Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1185350]Big ups and respect to Lucky Eddie and HeatLover, spot on analysis; I'd like to add my two cents.

BBBJ = "Propina Buena Para mi?" is the norm now, like Heat said; times have changed but it's still possible to get a rocking BBBJ if you fellas use your heads (the big one up north). Be clean, trim the hedge, and be nice! If you're junk looks like a lost ruins covered by jungle over growth no girl foreign or domestic, pro or civilian is going to want to put that gross thing in her mouth. Have you ever been at a baseball game or fair and said "Hey that food on that cart looks like shit and smells even worse. I'll take two!" Well same idea applies, just because you're paying this chick doesn't mean she has to like it (BBBJ) at first but you can help her get there. Also go visit the same girl 2 o 3 times, build a report with a girl, BE NICE to her not stupid;"Play the Game. Don't get played"

ANAL=? What? Where? Lack of words for the original poster who said that Anal was common place, this is just not true in Colombia. In Argentina "Servicio Completo" was an extra $15 all over Colombia I've had girls get all WIDE-EYED with shock-and-fear when I've even mentioned it. I've had the opportunity to slip in a finer but thats about it and a few times it was like a record scratching; action stopped cold and I was yelled at for doing what I did. Jajajaj Stink Finger!

NON-PROS= Do your homework, Online dating profile, facebook holla, learn the language, be cool, DON'T be cheap! Can't' stress the cheap thing enough. If you're in shape, age appropriate, and a cool guy you should have no problem meeting girls. Like HeatLover said "If you're not getting laid in your home country what makes you think you're getting laid in a foreign country when your language skills are equal to that of a 5yr old?

Like Lucky Eddie said. If you're 50+, bald, and have a gut do you think a 20ish year old SUPER Fox is going to like you for your personality? How is she going to know who you are if she only understands 20% of what you're saying?

EXCHANGE RATE= If you're in town long enough to build a report with a local girl or go down enough to have freinds then yes you will score a non-pro who is WAY out of your league back home. I call it the exchange rate; if you pull 6's back home then you can pull 8's no problem. IF! If you have to time to put in, non-pros are the same all over, girls need and want attention more than gifts. Honest truth. If you can speak the language. You have to be able to speak decent spanish to have friends or a girlfriend in another country. If you're cool and funny. Cool and Funny will get you further than Handsome and cheap.

It's true, if a girl is seen with a gringo she is afraid that she'll be seen as a working girl / prepago. My novia always dragged a friend, cousin, ect for the first few times we hung out. It wasn't until she felt comfortable with me that she told me what was up. My other friends have also told me this. All the girls who I meet now are friends of my girls or friends of friends so I can't move on them because if she finds out!

To amend what Aussie Greg said about a girl being with a gringo. More specifically if a girl is seen with a gringo who is Fat-Bald-Old-Cheap and lame then they are seen as a prepago; just like in the sates if a HOT chick is seen with the same old dude in say Miami she is seen as a gold digger. 2+2=4.

I might get flammed for the "Old-Fat-Bald-Cheap-Gringo" comments but it's true. Might sound like I'm talking about you but hey. It is what it is. Also I don't see too many young gringos living in Colombia, I see a bunch of OLD Haters. Especially in Medellin! You know who your are! Sitting up in Parque Lleres at the Juan Valdez talking shit about all the other Gringo haters trying to cock block! Waiting for your gov. Check so you can get some cheap pussy and say she's your girlfriend. Like crabs in a barrel. You can see this attitude on this message board too. It's sad. I wish it wasn't like this but it is.

For these guys it's impossible to be cool and they're the biggest part of the problem with "Killing the Scene" as they're livign down there. I'm not talking about ALL the Ex-Pats. If you get mad at this line of thought then I am talking to you. If you're ok with what I wrote then chances are you a cool guy.

Be cool be easy you'll enjoy life way more!

