Of course the story goes deeper, as the Native Americans didn't accept the legitimacy of these various international treaties, sales, purchases, whatever that are being hammered out here semantically.
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Of course the story goes deeper, as the Native Americans didn't accept the legitimacy of these various international treaties, sales, purchases, whatever that are being hammered out here semantically.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939373]Of course the story goes deeper, as the Native Americans didn't accept the legitimacy of these various international treaties, sales, purchases, whatever that are being hammered out here semantically.[/QUOTE]No they did not. They lost the war. Had to take what the [I]Ke-mo sah-bee[/I] mother fuckers gave them. Does not mean they liked it or accepted it. Even after accepting there fate, the irony of karma returns to kick pale face in the ass.
[I]In 1923, the height of the Osage oil boom, the Osage tribe earned more than $30 million in revenue.[/I]
Google: [B]Osage Indian murders[/B].
THAT is what mother fuckers of privilege do. If you do not have the power to match the aggression of those who would take from you then you are doomed. The mother fuckers of privilege make sure that is the case.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939331]The problem with [B]hate[/B] is that it affects judgement. You see that all throughout Sub's and JustTK's posts.[/QUOTE]That is a typical response to views that are different from theirs when born of privilege and without experiences in diversity of thought. Differences of views, perceptions and opinions are spun as "hate" and then dismissed just as [B]The Villian[/B] has done in the 23 posts he is written in this thread previously.
Neither [B]JustTK[/B] nor I hate the United States of America. We are both just good umpires. We are both calling it way we see it.
[B]History[/B]: [I]Is the study of past events, particularly in human affairs.[/I]. It is written by the victors. But anyone knows that when in a life or death conflict, there is no [I]manifest destiny[/I] no cool and reasoned analysis. There is only the thought of acting in a way that protects and honors the individuals that have entered that conflict with you and getting all of your ass out of it intact.
Mother fuckers of privilege who have never held a gun or faced one don't know what the FUCK they are talking about when it comes to armed conflict. The examples they give are so fucked it makes me realize that it is just theory for them.
When someone fucking shoots at you, the first reaction is not one of hate, is one of WHAT THE FUCK, that mother fucker over there is trying to kill my ass! You don't hate, you just fight back. Only in the aftermath of a victory or at least a successful disengagement from the conflict can you analyze reasons for the actions.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939331] If your position is the US has done some bad shit over the centuries, I won't quarrel with that.[/QUOTE]Then we have reached the only agreement that you will ever get out of me [B]V man[/B].
[I]Polk started out by trying to buy the land. He sent an American diplomat, John Slidell, to Mexico City to offer $30 million for it. But the Mexican government refused to even meet with Slidell. Polk grew frustrated. Determined to acquire the land, he sent American troops to Texas in January of 1846 to provoke the Mexicans into war.[/I]
[URL]https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/grant-mexican-american-war/[/URL]
Before anyone buys into any myths of the Native Americans all sitting in circles crossed legged smoking the peace pipe, do some studies of the warring and brutality, ritual tortures, etc. Of the Aztecs. Some tribes of what is now the present day US shared similar characteristics, warring among themselves. Yet the hyper demonization of Euros persists, and it's self-inflicted by our own biased academics, starting with the New Left in the 60's and 70's. It's the first thing tyrants like Putin picks up ands runs with when we complain about his behavior in Ukraine.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2938881]
What do you mean much?
1. : a great quantity, amount, extent, or degree. She gave away much of what she owned. 2. : something considerable or impressive.
10-15% just doesn't come close. [/QUOTE]I see your on Language police duty again. A sure sign that you have no argument. I can use 'much; when I goddamn please, and certainly to mean 'considerable'. And it can be USD 1-2. 000.000 if I feel it qualifies as 'much'. Its up to me to decide, not you. You try to lay down an objective law on language use yet you use subjective claims like '10-15% just doesn't come close. ' to support your claim. You make urself look stupid Villainy.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2939448]I see your on Language police duty again. A sure sign that you have no argument. I can use 'much; when I goddamn please, and certainly to mean 'considerable'. And it can be USD 1-2. 000.000 if I feel it qualifies as 'much'. Its up to me to decide, not you. You try to lay down an objective law on language use yet you use subjective claims like '10-15% just doesn't come close. ' to support your claim. You make urself look stupid Villainy.[/QUOTE]Talk about looking stupid. Have you looked in the mirror lately?
