Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

Not unusual. I met many girls and several had chaperones, but my mongering was kept separate from my "meetings".

Had a friend who ditched a girl for her chaperone cousin, LOL.

I’m continuing this here because it seems to belongs here rather than the Angeles site.** If you are using online sites you will likely find girls all over the map…including Filipinas in Hong Kong. Some sites I know of: 2mu in AC, Cherry Blossom, Filipinaheart, Euro???, Friendfinder. Please feel free to add to the list, I’m sure there are hundreds of places. You can also do Yahoo member search by area, but I haven’t had much luck there. Quite a few of the yahoo ladies I dug up never replied. Probably middle-class types who already have boyfriends.

**BTW, does this topic deserve its own thread? It would be nice to share notes. We could also swap profile info if we are subscribed to different services. I’ve been at Cherry Blossom, but may soon discontinue.

Reading the posts in the AC thread:
Junior, what do you mean when you say, “hence, thats why a majority of guys (who visit online friends in PI) are rather old.” I don’t understand the cause / effect relationship.

Raspewtin, I generally agree with the three categories you have presented, but I can think of a few others. Here’s one:
Ladies who want you to send them money, sometimes known as scammers. Many are extremely good looking and willing to show some skin…for a price. Don’t send money and don’t get your hopes up to high when you get in-country.

Ace of S, it doesn’t bother me that they chat with many people (I do), but it bothers me when they are chatting with many people at the same time and they are on cam. I guess it’s a jealousy thing. You say that most seem like scammers, but that’s not my experience. Where are you meeting all these scammers?.

X

Online

A while back someone asked about success rates for non pros that I met online. Since I had a very small statistical sample, I was worried that the success rate I gave may have been an exaggeration. I think I said something like 50%. Having just returned from the Philippines, I can say that after sampling a larger group (pun intended) 50% still seems valid. Out of five ladies I met face-to-face, I had sex with three of them – all three on the first night, although one of them made me wait for the second night before there was insertion (she claimed to be a virgin). As for the two I didn’t score with, I didn’t try. In fact, I didn’t really try with one of the girls I scored with, but she knew what she wanted. There were two additional women who wasted my time, but I never met face-to-face.

Does anyone want to hear the boring details?

*** disclaimer: I do not know for sure if all these girls were truly non-pro. I have my doubts about at least one of them. I gave about 500 for transportation money to two of them. One asked "what for" and the other just took it. Both wanted to spend more time with me. The "virgin" spent several days with me and she got a 2000 peso budget in addition to the fact that I covered all expenses. She tried to give it back to me on the last day.

[quote=X Man]Junior, what do you mean when you say, “hence, thats why a majority of guys (who visit online friends in PI) are rather old.” I don’t understand the cause / effect relationship. [/quote]

[B]X Man[/b]

I have been at this corresponding business for twenty odd years, but as I have pointed out that when I begun it was via air mailed letters, however, from my experience of these on-line sites that you have mentioned [size=1](it would be useful to others if you put in hyper-links)[/size]

[b][u]The Cause[/u][/b]

You will find that many of these guys who are chatting to these younger prettier girls, all claim to be:

(a) handsome, some claim to look like Brad Pritt, Tom Crusie or a younger version of George Clooney.

(b) rich, and many claim to earn six figured salaries work for large major companies and hold positions of power. Not only that many of these guys also claim that they can get these girls high paying jobs in their countries at the drop of a hat.

(c) well travelled, and are constantly travelling the world and will soon be in their neighbourhood to meet these girls.


[b][u]The Effect[/u][/b]

Many of these girls believe this bullshit, and all the rest of the excuse for a while and become a bit too selective about who or whom they wish to correspond with because after all which sounds better having a guy that’s handsome, rich and is a frequent fl(liar) always on business or having some average guy who boasts to be none of these things?

The reality is that in my experience and I know that this was backed up by a census that was carried in Thailand a few years ago, was that something like 90% of the guys that were actually arriving there were aged 40+. Hence that is why I say the only people travelling to the Philippines tend to be the old or the bold one who do travel. This is no big deal really but for any guy who is serious about seeking a wife from the Philippines I would suggest you actually go there ASAP, if you start corresponding with decent girls before all these other guys fuck her brain up with their sweet sounding lies.

