Rio de Janeiro Reports

I was hanging out with some GP's but in a friend situation. The top layer of clothing comes off and. #$%$! It is now obvious to anyone within 100 yards of us that the Gringos had brought their "dates" to the beach. The girl I had with me was wearing a bikini she had bought for the occasion, and it was very normal. But I had told her to do it. The others. Dental floss on the lower section is not so bad as even a mom can get away with that a bit but in front. It needs to be wider then an inch or two. Also, no normal girl has to adjust her top to keep her nipple from showing. It was very lucky that the location was out of my normal haunts.

If you are passing through Rio, it is not big deal but even when doing that, think a bit. If you are older, heavy and not so big on fashion, and she is beautiful and in her early twenties, then going to a nice dinner or anywhere for that matter requires her to tone it down. Lots of decent places used to turn such a couple away at the door if it was too obvious.

I had a great time with a few girls from Barbarella's the other night. Going home at noon always poses an issue. The one girl pulled a dress and flip flops out of her purse. Very cool. The other one had to be dropped off a bit from her house and was irritated about it. I can see her point. No one wants to be the GP getting home at noon in front of everyone.

One topic that has come up of late, is that of there being less talent around now that the Brazilian economy is stronger. While I don't agree entirely with this, there is still plenty of poverty in Brazil. I do think the industry has changed a lot. The better talent is still there, just not in the zona sul area. One needs to explore more to find it, get into the local culture, but this is not the topic of this post.

I have been to the poorer areas of Rio quite a lot. Namely the Baixada. The area past Zona Norte, way out. It comprises probably 3million people in and around that area and is way poorer than the rest of Rio. It has been quite normal out there for younger, more attractive girls to enter into an agreement with generally older guys. Probably guys that are small business owners, local government guys etc. Guys that earn more than your average dude out in the baixada. They generally agree on a sum of money per month to "help them". Now surprisingly to me the amount of money given per month is quite low. Probably could be a few hundred Reals to maybe R$1500 per month max. Very low compared to what some of my buddies give their girlfriends to live off per month in Zona Sul, think $3k and up, some cases way up!

I have always known that this has gone on, but recently one of my favourite GDP's fell on hard times, health issues etc and has since found some guy to support her for R$1000 per month. So it got me thinking. Now this girl is hot, I mean she was the busiest girl by a long way at a well known T. This is a fraction of what she earned. She doesn't even really like the guy she is with and he is like 300lbs, but she does like the lifestyle he gives her. To her he is apparently wealthy, to some one living in Zona Sul he would probably be less than average. Anyway she is actually happier not working at a T, so I guess will put up with the fatty. Now I have known this girl for ages, she comes over sometimes for free, she wants to speak to me everyday, when on hard times she asks for a "little present" R$100 - R$200, probably what I would spend on a normal date anyway. Since she has been seeing this older dude she wants to come over a lot, I think she wants to find a better guy to look after her. I don't want to see her that much because she has personality issues and is uncontrollable, just not worth it for my sanity. It's actually pretty funny in that the guy that looks after her rings her constantly asking where she is and generally trying to keep her in line to no avail, she has banged 5 different guys that I know of in this month alone. Probably mostly broke ass young guys from her gym.

So my point is that maybe with more money in the Brazilian economy more of the hotter GDP's are finding some local to look after them. Locals being locals, they would pay the girls next to nothing. I actually thought about the girl in the above example, R$1000 per month for a chic this hot is a no brainer. Thankfully I am still in the stage of my life where I can get hotties to come over for free, but who knows in a few years, it may be an option for the future. However you would need to pick a more reliable, more balanced girl to "look after". I think if any foreigners would want to find a girl like this, for very little cash per month, a real good hunt through the privates would come up with a number of good possibilities. Would take a lot of searching but the result would be there. At the end of the day most girls are just looking for a way out of a generally crappy life, a relatively little amount of cash would do this to a Baixada girl.

[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1209272]Gentelmen. I must confess right from the start that I've never every used Viagra or anything of sorts.

After reading Bubba's report (for which I'm thankful). I've decided to perhaps give it my first try during the upcoming visit. Few questions remain, however:

1. I usually have no problem with erection. All I need to get "ready" is 30 min. Between sessions, increased to 1 hr, if I had more than 2 sessions. Will I really benefit from taking Viagra? If so, how?[/QUOTE]Well, maybe you don't need it. Maybe you use it as backup in case a chick misbehaves and you go limp.

But if you could use more or more frequent hardness, it can help.

[QUOTE=Aibolit;1209272]2. How much ahead of time should one take it? How to time the intake, in other words?[/QUOTE]I strongly disagree with the other answer.

