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[QUOTE=Spotted Dick;1476927]Anybody interested in a visit to a "full salon" PM me. My buddies have all left town; need new buddies. I'm white expat, 44, fluent in Korean and have a regular place. But we could go to any of a number of good places.[/QUOTE]Spotted Dick I will be free in Seoul for two days from this Sunday till Monday 30/09 interested but not sure full salon how much cost and service? Can you tell me more?

So, this is my first report. But I have now experienced 3 of the RLDs and want to give me input.

Although disclaimer is my experience is probably very different because of my background as I have read.

I'm a low 20s Gyopo with limited Korean skills, but know enough Korean to explain I'm a gyopo, etc.

Anyway, I have gone to Itaewon. 588, and Cheonho. This is my preference from best to worst:

1. Cheonho.

2. Itaewon.

3. 588.

The reason why I put 588 last is it does not compare to Cheonho. Sure it's more famous, but I maybe it's just me, but I didn't have the best experience. First off the girls are a lot less friendly. Very few have their doors open. They simply are sitting in their chairs looking out. If they see you they don't really try to get you to come to them. Maybe that's not a problem for others, but I like it when the girl is at least calling you or trying to get your attention to come visit her. Also the girl I chose was super mechanical (luck of the draw I know) , but it just wasn't the best experience. It was short time but I couldn't finish and she stopped the session right at 20 minutes (some do, but only experienced it at 588.) Although it has by far the largest number of "shops".

Itaewon despite looking incredibly shady and seedy was not a bad experience. Although it does feel like you might get mugged at any moment and I don't really like the bar set up. And the price. I dislike the price. But the experience wasn't bad. As I said before I like it when the girls are trying to get you and well one girl was super aggressive (which I liked). She literally came out of her bar and took my arm and led me in. I love that initiative. She was a looker especially for the Hill, which helped. And the session never felt rushed. And her English skills was another plus. I would go to the Hill more often if it wasn't for how shady it looks at night and the cost when I can get it for cheaper at Cheonho. 100,000won isn't terrible. But getting it for only 70,000 won is better.

I love Cheonho. I have never had a bad experience. The worst experience was when I picked a real mechanical girl, but even then it wasn't rushed. We both knew I went over my time but she let me finish unlike the one in 588. In fact I think I've gone over my time almost every time in Cheonho but they have always let me finish. But one thing I really like about Cheonho is that the girls (almost all of them) will come to their door and call out to you and let you get a good look at them. I think it might be different because I'm gyopo, but it also helps me choose a girl. I like to pick a girl who is calling and stands up to walk to the door. Usually for me at least, those have been the best ones.

And I have a favorite there now who treats me like a king. Complete GFE. I actually saw her tonight and boy was it great. Draining me of my money seeing her, but the experience is too good to pass up. But she's my secret.

But yeah that's all for my first report.

[QUOTE=ILoveThailand; 1476757]Hello all,

Just ordered my membership but I guess it takes a day to process?

I'm mid 20-White guy from Canada heading to Korea for couple days then off to Thailand.

I've been reading a lot of posts and getting tons of useful information but was wondering about hotels?

Anyway know if the IP Boutique hotel in Itawon is a good spot and close to the action? 737-32, Hannam-dong, Yongsan-gu.

I'll be arriving November 5th and price isn't much of an issue, I'm also very familiar with transit systems all over Asia.

Thanks!

I will roam around aimlessly once I arrive and provide very detailed reports, I'm just hoping for a good sweet spot hotel. I will reciprocate to this whole forum my experiences after my trip.[/QUOTE]IPC isn't too far from the Itaewon dubwsy stations, about midway between them, and almost zcross the street from the back of the outdoor stairs to the top of Hooker Hill. Haven't been inside, but a former friend reported the rooms as do-so. Another possibility in the 'ville is the D'Oro. Its oser to the main Itaewon subway station and right across the street from the main entrance to Hooker Hill. Rooms are quite nice, cheaper than IPC and it's girl-friendly (it's a glorified love hotel, but not having hot sheet turn-over, so perfectly quiet, etc.

