Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

Another interesting and well-informed post by RK.

I just want to add that there are always exceptions to the rule. I first communicated with a certain DIA gal a few years ago, but every time I was on her particular island, she was busy with this and that. IN the beginning she was a student, then intern, then working somewhere unexpected. This gal was elusive. I added her on FB and for a while she was "in a relationship", and then she wasn't. She is petite, but the pictures were never revealing. An enigma.

She could put two or three sentences together coherently, so I guess that is one big reason I kept on "courting" her.

Earlier this year she just happened to be in the same city as I and was available to meet. Great, but there was the condition that only if she could finish some chores she had come to town to take care of. Later, I was informed that she hadn't finished the chores, but suggested we meet and I could tag along at location xyz. She presented this politely and I was tempted to just blow it off. Give a woman an inch and she'll take a mile, went thru my mind. Pun unintended, but suitable for this little story.

Spoiler alert, this has a very happy ending.

We met, we ate at a food court, did her chores, walked around a bit, I held her hand crossing streets (I was scared!) , did something fun in the city that she wasn't expecting, got tired, went to my hotel, relaxed, disrobed (the view was better than expected) , pleasured each other, she rushed off very late for her subsequent appointments.

She actually whispered the "lv" word, but I'm guessing that was "in a relationship" guy because she seemed more surprised than me when it came out of her mouth.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1558404]I moved this from the "General Info" thread.

You make a fair point Dg.

SNIP SNIP SNIP.

I know it has been said many times before, but it is generally a waste of time to write to women unless you are either in the Philippines or only a week away from visiting, and you need to make that clear in your message.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1558404]and they delete EVERY one if the guy is not actually in the Philippines when he sends the message. it is generally a waste of time to write to women unless you are either in the Philippines or only a week away from visiting, and you need to make that clear in your message.[/QUOTE]Hmm I've been fairly successful meeting girls by contacting them well in advance but I do send several messages and try to get to know them a little bit.

[QUOTE=X Man; 1558457]I just want to add that there are always exceptions to the rule. I first communicated with a certain DIA gal a few years ago, but every time I was on her particular island, she was busy with this and that. IN the beginning she was a student, then intern, then working somewhere unexpected. This gal was elusive.

Spoiler alert, this has a very happy ending.

We met, we ate at a food court, did her chores, walked around a bit, I held her hand crossing streets (I was scared!) , did something fun in the city that she wasn't expecting, got tired, went to my hotel, relaxed, disrobed (the view was better than expected) , pleasured each other, she rushed off very late for her subsequent appointments.[/QUOTE]Exactly. This thing works both ways in every place you meet women online for dating and many times not as happy as X Man's outcome. What was her reason for having so many excuses at the beginning?

[QUOTE=D Cups;1558460]Hmm I've been fairly successful meeting girls by contacting them well in advance but I do send several messages and try to get to know them a little bit.[/QUOTE]Note the final line in my post DC.

I said "I know it has been said many times before, but it is generally a waste of time to write to women unless you are either in the Philippines or only a week away from visiting, and you need to make that clear in your message".

There are ALWAYS exceptions to every rule but I still stand by my opinion, despite what you say DC.

Guys report their success stories and conveniently ignore the non-responders.

If chat site users kept a serious log of their successful outcomes versus their "no responders" and then costed their time spent online I suspect that they would get a nasty surprise.

Yes R. K, but remember that there are a number of guys with no lives on this forum whose main hobby is chatting on DIA, FC, PL etc. It is easy to see who they are because they are constantly posting about this girl or that girl but rarely if ever are actually in the Philippines. I can only imagine how dismal their lives are that all they have to look forward to is chatting with (and probably lying to) some unfortunate Filipinas. I hope that this is quoted so that one of these losers (put on my ignore list by Jackson after I got fed up with the stupid posts all over the forum looking for large boobs.) reads it.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1558672]Note the final line in my post DC.

I said "I know it has been said many times before, but it is generally a waste of time to write to women unless you are either in the Philippines or only a week away from visiting, and you need to make that clear in your message".

There are ALWAYS exceptions to every rule but I still stand by my opinion, despite what you say DC.

Guys report their success stories and conveniently ignore the non-responders.

