Hong Kong Club Reports

I agree with the idea that no one should overpay.

I do negotiate, but I don't quibble over a few dollars.

However, the talk about putas making $120/ HR compared to other professions is misleading.

They might make $120 a working/ arriba hour, but they are not getting $120/ HR for every hour on shift every shift.

Comparing a salaried monger who makes half that (with benefits) to a puta's commission income as a reason to nickle-and-dime does not wash.

And how many salaried mongers do their work in expensive, skimpy garments and costumes paid for out of their own pockets?

That would be an ugly scene around my office.

If you don't want to pay $80/ pop for an HK girl, go for a street girl.

Problem solved.

[QUOTE=CaptJackSparro;2179420]Many of the hot girls make several hundred per day. Some close to 1 K on the weekend. My only point is that a lot of the girls make more money than their customers. Giving them an extra $50 is overkill.

Some guys think paying more is helping lift the girl out of poverty, when in reality that girl makes more money than him and has a better quality of life than the guy. Its like a fan giving Tom Brady a tip after the Patriots win a game: unnecessary because he's already making enough.

Also, let's be honest. Many guys are trying to buy feelings from these girls. Its a suckers game.

All I can do is post here and talk shit about the guys who do because my cheap heart doesn't want to lose my main rationalization for going down to Mexico (that its cheaper than the US). Ughhhh.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2179660]This is info I got first hand from people I know:

A few HK girls have babies bare backing guys of different ethnicity. Don't know if she ever got infected.

A bro has always been bare backing for decades in China and all over Asia. He claims he never got any disease.

A bro DFKs and bare backs selectively in Mexico, Asia, US, Europe. He reported never got anything.

A bro enjoys beso negro in Mexico and Central America. He got all sorts of hepatitis but did not reported any venereal diseases.

A bro got Gonorrhea or Chlamydia from an escort in Tijuana. He said he was using condom?

A bro got Gonorrhea by sliding his dick bare back on the camel toe, not even penetrating.

A bro got HPV after 1 month going to HK screwing bar girls with condoms, one got Herpes with condoms.

Condoms can prevent bacterial infection but HPV and herpes virus can transmit by skin contacts, even with condoms.[/QUOTE]I was deciding if keeping your boxer briefs on while you're fucking is a good idea? (while keeping a full Bush for extra protection).

I figure the only thing penetrating is your penis and your pelvis doesn't come in contact.

Anybody have any thoughts or has anybody experimented with that.

HPV? Most standard STD tests for guys don't test for HPV.

He most likely requested testing for "everything" out of paranoia and it showed up, but he may have had HPV for years.

Most sexually active people will contract HPV. It can go away on its own.

Herpes is like chicken pox: a friggin skin condition. Drug companies made herpes a big deal to profit from the treatment of it.

Not saying I want to volunteer to get any of the above, but both really aren't big deals. You should assume every working girl has both HPV and herpes since they are so common that they aren't tested for in standard STD panels.

If herpes testing were mandatory next to none of these girls would be able to renew their health cards because most of them have or will contract herpes. Most people who have herpes never have symptoms.

The thing about herpes is that if you don't have an obvious outbreak, blood testing may be detecting oral herpes. I just remember reading herpes is hard to diagnose unless you have an obvious outbreak.

Just keep in mind that HPV and herpes are not tested for on most standard STD panels because doctors agree they are so common and cause more stress than help.

Any seasoned player and any educated working girl accepts both STDs as an eventuality. You can't boink 1000 people and expect to not be exposed to / contract these.

Just don't get in the habit of BBFS so that you can avoid HIV and you're good. Your career will be long. BBBJ is very low risk and you can't catch anything life threatening. Worth risk for most guys. Everything else is easily treatable or common enough that most sexually active people have them (HPV and herpes). I'd say the word part of STDs is having to inform any partners. Most are literally no different in treatment than a cold: quick round of antibiotics and your good. They're just so stigmatized.