Why don't you tell the truth? You shot your mouth off and didn't know what you were talking about. Something you do frequently. I happened to know the truth and called you out on it.
The Marshall plan was 85-90% grants and 10-15% loans (some grant money was returned so the percentages are not precise). You chose to write that "much of the monies were loans". Either that was deliberately dishonest or it was borne out of ignorance. Which was it??
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939008][b]I can see why you left the United States.[/b] There really isn't much of a future for someone who can't read, can't handle addition, suffers from conspiracy theories and advocates revisionist history.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939159][B]Why did the The CMDR leave the United States of America?[/B][/QUOTE][QUOTE=Villainy;2939335]I don't care. Does anyone?[/QUOTE]But you do care. That is why you wrote what you did in bold.
All I am doing is:
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939335] correcting your mistakes and misjudgements.[/QUOTE]More importantly, [U]do I care what you think of me?[/U] [B]No, not really[/B]. But I care, when you make a mischaracterization of who I am and my abilities based on the fact that you have never interacted with someone to whom you feel superior because you are man still immersed in the privilege you had while in the United States of America. You are now having an apoplectic fit because I am giving you pushback and will not yield. So, you dismiss my argument as hate and move on to being a Professor of English. GET THE FUCK out of HERE?
Colombia has a gringo monger go home program in full effect. Hope you don't get caught up. No privilege for you over there.
[I]We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness[/I]
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939335]I think that is still true as long as you don't interpret "all men" to mean only the male of the species. What you didn't grasp is that while "all men are created equal" that doesn't even come close to meaning that all men will [B]end up equal[/B]. Native abilities, education and hard-work will separate the wheat from the chaff.[/QUOTE]No mother fucker, the majority of white people believe they are still superior than all others. Otherwise they would not have hyphenated Americans. There are not African Canadians or African French people. They are just Canadians or French. But not in the mother fucking United States of America. Nah, over in that mother fucker we got to identify everyone who is non-white. That is done in order to distract the citizens of the United States of America from the inequities of the current [B]Plutocracy[/B] that runs the United States of America.
[B]Please take your panties off and put on some big boy shorts. I am NOT a pronoun guy. But if you are please give me yours[/B]
[B]All men should have equal opportunity (big tent)[/B] But that is not how it works. Here is how it really works:
[I]The Justice Department sued Donald Trump, his father, Fred, and Trump Management in order to obtain a settlement in which Trump and his father would promise not to discriminate. The case eventually was settled two years later after Trump tried to countersue the Justice Department for $100 million for making false statements. Those allegations were dismissed by the court.[/I]
[URL]https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/495955920/donald-trump-plagued-by-decades-old-housing-discrimination-case[/URL]
[B]The defense rests[/B]
[I]All I do is win, win, win, no matter what (What); Got money on my mind, I can never get enough ('Nough); And every time I step up in the building everybody hands go up; And they stay there (There)[/I] - All I do is Win, [B]DJ Khaled[/B].
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939407]Neither JustTK nor I hate the United States of America. We are both just good umpires. We are both calling it way we see it. [/QUOTE]Now we want to see some officiating regarding the African kings who traded war captives to the British during the Atlantic trade for guns and alcohol. This went on from the 15th up to the 19th century. While you are at it please blow your whistle on the slavery in Africa that still exists to this day. Now you see it, so call it, or you aren't the good umpire that you claim to be.
