Makati

[QUOTE=DafukuSayToMe;2805005]Is everything closed here today and tomorrow? I'm new and first time in Phil. They take the holy week thing pretty serious here I guess.[/QUOTE]You are in a Catholic country? Maundy Thursday and Good Friday, most everything will be closed. Convenience stores and gas stations might be open. Various places will re-open on either Saturday, Sunday, or Monday. Gogo bars will probably be open.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2801712]Sure. No disrespect intended. The whole courtyard from Starbucks thru Havana Cafe to the Cafe / bakery on the opposite corner has been redeveloped. The courtyard is still physically there but the majority of the tenants have changed. You may that find the odd girl but not like before.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Looking for a pic of the courtyard, this is the best I could find.

[QUOTE=DafukuSayToMe;2805005]They take the holy week thing pretty serious here I guess.[/QUOTE]Somewhat: [URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/19/asia/philippines-crucifixion-practice-33rd-year-trnd/index.html[/URL].

Its Good Friday. Enjoy the pics.

Hey, guys,

I see a lot of reviews from bars, but missing experience from Burgos p directly. I assume, that taking girl from street directly, is more cheap, and I believe you can still find options there, no? Why you avoid street freelancers? Because of safety, scams? Should I avoid street freelancers?

[QUOTE=Transporter;2805304]Looking for a pic of the courtyard, this is the best I could find.[/QUOTE]Pics 1-2, from 2021, most of the mall was closed for reconstruction during covid. HC was essentially gone at that point and not coming back.

Pics 3-6, mid 2022, mall reopened, HC gone.

[QUOTE=Flatron1;2805363]Hey, guys,

I see a lot of reviews from bars, but missing experience from Burgos p directly. I assume, that taking girl from street directly, is more cheap, and I believe you can still find options there, no? Why you avoid street freelancers? Because of safety, scams? Should I avoid street freelancers?[/QUOTE]I didn't try to take a streetwalker, but there were certainly many available on a Thursday night. In my book they ranged from 3's to 6's with the odd chance for a 7. I am sure they were much cheaper than the bars, I didn't ask prices but I'd guess 2500 would get it done (less for the ugly ones). Unsafe? Probably not if you take them back to a decent hotel where the security will protect you. But there certainly were lots of transvestites, some were even good looking from 6 feet. So be careful if you have beer goggles on. Most looked of legal age to me, the youngest girls seemed to be the beggars carrying an infant in their arms. Something tells me stay away from them period (if you want to help, donate to a reputable org that knows the deal).

Burgos update. See pics. Older pics are from min-2021, more recent pics are from late 2022 or more recently. Starting from Burgos / Makati Ave.

Pics 1-3) The old Rogues (now O'Reilly's), the old Hollywood (now Bourbon), and the old Bourbon (now Maison).

The other end, Burgos / Luna.

4) Movida bar. Pre-covid was an upscale, eclectic live band resto / bar. The bands changed nightly: Country, reggae, pop, blues, rock, metal, you name it. Pretty good stuff. Closed during Covid and re-opened in late 2021 temporarily. The city closed it at the time for repeatedly staying open after the midnight curfew and serving alcohol during alcohol bans. Open again, but a bouncer said they lost their entertainment bonafides, so no more live band.

5) Lion's Pride. Formerly WowWow bar. Re-opened last year as a gogo, and closed after a few months. Later I saw the door open and a lot of reconstruction. Some kind of moving assembly on the ceiling being installed. I assumed a western-type dry-cleaner. The guard at the time said a restaurant would come soon. Recently the door was open again and all of the old reconstruction had been removed, and its being remodeled *again*. This guard says it will be a bar.

6) The old Horizon and Jools.

7) The updated Horizon / Jools. Apparently will be a "Nightlife Multi-Concept Complex". Whatever that means.

Not pictured is Alibi bar, next to Ringside. The bouncer was outside. I walked in about 10:15 pm. Not a single girl in the joint. Music was playing. No customers. The waitress asked me to sit. I asked where the girls were? "Later. 11 pm maybe. Just you wait". Um, no thanks.

And the Burgos / Durban-Kalayann area.

8) A new place called Marquee, next to Neon Nights disco / gogo. Not sure if Marquee is open yet.

9) Fyre, next to Neon. It started off in June-ish of last year as an odd gogo (like Lion's Pride), with a pool table and 2-5 fuglies who played pool. Not sure if the fuglies were GRO. Later it was re-constructed to make it a nice sports resto with big-screen TV's, and a smoky-glass facia. Now the facia is phantasmagorical.

10) No change. Coyote Ribs / BBQ resto (not a gogo), and gogos V8, Coco Rock, Nautica.

