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[QUOTE=Chimmy31;1180303]I actually did look at the hotels, Makati and that Agoda site. LOL I just don't want to be too far from the action. Like ABC was just right in Angeles. It was a nice hotel with the action not too far away.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2505-Manila-Hotels&p=1174925&viewfull=1#post1174925[/url]

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I'll be making my second trip to Phils in early Sept. Last time was 3 years ago. I stayed in Makati near Burgos and it was wonderful. I will be in Phils for about a week. I was thinking about doing half Manila and half Cebu. My question is, Is it worth it to spend the money and take the time to fly to Cebu? How does Cebu compare to Manila?

I have met a lot of hot girls on dating sites from Cebu and it seems inviting. On the other hand I don't think I could go wrong spending the whole week in Manila. Looking for advise from people who are familiar with both.

[QUOTE=W20415; 1180549]I'll be making my second trip to Phils in early Sept. Last time was 3 years ago. I stayed in Makati near Burgos and it was wonderful. I will be in Phils for about a week. I was thinking about doing half Manila and half Cebu. My question is, Is it worth it to spend the money and take the time to fly to Cebu? How does Cebu compare to Manila?

I have met a lot of hot girls on dating sites from Cebu and it seems inviting. On the other hand I don't think I could go wrong spending the whole week in Manila. Looking for advise from people who are familiar with both.[/QUOTE]Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I dislike manila. But I like cebu angeles subic and puerto galera.

Hahahhaa. To me manila way too expensive and too crowded. One big ghetto.

Now if I had money to burn and did not have the numerous girlfriends to support I may go bar hop more in p burgos.

I have met some really nice and hot girls there but my money and my mind does better in other places.

If you want some beach then you go to cebu. Bohol puerto galera, subic. Batangas.

In cebu you can get lots of action at the clubs and the discos and the dating sites.

In manila you got one big city but theaters. Restaurants even a nice aquarium.

Taal lake for a day trip?

Some depends on weather but it really depends on what you like. You want to explore and see more? Ocean? Or just have some hot.

Fun with girls? Variety is the spice of life to me. But up to you?

Although I mostly agree with GE and AV, I do think it is possible for the girl to at least initially truly love an older man. I believe that her feelings are probably sincere at this point.

However, if you put her up in an apartment and she really does live on her own, what will she do during the day? She will no longer have a job to keep her busy so if you met online, she'll probably spend her days at the internet cafes online and will most likely start chatting with other guys and meet others.

Even though her initial feelings may have been legit, there is just too much likelihood that she will do just as AV and GE said.

Someone else brought up the point about her family and that shouldn't be taken lightly. I had a regular bar girl I saw about 7 or 8 years ago and she wanted to go back to school. She had been coming to my hotel after work almost daily and I never gave her money so I think I gave her about 10, 000 pesos (back when it was 56 pesos / dollar) for school.

When I next spoke to her, she had given it to her older brother because he needed the money to finish his school and she was "obligated" to give it to him rather than her starting school because her parents forced her to do it. It wouldn't have been appropriate for her to go to school and have her brother drop out so even though the money was given to her to go to school, she "had to" give it to her brother.

In other words, although intentions and feelings may be true now, they are very likely to be changed in the near future.

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[QUOTE=Orange Crust; 1180306]While I understand your wishful and dream filled thinking. Please give your head a shake. There's a reason why most landlords won't want to risk renting to an 18 yo without a parental guarantee here in the US and without some solid income trackrecord. She's not ready for her own western style apartment (you will likely want some ammenities like air con, a bedroom etc) instead of some basic flop house.

I would guess once you depart, you will have her parents, sisters, cousins etc moving in just so they can come find a job without caring about the cost of living there. Man, the apartment can be stripped one item at a time and you won't even know it till you get back. Hate to see you liable for the lost goods.

If I were in your shoes, send cash to support her finding her own place. Don't do anything in your name so you just limit your risk to money sent. I honestly feel off encouraging someone to send money to but the fact that you never met her and you've already fallen maddly in love means your at risk of making some pretty serious decisions about your life and may not be the most rational.

Best wishes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice! Yap, I am thinking with my heart and not being logical.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1180249]I have supported few girls in Phi and China. Never got married to any. All were young 18, 19 year olds. Three of them were virgins in Phi. Chinese girl was 19 but no virgin but prettiest of them all.

In China I had a apartment and the girl took care of it. She did work in the mall. Never could tell what she did when I was not around. But very GFE and always thrifty with money. She showed me the best places to eat and buy things cheap. Fizzled out after 4 years because of my mongering habit and frequent trips to Thailand and Phi.

In Phi I supported girls through college and glad to say few got a nice job and good salary. One even went to Dubai with a nice job. Once again I do not know what they did when I am not there. All of these are.

