Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2614002]I'm in doubt between the 2 here in Laureles. I have never been there so I cannot judge if one location is better than the other.

1) [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/50138082[/URL].

2) [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/15704875[/URL].

I'm looking for a quiet, comfy place to have guests (they are both guest friendly). I just prefer to stay lower than USD65/ night.[/QUOTE]I rented the first one, and it was great! Chicas loved it. Quiet residential neighborhood, great cafe downstairs to have breakfast or lunch.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2614113]I never want to have a lot of cash on me, as in bringing cash from home to exchange when I'm there. So I always just withdraw pesos using my debit card. My bank charges 5 bucks for foreign withdrawals. Normal for Canadian banks, and no matter how you get your money you also are charged for exchanging the money based on the rate they give you. Not a direct charge.

Banks will often say. Oh, we have no fees. But the exchange rate they give you is less than the quoted exchange rates, which are the mid-market rates. In Canada the banks have to disclose what this difference is, and depending on which bank is 2. 5 or 3. 5 percent. In the USA I'm not sure they are required to disclose that so, if not, you could look up the rate you got and compare it by looking up the actual rate for that day (or the day before, some banks use the rate from the previous day).

As for exchanging actual cash, yes, there are exchange places all over, especially in Poblado, with several in Santa Fe mall especially.[/QUOTE]I'm with you man on only using ATMs but I'm familiar with the currency exchanges for my friends that come with cash so I answered the question.

On the topic of ATMs it's weird how different ATMs from the same bank will treat you differently. I only use BancoColombia ATMs out of habit and knowing I've been treated fairly over several years. Like full exchange rate fairly! So I still use them. But some of their machines will not give cash unless you accept an unfair exchange rate. I always decline it of course and they will end the transaction there. Other BancoColombia ATMs will offer a second option of cash withdrawal without the unfair exchange rate. And still other ATMs will just give the fair exchange rate without even asking if you want to be shafted with the unfair exchange rate. And each time I return to Colombia I never know which ATMs will react which way. It's sort of like slot machines jajajaa. What a weird banking system LOL!

Monday night there were many people out until 10:00 pm. Tuesday night the amount of people were half the night before. About 9:30 I went to the side of the church headed to the bar area behind the church to where there normally is an empanda stand but not tonight. At the corner where the yellow restaurant is I stopped to chat a girl I had been with a few times. Three guys were standing together nearby but as soon as I got there they separated and spaced themselves out around the corner and thus around me and surely looking down the street for police. So I quickly crossed the street. Soon a motorcycle cop turned to go down the walkway leading to the church so I followed him back. Pretty damn positive something was about to happen. Things are changing again in Botero. Be careful. When the police leave you leave.

One my walk back to my hotel I watched a guy pull out a knife on another guy under the metro. Nothing happened but still messes with ones peace of mind. I like how cheap it is here but could never retire here. Can never let your guard down. That sucks! NO peace of mind.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2614123]And each time I return to Colombia I never know which ATMs will react which way. It's sort of like slot machines jajajaa. What a weird banking system LOL![/QUOTE]I usually cancel the transaction if the ATM does not allow me to decline conversion. A lot of time Bancolombia has 3 ATM in the same room, I just try a different ATM.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2614123]I'm with you man on only using ATMs but I'm familiar with the currency exchanges for my friends that come with cash so I answered the question.

On the topic of ATMs it's weird how different ATMs from the same bank will treat you differently. I only use BancoColombia ATMs out of habit and knowing I've been treated fairly over several years. Like full exchange rate fairly! So I still use them. But some of their machines will not give cash unless you accept an unfair exchange rate. I always decline it of course and they will end the transaction there. Other BancoColombia ATMs will offer a second option of cash withdrawal without the unfair exchange rate. And still other ATMs will just give the fair exchange rate without even asking if you want to be shafted with the unfair exchange rate. And each time I return to Colombia I never know which ATMs will react which way. It's sort of like slot machines jajajaa. What a weird banking system LOL![/QUOTE]Bancolombia doesn't treat anyone fairly and has all knids of fees they charge their customers that bank with them not unlike Bank of America and Wells Fargo in the USA. However the majority of Colombians bank with them because their omnipresent within the Country, and do have a good platform for paying people and easily transferring funds between parties with their App.

And when it comes to a favorable exchange rate when using their ATM's, well besides all the gimmicks and stuff they try to pull, they've never ever offered a good exchange rate, albeit there are others that are even worse.

Insiders tip, Scotia is your best bet irrespective of fees charged by your bank for using your card if at all.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2614070]There were four cops in my hotel room pointing their guns at me initially while telling me that I would be going away to prison for a long time, for infantile porn in my phone and for having an underage girl in my room, who they dragged back in as part of the act, even though none of it was true. They are using a 19 year old girl for the sting and all the photos in my phone are of adults.

I managed to flush all my Tussy after they found it and while the cops were still in the room at the same time. If I do say so myself that took some steel Kahuna's but they were more interested in extorting several million pesos from me than anything else. More to come but hopefully that's enough to convince you to stay away from her.[/QUOTE]Hopefully your next post is not going to be from your jail cell. I guess you can't make this stuff up unless your a good fiction writer.

Waiting for the next chapter of your saga.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2614192]Bancolombia doesn't treat anyone fairly and has all knids of fees they charge their customers that bank with them not unlike Bank of America and Wells Fargo in the USA. However the majority of Colombians bank with them because their omnipresent within the Country, and do have a good platform for paying people and easily transferring funds between parties with their App.

And when it comes to a favorable exchange rate when using their ATM's, well besides all the gimmicks and stuff they try to pull, they've never ever offered a good exchange rate, albeit there are others that are even worse.

Insiders tip, Scotia is your best bet irrespective of fees charged by your bank for using your card if at all.[/QUOTE]I second that, I tried all the ATMs in Cartagena using a chase card,. Scotia was by far the best, but the inly ATM there was unreliable, bancolombia ended up same as if I had cash and went to a street cashier.

Any one tried a Citi card using Citibank ATMs? They should use visa conversion and no fees, but haven't tried yet.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2614070]......There were four cops in my hotel room pointing their guns at me initially while telling me that I would be going away to prison for a long time, for infantile porn in my phone and for having an underage girl in my room, who they dragged back in as part of the act, even though none of it was true. They are using a 19 year old girl for the sting and all the photos in my phone are of adults.....[/QUOTE]This is the first such case I have read of. If all you have stated on the matter is the case then this is extremely worrying. What happened when you were in the room with the girl? The pictures you shared earlier are not your usual type of photos.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2614070]You may recall my computer is still broken, and I'm using an old Samsung pre-Galaxy phone to post everything for the past month or so. Then, after the recent internet crash my phone has a glitch whether I type or use voice to text, it's a total PITA to post anything. That is why my posts have sounded so wonky lately and I've mentioned it several times. After having to retype the same sentence retype 5 or 6 times after a while I just have to give up. Plus, sometimes I'm stoned out of my mind but I think that is some of my best work when I read back, jaja.

As a PSA I wanted to get the word out rapidly before anybody else fell prey to Mini Vennie.

At this moment my voice dictation is working pretty good.

There were four cops in my hotel room pointing their guns at me initially while telling me that I would be going away to prison for a long time, for infantile porn in my phone and for having an underage girl in my room, who they dragged back in as part of the act, even though none of it was true. They are using a 19 year old girl for the sting and all the photos in my phone are of adults.[/QUOTE]When I was working with webcam models I always needed 3 pictures of the girls' cedulas, only 2 for Vennies (Venezuelan cedula has the birthday on the front). One of each side and 1 of the girl holding the cedula next to her face. All the webcam sites require this for verification.

Whenever I did a photo or video shoot for a girl everything went into a folder with the girl's name along with the cedula photos. I don't normally take a lot of photos of the girls I'm with, but for those who do, you might consider a system like this, not only for organization, but to keep proof of age, if you've ever got police going through your phone and computer.

One thing about checking cedulas everyone should be aware of. There are fake cedulas out there. Some girls use stolen cedulas, while others borrow a cedula from an older sister or cousin. While the cedula may get the girl into your room it's not a failsafe proof of age. If she looks too young, it's best to pass her by.

I've often seen girls on Facebook asking who has a cedula they can borrow. One girl, who wanted to do webcam, but wasn't 18 yet said for 50 k she could get someone to make her a cedula.

Something I always look for with Facebook girls; birthday pictures. Often they will have photos of their birthday with balloons showing their age. I consider that more dependable than a cedula.

I normally just go to whatever closest available to me, a lot of time Bancolombia. What are the best ATM to use for the best conversion rate?

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2614257]I normally just go to whatever closest available to me, a lot of time Bancolombia. What are the best ATM to use for the best conversion rate?[/QUOTE]Best ATM to use is Davivienda. They allow 2,000,000 each hit (most machines), no withdrawal fees rfom the Colombian bank. That also saves on fees at your end too. Just decline the conversion bcos no doubt your bank will give you a better rate when they get the transaction posted.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2614253]One thing about checking cedulas everyone should be aware of. There are fake cedulas out there. Some girls use stolen cedulas[/QUOTE]I know its not smthg that will come in to the corrupt Colombia police behaviour, but I am curious what the actual law would be when someone uses a fake cedula. Given that you're a tourist and not familiar with what a real cedula looks like, surely equity would dictate that you could not be found guilty under these circumstances? . Hypothetically.

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2614257]I normally just go to whatever closest available to me, a lot of time Bancolombia. What are the best ATM to use for the best conversion rate?[/QUOTE]My experience is that Bancolombia gives the full XE rate if you find their machines that don't ask you to accept a conversion rate (which will rip you off). Looking at my last statement I made many pulls of 600 mil pesos (the ATM max) the last week of September and paid as low as $156.05 and as high as $156.42. So the conversion rate ranged from 3845 at best to 3836 at worst which is right at where [URL]XE.com[/URL] showed the official rate those days. I should mention my bank pays all ATM fees so maybe that's why I'm able to get the full exchange rate from Bancolombia's ATMs.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2614263]Best ATM to use is Davivienda. They allow 2,000,000 each hit (most machines), no withdrawal fees rfom the Colombian bank. That also saves on fees at your end too. Just decline the conversion bcos no doubt your bank will give you a better rate when they get the transaction posted.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2614268]My experience is that Bancolombia gives the full XE rate if you find their machines that don't ask you to accept a conversion rate (which will rip you off). Looking at my last statement I made many pulls of 600 mil pesos (the ATM max) the last week of September and paid as low as $156.05 and as high as $156.42. So the conversion rate ranged from 3845 at best to 3836 at worst which is right at where [URL]XE.com[/URL] showed the official rate those days. I should mention my bank pays all ATM fees so maybe that's why I'm able to get the full exchange rate from Bancolombia's ATMs.[/QUOTE]I'm in the same boat as Lucky Nuts, my bank will refund all the fees. So, I always withdraw whatever I need. I only care about the best XE rate.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2614070]... There were four cops in my hotel room pointing their guns at me initially while telling me that I would be going away to prison for a long time, for infantile porn in my phone and for having an underage girl in my room, who they dragged back in as part of the act, even though none of it was true. They are using a 19 year old girl for the sting and all the photos in my phone are of adults.

I managed to flush all my Tussy after they found it and while the cops were still in the room at the same time. If I do say so myself that took some steel Kahuna's but they were more interested in extorting several million pesos from me than anything else. More to come but hopefully that's enough to convince you to stay away from her....[/QUOTE]Osteo, your posts are inspirational and educative and you are a guide for many old and new mongers: please stay free & healthy and -keep publishing!

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2614268]My experience is that Bancolombia gives the full XE rate if you find their machines that don't ask you to accept a conversion rate (which will rip you off). Looking at my last statement I made many pulls of 600 mil pesos (the ATM max) the last week of September and paid as low as $156.05 and as high as $156.42. So the conversion rate ranged from 3845 at best to 3836 at worst which is right at where [URL]XE.com[/URL] showed the official rate those days. I should mention my bank pays all ATM fees so maybe that's why I'm able to get the full exchange rate from Bancolombia's ATMs.[/QUOTE]All the banks I know do the exchange at your home bank. So the exchange rate does not depend on which bank you withdraw money from. That is true for Canadian banks, the big 5. Not sure about US banks. Some of the Canadian banks charge 2. 5%, others 3. 5%. So for me it doesn't matter which Colombian bank I withdraw from. I try to get one with no ATM fee (Scotia / Colpatria) and one that will give me the greatest amount to minimize the impact of the $5 foreign cash withdrawal fee (again, all the Canadian banks have at least a $5 fee for this).

[QUOTE=Beobeo;2614301]I'm in the same boat as Lucky Nuts, my bank will refund all the fees. So, I always withdraw whatever I need. I only care about the best XE rate.[/QUOTE]I've written about this before. You will not be getting the XE rate. That just isn't how it works. The XE rate is a market transaction rate. It is going up and down throughout the day. What you get (assuming you decline the Bank's Conversion rate. Which is a total rip off) is the Visa interbank rate. This rate is set every night at about midnight EST. It reflects what is happening in the currency exchange markets (I. E. The XE rate).

So if you se the XE rate climbing during the day. Wait and get your money tomorrow because Visa will likely raise their inter-bank rate. If you see the XE rate declining during the day and you need money, get it today because most likely the Visa rate that you get from your Colombian bank will be less tomorrow.

On Friday night the rate is set for the weekend (meaning Saturday, Sunday and Monday). Why Monday? Because Sunday at midnight there were no transactions on Sunday with which Visa would modify their rate.

You can search for Visa Exchange Rate. Put in any amount (it really doesn't matter) and put in a 0% bank fee. Then put in United States as the card issuing country (unless your bank is from another country) and put in Colombia and you will get the Visa Rate for the day. Compare that to how much it cost you when you do a withdrawal and you will find that it matches exactly.

Where can I get an actual real massage (no sex) for a decent price in Medellíand? My back been hurting me lately.

Thanks in advance.

Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2614332]All the banks I know do the exchange at your home bank. So the exchange rate does not depend on which bank you withdraw money from. That is true for Canadian banks, the big 5. Not sure about US banks. [/QUOTE]I don't know anything about the Canadian banking system, but I doubt it is different from almost every other country. If the ATM has a Visa or Mastercard emblem on it, the transaction goes through a clearing house which determines the exchange rate. If you look at the Visa foreign exchange rate, that will be real close to the exchange rate you will get at Visa affiliated ATM's. Some banks charge a clearing house fee, which will cause your rate to be a little lower. You will not get the XE rate. The visa rate lags the XE rate by two days. That works well for users of ATM's because you can foresee fluctuations. If the dollar has a big fall in value, you have two days to get the higher rate at an ATM. For example, today's XE rate for COP/USD is 3740/1 and the Visa rate is 3765/1. The XE rate during the day Monday was 3767. If you withdrew money today, you should have gotten close to 3765. Of course, if your bank charges a fee, the final rate you receive will be less. The OP is correct that the exchange rate is not determined by the ATM bank.

After 3 weeks in Cucuta I decided to fly to Punta Cana DR with "Wingo" from Medellin so to get to Medellin I took a direct flight with Viva AIR. At Medellin airport, The 13 k BUS took me to centro and from there I took a UBER to [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/fZv5BkfQ9qfGuRmZ9[/URL] but this area is not for me and all hotels there are look like a dog houses to me.

So after the first night I took a UBER to [URL]https://g.page/hotelsanpedrodelfuerte?share[/URL] and book a suit with Agoda, its a 3 room apartment for 140 K. I like the apartment but wrote a negative review on google map because the reception girl told me I need to pay 50 K for a visitor. After 2 hours the owner came to me crying that I hurt the hotel reputation so I told him why you want money for a visitor? Sory I need to pay tax for each of them he keep crying the hotel is for your service please delete this negative review. OK I felt sorry and delete it.

Now what? Mongering time I went to [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/6NPR9sLxcLNtDBHt9[/URL] which is next to my hotel and stop to eat a fish around the corner for 15 k [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/Yw5D3AmURwX6eFQF6[/URL] then went to the casa which is extremely east to find. During the presentation the reception girl told me that the price vary according to time from 60 K to 100 K. Anyway I saw a sex bomb and took her immodestly the room was real room with big bed not what you find in Bogota. Everything super clean and nice. Girls perform 10/10 but no photo allows. I will submit a bad report on google map LOL So gave her 20 K tip and really enjoy this Venezuelan porn star.

Now what? I decide to move again and booked 40 used Airbnb in "Parque de El Poblado" but not before I email the owner which promise me that his apartment is 100% visitor free fee.

Lets see.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2614355]I don't know anything about the Canadian banking system, but I doubt it is different from almost every other country. If the ATM has a Visa or Mastercard emblem on it, the transaction goes through a clearing house which determines the exchange rate. If you look at the Visa foreign exchange rate, that will be real close to the exchange rate you will get at Visa affiliated ATM's. Some banks charge a clearing house fee, which will cause your rate to be a little lower. You will not get the XE rate. The visa rate lags the XE rate by two days. That works well for users of ATM's because you can foresee fluctuations. If the dollar has a big fall in value, you have two days to get the higher rate at an ATM. For example, today's XE rate for COP/USD is 3740/1 and the Visa rate is 3765/1. The XE rate during the day Monday was 3767. If you withdrew money today, you should have gotten close to 3765. Of course, if your bank charges a fee, the final rate you receive will be less. The OP is correct that the exchange rate is not determined by the ATM bank.[/QUOTE]I'll have to check all that out. It makes sense. Part of the difference is that Canada had it's own debit card system. Interac - that may have handled clearing a bit differently, but most banks now are going to visa or mastercard for international transactions. I think it claims to be 2. 5% for transactions to Canadian dollar accounts. And either way there was a lag. Good to know about the 2 days. I'll watch for that.

When I checked the cost of taking out Colombian currency at home it worked out to around 5 or 6% cost, so I still think ATM withdrawals are the way to go. And taking Canadian dollars almost anywhere (except Cuba) is not an option as even banks will balk at exchanging it. And taking American dollars means a double hit on exchange fees. So that's not an option.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2614264]I know its not smthg that will come in to the corrupt Colombia police behaviour, but I am curious what the actual law would be when someone uses a fake cedula. Given that you're a tourist and not familiar with what a real cedula looks like, surely equity would dictate that you could not be found guilty under these circumstances? . Hypothetically.[/QUOTE]In an ideal world that would be correct. Unfortunately, because of the way the Colombian legal system works none of that matters.

If the police decide to arrest you, a determination is made on whether they have sufficient cause to charge you. If they decide the answer is yes you go to prison. You stay in prison until they decide they are ready to send you to trial. There is no time limit. You could be there for years before they make a decision.

That's what happened to the last high profile gringo to get arrested for that crime. He was never tried. After less than a year in prison he committed suicide.

You can retire in Medellin just stay away from the Botero area. Medellin and some of the surrounding areas are relatively safe. If you hang out in el centro which is the arm pit of Medellin what do you expect?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2614136]Monday night there were many people out until 10:00 pm. Tuesday night the amount of people were half the night before. About 9:30 I went to the side of the church headed to the bar area behind the church to where there normally is an empanda stand but not tonight. At the corner where the yellow restaurant is I stopped to chat a girl I had been with a few times. Three guys were standing together nearby but as soon as I got there they separated and spaced themselves out around the corner and thus around me and surely looking down the street for police. So I quickly crossed the street. Soon a motorcycle cop turned to go down the walkway leading to the church so I followed him back. Pretty damn positive something was about to happen. Things are changing again in Botero. Be careful. When the police leave you leave.

One my walk back to my hotel I watched a guy pull out a knife on another guy under the metro. Nothing happened but still messes with ones peace of mind. I like how cheap it is here but could never retire here. Can never let your guard down. That sucks! NO peace of mind.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2614371]I'll have to check all that out. It makes sense. Part of the difference is that Canada had it's own debit card system. Interac - that may have handled clearing a bit differently, but most banks now are going to visa or mastercard for international transactions. I think it claims to be 2. 5% for transactions to Canadian dollar accounts. And either way there was a lag. Good to know about the 2 days. I'll watch for that.

When I checked the cost of taking out Colombian currency at home it worked out to around 5 or 6% cost, so I still think ATM withdrawals are the way to go. And taking Canadian dollars almost anywhere (except Cuba) is not an option as even banks will balk at exchanging it. And taking American dollars means a double hit on exchange fees. So that's not an option.[/QUOTE]I'm travelling soon to Medellin from Canada. I have signed up for a Stack debit card. No foreign exchange or transaction fees. There is also Koho but you need to pay a monthly fee to get no foreign fees (but there is a one month free trial). I'm yet to use the Stack card so can't comment on it's conversion rate or ease of use. But the customer service has so far been quick to answer any queries.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2614371]I'll have to check all that out. It makes sense. Part of the difference is that Canada had it's own debit card system. Interac - that may have handled clearing a bit differently, but most banks now are going to visa or mastercard for international transactions. I think it claims to be 2. 5% for transactions to Canadian dollar accounts. And either way there was a lag. Good to know about the 2 days. I'll watch for that.

When I checked the cost of taking out Colombian currency at home it worked out to around 5 or 6% cost, so I still think ATM withdrawals are the way to go. And taking Canadian dollars almost anywhere (except Cuba) is not an option as even banks will balk at exchanging it. And taking American dollars means a double hit on exchange fees. So that's not an option.[/QUOTE]Granted it has been a while since I have been in Colombia but yes my Canadian bank card worked in the ATMs of the larger banks and at that time there was no exchange fee. There is now. If you want to get US dollars without getting tagged for the exchange fee. You can use the Norbert gambit if you have a stock trading platform and a US dollar account. Just buy a dual traded stock on the TSX. Transfer it to your US trading account and it will be converted at todays exchange. Cash it into your US dollar account and save the 2 percent exchange fee- saves about 180 on $10 k. Really not worth doing unless you are exchanging a lot of money.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2614264]I know its not smthg that will come in to the corrupt Colombia police behaviour, but I am curious what the actual law would be when someone uses a fake cedula. Given that you're a tourist and not familiar with what a real cedula looks like, surely equity would dictate that you could not be found guilty under these circumstances? Hypothetically.[/QUOTE]LOL. You're adorable.

I dipped my toe in the water at a couple of spas when I had pockets of free time.

Nothing breaking new ground, just want to report back into the forum. Hit Om Spa. Massage was fair with he. Oral finsih was also offered, but declined.

Also hit DoSpa. Massage was better than Om. HJ, oral, and FS were offered. I was worked up from the massage so opted for FS. Masseuse was attractive. Enhanced top, bottom was natural and fat. Tight body, nice skin, decent service that concluded with a shoulder massage. I'd repeat out of convenience, but would spend less time on the massage. I'll check out aspects of the scene as time permits.

Also, thanks to those who offered contacts of service providers via my DM. I'll report back if I session.

P.S. I used a BBVA ATM and was only able to get 300 K out. I'll use one of the other banks previously posted next time.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2612599]Police called to Botero Real.[/QUOTE]Update and corrections to the guy calling the police on the girl.

Nobody knows what happened in the room. Case of she said he said. Small probability that the guy liked it rough or kinky and that the girl did not want. Higher probability was a communication issue. Highest probability would be she shorted the service time or functions agreed to. I had her twice with no problems but I am pretty vanilla.

They have an argument in front of the office where she loses face and is embarrassed. I was there. He threatened to call the police but still paid her 50,000. They leave.

Board member tells me she went to him to explain what happened. Guess she was not satisfied and turned her lose of face to anger because SHE then walked over to the police. She got the police involved. Claimed the guy with the cane did not pay her. Went back to the hotel and the receptionist verified that she was paid so she did not get the extra 50,000 that she wanted.

Hate to see all that happen to both of them. It was a lose-lose for everyone.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2614384]You can retire in Medellin just stay away from the Botero area. Medellin and some of the surrounding areas are relatively safe. If you hang out in el centro which is the arm pit of Medellin what do you expect?[/QUOTE]I was comparing the 24 hour street scene carefree safety of Pattaya Thailand and Angeles City Philippines. So a fair comparison was made comparing street girl area to street girl area.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2614136] Things are changing again in Botero. Be careful. When the police leave you leave.
One my walk back to my hotel I watched a guy pull out a knife on another guy under the metro..[/QUOTE]"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe. " - Frederick Douglass.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2614136]Things are changing again in Botero. Be careful. When the police leave you leave..[/QUOTE]Yes indeed, during the height of the revolts and demonstrations over the failed tax proposal by Duque, a lot of the police were diverted from Centro and the rateros were having a filed day ripping people off when there was no police presence.

[QUOTE=NIO400;2614362]After 3 weeks in Cucuta I decided to fly to Punta Cana DR with "Wingo" from Medellin so to get to Medellin I took a direct flight with Viva AIR. At Medellin airport, The 13 k BUS took me to centro and from there I took a UBER to [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/fZv5BkfQ9qfGuRmZ9[/URL] but this area is not for me and all hotels there are look like a dog houses to me.

So after the first night I took a UBER to [URL]https://g.page/hotelsanpedrodelfuerte?share[/URL] and book a suit with Agoda, its a 3 room apartment for 140 K. I like the apartment but wrote a negative review on google map because the reception girl told me I need to pay 50 K for a visitor. After 2 hours the owner came to me crying that I hurt the hotel reputation so I told him why you want money for a visitor? Sory I need to pay tax for each of them he keep crying the hotel is for your service please delete this negative review. OK I felt sorry and delete it..[/QUOTE]Here's a suggestion. Instead of leaving a bad review, leave an accurate review. If everything about the place is nice, and the only problem is they charge a fee for each guest, it's not a bad place, it just doesn't meet your needs. This is much more helpful for others.

If you're being fair, you should have verified the guest policy before booking.

You will probably find that most casas won't allow photos.

Leaving a bad review doesn't help anyone unless it's just a completely terrible place. Be specific with the things that need improvement. This gives the owner incentive to make improvements, and informs others what to expect. What may be a problem for you, might be what someone else is looking for.

[QUOTE=MixedSalad07;2612683]Will send a DM to request her number. If anyone else has any contacts they feel like sharing, please hit my DM.[/QUOTE]Yep, I agree! I have seen her twice and once we did a Communa 13 tour together. She is a great person and always gets the job done too!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2614540]You will probably find that most casas won't allow photos.

Lr.[/QUOTE]They allows but not naked. In Cucuta and Bogota everything is allowed.

My bad review was very accurate and specific with many issue with the apartment but don't believe google review everything is amazing there. You want quality and problem free go to Asia.

But here is also fun and I do enjoy the girls and everything but the accommodation. (Except Cucuta).

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2614121]That and how did he manage to flush the Tusi down the toilet right in front of the cops, and after they had already found it? And were they successful in their attempt to extort the 7 million? I suppose we will have to wait on the next round of Tusi induced hallucinations in order to find out.

$$, COP, more $$ + anything of value then G T F O, l o l.

"Just say no" circa 1982 - Nancy Reagan.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2614429]Update and corrections to the guy calling the police on the girl.

Nobody knows what happened in the room. Case of she said he said. Small probability that the guy liked it rough or kinky and that the girl did not want. Higher probability was a communication issue. Highest probability would be she shorted the service time or functions agreed to. I had her twice with no problems but I am pretty vanilla.

They have an argument in front of the office where she loses face and is embarrassed. I was there. He threatened to call the police but still paid her 50,000. They leave.

Board member tells me she went to him to explain what happened. Guess she was not satisfied and turned her lose of face to anger because SHE then walked over to the police. She got the police involved. Claimed the guy with the cane did not pay her. Went back to the hotel and the receptionist verified that she was paid so she did not get the extra 50,000 that she wanted.

Hate to see all that happen to both of them. It was a lose-lose for everyone.[/QUOTE]I had an instance where a girl demanded more money from me not because of anything I did, but because she thought she could extort the money from me threatening to call the police. So I turned tha tables on her, told her I will tell the Police that she robbed me, and that I would pay her what we agreed to but not inside the room but in reception and she finally agreed.

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[QUOTE=Bill;2614565] "Just say no" circa 1982 .[/QUOTE]That's exactly what I do when it comes to stuff like Tusi and coke, works very well, Only weaklings think they have no choice.

I made it through Gate 60 in MIA always an interesting spot it's really 10 mini gates combined into one gate anybody who goes thru there knows what I'm talking about.

I arrived in Medellin July 24th, returned yesterday. I have 10 days left on this year's tourist visa made abundantly clear to me by the emigration official in the Medellin airport as I was leaving.

Anyone with a cursory understanding of the limits on tourist visas knows that means I'm about to have one full year of boots-on-the-ground in Medellin after my next return planned for Christmas Day. But hopefully for me that won't matter because by then I should have an immigration visa and not a tourist visa.

I took my laptop and a tablet in today to the computer shop to be repaired. My voice dictation seems to be working pretty good now but I'm going to wait till I get my laptop back before I post the details about about that police sting that I got trapped in and the girl about whom believe it or not I still want to see yeah I'm crazy like that.

I completely understand why certain people would have a hard time understanding or believing what I've been through especially the more mundane minds among you. I would have a hard time believing it myself except it happening to me, I am living it, and it's been like this my entire life. I always have been living life on the edge well not exactly, I jump off the edge over the cliff, scramble back up to the top stake my claim, draw a line, and dare everybody else to cross it. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

And I'm only reporting the mountain tops. If I showed or told you what was really going on in detail of my life pretty much no one would believe me except my acquaintances and friends who have met me and there's no doubt with them about my veracity.

Also, I always say consider your source.

At my current rate I will have fucked way more regular girls in my life by dating than I have by mongering for pay-for-play. I choose this over the girls in the United States because the sex culture is so fucked up here and why spend a hundred or $200 or more on a date that you might get laid when you can go to Medellin and get automatically laid and the girls are more friendly and open. So that actually makes other guys here who don't for whatever reason have a lot of non pay-for-play experience a better source of information because I'm blending and using crossover information from when I used to date regular girls all the time and that was the only way I got sex. I still do that by the way I love the challenge and the chase but basically my lifestyle now for fucking is based on P4P because of the convenience, culture, and value.

Whenever you lock up a house for 3 months or so nothing's the way you think it's going to be when you come back. For some strange reason I have a mildew attack in my master bedroom even though I set the thermostat at 82 degrees. This is going to take some time to sterilize the area. For example that one photo is of a $1,500 custom Adidas tracksuit leather Adidas tracksuit and it was just sitting out and you can see what the mold did to it. My mattress and linens are ruined. My three vehicles all started up and turned like kittens and includes two antique sports car so that's not that has not always been the case and I'm happy about that. I keep them all on battery tenders while I'm gone and I'm a strong believer in that. All right let me go deal with some mold and I'll be back in touch when I get my computer back tomorrow or the next day. Ostee Out!

I got a message from Claro saying that if I don't register my phone, it'll be blocked. Sure, I know this. Same thing would happen on Tigo and I did get blocked before by Tigo. But before I can register with my US passport, but now neither the *611# (star 611 pound) USSD method, nor the Mi Claro app would accept my passport. Going to a Claro store and waiting for an hour didn't help either. The only documents accepted, according to the guy at Claro, are local and foreigner cedulas. Assuming no Colombiano is going to give you their cedula to use, what can you do? Sure if you leave Colombia before 30 days you won't have an issue, until you come back with the same phone.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2614576]I had an instance where a girl demanded more money from me not because of anything I did, but because she thought she could extort the money from me threatening to call the police. So I turned tha tables on her, told her I will tell the Police that she robbed me, and that I would pay her what we agreed to but not inside the room but in reception and she finally agreed.[/QUOTE]How often does this happen? I've never ran into this issue, but I don't partake in el centro chicas.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2614650]How often does this happen? I've never ran into this issue, but I don't partake in el centro chicas.[/QUOTE]This happened in Boca Chica in the DR and I've never had anything like that in Centro.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2614633]I got a message from Claro saying that if I don't register my phone, it'll be blocked. Sure, I know this. Same thing would happen on Tigo and I did get blocked before by Tigo. But before I can register with my US passport, but now neither the *611# (star 611 pound) USSD method, nor the Mi Claro app would accept my passport. Going to a Claro store and waiting for an hour didn't help either. The only documents accepted, according to the guy at Claro, are local and foreigner cedulas. Assuming no Colombiano is going to give you their cedula to use, what can you do? Sure if you leave Colombia before 30 days you won't have an issue, until you come back with the same phone.[/QUOTE]I suggest you try another Claro office, albeit this may be a new policy about who can register a phone. Another issue is that if you don't use your phone or buy data or recharge it with money you will lose the number after 60 days regardless whether it's registered or not.

A friend of mine bought a phone in Medellin and the shop registered it for him somehow and he was in Medellin for 60 days.

So you might go to a phone shop and ask for assistance, they may have some way to help you, especially if you grease the skids with some Plata.

And stay away from Tigo as a carrier, they don't seem to have many offices.

[QUOTE=Norbert61;2614390]Granted it has been a while since I have been in Colombia but yes my Canadian bank card worked in the ATMs of the larger banks and at that time there was no exchange fee. There is now. If you want to get US dollars without getting tagged for the exchange fee. You can use the Norbert gambit if you have a stock trading platform and a US dollar account. Just buy a dual traded stock on the TSX. Transfer it to your US trading account and it will be converted at todays exchange. Cash it into your US dollar account and save the 2 percent exchange fee- saves about 180 on $10 k. Really not worth doing unless you are exchanging a lot of money.[/QUOTE]LOL. Yep, I've thought of using that. Coincidence that it's called the Norbert gambit?

I am almost set up to do that. Have all the accounts set up except the US cash account within my brokerage accounts. Could set up a sweep account for my US trading account, and then transfer it out to a US dollar bank account hopefully.

Thanks for the description of this.

Thanks your for replies folks! I have a better understanding of things now.

Since it's Medellin, most of the flavor in town is paisas or a few vennies. Out of curiosity, are Asian chicas or white / eastern European / Russian chicas available anywhere in Medellin?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2614584][URL]https://www.aol.com/finance/us-travel-requirements-step-direction-163705368.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm standing my ground and give up PUSSIES!! Just kidding hahaha. I'm sure when this happen, they're going to line up to get vaccinated.

It's going to be funny when someone try to show a fake Covid card and go to jail, more chicas for me.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2614633]I got a message from Claro saying that if I don't register my phone, it'll be blocked. ... The only documents accepted, according to the guy at Claro, are local and foreigner cedulas. Assuming no Colombiano is going to give you their cedula to use, what can you do?[/QUOTE]Earlier this year I went to the Claro store in the Los Molinos mall and registered my phone with my US passport. The lady who registered it could very well have used someone's cedula, but my passport was the only ID I gave her. That office has some people who don't know how to deal with foreigners. I went there to buy a data plan and was told I have to have a Colombian cedula. After some discussion and him consulting with another person, he allowed me to enter and I bought the plan without a problem.

Perhaps not surprisingly it's relatively easy for me to post photos on my phone compared to a lot of verbiage. Here you go sorry if there's a couple of repeats in there I just aimed for the good ones.

The one photo of the girl airing out her pussy after I fucked her good at love motel in El Centro, she was probably my best new find out of the nine or so times I went to El Centro this trip, they were all good but she's a keeper.

The close up of the lips are on a face that was a six, but her body was a 9 all day, I told her I'm paying for your lips and the blowjob was as good as those lips looked, too. She could easily get me to blow a load with a condom during her BJ, if you see those lips in El Centro go for it and her prices are good and her body is awesome but don't turn your back on your stuff while she's in the room.

[QUOTE=DiegoSan4;2603422]Thanks to all the contributors in the Medellin section and World Travel 69 (I'll refer to as WT 69). I came well prepared and am now giving back.

August 27th. Friday.

Flew out of Tijuana on Aeromexico and arrived in Medellin around midnight. About 8 hours of flying time with a 2 hour layover in Mexico City. I arrived at the Nutibara hotel around 1:30 AM paying 80 k pesos for a taxi.

Nutibara is an older hotel, historic in it's day, on one end of Plaza Botero in El Centro, (the downtown area). It's fairly basic and staff did not speak English, but it is in a good location for some tourist attractions and for street girls as well as many daytime casas.

Based on reports in this forum, I had some concerns about safety before coming. By day, I would say that the El Centro area is mostly safe and swarming with large numbers of locals. Plenty of people out and about even past night fall for a few hours. Still, in and around El Centro, there are many sketchy looking streets with homeless and trash and although I never witnessed any crime, I had taxi drivers warn me of the petty crime and to keep phones and valuables hidden from sight.

August 28th. Saturday.[/QUOTE]One of the best report, thank you.

You don't have to go to a store at all. You can register on the Claro website or on the phone itself via the miclaro web site. Any nine digit passport number will work.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2614660]I suggest you try another Claro office, albeit this may be a new policy about who can register a phone. Another issue is that if you don't use your phone or buy data or recharge it with money you will lose the number after 60 days regardless whether it's registered or not.

A friend of mine bought a phone in Medellin and the shop registered it for him somehow and he was in Medellin for 60 days.

So you might go to a phone shop and ask for assistance, they may have some way to help you, especially if you grease the skids with some Plata.

And stay away from Tigo as a carrier, they don't seem to have many offices.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tasss;2614633]I got a message from Claro saying that if I don't register my phone, it'll be blocked. Sure, I know this. Same thing would happen on Tigo and I did get blocked before by Tigo. But before I can register with my US passport, but now neither the *611# (star 611 pound) USSD method, nor the Mi Claro app would accept my passport. Going to a Claro store and waiting for an hour didn't help either. The only documents accepted, according to the guy at Claro, are local and foreigner cedulas. Assuming no Colombiano is going to give you their cedula to use, what can you do? Sure if you leave Colombia before 30 days you won't have an issue, until you come back with the same phone.[/QUOTE]For slightly more than $100 you can buy a very decent smartphone at Ktronix on Poblado Avenue. Samsung A02 is like 390 mil pesos and the A01 is about 440 mil. When you checkout they will ask you for your passport. I didn't have it but knowing my passport number worked for me. They will find you in the computer system using your passport number and register the new phone to you. I prefer to keep my USA smartphone locked in my apartment safe.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2614532]"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe. " - Frederick Douglass.[/QUOTE]Ignorance prevails when certain posters won't get vaccinated.

I hit three of the bars with chicas en el centro recently, my first time back to this raw gritty bar scene in a few years. I was lured by stories of hot young Venezuluelenas. And indeed the stories are true. I found one chica quite special and even returned a few days later to session with her a second time. I checked out Conejitas, Grille Nueva, and Barra Ejecutiva each a couple times but only ever found flacas at Grille Nueva. I saw three flacas there I could have sessioned. But the prize is 20 year old Valentina with the face of a magazine cover girl. She wouldn't kiss on our first meeting but promised she would the next time so I returned. It was worth it! GFE kissing yeah! "I think she likes me" LOL.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2614710]For slightly more than $100 you can buy a very decent smartphone at Ktronix on Poblado Avenue. Samsung A02 is like 390 mil pesos and the A01 is about 440 mil. When you checkout they will ask you for your passport. I didn't have it but knowing my passport number worked for me. They will find you in the computer system using your passport number and register the new phone to you. I prefer to keep my USA smartphone locked in my apartment safe.[/QUOTE]How long do you typically stay when you visit?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2614692]Earlier this year I went to the Claro store in the Los Molinos mall and registered my phone with my US passport. The lady who registered it could very well have used someone's cedula, but my passport was the only ID I gave her. That office has some people who don't know how to deal with foreigners. I went there to buy a data plan and was told I have to have a Colombian cedula. After some discussion and him consulting with another person, he allowed me to enter and I bought the plan without a problem.[/QUOTE]I also went to Los Molinos. It might be a new policy or a bug in their system. A lot of Colombian online systems are pretty shitty, so that might be a possibility.

I also thought I'd share a negative FB experience from several days ago, but you all decide what you want to do.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100055355575758[/URL] - Maria Juanita Ramirez. Looks much worse than photos. When I first saw her in person I thought she was a trannie based on her voice. But her FB photos show her having a kid, and she had baby damage so I guess not. She's maybe close to 40. If she's younger she didn't age well at all, either due to drugs or some other reason. 2 minutes in and she's like are you done? That was my signal to end it there. Made an excuse to stop and paid her to basically leave. Her attitude makes me think she'll cause problems if she was paid less than the full amount we agreed to. She was also messy, left my apartment with a big glob of shampoo on the shower floor and pee unflushed. Sample FB profile pics attached in case she gets a new profile.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2614625]My voice dictation seems to be working pretty good now but I'm going to wait till I get my laptop back before I post the details about about that police sting that I got trapped in and the girl about whom believe it or not I still want to see yeah I'm crazy like that.[/QUOTE]If a woman says she was raped then all the other women believe her just because they are women too. Now here we have a guy saying he was set-up by a girl who brought police and we are supposed to believe him because we are guys also. Nope.

I have been with 5 girls in that group 2-3 times each in the last 3+ months. They are the best group of girls out there. Pretty close group. Never had a problem. So I told one of the girls that I heard a rumor (no website mentioned) that her friend set up a foreigner using the police. Her reactions was she had no idea what I was referring to and asked me which one of her friends.

Later that day her friend appears and I inform her of the same thing. Using a translator she said something to the effect that you were renting an apartment (AirBnB) and that she is 19 but looks young so the owners of the apartment called the police.

Based on your bravado writing style and they way you are dragging this out like a soap opera I find her simple version more believable than the long soap opera I am sure you are going to tell. Hard for her to expect a successful underage scam when she is 19 with a child. Plus, you are so good to the girls and such a lady's man that no girl would ever do this to you. Right? In addition, I can not remember ever reading about anyone else ever having the underage scam done to them on this site.

Strange how you tell people to avoid her but your pictures are nearly useless.

Why did I post? I think both sides should be heard.

Hello,

I been to many places. (Brazil, Thailand, southeast Asia, Mexico).

I will be spending an afternoon in Medellin, and wanted to ask for any advice.

I want to try 2-3 girls (but really A-class). What would be the best plan?

Go to a motel and call? I like to be in my own space.

What the average price nowadays? Thank you.

I also will go to Cartagena right after, and if you want to give tips, it would be helpful.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2614723]I hit three of the bars with chicas en el centro recently, my first time back to this raw gritty bar scene in a few years. I was lured by stories of hot young Venezuluelenas. And indeed the stories are true. I found one chica quite special and even returned a few days later to session with her a second time. I checked out Conejitas, Grille Nueva, and Barra Ejecutiva each a couple times but only ever found flacas at Grille Nueva. I saw three flacas there I could have sessioned. But the prize is 20 year old Valentina with the face of a magazine cover girl. She wouldn't kiss on our first meeting but promised she would the next time so I returned. It was worth it! GFE kissing yeah! "I think she likes me" LOL.[/QUOTE]What is the location of this grille nueva awesome place? I can't find it on google maps.

Top 5% horrible girl I ever had.

I rolled the dice and knew I had a 70-80% chance of a dud but wanted a new girl and it was getting late after a rainy day.

Behind the church on the corner is the yellow restaurant and across the street from that on the corner is the short time hotel with the prison bars. There is a light brown blondish haired girl at the bottom of the stairs. Pretty face and smile, fake boobs, age around 25, usually on her phone. She wears a fish net tube top so you can see her tits and always wears pants (because she has to). She wanted 50,000 and I walked away. After a week I tried again and she went for 40,000. We went the hotel next door. I refuse to use the prison bar hotel.

She did not smile the whole time. Wanted money up front which I knew. She demanded that she be the one to put the condom on which she did not roll on but stuck both her index and middle fingers into a square with her nails (idiot). When she took off her pants I cringed. Her lower back had some faded ugly round scars about 2 centimeters. But her ass and legs were covered in these 2-3 centimeter round scars that were darker. These are not pigment spots but scars. I almost walked out. Scary looking. Because of all of this it took me longer to cum so I promised 10,000 tip because I hate not finishing. Go to pay her and she sees the rest of the cash (less than 40,000) and she demands 20,000. I say no.

Simply horrible. If you see her and not sure if she is the one or not then just look at her lower back. So bad I had to warn you guys.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2614723]I hit three of the bars with chicas en el centro recently, I checked out Conejitas, Grille Nueva, and Barra Ejecutiva L.[/QUOTE]I like those places too. They make life simple. Only problem is that the rooms they use are truly awful. Sometimes I find it too much of a turn off. Sometimes. Did you find any of them to have better rooms?

I just posted about this chica with a six face who had a 9 body, all day long. I don't actually believe in assigning numbers but it gets us in the ballpark and I think a few mongers might even agree with me this is a 9 body.

Her sister is a super cute tranny in El Centro. Mini-pearl, trannies always have the best Intel and I'm friends with a few of them down there in El Centro. When I chat them up they always point me in the right direction like the one who told me about her sister who gave great blowjobs, the same girl in these fotos. They also know where the dangers are.

I was with this girl a few times. Our last session the day before I left when I told her that I was leaving the country she got fidgety for a minute and then suddenly lunged at me and gave me a full-body hug with her arms and legs, and told me she really liked me and she would miss me. Why do I bother to mention it? You can say she was going to miss my wallet but I was paying her fair market value and she's got no trouble finding dates.

I treat all the girls the same whether an El Centro putas or a doctor, with fun and respect. That doesn't mean I trust them all the same and I already told you the girl in these photos I would not turn my back on her in my room for one second. She tried to rip me off one time but I caught her and we laughed and she still a good fuck. I tend to trust people may be a little too much until they prove me otherwise but if you treat these girls with respect you get back a lot of affection and improved performance. Wet mudhole fuckers need not apply, and they are not interested anyway so everyone's happy.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2614736]I also went to Los Molinos. It might be a new policy or a bug in their system. A lot of Colombian online systems are pretty shitty, so that might be a possibility.

I also thought I'd share a negative FB experience from several days ago, but you all decide what you want to do.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100055355575758[/URL] - Maria Juanita Ramirez. Looks much worse than photos. When I first saw her in person I thought she was a trannie based on her voice. But her FB photos show her having a kid, and she had baby damage so I guess not. She's maybe close to 40. If she's younger she didn't age well at all, either due to drugs or some other reason. 2 minutes in and she's like are you done? That was my signal to end it there. Made an excuse to stop and paid her to basically leave. Her attitude makes me think she'll cause problems if she was paid less than the full amount we agreed to. She was also messy, left my apartment with a big glob of shampoo on the shower floor and pee unflushed. Sample FB profile pics attached in case she gets a new profile.[/QUOTE]Haha I can kinda see why you thought she could've been a tranny LOL. I hate the ones that rushes, that's the downside of using FB, if you met her in parque Lleras, you can kinda feel out vibes.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2614704]You don't have to go to a store at all. You can register on the Claro website or on the phone itself via the miclaro web site. Any nine digit passport number will work.[/QUOTE]Interesting as the original poster tried this but was not successful doing it. This is good information.

Thank you for sharing valuable info. I wish more posts were like yours. Informative.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2614736]I also went to Los Molinos. It might be a new policy or a bug in their system. A lot of Colombian online systems are pretty shitty, so that might be a possibility.

I also thought I'd share a negative FB experience from several days ago, but you all decide what you want to do.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100055355575758[/URL] - Maria Juanita Ramirez. Looks much worse than photos. When I first saw her in person I thought she was a trannie based on her voice. But her FB photos show her having a kid, and she had baby damage so I guess not. She's maybe close to 40. If she's younger she didn't age well at all, either due to drugs or some other reason. 2 minutes in and she's like are you done? That was my signal to end it there. Made an excuse to stop and paid her to basically leave. Her attitude makes me think she'll cause problems if she was paid less than the full amount we agreed to. She was also messy, left my apartment with a big glob of shampoo on the shower floor and pee unflushed. Sample FB profile pics attached in case she gets a new profile.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Enigma13;2614683]Thanks your for replies folks! I have a better understanding of things now.

Since it's Medellin, most of the flavor in town is paisas or a few vennies. Out of curiosity, are Asian chicas or white / eastern European / Russian chicas available anywhere in Medellin?[/QUOTE]If they are I've never heard of them or seen any sign of them. Not sure there's much of a profit incentive to take a 24 hour flight in order to sell your pussy in one of the lowest priced markets.

[QUOTE=Iponux;2614815]What is the location of this grille nueva awesome place? I can't find it on google maps.[/QUOTE]It's just a few doors east of Conejitas.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2614841]Top 5% horrible girl I ever had.

I rolled the dice and knew I had a 70-80% chance of a dud but wanted a new girl and it was getting late after a rainy day.

Behind the church on the corner is the yellow restaurant and across the street from that on the corner is the short time hotel with the prison bars. There is a light brown blondish haired girl at the bottom of the stairs. Pretty face and smile, fake boobs, age around 25, usually on her phone. She wears a fish net tube top so you can see her tits and always wears pants (because she has to). She wanted 50,000 and I walked away. After a week I tried again and she went for 40,000. We went the hotel next door. I refuse to use the prison bar hotel.

She did not smile the whole time. Wanted money up front which I knew. She demanded that she be the one to put the condom on which she did not roll on but stuck both her index and middle fingers into a square with her nails (idiot)..[/QUOTE]I've had a few instances where I've unwrapped the package and cringed. And in those rare occasions I immediately terminate the session and pay what I agreed to and nothing less and just say I'm not feeling well and thank you very much. And sounds like when other guys have witnessed what you described they don't want to pay up, hence she demands the money upfront.

I know you have experience in Centro, but I always tell the new ones, that I pay afterwards before going upstairs with them. This is probably the biggest sign of a bad session in the works when you take a new Chica upstairs who demands to be paid upfront.

And your not alone in this, many years ago when in the Santa Fe area of Bogota I went with a Chica who demanded the money upfront. And I paid, and everything was cool until I changed positions and my condom was covered with blood. And I asked what's up with this, and she said oh it's normal to work when she's menstruating. Not much I could do, so I terminated the session and walked out, as I wasn't going to try to nut in a red tide although I was covered up.

Moral of the story, never ever pay upfront.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2614878]Thank you for sharing valuable info. I wish more posts were like yours. Informative.[/QUOTE]Ty and yours too.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2614862]Haha I can kinda see why you thought she could've been a tranny LOL. I hate the ones that rushes, that's the downside of using FB, if you met her in parque Lleras, you can kinda feel out vibes.[/QUOTE]She was very friendly on Messenger, but things can change in the bedroom. You can never really tell. I've also had the opposite happen where the girl is hesitant or pretty quiet on the street or on Messenger and turns out to be a nympho in bed:

[QUOTE=Tasss;2614736][URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100055355575758[/URL] - Maria Juanita Ramirez. Looks much worse than photos. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the head up, she does look good in the FB photos.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2614737]If a woman says she was raped then all the other women believe her just because they are women too. Now here we have a guy saying he was set-up by a girl who brought police and we are supposed to believe him because we are guys also. Nope.

I have been with 5 girls in that group 2-3 times each in the last 3+ months. They are the best group of girls out there. Pretty close group. Never had a problem. So I told one of the girls that I heard a rumor (no website mentioned) that her friend set up a foreigner using the police. Her reactions was she had no idea what I was referring to and asked me which one of her friends.

Later that day her friend appears and I inform her of the same thing. Using a translator she said something to the effect that you were renting an apartment (AirBnB) and that she is 19 but looks young so the owners of the apartment called the police.

Based on your bravado writing style and they way you are dragging this out like a soap opera I find her simple version more believable than the long soap opera I am sure you are going to tell. Hard for her to expect a successful underage scam when she is 19 with a child. Plus, you are so good to the girls and such a lady's man that no girl would ever do this to you. Right? In addition, I can not remember ever reading about anyone else ever having the underage scam done to them on this site.

Strange how you tell people to avoid her but your pictures are nearly useless.

Why did I post? I think both sides should be heard.[/QUOTE]I was confused at Osteo's story about this. I think your version seem more plausible.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2614737]If a woman says she was raped then all the other women believe her just because they are women too. Now here we have a guy saying he was set-up by a girl who brought police and we are supposed to believe him because we are guys also. Nope.

I have been with 5 girls in that group 2-3 times each in the last 3+ months. They are the best group of girls out there. Pretty close group. Never had a problem. So I told one of the girls that I heard a rumor (no website mentioned) that her friend set up a foreigner using the police. Her reactions was she had no idea what I was referring to and asked me which one of her friends.

Later that day her friend appears and I inform her of the same thing. Using a translator she said something to the effect that you were renting an apartment (AirBnB) and that she is 19 but looks young so the owners of the apartment called the police..[/QUOTE]One time I read on here that we guys should always stick together. The quote was something like "Bros before Hos". I thought that was a manifestly stupid approach and I still do.

But my friend, you choose to believe a streetwalker instead of a member of this board who has nothing to lose be reporting his incident. In fact, it was a great gesture on his part because he admits it makes him look a little foolish.

Well let me weigh in. I've met Ostee. One afternoon he told me he was going to El Centro and I went with him. We did a circuit around the church and we saw the two girls standing next to a Botero statue beckoning us to come over. The cuter little one definitely did not look 18. We both talked to her for a minute but there wasn't any way we were going with her. She claimed to have a cedula. Whatever, we walked away. Later the next day Ostee told me he had been with a different Vene and they went to see this girl and the Vene told Ostee that her ID was 100% legit. Ostee later reported he took her to a room and they had a great romp.

So, one evening Ostee messages me that he needs to talk to someone. He was white as a sheet and very agitated when he came to my room. He told me the story of what happened. It was shocking. My best take was that this little girl was either a girlfriend of the lead cop or a relative or connected somehow. Otherwise how would the cops know where he was staying?

The girl's story you heard was clearly wrong. He was staying in a very high-end hotel not an Air BnB. I know this because I was staying in the same hotel. The reception didn't call the cops that isn't remotely possible. The reception at the hotel takes the girl's cedula and enters it into their system for verification. They check the picture against the girl. If they had doubts they simply wouldn't let her in. It's happened before. Not to me. But to other visitors I've talked to. So, while you may find the story implausible I know his story is truthful and your report of the girl's statements is riddled with errors and lies. Oh there was some truth to what she said. I understand she was 19 with a child. She also had a fake cedula (meaning it was real and legit, it just wasn't hers).

By the way. I wouldn't take that girl outside of El Centro if I were you, I'm sure that is how the extorting cops knew where to find him. Second, I'm not sure I would disbelieve a board member (who goes out of his way to post stories and pictures which benefits everyone) based on the word of a streetwalker.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2614737]If a woman says she was raped then all the other women believe her just because they are women too. Now here we have a guy saying he was set-up by a girl who brought police and we are supposed to believe him because we are guys also. Nope. [/QUOTE]There are a couple of important points in this paragraph.

First, the bias isn't gender limited. If a woman doesn't like the woman who says she was raped, she's unlikely to believe her. Or if a woman likes the accused rapist she's likely to believe him. The same holds true for men hearing the story. Their personal feelings about those involved are a bigger factor than gender alignment.

The second important point is where you mention belief. Belief gets in the way of the facts. Rather than believing one version or the other, there's some useful things to be learned from the experience, however it happened.

1. In the picture of the girl, she looks too young to me. In either version of the events, that's the critical detail. If she looks too young, the potential for problems increases. Without some dependable other method to verify age, my opinion is that it's better to walk away.

2. It's a good idea to minimize your liability. If you do drugs keep the minimum necessary on hand. Getting caught with a few grams is much easier to talk your way out of than getting caught with a large quantity. This also applies to money. Your money is safer in the bank until you need it. If the police get involved and expect a contribution to uninvolve themselves, the amount is going to depend on how much you have on hand.

3. Keep a low profile. The longer you plan to stay, the more important this becomes. If you fly in for the weekend, you can be a rockstar in Parque Lleras. If you're staying for a month, pretty soon someone will put a target on you if you're making it rain every night.

4. Don't fall in love. 99.99% of the chicas who fall in love with a gringo, are in love with the lifestyle and the money. If you want to fall in love with a girl in a third world country, then put all your money in a trust that only allows you a lower middle class income in that country. Live on a budget, live at the level of the people around you. When your disposable income is 80 k per day or less, all the girls who love you are suddenly going to find someone else to love.

[QUOTE]I have been with 5 girls in that group 2-3 times each in the last 3+ months. They are the best group of girls out there. Pretty close group. Never had a problem. So I told one of the girls that I heard a rumor (no website mentioned) that her friend set up a foreigner using the police. Her reactions was she had no idea what I was referring to and asked me which one of her friends.

Later that day her friend appears and I inform her of the same thing. Using a translator she said something to the effect that you were renting an apartment (AirBnB) and that she is 19 but looks young so the owners of the apartment called the police..[/QUOTE]I've heard of the underage scam, but I'm uncertain if it was in Medellin. It certainly is a possibility, which is why it's better to walk away than take a chance on any who look too young.

Just a word in Osteo's defense. It's easy to jump to conclusions if you get caught in a bad situation. You make a few assumptions and try to make sense of things and that solidifies into your version of the story.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2614736]When I first saw her in person I thought she was a trannie based on her voice. But her FB photos show her having a kid,[/QUOTE]I am a guy and I have a kid. I have several gay friends that have kids. I also have pictures with my nephews and other people's kids that are not my kids. I have a picture with my daughter and grandkids on facebook and chicks think it is my wife and kids. Having pictures with a kid says nothing except there is a picture with a kid.

A guy recently posted pics of a girl in Medellin that he has been involved with for like 3 years. On the facebook it shows the girl with a kid. To everybody's eyes except his, this girl is obviously a guy.

When I clicked on your girl's facebook I see she is friends with a few hardcore monger members in the same group. I am sure they would not add a dude and in the facebook pics she looks nothing at all like a dude.

For those of you who follow me and pay attention this was the exact same girl I warned about at the horse statue in a prior post. Trust me, that irony is not lost on me. And she is also the same chica who I had my Spanish teacher confirm that she had an authentic cedula that showed her to be 19 years old. I took her to my hotel room on Avenue 70 after we had a few sessions in Love Motels in El Centro.

A police sting team came by and substituted the ID she left behind the hotel desk with a fake one that showed her to be under age and then came into my room with her, crying, both ID's, guns drawn, 4 guys.

They spent about a half an hour putting the fear of God in my heart about how much trouble I was in how I would need a lawyer how I would be leaving the hotel in handcuffs, etc. Etc. They let the girl go early in the ordeal or she left with a cop I don't remember. Their main focus seem to be that I was with the girl in my room and they kept referring to the photos in my telephone as infantile porn.

I also have been back in touch with the girl who says she was not part of it but they let her go the same night. She says because when they looked her up in the computer and it did show she was in fact 19, which of course makes no sense with the rest of the story.

I went to El Centro the next day and in fact every day until the time I left and she was there working as per usual. I did not talk to her.

As recently as yesterday I asked the investigator if I could see her again if that would cause trouble and this was his exact response, "Si no hice nada con usted, con ella tampoco puedo hacer nada."

There is a lot more to it but I'm not going to write any more about it because people are going to think what they want to think my only motivation was in warning you guys so be careful out there I don't need to subject myself to the be that goes on here when I'm just trying to help out and I'm not going to apologize for being the best writer on ISG, jajaja. Ostee Out. In the interest of length I'm going to stop now. *I may write more about it, maybe maybe not. I'm not going to respond to any specific other posts about this, what you see is what you get and people can believe what they want to believe.

The whole sordid Affair was not fun to go through at the time but believe it or not at. I'm starting to feel like there's going to be some good that comes out of it. One thing my guy keeps stressing that I don't have any worries when it comes to police matters in the future, so as Bill Murray would say in Caddyshack, at least I got that going for me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2614942]I am a guy and I have a kid. I have several gay friends that have kids. I also have pictures with my nephews and other people's kids that are not my kids. I have a picture with my daughter and grandkids on facebook and chicks think it is my wife and kids. Having pictures with a kid says nothing except there is a picture with a kid.

A guy recently posted pics of a girl in Medellin that he has been involved with for like 3 years. On the facebook it shows the girl with a kid. To everybody's eyes except his, this girl is obviously a guy.

When I clicked on your girl's facebook I see she is friends with a few hardcore monger members in the same group. I am sure they would not add a dude and in the facebook pics she looks nothing at all like a dude.[/QUOTE]The real question is: was it beyond / impossible pussy or real pussy.

[URL]https://youtu.be/tZJBM0pNjCs[/URL]

I have to disagree on your point here. There are lots of guys that have hundreds of girls on their Facebook friends list. Sort of like collecting Pokémon . Cards. Got to catch them all!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2614942]

When I clicked on your girl's facebook I see she is friends with a few hardcore monger members in the same group. I am sure they would not add a dude and in the facebook pics she looks nothing at all like a dude.[/QUOTE].

I said I wasn't going to write any more about it but for some reason the meat of the post in the middle didn't show up in the other post so here it is, more detail and some of the nuts and bolts of what actually went on. Sorry about the repetition in the post if I try to fix it it fucks up the whole post up I can't do any better:

They found my Tussy and threw it on the middle of my bed.

They took my phone and kept looking at pictures I had in there and saying that a bunch of the girls were underage but none of them were.

I was in my underwear and I was able to sweep my pants over the Tussy when getting dressed and grab it with my hand at the same time and put it in the pocket all in one motion without them noticing and they just assumed one of the other cops took it as they were pilfering some of my stuff anyway. * I then went straight to the bathroom and flushed it.

One by one the cops all left the room until it was just one guy and me and when the Moment of Truth came for me to leave he asked me did I want to get out of it?

We spent about another half hour trying to work out the details with him calling a supervisor to get the okay for the deal. * he wanted to take my debit card and have me give him my password but I wouldn't do it, but he wouldn't let me leave on my own even though he had my passport and my phone.

He asked me how much would I pay and I said three million but he told me that wasn't enough. Then I started to sense that I had a little negotiating power because he seems a little bit nervous about getting caught.

I told him the maximum amount I could get out of an ATM was 2 million pesos at one time, even though I had gotten as much as four million in two withdrawals at the same time from Davienda, which is where we were going.

The plan he came up with was that I was going to go to the ATM, he would follow me, after my withdrawal he would walk up to me like we were friends in the street walk to a corner Park and then I was going to hand them over the money which is exactly what we did. When I handed over the money he returned my phone and passport to me.

Now here's where it started to get surreal. He started telling me that he liked me and that he wanted to be my friend. He said that I needed to pay more money the next day but that I only had to pay "from my heart" as a gift.

There's a lot more that went into it but I will cut to the quick and say the next morning I met him, he took me for a drive in his car and I gave him 1 million more.

He then proceeded to show me a bunch of photos of his family including his wife, mother, children and parents, I kid you not. * Then he took two selfies of he and I and asked me for my WhatsApp number which I gave him. * *We have been in touch briefly every day even though I'm back in the United States. He calls me his friend and tells me I now have police protection. * he told me if I ever get in trouble in the future I am to call him.

I also have been back in touch with the girl who says she was not part of it but they let her go the same night. * She says because when they looked her up in the computer it did show she was in fact 19.

Now here's where it started to get surreal. He started telling me that he liked me and that he wanted to be my friend. He said that I needed to pay more money the next day but that I only had to pay "from my heart" as a gift.

There's a lot more that went into it but I will cut to the quick and say the next morning I met him, he took me for a drive in his car and I gave him 1 million more.

He then proceeded to show me a bunch of photos of his family including his wife, mother, children and parents, I kid you not. Then he took two selfies of he and I and asked me for my WhatsApp number which I gave him. We have been in touch briefly every day even though I'm back in the United States. He calls me his friend and tells me I now have police protection. * he told me if I ever get in trouble in the future I am to call him.

I also have been back in touch with the girl who says she was not part of it but they let her go the same night. She says because when they looked her up in the computer it did show she was in fact 19.

Two days after the incident I was outside and I heard someone whistling me down and it was the investigator and he came over and started making small* talk with me like he was a good friend. * Then he proceeded to describe seeing me the day before and in detail the girl I was with as we were walking to dinner. * That gave me an uneasy feeling to say the least.

Thinking back I think the guy really does Jen really want to keep me as a contact in case he can get more money from me and believe it or not he likes having a gringo as a friend. I don't think he's planning on extorting me ever again but if I ever need him officially for help of course is going to cost me. And I do not mind that arrangement one bit.

And if this helps anyone else connected dots better than me he's not from Eddie and he's based in Bogota and he says he's part of a child pornography task force.

And I would like to thank Villainy for the moral support he gave me through a very difficult time.

And yes I probably would have beat the whole thing in court but that would have meant staying in Medellin for months past my Visa expiration, getting a lawyer, pay living expenses and the Policia knew this and that I was going to take the path of least resistance, pay my "fine" lick my wounds and move on.

And this last part will sound insane because I'm giving advice about this but it's something I've said before in the past. If you ever stuck in a legal situation in another country it doesn't matter where and you have the opportunity to get out short and quick always take that opportunity, do not ever prolong it, don't try to stand up for what is right it's misguided, you always end up paying more in the end.

Fortunately for me the money was trivial and believe it or not I think I've gained a valuable contact that may be worth it, although the way I got there could have been a little smoother, jajaja. Ostee Out and never give up, you have to Keep On Keepin On.

I had heard and read before this trip that an influx of newbies was responsible in large part for the deterioration of the Medellin scene, but it was not until last week that I saw it with my own eyes. I always travel solo and usually steer clear of other gringos (except when I stayed at the Mansion as a newbie, when the camaraderie was extremely helpful and supportive). My latest choice of lodging. Provenza Lofts. Exposed me to other gringos more than usual.

One of a group of three guys staying there saw the girls that I was having over when I came out to pay the hoes' taxis; he was on the front porch smoking a lot. Apparently they thought that my lineup was unbelievably smoking hot. They seemed to think that I was some sort of James Bond of mongering.

I explained to them that I thought that my lineup for this trip was actually sub-par by Medellin standards, or at least compared to my previous trips. They asked where I was finding girls, as they seemed to think that Parque Lleras, Gusto, and Tinder were the best places to look (facepalm). I warned them to avoid Lleras and Tinder girls for security reasons and to avoid Gusto for price reasons. They were vaguely aware of Facebook as a source of hoes and had no knowledge of typical / historical pricing there.

I ran into them again when I was catching my Uber to La Isla on my last Saturday night. They were aware of Fase II, but I explained to them that La Isla had the best talent in town. Lo and behold, they showed up at La Isla hours later.

