American Politics

[quote=nyc expat]...obama has made some unfortunate mistakes most recently concerning building a mosque in the shadows of ground zero. this is a local issue to be decided by new york city. i am also disappointed bloomberg has mentioned the mosque is welcome in that area. wtf are they thinking?

in conclusion, fear mongers need to shut the f--- up. stop their propaganda so persons responsible to lead this nation can work to solve the serious situation and not use their energies to reply to media and political morons who imho are traitors. yes, there is freedom of speech but it's getting ludicrous and unacceptable all the negativity.[/quote]you can say what you want about bloomberg, but this mayor has balls, big ones. it's not the popular decision, but it's the right decision.

government needs to stay the fuck out of religion and private enterprise!

-helpmann :)

[QUOTE=Nyc Expat] ...
Obama has made some unfortunate mistakes most recently concerning building a mosque in the shadows of Ground Zero. This is a local issue to be decided by New York City. I am also disappointed Bloomberg has mentioned the mosque is welcome in that area. WTF are they thinking?
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Do not even think of building a church in Arab countries. In fact, just crossing the border with several bibles will bring you immediately in jail, on charges of "prozelitizing".
It took the Spaniards 700 years to boot the Arabs out. The war of religion is still going on ... and we are loosing it in Europe.
B.B.

[quote=nyc expat] ...
obama has made some unfortunate mistakes most recently concerning building a mosque in the shadows of ground zero. this is a local issue to be decided by new york city. i am also disappointed bloomberg has mentioned the mosque is welcome in that area. wtf are they thinking?
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a japanese friend recently made the following remark to me : "al qaeda did a horrible terrorist act in killing thousands of civilians at 9-11. the americans did worse at hiroshima, it was also a terrorist act of targetting civilians. if we japanese had won the war, we would have tried truman as a war criminal."
i was speechless ...
regards. b.b.

[quote=bimbo boy]a japanese friend recently made the following remark to me : "al qaeda did a horrible terrorist act in killing thousands of civilians at 9-11. the americans did worse at hiroshima, it was also a terrorist act of targetting civilians. if we japanese had won the war, we would have tried truman as a war criminal."
i was speechless ...
regards. b.b.[/quote]it's funny how your friend remembers history. the japanese partnered with hitler, started the war with the us with the bombing of pearl harbor, and invaded china and other neighboring countries killing over 20 million people (mostly civilians).

with over 200,000 deaths attributed to the hiroshima and nagasaki bombings, i think the japanese got off easy.

-helpmann :)

[QUOTE=Helpmann]It's funny how your friend remembers history. The Japanese partnered with Hitler, started the war with the US with the bombing of Pearl harbor, and invaded China and other neighboring countries killing over 20 million people (mostly civilians).

With over 200,000 deaths attributed to the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, I think the Japanese got off easy.

-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]
That's the problem with wars. Every side is certain to be right and to have God on his side.
Regards. :)

[QUOTE=Helpmann]You can say what you want about Bloomberg, but this mayor has balls, big ones. It's not the popular decision, but it's the right decision.

Government needs to stay the fuck out of religion and private enterprise!

-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]I agree with your first statement. Even though I don't want it built next to the World Trade Center, you have to respect freedom of Religion.

A agree partially with your second statement. America was built on free enterprise, but we all see what happens when greed and abuse run rampant.

How do we have a free society without controversy? We can't, but all we can expect is our leaders to stand up for basic rights.

[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]That's the problem with wars. Every side is certain to be right and to have God on his side.
Regards. :)[/QUOTE]

Religion does not play a part in the current situation in Afganistan for American military forces. However, the fanatics of the enemy have used religion for thousands of years to fight with hatred against anyone who does not believe in their life styles. Their religion battles will never end until the last religious, militant fanatic is buried.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]I agree with your first statement. Even though I don't want it built next to the World Trade Center, you have to respect freedom of Religion.

A agree partially with your second statement. America was built on free enterprise, but we all see what happens when greed and abuse run rampant.

How do we have a free society without controversy? We can't, but all we can expect is our leaders to stand up for basic rights.[/QUOTE]I am not "thrilled" with the idea of a mosque near Ground Zero, but freedom of religion is a Constitutional right. To start denying certain Americans their Constitutional rights is the start down a slippery slope.

BTW, I am not "thrilled" with fat ugly chicks living next to me either, but fat ugly chicks have rights too.

-Helpmann :)

[quote=nyc expat]the previous poster and dj 4 money on another thread has bought up some isues that again are misleading. the national average u.s. unemployment rate is hovering around 9½% although it is higher in some regions f.ex. in fl. around 11-12%. i believe it is even higher in regions with vast minorities around 13-15% but 20% unemployment has never been an issue during the current recesssion 2007 onward.

obama inherited an enormous mismanagement of this country and an already high deficit from 8 years of incompetent republicans who lied to the population to start a war in iraq that should have ended after their dictator was captured. the president can not make miracles in 2 years for the reasons mentioned above. it will take time.

concerning wall st. and other business contributions to politicians, it is a known fact republicans have always been and always will be the highest contributors to candidates for politcial office.

obama has made some unfortunate mistakes most recently concerning building a mosque in the shadows of ground zero. this is a local issue to be decided by new york city. i am also disappointed bloomberg has mentioned the mosque is welcome in that area. wtf are they thinking?

in conclusion, fear mongers need to shut the f--- up. stop their propaganda so persons responsible to lead this nation can work to solve the serious situation and not use their energies to reply to media and political morons who imho are traitors. yes, there is freedom of speech but it's getting ludicrous and unacceptable all the negativity.[/quote]obama is pretty much gone in 2012, he is finished. it has ditto to do with fear mongering, its a fact that americans want fast results and americans do not see any substantial change for the better. obama is a puppet of soros and elite globalists, although only few are on to this, soros bankrolled obama's election, the right wing is effective in creating an environment of fear towards o's policies, the direction of america is clearly similar to that of the soviet union, already whole sectors of private industry are controlled by the government. i am so glad i do not live in america, what a joke. people where i live have already discounted america as a has been power, its china's time to shine, this is the asian century not the american one, that ended 10 years ago, get used to it.