The old / new Ringside was closed when I went by.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2805938]

8) A new place called Marquee, next to Neon Nights disco / gogo. Not sure if Marquee is open yet.

9) Fyre, next to Neon. It started off in June-ish of last year as an odd gogo (like Lion's Pride), with a pool table and 2-5 fuglies who played pool. Not sure if the fuglies were GRO. Later it was re-constructed to make it a nice sports resto with big-screen TV's, and a smoky-glass facia. Now the facia is phantasmagorical.[/QUOTE]Marquee is indeed open, went in a couple of weeks ago. Quality of girls was high, but not my sort of place as girls weren't allowed to be naughty in the bar. A lot of girls moved here from Nautica as they get better looked after by management apparently. However, some are already back at Nautica and some more are moving to Nautica's new location (where Ringside used to be) next week, if it opens on schedule.

Fyre opened this week, went in and it wasn't great. Took a long time to get served, serving girls were all wearing a full-length fireman's coat, not the sexiest attire I've seen. Quality of girls is better than when it was gogo previously, but not by much. Will give it another chance on a normal weekend.

Over Easter weekend 50% of bars were completely shut, those that were open had reduced staffing levels. Went in Coco Rock for first time as a girl with ample charms on the door persuaded us to give it a try. Showed me a great time inside too. Much better night than I expected it to be with the closure of Malls etc on Thursday and Friday, I thought it possible all bars were going to be closed.

[QUOTE=Muttley81;2806608]Marquee is indeed open, went in a couple of weeks ago. Quality of girls was high, but not my sort of place as girls weren't allowed to be naughty in the bar. A lot of girls moved here from Nautica as they get better looked after by management apparently. However, some are already back at Nautica and some more are moving to Nautica's new location (where Ringside used to be) next week, if it opens on schedule.

Fyre opened this week, went in and it wasn't great. Took a long time to get served, serving girls were all wearing a full-length fireman's coat, not the sexiest attire I've seen. Quality of girls is better than when it was gogo previously, but not by much. Will give it another chance on a normal weekend.

Over Easter weekend 50% of bars were completely shut, those that were open had reduced staffing levels. Went in Coco Rock for first time as a girl with ample charms on the door persuaded us to give it a try. Showed me a great time inside too. Much better night than I expected it to be with the closure of Malls etc on Thursday and Friday, I thought it possible all bars were going to be closed.[/QUOTE]Good update.

Depressing pic, of Filling Station, Bottoms, and Cubana Cafe during 2021.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2801712]Sure. No disrespect intended. The whole courtyard from Starbucks thru Havana Cafe to the Cafe / bakery on the opposite corner has been redeveloped. The courtyard is still physically there but the majority of the tenants have changed. You may that find the odd girl but not like before.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I was out at Greenbelt on Tuesday evening meeting some friends for dinner at around 8:30 pm. I walked in from Makati Avenue and made my way towards the Starbucks and Courtyard area where Havana Cafe used to be (now replaced by Wildflour). Even before I get to Starbucks, there are 3-4 cute girls hanging out a few meters from Starbucks on the right hand side where there is. Wall for sitting. They see me, stand up, make eye contact, and flash pretty smiles. I continue walking.

I pass Starbucks and it seemed as if the entire outdoor seating was populated by trannys. The ones in seats closest to the walkway called out and waved trying to get my attention.

Walking beyond Starbucks and the courtyard, where there is more seating by the wall, were several more groups of girls, not as cute as the first group. They position themselves in my path so I have to maneuver around them to keep walking.

When getting to the covered bridge area where you can turn right to go to Greenbelt 5 or go straight ahead to the restaurants, that area had a few more girls who were even more aggressive. One stood up and blocked my path, looking directly into my eyes, smiling, and twirling her hair on her finger.

When you get to Bloom, there are a number of girls there who could be FL. Just saying there was a very unbalanced Female to Male ratio there, and most of the females were there unaccompanied, from the looks of things.

From my quick walk through the area, there were probably 15-20 girls looking for a man, and probably the same number of trannys outside of Starbucks. It doesn't have the same vibe from the Havana Cafe days, but the place was still quite hoping if you are looking to pick up some company for the evening. If it was like this on a Tuesday night, I wonder what a weekend would be like.

[QUOTE=Yuri;2804617]The Going rate at the bars on Burgos Street, Makati is 10,000 Peso.

4000-Bar fine.

5000-Girl, Long or short time depends on the girl.

1000-Bar Drinks.

10,000 PESO.

Very overpriced and over rated. Go to Quezon City to places like Pegasus, Grand Classique bar, or Heatbeat where you will be out 4000 Peso, or Starfleet in Pasay city.

Not worth it. Angeles prices are good.

Warning: Watch out when you are in dimples. The girls are pick pockets there.[/QUOTE]Now prices are lower, I think because 10:1 girls: boys ratio (based on 4 bars).

