Ho Chi Minh City - Bars and Clubs

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1724773]Damn man, if this was last week (5-12) you definitely missed a good ladies night at Lush. I was there with my friend and her 2 hot GFs. And there were wall to wall lookers. Including some girls that may have been FLs (I was with my girl so could not check).

I got the same vibe from Vincom, but I could not follow up as I was with my girl (again).

I had an awesome time with her and no regrets. But I'll definitely have to schedule some ME time next time I am in VN.

Stay horny my friend!

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]5/12 is correct. They promoted the event as the "final ladies night" before renovations. I checked out the pics and it seemed to be a crazy night. Wish I was there!

[QUOTE=CarlEarly;1726930]5/12 is correct. They promoted the event as the "final ladies night" before renovations. I checked out the pics and it seemed to be a crazy night. Wish I was there![/QUOTE]Just curious, but are there FLs hang out at Lush? I was with my girl and could no gather intel on this issue.

The quality at Apoc Now was just dreadful IMHO.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1727604]Just curious, but are there FLs hang out at Lush? I was with my girl and could no gather intel on this issue.

The quality at Apoc Now was just dreadful IMHO.[/QUOTE]I've had a few encounters with FLs at Lush. A couple years ago I went a little overboard with bottles. Long story short, I made friends with a bouncer to watch my back, and in exchange allowed him to drink freely from my table. I met a local girl but couldn't quite seal the deal. So I asked the bouncer to bring girls to the table to make her jealous but they were all FLs. Mostly 6's who kept coming back every 15 minutes. Very annoying. Last month, I saw a few FL's by the upstairs ledge. They tend to fly solo. They'll wait til around 1:00 am (when the crowd is drunk) and constantly stare at you.

Agreed. Apoc Now is absolutely horrible. I've heard people say some locals go there but it's 99.9% FLs. Several years ago, it was a great place to start the night. FL's would come through at 11 pm on the dot. By 11:45, I could find at least 3 girls I'd want to bang. I'd use them to warm up my game before hitting the clubs. And if my game was off night after night, I knew I could always go back to Apo as a worst case scenario. Now, you'll be lucky to find a 6 in the crowd.

On my last two trips, I planned to check out Chill Sky Bar but never made it. I've heard a lot of models hang out there. I'm sure plenty of FLs go there too but at least they're better looking than the typical bar scene. Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=CarlEarly;1728620]Agreed. Apoc Now is absolutely horrible. I've heard people say some locals go there but it's 99.9% FLs. Several years ago, it was a great place to start the night. FL's would come through at 11 pm on the dot. By 11:45, I could find at least 3 girls I'd want to bang. I'd use them to warm up my game before hitting the clubs. And if my game was off night after night, I knew I could always go back to Apo as a worst case scenario. Now, you'll be lucky to find a 6 in the crowd.

On my last two trips, I planned to check out Chill Sky Bar but never made it. I've heard a lot of models hang out there. I'm sure plenty of FLs go there too but at least they're better looking than the typical bar scene. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]The problem in Apo is the price they ask nowadays, IMO you can always find a real hottie in the crowd, but when they ask 200, 300usd or more, and they still think they are doing you a favor, it makes me crazy! The best deal around in Apo these days would be 100usd for 1 shot. 2 shots for this price would be fair if the girl has good attitude and service, but almost impossible to negotiate with most of them.

About Chill bar, absolutely not interesting, very Hi class and show off place, yes for sure you will see "models" kind of girls but they will be with rich locals already or you will have to show you are rich spending an insane amount of money for bottles etc. I think it doesn't worth it but if that's your thing and you can afford it then you can give it a try. Air 360 is a better option for sky bar with a nicer atmosphere, more reasonable prices and still nice girls around.

[QUOTE=CarlEarly;1728620]I've had a few encounters with FLs at Lush. A couple years ago I went a little overboard with bottles. Long story short, I made friends with a bouncer to watch my back, and in exchange allowed him to drink freely from my table. I met a local girl but couldn't quite seal the deal. So I asked the bouncer to bring girls to the table to make her jealous but they were all FLs. Mostly 6's who kept coming back every 15 minutes. Very annoying. Last month, I saw a few FL's by the upstairs ledge. They tend to fly solo. They'll wait til around 1:00 am (when the crowd is drunk) and constantly stare at you.

