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[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1516540]Forbes left it off their top 16 places.[/QUOTE]Here's a quick synopsis of places that may be of interest from their list:

1. Panama.

2. Ecuador.

3. Malaysia.

4. Costa Rica.

6. Colombia.

7. Mexico.

10. Thailand.

17. Philippines.

24. Cambodia.

The Philippines got its lowest score in Special Benefits: This category considers government provisions that make moving to and living in each country easier and more affordable for foreign retirees. Second lowest was climate (which includes natural disasters).

[QUOTE=JPF;1516761]The Philippines got its lowest score in Special Benefits: This category considers government provisions that make moving to and living in each country easier and more affordable for foreign retirees. Second lowest was climate (which includes natural disasters).[/QUOTE]Did they also include the fact that any foreigner can be quickly declared persona-non-grata, if he steps on any local's foot?

On that score, it should be right at the bottom.

But, hey, as per SWS, Philippines is doing good for other things. Why fret?

Hi,

I have 10 days in Phil from 31 March.

I plan to spend 3 days in Manila, but wondered what to do with the rest / Originally, I thought a week in Angeles, but wonder whether Cebu or Davao would offer more variety?

Any thoughts?

Peter

I've been in Thailand for almost six weeks. One thing I was not prepared for was how [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor most Thai's English language skills are. It's kind of been a spoiler on the holiday (no one can answer questions about local customs) and on mongering. I was planning to enjoy six weeks play here then go somewhere more exotic (such as Burma) for some cultural tourism, but really I am so disappointed by the linguistic (and other) skills of the girls that I have bedded here that I am thinking of going to the Philippines, where apparently the girls can string a couple of sentences together.

From ISG's web site the girls in PLP are far prettier / skinnier. So some advice please – it I reschedule what can I expect in the Philippines, how do living / hotel / girl costs compare to Thailand and hats a good destination to choose?

Thanks in advance.

Ripple

[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1517520]Hi,

I have 10 days in Phil from 31 March.

I plan to spend 3 days in Manila, but wondered what to do with the rest / Originally, I thought a week in Angeles, but wonder whether Cebu or Davao would offer more variety?

Any thoughts?

Peter[/QUOTE]There's discussion on Cebu vs. Davao not too far back, but I would just remind you that Davao isn't the best place for fast sex unless you like gays or a limited selection of pros. The girls here are conservative for the most part. There's thousands of college students but you're not going to have much luck sitting by UM trying to find someone to help with their tuition. (Don't ask how I know that). You're not going to see independents roaming the malls waiting for you. You may have luck in the clubs if you can handle that, or you may get lucky just strolling around if you got decent looks and game. I accomplished a personal best today, I planted my sterile seeds in three beautiful 18 and 19 year old's in less than 24 hours, and two were sisters. But it took months to get to the point of having a steady stream of quality. One was a sales clerk at the mall and the younger sister I think I met outside the mall, I don't remember it was so long ago. I just remember that she stood me up two times, left me sitting in the meeting place, no text, nothing because she is so shy. That happens most of the time. I have at least a couple hundred numbers in my phone, but 95% of them Ill probably never see again. They will text you, but it's hard to get them to meet again. They're usually "bzy"

[QUOTE=Ripple67; 1517529]From ISG's web site the girls in PLP are far prettier / skinnier. So some advice please.

Ripple[/QUOTE]Smaller, I think so, but Skinnier? Not sure about that. Their diet is horrific compared to Thais. A girl came to my place and she was starving. I served her a smoothie made of strawberries, blueberries, tropical fruits, nuts and coconut water along with a bowl of cashews. She preferred to starve. Last week, I offered 2 girls buko. It's these coconut stands where they dilute the buko water with sugar and something else. They were so excited until I brought them whole coconuts with straws. I drank 3 coconuts.

[QUOTE=Ripple67; 1517529]I am so disappointed by the linguistic (and other) skills of the girls that I have bedded here that I am thinking of going to the Philippines, where apparently the girls can string a couple of sentences together.

