the room, room by the way is fantastic, nice queen size bed with glass walled shower area, mirror on one side, 32" lcd tv. They also have shows at night.

The 2 girls you select have to be from the same group I. E. Wearing the same color outfit. I selected erna & mala from the blue colored beach wear group. 2nd sofa on the right as you enter the bar. Being the first time experiencing a 3some I may have been a little overwhelmed and did not walk away with an out of the world experience. Also there is zero interaction between the girls. So no girl-on-girl action, etc. Other mongers. YMMV! You get 1 hour in the room and 2 condoms (durex BTW).

Left with 50K tip to each. Total damages for the 1. 5 hours I was there was 525K including drinks and tip to mamasan.

I was there just before 5 pm and it was already buzzing. Go check it out boys.

Selamat sukses!

Ash

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2 girls, 2 pops for 350k at Hotel Travel. I must say that's a damn good bargin. Unfortunatly I'm not in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Member #3088]thanks, bulai69, all good and fair points. Hard to be rational when dealing with p****y, and no doubt I'm just another 50ish p****y loving bule who continues to deeply appreciate the options available in our fair city, but who sometimes makes some foolish decisions.[/QUOTE]

That's me too - but like you I'm sure, I always know what I'm doing and I do anyway.......

Oh, and since I'll be in Jakarta for a few days. Which is the best place to find non-asian girls? (and whats the damage)

Malioboro, Classic, Alexis?

[QUOTE=Ash Kay]There is a new place in classic hotel called terminal cafe. Classic hotel is in pasar baru east from gajah mada plaza. Being as it is I. E. Hotel travel part 2 the format is the same. Girls on sofas manned by their mamasans. Now the good part is. There is promo going on 1 girl for 240K and 2 girls 3some at 350K nett including the room, room by the way is fantastic, nice queen size bed with glass walled shower area, mirror on one side, 32" lcd tv. They also have shows at night.QUOTE]

I never heard of this place before but I would like to try it when I am in town in 3 weeks. I googled and found this place. It sounds right, close to pasar baru, east of gajah mada etc but perhaps you can confirm if it is the right venue. Cant see reference to the Terminal Cafe.

[url]www.classichoteljakarta.com[/url]

Thanks

SK

[QUOTE=Smoothy]I haven't taken a girl out of CJ's in years, but I would guess the price is higher than 600k these days. It was 600k 5 years ago.[/QUOTE]I've pulled (or she pushed!) out of CJs for 600k this year. I had seen her before in Blok M, but she was nice, good body and good value in bed. She even takes trips to Singapore for Orchard Towers, so I was surprised she took the offer! So it is still possible.

Probably not with the hardened core of girls who go there every night though.

Yes this is the place/hotel where terminal cafe has "newly" opened. The 350K for 3some is part of their launch promotion so no idea how long it will last.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Sapperken][QUOTE=Ash Kay]There is a new place in classic hotel called terminal cafe. Classic hotel is in pasar baru east from gajah mada plaza. Being as it is I. E. Hotel travel part 2 the format is the same. Girls on sofas manned by their mamasans. Now the good part is. There is promo going on 1 girl for 240K and 2 girls 3some at 350K nett including the room, room by the way is fantastic, nice queen size bed with glass walled shower area, mirror on one side, 32" lcd tv. They also have shows at night.QUOTE]

I never heard of this place before but I would like to try it when I am in town in 3 weeks. I googled and found this place. It sounds right, close to pasar baru, east of gajah mada etc but perhaps you can confirm if it is the right venue. Cant see reference to the Terminal Cafe.

[url]www.classichoteljakarta.com[/url]

Thanks

SK[/QUOTE]

Well, I was planning to write a longer report after my visit to Jakarta, but I thought I'd share yesterdays experience.

After getting checked into Mercure Rekso (the Elevators are done.. yay - now you can actually enjoy a high-floor room), I went to Hotel Travel. Having been there a few times last year, I was looking forward to it. - Last year I met some very playful, cute girls there.

This time, however, was a disappointment - although thats mostly my own fault:
I went directly to the second room 'cause just when I got there, a big group of chinese businessmen arrived at Hotel Travel and settled in the first room. When Mama asked me, what kind of girl I wanted, I asked for a girl without baby, which she brought back to me - a real stunner! I should've sent here away right away, though, when I saw the look on her face when she realized I was a bule. Well.. she DID look really good, and when we had a drink, she seemed to be friendly enough.

Back in the room however, she turns out to be a bad choice... not only did she spend more time looking in the mirror than actually doing anything, she also didnt want to do BJ AND after ten minutes, she started to complain about the heat and took a shower.. then came back and asked for tip. Well.. I'm not used to being asked for a tip after ten minutes, but I offered 100k (the performance so far was worth next to nothing) and she just shakes her head and refuses to do anything.. well, that was it for me and I decided it wasnt worth the trouble and left.

Old rule applies.. dont take girls that seem hesitant.

At 9pm I decided that I could let the day end like this and went to Top Gun. - Good decision!

When I arrived (around 10pm), there were a lot of real stunners and almost no guys around. I ordered a beer and even before I got it, I was "chosen" by a 35kg cutie ;) - it was more like she was going to barfine me than me trying to pick someone up. - Tiny little thing, but nice breasts, and very friendly. Although there were a lot of other real stunners around, I just went with it. She said, she was 22 (well - I'd guess mid twenties) and after some playful bargaining I settled for 650k for the night - well spent 650k! Back in the hotel, she did whatever I wanted and she did so very willingly. She just left (I've to go to a meeting later)... and I'm very relaxed ;)

Conclusion: Always take the girl that comes to you on her own account!

Lets see what today brings.

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[QUOTE=Lala Bay]
Back in the room however, she turns out to be a bad choice... not only did she spend more time looking in the mirror than actually doing anything, she also didnt want to do BJ AND after ten minutes, she started to complain about the heat and took a shower.. then came back and asked for tip. Well.. I'm not used to being asked for a tip after ten minutes, but I offered 100k (the performance so far was worth next to nothing) and she just shakes her head and refuses to do anything.. well, that was it for me and I decided it wasnt worth the trouble and left.

Old rule applies.. dont take girls that seem hesitant.[/QUOTE]

I personally find Hotel Travel to be a crap venue for bules to visit in general due to the attitudes of the girls there. I am a bule and I have never had good service there. My chinese and indo friends tell me they have good experiences there and they love going there since it's cheap, but at Hotel Travel I have almost always had girls similar to what you described here. And I speak bahasa! In my opinion, even though there are many attractive girls at travel, there are much better venues for bules than that one.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]I personally find Hotel Travel to be a crap venue for bules to visit in general due to the attitudes of the girls there. I am a bule and I have never had good service there. My chinese and indo friends tell me they have good experiences there and they love going there since it's cheap, but at Hotel Travel I have almost always had girls similar to what you described here. And I speak bahasa! In my opinion, even though there are many attractive girls at travel, there are much better venues for bules than that one.[/QUOTE]

I've come around to agreeing with that. I was really lucky the first time I went there, when I met Dede from the very first couch as you walk in. Lovely girl, friendly, cute 19, good attitude. But almost all of the others have been mediocre at best - even when the Mami asks what kind of girl I want, I always just say "One who's friendly and cool with Bules." I don't think I can be bothered going back. Shame, because unlike most knocking shops tout simple, it's open til late at night ...

[QUOTE=Lala Bay]

Back in the room however, she turns out to be a bad choice... not only did she spend more time looking in the mirror than actually doing anything, she also didnt want to do BJ AND after ten minutes, she started to complain about the heat and took a shower.. then came back and asked for tip. Well.. I'm not used to being asked for a tip after ten minutes, but I offered 100k (the performance so far was worth next to nothing) and she just shakes her head and refuses to do anything.. well, that was it for me and I decided it wasnt worth the trouble and left.

Old rule applies.. dont take girls that seem hesitant.
[/QUOTE]

Did you tell the mamasan? You should have told her that you will tell your bule friends not to consult her again.

Smoothy, you know I'm not a bule but alas, I share your experience. Of all the girls I visited there, there was only one who gave me satisfaction. And I think that's because I knew her already from the time when she was working on Jl. Industri 9-11.

Hello JKT ISG, I just got into town on my virgin trip to JKT yesterday and hit the ground running, here is my first report:


Arrival:
The CGK airport immigration sucks. I am assured that this is typical. Plan 2 hours of standing in line. Visa on arrival is exactly $25 USD. Check the list online to make sure VOA applies to your country. Bring that exactly $25 USD in cash. No photos are required for this visa. Look to your left as you come into the arrivals area, and it's before immigration. Hit the bathroom on the right, while you are there. You are liable to spend a long time in the line for immigration clearance. Best to not do it with your legged crossed and eyes floating.

General Impressions so far:

The people on the streets and in the stores are generally friendly. You can walk around, if you are experienced in walking in such areas elsewhere in the world. The main danger is from the motoboys and cars, which make the streets very difficult and unsafe and cross. Jakarta reminds me of Sao Palo, but cheaper and the people on the streets are friendlier. I would have already been knifed and robbed in Sao Paulo from walking around in such back alleys.

Hotel:
Hotel Mercure on Hayum Wuruk, Manga Bessa area. Its oft reported here and I find it nice enough, Hotel Travel is close, Kartika/Berlain is even closer. You could stay just right here for a week and never run out of pussy. Walking is difficult and Bluebird cabs are cheap, and its hot as hell. If you want to go somewhere, have the hotel people call you a Blue Bird.

Hotel Travel:

I hit this place yesterday about 5 pm. Dog tired from 'sleeping' on the floor in the SIN airport from 1AM-8AM, but decided to session right away if my little friend would agree. I arrived there on foot, the directions have been posted here before, but I recommend a taxi because it cheap, safer than walking through traffic, and you arrive clean and not sweaty.

Go in the door on the left and they give you a wristband with a number, just like the termas in Rio and Sao Paulo. You walk back through and come to a counter where you can get water or beer. A big bottle of Guiness is about 50k. Sit at a table and Mama will assign a girl to you from the 4 pools of maybe 6 girls each. I was assigned a really good one and took her back for the 300k hour session.

Girl: Rena
Age: 23
From: Somewhere in Java, says she has been working there 7 weeks.
This girl was probably 8,5/10. Really nice attitude, barely any English. Wears a cross around her neck but says she's Muslim. I am used to fucking good (so naughty) Catholic latinas and unpredictable Buddhist/Shinto J-girls, so this was where I got my Muslim cherry popped. I took her back and we showered, got down to DFK which she really liked and then went into BBBJ. Deepest and most honest-effort deep throat gobble that I've seen anywhere, but she could only do it for about 30 seconds at a time. After about 10 minutes she rimmed my ass, which I didn't ask for but still appreciate. Then FS, then BBBJ where she artfully dodged the money shot and only got a little taste. Cum dodging pisses me off, but I still would call it a good session, especially for the quality of the girl, the rim job, and good fuck.

Berlain:

The directions have been posted here before in the Kartika posts. Stopped in here about 6 pm and papa showed my his staff. Probably about 10 girls, 2 were lookers and he tried to set me up with those. 260k for 1 hour and they close at 9 pm. I was even more dead tired from the hell night in SIN and from just having busted nut at Hotel Travel, so decided to check this out later in the trip.

Blok M:

Later I met up with Sol111, who is both a gentleman and a monger and has provided some mentoring to me. We hit BlokM by taxi at about 9:30 or so. Top Gun, D's, MyBar and the like were pretty dead. Later, about 11 pm all the places started to fill up. The quality of the girls here is lower in general than what I saw in Hotel Travel, but on par with Berlain. The girls were generally hardcore. Most girls would not agree to photos, most would not agree to anal, and most of the others wanted to be taken with their friend for a 2 girl 600k ST.

The places were clearing out and I was losing out due to the girls holding a hard line on services, then Sol111 played matchmaker in MyBar and hooked me up with an older one, 6/10 who said she would do anything. Can't remember the name. 350k short term. A little above the norm, and yeah the price should be dropping, but I will pay ~$5USD more for honest good service. Took her back to the Mercure via 30 minute taxi ride. Lots of DFK, excellent BBBJ, and BBFS every which way. Fucked her for about 3 hours straight (artificially enhanCed). Took photos which I will post. Ended with CIM which seemed to catch her off guard and she didn't care for a lot.

So after about 3 hours, she cleared out. Said she works at a hairsalon 2 hours from Manga Bessa, from the morning until 7 pm and had to get back. No problem, I was spent and tired as hell. Gave her 150k for a tip and taxi fare back to Blok M area and did her walk of shame, then off to get some much needed sleep.

So endeth my report for the first day. Not too bad. Arrived at the hotel at ~2 pm and got a couple of nice sessions in on the cheap. So far, I like JKT just fine and love the 300k ST's. I thrive in the ST knock shop scene, so appreciate that there are quite a few in Manga Bessar and they are cheap with some real lookers in the mix. Find it weird that girls wipe their mouths so much during BBBJ, girls up in Japan were sucking up my cum like crazy just days ago, so I know there is no funk, but oh well.

Just a quick follow-up on Hotel Travel.

Went there again today, early afternoon (around 1pm) as my flight was in the early evening and I wanted to give it another try.

Not many girls there, but I stayed in the first room, had a coke and waited. Mama came, asked if I wanted a girl (lucky me I picked up at least a few words of Bahasa. Even though in KL. As she didn't speak English!): Yes please, one that doesn't mind bules.

Mama came back with a very Indonesian (dunno if you get the meaning. Just looked the way that I consider very Indonesian) girl, slim, and friendly. No hesitation on her part. As there were not many other girls anyway and I didn't have much time, I decided to give it a try.

Good experience. Playful girl, very tight (definitely didn't have a baby.). Not GFE as you get it in the Philippines, but very willing to have some fun.

Overall a much better experience than the last time and I happily tipped her plenty (had too many IDR left anyway).

Still unsure about Hotel Travel. You CAN have a good time with very cute, young girls for cheap. But I guess you have to choose wisely or just be lucky.

Well, next week I'll be in AC for a few days. Philippines is IMHO still the best place to enjoy yourself.

I haven’t posted for long time, as I’m new to Jakarta and Indonesia. I have spent time learning how to get around and I have read and learned a lot from this thread. A lot of helpful information can be found. Thank you to all those contributors.

I don’t know whether my contribution can be helpful, as I don’t think I provide any news, but this is my experience so far:

CJ at hotel Mulia
Nice place with good live music performance, but the band/stage takes up to much space and environment. The music is too loud, so you hardly can communicate with your friends or others. I have tendency to tinnitus, so I have also problem in this way. Drinks are expensive too. The were 15-20 WGs, when I was there. Many of them were rather old looking and little attractive. I spotted a few young hotties but didn’t make any contact, as I went there with my first local gf.

Tiga Puluh, hotel Le Meridien
Nice place with live music similar to CJ, but not so entertaining. I think it is waste of time if you look for WGs. I only spend 1 hour there, so my report is based on this short time experience.

Blok M
Top Gun and My Bar is so far my best places to go if looking for company. Have meet several girls there and taken home for LT. Most of the times it has been successful, but 3-4 times it has been a miss. My experience was that the later I waited with choosing, there higher was the risk for a miss. Price for LT is 300k-500k + tip.
D’s place is more quiet even they have some pole dancing and VIP room. The VIP room is if you want some naked lapdancing or BJ in public. A little special and crazy.

Hotel Travel
Nice place, which is most frequented by Asian men. I have been there 4 times and saw only 1-2 Western guys there. You to like the karaoke style to go there. I been living in China and been to KTVs (also the naughty ones), so it doesn’t bother me. Most of the girls seem to arrive around 5-6pm. My estimate is that there can be up to 100-150 girls. The girls are average in looking with a few gems. It is difficult to see who is good looking, as the girl are sitting all of the time and is only standing up, when they are going to a costumer. I always pick a girl from the groups at the music hall just inside the entrance. The girls in the billiard hall on the back looked more boring and lees attractive to me. Pay 300k for girl and room in front to the mamasan (in cash) and I tip 100k to the girl if service is excellent. I was only disappointed once. Then I had chosen a girl by myself without the mamasan involvement, and the girl turned out to be a disaster, very ignorant. My recommendation is to let the mamasan help you with choosing the girl. I always buy a large Guiness beer for 50k, which gives more value for money, than if you buy a Heineken or Bintang. Then of some lady drink to girl before we choose what to do. I try to find some dark places in the hall, where we can sit and fell each other. You can take your drinks to the room.
On the evening I had the disaster girl, I took another girl later to overcome by bad experience, and she turned out to be totally opposite. At lot of kissing and teasing. Did all the nice thing; licking, bbbj, rimming, liked DATY a lot. She was so nice that I did her twice this evening before I went home with her mobile no.

Maribuya Spa at hotel Melawai
Went there only once. The place for me is soso. You enter a bar with around 15 girls, older than at hotel Travel, but they have much more attention on you. I went there around 5 pm and was the only guy there. I picked one girl with a nice smile. The cost is 450k (you pay when you leave) + tip to girl. The room looked old and worn and needed refurbishment. The girls performance was excellent, and she later visited me in my home. I don’t like the environment at Maribuya Spa.

I know have a lot of places to see and try yet (Stadium, Malioboro, Sumo, Alexis etc.), but as I go alone to these places, I need to feel comfortable (which means safe and in the mood) before I go. So I do a lot of checking on the internet about the areas before I do it.

Jakarta is definitely a nice place to be. When I moved here I was in doubt, as I have had plenty of this comfort in China. I thought it was downhill. So it was a great wonderful surprise to me to experience how good the leisure options in Jakarta are and also to feel how sweet Indonesian girls are.

Schubba

I will be in JKT again soon and Red Square is on my shortlist (24 april anyone?).
Is it any good ? I haven't read much about it here ;-)
And is it easy to find a good taxi back home ? or is it like blok M ??

Regards,
Mark

[QUOTE=MarkIII]I will be in JKT again soon and Red Square is on my shortlist (24 april anyone?).
Is it any good ? I haven't read much about it here ;-)
And is it easy to find a good taxi back home ? or is it like blok M ??

Regards,
Mark[/QUOTE]

I was taken there after BATS closed by a couple of prospects (which turned out to be my worst adventure to=date). I imagine that there is a big attraction for younger generation. I am approaching 50 and although I like to think I am still young in mind and body I found this club loud with 'dance' music and crammed with young people, plenty of local totty. I couldn't move and couldn't hear so not for me.

It was still open for an hour or more after BATS closed. Although I transported by my date I recall quite a lot of taksi activity around. I hope I'm not mistaken.

I'm interested to hear how you get on. That's my last day of my trip and I have an AE freebie date lined up who doesn't do clubs, prefers to stay in the room to party:-)

Have fun

SK

Eureka, finally I have found them. One each in basement of Plaza Semangii, Senayan City, and Plaza FX, all of which are close to the Atlet Century. One day turnaround will cost me $14 for 5 days clothes, as opposed to last year's bill at the Atlet for 3x that price. The one in FX is underground level, right next to the ATM's, east entrance (Surdiman).

[QUOTE=MarkIII]I will be in JKT again soon and Red Square is on my shortlist (24 april anyone?).
Is it any good ? I haven't read much about it here ;-)
And is it easy to find a good taxi back home ? or is it like blok M ??

Regards,
Mark[/QUOTE]

Red Square isn't mentioned much here because too many people here would stand out like a sore thumb in that place. It's a REGULAR nightclub/disco, which means you can't go walking around in your sandals, shorts and hawaiian shirt with your big gut sticking out so far you can't see your penis.

Red Square was famous for attracting fairly regular Indo girls who had an interest in bule dick. Most of the bules you'll see in there will be younger guys dressed up for a club scene, so ask yourself - can I compete in such an environment?

(and yes, people dance and party to that "loud and awful club music" that geezers often mistakenly refer to as "techno".)

if so, then by all means go for it, though I now hear Red Square is a mere shell of its former self and there is some hooker infestation on the premises..

which I suppose might mean it'll soon became the official board HQ in Jakarta.
p)

extraordinarily easy to get a taxi home from Red Square. It's in a big shopping mall area.


p.s. Sapperken, this post isn't at all directed at you individually. In your case, I will merely say that if you find/found Red Square not to your liking and the music not to your liking, then you'll need to reconsider that idea about being younger than 50 in mind and in body. The scene/music in RS will be replicated in just about any hopping normal club anywhere, so if you really felt like the "old man at the bar", then perhaps you really were. I'm not saying this with malice, just cold honest truth.

Hey,

During my stay in Jakarta last week, I wanted to try one of it's Jakarta's services.

After a some research in this forum, I decided to check out Alexis Hotel.

I am staying in Mulia hotel, I drive to Alexis was arroung 35 minutes.

Alexis Hotel is a quite strange looking hotel. The idea of the hotel is a 7 floor entertainment place, with all floor his function.