Agreed. Apoc Now is absolutely horrible. I've heard people say some locals go there but it's 99.9% FLs. Several years ago, it was a great place to start the night. FL's would come through at 11 pm on the dot. By 11:45, I could find at least 3 girls I'd want to bang. I'd use them to warm up my game before hitting the clubs. And if my game was off night after night, I knew I could always go back to Apo as a worst case scenario. Now, you'll be lucky to find a 6 in the crowd.

On my last two trips, I planned to check out Chill Sky Bar but never made it. I've heard a lot of models hang out there. I'm sure plenty of FLs go there too but at least they're better looking than the typical bar scene. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]Thanks Carl for your input.

Like I said earlier, I spent most of my trip hanging out with the two Viet girls I met in Singapore and Shanghai. Only had one night alone, which I wasted by going to Apocalypse (I was pretty tired anyway form shagging my babes and really just wanted to take a look at what it was like).

We never made it to Chill Skybar. The one night we wanted to go it was raining pretty hard and It didn't make much sense to check go if there was no view to be enjoyed.

All in all I really like VN. Food, people and the communist / colonial ambiance are amazing. But I didn't' really get a chance to check out the scene as my girls kept me happily busy.

Hey guys,

Wanted to see if anyone here could offer me any help.

I am a Vietnamese american and visit Vietnam once a year to visit some family, but some days I sneak out and try to have some fun.

Some of the most fun I have is going to the Karaoke bars where I I can call girls to come sit with me.

Before I would normally ask the taxi guys if they knew of any hot spots with cute girls and usually at least one or two knew.

However nowadays it seems that no one knows anymore, If anyone knows of any good recommendations for karaoke joints with cute girls, please help a brother out!

Thank you!

I was driving around in the area where so many of the girl bars, the ones we used to call HBT bars back when there was more than one on that street (I think there were 6 or 7 once).

Down at the start of LE Thanh Ton street there was one bar there that was around for a very long time, since probably 2005 or so, called Bin Bin. Recently it had changed its name to something like Moon Night. It was usually one of the best of these kinds of bars, with only 91 HBT being better, at least in terms of your chances of finding hot young girls. Anyway, this place looks like it's closed. Sometimes they get shut down for a while and reopen, so maybe that will happen this time. But the way things have gone the last year or 2, my guess is that it's a goner.

It seems like these bars have lost all their mojo the last few years, with all the police closings. Now the wechat and zalo girls seem to be the #1 way people connect with girls of this type, and that's kind of a pity because that's a purely wham-bam-thankyou-maam type experience, and there's no warm-up time with the girl, which is a huge part of the thrill for some of us. What's more, with the app girls, the pictures you see don't even look much like the girl you meet, so it's just a crap deal for the consumer. And from what I hear, the prices are the same or more than what the girls in the bars were going for.

Bin Bin / Moon Night was the last of these bars where you could go in and have a good chance of connecting with a young hot girl. Maybe those days are over.

I've checked out those other bars. They're mostly small and with mostly ones who really should be retired by now (too old) or else shouldn't be in this line of work (not cute enough). If there's a cute one, it's a surprise. That's no good, you can't go hit all these bars in a night in the unlikely hope you'll run into one hot one eventually in the 3rd or 4th bar you go to.

I haven't been inside these kinds of bars in months, so if anyone has good current info, it'd be good to hear. Maybe there's some bar I don't know about that's blossomed with hot young things recently due to the demise of 91 and Bin Bin.

First of all, many thanks to Wandella for his contributions to the sport in Saigon! Especially the guidance posted 05 Mar 15 and subsequent post yesterday (01 Aug) for which I received with assurance and sadness. . and you know what they say, 'Everything after Bangkok is a disappointment' - I thought I had just been spoilt and lost the mongering touch!

The bars are indeed a disappointment if one wants a quick and assured takeaway. Saigon is not that place (except for Apocalypse Now). It looks as though the girls in bars such as '5', 'The Office', 'Voodoo' are students (with a few sweeties) and 'rinsers' (London term for rinsing the cash out of your wallet) where one would have to invest the time and energy to establish a 'relationship' before any pink is availed.

Apolypse Now always has a few diamonds in the rough. I frequent every weekend and see the same-same faces, a few new faces and the usual entourage of 'hippo-crock-pig' expats and grungy backpacker things. Even the prettier Vietnamese girls, the diamonds in the rough, who have exploited my male weaker side (ie. Accompanied me in the past and allowed me to continue with my addiction to the game!) seem to come back for more. Even staking claim to me being 'their customer' and friend and getting a little spikey when I turn them down in favour of a new girl. The diamonds are pushing the envelope and ask for $200! A few, the real lookers, when compared to the other markets (Abu Dhabi, London) are certainly worth it. But, you can see the trend. The asking price is being pushed up due to 'supply and demand' as there are only a handful of real winners and far too many 'also rans'. Even some of the 'also rans' are trying it on for $200! Except for the real lookers, the also rans are usually gratefully the $100 offered after a little huffing and puffing.

