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Just got back from a week in Haiti, most evenings spent at the Creole Mansion. I was working most days, so only had a little time to spend with the girls each evening.
I asked BB to set me up with Guerdine, based on photos and reviews here and he certainly came through.
Guerdine and a new girl (Ruth) showed up shortly after I arrived and was drinking beer out on the front porch. I thought I had gone to heaven. Guerdine has been described by others here as "smoking hot" and she is. She appeared in a sexy body-hugging blue dress and a big smile. She is certainly the cutest girl I saw there and very fun-loving, sitting on my lap, kissing, fondling, etc. A real GFE, except for the language barrier. She speaks some English, but not much.
The gang (four guys, four girls) went out for a late night beach party and the girls could not get enough of bouncing around and shaking their booties. Actually it got a little tiring.
When we returned it was a quick trip upstairs and getting down to business. Unfortunately Guerdine is one of those girls who look better with some clothes on - she has saggy tits, which look great bundled up in a biking top, but are very disappointing when exposed to sight. Her BJ skills were adequate but actual fucking mediocre - she is very boney (the down side of being so skinny) and not everything was comfortable. And she was mostly looking away during these performances. Still, finished nicely in her mouth and had another round in the morning.
Despite my disappointment I asked her to stay another day both because I knew it was far for her to come out the the Mansion and because I did not have time to go mongering myself - so a bird in the bed is worth two in the street. Second round was more disappointing, despite the fact that she was trying harder (I guess she sensed my disappointment with the first night and realized that being young and hot was not enough, she had to give good service too!) - looking into my eyes during the act and initiating an early morning BJ. Maybe it was the heat or fatigue or the fact that I knew what lay beneath that bikini-top. But when the machinery is working fine, but there is no happy ending, then something is wrong, probably on the emotional side. So I dismissed her and spent the next evening loveless, again because I just did not have the time to chase down another girl.
Went off to Jacmel for a couple of days and don't really have anything to report about mongering there - simply did not have a chance to go fishing. Returned late the next night - too late to get anything lined up, so suffered through three nights without sex in Haiti! Truly a humanitarian disaster of epic proportions!
So I asked BB's girl (much of this time our host had decamped to DR to take care of some business there, kindly leaving me use of his SUV and driver) to set me up with Ruth - the new girl who had come with Guerdine the first night, but had serviced some other gentleman. Interestingly, she showed up the second night also, completely on spec since her paramour had moved on. I had fantasties of having her and Guertine together, but was too tired to properly use one girl, let alone two. However, the point is that after one visit to the Mansion, during which she had looked somewhat hesitant, she quickly got into the idea and I guess figured that even a night of relative luxury (relative to her circumstances, the Mansion is not luxurious by our standards) with the prospect of a paying gig was worth the investment of her time in a two hour tap-tap ride. I am sure she did not get one.
Anyway, I ordered her in the next night and ran her through the paces. Almost as cute as Guerdine but with better tits, but unfortunately less English (i.e virtually none). Cooperative enough on sex, but a bit girlish, breaking off a blow job just when things were getting exciting, to make funny faces or change positions. Anyway, we managed to have some fun, but again somewhat diminished by her lack of language skills and lack of experience with guys like me. But I had brought along a toy which was a completely new experience for her, I am sure, so we managed to have some fun anyway.
Again, I asked her to stay a second night because it just was not practical to go hunting and I did not want to risk another sexless night. The second night was a repeat of the first, managed a couple of rounds of adequate sex plus a sunset BJ on the balcony. It took a little work to get her into the open air BJ, as she was a bit shy, but I wasn't going to take any crap from her - I know what I like even if she hasn't the experience to figure that out yet. Both mornings she was pretty sleepy and unresponsive to early morning overtures, which also pissed me off a bit. She should be all over me, not me having to do all the heavy lifting.
Still, Ruth was a very cute girl, adequate in bed, and may learn what she needs to do to please guys like us.