Avoid sores and bleeding lips. Have fun.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2179660]This is info I got first hand from people I know:

A few HK girls have babies bare backing guys of different ethnicity. Don't know if she ever got infected.

A bro has always been bare backing for decades in China and all over Asia. He claims he never got any disease.

A bro DFKs and bare backs selectively in Mexico, Asia, US, Europe. He reported never got anything.

A bro enjoys beso negro in Mexico and Central America. He got all sorts of hepatitis but did not reported any venereal diseases..[/QUOTE]

Suffice to say, we all play a game that has an element of danger. It is unnerving to think about. Just my opinion, but I think in any human interaction, there is a danger. I don't think every possibility is known or understood in the medical community. I think we all have to learn our comfort level and make educated decisions.

I've been very fortunate. I've never had a single issue, but I also play it relatively safe. I personally would never go bareback with these girls. Not judging those that do but again, that's my semi-educated decision. Does it cut down on the pleasure? You bet it does. But when I first started in the hobby years ago, it was difficult. I became absolutely paranoid for weeks after my first encounter. At that point, I made myself read through reputable articles / journals, decide where my comfort level is and go with it. In those immediate weeks after my first encounter, it was a mentally draining experience. Not one I care to relive. Even though nothing was wrong, not a real symptom, nothing. I believed I did and it was terrifying.

[QUOTE=BlueGhxst;2179863]I was deciding if keeping your boxer briefs on while you're fucking is a good idea? (while keeping a full Bush for extra protection).

I figure the only thing penetrating is your penis and your pelvis doesn't come in contact.

Anybody have any thoughts or has anybody experimented with that.[/QUOTE]

Actually skin protection methods have been discussed in previous posts here. RTFF re coconut oil. Two practical suggestions- 1) buy rubber underwear that is available for about $20 on Ebay or 2) cover your groin skin area with coconut oil (some use it mixed with silver salve for more antiseptic power) to prevent infections. If you use method 2, you will need non-latex condoms. If the girl is a squirter and you are wearing your boxers, good luck walking around with wet soggy underwear for the rest of your visit to Tijuana.

[QUOTE=BlueGhxst;2179863]I was deciding if keeping your boxer briefs on while you're fucking is a good idea? (while keeping a full Bush for extra protection).

I figure the only thing penetrating is your penis and your pelvis doesn't come in contact.

Anybody have any thoughts or has anybody experimented with that.[/QUOTE]

You'll get laughs but I'm sure the smarter girls will understand and appreciate it.

I'm almost certain that lube and a girls natural fluids can find their way down the condom and get onto your groin.

Dunno about you but paranoid sex kills my boner.

Some girls do this thing where they put their hand between your groin and hers as a barrier to prevent you from getting to close. Its obviously because they aren't playing with their kitty. These same girls will also tighten their legs to prevent groin to groin contact if you're trying to get deep in them.

Experienced guys know what I'm talking about. Total boner killer. Can't nut with only half of my dick permitted to be in. The girls who don't allow groin contact tend to be hustlers and don't give a damn if you are satisfied.

Now you know why that idle hand is spreading those lips for you, papi.

[QUOTE=BlueGhxst;2179863]I was deciding if keeping your boxer briefs on while you're fucking is a good idea? (while keeping a full Bush for extra protection).

I figure the only thing penetrating is your penis and your pelvis doesn't come in contact.

Anybody have any thoughts or has anybody experimented with that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2179306]$120 per hour translates to about $250,000 per year for a salaried person. That is a lot of money, even for Silicon Valley.[/QUOTE]I was thinking about free lancers. 120/ HR rate is from years ago. I work with many and their rates are actually much higher. Even the ones I use from South America are not cheap. The median salary at Facebook is the highest in SV at about 240 K.

I think the chicas that make the most money are the ones asking the going rate. The ones ask for higher rate have fewer takers.

[QUOTE=BlueGhxst;2179863]I was deciding if keeping your boxer briefs on while you're fucking is a good idea? (while keeping a full Bush for extra protection).