From ISG's web site the girls in PLP are far prettier / skinnier. Ripple[/QUOTE]As PS points out, diet is not good. The poor ones in rural areas may not have a lot of dietary options, and many poor Filipinos in the urban areas just gravitate to candy, soda, and snacks-in addition to a steady diet of plain rice. The svelte lines of women in the photo gallery probably reflect the selectivity of ISG photographers more than some body type that's inherent among the natives.

Most women do speak enough English to make communication possible, but for many the reason they are working as pros is that they do not have enough education to get other kinds of jobs. Many, perhaps most, of the pros have not even finished high school. Many did not get past 6th grade. So they speak some English, and it improves the more they hang out with Western customers. But most will not be stringing together sentences that permit a meaningful conversation about world events, most are not very intellectually curious, and most can't name any national heroes or martyrs other than Jose Rizal, even though the streets are named after them.

But if you want a pleasant partner whose English is good enough to follow your directions during sex, the Phils is a good place to be.

[quote=skip kost;1517828]most women do speak enough english to make communication possible, but for many the reason they are working as pros is that they do not have enough education to get other kinds of jobs. many, perhaps most, of the pros have not even finished high school. many did not get past 6th grade. so they speak some english, and it improves the more they hang out with western customers. but most will not be stringing together sentences that permit a meaningful conversation about world events, most are not very intellectually curious, and most can't name any national heroes or martyrs other than jose rizal, even though the streets are named after them.[/quote]a statement of breathtaking condescension even for you, skip. when a 'pro' friend recently graduated from her college course, she sent me a bunch of her graduation photos, one of which i post here. i felt like a proud (if [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord130][CodeWord130][/url]) dad! even more pleased that my (and no doubt other patrons) financial donations to her had not been squandered. an academic she certainly is not, but nor is she a high school drop-out waster and she is able to converse, in english, quite coherently and intelligently.

she is not, by any means, unusual. i have met and 'helped' quite a few such young ladies and heard many such examples from others. just because they come from a poor and disadvantaged background doesn't mean that they are necessarily intellectually challenged or less ambitious. their ability to use the one precious commodity that they possess (need i be more explicit) to help them get ahead is often testament to their resourcefulness.

The past few times I've bought my 59 day visa upon arrival at MNL airport (thanks WC for that tip) , but next time I'm considering bypassing MNL and flying straight to Cebu or maybe even AC for a day or three before heading to Cebu. Anyone know if a 59 day visa can be purchased directly at either CRK or CEB airports or will I need to make a trip to the BOI office in Mandaue?

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1517865]A statement of breathtaking condescension even for you, Skip.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry that it came across as condescension. My thoughts at the time were guided more by resignation.

I think that your situation, and especially your ability to recruit and cultivate, gives you access to women very different than those that Ripple-to whom PS and I were responding-is likely to find. You have time available and much experience in these circles, and that gives you an angle on women that a newbie is unlikely to reach. But even in your case, haven't your recruitment methods changed over recent years? A few years ago, as I recall, your typical recruiting was from LA Cafe or Harrison Place Mall. You had it down so well that you once reported having the walk from Pedro Gil LRT station to LA Cafe gauged at about 10 minutes. I presume now you depend more on online resources and personal networks with the young women you meet.

I don't doubt that numerous college graduates come from poor families whose parents never went beyond 6th grade. I have known a few as well. Education is, in theory, the great equalizer. (I am skeptical.) And there are a few others in the forum who may similarly have access to women like those you describe. But I contend that although women from poor backgrounds make up some given percentage of the women in undergraduate study, women as a whole in poor communities will overwhelming remain uneducated and in poverty-at least for the foreseeable future. And even as increasing numbers of young Filipinas work in call centers and technology outsourcing, bringing new money into poor families, the sheer proportions of poverty and slum life in the Philippines suggest to me that this deeply entrenched poverty will dissipate very slowly. I don't think the supply of poor young single mothers that Ripple will readily find is going to dry up any time soon.

When I am in the Philippines I spend time both around well-educated professionals and also nosing about the slums-but only in the company of trusted locals. I think the description I gave about poor diet, lack of interest in world events, and so on, is an accurate depiction of the slums. Sad, but accurate. I might add to that the total incomprehension of what we call "delayed gratification." When you live constantly on the edge, the principle of reserving a little for tomorrow or planning for payoffs in the future-such as foregoing leisure in order to complete a college education-is an incomprehensible idea. I believe these are the women Ripple is most likely to meet.