First had a security check. In the reception area at the left is the nightclub, only opening at 11pm. The elevators are behind the reception desk.

I am travelling alone, so this was all quite overwelming and new for me. I know by this forum I should go to the 7th floor. Almost at the elevator, a (probably gay) guy called me and said to me to go to the 5th floor, only 1. 900.000 mio rp for good girl. I had a strange idea about this, because I should go to the spa at the 7th, so I ignored that guy and lift op to 7th.

Wow, never seen this before in my life. First you go by the lockers, I said I only wanted to see first. The I entered the main room. Like a big bar with different "corners" were you can choose girls. There are white girls, Chinese girls, thai girls and local girls. (total more then 60 girls) After you sit down near to one of those corners, a 'waiter' comes to you to order drink. The another person come and asks you what kind of girl you like. I was into Chinese, I said, so al 25 Chinese girls come standing in front of me. Ooh my god. All like 8 to 9 girls. I chose a cute one and she came over sitting with me. I stayed with her in the bar for 5 min and then went to the rooms on the 5th floor.

Fuck for 1 hour, and then I went back to the bar. There I stayed for 1 more hour, looking to al the scene.

Actually, the best thing to do is: (and next time I will do soo.)

You enter the 7th floor and get undressed. You will get a towel etc etc.

The go to the bar and go sit and relax a bit. Order some drinks and look to the girls (you can walk arround with your drink). After you find a girl, try to remember the number she is wearing. Ask the waiter for the group of girls where your target is, to present themselfs. They will come to you, and pick your girl then. Then you can go to the spa with your girl and have some massage in the jacuzi and then have a fuck in the room

The good thing about alexis is that you can put every service on your bill and pay by credit card. "AHS" will appear on your statement, you can even have it like a company cost., even the tip of the girl. Everything comes with his prices of course, total damage was 2, 3 mil. But is was worth doing that.

Next time I will stay there a bit longer and have some more view at the girls, because I choose to quickly.

If you have any questions, I am the Alexis expert now.

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[QUOTE=Catire]
p.s. Sapperken, this post isn't at all directed at you individually. In your case, I will merely say that if you find/found Red Square not to your liking and the music not to your liking, then you'll need to reconsider that idea about being younger than 50 in mind and in body. The scene/music in RS will be replicated in just about any hopping normal club anywhere, so if you really felt like the "old man at the bar", then perhaps you really were. I'm not saying this with malice, just cold honest truth.
[/QUOTE]

Hahahaha, no offence taken Catire, it's just another of those situations that make me more aware of the advancing years. Of course I am still 18 in my head and in my boxer shorts.

Luckily that sort of club situation doesn't crop up too often for me so I can put it to the back of my mind and still consider myself young at heart :-)

SK

[QUOTE=Axelduc]Hey,

The good thing about alexis is that you can put every service on your bill and pay by credit card. "AHS" will appear on your statement, you can even have it like a company cost., even the tip of the girl. Everything comes with his prices of course, total damage was 2, 3 mil. But is was worth doing that.

2.3 Juta for a hour w/PRC WG. And your happy as a clam. What can we say?
You just paid the highest price posted to date. I'll not say more.
RL

What was said before about Red Sq being a place for youngsters is true. Having said that, if u look the part this club along with others like Dragonfly, Blowfish and Social House attracts a lot of hot non-pro babes.

I'm Asian & fairly fit for my mid 30's. On more than one occation have I been approached by regular girls inviting me to afterparties, wanting to dance, or invite me to go with them to another party venue. Last time it was a 23 y o airline stewardess (she had photos of herself in uniform on her HP to back that claim) who invited me to her birthdayparty 2 days later. I took her up on that & had a great time as her short term fuck buddy. Only in Jakarta!

[QUOTE=Asian MP Lover]What was said before about Red Sq being a place for youngsters is true. Having said that, if u look the part this club along with others like Dragonfly, Blowfish and Social House attracts a lot of hot non-pro babes.

I'm Asian & fairly fit for my mid 30's. On more than one occation have I been approached by regular girls inviting me to afterparties, wanting to dance, or invite me to go with them to another party venue. Last time it was a 23 y o airline stewardess (she had photos of herself in uniform on her HP to back that claim) who invited me to her birthdayparty 2 days later. I took her up on that & had a great time as her short term fuck buddy. Only in Jakarta![/QUOTE]

Precisely. You can even be in your forties, but dress appropriately (aka nightclub wear) and look/feel comfortable in the environment and you'll probably do OK, there are plenty of women in their upper twenties and thirties in there as well.

the type of music played (trance and progressive) should feel perfectly comfortable to anyone even into their fifties. Cool underground clubs in major urban centers in the USA were playing house music, and even early rap going back so far as the early eighties. If you liked house as a club hopping twenty something, you'll still like progressive./trance into your fifties, unless your tastes have drastically changed.

Last week I arrived at Jakarta's airport after midnight from Bali. After a few minutes of competing with locals for a Bluebird taxi, I walked over to a waiting bus to ask where it went. Was told to the Gambir train station for 20k. I said cool 'cause that's close to Jaksa. Once there I ignored all the Pulaski and the sloppy looking green cabs to flag down a Bluebird. A few minutes later and 14k had me at Jaksa. So that was 34k it cost which I was happy about.

What I wasn't happy about was that every hostel and hotel was full on that street. That's when the sweet 'n chunky girl "rescued" me to her room for the rest of the night so I wouldn't be homeless (with all the other hookers out there willing to snag me). Off I went but I was too tired to finish a fuck with her until later that day. She still wanted 300k which I wasn't excited about, but at least that included the room until I got my own.

[QUOTE=Bobisee]She still wanted 300k which I wasn't excited about, but at least that included the room until I got my own.[/QUOTE]

Hahaha! Even on Jaksa, 300k for a room for the night with a girl thrown in for free isn't a bad deal - although perhaps you could have negotiated for the price to include breakfast?

okay guys, here is a followup to my part 1 report. [post]1004688[/post]

ahh, jakarta, i love thee. i don't know where to start so i'll just blow my load and see where it lands. duck and cover! :)

hotel travel session 2:

got there about 12:30 pm, friday, having experienced a good time with rena before as indicated in [post]1004688[/post] and hoping for more new equivalent flesh. the place was not open. a couple girls were being dropped off via scooter and just going in in street clothes. the bellhop/pimp (difference?) told me to just wait in the adjacent hotel lobby and he would let me know when the doors opened. i waited there along with an indon monger and we both went in at 1 pm. so we went in, i grabbed a 50k big bottle of guiness and had a seat to watch the girls preen on the couch, lotion up to a shine, and apply their ho paints. about 1:30 mama assigned a girl to me, poppy (sic?). she spoke no english whatsoever, but was looking nice so met the basic requirements. she would not smoke or drink with me, so i should have known better. a health conscious p4p is rarely a gfe.

i called mama over, gave her 300k and then off to the room. no kissing, she indicated it was because i had beer breath. started bbbj, then cfs, then bbbj for a finish...but i saw that she was going shallow in prep to dodge the cim, so i kept my body muscles relaxed to keep her from reading ques and then shot without tension warning. about half went in her mouth and she was pissed. she spat the wad from the bed toward the trash can and it hit the wall..about 5 feet away!! hilarious..and then she started gagging and spitting on the bed and cursing at me in indon and then ran into the shower and started rinsing for the better part of 5 minutes. after session, she displayed her bilingual skills by saying "money." i was pissed about being treated like scum with no kissing and no cim, so i indicated no tip cause no smooch-smooch and no milk. i could see she was about to go apeshit, so i offered her a 10k, which she refused and stormed out of the room. i was thinking that i have probably just ruined my rep at hotel travel.

berlain:

last time i reported that i had checked out berlain last thursday and found a couple of lookers there. so friday i returned at about 6 pm, after recovering from the emotional trauma of ht's poppy (poopy!) and, to both papa and mamas glee, decided to session there. papa is shaking my hand, mama is rubbing my ass cheek, very funny there. to get there from mercure, hang a left, cross the big street without getting smashing into street pancake, and look to you left for the alley. back alley mongering, and walking through filth and stench to get there, makes me feel downright randy, so i entered with good intentions of sessioning here at the low end of jkt mainstream prices.

i was the only monger in the place and there were about 10 girls loading the furniture. i took the girl named annie, probably about 25 yrs, lean and 8/10. very spirited. 260k/60 minutes. started out with a brief junk shower, bbbj in the shower, and then off to the bed/mat with a bucket for soapy massage. had about 10 minutes of this massage, front and back..very nice. then we got off the bed/mat, she wiped it dry and installed the sheet. then onto the sheet for more bbbj, very nice, and finally cfs in several positions for the remaining 30 minutes. i had forgotten my trojans and was squeezed into the indon vise grip condoms, so lost wood once. she ripped the condom off and started sucking for dear life, then went to great trouble to get the same condom back on. weird to me, as most of the girls in other places i monger are very conscientious about condom integrity and no-reapplication/new condom. finally, off with the condom, bbbj and a hj finish. hj is not my thing, but for 260k with soapy i can let good enough alone. left there and papa gave me his personally autographed business card and shook my hand. not a bad deal.

today country:

dropped by at 11:30 am on a saturday. the bartender was there but the lights were mainly off and it was empty.

hotel travel session 3:

dropped by at 1 pm on saturday. pulled rena from the pool for a repeat of pp jkt report part 1. i never, ever do repeats but i really like this girl. smoker, drinker, asshole rimmer, what's more to love? so, as before, she sat down and started drinking beer with me and chain smoking her dunhill menthols. starts asking me the same questions as 2 days prior, "when do you go back to bangkok", "oh, you no live in bangkok"...haha, i am half cracking up because she thinks every white guy in mangga besar must be a bkk resident sex fiend, and half scared because i don't know whether i should be fucking something that dudes that lay down 1k thais per year have been fucking. :)

that said, i laid down another 300k and off to the room. dfk, nipples, tongue down the sides, ballwork, ass rimming, bbbj..then she went legs up and was ready to be fucked. hmm. this is a departure from the last cfs session. she had a condom on the table but didn't seem to care about it, so i went daty and straight bareback mish. bbfs is not something that i have ever done in p4p outside jakarta and not something that makes me feel good the next day...but that pussy looked fine, nice and cute and manicured. i hope to god it is clean. so i fucked her bareback for a while but was really bottoming out. she can take it well, but wears out quickly on a given thing. so she got me down and went to cowgirl, hooked her toes on the insides of my legs and would take it all the way up until it grinded and slipped across her cervix or whatever the firm feeling part way inside is called. so effectively she is jacking me off with this by grinding/swirling my dick head around her cervix, and occasionally going up and down clamping with her pussy muscles. i am in heaven at this point. so i shot my load very deep in there, and then she just slid down on my dick keeping it inside as i spazzed out the last of the load. then she leaned over and grabbed a cigarette, and smoked the cigarette until my dick got limp inside her. then she grabbed a kleenex and wiped the cum off the outside of her pussy and kicked back to enjoy the rest of the cigarette and drink my can of guiness. :) gfe.

blok m:

i moved from mercure to amaris, hoping to try my hand at being a bargirl monger instead of a fuckshack monger. i don't recommend amaris. the price is low at 435k but the room is very basic, water is not hot, and the room ac cannot cool the room in an hour. the mercure is only max 590k and is someplace i feel better about bringing a girl to, bigger, cleaner, cool. at amaris, you avoid taxi fares to mangga, but can you get a good fuck if you have to wait an hour for the room to reach 90 f?

saturday night, 11 pm, met with sol111 for some comraderie and skirt chasing. made the circuit and was picked off by a ~24 yr girl in top gun who would follow me everywhere. she was fairly hammered already, singing at the top of her lungs and walking as if her first time in heels. so i thought to buy her and additional beer to finish the job and lowball her at 200k for a complete package. my mistake..i was being played. 2 beers later we are over at mybar, she is dancing for hours like the energizer bunny and then decides that she wants 500k st. i walked and told her to see me at tg when she was ready to go home with 300k fs with pics or 200k fs no pics instead of going home with nada. so i worked some other girls, and they all want too much, or want to go 'with friend'...and i walk from all them. and i waited, and i waited, and i waited, until 4:30 am when mybar finally closed down. at the mad dash, i started to walk out the door and the girl saw me and grabbed me by the shirt..'okay. 300k, we go to your hotel' another girl was trying to push her aside and take me for 300k, and an older one who had been bothering me all night (and bothering sol111 too) offered fs st for 10k in desperation. i almost had to laugh.

so i got the dancing singing girl to the amaris (which no taxi driver has ever heard of) and we went to the room. she said, "you pay me now". i said no, you perform and then you get paid. she was pissed. i said that i had told her hours ago "200k no pics, 300k with pics"..she went ballistic! "why you want to take pictures of me? to sell them on the internet, pictures of my body on the fucking internet" (like someone would pay for them..lol). so she put her shoes back on and i said "get the hell out of my room, we had a deal, fucking leave now then" and opened the door and pointed the way out. she said 'you give me money, you give me taxi money! 20 thousand, no 60 thousand" i said 'get the fuck out of my room" so she looked around for something to grab as compense and started to steal an energy drink and a half pack of cigarettes from the table. i grabbed the drink but she had a death grip on the cigarettes and i thew 10k on the bed which she snatched and i started to corral her back to the door. she is protesting that her home is 20k taxi fare away. i said get the fuck out now, damn it! so she is holding the door open from the hallway yelling about how i am sick and want to sell pictures of her body on the internet....this is at 5 am in the morning and continued for maybe 2 minutes of yelling and trying to shove herself in the door so i couldn't close it. finally i said, "if you ever see me again, don't even say a fucking word to me. then she said 'i never want to see you again, you try to take pictures of my body...so she continued trying to push back into the room and yelling about pictures..i thought that i was going to get arrested for breaking some islamic law or some shit,so i pulled 10k more from my pocket and thew it into the hallway and she went after it and i slammed the door shut.

damn, this was enough blok m for me. the next day i moved back to mangga besaar where things are nice and simple. down in the dirty streets, dropping in a shack at random and fucking like an animal without any of this drama, just my style.

Okay guys, here is a followup to my Part 2 report. [post]1006826[/post]


Hotel Travel Session 4:


Dropped by about 5 PM. Pulled Rena from the pool for some more GFE BBFS. I had become addicted, what is happening to me? I never session any other girl more than once anywhere, on principle. And just like the 2 times before, she starts asking me the same questions, "when do you go back to Bangkok", "oh, you no live in Bangkok?" "why you no live in Bangkok?"...I am thinking this girl was just born with one program and no escape button. But she's damn good at that program.

So the session is GFE BBFS pumping her full of seed just like before. Nothing more can be said. At the end, she asked me how I don't go bankrupt fucking her so much. Very funny that she doesn't know how cheap her pussy is to the rest of the world. I laughed and pointed at her ho purse and told her to go buy a Mercedes-Benz with much money earned from me.

At this point, my junk is starting to feel like fire and I was feeling like flying home. I am not wondering where it came from, all of us make our decisions here and have to live with them..or drink them away..so I drank about 4 big bottles of Bintang and passed out in my hotel room.


Hotel Travel Session 5:


I arrived to pull my addiction from the pool, 1 pm at her starting time, but she was not there. I was in a hurry, so took a girl named Mila back. The service was horrible. Started out BBBJ and then fucked like a zombie. I couldn't get in the mood and would just lose wood partially due to the Indon condom which squeezes me, but mainly because I am not very excitable unless I get some interaction. So she would suck it hard and then I'd get bored and lose it. Finally I told her to get down and finish "slurpy", which is the only 'English' she seemed to know. Now she insisted on a condom and wouldn't back down. I pulled it off and nudged her head down but she wouldn't take it BBBJ. So I flipped her mish for about 1 minute, faked orgasm and we left.

Now when we arrived to the karakoke club, Rena has finally decided to come into work and is waving at me and running at me. Mila takes off in the other direction and Rena is pissed. She says 'why you no take me?'. I said, 'You weren't here, I called for you" So I checked my watch and had time for a session before heading to CGK. I gave mama another 300k and off we went. Once we got to the room, Rena is still pissed about the other girl having taken me up, even though I am now paying her after all and it's all the same financially whether I had been with Mila or not. Maybe there is some competitive spirit amongst hos here like in Latin America that goes beyond the cash?

So now Rena says 'no fuck', 'you Mila fuck', 'now me no fuck you.' 'liar, you understand liar? you are liar...."

She is over there slacking and watching TV smoking a cigarette. So I grabbed her cigarette and took her clothes off and had to carry her over and stand her in the shower. The whole time she is going off about Mila, saying 'me name is Mila. Mila me fuck you, Rena no fuck you, you no fuck Rena'

So once she got out of the shower I put her onto the bed and we started the usual GFE stuff, but once I shot my load in her, she was sitting on top of me with my dick still in and starting the Mila talk again, so I pulled out and showered. She showered and got dressed . Then started the same shit talking again, so I went and got my camera and distracted her. She was hesistant about the pictures, but eventually agreed. After that, she doing kiss shots and stuff like that, so I will post some of the pics over in the pic thread so people can see which one she is.

So that was my mongering in Jakarta. I really disappointed myself by not taking more girls, I would typically take 2-3 everyday, but I was dealing with technical and health issues while being in a new city, so won't beat myself up over it too bad.

Overall, Jakarta really impressed me. The people in the Mangga Besar area were very friendly, the pussy is cheap, the food is good, BBBJ and even BBFS are not hard to get for those who want it. Blok M bars are fun places to hang out, and maybe session a girl if the mood strikes. I would come back if the opportunity presented itself again. I always compare to Rio, the mecca in my mind. I would say it is a decent substitute, at half the price. If someone was staying for an extended period of time, from Europe or the East USA, they could come here instead of Rio and be completely happy with having made that decision even if the flight price to CGK is higher.

Just some Mangga Besar logistics to help people out.

1 Use bluebird taxis, signs are sometimes different on the door but look for the bluebird group web address on the front top of the windshield and it's all the same. They are metered and won't rip you off. Silverbird is fine too, but not worth the extra money since the BB cars are nice and clean as well.

2 Hotel Mercure Rekso. Maybe not the cheapest, but the best value. Nice and central to all the action, plus cab drivers know where it is, so it saves you money in 'lost taxi driver' fares. Are these guys from Jakarta or Chicago? They haven't even heard of places like Amaris or Traveler's Hotel. If they get too lost and rack up charges beyond reason, give them less than the meter fare and get out of the cab.

3 There is an ATM just to the right of the Mercure hotel in the loop driveway.

4 Come out of Mercure, back to hotel, walk to sidewalk, turn left , cross the big street and there is an Indo and Alfa Market where you can buy beer, smokes, and other instruments of destruction.

5 Come out of Mercure, back to hotel, walk to sidewalk, turn right , look to the right when you are beside the Jayakarta Hotel. Imperial Chef Restaurant. It is nice and has any kind of South East Asian food you want

6 Come out of Mercure, back to hotel, walk to sidewalk, turn right , keep walking until you see LTC/Glodok on your right. You can buy anything in there. There is a nice cheap foodcourt on I think the third level where there is free internet access too. There is a Giant Hypermarket inside as well, which is a big grocery store.

7 Take a cab to Hotel Travel. It's less than 10k (1 USD) and saves time and sweat.

8 Come out of Mercure, back to hotel, walk to sidewalk, turn left , cross the big street and there an alley on the 1st left with Kartika and Berlain.

9 General consensus seems to be, stay away from Stadium unless you want to end up paying the police a years salary to keep you out of jail if they raid it.

10 Apotek Roxy, directly across the street from Hotel New Mangga Besar sells Vitamins C and V for the start of your mega mongering trip, Amoxicillin for the middle of your trip, and Valtrex for the end of your trip.

11 Spider net, on the same side of the street as Hotel New Mangga Besar has cheap internet access.

Anyone stay at Sparks Hotel on Jl. Mangga Besar recently?
I hear some interesting tales about this place.

Puta Playa, Nice series of reports -- thanks for taking the time to write them up.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Have a Jakarta trip upcoming and whilst theres a few freebies I always enjoy a nice massage with a SYT now and again. Had a good session in Fortune last year but can't remember prices.

I remember theres two types of rooms, more expensive ones with shower etc.

Anyone been there recently and know current prices.

Its that or the hotels in Menteng but seem to always get the older woman in those places.

Anyone got any other good recommendations for massage near to Le Meridien?

Many Thanks.[/QUOTE]Fortune Spa does have several type of room, the one with shower is Rp320,000, as for the suites its $450,000. FS is available, but YMMV, damage for the Masseuse is around 300,000-500,000 rups. Good luck.