You may have heard stories or seen videos of guys at La Isla "making it rain" in recent months. Apparently the La Isla staff encourages this practice by distributing stacks of 2 k bills to groups of guys spending large amounts of money. (But the bartenders give me dirty looks if I ask for small bills as change when I buy my Coke Zero and Gatorade). These guys were about to "make it rain" 2 k bills when I advised them against it, explaining its harmful effect on the market and girls' attitudes, expectations, and work ethic (if there even is such a thing among paisa hoes any more). I suggested instead that they use the 2 k bills more conservatively to fulfill the requests for tips by the girls circulating after their stage performances. Sticking bills into their g-strings or whatever they have on provides an opportunity to inspect the merchandise and "kick the tires," so to speak, by grabbing their asses and so on. I use this as an opportunity to scope out candidates for back room sessions.

Unfortunately there was another group of Middle Eastern-looking guys who decided to "make it rain" - and not in COP, but in USD (facepalm). This USD rain lasted an unusually long period of time, as they stretched it out in dribs and drabs, and it consumed the attention of about half of the girls in the club at the time. I had only had two sessions at the club by that point in the night and was still looking for a third, but I could not get it because the USD rain distracted so many of the girls, including a few of my candidates. The irony is that the girls probably could have made more money if they had tried to work for back room sessions with or at least get girlie drinks out of other guys, instead of chasing the small bills that these clowns were throwing around. And, as far as I could tell, these Middle Eastern-looking guys did not even try to fuck any of the girls.

Suffice is to say that my next Colombia trip will be to Bogota or Cali.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2614989]Ostee Out and never give up, you have to Keep On Keepin On.[/QUOTE]Yeah great snappy saying, Lol.

You should probably Keep on staying out of Colombia for a bit.

You think you've made a new friend, maybe you have, or maybe you're being watched.

You're the opposite of keeping a low profile, which to me is a better tactic.

Anyway, to each their own.

Good luck, you seem like a good guy at heart.

It's Official: Medellin is the New Costa Rica.

This early October trip to Medellin was my sixth visit to that city, and it might be my last one for a while. The unfavorable changes to the Medellin Facebook scene in the past year, including price inflation, a high rate of cita flakery, and a decrease in certain aspects of the quality of service, have made it a less attractive and competitive destination. I tried a new approach after similar results on my last trip in July and decided to give Medellin a second chance, but it only succeeded in partially mitigating this deteriorating situation. I did have several good citas, but Bogota and Cali now look more attractive as relatively unspoiled alternatives to a scene that is increasingly reminding me of Costa Rica or Sosua. At this point, the only remaining advantages of the Medellin Facebook scene for me are the sheer numbers of girls and the greater availability of BBBJ and even BBFS, which are nonetheless strong selling points.

One change in my strategy was to stay in a better apartment. I used to stay in a relatively cheap and basic Poblado Rentals building. I decided to stay in the more upscale Provenza Lofts this time. The girls who had seen my previous apartment agreed unanimously that this unit was much nicer. The higher-quality lodging nonetheless had no discernible impact on either the quality of service that I received or the amount of time that they stayed after my leche. Indeed, I had better experiences at the cheaper and more modest place where I stayed before. Although I do hope to try the even more upscale Energy building in the future, I am not convinced that spending more money on a better place is a good investment. The only mongering advantage of Provenza Lofts (which is nonetheless a fine property and still good value for the money in purely real estate terms) was the 24/7 reception, which I wanted particularly for the overnight citas that I planned to do. I had also looked into staying in Laureles, in the hopes of reducing the girls' travel times and possibly their flake rates, but the San Peter building that seems to be the default choice there does not have jacuzzis.

I also revised my "anti-flake" strategies in response to the skyrocketing rate of Facebook cita flakery, but I still got similar results. I had been double-booking for cita time slots in the past, but even that often failed when both girls flaked on me. I tried triple-booking this time, but I only got similar or slightly better results. Not enough to put a serious dent in the problem.

Price inflation has been identified as a key driver of these increasing levels of flakery. In other words, girls will flake on one's cita if they get better offers from another guy. I found in practice that higher offers had no impact on the rate at which girls kept their appointments. Indeed, I found that the girls who accepted lower offers at or around historic prices were actually more likely to keep their appointments than those that pushed for inflationary prices. That may have been because those girls sticking to the historic price range were probably less desirable or in demand and thus had more motivation to keep whatever appointments they got.

If price inflation and high demand are causing this high rate of flakery, perhaps my slightly higher offers (50 k more than pre-COVID norms, but only if I felt that I could justify it in terms of price or service) were not high enough. I received many outrageous price quotes as high as 500 k COP and even 300 USD for short-time sessions. When girls start quoting prices in USD, it is time to go somewhere else. At such prices, I would be better off in Brazil, with equally good or better talent and much higher standards of service. Brazil's PCR test requirement deterred me from going there in the past year or so, but I see now that they accept antigen tests, which pose fewer complications.

Another change in my strategy was to do more repeats with girls that I have already seen before. Although all but one of my repeats actually showed up and delivered satisfying service, the results were not as good as they had been in the past, with a few notable exceptions. Indeed, one of my repeats, who had delivered two high-quality sessions in the past (one of which was as recent as July), was one of my biggest and most surprising disappointments. Her character seemed to have changed dramatically in the less than three months since I had last seen her, which highlighted to me the rapidity with which the Medellin Facebook scene is deteriorating. Many girls who stayed with me at length for post-leche GFE in the past seemed to have shifted to a "hit-it-and-quit-it" style of service, presumably in order to move on to another cita after mine. I was hoping for at least a modicum of loyalty for a repeat customer, but in some cases my faith was misplaced. I also do not want to rely too heavily on repeats just in order to get girls to show up. If I wanted the same pussy all the time, I would just get married. The only thing better than pussy is new pussy. That's one of the main reasons for mongering.

Over tourism, with an influx of newbie mongers, is clearly one of the main sources of this problem, but it is clearly having impacts on Medellin beyond mongering in general. For example, the guys selling soccer jerseys and other random stuff were more aggressive than they were even just a few months ago in July. They seemed to be offended that I did not want to buy their stuff, as if they were somehow entitled to a sale. Even the guys selling soda from carts in Centro asked for tips for selling me soda during my street meat runs and seemed offended when I disregarded their requests. This does not sound like the Medellin that I came to know and love; it is now more like over touristed places, such as Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic.

Medellin certainly does have alternatives to Facebook, such as casas, strip clubs, and Centro street meat. The quality of the talent and / or service is nonetheless also highly variable, and the pervasive CBJ culture is often a showstopper for me. Centro street meat runs are also sensitive to weather, as I learned the hard way that unusually rainy week. La Isla remains my go-to nighttime backup, but even that is suffering from newbie clowns "making it rain," even in USD (see my other post). More importantly, going to these in-person venues defeats the purpose of going to a city whose most remarkable mongering market is (or at least used to be) on the Internet. If I wanted to monger at in-person venues like these, I would be better off in Bogota or Cali, with lower prices, minimal gringo contamination, no Internet flakery, and more tits & ass.

I had originally planned to go to Bogota after the disappointment of my last trip. I decided to give Medellin a second chance because of reports of a slow market in Bogotá's Santa Fe red light district and with a new approach to Medellin Facebook, which clearly did not have much impact. It looks now like Santa Fe may be a bit livelier, and even Cali seems to be recovering from the worst of the riots this spring. My first visit to Cali last year was interrupted when all hell broke loose in March 2020 and I had to abort. I would like to give Cali another shot if it is returning to some semblance of normalcy.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2614935]There are a couple of important points in this paragraph.

there's some useful things to be learned from the experience, however it happened.[/QUOTE]I like the points you've made here and I'll just add: never take the girls out of their element into yours. They followed the trail to our guys hotel because that's where his passport and debit cards could be taken and used as leverage. If you only have the cash on you and you keep your mongering activities in Centro, it's harder for them to identify you or extort you. The flipside of this is that they could always hold you until you agree to lead them to your room where these things could be found- but that's much more difficult for them and it's likely they would agree to a small and immediate cash payoff especially if their case is flimsy.

I was held by some police in Brazil and once they realized my girl was of age and didn't have any convictions or unpaid fines they just let me go. It's a pretty nerve wracking experience that you don't forget. As many have said, even for girls with a cedula-if she looks younger than 18, don't even bother. Most women don't get really good at sex until their 20's anyways.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2614989]I said I wasn't going to write any more about it but for some reason the meat of the post in the middle didn't show up in the other post so here it is, more detail and some of the nuts and bolts of what actually went on. ... And if this helps anyone else connected dots better than me he's not from Eddie and he's based in Bogota and he says he's part of a child pornography task force. ...[/QUOTE]Assuming everything Osteoknot wrote really happened, I don't think he was dealing with the real police. The "investigator" probably wasn't wearing a police uniform. How about the other three, uniforms? The fact that the "investigator" was in the area where Osteoknot was staying for the next two days lends more credence to it being a scam. I know for a fact there are civilians, claiming to be policemen, looking for gringos to shake down. I had two encounters with them. I didn't go along with their scheme, but neither had a gun. When Osteoknot returns to Medellin, I wish he would go to the police station and ask if they know the "investigator".

As for Villainy's statement "The reception didn't call the cops that isn't remotely possible. " How does he know that? Does he think there are no hotel employees who work with scammers?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2614989]I said I wasn't going to write any more about it but for some reason the meat of the post in the middle didn't show up in the other post so here it is, more detail and some of the nuts and bolts of what actually went on. Sorry about the repetition in the post if I try to fix it it fucks up the whole post up I can't do any better:

They found my Tussy and threw it on the middle of my bed.

They took my phone and kept looking at pictures I had in there and saying that a bunch of the girls were underage but none of them were.

I was in my underwear and I was able to sweep my pants over the Tussy when getting dressed and grab it with my hand at the same time and put it in the pocket all in one motion without them noticing and they just assumed one of the other cops took it as they were pilfering some of my stuff anyway. * I then went straight to the bathroom and flushed it.

One by one the cops all left the room until it was just one guy and me and when the Moment of Truth came for me to leave he asked me did I want to get out of it?

We spent about another half hour trying to work out the details with him calling a supervisor to get the okay for the deal. * he wanted to take my debit card and have me give him my password but I wouldn't do it, but he wouldn't let me leave on my own even though he had my passport and my phone...[/QUOTE]I am by no means a Colombian expert, but I come from a worse 3rd world country where prostitution isn't legal.

Shake downs like this are common, often most by cops in vice, as security and police are often not required to show badges and the oversight is non existent, it is hard to identify non cops.

Usually the bait is either a GF of or partner in the scam, and usually its a turf thing, scammers from another area wouldn't dare enter some else's turf.

I am glad that you are safe and got out with minimal losses.

What is your advice to avoid such a scam in Colombia?

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2614735]How long do you typically stay when you visit?[/QUOTE]I spend enough time in Medellin that it makes sense to have a cell phone and Gmail just for Medellin. My only long trip is Jan thru March.

[QUOTE=Iponux;2614815]What is the location of this grille nueva awesome place? I can't find it on google maps.[/QUOTE]Grille Nueva is NOT an "awesome place". It's an almost skanky underground bar across the street on the north side of Botero Plaza. The vast majority of the chicas working here are disgustingly thick for my taste. I heard that recently some new arrivals from Venezuela started working in these seedy el centro bars and sure enough I found one diamond in the rough at Grille Nueva.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2614858]I like those places too. They make life simple. Only problem is that the rooms they use are truly awful. Sometimes I find it too much of a turn off. Sometimes. Did you find any of them to have better rooms?[/QUOTE]True story I needed to duck down to about 42 inches into the passageway leading to the rooms. What I didn't remember is after going thru the first cutout in the wall there is a small cavity and then a second 42 inch cutout in a second wall. I raised my head between the two and banged on my forehead on the second one. Damn hard too and I had a big lump on my forehead. Valentina couldn't stop touching it and giggling about it. It made the session memorable for both of us and created a weird sort of bond between us. When I saw her the second time she immediately touched my forehead to see how it was. My impression of the room itself is that it was pretty decent with clean sheets considering this entire encounter cost less than $20 for 30 minutes. I wasn't expecting anything more than a horizonal surface to do the deed. There is a cold water shower attached no extra charge jajjaja.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2615034]Assuming everything Osteoknot wrote really happened[/QUOTE]It matters not what you assume, as ultimately he's the center of attention and that's the goal.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2614704]You don't have to go to a store at all. You can register on the Claro website or on the phone itself via the miclaro web site. Any nine digit passport number will work.[/QUOTE]I mentioned in the original post, I tried the *611# method and the Mi Claro app. Neither works. 611 just comes back with a text message saying there's a problem blah blah blah. Mi Claro doesn't even let me create an account unless I have a home phone number (that's different from the prepaid cell number).

I had a chica try her cedula today using the *611# method. I didn't know exactly all the menus she was going through. I started her on the menu where you can pick what document you want to use. After going through all the prompts she couldn't get it to register. Funny thing is one of the "you will be blocked" messages I get from Claro says to hit *611# Option 7-1-1 to register. But there is no option 7.

Also tried a random 9 digit number in case something's wrong with my passport. No luck there as well.

[URL]https://www.claro.com.co/personas/servicios/servicios-moviles/adicionales/beneficios/registra-imei/[/URL] under the prepaid lines tab. These instructions don't work either. *233# doesn't give me a menu where I can select option 2 as instructed.

That's the state of Colombian computer systems. Ugh.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2615034]Assuming everything Osteoknot wrote really happened, I don't think he was dealing with the real police. The "investigator" probably wasn't wearing a police uniform. How about the other three, uniforms? The fact that the "investigator" was in the area where Osteoknot was staying for the next two days lends more credence to it being a scam. I know for a fact there are civilians, claiming to be policemen, looking for gringos to shake down. I had two encounters with them. I didn't go along with their scheme, but neither had a gun. When Osteoknot returns to Medellin, I wish he would go to the police station and ask if they know the "investigator".

As for Villainy's statement "The reception didn't call the cops that isn't remotely possible. " How does he know that? Does he think there are no hotel employees who work with scammers?[/QUOTE]I read the posts, I look at the photo's.

Very much is real, very believable, yet some things don't make sense, maybe true, maybe not, almost like a hybrid of fiction and reality, the hallmarks of good fiction, or maybe not. LOL.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2614989]They took my phone and kept looking at pictures I had in there and saying that a bunch of the girls were underage but none of them were.

One by one the cops all left the room until it was just one guy and me and when the Moment of Truth came for me to leave he asked me did I want to get out of it?

He asked me how much would I pay and I said three million but he told me that wasn't enough. Then I started to sense that I had a little negotiating power because he seems a little bit nervous about getting caught.

And if this helps anyone else connected dots better than me he's not from Eddie and he's based in Bogota and he says he's part of a child pornography task force.[/QUOTE]Sorry you went through this man. Thanks for putting yourself out there and admitting to all of us that you got trapped in a extortion scam due to your carelessness and complacency. Most guys wouldn't put themselves out there like this because of the backlash.

We can only tempt fate so many times before getting caught. And honestly this should be a warning for all of us to be more diligent and cautious in medallo.

Based on what everyone talks and posts about on here. You all need to be more selective. Interview interview interview. Only if you vibe with the Chica should you take her back for a spin. If there's no chemistry DO NOT take her back. Spending a few nights without a Chica won't kill you. And watch her like a hawk! Only after 2-3 times when trusts is established do you let your guard down with that Chica. This ain't Europe or the US. It's Colombia the jungle baby!

Or casas or strip clubs are options. Me like others I like to hunt. I've actually never been to a casa or strip club I'm Colombia. But I definitely keep low key and don't lease around central. All you "seasoned mongers" can have el centro. My pussy ass will stay with what I know and where it's safe amongst people I trust. I get way less action than most on this board but also much less headache.

[URL]https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/colombia-safety/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2614989]They took my phone and kept looking at pictures I had in there and saying that a bunch of the girls were underage but none of them were.

One by one the cops all left the room until it was just one guy and me and when the Moment of Truth came for me to leave he asked me did I want to get out of it?

He asked me how much would I pay and I said three million but he told me that wasn't enough. Then I started to sense that I had a little negotiating power because he seems a little bit nervous about getting caught.

Thinking back I think the guy really does Jen really want to keep me as a contact in case he can get more money from me and believe it or not he likes having a gringo as a friend. I don't think he's planning on extorting me ever again but if I ever need him officially for help of course is going to cost me. And I do not mind that arrangement one bit..[/QUOTE]Sorry you went through this man. Thanks for being honest about being extorted by the cops due to your carelessness and complacency. Most guys would be too embarrassed to say anything. You can only tempt the devil so many times without getting caught! And dude WTF is wrong with you? Did your balls drop! You really think he's your "friend" after stealing from you like a punk *****? If you truly believe that he's your friend and you have "police" protection / extortion you are delusional.

We all need to be more diligent and cautious. Based on what I read you gents need to be more selective! Interview interview interview. Only if you vibe with the chica and there's mutual chemistry do you take her back to your place. Watch her like a hawk! Only after a few sessions and trust is established can you let your guard down. Worst case going a few nights without getting laid won't kill you. Or, you can go to a casa or strip club.

Me personally, I have never done neither because I enjoy the hunt just like anyone else. But I'm selective and bang less girls in a month then most of you in a week or a day! LOL. You hardcore "seasoned" mongers can keep your el centro while my pussy ass will stay where I'm familiar amongst people I know. Safety is always more important than pussy. This ain't USA or Europe. This is Colombia, la jungla baby!

[URL]https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/colombia-safety/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2615017]
You're the opposite of keeping a low profile, which to me is a better tactic.

Anyway, to each their own.

Good luck, you seem like a good guy at heart.[/QUOTE]Agreed! I love reading Ostee's post but he is the opposite of keeping a low profile. There is a parade of girls going through his rooms, and drugs. I'm sure he was targeted and extorted.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Nptkz8K9A18[/URL]

They are in the thumbnail, also at 2:01.

That is not me and never will be. Maybe those turn out to be my famous last words, jajajaja. I truly do not fear death and if I accept that as the ultimate outcome then most of the time I can live with the results of my actions without any regrets. That is not the same as a Death Wish, far from it. I love life and I love my life and I love living it. My epithet will say on my tombstone, "If I die tomorrow I die a happy man. " I am 100% serious about that.

I don't want anyone to be like me and I certainly don't want to be like anyone else. I'm just documenting a journey and some people seem to benefit a little from my experiences even if they only glean examples about what not to do. And I will continue to post even it's just for the amusement and entertainment factor which many people have told me they enjoy. And wait a minute, could it be possible that a few people might actually join ISG because of my posts? That's a stretch but you never know, that's what I've Been Told.

I also find it amusing that I am sometimes found suspect because of my writing ability. Me can dumb it down and write stupider for people if that makes them calmer, jaja. I do not sit around and do rewrites and carefully choose my words and craft a grammatically perfect post. I'm used to having a professional editor for that and I don't have the patience.

My celebrity sister who has written two New York Times Best Sellers with a third one on the way tells me I'm the best writer in the family. She's being sweet and gracious because she has the books on the Shelf, not me. I have four or five books more than half completed but I have Fear of Completion Syndrome. I'd rather start a new one then finish an old one, jajajja.

So yeah I can turn a phrase and that gives another Target for people to focus on when it taps into their insecurities. I'm used to me, I've been around me for a long time now, a lot of people they never seen anyone like me. I'm a unique and special individual, just like everyone else, jajajaja.

The normal and judicious thing to do would be to walk away from the situation about which I most recently posted. God knows I have enough hawt girls to keep me occupied. Right now I'm taking a little break in the United States. But I know me. I will probably seek out that little hot Vinny chica again. Really, I have a pass now because I know she's nineteen, and I happen to believe Jorge (obviously not his real name) as the principal investigator that I'm not going to suffer double indemnity. He heads a child pronography task force out of Bogota. He really is a cop. I saw his Police Academy photos, and photos of him in uniform at his graduation standing with his mom, etc. , etc.

The guys here go off and all kinds of amusing tangents again everyone needs to solve for it in their own head. That's what brains do, they hate open Loops. But I'm the one living it and don't confuse my somewhat wild and Reckless Behavior (I call it fun) with an inability to perceive the situation.

Life is good here in the states too. I've been retired since 2019 at a relatively young age. I'm getting ready to head to Myrtle Beach and Folly Beach on the same trip in my fully restored and heavily modified (read as, fast as fuck) 1995.

300 ZX Twin Turbo with a very hot woman who also happens to be my ex-wife. We still get along great in fact we're better friends now than we were when we were married. I also just bought two VIP backstage passes for a show that features Vanilla Ice as the lead performer at a Pride Festival to celebrate my birthday. That should be a hoot. I don't think anyone parties harder than drag queens in their full regalia. I hope we get a couple of homophobic anti-gay Posts here in response to that so I can add a couple more numbnuts to my always expanding Ignore List.

I don't do any drugs in the USA, maybe an occasional beer, I'm kind of a health nut believe it or not. I returned to the United States in better physical and mental condition than when I left. I don't Advocate a life of drug use but people have no clue when they're talking about Tussy if they are not speaking from personal experience. Properly made, and mine is custom made, it's a performance enhancer. Sure I do too much sometimes, you can overdose on any drug.

An interesting point worth mentioning is when I got busted and lost my drugs I did not even miss it and did not even occur to me that I was without drugs until a few days later I was visiting a friend and he brought it up he asked me if I wanted some and honest to God that was the first time the thought crossed my mind I was without Tussy. That pretty much proves I do not have an addiction or even a dependence on it. I took a half a gram from him and before I left town I returned it to him unused.

You can lump all recreational drug use into one big pile or you can have a Discerning mind and realize that there's a wave coming in the future of performance-enhancing drugs just as in the same way a lot of you right now are taking antidepressants or mood stabilizers to improve deficits. But in the near future, pharmaceutical companies will be selling drugs as mental and intellectual performance enhancers to people without any perceived mental health or physical diagnosis.

And on that note, Ostee Out, and Keep On Keepin' On! Good Morning! Wow, that turned out to be long so probably will not get read but I just dictated on the Fly before getting out of bed this morning.

Random gratuitous photo includes my mattress in my front yard as I am deep in my mildew abatement project in my master bedroom. Happened while I was away. Never had this problem before but my neighbor told me they had a days of torrential downpour and I'm sure being the low spot of my house my bedroom got hit with high humidity levels, obviously. I will probably have some pros come in at the end to do the final mold Annihilation with their fancy machines but I can do the clothes, shoes, bed and floors before then and save a few pennies. Gives me something to do with a true sense of accomplishment when done. I'll see if I can find a few good photos of my z32 car and ex-wife. My photo files all got jacked when I temporarily deleted everything and moved it to the cloud for my recent passage through immigration. I will PayPal someone a dollar if they can tell me where she is standing in that J. Lo pink short jumper and I'll even give you a huge hint, somewhere in New York City.

[QUOTE=Iponux;2615056]
What is your advice to avoid such a scam in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Colombia or anywhere; have your fun and enjoy, but be smart, low key, not the center of attention, most especially when breaking the rules a bit (drugs, etc).

Common sense really.

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2615021]It's Official: Medellin is the New Costa Rica.

This early October trip to Medellin was my sixth visit to that city, and it might be my last one for a while. The unfavorable changes to the Medellin Facebook scene in the past year, including price inflation, a high rate of cita flakery, and a decrease in certain aspects of the quality of service, have made it a less attractive and competitive destination. I tried a new approach after similar results on my last trip in July and decided to give Medellin a second chance, but it only succeeded in partially mitigating this deteriorating situation..[/QUOTE]Hmmm I've been saying that since after 1999 when I was the only gringo in town, except maybe the Tall man maybe, Lol.

Times change though, either roll with it or move on I guess.

I'll always enjoy Medellin, though it's far from my favorite place anymore.

Does someone have experience with finding Freelancer in Medellin through Tinder? I read here a lot about Facebook, but not about using Tinder for that.

Is this also a possible way for Hunting? Please share your experience. Because I'm not so into facebook and I'm thinking about tinder Gold for Hunting there, but I don't know if this brings success in Medellin.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2615034]Assuming everything Osteoknot wrote really happened, I don't think he was dealing with the real police. The "investigator" probably wasn't wearing a police uniform. How about the other three, uniforms? The fact that the "investigator" was in the area where Osteoknot was staying for the next two days lends more credence to it being a scam. I know for a fact there are civilians, claiming to be policemen, looking for gringos to shake down. I had two encounters with them. I didn't go along with their scheme, but neither had a gun. When Osteoknot returns to Medellin, I wish he would go to the police station and ask if they know the "investigator".

As for Villainy's statement "The reception didn't call the cops that isn't remotely possible. " How does he know that? Does he think there are no hotel employees who work with scammers?[/QUOTE]The first part is certainly a possibility. Although I'm sure if you look hard enough you could find a Colombian cop who could be convinced to accept a bribe.

With the final part, Villainy has been living there for a year or more. If anyone knows about that location, it's probably him.

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2615021]It's Official: Medellin is the New Costa Rica..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2615001]This is why we can't have nice things.[/QUOTE]These two posts made me LOL. I'm definitely observing many of the same things as you are.

- General price inflation, including chica price inflation, if Davivienda ATMs now allowing 2 million COP withdrawals are any indication. Normal FB price seems to be 200 k + taxi now, with a few accepting lower.

- Repeats from prior trips are often not worth it. So far I met with 3 from my prior trip. 2 got fatter, 2 of them became more hardcore / mercenary / gave worse service, all of them wanted more money than before. See attached screenshots.

- Girls appear to be looking for different offers at the same time while negotiating with you. Ex: you give them the price, and they disappear for a few minutes before accepting your offer.

- Please keep the FB scene an open secret and don't tell random dudes about FB. Keep the ones who don't do their homework on Tinder, clubs, SA.

- Once a girl has been in the scene for some time and is above average looking, watch her price go up and service go down.

[QUOTE=Iponux;2615056]I am by no means a Colombian expert, but I come from a worse 3rd world country where prostitution isn't legal.

Shake downs like this are common, often most by cops in vice, as security and police are often not required to show badges and the oversight is non existent, it is hard to identify non cops.

Usually the bait is either a GF of or partner in the scam, and usually its a turf thing, scammers from another area wouldn't dare enter some else's turf.

I am glad that you are safe and got out with minimal losses.

What is your advice to avoid such a scam in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Asking advice from those unqualified to give it, is like following a 10 dollar bill attached to fishing line into a dark alley LOL.

I like the old saying " When in Rome, do as the Romans do". Some people don't understand what this means.

These folks have no business travelling internationally and if they do are subject to the natural laws of predator v. S. Prey. Lolol.

"I pity the fool" Mr. T circa 1983.

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2615021]Over tourism, with an influx of newbie mongers, is clearly one of the main sources of this problem, but it is clearly having impacts on Medellin beyond mongering in general. For example, the guys selling soccer jerseys and other random stuff were more aggressive than they were even just a few months ago in July. They seemed to be offended that I did not want to buy their stuff, as if they were somehow entitled to a sale. Even the guys selling soda from carts in Centro asked for tips for selling me soda during my street meat runs and seemed offended when I disregarded their requests. This does not sound like the Medellin that I came to know and love; it is now more like over touristed places, such as Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic.[/QUOTE]Over-aggressive and abundant hawkers are a visible and powerful street-level indicator of what is also happening in a private sex transactions. It looks like Medellin is at the tipping point- and as you say as soon as the prices are quoted in USD, that's a wrap.

This summer I saw multiple gringo's paying for jerseys / trinkets and in restaurants with USD. If you are so f-ing lazy that you can't be bothered to change your currency, then just stay home dude.

Looks to me like the scene is cooked and any competitive advantage it might've had is now gone. As I've noted before, this is not exactly an easy scene to begin with. In LATAM, I much prefer Brazil and don't mind the higher cost of getting there. Keeps the riff-raff out.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2614921]...The girl's story you heard was clearly wrong. He was staying in a very high-end hotel not an Air BnB. .....[/QUOTE]The story comes out the same if you replace the AirBnb with hotel. There is nothing to gain by replacing hotel with Airbnb. I am guessing the point is if the girl is not part of it, a clarification will be helpful to the girl. I know Otee's posting as it happened and the presumed facts can change once more evidences are known.

I don't know why you guys are approaching girls when you already think they are too young. You will get noticed.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2615210]The story comes out the same if you replace the AirBnb with hotel. There is nothing to gain by replacing hotel with Airbnb. I am guessing the point is if the girl is not part of it, a clarification will be helpful to the girl. I know Otee's posting as it happened and the presumed facts can change once more evidences are known.

I don't know why you guys are approaching girls when you already think they are too young. You will get noticed.[/QUOTE]Seriously? You think an Air BnB and an upscale hotel are the same? Her story smacks of lies. Most AirBnBs don't have porteros, (some do) most owners wouldn't dream of calling the police if they saw someone bringing a girl to their room that appeared too young. They might very well tell the guy to get the fuck out afterwards. Now that wouldn't surprise me at all. BTW even if the cops followed her to the AirBnB how did they get in? How did they know what room he was in? None of her story makes sense.

BUT he was staying in a high end hotel with a 24 hour registration desk and a 24 hour security guard inside. Girls don't go up to someone's room they have to register and the staff would simply not grant her entrance if they were suspicious of her cedula. So for her story to make sense the cops followed her from El Centro to this luxury hotel in Laureles and followed her into the hotel and waited for her to register and then asked what room she went to and went up there.

OR maybe a more reasonable possibility is that she was working with those guys for a cut of the extortion even though she actually was of age. If you think about it. That is the only thing that makes much sense.

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2615001]Unfortunately there was another group of Middle Eastern-looking guys who decided to "make it rain" - and not in COP, but in USD (facepalm). This USD rain lasted an unusually long period of time, as they stretched it out in dribs and drabs, and it consumed the attention of about half of the girls in the club at the time. I had only had two sessions at the club by that point in the night and was still looking for a third, but I could not get it because the USD rain distracted so many of the girls, including a few of my candidates. The irony is that the girls probably could have made more money if they had tried to work for back room sessions with or at least get girlie drinks out of other guys, instead of chasing the small bills that these clowns were throwing around. And, as far as I could tell, these Middle Eastern-looking guys did not even try to fuck any of the girls[/QUOTE]Idiots probably have a target on their backs now. Prime candidates to get robbed, developing countries are the wrong place to do this.

[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2615164]I've actually never been to a casa or strip club I'm Colombia. But I definitely keep low key and don't lease around central. All you "seasoned mongers" can have el centro. My pussy ass will stay with what I know and where it's safe amongst people I trust.[/QUOTE]But you did not always know what you know or know the people you trust now. At one time those things and people were unknown and new to you as well. So how do you decide the things and people that you will learn about and get to know?

[QUOTE=Bill;2615208]These folks have no business travelling internationally and if they do are subject to the natural laws of predator v. S. Prey. Lolol.[/QUOTE]None of us were born with the knowledge we have today. I speak 5 languages and when someone asks me how I learned them I say 1 word at a time, same as the first one when you were a kid. Or you could just keep your mouth closed and not even try and not learn shit.

The person is doing the right thing by asking advice and collecting information before such undertakings instead of just staying home wallowing in ignorance as you propose. You have to start somewhere; or maybe you are different than every other mf that has been born on this planet. Even predators started out as prey or are prey to other predators.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2615183]You can lump all recreational drug use into one big pile or you can have a Discerning mind and realize that there's a wave coming in the future of performance-enhancing drugs just as in the same way a lot of you right now are taking antidepressants or mood stabilizers to improve deficits. But in the near future, pharmaceutical companies will be selling drugs as mental and intellectual performance enhancers to people without any perceived mental health or physical diagnosis.
[/QUOTE]Lots of studies coming out on the benefits of psychedelics / MDMA therapy. Funny how people demonize "drugs", yet are fine with caffeine / alcohol. I've enjoyed reading your adventures in MDE.

If anyone want girlfriendly App directly on the Action I recommend this App. The real location is [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/QT3KtrfWfGp3whtU9[/URL].

Airbnb will give you fake location. No human security in entrance, only electronic access code to the doors.

Type "WalkScore 100 in Poblado ♥ 150 Mb WiFi ●Wash+Dryer" on search or use the link.

[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/43323837?source_impression_id=p3_1634413667_R77bGp3l9MLuPVLm&guests=1&adults=1[/URL]

I didn't like the street girls so I moved on. Beside you walk in this hill area like a goat. Girls will talk to you as soon as you go down from the App after 8 PM.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2615206]These two posts made me LOL. I'm definitely observing many of the same things as you are.

- General price inflation, including chica price inflation, if Davivienda ATMs now allowing 2 million COP withdrawals are any indication. Normal FB price seems to be 200 k + taxi now, with a few accepting lower.

- Repeats from prior trips are often not worth it. So far I met with 3 from my prior trip. 2 got fatter, 2 of them became more hardcore / mercenary / gave worse service, all of them wanted more money than before. See attached screenshots.

- Girls appear to be looking for different offers at the same time while negotiating with you. Ex: you give them the price, and they disappear for a few minutes before accepting your offer.

- Please keep the FB scene an open secret and don't tell random dudes about FB. Keep the ones who don't do their homework on Tinder, clubs, SA.

- Once a girl has been in the scene for some time and is above average looking, watch her price go up and service go down.[/QUOTE]The first time I was offered 2 million COP as an option at a Davivienda ATM was nearly 4 years ago. Initially I thought it was just because of the Christmas season. Three years ago I saw it at all the Davivienda ATMs I used, but others, using cards from other banks could only draw a smaller amount. This past June 2 million was offered for both of my banks, and it appears it's available for most now. I'm not sure something Davivienda started doing at the end of 2017 is an indication of recent changes.

As for the degradation of Facebook, I can only speak for my experiences and I haven't seen the same things. However, my approach might be different. I don't treat it as a transaction. With most girls I have a short, normal conversation and set up a time. I'll ask what she likes to drink and make sure the time is good for her.

What I don't discuss is service. I don't list out my requirements or expectations. The reason I don't discuss requirements is because I don't have any. Each one is unique and I would rather let things develop naturally depending on the girl.

Obviously, if you have certain requirements that won't work, but once you start listing your requirements you change the nature of the encounter. My (probably wrong) opinion is that may be the source of the problem people seem to have with Facebook.

Just today some girl hit me up from Facebook. I've never talked to her before, but it quickly becomes obvious she's offering P P. Then she says something that I've seen a few times: "I'm not a puta, I'm just doing this out of necessity. " That's the mindset of many Facebook girls. I could have pointed out that most putas are just doing it out of necessity, but there's no benefit. If she feels more comfortable pretending that I'm just a friend who gives her money after she fucks me, I'm good with that.

Once you start listing the things she's going to do to you, it's just work. Again my opinion is that is an excuse to be late, to not put forth her best effort and to ask for more money.

I developed those opinions when I was doing a lot of one night stands everywhere I went in the US, with women I met online. The worst experiences were when either me or the girl would try to set up a list of expectations. The best ones were when I just said that we would just see what happens.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2615221]... None of her story makes sense....[/QUOTE]That is the point that there is nothing to gain by lying.

Hey, this is not my fight. They are using the translator so L69 could have misunderstood.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2614737]...
... Using a translator she said [b]something to the effect [/b] that you were renting an apartment (AirBnB) and that she is 19 but looks young so the owners of the apartment called the police....[/QUOTE]The other way to run the scam is to provide a fake ID to an underage girl, then bust the offender in the room with real ID.


I think Ostee is true to his post like he said he would so I am not questioning his report.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2615221]... So for her story to make sense the cops followed her from El Centro to this luxury hotel in Laureles and followed her into the hotel and waited for her to register and then asked what room she went to and went up there.
....[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2614989]...Two days after the incident I was outside and I heard someone whistling me down and it was the investigator and he came over and started making small* talk with me like he was a good friend. * Then he proceeded to describe seeing me the day before and in detail the girl I was with as we were walking to dinner. * That gave me an uneasy feeling to say the least.....[/QUOTE]

Trying to share sensitive information on the hopes that it can benefit others can prove to be not worth the effort here, and you won't be seeing as much of that from me in the future. People can't see the broad strokes and get quagmired in the minutiae.

My guy is confirmed Bogota policia. I also learned how they targeted me and no one here got it right and neither did I until I was told how. And then it made perfect sense.

But there are too many swine around here for me to cast those pearls. I am done with that at least until I rest up some.

And thank you for all the free advice but I never asked for any.

People seem to forget I've never been happier. 'm happy as I can possibly be and happier than I ever thought I would be and I'm not trying to change a thing.

And yes you are correct I don't give a shit about keeping a low profile. Still don't.

But how careless was I really? I chatted this girl up for 3 days before I fucked her in El Centro, and then only after I confirmed that she had a genuine cedula that showed she was 19. Then finally I took her back to my hotel.

Then I got stung in a way that someone here who should know said he's never heard of happening in Medellin before, only in Bogota. Hmmmmm, wait a minute, my guy is from Bogota. So am I among the first or possibly even the first guy to fall prey to this scam in Medellin, who knows?

I would say not unexpected and perhaps not a surprise if someone was going to get hit it would be me, because of my high profile, but I would not say careless or stupid, but that mostly a matter of opinion.

The main lesson I learned directly related to the event was that just because a girl is of legal age that's not enough to protect you in the short-term. You may win the court battle but it's not worth the aggravation.

The biggest lesson I learned overall is the surprisingly high number of numbnuts who post here. Projection is a rampant defense mechanism here. I'm not trying to change one thing in my life. I'm happy with my life and happy with how things are.

Finally I'm not trying to have the last word but I suggest we drop this topic. This dead horse has been flogged into dogmeat.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2615202]Does someone have experience with finding Freelancer in Medellin through Tinder? I read here a lot about Facebook, but not about using Tinder for that.

Is this also a possible way for Hunting? Please share your experience. Because I'm not so into facebook and I'm thinking about tinder Gold for Hunting there, but I don't know if this brings success in Medellin.[/QUOTE]I've done it before. You can meet some nice girls on there, but you have to use coded language about what you're looking for. If it seems like she is wanting sugar or just "having fun" then you have to move the conversation over to Whatsapp or Instagram or Facebook. Never use words like prostitution or escorting or anything like that on Tinder, you'll get banned.

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2615001] Unfortunately there was another group of Middle Eastern-looking guys who decided to "make it rain" - and not in COP, but in USD (facepalm). This USD rain lasted an unusually long period of time, as they stretched it out in dribs and drabs, and it consumed the attention of about half of the girls in the club at the time. I had only had two sessions at the club by that point in the night and was still looking for a third, but I could not get it because the USD rain distracted so many of the girls, including a few of my candidates. The irony is that the girls probably could have made more money if they had tried to work for back room sessions with or at least get girlie drinks out of other guys, instead of chasing the small bills that these clowns were throwing around. And, as far as I could tell, these Middle Eastern-looking guys did not even try to fuck any of the girls.[/QUOTE]I'm friends on FB and follow a bunch of Medellin Semi-Pros / THOTS / Talent and for the past few months a bunch of them have been posting pictures of themselves in Abu Dhabi and Dubai. I would not be surprised if those guys are importing their port-a-potties from South America now.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2615267]Trying to share sensitive information on the hopes that it can benefit others can prove to be not worth the effort here, and you won't be seeing as much of that from me in the future. People can't see the broad strokes and get quagmired in the minutiae.

My guy is confirmed Bogota policia. I also learned how they targeted me and no one here got it right and neither did I until I was told how. And then it made perfect sense.

But there are too many swine around here for me to cast those pearls. I am done with that at least until I rest up some.

And thank you for all the free advice but I never asked for any.

People seem to forget I've never been happier. 'm happy as I can possibly be and happier than I ever thought I would be and I'm not trying to change a thing.

And yes you are correct I don't give a shit about keeping a low profile. Still don't.

But how careless was I really? I chatted this girl up for 3 days before I fucked her in El Centro, and then only after I confirmed that she had a genuine cedula that showed she was 19. Then finally I took her back to my hotel. .[/QUOTE]Glad you are back home Ostee. I try to keep my mouth shut around here because I'm a fucking noob so I just quietly RTFT everyday and try to remain in lurking status but one thing that's been bugging me that I can't shake is the picture someone somehow secretly managed to take of you in a restaurant a while back. Could have been nothing, but it bugged me then and it's starting to bug me even more now. Really hope there isn't anyone outside this forum that knows more about your adventures than we do. Anyway, I don't want to freak you out and you know what you're doing so I won't say any more. Always appreciate your contributions to the forum - - I've learned a lot from you and although I'll miss your epic tales I'm glad you're back home so you can keep low for a bit, rejuvenate, and most importantly relax. Take care & stay safe!

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2615267] I also learned how they targeted me and no one here got it right and neither did I until I was told how. And then it made perfect sense.
But how careless was I really? I chatted this girl up for 3 days before I fucked her in El Centro, and then only after I confirmed that she had a genuine cedula that showed she was 19. Then finally I took her back to my hotel.
The biggest lesson I learned overall is the surprisingly high number of numbnuts who post here. Projection is a rampant defense mechanism here. I'm not trying to change one thing in my life. I'm happy with my life and happy with how things are.[/QUOTE]More careful than most, I suspect Osteo. More careful than I, that's for sure. Jeje.

Would love to hear the real story behind one day.

Yes, there are plenty of "numbnuts " here. Don't like to paint everyone with the same brush, but it seems that there is a common trait among USAns. If they don't agree with you or don't like what you say, they insult you. They tell you you're dumb before they even understand the situation, then they go on to tell you how you should have dealt with it. Totally obnoxious.

I know it's a generalistaion. Some of my best friends are from USA, it's just a too common theme from their culture.

Anyway, stay well and recharge.

To be clear, I am not recommending this.

But I am sure you know, if you wish to get a little pay-back on this cop who basically stole from you, there are very cheap and easy ways to take care of it. Don't think I haven't been tempted on occasion.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2615267]Trying to share sensitive information on the hopes that it can benefit others can prove to be not worth the effort here, and you won't be seeing as much of that from me in the future. People can't see the broad strokes and get quagmired in the minutiae.

My guy is confirmed Bogota policia. I also learned how they targeted me and no one here got it right and neither did I until I was told how. And then it made perfect sense.

But there are too many swine around here for me to cast those pearls. I am done with that at least until I rest up some.

And thank you for all the free advice but I never asked for any.

People seem to forget I've never been happier. 'm happy as I can possibly be and happier than I ever thought I would be and I'm not trying to change a thing.

And yes you are correct I don't give a shit about keeping a low profile. Still don't.

But how careless was I really? I chatted this girl up for 3 days before I fucked her in El Centro, and then only after I confirmed that she had a genuine cedula that showed she was 19. Then finally I took her back to my hotel.

Then I got stung in a way that someone here who should know said he's never heard of happening in Medellin before, only in Bogota. Hmmmmm, wait a minute, my guy is from Bogota. So am I among the first or possibly even the first guy to fall prey to this scam in Medellin, who knows?

I would say not unexpected and perhaps not a surprise if someone was going to get hit it would be me, because of my high profile, but I would not say careless or stupid, but that mostly a matter of opinion.

The main lesson I learned directly related to the event was that just because a girl is of legal age that's not enough to protect you in the short-term. You may win the court battle but it's not worth the aggravation.

The biggest lesson I learned overall is the surprisingly high number of numbnuts who post here. Projection is a rampant defense mechanism here. I'm not trying to change one thing in my life. I'm happy with my life and happy with how things are.

Finally I'm not trying to have the last word but I suggest we drop this topic. This dead horse has been flogged into dogmeat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MedMad;2615178][URL]https://youtu.be/Nptkz8K9A18[/URL]

They are in the thumbnail, also at 2:01.[/QUOTE]The street behind the church # 51-30. Hotel Channel. She stands at the bottom. Fake boobs. Pretty face and smile. 5 foot. She would not go to my hotel around the corner and I have bias against using that hotel. Do not remember her asking price.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2614989]And this last part will sound insane because I'm giving advice about this but it's something I've said before in the past. If you ever stuck in a legal situation in another country it doesn't matter where and you have the opportunity to get out short and quick always take that opportunity, do not ever prolong it, don't try to stand up for what is right it's misguided, you always end up paying more in the end.
[/QUOTE]I think that is great advice anywhere you are.

I have been in CTG twice with my gal, and she is from there. She has issues with her mother, and we passed by her place. I said do you want to say Hi? She said no. Sure enough, someone caught us and posted it on social media, and her mother was tipped off.

Next time we are there, her mother sees us and she texts my gal later. And what does CTG have like a million people, and I am there for like 10 days total? Hell, we ran into three of her friends just being out and about.

My point is if I could not stay anonymous with my gal for 10 days, what was the chances you were seeing all those women, doing all those drugs, and buying them stuff like scooters? It seems like someone was bound to take notice and try to make a play.

I used to go to strip clubs about once a week. I ran into some bouncer type one time that I could not for the life of me place, and he ran through every woman I had been with and what my rep was at a few of the clubs. I was like, "And who the fuck are you?" I am just not sure how anonymous anyone can really be anymore.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2615260]That is the point that there is nothing to gain by lying.

Hey, this is not my fight. They are using the translator so L69 could have misunderstood.

The other way to run the scam is to provide a fake ID to an underage girl, then bust the offender in the room with real ID..[/QUOTE]The good ok' switcharoo. A restaurant on the beach in Cartagena got me with this BS. They gave me a menu, I ordered. Then when the tab came out, it was 3 x the price, I asked for the menu again, then they gave me one with 3 x the price of the original menu Jajajja.

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2615001]I had heard and read before this trip that an influx of newbies was responsible in large part for the deterioration of the Medellin scene, snip

Unfortunately there was another group of Middle Eastern-looking guys who decided to "make it rain" - and not in COP, but in USD (facepalm). This USD rain lasted an unusually long period of time, as they stretched it out in dribs and drabs, and it consumed the attention of about half of the girls in the club at the time. I had only had two sessions at the club by that point in the night and was still looking for a third, but I could not get it because the USD rain distracted so many of the girls, including a few of my candidates. The irony is that the girls probably could have made more money if they had tried to work for back room sessions with or at least get girlie drinks out of other guys, instead of chasing the small bills that these clowns were throwing around. And, as far as I could tell, these Middle Eastern-looking guys did not even try to fuck any of the girls.

Suffice is to say that my next Colombia trip will be to Bogota or Cali.

This is why we can't have nice things.[/QUOTE]Other FB boards are saying much worse about an influx foreigners looking for cocaine and ho's asking for advice etc. Loose lips sink ships.

Hey everyone,

First I wanted to thank everyone for their reports, I feel like I know the area already.

I am visiting Medellin from 10/31 - 11/5.

I picked hotel Duparc because of location but was thinking of switching to energy living, thoughts?

I am 35 lots of tats and have pretty good success in dr picking up local girls in the mall. Is the mall a good spot to get WhatsApp in Medellin?

Is Fase dos or la Isla worth it?

Are the escorts listed online real pics usually, or cat fish?

I am a noobie so any advice you have?

I read online that I can buy a prepaid phone in the airport, is that true? I have a burner phone in the states but not sute if it will work there.

Best clubs to visit? I read gusto and luxury?

I will be sure to post a in depth trip report. I use take me back to Sosua for DR, I promise I will here.

Is mansion worth it? I was going to book 2 nights there so then I have access to it, but I already booked my full stay at Duparc, is that even worth it?

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2615387]Other FB boards are saying much worse about an influx foreigners looking for cocaine and ho's asking for advice etc. Loose lips sink ships.[/QUOTE]The sky is always falling according to someone. People have been claiming that Medellin is doomed for as long as I've been on ISG. The same claims happen everywhere over everything. Look at every US election. No matter who wins one group is convinced the world is about to end and another believes it's going to be all puppies and rainbows.

Twenty years ago I was a strip club aficionado. In my favorite local club everyone knew me. I wasn't a big spender, but I was a dependable customer. I was always friendly and polite and treated everyone right. Every now and then some group would come in and make it rain. The newer girls would flock to that table hoping to have a big night. The better dancers mostly kept to their regulars, because they knew that that group wouldn't be back, but the regulars were there every week.

Right now there are crowds making it rain. In another 6 months they'll be throwing their money somewhere else.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2615387]Other FB boards are saying much worse about an influx foreigners looking for cocaine and ho's asking for advice etc. Loose lips sink ships.[/QUOTE]Its sad what's happening in Medellin now. However, I really can't blame the mongers as many other destinations in the world are either closed or not up to their pre-covid standards. I remember my great times in the past in destinations like China, Singapore, Argentina, etc. which in their day attracted numerous hoards of mongers, now all gone well before covid. Will Colombia join the list?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2615267]Trying to share sensitive information on the hopes that it can benefit others can prove to be not worth the effort here, and you won't be seeing as much of that from me in the future. People can't see the broad strokes and get quagmired in the minutiae.

My guy is confirmed Bogota policia. I also learned how they targeted me and no one here got it right and neither did I until I was told how. And then it made perfect sense.

But there are too many swine around here for me to cast those pearls. I am done with that at least until I rest up some.

And thank you for all the free advice but I never asked for any.

People seem to forget I've never been happier. 'm happy as I can possibly be and happier than I ever thought I would be and I'm not trying to change a thing.

And yes you are correct I don't give a shit about keeping a low profile. Still don't..[/QUOTE]Osteo,

I've told you before, I really do enjoy reading your posts, its entertaining to read about your "over the top" and "on the edge" lifestyle. Personally I don't know you or care about you, and if your behavior leads to your demise, that was your choice, bless you either way. You post very regularly about your reckless behavior and your last adventure almost landed you in jail, but more importantly people who consistently engage in this type of reckless behavior could have a very real impact on how the game is played in Medellin. There is already a strong movement against sex tourism there in the city, you can look up the recent Medellin news clips on youtube. If we all start treating Medellin like its a game of Grand Theft Auto, eventually authorities are going to pay much more attention to the single gringos who are clearly there to take advantage of cheap drugs and prostitutes and have little respect or regard for anything else in the city. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. This is going to just encourage more members / readers / mongers to act like assholes on vacation down there, until it gets to the point the authorities crackdown on prostitution and Medellin turns into Havana. A gringo can't even walk down the street with a girl in Havana without a cop harassing you. It also makes gringos targets, more wreckless gringoes will lead to more predatory scams to shake them down, especially in a poverty stricken nation. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] on the forum, etc.

I sincerely do thank you for sharing the story about your shakedown, that is very valuable information which should be shared and puts a good warning out to other members about the possible dangers of Medellin. I am also being over cautious in my post and I apologize if it comes off as harsh, but I think its very important to state posts like these to remind people that Medellin is a great place, but things can change quickly in just a few years.

If we all play the game safely, the game will be there for us longer and its a safer, cheaper, more enjoyable game to play. You as a player will also last longer. As I have said before, keep your head down and enjoy the ride. The forum should focus on the sharing of information for the safety and enjoyment of us mongers. Not a tool used to contribute to our own demise.[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

I was warned by a moderator before for a similar post. The moderator claimed I am discouraging people from posting. I am not discouraging people from posting, I am promoting monger safety. None of us want to end up in the situation Osteo was in, and it should be stated here for all readers to see. I don't see anything wrong with my post, and hopefully it is allowed to be posted.

I 100% support the interest of many in La Isla, Gustos etc. I have some doubts about how fair it is to complain about big spenders in a business that directly caters to that market segment. I do understand that big spenders have a lot more impact in Lleras / Gustos / LaIsla etc than they do in the gritty world of Centro rats. I recently heard about new restrictions in Lleras aimed at reducing the number of providers. If the restrictions push them back to Plaza Botero or the late night San Diego scene, well so be it.

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2615001]I had heard and read before this trip that an influx of newbies was responsible in large part for the deterioration of the Medellin scene, but it was not until last week that I saw it with my own eyes. I always travel solo and usually steer clear of other gringos (except when I stayed at the Mansion as a newbie, when the camaraderie was extremely helpful and supportive). My latest choice of lodging. Provenza Lofts. Exposed me to other gringos more than usual.

One of a group of three guys staying there saw the girls that I was having over when I came out to pay the hoes' taxis; he was on the front porch smoking a lot. Apparently they thought that my lineup was unbelievably smoking hot. They seemed to think that I was some sort of James Bond of mongering.

I explained to them that I thought that my lineup for this trip was actually sub-par by Medellin standards, or at least compared to my previous trips. They asked where I was finding girls, as they seemed to think that Parque Lleras, Gusto, and Tinder were the best places to look (facepalm). I warned them to avoid Lleras and Tinder girls for security reasons and to avoid Gusto for price reasons. They were vaguely aware of Facebook as a source of hoes and had no knowledge of typical / historical pricing there.

I ran into them again when I was catching my Uber to La Isla on my last Saturday night. They were aware of Fase II, but I explained to them that La Isla had the best talent in town. Lo and behold, they showed up at La Isla hours later..[/QUOTE]

If you search the comment history of those groups you will find that sort of finger pointing going back 10+ years.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2615387]Other FB boards are saying much worse about an influx foreigners looking for cocaine and ho's asking for advice etc. Loose lips sink ships.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2615306]The street behind the church # 51-30. Hotel Channel. She stands at the bottom. Fake boobs. Pretty face and smile. 5 foot. She would not go to my hotel around the corner and I have bias against using that hotel. Do not remember her asking price.[/QUOTE]All hot girls are in Colombia.

A bit of real talk, those of you who have been here or been coming here since the 90's should know that 2016 FARC peace accord and ceasefire was the inflection point that led to the level of tourism (all types, including punters) that we see today. History will give the liberal administration that preceded Ivan Duque credit for turning around Colombia's image of unbridled terrorism and mayhem and growing in the tourism sector. If you were here during the lockdown you would have seen the increase in disaffected young people joining FARC like groups and FARC like groups engaging in a campaign of assassinations of rural social and political leaders become the number 2 news story behind the pandemic. It was not a story at all in international media. Reports about the severe economic decline caused by the pandemic did show up in the international media. That economic decline continues but now that the pandemic is under better control it is only affecting the lower strata of the population.

In spite of all of this, there has been a noticeable uptick in punter arrivals. It's noticeable even in grimy Centro. In my opinion, the impact is much greater in more upscale and gringo centric venues. In Centro, even though there are many more gringos than in the past, their impact is minimal. The Centro scene and its cost is unchanged in my experience. Now, a prediction. In the run up to the national election there will be an increasing number of the traditional street demonstrations. Several metro and bus routes were disrupted by them yesterday afternoon. This election will be the first (and hopefully the last) with a pandemic in flight. I expect the ongoing economic pressure will ratchet up the intensity and quantity of street demonstrations and possibly riots. I should not have to point out the impact that will have on punter and mainstream tourism. On another front, Colombia's right wing media are propping up its preferred candidates with now familiar demagogic commentary about immigration, race, and poverty.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2615199]Hmmm I've been saying that since after 1999 when I was the only gringo in town, except maybe the Tall man maybe, Lol.

Times change though, either roll with it or move on I guess.

I'll always enjoy Medellin, though it's far from my favorite place anymore.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tasss;2615206]These two posts made me LOL. I'm definitely observing many of the same things as you are.

- General price inflation, including chica price inflation, if Davivienda ATMs now allowing 2 million COP withdrawals are any indication. Normal FB price seems to be 200 k + taxi now, with a few accepting lower.

- Repeats from prior trips are often not worth it. So far I met with 3 from my prior trip. 2 got fatter, 2 of them became more hardcore / mercenary / gave worse service, all of them wanted more money than before. See attached screenshots.

- Girls appear to be looking for different offers at the same time while negotiating with you. Ex: you give them the price, and they disappear for a few minutes before accepting your offer.

- Please keep the FB scene an open secret and don't tell random dudes about FB. Keep the ones who don't do their homework on Tinder, clubs, SA.

- Once a girl has been in the scene for some time and is above average looking, watch her price go up and service go down.[/QUOTE]Finished my second trip in first week of October. I have noticed and experienced same that things changed so quickly since I went in June. Just in 4 months. In June I paid 120 mil to 150 mil cop. Now they want 200 to 250 mil. Now some here will argue that everything went up around the globe and inflation and gas prices. But there's is more supply and competition if you will. Between vennies and paisa. So price should be down. Conversion from USD to Paisa is same. In centro cops are randomly stopping people to search. And in casas I saw more locals visiting then tourists. On the streets saw more Venezuelans selling candy everywhere.

I am impressed that every body wears masks and some business would ask you to wear. I travelled by Metro a lot. All the bars were busy during week end. I find Medellin restaurants more cleaner and well kept then USA. Staff is always well dressed, they clean their counters and kitchen every few minutes.

It's completely unfair to use a broad brush to paint guys as numbnuts. It's true in my case but that doesn't mean it's the case for most others.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2615287]More careful than most, I suspect Osteo. More careful than I, that's for sure. Jeje.

Would love to hear the real story behind one day.

Yes, there are plenty of "numbnuts " here. Don't like to paint everyone with the same brush, but it seems that there is a common trait among USAns. If they don't agree with you or don't like what you say, they insult you. They tell you you're dumb before they even understand the situation, then they go on to tell you how you should have dealt with it. Totally obnoxious.

I know it's a generalistaion. Some of my best friends are from USA, it's just a too common theme from their culture.

Anyway, stay well and recharge.[/QUOTE]

"Keep the facebook scene a secret"? Is that a sarcastic comment? The facebook scene is about as secret as Lleras girls.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2615206]These two posts made me LOL. I'm definitely observing many of the same things as you are.

- General price inflation, including chica price inflation, if Davivienda ATMs now allowing 2 million COP withdrawals are any indication. Normal FB price seems to be 200 k + taxi now, with a few accepting lower.

- Repeats from prior trips are often not worth it. So far I met with 3 from my prior trip. 2 got fatter, 2 of them became more hardcore / mercenary / gave worse service, all of them wanted more money than before. See attached screenshots.

- Girls appear to be looking for different offers at the same time while negotiating with you. Ex: you give them the price, and they disappear for a few minutes before accepting your offer.

- Please keep the FB scene an open secret and don't tell random dudes about FB. Keep the ones who don't do their homework on Tinder, clubs, SA.

- Once a girl has been in the scene for some time and is above average looking, watch her price go up and service go down.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2615167]Sorry you went through this man. Thanks for being honest about being extorted by the cops due to your carelessness and complacency. Most guys would be too embarrassed to say anything. You can only tempt the devil so many times without getting caught! And dude WTF is wrong with you? Did your balls drop! You really think he's your "friend" after stealing from you like a punk *****? If you truly believe that he's your friend and you have "police" protection / extortion you are delusional.

We all need to be more diligent and cautious. Based on what I read you gents need to be more selective! Interview interview interview. Only if you vibe with the chica and there's mutual chemistry do you take her back to your place. Watch her like a hawk! Only after a few sessions and trust is established can you let your guard down. Worst case going a few nights without getting laid won't kill you. Or, you can go to a casa or strip club.

Me personally, I have never done neither because I enjoy the hunt just like anyone else. But I'm selective and bang less girls in a month then most of you in a week or a day! LOL. You hardcore "seasoned" mongers can keep your el centro while my pussy ass will stay where I'm familiar amongst people I know. Safety is always more important than pussy. This ain't USA or Europe. This is Colombia, la jungla baby!

[URL]https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/colombia-safety/[/URL][/QUOTE]Clicked the link and read the article seems very familiar.

The author is giving us a list of do's and don'ts after his friend was robbed (x3) last at gunpoint, and he was too, then stabbed.

The author tells us he would still return to Colombia but change his ways.

What's that famous north flowing river in Africa called? Denial.

Could be the addiction some of us here have called Puszy a. K. a. Quim on the cranium.

Maybe all we can do sometimes is to suggest, allude to, or just watch the downward spiral, not unlike seeing a beautiful crack hore get skinnier and waste away as time passes.

What can be done? Pokemon, save 'them all?

You can get an extensive list of do's and don'ts tattooed to your forearm, or committed to memory.

But if your a foreigner in Medellin and can be identified as such from your appearance and language to your dress or mannerisms, You may as well have a neon flashing bullseye target on your back complete with audio that says "yes im a gringo with money or bank card how will you separate me from it ? " LOL.

Famous last words. It won't happen to me - Just keep your head on a swivel- I'm very careful- those other guys are stupid- it is what it is- it won't happen again- it doesn't bother me- I'm in control- just stay positive- I just RTFF. Lol

I will be in Medellin Oct. 31-nov7 if anyone wants to hook up.

[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2615457]Finished my second trip in first week of October. I have noticed and experienced same that things changed so quickly since I went in June. Just in 4 months. In June I paid 120 mil to 150 mil cop. Now they want 200 to 250 mil. Now some here will argue that everything went up around the globe and inflation and gas prices. But there's is more supply and competition if you will. Between vennies and paisa. So price should be down. Conversion from USD to Paisa is same. In centro cops are randomly stopping people to search. And in casas I saw more locals visiting then tourists. On the streets saw more Venezuelans selling candy everywhere.

I am impressed that every body wears masks and some business would ask you to wear. I travelled by Metro a lot. All the bars were busy during week end. I find Medellin restaurants more cleaner and well kept then USA. Staff is always well dressed, they clean their counters and kitchen every few minutes.[/QUOTE]Cops have always been stopping and searching random people. This is nothing new. There are also always more locals than tourists in the casas. It might seem different if you only visit New Life and get there at the wrong time, but their bread and butter income is from the locals.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2615419]I read online that I can buy a prepaid phone in the airport, is that true? I have a burner phone in the states but not sute if it will work there.

Is mansion worth it? I was going to book 2 nights there so then I have access to it, but I already booked my full stay at Duparc, is that even worth it?[/QUOTE]I don't think you can buy a prepaid phone at the airport. If you have an unlocked GSM phone that works in the US, it should work in Medellin.

My suggestion is to visit the Mansion bar one evening and see for yourself if you think the atmosphere is worth the higher price for a room that is not up to the standards of most good hotels. You have to pay an entrance fee at the bar.

[QUOTE=Premant;2615472]I will be in Medellin Oct. 31-nov7 if anyone wants to hook up.[/QUOTE]I will be there Oct. 31 till nv 7, I have chica thru Colombia cupid. Com good place, mine wants to have sex she said. Nice looking 28 one kid I will be staying at the Dann Carlton near the park very nice place. 67 $ per night let me know if hook up Ron.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2615456]A bit of real talk, those of you who have been here or been coming here since the 90's should know that 2016 FARC peace accord and ceasefire was the inflection point that led to the level of tourism (all types, including punters) that we see today. History will give the liberal administration that preceded Ivan Duque credit for turning around Colombia's image of unbridled terrorism and mayhem and growing in the tourism sector. If you were here during the lockdown you would have seen the increase in disaffected young people joining FARC like groups and FARC like groups engaging in a campaign of assassinations of rural social and political leaders become the number 2 news story behind the pandemic. It was not a story at all in international media. Reports about the severe economic decline caused by the pandemic did show up in the international media. That economic decline continues but now that the pandemic is under better control it is only affecting the lower strata of the population.

In spite of all of this, there has been a noticeable uptick in punter arrivals. It's noticeable even in grimy Centro. In my opinion, the impact is much greater in more upscale and gringo centric venues. In Centro, even though there are many more gringos than in the past, their impact is minimal. The Centro scene and its cost is unchanged in my experience. Now, a prediction. In the run up to the national election there will be an increasing number of the traditional street demonstrations..[/QUOTE]My biggest concern with the upcoming election is who is elected, and how it will effect foreigners and tourism after the election.

There could be some very unpleasant changes on the horizon.

Hopefully the candidate elected is not anti-American as that will be bad news.

FYI the vast majority of crime victims here are Colombian. It's true that the vast majority of crime victims we read about on this and other gringo websites are not Colombian. That said, it's also true Colombians or foreigners are all vulnerable to crimes and we should all do what we can to control the risk.

[QUOTE=Bill;2615470]Clicked the link and read the article seems very familiar.

The author is giving us a list of do's and don'ts after his friend was robbed (x3) last at gunpoint, and he was too, then stabbed.

The author tells us he would still return to Colombia but change his ways.

What's that famous north flowing river in Africa called? Denial.

Could be the addiction some of us here have called Puszy a. K. a. Quim on the cranium.

Maybe all we can do sometimes is to suggest, allude to, or just watch the downward spiral, not unlike seeing a beautiful crack hore get skinnier and waste away as time passes.

What can be done? Pokemon, save 'them all?

You can get an extensive list of do's and don'ts tattooed to your forearm, or committed to memory.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2615457]... I travelled by Metro a lot. All the bars were busy during week end. I find Medellin restaurants more cleaner and well kept then USA. Staff is always well dressed, they clean their counters and kitchen every few minutes.[/QUOTE]I think most tourists when they are in Medellin are automatically considered at least upper middle class and will be staying in better area. That conclusion is maybe only partially true.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2615433]...

I've told you before, ... your last adventure almost landed you in jail,..[/QUOTE]If he wants safety, he would stay home. Besides, he explained a few times already and one can see his mindset about life is different from yours. In the context of this instance, did he do anything unusual?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2615523]If he wants safety, he would stay home. Besides, he explained a few times already and one can see his mindset about life is different from yours. In the context of this instance, did he do anything unusual?[/QUOTE]Whatever he wants to do it's his life, I enjoy most of his posts, he's a true wild man but playing a very dangerous game, but for the life of me can't understand why you would want to be friends with someone that extorted 1,000 $out of him and acts like no big deal, very weird!

[QUOTE=JustTK;2615287]More careful than most, I suspect Osteo. More careful than I, that's for sure. Jeje.

Would love to hear the real story behind one day.

Yes, there are plenty of "numbnuts " here. Don't like to paint everyone with the same brush, but it seems that there is a common trait among USAns. If they don't agree with you or don't like what you say, they insult you. They tell you you're dumb before they even understand the situation, then they go on to tell you how you should have dealt with it. Totally obnoxious.

I know it's a generalistaion. Some of my best friends are from USA, it's just a too common theme from their culture.

Anyway, stay well and recharge.[/QUOTE]It's obvious that you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to Americans, with this "USAns" nonsense. Claiming to have American friends doesn't redeem that, and in fact, to borrow a phrase, is "totally obnoxious."

