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[QUOTE=Tiny12;2680524]The Tiny method: I methodically went through a lot of reviews on [URL]divasescort.com[/URL] and then cross referenced against reviews on the local forum [URL]ukpunting.com[/URL]. A number who had impeccable reviews on divas' site had so-so or bad reviews on the local forum. Anyway, based on the reviews and the photos I ended up picking Vesilina, one of the the higher priced women. I saw her for an outcall, and she charged another 45 pounds on top of the outcall rate for the taxi.

The woman: Her body is fantastic, a 10. Her face, well, I guess it depends on your tastes. She has a bit of a square jaw, for better or worse. Her English was good, and she was very nice. Her performance in the sack was very good. She didn't appear to enjoy FK but I didn't push it. If she lived where I live, I'd be back to see her. But based on the rates and photos I'm seeing for other women in London, I'm not sure she's particularly good value, AT THE RATE I PAID. She's the first provider I've banged in a long, long time in London, so I didn't have anything to compare her against.

How I fucked up: I only looked at her profile on [URL]divasescort.com[/URL]'s web site. I got two hours. So, if you check the link below for divas, you'll see I paid 1000 for an outcall, plus 45 pounds for the taxi, or 1045 total. You look at some of the other sites where she advertises, and she's available for 500 pounds for a 2 hour outcall! At that price I'd say she's not expensive, given her looks and performance. Well, live and learn.

Here are some sites where she advertises. Note the prices are all over the map:

[URL]https://topsecretescorts.co.uk/girl/veselina/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-vesilina[/URL]

[URL]https://alloverescorts.com/Veselina-escort-high-class-brunette-companion-3339.html[/URL]

[URL]http://www.fgirls.co.uk/busty-escort-veselina.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.babylongirls.co.uk/escorts/busty-brunette-ukrain-veselina/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/veselina/278456/[/URL]#.

[URL]https://www.vipcompanioninternational.co.uk/escort/vesilina[/URL][/QUOTE]T12,

You knew the price you were paying going in, if you didn't want to pay it why book it. I guess you are beating yourself up for booking through Diva and not checking the other agencies.

And she only has 3 reviews on Diva.

I don't understand the whole thing about the 45 pounds, if that was agreed in advance, then you should pay it. I thought you said she lives where you live, is 45 pounds normal for taxi where you live? If she showed up and asked for 45 pounds that you hadn't agreed to I think I would politely decline and say that was not part of our deal. I might offer to cover it as a tip if she completely satisfies me. However if you are paying her 1000 pounds she has plenty of money to cover the taxi. If she insists then tell her you changed your mind, she is not going walk away from 1000 pounds over 45 pounds.

Everyone in the P4 P industry hustles. Maybe you were thinking you want to have a good session and not upset her, and if you are in 1000,1045 is basically the same. Once you start talking about 1000's everything else is lost in the rounding.

You didn't rate her face, but it seems like you are happy with everything about the session except for the price, and you were ok with the price ahead of time, only afterwards you regret the price. Maybe she hustled you for 45 pounds but you allowed that hustle.

I am no expert on London I live in another country have been away from the UK since early 2020. But I have found Diva to be reputable, I don't know most of those other sites, and in the past when I checked Diva was sometime cheaper than the other sites. It could be she raised her rates today and those sites are old information. Many girls raised their rates after COVID as they have higher expenses, many girls left to go back to their own country, and many guys are horny seeking companionship after the lock downs.

Personally I don't find Vesilina attractive and wouldn't do a session with her even at 200 pounds, but have a specific type I like and she doesn't meet my criteria. I acknowledge many guys would consider her hot.

MM.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2680907]T12,

You knew the price you were paying going in, if you didn't want to pay it why book it. I guess you are beating yourself up for booking through Diva and not checking the other agencies.

And she only has 3 reviews on Diva.

