Kansai: Kobe-Osaka-Nara-Kyoto

Hi,

I remember the first time I paid 15000yen for a 50 min course at that Aotori shop. That time there was no mat play. I remember the girl's name was Yukiko. She was truly GFE and did allow me to try almost anything except anal. That was the first time I did a DATY on a WG.

Recently, I made a revisit to Aotori. I confirmed the shop was still there but the name was changed to Atelier. This time I paid 20000 yen for 70 min course which included everything. Didn't remember the lady's name though. She was a bit old, but very skillful with the mat play and oral. I did enjoy it very much. However, she was not as GFE as Yukiko who has left Atelier already. All in all, It was quite satisfactory both times I visited.

I was not in the English teaching business. Maybe you've mistaken me with someone.

[QUOTE=Dlite_me]This is for Cockerer, since you can't recieve pm's:

Hey Cockerer, I, too, am a Gaijin-Asian guy who has been to Ogoto (July 2002). I'm wondering for that price you paid, how was your girl, looks and techinique? I currently live in Hikone, perhaps we've might have met. There aren't many Asian-Gaijin English teachers in Shiga. Perhaps you've been to Yab's bar in Hikone or played paintball in Shiga?

Dlite[/QUOTE]

Haven't been to Tobita in awhile, but when I got they usually treat me pretty well for a foreigner. Am wondering though if the swine flu outbreak in Osaka has caused any reaction in the mongering scene. Anybody?

[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Can anyone confirm for me that the following place is gaijin friendly?

[url]http://www.69-girls.com/pc/index.htm[/url]

Their price list is clearly bilingual in a way that makes me think they are. I'd check it out myself, but I only come to Japan on business now.[/QUOTE]Went down there the other day, they will accept anyone that can speak Japanese at a basic level, I didn't get to see the girls as the 30min course is just a HJ though the 1hr is the full monty, The guy at the door mentioned I was welcome to post info for ex-pats etc on forums etc so I guess they are keen for business. He was struggling to keep me there but I had a better place that had an event on. Later herbal.

[QUOTE=Herbal]Went down there the other day, they will accept anyone that can speak Japanese at a basic level, [/QUOTE]Was she paipan, like advertised?

This is a belated trip report, from a trip in late January of this year.

Getting there: I got there via the Dobutsuen-Mae subway station (Exit 2). You walk up and look to your right for what looks like a dingy hallway of shops. It's covered. Walk down that hall and stay to your left, looking left. You'll come to a two way street that has fancy street light fixtures to the left. They are bright white. Go left at this street. Walk about 25 yds and you'll see a police station on the left. Continue straight and you'll start to see the shops with girls.

Trip Safety: It doesn't look or feel safe, but is. People stare a little, but they mean no harm.

Time: 9 and 7 pm on each of two different nights.

Crew: Just me. Caucasian gaijin.

Product: Girls ranging from maybe 19-40 yrs old. Mainly rated 6's to 9's with a couple 5's and 10's.

Solicitation: I cruised every street. I came with no expectation of being solicited, since I am gaijin with no Japanese skills. About 10% summoned me. Many of the mama-sans and girls laughed, clearly suprised to see a caucasian guy roaming there alone. I just smiled and waved. The 8's-10's stared right through me as if they didn't see me. I got some dirty looks from their mama-san's.

Service: My girls were both 100% Japanese, as were most of the girls at Tobita. I took an average looking girl the first night. Let's call her a 7. CBJ followed by FS with CBJ finish. Second night I moved up to very hot "9"..service was as good as the appearance...very nice GFE with BBBJ, FS, and CIM finish. I stopped while I was ahead and still had cash.

Price: 21k yen/30 min for the last one. I don't remember the price of the first.

Recommendation: Go later rather than earlier. Right after work, the Japanese guys like to drive through *very* slowly looking at the girls, apparently gathering mind candy for at home JO sessions. The streets are narrow, and the traffic can make the streets almost impassable for real customers who arrive on foot.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Recommendation: Go later rather than earlier. Right after work, the Japanese guys like to drive through *very* slowly looking at the girls, apparently gathering mind candy for at home JO sessions. The streets are narrow, and the traffic can make the streets almost impassable for real customers who arrive on foot.[/QUOTE]
Nice report!

If I can just add a few things to your recommendations...

1. Look sharp. Wear a suit if possible - if not at least try to look as handsome/dashing as you can. I went straight after work once in my suit and experienced a much higher call rate. If nothing else, avoid looking like a tourist.

2. Avoid peak times. Weekday afternoons are the absolute best if you can manage it; no one else will be there. As Puta Playa said, mid-evening is probably the busiest, with Friday and Saturday being the peaks. Avoid any holidays or long weekends. Also, there will be less people if the weather is bad (cold/rainy) so use that to your advantage.

3. Always be polite. Even if mamasan and/or girls are laughing at you, don't get angry or visibly bothered. The mamasan at the shop next to the one who is laughing and pointing might be willing to accept you, but she'd be put off by any bad behavior you might show.