Sadly some people are stupid, with a higher ratio of the same among mongers for whatever reason. One should expect the stupidity to be demonstrated with reason and evidence, but cannot always expect tactfulness. Expecting the same just makes one appear as a whiner.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2614737]
Later that day her friend appears and I inform her of the same thing. Using a translator she said something to the effect that you were renting an apartment (AirBnB) and that she is 19 but looks young so the owners of the apartment called the police.
[/QUOTE]I am not taking sides in this discussion per se. But I will say this: what the girl says about the apartment owner call the police makes sense. The law says that if the owner allows there to be a minor in an apartment without their parent present then they government can confiscate the apartment. So owners are going to have a hair trigger when it comes to calling the police if they suspect anything in order to protect their investment.

"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!

Hunter S. Thompson, The Proud Highway: Saga of a Desperate Southern Gentleman, 1955-1967."

Another El Centro find from my most recent trip to Medellin. She is atypical. Sweet, clean, smarter than average. But I've never met a girl in El Centro who was innocent, even the new ones. But she's good enough to get a number in my line up somewhere around number 11 or 12, I haven't sorted that out lately. I need to redo my line up. There was some seismic shifts this last trip due to everything from pregnancy to lesbianism to death in the immediate family. But my system still works in fact it has served me exceedingly well through Covid and anything the world has thrown at us, and I'm not ready to give it up anytime soon. I'm not going to waste my time and energy explaining my system at this time plus I don't think it would work well for anyone else it's sort of wrapped around my own unique, some would say warped, mentality.

Anywho check out Sunny below. I call her Sunny because of her great disposition and round bright face. Her sexuality feels 100% natural. As in the one photo where she is airing out her pussy after I gave her a good hard pounding in The Real, the closest El Central Love Motel to the front door of the Veracruz Church. Between the three, the Zona Rosa, the Premiere, and the Real, the Real is the busiest and the most professional. And fun. I haven't found a girl behind the desk or a maid in the Real yet, who won't flirt.

Wanted to know or any tips anyone had to get in touch with the fb chicas and any recommendations anyone might have?

Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2615501]My biggest concern with the upcoming election is who is elected, and how it will effect foreigners and tourism after the election.

There could be some very unpleasant changes on the horizon.

Hopefully the candidate elected is not anti-American as that will be bad news.[/QUOTE]I don't think you have to worry about this, even if the candidate that is anti-American got elected. He would wants limited American Government involve in the country but probably not tourists. Tourists bring money and why would anyone be against that? Do you really think the new president give a fuck if more Americans come to Colombia to do spend money (tourism, drugs, pros, etc.) and possibly extorted by the local? It just helps the local economy, probably solidify his position.

An anti-American is highly unlikely. Both the left and right are keen to deal with America, albeit in different ways.

Guys on the right like Duque favor the large corporations of the US and other wealthy countries. They have consistently given multinational industrial companies a free hand to exploit land and natural resources. Part of the reasoning has been that it's a way to prevent the armed groups like FARC from engaging in illegal mining along with their other revenue streams (drugs and kidnappings). For the rural population it's like choosing between the measles or the mumps. The armed groups and the big multinationals have both engaged in land grab abuses and horrific environmental crimes.

The left of course will play ball with the US to get foreign aid and loan guarantees. It's not like either end of the political spectrum is going to impose immigration bans on Americans. I don't see that happening.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2615501]My biggest concern with the upcoming election is who is elected, and how it will effect foreigners and tourism after the election.

There could be some very unpleasant changes on the horizon.

Hopefully the candidate elected is not anti-American as that will be bad news.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RacShack;2615530]Whatever he wants to do it's his life, I enjoy most of his posts, he's a true wild man but playing a very dangerous game, but for the life of me can't understand why you would want to be friends with someone that extorted 1,000 $out of him and acts like no big deal, very weird![/QUOTE]Agreed! He can do what he likes and good luck with that. I enjoy his adventures through his posts but I rather not be in his shoes. I like pussies as much as he does but not the risk he's taking. I always try to keep a low profile but I stand out like a sore thumb. What happened to him only reinforce my thinking about keeping a low profile and apparently what I posted offended him (not my intention). As far as I'm concerned we're all here to learn to stay safe while have fun in Colombia, at least that what I'm here for.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2615592]An anti-American is highly unlikely. Both the left and right are keen to deal with America, albeit in different ways.[/QUOTE]Well if a guy similar to Chavez in Venezuela gets elected I don't see things boding well for tourism, but that's just my opinion.

And a lot of the voters are sick of Duque of the right who can't run again, so there's a good chance somebody from the left might be elected.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2615523]If he wants safety, he would stay home. Besides, he explained a few times already and one can see his mindset about life is different from yours. In the context of this instance, did he do anything unusual?[/QUOTE]His mindset is his business. Like I said, bless him and wish Osteo the best. The point of my post is, members don't need to write about every fucked up self destructive thing they do and post it on the forum for every John, Joe, and Mike to read. Then the readers go down there and act in a similar manner. Eventually its going to have an impact on our travels to the city of Eternal Spring. Osteo seems like a tough guy to say the least, I am sure he could careless about one members suggestion, and I apologize if it seemed like I singled him out to make my point.

[QUOTE=Id481;2615454]All hot girls are in Colombia.[/QUOTE]MedMad asked where a certain girl was located that he saw on a Youtube video so I told him. So what exactly are you trying to say? Nothing important I would guess.

[QUOTE=Carri438;2615589]Wanted to know or any tips anyone had to get in touch with the fb chicas and any recommendations anyone might have?

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Hi bud, welcome, their is sooooooooo much information how to do that on here, should be very easy to find, I have tons for you to start with, I'll PM some to get started!

People who follow me know I will post WhatsApp transcripts every now and then because I think they can be illustrative and sometimes entertaining. Sunny has been messaging me more than once a day ever since I got back to the states, and she finally got around to asking me for money. This is mainly for the newbies out there.

If you are seeing a puta regularly she will ask you for extra money as sure as there is night and day. Be ready for it. If you're a newbie you will not believe how persuasive and sincere they will sound. They will say anything if they think it gets them an extra peso. When the rent is due every Colombian girl has a mother or baby in the hospital usually with some form of uncontrolled bleeding, jeje.

That's up to you how you handle it, but it's important to set realistic expectations, limits and boundaries early on and this is an example of that.

The simplistic response would be to just say no, which works and the way a lot of the more Neanderthal type guys here would handle it. But if you like her and you want to continue fucking her, then I believe an actual dialogue keeps the dynamic alive even if the content is not what she wants to hear. And as you can see I will take the opportunity to plant seeds that might pay off down the line, jajaja.

Her name is listed as below because that's how Google translated it from El Centro Jackie, which is how she is listed in my contacts. I need to change that to Sunny, jajaja.

10/15, 10:43 PM The Jackelinne Center: Asti.

10/15, 10:43 PM The Jackelinne Center: I need your help.

10/15, 10:43 PM The Jackelinne Center: Please.

10/15, 11:53 PM Ostee: No, I know what you're going to say next, No way, No, I won't give you any extra money, forget it, forget it.

10/15, 11:53 PM Ostee: Is that clear enough for you or do I need to explain more?

10/15, 11:53 PM The Jackelinne Center: Please.

10/15, 11:57 PM] The Jackelinne Center: Please Ostee, I will give you my ass next time we meet.

10/15, 11:55 PM Ostee: Maybe after I fuck your ass, after the 10th time I'll give you an extra 20 thousand, jajaja.

10/15, 11:56 PM Ostee: But first you have to let me put my milk up your ass 10 times.

10/15, 11:57 PM The Jackelinne Center: Really.

10/15, 11:57 PM The Jackelinne Center: How bad you are, sometimes you are so rude.

10/15, 11:57 PM The Jackelinne Center: Well, I have to pay rent on Monday.

10/15, 11:57 PM The Jackelinne Center: And I don't have the full money.

10/15, 11:57 PM The Jackelinne Center: Lend me.

10/15, 11:57 PM The Jackelinne Center: And I pay you back.

10/15, 11:58 PM The Jackelinne Center: The money, I know that's nothing to you.

10/15, 11:58 PM The Jackelinne Center: And it's a lot to me.

10/15, 11:58 PM The Jackelinne Center: Help me please.

10/15, 11:59 PM The Jackelinne Center: Excuse me, sorry, but I need your help.

10/15, 11:59 PM Ostee: Here is my answer for you.

I blocked her.

The next afternoon, I unblocked her.

10/16, 2:48 PM Ostee: Do you get the message?

10/16, 2:48 PM Ostee: Don't ask me for money just because I fucked you a couple of times.

10/16, 2:49 PM Ostee: I help girlfriends, I'll give girlfriends money sometimes, but guess what? You are not a girlfriend.

10/16, 8:04 PM The Jackelinne Center: Ok that's fine. Excuse me.

10/16, 8:42 PM Ostee: Okay, now, you know.

I was probably a little ass-holier-than-thou necessary, but I had a feeling that would work with her and that she would still come back for more fucking. I guess I won't know that for sure until I return to Medellin, hopefully sooner than later. Don't ever feel guilty about not giving a puta rent or food money, she's asking 10 other guys at the same time and whether you give her the money or not, is not going to determine whether or not she eats or stays in her apartment, they always work it out. And do you think if she gets the money she will stop asking you? She will take as much as she can get from as many different sources as she can. Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2615575]The Real, the closest El Central Love Motel to the front door of the Veracruz Church. Between the three, the Zona Rosa, the Premiere, and the Real, the Real is the busiest and the most professional. And fun. I haven't found a girl behind the desk or a maid in the Real yet, who won't flirt.[/QUOTE]Stayed at Botero Real for 2.5 months before I went on a trip and then they changed it to short time only. Place is taking a beating with so many people. Had the best room in Centro. Don't believe me. If the room #201 is clean and available or waiting to be cleaned, walk in and look out the large window I had. You can see everything. Some idiot will comment that the view from the Premier Plaza balcony is just as good. Nope. I did not have to share my view. I did not have to leave my room. I could watch the parade brushing my teeth, shaving, in the middle of the night to pee, etc.

Two receptionists. One is hot but married. The other is pretty and I have seen her with a hotel customer in the past. She flirts too much with me and I am sure I could have her but not my type. The oriental eyed cleaning girl is pregnant. There is a really light colored girl with black features that is also hot that I do not know. Sadly, the hot receptionist and the two cleaning girls I find hot will not go with me. They know how many girls I would take when I was there and now when I visit with my temporary 30 minute girlfriends. I do not think they will go with anyone to be honest. I think there is only one girl there that will not flirt. I had fun staying there. Now all the other hotels are ruined for me.

Side note of some interest. There is a group of guys that own Botero Real. Walk down the alley way on the side of the church. Turn left at the casino and the first short time hotel they own that too. Did not know that until the owner said Hello, to me when I took a girl there and he was in the office. Always good to know the owner of the hotel in case a problem arises. They also own the hotel as you leave the park near Nutribara Hotel following the metro, on the left with the huge balcony. One of the owners showed it to me but it was dirty with cockroaches.

I know I can't get everything, but I want to get the best I can. 7 and up in looks are fine. I'll pay more for better service (BBBJ for example).

I've read the forum and have heard of New Life and Zandalay.

Are there clubs similar to HK in Tijuana? I read about La Isla, but any other options?

Any other recommendations? Hablo espanol. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2615571]It's obvious that you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to Americans, with this "USAns" nonsense.
Sadly some people are stupid, with a higher ratio of the same among mongers for whatever reason. One should expect the stupidity to be demonstrated.[/QUOTE]Thanks for proving my point. Case closed.

Gents,

What are chances of finding a finding a wingman for first day orientation (tour of cases in centro) if I am staying in Mansion?

If anyone has any recommendations for an English speaking wingman who can give me a hand for couple of hours to understand the physical lay of land in El Centro casas, please PM me. Thank you.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2615482]I don't think you can buy a prepaid phone at the airport. If you have an unlocked GSM phone that works in the US, it should work in Medellin.

My suggestion is to visit the Mansion bar one evening and see for yourself if you think the atmosphere is worth the higher price for a room that is not up to the standards of most good hotels. You have to pay an entrance fee at the bar.[/QUOTE]So I just go to say bestbuy in the states, buy a unlocked GSM phone, then when I get there it will work? I read online needing to buy a prepaid claro simcard or something?

That is good yo know about the mansion, I thought I had to rent a room to come in. Wanted to scope it out. I am staying at Duparc, which I think is close.

Any other advice for a first timer in Medellin?

This board has been great. I will definitely post a in depth report!

[QUOTE=MedMad;2615178]Does anyone know the two girls on the left in this video?
[URL]https://youtu.be/Nptkz8K9A18[/URL]

They are in the thumbnail, also at 2:01.[/QUOTE]I saw her the other day and when I saw her ass I remembered the other problem huge reason I never went with her. I hate ass implants. They look so damn stupid.

[QUOTE=Margaya;2615741]What are chances of finding a finding a wingman for first day orientation (tour of cases in centro) if I am staying in Mansion?
.[/QUOTE]I usually go thru one time per week these days. We could make a plan. And my Ingles es ok, I zink.

When do you arrive and when do you want to go thru?

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2615750]So I just go to say bestbuy in the states, buy a unlocked GSM phone, then when I get there it will work? I read online needing to buy a prepaid claro simcard or something?

Any other advice for a first timer in Medellin?[/QUOTE]You have to buy a sim card from one of the carriers in Colombia. I think Claro and Tigo are the largest carriers. Ask them to register your phone when you buy the sim card. Take a copy of your passport with you when you go to buy the card. Some people have posted ways to buy a cell service here in the US that works internationally, but I don't have any experience with those. If you plan to buy a phone in the US, I recommend you look on Ebay. I bought one like this and it works fine in Medellin: [URL]https://www.ebay.com/itm/174373371985[/URL].

Be careful picking up chicas around Parque Lleras. Do not pay more than 250,000 COP even for the best looking ones. Don't leave any valuables where a chica can get to them. One from Parque Lleras stole my eyeglasses, of all things. The eyeglasses were old and not worth much. Even the case was cloth.

It is usually best to use ATM's to get cash. If your card issuer charges too much in fees, exchange dollars at a cambio. You can search the internet for "Money exchanges Medellin" to check their websites for their exchange rate. Check [URL]xe.com[/URL] for the current exchange rate and use that as a guide. At the cambios, you should receive within 100 COP of the current rate.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2615862]You have to buy a sim card from one of the carriers in Colombia. I think Claro and Tigo are the largest carriers. Ask them to register your phone when you buy the sim card. Take a copy of your passport with you when you go to buy the card. Some people have posted ways to buy a cell service here in the US that works internationally, but I don't have any experience with those. If you plan to buy a phone in the US, I recommend you look on Ebay. I bought one like this and it works fine in Medellin: [URL]https://www.ebay.com/itm/174373371985[/URL].

Be careful picking up chicas around Parque Lleras. Do not pay more than 250,000 COP even for the best looking ones. Don't leave any valuables where a chica can get to them. One from Parque Lleras stole my eyeglasses, of all things. The eyeglasses were old and not worth much. Even the case was cloth.

It is usually best to use ATM's to get cash. If your card issuer charges too much in fees, exchange dollars at a cambio. You can search the internet for "Money exchanges Medellin" to check their websites for their exchange rate. Check [URL]xe.com[/URL] for the current exchange rate and use that as a guide. At the cambios, you should receive within 100 COP of the current rate.[/QUOTE]Thanks man! My biggest issue so far is worrying about my phone coverage. I fly out 10/31, was going to buy a phone next week for the trip. Good id3 a, I will definitely lock everything up. Do not want anyone snagging my raybans haha.

I was just going to bring usd and convert somewhere there. Is that a ok idea?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2615612]Well if a guy similar to Chavez in Venezuela gets elected I don't see things boding well for tourism, but that's just my opinion.

And a lot of the voters are sick of Duque of the right who can't run again, so there's a good chance somebody from the left might be elected.[/QUOTE]Surf makes a great point.

Venezuela was rockin' back in the day.

Similar to Colombia today actually.

I had an apartment in downtown Caracas.

To me it was the best place on earth, for girls and fun.

Then along came Chavez, and the place went to shit.

Anti-American, economic disaster, high crime, etc.

I had to literally run out of there.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2615592]An anti-American is highly unlikely. Both the left and right are keen to deal with America, albeit in different ways.
Guys on the right like Duque favor the large corporations of the US and other wealthy countries. They have consistently given multinational industrial companies a free hand to exploit land and natural resources.
[/QUOTE]Good to see someone talking sense here. The issue is that a country is labelled as "anti-American" by the US govt and in the US media if they stop allowing USA companies that free hand to plunder all the resources. Just look around the world. Every country that is rich in resources around the world is either a US-sychophant or an enemy of the state. If Colombia were to elect Petro as the next president, he would need to walk a fine line not to upset the apple cart. His party is called "Humane Colombia". Sounds like trouble brewing to me. How dare he put the needs of the people before the needs of the wealthy?

Right, time to get back to playing my new fave game, Mafia City. Haha.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2615862]You have to buy a sim card from one of the carriers in Colombia. I think Claro and Tigo are the largest carriers. Ask them to register your phone when you buy the sim card. Take a copy of your passport with you when you go to buy the card. Some people have posted ways to buy a cell service here in the US that works internationally, but I don't have any experience with those. If you plan to buy a phone in the US, I recommend you look on Ebay. I bought one like this and it works fine in Medellin: [URL]https://www.ebay.com/itm/174373371985[/URL].

Be careful picking up chicas around Parque Lleras. Do not pay more than 250,000 COP even for the best looking ones. Don't leave any valuables where a chica can get to them. One from Parque Lleras stole my eyeglasses, of all things. The eyeglasses were old and not worth much. Even the case was cloth.

It is usually best to use ATM's to get cash. If your card issuer charges too much in fees, exchange dollars at a cambio. You can search the internet for "Money exchanges Medellin" to check their websites for their exchange rate. Check [URL]xe.com[/URL] for the current exchange rate and use that as a guide. At the cambios, you should receive within 100 COP of the current rate.[/QUOTE]I just ordered that exact phone. So do you buy a sim card in the states, do you just register it under a different name? Did you have to go to a phone store for this, or can you buy it at a Walmart or something?

Back in college I used to buy burner phones from CVS little virgin mobile flip phones. This is a lot more complex haha!

What's the guest policy at dam Carlton? Are they a real pain about it?

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2615911]I just ordered that exact phone. So do you buy a sim card in the states, do you just register it under a different name? Did you have to go to a phone store for this, or can you buy it at a Walmart or something?

Back in college I used to buy burner phones from CVS little virgin mobile flip phones. This is a lot more complex haha![/QUOTE]Claro has like 50% of the market in Colombia, so that's your best option. Take a look around the Airport, you might be able to find a kiosk where they can set you up, or the gift shop might be able to do it, otherwise you'll just have to go to any shopping mall and visit one of their stores. You're going to need to show your passport and give them address to register the SIM card- your hotel or Airbnb will work.

What you actually need is just the mobile internet and a phone number to bind some services to. Any communication you're going to be doing in Colombia will be through WhatsApp (at least most of it). You can just setup a Google Voice or some other VOIP service provider that will give you a phone number and setup your WhatsApp to use that number. It will give you an extra layer of privacy.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2615615]His mindset is his business. Like I said, bless him and wish Osteo the best. The point of my post is, members don't need to write about every fucked up self destructive thing they do and post it on the forum for every John, Joe, and Mike to read. Then the readers go down there and act in a similar manner. Eventually its going to have an impact on our travels to the city of Eternal Spring. Osteo seems like a tough guy to say the least, I am sure he could careless about one members suggestion, and I apologize if it seemed like I singled him out to make my point.[/QUOTE]I have several reasons why I disagree.

1. A blister is worth 1000 words. No that's not a typo. It doesn't matter how many times you tell someone they're going to get burned, they won't listen until they get that first blister. People doing inadvisable things and dealing with the consequences is helpful for others.

2. Equal opportunity. I don't recall you suggesting people don't post about BBFS, other drug use, using testosterone shots, or any of the other potentially risky behaviors. Osteo has as much right as all of us to screw up.

3. Those posts are more useful than many. How much useful information is in one of the "had one of my non-pros come over last night, fucked for 5 hours and she didn't ask for anything?" Too many of the posts boil down to "Worship me because I got laid." While his posts also contain that, there are also lessons to be learned.

According to a video posted two days ago by Passport Dog, the local government wants the area to become more family oriented and the working girls banned. In the video it seems to be indeed the case. I am suspicious of his claims for I suspect this is something they are doing for Halloween and once that has passed, everything back to normal. I did not see any other news or comments about this. Any updates would be apricated. I am planning on staying in the area beginning at the end of this year.

Video link: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcB3jAdDrmE[/URL].

I see your point. There isn't anyone like Chavez or even Maduro with national support. Gustavo Petro is the closest Colombian equivalent but in spite of his rebel guerilla past he doesn't support radical land reform or expropriation of corporate assets. I don't honestly think the tourism sector is on Petro's radar because it is such a small part of the economy compared to agriculture, mining, and manufacturing. Over a four year term of a far left administration I would not be surprised to see the cost of chain lodging and airfares increase because of the likelihood of tax increases. I agree there is quite a lot of Duque fatigue. Mayor Quintero had a viable path to be a liberal President but he self destructed with a series of head scratching moves with the public utilities. As a political figure he is a dead man walking.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2615612]Well if a guy similar to Chavez in Venezuela gets elected I don't see things boding well for tourism, but that's just my opinion.

And a lot of the voters are sick of Duque of the right who can't run again, so there's a good chance somebody from the left might be elected.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2615911]I just ordered that exact phone. So do you buy a sim card in the states, do you just register it under a different name? Did you have to go to a phone store for this, or can you buy it at a Walmart or something?

Back in college I used to buy burner phones from CVS little virgin mobile flip phones. This is a lot more complex haha![/QUOTE]You have to buy a sim card in Colombia and any other country where you plan to use the phone. A card with some minutes and data is less than $5 in Medellin. You have to register it under the name on your passport. I think the Exito on Calle 10 in Poblado sells sim cards on the second floor. Exito is similar to Walmart.

The phone you ordered looks like the back doesn't come off to gain access to the sim slots. Looking at the front, around the lower right corner there is a little slot where you can use your thumb nail or something similar to separate the back from the phone.

Has anyone used Pasion Prepagos? Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2615986]You have to buy a sim card in Colombia and any other country where you plan to use the phone. A card with some minutes and data is less than $5 in Medellin. You have to register it under the name on your passport. I think the Exito on Calle 10 in Poblado sells sim cards on the second floor. Exito is similar to Walmart.

The phone you ordered looks like the back doesn't come off to gain access to the sim slots. Looking at the front, around the lower right corner there is a little slot where you can use your thumb nail or something similar to separate the back from the phone.[/QUOTE]In the states then, where did you buy the sim card?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2615986]You have to buy a sim card in Colombia and any other country where you plan to use the phone. A card with some minutes and data is less than $5 in Medellin. You have to register it under the name on your passport. I think the Exito on Calle 10 in Poblado sells sim cards on the second floor. Exito is similar to Walmart..[/QUOTE]The Exito on Calle 10 in Poblado sells lots of cell phones with representaives of the vendors such as Samsung and others working there as well. The phone section is located on the first floor by the main entrance from the parking structure. I know there has been a lot of talk about guys buying phones in the States and than buying a SIM card in Colombia.

I advise against this. The phones are just as cheap in Colombia, and if you buy a phone in Colombia it should be glitch free and the vendors will totally set you up. And the data plans like you mention are cheap.

And you can buy a very basic cheap smart phone for as low as 200 K in Centro all set up with Whatsapp ready to go.

I bring this up for some to consider, especially for guys like me who are not technically savvy.

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2615935]According to a video posted two days ago by Passport Dog, the local government wants the area to become more family oriented and the working girls banned. In the video it seems to be indeed the case. I am suspicious of his claims for I suspect this is something they are doing for Halloween and once that has passed, everything back to normal. I did not see any other news or comments about this. Any updates would be apricated. I am planning on staying in the area beginning at the end of this year.

Video link: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcB3jAdDrmE[/URL].[/QUOTE]That video is garbage. He is trying to discourage people so they will pay him for a tour.

He should try harder to pronounce the park's name correctly because it would make him seem more credible as a guide or observer if that is what he is trying to do. It doesn't much matter to me personally whether or not the park is "over" as he said. For those who are interested in the Lleras scene, I don't think you have much to worry about. The worst case scenario is the vendor tents and police restrictions will only move the scene and the bars that support it a few streets away. Most of the Lleras businesses have been shuttered since the pandemic anyway. Wherever the punters go the bars and girls will follow, and wherever the bars and girls go the punters will follow.

Mayor Quintero doesn't seem to be a very strategic decision maker based on his history since he was elected. In this case, I wonder if the idea is once the girls and punters are gone restaurants and craft shops catering to families are going to line up to pay Poblado rents. If that were to happen, and I highly doubt it will, how would these business fund their expenses selling bandejas paisa and coconut lemonades to families?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2616125]That video is garbage. He is trying to discourage people so they will pay him for a tour.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2616125]That video is garbage. He is trying to discourage people so they will pay him for a tour.[/QUOTE]You k ow what my amiga told me the same thing. She said they were cracking down as well. Maybe some truth to thus as well.

I keep hearing don't pay more than 200 -250 mil pesos, is that per HR or date or night?

Please specify haha.

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2615935]According to a video posted two days ago by Passport Dog, the local government wants the area to become more family oriented and the working girls banned. In the video it seems to be indeed the case. I am suspicious of his claims for I suspect this is something they are doing for Halloween and once that has passed, everything back to normal. I did not see any other news or comments about this. Any updates would be apricated. I am planning on staying in the area beginning at the end of this year.

Video link: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcB3jAdDrmE[/URL].[/QUOTE]How could anyone watch him for more than 30 seconds? I managed 2 minutes and that was a struggle.

I don't know what the rest of the video shows, but towards the beginning he's just following around normal girls and it looks to be fairly early. If you want to show me there are no more working girls in Parque Lleras, do it at 11 pm, not 8 pm when the girls haven't shown up yet.

As for making it more family friendly, I'm not sure there's a big push to make discos and dance clubs pumping out music at 110 decibels more attractive to children. Personally I've never been in a night club at 2 am and thought "what would really make this place great is a bunch of screaming children."

And have you ever experienced Halloween in Parque Lleras? It's damn near impossible to tell which ones are the hookers.

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2615935]According to a video posted two days ago by Passport Dog, the local government wants the area to become more family oriented and the working girls banned. In the video it seems to be indeed the case. I am suspicious of his claims for I suspect this is something they are doing for Halloween and once that has passed, everything back to normal. I did not see any other news or comments about this. Any updates would be apricated. I am planning on staying in the area beginning at the end of this year.

Video link: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcB3jAdDrmE[/URL].[/QUOTE]According to a few girls I know from the scene, it seems to be correct. They want to remove the girls from there soon.

Anyways, if they have to go away from there, I am pretty sure an new location will rise-up.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2616226]You k ow what my amiga told me the same thing. She said they were cracking down as well. Maybe some truth to thus as well.[/QUOTE]Is anyone there now that can confirm this? I have a trip planned for 10/31-11/5, wondering if I should pick another destination?

[QUOTE=Iponux;2616229]I keep hearing don't pay more than 200 -250 mil pesos, is that per HR or date or night?

Please specify haha.[/QUOTE]Pay what you want. That's what everyone else, including the guys who keep saying not to pay more than 200-250 k, does.

If a girl asks for more than you're willing to pay, politely tell her the price you pay, thank her for her time and move on.

As for how long, that also depends on you. Some guys want the girl to leave as soon as they're finished. Some guys like for the girl to hang around. If you want her to stay all night, you'll usually have to pay more than 250 k. However, if you're paying 200-250 k, and you want the girl to stay for more than 60 minutes, it's often not going to be a problem.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2616249]How could anyone watch him for more than 30 seconds? I managed 2 minutes and that was a struggle.

I don't know what the rest of the video shows, but towards the beginning he's just following around normal girls and it looks to be fairly early. If you want to show me there are no more working girls in Parque Lleras, do it at 11 pm, not 8 pm when the girls haven't shown up yet.

As for making it more family friendly, I'm not sure there's a big push to make discos and dance clubs pumping out music at 110 decibels more attractive to children. Personally I've never been in a night club at 2 am and thought "what would really make this place great is a bunch of screaming children."

And have you ever experienced Halloween in Parque Lleras? It's damn near impossible to tell which ones are the hookers.[/QUOTE]To funny he's a clown, the funniest part is where he says he "lost" the girl on the bus} Lost} on a small bus! When clearly in video she pretty much told him to funk off!

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2615935]According to a video posted two days ago by Passport Dog, the local government wants the area to become more family oriented and the working girls banned. In the video it seems to be indeed the case. I am suspicious of his claims for I suspect this is something they are doing for Halloween and once that has passed, everything back to normal. I did not see any other news or comments about this. Any updates would be apricated. I am planning on staying in the area beginning at the end of this year.

Video link: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcB3jAdDrmE[/URL].[/QUOTE]Well, I did a more through search (note to self, use Spanish next time) of the local news and found some hits. About four months ago articles began to appear about the issues in the area in regards to sex workers. Then last week, a really stupid Dutchman leads his lady in skimpy lingerie on a chain through the area for a web cam stunt, adding yet more fuel to this fire. So, now we have an official push by the government to return the area back the way it was before the invasion of dirty foreigners and working girls. Sign, I was looking forward to sitting at a decent bar and watching the action, maybe even take a girl or two of other plans fell through.

Link to the idiot Dutchman: [URL]https://es.noticias.yahoo.com/alcalde-medell%C3%ADn-pide-expulsi%C3%B3n-holand%C3%A9s-002523970.html[/URL].

You make a post warning guys to avoid a girl because of a police underage set-up. But you only supply one very poorly angled face shot which does not help anyone. The guys that have been with her can tell who she is and had no problems with her so will see her again (me for one). The guys who need to know the most are the new guys who can not use that picture to identify her.

The weakest link in any chain will break. It could have been the taxi driver, receptionist, room cleaner, the person in the room next door, or the girl you were with. I suspect it was not the girl you accused. If she was not the one you should try your very best to act like an adult man and make a correction. Example, I accused the cane guy of getting the police. I was so sure because he said it in the hotel lobby, went to the outside window looking for police, and then yelled it going down the stairs. But was informed later by the receptionist and the cane guy's buddy who is a board member here that she was the one who got the police involved.

You post endless trivial things such as pictures of mostly the same girl over and over. Truthfully, I have no idea because no faces are showing. You post a long Whatsapp text about a girl asking for money. You post about your car and even supply pictures for god knows what reason. How shallow are you exactly?

You finally have a chance to post some real information but refuse to do so because people will make fun of you, and yet you are not afraid to die and live your life blah blah blah. You are a class act. Myself and others called you out and hurt your feelings so you acting like a child who will not let us play with your toys. My guess is that you act like you post. You rubbed someone the wrong way and they called the police just to piss you off and not to get money. The police once there just decided to make their visit worthwhile. Basically, was not planned but too good a chance to pass up since they spotted the drugs and knew by your persona that they had a sucker. You try to show off like a teeny-bopper you have girls, drugs, money, sports car on this site. Police took note of things at your place and stuff I am sure that came out of your mouth. In essence, in the case of "Who don't it" - You did it. Case solved.

I will share. I was set up twice with the young girl scenario in the Philippines. First time was real CDIG (their FBI) when the caught me outside my apartment complex with a girl. They let me go after 10 hours right before the next shift was to start because nothing happened. Few days later found out it was a girl I had been with 5 times and her sister twice. She told me she was mad because I would not take any of the age 25+ girls she offered. That was the only reason. Nothing I did or had showed I had money. I used the old Nokia 3310 for 3 years. Some of you guys are laughing because you know it. All the girls had a better phone than I had.

Second time was a girl who would introduce me to friends but she was stopping that and wanted a large payday. She said the girl I was with was young and she told her parents and they will call the police unless money is paid. It was all a bluff but stressful as hell none the less. She kept this up for days. I was targeted because "you are the company you keep". But none were my buddies but the "bamboo hotline" knew we all knew each other and vice versa. My neighbor got set-up 2-3 times. Another guy I knew and spoke to from time to time was set-up 3 times. He would give money if the girls said their mommy was sick in the hospital. My only buddy also was being threatened at the same time using the same girl. I told him I would take care of it and do nothing because I was there and he was out of the country safe. Stupid at $$ buddy sent her some money which caused her to try longer and harder on me. That is why I do not buddy up with guys.

[QUOTE=Surinamer;2616250]According to a few girls I know from the scene, it seems to be correct. They want to remove the girls from there soon.

Anyways, if they have to go away from there, I am pretty sure an new location will rise-up.[/QUOTE]I will be in Medellin for Halloween and will share my findings about how the park looked. Scant information about the park's fundamental change aside from the YT video. There was some publicity stunt with a girl walking around in lingerie on the Medellin news that caused a commotion, mention of the park overrun with freelancers in the local media, and the mention of an underage curfew.

More power to people that want to live in a clean, peaceful city, but if it is true, a bummer to the monger community. If true, I. E. A draconian clamp down on street freelancers, I see that as a mistake. There must be several interested parties at play from the hotels, the restaurants, the bars that would counter the call to remove freelancers. Parque Lleras' strategic advantage is those 3 elements plus the access to cheap, easy sex. Take the cheap and / or easy away and you have another nice, but otherwise forgettable part in a city no one will normally think of, or consider once travel resumes to normal. It makes me got to wonder, if they sacrificed the tourist magnet of the street trade, will the local Colombians fill the void.

For me, I booked a room near to Parque Lleras because it provides me another option. I don't want to go to far from my hotel at midnight? Casas are closed at 8 pm? Then a stroll around the park with a quick, short walk back to the hotel will suffice. Take away cheap and easy, and all the hotels in the area are going to go bankrupt.

I don't believe Parque should turn into a cesspool, but the model has been built up and proven successful. Perhaps with the right adjustment will help, but usually when government regulates business, the result is less than amazing.

If you are not willing or able to source girls from locations other than Parque Lleras I think you should cancel your visit.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2616263]Is anyone there now that can confirm this? I have a trip planned for 10/31-11/5, wondering if I should pick another destination?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2616320]Well, I did a more through search (note to self, use Spanish next time) of the local news and found some hits. About four months ago articles began to appear about the issues in the area in regards to sex workers. Then last week, a really stupid Dutchman leads his lady in skimpy lingerie on a chain through the area for a web cam stunt, adding yet more fuel to this fire. So, now we have an official push by the government to return the area back the way it was before the invasion of dirty foreigners and working girls. Sign, I was looking forward to sitting at a decent bar and watching the action, maybe even take a girl or two of other plans fell through.

Link to the idiot Dutchman: [URL]https://es.noticias.yahoo.com/alcalde-medell%C3%ADn-pide-expulsi%C3%B3n-holand%C3%A9s-002523970.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]I wouldn't worry too much about it. These sort of things happen all the time. Everyone gets all excited for a few weeks and then it's all forgotten.

A few years back some gringo posted a video smoking a joint on the Metrocable. There was a big uproar about disrespecting the culture. Other than him being kicked out of Colombia nothing changed.

Also a few years back some gringo was making videos, teaching guys how to get Colombian women. Mostly he was telling people to insult the women, grab them, grope them. Again a lot of noise but the only action taken was the police taking him to the airport and telling him he's not welcome to return.

Four years ago the Mayor of Cartagena said he was going to cancel the Exxxotica convention, which is an annual webcam and porn convention. He made a lot of noise about drugs and prostitution, but the convention went on as scheduled and still happens every year.

Last year it was 3 people caught faking Covid test results. Only noticeable change was the removal of the 3 from Colombia.

For the most part the working girls in Parque Lleras are unobtrusive. They aren't in your face, or grabbing guys. They hang out in small groups and say Hello, to passing gringos.

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2616501]I will be in Medellin for Halloween and will share my findings about how the park looked. Scant information about the park's fundamental change aside from the YT video. There was some publicity stunt with a girl walking around in lingerie on the Medellin news that caused a commotion, mention of the park overrun with freelancers in the local media, and the mention of an underage curfew.

More power to people that want to live in a clean, peaceful city, but if it is true, a bummer to the monger community. If true, I. E. A draconian clamp down on street freelancers, I see that as a mistake. There must be several interested parties at play from the hotels, the restaurants, the bars that would counter the call to remove freelancers. Parque Lleras' strategic advantage is those 3 elements plus the access to cheap, easy sex. Take the cheap and / or easy away and you have another nice, but otherwise forgettable part in a city no one will normally think of, or consider once travel resumes to normal. It makes me got to wonder, if they sacrificed the tourist magnet of the street trade, will the local Colombians fill the void..[/QUOTE]I'm just remembering something else. I believe it was 5 or 6 years ago that they decided to remove all the prostitutes from the park. It was sometime before I first went to Medellin. I don't know how successful they were, or how long it lasted, but it certainly wasn't a permanent change.

YouTube Link. Skip to 6:30 for two stories about Parque Lleras.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZnRqeyBHrs[/URL]

Also, condolences to the headline of the story. Two guys were killed. They were probably pussy hounds, too.

First story of 6:30 is mention of the Dutch guy that strolled with a girl on a leash in the park. It is doubtful his actions was either the catalyst or straw that broke the camel's back, but he did not help. His attempt at social media clout may get him kicked out of Colombia. Why would a Dutch dude brag about prostitution when he comes from a country dripping with prostitution? Dunno.

Second story is the arrival of the tents that the YouTuber selling "tour services" mentioned of. Probably not the end of street life (so don't rush off to buy your tour tickets just yet), but an attempt at change. The arrival of the tents is a push to make the area more family friendly with the sale of food, something mentioned several times on this board and in the newspapers. From what I could see from the tourist's video, it looked like the same type of knick knacks that you get at a fruit fest anywhere in the world.

If like most cities with street fair, the tents will be there for a while, then gone. There there. Then gone. Repeat. Repeat. It will probably be luck of the draw of when you visit. You go when the tents are there, then probably street lancers in the surround streets or bars. If they are not there, business as usual in the park.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2615793]I saw her the other day and when I saw her ass I remembered the other problem huge reason I never went with her. I hate ass implants. They look so damn stupid.[/QUOTE]LOL yea, some of them look ridiculous. Skinny thighs with a huge fake booty LOL.

[QUOTE=Bdd1124;2612526]Nice hotel have stayed several times guest policy is in place need cedula to get her in but I think it is like 100 k if they stop you at the elevators.[/QUOTE]I am booked there. It's definitely chica friendly? If I have more than 1 day they told me 130 K extra per person.

It looks like a awesome location which is why I choose it. No pool kind of sucks though.

I was debating switching to energy living, but it looks like it's far from parque Lleras.

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2616320]Well, I did a more through search (note to self, use Spanish next time) of the local news and found some hits.
.[/QUOTE]I do not know if you already do this or not but I seem to get better results related to local news in Colombian when I change my Google region search settings to Colombia.

To do so: From the home page of Google go: Settings. Search Settings. Scroll down to find Regions Settings. Expand that and find Colombia click on it - then hit save - then it goes back to the home page and shows this below the search box and and the seach buttons - Google offered in: Espaol (Latinoamrica), so you can search locally in Colombia and in Spanish.

(when you want to change it back it is the same process but in the list if regions it has at the top "Current Region" so you do not have to go looking for USA or whatever your home country is.

Again you may already be doing this but it cuts out all the stupid shit that can come up like the moslty US based news sources reporting or like Columbia South Carolina , Columbia University etc

Hi!

What is the best area / type of establishment / venues to meet older paisas? 30-40 ish. I'm hoping to avoid El centro and there must be a few clubs / bars / casas where the older prepagos tend to congregate?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2616597]I'm just remembering something else. I believe it was 5 or 6 years ago that they decided to remove all the prostitutes from the park. It was sometime before I first went to Medellin. I don't know how successful they were, or how long it lasted, but it certainly wasn't a permanent change.[/QUOTE]I think it is still in effect. They prohibited soliciting and alcohol consumption "in the park". The park is a very small area. The prostitutes and drinkers just moved to the sidewalks around and near the park. The last few times I have been there, I have not observed anyone soliciting or drinking alcohol in the park.

I just landed in Medellin from Mexico City where I had loads of fun with both escorts and normie mexicanas / gringas. Mexico city seems quite safe compared to Medellin. I stayed in an Airbnb with no doorman / security and never had issues with any of the girls. I met a lot of foreigners there and never heard of anyone getting drugged / robbed / pickpocketed or anything like that. I felt so safe that I often walked around in the middle of the night tipsy with airpods in my ears basically being deaf (probably a dumb thing to do in any city but you get the idea). The only people who might try to rob / extort you are the police but you can usually see them early enough and cross to the other side of the road hahaha.

In any case, I'll only be here for the next four days and would like to fuck a couple / several girls. Like the title says I am solo, speak barely any Spanish, have never been to Colombia before, and have zero experience with SW's. Additionally, the Airbnb I booked explicitly prohibits bringing prostitutes (they even made me sign a piece of paper haha) so I can't bring girls there. Should had explicitly asked before booking, but didn't because their description mentioned that you could bring guests. Very sneaky of them.

So the remaining options seem to be mileroticos / prepagos + short term love hotels and hope not all of them are bait& switches, or just visiting casas.

I've been compiling a list of casas; zandaly, tantra and new life seem to be the most popular. Also clubs like La Isla although my lack of Spanish might be a problem in a loud environment?

I'm probably just being a pussy and overthinking it, but any advice would be most welcome!

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2616320]Well, I did a more through search...[/QUOTE]I read that it was the girl's idea to promote her online content. She is a web cam model or something.

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2616501]..I see that as a mistake. ..[/QUOTE]How about making it a RLD?

[QUOTE=NIO400;2615239]If anyone want girlfriendly App directly on the Action I recommend this App. The real location is [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/QT3KtrfWfGp3whtU9[/URL].

Airbnb will give you fake location. No human security in entrance, only electronic access code to the doors.

Type "WalkScore 100 in Poblado ♥ 150 Mb WiFi ●Wash+Dryer" on search or use the link.

[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/43323837?source_impression_id=p3_1634413667_R77bGp3l9MLuPVLm&guests=1&adults=1[/URL]

I didn't like the street girls so I moved on. Beside you walk in this hill area like a goat. Girls will talk to you as soon as you go down from the App after 8 PM.[/QUOTE]It's funny, I'm sitting here in this exact Airbnb as I read your post. I was like, this is it. But I can confirm everything you just posted. I arrived today. Stepped outside to meet the food delivery guy. It was 10 pm I was only out there for 3 minutes max before a beautiful chica approached. Got her WhatsApp. She'll be over after I eat.

Only downside is it's loud / noisy here. But that doesn't bother me much. Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2616701]I think it is still in effect. They prohibited soliciting and alcohol consumption "in the park". The park is a very small area. The prostitutes and drinkers just moved to the sidewalks around and near the park. The last few times I have been there, I have not observed anyone soliciting or drinking alcohol in the park.[/QUOTE]I saw quite a few in the park in June. I know the no drinking in the park dates back at least 4 years. Had a cop tell me we couldn't drink in the park, so we walked across the street and sat down to finish our beers.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2616731]How about making it a RLD?[/QUOTE]Such as opening offices on river? Interesting thought.

I went to eat at 37 Park and walked around for a bit after ( 11 pm). I was not impressed. I know its Wednesday but still. Most chicas were 6 with a couple 7's. Wanted 200-300 k. I wasn't planning on mongering and they didn't even come close to changing my mind.

I'm working 10 girls on FB and plan on checking out Centro tomorrow or Friday.

I know a guy first hand very recently left Medellin and Migracion searched his phone for suspicious photos. Considering my recent events I very much appreciated his Intel and I moved all my photos to the Cloud such as Google Photos or OneDrive before I left Colombia. Takes a couple of minutes and then you have up to 30 or 60 days to restore them back. The fotos did not all restore to the way I had them organized but at least all my photos we're all still there.

All my photos are legal and all the girls are legal age but that is not enough to keep you out of trouble, initially. The most foolproof method would be not to have any photos but that's not going to happen with me, so save your breath.

In fact, while we're on the topic I cannot think of many human endeavors more futile than offering advice when none was asked for. If you think about it, how often have you followed unsolicited advice? Very rarely would be the normal answer, and even when you ask for advice you get so much varied and different responses on a board like this that you probably only end up paying attention to what? 1%, 5%, maybe 10% at the most? I think it often says more about people giving the advice and their need for self validation.

I'm the person who I want to be. Life is not perfect, there will be speed bumps, but I am happier than I've ever been any other time in my life and I keep getting happier. Suggesting change or like my ex-wife would say, I could change because I'm leaving an amoral life really falls on deaf ears because why would I want to be less happy?

Anywho, speaking of photos I thought I lost a few of these but they were just in a different spot when I restored them from the Cloud.

I posted about this Ground Zero chica once already because of her fantastic lips and blowjob abilities. I also give her body a 9. All the photos are her. She gave the best doggy that I had last trip. She got a little shy when I tried to take a photo of her maxed out in perrito position, with her ass spread as far as she could, head down as low as it would go, and her legs almost in a full split while in doggy. You can still tell from the position shown that she's a natural at it. Her super tight nineteen-year-old pussy didn't hurt either.

A couple of other points worth mentioning, I think I've said it here before, trannies give the best Intel in any public mongering venue. Everything from who's hot, who's not and dangers and pitfalls to avoid. To wit, the chica in these photos, her brother or sister if you want to look at it that way is a tranny and that's how I hooked up with her. After he learned then I was not going to have sex with a tranny he steered me directly toward his sister, and she was hawt as fuck, the girl in these fotos.

She was a little smelly one time, bit not the dreaded fishy twat. I suggested she jump in the shower for a couple of minutes with some soap and she took absolutely no offense in fact I've never had a girl in Medellin mind if I ask her to do a quick 3-point wash (pits and crotch), also known as a French douche, and also known as a blank bath using a word that is not allowed here by admin.

One time I had a girl tell me my skin was saggy after she got out of the shower that I had suggested. We both had a good laugh about it I think that was her way of getting back at me a little bit but it was funny.

I don't believe in making plans around such activities but I will definitely welcome the chance to bang this puta again. She's also the one I said that I don't trust but that doesn't mean you can't have a good time even with a girl you don't trust. You just don't put yourself in a position where she can take advantage of you, in other words, don't turn your back on your stuff when she's in the room. Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=TijTraveler;2616766]I went to eat at 37 Park and walked around for a bit after ( 11 pm). I was not impressed. I know its Wednesday but still. Most chicas were 6 with a couple 7's. Wanted 200-300 k. I wasn't planning on mongering and they didn't even come close to changing my mind.

I'm working 10 girls on FB and plan on checking out Centro tomorrow or Friday.[/QUOTE]I am coming for my first trip on 10/31 , pretty excited and nervous at the same time. I used to go to Montreal a lot. I started to go to DR. This will be my first time in Medellin. The post from passport guy about Lleras has me thinking I should not have booked near Lleras, but I think it will still be a lot of fun.

I plan on roaming the malls the first day to collect WhatsApp's, that always works well for me. I am 35, and decent looking. I do well at home but never been with a Colombian. So I figured the best place is Colombia hahah.

I just wanted to thank everyone that posts here. It helped me pick my area, hotel, phone, you all have helped me more than you can imagine. I am going to return the favor by posting a good report.

If anyone is there between 10/31 - 11/5, let me know.

As always all tips of places I should go is appreciated.

My hotel said 1 guest per day is free, additional is 130 k. I saw Ibiza motel is 105 k and has a pole in the room, anyone been there? Looks good for my 2nd or 3rd girl each day.

I forgot to ask, any prepagos websites you guys think are best? I know in Montreal I used euphoria, but some other sites there post fake pics. Is that a issue in Medellin?

[QUOTE=TijTraveler;2616766]I went to eat at 37 Park and walked around for a bit after ( 11 pm). I was not impressed. I know its Wednesday but still. Most chicas were 6 with a couple 7's. Wanted 200-300 k. I wasn't planning on mongering and they didn't even come close to changing my mind.

I'm working 10 girls on FB and plan on checking out Centro tomorrow or Friday.[/QUOTE]Damn 6's don't deserve 200 k+, I wonder if Cartagena has gotten just as bad.

Continuin on the theme of minors and vigilant neighbours.

I had a call from the owner of the aprtment that I rent. He said that the neighbours had told him that I had some students in the apartment and that, not only wss it against the house rules, but that I must be very carefukl because I can get in to a lot of trouble.

I had to remind him that I live with 4 other people, 3 of whom are children, and that if they had brought back adults to play with instead of their young friends, then that would have been more of a concern. Hehe.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2616597]I'm just remembering something else. I believe it was 5 or 6 years ago that they decided to remove all the prostitutes from the park. It was sometime before I first went to Medellin. I don't know how successful they were, or how long it lasted, but it certainly wasn't a permanent change.[/QUOTE]It may be possible that there was some backlash from the business establishments around the park regarding the prostitutes. Parque Lleras is the established "tourist" venue or Zona Rosa for Medellin as called out on the street signs leading up to it on Calle 10.

The prostitutes of LLeras are an attraction of the park for foreign visitors that want to see what some Colombian prostitutes look like. LOL if they only knew, and if they weren't allowed, it would lose some of its it's allure, hence my theory that there may of been some backlash from the establishments around the park, not that they should be banned, but allowed.

I can remember while attending classes at EAFIT that Parque LLeras always came up with discussions of the prostitutes working there. Yet they never mentioned any of the other monger destinations such as Centro.

Maybe I'm all wet on this.

I don't frequent Parque Lleras often but the few times I have been there I have enjoyed the establishments that offer live music. One place had a great salsa band and was full of mostly colombians dancing and dining. Other places also offered live entertainment with mostly tourist having a good time. I would welcome the cleanup of the park of the prostitutes roaming the streets looking for Johns. It only brings drug dealers and thiefs to the area. The sorounding establishments will do just fine without them. Hopefully the Colombian authorities take stronger action in lleras before it becomes another el centro.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2617029]It may be possible that there was some backlash from the business establishments around the park regarding the prostitutes. Parque Lleras is the established "tourist" venue or Zona Rosa for Medellin as called out on the street signs leading up to it on Calle 10.

The prostitutes of LLeras are an attraction of the park for foreign visitors that want to see what some Colombian prostitutes look like. LOL if they only knew, and if they weren't allowed, it would lose some of its it's allure, hence my theory that there may of been some backlash from the establishments around the park, not that they should be banned, but allowed.

I can remember while attending classes at EAFIT that Parque LLeras always came up with discussions of the prostitutes working there. Yet they never mentioned any of the other monger destinations such as Centro.

Maybe I'm all wet on this.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2617029]Parque Lleras is the established "tourist" venue or Zona Rosa for Medellin as called out on the street signs leading up to it on Calle 10.
The prostitutes of LLeras are an attraction of the park for foreign visitors.[/QUOTE]I must confess that I have not been to Lleras in along time, but from memory that % of revellers in lleras that are foreigners was very low. The foreigners tended to go to a small handfull of places, but there were streets packed full of clubs and bars of Colombians. So I am not sure how much Poblado or Lleras really needs the foreigners.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2616968]If anyone is there between 10/31 - 11/5, let me know.[/QUOTE]ColomboAnthony, I'll be there 11/1 - 11/8. Staying at Hotel M. For some reason, I don't have the option to PM you. If you are able to PM me, send me a message. Perhaps we can meet up.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2616968]...My hotel said 1 guest per day is free, additional is 130 k. I saw Ibiza motel is 105 k and has a pole in the room, anyone been there? Looks good for my 2nd or 3rd girl each day.[/QUOTE]Can you please give us the name of this hotel that restricted you to one free guest per day? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2617075]Can you please give us the name of this hotel that restricted you to one free guest per day? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hotel Du Park, however I think they quoting him a higher price on 2 Ed guest, could be wrong but I think it's 50 or 70 k if I remember right, nice hotel, get the balcony rooms, I'm sure it's one of them hotels best to book directly instead of third party, if not book directly I think they " try" to charge you even for first quest (if my memory is correct) but guys always make sure you book room for 2 people! Travel safe!

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2617075]Can you please give us the name of this hotel that restricted you to one free guest per day? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hotel duparc. First guest free, every other one is 130 k.

Maybe I made a bad choice there LOL.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2616972]I forgot to ask, any prepagos websites you guys think are best? I know in Montreal I used euphoria, but some other sites there post fake pics. Is that a issue in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Photoprepagos and Mileriticos are probably your best bet.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2616923]In fact, while we're on the topic I cannot think of many human endeavors more futile than offering advice when none was asked for. If you think about it, how often have you followed unsolicited advice? Very rarely would be the normal answer, and even when you ask for advice you get so much varied and different responses on a board like this that you probably only end up paying attention to what? 1%, 5%, maybe 10% at the most? I think it often says more about people giving the advice and their need for self validation.[/QUOTE]Giving unsolicited advice, especially on a board like this is an incredibly productive endeavor. You should recognize that since your posts almost always contain unsolicited advice.

If I give advice based upon what I read in one post, it's not just intended for the person I'm responding to. In many cases I realize the poster would never accept advice from me. However, there are dozens of others reading the board and 1 or more might find the advice helpful. Even the most experienced monger still has much to learn.

However, learning requires giving up the notion that you already know everything.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2616923]I know a guy first hand very recently left Medellin...[/QUOTE]Nice pics brother. She's def got a body on her. Was she a working girl or someone you just gamed out in the wild? If she was a pro, how much was she? I've never been to Colombia, but am eager to go after a buddy of mine recently returned from Medellin, although he was there with his fiance and didn't monger, he said the place was amazing as far as everything else goes.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2617038]I don't frequent Parque Lleras often but the few times I have been there I have enjoyed the establishments that offer live music. One place had a great salsa band and was full of mostly colombians dancing and dining. Other places also offered live entertainment with mostly tourist having a good time. I would welcome the cleanup of the park of the prostitutes roaming the streets looking for Johns. It only brings drug dealers and thiefs to the area. The sorounding establishments will do just fine without them. Hopefully the Colombian authorities take stronger action in lleras before it becomes another el centro.

.[/QUOTE]Yea, and then the weekend warriors will flock to veracruz and the perimeter of calle 47-carr 45 , hell even walking around new life / aikeme these days looks like some parts of nyc with all the gringos. I for one am a full supporter of the gringo containment area known as lleras:

Been doing strictly casas lately, one or two a day for the past month. It's the best place to monger tbh, gotten sick of the centro st bullshit, they are getting too seasoned and don't have incentive to provide good service for fear of getting fired like casa girls, though I do have my regualrs don't get me wrong.

At casas after a few sessions you get contact info and sesh at your place. . just had a BBFS for 200 k, she had school in the am, skipped work, came at 3 pm, sex, sex, dinner, sex, taxi home. Not mentioning the casa she's from because of all the gossipy girdies we've had here on the past, with mongers showing putas these posts. Smh.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2617240]Yea, and then the weekend warriors will flock to veracruz and the perimeter of calle 47-carr 45 , hell even walking around new life / aikeme these days looks like some parts of nyc with all the gringos. I for one am a full supporter of the gringo containment area known as lleras:

Been doing strictly casas lately, one or two a day for the past month. It's the best place to monger tbh, gotten sick of the centro st bullshit, they are getting too seasoned and don't have incentive to provide good service for fear of getting fired like casa girls, though I do have my regualrs don't get me wrong.

At casas after a few sessions you get contact info and sesh at your place. . just had a BBFS for 200 k, she had school in the am, skipped work, came at 3 pm, sex, sex, dinner, sex, taxi home. Not mentioning the casa she's from because of all the gossipy girdies we've had here on the past, with mongers showing putas these posts. Smh.[/QUOTE]Medellin over the past six months has been over-run with foreigners because Asia has been shut down, and the outfall as you mention is there are groups of what I call "gringo hunters", the seasoned ones you mentioned charging higher prices and giving shitty service because they can get away with it with the foreigners, but the locals won't tolerate it, albeit there are still plenty of good servicing chicas available to be found in Centro.

The good news though, and hopefully is a success, is that Thailand is opening up next month, and if successful, and not a bust like Phuket, will be welcome news. And hopefully the Phillipines will open up next year sometime as well.

Very wishful thinking perhaps on my part as COVID has been so unpredictable, but if and when Asia opens back up, hopefully this will result in less foreigners coming to Medellin, and a subsequent adjustment of attitudes and pricing that has occurred within the last six months in Medellin.

Prime time in Medellin was earlier this year before the onslaught of newbie mongers paying too much and polluting lots of the Chicas working Centro.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2617078]Hotel duparc. First guest free, every other one is 130 k.

Maybe I made a bad choice there LOL.[/QUOTE]I just checked in here today also.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2617240]Yea, and then the weekend warriors will flock to veracruz and the perimeter of calle 47-carr 45 , hell even walking around new life / aikeme these days looks like some parts of nyc with all the gringos. I for one am a full supporter of the gringo containment area known as lleras:

Been doing strictly casas lately, one or two a day for the past month. It's the best place to monger tbh, gotten sick of the centro st bullshit, they are getting too seasoned and don't have incentive to provide good service for fear of getting fired like casa girls, though I do have my regulars don't get me wrong.

At casas after a few sessions you get contact info and sesh at your place. . just had a BBFS for 200 k, she had school in the am, skipped work, came at 3 pm, sex, sex, dinner, sex, taxi home. Not mentioning the casa she's from because of all the gossipy girdies we've had here on the past, with mongers showing putas these posts. Smh.[/QUOTE]What casas are your favorites Johnny?

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2617240]Yea, and then the weekend warriors will flock to veracruz and the perimeter of calle 47-carr 45 , hell even walking around new life / aikeme these days looks like some parts of nyc with all the gringos. I for one am a full supporter of the gringo containment area known as lleras:

Been doing strictly casas lately, one or two a day for the past month. It's the best place to monger tbh, gotten sick of the centro st bullshit, they are getting too seasoned and don't have incentive to provide good service for fear of getting fired like casa girls, though I do have my regualrs don't get me wrong.

At casas after a few sessions you get contact info and sesh at your place. . just had a BBFS for 200 k, she had school in the am, skipped work, came at 3 pm, sex, sex, dinner, sex, taxi home. Not mentioning the casa she's from because of all the gossipy girdies we've had here on the past, with mongers showing putas these posts. Smh.[/QUOTE]What casas do you think are the best? I read on these board la isla and fase dos?

I am coming for my first trip soon.

I have always frequented South East Asia, but due to restrictions I'm trying to plan a different area for traveling next week. If anyone is familiar with the scene in Thailand with bar girls (aka working girls), are their a lot if working girls in the bars at Parque Lleras? I mean ones that hang around and just want a guy to buy him a couple drinks while they have fun with you before heading to a hotel?

If anyone has been around places like the Nana area of Bangkok, you'll know what I mean. Is this area of Medellin sort of like a Colombian version of that? On YouTube, I mostly just see that there are girls in the streets, but I'm not sure if there are certain bars that many of them just hang out in around there.

It may not really exist and I'm just looking to see if this is part of the scene. That's really more of my style and what I enjoy.

[QUOTE=JerseyItalian;2617311]I just checked in here today also.[/QUOTE]How do you like it? I picked it because of the location. How is Parque Lleras?

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2617360]What casas do you think are the best? I read on these board la isla and fase dos?

I am coming for my first trip soon.[/QUOTE]La Isla and Fase Dos are strip clubs, not casas.

[QUOTE=KobeDurden;2617385]...If anyone is familiar with the scene in Thailand with bar girls (aka working girls), are their a lot if working girls in the bars at Parque Lleras? I mean ones that hang around and just want a guy to buy him a couple drinks while they have fun with you before heading to a hotel?...[/QUOTE]I am also familiar with bar environment in Bangkok and Pattaya. IMO, Medellin does not offer the same setting. You will find more of a strip club setting. The most famous ones being Fase Dos and La Isla. There are some strip clubs also in centro but you have to be a bit careful there. Plus the ones in centro tend to be a bit sleazy.

[QUOTE=KobeDurden;2617385]I have always frequented South East Asia, but due to restrictions I'm trying to plan a different area for traveling next week. If anyone is familiar with the scene in Thailand with bar girls (aka working girls), are their a lot if working girls in the bars at Parque Lleras? I mean ones that hang around and just want a guy to buy him a couple drinks while they have fun with you before heading to a hotel?

If anyone has been around places like the Nana area of Bangkok, you'll know what I mean. Is this area of Medellin sort of like a Colombian version of that? On YouTube, I mostly just see that there are girls in the streets, but I'm not sure if there are certain bars that many of them just hang out in around there.[/QUOTE]There are only like 2 bars with hookers. Gustos and there is another that people mention sometimes. Many people have the opinion that hookers in this area are way overpriced and I can see it being this way because it is the area that most of the foreign tourists stay. So tourist prices it is. In almost every other place in Medellin you can get chicks much cheaper. Nothing at all like Nana. Parque Lleras is a rectangular park with streets surrounding the perimeter. On the other sides of the streets are bars, restaurants, stores, Starbucks. It is just full of normal people and sometimes you can find the odd hooker trolling for foreigners.

I remember once several years meeting a chica at Fase Dos and inviting her over to my small hotel in Parque Lleras a few nights later. She showed up dressed really weird with high colorful socks pulled up over her jeans up to her knees and generally looking like a hooker. After the deed, we went somewhere in area but can't remember the particulars though I could hear other normal chicas snickering at her due to her dress style.

This would never happen in the main entertainment districts in Bangkok like Nana or on lower Sukhumvit Boulevard. The reason being almost all the girls are on the make to one degree or the other. That is not necessarily the case in Parque Lleras.

And, no, there are no dance or go- go clubs where girls dance around half nude on tabletops or stages like in Bangkok. These are places where you go in and pay a barfine and take them back to your hotel. This type of scenario does not exist in MDE.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2617445]I am also familiar with bar environment in Bangkok and Pattaya. IMO, Medellin does not offer the same setting. You will find more of a strip club setting. The most famous ones being Fase Dos and La Isla. There are some strip clubs also in centro but you have to be a bit careful there. Plus the ones in centro tend to be a bit sleazy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KobeDurden;2617385] If anyone is familiar with the scene in Thailand with bar girls (aka working girls), are their a lot if working girls in the bars at Parque Lleras? I mean ones that hang around and just want a guy to buy him a couple drinks while they have fun with you before heading to a hotel?
If anyone has been around places like the Nana area of Bangkok, you'll know what I mean. Is this area of Medellin sort of like a Colombian version of that?.[/QUOTE]Cra 53 with CL 52 in Centro has some "girlie bars" , but they are very basic. Busy but basic. They are day time bars. Also close to there are quite a few clubs like the go-go bars in Thailand. Again, basic, but they also have rooms on site, as well as take out if you prefer. In fact, all cities in Colombia have this set up (clubs with working girls).

Nothing in Poblado like that. Medellin is just a South American city. It has prostitution bcos all cities in South America have prostitution. It is not a tourist destination built on sex tourism like Pattaya or other places to a lesser extent. For this reason, among others, I prefer the coast and Sta Marta to MDE, bcos they are more tourist orientated, and sex tourism is more convenient for tourists.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2617452]And, no, there are no dance or go- go clubs where girls dance around half nude on tabletops or stages like in Bangkok. These are places where you go in and pay a barfine and take them back to your hotel. This type of scenario does not exist in MDE.[/QUOTE]All the clubs in Centro are exactly like that. However, they are pretty basic compared to SE Asia. They provide mostly for locals, so the prices are local and the facilities are local too.

Does anyone here know the current guest policy for Hotel Haven?

[QUOTE=KobeDurden;2617385]... Is this area of Medellin sort of like a Colombian version of that..[/QUOTE]You should be checking out Santa Fe, Bogata but they are not the same.

When I answered the posters question, I was referring to Poblado and / or Parque Lleras area so should have been more specific. Like others noted, there are more basic set ups in MDE but these pale in comparision to Bangkok go go's etc especially regarding the pure quality of the girls. Some of these places are very nice too. They are also open at night but not during the day. In the daylight hours, one can go to a massage place or dial up an escort.

There is one area in Bangkok called Nana Entertainment Plaza. It's comprised of three floors of bars and go / go's with girls in all for the taking. They call it the worlds largest adult playground on their sign. Nearby is the infamous Soi Cowboy, a one block stretch of wall to wall clubs. There is no place in world quite like it.

It should be noted that all of these clubs are closed now due to COViD and there is talk about opening sometime in December.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2612087]I have a very uneasy feeling about those youtube videos. Nothing good can come out of them. It is bad for the hobby.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Sex tourists bragging, explaining about their exploits. Stupid and yet often accurate (crappy) videos are bad. I still do not comprehend the word "hobby" used here on the forum.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2617491]When I answered the posters question, I was referring to Poblado and / or Parque Lleras area so should have been more specific. Like others noted, there are more basic set ups in MDE but these pale in comparision to Bangkok go go's etc especially regarding the pure quality of the girls. Some of these places are very nice too. They are also open at night but not during the day. In the daylight hours, one can go to a massage place or dial up an escort.

There is one area in Bangkok called Nana Entertainment Plaza. It's comprised of three floors of bars and go / go's with girls in all for the taking. They call it the worlds largest adult playground on their sign. Nearby is the infamous Soi Cowboy, a one block stretch of wall to wall clubs. There is no place in world quite like it.

It should be noted that all of these clubs are closed now due to COViD and there is talk about opening sometime in December.[/QUOTE]This should slow down the sex tourists from visits to Medellin. LOL (I hope).

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/thailand-allow-quarantine-free-travel-46-countries-pm-says-2021-10-21/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2617491]There is one area in Bangkok called Nana Entertainment Plaza. It's comprised of three floors of bars and go / go's with girls in all for the taking. They call it the worlds largest adult playground on their sign. Nearby is the infamous Soi Cowboy, a one block stretch of wall to wall clubs. There is no place in world quite like it.[/QUOTE]I consider Pattaya's walking street to be even wilder.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2617449]There are only like 2 bars with hookers. Gustos and there is another that people mention sometimes. Many people have the opinion that hookers in this area are way overpriced and I can see it being this way because it is the area that most of the foreign tourists stay. So tourist prices it is. In almost every other place in Medellin you can get chicks much cheaper. Nothing at all like Nana. Parque Lleras is a rectangular park with streets surrounding the perimeter. On the other sides of the streets are bars, restaurants, stores, Starbucks. It is just full of normal people and sometimes you can find the odd hooker trolling for foreigners.[/QUOTE]On any given night you can find hookers in any of the Lleras clubs. I've been approached in several, even had a couple of girls try to get me and another monger to come into a place we were just walking past. I've also been approached by hookers in Club Fahrenheit.