[b][u]My Experience [/u][/b]

If you had time I could really tell you some interesting stories, but just a quick one, I have a good friend from Cebu who is one of the original girls I used to correspond with, she is now married and has two kids and live with an ex-serviceman in one of the Midwestern states, I keep in touch with her family and we still exchange Christmas cards.

I actually wrote to about thirty girls at that time, but I actually used to travel to Cebu, I recall one girl who was in the province of Cebu, who after writing for a while sent me a letter saying she had met some handsome guy and was going to marry him and live in his country. I visited Cebu, six weeks later and would hire a taxi for half a day to drive me to the provinces to actually knock on these girls doors, just to say hello. As I was passing her [i]Baranguy[/i] (village) I stopped and with some difficulty actually found her home because there are no formal streets as you would find in other countries.

So I went into see her and was surprised at her because she was OK, nice body ([i] I’d fuck it[/i]) face was average, I can only guess the photo she sent me originally was when she was much younger and fresh faced. What I discovered was that one, she couldn’t speak English very well, had little formal education and shock and horror she was not the one writing letters to me, it was her cousin – who was a GUY(?) Spent and hour at her home, speaking through her cousin and left, even the taxi driver was surprised by her and then tried to offer me a cousin of his who as a real college girl and beautiful. I am in Cebu for two weeks, and two days later I had visited Toledo with my friend’s family as I like seeing the countryside left early in the morning came back at around 8pm. I walk into my hotel and this girl is waiting for me with a female cousin or friend, are waiting for me in the lobby, turns out they had been waiting for me since early afternoon.

Anyway my friend mother and father are with me and intervened, being Filippino-Chinese they are very protective of their guest. The jest of it was this girl had travelled and waited all day and really wanted to be with me and says its too late to go home now, can they stay in my room. My friend’s mother says stuff, in Tagalog with arm movements and raised voices and basically (I am assuming here [i]get the fuck back home you w-h-o-r-e![/i], they never gave me a translation) gets her purse out gives her some money and send them on their way home. For the rest of the time I was there this girl was calling the hotel every day, leaving messages saying she wanted to meet me, and this way before the mobile revolution, then when I left was writing saying she wanted to be with me, she loved me and wanted to marry me, or rather I should clarify and say her male cousin was still writing the letters. I did write back once and told her I was getting married, thinking that would be the end of it. But about a year later she writes back asking if I am still married and that she still wants me etc, and send me some revealing photos in a bikini, taken in a studio, which as most of you already know girls from the provinces do not readily wear bikinis.

That is only one story but I have hundreds, if only I had time.


[size=1] X Man I suggest you write to Jackson asking for a specific thread for online dating and web chats discussion.[/size]

X-MAN,

I have met them in various chat rooms. Typically, the girl will claim she is in love with me in just a few days and then ask for money. At that point, I don't bother talking to them anymore.

Junior:

I have been meaning to ask you about your experiance with FILIPINA outside the Philippines. For example, HK, KOREA, JAPAN or maybe even back in the States. Do you find them just as sweet as in their country or do you find them different?

If you wish to comment on adding a seperate thread for info regarding online encounters, you can do so at this location: Click on "All the Forums" and go to the bottom where you will find "Site Admin" and then click on "suggest new forums".

I posted this request:
Currently in the Philippines section there is a discussion about online dating and web chat encounters (in Angeles and Filipina threads). I think there is enough interest to creat a seperate thread for this growing method of meeting and wooing the objects of our affection -- without getting burned in the process.

