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[QUOTE=Gangles; 1545544]Another context.

I am keeping a record of the number of women who I have sexed through my life without a condom, with no recorded STD.[/QUOTE]As a well-educated guy Gangles, I still don't understand your real motives for persisting with your missionary zeal to convince everyone that condoms are unnecessary.

We all know that you have super-human resistance to STDs; you forgot to remind us that you also have had a vasectomy. Not everybody has your resistance, and many guys who are either irresponsible or don't care are still spraying live semen into unwitting girls, no doubt knocking them up and not knowing or caring about it.

I personally know several girls who have had their uteruses removed because of particularly nasty STDS contracted from bare-back warriors. I personally had an STD some 14 years ago, and there is no way I want to repeat that experience. It's condoms for me. Always.

By all means you should go ahead and keep mongering without a condom but don't keep proselytizing to everyone else that they should try it too, particularly those guys who are NOT vasectomised.

Apart from anything else, an intact condom prevents pregnancy. Nobody should try to claim otherwise.

What a great post. I get so sick of reading the same stereotype post of woman in the PH! I've lived and WORKDED (my small biz) there cumulative of 3 years. I think a lot of guys there from the West are skewing the fact about everyone being lazy. That's BS. They're mixing in the wrong circles / places.

If I have one gripe about the women, it's that they don't care about being educated or continuing to learn about the world. Especially bad luck for me in cebu. BUT I get the impression the vast majority in Cebu don't care about this. I do, and it's a challenge in any third world country.

Cheers,

Wander Luster.

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1542988]About 5 years ago, I struck up a communication with a woman in Cherry Blossoms.

She is a maid, working for an upper middle class family. So the only way that we could spend time together was in afternoons. I would stay in a nearby hotel, and she would stop in for a couple of hours each afternoon. Not the ideal situation, but when I first saw her, I was knocked over. Tall, very slim, good looking, reasonable pretty face.

I thought she was not the smartest tool in the shed, but I came to realize that she took a while to understand what I was saying in English.

About a year ago, she sent an email asking for money.

What for?

I need to pay a worker to cut back weeds in my tree plantation. Bugger me. She has 2, 000 trees, furniture grade timber. This is a long-term thinking woman, as the trees take at least 10 years to reach harvestable size and maturity. So I suggested that she spray with herbicide Round-Up. That is what she did.

Then 6 months ago, she asked for money.

What for?

A powered water pump for her rice farm. Bugger me, more production, more income. Wow, no chicken shit here.

She is with me now, and we head off to her farm tomorrow.

Then she mentioned that her brother is a semi professional panning for gold. Pulls about 10 grams per week, but sometimes that amount in a day. About 1500 pesos per gram. Not bad money.

Then she mentions that she has a kind of business buying clothing locally at discount prices, shipping it to her mama in the province, who sells at about 100% markup.

At my stage in life, I am happy for one pop per day. But she expects more, not in a pushy way, she just likes more. I don't know how she does it, but she manages to pull two or three per day. I am gobsmacked. Nothing special, she just does it somehow.

So for all of the punters in ISG land who regale pinays as being lazy, good for nothings, this is more like the real pinay. Smart, hard working, forward thinking.

G[/QUOTE]

Stogis,

I don't know why people recomend Mactan. I had a company in Cebu when I was in my 30s. Matan is not where it's at! Stay in Cebu City. Marriot is good!

WL.

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1542481]After reviewing the Cebu forum I feel maby here also can be worth putting in an "add" even if I know it is not correct. This post is also posted in the Cebu part of ISG (general reports).

Operating a bit under false flag I have allways told I am uninterested in travelling Philippines except from Makati. Even so I have been looking at the J. Ave nightclub down in Cebu and some of them girls are stunning.