However, the only 2 clubs where you'll always find hookers are Gusto and Lleras Park.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2617493]Agreed. Sex tourists bragging, explaining about their exploits. Stupid and yet often accurate (crappy) videos are bad. I still do not comprehend the word "hobby" used here on the forum.[/QUOTE]Hobby sounds better than "I pay young women to fuck me."

I don't think most of the guys making videos are accomplished sex tourists. There was Cuba Dave years ago, but I think he learned his lesson in Costa Rica. The guys making videos now think they're going to start getting millions of views so they can live off of the revenue.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2617306]Medellin over the past six months has been over-run with foreigners because Asia has been shut down, and the outfall as you mention is there are groups of what I call "gringo hunters", the seasoned ones you mentioned charging higher prices and giving shitty service because they can get away with it with the foreigners, but the locals won't tolerate it, albeit there are still plenty of good servicing chicas available to be found in Centro.

The good news though, and hopefully is a success, is that Thailand is opening up next month, and if successful, and not a bust like Phuket, will be welcome news. And hopefully the Phillipines will open up next year sometime as well.

Very wishful thinking perhaps on my part as COVID has been so unpredictable, but if and when Asia opens back up, hopefully this will result in less foreigners coming to Medellin, and a subsequent adjustment of attitudes and pricing that has occurred within the last six months in Medellin.

Prime time in Medellin was earlier this year before the onslaught of newbie mongers paying too much and polluting lots of the Chicas working Centro.[/QUOTE]Good logic behind your theory, definitely makes a lot of sense. Is it easy to pull "normal" girls from places like malls, shopping centers, gyms, bars / clubs that may be semi pros or someone you can just throw a few bucks after a good night out together?

Bangkok and other Thai cities considered in the red zone may be opening for tourism on November 1, however, entertainment venues have still not been given permission to open. They are lowering the curfew hours, allowing restaurants to serve alcohol, reducing or eliminating the quarantine provisions for those fully vaccinated etc. I think it's possible they may start allowing bars and clubs to open on December 1 in time for high season as they Covid numbers are decreasing in Bangkok though areas of the north are still having problems, such as Chiang Mai.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2617495]This should slow down the sex tourists from visits to Medellin. LOL (I hope).

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/thailand-allow-quarantine-free-travel-46-countries-pm-says-2021-10-21/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2617495]This should slow down the sex tourists from visits to Medellin. LOL (I hope).

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/thailand-allow-quarantine-free-travel-46-countries-pm-says-2021-10-21/[/URL][/QUOTE]Not much. You still have to take one covid test on arrival and are not allowed to leave your hotel until you are negative. It should only take a day, but If you end up positive you are locked down into a mandatory 2 week hospital stay even with no symptoms.

This is what keeps me and others away.

It is an improvement though from the 3 covid tests in a two week quarantine. However, I won't risk a two week hospital quarantine for testing positive.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2617029]It may be possible that there was some backlash from the business establishments around the park regarding the prostitutes. Parque Lleras is the established "tourist" venue or Zona Rosa for Medellin as called out on the street signs leading up to it on Calle 10.

The prostitutes of LLeras are an attraction of the park for foreign visitors that want to see what some Colombian prostitutes look like. LOL if they only knew, and if they weren't allowed, it would lose some of its it's allure, hence my theory that there may of been some backlash from the establishments around the park, not that they should be banned, but allowed.

I can remember while attending classes at EAFIT that Parque LLeras always came up with discussions of the prostitutes working there. Yet they never mentioned any of the other monger destinations such as Centro.

Maybe I'm all wet on this.[/QUOTE]Zona Rosa is for dining, entertainment, nightlife. For the city. Tourism has developed that is focused there, but it is not primarily that. Try walking around Friday or Saturday night. Pre-pandemic anyway. Probably 50 thousand locals over the course of the evening, and the obvious tourists cannot be even noticed. Nor can the prostitutes, unless that is what you are looking for. There have been times in the past few years when there were virtually no prostitutes on the streets there. They were chased out as due to some desire to clean up the area from local / city politics. There are some very strong moves in Medellin to crack down on sex tourism, and many hotels in the area are signed up in a campaign to rid the country basically of sex tourism. So if anything it is viewed as unsavory, and may be tolerated, but at any time there may be a campaign to chase them out of the area. In any case I don't think prostitution is viewed as a desirable thing by local businesses, any more than street beggars are viewed as good for the area.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2617470]Does anyone here know the current guest policy for Hotel Haven?[/QUOTE]I was recently there for 3 weeks. No issue or fee for having a chica visit. I did not, however, ever have more than one at a time. So if you are planning on multiples at the same time, there could be a cost I'm unaware of.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2617493]Agreed. Sex tourists bragging, explaining about their exploits. Stupid and yet often accurate (crappy) videos are bad. I still do not comprehend the word "hobby" used here on the forum.[/QUOTE]For some it may not be a hobby. For me it is. Dictionary definition of hobby: "an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure. ".

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2617360]What casas do you think are the best? I read on these board la isla and fase dos?

I am coming for my first trip soon.[/QUOTE]Haha my friend you don't see the irony in asking this on a completely public forum that every tom dick and harry can read after my post about gringo/weekend warrior containment?

Not to be a dick, well yea I guess kinda, dm me if you want the best casas and which girls to pick. I've been thru almost all of them at each place.

For casas, in general theyre all good besides yakuza and natalia. But there are good fucks to be had there too. Use the map to see them. Theyre all in like a 10 block radius.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2617038].... I would welcome the cleanup of the park of the prostitutes roaming the streets looking for Johns. It only brings drug dealers and thiefs to the area......[/QUOTE]Drug dealers and thieves go anywhere people are gathered together, namely regular clubs, casinos etc. Not just among prostitutes. I would not want to deprive women of the right to earn a living. Why not exhort the police to apprehend the drug dealers and thieves?

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2617495]This should slow down the sex tourists from visits to Medellin. LOL (I hope).

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/thailand-allow-quarantine-free-travel-46-countries-pm-says-2021-10-21/[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm just curious. When people here are dissing gringos, are you referencing non-seasoned mongers who are visiting Medellin? Or western tourists in general, however seasoned?

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2617612]Haha my friend you don't see the irony in asking this on a completely public forum that every tom dick and harry can read after my post about gringo/weekend warrior containment?

Not to be a dick, well yea I guess kinda, dm me if you want the best casas and which girls to pick. I've been thru almost all of them at each place.

For casas, in general theyre all good besides yakuza and natalia. But there are good fucks to be had there too. Use the map to see them. Theyre all in like a 10 block radius.[/QUOTE]I understand, doesn't look like I can message though, I wish I could pay for a membership using my visa giftcard LOL.

Can you point me to the map you're talking about?

Sorry again for my noob questions!

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2617621]...Can you point me to the map you're talking about?...[/QUOTE]Easy, just do a search and you will find the link to the map. It has been discussed so many times in this forum.

Also, regarding the casas, no need to ask for the best. They change all the time, and it's best to check them out on your own. Among the most popular among gringos, New Life and Zandalay. I personally always had a good time at New Life, a big line up makes it easier to find what you like.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2617646]Easy, just do a search and you will find the link to the map. It has been discussed so many times in this forum.

Also, regarding the casas, no need to ask for the best. They change all the time, and it's best to check them out on your own. Among the most popular among gringos, New Life and Zandalay. I personally always had a good time at New Life, a big line up makes it easier to find what you like.[/QUOTE]Are you doing search in thread? I tried *casa map* but did not have any results. What keywords are you searching?

[QUOTE=JC9999;2617593]I was recently there for 3 weeks. No issue or fee for having a chica visit. I did not, however, ever have more than one at a time. So if you are planning on multiples at the same time, there could be a cost I'm unaware of.[/QUOTE]Do the hotels take a girl's ID at the front desk when she comes to visit you, like they do in Thailand? Basically when she leaves she goes to the front desk to pick up her ID and the front desk calls your room to make sure you're ok and not incapacitated or drugged or robbed. Is this a practice in Colombia or not?

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2617612]Haha my friend you don't see the irony in asking this on a completely public forum that every tom dick and harry can read after my post about gringo/weekend warrior containment?

Not to be a dick, well yea I guess kinda, dm me if you want the best casas and which girls to pick. I've been thru almost all of them at each place.[/QUOTE]You do not see the irony in telling a total stranger something secret in private then he goes and discloses it to the public?

Usually they will take a photocopy.

[QUOTE=KobeDurden;2617385]I have always frequented South East Asia, but due to restrictions I'm trying to plan a different area for traveling next week. If anyone is familiar with the scene in Thailand with bar girls (aka working girls), are their a lot if working girls in the bars at Parque Lleras? I mean ones that hang around and just want a guy to buy him a couple drinks while they have fun with you before heading to a hotel?

If anyone has been around places like the Nana area of Bangkok, you'll know what I mean. Is this area of Medellin sort of like a Colombian version of that? On YouTube, I mostly just see that there are girls in the streets, but I'm not sure if there are certain bars that many of them just hang out in around there.

It may not really exist and I'm just looking to see if this is part of the scene. That's really more of my style and what I enjoy.[/QUOTE]For those who are frequent visitors to Pattaya / AC and are here looking to try Medellin, here are a few points for you:

1. If you don't have at least some Spanish, this is going to be a bit difficult / awkward and quite different than what you might be used to. If you are into GFE, this might be next to impossible with no Spanish. This also applies to simple everyday tasks.

2. If heavy drinking every night and the ability to carelessly stagger home completely annihilated is a mandatory part of your holiday, this might not be for you.

3. If wandering around bars full of other foreigners and chatting it up all night and socializing with them is a big part of what you enjoy on holiday, this might not be what you are used to.

4. If anything beyond walking down soi 6 and picking a partner is too much work / you have zero game, you might find Medellin to be labor intensive.

5. If you aren't resourceful or able to use technology to help find your way around, you might struggle. As others have said, this is a normal city that was not built around tourism. There isn't a "red light district" like you might be used to.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2617716]Do the hotels take a girl's ID at the front desk when she comes to visit you? Basically the front desk calls your room to make sure you're ok and not incapacitated or drugged or robbed. Is this a practice in Colombia or not?[/QUOTE]Some do. It varies from place to place. You can always ask them to do that.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2617687]Are you doing search in thread? I tried *casa map* but did not have any results. What keywords are you searching?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List[/URL]

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2617751]Usually they will take a photocopy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustTK;2617773]Some do. It varies from place to place. You can always ask them to do that.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info fellas. Good to know. Not that I'm scared, but just reading reports of people getting drugged and all that jazz I was curious if hotels are accustomed to something like this.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2617798]Thanks for the info fellas. Good to know. Not that I'm scared, but just reading reports of people getting drugged and all that jazz I was curious if hotels are accustomed to something like this.[/QUOTE]Insist on girl ID being copied. Saves you headaches. Angels may look sexy but inside them who know what is lurking?

I've had decent luck in South America with girls from various websites and I have a couple of possibilities in Medellin. If they flake I'm prepared to bolt to a few nearby casas in Poblado, Dharma Spa is closest or maybe Om Spa for Men. A bit farther away are Do Spa and Absolute Spa for Men. I haven't seen these spas mentioned but it anyone has some info please send.

You will love Gustos for sure in Parque lleras.

[QUOTE=Dg1980;2617761]For those who are frequent visitors to Pattaya / AC and are here looking to try Medellin, here are a few points for you:

1. If you don't have at least some Spanish, this is going to be a bit difficult / awkward and quite different than what you might be used to. If you are into GFE, this might be next to impossible with no Spanish. This also applies to simple everyday tasks.

2. If heavy drinking every night and the ability to carelessly stagger home completely annihilated is a mandatory part of your holiday, this might not be for you.

3. If wandering around bars full of other foreigners and chatting it up all night and socializing with them is a big part of what you enjoy on holiday, this might not be what you are used to.

4. If anything beyond walking down soi 6 and picking a partner is too much work / you have zero game, you might find Medellin to be labor intensive.

5. If you aren't resourceful or able to use technology to help find your way around, you might struggle. As others have said, this is a normal city that was not built around tourism. There isn't a "red light district" like you might be used to.[/QUOTE]It's unfortunate that this wasn't posted here several months ago as boatloads of guys with many of the traits / characteristics you've described have been showing up in Medellin over the last six months and have been polluting and corrupting El Centro along with other venues.

Hopefully Asia will successfully re-open soon so these guys can return there.

[QUOTE=Dg1980;2617761]For those who are frequent visitors to Pattaya / AC and are here looking to try Medellin, here are a few points for you...[/QUOTE]Excellent summary! Right on the money.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2617857]Excellent summary! Right on the money.[/QUOTE]I don't think it is all accurate. GFE is not that hard to get. It depends on the venue. If one goes to mansion, one likely will get it. When compare to BKK which the poster replied to, I would say MDE is even easier to get GFF from better looking girls. The RLD in SE Asia is geared toward foreigners while the RLD in MDE is for locals.

I haven't posted much, because you have to allow the so called ground zero guys to have a say about Medellin. You can listen to them or you can put boots on the ground yourself and get your own feet wet. All I can see across the board is that mongers are complaining about the price that girls are charging? Medellin in not like Pattaya, too many gringos, other mongers are too wide open and they usually get that they deserve. Some are saying that the girls are lazy and too stupid to really earn in coin.

The only things that I know about Pattaya are, its a 25 hour flight or longer to get there. Its located in South East Asia, and according to all of the complaining in the Medellin group, the girls are more readily available. Many have told me that Pattaya is quite a bit more expensive than Medellin. Only Mr E has explained to me, how it could be cheaper and ways to counter the expenses in Pattaya. For now, I am always 3.5 hours away from Medellin with a ticket cost of around $175 round trip, I have no complaints about the City of Eternal Spring.

I was in Medellin from Oct 7th until Oct 11th, I didn't really notice any changes and my home and clothes and items were still intact. What I have noticed is that many mongers are complaining when they clearly have options. Bars, Casas, Strip clubs, Domicillios, and the Streetwalkers, but no, we must complain because that what we do when we do not get our way. Every place does not have to be Americanized in order to be a great place to visit. I can tell you many things that I hate about Medellin but I want, because I can tell you about how much I love the great variety of chicas that are available for sex in this city.

If you do not have a $100 dollars a day to invest in this hobby, why are you in it? In Medellin you can get laid in a nice casa in centro for $22 US and you are complaining? I can't figure out the logic. Many of you are do ant****ial that you have no problem telling other board members just how much you hate fellow Americans, I absolutely love reading every story about how other gringos in the area annoy you and you hate to be around them. Simple solution, don't acknowledge them, keep It moving, you came to monger, not a meet and greet.

Clearly the majority of the board members are older European guys who are on fixed incomes because there is no way possible that you have been in America, still working and you are complaining about prices of girls. If your social security check ain't cutting it, stay in your lane, if that pension ain't allowing you to get your Hugh Heffner on, stay in your lane. Pay for what you can afford not what you think you deserve, that's where many mongers go wrong, but hey, who cares if you go in debt trying to monger in a 3rd world country. Anyone on this board who still has a job and can say that they have not done incredible numbers, then you must have called in to work 3 out of the 5 days you were scheduled to work. Even if I could return to Medellin right now I would not do it, due to the amount of money I am currently earning in the USA. My target for another 6 month vacation is next June or July, but every 50-60 days, I will sneak into Medellin and back to the USA like I never left.

If you can write these post and convince readers that you have a well diverse 401 k plan, then you can pay the small increase that some of these girls are asking. It just goes to show, just because you have the ability to command the English language, clearly it has nothing to do with your ability to earn and save money. Who's complaining about price if you are out here living the dream? Mongers have to stop being so abrasive that we allow ourselves to be so profound even in our posts that we just lose it. If you are too cantankerous to be around yourself, then tell other board members, don't try and meet up with them. I wish all of you SEA lovers nothing but the best and I hope you leave Medellin with no intention to return.

On a more informative note, when leaving Medellin, lately I have seen a big increase in the airlines waiting until you enter into the tunnels headed to the plane and then snatching you aside for a strip search, computer search and a phone search, looking for inappropriate photos. Be mindful, I have no idea what they can do if they catch you with photos of girls in the nude, I just know they aren't checking people's laptops, phones, and cavity searches for their health. Everyone stay safe, Pollo Negro is Out!

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2617800]Insist on girl ID being copied. Saves you headaches. Angels may look sexy but inside them who know what is lurking?[/QUOTE]The girls usually have no problem with giving their ID?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2617907]I don't think it is all accurate. GFE is not that hard to get. It depends on the venue. If one goes to mansion, one likely will get it. When compare to BKK which the poster replied to, I would say MDE is even easier to get GFF from better looking girls. The RLD in SE Asia is geared toward foreigners while the RLD in MDE is for locals.[/QUOTE]For me personally I usually get GFE with almost every girl, whether a hooker or not. Reason being is I give them BFE instead and they love it so they naturally act accordingly.

I consider myself a truth-seeker and a man-of-my-word, and I promised a napkin sketch of the Law of Supply and Demand a while back. There has been a lot of discussion lately here about the influx of sex tourists, so maybe the timing is right. Most readers here won't get it or will remain stuck in their previous mode of thinking. If a few become enlightened then it's worth it.

As an example and to introduce the concept, we will start with pizzas. If you cannot understand the first graph, then you can only accept it on faith and my word that what I am telling you is true. If you cannot understand the graph, then you cannot form an intelligent argument against supply and demand, plain and simple. See foto.

The "Law" of Supply and Demand" was first introduced as a theory over 100 years ago when it won the Nobel prize in economics. If anyone wants to do some fact checking feel free because I am not using Google, just memory. In fact, one of my rules is if I have to do too much research on the Internet, then I am not qualified to discuss the subject. But that's just me.

The initial Theory was elevated to a Law because for over 100 years, there has never been one exception shown to this Law, in a free market. Whether it is a multinational Malaysian conglomerate or a mud hut in Uganda selling dung beetles, The Law of Supply and Demand is inviolate. There are some common pitfalls in understanding supply and demand, and all have been on display here on this board.

Thinking that somehow your market, meaning our puta market is 'unique' and the Law does not apply, is not true. That's called the personalization pitfall. Discrediting the entire field of economics in an effort to ignore the truths, that is called poisoning the well. Economics may not be a science, but discernment is required to understand what has strength and validity and what does not.

Applying personal experience to disprove this point is statistically invalid. No one individual's random, biased, experience can come close to achieving the number of examples needed to have a sample size of sufficient power. That would take a team of researchers posted at all the entrances to Ground Zero with counters, the same at the hotels, interviewing all dicks and wet holes, completed over a defined period of time, with huge assumptions about accuracy of interview information obtained.

Put simply, the price you pay has nothing to do with setting the price in a free market. The only possible toehold I could see for an argument against The Law applying to the puta market at Ground Zero is that is it not a free market. But not one person here has tried that approach, which further shows me, those who don't believe in this don't understand the concept against which the are arguing. See the second supply and demand graph for mongering at Ground Zero.

The market sets the price solely based on the supply and demand for pussy. I have seen a slight sense of comprehension in people starting to grasp this concept here, when the discussion focuses more on the number of new gringos entering the market. Yes, that is the key. The quantity of dicks creates the demand and the response of the supply of wet holes determines the equilibrium point. Then a line parallel to the x axis from this equilibrium point determines price where it crosses the why axis. Payment does not enter into the equation, anywhere. Payment has nothing to do with price.

The two greatest fallacies about price are that payment and cost go into determining price, but they do not. Both are independent variables. Cost is a separate discussion.

Not one person here has mounted an argument that could be carried beyond one or two steps without collapse. What the naysayers here do is argue against concepts they don't begin to understand. Knowing what you don't know is a higher intellectual function and usually harder than knowing what you do know, and this topic has been a good example here.

So I thank you guys for making me feel smarter than I probably really am. I was and am still shocked and surprised that I am the only one here who has posted accurately about this topic. I am not an economist. This is not in my wheelhouse. When I said I took one economics course over 25 years ago it was to make the point that I was not the expert. But I know enough about it to tell you the truth. One of these days an actual economist will join this board and validate everything I have said about this. Most will still not change their minds.

Finally, why does it matter? I honestly don't care if you think I am right or not. I check my ego at the door although that is also constantly misinterpreted here. No matter what you believe, you and others are not having any effect on price by what you pay, which adds to the utter futility of having any angst over whether or not you pay 10 mil COP too much of not. That is laughable on more than one level.

The only effect you can have as an individual on price is solely from showing up. The reason it matters is because no mongerer has a right to tell another mongerer the amount he should or should not be paying for any service in this or any sex market that is unregulated and is without barriers of entry or exit for dicks and wet holes. Especially when that sentiment it is wrapped in a message that somehow a mongerer is doing something "wrong" and should feel guilty if he pays too much. Hogwash. I won't stand by and let others cast unfounded negative aspersions at other people when they are so clueless themselves.

Probably mongerers who do not understand supply and demand are afraid they are getting priced out of the market, I really don't know. If that is your concern, your only possible effective course of action would be to disseminate information that discourages gringos from coming here for sex tourism in the first place. Tell them it's dangerous and that STD's are rampant and crime is out of control. If you can get the number of gringos to go down, that could drive price down. The price they pay once they get here has nothing to do with what you pay. That is set by market forces. Yes, you may get priced out because as Medellin grows in popularity, more sex tourists will come here and that increases demand. If there is a compensatory increase in supply of wet holes, both lines on the graph are shifted an equal distance to the right and the equilibrium point, or price, does not change.

Before someone tries to bring it up, the gringo or tourist market being smaller than the local market has nothing to do with this, unless possibly you want argue that a puta cannot tell the difference between a Colombian and a Gringo, jaja. In the interest of space and trying to keep it as simple as possible, I won't explain that further at this point.

You may recall I don't respond to individual posts. Keeping it real for you guys, and of course, as always, Keep on Keepin' On! Wednesday will be three weeks back in the states for me and I am having a blast here, too. No drugs, more gym time. My ex-wife just flew in for a nine day visit. We had an awesome first day at a Pride Festival, the South Carolina State Fair, and a Vanilla Ice concert. Vanilla Ice put out some incredibly positive vibes. Got to respect a guy who had the biggest one-hit wonder of the world back when he was 22 yo, invested his money into a successful home remodeling company in Miami, then turned that into a reality show that is in it tenth season on the DIY network. Wow. Headed out to the beaches for a week, first Myrtle, then Folly. Got my Z car running purrfektly for the trip. Life is Good.

I will start working on my immigration visa when I get back from the beach. I plan on going through the Colombian Consulate in Atlanta, which is the closest one to me. The reason for the immigration visa instead of a tourist visa is six months per year as I have done for the last two years in Medellin, is not enough! Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2617800]Insist on girl ID being copied. Saves you headaches. Angels may look sexy but inside them who know what is lurking?[/QUOTE]I copied this meme off the FB page of a Medellin chica. I think it somes up what you are saying and they feel about it LOL.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2617938]Reason being is I give them BFE instead and they love it so they naturally act accordingly.[/QUOTE]Hehe, I like that answer. BFE. Good response.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2617972]I a Medellin chica. I think it somes up what you are saying and they feel about it LOL.[/QUOTE]Haha, but shouldn't this be the other way round. The reflection s / be the angel? Maybe I am overthinnking this. Hehe.

Unfortunately when you have street prostitution you will certainly have drugs and crime. Yes, you will always have drug dealers and thieves where there is gambling. But it certainly can be better controlled by eliminating the street prostitution. Depriving the women of their rights? You have to be kidding. They can sell themselves by other means. I saw a growing amount of el centro rats making there way to Lleras. This a reason to be concerned. Parque Lleras has some very good places to enjoy. It needs to be cleaned up before it becomes a dump.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2617614]Drug dealers and thieves go anywhere people are gathered together, namely regular clubs, casinos etc. Not just among prostitutes. I would not want to deprive women of the right to earn a living. Why not exhort the police to apprehend the drug dealers and thieves?[/QUOTE].

I agree as well. With some of the more hardened ones you might get a cold response but the vast majority who are in it for the short term respond well to being treated well. It is a two way street.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2618012]Hehe, I like that answer. BFE. Good response.[/QUOTE]

Leaving soon for my first trip, pretty excited.

I bought the blu v70 dual simcard, going to buy a sim next week for here, create tinder, and then get a sim there for a Colombian # as well.

Will be walking around Lleras for night life, and my plan is strip clubs during the day.

How is la Isla / Fase dos during the day??

If that doesn't work well going to try the casa map on here (thanks again fun luvr for the link).

Pretty excited, I've been to DR, and Montreal so far. This is going to be pretty different.

At the same time nervous because I'll be roaming around solo. But I roamed around DR and didn't have any issues.

Montreal is extremely safe so no worries there.

What do you guys think of my plan? Any places you'd definitely hit? I'll be there for 5 days.

Thanks again for all the information everyone!

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2618021]... Depriving the women of their rights? You have to be kidding....[/QUOTE]I did not say "Depriving the women of their rights". What I said was "depriving the women of their right to make a living". A subtle difference of which you are cunningly aware.

A woman should be free to choose how she wants to earn her livelihood as long as she is hurting no one.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2618058]Leaving soon for my first trip, pretty excited.

I bought the blu v70 dual simcard, going to buy a sim next week for here, create tinder, and then get a sim there for a Colombian # as well.

Will be walking around Lleras for night life, and my plan is strip clubs during the day.

How is la Isla / Fase dos during the day??

If that doesn't work well going to try the casa map on here (thanks again fun luvr for the link).

Pretty excited, I've been to DR, and Montreal so far. This is going to be pretty different.

At the same time nervous because I'll be roaming around solo. But I roamed around DR and didn't have any issues.

Montreal is extremely safe so no worries there.

What do you guys think of my plan? Any places you'd definitely hit? I'll be there for 5 days.

Thanks again for all the information everyone![/QUOTE]I also found a awesome love motel called Ibiza motel on google, has a strip pole right in the room.

Figured once I get some whatsapp this place might be more fun than my hotel LOL.

There seems to be good escort sites to, hopefully the girls really look like the pictures though.

I'm 35 lots of tats usually vibe good with the girls in DR / Montreal, end up smoking and chillin.

Anyone have experience with these sites? Good experiences or bad?

[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/medellin[/URL]

[URL]https://lacelestina.co/en/profiles/location/Medellin[/URL]

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/[/URL]

Will make sure to post a good review while I'm there, if anyone else is there 10/31 - 11/5 let me know, can link up for some food / drinks!

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2618058]
...Will be walking around Lleras for night life, and my plan is strip clubs during the day.

...How is la Isla / Fase dos during the day??

...At the same time nervous because I'll be roaming around solo. But I roamed around DR and didn't have any issues...[/QUOTE]Strip clubs during the day? Never done that. Check at what time they open. Most folks stick with casas or free lancers during the day. An alternative would be to do a cita with an FB girl or someone you already met. I do mostly citas with FB girls during the day.

I think you should forget about Isla / Fase Dos during the day. They don't get going until late at night.

Medellin is probably not as safe as Montreal, but it's safe enough with common sense. I mongered in both Montreal and Quebec city. I felt very safe there but I am also comfortable in Medellin. Just use your common sense.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2617907]...GFE is not that hard to get. It depends on the venue. If one goes to mansion, one likely will get it. When compare to BKK which the poster replied to, I would say MDE is even easier to get GFF from better looking girls. The RLD in SE Asia is geared toward foreigners while the RLD in MDE is for locals.[/QUOTE]I read it differently. I understood him to state that GFE is easier and better in SEA than in Medellin. In SEA, most girls speak some English, and that's a prerequisite for meaningful GFE. Not the case in Medellin. Hence, one has to learn Spanish and that takes time.

Now, if you tell me that it's easier to get GFE in Medellin, than say Thailand, I would strongly disagree, based on my personal experience, and I have taken 25+ trips to both countries. IMO, Thailand is the best in the world in the GFE area. Heck, I even find Brazil better in this area than Medellin. To be fair, Brazil should be compared to SEA.

When I started coming to Medellin back in 2013, I did the mansion on several trips before switching to apartments. Even at the mansion, speaking Spanish makes a big difference.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2617971]...I am still shocked and surprised that I am the only one here who has posted accurately about this topic. I am not an economist. This is not in my wheelhouse...[/QUOTE]Still shocked and surprised? Well, you have to realize my friend that this forum is about pussy, where to find it and how much it costs. For those who want to discuss economics and the law of supply / demand, there are plenty of forums where these ideas are widely discussed. Or one can buy a book or two about Warren Buffett and learn all there is to learn in this area.

At any rate, that was a good effort from your part, and I am sure many folks here will be thankful.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2618085]Strip clubs during the day? Never done that. Check at what time they open. Most folks stick with casas or free lancers during the day. An alternative would be to do a cita with an FB girl or someone you already met. I do mostly citas with FB girls during the day.

I think you should forget about Isla / Fase Dos during the day. They don't get going until late at night.

Medellin is probably not as safe as Montreal, but it's safe enough with common sense. I mongered in both Montreal and Quebec city. I felt very safe there but I am also comfortable in Medellin. Just use your common sense.[/QUOTE]On google it showed them as 24 hours, but maybe not a good idea then. I didn't line up any FB girls yet, but going to line up some on tinder once I get this sim card in.

I like to do my stuff during the day, and hit the clubs for normal girls at night, at least that's what I do in DR / Montreal, usually pretty good success. If I fail then around 3 AM I start texting paid girls LOL.

During the day I love to smoke, get a massage, eat some molly, and have incredible sex. Then usually take a nap around 4-5 , conk out till 10-11, and drink time.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2618085]Strip clubs during the day? Never done that. I think you should forget about Isla / Fase Dos during the day. They don't get going until late at night.
[/QUOTE]Some of the strip clubs en Centro are open during the day. If you want a bit of a tour of centro one day, let me know. I don't charge high fees. A couple of beeers wkill do it. Hehe. Am living here for a while longer so will be around.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2618096]...Now, if you tell me that it's easier to get GFE in Medellin, than say Thailand...[/QUOTE]

My reply has to do with the generalization in the original post. I tried to qualify everything I said. I never said Thailand as a whole. BKK specifically, go to Thermae, it is a hit and miss. Go to Baccara and one might encounter the most popular girls pick or reject you, not the other way around, and they don't even come down the stage to be charmed. And usually there is a time limit on both and they may not go with you for ST if your hotel is too far.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2618122]Some of the strip clubs en Centro are open during the day. If you want a bit of a tour of centro one day, let me know. I don't charge high fees. A couple of beeers wkill do it. Hehe. Am living here for a while longer so will be around.[/QUOTE]There are several casas further north with setup more like a bar that open during daytime.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2618122]Some of the strip clubs en Centro are open during the day. If you want a bit of a tour of centro one day, let me know. I don't charge high fees. A couple of beeers wkill do it. Hehe. Am living here for a while longer so will be around.[/QUOTE]JustTk I'am also going to be in MDE in couple weeks. I've been there 4 x over last 5 years just not familiar with Centro outside of New Life. Any recommendations for a first stop to check out in Centro?

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2618146]I'am just not familiar with Centro outside of New Life. Any recommendations for a first stop to check out in Centro?[/QUOTE]I think its difficult to say. A casa is "good" for me if I find what I want. I don't need 20 or 30 girls in a line up if I find one that grabs my attention. I tend to have a few favourites while a partiicular girl is there. If she moves on, I might move on too. If I was in your situation, I would just try 2-3 per day. If you choose wisely, you can explore clusters where you don't need to travel far between them, in search of smthg you want.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2618070]I also found a awesome love motel called Ibiza motel on google, has a strip pole right in the room.

Figured once I get some whatsapp this place might be more fun than my hotel LOL.

There seems to be good escort sites to, hopefully the girls really look like the pictures though.

I'm 35 lots of tats usually vibe good with the girls in DR / Montreal, end up smoking and chillin.

Anyone have experience with these sites? Good experiences or bad?

[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/medellin[/URL]

[URL]https://lacelestina.co/en/profiles/location/Medellin[/URL]

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/[/URL]

Will make sure to post a good review while I'm there, if anyone else is there 10/31 - 11/5 let me know, can link up for some food / drinks![/QUOTE]I been to Ibiza, place is very nice. You won't be disappointed. Only downside is its a 15 minute drive from Parque Lleras in good traffic. Its been two years since I was there, so maybe I m a bit off on the distance. Mileroticos is a gamble and not worth it unless you have no other options, I have had girls show up with no ID, girls show up looking like skanked out druggies, girls show up and way overweight. I wouldn't recommend mileroticos. Your plan of using strip clubs during the day and Parque Lleras as night is a good way to go. Get a Colombian burner number your first day there and get some contacts your first night. Then your set, all the girls you can handle. Club Faison is a good after hours place as well. I have never had a bad time in a Colombian Strip Club, sometimes they are fun, and sometimes they are outrageously fun.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2617907]I don't think it is all accurate. GFE is not that hard to get. It depends on the venue. If one goes to mansion, one likely will get it. When compare to BKK which the poster replied to, I would say MDE is even easier to get GFF from better looking girls. The RLD in SE Asia is geared toward foreigners while the RLD in MDE is for locals.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. GFE is more common based on my experience in Colombia than it is with the bar girls in Thailand that are eager to head back to the bar for more clients.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2618122]Some of the strip clubs en Centro are open during the day. If you want a bit of a tour of centro one day, let me know. I don't charge high fees. A couple of beeers wkill do it. Hehe. Am living here for a while longer so will be around.[/QUOTE]Sounds perfect kind of wingman.

I've never been to Thailand. Are most of the girls under 30 usually ok with prostitution as a semi pro at minimum. By semi pro I mean are there girls that want to make extra money but don't want to work at the bars. Instead they are cashiers at the mall or restaurant and wait for the right tourist to come along.

I have this image in my mind that all girls in Thailand that work at a mall or restaurant or okay with pay for play if you are dressed nice and are clean. Am I wrong?

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2617924]
On a more informative note, when leaving Medellin, lately I have seen a big increase in the airlines waiting until you enter into the tunnels headed to the plane and then snatching you aside for a strip search, computer search and a phone search, looking for inappropriate photos. Be mindful, I have no idea what they can do if they catch you with photos of girls in the nude, I just know they aren't checking people's laptops, phones, and cavity searches for their health. Everyone stay safe, Pollo Negro is Out![/QUOTE]Interesting point as have noticed this on my last departure which was about a month ago.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2618096]I read it differently. I understood him to state that GFE is easier and better in SEA than in Medellin. In SEA, most girls speak some English, and that's a prerequisite for meaningful GFE. Not the case in Medellin. Hence, one has to learn Spanish and that takes time.

Now, if you tell me that it's easier to get GFE in Medellin, than say Thailand, I would strongly disagree, based on my personal experience, and I have taken 25+ trips to both countries. IMO, Thailand is the best in the world in the GFE area. Heck, I even find Brazil better in this area than Medellin. To be fair, Brazil should be compared to SEA.

When I started coming to Medellin back in 2013, I did the mansion on several trips before switching to apartments. Even at the mansion, speaking Spanish makes a big difference.[/QUOTE]I think the reason its harder in Medellin is because in general most people in south america don't speak english. In Thailand I pretty much can live there all my life without knowing Thai and its as if I never left the states, especially the street hookers. In Pattaya they even learned to speak Russian to cater to all the Russian tourists.

But I think if you speak fluent or intermediate spanish and have somewhat of a game you should be able to have a GFE with a girl in Colombia.

also, what is SEA you keep referring to?

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2617924]On a more informative note, when leaving Medellin, lately I have seen a big increase in the airlines waiting until you enter into the tunnels headed to the plane and then snatching you aside for a strip search, computer search and a phone search, looking for inappropriate photos. Be mindful, I have no idea what they can do if they catch you with photos of girls in the nude, I just know they aren't checking people's laptops, phones, and cavity searches for their health. Everyone stay safe, Pollo Negro is Out![/QUOTE]What if you refuse to unlock your phone for them or your laptop? They can't get into either of mine because mine are encrypted so good luck to them.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618201]also, what is SEA you keep referring to?[/QUOTE]SEA is South East Asia. Usually in this forum it means Thailand and Philippines and Vietnam.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2618034]I agree as well. With some of the more hardened ones you might get a cold response but the vast majority who are in it for the short term respond well to being treated well. It is a two way street.[/QUOTE]Can it truly be considered GFE if you don't have to spend 30 minutes trying to figure out the only restaurant where she will eat after she has repeatedly told "just pick anywhere" and then told you no to every place you suggested?

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618201]also, what is SEA you keep referring to?[/QUOTE]SEA means Southeast Asia.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2617924]I haven't posted much, because you have to allow the so called ground zero guys to have a say about Medellin. You can listen to them or you can put boots on the ground yourself and get your own feet wet. All I can see across the board is that mongers are complaining about the price that girls are charging? Medellin in not like Pattaya, too many gringos, other mongers are too wide open and they usually get that they deserve. Some are saying that the girls are lazy and too stupid to really earn in coin.

The only things that I know about Pattaya are, its a 25 hour flight or longer to get there. Its located in South East Asia, and according to all of the complaining in the Medellin group, the girls are more readily available. Many have told me that Pattaya is quite a bit more expensive than Medellin. Only Mr E has explained to me, how it could be cheaper and ways to counter the expenses in Pattaya. For now, I am always 3.5 hours away from Medellin with a ticket cost of around $175 round trip, I have no complaints about the City of Eternal Spring.[/QUOTE]The actual airlines are checking phones, computers, and performing strip searches? Is it the airlines or airport security? What exactly do you mean by strip search and cavity search? Please elaborate on what you saw because I am shocked by this? I have never heard of airlines doing anything like this, I know they looked for large amounts of drugs and weapons and shit like that, but I had no clue they were searching date on our personal electronics?

You saw them pull people aside and perform these searches or someone you know told you about this?

If you could elaborate on this, it would be greatly appreciated?

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2617971]I consider myself a truth-seeker and a man-of-my-word, and I promised a napkin sketch of the Law of Supply and Demand a while back. There has been a lot of discussion lately here about the influx of sex tourists, so maybe the timing is right. Most readers here won't get it or will remain stuck in their previous mode of thinking. If a few become enlightened then it's worth it.

As an example and to introduce the concept, we will start with pizzas. If you cannot understand the first graph, then you can only accept it on faith and my word that what I am telling you is true. If you cannot understand the graph, then you cannot form an intelligent argument against supply and demand, plain and simple. See foto.

The "Law" of Supply and Demand" was first introduced as a theory over 100 years ago when it won the Nobel prize in economics. If anyone wants to do some fact checking feel free because I am not using Google, just memory. In fact, one of my rules is if I have to do too much research on the Internet, then I am not qualified to discuss the subject. But that's just me..[/QUOTE]You are a forum treasure, please never stop posting.

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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2618223]The actual airlines are checking phones, computers, and performing strip searches? Is it the airlines or airport security? What exactly do you mean by strip search and cavity search? Please elaborate on what you saw because I am shocked by this? I have never heard of airlines doing anything like this, I know they looked for large amounts of drugs and weapons and shit like that, but I had no clue they were searching date on our personal electronics?

You saw them pull people aside and perform these searches or someone you know told you about this?

If you could elaborate on this, it would be greatly appreciated?[/QUOTE]I suspect he (and others) are just trying to dissuade the 'gringos' that everyone seems to hate so much. Although why they would particularly be concerned with strip / phone / computer searches than than the "true" Colombian mongers is beyond me. Honestly, never felt so unwelcome or unwanted on a mongering forum before. I've been to SEA many times and want to expand my mongering adventures but my history and lack of experience with all things Colombia I guess makes me one of the stereotypical 'gringos' that everyone hates.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2618058]Leaving soon for my first trip, pretty excited.

I bought the blu v70 dual simcard, going to buy a sim next week for here, create tinder, and then get a sim there for a Colombian # as well.

Will be walking around Lleras for night life, and my plan is strip clubs during the day.

How is la Isla / Fase dos during the day??

If that doesn't work well going to try the casa map on here (thanks again fun luvr for the link).

Pretty excited, I've been to DR, and Montreal so far. This is going to be pretty different.

At the same time nervous because I'll be roaming around solo. But I roamed around DR and didn't have any issues.

Montreal is extremely safe so no worries there.[/QUOTE]You will have a great time! With a bit of experience (which you already have in other countries) you will have a head start. One thing I would suggest. Learn some basic Spanish. In general people in Medellin don't know much English, even if you only have the basics down it will really help and make your interactions that little bit better.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2618230]I suspect he (and others) are just trying to dissuade the 'gringos' that everyone seems to hate so much. Although why they would particularly be concerned with strip / phone / computer searches than than the "true" Colombian mongers is beyond me. Honestly, never felt so unwelcome or unwanted on a mongering forum before. I've been to SEA many times and want to expand my mongering adventures but my history and lack of experience with all things Colombia I guess makes me one of the stereotypical 'gringos' that everyone hates.[/QUOTE]Nah been reading the forum awhile, PolloN ain't the type to make some shit up. I did a google search and the airlines do have the authority to check all your shit. I got nothing illegal to hide but I would rather not have people in the government see my porn and mongering / prostitute searches on my phone and computer haha.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2618070]I also found a awesome love motel called Ibiza motel on google, has a strip pole right in the room.

Figured once I get some whatsapp this place might be more fun than my hotel LOL.

There seems to be good escort sites to, hopefully the girls really look like the pictures though.

I'm 35 lots of tats usually vibe good with the girls in DR / Montreal, end up smoking and chillin.

Anyone have experience with these sites? Good experiences or bad?

[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/medellin[/URL]

[URL]https://lacelestina.co/en/profiles/location/Medellin[/URL]

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/[/URL]

Will make sure to post a good review while I'm there, if anyone else is there 10/31 - 11/5 let me know, can link up for some food / drinks![/QUOTE]The tats should do well with the chicas, they usually have a few so good talking point. I've used La Celestina in Bogota a couple of years ago and the girls were really high quality (if a little expensive compared to casas and even strip clubs). Check out:

[URL]www.photoprepagos.com[/URL]

This site is hit and miss but you can find a few gems, I've had some great times when living in both Bogota and Medellin with this website. If you have time on your hands you can see reviews of girls from these kinds of sites here:

[URL]foroprepagoscolombia.com[/URL]

My Spanish isn't the best but I think if you translate into English it should be OK?

Research is the name of the game, you will learn a lot in your 5 days, the more research you do now the more time you save when boots are on the ground, enjoy!

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2617971]The market sets the price solely based on the supply and demand for pussy. I have seen a slight sense of comprehension in people starting to grasp this concept here, when the discussion focuses more on the number of new gringos entering the market. Yes, that is the key. The quantity of dicks creates the demand and the response of the supply of wet holes determines the equilibrium point. Then a line parallel to the x axis from this equilibrium point determines price where it crosses the why axis. Payment does not enter into the equation, anywhere. Payment has nothing to do with price.

The two greatest fallacies about price are that payment and cost go into determining price, but they do not. Both are independent variables. Cost is a separate discussion.

Probably mongerers who do not understand supply and demand are afraid they are getting priced out of the market, I really don't know. If that is your concern, your only possible effective course of action would be to disseminate information that discourages gringos from coming here for sex tourism in the first place. Tell them it's dangerous and that STD's are rampant and crime is out of control. If you can get the number of gringos to go down, that could drive price down. The price they pay once they get here has nothing to do with what you pay. That is set by market forces.[/QUOTE]Ostee,

Let me tell you what I agree with you about. An individual monger does not set the market. People are going to pay what they are going to pay, and it really is no one else's right to come along and tell them what to pay. As I have said, if you rag on a monger for paying too much, he is going to lie and say he paid less or not post at all.

Thing is though you are making a mistake because the law of supply and demand (really the law of supply and demand and price) cannot apply to an opaque market. Is pussy all the same? Hell no. I have spent a $1000 for a 2 hour session and been happy and spent $20 and felt ripped off. It is not just pussy. What we really talking about is a woman's ability to perform well. Reviews help the market be efficient but I do not know how many reviews there are in Medellin of individual women.

But for a lot of foreigners, the #1 cost is not money but time. If my hotel and airplane cost is $1000 for 5 days in Medellin, my cost is $200 per day so why in the hell would I give up a girl I am in lust with for an extra $10 or $20 or even $50? Guys here can ***** about these "foreigners" all they want but it is not going to change anything.

Getting lower prices though by lying to other men? You say that the law of supply and demand is absolute and then you think that you can subvert it with lying? Come on. A much better solution is to get away from the tourist areas. Then you have a lower number of men to compete with. When I was in Cali and used [URL]seeking.com[/URL], the two women I saw had not dated anyone else, and I could have paid them almost anything I wanted because there was no market. Yes, Medellin has an almost ruthless market where women try to suck men dry, and that is one of the things I do not like about it.

Also unlike a coffee bean, the value of pussy goes down the more a woman uses it as does her self-esteem. You have not delved into that emotional aspect.

So instead of lying, what I did was create my own market. Here is what I am offering you for your pussy, and it is not just money. You are giving some women something of value when you offer them a chance not to be banging a dozen dudes per day. There is also value in taking money for sex and not looking like a WG to many women. And then you can also see what a woman's needs are and use the money you would have given her in a more effective manner than she would which has value as well.

So if you are unhappy with Medellin, then you should go to an area where the supply and demand is more in your favor or create your own market. Lying about market conditions is just silly and wouldn't work.

What was the theme of the book, "Who moved my cheese?" If you are unhappy with the cheese you are getting, then get off your ass and go look for some more.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2618230]I suspect he (and others) are just trying to dissuade the 'gringos' that everyone seems to hate so much. Although why they would particularly be concerned with strip / phone / computer searches than than the "true" Colombian mongers is beyond me. Honestly, never felt so unwelcome or unwanted on a mongering forum before. I've been to SEA many times and want to expand my mongering adventures but my history and lack of experience with all things Colombia I guess makes me one of the stereotypical 'gringos' that everyone hates.[/QUOTE]There are lots of nasty pieces of work on this forum. Its the USA race to extremism. Love or hate, no place in between. That is the new zietgiest. I can only suggest you ignore them and chat with the firiendlier people.

Time to lighten it up after my most recent post about Supply & Demand. Geez that was heavy handed but it seemed like a good idea at the time when I wrote it at 4 AM last night. I couldn't sleep because my ex-wife in bed next to me got drunk off her ass at the Pride Festival and Vanilla Ice concert and her snoring was rattling the windows, jajajaja.

Scarlet bought over the tall Purrfekt Paisa (not to be confused with the much smaller Purrfekt Piel) four or five times during my last visit to MDE. She would typically ask me at the last minute when she was "en camino" or on her way over, did I want her to stop by and pick up Purrfekt Paisa? At first I acted ambivalent mainly to keep the price point low, but inside I would be thinking, "Hell, yeah!" Jajajaja.

The three of us all got along great and after the first couple of sessions I dropped all pretenses. I remember one of those first sessions Purrfekt Paisa never got naked, I don't think I touched her. Purrfekt Paisa obviously enjoyed watching me bonk and eat out her friend, Scarlet. That may sound strange to some mongers, letting a girl come over like that and not having sex with her (I think I paid her 100 mil COP that time, and she was happy to get it), but it worked out great in the end, trust me. I like to see girls on a repeat basis and I want them to feel safe and be able to trust me, and I will cultivate that relationship. Personal preference, and it is consistent with my goal to spend lots of time in MDE.

When the sex gets hot and heavy with the three of us, I pay Purrfekt Paisa 150 mil COP. She was great about not watching the clock. The last time she came she stayed for four hours, and I tipped her 20 mil COP for a total of 170 mil. Scarlet tells me, and I believe her, that she enjoys the opportunity to catch up with her friends during our three-ways. I don't think it works out for her to do it on her own as easily.

Purrfekt Paisa is one of the few chicas with whom I have to be aware enough to catch myself from staring at her raw beauty. Of course that is subjective, but each time she has been with Scarlet and I, there have been brief moments when her beauty stuns me. I don't put girls on pedestals but I can appreciate their physical beauty in much the same way I would a fine work of art.

I don't have any way to get in touch with Purrfekt Paisa except thru Scarlet. Out of respect for Scarlet I would not see Purrfekt Paisa on my own. At least not yet. I have ended up having solos with chicas Scarlet initially brought over for three-ways, but when that happens they do not supplant Scarlet in her Number Two ranking, demz the rulez. That may also sound strange at first but the trust it creates between Scarlet and I means she continues to bring me a steady string of sexy, good looking girls, such as Hot Housewife, Silky, Sexy-ologist, and Vanessa who come to mind off the top of my head, and I am sure there are more. Ostee Out and Keep On Keepin' On! Don't forget I love you guys whether you feel it or not!

[QUOTE=JustTK;2618257]There are lots of nasty pieces of work on this forum. Its the USA race to extremism. Love or hate, no place in between. That is the new zietgiest. I can only suggest you ignore them and chat with the firiendlier people.[/QUOTE]Yeah yeah, You seem to be the real hater here.
Like a broken record, Lol.
Maybe it's time to look in the mirror.
Case closed.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2618230]I suspect he (and others) are ..[/QUOTE]You mean PN and Ostee? Ostee is the other gringo who said he backuped everything to the cloud to avoid being checked. Take this information and make good use of it. Don't keep any photos that are illegal to be searched.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618203]What if you refuse to unlock your phone for them or your laptop? They can't get into either of mine because mine are encrypted so good luck to them.[/QUOTE]

I think you are forgetting you are in a foreign country and they can stop you from boarding.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2618198]I've never been to Thailand. Are most of the girls under 30 usually ok with prostitution as a semi pro at minimum. By semi pro I mean are there girls that want to make extra money but don't want to work at the bars. Instead they are cashiers at the mall or restaurant and wait for the right tourist to come along.[/QUOTE]You can search Thermae on youtube to find some videos. This is the place you will find them. Girls with day job.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2618198]
I have this image in my mind that all girls in Thailand that work at a mall or restaurant or okay with pay for play if you are dressed nice and are clean. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]This I think you are wrong, especially if it is outside of RLD.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2618198]I've never been to Thailand. Are most of the girls under 30 usually ok with prostitution as a semi pro at minimum. By semi pro I mean are there girls that want to make extra money but don't want to work at the bars. Instead they are cashiers at the mall or restaurant and wait for the right tourist to come along.

I have this image in my mind that all girls in Thailand that work at a mall or restaurant or okay with pay for play if you are dressed nice and are clean. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]I've also never been to Thailand. My opinion is that when most guys are talking about semi-pros they're just pros who also work another job. It's the same as when they talk about university students.

Did she accept money for sex? She's a prostitute. She might be a part time prostitute. She might be a prostitute who also owns a business. She might be a prostitute who has a taxable source of income. She might even be a prostitute pursuing higher education, but if you're paying her for sex, you get the picture.

Another of my opinions is that offering some woman money for sex while she is working a job unrelated to sex work, is not often a good idea. It's something to tiptoe around. And you need to read the room. You might just offend someone who wanted to get together with you.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2618223]You saw them pull people aside and perform these searches or someone you know told you about this?[/QUOTE]This is exactly what happened to me when I left Medellin but I wouldn't call it a strip search. My name was called over the intercom as the plane was preparing to board. I came to the counter and was told to walk down the tunnel and stop to see the security people prior to boarding the plane. I was told to remove any electronic devices and empty my pockets. I was given a police worthy pat down. By that I mean it was as invasive as a non strip search could be. I had to remove my shoes so they could be searched and my socks were checked as well. The people performing the searches appeared to be airport security as opposed to police. I was told that I was "randomly selected". However, the only other people I witnessed being searched were non-Colombians.

The only electronic devices I had were two cell phones and they did not ask me to unlock either one. After finding nothing, I was allowed to board the plane.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2618275]You can search Thermae on youtube to find some videos. This is the place you will find them. Girls with day job.

This I think you are wrong, especially if it is outside of RLD.[/QUOTE]The last time I was in BKK (about 2 years ago) I went by Therame cafe about 5 times, I had good success! Most have a regular job and are looking for extra money. I was one of the very few non-Asian there and it's very obvious to me they prefer Asian customers but I was able to have a good time. I think the damage was about 2500 baht or $75 for all night. Service was good but Latin women are hotter in bed and more passionate. I have no clue how it is today.

If you have a chance to spend a week in Medellin, then is it worth checking out Bogota for 2 days on your way back to US? Is the Monger scene big enough in Bogota to warrant a visit or once you have explored Medellin you have already hit the best that Colombia has to offer?

Please advise.

I am not too familiar with casa scene in Centro yet and unfortunately can speak only little bit of dirty Spanish LOL.

I want to ask you guys as to how do you negotiate extras such as DFK or Threesomes? Is this something you have to talk to "manager" before having a look at the girls?

Or do you need to negotiate with the ladies directly in the room?

Another thing I am not sure about is how to ensure that the woman I am choosing offers DFK, DATY, 69, chupa sin condom etc.

Can the experts please advise this casa virgin?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2618070]I also found a awesome love motel called Ibiza motel on google, has a strip pole right in the room.

Figured once I get some whatsapp this place might be more fun than my hotel LOL.

There seems to be good escort sites to, hopefully the girls really look like the pictures though.

I'm 35 lots of tats usually vibe good with the girls in DR / Montreal, end up smoking and chillin.

Anyone have experience with these sites? Good experiences or bad?

[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/medellin[/URL]

[URL]https://lacelestina.co/en/profiles/location/Medellin[/URL]

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/[/URL]

Will make sure to post a good review while I'm there, if anyone else is there 10/31 - 11/5 let me know, can link up for some food / drinks![/QUOTE]I had not run across "Lacelestina" until your post. If all those girls are for real then it's a great site. I texted the WA number and the service answered, not the girl. My problem with the site is that there is very little information on what the girls will actually do. That makes me a little suspicious when you can't negotiate for a level of service until the girl arrives. There are a couple that I would really like to try but I hesitate with so little info.

This is good advice from Nounce and Pollo Negro. I was in Medellin just a couple of months before the Covid shutdown. In the airport, I and a few others were picked to come out of the line and have our luggage thoroughly searched. They asked me to log onto my laptop and quickly glanced at it and let me proceed to board. I was there again just a month ago and it did not happen. Luck of the draw I guess.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2618269]You mean PN and Ostee? Ostee is the other gringo who said he backuped everything to the cloud to avoid being checked. Take this information and make good use of it. Don't keep any photos that are illegal to be searched.



I think you are forgetting you are in a foreign country and they can stop you from boarding.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2618430] In the airport, I and a few others were picked to come out of the line and have our luggage thoroughly searched. They asked me to log onto my laptop and quickly glanced at it and let me proceed to board..[/QUOTE]Although its a possibility, I really doiubt they are looking for photos. The police have more pressing matters in Colombia. I imagine they might be looking for evidence of more serious crimes like child trafacking rings, drug smuggling etc. It could be that they find photos by chance, but I doubt that is the goal.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2618230]I suspect he (and others) are just trying to dissuade the 'gringos' that everyone seems to hate so much. Although why they would particularly be concerned with strip / phone / computer searches than than the "true" Colombian mongers is beyond me. Honestly, never felt so unwelcome or unwanted on a mongering forum before. I've been to SEA many times and want to expand my mongering adventures but my history and lack of experience with all things Colombia I guess makes me one of the stereotypical 'gringos' that everyone hates.[/QUOTE]No, they're giving you a friendly warning to not keep photos of chicas on your phone or laptop. If the authorities want to, they can put you through hell trying to prove things about those girls. It's happened before.

FWIW, I see no reason to take fotos of girls I'm with. But if I did, I would load them to the cloud and get them off my device before going through airport security.

[QUOTE=PineTree;2618405]I had not run across "Lacelestina" until your post. If all those girls are for real then it's a great site. I texted the WA number and the service answered, not the girl. My problem with the site is that there is very little information on what the girls will actually do. That makes me a little suspicious when you can't negotiate for a level of service until the girl arrives. There are a couple that I would really like to try but I hesitate with so little info.[/QUOTE]They detail all the information under services. What more did you want.

[QUOTE=Omigawd;2618374]If you have a chance to spend a week in Medellin, then is it worth checking out Bogota for 2 days on your way back to US? Is the Monger scene big enough in Bogota to warrant a visit or once you have explored Medellin you have already hit the best that Colombia has to offer?

Please advise.[/QUOTE]If I were you I would skip Bogota. A week in Medellin is not a lot of time so definitely spend the extra 2 days in Medellin. Bogota is a big city and IMHO people are not as warm as people from Medellin

[QUOTE=Omigawd;2618374]If you have a chance to spend a week in Medellin, then is it worth checking out Bogota for 2 days on your way back to US? Is the Monger scene big enough in Bogota to warrant a visit or once you have explored Medellin you have already hit the best that Colombia has to offer?

Please advise.[/QUOTE]The answer is definitely yes, or definitely no, although it could be just maybe.

There are a lot of things to consider.

If you're flying from Atlanta, Delta has a daily non-stop to and from Bogota. I believe there are also non-stops from Houston, Miami and Orlando (on Spirit). I think Medellin only has non-stop flights from Miami and Orlando.

I prefer Delta, but I also prefer Medellin. My next trip I might spend my last 2 days in Bogota and return on Delta, but fly into Medellin on American. So where you're coming from and returning to might be a reason to spend 2 days in Bogota. Or it might be a reason to avoid Bogota.

If you prefer the street girls over other venues, you might want to spend 2 days in Bogota to compare. You might find it more to your liking than Medellin.

If you're wanting to take some touristy photos to show people who ask about your trip, you might want to spend 2 days in Bogota. In a few hours you can visit Monserrate and the Gold Museum and you'll have plenty of pictures to show. Or you could stay in Medellin and visit Comuna 13 and Parque Arvi.

If you're just going for the women, there's no need to split your trip. It's unlikely you'll go through all the talent in Medellin in a week.

[QUOTE=Plan77;2618396]I am not too familiar with casa scene in Centro yet and unfortunately can speak only little bit of dirty Spanish LOL.

I want to ask you guys as to how do you negotiate extras such as DFK or Threesomes? Is this something you have to talk to "manager" before having a look at the girls?

Or do you need to negotiate with the ladies directly in the room?

Another thing I am not sure about is how to ensure that the woman I am choosing offers DFK, DATY, 69, chupa sin condom etc.

Can the experts please advise this casa virgin?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]My method for getting those things is to not go to the casas. Those are all things which are pretty easy to get through Facebook girls.

There used to be a casa where, if Nancy knew you and liked you, you could just about guarantee you would get the kind of service you want. However, I haven't seen a report about Lindas Chicas in a long time. If they are still open, getting Nancy to like you isn't going to be easy.

I wouldn't even try to get most of those things at a casa in one visit. Instead, if I wanted to go the casa route, I'd sample girls until I found one I clicked with and then build from there, either by getting her to come to my place when not working, or by offering tips for her to add to her repertoire on your next visit. It might take you a few sessions to get it all. Once you have her at the level you want, talk to her about a threesome and be specific with what you want. Let her pick the other girl and let her know you'll be generous if it exceeds your expectations.

DATY and 69 I've not had a problem getting in casas. BBBJ and DFK I've rarely gotten in casas. One notable success was a girl I picked solely for her attitude. Before she could reach for the condom for CBJ I went down on her and apparently I did it right. She went from light kisses to tonguing my tonsils, gave a long enthusiastic BBBJ and then fucked me like a Nine Inch Nails song. We were in one of the street front rooms at Energy Spa and there were probably people stopping in the street because of the noise.

One thing is, I will never negotiate for DFK or BBBJ. If I've got to negotiate a price for those things, it's not worth it. She's only going to do enough to get paid. I feel the same way about the faked orgasms. If it's real, great. If she's just faking it, forget it.

[QUOTE=PineTree;2618405]I had not run across "Lacelestina" until your post. If all those girls are for real then it's a great site. I texted the WA number and the service answered, not the girl. My problem with the site is that there is very little information on what the girls will actually do. That makes me a little suspicious when you can't negotiate for a level of service until the girl arrives. There are a couple that I would really like to try but I hesitate with so little info.[/QUOTE]And if the mail I just got from Publisher's Clearing House is for real, I'm going to be retiring soon!

I'm going to use the rental car analogy again.

When you reserve a rental car, you pick the class of car you want. The company probably has 2 or 3 models in that class and several of each. The car you actually get will probably be in the range of the car you wanted, but it may be the wrong color, it may have some dings or scratches, but it's going to meet the basic requirements. What car you get depends on what car is available. If you wanted a BMW X5 SUV but the only car they have available is a Kia Picanto, you're either going to be driving a Kia, or you have to start the process over.

And when you go through a service to get a girl, the girl you get will be the girl who is available. She might be the girl you wanted, she might be better than the girl you wanted, or she might be worse. She might be willing to do everything you want, or not. But the service knows, once the girl is standing at your door, they're getting paid.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2618435]Although its a possibility, I really doiubt they are looking for photos. The police have more pressing matters in Colombia. I imagine they might be looking for evidence of more serious crimes like child trafacking rings, drug smuggling etc. It could be that they find photos by chance, but I doubt that is the goal.[/QUOTE]The police have more pressing matters everywhere, but they always seem to make time for other things. Locally we've set a new record for murders for the last 3 years. This year we broke last year's record in September. Yet the police still found time to set up and arrest a 60 year old Chinese woman for giving a handjob.

What they're looking for or doing doesn't need to make sense.

I arrived Saturday, will be staying for the week.

If any one wants to hunt with a wingman let me know, I am mainly into casas.

I lost my old account login information so this is my new account. This trip I'm trying out regular SeekingArragement girls, figured I'd see what the $100/ month membership gets me. Well, I got 4 phone numbers of some girls 20-33 years old interested in me and a sugar daddy arrangement.

Where are some nice spots to bring these girls out to for the first time meeting to feel them out, and see if I want to bring them back to my hotel? Was thinking of some nice dining, cocktails, cool places to hang-out, maybe some dancing. I have afternoon and also evening dates. I think for the afternoon dates, it would be a nice spot to hang out. For the evening, I'd take them out drinking and also a nice dinner.

Recommendations for spots?

[QUOTE=Omigawd;2618374]If you have a chance to spend a week in Medellin, then is it worth checking out Bogota for 2 days on your way back to US? Is the Monger scene big enough in Bogota to warrant a visit or once you have explored Medellin you have already hit the best that Colombia has to offer?

Please advise.[/QUOTE]There are many times more working girls in Bogota than in Medellin. It is 5 or more times the size of Medellin though. So it makes sense.

[QUOTE=Plan77;2618396]I am not too familiar with casa scene in Centro yet and unfortunately can speak only little bit of dirty Spanish LOL.

I want to ask you guys as to how do you negotiate extras such as DFK or Threesomes? Is this something you have to talk to "manager" before having a look at the girls?

Or do you need to negotiate with the ladies directly in the room?

Another thing I am not sure about is how to ensure that the woman I am choosing offers DFK, DATY, 69, chupa sin condom etc.

Can the experts please advise this casa virgin?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]After you see the lineup you can ask the mamasan or whatever to see the girl you are interested in and see what all she's willing to do and how much extra she wants. They'll send you the girl for this, but it's unusual. The price is so low for a half hour, $13 that most guys will just take what they can get for that if they cannot come to terms on the rest in the room. You might be able to get all of the above for 100 mil extra, while some will just want to do the chupa sin condom for 50 mil more.

As I've said before, the Medellin casas aren't much given to GFE though it can happen. The BBBJ for whatever reason can be easier to come by than the deep kissing or DATY.

[QUOTE=Omigawd;2618374]... then is it worth checking out Bogota for 2 days on your way back to US? ..[/QUOTE]Get a tour from Woodman09. It will be worth it for the experience, then you can decide yourself for future trip.

[QUOTE=PineTree;2618405]I had not run across "Lacelestina" until your post. If all those girls are for real then it's a great site. I texted the WA number and the service answered, not the girl. My problem with the site is that there is very little information on what the girls will actually do. That makes me a little suspicious when you can't negotiate for a level of service until the girl arrives. There are a couple that I would really like to try but I hesitate with so little info.[/QUOTE]The couple of times I used this site I cleared everything with the service first and the girl absolutely complied with everything when I met her, I had two or three solid sessions. I would suggest giving it a go as one of the girls I met in Bogota was so hot and compliant I still think about that time a couple of years later, she was incredible hot and fucked like an animal. It's a lot more expensive now than it was but if you see a girl you really like the look of my advice would be go for it, risk it not going well and then report back here, I have no regrets although since then have generally preferred cheaper more 'normal' looking chicas (just my personal preference).

The White House released new plans today that take a layered approach to improve the safety of international travel to the United States ahead of the busy Thanksgiving travel season.

Starting November 8, international travelers flying into the US will be required to show proof of vaccination, or prove that they meet very limited exemption requirements.

Along with a vaccination record — which can be a digital or paper certificate — vaccinated passengers and children traveling with them will also have to show that they've gotten a negative COVID-19 test within 3 days of boarding the plane.

Travelers will also need to prove that they were vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine authorized by the US or the World Health Organization (WHO) for emergency use.

International passengers who can't show proof that they are fully vaccinated and qualify for an exemption will have to provide negative test results within a day of departure.

Unvaccinated US citizens or lawful permanent residents will need a negative test within 1 day of departure.

Didn't know that October is the one of the rainiest months and one of the months with the least number of sunshine hours. The afternoon rains makes a lot of places a muddy mess and makes going out just a little more uncomfortable. A little research beforehand would have told me, but the whole City of Eternal Spring thing and the city being near the equator caught me off guard. Was here in December and January previously and those were definitely better months unless you prefer rain and darkness.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2618305]I've also never been to Thailand. My opinion is that when most guys are talking about semi-pros they're just pros who also work another job. It's the same as when they talk about university students.

Did she accept money for sex? She's a prostitute. She might be a part time prostitute. She might be a prostitute who also owns a business. She might be a prostitute who has a taxable source of income. She might even be a prostitute pursuing higher education, but if you're paying her for sex, you get the picture.

Another of my opinions is that offering some woman money for sex while she is working a job unrelated to sex work, is not often a good idea. It's something to tiptoe around. And you need to read the room. You might just offend someone who wanted to get together with you.[/QUOTE]That's my point. A semi pro, and there has been a lot of debate here on if the term should even exist, is a girl that doesn't work at a high mileage bar. That would be Hong Kong in Tijuana, a terma in Brazil, or a casa or strip club in Medellin. You get the picture. It's a girl in a customer service industry that sees a tourist she is attracted too and flirts very heavy to get him to pay her for the night. The guy should know what's up.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2618532]...... Locally we've set a new record for murders for the last 3 years. This year we broke last year's record in September. .....[/QUOTE]Medellin? What are the numbers?