If chat site users kept a serious log of their successful outcomes versus their "no responders" and then costed their time spent online I suspect that they would get a nasty surprise.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1558672]If chat site users kept a serious log of their successful outcomes versus their "no responders" and then costed their time spent online I suspect that they would get a nasty surprise.[/QUOTE]Great point, Red. The log keeping is one idea I've thought of, too. Of course it is a hobby, and for some of us including me it may even be an obsession for a while, especially for the few several months. To me the pay off is greater still than the time invested, which is 1-2 hours a day 4 or 5 days a week.

From the get go I invested my time in those girls who initiated contact by sending me a canned interest message, making me a favourite, or sending me a real message. I figured those girls were attracted why the lure were the the easiest to catch. The only initiative I took was merely visiting profiles of girls I found attractive. I wouldn't even send an interest message for the first 8 months or so; I do send interest messages nowadays. To the girls who initiated contact I replied asking whether they read my sexually explicit profile and did they understand what I was looking for. I'd say 70% never replied or stated they weren't interested. Thus rather quickly I filtered out those who aren't receptive. Of the remaining 30% I'd say 2/3rds agreed to come to my place. I've had a handful of no-shows. There has been seven girls so far who came yet wouldn't join me in bed. One returned two days later and we fucked then and on several occasions thereafter, but her insistence of condoms eventually soured my interest. One girl wanted to return a few days later but I ignored her messages. So five genuine in-my-condo rejects and a half dozen no-shows in a year and a half. Those are results I can live with.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1558672]Note the final line in my post DC.[/QUOTE]Fair 'nuff. Yes, a lot of DIAs turn into MIAs (missing in action).

Good question. From what I know of her and what I see online, her excuses were legit. She's a busy lady, I'm a busy guy.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1558472]Exactly. This thing works both ways in every place you meet women online for dating and many times not as happy as X Man's outcome. What was her reason for having so many excuses at the beginning?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1558711]The log keeping is one idea I've thought of, too. Of course it is a hobby,[/QUOTE]Thanks for that analysis and for sharing your log. Made me think of my batting average, which I'll share only because it touches on the advantage / disadvantages of starting early like you guys discussed.

I was one of those kooks that signed up for FC six months before I left home. I had folders full of contacts from every city in the Visayas. I don't know how many hundreds or thousands I chatted. By the time I arrived, there were exactly 2 (two) that I met. But they were the top picks.

I met one in Dumaguete but she was from Ozamiz. This girl was HOT! Guapa, exotic, awesome body, dressed in a tight sexy skirt. 18, one previous BF, and just a bit naughty. I was elated. I think she was the hottest girl I ever saw in Dgte in the following 4 months. But then in this sexy Latina sounding voice, she says "Brrreak my heart and I'll keell you". I didn't come here with any intention to break hearts, but fuck that. Things can happen.

Met the other one in Daanbantayan, N. Cebu. (I wrote a FR on this) She is 19 but in her picture looks 16. Super pretty, hundreds of FB pics, all beautiful. Well, in person the face is a bit rough but perfect body, beautiful round ass and very dark. But she's super serious, looking for love only. We agreed we're not the right match, but I lured her into my room promising not to bang her. Ended up eating that hot pussy all afternoon, shot one in her face, but kept my promise anyway. I think it was X Man that commented, he hopes I know I should have banged her.

Since I been here, I've met 3 more out of hundreds I've chatted with. One real sweetheart in Davao and we shagged like rats a few times. But she has a kid and eventually I moved on. One came to my place and started talking about money so that knocked my dick in the dirt. And one came to my apartment last night. We talked for a while, then laid on my bed for a while and she let me kiss the back of her shirt for a while. She didn't return my text today, must have thought I rushed things.

So depending on how I log it, I'm either batting a 400, or I'm only around 2 out of 1000. Hope that's of some interest to someone.

[QUOTE=Sam 14; 1558927]. Super pretty, hundreds of FB pics, all beautiful. Well, in person the face is a bit rough but perfect body, beautiful round ass and very dark. .

Since I.[/QUOTE]Your story about the lack of correlation between pics and the real person brings to mind an incident back when I lived in Manila. Met a gal on ym, who had some highly interesting name such as asianexoticgoddess (I can't recall it full so don't go searching for it ). We had many chats and eventually she shared some photos and then some videos and she was hot. She married a Filipino laywer but continued to share pics and she was truly the hottest girl I'd seen on camera adn video.