How do you like me now? Wink.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939008]
I can see why you left the United States. There really isn't much of a future for someone who can't read, can't handle addition, suffers from conspiracy theories and advocates revisionist history.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939481]But you do care. That is why you wrote what you did in bold.[/QUOTE]Nope! My comment was supposition or conjecture which should not be confused with caring.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939481]
So, you dismiss my argument as hate and move on to being a Professor of English. [/QUOTE]I dismiss your arguments because they are wrong and trying to attack the person who points out your multitude of errors doesn't bolster your case. You misquoted one of my sources with respect to Florida and out of context but that was just hot air. The argument was about the Oregon Territory and your response was. 'crickets'.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939481]
Colombia has a gringo monger go home program in full effect. Hope you dont get caught up. [/QUOTE]Au contraire. I fully support that program. I meet a lot of visitors. A few are good guys but most of the rest, well. The sooner they leave the better.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939481]
No mother fucker, the majority of white people believe they are still superior than all others. Otherwise they would not have hyphenated Americans. There are not African Canadians or African French people. They are just Canadians or French. But not in the mother fucking United States of America. Nah, over in that mother fucker we got to identify everyone who is non-white. That is done in order to distract the citizens of the United States of America from the inequities of the current [B]Plutocracy[/B] that runs the United States of America.[/QUOTE]Nah you aren't filled with [B]HATE[/B], Not you. BTW do you know the Choco department of Colombia? Residents of the area are called Afro-Colombianos. Just thought you might like to know that.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939481]
[I]The Justice Department sued Donald Trump, his father, Fred, and Trump Management in order to obtain a settlement in which Trump and his father would promise not to discriminate. The case eventually was settled two years later after Trump tried to countersue the Justice Department for $100 million for making false statements. Those allegations were dismissed by the court.[/I] [/QUOTE]That really isn't a very impressive comment. The Trump family, starting with the draft-dodging grandfather have committed crimes a plenty. Fred (Donald's father) was arrested at a Klu-Klux-Klan rally. The only thing Fred taught Donald was how to cheat his creditors and his contractors.
In fact, let me amend something I said before. All men maybe created equal but they don't end up equal. Native ability, education and hard-work separate the wheat from the chaff. I neglected to mention inheritance. Donald's major accomplishment was being born with a silver spoon.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939481]
[I]All I do is win, win, win, no matter what (What);[/I][/QUOTE]Mostly, all you do is blather on and on and on. You certainly don't know (or understand) history. Perhaps you would do better if you wrote about things you do understand. By the way what would that be??
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939481]
Colombia has a gringo monger go home program in full effect. Hope you don't get caught up. No privilege for you over there. [/QUOTE]Granted the word gringo is used in different ways, but it's worth noting that they don't want passport bros there either. But if he has enough money he has privilege. That's Colombia.
That said, you do yourself no favors living your life in victim mode. Now I expect you to tell us again about your Ivy League education and how rich you are.
How do you like me now?
[B]Paulie97[/B] since you are coming into the conversation very late without doing your home work read this:
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2937227]All the developed nations engage in acts which are heinous but are considered to be in their national interest. When the Prince says hit that mother fucker in broad daylight. All the kings men went into the country and got it done. When Israel says: hit him. You better hope your name is not on that order cause you going to die. When the United States of America finds your ass a drone going to drop a missile trough the roof of your car, fly a cruse missile into your window or Seal Team 6 going to [I]no knock[/I] your door to deliver a personal message from POTUS. [B]That is just the way the world works[/B].
Surely you are not excusing the many nations that came before the United States of America? I am not defending the United States of America. The idea is being proffered that USA is the only one one the world stage coming heinous acts outside of their country is a spurious one. Russia feels they are acting in their own interests right now. If China invades they will be acting in their own interests. We need the Japanese warrior class to return. This time dem boys be on our side. They going to be tearing some mother fuckers up and cuttin heads off!
Besides, USA is still does not support rights in their own country. I can apply to for political asylum from the USA. Because those who look like me are being gunned down in the streets by the Police for [I]reasons[/I]. I fear for my life everyday I am in USA.
But I will argue that you ignore the most powerful forces on the world stage and that is economics. Follow the money. Makes war look like child play. Because war IS about economics.[/QUOTE]Completely nullifies your point.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939495]Now we want to see some officiating regarding the African kings who traded war captives to the British during the Atlantic trade for guns and alcohol. This went on from the 15th up to the 19th century. While you are at it please blow your whistle on the slavery in Africa that still exists to this day. Now you see it, so call it, or you aren't the good umpire that you claim to be.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939505]That said, you do yourself no favors living your life in victim mode. [/QUOTE]What me a victim? Last time you wrote about actually getting pussy in Colombia was March of 2024. I just got my dick sucked here in Pattaya. Sexy Thai girl wound up making me blow a load of splooge in her mouth and went to my bathroom to spit. [B]Holla![/B].