I went to Dallas a few weeks ago and it was a total disaster. The SP, and I'm using the term very loosely, was old (50+) with an attitude and no service quality. The one good thing about the place is that the mamasan can communicate in English. I should've just left. Oh well, lesson learned and soon thereafter applied!

On recent walkabout in the gangnam area I found tons of massage places. It's very easy to find if you look for the spinning poles or even better if you can recognize the word ma-sa-ji in korean. Just walk in and ask how much but always be ready to leave. There's no lack of places that accept foreigners in the area so no need to make the same mistake I did!

Back to the walkabout, I checked out a couple of places randomly. Some turned out to be massage only, some had old SPs. There was one though with a particularly friendly mamasan. After I showered and everything, another old SP entered the room so I left. The mamadan however said a young girl will join in a couple of weeks. I'll post once I confirm.

I ended up at Massage Red (Red Massage?) near nonhyun station. Cool place for the price (130k but felt it could be negotiated down a bit). The SP showers you and sort of showers with you. Next it's back to the room for a back massage (above average) , then the flip and straight to nipple sucking, BBBJ (which was good but kind of brief) , cover on and cow girl, mish and after quick persuasion doggy for the finish.

SP: early 40s, forgot the name, Chinese (she says). Average body & face but nice attitude, joking and having fun with it.

Body: 5, Face: 5, Attitude: 8.

Directions:

- nonhyun stn exit #2.

- Keep walking straight.

- The place will be on your left between the 2nd and 3rd intersections.

- The building has U+ store and it's right in front of a bus station and the stairs pedestrian tunnel. You won't miss the red sign that says "RED".

I had been there few years back. But I had to admit. This was the toughest place for me to monger in entire Asia.

I tried many avenues but all ended up in failure. The choices if you are a foreigner is so damn limited that we end up either paying overpriced escorts like Sarah Miehn or get a pathetic lady. I wish Seoul had some good pickup bars with foreign chicks.

[QUOTE=MayanKanand; 1480027]I had been there few years back. But I had to admit. This was the toughest place for me to monger in entire Asia.

I tried many avenues but all ended up in failure. The choices if you are a foreigner is so damn limited that we end up either paying overpriced escorts like Sarah Miehn or get a pathetic lady. I wish Seoul had some good pickup bars with foreign chicks.[/QUOTE]Unfortunate to hear you say that. I guess I've been lucky since I can go 5 mins from my house to Dongducheon RLD, which is probably the most foreigner friendly RLD. No working girls turn you down because ALL customers there are foreigners, or probably 90.

I go on the train 50 mins to 588 and anytime I've had half-dozen to a dozen girls that would take me. Granted, they range from 3's to 7's, but occasionally I've gotten lucky with a 9 as I've mentioned several times. Girls off A-row are the best bet and I've usually gone during the day.

After that Itaewon is a favorite spot. All the girls take foreigners, the price can be a little high, but if you negotiate it can be down to RLD prices- with short time like RLD. It depends on what you want, how long you want it for, and what time of the day or week you go. I usually go for 70, 000-80, 000 won RLD style. Sometimes I pay out 100, 000 for some girls I'd like to try- Soo-Ae or the girl at Ambrosia (other than Soo-Ae).

Again, it can be difficult outside of these locales if you don't know Korea. Not a fan of Anma or massage- pay $150 for a girl I can't choose, no thanks, it's never ended up good for me. Nothing new to post here, really. Hope your luck changes, YMMV.

[QUOTE=Garthie1; 1480076]Unfortunate to hear you say that. I guess I've been lucky since I can go 5 mins from my house to Dongducheon RLD, which is probably the most foreigner friendly RLD. No working girls turn you down because ALL customers there are foreigners, or probably 90.

I go on the train 50 mins to 588 and anytime I've had half-dozen to a dozen girls that would take me. Granted, they range from 3's to 7's, but occasionally I've gotten lucky with a 9 as I've mentioned several times. Girls off A-row are the best bet and I've usually gone during the day.