Took me two years to get her phone number. Anyways one day I announced my Manila assignment was over, and I would like to meet her, just once before I left. We met somewhere in GB. She was small slim mousy and decidedly rough.

How could this girl with such a hot body be this person that was sitting across from me.

All my fantasies were shot and shriveled. Cute girl though and good memories.

[QUOTE=X Man;1558892]Good question. From what I know of her and what I see online, her excuses were legit. She's a busy lady, I'm a busy guy.[/QUOTE]Surely X Man has the best picture of that girl's situation. But in general, filipinos are not "married to career" as some people are in other countries. Socializing is an important part of their life, they always have time for socializing. If she's busy, it means there's no room for you at the moment in her socio-sexual life. She's been sexually active since her mid-teens. She's attractive, right? They way you met her, others have met her too. She has a "batch", as they put it, of former playmates and classmates. If she's top of your "must fuck" list, keep in touch and maybe an opening will develop.

What gets me is the "loser" girls-no school, no work, stay-at-home, who say they are busy with house work. Well in some cases their situation is semi-employment, semi-servitude, and they have limited opportunity to go out. But as I see it, my housekeeper does a bigger house, plus laundry, in 3 or 4 hours. So the "busy" girls are really indolent.

[QUOTE=Cbea20;1559084]Surely X Man has the best picture of that girl's situation. But in general, filipinos are not "married to career" as some people are in other countries. Socializing is an important part of their life, they always have time for socializing. If she's busy, it means there's no room for you at the moment in her socio-sexual life. She's been sexually active since her mid-teens. She's attractive, right? They way you met her, others have met her too. She has a "batch", as they put it, of former playmates and classmates.[/QUOTE]I had one like that in Quezon City who was always busy working and studying to be a paramedic. She never had time to meet me, only excuses. She said that she would probably go work in Dubai for a while, but that never came to pass. Next thing I know she is getting married and moving to Seattle. Well obviously she had time for somebody to go from always too busy to married and moving overseas; that somebody just happened to not be me. It's all a numbers game. Just like lotto, you got to be in it to win it. So, don't be afraid to place your bets.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1559143]Well obviously she had time for somebody to go from always too busy to married and moving overseas; that somebody just happened to not be me.[/QUOTE]Mr E, Thanks for the chuckle. LOL

I was about 100 words in, when I got a disconnect. Damn. Other than the term "loser", I basically agree with what is written here. The face that she is educated and interesting was one of the main factors I kept in touch. It was worth it. X.

[QUOTE=Cbea20; 1559084]Surely X Man has the best picture of that girl's situation. But in general, filipinos are not "married to career" as some people are in other countries. Socializing is an important part of their life, they always have time for socializing. If she's busy, it means there's no room for you at the moment in her socio-sexual life. She's been sexually active since her mid-teens. She's attractive, right? They way you met her, others have met her too. She has a "batch", as they put it, of former playmates and classmates. If she's top of your "must fuck" list, keep in touch and maybe an opening will develop.

What gets me is the "loser" girls-no school, no work, stay-at-home, who say they are busy with house work. Well in some cases their situation is semi-employment, semi-servitude, and they have limited opportunity to go out. But as I see it, my housekeeper does a bigger house, plus laundry, in 3 or 4 hours. So the "busy" girls are really indolent.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the interesting report. Batting 400 is not a bad average. As for that other average, it depends on how much satisfaction you get out of it. I hate to say it, but it's a bit like gambling. You contact hundreds of gals, and sometimes you get a big payback. Luckily I visit the country two or three times a year. I've been accused of having one hand on the mouse and the other hand on my own personal joystick, but so be it.

Some guys here have the explicit profiles and seem to get a lot of bang for their effort. I'm more laid back and really do the "date in asia" scenario. And I think 400 is about average for me. And some of those are the same gals laying down for the ISGers with the explicit profiles (as has been confirmed a few times).

But I really like the regular gals, ones with something to say and things to do.

Sam, if we use that OTHER batting average, you're doing better than me. LOL. For the guys who live in the Philippines, I really don't know how they balance the debauchary with real life with whatever.

[QUOTE=Sam 14; 1558927]Thanks for that analysis and for sharing your log. Made me think of my batting average, which I'll share only because it touches on the advantage / disadvantages of starting early like you guys discussed.

SNIP.

So depending on how I log it, I'm either batting a 400, or I'm only around 2 out of 1000. Hope that's of some interest to someone.[/QUOTE]