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2618480]They detail all the information under services. What more did you want.[/QUOTE]Most details listed very few services compared to photoprepagos. I didn't see a lot of besos boca etc in those descriptions of services but I'm betting most of the girls would say that they will do that. Whether or not they actually will is another issue. Thanks for all the replies. Whether it's an agency or casa I will write a report. I'll be in Poblado in a few days.

[QUOTE=ElMoreno92;2618609]Medellin? What are the numbers?[/QUOTE]No. Not Medellin. Locally for me. The 60 year old Chinese woman getting arrested for giving a handjob should have been a dead giveaway I wasn't talking about Medellin.

[QUOTE=Hickup1;2618540]I lost my old account login information so this is my new account. This trip I'm trying out regular SeekingArragement girls, figured I'd see what the $100/ month membership gets me. Well, I got 4 phone numbers of some girls 20-33 years old interested in me and a sugar daddy arrangement.

Where are some nice spots to bring these girls out to for the first time meeting to feel them out, and see if I want to bring them back to my hotel? Was thinking of some nice dining, cocktails, cool places to hang-out, maybe some dancing. I have afternoon and also evening dates. I think for the afternoon dates, it would be a nice spot to hang out. For the evening, I'd take them out drinking and also a nice dinner.

Recommendations for spots?[/QUOTE]It would be helpful, if you're looking for recommendations, to post what area of Medellin you'll be staying in. Recommendations in Provenza aren't so helpful if you're staying in Laureles.

Assuming you'll be somewhere close to Parque Lleras an excellent night time dinner and drinks place is El Botanico. Don't get it confused with La Botanica which is a decent place to meet for lunch. El Botanico is a bit pricey, but if you're going the sugar daddy route, it should be within your budget.

Thank you to everyone who put me right about the airport search comments. I guess I wasn't feeling the love in the forum as a newbie to Colombian mongering and I read too much into the comments. Sorry.

I have nothing to hide at the airport. And I keep my mongering private, and don't feel the need for explicit photos. It's just not my thing.

I know I will stand out like a sore thumb as a (celtic) gringo. So I'll expect the extra attention when I leave!

[QUOTE=JohnHancock11;2618325]This is exactly what happened to me when I left Medellin but I wouldn't call it a strip search. My name was called over the intercom as the plane was preparing to board. I came to the counter and was told to walk down the tunnel and stop to see the security people prior to boarding the plane. I was told to remove any electronic devices and empty my pockets. I was given a police worthy pat down. By that I mean it was as invasive as a non strip search could be. I had to remove my shoes so they could be searched and my socks were checked as well. The people performing the searches appeared to be airport security as opposed to police. I was told that I was "randomly selected". However, the only other people I witnessed being searched were non-Colombians.

The only electronic devices I had were two cell phones and they did not ask me to unlock either one. After finding nothing, I was allowed to board the plane.[/QUOTE]Was that an international flight to US or domestic? I believe chances are less if its a domestic flight. But cannot rule it out completely.

Tried a few casas from the map at noon period.

-Amonia: all 5 or less, about 9 girls, nothing caught my eye.

-Paris club: closed.

-Travesias: even poorer selection, passed.

-Club de amiga sexy: one 7 girl had a nice smile, called Paula, had a good personality and willing to please.

I walked around afterwards, coffee etc, checked the bars north of boteri plaza at 3 pm, nothing to talk about as I only took a glance and there was no action, maybe I'll check later next time.

Rest some then shopped some stuff for a tinder date, she apologized because of some life shit, I called one of the street walkers I got her number while shopping.

We agreed on 300 k for as long as I want, but she gets up to leave after first shot, we had a fight because she wouldn't take 150 k because it was less than an hour.

Sent her out yelling with 200 k.

Sex was amazing, she had a slim tall body 170 cm and short hair, just the way I like.

Raining heavy outside, doubt there is any street action but I'll go out to explore and pick up numbers for emergency's.

No Spanish at all, so I am just that dumb ignorant gringo who acts like rules don't apply LOL, sweet Colombian people always trying to help, I bet I would be shot if I pulled same no-English acts in Texas LOL.

My interpretation of the Medscape story below, when you return to the USA starting Nov 8 you will need to show:

Proof of vaccination and negative Covid test within 72 hours of boarding the plane. That was the same as before except they have added proof of vaccination.

If you haven't been vaccinated then the negative Covid test result has to be within 24 hours, instead of 72 hours as before. I guess that is sort of their way of penalizing those who are not vaccinated.

Please correct me if you have a different take on it or I am missing something.

And you can basically forget about the "limited exemptions." Those are rare situations such as you are in a study about Covid, or you have a documented severe allergy to the vaccine, and a few other very circumstances that will not apply to members here 99.994252259% of the time.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2618578]The White House released new plans today that take a layered approach to improve the safety of international travel to the United States ahead of the busy Thanksgiving travel season.

Starting November 8, international travelers flying into the US will be required to show proof of vaccination, or prove that they meet very limited exemption requirements.

Along with a vaccination record which can be a digital or paper certificate vaccinated passengers and children traveling with them will also have to show that they've gotten a negative COVID-19 test within 3 days of boarding the plane.

Travelers will also need to prove that they were vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine authorized by the US or the World Health Organization (WHO) for emergency use.

International passengers who can't show proof that they are fully vaccinated and qualify for an exemption will have to provide negative test results within a day of departure.

Unvaccinated US citizens or lawful permanent residents will need a negative test within 1 day of departure.[/QUOTE]News like this deserves some random, gratuitous fotos, jeje. Now that I saw the foto again, the 3-ways with Hot Housewife, we are in the last foto, were just as hot as the ones with Purrfekt Paisa I posted earlier. Toss up, jeje. And the hottie in the striped pants in the next to last foto, she is another chica who Scarlet brought over for a 3-way that I had forgotten about because she only came over twice, but who I would love to see again for a third, fourth, or fifth or more times again. She rocks lingerie as good as any chica I have met. And remember Sunny? That is her in the bathroom in the white mini-skirt, on our first "date" together in a Love Motel, I think the Zona Rosa opposite the Vera Cruz church. That is the landmark church at Ground Zero, also shown in a separate foto. Sunny is vying for a numbered position in my line-up and she might get it but I cannot bring her in higher than number ten, maybe number nine. Good for me, don't know if she will be happy with that. We will see. Don't have to decide any of that before I return to Medellin.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2618269]I think you are forgetting you are in a foreign country and they can stop you from boarding.[/QUOTE]Sure, they can. They can't keep me from leaving the country, that's kidnapping. Also an international issue since I would be straight on my way to the embassy. Believe it or not, the embassy actually sticks up for your interests.

[QUOTE=ElViajero;2618577]The couple of times I used this site I cleared everything with the service first and the girl absolutely complied with everything when I met her, I had two or three solid sessions. I would suggest giving it a go as one of the girls I met in Bogota was so hot and compliant I still think about that time a couple of years later, she was incredible hot and fucked like an animal. It's a lot more expensive now than it was but if you see a girl you really like the look of my advice would be go for it, risk it not going well and then report back here, I have no regrets although since then have generally preferred cheaper more 'normal' looking chicas (just my personal preference).[/QUOTE]

How much money we're talking about in USD for girls from Lacelestina?

edit: never mind. found their site. prices aren't terrible. between $65-$85 for higher end broads. but the real discount is in the 5 hour slots, under $200. that's not bad for some girls of that caliber. i know that that's still much higher than a street/bar girl, but its not gonna make me broke. you should see what these craigslist whales charge here in the states lol.

[QUOTE=DogLife;2618644]Was that an international flight to US or domestic? I believe chances are less if its a domestic flight. But cannot rule it out completely.[/QUOTE]Medellin to USA.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618707]Sure, they can. They can't keep me from leaving the country, that's kidnapping. Also an international issue since I would be straight on my way to the embassy. Believe it or not, the embassy actually sticks up for your interests.[/QUOTE]Yes, they can keep you from leaving the country. It's not called kidnapping, it's called detention and it's perfectly legal. It happens all the time all over the world. Just recently a UK citizen was detained in the UAE because they found some bottles of CBD vape fluid in the trunk of his car. He could end up spending the next 25 years in prison.

If you get pulled aside for a search at the airport, it's in your best interest to comply and to have anything illegal. It's also in your best interest to not start threatening them with the embassy. You smile, make some small talk and show them you aren't involved in anything illegal. Because the "you can't touch me or I'll tell my embassy" attitude will not only ruin your day, it puts a target on every gringo.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2618587]Didn't know that October is the one of the rainiest months and one of the months with the least number of sunshine hours. The afternoon rains makes a lot of places a muddy mess and makes going out just a little more uncomfortable. A little research beforehand would have told me, but the whole City of Eternal Spring thing and the city being near the equator caught me off guard. Was here in December and January previously and those were definitely better months unless you prefer rain and darkness.[/QUOTE]Says it is supposed to rain my entire trip 10/31 - 11/5, is it rain all day there? Or like jamacia where it comes and goes?

Definitely will be a bummer, I was debating rerouting to DR for nice weather but I have never tried Colombia, so I think to keep plans is best.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618707]Sure, they can. They can't keep me from leaving the country, that's kidnapping. Also an international issue since I would be straight on my way to the embassy. Believe it or not, the embassy actually sticks up for your interests.[/QUOTE]Wish you can take this post back, everything in it sounds like the exact person they look for! Good luck with your kidnapping claim and let us all know how quickly the embassy helped you out (they should be their within 20-30 minutes) oh and believe me they can and will stop you from leaving the country and make you miss your flight, the minute you open your mouth with your kidnapping and embassy claims, I'm guessing you never been their?

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2618777]Says it is supposed to rain my entire trip 10/31 - 11/5, is it rain all day there? Or like jamacia where it comes and goes?

Definitely will be a bummer, I was debating rerouting to DR for nice weather but I have never tried Colombia, so I think to keep plans is best.[/QUOTE]I am there right now, it is very nice and bright weather all morning and afternoon, then raining sporadically all evening and night, I actually find it enjoyable and refreshing.

[QUOTE=Iponux;2618666]Tried a few casas from the map at noon period.

-Amonia: all 5 or less, about 9 girls, nothing caught my eye.

-Paris club: closed.

-Travesias: even poorer selection, passed.

-Club de amiga sexy: one 7 girl had a nice smile, called Paula, had a good personality and willing to please.

I walked around afterwards, coffee etc, checked the bars north of boteri plaza at 3 pm, nothing to talk about as I only took a glance and there was no action, maybe I'll check later next time.

Rest some then shopped some stuff for a tinder date, she apologized because of some life shit, I called one of the street walkers I got her number while shopping.

We agreed on 300 k for as long as I want, but she gets up to leave after first shot, we had a fight because she wouldn't take 150 k because it was less than an hour.

Sent her out yelling with 200 k.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing info about casas. Please do let us know which ones you visited and liked.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2618230]I suspect he (and others) are just trying to dissuade the 'gringos' that everyone seems to hate so much.Honestly, never felt so unwelcome or unwanted on a mongering forum before. I've been to SEA many times and want to expand my mongering adventures but my history and lack of experience with all things Colombia I guess makes me one of the stereotypical 'gringos' that everyone hates.[/QUOTE]To give you a little perspective. Up until the Pandemic, El Centro in Medellin was not being frequented with many foreigners, albeit there has been quite an increase over the past five years, but nothing like during the last six months. This has occured as a result of SEA being closed, and a lot of the mongers who frequent SEA have shown up in Medellin. As your aware mongering in SEA is very different than in Colombia. Unfortunately with all the newbie Colombian mongers here, some of the girls working in Centro have become what I call "gringo hunters" as the newbie Colombian mongers have been paying more and the girls coming up with rules and time constraints, and all kinds of other crap that didn't exist before.

So if you can put yourself in my shoes it's upsetting, at least for me selfishly to see what is happening here, albeit it doesn't really effect me personally to much. Up until a few years ago I considered Centro to almost be like a private playground reserve, being one of a handful of foreigners enjoying it, while most people were staying away. You also need to be cognizant that Colombia is not like SEA, with the main difference being that in SEA all the clients are foreigners versus in Centro the clients are all locals. Hence seeing a potential transformation in Centro is unsettling, but will never happen, and hopefully SEA will fully re-open and the crowds will return there. And don't get me wrong, I love Beach Road in Pattaya, and can't wait to return as well.

So the landscape has changed a bit, not to the good in my opinion, which I'm sure others share, but on the other hand I understand that you "SEA" guys basically have not had many other mongering choices in a sense and have come to Colombia.

Please don't take anything you read here on this board personally, and you need some pretty thick skin at times.

First off I love the map that was put together and updated, I got the one from the Rio thread and it was essential for the trips I took last year.

I'm heading to medellin for Christmas / new years, and have been ramping up my research as it will be my first trip, my issue lies withing weeding through all the info on the map.

So my question is, is there a way to navigate just the casas, nightclubs, strip clubs? Essentially the places that have girls to either pay for or freelancers to pick up. It seems like there's tons of places like love motels, swingers clubs, hotels, SW areas, and the icons crossover from different places.

If there's a way to turn on certain icons on the map I'm not finding it, I could alter the map if I know the places and condense it for anyone looking for a simpler map, but these places are not clear to me.

Any advice here is greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Iponux;2618666]Tried a few casas from the map at noon period.

We agreed on 300 k for as long as I want, but she gets up to leave after first shot, we had a fight because she wouldn't take 150 k because it was less than an hour.

Sent her out yelling with 200 k.

Sex was amazing, she had a slim tall body 170 cm and short hair, just the way I like.

No Spanish at all, so I am just that dumb ignorant gringo who acts like rules don't apply LOL, sweet Colombian people always trying to help, I bet I would be shot if I pulled same no-English acts in Texas LOL.[/QUOTE]One of the most basic guidelines in this hobby is don't make a deal for long-time if you haven't sampled the chica short-time first. There are multiple reasons, which have been explained on this forum.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2618777]Says it is supposed to rain my entire trip 10/31 - 11/5, is it rain all day there? Or like jamacia where it comes and goes?

Definitely will be a bummer, I was debating rerouting to DR for nice weather but I have never tried Colombia, so I think to keep plans is best.[/QUOTE]The weather forecast for most days in Medellin is rain, regardless of time of year. That doesn't mean you won't have nice weather. It just rains a lot, though sometimes for short duration and / or overnight.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618708]How much money we're talking about in USD for girls from Lacelestina?

edit: never mind. found their site. prices aren't terrible. between $65-$85 for higher end broads. but the real discount is in the 5 hour slots, under $200. that's not bad for some girls of that caliber. i know that that's still much higher than a street/bar girl, but its not gonna make me broke. you should see what these craigslist whales charge here in the states lol.[/QUOTE]The fact that they advertise with USD prices is bothersome. Not saying it can't be a good time. And I wouldn't commit to more than one hour with a chica I haven't sampled previously.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2618824]This has occured as a result of SEA being closed, and a lot of the mongers who frequent SEA have shown up in Medellin. As your aware mongering in SEA is very different than in Colombia. Unfortunately with all the newbie Colombian mongers here, some of the girls working in Centro have become what I call "gringo hunters" as the newbie Colombian mongers have been paying more and the girls coming up with rules and time constraints, and all kinds of other crap that didn't exist before.[/QUOTE]Finally someone says it. I expect markets to self-normalize once SEA opens back up again. I don't think you'll see a sharp drop-off in prices, but we will get a gradual return back down to a new baseline. It will take about 8-10 months after SEA opens back up.

[QUOTE=Combo;2618839]One of the most basic guidelines in this hobby is don't make a deal for long-time if you haven't sampled the chica short-time first. There are multiple reasons, which have been explained on this forum..[/QUOTE]And I do appreciate every little gem (advice) I find on this forum, certainly made my trip much more enjoyable.

However I am constrained on time not money, so I will prolly keep ending in this situation.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618707]Sure, they can. They can't keep me from leaving the country, that's kidnapping. Also an international issue since I would be straight on my way to the embassy. Believe it or not, the embassy actually sticks up for your interests.[/QUOTE]You're joking right? They can charge you with something, put you in jail. You will eventually get a chance to call the embassy, maybe. But you will not be free to make your way to the embassy.

Any country can do that because their laws apply.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2618774]Yes, they can keep you from leaving the country. It's not called kidnapping, it's called detention and it's perfectly legal. It happens all the time all over the world. Just recently a UK citizen was detained in the UAE because they found some bottles of CBD vape fluid in the trunk of his car. He could end up spending the next 25 years in prison.

If you get pulled aside for a search at the airport, it's in your best interest to comply and to have anything illegal. It's also in your best interest to not start threatening them with the embassy. You smile, make some small talk and show them you aren't involved in anything illegal. Because the "you can't touch me or I'll tell my embassy" attitude will not only ruin your day, it puts a target on every gringo.[/QUOTE]Except I'm not carrying any "cbd" or other substance that may be illegal. And no, they can't detain me forever. They can't confiscate my possessions and let me go either. Its in THEIR best interest not to do that because if the word gets out this is happening less people will come to a country that wants to go through your laptop and cellphone for no reason (I also doubt this is happening at all).

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618861]Except I'm not carrying any "cbd" or other substance that may be illegal. And no, they can't detain me forever. They can't confiscate my possessions and let me go either. Its in THEIR best interest not to do that because if the word gets out this is happening less people will come to a country that wants to go through your laptop and cellphone for no reason (I also doubt this is happening at all).[/QUOTE]I could give you an example. But I won't. But believe me, if they charge you with anything to do with sex the US embassy will not be quick to come to your aid. They can certainly detain you to complete whatever sentence they apply if you are found guilty. And they can hold you pre-trial for a long time. One who will remain nameless here spent over 2 years in penitentiary before his case was heard. And there was nothing that the US government would or could do. And the word is already out. There are many Americans in jail in foreign countries for various crimes, or charged with various crimes.

One of the hazards of travel is that when you are in a foreign country their laws apply, not laws from the US or wherever you are from.

[QUOTE=RacShack;2618803]Wish you can take this post back, everything in it sounds like the exact person they look for! Good luck with your kidnapping claim and let us all know how quickly the embassy helped you out (they should be their within 20-30 minutes) oh and believe me they can and will stop you from leaving the country and make you miss your flight, the minute you open your mouth with your kidnapping and embassy claims, I'm guessing you never been their?[/QUOTE]I know they can make me miss my flight, but they can't hold me indefinitely over absolutely nothing.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2618866]I could give you an example. But I won't. But believe me, if they charge you with anything to do with sex the US embassy will not be quick to come to your aid. They can certainly detain you to complete whatever sentence they apply if you are found guilty. And they can hold you pre-trial for a long time. One who will remain nameless here spent over 2 years in penitentiary before his case was heard. And there was nothing that the US government would or could do. And the word is already out. There are many Americans in jail in foreign countries for various crimes, or charged with various crimes.

One of the hazards of travel is that when you are in a foreign country their laws apply, not laws from the US or wherever you are from.[/QUOTE]What are they going to charge someone with that refuses to unlock their cellphone?

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618868]What are they going to charge someone with that refuses to unlock their cellphone?[/QUOTE]I agree. Many guys in this board will travel to the ends of the earth for some cheap pussy, but when they are faced with the slightest adversity they fold as quick as they can and are willing to pay any price to make it go away. If you have not done anything then the police or immigration are not going to do shit to you. I have been to Colombia way over 100 times and nobody has ever asked me about seeing any electronics. I have even been pulled in the back room in Medellin for a random body scan and questioning.

If you have not done anything then don't be a punk. I have been pulled over by police in Dominican Republic over 20 times trying to shake me down. I have given them ZERO. And one guy even pulled his gun out threatening to shoot out my tire. I don't scare easily when I know I have done nothing wrong. And if push ever came to shove then when I get around their superiors I will say how they wanted money, but since I refused they said they would make me have problems. You can lie the same way they can.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618868]What are they going to charge someone with that refuses to unlock their cellphone?[/QUOTE]They don't have to "charge" you with anything. They can just hold you for a year pending investigation, no bail, and can get extensions on that if they want. In the meantime you are in a rat hole with no beds or changes of clothes or means to wash them, and no food unless you have money to buy it. You aren't in Kansas anymore Dorothy.

[QUOTE=Iponux;2618666]Tried a few casas from the map at noon period.

-Amonia: all 5 or less, about 9 girls, nothing caught my eye.

-Paris club: closed.

-Travesias: even poorer selection, passed.

-Club de amiga sexy: one 7 girl had a nice smile, called Paula, had a good personality and willing to please.

I walked around afterwards, coffee etc, checked the bars north of boteri plaza at 3 pm, nothing to talk about as I only took a glance and there was no action, maybe I'll check later next time.

Rest some then shopped some stuff for a tinder date, she apologized because of some life shit, I called one of the street walkers I got her number while shopping.[/QUOTE]"Sent her out yelling with 200 k" is not a good situation to put yourself into. It might have been created by your lack of Spanish, or by not grasping the typical street girls mindset. Surfer500 or Knowledge can give a better opinion than I.

Typically those girls get paid a small amount, 50 k and less, for a quick session, then they're back on the street looking for the next customer. As long as you wanted her to stay probably never registered to her, because that's not how she does business. The only thing that did register was your willingness to pay 300 k.

You might consider offering a more typical price and if she turns out to be a keeper once in the room, offering more for a longer period. I'd also suggest, not leaving it open ended, because she might not be able to stay as long as you want. Either agree on the number of loads (polvos works), a specific length of time, or until a certain time.

[QUOTE=Ghost1;2618833]First off I love the map that was put together and updated, I got the one from the Rio thread and it was essential for the trips I took last year.

I'm heading to medellin for Christmas / new years, and have been ramping up my research as it will be my first trip, my issue lies withing weeding through all the info on the map.

So my question is, is there a way to navigate just the casas, nightclubs, strip clubs? Essentially the places that have girls to either pay for or freelancers to pick up. It seems like there's tons of places like love motels, swingers clubs, hotels, SW areas, and the icons crossover from different places.

If there's a way to turn on certain icons on the map I'm not finding it, I could alter the map if I know the places and condense it for anyone looking for a simpler map, but these places are not clear to me.

Any advice here is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Where you found the map you should also find the PDF list. There everything is more organized. What I've done is take the addresses from the list, and add them to my own list of saved places. To make things easier I also used Google StreetView to capture a picture of the front door to save with the location. That way I can easily identify the blue door at New Life, the red door at Aiffe and the brown door at Club Amigas Sexxy.

This way I have a personalized map with only the few places I'm interested in.

I tried 2 more casas, they were not on the map.

1- unknown name casa, had like 4-5 chicas, very nice body shots on WhatsApp but everything went south when I looked at their faces, including my erection.

Prices:

Location: 100/ HR 70/ HR.

Cra. 68 A #43-13, Medellin, Antioquia.

White door across the street.

2- Angels casa, I didn't find it on the map or pdf file.

They have a very good selection, I chose a bomb shell Venezuelan called Gabriella, this place will definitely be seeing me more.

Prices: 130/ HR 80/30 min + 20 or 30 for oral w / o condom.

Location: address they gave me was very wonky on map, got late because of it and the original girl I reserved got some other John.

It is the grey door right next to drogueria dar salud la 81.

2nd floor.

Late last night: around 12 pm.

Got another street walkers, sweet baby face and blond hair with extensions, 150 k after negotiations and 2 pimps trying to syphon more money of me.

Funny thing is that she spend another 40 minutes with me trying to take off her painful hair extensions.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2618884]I agree. Many guys in this board will travel to the ends of the earth for some cheap pussy, but when they are faced with the slightest adversity they fold as quick as they can and are willing to pay any price to make it go away. If you have not done anything then the police or immigration are not going to do shit to you. I have been to Colombia way over 100 times and nobody has ever asked me about seeing any electronics. I have even been pulled in the back room in Medellin for a random body scan and questioning.[/QUOTE]I've been reading these posts and have never had an issue either entering or leaving Colombia and am surprised that people are getting pulled aside and searched.

What I do know is that in Medellin immediately after entering the International gate at the Rio Negro airport, and just prior to security, there has always been a Colombian policeman who looks over your Passport, asks where your going, or asks nothing at all, and then motions you to one of the scanners and belts. I have typically witnessed people not carrying USA Passports, seems like primarily Colombians flying internationally sent to the belt / line and the police go thru their carry on belongings after they have been x rayed.

I typically when they see my USA Passport am waived thru with no questions asked, and have never seen the police going thru electronics firing up computers or going thru phones of anybody. I suppose if something pops up at immigration which is immediately after security that people may get detained, but have never seen or heard of any searches / detentions at the "tunnels" but sounds like something new and might be more of a terrorism thing which is fine as far as I'm concerned.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618861]Except I'm not carrying any "cbd" or other substance that may be illegal. And no, they can't detain me forever. They can't confiscate my possessions and let me go either. Its in THEIR best interest not to do that because if the word gets out this is happening less people will come to a country that wants to go through your laptop and cellphone for no reason (I also doubt this is happening at all).[/QUOTE]You seem to know all the answers. I'm sure you'll experience no problems whatsoever.

I'm just curious about one thing. Just for the sake of discussion, let's say you're pulled aside for inspection. It happens to me occasionally when I'm crossing in or out of Canada, something I do about 200 times every year. Let's say they want you to unlock your phone, or power up your laptop. In the US, they can confiscate your things if you refuse to comply, they can detain you and they can take your passport, while they wait for the court to authorize using whatever methods necessary to complete the search. I'm pretty sure other countries also have those rights. In fact, the US supports countries like Colombia exercising those rights to help fight the drug trade, kiddie porn, trafficking and all types of smuggling. How do you convince the embassy that you have nothing to hide, when you refused to submit to a lawful search? My guess is, when you finally get to talk to someone from the embassy, the first thing they're going to ask is "why didn't you comply with the search?

Let me share one of my own experiences with you. Over 30 years ago my wife and I were coming back into the US at San Ysidro, after spending a weekend at Rosarito Beach. We weren't bringing anything back, certainly nothing illegal. Then we got pulled aside. They checked our IDs, emptied everything out of the car, opened our suitcases and went through them. Of course they didn't find anything. After letting us load everything back into the car, they directed us to another inspection area, where we sat. Eventually someone came around with a K9 unit, which sniffed all around the car. The dog didn't find anything either.

So we waited, and waited, about 45 minutes we sat there sweating, until finally a Border Patrol agent (before they were C&BP) happened to glance at my wife. The woman comes over and asks our nationality, then start questioning my wife, in a friendly way. Where was she born, what school did she go to, just a couple of basic questions, which she answered.

The agent at the booth had glanced in and decided my wife was Mexican and flagged us for that, but nobody else thought she looked Mexican, so they ran all the other searches on us, until someone finally figured out the problem and cleared us.

We were polite and friendly and compliant so, except for the delay, we didn't have any issues. However, things could have ended up differently if I had been an arrogant, loudmouthed asshole about it. You see, there's a third inspection area at the border. I had to go there a few times to tow cars that had been sent there. That's where they get serious about the search.

At the third area, they remove the seats and the dash, they rip everything open. They pump out the gas and remove and cut open the gas tank, they cut off and cut open the catalytic converter and muffler. They rip off door panels and basically completely destroy the car. And it's all legal. They just need probable cause, and refusal to submit to inspection qualifies as probable cause. When they finish, if they didn't find anything, you're free to go and they'll give you the number of a towing company. They have no obligation to repair your car, or reimburse you.

For most people I always recommend, when dealing with any type of law enforcement, be polite, be calm and comply with their requests. Most of them are decent people just doing their job. If you treat them right, usually you have nothing to worry about.

However, I can tell you're much too important of a person to have to put up with that. You should definitely immediately start yelling about your rights and telling them how much trouble they'll be in for daring to try and search you. You probably should also point out how much money you make compared to them. I'm certain that will yield the best results.

I just hope someone captures the moment and puts it on YouTube.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618868]What are they going to charge someone with that refuses to unlock their cellphone?[/QUOTE]It's Colombia. Colombia. It's not the US, it's not Canada. The laws of the US don't apply. They are not required, under Colombian law, to charge you with anything. In the Colombian legal system they put you in prison until they are ready to officially charge you with a crime, then they return you to prison until they are ready to prosecute you.

How do you not know, in most places, refusal to comply with a search is considered an admission of guilt? How do you not understand that evidence can appear out of nowhere? How do you convince a Colombian court that a flash drive loaded with kiddie porn doesn't belong to you, when 3 police officers have testified it was found in your luggage? For fucks sake, there are probably 100 k people in US prisons, convicted because the police found some illegal drugs that didn't belong to them.

However, from the way you seem so worried about them looking at your phone, it sounds as if whether they find your stuff, or plant their own stuff, the guilt is pretty obvious.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618867]I know they can make me miss my flight, but they can't hold me indefinitely over absolutely nothing.[/QUOTE]Sorry I do not know how it works in Colombia. But using the Philippines as an example I know of. You can sit in jail for 1, 2, 3 years before they press charges or let you go. The norm is several months. You guys are not in your home country. You need to wake the F* up. I love the saying guys see on TV, "I have rights". No you do not. Not even the USA anymore.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2618910]They don't have to "charge" you with anything. They can just hold you for a year pending investigation, no bail, and can get extensions on that if they want. In the meantime you are in a rat hole with no beds or changes of clothes or means to wash them, and no food unless you have money to buy it. You aren't in Kansas anymore Dorothy.[/QUOTE]I guess like they all do, they think there home and think on lines of innocent into proven guilty: and it’s guilty until proven innocent (even with no charges) over their! Seen this way of thinking lots and usually the outcome is not good! Just sayin, oh wait I forgot the embassy will be their real real quick to help out!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2618884]I agree. Many guys in this board will travel to the ends of the earth for some cheap pussy, but when they are faced with the slightest adversity they fold as quick as they can and are willing to pay any price to make it go away. If you have not done anything then the police or immigration are not going to do shit to you. I have been to Colombia way over 100 times and nobody has ever asked me about seeing any electronics. I have even been pulled in the back room in Medellin for a random body scan and questioning.

If you have not done anything then don't be a punk. I have been pulled over by police in Dominican Republic over 20 times trying to shake me down. I have given them ZERO. And one guy even pulled his gun out threatening to shoot out my tire. I don't scare easily when I know I have done nothing wrong. And if push ever came to shove then when I get around their superiors I will say how they wanted money, but since I refused they said they would make me have problems. You can lie the same way they can.[/QUOTE]I used to have a brother-in-law. I never met him. He married my sister when they were stationed together in the Army. He was Puerto Rican and very dark skinned (which didn't sit well with some of the family).

The reason I never met him is because he did nothing wrong. In Louisiana, other than driving back to Fort Polk with a 19 year old pregnant white girl. That's not against the law, but it's one of those "probable cause" things. My brother-in-law knew he had done nothing wrong, in fact, he insisted the cop had no right to stop them.

There was one time when I got in the face of a cop. I'm reasonably large and I was furious and it turned out okay. He had done something rather stupid and dangerous and I wasn't going to take it. It happened in Michigan, I'm white, he was white and he deescalated the situation. If I were black, coming at a white cop, like a runaway freight train (as I said, I was furious), there are probably some places where I wouldn't have walked back to my truck and drove away.

Back to my brother-in-law. He got mouthy, he got belligerent and he got shot 5 times in the chest. My sister got a traumatic experience and, after the birth of her daughter, a general discharge under honorable conditions because she was a single mother.

Often you give excellent advice. This is not one of those times.

While it's unlikely a Colombian cop will shoot you, escalating a situation is seldom a good idea, especially when they're well within their rights.

I know you're aware that they have a right to search you before allowing you on a flight. And if they are pulling people in the airport, it's not likely they're just looking for a bribe. From the sound of things they're probably looking for drugs. Which means they probably are only interested in seeing if your phone, laptop and tablet can power up. I had that happen in Houston when returning from Bogota. Powered up my laptop, powered up my phone, strummed a few chords on both my guitar and tiple and then chatted for a few minutes with the agent who had never seen a tiple before.

Now, assuming you're not smuggling drugs inside a phone with the guts removed, tell me, in your expert opinion, which is going to get you on your flight with the least amount of delay:

1. Showing the guy, who doesn't get paid enough to deal with arrogant gringos, that everything is fucking hunky-dory.

2. Telling him you don't have to do what he asks and you're going to get him fired if he doesn't let you go.

Remember, this is in the airport, where there are probably witnesses or some type of electronic surveillance. It's not on the Malecon in Santo Domingo, it's not in Parque Lleras or some taxi traveling to Laureles. So, the whole trying to shake you down for money angle doesn't apply.

The one major flaw in your scenario is "done nothing wrong. " You don't know if someone else has done nothing wrong, especially not a completely anonymous guy on ISG who seems to be really nervous about anyone getting a look at what's on his phone.

If you've done nothing wrong, there's no need to get belligerent. If you've done nothing wrong there's no need to start shouting that Uncle Sam is going to kick the shit out of anyone who tries to detain you. You keep calm, do what's asked and chances are, especially in the airport scenario, you'll quickly be on your way.

Try to remember, driving a car and picking up hookers in Santo Domingo is not the same thing as getting pulled aside for extra inspection at the airport. At least I've never noticed anyone driving a car and picking up a hooker on the jetway. Maybe I need to pay more attention.

[QUOTE=RacShack;2618958]I guess like they all do, they think there home and think on lines of innocent into proven guilty: and its guilty until proven innocent (even with no charges) over their! Seen this way of thinking lots and usually the outcome is not good! Just sayin, oh wait I forgot the embassy will be their real real quick to help out![/QUOTE]Added to that, as a single male traveling to Colombia, you're pretty much presumed to be a "sex tourist. " The US Embassy, while it should help you, also would love to make an example of you.

Best policy is: First: Do not have keep pictures of Colombian women on your phone or laptop (unless they're like 50+ year old). Second, cooperate with the agents. The vast majority are just doing their job. But if you become antagonistic, there is a good chance they will become antagonistic also, which may not end well.

Well, of course the Colombian authorities cannot detain a USA citizen for no reason. Oh; wait a minute. Yes, they can and do and will. But then of course you would get promptly arraigned in front of a judge and could get bail. Oh; wait a minute. No real time frame for arraignment and no bail unless you are a high muckety muck. But of course if you are truly not guilty then the jury will find you innocent. Oh; wait a minute. There is no jury. Well, anyway, if you end up in jail at least you will get three free meals a day. Oh; wait a minute. No, you won't unless you pay inflated prices for food. But of course surely the USA government will intervene on behalf of its citizens since the USA has consistently shown its concern for its overseas *****monger citizens. Well, actually, not so much. But enjoy Colombia, Anthony.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2618933]...have never had an issue either entering or leaving Colombia and am surprised that people are getting pulled aside and searched..
[/QUOTE]It is like what many people would say "I have lived in Medellin for 5 years and never been robbed. " Does that mean there is no robbery in Medellin?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2618884]I agree. Many guys in this board will travel to the ends of the earth for some cheap pussy, but when they are faced with the slightest adversity they fold as quick as they can and are willing to pay any price to make it go away. ..[/QUOTE]Would you unlock your phone when you have done nothing wrong? And they will let you board the plan after you refuse?

Nice post. Thanks for posting report and pictures. Superb.

[QUOTE=Iponux;2618929]I tried 2 more casas, they were not on the map.

1- unknown name casa, had like 4-5 chicas, very nice body shots on WhatsApp but everything went south when I looked at their faces, including my erection.

Prices:

Location: 100/ HR 70/ HR.

Cra. 68 A #43-13, Medellin, Antioquia.

White door across the street.

2- Angels casa, I didn't find it on the map or pdf file.

They have a very good selection, I chose a bomb shell Venezuelan called Gabriella, this place will definitely be seeing me more.

Prices: 130/ HR 80/30 min + 20 or 30 for oral w / o condom.[/QUOTE]

I am with Mr. E on this. I have been going to Colombia for 16 years (who knows how many trips), some of which I was married to a Colombian and the rest as a monger. NEVER had anyone ask to view fotos on my phone, never gotten shaked down. I was body scanned once, but it was years ago when I was on vacation with my ex-wife and daughter, but that was in Cartagena. Not saying that shake-downs, etc. Can't or don't happen, but it's certainly not the norm based on what I've experienced and based on what I know of friend who visit Colombia regularly.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2618884]I agree. Many guys in this board will travel to the ends of the earth for some cheap pussy, but when they are faced with the slightest adversity they fold as quick as they can and are willing to pay any price to make it go away. If you have not done anything then the police or immigration are not going to do shit to you. I have been to Colombia way over 100 times and nobody has ever asked me about seeing any electronics. I have even been pulled in the back room in Medellin for a random body scan and questioning.

.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2618920]"Sent her out yelling with 200 k" is not a good situation to put yourself into. It might have been created by your lack of Spanish, or by not grasping the typical street girls mindset. Surfer500 or Knowledge can give a better opinion than I.

Typically those girls get paid a small amount, 50 k and less, for a quick session, then they're back on the street looking for the next customer. As long as you wanted her to stay probably never registered to her, because that's not how she does business. The only thing that did register was your willingness to pay 300 k.

You might consider offering a more typical price and if she turns out to be a keeper once in the room, offering more for a longer period. I'd also suggest, not leaving it open ended, because she might not be able to stay as long as you want. Either agree on the number of loads (polvos works), a specific length of time, or until a certain time.[/QUOTE]Valuable advice.

I actually did ask her how long she will stay, her own words were (as long as you want), the true meaning prolly got lost in the translation.

I get the mindset of a SW, however one thing to note is that I didn't know she was a SW until I saw her afterwards hanging on the side of a nearby street.

I certainly didn't have the same problem with the SW I got right afterwards.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2618983]Would you unlock your phone when you have done nothing wrong? And they will let you board the plan after you refuse?[/QUOTE]Depends. Once US Customs asked for my electronics as I was boarding a flight to Peru. I do not remember if they asked me to unlock anything or not. I do not have a lock on my tablet anyway. I think they either put a code in or looked at the settings page on my phone and tablet, then wrote down some numbers that came up. I have nothing to hide and there are plenty of chicks' nekkit pics and videos in my phone.

Let me say that this was not a random thing. They had a copy of my passport to identify me when I came through. This was in 2017 after my global entry was revoked for who knows what reason. I have written my senator, freedom of information act, pulled my FBI report and everything and still they will not say anything. My next step is to write the head of Homeland Security, and if I get nothing from him, then I will write to the President. They gave me Precheck back and I have Clear, but they recently denied Global Entry again.

In the US they can always confiscate your phone until they open it the hard way then send it back to you at a later date. They are not going to arrest you for not complying. Same thing as Jj was saying about those cars though; if it gets broken in the process then they do not owe you shit.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2619002]I am with Mr. E on this. I have been going to Colombia for 16 years (who knows how many trips), some of which I was married to a Colombian and the rest as a monger. NEVER had anyone ask to view fotos on my phone, never gotten shaked down. I was body scanned once, but it was years ago when I was on vacation with my ex-wife and daughter, but that was in Cartagena. Not saying that shake-downs, etc. Can't or don't happen, but it's certainly not the norm based on what I've experienced and based on what I know of friend who visit Colombia regularly.[/QUOTE]So, anything that's never happened to me has never happened?

The question being discussed is whether, at the airport, you're required to submit to a search. A simple yes or no would suffice.

I cross the border in and out of Canada regularly. I'm on the way to Canada now and will be coming back into the US in about 18 hours. Over the more than 1000 times I've crossed, I've never been personally searched. My truck has been searched, it's been x-rayed, but they've never personally searched me.

I've noticed, particularly returning to the US, certain trends. If they have a lot of cars in secondary inspection, most of them might be the same color, or most of the people might belong to a particular religion or ethnic group. With trucks it might be similar types of trailers, or mostly small rental trucks.

I see similar things on the highway. The police might be pulling over grey vans, or blue pickups. This is because they have information that something illegal involving that type of vehicle might be going on.

I once got pulled, along with several other people, for an extra inspection. Listening to the questions it turned out we had all made last minute flight changes.

Certain behaviors or certain profiles can raise a red flag. When that happens people get pulled aside for extra scrutiny. It's happened to you, MeE and me along with countless others. We've already established that it can happen.

The question is, "what do you do if it happens to you?

My answer is that you be polite, calm and compliant. You treat the person with respect, you remain friendly and you will probably have no problem.

Apparently that's the wrong answer. It appears that you should start acting like a spoiled child and accuse the person of breaking the law, because no country has the right to detain anyone, particularly if they are from the US.

Of course this aligns nicely with the "if one person overpays, prices will go up" thinking. If police or customs deal with mostly gringos who are polite and friendly, they are more likely to look favorably at gringos. If they constantly have to deal with the arrogant assholes, they will treat all gringos accordingly.

Ever since Trump passed that new law which basically is going after any sex tourism, even though we are not trafficking, immigration has been a real pain. Here is some added protocol I have been following since trump passed the law. Everyone should follow this because I'm getting harassed a lot more crossing over from Tijuana.

1) You need 2 phones. One you use in the states like a 1 k iPhone with all your apps that you can think of, and a cheaper 300 dollar phone for mongering. On the monger phone you will only need to download what's app, tinder, and uber.

2) when you cross back to the states, especially Colombia which harassed the hell out of me as a solo traveler, you want that phone to be completely deleted and reset to factory settings. For android: Settings / general management / reset / factory data reset / reset. That's it. After it's done you can cross over and they won't see shit. Any google searches, photos, and what's app conversations are gone.

Take a screen shot of your what's app numbers and email it to yourself to a rarely used email. When you get home you can add the numbers back and dump the girls you are getting tired of anyway.

You can resist this at your own discretion and complain about your rights but they have already said they can check your phone without your permission when you haven't crossed back yet. They are cracking down and it will get worse. Remember lying to a federal agent is a crime. If they ask you a bunch of questions about what you are doing in Colombia and you lie and then they see your what's app talking to escorts about sex for money, it might not end well. Be paranoid. This isn't 10 years ago where all they really cared about was terrorism. Now they care about who you are screwing.

Laying in bed here in my oceanside room at the Pavilion Hotel in Myrtle Beach with my ex-wife. Once again I cannot sleep because of her snoring. My recent topic was three-ways and at first I thought Scarlet and Purrfekt Paisa held the honor as the duo that best completed my terrific trios. Then I remembered some hawt times with Scarlet and Hot Housewife and I scrounged up a few more photos of them. Scarlet has been the common denominator lately for these three-ways because she likes to supply the third chicas, her amigas, which is fun for her between the sexual activities. The plain truth is that she and her girlfriend's can't afford taxi fares to get together unless they're doing it with me at my expense. Whip me, beat me, make we write bad checks, that's another way of saying I don't mind, jajaja.

My life of leisure is fun here in the states, but you don't get that kind of culture I just described above in Medellin at any price. And the prices in Medellin are beyond reasonable.

My ex-wife returns to Pennsylvania on Monday. I will start working on my new Visa that same day. As a lot of you already know, the 180 day per year tourist visa resets at the start of the calendar year or January 1st. I have 10 days left on my tourist visa for 2021 that I'm going to use up regardless of where I am in the process of switching over to an immigration visa.

Unbelievably and happily, I continue to move forward with my goal to spend as much time in Medellin as is practically possible. I'm still with the same girlfriend or novia, Catgirl, who was the sole reason I came to Medellin two years ago even though I swore beforehand I would never set foot in The City of Eternal Spring.

I did not know Medellin was a mongering destination until after I got here. Then I adapted to my environment and optimized my situation.

I was digging beachfront Cambodia before I found Medellin. There has been a lot of chatter here lately about southeast Asia. SEA is one of the many lame abbreviations used on this Website, could just as easily stand for Seattle and it is the abbreviation for the Seattle-Tacoma airport.

I see mostly similarities and not differences between SEA and MDE, except for the obvious, travel time and expense, language barrier, boobs are bigger in MDE, albeit a lot of plastic, jajaja. I had great times with the girls in both places and I mongered in six or seven different countries in Southeast Asia, I'm too tired to remember them right now. 80% of my time was in Thailand, the standard Bangkok, Pattaya, Nana Plaza, Walking Street, throw in Phuket where I dodged a lame kidnapping attempt that I posted about here before, and Chiang Mai for good measure. Rarely mentioned, the recreational drug and porn culture is dangerously unfriendly in Thailand compared to Colombia, where it is embraced.

That last photo has to be the biggest fucking drink I ever ordered in a bar in my life, they call them fish bowls here on the coast of South Carolina and probably the reason what ex-wife is once again rattling the windows with her snoring, jaja that is all.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2618982]It is like what many people would say "I have lived in Medellin for 5 years and never been robbed. " Does that mean there is no robbery in Medellin?[/QUOTE]I would never say anything like this, as I have been in a situation where a gun was drawn and one of my Chicas robbed in Poblado.

If anyhting, I would say you most probaly will be robbed in Medellin within five years of living there.

Regardless, the discussion has been about being searched / detained at the airport, which has been a new topic here as far as I can remember at least on the Medellin thread as it sounds like something new that has been initiated by the Colombian authorities. Maybe it's some new program profiling travellers somehow, or maybe just a random screening program being started, but regardless, I don't ever remember seeing or hearing of what's been reported as of lately occurring at Rio Negro airport.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2619026]Let me say that this was not a random thing. They had a copy of my passport to identify me when I came through. This was in 2017 after my global entry was revoked for who knows what reason. I have written my senator, freedom of information act, pulled my FBI report and everything and still they will not say anything. My next step is to write the head of Homeland Security, and if I get nothing from him, then I will write to the President. They gave me Precheck back and I have Clear, but they recently denied Global Entry again..[/QUOTE]It's not fair not knowing why you've been denied Global Entry. At least you have TSA pre-check which can be great at times but isn't as prevalent anymore as not enough people have it, hence they don't man all the TSA security entrances at some airports like in Florida, but give you a card that allows you to not to have to take off your shoes.

Probably the worst airport for international arrivals is Fort Lauderdale. No signage when entering for Global Entry. Everybody gets stuck in the same line. I just go around the line walk in, say I have Global Entry and typically am allowed to enter but was recently asked for my Global Entry card which I don't carry with me as my "known traveller" number has always been used for airline travel. FLL is the worst airport to be flying into from Colombia and I'm sure there are other board members you can attest to this.

As far as getting your Global Entry status back, your only option is to retain an attorney and spend big bucks as anything you write will go into the round file, aka trash can. And God forbid if you were put on the Governments no fly list. There are people who have been put on that list in error and have spent a lot of time and money trying to get it undone.

You can also back everything on your mongering phone up to the cloud (confirm encryption), wipe you phone before you head back, and restore your phone to the backup when you're home. Much easier.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2619051]Take a screen shot of your what's app numbers and email it to yourself to a rarely used email. When you get home you can add the numbers back and dump the girls you are getting tired of anyway.

You can resist this at your own discretion and complain about your rights but they have already said they can check your phone without your permission when you haven't crossed back yet. They are cracking down and it will get worse. Remember lying to a federal agent is a crime. If they ask you a bunch of questions about what you are doing in Colombia and you lie and then they see your what's app talking to escorts about sex for money, it might not end well. Be paranoid. This isn't 10 years ago where all they really cared about was terrorism. Now they care about who you are screwing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2619098]
That last photo has to be the biggest fucking drink I ever ordered in a bar in my life, they call them fish bowls here on the coast of South Carolina and probably the reason what ex-wife is once again rattling the windows with her snoring, jaja that is all.[/QUOTE]Nice reflections. The last pic is the ex-wife?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2619163]Probably the worst airport for international arrivals is Fort Lauderdale. No signage when entering for Global Entry. Everybody gets stuck in the same line. I just go around the line walk in, say I have Global Entry and typically am allowed to enter but was recently asked for my Global Entry card which I don't carry with me as my "known traveller" number has always been used for airline travel. FLL is the worst airport to be flying into from Colombia and I'm sure there are other board members you can attest to this.
[/QUOTE]There is no doubt FLL is bad, and I have global entry (best $100 I ever spent and free if you get some American Express cards) but if you use the free mobile passport app and fill out your info, you can also bypass the horrendous lines. It is not as good as Global Entry but it sure as hell beats standing in the regular line.

Angels Casa (10-26-2021).

4284 Avenida 80, piso 2. __ Chicas. Prices: 80 k 30 min. , 130 k Hour. + 20 or 30 for oral w / o condom. Tel: _ Hours: _.

Name? Next door to BMW Autos (10-26-2021).

Carrera 68 A #43-13, Piso?. 4-5 Chicas. Prices: 70 k 30 min. , 100 k Hour. Tel: _ Hours: _.

[QUOTE=Iponux;2618929]I tried 2 more casas, they were not on the map.

1- unknown name casa, had like 4-5 chicas, very nice body shots on WhatsApp but everything went south when I looked at their faces, including my erection.

Prices:

Location: 100/ HR 70/ HR.

Cra. 68 A #43-13, Medellin, Antioquia.

White door across the street.

2- Angels casa, I didn't find it on the map or pdf file.

They have a very good selection, I chose a bomb shell Venezuelan called Gabriella, this place will definitely be seeing me more.

Prices: 130/ HR 80/30 min + 20 or 30 for oral w / o condom.

Location: address they gave me was very wonky on map, got late because of it and the original girl I reserved got some other John.

It is the grey door right next to drogueria dar salud la 81.

2nd floor.

Late last night: around 12 pm.

Got another street walkers, sweet baby face and blond hair with extensions, 150 k after negotiations and 2 pimps trying to syphon more money of me.

Funny thing is that she spend another 40 minutes with me trying to take off her painful hair extensions.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2619051]Ever since Trump passed that new law which basically is going after any sex tourism, even though we are not trafficking, immigration has been a real pain. Here is some added protocol I have been following since trump passed the law. Everyone should follow this because I'm getting harassed a lot more crossing over from Tijuana.
If they ask you a bunch of questions about what you are doing in Colombia and you lie and then they see your what's app talking to escorts about sex for money, it might not end well. Be paranoid. This isn't 10 years ago where all they really cared about was terrorism. Now they care about who you are screwing.[/QUOTE]What? You are definitely paranoid. I literally tell the agents that I was in Tijuana fucking hoes when I cross back over and they ask. They just say ok welcome back. I ja e not been harassed at that border in 30 years. If you are not doing anything illegal there is no reason for all this mission impossible I spy shit.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2619163]It's not fair not knowing why you've been denied Global Entry. At least you have TSA pre-check which can be great at times but isn't as prevalent anymore as not enough people have it, hence they don't man all the TSA security entrances at some airports like in Florida, but give you a card that allows you to not to have to take off your shoes.

Probably the worst airport for international arrivals is Fort Lauderdale. No signage when entering for Global Entry. Everybody gets stuck in the same line. I just go around the line walk in, say I have Global Entry and typically am allowed to enter but was recently asked for my Global Entry card which I don't carry with me as my "known traveller" number has always been used for airline travel. FLL is the worst airport to be flying into from Colombia and I'm sure there are other board members you can attest to this.

As far as getting your Global Entry status back, your only option is to retain an attorney and spend big bucks as anything you write will go into the round file, aka trash can. And God forbid if you were put on the Governments no fly list. There are people who have been put on that list in error and have spent a lot of time and money trying to get it undone.[/QUOTE]At one time I needed a Department of Energy security clearance, since my Department of Defense clearance was no longer in force. On the application there were 2 similar questions about events in my past. The first one was "in the past 5 years" and the other was "the last 10 years. " I had an incident which requires a yes answer for each. However, the first had happened more than 5 years in the past and the second more than 10 years.

So I answered no to both questions. My application was stalled until I got called in for an interview. I explained both situations and also explained why I hadn't included them on the application. I was told I needed to include anything within the past 15 years.

Then why does it say 5 and 10 years?

When the bureaucracy train goes off track, there's no telling where or why it happened.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2619051]Ever since Trump passed that new law which basically is going after any sex tourism, even though we are not trafficking, immigration has been a real pain. Here is some added protocol I have been following since trump passed the law. Everyone should follow this because I'm getting harassed a lot more crossing over from Tijuana.

1) You need 2 phones. One you use in the states like a 1 k iPhone with all your apps that you can think of, and a cheaper 300 dollar phone for mongering. On the monger phone you will only need to download what's app, tinder, and uber.

2) when you cross back to the states, especially Colombia which harassed the hell out of me as a solo traveler, you want that phone to be completely deleted and reset to factory settings. For android: Settings / general management / reset / factory data reset / reset. That's it. After it's done you can cross over and they won't see shit. Any google searches, photos, and what's app conversations are gone.

Take a screen shot of your what's app numbers and email it to yourself to a rarely used email. When you get home you can add the numbers back and dump the girls you are getting tired of anyway..[/QUOTE]Can you provide a link or excerpt from the law your referring to that says all sex tourism is a crime. I believe a a bill was passed in June of this year in the House outlawing sex tourism as relates to minors, meaning anyone under 18, but does not address it being illegal engaging prostitutes 18 years or older.

Makes no sense at all to enforce a law against sex tourism when it involves any one 18 or older for a US citizen in a foreign Country where prostitution is legal.

As far as wiping your phone and all your electronics clean I see it as a waste of time. I don't engage in anything illegal when overseas, and don't have any suspicious photos on my phone or computer that might raise a red flag. So if they go thru my electronics and ask me a bunch of questions, my answer will be I have a lot of girlfriends, and they are all over 18. That's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so as far as lying to a Federal agent I would never do that.

Unless this Trump law you reference specifically states that if someone travels overseas, has photos and conversations with women 18 years and older on their electronics, they've clearly broken the law, and are going to be prosecuted as a sex tourist?

I find this hard to believe, and perhaps your a bit more frightened than you should be about all this.

I'm not suggesting though that you don't do all that you do, because it makes you more comfortable as a monger, and all of us have to be comfortable how we roll.

As far as Tijuana, all of the border agents know exactly what goes on there, and if I was an agent and going thru somebody's electronics, and everything was wiped clean, that would raise a huge red flag.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2619051]Ever since Trump passed that new law which basically is going after any sex tourism.[/QUOTE]Is it the same one that also says that females that get an abortion are required to eat every bit of it before they can go home?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2619251]What? You are definitely paranoid. I literally tell the agents that I was in Tijuana fucking hoes when I cross back over and they ask. They just say ok welcome back. I ja e not been harassed at that border in 30 years. If you are not doing anything illegal there is no reason for all this mission impossible I spy shit.[/QUOTE]As I said, I'm a frequent customer at the Canadian border. Going in, the worst I might get is someone who is just disinterested. Sometimes a few basic questions, but never any sort of attitude.

Coming back, I'll occasionally get someone who needs to be certain I'm aware how vital he is to the protection of the US. I just let him talk, answer the questions and go on my way.

I only have had 2 that were on the verge of getting ugly. The first was because I'd had to get a rental truck and the license plate information they sent us for the paperwork didn't match the plate on the truck. The woman, who was usually pretty cool, was training someone, so she made a few threats about what would happen if I ever tried that again.

The other happened inside at the counter. I can't remember what caused the remark, but he said something like "I'm the only person you need to make happy." My answer was something like "the only person I need to make happy is me. Whether or not you're happy is up to you.

More often I get the chance to make a joke. There's a User Fee for trucks entering the US, $13.50. My boss is supposed to pay it in advance, but sometimes he forgets. One day they sent me in to pay and wrote "UF" in big red letters on my paperwork and sent me inside. The woman who I drew asked me why I was there. I told her "The guy out there said I was so ugly I have to pay an ugly fee." She said "How about a User Fee. Is that better?" "It sure is, because I don't think I can afford to be this ugly."

If I can brighten up their day a bit, at the very least it makes me smile. Best case scenario they're happy to see me next time.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2619251]What? You are definitely paranoid. I literally tell the agents that I was in Tijuana fucking hoes when I cross back over and they ask. They just say ok welcome back. I ja e not been harassed at that border in 30 years. If you are not doing anything illegal there is no reason for all this mission impossible I spy shit.[/QUOTE]Well your quite brash. I used to be a Tijuana regular, and when asked what I was doing in Tijuana my answer would always be just hanging out. All the border agents know exactly what single males are doing in Tijuana, especially crossing back in the evening. However, I do know a guy a little more brash than you that would always tell the agents he hoped he didn't pick up the clap while in Tijuana.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2619251]What? You are definitely paranoid. I literally tell the agents that I was in Tijuana fucking hoes when I cross back over and they ask. They just say ok welcome back. I ja e not been harassed at that border in 30 years. If you are not doing anything illegal there is no reason for all this mission impossible I spy shit.[/QUOTE]I can't believe you told them that. You never know when you get the power hungry officer. What if you get a female officer. She looks at your WhatsApp and says this girl looks underage. You tell her she is 19. They don't believe you and take you to the back because they think you're engaging in sex trafficking. Remember the new law said Facebook and Craigslist can be held accountable and arrested if someone on their platforms are engaging in prostitution. There are more reports here of extra scrutiny. I would be vigilant. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't after you. I can tell you last time I crossed over from Tijuana the Jerk officer was hoping I would say what you said. He kept asking question after question.

Mr E,

You said if you didn't do anything wrong, than don't worry. If that's true, why did they take your global entry card away. Maybe they already have you pegged as a sex tourist. You travel everywhere.

Colombia and now Thailand are saying they want to Crack down on prostitution. What if they want to make a example of someone. They swipe your passport and see that you've been to every know hooker destination in the world. Look at the overreacting on the terrorism laws after 911. They trampled on everyone's rights. They could do the same with banging legal age hookers in the 3rd world.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2619252]I was told I needed to include anything within the past 15 years. Then why does it say 5 and 10 years?

When the bureaucracy train goes off track, there's no telling where or why it happened.[/QUOTE]Way the fuck off track. My credit score is 825 and I have not even had a traffic ticket in the last 20 years. Reminds me of Rappi. My shit still was not working yesterday so I wrote to them. They said I was in violation of the terms and conditions. What violation? We can not tell you that sir, but you can close this account and open another. Yes but I do not want to open another account and mistakenly do the same thing I did to get this one flagged. And what happens to my 73 points in this account? Sorry.

Without getting into too many specifics, this is beginning to happen more frequently now. A single male traveler with a history of travel to Thailand, Colombia, Cambodia and Costa Rica. Boom - expect to be grilled and have all of your stuff turned upside down. Customs some times take your electronics stuff away for hours, yes plural hours, and inspect it, far away from your eyes.

Don't be stupid. Take care and of course, don't indulge in illegal activities.

Now, can anyone please point me to any info on that sex tourism law that has been mentioned recently. About buying sex. I am not aware of any such law.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2619246]Angels Casa (10-26-2021).

4284 Avenida 80, piso 2. __ Chicas. Prices: 80 k 30 min. , 130 k Hour. + 20 or 30 for oral w / o condom. Tel: _ Hours: _.

Name? Next door to BMW Autos (10-26-2021).

Carrera 68 A #43-13, Piso?. 4-5 Chicas. Prices: 70 k 30 min. , 100 k Hour. Tel: _ Hours: _.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the good stuff.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2619190]There is no doubt FLL is bad, and I have global entry (best $100 I ever spent and free if you get some American Express cards) but if you use the free mobile passport app and fill out your info, you can also bypass the horrendous lines. It is not as good as Global Entry but it sure as hell beats standing in the regular line.[/QUOTE]My return flight from Bogota had FLL as port of entry in USA, and it was the worst 150 minutes I spent in any airport. I had to wait in several lines. There was a waiting line to enter baggage claim area, and once I entered the baggage claim area, it took another 30 minutes for baggage to arrive in baggage claim. After that ordeal was over, there was long winded waiting line to enter immigration area, and then the actual lines for getting your entry into USA. Since I had connecting flight, I had another line to check in my bag, and then another line for security check to go to gate of connecting flight. All in all, it took 150 minutes to reach the gate of my connecting flight.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2619051]Ever since Trump passed that new law which basically is going after any sex tourism, even though we are not trafficking, immigration has been a real pain. Here is some added protocol I have been following since trump passed the law. Everyone should follow this because I'm getting harassed a lot more crossing over from Tijuana.

1) You need 2 phones. One you use in the states like a 1 k iPhone with all your apps that you can think of, and a cheaper 300 dollar phone for mongering. On the monger phone you will only need to download what's app, tinder, and uber.

2) when you cross back to the states, especially Colombia which harassed the hell out of me as a solo traveler, you want that phone to be completely deleted and reset to factory settings. For android: Settings / general management / reset / factory data reset / reset. That's it. After it's done you can cross over and they won't see shit. Any google searches, photos, and what's app conversations are gone.

Take a screen shot of your what's app numbers and email it to yourself to a rarely used email. When you get home you can add the numbers back and dump the girls you are getting tired of anyway..[/QUOTE]How is that real? What happens when you go to a legal brothel in Nevada-do they pop you on the way into California? Or as you cross up into Idaho a fed is going to pull you over: were you in a brothel? I need to see your phone. Most of this discussion is just silly.

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[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2618070]I also found a awesome love motel called Ibiza motel on google, has a strip pole right in the room.

Figured once I get some whatsapp this place might be more fun than my hotel LOL.

There seems to be good escort sites to, hopefully the girls really look like the pictures though.

I'm 35 lots of tats usually vibe good with the girls in DR / Montreal, end up smoking and chillin.

Anyone have experience with these sites? Good experiences or bad?

[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/medellin[/URL]

[URL]https://lacelestina.co/en/profiles/location/Medellin[/URL]

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/[/URL]

Will make sure to post a good review while I'm there, if anyone else is there 10/31 - 11/5 let me know, can link up for some food / drinks![/QUOTE]I have recently used Lacelestina agency in Bogota. I had a long list of girls that I wanted to see but I ended up seeing only couple of girls from this agency. The main problem I faced was not able to determine which services a girl provides or does not provide or provides only for extra charge. Their profiles do not list what services they provide. And the phone handlers were not helpful in providing such details. I was looking for GFE, DFK and 69 but nobody from the agency was able to help me screen their girls to match my requirements. One time, they send me a girl promising that she provides the requested services only to find out that she does not provide such services. So I stopped using this agency.

I had better luck with eroticabogota agency as their profiles clearly list all the services each of their girl provides and its phone handlers were very willing to work with me to help me select the best one that match my requirements. I ended up seeing 5 girls from this agency and they all were good for me.

So Lacelestina can share face pictures so you know what the girl looks like but they do not list all services she will provide.

With eroticabogota, it is other way around. They will not share face picture, so you would not know what she looks like but they will list all the services she provides. At least, its phone handlers were willing to help to bridge that gap.

I have not used mileroticos as most of the girls there are flaky, I tried to see one highly reviewed girl in Bogota but she did not bother to respond in timely manner.

But milerotica can be very good source if you pick girls that are highly reviewed. Catador columbia forum provides excellent reviews of milerotico girls. You can not go wrong if you stick to girls that are reviewed with positive feedback. I am going to try milerotico girls in Medellin as I have short listed few of the highly reviewed girls. Most of them provide their services around 120 k-140 k price range, that beats agency pricing and non-reviewed agency girls.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2619377]But milerotica can be very good source if you pick girls that are highly reviewed. Catador columbia forum provides excellent reviews of milerotico girls. You can not go wrong if you stick to girls that are reviewed with positive feedback.[/QUOTE]Should be stickied IMHO.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2619002]I am with Mr. E on this. I have been going to Colombia for 16 years (who knows how many trips), some of which I was married to a Colombian and the rest as a monger. NEVER had anyone ask to view fotos on my phone, never gotten shaked down. I was body scanned once, but it was years ago when I was on vacation with my ex-wife and daughter, but that was in Cartagena. Not saying that shake-downs, etc. Can't or don't happen, but it's certainly not the norm based on what I've experienced and based on what I know of friend who visit Colombia regularly.[/QUOTE]Damn, 16 years? Thats a long time. What's the longest have you spent there at one time? Any tips on Medellin or Colombia in general outside of mongering?

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2619343]My return flight from Bogota had FLL as port of entry in USA, and it was the worst 150 minutes I spent in any airport. I had to wait in several lines. There was a waiting line to enter baggage claim area, and once I entered the baggage claim area, it took another 30 minutes for baggage to arrive in baggage claim. After that ordeal was over, there was long winded waiting line to enter immigration area, and then the actual lines for getting your entry into USA. Since I had connecting flight, I had another line to check in my bag, and then another line for security check to go to gate of connecting flight. All in all, it took 150 minutes to reach the gate of my connecting flight.[/QUOTE]Get Global Entry, and when arriving in FLL just walk around the lines and ask where the Global Entry kiosks are which all use facial recognition. I returned with a friend last month who didn't have Global Entry who went thru the same ordeal you did, and the airlines don't like it either when flyers miss their connections. And it's been going on at that airport for months now, you would think they would of cleaned up their act by now.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2619279]Colombia and now Thailand are saying they want to Crack down on prostitution. What if they want to make a example of someone. They swipe your passport and see that you've been to every know hooker destination in the world. Look at the overreacting on the terrorism laws after 911. They trampled on everyone's rights. They could do the same with banging legal age hookers in the 3rd world.[/QUOTE]I think you have things backwards, Thailand has been dying on the vine because tourism has been shut down since March of last year and they are slated to re-open on the 1st of November. The last thing Thailand wants to do is scare tourists away, regardless of what type of tourists they are.

The counter service of Spirit Airlines in Chicago O'Hare was a complete shit show. The all-female staff messed up the lines: line A, international but to Cabo only; line be, everything else. Well, a bunch of people were going to Latin American countries (final destination). But they classified the line as direct flight. You don't find that out until you wait in line, get to the agent, and she tells you to go to the back of a mile-long line. They absolutely refused to let you skip the line to get in the correct line. This is messed up because of how poorly they communicate (dozens of people asked if they'd make the flight based on the line length and which line to wait in), plus, instead of fixing the problem, reducing the number of people in line, the insane request to go to the back of the line after you legitimately waited the first time, was outright dumb. Instead of stepping one queue over, the supervisor insisted people go to the back of the line that amassed to several hundred people by that time. They didn't fix the problem, they just postponed the solution. I heard the floating agent that helps people with auto-check in say they dealt with the chaos everyday. Totally stupid if you know it causes a problem and do not fix it. Unprofessional customer service. Although it worked out in the end, I had to sweet talk the floating agent to let me skip the line. It does pay to talk nice, I thought, but realized that if she does that everyday, then she's just playing the role of the hero when it wasn't required. They created the problem and they offered the solution. Not professional.