The official reply is : 1 hour, and not a full stomach.

If you want it faster: put it under the tongue and let it melt really slowly, for 5 minutes or so, so it enters the blood stream directly. That is mandatory in case you are stuffed from a huge buffet. If you are not stuffed, then 20 minutes will do, after letting it melt in your mouth.

Be aware you might not want to kiss the girl during this time and your tongue might look white or blue.

[QUOTE=Aibolit;1209272]3. Are there any side effects, particularly for first-time users?[/QUOTE]Try the lowest quantity. NEVER take an entire 100 mg pill unless you have experience that you need that.

You should try max 25 mg first, then add a little if it is not enough, or if several hours have passed. I just bite it off a 100 mg piece.

If you take more then necessary, then the effect will stay the same, the side effects will go up.

I sometimes get light headaches. I try to drink more water, not sure how much that helps.

You are supposed NOT to drink alcohol, at least not beyond very small amounts. Everyone does, but you are on your own.

[QUOTE=Aibolit;1209272]4. What's the best way to get it in Rio or Sao Paulo?[/QUOTE]Yes, pharmacies.

There are plenty of Indian places that sell legit generics that are legal in India. I have bought 10 times in the last 4 years from here.

[url]http://viagragenerics.longlovetabs.com/[/url]

Larger amounts are better deals

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy;1209247]Just came back from my 4th visit to VM in 8 years of Rio. The place is quite simply a shithole. Saw my first 1. Out of a scale of 1 to 10 she was a 1. Did see a strong 9 there as well. I guess out of the 200+ women that work there there has to be some hotties. The majority are very undoable. 99% are 4-6's.[/QUOTE]I met my first 1 in Vila Mimosa, too. 5 year, loudmouth, pear shaped body (everything thin except the belly) , one tooth (no teeth would at least be a good BJ) , unkempt hair, .

And the general dirty atmosphere is too filthy even for me. I am shocked that some gringos go there and enjoy the filthy cabins. I know other places for the same price or less that are much cleaner. Or pay R$ 50 and to go a Tijuca massage parlor.

[QUOTE=Eurodon; 1209112]Thanks first to all of you for the great information provided here. Especially Bubba's and Sperto's guides and maps have been a great help to find a way throuh the city and the routines of interaction with some of its female attractions. I hope I can give you an update on some of the sights, all of them mentioned here extensively before. So please do not expect any real news from this report.

I spent some days in Rio, with a limited budget of time and money. It was my first time in Rio. It is also my first report in this forum.[/QUOTE]Limited budget? You went to all the places I consider expensive.

But, for a newcomer, finding cheaper places is a bit of work. Send me a PM with your phone and email next time, maybe you catch me in the mood to take you somewhere (daytime only!).

[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist;1211296]I know other places for the same price or less that are much cleaner.[/QUOTE]Not that VM is so cheap anymore, but Carioca 59, Uruguaiana 24, Buenos Aires 85 are cheaper (at least if you take quickie) but not overwhelmingly clean.

I know that you have mentioned before that you know other places that are cheaper and cleaner. Would you like to share that info I'm sure we all would appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1211036]. ended up at Terma 65. with the hot bow legged mulata Lavina and was not disappointed. I think the damage with 1 drink was about R$370. She gave me her number and actually took a 3hr van ride this morning from Jacarepagua to my apartment. We fucked each others brains out from 10am. 12pm before she went to work.[/QUOTE]So my 4x4 favourite has ended up at T65! . I'm in Rio in 3 weeks time, I'll check her out. Thanks for the intel

No, not as cheap as it was, but in 8-10 years I still like it for the atmosphere of fun. The closest I've come to it is Sonsgachi in Calcutta, but there are fewer smiling faces, more destitute horrors. VM tends to be more honest and upfront and more varied (in my opinion) than the upscale termas where the girls have a more standardised charm routine (this is a purely personal opinion, many will disagree). And although the rooms (with the very occasional exception) revoltingly filthy, the girls (with the very occasional exception) are beautifully clean. There is something about VM that attracts the spirit of adventure in the monger in me. It has also been the case that the most beautiful women I've personally punted with in Rio (I mean in decent light and with make-up off) have hailed from VM. They are often quite fresh from the country, would feel intimidated by the pressure of Balcony or 4x4. Now if I was visiting on business and had to change out of a suit, my nose would probably turn up. As would the idea of sorting through 200 or more. Though I'd add that the best girls are often less visible and also require patience. They can just work at peak time and rarely have to pop their head out of the room (or their own room, as sometimes the girls live on-site and have a room punters don't generally get to see.