I figure the only thing penetrating is your penis and your pelvis doesn't come in contact.

Anybody have any thoughts or has anybody experimented with that.[/QUOTE]Here's how I roll; no worries whatsoever!

[QUOTE=BlueGhxst;2179863]I was deciding if keeping your boxer briefs on while you're fucking is a good idea? (while keeping a full Bush for extra protection).

I figure the only thing penetrating is your penis and your pelvis doesn't come in contact.

Anybody have any thoughts or has anybody experimented with that.[/QUOTE]I use a pocket hand sanitizer (ethyl alcohol 70%) from a supermarket or Walgreens (kills 99.99% of germs). After hanky panky I'm cleaning with hand sanitizer skin in this area, penis, balls. I've never had a problem. BTW I always use a good quality condom like "Crown". Safety first.

I find the best way to have sex with a condom and avoid STD s is to just use missionary and doggy style. Avoid woman on top because you are exposed totally and the condom isn't secure. If you stick with the 2 positions I said and keep the lights on you can see the condom and how far you can enter while being totally protected within reason. Women on top is the worst because your whole pelvis region is touching the girl and your penis 100 percent in and the condom starts to roll up. Very dangerous.

There are lots of valid info in your post.

However, this bro who got HPV was a young guy just started mongering. He was screwing HK girls exclusively every weekend. Within 1 month he discover a "bump" on his pubic area. He went to the Free Aids Clinics in Hollywood for a test. The doctor confirmed he picked up HPV.

The bro was devastated that he would have to advise all future sex partners of his infection.

Yep. Most working girls are likely to carry HPV and Herpes, and It's pretty easy for mongers to get them.

Re. HPV? Most standard STD tests for guys don't test for HPV.

He most likely requested testing for "everything" out of paranoia and it showed up, but he may have had HPV for years.

Most sexually active people will contract HPV. It can go away on its own.

Herpes is like chicken pox: a friggin skin condition. Drug companies made herpes a big deal to profit from the treatment of it.

Not saying I want to volunteer to get any of the above, but both really aren't big deals. You should assume every working girl has both HPV and herpes since they are so common that they aren't tested for in standard STD panels.

Just keep in mind that HPV and herpes are not tested for on most standard STD panels because doctors agree they are so common and cause more stress than help.

Any seasoned player and any educated working girl accepts both STDs as an eventuality. You can't boink 1000 people and expect to not be exposed to / contract these.

Cow girl is very risky as the girl's anus is slamming on you balls and her drippy-wet pussy is slamming on the base of your dick. Potentially her pussy fluid could be splattering down on your crotch.

Lucky most putas are fairly dry and if you keep a full Bush, there should be natural protection against your groin getting drenched hehe.

While riskier cow girl is one of my favorite positions. The girl can do all the work while you can lay back, watching her pretty face and her pussy slamming against your crotch, both hands squeezing her spongy boobs.

Can you use someone else's Hong Kong VIP card?

Also if you and a friend want to stay in the double rooms, can you use just one Hong Kong VIP card to book the room or do both of you need a Hong Kong VIP card?

If the front desk guy does not know your face, you should be able to use some else's card. They never check IDs. My ID is being held by the Jedi anyway hehe.

You only need 1 VIP card to reserve Cascada's double rooms. I had to baby sit a bro with sleep abnia all night. He could not believe 2 guys only paid $11 for the room. Another night Cascada confirmed a double room but ran out. I gave the old manager a hard time. He gave us 2 single rooms next door for $11.

Once or twice they requested to see a driver's license at the desk when I used a VIP card. FYI.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2180470]If the front desk guy does not know your face, you should be able to use some else's card. They never check IDs. My ID is being held by the Jedi anyway hehe.

You only need 1 VIP card to reserve Cascada's double rooms. I had to baby sit a bro with sleep abnia all night. He could not believe 2 guys only paid $11 for the room. Another night Cascada confirmed a double room but ran out. I gave the old manager a hard time. He gave us 2 single rooms next door for $11.[/QUOTE]