What Country has the Best Women for LTR?

Oh by the way I'm VERY unviersal. It's all pink inside to me!:)

I've noticed there's alot of talk about Brazil here and I just wanted to add my thoughts on the subject.

I'm 20 years old and I come from Sweden. Last year I travelled around South America. I started out in Venezuela but left after a few days since I found the women rather arrogant (in fact they weren't but I was still under the massive Internet propaganda about desperate Latin women). I then went to Peru, Lima and had the best experience ever in my life. The women were crazy about me it seemed like I could have how many girlfriends I wanted. If I would walk into a store the female attendants would all flirt with me and anyone I asked out on a date said yes (even if she was 10 years older than me). I was basically in paradise. Still I thought Brazil would be better, especially in attitudes towards sex. Well boys I made the mistake of my life going to Brazil. Rio de Janeiro was hell. Boring, dull and arrogant women. They would completely ignore and I didn't see more than a handfull of women over 15 years old in Copacobana where I had my appartment. Most of the girls were white and cared less about a gringo. As if matters couldn't be worse even the prostitutes ignored me. And after a few visits to "Help Disco" I realized I wasn't the only gringo they ignored. I found it incredible how the pros in Europe were far more anxious and service minded than in Brazil. Thinking that it was mainly Rio that was boring I decided to go North to Salvador, Bahia. The only thing which surprised me positively about Salvador was that there were real women around and they looked better than in Rio but still they didn't give me much more attention. At first I thought it might have something to do with me being young but I met older gringos as well (30 and 40 y.o) who faced the same dilemma. Incredibly enough however I found a girlfriend and fell in love with her so I stayed in Salvador for five months. During this time I learned more about how to play the game in Brazil. The number one rule is, the Brazilian women are arrogant and lazy; you will have to approach them and flirt with them if you want to get anywhere. They all think they're bloody supermodels because of how much and ruthlessly the local men flirt with them. The routine is basically to drag them in their clothes to get their attention.

After having enjoyed the highlane and the ease of getting ladies in Peru, I was shocked with the appaling situation in Brazil. I have no idea how people here can speak so warmly of the Brazilian women.

Lithium,

I spoke highly of Brazil because I had a great experience there. In fact being Asian has a major advantage in Brazil over being white because Asian men are a rarity there. I used prostitutes the first 2 nights but hooked up the third night because the Braizlian girl I hooked up with in NUTH club was curious about me. However, some Caucasian guys also had good experiences here as well. Everybody gets different experiences or opinions of a place. Perhaps people enjoy New York City but I HATE it and desperately want to leave. In NYC I am considered a short geek. NYC women prefer tall men (even the dwarves want a man above 5'7"). I am only 5'4" tall. In Brazil, I am a new flavor because there are not too many Asian men that live in Brazil only a few Japanese people that migrated there from America during WWII. They overlook my lack of height. Also what helps if you are not Asian or Brazilian is the fact you try to adopt their culture instead of ignore it. I take capoeira- a Brazilian dance martial art and I speak portugese. If they see that you love their culture, they'll love you.

Darkseid,

You're right about Asians. My girlfriend (who was exceptionally beautiful) use to date a Korean-Brazilian. The same guy was now involved with other model looking women and seemed really popular. Brazil also seems to be a good country for black guys. As for other caucasians, I find it hard to believe how anyone could have had such a great experience with normal women (prostitutes don't count as one could have fun for $ 100 anywhere in the world) unless they look like Brad Pitt or whatever. I met about 4-5 gringos in my trip as well and none of them seemed to be very popular among the ladies. Things just seemed so much better in Peru so I'm just wondering why the priorities look like they do. I do give the Brazilian women credit for being beautiful, and as a buttman I've never felt quite as at home.

That's true Rasta. I noticed how female store merchants would flirt more with black guys than they would with latinos. My girlfriend also told me that the girls prefer black men over white. Still that was all in the lower classes of society, I doubt the latin women in the higher classes are as open about dating black men since the country is so extremely segregated otherwise. And the thing is, the rich women don't have to date foregin guys to get out of the country. They could go abroad with their own funds and probably live a better life in material terms than they could in the West. So all in all Brazil is not really good for a white tourist. It migth be different if you actually live there permantly though. After I had been in Salvador for about 4 ½ months I had finetuned my game so that I could almost match the same numbers as I had my first week in Peru.