How I wish I had visited Saigon when there were the bars Wandella alluded to in his posts. Ah well, it is what it is!

CTFO (Carry the f*ck on!

Bill.

I wasn't surprised to see this thread start to lose activity. Afterall, the bars in Saigon aren't quite what they used to be. But still, I hoped times would suddenly change in our favor. The magical day someone posts 91 has re-opened! Sadly I don't see that happening but a man can still dream.

Wendella summed it up for me with the "warm-up". There's something about going to a familiar bar, ordering a drink, and anticipating the attention from multiple girls. Whether this attention is genuinely warm (usually followed by lots of touching and kissing) or business-like, you still walked into the bar knowing you had options. And soon, that option would be decided based on which girl convincingly seduces you right there in the bar. Some may argue Apocalypse Now has a plethora of tits, asses, holes, etc. But I personally seek a little more "connection" via instant attraction, which I haven't found at Apo in years. While I've seen one or two gems at Apo, the ratio wasn't favorable enough for me to continue going there, especially when bars like 91 were booming.

Today, it seems like you need lots of cash to even get in the mood to step into a bar and expect a "good time". But I find this challenging, in a positive way. The HBT scene made me somewhat lazy and I knew I had to fix my mentality or else I would start to loathe this city. I once met a girl at Apo around 12 am. It was too early in the night to "pick her" but she was attractive enough to game. Once eye contact was established, I walked towards her. She asked me the generic questions: where I'm from, where I'm staying, are you here on business or holiday, etc. She then mentions money before her name. I immediately go cold on her and begin shifting my attention to other girls. I wasn't trying to make her jealous. I was trying to show her I'm a fun guy and I just lost interest in her. In doing so, I hoped she would slowly become attracted to me. I played random drinking games with a few girls and tossed around a few lame jokes just to get a laugh. Every once in a while I looked over to see if she was watching. On any other night, I would've been drunk in an hour and probably give in to her initial offer. But on this particular night, I was short on cash which luckily affected my drinking habits. I was sober enough to gauge her reaction and every once in a while, even throw a smile or wink in her direction. Naturally, she flirted with other customers but at some point, she would eventually realize she was either going home alone or have a second chance with me. Shortly after, I stood across from her at a table and waited for her to strike up a conversation. She looks in my direction and laughs, but doesn't say a word. I stand firm and wait for her to earn my attention. She makes a pouty gesture with her lips which I thought was cute. Then she starts talking money again. Once a hoe always a hoe. I respond with "I only have half that amount, I'm leaving right now. Meet me outside". I've tried this many times. When it failed, I simply got in a cab and went to a different bar. But this time it worked. And in the cab ride, she let me play with her tits which brought back lots of memories of HBT, particularly 35, 49, and 51.

(In my best dos equis commercial voice). Stay positive my friends.

I receive a message form a girl that working in the bar. She was telling me now there is only 5 bars with hostess in HCM.

Does anyone able to list this 5 Basr? I am coming to HCM next week. I would like to visit his 5 bar and do a comparison.

[QUOTE=DownUnderKeith;1762865]Does anyone able to list this 5 Basr? I am coming to HCM next week. I would like to visit his 5 bar and do a comparison.[/QUOTE]29 Bar on Dong Khoi.

Thien Loc on corner of Hai Ba Truong and Mac Dinh Chi.

Smiley Bar up the street from Apocalypse Now on Thai Van Lung street.

Coconut Bar on Thi Sach near LE Thanh Ton.

There's one that used to be called Little Princess or something like this on Nguyen Sieu near HBT.

I think there's one more still on LE Thanh Ton just before you get to Thai Van Lung.

Go tell your girl there are six, not five.

Just remembered there's one more, on Dong Du street on the same side as the Starbucks.

Seven.

None are much good though.

[QUOTE=DownUnderKeith;1762865]I receive a message form a girl that working in the bar. She was telling me now there is only 5 bars with hostess in HCM.

Does anyone able to list this 5 Basr? I am coming to HCM next week. I would like to visit his 5 bar and do a comparison.[/QUOTE]I went around that area last night. The bar on Dong Du is gone, it is being gutted now. No big loss there.