For the J. Ave Superclub girls many of them are pictured in the nightclubs own pages and I have did some detective work and found many of them in various datingsites. Any info of the Basement Megaclub in Mango sq as well? Beside J. Ave girls I will also meet normal datingsites girls I have worked for a couple of weeks as I hear that is by far the best bet down in Cebu and not unlike how I operate in Makati (but in Makati area I have start to learn also the more hi so nightlife around there but I can not expect that in Cebu beeing a firsttimer here). Girlie bars etc are not on my interest list, streetwalkers the same but any info on other freelance hangouts are highly appreciated (but I try to read various threads down in the Cebu part of this forum so maby it will come to me eventually)

I guess J. Ave is a big club and most of the girls here consider themself beeing freelancing a hi so venue, am I right? I see some of them girls run into "in a relationship" and "out of relationship" every other day so they must be pretty busy, hehe.

I have not realy had time to browse through Cebu forum so I will not ask to many stupid question and find out later what maby did go wrong if anything. I chose Marriot hotel (looked ok as I found maby Shangri La Mactan a bit far offish) as my base of operations. And for datingsitegirls they have to come to my location as I never travel around to meet these contacts (they get rewarded for their effort anyway). I will look up more information of the Marriots surroundings later (if chances to pull from a shopping mall located close by will be possible as I find mall pick ups fun at times).

I don't want to mention any of the J. Ave girls by name (atleast name they operate under in various sources of online establishments. This not to offend anyone maby thinking they are in committed relationships to them.

But if any of you gents feel free to run in some advices it is highly appreciate (I am not tight in the cash department but if I can I will not try to spoil ladies and ruin the market, not that one bloke can do that, but you know it is debated big time over and over again).[/QUOTE]

Be prepared. The food at Max's Fried Chicken was the culprit. I suspect it was the macaroni salad. Glad I already had someone with me, cause I could not leave my room. Explosive diarrhea and vomiting! The girl went to the store to buy me what they use locally for diarrhea. So. Be prepared for anything. I had food poisoning and FruitNinja was being attacked by a dog!

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1546041]As a well-educated guy Gangles, I still don't understand your real motives for persisting with your missionary zeal to convince everyone that condoms are unnecessary.

We all know that you have super-human resistance to STDs; you forgot to remind us that you also have had a vasectomy. Not everybody has your resistance, and many guys who are either irresponsible or don't care are still spraying live semen into unwitting girls, no doubt knocking them up and not knowing or caring about it.

I personally know several girls who have had their uteruses removed because of particularly nasty STDS contracted from bare-back warriors. I personally had an STD some 14 years ago, and there is no way I want to repeat that experience. It's condoms for me. Always.

By all means you should go ahead and keep mongering without a condom but don't keep proselytizing to everyone else that they should try it too, particularly those guys who are NOT vasectomised.

Apart from anything else, an intact condom prevents pregnancy. Nobody should try to claim otherwise.[/QUOTE]Like Like Like

Yeah, I know, sometimes you get tired of fucking all day and all night. One of my girls had an apartment directly across the street from the mall of Asia (MOA) ; the apartments that are framed in blue, and are within walking distance to the mall. It was a nice little compact studio. Now the roles were reversed. The security there wanted my identification and I had to sign in as a visitor. Anyway, movies are about 220pesos in MOA. Theatres in Robinson's Ermita are really nice also. After one of the movies at MOA we walked past a salon and I figured what the hell. 250pesos for my facial and 350pesos for her facial. Keep them happy.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1546339]Like Like Like[/QUOTE]FF clear your mailbox.

It is full. Cannot PM you.

[quote=mr hawaii;1546134]be prepared. the food at max's fried chicken was the culprit. i suspect it was the macaroni salad. glad i already had someone with me, cause i could not leave my room. explosive diarrhea and vomiting! the girl went to the store to buy me what they use locally for diarrhea. so. be prepared for anything. i had food poisoning and fruitninja was being attacked by a dog![/quote]but like the true roman legionnaires we are it didn't stop us. a speed bump. i'm in my hotel room recuperating from a major bender. had a beautiful vietnamese cutie with me all night but was so drunk and hangover this morning that my performance was sad. this is worst than a dog bite. alas i have her number and will try again after i am back from the dead.

greetings from hcmc. let's do manila again.

