Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2599900]I fully agree with your conclusion. Thank God for foreign cuisine in both countries. The arepas in Colombia, are one of the worst foodstuff, otherwise known as "hockey puck".[/QUOTE]I felt the same way about Arepas for many years during my travels to Colombia but then I got into a serious relationship with a Bogotana for the last few years and she always makes me apepas from scratch, slicing the corn off the COB, butter etc. Not sure of the rest of the stuff she puts in there put I've grown to like it, almost as much as I like my hash browns with eggs.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2600032]I felt the same way about Arepas for many years during my travels to Colombia but then I got into a serious relationship with a Bogotana for the last few years and she always makes me apepas from scratch, slicing the corn off the COB, butter etc. Not sure of the rest of the stuff she puts in there put I've grown to like it, almost as much as I like my hash browns with eggs.[/QUOTE]That there are some home-made Colombian arepas that are really tasty. Every single one I've had in a restaurant is not worth the space it occupies on the plate. I believe but am not certain that the basic arepas have only two ingredients. Flour made from maize (corn) and water. That's about what they taste like to me. I bet once you start "doctoring" them up a little with additional ingredients, they could be good.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2599795]I don't like this, but I've been vaxed 3 x and can prove it, what are you anti vaxing mongers going to do?

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/01/opinion/covid-travel.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm a firm believer of individual freedom, Vax if you want, don't if you don't want, your decision. BUT. My daughter works in the medical field and she gets the numbers of the hospital everyday. She read them to me yesterday and the amount of hospitalizations of UN-vaxed is astronomical compared to vaxed. And deaths of vaxed is practically non existent. Do what you will.

I will tell you that I feel more comfortable during my visits to Colombia being Vaxed. The last thing I want is to get infected in Colombia and being treated In a Colombian hospital and not being able to fly home to a hospital in the USA.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2599906]Oh come on now, how young are you guys? Since when would unshaven slow anyone down LOL I remember when all where unshaven. And back then they damn well were more likely to have some body odor hiding in that muff pie, I wouldn't go down on a girl that was dancing the night away unless she went to the shower first. Even sweat would make that unpleasant when you stick your nose it it.[/QUOTE]I don't want to floss when I am down there! Clean it up! No hair or no for me.

LOL.

Does anyone know for sure what I need to do to drive this moto legally in Colombia? The moto has all it's "papers" in mi novia's name, but what if I want to use it? I would take the chance drive it right now if needed, but I've heard several stories about when if the policia stop you and you don't everything in order, they take the moto away from you right then and there on the spot. Obvio, I would like to avoid that situation.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2600036]The last thing I want is to get infected in Colombia and being treated In a Colombian hospital and not being able to fly home to a hospital in the USA.[/QUOTE]BTW, IMO it's an abuse of individual freedom when a single person's actions can harm others or does not achieve the greater good. Moving on.

Even though hospitals overall have an excellent reputation in Colombia, my friend who was diagnosed with Covid and required hospitalization here was so suspect of the care he was getting, that he boarded a commercial flight back home while still requiring supplemental oxygen.

I just PM'd this to a fellow monger a few minutes ago and thought maybe someone else could use it.

In Medellin, yes, you can negotiate for bareback fucking. Everything is negotiable, everything has a price. Recent STD test result are a great idea.

There's two basic strategies. You can make it clear up front that you want bareback, and be prepared to pay 50 to 100 mil COP extra. You may get a flat out refusal at those prices but they will all do it for a price. I guesstimate an 75-80 percent success rate at that price range.

Or you can wait until the moment of truth and just proceed like it's the normal thing to do, don't ask. I favor this approach but that is probably purely personal preference. She will probably but not always stop you. The advantage there, is that you are both already semi-committed and are motivated to close the deal. Show her your dick under full light, let her examine it if she wants, squeeze it so she sees nothing drips out the tip. Be clinical and matter of fact about it and she will appreciate it. Go for it! Good luck and happy mongering. I am sure there are other mongers here who are more experienced and insights, too.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2599903]"horny as hell" LOL well that would be a conundrum. Probably would have to opt out between the body odor and totally unshaven. Yeah I wouldn't get it up anyhow. I've run into more bad ass smell than stinky pussy smell. Either one is a boner killer for me.[/QUOTE]Normally, I too would of opted out, yet I was horny as hell as well and didn't let it deter me, and it turned out to be a good experience.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2599876]1. You've already eaten half the asses in Medellin. Maybe they would be better with butter..[/QUOTE]That's a low blow! LOL.

Maybe something sweet to accompany all those asses, unless of course it's honey butter!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2599876]1. You've already eaten half the asses in Medellin. Maybe they would be better with butter[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Surfer500;2600064]That's a low blow! LOL.

Maybe something sweet to accompany all those asses, unless of course it's honey butter![/QUOTE]I guess my reputation as an ass hole lover is going to stick. I really only see it as an equal opportunity orifice, but maybe I am in denial, jajaja.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2600038]I don't want to floss when I am down there! Clean it up! No hair or no for me.

LOL.[/QUOTE]No girls shaved their pussy before the 1980's. Period. That means that out of the history of time. So for thousands of years. Girls did not shave their pussy. The first time I saw a shaved pussy I thought it looked weird, but it didn't take long for me to realize how much more hygienic it is to shave that thing. Like I said all she had to do was break a sweat and it made going down on her a very brief experience.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2600043]Does anyone know for sure what I need to do to drive this moto legally in Colombia? The moto has all it's "papers" in mi novia's name, but what if I want to use it? I would take the chance drive it right now if needed, but I've heard several stories about when if the policia stop you and you don't everything in order, they take the moto away from you right then and there on the spot. Obvio, I would like to avoid that situation.[/QUOTE]WOW!

First you buy a motorcycle and put in your girls name. That means you bought it for her. You will never get it back or any proportional value of it, except maybe the helmet as a token of remembrance.

Now reality hits you and you realize you have no rights to even drive the thing legally? Now you ask for the information you should have started out with before buying. Please brag some more about what a good deal you got on a motorcycle you do not have any rights to. You should be talking to a lawyer and not asking fellow story tellers here for advice. You said you heard stories about police taking motorcycles. Be the big spender you claim to be and see a lawyer for 30 minutes and find out the truth.

I wish I was your neighbor so I could watch as she breaks up with you and drives away on your motorcycle. I will happily be eating my popcorn.

Now please go buy yourself a condo or house and put it in her name. Then you will learn how much she really loves you (your money only).

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2600043]Does anyone know for sure what I need to do to drive this moto legally in Colombia? The moto has all it's "papers" in mi novia's name, but what if I want to use it? I would take the chance drive it right now if needed, but I've heard several stories about when if the policia stop you and you don't everything in order, they take the moto away from you right then and there on the spot. Obvio, I would like to avoid that situation.[/QUOTE]I do not know what your situtation is. Are you going back and forth? Do you have a motorcycle license in the USA? I follow this guy on YouTube who is / was an expat in Medellin, so he had a residency visa, who explained how he got his Motorcycle license. But he had some residency visa status. Here is the video where he says at what I do not know is if you have to have residency first -.

At 5:25 he explains the process from his point of view. He also tells the story of how his bike got stolen out from under him at gun point but thats not the point of my point you toward this video, even if it is worth hearing about

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JFi5CF6A60&t=732s[/URL]

AI heard a rumor that you can go to this Academia Automovilismo on the northeast corner of Calle 9 and Carrera 43 A in Poblado and pay the right amount of money to the right person. And they pave the way to get your license. That was a couple of years ago that I heard this so it might be worth looking into but take it with a grain of salt.

[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2600011]Get a proxy. Problem solved. I have been working "remote" in different countries for 10+ years and have a full paid proxy subscription so all my traffic (phone included) route back through the US.[/QUOTE]Which proxy do you use, do you prefer one over another for a particular reason and why? Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2600011]Get a proxy. Problem solved. I have been working "remote" in different countries for 10+ years and have a full paid proxy subscription so all my traffic (phone included) route back through the US.[/QUOTE]This guy right here. I like this guy. He's a smart guy.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2600149]Which proxy do you use, do you prefer one over another for a particular reason and why? Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]I'm interested too.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2600060]Normally, I too would of opted out, yet I was horny as hell as well and didn't let it deter me, and it turned out to be a good experience.[/QUOTE]Next thing you know you will be eating ass, jajajajaja.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2600091]WOW!

First you buy a motorcycle and put in your girls name. That means you bought it for her. You will never get it back or any proportional value of it, except maybe the helmet as a token of remembrance.

Now reality hits you and you realize you have no rights to even drive the thing legally? Now you ask for the information you should have started out with before buying. Please brag some more about what a good deal you got on a motorcycle you do not have any rights to. You should be talking to a lawyer and not asking fellow story tellers here for advice. You said you heard stories about police taking motorcycles. Be the big spender you claim to be and see a lawyer for 30 minutes and find out the truth.

I wish I was your neighbor so I could watch as she breaks up with you and drives away on your motorcycle. I will happily be eating my popcorn.

Now please go buy yourself a condo or house and put it in her name. Then you will learn how much she really loves you (your money only).[/QUOTE]Wow is right. Not wow that he bought a scooter for a girl, wow at your response.

My personal opinion is that at some point in the future the girl will ride out of his life and live with her girlfriend in the house he's paying to build. Big deal. It's his money and he hasn't asked me to babysit. Just like none of us asked him before all the questionable choices we've all made.

He didn't ask us if he should buy the scooter. He asked about what he needs to ride it legally.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2600043]Does anyone know for sure what I need to do to drive this moto legally in Colombia? The moto has all it's "papers" in mi novia's name, but what if I want to use it? I would take the chance drive it right now if needed, but I've heard several stories about when if the policia stop you and you don't everything in order, they take the moto away from you right then and there on the spot. Obvio, I would like to avoid that situation.[/QUOTE]This subject just came up in June when I was talking with a friend. He might have the largest motorcycle and scooter rental business in Colombia and I believe he's been in business for 8 or 9 years.

He said he never bothers to check if his renters have a motorcycle endorsement, as long as they have a valid license, because he's never had any problems with that. The Colombian police have no idea which states require a motorcycle endorsement. As long as you have a valid license from the US you can legally drive a car or ride a moto.

You can't get a Colombian driver's license until you have a Colombian cedula de extranjero. You can't get a cedula until you have a visa valid for at least 6 months. Tourist visa is not applicable.

The only thing you might need is something authorizing you to ride her scooter.

Anyone sending money to girls, buying gifts for girls, or whatever you feel like doing, go right ahead. It's your money. Unless someone on ISG is paying all your expenses, how you spend your money is none of their business. My only advice is to remember, the money you spend doesn't buy you anything. The only guarantee is that you'll be asked for money again.

[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2600011]Get a proxy. Problem solved. I have been working "remote" in different countries for 10+ years and have a full paid proxy subscription so all my traffic (phone included) route back through the US.[/QUOTE]The work laptop is connected to the company's network via company VPN. Are you saying there's a way to use a third party VPN to fool the company VPN? I work for one of the biggest tech companies and I assume they have controls in place to prevent that.

[QUOTE=Regnom3000;2599865]If you've got questions or want some leads on girls feel free to PM me.

3 K.[/QUOTE]And said you were "new" to the game. Honestly, I try NOT to focus on usernames and instead concentrate on content so I don't bias myself for or against other users here. BUT, JFC, I've been called a "Quick Study" before but you're fuckin' unreal. If you really were as green as you said, you have an amazing ability to process, analyze, organize, and the highest function, synthesize new information. Golf clap. Tip of the cap. Suck my dick. I hate you. Jaja. JK. Obvio. Keep up the strong work. You are a credit to this Board. Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2600193]He didn't ask us if he should buy the scooter. He asked about what he needs to ride it legally.

The only thing you might need is something authorizing you to ride her scooter.[/QUOTE]I answered his question. Go see a lawyer for less than 30 minutes.

You mention he might need something authorizing him to ride her scooter. Which means you do not know either. So my answer is still the most correct (lawyer). Thank you.

Getting any kind of legal advice off any chat board is not a good idea. Generic info to get you started sure but for the nitty gritty specifics you need to see a professional.

Your first question should be whether the company allows you to install a VPN client of your choice on the machine. If it doesn't (and few companies do) your options would be (1) connect a non work PC to your Colombia Internet service. You could then set up a VPN client on the non work PC and connect your work PC to the Colombia Internet service via the non work PC that you set up as a mobile hotspot, (2) use a mobile phone with a VPN client installed as a mobile hot spot to which you connect your work PC. Of course you can also find another job or ask to work remotely.

If you manage to get any of the above done your remaining challenge would be to avoid fucking and partying so much you would be incapable of meeting your work commitments. Let us know how you make out.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2600194]The work laptop is connected to the company's network via company VPN. Are you saying there's a way to use a third party VPN to fool the company VPN? I work for one of the biggest tech companies and I assume they have controls in place to prevent that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2600193]Wow is right. Not wow that he bought a scooter for a girl, wow at your response.

My personal opinion is that at some point in the future the girl will ride out of his life and live with her girlfriend in the house he's paying to build. Big deal. It's his money and he hasn't asked me to babysit. Just like none of us asked him before all the questionable choices we've all made.

He didn't ask us if he should buy the scooter. He asked about what he needs to ride it legally.

This subject just came up in June when I was talking with a friend. He might have the largest motorcycle and scooter rental business in Colombia and I believe he's been in business for 8 or 9 years.

He said he never bothers to check if his renters have a motorcycle endorsement, as long as they have a valid license, because he's never had any problems with that. The Colombian police have no idea which states require a motorcycle endorsement. As long as you have a valid license from the US you can legally drive a car or ride a moto.

You can't get a Colombian driver's license until you have a Colombian cedula de extranjero. You can't get a cedula until you have a visa valid for at least 6 months. Tourist visa is not applicable.

The only thing you might need is something authorizing you to ride her scooter..[/QUOTE]And amazing content in and of itself.

And to that other guy. I am trying to keep up here, so be patient with me, please. Are you saying that a girl might exist in Medellin who would date a guy older than her father, just because he spends money on her? Is that what you're saying? Hmmm, I got to think about that one for awhile and get back to you. My eyes have been opened! I was sure this was the real thing. Gee, I probably shouldn't have taken out that second mortgage and sold a kidney just to come here. Hmmmmm. Oh well, live and learn.

There are two kinds of street food here. You can get soups / stews / sancocho and the second kind of fast food is fried. All of it. The bandeja paisa is an egg, some beans, a slice or two of avocado, a lot of rice, a long piece of salted and fried pork rind (chicharron) and a piece of very well done beef or pork. Most other meals start with soup and are followed with a plate of various combinations of the bandeja paisa. It gets old fast. The good news is there are many other choices outside of the barrios.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2599937]I was chatting with two Colombian teachers and they asked how I liked Colombian food and I could only say it is OK. I explained it was very bland with no use of a certain spice that sticks out into my mind. They were not happy with my assessment.

Just because empanadas are sold on every single block in Colombia does not mean it is good and definitely the would "cuisine" should not be attached to it. Hotdogs are also sold all over the place in this country it is definitely also not cuisine. It is only "food" or low level "sustenance". Seems as if all the Colombian restaurants serve beans, rice, fried plantain, and salad with some sort of meat. That is hardly special or unique tasting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2600051]BTW, IMO it's an abuse of individual freedom when a single person's actions can harm others or does not achieve the greater good. Moving on.

Even though hospitals overall have an excellent reputation in Colombia, my friend who was diagnosed with Covid and required hospitalization here was so suspect of the care he was getting, that he boarded a commercial flight back home while still requiring supplemental oxygen.[/QUOTE]The actions most generally discussed on this website can harm others and don't achieve the greater good.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2599906]Oh come on now, how young are you guys? Since when would unshaven slow anyone down LOL I remember when all where unshaven. And back then they damn well were more likely to have some body odor hiding in that muff pie, I wouldn't go down on a girl that was dancing the night away unless she went to the shower first. Even sweat would make that unpleasant when you stick your nose it it.[/QUOTE]About 3 years ago on the flight into MDE I talked with the guy next to me on the plane. He was going down to check on an "agricultural investment" and I told him my reason for traveling. He was surprised and happy to learn this was available in Medellin as he was recently divorced after a long marriage. I took him out to La Isla where he became wild with excitement and ended up doing a couple different chicas that night after I left. When we got back together the next day the first words out of his mouth were "WOW when did the girls start shaving their pussies like that?" I laughed so hard. We take it for granted but a guy who's been out of the game for so long doesn't even know LOL. He loved it though.

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[QUOTE=Combo;2600236]The actions most generally discussed on this website can harm others and don't achieve the greater good.[/QUOTE]For which I did not intend. I was referring to vaccines, specifically, Covid. But as a general statement applied to this board, I would not argue your point. I personally do not try to harm others and maybe I am deluded, but sometimes I feel as though I am might be helping some people. But like I said, I really can't argue your point. Thanks for the feedback! And I mean it. I added that because my previous post to this was the most heavily sarcastically laced post I have ever made here. And damn did it feel good. Needed to stretch those wings. Thanks again.

Catgirl is here! In my hotel room. This is a rare occurrence, so far. Mi numero uno novia. You know the one for whom I just bought the moto. The queen on my ranked list of ten plus girls who all know about each other and their numbers. Oh BTW, the moto is too big for Catgirl, she's not going to be able to use it. And the helmets don't fit under the seat, Dang! Anyone want to buy a 2022 fully loaded Vulcan moto for cheap? I'll throw in the helmets for free. I am not joking. JJajjjajajaa. Keep On Keepin' On!

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2600245]About 3 years ago on the flight into MDE I talked with the guy next to me on the plane. He was going down to check on an "agricultural investment" and I told him my reason for traveling. He was surprised and happy to learn this was available in Medellin as he was recently divorced after a long marriage. I took him out to La Isla where he became wild with excitement and ended up doing a couple different chicas that night after I left. When we got back together the next day the first words out of his mouth were "WOW when did the girls start shaving their pussies like that?" I laughed so hard. We take it for granted but a guy who's been out of the game for so long doesn't even know LOL. He loved it though.[/QUOTE]Jajajajaja.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2598618]I slept. After 60 hours of wide awake on the pink shit. The girls are a blur. I feel good {Channels James Brown, hoowah!

This just in, Scarlet is in the hospital with a "suicide attempt. " I am certain it was more of a attention seeking gesture, but of course that works, and this requires some increased attention, at least temporarily. She has novia status. I was getting ready to tell her that she is getting bumped out of the Top Three which would make her an amiga or chica, so I guess it's a good thing I did not tell her that before. For the exact reasons she is exhibiting in her behavior now. Too emotionally unstable. She has been telling me lately that I am not a good novia and Numero Dos was not good enough for her. She needs to get bumped back down in the lineup to a position where she can get paid for every encounter, and not provide "free" sex like I expect from my Top Three or novias.[/QUOTE]Osteoknot,

What are the chances, unfortunately one of the girls I see went to the hospital on that same night due to a suicide attempt. What are the chances we're seeing the same girl? My bet it potentially pretty high.[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] I do feel for my girl and I'm giving her a lot of attention since recovery. IDK, is this something common that girls from Medellin are known for?

Sophie came two nights in a row and hours late the second night. She arrived after midnight and did a puta exit at the crack of dawn. The build up to her second arrival was a three-hour barrage of text messages about how she lost her purse, cedula and money that I gave her the night before. I was never clear on the details, it had something to do with her voting somewhere, WTF. I was a little surprised but not amazed that this tragedy had befallen her the first night after we had gotten together in over a year.

I don't know if she was lying, she's got a simple mind and I am not sure she can concoct like this, but it's in these chicas DNA in this country to look for every angle, and they are capable of Oscar winning performances. And you will not believe the details they will construct and stage to make it look real.

What I really meant was, I don't care is she was lying. I take that out of the equation. I have taken the approach that I do not try to decide if these stories are true are not, and to simply stick to my guns, show some sympathy, and not try to save the day. Ever. Don't accuse them of lying. Don't go there. That accomplishes nothing and once you "offend" them or show a girl "disrespect,' the evening will not be the same. As much as they want your money, they also want to feel as though you care at some level and respect them. I know that sounds stupid because they are trying to rip you off at the same time. I played along, and showed a little sympathy. My experience is they get over it quickly. She wouldn't drop it until I suggested that perhaps she was too upset to get together that night. She was knocking on my door less than thirty minutes later.

She got her 200 mil COP for the second night in a row as promised, no tip, no taxi. Oh yeah, I did Rappi her. I have this thing about feeding girls, and I never refuse that. If you don't know the girl, it's okay to ask her to show you the final total from her Rappi order before she hits the commit button. I had a recent Rappi bill of less than 8 mil COP for a cool chica who used some kind of coupon or credits on her own to partially pay the bill. From not checking before the order was place, I've had a Rappi bill go well over a hundred mil COP by a more mercenary style puta. They will not hesitate to order enough food for the family back at the house, if you don't stop them. There's no point in getting upset after the fact. I try to learn my lessons, move on and keep things pleasant.

Sophie is very unique and more than a little whack-a-doodle. She is the only girl I ever talked (wrote) into leaving a web cam studio here in Medellin, and going directly to my hotel. The first time I visited her room. That was a couple of years ago and I believe that was the first Whassap transcript I ever posted here. She was on xHamster which is one of those sites where the girls are generally NOT trying to hook up for what they call in that business an "encounter. " Most of those girls, obviously not all, are in that business to AVOID touching guys while making money showing their wet holes.

Web cam models are a rare route for me to find a girl but I've done it more than a few times. I got Sophie in one night. That hot Cali chica I posted about my last trip, took me over a year to set up after finding her on Stripchat, but my reward was the address to her apartment and a place to stay. Risky stuff but I love it. I'll look for a foto of the Cali chica, she's just as dark but way more flaca (skinny) as Sophie. We just reconnected the other day and I am debating flying her over here to visit. If I can find that torso shot of her, I think you will understand. That's the best part of tagging a Web cam girl. You get to screen their physical parts before you meet them usually in pretty good detail. And you get to see how they act, even though it's not their natural persona. Don't forget, a lot these girls are very keen at lighting and camera angles and what you get knocking at your door might shock you compared to what your brain filtered through on the Webcam.

Sophie is 25 years old. For the first 20 years of her life she was living on dirt floors, barefoot, in a jungle village of 200 people, on the lower Pacific coast of Colombia, near the beach. They call themselves "Pacificas" and they are negro and exotic. They are taught sensual cultural dances from the time they are small children which are amazing to see. She is the only girl I ever paid to come over and simply dance in front of me for two hours. I did more than watch, jeje.

She's like an animal and communicates more with grunts and sounds than words, and that had nothing to do with my lousy Spanish. The first night, she came and went through all my stuff and literally touched every object large and small at least once. Marking her territory. Once she felt safe and comfortable she would lie in bed with her legs spread as far apart and she could rest them, or in cuatro with her butt up in the air, because this was relaxing to her. She's bigger than me, height and weight. She "made" me give her a massage both nights and provided her own cream. She doesn't like her face touched at all, with anything. She is not affectionate.

She is one of those Colombianas who have been discussed here before who will take over and take charge during sex. The first time a gringo runs into one of these girls here, they usually are shocked. These girls know what they want sexually, and they expect to get it.

I was coming off 60 hour bender our first night, and had slept about six hours before she arrived. I was doing too much pink shit and far from recovered. Mr. Johnson was not going to stand up and be counted, I knew that well before she arrived. I don't get performance anxiety, especially over stupid shit and since the cause is reversible. I've got the oral skills for back up.

She went from 0-100 mph in about 30 seconds when I went down her. She was fucking my face so hard that her pubic bone was painfully pounding the underside of my nose. If I tried to catch a break or breath for even a second, she grabbed two fistfuls of my hair and rammed my face back into her pussy. She came quickly, in less than five minutes. Then she started demanding that I fuck her. When I told her that wasn't in the cards tonight, she genuinely started to get pissed. I am generally a go-with-the-flow guy in the bedroom who does use a lot of canned moves or rehearsed lines, but believe me, when I started to see that fire in her eyes, I pulled out my best Rico Suave act to deflect and defuse her mood and shorty thereafter we were focused on Netflix.

The most important thing to her was getting a cheap bottle of Rappi Rose wine delivered. You would have thought we were at the Waldorf Astoria on the lower right corner of Central Park in Manhattan, the way she was beaming while we toasted over and over again with paper coffee cups. She would not chug the wine out of the bottle as my classy ass suggested, and she made get dressed and go down to reception for the coffee cups. Drinking and toasting the wine was the warm and fuzzy encounter of the evening and maybe my favorite part.

We showered together the second night and that was fun. She loved getting her back scrubbed. I could tell she is mostly alone in the world. We would be a terrible couple in the real life, but I love seeing her like this, once in a great while. I don't believe I would enjoy going out with her at all. Her behavior is just a little to abstract, and coming from me, that is saying a lot.

Speaking of abstract behavior, after the shower she spent half an hour doing these strange, ritualistic moves in bed while I stood and watched. She would lay, crouch or sit, then do a three-second twist and stretch usually with one arm extended, freeze, and let out a little burp. Over and over. Very strange. Not sexy but definitely watchable. She didn't stop until I started feeling bored and I put my hand on her back. I asked her if that was something she learned in her village and she just shrugged her shoulders.

The sex was typical for Sophie, no emotion, no extra's, her entire goal is to get off and then she will present her pussy or ass until you finish. She used the smallest amount of pink shit of any girl this trip, basically what I would call one-half of one hit. But she wanted that.

She tried to come back for a third night in a row but I got enough Sophie to last me a while. When she texted, "Can I come over?" a cute little Paisa girl was here who grabbed my phone (careful) and texted for me with, "No, when I need you, I will call you. " Great fuckin answer in it's simplicity and honesty. I will use that again. To my amazement, Sophie dropped it right away. I guess it takes a chica to think like a chica. Sophie has texted me a couple times since then with nastygrams about what a creep I am and she hopes I enjoy my other girls. I thanked and told her I would call her when I need her, jeje. Another year would be fine. I am sure I will hear from her next time rent is due.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2600193]
Anyone sending money to girls, buying gifts for girls, or whatever you feel like doing, go right ahead. It's your money. Unless someone on ISG is paying all your expenses, how you spend your money is none of their business. [/QUOTE]We cannot assume we know the financial situation of those that confess to spending or giving. Some of us have a wide breadth of assets, some of us do not. If a person were having trouble paying bills and mortgage at home but spent needed money buying any girl a scooter ($1800?) that would seem irresponsible and weak. But if he can afford it and will never miss it then it doesn't matter. How many of us fly a few chicas to CTG for a weekend and blow an extra thousand we wouldn't have otherwise? The only thing I would say about buying a girl a scooter is that most of them are not emotionally intelligent enough to learn how to ride, respect the responsibility, and stay safe. So many of these 20+ Colombian girls have the emotional maturity of a 12 year old and will say anything to get what they want. It seems unlikely an amateur with no experience that can barely get dressed (organize) for a date will own a scooter and drive it without hurting herself.

[QUOTE]My only advice is to remember, the money you spend doesn't buy you anything. The only guarantee is that you'll be asked for money again.[/QUOTE]That is 100% true. If you are going to buy the scooter or anything expensive for these girls do not expect anything afterwards. If you are looking for value get it up front because after the money is spent they will only ask for more. It doesn't matter if you buy them a house and a car, after the deal is done it's "what have you done for me lately".

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2600416]We cannot assume we know the financial situation of those that confess to spending or giving. Some of us have a wide breadth of assets, some of us do not. If a person were having trouble paying bills and mortgage at home but spent needed money buying any girl a scooter ($1800?) that would seem irresponsible and weak. But if he can afford it and will never miss it then it doesn't matter. How many of us fly a few chicas to CTG for a weekend and blow an extra thousand we wouldn't have otherwise? The only thing I would say about buying a girl a scooter is that most of them are not emotionally intelligent enough to learn how to ride, respect the responsibility, and stay safe. So many of these 20+ Colombian girls have the emotional maturity of a 12 year old and will say anything to get what they want. It seems unlikely an amateur with no experience that can barely get dressed (organize) for a date will own a scooter and drive it without hurting herself.

That is 100% true. If you are going to buy the scooter or anything expensive for these girls do not expect anything afterwards. If you are looking for value get it up front because after the money is spent they will only ask for more. It doesn't matter if you buy them a house and a car, after the deal is done it's "what have you done for me lately".[/QUOTE]Whether anyone can afford to spend the money they are spending, falls in the category of "not my problem. " The chicas certainly don't care whether any of us bankrupt ourselves giving them money or gifts.

Why should they? Nobody else cares. Casinos don't ask the gamblers if they're sure they can afford to gamble. Banks only care to the point where they can be certain of a profit. Then there's all the payday loan and check cashing places, charging outrageous rates and specifically targeting the people who can't afford their services.

Certainly if someone is finding themselves maxing out credit cards, dipping into their 401 k or otherwise exceeding their resources, they should reevaluate what they're doing. I've been on both sides of that situation in the past, where a friend tried to tell me I was throwing money away on the wrong girl, and telling a friend the same thing. In neither case was the advice well received.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2600253]I am just saying maybe there should be just a tad more discretion in your posts as we don't want any unnecessary authorities to pay too much attention to this site. I am being overly cautious, but I think a modest line should be drawn on our activities as to keep the board safe,[/QUOTE]Maybe you are not aware that this is a public, worldwide (not just Medellin) website and it has been in the news in several countries before in the last like 20 years. Nothing new to see or protect here sir.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2600431]I've been on both sides of that situation in the past, where a friend tried to tell me I was throwing money away on the wrong girl, and telling a friend the same thing. In neither case was the advice well received.[/QUOTE]I am sure it was not. Everyone has to learn on their own. Maybe give a nudge and say are you sure you know what you are doing, but that is about it.

My buddy, who has since passed on, was living in the Philippines and had a girl he was seeing. The chick died and he took it upon himself to financially support her daughters. I said dude what the fuck are you doing. You are 70 years old and your kids are grown. That is not your responsibility. He gave me holy hell and told me he knew what he was doing. Come to find out the chick did not die. He was just being played. He told me that he should have listened and would not find himself in that position again.

Some people's hearts are just too big for their own good. On the ThaiVisa website I mentioned a chick I was messing with had to go home and pay $3,000 for some surgery her dad was having. You would be surprised how many guys were trying to guilt me saying that I should have paid it. Why the fuck would I hand over $3000 to a chick just because we have been fucking for a couple of weeks? I didn't even know her dad and she did not even ask me for ANY money towards this. Yet tons of dudes sincerely thought that should have been on me.

Most guys take it upon themselves to be the savior, never having been asked to. I know tons of chicks that have said the guy just gave her an iPhone; she never asked for it. And from reading these threads about guys giving away phones and shit, I am sure they are not lying. I'm sure this chick didn't ask for a scooter. That sounds preposterous. It's more like since she made me cum a couple of times, I am going to impress her by buying her a scooter. Probably something that she had not even thought about wanting in her entire life.

The way I look at it is these people have come in contact with thousands of people throughout their lives. Who am I to show up out of the blue from some foreign land and be someone's savior? If the shit was that dire then surely all the people they have known way better than me would have pooled together to make whatever happen. No reason that burden should fall on this half a stranger.

I always thought the home team was supposed to show hospitality and roll out the red carpet for the visitors. In this ass-backwards shit the visitors are showing up to treat the home team like royalty and in many cases it warps their expectation of future visitors. Not my responsibility!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2600253]I am sure most board members get a kick out of your posts as I find most of them pretty funny, but don't you think your sharing a bit too much information? Barebacking? Excessive use of drugs? Buying motos for hookers? I am just saying maybe there should be just a tad more discretion in your posts as we don't want any unnecessary authorities to pay too much attention to this site. I am being overly cautious, but I think a modest line should be drawn on our activities as to keep the board safe, as well as the reputation of sex tourists. Yes I am fully aware sex tourists already have a horrible rep. , but I would like to think many of us are decent productive people just looking for a little fun once or twice a year. I think keeping posts to the point about sharing useful info on locations, rates, travel tips, ect. Should be more the focus of the forum. Safe and fun travels to all.[/QUOTE]What exactly are the Colombian police going to do? To the best of my knowledge there's no laws against bareback sex between consenting adults, or against buying scooters for girls. He might at times be in possession of more than the legal limit, but I can't see the police raiding every hotel in Medellin to find out if they have anyone registered as Osteoknot over a couple of grams of tussi.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2600438]I am sure it was not. Everyone has to learn on their own. Maybe give a nudge and say are you sure you know what you are doing, but that is about it.

My buddy, who has since passed on, was living in the Philippines and had a girl he was seeing. The chick died and he took it upon himself to financially support her daughters. I said dude what the fuck are you doing. You are 70 years old and your kids are grown. That is not your responsibility. He gave me holy hell and told me he knew what he was doing. Come to find out the chick did not die. He was just being played. He told me that he should have listened and would not find himself in that position again.

Some people's hearts are just too big for their own good. On the ThaiVisa website I mentioned a chick I was messing with had to go home and pay $3,000 for some surgery her dad was having. You would be surprised how many guys were trying to guilt me saying that I should have paid it. Why the fuck would I hand over $3000 to a chick just because we have been fucking for a couple of weeks? I didn't even know her dad and she did not even ask me for ANY money towards this. Yet tons of dudes sincerely thought that should have been on me.

Most guys take it upon themselves to be the savior, never having been asked to. I know tons of chicks that have said the guy just gave her an iPhone; she never asked for it. And from reading these threads about guys giving away phones and shit, I am sure they are not lying. I'm sure this chick didn't ask for a scooter. That sounds preposterous. It's more like since she made me cum a couple of times, I am going to impress her by buying her a scooter. Probably something that she had not even thought about wanting in her entire life.[/QUOTE]Well said.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2599937]I was chatting with two Colombian teachers and they asked how I liked Colombian food and I could only say it is OK. I explained it was very bland with no use of a certain spice that sticks out into my mind. They were not happy with my assessment.

Just because empanadas are sold on every single block in Colombia does not mean it is good and definitely the would "cuisine" should not be attached to it. Hotdogs are also sold all over the place in this country it is definitely also not cuisine. It is only "food" or low level "sustenance". Seems as if all the Colombian restaurants serve beans, rice, fried plantain, and salad with some sort of meat. That is hardly special or unique tasting.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's super bland. Germans and Colombians seem to love sausages too. Nicaraguan food is amazing, wish they served that in Colombia. Food is so important, but the cheap pussy makes up for it.

[QUOTE=LoisSanborn;2599829]I'm assuming you're working at a big company? If you were working at some lax start up you could probably get away with leaving an always on desktop set up in SF with TeamViewer or something and just transfer shit over to that computer when you need to submit work to the office. Probably be a lot harder at big tech because though, probably would have standard company issue laptops with some enterprise monitoring on them.[/QUOTE]I work for one of the FAANG companies, so nope can't do that.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2600076]I guess my reputation as an ass hole lover is going to stick. I really only see it as an equal opportunity orifice, but maybe I am in denial, jajaja.[/QUOTE]You're not alone buddy! I am a butthole aficionado as well jajajaja.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2600438]I am sure it was not. Everyone has to learn on their own. Maybe give a nudge and say are you sure you know what you are doing, but that is about it.

My buddy, who has since passed on, was living in the Philippines and had a girl he was seeing. The chick died and he took it upon himself to financially support her daughters. I said dude what the fuck are you doing. You are 70 years old and your kids are grown. That is not your responsibility. He gave me holy hell and told me he knew what he was doing. Come to find out the chick did not die. He was just being played. He told me that he should have listened and would not find himself in that position again.

Some people's hearts are just too big for their own good. On the ThaiVisa website I mentioned a chick I was messing with had to go home and pay $3,000 for some surgery her dad was having. You would be surprised how many guys were trying to guilt me saying that I should have paid it. Why the fuck would I hand over $3000 to a chick just because we have been fucking for a couple of weeks? I didn't even know her dad and she did not even ask me for ANY money towards this. Yet tons of dudes sincerely thought that should have been on me.
[/QUOTE]I'm guessing the girl asked for the scooter. I've had 2 girls ask me to buy them one. I didn't. Besides the cost, I have other reasons for not buying someone a moto. Chances are it's going to get stolen within a few weeks. Or she'll wreck it.

One of those girls asked me to pay for a boob job. I didn't, but she ended up getting one. Apparently I wasn't the only guy she asked.

I'll buy things or send money. I don't do it because I think it gets me anything and in most cases I know it does no good. Sometimes I do it because there have been people who helped me when I really needed it. Sometimes it's because I know how it feels to be at the end of your rope. There was a period when the roof over my head didn't meet the minimum qualifications to be called a roof. Sometimes it's because, on that day, I believe in karma.

And sometimes I do it because I'm a cynical bastard. I get a certain satisfaction from watching someone who says they haven't eaten in 2 days take the money I give them and run to the nearest liquor store.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2600193]Anyone sending money to girls, buying gifts for girls, or whatever you feel like doing, go right ahead. It's your money. Unless someone on ISG is paying all your expenses, how you spend your money is none of their business. My only advice is to remember, the money you spend doesn't buy you anything. The only guarantee is that you'll be asked for money again.[/QUOTE]Well said, too many guys on this forum care too much about how other mongers choose to spend their money. They earned it, they have the freedom to spend it however they want.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2600222]Your first question should be whether the company allows you to install a VPN client of your choice on the machine. If it doesn't (and few companies do) your options would be (1) connect a non work PC to your Colombia Internet service. You could then set up a VPN client on the non work PC and connect your work PC to the Colombia Internet service via the non work PC that you set up as a mobile hotspot, (2) use a mobile phone with a VPN client installed as a mobile hot spot to which you connect your work PC. Of course you can also find another job or ask to work remotely.

If you manage to get any of the above done your remaining challenge would be to avoid fucking and partying so much you would be incapable of meeting your work commitments. Let us know how you make out.[/QUOTE]Ah great advice. Didn't think of that as a possible option (mobile hotspot). Thanks!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2600222]Your first question should be whether the company allows you to install a VPN client of your choice on the machine. If it doesn't (and few companies do) your options would be (1) connect a non work PC to your Colombia Internet service. You could then set up a VPN client on the non work PC and connect your work PC to the Colombia Internet service via the non work PC that you set up as a mobile hotspot, (2) use a mobile phone with a VPN client installed as a mobile hot spot to which you connect your work PC. Of course you can also find another job or ask to work remotely.

If you manage to get any of the above done your remaining challenge would be to avoid fucking and partying so much you would be incapable of meeting your work commitments. Let us know how you make out.[/QUOTE]Yeah. I'll stick to the vacations every 3-4 months until I figure out how to start a entrepreneurial business LOL.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2600201]And said you were "new" to the game. Honestly, I try NOT to focus on usernames and instead concentrate on content so I don't bias myself for or against other users here. BUT, JFC, I've been called a "Quick Study" before but you're fuckin' unreal. If you really were as green as you said, you have an amazing ability to process, analyze, organize, and the highest function, synthesize new information. Golf clap. Tip of the cap. Suck my dick. I hate you. Jaja. JK. Obvio. Keep up the strong work. You are a credit to this Board. Ostee Out.[/QUOTE]Jajaja I appreciate that hermano. You know that shit is mutual.

Everything I said was true, still I am a man who when consumed with something, can go a little overboard.

But maybe it's because I feel an odd sense of camaraderie with y'all. And since you guys helped me so much I hope to pay it forward.

Still learning a lot from you and the other pros on here so it's a two way street. Keep 'them comin.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2600522]I'll buy things or send money. I don't do it because I think it gets me anything and in most cases I know it does no good. Sometimes I do it because there have been people who helped me when I really needed it. Sometimes it's because I know how it feels to be at the end of your rope. There was a period when the roof over my head didn't meet the minimum qualifications to be called a roof. Sometimes it's because, on that day, I believe in karma.[/QUOTE]I have a girl I have known here for five years. Met her in El Centro, and when we get together, I never pay her more than 50 K for two to three hours. This last week she told me how she qualifies for monthly support from the Government, albeit something like only 200 K a month, but can't because she doesn't have E Mail. She's so poor she only has a burner phone. I couldn't believe what I was hearing and when I met her in El Centro yesterday after hearing her story, and thinking about it, I bought her a basic smart phone for 200 K, had Whatsapp added onto the phone and had her get an E mail address so she could get the Government assistance she qualifies for. I grapple at times trying to understand how poor some of the people are here. It felt great to help her out.

Good stuff man, liz is a bombshell, zandaley always has good service and the hottest casa girls in town. Nice job on the three some in centro, the land of opportunity.

[QUOTE=ClockTicking87;2598017]After spending a month mongering around Europe and reading this decided it was time for a quick weekend warrior trip to medallo, Spanish is my first language since I moved to the states when I was a teenager, found a spirit round trip for 220 $ for 4 full days of bliss, there was no time for Facebook, SA or tinder chicas, I'm a hardcore casas guy, done it before in Guadalajara, Barcelona and Madrid, plus some Frankfurt FKK.

Decided to stay at a hostel in poblano just to go to sleep, 60 $ for 4 nights, totally worth it and fun, have done most of my research on a Colombian forum, decided to go to el Centro casas, Zandaly, new life and aiffe, plus maybe some botero lagniappe, I'm 34 and can easily have 4 solid orgasms a day with no problems.

DAY ONE: uber to Zandaly and it was close, walked to new life and there was a big selection, went with a white paisa that was really my type, I always do at least one hour in Medellin since is so cheap (70-90,000).

Had a great time with her and don't remember her name, then walked like two blocks to aiffe and there was another mongerer already there, he took the white paisa I wanted, since he was there before me that was ok, I went with a Venezuelan girl not bad looking and really great service, almost everything was on the table with this girl, in my case almost all the time Venezuelan girls always give me a better treatment Than colombianas.

After aiffe decided to eat something at a cafeteria outside, huge lunch with natural juice and cafe con leche for 10,000 p, after lunch and coffee decided to walk to plaza botero for the first time and had to wait for the rain, after almost an hour of rain I was getting worry about the talent and decided to walk around a lot to get familiar with the space, as a Latino I have absolutely no problem walking in el Centro but is always good to watch your back, saw this two Venezuelan spinners that look like sisters and started talking to them, was worry about age and asked for cedula with no problem, one was 19 and the other one 22, they were actually cousins, this was my first threesome ever so I told them to please take it easy on me, paid 30,000 p for the place and they asked me 30 for each, I told them I want an hour cause I hate rushing and gave them 60 each for an hour, I started teaching them how to give a massage, I always like to treat this ladies with dignity and respect and it always pays off, this girls were very clean and had some of the sweetest pussys I've ever tasted, everything was covered (my choice) we was having so much fun that 2 hours went by without noticing, one of them really liked me and we ended up kissing and fucking passionately. I'm so glad I took this service and got their whatsapp, so yes you can find amazing service with street walkers. Around 7 pm after staying in my hostel decided to go to eros spa and went with a Venezuelan girl with a very exotic look, great service and really good sex, she got really really wet, after fucking 5 chicks and having 5 orgasms decided to go with a guy I met at the hostel to parque Lleras, went to club full of young locals and no working girls, it was nice but no mongering and time was not my friend, then went to gustos and Lleras club, gustos was not my thing bunch of fake tits and boobs and quoting over 200 $ get the hell out of here, bunch of working girls walking around the park quoting around 200,000 pesos, was really tired got something to eat and went to sleep.

DAY 2 : took an uber to Zandaly and it was open, nice place with a bar, there was this older gringo drinking at the bar and he was really nice, he's been in Colombia for decades and gave me lots of advice, went with liz, really good looking Venezuelan, amazing girlfriend experience, then walked to new life and got with a petite young paisa forgot her name, she was really cute, told me she was 24 but looked more like 20 21, gave her a good massage and she paid me back with amazing fucking, no kissing tho, most casa paisas don't like to kiss, went and grabbed lunch at the same spot, then went to aiffe again and the paisa from the day before was not there so went with this thick curvy paisa, I love spinners but one curvy girl a year won't hurt, OMG I forgot her name but this girl is making me reconsider my preferences, one of the best fucks in my life, she got turn on by my massages and then I had to extend the session cause it was that good, I told her that the black American brothers must to love her big hard ass and she started laughing as of how that hell you know, this chick was super tight.

Decided to go with my boy to the mall in Poblado (I think it was Santa Fe) I hate the freaking mask since I can't see the girls faces, got a haircut and we ate dinner there, then took an uber to marque lleras and our driver recommended us to go to provensa if we wanted to avoid the parque lleras environment, she explained how parque Lleras used to be a nice place were locals use to go and have good time, so now provensa took that place, we had a great time and the vive felt so different, I started talking with my server (cute girl from Barranquilla) and she told me they are not allowed to talk much with customers, so they don't want that place to become parque lleras, I felt kind of bad since I wasn't even soliciting anything just getting to know her, after a few drinks went to sleep.

DAY 3: why change what's working, so went to the same trifecta, first Zandaly, went with Mia beautiful and sweet paisa, went over an hour with her, this girl is so beautiful and sweet I felt like I was with a girlfriend, I love you Mia LOL, I decided to stay in Zandaly since I liked this other girl Tatiana, she is another paisa really a talker, I was attracted to her tits but after being with Mia she was fine and a good fuck but not great and then she talks to much, decided to go and get some more cash and found a place to eat, great pork dish and cafe con leche 15,000 p, then walked to new life and got this white Venezuelan lady, she was very classy like a novel actress, very educated woman, she was 36 years old with no kids, usually not my cup of tea but she gave a great service and kissed me like her boyfriend, over all was a good session and she was so intelligent I wouldn't mind hanging out with her, after I got to my hostel my bartender recommended me a legit massage place since my neck was killing me, it was more of a sensual massage place, went 4 hands with this two beautiful white looking girls, one from Bogota and the other one from Venezuela, it was a good massage with body to body slides etc, they made me explode and I didn't want to push extras since I wasn't looking for that, paid 250000 p I think.

After that went to salsa classes with some locals and then to walk around to some local bars, it was lot of fun. This was my last night.

In the morning my hostel has covid test services so they come to you, they came around 8 am and my flight was around 2 pm, got my results in less than a hour, check out of the hostel and around 10 am was at zandalys for my last session, went with this tall redhead with lots of tattoos, had a great time with her, she was paisa and no kissing allow, after finishing with her was like 11:15 am, went to get a water by the bar and saw this cute face with a beautiful smile, her name was Joyce, Venezuelan kind of curvy but her natural beauty turned me on, I said fuck it lets do 30 min since I'm pushing it, went and got a great time with her, took an uber to the airport, have in mine only took a back pack for simplicity.

Over all I need to spend at least 6 months in Medellin but for the weekend warrior this is a great destination if you do your research, lots of gringos mongering around so that shouldn't be problem, I hate the ATM fees, next time I need to take all the cash I need in one transaction since is always around 25,0000 pesos fee no matter the amount, took a collectivo from the airport to my hostel and the driver was really nice and got me a SIM card with internet for 20,000. In my next trip I want to go to fase dos and la Isla, I'm not much of a club person but have try it.

I love you Medellin. Be safe out there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MikeCct;2600265]Osteoknot, What are the chances, unfortunately one of the girls I see went to the hospital on that same night due to a suicide attempt. What are the chances we're seeing the same girl? My bet it potentially pretty high. I do feel for my girl and I'm giving her a lot of attention since recovery. IDK, is this something common that girls from Medellin are known for?[/QUOTE]She made a bee-line for my hotel room when she got out of the hospital and I thought I was going to have to be the wise powerful supportive role model and she fuckin' schooled me sexually and psychologically. Within five minutes of her arrival, I was literally curled in a fetal position crying like a baby in her lap, and I think she was laughing her head off, I couldn't tell for sure because I would not open my eyes. Few minutes later we were both happy as hell.

Tonight she was the final girl of a five-girl, nine-hour Love Motel marathon in Bello, that had unbelievable highs and lows. Reconnected and disconnected with Secret for the first since she stormed out of my hotel room several days ago from the booty-hole massage, she's from Bello. Scarlet, the girl with the attention-seeking suicide gesture came directly to the Love Motel after her "detox" drug meeting at the hospital, and immediately pounded the pink shit which I freely offered up, and the sex was amazing again for two times in a row. She made it clear and I believe her that her depression had little or nothing to do with me. She has a typical fucked-up Colombian upbringing, both parents abandoned her a long time ago and she is raising her 12 yo brother by herself, She's only 18. She seems relieved to get bumped down my list 3 or 4 slots and out of novia status because I was not fulfilling her expectations as a boyfriend plain and simple. She's the sane one, I am surprised any of them put up with my shit. But we are happier than we have been in a long time and she loves knowing she will get a regular payoff every time we have sex.

I can't keep up with reports anymore. My most recent Muan Jungle Girl post was 3 or 4 days old. There's just too much goin' on. The feedback was unexpected and great about the moto. To me that was just an incidental event for which I needed some nuts and bolts advice. Like moving a checker on board. Not chess. Checkers. I haven't made a move in this country that I can't turn around and walk away from emotionally, spiritually and financially in a heartbeat without any regrets. I think that may be one reason why I am so fuckin' happy, which is one of the great points everyone missed. How about doing something because it makes you happy?

JujuBe showed his subject matter expertise and provided a complete answer to my question about driving the moto, which was an afterthought. I have four attorneys on retainer, and I know when it's time to call one. A few of the regulars did a stand-up job about my rights to choose and spend, but no one is even close to what is really going on in my life and why I do the things I do, but really that's not important. I believe one of the greatest human fallacies is the need to be understood. No one understands any other person, IMO. We tolerate, accept and adapt, try to understand and empathize. But fuck, even your own mother and wife don't understand you, so what kind if insight should anyone expect about their own behaviors on a board about mongering of all things. Which BTW, is no holds barred. This is not a travelogue, hotel review site, 4-H Club or Girl Scouts. It's about mongering. The nitty and gritty. The fucking and the sucking If you can't take it, then I would suggest you don't belong here, not me. I happen to believe in the old fashioned American right of free speech, which of lot of the places listed here, don't have. That makes it all the more important. Great feedback and stimulating conversation! Keep On Keepin' On.

Can anyone tell me if Apoteosis Club is still open and running??

Does anyone know of any Medellin focused monger WhatsApp groups? Again, I live in Medellin, so I'm always looking to link up with link minded guys to swap stories and info. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2600416] It seems unlikely an amateur with no experience that can barely get dressed (organize) for a date will own a scooter and drive it without hurting herself.[/QUOTE]I had resigned myself to "I hope she has a guardian angel" and basically accepted that if any physical harm occurred to her as a result my getting her a moto, that I was the gringo who gave it to her. But in this culture and logistics, moto = freedom and independence. And within the city, even moreso than a car. A moto is the most efficient way to get from Point A to Point Be (fucking auto editor), between lanes, moving to the front of the pack at a stop light, etc. But then she towed my fat ass around on the back of a few different motos she borrowed from her friends, and I was impressed by her skills. I rode motorcycles my whole life. Gave them up to prevent killing myself. The last two bikes I cracked up were a Suzuki GSX 750 and a Harley Davidson cafe racer. The Harley got me Medivac'd by helicopter to the trauma center in Honolulu, in a coma, of course. I'm sayin I've been around bikes more than a bit and I can tell if someone belongs on two wheels or not. I knew she was athletic, possibly the most athletic girlfriend I have ever had, and that usually translates to good moto skills. So anywho, risk deemed acceptable, tomorrow is promised to no one. Furthermore, have you noticed a lot of chicas scattered and separated from their motos on the roadside? I haven't. Maybe they are better at it than we thought, jeje.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2600416] It doesn't matter if you buy them a house and a car, after the deal is done it's "what have you done for me lately".[/QUOTE]Just like back in the good ol' US of A (auto-editor, jaja).

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2600545]... I bought her a basic smart phone for 200 K, had Whatsapp added onto the phone and had her get an E mail address so she could get the Government assistance she qualifies for.....[/QUOTE]Fuck those NGOs who say sex tourism is bad for Colombia.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2600503]This sting got me before.

The FBI and Cook County Sheriffs.

[URL]https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/09/03/27-men-looking-to-buy-sex-arrested-in-cook-county-sheriff-investigation/[/URL][/QUOTE]I see those stings as repressed evangelicals getting a little excitement in their lives.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2600588]Good stuff man, liz is a bombshell, zandaley always has good service and the hottest casa girls in town. Nice job on the three some in centro, the land of opportunity.[/QUOTE]That is correct, some of these casa girls will treat you great that they will leave a long time GF experience. During my last visit, One of the girl in NewLife treated me so well that I felt Jealous after another monger waiting outside for her and took her in the room.

It was totally off the charts yesterday in El Centro from between 4 and 6 PM. Never seen so many girls out and lots of pretty new ones. Also saw cops on patrol with emblems saying adolescent on them checking ID's and Cedulas of very young looking girls working the street. There appeared to be more of a police presence out, and it was hard walking along the glass passageway besides the Church with all the vendors and people transiting thru the area. Also as usual saw more gringos and other foreigners making the rounds as well. Almost like a four ring circus with all the Venezuelan "groupies" at ground zero Calle 52/ Carrea 52, the raunchy Colombians that line the passageway besides the Church, the backside of the Church with all the bars and Colombians drinking beers, and the passageway on the side of the Museum with all the stoners hanging out. I can remember in High School being told to take laps around the track, now I'm taking laps along these corridors. And so many available, and 90% of them willing to do literally anything for the right price.

I'm returning today, I have an appointment with my new 21 year old Colombian spinner at Hotel Premium Plaza, I'm going to bang her on one of the "fuck chairs" they have in the rooms. Last time I was with her we had a room with a big bath tub which she insisted I fill up which took like half and hour and then she insisted on banging me in it after it was filled. Forty seven years younger than me with a tight little body that can administer a pounding to this old fart. I only give her like 50 k to 60 K for between 2 to 3 hours together and she's such a turn on with her tiny bubble gum butt which is very firm. She's a soccer player and totally fit without an ounce of fat on her. I'm not sure what she likes about me, I'm not paying her much compared to what other guys are paying girls for a few hours, but she's also not a regular down there. I spotted her a few weeks ago roaming around, and I had never seen her there before so chatted her up and we hit it off with four sessions together now and she wants to do a TLN.

El Centro can be heaven in paradise for some if you have the time and patience to work it.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2600335]Sophie came two nights in a row and hours late the second night.[/QUOTE]Love the final foto. Thats my kinda girl.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2600736]Love the final foto. Thats my kinda girl.[/QUOTE]She's never been here. She's in Cali. That is the only place I have seen her. She is as whack-a-doodle as Sophie. But that body, fuckin' hawt as fuk fuk fuk. I'm always torn about travel for trim. There is so much Grade A pussy available staring at you right in the face here, why ship it in? But there is something about knowing that a person traveled mucho kilometers to fuck you. That fuels the sexual flame. I dunno. I always tell myself it's not worth it, don't go to the extra trouble. But then I still do it. Like now. Maybe she's what I would call an exception to the rule. I dunno. Don't think. Just fuck. Jaja, I think that belongs on a T-shirt. The three fotos are all her. What would you do? Classic risk-reward conundrum. I almost forgot. She's got an 18 year old sister. Just as hot. I kid you not.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2600545]I have a girl I have known here for five years. Met her in El Centro, and when we get together, I never pay her more than 50 K for two to three hours. This last week she told me how she qualifies for monthly support from the Government, albeit something like only 200 K a month, but can't because she doesn't have E Mail. She's so poor she only has a burner phone. I couldn't believe what I was hearing and when I met her in El Centro yesterday after hearing her story, and thinking about it, I bought her a basic smart phone for 200 K, had Whatsapp added onto the phone and had her get an E mail address so she could get the Government assistance she qualifies for. I grapple at times trying to understand how poor some of the people are here. It felt great to help her out.[/QUOTE]Strong work. What was the make and model of the basic smart phone, if you don't mind my asking?

That is awful. I think $1,500 could fund at least a couple of trips to Medellin. The good news is the punters only got expensive citations. That is much better than having their personal and professional lives ruined with a criminal record. Those citations are the legal equivalent of traffic fines.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2600503]This sting got me before.

The FBI and Cook County Sheriffs.

[URL]https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/09/03/27-men-looking-to-buy-sex-arrested-in-cook-county-sheriff-investigation/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2600782]That is awful. I think $1,500 could fund at least a couple of trips to Medellin. The good news is the punters only got expensive citations. That is much better than having their personal and professional lives ruined with a criminal record. Those citations are the legal equivalent of traffic fines.[/QUOTE]Some details, just in case it was ever a sting I would always put my keys in the glove box and my ignition key inside my gas cap door and closed it.

Once inside it was obvious it was 2 female cops pacing in the hotel room, I said I wasn't interested I had to leave and go back to work.

As I was walking towards the elevator suddenly 10 guys coming running out of other rooms including wearing FBI windbreakers, they mentioned towing my car, but I said I didn't drive (and yes they checked my pockets for the keys).

So they gave me a $500 ticket, and I promptly threw it away before going home.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2600773]What would you do? She's got an 18 year old sister. Just as hot. I kid you not.[/QUOTE]I'd give me her whatsapp nr and let me do some investigations for you. Haha.

Hey guys,

Been a regular reader of this forum. So far had a good time in Las Isla and fase dos followed by early mornings in paradise. I'm into preggo. Went around in centro but could not find any till now. Surfer500 I know you are guru into this. Can you give me some pointers.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2600831]I'd give me her whatsapp nr and let me do some investigations for you. Haha.[/QUOTE]The risks are fairly self-evident. She's your guest and therefore your captive audience and if things don't go well, you're stuck. On the pro side, I spent two nights at her place in Cali. To this day, the most dangerous neighborhood I have ever stayed anywhere in the world, including Third World near ghetto. Strata 1, southside Cali. I did not dare step foot out her wrought iron door at night. And in the day, it was only to walk five feet and get into a Uber. Nothing bad happened, but my Spidey-Sense was on full tingle the entire time. And our visit was not silky smooth, but I would say the one issue we had was 80% my fault, and is a non-issue now.

As far has her sister, there's already a line forming. I tried for the tag team while I was there but sis was in Bogota. And Caliente Cali is the super jealous type and already insecure about her sister being better looking, obviously in the face. Can't improve much on that body, pussy and ass of hers unless lithe, tall, muscular, flaca, tight, Vickie's Secret and smooth is not your type, jajajajaja. I think I can put my hands on a foto which will be pointless because I will obscure their faces, but it gives you an idea and some fantasy which is like endorphins for your brain.

Took me over a year on-line and probably the equivalent of $500 (spread over that year) to get her address, although I did not get the actual barrio until I was in the taxi leaving the airport, so she could've ghosted me up until the last minute. I'm glad she didn't.

That year online when I tried to get to know her, she blocked and unblocked me probably five times jajajaja. To me that's progress (as long as the last one was an unblock, jaja) because there is a thin line between love and hate (channeling The Pretenders). Love is better obvio. Apathy by far is the worst of all.

The younger sister is on the right in the first foto with the browned out faces. Now that I see that foto again, Caliente Cali has the better body, and younger sis has the better face. I've had that exact same situation before, with sisters. You put them side by side on the edge of the bed, the one with the good body in doggy, and the one with the good face in missionary, and while standing, go back and forth. Or your keep the good body in doggy at the edge of the bed, and you have the pretty face rest her head on top of the other's ass, so you have three different kinds of holes conveniently lined up. I think I can put my hands on a foto of that, obviously not the same two girls and they are not sisters. Worked for me, jeje, but hey, everyone's different. The final two fotos with blue over the faces is of the actual sisters in Cucuta who I positioned like the chicas in the second foto and as I described above. Any questions? Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2600725]That is correct, some of these casa girls will treat you great that they will leave a long time GF experience. During my last visit, One of the girl in NewLife treated me so well that I felt Jealous after another monger waiting outside for her and took her in the room.[/QUOTE]Do they offer BBBJ at the casas?

Gents,

Thanks for all the great intels on the Medellin scenes.

Allow me to ask a question. Do any of your have advices on how to screen a Tinder or Seeking Arrangement girl before bringing them to your home or hotel or apartment? I am reading some stories of drugging or the robber when you bring the girl upstairs. Do you have anything tips or tactics that you use to understand if its safe or not? I am thinking its good that my doorman keeps ladies ID. Does that help?

I understand I should put everything valuable in the safe.

What other things can I do to protect me? Will they try drugging me if I serving drink. Will they come back next day and follow me? Should I speak to my doorsman?

Any questions I can ask the ladies.

I would very appreciate your suggestions. And sorry for my dumb questions.

Cheers.

U1.

[QUOTE=AjaiGoa;2600878]Hey guys,

Been a regular reader of this forum. So far had a good time in Las Isla and fase dos followed by early mornings in paradise. I'm into preggo. Went around in centro but could not find any till now. Surfer500 I know you are guru into this. Can you give me some pointers.[/QUOTE]Amazing you are a regular reader but not reading other sections. Someone asked in the "Other areas" section. Nobody answered so I did and was willing to walk him to each one. I know of 6-7 preggos. Guy never responded which tells me he is full of crap (not here, no membership, etc). Tomorrow I meet one at 10:00 am who is 4 months along. Want her before she gets too big. Good luck to you and the gurus on this site who seem to know everything. I am not a picture taker but if I remember I will take a tummy picture and post it for you.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2600887]Do they offer BBBJ at the casas?[/QUOTE]I don't remember a girl that did it without asking on first date, but they certainly do on repeats. Plus most will do it for a tip on first date. Some also FK without. Depends how well you get on and on the girl.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2600879]To this day, the most dangerous neighborhood I have ever stayed anywhere in the world.[/QUOTE]I know that it takes some adjusting to, but I strongly believe its something you can get accustomed to. I have also been to some pretty unusual places. Woke up with a cocktail girl in a mud hut squatter camp in Maputo, got lost drunk driving and wound up parking in a large informal settlement after midnight somewhere between Pretoria and Johannesburg. Sure, it gets your heart pumping the first time when your out of your comfort zone. But I think people are people. Nearly everyone just wants a bit of respect and consideration, no matter where they live. They just want to get on in their lives the best they can. Treat people like with respect and dignity, and they nearly always reciprocate.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2600774]Strong work. What was the make and model of the basic smart phone, if you don't mind my asking?[/QUOTE]There's so many brands of basic smart phones at cheap prices starting as low as 150 K and I don't remember the brand or model. All vendors offer a one year guarantee, albeit it may be a pain in the ass to deal with a phone that takes a dump that isn't from an established vendor like Claro or Samsung and I'm sure there are others where if you walk in with your receipt I'm assuming they will be able to rectify a problem quicker than if bought from cell phone store that sells a lot of different brands. I have two USA I phones I keep locked up in my place, and a Colombian burner phone I carry with me. A lot of the other board members here know lots more about phones here than me.

For anyone contemplating buying a phone here they intend to use on subsequent trips, you should register your phone with the carrier you have such as Claro as an example, you will need to go in with your ID such as a passport. Once registered, if you lose the phone or it gets stolen, you can get your same number back. I did lose my burner phone once, I went to a Claro office, showed them my ID, and it cost me 3 K for a new SIM card with the same number. Also, and I'm a little fuzzy on this, maybe somebody knows this, but if you don't recharge your phone with saldo every two months you lose whatever balance you have and if the phone is inactive for a period of time you lose the number. During the Pandemic shutdown in 2020 I remotely recharged my burner phone every two months to maintain my number, but still am not clear on this, albeit it was $ 3 USD to do so. And every time I add saldo here I get a text message with a new expiration date two months out.

Sunday. My ex-wife always considered Saturday to be the Sabbath Day. Took a little getting used to. My mongering stories are just examples of someone on a journey. I don't want anyone to be like me. You will probably be better of less like me. I want two things for people. They should feel loved, and they should find their own way. Buddhists call it enlightenment. Christians say you are "saved. " Psychologists call it self- actualization. Popeye said, "I am what I am, and that's all that I am. " Since this a mongering board, and I am a monger, those are the examples I have. There is a great dichotomy here because we are taking what is potentially the most personal interaction between two people, and commoditizing it. I love it. The world would be a better place if more people thought like us, not less. So carry on, my waywards sons, there'll be peace when you are done. Lay you weary head to rest. Don't you cry no more. Kansas. I love you, man. Bud Light.

Random gratuitous photos from this trip. The business card is a Love Motel in Bello (short time, 30 mil COP for 3 hours) that I can recommend.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2601037]I don't remember a girl that did it without asking on first date, but they certainly do on repeats. Plus most will do it for a tip on first date. Some also FK without. Depends how well you get on and on the girl.[/QUOTE]Even the ones at Loutron?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2601057]There's so many brands of basic smart phones at cheap prices starting as low as 150 K and I don't remember the brand or model.[/QUOTE]There are 2 main differences between cheap and expensive phones: the processor and the screen. If a mf is doing nothing except sending messages back and forth and taking pictures, then obviously there is no need for an expensive processor or screen.

I bought my girlfriend in Brazil a top of the line Samsung phone a few months back. I only bought it because she kept asking me to take pictures and I was like what is wrong with your phone. Come to find out she has had the same phone since way before the 4 years ago when we met and it was fucking up. So I bought her a new phone so I wouldn't have to be bothered to take pictures with mine anymore.

2 days ago I put the Pimsleur audio on her phone so she could learn English. I was shocked to find out she did not even have a media player on the phone, nor has she added any extra memory. She has not even put music on there. I definitely overpaid! The 150K phone that Surf bought should serve the needs of 9 out of 10 chicks.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2601057]. Also, and I'm a little fuzzy on this, maybe somebody knows this, but if you don't recharge your phone with saldo every two months you lose whatever balance you have and if the phone is inactive for a period of time you lose the number. During the Pandemic shutdown in 2020 I remotely recharged my burner phone every two months to maintain my number, but still am not clear on this, albeit it was $ 3 USD to do so. And every time I add saldo here I get a text message with a new expiration date two months out.[/QUOTE]This is useful for those that visit multiple times a year, and would appreciate clarity on it if anyone knows. Having a phone charged up and ready as you land in the airport is a luxury and $3 a month is a feel I would gladly pay to keep it going. I have an older model iPhone registered with Claro, I lose my number each time and I have to get a new one and it's a 30 min trip to the store.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2601140]I have an older model iPhone registered with Claro, I lose my number each time and I have to get a new one and it's a 30 min trip to the store.[/QUOTE]You should add money on your phone using [URL]www.etopuponline.com[/URL] every so often.

[QUOTE=United1;2600900]Gents,

Thanks for all the great intels on the Medellin scenes.

Allow me to ask a question. Do any of your have advices on how to screen a Tinder or Seeking Arrangement girl before bringing them to your home or hotel or apartment? I am reading some stories of drugging or the robber when you bring the girl upstairs. Do you have anything tips or tactics that you use to understand if its safe or not? I am thinking its good that my doorman keeps ladies ID. Does that help?

I understand I should put everything valuable in the safe.

What other things can I do to protect me? Will they try drugging me if I serving drink. Will they come back next day and follow me? Should I speak to my doorsman?

Any questions I can ask the ladies.

I would very appreciate your suggestions. And sorry for my dumb questions.

Cheers.

U1.[/QUOTE]Try first and meet outside of your apartment if you are very paranoid of this problem. Over 6 years I Haven't had one issue but I do keep my guard up.

Get her IG, usually a girl who is active on socials and if you can secretly find her family members she follows you should be ok.

Avoid girls who only wanted to come in two or insist.

Sometimes they will just show up to the door with them already without mentioning them. Tell them NO I am not comfortable. I had this a couple weeks back and the girl let her girl fall back. It might seem mean and harsh but just explain you had a bad experience.

Obviously hide your valuables in multiple places that are hard to get to.

Go up high.

High in the kitchen cabinets or on top of them, spread it around.

You.

Can do a test and leave a 50,000 bill on a table in plain sight as a litmus test.

Always control the bottle.

You open it.

You watch the pour.

It stays with you. If you go to the bathroom put it in the fridge and mark it with something on top so you can tell if it's been moved.

Other then that, always listen to your gut. If something is off, just leave.

Jerk off later or go to a casa.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2601099]Even the ones at Loutron?[/QUOTE]I couldn't say for sure because I refuse to pay those prices. Am sure someone else here could tell you.

[QUOTE=AjaiGoa;2600878]Hey guys,

Been a regular reader of this forum. So far had a good time in Las Isla and fase dos followed by early mornings in paradise. I'm into preggo. Went around in centro but could not find any till now. Surfer500 I know you are guru into this. Can you give me some pointers.[/QUOTE]Go to centro tomorrow, theres a tan morena girl about 5'10 5 months pregnant with blondish short hair. She's like 22 and gives great head. She stand in front of the church by the fountain everyday can't miss her. I have fucked her when she wasnt preg last year and again last week. She is much hornier now. Ha

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2601146]You should add money on your phone using [URL]www.etopuponline.com[/URL] every so often.[/QUOTE]Can't believe I never heard of that Website before. Unfortunately, my carrier is not on their list (Minit). Obviously, I have been overpaying for cell phones.

Catgirl already ruined her new iPhone Promax 12, it's only useful as a paperweight anymore, jajajaja, joke's on me.

She is about to learn the difference between an iPhone and the cheapest phone I can find that will send texts and use Whassap. Probably only a matter of time before she ruins the moto, too. Oh well, as long as she's doesn't get hurt in the process I can live with it.

Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2601174]Can't believe I never heard of that Website before. Unfortunately, my carrier is not on their list (Minit). Obviously, I have been overpaying for cell phones.

Catgirl already ruined her new iPhone Promax 12, it's only useful as a paperweight anymore, jajajaja, joke's on me.

She is about to learn the difference between an iPhone and the cheapest phone I can find that will send texts and use Whassap. Probably only a matter of time before she ruins the moto, too. Oh well, as long as she's doesn't get hurt in the process I can live with it.

Ostee Out.[/QUOTE]There are multiple websites for charging overseas phones, and when you enter the number it will even identify the carrier. And paying more than 200 K for a basic smart phone for a Chica is a waste. Most of these chicas don't know the difference from shit and shinola, just being able to Whatsapp is basically all they need versus a killer camera like on the I phone 12, a total waste and something they would never appreciate, especially the wide angle lens on the I phone 12, it's awesome!

Great advices BlueC. Thanks you brotha.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2601148]Try first and meet outside of your apartment if you are very paranoid of this problem. Over 6 years I Haven't had one issue but I do keep my guard up.

Get her IG, usually a girl who is active on socials and if you can secretly find her family members she follows you should be ok.

Avoid girls who only wanted to come in two or insist.

Sometimes they will just show up to the door with them already without mentioning them. Tell them NO I am not comfortable. I had this a couple weeks back and the girl let her girl fall back. It might seem mean and harsh but just explain you had a bad experience.

Obviously hide your valuables in multiple places that are hard to get to.

Go up high..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2601167]Go to centro tomorrow, theres a tan morena girl about 5'10 5 months pregnant with blondish short hair. She's like 22 and gives great head. She stand in front of the church by the fountain everyday can't miss her. I have fucked her when she wasnt preg last year and again last week. She is much hornier now. Ha[/QUOTE]This begs the question, whose the Daddy? Maybe you? LOL.

I saw her out there on Saturday, and yes she has what looks like a 5 month baby bump.

I thought about going with her several times, and hear she's a good performer, and barebacks as well, but I always passed. A little to rough around the edges for me.

[URL]eztop.com[/URL] is one of several others. You will get a lower cost if you recharge or pay monthly bills directly on the carriers' web sites. You have to first register a credit card. "Do I have to be in Colombia" is a question that often comes up and the answer is no.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2601174]Can't believe I never heard of that Website before. Unfortunately, my carrier is not on their list (Minit). Obviously, I have been overpaying for cell phones.

Catgirl already ruined her new iPhone Promax 12, it's only useful as a paperweight anymore, jajajaja, joke's on me.

She is about to learn the difference between an iPhone and the cheapest phone I can find that will send texts and use Whassap. Probably only a matter of time before she ruins the moto, too. Oh well, as long as she's doesn't get hurt in the process I can live with it.

Ostee Out.[/QUOTE]

Centro rat tip. I think the girl you described goes by the name Mariangel. She is definitely a regular denizen.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2601167]Go to centro tomorrow, theres a tan morena girl about 5'10 5 months pregnant with blondish short hair. She's like 22 and gives great head. She stand in front of the church by the fountain everyday can't miss her. I have fucked her when she wasnt preg last year and again last week. She is much hornier now. Ha[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2601167]Go to centro tomorrow, theres a tan morena girl about 5'10 5 months pregnant with blondish short hair. She's like 22 and gives great head. She stand in front of the church by the fountain everyday can't miss her. I have fucked her when she wasnt preg last year and again last week. She is much hornier now. Ha[/QUOTE]I was in Centro for couple of hours in the morning did not find any. Have a flight tomorrow evening. Will try my luck for last time I. My life in morning again else I think my fantasy will always remain a fantasy.

You can register over the Internet. You do need a cedula or passport number but you don't have to show it to anybody.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2601057]There's so many brands of basic smart phones at cheap prices starting as low as 150 K and I don't remember the brand or model. All vendors offer a one year guarantee, albeit it may be a pain in the ass to deal with a phone that takes a dump that isn't from an established vendor like Claro or Samsung and I'm sure there are others where if you walk in with your receipt I'm assuming they will be able to rectify a problem quicker than if bought from cell phone store that sells a lot of different brands. I have two USA I phones I keep locked up in my place, and a Colombian burner phone I carry with me. A lot of the other board members here know lots more about phones here than me.

For anyone contemplating buying a phone here they intend to use on subsequent trips, you should register your phone with the carrier you have such as Claro as an example, you will need to go in with your ID such as a passport. Once registered, if you lose the phone or it gets stolen, you can get your same number back. I did lose my burner phone once, I went to a Claro office, showed them my ID, and it cost me 3 K for a new SIM card with the same number. Also, and I'm a little fuzzy on this, maybe somebody knows this, but if you don't recharge your phone with saldo every two months you lose whatever balance you have and if the phone is inactive for a period of time you lose the number. During the Pandemic shutdown in 2020 I remotely recharged my burner phone every two months to maintain my number, but still am not clear on this, albeit it was $ 3 USD to do so. And every time I add saldo here I get a text message with a new expiration date two months out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2600916]Amazing you are a regular reader but not reading other sections. Someone asked in the "Other areas" section. Nobody answered so I did and was willing to walk him to each one. I know of 6-7 preggos. Guy never responded which tells me he is full of crap (not here, no membership, etc). Tomorrow I meet one at 10:00 am who is 4 months along. Want her before she gets too big. Good luck to you and the gurus on this site who seem to know everything. I am not a picture taker but if I remember I will take a tummy picture and post it for you.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the update. Am still working on it. No luck in centro today too.

[QUOTE=AjaiGoa;2601196]I was in Centro for couple of hours in the morning did not find any. Have a flight tomorrow evening. Will try my luck for last time I. My life in morning again else I think my fantasy will always remain a fantasy.[/QUOTE]Very slow in Centro on Sundays, was there this afternoon and saw nothing to write home about, albeit I've had some good Sunday's there. And not sure what your fantasy is. Perhaps bang a girl for $ 10 USD, but that's not a fantasy here. LOL.

Quick trip. Quick report.

Flew down recently for what I planned to be a long weekend first visit to Bogota. Arrived Wednesday night, dropped my stuff off at the hotel and went directly to Sante Fe. Starting at 11 pm and for the next 3 hours I walked the streets all over Santa Fe. I also stopped in a couple clubs in Santa Fe.

I was very unimpressed with the women there. It may be because I got there at the wrong time of day or because a lot of the Venezuelan hotties went back to their country because of Covid.

Once I got back to my hotel, I booked a flight to my home away from home (Medellin). So, within 12 hours of landing in Bogota, I was already in Medellin.

Medellin was perfect as always. I found a spa called Dan Spa on the 3rd floor of Centro Comercial Rio Sur in El Poblado. It's pretty nice for 120 k, a girl will give you an excellent massage.

If you give her a tip, she will throw in a happy ending. There are 3 girls to choose from, all cute in their mid to late twenties.

I grabbed their business card on the way out and it says they have another location in the Diez Hotel.

I was on a budget this trip and only smashed one chica, who I met previously on my last trip to Medellin. She is a cute 20 yo Colombian spinner. She recently returned from a one week vacation to Cancun (a gringo paid for this trip).

I was out in Parque Lleras on Friday night and there was tons a talented working girls all over. A couple American guys chatted me up and we just talked to some girls and traded stories back and forth about our trips to Colombia.