After that Itaewon is a favorite spot. All the girls take foreigners, the price can be a little high, but if you negotiate it can be down to RLD prices- with short time like RLD. It depends on what you want, how long you want it for, and what time of the day or week you go. I usually go for 70, 000-80, 000 won RLD style. Sometimes I pay out 100, 000 for some girls I'd like to try- Soo-Ae or the girl at Ambrosia (other than Soo-Ae).

Again, it can be difficult outside of these locales if you don't know Korea. Not a fan of Anma or massage- pay $150 for a girl I can't choose, no thanks, it's never ended up good for me. Nothing new to post here, really. Hope your luck changes, YMMV.[/QUOTE]Well, I have a trip planned this December. Would like to try again!

[QUOTE]After that Itaewon is a favorite spot. All the girls take foreigners, the price can be a little high, but if you negotiate it can be down to RLD prices- with short time like RLD. It depends on what you want, how long you want it for, and what time of the day or week you go. I usually go for 70, 000-80, 000 won RLD style. Sometimes I pay out 100, 000 for some girls I'd like to try- Soo-Ae or the girl at Ambrosia (other than Soo-Ae).[/QUOTE]Good luck with that. Soo-Ae is no longer there (and not to be had for that price, except maybe for very short time if she's feeling charitable. And the other one is an ugly drunk, ie ugly, a drunk and a very unpleasant drunk.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior;1481047]Good luck with that. Soo-Ae is no longer there (and not to be had for that price, except maybe for very short time if she's feeling charitable. And the other one is an ugly drunk, ie ugly, a drunk and a very unpleasant drunk.[/QUOTE]The girl at Ambrosia was pretty good to me the last time I went, about a year ago. I've only been there twice and the first time I paid about 70, 000- 80, 000 won. She was real hurried, pushy and not a real good time. A couple years went by, I'd always stop by and offer 70, 000 won and she'd show me the door. Eventually she wouldn't let me in. Finally, I broke down and the next time I went I paid 100, 000 won. It was much better, she was nice and we had a nice time, not lasting too long, but still nice. I think she's the same girl that still works there now, not sure though. The girl I'm talking about was pretty tall, about 175 cm, and had a nice handful of ass. Nice body, not too fat, definitely not skinny. Her boobs were about a be or so and she had curly hair about mid-back.

Soo-Ae would ask for a lot of money, but I wasn't interested in paying that much. I was, however, interested in seeing her tits and after a 20, 000 won drink she'd take her clothes off and I couldn't help myself. I've only frequented her a couple of times, both for 100, 000 won and short time 15 mins or so. The first time was a nice experience, she let me DATY and she really acted well or enjoyed it (neither of which matters to me). After that, CFS, which she also acted well or enjoyed it (again, neither of which mattered). I had a good experience. The second time wasn't as fun and I got the feeling that the act was wearing off. Her tits were sagging a little more and I wasn't into it as much. We finished and that was that. She's hot and a nice girl, but I didn't go back for FS. I think I stopped by a couple of times and paid 20, 000 won to see her get naked, which was worth it.

[QUOTE=Garthie1; 1481096]The girl at Ambrosia was pretty good to me the last time I went, about a year ago. I've only been there twice and the first time I paid about 70, 000- 80, 000 won. She was real hurried, pushy and not a real good time. A couple years went by, I'd always stop by and offer 70, 000 won and she'd show me the door. Eventually she wouldn't let me in. Finally, I broke down and the next time I went I paid 100, 000 won. It was much better, she was nice and we had a nice time, not lasting too long, but still nice. I think she's the same girl that still works there now, not sure though. The girl I'm talking about was pretty tall, about 175 cm, and had a nice handful of ass. Nice body, not too fat, definitely not skinny. Her boobs were about a be or so and she had curly hair about mid-back.