Hello,

In my posts on this matter, I am not suggesting that the punters should do as I do.

But what does get up my nose is that governments misrepresent the facts about STDs, and deliberately create misinformation for various reasons.

If you look for hard information about frequency rates of STD in various countries, it is very hard to find. All that you get is a bunch of fluff. Numbers are deliberately distorted for various political objectives. Much of my post grad study was around applied statistics, so I have a bit of a bent in that direction.

So what I am doing is to present some hard fact. When was the last time that you ever got this kind of hard, unadulterated fact? Bare numbers? Probably never.

My posts have nothing to do with pregnancy rates. All that I ever talk about is STD.

For me, nirvana would be for hundreds, or thousands of guys to post their own numbers. Then we could start to do some serious statistical analysis, and begin to challenge the truthfulness of government published numbers.

I have no political motive. It is rarely that the ordinary punter can get hard, unadulterated data. I am certainly not trying to convince anyone to change their current behaviour.

I have no philosophical motive. I have no ideological motive. My motive is truth.

I do not believe that I have any super-human resistance to STD. I think that I am just an ordinary guy.

I sex with the occasional P4P, but rarely. Almost all are women who are potential permanent partners. Which is what I am looking for.

If you look carefully at the photos posted in the PG, you will see that many of the posters are like me, barebackers.

As for your comment that you have known a number of women who have had their uterus removed due to STD. I do not know of any woman who has done this. I had never heard of this situation before. It seems horrible for me, and I will try to follow through to identify which form od STD could lead to this intervention.

For your consideration.

G

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1546041]As a well-educated guy Gangles, I still don't understand your real motives for persisting with your missionary zeal to convince everyone that condoms are unnecessary.

We all know that you have super-human resistance to STDs; you forgot to remind us that you also have had a vasectomy. Not everybody has your resistance, and many guys who are either irresponsible or don't care are still spraying live semen into unwitting girls, no doubt knocking them up and not knowing or caring about it.

I personally know several girls who have had their uteruses removed because of particularly nasty STDS contracted from bare-back warriors. I personally had an STD some 14 years ago, and there is no way I want to repeat that experience. It's condoms for me. Always.

By all means you should go ahead and keep mongering without a condom but don't keep proselytizing to everyone else that they should try it too, particularly those guys who are NOT vasectomised.

Apart from anything else, an intact condom prevents pregnancy. Nobody should try to claim otherwise.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1546558][Snips]All that I ever talk about is STD.

For me, nirvana would be for hundreds, or thousands of guys to post their own numbers. Then we could start to do some serious statistical analysis, and begin to challenge the truthfulness of government published numbers.

I have no philosophical motive. I have no ideological motive. My motive is truth.

I do not believe that I have any super-human resistance to STD. I think that I am just an ordinary guy.[/QUOTE]In an earlier posting [14 July 2013] you said this.

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1445953]There are 2 forms of STI. Those that are bacterian and those that are viral.

You can protect yourself from the bacterial forms (including chlamydia, syphilis, gonorrhea) by taking a combination of doxycyclin, and amoxycillin. I now take these when I am mongering.

Among the viral forms, you can be vaccinated against Hepatitis A and B. I have now had this done.

This combination greatly reduces the risk of contracting STI by barebacking.[/QUOTE]Surely Gangles your facts and figures, STD levels, and truth, may be masked by the fact that you take preventive STD treatments while mongering even if you don't use condoms? You may have negligible STD levels but what would it be without your antibiotic dosing?

KongKing

Agreed. But this is just one more variable in the statistical analysis.

The biggest statistical analysis that I have done had maybe 10,000 variables. This can be done.

But anybody can take the antibiotics. And I assume that those who know about this will take them, it is so easy.

I ask my doc about this, and he says that the medical profession does not want to recommend or prescribe antibiotics because it may lead to progressive loss of effectiveness as organisms evolve to survive against antibiotics.

So it is deliberately kept from the punter.