I didn't ask for their ISG names, because the topic never came up, but it was a pleasure to meet you gentlemen.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2601189]There are multiple websites for charging overseas phones, and when you enter the number it will even identify the carrier. And paying more than 200 K for a basic smart phone for a Chica is a waste. Most of these chicas don't know the difference from shit and shinola, just being able to Whatsapp is basically all they need versus a killer camera like on the I phone 12, a total waste and something they would never appreciate, especially the wide angle lens on the I phone 12, it's awesome![/QUOTE]She wanted the three camera lenses. She used to do a little professional modeling and she was obsessed with the camera on an iPhone. Particularly the telephoto lens that I believe is unique to the Phone ProMax 12, and as you mentioned the great wide angle lens. And some other photography bells and whistles. I bought her a camera that also happened to be a phone.

Like just about every Colombiana chica I have met she is obsessed with taking and sharing selfies. I would've just bought her a camera, but once you take the selfie of course you must send or upload the selfie. Therefore a phone needs to be attached to the camera. That's what I bought her, a camera that happened to be a phone. I bet there are more than a thousand selfies on her phone now.

Before I bought the iPhone for her I made her take care of a cheap phone for a year to prove she could do it without wrecking a phone. When she handed back the cheap phone to me a year later without a scratch, and no case, I found that very strange, almost impossible to believe. But a deal is a deal and she kept her end of the bargain. She probably kept the cheap phone I bought her in the box for a year, jaja.

Anywho, her iPhone has already gone flying off a moto and the screen is shattered and black. She's getting another cheap phone (she sold the other cheap phone she held for a year, jajaja) because if I don't get her another phone I have no way to reach her. The iPhone goes back into my possession. And I still love her.

She puts up with my mongering behavior and I am sure she fucks around some but not as much as me. And for a brief moment, I made a dream of her lifetime come true and for me that was worth the price of admission. We've known each other for almost four years now, a couple for two years. I've met four generations of her family including her and they treat me like I am one of them. Not sure where it's headed but it has been on helluva ride so far. Let's see how long the moto lasts, jjaja. She and her brother took the moto to her pueblo on top of the mountain today about 3 hours north of Medellin, and it made the trip no problem, caked in mud but it made the trip. The Vulcan engine was a little bigger than the Yamaha, and every cubic centimeter is needed to get up that dirt mountain road. Keep on Keepin' On! What else is there?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2601189]a total waste and something they would never appreciate, especially the wide angle lens on the I phone 12, it's awesome![/QUOTE]Ahhh. Spoken just like a man that has never experienced the 50X scumbag zoom of a Samsung Galaxy Note.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2601192]yes she has what looks like a 5 month baby bump. I thought about going with her several times, and hear she's a good performer, and barebacks as well,[/QUOTE]Hear? Evidently you can see it too!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2601193][URL]eztop.com[/URL] is one of several others. You will get a lower cost if you recharge or pay monthly bills directly on the carriers' web sites. You have to first register a credit card. "Do I have to be in Colombia" is a question that often comes up and the answer is no.[/QUOTE]Mr K do you know anyway to get into a whatapp acct after they deactivate it because the sim is deactivated.

I have several puta burner fones with whatsapp from different countries and I need to get into them, getting the number from the contact list.

And trying from a different active whatsapp acct isn't working.

I'm having issues with Line as well if anyone's a Line expert, ID be willing to pay for a solution on that issue.

Any recommendations for a second hotel or other room to bring girls. Could be as needed, or for the duration.

Like to get recommendations in El Centro, that is at the minimum, Venezuelan friendly, clean and with hot water.

Also, would like something something similar in Laureles.

Haven't partaken Venezuelans, because many of them don't have acceptable ID. I think most secure establishments only accept Cedula Extraña or Unexpired passport with entry stamp. Lot of venies don't have that. So a second location might come in handy, and also, I think is generally safer, as I can keep my stuff in the primary location.

If anyone does this strategy consistently, I would like to hear their thoughts, and how to optimize it.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2601146]You should add money on your phone using [URL]www.etopuponline.com[/URL] every so often.[/QUOTE]Looks like Tigo and Moviestar supported but not Claro. Guess will have to change to one of those next time, thanks for letting me know of the website. Makes it one less thing to do while there.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2601238]Any recommendations for a second hotel or other room to bring girls. Could be as needed, or for the duration.

Like to get recommendations in El Centro, that is at the minimum, Venezuelan friendly, clean and with hot water.

Also, would like something something similar in Laureles.

Haven't partaken Venezuelans, because many of them don't have acceptable ID. I think most secure establishments only accept Cedula Extraa or Unexpired passport with entry stamp. Lot of venies don't have that. So a second location might come in handy, and also, I think is generally safer, as I can keep my stuff in the primary location.

If anyone does this strategy consistently, I would like to hear their thoughts, and how to optimize it.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I can't tell from your question exactly what's going on, it almost sounds like you've got family or legit business in your primary room which means these two rooms must not cross. The reason I say that is because the best set up for mongering in both rooms is two rooms in the same hotel. One in the front, one in the back, different floors, different stairwells. The most common misconception is that you need different hotels and worse, far apart. The closer the better. But if you're at risk of end of marriage or end of job if you get caught then I would not recommend same hotel.

You know there are Love Motels, right? You usually pay for a block of time like 3 hours. I was in one yesterday in Bello. 30 mil COP for 3 hours. I know a great Love Motel within walking distance of El Centro that is clean, safe, secure, hot water, etc. It is caddy-corner off the left front corner of Simon Bolivar Parque but if you need the exact location PM me. There are a lot of short time motels in El Centro itself used by the putas but you should here from the El Centro Rat Gang on those, I'm not up to date on that. I was there today, but did not partake. I saw a short time hotel that is literally the closest one to the front of the Vera Cruz church, if you are facing the church, it's on the left, I can't remember the name but I have never heard it mentioned here, I think it was the "Real"? Anywho, it had more putas hanging out at the entrance and spilling down the stairs than any other hotel I saw there today, albeit it was a Sunday. Do any of you Rats know what hotel I am talking about?

Obvious. I've always said a bad day in Medellin beats most good days in the USA and that held true today. I had to bail out of a car in El Centro with Secret and one of her "amigos" in the front. Supposedly, Secret and I were headed to El Centro to pick up the cutest puta we could find who would me give me a blowjob in a short time motel, while Secret watched. Fun and not too freaky-deaky and since Secret is the most hard-core puta in my bunch, I figured she could relate and might enjoy it, too.

But things started to go sour as soon as we left my hotel. I love metro, especially for going to El Centro because when traffic is bad, it's a lot faster. I love public transport. Some people hate it. Whatever. But it was Sunday, traffic's not bad and, Whut? You've been in my room for half an hour and now you tell me that you have a driver waiting downstairs? That's kinda weird. So I capitulate and tell her I'll let your friend drive us and she promises the ride will cost 20 mil COP and I make it crystal clear all I have is a fifty. So we go down, she gets in the front with him. Okay. He seems nice, but I know just enough Spanish to understand him asking her if I know what he is saying, and he said it in a way like he wanted to hide something. Spidey sense tingling. He's a good driver and takes a great way to El Centro, but with Parque Berrio in sight, Secret turns around and says, "he's going to park the car and come with us. " Whut, whut?" Oh, and at the same time I was trying to pay him with my 50 mil COP note and he said he had no change.

That was the moment when I felt like enough is enough. We were stopped in gridlock, so I simply opened the back door and bailed out. I am not saying my life was in danger or anything terrible was about to happen but I have stayed safe during all my international travels by going by gut instinct and knowing when to bail. I'd rather overreact and be happy and safe and sound. Another thing, I had forgotten my phone so I was feeling a little bare about the plan because I am definitely not fluent in Spanish, yet. And I sure as hell didn't want or need a third wheel dude wingman on a trip to get a blow job with a puta. I wasn't scared, I was fed up. I had a great time working my way back to my hotel, walked to the San Antonio station, past Ground Zero. Bought some reading glasses. Stretched my legs. When I got to my room the message from Secret only confirmed in my mind that I did the right thing. She wrote, "Why did you do that? I was only joking. " Joking? Where's the fucking joke? You tell me. Ostee Out.

P.S. The day ended up great with a visit from Scarlet and a reconnect with Catgirl coming back off the mountain on her new moto. She should be here in about 4 hours Colombian time, so make that 8 hours, jajaja. Secret is out, I am done with her for the rest of this trip. I dunno about when I return.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2600725] One of the girl in NewLife treated me so well that I felt Jealous after another monger waiting outside for her and took her in the room.[/QUOTE]That is awesome stuff and super real.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2601231]Mr K do you know anyway to get into a whatapp acct after they deactivate it because the sim is deactivated.

I have several puta burner fones with whatsapp from different countries and I need to get into them, getting the number from the contact list.

And trying from a different active whatsapp acct isn't working.

I'm having issues with Line as well if anyone's a Line expert, ID be willing to pay for a solution on that issue.[/QUOTE]Whatsapp really goes by the phone and partially by the number. You need the number to activate it, but after that it just goes by the phone. You can put a SIM with a different number in and out of that phone as many times as you want to, but the Whatsapp stays with the original number. It is not deactivated until you either put another SIM in and activate whatsapp with that number, or someone else gets a SIM for that number and they activate it on their phone.

With Line you just have to have your account (screen name and password) and activate it on a particular phone. No phone number is needed.

Of course you will have to have all of your data previously backed up on both platforms to see anything old.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2601238]Any recommendations for a second hotel or other room to bring girls. Could be as needed, or for the duration.

Like to get recommendations in El Centro, that is at the minimum, Venezuelan friendly, clean and with hot water.

Also, would like something something similar in Laureles.

Haven't partaken Venezuelans, because many of them don't have acceptable ID. I think most secure establishments only accept Cedula Extraa or Unexpired passport with entry stamp. Lot of venies don't have that. So a second location might come in handy, and also, I think is generally safer, as I can keep my stuff in the primary location.

If anyone does this strategy consistently, I would like to hear their thoughts, and how to optimize it.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hotel Nutibara El Centro.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2601238]Any recommendations for a second hotel or other room to bring girls. Could be as needed, or for the duration.

Like to get recommendations in El Centro, that is at the minimum, Venezuelan friendly, clean and with hot water.

Also, would like something something similar in Laureles.

Haven't partaken Venezuelans, because many of them don't have acceptable ID. I think most secure establishments only accept Cedula Extraa or Unexpired passport with entry stamp. Lot of venies don't have that. So a second location might come in handy, and also, I think is generally safer, as I can keep my stuff in the primary location.

If anyone does this strategy consistently, I would like to hear their thoughts, and how to optimize it.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]A couple of things to ponder about all the Venezuelans in Centro and ID's. First off, your correct, there are lot's of them there without ID's whether it be Cedulas or a Passport. However this is not a concern for the locals, which have to be I'm guessing over 98% of their clients, and the locals don't fall under USA laws, meaning it being illegal for a USA citizen going with someone under 18 anywhere in the world which your aware of.

When I am in El Centro I see so many young girls working that I will not even get near them, albeit there fair game for the locals which is their client base versus foreigners.

The majority of the love hotels in El Centro do not check ID's. The exception though are the Hotels that are licensed to have foreigners overnight. So as an example, I have a friend here who has not been able to take a Venezuelan without an ID to the Premium Plaza because of their licensing, yet all of the girls working in Centro when they have no ID know of hotels that will let them in without it.

So getting back to what you want to do. Smart move to have a safe and secure primary place to have all your stuff. When you hit El Centro and you find someone you like with no ID, and feel comfortable that she is of legal age, she will be able to direct you where to go, albeit whether there is hot water you will have to ask. There are some real dives you don't want to go into, but all of the girls will know where to go or they wouldn't be out there working.

Another poster sent me a message about how I handle myself in El Centro when girls whether they be Colombians or Vennies don't have an ID. And as I mentioned, if they appear young I pass, albeit there are a lot of guys in El Centro that go with them, as these girls know where to go, but I will not. The mongers that do this, and there are a lot of them doing it down there, are playing with fire.

I have also had girls that have ID's, but appear young, which raises the question whether perhaps it's a phony ID. In this case, I always take them to Premium Plaza because they are very stringent in checking ID's and recording everything, and better at spotting a fake ID than a foreigner.

I hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2601200]You can register over the Internet. You do need a cedula or passport number but you don't have to show it to anybody.[/QUOTE]Good information, but when I bought one of my girls a cheap smart phone a week ago they were unable to register it over the Internet for her, so she had to go in person.

[QUOTE=AjaiGoa;2601196]I was in Centro for couple of hours in the morning did not find any. Have a flight tomorrow evening. Will try my luck for last time I. My life in morning again else I think my fantasy will always remain a fantasy.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2601167]Go to centro tomorrow, theres a tan morena girl about 5'10 5 months pregnant with blondish short hair. She's like 22 and gives great head. She stand in front of the church by the fountain everyday can't miss her. I have fucked her when she wasnt preg last year and again last week. She is much hornier now. Ha[/QUOTE]The Tall Man always enjoys the preggos, just in the past month I have had 3, one Vennie and the other two Colombians, one was at 8 months, another was at 7 months and the 3rd at 4 months (a costena from Barranquilla) and they were all fun and can't wait until they hatch their baby's so I can enjoy milking them which is another delight of mine.

Love the swollen tummies with swollen titties and the best part of all is the swollen and puffy pussy, I can and do spend time just enjoying the beautiful preggo bodies as they lye next to me in bed, sweet mother of jesus this in itself is such a turn on.

Much love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2601390]Whatsapp really goes by the phone and partially by the number. You need the number to activate it, but after that it just goes by the phone. You can put a SIM with a different number in and out of that phone as many times as you want to, but the Whatsapp stays with the original number. It is not deactivated until you either put another SIM in and activate whatsapp with that number, or someone else gets a SIM for that number and they activate it on their phone.

With Line you just have to have your account (screen name and password) and activate it on a particular phone. No phone number is needed.

Of course you will have to have all of your data previously backed up on both platforms to see anything old.[/QUOTE]They ask me to verify the number, but that is not possible, because they are sending a code via sms and the sim is inactive.

With Line I dropped the fone and shattered the screen and can't use it to sign in, the account wasn't backed up with an email address because I didn't know that was even an option or would be necessary.

I emailed them and they told me to "open a new acct".

"With Line you just have to have your account (screen name and password) and activate it on a particular phone. No phone number is needed." this won't work?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2601308]I can't tell from your question exactly what's going on, it almost sounds like you've got family or legit business in your primary room which means these two rooms must not cross. The reason I say that is because the best set up for mongering in both rooms is two rooms in the same hotel. One in the front, one in the back, different floors, different stairwells. The most common misconception is that you need different hotels and worse, far apart. The closer the better. But if you're at risk of end of marriage or end of job if you get caught then I would not recommend same hotel.

You know there are Love Motels, right? You usually pay for a block of time like 3 hours. I was in one yesterday in Bello. 30 mil COP for 3 hours. I know a great Love Motel within walking distance of El Centro that is clean, safe, secure, hot water, etc. It is caddy-corner off the left front corner of Simon Bolivar Parque but if you need the exact location PM me. There are a lot of short time motels in El Centro itself used by the putas but you should here from the El Centro Rat Gang on those, I'm not up to date on that. I was there today, but did not partake. I saw a short time hotel that is literally the closest one to the front of the Vera Cruz church, if you are facing the church, it's on the left, I can't remember the name but I have never heard it mentioned here, I think it was the "Real"? Anywho, it had more putas hanging out at the entrance and spilling down the stairs than any other hotel I saw there today, albeit it was a Sunday. Do any of you Rats know what hotel I am talking about?[/QUOTE]Thanks, good info.

No, it's not because of marriage or job. I just figured, I will have my primary as my safe zone where I can leave stuff safely and don't need to hide it when putas come over. I think two rooms in the same hotel or apartments would be convenient, but only down side is spending the same amount of money for the fuck pad. Yes, I know about the love motels, and have used a few, but they are all over the place. Some just check the girls cedula and they are cool, some didn't want to rent the room once they saw me, as I am a foreigner. Also, some don't let Venezuelans in.

I think the Centro hotel you are talking about is the premier plaza. It's balcony is right off ground zero. Never used it, but it has been talked about here.

Going to be in Medellin from 12th of this month to 26th, hopefully longer.

Is anyone else going to be there during that time. Would be great to meet up with some of you lot and buy you a drink to say thanks for all the great info you provide.

Would be great if someone could show me the mongering scene in El Centro too. Would happily get you a few drinks and a ST with a SW or casa girl in return.

Just wondering about precautions As far as drugging. Would it make sense to tell the security not to let the girl out without confirming with you first,. Or that you will Walk the girls downstairs and if you're not there not to let them go. Is any of that in any way doable?

[QUOTE=Kafka;2601481]Just wondering about precautions As far as drugging. Would it make sense to tell the security not to let the girl out without confirming with you first,. Or that you will Walk the girls downstairs and if you're not there not to let them go. Is any of that in any way doable?[/QUOTE]You might not need to be too paranoid about it. If the girl is coming to your place and there is a portero and they take her cedula and record or copy the document (which is what they do at San Peter and Hotel Dorado) the girl is already aware that there is. Record of her presence and I've never heard of a drugging incident in either of these places.

The majority of the drugging incidents happen at a bar or an apartment without any security presence.

Another possibility if you are overly concerned is Thematic Luxury on Avenida 33 or Thematic Hotel on Calle 51. Those places check ID but when you go to your room they electronically lock the door. In order to get out, you have to call the desk, they check the mini-bar for any charges and then buzz the door open. If the guy doesn't call they won't open until they speak to him.

Has anyone stayed at Hotel Calle Real near the Veracruz church? Thinking about staying there in the near future.

I would suggest asking the hotel if there is a safe in the room. I don't stay in el Centro but I always require one wherever I go. I also bring my laptop with a lock. Girls are checked electronically for their IDs and I get a phone call when they leave from security as a check. Again, I don't stay in el Centro so things could and are different. Also, may sound silly but verify that the safe works. The only time I stayed in el Centro non of the safes worked and that was in a frequently recommended hotel.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2601438]Thanks, good info.

No, it's not because of marriage or job. I just figured, I will have my primary as my safe zone where I can leave stuff safely and don't need to hide it when putas come over. I think two rooms in the same hotel or apartments would be convenient, but only down side is spending the same amount of money for the fuck pad. Yes, I know about the love motels, and have used a few, but they are all over the place. Some just check the girls cedula and they are cool, some didn't want to rent the room once they saw me, as I am a foreigner. Also, some don't let Venezuelans in.

I think the Centro hotel you are talking about is the premier plaza. It's balcony is right off ground zero. Never used it, but it has been talked about here.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2601494]Has anyone stayed at Hotel Calle Real near the Veracruz church? Thinking about staying there in the near future.[/QUOTE]I booked a room during the day; I stayed in another hotel at night. I was wary of roaches and noise; they have basic rooms with TV hot water and bathroom. Very welcoming at the reception. It is also in the middle of our favorite hobby. They allow visitors with a small fee.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2601481]Just wondering about precautions As far as drugging. Would it make sense to tell the security not to let the girl out without confirming with you first,. Or that you will Walk the girls downstairs and if you're not there not to let them go. Is any of that in any way doable?[/QUOTE]It is very likely that the street walkers when you bring them to your room, will drug or rob you and I would suggest, not to offer any drink or food to the girl or do not drink with her despite of staying in secured hotel or Air BNB. When a girl have an intent to rob you, she always have a get away car waiting for her downstairs. The police do not have resources to catch petty thieves despite of you have her cedula information. Naïve mongers often fall in love and becomes a target.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2601484]...Another possibility if you are overly concerned is Thematic Luxury on Avenida 33 or Thematic Hotel on Calle 51. Those places check ID but when you go to your room they electronically lock the door. In order to get out, you have to call the desk, they check the mini-bar for any charges and then buzz the door open. If the guy doesn't call they won't open until they speak to him.[/QUOTE]Are these the short time love motels? If so, one would need to incur additional cost.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2601431]The Tall Man always enjoys the preggos, just in the past month I have had 3, one Vennie and the other two Colombians, one was at 8 months, another was at 7 months and the 3rd at 4 months (a costena from Barranquilla) and they were all fun and can't wait until they hatch their baby's so I can enjoy milking them which is another delight of mine.

Love the swollen tummies with swollen titties and the best part of all is the swollen and puffy pussy, I can and do spend time just enjoying the beautiful preggo bodies as they lye next to me in bed, sweet mother of jesus this in itself is such a turn on.

Much love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]In my experience, the sex drive of a woman while she is pregnant can change in either direction, at random, depending on the chica. I'm not saying it changes back and forth during the pregnancy, I mean it will increase or decrease depending on the girl. Not that it matters terribly when mongering, but some chicas love sex a lot more and some a lot less when pregnant and I've never been able make rhyme or reason out of it.

I knew of one girl who the only time she ever orgasmed in her life was when she was pregnant. And yes, the fat puffy pussy of pregnancy is tighter and softer at the same time, which is a delicious combination. Hormones. And you and I mentioned before, pregnant pussies can be pretty wet. In fact, the all-time by far goopiest pussy I ever encountered was an inner-city 7-8 months pregnant ghetto PYT in Harrisburg, PA. I think I could filled a quart container in about 15 minutes from scraping her inner thighs and from what was coming out of her poontang right after she did her first reveal. Ostee Out.

Great long day in El Centro today with Catgirl, mi Numero Uno Novia. If I have the energy later I will post it, but if it's a choice between banging her and posting, guess what wins. That's her in the track suit we picked up today off a street vendor in El Centro. Top quality. Under $12. I love shopping on the streets in El Centro. There are some great values and I call Colombia the King of the Counterfeiters. I've seen a commercial retail outlet in El Centro that will put any brand monagram you want, Nike, Adidas, Givenchy, Gucci, etc. While you wait on any of the apparels they have for sale in the store. And the stuff looks first rate. Sometimes better than the original. Most of the original luxury labels are being farmed out anyway and Colombia happens to take pride in their knock offs. There is some shit for quality out there, so you have to use discretion. Raybans are a great example. If you find the right vendor, the have counterfeit Rayban sunglasses that are indistinguishable from the original for a tenth or less of the price. Hinges, lenses, monograms, everything. Like I said, there is crap too. I never see the real good stuff near Ground Zero. Those retail blocks that start behind the Nutibara and run parallel to the metro heading towards San Antonio. That's where the good shit is. I bought reading glasses there today two for 10 mil COP that were 12 mil COP for one pair in El Centro, in other words, less than half the price for walking a few city blocks. Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2601570]It is very likely that the street walkers when you bring them to your room, will drug or rob you and I would suggest, not to offer any drink or food to the girl or do not drink with her despite of staying in secured hotel or Air BNB. When a girl have an intent to rob you, she always have a get away car waiting for her downstairs. The police do not have resources to catch petty thieves despite of you have her cedula information. Nave mongers often fall in love and becomes a target.[/QUOTE]No. It's not very likely streetwalkers will drug and rob you when they come to your room. I would say it's extremely unlikely for a streetwalker to do that. Here's why:

Streetwalkers deal with several customers every day, usually working in the same area. Most of their customers are locals, who aren't worth drugging and robbing. Hardly worth using 50 k worth of drugs to steal 60 k.

The people who they have caught who were drugging and robbing people were working on Tinder. If you think about it, it makes sense. Girls working on Tinder are anonymous. They have a chance to choose their targets and make sure they are worth robbing.

While you might want to be wary of the streetwalkers working in Parque Lleras, the typical El Centro streetwalker probably isn't a threat.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2601576]Are these the short time love motels? If so, one would need to incur additional cost.[/QUOTE]Yes they are short term love hotels but the Thematics are very expensive (roughtly 50-60 mil) but very upscale and nice. You would never need to use one if your hotel or apartment rental has a portero that takes a girls cedula and takes a picture or records the information. That lets the girl know that she won't get away with drugging the guy or something like that. I specifically threw these love-hotels out as an option if a guy is staying in a place that doesn't have security.

I would like the ask this forum of men a question of etiquette. About how good or bad it would be perceived by the "friend" being asked about another girl, and the likelihood of success.

Recently I watched a video of a man walking up and down and around Veracruz and Plaza Botero. In a few videos of his, there has been a very curvaceous, voluptuous black woman. Caught my eye and I figured during my upcoming trip, that's a woman I would like to see with my own eyes and very, very likely bang her. In the passed couple months, he passed that way and it was 50/50 that the black woman was there, so my guess is that's kinda her spot.

On one, and only one, video there was another woman -- my guess is Colombian based on completion, hair, and facial features -- that was hands down stunning. They seemed to be acquaintances, minimum but also a guess. Never seen the Latina on a video before or after, but he hasn't traveled that way path again either since that one time.

I understand there is some disdain for these guys filming SWs. They turn away from the camera when they see guys like that. Or, I heard, they give him some grief. So, flashing a picture would be received in what way? So, Question 1 is if the black woman is there, I definitely want to give her a try; give her business and enjoy my time. However, if I screenshot a moment in the video that does well to show the Latina and ask if she knows the Latina, and can arrange a meeting. How would that be perceived? Bad? Ok? Maybe not welcomed, but. Acceptable? Done with enthusiasm and she'll make coffee while she makes calls?

Question 2 closely relates. Assuming they are friends, maybe just professional peers, would one SW help send business to another SW? What's that chance of there being a referral? Like, from 0 being hollered at and run off to 5 with her being totally cool with it.

Guess who had a little spare time tonight? Had a great plan that I believed in after feedback from this board last night. Big man. Take back the iPhone. Buy her a cheap burner phone. Show her who's boss. Yeah.

She comes early, super early for a Colombiana, 9 AM. Puts her lips on my dick before I ever get out of bed. Spreads her pussy open in a couple of different positions. Does that thang that she does better than all the others. Gets inside my head.

We get high afterwards. Go to El Centro. I buy her a nice new mid-range Huawei cellular. I repair her iPhone ProMax12. Buy her a nice shoulder bag so the phone doesn't go flying off her moto again. An iPhone watch, a track suit, the accessories to go with the two new cell phones. Fill her moto up with gas and pay to have it detailed and cleaned.

At the end of the day I provide her with her own little stash of the pink shit. She goes home, saying she will return for pizza but then calls and says she is too high to drive the moto back. The shit was strong, strongest I've seen this trip and I warned her a few times. She has to meet a repairman in the morning at her apartment where I paid the rent this month. Is she fuckin' a chico tonight? Possible but not probable.

I told her that when she left I knew she would not be back. She writes I love it when you are like this. She sends me a video of her karaokeing a Colombian love song that is sexy as hell.

She has got me right where she wants me, and I am a willing participant. Power of the pussy rules all. She gets screwed back a little. Since she ain't spending the night, I am meeting Soft Swirl at that same Bello Love Motel in the morning. I am getting to be a regular there. And I know a few other chicas up that way who just might want to swing by, jeje. Catgirl and I are muy en sympatico. A good match. We both love sex, know how to manipulate people, are good at what we do and respect the talent of the other. And we are both great liars. Ostee out.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2601591]No. It's not very likely streetwalkers will drug and rob you when they come to your room. I would say it's extremely unlikely for a streetwalker to do that. Here's why:

Streetwalkers deal with several customers every day, usually working in the same area. Most of their customers are locals, who aren't worth drugging and robbing. Hardly worth using 50 k worth of drugs to steal 60 k.

The people who they have caught who were drugging and robbing people were working on Tinder. If you think about it, it makes sense. Girls working on Tinder are anonymous. They have a chance to choose their targets and make sure they are worth robbing.

While you might want to be wary of the streetwalkers working in Parque Lleras, the typical El Centro streetwalker probably isn't a threat.[/QUOTE]These girls do not think logically, thy just act on impulse, having sex with one she yells out in the middle of the f* mas plata paga mas", that their way of being, and on drugs. Never again I bring home or to a hotel or motel such a creature. Better to help people with in other ways. My female friends paisas helps me a lot since I'm so whimsical with practical issues. And they are poor and are students and children, its better to help friends or how you wish, not only prepagos that on drugs are heartless and it get worse, in the elevator, 2 girls entered and they were so pretty, my 2 sheap prepagos, they seemed so ugly, so I payed them and send them away and felt, Never again bring home such girls, my neighbors must never see me with such people.

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2601610]Question 2 closely relates. Assuming they are friends, maybe just professional peers, would one SW help send business to another SW? What's that chance of there being a referral? Like, from 0 being hollered at and run off to 5 with her being totally cool with it.[/QUOTE]A four if you tip her 50 mil COP. One of the overriding principles that I find helpful to keep in my mind with the girls here, everything has a price, or you can get anything you want for the right price. Happy mongering and Keep On Keepin' On!

I flew into Medellin from Guadalajara hoping to have at least a decent experience with the SA girls in this city and enjoy some nice restaurants, as well as some nice weather.

First, my 2 favorite restaurants in Parque Lleras no longer exist! Al Rojo and Baslica are 2 shelled buildings with empty spaces. I have gone to a couple of cool restaurants, Oci.mde and Botanico. The vibe there was pretty good and the food was great. I also have gone to a Korean restaurant, 678 Korean Barbecue, which was average. Their selection of banshan was pretty limited, unlike what you would expect in the US, plus they only give 3 per selection of meat. Another good restaurant that I would recommend is the Mexican restaurant in the new Amsterdam Plaza called La Santa Guadalupe. They are open fairly late compared to the rest of the restaurants near Tesoro Mall.

The hotel I am staying in is the LaQuinta Hotel, which is girl friendly and inexpensive at about $50 a night. Their pool is open, along with the gym. They also include a free breakfast buffet in the bill. It is located in Las Palmas, so if you are into going to Fase Dos or Las Isla, it is a good location. A Carulla is about a couple of blocks away if you need wine and other groceries for the girls, if you are interested in entertaining them as part of your meet and greet. Also there is a decently priced Peruvian restaurant next to the building, along with a Smart Fit that charges about $18 a month. With regards to the weather, it has been awful, with rain on a daily basis. An Uber driver told me that winter usually begins around this time of year. Well coming from Guadalajara, I was hoping it would be sunnier but it has not been the case.

The Seeking girls in Medellin are way cheaper than Guadalajara! The most I have paid is $100. They have ranged from $65 to $100. Most have gone to my room with no problem. There were 2 who broke off the dates, a 19 year old brand new member and another that I had met a year ago. One girl, who goes by Herliana, is bilingual and is a squirter. She asked for $92 per date and ours have lasted for a couple of hours both times. Only 2 girls have provided BBBJ, a 19 year old girl who goes by Ana Sofia and one who goes by Dulcem, who has been the most expensive so far at $100. I have 2 more dates lined up today, so hopefully that amount will increase.

So in terms of price Medellin beats Guadalajara by a mile. However, I have not yet met a Colombian who is as kinky as the Mexican girls that I met in Guadalajara. So in terms of service, I give more kudos to Mexican women. They are definitely more caliente than their fellow Latinas. Hopefully I will find one like them here in Medellin before I go back to Guadalajara.

[QUOTE=SunDevil;2601808]The Seeking girls in Medellin are way cheaper than Guadalajara! The most I have paid is $100.[/QUOTE]Important to remember that just because you pay less in one place than another, does not mean you are getting a deal or even a fair price in the place that you paid less.

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2601610]Recently I watched a video of a man walking up and down and around Veracruz and Plaza Botero. In a few videos of his, there has been a very curvaceous, voluptuous black woman.

I understand there is some disdain for these guys filming SWs. They turn away from the camera when they see guys like that. Or, I heard, they give him some grief. So, flashing a picture would be received in what way? However, if I screenshot a moment in the video that does well to show the Latina and ask if she knows the Latina, and can arrange a meeting. How would that be perceived? [/QUOTE]Good that you came and asked first. Seems you are not aware that the dude is walking around with a hidden spy camera, probably in his glasses or hat. He is not just walking around explicity making videos with a normal camera or phone. If you go around flashing pictures, it will be assumed you were the one that made the secret pictures and you are liable to end up in a hospital suffering from a well beat ass.

I suggest walking around the area to see what is there available at the moment and leave the fantasies of what you saw on your computer screen back at your house where there are not thousands of available women to choose from.

[QUOTE=AmoMedellin;2601786], not only prepagos that on drugs are heartless and it get worse, in the elevator, 2 girls entered and they were so pretty, my 2 sheap prepagos, they seemed so ugly, so I payed them and send them away and felt, Never again bring home such girls, my neighbors must never see me with such people.[/QUOTE]LOL. Everyone does not think or see the same. The chick that you saw as drugged out, another monger may perceive that he is flossing with a beauty queen in front of his neighbors.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2601828]Good that you came and asked first. Seems you are not aware that the dude is walking around with a hidden spy camera, probably in his glasses or hat. He is not just walking around explicity making videos with a normal camera or phone. If you go around flashing pictures, it will be assumed you were the one that made the secret pictures and you are liable to end up in a hospital suffering from a well beat ass.

I suggest walking around the area to see what is there available at the moment and leave the fantasies of what you saw on your computer screen back at your house where there are not thousands of available women to choose from.[/QUOTE]Since you were not there, you do not know for certain. Your explanation is a possibility. I have seen people walking around making videos with their phones and even a camera in El Centro.

Wingman just sent me this post from fakebook:

This woman stole my phone from my apartment. She is on video rushing ahead of my other guests and down the stairs to get out before us while I was trying to get them an Uber with my other phone, and giving them the left over pizza. She told the portero that she had a sick family member, and was allowed to leave before I got to the main floor with the others. This post will be taken down if the phone is returned or it will be left up for good to warn others about her.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2601839]Since you were not there, you do not know for certain. Your explanation is a possibility. I have seen people walking around making videos with their phones and even a camera in El Centro.[/QUOTE]I've seen both types of videos. Ones openly on gimbles, usually in Llares Park; and ones bouncy and hidden in jackets or a shirt somehow are in and around Veracruz. The direct example I gave was the hidden type. Therefore, I'd be concerned that showing a SW a picture of herself and a colleague would come off like I was a blackmailing detective and would send creepy vibes.

My thoughts are a blend of both opinions. If the sexy black girl is there with no sign of sexy Latina, I'll chat her up, partake in her services AND buy the info from her. Win win win. The only way I'd use the picture is if she is trying to help, but doesn't know whom I am talking about. The screenshot would be used only if there's some doubt and I need some reference. That's what I can think of as a plan.

If it fails, I'll have to compensate by having sex with numerous other sexy girls.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2601879]Wingman just sent me this post from fakebook:

This woman stole my phone from my apartment.[/QUOTE]So sorry this happened to you. Thanks for sharing, I hope you get it back.

[QUOTE=SunDevil;2601808]I flew into Medellin from Guadalajara hoping to have at least a decent experience with the SA girls in this city and enjoy some nice restaurants, as well as some nice weather.

First, my 2 favorite restaurants in Parque Lleras no longer exist! Al Rojo and Baslica are 2 shelled buildings with empty spaces. I have gone to a couple of cool restaurants, Oci.mde and Botanico. The vibe there was pretty good and the food was great. I also have gone to a Korean restaurant, 678 Korean Barbecue, which was average. Their selection of banshan was pretty limited, unlike what you would expect in the US, plus they only give 3 per selection of meat. Another good restaurant that I would recommend is the Mexican restaurant in the new Amsterdam Plaza called La Santa Guadalupe. They are open fairly late compared to the rest of the restaurants near Tesoro Mall.

The hotel I am staying in is the LaQuinta Hotel, which is girl friendly and inexpensive at about $50 a night. Their pool is open, along with the gym. They also include a free breakfast buffet in the bill. It is located in Las Palmas, so if you are into going to Fase Dos or Las Isla, it is a good location. A Carulla is about a couple of blocks away if you need wine and other groceries for the girls, if you are interested in entertaining them as part of your meet and greet. Also there is a decently priced Peruvian restaurant next to the building, along with a Smart Fit that charges about $18 a month. With regards to the weather, it has been awful, with rain on a daily basis. An Uber driver told me that winter usually begins around this time of year. Well coming from Guadalajara, I was hoping it would be sunnier but it has not been the case.

The Seeking girls in Medellin are way cheaper than Guadalajara! The most I have paid is $100. They have ranged from $65 to $100. Most have gone to my room with no problem. There were 2 who broke off the dates, a 19 year old brand new member and another that I had met a year ago. One girl, who goes by Herliana, is bilingual and is a squirter. She asked for $92 per date and ours have lasted for a couple of hours both times. Only 2 girls have provided BBBJ, a 19 year old girl who goes by Ana Sofia and one who goes by Dulcem, who has been the most expensive so far at $100. I have 2 more dates lined up today, so hopefully that amount will increase.

So in terms of price Medellin beats Guadalajara by a mile. However, I have not yet met a Colombian who is as kinky as the Mexican girls that I met in Guadalajara. So in terms of service, I give more kudos to Mexican women. They are definitely more caliente than their fellow Latinas. Hopefully I will find one like them here in Medellin before I go back to Guadalajara.[/QUOTE]How much were you paying in Guadalajara?

[QUOTE=Conick2000;2601953]How much were you paying in Guadalajara?[/QUOTE]I was paying the equivalent of $125 to $200 in Mexican pesos. One girl asked for $250 and she wouldn't budged from that when I countered with $200. Medellin is so ridiculously inexpensive in comparison. I had a 19 year old girl this afternoon who provided Bbbj and FS for $65!

Flying in tomorrow have so much fb snatch lined up I'm going to need three ducks. How do you get them down to 150 mil. I keep getting 200 k. Can't to get some cheap in el centro. Got to reward some that have rose with me for two years LOL. I got some non pros wondering when they ask for money. I'm just going to give them 150 for Gp.

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2601906]I've seen both types of videos. Ones openly on gimbles, usually in Llares Park; and ones bouncy and hidden in jackets or a shirt somehow are in and around Veracruz. The direct example I gave was the hidden type. Therefore, I'd be concerned that showing a SW a picture of herself and a colleague would come off like I was a blackmailing detective and would send creepy vibes.

My thoughts are a blend of both opinions. If the sexy black girl is there with no sign of sexy Latina, I'll chat her up, partake in her services AND buy the info from her. Win win win. The only way I'd use the picture is if she is trying to help, but doesn't know whom I am talking about. The screenshot would be used only if there's some doubt and I need some reference. That's what I can think of as a plan.

If it fails, I'll have to compensate by having sex with numerous other sexy girls.[/QUOTE]But technically Mr. Enternational was more correct than I because you and he were thinking of hidden cameras, and I was thinking of gimbles.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2601988]Flying in tomorrow have so much fb snatch lined up I'm going to need three ducks. How do you get them down to 150 mil. I keep getting 200 k. Can't to get some cheap in el centro. Got to reward some that have rose with me for two years LOL. I got some non pros wondering when they ask for money. I'm just going to give them 150 for Gp.[/QUOTE]Your post is garbled. Hard to understand. But if you are saying that you agree to 200 and then are planning to pay 150 mil COP. Watch out. There are a ton of reasons why you shouldn't do that but they would be wasted on the type of person who would do that, so I'll save my breath. Let's put it this way, think of your own personal safety. All these girls know someone who will walk up to you and stick and shiv between your ribs that could prove to be fatal for doing something like that. If I misread you, because your post is incomprehensible, then carry on my wayward son, there will be peace when you are done. Kansas.

Does anyone know anywhere in Medellin, preferably in El Poblado where I can get a full panel blood health check up done and also a physio who speaks English? Having trouble with my shoulder / trap when doing any kind of incline pushes.

I will back this Saturday afternoon and was wondering if anyone knows if the asiha spa is under a new name? It was the place a few blocks from San Peter off la 70. If it isn't around, can someone recommend a place close by? I have one of my regulars come see me that night but I wouldn't mind getting warmed up a bit mid afternoon. Thanks.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2602047]Does anyone know anywhere in Medellin, preferably in El Poblado where I can get a full panel blood health check up done and also a physio who speaks English? Having trouble with my shoulder / trap when doing any kind of incline pushes.[/QUOTE]Since I live in Laureles I don't know much about Poblado, but figured I'd send you both my recs in case you wanted to hit 'them.

I get all my blood work done here at Unilab: [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/BRpFbJnyybyYP8mL6[/URL].

But I'm sure there are spots closer to you that would do the same thing. Search laboratorio or lab in google maps and you'll get a bunch of hits probably closer to you.

Have gone to this physio before - [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/127ra4bWhLJXnzYG8[/URL].

They have a great doctor there who speaks English pretty well.

You try taking some time off incline pressing? Or switching from barbell to DB? I've done a lot of PT in the past for shoulder stuff and now press from the floor with dumbbells with a lot less pain. Maybe worth a shot.

3 K.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2602119]I will back this Saturday afternoon and was wondering if anyone knows if the asiha spa is under a new name? It was the place a few blocks from San Peter off la 70. If it isn't around, can someone recommend a place close by? I have one of my regulars come see me that night but I wouldn't mind getting warmed up a bit mid afternoon. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Reached out to 'them but haven't heard back. Think temporarily closed. Energy Spa, Eros, and Tantra are all in that general area in Laureles.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2601988]Flying in tomorrow have so much fb snatch lined up I'm going to need three ducks. How do you get them down to 150 mil. I keep getting 200 k. Can't to get some cheap in el centro. Got to reward some that have rose with me for two years LOL. I got some non pros wondering when they ask for money. I'm just going to give them 150 for Gp.[/QUOTE]As Osteo said, if you agree to 200 mil, don't change the deal on them. That's a mean (and dangerous) thing to do. The only time you could do something like that is if she shows up with a smelly pussy infection or full-blown period (in which case you would be justified sending her away and giving her significantly less).

FWIW if you're talking with Facebook girls that have worked the Gringo circuit for a while, 200 mil is pretty standard these days. Maybe 150 k + taxi.

If you want to find less expensive, you need to somehow connect with ones that haven't been popular with us Gringos for too long. Once they meet too many foreigners, their rates go up. And frequently their quality of service goes down.

You definitely deserve to get the crap beat out of you for pulling a stupid stunt like that. Her boyfriend or amigos will be looking for you. I would point you out to them for such a scum bag move.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2601988]Flying in tomorrow have so much fb snatch lined up I'm going to
need three ducks. How do you get them down to 150 mil. I keep getting 200 k. Can't to get some cheap in el centro. Got to reward some that have rose with me for two years LOL. I got some non pros wondering when they ask for money. I'm just going to give them 150 for Gp.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Combo;2602160]As Osteo said, if you agree to 200 mil, don't change the deal on them. That's a mean (and dangerous) thing to do. The only time you could do something like that is if she shows up with a smelly pussy infection or full-blown period (in which case you would be justified sending her away and giving her significantly less).

FWIW if you're talking with Facebook girls that have worked the Gringo circuit for a while, 200 mil is pretty standard these days. Maybe 150 k + taxi.

If you want to find less expensive, you need to somehow connect with ones that haven't been popular with us Gringos for too long. Once they meet too many foreigners, their rates go up. And frequently their quality of service goes down.[/QUOTE]I was going to say this before, too. If a lousy $13 USD or 50 mil COP is the difference between you being with a chica or not, then don't come. I am not being insensitive to guys on a budget, but do not hold theses chicas' feets to the fire over such a paltry amount. If that is how you are thinking, then you are not ready to be here, plain and simple. You will create bad karma for yourself at the very least, and at the most end up dead. These are some of the most loving people I have ever encountered in the world. But if you give them reason to step on the wrong side, the dark side, your life here is not worth a plug nickel. I am not kidding you. There are teenagers here who will roll up on you on the back of a moto, pull out a 35 calibre revolver, and put one in the base of your skull with as much thought as you or I would take the garbage out to the curb. The good news is, you will feel no pain, and you won't remember a thing. You will simply no longer exist. I am not kidding. If you can't afford the difference of 50 mil COP for an encounter like that, stay home and save some more pennies, drink less Starbucks, cut down on the cigarettes, drink six beers instead of twelve every night, or become an El Centro Rat and just get it on for 30-50 mil per encounter, plus hotel, lube, incidentals, jajaja. There is nothing wrong with that and I admire those guys. Ostee Out!

I think you missed understood my post on my exuberance did make a sound kind of bad. What I was saying is sometimes the girls act like they don't want money I'm just wondering when she's going to bring it up I didn't say I wouldn't give her money who does that that's disrespectful. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2602174]I think you missed understood my post on my exuberance did make a sound kind of bad. What I was saying is sometimes the girls act like they don't want money I'm just wondering when she's going to bring it up I didn't say I wouldn't give her money who does that that's disrespectful. Sorry for the misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]If that was truly your exuberance then I am truly happy for you. And I guess you proved three minds don't make a right, jajaja. Personally, I like to have the price clearly stated before I get started with a new girl. Specify whether you are including taxi or not in the final amount. I don't predict the amount of tip, but tell her she will get a tip as long as I am happy. Sometimes I add I am easy to please. As long as nothing goes wrong, I tip, starting at 20 mil COP, usually 50 mil COP if I really was happy, and up. But that's just me and a personal decision and not necessary a recommendation. Happy Mongering!

Gratuitous photos from this trip.

$65 to $100 USD? Yikes, that a lot of money. 250 mil to 380 mil. I hope that's for several hours and some great fucking.

[QUOTE=SunDevil;2601808]

The Seeking girls in Medellin are way cheaper than Guadalajara! The most I have paid is $100. They have ranged from $65 to $100. Most have gone to my room with no problem. There were 2 who broke off the dates, a 19 year old brand new member and another that I had met a year ago. One girl, who goes by Herliana, is bilingual and is a squirter. She asked for $92 per date and ours have lasted for a couple of hours both times. Only 2 girls have provided BBBJ, a 19 year old girl who goes by Ana Sofia and one who goes by Dulcem, who has been the most expensive so far at $100. I have 2 more dates lined up today, so hopefully that amount will increase.

S.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2602205]$65 to $100 USD? Yikes, that a lot of money. 250 mil to 380 mil. I hope that's for several hours and some great fucking.[/QUOTE]A lot of money? Sounds about right to me. Lleras girls are asking 200-300 mil for 1 hour /1 pop of all covered service and most of them won't budge. SA girls provide way better service, they are usually low volume and don't watch the clock. Multiple hour date with SA girl is usually cheaper on both per hour and per fuck basis.

I read some of your stories and I be like ain't nobody that fine in el centro. Met a white looking vinnie with nicest ass in el centro. She short. Paid that 50 for that fine booty. I was holding the lw go for my dime piece wants 350 bow (it's getting crazy out there) got three more trying to slide through but just 200 pesos. Took her number will have her come to the aprtment hock was hot.

[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2600011]Get a proxy. Problem solved. I have been working "remote" in different countries for 10+ years and have a full paid proxy subscription so all my traffic (phone included) route back through the US.[/QUOTE]When you route your phone through a proxy in the USA, does it ring with an American ringback?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2602217]A lot of money? Sounds about right to me. Lleras girls are asking 200-300 mil for 1 hour /1 pop of all covered service and most of them won't budge. SA girls provide way better service, they are usually low volume and don't watch the clock. Multiple hour date with SA girl is usually cheaper on both per hour and per fuck basis.[/QUOTE]Where are these girls asking for 200-300 mil in Lleras? I've been looking on websites like mileroticos and propedos. The range is usually 80-200 mil whether they are VIP or not. These sound like some expensive Cartagena prices. I get the 150 mil+50 mil for taxi, but I can't wrap my head around 250+ as a base price based on what I've been reading in this forum.

I'm not saying I can't pay that or that I have a budget, just why when there's other options just as good, if not better, at a lower price? Or maybe I'm wrong and my reasoning is flawed somewhere?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2602217]A lot of money? Sounds about right to me. Lleras girls are asking 200-300 mil for 1 hour /1 pop of all covered service and most of them won't budge. SA girls provide way better service, they are usually low volume and don't watch the clock. Multiple hour date with SA girl is usually cheaper on both per hour and per fuck basis.[/QUOTE]First disclaimer, anyone can pay what they want. I believe that.

That being said this is a board people come for mongering intel. So it's important to be as accurate as possible.

First of all why does anyone discuss prices in $US in Colombia? The currency of legal tender is pesos. It's straight up naive to be discussing anything in $US. Let's just say it can cause other risks on top of inflating the price for you. For the low volume SA believers, I will use the same Ana Sofia cited as an example. If it's the same Ana Sofia on SA I am thinking, she is on FB as Lisdey Santillana and one or two other aliases. $100 was what Sundevil paid. On FB she charged 200 mil early 2020. On SA she quoted me 250 mil after some chit chat a few weeks ago. Herliana I took to dinner in provenza, afterwards she swore up and down she is not a puta and then gave me a price 400mil. Jajaja. Having sessioned earlier that day and with one of my regulars coming for breakfast, I was not feeling it and I passed. Even so I will not say SA is a puta site.

The truth is there are all sorts on there. Putas, sugar babies, girls looking to make a little quick money on the side, and even believe it or not some looking for a serious relationship. That is the reason you get all these differing opinions. They are all partly true. I personally concluded ironically SA is like Centro. There is the occasional diamond in the rough to be had, but you need to weed out a lot including scammers to get to that, especially if you are picky like me. But if you land the jackpot, looks, attitude, performance and $ expectations, it can feel very worthwhile. Having searched on it 3 separate months when I had some time, and trimmed my list down, I did not find a single one that met all these criteria together. My yardstick being a few trusty FB girls who I session with every time I am there. So each person will find their style in Medellin after some trial and error and a few trips or atleast one long trip. There is just no other way to figure it out sitting stateside. What you can do is gather intel to plan your trip safely and experiment with these options. Even finding the right airbnb or hotel can be a learning experience.
It's however truly the most versatile place you can find. Heck some mongers have reported picking girls up in malls and other such random places and I wouldn't doubt it as paisas are some of the most friendly and open minded people you can come across. If you are young, have good looks and know Spanish well and can dance, and not here for just a few days then frankly you should be able to pick up girls here.

I decided to partake into a non SA endeavor for old times sake and went to Loutron. The facility is still in the same spotless location. The cost was 330 mil and I chose a girl named Rebecca. The same women who worked manning the cash register are still there. They did not recognize me after about a 2 year long hiatus, plus me wearing a mask did not help.

After the massage and perfunctory performance, I have realized why I keep sticking to SA girls. The Loutron girl would not allow any kissing nor digits in her vagina. How is she supposed to feel her G spot without that? Also during oral, which was covered as usual, she kept examining whether I climaxed or not. After she rode me for a couple of minutes, she hopped off and examined the rubber and declared that I had indeed finished. I was not in the mood to argue, plus I have already seen about 5 SA girls this week, and this encounter was a total turn off and I did not get want to rescue it. I took a shower and got dressed.

There was no small talk involved as well, which I enjoyed with SA girls and the escorts from Montreal and Toronto, who also provide kissing and CIM, as part of their services. I had mainly gone to Canada as part of my mongering adventures during the past couple of years. The services provided in that country by professionals have spoiled me. So no more massage girls for this monger here in Medellin.

[QUOTE=SunDevil;2602277]no more massage girls for this monger here in Medellin.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. Loutron is an OK change of pace spot but the service is super mechanical and unremarkable. I had the exact same experience when I was there last week. The location is very nice, and the lineup is above average. I've certainly gotten a lot less for $86, however, you're better off using Tinder, SA, Facebook to get the most bang for your peso.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2602263]First disclaimer, anyone can pay what they want. I believe that.

That being said this is a board people come for mongering intel. So it's important to be as accurate as possible.

First of all why does anyone discuss prices in $US in Colombia? The currency of legal tender is pesos. It's straight up naive to be discussing anything in $US. Let's just say it can cause other risks on top of inflating the price for you. For the low volume SA believers, I will use the same Ana Sofia cited as an example. If it's the same Ana Sofia on SA I am thinking, she is on FB as Lisdey Santillana and one or two other aliases. $100 was what Sundevil paid. On FB she charged 200 mil early 2020. On SA she quoted me 250 mil after some chit chat a few weeks ago. Herliana I took to dinner in provenza, afterwards she swore up and down she is not a puta and then gave me a price 400mil. Jajaja. Having sessioned earlier that day and with one of my regulars coming for breakfast, I was not feeling it and I passed. Even so I will not say SA is a puta site. [/QUOTE]Medellin is the cornucopia, it's got everything for anybody. You can create the model you want here. That's exactly what I did. It works for me but possibly not for you. You can be creative or you can be rigid. Whatever works for you. My gawd tonight Scarlet brought another new friend and it was transcendent in the purest form of the word. It's up to you. Decide your own path. My computer crashed and maybe burned, I am texting (sexting?) this on my cell if it sounds wonky, jajaja. I will even try to post a pic, this is hard! Obvio I love you guys, geez. I hope I didn't put words in your mouth Gene. Try doing this on a Samsung A-50 sometime and get back to me, jajaja.

[QUOTE=Regnom3000;2602145]Since I live in Laureles I don't know much about Poblado, but figured I'd send you both my recs in case you wanted to hit 'them.

I get all my blood work done here at Unilab: [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/BRpFbJnyybyYP8mL6[/URL].

But I'm sure there are spots closer to you that would do the same thing. Search laboratorio or lab in google maps and you'll get a bunch of hits probably closer to you.

Have gone to this physio before - [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/127ra4bWhLJXnzYG8[/URL].

They have a great doctor there who speaks English pretty well.

You try taking some time off incline pressing? Or switching from barbell to DB? I've done a lot of PT in the past for shoulder stuff and now press from the floor with dumbbells with a lot less pain. Maybe worth a shot.

3 K.[/QUOTE]That's brilliant, thank you, really appreciate it.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2602119]I will back this Saturday afternoon and was wondering if anyone knows if the asiha spa is under a new name? It was the place a few blocks from San Peter off la 70. If it isn't around, can someone recommend a place close by? I have one of my regulars come see me that night but I wouldn't mind getting warmed up a bit mid afternoon. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hotel Dorado La 70.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2602203]If that was truly your exuberance then I am truly happy for you. And I guess you proved three minds don't make a right, jajaja. Personally, I like to have the price clearly stated before I get started with a new girl. Specify whether you are including taxi or not in the final amount. I don't predict the amount of tip, but tell her she will get a tip as long as I am happy. Sometimes I add I am easy to please. As long as nothing goes wrong, I tip, starting at 20 mil COP, usually 50 mil COP if I really was happy, and up. But that's just me and a personal decision and not necessary a recommendation. Happy Mongering!

Gratuitous photos from this trip.[/QUOTE]The waitress in the fries place under my building is cute. She knows a American tourists gettin prepago I assume. If I get her to let me take her out, we sleep together, will she ask cash. I don't want to disrespect her. How do you talk the non pros.

If she's really a nonpro, she either won't ask or will frame it toward "helping her" with her bills. If a girl is clearly not a prepago, then I don't talk money (so they don't feel I'm trying to imply they are a prepago). Rather, I will give them some cash after we have been together and tell them it is to help her with "her things" or "her bills. " All of that said, I've had girls who expect and want nothing at all. For me, I like to give them something (especially if I don't plan to see them again), so I don't feel like I'm giving them the wrong impression.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2602411]The waitress in the fries place under my building is cute. She knows a American tourists gettin prepago I assume. If I get her to let me take her out, we sleep together, will she ask cash. I don't want to disrespect her. How do you talk the non pros.[/QUOTE]

You take me for someone who would pay Lleras or Gusto's prices? Jajajajajaj.

You can find plenty of good talent who give great service at less than 200-300 mil. And I'm not talking about casa or centro girls either. If you think what you are paying the SA girls is a good deal, good for you. But you can find low volume, good GFE service girls who are not clock watchers outside of SA and pay less.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2602217]A lot of money? Sounds about right to me. Lleras girls are asking 200-300 mil for 1 hour /1 pop of all covered service and most of them won't budge. SA girls provide way better service, they are usually low volume and don't watch the clock. Multiple hour date with SA girl is usually cheaper on both per hour and per fuck basis.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2602425]All of that said, I've had girls who expect and want nothing at all. For me, I like to give them something (especially if I don't plan to see them again), so I don't feel like I'm giving them the wrong impression.[/QUOTE]So that helps you not feel guilty while helping them feel like you saw them as a hooker? I would feel guilty by treating a chick I knew not to be a hooker like that.

[QUOTE=Bruno562;2602315] I totally agree. Loutron is an OK change of pace spot but the service is super mechanical and unremarkable. [/QUOTE]That's Colombia generally, "put on a condom, don't kiss me or mess up my hair, and leche baby. " Most of the discussions here involve finding experiences outside these norms.

[QUOTE=Bruno562;2602315] the exact same experience when I was there last week. The location is very nice, and the lineup is above average. I've certainly gotten a lot less for $86, [/QUOTE]Yea you can certainly waste more money in the states, but a blow up doll with a pulse and snippy attitude is always a waste of money.

[QUOTE=Bruno562;2602315] However, you're better off using Tinder, SA, Facebook to get the most bang for your peso. [/QUOTE]Careful with Tinder, is where a lot of the drugging are coming from. Facebook can be good, especially if go with the second and third string. The flaking out from the hotter girls is widespread.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2602425]If she's really a nonpro, she either won't ask or will frame it toward "helping her" with her bills. If a girl is clearly not a prepago, then I don't talk money (so they don't feel I'm trying to imply they are a prepago). Rather, I will give them some cash after we have been together and tell them it is to help her with "her things" or "her bills. " All of that said, I've had girls who expect and want nothing at all. For me, I like to give them something (especially if I don't plan to see them again), so I don't feel like I'm giving them the wrong impression.[/QUOTE]Your answer came right on time. A girl I saw two years ago medellin just hit me up and she wants to see me. Now we talk all the time every since I left. So I didn't know how it would be this time. So I asked her would it be for business or pleasure. I explained that Business will be pay her and she go or we do Novia things like eat dinner and hang out. She said that she understood how it was last time and that she wasn't going to ask me for the cash but I know that she needs things here in Columbia. And I read what you said and I gave Heard the answer that yes I'm not paying you I just want to give you money so you can have nice things.

[QUOTE=Shamester;2602404]Hotel Dorado La 70.[/QUOTE]Can you elaborate on this? Like girls at the hotel bar are prepagos? Or this spot also has spa services? Curioso.

Leraldin just came through, with the famous tattoo. Nice and tight!! Nice girl give her a FB call. She ic suede toy taking a thousand after bang photos. While it's cool to see them in your room in the pictures for nostalgia later. What's up with that LOL. She took 15 in my phone and 20 in hers. I wonder if she is trying to get discovered.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2602411]The waitress in the fries place under my building is cute. She knows a American tourists gettin prepago I assume. If I get her to let me take her out, we sleep together, will she ask cash. I don't want to disrespect her. How do you talk the non pros.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if any one guy can answer that for any other guy. You hit the nail on the head if you focus on respect, every girl wants to feel respected even the putas. You have to go by what's in your heart, your gut and be in the moment. I agree it can be tough in Colombia because you may risk insulting her if you offer her money after or for sex but forget about preconceived notions of money and sex from the United States. For a lot of women here and I'm not talking about prepagos, money equals love. That doesn't mean it has to be a lot of money it just has to be proportional to what you can give. They think if you love them you will share with them. Not automatically but the culture is there. Before I've had sex with a regular girl here I have said, "Obviously you're not a puta but I would love to help you with a gift." Gawd, when I see it written down it looks horrible. I admitted I did it I didn't say it was good, jaja. If at some point you feel like you want to give her some money and she doesn't speak English and you don't speak Spanish just take whatever you want to give her a maybe a hundred and fifty could be more could be less, palm it into her hand gently and repeat the words, "regalo, regalo, regalo. " That word means gift.

This could have absolutely no bearing on your situation or your personality but I have often found this old saying to be true, If you can make a girl smile she will hold your hand if you can make her laugh she will follow you up the stairs to the bedroom. Happy hunting.

I just got back from Bogota and am already planning a trip back to Colombia in the next 2 weeks or so. I want to go back to Bogota and also visit Medellin, Barranquilla and San Andres island. I can speak good enough Spanish that I feel comfortable travelling around the country alone but its not perfect by any means I would like to meet a girl who can speak at least basic English. I know they exist. Where is the best places to look in Bogota and Medellin?

This is a hotel across from SanPeter. It is not a spa nor does it have working girls. I asked for a spa near San Peter and Shamester responded with that. Probably thought I was looking for a hotel near San Peter?

[QUOTE=Regnom3000;2602479]Can you elaborate on this? Like girls at the hotel bar are prepagos? Or this spot also has spa services? Curioso.[/QUOTE].

I have given money to non hookers as well. The people in Colombia struggle for things we take for granted. It is definitely appreciated

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2602430]So that helps you not feel guilty while helping them feel like you saw them as a hooker? I would feel guilty by treating a chick I knew not to be a hooker like that.[/QUOTE].

Medellin seems to have been recovering from the restrictions of the Pandemic. Now there are many options and girls available. Parque Lleras became ridiculous. There are many many women walking around. The only problem I saw is that they are asking for no less than 300 thousand Colombian money. I think this is an exaggeration because the girls are not the seem 8 or 9 that used to be in this area. Gustos continues being a good spot to pick 8 or 9. The price is still a little high adding the liquor which is really highly priced. I think this is not for everyone. The party is ok but if you come with a group of friends that are really ready to party and drink like crazy. I visited some Salas in the area and encounter a pretty new spot that has as a manager a well known woman in the business in Medellin. Apparently she opened up her own place and it is now trying to catch up with customers and girls. When I went there there were 7 women. One of them was a 9, beautiful sweet Venezuelan girl. Wendy is her name. There was another one little thing that was very hot and flirtatious. I think her name was Martin, and a couple more that were hot friendly and ready to jump to bed. In general was a calm place, nice clean, rooms were also pretty comfy and showers inside the rooms. The price was 90 thousand Colombian pesos one hour and 60 thousand Colombian pesos half an hour. The girls ask for extra if you want something like oral sex bare skin, or if you want anal. I had a good GE with Wendy. Beer was 5 K Colombian pesos and half a bottle of local rum was 50 k. I found this a good place, they even had a VIP room with pole dance. Once you texted them in wassapp they add and send you status updates with current girls and sometimes mini clips. +57312XXXX516 the name of place is called Aventura and it is around the Centro area.

Try a few of the places in Centro. It seems the more you pay in a casa in Medellin the less you get.

[QUOTE=SunDevil;2602277]I decided to partake into a non SA endeavor for old times sake and went to Loutron. The facility is still in the same spotless location. The cost was 330 mil and I chose a girl named Rebecca. The same women who worked manning the cash register are still there. They did not recognize me after about a 2 year long hiatus, plus me wearing a mask did not help.

After the massage and perfunctory performance, I have realized why I keep sticking to SA girls. The Loutron girl would not allow any kissing nor digits in her vagina. How is she supposed to feel her G spot without that? Also during oral, which was covered as usual, she kept examining whether I climaxed or not. After she rode me for a couple of minutes, she hopped off and examined the rubber and declared that I had indeed finished. I was not in the mood to argue, plus I have already seen about 5 SA girls this week, and this encounter was a total turn off and I did not get want to rescue it. I took a shower and got dressed.

There was no small talk involved as well, which I enjoyed with SA girls and the escorts from Montreal and Toronto, who also provide kissing and CIM, as part of their services. I had mainly gone to Canada as part of my mongering adventures during the past couple of years. The services provided in that country by professionals have spoiled me. So no more massage girls for this monger here in Medellin.[/QUOTE]

Get you ass down here on the double. Booty is every where!129395;129395;129395;.

I don't know what they think, because I can't read their minds. But I have never had a girl react negatively. They typically seem grateful. To me, if you give them money because you chose to do so. And she never asked for money. And there was never any discussion / agreement about money before the date. You are not treating her like a hooker. I never want a chica to think that I am trying to trick her into fucking me for free. I have had many non-pros in Medellin who I have not paid, although perhaps we ate or had a drink. Some others I have helped with some money, particularly if I get the impression they need it. I will also give a little money if a chica seems to be looking for something more serious and committed and I'm not. Because I would never want to think that I was some way misleading her just to fuck her. And, yes, that makes me feel better.

Just because you help someone with money, IMO, does not necessarily mean you are treating her like a hooker. But everyone looks at it differently. I honestly have gravitated more towards non-pros and have been very happy with them. On occasion, I see a prepago I've seen before or will try a prepago who's new to the game, but that's not my bread and butter any more.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2602430]So that helps you not feel guilty while helping them feel like you saw them as a hooker? I would feel guilty by treating a chick I knew not to be a hooker like that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2602570]I have given money to non hookers as well. The people in Colombia struggle for things we take for granted. It is definitely appreciated.[/QUOTE]Likewise, I struggle for things that Jeff Bezos takes for granted. What if a non-hooker (as was another poster's experience) picks you up in a Mercedes. Are you still giving money to her?

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2602594]
But everyone looks at it differently. [/QUOTE]Out of curiosity, do you give similar amount of money to women that you don't have sex with or Colombia men that are poor?

Let me try to understand this. A non-hooker picks me up in Medellin driving her mercedes. Well I guess I would not give her any money because obviously she doesn't need it. Does this describe the typical paisa? Driving around in her mercedes? Are you that out of touch or just plain insensitive?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2602595]Likewise, I struggle for things that Jeff Bezos takes for granted. What if a non-hooker (as was another poster's experience) picks you up in a Mercedes. Are you still giving money to her?[/QUOTE].

A couple of days ago I was thinking about this while I was standing at the intersection of San Juan Boulevard and Avenida 70. What would I say to a girl here in Medellin if I had one quick shot, a brief moment to say one thing to see if I can get her to come back to my room and fuck? As if in passing on a crosswalk, jaja. I came up with this. "Would you like to be my girlfriend for 2 hours?" En Espanol, "Te gustara ser mi novia durante 2 horas?" This is probably premature exposition because it has not been field tested yet. As always, I would love to get feedback. Suggestions, and modifications welcome. Brillante.

A success rate of 30% would be incredible and I believe possible, here.

Its an interesting conversation alright.

Giving money FOR sex is obviously prostitution. No doubt there are many grey areas which some of you have already mentioned. One way to get around it is to give small and frequent amounts of money. That way you break the connection between money and sex.

Another observation worthy of consideration is that many Colombians FK each other for fun. Doesn't matter if they are poor or not. So chicas will FK for fun if they are in to you. So really there is no moral obligation. Rather, I think it is a moral virtue. . And there are many morally virtuous acts, so I don't think we need to lose sleep over not giving a girl money for sex. I think the strength of the "crime" is only in the minds of those that feel guilty. And perhaps the interesting question is to understand why they feel guilty. Curious.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2602607]Let me try to understand this. A non-hooker picks me up in Medellin driving her mercedes. Well I guess I would not give her any money because obviously she doesn't need it. Does this describe the typical paisa? Driving around in her mercedes? Are you that out of touch or just plain insensitive?[/QUOTE]Neither. I just tend to treat normal people as normal people, and not charity cases. Everybody needs money. Because a person drives a Mercedes is not saying they don't need money. They have to pay the car note, gas, insurance, food, and any other bill that they may have.

I am just trying to see where the line is as how to discern who to give money to and who not. A few weeks ago a chick in Bogota that owns a salon and a food truck picked me up in her Chevrolet. Should I have given her money after we fucked or even if we would not have fucked?

Maybe these, as you put it, "struggling people in Colombia that definitely appreciate it" are only the ones that we get to stick our dicks into.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2602628]Its an interesting conversation alright.

Giving money FOR sex is obviously prostitution[/QUOTE]Is it really so obvious? Does a so-called trophy wife in the United States who marries a rich man for his money, is she by your definition a prostitute? And once you start trying to use moral virtues as part of the definition that is a very slippery slope because morality and virtues are very cultural to which you also alluded. I think there's a lot of different valid opinions because these scenarios almost have to be considered on a case-by-case basis. There's really no generalities that cover all the situations.

I just got back from my 7th trip to Tijuana and as always it is great. I have now decided to try see Medellin for the very first time. I will be going solo in October and so far I have gathered some info. I have a highly secure Airbnb booked that scans girls ID's Etc. TBH the only thing I'm worried about is getting drugged because I'm going solo. Advice? I'll be seeing Lleras park girls, FB girls, Gusto girls also.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2602428]You take me for someone who would pay Lleras or Gusto's prices? Jajajajajaj.

You can find plenty of good talent who give great service at less than 200-300 mil. And I'm not talking about casa or centro girls either. If you think what you are paying the SA girls is a good deal, good for you. But you can find low volume, good GFE service girls who are not clock watchers outside of SA and pay less.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. Last trip to Colombia I visited I new place called Aventura located near University of Antioquia. This is Centro area. Nice place and had two beautiful 8 or 9. I went with Wendy hot girl and just for a small tip she gave me the best oral sex bare skin. She also was good riding my cock. Just 90 K Colombian peso. Plus a small tip 40 k Colombian peso +57312XXXX516.

So I've previously spent a lot of time in Asia -- Vietnam, China and Thailand in college during internships and after for vacation all of which I went solo. All of which I have also blacked the fuck out in from partying to hard. I understand Colombia is a bit of a different beast versus Asia but I figure it's time to knock it off the bucket list. Spanish level is about the same as talking to a 2.5-3 year old Colombian child and I'll be there for 10 days or so 2 of which I'll half ass working remotely. Let me also mention, but who gives a shit anyways; I'm 28 years old work for big pay in big tech company. Lockdowns been rough so I gained a few lbs but who the shit didn't. I'd give my self a rating but that shits kinda gay so I'll just say probably slightly above average, but still 5'8 so knock off 1 point there on the scale. I started prowling these boards for some information so I don't get killed or pick up a tranny or some shit. Yes you have convinced me from browsing this forum not to continue the streak and blackout in Medellin. Although I cannot make any promises because there's a less than 1% chance I'm turning down the cocaina if offered -- oh, and covid lockdown has turned my once golden crown jewel of a liver against me from not drinking for a year so will probably get hammered after a few shots.

Anyways in preparation after I decided to impulsively buy a ticket for no god damn reason I have done the following:

-Booked a $100+ a night apartment, probably more than I ever should pay in Medellin, but fuck it I wanted a balcony in Poblado and a god damn jacuzzi. Plus I can flex a bit and show the hoes on whatsapp I've got a fucking jacuzzi in my room.

-Made a FB from scratch; lots of shit there so far just kind of lazy to deal with messaging, google translating and the effort of creeping every possible hoe. Maybe I'm not good at this or finding these girls here but these 6-7's don't seem to be worth the effort and that FB contact list takes 9 years for them to accept a friend request.

-Looked through all the prepagos sites and it seems okay I guess but I'm always sketched about these. Tried looking up strip clubs, casas but got overwhelmed and didn't know where the fuck to look or start so I gave up.

-Bought Colombian Cupid subscription and I haven't really used it much to be honest. So nothing to say about this shit so far besides you get every variety from fugly to 10. Pretty sure this is a more local way of online dating so it hasn't been anything crazy; with effort I feel like magic can happen here but I like the next two since I literally do nothing and my phone notifications are going through the fucking roof.

-Bought Tinder Gold applied a few boosts and BAM. Shit's a fucking gold mine so far matching with dozens of 7-10's, throw in a few 6's just in case cause they just seem kinda fun, and the occasional accidental tranny from swiping right to goddamn fast. Seems about 1/4 are throwing out the "Yo busco amigas con beneficios" which from the few wrinkles I was able to muster in my brain, I pieced together as, "give me your fucking gringo money and ill let you touch me". Realistically, I've lined up enough dates to cover more than my 10 days can accommodate so I'm kinda just stringing along a plan b, c, d, E, F, G, H, I, J if all else fails. Don't plan to put to much effort into the probably-not-going to-get-laid-on-the-first-date-girls but there's a lot of downtime on vacation for 10 days in the city and since I fly solo when travelling having friends or tour guides is always a plus during the daytime when I'm bored as shit waiting for nighttime shenanigans.

-Bought a fucking $99 SA account for the month and Jesus Christ you fucks have made this easy to find girls on this site. I had a Medellin girl show me the dudes I'd be competing with on that site and wow, I look like Brad Pitt in a sea of fucking Steve Buscemi's. Not many younger guys on SA so I play the "It's my first time I don't normally do this type of thing" card and it gets them every time -- or maybe that's the reverse psychology and their already plotting my demise. Regardless I haven't done shit and I'm getting nude WhatsApp video calls each night one of the girls I plan on seeing. She. "allegedly" claims to be in school and works at some call center or some shit but has already taken 10 days off for my arrival. This is where I think I fucked up because I got a reservation at El Cielo which is a Michelin Star restaurant ($250 ish for 2? Maybe? I hope? Will find out I guess but once again fuck it cause that shit would be 3-4 x the price at a Michelin star in the states) and a Glamping trip at some overpriced bubble-hotel-thingy by that big rock I have no desire to climb up an hour away from MDE and promised to take her. She's meeting me at the airport when I arrive and plans on staying at my apartment a few nights (she said the entire time but no chance I'll settle for one piece when I'm in a goddamn steak buffet) but there's been zero talk of money exchanges with her and she tells me all this shit about dating and future shit that it's kind of scaring me; but I've got no experience with chicks here so I just assume they've got the typical Latina clingy trait. Yes -- I'm also checking every nook-and-fucking-cranny for red flags because it's a goddamn sugar daddy site so I assume she's just wanting to experience the fancy shit and will try to milk every drop while she can since that's how the game is played. I extended my trip and got a later departing date and after I told her she offered me to stay at her apartment so I don't have to book another pad since I planned on leaving earlier. Most others are pretty forward with the business approach quoting me 150-200 k by the hour and like 600-800 k for a planned overnight. Some quoted the Americano dollars and from the advice on these boards I politely told them to piss off. The others are window shopping or new to this type of game and these are the ones I'm hitting up. They are seemingly surprised when I tell them I'm not looking for sex (LOL), but instead a tour guide to show me around and that I can take on a date since all you fucks are going balls to the wall right away with it offering the dinero within the first few messages. Hit them with my Whatsapp cause I'm lazy and can't copy paste the entire message into google translate from SA and show them videos of where I work and the nerdy computer engineering shit I do; then they get impressed and start getting sentimental and shit. Show them my apartment I booked and reservation for two at El Cielo (which is taken but they don't know that) oddly none of these girls have asked yet about business transactions but all want to see me so I'm riding this boat until it sinks.

So with that. I am once again asking for your wisdom and mongering-support, ISG, in my time of need for support and advice on what the fuck to do because I don't have any idea of where to go, where to party, what are the nightclub girls like, where the good strip clubs are or casas. Am I missing anything. I'll probably be getting VIP tables at clubs and trying to live lavish for these 10 days so I assume will put a fat ass target on me -- so I give myself a medium-high probability of getting robbed but I've got an old shitter iphone on me as a dud so I'll rock the two phones gang in case that does happen. I'll be in Poblado / Laurales mainly; I'm not not dumb enough to wander El Centro at night on a solo trip so I'll probably go sightseeing during the day at least once. If I make it back alive, or once my ransom is paid off I'll report back and let you know how this shit pans out.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2602607]Let me try to understand this. A non-hooker picks me up in Medellin driving her mercedes. Well I guess I would not give her any money because obviously she doesn't need it. Does this describe the typical paisa? Driving around in her mercedes? Are you that out of touch or just plain insensitive?.[/QUOTE]Maybe a specific example would help.

My former roommate, who was and still is a webcam model. If you happened to run into her at a bar, if you managed to catch her eye, if you played it right and she was in the right mood, there's a chance you would end up in bed with her. In the morning, if you tried to give her money, you would be dealing with a screaming, little bundle of unrestrained violence.

His point is, at least to me, that if a woman accepts money from you after sex, you weren't dealing with a non-pro. Everyone can rationalize it however they want, but if she takes the money instead of getting offended, you misunderstood the situation from the beginning.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2602629]Neither. I just tend to treat normal people as normal people, and not charity cases. Everybody needs money. Because a person drives a Mercedes is not saying they don't need money. They have to pay the car note, gas, insurance, food, and any other bill that they may have.

I am just trying to see where the line is as how to discern who to give money to and who not. A few weeks ago a chick in Bogota that owns a salon and a food truck picked me up in her Chevrolet. Should I have given her money after we fucked or even if we would not have fucked?

Maybe these, as you put it, "struggling people in Colombia that definitely appreciate it" are only the ones that we get to stick our dicks into.[/QUOTE]I think, it is selfish for a man not to give money or gift to a stranger woman after fucking regardless what she drives or owns. I mostly monger with women from Cupid in their mid 30's, and after seeing them for few days, I take them to the mall, buy something or give them money so they can buy few things. During my last visit one woman from cupid, a school teacher accompanied me to San Andres for 3 days and I paid her apartment rent that was only $250 USD.

