East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Canyon; 1536267]Viajando,

That's how the market works. The girls have an interest in making as much money as possible, so it doesn't seem right to criticize them for asking for a higher price. You would do the same thing if the roles were reversed. If you don't want to pay that price, just move on and find someone else. If the girls ask a price that is too high, then no one will purchase their services and they will have to lower their price. If they get enough customers at the higher price, good for them, but you don't have to go with them.

The same thing applies to you. I don't know where you work or what you do, but if someone agreed to pay you 50% more for the same work you're doing now, I think you would change jobs right away.[/QUOTE]Being a businessman by trade for close to 25 years, I think I understand a little of how the market works. But I think you missed my point. I have no problem with the girl charging higher prices and gets them. I will even pay for it if that is what I want. What I am saying is, I am doubtful about the intension and activities of SHG on this forum. As other posters pointed out, He should promote his website on the classified section instead of the general info section. We, including SHG, you and me, all benefit from info that other members shared on this forum either through open or private messages without cost to us. Most of the other members in return, share their info without any financial interest. That is the spirit of this wonderful free forum.

As I said, I don't know how much Patiko charged before when she worked in Manhattan. If what she charged was in line with other Latinas hotties I met, do you think SHG, by recruiting the girls to his website is looking after other members' interest including yours and mine, or that of his own?

As I said, I don't know how much Patiko charged before when she worked in Manhattan. If what she charged was in line with other Latinas hotties I met, do you think SHG, by recruiting the girls to his website is looking after other members' interest including yours and mine, or that of his own?[/QUOTE]Viajando,

I have a somewhat different point of view than you do. I don't think it's anyone's responsibility on this board to keep prices low. In fact, I don't think that's possible, since we're a small subset of mongers in Shanghai. I don't think anyone on the board has a responsibility to look out for the interest of others. It's every man for himself. I do, however, think this board has a very useful function, because it supplies us with knowledge. In this regard, I think SHG is doing a good job of providing us with information. I don't object to his having a commercial interest, since it's clear what he does. It's not hidden. As long as the host of the ISG has no problem with SHG, I think he should be free to have commercial messages that don't go over the line.

As far as recruiting girls for his site and raising their price. I think that's fine. He certainly is doing the girls a favor. He has no obligation to keep prices low for us. If Patiko's price is too high, the monger should go elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1536408]As far as recruiting girls for his site and raising their price. I think that's fine. He certainly is doing the girls a favor. He has no obligation to keep prices low for us. If Patiko's price is too high, the monger should go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I learned quickly that in asia, if a girl advertises herself online, the price is usually doubled from the local area. Perhaps I have the home advantage of finding p4p hot pussy at a decent price. In fact, I only look at online escort advertisements for comic relief.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1536408]As far as recruiting girls for his site and raising their price. I think that's fine. He certainly is doing the girls a favor. He has no obligation to keep prices low for us.[/QUOTE]I respect your point of view.

[QUOTE=Masslin;1533138]According to the newest news, the LE in Shanghai will take large-scale action to clamp down on prostitution. Time will be 18:00-2:00 this Monday to Saturday. Hope this can arouse everyone's attention. No matter if this news is true, I think everyone need to be careful when mongering these days.[/QUOTE]In the light of Dongguan crackdown, what is the scene in SH? Are the saunas like Scarosa, Hong Song, filled upto capacity with girls or shut down? Is it dangerous to venture at these places these days?

[QUOTE=Dewdrops;1538172]In the light of Dongguan crackdown, what is the scene in SH? Are the saunas like Scarosa, Hong Song, filled upto capacity with girls or shut down? Is it dangerous to venture at these places these days?[/QUOTE]I noticed that the very well lit 'in your face' places on Jintai Road. Were all closed tonight. The massage clip joints on Yinshan Road. Appeared to be open. Perhaps business is possible if you keep a low profile.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1538285]I noticed that the very well lit 'in your face' places on Jintai Road. Were all closed tonight. The massage clip joints on Yinshan Road. Appeared to be open. Perhaps business is possible if you keep a low profile.[/QUOTE]Any other reports? I will be in SH next week. Post or PM me. Let me know what you know.

Stay safe out there.

Sam Can

Hi all,

I'm new to this site, I'll be arriving in SH in a couple of days and was wondering what the best sauna was at present? I've done some research and read the past 50 posts or so. Is ba li ya that impossible to find? Otherwise I'm thinking of going to Tang Dynasty maybe.