M blok yesterday around 23:00: Top Gun was loaded (I am poetic but all the other bars were dead. But did not see anything very much to my liking. So decided to move to CJ's. Taxi's outside of course tried to rip me off with asking IDR 200. 000 (!). Just walked to the main street and got a bluebird for IDR 12. 000 Small difference

Have been many times to CJ's. I always find it a little disappointing. There not not many real stunners, what you would expect from the top place in a capital. Try the top places in moscow or Bangkok and you can not stop drooling.

However, found a nice girl, maybe 7 or 8 in looks. With a see cup. What a coincidence

She turned out to be an unbelievable horny thing. After a big fuck I wanted to go sleep. But she did not allow me to. She just shoved her pussy in my face. So what can I do? She is both nice nad great in bed but speaks little english.

If you are interested and have more than 25 useful reports and seem to be treating women nicely (from your reports), PM me for her phone nr.

I know what you mean, I'm certainly the wrong side of 50 although I don't have a big gut! Even if I had however, I wouldn't be put off going anywhere because what most girls concern themselves with is the size or your wallet....

[QUOTE=Catire]

p.s. Sapperken, this post isn't at all directed at you individually. In your case, I will merely say that if you find/found Red Square not to your liking and the music not to your liking, then you'll need to reconsider that idea about being younger than 50 in mind and in body. The scene/music in RS will be replicated in just about any hopping normal club anywhere, so if you really felt like the "old man at the bar", then perhaps you really were. I'm not saying this with malice, just cold honest truth.[/QUOTE]

Koperen: I spent two nights there last week. Its right on Manga Besar. Green lights hit it during the day, you can't miss the high-rise. $55/night nett includes breakfast. Cute colors to the place, but its just a so-so place. Bar on ground floor, 80K for the drink to get in. Couple of topless dancers hitting up me (the only customer) for an expensive drink. Karaoke on the top floor. Stay on a middle floor to avoid the noise. Taxi drivers in the area had trouble finding it at night (they turn off the colored lights on the outside). Its 1 or 2 km from Stadium.

Just a warning: Viagra is expensive here. I paid IDR 582.000 (around USD 64) for 4 tablets of 100 mg in a local pharmacy. For me that is expensive (I can get it in many places way cheaper). They did not have any cheaper alternative.

Well reading the various reports , it looks like the strip place got some harassement by the police lately. Still, has anybody heard of a place in Jakarta where they still have nude shows ?

Thanks

Yesterday CJ's again. But only 10 minutes when a real hottie walked in and i decided to hit fast. 20 years old, big tits and a killer figure. What can a man want more? However, when i my hotel before showering she wants in my pants already. So first I thought "OMG, the professional who want to get it over as fast as possible and then leave too soon".

But I was wrong. She was just dead horny. After a long session she decided to stay and sleep with me. In the morning guess who woke me up by touching my dick?

Great lady and a very nice person too. Been lucky two times now.

Same conditions as previous report if anybody wants her number.

About 6 months in Jakarta ago met a professional and very pleasant lady, and after a few chats, drinks and dinner the obvious occurred. A few weeks later I took the same lady with me on a busines trip, where we really enjoyed. Good times, sometimes sizzling times.

I duly posted my trip report as I have been doing for many years.

Lady wasnt named, photos werent shared and I had hoped to see the lady again.

Then all went silent despite efforts to contact her.

Sent her a text recently just enquiring why she was so quiet.

She responded that she had read my report here in ISG, hence the silence, and I'm assuming was less than happy about it, even though she wasnt mentioned in any idenifiable way.

Anyways this is now the 3rd time this has happened to me, with the result before that I had to change my name here.

Anyways, check with your lady friends if they know what ISG is. For sure some of them do. Hi Ms W!

[QUOTE=Fslag338]Just a warning: Viagra is expensive here. I paid IDR 582.000 (around USD 64) for 4 tablets of 100 mg in a local pharmacy. For me that is expensive (I can get it in many places way cheaper). They did not have any cheaper alternative.[/QUOTE]

10 x 100 gm Cialis generics delivered to you for 250,000 IDR about 22 USD. IF you do not have a problem with generic or copies .. so cheap here.
I do not often use Viagra but it is also very reasonable as a non original.

[QUOTE=Pytheas Mars]Well reading the various reports , it looks like the strip place got some harassement by the police lately. Still, has anybody heard of a place in Jakarta where they still have nude shows ?

Thanks[/QUOTE]V2,

I can confirm still have full nude shows as was last night. 1am - 3am if I am not mistaken with 30 minute segments of 4 girls at a time.

In the past I have enjoyed full nude shows at King Cross, Club 36, Diamond, Rajamas and Malioboro to name a few.

Happy viewing

HM

[QUOTE=Pytheas Mars]Well reading the various reports , it looks like the strip place got some harassement by the police lately. Still, has anybody heard of a place in Jakarta where they still have nude shows ?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Try Classic Club and Malioboro

[QUOTE=Fslag338]Yesterday CJ's again. But only 10 minutes when a real hottie walked in and i decided to hit fast. 20 years old, big tits and a killer figure. What can a man want more? However, when i my hotel before showering she wants in my pants already. So first I thought "OMG, the professional who want to get it over as fast as possible and then leave too soon".

But I was wrong. She was just dead horny. After a long session she decided to stay and sleep with me. In the morning guess who woke me up by touching my dick?

Great lady and a very nice person too. Been lucky two times now.
[/QUOTE]

Damage? For how much did she stay with you LT?

[QUOTE=Bigcebu]Damage? For how much did she stay with you LT?[/QUOTE]IDR 700.000 Money well spent.

Was in the Atrium mall on a Saturday from 4-6 pm. It was/is supposed to bea pick up place. Well, I think that is no more. I have been watching for around two hours, especially around teh atrium / the railing/stairs but saw nothing which had to do with ou hobby. Was also not approached by a pimp or girl.

Maybe it became too obvious for other shoppers? Maybe an expat can fill us in on this?

You can get generic 10 x 100 Gram Cialis from push cart vendors on Jalan Manga Besar for 150,000rp. They ask for more, but just take the bottle and offer them 150,000. I've done this several times.

Enjoy,
Sky Dog

After many years of mongering all over SE Asia (including Birma and Laos), W and E Europe, Africa and to a lesser extent S America (Brazil and Argentina only), I dare to post the statement

Indonesian women are some of the worlds most horny women

They do not have the "service attitude" of Thais, they are not so wild as some africans, but they are in general not shy and incredible horny. My experiences with indo women are not in the hundreds, but maybe a 20-30. But it was almost always the same positive experience.

PS. Found another girl yesterday and again both great looks and great service.

A happy but tired man

[QUOTE=Bulai69]I know what you mean, I'm certainly the wrong side of 50 although I don't have a big gut! Even if I had however, I wouldn't be put off going anywhere because what most girls concern themselves with is the size or your wallet....[/QUOTE]Not when they're horny and want to get fucked. At those times they concern themselves with those other things, and only when satiated, they get back to "business". That's where YOU come in.

Fslag, concur.

Cooze Hound,

On the issue of overpriced viagra, cheap medicine can be very dangerous in Indonesia. They have a big problem with illegal counterfeits and knock-offs. It's one thing for your girlfriend to have a fake Gucci handbag.

It's another to have a dirty chemical cocktail concocted in an underground Chinese army factory floating around your endocrine system. Fake medicine is a big problem in Indonesia (and the Philippines and China etc).

You can get street varieties of Viagra here: the famed 'pil biru' (blue pill) or 'obat kuat' (strong medicine). They sell it all over the city. But the quality is a total crap shoot. That said, it usually does the job in the short-term though(or so I've heard.).

Guys,

I'd say yes, ISG and sites like it is catching on amongst net-savvy women here. Because of the traffic, long work hours, and more women managers, many are turning to the web to date. Of course, mongers have long been on to this trick. It's often a bit of a duel between monger and 'respectable' (ie not a pFp) Indo woman. He's out for free mongering. While she isn't adverse to a good time, a few drinks and a roll in the hay, is looking to lock in for the long haul. Many are doing their homework on dirtbags. ('I don' wan' bustard to waste time. I no want just wasting time, '), and will trawl sites like ISG. 'Bule (white men) just want fuck, ' one woman said, 'I read it on ISG'.

[QUOTE=Stopping By]Cooze Hound,

On the issue of overpriced viagra, cheap medicine can be very dangerous in Indonesia. They have a big problem with illegal counterfeits and knock-offs. It's one thing for your girlfriend to have a fake Gucci handbag.

It's another to have a dirty chemical cocktail concocted in an underground Chinese army factory floating around your endocrine system. Fake medicine is a big problem in Indonesia (and the Philippines and China etc).

You can get street varieties of Viagra here: the famed 'pil biru' (blue pill) or 'obat kuat' (strong medicine). They sell it all over the city. But the quality is a total crap shoot. That said, it usually does the job in the short-term though(or so I've heard.).[/QUOTE]

Yes what you say has a fair element of truth in terms of the risk. It probably comes down to dosage and frequency of consumption.
I have lived here now for 8 years and for 7 of those years I use the same supplier as do some of my associates without any problems. So I pay a little more for "generic's" but I get reliability of supply and dropped off to where ever I want it. I would certainly hesitate to pop into any Toko Obat Perkasa or buy them from the street guys outside Lokasari Plaza and the likes even though they well come from the same place.
I am comfortable with what I get and the associated risk.

[QUOTE=Cooze Hound]Yes what you say has a fair element of truth in terms of the risk. It probably comes down to dosage and frequency of consumption.

I have lived here now for 8 years and for 7 of those years I use the same supplier as do some of my associates without any problems. So I pay a little more for "generic's" but I get reliability of supply and dropped off to where ever I want it. I would certainly hesitate to pop into any Toko Obat Perkasa or buy them from the street guys outside Lokasari Plaza and the likes even though they well come from the same place.

I am comfortable with what I get and the associated risk.[/QUOTE]I live in KL and was always concerned by the same problem. How reliable is the supply. Visited several pharmacies and talked to a few pharmacists and found one guy who is a pharmacist in a normal Watsons, but moonlights in selling Kamagra. I figure a pharmacist should be a good bet for a proper supply. He has a long list of regular customers.

Guys,

I got so many requests for the phone nrs that I stop giving them out. The girls will need a secretary soon.

So you will have to hunt for yourself.

[QUOTE=Stopping By]Guys,

I'd say yes, ISG and sites like it is catching on amongst net-savvy women here. Because of the traffic, long work hours, and more women managers, many are turning to the web to date. Of course, mongers have long been on to this trick. It's often a bit of a duel between monger and 'respectable' (ie not a pFp) Indo woman. He's out for free mongering. While she isn't adverse to a good time, a few drinks and a roll in the hay, is looking to lock in for the long haul. Many are doing their homework on dirtbags. ('I don' wan' bustard to waste time. I no want just wasting time, '), and will trawl sites like ISG. 'Bule (white men) just want fuck, ' one woman said, 'I read it on ISG'.[/QUOTE]

I was in the net cafe downstairs in Plaza Semangii last week, and a gal sat down next to me and logged in to her AFF site. She checked craigslist. She opened her YM and started chatting a guy. She was also on FB and chatting thru that to a man, asking him when he was coming to Jakarta. The man she was chatting with in YM was in Jakarta, and she was trying to meet up. I had ISG open, but minimized. She then opened ISG and went prowling thru the Indonesia threads. She flat asked the YM gent if he was a poster on ISG, he said he didnt know what that was. The gals are more sophisticated maybe than we give them credit. She offered to meet the gent anywhere he wanted. She said she liked bats. Its hard at first to watch all this out of the corner of my eye, but I began to realize she was concentrating on the keyboard and the monitor and the men and different applications, and not me, so I just looked over at her monitor a lot.

It was my first glimpse into the girl's techno side in jakarta. In philipines they sit and have several YM windows open at once in a cafe, hinting at money directly to their online bf's ("baby my rent i have pay today"). This girl was skimming thru AFF and ISG at the same time, chatting guys hoping for a meet-up.

Previously I would have thought this odd. But a week prior, one day in the cafe on second floor in Sarinah, I saw a local guy watching porn on a computer there, a streaming f*ck scene. Never seen that in public before. Few days later, same place, a lady, late 20's, was looking online at pics of naked women. Has anyone else seen this behavior?

[QUOTE=Sol111]I was in the net cafe downstairs in Plaza Semangii last week, and a gal sat down next to me and logged in to her AFF site. She checked craigslist. She opened her YM and started chatting a guy. She was also on FB and chatting thru that to a man, asking him when he was coming to Jakarta. The man she was chatting with in YM was in Jakarta, and she was trying to meet up. I had ISG open, but minimized. She then opened ISG and went prowling thru the Indonesia threads. She flat asked the YM gent if he was a poster on ISG, he said he didnt know what that was. T[/QUOTE]

Seems like in Blok M bars and places like Hotel Travel, there are 3-4 WG for every monger. And not every guy even sessions..like the Chinese at HT that just sit there like logs and sometimes don't even talk to the girls. So the ratio makes it easy to get a nice one. I guess it's cause JKT is not exactly at the top of the list for sex destinations.

Some of the other places that I hobby are similar to production line pussy... you have to wait for some guy to roll off so you can jump on. :)

[QUOTE=Stopping By]'Bule (white men) just want fuck, ' one woman said, 'I read it on ISG'.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I think most of the guys who post on this indonesian forum are not bules, but asians. Many from Malaysia. It's not only bules who are nakal.

[QUOTE=Fslag338]Yesterday CJ's again. But only 10 minutes when a real hottie walked in and i decided to hit fast. 20 years old, big tits and a killer figure. What can a man want more? However, when i my hotel before showering she wants in my pants already. So first I thought "OMG, the professional who want to get it over as fast as possible and then leave too soon".

But I was wrong. She was just dead horny. After a long session she decided to stay and sleep with me. In the morning guess who woke me up by touching my dick?

Great lady and a very nice person too. Been lucky two times now.

Same conditions as previous report if anybody wants her number.[/QUOTE]

Good to see you are still busy FS.....did she like her ass being spanked hard, tied up etc...you know who I am speaking of LOL

Looks as though a vsisit to Jakarta is needed as you have good taste in ladies albeit maybe not as kinky as I like them :D....again you know who i am speaking of. back PI soon...as I am :D

Actually I am wondering how you guys who prefer to go without a condom handle the whole thing. Me, being totally on the fetish of "cumming inside" has had a nice encounter in Jakarta lately. Being on the combination of totally pissed and horny like hell I entered a few bars near Blok M. I would say that most of the girls agree to "no condom". Can anyone confirm this? After catching one of the cuties there we agreed on 400 k for short time without condom.

After getting undressed I saw her having some stretchmarks around her belly and hips which made me even more horny. Yes, I am into stretchmarks. She blew me and then lowered herself on top of me. All without a rubber. Me being a fast shooter I came inside her big time after a minute or so. She got really annoyed about that. Well, well. The next day I picked her up in the same bar again and asked her: "Go hotel? No condom. " She agreed. Even though she knew I had filled her pussy with my cum the day before. Same setting. After a short while I came inside her again. She got upset again. I don't know for how long I could have continued that game. Unfortunately I had to leave JAK. I am just wondering if you guys prefer to cum inside or shoot somewhere else? Or is it that the girls want you to cum inside? Just curious.

Reading a few pages back, it seems like Travel Hotel is a popular choice among the mongers here. As for me I prefer Tropical Spa as it offers more value. They have a similar price range of around 400k but you get a free message at Tropical. 200k for the girl + 200k for the house + plus tip for the massage girl if you like but you don't have to. Though, I have to agree that some of the Travel Hotel girls are really hot!

My trick whenever I went to sauna places is that I always asks to view the girls first before you go to take a dip or shower. Then tell the papa san which lady you want and he will reserve her for you while you go and shower. Though you will be asked not to take too long when there are many customers. This way, you don't have to 'fight' with other customers for the girl you took a fancy to later or worry that the good ones are all taken.

Anyway, I was really keen to sample the taller girls I saw last time. 2-3 of them and they were really hot too and somehow all chose not to come today! Only the shorter ones available today, only one cute petite girl took my fancy and was further convinced to choose her when papa san told me she was one of the best service providers. I chose her and went for my bath.

Came back up refreshed. Now you get a second chance to pick anyone better than the one you picked before (don't worry, they don't care as long as you pick). No one caught my attention, so went with original pick.

Her name was Bella. Cute face, tight brown skinned body . But that was the only positives. No kissing and licking, not very GFE nor wild. Totally disappointed. So much for one of the best service providers. Though her p*ssy was tight and not hairy (not shaved). I was looking towards the message half way doing it with her. Well maybe my expectations was high since papa san mentioned about the excellent service. Will be back for the tall girls!

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Good to see you are still busy FS.....did she like her ass being spanked hard, tied up etc...you know who I am speaking of LOL

Looks as though a vsisit to Jakarta is needed as you have good taste in ladies albeit maybe not as kinky as I like them :D....again you know who i am speaking of. back PI soon...as I am :D[/QUOTE]Dear mothers of the Philippines. Please lock your daughters inside. Something much more dangerous than the worst typhoon is coming your way.)

Can anyone advise on bars to go to in Kemang with bar girls like Blok M?

Otherwise, suggest any bars in Kemang which are regularly frequented by 20-30 yr old girls looking for Bule?

Snow

[QUOTE=Nightskipper]After a short while I came inside her again. She got upset again. I don't know for how long I could have continued that game. Unfortunately I had to leave JAK.[/QUOTE]

I would guess for another 9 months ;)

[QUOTE=Nightskipper]I would say that most of the girls agree to "no condom". Can anyone confirm this? After catching one of the cuties there we agreed on 400 k for short time without condom.

I am just wondering if you guys prefer to cum inside or shoot somewhere else? Or is it that the girls want you to cum inside? Just curious.[/QUOTE]Bro Nightskipper,

I was a frequent player in JKT 2years back. IMHO, most of the cewek are not really concern about rubber. They also know that this 'extra' turns on most mongers.

I'm into MILFs & most often than not, they don't mind u shooting inside them. Fm my experience, they want some action (or orgasm) before u shoot off. To your 2nd question, you'll be amazed that these girls don't even recognise you even if you take her for 3-4 days straight.

Me - i love to cum inside them, but safety first bro.

Man 0 Man.

After reading the reports on here I want to visit Jakarta. Lets see how it goes.

Only one girl has ever even bothered to mention it.

And it was only a mention. If they desire it, they never bring it up in JKT.

[QUOTE=Snow Koala]Can anyone advise on bars to go to in Kemang with bar girls like Blok M?

Otherwise, suggest any bars in Kemang which are regularly frequented by 20-30 yr old girls looking for Bule?

Snow[/QUOTE]Why not just go to the Blok ? Its only another 5 minutes or so from Kemang in evening traffic. No mongering type bars there.

Star Deli has the the odd girl but not often, as does Eastern Promise, Cross Roads and the one or two others. Try your luck with the bar staff. Most of Kemang's venues are the club scene of well to do locals.

[QUOTE=Razerus]IMHO, most of the cewek are not really concern about rubber. [/QUOTE]It depends what type of girl you are having sex with. If you are going with the girls fresh out of the village from Indramayu, yes they don't usually demand a condom. Those type of girls can be found in the slave sex shops in north jakarta and in blok m. But if you are going to upscale places with better looking and more educated girls, they usually want you to use a condom.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]It depends what type of girl you are having sex with. If you are going with the girls fresh out of the village from Indramayu, yes they don't usually demand a condom. Those type of girls can be found in the slave sex shops in north jakarta and in blok m. But if you are going to upscale places with better looking and more educated girls, they usually want you to use a condom.[/QUOTE]I was a slave to one of the P4Ps at Hotel Travel, so know exactly what you mean by slave sex shop..she barebacked me several times in a week and made quite a lot from me. I could only break myself away from that by fleeing Jakarta.

Now, seriously. I experienced a 50/50 take on rubbers and I think that was just because I was typically pulling one out. They probably all would have went without, except one that insisted on a CBJ finish which I decided to forgo in the interest of finding a different girl to take the shot.

I was shocked. I have maybe 40 P4P girls to my record before hitting JKT..Mexico, Brasil, Japan. All but 1 insisted on a condom for FS. I got to JKT and the ones that did want a condom didn't seem to know how to put one on, so I doubt they use them often...maybe just for bules? These P4P's in JKT must have a short shelf-life.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I was a slave to one of the P4Ps at Hotel Travel, so know exactly what you mean by slave sex shop..she barebacked me several times in a week and made quite a lot from me. I could only break myself away from that by fleeing Jakarta.

Now, seriously. I experienced a 50/50 take on rubbers and I think that was just because I was typically pulling one out. They probably all would have went without, except one that insisted on a CBJ finish which I decided to forgo in the interest of finding a different girl to take the shot.