[QUOTE=JJ1265;2602545]I just got back from Bogota and am already planning a trip back to Colombia in the next 2 weeks or so. I want to go back to Bogota and also visit Medellin, Barranquilla and San Andres island. I can speak good enough Spanish that I feel comfortable travelling around the country alone but its not perfect by any means I would like to meet a girl who can speak at least basic English. I know they exist. Where is the best places to look in Bogota and Medellin?[/QUOTE]Put an English ad in a local site.

There's seems to be a risk to being drugged / robbed even if your intentions are to just date / meet people. Well I don't smoke, drink, or do any drugs. So my current plan is to get a place in Laurales. I have no interest in using tinder or Fb based on stories I read. I'm thinking about renting a bike and exploring places like el Centro. There's not a lot of talk on providers from online escorts sites. Why is that?

The legend in his own mind, jaja. I'll be down in El Centro today looking for that little brunette miniature to check out the size of her hole and that Prego blonde in front of the church for a bareback blowjob. You can't miss me I'm six foot four and the spitting image of Tom Selleck. I wish. I'm the man with the long curly hair, loud colorful shirt on and then Nike track pants. Tell me your screen name and I'll buy you a beer. Or just stare from a distance, but I don't bite. Ostee out!

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2602742]I think, it is selfish for a man not to give money or gift to a stranger woman after fucking regardless what she drives or owns. I mostly monger with women from Cupid in their mid 30's, and after seeing them for few days, I take them to the mall, buy something or give them money so they can buy few things. During my last visit one woman from cupid, a school teacher accompanied me to San Andres for 3 days and I paid her apartment rent that was only $250 USD.[/QUOTE]I can't say I agree or disagree with your approach 100%. It seems you're either dating a prostitute or simping. That's well within what I would consider a gray area. Might be you're just trying to be nice. I think you're comfortable with your approach, but I wouldn't advocate that girls see that as the norm. For tourists that see SA as a break from the bull dating scene in the USA, having a clear, no commitment, just cash per occasion approach is refreshing and desired.

You do you, but make sure that they know you are special and shouldn't expect that from a guy that wants to rampage for a weekend. That said, a weekend warrior should not go and disrupt the ecosystem either by paying high prices and throwing everything out of wack.

Be safe.

[QUOTE=CollegeKidJay;2602680]
So with that. I am once again asking for your wisdom and mongering-support, ISG, in my time of need for support and advice on what the fuck to do because I don't have any idea of where to go, where to party, what are the nightclub girls like, where the good strip clubs are or casas. Am I missing anything. I'll probably be getting VIP tables at clubs and trying to live lavish for these 10 days so I assume will put a fat ass target on me -- so I give myself a medium-high probability of getting robbed but I've got an old shitter iphone on me as a dud so I'll rock the two phones gang in case that does happen. I'll be in Poblado / Laurales mainly; I'm not not dumb enough to wander El Centro at night on a solo trip so I'll probably go sightseeing during the day at least once. If I make it back alive, or once my ransom is paid off I'll report back and let you know how this shit pans out.[/QUOTE]Hahahhahahahahahaa jesus christ dude, PM me and use the search function on the forum.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2602777]Put an English ad in a local site.[/QUOTE]Which local site is good for placing ad for a monger-friendly lady for local guide and interpreter?

I have checked showaround site but its reviews are not good. Too many fake profiles, locals who do not respond, and requires monthly subscription to contact locals.

When I first came on this Website you would be ostracized, practically a pariah if you even suggested that you spent more money than someone else thought you should on a girl, regular or puta. It's okay! Those who don't, they're okay, too. That's a personal decision and really no one's business but their own. I believe it all evens out and we all pay one way or another in the end. The acid test is if you want to see the girl again, is she willing to see you? If so, then everything is copacetic.

Gawd, it's a perfect day outside right now, the kind of day for which I come here.

All I had to do was mention to Catgirl yesterday that my computer was on the fritz and she came and got me on her Moto and took me to a multi-level mall that was nothing but computer stores inside. Handy novia shite. I'm not saying there's a break even on the novia shite for the moto, but that's not why I did it. I did it because I could and because it made me happy and it made her ridiculously happy.

That modern computer mall is a thing I've seen in many places in the world that I wish they would reproduce in the USA. Shopping enclaves concentrated on all-in-one specialties.

In a way it feels good to be without my computer for a few days although I definitely need one. I find it so easy to get sucked in and often spent too much time on it and online.

I hope I bump into one or more of you guys today in El Centro.

My new little Paisa miniature in the photo with the towel on her head, she can't get enough of the pink powder. I could be seeing her every day. She messages me every morning but it is good to leave them wanting a little more than they get, of the powder, tongue, and dick. I pay her 150 not one peso more, I've taking her out shopping a couple of times, first of all things, nothing extravagant. She stays between 3 and 7 hours with three hole access. We're both happy which is the hallmark of a good deal. Life is good.

If I didn't have to work today I'd take you up on it jaja. Feel like I owe you a beer after all the help. Have fun.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2602783]The legend in his own mind, jaja. I'll be down in El Centro today looking for that little brunette miniature to check out the size of her hole and that Prego blonde in front of the church for a bareback blowjob. You can't miss me I'm six foot four and the spitting image of Tom Selleck. I wish. I'm the man with the long curly hair, loud colorful shirt on and then Nike track pants. Tell me your screen name and I'll buy you a beer. Or just stare from a distance, but I don't bite. Ostee out![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2602692]if a woman accepts money from you after sex, you weren't dealing with a non-pro. Everyone can rationalize it however they want, but if she takes the money insteady of getting offended, you misunderstood the situation from the beginning.[/QUOTE]She describes a possible scenario and maybe even a probable scenario but not one that covers every single situation. I would stake my reputation, the value of which is debatable, that I have given money to girls after sex when it was the first time they ever took money for sex. Possibly I was delusional but not every single time, I'm too seasoned and experienced at this game and I read people fairly well.

Simply put, her view is an oversimplification.

As is always the case with these types of opinions you have to consider the source and your source was clearly was an example of selection bias, IMO.

Are you did not say it was your opinion but I am inferring from the way you wrote it that you agreed with her opinion.

Headed out to El Centro now.

[QUOTE=Psicologo2007;2602649]I agree with you. Last trip to Colombia I visited I new place called Aventura located near University of Antioquia. This is Centro area. Nice place and had two beautiful 8 or 9. I went with Wendy hot girl and just for a small tip she gave me the best oral sex bare skin. She also was good riding my cock. Just 90 K Colombian peso. Plus a small tip 40 k Colombian peso +57312XXXX516.[/QUOTE]Since phone# is xxxx'd out, how to find this place in Aventura mall.

The idea of paying for sex is just out there now. TikTok, Only Fans, Snap Premium, mom and pop PornHub channels, engaging a pornstar on Twitter. It's just out there like never before. Why the US hasn't legalized prostitution after it legalized weed is beyond me but it's just a matter of time. IMO.

Plus, the exposure of the female nature via female admission, of you study the triumph of actions over words, the growth of the manosphere / MGTOW. If you're still attracted to women after being exposed to all that, you have no choice but to go the route of sexy prostitute (which means I don't have to change the fundamental nature of my character, just be careful of my drink!) or drink till you get beer goggles and hook a land whale.

I very much adore the elegant female form. So much so that I would buy the experience. One thin I realized in my life and the turning point on this matter is, everything I wanted I bought. I never won it. It never fell into my lap. I paid for it. All the efforts to date and marry a dime never amounted to anything, so I decided to skip the line, save the time and buy the experience of having sex with the body types I adore. I'll never marry them, but I'll enjoy their bodies.

Enough with the mediocrity of a prudish 5, a skanky 6, and the blue balling of American strippers. Medellin allows, without legal hang ups, the opportunity, therefore so be it. It beats the lie of Las Vegas, NV.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2602820]When I first came on this Website you would be ostracized, practically a pariah if you even suggested that you spent more money than someone else thought you should on a girl, regular or puta. It's okay! Those who don't, they're okay, too. That's a personal decision and really no one's business but their own. I believe it all evens out and we all pay one way or another in the end. The acid test is if you want to see the girl again, is she willing to see you? If so, then everything is copacetic.

Gawd, it's a perfect day outside right now, the kind of day for which I come here.

All I had to do was mention to Catgirl yesterday that my computer was on the fritz and she came and got me on her Moto and took me to a multi-level mall that was nothing but computer stores inside. Handy novia shite. I'm not saying there's a break even on the novia shite for the moto, but that's not why I did it. I did it because I could and because it made me happy and it made her ridiculously happy..[/QUOTE]

All this talk about Colombian chicas (pro or non-pro, GFE, honesty, puta or not, scams, pesos, looks and beauty factor, dating or friendships or love, blah blah blah, etc) is solely subjective and usually based on one persons perspective and experience so lets keep it real guys.

Here are the guidelines at it's core. Some of these bullet points took me decades to truly understand and appreciate as I have been traveling to Colombia for 25 plus years and now living almost 8 years in Medellin.

If your a know it all or are simply too hard headed then stop reading now and take another 5, 10 or like some guys I know 15 years then after you wise up return to this post and re-read these bullet points:

1. Take nothing and nobody serious.

2. The only honest woman is a prostitute and this is especially true in Colombia.

3. This is their culture, their way of thought process and reasoning abilities, as dark ages as it may seem but they know no different so forget about everything that you learnt.

4. They all think that they are smarter then us, typical of any teenager or early 20's woman any where in the world.

5. It is ALL about the money and the moment that you think anything otherwise your fucked. So stop with the "oh I must be different or special to them" which in your mind somehow elevates you or places you as being more important than the next guy but never forget we are all just another slinging dick and it does not matter our age or looks occupation or how much money we lavish them with.

6. The lower the strata the chica (barrio chicas) the more they lie outright AND the higher the strata the chica is from the only difference is that they have more skill at their dishonesty and are able to be a bit more cleaver at it BUT the culture is to always "gain and play" at whatever the cost.

7. They take no responsibility for anything, this is true for the Colombian chicas and guys, this is their culture and this will never change.

8. They all fuck around, all of them, all the time as this is their culture. I know firsthand as I have been played in years past but now I could care less as I understand how the game is played. Colombian guys will hunt down and do whatever they need to do to get into any chicas pants that they want. They have an art at this and deep down "your special girl" is proud to be the prey as this is normal. Again take nothing serious. My gawd if the walls of my apartment could speak I would be in big trouble as I too have enjoyed playing with chicas that I never imagined I would stoop to in other words the lines that I crossed but I now understand that this is 'normal' so "when in Rome do as the Romans do."

9. When a Colombian chica turns early to mid 20's they have had so much sex with so many guys (and for many of them starting when the were pre-teen) and some other women too that they have become worn down so get it when you can and before they hit about 20, in other words by the grandma age of early to mid 20's. Colombians have one of the highest teenage pregnancy in the world.

10. They change as they hit 20 (spoiled) or so as I have meet many young and fresh non-pro teenagers just starting who were so damn cute and sweet but now 3 or 4 or 5 years later they grace the top spots on Facebook pages and I see them posting pics of their adventures with gringos who take them to Cartagena and San Andreas and Cancun or where ever BUT know this. I have a stash of photos and videos of them from 2 to 5 years ago and the difference is remarkable in terms of plastic surgery and over the top make up and fashion.

11. Have zero expectations, just allow things to happen. I now live every day like this and have an incredible life here in Medellin.

12. Again take no chica serious at anything she says, promises, shows of affection etc rather just enjoy it for what it is.

13. The vast majority of them demands that they have and maintain their independence. This is from generations of the typical Colombian man's dishonesty to them, the irresponsibility and lack of any respect they show for the women.

14. Finally guys, stop over paying them, think about "paying it forward" to the next slinging gringo dick that comes after you in 1 or 2 or 5 years later.

And I will be the first to say that I have come to love the Colombian prostitutes as their honestly is so freeing and I also love the barrio chicas, so much fun.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2602638]Is it really so obvious? Does a so-called trophy wife in the United States who marries a rich man for his money, is she by your definition a prostitute? And once you start trying to use moral virtues as part of the definition that is a very slippery slope because morality and virtues are very cultural to which you also alluded. I think there's a lot of different valid opinions because these scenarios almost have to be considered on a case-by-case basis. There's really no generalities that cover all the situations.[/QUOTE]I'll simplify it for you. Everyone who has sex is a prostitute. We're all doing what we do because we feel we're getting something of value in return. Just for the sake of discussion let's use $100 for the example. If I pay $100 for sex with a woman, it's because I feel that sex with that woman is worth more than $100. She does it because she feels $100 is worth more than not having sex with me. If instead of money it's food and drinks, or flowers, or just a few insincere compliments, it's the same thing, we trade something for something else because we feel we're getting the best end of the deal.

Of course, simplifying it makes it more complicated. In the exchange you have to figure out what the other person expects to get in return for spreading her legs.

More outfall from COVID, just like the Delta variant, we now have a new strain of street walkers roaming around "ground zero" in El Centro.

Up until six months ago there where very few street walkers that where actively looking for gringos, which I'm going to label "gringo hunters", and they are becoming more and more prevalent as a result of mongers paying double, triple, and more than what the locals pay.

Unfortunately with Asia being shut down, I am seeing boatloads of mongers who normally would frequent Thailand and the Philippines showing up in El Centro and upsetting the apple cart.

And lots of these mongers have been over paying, and as a result the girls are now asking for way more money when dealing with a gringo.

The "gringo hunters" are very aggressive, and when they spot a gringo, they give them the google eye, come up to them, and shake their booty around which typically they would not do with a local.

Case in point, and this truly illustrates how bad it is. I at times when I see a candy girl of interest will approach them, hand them 500 Pesos, grab whatever is in the bag, and check the merchandise out. Typically these girls all go to the room and I am usually quoted 20-30 k. Yesterday I saw a candy girl of interest, handed her 500 Pesos, and she asked if I wanted to go to the room and when I asked how much she said 50,000 COP. I was shocked, I laughed at her, told her I wasn't a fool, and good luck and walked way. This candy girl was not actively looking for a gringo, but thru the grapevine the street walkers are aware that the gringos are overpaying and trying to get in on the bounty.

Sometimes I hang opposite the Veracruz Church by the glass passageway and just observe. Very few people know I'm a gringo when my mouth is shut, so I am basically under the radar. What I have observed and witnessed is that the Venezuelans are much more adept as "gringo hunters" than the Colombians, and will come on real strong when a gringo passes by either with eye contact, or coming up to them as I mentioned.

And the problem is, all the new mongers here with no experience here can't believe how cheap it is, and when quoted 60 K or more don't bat an eye at paying that for a rato.

I'm just blowing off some steam based on what I have observed and upon hearing what guys are paying as I don't like what I have become aware of, yet have no control over it.

It wasn't like this six months ago, and I can't wait for Asia to open back up.

Not only so I can go there, but to get all the mongers upsetting the apple cart here out of here, but actually some will stop going to Asia after experiencing what is available here.

There will always be hidden gems to mine in Centro, but there going to be harder to find with the onslaught of mongers arriving.

[QUOTE=Regnom3000;2602821]If I didn't have to work today I'd take you up on it jaja. Feel like I owe you a beer after all the help. Have fun.[/QUOTE]My bad, I said Nike before. I have both but I'm more of an Adidas guy, more of a LeBron guy. I am here in El Centro. Lots of good-looking trim at first blush.

Went to el centro today after a lap I said let's go to raudal. Woah!! They are stacked over there. One chick was hot and looked seasoned. Thotimus Prime is her name. She could smell my fresh meat and tried to scam me. She was like do you know how much it cost. I said tell me and she was acting funny. So I got onto the forum here searched raudal and get my information 50 for the girl 16 for the room. I told her good try I can't knock your hustle.

Right when I was like F it I'm going to go to "the pig I saw a girl walking towards the area and a black outfit and a big booty. So I walked back over with about two minutes and waited for her to come out and it was probably the best service I had in Columbia for the last three days. She was stacked like Nicki Minaj stacked and look good. Give me a good covert BJ let me hit it from the back it was really nice to me. This may be the end of the FB girls for me. 50 is way better than 250. Even my kind of Novia got mad because I gave her 200 and I didn't give her 20 for the can. Mean we did eat dinner if I come out A pocket almost 100 mill and fun you should at least overlooked it 20 mill I didn't give you. All I know I will be back tomorrow. Milk dog out.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2602783]I'll be down in El Centro today looking for that little brunette miniature to check out the size of her hole and that Prego blonde in front of the church for a bareback blowjob. You can't miss me I'm six foot four and the spitting image of Tom Selleck. I wish. I'm the man with the long curly hair, loud colorful shirt on and then Nike track pants. Tell me your screen name and I'll buy you a beer.[/QUOTE]Ah shame man, If I had known, I would have hooked up with you. I was there earlier today. Lunch time. I didn't see any loudshirt midgets around. If you could give me a little notice I could have done it.

Factory lofts is only letting 3 guests for the entire duration of your stay for free before you start paying additional guest fee. Looks like San peter is the only major GF stay in the area. In July, I checked out Luxury Life apartments. They are clean and super new but require a longer month to month rental. Has anyone stayed at Alori lofts. Any other recommendations?

I have given someone money without having sex with her (whether that means just hanging out with her or just kissing or just groping. Anything below actual sexual intercourse). Most of the girls I know in Medellin are poor. If I was with a girl who had a great job or who came from strata 5, then I probably would not offer her money.

I don't really hang out with Colombian men. If you do and you give them money, good for you, whether it be for services or not. But I do fund my ex-wife's cousin's tuition at collegio. He has Down's Syndrome and special needs. And I feel good about it. Happy now?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2602606]Out of curiosity, do you give similar amount of money to women that you don't have sex with or Colombia men that are poor?[/QUOTE]

I can't disagree with almost any of this. I do have one difference of opinion. While many chicas I have seen are all about the money, I have had some who are not. Obviously they are non-pros. Some of them just like to be treated nicely and with respect, the opposite of what Colombian ghetto rats do. That said, "treated nicely" might mean spending a little money on some food or drinks. Or it might not. I really feel like more than a few Colombianas has daddy issues or have other mental issues related to sexual abuse. And they seem to gravitate a guy who is nice to them and shows respect to them. I have had more than a few girls who were with me and never asked for money and it was clear they were not looking for money (so I didn't pay them). They were happy with respectful treatment and a few compliments (which I only give as deserved. Pretty much every chica has something you can compliment honestly). I am 56. I am average in appearance. Yet I have had some great experiences with non-pros. I always ask myself why. Do they like being treated like a lady? Do they like the sincere attention? Do they have a need to be with someone they feel safe with? Do they like to be able to tell their friends they have a gringo friend? Maybe they like the way I satisfy them with oral sex and other things that focus the attention on them and not on me getting off. I'm not saying money is not a primary motivation for most (either money right away or money going forward), but I think there are some exceptions. But you often have to work to find them.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2602865]
5. It is ALL about the money and the moment that you think anything otherwise your fucked. So stop with the "oh I must be different or special to them" which in your mind somehow elevates you or places you as being more important than the next guy but never forget we are all just another slinging dick and it does not matter our age or looks occupation or how much money we lavish them with.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2602820]When I first came on this Website you would be ostracized, practically a pariah if you even suggested that you spent more money than someone else thought you should on a girl, regular or puta. It's okay! Those who don't, they're okay, too. That's a personal decision and really no one's business but their own. .[/QUOTE]The reality is that when we jump all over people who we think pay too much. They do not stop paying too much, they just stop admiting that they pay too much. Maybew they even stop posting all together. So then there is no way to know there are people that pay too much because no one wantss to bring it up. Better to know everything that's going on than to not know everythings that going on. People can suggest to other people that they not pay too much but its like leading a horse to water. Does not mean that they are going to drink it.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2602884]Went to el centro today after a lap I said let's go to raudal. Woah!! They are stacked over there. One chick was hot and looked seasoned. Thotimus Prime is her name. She could smell my fresh meat and tried to scam me. She was like do you know how much it cost. I said tell me and she was acting funny. So I got onto the forum here searched raudal and get my information 50 for the girl 16 for the room. I told her good try I can't knock your hustle.

Right when I was like F it I'm going to go to "the pig I saw a girl walking towards the area and a black outfit and a big booty. So I walked back over with about two minutes and waited for her to come out and it was probably the best service I had in Columbia for the last three days. She was stacked like Nicki Minaj stacked and look good. Give me a good covert BJ let me hit it from the back it was really nice to me. This may be the end of the FB girls for me. 50 is way better than 250. Even my kind of Novia got mad because I gave her 200 and I didn't give her 20 for the can. Mean we did eat dinner if I come out A pocket almost 100 mill and fun you should at least overlooked it 20 mill I didn't give you. All I know I will be back tomorrow. Milk dog out.[/QUOTE]Nicki Minaj stacked is my jam. You might have spurred enough inspiration for me to give centro another shot.

[QUOTE=CollegeKidJay;2602680]So I've previously spent a lot of time in Asia -- Vietnam, China and Thailand in college during internships and after for vacation all of which I went solo. All of which I have also blacked the fuck out in from partying to hard. I understand Colombia is a bit of a different beast versus Asia but I figure it's time to knock it off the bucket list. Spanish level is about the same as talking to a 2.5-3 year old Colombian child and I'll be there for 10 days or so 2 of which I'll half ass working remotely. Let me also mention, but who gives a shit anyways; I'm 28 years old work for big pay in big tech company. Lockdowns been rough so I gained a few lbs but who the shit didn't. I'd give my self a rating but that shits kinda gay so I'll just say probably slightly above average, but still 5'8 so knock off 1 point there on the scale. I started prowling these boards for some information so I don't get killed or pick up a tranny or some shit. Yes you have convinced me from browsing this forum not to continue the streak and blackout in Medellin. Although I cannot make any promises because there's a less than 1% chance I'm turning down the cocaina if offered -- oh, and covid lockdown has turned my once golden crown jewel of a liver against me from not drinking for a year so will probably get hammered after a few shots.

Anyways in preparation after I decided to impulsively buy a ticket for no god damn reason I have done the following:..[/QUOTE]LOL! I dig it dude. I'm in a very similar situation as you. I haven't been to Medellin yet, but I plan on staying in a similar apartment in El Poblado and will also mostly rely on SA and from there, asking girls if they have any hot friends. Like I said, I haven't been to Medellin yet so wtf do I know compared to the vets on the forum but I don't really see any faults in your plan besides 1) I would never fucking get in a vehicle with anyone who isn't my Uber / Taxi esp. In a foreign country I am not yet familiar with and 2) it doesn't really seem like you've checked if your Airbnb is guest friendly. From my experience, a lot of Airbnb's like the one you've booked aren't, but there are plenty of love hotels in most cities in South America so logistics shouldn't be too big of an issue if bringing guests up to the Airbnb does end up becoming a complicated issue.

Personally, Medellin wouldn't be my first pick as a noob. It is probably the best destination with arguably the most fun forum, but it's just not very noob friendly. My opinion doesn't fucking matter but personally I would start with a 10-14 day trip to So Paulo because truth be told, the Scandallo club just makes things too fucking easy so you have the chance to really take everything in gently since truth be told, the experience can be a little overwhelming. Relax talking with a girl for an hour or 2, slowly take in the atmosphere, and then fuck for 800 Brazilian Real. 3000 are should be a fair amount for her to stay with you for a weekend (and that's probably overpaying). After that I'd do 3 months in Mexico City just because the Seeking Arrangements scene is so unbelievably abundant there and because to me, it seems a little friendlier to tourism. Would also hire a Spanish tutor in CDMX so that when I do get around to visiting Medellin, I would at least be able to make out whether people talking about me plan to kill me or just kidnap me for ransom haha.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2602925]The reality is that when we jump all over people who we think pay too much. They do not stop paying too much, they just stop admiting that they pay too much. Maybew they even stop posting all together. So then there is no way to know there are people that pay too much because no one wantss to bring it up. Better to know everything that's going on than to not know everythings that going on. People can suggest to other people that they not pay too much but its like leading a horse to water. Does not mean that they are going to drink it.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct. I'm with Ostee, I don't go on monger vacations to haggle over 50 k COP ($13 usd) for some pussy. It's not even worth my time.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2602925]The reality is that when we jump all over people who we think pay too much. They do not stop paying too much, they just stop admiting that they pay too much. Maybew they even stop posting all together. So then there is no way to know there are people that pay too much because no one wantss to bring it up. Better to know everything that's going on than to not know everythings that going on.[/QUOTE]I would agree with that, but I also think a lot of the problem is the guys bragging about banging on the cheap are not honest about the quality of the women. What is missed in all that is the people who have lived in Colombia have told me that they have not seen the mythical 10 in Centro or Santa Fe. The best they have seen is like an 8.

I posted that I fucked a 10 from seeking / SA named Kiara in my hotel and showed a picture of her. I paid her a $100 and looks wise IMO she was a 10. Yes, I know if I want to accept a more used up twelve men a day woman and fuck in a flea bag motel, I can get it for less. Kiara's problems though were that her attitude was like a 2 and performance was like a 6, and because of her attitude and performance I would not recommend anyone see her. On the forum in public, I get guys saying I overpaid but by PM, a bunch of guys hit me up for her number.

The thing about the culture here that I cannot stand is that everyone is focused on how much money versus the value of the experience. There is value and I will pay more for a woman who is hot, performs well, has a good attitude, and that I can fuck in the comforts of my hotel room versus on a damned massage table.

Just because you are paying less does not mean you are getting a better value. Likewise, if you think my paying a 10 like Kiara a $100 somehow threatens you getting cheap pussy in Centro or Santa Fe, you are out of your fucking mind. She is probably the play thing of some multimillionaire right now getting way more than I paid her.

The common thread of the guys bragging about how little they paid is that their women are stunning, the greatest in bed, but they rarely show pics of said women. Gee, I wonder why. If you tell me you had the best sex of your life on a cardboard bed or massage table, my response to you is that you need to live a little. That is like saying you had the best meal of your life at a fast food restaurant.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2602869]I'll simplify it for you. Everyone who has sex is a prostitute. We're all doing whatu we do because we feel we're getting something of value in return. Just for the sake of discussion let's use $100 for the example. If I pay $100 for sex with a woman, it's because I feel that sex with that woman is worth more than $100. She does it because she feels $100 is worth more than not having sex with me. If instead of money it's food and drinks, or flowers, or just a few insincere compliments, it's the same thing, we trade something for something else because we feel we're getting the best end of the deal.

Of course, simplifying it makes it more complicated. In the exchange you have to figure out what the other person expects to get in return for spreading her legs.[/QUOTE]Similar to saying what I have many times, we all pay one way or another. I overstated my opinion in the title earlier of my response to you when I said I could not disagree more. In reality, your roommate's opinion is correct most of the time. Call me an idealist but I still would like to believe that somewhere out there maybe once or twice a day in the world there are two people who are getting together and having sex and making love for the purest of reasons but who knows? According to you, that's not true. You did not leave any wiggle room. Perhaps that is consistent with your self-confessed cynical outlook and maybe that introduces some bias, who can say?

Sometimes I go back and read what I wrote and I can't believe it myself because I think my answer was pure at the time, but then I see an emotional response. I think most people have a gut reaction at first. However this website has such a lag built into the response time that I sometimes feel like there's a pressure to answer, if you know what I mean.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2602875]Typically these girls all go to the room and I am usually quoted 20-30 k. Yesterday I saw a candy girl of interest, handed her 500 Pesos, and she asked if I wanted to go to the room and when I asked how much she said 50,000 COP. I was shocked, I laughed at her, told her I wasn't a fool, and good luck and walked way.[/QUOTE]In the words of the Sosua, Costa Rica, Panama and other crews that are moving in to fuck things up: "It is only $5! I am not going to ruin the mood by haggling over that."

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2602963]In the words of the Sosua, Costa Rica, Panama and other crews that are moving in to fuck things up: "It is only $5! I am not going to ruin the mood by haggling over that."[/QUOTE]Don't leave out those fools from Tijuana.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2602783]The legend in his own mind, jaja. I'll be down in El Centro today looking for that little brunette miniature to check out the size of her hole and that Prego blonde in front of the church for a bareback blowjob. You can't miss me I'm six foot four and the spitting image of Tom Selleck. I wish. I'm the man with the long curly hair, loud colorful shirt on and then Nike track pants. Tell me your screen name and I'll buy you a beer. Or just stare from a distance, but I don't bite. Ostee out![/QUOTE]Meet the man that actually knows what is happening in Centro. The really short really skinny girl who does not have a pretty face is gone. The one called midget who is not one. She moved to Pereira a month ago with another Centro girl. The other Centro girl returned to Medellin a week later. The super short thin not so pretty face girl liked it there and stayed. I know because I sexed both in Centro and then Pereira. Have seen the one back in Centro, but not the other.

I played with a few street girls in Manizales. Two of them are now in Centro. Small world.

Two guys posted that the girl I sexed twice in Barranquilla was a guy. Well I sexed "her-him" twice again in Santa Marta. Funny how this "guy" turned several guys heads when walking down beach street Santa Marta. "he-She" waited outside my hotel for me. We went to another hotel and had sex. When I walked back to my hotel one of the street vendors gave me a thumbs up for choosing a pretty girl. Small world.

Older sister or friend with a young sexily dressed girl were arrested outside Hotel Bolivar Botero (across from the church). Older girl was upstairs and the younger one was waiting downstairs from what I saw but more could have been happening such as bringing the younger one upstairs. Maybe learn more details tomorrow.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2602963]In the words of the Sosua, Costa Rica, Panama and other crews that are moving in to fuck things up: "It is only $5! I am not going to ruin the mood by haggling over that."[/QUOTE]I love the guys who are not here and thus not know what they are talking about. I left Medellin to tour Manizales, Pereira, Armenia, and Santa Marta for 6-7 weeks. Came back. There are not many new faces at all when I returned. Many of the girls I liked have disappeared or come out 1-2 days only. I have not had much issue with price yet but the attitudes are shit. I have lost 25% of the girls I liked to repeat with. 25% went from "really fun to be with" to "never will see you again". The "new" gringos out here are messing up the prices but especially all the girl's attitudes.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2602875]More outfall from COVID, just like the Delta variant, we now have a new strain of street walkers roaming around "ground zero" in El Centro. [/QUOTE]AbsolutelyFuckinFascinating!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2602869]...If instead of money it's food and drinks, or flowers, or just a few insincere compliments, it's the same thing, we trade something for something else because we feel we're getting the best end of the deal.

Of course, simplifying it makes it more complicated. In the exchange you have to figure out what the other person expects to get in return for spreading her legs.[/QUOTE]Indeed, simple and logical. The bottom line is that we are almost always trading something for something else. In our case, it is money for a piece of ass.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2602963]In the words of the Sosua, Costa Rica, Panama and other crews that are moving in to fuck things up: "It is only $5! I am not going to ruin the mood by haggling over that."[/QUOTE]Tru that. I am seeing The Law of Supply and Demand express itself in pure form. I was there today and three times straight up the girls without hesitation quoted me a rate of 40 mil. The room rates seemed to be changing and increasing as the day went by but I couldn't tell for sure because of the incidentals and the last room I had two girls and I was high like I am now and it got confusing. One thing I was not confused about is I had one of the greatest fucking days I ever had in El Centro. If I don't pass out later I will try to post including some photos but Scarlett is already here and that new girl wants to come back and I already gave the go-ahead. She's here. Back to the salt mines, jajaja.

[QUOTE=CollegeKidJay;2602680]
So with that. I am once again asking for your wisdom and mongering-support, ISG, in my time of need for support and advice on what the fuck to do because I don't have any idea of where to go, where to party, what are the nightclub girls like, where the good strip clubs are or casas. Am I missing anything. I'll probably be getting VIP tables at clubs and trying to live lavish for these 10 days so I assume will put a fat ass target on me -- so I give myself a medium-high probability of getting robbed but I've got an old shitter iphone on me as a dud so I'll rock the two phones gang in case that does happen. I'll be in Poblado / Laurales mainly; I'm not not dumb enough to wander El Centro at night on a solo trip so I'll probably go sightseeing during the day at least once. If I make it back alive, or once my ransom is paid off I'll report back and let you know how this shit pans out.[/QUOTE]Every once in a while there is a post like this from a Greengo like you. For the few that bother to report back it's a big let down and the analysis starts. Save yourself the trouble, RTFF and set you expectations reasonably, plan well, no dar pappaya and ask here for any specific advise after you do all that. If you are in any doubt, read the CTG thread as there was a similar experience from a dubliner who had a crappy experience. Wise up, there is time yet.

El Central was smokin, hot chicas and preggos easily found, natural girls, nice girls, no crimes. I've given up trying to figure out how this shit happens over and over and better and again. This point after a great day going there was nothing on the agenda but when I went home Scarlet in her brain made of Fairly recent made a recurrent Encore visit and like second go-round soften are turned out to be much much better. Scarlett had to go home to take her brother and the new girl who haven't named yet asked if she could spend the night and I said sure but we were so sexually exhausted and fulfilled after that are 3-way which including one new position I had never done before that everyone decided to crawl in their own bed and recover at the end of the night. I'm supposed to meet soft swirl in Bello again tomorrow she canceled last time go to babysitter I had just gotten a covid vaccine shot and she said she's bringing to the girls with her I don't know what the f* is up but like I said, why ask why? Hahjaja this s* is insane I'm doing it all on a Samsung phone I'm starting to want my computer laptop back it sounds wonky but I like it. The photos won't post but I'll add them later they're good.

[QUOTE=RedWaters44;2602937]Personally, Medellin wouldn't be my first pick as a noob. It is probably the best destination with arguably the most fun forum, but it's just not very noob friendly.[/QUOTE]Medellin to a mongering newbie is like putting a deluxe smorgasbord buffet in front of a starving man.

Nice to hear that we are one of the rockinnest forums on this website.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2602865]All this talk about Colombian chicas (pro or non-pro, GFE, honesty, puta or not, scams, pesos, looks and beauty factor, dating or friendships or love, blah blah blah, etc) is solely subjective and usually based on one persons perspective and experience so lets keep it real guys.

Here are the guidelines at it's core. Some of these bullet points took me decades to truly understand and appreciate as I have been traveling to Colombia for 25 plus years and now living almost 8 years in Medellin.

If your a know it all or are simply too hard headed then stop reading now and take another 5, 10 or like some guys I know 15 years then after you wise up return to this post and re-read these bullet points:

1. Take nothing and nobody serious..[/QUOTE]Good stuff Keep On Keepin' On.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2602908]I have given someone money without having sex with her (whether that means just hanging out with her or just kissing or just groping. Anything below actual sexual intercourse). Most of the girls I know in Medellin are poor. If I was with a girl who had a great job or who came from strata 5, then I probably would not offer her money.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that made it clear. I gave them some money too and most I don't have desire to ever have sex with them.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2602954]I would agree with that, but I also think a lot of the problem is the guys bragging about banging on the cheap are not honest about the quality of the women. What is missed in all that is the people who have lived in Colombia have told me that they have not seen the mythical 10 in Centro or Santa Fe. The best they have seen is like an 8....[/QUOTE]I think it is a mistake to think they don't care about quality. They just focus on different quality. I am in Sao Paulo now. Been to Scandallo several times，it is a let down quality wise in look initially but I have a great time once I get pass that.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2602954]I also think a lot of the problem is the guys bragging about banging on the cheap are not honest about the quality of the women.

I posted that I fucked a 10 from seeking / SA named Kiara in my hotel and showed a picture of her.

The common thread of the guys bragging about how little they paid is that their women are stunning, the greatest in bed, but they rarely show pics of said women. Gee, I wonder why.[/QUOTE]Your arguement can be shitted on very easily. Go down to New Life where the rate is 45,000 and tell me all the chicks are starfish dogs. Then go down to Luna Lunera where the rate is 300,000 and tell me all the chicks are beauty queens that fucked like porno stars. If this is not the case then we can easily conclude that how much you pay does not coincide with how the girl looks or her performance as a hooker (as you put it the quality of the women).

Guys like PN and Osteo have shown 1 million pics that they took themselves of the chicks in their reports that they have banged on the cheap. I have posted some as well. If I recall correctly, the time that you posted pictures, all of them were from a website or whatsapp, but none that you had taken yourself. There is a guy in another thread that posts everyday about having 5 chicks come over, yet everytime he posts a picture it is from some website and like only 1 time of these supposed chicks actually at his place crowded around a bottle of liquor. Not saying this has anything to do with whether y'all fucked the actually chicks, but one has to wonder why you guys have not been able to take a normal picture of these chicks when you were with them.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2603102]Your arguement can be shitted on very easily. Go down to New Life where the rate is 45,000 and tell me all the chicks are starfish dogs. Then go down to Luna Lunera where the rate is 300,000 and tell me all the chicks are beauty queens that fucked like porno stars. If this is not the case then we can easily conclude that how much you pay does not coincide with how the girl looks or her performance as a hooker (as you put it the quality of the women).

Guys like PN and Osteo have shown 1 million pics that they took themselves of the chicks in their reports that they have banged on the cheap. I have posted some as well. If I recall correctly, the time that you posted pictures, all of them were from a website or whatsapp, but none that you had taken yourself. There is a guy in another thread that posts everyday about having 5 chicks come over, yet everytime he posts a picture it is from some website and like only 1 time of these supposed chicks actually at his place crowded around a bottle of liquor. Not saying this has anything to do with whether y'all fucked the actually chicks, but one has to wonder why you guys have not been able to take a normal picture of these chicks when you were with them.[/QUOTE]I agree. Had a girl from SA paid her 250,000 for OK sex, looks were ok would say 8. After that, First time my friend took me to New Life and I was like a kid in Toys are Us. 25 stunning girls, curvy body for just 45000 for 30 minutes. Believe me, I have to drink a beer to calm myself before I took one to the room. Well I am not saying the it was GF experience in the room, but still sex with CBJ.

Anyone planning Medellin during end of October or November. Its boring to be alone in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2602954]...The thing about the culture here that I cannot stand is that everyone is focused on how much money versus the value of the experience....[/QUOTE]In pursuing our hobby gents must be cognizant of the fact that some mongers are less financially empowered than others. Indeed some guys can spend $50 in the same manner that others spend $5. However, that does not give blokes the right to spend freely just because they could afford it. One has to be mindful of mongers who do not have the wherewithal to spend as freely and try not to alter the market to their detriment. In other words, be compassionate. Be your brothers' keeper. I'm just putting into words what many do not want to say.

In your experiences / opinions what is the safest way to fuck fb girls, agency girls, or any independent girls after dark?

Options are as follows but there definitely may be others, please inform. I'm not on a budget per-say but I am trying to maximize my mongering funds with respect to safety. My current plan is to have my actual hotel in Poblado or Parque Lleras.

1. Invite her to your room in a guest friendly hotel with ID check-in. Does the ID check-in significantly reduce / eliminate the chances of being robbed / drugged in your own room? I've essentially crossed-out airbnbs and apartments for safety reasons.

2. Arrange the date at a love motel. From my research the love motels are all in el centro (is this true?) so I'the cab between there and my actual hotel. I know the love motels are usually short-term but is it practical to do an overnight here?

3. Book a separate hotel entirely. To reduce cost it would probably be in el centro and I wouldn't leave the hotel until morning.

At night, I assume the only other safe mongering option is strip clubs if I cab back and forth.

Thanks for any help!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2603102]Your arguement can be shitted on very easily. Go down to New Life where the rate is 45,000 and tell me all the chicks are starfish dogs. Then go down to Luna Lunera where the rate is 300,000 and tell me all the chicks are beauty queens that fucked like porno stars. If this is not the case then we can easily conclude that how much you pay does not coincide with how the girl looks or her performance as a hooker (as you put it the quality of the women).

Guys like PN and Osteo have shown 1 million pics that they took themselves of the chicks in their reports that they have banged on the cheap. I have posted some as well. If I recall correctly, the time that you posted pictures, all of them were from a website or whatsapp, but none that you had taken yourself. There is a guy in another thread that posts everyday about having 5 chicks come over, yet everytime he posts a picture it is from some website and like only 1 time of these supposed chicks actually at his place crowded around a bottle of liquor. Not saying this has anything to do with whether y'all fucked the actually chicks, but one has to wonder why you guys have not been able to take a normal picture of these chicks when you were with them.[/QUOTE]The putas "problems though were that her attitude was like a 2 and performance was like a 6".

What is that worth to you?

What is that worth to anyone?

Flying to Medellin tomorrow, can't wait. Will stick to Parque Lleras tomorrow then go to El Centro on Monday.

Osteoknot or Surfer if either of you is going to be around El Centro anytime from Monday during the next few weeks, would love to buy you a few drinks to say thanks for your reports.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2603125]In pursuing our hobby gents must be cognizant of the fact that some mongers are less financially empowered than others. Indeed some guys can spend $50 in the same manner that others spend $5. However, that does not give blokes the right to spend freely just because they could afford it. One has to be mindful of mongers who do not have the wherewithal to spend as freely and try not to alter the market to their detriment. In other words, be compassionate. Be your brothers' keeper. I'm just putting into words what many do not want to say.[/QUOTE]I agree with this sentiment. And it's for a few reasons. The splash the cash types just think very superficially. It's nothing for me, and I can cut in line and get the best in my limited time. That's not a great way to operate in the mongering world. In mongering intel is nearly as valuable as cash. The stories these chicas tell, esp. to those like Tall man that have woven themselves into the fabric of the city is just plain funny. They do try to warn the mongers on the board but some just don't and won't take heed to their own detriment.

Firstly, if it were not for some value conscious mongers, willingly sharing their intel, I would perhaps not even have discovered Medellin. So once I land to use the wallet to advantage yourself is not in great form. In fact if a monger refers a chica to me, I always ask what is a reasonable price so I know. Secondly, the locals are just not as able to afford the prices we pay, and although they do have home court advantage, the dollar power and what we earn for our time is perhaps an order of magnitude different. Paying near the market rate is being respectful of the local market. Not doing so stokes envy and resentment. I have had more than one convo with local taxi drivers etc. where they talk negatively about the stereotypical weekend warriors.
As an example of how we are clueless about affordability, last month, I was out with my chica and was speaking about how the crepes and waffles ice cream was so good and so cheap. I paid like 4.5mil I think at Santa Fe mall and remember being surprised at the price. In my mind that waffle cone would have been like $5-6 easily back home. She told me that was not cheap. I asked her what a normal ice cream cone costs in her barrio and she said 2mil at most. That was a eye opener for me, even as someone with the mindset to not overspend.
Finally a couple of self serving reasons, the no dar papaya mantra extends beyond bling, it also pertains to not splashing too much cash that can make you a target. Scammers less likely to go after an average target. As a gringo with limited to no Spanish you are already a juicy one, no need to add to that. Lastly and this maybe entirely subjective, but past a certain point in price, I have found a negative correlation between price and service. Money can tempt a girl to come to you buy it can't and won't make her feel like hanging out with you. That depends more on how you are treating her, how comfortable she is with you, and whether she is enjoying herself with you. So if you were paying 150 mil with a girl, and the decision was what to do with he other 150 mil. I personally get more out of spending it on a date with the chica, dinner, movies, dancing or whatever than giving her the 300 mil. I think Osteo said it and the more I thought about it the more I realized it's true, the first date is seldom ever the best one, it's the 3rd and 4th by the time you are getting the best sex. And for me that has meant subsequent trips. I always mix in atleast a couple of new girls to refresh the stack for this reason. My old regulars are however the ones with whom I have the predictably good sex.

Anyone have anymore details about this incident? Popped up on FB, Says he was found dead in a hotel. I cannot find a well written story about it. Says he was missing for few days? He could not have been dead that long. He was traveling with friends so it doesn't make sense that he did not contact them for days. Sounds shady as fuck. Like how did the people get into his hotel? Etc etc?

[URL]https://bronx.news12.com/bronx-native-found-dead-in-colombia-family-tried-to-convince-him-to-stay?fbclid=IwAR1mJD438C12eOK7CLN6Ph_JOtncCA_LY15vpx9kURGuipNoYhd4FWAZtP8[/URL]

According to this Spanish language article his body showed signs of a violent struggle.

[URL]https://www.somosfan.com/crimen/felix-jose-almanzar-medellin/79314/[/URL]

What has surprised everyone is chi as and there honesty. I always get an honest answer. Ask my chica yesterday how may you work with she was honest, you in drugs. Yep. You high right now. Yep LOL. Waiting on bustam.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2602963]In the words of the Sosua, Costa Rica, Panama and other crews that are moving in to fuck things up: "It is only $5! I am not going to ruin the mood by haggling over that."[/QUOTE]Nobody is moving into El Centro to fuck things up, the existing SW's are being corrupted by all the newbie Colombian mongers overpaying. And to put things in perspective, $ 5 USD may be chump change to you and I, but for a Colombian that's almost 20,000 COP which is not chump change.

This is Colombia, not any of the other Countries you listed so we have to think in Colombian Pesos and their value in Colombia, not USD. And when a Chica throws out a wildly inflated price almost double to a newbie Colombian monger, and he accepts it, guess what, news of this travels like wildfire between the walkers and hence that is what I have been noticing as to what has been occurring. I posted about a candy girl the other day quoting me 50 K, when up until about six months ago before the invasion of the newbie mongers, it was typically 20 K.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2602875]More outfall from COVID, just like the Delta variant, we now have a new strain of street walkers roaming around "ground zero" in El Centro.

Up until six months ago there where very few street walkers that where actively looking for gringos, which I'm going to label "gringo hunters", and they are becoming more and more prevalent as a result of mongers paying double, triple, and more than what the locals pay.

Unfortunately with Asia being shut down, I am seeing boatloads of mongers who normally would frequent Thailand and the Philippines showing up in El Centro and upsetting the apple cart.

And lots of these mongers have been over paying, and as a result the girls are now asking for way more money when dealing with a gringo.

The "gringo hunters" are very aggressive, and when they spot a gringo, they give them the google eye, come up to them, and shake their booty around which typically they would not do with a local.

Case in point, and this truly illustrates how bad it is. I at times when I see a candy girl of interest will approach them, hand them 500 Pesos, grab whatever is in the bag, and check the merchandise out. Typically these girls all go to the room and I am usually quoted 20-30 k. Yesterday I saw a candy girl of interest, handed her 500 Pesos, and she asked if I wanted to go to the room and when I asked how much she said 50,000 COP. I was shocked, I laughed at her, told her I wasn't a fool, and good luck and walked way. This candy girl was not actively looking for a gringo, but thru the grapevine the street walkers are aware that the gringos are overpaying and trying to get in on the bounty..[/QUOTE]I'm going to Medellin in November and I don't want to overpay. I'm more a cheap Charlie and interested in the Centro Girls.

So I'm interested in how much should I pay on average for an average Chica ST in Centro? 30 k?

How much should I pay for extras like BBBJ, BBFS, second round?

I (and I'm sure also others) would like to hear your advice on that. So that I can keep to these prices when I'm there.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2603125]In pursuing our hobby gents must be cognizant of the fact that some mongers are less financially empowered than others. Indeed some guys can spend $50 in the same manner that others spend $5. However, that does not give blokes the right to spend freely just because they could afford it. One has to be mindful of mongers who do not have the wherewithal to spend as freely and try not to alter the market to their detriment. In other words, be compassionate. Be your brothers' keeper. I'm just putting into words what many do not want to say.[/QUOTE]You're talking about "rights"? It's a free World. One has the right to pay whatever they want.

Also the vast majority of fellow mongers I've met could afford to give each girl 1 Million pesos or more. Just like they could afford to pay a car dealer sticker + $10,000. I'm not saying that would be a good idea. It wouldn't, and I personally try to not to overpay for multiple reasons.

Of course, mongers that don't want the unknowledgeable hobbyists to ruin a location have the "right" not to share what they know.

There's very little correlation between a monger's wealth and what he pays the chicas. The correlation (negative) is how experienced they are in this hobby.

"Slim. " Homage to Lauren Bacall. I'm trying to repost photos that wouldn't upload last night. Check out the puta I accidentally caught in the left side of the frame in the pharmacy photo, totally at random she's gorgeous and she has my shoes on, jajaja. Yeah I like to post photos that's obvious but I hope it's just as obvious that I'm skimming the mountaintops because when they really good shit gets going down no one is stopping to reach for a camera, it's too much of a distraction at that point basically you get the Prelude and the Afterglow, jaja.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2602865]All this talk about Colombian chicas (pro or non-pro, GFE, honesty, puta or not, scams, pesos, looks and beauty factor, dating or friendships or love, blah blah blah, etc) is solely subjective and usually based on one persons perspective and experience so lets keep it real guys.

Here are the guidelines at it's core. Some of these bullet points took me decades to truly understand and appreciate as I have been traveling to Colombia for 25 plus years and now living almost 8 years in Medellin.

If your a know it all or are simply too hard headed then stop reading now and take another 5, 10 or like some guys I know 15 years then after you wise up return to this post and re-read these bullet points

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Your report most definitely belongs in the category for reports of distinction in my book.

I haven't lived here as long as you, yet can totally relate to what your saying based on my personal experiences here over the past five years.

Unfortunately, with the exception of a handful of board members, most of the guidelines you have provide will fall on deaf ears.

Some of your bullet points are very abstract in a sense, with the culture being so different, and at times I say to myself, how can that be, but it is.

Totally mind boggling the culture here as it defies logic.

[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2603145]In your experiences / opinions what is the safest way to fuck fb girls, agency girls, or any independent girls after dark?

Options are as follows but there definitely may be others, please inform. I'm not on a budget per-say but I am trying to maximize my mongering funds with respect to safety. My current plan is to have my actual hotel in Poblado or Parque Lleras.[/QUOTE]Do you speak any Spanish at all? You won't be "maximizing" your funds by staying in Poblado. Everything there is more expensive. Hotels, food, taxi fares, girls will elevate their price for people staying there" and on top of everything else the traffice from the Northern regions (like Bello) will be a lot longer so you will be waiting more on top of everything else. Try Laureles would be my recommendation.

[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2603145]1. Invite her to your room in a guest friendly hotel with ID check-in. Does the ID check-in significantly reduce / eliminate the chances of being robbed / drugged in your own room? I've essentially crossed-out airbnbs and apartments for safety reasons.[/QUOTE]Yes if the hotel / apartment takes her ID information (like they do at San Peter or Hotel Dorado) then the girl is essentially on notice that if anything bad happens her information will be passed on to the police. I've never heard of a attack / drugging incident at a hotel that takes their ID information and records / saves it.

[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2603145]2. Arrange the date at a love motel. From my research the love motels are all in el centro (is this true?) so I'the cab between there and my actual hotel. I know the love motels are usually short-term but is it practical to do an overnight here?[/QUOTE]Absolutely you can go to a short term hotel. And no they are not all in el centro. They are all over. You could try Thematic Luxury on Calle 33 or Thematic on Calle 51. The advantage is that you will be electronically locked in the room and won't be able to leave until they check the mini-bar and the guy calls the desk to initiate the exit. So no girl is going to drug you if she can't get out of the room. You will pay an extra 50-60 mil for using Thematic and that is for 4 hours. I don't know what you will pay for overnight.

[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2603145]3. Book a separate hotel entirely. To reduce cost it would probably be in el centro and I wouldn't leave the hotel until morning.

At night, I assume the only other safe mongering option is strip clubs if I cab back and forth.

Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]You can do that too (rent another room in el centro) other options are to go to some of the casas they are all over the place. El centro, Laureles, Belen.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2603155]Anyone have anymore details about this incident? Popped up on FB, Says he was found dead in a hotel. I cannot find a well written story about it. Says he was missing for few days? He could not have been dead that long. He was traveling with friends so it doesn't make sense that he did not contact them for days. Sounds shady as fuck. Like how did the people get into his hotel? Etc etc?

[URL]https://bronx.news12.com/bronx-native-found-dead-in-colombia-family-tried-to-convince-him-to-stay?fbclid=IwAR1mJD438C12eOK7CLN6Ph_JOtncCA_LY15vpx9kURGuipNoYhd4FWAZtP8[/URL]

According to this Spanish language article his body showed signs of a violent struggle.

[URL]https://www.somosfan.com/crimen/felix-jose-almanzar-medellin/79314/[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw that same post on FB as you, sad to watch the parents back in New York, really sad for them.

Yes something is amiss with the story. Not much details on the surrounding story so probably another 'weekend warrior" gringo dude with a Bronx NY tough guy attitude comes down to play with the putas, do drugs, drink like a sailor on leave and thinks that bad shit can't happen to him, he was wrong.

RIP.

The Tall Man.

[URL]https://youtu.be/KdaRQkbySq4?t=436[/URL]

Is this the pregnant chick you all been hunting for? Hahaha.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2602986]Tru that. I am seeing The Law of Supply and Demand express itself in pure form. I was there today and three times straight up the girls without hesitation quoted me a rate of 40 mil.[/QUOTE]It's not a "supply and demand" issue, but a corruption of the existing Chicas as a result of the newbie mongers overpaying the girls. Case in point, six months ago before the Country really opened back up, the "rack rate" for lack of a better term was typically 30 mil, but now according to your own account, you got quoted 40 mil.

So what has happened in the last six months to change the pricing?

All the mongers who would typically be in Asia are showing up here, and being newbies, are overpaying.

And it's that simple.

I look forward to when Asia truly opens back up, and will be one of the first one's there. And when this happens, mongering in Medellin will go thru another cycle of changes. With fewer mongers here, prices will drop, no different than earlier this year when there were very few mongers here and a total buyers market.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2602969] The "new" gringos out here are messing up the prices but especially all the girl's attitudes.[/QUOTE]Your right on the mark here.

And God forbid if the Chicas whip out the Tijuana playback and start quoting 20 minutes, 2 positions, and pants off only for 40 K.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2603198]"Slim. Check out the puta I accidentally caught in the left side of the frame in the pharmacy photo, totally at random she's gorgeous and she has my shoes on.[/QUOTE]What makes you think or call her a puta? Is every girl you see a puta? Just curious. One way to find out though and why didn't you do it since you are so good at puta hunting?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2603208]It's not a "supply and demand" issue, but a corruption of the existing Chicas as a result of the newbie mongers overpaying the girls. Case in point, six months ago before the Country really opened back up, the "rack rate" for lack of a better term was typically 30 mil, but now according to your own account, you got quoted 40 mil.

So what has happened in the last six months to change the pricing?

All the mongers who would typically be in Asia are showing up here, and being newbies, are overpaying.

And it's that simple.

I look forward to when Asia truly opens back up, and will be one of the first one's there. And when this happ6ens, mongering in Medellin will go thru another cycle of changes. With fewer mongers here, prices will drop, no different than earlier this year when there were very few mongers here and a total buyers market.[/QUOTE]I love it when people agree with me and don't even know it. What you described was price depression during a time when supply exceeded demand and now that demand is putting pressure on supply-side, prices are going up. The only argument you can make is whether or not this is a free market, which not one mongering soul here has ever done.

Talk to me about barriers of entry for putas entering the market or leaving the market or the number of Gringos that are coming in on jet planes or the inelasticity of the market which would actually be a valid point, or that regulations and laws are setting price controls, but otherwise all you're doing is making my point for me and obfuscating the terms.

Thanks for your help, whether intentional or not. Your corruption argument is based on emotion and projection which has nothing to do with price. I said it I don't know how many times here I don't know why no one seems to understand it, the price you pay has nothing to do with setting the price in a free market. Convince me this is not a free-market but nobody has even broached that subject, as I already said above.

I'm not an economist it's not even in my wheelhouse all I did was take a master's-level course 25 years ago and now I'm regurgitating Economics 101. I can't believe there's not one expert on this entire board who can back me up or explain it better than me because obviously I'm doing a lousy job. Somebody help me or at least frame the argument properly. Geez, I'm headed back down to El Centro to do something fun.

It's okay to not be a subject matter expert on every goddamn thing that has to do with anything with Medellin, no one is.

Definitely time for a random gratuitous photo, jaja.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2603198]"Slim. " Homage to Lauren Bacall. I'm trying to repost photos that wouldn't upload last night. Check out the puta I accidentally caught in the left side of the frame in the pharmacy photo, totally at random she's gorgeous and she has my shoes on, jajaja. Yeah I like to post photos that's obvious but I hope it's just as obvious that I'm skimming the mountaintops because when they really good shit gets going down no one is stopping to reach for a camera, it's too much of a distraction at that point basically you get the Prelude and the Afterglow, jaja.[/QUOTE]So let's cut to the chase on this and your foray into Centro.

Looks like you had a female Humpty Dumpty with you in the room for a rato.

How was it, any afterglow after doing the deed with her. LOL.

She wasn't a bareback cream pie girl was she?

If so, I'm going to have to keep an eye out for that one, just my cup of tea! LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2603102]Your arguement can be shitted on very easily. Go down to New Life where the rate is 45,000 and tell me all the chicks are starfish dogs. Then go down to Luna Lunera where the rate is 300,000 and tell me all the chicks are beauty queens that fucked like porno stars. If this is not the case then we can easily conclude that how much you pay does not coincide with how the girl looks or her performance as a hooker (as you put it the quality of the women).[/QUOTE]What does that have to do with the men being honest here? You are doing your typical rallying cry against a straw man. I have never said money and quality always correlate. In fact, I have said that Alejandra in Santa Fe blew away Kiara for a 1/3 the price.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2603102]If I recall correctly, the time that you posted pictures, all of them were from a website or whatsapp, but none that you had taken yourself. [/QUOTE]So what? She could be totally fake and my point still stands. On the forum I said that I paid a chick like this $100 and people said I overpaid on the public forum but by PM, guys were hitting me up for her number. It is about the honesty of the men on the forum.

The pricing on here is pretty good when it comes to places like clubs and casas where the prices are fixed, but they were terrible when I first went to Santa Fe. I wanted to know what I was doing wrong, and I talked to a local, and he said that what I was seeing and doing was the same as him. I could fuck women on the cheap like guys here brag about in SF as long as I was willing to forget about looks and fuck in a shitty hotel.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2603194]I'm going to Medellin in November and I don't want to overpay. I'm more a cheap Charlie and interested in the Centro Girls.

So I'm interested in how much should I pay on average for an average Chica ST in Centro? 30 k?

How much should I pay for extras like BBBJ, BBFS, second round?

I (and I'm sure also others) would like to hear your advice on that. So that I can keep to these prices when I'm there.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if any one is interested in my advice, but I will take a shot at it and I know others can better articulate my thoughts on this.

You should not have the mindset of over-paying as this may limit you.

Mongering in Centro is not like other mongering destinations in the World where there are set prices and menus more or less.

In essence, consider mongering in El Centro like the Wild West.

Anything goes, and most of the time all that your asking about is available for a price.

However, what one guy pays a Chica for the services you mentioned, another guy may pay a lot more for or a lot less.

Depends on a lot of factors with lots of variables.

There's been a lot of changes as of lately in El Centro, with the biggest change over the past four years with the onslaught of Venezuelans, and now the onslaught of mongers as a result of the Pandemic.

Pricing for basic covered service should range from as low as 20 K for a very undesirable Chica up to say 40 K for something much better, however six months ago it would of been more like 30 K.

I know of guys in Centro who are getting the 'full monty" for as low as 50 K, and some guys paying a lot more than this.

Again, think in terms of the Wild West in Centro.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Silvakeviniam;2603145]In your experiences / opinions what is the safest way to fuck fb girls, agency girls, or any independent girls after dark?

Options are as follows but there definitely may be others, please inform. I'm not on a budget per-say but I am trying to maximize my mongering funds with respect to safety. My current plan is to have my actual hotel in Poblado or Parque Lleras.

1. Invite her to your room in a guest friendly hotel with ID check-in. Does the ID check-in significantly reduce / eliminate the chances of being robbed / drugged in your own room? I've essentially crossed-out airbnbs and apartments for safety reasons.

2. Arrange the date at a love motel. From my research the love motels are all in el centro (is this true?) so I'the cab between there and my actual hotel. I know the love motels are usually short-term but is it practical to do an overnight here?

3. Book a separate hotel entirely. To reduce cost it would probably be in el centro and I wouldn't leave the hotel until morning.

At night, I assume the only other safe mongering option is strip clubs if I cab back and forth.

Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]Your question is about safely doing outcall girls but you keep mentioning El Centro. If you are doing Outcall girls then just forget about El Centro. If you want to mix in street walkers than by all means go to El Centro but to your basic question what is the safest way to do outcall and FB girls. You covered that in number one. Stay in a reputable building with professional security to check their Cedual (ID) when they come to the building. I am a lazy ass monger period. Last trip I went down to El Centro one time, Parque Lleras a couple of times but I mostly stayed in my apartment and messaged the chicas to come to me and ordered Rappi to eat as much as I went out to eat.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2603203]I saw that same post on FB as you, sad to watch the parents back in New York, really sad for them.

Yes something is amiss with the story. Not much details on the surrounding story so probably another 'weekend warrior" gringo dude with a Bronx NY tough guy attitude comes down to play with the putas, do drugs, drink like a sailor on leave and thinks that bad shit can't happen to him, he was wrong.

RIP.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]The story says that he went down there with friends and his girlfriend but had an arguement with his girl and wondered off on his own (which makes you wonder if he didn't plan to argue with his girl so he could go find some strange) but the part where he was missing for some days is the part that makes no sense. If he had gone hundreds of there with a bunch of friends who were there too to celebrate his birthday, surely he would not go days without contacting them. The part that bothered me the most was that he was killed in a hotel. That is the worst thing I have heard happen there. I wish I knew what hotel he was found in.

https://bronx.news12.com/bronx-native-found-dead-in-colombia-family-tried-to-convince-him-to-stay?fbclid=IwAR1mJD438C12eOK7CLN6Ph_JOtncCA_LY15vpx9kURGuipNoYhd4FWAZtP8
https://www.somosfan.com/crimen/felix-jose-almanzar-medellin/79314/

All taken within the last 24 hours.

Hit for a little over a week and stayed in Airbnb in Laureles about a 10 minute walk to Tantra and close to Floresta station. Same as always, cool weather, inexpensive, beautiful women. Some guys complaining about to many mongers but why decide to go to a less desirable place just because of that. Just stay of the beaten path a little and it keeps it to a minimum.

Hit Tantra 3 times. 80 k for 45 minutes. Always have been happy with Tantra but last time only about 3 girls so was concerned would eventually not see anything of interest. But now they seem to be back to 10 plus girls so usually 2 or 3 I find attractive. First time cute mature curvy blond. Very good service. 2nd cute girl with a lot of ink including a full back tattoo. Some reason I get nervous that heavy ink means bad attitude but this girl had a great attitude with very physical massage. 3rd time was going to repeat with her but not around so with with very good looking tall girl I think Nicole or something close to that. Thought with her good looks might be subpar but turned out best massage whole trip. Think Tantra is very committed to customer service.

Hit Zandaly 3 times. 80 k for 1 hour. 1st cute brunette with ink and sternum tattoo that was cool. Great service full hour. Went back 2 more times but did not see her again. 2nd time cute thin redhead with heavy ink who was there about 8 months before. She seems really mello walking back to room but once it's on will not stop till hour is up. Last time went with cute Negra but seemed to have least amount of Energy. Funny I said we can cut season short but it almost seems like girls get it trouble if they cut session short.

Was at Conejitas and was crowded and Vitamin V was kicking in so said F it Ill try Chico's Putos which had saved the day several years before after walking out of New Life one Sunday. Now has changed to Armona Spa. 70 k for 1 hour. Over 20 girls on a Friday about 7. Many not good looking but one very cute Vennie that had an Indian look to her. Great attitude and hit that twice. Went back once looking for another cute thin one that was covered in Ink but was not around. Much better to spend a lilttle extra for Zandaly but still a few cute ones if your in a pinch.

Went back to Conejitas since there was a few cute ones. Hit a cute Vennie with some curves to her. 100 k for 45 minutes. My Spanish isn't great so when I asked for change she looked dumbfounded. Mediocre service so will not repeat. Actually liked the artwork in room the best. Cool place if you want to have a few drinks a see a few cute girls along with some girls that could play in NFL.

Hit Casa Energy once. Cute older one with nice curves and good attitude. Funny she was making fun of how many of the other girls had a little extra meat on the bones. Still very nice selection for 140 k for 1 hour.

Also hit New Life once, good selection but just was not feeling it except for the girl that was running the show, should have asked if she was on the menu. Thought Tantra an Zandaly stood out for quality, price, and service.

Well, I really need to get back into the game. Been in the states for a few months, and before that in Mexico. Colombia is much better INHO. So I am here. Had myself a cute Vene and took here over to Nutbara. Its where I was staying.

I was super tired because I got in late and stayed out till the early morning hours.

Just had to get to find a girl there though. This girl calls herself Johana. After the dealing with the whole sex thing I took her out for a few beers. Welt to go find a cig and bam, here and her beer were both gone. I just enjoyed the company, I guess. I get it, she has to go back to work. Just wanted to show some respect. Super energetic. Wish I could have performed better. Went to Yakuza. Still there, it has changed a bit with newer girls. One was doable, but I was just too tired. I did get her number, Maybe its fake, don't know. Quoted 50 K A bit much for 30 minutes for me, but to each his own.

Total damage was 50 for an hour.

Ill be looking for that 16 COP place someone here was talking about. My plan is to get a place near Estadio or something like that. Need to check out somewhere I can find a furnished place.

Will try to upload Johanas pic.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2603222] What you described was price depression during a time when supply exceeded demand and now that demand is putting pressure on supply-side, prices are going up..[/QUOTE]This is exactly what's going on. Too many gringos around. Kick them out / close borders, and prices eventually will go down.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2603221]What makes you think or call her a puta? Is every girl you see a puta? Just curious. One way to find out though and why didn't you do it since you are so good at puta hunting?[/QUOTE]I was wondering if someone would make that call. Good job.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2603221]What makes you think or call her a puta? Is every girl you see a puta? Just curious. One way to find out though and why didn't you do it since you are so good at puta hunting?[/QUOTE]I was wondering if someone would make that call. Good job. And your response was more than "just curious."

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2603243]
So what? She could be totally fake and my point still stands. On the forum I said that I paid a chick like this $100 and people said I overpaid on the public forum but by PM, guys were hitting me up for her number. It is about the honesty of the men on the forum.[/QUOTE]This happens on both sides. It is a percentage. Some people agree with you, some don't. It is the same the other way around.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2603243] guys were hitting me up for her number. It is about the honesty of the men on the forum.[/QUOTE]Has anyone posted any report here to back you up on your point? I am not saying I don't believe you. Just so you see the problem if no one followed up with a report with picture taken themselves. I went to an outcall the other day. Her pictures were beautiful but I asked her for a normal picture without filter or makeup. She sent me one and she looks as good. I am still not totally sold so I asked for a video chat to confirm as her price is high. She said no but I can just leave if I don't like her. I went and was not disappointed. That is the problem with professional done pictures and no report. We basically rarely see reports of pictures about these elusive 10's or high price girls with the exception of Steve Jobs but many think he is not real. There are one or two mentioned but it's the same girls which also implies high mileage.

I am happy to pay for 10's with good service. The question is where do I find them? It should not be hard.

Some of us have seen more pictures and videos than what is posted on this site so we are pretty sure the mongers have a quality time and that has nothing to do with how much the monger spent.

[QUOTE=Finsfanfk;2603270]Hit for a little over a week and stayed in Airbnb in Laureles about a 10 minute walk to Tantra and close to Floresta station. Same as always, cool weather, inexpensive, beautiful women. Some guys complaining about to many mongers but why decide to go to a less desirable place just because of that. Just stay of the beaten path a little and it keeps it to a minimum.

Hit Tantra 3 times. 80 k for 45 minutes. Always have been happy with Tantra but last time only about 3 girls so was concerned would eventually not see anything of interest. But now they seem to be back to 10 plus girls so usually 2 or 3 I find attractive. First time cute mature curvy blond. Very good service. 2nd cute girl with a lot of ink including a full back tattoo. Some reason I get nervous that heavy ink means bad attitude but this girl had a great attitude with very physical massage. 3rd time was going to repeat with her but not around so with with very good looking tall girl I think Nicole or something close to that. Thought with her good looks might be subpar but turned out best massage whole trip. Think Tantra is very committed to customer service.

Hit Zandaly 3 times. 80 k for 1 hour. 1st cute brunette with ink and sternum tattoo that was cool. Great service full hour. Went back 2 more times but did not see her again. 2nd time cute thin redhead with heavy ink who was there about 8 months before. She seems really mello walking back to room but once it's on will not stop till hour is up. Last time went with cute Negra but seemed to have least amount of Energy. Funny I said we can cut season short but it almost seems like girls get it trouble if they cut session short..[/QUOTE]Good report. Thanks for the update.

Where exactly is Tantra located at? Can you also share any info on your airbnb and whether you were able to bring anyone? Was it GF friendly?

That cure Negra in Zandalay always smiles at the line up but is the only bad session I have experienced there. She needs to find another profession IMHO.

There was also a spinner paisa who worked there for the past couple of years, in July, I ran in to her at ammonia spa.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2603353] I went to an outcall[/QUOTE]Should be incall.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2603243]On the forum I said that I paid a chick like this $100 and people said I overpaid on the public forum but by PM, guys were hitting me up for her number. It is about the honesty of the men on the forum.[/QUOTE]This is saying nothing. On an anonymous website full of horny guys you do not need a picture for guys to hit you up for numbers. All you have to do is say you fucked someone and the vultures will flock. Really weird to me when guys do that. Just because I reported fucking and having a great time, they want in, not knowing whether the chick could be farther from what they find attractive.

Why would you not think guys are being honest in their posts? Maybe you are trying to conflate something as subjective as beauty with honesty, which in the case of beauty would be subjective as well and not absolute. I have hung out with tons of guys from this website. Do you know how many of them were proud to catch a chick that I would not fuck with your dick? They were honest in saying that they were 10's for them, not necessarily what would be 10's for me or you.

I don't read into it when guys write in their reports that a chick was hot or really horny or into it because who knows what their idea of these things are. Maybe you should take the same approach when guys write about fucking the best looking chicks on the planet for cheap.

When I go to a new place, I look for 3 things on ISG: where, when, and how much. I can take it from there and go to search out a chick that is to my personal taste along with adjusting the price. I am not basing my hunting on what other mongers think is attractive. I only look to them to point me in the direction of the pussy. I will work out the rest when I get there.

Thanks to all the contributors in the Medellin section and World Travel 69 (I'll refer to as WT 69). I came well prepared and am now giving back.

August 27th. Friday.

Flew out of Tijuana on Aeromexico and arrived in Medellin around midnight. About 8 hours of flying time with a 2 hour layover in Mexico City. I arrived at the Nutibara hotel around 1:30 AM paying 80 k pesos for a taxi.

Nutibara is an older hotel, historic in it's day, on one end of Plaza Botero in El Centro, (the downtown area). It's fairly basic and staff did not speak English, but it is in a good location for some tourist attractions and for street girls as well as many daytime casas.

Based on reports in this forum, I had some concerns about safety before coming. By day, I would say that the El Centro area is mostly safe and swarming with large numbers of locals. Plenty of people out and about even past night fall for a few hours. Still, in and around El Centro, there are many sketchy looking streets with homeless and trash and although I never witnessed any crime, I had taxi drivers warn me of the petty crime and to keep phones and valuables hidden from sight.

August 28th. Saturday.

Started exploring the local casas following WT 69's map. First stop Yukasa which is just behind the hotel. 4 or 5 girls working at 11 AM. None caught my interest. Seemed like kind of a low end place. Next I looked for Chicas punto com near by on Calle 54. Same location, phone number, and address but now it's called Armonia Spa. WT 69's map showed a Fantasias Erotic massage on the 3rd floor of the same building but that no longer exists.

Armonia Spa was a winner! About 10 chicas, 3 or 4 of which looked quite good to me. Prices were 50 k for half hour and 70 or 80 k for the hour. BBBJ and DFK were extra. My first choice would do BBBJ but was firm on no DFK. Moved on to choice 2. A smoking hot very shapely Venezuelan. Said she was 25 but I would have believed 20 or 22. Though she agreed to DFK that ended up being pretty weak. BBBJ was decent but no CIM. Total damages 100 k for 30 minutes. All in all I was feeling like I was off to a good Medellin start!

I'm a one shot and out kind of guy but I continued my casa tour for educational purposes. Next Stop Zandalay and I walked there in what seemed like not much more than 5 minutes. Same pricing as Armonia and for that matter all the other casas too. 50 k per half hour and 80 k for the hour. Chicas seemed slightly older than at Armonia but for 2 or 3 out of the 5, I might have pulled the trigger on if I wasn't already spent. Next stop was Amigas Sexy which had a nice setup and at least a couple doable chicas. Dulce Compania nearby was next. Only 3-4 available and very low end like Yukasa. Masajes Aife was next. 5 or 6 available and a couple looked alright.

Last stop was New Life. With all the good reviews I was expecting it would be a cut above and perhaps better than Armonia but that was not my impression. Overall I think New Life was over rated but that could be because not a lot was available when I was there either time I visited in late morning, (5-6) and or they had become too popular because this was the one club in which I heard Americans both times.

Around 8 PM Saturday night I hit Barra Ejecutiva close by based on the good reports from Tall Man and others. I liked it there. Talked to a few of the chicas and met most of them at least briefly as they came by to collect contributions after dancing center stage. No problem. I handed out 2 k peso bills like they were candy. (only about 50 cents).

There were about 10 girls in the bar who looked to range in age from 20 to 30. I talked to 2 or 3 of them with my basic Spanish and in general they gave off a more educated and classy vibe than I observed in other bars. Called it a night after that leaving around 9 PM and made the 2-3 minute walk back to the Nutibara. Didn't feel dangerous but I suppose there might have been some risk even though there were still plenty of people out and about.

August 29th. Sunday.

Took an 11 k peso (about 3 dollar), 20 minute taxi drive in the morning to Parque Lleras in Poblado. Was not expecting any action that time of day and didn't find any. But Poblado is a much better ambiance and tourist destination than Centro. Walked around a bit and then did about a 15 minute walk to the Poblado Metro station.

The Metro is an excellent, modern and cheap system although a bit crowded that day. It's about a 15 minute ride from Poblado back to Parque Berrio which is a short walk to Plaza Botero and my hotel but I kept going about 15 minutes more on the Metro to the Acevedo station and then took the Metro Cable gondola like system as it gained a lot of elevation to Santo Domingo where I got off. Was a great tourist activity.

Got back later that afternoon. Went out that evening and made the short walk over to the locations of street girls. The main street action is on both sides of the streets or alleys surrounding the block which has the Iglesia de la Veracruz.

Lots of run of the mill at best girls with a few quite doable ones mixed in. A few quite young looking. I was feeling rather wiped out and so decided to just see if I could collect a whatsapp number or two for the next day. Talked to a few with my basic Spanish. Pricing was the familiar 50 k for 30 minutes or 70-80 k for the hour with more for extras. Same as the casas.

I was looking for one with good looks AND a good vibe. The good vibe being much harder to come by. Talked to a few. Some would not do BBBJ. DFK was even tougher. But I found a good one! A Vennie, who agreed to everything. Looked pretty young and said she was 20. She was fairly slim but shapely. Kind of a typical mix of part black, part native, part white mix which I find quite appealing. Also had a very warm smiling personality. Exchanged whatsapp and set up a date for the next day.

August 30th. Monday.

Visited the nearby Museo de Antioquia featuring the works of Botero. Not a large museum but well worth the inexpensive entry price. Was expecting to get together by 12 or 1 pm with my new Vennie but as many have experienced, lateness and excuses for lateness is a real problem here. I was tempted to cancel a couple of times but she kept me on the hook skillfully and finally arrived at 3:30 PM coming straight to the hotel.

I didn't know if the Nutibara was girl friendly and didn't want to ask. Had her walk with me to the elevators but was caught. Fortunately it was no problem. She presented a Venezuelan cedula which the hotel exchanged for their own badge and that was good enough.

Started off great in the room. She was upbeat, sweet and smiling and acted as taken with me as I was with her. Then we ran in to some bumps in the road. She didn't like DFK she said! Even though she had previously agreed to it. However she was very good natured about it and did at least attempt it with my insistence a few times.

No one brought a condom. Damn! The BBBJ was very good but she just couldn't keep it up for very long at a stretch to finish that way except with too much help by hand. Odd to say, but it was still some of the best unskilled sex I'd had since college. A rather long time ago. LOL.

Invited her to dinner after that in Poblado. Excellent food and beer at some place I can't recall the name of. Talked a bit and walked around a bit. However, the evening was going down hill fast. She was on her phone a lot and was pretty light weight conversationally, not having anything interesting to respond to much of anything I said including topics about Venezuela! LOL. I decided to call it a night around 8 PM.