I don't understand the whole thing about the 45 pounds, if that was agreed in advance, then you should pay it. I thought you said she lives where you live, is 45 pounds normal for taxi where you live? If she showed up and asked for 45 pounds that you hadn't agreed to I think I would politely decline and say that was not part of our deal. I might offer to cover it as a tip if she completely satisfies me. However if you are paying her 1000 pounds she has plenty of money to cover the taxi. If she insists then tell her you changed your mind, she is not going walk away from 1000 pounds over 45 pounds.

Everyone in the P4 P industry hustles. Maybe you were thinking you want to have a good session and not upset her, and if you are in 1000,1045 is basically the same. Once you start talking about 1000's everything else is lost in the rounding.

You didn't rate her face, but it seems like you are happy with everything about the session except for the price, and you were ok with the price ahead of time, only afterwards you regret the price. Maybe she hustled you for 45 pounds but you allowed that hustle.

I am no expert on London I live in another country have been away from the UK since early 2020. But I have found Diva to be reputable, I don't know most of those other sites, and in the past when I checked Diva was sometime cheaper than the other sites. It could be she raised her rates today and those sites are old information. Many girls raised their rates after COVID as they have higher expenses, many girls left to go back to their own country, and many guys are horny seeking companionship after the lock downs.

Personally I don't find Vesilina attractive and wouldn't do a session with her even at 200 pounds, but have a specific type I like and she doesn't meet my criteria. I acknowledge many guys would consider her hot.

MM.[/QUOTE]Thanks Marelobo Mex. I don't care about 45 GBP. I was simply providing a factual account and pointing out that her rates posted on other web sites are all lower than Divas. In addition to the reviews on Divas, I also looked at a local web site like this one, and those reviews of Vesilina were uniformly positive. That was not the case for most of the other escorts listed on Divas that I investigated online.

This is my first and only experience with Divas. You may be right, that she would refuse to work at the lower rates posted on the other sites. Still, if I'm looking for an escort in London again in the future and find someone I'm interested in, I'll check the other sites. And if the price is a lot lower on another site, I'll try it first.

Hi brothers, visiting London in May. Would love to have some ethnic British chick and others (Asians and Europeans). Will be at Croydon, London. No idea about the geography. Hope Croydon isn't a bad place for mongers like us. Kindly give some agency WA or websites that would suit my location and interest... any time at India/Chennai , I can help with the same

Hello,

I have been reading this topic for a while but this is my first post.

First, I had a very good experience with Anna from Olina. It was my first time with a proper escort (my previous experiences with working girls were in different settings) and she was very cool even if I was a bit nervous. Very good GFE experience, she looks great and eager to please. She also gave me a good head / back massage.

Now with the questions:

1) are there reputable agencies for girls that are not Romanian / Thai? Basically I would like to pay a decent rate (150/200 pounds per hour) but I would like to try something different from Romanian girls. I am interested especially in South Asian and Latinas and maybe British. I liked Diva and Olina because they seem to offer good girls so I would like to use a similar agency. I had a look at Adultwork but it seems quite hard to find the good girls there.

2) any suggestion on how to find a sugar girl for cheap? I am still quite young and in decent shape; I would like to find a sugarbabe but I can't really compete with people who can pay big money. Are the girls generally offering discount for younger guys?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2674452]If you have 200 for an hour. Go with Heidi at Diva. Her B2 B oil or Nuru is spectacularly sexy. Only warning is you might cum before insertion! I saw her a couple years ago but all indications are that she hasn't lost a step. High recommend if massage is part of what you are after.[/QUOTE]Nice one Steve, I'll give that a go!

Hello,

I want to ask about something like strip pub. After some research I see that something like this exists in London. Normal pub, with tv screen, some football etc. But also with strippers and each 10 minutes you have to give 1 pound for a girl to stay in the pub. It looks that it's not like a well know kind of "gentlemen's club" with expensive drinks but rather traditional pub, just with a little "bonus" which are the girls. Any impressions about such a places? I see that some are already closed forever (White Horse). Any open ones?

First time in London for a couple of years and have a few itches to scratch. I prefer a more natural look, IE no implants and preferably no tattoos. Sugar babes international have been reliable in my home city, but their London rosta is too PSE. Any suggestions from diva or Babylon, (or others?) A and CIM preferably. Thanks all.

