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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1184262]SK

Thanks for your thoughtful post.

I plan to take an extended holiday from ISG.

I am tired of the petty sniping from guys who live overseas 50 weeks of the year and rely on ISG and a few pictures to feed their fantasies until they have saved up enough pesos to come here for the only 2 weeks of fun they have for the whole year.

For the record. I don't wear a red kilt. RK happens to be the name of a horse that my Dad and I raced successfully many years ago.[/QUOTE]Sorry to see you go, as your insights and PM's have been relevant. But, its a good reminder, that the board is here for everyone, including the 10-day tourist (it is named "International") and the expat. They're going to represent two different kind of postings. Too much testosterone around lately?

Hi,

Can anyone tell me of a few places I can go during the day to get some full service? Any soapies in the area? I think I will be staying near the Mega Mall. I can't bring any girls to the hotel room.

Thanks for your help!

By necessity, referring my topic from a month ago, where some girls from MBC wanted rubbers and I asked them to BB because I logically thought they would not say yes unless they were on the pill. Then after having sex BB with me 2 days in a row one opened my eyes by threatening to 'find me' if she got pregnant. Then people here told me how I screwed up and missed the cultural aspect of church, wivestales, etc.

I plan to be back in Manila shortly. I need to visit MBC, as that's part of the reason for stopping in Manila. But I am a little concerned that maybe one of the girls did get knocked up, could still be working there, and happens to recognize me. I don't know what she meant by 'find me'. Like what was she going to do if she found me anyway? Is there any recourse for her, like could a girl call the police and have me detained for testing? I am guessing the girls won't remember my face, since WGs never seem to remember guys for long. Plus these girls don't work there all the time. Maybe 2-3 nights a week. So my chance of even seeing them is low. If one does recognize me and tries to scam me for money, I will deal with that no problem. However if she gets pissed and there is some law she can use against me, like to have me detained, I have to reassess my trip plan and skip Manila. Is anyone familiar with these aspects of the Phillipines law?

[quote=puta playa; 1184697]but i am a little concerned that maybe one of the girls did get knocked up, could still be working there, and happens to recognize me. i don't know what she meant by 'find me'. like what was she going to do if she found me anyway?

is anyone familiar with these aspects of the phillipines law?[/quote]a wg will remember you, she might have even taken your photo with out you noticing, they have their ways. even if they did not get pregnant to threat you like that she will be looking out for you.

as for philippine law there is only one you need to know : the white guy did it and has lots of cash.

they can lock you up, and will if some girl wants money, she can claim you raped her show a white baby and your gone even with out the baby she still can claim [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. i was one of the guys telling you to watch what you are doing as i have seen guys like you get in trouble here. even this last post you still not get it, if i was you avoid place where you will bump in to these girls, you have a target on your head. if you go there they see you they call the shots, if you leave with another girl watch out.

[quote=frenzy3; 1184736]a wg will remember you, she might have even taken your photo with out you noticing, they have their ways. even if they did not get pregnant to threat you like that she will be looking out for you.

as for philippine law there is only one you need to know : the white guy did it and has lots of cash.

they can lock you up, and will if some girl wants money, she can claim you raped her show a white baby and your gone even with out the baby she still can claim [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. i was one of the guys telling you to watch what you are doing as i have seen guys like you get in trouble here. even this last post you still not get it, if i was you avoid place where you will bump in to these girls, you have a target on your head. if you go there they see you they call the shots, if you leave with another girl watch out.[/quote]no, trust me i do get it and that's why i asked the question. just to make sure i'm not being paranoid, cause i know other guys are doing girls bb that they picked up from places other than mbc, and i haven't read of any major problems during my extensive time rtff here.

as for white guys, it took me only that first trip to pi to figure out that this is not someplace to stop in and practice 'cocksmanship' unless you stay on the move. cause i got the impression the pinoy authorities don't like us no matter how much money we are dumping into their country. which is probably why i see the more experienced visitors here bouncing from town to town within even short trips. by the time the girl gets pissed off and makes a plan to do something drastic, they are hundreds of km away.

when that particular girl made that 'finding me' comment i immediately realized that i was playing with fire when i bb'ed those girls. because it's not just her, those other girls could get the same idea. and then she started telling me that i should be her bf. and then she said that she tried to stop by my room one night unannounced to introduce me to a friend.

in mnl i got [i]great[/i] sex almost every time and was mostly enjoying myself, but i sensed that some mbc girl would make a move and try to play me, and that being a foreign guy i would be screwed. so that is most of the reason why i left town early, because in maybe a couple more days the girls would all start talking to one another and maybe there would be a target on my head like you mentioned. this particular mbc girl is full of hate for men and talks endlessly about a european guy who used to have her living at his apartment for a long time, and one day while they were out traveling far from the apartment he left her peso-less at a store or station somewhere in the provinces and drove off. she eventually made her way back to the apartment to find him and he was gone from the apartment, whole place cleared out. and she said if she finds him she is having him arrested. i don't know what for. prostitute abandonment? so i knew to get far away from this psycho. get out while the getting is good.

maybe in a year i can come back to mbc safely, if the girls tend to go back to their homes after a while working mnl? i get the idea and for this next trip i will focus on some other town in phils. give cebu another shot maybe.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1184753]No, trust me I do get it and that's why I asked the question. Just to make sure I'm not being paranoid, cause I know other guys are doing girls BB that they picked up from places other than MBC, and I haven't read of any major problems during my extensive time RTFF here.