I then took a taxi back to the hotel alone happy to have her not come with, even though the original expectation in my mind was that she would. She decided to stay around Parque Lleras to get more business with her soon to be arriving friend. I know it's not my girl and just my turn but that still seemed like comically bad form as she was simultaneously trying to talk me in to more business the next day. I was non committal on that hiding behind my basic Spanish. Didn't really want to close the door quite yet on future sessions but I was clearly falling out of love.

I had already agreed to pay her 300 k earlier in the evening when things were going better. Seemed overly generous by the time we split up but I rationalized it by having spent so many hours together.

August 31st. Tuesday.

Took a Comuna 13 tour 10 am - 2 PM. $25 and I was the only one on the tour! Nice views of the city and I'the recommend it. Got lots of texts from my previous days Vennie during the tour wanting to get together again. I made excuses while politely pointing out the deficiencies in the previous night. She promised that the amor would be better than the first time! That's kind of a fun thing to hear from a female I must admit. LOL.

Instead of a repeat I made a casa run in the Laureles area. Looked for Dharma Massage fighting alot of bad traffic and a lost taxi driver. Did finally find the right building but I'm pretty sure it was closed and no answer at the listed number. Next stop was Eros Spa. Nice looking establishment on the third floor of an apartment building. Note to WT 69. The 322xxxx690 whatsapp number listed for Eros goes somewhere else.

As I sat in the waiting room, around 3:30 PM, girls were all called in and there were around 20! I made a joke as the last girls filed in. Es todo? (Is that all? Hard to focus with so many but the overall quality seemed Ok. 4-7 for the most part. I know 20 or more at once can be awkward but it's also a bit intoxicating and I think it gives the winner a better attitude knowing that she practically won the lottery. LOL.

One definitely stood out at least by my tastes. Another Venezuelan. On the tall side, great face and awesome long legs and shapely and curvy butt. She said she was 20 although I would have thought possible up to 25 and no kids. She agreed to BBBJ with just a 30 k up charge from the 70 k base charge for an hour. I think I forgot to ask about the DFK upfront.

In the room she wouldn't do more than just light kissing. Damn! This had become a recurring problem. On the other hand, the BBBJ was stellar and sloppy and regular sex was good too with lots of moaning sounds for that. If it was an acting job then it was at least a good one. LOL. Exchanged whatsapp as I thought it might be worth repeating.

Next stop, Spa Mariangel. Unfortunately, the taxi driver couldn't find it but via whatsapp the listed number on the map is for a Spa Mariangel in Barranquilla!

Next stop Luna Lunera. Only 5 chicas available but one very beautiful by my taste white girl with dark hair from Baranquilla. Looked like she could have been up to 30 but said she was just turning 25. Quoted only 120 k for the half hour and 200 k for the hour which is less than others have reported. I enquired if there would be more girls later as I left and they said yes there would be about 20 by 8 PM. That turned out be a lie as I found out on a later day.

Got back to the hotel late evening and checked out Conejitos and Grill Nueva Avenida close to the hotel. Tall man said these locations reminded him of Adelitas in Tijuana which I agree. You might be able to find something to your liking in these bars but maybe not too. Checked out the Hilton Grill next but it was mostly empty.

Then I continued north on carrera 53 and checked out 4 or 5 bars on both sides of the street with many chicas sitting alone and in groups and very few male customers. All of that visible without even walking in to any of the bars. Hat tip to Nil Admirari and his excellent reporting who noted the same thing or I probably wouldn't have ventured up this street. Girl quality was about as good or better as any of the better known clubs like Conejitos. Not great but you could definitely find a few to your liking.

I chatted with one nice looking one and pricing was the standard 50 k for half hour. Strange that no one outside of Nil has mentioned this area. Kind of thrilling to see bars with lots more available women than customers. If there's a catch as to why these bars are not more popular than the known ones like Conejitos I couldn't find it.

Sept. 1 - Wednesday.

Main activity of the day was checking out several locations on Avenida 33 on the WT 69 map down the street from Luna Lunera. I can report that the casas Samsara, Sala de masajes Erotico, Los Angeles and Kassandra are all closed.

After that took an Uber to Fantasias Energy. About 8 to 10 chicas available. I was quoted 140 k half hour and 210 k for an hour. Girls here looked mostly 25 to 30 and more dolled up and in some cases "siliconed up" than at Eros. It was a nicer overall set up and ambiance here than in any other casa I had visited. My first choice would not agree to BBBJ.

Second choice would agree but for an extra 100 k. Those prices are good by USA Standards but I had gotten use to better so I bargained. In the end I paid 110 k to the house for a half hour plus 90 k more to the girl for BBBJ and DFK.

I had chosen well. This girl was a 27 year old white paisa with no tatoos and a very pleasant mature personality. Excellent DFK and BBBJ. We finished fairly quickly and talked for several minutes afterward which was a nice touch.

Sept. 2 - Thursday.

Took an all day tour to Lake Guatape, the town by the same name, and Penal Rock which I hiked all 600 steps up. Highly recommended if you've got the time. Started at 7:30 AM and didn't get back to the hotel until 7:30 PM so a very long day with 2 hours each way in a tour bus. Cost was only $30 which included breakfast and lunch and a one hour boat ride. It was a steal and easily the highlight of all my tourist activities. When I got back to the Nutibara the hot water was out!

Sept. 3 - Friday.

Hot water still out on Friday morning and was projected to remain out for another day! I switched hotels to Laureles Plaza Hotel. A blessing in disguise as Laureles is a much nicer area than Centro. That afternoon went back to Eros Spa. This time I took the time to count the actual number in the line up. 21! Although the overall quality was not great, with such a high number I'm sure most guys could find one or two to their liking. I found one but it ended up being a ho hum session. 100 k damages including BBBJ.

Sept 4 - Saturday.

Tourist activity. Visited the very large Minorista fruit and vegetable market just to see it although I did not buy anything. Fruits and vegetables of all kinds here at very low prices compared to the USA Amazing. Then checked out the first Saturday of every month Parque Bolivar artisans market. Was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the various items for sale and bought a couple of unique souvenirs.

Saturday night I went back to club Luna Lunera but got there too early at 7:30 PM. Only 2 available chicas at the time. 20 more were promised by 8:00 PM which quickly proved to be a lie. By 9 PM there were still only 6-7 but practically no customers! Luna Lunera wanted 210 k for the half hour and 310 k for the hour so the prices had gone up a lot from the daytime quote. The beer selection was terrible and most all of the tables had a sign on them requiring you to buy a 150 k bottle in order to sit there! Your mileage may vary but all of these girls seemed a bit rough around the edges to me and I passed. By 11 PM I think the chica selection would have probably improved but I didn't wait around to find out.

After 9 PM went to a new club not far from my hotel. Table Dance Grill Club on Calle 44 #73-58. Whatsapp # +57 312xxxx432. Once again, almost no customers with 6 to 7 chicas. Quality was decent and better than Luna Lunera. Talked to one who wanted 180 k for 30 minutes and 250 k for the hour. But I passed since she was unwilling on the BBBJ. These night time clubs may be worth it but the real action doesn't seem to start until 11 PM.

Sept. 5 - Sunday.

Flew to Cartagena on a 2:25 PM flight. Flying time only 45 minutes. Then only a 20 minute ride from the airport to the Hotel Playa Club in Bocagrande.

Was hot and humid in Cartagena as expected. After settling in to my hotel room I made a walk to the beach in the late afternoon. Right behind the hotel on the beach side a couple of somewhat rough looking difficult to understand touts found me, offering to help me find anything I might need. I wasn't expecting much, but they came through in just minutes!

The chica they found for me was quite a pleasant sight. Curvy, medium height girl from Barranquilla. Her father she said was of pure white Spanish ancestry, and her mother was black.

She had blue eyes that were practically the same color as mine. Very unusual for her medium light black skin tone but they looked appropriate on her as her features were not very dark. She was very good looking in the face by my picky standards. Perhaps an 8. We sat down on beach chairs and the touts brought us a couple of beers which were "free" that I of course realized would become expensive later.

She said she was 26 which was believable but if she had said 20 that would have been believable too. Had graduated college with a Business degree. No tattoos. As we talked she stared in to my eyes with a very seductive gaze and a kind of upbeat classy demeanor. Wow!

For a girl of this quality I realized I was probably low balling when I offered her 200 k for an hour. She politely turned that down. Eventually we settled on 350 k pesos for one hour plus a 50 k propina if it was good. That included BBBJ and DFK which at first she said she wouldn't do. Some might think I'm ruining the local market paying these kind of prices but I'm sure I'm not. This was a special case.

I paid the touts 50 k for their "free" beer. And we were off to the hotel. I know I was taking a small chance by not checking her in at the front desk but we slipped by to my room no problem.

From there this fine looking Colombiana completely lived up to expectations with passionate DFK, BBBJ, regular sex with condom and even CIM! (which had not been discussed up front). Never discussed pictures up front either but got a few of those too even including a full body and face pic which I will cherish since it perfectly captured her personality and smile.

She said she had been making very respectable money as a web cam girl and so that's perhaps why she wasn't paranoid about face pics. However, she still told me not to share them.

After the hour was up we talked for another half hour. A chore for me at my level of Spanish but I mostly kept up. She mentioned that she also provided multi hour, all day and or including all night sessions for double or triple what I had just paid Not my thing and especially not at those prices but we exchanged whatsapp in any case.

In text messages we exchanged the next day she said she would be going to Delerium with a friend. Is this a pick up club? Didn't look like one online but maybe it's become one? Perhaps someone reading this can answer that question. S.

She left me that night with me thinking I'd go broke if what I just had was a typical mongering experience! LOL.

Sept. 6 - Monday.

Another tourism day. Went to the walled City in the early morning and gave myself a self guided 2-3 hour tour. Was not very crowded as I had feared. I'd recommend this activity if you like Spanish colonial towns. Afterwards, I needed the exercise so walked all the way back to the hotel. About 3 miles.

That afternoon I checked out the beach scene again and went for a swim in the nice warm water. Some touts found me again but I particularly searched out Tony and found him eventually. He wears a green #19 Jersey with the name Antonio on it and is overweight just as described.

I don't know if I was really required to pay him 20 k for my beach seats with umbrella but I did. He brought over 3 to 4 chicas a couple of which I'd rate as Ok but not great. One was asking for 300 k per hour although I think I could have probably gotten that down to 200 k. I don't know if the price was inflated by Tony. Tony must have given up on me after that and after no further introductions for 20 minutes, I left. I'm not sure why Tony is a legend but every other tout you meet on the beach calls himself Tony so he must be. LOL.

I was able to find chicas on my own more successfully and at better prices than with Tony's help. Of course that does require at least basic Spanish. A couple of beach chicas I found agreed to 150 k per hour including BBBJ. One chica in particular had a decent amount of appeal and I probably would have gone for it on another day. But I kept looking for something a little better and never found it. Nothing I found was nearly in the same league as on my first day.

Another tout found me in the later evening and convinced me to go to Casa Rosilla. Said there would be 20 fine women there and it was only 15 minutes away. That was all a lie. Taxi ride took over 30 minutes in heavy traffic and the driver dropped me and the tout off. When we got there there were only 2 women and that part of town, close to the cruise ships, was a bit scary looking too. One of the two available had some appeal but wanted 300 k for an hour and would not agree to BBBJ.

I cut my losses and decided to go back to the hotel as the whole situation was beginning to feel even a bit dangerous. Another long ride back to the hotel for 20 k during which time he tried to sell me on cocaine and other drugs but I wasn't about to take a chance on that. He acted pretty angry at my offer to give him 10 k for his trouble even though he deserved nothing and I was very happy to be rid of him for 20 k. I was an idiot, and should have realized not to accept anything "free" from anyone!

Probably should have gone to the clock tower that night but I knew the good action probably wouldn't start until after 10 PM and I had an early flight back to Medellin the next morning.

Sept. 7 - Tuesday.

Flight back to Medellin. Got back to my Laureles hotel at 1 PM. Managed to arrange a date at the hotel via whatsapp with the first Eros girl who had unexpectedly contacted me the day before. She promised DFK this time. 150 k for an hour plus taxi. She tried hard to get me to do a trio with her friend for an extra 100 k but I passed. Our 3 PM date ended up being at 4 PM which by local standards meant she had come an hour early! . LOL.

This girl ended up being somewhat of a surprise in her personality from what I had recalled from the first session. She was no longer working at Eros due to some problem in getting paid the explanation for which I couldn't understand and she was now independent.

Upon arrival she helped herself to mini bar snacks and to the coke in my mini fridge to use as a chaser for the bottle of rum she had brought. She encouraged me to do shots along with her as she turned up the Latin music on the TV too loud. Then she made a bad impression by asking for the money upfront. That's always a bad sign. I wisely declined to pay and she backed off on the request.

We got down to the main event at that point. The BBBJ and sex was was quite good once again but then the DFK was completely lacking in violation of the agreement! This is why I don't pay up front and would have been perfectly happy to end the date if she had insisted! Foolishly, I agreed to a propina for better DFK but not worth it as the DFK was still sub par. Still overall, a good session.

I gave her a 30 k propina and 50 k for the taxi as agreed for a total of 230 k. At that point she seemed to not have much desire to leave even beginning to roll a joint which she said was for the road. .

I was getting some pretty good Spanish lessons as the date went 45 minutes over. She complimented me with expressions I can't well translate but she also sensed correctly that the feeling was not entirely mutual. LOL. Funny how much gets communicated even in the absence of good language skills. Although she had a body to die for and looked attractive in the face too, I just prefer the demure types much more than the hard drinking and partying types.

Sept. 8th. Wednesday.

Had to attend to some remote work and personal issues for most of the day. That afternoon I walked down to Carrera 70, the main bar and restaurant area looking for some packaged coffee to bring back home. I ran in to a charming young vendor of postres toting around a large container and after turning down a postre asked her advice on how to find the packaged coffee I was looking for.

Quickly offered her a 2 k tip for being so helpful. One thing led to another and she accompanied me to a grocery store near by where I made the purchase. She was just a tremendous amount of fun to talk to and we were even laughing together.

We spent the next hour and a half or so talking while sipping coffee and a gaseosa, (soft drink), I told her I'd pay her 40 k to make up for the lost postre sales.

There seemed to be a hint of attraction in the air that was building, (or was it attraction to my money! Which eventually became unambiguous. Yes, I was not imaging this! Problem is that even though she had the body of a smoking hot 22 year old, she had the face of someone not necessarily even 18. Although she did claim to be 18.

But no cedula! Age of consent is pretty low in Colombia but there's more than one way for something like this to go south so I wisely passed. Damn!

Sept. 9th. Thursday.

Checked out the Pablo Escobar museum tour. Tour only lasted about an hour and a half. Was over priced at $46 but I did learn a little. More remote work that afternoon.

Sept. 10th Friday.

Caught my midnight flight back home through Mexico City. Flight took off on time and landed in Mexico City. Customs was a little slow and then the process of scanning baggage was very very slow and I missed my connecting flight!

What a mess! Reminded me of other Latin American experiences. Super slow hotel check ins even when there's no problems. Very slow service in restaurants and pharmacies even in the presence of large numbers of employees and few customers. I have to remind myself that I'm not in a hurry here! LOL.

My original connecting flight was at 6:30 am and the new one was at 11:30 am. I used the time to write more of this trip report. Made it back to Tijuana about 1 PM local time. No covid test required to then cross back in to the USA!

Couldn't get a straight answer out of Aeromexico or anyone else before hand so this was a relief when I finally crossed over without the negative covid test. The airport exists on both sides of the border and is set up to make crossing back in to the USA Easy!

Comparing Medellin to Bogota and Cali which I'd already visited, I'm not sure I have a strong preference for any one city over the other now. Bogota and Cali are better in that they don't have as many tourists. Medellin looks better as it sits in a scenic valley however the air quality and or haziness and cloudiness of the skies detracts from that.

I'd give the edge to Bogota in mongering quality for what you pay. The Bogota Santa Fe area beats the Medellin Centro area. Cali chicas treat you better as you're more of a novelty without so many tourists around, but not as much to do in Cali and the weather can be pretty hot.

I was tempted by the online prepagos. Just hard to pull the trigger on that without face pics which they would rarely provide. Facebook seemed possible although difficult since I did not want to provide much info or face pic in my own profile. Has anyone had success with using Tinder anonymously and without face pic profile?

In summary, I don't think you can go wrong anywhere in Colombia. Now I just need to figure out a way to spend more time down there!

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2603222]I love it when people agree with me and don't even know it. What you described was price depression during a time when supply exceeded demand and now that demand is putting pressure on supply-side, prices are going up. The only argument you can make is whether or not this is a free market, which not one mongering soul here has ever done..[/QUOTE]I'm not highly educated, but simply put in layman terms, and not in economic terms, prices have gone up as a result of newbie gringos overpaying.

Has nothing to do with supply and demand, because if the newbie gringos weren't overpaying, every thing would remain constant, with the prices not going up.

It's that simple.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2603262]All taken within the last 24 hours.[/QUOTE]Looks like Zona Rosa!

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2603262]All taken within the last 24 hours.[/QUOTE]Looks like you rented some rooms at Zona Rosa. If they had a customer rewards program, I would of earned a lot free stays there. I always tip the girls at the front desk. When I arrive with one of my skanks, they automatically go in the back and bring out another towel for me.

Hi,

I like to play Beachvolleyball and swim some lanes, what are the best places for that? I think the Estadio Sports Complex is one of that places, is it open? Any restrictions?

Is Medellin suitable for biking (at least the flat parts)?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2603240]So let's cut to the chase on this and your foray into Centro.

Looks like you had a female Humpty Dumpty with you in the room for a rato.

How was it, any afterglow after doing the deed with her. LOL.

She wasn't a bareback cream pie girl was she?

If so, I'm going to have to keep an eye out for that one, just my cup of tea! LOL.[/QUOTE]I think she might fall into the "diamond in a rough" category for an El Centro puta. The trick for her was I allowed her amiga of 10 years to come along and including in the room with us. I could tell she felt more safe and secure with her friend along. So really it was a three-way but my main focus was on the one chica. Her friend did not charge me even though she gave me a blowjob while I was fondling the primary (so much for Tall Man's Rule #5, "it's all about the money".

Well technically it wasn't a blowjob she just sucked my balls her. I tipped her 10 mil at the end. The hot one, her friend who quoted me 40 mil, I gave her a 50 mil, didn't worry about the change. I respect my fellow mongers but since I know what I pay has no bearing on price I don't give a shit or don't pay attention if I go over or under a little bit because that is chump change to me. The economic Law of Supply and Demand in a free market, which won a Nobel Prize over a hundred years ago as a theory and has since been elevated to a law, has withstood the test of time.

She gave me her phone number and she is so f* hot and sweet and natural I may actually give her a call but my plate is more than full right now.

Is that the puta you were you talking about or did you mean the pregnant one? Jajajajaja.

One more thing about price and then I'm done. Yeah, I know I've read the comments before about the price debate existing for 10 years or more here on this board, whatever. I solved it for you, okay? With information I learned 25 years ago that I rarely tap into. Deal with it. Moving on. End of discussion.

I get it. I'm a Medellin newbie and I already lapped a bunch of the old-timers, it happens. I'm used to it, they're not.

I respect subject matter experts and I never claimed to be one. I'm a monger, I have a mongering soul. I am second generation monger, it's in my DNA. I am the Scorpion in the Frog and Scorpion fable. I don't tolerate posers and pretenders.

I did not come to Medellin to monger. I did not even know Medellin was a mongering destination until after I arrived. That should tell you a lot.

Put a blindfold on me, spin me around drop me anywhere in the world and I will optimize my environment. That's all I did here. I believe and employ in the power of teleological thinking. I may be pre-wired for it which is maybe why it works so well for me. I don't know if it works for others, don't ask me.

I'm here to have fun, fuck and get sucked, get high, and touch as many gorgeous bodies as I can between now and when I die. Hopefully, without hurting myself or anyone else in the process and possibly maybe slightly helping a few people along the way.

With that said, I'm no longer going to engage anyone on this board, I'm going to post but I'm not going to interact. That news should come as a relief to some, most will not give a shit. Put me on your Ignore List. I don't care. Like any hot chica, I reserve the right to change my mind about interacting and engaging with other mongers on this board in the future jaja.

If you want it then you obviously get the last word. Before you accuse me of thinking that my shit doesn't stink, I love you guys and I can and will still learn a lot from you but I'm not willing to commit the time it takes to engage and interact with other users here so I'm just going to post and leave it at that. Nothing personal.

Keep On Keeping On! Ostee Out!

Random gratuitous foto.

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[QUOTE=Nounce;2603353]This happens on both sides. It is a percentage. Some people agree with you, some don't. It is the same the other way around.

Has anyone posted any report here to back you up on your point? I am not saying I don't believe you. Just so you see the problem if no one followed up with a report with picture taken themselves. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=MrEnternational;2603421]This is saying nothing. On an anonymous website full of horny guys you do not need a picture for guys to hit you up for numbers. All you have to do is say you fucked someone and the vultures will flock. Really weird to me when guys do that. Just because I reported fucking and having a great time, they want in, not knowing whether the chick could be farther from what they find attractive.[/QUOTE]You guys and your straw men just crack me up. I am going to make this point one last time and I give up.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2603125]In pursuing our hobby gents must be cognizant of the fact that some mongers are less financially empowered than others. Indeed some guys can spend $50 in the same manner that others spend $5. However, that does not give blokes the right to spend freely just because they could afford it. One has to be mindful of mongers who do not have the wherewithal to spend as freely and try not to alter the market to their detriment. In other words, be compassionate. Be your brothers' keeper. I'm just putting into words what many do not want to say.[/QUOTE]I found this post particularly nauseating. Guys do not have the "right" to spend their own money freely? And then invoking Biblical phrasing to justify that point of view? Yeesh.

The most important aspect of this forum is information about where women are, and the second most important question is how much. When I say that I paid a 10 a $100 and was reamed for it on the board and then was hit it up for her number in private, what incentive does that create for me and other guys to be honest? If I do not want to be shamed on this forum, I either do not mention how much I paid or cut it in half, and that is what guys are going to do and are doing.

In that case, you guys are like women in that you want to be told what you want to hear versus the truth, and the truth is the area where there was flexibility in pricing with mongering, I would just double what guys here were saying and those were the prices I was seeing. That is how much bullshit was being peddled on the forum.

This was not even my original point. Mojo said it, and I agreed. I have no skin in this game anymore, so you believe whatever you want.

[QUOTE=Finsfanfk;2603270]Hit for a little over a week and stayed in Airbnb in Laureles about a 10 minute walk to Tantra and close to Floresta station. Same as always, cool weather, inexpensive, beautiful women. Some guys complaining about to many mongers but why decide to go to a less desirable place just because of that. Just stay of the beaten path a little and it keeps it to a minimum.

Hit Tantra 3 times. 80 k for 45 minutes. Always have been happy with Tantra but last time only about 3 girls so was concerned would eventually not see anything of interest. But now they seem to be back to 10 plus girls so usually 2 or 3 I find attractive. First time cute mature curvy blond. Very good service. 2nd cute girl with a lot of ink including a full back tattoo. Some reason I get nervous that heavy ink means bad attitude but this girl had a great attitude with very physical massage. 3rd time was going to repeat with her but not around so with with very good looking tall girl I think Nicole or something close to that. Thought with her good looks might be subpar but turned out best massage whole trip. Think Tantra is very committed to customer service..[/QUOTE]Great report. I like thicker girls so you've inspired me to maybe give a few of those casas a shot.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2603275]Well, I really need to get back into the game. Been in the states for a few months, and before that in Mexico. Colombia is much better INHO. So I am here. Had myself a cute Vene and took here over to Nutbara. Its where I was staying.

I was super tired because I got in late and stayed out till the early morning hours.

Just had to get to find a girl there though. This girl calls herself Johana. After the dealing with the whole sex thing I took her out for a few beers. Welt to go find a cig and bam, here and her beer were both gone. I just enjoyed the company, I guess. I get it, she has to go back to work. Just wanted to show some respect. Super energetic. Wish I could have performed better. Went to Yakuza. Still there, it has changed a bit with newer girls. One was doable, but I was just too tired. I did get her number, Maybe its fake, don't know. Quoted 50 K A bit much for 30 minutes for me, but to each his own.

Total damage was 50 for an hour.

Ill be looking for that 16 COP place someone here was talking about. My plan is to get a place near Estadio or something like that. Need to check out somewhere I can find a furnished place.

Will try to upload Johanas pic.[/QUOTE]I have a furnished apartastudio in a building in Estadio I dig. Think they've got some open spots, PM me if you want the info.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2603193]Nobody is moving into El Centro to fuck things up, the existing SW's are being corrupted by all the newbie Colombian mongers overpaying. And to put things in perspective, $ 5 USD may be chump change to you and I, but for a Colombian that's almost 20,000 COP which is not chump change.

This is Colombia, not any of the other Countries you listed so we have to think in Colombian Pesos and their value in Colombia, not USD. And when a Chica throws out a wildly inflated price almost double to a newbie Colombian monger, and he accepts it, guess what, news of this travels like wildfire between the walkers and hence that is what I have been noticing as to what has been occurring. I posted about a candy girl the other day quoting me 50 K, when up until about six months ago before the invasion of the newbie mongers, it was typically 20 K.[/QUOTE]All the info is here and its being corrupted by wannabe reporters that hit it once and think they are experts.

Some people don't know how, when or why they should stfu.

"Loose lips sink ships" This is an old saying and if one doesn't understand it look it up. LOL.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2603468]One more thing about price and then I'm done. Yeah, I know I've read the comments before about the price debate existing for 10 years or more here on this board, whatever. I solved it for you, okay? With information I learned 25 years ago that I rarely tap into. Deal with it. Moving on. End of discussion.

I get it. I'm a Medellin newbie and I already lapped a bunch of the old-timers, it happens. I'm used to it, they're not.

I respect subject matter experts and I never claimed to be one. I'm a monger, I have a mongering soul. I am second generation monger, it's in my DNA. I am the Scorpion in the Frog and Scorpion fable. I don't tolerate posers and pretenders.

I did not come to Medellin to monger. I did not even know Medellin was a mongering destination until after I arrived. That should tell you a lot.

Put a blindfold on me, spin me around drop me anywhere in the world and I will optimize my environment. That's all I did here. I believe and employ in the power of teleological thinking. I may be pre-wired for it which is maybe why it works so well for me. I don't know if it works for others, don't ask me.

I'm here to have fun, fuck and get sucked, get high, and touch as many gorgeous bodies as I can between now and when I die. Hopefully, without hurting myself or anyone else in the process and possibly maybe slightly helping a few people along the way..[/QUOTE]Now that. Is a mic drop. More power to you hermano, I'll be following the adventure as the saga continues.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2603484]You guys and your straw men just crack me up. I am going to make this point one last time and I give up.

I found this post particularly nauseating. Guys do not have the "right" to spend their own money freely? And then invoking Biblical phrasing to justify that point of view? Yeesh.

The most important aspect of this forum is information about where women are, and the second most important question is how much. When I say that I paid a 10 a $100 and was reamed for it on the board and then was hit it up for her number in private, what incentive does that create for me and other guys to be honest? If I do not want to be shamed on this forum, I either do not mention how much I paid or cut it in half, and that is what guys are going to do and are doing.

In that case, you guys are like women in that you want to be told what you want to hear versus the truth, and the truth is the area where there was flexibility in pricing with mongering, I would just double what guys here were saying and those were the prices I was seeing. That is how much bullshit was being peddled on the forum.

This was not even my original point. Mojo said it, and I agreed. I have no skin in this game anymore, so you believe whatever you want.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I don't know what that was supposed to mean. Do I tell a girl 150 k is too much because tomorrow a guy I don't know might only be able to pay 100 k?

I really do believe a lot of guys pretend to pay as little as possible but I bet they also don't share how often a girl doesn't show or disappears. There are many good girls that will not work for 150 because they don't need to. Often these girls make an agreement then disappear because they have a better offer or think 100 k is an insult. There is a market for cheap girls but not all cheap girls are good. I'm in contact with a lot of popular girls on Instagram and they aren't coming for 150 k because they don't need the money and they already have a stable of men that pay more- Colombian men.

Gents,

Can any of you recommend the highest (or at least high) end casa en Medellin, possibly en de Poblado area.

I visit Spa Fantasias last week which was nice, but yo creo here might be some others that I am miss.

Thanks for your advices.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2603426]I'm not highly educated, but simply put in layman terms, and not in economic terms, prices have gone up as a result of newbie gringos overpaying.

Has nothing to do with supply and demand, because if the newbie gringos weren't overpaying, every thing would remain constant, with the prices not going up.

It's that simple.[/QUOTE]Layman's terms is always better, even though in this forum we are blessed with renowned experts in about every subject under the sun. Wink.

Good for these chicas if they can do better. There are always guys who will pay. Whether out of stupidity. Necessity. Or lack of time. Or the just have to have her. But there are also many good girls (often who look as good or better and / or who give as good or much better service) who will take 150 or so. I simply tell them two things. 1) I have been around for a long time and I know plenty of girls who are happy with that and give good service, so thanks anyways and 2) remember the Colombian minimum. Deep down, most of these girls realize their pussies are just a "tool" to make money, just like laborers have tools and street vendors have tools.

True, not all cheap girls are good. But to the contrary, many, many of the expensive girls are not good. They get lazy and spoiled. If a girl wears too much fake Gucci, the&G, etc. And / or bathes in make-up and / or is a silicone addict, that's a huge read flag for me. I would not be interested in them even if they would accept 150.

I imagine there are some Colombian men who pay more, although no telling how they treat the chicas (I suspect most of us treat them with more respect), but there are a whole lot of cheap-ass Colombian men who hate gringos because we are banging their chicas.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2603536]. There are many good girls that will not work for 150 because they don't need to. Often these girls make an agreement then disappear because they have a better offer or think 100 k is an insult. There is a market for cheap girls but not all cheap girls are good. I'm in contact with a lot of popular girls on Instagram and they aren't coming for 150 k because they don't need the money and they already have a stable of men that pay more- Colombian men.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DiegoSan4;2603422]Thanks to all the contributors in the Medellin section and World Travel 69 (I'll refer to as WT 69). I came well prepared and am now giving back.

August 27th. Friday.

Flew out of Tijuana on Aeromexico and arrived in Medellin around midnight. About 8 hours of flying time with a 2 hour layover in Mexico City. I arrived at the Nutibara hotel around 1:30 AM paying 80 k pesos for a taxi.

Nutibara is an older hotel, historic in it's day, on one end of Plaza Botero in El Centro, (the downtown area). It's fairly basic and staff did not speak English, but it is in a good location for some tourist attractions and for street girls as well as many daytime casas.

Based on reports in this forum, I had some concerns about safety before coming. By day, I would say that the El Centro area is mostly safe and swarming with large numbers of locals. Plenty of people out and about even past night fall for a few hours. Still, in and around El Centro, there are many sketchy looking streets with homeless and trash and although I never witnessed any crime, I had taxi drivers warn me of the petty crime and to keep phones and valuables hidden from sight.

August 28th. Saturday.

Started exploring the local casas following WT 69's map. First stop Yukasa which is just behind the hotel. 4 or 5 girls working at 11 AM. None caught my interest. Seemed like kind of a low end place. Next I looked for Chicas punto com near by on Calle 54. Same location, phone number, and address but now it's called Armonia Spa. WT 69's map showed a Fantasias Erotic massage on the 3rd floor of the same building but that no longer exists.

Armonia Spa was a winner! About 10 chicas, 3 or 4 of which looked quite good to me. Prices were 50 k for half hour and 70 or 80 k for the hour. BBBJ and DFK were extra. My first choice would do BBBJ but was firm on no DFK. Moved on to choice 2. A smoking hot very shapely Venezuelan. Said she was 25 but I would have believed 20 or 22. Though she agreed to DFK that ended up being pretty weak. BBBJ was decent but no CIM. Total damages 100 k for 30 minutes. All in all I was feeling like I was off to a good Medellin start!

I'm a one shot and out kind of guy but I continued my casa tour for educational purposes. Next Stop Zandalay and I walked there in what seemed like not much more than 5 minutes. Same pricing as Armonia and for that matter all the other casas too. 50 k per half hour and 80 k for the hour. Chicas seemed slightly older than at Armonia but for 2 or 3 out of the 5, I might have pulled the trigger on if I wasn't already spent. Next stop was Amigas Sexy which had a nice setup and at least a couple doable chicas. Dulce Compania nearby was next. Only 3-4 available and very low end like Yukasa. Masajes Aife was next. 5 or 6 available and a couple looked alright.

Last stop was New Life. With all the good reviews I was expecting it would be a cut above and perhaps better than Armonia but that was not my impression. Overall I think New Life was over rated but that could be because not a lot was available when I was there either time I visited in late morning, (5-6) and or they had become too popular because this was the one club in which I heard Americans both times.

Around 8 PM Saturday night I hit Barra Ejecutiva close by based on the good reports from Tall Man and others. I liked it there. Talked to a few of the chicas and met most of them at least briefly as they came by to collect contributions after dancing center stage. No problem. I handed out 2 k peso bills like they were candy. (only about 50 cents).

There were about 10 girls in the bar who looked to range in age from 20 to 30. I talked to 2 or 3 of them with my basic Spanish and in general they gave off a more educated and classy vibe than I observed in other bars. Called it a night after that leaving around 9 PM and made the 2-3 minute walk back to the Nutibara. Didn't feel dangerous but I suppose there might have been some risk even though there were still plenty of people out and about.

August 29th. Sunday.

Took an 11 k peso (about 3 dollar), 20 minute taxi drive in the morning to Parque Lleras in Poblado. Was not expecting any action that time of day and didn't find any. But Poblado is a much better ambiance and tourist destination than Centro. Walked around a bit and then did about a 15 minute walk to the Poblado Metro station.

The Metro is an excellent, modern and cheap system although a bit crowded that day. It's about a 15 minute ride from Poblado back to Parque Berrio which is a short walk to Plaza Botero and my hotel but I kept going about 15 minutes more on the Metro to the Acevedo station and then took the Metro Cable gondola like system as it gained a lot of elevation to Santo Domingo where I got off. Was a great tourist activity.

Got back later that afternoon. Went out that evening and made the short walk over to the locations of street girls. The main street action is on both sides of the streets or alleys surrounding the block which has the Iglesia de la Veracruz.

Lots of run of the mill at best girls with a few quite doable ones mixed in. A few quite young looking. I was feeling rather wiped out and so decided to just see if I could collect a whatsapp number or two for the next day. Talked to a few with my basic Spanish. Pricing was the familiar 50 k for 30 minutes or 70-80 k for the hour with more for extras. Same as the casas.

I was looking for one with good looks AND a good vibe. The good vibe being much harder to come by. Talked to a few. Some would not do BBBJ. DFK was even tougher. But I found a good one! A Vennie, who agreed to everything. Looked pretty young and said she was 20. She was fairly slim but shapely. Kind of a typical mix of part black, part native, part white mix which I find quite appealing. Also had a very warm smiling personality. Exchanged whatsapp and set up a date for the next day.

August 30th. Monday.

Visited the nearby Museo de Antioquia featuring the works of Botero. Not a large museum but well worth the inexpensive entry price. Was expecting to get together by 12 or 1 pm with my new Vennie but as many have experienced, lateness and excuses for lateness is a real problem here. I was tempted to cancel a couple of times but she kept me on the hook skillfully and finally arrived at 3:30 PM coming straight to the hotel.

I didn't know if the Nutibara was girl friendly and didn't want to ask. Had her walk with me to the elevators but was caught. Fortunately it was no problem. She presented a Venezuelan cedula which the hotel exchanged for their own badge and that was good enough.

Started off great in the room. She was upbeat, sweet and smiling and acted as taken with me as I was with her. Then we ran in to some bumps in the road. She didn't like DFK she said! Even though she had previously agreed to it. However she was very good natured about it and did at least attempt it with my insistence a few times.

No one brought a condom. Damn! The BBBJ was very good but she just couldn't keep it up for very long at a stretch to finish that way except with too much help by hand. Odd to say, but it was still some of the best unskilled sex I'd had since college. A rather long time ago. LOL.

Invited her to dinner after that in Poblado. Excellent food and beer at some place I can't recall the name of. Talked a bit and walked around a bit. However, the evening was going down hill fast. She was on her phone a lot and was pretty light weight conversationally, not having anything interesting to respond to much of anything I said including topics about Venezuela! LOL. I decided to call it a night around 8 PM.

I then took a taxi back to the hotel alone happy to have her not come with, even though the original expectation in my mind was that she would. She decided to stay around Parque Lleras to get more business with her soon to be arriving friend. I know it's not my girl and just my turn but that still seemed like comically bad form as she was simultaneously trying to talk me in to more business the next day. I was non committal on that hiding behind my basic Spanish. Didn't really want to close the door quite yet on future sessions but I was clearly falling out of love.

I had already agreed to pay her 300 k earlier in the evening when things were going better. Seemed overly generous by the time we split up but I rationalized it by having spent so many hours together.

August 31st. Tuesday.

Took a Comuna 13 tour 10 am - 2 PM. $25 and I was the only one on the tour! Nice views of the city and I'the recommend it. Got lots of texts from my previous days Vennie during the tour wanting to get together again. I made excuses while politely pointing out the deficiencies in the previous night. She promised that the amor would be better than the first time! That's kind of a fun thing to hear from a female I must admit. LOL.

Instead of a repeat I made a casa run in the Laureles area. Looked for Dharma Massage fighting alot of bad traffic and a lost taxi driver. Did finally find the right building but I'm pretty sure it was closed and no answer at the listed number. Next stop was Eros Spa. Nice looking establishment on the third floor of an apartment building. Note to WT 69. The 322xxxx690 whatsapp number listed for Eros goes somewhere else.

As I sat in the waiting room, around 3:30 PM, girls were all called in and there were around 20! I made a joke as the last girls filed in. Es todo? (Is that all? Hard to focus with so many but the overall quality seemed Ok. 4-7 for the most part. I know 20 or more at once can be awkward but it's also a bit intoxicating and I think it gives the winner a better attitude knowing that she practically won the lottery. LOL.

One definitely stood out at least by my tastes. Another Venezuelan. On the tall side, great face and awesome long legs and shapely and curvy butt. She said she was 20 although I would have thought possible up to 25 and no kids. She agreed to BBBJ with just a 30 k up charge from the 70 k base charge for an hour. I think I forgot to ask about the DFK upfront.

In the room she wouldn't do more than just light kissing. Damn! This had become a recurring problem. On the other hand, the BBBJ was stellar and sloppy and regular sex was good too with lots of moaning sounds for that. If it was an acting job then it was at least a good one. LOL. Exchanged whatsapp as I thought it might be worth repeating.

Next stop, Spa Mariangel. Unfortunately, the taxi driver couldn't find it but via whatsapp the listed number on the map is for a Spa Mariangel in Barranquilla!

Next stop Luna Lunera. Only 5 chicas available but one very beautiful by my taste white girl with dark hair from Baranquilla. Looked like she could have been up to 30 but said she was just turning 25. Quoted only 120 k for the half hour and 200 k for the hour which is less than others have reported. I enquired if there would be more girls later as I left and they said yes there would be about 20 by 8 PM. That turned out be a lie as I found out on a later day.

Got back to the hotel late evening and checked out Conejitos and Grill Nueva Avenida close to the hotel. Tall man said these locations reminded him of Adelitas in Tijuana which I agree. You might be able to find something to your liking in these bars but maybe not too. Checked out the Hilton Grill next but it was mostly empty.

Then I continued north on carrera 53 and checked out 4 or 5 bars on both sides of the street with many chicas sitting alone and in groups and very few male customers. All of that visible without even walking in to any of the bars. Hat tip to Nil Admirari and his excellent reporting who noted the same thing or I probably wouldn't have ventured up this street. Girl quality was about as good or better as any of the better known clubs like Conejitos. Not great but you could definitely find a few to your liking.

I chatted with one nice looking one and pricing was the standard 50 k for half hour. Strange that no one outside of Nil has mentioned this area. Kind of thrilling to see bars with lots more available women than customers. If there's a catch as to why these bars are not more popular than the known ones like Conejitos I couldn't find it.

Sept. 1 - Wednesday.

Main activity of the day was checking out several locations on Avenida 33 on the WT 69 map down the street from Luna Lunera. I can report that the casas Samsara, Sala de masajes Erotico, Los Angeles and Kassandra are all closed.

After that took an Uber to Fantasias Energy. About 8 to 10 chicas available. I was quoted 140 k half hour and 210 k for an hour. Girls here looked mostly 25 to 30 and more dolled up and in some cases "siliconed up" than at Eros. It was a nicer overall set up and ambiance here than in any other casa I had visited. My first choice would not agree to BBBJ.

Second choice would agree but for an extra 100 k. Those prices are good by USA Standards but I had gotten use to better so I bargained. In the end I paid 110 k to the house for a half hour plus 90 k more to the girl for BBBJ and DFK.

I had chosen well. This girl was a 27 year old white paisa with no tatoos and a very pleasant mature personality. Excellent DFK and BBBJ. We finished fairly quickly and talked for several minutes afterward which was a nice touch.

Sept. 2 - Thursday.

Took an all day tour to Lake Guatape, the town by the same name, and Penal Rock which I hiked all 600 steps up. Highly recommended if you've got the time. Started at 7:30 AM and didn't get back to the hotel until 7:30 PM so a very long day with 2 hours each way in a tour bus. Cost was only $30 which included breakfast and lunch and a one hour boat ride. It was a steal and easily the highlight of all my tourist activities. When I got back to the Nutibara the hot water was out!

Sept. 3 - Friday.

Hot water still out on Friday morning and was projected to remain out for another day! I switched hotels to Laureles Plaza Hotel. A blessing in disguise as Laureles is a much nicer area than Centro. That afternoon went back to Eros Spa. This time I took the time to count the actual number in the line up. 21! Although the overall quality was not great, with such a high number I'm sure most guys could find one or two to their liking. I found one but it ended up being a ho hum session. 100 k damages including BBBJ.

Sept 4 - Saturday.

Tourist activity. Visited the very large Minorista fruit and vegetable market just to see it although I did not buy anything. Fruits and vegetables of all kinds here at very low prices compared to the USA Amazing. Then checked out the first Saturday of every month Parque Bolivar artisans market. Was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the various items for sale and bought a couple of unique souvenirs.

Saturday night I went back to club Luna Lunera but got there too early at 7:30 PM. Only 2 available chicas at the time. 20 more were promised by 8:00 PM which quickly proved to be a lie. By 9 PM there were still only 6-7 but practically no customers! Luna Lunera wanted 210 k for the half hour and 310 k for the hour so the prices had gone up a lot from the daytime quote. The beer selection was terrible and most all of the tables had a sign on them requiring you to buy a 150 k bottle in order to sit there! Your mileage may vary but all of these girls seemed a bit rough around the edges to me and I passed. By 11 PM I think the chica selection would have probably improved but I didn't wait around to find out.

After 9 PM went to a new club not far from my hotel. Table Dance Grill Club on Calle 44 #73-58. Whatsapp # +57 312xxxx432. Once again, almost no customers with 6 to 7 chicas. Quality was decent and better than Luna Lunera. Talked to one who wanted 180 k for 30 minutes and 250 k for the hour. But I passed since she was unwilling on the BBBJ. These night time clubs may be worth it but the real action doesn't seem to start until 11 PM.

Sept. 5 - Sunday.

Flew to Cartagena on a 2:25 PM flight. Flying time only 45 minutes. Then only a 20 minute ride from the airport to the Hotel Playa Club in Bocagrande.

Was hot and humid in Cartagena as expected. After settling in to my hotel room I made a walk to the beach in the late afternoon. Right behind the hotel on the beach side a couple of somewhat rough looking difficult to understand touts found me, offering to help me find anything I might need. I wasn't expecting much, but they came through in just minutes!

The chica they found for me was quite a pleasant sight. Curvy, medium height girl from Barranquilla. Her father she said was of pure white Spanish ancestry, and her mother was black.

She had blue eyes that were practically the same color as mine. Very unusual for her medium light black skin tone but they looked appropriate on her as her features were not very dark. She was very good looking in the face by my picky standards. Perhaps an 8. We sat down on beach chairs and the touts brought us a couple of beers which were "free" that I of course realized would become expensive later.

She said she was 26 which was believable but if she had said 20 that would have been believable too. Had graduated college with a Business degree. No tattoos. As we talked she stared in to my eyes with a very seductive gaze and a kind of upbeat classy demeanor. Wow!

For a girl of this quality I realized I was probably low balling when I offered her 200 k for an hour. She politely turned that down. Eventually we settled on 350 k pesos for one hour plus a 50 k propina if it was good. That included BBBJ and DFK which at first she said she wouldn't do. Some might think I'm ruining the local market paying these kind of prices but I'm sure I'm not. This was a special case.

I paid the touts 50 k for their "free" beer. And we were off to the hotel. I know I was taking a small chance by not checking her in at the front desk but we slipped by to my room no problem.

From there this fine looking Colombiana completely lived up to expectations with passionate DFK, BBBJ, regular sex with condom and even CIM! (which had not been discussed up front). Never discussed pictures up front either but got a few of those too even including a full body and face pic which I will cherish since it perfectly captured her personality and smile.

She said she had been making very respectable money as a web cam girl and so that's perhaps why she wasn't paranoid about face pics. However, she still told me not to share them.

After the hour was up we talked for another half hour. A chore for me at my level of Spanish but I mostly kept up. She mentioned that she also provided multi hour, all day and or including all night sessions for double or triple what I had just paid Not my thing and especially not at those prices but we exchanged whatsapp in any case.

In text messages we exchanged the next day she said she would be going to Delerium with a friend. Is this a pick up club? Didn't look like one online but maybe it's become one? Perhaps someone reading this can answer that question. S.

She left me that night with me thinking I'd go broke if what I just had was a typical mongering experience! LOL.

Sept. 6 - Monday.

Another tourism day. Went to the walled City in the early morning and gave myself a self guided 2-3 hour tour. Was not very crowded as I had feared. I'd recommend this activity if you like Spanish colonial towns. Afterwards, I needed the exercise so walked all the way back to the hotel. About 3 miles.

That afternoon I checked out the beach scene again and went for a swim in the nice warm water. Some touts found me again but I particularly searched out Tony and found him eventually. He wears a green #19 Jersey with the name Antonio on it and is overweight just as described.

I don't know if I was really required to pay him 20 k for my beach seats with umbrella but I did. He brought over 3 to 4 chicas a couple of which I'd rate as Ok but not great. One was asking for 300 k per hour although I think I could have probably gotten that down to 200 k. I don't know if the price was inflated by Tony. Tony must have given up on me after that and after no further introductions for 20 minutes, I left. I'm not sure why Tony is a legend but every other tout you meet on the beach calls himself Tony so he must be. LOL.

I was able to find chicas on my own more successfully and at better prices than with Tony's help. Of course that does require at least basic Spanish. A couple of beach chicas I found agreed to 150 k per hour including BBBJ. One chica in particular had a decent amount of appeal and I probably would have gone for it on another day. But I kept looking for something a little better and never found it. Nothing I found was nearly in the same league as on my first day.

Another tout found me in the later evening and convinced me to go to Casa Rosilla. Said there would be 20 fine women there and it was only 15 minutes away. That was all a lie. Taxi ride took over 30 minutes in heavy traffic and the driver dropped me and the tout off. When we got there there were only 2 women and that part of town, close to the cruise ships, was a bit scary looking too. One of the two available had some appeal but wanted 300 k for an hour and would not agree to BBBJ.

I cut my losses and decided to go back to the hotel as the whole situation was beginning to feel even a bit dangerous. Another long ride back to the hotel for 20 k during which time he tried to sell me on cocaine and other drugs but I wasn't about to take a chance on that. He acted pretty angry at my offer to give him 10 k for his trouble even though he deserved nothing and I was very happy to be rid of him for 20 k. I was an idiot, and should have realized not to accept anything "free" from anyone!

Probably should have gone to the clock tower that night but I knew the good action probably wouldn't start until after 10 PM and I had an early flight back to Medellin the next morning.

Sept. 7 - Tuesday.

Flight back to Medellin. Got back to my Laureles hotel at 1 PM. Managed to arrange a date at the hotel via whatsapp with the first Eros girl who had unexpectedly contacted me the day before. She promised DFK this time. 150 k for an hour plus taxi. She tried hard to get me to do a trio with her friend for an extra 100 k but I passed. Our 3 PM date ended up being at 4 PM which by local standards meant she had come an hour early! . LOL.

This girl ended up being somewhat of a surprise in her personality from what I had recalled from the first session. She was no longer working at Eros due to some problem in getting paid the explanation for which I couldn't understand and she was now independent.

Upon arrival she helped herself to mini bar snacks and to the coke in my mini fridge to use as a chaser for the bottle of rum she had brought. She encouraged me to do shots along with her as she turned up the Latin music on the TV too loud. Then she made a bad impression by asking for the money upfront. That's always a bad sign. I wisely declined to pay and she backed off on the request.

We got down to the main event at that point. The BBBJ and sex was was quite good once again but then the DFK was completely lacking in violation of the agreement! This is why I don't pay up front and would have been perfectly happy to end the date if she had insisted! Foolishly, I agreed to a propina for better DFK but not worth it as the DFK was still sub par. Still overall, a good session.

I gave her a 30 k propina and 50 k for the taxi as agreed for a total of 230 k. At that point she seemed to not have much desire to leave even beginning to roll a joint which she said was for the road. .

I was getting some pretty good Spanish lessons as the date went 45 minutes over. She complimented me with expressions I can't well translate but she also sensed correctly that the feeling was not entirely mutual. LOL. Funny how much gets communicated even in the absence of good language skills. Although she had a body to die for and looked attractive in the face too, I just prefer the demure types much more than the hard drinking and partying types.

Sept. 8th. Wednesday.

Had to attend to some remote work and personal issues for most of the day. That afternoon I walked down to Carrera 70, the main bar and restaurant area looking for some packaged coffee to bring back home. I ran in to a charming young vendor of postres toting around a large container and after turning down a postre asked her advice on how to find the packaged coffee I was looking for.

Quickly offered her a 2 k tip for being so helpful. One thing led to another and she accompanied me to a grocery store near by where I made the purchase. She was just a tremendous amount of fun to talk to and we were even laughing together.

We spent the next hour and a half or so talking while sipping coffee and a gaseosa, (soft drink), I told her I'd pay her 40 k to make up for the lost postre sales.

There seemed to be a hint of attraction in the air that was building, (or was it attraction to my money! Which eventually became unambiguous. Yes, I was not imaging this! Problem is that even though she had the body of a smoking hot 22 year old, she had the face of someone not necessarily even 18. Although she did claim to be 18.

But no cedula! Age of consent is pretty low in Colombia but there's more than one way for something like this to go south so I wisely passed. Damn!

Sept. 9th. Thursday.

Checked out the Pablo Escobar museum tour. Tour only lasted about an hour and a half. Was over priced at $46 but I did learn a little. More remote work that afternoon.

Sept. 10th Friday.

Caught my midnight flight back home through Mexico City. Flight took off on time and landed in Mexico City. Customs was a little slow and then the process of scanning baggage was very very slow and I missed my connecting flight!

What a mess! Reminded me of other Latin American experiences. Super slow hotel check ins even when there's no problems. Very slow service in restaurants and pharmacies even in the presence of large numbers of employees and few customers. I have to remind myself that I'm not in a hurry here! LOL.

My original connecting flight was at 6:30 am and the new one was at 11:30 am. I used the time to write more of this trip report. Made it back to Tijuana about 1 PM local time. No covid test required to then cross back in to the USA!

Couldn't get a straight answer out of Aeromexico or anyone else before hand so this was a relief when I finally crossed over without the negative covid test. The airport exists on both sides of the border and is set up to make crossing back in to the USA Easy!

Comparing Medellin to Bogota and Cali which I'd already visited, I'm not sure I have a strong preference for any one city over the other now. Bogota and Cali are better in that they don't have as many tourists. Medellin looks better as it sits in a scenic valley however the air quality and or haziness and cloudiness of the skies detracts from that.

I'd give the edge to Bogota in mongering quality for what you pay. The Bogota Santa Fe area beats the Medellin Centro area. Cali chicas treat you better as you're more of a novelty without so many tourists around, but not as much to do in Cali and the weather can be pretty hot.

I was tempted by the online prepagos. Just hard to pull the trigger on that without face pics which they would rarely provide. Facebook seemed possible although difficult since I did not want to provide much info or face pic in my own profile. Has anyone had success with using Tinder anonymously and without face pic profile?

In summary, I don't think you can go wrong anywhere in Colombia. Now I just need to figure out a way to spend more time down there![/QUOTE]I don't go through Mexico anymore when I fly to Colombia, although I live in San diego. Aeromexico is on my red list since they tried to have me pay twice the price right before boarding at night in Colombia saying that my ticket payment ID not go through which was complete BS. I had to pay and got a refund 2 months later with no apologies. Even Avianca has turned sour since their near bankruptcy; like you, they delayed my flight to make sure I missed my connection flight.

I now fly exclusively with US companies for international to latin america; except low cost like SPIRIT, they are more reliable.

[QUOTE=DiegoSan4;2603422]Thanks to all the contributors in the Medellin section and World Travel 69 (I'll refer to as WT 69). I came well prepared and am now giving back.[/QUOTE]What a great post trip report, so much damn detail and thank you for the shout out to the Tall Man (me) who was able to offer some advice that was useful for you when you were in my home city of Medellin.

So as I read about your Cartagena chica, one hour for 350 mil then the 50 mil tip for the finders fee, ouch we all have different size pockets for sure.

Yes our Colombia has much to offer in both chicas and also the touristy things to do.

And the biggest contributing factor for me deciding 5 years ago to make Medellin my home versus Cali or Bogota or Cartagena boils down to the climate, I can wear shorts and a tank top in my apartment day and night and never the need for AC or home heating.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Neophaser;2603444]Hi,

I like to play Beachvolleyball and swim some lanes, what are the best places for that? I think the Estadio Sports Complex is one of that places, is it open? Any restrictions?

Is Medellin suitable for biking (at least the flat parts)?[/QUOTE]Biking is iffy, your basically road kill. As far as swimming, no problem getting wet!

Forget Estadio unless your staying close by. Go to Unitad Deportes in Bellen it's a large sports complex with a recreational and Olympic pool. Hours 8 AM to 4 PM weekdays, best time before noon and after 1 PM on weekdays. Weekends open at 8 AM but no free swimming until 11 AM due to classes. They keep the pool cool, perfect for swimming laps and it's expensive at 8,500 COP to use. Great staff and they will guard your belongings in the office.

[QUOTE=DiegoSan4;2603422]Thanks to all the contributors in the Medellin section and World Travel 69 (I'll refer to as WT 69). I came well prepared and am now giving back.

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I'd give the edge to Bogota in mongering quality for what you pay. The Bogota Santa Fe area beats the Medellin Centro area. Cali chicas treat you better as you're more of a novelty without so many tourists around, but not as much to do in Cali and the weather can be pretty hot.

I was tempted by the online prepagos. Just hard to pull the trigger on that without face pics which they would rarely provide. Facebook seemed possible although difficult since I did not want to provide much info or face pic in my own profile. Has anyone had success with using Tinder anonymously and without face pic profile?

In summary, I don't think you can go wrong anywhere in Colombia. Now I just need to figure out a way to spend more time down there![/QUOTE]Damn! Excellent report!

Have you been to Bogota recently? (post covid) If yes, would you still give Bogota edge over Medellin?

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2603580]True, not all cheap girls are good. But to the contrary, many, many of the expensive girls are not good. They get lazy and spoiled. If a girl wears too much fake Gucci, the&G, etc. And / or bathes in make-up and / or is a silicone addict, that's a huge read flag for me. I would not be interested in them even if they would accept 150.[/QUOTE]See Mr. E it is not about the $5 but with idiots paying too much it ruins damn near everything. The girls can now afford to lather on too much makeup, throw on a bunch of tattoos, fake parts, expect taxi rides when only 3 blocks away, come when they want not when you want, and the list goes on.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2603468]I respect subject matter experts and I never claimed to be one. I'm a monger, I have a mongering soul. I am second generation monger, it's in my DNA. I am the Scorpion in the Frog and Scorpion fable. I don't tolerate posers and pretenders.

I did not come to Medellin to monger. I did not even know Medellin was a mongering destination until after I arrived. That should tell you a lot.[/QUOTE]Yes, it tells me a lot. A second generation monger that has mongering in his DNA but neither you nor your daddy knew Medellin was a mongering destination? Did daddy not teach junior well? Priceless.

[QUOTE=DiegoSan4;2603422]In summary, I don't think you can go wrong anywhere in Colombia. Now I just need to figure out a way to spend more time down there![/QUOTE]Wow that was a long trip report, but well worth the read! Cartagena tends to cost more than Medellin for prepagos. Glad you had a great time and ignore the people that gives you shit for "overpaying".

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2603484]The most important aspect of this forum is information about where women are, and the second most important question is how much. When I say that I paid a 10 a $100 and was reamed for it on the board and then was hit it up for her number in private, what incentive does that create for me and other guys to be honest? If I do not want to be shamed on this forum, I either do not mention how much I paid or cut it in half, and that is what guys are going to do and are doing.[/QUOTE]Not sure why people would assume you're making up stories. As for the BS artist on this board that talks about smashing prepagos for free and steals photos from blogs, now that's questionable. When I have sex with a hot chick, I don't ask to take photos; not my thing.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2603302]I was wondering if someone would make that call. Good job. And your response was more than "just curious."[/QUOTE]Well, nice polite response impressed you didn't get pissed. I'm still "curious" but no big deal. No answer needed. Keep enjoying yourself and stay safe doing so.

[QUOTE=United1;2603554]Gents,

Can any of you recommend the highest (or at least high) end casa en Medellin, possibly en de Poblado area.

I visit Spa Fantasias last week which was nice, but yo creo here might be some others that I am miss.

Thanks for your advices.[/QUOTE]For on site sex If the eye candy department is what you need, the Loutron, La Isla strip club and Fase Dos in that order. All will be in the 300-350k peso range and YMMV in terms of service, but hey atleast you got eye candy. I personally go to the Smartfit for a workout or Santa Fe mall for a stroll when I feel like eye candy.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2603536]Yeah,. There is a market for cheap girls but not all cheap girls are good. I'm in contact with a lot of popular girls on Instagram and they aren't coming for 150 k because they don't need the money and they already have a stable of men that pay more- Colombian men.[/QUOTE]And have you had mind blowing sex with any of them? Equally would you admit to it every time you paid top dollar and got a starfish? Look, pay what you want to pay and do what you want, it's your money, but don't come and say it's the normal market rate. Because that ain't so.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2603631] I personally go to the Smartfit for a workout or Santa Fe mall for a stroll when I feel like eye candy.[/QUOTE]But did you pull any?

Allow me to reply to myself. WHile most of these girls probably realize that their pussy is their tool, they won't admit it. I've had conversations with girl I know well about what exactly a gringo is paying for. They usually tell me they are paying for her time. I tell her, in a nice way, that her time is worth shit (especially these barrio girls who can't get a job and don't want one because they are too spoiled or lazy). And that the gringo is only paying for the services they can provide. And if the gringo is not happy with the service, he will go away, regardless of how much time you spend with him taking his free food, drugs, and booze.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2603580]. Deep down, most of these girls realize their pussies are just a "tool" to make money, just like laborers have tools and street vendors have tools.
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[QUOTE=DiegoSan4;2603422]Thanks to all the contributors in the Medellin section and World Travel 69 (I'll refer to as WT 69). I came well prepared and am now giving back.

August 27th. Friday.


In summary, I don't think you can go wrong anywhere in Colombia. Now I just need to figure out a way to spend more time down there![/QUOTE]Thank you DiegoSan4 for you lengthy report , very good reporting!! but to any an everyone else: it is not necessary to repost his whole thing report when you are replying to his post. Highlight and delete the parts that do not need to be reposted.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2603121]Anyone planning Medellin during end of October or November. Its boring to be alone in Medellin.[/QUOTE]You can call or send a whatsapp to Nick, he speaks perfect English and will help you around Medellin with tours, party supplies and best recommendations for girls.

+57305xxxx841.

[QUOTE=Jigsaw007;2603654]You can call or send a whatsapp to Nick, he speaks perfect English and will help you around Medellin with tours, party supplies and best recommendations for girls.

+57305xxxx841.[/QUOTE]Since the contact number gets masked by ISG, it is not usable to contact Nick. Does Nick has facebook page or twitter to connect with him?

I contacted one uber guy, who is quoting me $50/ day for 4 hours of his wingman / guide service. It will cost me $350 per week, which I think is bit high. I am looking for more reasonable alternative. .

ISG fam. Without boring you guys with all the mini details, spent a week in Medellin first week of September and this was the updated intel I gathered while I was there. I'm a veteran of the Bangkok / Pattaya scene and this was my first time in Medellin so comparing my experiences to that. Also, a big thank you to a lot of the contributors on here who helped out a ton with their previous reports prior to myself getting there. These were some of my Medellin rookie mistakes and successes:

Compared to Bangkok / Pattaya, the Medellin scene is not as in your face. Everything is more discrete and under the radar with freelancers and unmarked casas. You have to go hunting and takes more effort versus Bangkok / Pattaya where everything is centralized. On top of that, you need a decent level of Spanish here or you're going to have a lot of awkward pauses and look like a fool pulling out your phone to use Google Translate every 2nd sentence. Unlike Thailand where most girls have a basic grasp of English, the average Colombian I encountered knew ZERO English or like one or two phrases.

Facebook was a fail and Seeking was a minor success. Messaged 6 girls on FB that I "friended" before my trip to Medellin and didn't get a response from any of them. Seeking I had a ton of matches and messages. There were so many that it was a little overwhelming so followed through on one and she met up at the designated time and place but I decided not to pull the trigger because she wasn't as hot as her photos suggested. It was the same girl but you could tell she touched up her photos a little. With Seeking, I see a lot of potential but the kicker is the $100 monthly subscription which allows you to message girls back. It's worth it but I'd recommend getting it two weeks or so before your trip so that it gives you time to match and you'll still have access to it while you're there. There's a lot of non-pros and hotties on there and I feel that you can get some great deals if you manage your logistics right. The one thing that would worry me a little is the flakiness of girls and them not showing up or showing up really late since this did happen to me 75% of the time I made arrangements with girls.

Girls at Lleras Parque were quoting US $100 for an hour, US $200 for 2 hours, and US $260 for "all night. " "All night" depended on the girl. Some said 5 am, others said whenever they wake up. The bouncers at Lleras Parque were a little sketchy. During the slow days, they let you in without hassle but on the weekends if you try to get there around 1030 or so, they try to charge you a cover of 20 k COP and if you come with a group of guys, they make you try to buy a bottle. My advice is to not roll in with a group of dudes, get there early, buy a beer, scope the scene, and bounce if you don't like what you see. There were some lookers at Lleras Parque for sure.

Girls inside Gustos were quoting US $200 for 2 hours and US $300 for all night. Made a couple rounds around 1030-11 pm. There was a good selection of girls but not sure if it's worth US $200.

Freelancers outside of Gustos were quoting US $50 - $65 for an hour. Didn't ask for all night but there were a couple lookers the nights I walked up and down the street. There's a short-time hotel right behind Juancho Alitas restaurant next to Gustos that charges around US $30 for 3 hours if your hotel doesn't allow guests or charges more per guest than what the short-time hotel charges. It's safe and has all the basic amenities. Price is kind of steep but it's convenient.

Wednesday-Saturday seems like the best days to go with more selection and quality. Outside of that, it seemed a little dead.

Fase Dos was a waste of time but I went on a Sunday evening so maybe that could've been it. There were maybe about 15 girls or so, with two of them that I would say were hot but of course, both were swarmed by dudes by the time I got there.

La Isla was where it was at. Went twice, both times saw the same girls. Big club, good music, good vibes, and probably about 30-40 girls walking around doing their thing. Quality was pretty good. Beers were US strip club prices and girls were $75 for a 45-min session. One thing I didn't like were the girls walking around asking for tips (propina) after dancing. It's not mandatory and you don't need to give a tip if you don't want to.

Some miscellaneous non-girl info:

Rappi was a hit and miss. They don't take US-based credit cards after I tried inputting both my AmEx and Visa cards from different banks. I was able to pay in cash for my restaurant orders but when I tried to place orders for the grocery stores, Rappi would automatically cancel my grocery orders when the shopper tried to substitute one of my items when one of the items was out of stock. Seemed like there's some Rappi glitch that Rappi needs to figure out.

InDriver was a lifesaver. Multiple times I was not getting any luck with Uber during peak night hours so based on the rate I got on Uber, I'd quote 10% lower on InDriver and within a minute would have a driver ready to pick me up.

DON'T stay at the Charlee Hotel / Charlee Lifestyle. The logistics are great but for the price you're paying, you can get something way better. Either through AirBnB or another hotel nearby. The hotel is nice but they charge US $45 after the first girl you bring back to the hotel, no matter if you're staying a day or a week. PASS.

When flying out of Medellin, you need one of those blue or black medical masks to get through security. Security won't let you through even if you have an alternate face covering. Has to be a medical mask. Luckily a guy behind me had an extra one and gave me one.

Bring an umbrella if you're going around this time. Just random rain showers during the day and at night it would just start pouring.

Thanks for the report.

[QUOTE=Belisaj;2603674]One thing I didn't like were the girls walking around asking for tips (propina) after dancing. It's not mandatory and you don't need to give a tip if you don't want to.[/QUOTE]That is how some girls make money. I would suggest to get waiter to exchange 50 mil of 2 mil bills. Tip each girl 2 mil and have some fun before giving her the tip.

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2603587]I don't go through Mexico anymore when I fly to Colombia, although I live in San diego. Aeromexico is on my red list since they tried to have me pay twice the price right before boarding at night in Colombia saying that my ticket payment ID not go through which was complete BS. I had to pay and got a refund 2 months later with no apologies. Even Avianca has turned sour since their near bankruptcy; like you, they delayed my flight to make sure I missed my connection flight.

I now fly exclusively with US companies for international to latin america; except low cost like SPIRIT, they are more reliable.[/QUOTE]Had a similar experience years back with Aeromexico flying from Medellin to LA, had to go thru immigration in Mexico City and it was all jammed up and I missed my connection and the airline tried to charge me to get on the next flight. I will never fly on a a Mexican airline thru Mexico City to or from Medellin again.

As far as AVIANCA, well I had a very positive experience with them since the bankruptcy. I had a roundtrip ticket from MDE to LAX with the dates of March 15 and a return of March 19 in 2020 and when I flew back to LA on the 15th I did not return to MDE on the 19th due to the Pandemic.

I had a business class ticket and received a voucher from AVIANCA saying it would be good for a return flight thru 2021. Then the bankruptcy hit, everybody told me I was hosed, and that it would never be honored.

Well they did honor it, and I used it to fly back down here earlier this year.

[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2603611]Damn! Excellent report!

Have you been to Bogota recently? (post covid) If yes, would you still give Bogota edge over Medellin?[/QUOTE]Good question. No, I haven't been to Bogota post covid. From reading the forum, I could see that some of the casas shut down there just like in Medellin. Perhaps Woodman could weigh in how the Santa Fe area compares now to how it was pre covid when I visited. I'd guess close to being back to the same and even with the same low prices. I haven't gotten the impression that Bogota has gotten inflated such as Medellin has in the Parque Lleras area and high end clubs like Fase II and Islas but not sure on that.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2603580]True, not all cheap girls are good. But to the contrary, many, many of the expensive girls are not good. They get lazy and spoiled. If a girl wears too much fake Gucci, the&G, etc. And / or bathes in make-up and / or is a silicone addict, that's a huge read flag for me. I would not be interested in them even if they would accept 150.[/quote]I don't think we are talking about the same girls. You are generalizing. Regardless of price good sex usually comes with a connection or compatibility. I'm not sure that cheaper girls give better service. It is true that on any given day a girl that normally demands whatever will go cheaper if she has a deadline.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2603632]And have you had mind blowing sex with any of them? Equally would you admit to it every time you paid top dollar and got a starfish? Look, pay what you want to pay and do what you want, it's your money, but don't come and say it's the normal market rate. Because that ain't so.[/QUOTE] I've paid top dollar maybe twice(300k). What's the difference between that and La Isla where by the time it's said and done it's 300+? They are both good. I'm sure I've given more than 200k including taxi a couple of times every trip. I won't miss the money. If we were being honest you would admit that not all girls that hear your spiel agree to meet and give you mind blowing sex. It works some of the time but not all the time. So in the end it's, to each his own.

Yes, I am generalizing, but it seems to me you were also. As I read it, you seemed to imply that you get what you pay for and that somehow a more expensive girl gives you better service. I have found the opposite. Now if what you are trying to say is that a girl who usually charges more drops her price because she really needs the money. The service might not be as good because of the attitude that comes with it. Then I would be more likely to agree.

I do agree with you that good sex comes with some connection (or just a horny chica who truly enjoys sex).

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2603807]I don't think we are talking about the same girls. You are generalizing. Regardless of price good sex usually comes with a connection or compatibility. I'm not sure that cheaper girls give better service. It is true that on any given day a girl that normally demands whatever will go cheaper if she has a deadline.
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My first night in Medellin was OK. I forgot how steep the hills are in El Poblado though, I'm knackered today.

Ended up in Parque Lleras and took a Venezuelan girl from the park bit but where everyone stands.

She was cute but curvy. Had a big ass, decent sized tits and a pretty face. There were a few cute girls around but none above a 7 I would say.

The girl originally asked for 250 and I just countered with 200, could have maybe got her down lower but I was really tired and just wanted to get someone quickly.

Hoping to get to El Centro today, would be great if any experienced El Centro veterans are about in the next few days to show me the ropes.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2603807]
I've paid top dollar maybe twice(300k). What's the difference between that and La Isla where by the time it's said and done it's 300+? They are both good. I'm sure I've given more than 200k including taxi a couple of times every trip. I won't miss the money. If we were being honest you would admit that not all girls that hear your spiel agree to meet and give you mind blowing sex. It works some of the time but not all the time. So in the end it's, to each his own.[/QUOTE]Ok so now you seem to be agreeing. Price and looks / performance don't correlate. Go back and read your post, you were saying you were in contact with IG girls and they're not going for 150 mil and Colombian men pay more than that etc. And I am not even referring to paying the occasional 50 mil more for a must have. I think we all to some extent do that. But there are dudes getting quoted directly $US rates in Colombia and paying up $200, that's like 750 mil for a pop. You might as well at Loutron or La Isla where you can atleast see and sample the goods for less than 1/2 the price.

That line about 150mil and Colombian men is just not a true statement. The price they pay in the barrios is somewhere between free and a little spending money occasionally. Many FB girls are on IG. Nothing special about IG. Some IG girls with tons of followers have no intention of doing retail puta work, they may go for a out of sized offer but their income maybe off IG, same with web cam girls. Many of these girls would have been in the game in past decades but they have an outlet now. The market rate is however fairly consistent. But that doesn't mean girls don't try to get what they can. And if you don't mind paying for whatever reason, then she found her fish, and you may have found a starfish who wants to get it over with and part with the big payday.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2603828]Ok so now you seem to be agreeing. Price and looks / performance don't correlate. Go back and read your post, you were saying you were in contact with IG girls and they're not going for 150 mil and Colombian men pay more than that etc. And I am not even referring to paying the occasional 50 mil more for a must have. I think we all to some extent do that. But there are dudes getting quoted directly $US rates in Colombia and paying up $200, that's like 750 mil for a pop. You might as well at Loutron or La Isla where you can atleast see and sample the goods for less than 1/2 the price.[/QUOTE]The girls that quote in US $ are (as far as I know or have heard) are the girls at Gusto's or some around Parque Lleras. In the last 2 years that I lived here I've only had one FB girl quote me in US $ and that led to a "have a nice day" ending to our discussion.

However, I don't think you can really say price and performance aren't correlated. I think it is fair to say they may not be. But I attribute that to a very poor idea of how to negotiate with the girls. Sure, I probably over pay a lot of the time but I think I get extra and sometimes superb service when I do. How so??

Let's say I'm talking to a FB girl and she asks what I'm going to pay. I think she's desirable and I want her. So I tell her this. I am accustomed to paying 200 mil total. Obviously I tell her what I like to do in a cita. DFK, taking photos, BBBJ etc. She'll ask how much is the propina and I'll tell her that if you do all the things I like 20 mil. And if I have the best session of my life the total propina could be 50 mil.

She will usually come back with something like throw in taxis. I usually say fine.

Some will laugh and say these girls can't remember to bring their cedula they sure aren't going to remember the "deal" but when it comes to money their memory is usually pretty sharp.

So if a guy just offers way over market without any conditions, I would agree he will get a generic session that will be way overpriced. But if he sets the terms carefully and she understands how to maximize her earn, my experience has been that more than half will try to deliver their best to get the extra money.

OH and one other fine point. If they know you live here they try harder because they want the regular that they can message when they need rent. Vacationers? I don't think they feel any incentive to try harder.

[QUOTE=Belisaj;2603674]Facebook was a fail and Seeking was a minor success. Messaged 6 girls on FB that I "friended" before my trip to Medellin and didn't get a response from any of them.[/QUOTE]I advise anyone on a short trip not to bother with Facebook. Most only check their accounts or read their work related messages when they are desperate for money. If some mark is sending them $500 retainers, then they are essentially off the market. Even when they answer some, many go radio silent or no show. Who knows why. Maybe you got outbid. More likely the landlord isn't breathing down her neck yet and she'd rather watch nouvellas or party with friends. Even those on longer trips may want to skip this venue. Their work ethic can be grossly overrated.

Rappi accepts USA Based credit cards. You should check with your card issuer to find out what problem you had.

[QUOTE=Belisaj;2603674]ISG fam. Without boring you guys with all the mini details, spent a week in Medellin first week of September and this was the updated intel I gathered while I was there. I'm a veteran of the Bangkok / Pattaya scene and this was my first time in Medellin so comparing my experiences to that. Also, a big thank you to a lot of the contributors on here who helped out a ton with their previous reports prior to myself getting there. These were some of my Medellin rookie mistakes and successes:

Compared to Bangkok / Pattaya, the Medellin scene is not as in your face. Everything is more discrete and under the radar with freelancers and unmarked casas. You have to go hunting and takes more effort versus Bangkok / Pattaya where everything is centralized. On top of that, you need a decent level of Spanish here or you're going to have a lot of awkward pauses and look like a fool pulling out your phone to use Google Translate every 2nd sentence. Unlike Thailand where most girls have a basic grasp of English, the average Colombian I encountered knew ZERO English or like one or two phrases.

Facebook was a fail and Seeking was a minor success. Messaged 6 girls on FB that I "friended" before my trip to Medellin and didn't get a response from any of them. Seeking I had a ton of matches and messages. There were so many that it was a little overwhelming so followed through on one and she met up at the designated time and place but I decided not to pull the trigger because she wasn't as hot as her photos suggested. It was the same girl but you could tell she touched up her photos a little. With Seeking, I see a lot of potential but the kicker is the $100 monthly subscription which allows you to message girls back. It's worth it but I'd recommend getting it two weeks or so before your trip so that it gives you time to match and you'll still have access to it while you're there. There's a lot of non-pros and hotties on there and I feel that you can get some great deals if you manage your logistics right. The one thing that would worry me a little is the flakiness of girls and them not showing up or showing up really late since this did happen to me 75% of the time I made arrangements with girls..[/QUOTE]

Tantra Cra 80 #44 -139.

Comes up on Google maps and quick walk from Floresta metro station.

My Airbnb was where Avenue Nutibara and San Juan meet. $20 bucks, great patio, little noise. I did not ask about guests since I like to get a nice apartment and then do a love motel if needed. In the past other hosts have made it clear no ladies of the evening, there was no security guard so I could have tried if situation arouse. Others have suggested messaging host and making it clear you want to have guests, with so many Property listings someone will say yes.

Good report.

[QUOTE=Belisaj;2603674]Facebook was a fail and Seeking was a minor success. Messaged 6 girls on FB that I "friended" before my trip to Medellin and didn't get a response from any of them. Seeking I had a ton of matches and messages. There were so many that it was a little overwhelming so followed through on one and she met up at the designated time and place but I decided not to pull the trigger because she wasn't as hot as her photos suggested. It was the same girl but you could tell she touched up her photos a little. With Seeking, I see a lot of potential but the kicker is the $100 monthly subscription which allows you to message girls back. It's worth it but I'd recommend getting it two weeks or so before your trip so that it gives you time to match and you'll still have access to it while you're there. There's a lot of non-pros and hotties on there and I feel that you can get some great deals if you manage your logistics right. The one thing that would worry me a little is the flakiness of girls and them not showing up or showing up really late since this did happen to me 75% of the time I made arrangements with girls.[/QUOTE]Facebook is a numbers game. 6 is too few. 60 would have been a better start. With just a few friends added nobody is seeing you. Especially if you don't have any friends in common amongst those 6.