Province girls who lived with their family. I never rented a apartment. When I am there they will stay and travel with me. Nowadays I do not support anybody although I still have " girlfriends " Only give them money and gifts when I visit them.

My advice to you is to have the right mindset. Relationshipwise do not loose sleep and become a mental wreck worrying what the girl is doing. Moneywise do it only if you can afford it and consider as a donation. As long as she takes care of you during your visit it should be fine.

I always figured that if I went to the bars and barfined girls it would have cost more money overall with no guarantee of good time. With a good GFE you know you are going to be happy.

I do not know the laws about renting apt in Manila and somebody else living there. Is it going to be a problem getting rid of her?

Just work out all issues before you committ.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback! You and I have the same outlook, that is "I always figured that if I went to the bars and barfined girls it would have cost more money overall with no guarantee of good time. With a good GFE you know you are going to be happy." With a Chinese wife that nags the crap out of me (I only stay because of our child) and after having tons of hookers, I need to have a real love life again.

Good points about the apartment issues. I guess it is just best to have her stay with me at the hotel when I come to Manila and not get an apartment. In addition, provide her some type of monthly support for misc. Stuff (which would be very small amounts of money for me). Yap, I will give it a try based on my new plan and see how it works out. Regarding getting rid of her, now that I am in my 50s, I was thinking of keeping her for as long as I can (if she is really a virgin). The idea of having a young (over 18) , sweet, cute, and loving virgin that really loves me (so she says) makes me feel alive! If she is for real (e. g, she feels true love for me and she is a virgin) , I will not get rid of her. If she start to nag me or make demands, the the dream comes to end and I am gone.

[QUOTE=MauiDude; 1180257]To me that says a lot about the situation and good advice. Great report.

I have several girls that I support.

Yes its a matter of choice to me and I stay with in my budget.

I don't worry if they have other boyfriends etc. And actually I expect they do so I don't headtrip.

What matters most. Is can I afford it. And what expierence do I have when they are with me.

And how much bs and lies they tell me.

Now I have expierenced with more bar girls but a few province girls.

The bar girls have a tendency to have more boyfriends but leave any girl alone and she will have lots of opportunities.

I would not put anything in my name and be able to walk away.

And I look at it like a gift.

Now I am having girls I give like 5000 pesos a month to. They can stay with their parents or rent a room. Up to them.

But they better be available for me when I am there unless there is a good verifiable reason not to be.

I love bar girls but also want stability and GFE and no drama and no complications with a girl.

So if I find one then I keep her on retainer. I give her more money when I am with her.

The biggest problem is how do you handle her requests for more money.

As most of the requests may involve bs and lies?

If they ask for too much more money I cut them off.

Or just don't answer.

And see what they do.

If I can verify something then I may give more depending on how much time I may spend with her and how my expierence is when with her.

It can get a little complicated.

But if you can afford it and you really like the girl then why not.

Bar girls are still hit and miss and then you have more risks of the unknown and infections etc.

Not that a steady girl will be perfect but its how you feel and what you really want. Just don't ignore the warning signs.

Lots more can be said but if you tend to be jealous and only have a little time with the girl maybe its not for you?

]if you enjoy the girl much more then the other girls you meet and have some kind of feelings for her and you watch the signs.

Then why not if you can afford it.

For a one hour bad expierence in the USA I can support a girl or two for a month. So I do. But then right now I am ten months a year in Philippines[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input. The thing I like about this girl is that she is not a bar girl and just a regular working (maid) Flipina looking for love. I know she is poor from the way she dress when I see her on Skype, but she has never asked me for money in the 4 months I have known her. Of course, girls can say anything, but she seems to be for real. I guess I will find out soon enough. Thanks again.

Thanks to all the guys for your feedback! I got lots to think about.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh; 1181283]Thanks for the feedback! You and I have the same outlook, that is "I always figured that if I went to the bars and barfined girls it would have cost more money overall with no guarantee of good time. With a good GFE you know you are going to be happy." With a Chinese wife that nags the crap out of me (I only stay because of our child) and after having tons of hookers, I need to have a real love life again.

