South China - Guangzhou

[QUOTE=FairTourist]I know that karma is at hung fu lu, but can you explain where this is? Do somebody have google map?

I'm in 4 weeks in the Garden Hotel, so perhaps it is in the area?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=%E6%81%92%E7%A6%8F%E8%B7%AF+%E5%B9%BF%E5%B7%9E&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=64.537053,134.912109&ie=UTF8&ll=23.143912,113.287824&spn=0.002336,0.004117&z=19[/url]

It is shown as Neihuan Rd on the map as it runs on top of Heng Fu Lu. Your best bet to find that place is to start from Garden hotel and head toward Taojin North Rd, as Karma is a short right turn into HengFu Lu emerging from TaoJin North Rd.

Or give this to the taxi driver : 金色年华 (JinSeNianHua)

Also, Tang is much closer to Garden hotel and pretty much the same group girls would start off at Tang and gather at Karma later.

Fillmore

Is it better to go by bus or train from GZ to CP?

Also, I notice there are 2 train stations in GZ, so which one is the best to use if going by train, the one in the North/West or the one in the East?

[QUOTE=Sharka]Is it better to go by bus or train from GZ to CP?

Also, I notice there are 2 train stations in GZ, so which one is the best to use if going by train, the one in the North/West or the one in the East?[/QUOTE]

East Train station, definitely by train, unless you have missed the last train at 10:45pm, otherwise it runs every 15 min, so it is more like a subway train.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]

I have only been to a 2nd tier ktv in GZ and the girls were 5/10/15. A typical small room on any ktv with girls would typically have 1000-1500 minimum, but the worst part was the mandatory tipping for everyone who entered the room, including the cleaning lady. The 5/10/15 is also misleading as only the 5 applies since GZ ktv girls never go out, especially on a first “date”. It is pretty much they are all waiting for the guy who comes back for her again and again and who will agree to buy her an apartment, before she would go out. [/QUOTE]

This is a very common practice in GZ KTV where many of the girls will not go out with customers. It may be a laowai fear thing, but I have seen many refuse to go with locals and overseas Chinese too.

It is imperative that you ask the mamasan or the girl before she sits down with you or at least before the test period expires if you want to take her out.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=Jdbkk555]Sure enough, just as a report from a couple of years back said. SW's will start to show up outside the Marriott at about 9 in the evening. They are not shy about selling their services. Most are dogs and aggressive at that. I finally found one, after shooing away 5 or 6 that would not qualify for an Alpo can. She seemed nice enough and the price was sure right. 200.

About a half hour into the session, I started getting bored with this lady and asked if she had a friend that wanted to join us. A quick phone call away and there she was. This one looked like a Russian-Chinese mix. Taller and with a more Caucasian ass to her.

We proceeded into a 3 way hand job. And as things started to stiffen appropriately, I motioned and a condom went on. She was nice. Though the fake sounds are a bit of a turn off for me.

I'll add this one to the been there, done that category and not consider that again unless I'm here for a long haul sometime. There's got to be some better caliber talent about.

The down side. These are sure stubborn bitches. They will nag you on the selection process until you relent. The part that pisses me off is trying to get them out of the room at the end of service. Constant negotiations to increase the price. Asking to begging, offering more services. I recommend to have just the right money available someone where close so you can whip it out at the right time and claim that's all you've got. Show them a wallet and they'll be after you for an hour.

I thought about asking for a photo. But decided that would only prolong the price haggle more than I was willing to bare.

Also. [url]www.bypassproxy. Us[/url] works nicely to get access to ISG while in China. You can't search and stuff. But rest works fine.[/QUOTE]

If you walk down the alley at the side of the Marriott you will find some BBS with takeaway service for 130-150 RMB ST. I've seen some pretty good talent there in the past.

OAH

Too late to go to CP last night so I decided to check out the usual places and found Gypsy King was closed due to renovation, Cave bar had few SW; Tang was still full of them but all old and fat. Head over to Karma and at 1am still barely anybody there, much less in terms of WG.

Fillmore

Thank you fillmore.

Very nice! At Tang I already have been and it is very nice so i wanted to know how Karma is.

I will check it!

[QUOTE=Fillmore St][url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=%E6%81%92%E7%A6%8F%E8%B7%AF+%E5%B9%BF%E5%B7%9E&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=64.537053,134.912109&ie=UTF8&ll=23.143912,113.287824&spn=0.002336,0.004117&z=19[/url]

It is shown as Neihuan Rd on the map as it runs on top of Heng Fu Lu. Your best bet to find that place is to start from Garden hotel and head toward Taojin North Rd, as Karma is a short right turn into HengFu Lu emerging from TaoJin North Rd.