I've rarely initiated conversation with Facebook girls. I just send the friend requests and keep adding. When I'm active on Facebook, I'll get a few girls contacting me every week. When I'm en route to Medellin, I post a relevant picture and the girls start hitting me up. I'll easily have 20 wanting to see me before I clear customs. Then I decide which ones I'm interested in.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2603844]However, I don't think you can really say price and performance aren't correlated.[/QUOTE]Not in the least bit. Comparing apples to apples (meaning the same damn girl at different prices), I read this morning of a poster in the Bogota thread that met a Tinder chick. 200K. He said it was a horrible experience and they were done with each other after 45 min.

I met the same chick on Tinder last month and had a GFE blast with her. She stayed a couple of hours (left only because I had to leave to go meet up with another BM) and her initial offer to me was 150K and did not mention any of that taxi and tip bullshit either. I plan to see her again.

He paid the chick more and felt his money was wasted; I paid less and came out 100% satisfied with aspirations to repeat. And I hardly ever repeat with hookers. At 150K I totally got what I paid for. At 200K he felt he was ripped off. We were not there for the session that each other had, but from our subjective reports you can see that price had nothing to do with performance.

Another case in point. Last year when the pandemic shut everything down in Thailand, I met a chick on the street that said she normally works at the soapy massage place. There it costs like $70 for her. She came over to my house and blew my socks off for $15. BB everything CIP. And I have never heard of chicks in the soapies doing BB anything. I would not have gotten better performance had I met her at her job for 4 or 5 times the money.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2603921]Not in the least bit. Comparing apples to apples (meaning the same damn girl at different prices), I read this morning of a poster in the Bogota thread that met a Tinder chick. 200K. He said it was a horrible experience and they were done with each other after 45 min.

I met the same chick on Tinder last month and had a GFE blast with her. She stayed a couple of hours (left only because I had to leave to go meet up with another BM) and her initial offer to me was 150K and did not mention any of that taxi and tip bullshit either. I plan to see her again.

He paid the chick more and felt his money was wasted; I paid less and came out 100% satisfied with aspirations to repeat. And I hardly ever repeat with hookers. At 150K I totally got what I paid for. At 200K he felt he was ripped off. We were not there for the session that each other had, but from our subjective reports you can see that price had nothing to do with performance.

Another case in point. Last year when the pandemic shut everything down in Thailand, I met a chick on the street that said she normally works at the soapy massage place. There it costs like $70 for her. She came over to my house and blew my socks off for $15. BB everything CIP. And I have never heard of chicks in the soapies doing BB anything. I would not have gotten better performance had I met her at her job for 4 or 5 times the money.[/QUOTE]Sorry Mr. E that isn't even close to an apples to apples comparison. Sure the girl was the same one and the prices differed but don't you recognize that there are other variables in play? Here let me throw a few possibilities:

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Maybe he saw her after she had had 2 dates and was just exhausted and sore. While you saw her when she was fresh.

Maybe he treated her like shit and you treated her better.

What I'm trying to point out is that there are a lot of variables in performance. Money is just one of them. So you can say money is not correlated to performance but since there are always other factors that will affect performance YMMV. I find that my using an incentive to coax out good performance works for me.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2603779]Had a similar experience years back with Aeromexico flying from Medellin to LA, had to go thru immigration in Mexico City and it was all jammed up and I missed my connection and the airline tried to charge me to get on the next flight. I will never fly on a a Mexican airline thru Mexico City to or from Medellin again.[/QUOTE]One fucked up thing about going through Mexico is when you go from the USA through Mexico, you do not have to have your bag searched. It can be checked right through. When you are flying up from South America to the USA, probably because of concerns with drugs, you do have to recheck your bag.

Personally, I was seeing ridiculously cheap flights (100) from Miami and Fort Lauderdale to Colombia, so for guys in the Central and Eastern part of the USA, that is the way to go. I do not know why but if you fly American Airlines, it is often half price to do two one ways through Miami than book directly to Colombia. I booked DFW to MIA and then MIA to CTG and got a $200 total one way fare instead of $400 with DFW to CTG. I do not know why.

If you live on the West Coast, I think that Tijuana route is great because you have no Covid tests, no baggage layovers, and the Mexican fares are usually cheap.

Wingo Airlines has really cheap fares to and from Mexico and they are a nice airline that does not often show up on searches.

And I just saw some great prices from Volaris to and from Colombia from Mexico as well.

It is nice to see cheap fares again. Things were nuts for a while.

Anyone here risk flying Spirit and live to tell about it?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2603887]Rappi accepts USA Based credit cards. You should check with your card issuer to find out what problem you had.[/QUOTE]This was discussed a couple of months ago. They do accept US cards, however when you are registering your card, they send a small fictitious charge to your card account, you have to check that amount on your card website and put that amount into the app before the card is set up to work in the app. I had a minor incident first up before I figured this out, when I ordered food on the app it arrived but defaulted to effectivo (which I did not have). Luckily I was with a SA sweetheart who paid the rest from her purse till we went over to the ATM.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2603854]I advise anyone on a short trip not to bother with Facebook. Most only check their accounts or read their work related messages when they are desperate for money. If some mark is sending them $500 retainers, then they are essentially off the market. Even when they answer some, many go radio silent or no show. Who knows why. Maybe you got outbid. More likely the landlord isn't breathing down her neck yet and she'd rather watch nouvellas or party with friends. Even those on longer trips may want to skip this venue. Their work ethic can be grossly overrated.[/QUOTE]All the more reason to cast your net wide on FB and don't fixate on any one chica. A sample size of 6 is abysmal, and if you get to 60 it won't stop there. I don't mine any more and I am picky in who I add, subjectively for looks I find attractive, and even so I am over 600 friends, far more than my real account, and I don't even have my picture on the page except when I am there in town.

Agree however their punctuality, flakiness and general unreliability is a huge turn off. Certainly better on repeats but bad generally.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2603946]...
What I'm trying to point out is that there are a lot of variables in performance. Money is just one of them. So you can say money is not correlated to performance but since there are always other factors that will affect performance YMMV. I find that my using an incentive to coax out good performance works for me.[/QUOTE]If money matters that much, the the expensive clubs will have the best performers on average. I go to both expensive and cheap places and as far as sex is concerned, I don't see that. I have taken girls from the most expensive club in Sao Paulo recently. I am paying like half or a quarter of some other clients are paying based on what she told me after. I simply don't see how she can perform better with more money. I am sure she would choose more money if she is presented with that option. More money probably give you better opportunity.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2603998]I simply don't see how she can perform better with more money. I am sure she would choose more money if she is presented with that option. More money probably give you better opportunity.[/QUOTE]I don't either. It is like if we were playing a game of dominos and I offered you money to play better. How much better could you possibly play? Some people are really good at things, some people are really horrible at things, and most people are just average at things.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2603844]OH and one other fine point. If they know you live here they try harder because they want the regular that they can message when they need rent. Vacationers? I don't think they feel any incentive to try harder.[/QUOTE]Very good point there as it's evident with those that live in MDE have a fixed price with regulars.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2603967]Personally, I was seeing ridiculously cheap flights (100) from Miami and Fort Lauderdale to Colombia, so for guys in the Central and Eastern part of the USA, that is the way to go. I do not know why but if you fly American Airlines, it is often half price to do two one ways through Miami than book directly to Colombia. I booked DFW to MIA and then MIA to CTG and got a $200 total one way fare instead of $400 with DFW to CTG. I do not know why.[/QUOTE]That's how the airline algorithms work. Google "skiplagged", airlines are suing this service.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2603988]All the more reason to cast your net wide on FB and don't fixate on any one chica. A sample size of 6 is abysmal, and if you get to 60 it won't stop there. I don't mine any more and I am picky in who I add, subjectively for looks I find attractive, and even so I am over 600 friends, far more than my real account, and I don't even have my picture on the page except when I am there in town.

Agree however their punctuality, flakiness and general unreliability is a huge turn off. Certainly better on repeats but bad generally.[/QUOTE]Probably a stupid question (sorry). Are you keeping a separate FB account for chicas? I tried to open a separate profile and it was blocked within minutes. I don't want my family seeing all the chicas who are suddenly becoming my friends!

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2603590]What a great post trip report, so much damn detail and thank you for the shout out to the Tall Man (me) who was able to offer some advice that was useful for you when you were in my home city of Medellin.

So as I read about your Cartagena chica, one hour for 350 mil then the 50 mil tip for the finders fee, ouch we all have different size pockets for sure.

Yes our Colombia has much to offer in both chicas and also the touristy things to do.

And the biggest contributing factor for me deciding 5 years ago to make Medellin my home versus Cali or Bogota or Cartagena boils down to the climate, I can wear shorts and a tank top in my apartment day and night and never the need for AC or home heating.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I hear you on that Tall Man. If I become fortunate enough to move to Colombia, I might prefer Medellin just for the weather too. The Cartagena chica was the most I paid on this trip. But it reminded me, I was never a bigger bargain to my employer than in the year in which I made about 30% more than normal. There's the price and then there's' what you get for it. That's not to imply that you get more just because you pay more though. For example, the Bar Ejecutiva which you like and I did too is an example of very possibly getting more while paying less.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2603998]If money matters that much, the the expensive clubs will have the best performers on average. I go to both expensive and cheap places and as far as sex is concerned, I don't see that. I have taken girls from the most expensive club in Sao Paulo recently. I am paying like half or a quarter of some other clients are paying based on what she told me after. I simply don't see how she can perform better with more money. I am sure she would choose more money if she is presented with that option. More money probably give you better opportunity.[/QUOTE]You nailed it.

More money might mean better opportunity. It opens doors that would not have opened otherwise. But once you are in, what you may find inside would be altogether a different ball game. She may be a better looking provider, or a provider that provides better service or a provider that wants to limit her exposure by using the money scale to filter the herd or she may be a lousy provider who does it because she can.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2603967]One fucked up thing about going through Mexico is when you go from the USA through Mexico, you do not have to have your bag searched. It can be checked right through. When you are flying up from South America to the USA, probably because of concerns with drugs, you do have to recheck your bag.

Personally, I was seeing ridiculously cheap flights (100) from Miami and Fort Lauderdale to Colombia, so for guys in the Central and Eastern part of the USA, that is the way to go. I do not know why but if you fly American Airlines, it is often half price to do two one ways through Miami than book directly to Colombia. I booked DFW to MIA and then MIA to CTG and got a $200 total one way fare instead of $400 with DFW to CTG. I do not know why.

If you live on the West Coast, I think that Tijuana route is great because you have no Covid tests, no baggage layovers, and the Mexican fares are usually cheap.

Wingo Airlines has really cheap fares to and from Mexico and they are a nice airline that does not often show up on searches.

And I just saw some great prices from Volaris to and from Colombia from Mexico as well.

It is nice to see cheap fares again. Things were nuts for a while.

Anyone here risk flying Spirit and live to tell about it?[/QUOTE]I have booked Spirit for less than $300 are / T with checked in bag. This is might first time to Colombia and first time using Spirit. What are the typical risks and pitfalls of flying Spirit?

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2603988]All the more reason to cast your net wide on FB and don't fixate on any one chica. A sample size of 6 is abysmal, and if you get to 60 it won't stop there. I don't mine any more and I am picky in who I add, subjectively for looks I find attractive, and even so I am over 600 friends, far more than my real account, and I don't even have my picture on the page except when I am there in town.

Agree however their punctuality, flakiness and general unreliability is a huge turn off. Certainly better on repeats but bad generally.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip and agree I should've cast a wider net but how many are you adding and how many have accepted? I think I've added about 200 girls and I'm pretty picky as well and only around 25 have accepted my friend requests over the past month. Seems like a slog and not worth the time and effort when I get more matches and results faster and with less effort through Seeking.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2603987]This was discussed a couple of months ago. They do accept US cards, however when you are registering your card, they send a small fictitious charge to your card account, you have to check that amount on your card website and put that amount into the app before the card is set up to work in the app. I had a minor incident first up before I figured this out, when I ordered food on the app it arrived but defaulted to effectivo (which I did not have). Luckily I was with a SA sweetheart who paid the rest from her purse till we went over to the ATM.[/QUOTE]So I was able to verify the small charge on my account and even gave notice to my bank that I would be using these cards in Colombia and still would receive an error message. It also doesn't explain why Rappi would automatically cancel my grocery orders after I had selected that I would pay in cash upon delivery. No notice or message that my order was cancelled or anything. It just goes from "Shopper is selecting your products" or something in that regard to a black hole of nothingness and zero info after 30 minutes.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2603967]Anyone here risk flying Spirit and live to tell about it?[/QUOTE]I have flown from Fla to MED on American once, on Viva (Colombian Airline) once and Spirit twice, I like Spirit just fine for a low cost airline, no issues so far.

Spirit gets a lot of crap and I am sure some of it is deserved. But I've not had issues with them. They are the only direct flight from MCO to MDE, so fly them for that, if not anything else. Otherwise, I have to drive to FLL. Or take American or Copa from MCO through Miami and Panama City, respectively. I don't like changes of plane for such a relatively short flight.

The Spirit planes I've been on lately have been new. I don't mind paying for a can of Coke. I buy my aisle seat and pay for baggage, but it's usually still cheap. The flights from / to Orlando tend to run on time or even early.

Even during the Sprit meltdown when they were cancelling flights all over, my flights to and from Medellin went without a hitch. And if you have to change your Spirit reservation, they simply take what you paid and apply is to your other flight. No change fees. I really can't complain at all.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2604046]I have booked Spirit for less than $300 are / T with checked in bag. This is might first time to Colombia and first time using Spirit. What are the typical risks and pitfalls of flying Spirit?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2604046]I have booked Spirit for less than $300 are / T with checked in bag. This is might first time to Colombia and first time using Spirit. What are the typical risks and pitfalls of flying Spirit?[/QUOTE]I am not an expert on Spirit but have used them on my recent trip.

First, you need on-line check in 24 hours prior in order to avoid the fees and make sure baggage fee is paid when booking the flight (cost more when paying at the airport).

And, make sure to arrive at the airport three hours before since check-in takes forever, especially in Medellin airport coming back to the states.

Other than that, flight was on-time and nothing to worry about.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2604046]I have booked Spirit for less than $300 are / T with checked in bag. This is might first time to Colombia and first time using Spirit. What are the typical risks and pitfalls of flying Spirit?[/QUOTE]The more connections the more chance of problems. Some of their flights have a very fast connection of an hour so customers miss their connection trying to get across the airport to catch their connecting flight.

My Spirit flight landed 10 minutes early but we could not get an empty gate to unload because some other plane had issues. So we ended up waiting 20 minutes so ended up being 10 minutes late. The next gate had been moved (unknown to some of us running across the airport to the wrong gate). Flight missed. 2 hour wait. So choose a 1.5 - 2.0 hour rather than 1 hour plane change.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2603998]I simply don't see how she can perform better with more money. I am sure she would choose more money if she is presented with that option. More money probably give you better opportunity.[/QUOTE]Nounce,

When the travel ban was in effect (when I thought it would be short) I helped out some women out. I thought if money would ever have an effect it would then when the women really needed it and there were very few gringos around. I figured some women would just forget about my being generous the second they got the cash, and some did, and that is what I would expect almost all women to do in a normal situation.

I think the performance went up a little due to the cash, but I think was more out of appreciation than payment. Some women were in really bad shape then. Every woman I paid showed up (one was late by a day) and all but one went bare with me. Looking back on it, what the money did get me was availability and trust / going bare but not really performance. There were two women I never would have met unless I gave them a little money to keep my place waiting.

I will say though the one thing that did have an effect, and that was a play on self-worth with a sugar baby. I had a prospect who was a great girl but lousy in bed, and she hit me up for cash after we first met. She didn't kiss or give BJs and was like "That is gross. I do not do that. " I told her that I was paying for a woman to please me and giving me a BJ and kissing me pleased me and why would I hang around her when she didn't give a shit about pleasing me.

She promised to do better, and the next time I saw her she was great and fucked the shit out of me bare. She didn't do a BJ or DFK but she promised she would try in the future. I gave her up because of better prospects but the one thing that definitely got me better performance was being critical of how a women performed. I am not sure that would work with a ho though.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2604060]Spirit gets a lot of crap and I am sure some of it is deserved. But I've not had issues with them. They are the only direct flight from MCO to MDE, so fly them for that, if not anything else. Otherwise, I have to drive to FLL. Or take American or Copa from MCO through Miami and Panama City, respectively. I don't like changes of plane for such a relatively short flight.[/QUOTE]And that flight one way is $59 to MDE right now. LOL. I looked at the other airlines and could not find a flight from Florida to Colombia that was over $100. I hope whatever is happening stays this way.

[QUOTE=Belisaj;2604049]... I'm pretty picky as well and only around 25 have accepted my friend requests over the past month. ...[/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean by picky. You can think about it as making connections which helps you get both desirable and non desirable friends much faster. It's work if you study their profiles before friend request, but you don't even need to read their profiles to add them so it should be easy. 200 requests is fewer than the friends many have here.

[QUOTE=Belisaj;2604049]Thanks for the tip and agree I should've cast a wider net but how many are you adding and how many have accepted? I think I've added about 200 girls and I'm pretty picky as well and only around 25 have accepted my friend requests over the past month. Seems like a slog and not worth the time and effort when I get more matches and results faster and with less effort through Seeking.[/QUOTE]I think maybe 1/3 accept, more if you put up content and pictures of yourself, something you need to assess yours comfort level with. Also more accept when I am in town, and when we have friends in common. I also get friend requests sometimes from their other friends after I session. The chicas have their networks and refer/review mongers amongst themselves too. So over time it builds. Other have suggested the mansion as a start, though I did not go this route, it's not a bad way to get familiar with the Medellin scene for a relatively affordable price. As I always say, that intel is worth nearly as much as money in this game. I have a separate FB account and often toggle between the two on my phone, without issue this far. I've tried SA in Medellin and though I will not not knock anyone for using it, if the plan is p4 p it's not as good as FB IMHO. If looking for some sort of trophy arrangement perhaps, but good luck with that with a colombiana. I have not found the casa quality or performance to be up to my expectations other than on a couple sessions.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2602802]Hahahhahahahahahaa jesus christ dude, PM me and use the search function on the forum.[/QUOTE]It appears I'm still a peasant here and need to get paid membership first. I'll slide in your DMs once I figure that out hahaa appreciate the follow up.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2602994]Every once in a while there is a post like this from a Greengo like you. For the few that bother to report back it's a big let down and the analysis starts. Save yourself the trouble, RTFF and set you expectations reasonably, plan well, no dar pappaya and ask here for any specific advise after you do all that. If you are in any doubt, read the CTG thread as there was a similar experience from a dubliner who had a crappy experience. Wise up, there is time yet.[/QUOTE]I read that thread you mentioned and haven't cringed as hard as that in the longest time; I'm pretty dumb but that's some next level shit. In terms of planning I'd say, after reading through this forum semi-religiously the past few weeks -- I'm pretty comfortable with my first 10 days for the time being. I think a lot of it is going to be a bit improvised with first time shenanigans but would you have any advice on a multiple day GF type relationship as a first timer in MDE -- or is it better to just be a kid at the candy store and figure out what I want. I'm personally hesitant about the multiday GF thing but I'm mainly using it as a way to get a guide, learn a bit about the city and have someone to go out with at night.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2604192]I think maybe 1/3 accept, more if you put up content and pictures of yourself, something you need to assess yours comfort level with. Also more accept when I am in town, and when we have friends in common. I also get friend requests sometimes from their other friends after I session. The chicas have their networks and refer/review mongers amongst themselves too. So over time it builds. Other have suggested the mansion as a start, though I did not go this route, it's not a bad way to get familiar with the Medellin scene for a relatively affordable price. As I always say, that intel is worth nearly as much as money in this game. I have a separate FB account and often toggle between the two on my phone, without issue this far. I've tried SA in Medellin and though I will not not knock anyone for using it, if the plan is p4 p it's not as good as FB IMHO. If looking for some sort of trophy arrangement perhaps, but good luck with that with a colombiana. I have not found the casa quality or performance to be up to my expectations other than on a couple sessions.[/QUOTE]Lets face and all get real here, at the end of the day we all are basically fucking the same chicas, some right after the next slinging dick while others are a week or month or even a few years later.

Sharing is caring and so basically we all share the girls.

I have seen this played out so many times as I live in Medellin for almost 5 years now. Just one very recent example and I have dozens and dozens of these is my special girl who stayed with me in my apartment for 7 months during the lock down last year, my gawd 7 months with 2 cute sweethearts at my beckon call day or night, well she finally found a gringo guy from Miami early this year, he looks like a cool guy so hats off and hope they are good to each other. Again just one recent example which I see weekly now.

Never forget guys, "she is not your girl rather it's only your turn" and this is so true especially here in Colombia.

Much love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2604028]Probably a stupid question (sorry). Are you keeping a separate FB account for chicas? I tried to open a separate profile and it was blocked within minutes. I don't want my family seeing all the chicas who are suddenly becoming my friends![/QUOTE]You do not have to friend chicas on Facebook. You can just private message with them--most of them prefer WhatsApp anyway, so switch to there as soon as you can.

You gain nothing by friending these girls. The point is to find them and message with them, not to see what they post on their timelines or for them to be able to snoop your profile.

If you are not friends with them. You can message them and they can message you just the same.

I have never understood wy so many of you insist on 'friending' these girls and then spend so much energy trying to work around that when there is zero reson to be friends with them in the 1st place.

Find a girl you like on FB, send her a private message. She will respond or not--they don't care if you are 'friends' or not they care if you pay them a rate that works for them--and that's all figured out in messenger and WhatsAPp not on Facebook timelines and walls.

Friending these girls is pretty stupid IMO and I don't understand how, for years, I seem to be one of very very few people who thinks this way.

Questions to the seasoned, to the expats, the long-terms in Medellin:

* What is late October like in Medellin from October 18 to November 7 range?

** Temperature and seasonal atmosphere?

I've heard the "City of Eternal Spring" mentioned more than once so temperature wise it should be fine, but is it rainy everyday?

** Are there Colombian holidays to consider that really shuts down the city, its women?

Are there national or religious holidays that cripple the city.

** How does Colombia treat Halloween?

I've been in Europe for several Halloweens. If there are expat bar, they push it and the Euros arrive and love a good costume party. Great atmosphere in the cities and it seems to have grown. Any idea how Halloween is regarded in Medellin?

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2604213]You do not have to friend chicas on Facebook. You can just private message with them--most of them prefer WhatsApp anyway, so switch to there as soon as you can.

You gain nothing by friending these girls. The point is to find them and message with them, not to see what they post on their timelines or for them to be able to snoop your profile.

If you are not friends with them. You can message them and they can message you just the same.

I have never understood wy so many of you insist on 'friending' these girls and then spend so much energy trying to work around that when there is zero reson to be friends with them in the 1st place.

Find a girl you like on FB, send her a private message. She will respond or not--they don't care if you are 'friends' or not they care if you pay them a rate that works for them--and that's all figured out in messenger and WhatsAPp not on Facebook timelines and walls.

Friending these girls is pretty stupid IMO and I don't understand how, for years, I seem to be one of very very few people who thinks this way.[/QUOTE]I've learned that if everyone is going one direction and I'm going the other direction there's a good chance I'm going the wrong way.

If you have to worry that friends, family or your employer will find out you're mongering in Colombia, stay off Facebook and stay out of Colombia, because there will always be a risk your activities will be discovered.

If you're going to use Facebook, you're not really minimizing your exposure by not friending the girls, you're just limiting your options.

If you're just going off of girls reviewed by other mongers, there's no need to add friends, you can just keep sending messages to the same 20 or 30 girls until you get a reply.

However, there are some reasons why you should add the girls. Every reason doesn't apply to everyone.

1. Some accounts are fake, just used to scam money or sell pictures. If you're seeing their daily updates it's pretty easy to figure out which girls are a waste of time.

2. Some girls travel. There's no need to wait 2 hours for a reply when the girl just posted from Panama City.

3. Some girls are impacted by major events, death in the family, sick pet, or showing symptoms of Covid. The day of the funeral probably isn't the best time to ask if she wants to fuck.

4. Some girls have hot friends, hot friends who have never been with a gringo.

5. New girls are turning 18 all the time. It's helpful to know when they celebrated, especially if the girl has been telling you for 7 months that she's 18, but just had a birthday party yesterday.

6. Knowledge is a good thing. If you pay attention you can learn a lot about the girls from what they put on Facebook.

7. When other plans fall through, pop open messenger and you can see who is active. Right now I have 144 friends active. I don't need to hope I can find someone. I know who will receive my message instantly.

8. 1,000 girls are hard to keep track of. My favorite from last trip might have put on 40# since I last saw her. Another one might be pregnant, or with a jealous boyfriend. Every day it takes me about 5 minutes to see who is looking good.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2604213]You do not have to friend chicas on Facebook. You can just private message with them--most of them prefer WhatsApp anyway, so switch to there as soon as you can.

You gain nothing by friending these girls. The point is to find them and message with them, not to see what they post on their timelines or for them to be able to snoop your profile.

[/QUOTE]I feel like I must be missing something about your style of FB mongering. Please explain it to me. I feel like waiting to the last minute to message a chica is not a method that would work out for me. I think that would lead to a 50 50 chance of getting flaked on. I guess that if that is your style that you have your reasons than that is fine for you but I do not think it would achieve the kind of results that I look for.

Maybe we have different organizational styles because for me organizing is a big part of finding them and I cannot see how one can do this without "friending" the chicas. I also have noticed that chicas are about half as likely to reply to me when I am not in their friends list. It can be done, I have done it but I have found my chances are better if I am in their friends list. Also I like to avoid the flakey ones that will be no-shows and I need to build a rapport to do this. I am also curious of how you "find" them in the first place before you message them? Without already having chicas in your friends list to go off of, how does one go about finding them? There are some extremely gorgeous (IMHO) chicas on FB but they were not that easy to find.

This leaves me wonder if I have a different attitude too because to me it is about finding what I think are the hottest of the hottest chicas. I realize tastes can vary but there is a variety of prepagos on FB no matter your tastes. For me the numkber of gorgeos chicas is about 1 out of 50 of the prepagos that I have found on FB and maybe less than that. I have over 2500 "friends" of which maybe 50 are gorgeous. Over the last couple of years, a little bit of time here and there and it has probably taken me a cumulative hours to do this. Now it feeds itself.

By chicas showing up in my "people you may know" and "friend requests" feeds. These are the honeys that are like finding the special eater egg with the prize in it.

Gorgeous women are out there but one has to look for them. It takes time and effort to cultivate a crop of truely gorgeous women, no matter your preferences. I find that a person needs an organized method to do this and for me that has meant have chicas in my friend list who will cause other putas to send me friend requests and to cause other chicas to show up in my "people you may know feed".

It has been also covered here a several times that one should have a FB profile used just for mongering, I have been made aware that this has becaome increasingly difficult and FB has been cracking down more on duplicate profiles (you could not tell that from Lleraldine Gomez who has a least 8 profiles that I have seen).

If a person is unable to start a profile just for nmongering there is a function that can be done to "restrict" even your friends from seeing anything that you do not post as "public" - once you are friends with them you go to there profile andclick on the button that says "friends" then a menu pops up that has "unfollow" "unfriend" and also it says "edit freind list" and when you click on that another menu pops up and one of the choices is "restricted" , click on that and they cannot see anything on your profile that you have not made public (which is what anyone who you are not "friends" with can see).

Another aspect of this "edit friends list" can be found if you go to your FB home page and on the left side is a menu of options, you will see "friends" - click on this and another menu comes up where you find an item called "custom lists" scroll to the bottom and click on "create list" and you can organize lists of friends in any types of lists you want. I have lists for chicas in various places like Cali, Barranquilla, Cuba, etc. And for example I have a list called "Top Chicas" - now when I go to make a post there is a shaded box that shows who my "audience", more times than not by default is says "friends" or maybe even "public" but I can click on that and a box pops up to let me choose my audience, and if I scroll it shows my custom lists, so if I want to anounce that I am going to Medellin but I only want my Top Chicas to know this, that is the audience that I would choose.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2604332]I feel like I must be missing something about your style of FB mongering. Please explain it to me. I feel like waiting to the last minute to message a chica is not a method that would work out for me.[/QUOTE]I said before about these chicks trying to add me because I guess they are friends of my friends. You do not have to add them. You simply send them a message saying I will be in Medellin soon. Give me your whatsapp and I will contact you when I am there. Then you save the number in your phone so that when you go to whatsapp and search fb mde or however you saved them, the chicks pop up. Seems something complicated is being made of something very simple.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2604332]I feel like I must be missing something about your style of FB mongering. Please explain it to me. I feel like waiting to the last minute to message a chica is not a method that would work out for me. I think that would lead to a 50 50 chance of getting flaked on. I guess that if that is your style that you have your reasons than that is fine for you but I do not think it would achieve the kind of results that I look for.

Maybe we have different organizational styles because for me organizing is a big part of finding them and I cannot see how one can do this without "friending" the chicas. I also have noticed that chicas are about half as likely to reply to me when I am not in their friends list. It can be done, I have done it but I have found my chances are better if I am in their friends list. Also I like to avoid the flakey ones that will be no-shows and I need to build a rapport to do this. I am also curious of how you "find" them in the first place before you message them? Without already having chicas in your friends list to go off of, how does one go about finding them?.[/QUOTE]I feel like waiting to the last minute to message a chica is not a method that would work out for me. I think that would lead to a 50 50 chance of getting flaked on. I guess that if that is your style that you have your reasons than that is fine for you but I do not think it would achieve the kind of results that I look for.

Show me where I said anything about waiting until the last minute. You can't, because I didn't. You do realize that you and a girl can send an unlimited amount of messages and private, through messenger for as ong as you want without ever actually 'friending' each other, don't you?

I also have noticed that chicas are about half as likely to reply to me when I am not in their friends list.

I have not noticed this at all. The only reason a chica won't reply is if she thinks you aren't going to pay what she wants.

I am also curious of how you "find" them in the first place before you message them?

There are a few I have as friends-not many, just ones I have seen already and would see again-that's a very small list-- you can see friends lists from people you aren't friends with. Perhaps you can see more if chicas setting limit who can see their friends to only friends. But, it is rare that a facebook girl does that IMO.

This leaves me wonder if I have a different attitude too because to me it is about finding what I think are the hottest of the hottest chicas.

I think this furthers my style, not yours. Why bother being friends with 200 you just said you don't think are very hot? Why friend average chicas? All I want is the hottest-no need for hundreds of friends when hundreds aren't the hottest!

As far as restricted lists, custom lists, editing friends lists, and 2nd profiles. Seems like a lot of work when all you have to do is just message with them without friending them to accomplish these goals.

Are the ONLY women you find found through 'friends' ?? I doubt it,. Usually its through friends lists of girls you aren't friends with. Ike friends of friends. Maybe you get more girls on your list--but I can't see how / why friending hundreds of chicas in Medellin is anything but wasting time and trying to validate the ego by saying look at all these girls I found! As if that is some college degree needing skill LOL.

Go on facebook. Find 'Medellin Rich' or any of the well known chicas out there--mine their friends lists-click on the ones you like, if they posted recently--check their friends lists--and if you want send them and those friends messages. This isn't very complicated and is often made out to be much more than it really is.

I have been in and out of MDE for almost a decade now. Barely 'friending' any of them. Yet finding more than enough top quality talent to enjoy my time. And rarely do I need or want to message and begin the chat more than a couple of weeks before my next arrival--that's just wasting time.

The one's I am interested in-I send a photo with the view from where I am staying and a note that lets them know I am in MDE and ready. That's all they care about $$.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2604340]I said before about these chicks trying to add me because I guess they are friends of my friends. You do not have to add them. You simply send them a message saying I will be in Medellin soon. Give me your whatsapp and I will contact you when I am there. Then you save the number in your phone so that when you go to whatsapp and search fb mde or however you saved them, the chicks pop up. Seems something complicated is being made of something very simple.[/QUOTE]Keep it simple.

Just a quick message. Short and to the point. Get the whatsapp and off of the FB ASAP for more efficient results.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2604340] these chicks trying to add me because I guess they are friends of my friends. [/QUOTE]You are just proving my point. You say "I guess they are friends of my friends". At some point you added someone as a friend that led the chica to try to add you. My goal is probably different than the averag monger. I am tring to find the largest number of gorgeous chicas that I can. So I need the largest net that I can have. That means the more chicas I add the more request I will get. The more that will show up in my "people you may know". Many of my contacts to not even have any gringos in their friends lists, those are my favorites.

All the back and forth here in respect to the correlation of performance with price and other variables, somewhat comically overlooks perhaps the most obvious variable. Obvious at least to anyone who has been in long term relationships: Namely: Is the chica On or Off-the pill? If OFF, where is she in her monthly menstrual / estrous cycle?

According to the grounding 2007 research of two University of New Mexico professors (and winner of a tongue-in-cheek Ignoble Science Award), who collected data from a large sample of lapdancers in strip clubs: "While ovulating, and therefore the most fertile strippers made an average of $30 per hour more than menstruating women and $15 per hour more than women elsewhere in their cycles. Women on the pill, who typically don't ovulate, made significantly less than naturally cycling women overall and had no "estrus earning peak. SEE: [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/magazine/09lapdance.html?smid=em-share[/URL].

Of course, all of the above just helps explain the variation in performance by any one, specific chica--from howling orgasm one day with one client to indifferent performance (or simulated O's) on another day with another monger. The larger debate about performance --I. E. Do you get what you pay for? No doubt will echo on in these pages unresolved /.

As an addendum to my prior post on Estrous Cycles and Performance: Maybe the lap-dancers in estrous are just more proactive and flirtatious in marketing their wares. Or perhaps they are secreting pheromones that waft through the air, prompting the unsuspecting ogler to open his wallet. Or both of the above.

As I have fantasized, one could apply the New Mexico research findings to the management of one's stable of chica regulars. For example, only recruit working girls who are off the Pill, and then organize your chica rotation so that each week you only see those who are in estrous (I. E. In full heat). This of, course, would add a serious Russian Roulette aspect to mongering in Bareback mode.

Just got back from El Centro. Can't understand why anyone would be scared of visiting there during the day.

There was girls ranging from 1 (closer to 0, she looked about 70) to 7/8. A few looked young though so you have to be careful.

Ended up with a paisa spinner called Gabriella, she had a really pretty face, athletic body with a nice ass. The only things wrong were she had a lot of tattoos (which I don't mind but some might) and she had them stupid slug eyebrows that are fashionable now.

Had a good session for around 30 minutes for 50 k plus 7 k for the room.

The best looking girls there were just as nice as the girls in Parque Lleras the other night.

Really enjoyed El Centro and will return tomorrow. Only explored the area around Veracruz. Need to try and find Raudal Street tomorrow and try and find some casas.

If anyone else is around would be happy to exchange a tour for me buying you a session with a girl there.

Took a taxi there and back as my legs are aching off all these hills in El Poblado and legs chaffing together. Getting a taxi on Uber or Cabify isn't easy here. Will take the metro next time.

Used Uber twice this morning with no problem now it won't work with either of my cards. Says there's a problem with this payment method, anyone had this happen to them before?

Also random question, why the hell do the shops here only sell milk in bags? So strange.

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2604303]Questions to the seasoned, to the expats, the long-terms in Medellin:

* What is late October like in Medellin from October 18 to November 7 range?

** Temperature and seasonal atmosphere?

I've heard the "City of Eternal Spring" mentioned more than once so temperature wise it should be fine, but is it rainy everyday?

** Are there Colombian holidays to consider that really shuts down the city, its women?

Are there national or religious holidays that cripple the city.

** How does Colombia treat Halloween?

I've been in Europe for several Halloweens. If there are expat bar, they push it and the Euros arrive and love a good costume party. Great atmosphere in the cities and it seems to have grown. Any idea how Halloween is regarded in Medellin?[/QUOTE]The last time I counted, Colombia has 26 official holidays, most are celebrated on Monday. On average there's a 3 day weekend every other week.

Most holidays just mean an extra day for the weekend. They don't have much of an effect on the mongering situation. The exceptions are Easter and Christmas. Both shutdown things for a week. There are still options available, but not as many.

Halloween is widely celebrated in Medellin. Slutty costumes will be in abundance. There will be plenty of Halloween parties, clubs will be packed and you should have a good time.

Temperature ranges from about 60°F at night to 85°F daytime.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2604340]I said before about these chicks trying to add me because I guess they are friends of my friends. You do not have to add them. You simply send them a message saying I will be in Medellin soon. Give me your whatsapp and I will contact you when I am there. Then you save the number in your phone so that when you go to whatsapp and search fb mde or however you saved them, the chicks pop up. Seems something complicated is being made of something very simple.[/QUOTE]The flaw in your method is the risk that a girl has the almost completely unheard of happen, she loses her phone and ends up with a new number. I know, I know. It's crazy to think that any prepago in Medellin could ever lose her phone or have it stolen, but it does happen. It seems like it happens to almost every single prepago.

My Facebook feed has a few messages every week from women who lost their phone and want everyone to send their Whatsapp number so they can rebuild their contact list.

My friend list isn't just for me. Many girls get added who I have no interest in. On occasion I'm with someone who is looking for something different. Rather than travel to different casas or strip clubs looking for a plus size girl, I just spend a few minutes, let them find a fatty and everyone is happy.

Another advantage is it helps my selective memory. If I've been with a girl and consider her worth a repeat, she's probably in my WhatsApp. When her name comes up, I know who I'm dealing with. If she's just a girl who I added, but never followed through with, I have to read whatever messages were exchanged to get an idea whether she was someone I was excited about. If we're friends on Facebook I'm getting daily reminders of who is getting better and who is going downhill. I'm seeing which ones are heavy party animals and which ones are more laid back. I'm seeing which ones are working and which ones are whining.

As I said before, it also takes the work out of seeing who is interested and who isn't. Last trip I posted a photo of Medellin from the air and had over 20 girls message me in less than 48 hours. Sending Whatsapp messages to 20 girls, who I already had to message to get their Whatsapp seems like more work than glancing at 20 messages, with their Facebook profiles 1 click away.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2604373]As an addendum to my prior post on Estrous Cycles and Performance: Maybe the lap-dancers in estrous are just more proactive and flirtatious in marketing their wares. Or perhaps they are secreting pheromones that waft through the air, prompting the unsuspecting ogler to open his wallet. Or both of the above.

As I have fantasized, one could apply the New Mexico research findings to the management of one's stable of chica regulars. For example, only recruit working girls who are off the Pill, and then organize your chica rotation so that each week you only see those who are in estrous (I. E. In full heat). This of, course, would add a serious Russian Roulette aspect to mongering in Bareback mode.[/QUOTE]Funny how so many want to turn mongering into a science but it will always be everything but.

Update on my recent post re facebook and second accounts. It seems that FB are getting good at spotting multiple accounts being set up. I tried and the new account was blocked. But in settings. Privacy you can stop anyone seeing your friends list. That affords a decent level of privacy so current friends don't see a rash of new Colombian friends with sexy profile photos!

Another stupid question. That ratio of ladies have a good grasp of English? I'm learning Spanish as fast as I can, and I don't want to insult anyone by speaking English and assuming they can understand, but a middle ground would be great. Do people communicate with FB girls in English at all? Or do you stick to Spanish?

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2604385]Funny how so many want to turn mongering into a science but it will always be everything but.[/QUOTE]Be careful of taking posts too literally. I was just sharing (and riffing a bit) on some entertaining research--a study which, in the late Senator Proxmire's day, would have qualified for one of his Golden Fleece awards. Like most one and all posting here, my operative mode of mongering comes closer to "winging it" day-to-day than anything that would ever pretend to be scientific.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2604375]Also random question, why the hell do the shops here only sell milk in bags? So strange.[/QUOTE]It reduces plastic waste. They also sell ketchup and many other condiments in bags.

I get friend requests all the time on FB which has sometimes lead to pleasant encounters but you have to keep up your guard. Just now I got one from a new account with a hot profile photo. "She" was super flirty in her messages right off the bat, even sending a photo of her pussy unprompted. With those kind of red flags I immediately did a reverse image search and sure enough, she was using a photo stolen from a Ukrainian instagram model. I asked if she would send a real photo of herself and when she played dumb and insisted it was her I just sent her a different photo of the same model, challenging her to explain how I was able to do that. Suddenly she was very quiet and within moments her profile was unreachable.

I don't know what was the point of her little stunt--hoping I'd send money or buy "her" nudes?

[QUOTE=CollegeKidJay;2604194]It appears I'm still a peasant here and need to get paid membership first. I'll slide in your DMs once I figure that out hahaa appreciate the follow up.

I read that thread you mentioned and haven't cringed as hard as that in the longest time; I'm pretty dumb but that's some next level shit. In terms of planning I'd say, after reading through this forum semi-religiously the past few weeks -- I'm pretty comfortable with my first 10 days for the time being. I think a lot of it is going to be a bit improvised with first time shenanigans but would you have any advice on a multiple day GF type relationship as a first timer in MDE -- or is it better to just be a kid at the candy store and figure out what I want. I'm personally hesitant about the multiday GF thing but I'm mainly using it as a way to get a guide, learn a bit about the city and have someone to go out with at night.[/QUOTE]In the multiple day girl friended thing. Just take it day by day, some of them you have good chemistry with can come hang out, go with you and fuck if you work something out with them. Committing to anything longer than an afternoon or evening first up is not sensible, you can always extend, repeat, or shack up after observing a while.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2604361]You are just proving my point. You say "I guess they are friends of my friends". At some point you added someone as a friend that led the chica to try to add you. My goal is probably different than the averag monger. I am tring to find the largest number of gorgeous chicas that I can. So I need the largest net that I can have. That means the more chicas I add the more request I will get. The more that will show up in my "people you may know". Many of my contacts to not even have any gringos in their friends lists, those are my favorites.[/QUOTE]This makes sense to me.

Just finished a session with a mixed race girl from Parque Lleras called Kelly. Paid her 200 and she was a great fuck, gave me a couple of hits of her see too.

She had a really pretty face, nice ass but the only thing that let her down a bit was slightly saggy tits. I'd still give her a 8 despite that.

There was a few girls tonight I'd rate an 8 but most were 7 and under. Most of the girls were no better than the lookers in El Centro. As reported on here, some of them might work both.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2604398]Be careful of taking posts too literally. I was just sharing (and riffing a bit) on some entertaining research--a study which, in the late Senator Proxmire's day, would have qualified for one of his Golden Fleece awards. Like most one and all posting here, my operative mode of mongering comes closer to "winging it" day-to-day than anything that would ever pretend to be scientific.[/QUOTE]I was just pulling your leg.

Something my dad always said, "ask for what you want. " Do that with the chicas, and more importantly, get to know some good people in some good venues and you'll likely get what you want in Medellin. That's the ulta unscientific, Cliff Notes version.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2604375]Took a taxi there and back as my legs are aching off all these hills in El Poblado and legs chaffing together. Getting a taxi on Uber or Cabify isn't easy here. Will take the metro next time.[/QUOTE]You need to download InDriver. That is the in app for rideshare now.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2604489]You need to download InDriver. That is the in app for rideshare now.[/QUOTE]Will do, thanks Mr E.

Is hotel Du Parc girl friendly? If not, what are some decent hotels near Parque LLeres and Botera that are?

Thanks and happy hunting.

Snook.

[QUOTE=Snook;2604597]Is hotel Du Parc girl friendly? If not, what are some decent hotels near Parque LLeres and Botera that are?

Thanks and happy hunting.

Snook.[/QUOTE]Yes. Normally, they take down the info of the guest. So, make sure the chica has a cedula, and it's not a fake. You don't want to start off your 10-day stay with a Vennie or a younger-looking girl that gets denied trying to use her cousin's ID. That would make for an awkward all-eyes-on-you type of week.

They also have a decent breakfast, and it's a quick walk to Lleras, Provenza, Parque Poblado, Carulla, etc.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2604394]... Another stupid question. That ratio of ladies have a good grasp of English? I'm learning Spanish as fast as I can, and I don't want to insult anyone by speaking English and assuming they can understand, but a middle ground would be great. Do people communicate with FB girls in English at all? Or do you stick to Spanish?[/QUOTE]Strictly Spanish. There are a few P4P Facebook ladies who can communicate in English, but very few.

[QUOTE=Talon;2604445]I don't know what was the point of her little stunt--hoping I'd send money or buy "her" nudes?[/QUOTE]Yea, that's exactly what she's hoping for. There are girls that post pictures in nice places but also send you a pix of an empty fridge asking for money or trying to sell you hot pics.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2604394]Update on my recent post re facebook and second accounts. It seems that FB are getting good at spotting multiple accounts being set up. I tried and the new account was blocked. But in settings. Privacy you can stop anyone seeing your friends list. That affords a decent level of privacy so current friends don't see a rash of new Colombian friends with sexy profile photos!

[/QUOTE]Here is another level of privacy that can help this situation also. I do not know if you read my earlier post discussing this issue. But here is another thing people do. When you add the chicas as FB friends you want to add them to your "restricted" list. Here is how: once you are "friends" on FB, go to their profile, click the button that indicates they are your friend, its a grey button that says Friends and has a silhouette with a check mark. Click on that and a menu pops up where there are options like "unfriend" , "unfollow" etc and there is an option that says "Edit Friend List" and then another menu pops up with little squares next to the options and you find "restricted". Now they can only see posts and photos that you post to "public".

The reason for this is so that when you make a post for your regular friends and family to see and all of sudden you get 10 to 50 "likes" from chicas in Colombia then your regular friends will see this and so still be able to look at those chicas profiles but if the chicas are in your restricted list then they will not see your posts as long as you are not make the audience of the post "Public".

I've heard dating, especially early on, Colombian girls are flaky. Notorious for being late, no show, ghost. Not concerned about that.

My concern is with online escort agencies and online independents. Any information about if you see a girl on lacelestina. Co or co. [URL]miletoticos.com[/URL]? My question is, once the conversation locks down time, place, fee, are these women flaky to an concerning degree that they could skip an agreed schedule? Or, are they just late? (Which is not isolated to Colombian woman! Jajajajaja). Have read on here in recent days about guys with regulars, they set up a day and time, but chica is 2+ hours late.

From some outreach so far, they are more than willing to engage, explain prices per 1/2 HR or hour rates. All good, well, and fine, but going back to the question above. I am expecting professionalism and that the COP secures the session, but real life experiences would be helpful to manage my expectations. Depending, it may mean considering double book some times.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2604406]It reduces plastic waste. They also sell ketchup and many other condiments in bags.[/QUOTE]Aww that makes sense, thanks for the reply.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2604464]Just finished a session with a mixed race girl from Parque Lleras called Kelly. Paid her 200 and she was a great fuck, gave me a couple of hits of her see too.

She had a really pretty face, nice ass but the only thing that let her down a bit was slightly saggy tits. I'd still give her a 8 despite that.

There was a few girls tonight I'd rate an 8 but most were 7 and under. Most of the girls were no better than the lookers in El Centro. As reported on here, some of them might work both.[/QUOTE]I was out there last night, little dude, cool demeanor. There was a lot of ass out there last night. I was going to take the paisa with the juicy booty ,200 mil she said. There was some choices. The slim athletic looking girl made me curios she wanted 300 k I was going to wait her out. The one I was going to pick couldn't give me a correct age, said 19 and rolled her eyes so I passed. Called Laura bustamante today. Best chick in town. Just finished my second session. Speaks English and very informative. Got my Covid test today so now I can hit gustos. See yall in the park tonight!!

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2604706]I was out there last night, little dude, cool demeanor. There was a lot of ass out there last night. I was going to take the paisa with the juicy booty ,200 mil she said. There was some choices. The slim athletic looking girl made me curios she wanted 300 k I was going to wait her out. The one I was going to pick couldn't give me a correct age, said 19 and rolled her eyes so I passed. Called Laura bustamante today. Best chick in town. Just finished my second session. Speaks English and very informative. Got my Covid test today so now I can hit gustos. See yall in the park tonight!![/QUOTE]Laura is fantastic! She's my go to day time girl. She does tours, can give massage, speaks excellent english.

I smashed my el centro big booty chick yesterday. Name Katerina. She trying to get me to give her 200 mil to come Off of the strip and come to my apartment. She had an all but I am not paying 150 more pesos when I can get you for 50 at El Centro. You may have noticed the little short Paisa chick in El Centro with the blue tights on the fat ass. If you can get that get that it was real good service she put that booty on me roll me backwards and everything. I have her what's up she wants 250 to come off the strip as well. Went to the massage places on the map that ware close to new life. Went to New life. My PTSD kicked in and I couldn't remember the correct number and picked the wrong girl LOL. I was a little bummed LOL. Facebook girls have treated me good I have repeated three times because the service so good. Michelle Vargas is a crazed sex beast. 200 k and we have chemistry. I don't like to repeat but head and tongue game crazy. I struggle finishing with her both times though. She called at 4 am and came over so that's crazy. Best service I had in town. The personal attention I get from the facebook girls is addicting. Haven't had a bad one yet. Tonight might be a park girl. Three more nights!!

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2604708]Laura is fantastic! She's my go to day time girl. She does tours, can give massage, speaks excellent english.[/QUOTE]Yes, knows food places, takes my soul, and good tourist stuff. Glad I kept in touch over the last 2 years. I love her LOL.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2603155]Anyone have anymore details about this incident? Popped up on FB, Says he was found dead in a hotel. I cannot find a well written story about it. Says he was missing for few days? He could not have been dead that long. He was traveling with friends so it doesn't make sense that he did not contact them for days. Sounds shady as fuck. Like how did the people get into his hotel? Etc etc?

[URL]https://bronx.news12.com/bronx-native-found-dead-in-colombia-family-tried-to-convince-him-to-stay?fbclid=IwAR1mJD438C12eOK7CLN6Ph_JOtncCA_LY15vpx9kURGuipNoYhd4FWAZtP8[/URL]

[/QUOTE]Apparantly they are now saying that he was definitely poisoned.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2604375]

Also random question, why the hell do the shops here only sell milk in bags? So strange.[/QUOTE]Most apartments that I have rented in the past have a special pitcher that is the same size as the bag, so you put the bag in that pitcher and cut off the corner, put the lid on the pitcher and it pours just fine.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2604710]I smashed my el centro big booty chick yesterday. Name Katerina. She trying to get me to give her 200 mil to come Off of the strip and come to my apartment. She had an all but I am not paying 150 more pesos when I can get you for 50 at El Centro. You may have noticed the little short Paisa chick in El Centro with the blue tights on the fat ass. If you can get that get that it was real good service she put that booty on me roll me backwards and everything. I have her what's up she wants 250 to come off the strip as well. Went to the massage places on the map that ware close to new life. Went to New life. My PTSD kicked in and I couldn't remember the correct number and picked the wrong girl LOL. I was a little bummed LOL. Facebook girls have treated me good I have repeated three times because the service so good. Michelle Vargas is a crazed sex beast. 200 k and we have chemistry. I don't like to repeat but head and tongue game crazy. I struggle finishing with her both times though. She called at 4 am and came over so that's crazy. Best service I had in town. The personal attention I get from the facebook girls is addicting. Haven't had a bad one yet. Tonight might be a park girl. Three more nights!![/QUOTE]Is this Michelle?

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2604706]I was out there last night, little dude, cool demeanor. There was a lot of ass out there last night. I was going to take the paisa with the juicy booty ,200 mil she said. There was some choices. The slim athletic looking girl made me curios she wanted 300 k I was going to wait her out. The one I was going to pick couldn't give me a correct age, said 19 and rolled her eyes so I passed. Called Laura bustamante today. Best chick in town. Just finished my second session. Speaks English and very informative. Got my Covid test today so now I can hit gustos. See yall in the park tonight!![/QUOTE]Do you need a test to go to Gusto's? Never even tried because I've heard it's a rip off.

If you see a pale Englishman with a shaved sun burned head and glasses on, say Hello, jaja.

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2604675]I've heard dating, especially early on, Colombian girls are flaky. Notorious for being late, no show, ghost. Not concerned about that.

My concern is with online escort agencies and online independents. Any information about if you see a girl on lacelestina. Co or co. [URL]miletoticos.com[/URL]? My question is, once the conversation locks down time, place, fee, are these women flaky to an concerning degree that they could skip an agreed schedule? Or, are they just late? (Which is not isolated to Colombian woman! Jajajajaja). Have read on here in recent days about guys with regulars, they set up a day and time, but chica is 2+ hours late.

From some outreach so far, they are more than willing to engage, explain prices per 1/2 HR or hour rates. All good, well, and fine, but going back to the question above. I am expecting professionalism and that the COP secures the session, but real life experiences would be helpful to manage my expectations. Depending, it may mean considering double book some times.[/QUOTE]So far all the girls I've connected with through those online websites have been very professional. But I always go to them. Because I know I can be on time and early LOL. Ironically I've only had girls flake on me once I already had seen them and then tried to set something up again later at night. But day time visits going to their spot haven't had any trouble, flakiness, lateness, etc. Most of those girls on mileroticos, pasionpregagos, etc are working out of unnamed brothels and the guys running those joints are about their business.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2604375]Also random question, why the hell do the shops here only sell milk in bags? So strange.[/QUOTE]They sell beer that way in China.

Beautiful weather. The beautiful chicas seem to always end up being Vennies for me. I've been paying up charges for photos one girl charged me 10 mil per photo and I let her pick which ones to delete at the end, that ended up being 80 mil, no problems no worries there since what I pay does not affect any other monger's price as has been proven in every free market in the world for over a hundred years by the Law of Supply and Demand.

The supply is putas or number of wet holes. The demand is number is cocks or buyers of sex that's and that us all the laymans' terms you need to know, jajaja. Otherwise, you are just in denial of a concept you do not grasp, actually a quite simple concept.

Every Monger should pay what he feels he is comfortable doing so. When you don't pay the price that has been set by the market, you run the risk of not getting the girls you chose which has been already shown here. The Hallmark of a good deal is when both parties are satisfied. One of my miniature Vinnie's today was obviously satisfied as she offered up her sister to me for tomorrow. She kept saying her sister was just as small as her and more beautiful. I told her if she was half as beautiful as her I would be satisfied. She said they would both come to my hotel my hotel tomorrow but not sure I want to do that up charge, we'll see how she looks.

Fotos are all from today. That is the Veracruz Church behind the trees at Ground Zero from the third floor of Zona Rosa Hotel. And I don't know if this has been mentioned before but the standard block for love motels 3 hours I was paying 30 mil today but typically a girl is not going to stay longer than 30 minutes for the for the bottom price she will give you so technically if you had them standing in the hallway you could get in six girls.

Obviously there's turn over time so 4 is more realistic but don't check out and check back in, keep your room open and don't double pay I don't if guys have ever fallen prey to that mistake, but I don't know if the hotel would correct. Ostee out. I'm still posting from my phone and it's a PITA.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2604672]Here is another level of privacy that can help this situation also. I do not know if you read my earlier post discussing this issue. But here is another thing people do. When you add the chicas as FB friends you want to add them to your "restricted" list. Here is how: once you are "friends" on FB, go to their profile, click the button that indicates they are your friend, its a grey button that says Friends and has a silhouette with a check mark. Click on that and a menu pops up where there are options like "unfriend" , "unfollow" etc and there is an option that says "Edit Friend List" and then another menu pops up with little squares next to the options and you find "restricted". Now they can only see posts and photos that you post to "public".

The reason for this is so that when you make a post for your regular friends and family to see and all of sudden you get 10 to 50 "likes" from chicas in Colombia then your regular friends will see this and so still be able to look at those chicas profiles but if the chicas are in your restricted list then they will not see your posts as long as you are not make the audience of the post "Public".[/QUOTE]Awesome advice, thank you!

If it matters to you, the girls will accept 30 K.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2604375]Just got back from El Centro. Can't understand why anyone would be scared of visiting there during the day.

There was girls ranging from 1 (closer to 0, she looked about 70) to 7/8. A few looked young though so you have to be careful.

Ended up with a paisa spinner called Gabriella, she had a really pretty face, athletic body with a nice ass. The only things wrong were she had a lot of tattoos (which I don't mind but some might) and she had them stupid slug eyebrows that are fashionable now.

Had a good session for around 30 minutes for 50 k plus 7 k for the room.

The best looking girls there were just as nice as the girls in Parque Lleras the other night.

Really enjoyed El Centro and will return tomorrow. Only explored the area around Veracruz. Need to try and find Raudal Street tomorrow and try and find some casas.

If anyone else is around would be happy to exchange a tour for me buying you a session with a girl there.

Took a taxi there and back as my legs are aching off all these hills in El Poblado and legs chaffing together. Getting a taxi on Uber or Cabify isn't easy here. Will take the metro next time..[/QUOTE]

The Day of Love and Friendship is celebrated the third Saturday of September every year in Colombia. This is essentially the Valentine's Day of Colombia.

This is a traditional celebration in Colombia in which lovers, husbands and wives, couples and friends express their love and affection.

If you know any girl in this country that is more than a straight up puta to you then you might consider acknowledging the day with some token, it just could be a card or a flower or of course money never hurts, any amount. I have sent girls I knew simply an email wishing them a happy day and it was always well-received. If you do not at least acknowledge the day to any girl in your life who is more than an acquaintance to you then it will be considered an offense and rude. This includes friends and not just romantic relationships.

If I were getting a blow job in El Centro on Saturday I would wish my puta a happy day the worst, the worst thing that would happen is she would laugh, jaja.

This is my third Day of Amor and Amistad in a row with Catgirl, it's hard to believe we're celebrating 3 already but she's the reason I'm here and so far so good. I bought her a present today for the holiday since if you wait till the last minute it will be a scramble.

While she was getting her hair extensions installed she allowed me to go surf Botero Park / Ground Zero, she told me it was okay for me to get a mamada as long as I used a condom. Got to love that shit. We are taking the moto over to her romantic girlfriend's apartment only two kilometers from my hotel and her girlfriend said she would give me a blowjob if I shared some pink powder with her and Catgirl said she would also at the same time so double blowjob by two cute girls, that will make a total of four girls today and that is my average. If I sound wonky it's because my computer is still in the shop. Ciao, my fellow mongerers.

I'm done with the white looking paisas. Especially from in front of gustos. MechanicL prostitution rap. Found a nice white big ass girl at the park. Just like last time terrible service. Facebook has spoiled me. I'm getting that hold the condom in place by hand, monestat as lube crap you get from the Dominicans in the bronx. She was nice wasn't worth the 200 plus prop is. It was terrible. She liked it but talking about hers my WhatsApp. Delete! I should got one of them hungry young ones out there the paisa chicks think they special. Girl was cute, big booty but didn't let me get in it like I wanted. Had the audacity to say Cum baby. Never again. Knew I should let the fb girl come.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2604784]If it matters to you, the girls will accept 30 K.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I thought the 30 k was for the 15/20 minute sessions.

Got another mixed race girl in Parque Lleras in tonight.

Really pretty faced Venezuelan with curly black hair. She hangs around with her black cousin who is really hot with long legs.

Made the mistake of jumping in one of the taxis the touts offered to me in Parque Lleras. Took me to my condo just up the steep hill and he had the nerve to ask for 40 k.

I told him to get lost and gave him 10 k and just got out of the taxi. He didn't say anything when I got out. The girl was going crazy at him too. Hate people like that. Even 20 k would have been a rip off.

Anyway paid the girl 200 k and she was a good performer.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2604784]If it matters to you, the girls will accept 30 K.[/QUOTE]Well the cat's out of the bag, too many gringos now screwing the place up overpaying. And it's because of the Pandemic and Asia being closed. It's also happening in other places in the World that are open to mongering, like Tijuana where pricing has gone up.

And now a lot of guys that frequent Tijuana are showing up in Medellin who I see down there and over-paying and polluting the Chicas. A candy girl asking for 50 K who will usually go for 20 K, time limits, all kinds of bullshit. And as long as Colombia is wide open and Asia is shut down, things are only going to get worse before they get better in Centro with the pricing. So what does this mean. The locals will pay what the locals pay, and they won't be quoted the inflated gringo prices, yet anytime a gringo shows up they will be quoted differently. I know this because I have been used to getting quoted local prices, and still do, but not as much now.

And not all of the girls will accept 30 K any more from a gringo because they know an extra 10 or 20 K is chump change to them.

I'm going to have to come out of retirement and get a second job to afford all these price hikes! LOL.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2604836]I'm done with the white looking paisas. Especially from in front of gustos. MechanicL prostitution rap. Found a nice white big ass girl at the park. Just like last time terrible service. Facebook has spoiled me. I'm getting that hold the condom in place by hand, monestat as lube crap you get from the Dominicans in the bronx. She was nice wasn't worth the 200 plus prop is. It was terrible. She liked it but talking about hers my WhatsApp. Delete! I should got one of them hungry young ones out there the paisa chicks think they special. Girl was cute, big booty but didn't let me get in it like I wanted. Had the audacity to say Cum baby. Never again. Knew I should let the fb girl come.[/QUOTE]The sad part of all this is that these girls are getting away with giving shitty service day in and day out. They look at all the mongers as one time customers versus a repeat client, especially in LLeras as it is the City's tourist center for nightlife. And what you paid her which hopefully didn't include a tip is almost equal to the minimum weekly salary. So if a Chica can get one client a week that's a hell of a deal for them for a few hours. And sounds like the Chica pulled the cock block manuever on you. That's a boner killer for sure.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2604787]The Day of Love and Friendship is celebrated the third Saturday of September every year in Colombia. This is essentially the Valentine's Day of Colombia.

This is a traditional celebration in Colombia in which lovers, husbands and wives, couples and friends express their love and affection.

If you know any girl in this country that is more than a straight up puta to you then you might consider acknowledging the day with some token, it just could be a card or a flower or of course money never hurts, any amount. I have sent girls I knew simply an email wishing them a happy day and it was always well-received. If you do not at least acknowledge the day to any girl in your life who is more than an acquaintance to you then it will be considered an offense and rude. This includes friends and not just romantic relationships..[/QUOTE]I have a large bag of 50 centavo coins, maybe a couple hundred of them. I'm thinking per your advice I will go down to Centro on Saturday afternoon, stand in the courtyard in front of the Church and just start throwing all my coins around as a token of my appreciation to all of my Putas there to acknowledge them.

My only concern though is that there will be a stampede of people chasing after all the coins, and in the mayhem, the Police will probably get involved with all the commotion!

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2604836]She was nice wasn't worth the 200 plus prop is. It was terrible. She liked it but talking about hers my WhatsApp. Delete! [/QUOTE]Why would you give her a tip and take her whatsapp instead of telling her how horrible her service was?

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2604375]Just got back from El Centro. Can't understand why anyone would be scared of visiting there during the day.[/QUOTE]6 months ago it was dangerous and 6 months from now it may well be dangerous again. The city put fencing around a large area about 4 weeks ago with police at the entrances and check out (look in pockets and backpacks) of all the undesirables. Currently, this is the safest I have seen in the 3 years I have visited while 6 months ago was the most dangerous. Things change quickly here. Seems as if they had a hiring frenzy. So many female police I see now.

Yesterday I saw the short skinny girl (not midget) passing by behind Nutribara Hotel. She's back from Pereira.

Few days ago. The street girl who waits all day for customers outside the entrance of Hotel Botero Boulevard (across from the church) told me that a foreigner ran like hell out of there before the police came to question and take away the two girls (age guestimate of 23 and 15). Stupid stupid stupid!

I believe that Bar Maracaibo has moved to Carrera 50 #53-38. To the left of Hotel Deseos on "airport bus street" behind Hotel Nutribara. Saw a guy with "their" shirt logo on at the corner looking for customers and some girls out front (3 big and not pretty). Someone please check it out and report.

Saw a woman wearing a shirt that read, "You get what you work for". You will not find that on any of the twenty year olds in the USA.

Which reminds of me of a girl I slept with. I asked her if she knew what her shirt said because it was in English. So I told her it said, ". A smile is the prettiest thing you can wear". After sex I explained that I got what I wanted and now did not have to be nice anymore and told her that her shirt said, "You can not fix ugly". She thought that was hilarious and knew I was teasing her.

Felt sorry for a gringo staying at my hotel who had receptionist problem. No Spanish and no phone to even translate. Real budget kind of guy and this is his 3rd visit. Here for 6 days trying to sex as much as possible. I offered two pills of 50 MG Sildenafil for 1 mil (1 USA Quarter) to help give him a jump start. Break the pills in half or they give you a headache. Did not want to take any saying he will only take when he has no other choice. Guy is 61 and wants to have kids. I told him you can not even watch them grow up and will be too old to do much of anything with them. He said he did not care and if he dies that his Social Security payment will go to the child until the kid reaches the age of 18. Another fatherless family is what the world needs. Midlife crisis at age 61. Needless to say, do not talk with him anymore.

Funny we were out chatting at 10 pm under the metro behind Nutribara snacking on bakery stuff. I am wearing my usual shorts and he is wearing pants. Street people flocked to him first asking for money and then I was second or ignored. I am not loved anywhere under any circumstances.

The victim was Dominican.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2604718]Apparantly they are now saying that he was definitely poisoned.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2604956]The victim was Dominican.[/QUOTE]No the guy who was poisoned is a Gringo, the Dominican also died recently before this Gringo, two different stories. Be safe out there.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2604941]Why would you give her a tip and take her whatsapp instead of telling her how horrible her service was?[/QUOTE]Well we had spoken two days before out there so I assumed it was 200 because that's we talked about. I made the mistake of assuming we on the same deal in the apartment from the time before I talked to her. Thus the discussion in the room and agreed to settle at 250 instead of 5 the three. Lesson learned. Never assume.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2604956]The victim was Dominican.[/QUOTE]He was American of Dominican descent. "Bronx native found dead in Colombia, family tried to convince him to stay".

El Colombiano and other local outlets are reporting his nationality as Dominican. I'm guessing that means he had a green card and lived in the United States but he was not a citizen.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2604980]He was American of Dominican descent. "Bronx native found dead in Colombia, family tried to convince him to stay".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2604864]Thanks, I thought the 30 k was for the 15/20 minute sessions.[/QUOTE]30 K is usually for 30 minutes and 50 K is for an hour.

Had one last night that was lame. 30 K and yea mechanical. Its worth it for me to spend this money and know that I will never do here again.

This morning had that cute vene, I just like her attitude. Still kinda new to the area, but getting use to it. Yea there are fenced in places and its much safer than what I remember. More police, Last night seen about 12 female cops lookig, talking to some person that looked to be mentally ill. Cops cruz Calle and Carrera 52 all the time at night, but up till a certain point. Like maybe 11 pm or so, more or less. Guess it depends on how busy they are. This does not mean its totally safe, just safer.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2605003]30 K is usually for 30 minutes and 50 K is for an hour..[/QUOTE]How about two hours for 50 K and all in, or 30 K for an hour?

Unfortunately what your reporting is indicative of the transformation of a lot of the "smarter chicas" in El Centro these days when it comes to pricing for gringos.

Next thing you know it will be like Tijuana in Centro.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2604836]I'm done with the white looking paisas. Especially from in front of gustos. MechanicL prostitution rap. Found a nice white big ass girl at the park. Just like last time terrible service. Facebook has spoiled me. I'm getting that hold the condom in place by hand, monestat as lube crap you get from the Dominicans in the bronx. She was nice wasn't worth the 200 plus prop is. It was terrible. She liked it but talking about hers my WhatsApp. Delete! I should got one of them hungry young ones out there the paisa chicks think they special. Girl was cute, big booty but didn't let me get in it like I wanted. Had the audacity to say Cum baby. Never again. Knew I should let the fb girl come.[/QUOTE]I don't get it, why are some guys telling girls that you x amount + propina?

I give a propina if I really like her performance, I never tell them X and propina before sex, only how much they get for sex.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2605003]30 K is usually for 30 minutes and 50 K is for an hour.

Had one last night that was lame. 30 K and yea mechanical. Its worth it for me to spend this money and know that I will never do here again.

This morning had that cute vene, I just like her attitude. Still kinda new to the area, but getting use to it. Yea there are fenced in places and its much safer than what I remember. More police, Last night seen about 12 female cops lookig, talking to some person that looked to be mentally ill. Cops cruz Calle and Carrera 52 all the time at night, but up till a certain point. Like maybe 11 pm or so, more or less. Guess it depends on how busy they are. This does not mean its totally safe, just safer.[/QUOTE]Good to know, thanks.

Just got back from El Centro, god I love that place.

Went up to Raudal Street and got a solid 7 from Bucaramanga and had a decent session.

Need to try and find the casas without looking at my phone which is said to be a big no no on here. How did you lot find them the first time around?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2604924]Well the cat's out of the bag, too many gringos now screwing the place up overpaying. And it's because of the Pandemic and Asia being closed. It's also happening in other places in the World that are open to mongering, like Tijuana where pricing has gone up.

And now a lot of guys that frequent Tijuana are showing up in Medellin who I see down there and over-paying and polluting the Chicas. A candy girl asking for 50 K who will usually go for 20 K, time limits, all kinds of bullshit. And as long as Colombia is wide open and Asia is shut down, t.[/QUOTE]It may not take as long as you think for Thailand to open back up. I think things might be loosening up because Thailand is up to the point where Thailand just cannot afford to keep shut down anymore. Since June or July they have been doing this "sandbox" thing where they focused a larger effort on supplying vaccines to the local people in Phuket and allowing tourists in to Phuket only and the rourists had to jump through some hoops like show vacccine record and negative Covid tests I think, anyway this was no great thing for mongers becuase they did not allow bars and intertainment places open but now in true Thailand fashion the bars and entertainment venues on Bangla Road in Patong Beach are opening up as "restaurants" -

so it'll be interesting to see if the authorities crack down on them (anyone who frequents Thailand can attest that the police have as much to gain as the local venues do) it'll be interesting to see if they let this stand and if it turns the place back to normal. I have been to Bangla road and I have been to El Centro Medellin and I dare say that even though Bangla road is no walking street in Pattaya the sheer number of girls there is still probaby 50 -1 over El Centro. So it would be better for those who usually frequent Asia

[URL]https://www.thephuketnews.com/patong-bars-defy-national-order-open-as-restaurants-81397.php[/URL]

In case someone does not know why its just as good for the police as the bar operators for them to be open:

[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/advanced/311742/corruption-101-prostitution-the-police[/URL]

I am yet to visit Medellin but have viewed quite a few videos showing the street scenes in El Centro etc. I am confused by working girls standing outside shops. My understanding was that there are casa in this area but am not sure why girls are standing outside normal looking shops, such as cafe, restaurant etc.

Are you supposed to negotiate with the girl and head to a love motel or a room in these shops or casas?

Can someone please let me know how it works?

Thanks in advance.

I'm not going to belabor the point. Guys are going to pay what they want to pay. I find it entertaining how creative some of the justifications are. I think it boils down to what the girls think they can get away with. If you are a foreigner and / or an unfamiliar face the girls will go for the gold and, based on what I've been reading here lately, they are getting it.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2605015]How about two hours for 50 K and all in, or 30 K for an hour?

Unfortunately what your reporting is indicative of the transformation of a lot of the "smarter chicas" in El Centro these days when it comes to pricing for gringos.

Next thing you know it will be like Tijuana in Centro.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2605090]It may not take as long as you think for Thailand to open back up. I think things might be loosening up because Thailand is up to the point where Thailand just cannot afford to keep shut down anymore.[/QUOTE]I hope your right, can't wait to hit Beach Road in Pattya and the Nana Plaza area in Bangkok again, but I'm not holding my breath it will be anytime soon. The Phuket opening was a bust, and since Colombia is basically wide open, it can't be beat. I see more and more foreigners in Centro everyday and can't wait for them to leave!

And today I spotted Mr. Tijuana wandering around Centro. He wears a biker jacket with "EL Jefe" embroidered on the back of it. He has business cards with his Colombian phone number on it with his name and pictures of USD dollar signs on it which he passes out to all the girls. Another Tijuana transplant in Centro overpaying Chicas.

Again, can't wait for Asia to open back up.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2604759]They sell beer that way in China.[/QUOTE] Milk is sold in bags here too in this part of Canada. You can also get it in the waxed cardboard boxes but it's more expensive.

[QUOTE=Margaya;2605104]I am yet to visit Medellin but have viewed quite a few videos showing the street scenes in El Centro etc. I am confused by working girls standing outside shops. My understanding was that there are casa in this area but am not sure why girls are standing outside normal looking shops, such as cafe, restaurant etc.

Are you supposed to negotiate with the girl and head to a love motel or a room in these shops or casas?

Can someone please let me know how it works?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You will not see girls from outside in brothel / casa like New Life. What you see are street freelancers. Some stand around the entrance of the short time motel, some can be anywhere. You negotiate with them and they will take you to the hotel they know nearby.

[QUOTE=Margaya;2605104]I am yet to visit Medellin but have viewed quite a few videos showing the street scenes in El Centro etc. I am confused by working girls standing outside shops. My understanding was that there are casa in this area but am not sure why girls are standing outside normal looking shops, such as cafe, restaurant etc.

Are you supposed to negotiate with the girl and head to a love motel or a room in these shops or casas?

Can someone please let me know how it works?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you been watching; Red Light Jason on YouTube.

[QUOTE=Margaya;2605104]I am yet to visit Medellin but have viewed quite a few videos showing the street scenes in El Centro etc. I am confused by working girls standing outside shops. My understanding was that there are casa in this area but am not sure why girls are standing outside normal looking shops, such as cafe, restaurant etc.

Are you supposed to negotiate with the girl and head to a love motel or a room in these shops or casas?

Can someone please let me know how it works?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Casas are like brothels. Not the same girls as you see in the street pictures. Or seldom the same anyway. At the casas you go in and usually a receptionist calls the girls to come out so you can pick from those that are available. Or the girls will be sitting in a room where you pick. Then you go to the room. Most casas you pay a set fee beforehand, in a few you pay afterward. Prices are often posted in the room or in the lobby. You may have to add a bit of a tip for BBBJ or kissing.

The gals standing in doorways etc. Generally will take you to a short term hotel / motel, or you go to yours. No posted price list. The shops have nothing to do with the girls. Just places where the girls stand. Sometimes the doorways they are in are the doorways to the short term hotel. Its usually pretty obvious when that is the case.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2605113]I'm not going to belabor the point. Guys are going to pay what they want to pay. I find it entertaining how creative some of the justifications are. I think it boils down to what the girls think they can get away with. If you are a foreigner and / or an unfamiliar face the girls will go for the gold and, based on what I've been reading here lately, they are getting it.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I understand. More than one Centro aficionado has mentioned in the past that they frequently tip the girls 20 k or more for good service. 30 k + 20 k = 50 k. If they're already paying 50 k it seems they could find a way to deal with the situation of girls asking for 50 k.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2605064]

Need to try and find the casas without looking at my phone which is said to be a big no no on here. How did you lot find them the first time around?[/QUOTE]Familiarize yourself with the big picture (calle and carerra numbers in relation to Avenida Oriential and Parque Bolivar) before going into el ecentro. Write down the addresses of the casas. You could even make yourself a little map on a piece of paper.

I'm probably aging myself here with this old school "life before cell phones" thinking lol

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2605115]and since Colombia is basically wide open, it can't be beat.[/QUOTE]I think Brazil can beat it. It is a little more expensive because I have not tried the cheap ones yet. I have not met any girl or anyone in Sao Paulo asking for propina. I even run into girl in casa asking if she can kiss. They got things working in opposite direction here. Now I stop negotiating service because why am I negotiating something that is already offered. LOL.

There's no reason to dabble in underage girls in Medellin, there's more than enough 18, 19, 20 year olds. Not to mention you're breaking American federal law for having sex with any minor in any part of the world and you are breaking Colombian law for paying for sex with a minor, it has nothing to do with age of consent in Colombia which some poor misguided soul posted here fairly recently. If caught you will go to prison for a long time.

For some unknown reason the girls who hang out at the horse statue in Botero Park are the minors or underage girls who are setting up an extortion scam. It's not a police sting but once the police get involved you are fucked.

As it was explained to me by one of my adult girls that I picked up in Botero park, those girls have boyfriends who pimp them out, after the girl takes you to a room after the deed is done she will demand more money from you a lot more because she is underage. Then the boyfriend shows up there may be violence there maybe not but they will extort you and if you don't pay they will call the police it doesn't matter what ID or cedula she showed you to get you in the room the fact is she will be underage, a minor.