* The facebook holla is a MUCH-MUCH harder hustle then you think and from what people claim. I've read a few members say "Oh I reach out to some random girl on FB, chat her up via PM or I'm, friend her and post a few cute things on her page, and then BOOM! I'm fucking her. 15 seconds later.

I call BULLSHIT! You lying and we all know it. You probably some old dude with no clue how the "Politics" of FB really work.

When you send a friend request to a girl who you do not know you look like a creep. Ask any girl you know. To do it right you have to have had at lest ONE positive / fun interaction with the girl in question which brings me back to my main philosophy when it come to girls; ANY GIRL! BE COOL, NICE, FUNNY, doesn't hurt to be in good shape (try to lose the gut or hide it well) or handsome either.

ESTRADA 1-4. If you're in the states and see black / brown folks and get nervous then you should not be in the hood in antoher country. Do what you feel. If you feel unsafe get the FUCK out! It's just that simple. Not Calculus[/QUOTE]Thanks to MiamiHeatLuver, LuckyEddie, Slamcity7777 and WiltTheStilt For all your helpful l comments.

I like the straightforwardness style, I am not looking for dreams sellers here.

(I was wondering about this "standard anal". WOW! NO WAY?)

I'm in my late 30th, speak OK Spanish, I am no Bred Pitt but I am doing OK, even back home.

Unfortunately the selection back home is nothing compare to the Colombian one.

(I read this post from Poomstar also a Medellin 1st timer, scored 2 non pros in 5 days, not bad ha?)

Nevertheless I'll take your wise advises and I will back off "the non pro idea" as I am short on time and I would like to use it well.

Please don't fry me for writing that but I am not coming to Medellin to find love and affection nor to inflate my male ego. I am coming to find tight

Colombian beauties and f*ck as much as I can.

Big thanks to Matt Psyche, keep this updated info flowing dude.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1185331]. Fluent no, serviceable and competent yes. You can struggle with a non-pro but if you're not a good looking and cool dude you're in trouble with out language skills. Pros; who cares? They only know "Money Now" and "Propina" .[/QUOTE]I dig your posts Slam, however, when you say language skills with pros,"who cares", I disagree and say undoubtedly the more you can click and connect and communicate (language skills) , even with the pros, the better the service and fun, YMMV and by lots.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1185192]Hey, Loutron is F-ed up and over priced but they are closed EVERY Sunday and not just for the Flower Festival. I'm pretty sure most every casa is closed on Sunday. Now taht I think on it I don't know of any place in Medellin that is open other than maybe Fase II or Luna Lunera. I know of Onerelax in Bogota that is open and I like it a lot because it is open on Sunadays! Sorry for your crap day, better luck next time.[/QUOTE]Strip clubs are open 7 days a week. Only New Life and a couple of other smaller casas are open on Sundays. Sunday is really a day to open up your Rolodex.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1185371]So many things being posted I would love to address but this is the most important. I am the last guy to fear monger Medellin and I am of the "more gringos the merrier" (I'll explain that later)

But I a have to take a little issue with señor Heat here.

In 2005 everything was pretty OK in the barrios populares, estrato 1-2-3. Things economically were up as well as safety. I lived 6 months in Comuna 6. Now people I know there won't even allow me to visit and they are not even visiting their family members over in Comuna 3, forget about 13.

In the Summer of 2008 Don Berna was extradited to the US and the organized crime balance since then is still totally disrupted due to a super struggle for power between Valenciano and Sebastian. There is tremendous gang violence and you just cannot go where you used to. It is the wild west today comuna 13 is currently under martial law with Army sharp shooter on roof tops

Right now in Comunas 5-6-7 there is a strike by bus driver who are tired of getting killed and extorted. People who live there are struggling to get to work. This also happenend last year.

HOWEVER the main areas where most of us hang out are perfectly fine, not to worry.

Please don't go anywhere off the beaten path without a local you TOTALLY trust. And even then be wary as some only know thier innermost neighborhood surroundings and that's it.