X Man

[quote=Ace of Spades]I have been meaning to ask you about your experience with FILIPINA outside the Philippines. For example, HK, KOREA, JAPAN or maybe even back in the States. Do you find them just as sweet as in their country or do you find them different? [/quote]

[b] Ace of Spades[/b]

First off, I am not from the States, I am British but as you are Canadian and belong to the Commonwealth you will understand that here in the UK we don’t have many Filippinas. I have only ever seen one young guy (under 35) with a Filippina girlfriend or wife. Most of the Filippinas we tend to see here are aged 30+, former nurses and typically married to a much older guy of around 65+. In the UK there are many Indian girls because the Indian subcontinent is part of the Commonwealth. I don’t know why there are not many younger Filippinas in the UK, even my Swedish friend from Gothenburg commented that in her home city there were more young Filippinas compared to London; she was one of these Korean adopted by a Swedish family when Korea used to export their unwanted babies. I doubt the average Englishman on the street could make out the Filippino accent, whereas I could.

I have met sevral Filippinas who have visited London and through a friend of a friend I would be sent an e-mail asking if I could show this person around London and look after them, but only in the social sense not sexually. But these girls tend to be educated overseas and have wealthy parents who expect their daughters to marry a future Senator or even future President of the Philippines.These are for want of a better word “high maintenance”.

In other countries, in HK you have to frequent the malls on Sunday morning where all the Filippinas hang around on Hong Kong Island near the Star Ferry, for open air Sunday service. I once met a nice girl there by accident because she was starring at me so I started speaking to her she worked as a domestic. It’s a pity I was not in HK for long because I am certain I would have been tapping her ass.



[size=1][b]X Man[/b] – Can do, if you want to start that thread.[/size]

The reason why I asked is because I have had experiances with FILIPINA abroad where they been totally afraid of me, "stuck up" and had this funny atitude towards me like "at least I am not Black." I have seen this in TAIWAN, HONG KONG and even my own country where these girls think they are in DISNEYLAND doing the most undesireable work in a given country A friend of mine named CLANDESTINE on this board from the US has had the same experiance and on many different occasion.

I have concluded that the girls who can afford to go abroad and are NOT AVERAGE. They belong to the middle or upper classes in the Philippines. Hence, they can be very selective in who they talk to and require high maintenance as you have sugguested. These girls just ain't sweet and are too WESTERNIZED.

As for the UK, I believe as you indicated filipina would be coming as nurses and I believe hospitals would require extensive experiance before hiring them after graduation. So this might explain the lack of young fresh filipina there.

Just a couple of notes:

In Canada, Philippinos are curently hover around 3-4 of the highest number of immigrants brought in each year. Most of these immigrants gravitate to either Toronto or Vancouver. I read a recent report that said Toronto had a Philippino population of 150,000 in 2001. How do they get here? A large number come over on the care-giver program (become of live-in nanny for two years, then gain automatic status as permanent resident), but many also gain admittance on their own competence in skills or education. In short, to be an immigrant to Canada, these Philippinos must have skills, education and some money.

You can get into Canada on the care-giver program fairly easily (take note for mongers who want to bring their girlfriends). What is needed is a contract for employment and go through the gov't process. I can write a full report on the process if the community wants it. If they don't have this help from Canada, the philippina needs to pay an agency around $3-5,000 USD to basically line-up the job and file some papers. What a rip-off!

For any kind of immigration, they need education. Even the care-giver program requires around 2 years of college as this is equivalent to a high-school education in Canada. The upshot of this ramble is that the philippina in Canada is very different from what the mongers typically experience in The Phil. They have education and some access to capital.

Can you get a sweet Philippina in Hong Kong - absolutely!!! But you must remember that these women are not stupid. They know the score from either personal experience or that of their friends. Even the sorriest-looking expat can get a harem of girlfriends. The girls only have one day off per week. So, if you want to get crazy, you can have a grilfriend for each day of the week. In fact, I've known some men who have tried that (although it causes havoc on public holidays).

I hope this report has some value. It's early in the morning here in Canada and I'm a bit sleepy.

Cheers,
Tooch

These philippinas in HK have either had their heart-broken or have friends with stories. So, they have become very battle hardened and are not easily seduced. You can still seduce them, but it will take some time in many instances which is something a travelling monger does not have.

Hi Tooch,

Would you mind posting that care-giver report? Thinking of getting one myself in the near future. I was just in Manila for a month.