The photo of the three faces that are blocked out is me with two girls that were standing at the horse statue I would be surprised if either one was over 14 so basically you have to add their two ages together to get an adult, jajaja. Super sweet and nice girls or chicas but that is not the point.

Villainy you were right. It's an evil extortion scam. When I pointed them out to the puta I was with there she instantly made the universal hand sign language for getting cuffed and arrested. If you're going to play with fire then you deserve to get burned but even I can't sit by and watch a fellow mongerer fall into a trap like that, you are now forewarned so beware. The rest of the photos are random gratuitous nonsense that has been going on around me in the last 48 hours.

BTW, if you're still stupid enough to get caught in that trap just pay the girls off, pay the boyfriends off and get out and lick your wounds don't try to fight it that is 10 times worse and all I promise you with all my heart and soul and brain you will regret it later. If you knew how fucking hard this was to do on a Samsung A50 phone that would prove my love for you all Ostee Out!

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2605064]Good to know, thanks.

Need to try and find the casas without looking at my phone which is said to be a big no no on here. How did you lot find them the first time around?[/QUOTE]If you can get on a computer that is somehow hooked to a printer (in your hotels business center, or an internet cafe) you can print off of Google Maps. Just hit the three bars in the text windo of the map, "print" will be in the menu that opens. I always make sure the "layout" is on "landscape" instead of "portrait" because you get more of the map on the paper that way.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2605172]Familiarize yourself with the big picture (calle and carerra numbers in relation to Avenida Oriential and Parque Bolivar) before going into el ecentro. Write down the addresses of the casas. You could even make yourself a little map on a piece of paper.

I'm probably aging myself here with this old school "life before cell phones" thinking lol[/QUOTE]Its getting harder and harder to remember how we did things before cell phones. Stopping at the service station and picking up a street map. When gas was full service they were free.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2605222]If you can get on a computer that is somehow hooked to a printer (in your hotels business center, or an internet cafe) you can print off of Google Maps. Just hit the three bars in the text windo of the map, "print" will be in the menu that opens. I always make sure the "layout" is on "landscape" instead of "portrait" because you get more of the map on the paper that way.

Its getting harder and harder to remember how we did things before cell phones. Stopping at the service station and picking up a street map. When gas was full service they were free.[/QUOTE]Yeah because standing there reading a map isn't going to make me look like an easy target, why didn't I think of that. I'd be better off just checking Google maps.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2605211]I think Brazil can beat it. It is a little more expensive because I have not tried the cheap ones yet. I have not met any girl or anyone in Sao Paulo asking for propina. I even run into girl in casa asking if she can kiss. They got things working in opposite direction here. Now I stop negotiating service because why am I negotiating something that is already offered. LOL.[/QUOTE]Any weird COVID restrictions there and do they have an area like El Centro in Rio. Never mongered there but if they have a street scene like in Medellin and cheap I would go there.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2604836]... I'm getting that hold the condom in place by hand....[/QUOTE]Girls who hold the condom during sex are doing so not to prevent the condom from coming off but to prevent you from fucking. Its best to end the session there and give them a fraction of the agreed amount as they gave you a fraction of service.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2605285]Girls who hold the condom during sex are doing so not to prevent the condom from coming off but to prevent you from fucking. Its best to end the session there and give them a fraction of the agreed amount as they gave you a fraction of service.[/QUOTE]Is this a variation on the "cock block maneuver". Sounds odd, so the girl holds onto the condom with her hand while the guy is trying to penetrate her. And what happens if the guy has a short dick and when she puts her hand around his dick the guy is lucky to even get his dick head inside of her. But still doesn't make sense, what your saying is that she was holding onto the condom to prevent fucking.

Sounds like the cock block maneuver was what occurred. If the girl didn't even allow him to even penetrate her then she should not of been paid anything because he didn't get to fuck her as agreed to. And based on the poster's report he said he wasn't able to put it in as far as he wanted. So sounds like she had her had down there not to hold onto the condom, but to provide a buffer between her vagina and the guy from fully penetrating her. Aka the "cock block maneuver".

I've had a few Chicas over the years pull that stunt on me and it's a boner killer for sure.

I have a stupid question. I'm tired of scrolling from bottom to top but I don't see where the button to change the order is, It says you can change it in "display mode" but I must be looking right over it.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2605233]Yeah because standing there reading a map isn't going to make me look like an easy target, why didn't I think of that. I'd be better off just checking Google maps.[/QUOTE]You just have to act like you belong. Don't stand in the middle of the sidewalk reading the google map. Relax leaning your back against the wall and put your foot up while looking at your phone (and glancing around every now and then) trying to figure it out.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2605303]Is this a variation on the "cock block maneuver". Sounds odd, so the girl holds onto the condom with her hand while the guy is trying to penetrate her. And what happens if the guy has a short dick and when she puts her hand around his dick the guy is lucky to even get his dick head inside of her. But still doesn't make sense, [/QUOTE]Have to ask the short dick guys how it works in their case. I don't get these hookers. I have tried to explain to chicks in Tijuana before that it would make sense to cooperate and act like you want to be there in order to help the guy hurry up and finish, instead of hemming and hawing and putting up fights dragging the whole thing out.

[QUOTE=Psicologo2007;2602580]Medellin seems to have been recovering from the restrictions of the Pandemic. Now there are many options and girls available. Parque Lleras became ridiculous. There are many many women walking around. The only problem I saw is that they are asking for no less than 300 thousand Colombian money. I think this is an exaggeration because the girls are not the seem 8 or 9 that used to be in this area. Gustos continues being a good spot to pick 8 or 9. The price is still a little high adding the liquor which is really highly priced. I think this is not for everyone. The party is ok but if you come with a group of friends that are really ready to party and drink like crazy. I visited some Salas in the area and encounter a pretty new spot that has as a manager a well known woman in the business in Medellin. Apparently she opened up her own place and it is now trying to catch up with customers and girls. When I went there there were 7 women. One of them was a 9, beautiful sweet Venezuelan girl. Wendy is her name. There was another one little thing that was very hot and flirtatious. I think her name was Martin, and a couple more that were hot friendly and ready to jump to bed. In general was a calm place, nice clean, rooms were also pretty comfy and showers inside the rooms. The price was 90 thousand Colombian pesos one hour and 60 thousand Colombian pesos half an hour. The girls ask for extra if you want something like oral sex bare skin, or if you want anal. I had a good GE with Wendy. Beer was 5 K Colombian pesos and half a bottle of local rum was 50 k. I found this a good place, they even had a VIP room with pole dance. Once you texted them in wassapp they add and send you status updates with current girls and sometimes mini clips. +57312XXXX516 the name of place is called Aventura and it is around the Centro area.[/QUOTE]Can you PM me their number?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2605217]There's no reason to dabble in underage girls in Medellin, there's more than enough 18, 19, 20 year olds. Not to mention you're breaking American federal law for having sex with any minor in any part of the world and you are breaking Colombian law for paying for sex with a minor, it has nothing to do with age of consent in Colombia which some poor misguided soul posted here fairly recently. If caught you will go to prison for a long time.[/QUOTE]I think I was the misguided soul. I wasn't looking for underage girls but I did want to get clarification on the Age of consent vs Age of legal hookers. Thank you Osteoknot.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2605217]... The photo of the three faces that are blocked out is me with two girls that were standing at the horse statue I would be surprised if either one was over 14 so basically you have to add their two ages together to get an adult, jajaja. Super sweet and nice girls or chicas but that is not the point. ...[/QUOTE]Maybe too much pick stuff before posting photos. There is no photo with three faces blocked out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2605342] I don't get these hookers. [/QUOTE]You never have any of the issues other guys have run into. All your hookers are pre-trained to be super stars and you are the only one that knows how to spot them. But you forget that you mostly only see regular girls who hold jobs who pick you up and you never have to pay. And yet you live on the forum with 12,000+ posts. Things that you you go hmmm?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2605339]You just have to act like you belong. Don't stand in the middle of the sidewalk reading the google map. Relax leaning your back against the wall and put your foot up while looking at your phone (and glancing around every now and then) trying to figure it out.[/QUOTE]Cool thanks, I haven't been bothered in El Centro at all. The beggars in Parque Lleras are far more annoying than the few who have talked to me in El Centro.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2605342]Have to ask the short dick guys how it works in their case. I don't get these hookers. I have tried to explain to chicks in Tijuana before that it would make sense to cooperate and act like you want to be there in order to help the guy hurry up and finish, instead of hemming and hawing and putting up fights dragging the whole thing out.[/QUOTE]This is a common mother's amongst Dominican chicks, at least in New York. It does stop you from going deeper and it prevents her from arching her back the way I want to. So it messes up the experience. I'm an average guy even though these pros try to gas me up and It prevents me from going as deep as I want.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2605342]Have to ask the short dick guys how it works in their case. I don't get these hookers. I have tried to explain to chicks in Tijuana before that it would make sense to cooperate and act like you want to be there in order to help the guy hurry up and finish, instead of hemming and hawing and putting up fights dragging the whole thing out.[/QUOTE]So I went to elcentro to smash my nice booty blonde paisa out there, but then Laura text out of nowhere was like let's have dinner and hang at your apartment. I am not turning her down, F the budget!! Went to the provencia to GATO. Highly recommended!! Then went for our third romp in my 8 day medellin experience. Just staring at her commanding the room, her Spanish is proper and crisp, acting classy, hair braided and the red fire coming out. See this is why we get caught up in medellin. Get to the room I shower come out her and those perfect breast out and she is sitting there on her knees like a photo shot. Bro. After that my real chick was supposed to meet me but she got in moto accident, went out to front of Gustos met an American we were talking about chick, brother man snatch the one he likes, there's this small dark skin chick with fake breasts, her smile is killer, wore a red dress. Prettiest out there. He takes her friend so I take her. I swear to god she looks a 1950 eartha kitt. Condom everything but was good and she was cute. She is was 20 and pretty. She showers says she had fun and it was good, I gave her the that's what tell all the boys look and she says no baby your penis was delicious LOL. Over spent yesterday but had a blast. My tall pretty paisa got picked up before I could take her home. She wanted me to take her but a baller showed up so I am glad she got paid. She is so pretty with those bangs. I leave tomorrow so Friday night is it. I loved my time. FB girls were 5 times better in service. I had some awesome ones, repeated some because the service was that good. Even had some good ones in el centro. Tonight bang my novia, get some more Laura in the morning but since we companions yesterday may give it to a hottie in front of gustos. We will see still got 200 k Fay boo chicks want the dinero.

That's my new quote to girls in El centro and in front of Gustos. Some of these girls are little. But why they look like children. When shopping in parque llerals in front of gustos it looks like recess out there. The police do nothing about this. I mean they look 15,16 even some bros walked by and said they looked young. El centro looks like lunch time recess. You ain't catch me walking with those little girls. No shirt no shoes no cedula no service LOL.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2605217]There's no reason to dabble in underage girls in Medellin, there's more than enough 18, 19, 20 year olds. Not to mention you're breaking American federal law for having sex with any minor in any part of the world and you are breaking Colombian law for paying for sex with a minor, it has nothing to do with age of consent in Colombia which some poor misguided soul posted here fairly recently. If caught you will go to prison for a long time.

For some unknown reason the girls who hang out at the horse statue in Botero Park are the minors or underage girls who are setting up an extortion scam. It's not a police sting but once the police get involved you are fucked.

As it was explained to me by one of my adult girls that I picked up in Botero park, those girls have boyfriends who pimp them out, after the girl takes you to a room after the deed is done she will demand more money from you a lot more because she is underage. Then the boyfriend shows up there may be violence there maybe not but they will extort you and if you don't pay they will call the police it doesn't matter what ID or cedula she showed you to get you in the room the fact is she will be underage, a minor.

The photo of the three faces that are blocked out is me with two girls that were standing at the horse statue I would be surprised if either one was over 14 so basically you have to add their two ages together to get an adult, jajaja. Super sweet and nice girls or chicas but that is not the point.

Villainy you were right. It's an evil extortion scam. When I pointed them out to the puta I was with there she instantly made the universal hand sign language for getting cuffed and arrested. If you're going to play with fire then you deserve to get burned but even I can't sit by and watch a fellow mongerer fall into a trap like that, you are now forewarned so beware. The rest of the photos are random gratuitous nonsense that has been going on around me in the last 48 hours.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's the angle (the one with what I presume is your arm in the photo jaja) but this looks like one of the more thicker girls you've photographed ost. I dig it. From one of your recent centro adventures I presume?

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2605233]Yeah because standing there reading a map isn't going to make me look like an easy target, why didn't I think of that. I'd be better off just checking Google maps.[/QUOTE]When I need to check my phone for anything I stop and either put my back against the wall, or step into the entrance of a store or restaurant. Look both ways first before pulling out your phone, check what you need to check and then put the phone away.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2605064]Good to know, thanks.

Just got back from El Centro, god I love that place.

Went up to Raudal Street and got a solid 7 from Bucaramanga and had a decent session.

Need to try and find the casas without looking at my phone which is said to be a big no no on here. How did you lot find them the first time around?[/QUOTE]I believe that's katarina, saw her twice already, good solid service.

A wall at your back is a good tactic. It greatly reduces your vulnerability to smash and grab activity. The best way to prevent your phone getting stolen and to avoid looking lost is to do these two things:

1) Take some time to understand how to find street addresses. You can do this in Poblado or Laureles where you likely already have some familiarity. Like anywhere else, building numbers and street names cross reference each other in ways you can use to navigate.

2) Write down the addresses of places you plan to visit. You can use this paper list to remind yourself of the addresses without having to expose your phone. Using what you learned in #1 you can navigate between the addresses on your list.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2605339]You just have to act like you belong. Don't stand in the middle of the sidewalk reading the google map. Relax leaning your back against the wall and put your foot up while looking at your phone (and glancing around every now and then) trying to figure it out.[/QUOTE]

We've all been there. I don't put up with it. One of the advantages of Medellin is the costs are low enough that I don't think twice about ending a session and moving on to another more willing provider. There are exceptions. Specifically the six figure providers and even worse, the six figure pay me in advance providers. A trend among providers is to do as little as they need to do to collect fees. If you pay in advance your negotiating leverage is zero. If you pay six figures that's OK as long as you are getting some perceived value.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2605303]Is this a variation on the "cock block maneuver". Sounds odd, so the girl holds onto the condom with her hand while the guy is trying to penetrate her. And what happens if the guy has a short dick and when she puts her hand around his dick the guy is lucky to even get his dick head inside of her. But still doesn't make sense, what your saying is that she was holding onto the condom to prevent fucking.

Sounds like the cock block maneuver was what occurred. If the girl didn't even allow him to even penetrate her then she should not of been paid anything because he didn't get to fuck her as agreed to. And based on the poster's report he said he wasn't able to put it in as far as he wanted. So sounds like she had her had down there not to hold onto the condom, but to provide a buffer between her vagina and the guy from fully penetrating her. Aka the "cock block maneuver".

I've had a few Chicas over the years pull that stunt on me and it's a boner killer for sure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2605233]Yeah because standing there reading a map isn't going to make me look like an easy target, why didn't I think of that. I'd be better off just checking Google maps.[/QUOTE]The point of not having your phone out in areas like El Centro is that those little street rats run by and snatch it out of your hand, but why didn't you think of that? You obviously know better than I. So unless you can dash like Usain Bolt you are probably not going to catch them after they snatch that phone.

As far as having a "map" in your hand, the printed off piece of paper is the letter size like every other peice of paper, the person would have to be right up over your shoulder to be know exactly what you are looking at and personaly if I'm stopping to look at something I stand with my back to a wall or other object to prevent someone from standing just behind me and I stay aware of my surroundings. But you do whatever you think is right. You know better than I do.

I simply tried to give an alternative way to study a map that lesssens the chances of getting your phone snatched but if you would rather whip your phone out because you think looking at a peice of paper is going to make you a target than by all means you go ahead. I could go a million different directions with your smart ass/unthankful remark but suffice it to say chances are they can already tell you are a gringo - a peice of paper isn't going to change that, the rest of of rather you look like a "target'' is going to be in your attitude.

I made no reference to tips in my post. What I did say was 30 K is the going rate. I also mentioned I find some of the justifications for paying more creative and entertaining. I honestly don't care what anyone pays because after all these years it hasn't had any impact on what the vast majority of us Centro rats pay.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2605170]I'm not sure I understand. More than one Centro aficionado has mentioned in the past that they frequently tip the girls 20 k or more for good service. 30 k + 20 k = 50 k. If they're already paying 50 k it seems they could find a way to deal with the situation of girls asking for 50 k.[/QUOTE]

Your advice was spot on. You led a horse to water.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2605433]The point of not having your phone out in areas like El Centro is that those little street rats run by and snatch it out of your hand, and unless you can dash like Usain Bolt you are probably not going to catch them. I simply tried to give an alternative way to study a map but if you would rather whip your phone out because you think looking at a peice of paper is going to make you a target than by all means you go ahead. As far as having a piece of paper in your hand the person would have to be right up over your shoulder to be know exactly what you are looking at and personaly if I'm stopping to look at something I stand with a wall or other object to prevent someone from standing just behind me and I stay aware of my surroundings.

One thing I did not add in that last post is a person can also print off the directions from Google Maps. What I usually do is after I print the directions and while I'm still sitting at the computer with the map pulled up, I note how many streets are between each turn that I am going to take along the route, I write those down next to where Google has the distance between each turn, so that when I am walking I can glance at that, count the streets, make my next turn, then I glance at the map only after each turn, if your memory is better than mine you probably would not need to look at every turn. But if you prep enough before you go out you do not need to be staring at the paper the whole time..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2605233]Yeah because standing there reading a map isn't going to make me look like an easy target, why didn't I think of that. I'd be better off just checking Google maps.[/QUOTE]Get a cheap blue tooth headphone for your phone. Listen to the google map instruction thru it. Or just go into a building to check your phone.

I had Uber driver told me to not wear headphone but it is better than taking the phone out.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2605276]Any weird COVID restrictions there[/QUOTE]No restriction except mask in some places like metro but mask is not required inside the clubs or restaurants.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2605276]do they have an area like El Centro in Rio. Never mongered there but if they have a street scene like in Medellin and cheap I would go there.[/QUOTE]Yes, there are working girls in the equivalent of centro area but the place is nasty but the quality and quantity is no match to El Centro.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2605276]Any weird COVID restrictions there and do they have an area like El Centro in Rio. Never mongered there but if they have a street scene like in Medellin and cheap I would go there.[/QUOTE]From what I recall, Brazil is the most expensive country to monger in Latin America.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2605285]Girls who hold the condom during sex are doing so not to prevent the condom from coming off but to prevent you from fucking. Its best to end the session there and give them a fraction of the agreed amount as they gave you a fraction of service.[/QUOTE]Happened to me in Vietnam, paid only half and the owner bitched the shit out of her. I left with blue balls and was pissed off.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2604924]Well the cat's out of the bag, too many gringos now screwing the place up overpaying. And it's because of the Pandemic and Asia being closed. It's also happening in other places in the World that are open to mongering, like Tijuana where pricing has gone up.

And not all of the girls will accept 30 K any more from a gringo because they know an extra 10 or 20 K is chump change to them.

I'm going to have to come out of retirement and get a second job to afford all these price hikes! LOL.[/QUOTE]Cali still charging 20-30 k sw, haven't even seen one gringo. Been going back and forth each week / every other week past few months. dr amor has lutron/gustos talent and the caleńas have the hottest mixed bodies

And yea, Centro is turning into a seller's market. I haven't tried new girls lately, I have my regs so I don't have to put up with the hand holding the condom while fucking BS.

Anyways, I've found that the sw that have the audacity to say 50 k + extra for pieza are the seasoned pros, the ones who get fucked 10 x a day. I don't want them.

The girl next door type, alittle chubby with a pretty face, standing alone awkwardly, I go for her everytime.

Yesterday I met exactly that type, she charged 30 k including room by the barbershop behind veracruz. nothing better than a pale PAWG paisa.

I had been smoking all day so it's hard to cum, she was my fifth girl in like 4 hours at around 7 pm, I was tired and wanted to nut (one of those sw binge days).

I told her ID give extra if we fuck well, and yea she fucked my brains out, DFK, DATY, etc.

So yea I gave her 50 k because I was out of smaller notes. I can justify it because she didn't ask for it or set the price, and now I have a reg who will be down to smoke weed / drink beers / with GFE sex everytime I'm at ground zero.

And the way I see it, I fuck 2 girls a day 7 days a week, give or take, and the times I don't have smaller notes I give the 50 k note, so like 8-9 times out of 16 girls.

That's an extra 100-150 k a week I'm paying for sex, or around 20-30 $. So like $100 extra a month. just because im too fucking lazy to get change everytime. I don't see it as a huge expense really, but it is what it is.

Side note: i cant wait until there is no mask mandate outside. will be so much easier to pick up non pros. not even being political or anything, colombia is like one of the only places on earth where people where masks at all fucking times when theyre outside in the scorching sun, i dont get it. I dont wear one outside ever, the police dont even care as i walk past them. I have no problem wearing it inside, but come on now.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2605276]Any weird COVID restrictions there and do they have an area like El Centro in Rio. Never mongered there but if they have a street scene like in Medellin and cheap I would go there.[/QUOTE]Talent wise and performance it is pretty damn close to MDE, brazilian culture is just more foreign and rio is way more dangerous imo.

Was just there this summer, It is fantastic for centro rats. Same price more or less, always BBBJ, and they love to fuck even more than the paisas. Fersure check it out, maybe a little politically unstable in the months to come tho. sao paolo isnt really great for sw at all imo, more of a clubs place.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2605433]The point of not having your phone out in areas like El Centro is that those little street rats run by and snatch it out of your hand, but why didn't you think of that? You obviously know better than I. So unless you can dash like Usain Bolt you are probably not going to catch them after they snatch that phone.

As far as having a "map" in your hand, the printed off piece of paper is the letter size like every other peice of paper, the person would have to be right up over your shoulder to be know exactly what you are looking at and personaly if I'm stopping to look at something I stand with my back to a wall or other object to prevent someone from standing just behind me and I stay aware of my surroundings. But you do whatever you think is right. You know better than I do.

I simply tried to give an alternative way to study a map that lesssens the chances of getting your phone snatched but if you would rather whip your phone out because you think looking at a peice of paper is going to make you a target than by all means you go ahead. I could go a million different directions with your smart ass/unthankful remark but suffice it to say chances are they can already tell you are a gringo - a peice of paper isn't going to change that, the rest of of rather you look like a "target'' is going to be in your attitude.[/QUOTE]If you had gave me a genuine response instead of making fun of me, like Mr E and Nounce were nice enough to do, perhaps I would have reacted differently.

I'm not surprised some posters ask for information and never post reports etc because of sarcastic replies like yours.

I appreciate your advice though, thanks.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2605455]Get a cheap blue tooth headphone for your phone. Listen to the google map instruction thru it. Or just go into a building to check your phone.

I had Uber driver told me to not wear headphone but it is better than taking the phone out.[/QUOTE]Thank you Nounce, great idea.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2605285]Girls who hold the condom during sex are doing so not to prevent the condom from coming off but to prevent you from fucking. Its best to end the session there and give them a fraction of the agreed amount as they gave you a fraction of service.[/QUOTE]You certainly can pay an independent a portion of the agreed upon amount in that instance. However, at least in Medellin, such nonsense is more liable to happen in a casa or strip club, where you are unlikely to see any refund if there was penetration, even if hindered by her hand "holding the condom. " Plus she can just lie and say the condom was slipping.

I had this exact scenario at Fas Dos three years ago, where they have the slogan "Either you fuck the girl or you get your money back. " I complained, got nothing back but wasn't expecting anything. I just wanted the complaint made in case she gets more. But they have dramatically increased their prices, up to 300 k, which would be an ouch if you made it inside but the girl was uncooperative.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2605491]Thank you Nounce, great idea.[/QUOTE]PM me and I will walk you to New Life and two others. I will wear shorts and sandals and you will see how many people do and do not bother with me. I will even pull out my phone and show you when, where, and how to do it. Also, I will need it because I wanted to check out Zandaly because everyone raves about it and I have not been there. I was not impressed with New Life that others gush about. But it may have been a moment in time when the my type of girls were taking a lunch break. Problem solved by Mr. Fix It.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2605342]Have to ask the short dick guys how it works in their case. I don't get these hookers. I have tried to explain to chicks in Tijuana before that it would make sense to cooperate and act like you want to be there in order to help the guy hurry up and finish, instead of hemming and ha
wing and putting up fights dragging the whole thing out.[/QUOTE]Some are bound and determined that you do not enjoy it. All else, even making money is secondary. Thankfully these are a minority, yet plenty exist in the world of hookers.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2605383]I leave tomorrow so Friday night is it. I loved my time. FB girls were 5 times better in service. I had some awesome ones, repeated some because the service was that good. Even had some good ones in el centro. Tonight bang my novia, get some more Laura in the morning but since we companions yesterday may give it to a hottie in front of gustos. We will see still got 200 k Fay boo chicks want the dinero.[/QUOTE]Can't you share the FB profile with the board as others have done?

Barra Ejecutiva.

Spent time with Eva in the room in the club. 300 k for 1 hour with room included, oral natural and unlimited shots on goal (I know I still overpaid, but was not trying to bargain). Cool atmosphere, went at 11:30 pm and felt save, Cabify there and taxi back home.

Eva was the sexist girl there and a good attitude. About 3-5 other solid choices there and probably with better prices.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2605470]From what I recall, Brazil is the most expensive country to monger in Latin America.[/QUOTE]Due to the strong dollar Brazil is a good value. The massage places are in cramped quarters but have big selection of chicas. Pricing is slightly above Centro chicas.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2605276]Any weird COVID restrictions there and do they have an area like El Centro in Rio. Never mongered there but if they have a street scene like in Medellin and cheap I would go there.[/QUOTE]Covid remains a big problem in Rio. The centro area in Rio is nothing like Medellin. The cheap indoor action is in downtown with many cheap massage places with big lineups and slightly higher prices than Medellin -- Excellent value.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2605545]Can't you share the FB profile with the board as others have done?[/QUOTE]My 10 day vacation is over. Had a lot of fun hung out with Laura this morning. Saw her 4 times LOL. She got all my money. My fake novia came yesterday. Made me think if I had no money would treat me like this. That's a sad thought. Would I be alone in medellin if I lived here if I was not doing citas. Anyways our time together was amazing like how do they fake this so well LOL. Was beat didn't want to into the crowd so I got some drinks and chilled in my room. Laura came this morning looking cute stripped and we banged for about 40 min. She already moving to my favorite positions and going to my condom stash LOL. You don't know me!!

Below is her page. Really nice classy lady wit some knockers👀. K own all the spots. Said next we will go to more places to eat. Services rendered as completed LOL. Thanks for this forum for assisting me in my travels. Should have went to el. Entro last night!!

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001014467216[/URL]

[QUOTE=ManchesterLad1;2605568]Barra Ejecutiva.

Spent time with Eva in the room in the club. 300 k for 1 hour with room included, oral natural and unlimited shots on goal (I know I still overpaid, but was not trying to bargain). Cool atmosphere, went at 11:30 pm and felt save, Cabify there and taxi back home.

Eva was the sexist girl there and a good attitude. About 3-5 other solid choices there and probably with better prices.[/QUOTE]Better prices is an understatement. As in 1/3 of what you paid is still overpaying.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2605476]Anyways, I've found that the sw that have the audacity to say 50 k + extra for pieza are the seasoned pros, the ones who get fucked 10 x a day. I don't want them.

The girl next door type, alittle chubby with a pretty face, standing alone awkwardly, I go for her everytime.

Yesterday I met exactly that type, she charged 30 k including room by the barbershop behind veracruz. nothing better than a pale PAWG paisa[/QUOTE]That is my jam man. Those girls that are thick but overlooked. Might have to go poke around there today to see if there are more jaja.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2605735]Better prices is an understatement. As in 1/3 of what you paid is still overpaying.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info and yea it won't happen again, but are you saying girls in there will do 100 k for a hour with oral natural?

Went to the park in poblano last night. Its been a while since I have been there. Nice atmosphere but I don't understand why the girls have lolly pops in there mouth. They just tell me its sweet. Can someone please explain this to me.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2605763]Went to the park in poblano last night. Its been a while since I have been there. Nice atmosphere but I don't understand why the girls have lolly pops in there mouth. They just tell me its sweet. Can someone please explain this to me.[/QUOTE]Very simple, they want you to imagine them sucking on your cock.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2605763]Went to the park in poblano last night. Its been a while since I have been there. Nice atmosphere but I don't understand why the girls have lolly pops in there mouth. They just tell me its sweet. Can someone please explain this to me.[/QUOTE]LOL. Fashion.

Purrfekt Piel and her perfect body just left, we had a fantastic morning together. Scarlett left around 2 am Another great session. 1 threeway since I last posted with Scarlet and Super Groovy who are well known to each other as they have webcam modeled porm together and they're longtime friends but actually not lovers in real life, Super Groovy has a separate lesbian lover.

Spent last night with a new girl at her apartment with her mom and her sister, they dyed my hair came out great. I think I've about got her set up to do the reverse flip, she's a conservative religious girl who's has suddenly hit on hard times she's losing her job on October 5th and she needs money badly, I'm sure she's never accepted money for sex before but I've offered her a good deal for two sessions and she's thinking about it more to come on that.

Right now I'm headed out to El Centro to give a present to some puta in the fornm of my leche all over her face for The Day of Love and Friendship, jajaja.

Sexy Dexy got the best gift for the holiday today, bought another Moto but this time a used one at one-quarter the price of Catgirl's new Vulcan but still appears to be a nice dependable solid machine she said she's going to use it to make money by delivering Rappi, I will believe it when I see it, but she deserves a shot at it. 90% of the time they fail but I think the 10% might be worth it.

Huge Fiesta tonight probably with a couple of hundred people, DJ music in honor of the holiday with Catgirl and her brother and lots of pink shit. Will be floating around I'm sure.

Life is good. Random gratuitous photos of the nonsense going on in the last 36 hours.

On Friday I decided to treat one of my barrio wives to a night out on the town away from Centro. Normally I bed her at Hotel Deseo's by the Airport bus station but decided to see if she would be like a fish out of water when I took her to Poblado which she never had been to before. I told her we would be spending the night and eating in an elegant restaurant so to bring something formal to wear versus jeans with holes in them. I booked a room at a Boutique Hotel with a balcony a few blocks away from LLeras. Nicely appointed room with a king size bed, AC, and a big flat screen. The perfect fuck hut.

Upon checking in and getting situated in the room, and figuring out the TV remotes which can be a challenge at times, the good times started to roll. Great session and then we went out on the balcony and had cocktails and snacks while watching the Sunset with our feet proppped up on the balcony. We then headed to Sambombi a restaraunt in Provenza a few blocks away. What a meal that included wine, fresh smoked trout, fresh Sierra, grilled chicken, a wedge salad, and dessert. She fit right in as though she belonged, and not only was it a treat for her, it was a treat for me as well.

After dinner we took a stroll thru Provenza which is about four blocks up the hill from LLeras and is primarily locals versus a bunch of tourists like in Lleras. The place was packed with no shuttered places like around Lleras. Afterwards we walked down to Lleras, and the place was overflowing with Putas ready to roll in front of Gustos and at the corner, and there were others trolling around the park as well. After our stroll we sat in a restaurant and ordered a pitcher of Maragaritas. She had never drank Tequilla before and enjoyed it. We then headed back to the room, and I thought to myself, I'm kind of typsy from drinking a bottle of wine and a pitcher of Maragritas so am not sure if I was ready to blow another load as it was just after midnight but popped 1/2 of a 50 MG Viagra just to be ready.

We hung out on the balcony a while, and the next thing you know sesssion 2 was initiated with a very happy ending. Then after showering we fell asleep and around 8 AM she was ready to roll and got another leche out of me. After breakfast we went our seperate ways with her heading back to her barrio and I headed to Bellen to go swimming.

I'm depleted and am debating whether to go to Centro in the afternoon but am in somewhat of a daze right now. And my saddle bags are empty which can be a predicament at times.

Life is good in Medellin!

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2605763]Went to the park in poblano last night. Its been a while since I have been there. Nice atmosphere but I don't understand why the girls have lolly pops in there mouth. They just tell me its sweet. Can someone please explain this to me.[/QUOTE]Warm up for the main event. 😂.

Last night got the cousin of the girl I fucked the other night. She is a light black girl from Venezuela with long legs, looks like a cat walk model. Good session and nice girl.

Just got back from El Centro, LoveItHere69 (thanks again) was nice enough to show me a few casas. I had a 30 minute session with number 5 and it was a bargain, I saw at least 4 others I would have taken. Number 26 looked great but got taken by the guy who arrived before us.

Had a look in a few others, Zaza which didn't have a good line up and the woman on the front desk had an awful attitude and Zandaly which had a few nice girls (will go back there on Monday).

We then had a look around Veracruz and there was a few diamonds in the rough out.

Had a good time and LoveItHere69 was a great guide.

Been wanting to write this review for a minute and finally got around to it. As always, this is one man's experience. Take everything with a grain of salt. After a little time on this board I've realized the definition of beauty is vast and varied.

I normally go through the escort websites but wanted to try some casa action. Strictly for research purposes. Of course.

Fleshed out each story individually, but if you don't have the time (or feel like reading) did a simple 1-2 sentence recap of each at the beginning of each section.

OK let's get to it.

Eros Spa 70 k / HR +57 3xxxx350.

TL; DR: worth a shot if you just want a ton of options, but if you're looking for cuter girls I'the recommend a diff spot.

Full report: Fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me three times. I'm an idiot. I have not had one stellar experience in this entire building LOL. And realize this entire building is for prepagos. Eros is located on the 3rd floor, but I've also seen two different girls on two other floors in this building. And listen, some folks on this board sound like they've had good experiences here. But it was not my vibe.

You enter into the "reception" area and the hostess girl asks if you want to see the photos or the girls irl. Go with the photos. I heard other guys on here talk about how awkward it was to see the girls. And didn't listen jaja. If you want to see the girls irl she puts out the bat signal and all the girls come into the room at once. They surround you in a big circle, and then you're expected to pick one. I never considered myself a real picky guy. But unfortunately there wasn't even one that I was feeling. To each there own, but none were above I'd say a 5 for me.

Nothing more awkward than being presented with 20 options and being like."nah". My spanish isn't great so I came up with a BS excuse and the hostess had the girls (v obviously annoyed) leave the room. 10 k for viewing the girls. Which seems steep for a viewing fee, but at that point I would've paid much more just to get out of there jaja.

Not sure if the number on the map works, but I made sure I got the WhatsApp of the spa from the hostess chick (who was actually the cutest girl there). This number should work.

Tantra (Myra) 10045 min 130/ HR +57 314 xxxx745.

TL; DR: cute girls, clean well equipped rooms, and great service but not as many options.

Full review: After leaving eros I was determined to have a better experience, so I gave Tantra another shot. Tantra I'the say is the most professional casa I've visited. It's super low-key. You hang in the waiting area and the hostess girl (Myra. Yo creo) brings them out to see you one by one.

My first time there was OK, I saw a sweet Vennie named Paula. But there was a cute girl I remember with lots of tattoos I passed on. Wasn't going to make the same mistake.

You'll recognize Sammy if you go because she has these big ass glasses (cuter than it sounds), a tattoo that covers her entire back, and personality. In the best way possible.

Bought 45 minutes with Sammy and had a good time. She's sweet and one of those girls who's just fun. We talked about her tattoos and swapped stories. Awesome DFK for no upcharge.

Unfortunately when it was game time my main man left me high and dry. I think he dipped out because she was too thin for me. Or maybe my mental was still a little out of it from the experience at Eros? Not quite sure. Can't remember the last time this happened. But not my first time.

She was a CHAMP about it and super understanding. When we had about 5 minutes left she tried again and he woke up enough to get the job done. She handled the situation about as gracefully as one could, all things considered.

Pro tip for Tantra. They tend not to have as many girls working as the other spots so definitely text them before you go to see how many girls are working that day and / or available at that given time.

Zandalay (Sandra) 80 k / HR + 57 320xxxx034.

TL; DR: Zandalay lives up to the hype. Best looking girls (IMO), great prices, excellent layout, and the service is fantastic.

The infamous. Had heard you guys talk about Zandalay a ton on here so had to try it. I normally stick to Laureles, but when I saw in their WA stories they were running a 2 for 1 special for valentines day I figured was worth the trip (admittedly I've never had a threesome before, but like most always fantasized about it).

It's an unmarked door near parque Boliviar (peep the map for exact location) and when you enter it's directly into a bar area. The available girls were sitting around drinking, singing karaoke, and just having a good time. Not sure if it's always like this, but it was a cool way to scope out the vibe of the girls and chat with 'them.

The manager (maybe owner?) Sandy gave me the lowdown. She runs their WA so I had texted with her a bit this last week asking a few different questions about their offers.

Pro tip: One really cool thing about this spot. Their WA game is on point. Sandra responds super fast and will post photos and videos of the girls working in their stories daily so you have an idea how many and what type of girls are working.

Sandra told me about their special for the day, prices, and then recommended I go have a drink at the bar and just chat with some ladies. I awkwardly saddle up to the bar and one of the girls is sweet enough to talk to me awhile. She wasn't my type, but it buys me some time to relax and settle in. Eventually there's one girl sitting alone at the bar who's definitely my style and gives me the eyes.

She says her name is Evelyn, a thick paisa who apparently just started working there today. We chat for maybe 15 minutes and even though I came for the threesome, my sensitive ass just wants her.

I pay for an hour with Evelyn and we had a blast. Initially we keep chatting for a bit and then eventually get to it. I negotiated two rounds and DFK with her beforehand. Both were fantastic. I got her number afterward and am going to try to set up something independently.

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Realize this was a long ass post jaja. Wanted to cover each adventure independently. Hope that helps some other newbies.

Hmu if you've got questions.

3 K.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2605470]From what I recall, Brazil is the most expensive country to monger in Latin America.[/QUOTE]It depends on how you make the comparison. If you compare casa, for example, Energy in Laureles to typical Clinicas in Sao Paulo. The price is about the same, some are higher, some are lower. The difference being Clinica is cleaner in that you always get a clean towel, clean bed sheet, Listerine in the room, have not had a not working shower yet. GFE is the default. So I will say Sao Paulo is a far better value at this price range.

Sao Paulo has night clubs that can get expensive but again GFE is the default, you can just make out on the sofa for hours before going to the room which I did do in La Isla sometimes too but never to the extend that I can do in Sao Paulo clubs. There is no strippers asking for tips and the working girls rarely ask for drink, tip or upsell, at least I have not encountered one yet. LOL. If you like La Isla, then you will like clubs here. La Isla only has one bar. The clubs in Sao Paulo can have more than one bar, restaurant, pool table, cafe.

The comparison of metro in the two cites is similar. Medellin is cheaper but Sao Paulo is far better because it has more lines, longer distance, A/C, more signs and better, more handicap friendly, restrooms, shops and free condoms.

[QUOTE=Regnom3000;2605740]That is my jam man. Those girls that are thick but overlooked. Might have to go poke around there today to see if there are more jaja.[/QUOTE]Your one of only a handful of guys in Centro who get it.

I'm not suggesting going with any beached whales, but the ones most guys wouldn't take a second look at can be good performers and get repeat business.

I have a bunch of them in my stable.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2605763]Went to the park in poblano last night. Its been a while since I have been there. Nice atmosphere but I don't understand why the girls have lolly pops in there mouth. They just tell me its sweet. Can someone please explain this to me.[/QUOTE]They're advertising that BBBJ is on the menu.

A foto post, I'm still on my phone and I'm not going to spend much time editin, so please forgive the voice to text errors.

El Centro Venny a little thick but basically perfect body super eager to please all I did was buy her some ice cream before we went into the room; the view from the apartment of the girl who dyed my hair the other night; Catgirl's new BFF which she changes more often than I cut my hair I hated to see Jaz go but this one is really cute and funny and fun she is another Paisa miniature just like Catgirl; a couple of the many reasons why pink is my favorite color; one of the scariest photos any girl from anywhere in the world can send you fortunately it's not mine; I might as well put up wanted posters if I'm posting that picture even with the face blocked jaja; the sexy as fuck new girl midriff whose apartment I was at when she dyed my hair, I met the entire family which of course did not include a father, this is Colombia, and she's finding my offer "very interesting" to flip over to the pay for play side for the first time in her life, she got fired and her moto broke down at the same time and she's already in debt, she probably told me 20 times she would never fuck me in her life even though she liked me a lot, jaja never say never, life does take some strange twists and turns I will use her like a rag doll and then I guarantee she will come back begging for more maybe not right away and the price will dramatically drop; Amazonia was in town for a prenatal visit, she technically no longer holds a position on my ranked lineup but she's still a great friend and we still have sex when she comes into town; a missing foto from a prior post; Amazonia again 5 months plus pregnant her pussy is awesome right now, I told her how pregnant pussy becomes more soft and tight at the same time and she replied, "I know" jajajajaja. See you at El Centro. Keep On Keepin' On my fellow mongers! I will hit for you if you are not here. JAjajajajajaa.

1. Silvana from Facebook.

Meet Silvana a girl from Facebook that I found on a forum post. Horrible attitude, late, wanted same pay for 2 hours shorter, wanted me to pay extra for her putting in the wrong address and going to the wrong place.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/andrea.toro.3114[/URL]

Do not recommend wasting your time.

2. Perla from Tantra.

130 k for full hour, doesn't do BBBJ but knows how to get you rock hard without BBBJ. Pretty face, good attitude, good sex and professional massage. Highly recommended.

I was in the back of a retail clothing store near the church at Ground Zero and the Vinny miniature I banged there a few days ago found me dragged me out to meet her sister in the plaza and then we were off to Zona Rosa in a flash, more about that later.

As a side note, if you have an eye for it and you can pick out things for your girlfriend to wear Medellin is a gold mine. The clothing is decent to good quality and the prices are really cheap. I bought this cute short set for Catgirl for less than $5 USD, and the return on it in the affection and performance will be as if I spent $100 in the United States.

I probably spend more money than the average mangerer on chicas but by no means would I ever infer that you have to spend extra money to be happy. You can spend little money or no extra money and do fine, but for a little extra money you can really increase their performance. That's more of a personal style than a recommendation and I don't think anyone should ever feel pressure to outperform anyone on price, higher or lower.

I do believe in paying slightly above fair market value because I think that gives me a lot more back in performance but that's just a personal strategy.

The market is psychological and doesn't have an official price list posted on a computer or billboard sign or otherwise advertised, so you have to guess at the price from personal experience and what you read in places like here but it's not hard to figure out. Right now the basic rate is floating somewhere around 40 mil COP you can try to go under and risk not getting the girl you want or you can go a little higher and be more certain of success although performance is variable as we all know.

I'll sketch out a graph of the law of supply and demand on a napkin soon and take a picture of it for here. The two most common misconceptions about price are that there is a relationship to payment or cost but both are completely independent variables and have nothing to do with the price you pay.

That doesn't mean that price is not going to go up over time as Medellin becomes more well-known and more Gringos float in but that's due to the number of Gringos and the increased demand they create and not the price they pay. If the number of Gringos increases and the number of putas equally increase to compensate for the increased demand then he price will stay the same. That is an unknown factor at this time.

Why is this point so important? Because if you understand it, then it actually increases your negotiating power, not decreases it. If you're arguing against or for the fair market value you should understand the psychological effect it's going to have on the deal, and not that you're delusionally controlling the price by what you pay. Actually most guys even if they don't understand the principal aren't going to care enough about what other guys pay and they shouldn't. They should just concentrate on what they want. But to put pressure or suggest to other guys that they should be concerned about payment because of how it affects others is bad information, erroneous, flat- out one hundred percent wrong, delusional and misguided. And it devalues the other information you might be providing as a subject matter expert.

I can oversimplify it and say you can be sure that as long as you're happy what you paid and hopefully maybe the girl is happy too, that is the Hallmark of a good deal. Let the market take care of the price which it does automatically.

Wow, I got off on a side tangent but this is important.

I will flog this dead horse into dog meat if necessary.

The irony of it all is mongering is not a science, it does not depend on IQ, success is mostly due to Common Sense, Street smarts, and the ability to read people. Intelligence is a factor on expertise of these peripheral subject matters like price and the other nuts and bolts but the act of mongering itself is more of an art than a science. I will argue in a future post that intelligence can actually be more of a hindrance than a help when it comes to mongering.

Photo of the short set that I mentioned in the previous post.

Excellent choice of restaurant. I am overdue for a visit to Sambombi. For me it is like Idilico in Manila but with more culinary technique and fewer gimmicks. I got "Pretty Woman" vibes from the part about the Hotel Deseos to Poblado boutique hotel journey.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2605775]On Friday I decided to treat one of my barrio wives to a night out on the town away from Centro. Normally I bed her at Hotel Deseo's by the Airport bus station but decided to see if she would be like a fish out of water when I took her to Poblado which she never had been to before. I told her we would be spending the night and eating in an elegant restaurant so to bring something formal to wear versus jeans with holes in them. I booked a room at a Boutique Hotel with a balcony a few blocks away from LLeras. Nicely appointed room with a king size bed, AC, and a big flat screen. The perfect fuck hut.

Upon checking in and getting situated in the room, and figuring out the TV remotes which can be a challenge at times, the good times started to roll. Great session and then we went out on the balcony and had cocktails and snacks while watching the Sunset with our feet proppped up on the balcony. We then headed to Sambombi a restaraunt in Provenza a few blocks away. What a meal that included wine, fresh smoked trout, fresh Sierra, grilled chicken, a wedge salad, and dessert. She fit right in as though she belonged, and not only was it a treat for her, it was a treat for me as well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2606439]Photo of the short set that I mentioned in the previous post.[/QUOTE]If you start out at the San Antonio metro station and walk west, the area bounded on the east by the north, south metro tracks, on the south by the east, west metro tracks, on the north by the Veracruz church and on the west by Carrera 54, is almost entirely shopping. Clothing stores of all types are in practically every building. You could probably spend 3 days doing nothing but checking out the stores and kiosks and still not find them all. There are lots of bargains, but quality does vary.

There are also dozens of shopping centers, malls or whatever you want to call them north of San Antonio between the Metro tracks and Oriental.

Another good spot for clothes shopping is in Itagui just around the corner from the Mayorista red light zone. It appears that the quality is a bit higher there, but prices are also higher.

If clothes shopping is your thing, Medellin is a good place to indulge. Before the drug cartels, the textile industry was Medellin's claim to fame.

I am looking to enjoy myself in Medellin, but cognizant of economics, especially in light of these past couple weeks about Supply and Demand conversations. Therefore I want a sanity check on prices per hour of girls. To me, $5 or $10 either way doesn't matter, but there's more to it than just me. Five bucks one time could mean $5 the second, and $5 the third, and so on.

Doing my research online of prepagos, many many of them are ball parking 150,000 COP per hour. I don't want to be the guy that starts the change here for myself the next time or for the next guy, so can I ask a consensus of the prices on things? I have been reading this forum for a bit now and this is what I have come to understand. Please vet my information for accuracy:

El Centro: 60 K COP is a reasonable rate, but for 30 minutes or hour? (from what I have read here. Assume no CIM, etc).

Online Girls: a range of 100 to 150 K per hour, that about right? (I saw an advert for 250 K, but just figured it was either bogus or she's vying for the WIN!

Massage Casa: set prices, but typically between 80 K to 130 K for 90 minutes?

Loutron: 300 K, set with no wiggle room. What is the time duration?

Gusto: 200 to 300 K, but goes for 2 hours to overnight. That sound right?

Parque Llares: range from 120 K (unknown time) to 400 K (for 3 hours)? That sound right?

Thoughts welcomed.

[QUOTE=Regnom3000;2605825]Been wanting to write this review for a minute and finally got around to it. As always, this is one man's experience. Take everything with a grain of salt. After a little time on this board I've realized the definition of beauty is vast and varied.

I normally go through the escort websites but wanted to try some casa action. Strictly for research purposes. Of course.

Fleshed out each story individually, but if you don't have the time (or feel like reading) did a simple 1-2 sentence recap of each at the beginning of each section

Zandalay (Sandra) 80 k / HR + 57 320xxxx034.

TL; DR: Zandalay lives up to the hype. Best looking girls (IMO), great prices, excellent layout, and the service is fantastic.


Hmu if you've got questions.

3 K.[/QUOTE]Where is it exactly?

This post is in response to reading the post about having phones out, printed pages, maps in general.

Medellin looks to be on a grid coordinate plane. With Calle being your X-axis and Carrera being your why-axis. The little trick for me is "calle East: and "Carrera north". It is a little mnemonic trick that says to me Calles run east-west and Carreras run north-south. See that I capitalized the same letters?

Calle North and Calle South has an event horizon that runs through Pobaldo. As you go north, the Calles count higher. Unless you are going to Invigato, Calle Sur (Sur is south in Spanish) will never enter your thinking. However, the same is true. Further south you go, the numbers will increase.

Carrera West and Carrera East does not seem to exist. The Carreras start way off in the east, so they just count from 1 on upwards as you go westwards. Having a river bifurcate the city is helpful, IMO, as it says "east-side" or "west-side", but to me though alone though as I don't know if anyone else sees it that way.

Does Medellin have squiggly streets? You bet it does, but it does not change the fact that you can pretty easily navigate if you know which way is north, or any one cardinal direction.

If you have been to NYC or any city with a grid system, even if it has twists and turns, you can figure out Medellin.

Nexuses to keep in mind: Carrera 39 and Calle 9, "Carrera 51 Calle 51" aka the center of the universe jajajaja kidding but rather Carrara 53/ Avenida Cundinamarca and Calle 52 which is Veracruz, and lastly La Setenta or aka Carrera 70.

In Medellin one week abd was curious as to everyone's first choice of strip club was?

Last trip spent many a nights at "Phase 2" anything better?

Thanks in advance. Will report in with where I end up!

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2606483]I am looking to enjoy myself in Medellin, but cognizant of economics, especially in light of these past couple weeks about Supply and Demand conversations. Therefore I want a sanity check on prices per hour of girls. To me, $5 or $10 either way doesn't matter, but there's more to it than just me. Five bucks one time could mean $5 the second, and $5 the third, and so on.

Doing my research online of prepagos, many many of them are ball parking 150,000 COP per hour. I don't want to be the guy that starts the change here for myself the next time or for the next guy, so can I ask a consensus of the prices on things? I have been reading this forum for a bit now and this is what I have come to understand. Please vet my information for accuracy:

El Centro: 60 K COP is a reasonable rate, but for 30 minutes or hour? (from what I have read here. Assume no CIM, etc).

Online Girls: a range of 100 to 150 K per hour, that about right? (I saw an advert for 250 K, but just figured it was either bogus or she's vying for the WIN!.[/QUOTE]Almost everything in your post is wrong, including the spelling for Parque Lleras.

First thing, you can stop worrying about being the first person to overpay. That bridge was crossed long before you were born. What you decide to pay is not going to change what I pay, or what anyone else pays.

El Centro girls are supposedly 30 k, that's typically for a maximum of 30 minutes, and often only 15-20.

For online advertisers 80 k-150 k for 1 hour is a reasonable range.

Casas are about 50 k for 30 minutes in El Centro. In Laureles they run between 80 k and 150 k per hour.

Loutron I believe is 300 k for 1 hour, although 1 hour is probably the maximum time you get for 300 k. If you finish in 30 minutes, your time is probably up.

Girls in Gusto usually start out at $200 USD. Some ask for less, some ask for more. When Gusto closes some will accept a lower price. The price generally is for 1 hour.

Girls working in Parque Lleras generally start at 200 k for 1 hour. Some want more, some want less.

My advice is to never negotiate for overnight with an unknown girl. There are too many unknown factors which could end up being an expensive disappointing experience. If you are clicking well with a girl, there's a chance she will be in no hurry to leave. Why offer her more to stay if she'll stay anyway? And why pay someone to stay around if they don't want to be there?

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2606483]I am looking to enjoy myself in Medellin, but cognizant of economics, especially in light of these past couple weeks about Supply and Demand conversations. Therefore I want a sanity check on prices per hour of girls. To me, $5 or $10 either way doesn't matter, but there's more to it than just me. Five bucks one time could mean $5 the second, and $5 the third, and so on.

Doing my research online of prepagos, many many of them are ball parking 150,000 COP per hour. I don't want to be the guy that starts the change here for myself the next time or for the next guy, so can I ask a consensus of the prices on things? I have been reading this forum for a bit now and this is what I have come to understand. Please vet my information for accuracy:

El Centro: 60 K COP is a reasonable rate, but for 30 minutes or hour? (from what I have read here. Assume no CIM, etc).

Online Girls: a range of 100 to 150 K per hour, that about right? (I saw an advert for 250 K, but just figured it was either bogus or she's vying for the WIN!

Massage Casa: set prices, but typically between 80 K to 130 K for 90 minutes?

Loutron: 300 K, set with no wiggle room. What is the time duration?

Gusto: 200 to 300 K, but goes for 2 hours to overnight. That sound right?

Parque Llares: range from 120 K (unknown time) to 400 K (for 3 hours)? That sound right?

Thoughts welcomed.[/QUOTE]Those prices are about right (other than 60 k high for Centro chica unless you're including the room in that).

IMO the longer times are irrelevant unless you've previously test-driven the chica in a short (one hour or so) session. There's little to gain and lots to lose by agreeing to a long-term deal with a girl you don't already know. First, there's always a good chance she cuts the encounter short inventing some excuse that she has to leave. Second, you might not like her nearly as much once she gets in the room with you. She could have bad baby damage, be on her period, or just have a smelly pussy.

It's always easier to extend the session if you're having a great time.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2606438]That doesn't mean that price is not going to go up over time as Medellin becomes more well-known and more Gringos float in but that's due to the number of Gringos and the increased demand they create and not the price they pay. If the number of Gringos increases and the number of putas equally increase to compensate for the increased demand then he price will stay the same. [/QUOTE]So basically what your saying is. Long Live Maduro!

Osteoknot,

The prices have already gone up in Centro over the last six months, and the notion that if the numbers of Gringos increase along with an equal number of Putas that prices will remain the same is not correct.

The reverse is true, with new mongers arriving and over-paying the Putas, prices will increase as word get's out thru the Puta grapevine what the newbie gringos are paying.

And to illustrate my point, I would say that during the last six months there has been more Putas showing up in El Centro, primarily Vennies, along with an increase in Gringos, but not as many Gringos as Putas.

And guess what, prices have gone up as a result of the newbie Gringos overpaying.

Of course this is just my personal observation based on my time here, versus something out of an Economics textbook that goes by the pure logic of supply and demand when constant.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2605724]My 10 day vacation is over. Had a lot of fun hung out with Laura this morning. Saw her 4 times LOL. She got all my money. My fake novia came yesterday. Made me think if I had no money would treat me like this. That's a sad thought. Would I be alone in medellin if I lived here if I was not doing citas. Anyways our time together was amazing like how do they fake this so well LOL. Was beat didn't want to into the crowd so I got some drinks and chilled in my room. Laura came this morning looking cute stripped and we banged for about 40 min. She already moving to my favorite positions and going to my condom stash LOL. You don't know me!!

Below is her page. Really nice classy lady wit some knockers👀. K own all the spots. Said next we will go to more places to eat. Services rendered as completed LOL. Thanks for this forum for assisting me in my travels. Should have went to el. Entro last night!!

[URL]https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001014467216[/URL][/QUOTE]Damn, she only has a photo of some cartoon. In terms of looks, what would you rate her?

[QUOTE=Shamester;2605698]Due to the strong dollar Brazil is a good value. The massage places are in cramped quarters but have big selection of chicas. Pricing is slightly above Centro chicas.[/QUOTE]This is good to know, what about chicas that are comparable to the ones from La Isla / Gusto? How many Brazilian real do they cost?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2605855]It depends on how you make the comparison. If you compare casa, for example, Energy in Laureles to typical Clinicas in Sao Paulo. The price is about the same, some are higher, some are lower. The difference being Clinica is cleaner in that you always get a clean towel, clean bed sheet, Listerine in the room, have not had a not working shower yet. GFE is the default. So I will say Sao Paulo is a far better value at this price range.

Sao Paulo has night clubs that can get expensive but again GFE is the default, you can just make out on the sofa for hours before going to the room which I did do in La Isla sometimes too but never to the extend that I can do in Sao Paulo clubs. There is no strippers asking for tips and the working girls rarely ask for drink, tip or upsell, at least I have not encountered one yet. LOL. If you like La Isla, then you will like clubs here. La Isla only has one bar. The clubs in Sao Paulo can have more than one bar, restaurant, pool table, cafe.

The comparison of metro in the two cites is similar. Medellin is cheaper but Sao Paulo is far better because it has more lines, longer distance, A/C, more signs and better, more handicap friendly, restrooms, shops and free condoms.[/QUOTE]Have you been to Rio? If so, which is better for mongering? Sao Paolo or Rio? I'd definitely like to check out Brazil.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2606002]They're advertising that BBBJ is on the menu.[/QUOTE]They may be advertising BJ but not BBBJ. There can not be that many that do BBBJ. If they are indeed advertising BBBJ, then at least half of the girls are lying.

[QUOTE=Regnom3000;2605825]Had heard you guys talk about Zandalay a ton on here so had to try it. I normally stick to Laureles, but when I saw in their WA stories they were running a 2 for 1 special for valentines day I figured was worth the trip (admittedly I've never had a threesome before, but like most always fantasized about it).[/QUOTE]So many guys do not pay attention to the small details, thus they post wrong information. There was no 2 for 1 which means buy one get one for free. The promo was one girl for 30 minutes for 40,000 which is normally 50,000, so you save 10,000. The other promo was get two girls for 30 minutes for 80,000 which I believe is normally 100,000, so you save 20,000. Seriously, think about it. Buy a girl and get the second girl for free? That does not sound too good to be true?

I heard "promo" when I walked in the door but thought it was a drink special which is usually the case. I assumed that the one Spanish speaker in our group of four would have got clarification and spread the knowledge when he ordered a drink. Nope. Never assume.

SoberHans69 was great and paid attention. The other two guys were in La La Land while walking Centro. The one Spanish speaker was an idiot! So many things he did wrong so I will only mention the last and biggest FU in front of Gustos. He is Asian and some Asian guy who speaks English starts talking to him and in under 5 minutes talks about visas and investing money to stay in Colombia. (Hint! Hint! Invest in my company or my buddy's company). Then this guy says there is this place where you do not pay the girls you just buy them Tussy (drugs). SoberHans69 and I walked away but the retarded guy stayed with him as we walked off. These are the guys that lose all their shit or get killed. If you are that stupid you deserve everything you get.

Two girls I had in Manizales 3 months ago found their way to Centro 2 months ago. In less than a month one of the two has found Parque Lleras. Fast learner. Tried to get her number when I ran into her in front of Gustos. She played the "I do not have a phone" game. That means take me now or forget it. Funny she could afford a phone working in Manizales but not working Parque Lleras.

Saw 7 ex-centro girls working Parque Lleras. (4 good, 1 bad, 2 never tried) One is an ex-glue sniffer. Hot body. Another one was a piece of crap who did not take off her shoes or shirt. Just pulled her shirt up and assumed the doggie position. Stick it in and be quick about it. I was warning a guy about her at Centro 7 months ago when a guy with us said, "Yup, same thing happened to me". She is now at Parque Lleras. No way she is a superstar just from change of scenery. She is either giving horrible attitude, shorting the time, limiting positions, or something of that sort. Which connects to another observation. This * was with a friend. Her friend I have seen at Centro in front of that yellow restaurant that I always post about that have horrible girls in the front. Funny that the girl I know is crap has found a girl from a location full of girls that are crap. You are the company you keep. One bad apple will teach the other one. Feel sorry for the guys that will pay 200,000 for it. I paid 40,000 and was angry. But no worries. They will take the girl and post here that she was a superstar and stayed all night. An example of this is the retard guy mentioned above. He kept showing this picture of this girl he had. She had a cute face was all I could tell from the picture. Well he was nice enough to point her out when we were at Parque Lleras. She was chunky / chubby, on the tall side with smallish boobs for her height and weight, and her face was really close to ugly. Her picture and reality did not compute. SoberHans69 was less than impressed also. I gave him my honest assessment and would not have paid 30,000 at Centro for that. He said he was drunk. I could not be that drunk. If I could get that drunk to do her, then I would have committed suicide first thing in the morning or lopped my pecker off.

[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] Many of you are having sex with them in Parque Lleras for 200,000. And many are bragging about my glue sniffer. Took her 2-3 times last year and once a month ago and pretty sure she is now an ex-glue sniffer. So congrats on your wonderous find.

Now let us focus on food. One block away is The Greek Connection which is expensive, small portions, and tastes like crap. One of the worst meals I have eaten.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2606613]Osteoknot,

The prices have already gone up in Centro over the last six months, and the notion that if the numbers of Gringos increase along with an equal number of Putas that prices will remain the same is not correct.

The reverse is true, with new mongers arriving and over-paying the Putas, prices will increase as word get's out thru the Puta grapevine what the newbie gringos are paying.

And to illustrate my point, I would say that during the last six months there has been more Putas showing up in El Centro, primarily Vennies, along with an increase in Gringos, but not as many Gringos as Putas.

And guess what, prices have gone up as a result of the newbie Gringos overpaying.

Of course this is just my personal observation based on my time here, versus something out of an Economics textbook that goes by the pure logic of supply and demand when constant.[/QUOTE]There's no such thing as any "law" of supply and demand except in the imaginations of Adam Smith and the overly simplistic arguments of Osteoknot. There's always been a very high demand for pay for play in Medellin, but from the more shrewd locals. With the influx of far more naive tourists prices can spike and the type of consumers is very relevant in the analysis.

Busy with work and stuff so couldn't do my usual plan, had to go to Barra Ejecutiva since it is open late and relatively safe.

Slow Monday night basically all girls in there though ha, 15 girl, 5-10 fuckable. Went to the bar to grab a beer and look at the talent. Walked back to the front to chill, saw a good one with a friend. Male worker comes to single to big breast girl she's up next to go on stage, then the guy changes his mind and tells her friend she's going on stage. Perfect for me as the big boobs walks back I single her to come over.

Negotiate 100 k oral natural for 2 nuts in 30 minutes, made the mistake of asking if the room is included and girl says "yes its 15 k more" so 115 k total for two nuts in 30 minutes with BBBJ. Next time I'll not ask if the room is extra and it'll be 100 k agreed upon. Her name was Sabrina, nice face and great boob surgeon because I didn't realize until she was on bottom they were fake. I only felt like busting one nut and chilled with her a little bit after, told her to keep the change that she got after the agreed so 150 k total will not tip so much next time (about $38-$40) total still so not bad. I was in the club for no more than 35 min, if I had more time I'd chill there longer it a good place if you have the time to watch the show and shoot the shit with some people.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2606627]They may be advertising BJ but not BBBJ. There can not be that many that do BBBJ. If they are indeed advertising BBBJ, then at least half of the girls are lying.

So many guys do not pay attention to the small details, thus they post wrong information. There was no 2 for 1 which means buy one get one for free. The promo was one girl for 30 minutes for 40,000 which is normally 50,000, so you save 10,000. The other promo was get two girls for 30 minutes for 80,000 which I believe is normally 100,000, so you save 20,000. Seriously, think about it. Buy a girl and get the second girl for free? That does not sound too good to be true?

I heard "promo" when I walked in the door but thought it was a drink special which is usually the case. I assumed that the one Spanish speaker in our group of four would have got clarification and spread the knowledge when he ordered a drink. Nope. Never assume..[/QUOTE]Thanks again for the casa tour, really enjoyed that and hanging out in Parque Lleras.

The talent was poor in Parque Lleras that night, I didn't see anything I wanted to pay 200 k for nevermind more.

The best girls in New Life and Zandaly were better than the girls in Parque Lleras that night.

Had a really pretty Paisa called Sara from Parque Lleras tonight, she had a lovely face, tight body with perky tits and ass with a bar piercing through both.

As soon as we had showered she shoved her tongue down my throat. She was rubbing up and down on me rubbish her pussy down my cock and teasing with putting it her pussy without a condom.

Sex was really good, great performer and sweet girl. Highly recommended.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2606616]Damn, she only has a photo of some cartoon. In terms of looks, what would you rate her?[/QUOTE]I friended Laura and unfriended her immediately after seeing her pictures. Each to their own but IMO she's 5/10 in terms of looks at best.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2606627] Saw 7 ex-centro girls working Parque Lleras. (4 good, 1 bad, 2 never tried) One is an ex-glue sniffer. Hot body. Another one was a piece of crap who did not take off her shoes or shirt. Just pulled her shirt up and assumed the doggie position. Stick it in and be quick about it. I was warning a guy about her at Centro 7 months ago when a guy with us said, "Yup, same thing happened to me". She is now at Parque Lleras. No way she is a superstar just from change of scenery. She is either giving horrible attitude, shorting the time, limiting positions, or something of that sort. Which connects to another observation. This * was with a friend. Her friend I have seen at Centro in front of that yellow restaurant that I always post about that have horrible girls in the front. Funny that the girl I know is crap has found a girl from a location full of girls that are crap. You are the company you keep. One bad apple will teach the other one. Feel sorry for the guys that will pay 200,000 for it. I paid 40,000 and was angry. But no worries. They will take the girl and post here that she was a superstar and stayed all night. An example of this is the retard guy mentioned above. He kept showing this picture of this girl he had. She had a cute face was all I could tell from the picture. Well he was nice enough to point her out when we were at Parque Lleras. She was chunky / chubby, on the tall side with smallish boobs for her height and weight, and her face was really close to ugly. Her picture and reality did not compute. SoberHans69 was less than impressed also. I gave him my honest assessment and would not have paid 30,000 at Centro for that. He said he was drunk. I could not be that drunk. If I could get that drunk to do her, then I would have committed suicide first thing in the morning or lopped my pecker off.
.[/QUOTE]Very amusing post, which unfortunately illustrates the changes taking place in Medellin for mongering as a result of Colombia being wide open, while many places like Thailand and the Philippines are shut down.

We now have all these "know it all" and "bragging"" newbie Colombian mongers showing up from around the World who would of never even considered coming here if there was no Pandemic. To be fair to them, I'm not saying they don't know what there doing in the Countries they normally go to, but a newbie showing up here will not be in tune with what can be had here and for how cheap. So for the guys pulling girls from Lleras, and paying 200 K, I don't feel sorry for them, yet find it amusing, and get a laugh out of it.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2606613]And guess what, prices have gone up as a result of the newbie Gringos overpaying.
[/QUOTE]I think it is some of both but the sudden surge of new mongers comes as a shock to the system which causes sudden price change. Maybe the price is still searching for the equilibrium.

Hello folks,

I am planning to take my first trip to Medellin in a few weeks and looking for some guidance.

I have activated my Seeking account and getting a lot of messages from hot chicks in Medellin. I am wondering what is the success rate to meet these women, how much flakiness to expect so I can plan and set double or triple dates?

How do I find FB girls to meet, what shall I search for on FB?

I am looking for good quality girls who offer GFE. Which clubs or locations would you recommend to find these kind of chicks?

I am reading the forum daily and would appreciate your input on above topics.

Thanks in advance.

JM.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2606793]I think it is some of both but the sudden surge of new mongers comes as a shock to the system which causes sudden price change. Maybe the price is still searching for the equilibrium.[/QUOTE]It's complicated for sure. The definite shock to the system is what all the Putas are observing with mongers showing up from all around the World who speak other languages besides English, versus pretty much only North American gringos showing up a few years before the Pandemic began.

And the smarter putas, which I will label as the "gringo hunters" are getting in on the bounty.

Can't blame them one bit, business women plying the oldest business around.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2606793]I think it is some of both but the sudden surge of new mongers comes as a shock to the system which causes sudden price change. Maybe the price is still searching for the equilibrium.[/QUOTE]I studied economics at univ many years ago. It was only years later, when I studied independently out of personal interest, that it was the biggest waste of time I ever made. The worst course I could have taken. Maybe it should rank even lower than a theology course. They claim it is BSc, but the reality it is BA. Or BS! Haha.

What none of you have mentioned regards street prices is that they are limited by the price of the casas. What would the point be of taken a street girl if you could get an equal girl in a better room, with less risk and with more convenience for the same price?

My experience is that they still ask 30 k on the street. Maybe I am just better looking than you folks. Haha.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2606621]Have you been to Rio? If so, which is better for mongering? Sao Paolo or Rio? I'd definitely like to check out Brazil.[/QUOTE]Sao Paulo -- casas are better than Medellin. Upscale options have a phenomenal selection of chicas.

IMO Rio termas are overrated.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2606828] My experience is that they still ask 30 k on the street. Maybe I am just better looking than you folks. Haha.[/QUOTE]I think for guys with a high level of Spanish speaking skills like you, once you engage some of these Puta's, many will not try to pull the wool over your eyes like a guy struggling to communicate with them. Now as far you getting the locals pricing because your so handsome, well I don't think so! LOL.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2606828]What none of you have mentioned regards street prices is that they are limited by the price of the casas.[/QUOTE]Well, not everybody think they are the same market or even offer the same service. Do you ever hear Surfer mentions casa? I go to all these places, including local places that are rarely mentioned. I never relate their price that way. I was occasionally paying 50 K 2 years ago and there were others like me and we never really affected the price at that time.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2606690]I friended Laura and unfriended her immediately after seeing her pictures. Each to their own but IMO she's 5/10 in terms of looks at best.[/QUOTE]Dude she is better in person. It's the service that gets you. I thought just like you and didn't reach out to her on the first trip. That was a mistake. The service is great. She ain't ugly but of course to each his own. It was the beat sex I had here and the breasts were natural. Have I see. Prettier girls here, yes, will I repeat with them no. To each his own.

It's pretty funny that this is a subject of debate because the facts are so clear. So, one more time, the going rate on the Centro streets is 30 K. Now, I have a bone to pick with you guys. You guys are a pain in the ass. You are disrupting that Centro rat lifestyle with all this back and forth. Twice since last week I paid 40 K to a couple of my regulars. I'm convinced it's the result of me reading all these circular debates about street pricing. But seriously, as I've said before, I don't care what anyone else pays. I pay what I am willing to pay -30 K or less much more often than not. Also, I get no satisfaction or feel any schadenfreude when I saw Centro street girls working Lleras for ten times what they get back at Ground Zero. I am rarely in Lleras so if I notice them it must be a thing.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2606828]I studied economics at univ many years ago. It was only years later, when I studied independently out of personal interest, that it was the biggest waste of time I ever made. The worst course I could have taken. Maybe it should rank even lower than a theology course. They claim it is BSc, but the reality it is BA. Or BS! Haha.

What none of you have mentioned regards street prices is that they are limited by the price of the casas. What would the point be of taken a street girl if you could get an equal girl in a better room, with less risk and with more convenience for the same price?

My experience is that they still ask 30 k on the street. Maybe I am just better looking than you folks. Haha.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2606478]If you start out at the San Antonio metro station and walk west, the area bounded on the east by the north, south metro tracks, on the south by the east, west metro tracks, on the north by the Veracruz church and on the west by Carrera 54, is almost entirely shopping. Clothing stores of all types are in practically every building. You could probably spend 3 days doing nothing but checking out the stores and kiosks and still not find them all. There are lots of bargains, but quality does vary.

There are also dozens of shopping centers, malls or whatever you want to call them north of San Antonio between the Metro tracks and Oriental.

Another good spot for clothes shopping is in Itagui just around the corner from the Mayorista red light zone. It appears that the quality is a bit higher there, but prices are also higher.

If clothes shopping is your thing, Medellin is a good place to indulge. Before the drug cartels, the textile industry was Medellin's claim to fame.[/QUOTE]Yes -- the denim and pricing in Medellin is phenomenal. The Super Fashion Center is fully of homegrown discount stores. The stiching is average but the selection and pricing is great.

The malls are slighty higher priced but the quality justifies the extra price.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2606621]Have you been to Rio? If so, which is better for mongering? Sao Paolo or Rio? I'd definitely like to check out Brazil.[/QUOTE]So Paulo is better for pure mongering, the best city in the world for our hobby IMO. Rio is a more fun city and has a very good mongering scene, though not what it used to be.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2606861]It's pretty funny that this is a subject of debate because the facts are so clear. So, one more time, the going rate on the Centro streets is 30 K. Now, I have a bone to pick with you guys. You guys are a pain in the ass. You are disrupting that Centro rat lifestyle with all this back and forth. Twice since last week I paid 40 K to a couple of my regulars. I'm convinced it's the result of me reading all these circular debates about street pricing. But seriously, as I've said before, I don't care what anyone else pays. I pay what I am willing to pay -30 K or less much more often than not. Also, I get no satisfaction or feel any schadenfreude when I saw Centro street girls working Lleras for ten times what they get back at Ground Zero. I am rarely in Lleras so if I notice them it must be a thing.[/QUOTE]I don't think any of the street rats on this board would disagree with you that the rack rate or going rate is 30 K. However, it is applicable to the locals that make up probably more than 95% of the punters in Centro, and the few street rats / mongers with lots of experience in Medellin who are in the know and proficient in Spanish.

So to fully understand where your coming from, are you saying that a couple of your regulars jacked their pricing up to you during the last week from 30 K to 40 K?

And if so, that is your bone to pick?

After Cartagena I was in Medellin, was very dispointed. On Saturday many beautiful girls, I choose a very nice 21 years old, blond, slim (Alexandra 250 000 pesos) but in bed only a business girl not GFE, on Sunday the place was empty so I went back home and my last day Monday not lot of girls too, I went to Gusto paid 40 000 pesos for the entrance and inside 4 girls ugly and 3 men (10 h30 pm), then I moved, picked up a colombian girl (Fernanda 200 000 pesos) but also a reallu business girl not GFE at all.

Llleras park is nice from Thursday to Saturday, the girls told me.

Sorry for my english.

I was on Saturday afternoon in Plaza Botero, very nice place and about 200 prostitutes inside the place and all around, impossible to pay even 1 peso to have sex with these girls, what a terrible life for these poor girls.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2606961]After Cartagena I was in Medellin, was very dispointed. On Saturday many beautiful girls, I choose a very nice 21 years old, blond, slim (Alexandra 250 000 pesos) but in bed only a business girl not GFE, on Sunday the place was empty so I went back home and my last day Monday not lot of girls too, I went to Gusto paid 40 000 pesos for the entrance and inside 4 girls ugly and 3 men (10 h30 pm), then I moved, picked up a colombian girl (Fernanda 200 000 pesos) but also a reallu business girl not GFE at all.

Llleras park is nice from Thursday to Saturday, the girls told me.

Sorry for my english.[/QUOTE]My man you got swindled for the cover, the cover max is 20 k. I was in Medellin Thursday-Sunday and went to Gustos twice. I would advise first talking to the girl, google translate is okay and joke a little with her to get her friendly and then start negotiating. Tell them exactly you want before hand and you'll pay after and no more talk after money after you agree. There are tons of fantastic girls in all of the places and your attitude is key, YMMV always applies but go in with a good attitude and confidence and you'll have much better luck. I just got back Sunday so if you have any questions on clubs or any other tips feel free to pm.

OM Spa - CC Rio Sur - Monday 12p

Incredibly overpriced but just what I was looking for, really.

I needed a walk, and it was the perfect 20 minute journey. Poked around Rio Sur and felt most comfortable with OM Spa, and remembered JJBee has mentioned it. I asked how much the hour long massage was after I was done, so I really can't complain. Whatever they said wasn't going to change my mind. The interesting part was Luciana, a thicker girl with a cute face, asked how I wanted to finish; manual or oral stimulation. JJBee can maybe help with the pricing here, and maybe tell me if she up-sold me... but it was 130k for oral and 80k for manual, I believe. The massage was 180k for a grand total of 310k. The BBBJ was good and the massage was pretty decent, as well. I asked for the sports (deportiva) massage.