That's pretty much it for my experience, other than to say the rooms are nice and large and have nice balconies - mine had a great ocean view. The days and nights are hot as hell and humid. Haiti is not for the faint of heart -the poverty and squalor and chaos of Port-au-Prince are depressing. But of course those are also the factors that draw young beauties to the Mansion to be fucked by middle-aged foreigners for not much money. Or not fucked, as several girls who showed up my last night and hung around for a few hours, then went home loveless, discovered. I already had Ruth installed in my bedroom and none of these girls could compete with her, and BB had #6, and the only other guy was just not buying, I guess.
So my experience was kind of mixed. Sure, girls were available and willing and had some nice attributes. But my fantasies of nookie heaven simply did not come true - for various reasons, some my fault and some the girls' fault.
Things should be somewhat diffent when the Mansion relocates from its present location which, while having many nice attributes (particularly the ocean), is pretty far from PaP and thus complicated to get girls to and from easily. If the new location comes to fruition, it will be much more likely to have a flow of girls in and out, giving more selection and bargaining power to the gentlemen. It is not perfectly located either (the roads are brutal) but then perfection is not really a concept you should be looking for in Haiti.
If you have some French language skills (mine are minimal) you could have some real fun with the girls. If you are happy with a fuck bunny for mechanical sex and no communications, then you will do fine. But if you need to build a connection with your sex partner, or simply want to spend more time with her during the day, and lack language skills, it may be hard to find a suitable girl.
Cheers,
GT
I have picked up girls in Haiti in the past and thought they were the best I ever had, then the next time they were the worst I ever had. I have picked up girls and thought to myself, I could have done just as good with minnie five fingers and then just out of curiosity tried the same girl again and she would be awesome. I think it all depends on how you approach the girl or what you mind is on at the time. The big difference in Haiti is they are capable of being your girlfriend for a day or a week or longer. If you have your mind fully on your job as the Gentlemen Traveler did while he was here it makes it difficult. He was actually worn out from riding through the rough streets of Haiti to really relax at night. This is one reason why I like it out be cause you do not have to put up with the crazy driving in the city. If everything goes with what we are planning we may have 2 places. One in the city and one at the beach but right on the beach where you can skinny dip with your babe at nights. There will also be a salt water pool for the pussys who are afraid of the big bad sea.
No seriously, when I would come to Haiti on a contract, I had good nights but too many times I had bad nights because I just could not get in the mood. If you are not in the mood then it is very difficult to get your babe in the mood.
Now, this is just my opinion and you know what they say. It is just like A-holes, everybody has one.
GT, when you come back, I will have more time to concentrate on your needs. Sorry I had to disappear for a few days. But when you return, I plan to get your brains f _ _ ked out
A good, honest report. Sometimes things click, sometimes they don't. C'est la vie. Language skills, even basic ones, work wonders no matter where you go.
I'll see if I can find some good Creole> English and (visa versa) things to post.
In the meantime, if you have an iPhone, do an App search for "Byki Haitian Creole" and download it. Start there. It's free :)
Also, get "Pimsleur Haitian Creole" CD set. You can get it at Barnes and Noble or Amazon.com. Its about $35 and well worth it!
Search "How to speak Haitian Creole" on YouTube and you'll find stuff there too.
Allez!! Don't expect the whole world to speak English....
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Just got back from a week in Haiti, most evenings spent at the Creole Mansion. I was working most days, so only had a little time to spend with the girls each evening.
I asked BB to set me up with Guerdine, based on photos and reviews here and he certainly came through.
Guerdine and a new girl (Ruth) showed up shortly after I arrived and was drinking beer out on the front porch. I thought I had gone to heaven. Guerdine has been described by others here as "smoking hot" and she is. She appeared in a sexy body-hugging blue dress and a big smile. She is certainly the cutest girl I saw there and very fun-loving, sitting on my lap, kissing, fondling, etc. A real GFE, except for the language barrier. She speaks some English, but not much.