[QUOTE=Andreew;2683139]Hello,

I want to ask about something like strip pub. After some research I see that something like this exists in London. Normal pub, with tv screen, some football etc. But also with strippers and each 10 minutes you have to give 1 pound for a girl to stay in the pub. It looks that it's not like a well know kind of "gentlemen's club" with expensive drinks but rather traditional pub, just with a little "bonus" which are the girls. Any impressions about such a places? I see that some are already closed forever (White Horse). Any open ones?[/QUOTE]Hello,

This is my first message and I'm glad to share some more information.

The "White Horse" used to be a spot for myself / colleageus (in banking) to get wasted before go somewhere else. Girls there are in my opinion not very attractive. There is one strip club "White Gentleman Club" near Tower Bridge Station. Girls looks much better but overall are more expensive.

It really depends on what you are after. After discover the fun in Kyiv strip club (sadly can't go any time soon), I do not go to strip club in London at all. Girls are pushy (plus private dance has no fun unless you enjoy girl dance half meter from you in a private room and you can't touch them) and for new people they tend to add some funny "add on tips" or "drinks on your bill without you even notice". If you insist to go, I would suggest to go as group and have some friend who does not drink too much so he can guard your wallet. XD.

Hope it helps.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2680524]The Tiny method: I methodically went through a lot of reviews on [URL]divasescort.com[/URL] and then cross referenced against reviews on the local forum [URL]ukpunting.com[/URL]. A number who had impeccable reviews on divas' site had so-so or bad reviews on the local forum. Anyway, based on the reviews and the photos I ended up picking Vesilina, one of the the higher priced women. I saw her for an outcall, and she charged another 45 pounds on top of the outcall rate for the taxi.

The woman: Her body is fantastic, a 10. Her face, well, I guess it depends on your tastes. She has a bit of a square jaw, for better or worse. Her English was good, and she was very nice. Her performance in the sack was very good. She didn't appear to enjoy FK but I didn't push it. If she lived where I live, I'd be back to see her. But based on the rates and photos I'm seeing for other women in London, I'm not sure she's particularly good value, AT THE RATE I PAID. She's the first provider I've banged in a long, long time in London, so I didn't have anything to compare her against.[/QUOTE]Interesting, was she as the photo more or less or it was totally different looking girls?

If I ever do escort in London, I be sure to check other sites before I book the girl and I am so used to FKK in Germany, so I wonder if I would be satisfy with the service level in London escort, was this girl at least gave blow job without condom?

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2680524]The Tiny method: I methodically went through a lot of reviews on [URL]divasescort.com[/URL] and then cross referenced against reviews on the local forum [URL]ukpunting.com[/URL]. A number who had impeccable reviews on divas' site had so-so or bad reviews on the local forum. Anyway, based on the reviews and the photos I ended up picking Vesilina, one of the the higher priced women. I saw her for an outcall, and she charged another 45 pounds on top of the outcall rate for the taxi.

The woman: Her body is fantastic, a 10. Her face, well, I guess it depends on your tastes. She has a bit of a square jaw, for better or worse. Her English was good, and she was very nice. Her performance in the sack was very good. She didn't appear to enjoy FK but I didn't push it. If she lived where I live, I'd be back to see her. But based on the rates and photos I'm seeing for other women in London, I'm not sure she's particularly good value, AT THE RATE I PAID. She's the first provider I've banged in a long, long time in London, so I didn't have anything to compare her against.[/QUOTE]I mentioned in the past that Diva is not the only agency the same girl advertises.

Some people here are Hell Bent on Divas agency.

You guys are heavily influenced by Steve9696 massive advertising techniques.

There's too many false misleading advertising going on the forums.

This Original poster has learned from his mistakes and overpaid by 100%.

Use this as a learning lesson and use all the links he provided and there's a dozen more if you search this site.

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2683818]I mentioned in the past that Diva is not the only agency the same girl advertises.