And that becomes a part of the statistical analysis too. Another variable.

For your consideration.

G

[QUOTE=KongKing; 1546801]In an earlier posting [14 July 2013] you said this.

Surely Gangles your facts and figures, STD levels, and truth, may be masked by the fact that you take preventive STD treatments while mongering even if you don't use condoms? You may have negligible STD levels but what would it be without your antibiotic dosing?

KongKing[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1546558]Hello,

In my posts on this matter, I am not suggesting that the punters should do as I do.

But what does get up my nose is that governments misrepresent the facts about STDs, and deliberately create misinformation for various reasons.

If you look for hard information about frequency rates of STD in various countries, it is very hard to find. All that you get is a bunch of fluff. Numbers are deliberately distorted for various political objectives. Much of my post grad study was around applied statistics, so I have a bit of a bent in that direction.

So what I am doing is to present some hard fact. When was the last time that you ever got this kind of hard, unadulterated fact? Bare numbers? Probably never.

My posts have nothing to do with pregnancy rates. All that I ever talk about is STD.

For me, nirvana would be for hundreds, or thousands of guys to post their own numbers. Then we could start to do some serious statistical analysis, and begin to challenge the truthfulness of government published numbers.[/QUOTE]I'm with Gangles here. I'm also one of those guys that seems to have "super-human resistance to STD" but is really just an ordinary guy. However unlike Gangles I'm not taking any preventive treatments. I'm only vaccinated against Hepatitis A and B (for life). Furthermore I must add that I'm circumcised which has the advantage that I'm less vulnerable to STDs than non-circumcised guys.

Since 2007 I hardly ever use condoms anymore, neither in my home country nor in SE Asia. I have barebacked hundreds of girls (sorry Gangles, I have not counted them) and so far I have only contracted a chlamydia / gonorrhea infection twice. I went to the drug store immediately to buy anti-biotics and a few days later the problem was solved already so it didn't bother me much.

The point is: why should I stop barebacking if I hardly ever catch an STD? And why should I stop barebacking if I hardly encounter any girls that have an STD? (although I'm aware of incubation times and the fact that not all STDs are visible). There are thousands, maybe even tens of thousands, of guys out there in SE Asia barebacking every day. If STDs were really such a big problem as governments and NGOs would like us to believe then all of these guys should catch an STD on a very regular basis. And they would stop barebacking (well, at least 99. 9% of them I suppose) because having an STD all the time is no fun, even when it's "only" the clap.

I get the impression that some people on this forum think that barebackers are reckless and irresponsible guys that catch STDs all the time but don't give a shit. They don't get any treatment and just carry on barebacking and spreading the STDs. I think this is not true. I think the majority of the barebackers are just ordinary guys who hardly ever catch an STD and when they do they get proper treatment and refrain from fucking (or at least barebacking) for a while.

I am don't think I am immune to STD's but since a norwegian UNI girl gave me chlamydia in the early 90'ies I have not had any infections whatsoever. On two occations I have suspected a STD and then I have done the selfmedication on one occation in Manila (zitromax). The other one just vanished as soon as it arrived. Since I am mostly barebacking I check myself on a very regular basis (as not to infect my gf and to stay healthy). No problem so far. If I needed the zitromax or not I don't know as it also vanished quickly. Yes I think I have been lucky but I am known not to choose maby the most hardend girls as I deal with:

1. Regular girls (cheating my gf and these girls are not having many guys if anyone beside me)

2. Datingsitegirls (they cover probably all aspects of girls from p4p girls to girls from province never met a foreign guy before, I think most of them would be something in the middle)

3. Freelancegirls (met in accordingly venues but still from here I tend to get the not so proffesional ones, why this I don't know, it just happens)

What they all have in common are they most likely don't fuck many times a day, maby not even ones a week. Anyway I have not got any STD and that is good enough answer to me that I am rather good in choosing girls with clean pussies.

When I dive in unknown girls anal and pick from MBC or Bangkoks Biergarden I use rubber.