The gang (four guys, four girls) went out for a late night beach party and the girls could not get enough of bouncing around and shaking their booties. Actually it got a little tiring.
When we returned it was a quick trip upstairs and getting down to business. Unfortunately Guerdine is one of those girls who look better with some clothes on - she has saggy tits, which look great bundled up in a biking top, but are very disappointing when exposed to sight. Her BJ skills were adequate but actual fucking mediocre - she is very boney (the down side of being so skinny) and not everything was comfortable. And she was mostly looking away during these performances. Still, finished nicely in her mouth and had another round in the morning.
Despite my disappointment I asked her to stay another day both because I knew it was far for her to come out the the Mansion and because I did not have time to go mongering myself - so a bird in the bed is worth two in the street. Second round was more disappointing, despite the fact that she was trying harder (I guess she sensed my disappointment with the first night and realized that being young and hot was not enough, she had to give good service too!) - looking into my eyes during the act and initiating an early morning BJ. Maybe it was the heat or fatigue or the fact that I knew what lay beneath that bikini-top. But when the machinery is working fine, but there is no happy ending, then something is wrong, probably on the emotional side. So I dismissed her and spent the next evening loveless, again because I just did not have the time to chase down another girl.
Went off to Jacmel for a couple of days and don't really have anything to report about mongering there - simply did not have a chance to go fishing. Returned late the next night - too late to get anything lined up, so suffered through three nights without sex in Haiti! Truly a humanitarian disaster of epic proportions!
So I asked BB's girl (much of this time our host had decamped to DR to take care of some business there, kindly leaving me use of his SUV and driver) to set me up with Ruth - the new girl who had come with Guerdine the first night, but had serviced some other gentleman. Interestingly, she showed up the second night also, completely on spec since her paramour had moved on. I had fantasties of having her and Guertine together, but was too tired to properly use one girl, let alone two. However, the point is that after one visit to the Mansion, during which she had looked somewhat hesitant, she quickly got into the idea and I guess figured that even a night of relative luxury (relative to her circumstances, the Mansion is not luxurious by our standards) with the prospect of a paying gig was worth the investment of her time in a two hour tap-tap ride. I am sure she did not get one.
Anyway, I ordered her in the next night and ran her through the paces. Almost as cute as Guerdine but with better tits, but unfortunately less English (i.e virtually none). Cooperative enough on sex, but a bit girlish, breaking off a blow job just when things were getting exciting, to make funny faces or change positions. Anyway, we managed to have some fun, but again somewhat diminished by her lack of language skills and lack of experience with guys like me. But I had brought along a toy which was a completely new experience for her, I am sure, so we managed to have some fun anyway.
Again, I asked her to stay a second night because it just was not practical to go hunting and I did not want to risk another sexless night. The second night was a repeat of the first, managed a couple of rounds of adequate sex plus a sunset BJ on the balcony. It took a little work to get her into the open air BJ, as she was a bit shy, but I wasn't going to take any crap from her - I know what I like even if she hasn't the experience to figure that out yet. Both mornings she was pretty sleepy and unresponsive to early morning overtures, which also pissed me off a bit. She should be all over me, not me having to do all the heavy lifting.
Still, Ruth was a very cute girl, adequate in bed, and may learn what she needs to do to please guys like us.
That's pretty much it for my experience, other than to say the rooms are nice and large and have nice balconies - mine had a great ocean view. The days and nights are hot as hell and humid. Haiti is not for the faint of heart -the poverty and squalor and chaos of Port-au-Prince are depressing. But of course those are also the factors that draw young beauties to the Mansion to be fucked by middle-aged foreigners for not much money. Or not fucked, as several girls who showed up my last night and hung around for a few hours, then went home loveless, discovered. I already had Ruth installed in my bedroom and none of these girls could compete with her, and BB had #6, and the only other guy was just not buying, I guess.