Believe me you are not missing anything by not making it to Castilla, Doce de Octubre, San Javier, or Manrique Oriental this trip.[/QUOTE]L. E. I'm not saying to get off an Acevedo Metrocable stop and walk around and admire the shanty towns. Of course not. No sane person would. Limoncito, La Nieves in the east Palermo, Robledo in the west. La sierra, all of these towns have no visual commercial value at all but I was willing to take the risk for this nice piece of ass and made it back in one piece. Even my girl told me to hold her hand and walk fast when we would walk around in Castilla. I have to admit I was somewhat naive back then and looking back in hindsight I would have definitely been more careful or probably would have not even gone at all. Again hindsight is 20/20. No risk no reward that one time and the reward was an ass that was off the hook! LOL AGAIN GRINGO NEWBIES STAY IN THE SOUTH!

[QUOTE=Viajero;1185071]Ended up jerking off at least I enjoyed it better than going to La Mayorista.[/QUOTE]When you were having a jerk off more enjoyable than La Mayorista, I was banging a chica in Mayorista. First I saw Natalia, who frequently looked at me, on the street, but I was hesitant to pick her up. Eventualy I met a decent / good looking blonde called "Porn Star" and took her to my hotel. She appeared to put on weight a little, but still looked cute to me. 40k peso / 40minutes, chupa sin condon and sexo con condon. She likes it when I slap her face with my d**k and slap her ass with my hands. When I slap her ass, she screams "puta!". A little funny. Tonight I will try to have a jerk off which is better than the experince w / Porn Star at La Mayorista last night. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1185424]I dig your posts Slam, however, when you say language skills with pros,"who cares", I disagree and say undoubtedly the more you can click and connect and communicate (language skills) , even with the pros, the better the service and fun, YMMV and by lots.[/QUOTE]Most definitely, what the guy is saying may be accurate in some places but throughout latin america I think your language skills help immensely. Even in a jaded, tourist-overrun places like Tijuana or San Jose language skills serve you a bit, in Medellin, they serve you very much, even with pros.

As for safety, I have a general rule of thumb. If I am in a place and I stick out, I wonder,"is there a valid reason for me to be here?" if not, it's time to keep it moving. Bad neighborhoods-whether Northern Medellin or North Philly-are places with many eyes and a quick pace. If you move through them with haste, you'll be fine, if not, people see you and will catch you slipping. If the only plausible explanation of your being there is being either a cop or a cheesy level criminal (purchasing sex, drugs, etc) , you're an easy mark, especially once it becomes obvious you're not a cop (and that is VERY obvious for a gringo in Colombia).

I have lived in some rough places and learned when to keep it moving, which is about the best lesson you can learn.

[QUOTE=Bennn; 1185390]Thanks to MiamiHeatLuver, LuckyEddie, Slamcity7777 and WiltTheStilt For all your helpful l comments.

I like the straightforwardness style, I am not looking for dreams sellers here.

(I was wondering about this "standard anal". WOW! NO WAY?)

I'm in my late 30th, speak OK Spanish, I am no Bred Pitt but I am doing OK, even back home.

Unfortunately the selection back home is nothing compare to the Colombian one.

(I read this post from Poomstar also a Medellin 1st timer, scored 2 non pros in 5 days, not bad ha?)

Nevertheless I'll take your wise advises and I will back off "the non pro idea" as I am short on time and I would like to use it well.

Please don't fry me for writing that but I am not coming to Medellin to find love and affection nor to inflate my male ego. I am coming to find tight

Colombian beauties and f*ck as much as I can.

Big thanks to Matt Psyche, keep this updated info flowing dude.[/QUOTE]I mostly agreed with that rant, er, report the only thing I will say is that anal is not *that* difficult to come by.

You have to knock on a lot of (back) doors sometimes but I'd say I had success about a third of the time asking if a girl had tried it in the ass and if she would be willing. In a couple cases, it wound up being part of the service, in other cases, I had to tip as much as 100K COP (at that time about $40 USD) , which is not a bad value if you take full advantage.