The women in the upper classes in Brazil tend to go for Portugese speaking whites or Asian guys since they are stereotyped to also be in the same class. Asian guys are known to bring technology into their country and are jknown to be businessmen. Caucasians who speak Portugese are also known to be upper class businessmen and are very respected. Caucasians that don't speak Portugese are known as middle class tourists who just go to Brazil for nothing more than pleasure at a lower cost country. That is why they don't go for English speaking Caucasians that much. The girl I met at NUTH was an upper class woman and I know she doesn't have the alterior motive of money or leaving the country.
The poor Brazilians are more open to dating blacks or latinos. They also go for Asians and whites as well as long as you can speak Portugese. Most of the lower class girls don't speak a word of English and try to communicate with you with sign language if you don't speak Portugese. Fortunately for myself, I can speak with the lower class. :-)

Jordan, I'll give you my opinions as a Blackman who lived in Japan for several years and encountered all types of women...


Indian/India girls: I was real curious because of the similarities and differences they have with a brother man, but trying to FIND them, find them MINUS India brother c*** blockers, and then “Break down” Indian sisters is annoying. From my long observations, Many India ladies in Japan go for the White brothers & definitely have color issues… But, I did get lucky, so when you see an opening for a SLAM DUNK then… “Just do it”. I think the main problem is there limited numbers in Japan and few seem to go anywhere, except the occasional college student. Note: Interestingly, I have known many Russian women that would hang out with Indian & Pakistani guys

Australian ladies: Bro… Just about every Australian woman I met in Japan has been down with Black American brothers. Even if not you, than the brother “next” to you… It is plain too weird, even for me. Many had great personalities, completely understood the bullshit of Black versus White American issues, and wanted to have FUN with da brothers. Australians are also more American, in a good way, than the Europeans that I met. Weird, but I’ll take the good when it is given to me. I’m thinking about doing some in depth studying about exactly why this is the case.


European women:

Many European women speak English, (but not all) and had a high level of fluency.

Many European women that me & my friends talked to made it a point to tell us that they prefer US to Japanese guys.

Many told us they were in Japan for the money. There good and bad stories were very similar to those of Black Americans. Japanese money & safety good, but Japanese prejudice (even against White skin), childishness, & weird perverts were bad.

Many European women were VERY turned on by guys with muscles, height, or macho. It was either 2 out of 3 and not necessarily all. Guys with muscles in fact were even a bigger hit with European women in Japan than with women in the U.S. Many European women that I met will touch you and be all over you… Very different from the reactions of Japanese women who seem very shy or afraid of guys with muscles or height.

European women don’t usually approach guys, so it up to the guy to approach her. Guys with BOLD & “smooth” approaches were awarded more often and CAVE MAN grabs are dangerous. Oddly cave man & very direct tactics worked MORE with Japanese women and this is probably because of language barriers and Japanese culture.

African men seem to do very well with European women in Japan. I think the Pimp & Agent stuff is because various European women from the poorer countries work in Japan as Hostesses and Dancers. Various African men in Japan have developed connections and are able to help them get VISAs or get jobs at certain Clubs. African guys also OWN some clubs in Japan, so the European women work DIRECTLY for them.

Note: Don’t underestimate those African brothers in Japan. Many speak 3 to 4 languages, try to OWN their own businesses, dress with style & flash GOLD (once they get money), & will use Black American popularity & trends to their advantage.

Europeans who don’t mind talking to da brothers in JAPAN (just my observation): Russians, Ukrainians, Estonia, Latvia, Polish, Hungary, Denmark, Yugoslavian, & Croatian women.

Other European women that I or my friends talked to were more on a “case by case basis” & did not show any trends. I did meet some Romanian women with race issues and gypsy issues. Gypsies are usually darker (some type of India, Muslim, White mix) on average than the people of the countries they are in and there has been a lot of persecution of them. So European countries with high Gypsy population, like Romania, may have severe race/color issues.

Filipina girls in Japan: RUN, RUN AWAY… In Japan, the ones I’ve seen will scam on you for money. “Buy me this, buy my friend this, my cousin needs money…” …and the sex… Many act like sexy super freaks, but when it is time to get down the catholic comes out (even though they ain’t livin that way) and it is straight missionary position and “owww, it hurts.. owww”. ####, is yall freaks or is you just scamming for cash? The “word” is that if they are “FRESH” from the “BOAT” and you are WHITE WHITE than it might be possible to find a “good one”. Good luck sailors… Weird, cause the ones I met in the U.S. were “case by case” decent. There are a FEW that KNOW they are “Black”… Huh? And are with da brothers… Good luck finding them, but I have seen them.

Thai girls: See Filipina… above… Seen a couple of super fine ones…

Chinese girls: See above… Money scam after money scam… True love only for WHITE WHITE… All into their own culture like CHINA is the CENTER OF THE D*MN UNIVERSE. China this… China that… China will rule… Give me your money… I have been around lots of Chinese since High School. Only exceptions were those who were bi-racial (usually White & Chinese) and somehow were interested in Black guys. Odd ain’t it... Maybe I’m just really unlucky with this group.