The transfer through Fort Lauderdale was much easier. Maybe because I didn't have to check in? Plus, the plane was much cleaner, less packed, and overall much better.

It holds true, I hate flying domestic.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2619190]There is no doubt FLL is bad, and I have global entry (best $100 I ever spent and free if you get some American Express cards) but if you use the free mobile passport app and fill out your info, you can also bypass the horrendous lines. It is not as good as Global Entry but it sure as hell beats standing in the regular line.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2619492]I think you have things backwards, Thailand has been dying on the vine because tourism has been shut down since March of last year and they are slated to re-open on the 1st of November. The last thing Thailand wants to do is scare tourists away, regardless of what type of tourists they are.[/QUOTE]Relatively speaking this the best of times and the worst of times to be an international monger jajaja.

The best because at least compared to the recent past I think we will be seen less as "personas non grata" jaja.

When is your 1st trip to LOS scheduled? I'm thinking summer, when its sooper hot and less crowded?

My last long visit was during Christmas and Asia's new year holiday, that's a great time to visit!!

[URL]https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-08-03-thai-protesters-openly-criticise-monarchy/[/URL]#text=Thai%20 protesters%20 openly%20 criticise%20 monarchy%20 Bangkok%2 C%20 Aug%203,was%20 encountered%2 C%20 check%20 back%20 soon%20 and%20 try%20 again.

[URL]https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/thailand-threatens-to-shut-down-facebook-over-footage-of-king-maha-vajiralongkorn/news-story/f6a0aa239da11f32480ca2fb9274119f[/URL]

BTW I think they are opening because Thais are getting closer to revolt and this freak knows it.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2619492]Thailand has been dying on the vine because tourism has been shut down since March of last year and they are slated to re-open on the 1st of November. .[/QUOTE]Thailand has been saying its taking action to curb prostitution for decades. Its just a sham to appease powerful conservative countries like USA and in EU. They speak w forked tongue too, just as they do in USA and EU. They have no interntion of derailing their gravy train.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2619574]Relatively speaking this the best of times and the worst of times to be an international monger jajaja.

The best because at least compared to the recent past I think we will be seen less as "personas non grata" jaja.

When is your 1st trip to LOS scheduled? I'm thinking summer, when its sooper hot and less crowded?

My last long visit was during Christmas and Asia's new year holiday, that's a great time to visit!!.[/QUOTE]Too answer your question as to when I might go to Thailand. Well it depends on how it goes over the next couple of months. If it truly opens up, meaning the mongering venues like Nana Plaza are fully operational and things re-open in Pattaya, ideally I would fly out on New Years.

But honestly, I'm not getting my hopes up. They tried opening up Phuket and it was a total bust, so who knows how it will go as the Pandemic has been unpredictable in both good and bad ways.

Colombia is a perfect example of this, initially during the Pandemic, Colombia would have COVID surges that would follow the USA two to three months afterwards.

So I thought the Delta variant would of already showed up in force in Colombia, but hasn't that I am aware of and things have been fairly stable.

So my point is that things are so unpredictable.

SEA has been shut down for a long time, and hopefully will really re-open.

I would love to return and enjoy the LOS, and hopefully all the SEA guys will return as well and get the hell out of Medellin. LOL Nothing personal against them though.

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2619533]The counter service of Spirit Airlines in Chicago O'Hare was a complete shit show. The all-female staff messed up the lines: line A, international but to Cabo only; line be, everything else. Well, a bunch of people were going to Latin American countries (final destination). But they classified the line as direct flight. You don't find that out until you wait in line, get to the agent, and she tells you to go to the back of a mile-long line. They absolutely refused to let you skip the line to get in the correct line. This is messed up because of how poorly they communicate (dozens of people asked if they'd make the flight based on the line length and which line to wait in), plus, instead of fixing the problem, reducing the number of people in line, the insane request to go to the back of the line after you legitimately waited the first time, was outright dumb. Instead of stepping one queue over, the supervisor insisted people go to the back of the line that amassed to several hundred people by that time. They didn't fix the problem, they just postponed the solution. I heard the floating agent that helps people with auto-check in say they dealt with the chaos everyday. Totally stupid if you know it causes a problem and do not fix it. Unprofessional customer service. Although it worked out in the end, I had to sweet talk the floating agent to let me skip the line. It does pay to talk nice, I thought, but realized that if she does that everyday, then she's just playing the role of the hero when it wasn't required. They created the problem and they offered the solution. Not professional.

The transfer through Fort Lauderdale was much easier. Maybe because I didn't have to check in? Plus, the plane was much cleaner, less packed, and overall much better.

It holds true, I hate flying domestic.[/QUOTE]Spirit airline has early morning flight from Ohare at 5 am for medellin and Bogota via FLL. I try to be at their counter by 3:30 am, so even though lines are still long at such ungodly hours, waiting time and delays becomes managable.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2619660]Spirit airline has early morning flight from Ohare at 5 am for medellin and Bogota via FLL. I try to be at their counter by 3:30 am, so even though lines are still long at such ungodly hours, waiting time and delays becomes managable.[/QUOTE]What am I missing bud? Do you or other poster not know about checking in online the night before and head straight to the gate? Or is this a spirit thing? I refuse to fly them anymore, please explain, I haven't waited in a check in line in over 8-10 years! Granted I'm a carry on person for no matter how long trip is, even if checking bags is their not a bag drop?

[QUOTE=RacShack;2619662]What am I missing bud? Do you or other poster not know about checking in online the night before and head straight to the gate? Or is this a spirit thing? I refuse to fly them anymore, please explain, I haven't waited in a check in line in over 8-10 years! Granted I'm a carry on person for no matter how long trip is, even if checking bags is their not a bag drop?[/QUOTE]If you have any bags to check-in, than they require you to check in at the airport, even if you may have done online checkin. They also verify that you have filled out migration form required for entry in Colombia.

I imagine the longest I spent at one time was about 3 weeks. I love to travel, but I love to go home also. I love the pussy of Medellin. So when I go now, I usually focus on that. And I usually am not entirely on vacation so I have some work to do when I am re-juicing for the next girl. In Medellin, I do enjoy going out on occasion with one of the chicas who I like for more than sex. Getting something to eat, listening to music. I actually enjoy going to movie theatres, so I'll go to CineColombia for a movie (whether USA Or Colombian movie) and enjoy the "mixto crispeta" - regular, salted popcorn mixed with caramel popcorn. I like to stop by the little local restaurants. When I am with someone I trust, I enjoy venturing into the barrios to see how the "regular" people live. Take bus to Barbosa, which is a safe town where they grow pineapple. Guatape is something to do once or twice. I like Santa Fe de Antioquia for a few days of sun and pool and the little town is nice enough. Sopetran is another place that is nice. Fresh air, sunshine, nice little town.

While it's been a while, I've done the metrocable, the Christmas lights, museums, the circus. One of these days I'll finally make it to the Castillo and the zoo.

Outside of mongering, my favorites times were with my family. My ex-wife and daughter are Colombia, so when we'd go to Bogota, we'd stay in the MIL's house, pass a lot of time with the relatives (who all accepted me as one of their own), going to the big malls, going to craft fairs on Sunday morning. They would take long weekend trips to a finca in Melgar or Villavicencia and we would go when I was there. Those were great times.

I hope to pass more time at some fincas outside of Medellin the next time I stay longer.

I am not a huge fan of Cartagena. I live in Florida, so the beach there does nothing for me and the weather is the same. I hate the vendors at the beach. However, I do enjoy the Old City, particularly at night with a date for dinner. I also like San Andres, probably because when I take a chica she appreciate it and enjoys it. I can introduce her to stingrays and undersea creatures. Not a lot of night life there, but great place to relax. I have gone to Cali and Barranquilla and Santa Marta. Not in a hurry to return to any of them other than perhaps Santa Marta. Unfinished business there.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2619405]Damn, 16 years? Thats a long time. What's the longest have you spent there at one time? Any tips on Medellin or Colombia in general outside of mongering?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2619762]I imagine the longest I spent at one time was about 3 weeks. I love to travel, but I love to go home also. I love the pussy of Medellin. So when I go now, I usually focus on that. And I usually am not entirely on vacation so I have some work to do when I am re-juicing for the next girl. In Medellin, I do enjoy going out on occasion with one of the chicas who I like for more than sex. Getting something to eat, listening to music. I actually enjoy going to movie theatres, so I'll go to CineColombia for a movie (whether USA Or Colombian movie) and enjoy the "mixto crispeta" - regular, salted popcorn mixed with caramel popcorn. I like to stop by the little local restaurants. When I am with someone I trust, I enjoy venturing into the barrios to see how the "regular" people live. Take bus to Barbosa, which is a safe town where they grow pineapple. Guatape is something to do once or twice. I like Santa Fe de Antioquia for a few days of sun and pool and the little town is nice enough. Sopetran is another place that is nice. Fresh air, sunshine, nice little town...[/QUOTE]That was an excellent response because it touches on a lot of things.

The Metrocables are a good way to spend some time and see the sights. The entire metro system is a nice way to get a broader view of the city. Same thing with the Transmilenio in Bogota. Although with both you need to pick your time, otherwise it can be packed tighter than a 300 pound woman trying to fit in her high school cheerleader outfit.

Movie theaters in Colombia are mostly superior to those in the US. Just like going to a stadium you can reserve the seats you want. Both El Tesoro and Santa Fe malls have very nice theaters. There's also a theater in Belen that shows art films.

Another fun thing at Santa Fe mall is the Xtreme Carts. If you've got a group to go and race with it's worth checking out.

The Castle museum I highly recommend. There are 2 drawbacks. The tour is all in Spanish and no photos are allowed inside. I had my roommate with me to translate.

On my need to see list is the Botanical gardens. I've meant to go a few times, but haven't made it yet. I'd also like to get to Santa Elena.

[QUOTE=Plan77;2619327]

Now, can anyone please point me to any info on that sex tourism law that has been mentioned recently. About buying sex. I am not aware of any such law.[/QUOTE]I was in Vietnam when the pandemic started with a side trip to Thailand. My fourth trip to Vietnam and sixth to Thailand. Had to come home just before the closing of the boarders. Upon arrival the passport agent asked what was I was doing there so long, told him my reason (Not mongering) and he let me go. The only other question from the roving customs agent was how much money I'm bringing back. Answered and walked out.

I have watched the show To catch a Smuggler where a guy was coming from Colombia and he had pics in his computer and the agent asked him and looked to see if there are minors. None found the guy was let go because according to the agent is not illegal to possess nudes of legal age.

About the "Law that Trump Passed" I'm not aware of. I am aware of the Bush law that states you will be prosecuted in the US if you're found Guilty of a sex offense abroad. But I may be wrong.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2619373]How is that real? What happens when you go to a legal brothel in Nevada-do they pop you on the way into California? Or as you cross up into Idaho a fed is going to pull you over: were you in a brothel? I need to see your phone. Most of this discussion is just silly.[/QUOTE]US authorities are only interested in harassing guys who have been having a good time fucking on the cheap. They are totally uninterested if you visited a legal brothel in Nevada as then they know you would have been fucked; they would just secretly laugh at you.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2619928]US authorities are only interested in harassing guys who have been having a good time fucking on the cheap. They are totally uninterested if you visited a legal brothel in Nevada as then they know you would have been fucked; they would just secretly laugh at you.[/QUOTE]I think the major flaw with his question is the fact that California and Nevada are both in the US. You don't have to stop and be processed through Customs when going from Nevada to California.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2618861]Except I'm not carrying any "cbd" or other substance that may be illegal. And no, they can't detain me forever. They can't confiscate my possessions and let me go either. Its in THEIR best interest not to do that because if the word gets out this is happening less people will come to a country that wants to go through your laptop and cellphone for no reason (I also doubt this is happening at all).[/QUOTE]Jajaja you are very naive. Go test your American privilege in Colombia, I dare you. I suggest you do research on how prisons operate in South America before you test your luck.

[QUOTE=Plan77;2619327]Without getting into too many specifics, this is beginning to happen more frequently now. A single male traveler with a history of travel to Thailand, Colombia, Cambodia and Costa Rica. Boom - expect to be grilled and have all of your stuff turned upside down. Customs some times take your electronics stuff away for hours, yes plural hours, and inspect it, far away from your eyes.

Don't be stupid. Take care and of course, don't indulge in illegal activities.

Now, can anyone please point me to any info on that sex tourism law that has been mentioned recently. About buying sex. I am not aware of any such law.[/QUOTE]The law being referred to is known as Sesta-Fosta. It's intended to be used against sex trafficking, not sex tourism. It also closed a loophole which left online services immune from the actions of their users. For instance, before the law you could have run a sex trafficking operation openly on Facebook and Facebook had no liability. If I remember correctly, this law was the reason why ISG and USASG relocated their servers to Netherlands.

Personally I doubt if anyone is interested in going through phones to see what pictures random travelers have. However, if you've been identified as someone involved in sex trafficking, they might be interested, to see if there's enough evidence to either prosecute you or turn you over to the US authorities.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2618910]They don't have to "charge" you with anything. They can just hold you for a year pending investigation, no bail, and can get extensions on that if they want. In the meantime you are in a rat hole with no beds or changes of clothes or means to wash them, and no food unless you have money to buy it. You aren't in Kansas anymore Dorothy.[/QUOTE]If he took a look at how prisons in Colombia is run, he'd think twice before testing his luck. LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2619928]US authorities are only interested in harassing guys who have been having a good time fucking on the cheap. They are totally uninterested if you visited a legal brothel in Nevada as then they know you would have been fucked; they would just secretly laugh at you.[/QUOTE]Funny! Do you think they're jealous, knowing that mongers are having a good time and they are slaving away at their boring job.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2619994]Funny! Do you think they're jealous, knowing that mongers are having a good time and they are slaving away at their boring job.[/QUOTE]You don't think they get days off and do the same thing? Because I am here to tell you that they do. A buddy of mine that died a couple of years ago was an undercover detective in New York City and he posted on here all the time when he went to places like Brazil, Colombia, DR, Thailand, etc. The job is not the person.

[QUOTE=RacShack;2619662]What am I missing bud? Do you or other poster not know about checking in online the night before and head straight to the gate? Or is this a spirit thing? I refuse to fly them anymore, please explain, I haven't waited in a check in line in over 8-10 years! Granted I'm a carry on person for no matter how long trip is, even if checking bags is their not a bag drop?[/QUOTE]Every time I have flown Spirit from the Yew Ess to another country they have made me check in either on their machine or in person.

So continuing from my previous posts about Claro phone registration, out of the blue today, without even having attempted registration for nearly a week, I suddenly get a success message. Screenshots says it all. Like I said, I think the Claro registration system was fucked up and somehow someone fixed it.

I took the Bus from Rio Negro airport to Medellin San Diego mall today.

Everything went fine.

The bus Was for 13 k, the helper AT the drop off who carried My baggage got 2 k from me and the Taxi to Poblado from there Was also 13 k.

There is really many Action out here in Poblado.

But I'm too tired to leave the hotel, so I Just went to sleep and will start tomorrow with full Batteries and go to centro.

The street vendors there are also selling sim cards right?

Having a good time here in the USA but my life in Medellin is better. Everyday I think about returning. I will return to MDE in 2021 which I'm sure will spill over into 2022. I am in Folly Beach, South Carolina at The Tides hotel now and drive back to my house in my classic Z with my ex-wife later this morning. She will return to Pennsylvania on Monday and then I will start working on my immigration Visa for Colombia.

I enjoyed seeing my ex-wife and we travel well together and are great friends but it was also a great reminder of why I do not want to return to my former life, ever.

I have a wonderful lifestyle here in the United States, There are plenty of available females, but everything is easier, more fun, less expensive, less hassle, and more enjoyable for me in Medellin.

The main reason I don't just chuck everything and stay in Medellin fulltime is because my house and vehicles are paid for, and I have a couple of small business interests that I like to keep tabs on. I'm not quite ready to liquidate yet.

Plus, I have this crazy idea of bringing a few, or several, or a constantly stream of Colombian chicas back here for short-term visits and unlimited sex while showing them around the states.

A couple of guys from the board here have told me that's difficult to do. But I'm one of those types who never believes that it can't be done until I try it myself, and frankly I've already done several things quite happily in MDE that I was told couldn't be done, so full steam ahead and damn the torpedoes, as usual.

I have an immigration attorney here in South Carolina who is from Bogota and he acts like it's not going to be a big deal to bring some chicas over but of course that remains to be seen. I will let the board here know how that pans out.

For starters, any Colombian who visits the United States needs a Visa.

Ostee Out.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2618910]They don't have to "charge" you with anything. They can just hold you for a year pending investigation, no bail, and can get extensions on that if they want. In the meantime you are in a rat hole with no beds or changes of clothes or means to wash them, and no food unless you have money to buy it. You aren't in Kansas anymore Dorothy.[/QUOTE]Pending investigation into what? A guy not unlocking his cellphone? Stop watching netflix buddy.

Idk if anyone has tried to go to casa Cuba lately, as the location on the map hasnt updated. So you see casa Cuba. On carr 47 calle 59. It moved.

So keep walking down calle 59 towards carr 48, take a left downhill on carr 48.

Carr 48 -58-64-- to the right of this building is a giant parking garage thing. Can't miss it walk in and go past the security, you will see an outdoor staircase to your left. Walk up, that is the new casa Cuba.

Simply the best, the best. Sebastian the bro who runs the place knows how to pick his girls. Always BBBJ and ymmv on DFK.

I've yet to see a gringo here but I've exhausted my presence at this casa LMAO so it's all yours.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2620246]However, it's a possibility. If it's a possibility, then you should be aware of your lack of any right to refuse. Several of us have tried to make you aware, but apparently you're immune to knowledge.[/QUOTE]Anything is possible, but is it at all probable? You guys act like the man is going to walk through immigration cussing people out and making demands. And who even is this person that is supposed to be asking him to unlock his phone? Everytime I pass through, it is just simple security saying to put things on the belt and do you have anything in your pockets.

The time I was taken to the back it had nothing to do with that. I was actually in the front of the airport just hanging around waiting to check in or something and the guy came up to me and told me to come to the back room for a random search. You guys are acting like someone telling a passenger to unlock their phone is an everyday occurrence when it is not. Next up: what to do and not do when you get a snake bite in Botero Park.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2620326]Anything is possible, but is it at all probable? You guys act like the man is going to walk through immigration cussing people out and making demands. And who even is this person that is supposed to be asking him to unlock his phone? Everytime I pass through, it is just simple security saying to put things on the belt and do you have anything in your pockets.

The time I was taken to the back it had nothing to do with that. I was actually in the front of the airport just hanging around waiting to check in or something and the guy came up to me and told me to come to the back room for a random search. You guys are acting like someone telling a passenger to unlock their phone is an everyday occurrence when it is not. Next up: what to do and not do when you get a snake bite in Botero Park.[/QUOTE]No one has stated that it is probable. We have stated that it's a possibility and if it happens, he shouldn't act like he has the same rights he has in his own country.

What's obnoxious is this guy (I don't think he's even been to Colombia) ignores sensible advice and keeps acting like foreign police / security must respect his "rights. ".

The best advice of course is don't have anything possibly incriminating or illegal on your possession (including your devices).

Has anyone traveled by bus from Medellin to Cartagena or Bogota? Is the route scenic and worth?

I Just came back from El centro.

My first fuck in Medellin.

Took a small one with died Red hair.

She reminded me of a Filipina because she was so small.

Paid 30 k + 20 k for BBBJ. During the Session I Upgraded to BBFS for additional 20 k, because as expected I could not finish with condom.

So 70 k for full BBBFS and 7 k for the room. I hope this was not too much.

Tomorrow I will come again for a next chica.

In the evening I will try something Here in Poblado but don't expect prices Like in centro.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2620366]I Just came back from El centro.

My first fuck in Medellin.

Took a small one with died Red hair.

She reminded me of a Filipina because she was so small.

Paid 30 k + 20 k for BBBJ. During the Session I Upgraded to BBFS for additional 20 k, because as expected I could not finish with condom.

So 70 k for full BBBFS and 7 k for the room. I hope this was not too much.

Tomorrow I will come again for a next chica.

In the evening I will try something Here in Poblado but don't expect prices Like in centro.[/QUOTE]Another centro rat has been born. And my friend, you got a deal with BBFS for 20 k extra lmao.

Expect 200 k min in poblado without the extras. i was there two nights ago but did not partake, as I already finished thrice that day. it felt like the usa with all the gringos in lleras, and scammers everywhere. couldnt walk 100 feet without hearing english. i without a doubt feel safer in centro.
PS: in poblado make SURE you agree to pesos! it is the norm now for pros there to trick or expect 200 USD lol!

Keep these reports coming in!

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2620302]Idk if anyone has tried to go to casa Cuba lately, as the location on the map hasnt updated. So you see casa Cuba. On carr 47 calle 59. It moved.

So keep walking down calle 59 towards carr 48, take a left downhill on carr 48.

Carr 48 -58-64-- to the right of this building is a giant parking garage thing. Can't miss it walk in and go past the security, you will see an outdoor staircase to your left. Walk up, that is the new casa Cuba.

Simply the best, the best. Sebastian the bro who runs the place knows how to pick his girls. Always BBBJ and ymmv on DFK.

I've yet to see a gringo here but I've exhausted my presence at this casa LMAO so it's all yours.[/QUOTE]What were the prices?

[QUOTE=MadhuBhat;2620351]Has anyone traveled by bus from Medellin to Cartagena or Bogota? Is the route scenic and worth?[/QUOTE]I've driven from Bogota to Medellin and back to Bogota by a different route. Parts of the route are scenic.

Is it worth it? You're talking about an 8-10 hour drive, not including stops. Actually probably a minimum of 10 hours because I was driving like a wild man at times.

If someone is paying you $30 per hour or more to ride the bus, it might be worth it, although I would hold out for more.

[QUOTE=MadhuBhat;2620351]Has anyone traveled by bus from Medellin to Cartagena or Bogota? Is the route scenic and worth?[/QUOTE]I took it from BOG to MDE 8 pm to 6 am.

It was the ride from hell!

[QUOTE=MadhuBhat;2620351]Has anyone traveled by bus from Medellin to Cartagena or Bogota? Is the route scenic and worth?[/QUOTE]Not that particular route, but I've done Cali-MDE and I loved it. Beautiful scenery, especially between MDE and Pereira, though a bit scary at times.

In response to being searched, it was the first time ever and when I looked back, I noticed that there were 3 other black males that looked very similar to me. Same hair style same build in body. The entire event was very strange, but I had nothing to hide and didn't resist their request at all. So many events occur in Medellin and you would have to be there to see the events. I easily recognized that many of the airline stewardesses in the stores around Colombia, so don't think they just work the Airlines and go home and disappear. Who knows what could have been said to someone somewhere in Colombia about the wrong activities and boom, we go to the airport and they are searching everyone who looks like Mr. X. Just a scenario.

On to another topic, clearly there are 2 kinds of Mongers in this group, those who once had their way, based on ethnicity, and the rest of us who know the world as it is today. In Colombia, race means nothing, absolutely nothing. So knowing your American rights in Colombia probably does you as much good as a bald headed man in a hair contest. But from many of the posts, clearly many of you feel as though you have a right to contest what these airlines and federal agents ask for and what they request, but clearly many of us know better.

There is absolutely no reason to contest a request from a federal / international / airline staff member unless somewhere along your life one of you have gotten away with an infraction by contesting it in the USA and it worked. Unfortunately for some of us, we have never gotten away with anything and have the slightest desire to every be around the police, feds, CIA, or Colombian authorities. If these people ask you to open your laptop, or unlock your phone, you are going to do just as I did, comply or sit your high and mighty a $$ in a back office somewhere and miss your flight.

The number one reason I provided the information about the search was because it was strange that it occurred and in the past 4 years this is the first time I ever had anyone ask me to unlock my phone and laptop. I for one can tell you, I had a valid PCR covid test in hand and it did not meet the standard of what the Colombian Government was looking for so guess what? I had to go to the first floor and obtain a Antigen test, which took about an hour, therefore I missed my flight as I was not allowed to board until I had proof of a negative covid test that met the Colombian government's standard.

There are far too many options to get photos and video out of Colombia than to be a fool and allow them to catch you red handed with the photos and videos on your personal phone. Who knows, it is someone in this group who is a International Nudity Lawyer who knows all of the international laws of taking photos through the Colombian airport. Me on the other hand, I am not an international Nudity Lawyer and do not want to chance being caught with anything on my phone or laptop that I shouldn't have. To all of you privileged mongers, suck it up buttercup and continue to stay safe. Pollo Negro is Out!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2620417]I've driven from Bogota to Medellin and back to Bogota by a different route. Parts of the route are scenic.

Is it worth it? You're talking about an 8-10 hour drive, not including stops. Actually probably a minimum of 10 hours because I was driving like a wild man at times.

If someone is paying you $30 per hour or more to ride the bus, it might be worth it, although I would hold out for more.[/QUOTE]Just a heads up.

Roundtrip flights from MDE to CTG round trip on Viva Air, a 45 minute flight, as low as $ 75 roundtrip midweek.

Also cheap flights all over the Country from MDE and the local airport for under $ 100.

When I go to CTG from MDE I leave Pobaldo at 11:30 AM, have a flight at 2:00 PM as an example, and am in my Hotel checking in by no later than 3;30 PM. Four hours elapsed time and yes more expensive than the bus.

And I have taken all day bus trips within the Country, and invariably there are delays due to construction, weather, etc.

So very simply put, and if you can afford it, don't mess with buses unless a short trip to Santa Fe or the Penol.

Anything longer, and you will regret it, unless you like driving which I personally don't.

The Global Entry rules condition membership on maintaining full compliance with immigration and customs regulations. This includes counterfeit goods like watches and handbags that some guys like to bring providers. Other things that can get your Global Entry revoked are flouting tobacco and liquor quantity rules or providing inconsistent information to customs and border patrol personnel.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2619163]It's not fair not knowing why you've been denied Global Entry. At least you have TSA pre-check which can be great at times but isn't as prevalent anymore as not enough people have it, hence they don't man all the TSA security entrances at some airports like in Florida, but give you a card that allows you to not to have to take off your shoes.

Probably the worst airport for international arrivals is Fort Lauderdale. No signage when entering for Global Entry. Everybody gets stuck in the same line. I just go around the line walk in, say I have Global Entry and typically am allowed to enter but was recently asked for my Global Entry card which I don't carry with me as my "known traveller" number has always been used for airline travel. FLL is the worst airport to be flying into from Colombia and I'm sure there are other board members you can attest to this.

As far as getting your Global Entry status back, your only option is to retain an attorney and spend big bucks as anything you write will go into the round file, aka trash can. And God forbid if you were put on the Governments no fly list. There are people who have been put on that list in error and have spent a lot of time and money trying to get it undone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2620405]Another centro rat has been born. And my friend, you got a deal with BBFS for 20 k extra lmao.E[/QUOTE]Actually, this newly spawned Centro Rat didn't get the deal you think he got at 70 K.

I know a guy who played Centro for two months recently who is not a board member here, who only did the girls raw in Centro.

And he told me he was paying them as low as 50 K and upwards not including the room for BBFS.

It's very prevalent there contrary to what some may think, as typically for the girls that do it, it's in essence a double pay day for them.

I advise against doing them raw in Centro, but some guys do, and picking up an STD is not worth it.

And I know exactly who the little dyed red hair spinner the other poster was referring to, she's out there all the time, she's approached me, but I have stayed clear of her, and she probably does more guys raw then covered.

The guy I know who did her uncovered more than once said she was really into it, and he cream pied her as well.

Almost like a wet dream coming to fruition for this newly spawned Centro Rat! LOL.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2620599]The Global Entry rules condition membership on maintaining full compliance with immigration and customs regulations. This includes counterfeit goods like watches and handbags that some guys like to bring providers. Other things that can get your Global Entry revoked are flouting tobacco and liquor quantity rules or providing inconsistent information to customs and border patrol personnel.[/QUOTE]Perhaps what some members may not be aware of is that you have to be basically squeaky clean to get Global Entry. I have had it for several years, however I initially never applied for it because I had SENTRI, and those with SENTRI are automatically given Global Entry as qualifying for it is more stringent than Global Entry.

Besides the CBP doing a complete backround check on you and being interviewed in person, I had to bring in copies of my tax returns and other documents which they looked over. When it was time to renew my SENTRI after ten years in June of this year, instead of applying for SENTRI which is used exclusively for crossing from Mexico into the USA where you don't have to wait in a long line, they changed the rules allowing Global Entry holders as well to cross rapidly. So I thought I was going to have to go in for an interview again to get Global Entry and I filled out the online application, and within a few days I got an E mail saying I was approved and to pay a fee for the Global Entry Card that was mailed to me with validity until 2026. When I first obtained SENTRI I was given what's known as a Trusted Travellers Number which has remained the same and is entered into the airlines systems when issuing boarding passes.

Makes a huge difference having it, especially at airports like FLL, along with not having to wait in long lines and includes TSA pre-check as well.

I know several members on this board have it, and I will never do anything to ever jeopardize it which you are warning others about.

YMMV but Centro was a bust this October overall. Some of my observations.

1. It feels more dangerous this time around, especially after dark. More weirdos who I feel are are trying to approach me, especially around the less lit areas. Probably because more foreigners attract more thieves.

2. Way more foreigners around. Some places feel a bar in the Philippines with middle age to older white gentlemen hanging around talking to each other. Didn't see this kind of concentration before.

3. Girls are rejecting offers that are about 50 k less than what I give for FB girls to go to my apartment (yes I know that's not the norm for Centro girls). At that point it's completely not worth it. At a 50 k difference between Centro girls and FB girls, the risk / reward strongly favors FB.

4. Two Vennie girls who I originally met in Bogota Santa Fe in 2019 are now working in Centro Medellin. I re-sessioned with one of them. She tells me the word is already out that there's an influx of foreigners in Medellin and the pay there is superior to Santa Fe. And added to the better climate in Medellin, there are strong incentives to move their services here.

Surf, you're right, I guess it's a risk / reward kind of thing. I was moreso saying it's a deal for him as it was his first centro fuck, not sure if he speaks spanish or not. He couldve easily been quoted double that. LOL!

-anyways,

Been back on the centro grind every night this week, man's got to hunt.

i've mentioned this before, but More than half the time I get a cerveza with a girl before hand to build up rapport and get GFE, DFK is almost gauranteed when you do this as you're not another stranger having sex after a 20 second convo.

Lately, I've been getting a beer and going for girls that are -already drinking- . Like buzzed. Not sure why this wasnt my M. O. Before.

Peak in the bars behind veracruz where theyre sitting, when they have beers in their hand, have a shot or two with them of aguardiente, it's like water if you're a male over 180 lbs but for girls it hits hard IME.

Just this afternoon I was posted up by the barbershop, a tan vennie with red streaks in her hair, valeria, with a kille rbod and cute face walks by with a beer. Bingo. We make eyecontant, motion her over, I smell the beer on her breath and she's very talkative.

30 k + 6 k pieza, we each get another beer, she chugs half of hers right away lol.
I tell her to put on reggaeton, she starts grinding, turns around and DFK, I get undressed and she takes off her shirt, She looks at the dick and I go "te gusta? she says yea. i go Chupalo asi". She gets on her knees and goes to town. From their rubber goes on, mish and doggy, then mish, she's acting like a girlfriend trying to get preggo with her legs wrapped around.

So yea.

SW + drinks= money. the barrio girls love to party.

And for the simps, if they're more buzzed than you / drunk, it's not freaking non-consensual. They're getting paid lmao. I'm sure many to cast judgement have fucked girls high as fuck on glue or coked out at the club and didn't even notice.

So, I had to delay my upcoming trip. I had booked 8 nights at Hotel M (La Mansion). I paid a deposit of 2 nights per the website and I expected to lose this as I had to cancel within 72 hours. But they have now sent me a message saying that I have to pay for the full 8 nights.

I feel like I'm being scammed here. There are not terms on their website other than you lose the deposit if you cancel within 72 hours of your visit.

Am I missing something? It's a shame if a monger-oriented establishment is scamming.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2620788]So, I had to delay my upcoming trip. I had booked 8 nights at Hotel M (La Mansion). I paid a deposit of 2 nights per the website and I expected to lose this as I had to cancel within 72 hours. But they have now sent me a message saying that I have to pay for the full 8 nights.

I feel like I'm being scammed here. There are not terms on their website other than you lose the deposit if you cancel within 72 hours of your visit.

Am I missing something? It's a shame if a monger-oriented establishment is scamming.[/QUOTE]They have been scammers for a long time. The one and only time I stayed there, they charged tax in addition to the price on their website. On the website, it stated the price including all taxes. It was only two nights, not worth hassling with them. I had forgotten it stated taxes were included in the price. That was several years ago.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2620782]i've mentioned this before, but More than half the time I get a cerveza with a girl before hand to build up rapport and get GFE, DFK is almost gauranteed when you do this as you're not another stranger having sex after a 20 second convo.

Lately, I've been getting a beer and going for girls that are -already drinking- . Like buzzed. Not sure why this wasnt my M. O. Before.

Peak in the bars behind veracruz where theyre sitting, when they have beers in their hand, have a shot or two with them of aguardiente, it's like water if you're a male over 180 lbs but for girls it hits hard IME.

SW + drinks= money. the barrio girls love to party. [/QUOTE]Talking about being buzzed, you have a whole other subset of girls in Centro that don't drink beer to get a buzz, but instead smoke weed to get high, and I've been with a few of the high ones, and they really get into the sex and literally anything goes because of their altered state.

Lot's of the SW's in Centro love getting high, pounded, and than paid. It's a win win for some of them, especially the ones that are nymphos.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2620809]They have been scammers for a long time. The one and only time I stayed there, they charged tax in addition to the price on their website. On the website, it stated the price including all taxes. It was only two nights, not worth hassling with them. I had forgotten it stated taxes were included in the price. That was several years ago.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'm holding my ground anyway, but good to know I'm not over-reacting. It's a shame because I'm planning a January trip instead but now I'll be going elsewhere. And I won't be recommending to others.

Centro girls cost only 50 K less than facebook girls? I don't dispute it might have been your experience but it's misleading to suggest that this is the prevailing trend. 30 K plus the room of your choice is all anyone needs to pay in Centro. This is straight from the mouth of a Centro rat.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2620758]YMMV but Centro was a bust this October overall. Some of my observations.

1. It feels more dangerous this time around, especially after dark. More weirdos who I feel are are trying to approach me, especially around the less lit areas. Probably because more foreigners attract more thieves.

2. Way more foreigners around. Some places feel a bar in the Philippines with middle age to older white gentlemen hanging around talking to each other. Didn't see this kind of concentration before.

3. Girls are rejecting offers that are about 50 k less than what I give for FB girls to go to my apartment (yes I know that's not the norm for Centro girls). At that point it's completely not worth it. At a 50 k difference between Centro girls and FB girls, the risk / reward strongly favors FB.

4. Two Vennie girls who I originally met in Bogota Santa Fe in 2019 are now working in Centro Medellin. I re-sessioned with one of them. She tells me the word is already out that there's an influx of foreigners in Medellin and the pay there is superior to Santa Fe. And added to the better climate in Medellin, there are strong incentives to move their services here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2620599]The Global Entry rules condition membership on maintaining full compliance with immigration and customs regulations.[/QUOTE]Totally agree.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2620599]Other things that can get your Global Entry revoked are flouting tobacco and liquor quantity rules or providing inconsistent information to customs and border patrol personnel.[/QUOTE]I agree that there are those two for sure. They even mentioned the alcohol issue when I got my Global Entry. It was almost like "Yeah, like do not bring in any drugs, but if you bring in excess liquor and do not pay the customs duty, your global entry is done. " I kind of laughed at which one Customs took more seriously.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2620599]This includes counterfeit goods like watches and handbags that some guys like to bring providers.[/QUOTE]Knowledge, I am not so sure about this one. I have walked across the border and bought counterfeit handbags and declared them when I re-entered the country. The amount I bought was under the dollar limit for goods and there was no issue. Quite frankly, this was a Mexican border town and if Americans could not bring back these fake handbags into the USA, they would not be selling them, and the vendors were selling them in droves.

As to why Mr. E's GE was revoked, Mr. E has admitted to saying crazy things to customs like "I went to Colombia for the women", and he also admitted that he is completely oblivious to the idea that governments are cracking down on prostitution. He said they are just going after marketing. SMH.

Governments have said in the newspapers and elsewhere that they are going after trafficking and to do that, they are going after guys who monger. I have heard time and again guys say, "I am not supporting trafficking" or "They are going after pimps who really traffic and not guys like me" even when American LE has arrested thousands if not millions of mongers in the last few years. When I tell mongers what LE and the government have said, and LE is after them, these guys attack me.

The denial on this issue is just amazing. These guys just invent excuses why LE is not going after them. Mr. E has even said, "I am not doing anything wrong. ", and I want to scream, "Yes, Mr. E if you are telling customs you travel to other countries to fuck hos, even if it is legal in that country, you are doing something wrong in our government's eyes."

Global Entry is part of the trusted traveler program, and that means that the government is going to treat you differently because it trusts you. So even if you are going abroad to do a mountain of white stuff or sleep with a hundred women, you respond with something benign. Why were you in Colombia? "There was a project I was looking to invest in" or "I went to see my GF". If you are going to use the GF line, you should have one girl that you know all about that you can use as your GF.

You are actually protecting the customs agents who let you in because if something bad happens to you in a foreign country, the shit could come back politically on the agent who did not detain you or customs as a whole. You want to represent yourself as a good ambassador for the USA. If you say or imply that you are going abroad to fuck a bunch of hos, I would expect Customs to revoke Global Entry because you are practically admitting you are a bad ambassador.

But I do not think they have to give you any reason to kick you out. If it is the Trusted Traveler program, they can just say, "We do not trust you anymore" and be done with it IMO. Why in the world would you want to give them a reason not to trust you? Like with all LE, you say as little as possible and be as PC as possible.

Today I stayed about 3 hours in centro. I have done a few rounds and drank some beer.

It was raining in between and I could find only one who was meeting my criteria and Budget.

An 18 year Old Venezuelan (I checked the ID) with a pink dress through which you could See Her underwear.

She agreed to 30 k for BBBJ + CFS. And 6 k for the room.

Nothing special. She was cold.

After the BBBJ I fucked her doggy and then mish.

When I Was still naked She Just went haha.

Nothing special at all, only her Teenie body.

Then I went because the rain Was getting stronger.

Tomorrow I will come one Time in the morning and then again in the afternoon.

I think its better than staying there for a few hours.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2620758]YMMV but Centro was a bust this October overall. Some of my observations.

1. It feels more dangerous this time around, especially after dark. More weirdos who I feel are are trying to approach me, especially around the less lit areas. Probably because more foreigners attract more thieves.

2. Way more foreigners around. Some places feel a bar in the Philippines with middle age to older white gentlemen hanging around talking to each other. Didn't see this kind of concentration before.

3. Girls are rejecting offers that are about 50 k less than what I give for FB girls to go to my apartment (yes I know that's not the norm for Centro girls). At that point it's completely not worth it. At a 50 k difference between Centro girls and FB girls, the risk / reward strongly favors FB.

4. Two Vennie girls who I originally met in Bogota Santa Fe in 2019 are now working in Centro Medellin. I re-sessioned with one of them. She tells me the word is already out that there's an influx of foreigners in Medellin and the pay there is superior to Santa Fe. And added to the better climate in Medellin, there are strong incentives to move their services here.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately what you have observed is what I and others have seen happening in Centro over the past several months. It's disheartening for sure, especially for the guys who have been coming to Medellin for years and seeing the changes taking place.

However as far as SW's in Centro rejecting offers that are less than 50 K lower than FB girls, well I'm grappling with that one.

I have no experience with Fayboo girls, but have read the going range is in the neighborhood of 150 K-200 K maybe more. So I'm going to have to assume that your asking the girls who have rejected your offers to spend a couple of hours with you, versus no more than an hour?

Also, even with the onslaught of the foreigners, the locals which are the primary client base for the SW's in Centro, aren't going to be paying what the foreigners are paying.

What I have noticed, and have posted about before, is what I call the SW's who I call "gringo hunters", those who specifically look for gringos / foreigners who will pay more. I suspect these have to be some of the girls you have encountered.

Sounds like your a Fayboo guy, which many guys here are, and I can see where your coming from not wanting to mess with the Centro SW's over 50 K.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2620788]So, I had to delay my upcoming trip. I had booked 8 nights at Hotel M (La Mansion). I paid a deposit of 2 nights per the website and I expected to lose this as I had to cancel within 72 hours. But they have now sent me a message saying that I have to pay for the full 8 nights.

I feel like I'm being scammed here. There are not terms on their website other than you lose the deposit if you cancel within 72 hours of your visit.

Am I missing something? It's a shame if a monger-oriented establishment is scamming.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't expect that they are scamming you. I would check the refund conditions. It seems likely they require payment in full if you cancel within 72 hours of your stay.

I had the same issue with an apartment I rented last trip. I needed to cancel 2 hotel rooms and 1 apartment. The first hotel room cancellation was no problem. The second one Booking said I would have to pay 100%, but I hadn't paid anything and heard nothing from the hotel. The apartment I had paid half up front and I expected I would lose that. However, on the day when I was supposed to check in, they messaged me to arrange pickup of the keys and payment of the remainder.

That was the deciding factor to go ahead with my trip, starting 3 days late. Had a girl I know and trust take the money over and get the keys and I got my original flight moved to a new day.

My suggestion, instead of jumping on the scam bus, is to talk to them and explain your situation. They might let it slide if they believe you're going to stay in the future. Worst case, you're in the same situation you're in right now.

If they require payment in full, when cancelling within 72 hours, there's a reason for it. They are usually booked full at least 2 weeks out. Empty rooms generate no revenue. Trying to find someone, when most of their customers know to book weeks in advance is difficult. For that type of establishment cancellation rate is pretty high.

The reason I say it's pretty high is because they attract 2 types of customers, the repeat customers and the new mongers, or new to Colombia mongers. And the new guys often get cold feet, or get talked out of the trip.

What Fun Luvr said about being double charged with taxes, that would be a scam. Unless you stay beyond 90 days, there's no tax for foreigners. That's one reason why they need to keep a copy of your passport, so they don't have to pay the tax.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2620823]Centro girls cost only 50 K less than facebook girls? ....[/QUOTE]This is what he said.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2620758]... to go to my apartment (....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2620826]Totally agree.

I agree that there are those two for sure. They even mentioned the alcohol issue when I got my Global Entry. It was almost like "Yeah, like do not bring in any drugs, but if you bring in excess liquor and do not pay the customs duty, your global entry is done. " I kind of laughed at which one Customs took more seriously.

Knowledge, I am not so sure about this one. I have walked across the border and bought counterfeit handbags and declared them when I re-entered the country. The amount I bought was under the dollar limit for goods and there was no issue. Quite frankly, this was a Mexican border town and if Americans could not bring back these fake handbags into the USA, they would not be selling them, and the vendors were selling them in droves.

As to why Mr. E's GE was revoked, Mr. E has admitted to saying crazy things to customs like "I went to Colombia for the women", and he also admitted that he is completely oblivious to the idea that governments are cracking down on prostitution. He said they are just going after marketing. SMH..[/QUOTE]I was busted by the FBI in a reverse sting in Chicago answering an online ad for sushi and tamale lunch special.

I asked the dood acting like he was the head dickhead in charge (in his FBI windbreaker) why they are busting us?

He said we are looking for traffickers!

Its about destroying the demand side!

What can they do to putas?

They can fuck your life up way more!

Just put your name and mugshot on the local news!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2620826]...Knowledge, I am not so sure about this one....[/QUOTE]It happened many years ago to a coworker. What I remember was that the fine was for each item, multiply the number of items to calculate the total fine.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2621010]This is what he said.[/QUOTE]Your correct, I missed this as well as he wanted to take them to his apartment, versus at a love motel and this now makes perfect sense.

Taking a SW out of El Centro is kinda like taking a fish out of water.

It's typically not something they have done before, and when you factor in the time involved, and their fear of going with a stranger, it makes more sense as to the pricing he was quoted, and my conjecture that it was for a few hours of time versus a rato was correct, albeit not in Centro.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2620826]Knowledge, I am not so sure about this one. I have walked across the border and bought counterfeit handbags and declared them when I re-entered the country. The amount I bought was under the dollar limit for goods and there was no issue. Quite frankly, this was a Mexican border town and if Americans could not bring back these fake handbags into the USA, they would not be selling them, and the vendors were selling them in droves.[/QUOTE]It's actually illegal, I recall seeing an episode on Border Security, a woman tried to bring in suitcases of counterfeit goods, the border agent allowed her to keep 1, but confiscated the rest.

"It is illegal to purchase counterfeit goods. Bringing them into the United States may result in civil or criminal penalties and purchasing counterfeit goods often supports criminal activities, such as forced labor or human trafficking."

[URL]https://www.cbp.gov/trade/fakegoodsrealdangers[/URL]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2620599]The Global Entry rules condition membership on maintaining full compliance with immigration and customs regulations. This includes counterfeit goods like watches and handbags that some guys like to bring providers. Other things that can get your Global Entry revoked are flouting tobacco and liquor quantity rules or providing inconsistent information to customs and border patrol personnel.[/QUOTE]You are allowed counterfeit items as a personal novelty, but you are not allowed to bring in like 10 of the same thing. If you are in violation of any Customs regulations then they will let you know on the spot or through the postal service and usually with a fine attached and/or making you pay duty for the items you have in excess. They will not just keep it secret and say you fucked up but we are not going to tell you how.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2620812]Thanks, I'm holding my ground anyway, but good to know I'm not over-reacting. It's a shame because I'm planning a January trip instead but now I'll be going elsewhere. And I won't be recommending to others.[/QUOTE]Explain your situation, and ask if you can get credit for a future stay. I know many hotels have clauses around refunds, like for Airbnb's there are several diff versions.

Flexible.

Free cancellation until 24 hours before check-in (time shown in the confirmation email).

After that, cancel before check-in and get a full refund, minus the first night and service fee.

Moderate.

Free cancellation until 5 days before check-in (time shown in the confirmation email).

After that, cancel before check-in and get a 50% refund, minus the first night and service fee.

Strict.

Free cancellation for 48 hours, as long as the guest cancels at least 14 days before check-in (time shown in the confirmation email).

After that, guests can cancel up to 7 days before check-in and get a 50% refund of the nightly rate, and the cleaning fee, but not the service fee.

Super Strict 60 Days.

Guests can cancel at least 60 days before check-in and get a 50% refund of the nightly rate and the cleaning fee, but not the service fee.

The Airbnb service fee is not refundable.

This policy is only available to software-connected hosts.

[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/home/cancellation_policies[/URL]#flexible.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2620710]Perhaps what some members may not be aware of is that you have to be basically squeaky clean to get Global Entry. I have had it for several years, however I initially never applied for it because I had SENTRI, and those with SENTRI are automatically given Global Entry as qualifying for it is more stringent than Global Entry.[/QUOTE]Speaking of SENTRI, I will be going to Tijuana later this month. Planning on hitting up the HK club as my research shows they have the hottest talent. Any tips I should know about for Tijuana mongering? $100 usd for 30 min is pretty steep LOL.

Planning to park at the border and walk across then taxi to the clubs. It's a business trip, so my hotel is booked in San Diego. I'm assuming it's not as dangerous as El Centro in MDE, and I shouldn't have any issue crossing back into SD at 1-2 AM?

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2620840]Today I stayed about 3 hours in centro. I have done a few rounds and drank some beer.

It was raining in between and I could find only one who was meeting my criteria and Budget.

An 18 year Old Venezuelan (I checked the ID) with a pink dress through which you could See Her underwear.

She agreed to 30 k for BBBJ + CFS. And 6 k for the room.

Nothing special. She was cold.

After the BBBJ I fucked her doggy and then mish.

When I Was still naked She Just went haha.[/QUOTE]Centro can be hit or miss and I can see what a letdown it was for you after your first day there.

The beauty of the place is that if you get a dud, and can't blow loads every couple of hours, is to just end the session without nutting.

Pay what you agreed to, and grab another one. Maybe your budget won't allow this, but mine does, and I have done this on occasion, and not because the girl was a bad actor of sorts, but it just wasn't working for me.

The best time to be there is from between 4 PM to 6 PM.

Also, the better providers are going to be the older ones, not the barely legal aged ones. Lots of guys like the legally aged young ones 18, but I rarely hear of guys actually having good experiences with them. Nice to look at with a nice body but not much more.

Hopefully your next experience will be better.

Any place that is best for massage with super hot women in Medellin? Day one was good, going to write up the report over dinner later. P.S. Parque Lleras is not dead, last night was dope.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2620788]

Am I missing something? It's a shame if a monger-oriented establishment is scamming.[/QUOTE]LOL, I generally expect the worst out of monger-oriented establishments, especially in North America and Latin America.

They know they have you by the balls, in so many senses of the word.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2620937]Unfortunately what you have observed is what I and others have seen happening in Centro over the past several months. It's disheartening for sure, especially for the guys who have been coming to Medellin for years and seeing the changes taking place.

However as far as SW's in Centro rejecting offers that are less than 50 K lower than FB girls, well I'm grappling with that one.

I have no experience with Fayboo girls, but have read the going range is in the neighborhood of 150 K-200 K maybe more. So I'm going to have to assume that your asking the girls who have rejected your offers to spend a couple of hours with you, versus no more than an hour?

Also, even with the onslaught of the foreigners, the locals which are the primary client base for the SW's in Centro, aren't going to be paying what the foreigners are paying.

What I have noticed, and have posted about before, is what I call the SW's who I call "gringo hunters", those who specifically look for gringos / foreigners who will pay more. I suspect these have to be some of the girls you have encountered.

Sounds like your a Fayboo guy, which many guys here are, and I can see where your coming from not wanting to mess with the Centro SW's over 50 K.[/QUOTE]You guys missed the key part. He was encountering girls in El Centro who wanted 50 k less than Facebook girls to come to his apartment, which sounds about right to me. Depending on the time of day and where he's staying, the girl could spend an hour or more just getting there and back, plus the cost of a taxi back.

When you break it down to the time you actually spend alone with the girls, there's not a big difference in price between Facebook and El Centro. It's mostly a matter of personal preference.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2621013]It happened many years ago to a coworker. What I remember was that the fine was for each item, multiply the number of items to calculate the total fine.[/QUOTE]I think Mr. E is right about this. They never asked about personal use like they did with prescriptions, but obviously with purses, they were not going to ask that. But I never did bring back 10 of the same item. It was always three or four that were different.

I was always shocked at how much goodwill a $20 or $30 fake purse brought me even when I told women they were fake.

Today I stayed 4 hours and Time runs really fast.

Had two chicas today, Each for 30 k BBBJ + CFS.

The first one Had some baby damage. I only fucked her doggy and finished then. ROOM 7 K.

The BBBJ Was ok. All in all nothing special, but worth 30 k. She Had green / blond Brown dyed hair.

The second one Was a skinny dark which stood outside the church.

She also agreed for the 30 k.

In the room also without any kisses, but She immediately went on the knees for BBBJ which Was nice, Deep and wet.

I really enjoyed that.

Fucked her in different Positions, but could Not finish with the condom.

She then sucks me of again on the knees and I finished in her mouth and She swallowed like it would be a normal Thing.

All in all it was good Day TODAY.

Interesting is when doing BBBJ they never requested shower before and always sucked unwashed.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2619259]Is it the same one that also says that females that get an abortion are required to eat every bit of it before they can go home?[/QUOTE]Much as he would have liked to the Trump never passed a single law.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2620984]I wouldn't expect that they are scamming you. I would check the refund conditions. It seems likely they require payment in full if you cancel within 72 hours of your stay.

I had the same issue with an apartment I rented last trip. I needed to cancel 2 hotel rooms and 1 apartment. The first hotel room cancellation was no problem. The second one Booking said I would have to pay 100%, but I hadn't paid anything and heard nothing from the hotel. The apartment I had paid half up front and I expected I would lose that. However, on the day when I was supposed to check in, they messaged me to arrange pickup of the keys and payment of the remainder.

That was the deciding factor to go ahead with my trip, starting 3 days late. Had a girl I know and trust take the money over and get the keys and I got my original flight moved to a new day.

My suggestion, instead of jumping on the scam bus, is to talk to them and explain your situation. They might let it slide if they believe you're going to stay in the future. Worst case, you're in the same situation you're in right now.

If they require payment in full, when cancelling within 72 hours, there's a reason for it. They are usually booked full at least 2 weeks out. Empty rooms generate no revenue. Trying to find someone, when most of their customers know to book weeks in advance is difficult. For that type of establishment cancellation rate is pretty high.

The reason I say it's pretty high is because they attract 2 types of customers, the repeat customers and the new mongers, or new to Colombia mongers. And the new guys often get cold feet, or get talked out of the trip.

What Fun Luvr said about being double charged with taxes, that would be a scam. Unless you stay beyond 90 days, there's no tax for foreigners. That's one reason why they need to keep a copy of your passport, so they don't have to pay the tax.[/QUOTE]Please point me to the terms and conditions you reference. Because I can't find any. Nor were any communicated to me when I paid by phone.

On the website it says 2 nights deposit is required and this is not refunded if you cancel within 72 hours of your stay. These are the only terms I can find on the full site. Which is why I was expecting to lose the 2 nights. I'm having no further communication with them until they can point me to the terms which state I require to pay in full.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2621103]Please point me to the terms and conditions you reference. Because I can't find any. Nor were any communicated to me when I paid by phone.

On the website it says 2 nights deposit is required and this is not refunded if you cancel within 72 hours of your stay. These are the only terms I can find on the full site. Which is why I was expecting to lose the 2 nights. I'm having no further communication with them until they can point me to the terms which state I require to pay in full.[/QUOTE]Take screenshots and get ready to dispute the charge through your credit card.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2621103]Please point me to the terms and conditions you reference. Because I can't find any. Nor were any communicated to me when I paid by phone.

On the website it says 2 nights deposit is required and this is not refunded if you cancel within 72 hours of your stay. These are the only terms I can find on the full site. Which is why I was expecting to lose the 2 nights. I'm having no further communication with them until they can point me to the terms which state I require to pay in full.[/QUOTE]The scam is in that they charge $80 a night for $20, two star rooms while calling in over priced girls in the 5 to 7 range, while the same you can easily find on your own with Google Translate and very little effort. Then again if their online disclosure says you lose a two night deposit, with no mention of forfeiting payment for your entire stay then you have yet another scam going. For that one deal with your CC company, disputing any charges over the two night deposit.

P.S. Yea I know some mongers need to be coddled, have their hands held, thus the Mansion. If someone hasn't grown a pair by age 50 they likely never will, thus a sad circumstance all the way around.

You are a full fledged Centro rat Sir.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2621085]Today I stayed 4 hours and Time runs really fast.

Had two chicas today, Each for 30 k BBBJ + CFS.

The first one Had some baby damage. I only fucked her doggy and finished then. ROOM 7 K.

The BBBJ Was ok. All in all nothing special, but worth 30 k. She Had green / blond Brown dyed hair.

The second one Was a skinny dark which stood outside the church.

She also agreed for the 30 k.

In the room also without any kisses, but She immediately went on the knees for BBBJ which Was nice, Deep and wet.

I really enjoyed that.

Fucked her in different Positions, but could Not finish with the condom..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2621076]I think Mr. E is right about this....[/QUOTE]The counterfeit items were DVD movies.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2621103]Please point me to the terms and conditions you reference....[/QUOTE]He is saying a possibility and you need to find it which I think you did based on your post.

I'm really questioning myself why I booked my room here in Poblado, but now its too late, because I already paid the full amount.

Everything Poblado has to offer I had in the daytime in centro for much less. Here they are speaking English and prices are quoted often in Dollares. After I came back from centro it bores me here.

I will later ask if I can change to an other ayenda in laureless.

The can Club Colombia here Costs 6 k, in centro I paid 2,3 k. But its still the same beer.

I will not start the topic with chicas, because you know These topic already.

OK, I stand corrected about how to keep Global Entry. I'm pleased to have it for 15 years now, even if its through dumb luck only.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2621028]You are allowed counterfeit items as a personal novelty, but you are not allowed to bring in like 10 of the same thing. If you are in violation of any Customs regulations then they will let you know on the spot or through the postal service and usually with a fine attached and/or making you pay duty for the items you have in excess. They will not just keep it secret and say you fucked up but we are not going to tell you how.[/QUOTE]

Of course it's illegal. The Global Entry rules specifically call out counterfeit goods as an example of what can get your membership denied or revoked. I think Mr. E is right that it isn't likely to be an issue if you have a single item but if the inspector decides to flag you then you are done.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2621024]It's actually illegal, I recall seeing an episode on Border Security, a woman tried to bring in suitcases of counterfeit goods, the border agent allowed her to keep 1, but confiscated the rest.

"It is illegal to purchase counterfeit goods. Bringing them into the United States may result in civil or criminal penalties and purchasing counterfeit goods often supports criminal activities, such as forced labor or human trafficking."

[URL]https://www.cbp.gov/trade/fakegoodsrealdangers[/URL][/QUOTE]

Centro is not for everybody and of course neither is Poblado. You are one of us now Dzika.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2621137]I'm really questioning myself why I booked my room here in Poblado, but now its too late, because I already paid the full amount.

Everything Poblado has to offer I had in the daytime in centro for much less. Here they are speaking English and prices are quoted often in Dollares. After I came back from centro it bores me here.

I will later ask if I can change to an other ayenda in laureless.

The can Club Colombia here Costs 6 k, in centro I paid 2,3 k. But its still the same beer.

I will not start the topic with chicas, because you know These topic already.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2621033]Speaking of SENTRI, I will be going to Tijuana later this month. Planning on hitting up the HK club as my research shows they have the hottest talent. Any tips I should know about for Tijuana mongering? $100 usd for 30 min is pretty steep LOL.

Planning to park at the border and walk across then taxi to the clubs. It's a business trip, so my hotel is booked in San Diego. I'm assuming it's not as dangerous as El Centro in MDE, and I shouldn't have any issue crossing back into SD at 1-2 AM?[/QUOTE]Did you mean to post this on the Tijuana thread?

After one month of searching, I have 50 girls as Friend. They are all clearly pro or semi-pro.

Now, when I talk to a SW, I'm comfortable asking "how much" or proposing my amount, but this is my first time with FB girls. How to ask them on Messenger "how much". I don't want to be banned from FB, or simply appear unnecessarily rude with them.

P.S. Next Saturday I'll be in Medellin testing all the great things I have learnt from this community.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2621085]Today I stayed 4 hours and Time runs really fast.

Had two chicas today, Each for 30 k BBBJ + CFS.

The first one Had some baby damage. I only fucked her doggy and finished then. ROOM 7 K.

The BBBJ Was ok. All in all nothing special, but worth 30 k. She Had green / blond Brown dyed hair.

The second one Was a skinny dark which stood outside the church.

She also agreed for the 30 k.

In the room also without any kisses, but She immediately went on the knees for BBBJ which Was nice, Deep and wet.

I really enjoyed that.

Fucked her in different Positions, but could Not finish with the condom.

She then sucks me of again on the knees and I finished in her mouth and She swallowed like it would be a normal Thing.

All in all it was good Day TODAY.

Interesting is when doing BBBJ they never requested shower before and always sucked unwashed.[/QUOTE]They did you a favor by not kissing you! Why in the world would you even want or try to kiss a street prepago? Hopefully by seeing that you got BJ no condom and wasn't even asked to wash will be a lesson to you and anyone else who is looking for kisses. They lick butt too.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2621035]Also, the better providers are going to be the older ones, not the barely legal aged ones. Lots of guys like the legally aged young ones 18, but I rarely hear of guys actually having good experiences with them. Nice to look at with a nice body but not much more.

Hopefully your next experience will be better.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right. The only nice hing about her was the teenie body without any baby damage.

The older give the better experience almost every time, because they have more experience and are not shy.

But she approached me today (in a White dress with Red plastic devil Horns on her head, together with her Clique) and I was really considering taking her again because of her nice teenie body, but after 2 nuts and multiple cervezas doing a third one with condom is close to impossible for me.

Maybe tomorrow or not. I Will see what's on offer.

Tomorrow of course I go to centro again, but then without the cervezas, hopefully I can nut better then.

Poblado bores me.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2621152]They did you a favor by not kissing you! Why in the world would you even want or try to kiss a street prepago? Hopefully by seeing that you got BJ no condom and wasn't even asked to wash will be a lesson to you and anyone else who is looking for kisses. They lick butt too.[/QUOTE]Yes you are right! Also the swallowing was a normal Thing for her.

And during Our Session she had not seen the bathroom from inside. No rinsing the mouth, nothing. Bon Appetit haha!

My first one (and last one) gave me DFK.

Bit you are right, I Will stat away from Things like that from now on.

I rarely lie to the chicas, but this is one case where I do. I tell them that I know their time is very valuable (which it really is not, if you consider the Colombian minimum wage) and wonder how much they require for their time. I never talk about the actual acts. That comes later. Better to know if they are reasonable or think you are a sucker.

If they ask for more than 200, I tell them that I am sure they are worth it, but that I have been traveling to Colombia for 16 years and have some friends who give me great service for much less. Sometimes they come back with a more realistic price (once they realize that I'm not a newbie or a sucker) and sometimes they don't. Be willing to walk away. A lot of the girls will direct you to Whatsapp when you start talking about money or services to be provided.

All of that said, sometimes you just get a vibe. And I don't end up talking anything about money. We both know money will be involved. But we focus more on the time we'll be together. In those cases, I just pay them at the end. Can only think of one or two instances when the girl wanted more than what I gave. Most of those girls are happy. And many of them never look to see what I gave them. But it takes time to get a feel for when you can treat a girl like this or when you need to negotiate in advance.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2621150]After one month of searching, I have 50 girls as Friend. They are all clearly pro or semi-pro.

Now, when I talk to a SW, I'm comfortable asking "how much" or proposing my amount, but this is my first time with FB girls. How to ask them on Messenger "how much". I don't want to be banned from FB, or simply appear unnecessarily rude with them.

P.S. Next Saturday I'll be in Medellin testing all the great things I have learnt from this community.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2621085]Today I stayed 4 hours and Time runs really fast.
Had two chicas today, Each for 30 k BBBJ + CFS.
Interesting is when doing BBBJ they never requested shower before and always sucked unwashed.[/QUOTE]So this begs the question whether the girls are showering and your not?

And if the girls are not requesting to shower beforehand, your not requiring them to shower?

I've never ever done a girl in Centro without both of us showering beforehand, but also don't use the 7 K rooms that don't have hot water either.

Honestly, and this is just me, I wouldn't feel comfortable if a girl didn't ask me to shower before blowing me. Yet I am aware that a lot of the locals using the 7 K rooms on the backside of the Church are used to just peeling their clothes off and going at it.

So your rolling like a local which is awesome!

Welcome to the club!

Does anyone know where I can buy tadalafil (Cialis) for a decent price here in Medellin?

Are they are selling fakes somewhere?

I Was in the pharmacy and they quoted me a ridiculous price (240 k for a Box of 8 pills a 20 MG).

I could not believe that and was thinking this is some understanding mistake and needed to switch to English and even showing the price with an calculator.

Can I buy tadalafil somewhere here for a acceptable price or better to buy somewhere else?

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2621150]A... How to ask them on Messenger "how much". I don't want to be banned from FB, ...[/QUOTE]Get their number to message on WhatsApp.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2621145]Of course it's illegal. The Global Entry rules specifically call out counterfeit goods as an example of what can get your membership denied or revoked. I think Mr. E is right that it isn't likely to be an issue if you have a single item but if the inspector decides to flag you then you are done.[/QUOTE]My wingman got busted on that and that is why he can not get global entry. They told him about the one item as a novelty deal when he got busted.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2621145]Of course it's illegal. The Global Entry rules specifically call out counterfeit goods as an example of what can get your membership denied or revoked. I think Mr. E is right that it isn't likely to be an issue if you have a single item but if the inspector decides to flag you then you are done.[/QUOTE]It is funny how this works. The city I bought these purses in was small, and there was not too much traffic between the USA and Mexico. Border patrol seemed to know that without much foot traffic, their hours / jobs were in jeopardy.

This is in marked contrast to the heavier border crossings in Juarez / El Paso and San Diego / Tijuana. The attitudes there were much different and much more strict. Come to think of it, I did not see many counterfeit goods in Juarez or Tijuana. When I say there were fake purses, I mean all the big stores had them, and the stores had thousands if not tens of thousands of them. They were illegal DVDs being sold but they were usually just sold by street vendors. It is amazing then how the law is so variably enforced.

Thanks for the info, Knowledge and BT. I usually declare nothing when I fly in and use GE and do not bring anything so there has been no issue but this is good to know.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2621035]Centro can be hit or miss and I can see what a letdown it was for you after your first day there.

The beauty of the place is that if you get a dud, and can't blow loads every couple of hours, is to just end the session without nutting.

Pay what you agreed to, and grab another one. Maybe your budget won't allow this, but mine does, and I have done this on occasion, and not because the girl was a bad actor of sorts, but it just wasn't working for me.

The best time to be there is from between 4 PM to 6 PM.

Also, the better providers are going to be the older ones, not the barely legal aged ones. Lots of guys like the legally aged young ones 18, but I rarely hear of guys actually having good experiences with them. Nice to look at with a nice body but not much more.

Hopefully your next experience will be better.[/QUOTE]I consider that to be a universal truth, the older women are more likely to give better service. I've had a couple in the 18-20 range who knocked it out of the park. However, in late 20's to mid 30's range they are almost always much more into it. Doesn't matter if they're pro or not.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2621159]I rarely lie to the chicas, but this is one case where I do. I tell them that I know their time is very valuable (which it really is not, if you consider the Colombian minimum wage) and wonder how much they require for their time. I never talk about the actual acts. That comes later. Better to know if they are reasonable or think you are a sucker.