So my experience was kind of mixed. Sure, girls were available and willing and had some nice attributes. But my fantasies of nookie heaven simply did not come true - for various reasons, some my fault and some the girls' fault.
Things should be somewhat diffent when the Mansion relocates from its present location which, while having many nice attributes (particularly the ocean), is pretty far from PaP and thus complicated to get girls to and from easily. If the new location comes to fruition, it will be much more likely to have a flow of girls in and out, giving more selection and bargaining power to the gentlemen. It is not perfectly located either (the roads are brutal) but then perfection is not really a concept you should be looking for in Haiti.
If you have some French language skills (mine are minimal) you could have some real fun with the girls. If you are happy with a fuck bunny for mechanical sex and no communications, then you will do fine. But if you need to build a connection with your sex partner, or simply want to spend more time with her during the day, and lack language skills, it may be hard to find a suitable girl.
Cheers,
GT[/QUOTE]
here's a creole starter. see post below for more leads. you're welcome.... :)
creole - english
* * * * * * * * * * *
bonjou! - good morning!
bonswa! - good afternoon!/evening! (used after 11 am)
komon ou ye? - how are you?
n'ap boule! (most common greeting and response) - good!
wi - yes
yo - they, them
non - no
mesi - thanks
anmwe! - help!
non, mesi - no, thanks
souple - please
merite - you're welcome
pa gen pwoblem - no problem
oke - ok
eskize mwen - excuse me
mwen regret sa - i'm sorry
gen... - there is/are...
pa genyen! - there is/are not any!
mwen pa genyen! - i don't have any!
sekonsa! - that's right!
piti piti - a little bit
anpil - a lot
gen anpil... - there are a lot of...
isit - here
la - there
tout bagay anfom? - is everything ok?
pa kounye-a - not now
toupatou - everywhere
anyen - nothing
preske - almost
atansyon! - attention!/watch out!
prese prese! - hurry!
dife! - fire!
rete! - stop!
kounye-a - now
nou ap chache... - we are looking for...
souple, ban mwen... - please give me...
separe sa ant nou - divide this among you
ye - yesterday
jodia - today
demen - tomorrow
maten an - this morning
apremidi a - this afternoon
aswe a - this evening
lendi - monday
madi - tuesday
mekredi - wednesday
jedi - thursday
vandredi - friday
samdi - saturday
dimanch - sunday
ou byen? - you ok?
mwen pa two byen - i'm not too well
mwen malad - i'm sick
te gen yon aksidan - there was an accident
nou bezwen yon dokte/yon mis touswit - we need a doctor/a nurse right now
kote iopital ia? - where is the hospital?
kote ii ou fe mal? - where does it hurt you?
li ansent - she's pregnant
mwen pa ka manje/domi - i cannot eat/sleep
mwengendjare - i have diarrhea
mwen anvi vonmi - i feel nauseated
tout ko mwen cho - my whole body is hot
mwen toudi - i'm dizzy
nou bezwen pansman/koton - we need bandages/cotton
mwen bezwen yon bagay pi blese sa a - i need something for this cut
ou gen sida - you have aids
mwen grangou - i'm hungry
mwen swaf anpil - i'm very thirsty
nou ta vle manje - we would like to eat
konben - how much?/how many?
poukisa? - why?
kote? - where?
kisa? - what?
kile? - when?
ki moun? - who?
kijan? - how?
kiles? - which?
eske gen...? - is/are there...?
eske ou gen...? - do you have...?
eske ou ka ede nou, souple? - can you help us please?
kote nou ka achte...? - where can we buy...?
eske ou ka di mwen...? - can you tell me...?
montre - show
ban - give
ki moun ki ia? - who is there?
kisa ou vie? - what do you want?
kisa ou ta via? - what would you like?
kisa ou ap fe ia? - what are you doing there?
kisa sa a ye? - what is that?
sa k'genyen? - what's the matter?