I am only a victim in your mind. Now why don't you focus on hiring prostitutes where ever you happen to be in Colombia and writing a trip / life report rather than hating of people who have Ivy League educations and are rich. [B]LOL[/B]. In that way both you and [B]Villainy[/B] angry old men who for some reason or another choose to spill your vitriol about politics and other issues of your countries of origni in a forum with the purpose of [I]sharing information on having sex with girls[/I]. A little be of debate keeps the mind sharp as man cannot live on pussy alone. But you too take it way too far. Pull up my posting history. I'm talking about pussy all the time.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939505]Now I expect you to tell us again about your Ivy League education and how rich you are.[/QUOTE]I only need to tell you again about my Ivy League education if like a child you need to hear it again before you goto bed. As for being rich you have me confused with your fellow man of privilege [B]Villainy[/B]. I tell people all the time I'm just a poor farang / gringo trying to make it in a Thai / Latin American world.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939495]How do you like me now? Wink.[/QUOTE]I like you even more than before. Like the the car rental company back in the day, you are number #2, you try harder. [B]LOL![/B].
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939505]but it's worth noting that they don't want passport bros there either.[/QUOTE]BTW what is a [B]Passport Bro[/B]? Give me the Colombian government definition and your own, How do you and the Colombian government identify a traveler as such?
[B]Your serve![/B]
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939500]The argument was about the Oregon Territory and your response was. crickets'.[/QUOTE]Your argument not mine. The Oregon Territory was not a purchase. [B]Full Stop![/B].
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939500]Nah you aren't filled with [B]HATE[/B]. Well we have another point of agreement. Because I am not.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939500]Mostly, all you do is blather on and on and on. You certainly don't know (or understand) history. Perhaps you would do better if you wrote about things you do understand. [/QUOTE]Well we are similar to each other in that regard. Except I am not man of privilege as you are.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939500]By the way what would that be??[/QUOTE]I can propose the exact same question as you.
You live in the land full of pussy and yet choose to be an angry old man that spills his vitriol into ISG using his keyboard everyday instead of his seed into a sexy Colombian chica. [B]SMH![/B].
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939450] You chose to write that "much of the monies were loans". Either that was deliberately dishonest or it was borne out of ignorance. Which was it??[/QUOTE]Neither. At pains to repeat myself, 'much' is a subjective word. You cannot dictate how and when I choose to apply that word. I know that 15% of the Marshall Plan was in loans. I also know that a lot of other money was loaned at that time which was not part of the plan. Again "a lot" is subjective, so don't try saying it wasn't.
And in any case, at pains to repeat myself again, you are honing in on a detail, dishonestly IMO since you constantly do it, to avoid addressing the bigger picture, which is that. The rest of the money, the portion that was not loaned. Was conditional - "We will grant you this money as long as you use it to buy our exports". Yep, super-altrusitic! And this is the approach the USA persist with at the IMF and WB, and this is why the South is switching to China since their help is less extortionate.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939500]I dismiss your arguments because they are wrong [/QUOTE]Arguments cannot be wrong. They are only accepted or not accepted. Opinions cannot be wrong. The can only be agreed upon or not agreed upon and they can be changed also.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939500]trying to attack the person who points out your multitude of errors doesn't bolster your case.[/QUOTE]Attacking me in the effort to strengthen your arguments does not help your case. But it does prove the lack of intellectual substance of your arguments illustrated by your attack on [B]JustTK[/B] for use of language. That is some pedantic bullshit!
And stop crying over [B]ad hominem[/B] attacks when you set the tone for our exchanges with this initial response to one of my posts:
[QUOTE=Villainy;2934117]It is fine that you have uninformed opinions, [b]SubHuman[/b][/QUOTE][B]You sir are a mother fucking punch ass girly man passive aggressive *****.[/B]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939575]I am only a victim in your mind. Now why don't you focus on hiring prostitutes where ever you happen to be in Colombia and writing a trip / life report rather than hating of people who have Ivy League educations and are rich.[/QUOTE]Stop jacking off. You aren't an Ivy grad. Own up Sub! Even an affirmative action admission would have graduated with a better understanding of history. Not only are you unable to read and comprehend, you are too lazy to proof-read your own posts. If your arguments were anything other than a manifestation of your prejudices and hatred you would be far more meticulous checking your posts before hitting "upload".