Or give this to the taxi driver : 金色年华 (JinSeNianHua)

Also, Tang is much closer to Garden hotel and pretty much the same group girls would start off at Tang and gather at Karma later.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]

Fellow mongers

I will be in Guangzhou in early November. Will be spending a week-end there. What's the best KTV there? I want to have a take-out for the week-end? My Chinese friends will be taking care of me, so money is not a problem. I'm looking for tall girls, with large racks if possible. Ultimately, need GFE service. What's your advise?
Thanks

Kosmos

[QUOTE=Kosmos]Fellow mongers

I will be in Guangzhou in early November. Will be spending a week-end there. What's the best KTV there? I want to have a take-out for the week-end? My Chinese friends will be taking care of me, so money is not a problem. I'm looking for tall girls, with large racks if possible. Ultimately, need GFE service. What's your advise?
Thanks

Kosmos[/QUOTE]

If your Chinese friends are taking care of the bill, then they should know better? The most expensive ktv is in TianHeDongLu, sitting fee for a girl is 1000. No set fee for take out as most never go out.

Simplest solution is to arrange for one ktv trip to CP and get at least 2 girls to sit with you and get both phone numbers. Then ask one to come to spend GFE weekend with you in GZ. Contact BSD to make needed arrangment.

CP girls are much nicer and simpler and will treat you really well since you have the easy picking of them, while the GZ girls will have easy picking of desperate business travellers who only know Garden hotel and not much else.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]

Simplest solution is to arrange for one ktv trip to CP and get at least 2 girls to sit with you and get both phone numbers. Then ask one to come to spend GFE weekend with you in GZ. Contact BSD to make needed arrangment.


Fillmore[/QUOTE]

What/where is CP and who is BSD?

[QUOTE=Kosmos]What/where is CP and who is BSD?[/QUOTE]
CP is Chang Ping in Dongguan, Guangdong province and if you want to RTFF, go to the Dongguan thread.

Tons of info on that thread and BSD is Big Swingin Dave who've been doing a stellar job taking guys around, keeping them out of trouble/being overcharged, arranging KTV parties, saunas, hotels etc - you're pretty well guaranteed the BBBJ that you seemed to have missed out the last time you were in these parts if you hook up with BSD.

OK - now you gotta promise us that you'll post up your luscious pictures the same way you did the last time you were here. OK?

SEAJ.

Hi,

Its not karma first of all. Its KAMA.

Cheers

[QUOTE=FairTourist]I know that karma is at hung fu lu, but can you explain where this is? Do somebody have google map?

I'm in 4 weeks in the Garden Hotel, so perhaps it is in the area?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]OK - now you gotta promise us that you'll post up your luscious pictures the same way you did the last time you were here. OK?

SEAJ.[/QUOTE]I promise tons of pictures in early November guys!

What about white pussies in Guangzhou? Are any Russians available in KTV's?

Kosmos

[QUOTE=Kosmos]I promise tons of pictures in early November guys!
What about white pussies in Guangzhou? Are any Russians available in KTV's?

Kosmos[/QUOTE]Tang, plenty there, few on the surounding streets as well. Not cheap, expect quotes of 1000+

Not seen in KTV, other clubs / bars are a few

Skills vary, but most will do swollow, anal, dp.

Can't see the point of doing Russian when in China.

On this trip, I came in from HK airport and made a stop over at CP, see my post

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=925009#post925009[/url]

On my return trip, I decided to take a different route, mainly because I don't want to risk missing my flight from HK airport. A bus/van ride from GZ, CP or SZ seemed risky; and flights from GZ to HK was expensive and not available everyday, or when they do have the flight, it would require getting up really early in the morning.

I then decided on the Zhuhai ferry route, which departs at 9:30 so I can sleep(have fun) till 8:30 in the morning. The key is to make sure the flight departs after 12:30 since there is a 3 hours requirement between Zhuhai ferry and HK flight. My Chicago flight was 12:45 which just worked out perfectly. There was also a RMB100 tax refund that HK government was paying anyone to take this route. When was the last time you were handed a 100rmb by just getting on a comfortable 40 min ferry ride?

Actually, the main reason to go down to Zhuhai was the girls. I will write a separate report later as it can get quite long.

Fillmore