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[QUOTE=Optimist;2019181]Iceberg. Girls will start going home from the beginning of next week, as a generalisation.[/QUOTE]Optimist thanks for the answer.
About this BBBJ thing. The question is management of club pushing girls to do it or not? I mean if they do after July they can't do it. Of course noone can come and control you are doing it with condom or without condom in the room but if management pushing girls to do it without condom than they can't do it aftermore. When I consider the girls pressure in the room for cum in mouth in Germany FKK clubs, they are also ok with BBBJ. Noone is pushing them. Also in many places majority of girls not doing it so I am still in side of thinking clubs pressuring them to do it without condom. IMHO. Anyway it is an important pleasure detail for me. I always like to have BJ without condom and with condom I think it is not worth to have anymore. I prefer she give me a HJ without condom instead of CBJ.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2019331]Usually, I go with girls one hour in room as I go with mostly only stunners.
I offer her one hour with BBBJ and sex and DFK.
Or.
I just go 30 min 50 euro banging session, hardcore doggy style that will blow her back to her fucking farm land she came from.[/QUOTE]Since you're not a frugal guy like I am, I think you'll have no problem getting what you want. Money talks anyway.
For me, the very first idea that draws me to Germany is the deal that one can get DFK, BBBJ, DATY, covered sex in many positions, etc everything within 30 minutes, and costs only one 50-Euro banknote.
In where I'm from, a 15-minute quick suck and fuck with street prostitutes cost almost the same. DFK and DATY is completely impossible to get.
Again, I like to take analogies by food.
It's like in where I'm from, I only get a burger and fries on the street, and this costs me 5 Euros.
But, in German FKK Sauna clubs, I can get a burger, fries, chicken pies, and coke with the same price, in a great spa sauna environment.
So, being able to get everything within 30 minutes less than 50 Euros is somehow my very first motivation to visit German FKK Sauna clubs.
Sometimes I succeeded and get good sessions, but sometimes not so lucky and get some bad sessions.
Now, with the new law banning BBBJ, and with many girls stop offering DFK for a basic 50-Euro session, I may have to re-check whether it is worthwhile to travel over 12+ hours to Germany.
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There's no need to push the girls to CIM as there is a 25/50€ price tag to it. BBBJ itself doesn't get the girls more money.
From July the clubs will probably be interested that the girls are complying to the new law as they don't want any trouble with the authorities.
HB.
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[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2019599]Since you're not a frugal guy like I am, I think you'll have no problem getting what you want. Money talks anyway.
For me, the very first idea that draws me to Germany is the deal that one can get DFK, BBBJ, DATY, covered sex in many positions, etc everything within 30 minutes, and costs only one 50-Euro banknote.
In where I'm from, a 15-minute quick suck and fuck with street prostitutes cost almost the same. DFK and DATY is completely impossible to get.
Again, I like to take analogies by food.
It's like in where I'm from, I only get a burger and fries on the street, and this costs me 5 Euros.
But, in German FKK Sauna clubs, I can get a burger, fries, chicken pies, and coke with the same price, in a great spa sauna environment.
So, being able to get everything within 30 minutes less than 50 Euros is somehow my very first motivation to visit German FKK Sauna clubs..[/QUOTE]Frugal, hmmm I do care about cost performance, but I do not push her to do everything for 50 euro as most of times, it is not possible, I mean 50 euro is really low priced.
So I try to be fair on girls, in return that she treat me fair in room and do everything LOL.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;2019610]There's no need to push the girls to CIM as there is a 25/50 price tag to it. BBBJ itself doesn't get the girls more money.
From July the clubs will probably be interested that the girls are complying to the new law as they don't want any trouble with the authorities.
HB.[/QUOTE]I feel club will remain letting girls decide as that was the original problem with authority.
Plus I do not think club will do things to themselves that hurt their business or make us go else where LOL.
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Time to introduce a new brand of condoms. So thin that they break every time. I see market potentials...
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2019717]Time to introduce a new brand of condoms. So thin that they break every time. I see market potentials...[/QUOTE]Sagami is the thinnest, but it won't break and for me it wont fit LOL They need XL not L, long enough, but too thin for me.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2019717]Time to introduce a new brand of condoms. So thin that they break every time. I see market potentials...[/QUOTE]On the similar topic, Bill gates was giving one million award for new generation condom invention.