kisa pi nou fe? - what must we do?
eske ou te we...? - have you seen...?
eske ou pale angle/franse? - do you speak english/french?
ki moun isit ki pale angle? - who speaks english here?
ou konprann? - you understand?
kij an yo rele sa an kreyol? - what do they call that increole?
kij an yo di...an kreyol? - how do they say... in creole?
kisa ou bezouen? - what do you need?
kisa ki rive ou? - what happened to you?
ki kote li ale? - where did he go?
kilaj ou? - how old are you?
kote ou rete? - where do you live?
eske ou gen petit? - do you have any children?
kote nou ye? - where are we?
genyen - to have
chita - to sit
manje - to eat
rete - to stop
kouri - to run
kouche - to lie down
vini - to come
ale/prale - to go
ban - to give
rete trankil - to be quiet
pran - to get, receive
leve - to get up
sede - to give up
touye - to kill
frape - to hit
kache - to hide
konnen - to know
manti - to lie (not truth)
gade - to look
koupe - to cut
kwit-manje, fe-manje - to cook
fimen - to smoke
atake - to attack
ban pemi - to authorize
kri - to shout, yell, scream
achte - to buy
fe-apel - to call, name
netwaye - to clean
femen - to close
fose - to coerce, force
fini - to finish
obeyi - to obey
fe - konfyans - to trust
console - to comfort
pati - to leave, depart
mouri - to die
fe-desen - to draw, sketch
bwe - to drink
tonbe - to drop, fall
mete abo - embark, load, board
atoure - to surround
ranfose - to enforce
ou - you, your
mwen - i, me, my, mine
nou - us, our, you (plural)
ii - him, her, his, hers * * * * * * * * * * * *
pronunciation guide
creole is written phonetically. each letter is pronounced, and each word is spelled as it is pronounced. creole has only been recognized as the official language of haiti in the last few years. therefore, there are many different ways in which the haitians write and spell creole words. there is an official standard that has been set, and this standard will be maintained in this publication. the following is a pronunciation guide using this standard; most of the sounds are french.
ch-share chache-to look for
o-claw fo-strong
e-aim ede-to aid, help
ou-you ou-you
e-leg mesi-thank you
r-(not rolled) respire-to breathe
g-go gen-to have
i-see isit-here
s-(always s) prese-in a hurry
j-(avoid the d sound) jou-day
y-yes pye-foot
o-toe zo-bone there are nasal sounds in creole just as there are nasal sounds in french, which are pronounced partially through the nose, but without the "n" itself pronounced (a rare exception to the general pronunciation rule of pronouncing every letter). some english equivalents which come close to the nasal sounds are as follows:
an-alms dan-tooth
en-chopin pen-bread
on-don't bon-good
a. when a nasal sound is followed by another "n", or "m," the nasal sound is pronounced, then the "n" or "m" is pronounced separately.
b. if an accent is placed over the vowel, there is no nasal sound.
c. in never indicates a nasal sound.
the letter c is only used in the ch combination.
the letter k is used for the hard sound.
the letter s is used for the soft sound.
[QUOTE=La Isla]A good, honest report. Sometimes things click, sometimes they don't. C'est la vie. Language skills, even basic ones, work wonders no matter where you go.
I'll see if I can find some good Creole> English and (visa versa) things to post.
In the meantime, if you have an iPhone, do an App search for "Byki Haitian Creole" and download it. Start there. It's free :)
Also, get "Pimsleur Haitian Creole" CD set. You can get it at Barnes and Noble or Amazon.com. Its about $35 and well worth it!
Search "How to speak Haitian Creole" on YouTube and you'll find stuff there too.
Allez!! Don't expect the whole world to speak English....[/QUOTE]
When I say my French is minimal, I mean I cannot coduct a meaningful conversation in French. In fact I have some vocabulary and many stock phrases and can construct basic sentences and questions. But being able to tell a girl it is time to go to bed, or to take her clothes off, is not the same thing as being able to have a conversation. That is where the disconnect was, not in transfering basic information. So learning a set of stock phrases or vocabulary in Creole will not get me any further, except amongst girls who do not even speak French.