I was shocked. I have maybe 40 P4P girls to my record before hitting JKT..Mexico, Brasil, Japan. All but 1 insisted on a condom for FS. I got to JKT and the ones that did want a condom didn't seem to know how to put one on, so I doubt they use them often...maybe just for bules? These P4P's in JKT must have a short shelf-life.[/QUOTE]To Puta

I been to hotel travel many time girl there always insist to use a condom, I will never do a WG without one, I always carry a few to hotel travel or stadium just in case they don't have one.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To Puta

I been to hotel travel many time girl there always insist to use a condom, I will never do a WG without one, I always carry a few to hotel travel or stadium just in case they don't have one.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Agree totally!

Been around the mongering scene for last four years and have seen quite a few girls disappear, on inquiring with friends always get the same response " Di Kampung", so hope they don't goto village to live the rest of their life in sickness.

Another thing it notices at King Cross was a couple of the girls has needle prick on their hands which were distinctly from blood tests and one of the regular confirm that they are sent in for frequent HIV and HepB tests.

My advise is keep away from the real cheap ones and dont bareback on WG

[QUOTE=Smoothy]Actually, I think most of the guys who post on this indonesian forum are not bules, but asians. Many from Malaysia. It's not only bules who are nakal.[/QUOTE]
Well I'm not a bule and last I checked my passport was Malaysian.:D However it has been some time since I posted. But why bother with all that? Just go out and enjoy Jakarta...:)

MD II

[QUOTE=Razerus] IMHO, most of the cewek are not really concern about rubber.[/QUOTE]
Rubber is admittedly not a matter of importance in Indonesia (contrary to Brasil where women have been literally brainwashed against bareback sex). In more than ten years of very intensive mongering in JKT, I have never ever been asked to wrap it up, even with the most cosmopolitan and learned non-pros.

Indonesian ceweks are definitely the most carefree and easy-going women on the planet, bar none.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Well I'm not a bule and last I checked my passport was Malaysian.:D However it has been some time since I posted. But why bother with all that? Just go out and enjoy Jakarta...:)

MD II[/QUOTE]
Like Smoothy wrote: It's not only bules who are nakal :D

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Well I'm not a bule and last I checked my passport was Malaysian.:D However it has been some time since I posted. But why bother with all that? Just go out and enjoy Jakarta...:)

MD II[/QUOTE]

Sorry I'll miss meeting you, JAD told me you're in town. I'll be coming over early May. Would be nice for a couple of non-bules to hang :D

Does anyone have information on this Indonesian confidence trickster?

She is a pathological liar, brilliant actress and has an evil mind, preying on men to break their hearts and fleece them of their money using lies, play acting and deceit.

Her name is Azmi. She used to work in Maxim karaoke, Batam, using the name Lili, but now freelances from Bukit Bintang, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and Jakarta and Bandung in Indonesia.

Recently she has been using chat rooms such as yahoo messenger to prey on men to con. Beware of an Indonesian girl in these chat rooms with the name Liliazmi.

[QUOTE=Prosal]In more than ten years of very intensive mongering in JKT, I have never ever been asked to wrap it up, even with the most cosmopolitan and learned non-pros. [/QUOTE]

I think I could poll any guy I meet in any establishment in Jakarta and they would disagree with that. I've lived in Jakarta 10 years and the majority of girls suggest a condom. Many of them mandatory. Hell, even at Malioboro, the girls all require condoms (they provide them). I've never even once had a girl there not pull out a condom before she got to work. One of the excuses the malioboro girls use to not give up a 2nd round is that they only had one condom. So I always bring a couple with me to prevent that scenario. Sure many girls in the down market places will go without a condom if I wanted that, even some in the up market. However, the other day the massage girl wanted to use a condom for the bj, not only sex. Sorry, but covered bj's are out for me so I refused her services.

Do the girls in Brazil require condoms more often? Absolutely. But to say a girl in Jakarta never asked you to use a condom? Please.

[QUOTE=Menteng]Like Smoothy wrote: It's not only bules who are nakal :D[/QUOTE]

Bro Menteng, I do agree with your comment about MDII ~ I wouldn't be surprised they may offer him honorary citizenship due to the number of non-WL pussies he's conquered in Jakarta ... and Medan ... and ... it's the highest honor Indonesia can award to a civilian foreigner.

MDII - NATIONALITY : Malaysian PLACE OF RESIDENCE : Pussyland

Best,
Panya


[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Well I'm not a bule and last I checked my passport was Malaysian.:D However it has been some time since I posted. But why bother with all that? Just go out and enjoy Jakarta...:)

MD II[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy]I think I could poll any guy I meet in any establishment in Jakarta and they would disagree with that. I've lived in Jakarta 10 years and the majority of girls suggest a condom. Many of them mandatory. Hell, even at Malioboro, the girls all require condoms (they provide them). I've never even once had a girl there not pull out a condom before she got to work. One of the excuses the malioboro girls use to not give up a 2nd round is that they only had one condom. So I always bring a couple with me to prevent that scenario. Sure many girls in the down market places will go without a condom if I wanted that, even some in the up market. However, the other day the massage girl wanted to use a condom for the BJ, not only sex. Sorry, but covered BJ's are out for me so I refused her services.

Do the girls in Brazil require condoms more often? Absolutely. But to say a girl in Jakarta never asked you to use a condom? Please.[/QUOTE]Smoothy, completely different take. I'm with Prosal. Have not lived there, but been in Jakarta enough. Really, one time a girl pulled one out, said 'you want? ' (had my own). That was the only time. If I don't bring it up, its not mentioned. Never had one insist.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Smoothy, completely different take. I'm with Prosal. Have not lived there, but been in Jakarta enough. Really, one time a girl pulled one out, said 'you want? ' (had my own). That was the only time. If I don't bring it up, its not mentioned. Never had one insist.[/QUOTE]

I have lived in Jakarta just 8 yrs but have to side with Smoothy on this one.
The last 2-3 years in particular condoms are at least discussed. But more to the point is the number of non Indonesian men from all sorts of countries that do not wish to use them.

[QUOTE=Smoothy] But to say a girl in Jakarta never asked you to use a condom? Please.[/QUOTE]
We obviously don't talk about the same thing. By "girl" I didn't mean "working girl", but non-pro. And anyone who has scored a few non-pros in Indonesia knows that Indo girls have a VERY lax attitude (to say the least) towards condoms. Indonesian girls are undoubtedly the most "carefree" on earth in that respect (along, to a lesser extent, with russian girls, who are simply way too wild and passionate to really care about rubber).

Been around but this is what I still couldn't find.

Anyone know escort joint where you could get China dolls or Thai out to your hotel?

Recommended website where photo match reality?

Can send to my yahoo address.

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Last week I go to Alexis Hotel Spa. After looking for girls, end up with a Russian. Not too pretty but the service is very good. DC is 1.6 mill rupiah + tips.

Many locals here, but I think I can get cheaper DC for locals in other places.

[QUOTE=Prosal]We obviously don't talk about the same thing. By "girl" I didn't mean "working girl", but non-pro. And anyone who has scored a few non-pros in Indonesia knows that Indo girls have a VERY lax attitude (to say the least) towards condoms. Indonesian girls are undoubtedly the most "carefree" on earth in that respect (along, to a lesser extent, with russian girls, who are simply too wild and passionate to really care about rubber).

Don't misinterpret my words.

If I had felt the need to partake the Manga Bessar or alike nasty P4P scene (which never happened) in Jakarta, I'd of course never have touched any of the semi-enslaved skanks working in those fine "establishments" without a condom. And frankly, given the dozens of filthy mongers those girls have to fuk each week, I hope they require rubber and succeed in getting most of their clients to wrap it up, but I seriously doubt about it.[/QUOTE]Prosal,

You can get AID from any woman in the world not just WG, if you don't think with your big head or don't care about your health you are very naive, yes some girl in Jarkata from the country side don't know any better but you should.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Cooze Hound]. But more to the point is the number of non Indonesian men from all sorts of countries that do not wish to use them.[/QUOTE]

Certainly. After posting my recent pics and trip report, I received numerous inquiries on BBFS in JKT. There are some hardcore gents who have JKT on the itinerary primarily for the abundant BBFS. This is not my SOP and I hope that I am not hooked on it now. I was thinking of how I could bareback some garotas in Rio, so am already worried about the coup d'état of my little head over the big one.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Well I'm not a bule and last I checked my passport was Malaysian.:D However it has been some time since I posted. But why bother with all that? Just go out and enjoy Jakarta.

MD II[/QUOTE]I am really surprised that malaysians are more active than indonesians (sexually maybe) since most forum full of their report. Even in Malaysia's section reports. I think sex actions are slower than Indonesia (Jakarta), am i rights?

Salute for thats, brothers. Is this because you more active or your acces to the internet better?

[QUOTE=Barson]Been around but this is what I still couldn't find.

Anyone know escort joint where you could get China dolls or Thai out to your hotel?

Recommended website where photo match reality?

Can send to my yahoo address.

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Hi Barson,

If cost is not a factor you can try visiting Maliboro Spa in Kota Area coz I saw some hot China Dolls there! If I'm not mistaken you can take them back by paying 4 times thier 1 shot rate! A big THANKS to JAD for his wonderful tour of Maliboro Spa! ;)

[QUOTE=Prosal]We obviously don't talk about the same thing. By "girl" I didn't mean "working girl", but non-pro. And anyone who has scored a few non-pros in Indonesia knows that Indo girls have a VERY lax attitude (to say the least) towards condoms. Indonesian girls are undoubtedly the most "carefree" on earth in that respect (along, to a lesser extent, with russian girls, who are simply way too wild and passionate to really care about rubber).[/QUOTE]

I agree that girls who are not hookers such as the ones you meet on the internet, etc do not require them. However, those are normally not girls who will have sex with you the first time you meet them. You have to put in some hours on the internet and some personal time investment on your part, showing them what a great guy you are, to even get in their pants in the first place. Those girls are also more dangerous in jakarta if you live here. They can cause you some trouble if you hook up with one who has connections to the government or such. In my opinion, if you are just out for sex, those girls are a waste of time given the multitude of options for pay-for-play, care free sex in town. It's been quite a while since a working girl didn't suggest I use a condom. But I prefer to use them anyway, so it's not an issue for me. I actually find that more working girls in Thailand are likely to want to to it without a condom than working girls in indo. Those Thai girls are wild.

[QUOTE=Razerus]Bro Nightskipper,

I'm into MILFs & most often than not, [/QUOTE]I'd like to try that ... but how do you, where do you meet MILFs?

Girls in their 20s are everywhere, but MILFs?

Tried Delta Spa the other day. The one at Jl Rasuna and Jl Gatot Subroto in the Mega Kuningan area. I think there must be other Delta's too? Someone confirm please?

Since the spa has been covered many times before, I just wanted to add an up to date price point. They offered a triple package, 2 hours, which I understood from previous posters is the standard including a HJ ending. So I took it, the package was normal oil/aroma massage, hot stone and shiatsu. I wasn't sure what shiatsu was, but once the girl explained in the room I opted out of that as I preferred a more relaxing massage.
Anyways, the massage was really good, the girl young and cute, and so was all the girls I saw there, so quality is certainly good.
My price 510k for the triple package in a standard room. Not sure if that included the orange juice I had while waiting.

Good experience!

A friend told me he had heard rumours there is a massage/spa service operating out of Hotel Manhattan 7th floor, anyone heard anything about that? I know there is a "Bali Spa" there, but my experience was that it was clean. Or could there be something else there as well?

[QUOTE=Prosal]We obviously don't talk about the same thing. By "girl" I didn't mean "working girl", but non-pro. And anyone who has scored a few non-pros in Indonesia knows that Indo girls have a VERY lax attitude (to say the least) towards condoms. Indonesian girls are undoubtedly the most "carefree" on earth in that respect (along, to a lesser extent, with russian girls, who are simply way too wild and passionate to really care about rubber).[/QUOTE]If you don't know, prosal spent a good amount of time in south Jakarta and goes sole for the non-pro scene and does extremely well. I have no doubt that the non-pros in Jakarta that he picked up didn't require him to wear a raincoat. I think it's sort of standard with non-pros in all of asia. I've never had a non-pro ask for a raincoat.

As for the pro scene in Jakarta, the majority ask for you to wear a raincoat theses days and it's made a difference. When I first started going to Jakarta, I saw the worse cases of herpes/genital warts of the working girls. Nowadays, I don't see the herpes/warts as much but have seen a big increase in gonn/clap. There is a girl that actively has a really bad case of herpes working in travel that I noticed a few months ago. SHe's been there for about +2 years now. It's a real shame because she's a really cute spinner.

When I have time, I'll post a pic of herpes/warts that I recently came across in Kota, Jakarta.

Time to post and update after lurking for so many months.

Recently did 2 days in Jakarta.

Day 1
Started at Travel Hotel and picked from the selection of SYTs and whilst seated at the high table/high chairs, a sweetie came up and stroked my hand asking me to take her. Her name was Nila and with a sweet smile, we both agreed and paid damage of IDR300k to the mamasan.

Had 2 beers in the room and we both showered (with kissing and fondling in the shower), proceeded to the bed with her intense kissing and licking and then did the customary positions and she was very DFK friendly which made me even hornier. Finished and tipped her IDR300k.

Continued with drinks at Hotel Mulia's CJ before moving on to Classic Hotel's karaoke on th 3rd floor. They have a few mamasans with different set of girls and they will sing and play with you in the karoake room (no sex, just kissing and some mild fondling) for IDR495k the whole night(local talent) or IDR1.1m for chinese talent. The rooms are decent and are having a 2 bottles for one price promotion. We had the Johnnie Gold 2 for 1 at IDR2.3m and 3 girls for the 2 of us. Total Damage was IDR4.5m (we also had food and mixers) For 5 hours of fun and 2 Johnnie Gold and 3 girls, it is ok by Jakarta standards.

Went back to Mulia CJ to pick up an nighter and found one whom unfortunately started the ball at saying IDR1.5m....ha ha...told her I will be very nice and only pay IDR1m even though the going rate was IDR700k, she ended first session and then started ranting about all men are bastards, etc, etc. Told her we needed to sleep as it was already 5am.

Morning session was refused as she said I needed to pay an additional IDR500k. Told her politely that this is not my first time to Jakarta. Anyway told her it's alright and kept my cool as did not want to spoil my day.

Had to escort her down as she will be extorted by the security guards for money.

Day 2
Started Lunch at Alexis Hotel, North Jakarta and relaxed with some nice Johnnie Black and beef noodle soup. Checked out the Thai, Chinese and local talent and decided for local and went with Ayu...sweeet..and big natural jugs..great GFE service and tipped her well...Had some Coronas in the room and took the special suite with a work-out chair...and fulfilled my "gym" fantasy....She had a penchant for the porn movies and we coopied some of the moves....told me she had more than 1000 porn movies on her laptop....and a large number of the same on her phone....This validates my theory a large number of girls in Jakarta enjoy porn.
(Cost is IDR950k for locals and IDR1.8m for Thai and Chinese)

Finished in the afternoon and proceeded to Maliaboro Hotel and decided I needed a good rub. Took the "Panda" package (chinese girl massage). Went for the IDR300k body massage and she was good. Decided also for the "special" after she slowly caressed me to a hard-on and paid IDR1m for extras. Her nipples were one of the biggest I have seen and it turned me on even further and gave them a good licking & finished with both coming at the same time.

Overall 2 good days.

FD

[QUOTE=Socrates69]
When I have time, I'll post a pic of herpes/warts that I recently came across in Kota, Jakarta.[/QUOTE]

Maybe you should consider to post photo's of the girl's face as well.

The Hotel / Location:
We stayed at Mercure HayamWuruk Hotel. It is situated in a busy area, China Town like. Bustling with activity throughout the day and at nights traffic up to around 10pm. The staff of the hotel are friendly and helpful. The in-house massage is thereupeutic/good…but skip the hanky-panky. It does not have an in-house bar which is a draw-back. In house safe, TV, wifi, fridge, bathtub available. The cost is mid…neither too expensive nor too cheap.

Hayam Wuruk area is happening with Lokasari, Stadium, Travel Hotel and similar joints around the area. Transport is easily available to these spots (get the Hotel conscierge to call you a cab and will revealed!). There is also some shopping centres and a money changer very nearby (walking distance).
You can get cheap and authentic Nasi Padang at the restaurant opposite the Hotel’s traffic lights.

The Experience:
It was the first time I was in Jakarta so expectations were sky high, especially after reading most of the posts in the Jakarta thread. We had a great time at Stadium and I picked up Wee Wee (21-23 y.o. WL), Body 6/10, face 6/10, attitude 8/10. Overnighter cost me a cool Rph 1 million!!!

Alexis was another fun place. It was a 20-30 minute relaxed taxi ride there. There is a soapy upstairs. Girls are very high quality. Downstairs at the Lobby Bar (Alexis) the fun starts around 10pm. Gils galore. Coyote dancing and strip tease on stage by groups of girls (local and Filipinas). High quality & high priced (heard the Coyotes were charging Rph3 million just for a shot!!!).

Anyway stay away from the Filipina girls roaming around there as they are only there for Ladies drinks (and we were unsuccesfull in getting into their pants that night…sigh!!!). Picked up “Sayang” (not her real name…coz I cant remember her name!). Body 6/10, face 6/10, attitude 8/10. Another cool Rph 1 mill! But drinkd were cheap…2 bottles of Chivas at Rph 1.5 mill.

The Hotel Security/Conscierge were also very helpful. I managed to get a WL at 3am, ant remember her name again…price and quality about the same as above. Anyway I always prefer going to the pubs, bars discos and choosing my own meat, but in case of emergencies…why not the in-house!

Summary:
Jakarta was fun as long as you don’t mind the traffic. Food was cheap, people were friendly. Girls were hot! WIR…definitely lah!!! O yeah, and we played 2 rounds of lovely golf there as well, thoroughly enjoyable.

PS : Always bring extra cash to Jakarta, grils are quite pricey and since choices are many…very tough to resist!

Cheers & Regards,
Ice

I hear that Alexis burned down the other day. I never made it up there, but that's a shame. I'm wondering if now Malioboro will be completely packed - not only with more customers but with the girls from Alexis.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]I hear that Alexis burned down the other day. I never made it up there, but that's a shame. I'm wondering if now Malioboro will be completely packed - not only with more customers but with the girls from Alexis.[/QUOTE]
That's sad news, do you perhaps know what happened?

Yes, absolute shame it has burned down, it was such a beautiful designed place- very tasteful. [url]http://www.alexisjakarta.com/chill.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Menteng]Like Smoothy wrote: It's not only bules who are nakal :D[/QUOTE]
Hey bro,

It's been too long and we miss you. As I told Jad the other day, I'm waiting for you to come back so you can teach me. All hail the mahaguru... :D

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Sorry I'll miss meeting you, JAD told me you're in town. I'll be coming over early May. Would be nice for a couple of non-bules to hang :D[/QUOTE]
The funny thing is that on the day I was leaving, I was informed that I have to go back (most reluctantly;)) to Jakarta for work! My schedule calls for 5th - 8th May but I'm trying to do 3rd - 7th (no guarantees Knight but I'm trying really hard to reschedule!) as requested by another senior member.

[QUOTE=Panya]Bro Menteng, I do agree with your comment about MDII ~ I wouldn't be surprised they may offer him honorary citizenship due to the number of non-WL pussies he's conquered in Jakarta ... and Medan ... and ... it's the highest honor Indonesia can award to a civilian foreigner.

MDII - NATIONALITY : Malaysian PLACE OF RESIDENCE : Pussyland

Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]
Hmmm... and this from the guy who couldn't meet us for dinner because a cewek was coming to his room...???

[QUOTE=Liondale]
A friend told me he had heard rumours there is a massage/spa service operating out of Hotel Manhattan 7th floor, anyone heard anything about that? I know there is a "Bali Spa" there, but my experience was that it was clean. Or could there be something else there as well?[/QUOTE]
Hey Liondale,

That would be a surprise as my friend once ordered a massage to the room and they obliged reluctantly and sent an escort with the girl to make sure there was no hanky-panky. So I guess it's unlikely unless the spa management or policy has changed. Anyone?

[QUOTE=Barson]Been around but this is what I still couldn't find.

Anyone know escort joint where you could get China dolls or Thai out to your hotel?
[/QUOTE]

KL Guy's right, try Marlioboro but even having them in is expensive enough - let alone taking them out! I had to do it for some guys as a favour last year and it was 4.5Million Rps per girl overnight - and you would normally tip the girl as well... Good luck unless you have deep pockets.

MDII

Went to Hotel Classic and went to the first floor Massage Spa. When I was quoted the price. I realised it's not the right place. So I walked out. And went to the third floor and found the right place.

Walked in and din see what I like yet. So decided to wait. There was so much choice. In the end I opted for the 350 000 rph for 2 girls package. I picked 2 girls and had to wait damn long for a room. Looks wise both were 7s.

