FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[QUOTE=CaptCabin; 1359064]It seems that smoky jack has the same taste in the girls that we like yakob. Though he thinks we are the same person LOL.

I am glad jenny lick your gold balls and smoky kissed her.

Vanessa eat my cum 3 times and lick my love honeys and smoky kisses her with dfk and GFE (I don't kiss vanessa / montana as she smell of ciggs.)

Yakob I think me, you and smoky should meet at a club and we share a girl for gangbang. I do the girl first, then you do her and then we pass her to smoky as he likes the girl that love us lLOL[/QUOTE]I have said this too. We are not the same person. You cannot make up some of the stuff that Smokey Jack writes.

I am also glad that Jenny licks my balls and Smoky kiss her too. I not want it any other way.

I not go with Vanessa so no problem there. If she smell and taste like cigarettes like skinny ass Karina at World then she is not getting any tongue and tonsil love from me if I ever did go with her.

Well, we may see each other in the weekend before Christmas or the days before Silvester when I am also in the clubs seeing what the holiday line up is going to be like. Hey, Smoky, are you around too at this time? Captcabin and I are going to be around at the same time? Then you will know we are two different guys.

I may have to a disagree with you on the ordering of the girl we gangbang. We can draw lots of who is first and who must go next and so on to stir the porridge in the girl so to speak. Smoky, are you okay to go last? It will be fun. You must have gang bang on your bucket list of things to do. You can do it with your buddies from ISG.

[QUOTE=Yakob; 1343244]Palace appears to be putting on a Silvester party on 31. 12. 12.

Palace last year was also open on 24. 12. No indication if Palace is also open 24. 12 this year.[/QUOTE]Admission is 75 euro for men and for couples still for the Silvester party. There is even a note that entrance for the women is free.

There is notes in the Palace club that say in the second week of January 2013 that the entry price goes up to 80€.

[quote=the cane; 1355983]i did my duty and porked claudia in her big, round, ukrainian buttocks lol! thing of it is, when a tute talks to me this way, it becomes difficult for me to cum because my dick just gets hard and stays hard! lol! we kept at it with my slapping nuts deep flush up against claudia's phat ukrainian hind cheeks until i finally did pop off inside of her [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] cute. i had such a good session with claudia that i boned her in the ass again on my second visit to palace, this time with her belly down and her face mashed into the pillow, and my weight all up on her back and big ukrainian arse. i looked down at her moaning and groaning and grimacing face as i hunched away against her pliable and malleable buttocks cheeks. digging away into her "chunnel" until it was time for another nut bust. queen chanel of world is dead! long live queen claudia of the palace!

as a side note, claudia told me that she didn't know how much longer she would be in the business, but that she did intend to remain in germany. she said that whether she was working or not, she wanted me to call her the next time i was in town because she would make sure to set some time aside to see me while i'm there. we exchanged contact info. we shall see.[/quote]great work in claudia's bubble butt. keep up the dirty work. lol.

buttguy

[QUOTE=Taiyo;1361967]Hannah is now at Palace.[/QUOTE]It seems a number of good girls from Oase and World have moved to the Palace. I no sure that they are all there still but there are many girls that I used to fuck are now at the Palace. Samantha, Mariella, Lia, Guetta, Nikki. Some of these girls have even moved on from the Palace.

[QUOTE=Yakob;1362067]It seems a number of good girls from Oase and World have moved to the Palace. I no sure that they are all there still but there are many girls that I used to fuck are now at the Palace. .[/QUOTE]All I know is that I enjoyed The Palace more than any other club during my last visit. Even Oase. The latter was just way too crowded and the facilities totally lacking. Also too many skinny minnies for me. Walking sticks with tits! I want some feminine curves! Gina pissed me off, but it was finding Claudia that set the whole tone. Just goes to show how the scene can and does change!

Been there last Sunday night.

Payed 75 Euros entrance, there were almost 35 ladies a few men around. Stayed 3. 5 hours and left without any sexual encounter. Just enjoyed some OK food at the restaurant and the facilities which are good. Management also is very polite. But.

Most of the ladies were sharks. For 50 Euros almost nobody kissed at the mouth and when I was asking for it they were always upselling to 100 Euros for half an hour with kissing!

Awful attitude, some of them after I politely refused to go in the room even send me to fuck-off, I felt offended cause I was always trying to avoid them in a very polite way, finally I got upset, I answered angry at them a couple of times and the magic was gone. (I really wonder if it is better to say them directly that you are not my type and end it there)

(by the way: avoid a Romanian who says to come from Egypt, black hair bitchy face and attitude, a Polish tall with big breasts blond very fake behaviour when talking (says a lot what is going to happen after, another Romanian who says to come from Lithuania, blond platin painted hair, very nice body, arrogant, and when I asked her which city she told me annoyed. From Riga.)

I spoke almost with all of them clicked with a few (a Russian from Moscow a Spanish from Canarias) but they were average in looks so I did not go further.

