Kyiv

[QUOTE=Delwand; 1128158]I make the call and indeed the girl on the phone speaks decent english. I am relieved and ask her if she is available. She says she will be here in 20 minutes. After closer to 40 minutes she text's me that she is downstairs. I go down and greet her and Imediately realize this is not the girl I spoke to on the phone. The girl standing before me is definately the girl in the photo's so I was quite happy about that but her english is very very limited. I take her up and she ask's me in her broken english if there is a problem. I say no, I just expected you to speak english but we will make due darling don't worry. She looks at me with a blank expression as she didn't understand a word I said. I use my body language to invite her in and offer her something to drink. Her mood instantly changes and she comes in and sits on the couch. I take a seat next to her, put my arm around her and bring up google translate. We negotiate a while and come to the agreement that she would stay 3 hours for 1600 UAH. The website say's she charges 800 per hour so I guess I got an hour free bonus. I give her the cash upfront and we get down to business.[/QUOTE]I came to Kiev last week and I had similar experience, with the a few girls I found on mamba.

First you speak with a girl that is fluent in english, but the girls that arrive speaks little or no english.

I guess you were lucky that you got the girl form the photo often you don't.

As Forrest Gump would say:

Mamba is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.

I have more luck finding girls in bars / nightclubs even had one freebie so far.

I will be in Kiev for a few more days, so if you like to hookup, contact me on [email]gaus038@live.com[/email]

Ukrainian feminist activists have held a topless protest in Kiev to express outrage at the forthcoming visit of the winner of a national radio competition in New Zealand to Win a Wife.

Activists from the feminist group, which uses stripping as a shock tactic, braved wintry temperatures in central Kiev, holding banners with slogans such as 'Ukraine is not a brothel'.

I not sure this tactic will work, it may attract even more men.

[url]http://www.bt.dk/udland/fraek-noegenprotest-i-ukraine[/url]

[QUOTE=Harry Hirsch; 1128352]! DON'T DO IT!

Wish you a nice time in Kiev)[/QUOTE]I am IN Kiev right now. Very cold weather. But very good time, fun time. As less competiton than summer for freebies or even girls and prices. I have a good time. Many model typed from Mamba (indepandants) and 2 free bies (but expensive shopping) and one expensive 300 $ model type from Rio. Ask always if fotos are real and the girls is indpendant, you can know that by asking and asking and telling that you will not pay taxi for the girl if she is not real and tell them don't loose your time and my time. Try not the pink contacts. They are more indpendants. Until noe I have great girls from Mamba.

I was with Surprise in May. She is pretty and nice girl but not hot girl in sex. She had a girlfriend Angela blonde that I lost her contact number. She was great GFE CIM ANAL and all fun.

A great Kiev and great Tme. I will post later with fotos.

[QUOTE=Passata; 1128801]Ukrainian feminist activists have held a topless protest in Kiev to express outrage at the forthcoming visit of the winner of a national radio competition in New Zealand to Win a Wife.

Activists from the feminist group, which uses stripping as a shock tactic, braved wintry temperatures in central Kiev, holding banners with slogans such as 'Ukraine is not a brothel'.

I not sure this tactic will work, it may attract even more men.

[url]http://www.bt.dk/udland/fraek-noegenprotest-i-ukraine[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I missed it. I was in Kiev from 18-2 to 23-2. It was minus 10 there. Do you know where in Kiev it took place?

Delwand,

[url]http://www.top-modals.com/?id=1770#f2[/url]

Is this really girl you had? It actually says Diana, not Polina. Has the agency changed the photos?

Now it says 1200, not 800.

Any idea what happened?

I was in Kiev for 5 nights. Not much to add.

I tried Mamba for the first time. But for P4P only.

I assume to use it for Freebies, you have to stay there longer to develop relations, No?

But Mamba for P4P did not seem much different from regular escort sites, like top-modals.com. Or it was maybe even more difficult, as I had to spend a lot of time trying to communicate with them, eg. to find the girls who speak English, who reply, who call back, etc.

I had about 10 girls to call before arriving in Kiev. I only got 2 girls through Mamba. The first was OK for 100 USD. The second was not too good for 80 USD. The second one was not the girl in the photos but looked a little similar.

I also visited a bar / disco for the first time in the post RP era : Buddha Bar. Several girls, who look between 25 and 35, looked hardcore and expensive. I didn't try. I typically go for only girls under 25.

My favorite in Kiev is still massage parlors, where I always have good times.

Winter is not a good time to visit Kiev anyway. I'd love to go back there in summer again.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne; 1128905]I was in Kiev for 5 nights. Not much to add. .

Winter is not a good time to visit Kiev anyway. I'd love to go back there in summer again. [/QUOTE]It was similiar with me first time, it takes time to learn and handle the scene. And this is also rigth, winter is bad for mongering (but then the Kiev winter is a historic memorabilia). My third time in the city I had it lined up for two girls each day, sometimes adding the third from Rio (expensive but best girls for all-night passionate sex) Searching Mamba can almost be developed to become art, f. Ex. Spotting girls interested in foreigners. Non-english speaking members are hopeless. Freebies need at least two-three meetings before opening up for sex. Depending also on your looks, of course. Mamba differs IMHO vastly from escorts in that the escorts are professional but cold, the Mamba-girls are perhaps not dependable but thats part of the fun, convince them and have them open up their pretty long legs to a travelling monger for a little favour. And again. And you come again.

[QUOTE=Passata; 1128801]Ukrainian feminist activists have held a topless protest in Kiev.

I not sure this tactic will work, it may attract even more men.