One mistake I made was picking too early because there were some hotter chicks appearing but I can't change my mind anymore.

After half an hour, finally got my room and I had one of the best three some and GFE feeling. One girl licked me all over while one sucked my cock uncapped. I enjoyed fucking one chick while the other one licked me all over. One thing to note, they change condoms whenever you want to change your partners, that's very hygenic but if you want to keep changing, it's a lot of hassle. Overall. Enjoyable threesome with two hotties for only 350 000. That's a super bargain! Gave both 100 000 rph each as tips. Worth all the rph.

Thanks for recommending Hotel Classic forum. You guys rocked!

Hi Tommy,

Hey are you sure Alexis burned down? What a shame! Nice place. Do you have the newspaper report or something bro?

Cheers
Ice

[url]http://international.okezone.com/read/2010/04/26/338/326511/338/30-rumah-di-belakang-hotel-alexis-hangus-terbakar[/url]

Report related to Alexis. Short translation, 30 houses behind Alexis Hotel burned down due to 3kg LPG gas tank exploding. No report of Alexis Hotel actually burning down. I think those firefighters actually put down the fire from Alexis first then to the source of the fire. Which probably why 30 houses were the result. Payroll for the higher up win maybe?

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]
Hey Liondale,

That would be a surprise as my friend once ordered a massage to the room and they obliged reluctantly and sent an escort with the girl to make sure there was no hanky-panky. So I guess it's unlikely unless the spa management or policy has changed. Anyone?

MDII[/QUOTE]

Hi MDII,
long time no see. Yeah think I have concluded the same, I actually called the Concierge and asked for massage with extra, and he said the nearest was Delta Spa. Also in the lift there is no 7th floor, the Bali Spa is in 6th or 8th if I remember correct, so unless there is something super secret I think we can write this one off.

[QUOTE=Crystal Maiden]....
Enjoyable threesome with two hotties for only 350 000. That's a super bargain! Gave both 100 000 rph each as tips. Worth all the rph.

Thanks for recommending Hotel Classic forum. You guys rocked![/QUOTE]

Sounds really good! Gotta try :)

[QUOTE=Valkyrie][url]http://international.okezone.com/read/2010/04/26/338/326511/338/30-rumah-di-belakang-hotel-alexis-hangus-terbakar[/url]

Report related to Alexis. Short translation, 30 houses behind Alexis Hotel burned down due to 3kg LPG gas tank exploding. No report of Alexis Hotel actually burning down. I think those firefighters actually put down the fire from Alexis first then to the source of the fire. Which probably why 30 houses were the result. Payroll for the higher up win maybe?[/QUOTE]


You are correct. It seems my source was exaggerating. The information I'm getting now is that some places in the surrounding area burned, not Alexis itself. I'll have to make a trip up there to check it out for myself. I've always wanted to try that place.

Hi,
Here's an update on hotels that I have stayed at in JKT:

Amaris hotel - small rooms, clean, very basic, small LCD tv, limited english programs, GF

Studio One residence - small rooms, clean, very basic, small LCD tv, no english programs, no gym GF

Millenium Hotel - ok size rooms, not run down but in need of some upkeep, but still manageable, breakfast ok choices, small TV, various english programs, gym recently remodelled, GF

Santika hotel - as I previously reported, really a 3* program but 0* service, rip-off hotel that caters to locals, gym old and outdated, tv small but various english programs, GF

Akmani hotel - good size rooms, clean, new, nice, regular size LCD not 'big' as reported by other sites, lots of English programs, small, very small, really small gym, GF don't know will try tonight

Ambhara hotel - stayed here many times, very nice hotel, clean, good service, close to Blok M, good size tv, lots of english programs, small gym but ok, can manage with the gym, very GF, but be aware the walk of shame starts at Blok M

TAXIS:
I have read some comments on taxis, here is my opinion. If you are a first time traveller to JKT, be aware of the swarm of taxi drivers as you exit the airport hall, most of thse guys will have a blue shirt claiming to be Bluebird.
LOOK for the person wearing a BLUEBIRD shirt with bluebird written on it, keep walking until you find them. Don't get overwhelmed by the 'touts' outside the airport. Actually the bluebird stand is opposite the bluebird billboard on the opposite side of the street. I have been here several times but still only use Bluebird and Express taxis. Silver bird is fine but out of my range. My advice don't get flustered by the swarm of guys outside just look for the actual bluebird guy.

[QUOTE=Bkk212]Hi,

Akmani hotel - good size rooms, clean, new, nice, regular size LCD not 'big' as reported by other sites, lots of English programs, small, very small, really small gym, GF don't know will try tonight
.[/QUOTE]!

I can confirm that Akmani is GF as I stayed there last year for 2 weeks and not once did I face a problem in taking any girls to my room! It is a fav businessman hotel. A lot of corporate type people during breakfast

[QUOTE=Bkk212]Hi,


TAXIS:
Silver bird is fine but out of my range. My advice don't get flustered by the swarm of guys outside just look for the actual bluebird guy.[/QUOTE]

In actual fact you pay only an extra of 30 to 40K for a very nice & comfy Mercedes Limo used by Silverbird to central Jakarta and I use it especially when there is a line of people waiting for BB cabs at the airport!

Hey there,

I will be going Jakarta in May, can I find out where is the best place I can hook out with pretty gals for overnight in my hotel for a price of course?

Thanks

Hi guys,

Can I find out where can I get good quality gals for overnight?

Thanks

Hi,
Can't say that I tried at the Akmani as there were too many people around.
Went down at about 1:00am and there were 2 guys at the desk, 1 person at the front door, 3 couples hanging around on the patio, 3 security guards on the first level and 3 more on the street level. I kinda got a bit worried that my 'date' and I will have to walk through a maze of onlooking eyes. Didn't try but as one member posted Akmani is GF.

Now I am at the Ambhara and as usual no issues, they know me now so walking past in no problem. Just the onlookers that are around are a bit much.

About prices, it varies a lot. In Dec./Jan. 2010 girls were actually quoting 1M at My Bar, but did get them down to 500,000, they wouldn't go much less.

Now I am here in May 2010 and they are quoting 300,000, which is fine for me. That's what I believe the going rate is. Lots of girls in My Bar yesterday.

However I suspected that the girl I was with wasn't 100% female. I lived in Bangkok for some time and was quite knowledgeable about LB. But this one last night didn't seem to be all lady.

Will keep on adventuring and report back here.

[QUOTE=Mentos 1]Hi guys,

Can I find out where can I get good quality gals for overnight?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Looks like you are very lazy ... everything has been laid out in the forum for you ... all you had to do was RTFF ...

Finally got my room and I had one of the best three some and GFE feeling. One girl licked me all over while one sucked my cock uncapped. I enjoyed

Good Report, sounds brilliant for Rp. 350000. Iam back in Jakarta in Juli and like to try a nice threesome. Where is Classic Hotel? Can you send me the adress of this beautiful spot?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bkk212]Lots of girls in My Bar yesterday. However I suspected that the girl I was with wasn't 100% female.[/QUOTE]

At Top Gun, the security people and the girls work together to keep waria out. My Bar isn't so strict.

[QUOTE=Bkk212]Hi,

About prices, it varies a lot. In Dec./Jan. 2010 girls were actually quoting 1M at My Bar, but did get them down to 500,000, they wouldn't go much less.

Now I am here in May 2010 and they are quoting 300,000, which is fine for me. That's what I believe the going rate is. Lots of girls in My Bar yesterday.

Will keep on adventuring and report back here.[/QUOTE]I heard a lot of quotes from the Block recently. The most expensive was 1M in My Bar, but for two ladys ST. I started to walk away, and they came down quickly 800, then finally to 700.

[QUOTE=Bkk212]Hi,
Here's an update on hotels that I have stayed at in JKT:
<SNIP>

Ambhara hotel - stayed here many times, very nice hotel, clean, good service, close to Blok M, good size tv, lots of english programs, small gym but ok, can manage with the gym, very GF, but be aware the walk of shame starts at Blok M
<SNIP>
[/QUOTE]

I think the dreaded Walk of Shame is mostly in a persons head.
Some years ago I stayed in the Ibis Slipi (very girl friendly, by the way) while there was an international golf tournament in Jakarta. The organisation had lodged a number of the players in Ibis Slipi and made sure the players were well looked after.
So naturally every moning there was a lot of fond goodbyes between golfers and Sweet Young Things at the front door of the hotel. Of course this did not go unnoticed by other hotel guests and on various occasions I heard people say how remarkable it was that so many golf players were married to Indonesian women :-)

Regards,
Ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Ko]I think the dreaded Walk of Shame is mostly in a persons head.
Some years ago I stayed in the Ibis Slipi (very girl friendly, by the way) while there was an international golf tournament in Jakarta. The organisation had lodged a number of the players in Ibis Slipi and made sure the players were well looked after.
So naturally every moning there was a lot of fond goodbyes between golfers and Sweet Young Things at the front door of the hotel. Of course this did not go unnoticed by other hotel guests and on various occasions I heard people say how remarkable it was that so many golf players were married to Indonesian women :-)

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]Ya know I've stayed in hotels north, central, south. Its never bothered me. She walks in with me, and on the way out I walk the girl down to the lobby and out front and wait with her for the taxi (usually). Never really cared what others think.

[QUOTE=Bkk212]Hi,
Can't say that I tried at the Akmani as there were too many people around.
Went down at about 1:00am and there were 2 guys at the desk, 1 person at the front door, 3 couples hanging around on the patio, 3 security guards on the first level and 3 more on the street level. I kinda got a bit worried that my 'date' and I will have to walk through a maze of onlooking eyes. Didn't try but as one member posted Akmani is GF.

Now I am at the Ambhara and as usual no issues, they know me now so walking past in no problem. Just the onlookers that are around are a bit much.

About prices, it varies a lot. In Dec./Jan. 2010 girls were actually quoting 1M at My Bar, but did get them down to 500,000, they wouldn't go much less.

Now I am here in May 2010 and they are quoting 300,000, which is fine for me. That's what I believe the going rate is. Lots of girls in My Bar yesterday.

However I suspected that the girl I was with wasn't 100% female. I lived in Bangkok for some time and was quite knowledgeable about LB. But this one last night didn't seem to be all lady.

Will keep on adventuring and report back here.[/QUOTE]
I can confirm what KL Guy said; this hotel is gf - absolutely no issues. I think the walk of shame is in your head - not really the concerns of people in the hotel. If, however, you still feel awkward, don't go up the stairs into the lobby, but walk around the side into the car park and take the lift straight to your room without even seeing the lobby. I also took a girl down this way as she left a bit late in the morning and didn't have "normal" clothes to wear. Just walked her straight out and got her a taxi so she didn't have to do the "walk of shame";).

If your girl wasn't all lady, I can see how you might feel embarrassed - though why you took "her" when you had your suspicions is beyond me...

MD II

[QUOTE=Mentos 1]Hi guys,

Can I find out where can I get good quality gals for overnight?

Thanks[/QUOTE]


Yes Sure. You can find out if you RTFF

Cheers

HI,
Met the same girl again on Sunday but she was with a friend. So just hung out at My Bar for a while.

Then they decided to return with me to my hotel and that's when it got a bit complicated. One girl was fine to go with me but here friend kept insisting that I order room service for her and that she will leave after she finishes eating. Didn't bother to order as service was closed but then she wanted me to pay her for the evening. Told her I don't understand I never invited her but let her hang around and I also bought drinks, now the friend was hitting me up for money.

To solve the problem I sent them both away. I don't mind helping people but those who insist that I pay them for nothing I can't handle.

About the walk of shame it true it's in my head but I people do stare and it's a bit uncomfortable.

Next time I will try to give the married look.

Tonight out for the 3 some adventure, will report again.

The walk of shame never really bothered me. It was the fact that coworkers might also be lingering around the lobby, and that would have been very uncool.

[QUOTE=KL Guy]In actual fact you pay only an extra of 30 to 40K for a very nice & comfy Mercedes Limo used by Silverbird to central Jakarta and I use it especially when there is a line of people waiting for BB cabs at the airport![/QUOTE]

Generally waiting time at Silver Bird airport stand is zero but at BB can be up to 20 minutes. Moreover, if on a bussiness trip: Silver Bird drivers can give you a receipt.

NO

[QUOTE=Koperen Ko]I think the dreaded Walk of Shame is mostly in a persons head.............
Ko[/QUOTE]

Let's face it: do you really pay attention if you see a bule with a nice indonesian girl walking through the lobby? I sometimes invite them for breakfast (but only if no collegues are staying in the same hotel)

NO

[QUOTE=Mentos 1]Hey there,

I will be going Jakarta in May, can I find out where is the best place I can hook out with pretty gals for overnight in my hotel for a price of course?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
RTFF!

Three well-known places are all located in 5-star hotels: BATS in Hotel Shangri-La, the Tiga Puluh Bar in Le Meridien Hotel and C.J.'s at Hotel Mulia (not Hotel Melia). Please don't overpay - recent reports suggest a price of 300,000 rupiah for short-time, maybe 500,000 to 600,000 for all night. There is absolutely no need to pay 1 million - if the girl asks for that much, either negotiate down or find another girl who's not as greedy.

The bars at Blok M (Jalan Falatehan) are also a good place. You could also go mall-hunting.

In case you're interested in in-call massage places, two higher-level spas are located inside Hotel Alexis and Hotel Malioboro. Lower-level places include Kartika Spa and Berlian Spa (located next to each other in same alley) and Hotel Travel, all located in the northern part of town near Jalan Mangga Besar, and Maribaya Spa in Hotel Melawai located near Blok M.

RTFF and if you use the Search function you should easily find detailed reports on all of these places, and many other places as well.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]RTFF!

Three well-known places are all located in 5-star hotels: BATS in Hotel Shangri-La, the Tiga Puluh Bar in Le Meridien Hotel and C.J.'s at Hotel Mulia (not Hotel Melia). Please don't overpay - recent reports suggest a price of 300,000 rupiah for short-time, maybe 500,000 to 600,000 for all night. There is absolutely no need to pay 1 million - if the girl asks for that much, either negotiate down or find another girl who's not as greedy.[/QUOTE]Yes, in the OH MY category, recently gents were regailing me with stories of (pointing out a girl in the bar) 'what a steal she was i got her for 600', then complain that she was gone in 45 minutes. The girls will ask for astronomical amounts (800 for ST), but she's willing to go for 300 or 350 from the M bars. If its after 1am she will go LT for 2-300 more. Some gals that talk ST stay LT anyway. Some girls will refuse these prices. Dont get the feeling that her insistance for higher is normal. Get used to the idea that you are going to chat up several girls on your particulars. One or more will run out of there for a number that starts with THREE. More later on a bidding war that two girls in D's place got into with me one night - each offering successively lower prices.

[QUOTE=Crystal Maiden]Went to Hotel Classic and went to the first floor Massage Spa. When I was quoted the price. I realised it's not the right place. So I walked out. And went to the third floor and found the right place.

Walked in and din see what I like yet. So decided to wait. There was so much choice. In the end I opted for the 350 000 rph for 2 girls package. I picked 2 girls and had to wait damn long for a room. Looks wise both were 7s.

One mistake I made was picking too early because there were some hotter chicks appearing but I can't change my mind anymore.

After half an hour, finally got my room and I had one of the best three some and GFE feeling. One girl licked me all over while one sucked my cock uncapped. I enjoyed fucking one chick while the other one licked me all over. One thing to note, they change condoms whenever you want to change your partners, that's very hygenic but if you want to keep changing, it's a lot of hassle. Overall. Enjoyable threesome with two hotties for only 350 000. That's a super bargain! Gave both 100 000 rph each as tips. Worth all the rph.

Thanks for recommending Hotel Classic forum. You guys rocked![/QUOTE]Good Report, sounds brilliant for Rp. 350000. Iam back in Jakarta in Juli and like to try a nice threesome. Where is Classic Hotel? Can anybody reply and send me the adress of this spot where those things happen?

Thanks

I had been told that Classic is the happening place in town as they had the promotion going for two gals at 350k. Decided to go early to beat the crowd as my friend waited for almost an hour for a room at night. Well I think the promotion is off as I was quoted 400k for two gals. And who said the indons do not like to fuck, I was there early at around 2pm and there was a healthy crowd sitting around the bar, well much more crowded than I expected.

There were not too many gals yet, but I could see there was a slow but steady increase on gals coming to sit on the sofas and walking around. I guessed there were around 30 girls around 2.30pm. I had a hard time choosing as none of the gals offered caught my fancy. I was just relaxing, checking the gals out and noticed this really hot looking gal walking to sit at the corner with her group. Quickly called the mommy to arrange a booking.

I had to be quick as an earlier gal that I fancy was snapped quickly. It would have been great to do a threesome with both gals that I fancied. Anyway, the gal I chose was even lovelier up close and I settled on her while mommy kept recommending a second gal as partner. None that I really liked, so just chose one with a sexy body. Mistake as the second gal's body turned out to be less than ok, body was getting flabby and face was a 5.5. So choose your gal slowly, carefully and up close, do not let the mommy pressurized you into choosing quickly. This was offset by the first gal though. Anyway, the service was really quite good and both gals offered really good service. Considering this was my first threesome, I was very satisfied.

Went back to the lounge area at around 4.30pm and the place was getting much more crowded. Selection of gals had increased to around... not too sure, just a lot more! And this was only at 4.30pm, there were more choices and prettier gals around, would love to come by later and see how the place gets going at night.

This is the address: Jl K.H Samanhudi No.43-45 Jakarta - Pusat, Indonesia. Phone. (021) 385-2000. Go to the second floor, not the basement spa.

Was chatting with a sweet friend of mine last night. Jakarta girl with a really nice heart. Sadly her heart was damaged so much shes run away from Jakarta for a week to mend it.

Seems she had been dating a "Canadian bass player in a Jakarta hotel band ". Well theres obviously not many of them.

Seems he had another permanent girl in Bali. Who called the one in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]RTFF!

Please don't overpay - recent reports suggest a price of 300,000 rupiah for short-time, maybe 500,000 to 600,000 for all night. [/QUOTE]

I concur on the going rate, 300k ST. Last month, I pulled on two different nights from Blok M for 300k ST. One was younger and nice looking. The other was milf and went BBFS with pics for that amount. My ISG wingman was similarly pulling them out for 300k. They would start at 600k ST and come down, or try to sell a a 2 girl ST with their wingcewek for 600k ST. It's a bluff most of the time, but some have stubborn pride and will do a hard sell until very late when they finally give up and sell at 300k.

Smart ones will sell for 300k and take several ST's per night making a lot. Dumb ones will hold high at 5-600 and go home at dawn with only 300k or perhaps nothing. One held at 500k ST until 4 AM. I got her back to the hotel with the agreement of 300k, but I kicked her out before session due to irreconcilable differences. She only got cab fare home. If she had sold LT at 600k earlier at 11 pm like I asked, she would have been treated well and went home with maybe 700k total. Her hard sell had me aggravated, so when we got to the hotel and she said no pics and wanted money up front, as if I was still wet behind the balls and just scored my first pro poontang yesterday..she ruined it for herself. I bust my nuts dry during the daytime as SOP, so have particular need to tolerate drama from night time girls and had no hesitation in kicking her out without further thought.

The hard sell is just annoying. Anything over 300k ST/600K LT, and Thailand or Phillipines becomes much more attractive. Ceweks are known to be joining ISG to find paying dick, and half of them in Blok M go the whole night without a single taker, only to scramble for 300k at closing time. They should know that better looking ceweks at Hotel Travel are fucking us well for 300k. bareback. ass rimming, CIM inclusive. Kartika FS with soapy for 265k. And they probably only get to keep half of that in their pocket after the house takes their cut. So 300K is still too much in Blok M, practically speaking.

Hi,
I do agree with some of the comments here as the 'ladies' at Blok M are starting (well for me anyway) at 600K ST. I don't even try to bargain down as I know that later on they have to drop their prices.

My view is if they start that high it's not worth it. I try to find the one that's not so greedy, tough going but have found a few since I have been here.

I negotiate for 300K ST and if they are 'good' will tip them.

Met one last nigh at Blok M she said that she works as cashier somewhere, but I know that a cover story. She was ok and will repeat once again tonight. If she shows up.

[QUOTE=Bkk212]Hi,
I do agree with some of the comments here as the 'ladies' at Blok M are starting (well for me anyway) at 600K ST. I don't even try to bargain down as I know that later on they have to drop their prices.
[/QUOTE]

No disrespect intended to anyone but there are always two sides to this argument. Yes, she absolutely loses out. But I'm not her banker or advisor... And if your time is worth 300K to wait, then stretch it out for the wee hours of the night to get laid :)

Personally, while I don't want to ruin the market price, and now getting along in age & needing more sleep, I'd rather pay the premium, get some nice pussy and then hit the sack.