As for white guys, it took me only that first trip to PI to figure out that this is not someplace to stop in and practice 'cocksmanship' unless you stay on the move. Cause I got the impression the Pinoy authorities don't like us no matter how much money we are dumping into their country. Which is probably why I see the more experienced visitors here bouncing from town to town within even short trips. By the time the girl gets pissed off and makes a plan to do something drastic, they are hundreds of km away.

When that particular girl made that 'finding me' comment I immediately realized that I was playing with fire when I BB'ed those girls. Because it's not just her, those other girls could get the same idea. And then she started telling me that I should be her BF. And then she said that she tried to stop by my room one night unannounced to introduce me to a friend.

In MNL I got [i]great[/i] Sex almost every time and was mostly enjoying myself, but I sensed that some MBC girl would make a move and try to play me, and that being a foreign guy I would be screwed. So that is most of the reason why I left town early, because in maybe a couple more days the girls would all start talking to one another and maybe there would be a target on my head like you mentioned. This particular MBC girl is full of hate for men and talks endlessly about a European guy who used to have her living at his apartment for a long time, and one day while they were out traveling far from the apartment he left her peso-less at a store or station somewhere in the provinces and drove off. She eventually made her way back to the apartment to find him and he was gone from the apartment, whole place cleared out. And she said if she finds him she is having him arrested. I don't know what for. Prostitute abandonment? So I knew to get far away from this psycho. Get out while the getting is good.

Maybe in a year I can come back to MBC safely, if the girls tend to go back to their homes after a while working MNL? I get the idea and for this next trip I will focus on some other town in Phils. Give Cebu another shot maybe.[/QUOTE]Puta Playa,

After those ropes of cum you shot in her hole there is a very good chance that you knocked her up and she's looking for you. Her friends probably know what you look like and when you show up at MBC the texting alert will go out. Legally there isn't much she can do but these girls don't go the legal route. What you need to worry about are the extrajudicial tactics mentioned. If you're the sentimental type you might want to drop by and rub her belly, see how that pregnancy is progressing. Up to you if you want to play a role in your baby's life, or not. You can't knock her up twice so if you are out to bareback again it's probably best to just repeat. What's done is done!

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1184836]After those ropes of cum you shot in her hole there is a very good chance that you knocked her up[/QUOTE]Medical literature places the odds of pregnancy at somewhere around 20% when a woman is at the peak of her fertility cycle. Outside of those 4 days or so, the odds are even lower.

No, I'm not advocating going BB as sooner or later the odds will catch up with you. Either in terms of fatherhood or in terms of STDs. And if you do score a bullseye and get confirmation that the kid is yours, do the adult thing and make sure the mother and child are well taken care of. Once confirmed as the father, some guys discover they are made of a new element called Afraidium. It's yellow, tastes like chicken and runs easily. It is a situation that separates the true men from the wannabees. Nope, haven't been there myself as I do make sure to protect against both STD and DAD.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1184836]Puta Playa,

After those ropes of cum you shot in her hole there is a very good chance that you knocked her up and she's looking for you. Her friends probably know what you look like and when you show up at MBC the texting alert will go out. Legally there isn't much she can do but these girls don't go the legal route. What you need to worry about are the extrajudicial tactics mentioned. If you're the sentimental type you might want to drop by and rub her belly, see how that pregnancy is progressing. Up to you if you want to play a role in your baby's life, or not. You can't knock her up twice so if you are out to bareback again it's probably best to just repeat. What's done is done![/QUOTE]Ah, I seriously doubt it. Especially based on the post right below. I'm not really buying the idea of the WGs not protecting with pills anyway. Maybe normal girls take such risk but there is no way WGs can be stupid enough to go without pills and then bareback without any extra incentive. I never paid the girls extra or promised them anything. I just told them it didn't feel good with the rubber, is it okay without? then it's like Okay, up to you. Even if they use rubbers they need the pill to ensure a broken rubber doesn't put them out of business. This seems obvious to me, no matter what the church is telling them they must be looking out for themselves. They always seem to in every other aspect.

My spiritual advisor and esteemed MNL contributor tells me in PM that there is nothing to worry about cause the girls do this all the time and no reason to skip MBC and mess up my plan, that on the off chance I might get detained by cops they can try to shake me down for money but can't keep me if they fail. But personally I never want to see a Manila cop again after the smoking arrest and attempted shakedown.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1184856]I'm not really buying the idea of the WGs not protecting with pills anyway. Maybe normal girls take such risk but there is no way WGs can be stupid enough to go without pills and then bareback without any extra incentive.[/QUOTE]Senor Puta:

Judging by the number of posts that you have on this board I can only assume that you have some experience in our sport. However, you are apparently completely disconnected with the mentality of Filipinas. There are many many single mothers working in AC, and a large percentage of them were knocked up by mongers. I can't count the number of times the girls have told me about the customer that got them pregnant. A large percentage of the girls are not using protection, partly due to Catholic upbringing and partly due to not enough sex education.