Burgos street girlie bar prices (rounded), 15th April 2023:

Bar fine - 3500.

Girl price. ST 3000, LT 5000.

Drinks - 150 beer for me, 300 tequila for girl.

Room (provided by bar) - 2000.

So, total spend (2 drinks + bar fine + sex): ST 7000 ($126), LT 9000 ($160).

P.S. Streetwalker prices are same (3-5 k), even for ladyboys.

Following on from WestCoast's excellent post with photos of bars I have created this map for places of interest around Burgos area:

Orange = Pubs.

Purple = Gogo.

Red = Hotels.

Blue = Places to Get Supplies.

Green = Coffee Hangouts.

Google and Apple Maps are both well out of date hence this. By no means covers everything in area, these are my personal recommendations only. All Gogo's are identified whether I recommend them or not. For reviews of bars please see my post history. I have identified when a Gogo is upstairs for those less mobile. O'Reilly's is also upstairs, but I'm honestly not sure if this is Gogo or Pub, or mixture of both.

Will update as things progress, I know a couple of new Gogo's should be open in the next couple of weeks already.

If anyone has info on Halim's please share. I think I went here a couple of years ago, it was upstairs above a tattoo shop. Walked past it a few times since, plenty of nice girls outside restaurant but cannot see a way to go upstairs. Girls from other bars have identified this as the place I went.

[QUOTE=Muttley81;2809442]Following on from WestCoast's excellent post with photos of bars I have created this map for places of interest around Burgos area:

O'Reilly's is also upstairs, but I'm honestly not sure if this is Gogo or Pub, or mixture of both.

[/QUOTE]Great report Muttley81 and WestCoast (as usual).

I visited O'Reilly's a couple of weeks ago and yes, it seems to lack a sense of identity, it replaces Rogues which was fantastic before the pandemic as a Sports / Gogo bar, but O'Reilly's isn't really a Rogues replacement and it isn't really an Irish bar. To qualify the Irish bar statement; any Irish bar should have good drink first and foremost (which I was hoping for), and the problem with Rogues was that the bar itself was a small island bar, with no draft beer facilities due to no space, the renovations that took place was to remove the low catwalk stage, remove the booths and replace them with open seating along with green wall paint and just left the bar just as before, hence the only drink that you get is from bottles / cans.

I visited there with my GF so had to leave after it became apparent that there were a number of freelancers around and they were keen to try and drum up business, so I had to leave.

In fairness to O'Reilly's part of it was still under renovation when I was there, so it may turn out to be a great place in the future, from what I could see it just seemed to have removed the best bits of Rogues and offer nothing new. The doorman said that the unit below O'Reilly's (previously Hollywood I think) was also under renovation and the idea was to open up some sort of mini complex.

[QUOTE=Muttley81;2809442]Following on from WestCoast's excellent post with photos of bars I have created this map for places of interest around Burgos area:

Orange = Pubs.

Purple = Gogo.

Red = Hotels.

Blue = Places to Get Supplies.

Green = Coffee Hangouts



Google and Apple Maps are both well out of date hence this. By no means covers everything in area, these are my personal recommendations only. All Gogo's are identified whether I recommend them or not. For reviews of bars please see my post history. I have identified when a Gogo is upstairs for those less mobile. O'Reilly's is also upstairs, but I'm honestly not sure if this is Gogo or Pub, or mixture of both.

Will update as things progress, I know a couple of new Gogo's should be open in the next couple of weeks already.

If anyone has info on Halim's please share. I think I went here a couple of years ago, it was upstairs above a tattoo shop. Walked past it a few times since, plenty of nice girls outside restaurant but cannot see a way to go upstairs. Girls from other bars have identified this as the place I went.[/QUOTE]Great information, thanks Muttley81.

I am heading to Manila in June and will provide a detailed FR once my trip concludes.

One question if I may;.

Are there any ST hotel room options near Burgos or would you mind sharing which bars offer rooms?

[QUOTE=Zeus78;2811700]Great information, thanks Muttley81.

I am heading to Manila in June and will provide a detailed FR once my trip concludes.

One question if I may;.

Are there any ST hotel room options near Burgos or would you mind sharing which bars offer rooms?[/QUOTE]Lokal Hostel, right in the V8 / Neon Nights / Coco Rock gogo bars area of Burgos St. However you don't enter on Burgos St, you walk thru a breezeway back to Ebro St and walk up to floor 2 or 3 of the hotel for the office to check in. Also at the corner of Burgos / Makati Ave is a Sogo hotel with ST rates. Also a few blocks away in the other direction (across Kalayaan St towards the old Jools gogo bar) is a Red Planet hotel which can be had for about p1500/ night.