That's another reason why it often pays to just go to the Travel Hotel or similar place - standard price, usually standard service, and if she's hot, book a second hour.

As far as comparison to Bkk or Philippines, the pricing there varies greatly too. You can pull a quickie from Bier Garten on the cheap or go to Soi 33 and spend more than US$100.

I'm looking forward to landing Saturday in Jkt and seeing what's changed since my last visit....

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Seems she had been dating a "Canadian bass player in a Jakarta hotel band ". Well theres obviously not many of them.[/QUOTE]
Anyone knows what happened to the old favorite - and very very popular - CJs band (with the greek singer who made awesome Eminen covers and was a show by himself) that set every night the place on fire between 2002 and 2004 ?

Heard two or three years ago that they performed in Kamasutra Club in Kuta ?!? ...the singer was married to an Indo girl ....any update ??

Landed yesterday night from BKK around 11. 30 pm, took a silver bird to mercure resko 185 krp all in all, by 1. 45 am went to suncity next door it seems it's more a karaoke place than a disco, mostly empty with some dancer on stage after 1 drink went to X2 disco, empty with mainly a young crowed, then by 3 am went to alexis also empty got chatted by 2 freelance not in my tasting called it a night and went back to hotel for a good sleep

Looks like in week day action is really calm.

Today went to classic hotel (tell taksi " metro pasar baru " coming from gaja mada it's just after a bridge), the previous promotion, 2 gal for 350 krp is ended now it's 400 krp, took 2 for a session bodys not so nice

Now it's 8 pm will check king cross.

I'm staying 8 more nights if fellow mongers are around let's meet.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]The easiest way is to find the Mercure Grand Rekso hotel on Jalan Hayam Wuruk, just north of Jalan Mangga Besar and directly in front of the Olimo stop of the Transjakarta busway.

Stand in front of the hotel with the hotel behind you, and turn left. Walk down 50 meters, cross Jalan Mangga Besar and keep walking down Jalan Hayam Wuruk. The building on your left will have an Indomart convenience store, an Alfamart convenience store, and a CFC (California Fried Chicken) store.

After this building is an alley on your left, Alley #1. Look down and you should easily see the signs for Kartika and Berlian massage parlors, also Royal Mas mp.

If you don't turn left, the next building will have Suisse Bakery on the corner, then 3 more alleys on your left (alleys #2, 3 & 4). Alley #2 is where you'll find several mps, including the mp where the girl who does the Madura squeeze works (see recent posts by Oyenk and me on this subject). Alley #4 is where you'll find the entrance to Stadium; at this point you'll have reached the Mangga Besar stop of the busway.[/QUOTE]Great directions. Couldn't have found these places without them.

[QUOTE=Bkk212]Met one last nigh at Blok M she said that she works as cashier somewhere, but I know that a cover story. She was ok and will repeat once again tonight. If she shows up.[/QUOTE]One said she could only go ST because she had a job to get to the next day. Off we went to the hotel. Then off she went before daybreak. The next day I'm having an early lunch in the Senayan Plaza food court on the third floor, and there she was bussing the tables. Will post pics later.

Went to king cross last night, sexy show going on from 8. 30pm apparently only naked to the breast choose a girl and went on 2nd and surprise. No water in room's shower so I canceled the session after waiting 15 min with no water coming, should have been 300krp for 1 hour

Today went to alexis, there's some works going on in the lounge area but still full of girls! Stayed 4 hours in all and had a Chinese selection, damn the girl was so hot that I came to soon to enjoy it really, service was ok not crazy

Next time will go for a cheap release. Before going alexis!

DC: 2 250 000 rp incl. Food and 2 beer, expensive but worth it if you're not a sooner.

After at 8. 30 pm went for Taman sari 75, little bit weird. Went inside to the tv room there were no ladies a guy went to the backroom and came back saying no girls, so don't know if I have to take it personaly or as a bulay!

So headed to hotel travel next door, service as usual, price gone up or maybe it's the hour but got quoted 300 krp remember it for 285 krp not so long ago.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I concur on the going rate, 300k ST. Last month, I pulled on two different nights from Blok M for 300k ST. One was younger and nice looking. The other was milf and went BBFS with pics for that amount. My ISG wingman was similarly pulling them out for 300k. They would start at 600k ST and come down, or try to sell a a 2 girl ST with their wingcewek for 600k ST. It's a bluff most of the time, but some have stubborn pride and will do a hard sell until very late when they finally give up and sell at 300k.

[/QUOTE]

I hate bargaining with a girl I'm going to take with me so my policy for blok M is simple:
I just take the initiative and tell them that I pay 300 ST and 500 LT before they quote a price. If they put up a to hard bargain, I politely laugh, decline and turn to another girl. When I visit Blok M now, they all know that that is my price and I have never problems with bargaining

Have fun,

NO

[QUOTE=Non Olet]I hate bargaining with a girl I'm going to take with me so my policy for blok M is simple:

I just take the initiative and tell them that I pay 300 ST and 500 LT before they quote a price. If they put up a to hard bargain, I politely laugh, decline and turn to another girl. When I visit Blok M now, they all know that that is my price and I have never problems with bargaining

Have fun,

NO[/QUOTE]Love that man's policy. I think many men have one girl walk away who insists on a higher amount, and he assumes she's quoting the going rate; makes guys feel bad. Nonsense man. Half the girls in the joint will ST for 3-4 (gladly). An amazing story another time that comes from another board member regarding price.

First of all I would like to thank all the contributors of the forum. I RTFF and really learned a lot from their experience. I never been to Jakarta so I urge the readers to read my following summary with caution. They might not reflect the reality. However I believe most of the information is precise.

Any way, even after RTTF there are still some questions that I would like the seasoned forum members might consider to share the answers with me as well as the others if they can find some spare time.

In terms of LT service, at the Northern Part of Jakarta there seems to be few alternatives;

1 - Taman Sari 75 and 57: Where you can check after 6 PM. It seems that the LT rate is around 600 K. However there are reports (dating 3-4 years ago) which states that these houses services to only the Asian customers. They don't like to serve the bules. Is it still the case? Or that attitude changed?

2- Stadium Disco: I am not sure about the LT rate and seems it depends on your negotiation skills and date and time. But again it is around 5-600 K.

Other than this 2 places the rest of the places are mostly serving for ST (or LT is not very common). These places are Hotel Travel (ST 300K and many SYT), Tintin, Bintang Mawar, etc. There are two massage shops Kartika and Berlain where you have soapy massage for about 300 K. There are also some bars with in house facilities again for ST such as LA, Royal, MTR and Sari Ayu all are closer to each other and in a neighbourhood called (Pangeran - North East of Hotel Travel ?).

There is also a bar which was very popular named Todays Country but after many Police Raids it is not same as it used to be any more. Again SYT were working in the bar with nude shows and ST was 300K (or so) My third question is

3- Any updates regarding the TC?

In terms of the Southern part of the city the major place is the Palatehan Road (Closae to Blok M Square - and known as the Blok M Bars). DsPlace, TopGun, My Bar, are some of the popular bars. The LT at these bars are again depends on negotiation , date and time. But normally 600 K should be the upper limit. In terms of the ST there is a major difference in the definition of ST. The ST for the Northern part refers to 1 hour or 1 shot (whichever is first) but ST in these bars mostly refers to 3 hours and Multiple Shots. However there are conflicting reports on this issues.

So My fourth question is;

4- ST in Blok M bars refers to what? 3 Hours and Multiple Shots or 1 Hour or it is also negotiable? One another thing is what if One stays in a hotel that is at the northern part of the city but negotiates for ST. Just transportation for both ways seems to be 1.5-2 hours during late midnight.

There are two famous hotel bars BATS and CJs. One can find LT for 500K + in these bars. The major problem is the ladies are mostly older (which means 30+ I presume??)

Finally there is also Terminal Classic which is neither North nor South (seems center slightly closer to north) where there is a promotion now a days threesome with 2 ladies for 390K (1 Hour - 1 Shot).

So I would appreciate if you can correct this information and provide answers to some of my questions.

Thanks.

PS. In terms of my plans, I will stay in North. I prefer LT in the hotel. So I will try Taman Sari and Stadium first. My second option seems to be the Blok M Bars. But during day times I will surely visit Hotel Travel and maybe Terminal Classic. I would appreciate if you have further suggestions. I would like to try Todays Country but seems it is dead.

[quote=indozikas] 1 - taman sari 75 and 57: where you can check after 6 pm. it seems that the lt rate is around 600 k. however there are reports (dating 3-4 years ago) which states that these houses services to only the asian customers. they don't like to serve the bules. is it still the case? or that attitude changed?[/quote]coincidentally, jad took me over for a quick peek last night and there is a short term hotel right next door: royal regal hotel. i think jad mentioned they don't serve indians but bules are ok. 250k for 3 hrs, 600k overnight. girls are 5/6 range, mostly from villages, fresh meat but you'll probably have to teach them ;)

if you don't find anything you like, travel hotel is close by.

[quote=indozikas]4- st in blok m bars refers to what? 3 hours and multiple shots or 1 hour or it is also negotiable? [/quote]yes to all of above

[quote=indozikas]there are two famous hotel bars bats and cjs. one can find lt for 500k + in these bars. the major problem is the ladies are mostly older (which means 30+ i presume??)[/quote]old and new, most then move over to blok m later in the night.

by the way, finished an overnight with one of my old-timers....nice to be back after two year absence :)

[QUOTE=Indozikas]
One another thing is what if One stays in a hotel that is at the northern part of the city but negotiates for ST. Just transportation for both ways seems to be 1.5-2 hours during late midnight.
[/QUOTE]

If you mean the Mangga Besar area hotels, don't worry. It's about a 0.5 hour or less by taxi at that time of night.

Your choice of hotels could be made to suit your mongering style.

If you are primarily a LT monger like you suggest, it's easier to stay at someplace like Ambahara or even Atlet Century that has good access to the Blok M meat market bars. Maybe you should thing about staying to the south like this.

If you change your mind and would rather take many different SYT's on a ST basis, then Mercure Hayam Wuruk makes a good base for that. I stayed there last month and enjoyed the local scene, and found it easy enough to get to Blok M from there...but I think I spent more time at Hotel Travel than at my hotel. :)

[QUOTE=Evianist]Great directions. Couldn't have found these places without them.[/QUOTE]
You're welcome! And I'm impressed that you found these directions, as that post is not that recent.

Does any one know this place [url]http://www.Vimeo.com/11582857[/url]

Look at the video he got special permission to film inside. And the lady's that work there? Can somebody please tell me more about this v2 lounge prices options is it the same like Alexis maybe? Very much thanks for all info.

[QUOTE=Blacka0]Does any one know this place [url]http://www.Vimeo.com/11582857[/url]

Look at the video he got special permission to film inside. And the lady's that work there? Can somebody please tell me more about this v2 lounge prices options is it the same like Alexis maybe? Very much thanks for all info.[/QUOTE]

I might be wrong, but I think JAD and I were there in the karaoke section on an invitation by brother P., also known as "James Bond". Maybe he can give more information.

[QUOTE=Blacka0]Does any one know this place [url]http://www.Vimeo.com/11582857[/url]

Look at the video he got special permission to film inside. And the lady's that work there? Can somebody please tell me more about this v2 lounge prices options is it the same like Alexis maybe? Very much thanks for all info.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2009/01/v2-jl-gadja-madah-500-meters-before.html[/url]

Looks expensive from what the comments say about this place. Probably your typical up-scale North Jakarta place favored by the local Chinese.

I am planning my first trip to Jakarta soon. Probably 21st to 23rd May Fri- Sunday. Very excited after reading the forum.

I am basically interested in some fun at these amazing nightclubs people have been talking about, in particular alexis and smaller/ Im after real quality high end girls . Got expensive taste but i dont do this often, its my once in a while splurge. Do they have karoke girls aswell who you can choose from a parade and they with you in the room and then can take back.

Will be on my own..if anyone cares to join me and meet up please let me know.

By the way im not a bule..will that mean i will have problems getting the girls at these high end places. A friend was telling me that you ar disadvantaged in jkt if your not a bule? True?

[QUOTE=Faaris]I am planning my first trip to Jakarta soon. Probably 21st to 23rd May Fri- Sunday. Very excited after reading the forum.

I am basically interested in some fun at these amazing nightclubs people have been talking about, in particular alexis and smaller/ Im after real quality high end girls . Got expensive taste but i dont do this often, its my once in a while splurge. Do they have karoke girls aswell who you can choose from a parade and they with you in the room and then can take back.

Will be on my own..if anyone cares to join me and meet up please let me know.

By the way im not a bule..will that mean i will have problems getting the girls at these high end places. A friend was telling me that you ar disadvantaged in jkt if your not a bule? True?[/QUOTE]Faaris,

If you love high end night club like myself Jarkata is the city for you, if you like expensive club and disco for hot high quality lady, the Alexis, red square and Millenum is the place to go.

Fast Eddie 48

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1019557&postcount=1290[/url]

I'm in TG one night when this wisp of a skinny thing walks up and puts her hand in mine. Really skinny. Like a walking stick. No chat, she's just eyeing the dance floor with me. After about 2 minutes she says "I stay you tonight." I wasn't very interested in her. But everywhere I went, she went. I told her I was going across the street, to see my wingman, and she came with me. In MB I ran into an old flame. Completely ignoring the walking stick, old flame hugs me and starts chatting me up. "I missed you. I worry you. Where are you been?" Etc. She kind of pushed herself between walking stick and me. I ended up dumping the skinny girl for the flame. Skinny girl just walked off into the crowd of girls on the dance floor. What a mistake. Old flame and I have a beer and chat. She is a red-hot lover, and previously she has stayed LT just for fun instead of ST. However, I've also had some drama with her and shes put on some weight, so I told her I was not interested tonight. Maybe another night. She got a hurt look on her face (go figure) and pouted. I told her she could come with me, but only for taxi money. I figured that would get rid of her. Nope. She said "OK we go." I reiterated that I had no money for her, just taxi money the next morning. Away we went. In the room we get into bed and a wild 45-minute session followed (really, she’s white hot in bed), and she stepped into the can. I flipped off the lights thinking she’s coming back to bed to sleep. When she came out a minute later she’s completely dressed, jacket and all. "You pay me now. 300. And taxi." Ah crap, last thing I wanted was an argument. I gave her 200 for 'taxi'. Jeez that resulted in her standing at the door, counting the two 100K bills repeatedly, saying “Not enough. 300. Not enough. 300.” Over, and over, and over. I got mad and picked up my camera and snapped a pic of her counting the two bills. She turned and went out the door and slammed it hard so everyone could hear it. I was a bit steamed myself. Jeez what happened to that girl who previously lived for the morning session? And stupid me. Guess I should know better.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Love that man's policy. I think many men have one girl walk away who insists on a higher amount, and he assumes she's quoting the going rate; makes guys feel bad. Nonsense man. Half the girls in the joint will ST for 3-4 (gladly). An amazing story another time that comes from another board member regarding price.[/QUOTE]My standard reply to the question is to ask her how much she will pay me (always said with a smile). It usually elicits a smile in reply and ends the topic. Obviously if its also asked in Bahasa it shows that you have been around the block and already know fair prices

BTW 300/500k is also my standard price if I go to them. I add 100k in taxi fare if I call them and they come straight to the hotel.

Happy hunting

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Faaris,

If you love high end night club like myself Jarkata is the city for you, if you like expensive club and disco for hot high quality lady, the Alexis, red square and Millenum is the place to go.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Thanks mate. So is there a best time so i can get the best pick of the girls and what is the most i should pay for a top top girl?

[QUOTE=Goferring]My standard reply to the question is to ask her how much she will pay me (always said with a smile). It usually elicits a smile in reply and ends the topic. Obviously if its also asked in Bahasa it shows that you have been around the block and already know fair prices

BTW 300/500k is also my standard price if I go to them. I add 100k in taxi fare if I call them and they come straight to the hotel.

Happy hunting[/QUOTE]

Yes 300 is the only price I will pay for fucklets from Falatehan.

Plus 100 if I call up the fucklet and she comes to my place. Anything more is spoiling the market

[QUOTE=Westcoast1][url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1019557&postcount=1290[/url]

I'm in TG one night when this wisp of a skinny thing walks up and puts her hand in mine. Really skinny. Like a walking stick. No chat, she's just eyeing the dance floor with me. After about 2 minutes she says "I stay you tonight." I wasn't very interested in her. But everywhere I went, she went. I told her I was going across the street, to see my wingman, and she came with me. In MB I ran into an old flame. Completely ignoring the walking stick, old flame hugs me and starts chatting me up. "I missed you. I worry you. Where are you been?" Etc. She kind of pushed herself between walking stick and me. I ended up dumping the skinny girl for the flame. Skinny girl just walked off into the crowd of girls on the dance floor. What a mistake. Old flame and I have a beer and chat. She is a red-hot lover, and previously she has stayed LT just for fun instead of ST. However, I've also had some drama with her and shes put on some weight, so I told her I was not interested tonight. Maybe another night. She got a hurt look on her face (go figure) and pouted. I told her she could come with me, but only for taxi money. I figured that would get rid of her. Nope. She said "OK we go." I reiterated that I had no money for her, just taxi money the next morning. Away we went. In the room we get into bed and a wild 45-minute session followed (really, she’s white hot in bed), and she stepped into the can. I flipped off the lights thinking she’s coming back to bed to sleep. When she came out a minute later she’s completely dressed, jacket and all. "You pay me now. 300. And taxi." Ah crap, last thing I wanted was an argument. I gave her 200 for 'taxi'. Jeez that resulted in her standing at the door, counting the two 100K bills repeatedly, saying “Not enough. 300. Not enough. 300.” Over, and over, and over. I got mad and picked up my camera and snapped a pic of her counting the two bills. She turned and went out the door and slammed it hard so everyone could hear it. I was a bit steamed myself. Jeez what happened to that girl who previously lived for the morning session? And stupid me. Guess I should know better.[/QUOTE]

There aren't too many women there that can avoid becoming hard cored professionals. They'll lie to get whatever even if you came up short of what she was truly hoping for, the fact is, she got you back to the room and got cash out of it. Better than being at Blok M all night and getting nothing. Don't usually take anyone I've seen on the Blok for real long time. Everyone is different, but have to make a judgment on how long on the scene, how they're acting (hardcore) and stuff if it's worth it or not.

[quote=key master]there aren't too many women there that can avoid becoming hard cored professionals. they'll lie to get whatever even if you came up short of what she was truly hoping for, the fact is, she got you back to the room and got cash out of it. better than being at blok m all night and getting nothing. don't usually take anyone i've seen on the blok for real long time. everyone is different, but have to make a judgment on how long on the scene, how they're acting (hardcore) and stuff if it's worth it or not.[/quote]km, she's been on the block for years. what was interesting in the speed at which she turned hard-core. she must have known before she left the bar she was going to pull that crap, even though she agreed to taxi only. interestingly i was fine with just cuddling up for the evening with some tv and sleep; she instigated the naughty (obviously to get out of there quickly). lesson learned huh.

got me done up good. reference pix:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1018779&postcount=1289[/url]

i walk into my bar one night. its about 10, too early and dead. nobody playing pool. at the counter seats next to the dance floor are 3 girls, txting, ignoring the loud music, bored. at the bar is one bule and one girl. oddly he has his hands on her shoulders. she looks serious, he looks happy. as i'm walking by them to the far end of the bar, he snaps the girls shoulders 90 degrees clockwise, turning her real fast to face the bathrooms. she did not find that funny. then he snapped her back to face him. i was surprised at the speed of it. she pushed his hands off and walked away. i sat and got a beer, and the happy guy sloshed over to me (he was sauced good on beer). young, 30 or so. handsome. happy as hell. introduces himself with a heavy german accent. giddy like a kid in a candy store. i asked what happened with the girl, he said the girls in this bar didn't like him. shock, since he liked to spin them like a top. "they krazzzeeee here they dont like meeee." he said he was new and just arrived in jakarta. he seemed like a nervous 12-year old boy around the girls. i told him he could have one to take to his room and he asked how to get them (i nearly fell over). i said for about $40 american dollars one would go to his room for 'massage'.