Some people here are Hell Bent on Divas agency.

You guys are heavily influenced by Steve9696 massive advertising techniques.
.[/QUOTE]Wow. Just wow. While I'd be flattered if people are "heavily influenced" by my posts (not sure they are!) my posts regarding Diva girls are neither "massive" nor "advertising". My sole goal as always is to share my personal experiences for the benefit of Team ISG. If you have personal experiences to the contrary, it would be better to share those experiences, rather than just throw incendiaries.

And I of course completely agree with your "do your research" comment and have advocated same on many occasions.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2683920]Wow. Just wow. While I'd be flattered if people are "heavily influenced" by my posts (not sure they are!) my posts regarding Diva girls are neither "massive" nor "advertising". My sole goal as always is to share my personal experiences for the benefit of Team ISG. If you have personal experiences to the contrary, it would be better to share those experiences, rather than just throw incendiaries.

And I of course completely agree with your "do your research" comment and have advocated same on many occasions.[/QUOTE]Had a guy or two blast me in the same way on the Portugal and Spain forums. Granted my posts were less from personal experience and more from taking information from the best reviewers on the local boards and relaying them.

One of those guys preferred the street scene, and the other one preferred the lesser-known German clubs.

The street scene has largely disappeared throughout the world, and in my opinion, technology and political propaganda will eventually destroy the club scene. Germany and Brazil are pretty much the last stands of the club scene, and the decline will take a long time, but I think it will happen. With Germany, all that is really required is a destruction of the Romanian pipeline, and because it is a regulated workplace, that is easy for the government to accomplish. Look at how hostile Germany was to the operation of FKKs during Covid. In every country of the world, except of course China, independent escorts continued to operate regardless of what the government told them to do, or not do. In Los Angeles, there were no restrictions on travel to and from grocery stores, so independents would stick a bag of canned groceries in their cars when doing outcall.

Got off the subject a bit, but your London posts are invaluable to the many travelers to London. In a market of independents and escort services, reviews are all we have. It isn't like the club scene where there is interaction opportunity, or the street / Hooker bar scene where some level of visual and limited interaction opportunity exists. Some guys, including you, like the Sugar scene, where some level of interaction occurs, albeit with the addition of uncertainty regarding the occurrence of sex, and the likelihood of incurring more costs and certainly more time than seeing an escort.

But for booking an escort in London your posts are invaluable and appreciated. Reading reviews and getting recommendations is simply the only way to know what you are going to get in an environment that doesn't involve pre-transaction interaction. So guys, if you don't like that structure, please quit shooting the messenger. And keep in mind that independent escorts and ladies working together in relatively small and discreet groups is becoming the predominant trend in most cities worldwide. The cell phone and the internet changed things. There are two reasons you have to store those cell phones at German FKKs. One is the risk of pictures, but the other is that the FKK owners don't want to look at the device they know is the enemy.

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2683818]I mentioned in the past that Diva is not the only agency the same girl advertises.

Some people here are Hell Bent on Divas agency.

You guys are heavily influenced by Steve9696 massive advertising techniques.....[/QUOTE]We can only be guided by posters who have posted their experiences not by blokes who criticize others without posting any experiences of their own.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2683966]We can only be guided by posters who have posted their experiences not by blokes who criticize others without posting any experiences of their own.[/QUOTE]SL,

I concur, post your adventures, it helps all of us. It especially helps those of us who do not go very often.

I admit, I am heavily influenced by Steve9696 (his stories are so darn persuasive and accurate based on my limited experiences). I would appreciate a different and better way to monger next time I am in London if you are willing to educate me.

MM.

Always check you have space in your inbox fof members to private message you.

[QUOTE=XxxJk18;2681505]Hi brothers, visiting London in May. Would love to have some ethnic britsih chick and others (asians and europeans) . Will be at croydon, london. No idea about the geography. Hope croydon isn't a bad place for mongers like us. Kindly give some agency WA or websites that would suit my location and interest... any time at India/chennai , i can help with the same[/QUOTE]