But ofcourse I am aware of the safest thing to do is covering up, I just hate it.

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1546558]Hello,

In my posts on this matter, I am not suggesting that the punters should do as I do.

But what does get up my nose is that governments misrepresent the facts about STDs, and deliberately create misinformation for various reasons.

If you look for hard information about frequency rates of STD in various countries, it is very hard to find. All that you get is a bunch of fluff. Numbers are deliberately distorted for various political objectives. Much of my post grad study was around applied statistics, so I have a bit of a bent in that direction.

So what I am doing is to present some hard fact. When was the last time that you ever got this kind of hard, unadulterated fact? Bare numbers? Probably never.

My posts have nothing to do with pregnancy rates. All that I ever talk about is STD.

For me, nirvana would be for hundreds, or thousands of guys to post their own numbers. Then we could start to do some serious statistical analysis, and begin to challenge the truthfulness of government published numbers.

I have no political motive. It is rarely that the ordinary punter can get hard, unadulterated data. I am certainly not trying to convince anyone to change their current behaviour.

I have no philosophical motive. I have no ideological motive. My motive is truth.

I do not believe that I have any super-human resistance to STD. I think that I am just an ordinary guy.

I sex with the occasional P4P, but rarely. Almost all are women who are potential permanent partners. Which is what I am looking for.

If you look carefully at the photos posted in the PG, you will see that many of the posters are like me, barebackers.

As for your comment that you have known a number of women who have had their uterus removed due to STD. I do not know of any woman who has done this. I had never heard of this situation before. It seems horrible for me, and I will try to follow through to identify which form od STD could lead to this intervention.

For your consideration.

G[/QUOTE]I THINK NOTTT!

When I saw your first post about bbing 300 (?) or whatever number w / out a single STD I thought,"Man this guy doesn't get it". The reason the pussy market is clean is because of fear and the unknown. When you have guys (here / you) on the "top of the mountain" screaming I can do it 300 times and I have no problem w / STDs. What in the world do you think that statement says?

With my high school education I will tell you.

It is a green light for every monger from India, Pakistan, Russia, America, etc to come to the PI and shove their bare dicks in the pussy you have been safely enjoying. The more you spout off about how safe bbing is, the more likely you (OR ME) is going to get unlucky w / some Pakistani Gonorrhea or Korean STD, etc.

This is an international sport, all the wicks are in play but many wicks are covered out of FEAR! This conversation will encourage more to leave the cover off. This info you provide will not help anyone who wants a trouble free vacation. The more bragging about bbing the more likely misery will come our way.

How can you not get this? How??

When I first saw your original post I responded but then changed my mind thinking I don't want to make this a bigger issue but now I see many more singing the praises of barebacking and it's fucking stupid.

Just shut up about it and enjoy what you have. This is what the PM function is for, to exchange sensitive info between friends. Pakistani Gonorrhea is not yours or my friend.

Some THINGS need not be said to the whole fucking world.

LET'S JUST SHUT UP NOW!

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1546889]But anybody can take the antibiotics. And I assume that those who know about this will take them, it is so easy.

I ask my doc about this, and he says that the medical profession does not want to recommend or prescribe antibiotics because it may lead to progressive loss of effectiveness as organisms evolve to survive against antibiotics.[/QUOTE]God, I hate to bite, but I shall. I've been barebacking for over 25 years, since I was 13. One incident of crabs from a Korean girl years ago, which a condom would not have prevented, and a dose of clap here (no discharge and little irritation [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url]), which I reported about on this forum many moons ago. I've never pursued a preventative course of antibiotic meds because the medical professionals are right. Anyway, since the clap is up to 80% non-symptomatic for girls, I know that coming soon enough will be an evolution of super clap, and it'll hit this place hard. During this go of nearly 18 months I've been hit by more flus than ever, and doctors here often prescribe antibiotics, which have no effect whatsoever against a virus other than to further improve the resistance of bacteria. A recipe for disaster.

Though a stupid guy I offer this recommendation: Take care. Socker is completely correct.