[url]http://www.bt.dk/udland/fraek-noegenprotest-i-ukraine[/url][/QUOTE]Not keen on Feminist logic but I absolutely love the FEMENist version.

Don't desert the barricades, Girls!

Roll Buzz,

"Mamba differs IMHO vastly from escorts in that the escorts are professional but cold, the Mamba-girls are perhaps not dependable but thats part of the fun, convince them and have them open up their pretty long legs to a travelling monger for a little favour."

Here, are you talking about Mamba P4P girls? One of the two I saw from Mamba told me she also advertises on top-modal. Com.

It seemed to me half of Mamba P4P girls are controlled by agents who speak English. The other of the two I saw falls under this category.

What do you think about this strategy for Mamba P4P girls?

I've been wondering why not all Mamba P4P girls respond to my requests.

Can it be because I'm rather just an average looking man?

Then why not post a fake photo of a handsome man as my photo, just as some girls post fake photos of sexy girls?

Would that make more girls to reply on Mamba?

[QUOTE=Sorbonne; 1129082]What do you think about this strategy for Mamba P4P girls?

I've been wondering why not all Mamba P4P girls respond to my requests.

Can it be because I'm rather just an average looking man?

Then why not post a fake photo of a handsome man as my photo, just as some girls post fake photos of sexy girls?

Would that make more girls to reply on Mamba? [/QUOTE]Some thoughts on this: Fake photo would probalby attract more replies, but then you eventually would have to meet them in person, or you want to send sombody younger for you? I think real photo is in the long run the best idea. Photo is essential. You must remember the mental leap these girls have to take, if you prefer under 25 yo, what is the age difference? You cannot bridge that with money by everyone. We have to charm them as well. And to do this you must be able to communicate.

Have people been seeing many fake photos of girls on Mamba / Flirt etc? This is not my experience. Lately though I have seen these profiles marked "Love", which probably is some escort agency, but they are pretty obvious. But then even a profile that looks like a model, which I had the pleasure to meet, and someone would think of as a fake, I can confirm that is real photo:

[url]http://flirtru.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=408002655&hit=10&fromsearch[/url]

But I confirm nothing about how and where and why I am able to verify this. I say only our meeting started in a coffee bar and that was very pleasant.

[QUOTE=Harry Hirsch; 1128352]! DON'T DO IT!

Be care with your Money, This Girl give me the worsted SEX EVER!

Now she is 20 and she is not a skinny.

She looks like beautiful, yes. But this is all.

If you want she can show you Kiev, this she can do good. .

But Sex with her was nearly nothing.

You must speak about all with her, before you meet her.

She stay last March 5 Nights with me for 6000 Grivna + 1500grn shopping)

And I know she go with you for one Month Holiday for 10000grn.

Wish you a nice time in Kiev) [/QUOTE]What was wrong with the sex? A log in the bed. Just tell me. Even PM (now empty).

Ok, my full story.

I go the first time to Kiev last March for 8 Nights,

I take a look to nice girl at Mamba and I found her)

We write before sometimes and she offer me hot sex.

I meet with her we go eat sushi and after this she comes with me,

Sex with her means:

Blowjob with condom, cunnilingus not possible, deep Kisses sometimes possible,

Anal not possible, she doesn't like her job.

She doesn't gives you a good illusion, she want your money, thats all.

We have a deal about 7 nights, she leave me in the 3. Night, she told me must go to dad.

And she leave me in the 5. Night again because dad)

I think Dad = pimp.

But I hungry about sex, so I take a look to mamba and meet with other girl.

We go to Sushi restaurant and.

Who is inside there?

Yes Alona is there.

She see me with other girl and I see here with an old 65 year old guy (american)

The next day she comes I give her money and this was the end of all.

I can be happy about this,

Because the other 2 girls after her, are much more better than Alona!

[QUOTE=Harry Hirsch; 1130160]Ok, my full story.

I go the first time to Kiev last March for 8 Nights,

I take a look to nice girl at Mamba and I found her)

We write before sometimes and she offer me hot sex.

I meet with her we go eat sushi and after this she comes with me,

Sex with her means:

Blowjob with condom, cunnilingus not possible, deep Kisses sometimes possible,

Anal not possible, she doesn't like her job.

She doesn't gives you a good illusion, she want your money, thats all.

We have a deal about 7 nights, she leave me in the 3. Night, she told me must go to dad.

And she leave me in the 5. Night again because dad)

I think Dad = pimp.

But I hungry about sex, so I take a look to mamba and meet with other girl.

We go to Sushi restaurant and.

Who is inside there?

Yes Alona is there.

She see me with other girl and I see here with an old 65 year old guy (american)

The next day she comes I give her money and this was the end of all.

I can be happy about this,

Because the other 2 girls after her, are much more better than Alona! [/QUOTE]By the way the famous icon of Kiev Mystery Tramp was the same but renting her daily and making her drunk you could avoid the problem.

PERSONAL CONSIDERATION.

Shit! Russia (or former CCCP) is not what we."oldies" expect it to be. A nice freebie is a rare thing. Today, at my time, it was simply as much you can fuck in any hole you can do it. In a day for a Franklin note.

IT

[QUOTE=Harry Hirsch; 1130160]Ok, my full story.

She doesn't like her job.

She doesn't gives you a good illusion, she want your money, thats all. [/QUOTE]Perhaps we have an example of a girl gone professional, correction: mechanical in her moves, as time goes by. Other become more skilled and pleasant. Eather way, they need a firm hand and a stiff john to be taught the right attitude.