4. Not every place you have a shot at will call out to you. If you find a girl you like and she isn't avoiding eye contact completely, try going up to the shop, giving a greeting, and asking if its ok to play. Doing so in Japanese will help your chances tremendously.

There are a couple of these posts recently.
I suspect they are just teasers, but anyone with a valid experience speak up.

[url]http://osaka.craigslist.jp/cas/1207934090.html[/url]
[url]http://osaka.craigslist.jp/cas/1183248542.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Azure Knight]Nice report!

If I can just add a few things to your recommendations...

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Another thing, which is only relevant to Kansai locals, is good old familiarity. I used to live in Osaka with two friends in the general area of Tobita. I would go through every week, sometimes twice, although I didn't stop that often. But I responded to the mama-san's calls, smiled at the girls and told them when I thought they were hot.

Overtime, a number of the mamas who were originally hostile would call out to me and accept my money. Also, the decision often depends on the girl. The same mama will call out to you when she has a gaikokujin-ok girl up front, but come back on a second lap, with a different girl out front and she averts her eyes. Also, some girls will change there minds on the spot and decide to take you. (Once as the mama-san was apologizing to me, the girl says to her, "彼やったらオ−ケイやで.")

[QUOTE=Xslikx]Also, some girls will change there minds on the spot and decide to take you. (Once as the mama-san was apologizing to me, the girl says to her, "彼やったらオ−ケイやで.")[/QUOTE]

I've also had similar experiences. I appear to be a halfie and I get a damn good call rate (crowded or not).The mama-san will usually realize their mistake when I approach they'll start getting worried and turn to the girl. Most girls will agree though and we head up.

Once though, the mama-san actually asked if I had a big dick. I'm not huge, but I'm on the bigger side so I said yes. The girl showed concern and thought about it for a good while. She eventually agreed.

The moral of the story is that the girls have the final say in who goes, and they can and often do change their minds.

So here I am in Osaka with the day off, and some time to kill, and rather than just blowing the day off with video games I thought I'd try something constructive - order some delivery health.

I am a total white boy, but with reasonable Japanese (about level 2, ni-kyuu) so I guess I have a chance of passing myself off as Japanese in an email or on the phone. So I switch the language on my computer over to Japanese, surf a few deriheru sites and come across one I've seen a few times before: [url]http://ikenai.jp/main.html[/url]

There's a button for "write a letter to one of the women" so I clicked that, read the instructions and hit the mail button. There are certain details you must fill in - your name, phone number, the time you want her, the girl you want, and any options you would like. Fire off that form, then in about 5 mins I got a call from a guy (the driver it turns out) and he confirms it's me, and the girl I wanted and the kinky options I asked for. (I had to laugh when he read back to me over the phone totally non-plussed "so you want your ass licked right?). She couldn't make it at the time I specified, but he said half an hour later would be OK if that's OK with me - I said yep, and he asked for my address, which I gave and that was it. He said he's call when they got near my place. I passed myself off! So far so good.

Now I just have to convince the girl once she arrives. I had an hour to think about it. I cleaned up my place, but some trad jazz on the stereo, had a shave and put on a suit and tie. I want her to be completely at ease with me and to come across as clean cut as I can.

Then at 5.30 (the time she's meant to come) I get another call from the driver. He's lost and needs directions. Fuck, this could be tricky and if I slip up just even a little, I could blow my chances. So I explained the basic area, what my building looks like, what side of the road it was on, and what shops it was near. (damn Japanese street address system, or lack of it, is burning me here!). Anyway, he says he understands and he's on the way. Cool! Part 2 passed. 10 minutes later I get a ring on the intercom from the lobby - it's her. I buzz her up and pray to certain deities that I can get the job done. She opens the door, sees my face, and takes a big start, and a small step back. No, I don't look so scary, but she clearly wasn't expecting a gaijin, and out comes her keitai and she calls (I presume) the driver. Oh shit, so close yet so far, I'm thinking. But all she says to him is "OK, I'm inside".

Go team!

She looks at me with a sly smile now and says, "Gee you really fooled the driver, he told me you were Japanese. And your Japanese is pretty good, isn't it!" I give the traditional demur. Money is exchanged first, 18,000 yen for 50 min course. A bit pricey, but I've got some options added to the standard course, so I can't complain. She seems nice and apart from the initial shock, she's cool with me. She asks if she can take a shower, and does, I get mostly undressed and 5 mins later I'm hitting it. She listed deep throat as one of her specialties and I asked for some of that, it wasn't really deep throat but I gave her an A for enthusiasm, she really tried to get down on it, but couldn't really get her nose in my pubis. Anyway it was a good blow. She is super thin, which is a bonus for me - other guys probably want more meat on the bones, but not I. I ask for an ass lick and she gets down there with great enthusiasm. Wow - I should have taken a shower too, I think to myself with a smile. Too bad I took a dump already that day, but she doesn't mind at all. I'm not into full sex, so we don't go there, but I'm sure she would have if I wanted. Then I ask if I can come in her mouth and she's like "hells yeah! Some girls don't like that but I'm a different type. Shoot it in me". The clouds parted and a ray of light shone down from heaven. Angels sung.