If they ask for more than 200, I tell them that I am sure they are worth it, but that I have been traveling to Colombia for 16 years and have some friends who give me great service for much less. Sometimes they come back with a more realistic price (once they realize that I'm not a newbie or a sucker) and sometimes they don't. Be willing to walk away. A lot of the girls will direct you to Whatsapp when you start talking about money or services to be provided.

All of that said, sometimes you just get a vibe. And I don't end up talking anything about money. We both know money will be involved. But we focus more on the time we'll be together. In those cases, I just pay them at the end. Can only think of one or two instances when the girl wanted more than what I gave. Most of those girls are happy. And many of them never look to see what I gave them. But it takes time to get a feel for when you can treat a girl like this or when you need to negotiate in advance.[/QUOTE]That's almost exactly my answer. Occasionally a girl will ask if I'm aware that she expects to be paid. My answer is always "por supuesto", of course.

Some other useful phrases, when a girl asks for more than I will pay:

"Te entiendo, pero siempre pago (whatever price I'm willing to pay her). Tal vez un otro DIA."

I understand you, but I always pay _. Perhaps another day.

It's basically a shortcut to let her know it's not my first rodeo. It also gives her a graceful way to either walk away or negotiate. Often she'll ask if I'll pay for her taxi. If she's unwilling at that time she might drop her price later depending on her needs.

It also helps to know that there are different pricing levels. That's another thing gained through experience. There are many who aren't coming out for less than 300-500 k, or more. They're the ones who are already making a good living and don't need to turn tricks. Of course just because a girl is asking for that much doesn't mean she belongs at that price.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2621150]After one month of searching, I have 50 girls as Friend. They are all clearly pro or semi-pro.

Now, when I talk to a SW, I'm comfortable asking "how much" or proposing my amount, but this is my first time with FB girls. How to ask them on Messenger "how much". I don't want to be banned from FB, or simply appear unnecessarily rude with them.

P.S. Next Saturday I'll be in Medellin testing all the great things I have learnt from this community.[/QUOTE]I've probably received 40-50 minutes of porn along with hundreds of pictures on Messenger and I've had plenty of discussions about setting up a P4P date. You don't have to worry about getting blocked.

Just approach it like you would in person.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2621150]After one month of searching, I have 50 girls as Friend. They are all clearly pro or semi-pro.

Now, when I talk to a SW, I'm comfortable asking "how much" or proposing my amount, but this is my first time with FB girls. How to ask them on Messenger "how much". I don't want to be banned from FB, or simply appear unnecessarily rude with them.

P.S. Next Saturday I'll be in Medellin testing all the great things I have learnt from this community.[/QUOTE]When I am talking to FB chicas I only use messenger for the initial contact and then move the conversation to Whatsapp. I do not trust FB with that information.

As far as talking about payment I read a great line that another BM posted on here some time ago. When it is time to talk about money I write "siempre pago 150 k COP mas taxi. Esta bien?" So far I have only had one ask me for more and she wanted 200 k total which is essentially the same amount.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2621115]The scam is in that they charge $80 a night for $20, two star rooms while calling in over priced girls in the 5 to 7 range, while the same you can easily find on your own with Google Translate and very little effort. Then again if their online disclosure says you lose a two night deposit, with no mention of forfeiting payment for your entire stay then you have yet another scam going. For that one deal with your CC company, disputing any charges over the two night deposit.

P.S. Yea I know some mongers need to be coddled, have their hands held, thus the Mansion. If someone hasn't grown a pair by age 50 they likely never will, thus a sad circumstance all the way around.[/QUOTE]I feel I should comment on this, because I know you're a stickler for accuracy.

In that area of Poblado you won't find any $20 hotel rooms. However, very close to the Mansion is Hotel Poblado Plaza, which charges the same price for a room. I've stayed there and the rooms are much nicer. However, I believe they charge 100 k for each guest. So if you're planning on bringing girls to you room the Mansion has its advantages.

It's worth noting they've remodeled most of the rooms in the past 2 years, which should increase the value.

My experience from my brief stay is that the girls average better than you'll find in the casas, quite a bit better. I also have quite a few girls on Facebook who regularly post pictures from the Mansion and very few casa girls are comparable.

Concerning your postscript, the same could be applied to those who visit casas and strip clubs. You have preset prices and time limits and a mostly predetermined level of service. It's not difficult, although many casas require you to climb stairs.

However, that's not how I see things. The first gringo monger I met in Medellin had been told by others he should stay in El Centro, on his first mongering trip and his first trip to Colombia. I recommended staying at the Mansion. He spent 1 night in an El Centro hotel, afraid to leave his room. The next day he was lucky enough to get a room at the Mansion and his trip was salvaged.

Everyone has a different comfort zone and it has nothing to do with needing someone to hold their hand. There are mongers with decades of experience all over the world who like to have a wingman.

The Mansion isn't for everyone, but neither is Conejitas. Each has things which appeal to some and each has its drawbacks. Criticizing someone for how they choose to monger seems petty. I say if what you're doing makes you happy, then do it.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2621137]I'm really questioning myself why I booked my room here in Poblado, but now its too late, because I already paid the full amount.

Everything Poblado has to offer I had in the daytime in centro for much less. Here they are speaking English and prices are quoted often in Dollares. After I came back from centro it bores me here.

I will later ask if I can change to an other ayenda in laureless.

The can Club Colombia here Costs 6 k, in centro I paid 2,3 k. But its still the same beer.

I will not start the topic with chicas, because you know These topic already.[/QUOTE]Perhaps spend an evening in El Centro say from around 7 PM until 10 PM if you haven't already done so and walk around the Veracruz Church area, the Museum, and under the Metro. Up until around 8-9 PM things will kinda be okay, a bit dicey, but when all the storefronts are shut down the creepy crawlies, zombies, sacaleros, and other creatures of the night will be out and you do not want to be there, however the Avenida De La Grief area wil be okay where the bars are open on the main road. Once the Police are gone in Centro, it becomes the Wild West on steroids.

Lots of guys who stay in Centro don't go out much at night as it's not safe, but it's not safe in Poblado either, but perhaps safer within the major entertainment areas around Lleras and Provenza. If you like being out at night for dinner, people watching, etc. Centro is not the place to be. You might like the vibe of LA 70 in Laureles, and if you stay near the Metro Station it would perfect for you as you can hop on the Mettro, transfer at the San Antonio Station, and boom your one stop away from ground zero at the Parque Berrio Station.

If you can pass as a Colombian looks wise including how your dressed versus being an obvious foreigner this well help being out at night, yet nobody is immune from being jacked up and being an obvious foreigner puts a big bullseye on your back whether it's day or night. So although things are more expensive outside of Centro, I don't recommend guys stay there yet many do. I have an Asian friend who sticks out like a sore thumb that rents a room in a building near the Nutibarra Hotel, and he says he stays out until about 8 PM, but than hunkers down in his room until morning.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2621137]I'm really questioning myself why I booked my room here in Poblado, but now its too late, because I already paid the full amount.

Everything Poblado has to offer I had in the daytime in centro for much less. Here they are speaking English and prices are quoted often in Dollares. After I came back from centro it bores me here.

I will later ask if I can change to an other ayenda in laureless.

The can Club Colombia here Costs 6 k, in centro I paid 2,3 k. But its still the same beer.

I will not start the topic with chicas, because you know These topic already.[/QUOTE]You take accommodation in Poblado if you want to hobnob with the Colombian well-to-dos.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2621304]You take accommodation in Poblado if you want to hobnob with the Colombian well-to-dos.[/QUOTE]Poblado is where I liked to stay in Medellin. Clean and relatively safe with lots of hot chicas walking around LOL! From there, I could go anywhere I wanted to in the city or area, then return to the comfort and safety of home base.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2621174]Does anyone know where I can buy tadalafil (Cialis) for a decent price here in Medellin?

Are they are selling fakes somewhere?

I Was in the pharmacy and they quoted me a ridiculous price (240 k for a Box of 8 pills a 20 MG).

I could not believe that and was thinking this is some understanding mistake and needed to switch to English and even showing the price with an calculator.

Can I buy tadalafil somewhere here for a acceptable price or better to buy somewhere else?[/QUOTE]For generic Viagra 50 MG it should be about 8-10 K for four pills and all of the brands seem to work very well.

What probably happened was that you were quoted the real Cilalis versus a generic which should of been substantially less.

Just shop around, ask to see the expiration date, fecha de vencimento on the box, and talk with the people in the pharmacy.

Nothing wrong with the generics, and I have never heard of fake ED drugs being sold in a Colombian pharmacy, especially in the chain pharmacies, so I wouldn't be concerned about that.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2621163]So this begs the question whether the girls are showering and your not?

And if the girls are not requesting to shower beforehand, your not requiring them to shower?

I've never ever done a girl in Centro without both of us showering beforehand, but also don't use the 7 K rooms that don't have hot water either.

Honestly, and this is just me, I wouldn't feel comfortable if a girl didn't ask me to shower before blowing me. Yet I am aware that a lot of the locals using the 7 K rooms on the backside of the Church are used to just peeling their clothes off and going at it.

So your rolling like a local which is awesome!

Welcome to the club![/QUOTE]I must admit that I enjoyed the BBBJ without shower before.

I always shower before I leave the hotel and I'm circumcised so I didn't felt dirty or smelly and was comfortable with them sucking me off without a shower before.

But I always showered (and always will) After the deed.

Thanks for all the other information.

Today I will go a bit later to centro (without gringo clothing) and See if I still like it then.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2621174]Does anyone know where I can buy tadalafil (Cialis) for a decent price here in Medellin?
I Was in the pharmacy and they quoted me a ridiculous price (240 k for a Box of 8 pills a 20 MG).
[/QUOTE]Not sure, but you can buy 2 pills of Sildenafil 100 MG for 7. 500 from pharmacies in El Centro. It works just as well for me, and a fraction of the price. I only use half each time.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2621202] Some other useful phrases, when a girl asks for more than I will pay: "Te entiendo, pero siempre pago (whatever price I'm willing to pay her). Tal vez un otro dia."[/QUOTE]So in Spanish, you never, ever, ever use 'un' with 'otro' nor 'una' with 'otra. ' Nunca. Jamás. It's included. The Spanish word for 'other' is otro / otra. And, the Spanish word for '[B]another' is. (wait for it) .[B]otro/otra[/B]. So, 'un otro día' is incorrect and redundant. It's just 'tal vez otro día. ' Native speakers of English have a hard time with this. In general in Spanish, the indefinite article (a, an, some) is used much less frequently than in English. The definite article (the) is used much more frequently than in English.

I need a car: 'Necesito coche.' Not 'necesito un coche.'

I like dogs: 'Me gustan [B]los[/B] perros.' Not 'me gustan perros.'

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2621292] Up until around 8-9 PM things will kinda be okay, a bit dicey, but when all the storefronts are shut down the creepy crawlies, zombies, sacaleros, and other creatures of the night will be out and you do not want to be there, however the Avenida De La Grief area wil be okay where the bars are open on the main road.
Lots of guys who stay in Centro don't go out much at night as it's not safe...
If you can pass as a Colombian looks wise including how your dressed versus being an obvious foreigner this well help being out at night.[/QUOTE]Agree with the first 2 comments. The strip of bars / clubs with Conejitas etc is fine in the day and night. Also worth noting that Mercado de La Playa is also quite a cool place at night. Plaza with about 20-30 restaurants and bars. And full of normal people. Its on La Playa - 10 min walk from Botero area. 5 k in a taxi.

As for passing as a local, we have had this discussion 100's of times and I think it is total garbage. Hehe. Every local will tell you a story of them being mugged in Centro. Its exactly the same risk to them. Muggers look for easy targets. That's all there is to it. Being a foeigner or being local doesn't come in to their thinking.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2621360]As for passing as a local, we have had this discussion 100's of times and I think it is total garbage. Hehe. Every local will tell you a story of them being mugged in Centro. Its exactly the same risk to them. Muggers look for easy targets. That's all there is to it. Being a foeigner or being local doesn't come in to their thinking.[/QUOTE]All due respect, but your not giving the Ladrones, Rateros, aka muggers enough credit. The easier targets for them are the foreigners hand down because they are not locals, probably won't have a knife on them and will be more reluctant not to put up a fight, and are known to have more things of value on them in terms of cash and other items of value on them than the locals.

So put yourself in a muggers shoes. Two men of the same size are walking on a deserted street. One on one side of the street is local, and on the other side is an obvious foreigner. So you don't think that will factor into a muggers decision as to which one to jack up.

I'm not disagreeing with the premise that everyone is at risk whether a local or a foreigner, but just am saying that the smarter muggers will be selective if and when they have the opportunity.

As far as passing as a local, well it does make a difference in many ways, especially in El Centro.

You have to ask yourself whether you would rather not stick out like a sore thumb with everyone checking you out and looking at you, versus nobody giving you a second look.

For some guys in Centro who are obvious foreigners, they garner a lot of attention with the Chicas as they like the attention.

While there are other foreigners, albeit a few, who can pass as a Colombian looks / dress wise who want no attention at all, and would rather be flying under the radar with now one paying attention to them.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2621358]So in Spanish, you never, ever, ever use 'un' with 'otro' nor 'una' with 'otra. ' Nunca. Jams. It's included. The Spanish word for 'other' is otro / otra. And, the Spanish word for 'another' is. (wait for it) . So, 'un otro da' is incorrect and redundant. It's just 'tal vez otro da. ' Native speakers of English have a hard time with this. In general in Spanish, the indefinite article (a, an, some) is used much less frequently than in English. The definite article (the) is used much more frequently than in English.

I need a car: 'Necesito coche.' Not 'necesito un coche.'

I like dogs: 'Me gustan perros.' Not 'me gustan perros.'[/QUOTE]Poor Jbee2 with all those Spanish courses he took at EAFIT and still can't get it right.

Yet everybody will understand exactly what he is saying whether he should of used an "a" or an "o" or should of left something out.

Oh, and you left out the "a" in Jamas which like Nunca means never, and I knew you weren't referring to a jam you spread on toast. LOL.

All kidding aside, I wish I had a better knowledge of the language, and grapple at times, like most of the time, but typically can get my point across. I struggle when people speak quickly, or have a an accent.

As an example, I remember being in Glasgow England and swore the people weren't speaking English but they were.

When I first moved to Medellin, I shopped at different pharmacies all over downtown. I found widely varying prices for generic sildenafil.

Then I tried Drogas Calidad, CL 54 # 47-29, near Parque Bolivar, have never shopped anywhere else since. Two 50 MG generic chewable sildenafil of brand AG cost 2. 000 pesos. I usually buy 20 boxes at a time. They also deliver free to anywhere in the city in 2-4 hours.

Don't know about other drugs, but there is always a line. Best time to shop is early in morning.

Perhaps one of you seasoned mongers may be able to offer some advice!

I began frequenting FKK clubs in Germany back in 2013. More specifically 'Sharks and Oase'.

At that time I was spoilt with the selection of Colombian and Brazilian ladies who were blessed with amazing bubble butts!

Sadly with the new government work visa situation there are no longer any of these ladies.

If I were to travel to Colombia could anyone recommend any club or specific ladies who possess a heavenly bubble butt!!

Many thanks.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2620984]... What Fun Luvr said about being double charged with taxes, that would be a scam. Unless you stay beyond 90 days, there's no tax for foreigners. That's one reason why they need to keep a copy of your passport, so they don't have to pay the tax.[/QUOTE]I brought that up when I checked out, and the lady at checkout said the exemption is only for new buildings. I knew she was not correct, but not worth arguing about. It's just an example that they know they are scamming their guests.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2621384]The easier targets for them are the foreigners hand down because they are not locals, probably won't have a knife on them and will be more reluctant not to put up a fight, and are known to have more things of value on them in terms of cash and other items of value on them than the locals.
So put yourself in a muggers shoes. Two men of the same size are walking on a deserted street. One on one side of the street is local, and on the other side is an obvious foreigner. So you don't think that will factor into a muggers decision as to which one to jack up.
I'm not disagreeing with the premise that everyone is at risk whether a local or a foreigner, but just am saying that the smarter muggers will be selective if and when they have the opportunity.
For some guys in Centro who are obvious foreigners, they garner a lot of attention with the Chicas as they like the attention.
[/QUOTE]I would love to see some stats of crime against foreigners vs crime against locals, but I do not suspect foreigners are at more risk at all. Yes perhaps foreigners are less likely to carry knives than some locals, but what % of locals carry knives? I would guess not many. And there are a bunch of other factors that a would criminal will look for in an easy target. How many people are around, time of day, size (foreigners are usually much bigger), sex (females are weaker), age (old folk that are not so agile are easier). Plus I am sure there are many others. Maybe I will ask some the next tme I am in Manrique. Hehe. As for valuables. Foreigners have lots of cards and gandgets that criminals don't know how to use. They would much prefer to steal sutff they are familiar with.

Also worth noting that often times the criminals have a pre-planned hit. So it doesnt matter who is around. The hit goes ahead if they deem it passable.

Yes, I am one of those that wander around looking like a foreigner. There is no way I can hide it. I feel like a baskball player walkin g around Lilliput when I am in Colombia, so these days I just wear t-shirts, shorts and flip flops (but only when in Centro). Iget lots of looks, but most are from the public which is a good security factor!

[QUOTE=JustTK;2621360]Muggers look for easy targets. That's all there is to it. Being a foeigner or being local doesn't come in to their thinking.[/QUOTE]If robbers in any country only waited for foreigners then they would starve to death. Be on the lookout for 1 out of every 20,000 people that walk by and we will have our target.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2621393]Poor Jbee2 with all those Spanish courses he took at EAFIT and still can't get it right.

Yet everybody will understand exactly what he is saying whether he should of used an "a" or an "o" or should of left something out.

Oh, and you left out the "a" in Jamas which like Nunca means never, and I knew you weren't referring to a jam you spread on toast. LOL.

All kidding aside, I wish I had a better knowledge of the language, and grapple at times, like most of the time, but typically can get my point across. I struggle when people speak quickly, or have a an accent.

As an example, I remember being in Glasgow England and swore the people weren't speaking English but they were.[/QUOTE]I have a dirty trick I play on any Colombian who gets too critical of my Spanish. I punch in one English word into my phone and ask them to pronounce it. That word is "Heightened."

Although there's seldom any criticism or confusion and I'm talking with at least a few girls every day.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2621441]I would love to see some stats of crime against foreigners vs crime against locals, but I do not suspect foreigners are at more risk at all. Yes perhaps foreigners are less likely to carry knives than some locals, but what % of locals carry knives? I would guess not many. And there are a bunch of other factors that a would criminal will look for in an easy target. How many people are around, time of day, size (foreigners are usually much bigger), sex (females are weaker), age (old folk that are not so agile are easier). Plus I am sure there are many others. Maybe I will ask some the next tme I am in Manrique. Hehe. As for valuables. Foreigners have lots of cards and gandgets that criminals don't know how to use. They would much prefer to steal sutff they are familiar with.r![/QUOTE]Okay, I don't think we will ever see eye to eye on this topic as to whether foreigners are better targets for criminals than locals. Regardless, I have seen you in Centro on many occasions, and one day you walked right by me and didn't even recognize or remember me as we had met up in Santa Marta years ago, and I appreciate you showing me around there.

I know how good your Spanish is, way better than mine, so I propose to you the next time your in Centro, ask any of the girls you know if they carry knives, and you will find out lot's of them do, in fact some of the girls I go with have showed them to me. Makes you think twice about having an altercation with one of them.

Very common in Centro for people to carry knives.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2621450]If robbers in any country only waited for foreigners then they would starve to death. Be on the lookout for 1 out of every 20,000 people that walk by and we will have our target.[/QUOTE]Not in parts of poblado, there it's like shooting fish in a Barrel. And they know it.

I have a place set. Flights set. I'm looking forward to coming to town. I don't have any real plans. Some museums. Some women. Some clubs. I'll be staying in the Poblado area. I'm a little worried about find a SIM card and getting access to apps. I'm sure I'll figure it out. Anyhow, thanks for all the info you all have put into the board.

I am looking for some food spots. Must sees while in town. Some club ideas. Other than Gusto, which I plan on checking out.

My Spanish is decent.

Today I took a chica for agreed 30 k BBBJ and CFS.

She is always on the Street behind the church.

Nice body, but sad face.

But my negotiations went well so I took her.

First Red flag: one of her friends in the Clique whispered something in her ear.

Second Red flag: for the shitty room on the Street she demanded 10 k. She took something in her pocket here.

Absolutely Red flag. She demanded money upfront.

I should end here already, but was not sure if this could lead to problems. So I told her I pay later or we are finished here.

She agreed to money after the deed. But was not happy with that. It took me long to get an erection But somehow Managed it. She Was not doing the agreed BBBJ, because She was licking only the side of my shaft. Then she put the condom on, but I didn't said anything. Better CBJ than nothing.

Then I fucked her mish, but She looked not happy. I somehow finished, but only because I Was alcohol free today.

I took my clothes on and Then She demanded 40 k, because that is the norm She said.

I told here I don't give her 40 because we agreed to 30 with BBBJ and She did CBJ.

She Was getting aggressive and I thought its not Worth IT.

I don't want Problems here.

I gave here another 10 k and went.

Next Time I will negotiate money After the deed. And when any chica demands money upfront I will end the Session immediately.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2621457]Not in parts of poblado, there it's like shooting fish in a Barrel. And they know it.[/QUOTE]I always felt quite safe in Poblado staying near the Oviedo Mall, but I understand that crime in Colombia in general has gotten much, much worse since those times.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2621468]Today I took a chica for agreed 30 k BBBJ and CFS.

She is always on the Street behind the church.

Nice body, but sad face.

But my negotiations went well so I took her.

First Red flag: one of her friends in the Clique whispered something in her ear.

Second Red flag: for the shitty room on the Street she demanded 10 k. She took something in her pocket here.

Absolutely Red flag. She demanded money upfront.

I should end here already, but was not sure if this could lead to problems. So I told her I pay later or we are finished here.

She agreed to money after the deed. But was not happy with that. It took me long to get an erection But somehow Managed it. She Was not doing the agreed BBBJ, because She was licking only the side of my shaft. Then she put the condom on, but I didn't said anything. Better CBJ than nothing.

Then I fucked her mish, but She looked not happy. I somehow finished, but only because I Was alcohol free today.

I took my clothes on and Then She demanded 40 k, because that is the norm She said.

I told here I don't give her 40 because we agreed to 30 with BBBJ and She did CBJ..[/QUOTE]Smart move to just fork out the extra 10 K and leave without an incident. Contrary to what other posters may think, lots of the girls carry knives, and fighting over basically $ 3 USD is not worth it, albeit some posters may say you should of not caved in, however your at a disadvantage being a foreigner, especially in the cheaper Hotels which aren't frequented as much by foreigners, versus Hotels like the Premium Plaza or Zona Rosa which cost almost double on the Church side.

I am assuming it was a Colombian you pulled, versus a Venezuelan, who would be less likely to renege on what was agreed to.

As far as negotiating money after the deed, well that's the last thing you should be doing, as I guarantee you, you will be setting yourself for a mis-understanding.

I don't know what your Spanish speaking level is, but you should re-iterate before entering the Hotel that you always pay afterwards and not before, and make them confirm that along with what your going to pay, and whether the BJ is totally uncovered.

As far as the Hotel, it's best to always pay for the room versus them paying for it.

And you should be choosing the Hotel, instead of them directing where to go, as they invariably are getting a kickback.

If they refuse to go where you want to go, pass on them, another red flag.

I'm going to guess that your Spanish is good, and that you just happened to pull a piece of shit, it happens to all of us.

After I had the Bad number with the girl it starts to Rain heavy and I get somewhere inside and drank two natural juices.

After the Rain I talked to a girl which stands outside where I Was sitting all the Time, also yesterday. I asked if She would like to go to a room with me. She said no. Ups, sorry I was sure She was an hooker. I said perdon and went.

After the Rain the Area suddenly starts to get really RAW. I saw a Glue sinfer and a man walking around with his crack pipe.

It Was only about 5 pm and policia was still there.

I looked for another girl and suddenly a Junkie appeared on my side Talking to me all kinds of shit and not leaving me.

I told him a few times to leave but he didn't.

He told me he was guiding me and wants a tip for that. I then gave him two of my Fried cake balls I bought before and told him I don't want his guiding anymore.

He left but suddenly appeared again and started telling me he can get me all kinds of chica and drugs I wanted.

OK, I decided that's enough for today and walked to the Metro.

He was always walking by my side Talking all kinds of shit until the metro Stairs.

I come again tomorrow, but at noon. It Was always so peaceful and I have never seen Junkies there at that Time.

Chicas are less, but also other shady people.

Lesson learned, I prefer earlier.

But it Was not late, only about 5 pm.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2621453]

Very common in Centro for people to carry knives.[/QUOTE]I was doing a some recon of the streets in the Centro area before a trip a couple of years ago using Google Street maps when I came across this scene at Avenue Maracaibo (Calle 53) between Carrera 46 and Carrera 47 about 1/4 mile east of groud zero and close to Parque de Bolvar. I used Snipping Tool to clip these photos. I have posted these before. It appears to be two guys fighting over a jacket and one of the guys, the one on the right with the white t-shirt and camo pants, has a kitchen knife in his left hand.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2621496]Smart move to just fork out the extra 10 K and leave without an incident. Contrary to what other posters may think, lots of the girls carry knives, and fighting over basically $ 3 USD is not worth it, albeit some posters may say you should of not caved in, however your at a disadvantage being a foreigner, especially in the cheaper Hotels which aren't frequented as much by foreigners, versus Hotels like the Premium Plaza or Zona Rosa which cost almost double on the Church side.

I am assuming it was a Colombian you pulled, versus a Venezuelan, who would be less likely to renege on what was agreed to.

As far as negotiating money after the deed, well that's the last thing you should be doing, as I guarantee you, you will be setting yourself for a mis-understanding.

I don't know what your Spanish speaking level is, but you should re-iterate before entering the Hotel that you always pay afterwards and not before, and make them confirm that along with what your going to pay, and whether the BJ is totally uncovered.

As far as the Hotel, it's best to always pay for the room versus them paying for it..[/QUOTE]Thanks. My Spanish is ok. I can negotiate with them and understand them.

I don't know if She was Venezuelan or Colombian.

Tomorrow I will go in the noon and only do one chica and then leave the place.

No drinking beer there and staying longer, because I think I draw too much attention. Everyone Was seeing for a few days now the same gringo there hanging out and drinking beer and doing multiple chicas.

In the noon its quiet there. Many Shops still closed, but a few chica are already there.

I will choose the hotel on the opposite of the church and pay for it by myself with prepared 7 k.

[QUOTE=Perfectionist;2621429]Perhaps one of you seasoned mongers may be able to offer some advice!

I began frequenting FKK clubs in Germany back in 2013. More specifically 'Sharks and Oase'.

At that time I was spoilt with the selection of Colombian and Brazilian ladies who were blessed with amazing bubble butts!

Sadly with the new government work visa situation there are no longer any of these ladies.

If I were to travel to Colombia could anyone recommend any club or specific ladies who possess a heavenly bubble butt!!

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm sure there's a bubble but club somewhere. Wonder how that translates though.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2621468]Today I took a chica for agreed 30 k BBBJ and CFS.

She is always on the Street behind the church.

Nice body, but sad face.

But my negotiations went well so I took her.

First Red flag: one of her friends in the Clique whispered something in her ear.

Second Red flag: for the shitty room on the Street she demanded 10 k. She took something in her pocket here.

Absolutely Red flag. She demanded money upfront.

I should end here already, but was not sure if this could lead to problems. So I told her I pay later or we are finished here..[/QUOTE]Sad face should have been the first red flag. I don't deal with chicas with unpleasant looks on their faces. I like an inviting enthusiastic look.

[QUOTE=Perfectionist;2621429]Perhaps one of you seasoned mongers may be able to offer some advice!

I began frequenting FKK clubs in Germany back in 2013. More specifically 'Sharks and Oase'.

At that time I was spoilt with the selection of Colombian and Brazilian ladies who were blessed with amazing bubble butts!

Sadly with the new government work visa situation there are no longer any of these ladies.

If I were to travel to Colombia could anyone recommend any club or specific ladies who possess a heavenly bubble butt!!

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm not aware of a specific club or bar that specializes in whatever a bubble butt is. If your looking for women with big asses, really big asses, you should be going to Sosua in the DR. Girls there flought them, and quite honestly, some of their asses are so big, I wonder when a guy penetrates them in doggy, and his dick is not very long, whether it even makes it inside of the girls vagina.

So to steer you in the right direction in Colombia, your best bet is going to be where there are lots of women available, and whatever a bubble butt is to you, you will most probably find it on the streets perhaps in Bogota or Medellin. All shapes and sizes are to be had, so I'm sure you will find what your looking for if your recollection was that Colombian women had them. And also lots of Venezuelan women available as well, but I think the Colombians have them beat for cute butts.

I have a few spinners that have what I call "Bubble Gum Butts", and maybe that is what you were referring to, so small, the size of cantalopes, that you can cup them in each hand, what a turn on, and no problem penetrating them whatsoever!

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2621498]After

I come again tomorrow, but at noon. It Was always so peaceful and I have never seen Junkies there at that Time.

Chicas are less, but also other shady people.

Lesson learned, I prefer earlier.

But it Was not late, only about 5 pm.[/QUOTE]Don't get dismayed over what happened to you grasshopper! LOL.

Actually the best time to be in Centro is bewteen 4 and 6 PM as basically there is a shift change and the girls that work days are leaving at dark and girls that work evenings till around 8 PM are arriving.

As far as the guy that hassled you, well sometimes they can be a pain to deal with, and hard to shake loose but goes with the territory there so you just have to get used to it.

Lots of guys have problems in Centro for many reasons, yet you have no problem getting down and dirty in the cheap Love motels which most guys would cringe at, so just keep going and you will become more comfortable with what goes on there, along with how to better screen and vet the girls there, along with dealing with the "mendigos" beggars and others who might pester you.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2621453]I have seen you in Centro on many occasions, and one day you walked right by me and didn't even recognize or remember me as we had met up in Santa Marta years ago, and I appreciate you showing me around there.
[/QUOTE]Really? Oh sorry man. My apologies. Normally I am not on the look out for guys that I might recognise in El Centro. I have other things in my mind. Hehe. But please don't be a stranger if you see me again. We can have a beer together and do some street research to clear this up. Ha.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2621360]Agree with the first 2 comments. The strip of bars / clubs with Conejitas etc is fine in the day and night. Also worth noting that Mercado de La Playa is also quite a cool place at night. Plaza with about 20-30 restaurants and bars. And full of normal people. Its on La Playa - 10 min walk from Botero area. 5 k in a taxi.

As for passing as a local, we have had this discussion 100's of times and I think it is total garbage. Hehe. Every local will tell you a story of them being mugged in Centro. Its exactly the same risk to them. Muggers look for easy targets. That's all there is to it. Being a foeigner or being local doesn't come in to their thinking.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2621384]All due respect, but your not giving the Ladrones, Rateros, aka muggers enough credit. The easier targets for them are the foreigners hand down because they are not locals, probably won't have a knife on them and will be more reluctant not to put up a fight, and are known to have more things of value on them in terms of cash and other items of value on them than the locals.

So put yourself in a muggers shoes. Two men of the same size are walking on a deserted street. One on one side of the street is local, and on the other side is an obvious foreigner. So you don't think that will factor into a muggers decision as to which one to jack up.

I'm not disagreeing with the premise that everyone is at risk whether a local or a foreigner, but just am saying that the smarter muggers will be selective if and when they have the opportunity.

As far as passing as a local, well it does make a difference in many ways, especially in El Centro.

You have to ask yourself whether you would rather not stick out like a sore thumb with everyone checking you out and looking at you, versus nobody giving you a second look.

For some guys in Centro who are obvious foreigners, they garner a lot of attention with the Chicas as they like the attention.[/QUOTE]Lets stay on point boys, these punks always look for the easy target, these are pussies, they hunt the small, the weak of the bunch, the stray who looks lost, it does not matter if your Colombian or a gringo or from Mars.

I have no issues with staring these punks straight in the eyes and tell them "fuck you punk just try it, make my day" and they whimper away. I have spent the last 3 weeks on the coast including Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Rodadero, Cienaga and other cities and my attitude with them is if you want to try to fuck with me it will not end up well for you.

A few days back I was walking in centro Barranquilla, not so late at night, and 3 early 20's fucks costenos threw me some comments, I walk by them and stared each one down and they whimper away.

They don't know how to react when they are called on their shit, why? Because most Colombians and gringos don't like confrontation so these punks think that they can get away with this.

They know that when The Tall Man is around you going to keep your mouths shut, don't stare him down, don't disrespect him as he will get mideveil on your ass.

I wish more gringos would learn from my behavior so they will come to know that you don't mess with gringo.

Again they look for the timid, the easy, the lost stray of the bunch. They don't know how to act with a person who has confidence, walks with respect, and walks like "if you try fucking with this gringo" it is will not end well for you because I don't give a shit.

Some of you will have heartburn with my advice, don't care, you can and will continue with being disrespected as they will think that you are their bit*h, not the Tall Man.

I am from centro Los Angeles and let me tell you, I know if you take just a handful of the Black and Mexican homies from south centro Los Angeles and plant them in Botero Plaza these scummy fucks will learn what respect is as these homies, whom I respect, would make all these ladrones their bitches in a few days.

You don't fuck with the black and Mexican homies from south centro LA, I don't, they earned my respect in this regards. Many of you give the centro punks too much credit as if their some scary people, not me. Let me take you to south centro LA and these home boys are the real thing.

And not one Gringo can pass for a local, not one, the moment you walk into centro Medellin you look and walk and mannerisms are completely different and they instantly know that your a foreigner, instantly. You are instantly marked as a gringo from somewhere, instantly as within seconds so don't think that you can ever fit in or blend in. Like you have some kind of stealth powers, hehehehe.

Much love and respect for all, just not the ladrones.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2621694]Really? Oh sorry man. My apologies. Normally I am not on the look out for guys that I might recognise in El Centro. I have other things in my mind. Hehe. But please don't be a stranger if you see me again. We can have a beer together and do some street research to clear this up. Ha.[/QUOTE]I'm the one who owes you an apology, I should of said Hello, and stopped you.

I was sitting on the low wall with the fence around the corner of the Museum and you walked within five feet of me.

And since I pass as a Colombian looks wise when my mouth is shut, that's why you didn't recognize me, thinking I was a local, just one of the topics we can clear up. LOL.

I guess I was concerned I may have frightened you, being stopped by a local, hence I didn't want to scare you, although your height is intimidating. LOL.

And again, thanks for showing me around Santa Marta when I was there, and damm I wish my Spanish was as good as yours!

Beers on me!

[QUOTE=Perfectionist;2621429]Perhaps one of you seasoned mongers may be able to offer some advice!

I began frequenting FKK clubs in Germany back in 2013. More specifically 'Sharks and Oase'.

At that time I was spoilt with the selection of Colombian and Brazilian ladies who were blessed with amazing bubble butts!

Sadly with the new government work visa situation there are no longer any of these ladies.

If I were to travel to Colombia could anyone recommend any club or specific ladies who possess a heavenly bubble butt!!

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]I don't think you can paint Colombia and Brasil with the same brush here. Tho I have not been to Colombia I have a friend who sends me many pics and videos. The girls asses are nice for sure but what I would call normal.

The Brasileira Bunda (butt) however is a real phenomenon I have witnessed. Tiny waist and amazing full ass that is neither gym hardened nor fat. There is nothing like it worldwide IMO. I would say more than half the girls I've fucked in São Paulo have the Brasileira bunda. If this is what you seek go to Scandallo or the CLínicas of SP and you will find for sure!

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2621708]Lets stay on point boys, these punks always look for the easy target, these are pussies, they hunt the small, the weak of the bunch, the stray who looks lost, it does not matter if your Colombian or a gringo or from Mars.
They know that when The Tall Man is around you going to keep your mouths shut, don't stare him down, don't disrespect him as he will get mideveil on your ass.
Much love and respect for all, just not the ladrones.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Wow, your really full of piss and vinegar today, that's one helluva a rant, and although I don't agree with everything your saying, I wouldn't want to get a spanking from you. LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2621393]Oh, and you left out the "a" in Jamas which like Nunca means never, and I knew you weren't referring to a jam you spread on toast. LOL.[/QUOTE]That's the autocorrecting software, which we are not allowed to complain about. It takes out any letter with a tilde. So I edited it, and missed that. I also missed the ellipsis points around 'wait for it.' So that is definitely not a complaint about the software; it's a complaint about my editing skills.

The 'j' word is stronger than 'nunca' and would translate as never, ever, ever.

[QUOTE=Perfectionist;2621429]Perhaps one of you seasoned mongers may be able to offer some advice!

I began frequenting FKK clubs in Germany back in 2013. More specifically 'Sharks and Oase'.

At that time I was spoilt with the selection of Colombian and Brazilian ladies who were blessed with amazing bubble butts!

Sadly with the new government work visa situation there are no longer any of these ladies.

If I were to travel to Colombia could anyone recommend any club or specific ladies who possess a heavenly bubble butt!!

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]They are everywhere. When I was at a strip club in Dallas, a Caucasian woman asked me to guess where she is from. I asked her to turn around and looked at her ass and it was huge. I said, "Colombia" and she said I was right. Most whites in Colombia kind of have a white skin tone that is different than Brazil where so many are mixed but for the most part (that is why I did not say Brazil), the hard part is finding a woman with a small ass in these countries. In both countries I would say 70 to 80% of the women have big tight asses.

I will never forget the mannequin I saw in Medellin: small breasts, thin waist, big ass. And that is the model I saw for the women later. I do not like big asses but I prefer tight to flabby and these asses are tight.

[QUOTE=Jcgivesos;2621466]I have a place set. Flights set. I'm looking forward to coming to town. I don't have any real plans. Some museums. Some women. Some clubs. I'll be staying in the Poblado area. I'm a little worried about find a SIM card and getting access to apps. I'm sure I'll figure it out. Anyhow, thanks for all the info you all have put into the board.

I am looking for some food spots. Must sees while in town. Some club ideas. Other than Gusto, which I plan on checking out.

My Spanish is decent.[/QUOTE]If you use T mobile, the easiest thing to do is buy an International Pass for 5 days for $35. I think a month is $70, and you can just your own phone.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2620302]Idk if anyone has tried to go to casa Cuba lately, as the location on the map hasnt updated. So you see casa Cuba. On carr 47 calle 59. It moved.

So keep walking down calle 59 towards carr 48, take a left downhill on carr 48.

Carr 48 -58-64-- to the right of this building is a giant parking garage thing. Can't miss it walk in and go past the security, you will see an outdoor staircase to your left. Walk up, that is the new casa Cuba.

Simply the best, the best. Sebastian the bro who runs the place knows how to pick his girls. Always BBBJ and ymmv on DFK.

I've yet to see a gringo here but I've exhausted my presence at this casa LMAO so it's all yours.[/QUOTE]Do you mean those steps in the back?

Someone else asked for prices.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2621782]That's the autocorrecting software, which we are not allowed to complain about. It takes out any letter with a tilde. So I edited it, and missed that. I also missed the ellipsis points around 'wait for it.' So that is definitely not a complaint about the software; it's a complaint about my editing skills.

The 'j' word is stronger than 'nunca' and would translate as never, ever, ever.[/QUOTE]Yes exactly, and I knew that, and correct me if I'm wrong, but if you say, "no importa" it means I don't care, but if you say, "no me importa" its like saying I don't give a fuck!

Is that correct, professor? LOL.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2621579]I'm sure there's a bubble but club somewhere. Wonder how that translates though.[/QUOTE]Last week I was in Centro, walking down the side street by Verecruz Church. I saw this woman with the roundest arse I have ever seen. It fair took by breath away. She had on these plastic-look bright skin-tight pants, and she looked like she was hiding a couple of party balloons behind her back. It was so comical, she looked like she could have been auditioned for a pantomime or smthg. I'm not sure I would know what to do with something that large and round.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2621825]Yes exactly, and I knew that, and correct me if I'm wrong, but if you say, "no importa" it means I don't care, but if you say, "no me importa" its like saying I don't give a fuck!

Is that correct, professor? LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, but in the latter case, I prefer 'me importa carajo.'

I went to centro today about 12 pm and immediately found one near the beer drinking hall. She has dyed Orange hair and one Front teeth missing. She is small and skinny, that's how I like them.

A Little bit baby damage, but She is so skinny, its hard to notice. She is often there. I have seen her before already.

Everything went well with her. I can recommend her. She agreed for 30 k BBBJ and CFS.

In the room (7 k Real Botero) She sucked really long (unwashed) and I really enjoyed it.

She sucked until I said its enough and then I fucked her doggy and finished.

After that I took a taxi and went to a casa which a friend recommended. But it Was closed with to rent signs.

Then I asked the driver for a casa, but he said he only knows a place, which is dangerous for gringos.

We drove back to plaza Botero. I asked another taxi for a casa and he brings me 5 min away from plaza Botero.

But I didn't like the Atmosphere and the chicas there so I went.

IT started to Rain heavy outside and 5 Taxis did not want to take me to plaza Botero, but the sixth one took me and we drove back to plaza Botero.

I drank one beer until the Rain stops and then found an 18 year Old Colombiana on the Street with the Bars.

She had dyed blond hair and was heavily tattooed. She also agreed to 30 k BBBJ and CFS.

Again 7 k Real Botero.

Her body was nice and I liked her tattoos.

She seemed to be a bit high or drunken.

BBBJ Was nothing special. She was the First one who required me to shower before, which I did.

After the BBBJ I also fucked her in doggy and finished. Then showered again.

She had no Pressure to leave and we had a nice talk.

She said I'm her First customer from Alemania and asked me a few words in German.

Would definitely do her again and told her that.

She politely asked for a tip and I gave her 2 k.

Then besos and adios.

Then I drank one more beer and went to metro.

Are the chicas standing in the Metro entrance area also hookers? IT seems like they are, because they Look like and I think I saw also punters Talking to them.

Does someone knows something about the girls at the metro entrance parque berrio?

Tomorrow I have booked a tour / Trip so I don't know yet what will be possible with p4 p.

But my plan is to go centro again haha.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2621721]I don't think you can paint Colombia and Brasil with the same brush here. Tho I have not been to Colombia I have a friend who sends me many pics and videos. The girls asses are nice for sure but what I would call normal.

The Brasileira Bunda (butt) however is a real phenomenon I have witnessed. Tiny waist and amazing full ass that is neither gym hardened nor fat. There is nothing like it worldwide IMO. I would say more than half the girls I've fucked in So Paulo have the Brasileira bunda. If this is what you seek go to Scandallo or the CLnicas of SP and you will find for sure![/QUOTE]Thanks Steve.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2621708]Lets stay on point boys, these punks always look for the easy target, these are pussies, they hunt the small, the weak of the bunch, the stray who looks lost, it does not matter if your Colombian or a gringo or from Mars.

I have no issues with staring these punks straight in the eyes and tell them "fuck you punk just try it, make my day" and they whimper away. I have spent the last 3 weeks on the coast including Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Rodadero, Cienaga and other cities and my attitude with them is if you want to try to fuck with me it will not end up well for you.

A few days back I was walking in centro Barranquilla, not so late at night, and 3 early 20's fucks costenos threw me some comments, I walk by them and stared each one down and they whimper away.

They don't know how to react when they are called on their shit, why? Because most Colombians and gringos don't like confrontation so these punks think that they can get away with this.

They know that when The Tall Man is around you going to keep your mouths shut, don't stare him down, don't disrespect him as he will get mideveil on your ass.

I wish more gringos would learn from my behavior so they will come to know that you don't mess with gringo.

Again they look for the timid, the easy, the lost stray of the bunch. They don't know how to act with a person who has confidence, walks with respect, and walks like "if you try fucking with this gringo" it is will not end well for you because I don't give a shit.

Some of you will have heartburn with my advice, don't care, you can and will continue with being disrespected as they will think that you are their bit*h, not the Tall Man.

I am from centro Los Angeles and let me tell you, I know if you take just a handful of the Black and Mexican homies from south centro Los Angeles and plant them in Botero Plaza these scummy fucks will learn what respect is as these homies, whom I respect, would make all these ladrones their bitches in a few days.

You don't fuck with the black and Mexican homies from south centro LA, I don't, they earned my respect in this regards. Many of you give the centro punks too much credit as if their some scary people, not me. Let me take you to south centro LA and these home boys are the real thing.

And not one Gringo can pass for a local, not one, the moment you walk into centro Medellin you look and walk and mannerisms are completely different and they instantly know that your a foreigner, instantly. You are instantly marked as a gringo from somewhere, instantly as within seconds so don't think that you can ever fit in or blend in. Like you have some kind of stealth powers, hehehehe.

Much love and respect for all, just not the ladrones.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Your way of handling the punks of el centro is great. Until it isn't. Especially when dealing with multiple punks. If one or more of them has a knife and is willing to use it you might end up dead. How do you plan on defending yourself if and when one of these punks pulls out a gun and shoots your ass? I will certainly agree that MOST of these punks are pussys but not all of them are. There is a member on here and his name escapes me that was attacked and was stabbed when he decided to fight rather than give them what they wanted and he is a very very big rugged dude. One other point, not everyone has the physical attributes to be a tough guy and some of us value their lives more than their $1000. Iphone, I fall into both of those categories, so I pick my fights carefully. I got into two fights in Sosua last year but I knew both of those assholes weren't carrying a weapon. You don't have that luxury when dealing with street punks. Just my two centavos.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2621910]How do you plan on defending yourself if and when one of these punks pulls out a gun and shoots your ass? Just my two centavos.[/QUOTE]I don't think that's likely to happen. Tourists are not allowed to bring asses in to the country. There are quarantine rules. I guess you could buy one, but I have only seen horses here, and no asses. Hehe.

BTW. Are you a Romeo Santos fan?

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2621579]I'm sure there's a bubble but club somewhere. Wonder how that translates though.[/QUOTE]Nalgas respingadas / respingonas / paraditas.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2621708]Lets stay on point boys, these punks always look for the easy target, these are pussies, they hunt the small, the weak of the bunch, the stray who looks lost, it does not matter if your Colombian or a gringo or from Mars.

I have no issues with staring these punks straight in the eyes and tell them "fuck you punk just try it, make my day" and they whimper away. I have spent the last 3 weeks on the coast including Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Rodadero, Cienaga and other cities and my attitude with them is if you want to try to fuck with me it will not end up well for you.[/QUOTE]Dude how do you have so many problems with so many people? I go all around in all kinds of shady places and never have the least bit of problems with anybody. I would not even know what punks I am supposed to be staring in the eyes. All I see around me from Santa Fe to Vila Mimosa are other normal ass people (maybe some homeless and drug addicts mixed in), not someone scoping out prey. I have never had the feeling that someone was out to rob me or harm me. Maybe they look at me from the shadows and say don't mess with that guy; he is only here for the pussy.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2621910]How do you plan on defending yourself if and when one of these punks pulls out a gun and shoots your ass?[/quote]My uncle was a bad ass black belt. I asked him what do you do if someone has a gun. He said turn around and run like hell.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2621708]Lets stay on point boys, these punks always look for the easy target, these are pussies, they hunt the small, the weak of the bunch, the stray who looks lost, it does not matter if your Colombian or a gringo or from Mars.

I have no issues with staring these punks straight in the eyes and tell them "fuck you punk just try it, make my day" and they whimper away. I have spent the last 3 weeks on the coast including Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Rodadero, Cienaga and other cities and my attitude with them is if you want to try to fuck with me it will not end up well for you.

A few days back I was walking in centro Barranquilla, not so late at night, and 3 early 20's fucks costenos threw me some comments, I walk by them and stared each one down and they whimper away.

They don't know how to react when they are called on their shit, why? Because most Colombians and gringos don't like confrontation so these punks think that they can get away with this..[/QUOTE]Much of your analysis I'm in complete agreement with, but I disagree with much of your recommendations.

I've written here several times about how to carry yourself. Walk with confidence and purpose. Always look like you know where you're going. Uncertainty and confusion are going to mark you as a target.

I also believe you are unlikely to pass as a native. However, you can look as if you belong in the area. While nobody will think you're a Colombian, you can become part of the landscape.

Most of the ladrones are scared punks. That's why confidence and purpose help to protect you. However their fear makes them dangerous. If they're pointing a gun anything which scares them can cause that trigger finger to squeeze. Once that happens it doesn't matter how bad you think you are. Bullets aren't easy to intimidate.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2621150]After one month of searching, I have 50 girls as Friend. They are all clearly pro or semi-pro.

Now, when I talk to a SW, I'm comfortable asking "how much" or proposing my amount, but this is my first time with FB girls. How to ask them on Messenger "how much". I don't want to be banned from FB, or simply appear unnecessarily rude with them.

P.S. Next Saturday I'll be in Medellin testing all the great things I have learnt from this community.[/QUOTE]Did you just go on FB and started adding random chicks you thought were hot from Medellin?

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2621152]They lick butt too.[/QUOTE]And that's how you get ass warts LOL.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2621358]

I need a car: 'Necesito coche.' Not 'necesito un coche.'

I like dogs: 'Me gustan [B]los[/B] perros.' Not 'me gustan perros.'[/QUOTE]Interesting. Duolingo teaches "necesito un carro / coche" for I need a car.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2621888]

Everything went well with her. I can recommend her. She agreed for 30 k BBBJ and CFS.
[/QUOTE]You telling me they're sucking and fucking you for $7.90 US? That's cheaper than a mcdonalds meal LOL.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2622015]Interesting. Duolingo teaches "necesito un carro / coche" for I need a car.[/QUOTE]Nope. You only use the indefinite article if the noun is modified by an adjective. 'Necesito coche' = I need [B]a[/B] car. But 'necesito [B]un[/B] coche diferente' = I need [B]a[/B] different car. Also note the difference between 'necesito un nuevo coche' and 'necesito un coche nuevo. ' In the first case, you are just saying you need a different car, one that is new to you. In the second case, you are saying you need a brand new car.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2621888]Are the chicas standing in the Metro entrance area also hookers? IT seems like they are, because they Look like and I think I saw also punters Talking to them.

Does someone knows something about the girls at the metro entrance parque berrio?.[/QUOTE]Yes they are hookers, and their angle is to hopefully snag a guy before they walk a block to ground zero.

And there are some pretty ones on the steps leading up to the Metro.

And for your next questions that will be coming.

Yes, lots of the girls selling coffee are available, not to mention all of the girls selling candy.

Your now getting below the tip of the iceberg as to what is to be had in Centro.

I am in Medellin and looking to buy generic Viagra and Cialis. Could someone please suggest what brand generic should I ask for? I am sure there are fake ones which I got before and disappointed me at right time. Just do not want to go through same failure at right time. TIA.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2622032]You telling me they're sucking and fucking you for $7.90 US? That's cheaper than a mcdonalds meal LOL.[/QUOTE]Not in Colombia. Double Big Mac combo is 24 k. So the girl can earn her 30 k, then have lunch at McDs and still have change for a bus home.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2622142]Not in Colombia. Double Big Mac combo is 24 k. So the girl can earn her 30 k, then have lunch at McDs and still have change for a bus home.[/QUOTE]This is the heart of the problem, when guy's find out how cheap it is to get fucked and sucked in Medellin at 30 K, plus 7 K for the room, for a total of 37 K, which is less than $ 10 USD they find it hard to believe.

Even when the Pandemic ends, or when SEA fully opens back up, a lot of guys who have come here recently for the first time won't be in such a hurry to go back to SEA.

Instead of what used to be primarily gringo's coming to MDE prior to the Pandemic, we now have a lot of guys coming from Europe besides all the SEA guys from around the World.

Fortunately there's been a steady stream of Venezuelans so supply has been high to offset the increased demand. Centro has literally been taken over by the Venezuelans and most Colombians despise them.

I can remember when there were no Venezuelans, and have watched the changes over the years.

Probably the very best and cheapest mongering to be had in Medellin was in the earlier part of the year upon the re-opening of the Country.

So many new Venezuelans had arrived, with no newbie Colombian mongers, so supply was high, and the locals and few foreigners around where having a field day.

The landscape has changed, yet Centro still is, and will always be primarily a locals mongering venue, versus a foreigners mongering destination like Sosua.

A bygone era I suppose, but change is inevitable, in this case not for the good in my opinion, but it is what it is.

[QUOTE=ElPostino;2622125]I am in Medellin and looking to buy generic Viagra and Cialis. Could someone please suggest what brand generic should I ask for? I am sure there are fake ones which I got before and disappointed me at right time. Just do not want to go through same failure at right time. TIA.[/QUOTE]I asnwered this a coupla days ago -.

"Not sure, but you can buy 2 pills of Sildenafil 100 MG for 7. 500 from pharmacies in El Centro. It works just as well for me, and a fraction of the price. I only use half each time. ".

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2622159]This is the heart of the problem, when guy's find out how cheap it is to get fucked and sucked in Medellin at 30 K, plus 7 K for the room, for a total of 37 K, which is less than $ 10 USD they find it hard to believe.[/QUOTE]Its actually no different in Ecuador or Panama. It just shows attitude to sex, I believe. Sex is natural and easy and no big deal in many cultures. So why should it cost an arm and a leg just bcos it is a taboo subject or used as a leverage tool in other cultures?!

[QUOTE=ElPostino;2622125]I am in Medellin and looking to buy generic Viagra and Cialis. Could someone please suggest what brand generic should I ask for? I am sure there are fake ones which I got before and disappointed me at right time. Just do not want to go through same failure at right time. TIA.[/QUOTE]I have used Genfar and Vigradina sildenafilo (generic Viagra). They both work for me, but I think the Vigradina works better. Cialia has bad side effects on me.

[QUOTE=ElPostino;2622125]I am in Medellin and looking to buy generic Viagra and Cialis. Could someone please suggest what brand generic should I ask for? I am sure there are fake ones which I got before and disappointed me at right time. Just do not want to go through same failure at right time. TIA.[/QUOTE]Go for Genfar or MK and you will never be wrong. Two major pharma industries of Colombia. Other smaller brands... no idea, but if I buy a drug I must be sure of the quality, that is the actual dosage and excipients.

Where is this New Life place? The address given on Google is not the correct address, Carrea 49 53-21, that address does not exist. Any photos or a real address will help big time. Is the place even really called New Life??

[QUOTE=Jcgivesos;2621466]I have a place set. Flights set. I'm looking forward to coming to town. I don't have any real plans. Some museums. Some women. Some clubs. I'll be staying in the Poblado area. I'm a little worried about find a SIM card and getting access to apps. I'm sure I'll figure it out. Anyhow, thanks for all the info you all have put into the board.

I am looking for some food spots. Must sees while in town. Some club ideas. Other than Gusto, which I plan on checking out.

My Spanish is decent.[/QUOTE]I learned last time that not all Claro stores can set you up with a new SIM card, but the one in Santa fe mall was able to.

[QUOTE=ChrisH;2622233]Where is this New Life place? The address given on Google is not the correct address, Carrea 49 53-21, that address does not exist. Any photos or a real address will help big time. Is the place even really called New Life??[/QUOTE]You needed to scroll down a little more. There's also a warehouse called New Life.

Calle 56 (Bolivia) # 43-39, bright blue door.

[QUOTE=ChrisH;2622233]Where is this New Life place? The address given on Google is not the correct address, Carrea 49 53-21, that address does not exist. Any photos or a real address will help big time. Is the place even really called New Life??[/QUOTE]It's Calle 56-43-39.

Was behind the blue door last time I was there.

[QUOTE=ChrisH;2622233]Where is this New Life place? The address given on Google is not the correct address, Carrea 49 53-21, that address does not exist. Any photos or a real address will help big time. Is the place even really called New Life??[/QUOTE]Calle 56 43-39, it's in the maps section Medellin.

After November 16, the government may require travelers and citizens to have the vaccination card for face-to-face events, bars, cinemas, churches, amusement parks, and discos.

Is this old news for you guys with boots on the ground there? I have not been following the thread diligently. The article definitely states this applies to everyone but goes into some details regarding international visitors to Medellin.

"For international travelers and Colombians vaccinated overseas, the President said, "The card that the person has can be verified and can be included in the electronic system. We urge them to regularize their situation by asking IPS to certify their vaccine so that they have their electronic card ".

Therefore, overseas travelers may require electronic proof of their vaccination to enter many indoor and outdoor activities in Colombia.

I personaly do not know what "IPS" is.

[URL]https://aldianews.com/articles/culture/health/colombia-and-other-countries-require-mandatory-vaccination-cards/67792[/URL]

[URL]https://www.traveloffpath.com/colombia-launching-mandatory-vaccine-passport-for-all-public-areas/[/URL]

I am not sure. A majority of Colombian girls there have moved to Poblado already. Most of the girls are Venezuelans.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2622159]This is the heart of the problem, when guy's find out how cheap it is to get fucked and sucked in Medellin at 30 K, plus 7 K for the room, for a total of 37 K, which is less than $ 10 USD they find it hard to believe.

Even when the Pandemic ends, or when SEA fully opens back up, a lot of guys who have come here recently for the first time won't be in such a hurry to go back to SEA.

Instead of what used to be primarily gringo's coming to MDE prior to the Pandemic, we now have a lot of guys coming from Europe besides all the SEA guys from around the World.

Fortunately there's been a steady stream of Venezuelans so supply has been high to offset the increased demand. Centro has literally been taken over by the Venezuelans and most Colombians despise them.

I can remember when there were no Venezuelans, and have watched the changes over the years.

Probably the very best and cheapest mongering to be had in Medellin was in the earlier part of the year upon the re-opening of the Country.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2622273]After November 16, the government may require travelers and citizens to have the vaccination card for face-to-face events, bars, cinemas, churches, amusement parks, and discos.
[/QUOTE]Wow, that is the first I have heard of it. Will be glad to be leaving if that comes in. Though I really doubt they could or would enforce it in most places. And I expect there would be big protests and more deaths.

Doesn't really makes sense to me either, since the virus is already well under control here. Seems nothing else is needed. But then, nothing makes much sense to me anymore. I will be glad to be checking out of this world soon. Hehe.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2622142]Not in Colombia. Double Big Mac combo is 24 k. So the girl can earn her 30 k, then have lunch at McDs and still have change for a bus home.[/QUOTE]True. Things are generally very cheap in Colombia, but not at McDonalds. I don't understand how McDonalds always seems to have a crowd given how expensive it is for Colombians.

Today After my Pablo Tour (its not Worth it, I'm a few years too late) I took one from the metro Stairs at Parque berrio.

19 year Old Colombian with big natural boobs.

30 k BBBJ CFS.

BJ Was soso. But her big boobs with long nipples were beautiful.

Fucked her in mish and finished playing with her boobs.

I asked for a picture from her nice boobs.

I offered 5 k but She wanted 10 k tip.

End of the Session without Foto.

Later I fucked the one with Orange dyed hair which I fucked a few days ago and again Everything fine for 30 k.

Today I Was in centro until 7 pm and it was nice.

Tomorrow After my next Tour I come again.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2622273]After November 16, the government may require travelers and citizens to have the vaccination card for face-to-face events, bars, cinemas, churches, amusement parks, and discos.

Is this old news for you guys with boots on the ground there? I have not been following the thread diligently. The article definitely states this applies to everyone but goes into some details regarding international visitors to Medellin.

"For international travelers and Colombians vaccinated overseas, the President said, "The card that the person has can be verified and can be included in the electronic system. We urge them to regularize their situation by asking IPS to certify their vaccine so that they have their electronic card ".

Therefore, overseas travelers may require electronic proof of their vaccination to enter many indoor and outdoor activities in Colombia.

I personaly do not know what "IPS" is.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's going to be an issue for vaccinated foreign travellers, as I believe a copy of your Passport and vaccination card will suffice for entry.

I am curious how the Colombian government is going to be able to electronically verify foreigners being vaccinated until there is a system put in place by WHO, like for the Yellow Fever Shot worldwide.

I'm sure it's on the horizon.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2622065]Nope. You only use the indefinite article if the noun is modified by an adjective...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Spanish lesson!

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2622310]Today After my Pablo Tour (its not Worth it, I'm a few years too late) I took one from the metro Stairs at Parque berrio.

19 year Old Colombian with big natural boobs.

30 k BBBJ CFS.

BJ Was soso. But her big boobs with long nipples were beautiful.

Fucked her in mish and finished playing with her boobs.

I asked for a picture from her nice boobs.

I offered 5 k but She wanted 10 k tip.

End of the Session without Foto..[/QUOTE]Seems like you like the dyed hair girls, maybe a repeat with the red dyed hair one is in order with a cream pie finish! LOL.

Now that you have done a Metro Station stairwell girl, it's time to broaden your horizons!

Start checking out all the girls selling coffee. Lots will go arriba, If you see one you like, buy a coffee from her.

Chit chat with her, ask her if she offers anything else besides coffee. Some of these girls are lucky to make 20 K for a days work, but if offered 30 K for an hours work some will jump on it.

But not all of them will, so you have to finesse how you bring things up as to not offend them.

If done properly, they won't take your advances as though you assumed they were a hoe.

And after you've done a coffee girl, will move on to the candy girls. LOL.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2622273]After November 16, the government may require travelers and citizens to have the vaccination card for face-to-face events, bars, cinemas, churches, amusement parks, and discos.

Is this old news for you guys with boots on the ground there? I have not been following the thread diligently. The article definitely states this applies to everyone but goes into some details regarding international visitors to Medellin.

"For international travelers and Colombians vaccinated overseas, the President said, "The card that the person has can be verified and can be included in the electronic system. We urge them to regularize their situation by asking IPS to certify their vaccine so that they have their electronic card ".

Therefore, overseas travelers may require electronic proof of their vaccination to enter many indoor and outdoor activities in Colombia.

I personaly do not know what "IPS" is.[/QUOTE]This isn't just for Medellin but the whole country. How are you guys going to deal with it?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2622273]After November 16, the government may require travelers and citizens to have the vaccination card for face-to-face events, bars, cinemas, churches, amusement parks, and discos.

Is this old news for you guys with boots on the ground there? I have not been following the thread diligently. The article definitely states this applies to everyone but goes into some details regarding international visitors to Medellin.

"For international travelers and Colombians vaccinated overseas, the President said, "The card that the person has can be verified and can be included in the electronic system. We urge them to regularize their situation by asking IPS to certify their vaccine so that they have their electronic card ".

Therefore, overseas travelers may require electronic proof of their vaccination to enter many indoor and outdoor activities in Colombia.

I personaly do not know what "IPS" is.

[URL]https://aldianews.com/articles/culture/health/colombia-and-other-countries-require-mandatory-vaccination-cards/67792[/URL]

[URL]https://www.traveloffpath.com/colombia-launching-mandatory-vaccine-passport-for-all-public-areas/[/URL][/QUOTE]Just hilarious, not going to bring up the obvious overreach of government when covid is basically non existent in Colombia right now as that's for the stupid shit thread, but I look forward to buying a knock off vaxx card in prado.

I'm assuming the only place it'll be enforced are paces like hooters in poblado LOL.

Centro again today but not early enough for girls to be drinking, so I stayed more by the entrance / in front of the museum. Snagged a candy girl, but she was the opposite of charming. Been here a month from vennie. I think she was on glue, not sure. 19 yo skinny with fat ass ok face.

She begged for 2 k to buy a drink, I said ill give you a lot more than that for a rato, she said 40 k, I laughed, I said 30 k and I pay room, tip if good service. In the room total GFE, legs wrapped around in mish, the works.

Gave her 5 k after, as getting a nut with the first girl is always impressive.

As surfer states frequently, the pros are getting very seasoned. Saw probably 8 gringos in 2 hours, one of the girls behind the church was like "no hago besos, todo con preservativo" . Fuck outtta here with all these rules hhahaha.

For centro the MO right now are girls who have been drinking / candy coffee girls. The pros along the walkway and behind the church are all business now with the influx of foreigners.

[QUOTE=Combo;2622295]True. Things are generally very cheap in Colombia, but not at McDonalds. I don't understand how McDonalds always seems to have a crowd given how expensive it is for Colombians.[/QUOTE]The same way there were huge crowds at Starbucks when they first opened in Colombia.

I remember when the first IlIn-and-Out burger place opened in San Diego, in LA Mesa. The line of cars stretched for 2 blocks.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2622142]Not in Colombia. Double Big Mac combo is 24 k. So the girl can earn her 30 k, then have lunch at McDs and still have change for a bus home.[/QUOTE]Lmao they're getting good deals then.

Carrera 58-64 is a market. So please check the address again. I would say 58-68?

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2620302]Idk if anyone has tried to go to casa Cuba lately, as the location on the map hasn't updated. So you see casa Cuba. On carr 47 calle 59. It moved.

So keep walking down calle 59 towards carr 48, take a left downhill on carr 48.

Carr 48 -58-64-- to the right of this building is a giant parking garage thing. Can't miss it walk in and go past the security, you will see an outdoor staircase to your left. Walk up, that is the new casa Cuba.

Simply the best, the best. Sebastian the bro who runs the place knows how to pick his girls. Always BBBJ and ymmv on DFK.

I've yet to see a gringo here but I've exhausted my presence at this casa LMAO so it's all yours.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SodomizeHer;2621810]Do you mean those steps in the back?

Someone else asked for prices.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Yes I mean to the right of this address.: carr 48-#58-64 It is inside this picture provided by sodomizerher lol, you go in the parking garage and pass the security booth and the stairs are to the left.

45 k 30 min 70 k HR.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2622504]Carrera 58-64 is a market. So please check the address again. I would say 58-68?[/QUOTE]Are you sure you understand the address? "Carrera 58-64" - is not what he wrote.

[QUOTE=ElPostino;2622125]I am in Medellin and looking to buy generic Viagra and Cialis. Could someone please suggest what brand generic should I ask for? I am sure there are fake ones which I got before and disappointed me at right time. Just do not want to go through same failure at right time. TIA.[/QUOTE]You can buy these pills on Rappi. The pharmacies on Rappi are the most reputable and the brands they sell are legit. You can use Rappi to check the prices and go buy at the store too if you like.

*not sure if it is against the rules to review chicas, remove if so LOL.

Right in front of plaza san ignacio, too lazy to go to check the map but it's on the same calle as the tranvia.