Your assumptions are full of ignorance, naivety, and strike me as arrogant. If you are going around having unprotected sex with these girls, then please be aware that you may well be leaving behond a trail of babies behind you. If you are OK with that, then there is a serious issue of morality and humanity here.

Sorry for the blast, but your post really hit a nerve with me.

Raz

[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1184856]Ah, I seriously doubt it. Especially based on the post right below. I'm not really buying the idea of the WGs not protecting with pills anyway. Maybe normal girls take such risk but there is no way WGs can be stupid enough to go without pills and then bareback without any extra incentive. I never paid the girls extra or promised them anything. I just told them it didn't feel good with the rubber, is it okay without? Then it's like Okay, up to you. Even if they use rubbers they need the pill to ensure a broken rubber doesn't put them out of business. This seems obvious to me, no matter what the church is telling them they must be looking out for themselves. They always seem to in every other aspect.

My spiritual advisor and esteemed MNL contributor tells me in PM that there is nothing to worry about cause the girls do this all the time and no reason to skip MBC and mess up my plan, that on the off chance I might get detained by cops they can try to shake me down for money but can't keep me if they fail. But personally I never want to see a Manila cop again after the smoking arrest and attempted shakedown.[/QUOTE]Well, maybe you didn't win the lottery this time but there is no way of knowing if your pearl rope bred her until you return to MBC. 1 in 5 odds of a life altering event are still pretty significant as freelancers are likely to work on their peak fertile days when they are most receptive to bareback sex. Also, it is true that you can bareback with reckless abandon impregnating random girls without much fear of being detained by the authorities. Like I said it's the extrajudicial consequences that you should worry about. The greatest legal risk comes from knocking up a married girl whose spouse decides to get the police involved. Other than that you're free to run your own sex tourism breeding program without fear of being obligated to support your offspring.

[QUOTE=RasSpewtin; 1184879]Senor Puta:

Judging by the number of posts that you have on this board I can only assume that you have some experience in our sport. However, you are apparently completely disconnected with the mentality of Filipinas. There are many many single mothers working in AC, and a large percentage of them were knocked up by mongers. I can't count the number of times the girls have told me about the customer that got them pregnant. A large percentage of the girls are not using protection, partly due to Catholic upbringing and partly due to not enough sex education.

Your assumptions are full of ignorance, naivety, and strike me as arrogant. If you are going around having unprotected sex with these girls, then please be aware that you may well be leaving behond a trail of babies behind you. If you are OK with that, then there is a serious issue of morality and humanity here.

Sorry for the blast, but your post really hit a nerve with me.

Raz[/QUOTE]Never bareback a working girl especially take out from MBC. It is for your safety. MBC is monger central and mostly caters to foreign mongers who monger anywhere in the world and bring unwanted surprises to Phi.

These girls will agree for anything as long as the money is there. As for as they are concerned they do not seem to be bothered about getting pregnant. Ofcourse mom and other family members are there to care for the baby.

As for child support I do not think they themselves know who the father is unless you keep her for a few days and give all your info.

Only girls I bareback are the ones I met through Dia and I come to know them. Initially I never bareback. Usually I put her on the pill. It is easily available and just make sure the girl goes to get it alone. Pharmacists

May say no if they see somebody else with her.

Puta I think you're way over thinking the situation. Just live your life and enjoy yourself. If you're that worried just go to Havana instead of MBC. I never saw the same girl twice on my last trip, you also have to realize that Manila is like a HUGE city, good luck tracking someone down there. Even if you're a white guy in a sea of asians I think you'll be just fine. Personally I think it a bonus to spread my seed, but I wouldn't do it with a girl in MBC more girls I meet in a normal situation or get them to get tested which they seem pretty fine with. I only see positives to creating a bunch of juniors, compared to the US where you'd get a 10k bill from dr. And then child support for the rest of your life. I'm actually planning my next baby making trip in a week or two. Ha ha

The consensus here and in PM seems to be that these girls can't touch you unless it's something that they planned with a cop in advance to shake you down for money. And if she sees you and tries to bring some charge, the cops don't want to hear it.

Its nice to understand the cultural context that P4P happens in. Finding and fucking girls in MNL is the easy part. It's all the stuff that goes along with it that is complicated.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1185008]Finding and fucking girls in MNL is the easy part. It's all the stuff that goes along with it that is complicated.[/QUOTE]Drama. Part of pinay life seems to be the drama. If you chat them online before meeting, they tend to bring to you the parts of life where they need help (usually involves money). If one hits on you in the mall, she will mention she's trying to get her phone out of the pawn shop (or momma needs surgery). Always the same drama. If you don't send her the money, you don't really love her (more drama). Its a more drama-oriented way of attaining punani than elsewhere.

If you sleep with dogs you're going to get fleas.