Soo-Ae would ask for a lot of money, but I wasn't interested in paying that much. I was, however, interested in seeing her tits and after a 20, 000 won drink she'd take her clothes off and I couldn't help myself. I've only frequented her a couple of times, both for 100, 000 won and short time 15 mins or so. The first time was a nice experience, she let me DATY and she really acted well or enjoyed it (neither of which matters to me). After that, CFS, which she also acted well or enjoyed it (again, neither of which mattered). I had a good experience. The second time wasn't as fun and I got the feeling that the act iwas wearing off. Her tits were sagging a little more and I wasn't into it as much. We finished and that was that. She's hot and a nice girl, but I didn't go back for FS. I think I stopped by a couple of times and paid 20, 000 won to see her get naked, which was worth it.[/QUOTE]The other girl about whom you are talkin is "Sara". She is long gone and out of the game. And you've just confirmed what I was saying about Soo-Ae's price point.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior;1481123]The other girl about whom you are talkin is "Sara". She is long gone and out of the game. And you've just confirmed what I was saying about Soo-Ae's price point.[/QUOTE]What I really mean to say is that if one is going to toss out pricing information it's critically important to indicate the allotted time (and the scope of activity)(which you - finally re SooAe - did do in your latest post). Otherwise it's extremely misleading.

On the merits, To each his own, but afaiac 100k for a mere 15 minutes is a very expensive lot of next to nothing - it's barely a teaser, not even an appetizer - while as much as 300k for a 1 hour+ Five course performance from a provider of first caliber is worthwhile value.

Hello everyone,

Long time lurker here who has been in Korea for several years. One thing that I think many are missing out on that I haven't seen being mentioned yet is the smartphone apps method. The only downside to this method is that you'd have to know Korean, but finding someone to do it for you is not hard at all. It is just like any other callgirl method (give name of girl, how long, where to meet) , except if you are a first-timer you need to send a deposit first (don't worry, they don't run off with your money. And repeat customers get lots of extra service).

Here is one that I'll post up for you. Her name is DaEun

150k for 6 hours (always got short and she usually left after 4 hours)

250k for 12 hours.

Is willing to go no condom & anal.

First time customers need to put in 100k deposit first (which you can just subtract from what you order)

First pic is of the real her (didn't allow any face shots or lower body).

[QUOTE=MrAnonymouss1; 1481265]Hello everyone,

Long time lurker here who has been in Korea for several years. One thing that I think many are missing out on that I haven't seen being mentioned yet is the smartphone apps method. The only downside to this method is that you'd have to know Korean, but finding someone to do it for you is not hard at all. It is just like any other callgirl method (give name of girl, how long, where to meet) , except if you are a first-timer you need to send a deposit first (don't worry, they don't run off with your money. And repeat customers get lots of extra service).

Here is one that I'll post up for you. Her name is DaEun

150k for 6 hours (always got short and she usually left after 4 hours)

250k for 12 hours.

Is willing to go no condom & anal.

First time customers need to put in 100k deposit first (which you can just subtract from what you order)

First pic is of the real her (didn't allow any face shots or lower body).[/QUOTE]Very interesting and potentially useful. I wouldn't want to ask Koreans I know about the Apps, let alone help make arrangments. Too much risk of complications, and anyway I have enough korean to manage on my own.

But it would be useful to have links to the Apps. Assuming Jackson allows it here. Otherwise this is pretty much a dead end.

[QUOTE=MrAnonymouss1;1481265]First pic is of the real her (didn't allow any face shots or lower body).[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting and sharing your experience with the Korean app. Good to hear that the deposit doesn't just get blown.

Can you share the name of the app you use?

Re the photos: if only the first pic is of the real girl, why post the others? Aren't you really saying that, as those who have used the escort services have already experienced, the goods are never the same as advertised?

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior;1481047]Good luck with that. Soo-Ae is no longer there (and not to be had for that price, except maybe for very short time if she's feeling charitable. And the other one is an ugly drunk, ie ugly, a drunk and a very unpleasant drunk.[/QUOTE]Is Soo-ae out of the game or just no longer at Ambrosia?