In the spot where 49 Bar was before, there is now a new "lady bar" called Lounge The High. Strange name, I know. Inside, the place looks fresh and classier than most of the old HBT bars were, but the girls sure did not. Definitely the older and less attractive type at this place, some faces that seemed familiar from bars from days gone by. Also the young bartender was previously the bartender at 91, and I think at Thien Loc before that. And she's not "available". The place looks very new, and so there's hope yet, if they get some new girls in.

Across the street and down an alley was another brand new bar called "Ly Ly", and it's similar to Lounge the High where it's brand new and with some older veteran girls working there. They told me they would be getting new girls in next week.

I looked in at a few other places, including Thien Loc, 29 Dong Khoi and Smile Bar, and none of them looked like they had any young attractive ones. Sometimes when bars close, girls shift to the new ones and you can see nice ones in some formerly bad bars. Not this time. All bad, so far.

I was told by one girl that the bar formerly known as Bin Bin is "gone forever".

I found this place a couple years ago and have been back a couple times whenever I visit HCMC. I'm on this board doing research for my current Taiwan trip but since I'll be in HCMC in a couple days I decided to write this post since I never see any mention of it on here. The last time I was there was last year so I'm doing this by memory and I don't remember the exact prices. Basically on the second floor of the Vien Dong Hotel on PNL there's a spa that gives HJ. I think it was 200 k-300 k for an hour massage but don't quote me on it. I usually tip around the same price as the massage. I've never seen foreigners in here so I'm not sure if it's a local only place. I do all my communications here in Vietnamese.

Basically, when you go up to the second floor the receptionist table is right there. Usually they'll try to sell you the VIP room which includes a shower, sauna, and TV in the room. I've gotten the VIP room a couple times and tried to ask the girl if there was any "extra" in the VIP room but so far I've only gotten the answer that it just includes the shower, sauna, etc. If you don't get the VIP room they'll lead you to a locker room where you undress and put your close in, there's also a plastic bag where you can put your phone and wallet in to take with you, you'll also take the locker key with you. While in the locker room the helper guy will ask you if you're looking for a specific number or if you don't have a number then he'll ask you what kind of girl you want. Next you'll head to the shower area which has curtains, there's also a jacuzzi I think. The next part is a little fuzzy for me since I got the VIP room the last couple times but I think near the shower area there will be a guy that hands you your shorts and robe. After that you'll be lead to your room some how, sorry I forgot the exact details here. Next part is typical, the girl comes in and gives you a massage then finish you off with a HJ.

I usually like coming here because of the convenient location and every girl I've gotten so far have been pretty cute. I usually get the girl's number and text her the next time I want to come to make sure she's available. The last time I was there I was able to talk the girl into agreeing to come to my hotel and stay the night for $200. She was pretty hot so I just threw a number at her to see if she agreed. However, to spend the night she had to ask time off of work and the only day she could do it that week was Friday night. Originally, that this was okay because I thought I was flying out Sunday morning but it turned out I was flying out Saturday morning so I had to cancel the appointment. I was hoping to hit her up again this coming trip but my phone got reset so I lost all my text messages so I don't know who's number is who among my contacts from that place.

[QUOTE=Vodich;1771543]I found this place a couple years ago and have been back a couple times whenever I visit HCMC. I'm on this board doing research for my current Taiwan trip but since I'll be in HCMC in a couple days I decided to write this post since I never see any mention of it on here. The last time I was there was last year so I'm doing this by memory and I don't remember the exact prices. Basically on the second floor of the Vien Dong Hotel on PNL there's a spa that gives HJ. I think it was 200 k-300 k for an hour massage but don't quote me on it. I usually tip around the same price as the massage. I've never seen foreigners in here so I'm not sure if it's a local only place. I do all my communications here in Vietnamese.
[/QUOTE]Sorry, I posted this in the wrong thread. Is there a way to move it?

[QUOTE=Vodich;1771543]I found this place a couple years ago and have been back a couple times whenever I visit HCMC. I'm on this board doing research for my current Taiwan trip but since I'll be in HCMC in a couple days I decided to write this post since I never see any mention of it on here. The last time I was there was last year so I'm doing this by memory and I don't remember the exact prices. Basically on the second floor of the Vien Dong Hotel on PNL there's a spa that gives HJ. I think it was 200 k-300 k for an hour massage but don't quote me on it. I usually tip around the same price as the massage. I've never seen foreigners in here so I'm not sure if it's a local only place. I do all my communications here in Vietnamese.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I realize there are reports of Vien Dong, I just searched in the wrong thread.