I recently said it was a bottom tier casa based on past experiences, but I went with all 11-12 girls this week so I figured ID save the mongers some time. Pretty good place worth checking out.

Mamasan (not sure male version of word?) is a bro. Totally chill guy.

Facilities are good, big rooms, but cold shower, good lobby area with sports on tv and beer.

If you want a slim paisa: isabella or valeria. Both very GFE and classic paisa look, cute, skinny and nice ass.

If you want a thick paisa: vanessa. Like 5 ft 130 but not fat, curvy. Tight, great GFE but asked for propina at the end, a turn off. . (tightest girl).

Black girl: helen. Slim figure and very tight. GFE and pleasant girl. She's costea I think.

Venny: dulce. Tan thick girl, tight with good curves. Cute face. Pleasant.

Only bad experience was karen, black hair skinny paisa, maybe chemistry was off not sure but felt cold and she took my hand off her pussy during foreplay. Mood killer. Couldn't finish.

rest of girls weren't memorable, particulary good or bad.

50 k 30 min 80 k hour.

Cuba and Zandalay are still top tier (get to zandalay early as there are lots of customers there.).

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2622352]For centro the MO right now are girls who have been drinking / candy coffee girls. The pros along the walkway and behind the church are all business now with the influx of foreigners.[/QUOTE]You left out two other categories of girls that guy's might consider trying, but perhaps only the seasoned street rats will.

The first category are the girls that get high on weed, and given their altered state, can be okay, and I've done some.

Another category, which I tried many years ago, are the glue sniffers.

Typically they have a stench to them, similar to a heavy smoker, but instead of nicotine, it's pegamente and stinks and the odor seethes thru their pores, especially those that inhale constantly.

For the new members on this board, they are called Sacaleros, and typically they have little black bags which they squeeze the glue into and inhale. You can't miss them.

About five years ago they had a specific area at ground zero they would hang at, and this was before the Venezuelans arrived, and the area was along side the Museum in the walkway to the backside street. This used to be called "Sacalero Row", and there were some hotties there. And I did a few, as I couldn't resist trying them, but no more. I hope I don't loose any of my whiskers for not partaking in them recently.

Most of them are very thin / skinny, versus fat, and given that there brains are fried, and they are like zombies, they will do anything because they are so out of it.

I don't recommend guys do them, but a friend of mine did one recently, said there was no stench to her, supposedly because she was a part time sniffer, and anything went with her.

It's what it's.

[URL]https://www.noticiasrcn.com/colombia/balacera-en-medellin-video-del-enfrentamiento-entre-hombres-y-policia-393171?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Instagram%23Echobox%3D1636059247[/URL]

[QUOTE=Combo;2622295]True. Things are generally very cheap in Colombia, but not at McDonalds. I don't understand how McDonalds always seems to have a crowd given how expensive it is for Colombians.[/QUOTE]Seemed pretty cheap to me. 8,900 cop for chicken, rice & beans, French fries, salad and drink not too bad.

I have done a lot of research finding guest friendly accommodations for an over two month stay in Medellin. I wanted to get away from San Peters or anything too close to there because of the noise and I wanted to be able to host three girls should things work out. I also wanted to stay in both El Poblado and Laureles. Here are some of my findings, some of which will have to be verified once I am there at the very end of December.

[URL]Booking.com[/URL] is a good resource to find guest friendly hotels and sometimes apartments. This is because you they show questions from people wanting to book the hotel and the hotel's answer. So, in hotels near Parque Lleras you see many questions if the hotel is visitor friendly and from that learn their policy, or at least, what it was at the time of the question. Bookings apartment selection is very limited compared to Airbnb, a bit more expensive, and for only 30 days, but. Most are fully refundable even if cancelled a week before the booking and they also have some accommodations that are not on Airbnb. I used them for my Rio trip a few years ago and thought I had a good value. There is also some overlap between airbnb and Booking so I have been able to use that to determine an Airbnb was not visitor friendly without having to question the host. With Airbnb besides the house rules be sure to read the descriptions for sometimes in there and not in the rules they will indicated if they are visitor friendly or not. If you find a visitor friendly place but it's not suitable, click on the host name and see what else they have which might work.

Now, as for apartments in the Parque Lleras area you will note that the visitor friendly market seems be dominated by two companies, Liv Realty and Problado Rentals. There are also some other large players, but they tend not to be as guest friendly.

Liv Realty apartments tends to be a bit away from the noise, nicely decorated (they claim to be professionally decorated, and I believe them), and reasonably priced. , if barely. All have fast internet, large flat screens. And mostly all good reviews. They currently have 104 listing on Airbnb all over Medellin. I chose one in El Problado on Carrera 43 between Calle 10 and 10 A. There will be some street noise but no bars or discos close by, and no complaints about noise from reviews.

Now, Poblado Rentals is a whole different matter. They cater to the party crowd. Their apartments mostly look the same. While they actually have some nicer ones, most are, well, for me for some unknown reason, the phase "Post Stalin Reconstruction" pops into my brain when I look at the decorations. They tend to in dark brown walls, tasteless bad art, black heavy furniture, and weird shaped coffee tables. I suspect that the furniture is an example of form follows function for the function is to survive heavy, drunk, partying gringos with girls and doing drugs in the early morning hours next to yet more gringos, drunk, drugged. Etc and the evitable interactions between the two. They almost all have hot tubs and most of the time, the hot tubs don't really fit that well into the place.

The issue with Poblado Rentals is that most are near loud areas without sound proofing near as I can tell. They also allow their guests to party all night and if you are next to them in the building well good luck getting to sleep and they are not noted for having thick walls. Last, myself and as noted in these forums by other ISG members and on the reviews, interaction with the management of these apartments can be at times. Unpleasant. My experience with them, even when I found some suitable apartments, was such to never rent from them. They are also I believe are deceptive. With Liv Realty, they list all their apartments they manage on Airbnb. Poblado Rentals has many apartments on Airbnb, maybe all but they are using different hosts names and sometimes it's hard on some of the nicer apartments, to determine if it is Poblado Rentals or not at first glance. I think they do this so they can have the same apartment on Bookings, Airbnd, Vrbo, etc. You can go to their website Poblado Rentals to see what they manage and use that to determine if is one of theirs or not. Their reviews are more mixed than Liv, but overall, if you know what you are getting into, then probably they will fine.

One thing I have noted is that Liv apartments are heavily booked while El Poblado not nearly so much. Indeed I waited too long and twice was not able to book my first choice with Liv after waiting just a few hours too long. One trick I learned was on Airbnb, you can click on the host name, see all apartments they have without specific dates so you can check each apartment and in my case, rented one for 8 days and another for 55 days and in this way, have nice visitor friendly rental from Liv all during my stay.

Here are some other visitor friendly accommodations confirmed via asking the host about visitor access but you should check yourself. All are I believe in more or less family type buildings, so if you are going to party and / or have lots of girls coming and going please don't choose these and ruin it for the rest of us, more discrete mongers. Some of the hosts have more than one rental, so that might also be used to find visitor friendly accommodations.

El Poblado:

"Great Apartment For Digital Nomads" Hosted by Angie. [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/52547620?location=medelin&translate_ugc=false&federated_search_id=721c4e07-2c87-4170-9678-252dd944f11c&source_impression_id=p3_1636147464_vLhuau0dEgqnGNPc&guests=1&adults=1:text=Great%20Apartment%20For%20Digital%20Nomads[/URL]".

Laureles:

Apartamento con jacuzzi Laureles 1 Hosted by Mario: [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/52979171?source_impression_id=p3_1636147553_aaM1lKVKlYXmvcXw&guests=1&adults=1[/URL].

Seven levels Hosted by Ingris [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/52979171?source_impression_id=p3_1636147553_aaM1lKVKlYXmvcXw&guests=1&adults=1[/URL].

Make sure you read the description and house rules. .

Incredible 2 bed apt with nice views laureles Hosted by Juliana [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/42071154?source_impression_id=p3_1636147802_dmkvaFH8GcEajAWy&guests=1&adults=1[/URL].

Maybe some of the best views, top floor with East and West balconies but uncomfortable furniture.

I hope you find the above information helpful. All is reasonably accurate I believe at this time.

CageMonkey.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2622566]You left out two other categories of girls that guy's might consider trying, but perhaps only the seasoned street rats will.

The first category are the girls that get high on weed, and given their altered state, can be okay, and I've done some.

Another category, which I tried many years ago, are the glue sniffers.

Typically they have a stench to them, similar to a heavy smoker, but instead of nicotine, it's pegamente and stinks and the odor seethes thru their pores, especially those that inhale constantly.

For the new members on this board, they are called Sacaleros, and typically they have little black bags which they squeeze the glue into and inhale. You can't miss them.

About five years ago they had a specific area at ground zero they would hang at, and this was before the Venezuelans arrived, and the area was along side the Museum in the walkway to the backside street. This used to be called "Sacalero Row", and there were some hotties there. And I did a few, as I couldn't resist trying them, but no more. I hope I don't loose any of my whiskers for not partaking in them recently.

Most of them are very thin / skinny, versus fat, and given that there brains are fried, and they are like zombies, they will do anything because they are so out of it..[/QUOTE]It's been awhile, but I used to see them on the south and east sides of the big parking lot across the street from the museum.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2622565]Mamasan (not sure male version of word?) is a bro. Totally chill guy.[/QUOTE]Papasan is the male version.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2620302]Idk if anyone has tried to go to casa Cuba lately, as the location on the map hasnt updated. So you see casa Cuba. On carr 47 calle 59. It moved.

So keep walking down calle 59 towards carr 48, take a left downhill on carr 48.

Carr 48 -58-64-- to the right of this building is a giant parking garage thing. Can't miss it walk in and go past the security, you will see an outdoor staircase to your left. Walk up, that is the new casa Cuba.

Simply the best, the best. Sebastian the bro who runs the place knows how to pick his girls. Always BBBJ and ymmv on DFK.

I've yet to see a gringo here but I've exhausted my presence at this casa LMAO so it's all yours.[/QUOTE]Stopped there today, enjoyed a session. Place was jam packed at 330 on a Friday afternoon, I only got to see 3 of the chicks in presentation, hope to get back to see the rest. I think he's got 7-10.

The address you list is correct. The photo someone else posted is of the place next door.

"Cuba" is inside of the love hotel car park, and as JW said, head thru the big purple painted car park, take the first stairs up on the left. Quite nice rooms even got some hot water which was unbelievable!

I hadn't been to Cuba before but Sebastian said he's been around for 18 years, surprised I haven't managed to pass thru his doors (the location has changed a lot) previously as I make a point to hit most places.

Of course, as I'm walking around after, someone hands me a flyer. I send it a whatsapp, and of course, its The Cuba. Apparently Fate had it for me to find them today. +573194592464.45/65 hh / HR. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2620758]YMMV but Centro was a bust this October overall. Some of my observations.

1. It feels more dangerous this time around, especially after dark. More weirdos who I feel are are trying to approach me, especially around the less lit areas. Probably because more foreigners attract more thieves.
[/QUOTE]El Centro is dangerous after dark. Always has, always will. It's not because you're a foreigner, its because you're there and you shouldn't be. There's a reason its empty after dark of locals, they're not stupid, they leave. Get an Uber pickup where you're at, and get out.

For the newbies: El Centro can be dangerous at any time of day. Don't take your flashy shit, don't pull your phone out looking at the map on the corner ("Hellooooo I'm LOST and I have a $1000 phone. ! and stay low key. El Centro shouldn't be a place you have any problems but you need to have a lot of common sense. If you don't (and if you think being in el Centro after dark is a good idea, I politely question your common sense), you might be better off staying away as that cheap pussy might end up costing you a lot more from silly mistakes.

Cheers, BM.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2622566]For the new members on this board, they are called Sacaleros, [/QUOTE]Well, if they're dudes they would be called sacaleros. I'm hoping you prefer sacaler [B]a[/B]s. Sorry. You keep posting about sacaleros but I don't think you are queer.

I am comparing street area to street area of Pattaya, Thailand, Angeles City, Philippines. Not really fair in that the other two countries street girl area is mostly foreigners with few locals versus Colombia which is almost all locals. Now this does not happen all the time but it feels like it when I compare it to my visits to the Thailand or Philippines. Violence. It is like never ending here.

Last night at 8:00 pm two guys get into a fight at the corner of the Botero church. Police grab one guy but not the other who of course magically gets away. The guy they capture it seems was stabbed or beat in the head. Not much blood but he soon lays down, loses consciousness, carried to the police truck, and taken to the hospital.

Last Sunday at 1:00 in the afternoon on the corner diagonal from the back of the museum where the bars start. There is a man and woman in their late 50's or early 60's drunk fighting. They wrestle to the ground. She is trying to kick him in the face. At first it was funny because the whole thing is like watching a replay MMA fight in slow motion. He gets away and backs up 3 meters and pulls a knife. Then another guy walks him across the street and he leaves. Unreal!

Same day a street girl standing in front of one of the statues near the corner of the statue. Her loser boyfriend is on the side of the statue who yanks her hair where her head hit or nearly hit the statue.

Later that same day another street girl and loser boyfriend are fighting and she bites his chest to get away.

Two weeks ago two girls are fighting. I have seen enough hair pulling on other girlie fights so ignore it. Minute later I look and the girl on the bottom is bleeding. The top girl was punching, not pulling hair, and gave her a bloody nose. Police come but let the both girls go 3 minutes later.

Even when these people talk they get in each others faces pointing fingers and waving their arms around. Puts me in attack mode when they are doing this next to me. Not use to it and do not like it. It is not relaxing to be around. God knows what all happens the hours between 9 pm to 2 am when they are all nice and drunk. Oops reminds me of a time last year I was out at only 8:30 pm behind the church at the bars. Some guy got hit in the head with a bottle and lost a lot of blood. There was a puddle equal to the size of a basketball on the ground and plenty on his shirt. Not sure how he did not pass out.

Colombia is cheap all around. But the food sucks. Everything is so far away from each other. The other two countries the street girls, strip bars, discos, good restaurants, hotels, and mall are all walking distance to each other. Here everything is so far away from each other that a taxi is required.

Also, tired of everyone trying to rip me off. This time International Smiles. My quote was $2900 three months ago. It just jumped to $10,500 with a discount that came to $8100 because I have a special situation which is true but not that unique of a problem. Like they could not have contacted me several months ago as soon as they knew? Nope. It will take a month to do the work and they know I leave in a month. They put me in a time crunch thinking I will cave. No, especially when I get pissed off. I can return in February and have someone else do the work or get it done in another country. They do not like giving out receipts or giving estimates by email or written on paper. Very professional and want to send by Whatsapp! Tired of feeling financially raped.

So when Asia opens up I will be gone. I think I will visit Colombia for 6 months every two years. This is a place for me to visit but not retire. Very little peace of mind here. Can not wait until I can return to Asia and try some new countries there.

A new hotel with 2 bars and 20 rooms is opening in late Nov in Poblado, large 16 person outdoor Jacuzzi can be rented for parties as well as rooms by the hour, I was told the the bars will have a large selection of independent working girls, something to look out for in the coming weeks, located between calle 10 and calle 10 a 1 block down from avenida Poblado.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2622529]Yes I mean to the right of this address.: carr 48-#58-64 It is inside this picture provided by sodomizerher lol, you go in the parking garage and pass the security booth and the stairs are to the left.

45 k 30 min 70 k HR.[/QUOTE]I would really like to go to this place as I'm getting a bit tired of centro.

But I can't find it.

I think I'm too stupid to read the Address right.

Can please someone help with a link, So that I can find it?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2622763]So when Asia opens up I will be gone. I think I will visit Colombia for 6 months every two years. This is a place for me to visit but not retire. Very little peace of mind here. Can not wait until I can return to Asia and try some new countries there.[/QUOTE]I agree the violence is bad in Colombia, and it always has been, but it goes with the territory.

Thailand has opened back up, and will see how it goes in the next few months.

Hopefully well, so all the newcomer SEA guys who have shown up in Medellin can leave and don't come back because I consider a lot of them, and other newbies in the last six months, not you, to have kinda spoiled Centro.

Nothing personal against the SEA guys, as I like SEA as well, but I just feel as though my turf has been shit on over the last six months. And I know there are others as well.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2622763]I am comparing street area to street area of Pattaya, Thailand, Angeles City, Philippines. Not really fair in that the other two countries street girl area is mostly foreigners with few locals versus Colombia which is almost all locals. Now this does not happen all the time but it feels like it when I compare it to my visits to the Thailand or Philippines. Violence. It is like never ending here.

Colombia is cheap all around. But the food sucks. Everything is so far away from each other. The other two countries the street girls, strip bars, discos, good restaurants, hotels, and mall are all walking distance to each other. Here everything is so far away from each other that a taxi is required.

Also, tired of everyone trying to rip me off. This time International Smiles. My quote was $2900 three months ago. It just jumped to $10,500 with a discount that came to $8100 because I have a special situation which is true but not that unique of a problem. Like they could not have contacted me several months ago as soon as they knew? Nope. It will take a month to do the work and they know I leave in a month. They put me in a time crunch thinking I will cave. No, especially when I get pissed off. I can return in February and have someone else do the work or get it done in another country. They do not like giving out receipts or giving estimates by email or written on paper. Very professional and want to send by Whatsapp! Tired of feeling financially raped.

So when Asia opens up I will be gone. I think I will visit Colombia for 6 months every two years. This is a place for me to visit but not retire. Very little peace of mind here. Can not wait until I can return to Asia and try some new countries there.[/QUOTE]You may need to change your name here on the ISG as well. Lol. 😅

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2622855]I would really like to go to this place as I'm getting a bit tired of centro.

But I can't find it.

I think I'm too stupid to read the Address right.

Can please someone help with a link, So that I can find it?[/QUOTE]Pescadería Doris Bill, centro.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/d6s7SGvz83wXte7m6[/URL]

That appears to be the place. It will at least get you to the parking garage.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2622758]Well, if they're dudes they would be called sacaleros. I'm hoping you prefer sacaler [B]a[/B]s. Sorry. You keep posting about sacaleros but I don't think you are queer.[/QUOTE]I believe he was generalizing so then he was referring to both male and female, in that case he was correct in referring to them as sacalerOs.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2622758]Well, if they're dudes they would be called sacaleros. I'm hoping you prefer sacaler [B]a[/B]s. Sorry. You keep posting about sacaleros but I don't think you are queer.[/QUOTE]Okay I get the humour in this. Yep, I went to EAFIT as well like Jbee2, yet I can't get things right either.

And good to know you don't think I'm a queer. I feel relieved about this. LOL.

All due respect, but seems like all your posts are about using 100% correct Spanish.

My guess is your a native Spanish speaker, where as most of the board members here are not.

Having Spanish speaking skills in Colombia is huge, yet this board is centered around finding and fucking women, and to that end, perfect Spanish is not necessary.

So with that being said, perhaps you can post something about your experiences in Colombia as far as finding and fucking women.

And don't get me wrong, everyone on this board, except the native Spanish speakers should welcome input on proper Spanish saying "dichos" in the context of what this board is about, versus Spanish textbook instruction having nothing to do with what this board is about.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2622697]Papasan is the male version.[/QUOTE]Popadom would be cuter.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2622877]I believe he was generalizing so then he was referring to both male and female, in that case he was correct in referring to them as sacalerOs.[/QUOTE]Except that his post specifically mentioned girls several times and never said anything about males.

[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2622656]I have done a lot of research finding guest friendly accommodations for an over two month stay in Medellin. I wanted to get away from San Peters or anything too close to there because of the noise and I wanted to be able to host three girls should things work out. I also wanted to stay in both El Poblado and Laureles. Here are some of my findings, some of which will have to be verified once I am there at the very end of December.
.[/QUOTE]Cage Monkey, thanks muchly for taking the time to consolidate and share experiences and findings from your search for Girl Friendly accommodations. As a regular peruser of the ISG Medellin thread, I enjoy reading BM posts on their El Centro dalliances and contretemps and Osteoknot's stream-of-conscious riffs on his Medillin escapades. That said, I log onto ISG primarily to glean information of every-day, practical use in my pursuit of Paisa pussy and one's overall enjoyment of life in the Ciudad de Eterna Primavera. (A shout out to other recent posters for adding Casa Cuba to my casa browsing list.).

One follow-up question. How to do the prices for the apartment complexes that you list compare with those of San Peter's for its larger, upper floor, better noise-insulated apartments? (If not mistaken, about $1,000 per month.).

[QUOTE=Balboa;2622873]You may need to change your name here on the ISG as well. Lol. 😅[/QUOTE]I've always wondered about that. LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2622867]I agree the violence is bad in Colombia, and it always has been, but it goes with the territory.

Thailand has opened back up, and will see how it goes in the next few months.

Hopefully well, so all the newcomer SEA guys who have shown up in Medellin can leave and don't come back because I consider a lot of them, and other newbies in the last six months, not you, to have kinda spoiled Centro.

Nothing personal against the SEA guys, as I like SEA as well, but I just feel as though my turf has been shit on over the last six months. And I know there are others as well.[/QUOTE]Colombia is becoming more and more an interesting Country to travel to and will continue to do so, even when SEA opens back up.

People want to See New Things and Colombia is still a bit New and exotic so newbies will continue to come here also.

You Can not stop it or change it, its the Way it is.

I would come here also without SEA closing. The SEA closure made it only faster.

I will also travel to other countries and spoil These markets also LOL. No matter what happens in SEA.

And especially Thailand gets bored for many because its not what its used to be and people will Look out for New mongering Destinations.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2622877]I believe he was generalizing so then he was referring to both male and female, in that case he was correct in referring to them as sacalerOs.[/QUOTE]Except he was talking about having sex with them, otherwise yes.

So yeah, this is the place that used to be known as "Balcones de Cuba" that has been around for 15+ years that I know of. The Cuba in its name was a nod to its address and the balcones was a reference to the set up of the rooms overlooking a staircase if I remember correctly. I had not been to the old place in more than ten years. I used to lump it in with the place known as Barcelona because of their proximity to Prado and the generally older and thicker character of their staff. This was quite a few years ago so it's likely worth another look. Personally, I doubt I will visit anytime soon because I would have to pass by several other places like Amigas Sexxy, Zandaly, and of course Plaza Botero to get there. I look forward to reading about how others like it.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2622855]I would really like to go to this place as I'm getting a bit tired of centro.

But I can't find it.

I think I'm too stupid to read the Address right.

Can please someone help with a link, So that I can find it?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2622881]Having Spanish speaking skills in Colombia is huge, yet this board is centered around finding and fucking women, and to that end, perfect Spanish is not necessary.
.[/QUOTE]Not to mention, most Colombians don't speak perfect Spanish either, just like most English speakers don't speak perfect Englsih. The best is just to get out there and say what you can. You will improve with time and practice. Mostly you can get your point across without being perfect. And it can be a lot of fun muddling thru with a pleasant chica.

That's virile, not viral. Just drink shark sperm like me in that foto and you will never lack in sexual performance again, jajjaa.

Miss you guys but figure you prob don't want to hear about my escapades so much in the states here. I was going to start organizing for my return to Medellin as soon as I got back from my two favorite beaches (with my ex, who flew back to PA) in SC, Myrtle and Folly.

But I decided to drive down to FL in my Z instead. The weather here just turned cold. One of my favorite features about Medellin is the climate. I am going to aim for Atlantic City. I like the Seahorse motel where you step right out your door onto the sand and is old school, Florida, which I appreciate having been born there.

I am due to catch up with family who lives there. I keep hopscotching over them back and forth to MDE and after a few trips it seems like I could be avoiding them, so I will make the trip now.

I'll keep you posted about how "upgrading" my visa goes from this end, in case anyone else wants to give that a shot.

True Confessions, I paid two girls' rents this month in Medellin. I have a numbered, ranked line-up of girls that mainly differs from anything I have ever read here in that all the girls know their ranking, their number. They vye for position, Number One, Catgirl, never changes and that is key to her putting up with my escapades.

The top three or four are novias, and they get the most benefits. Rents are cheap and I can stay for as long as I want at either of those two places when I land in MDE, if I choose. One apartment is in Aurora, the other is Bello. In descending order my girls are ranked as novias, then come amigas, followed by chicas, then putas. The cut-off points between the categories vary a little, but generally by the time I am down to number ten, we are talking putas. The main reason I wrote this, is do not ever feel guilty on how you spend your money in MDE or anywhere for that matter. What you spend does not effect what others pay, period. Even if it did, it's no one else's business but your own.

Not that there have been many, but I don't respond directly to posts anymore here, nothing personal, that just time management for me. I believe I have answered everyone who has written me here in Private Messaging, but I am not checking in as often. I remain drug free and strong.

As always, Keep On Keepin' On!

P.S. I added a recent foto of Catgirl's camel toe, mi numero uno novia that I noticed at the last minute. Yes, I realize those animals, cats and camels, don't mix, jajaja. That foto is a zoom and crop, she did not originally send me a foto of just her crotch, jaja.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2622881]My guess is your a native Spanish speaker, where as most of the board members here are not.[/QUOTE]I'm not but I have a bachelor's degree in it. I used to live in Medellin and I still miss it sometimes, so that's why I read the board, but have little to offer in the way of hooker stories. I post in my home country but there ain't much going on there. I only point out mistakes that I see over and over again. I would want to be corrected in that situation.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2622890]Cage Monkey, thanks muchly for taking the time to consolidate and share experiences and findings from your search for Girl Friendly accommodations. As a regular peruser of the ISG Medellin thread, I enjoy reading BM posts on their El Centro dalliances and contretemps and Osteoknot's stream-of-conscious riffs on his Medillin escapades. That said, I log onto ISG primarily to glean information of every-day, practical use in my pursuit of Paisa pussy and one's overall enjoyment of life in the Ciudad de Eterna Primavera. (A shout out to other recent posters for adding Casa Cuba to my casa browsing list.).

One follow-up question. How to do the prices for the apartment complexes that you list compare with those of San Peter's for its larger, upper floor, better noise-insulated apartments? (If not mistaken, about $1,000 per month.).[/QUOTE]Overall, the non San Peter apartments are a bit more expensive but, usually have other features which make up for it, besides the noise issues at San Peters. Even with sound proof windows some reviewers still had issues. For me, San Peters apartments are fairly bare bones. I like a real sitting area away from the bedroom, with a large TV and comfortable couches and or chairs. And they are just much more nicely decorated, which is nice for long term stays. Overall, the San Peters sitting areas are not that comfortable looking. I like an area which will help put a lady at ease, to break the ice with a drink or just chatting. Now, I am going to be spending over two months in MDE so comfort is a priority out side the bedroom. If I was two weeks or less, SP would be a good option. I can and have used ear plugs but prefer not too. They are also more secure and I am sure, and the people there have seen every issue there is between punters and the girls. In my two rentals neither one has a doorman or security at night near as I can tell. This is a blessing and a risk. A blessing between I don't have to have to endure the dagger eyes of grandmothers when I take a girl more than half my age (but legal!) up to my apartment. I can also have a Venezuelan with maybe less than perfect documentation in. However, also a risk for there is no nighttime security. I tend to be cautious so I feel I will be ok. Last but not least, SP apartments max out at 3 people occupancy, whereas most for that same 1 k a month you can get a two bedroom with 4 max which is what I did. A foursome is on my bucket list.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2622910]Not to mention, most Colombians don't speak perfect Spanish either, just like most English speakers don't speak perfect Englsih. The best is just to get out there and say what you can. You will improve with time and practice. Mostly you can get your point across without being perfect. And it can be a lot of fun muddling thru with a pleasant chica.[/QUOTE]Tell her you have a hard time rolling your are's. And could she physically teach you how.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2622875]Pescadera Doris Bill, centro.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/d6s7SGvz83wXte7m6[/URL]

That appears to be the place. It will at least get you to the parking garage.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Found IT and was there.

Easy to reach from metro Prado within 5 min walking.

3 from 7 mujeres available.

45 k for 30 min and 70 k for 1 hour.

Opening from 10-17.

Had a dark one with black hair for 30 min (I think EManuela).

The others seemed not so happy.

Best BBBJ I had here in MDE. I needed to stop here because otherwise would shoot in her mouth.

Fucked her in doggy and finished quickly.

Paid and leave.

Will come again.

Any other casa recommendations?

All the ones I frequent are closed on Sundays. Thanks in advance for your input.

After the casa I meet the one with green blond dyed hair I meet a few days before in centro again.

Again 30 k. I fucked her hard in doggy then changed to mish.

And then noticed the condom was inside her pussy.

I wanted to continue RAW. She asked for a tip.

I offered 20 k, which She accepted and then continued RAW.

Creampie Was not allowed so I had to cum outside.

Was nice.

NOW a banana leche shake and then back to Poblado.

Would like to visit an other casa tomorrow.

Reconsider Travel to:

Antioquia department north of Medellin.

Reconsider Travel to:

Several departments throughout the country due to crime and terrorism.

Country Summary: Colombia is experiencing continuing demonstrations, unrest, and disruptions throughout the country. The nationwide events can cause the shutdown of local roads and major highways, often without prior notice or estimated reopening timelines. Road closures may significantly reduce access to public transportation and airports and may disrupt travel both within and between cities. Several cities have seen vandalism, looting, and destruction. Demonstrations have resulted in fatalities and injuries across the country.

Violent crime, such as homicide, assault, and armed robbery, is common. Organized criminal activities, such as extortion, robbery, and kidnapping for ransom, are widespread.

"it will never happen to me" "whatever will be will be" "you only live once" "my life blows, what have i got to lose" "i'm a badass from the hood with street cred so yeh bring it" "I rtff"

What's your point?

[QUOTE=Bill;2622997]Reconsider Travel to:

Antioquia department north of Medellin.

Reconsider Travel to:

Several departments throughout the country due to crime and terrorism.

Country Summary: Colombia is experiencing continuing demonstrations, unrest, and disruptions throughout the country. The nationwide events can cause the shutdown of local roads and major highways, often without prior notice or estimated reopening timelines. Road closures may significantly reduce access to public transportation and airports and may disrupt travel both within and between cities. Several cities have seen vandalism, looting, and destruction. Demonstrations have resulted in fatalities and injuries across the country."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Casagoer;2622990]All the ones I frequent are closed on Sundays. Thanks in advance for your input.[/QUOTE]Which one you frequent? Maybe you can share this Information?

The DiDi driver told me to avoid el Centro on Sunday, because shops are closed and the place is more dangerous.

Is it really much more dangerous? Are there girls on Sunday? There is no reason to get there if there are no girls.

Gracias.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2623015]What's your point?[/QUOTE]Seriously, I never read the state dept's garbage. They make it sound like every country on the planet should be avoided.

Anyone here pick up regular, non-hooker girls? Like bars, clubs, malls, etc? I'm talking either daygame or nightgame. I know that quite a few girls at clubs are "semi pros" as well. What's tinder like, for example?

When I was in Thailand, picking up girls was a breeze. I'm not even talking semi pros, I'm talking regular chicks. Tinder was also super easy. Same in Vietnam.

How does Colombia compare? Medellin, Cartagena, Bogota?

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2621033]Speaking of SENTRI, I will be going to Tijuana later this month. Planning on hitting up the HK club as my research shows they have the hottest talent. Any tips I should know about for Tijuana mongering? $100 usd for 30 min is pretty steep LOL.

Planning to park at the border and walk across then taxi to the clubs. It's a business trip, so my hotel is booked in San Diego. I'm assuming it's not as dangerous as El Centro in MDE, and I shouldn't have any issue crossing back into SD at 1-2 AM?[/QUOTE]From San Diego, take taxi down to last exit before the border. There's a east and west entrance. Once across take a taxi directly to HK. Now at the taxi stand it's best to be clear with price. "Cinco a La Hong Kong?" So they don't stiff you later. I still tip $1.

Crossing back shouldn't be a problem. I think the new entrance is closed at 1-2 am. So you want to stay near jack in box entrance side. The old entrance.

Tips at the club. There's a robe guy tip $1. There's also a clock watcher room cleaner. What I do is look for the cleaners and tip prior to session but also mention knock later to get more time.

[QUOTE=Bill;2622997]Reconsider Travel to:

Antioquia department north of Medellin.

Reconsider Travel to:

Several departments throughout the country due to crime and terrorism.

Country Summary: Colombia is experiencing continuing demonstrations, unrest, and disruptions throughout the country. The nationwide events can cause the shutdown of local roads and major highways, often without prior notice or estimated reopening timelines. Road closures may significantly reduce access to public transportation and airports and may disrupt travel both within and between cities. Several cities have seen vandalism, looting, and destruction. Demonstrations have resulted in fatalities and injuries across the country.

Violent crime, such as homicide, assault, and armed robbery, is common. Organized criminal activities, such as extortion, robbery, and kidnapping for ransom, are widespread.[/QUOTE]It's a 3rd world country what do you expect.

Well so far Medellin has been good to me, the first time I came I made. Some good contacts also met "regular" girls who I visited once again went out dinner drinks all that. Of course a month before I used SA I had some luck there but honestly and things just me I paid for tinder platinum or gold whatever it is and used this to talk to girls which I had great success with. Here you will find I'd say 80% girls who "need help" and the rest are just "regular girls" I've had about 14 through my trip with a few days to rest and just enjoy Colombia. But recently towards the end of my trip I took advantage of the mad provided and hit el Centro. First with a guide because my goal was to buy gold I did it last time I visited and this time I needed more help cause I heard el Centro you get robbed, killed and all types of stories. I hit a few spots with my little guide working in pricing guarantees and also testing thr gold I was successful and left immediately never know who's watching. I came. Back the next day and wow I got to say I like el Centro it it's very busy but the food is so cheap it's insane compared to Poblado or where I am renting a house Laureles. I did hit up the strip on the map there are come nice looking girls but for the most part I really didn't like them, most looked run down maybe it was the time I went to (12-3 pm) I did see one cute spinner on one of the hotel staircases I figured I needed to try a girl from el Centro at least once. She wanted 100.00 I assume she could see the newbie in me I offered 30 k she came back at 80 k I said 69 m and called it a day walked up the steps paid for the room believe it was 7 k. Anyways the set up I assume is the norm everywhere they give a towel condom and a shitty bar of soap which smells horrible LOL. Girl was great tiny frame great little ass. She did a bbj condom went on Mish and of course finished with doggy. Over all the way I've done things is I suppose the "new school way" utilizing social media on average the girls wants between 150-200. I did hitnuo gusto Jesus the women do look good but 200. USD NO thanks. Again Medellin has been good to me meet new friends. Thanks for all the great info on here thays provided by the vets.

[QUOTE=HopOnPartyBus;2622850]A new hotel with 2 bars and 20 rooms is opening in late Nov in Poblado, large 16 person outdoor Jacuzzi can be rented for parties as well as rooms by the hour, I was told the the bars will have a large selection of independent working girls, something to look out for in the coming weeks, located between calle 10 and calle 10 a 1 block down from avenida Poblado.[/QUOTE]I suspect this might be Pablado Rentals (I posted some info on them in an earlier post about airbnb findings) transforming there building (or one of their buildings) into a hotel on that street. I am all for this for most of my experiences with FL's have been good and maybe PR they will get some of my money after by personal boycott! I will be in that area end of Dec to Jan 6th and if they are open I give it a review.

I don't seek out the information but I see it quoted frequently. I saw quite a lot of it during the months of the pandemic lockdown. My impression is it errs on the side of caution and is out of date more often than not.

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2623102]Seriously, I never read the state dept's garbage. They make it sound like every country on the planet should be avoided.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VasyaPetya;2623105]Anyone here pick up regular, non-hooker girls? Like bars, clubs, malls, etc? I'm talking either daygame or nightgame. I know that quite a few girls at clubs are "semi pros" as well. What's tinder like, for example?

When I was in Thailand, picking up girls was a breeze. I'm not even talking semi pros, I'm talking regular chicks. Tinder was also super easy. Same in Vietnam.

How does Colombia compare? Medellin, Cartagena, Bogota?[/QUOTE]It's just my opinion, but with a few exceptions, picking up women isn't country or region specific. If you can pickup girls at home, you should be able to pickup girls anywhere.

I don't think Tinder really fits in with that, unless you're within your age group. I'm 59. I can get women 45 and up on Tinder any day. No problem whatsoever. However, my chance of picking up a 23 year old is slim, unless it's a financial transaction. Tinder is 90% superficial. If a girl swipes right on you, she either thinks you have a look she's interested in, or she thinks there's a profit to be made. There's nothing else in the initial process.

The area where I've always done best is online. I can chat, make some jokes, be interesting (or at least simulate it) and get past the first glance stage. Long before I gave up dating for "the money's on the nightstand", online was my candy store. In my experience, women are much more likely than men to go for someone much older (and any other negative attributes), if you can get them talking.

If your way is bars, clubs and malls, your success in Colombia should match your success anywhere else.

All I have to say is, I am so sad to be home. I am sitting at my house now and just thinking about Medellin. Looking at how much I have invested thinking man I could live there for 30 years off my savings and enjoy my 30's and 40's way more.

Little background, I made a few reports, but to anyone that doesn't know me. I'm 35 Italian in NY area, lots of tats, and love Spanish women. I've been going to Montreal for French girls, and DR the last year for Spanish girls. DR last trip was fun but my friend told me to go to Colombia, he was there for a bachelor party.

I did reading a little nervous because of crime, but booked Medellin. I figured I hold my own in the Bronx, I can hold my own anywhere.

I lined up chicks on tinder and facebook, but it's not needed in Medellin. Stay near Parque Llerras, tons of women, and in my opinion way higher quality than the girls I met in DR. Beautiful light skinned Colombian girls with fat asses. Also have darker skinned too, I love all colors.

Day 1:

I fly in on Halloween, immediately buy my sim card, and meet a contact for my party supplies. Half oz of fire (was ok but not fire compared to my NY standards), 3 g tussi. Also got 3 bottles of henny pure white. Lock everything up in my safe, smoke a L on the balcony while chatting with some facebook bitches, and then I hit parque Lleras because I'm hungry. All that lining up on tinder and facebook went right out the window. Parque Lleras around 11 PM was crowded with bitches in Halloween costumes. I sat down and ate, had such a fat ass waitress, got her whatsapp on the way out. I went into a club, Lleras park, filled with dimes. Started collecting whatsapp, all the girls were IG models, and then they had younger girls too learning how to work the clubs. You could tell who the boss bitches were. I found a couch and they kept coming up to me quoting me 200 K-300 K (ratio is 1 USD for about 3,500 pesos). Anyway now I got about 20 numbers and my line is blowing up, I have a problem where I have too many options. I tell them all I am staying for about 2 months (even though really only 5 days) so they think they can make more in the long run instead of hitting a quick lick.

I'm talking numbers and all of the sudden the waitress text me saying she is off work, I ask her if she wants to grab a drink and smoke, she says sure. We go up to my place drink some she starts dancing, I had sheek louch on, she said no papi and put on some Spanish music. It was def the right move. I'll keep DBLOCK at home. Yoooo this bitches ass was so fat, she said she was 22. I'm stuck at this point, if you ever go to Colombia try tussi, it's like MDMA mixed with coke. I tear it up for about 45 minutes until first leche then we shower and chill. She goes back to work on me waking me back up, I start beating it up again then she squirts all over my bed. I hate that shit cause I got to sleep there. Anyway she lingers for awhile now it's about 7 AM and I'm like yo you got to go I'll call you a uber, want 200 K? She gets mad and says " I'm no prepago" I say ok ok my bad girl, and she doesn't take a dime. I take 2 Xanax and knock myself out, no way I was falling asleep by myself.

Day 2:

I wake up and go walk down calle 10, end up ubering to san diego mall. Yoooooooo so many baddies shopping. I use google translate introducing myself and collecting more whatsapps. I also found a store that sold me Viagra, bought 10 50 MG pills, needed it to balance out the tussi to keep me rock hard LOL go back to the hotel fire up a L and start chatting with some chicks that are trying to stop over. I tell this one Venezuelan chick she can come over if she gives me a good massage and extra tip if she makes me leche twice. (I usually get mad lazy after the first nut) , she agrees to 150 K and tells me 20 min. She shows up lookin bad with a white jump suit on, and has someone with her. I say what's up and point to her friend confused, she uses google translate and says it's her cousin and she thought I was cute too. So I say I only want her, but she say her cousin come along anyway, I say fuck it. We get upstairs smoke, they do some tussi, and start rubbing me down. They admiring my tattoos tell me how sexy I am, trying to make me feel like a king, I love it. Long story short they end up both getting it, and I gave her cousin 100 K, and gave her 300 K, 400 K total (barely 100 USD) they were there for about 3 hours, I had to boot them out. I take a nap and wake up about 9 PM.

I no lie wake up to about 30 messages, I'm like damn man which ***** looks like what, too many options. I message one of my facebook chicks and say I'm going to eat if she hungry. She down meets me at diablo steakhouse. Bro she shows up in tight black skirt with red top, she the devil, bad asf. We eat I ask her if she want to smoke, she says sure, we go back to hotel and smoke. We google translating, I already been talking to her for about a week now. She telling me how she loves me and feels good vibe from me blah blah blah, I'm on this mdma telling her I think I love her too, yo no lie mdma makes me really feel like I be loving them. We drink a little and she says have you been to gustos? I say no we go, mad bitches, I'm like why did I come here with this *****? She hits the bathroom, I grab the bartenders whatsapp. The bartender was nice, I tried to tip her 20,000 peso, and she said no no too much papi. She seems like a really nice girl and sexy. My girl comes back and she says papi lets go back to your room. I bring her back, popped a Viagra on the walk LOL.

Guys starting this moment I started making very bad choices that I regret but at the time seemed right. I go back, smoke a L, and lay in bed telling her she got to put in the work, I'm feeling lazy. She sucking me for about 15 minutes, turns around and dancing over me to reggaeton music. She bad man. Then she lowers herself down turns around looks me in the eyes and slides me inside of her. My mind is saying yo put a condom on, but I just couldn't do it. She was so bad I'm telling you, I never seen chicks like this in DR or Montreal or NY. These bitches are BAD in Colombia. They are on another level. So she riding me, I throw her on all four, watching that ass slapping back, she can feel me about to nut and starts pushing back into me. I end up nutting right in her and she saying papi I love you blah blah blah, I'm thinking fuck what did I just do. Now it's almost 1 AM and she on her phone and says papi my amiga is close, want to chill with her? I say fuck it lets go, and we meet at terraza club. Her friend was badder than her, I'm still amazed by the quality there. Long story short I end up bringing both back to the hotel, we up till almost 6 am chillin, condom was on and off LOL I made bad choices this trip. Again these chicks both trying to sleep in my bed. I tell them ya got to go and give them both 200 K. I dunno why but these girls always trying to sleep over, I can't sleep with them in my room though, trust issues LOL.

Day 3:

Wake up, fire up a L, grab some lunch solo. Chatting with chicks over the phone they all sending me pics trying to chill, the non pro girls are the best to me. The girls from the mall are all over me, I'm sending them apartments that I might pick that are stupid expensive so they thinking this nigga going to pay me. The bartender from the previous night says she is off today and having a little party later if I want to slide through. Everything I read online told me to not go into random taxis, not go to random houses, blah blah blah, I did the opposite. I told her sure I'll link up later with her, shoot me the address. In the mean time I end up telling one of the Instagram hoes to come over and give me a massage (I love massages after smoking a L, great way to start a nap LOL).

She meets me at the hotel, smokes, giving me a good massage. She asks for 300 K, I say 200 K, she say papi I'm not like the normal girls trust me. I say show me why you worth 300 K. This chick puts in work, it's like every one of these girls had the perfect figure, fat ass, slim waist, nice tits. I put a condom on and she riding me but it keeps getting soft so I ask her to finish me with head. She down there for like 30 minutes I'm about to give up and she say papi I want to feel you, and slides me in. I'm in there again making a bad choice, but can't stop myself. I end up pulling out and nutting on her face, give her 300 K, nap time.

Wake up and bartender chick gives me address, it's about 20 minutes from Medellin. I do no research just do some tussi, smoke a L, and hop in a random taxi. 30 minutes later I'm sitting in a house party in Colombia, probably about 8 chicks and 3 dudes. Google translating conversations, it was actually mad work. I got fucked up that night, perfect opportunity for someone to rob me. She telling me how she could tell I was different because I didn't go after the girls in the club, telling me how she likes me blah blah. I end up in her room and she puts on her Halloween outfit asking if I liked, it was a devil outfit. Long story short, I made another bad choice, she sucking me asks if I have condom and I say no didn't even think to bring one, she says she is on the pill and she trusts me. I lay down the pipe for at least 2 hours nutted 2 times in her and then started hitting her ass too. I am laying there watching her slide my dick in her ass wondering why I can't live here. About 5-6 AM, and she says lets sleep. I say I got to get home to let my boy in the hotel which was a lie, so she go outside the room, and some guy at the door then saying he drive me home. No idea who this dude is, but I go with him. Luckily he dropped me off, I break him off some bread, and text her while falling asleep. Did not pay her a dime either.

Day 4:

Wake up, fire a L, eat breakfast. I googled a place called Loutron, supposed to have the baddest girls in the city. So I take a Viagra, do a little tussi, and smoke another L. Get a car ride there and damn it's official. I picked a Brazilian chick was 350 K, expensive, but oh well. She put in all the work, bro I don't even think I sat up, I just laid there. Go back to the hotel, and take a nap. Starting to get irritated with having too many whatsapps, too many conversations, mad work. I smoke and go walk around parque Lleras. All kinds of girls coming up to me, a blonde Colombian girl in a dress stands out to me, I go for it. She tells me she works in the store here, makes sense cause I went in a store to go talk to her LOL. She said they close around 12 and gives me whatsapp. Say no more I go chill, drink, and smoke. I make a bad choice here though and went back to club gusto. I'm leaning against a wall while a girl grinding on me and the bartender sees me and looks upset that I'm chilling with another girl. She starts speaking Spanish to the other girl they getting into it, I say brb bathroom, and dip out. Ain't dealing with that. The girl from the store hits me up saying she doesn't usually date foreigners, I understand, tell her she just so beautiful that I would of regret it if I didn't approach. Long story short I get her to go out with me, back in the hotel she puts in work. But then out of no where I noticed her phone was on against the wall recording the bed. I say wtf? Grab her phone delete everything, she say papi I'm sorry I just really like you. I kick her out because I'm bugged out, why this ***** recording me?

End up having 2 other chicks come through about 30 minutes after, pound them both out and give them each 150 K, back to bed.

Day 5:

Worst day of bad choices. I end up hitting the facebook girl raw again, a 3 some where I couldn't come so I hit them raw too, I just kept taking the condom off this trip, or they did. I think it was because of the tussi and Viagra, just so many bad choices. On calle 10 some guy tried to rob me with his friend outside a pharmacy, one tried to grab my phone and I had a good grip so I pulled it back, other dude came toward me and I rocked him in the jaw. The dude that tried to grab my phone just stood there and we stared each other in the eye and he just started to walk away.

Now it's almost 11 PM my last night there, I'm thinking of all the bad choices, I'm heated too cause of the robbery attempt. My fist hurts too all red, but I think yo I'm here, what am I doing in the hotel. Got one of the mall girls to come over (I personally love girls that are not pros, they put in better work, and fall into love with me so easy, they are less business, because they think I want more than just sex).

She comes over smokes does some tussi drinks and starts putting in work. I end up hitting this chick raw too, I just couldn't stop myself this trip, Colombian women have a curse on me like mind control LOL. I tell her I got to get up early to meet my friend and ask her if she wants to link up tomorrow (I know it's a lie cause I'll be gone) she says of course, she fell in love tonight, and she refuses money too. I say the right shit to these chicks when I got that MDMA in my system LOL So she leaves and I think shit I'm awake, no way I can go back to sleep now. Go hit parque Lleras and grab 2 Colombian chicks that were chatting, they told me 500 K for both of them, I say lets go. Once we start walking some girl asks the girls I'm with something and I dunno wtf they saying. So she says can our other friend come too? I'm with it lets go, so now me and 3 chicks. Get to the hotel and the hotel won't let them in cause of their passports or something, the 2 were ok Colombian but the 1 Venezuelan. I bribe the guy 100 K pesos, and we all upstairs smoking and chillin now. Got one of them dancing one sucking me and the other rubbing my back. I like this shit, smoking a L passing it to them. They all Instagram hoes, the one showing me how she has 1 M followers, like I give a fuck. Same shit happen here though and bad choices. Start with the condom but I couldn't nut so next thing I know I'm hitting them all without it. The bitches are so bad I just couldn't hold my ground on the condom. Had them all bent over popping into each of them, one riding me while the one sucked my balls, so much dirty shit that night.

Now I'm home, thinking why do I not live there? The women I met at the mall, facebook etc. They all have my heart it's crazy. The regular Colombian chicks I can see why people love them, they capture your heart so quick. I want to move there now LOL I broke my sim card in half and threw out my phone before boarding flight home. I know if I kept contact I'd waste so much time texting these bitches. But it was hard to do because I felt a attachment to some of them. The one girl laid there with her head on my heart saying how she fell in love with me tonight and can't wait to spend the next 2 months with me. In my head I was thinking ***** I'm gone in 3 days hahah but I miss her now. I miss it all. I loved Medellin Colombia, it was another level up from DR, for me at least. It's definitely a little rough, so just hold your ground, remember you're a man, and never let another man try to take what is yours. I made a lot of guy friends there too at the clubs, everyone showed me love because I showed them love, respect everyone.

If anyone has any questions, hit me up, you all were a big help with the DR, so now I can help with Colombia!! GO TO Colombia you will not regret it!

Was the First Time at New life today, but didn't liked it.

Tool number 11 (I think Marianna).

The Service was very cold and professional. Like in an German Eros Center.

Only CBJ. For BBBJ She quoted me 50 k tip.

WTF? I get full Service BBFS for that in centro!

The rooms are also nothing special.

Yesterday casa nuevo milenio (or casa Cuba) Was better.

Will I come back?

Hell no!

I leave These to the brothers in the waiting Area who where Talking English loudly, like this would be the US there.

Going back to centro now by feet.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2622892]Colombia is becoming more and more an interesting Country to travel to and will continue to do so, even when SEA opens back up.

People want to See New Things and Colombia is still a bit New and exotic so newbies will continue to come here also.

You Can not stop it or change it, its the Way it is.

I would come here also without SEA closing. The SEA closure made it only faster.

I will also travel to other countries and spoil These markets also LOL. No matter what happens in SEA.

And especially Thailand gets bored for many because its not what its used to be and people will Look out for New mongering Destinations.[/QUOTE]With the exception of a a couple dozen board members who have been coming here over the last decade, and have seen the changes, it's way different than you can possibly imagine being a newbie, with the biggest change occurring when the Venezuelans started showing up. And with you being a newbie, and a street rat to boot, congratulations by the way, lots of guys have dipped their toes in Centro, and have literally run for the hills after getting their feet wet.

Try to imagine if there were literally no other foreigners in Centro, and imagine banging girls who had never banged a foreigner before, or very few, and haven't been poisoned in the sense that they only deal with locals, versus milking foreigners.

This is what I call the "rub" of things as how things have changed in Centro as of recently, that I wish I could better articulate.

My very best experiences in Centro, hands down, have always been with girls with no experience whatsoever with foreigners. This is what I always look for in Centro.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here with many of the board members who have been around awhile.

As far as new guys like you, I totally agree with you that many, after sampling the goods here, will want to return and are already returning.

It's not exactly user friendly here because of the language and how dangerous it can be, but that will not deter everyone.

If anything, with the language and danger issues, hopefully this will help reduce how many newcomers that might want to come here when SEA opens back up fully.

And as I have mentioned before, it's a bygone era, it will never be as it was, and I've accepted that.

[QUOTE=Arthur62;2623071]The DiDi driver told me to avoid el Centro on Sunday, because shops are closed and the place is more dangerous.

Is it really much more dangerous? Are there girls on Sunday? There is no reason to get there if there are no girls.

Gracias.[/QUOTE]I was just there. Very few girls around. Some closed stores.

But its not Worth it because there are Only a few girls.

Maybe I come back in the evening.

But now you don't need to come to centro.

Stay were you are.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2623240]All I have to say is, I am so sad to be home. I am sitting at my house now and just thinking about Medellin. Looking at how much I have invested thinking man I could live there for 30 years off my savings and enjoy my 30's and 40's way more.

Little background, I made a few reports, but to anyone that doesn't know me. I'm 35 Italian in NY area, lots of tats, and love Spanish women. I've been going to Montreal for French girls, and DR the last year for Spanish girls. DR last trip was fun but my friend told me to go to Colombia, he was there for a bachelor party.

I did reading a little nervous because of crime, but booked Medellin. I figured I hold my own in the Bronx, I can hold my own anywhere.

I lined up chicks on tinder and facebook, but it's not needed in Medellin. Stay near Parque Llerras, tons of women, and in my opinion way higher quality than the girls I met in DR. Beautiful light skinned Colombian girls with fat asses. Also have darker skinned too, I love all colors.

Day 1:

I fly in on Halloween, immediately buy my sim card, and meet a contact for my party supplies. Half oz of fire (was ok but not fire compared to my NY standards), 3 g tussi. Also got 3 bottles of henny pure white. Lock everything up in my safe, smoke a L on the balcony while chatting with some facebook bitches, and then I hit parque Lleras because I'm hungry. All that lining up on tinder and facebook went right out the window. Parque Lleras around 11 PM was crowded with bitches in Halloween costumes. I sat down and ate, had such a fat ass waitress, got her whatsapp on the way out. I went into a club, Lleras park, filled with dimes. Started collecting whatsapp, all the girls were IG models, and then they had younger girls too learning how to work the clubs. You could tell who the boss bitches were. I found a couch and they kept coming up to me quoting me 200 K-300 K (ratio is 1 USD for about 3,500 pesos). Anyway now I got about 20 numbers and my line is blowing up, I have a problem where I have too many options. I tell them all I am staying for about 2 months (even though really only 5 days) so they think they can make more in the long run instead of hitting a quick lick.

I'm talking numbers and all of the sudden the waitress text me saying she is off work, I ask her if she wants to grab a drink and smoke, she says sure. We go up to my place drink some she starts dancing, I had sheek louch on, she said no papi and put on some Spanish music. It was def the right move. I'll keep DBLOCK at home. Yoooo this bitches ass was so fat, she said she was 22. I'm stuck at this point, if you ever go to Colombia try tussi, it's like MDMA mixed with coke. I tear it up for about 45 minutes until first leche then we shower and chill. She goes back to work on me waking me back up, I start beating it up again then she squirts all over my bed. I hate that shit cause I got to sleep there. Anyway she lingers for awhile now it's about 7 AM and I'm like yo you got to go I'll call you a uber, want 200 K? She gets mad and says " I'm no prepago" I say ok ok my bad girl, and she doesn't take a dime. I take 2 Xanax and knock myself out, no way I was falling asleep by myself.

Day 2:

I wake up and go walk down calle 10, end up ubering to san diego mall. Yoooooooo so many baddies shopping. I use google translate introducing myself and collecting more whatsapps. I also found a store that sold me Viagra, bought 10 50 MG pills, needed it to balance out the tussi to keep me rock hard LOL go back to the hotel fire up a L and start chatting with some chicks that are trying to stop over. I tell this one Venezuelan chick she can come over if she gives me a good massage and extra tip if she makes me leche twice. (I usually get mad lazy after the first nut) , she agrees to 150 K and tells me 20 min. She shows up lookin bad with a white jump suit on, and has someone with her. I say what's up and point to her friend confused, she uses google translate and says it's her cousin and she thought I was cute too. So I say I only want her, but she say her cousin come along anyway, I say fuck it. We get upstairs smoke, they do some tussi, and start rubbing me down. They admiring my tattoos tell me how sexy I am, trying to make me feel like a king, I love it. Long story short they end up both getting it, and I gave her cousin 100 K, and gave her 300 K, 400 K total (barely 100 USD) they were there for about 3 hours, I had to boot them out. I take a nap and wake up about 9 PM.

I no lie wake up to about 30 messages, I'm like damn man which ***** looks like what, too many options. I message one of my facebook chicks and say I'm going to eat if she hungry. She down meets me at diablo steakhouse. Bro she shows up in tight black skirt with red top, she the devil, bad asf. We eat I ask her if she want to smoke, she says sure, we go back to hotel and smoke. We google translating, I already been talking to her for about a week now. She telling me how she loves me and feels good vibe from me blah blah blah, I'm on this mdma telling her I think I love her too, yo no lie mdma makes me really feel like I be loving them. We drink a little and she says have you been to gustos? I say no we go, mad bitches, I'm like why did I come here with this *****? She hits the bathroom, I grab the bartenders whatsapp. The bartender was nice, I tried to tip her 20,000 peso, and she said no no too much papi. She seems like a really nice girl and sexy. My girl comes back and she says papi lets go back to your room. I bring her back, popped a Viagra on the walk LOL.

Guys starting this moment I started making very bad choices that I regret but at the time seemed right. I go back, smoke a L, and lay in bed telling her she got to put in the work, I'm feeling lazy. She sucking me for about 15 minutes, turns around and dancing over me to reggaeton music. She bad man. Then she lowers herself down turns around looks me in the eyes and slides me inside of her. My mind is saying yo put a condom on, but I just couldn't do it. She was so bad I'm telling you, I never seen chicks like this in DR or Montreal or NY. These bitches are BAD in Colombia. They are on another level. So she riding me, I throw her on all four, watching that ass slapping back, she can feel me about to nut and starts pushing back into me. I end up nutting right in her and she saying papi I love you blah blah blah, I'm thinking fuck what did I just do. Now it's almost 1 AM and she on her phone and says papi my amiga is close, want to chill with her? I say fuck it lets go, and we meet at terraza club. Her friend was badder than her, I'm still amazed by the quality there. Long story short I end up bringing both back to the hotel, we up till almost 6 am chillin, condom was on and off LOL I made bad choices this trip. Again these chicks both trying to sleep in my bed. I tell them ya got to go and give them both 200 K. I dunno why but these girls always trying to sleep over, I can't sleep with them in my room though, trust issues LOL.

Day 3:

Wake up, fire up a L, grab some lunch solo. Chatting with chicks over the phone they all sending me pics trying to chill, the non pro girls are the best to me. The girls from the mall are all over me, I'm sending them apartments that I might pick that are stupid expensive so they thinking this nigga going to pay me. The bartender from the previous night says she is off today and having a little party later if I want to slide through. Everything I read online told me to not go into random taxis, not go to random houses, blah blah blah, I did the opposite. I told her sure I'll link up later with her, shoot me the address. In the mean time I end up telling one of the Instagram hoes to come over and give me a massage (I love massages after smoking a L, great way to start a nap LOL).

She meets me at the hotel, smokes, giving me a good massage. She asks for 300 K, I say 200 K, she say papi I'm not like the normal girls trust me. I say show me why you worth 300 K. This chick puts in work, it's like every one of these girls had the perfect figure, fat ass, slim waist, nice tits. I put a condom on and she riding me but it keeps getting soft so I ask her to finish me with head. She down there for like 30 minutes I'm about to give up and she say papi I want to feel you, and slides me in. I'm in there again making a bad choice, but can't stop myself. I end up pulling out and nutting on her face, give her 300 K, nap time.

Wake up and bartender chick gives me address, it's about 20 minutes from Medellin. I do no research just do some tussi, smoke a L, and hop in a random taxi. 30 minutes later I'm sitting in a house party in Colombia, probably about 8 chicks and 3 dudes. Google translating conversations, it was actually mad work. I got fucked up that night, perfect opportunity for someone to rob me. She telling me how she could tell I was different because I didn't go after the girls in the club, telling me how she likes me blah blah. I end up in her room and she puts on her Halloween outfit asking if I liked, it was a devil outfit. Long story short, I made another bad choice, she sucking me asks if I have condom and I say no didn't even think to bring one, she says she is on the pill and she trusts me. I lay down the pipe for at least 2 hours nutted 2 times in her and then started hitting her ass too. I am laying there watching her slide my dick in her ass wondering why I can't live here. About 5-6 AM, and she says lets sleep. I say I got to get home to let my boy in the hotel which was a lie, so she go outside the room, and some guy at the door then saying he drive me home. No idea who this dude is, but I go with him. Luckily he dropped me off, I break him off some bread, and text her while falling asleep. Did not pay her a dime either.

Day 4:

Wake up, fire a L, eat breakfast. I googled a place called Loutron, supposed to have the baddest girls in the city. So I take a Viagra, do a little tussi, and smoke another L. Get a car ride there and damn it's official. I picked a Brazilian chick was 350 K, expensive, but oh well. She put in all the work, bro I don't even think I sat up, I just laid there. Go back to the hotel, and take a nap. Starting to get irritated with having too many whatsapps, too many conversations, mad work. I smoke and go walk around parque Lleras. All kinds of girls coming up to me, a blonde Colombian girl in a dress stands out to me, I go for it. She tells me she works in the store here, makes sense cause I went in a store to go talk to her LOL. She said they close around 12 and gives me whatsapp. Say no more I go chill, drink, and smoke. I make a bad choice here though and went back to club gusto. I'm leaning against a wall while a girl grinding on me and the bartender sees me and looks upset that I'm chilling with another girl. She starts speaking Spanish to the other girl they getting into it, I say brb bathroom, and dip out. Ain't dealing with that. The girl from the store hits me up saying she doesn't usually date foreigners, I understand, tell her she just so beautiful that I would of regret it if I didn't approach. Long story short I get her to go out with me, back in the hotel she puts in work. But then out of no where I noticed her phone was on against the wall recording the bed. I say wtf? Grab her phone delete everything, she say papi I'm sorry I just really like you. I kick her out because I'm bugged out, why this ***** recording me?

End up having 2 other chicks come through about 30 minutes after, pound them both out and give them each 150 K, back to bed.

Day 5:

Worst day of bad choices. I end up hitting the facebook girl raw again, a 3 some where I couldn't come so I hit them raw too, I just kept taking the condom off this trip, or they did. I think it was because of the tussi and Viagra, just so many bad choices. On calle 10 some guy tried to rob me with his friend outside a pharmacy, one tried to grab my phone and I had a good grip so I pulled it back, other dude came toward me and I rocked him in the jaw. The dude that tried to grab my phone just stood there and we stared each other in the eye and he just started to walk away.

Now it's almost 11 PM my last night there, I'm thinking of all the bad choices, I'm heated too cause of the robbery attempt. My fist hurts too all red, but I think yo I'm here, what am I doing in the hotel. Got one of the mall girls to come over (I personally love girls that are not pros, they put in better work, and fall into love with me so easy, they are less business, because they think I want more than just sex).

She comes over smokes does some tussi drinks and starts putting in work. I end up hitting this chick raw too, I just couldn't stop myself this trip, Colombian women have a curse on me like mind control LOL. I tell her I got to get up early to meet my friend and ask her if she wants to link up tomorrow (I know it's a lie cause I'll be gone) she says of course, she fell in love tonight, and she refuses money too. I say the right shit to these chicks when I got that MDMA in my system LOL So she leaves and I think shit I'm awake, no way I can go back to sleep now. Go hit parque Lleras and grab 2 Colombian chicks that were chatting, they told me 500 K for both of them, I say lets go. Once we start walking some girl asks the girls I'm with something and I dunno wtf they saying. So she says can our other friend come too? I'm with it lets go, so now me and 3 chicks. Get to the hotel and the hotel won't let them in cause of their passports or something, the 2 were ok Colombian but the 1 Venezuelan. I bribe the guy 100 K pesos, and we all upstairs smoking and chillin now. Got one of them dancing one sucking me and the other rubbing my back. I like this shit, smoking a L passing it to them. They all Instagram hoes, the one showing me how she has 1 M followers, like I give a fuck. Same shit happen here though and bad choices. Start with the condom but I couldn't nut so next thing I know I'm hitting them all without it. The bitches are so bad I just couldn't hold my ground on the condom. Had them all bent over popping into each of them, one riding me while the one sucked my balls, so much dirty shit that night.

Now I'm home, thinking why do I not live there? The women I met at the mall, facebook etc. They all have my heart it's crazy. The regular Colombian chicks I can see why people love them, they capture your heart so quick. I want to move there now LOL I broke my sim card in half and threw out my phone before boarding flight home. I know if I kept contact I'd waste so much time texting these bitches. But it was hard to do because I felt a attachment to some of them. The one girl laid there with her head on my heart saying how she fell in love with me tonight and can't wait to spend the next 2 months with me. In my head I was thinking ***** I'm gone in 3 days hahah but I miss her now. I miss it all. I loved Medellin Colombia, it was another level up from DR, for me at least. It's definitely a little rough, so just hold your ground, remember you're a man, and never let another man try to take what is yours. I made a lot of guy friends there too at the clubs, everyone showed me love because I showed them love, respect everyone.

If anyone has any questions, hit me up, you all were a big help with the DR, so now I can help with Colombia!! GO TO Colombia you will not regret it![/QUOTE]One of the best reports I've read bro. Exactly the info I was looking for, so thanks a lot homie. I'm from brooklyn myself, but live in az now. You ever come out this way I got you.

This sounds like a fantasy jaja.

You should get a private account cause I want to message you some shit LOL.

Glad you had fun hermano, what a week.

[QUOTE=ColomboAnthony;2623240]All I have to say is, I am so sad to be home. I am sitting at my house now and just thinking about Medellin. Looking at how much I have invested thinking man I could live there for 30 years off my savings and enjoy my 30's and 40's way more.

Little background, I made a few reports, but to anyone that doesn't know me. I'm 35 Italian in NY area, lots of tats, and love Spanish women. I've been going to Montreal for French girls, and DR the last year for Spanish girls. DR last trip was fun but my friend told me to go to Colombia, he was there for a bachelor party.

I did reading a little nervous because of crime, but booked Medellin. I figured I hold my own in the Bronx, I can hold my own anywhere.

I lined up chicks on tinder and facebook, but it's not needed in Medellin. Stay near Parque Llerras, tons of women, and in my opinion way higher quality than the girls I met in DR. Beautiful light skinned Colombian girls with fat asses. Also have darker skinned too, I love all colors..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2623216]I don't seek out the information but I see it quoted frequently. I saw quite a lot of it during the months of the pandemic lockdown. My impression is it errs on the side of caution and is out of date more often than not.[/QUOTE]They also have a habit of not removing old warnings which are no longer valid.