[QUOTE=Australiasucks]Obama is pretty much gone in 2012, he is finished. It has ditto to do with fear mongering, its a fact that Americans want fast results and Americans do not see any substantial change for the better. [/QUOTE]
Not at all clear. What's most interesting is the degree to which the extremists on the right are dominating the debate within the Republican party. I agree that if the Republicans were willing to nominate a reasonable centrist for the next Presidential election, they would almost certainly win. But they seem pre-disposed at the moment to really gravitate to their most loony, scary, completely wacked out candidates like Sarah Palin, and that's the sort of of person that will scare the middle of the electorate back to Obama as the only sane option. And it's also true that we have some historical precedent here for Presidents to get a lot done in their first two years, but that scares the electorate into voting for the opposing party's congressional candidates in the mid-term elections. Then, when the opposing party fails to get anything done either, support gravitates back to the President before their election for their 2nd term. It happened with Reagan, and it happened with Clinton. Both of them were every bit as unpopular as Obama 1.5 to 2 years into their Presidencies - and both of them used the mid-term congressional defeats of their party, and the subsequent failure of the other party to accomplish anything in the legislature, to swing back into stronger popularity and to their re-elections.

[QUOTE=Helpmann]I am not "thrilled" with the idea of a mosque near Ground Zero, but freedom of religion is a Constitutional right. To start denying certain Americans their Constitutional rights is the start down a slippery slope.

BTW, I am not "thrilled" with fat ugly chicks living next to me either, but fat ugly chicks have rights too.

-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]Tell you a secret between you and I. Fat ugly chicks have good wet pussies, Just make sure they use the back door and nobody sees her leaving.

[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]
It took the Spaniards 700 years to boot the Arabs out. The war of religion is still going on ... and we are loosing it in Europe.
B.B.[/QUOTE]

A huge yes to this. I'm in Spain now, and it's awful that the muslims are invading. There is arab stores and restaurants popping up all over the place. If I wanted to live in the middle east I would have moved there, not to Spain. I'm all for stricter immigration laws. Unlike the USA who was built on immigration, this country was built by Spanish not Arabs.

Now, you try to do any of this in their country? Forget it, you'll be dead.

[QUOTE=Australiasucks]Obama is pretty much gone in 2012, he is finished. It has ditto to do with fear mongering, its a fact that Americans want fast results and Americans do not see any substantial change for the better. Obama is a puppet of Soros and elite globalists, although only few are on to this, Soros bankrolled Obama's election, the right wing is effective in creating an environment of fear towards O's policies, the direction of America is clearly similar to that of the Soviet Union, already whole sectors of private industry are controlled by the government. I am so glad I do not live in America, what a joke. People where I live have already discounted America as a has been power, its China's time to shine, this is the Asian Century not the American one, that ended 10 years ago, get used to it.[/QUOTE]
Apparently the media has influenced your thought process. Obama wasn't supposed to get past Hillary or Mccain according to the media. People in America aren't as blind as you think, we'll see what happens in 2012. The media needs controversies to attract attention. If they all said Obama was doing good that would be boring.

I agree with your statement about America wanting fast results and being unappreciative. The problem with Obama is he genuinely cares. We are used to politicians who kiss babys, tell us want we want to hear, and then do nothing.

People have forgotten that two years ago we were headed for the next great depression, thats not talked about anymore. Now it's we want jobs, jobs, jobs. After that some other problem will be manufactored for Obama.

China is a global power mainly because of America. We got into exporting good's and away from domestic products.

Never underestimate America's resolve when depreciated. America is at it's best when playing catch up. Our problem is when were out front we don't know how to lead.

I have been to Austrailia and it is a wonderful country, but politically they a minor player.

Thanks for your post.

[QUOTE=Jon32]A huge yes to this. I'm in Spain now, and it's awful that the muslims are invading. There is arab stores and restaurants popping up all over the place. If I wanted to live in the middle east I would have moved there, not to Spain. I'm all for stricter immigration laws. Unlike the USA who was built on immigration, this country was built by Spanish not Arabs.

Now, you try to do any of this in their country? Forget it, you'll be dead.[/QUOTE]

It's not just Spain it's the entire continent. Millions of them are now living in every Euro country. Many Europeans honestly believe they will take over the continent in less than 50 years. The U.N. made the greatest error of its existence when they requested in the early 1980s Euro borders open to refugees from middle east muslim and northeast African countries bringing their barbaric, primitive, religious behavior to western civilization in the midst of prosperity. Now 25 years later almost every Euro country has economic problems because of governmental support to these people through numerous programs while full blood Europeans suffer because of taxes, job lose etc.

As for America, Americans are an impatient breed. They need to realize it took 8 years to economically destroy the country. It will take more than 2, even more than 4 years to correct the mismanagement. Furthermore, wealthy Americans have to accept to pay some more in taxes to correct the previous administrations mistakes of giving them tax breaks. There is no other solution.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Tell you a secret between you and I. Fat ugly chicks have good wet pussies, Just make sure they use the back door and nobody sees her leaving.[/QUOTE]I haven't fucked a fat chick in six years and I am NOT going to do that again! Now, it's just "spinners" and "sticks w/ tits."

-Helpmann :D