Guys, my opinion is that Palace, being in a big city like Frankfurt is a place for "amateurs" or better for a Franfurt's visitor convenience: I mean if somebody has been to GT or World or OASE, feels immediately that there is a much different vibe. To compare, it is the (Amsterdam) red light district of Frankfurt for those who know what this means. Lots of local men, tourists whatever who spoil the girls' attitude and raise the prices.

So my opinion is generally to avoid it if possible and move to the North part of Franfurt in those better hidden gems of sauna clubs. Of course if you are a newbie it is going to impress you but for those who have lived the real fkk experience will be a disappointment.

[QUOTE=Comvos2002; 1362374]Been there last Sunday night.

(by the way: avoid a Romanian who says to come from Egypt, black hair bitchy face and attitude)

I spoke almost with all of them clicked with a few (a Russian from Moscow a Spanish from Canarias) but they were average in looks so I did not go further.

Guys, my opinion is that Palace, being in a big city like Frankfurt is a place for "amateurs" or better for a Frankfurt's visitor convenience: I mean if somebody has been to GT or World or OASE, feels immediately that there is a much different vibe. To compare, it is the (Amsterdam) red light district of Frankfurt for those who know what this means. Lots of local men, tourists whatever who spoil the girls' attitude and raise the prices.

So my opinion is generally to avoid it if possible and move to the North part of Frankfurt in those better hidden gems of sauna clubs. Of course if you are a newbie it is going to impress you but for those who have lived the real fkk experience will be a disappointment.[/QUOTE]Surprise, surprise regarding "The Egyptian" LOL! Also agree about the Russian. Actually, to me she's less than average and just plain unattractive. Don't know the Espanola. I would normally agree with you regarding many of your conclusions about The Palace, but I think some of your assessment is a bit harsh. I am a seasoned monger who found several sessions to be to my liking during my last visit. And except for Gina the Czech who does not kiss (and no longer allows herself to be eaten out of 69 apparently) , I had no problem getting kissing from the three other girls I did there. Although, I almost always get hour long sessions. That's my personal preference. I too would normally rank The Palace towards the bottom. That's why I wrote the subject heading of my previous post in this thread as a question. Is The Palace on the rise? We shall see. Probably not over the long haul. For you, it clearly is not.

[QUOTE=Comvos2002; 1362374]Been there last Sunday night.

Payed 75 Euros entrance, there were almost 35 ladies a few men around. Stayed 3. 5 hours and left without any sexual encounter. Just enjoyed some OK food at the restaurant and the facilities which are good. Management also is very polite. But.

Most of the ladies were sharks. For 50 Euros almost nobody kissed at the mouth and when I was asking for it they were always upselling to 100 Euros for half an hour with kissing!

Awful attitude, some of them after I politely refused to go in the room even send me to fuck-off, I felt offended cause I was always trying to avoid them in a very polite way, finally I got upset, I answered angry at them a couple of times and the magic was gone. (I really wonder if it is better to say them directly that you are not my type and end it there)

(by the way: avoid a Romanian who says to come from Egypt, black hair bitchy face and attitude, a Polish tall with big breasts blond very fake behaviour when talking (says a lot what is going to happen after, another Romanian who says to come from Lithuania, blond platin painted hair, very nice body, arrogant, and when I asked her which city she told me annoyed. From Riga.)

I spoke almost with all of them clicked with a few (a Russian from Moscow a Spanish from Canarias) but they were average in looks so I did not go further.

Guys, my opinion is that Palace, being in a big city like Frankfurt is a place for "amateurs" or better for a Franfurt's visitor convenience: I mean if somebody has been to GT or World or OASE, feels immediately that there is a much different vibe. To compare, it is the (Amsterdam) red light district of Frankfurt for those who know what this means. Lots of local men, tourists whatever who spoil the girls' attitude and raise the prices.

So my opinion is generally to avoid it if possible and move to the North part of Franfurt in those better hidden gems of sauna clubs. Of course if you are a newbie it is going to impress you but for those who have lived the real fkk experience will be a disappointment.[/QUOTE]Perhaps more of us that have bad experience should write to the management about these issues. After all we don't go to these places to get told to Fuck off by the girls in there. We go there to relax.

[QUOTE=CheekyDancer;1363471]Perhaps more of us that have bad experience should write to the management about these issues. After all we don't go to these places to get told to Fuck off by the girls in there. We go there to relax.[/QUOTE]To be honest, as the years go by, the girls get less and less happy with a fiddy for 30 mins. The level of upsell increases. So I think that there has got to be a price increase eventually no matter how much the customers don't want it. How many years has 50 been the price? Fortunately the girls avoid paying a lot of tax and that helps keep prices down. I also think that we get mainly girls from poorer countries of origin, because the money is not good enough. Girls always liked me (in the past) as I rarely did just 30 mins.

Okay I know that a very smart girl who gives consistent good service, can make a lot of money and attract customers to long sessions. E. G. At Oase, Lena was a champion of making money, with long sessions and extras. I don't know a relevant example at the Palace right now. Thai Bee used to do quite well (even without doing extras) only working 3 to 4 days per week but with many long bookings. She probably knew how to talk to customers in the right way too.