Mongolian: Don’t know…

African: Seen a lot of ones that had possibilities, but were totally unrefined. I seen some that were refined (hair done, nice nails, got the walk, got some money, got da clothes) and they will blow your mind. Met one that was a dancer and made any man’s jaw drop. This will be controversial, but… More feminine than American women… Way MORE African men than women in Japan, so can be hard to fine & then there is the “refinement” issue.

Brazilian: Among the prettiest women I HAVE EVER MET OR SEEN WERE Brazilian. VERY FUN loving, feminine but very no bullsh*t “straight forward”… All kinds of flavors, Black & White, White & Asian, or just everything… Can be a bit hard to find in Japan or to recognize because different color mixes… Some have severe issues about race (White versus Black), while others (Light or Dark) don’t give a #### about color & with da brothers… Hard to figure which is which… Don’t chase brothers, seem to be into Brazilian culture, and money focused in Japan. American Brothers will have to chase them down & LEARN their HANG OUT SPOTS. They WILL often Judge (my opinion) you by clothes, appearance (VERY QUICKLY), college, AND how MUCH YOU MAKE. Seem to Like MACHO acting guys that have their TOTAL act together.

Korean: Mixed bag as far as the brothers concerned, but some are very much worth the trouble. I was in Korea during the World Cup this summer… Taller, clearer skin, straighter teeth on average than their Japanese sisters. Don’t go insane Bleaching their hair yellow or go NUTS following White or Black countries and trends. Often conservative… Like in Japan there is a considerable group that is VERY INTO Black American culture, music, & Black men. Have many positive virtues or Asian female virtues such as TEAM WORK, femininity, loyalty, “quite” determination, etc… Can be harder to “crack” than Japanese or European women, but just as easy IF you know the culture… Can be more argumentative and jealous than Japanese, but more affectionate… Note: Oddly, I met some RUSSIANS in Korea that were very into Black guys too.

ZaiNichi Korean: Almost married one in Japan. More likely to understand Black Americans than average Japanese. Many positive virtues or Asian female virtues such as TEAM WORK, femininity, loyalty, “quite” determination, etc… Harder to FIND, can be harder to “crack”, can be harder to break up with than Japanese… In a relationship, seems more marriage orientated and displays greater loyalty to her “man” than Japanese sisters. Note: Don’t expect Koreans that grew up in Japan to be like those from Korea. There are some strong Korean cultural influences, but it can be hard to see them. Use Korean language ability and look out for lots of Korean products in the house to be your guide on this.

Ooopsss... Almost forgot South Americans:

Very much into their own Latin culture, "case by case" situation for da brothers, lots of White versus Black issues, money focused... Note, I personally think messing with Columbians in Japan is dangerous and I almost got “ganged up on” a few times... Was in some intense situations with Columbian guys… Flip side… I met some brothers with women from El Salvador (maybe something special for da Brothers) who were real happy and their ladies looked like “full body” Asian & Indian mixes, but were “full blooded” Spanish… One of the few times I got jealous over another brother’s girl… Brothers will most likely have to GO TO Salsa/Latino hang outs & Clubs. Some Spanish very, very helpful but not necessarily a must… Seem to like masculine, well dressed, “well styled” hair (fades, waves, etc…), “smooth” actin brothers… Seen a number of dudes that I thought were Black Americans, but turned out to be really Spanish… Knowing how to DANCE is a mega plus… I “lucked up” because I would go with Dominican & Puerto Rican pals… so maybe that is important too

Guys,
something about latinas (yes that includes also Brasil girls!) in general.

I traveled in peru,DR (and eastern Europe) and go now on a trip to Brasil (Fortaleza and manaus) for three weeks in February 2003.
I can only say that I also found out that many girls on the internet belong to upperclass family and are indeed snobs or arrogant:-(
So my advise would be: learn the lingo and go out there!!!!

In SA the language (spanish or Portugese) is indeed an issue. Even in Lima in a big hotel nobody spoke any decent english!!

The key to 'seduce" the girls is indeed learn their language. Now spanish wasn't so difficult for me. But Portugese is another ballgame:-( It looks like spanish but the proninciation is VERY different.

Also I can confirm that many professional latinas are looking for prof. men. They don't care if you make good money with a blue clour job....they also want (need?) Status!! And if they have to eat SHIT with a DESKJOB they will rather eat SHIT then to find a guy that is working in shifts in a factory!!!!;-)
And that is a very negative side of the latin personality imho.

So during my trips to come I will focus on lower class or lower middle class girls regarding my quest for a wife. Nurses,schoolteachers or factory girls.
They,most likely,are best to blend in in my home country the Netherlands. here nobody has a wife with 3 kids that stays all day home:-( It's just not possible.