I got to a point where I had a girlfriend (non pro) and two regular pros, all took it in the azz, and all sin preservativo.

I would say anal is much more common in Colombia than Costa Rica and as or more common as anywhere in Central America. I do not have much experience elsewhere in South America.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1185442]Most definitely, what the guy is saying may be accurate in some places but throughout latin america I think your language skills help immensely. Even in a jaded, tourist-overrun places like Tijuana or San Jose language skills serve you a bit, in Medellin, they serve you very much, even with pros.

As for safety, I have a general rule of thumb. If I am in a place and I stick out, I wonder,"is there a valid reason for me to be here?" if not, it's time to keep it moving. Bad neighborhoods-whether Northern Medellin or North Philly-are places with many eyes and a quick pace. If you move through them with haste, you'll be fine, if not, people see you and will catch you slipping. If the only plausible explanation of your being there is being either a cop or a cheesy level criminal (purchasing sex, drugs, etc) , you're an easy mark, especially once it becomes obvious you're not a cop (and that is VERY obvious for a gringo in Colombia).

I have lived in some rough places and learned when to keep it moving, which is about the best lesson you can learn.[/QUOTE]Respectfully speaking Sir, but if your going looking for validation you have already given up. You should want to blend in to be normal, maybe even to be humble. Slamcity7777 had a great post and he touched on the natural vibe (feeling comfortable) that others pick up on. Adjust your dress to local standards, keep your mouth shut and eyes open, and always show respect without fear. Everyone wants to figure you out to get an advantage, its up to you to learn, but keep them curious about who you really are. I've been to Tijuana and CR and they are entry level mongering if you ask me. Medellin is a different animal.

I agree with at least two things Mr. Gogo says, don't give off a fear vibe (unless they've got a gun or knife on you. That's a special situation) , and keep 'them guessing about who you are, particularly in an area where you are a stranger. I don't think you have to keep them guessing in Poblado, but say you are walking around in Zamora, you should keep 'them guessing. But I agree strongly with the Stilt when he says, in effect, do not tarry. My theory, and one day I may be proven wrong, in which case you will miss my posts, is that you can go most places off the beaten path once or twice, walking with purpose. The first time, or second, the bad guys see you, they are going to try to figure you out. Then, once they feel comfortable knowing you are just a dipshit gringo in a very wrong place, then you are in for unwelcome adventure. And my advice for everyone, including me, is when they get the drop on you, just acknowledge it, give it up and hope so see another day. But having said all that, I just can't bring myself to stay completely on the beaten path. Adventure by nature, even if it's not very smart.

I went to this massage place forgot the name the one in Monterray centro comercio in Poblado Las vegas avenue. I had a one hour massage by an early thirties lady and boy! Can she give a good massage! The massage was great, she really knows how to give a good one. The best part was the happy ending that came automatically without me asking for it. She let me finger fuck her pussy while she was masturbating me wow! She even gave me besos en la boca. That made up for my frustration not finding loutron the other day. Damage was $50 plus tips.