Thanks,
IB

I am adding this report here, as suggested by X Man.

Filipina Chat Sites, My Three Pesos

I joined a Filipina dating site a few weeks back, and my inbox has been absolutely flooded with girls from all over the PI who want to meet up. I have chatted with many, to the point where it sometimes occupies too much of my free time.

Meeting even a reasonable fraction of them is out of the question, as the duration of my trip to the PI in Feb will be 2 weeks, and I will only hit 3 destinations. But I will be one of the guys that actually travels the distance and meets a select few. Sounds like a great way to spend a holiday to me.

On the dating site, I have found a few real gems, a few wastes of time, and a couple of scary-looking trannies. However, in general, they all seem to fall into 3 distinct categories:

1. Very young and innocent young lovelies, who claim to be virgins (and likely are), and want Prince Charming to give them (and sometimes also their families) a better life.

2. Mid-twenties to early-thirties lovelies, who usually have kids and want Prince Charming to give them and their kids a better life.

3. Older and usually not-so-lovelies, that want a man with a pulse and at least a few bills in his wallet.

If I goes well, I may post a few highlights next month. As for the genuinely sweet ones, they will remain private.

Raz

Tooch:

I am also here in Canada. I am all ears. If you care to post your knowledge and details on the care-give angle, I would appreciate it greatly.

Raz

Non-Canadians, please ignore this post

HOW BRING YOUR FRIEND OVER TO CANADA FOR A NEW LIFE UNDER THE CARE-GIVER LIVE-IN PROGRAM

Eligibility for Care-Giver Program

She must satisfy these three criteria;
1) have the equivalent of a Cdn High School Education. This translates to 72 college credits in the Philippines
2) must have a basic speaking understanding of English (or French!) This is so they can function in society and can do a basic task like call 911 if necessary
3) they must have some proven skill/ability to take care of children/elderly. This means they have either six months of full-time training to do this OR they have experience being a nanny to children or a care-giver to the elderly. This means they must have been employed at this task. How Long? 12 months employment during the last three years, including six months of continuous employment with one employer.

How to get the process going;
She needs to have someone offering her a job and go through the paper process with Citizenship and Immigration Canada (please google website) This is a rather straight-forward process. In fact, they give you a kit for everything you need to do. They also have a help line. Of course, you can always go to an agency and pay $3-5,000, but that is not necessary if you hustle to find someone willing to "sign the contract" and fill-n some applications.

The important thing here is to have the job offer and go through the process whereby she cleared to come to Canada. She could theoretically come to Canada and never work for that person. She can always quit. She is able to stay in Canada for one year while looking for new employment. The good news is that she will find a job very easily.

Important Note: one of the requirements of the Care-Giver LIVE-IN program is that the nanny is supposed to live with her employer. However, I know many who have their own apartments and I very much doubt they will ever get caught.

Getting Permanent residency;
Once she has 24 months of accumulated residency in Canada (if she is unemployed during the period or she goes on vacation to the Philippines, this time is deducted), she may apply for an open work permit to work at any job -as well permanent residency. Permanent Residency is pretty much automatic. She can also apply to bring her family (husband and children if applicable) to Canada at that same time -which will be granted in time (about one year). From there, she will be able to apply for Canadian citizenship in three years (instead of the normal 5 years as she has already completed two years).

Time-Frame:

Because of the high volume of immigration applications from the Philippines, there will be wait of 8-12 months from the time the application is submitted before she arrives in Canada. If she come from another country like Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, Dubai, etc., then the waiting is drastically reduced. For example, it is usually only a four month wait from Hong Kong

Good Luck! I hope this inspires someone to help that special friend. I did this almost three years ago. My friend is now a permanent resident and I am glad I was able to help her change the quality of her life.

Cheers,
Tooch

You're a good man Tooch and thanks for the info. BTW, I'm also in Canada.

IB

Tooch
Thanks for posting the Info,A special friend of mine is also leaving for Canada this year under the program.Her papers are already with the embassy.But being non-resident Canadian,I had to have a friend in Toronto hire her.Cheers