Richest guy in the world seems to have same problem as we mongers do LOL.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2019405]Same here, and I usually want anal. So if a girl is down with that, then she knows she's already at 200 euros for the session right off the bat. Throw in BBBJ / CIM and she's at 250. Now in Hamburg, if you added it all up without any discounts, then you're talking 300. My strategy was to offer a "packaged price" of 250 euros, and I found it was hard for the girls to turn that money down. They could take 250 versus 300, or watch me walk away and get nothing. They chose to take the 250 almost every single time. So, at least I was able to keep the price at what I would pay at most Big 5 Hessen clubs. Yes, that's still higher than in the NRW, but I haven't been an NRW monger, so my reference point was Hesse.[/QUOTE]Well I will do that but with 100 euro, not 200 euro, but I understand that you are ass man LOL.
Something like this seems to sound like a only strategy we can apply.
As for girls, they can choose longer session more money given that they give good service or they can get hard doggy pounding quick session which I will treat them like a dog for just 50 euro damage on my side LOL.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2019429]But in Switzerland, girls won't even look at you, for 50. Austria is often 70/30 mn.[/QUOTE]In Austria, in general if you offer just 70 euro instead of 60 euro, you can get better service? If so that sound good to me LOL.
The point I am making is that, if I have to pay 150 euro for one hour which is like 45 minutes because they always try to cheat you with time and you have to negotiate hard for it. , then for me the price and hassle get too close with price range of globe zurich which is 140 chf for 30 minutes, but there service is guaranteed and 30 minutes is 30 minutes, no negotiation is needed, so it is better off for me to get that in Zurich than trying so hard that is turn off and stress in Germany after July.
If girls do not provide DFK and BBBJ after July for longer session I offer in German FKK after July then all they will get from me is just 50 euro quick band session which I will suck their nipple off LOL.
And for all package I will fly into Zurich for one night sleep and two days full FKK session and use German FKK as quick bang which I will suck their nipple off LOL.
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Best music in FKK
I never thought or cared about music in FKK, beside I noticed it really bad, but since there were guys who discussed about it, I gave a thought about it.
My appropriate music for FKK is only three music.
First is some kind of psycho like classical music that remind you of the movie American psycho.
Second choice is definitely nine inch nails. Like the song of anal sex scene of the girl with dragon tattoo.
Third choice is marilyn manson.
I want music that get me in mood of sexual monster and all above three will do and not this corny edm music they play in FKK.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2019717]Time to introduce a new brand of condoms. So thin that they break every time. I see market potentials...[/QUOTE]I say a brand of condom that is made of food and can be eaten and digested by humans will be a hot deal.
BJ will be like eating candies for the girls.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2019717]Time to introduce a new brand of condoms. So thin that they break every time. I see market potentials...[/QUOTE]The Emperor's New Gummi.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2019800]The Emperor's New Gummi.[/QUOTE]So according brothers grimm fairy tale only smart people can see it, for the stupid ones its invisible and bc no one wants to be stupid everybody can see it.
Best invention in 2017! And kids aren't allowed at clubs to destroy the story. LOL
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2019736]In Austria, in general if you offer just 70 euro instead of 60 euro, you can get better service? If so that sound good to me LOL.
The point I am making is that, if I have to pay 150 euro for one hour which is like 45 minutes because they always try to cheat you with time and you have to negotiate hard for it. , then for me the price and hassle get too close with price range of globe zurich which is 140 chf for 30 minutes, but there service is guaranteed and 30 minutes is 30 minutes, no negotiation is needed, so it is better off for me to get that in Zurich than trying so hard that is turn off and stress in Germany after July.
If girls do not provide DFK and BBBJ after July for longer session I offer in German FKK after July then all they will get from me is just 50 euro quick band session which I will suck their nipple off LOL.
And for all package I will fly into Zurich for one night sleep and two days full FKK session and use German FKK as quick bang which I will suck their nipple off LOL.[/QUOTE]We'll soon find out what change takes place.
Austria club prices vary. GT is 60 increments of 30 minutes or extras. By the boarder Wellcum and Andiamo are 10 more, 70 per half. Issue for me is entry pricing and the distancing of Villlach to Wien. Steep. 85-90 is higher than my threshold. I also hop clubs and man those entry prices. In De there are many clubs(depending on the region, Artemis don't count), so they offer specials. Both A and W have great new facilities and food, but Wellcum is something else. The best I've encountered. Globe facilities isn't anything special.
And Babylon, it down right ridiculous! We got Victoria's secret girls in that joint?
The boarder clubs in NL is 50 like in De. SixSens and Yin Yang. The pricing reflects in staying competitive as it on the boarder.
Globe keeps a tight standard, so shorting on time probably not much of an occurrence. Especially given the rate is so high, girls running into somebody like Siri would be a jackpot! Sounds to me like the service is guaranteed for that amount is what works for some guys, but for guys wanting an in house escort for long duration, kill the Wallet, not a comparison to other clubs in De and the above I mentioned.