Another question: is getting BBBJ very risky in terms of std? Obviously there's a risk but not that big it seems?

Thanks a lot,

All the best.

Hi guys,

I'm new to this site but I've read past 50 posts.

Any good recommendation for sauna please? Has anyone been to Ba li ya and is it that good? Seems hard to find though.

Also, is there much risk of catching stds from BBBJ or is the risk small?

Thanks a lot,

Mike

Just out of curiosity, would anyone be willing to pay 2500 RMB for about a hour with an alleged "Japan AV actress" making a fast buck in Shanghai? I received an ad on wechat from a Shanghai SN selling this service. The place is selling "basic service" from said actress. I am guessing 1Q, cover everything, and don't expect a BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Mike666;1538606]Just out of curiosity, would anyone be willing to pay 2500 RMB for about a hour with an alleged "Japan AV actress" making a fast buck in Shanghai? I received an ad on wechat from a Shanghai SN selling this service. The place is selling "basic service" from said actress. I am guessing 1Q, cover everything, and don't expect a BBBJ.[/QUOTE]I am betting this is a scam. Go ahead and try it! Take one for the team. (smiley face)

[QUOTE=Dewdrops;1538172]In the light of Dongguan crackdown, what is the scene in SH? Are the saunas like Scarosa, Hong Song, filled upto capacity with girls or shut down? Is it dangerous to venture at these places these days?[/QUOTE]I am in touch with some sauna girls and they are not effected in Shanghai till now, so means till now no raids and also no location has been closed, but some sauna clubs act more "carefull" now, so for example in the 1066 Sauna you need to call them for a reservation, otherwise the door will be closed for you.

Other places like the Jun Hao Sauna or Tang Dynasty had a "security system" like that before already (only if the guard call down or up the elevator, you can enter the place) , so for them no difference now. The KTV business went down a little bit, because also some Chinese customers are afraid about upcoming problems, so also around 20 to 30% less customers now in most KTVs, but finally nothing happend till now in Shanghai. I would say at the moment no need to worry about that. There is even a effect that several girls who worked in Dongguan before now went over to Shanghai, so not bad for the selection here in the city. It should not be dangerous (but it`s up to you if you want to take the risk) , because even in Dongguan every Sauna and Club has been informed about that raid at least some hours before the police show up (even they did not use the local police for the raids) , so nothing was really a "surprise". Only if a Sauna don`t want you to enter the club, than better leave, because than it`s a chance that they are informed about a upcoming rate. But if they let you enter the club, than you can be nearly sure there will be no problem.

[QUOTE=Mike666;1538606]Just out of curiosity, would anyone be willing to pay 2500 RMB for about a hour with an alleged "Japan AV actress" making a fast buck in Shanghai? I received an ad on wechat from a Shanghai SN selling this service. The place is selling "basic service" from said actress. I am guessing 1Q, cover everything, and don't expect a BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Depends if you are in touch with a "serious" sauna club or a black one! If it is a black one, than cheating, you will have to pay 25000 finally and so on. You can check plenty reports of "black massage stores" here in the forum or elsewhere. If it is a "serious" club like Jun Hao for example, than you will get that session. I know for example last time I was in Tang Dynasty, they have been very proud to introduce a holland girl, a Russian and a phillipine girl to me, so they work offer "migrant worker" from time to time, and I am sure a japanese girl (not important if she ever worked as a AV actress) will bring good money for them.

But be carefull not to step into a "tourist trap" of a black shop!

Enjoy Shanghai,

Steven

[QUOTE=MikeKohk; 1538397]Hi guys,

I'm new to this site but I've read past 50 posts.

Any good recommendation for sauna please? Has anyone been to Ba li ya and is it that good? Seems hard to find though.

Also, is there much risk of catching stds from BBBJ or is the risk small?

Thanks a lot,

Mike[/QUOTE]The most popular Sauna Clubs here in the forum are the Bodi. 999, Hong Song and Jun Hao. Search for that, and you should find what you are looking for!

I know 3 guys already who catched a stds from a BBBJ, so it`s possible, but I don`t know how many times they did do BBBJ without any problem, so I can not give you a "% number" (and I am sure no one else here will give you that). And to be honest, for that questions you better search in a medical forum!

I have read the board, but I really do not understand the difference.

I am only going to be inShanghai 3 days, so my plan is Sauna or MP (depending on where I can get BBBJ and FS) and Manhattans. Knowing the difference between a Sauna and a MP would be useful!

Can someone help out? Thanks