Zandalay - Centro - Tuesday 2p

50k for 30 mins

Took a lap of Botero / Veracruz and then walked to Zandalay. Presentation was about 10 girls. I liked the setup better than New Life, which I think might be the only other casa I've actually sealed the deal in. The little bar area is a nice touch, but I wasn't in the mood. I ended up choosing the first girl - "Andrea" who can be identified by her right arm sleeve of tattoos and why necklace, which is her real first initial. She is a vennie who probably was once much better. The lights are dim in the bar, and I was fooled a bit. Although, her attitude and performance made up for my visual mistake. She has a little stomach and titty damage from a baby, I'm guessing, but just the shape of her stomach not the visual damage type. Her ass is thick and she was fun. CBJ, 7-8 positions, spanking, hair-pulling, no DFK but I didn't try, and I was sweating with the fan on. We had a little laugh in one position where she started saying something and I thought she was saying stop, but she was saying the complete opposite. The showers are decent and if for some ungodly reason you want a little blow up jacuzzi, there was one in the room. Headed back out for another lap and then went home.

Novia is back in her pueblo so I'm making due until her return. The jacuzzi parties have been frequent and fantastic, but I've begun to realize that info doesn't really help anyone. Especially, when the novia has become pretty damn amazing at getting girls over for free. By free, I mean I probably pay as much in food, drinks, pink, & DiDi (in some cases) as a couple rounds at a centro casa would cost, or a quickie from Parque Lleras. Although, with no clock, no rules, and no stress.

Cheers.

Went to Zandaly today to try and see a girl called Sofia who I saw the last time I was there but didn't take as ID just had a session in New Life. Unfortunately she was busy and BM Luminous didn't want to session there so we went to New Life.

The line up wasn't as good as the other day but there was still some cuties in there. Ended up taking a white Venezuelan with jet black curly hair who gave a good performance, can't remember her name though sorry.

[QUOTE=Jadoomazar;2606796]
How do I find FB girls to meet, what shall I search for on FB?

I am looking for good quality girls who offer GFE. Which clubs or locations would you recommend to find these kind of chicks?
[/QUOTE]You should read the Reports of Distinction thread. This will take you there.

[QUOTE=Reports of Distinction;2562106]Reports of Distinction[/QUOTE]I think GFE at a club is hit and miss. There is no guarantee.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2607004]OM
Novia is back in her pueblo so I'm making due until her return. The jacuzzi parties have been frequent and fantastic, but I've begun to realize that info doesn't really help anyone. Especially, when the novia has become pretty damn amazing at getting girls over for free. By free, I mean I probably pay as much in food, drinks, pink, & DiDi (in some cases) as a couple rounds at a centro casa would cost, or a quickie from Parque Lleras. Although, with no clock, no rules, and no stress. Cheers.[/QUOTE]I don't think you realize how many guys were salivating at the photo's of all the Barbie Dolls you where banging when the Country was shutdown. And your probably right about your exploits not helping anyone nowadays, and I know mine wouldn't either, but there were guys vicariously living thru your posts during the height of the shutdown.

Welcome back!

Was going to go somewhere but wouldn't get there so went to Tantra. 5 girls, 4 fuckable and choose Camila. 130 k for the hour plus 50 k for oral natural. Great body, tits, BJ and massage.

No, my regulars did not jack up their price. I just gave them the 40 k. Well to be completely truthful I think it was more like 35 k or so. I am only half serious when I complain about the members here being the reason. It is 100% true most of the Centro pubters are locals It's also true the girls jack up the price for foreigners. I've seen it with my own eyes many times.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2606947]I don't think any of the street rats on this board would disagree with you that the rack rate or going rate is 30 K. However, it is applicable to the locals that make up probably more than 95% of the punters in Centro, and the few street rats / mongers with lots of experience in Medellin who are in the know and proficient in Spanish.

So to fully understand where your coming from, are you saying that a couple of your regulars jacked their pricing up to you during the last week from 30 K to 40 K?

And if so, that is your bone to pick?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2607004]OM Spa - CC Rio Sur - Monday 12p

Novia is back in her pueblo so I'm making due until her return. The jacuzzi parties have been frequent and fantastic, but I've begun to realize that info doesn't really help anyone. Especially, when the novia has become pretty damn amazing at getting girls over for free. By free, I mean I probably pay as much in food, drinks, pink, & DiDi (in some cases) as a couple rounds at a centro casa would cost, or a quickie from Parque Lleras. Although, with no clock, no rules, and no stress.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Hey man glad to hear you are alive and still doing well after returning to Medellin and the stolen cell phone by taxi thing. You're right there's nothing much to learn from your experiences with regulars because you are living in Medellin while most of us come and go. But your stories and pictures are still very entertaining and we can enjoy living vicariously jaja. Please share some if you feel so inclined. Did you ever see coinslot again or is she officially 86'd?

Surprised you never tried Zandaly before. It was my first sex in Medellin and cost about $14 worth of pesos when the exchange rate was 2350 to 1 dollar. There were hot girls back then but it went downhill the couple years before Covid. I look forward to seeing the newest line-up very soon

For you facebook guys, word on the street is to watch out for this chick.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2606850]Well, not everybody think they are the same market or even offer the same service.[/QUOTE]Interesting thought. I know some folk go with street girls bcos the price is better than the casas. I am one of them. For me, its a simple price decision between the two options.

So what are the benefits of going with street girls over casa girls, if its not just price? . Assuming you don't have a pre-exisitng relationship w either?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2607227]For you facebook guys, word on the street is to watch out for this chick.[/QUOTE]Don't know her and she isn't on my 'friends' list but all the same. Thank you very much for the head's up. This type of information makes the board a valuable asset for everyone.

[QUOTE=Lucky Nuts;2607105]Hey man glad to hear you are alive and still doing well after returning to Medellin and the stolen cell phone by taxi thing. You're right there's nothing much to learn from your experiences with regulars because you are living in Medellin while most of us come and go. But your stories and pictures are still very entertaining and we can enjoy living vicariously jaja. Please share some if you feel so inclined. Did you ever see coinslot again or is she officially 86'd?

Surprised you never tried Zandaly before. It was my first sex in Medellin and cost about $14 worth of pesos when the exchange rate was 2350 to 1 dollar. There were hot girls back then but it went downhill the couple years before Covid. I look forward to seeing the newest line-up very soon[/QUOTE]


Forgot to mention that there were 6 masseuses working at OM Spa and that the lineup at Zandalay was average (obviously, if the one I picked was just ok).

LuckyNuts, CoinSlot was permanently 86'd after biting the hand that fed her.

Here's some pics from the past month (missing a couple of my favorites but I'll keep them a secret).

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2607289]Here's some pics from the past month (missing a couple of my favorites but I'll keep them a secret).[/QUOTE]Love the 3rd picture. I am trying to guess what profession you are in. LOL.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2607279]So what are the benefits of going with street girls over casa girls, if its not just price? . Assuming you don't have a pre-exisitng relationship w either?[/QUOTE]The difference can be like night and day. In a casa your bound more or less by the house rules if that makes sense.

When you go with a street girl you can better control everything from where to stay and having more privacy. Of course a casa is going to be a much safer option with hopefully no rogue Chicas, yet avoiding some of the bullshit the street Chicas can pull can be avoided. Lot's of guys go to casa's because it's predictable and safe. Doesn't take a lot of work either, like shooting fish in a barrel. And basically no Spanish speaking skills required.

I haven't mentioned price, and quite frankly it doesn't come into the equation how I look at the difference between the two. It's really not that much in the scheme of things. It's the experience that matters.

So an example to illustrate my point.

Say your at a casa, you make your selection, you get in the room and there's instant chemistry, sparks are flying, and than times up, unless you pay for more.

And your really digging the girl, and she is into you.

So you have to ask yourself, where would you rather be with this girl at that moment?

Love Hotel or a Casa.

Use your imagination on this one.

Will be in Medellin in November for a week or so. Would really like to see a pregnant girl, if anyone knows one please let me know.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2607279]Interesting thought. I know some folk go with street girls bcos the price is better than the casas. I am one of them. For me, its a simple price decision between the two options.

So what are the benefits of going with street girls over casa girls, if its not just price? . Assuming you don't have a pre-exisitng relationship w either?[/QUOTE]Just my observation, I think street girls are more like bar girls. You can know them and negotiate before taking them. You can take them back to your hotel or apartment to do your thing, haha.

Casa's service is more or less fixed with time constraint. Not so with street girl once you know them, and it can get to a point that they are no different than FB girls, only cheaper. When I was there last time, there were frequent new arrivals, so you can get fresh talents too. I know there were few that I was either their first customer or the first few customers but I don't pick the prettiest or the popular ones and I pay them well too, relatively speaking. I don't think many of them take as many customers as posted here. If that was the case, they would have raised the price long before. I have not been there for a while so this may all have changed

I also visited La Isla frequently. I think about convivence and comfort before price and I like to try new places.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2607289]Here's some pics from the past month (missing a couple of my favorites but I'll keep them a secret).[/QUOTE]Holy Toledo, your stable of Barbie Dolls is off the charts! LOL.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2607299]Just my observation, I think street girls are more like bar girls. You can know them and negotiate before taking them. You can take them back to your hotel or apartment to do your thing, haha.
Casa's service is more or less fixed with time constraint. Not so with street girl once you know them, and it can get to a point that they are no different than FB girls, only cheaper. When I was there last time, there were frequent new arrivals, so you can get fresh talents too. [/QUOTE]Well, the truth is that you can invite the casa girls out too. I regularly see a couple of them. We go for drinks, meals sometimes, or sometimes they just come round my place after work or on their days off.

I can concede though that there is more easily visible choice on the street than in any one casa. That is an advantage of street action. Maybe the only real advantage. Not one that I (me) am going to pay extra for though. And that's not even considering the numerous potential disadvantages.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2607323]Well, the truth is that you can invite the casa girls out too. I regularly see a couple of them. We go for drinks, meals sometimes, or sometimes they just come round my place after work or on their days off.[/QUOTE]I guess next time I would ask them each to sit with me for a few minutes and converse with translator during lineup. If I like one of them, I will take her out. 😉

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2607227]For you facebook guys, word on the street is to watch out for this chick.[/QUOTE]I heard the same from a reputable source. Can't stand a thief when we're just trying to help these girls make a living!

[QUOTE=JustTK;2607279]Interesting thought. I know some folk go with street girls bcos the price is better than the casas. I am one of them. For me, its a simple price decision between the two options.

So what are the benefits of going with street girls over casa girls, if its not just price? . Assuming you don't have a pre-exisitng relationship w either?[/QUOTE]The benefits are all in the mind of the monger, and it varies from day to day and from monger to monger. Here's a few of the "benefits:

The thrill of the hunt. I haven't seen this one mentioned recently. Finding that fresh, new, just 18 beauty who is just starting (although if we're being realistic she probably has 6 years of experience), and being her first foreigner.

The art of the deal. Getting the girl who normally charges more for a low rate, or getting extras for free. Again, if we're being realistic, someone else is getting her for free.

The sleaze factor. This one doesn't get mentioned much, but it's a common motivation. Some mongers seek out the worst of the street areas because they enjoy the rawness. Although I don't partake, this is why I like to walk around El Centro. If I feel the need to wallow in the sleaze factor I'll go to one of the lesser known bars and try to find a girl who appeals to my mood.

There are other assumed benefits, the same as there are benefits to going to Loutron or La Isla, or paying $500 for some girl. But the benefits are only real in the mind of the monger.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2607289]Forgot to mention that there were 6 masseuses working at OM Spa and that the lineup at Zandalay was average (obviously, if the one I picked was just ok).

LuckyNuts, CoinSlot was permanently 86'd after biting the hand that fed her.

Here's some pics from the past month (missing a couple of my favorites but I'll keep them a secret).[/QUOTE]If you add OM Spa on WhatsApp they post which girls are working each day and occasionally post specials. I haven't used OM Spa before. My favorite is Zen Spa, up 1 floor, followed by Dan Spa, down 1 floor. The massages have all been excellent, but the extras vary quite a bit and the prices are high.

Since you seem to go through a lot of bikinis, you might check out a_mar_swimwear on Instagram. They're located in Envigado and they deliver.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2607294]Love the 3rd picture. I am trying to guess what profession you are in. LOL.[/QUOTE]He's a jacuzzi salesman.

[QUOTE=Md955;2607298]Will be in Medellin in November for a week or so. Would really like to see a pregnant girl, if anyone knows one please let me know.[/QUOTE]Just go to El Centro at the intersection of Calle / Carrea 52 around 4 PM in the afternoon and keep your eyes open, there will be at least a couple out if not more ready to sit on your face if you want!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2607378]The benefits are all in the mind of the monger, and it varies from day to day and from monger to monger. Here's a few of the "benefits:[/QUOTE]Hmmmh. I'll give you the thrill of the edginess of El Centro, there is smthg to that. Although one could argue you could get some of that from the casas too. Walking around the streets, trying to find the darn places. BUt I guess you can't replace the "thrill" of picking up a chick and inheriting those potential dangers without a safety net. Although I would put that under a disadvantage. Haha.

Negotiating a price for extras, finding a fresh arrival etc. These are things you can do in the casas too.

Ahhh! I thought of one! Fkn a pregnant girl, an underage girl, a glue addict, one of the crazies that runs around shouting at imaginary peoplel. These are things that you probably cannot do in the casas. Although you could maybe ask the mamasan. Hehe. Yep, I guess I got to think out of my own box to see some of the attractions of others.

Anyone have ever tried Swingers club in Medellin and I know that there are few of them. One of my girl in Medellin has agreed to take me to one of the swingers club during my November visit.

3rd foto, mango juice in one hand, pizza in the other, cell phone in lap, and obviously in bed. 2nd foto best Mexican food I've ever eaten, I want by it every morning I will get the name and address if you want it.

Running two hotel rooms tonight, 10 minute walk apart. Other random fotos from the last 48 hours. Too busy fucking to post. Planning my exit strategy for back to the United States.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2607227]For you facebook guys, word on the street is to watch out for this chick.[/QUOTE]No way. I have her added to my Facebook. What did she do? I didn't see her yet but I was planning to see her.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2607465]Anyone have ever tried Swingers club in Medellin and I know that there are few of them. One of my girl in Medellin has agreed to take me to one of the swingers club during my November visit.[/QUOTE]Many reports, some from me. Make a search and you should find. I am curious to hear what is the current situation with COVID.

I finally made it to Medellin. Arrived on the 16th from Bogota and made my way to Ayenda Lukas on LA 70, booked a superior double room for 4 days, checked in and went exploring. The hotel and room was terrible, LOL, it was very small, the safe did not work and the bed was extremely hard. LA 70 is very active day and night for anyone that has never been, many bars, restaurants and little shops / vendors. Headed to Parque Lleras around 9 pm to meet up with SoberHanz69, had some beers and walked around looking at the girls, there were many options but I was just doing some recon and got a few whatsapp numbers. We met up with a couple of guys from NY and hung around with them for most of the evening, I headed back to my hotel around 2.

I left the Hotel Lukas on the 17th and got a full refund minus the 1 night I stayed which was nice. Found The Origen Local Suites, a little more expensive but I have a large room with a kitchenette and laundry area for 157.000 cop a night. The guest policy is no charge during the day from 8 am until 9 pm for 4 hours and 50.000 cop for an overnight guest or after 9 pm. One warning if you stay, it is noisy if it bothers you, ask for a room higher up. Spent the rest of the day bar hopping and talking to a girl I met many months ago as we had plans for Saturday, the day of love and friendship.

Saturday the 18th, my girl came to my hotel after she finished work and we went exploring, went to Parque Arvi on the cable cars and then down to her apartment in La Estrella, met her father and 1 of her daughters LOL. We came back to the hotel and spent a few hours in a sweaty pile, we both passed out exhausted and satisfied. She left Sunday to go home and get ready for the week, gave her 50.000 cop for taxi and relaxed the rest of the day.

Monday I headed to El Centro, went the wrong way off of the metro and spent a while getting my bearings and finally making it to ground zero. It was around 2 pm and felt totally safe walking around but there didn't seem to be many girls working. Headed to Radual<sp and went 2 or 3 blocks too far toward Prado station, things started to get sketchy so headed back to the the church to get my bearings. Scouted around a bit more and at around 4 noticed a lot more girls, hit up a super skinny spinner on the glass walkway beside the church, 40.000 for 30 min plus 7. 500 for the room. She showered before hand and she she stood beside me in the bathroom after when I had my shower, so I felt safe with her and my jeans / phone was never out of sight unless she was by my side.

Tuesday, headed back to El Centro and met up with SoberHanz69 again and another BM who I forget his username, he showed Hanz and I around to some of the casas, viewed the lineup at Zandaly and another casa but wanted to try new life. The Board member had to take off so Hanz and I headed to new life, I picked a nice looking girl and had a great time in the room, shower before and after, CBJ, multiple positions and finished in quatro. 55.000 for the girl for 30 minutes and 5 k for a beer so 60 k total, I'll be back to new life LOL. Left new life and met up with one of the guys we met in Lleras before, went back to the church and found a little blond for the the guy from NY to pop his El Centro cherry, waited for him to finish, Hanz headed back to his hotel, NY and I got a bite to eat and he took off. I walked around Centro a little more and departed around 7 pm on the metro. I'll say it again, felt perfectly safe walking around centro even after it was starting to get dark, I don't know if I want to be there after 9 pm or so but if you are aware of your surrounding and "no dar papaya" then you should have nothing to worry about.

Yesterday, Wednesday it was raining, bought a few groceries and hung out in my hotel being lazy, today I am planning to head back to Centro to see what it's like before noon. I hope I didn't bore everyone but wanted to share my adventure so far.

At the airport now, heading to Cartagena and although I did enjoy my trip, I doubt I'll return. This is mainly due to the language barrier and logistics of getting there from my town though.

I really enjoyed the street workers and casas in El Centro but didn't really enjoy Parque Lleras at night. Granted I didn't go in many bars or Gusto's but I didn't find the majority of SW's much better than the quality at New Life and Zandaly.

I won't miss the food (my blood pressure has probably jumped up due to the salt) or the hills.

I did enjoy eating at La Pampa and Barbaro Cocina though and highly recommend them. I also enjoyed the ice cream at Crepes and Waffles and a few other places too.

Was great to meet you Luminous and thanks again for showing me around El Centro LoveItHere69.

Just made it to Medellin. First night, Fase dos. I actually wanted to go to La Isla, but the taxi driver kept fighting me about it jaja. I'm guessing he probably got a commission or something. I didn't want to get another cab because it was raining and that that was first taxi that stopped after 10 minutes in the rain so I just went to fase dos. As soon as I got there and sat at the table, this chick came up to me. Arriely or something. Kinda bleh, but whatever. I'm open to something if I find them charming or have some element of their personally that I like. She's immediately pushy, asking for tips and shit. Asks for a drink. I do get her one, because I'm there alone and don't mind having someone to chat to for awhile. Immediately after getting the drink, she asks me if I want to fuck. I tell her maybe in an hour or so. She then bounces. Shouldn't have bought her that drink, felt like a chump, LOL.

I don't mind getting ripped off the first time even if I know I'm getting played because I'm the kind of idiot who only cements lessons after going through personal experiences or seeing it happen to someone else, even if I'm warned beforehand. I can be pretty stubborn about stupid shit. So since I've arrived to Colombia I've still walked into mistakes even after reading through the accumulated wisdom of the board members here.

Anyways, about 10 minutes later, the next one comes to sit by me. Think it was Diana. Not bad, and her breasts were spilling out of her shirt. Make some small talk, kept taking glances down her shirt while we were chatting. It's some weird psychological shit but it's ten times hotter when a girl's outfit teases you by only revealing the right amount, compared to being in the bed room and everything is revealed. Anyways, she asks for 300 k, I pay my tab, and we go into the bedroom. It's a good thing too, because apparently I didn't have any more cash on me. My bill is around 450 for two beers, the lady drink and a table and the girl. I only had about 500 on me total. Not sure what happened, thought I pulled 750 when I left the hotel, but I've been pretty careless with the specifics of my finances because I'm still tracking the average for my entire budget of the trip. Anyways, I bust after two minutes and immediately leave to the hotel and pass out.

Also, I'll be in Medellin for the next two weeks. I have roughly 150 FB contacts lined up, so I'll be good if I want to stay in, but it's my first time in my city and I'd like to explore the options outside as well. If any mongers here are interested in going out, DM me.

I hadn't seen this mentioned before, but my first look of Medellin was one of legitimate awe. Going through that long and claustrophobic tunnel and opening into this gorgeous city nestled in these misty mountains was absolutely fucking stunning. Reminded me of the opening scene to Spirited Away where the main character goes through that tunnel and gets transported into this alternate universe. Cool as all hell.

[QUOTE=Vewdew;2605035]I don't get it, why are some guys telling girls that you x amount + propina?

I give a propina if I really like her performance, I never tell them X and propina before sex, only how much they get for sex.[/QUOTE]And what's worse is the dumbasses who overpay, then give a propina + taxi, after horrible service.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2607381]If you add OM Spa on WhatsApp they post which girls are working each day and occasionally post specials. [/QUOTE]I'm a Whatsapp newbie. By adding OM Spa on Whatsapp, what do you mean? Just send them a message? Or is there some sort of group functionality where I can join an OM Spa group?

Thanks!

Hi,

I like to tell my online experience with Medellin girls.

Now I'm Colombia for a work and will free in some days. I will get 20 free days. Usually I like to talk to some girls before to meet the.

I like to be for one week with a girl and to get a girlfriend experience. For this reason I rent an apartment.

So I talked to around 30 girls in Medellin on Badoo and Tagged. I'm old even youthful looking.

All the girls like to meet me even even those of 18-19 years old.

So I started to delve into the subject with two girls, asking what they expected of me if they come to my apartment for full time, for a week. As I understood they needed money for they studies, I told them that I would give 130 K pesos (around 30 euros) per day, but they did not accept because it is a ridiculous price. I told them that they could stay with me for 20 days and they would have earned around 600 euros. But they did not accept.

But what kind of girls are those from Medellin? At this point I don't even want to go to Medellin anymore and I would like to change city.

Do you know that the same story is repeated in Cali as in Medellin? In other words: fucking with regular girls or students in Cali is it cheaper than Medellin or is it the same thing?

Thanks to clear my ideas.

[QUOTE=GreenMonkey;2607746]I'm a Whatsapp newbie. By adding OM Spa on Whatsapp, what do you mean? Just send them a message? Or is there some sort of group functionality where I can join an OM Spa group?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Add their number to your contact list and send a message asking about rates or their hours. That way you'll see whenever they update their status.

[QUOTE=LoisSanborn;2607708]I hadn't seen this mentioned before, but my first look of Medellin was one of legitimate awe. Going through that long and claustrophobic tunnel and opening into this gorgeous city nestled in these misty mountains was absolutely fucking stunning. Reminded me of the opening scene to Spirited Away where the main character goes through that tunnel and gets transported into this alternate universe. Cool as all hell.[/QUOTE]You're right, what's neat is how green and luscious everything is when flying in to the airport, the fresh crisp air, and then seeing how spectacular the setting of the City is the valley. Ride the Metrocable up to Park Avi if you get a chance.

Last night I was at the MBF on the edge of Parque Lleras. It was raining and had been for some time. There was a street walker standing in the MBF to get out of the rain. She was not cute, but the group of us felt sorry for her and invited her to our table. At the restaurant, she was funny and nice while having drinks. It was getting late and I was preparing to leave. I really didn't want her, but out of compassion I offered to take her to my apartment in Laureles and let her earn a little money. After leaving the restaurant, I knew things were probably going to be bad. At the apartment, I told her I didn't want sex but I would give her 100 mil to go home. She agreed. She said she lived in Bello. I went to my bedroom to get some money. While I was in there, she managed to pick up a kid's tablet, some powdered drink mix from the kitchen, and my eyeglasses. I should have known something was wrong because she was in a hurry to leave, even though it was raining. Her name on Facebook is Sharon Michell Munoz. Here at a couple of her pictures. She has "HELEN" tattooed vertically behind her left ear. I doubt many of you would look twice at her because she is almost ugly, but you have been warned.

[QUOTE=GreenMonkey;2607746]I'm a Whatsapp newbie. By adding OM Spa on Whatsapp, what do you mean? Just send them a message? Or is there some sort of group functionality where I can join an OM Spa group?[/QUOTE]Just by you adding them has no effect unless they save you into their contacts. The best way is to ask them to add you to their contact when you are on site visiting. Usually that is how you get the status update.

1. Laura Bastamante.

My ideal body, great face and its even better in person. Real cool person to chat with in English. Has some tours she does apparently and they seem good. She was not as high energy as I'd thought she'd be but she's still being put in the weekly to biweekly rotation. 250 k without taxi, 2 hours oral natural.

2. Meet Leidy of Facebook, she's thick but great energy and was able to cum twice with her. Again she's thick with magnificent tits and piercing eyes. Will put her in the rotation and she's also hooking me up with her friends. She's around 200 k for 2 hours mas taxi and 250 k mas taxi for BBFS if you're interested. Her friend's prices are 250 k for 2 hours mas taxi and 350 k mas taxi for BBFS if you're interested.

3. I got some other FB girls lined up and ready to go, we'll post once it happens and one Tinder girl who's new to the game.

4. Went to Fantasias Energy, great lineup and many girls with a great attitude, was hard to pick. Choose a pretty cutie, she's sensual but still working on her skills. Was difficult finishing with her and getting started, she is sexy so I offered to meet her after. We met 10 min after I left the spa got dinner and went to my place, it was slightly better at my place but not the best and we're going to finish the remaining two hours on Saturday. She is sexy but Saturday will be the last chance if it doesn't go well enough, I'm here to bust nuts.

Two and half years ago on my first visit to Medellin I had this street girl at Botero 4 times because she was super sweet. Well, I am not the only one. Last year I visited Carrera 70 in Laureles for two weeks. During that time I saw her twice with her boyfriend. One time they were on a double date and the next a triple date or something to that affect. Well, I just saw her and the same guy (pretty sure) walking through Botero. This time she saw me and you could tell she actually remembered me. I thought that was cool. I know she did not look at me because she saw some handsome guy. Unlike some of you I am in touch with reality.

He looks about 50 and she is around 25. It was nice to see because he obviously loves her to take her out to wine and dine her in Laureles. Takes her out with other couples (his age group of friends). He does not need to have his arm around her waist or shoulder or need to hold hands when walking through Botero. They are past that stage in the relationship. Maybe they are married now. Just happy to see that and hope she is happy.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2605855]It depends on how you make the comparison. If you compare casa, for example, Energy in Laureles to typical Clinicas in Sao Paulo. The price is about the same, some are higher, some are lower. The difference being Clinica is cleaner in that you always get a clean towel, clean bed sheet, Listerine in the room, have not had a not working shower yet. GFE is the default. So I will say Sao Paulo is a far better value at this price range.

Sao Paulo has night clubs that can get expensive but again GFE is the default, you can just make out on the sofa for hours before going to the room which I did do in La Isla sometimes too but never to the extend that I can do in Sao Paulo clubs. There is no strippers asking for tips and the working girls rarely ask for drink, tip or upsell, at least I have not encountered one yet. LOL. If you like La Isla, then you will like clubs here. La Isla only has one bar. The clubs in Sao Paulo can have more than one bar, restaurant, pool table, cafe.

The comparison of metro in the two cites is similar. Medellin is cheaper but Sao Paulo is far better because it has more lines, longer distance, A/C, more signs and better, more handicap friendly, restrooms, shops and free condoms.[/QUOTE]Thank for the intel. Definitely putting Brazil on my bucket list!

[QUOTE=Tasss;2606690]I friended Laura and unfriended her immediately after seeing her pictures. Each to their own but IMO she's 5/10 in terms of looks at best.[/QUOTE]Oh damn. Thought she would be hot. I normally don't pay for a 5 unless I need to bust a nut really bad.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2606828]I studied economics at univ many years ago. It was only years later, when I studied independently out of personal interest, that it was the biggest waste of time I ever made. The worst course I could have taken. Maybe it should rank even lower than a theology course. They claim it is BSc, but the reality it is BA. Or BS! Haha.

What none of you have mentioned regards street prices is that they are limited by the price of the casas. What would the point be of taken a street girl if you could get an equal girl in a better room, with less risk and with more convenience for the same price?

My experience is that they still ask 30 k on the street. Maybe I am just better looking than you folks. Haha.[/QUOTE]I agree, I've taken economics in college as well. If it worked, there would be tons of rich economists and as what I've seen on CNBC, most of them are dead wrong.

[QUOTE=Combo;2606877]So Paulo is better for pure mongering, the best city in the world for our hobby IMO. Rio is a more fun city and has a very good mongering scene, though not what it used to be.[/QUOTE]Do the girls in Sao Paolo speak more English than Medellin? Kinda sucks having to use google translate.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2607289]Forgot to mention that there were 6 masseuses working at OM Spa and that the lineup at Zandalay was average (obviously, if the one I picked was just ok).

LuckyNuts, CoinSlot was permanently 86'd after biting the hand that fed her.

Here's some pics from the past month (missing a couple of my favorites but I'll keep them a secret).[/QUOTE]Wow man. Those chicas are my type, how much do they go for?

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2607465]Anyone have ever tried Swingers club in Medellin and I know that there are few of them. One of my girl in Medellin has agreed to take me to one of the swingers club during my November visit.[/QUOTE]I think someone wrote a trip report on a swinger club recently.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2602917]I can't disagree with almost any of this. I do have one difference of opinion. While many chicas I have seen are all about the money, I have had some who are not. Obviously they are non-pros. Some of them just like to be treated nicely and with respect, the opposite of what Colombian ghetto rats do. That said, "treated nicely" might mean spending a little money on some food or drinks. Or it might not. I really feel like more than a few Colombianas has daddy issues or have other mental issues related to sexual abuse. And they seem to gravitate a guy who is nice to them and shows respect to them. I have had more than a few girls who were with me and never asked for money and it was clear they were not looking for money (so I didn't pay them). They were happy with respectful treatment and a few compliments (which I only give as deserved. Pretty much every chica has something you can compliment honestly). I am 56. I am average in appearance. Yet I have had some great experiences with non-pros. I always ask myself why. Do they like being treated like a lady? Do they like the sincere attention? Do they have a need to be with someone they feel safe with? Do they like to be able to tell their friends they have a gringo friend? Maybe they like the way I satisfy them with oral sex and other things that focus the attention on them and not on me getting off. I'm not saying money is not a primary motivation for most (either money right away or money going forward), but I think there are some exceptions. But you often have to work to find them.[/QUOTE]Woman like compliments and they adore when respected as a lady. You are a true gentleman my friend.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2567770]Because I know a stunning chica would attract you and not deter you, jaja.

Probably the most unnecessary, self-defeating characteristic a mongerer can carry with him to Medellin from the states is Fear of Failure. There is simply no reason to angst over being rejected by chicas in Colombia. Nobody bats a thousand, but the success rate is so high even with regular gorgeous non-prepago girls that all you need is some short term memory loss and move on to the next girl. Your efforts will be rewarded by the most gorgeous girls you can imagine spreading their legs, sticking their asses in the air, and planting their lips wherever you want.

Some random gratuitous fotos of one of my steady prepagos, Purrfekt Piel, petite, no tats, no implants, no piercings, no babies, 23 years old, student, has a job, fucks like a bunny rabbit. Whassaps me four times a week asking when will me and my wallet be returning to MDE, jajajaja.[/QUOTE]Damn her body is wonderland!

Hey guys I'm heading back to Medellin in a month. I've haven't been since 2018 but I also lost all my contacts for easy mongering delivered to your door. I used to have a former working girl who would send me 10-20 girls available through whatsapp for the day, but sadly she's out of the biz.

Can anyone recommend me someone similar?

Feel like this has been answered before, but I forget if so. My friend pulled a chick from Gusto who agreed to 300 k at the club but changed her tune to 300 USD at the hotel. Obviously, he kicked her ass to the curb. But at this point it's already 4 am. Any other options available? Just curious for future reference. For me, my main focus is probably going to be earlier hour casas like new life, sandals, energa, loutron, etc and prebooked appts with fb chicas. I am interested in knowing what my options will be so I won't be left holding my dick como mi amigo.

Which is to say, another fantastic day. Technically, 4 girls in a day would be my average which would make this an above average day, jeje.

The blond with the pink belly button is the new "umbrella" girl. I literally just walked up to her at random to ask where I could buy an umbrella that she was standing under and she instantly shared it with me. Nice. Well, if your "random" sample was defined as all girls with an umbrella, jeje.

While I was talking and walking to the store with her I began to notice how cute and sweet and pretty her face was and 30 minutes later we were in a hotel fucking and the word "no" was not in her vocabulary. She was awesome and I've got her phone number. I gave her less than $15 USD and she was grateful for it. Obviously, she was a puta, or was she?

I just switched hotels in to a nicer luxury setting and a fancy room always energizes the girls a bit. On Saturday I'm scheduled to fuck the hotel manager from my last Hotel. For one thing, I could not fuck her in her own hotel, there are always cameras everywhere and they get fired for that. Another thing, she got very curious about seeing all the girls come and go to my room and now she wants some.

She used to ring up my tab for guest fees when I would pay my account every 4 or 5 days so she knew exactly what was going on. To say it is a different culture here would be a vast understatement. She is definitely never done pay-for-play before it's obvious by her questions and her initial hesitancy. I was joking and flirting with her a lot and she said she would never fuck in her life.

Then she got fired. Basically her boss try to f* her and she would not put out. Slimy bastard. Then her moto broke down and she had to borrow money to fix it. Reality Bites. I made her a sweet little Finjancial offer. I split the deal into two encounters and told her we would not fuck the first time and only on the second time if she wanted to. She flat-out refused me at first. Then she called back and told me, "This is all new to me what am I supposed to do next?" JajaJAjaja. I have heard the, "I have never done this before" line many times but in her case it happens to be true. It's obvious. She is the same girl whose apartment I went to last week and met her mom and her sister and they dyed my hair.

If she turns out to be a keeper I will work her price down to fair market value so she's in line with everybody else.

More to come on that. She picked me up on her Moto and I thought Catgirl was a good motorcyclist but this girl was twice as aggressive. She went for every opening but I still felt safe. Definitely more skillful then I am on these machines, I'm still rusty.

Catgirl insists on keeping the Moto that I bought her even though I offered to trade it in for something smaller. It's a big machine for her 4 foot 11, eighty-eight pound frame. Her arms and shoulders have gotten quite muscular from wrestling with it but she says she loves it.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2607470]3rd foto, mango juice in one hand, pizza in the other, cell phone in lap, and obviously in bed. 2nd foto best Mexican food I've ever eaten, I want by it every morning I will get the name and address if you want it.

Running two hotel rooms tonight, 10 minute walk apart. Other random fotos from the last 48 hours. Too busy fucking to post. Planning my exit strategy for back to the United States.[/QUOTE]I've been noticing on ISG in recent times the proliferation of dark skinned hookers in Medellin. I remember when I first visited Medellin in the early 2000's there were only white hookers. Things seemed to have revolved 180 degrees. Where the white hookers at?

That makes three times in just under a year I've had cash stolen out of my hotel room. I believe all by maids, this time for sure.

The irony was I was just getting ready to post about how good the field testing has been on hiding my cash in the panito bags like I posted before. Especially when you put a dry and slightly dirty panito on top of the money the girls open the bag look inside touch it, make a facial expression of rejection and then put it back down. I've had at least 20 girls do it and they never once suspected that they were holding a big wad of cash in their hands.

I would add that if your using this travel hack then you are holding too much money in your room to begin with, but for reasons that I will not go into here, sometimes that becomes necessary for me.

The reason it didn't work this time was because I was a dumb-fuck and I told the two maids where my money was hidden. I'd been in the hotel for about a month and thought I really bonded with the maids. We were flirting a lot and hugging and kisses on the cheeks. Two days after I showed them the panito bag with the money, it was gone.

My thought at the time was that I trusted them and it was not a lot of cash in there and I was afraid they would think it was empty and throw it out.

I even know which maid did it because as soon as I called her back to the room before I could even say one word she started crying tears down her face. I know she feels guilty and I don't think it was her idea I think she told someone about it and they put her up to it but no matter.

The manager wanted to file a police report, but I didn't feel like spending the time looking at camera footage and filling out Spanish forms so I blew it off.

I still believe the concept is practically bulletproof, unless you do something stupid like I did and show them exactly where the money is hidden, jajajaja. Keep On Keepin' On!

[QUOTE=LoisSanborn;2607702]My bill is around 450 for two beers, the lady drink and a table and the girl. I only had about 500 on me total. Not sure what happened, thought I pulled 750 when I left the hotel, but I've been pretty careless with the specifics of my finances[/QUOTE]Can I go on a date with you? Hehe.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2607756]Hi,

I like to tell my online experience with Medellin girls.

Now I'm Colombia for a work and will free in some days. I will get 20 free days. Usually I like to talk to some girls before to meet the.

I like to be for one week with a girl and to get a girlfriend experience. For this reason I rent an apartment.

So I talked to around 30 girls in Medellin on Badoo and Tagged. I'm old even youthful looking.

All the girls like to meet me even even those of 18-19 years old.

So I started to delve into the subject with two girls, asking what they expected of me if they come to my apartment for full time, for a week. As I understood they needed money for they studies, I told them that I would give 130 K pesos (around 30 euros) per day, but they did not accept because it is a ridiculous price. I told them that they could stay with me for 20 days and they would have earned around 600 euros. But they did not accept..[/QUOTE]Sounds like you're trying to sell bacon at a Synagogue.

Most of the girls who work online in Colombia expect to receive 100-200 k for an hour. It doesn't matter how many days you are telling them you want them to stay, they have no guarantee that you'll keep them for 20 days. They have no idea if they want to be around you for 20 days. What matters to them is you're expecting them to commit 24 hours for 1 hour of pay.

What's in it for them? Many of them have children to care for, or elderly family members who they support. They have dogs and cats and other obligations. How are they supposed to handle those obligations if they are stuck with you for 20 days?

Instead of thinking the fault lies with the Colombian women, maybe you should get a better idea of the local situation.

If a girl normally makes 150 k for a date, and it takes up 3 hours with travel time and preparation, she can, in a good week make 1.5 million pesos or more, with only 30 hours of her time. That leaves 138 hours to do what she wants, be with who she wants and to live her life. You're offering her 910 k and want to monopolize all her time. You've made no allowance for her to feed her dogs and children, to care for her grandmother, or spend any time with the people she cares about. And you expect her to kiss your feet for offering her such a deal?

All of that ignores the fact that you're both unknown to each other. You have no idea if you're in any way compatible, you have no idea if she's a thief, or if she has bad personal hygiene.

If you want to have a girlfriend in Colombia, spend your free time, while you're working in Colombia meeting women, talking to them, getting to know them and then find one who wants to be your girlfriend. You'll end up with someone who you are compatible with, someone who wants to be with you and you won't need to insult her by offering her a ridiculously low price for her time.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2607940]I'Where the white hookers at?[/QUOTE]Argentina & Europe! Pollo negro is out!

Just a little update.

Headed to Plaza Botero yesterday, was going to go early but was talking to my girl in Bogota for a few hours. Got there around 2 and pickings were slim, walked around and checked out Radul<sp and sat on a bench people watching for a while. Around 4 went for another loop around the church, almost pulled an older gal that looked like would be fun but kept going. Got back to "ground zero" and saw a girl with big tits that I saw before and started chatting in my broken spanish. 30 K for 30 min, 7 k for the room and off we went. Cuddles, CBJ, 2 positions and I filled the condom. She washed and left, I locked the door, cleaned up and returned to the street. Headed back to La 70 on the metro and got some beers and chicken and back to the hotel.

Today I was talking to a FB girl and decided to try an incall to my hotel, she arrives in 3 hours, after work, 150 K plus taxi 2 ways or 200 k and she pays all transport, we will see how it goes and hopefully I can report success tomorrow. Being a self proclaimed "cheapie charlie" I had to think hard about spending 150 k, LOL.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2607756]Hi,

I like to tell my online experience with Medellin girls.

Now I'm Colombia for a work and will free in some days. I will get 20 free days. Usually I like to talk to some girls before to meet the.

I like to be for one week with a girl and to get a girlfriend experience. For this reason I rent an apartment.

So I talked to around 30 girls in Medellin on Badoo and Tagged. I'm old even youthful looking.

All the girls like to meet me even even those of 18-19 years old.

So I started to delve into the subject with two girls, asking what they expected of me if they come to my apartment for full time, for a week. As I understood they needed money for they studies, I told them that I would give 130 K pesos (around 30 euros) per day, but they did not accept because it is a ridiculous price. I told them that they could stay with me for 20 days and they would have earned around 600 euros. But they did not accept.

But what kind of girls are those from Medellin? At this point I don't even want to go to Medellin anymore and I would like to change city.

Do you know that the same story is repeated in Cali as in Medellin? In other words: fucking with regular girls or students in Cali is it cheaper than Medellin or is it the same thing?

Thanks to clear my ideas.[/QUOTE]They didn't accept because it's a shit offer. Some of them get 250 k / hour, 400-500 k for all nighters ( 6-8 hours), and you are offering 130 k for 24 hours? You can probably get some Centro chicks at those rock bottom prices, not online.

The ones in Cali are probably more expensive.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2607420]Hmmmh. I'll give you the thrill of the edginess of El Centro, there is smthg to that. Yep, I guess I got to think out of my own box to see some of the attractions of others.[/QUOTE]I thought of another advanatge of El Centro street life over casas. If you have a trans fetish! Don't laugh, it's true! I am not a transphobe, but it seems the casas are. It is impossible to FK a trans in a casa. Or be fkd by one (at least to my knowledge).

Yes. Thinking outside the box.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2607945]That makes three times in just under a year I've had cash stolen out of my hotel room. I believe all by maids, this time for sure.

The irony was I was just getting ready to post about how good the field testing has been on hiding my cash in the panito bags like I posted before. Especially when you put a dry and slightly dirty panito on top of the money the girls open the bag look inside touch it, make a facial expression of rejection and then put it back down. I've had at least 20 girls do it and they never once suspected that they were holding a big wad of cash in their hands.

I would add that if your using this travel hack then you are holding too much money in your room to begin with, but for reasons that I will not go into here, sometimes that becomes necessary for me.

The reason it didn't work this time was because I was a dumb-fuck and I told the two maids where my money was hidden. I'd been in the hotel for about a month and thought I really bonded with the maids. We were flirting a lot and hugging and kisses on the cheeks. Two days after I showed them the panito bag with the money, it was gone.[/QUOTE]Have you heard about my "Slapper" service? I came up with the idea several years ago. Celebrities and politicians seem to be unable to avoid saying the wrong thing whenever they step up to a microphone. The problem is, they surround themselves with sycophants who are afraid to disagree with them. The Slapper's job is to knock them in the head before they do something dumb.

As you know, I'm overqualified at being disagreeable.

Any foolproof idea stops being foolproof when more than one person knows about it. Telling the maids just meant you didn't have to wait long to lose money, but it would have happened eventually.

I'm sure there are people here who agreed it was a great hiding place. It's only a matter of time before one of them pulls their money from the baby wipes package in front of a hooker. 2 hours later every working girl in Medellin knows about it.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2607945]That makes three times in just under a year I've had cash stolen out of my hotel room. I believe all by maids, this time for sure.


I would add that if your using this travel hack then you are holding too much money in your room to begin with, but for reasons that I will not go into here, sometimes that becomes necessary for me.
[/QUOTE]If that keeps working for you than right on! I always get an apartment that has a safe but even then not everhting that sticky fingures can latch onto are goint to fit in the safe. Also in an apartment there usually is no cleaning service so in my case it is just the chicas to worry about, I keep the locks on my suit case and stash some stuff in their. Small laptop. Bluetooth speaker, phone charger etc, that way they would have to break the lock (not impossible but it takes effort ir cut it open) but I keep it right out in the open where I can always see it. But in your case you could even put the pequenin container inside the locked suitcase and it might be another layer of protection.

I have been with hookers all over the world, maybe 700 or so. ONE time a gal in Costa Rica stole a pack of cigarettes from the mini bar. That's it. But maids? When I lived in Medellin many years ago, the owner of my apartment (who later killed himself in a Colombian prison after getting caught with under you know what) insisted on providing twice weekly maid service 'to ensure proper maintenance. ' These 'maids' were just hos he knew, and they were constantly stealing my weed (which I would have shared), drinking and watering down my rum (which I would have shared), etc. Although, telling your maid where you hid your money does not seem particularly astute. Maybe back off the pink shit for a while.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2608073]If that keeps working for you than right on! I always get an apartment that has a safe but even then not everhting that sticky fingures can latch onto are goint to fit in the safe. Also in an apartment there usually is no cleaning service so in my case it is just the chicas to worry about, I keep the locks on my suit case and stash some stuff in their. Small laptop. Bluetooth speaker, phone charger etc, that way they would have to break the lock (not impossible but it takes effort ir cut it open) but I keep it right out in the open where I can always see it. But in your case you could even put the pequenin container inside the locked suitcase and it might be another layer of protection.[/QUOTE]I do the same. Lock my valuables in my check-in large suitcase cause I don't trust the chicas or housekeeping.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2608065]I thought of another advanatge of El Centro street life over casas. If you have a trans fetish! Don't laugh, it's true! I am not a transphobe, but it seems the casas are. It is impossible to FK a trans in a casa. Or be fkd by one (at least to my knowledge).

Yes. Thinking outside the box.[/QUOTE]Why stop at just trannies? It's impossible to find an amputee at a casa. Can't find any women over 50 in the casas either.

Hello my Misery Brothers,

That just might be The Winners.

My friends serious Paisa says "Pierre, like a single you really live the life we dream of as ordinary paisas".

Paisa friends in Medellin enjoys life.

I asa a old Grandpa recall my life.

The result is that even among the most. From 1st world, they also early on, I men Barbarella Girls from good functional middle class families does it frequently.

In one way or another.

Hence, looking for se, from 18/21 of age and not in a to clinical when, I hope for example we can join to to help the pregnant girls in El Centro. S people especially arrogant can help people from dying, ohhh, I forgot, you have to protect your self from another never happening invasion, so you can't see the obvious misery.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2608075]I have been with hookers all over the world, maybe 700 or so. ONE time a gal in Costa Rica stole a pack of cigarettes from the mini bar. That's it. But maids? When I lived in Medellin many years ago, the owner of my apartment (who later killed himself in a Colombian prison after getting caught with under you know what) insisted on providing twice weekly maid service 'to ensure proper maintenance. ' These 'maids' were just hos he knew, and they were constantly stealing my weed (which I would have shared), drinking and watering down my rum (which I would have shared), etc. Although, telling your maid where you hid your money does not seem particularly astute. Maybe back off the pink shit for a while.[/QUOTE]Hey guy,

It's humiliating to be robbed.

But you wright write about a hotel owner like he deserved to die, or just was collateral damage.

Hey! We pay for sex!

My Colombian GFs I many picked up from, among other places, Energgy 74, but he'll just. I mean those guys picking up the money, we all need to have a standard.

Yes I have overpaid many of my fellow sisters since I have also been into forced labour.

Two of the, now live in Europe, it was complicated too.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2607756]Hi,

I like to tell my online experience with Medellin girls.

Now I'm Colombia for a work and will free in some days. I will get 20 free days. Usually I like to talk to some girls before to meet the.

I like to be for one week with a girl and to get a girlfriend experience. For this reason I rent an apartment.

So I talked to around 30 girls in Medellin on Badoo and Tagged. I'm old even youthful looking.

All the girls like to meet me even even those of 18-19 years old.

So I started to delve into the subject with two girls, asking what they expected of me if they come to my apartment for full time, for a week. As I understood they needed money for they studies, I told them that I would give 130 K pesos (around 30 euros) per day, but they did not accept because it is a ridiculous price. I told them that they could stay with me for 20 days and they would have earned around 600 euros. But they did not accept.

But what kind of girls are those from Medellin? At this point I don't even want to go to Medellin anymore and I would like to change city.

Do you know that the same story is repeated in Cali as in Medellin? In other words: fucking with regular girls or students in Cali is it cheaper than Medellin or is it the same thing?

Thanks to clear my ideas.[/QUOTE]Why TF would you try to make a long-term deal with girls you've never been with before? You very well might have them over for an hour and decide you don't like them as much as you thought you would. Then you wouldn't want them to stay. And the girls know this. The only way you can reliably predict a girlfriend experience over a week or two is by sampling them for an hour or two. Have a few chicks over to your place fo 150 k or so an hour. When you find one you get along with, ask her to stay a whole day or overnight. If you still get along well, then set up an arrangement for a week or two.

[QUOTE=ManchesterLad1;2607780]1. Laura Bastamante.

My ideal body, great face and its even better in person. Real cool person to chat with in English. Has some tours she does apparently and they seem good. She was not as high energy as I'd thought she'd be but she's still being put in the weekly to biweekly rotation. 250 k without taxi, 2 hours oral natural.

2. Meet Leidy of Facebook, she's thick but great energy and was able to cum twice with her. Again she's thick with magnificent tits and piercing eyes. Will put her in the rotation and she's also hooking me up with her friends. She's around 200 k for 2 hours mas taxi and 250 k mas taxi for BBFS if you're interested. Her friend's prices are 250 k for 2 hours mas taxi and 350 k mas taxi for BBFS if you're interested.

3. I got some other FB girls lined up and ready to go, we'll post once it happens and one Tinder girl who's new to the game.

4. Went to Fantasias Energy, great lineup and many girls with a great attitude, was hard to pick. Choose a pretty cutie, she's sensual but still working on her skills. Was difficult finishing with her and getting started, she is sexy so I offered to meet her after. We met 10 min after I left the spa got dinner and went to my place, it was slightly better at my place but not the best and we're going to finish the remaining two hours on Saturday. She is sexy but Saturday will be the last chance if it doesn't go well enough, I'm here to bust nuts.[/QUOTE]I said this other day about Laura. Don't go off her pics, much better in person. I saw her 4 times in my 10 day trip. I like her body and she is fun to hang out with. What was the Leidy lady last name? Facebook is better service.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2608134]I said this other day about Laura. Don't go off her pics, much better in person. I saw her 4 times in my 10 day trip. I like her body and she is fun to hang out with. What was the Leidy lady last name? Facebook is better service.[/QUOTE]Hey guys,

Is this the same Laura with hair lip, just trying to make sure same Girl, thanks guys!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2607983]Sounds like you're trying to sell bacon at a Synagogue.[/QUOTE]As soon as I read your message I agreed with you but things are not going as you say. I found a girl from Armenia who works on webcam. She is a little shy and very very beautiful girl. I don't think she has sex as often as she does. She told me that she worked with a computer and earned little money, but now that she is broken she is in trouble. So there are also NON pro girls who have needs and who don't live in big cities and can earn what they want.

She accepted my offer and she comes to Cali. Our first meeting will be in a restaurant to get to know each other better before going to my apartment.

What can I risk at this point? I can risk sending it back to Armenia two hours' drive from Cali.

Talking to her, she doesn't seem aggressive and attached to money like the girls of Medellin.

A friend on the forum told me why not try a girl first and then make a deal for 10 days? I reply that it is difficult, very difficult for a girl to be with you for 10 days if she is not a pro. I repeat: you like the pros but I don't like them.

I will be in Cali at the end of the month, I don't know what's going to happen.

I will tell you.

[QUOTE=Luminus;2608052]Just a little update.

Headed to Plaza Botero yesterday, was going to go early but was talking to my girl in Bogota for a few hours. Got there around 2 and pickings were slim, walked around and checked out Radul<sp and sat on a bench people watching for a while. Around 4 went for another loop around the church, almost pulled an older gal that looked like would be fun but kept going. Got back to "ground zero" and saw a girl with big tits that I saw before and started chatting in my broken spanish. 30 K for 30 min, 7 k for the room and off we went. Cuddles, CBJ, 2 positions and I filled the condom. She washed and left, I locked the door, cleaned up and returned to the street. Headed back to La 70 on the metro and got some beers and chicken and back to the hotel.

Today I was talking to a FB girl and decided to try an incall to my hotel, she arrives in 3 hours, after work, 150 K plus taxi 2 ways or 200 k and she pays all transport, we will see how it goes and hopefully I can report success tomorrow. Being a self proclaimed "cheapie charlie" I had to think hard about spending 150 k, LOL.[/QUOTE]Its only $40 US dollars not that bad.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2607959]Can I go on a date with you? Hehe.[/QUOTE]Eheheh big spender and careless with his money.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2607959]Can I go on a date with you? Hehe.[/QUOTE]Eheheh big spender and careless with his money.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2607983].

If a girl normally makes 150 k for a date, and it takes up 3 hours with travel time and preparation, she can, in a good week make 1.5 million pesos or more, with only 30 hours of her time. That leaves 138 hours to do what she wants, be with who she wants and to live her life. You're offering her 910 k and want to monopolize all her time. You've made no allowance for her to feed her dogs and children, to care for her grandmother, or spend any time with the people she cares about. And you expect her to kiss your feet for offering her such a deal?

All of that ignores the fact that you're both unknown to each other. You have no idea if you're in any way compatible, you have no idea if she's a thief, or if she has bad personal hygiene.

If you want to have a girlfriend in Colombia, spend your free time, while you're working in Colombia meeting women, talking to them, getting to know them and then find one who wants to be your girlfriend. You'll end up with someone who you are compatible with, someone who wants to be with you and you won't need to insult her by offering her a ridiculously low price for her time.[/QUOTE]Well said, and very insightful into how these girls think. I myself made the error of thinking multiply the cita rate by number of days and thought that a fair offer. However there is opportunity cost, inconvenience and family disruption, being away from their home etc to consider. So to get past all that the offer needs to be more enticing. Of course if they are into you, the sex and the lifestyle then you can give them less and they maybe Ok with it. However none of the seasoned prepagos will go for that rate. In their ideal world they come, fuck you for an hour, 1-2 pops and collect their 150-200 mil and be gone, they will gladly go that many times in a week if you want.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2607814]Do the girls in Sao Paolo speak more English than Medellin?... [/QUOTE]I think not. I have met four that speak English, two are fluent. All are from high price range. Unlike some of the girls I met at Medellin clubs who would make an effort using translator from their phone, the Brazilian I have met don't.

As much as I love my Paisas, they are indeed unique compare to most other girls in Colombia, based on my experiences. Paisas (particularly from the city) do not have great reputations among women from other parts of Colombia. My ex-wife and daughter, both rollas, have no use for paisa woman. It is not a coincidence that there is so much prostitution in MDE (by locals). The chicas are definitely money-oriented, but they are often beautiful and sexy too.

I would love to meet some hotties from Armenia, Bucaramanga, etc. , but it's not nearly as easy as MDE. So I stick to what I know best. Good luck with her and let us know.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2608144]

Talking to her, she doesn't seem aggressive and attached to money like the girls of Medellin.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2608304]As much as I love my Paisas, they are indeed unique compare to most other girls in Colombia, based on my experiences. Paisas (particularly from the city) do not have great reputations among women from other parts of Colombia. My ex-wife and daughter, both rollas, have no use for paisa woman. It is not a coincidence that there is so much prostitution in MDE (by locals). The chicas are definitely money-oriented, but they are often beautiful and sexy too.

I would love to meet some hotties from Armenia, Bucaramanga, etc. , but it's not nearly as easy as MDE.[/QUOTE]But people from Armenia are Paisa too. You lost me with that one. I have met plenty of chicks from Armenia and B'manga. What is so hard about it?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2607892]Which is to say, another fantastic day. Technically, 4 girls in a day would be my average which would make this an above average day, jeje.

The blond with the pink belly button is the new "umbrella" girl. I literally just walked up to her at random to ask where I could buy an umbrella that she was standing under and she instantly shared it with me. Nice. Well, if your "random" sample was defined as all girls with an umbrella, jeje.

While I was talking and walking to the store with her I began to notice how cute and sweet and pretty her face was and 30 minutes later we were in a hotel fucking and the word "no" was not in her vocabulary. She was awesome and I've got her phone number. I gave her less than $15 USD and she was grateful for it. Obviously, she was a puta, or was she?[/QUOTE]I 'get it' as I have lived solo in Medellin for 5 years now and regularly have 3 chicas a day, every day as much as my dick can stand. Just the way it is here in Medolandia, hehehe.

Yesterday had 3 different, and all 3 were paisas, all 3 were very good and one was spectacular, just the luck of the draw as normally you have a dud but damn all good.

Just returned my 9 day live-in to her amigas hotel 2 days back, she is 22 and so damn sexy, slender, tall, not a paisa and claims she has never sold her body before, yea right but fully admits that she was a webcam model for 3 years which hold much truth as she knows how to move her slender body and is 10000% comfortable being naked and BTW she is very flexible and does all kinds of sexy stunts with her legs.

And she is the first chica that wanted, used, demanded that I employ all 5 of my dildos and vibrators on her at THE SAME TIME, too bad there was not another set of hands in bed with us, hehehehe and this reminds me that I need to change out the batteries.

At the end of the day we are all fucking the same chicas. Sharing is indeed caring! So enjoy everyone.

So today will be another day and new encounters. I have so many lighting up my phone non-stop that sometimes I just need to shut my cell phone down so I can have a rest for a few days.

Ah the problems we have. Keep up the batting averages per day and I promise to do my part, hehehehehe.

The Tall Man.

I want to ask for advice about using the Airport Bus from Rio Negro to Medellin.

I want to use the Bus when I arrive in late October.

I will arrive at about 8 pm in MDE, so when I take the bus I will be at San Diego Mall at about 9 pm (and then need to take a taxi from there to my Hotel in Poblado.

Is this doable and safe to go out from the Bus at this time and at this place with my Luggage and take a taxi from there? Are there Taxis already waiting?

[QUOTE=RacShack;2608142]Hey guys,

Is this the same Laura with hair lip, just trying to make sure same Girl, thanks guys![/QUOTE]No, Laura Bustamante does NOT have a hair lip.

[QUOTE=Vewdew;2608153]Eheheh big spender and careless with his money.[/QUOTE]Damn, I mean, I'm not here to get soaked, but 50 dollar a day variance in my budget isn't going to kill me. I just follow the "If it fits your macros" approach. My spend is still in line with my total budget allocated for this trip. If I were living here long term, I'd micromanage my money. But I'm on vacation. My limited time is my priority here. There's no point in me wasting it scrutinizing the minutiae of my financial transactions to save a grand over the course of a month. Now if I woke up and found out I'd spend 5 k over the course of a week, I'd obviously recalibrate. But as is, I'm just trying to enjoy my vacation and not get ripped off or robbed.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2608347]I want to ask for advice about using the Airport Bus from Rio Negro to Medellin.

I will arrive at about 8 pm in MDE, so when I take the bus I will be at San Diego Mall at about 9 pm (and then need to take a taxi from there to my Hotel in Poblado.[/QUOTE]Taxis will be at San Diego waiting for people that get off the bus.

I was watching this video of a youtuber walking around El Centro and around 7:05 there is some footage of the infamous Carrera 53 Calle 52 intersection from a great vantage point which I'm am deducing is the Grill Venecia (see attached photo).

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0c_qn_wxIU&list=PL3qIKKFJmVmS0clk_5FngjMyq8escpYVz&index=4[/URL]

Anyone ever eat here before- is it as promising as it looks as an observation deck of the action?

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2608395]I was watching this video of a youtuber walking around El Centro and around 7:05 there is some footage of the infamous Carrera 53 Calle 52 intersection from a great vantage point which I'm am deducing is the Grill Venecia (see attached photo).

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0c_qn_wxIU&list=PL3qIKKFJmVmS0clk_5FngjMyq8escpYVz&index=4[/URL]

Anyone ever eat here before- is it as promising as it looks as an observation deck of the action?[/QUOTE]Next to it or maybe the same location on the second floor is a short time hotel with the same name. The outside did not look like the picture the last time I was there. LoveitHere probably could tell you more.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2608144]I will be in Cali at the end of the month, I don't know what's going to happen.

I will tell you.[/QUOTE]I know what will happen, but I don't want to spoil the surprise.

[QUOTE=LoisSanborn;2608360]Damn, I mean, I'm not here to get soaked, but 50 dollar a day variance in my budget isn't going to kill me. I just follow the "If it fits your macros" approach. My spend is still in line with my total budget allocated for this trip. If I were living here long term, I'd micromanage my money. But I'm on vacation. My limited time is my priority here. There's no point in me wasting it scrutinizing the minutiae of my financial transactions to save a grand over the course of a month. Now if I woke up and found out I'd spend 5 k over the course of a week, I'd obviously recalibrate. But as is, I'm just trying to enjoy my vacation and not get ripped off or robbed.[/QUOTE]Dude for whatever reasons, that logic does not apply so well in Colombia and a lot of people learn it the hard way. Ever heard "no dar pappaya". Well wearing the papaya I. E. Gold chains and Rolex watches and designer clothes etc is only one way. Spending aggressively is also giving Papayya, word gets around pretty quickly and you make yourself a target unwittingly. Many of us have the coin to do what you are doing, but still stick with the program because it keeps you safe. But hey it's your vacation and your money, so knock yourself out.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2608285]I think not. I have met four that speak English, two are fluent. All are from high price range. Unlike some of the girls I met at Medellin clubs who would make an effort using translator from their phone, the Brazilian I have met don't.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I have not found many girls who spoke decent English in either Medellin or Sao Paulo / Rio, except maybe some of the servers at expensive restaurants. But those are not easy to pick up and I have never tried to.

My Portuguese is not that good, so I tend to communicate mostly in Spanish when I am in Brazil. The girls don't seem to have a problem understanding what I am saying. However, they invariably respond in Portuguese, which I understand if spoken slowly.

A couple of face-fucking fotos of Soft Swirl. She likes it rough, I would never intentionally leave a mark but she was an hour late for our tryst at the Love Motel in Bello and I made her pay a price but don't worry she loved it. She's up against the headboard in the one photo but I think I found a soft spot in my heart and put a pillow behind her head jajaja.

Most of the rest of the photos are Super Groovy and she is just that, depends on your personal taste but I don't think the female form gets much better than that. Plus she is a top performer except she is not into anal which is fine by me but she'll bend the rules for me, as she put it, "Even if I don't get pleasure from it, I will do it because I know you like it. "Got to love that attitude.

There is sort of an optical illusion photo of of downtown Medellin from near Ground Zero that you don't see everyday, that's not two separate photo spliced together, that's just the angle and the setup my eye caught.

[QUOTE=LoisSanborn;2608360]Damn, I mean, I'm not here to get soaked, but 50 dollar a day variance in my budget isn't going to kill me. I just follow the "If it fits your macros" approach. My spend is still in line with my total budget allocated for this trip. If I were living here long term, I'd micromanage my money. But I'm on vacation. My limited time is my priority here. There's no point in me wasting it scrutinizing the minutiae of my financial transactions to save a grand over the course of a month. Now if I woke up and found out I'd spend 5 k over the course of a week, I'd obviously recalibrate. But as is, I'm just trying to enjoy my vacation and not get ripped off or robbed.[/QUOTE]You're on vacation, time money. It's your money, spend it however you want it.

Technically true. But when one uses the word Paisa, even among the many, many Colombians I know, it is equate to a chica from Medellin. So let me re-phrase if it makes all happy "a Medellin Paisa. " I don't believe I said it was hard to meet any chica in Colombia. Rather, I was responding to the IPs statement that he thought chicas from Medellin were more about the money. And I personally find it so easy to meet them given their nature. Obviously one could go to another city and meet women. But I would not go to most other cities in Colombia for P4P alone.

Years ago when marriage agencies were strong in Colombia, I asked a gringo I met (who used one and married a girl from the agency) why there were agencies in so may cities, but not in Medellin. And the response was that agencies had tried, but there were not enough sincere girls signing up. Most were just looking for money. Whether for sex or for nothing. I stand by my statement that Medellin Paisas are a different breed of woman.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2608313]But people from Armenia are Paisa too. You lost me with that one. I have met plenty of chicks from Armenia and B'manga. What is so hard about it?[/QUOTE]

Hi everyone,

About to make my first trip to Medellin in November and trying to do a lot of research, but I am stuck on something. Because I didn't know any better, I had booked a hotel in centro, because it seemed to be close to all the low priced casa action, but from what I'm reading in some pages in this forum, it doesn't seem to be a smart place for me to stay for my very first visit. Maybe later, but not right now, when I don't even know any Spanish. My issue is that no matter where I travel, I try to avoid taxis as much as possible and I like to either take a train, bus or walk. Taxis of course are always the more expensive transportation option which I try to avoid by trying to position myself in hotels to where I would not need a taxi.

Anyway, I'm now thinking that I still want easy access to the El centro area, but won't want to get a hotel there, due to what I mentioned above. Did research tonight and it seems that areas I should stay as a first timer is the El Poblado area or the Laureles area. I saw tonight that a metro train (Linea A) can take me from El Poblado to El Centro (Parque Berrio, Prado stops), so that looked promising. No idea at the moment if Laureles area offers something similar, but for right now, I need to know if anyone can recommend a low priced hotel (less than 50 a night. Don't want an airbnb) that is within a short WALKING DISTANCE of El Poblado station. Hopefully it's guest friendly as well, but I'll email your recommended hotel to confirm.

If I am again on the wrong track (like I was when I originally booked a hotel in centro), just let me know a better suggestion for what I am looking for. Reading here about the low casa prices is what drove me to say screw Thailand and purchase this Medellin airline ticket.

Will appreciate any help. I promise a very good first timer trip report when I return back home!

[QUOTE=TheWindexMan;2608491]... Anyway, I'm now thinking that I still want easy access to the El centro area, but won't want to get a hotel there, due to what I mentioned above. Did research tonight and it seems that areas I should stay as a first timer is the El Poblado area or the Laureles area. I saw tonight that a metro train (Linea A) can take me from El Poblado to El Centro (Parque Berrio, Prado stops), so that looked promising. No idea at the moment if Laureles area offers something similar, but for right now, I need to know if anyone can recommend a low priced hotel (less than 50 a night. Don't want an airbnb) that is within a short WALKING DISTANCE of El Poblado station. Hopefully it's guest friendly as well, but I'll email your recommended hotel to confirm. ...[/QUOTE]The Metro trains go from Laureles to the San Antonio station. You should venture out around the San Antonio and Parque Berrio stations, and not the Prado station. There are many hotels on and near LA 70 in Laureles Estadio. I have read many are guest friendly. The rooms facing LA 70 will be noisy during the weekends. I don't stay in hotels, so I can't provide personal information. The hotels in Laureles are quite a bit cheaper than in Poblado.

[QUOTE=TheWindexMan;2608491]Hi everyone,

About to make my first trip to Medellin in November and trying to do a lot of research, but I am stuck on something. Because I didn't know any better, I had booked a hotel in centro, because it seemed to be close to all the low priced casa action, but from what I'm reading in some pages in this forum, it doesn't seem to be a smart place for me to stay for my very first visit. Maybe later, but not right now, when I don't even know any Spanish. My issue is that no matter where I travel, I try to avoid taxis as much as possible and I like to either take a train, bus or walk. Taxis of course are always the more expensive transportation option which I try to avoid by trying to position myself in hotels to where I would not need a taxi.

Anyway, I'm now thinking that I still want easy access to the El centro area, but won't want to get a hotel there, due to what I mentioned above. Did research tonight and it seems that areas I should stay as a first timer is the El Poblado area or the Laureles area. I saw tonight that a metro train (Linea A) can take me from El Poblado to El Centro (Parque Berrio, Prado stops), so that looked promising. No idea at the moment if Laureles area offers something similar, but for right now, I need to know if anyone can recommend a low priced hotel (less than 50 a night. Don't want an airbnb) that is within a short WALKING DISTANCE of El Poblado station. Hopefully it's guest friendly as well, but I'll email your recommended hotel to confirm.[/QUOTE]San Peter Apartments in Laureles. You can find it on booking for com. About $30 per night. There is a second metro train line that goes from Laureles to El Centro. It's a short walk, from San Peter apartments to the Estadio metro station. More importantly it's nice and flat. The Poblado station sits at the bottom of a steep hill.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2608347]... I will arrive at about 8 pm in MDE, so when I take the bus I will be at San Diego Mall at about 9 pm (and then need to take a taxi from there to my Hotel in Poblado.

Is this doable and safe to go out from the Bus at this time and at this place with my Luggage and take a taxi from there? Are there Taxis already waiting?[/QUOTE]It is doable and safe. When you get to San Diego, there will be a group of young ladies and men to help you with your luggage and hail a taxi for you. They are completely safe and help you for a tip, one or two mil is sufficient. Sometimes taxis are waiting and sometimes not, but at that time of night they should be waiting. You have to walk a short distance from where the bus drops you off to where the taxis pick you up. The helpers will take your luggage and lead the way.

[QUOTE=TheWindexMan;2608491].... Because I didn't know any better, I had booked a hotel in centro, because it seemed to be close to all the low priced casa action, but from what I'm reading in some pages in this forum, it doesn't seem to be a smart place for me to stay for my very first visit. ...[/QUOTE]It's not that bad. You just have to get familiar with and remember the streets during daytime so you don't get lost or have to stop looking at map at night time. Think about it. If you want to rob someone, where would you go? El Centro or El Poblado?

You can look up Osteoknot's posts. He has mentioned some hotels in Laureles.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2607945]...jajajaja. Keep On Keepin' On![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2608395]I was watching this video of a youtuber walking around El Centro and around 7:05 there is some footage of the infamous Carrera 53 Calle 52 intersection from a great vantage point which I'm am deducing is the Grill Venecia (see attached photo).

Anyone ever eat here before- is it as promising as it looks as an observation deck of the action?[/QUOTE]You can see the name Grill Venecia on Google maps street view on the second floor. But have never eaten there. There is a place a block and a half away across from Miami Center that has smoked meat using wood that I love to go to. I would recommend just grabbing some drinks for sale on the second floor and sitting there simply for the view. Better view then being on the street and no worries about pick pockets or homeless people or girls asking you to take them.

But I hate that hotel for short time. The one behind it is better. They seem to always shorten the time. Also, it is so loud with the people up there. They are always banging on the doors letting people know time is up. I was with a girl and they pounded on the door next or across from us and it is was so loud like it was our door. So the girl I was with was like "time is up" and I explained we just got started and only been 10 minutes.

Reminder that half the girls you see in front of the yellow restaurant across the street are lemons and good luck trying to make lemonade.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2608313]But people from Armenia are Paisa too. You lost me with that one. I have met plenty of chicks from Armenia and B'manga. What is so hard about it?[/QUOTE]I was in Armenia 2 months ago. If you compare the sheer numbers of street girls there to Medellin it is like a ratio of 25 to 1 so that would would be harder wouldn't you think? Plus, it is only one street from corner to corner of girls. Any questions? When I looked at Google Street View of that street there were 2 with big boobs but Google blurs the faces. Got there and that was trannie corner and those big boobs were on guys.

It's not quite Medellin but close. If you're staying at an airport hotel next to the airport in Rionegro it might be a better option that risking the traffic into Medellin.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/soy-mafer-una-hermosa-masajista-erotica-profesional/21565993/[/URL]

I didn't see this particular chica but there are a number of adds from this establishment. Click on "Anuncios mismo teléfono" and you'll see all the girls on offer there. These girls use an apartment on the east side of the town. On google maps search for "Panorama Austral Rionegro" and that's very close to their apartment. Their building and those next to it are still underconstruction. When I arrived they were slow to call me up to the room so I had to wander around outside for 20 minutes or so until they got back to me via Whatsapp. When I finally got the word I had to stop and the security shack. The young completely uninterested guy there talked to one of the girls before giving me the room number and letting me inside.

So finally when I'm in the room there are two of the women in the ads. I took them both for 300 mil and had a great time. One of them did a pretty nice DFK and the other LFK. One of them must have been new because the other patiently explained that when a guy has two women in the room they want to see the girls make out at the very least. Yep. I resemble that remark. Both the girls were gentle and enthusiastic. The room was barely large enough for the mattress on the floor so repositioning took some effort but they were happy to do what I wanted. I didn't ask about BB anything and I really have no idea if they would do it.

If someone has info on action closer to Jose Maria Cordova airport please message me. You won't get stuck in a tunnel like going into Medellin but I'd still rather spend less time in a cab.

My suggestion is to book an Arbnb or hotel in either laureles or nearby poblado for a couple of nights. You can take the metro or cab to see el centro and see if that kind of environment suits you? Be aware that a lot of the supporters of el centro here don't venture out at night for good reasons. This board is dominated by members that swear that el centro is great. I don't agree with that but I respect their opinions. I personally don't go there. If you want to stay in an arbnb in laureles, I would be careful about booking a room in SanPeter. The noise level is intolerable unless you are lucky enough to get a sound proof room. Only a few of the rooms provide that. Good luck

[QUOTE=Nounce;2608507]It's not that bad. You just have to get familiar with and remember the streets during daytime so you don't get lost or have to stop looking at map at night time. Think about it. If you want to rob someone, where would you go? El Centro or El Poblado?

You can look up Osteoknot's posts. He has mentioned some hotels in Laureles.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2608351]No, Laura Bustamante does NOT have a hair lip.[/QUOTE]I was just with pucca 2 weeks ago. She does not have facial hair like husker said. She is actually a really cool chick. Not a 10 by any means but I spent several days with her and she was real good company. Above average sex average to above average looks. She is clearly a pro so even when she does her best with GFE you can sniff through her efforts but she gets points for trying and of course. English.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2608395]I was watching this video of a youtuber walking around El Centro and around 7:05 there is some footage of the infamous Carrera 53 Calle 52 intersection from a great vantage point which I'm am deducing is the Grill Venecia (see attached photo).

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0c_qn_wxIU&list=PL3qIKKFJmVmS0clk_5FngjMyq8escpYVz&index=4[/URL]

Anyone ever eat here before- is it as promising as it looks as an observation deck of the action?[/QUOTE]The video at 7:05 is a current view where-as your screen shot is located directly across the street and probably taken 5 years ago as the second floor short term room motel has been remodeled a few years ago and the 2nd floor seating has been reduced to the corner section.

I have fucked in that motel more times then I can count over the past 5 years. It is a cheap 7 mil for 30 minutes motel. I also have sat in the remodeled corner section and re-charged my batteries and watched the action below.

The restaurant as shown in the video at 7:05 is opened and very active place during the day and at any given time during the day and evening there are probably 30 chicas standing in the arched entry ways and right outside the eatery. I have only purchased drinks at this restaurant in the past 5 years and don't recall ever eating something.

The Tall Man.

Secret and I had had a little falling-out a few weeks ago when I bailed out of a taxi also occupied by her and a driver friend of hers, nothing serious. Not surprisingly she's been messaging me almost every day since then. We would see each other on average 3 times a week before that little incident maybe more usually in the middle of the night, she was a great booty call. I did not intend to see her again this trip but as is often the case my little head out negotiated my big head. I like all types of girls all sizes, and all colors. She is your type if you like the Victoria's Secret model body which she often wears and had on last night. She hasn't changed, she is a hardcore Bello puta, I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her, she always tries to change the deal, she can't be trusted, she doesn't keep her word, has a drug-addled mind, and she gives detached impersonal performances in bed. In other words, hawt as fuck, jajajajaja. Ostee Out. Keep On Keepin' On!

Anyone book 3 hours at New Life? So Can I pop 2-3 x?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2607227]For you facebook guys, word on the street is to watch out for this chick.[/QUOTE]Thanks for looking out E. She is on my FB. I'll cut her loose.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2608669]I have fucked in that motel more times then I can count over the past 5 years.[/QUOTE]Hey mate,

Would you rent an apartment without porter in Cali (in the Granada area) or in Medellin?

If you fuck so often, what precautions should we take in this pandemic time? Fuck with condom and get blowjob without condom?

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2608698]Anyone book 3 hours at New Life? So Can I pop 2-3 x?[/QUOTE]New Life is a great place with good service but I wouldn't want to spend 3 hours in their small cramped rooms. For a 3 hour session I would prefer to be in a hotel or apartment and if you want a New Life girl then arrange a meeting when she is off.

30 k is normal from what I remember and what is the going price, there are exceptions, trios, that are 30 per person, condom or no condom, and some girls want a bit more for picts. Had one this morning and she was good. Fake blond hair, but good personality, and compliant. Paid 30 k plus 9 k tip, plus 8 k for the room. Did I over pay? It really does not feel like it to me. There I some strange things going on here. Quoted 80 this morning, cute, but just had to pass. I really don't know or care about other parts of MDE, but I did hear sculpimine available and the girls in llares use it. Again. I don't go there so often to care what others are doing, Just more of a PSA. Be carful out there. It really is a thing and is available if you know where to go. Some Gringos have left and I expect some will come back or arrive as newbies. Personally, I am looking for an apartment. I want to stay here for a while, 6 months at a time.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2608677]Secret and I had had a little falling-out a few weeks ago when I bailed out of a taxi also occupied by her and a driver friend of hers, nothing serious. Not surprisingly she's been messaging me almost every day since then. We would see each other on average 3 times a week before that little incident maybe more usually in the middle of the night, she was a great booty call. I did not intend to see her again this trip but as is often the case my little head out negotiated my big head. I like all types of girls all sizes, and all colors. She is your type if you like the Victoria's Secret model body which she often wears and had on last night. She hasn't changed, she is a hardcore Bello puta, I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her, she always tries to change the deal, she can't be trusted, she doesn't keep her word, has a drug-addled mind, and she gives detached impersonal performances in bed. In other words, hawt as fuck, jajajajaja. Ostee Out. Keep On Keepin' On![/QUOTE]Thats awesome. How did you manage to find a puta that has so few tattoos. Seems like here once they get a little bit of money, they get another tattoo. Tattoos are a bit dated for me, but if the girl preforms well, whos to complain, not I. Just my humble opinion.