When we finished we chatted for a while, she cleaned up, I destroyed evidence. I wanted to get as much info for future attempts as I possibly could, so I turned conversation over to gaijin customers and how we can maximize chance of getting some deriheru. She said she's fine with gaijin (American she clarifies) - she guesses I'm American, but I'm not, but if they were Chinese, she wonders whether she could communicate smoothly - that might be a dealbreaker, she thinks. She said, I should be fine with her shop, but some girls might refuse, she's not sure.

Then we played some video games and chatted until the time ran out and she left. I got a yoroshiku, so I think I can call on her again.

Data:
*Body Type - slender, really slender. An A-cup by American standards.
*Face - kitsune, but not so attractive. Not a real turn off, but not a looker either.
*Kinkyness - yup.
* Friendliness - yup
*Technique - Mixed emotions, the Deepthroat was a dissapointment, but really, after 10 years in Japan, I didn't really expect a true deepthroat. It was OK. The ass-licking was long, full and thorough.
GFE - very.

Cheers to all! If your Japanese language (written and spoken) is good enough, give them a try.

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[QUOTE=Grossman]
I am a total white boy, but with reasonable Japanese (about level 2, ni-kyuu) so I guess I have a chance of passing myself off as Japanese in an email or on the phone. So I switch the language on my computer over to Japanese, surf a few deriheru sites and come across one I've seen a few times before: [url]http://ikenai.jp/main.html[/url]
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Don't mean to burst your bubble, but ikenai okusan is totally gaijin friendly. You would have gotten a girl whether or not they thought you were gaijin. I've used the place since I got to Osaka, and I'll take my friends there too. This place also happens to be a hotel health so you can go their store and for the same price as delivery get a girl (hotel fee isn't technically included, it's 3000 extra but delivery is 3000 more than heading to the store so it's the same price).

Edit:
To clarify they're gaijin friendly as long as you speak Japanese. If you don't they probably won't help you.

[QUOTE=Zcorps]Don't mean to burst your bubble, but ikenai okusan is totally gaijin friendly. You would have gotten a girl whether or not they thought you were gaijin. I've used the place since I got to Osaka, and I'll take my friends there too. This place also happens to be a hotel health so you can go their store and for the same price as delivery get a girl (hotel fee isn't technically included, it's 3000 extra but delivery is 3000 more than heading to the store so it's the same price).

Edit:
To clarify they're gaijin friendly as long as you speak Japanese. If you don't they probably won't help you.[/QUOTE]

Nice report, Grossman. Glad to know of another Gaijin-friendly winner.

For novices:
Delivery until 7pm is 70min/18,000-so unless the delivery is to your home or business hotel you are probably better off with the Hotel plan, since that is 70min/15,000+hotel 2-3,000

If you search out the specials you can save 2-5,000 at many shops.

I had a late 20s gal who'd rank a 7 or 8 the other day through a "free" course (meaning they chose who to sent). She said her shop doesn't care the nationality, as long as you can communicate your address and request you are good to go. Sometimes they tell her it will be a foreigner, sometimes they don't. Hard to say whether they know over the phone or not.
10,000+3000 transport+2700 hotel=15,700 total for 77minutes.

[QUOTE=Zcorps]Don't mean to burst your bubble, but ikenai okusan is totally gaijin friendly. You would have gotten a girl whether or not they thought you were gaijin. I've used the place since I got to Osaka, and I'll take my friends there too. This place also happens to be a hotel health so you can go their store and for the same price as delivery get a girl (hotel fee isn't technically included, it's 3000 extra but delivery is 3000 more than heading to the store so it's the same price).

Edit:

To clarify they're gaijin friendly as long as you speak Japanese. If you don't they probably won't help you.[/QUOTE]Ahh, that's interesting. But there are so many sites, and I've been refused before for simply stating in an email that I was a foreigner, so I thought I'd pulled a coup this time.

Anyway, would you care to share any other deri places you know of that are J-speaker, gaijin friendly?

[QUOTE=Lion]There are a couple of these posts recently.
I suspect they are just teasers, but anyone with a valid experience speak up.

[url]http://osaka.craigslist.jp/cas/1207934090.html[/url]
[url]http://osaka.craigslist.jp/cas/1183248542.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Since they seemed to be in my neighborhood, I sent an email. I got replies back pretty fast, apparently from the husband. He was saying that I could come by even that day, or pretty much anytime I wanted since we lived so close. I asked for pics or stats of the wife and was largely ignored; and when my only mail was for asking about the wife, I never heard back from him.

Verdict? Might be real, but the wife may not be anything you would actually want. I'd say don't waste your time.

[QUOTE=Grossman]Ahh, that's interesting. But there are so many sites, and I've been refused before for simply stating in an email that I was a foreigner, so I thought I'd pulled a coup this time.

Anyway, would you care to share any other deri places you know of that are J-speaker, gaijin friendly?[/QUOTE]

I am happy to share via PM. I don't like posting my favorites to the whole membership though as some asshole will fuck it up for me (I'm talking from experience here).