Hey, I got the chance to get a look at Bad Bear's new location.
It's just great, a funky little place with natural air conditioning.
It already had a cool name and signage, so he will be going with that as part of the new identity and marketing plan. Check it out....
Maybe "CHEZ COCO" would be even better....
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Hey, I got the chance to get a look at Bad Bear's new location.
It's just great, a funky little place with natural air conditioning.
It already had a cool name and signage, so he will be going with that as part of the new identity and marketing plan. Check it out....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]When I say my French is minimal, I mean I cannot coduct a meaningful conversation in French. In fact I have some vocabulary and many stock phrases and can construct basic sentences and questions. But being able to tell a girl it is time to go to bed, or to take her clothes off, is not the same thing as being able to have a conversation. That is where the disconnect was, not in transfering basic information. So learning a set of stock phrases or vocabulary in Creole will not get me any further, except amongst girls who do not even speak French.[/QUOTE]
Well remember that not everyone speaks French in Haiti. Usually justthe educated ones. You can learn enough to have a polite conversation if you just study a little.
Learn 10-25 verbs first, especially the important ones like to be, to make, etc. Once you can conjugate a few verbs, and construct a basic sentence, the rest is just memorizing different words to plug in.
The truth about languages is that learning a new language is not tied into intelligence. Its just a part of the brain that works or it doesn't. I've known illiterate immigrants learn to speak near perfect English in 3 months. I also have very educated friends who can't learn more than 10 words of a language. Go figure...
[QUOTE=La Isla]I've known illiterate immigrants learn to speak near perfect English in 3 months. I also have very educated friends who can't learn more than 10 words of a language. Go figure...[/QUOTE]
The immigrants learn it because they have to, at least if they want to live above the subsistence level. But to your "educated friends," learning a language is a luxury that they can take or leave.
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]The immigrants learn it because they have to, at least if they want to live above the subsistence level. But to your "educated friends," learning a language is a luxury that they can take or leave.[/QUOTE]
In my experience, it is rather more complicated. Generally speaking, those from larger countries with an imperialist, empire-building tradition are usually quite bad at learning other languages. This explains why English speakers are generally awful at learning other languages. They just assume that everyone speaks, or should speak, English. In Europe, the imperial past of the local culture seems to be the determining factor in most instances. The English, French, and Spanish are absolutely awful. The Italians, for some reason, are not very good either. Those from smaller countries tend to be more skillful such as Scandinavia, the Low Countries, former Yugoslav republics, the Swiss, etc. The Portuguese, though with an imperialist past, tend to be good at languages in contrast to the awkwardness of their Iberian cousins, perhaps because they are a smaller country.
In Asia, the countries that are worst at learning other languages seem to follow the imperialist tradition. The Chinese, generally speaking, do NOT speak a foreign language while the Japanese are quite bad at it. The Koreans don't seem to be good although it would seem to be a contradiction of the imperialist, empire tradition since Korea never invaded anybody, at least in the Sino-Japanese tradition (they were occupied by Japan until 1945 so that might explain it). The Thais are not very good except the very wealthy or the very ambitious bar girls who quickly learn.
In Africa, people seem to be naturally multilingual and even revel in it. In Morrocco, many of the traders there can speak a few phrases of anything from English to Catalan to Basque to Spanish to whatever, anything to make a sale.
In Latin America, in keeping with the imperialist mentality, Spanish and Portuguese speakers tend to be as bad as English-speakers at languages (though Canadians tend to speak a bit of French and Quebeckers tend to know English quite well). However, the elites in Latin America generally speak excellent English thanks to schooling and English-language TV.
Generally speaking, people learn other languages, regardless of education, if they perceive a pressing need. The higher on the totem pole, the more resistance to learning someone else's tongue. It is a question of sociology and psychology.