Peace.

So 30 k is on the higher end and what most of us rats pay. The Colombians who go with the lower end girls pay 10 k to 15 k and use the 3 k rooms. Also, Centro girls absolutely work Lleras. Anyone who doubts what I am saying should translate or read the original from El Colombiano: [URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/amp/antioquia/la-prostitucion-esta-migrando-del-centro-al-parque-lleras-MG15759566?__twitter_impression=true[/URL].

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2608745]30 k is normal from what I remember and what is the going price, there are exceptions, trios, that are 30 per person, condom or no condom, and some girls want a bit more for picts. Had one this morning and she was good. Fake blond hair, but good personality, and compliant. Paid 30 k plus 9 k tip, plus 8 k for the room. Did I over pay? It really does not feel like it to me. There I some strange things going on here. Quoted 80 this morning, cute, but just had to pass. I really don't know or care about other parts of MDE, but I did hear sculpimine available and the girls in llares use it. Again. I don't go there so often to care what others are doing, Just more of a PSA. Be carful out there. It really is a thing and is available if you know where to go. Some Gringos have left and I expect some will come back or arrive as newbies. Personally, I am looking for an apartment. I want to stay here for a while, 6 months at a time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2608395]I was watching this video of a youtuber walking around El Centro and around 7:05 there is some footage of the infamous Carrera 53 Calle 52 intersection from a great vantage point which I'm am deducing is the Grill Venecia (see attached photo).

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0c_qn_wxIU&list=PL3qIKKFJmVmS0clk_5FngjMyq8escpYVz&index=4[/URL]

Anyone ever eat here before- is it as promising as it looks as an observation deck of the action?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's an excellent observation deck / balcony to watch the stream of Chicas down below.

You can take the bus to the Nutibara hotel and avoid the helpers and draggong luggage to the taxis. There is not much difference in distance.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2608506]It is doable and safe. When you get to San Diego, there will be a group of young ladies and men to help you with your luggage and hail a taxi for you. They are completely safe and help you for a tip, one or two mil is sufficient. Sometimes taxis are waiting and sometimes not, but at that time of night they should be waiting. You have to walk a short distance from where the bus drops you off to where the taxis pick you up. The helpers will take your luggage and lead the way.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2608630]My suggestion is to book an Arbnb or hotel in either laureles or nearby poblado for a couple of nights. You can take the metro or cab to see el centro and see if that kind of environment suits you? Be aware that a lot of the supporters of el centro here don't venture out at night for good reasons. This board is dominated by members that swear that el centro is great. I don't agree with that but I respect their opinions. I personally don't go there. If you want to stay in an arbnb in laureles, I would be careful about booking a room in SanPeter. The noise level is intolerable unless you are lucky enough to get a sound proof room. Only a few of the rooms provide that. Good luck

.[/QUOTE]Same thing can be said about people who never been to El Centro at night and offering suggestions. Same suggestion can be made to the OP to only book one or two nights in El Centro.

The OP's original thinking wasn't wrong. If I were going to focus on casas in El Centro, and I am going to have two pops a day. Is it better to stay nearby and be able to go anytime I want and go back to the hotel any time I want. Or make a trip and stay out several hours not sure what to do during down time? Or make two trips each day?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2607892]Which is to say, another fantastic day. Technically, 4 girls in a day would be my average which would make this an above average day, jeje.

The blond with the pink belly button is the new "umbrella" girl. I literally just walked up to her at random to ask where I could buy an umbrella that she was standing under and she instantly shared it with me. Nice. Well, if your "random" sample was defined as all girls with an umbrella, jeje.

While I was talking and walking to the store with her I began to notice how cute and sweet and pretty her face was and 30 minutes later we were in a hotel fucking and the word "no" was not in her vocabulary. She was awesome and I've got her phone number. I gave her less than $15 USD and she was grateful for it. Obviously, she was a puta, or was she?[/QUOTE]Ostee,

I remember there was one point at which I studied your post in hopes of learning so a future trip to Medellin is a fraction as good as yours has been. I gave up and read your posts purely for entertainment now. I wouldn't be able to replicate the shit you've done the past few months even if I had a dozen trips under my belt and learned Spanish better than I communicate in my mother tongue. Lucky fuck! Jajaja.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2608698]Anyone book 3 hours at New Life? So Can I pop 2-3 x?[/QUOTE]About 5 years ago I had an ATF there and so did book the room for like 3 hours, my girl was so fun and giving just had to have it over and over.

I also have a good Colombian friend who frequents this casa and he takes one girl for 45 min to an hour and as soon as he finishes with her takes another one then when he finishes with that takes a 3rd one. Gawd to be in my 40's again hehehe.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2608499]San Peter Apartments in Laureles. You can find it on booking for com. About $30 per night. There is a second metro train line that goes from Laureles to El Centro. It's a short walk, from San Peter apartments to the Estadio metro station. More importantly it's nice and flat. The Poblado station sits at the bottom of a steep hill.[/QUOTE]Thanks JjBee62 for the apartment suggestion! Yes, I do see that it is available for a good price on [URL]booking.com[/URL] and I see that the place has amenities that I would want. I see that another poster mentioned that it can be very noisy, so I will email San Peter and see if there's a certain area that a person can stay to reduce the noise.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2608497]The Metro trains go from Laureles to the San Antonio station. You should venture out around the San Antonio and Parque Berrio stations, and not the Prado station. There are many hotels on and near LA 70 in Laureles Estadio. I have read many are guest friendly. The rooms facing LA 70 will be noisy during the weekends. I don't stay in hotels, so I can't provide personal information. The hotels in Laureles are quite a bit cheaper than in Poblado.[/QUOTE]Appreciate this feedback Fun Luvr! Checking out hotels in that Laureles area. Was thinking about that Poblado area mainly due to Parque Lleras, but after reading more about that place, I'm not really interested in paying the prices the women charge there, so now I am fine with staying in Laureles area instead. Unless I misread something, it looks like Laureles has a park as well. Don't know if similar to Parque Lleras. Still reading and studying.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2608507]It's not that bad. You just have to get familiar with and remember the streets during daytime so you don't get lost or have to stop looking at map at night time. Think about it. If you want to rob someone, where would you go? El Centro or El Poblado?

You can look up Osteoknot's posts. He has mentioned some hotels in Laureles.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nounce! I will look into at least getting a map and try to do street study before I go down there. Even if I don't officially stay in El Centro, the prices are just too good down there to not visit. I'll make sure to do my visits during the daytime. Will also review some past posts from Osteoknot.

Really appreciate everyone's feedback.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2608796]About 5 years ago I had an ATF there and so did book the room for like 3 hours, my girl was so fun and giving just had to have it over and over.

I also have a good Colombian friend who frequents this casa and he takes one girl for 45 min to an hour and as soon as he finishes with her takes another one then when he finishes with that takes a 3rd one. Gawd to be in my 40's again hehehe.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]One advantage of New Life, for someone who is uncertain about how much time they want to spend, is you pay after, for however long you were in the room. Most of the other casas you pay up front for a specific time. It would suck to pay for 3 hours and it turns out the girl isn't someone you want to spend that much time with. At New Life you can get away from a dud after 30 minutes, or stay with a star for as long as you want.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2601398]Hotel Nutibara El Centro.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Osteoknot;2601308]I can't tell from your question exactly what's going on, it almost sounds like you've got family or legit business in your primary room which means these two rooms must not cross. The reason I say that is because the best set up for mongering in both rooms is two rooms in the same hotel. One in the front, one in the back, different floors, different stairwells. The most common misconception is that you need different hotels and worse, far apart. The closer the better. But if you're at risk of end of marriage or end of job if you get caught then I would not recommend same hotel.

You know there are Love Motels, right? You usually pay for a block of time like 3 hours. I was in one yesterday in Bello. 30 mil COP for 3 hours. I know a great Love Motel within walking distance of El Centro that is clean, safe, secure, hot water, etc. It is caddy-corner off the left front corner of Simon Bolivar Parque but if you need the exact location PM me. There are a lot of short time motels in El Centro itself used by the putas but you should here from the El Centro Rat Gang on those, I'm not up to date on that. I was there today, but did not partake. I saw a short time hotel that is literally the closest one to the front of the Vera Cruz church, if you are facing the church, it's on the left, I can't remember the name but I have never heard it mentioned here, I think it was the "Real"? Anywho, it had more putas hanging out at the entrance and spilling down the stairs than any other hotel I saw there today, albeit it was a Sunday. Do any of you Rats know what hotel I am talking about?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Surfer500;2601401]A couple of things to ponder about all the Venezuelans in Centro and ID's. First off, your correct, there are lot's of them there without ID's whether it be Cedulas or a Passport. However this is not a concern for the locals, which have to be I'm guessing over 98% of their clients, and the locals don't fall under USA laws, meaning it being illegal for a USA citizen going with someone under 18 anywhere in the world which your aware of.

When I am in El Centro I see so many young girls working that I will not even get near them, albeit there fair game for the locals which is their client base versus foreigners.

The majority of the love hotels in El Centro do not check ID's. The exception though are the Hotels that are licensed to have foreigners overnight. So as an example, I have a friend here who has not been able to take a Venezuelan without an ID to the Premium Plaza because of their licensing, yet all of the girls working in Centro when they have no ID know of hotels that will let them in without it.

So getting back to what you want to do. Smart move to have a safe and secure primary place to have all your stuff. When you hit El Centro and you find someone you like with no ID, and feel comfortable that she is of legal age, she will be able to direct you where to go, albeit whether there is hot water you will have to ask. There are some real dives you don't want to go into, but all of the girls will know where to go or they wouldn't be out there working.

Another poster sent me a message about how I handle myself in El Centro when girls whether they be Colombians or Vennies don't have an ID. And as I mentioned, if they appear young I pass, albeit there are a lot of guys in El Centro that go with them, as these girls know where to go, but I will not. The mongers that do this, and there are a lot of them doing it down there, are playing with fire..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TheWindexMan;2608802]Thanks JjBee62 for the apartment suggestion! Yes, I do see that it is available for a good price on [URL]booking.com[/URL] and I see that the place has amenities that I would want. I see that another poster mentioned that it can be very noisy, so I will email San Peter and see if there's a certain area that a person can stay to reduce the noise.

Appreciate this feedback Fun Luvr! Checking out hotels in that Laureles area. Was thinking about that Poblado area mainly due to Parque Lleras, but after reading more about that place, I'm not really interested in paying the prices the women charge there, so now I am fine with staying in Laureles area instead. Unless I misread something, it looks like Laureles has a park as well. Don't know if similar to Parque Lleras. Still reading and studying..[/QUOTE]San peter, the rooms ending in 01 are the noisiest. Best are the ones ending in 02. The ones ending in 03 are also OK.

I think generally, floors 7 and below are around 30 USD. The higher ones are like 40 to 50 usd. Just an approximation based on my observations.

A couple of wrongs turned out right today. First of all I would not have not gone out to El Centro if I knew it was a Sunday, but I thought it was a Saturday. Once I saw all the storefronts closed I sort of figured it out. The right was that it became a fantastic day.

I've been chatting up this cute little tight Vennie chica at the horse statue for a few days. I thought she was too young, but wait, she whipped out her cedula today and it showed that she was 19 yo. I was meeting my Spanish teacher in El Centro for a blowjob so she would not have to travel as far and the cost of a Love Motel was much less than the guest fee at the luxury hotel where I was staying at on Avenida 70. The funny thing there is she had obviously never done anything like that before because when we went into our room at the love Motel she didn't lock the door and one of the staff walked in on us, jajajaja.

Anywho, Spanish Teacher is intelligent, educated and also from Venezuela. After her stellar BJ, I asked Spanish Teacher to go out to the horse statue with me and check out the other little Vennie girl's ID or cedula. Spanish Teacher confirmed the other little Vennie's ID was definitely legit, including the red serial number on the back and encased in plastic and that meant I was off to the love motel with the girl who I formerly believed and posted here was too young. And she was awesome. I have her phone number and she's dying to come to my hotel.

All photos are from today and include this story. Ostee Out. Keep On Keepin' On!

Oh fuck! I almost forgot one of the best parts. She has a one-year-old at home and she's still breastfeeding and I got a free sample, jjajajjaa!

Oh yeah the city shots are in front and to the side of the Veracruz Church near Ground Zero and in the one you can see the glass sidewalk that guys discuss or mention frequently at times sometimes here Whatever Whenever.

I know this reads wonky I'm not going to repair or replace my computer until I get back to the United States I'm still using an old cell phone. What does that tell you?

There are f* gorgeous, sweet, clean girls everywhere out here in El Centro, including preggos.

I am not a spanish speaker. So what is the best way to communicate with SW in El Centro?

Is it advisable to use Google Translate with SW? It means I have to carry my phone with me and use it on street to communicate with SW. Is it safe?

Is it safe to use a phone and using Google translate in Casa or club?

Need advice and recommedation from other non-spanish speaking mongers who have tackled the communication issue with SW and casa girls.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2608760]You can take the bus to the Nutibara hotel and avoid the helpers and draggong luggage to the taxis. There is not much difference in distance.[/QUOTE]Thanks. But I thought that the Area around Nutibara Hotel would be a bit more sketchy for a new arriving Gringo at this time with his Luggage than san Diego mall.

Or is this no difference?

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2608698]Anyone book 3 hours at New Life? So Can I pop 2-3 x?[/QUOTE]I would think that would be possible once you pay the girl accordingly. What I have done in the past is to take three girls separately consecutively and get 3 pops. Much more fun in my book.

I guess all the Sosua Simps and Youtube Fukboys coupled with girls finally realizing they can make 5 times as much in El Poblado. Cartagena should see a spike in prices soon as well.

"En el Centro, un rato cuesta en promedio $10.000, mas $3.000 que vale el alquiler ocasional de una pieza en un motel. Sin embargo, hay extranjeras (Venezolanas) que cobran $5.000 o pagan ellas mismas la habitacion, lo que hace ms favorable la transaccion para el cliente."

"Por duro que parezca, $5.000 no representan el fondo de la degradacin del oficio. Luz Mery dijo que junto a los baos pblicos de los parques (esas llamativas casetas de plstico azul), hay mujeres que cobran $3.000 por sexo oral."

- I hope some of you Big Willies bragging about $50 mil tips and buying chicas luxury items can understand this.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/la-prostitucion-esta-migrando-del-centro-al-parque-lleras-MG15759566[/URL]

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2608858] SW in El Centro? I have to carry my phone with me and use it on street to communicate with SW. Is it safe?
Is it safe to use a phone and using Google translate in Casa or club?
[/QUOTE]In casas and clubs, its 100% safe (well, as safe as can be). On the street. Up to you. Kit's easy to slip in to the corrosive mentality of thinking everyone in El Centro is a thief, but the reality is that 99.9% of people there are as honest as you or I. But if you want to be extra cautious, you could start by frequenting the bars on Cra 53. These bars have girls working in them and its the closest thing to a "bar girl" scene like you have in Thailand etc. In these bars, you have an extra degree of safety from thieves. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2608858]I am not a spanish speaker. So what is the best way to communicate with SW in El Centro?

Is it advisable to use Google Translate with SW? It means I have to carry my phone with me and use it on street to communicate with SW. Is it safe?

Is it safe to use a phone and using Google translate in Casa or club?

Need advice and recommedation from other non-spanish speaking mongers who have tackled the communication issue with SW and casa girls.[/QUOTE]No matter where I travel, I don't carry my main phone with me in the streets. That stays in my safe. On the streets in a foreign country, I carry a phone that I wouldn't give a shit about losing like the unlocked Samsung S6 that I purchased off of ebay for 45 bucks last year. Works perfectly. Bought that and as usual will get a local sim card when in town and I'm good. If stolen (which likely won't happen), so what. The phone cost 45 bucks and the most I'll lose is some phone numbers and x-rated pictures.

The ones ending in 03 that do not have sound proof windows are impossible to get any sleep. I know because I was just there. Best to ask for ventanas antiruido.

Anti noise windows. You can look up the available rooms on arbnb. Don't ask the desk for which are the quiet rooms. They will give you a room that is supposed to be quiet and act surprised to find out from you that they are intolerable to sleep. If you are unsure, do not book multiple nights as I know people were complaining that they won't give a refund.

Go to arbnb check for anti noise windows and read the reviews.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2608833]San peter, the rooms ending in 01 are the noisiest. Best are the ones ending in 02. The ones ending in 03 are also OK.

I think generally, floors 7 and below are around 30 USD. The higher ones are like 40 to 50 usd. Just an approximation based on my observations.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JustTK;2608963]In casas and clubs, its 100% safe (well, as safe as can be). On the street. Up to you. Kit's easy to slip in to the corrosive mentality of thinking everyone in El Centro is a thief, but the reality is that 99.9% of people there are as honest as you or I. But if you want to be extra cautious, you could start by frequenting the bars on Cra 53. These bars have girls working in them and its the closest thing to a "bar girl" scene like you have in Thailand etc. In these bars, you have an extra degree of safety from thieves. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips. I will definitely check the Bar scene on CRA 53 - any particular bar that is better then the rest?

I also have a burner phone, MOTO G7 Plus, $160, so I will take the risk with it.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2608962]I guess all the Sosua Simps and Youtube Fukboys coupled with girls finally realizing they can make 5 times as much in El Poblado. Cartagena should see a spike in prices soon as well.

"En el Centro, un rato cuesta en promedio $10.000, mas $3.000 que vale el alquiler ocasional de una pieza en un motel. Sin embargo, hay extranjeras (Venezolanas) que cobran $5.000 o pagan ellas mismas la habitacion, lo que hace ms favorable la transaccion para el cliente."

"Por duro que parezca, $5.000 no representan el fondo de la degradacin del oficio. Luz Mery dijo que junto a los baos pblicos de los parques (esas llamativas casetas de plstico azul), hay mujeres que cobran $3.000 por sexo oral."

- I hope some of you Big Willies bragging about $50 mil tips and buying chicas luxury items can understand this.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/la-prostitucion-esta-migrando-del-centro-al-parque-lleras-MG15759566[/URL][/QUOTE]Actually before the Pandemic I remember some of Centro's finest beached whales belching out Sexo solo 10,000 not including the room, and on the backside of the Church girls going for 15,000 including the room.

This is of course before the onslaught of the "Big Willies" aka, the newbie Colombian mongers which have been showing up in herds over the past six months.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2608962]"En el Centro, un rato cuesta en promedio $10.000, mas $3.000 que vale el alquiler ocasional de una pieza en un motel. Sin embargo, hay extranjeras (Venezolanas) que cobran $5.000[/QUOTE]So what you are saying is centro rats have been being ripped off to the tune of 3 times more than they should have been paying and 6 times more if she is Venezuelan, plus all the extravagant tips. Hell, those overpaying mfs have been giving tips in the amount of more than what the entire service should have cost! Bastards driving up the price.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2608858]I am not a spanish speaker. So what is the best way to communicate with SW in El Centro?

Is it advisable to use Google Translate with SW? It means I have to carry my phone with me and use it on street to communicate with SW. Is it safe?

Is it safe to use a phone and using Google translate in Casa or club?

Need advice and recommedation from other non-spanish speaking mongers who have tackled the communication issue with SW and casa girls.[/QUOTE]Very simple and works like a charm.

Write down on a 3" by 5" card exactly what you want translated from English to Spanish.

Be specific, blow job uncovered as an example, how much time, and how much.

Maybe this sounds odd, but no worries about having to carry your phone with you, and I've seen guys in Tijuana do this and it works.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=TheWindexMan;2608802]

Appreciate this feedback Fun Luvr! Checking out hotels in that Laureles area. Was thinking about that Poblado area mainly due to Parque Lleras, but after reading more about that place, I'm not really interested in paying the prices the women charge there, so now I am fine with staying in Laureles area instead. Unless I misread something, it looks like Laureles has a park as well. Don't know if similar to Parque Lleras. Still reading and studying.
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Really appreciate everyone's feedback.[/QUOTE]Parque Lleras is not really about it being a park. It is a very small park with a large area of bars, restaurants, hotels around the area. The parks in Laureles are actually parks, and have no specific nightlife associated with them. So they are in no way similar. But there are a number of restaurants in Laureles in the area of 70th and towards the two parks you would see on maps.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2608857]A couple of wrongs turned out right today. First of all I would not have not gone out to El Centro if I knew it was a Sunday, but I thought it was a Saturday. Once I saw all the storefronts closed I sort of figured it out. The right was that it became a fantastic day.

I've been chatting up this cute little tight Vennie chica at the horse statue for a few days. I thought she was too young, but wait, she whipped out her cedula today and it showed that she was 19 yo. I was meeting my Spanish teacher in El Centro for a blowjob so she would not have to travel as far and the cost of a Love Motel was much less than the guest fee at the luxury hotel where I was staying at on Avenida 70. The funny thing there is she had obviously never done anything like that before because when we went into our room at the love Motel she didn't lock the door and one of the staff walked in on us, jajajaja.

Anywho, Spanish Teacher is intelligent, educated and also from Venezuela. After her stellar BJ, I asked Spanish Teacher to go out to the horse statue with me and check out the other little Vennie girl's ID or cedula. Spanish Teacher confirmed the other little Vennie's ID was definitely legit, including the red serial number on the back and encased in plastic and that meant I was off to the love motel with the girl who I formerly believed and posted here was too young. And she was awesome. I have her phone number and she's dying to come to my hotel.

All photos are from today and include this story. Ostee Out. Keep On Keepin' On!

Oh fuck! I almost forgot one of the best parts. She has a one-year-old at home and she's still breastfeeding and I got a free sample, jjajajjaa!

Oh yeah the city shots are in front and to the side of the Veracruz Church near Ground Zero and in the one you can see the glass sidewalk that guys discuss or mention frequently at times sometimes here Whatever Whenever.

I know this reads wonky I'm not going to repair or replace my computer until I get back to the United States I'm still using an old cell phone. What does that tell you?

There are f* gorgeous, sweet, clean girls everywhere out here in El Centro, including preggos.[/QUOTE]Tried to send you a PM. You have any contact info for the preggo? Was she the only one or there was several?

Showdown.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2609022]So what you are saying is centro rats have been being ripped off to the tune of 3 times more than they should have been paying and 6 times more if she is Venezuelan, plus all the extravagant tips. Hell, those overpaying mfs have been giving tips in the amount of more than what the entire service should have cost! Bastards driving up the price.[/QUOTE]Not exactly Mr. E, the bastards have been driving the prices thru the roof for all the newbie Centro mongers, and there has been some collateral effects for the "bonafide" Centro rats on this board, but they aren't being affected as much as the "know it all" newbie mongers.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2609025]Parque Lleras is not really about it being a park. It is a very small park with a large area of bars, restaurants, hotels around the area. The parks in Laureles are actually parks, and have no specific nightlife associated with them. So they are in no way similar. But there are a number of restaurants in Laureles in the area of 70th and towards the two parks you would see on maps.[/QUOTE]Good info that I'll add to my notes!

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2608711]Hey mate,

Would you rent an apartment without porter in Cali (in the Granada area) or in Medellin?

If you fuck so often, what precautions should we take in this pandemic time? Fuck with condom and get blowjob without condom?[/QUOTE]Maybe a mask would be a good thing if you have concerns about Covid.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2608746]Thats awesome. How did you manage to find a puta that has so few tattoos. Seems like here once they get a little bit of money, they get another tattoo. Tattoos are a bit dated for me, but if the girl preforms well, whos to complain, not I. Just my humble opinion.

Peace.[/QUOTE]Once a while you will find one without many, but I never had a Colombian without one so far. In Thailand I had a few without.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2608698]Anyone book 3 hours at New Life? So Can I pop 2-3 x?[/QUOTE]I rather have multiple girls during the day instead of spending to much time with just one.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2608630]My suggestion is to book an Arbnb or hotel in either laureles or nearby poblado for a couple of nights. You can take the metro or cab to see el centro and see if that kind of environment suits you? Be aware that a lot of the supporters of el centro here don't venture out at night for good reasons. This board is dominated by members that swear that el centro is great. I don't agree with that but I respect their opinions. I personally don't go there. If you want to stay in an arbnb in laureles, I would be careful about booking a room in SanPeter. The noise level is intolerable unless you are lucky enough to get a sound proof room. Only a few of the rooms provide that. Good luck.[/QUOTE]I go there myself at night but never alone, with a groups of guys I venture there at night. During the day I am always alone at El centro and I feel fine.

[QUOTE=TheWindexMan;2608802]Will also review some past posts from Osteoknot.[/QUOTE]Search for the word "ayenda".

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2608347]I want to ask for advice about using the Airport Bus from Rio Negro to Medellin.

I want to use the Bus when I arrive in late October.

I will arrive at about 8 pm in MDE, so when I take the bus I will be at San Diego Mall at about 9 pm (and then need to take a taxi from there to my Hotel in Poblado.

Is this doable and safe to go out from the Bus at this time and at this place with my Luggage and take a taxi from there? Are there Taxis already waiting?[/QUOTE]At those times just take a cab from the airport to your hotel its only $25.00 dollars. Why bother saving a few pennies if you arrive tired and have to deal with changing transportation.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2609012]Thanks for the tips. I will definitely check the Bar scene on CRA 53 - any particular bar that is better then the rest?

I also have a burner phone, MOTO G7 Plus, $160, so I will take the risk with it.[/QUOTE]Sorry, can't help you with bar names. I am not sure they even have any. I just usually stop where I fancy. Most of them have bedrooms (read: prison cells w chica) attached.

Burner phone at USD 160. Haha. That's about the same price as my phone. I never buy-in to the upsell. Meaning. The benefits you get for paying more (usually a load of features that you never use. Hehe).

Fridays Facebook date was 1. 5 hours late which I understand is fairly normal but it was pissing me off but it was around 7-8 on a Friday night and traffic was bad. Paid 150 k plus transport 2 ways, she was smaller than I expected from her pictures, which I like, and was cute. DFK, DATY, BBBJ and CFS. We drank a little, danced and I got a pretty good 20 minute massage before she left. She spent a lot of time taking selfies on the bed and in front of the window. I tried to get a few pics but she said that a foreigner posted her pics online once and now she doesn't let people take pics. Overall the experience was pretty good but I have come to realize that I prefer the street scene to the FB scene.

Saturday I was very tired and slept most of the day and then headed to LA 70 for some food and beers. Met up with some Americans and was drinking with them until some arguing started so I decided to leave and head to the hotel. Found out Sunday that one of the guys dropped dead about 10 feet from where we were drinking. Apparently he was heavy into the drugs and I was trying to decipher what the Colombians were trying to say happened on Sunday. Almost sounds like he was in a fight with a chica and she drugged him and left him on the street to die but my spanish isn't good enough to overhear people talking in spanish to each other. Just before I found that out, I was in centro Sunday, got there around noon and grabbed some soup and limonaide from a vender and sat in the park people watching. Walked around and sat at one of the bars to have a beer, it was really hot Sunday afternoon. An older gal, skinny, not ugly and with really big tits saw me and sat next to me, chatted in my poor spanish but was thinking to my self to find something younger and cuter. Walked around some more but the vision of her tits drew me back to her and she asked 50 k, got her down to 30 k, went to the room, surprised that it was 16 k when I was used to 7 K rooms but what ever. Played with her tits for a bit and she started CBJ, it was the best blowjob I have gotten in Colombia, a lot of ball licking and sucking, deep throat included. When time for sex I just wanted her to continue sucking. Finished in the condom, a quick shower and back to the street. Walked around a bit and was feeling like going again, turned the corner and a trans grabbed my junk and tried to pull me to a room LOL. Staved her / him off and lost my desire to fuck LOL. Walked to the San Antonio station and found a soccer shirt in my size that I was looking for and back to LA 70, where I found out about the guy dying.

Some observations and notes from the recent posts that I've read. My hotel is on the south end of LA 70 and it's only a 10 minute walk to the Estadio metro station. 3 stops and your at San Antonio station, 3 minute walk to Park Botero, no need to change trains and go the 1 stop, it's really close, just follow the overhead metro line. If your going to stay anywhere around LA 70, there is going to be noise until 4 am or so, being higher up helps but bring earplugs or be a heavy sleeper, I seem to have gotten used to the noise and can sleep with it. If your going to go out drinking, don't get drunk, only carry on you what you can afford to loose and "No dar papaya" as the saying goes. I do carry a cheap cell that I bought here in Colombia and have to use it at least once when with a girl as my spanish is not great, just be aware of when you pull it out and keep it in your pocket all other times and you'll be fine. Get a Civica Eventual card and put 20k on it from any metro station ticket booth, it will last a long time and shows how much left on the card everytime you use it. If you plan to take the tramway to Park Arvi it does cost more, 9k each way I think, so you have to load more on the card.

Hope that helped a little or was at least a bit entertaining. I've got 2 more days in Medellin and leave for the Amazon region on the 30th, I'll try to post any update in the Other Areas section of the forum. Got a manicure, pedicure and massage booked off of Mileroticos in 2 hours so we'll see how that goes.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2609023]Very simple and works like a charm.

Write down on a 3" by 5" card exactly what you want translated from English to Spanish.

Be specific, blow job uncovered as an example, how much time, and how much.

Maybe this sounds odd, but no worries about having to carry your phone with you, and I've seen guys in Tijuana do this and it works.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks. That is excellent idea. Have few flash cards with spanish translations and whip them out as needed to solicit.

[QUOTE=Vewdew;2609091]At those times just take a cab from the airport to your hotel its only $25.00 dollars. Why bother saving a few pennies if you arrive tired and have to deal with changing transportation.[/QUOTE]Because it going to take basically the same time and only cost like $7 total versus the $25 that you mention. Only takes 1 second to get your bag out of a bus and throw it into a taxi.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2609145]...Only takes 1 second to get your bag out of a bus and throw it into a taxi.[/QUOTE]Someone will do it for you and hail the taxi for 2 mil.

[QUOTE=Vewdew;2609053]Maybe a mask would be a good thing if you have concerns about Covid.[/QUOTE]But Covid is also transmitted by touching things. She should give blowjob with a condom too. Ahahahah.

Fucking is a big risk this time.

Following 4 days in Bogota, my first 5 days ever in Medellin. Stayed at the Haven in El Poblado, got the suite with indoor jacuzzi, all good but overall hotel services is just average. Focused on SA / Tinder / FB online game. I liked city in itself, nice weather, clean, and nice scenery / greenery compared to Bogota. A little reminiscent of BKK.

Day 1, I arrived in the afternoon, could not meet an online chica so I just went out to see Parque Lleras, nice partying area but not my kind of pick up place. Then headed to La Isla Club. Was hoping something like Thai agogo. Was there on a Sunday, a slow day I guess. Paid the entry fee and got a beer, watched what was happening, and nothing was happening. In my 40 min there only saw 1 girl dancing, most of the girls sitting on the couch on their phone or talking among themselves, and nothing better than a 7/10. Headed back to my hotel, disappointed with my first day here.

Day 2, met a SA mamacita that I was talking to since a couple of weeks, she is a bit older (29) but is cute and in acceptable shape. She works as a webcam model during the night, where I watched her before coming to Colombia. Said she was working as a vendor for a drink distribution company before. Met at 2 PM in my hotel. She came dressed very nicely, make up and was very sweet and polite and seemed very interested in me. We talked using translator for some time, then relaxed in the Jacuzzi, started kissing DFK for forever then went to bed for BBBJ / BBFS / CIP. She was very sweet and very much into it. She left around 6 PM as she starts at 9 PM the webcam. Paid 200 k. Told me she wanted to see me everyday LOL. I ended up meeting her day 4 and 5 as well, same 200 k per meet and she provided same services including also CIM with swallow, staying a 4-5 hours each time but it was more because she knew I wanted to go out at night to party rather than her wanting to leave, smart girl. She said I was her 1st guy ever from the app and 1st foreigner she has been with. She also took me to Parque Sabaneta to show me around. It is the kind of girl who would like to be my GF, but she is a bit older for me.

Day 3, there was a FB girl who I talked to before coming, but was not sure about meeting her as she looked a bit vulgar on the pics, although slutty at the same time. Nevertheless I decided to meet her, and she looked much better in person, 21 years old paisa with a cute teenage face and braces. A 7.5/10 face and 7. 5/10 balanced body. She spoke good English. She provided deepthroat BBBJ with loads of spit, DFK, BBFS. CIP for 1st shot and CIM with swallow for 2nd shot. A good fuck and good attitude. 350 k for a couple of hours. Was offering anal as well.

Day 4, called another FB to come over, 19 years old. She had a teenage spinner type body, 7/10 but an average face 6. 5/10. She did everything good though, BBBJ / BBFS / CIM but no DFK. 250 k. Was ok but not worth repeating.

Day 5, tried to find a girl for party and fuck at night, took a while but couldn't find any connection, until a girl from SA suddenly messaged me at 8 PM asking if I wanted to meet, looked very sexy, so yes, and quickly agreed 300 k for party and fun from 10 PM to 4 AM. Was perfect for me since I was leaving at 5 AM to the airport. She arrived 1 hour late at 11 PM, 1st girl who was late so far. But she looked stunning, que rico! The wait was well worth it. A sexy / cute face, a solid 8/10 on the face which becomes a 8.5/10 with make up and spinner type body 8.5/10. Dressed properly for a night out in the club. Best looking girl so far, on my last day in Colombia. Did some small talk in the room, then headed to Parque Lleras hands in hand, she 1st took me to the rooftop of Charlee for a few drinks, then to a club (Moet? We took a shisha and a bottle of vodka, and spent the night drinking and dancing. We managed to finished the whole bottle, which was surprising but meant trouble as well. Left around 3 AM, she was drunk, and me too but less than her, but managed to take her to my hotel without trouble thankfully. Got her naked, did DATY on her and tried BBFS but gave up after a few min, too much alcohol in my blood to get things done. She felt asleep, and I had to dress her up myself, and force her out of bed at 5 AM as I had to take my taxi. Too bad I did not meet her before as I would have loved to explore further with her. Fuck. Planning to meet her again next trip. 300 k for her + about 850 k in the clubs.

That is it, I hope it can give newbies here of an overview of possibilities with the online stuff. My first impression on Medellin scene was negative, but gradually turned positive, and with more time and attention in the online game, it could be great. But already a favorite place together with BKK / Patt / MNL / CEB. Also I was there on the wrong days here for partying, that did not help either. Was surprised that all my fuck here were BBFS, whether I asked for it or not. Can't complain overall had a good fun with the Latinas. Back soon.

Why this article so negative?

[URL]https://www.traveloffpath.com/is-medellin-safe-to-visit-top-9-things-travelers-need-to-know/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2609151]But Covid is also transmitted by touching things. She should give blowjob with a condom too. Ahahahah.

Fucking is a big risk this time.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Hard to practice our hobby and be completely safe from Covid (among other things).

Hey everyone!

I'm a 36 yr old American going to Medellin for the first time. Experienced in Tijuana and MX, but not in Medellin.

Is there anywhere to look for pricing guidelines to make sure I'm not getting ripped off?

I'm seeing 200-300 k as a baseline.

Any tips for Seeking or Tinder semipros?

Anything you recommend reading to gain knowledge?

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2609012]Thanks for the tips. I will definitely check the Bar scene on CRA 53 - any particular bar that is better then the rest?

I also have a burner phone, MOTO G7 Plus, $160, so I will take the risk with it.[/QUOTE]For other people who do not have a burner phone but want one, I recommend just searching Amazon for a basic smart phone, I find them for around 50 - 90 USD. Some of them have a dual SIM. I used to do this and load a Google Fi service as one SIM with a USA number, to simplify it people who may need to get in touch me from the USA, they do not need mess with international codes etc. Then I would put a local SIM from Colombia or where ever in the other slot. Do this and you need to switch back and forth though, I keep mine in USA mode until I want to try and reach a chica or whatever, though whatsapp is going to work either way so that is best.

[QUOTE=Combo;2609206]Agreed. Hard to practice our hobby and be completely safe from Covid (among other things).[/QUOTE]Don't forget to give your cock a good rub of alcohol before you enter, just to be doubly sure. We can't be taking 0. 0001% risks can we!

Jeez, with attitudes like that, I am surprised you ever made it out of your house.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2609227]For other people who do not have a burner phone but want one, I recommend just searching Amazon for a basic smart phone, I find them for around 50 - 90 USD. Some of them have a dual SIM. I used to do this and load a Google Fi service as one SIM with a USA number, to simplify it people who may need to get in touch me from the USA, they do not need mess with international codes etc. Then I would put a local SIM from Colombia or where ever in the other slot. Do this and you need to switch back and forth though, I keep mine in USA mode until I want to try and reach a chica or whatever, though whatsapp is going to work either way so that is best.[/QUOTE]Google Fi is really the best way to go to Colombia. Unfortunately, some of the phones you listed probably are not going to work with google Fi.

You can see the ones that work here: [URL]https://fi.google.com/compatibility[/URL].

You can also buy the phones direct from google. I guess you could use a gift card if you wanted to be anonymous and give a fake name or something. [URL]https://fi.google.com/about/phones/[/URL]#explore.

They have some Motorola phones for $99 and a Samsung 5 g phone for $179, never seen one that cheap.

[QUOTE=Raftaar;2609162]Following 4 days in Bogota, my first 5 days ever in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Thank you for taking the time to type all this up.

It does not take the same time as an uber or taxi. Getting on a taxi or uber is much quicker and comfortable than a bus. Unless your goal is to be at El centro. In that case, I guess it doesn't matter.

I like to be comfortable and relaxed while being driven door to door to my apartment or hotel. After traveling so long to get to Medellin do you really care about the $18 or $17 saved? When you can relax in a car as compared to a crowded bus?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2609145]Because it going to take basically the same time and only cost like $7 total versus the $25 that you mention. Only takes 1 second to get your bag out of a bus and throw it into a taxi.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2608858]I am not a spanish speaker. So what is the best way to communicate with SW in El Centro?

Is it advisable to use Google Translate with SW? It means I have to carry my phone with me and use it on street to communicate with SW. Is it safe?

Is it safe to use a phone and using Google translate in Casa or club?

Need advice and recommedation from other non-spanish speaking mongers who have tackled the communication issue with SW and casa girls.[/QUOTE]Memorize and practice a few phrases and offer exactly what you want and for how much. Or have a cheaper secondary phone and pull her to the side and pull out the phone.

My fellow pussy hounds. I love these European looking blanca Latinas. How is the selection in Medellin and Colombia overall?

Best Regards.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2609180]Why this article so negative?

[URL]https://www.traveloffpath.com/is-medellin-safe-to-visit-top-9-things-travelers-need-to-know/[/URL][/QUOTE]Another title for this article could have been "Things you should have learned in 3rd Grade!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=LoisSanborn;2607883]Feel like this has been answered before, but I forget if so. My friend pulled a chick from Gusto who agreed to 300 k at the club but changed her tune to 300 USD at the hotel. Obviously, he kicked her ass to the curb. But at this point it's already 4 am. Any other options available? Just curious for future reference. For me, my main focus is probably going to be earlier hour casas like new life, sandals, energa, loutron, etc and prebooked appts with fb chicas. I am interested in knowing what my options will be so I won't be left holding my dick como mi amigo.[/QUOTE]Have a back up girl that is always awake or down at those times. Doesn't need to be a stunner. Be clear with everything before you leave the club and mention 300 mil so they know you are talking pesos. If you use translate take a screen shot or I think it keeps a history maybe. I went to gustos last week with a group and we went back to their place and similar thing happened to them. My girl was dope but they agreed to 600 for theirs so she mentioned once that were getting more but she said it was fine LOL. Their girls kept talking money and ruing the guys mood and in the morning I think they were hella annoyed, they had to leave to go to the ATM to get them to leave.

Basically I batted 500 yesterday. I had not spent any time alone with Hot Housewife in weeks and she's been burning up my Whassapp so I caved on the first day I moved into a new luxury hotel on Avenue 70. Minutes after she showed up she got a call from her significant other and had to hightail it out of here. That wasn't a total failure because she came back at 9 this morning for a great session, I love getting rid of morning wood that way.

The other flop was I chatted up a waitress at a restaurant I visited maybe a dozen times over the past year and she said she would go to my hotel with me when she got off. But when I went back 8 hours later she looked beat and it was 2 in the morning and actually I'm kind of glad she said she was too tired. * That may not turn out to be a total flop either because she is definitely still interested.

I have fucked regular girls more in the United States and here after knowing them for 5 minutes and I have some time set them up for years before the dirty deed was done. There seems to be no Rhyme or Reason or pattern to that for me.

A 500 average is actually pretty good for mongering because it's a slugging percentage and we're all trying to hit home runs.

I had a second session in El Centro with the tight little Vennie chica who I haven't named yet. She was phenomenal and she's in that sweet spot of just enough experience to be hawt as fuck but she's still young and doesn't know what she's got.

For example, she shared her breast milk again and that's definitely worth a valid upcharge, but that aspect of our little business deal never crossed her mind. Even better we got to bond a little bit over the discussion of her one-year-old son which is why she is still milking but she's not trying to glom on to me in any unnatural novio way. She is exactly right where I want her. We're waiting to get together at my hotel and I am going to offer her 150 mil plus taxi and the vibe I'm getting is that she will be more than happy with that but we'll see.

Obviously, the milking photos are of the hot Vinny chica and there's one photo of Hot Housewife in cut-offs. And several fotos of the perfect curves of Sexy Dexy's sweet ass.

Just like there's no crying in baseball, there's no whining allowed in mongering. Yesterday may not have been Stellar but as I've been often known to say, a bad day in Medellin beats a good day in the United States almost every time. Keep On Keepin' On!

Sent from my Galaxy.

[QUOTE=LoisSanborn;2607883]Feel like this has been answered before, but I forget if so. My friend pulled a chick from Gusto who agreed to 300 k at the club but changed her tune to 300 USD at the hotel. Obviously, he kicked her ass to the curb. But at this point it's already 4 am. Any other options available? Just curious for future reference. For me, my main focus is probably going to be earlier hour casas like new life, sandals, energa, loutron, etc and prebooked appts with fb chicas. I am interested in knowing what my options will be so I won't be left holding my dick como mi amigo.[/QUOTE]Girls go to Gusto to make money. They know this is where the inexperienced go to overpay for their jollies. I guess there is an irrestible attraction to going to a bar where every girl is available if you have the right price. The fact that they quote their price in dollars should tell you something. More experienced savvy visitors (and residents) don't spend their money in Gusto. There is an unlimited supply of FaceBook girls or other on-line escort agency girls or upscale casas or clubs where you can greatly improve the quality of experience you are buying and at a much more reasonable price. For the 300 USD you could have 5 high end FaceBook girls that are probably a lot better looking and a lot more pleasurable (I. E. Not so mercenary).

It just shocks the hell out of me that so many people know this board and yet still go to Gusto instead of the wealth of alternatives. If you just have to be a vacation millionaire and spend big sums of money there are a lot of Instagram models that would be happy to help you fund their retirement accounts.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2609378]It does not take the same time as an uber or taxi. Getting on a taxi or uber is much quicker and comfortable than a bus. Unless your goal is to be at El centro. In that case, I guess it doesn't matter.

I like to be comfortable and relaxed while being driven door to door to my apartment or hotel. After traveling so long to get to Medellin do you really care about the $18 or $17 saved? When you can relax in a car as compared to a crowded bus?

.[/QUOTE]Some due travel on a tight budget I guess, I am not a big spender but when I fly for over 7 or 10 hours I want to get to my hotel and no headaches.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2609414]Another title for this article could have been "Things you should have learned in 3rd Grade!

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]The newbies will absorb that info and hopefully be safe.

They say it's easier to get a puta to go to the dentist than it is to get her out in the rain, jaja. But I like a challenge so I headed down to El Centro umbrella in hand. Pickens were definitely slim. The rookie mistake was I definitely spotted one girl that would have been a wet dream for 90% of the guys on this board, a young tight but not too skinny Vennie with a nice just thick enough ass, beautiful face, average sized boobs, and I got a great Vibe on the most important part of all, her personality.

She spotted me too because she stepped out in the rain and crossed my path about 2 ft in front of me but like a dumb fuck I didn't follow her. I took my eyes off of her for 1 minute and I never saw her again.

If you see a hot one don't continue to do laps, don't make the rounds, don't go to the drugstore to buy lube, take her with you. Don't let her out of your sight. I can't tell you how many times when I was first starting out and yet again today like a dumbass, I would see a girl that I would die for but thought maybe the grass was still a little greener and would continue to do rounds and I would never see her again.

If you see a hot one go up and start talking to her right away you can change your mind after you get a feel for her personality but the really hot ones are not out there for long.

There is a smorgasbord of girls burning up my WhatsApp for tonight but I haven't seen my actual novia Catgiirl in a few days. She doesn't even know what hotel I'm in at the moment but I think I'll tell her and let her come over for a couple of nights. The problem is once she knows where I am I got to deal with the possibility of a surprise drop in but they won't let her through at the front desk if I tell them and after all she is my favorite, so why not? Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2609463]Girls go to Gusto to make money. They know this is where the inexperienced go to overpay for their jollies. I guess there is an irrestible attraction to going to a bar where every girl is available if you have the right price. The fact that they quote their price in dollars should tell you something. More experienced savvy visitors (and residents) don't spend their money in Gusto. There is an unlimited supply of FaceBook girls or other on-line escort agency girls or upscale casas or clubs where you can greatly improve the quality of experience you are buying and at a much more reasonable price. For the 300 USD you could have 5 high end FaceBook girls that are probably a lot better looking and a lot more pleasurable (I. E. Not so mercenary).

It just shocks the hell out of me that so many people know this board and yet still go to Gusto instead of the wealth of alternatives. If you just have to be a vacation millionaire and spend big sums of money there are a lot of Instagram models that would be happy to help you fund their retirement accounts.[/QUOTE]Thanks; fortunately, I for one am blessed with the ability of reading comprehension, which is why I specifically mentioned my other options like New life, zandaly, loutron and fb chicas. However, as I also mentioned, those are all day time / early night options and for fb you need to set up citas in advance. All I asked if there were any other night time options. I know gusto's is overpriced. I know lleras is overpriced. I'm all for fucking at casas and fucking fb chicas. I literally mentioned it in my post. As I mentioned, I'm with friends, and they're not into daytime fucking or scheduling appointments in advance. They just want to drink, get fucked up and grab a puta if they're feeling horny at the end of the night. I can still obviously fuck fb chicas and at casas when I'm not with them, but sometimes after a long night of partying, it's 3 am, I'm also horny as fuck, and have nothing set up in advance. All I asked is if there were any better late night options.

[QUOTE=LoisSanborn;2609532] if there were any better late night options.[/QUOTE]Well theres plenty of clubs in centro. Fraction of the price of gustos.

3 am. Wow, I am usually waking up in 3 or 4 hours, last thing I want is to take a girl at 3 am, haha. Each to their own. I struggle to stay awake for the clubs to open. No chance I am around when they close. Hehe.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2609378]It does not take the same time as an uber or taxi. Getting on a taxi or uber is much quicker and comfortable than a bus. Unless your goal is to be at El centro. In that case, I guess it doesn't matter.

I like to be comfortable and relaxed while being driven door to door to my apartment or hotel. After traveling so long to get to Medellin do you really care about the $18 or $17 saved? When you can relax in a car as compared to a crowded bus?.[/QUOTE]Exactly, it's crazy how some of these guys guilt trip / give shit to people for spending a few extra dollars for comfort and convenience.

[QUOTE=LoisSanborn;2609532]... All I asked if there were any other night time options. ... but sometimes after a long night of partying, it's 3 am, .... All I asked is if there were any better late night options.[/QUOTE]La Isla is still open at 3 am. You can continue until morning next door after La Isla is closed. The staff will invite you before it closes. The other is Faisan. Ask girls at Fase2 where do they go after the club closes.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2609027]You have any contact info for the preggo? Was she the only one or there was several?[/QUOTE]Do some reading. Post #48976.

Other Areas Post #769-771.

The numbers have dropped a little but weeks from now could return.

You assume that the guys that post the most know the most.

I know there are some guys that know a lot but never post. Wish I could meet some of them.

After a couple failed attempts, I finally made it to Medellin. This is how it went down.

The trip was planned very last minute. I made the flight and Airbnb reservation 2 days before I left. I wanted to stay at San Peter but no rooms available so I found an Airbnb in Poblado. $33 USD per night on a quiet street with 24 hour security. And I contacted the host and confirmed that chicas were allowed, just no more than 2 at a time. I thought it would be a little out of the way but I only paid $5 k to $15 k COP per trip for Uber or Indriver the entire trip.

FB worked better than I could've imagined. I spent the past couple of months building up a friends list of about 160. The day before I left I posted that I was coming the next day. I had about 10 women message me that first day. I posted again when I landed and had about 10 more message me. That was way more than enough for the 4 days I was able to be in town.

Day 1 - landed in afternoon, white taxi to poblado, quick trip to the market for supplies and I was ready to go. Had my first FB chica coming at 1700. At 1630 she texts me that she actually does not have a cedula which I had previously confirmed with her. The Airbnb host said it was a very strict policy that no one without cedula gets in (more on that in a minute). I was hoping this was not going to be indicative of how the trip was going to go. So I told her sorry about your luck and moved on to FB chica #2 who arrived at 1900. Luciana, 21 year old spinner with braces from Medellin. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, stayed a couple of hours 150 k mas taxi.

Day 2- Slept in til 1100, lunch at some place near the airbnb but I didn't write down the name because it was just average. Headed to Zandaly at 1400. About 10 girls in the lineup. I tried to do what I had read on the forum. I didn't go for the one I thought was the hottest. I chose the one that gave me the best smile during the intro. Her name was Aleja or something like that, she had dyed red hair. 50 k for 30 min. I asked for BBBJ for propina and she said 50 k more. I said no thanks. She then said 30 k, and well, I can't pass up a bargain. It was a meh session. Her body was fun but her attitude did not match the smile she had given me. Walked around a bit but had another FB chica coming at 1900 so headed back to the airbnb but stopped for cigars at Habanos point. The guy working was nice but the selection was small and not worth the price in my opinion.

Yuriza showed up at 1915. From Bello and very sexy. I feel like that was true for every chick I met from Bello. Anyhow she arrives and upon entering informs me that she actually does not have a cedula. You've got to be f*cking kidding me. I had confirmed with her in our conversation and she had definitely said yes. So the security guard tells her she can't come in. She starts sweet talking him and they are having a conversation (which I of course don't understand) but 3 minutes later he says go ahead but just make sure you walk her out. Not what I expected and what I should have done was just kicked her out. Instead we go up and have a couple drinks and after carefully reviewing her FB and IG I was convinced enough she was 18 to let her stay. I know it was a bad idea. It (probably) won't happen again. She was great though. Started off slow but after DATY and she came it was game on. DFK, BBBJ, lots of energy with multiple positions. 150 k mas taxi.

Day 3- Went out in the AM and got my Covid test from a place called Unigem. 90 k and had my result in my email in a couple hours. Another FB chica Mariana showed up around 1300. Another petite spinner paisa (I have a type) Said she was 24 but looked younger. Was a little bummed when she started sniffling after she arrived and clearly had a runny nose. She said it was from walking home in the rain the night before. Maybe, but I wasn't taking any chances. Well, not as many chances so no DFK or DATY but I could not pass up BBBJ. She had a gorgeous booty and the dancing and grinding was excellent. She only stayed about 90 min because I was done with her possibly contaminated ass.

In the evening met up with BM SankarShetty and he showed me the area around San Peter and we grabbed some dinner with his girl. She left and we checked out a casa near San Peter but it was no bueno. He was beat and called it quits for the night so I grabbed an Uber over to La Isla. Got there around 2300 there were probably at least 60 women there. There was a big party going on in the back. At least half of the women were back there and a ton of dudes. They were throwing money up in the air, the women were cheering. I was talking to a guy at the bar. He was from Bogota but spoke some English and he said he thought they were either into drugs or music. Either way they threw around a lot of money. I stayed a couple hours, drank a couple 30 k coronas and got a couple numbers but just couldn't bring myself to spend the 300 k for 45 minutes. There were loads of beautiful women but just not worth it IMO.

Day 4- Met up with SS again and he took me on a lap in Centro, through Botero and around the back of the church. We checked out the lineups at New Life, Zandaly, Aiffe and Club Sexy de Amigas. Found a cute little thing at Club Sexy named Hilary. This time I went with the one I thought was the hottest and it worked out great. She had a great attitude. CBJ, DFK, many positions. 80 k for an hour and she gave me a good workout. Got her number and will probably repeat.

Met up with SS again in the evening at Parque Lleras right around midnight. Holy f*ck what a sight. Walked inside a couple of the clubs. Talked to some chicas on the street. Met a couple 19 year old Vennie beauties. They originally asked 400 k each but ended up taking 200 k. Taxi to a love motel and had an average session. Not bad, not great. Not worth reporting.

Day 5- Needed to leave for the airport at 1100. Had a FB chica coming at 0900. We had been trying to arrange something since the first day but she takes classes and it just hadn't worked out. But I sure as shit am glad it did on the last day. This was the best cita of the entire trip. She was total GFE. DFK, DATY, BBBJ, 69 with deepthroat, gagging, saliva dripping, ball licking. My gawd. She would've done BBFS but I choose not to with anyone. Plus she was just cool as hell. She pulled out a joint but I don't partake. She walked out at 1050 right as I got the text from the taxi that he was waiting outside. I will absolutely see her again.

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I went to another cigar shop at some point called La Cava Puro. Much better selection and prices. They have a house brand of cigar which was fantastic.

Many thanks to all the BM's for the valuable info. Hopefully I have contributed something in return. I'm already trying to figure out how to arrange my life to get back to Colombia as soon as possible.

Yesterday there were protest marches in several areas in the city. Areas in Belen and aranhuej had some damage due to riots. La linea was present. Cops stopping vehicles and motos all over the town and checking IDs. Be careful out there.

Check the link and there are videos all over the face book.

[URL]https://m.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/disturbios-en-belen-por-choques-entre-policia-y-manifestantes-DE15779569[/URL]

I know we pay them to leave but first of all I don't pay Catgirl, directly. She is my Numero Uno Paisa Novia and I spend ten times more money on her then any puta, willingly. Waking up next to her is one of the best feelings I get in the world.

Point a camera at her and she will strike a pose. She is sporting that shorts set that I bought her in El Centro the other day for under five bucks.

The one photo is a friendly reminder on the excellent ROI from purchasing a cheap mirror, if you are here for any length of time and are having girls over at your place. I know it sounds crazy to some of you, but don't knock it until you've tried it. I've never seen a feminine culture more obsessed with selfies and mirrors that the Colombianas. Don't try to figure it out just accept it that's not a negative thing and you will be rewarded.

My phone is inserting the asterisks ** and I'm too lazy to remove them.

[QUOTE=LoisSanborn;2609532]Thanks; fortunately, I for one am blessed with the ability of reading comprehension, which is why I specifically mentioned my other options like New life, zandaly, loutron and fb chicas. However, as I also mentioned, those are all day time / early night options and for fb you need to set up citas in advance. All I asked if there were any other night time options. I know gusto's is overpriced. I know lleras is overpriced. I'm all for fucking at casas and fucking fb chicas. I literally mentioned it in my post. As I mentioned, I'm with friends, and they're not into daytime fucking or scheduling appointments in advance. They just want to drink, get fucked up and grab a puta if they're feeling horny at the end of the night. I can still obviously fuck fb chicas and at casas when I'm not with them, but sometimes after a long night of partying, it's 3 am, I'm also horny as fuck, and have nothing set up in advance. All I asked is if there were any better late night options.[/QUOTE]There's an easy solution. Pick a few Facebook girls, pay them taxi to and from Parque Lleras and ask them to come drinking and dancing with you and your friends, with an agreed upon price if anyone wants to take one back to the room. You pay more for drinks and taxis, but you don't have to deal with girls quoting prices in dollars.

If you pick one girl and ask her to bring some friends, you only pay for 1 taxi.

[QUOTE=JohnHancock11;2609655]After a couple failed attempts, I finally made it to Medellin. This is how it went down.

The trip was planned very last minute. I made the flight and Airbnb reservation 2 days before I left. I wanted to stay at San Peter but no rooms available so I found an Airbnb in Poblado. $33 USD per night on a quiet street with 24 hour security. And I contacted the host and confirmed that chicas were allowed, just no more than 2 at a time. I thought it would be a little out of the way but I only paid $5 k to $15 k COP per trip for Uber or Indriver the entire trip.

FB worked better than I could've imagined. I spent the past couple of months building up a friends list of about 160. The day before I left I posted that I was coming the next day. I had about 10 women message me that first day. I posted again when I landed and had about 10 more message me. That was way more than enough for the 4 days I was able to be in town.[/QUOTE]Looks like you enjoyed your 5 days here can you just imagine what it is like as I now have lived in Medellin for 5 years, god and me only knows that it is non-stop fun and am still building up steam and rolling faster and faster.

Yes I too like that cigar lounge, good selection and the house cigar is damn good!

Yesterday I had some shopping to do, looking for a special exercise device which I found in a sports shop on Junin in centro.

As it was raining yesterday I wanted to get out of the rain so hopped into Aromina Spa in centro, saw the so-so line up of about a dozen chicas ranging from a 4 to a solid 7 and so choose a mid 20 something vennie, 70 mil for an hour and actually enjoyed my time with her, very sweet and warm as we laid cuddled up for the first 15 minutes just warming our bodies up with the cold rainy weather right outside. Gave her a little tip as she was the perfect fix for the Tall Man on this somewhat cold afternoon.

Now today, as it unfolds, which paisa or Vennie will receive my good loving is yet to be seen. That is the fun of living here and not having any thing or anyone to drag you down, just live and let live.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Balimassage;2256364]Anyone know any gals that can DT? Send me a PM or share with the team. Love the Colombian ladies but BJ's don't seem to be their forte.[/QUOTE]Any new intel in this area? I'm back and looking for some awesome head!

Tweaked my back in the gym a few days ago, it's been a pain.

Tried using the search function for almost an hour as I know this has been discussed ad infinitum, but no results haha.

So anyone know any good massage places that really get in there? Not just the fake oil massages at casas jajaja.

Happy ending preferable but not required LOL!

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2609640]You know nothing yet your starting point for newbies is the most expensive and the most dangerous. Consider yourself drugged and robbed. No, I will not explain. Do some research.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

I've read more and have learned of the dangers. I'll probably stick to the casas because you can negotiate BBBJ's. Then expand from there as I am here longer.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2609818]Tweaked my back in the gym a few days ago, it's been a pain.

Tried using the search function for almost an hour as I know this has been discussed ad infinitum, but no results haha.

So anyone know any good massage places that really get in there? Not just the fake oil massages at casas jajaja.

Happy ending preferable but not required LOL![/QUOTE]The places in Centro Comercial Rio Sur do a good job with the massage and happy ending is available. If it's still there, there was a sports massage place on one of the streets between Parque Poblado and Parque Lleras. I think it was 2 blocks east of Avenida Poblado close to Calle 9.

I've seen a lot of posts about prearranging meet ups via making Facebook friends.

When going down that route, what search criteria do you use to start? As a Facebook ludite, I'm not too save on that platform.

From what I'm reading, there been a lot of success with cute girls at today's rates.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2609818]Tweaked my back in the gym a few days ago, it's been a pain.

Tried using the search function for almost an hour as I know this has been discussed ad infinitum, but no results haha.

So anyone know any good massage places that really get in there? Not just the fake oil massages at casas jajaja.

Happy ending preferable but not required LOL![/QUOTE]Sports Massage Medellin.

Cra 42 # 9 - 13, Parque poblado, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.

Glad I missed that! Just arrived today. Traffic was light compared to normal. No issues that I saw coming in from Las Palmas, through San Diego area and on to Laureles. Hope the protests are short-lived. All is well in my area at the moment.

[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2609740]Yesterday there were protest marches in several areas in the city. Areas in Belen and aranhuej had some damage due to riots. La linea was present. Cops stopping vehicles and motos all over the town and checking IDs. Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the tips everyone, if I try any of them out I'll report back on how it went.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2609640]No there are no good late night options. Contact any girl from any source. Even ones you have known for years. They, like all women around the world, will be an hour or more late and that is if they show up at all. You want to wait for someone that is going to be late if they even show up all at 1:00 am?

The correct way is to hunt and get your rocks off early so you can relax. Maybe even recharge and have a second one late at night after drinking.

Let us recap. So you and your buddies came to Colombia to drink which you could do at home or even in your closet if you choose to do so? You would prefer to drink with your friends rather than have sex with a hot young 20 something your old? You stated "IF they are feeling horny at the end of the night". You fools have your priorities all messed up! I would find new friends! Sounds like kids that prioritize games or alcohol over women. I am disgusted.[/QUOTE]You're absolutely right. Since I've been here, I've really come to understand how much time and money I've wasted not fucking working girls. I could've got more. If I made more money. Heh. I threw away so much money. You have no idea. I didn't do enough putas. My car. Why did I keep my car? Ten putas right there. Ten more putas. That bottle of vodka at the club. Two spinners. It was grey goose. Two more spinners. Could have gotten two more spinners for it. At least one. Would have gotten one more. One more creampie. For this. I could've gotten one more person, and I didn't. I'm disgusted with myself.

Anyways, besides Lleras chicas, I've started lining up some incalls from Pasion. One annoying thing is that whenever I message them, they almost always have taken a full day before a first response. I'm booking 2 hrs which needs some time in advance for scheduling reasons, but I'll report back when I see how those go. Also checked out jade spa for sheer convenience to Poblado. Not that many options, only 3 chicas when I went in and pretty mediocre overall. You also do it this narrow massage table, which is pretty uncomfortable. However, at least you get the massage for the full time allotted even after the deed is done, which for me was an hour for 160 k. I would probably only ever go back for the convenience.

I think the alcohol and partying phase is done, regardless Those constant hard nights seem to have worn on my compatriots as well. One unfortunate side effect is that I've just moved to Loma verde apartments, which I've found out is guest unfriendly. They explicitly state no prostitution, and while I doubt it is enforced, they do have a guest limit of 4, total. That is, you and three other guests who are registered are allowed in your room, and any more new guests past that costs 100 k each. So in theory you can bring up to 3 chicas and keep rotating between those three each night. I'm probably just going to start directing fb chicas to a love motel to meet up at, though. Would rather minimize the opportunity for anyone with sticky fingers to nab my stuff anyway.

[QUOTE=LoisSanborn;2609939] I'm probably just going to start directing fb chicas to a love motel to meet up at, though. Would rather minimize the opportunity for anyone with sticky fingers to nab my stuff anyway.[/QUOTE]It sucks waiting at your own hotel or apartment for a girl who will most likely be late or not show. Now you are going to wait at a love hotel? That would really suck. I have never done the Facebook chicks. Not sure how responsive they will be to meeting or having their "date" at a love hotel. What would go through your mind if she did not want to meet at your "nice" place but rather a "love" hotel. She may see red flags. I would because that is not normal.

Faster and easier to go to a casa / spa or Centro. Just grab and go. If she is not good then little money is lost and you can grab the next one minutes later to take for a test drive. PM me and I can take you to Zandaly and New Life. Visit both and only takes 1 hour. You should be able to find one you like.

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2609836]I've seen a lot of posts about prearranging meet ups via making Facebook friends.

When going down that route, what search criteria do you use to start? As a Facebook ludite, I'm not too save on that platform.

From what I'm reading, there been a lot of success with cute girls at today's rates.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of guys here with much more FB experience than I, but mine is recent so I'll tell you what has worked for me. I'm going to assume you have already started by creating a secondary account or you plan on just using your main account. This post is not about how to get started. There are other excellent posts in the forum about that and I'm sure you can find them. I'm just too lazy to look right now jaja.

Once you have established the account you can't just start friend requesting every chick in Medellin. FB will shut you down fast. That's what happened with the 1st secondary account I opened. I limit mine to 10-12 requests a day at most. I've read that other BM's have done more but I'm not trying to draw attention. There are posts in this forum that have names of chicas to use to get started. Those are gold. Once you've gotten your first 10 friends or so it gets much easier. Facebook will start making suggestions almost immediately. These are not always good but occasionally they get it right. I do some additional research which I'll get to in a minute. Look at the people who have liked the posts of the friends you already have. You will quickly learn to spot 2 types of people. 1 is other mongers and those are fairly obvious from the profiles. 2 is other prepagos. Eventually you run into someone who has an "open" friends list (some with thousands of names) and then it's just shooting fish in a barrel. But even then I do some homework.

These are the things I look at every time. Where do they live? This is almost always front and center. I open up the About Info. What is the age? Most have birthdays listed, some have the years they were born. Many will have single in relationship status. Also in About info, what are their likes and who do they follow. Next I look at photos. So many of them have revealing pics that make it quite obvious what they are looking for. Are there mutual friends? That's another good sign. Most importantly in my opinion, how recent are the posts. If their most recent post is more than 3 months old, don't bother. I won't send a request without a post from the past 30 days. The ones that will accept will be active and posting regularly. I can look through the entire profile and make a decision in 15-20 seconds.

I currently have 160 friends and 190 outstanding requests, 45% success rate by my count. It could probably be higher but I won't put a picture of my face in the profile. I have been told by two women that they would not accept my friend request without a picture. I told them if it ever happens that we are going to meet I will gladly send a pic over Whatsapp. I have a general distrust of FB but it is a great tool.

In Colombia, money equals love. Or Love equal Money, it doesn't matter which way you go with it. The sooner you accept it the happier you will be. I am by no means suggesting that more money equals More Love but proportional to what she perceives you can give will be interpreted as the amount of love you have for her, if that even matters to you. Feel free to file this post under useless shit or maybe even Stupid Shit here.

Fotos are all from the past 12 hours. Cat girl was grooming our dog in our hotel room We snuck Lia in a red D1 bag, jaja, thanks again Villainy. The close-up of Catgirl kissing our dog is a good shot of her incredible flaxen hair.

I have not named Catgirl's new Novia yet but they are scarily alike in appearance and personality. We were having drinks at a typical Colombian al fresco bar and Catgirl was chucking marshmallow candies into her novia's mouth with a surprisingly High success rate. The sexual innuendo is too obvious to mention except that I already did. When I showed New Novia the photo of her open mouth I made a jack-off motion with my hand and they both laughed.

Unfortunately, I got a little sloppy and Cat Girl saw Scarlet leaving the elevator in my hotel lobby and then again on my phone in a foto of her giving me a blowjob earlier in the day so she left in the middle of the night, angry.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2609915]Glad I missed that! Just arrived today. Traffic was light compared to normal. No issues that I saw coming in from Las Palmas, through San Diego area and on to Laureles. Hope the protests are short-lived. All is well in my area at the moment.[/QUOTE]FYI, ColombiaLover your DMs are full. I get in to Medellin today and will be in country for a few weeks if anyone wants to grab a drink or check out some action.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2609550]Exactly, it's crazy how some of these guys guilt trip / give shit to people for spending a few extra dollars for comfort and convenience.[/QUOTE]The thing is the OP specifically asking for bus, not taxi or which one is better. So other members with actual experience are giving feedback. What is wrong with that? If someone wants to be helpful, he can offer his actual experience on both taxi and bus for the OP to decide.

As long as the information is not misleading. In this case MrEnternational makes it sound like the time to go to el centro and then drag your bags to a taxi to go to Poblado takes the same amount of time as going direct. That is not true at all. The OP may not know all their options if rhey haven’t been to Medellin before

[QUOTE=Nounce;2610151]The thing is the OP specifically asking for bus, not taxi or which one is better. So other members with actual experience are giving feedback. What is wrong with that? If someone wants to be helpful, he can offer his actual experience on both taxi and bus for the OP to decide.[/QUOTE].

Girl on your left. Girl on your right. Girls on bed. Girls in washroom. Impressed with your skills champion enjoy brother.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2610059]In Colombia, money equals love. Or Love equal Money, it doesn't matter which way you go with it. The sooner you accept it the happier you will be. I am by no means suggesting that more money equals More Love but proportional to what she perceives you can give will be interpreted as the amount of love you have for her, if that even matters to you. Feel free to file this post under useless shit or maybe even Stupid Shit here.

Fotos are all from the past 12 hours. Cat girl was grooming our dog in our hotel room We snuck Lia in a red D1 bag, jaja, thanks again Villainy. The close-up of Catgirl kissing our dog is a good shot of her incredible flaxen hair.

I have not named Catgirl's new Novia yet but they are scarily alike in appearance and personality. We were having drinks at a typical Colombian al fresco bar and Catgirl was chucking marshmallow candies into her novia's mouth with a surprisingly High success rate. The sexual innuendo is too obvious to mention except that I already did. When I showed New Novia the photo of her open mouth I made a jack-off motion with my hand and they both laughed.

Unfortunately, I got a little sloppy and Cat Girl saw Scarlet leaving the elevator in my hotel lobby and then again on my phone in a foto of her giving me a blowjob earlier in the day so she left in the middle of the night, angry.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2610176]As long as the information is not misleading. ... then drag your bags to a taxi ...[/QUOTE]My experience is different. Even without help, you basically stand right where you are to catch the taxi. Do you speak from your own personal experience that this actually happened to you?

I am just saying my experience does not negate yours and vice versa.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2610176]As long as the information is not misleading. In this case MrEnternational makes it sound like the time to go to el centro and then drag your bags to a taxi to go to Poblado takes the same amount of time as going direct. That is not true at all. The OP may not know all their options if rhey havent been to Medellin before .[/QUOTE]San Diego is not El Centro! From the airport to Poblado is 33 minutes. From the airport to San Diego is 33 minutes. From San Diego to Poblado is 9 minutes. From the airport to El Centro is 40 minutes. From El Centro to Poblado is 22 minutes.

There are two buses. One goes to San Diego and one goes to El Centro. The OP was talking about taking the bus 33 minutes to San Diego and then taking a taxi 9 minutes to Poblado. He will save $18 for spending a mere 10 more minutes of his time. Sure $18 is nothing to you, but it will get me a day and a half stay at my hotel in El Centro. And when I go to Medellin it is usually just a a short flight from Bogota. I have not been traveling 7 hours and anxious and tired. I don't get that way regardless.

I would always take the bus from the airport to Copacabana in Rio, the bus from the airport in Bangkok to Pattaya, and the bus from the airport in Manila to Angeles City. If it is going to take me relatively the same time then I am going with the cheaper option when convenient. Now if I go and see there is a wait of 30 minutes or 1 hour for the bus then I will just take the taxi.

After Much cajoling I'm Headed to Meddy On Tuesday for a couple of weeks.

Although I have made some contacts I'm down to have a few cold ones with whoever's in town. This is basically a recon for a possible move to Meddy.

I'm also looking for a good outdoor store in Medellin the one's in Cali are limited.

Thanks PM's are Open.

Trip.

Hi everyone,

Well this will be my second trip to Medellin I plan to hit San Andreas as well with a friend and her GF so it will be a decent time. Does anyone have any "spots" that are a must in San Andreas or is it mainly just a beach town. Also I will be in Medellin for Halloween what can I expect? Crazy parties I went earlier in March so I dealt with restrictions and curfew but still had an amazing time so I am excited to go back with everything being open.

[QUOTE=JohnHancock11;2610033]There are plenty of guys here with much more FB experience than I, but mine is recent so I'll tell you what has worked for me. I'm going to assume you have already started by creating a secondary account or you plan on just using your main account. This post is not about how to get started. There are other excellent posts in the forum about that and I'm sure you can find them. I'm just too lazy to look right now jaja.

[/QUOTE]Excellent advice all the way around. I think anyone would do well to follow all of but I have a little different experience. Your success rate is a lot better so you may be somehting better than I. My success rate is more like one 15% or 25% percent although that got better once the pandemic set in. Right now I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 2500 contacts but I cannot tell whether they are all prostitutes, whether some are duplicates, etc etc

I am not sure that the rate you send out requests matters as much as A) sending too many requests to people you have no mutual friends with and B) just the overall number of unanswered friend request you send out. Facebook stopped me from sending out any once I reached 1000 unanswered request until I deleted some of them.

I have had certain FB "privliges" suspended for my aggressive clicking on profiles before when I was starting out. But I am betting that I probably clicked though hundreds before this happened. And FB thinks at that point you must be a bot because why would a human be clicking through that many profiles in one setting. So that point when I go to click on a new profile a message pops up about 'community standards' blah blah and I am unable to click on profiles for like two days. Even my friends.

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2609836]I've seen a lot of posts about prearranging meet ups via making Facebook friends.

When going down that route, what search criteria do you use to start? As a Facebook ludite, I'm not too save on that platform.

From what I'm reading, there been a lot of success with cute girls at today's rates.[/QUOTE]When you say at "todays rates" I am confused about what you mean. In general FB girls are way more expensive than SWs in Centro, even with the rate increases that some BMs have been discussing, but about the same as SWs in say Lleras or even cheaper if you pick an average looing chica and negotiate. Still though the cheapest FB chica at about 150 k is about 5 times what the highest rate I read is being quoted in Centrol.

I like FB for the convienince and the abilty to choose the chicas I am going to hook up with days or even weeks in adavance. But there is a price to be paid for FB chicas.

John Hancock said good things about what to look for in a post to see if a chica may be a prepago, I just want to add a few things. Like JohnHancock said, most times you have to look through the chicas photos list, hardly ever does the proile photo or cover photo give anything away. Some prepagos have a tell tell photo of them in their underwear. Some chicas have a photo of cash money. Some chicas have some version of the the devils horn, either the devil emoji, a silhoette of a horned she-devil or horns somehow photshopped their own head in a photo. Sometimes they do not have any obvious photos at all. And you have to guess from how many of thier friends are either prepagos or if they have gringo friends. If a chica really interests me I amy just pop off a message and ask her straight out if she spends time with gringos for money - then worry about specifics later.

Like JohnHancock said you start resourcing from known monger or prepago friends lists and I would add that you also need to find your own way to be systematic, I have had BMs say it is like going down the rabbit hole because they click on one profile and see something interesting so they click on another profile in that profile etc and then forget even where they started. I use the bookmark system in the browser, if I find an interesting profile that may have pregagos in their friends list, before I click on another profile in that profile's list of friends. I bookmark the profile so I can come back to it etc etc.

There are at least a few prepagos and a few mongers in the list of friends in this strip club. Your best bet us to look at the gringos and see who has an open list of friends. Happy Hunting to you and the 500 hundred lurkers reading this.

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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2610336]Excellent advice all the way around. I think anyone would do well to follow all of but I have a little different experience. Your success rate is a lot better so you may be somehting better than I. My success rate is more like one 15% or 25% percent although that got better once the pandemic set in. Right now I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 2500 contacts but I cannot tell whether they are all prostitutes, whether some are duplicates, etc etc

I am not sure that the rate you send out requests matters as much as A) sending too many requests to people you have no mutual friends with and B) just the overall number of unanswered friend request you send out. Facebook stopped me from sending out any once I reached 1000 unanswered request until I deleted some of them..[/QUOTE]All good stuff, but there's one thing that you have overlooked in the price comparison, something almost everyone seems to miss. The rate in El Centro is usually for 30 minutes or less and there's usually an additional charge for the room. I've never had a Facebook girl stay for less than an hour, and quite often they're with me for 2 hours or more. So it's not 30-50 k compared to 150-200 k. When you adjust for the amount of time spent the price is close to the same. And you are probably spending the time in a much nicer room.

Of course, if you have no interest in spending more time with a girl than the bare minimum necessary, it wouldn't make sense to pay for a girl who will stick around for 2 hours.

Someone else questioned about waiting around for girls, or taking them to a love motel. I've never had a problem with taking girls to love motels. I've had several pick me up along the way to go to a motel. However, I have usually used Motel Ibiza, and once they see the room they don't want to leave.

As far as women being late, I found an easy solution. If I want her to show up at 6 pm, I'll tell her 5 or 5:30. By 6:15 they're at my door.