Here we don't have money to hire maids and gardeners all day....;-) It would set back you a small fortune:-(

I personaly say for pussie action South-America kicks ass:-)
Here you can find all varieties in skin colours...from white....to dark black and everything in between:-) And that's were Brasil comes in!!! personaly I prefer the darker latinas or a mullatta:-)
But that doesn't mean I would kick off a 8-ish white girl of my bed-edge...LOL
Exceptions are Chili and Argentina as there are mostly white population.

Johan.

KNICKFAN,

[i]"Australian ladies: Bro… Just about every Australian woman I met in Japan has been down with Black American brothers....I’m thinking about doing some in depth studying about exactly why this is the case."[/i]

If you need some help with your "research"...call ME!! LOL I luuurve Black American men, and so does practically every other Australian woman I know. Guys...Knickfan is telling you the truth. If you ever visit Australia on one of your "mongering tours", I will pretty much guarantee you'll have hookers falling at your feet. You won't get any of that stuck-up, racist crap from an Aussie girl. Some of the best sex I've ever had was with Black American sailors. There's just something about the way you move...... *sigh*

Well...you heard the man! Get yourselves Down Under!! :)

Johan,

If you've allready been to Peru you might be up for a negative experience when you got to Brazil. Namely the Brazilian low class girls don't discriminate much in skin colour and many of them prefer black over white. The middle class Brazilian girls also seem very snobbish and arrogant. Unlike in Peru they will not look at you in the streets or flirt with you in the shops. You might just feel completely ignored.

In Peru I met women from both low, upper and middle class (in a period of one week!) and they all seemed very nice and interested in getting to know me.

Where in Eastern Europe did you go? I spent most of this summer going around Ukraine, but I also visited Romania and Moldova. My strategy use to be to go for the poorest and most desperate women, but I soon discovered it was more rewarding going for women who are more on your level. Women who have some knowledge of the world and speak English. Not only are these girls more sophisticated and able to carry a conversation with you, they're also less arrogant and actually more approachable than the lower classes.

Hi RN,

Are Aussie women friendly to the short Asian guy? I am planning to take a trip down there one of these days but I suppose they may be less shallow than American women who are mean to the likes of me.

Darkseid,

Ok, so maybe I'm just a tiny, little bit biased...but I think Aussie girls are friendly to EVERYONE! ;)

Seriously though, our closest "neighbours" are Asian countries, and as such, there is a very large Asian population in Australia. That can work both for you and against you though...

On the positive side, racism against Asian men is relatively uncommon, so you'll have just as much chance of picking up chicks as anyone else has. On the negative side though...it means you don't have an "edge". Take Negro men for example (be they from America, England or Africa). There is not a very large Negro population in Australia, so Afro-American men really stand out. (There's also the fact that we are continually "teased" by images of gorgeous Black men in American music videos and movies!!) There is something "exotic" and exciting about a Black man, because there are not many around...Asian men don't have that luxury unfortunately.

That said, Australia is the land of the "fair go". We like to give people the benefit of the doubt, and we believe in giving people a fair chance to prove themselves. Not only that, but we are a friendly bunch. :) We like to drink and talk and really get to know people. Both of those things mean that you will get more of a chance to show a girl who your really are inside when you meet her, rather than having her judge you on looks alone.

One warning...don't go to Australia with a "women don't like short men" attitude. Australian women are strong and proud, and they won't tolerate a man who has a chip on his shoulder. You need to be able to laugh at yourself in this country. Aussies are famous for the saying, "No Worries", and most of us live our lives by that slogan. Be prepared to smile, laugh, (DRINK!!), and talk to strangers...and I think you'll love the place.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by darkseid
[i]Hi RN,

Are Aussie women friendly to the short Asian guy? I am planning to take a trip down there one of these days but I suppose they may be less shallow than American women who are mean to the likes of me. [/i][/QUOTE]

short Asian guy? heh???
Have you seen that Asian guy........Singapore President
you think he is short........

Thanks RN. I can have fun in Australia as long as they don't zero in on my lack of height. In fact, I don't think about it as long as they don't bring it up like they do here in America. I guess that's why I travel a lot and have much better times abroad than in America. In America, they reject you if you have even one flaw and they even mention why they turn you down. This is why I always complain about my height is because American women always bring it up. I would otherwise have a good time if my flaws aren't brought to the spotlight.
I love Brazil for the same reason Blacks love Australia. In Brazil, Asian men have an edge over other guys because we are rare in Brazil. I had no problem getting free sex in Brazil. We are treated like gods or heroes because they consider us the bringer of technology and martial arts. Brazilian Jujitsu originated from the Japanese who fled America during WWII with the threat of being put into concentration camps.
I would like to go there some time. When is it the best time to go? Is there a Carnival type holiday I should check out like Holland's Queen's Day or Brazilian Carnival?

Darkseid;

Have you been to Buenos Aires? If you have, what was it like. I'm Asian American as well, so I'm interested in your opinion.

Thanks!