Most of the customers make much more money than the girls make and don't even have to give BJs to get it.

Who are the really smart girls at the Palace now that have a lot of regulars and make a lot of money? I don't know as haven't attended much in the last two years. To me Alice (Dom Rep) was a good example of a georgous girl who never realised her potential due to not working smart enough and not making the customer desperate to see her again.

The market is saturated. Supply exceeds demand by far. I do see a price reduction rather than a price increase, there's too many clubs and too many girls in the clubs, driven into the job by the economical situation in the poorest of the EU countries.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1363613]The market is saturated. Supply exceeds demand by far. I do see a price reduction rather than a price increase, there's too many clubs and too many girls in the clubs, driven into the job by the economical situation in the poorest of the EU countries.

HB[/QUOTE]Interesting point.

I agree that there are far too many girls and not enough customers at some clubs, and World would be a great example in many timeslots. Also there are at times far too many girls for the number of rooms.

I am not sure the Mongering world works by supply and demand fully. Certainly in Thailand it doesn't. The less customers a girl gets, the more she needs to charge for sex. This principal could also be influencing sharky behaviour. The girls making a lot of money don't need to upsell. Those who are struggling are looking for methods to increase their return such as upsell. Perhaps a price increase would not help them. They just don't have the right attitude and smarts.

Anyway if the girls made a fair price for sex 5 years ago, then they do not now. The cost of living keeps going up. Sex is not a commodity that works by supply and demand like oil, gold, and water, I think. However, for sure the customers have the upper hand by being so few. The girls are not liking this situation.

Do any clubs regulate the number of girls to prevent too many working? Or do they all believe it is self regulating? Both you and I know its no fun waiting for a decent room when club is overcrowded.

I have noticed a sharp decline in the numbers of non-East European girls of quality working in the last few years. This has caused me to be doing mostly Romanian girls, where a few years back I was doing very few Romanian girls. How to bring back quality girls from all countries without scaring the customers away?

I see some girls just too darn ordinary to attract customers still appearing in FKK, and think why do they bother. Perhaps they still get customers very late at night after I have gone. Then there are the reasonable looking ones just too dumb to smarten up their act in the room.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1363633]Do any clubs regulate the number of girls to prevent too many working? Or do they all believe it is self regulating? Both you and I know its no fun waiting for a decent room when club is overcrowded.

I have noticed a sharp decline in the numbers of non-East European girls of quality working in the last few years. This has caused me to be doing mostly Romanian girls, where a few years back I was doing very few Romanian girls. How to bring back quality girls from all countries without scaring the customers away?[/QUOTE]Waiting for a room does only happen on Fridays, Saturdays, parties and very rarely on weekdays late at night. It's not a question of the club regulating the number of girls, although that would help the remaining girls to make the moeny they expext. It's not a good development that the clubs are making a growing part of their money from the girls and not the customers.

Some clubs have prices lower than 50€/30min (Acapulco and others) , all NRW clubs are at 37. 50€/30min if you book an hour. We will see what will happen in Hessen and other areas. Sakura years ago was at 55 pr 60€/30min, they had to go back to 50€/30min.

Girls from Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic and other EU countries are getting fewer and fewer as the standard of living in theses countries is going up. So now Ro and Bu are the poorest countries in the EU that allow girls / pimps to work legally in Germany without too many hurdles. So you will see many girls from these countries for the next years. If poorer countries will join the EU they will probably form the majority of girls in the clubs.

HB

Quick question for a reminder because it's been years since I've been to a sauna club like Goldentime. What is the cost of a third and fourth half hour?

Here are the members of EU and year of entry.

It's very clear and interesting Bulgaria and Romania are the newest members.

Austria (1995)

Belgium (1952)

Bulgaria (2007)

Cyprus (2004)

Czech Republic (2004)

Denmark (1973)

Estonia (2004)

Finland (1995)

France (1952)

Germany (1952)

Greece (1981)

Hungary (2004)

Ireland (1973)

Italy (1952)

Latvia (2004)

Lithuania (2004)

Luxembourg (1952)

Malta (2004)

Netherlands (1952)

Poland (2004)

Portugal (1986)

Romania (2007)

Slovakia (2004)

Slovenia (2004)

Spain (1986)

Sweden (1995)

United Kingdom (1973)

Some facts on the EU and it's possible enlargement:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_the_European_Union[/url]

Here's the poorest countries in Europe:

[url]http://www.aneki.com/poorest_europe.html[/url]

Country GDP per capita.

1. Moldova $3, 400.

2. Kosovo $6, 500.

3. Ukraine $7, 300.

4. Albania $7, 800.

5. Bosnia &H $8, 200.

6. Macedonia $10, 500.

7. Serbia $10, 800.

8. Monten, $11, 700.

9. Romania $12, 600.

10. Bulgaria $13, 800.

HB