By the way, the financial support you lend to these young women has a growing parallel in the states. We have entire websites and use of personals in Craigslist for the "sugarbabes" phenomenon. Young women looking for a helping hand from well-healed gentlemen to support them through college. A few hours on her back replaces many tiring hours waiting tables or cashiering at the Target store. In the Philippines we might regard it as a form of economic development with beneficial outcomes. In the states it merely reflects our declining political will to underwrite public higher education for the masses.

If this discussion continues we should consider moving it to another thread.

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger;1517927]The past few times I've bought my 59 day visa upon arrival at MNL airport (thanks WC for that tip) , but next time I'm considering bypassing MNL and flying straight to Cebu or maybe even AC for a day or three before heading to Cebu. Anyone know if a 59 day visa can be purchased directly at either CRK or CEB airports or will I need to make a trip to the BOI office in Mandaue?[/QUOTE]Not at Cebu as when I once asked "where can I get a 59 day visa as I can in Manila" the immigration officer looked dumbfounded. Ignorant actually. But you can always get the extension when in Cebu while you extend yourself on more meaty and perverse matters Pip.

Now this may have changed since I last asked but things don't move fast in the country.

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger;1517927]The past few times I've bought my 59 day visa upon arrival at MNL airport (thanks WC for that tip) , but next time I'm considering bypassing MNL and flying straight to Cebu or maybe even AC for a day or three before heading to Cebu. Anyone know if a 59 day visa can be purchased directly at either CRK or CEB airports or will I need to make a trip to the BOI office in Mandaue?[/QUOTE]It can be got at Cebu, as I have done a few times but not at Clark but as you know every thing can change 1 day to the next.

[QUOTE=Paulr1950;1518008]It can be got at cebu, as I have done a few times but not at clark but as you know every thing can change 1 day to the next[/QUOTE]Thanks Paul, but where in the airport as see my last FR I have asked and got the blank stare from the passport officer so I gave up and did t the other way.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1517972]I'm sorry that it came across as condescension. My thoughts at the time were guided more by resignation.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I guess that I was just trying to get you ticking, Skip. You are right, of course. The kind of girl that the majority of members here will encounter is far different than my target audience. This is not to denigrate anybody as the majority of the players who come to The Philippines are far more hamstrung by time constraints than I. So they have, by necessity, to gravitate towards the packaged side of the market. This consists mainly of bargirls and available dating site contacts. The former are often the type of girl you describe, ignorant, poorly educated and often single mothers, usually lifted directly from their provincial barangays and plonked directly into the bar scenes of Manila, Angeles and Cebu. The latter is much more my fertile hunting ground but I have the advantage of more time and patience to spend in the development of contacts and potential and being in location to exploit it. A girl who most of the time would not dream of meeting a foreign stranger for NSA sex, suddenly finds herself in need of rapid cash and it is then that on-site opportunists, such as me, are in position to help. This has happened numerous times.

You are also correct in that my modus operandi has altered quite a bit over the years. As I have got older, so my methods have changed and become much more cerebral. I used to enjoy the thrill and excitement of the on-the-ground pussy chase in the malls, on the streets, in fast food joints and in bars such as LA Cafe in its heyday (MBC in its present form is a pale shadow of its former glory). Nowadays most of my hunting is done online and by texts and video calls. Far less exciting but much safer and more comfortable. I still enjoy the thrill of the chase but largely do it now from the comfort of home.

BTW. I think that the concept of 'delayed gratification' is one that is completely alien to the Filipino mentality per se. Filipinos are, in my experience, default set to live for the moment and have limited ability to forward plan and to sacrifice the 'now' for a better future.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1518042]Thanks Paul, but where in the airport as see my last FR I have asked and got the blank stare from the passport officer so I gave up and did t the other way.[/QUOTE]I did not try it my self, but on the non-monger cebu site I read, the say it can be done in cebu.

"when you arrive at Mactan on an incoming international flight, you go through passport control before claiming your bags and going to customs, right? Before you go through the passport booths to get your passport stamped, you will see an office door on the back wall (I think it's even got a sign saying "Immigration""