"are you krazzzeee? you trying to starve the girls? forty dollar? is not enough!" and so on about giving her more. "ah maybeee one hundred." like that. ok fine, guy. i crooked my finger at the nearest girl who had been txting and she came over to us. i figured this could be her lucky night. 20-ish, very cute. i told her the german was new in town, and would she like to go to st with him for 800k. figured that would get the girl some good money, and get the drunk out of the bar. she looked him in the eye and said, “no. never. no.” it was not a pleasant look. he said, “you zeeee???” and with that, he put the tip of his index finger on her chest and pushed her backwards good. if she had not had her butt backed up against my leg she would have smacked into the bar (my leg took that blow). the girl instinctively put her arm around my waist and pulled herself close to me. one of the guys working there came over and put his hand on the german’s shoulder and asked me if everything was ok. without waiting for an answer, the employee dragged the german to the other end of the bar by his shirtsleeve.

i apologized to the girl figuring she would go back near her friends. she held on to me for a minute and then asked if i wanted to dance with her. there was nobody on the dance floor and i don’t dance so i declined. she moved a foot away from me and started to dance for me. “i like a dance.” she danced and danced for nearly an hour as the crowd slowly rolled in. i tried buying her a drink. “i not drink. i not smoke. i like dance. i dance for you tonight.” she kept dancing in front of me like tomorrow was not coming. worth the price of admission just to watch her shake her @ss :). smiling and happy, sometimes she’d look down towards the (still drunk) german and glare. about 11 she got chatty, asking the usual questions, where you from where you staying. then she asked if we could go to my place. we ran thru the quick negotiation for st and off we went.

a bit shy around the camera at first in the room, then got used to it. sweet, very cute. i’ve posted her pics in the photo thread. she balked at nothing, no holes barred, and finished with a nice bbbjcimws. she rinsed in the shower, crawled back in bed and asked if i wanted a massage – great touch. i said no, just some tv. she curled up with her head on my shoulder and proceeded to doze off. so quiet, even after i turned the tv off, could barely make out her breathing. that was about 1am. i wake up and the sun is well up. checking my phone its almost 9. she’s still asleep. her phone starts vibrating in the drawer. she woke up and i handed it to her. a gruff man’s voice on the other end (father is looking for her). we chat a few minutes, then she had to go. rinse, kiss, walked her to the lobby and taxi, exchanged numbers, she asked if i would take her to disco one night. oh yeah.

[QUOTE=Key Master]There aren't too many women there that can avoid becoming hard cored professionals. They'll lie to get whatever even if you came up short of what she was truly hoping for, the fact is, she got you back to the room and got cash out of it. Better than being at Blok M all night and getting nothing. Don't usually take anyone I've seen on the Blok for real long time. Everyone is different, but have to make a judgment on how long on the scene, how they're acting (hardcore) and stuff if it's worth it or not.[/QUOTE]

YMMV.
I have been coming to Indonesia for 20 years now and I started mongering in the Hotmen Bar (yes, fond memories) before moving to Blok M. In Blok M there are some girls that I have been "dating" for a couple of years and, like good wines, they improve with ageing. Also I have a couple of favourites in Maribaya who are happy to come to my hotel room for some extra fun (and of course money). I can heartily recommend Tutik (pronounced Tuti), she of the fabulous BBBJ, who I have been meeting for 3 years now.

[QUOTE=Koperen Ko]YMMV.
I have been coming to Indonesia for 20 years now and I started mongering in the Hotmen Bar (yes, fond memories) before moving to Blok M. In Blok M there are some girls that I have been "dating" for a couple of years and, like good wines, they improve with ageing. Also I have a couple of favourites in Maribaya who are happy to come to my hotel room for some extra fun (and of course money). I can heartily recommend Tutik (pronounced Tuti), she of the fabulous BBBJ, who I have been meeting for 3 years now.[/QUOTE]

Just to clarify I didn't say all of them get that way. I still take someone after a few years with her, but pretty much all my other repeats except maybe one other one after a couple of years are not repeatable again in regards to the changes in their thinking and behavior. Also this isn't just for Blok M, it's in general.

Just went to Alexis - had a wonderful Thai girl for Rp 1.6mn. Spoke very little English, but she was moaning and groaning all over the place. I think she came twice.

I took an elevator to the 7th floor and a Mamasan offered drinks, showed me parade of some Uzbek girls (nothing too exciting), Chinese ones (didn't fancy any), Indonesians (some were cute) and Thais.

Indonesians were 1mn, Thais/Chinese 1.6mn and Uzbeks were 2.0mn - the procedure was 30 minutes in the Spa area followed by 1 hour in a private room which was very clean, modern and well done up.

Haven't tried the restaurant (1/F) or the 'Room Service' (5/F). Maybe next time!

Very easy to get there - just told a Bluebird to take me to Alexis. There is a Gamya taxi rank outside (Gamya is part of Bluebird Group) so there is a safe way to get home after having fun.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1]He seemed like a nervous 12-year old boy around the girls. I told him he could have one to take to his room and he asked how to get them (I nearly fell over).[/QUOTE]

Here's a link to an instructional video that might help:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eSflbxXeoo[/url]

I will be back to Jakarta next weekend. I am a fan of Hotel Travel but I also want to test Hotel Classic.

My question:
Which floor is the special service massage (2 girls)?
In one report is it at the 2nd floor and in another at the 3rd floor?
Is it at the Spa or Terminal cafe?

Does the mamasan speak english or only bahasa?

I will add my report after testing.

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Hungry Expat]I will be back to Jakarta next weekend. I am a fan of Hotel Travel but I also want to test Hotel Classic.

My question:

Which floor is the special service massage (2 girls)?

In one report is it at the 2nd floor and in another at the 3rd floor?

Is it at the Spa or Terminal cafe?

Does the mamasan speak english or only bahasa?

I will add my report after testing.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]

3rd floor, used to be Rp. 350k now after promotion is over is Rp. 400K for 2 gals (still cheap) whereas if you take 1 gal is Rp. 240k. Normally girls expect tip at the end of session. I think most mamasans only speak bahasa Indonesia, maybe little English, use sign language would do.

Happy hunting, don't forget to post your FR and pics.

Hi,

I am returning to Jakarta for a short spell next month. Are there any girls now in marabaya that do anal? If not, where would I find one in the blok m area, also, are the Pantai Pijat places still in operation in grogol, on Dr Murwardi?

Thanks

Fieldmouse

[QUOTE=FieldMouse]Hi,

I am returning to Jakarta for a short spell next month. Are there any girls now in marabaya that do anal? If not, where would I find one in the blok m area, also, are the Pantai Pijat places still in operation in grogol, on Dr Murwardi?

Thanks

Fieldmouse[/QUOTE]Bunches of girls in the block will do anal. One says no, walk over to another.

[QUOTE=Hungry Expat]I will be back to Jakarta next weekend. I am a fan of Hotel Travel but I also want to test Hotel Classic.

My question:
Which floor is the special service massage (2 girls)?
In one report is it at the 2nd floor and in another at the 3rd floor?
Is it at the Spa or Terminal cafe?

Does the mamasan speak english or only bahasa?

I will add my report after testing.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]

Insonesians don't count the ground floor as the 1st floor. Terminal Cafe is on "lantai 2".

You'll want to take a taxi to "Hotel Classic", because its about 3.5 kilometers from the Travel Hotel. At the main atium, go up 2 flights of stairs. Then walk around atrium to Terminal Cafe's entrance.

Sky Dog

[QUOTE=Sky Dog]Insonesians don't count the ground floor as the 1st floor. Terminal Cafe is on "lantai 2".

You'll want to take a taxi to "Hotel Classic", because its about 3.5 kilometers from the Travel Hotel. At the main atium, go up 2 flights of stairs. Then walk around atrium to Terminal Cafe's entrance.

Sky Dog[/QUOTE]Sky dog,

What time do hotel classic terminal cafe open,the hotel classic a nice hotelstay overnight and how much are the room there .

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Sky Dog]Insonesians don't count the ground floor as the 1st floor. Terminal Cafe is on "lantai 2".

You'll want to take a taxi to "Hotel Classic", because its about 3.5 kilometers from the Travel Hotel. At the main atium, go up 2 flights of stairs. Then walk around atrium to Terminal Cafe's entrance.

Sky Dog[/QUOTE]

Ok, thanks. I will test it over the weekend and add my report then.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Sky dog,

What time do hotel classic terminal cafe open,the hotel classic a nice hotelstay overnight and how much are the room there .

Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
I don't know the answer to these questions.
Terminal Cafe phone number is 021 344 8435.
Classic Hotel site is [url]http://www.classichoteljakarta.com/[/url]

From what I've seen the facility looks very nice. It also has a disco on the ground floor.

Sky Dog

Reference:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1020047&postcount=4488[/url]

After I dumped skinny girl for chubby-red-hot, and got burned, few days later I'm getting out of the taxi in the street as I reach the Blok about 11. Skinny grabs my hand in the street, says nothing. We waltz thru TG, watch the band for a few minutes. Walk over to MB, she's glued to my hand. No chat. I sit at the bar, get a beer, watch the flora and fauna, all the while ignoring her as she holds my hand and does not speak. As I finish the beer she says "I stay you all night. " I start thinking wouldn't it be easier to just take this one, as opposed to dumping her and looking around and chatting up others. She's not pretty, she's just there. "Its 300 short". She cut me off with "OK OK I stay you all night. " Just like that. I wasn't sure she heard it right so I said, "300 for all night. " "Yes. " I run thru my list of goodies and she nodded yes to each. Off we went.

Once in the taxi and hotel she was chatty-cathy. Fairly good english, smiled a lot, bit of a lisp. Has a son, was in a car accident, showed me the several scars on her legs, shoulder, neck. Interesting as it was still early we sat in the room and talked for almost an hour on the couch before the clothes came off. Pleasant girl once animated and talking. Average performance for BJ, good for all the rest. Liked the camera. Performed once then, sleep, once in morning. No rush to leave, shower, chat, she left about 9:30, a bit later than requested. Was happy with 300+taxi.

Future evenings in the Blok would see her race up to me and hold my hand and stick with me in the same way, often more than an hour, until I chatted and took another girl. At which point she would ask me for 10K. Yes, 10, not 100. Each time she asked it was for cigarretes, gum, taxi, etc. Didn't ask for drinks. One night I run into a buddy and he tells me that the previous evening, when I wasn't in the Blok, the skinny girl hanging on me offered herself to him for: 10K. I thought I heard it wrong over the music, but he laughed and said it again. To make sure I was not completely drunk that night, he just confirmed it again on the email: 10K (not 100). Desperation on her part?

Interesting side note. When in the bar she was wearing a pretty red dress, shoes. When we left she had a tiny hand-purse, the kind large enough to hold a pack of smokes and your ID, fits completely in the palm of the hand. That's all she had. When she took her clothes of there is the dress, shoes, a bra, and black panties. That's it. I'm looking thru the pics just now. The next morning before departure she's wearing the red dress, and a pair of blue jeans underneath. Where the hell did those bluejeans come from?

[QUOTE=FieldMouse]Hi,

I am returning to Jakarta for a short spell next month. Are there any girls now in Marabaya that do anal? If not, where would I find one in the Blok M area, also, are the Pantai Pijat places still in operation in Grogol, on Dr Murwardi?

Thanks

Fieldmouse[/QUOTE]
Most girls at Maribaya Spa won't do anal, but some definitely do. Westcoast1 is right, just ask ahead of time!

Don't know anything about the Dr. Murwardi places in Grogol, hopefully someone else will answer you on that question.

Today I went to Hotel Classic.
Actual the Spa / Massage parlour is not inside the hotel. It is at the Atrium next to the hotel. It is in the same building. You only have to go 2 level up with the escalator.

The system is the same as at Hotel Travel. You will get a number when you enter and you have to pay when you leave. The difference is that on the bill are only the drinks etc. but for the girls you have to pay direct after the selection. That means you pay first and then the action can start. That´s very unusual. Another difference is that you sit in the middle and the girl sit on sofas around you and if you go to the private rooms then you have to cross almost all the girls and they can see you (it is no so hidden as hotel travel). The rooms are good and clean.

I took 2 girls (damage 400k). Tipa or Tirpa and Erna. Tipa told me she is 26 but I guess she is over 30 and Erna is around 19 (that can be true). Tipa was already very excited as we met in the lounge area. Tipa has had a baby for sure and she is a 6. Erna I would say is a 8 (appearance).
Service: I would give Tipa a 8 and Erna only a 5. Tipa took very good care of me and licked my whole body. Erna was more shy and watched more TV then to take care of me.
Kiss, BBJ was no problem. It is very exciting if on each of your nipples a girl sucks and they changed from lick my nipple BBJ and the tongue of Tipa was everywhere. I got 2 shots one with Tipa and one with Erna.

The bad thing I only recognised as I was back at my hotel. I had glitter in my face and I don´t know from which of these girls but happily I went direct back to my hotel and later to Indonesia Plaza. Otherwise I would have walked around Indonesia Plaza with my face full of glitter.

Now I have a second good spot to go when I am in Jakarta.
Thanks for the information’s about Hotel Classic otherwise I would have never found this place.

Another short report:
Last night I have been to TG and My Bar.
TG was a flop this time. Only 2-3 nice looking girls. But they were crazy with prices around 500 k for 3 hours. Then I went to My Bar. I met a lot of guys again who have I seen before at TG. So I guess I was not the only guy who have had the same opinion.
I took a nice young indon girl home. 500 k for LT and service was great. She stayed until 1 pm the next day. BBJ, french kissing, …. It was a good GF feeling the whole time. I have her number and maybe I will meet her again tonight. Also she asked the next day for extra money what I don´t like at all. But I only took her with me to Indonesian Plaza where I went for lunch and I paid her the way home by taxi.

[QUOTE=FieldMouse]Hi,

I am returning to Jakarta for a short spell next month. Are there any girls now in marabaya that do anal? If not, where would I find one in the blok m area, also, are the Pantai Pijat places still in operation in grogol, on Dr Murwardi?

Thanks

Fieldmouse[/QUOTE]

There are two girls who do Anal, whom I know of. One is Yeni, she is a lanky girl aho has been there for years. The other one is Rini, a cute chubby girl. Both also give fabulous blow jobs.

Have fun.

Cheeers

[QUOTE=Westcoast1]...After I dumped skinny girl for chubby-red-hot, and got burned, few days later I'm getting out of the taxi in the street as I reach the Blok about 11. Skinny grabs my hand in the street, says nothing....

...I'm looking thru the pics just now. The next morning before departure she's wearing the red dress, and a pair of blue jeans underneath. Where the hell did those bluejeans come from?[/QUOTE]
By any chance, might you be missing a pair of your own jeans? LOL

I know its been covered by many reports, but thought to update a bit.

The last two nights I've been to CJ, I quite enjoy the atmosphere there. Few details FYI:

Entrance: Slight cover charge as u need to order a drink at higher than normal prices (for example: Bintang = 100k. whereas once u are inside, it costs about 60k).

Music: live band is good. Nice variety of musics from R&B to POP. Dj covers breaks.

Prices: a bit more expensive than the likes of Top Gun and others but of course with higher service quality.

-Heineken and pintang around 70k-60k. coctails: between 90k-110k. and of course the higher end choices costing between 200k to 500k (i.e. cognac, martinis).

again, service is really good and timely.

Girls: LOTS and MANY cuties. in fact, its the best place i've seen when it comes to girls. Last night in particular was amazing (was ladies night). Found some stunners there with prices between 1m to 700k. Of course depending on your negotiation skills. Some girls are quite picky as well. they must like u unless u willing to spend like a mad cow :P. Found girls who were genuinely looking for fun as well and no happy ending. I was lucky to get both kinds. the stunner and the fun one. It is quite good when u go there and find nice girls who r willing to stay all night with you for the fun, not for ur money.

Anyway, i should note that most of girl will spend the night with you for about 400k-500k (average looking girls).

Any questions? I will still be around for couple of days so if u want more info let me know..

Btw, anyone knows a place where a find russian or Kazakhstany girls. I need a change heheh. I know alexis does, but its quite expensive for me. may be u know another places as i don't want to spend millions for the massage and the extra stuff. Just need a damn girl. willing to spend to upto 1.5 mill for LT hopefully!

Cheers,

X

[QUOTE=Xovation]The last two nights I've been to CJ's...

Girls: LOTS and MANY cuties. In fact, its the best place I've seen when it comes to girls. Last night in particular was amazing (was ladies night). Found some stunners there with prices between 1m to 700k. Of course depending on your negotiation skills.

Most girls will spend the night with you for about 400k-500k...

Btw, does anyone know a place where to find Russian or Kazakhstan girls. I need a change heheh. I know Alexis does, but it's quite expensive for me. Maybe you know of other places as I don't want to spend millions for the massage and the extra stuff. Just need a damn girl. Willing to spend to up to 1.5 mill for LT hopefully![/QUOTE]
Thanks for your report on CJs, with lots of good info on drink prices, etc.

And I'm glad to read that you noticed that, while many girls may start off by asking for 1 million (or even more), that all prices are negotiable, and most girls will settle for 400k - 500k. There's no need for any guy to overpay!

Regarding girls from Russia and Kazakhstan, you may want to check out Hotel Malioboro. Or consult with the respected senior member of ISG "Jkt After Dark 2" also known as "Jakarta After Dark" who runs a guide service for meeting girls - he can be found at the start of the Classifieds section, 4 or 5 posts down (his latest post was made in January 2009). Or, you may run across one at one of the discos, you never know.

Unfortunately, you won't get a girl from Russia or Kazakhstan cheaply - the old supply & demand argument. Good luck!

******************

You may also find Russian/Kazakhstan girls at the FM 1 Boutique Hotel in Taman Anggrek, right next to the highway, a tall building painted in bright colors. Other possible places may or may not include Beverley Hills Spa (near the Kota train station) or Sumo Shiatsu Spa in Kelapa Gading (northeast from downtown, a fairly long cab ride).

I'd like to know your suggestions about top 10 Best Bars:

[url]http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2010/01/jakarta-nightlife-2010-top-10-best-bars.html[/url]

In your opinion what is the best quality/price rating?

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]I'd like to know your suggestions about top 10 Best Bars:

[url]http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2010/01/jakarta-nightlife-2010-top-10-best-bars.html[/url]

In your opinion what is the best quality/price rating?[/QUOTE]

That's a good list if you live in Jakarta and are not much older than 30 years old.

For a 50 year old, one week visitor, that list is garbage.

Then again, it depends what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]That's a good list if you live in Jakarta and are not much older than 30 years old.
For a 50 year old, one week visitor, that list is garbage.
[/QUOTE]

Alexis and BATS worth trying for us old folks...can visit early in the evening, finish up before midnight (or overnight for LT)

:)

Any experience in Pen J.

[QUOTE=Overhead1]Any experience in Pen J.[/QUOTE]

Normally I would have reacted with RTFF, but I don't recall a recent (>2008) FR from there. (Or should I reRTFF the thread?) BTW it is Pang Jay or Pangeran Jayakarta, the name of the street. It's in the northern part of Jakarta. Backing the exit of Kota trainstation, turn left around the building. Proceed about 200 mtrs till the traffic lights. Sion's church is at the opposite corner. Turn right at the traffic lights, proceed about 500 mtrs, passing a.o. a Toyota dealer. A little further you will see a sign of Handayani Spa. Proceed about 15 mtrs, or better, 50 mtrs; enter the gate at your lefthand side. There they are!! Starting with MTR at the far end.
I think you should ask the driver beforehand if he knows what you're up to. Otherwise he can pull your leg in that long street. By heart I can recall 5 places in there that will serve our needs.
So Overhead1, please inform us if you venture there.

hi all,

last week i was in a mood for a "normal" massage w/o any hanky-panky and since i had some business to fulfil at sultan hotel, i decided to take a brake at life spa, located at the lower ground.

arrived there, asked for massage and got a therapist namend elly, 25 yrs.
room was nice, soft music and essential oil fragrance in the air. no shower or bathtub. had a relaxing massage, guess i also felt asleep. towards the endshe asked me if i wanted to have a massage also on my best part. i was not eager for it, but what the hell, i thought, at worst it might be good for the blood circulation ;-) . so i said yes and now comes the part that made me really laugh loudly, even if it's tragic, coz it means there are some - sorry for the crude expression - idiots out there that pay these sums. she asked two millions for a handjob!!!!!

since i can manage to speak bahasa quite well, i asked if she was just shooting high in the hope to find some brain amputated being ready to pay that amount for a hj or what ??? i was shocked by the answer when she told me that she got 2jt already 4 times and most of the guests are able to "negotiate down" to sums between 1-1,5 milions (!?!?!?!?!).

finally after an excellent massage, a good laugh, followed by angryness, i tipped the lady for the massage and left.

i presume that these "guests" are none of the isg members (hopefully)...

i felt i had to share this in order to remind everybody who rtff not to overpay, coz spoiling the market will surely not contribute to our favourite spare time occupation.

thanks for the attention.

cheers,

cf68

Thanks Mentang will be in Jakarta late next month to check out.

[QUOTE=Menteng]Normally I would have reacted with RTFF, but I don't recall a recent ( 2008) FR from there. (Or should I reRTFF the thread?) BTW it is Pang Jay or Pangeran Jayakarta, the name of the street. It's in the northern part of Jakarta. Backing the exit of Kota trainstation, turn left around the building. Proceed about 200 mtrs till the traffic lights. Sion's church is at the opposite corner. Turn right at the traffic lights, proceed about 500 mtrs, passing a. O. A Toyota dealer. A little further you will see a sign of Handayani Spa. Proceed about 15 mtrs, or better, 50 mtrs; enter the gate at your lefthand side. There they are! Starting with MTR at the far end.