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939575]I only need to tell you again about my Ivy League education if like a child you need to hear it again before you goto bed. As for being rich you have me confused with your fellow man of privilege [B]Villainy[/B]. I tell people all the time I'm just a poor farang / gringo trying to make it in a Thai / Latin American world.[/QUOTE]BTW let me enlighten you on a few other things. Paulie isn't exactly my "bud". We've gone at it more than a few times. His favorite "go-to attack" is to call someone a liar, especially when he gets caught in the contradictions of his own failed memory.
Also, I am neither "rich" nor "priviledged". Well, maybe, but that would require that we had some kind of understanding of how that would be quantified.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939575]I just got my dick sucked here in Pattaya. Sexy Thai girl wound up making me blow a load of splooge in her mouth and went to my bathroom to spit.[/QUOTE]BTW a bit of friendly advice. I will start by saying I haven't spent any time in Thailand (other than a very short visit, long ago) but I had a friend who retired there decades ago.
You might want to be pretty careful about just getting blow jobs from your Thai beauties. There are a lot of ——- how shall I put this delicately —— [I]gorgeous "women"[/I] [B]who aren't configured the way you expect below the belt-line,[/B] if you get my drift.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939505]Granted the word gringo is used in different ways, but it's worth noting that they don't want passport bros there either. But if he has enough money he has privilege. That's Colombia.
That said, you do yourself no favors living your life in victim mode. Now I expect you to tell us again about your Ivy League education and how rich you are.[/QUOTE]American blacks going to Colombia and talking about privilege is one of the most hypocritical things there is. Maybe they should be paying reparations to Colombians. But yeah, SC claiming to be a victim is crazy.
After this, TK does not understand the American experience and how we choose our government, and our government serves (or is supposed to serve) us who pay for it. It is not meant to be altruistic.
In the Mexican American war, Congress, representing the people, decided to go to war. I think he does not he fully understands the history of our government and how we came about with what we did. The colonies got to experiment with government and chose the best. The first Colonial settlements were actually socialist disasters.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939373]Of course the story goes deeper, as the Native Americans didn't accept the legitimacy of these various international treaties, sales, purchases, whatever that are being hammered out here semantically.[/QUOTE]After reading Empire of the Summer Moon, in Texas, the native Americans were stealing, raping, murderous terrorists. Texans worked the land and the Comanches looted them blind. When Mexico did not protect them from the raids, Texans formed their own country and later joined the USA.
And in the Western USA during the war, most people were thrilled to be under American not Mexican rule and the American army had very little resistance.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2939331]He wants to analogize the use of a gun pointed at someone demanding their Rolex in return for $1 dollar. That is a foolish analogy. More apt would be: Two people have guns drawn on each other, one says I want your Rolex for $1, the other says I really like my Rolex but I will sell it to you for $1 but I want your laptop and I will buy it for $2.[/QUOTE]V, this is the only part I object to what you wrote. In the Mexican American war, Mexico through the first punch, and we kicked their ass. It seems to have been swept under the rug but in the Mexican American war, the USA took over Mexico City despite the Mexicans having a huge advantage in troops. We did not put a gun to their hand to get the Rolex. We had everything they fucking owned in our possession and did not have to give them shit. What we did was fair and the territory was not only paid for with money but with the death of thousands of American troops.
There were very few Mexicans living in Arizona, California, New Mexico, and North of the Rio Grande river. In fact, the Mexicans invited Americans in to farm the lands in Texas as a buffer to the frequent Native American raids.
One of the things that colonists learned quickly was the importance of property rights to achieve wealth. If no one owns the land, no one is going to work and farm it, so that concept of no property rights the Native Americans advocate is boneheaded. The problem with the Mexicans is they used to talk the talk but not walk the walk with property rights. The concept that people wanted and chose a government which respected property rights seems to go over the heads of SC and TK.
And the worst was the Mexican prick General Santa Anna. He was in exile in Cuba, told the USA he would broker peace, and the USA provided passage for him to Mexico, and then he led the Mexican troops against us. Fortunately, he got his ass kicked.