[quote=chesrep001;1185524]i agree with at least two things mr. gogo says, don't give off a fear vibe (unless they've got a gun or knife on you. that's a special situation) , and keep 'them guessing about who you are, particularly in an area where you are a stranger. i don't think you have to keep them guessing in poblado, but say you are walking around in zamora, you should keep 'them guessing. but i agree strongly with the stilt when he says, in effect, do not tarry. my theory, and one day i may be proven wrong, in which case you will miss my posts, is that you can go most places off the beaten path once or twice, walking with purpose. the first time, or second, the bad guys see you, they are going to try to figure you out. then, once they feel comfortable knowing you are just a dipshit gringo in a very wrong place, then you are in for unwelcome adventure. and my advice for everyone, including me, is when they get the drop on you, just acknowledge it, give it up and hope so see another day. but having said all that, i just can't bring myself to stay completely on the beaten path. adventure by nature, even if it's not very smart.[/quote]exactamente amigo. when in colombia i never have anything that can't be replaced easily. most of the time i don't even carry my passport just a photocopy. wilt is also correct in saying that most people have already developed a negative opinion on why were there (cops, or buying drugs). most of the gringos i know that live there troll for cheap pussy and coke, not all though. one time i was in la mayorista having a drink with my boy, when this popular gringo living there came over with a little hottie and offered to buy us a beer. hes basically trying to pimp this trick to us and telling us how she has been sucking his dick all day because he bought a little coke. why would i want to fuck this chic after you telling me this? well my boy bit and the chic was cute. i wasnt feeling this situatuation but my boy wanted this girl. anyway the girl leaves to go get some clothes being she was going to stay the night with my boy. then the gringo leaves, so i tell my boy fuck this girl lets leave now. we hop a cab and two minutes later we get stopped by the police. i don't have my passport so i'm talking fast praising the city and saying we were just going home. after the police left i couldn't help but think if that gringo called the cops (two black guys in a taxi) and maybe the girl was supposed to plant some coke on us. my motto is don't trust anyone in medellin and be invisible if possible.

I will not disagree with the fellows stating (stay away from walking in the getto areas }.

I see no sense in sight seeing in areas that are poor, and run down.

Now if you are talking about strip clubs and casas in shady areas then I have found that my best times were in clubs that people said stay away from. Sure I'll take a cab to, and from, but it always seems to me these places are the best in terms of value, and hunting for new prey. Many the time I was the only Gringo in the Joint, and the locals bought me drinks and invited me to their table. Of course I bought when My turn came up.

Another thing I think can't be ignored is the way you carry yourself. It is hard to discribe, but if you are confident in your actions it seems the bad guys look elsewhere. Now you have to follow the rule of not wearing gold or flashing money, but that is Mongering 101, and goes without saying.

So to sum it up. You Newbees stay on the beaten path, and you will have a good and safe time. For me the beaten path is beat.

Hi everybody,

I know Brazil but not Colombia.

When I read many reports on Cali or MDE topic, I have the impression it's relatively easy to have relation with non pros, or I'm wrong?

Seems to be more easy than Rio.

In Rio, I have try at Lapa, beach, restaurant, and no sign of girls about "yes you can offer me a drink, or come to talk to me."

[QUOTE=Kyrawz; 1185583]Hi everybody,

I know Brazil but not Colombia.

When I read many reports on Cali or MDE topic, I have the impression it's relatively easy to have relation with non pros, or I'm wrong?

Seems to be more easy than Rio.

In Rio, I have try at Lapa, beach, restaurant, and no sign of girls about "yes you can offer me a drink, or come to talk to me."[/QUOTE]In Colombia especially in Medellin you can pick up non pros just by spekaing english or carrying a blue passport. What are you waiting for? Get down here as soon as possible before some other loser gets the pussy!

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1184443]No offense but this is just super risky for you. You are going to commit a whole week with one girl you don't even know if you click with? A huge risk to be taking, no?

Yeah you could give her half before you even show up and she could split. Also what if you split on her?

Howabout: Divide by 7 and tell her you will pay her every day. Either way if this chick is a dud and you are on San Andres or Santa Marta what are you going to do? Unless your vacation is in Cartagena where you can ditch her and have other options.

I did this years ago and asked 4 girls if they would be game for vacation but I couldn't be certain if it was going to happen. When I got down I saw each of the four in the first two days and picked the winner. We packed our bags and bought tickets to San Andres right at the airport. I paid her every day. 5 days.

En pocas palabras I would not submit to a week vacation with a stranger. JMHO. Good luck and let us know how it goes.[/QUOTE]Here you go Lucky Eddie, I just met her tonight, no sex or anything, just beso on cheek, and she looks like a very fine young lady. She is studying to be an actress. In looks, she is a knock out gorgeous, when I saw her, I just melted. I gave her half the money as down payment, and the other half when we get back. I will keep you guys posted. I will be traveling next week with her.