I think you should ask the driver beforehand if he knows what you're up to. Otherwise he can pull your leg in that long street. By heart I can recall 5 places in there that will serve our needs.

So Overhead1, please inform us if you venture there.[/QUOTE]

[quote=crazyfish68]so i said yes and now comes the part that made me really laugh loudly, even if it's tragic, coz it means there are some - sorry for the crude expression - idiots out there that pay these sums. she asked two millions for a handjob!!!!!

i felt i had to share this in order to remind everybody who rtff not to overpay, coz spoiling the market will surely not contribute to our favourite spare time occupation.

cf68[/quote]got a similar request (only 1 million) from my hotel massage therapist in jkt last year. i was not in the mood for hj, but played along and offered 200 to see if she would bite. "no. you pay me 1 million." i said nothing, and she cleaned up and left. she was pretty, 30-ish. i'm guessing they just get the occasional idiot once in a while?

[QUOTE=Crazyfish68]
Finally after an excellent massage, a good laugh, followed by angryness, I tipped the lady for the massage and left.

[/QUOTE]

With idiots paying her that much, I don't think you should have tipped her. She does not need our alms!

Keeping on the hotel massage theme... I had a massage at the Hotel Maharadja a few years ago. This is far from a 5 star hotel, in fact it's one of the cheaper hotels. At the end of the massage, the girl asked me if I wanted a hand job. I told her sure, go ahead. When all was finished, I gave her 150k tip. I thought I was actually being fairly generous. She then threw a fit saying she wanted at least 500k. I flat out refused and told her if she wanted that kind of money, she needed to negotiate that up front because I would have said no. She would not shut up, so I pushed her out the door. On the way out she told me to never ask for her again to be the one to give me a massage. No problem, I won't.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]That's a good list if you live in Jakarta and are not much older than 30 years old.

For a 50 year old, one week visitor, that list is garbage.

Then again, it depends what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]For this 50 plus rocker, I go the DIA route and last trip had 3 in 3 days, started with Ms 30, then Ms 24, and finished with Ms 21. Ms 21, being a sweet student now comes with me on business trips.

I've been through the list on previous trips and some works, some dont. Kings Cross is an interesting pick up place but long way out.

[QUOTE=Stopping By]Cooze Hound,

On the issue of overpriced viagra, cheap medicine can be very dangerous in Indonesia. They have a big problem with illegal counterfeits and knock-offs. It's one thing for your girlfriend to have a fake Gucci handbag

Sooo, in light of this discussion, whatis the going rate for 4 x 100mg now. I used to buy mine fm the girls on the overpass at mal ambasador, 4 tab cost 200k, but I have not lived there for 2 years, and now I am coming back for a while, need to know where to buy and what is going rate for it. I am leaving this till the last minute, I am sitting in airport lounge now and boarding in 40 mins.

Thanks guys

Fieldy

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Thanks for your report on CJs, with lots of good info on drink prices, etc.

Regarding girls from Russia and Kazakhstan, you may want to check out Hotel Malioboro. Or consult with the respected senior member of ISG "Jkt After Dark 2" also known as "Jakarta After Dark" who runs a guide service for meeting girls - he can be found at the start of the Classifieds section, 4 or 5 posts down (his latest post was made in January 2009). Or, you may run across one at one of the discos, you never know.

Unfortunately, you won't get a girl from Russia or Kazakhstan cheaply - the old supply & demand argument. Good luck!

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You may also find Russian/Kazakhstan girls at the FM 1 Boutique Hotel in Taman Anggrek, right next to the highway, a tall building painted in bright colors. Other possible places may or may not include Beverley Hills Spa (near the Kota train station) or Sumo Shiatsu Spa in Kelapa Gading (northeast from downtown, a fairly long cab ride).[/QUOTE]As I really like white girls, maybe I can give some info's. Some of your informations maybe not up to date (no longer exist).

Nowadays Beverly Hills import girls are only from China, but the quantity and quality is very poor, not like years ago. FM-1, I think they not provide white girls anymore.

You are right, that the price for them are expensive, than local girls. You can find them at Malioboro (Gajah Mada Street), Sumo (Kepala Gading), Alexis (Ancol) and Classic Club (Samanhudi Street). The best selections of white girls is at Malioboro. But facilities, I prefer Alexis.

I dont know about Jakarta After Dark, is he still in this service/business??

[QUOTE=FieldMouse][QUOTE=Stopping By]Cooze Hound,

Sooo, in light of this discussion, whatis the going rate for 4 x 100mg now. I used to buy mine fm the girls on the overpass at mal ambasador, 4 tab cost 200k, but I have not lived there for 2 years, and now I am coming back for a while, need to know where to buy and what is going rate for it. I am leaving this till the last minute, I am sitting in airport lounge now and boarding in 40 mins.

Thanks guys,

Fieldy[/QUOTE]Last month I buy Rp. 70.000 per pil for import Viagra product. There also different packaging cost 135.000 each/Viagra pil (Indonesian licensed). I bought from a small apotik.

Hi, in your opinion is it better to find girls eighteen old or is it better twenty-six, seven old? Who are better lovers?
thanks

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]For this 50 plus rocker, I go the DIA route and last trip had 3 in 3 days, started with Ms 30, then Ms 24, and finished with Ms 21. Ms 21, being a sweet student now comes with me on business trips.[/QUOTE]

I'd be willing to bet I know all 3 of them. I used to work that site quite a bit. I'm off it now though, it's been the same chicks for the past year or so. Almost no new ones.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]I'd be willing to bet I know all 3 of them. I used to work that site quite a bit. I'm off it now though, it's been the same chicks for the past year or so. Almost no new ones.[/QUOTE]And there was three the trip before that. Theres quite a few out there for when I need.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, in your opinion is it better to find girls eighteen old or is it better twenty-six, seven old? Who are better lovers?
thanks[/QUOTE]

David33, see what you've done? You just reminded him to start asking silly questions again (without any FR since years now!) by mentioning his name next to Poturu's. ;)

[QUOTE=Hbengkok][QUOTE=FieldMouse]Last month I buy Rp. 70.000 per pil for import Viagra product. There also different packaging cost 135.000 each/Viagra pil (Indonesian licensed). I bought from a small apotik.[/QUOTE]Viagra is not at all a problem in Jakarta. Just call the 24x7 Delivery of Guardian or Century Medical ask them to deliver the tablets. I prefer to use 100mg and split them in half or sometimes 1/3. No ED here but love the rock hard hammering for 2-3 hrs for my special horny fucklets.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, in your opinion is it better to find girls eighteen old or is it better twenty-six, seven old? Who are better lovers?
thanks[/QUOTE]
There's only one way to find out - spend the night in a threesome with an 18 year old and a 26 year old, decide for yourself, then post a detailed report about it here on ISG :)

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]There's only one way to find out - spend the night in a threesome with an 18 year old and a 26 year old, decide for yourself, then post a detailed report about it here on ISG :)[/QUOTE]

MS you are a nice guy to answer him. Foxeshunter and Poturu have been asking silly questions for years now without posting an FR. Like I wrote before, I think they only travel in their imagination thus pulling our legs every time they post a question.

[QUOTE=Menteng]
Foxeshunter and Poturu have been asking silly questions for years now without posting an FR. Like I wrote before, I think they only travel in their imagination thus pulling our legs every time they post a question.[/QUOTE]

You are a silly man!
Calle de la Pizza 05-31-10 at 21:01

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]You are a silly man!
Calle de la Pizza 05-31-10 at 21:01[/QUOTE]

Photo's please. You might have quoted information from the thread. And please post in the Peru thread.

Anyone have a reliable link to the Luna Maya/Ariel Peterpan video that is the talk of the local media? It seems that every link I try the video has been removed. If you have a link please share, thanks

A visit to Alexis at 9 pm: plenty of girls on the 7th floor but nothing in the Indonesian contingent caught my eye. Maybe the cutest were busy. Mamasan Celine recommended Shakira #205. Nicely shaped bum, a bit like an African girl. Off to an executive room, where Shakira took control, a bit like in a Malaysian MP. Good skils: this girl is not a beginner - not much GFE either. After DATY she tells me not to kiss her on the mouth anymore! To my surprise BJ was covered. Then unfortunaltly after 50 minutes and in the middle of the act, the phone rings. I tell them the hour is not over and hang up. Shakira then asks me to extend. I tell her no need. She then tells me several times to finish fast. Not at all pleasant. So a mixed experience at Alexis.

Scroll down a bit. But hey if you are student. Don't store it on the HP? Silliness is occuring.

[url]http://www.indonesiamatters.com/9717/peterporn/[/url]

[QUOTE=MrBill1963]Anyone have a reliable link to the Luna Maya/Ariel Peterpan video that is the talk of the local media? It seems that every link I try the video has been removed. If you have a link please share, thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrBill1963]thanks mate[/QUOTE]Hi,

I am at Nikko Jakarta, will stay 1 nite. Any place near here that I can find some cute gal and bring back to hotel? What's the damage like? Also I'm not familiar at all about this location.

Please help out.

Guys,

What has happened since November? I went to the Blok on Fri and Sat night. Friday night was a shocker, good meal and beers at sporties, but the standard of the other bars was way below wot it used to be. D's place was just dead and the 'private' room was just not worth going into. My Bar was just hopeless. TG was ok, but the quality of lady friends was ordinary. Saturday night was not much better, with a limp offer for a show in the private room for 100k, my bar was no beter than friday night, but at least TG was on the go, good band, good range of ladies etc.

Is there a new area that is replacing the good old haunts of Paletahan?

Fieldy

Been a long time since I was last here and having a last night in JKT, didn't see anything about Club 30 in Le Meridien, how is this place now?

[QUOTE=Qqman]Hi,

I am at Nikko Jakarta, will stay 1 nite. Any place near here that I can find some cute gal and bring back to hotel? What's the damage like? Also I'm not familiar at all about this location.

Please help out.[/QUOTE]
You are directly across the street from Plaza Indonesia and Grand Indonesia, two malls where you might have luck picking up a girl. You might find a girl in the "EX" section of Plaza Indonesia, at the cinema, Starbucks, Hard Rock Cafe, or just walking around.

To the north walking distance is the McDonald's (in front of Sarinah Dept. Store), a Starbucks and another cinema - might find a girl around there.

To the south, about 10 minutes away by taxicab, is the Hotel Shangri-La with the "BATS" bar/night club, and the Hotel Le Meridien, with the "Tiga Puluh" night club (although recent reports say that Tiga Puluh has become pretty dead of late).

Who knows - you might find a cute girl in the lobby of the Hotel Nikko.

Too bored in Hyatt so took a cab to Tiga Puluh, confirmed dead!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]You are directly across the street from Plaza Indonesia and Grand Indonesia, two malls where you might have luck picking up a girl. You might find a girl in the "EX" section of Plaza Indonesia, at the cinema, Starbucks, Hard Rock Cafe, or just walking around.

To the north walking distance is the McDonald's (in front of Sarinah Dept. Store), a Starbucks and another cinema - might find a girl around there.

To the south, about 10 minutes away by taxicab, is the Hotel Shangri-La with the "BATS" bar/night club, and the Hotel Le Meridien, with the "Tiga Puluh" night club (although recent reports say that Tiga Puluh has become pretty dead of late).

Who knows - you might find a cute girl in the lobby of the Hotel Nikko.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Huntingme]Too bored in Hyatt so took a cab to Tiga Puluh, confirmed dead![/QUOTE]

I was there last Friday or Saturday night and it was rockin'.

Hi,

Just thought I'd pass along a tip for getting freebees. Post an ad in the jakarta craigslist under, casual encounters. For my last 2 trips I got one lady from each trip. The last trip I hooked up with a fuck machine named Dee. She makes you use condom for anal and vaginal, but you can freely fuck either hole. So I kept alternating. Blow job is uncovered. After fucking till we both fall asleep, she wakes up around 3am and we fuck for another hour. She really likes doggy style! And she is really loud! I hope someone finds her on Craigslist and posts their encounter. She didn't let me take pics, but maybe you will have some luck.

[QUOTE=Gaston Castano][QUOTE=Hbengkok]Viagra is not at all a problem in Jakarta. Just call the 24x7 Delivery of Guardian or Century Medical ask them to deliver the tablets. I prefer to use 100mg and split them in half or sometimes 1/3. No ED here but love the rock hard hammering for 2-3 hrs for my special horny fucklets.[/QUOTE]Gc,

I had the same experience. No problem with getting delivery, and the quality was much better than I got a couple yrs back in Hong Kong. No headaches or feeling flush in the face. The wood is good (like I'm 19 again) and makes it easier for a doubleheader. Even with LT session, I feel it working for "morning head" when I wakeup.

Jakarta is great for the brown girls. Mmm mmm good. No detailed report here, but thanks to all you mongers. I RTFF and all was good during my first visit in May.

Kris

I was in My Bar Thursday and meet a girl with the name I remember as Bias from surabaya. Today I experienced I have got Gonorrhea, even that I had safe intercourse. Only the oral sex was without condom, which might have caused my desease. I have just been to doctor and been treated. I'm out of town for the next month, so I cannot go to My Bar and catch her.

[QUOTE=Schubba]so I cannot go to My Bar and catch her.[/QUOTE]
Maybe no need to blame her, maybe she isn't aware of it.
Women can have the bacteria without symptoms.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Maybe no need to blame her, maybe she isn't aware of it.
Women can have the bacteria without symptoms.

Cheers![/QUOTE]

I know and I don't blame her, but the desease must be stopped. It is not a very nice experience.

Schubba

Was in My Bar on Saturday night and it was smokin' ... Girls actually outnumbered the guys, never seen that before in my limited time there.

Did make a mistake and settled for one way too early, turned out she was just after money. No GFE to report.

Funny though I was with her when I was here in May and she seemed to be ok.

Now I can barely touch her ... go figure.

Anyway will go hunting for another prospect again.

[QUOTE=Bkk212]Girls actually outnumbered the guys, never seen that before in my limited time there.
[/QUOTE]

What the heck? Admittedly, although I live in Jakarta, I haven't been in My Bar in years. But the last time I was in there, the girls outnumbered the guys at least 3 to 1. The guys normally outnumber the girls now?

[QUOTE=Smoothy]What the heck? Admittedly, although I live in Jakarta, I haven't been in My Bar in years. But the last time I was in there, the girls outnumbered the guys at least 3 to 1. The guys normally outnumber the girls now?[/QUOTE]I was in town a few months ago. At times it was dead in My Bar, only a few bule or a few ladies, even at midnight on some nights. Sometimes it closes early (midnight, 12:30). Never seen the gents outnumber the chicas, unless I walked in at 10pm and was the only person there besides employees. But My Bar and D's Place can both be dead, while Top Gun is hopping.

I was there several nights when it was hopping by midnight, always the ladies outnumbered men 3:1 or more. Never an issue when its hopping.

I was in Jakarta entertaining a group of 6 guys in the middle of June 2010 and would like to share with you guys here on the latest and current pricing of places ventured thus far.

I have been in and out of Jakarta a lot since the beginning of this year for work so I have been roped in as a 'tour guide' there for my pals now.

I usually stay in Sun City hotel located at Hayam Wuruk, West Jakarta. Price there is about IR549k a night plus all the taxes. Room is very nice and the only thing missing there is a tea and coffee facility. Sun City is a entertainment hotel so you can pretty much do everything here. It has one of the nicest and most modern equipped spa equipments here as well.

The Spa is very well decorated and the massage girls are properly attired in blue shorts and pink t-shirts so it has a very 'professional' no hanky-panky outlook. In the room it is up to your nego skills as standard rate applies. Beware that the girls are very pushy for tips at the end of the massage session tho and I tot that was not very professional. I only took the standard massage without any extras and the girl kept insisting that I tip at least IR100k to her! I left without giving anything because I was particularly miffed at her attitude.

Coffee house is not so great but it will suffice as free breakfast is included with your room. The Karaoke is beautifully done with most rooms having 2 floors (upstairs balcony). The upstairs boasting a very nice bed for one to 'rest' when tired of singing. Not the cheapest of Karaoke's in Jakarta (in fact one of the more expensive ones) but the selection of ladies there are fantastic! Best quality Chinese gals (local and China ones) selection in the whole of Jakarta IMHO.

If you want to go out, CROWN Karaoke is just a 8 minute walk away or you can just take a cab there. Crown is not a cheap place to go as well and the drink packages there are outrageous. Girls selection there is also very plentiful but the place is not cheap. It's a huge and grand place with a lounge bar, techno disco and karaoke rooms galore in there but I just felt that the pricing there was a little on the higher side. Granted you get the topless girls dancing at the lounge when the band is not playing and that you can see the action on one of the TV screens in your karaoke room. But. It's Jakarta! You can get topless girls everywhere!

If it's dodgy spa's you like, you can try out the Orchardz Hotel at Jln Industri as well. Not great facilities but the place is where you want to go for a quick fuck. Price is also not expensive (about IR275k for standard) and they have interesting double action for about IR380k as well.

My best recommendation is Hotel Classic. Hotel rooms starts at only IR365k on promotion with breakfast and they have proper coffee house facility there. I am staying here from now on! Karaoke rooms are on the 3rd and 4th floor. The 3rd floor consist of mainly mainland China girls and nice good looking local girls BUT there is a catch here! No screwing them, Price is IR450k for local and IR500k for mainland China gals. Not so fun as they tend to be more 'reserved'. The 4th floor consist of local girls and are dressed more sexily and they have an aura of 'CFM'. Hahaha. Price is IR600k and it consists of 2 shots as well in the price. Rooms provided in separate area but I like the privacy factor as not in the same room as your pals but a few doors away Drink packages here also very reasonably priced as well.

The 2nd floor is the craziest floor! The bar area with live band, pool area, topless girls show and oodles of girls seating all around you to be chosen. Dressed in the skimpiest outfits for you to call and fuck them silly. Price is IR275k for 1 but special promo is IR400k for 2 gals (threesome)! Some of the girls here have the hottest body and the skimpiest outfits even my fantasy lose out! Hahaha. So that's my FR. Practice safe sex if you really have to do it for the benefit of your loved ones!

Was back in the big durian recently, and had occasion to sample many of her delights.

CJs: Definitely a target rich environment, plenty of girls here to choose from, and they are all available for fucking and sucking at the right price. They typically start the pricing at 1 juta, however if you are willing to negotiate, speak a little bahasa, then you can get LT for around 500k, or maybe 600k, depends how much you want to haggle vs. How horny you are. I've paid 700k there in recent times, but just because I couldn't be bothered to argue over $10 when I knew that time was better spent with her sucking on my cock.

Quality varies, sometimes you can spot the weathered cum drenched regulars vs. The fresh meat, sometimes I can't. One I took had great tits, but I hadn't paid attention to any other signals, and she turned out to be a wham-bam-thank-you-for-700k-I'm-leaving-after-a-single-shot kind of girl, but it really was my own damn fault. I saw her there again a week later, earlier in the night and I was much more sober, she was all over some bule who appeared to be a regular, she looked at me with a look of partial recognition but really had no idea who I was.

6th Floor/Marabaya bar: Finally broke my 6th floor cherry, ended up going there twice, price was 450k, but I only had 100k notes and there was no change offered First time there, had a great girl, sexy body and could suck a golf ball through a garden hose. She played with and sucked on my balls, and got some lube out and put her finger up my ass. Great feeling while she sucked away on my cock. Switched to a bit of covered doggie to finish off, and I'm an instant fan of the place, run down little dump that it is. Stayed for a while afterwards and enjoyed a few beers in the bar with a mate and got chatting to several of the girls. Good time was had by all.

Next time at the 6th floor was not as good. Got there early and a bit drunk, was drinking with mates again and chatting with girls. Eventually took one that didn't really catch my fancy, I just wanted a blow job and she happened to be close by, but she wasn't that great at it. Switched to covered doggie again, and I pushed when I should have pulled, missed the hole and bent my cock fairly hard, cried out in a bit of pain. She thought I had cum, so she got up and started to get dressed, game over. My dick was sore, so I didn't really protest too much, but I was not particularly happy.

Oh, almost forgot, had lined up a little cutie from DIA, she met me at my hotel when I first flew into town. I had already chatted her up on ym before leaving, so I picked her up in the lobby and we went straight to my room and got straight into the action. Great way to get rid of the jet lag after a long flight. She stayed all night and we had another session in the morning. I had every intention of seeing her again in my trip, but the numerous quantity and ease of availability of other girls saw me trying to new ones for the rest of the trip.