Good points about the apartment issues. I guess it is just best to have her stay with me at the hotel when I come to Manila and not get an apartment. In addition, provide her some type of monthly support for misc. Stuff (which would be very small amounts of money for me). Yap, I will give it a try based on my new plan and see how it works out. Regarding getting rid of her, now that I am in my 50s, I was thinking of keeping her for as long as I can (if she is really a virgin). The idea of having a young (over 18) , sweet, cute, and loving virgin that really loves me (so she says) makes me feel alive! If she is for real (e. G, she feels true love for me and she is a virgin) , I will not get rid of her. If she start to nag me or make demands, the the dream comes to end and I am gone.[/QUOTE]Undercoverh,

A lot of guys have done what you dream of doing. It sounds good on the surface, your own private young virginal puss to bareback. On the other hand, it will most likely not work out as you envision. Providing her with an apartment, money and lots of free time will only enable her to spend more time online finding and fucking the horny well hung young studs she truly desires. Recognize the fact that as an old man she will never love you as she would a handsome young boy of her own age. You will always be seen primarily as a means of support at best and a perverted old grandfather at worst. If her friends find out about you she will deny that she has sex with you. I know of a 77 yrs old Filipino American currently in the circumstance that you're contemplating placing yourself. You will never have her for yourself. There will be a younger local boyfriend or two sexing her whenever you're away. Face it, young Filipinas have voracious sexual appetites and many of them want it 10 to 12 times a day. The local young men have no trouble satisfying this need with all of the cheap Viagra and Cialis floating around on the streets and the lack of jobs to keep them busy otherwise. You will not be able to keep up in more ways than one. They'll stud your pretty young thing and she'll use your money to keep them happy with Red Horse and shabu. At the end of it all you'll still feel empty in addition to wanting to blown your brains out for having been a silly old goat doting over some young puss that fed you a bunch of bull and took your money. Last night in the bar I heard a bar girl loudly and forcefully declaring to a potbellied bald headed old monger that money didn't matter only love. All the while she milked him for lady drinks. I couldn't stop laughing every time she opened her mouth. It's okay to be a sentimental old fool sometimes as long as you remember incontrovertible rule when it comes to foreigners and Filipinas. Money is always Number 1, family is Number 2, and stupid foreigner comes somewhere after the family's water buffalo.

It's not all doom and gloom though. It's entirely possible have some type of relationship with the girl without putting her in an apartment and providing her with a salary. You can simply take her shopping, take care of her medical needs and let her stay with you in a nice hotel during your visits. If you wish you can even hand off some pesos for her to spend as she likes at the end of the visit. Don't ever get into wiring money. The girls can't handle it. The easy money is like heroin and soon her family and friends will have her contacting you with bullshit stories to have you wire more on a regular basis. As long as you're generous while in town she will show up to be with you. Let the benefits you provide in her company be the incentive for her to show up and stick around. Don't ever start thinking that it's true love but she'll be a girlfriend to you and your needs will be mutually satisfied.

Watch out for the money changer next to EDSA Complex called World Travel Money Changers. The girl there quoted me an exchage rate of 42 PHP "flat" for US dollars. I laughed and walked about 10 feet to the money changer next door called Susan and got a rate of 42. 70 PHP to the dollar. Don't get fleeced!

Please beware of carrying viagra or kamagra with you at the airport. I was threatened with arrest for carrying only 2 kamagra pills. I was very stupid to have left it in my pocket. So please empty all your bags and pockets before walking through their immigration baggage check points and scanners.

[QUOTE=W20415; 1180549]I'll be making my second trip to Phils in early Sept. Last time was 3 years ago. I stayed in Makati near Burgos and it was wonderful. I will be in Phils for about a week. I was thinking about doing half Manila and half Cebu. My question is, Is it worth it to spend the money and take the time to fly to Cebu? How does Cebu compare to Manila?

I have met a lot of hot girls on dating sites from Cebu and it seems inviting. On the other hand I don't think I could go wrong spending the whole week in Manila. Looking for advise from people who are familiar with both.[/QUOTE]Since you have been to Makati before and had a good time, I would go with what you know. One week goes by very quickly so I would pick one or the other. Personally, I spend as little time in Manila as possible. So leave the Cebuanas to the Cebu guys! :D

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1181294]Thanks to all the guys for your feedback! I got lots to think about.[/QUOTE]I know of many men who have successfull relationship with 20 something girls. Most are permanently living in Phi. For them nothing to worry as long as they take care of the girl and family with money.

Sexwise she may or may not have some guys on the side servicing her needs.

As for your situation " Married otherwise known as practically dead " who needs a extra spark to reinvigorate yourself this is a perfect solution.

I do not know whether this girl is a real virgin or not matters to you? If you like her after meeting you can decide to have a long term supporting relationship.

Only thing I am worried about you jumping from fire to a vat of hot oil.

Having said it is good to have a loving girlfriend. If you keep a open mind it will work. If you are a worrywad it will not work.

I went to see a Ormoc girl who was 18 a while ago. She told me she is a virgin. But she confessed she had been with a European guy for two years who was 73 years old and recently passed away. So she is looking for.

Another sponsor. After meeting her I found out she sold her virginity to him for a big sum of money (Hurray to Viagra ).

Still a sweet and good looking girl. Only reason I did not sponsor her is because her mother was questioning everything. Mother was separated with another two kids. I knew if I got involved I would have to support four people.

Here is a pic of the girl