Haitians are very good at languages if given a decent chance. I am absolutely amazed at how well they often speak English, French, or Spanish in addition to their Kreyol.
Sorry but I disagree with most of what you say. I will however give you that
"...people learn other languages, regardless of education, if they perceive a pressing need".
I am from a large Imperialist country and speak 5 languages (not all fluent but enough to communicate). I LOVE to learn new languages
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]In my experience, it is rather more complicated. Generally speaking, those from larger countries with an imperialist, empire-building tradition are usually quite bad at learning other languages. This explains why English speakers are generally awful at learning other languages. They just assume that everyone speaks, or should speak, English. In Europe, the imperial past of the local culture seems to be the determining factor in most instances. The English, French, and Spanish are absolutely awful. The Italians, for some reason, are not very good either. Those from smaller countries tend to be more skillful such as Scandinavia, the Low Countries, former Yugoslav republics, the Swiss, etc. The Portuguese, though with an imperialist past, tend to be good at languages in contrast to the awkwardness of their Iberian cousins, perhaps because they are a smaller country.
In Asia, the countries that are worst at learning other languages seem to follow the imperialist tradition. The Chinese, generally speaking, do NOT speak a foreign language while the Japanese are quite bad at it. The Koreans don't seem to be good although it would seem to be a contradiction of the imperialist, empire tradition since Korea never invaded anybody, at least in the Sino-Japanese tradition (they were occupied by Japan until 1945 so that might explain it). The Thais are not very good except the very wealthy or the very ambitious bar girls who quickly learn.
In Africa, people seem to be naturally multilingual and even revel in it. In Morrocco, many of the traders there can speak a few phrases of anything from English to Catalan to Basque to Spanish to whatever, anything to make a sale.
In Latin America, in keeping with the imperialist mentality, Spanish and Portuguese speakers tend to be as bad as English-speakers at languages (though Canadians tend to speak a bit of French and Quebeckers tend to know English quite well). However, the elites in Latin America generally speak excellent English thanks to schooling and English-language TV.
Generally speaking, people learn other languages, regardless of education, if they perceive a pressing need. The higher on the totem pole, the more resistance to learning someone else's tongue. It is a question of sociology and psychology.
Haitians are very good at languages if given a decent chance. I am absolutely amazed at how well they often speak English, French, or Spanish in addition to their Kreyol.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=La Isla]Sorry but I disagree with most of what you say. I will however give you that
"...people learn other languages, regardless of education, if they perceive a pressing need".
I am from a large Imperialist country and speak 5 languages (not all fluent but enough to communicate). I LOVE to learn new languages[/QUOTE]
It is a shame that you failed to specify where you disagree with me, which seems to be most of the time, but that is okay with me but I think I am at least mostly on the right track.
I too was also born in a large imperialist country and can speak around 12 languages with various degrees of fluency (Badbear will bear me out on this one). Notice I said "usually" or "tend" when referring to the abilities of various nationalities. Americans are usually quite bad at languages but there is a minority that is remarkably outstanding. The exception confirms the rule as some say and you seem to be one of them.
[QUOTE=La Isla]Sorry but I disagree with most of what you say. [/QUOTE]Dude thats pretty funny that you disagree whih most of what he says.
I find that to be one of the funniest posts on the board.
Let's just agree that Haiti has an excellent Coco crop and we're good :)
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]It is a shame that you failed to specify where you disagree with me, which seems to be most of the time, but that is okay with me but I think I am at least mostly on the right track.
I too was also born in a large imperialist country and can speak around 12 languages with various degrees of fluency (Badbear will bear me out on this one). Notice I said "usually" or "tend" when referring to the abilities of various nationalities. Americans are usually quite bad at languages but there is a minority that is remarkably outstanding. The exception confirms the rule as some say and you seem to be one of them.[/QUOTE]