I expect I'll get shot down in flames by the posher community. And people who are dedicated to the 4x4s of the world learn tricks to get better experiences there just as I suggest is possible at VM. In cheapness, yes Carioca 59 and the other city dives offer a cheaper bang, but hardly places I want to hang out for hours kicking back with a beer or going from bar to bar as some hottie enforces her latest favourite music, shaking her ass with the force of an approaching truck.

Whatever your joy, enjoy it.

Christopherd.

(yes, I'm more of a Belem fan these days, and m currently writing from a brief stay in Egypt. A seriously abysmal and dangerously bustable mongering zone! But of all the Rio p4p attractions, it is VM that draws me back.

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy; 1211233]One topic that has come up of late, is that of there being less talent around now that the Brazilian economy is stronger. While I don't agree entirely with this, there is still plenty of poverty in Brazil. I do think the industry has changed a lot. The better talent is still there, just not in the zona sul area. One needs to explore more to find it, get into the local culture, but this is not the topic of this post.

I have been to the poorer areas of Rio quite a lot. Namely the Baixada. The area past Zona Norte, way out. It comprises probably 3million people in and around that area and is way poorer than the rest of Rio. It has been quite normal out there for younger, more attractive girls to enter into an agreement with generally older guys. Probably guys that are small business owners, local government guys etc. Guys that earn more than your average dude out in the baixada. They generally agree on a sum of money per month to "help them". Now surprisingly to me the amount of money given per month is quite low. Probably could be a few hundred Reals to maybe R$1500 per month max. Very low compared to what some of my buddies give their girlfriends to live off per month in Zona Sul, think $3k and up, some cases way up!

I have always known that this has gone on, but recently one of my favourite GDP's fell on hard times, health issues etc and has since found some guy to support her for R$1000 per month. So it got me thinking. Now this girl is hot, I mean she was the busiest girl by a long way at a well known T. This is a fraction of what she earned. She doesn't even really like the guy she is with and he is like 300lbs, but she does like the lifestyle he gives her. To her he is apparently wealthy, to some one living in Zona Sul he would probably be less than average. Anyway she is actually happier not working at a T, so I guess will put up with the fatty. Now I have known this girl for ages, she comes over sometimes for free, she wants to speak to me everyday, when on hard times she asks for a "little present" R$100. R$200, probably what I would spend on a normal date anyway. Since she has been seeing this older dude she wants to come over a lot, I think she wants to find a better guy to look after her. I don't want to see her that much because she has personality issues and is uncontrollable, just not worth it for my sanity. It's actually pretty funny in that the guy that looks after her rings her constantly asking where she is and generally trying to keep her in line to no avail, she has banged 5 different guys that I know of in this month alone. Probably mostly broke ass young guys from her gym.

So my point is that maybe with more money in the Brazilian economy more of the hotter GDP's are finding some local to look after them. Locals being locals, they would pay the girls next to nothing. I actually thought about the girl in the above example, R$1000 per month for a chic this hot is a no brainer. Thankfully I am still in the stage of my life where I can get hotties to come over for free, but who knows in a few years, it may be an option for the future. However you would need to pick a more reliable, more balanced girl to "look after". I think if any foreigners would want to find a girl like this, for very little cash per month, a real good hunt through the privates would come up with a number of good possibilities. Would take a lot of searching but the result would be there. At the end of the day most girls are just looking for a way out of a generally crappy life, a relatively little amount of cash would do this to a Baixada girl.[/QUOTE]Most of the beautiful girls are out of the country on the circuit. Spain, England, United States during the non summer months. Where they can make more. They have been doing it for years. Now that Brazil ecomomy has picked up more are doing for longer periods of time. They are recruiting other girls too!

[QUOTE=Christopherd;1211337]I expect I'll get shot down in flames by the posher community. And people who are dedicated to the 4x4s of the world learn tricks to get better experiences there just as I suggest is possible at VM.[/QUOTE]Chris,

I suppose that I am a member of the "posher" community. But no flaming from me. We all like different things, and it's all good with me. Since our last trip together to VM, I went back a few times, just for kicks. I have even found a place where you can take a dump (with toilet paper!) there. So it's all good. But overall it's too hard for me to sift through all that rubble to find the occasional gem. Since time is much more precious to me than money, I generally just do the easy thing, though.

What's the easy thing? Hitting L'uomo, talking English, paying for some booze, hanging out with 3 or 4 well-groomed hotties, having a great big party, doing one or two there, chwing the fat with the other tourists, then picking someone for TLN. Yes, much more expensive; yes, much less adventurous. But for a few hundred R I can really get the royal treatment. Definitely worth it to me.

Still, next time we meet up in Rio I will let you drag me again to the underbelly of the city. 'cause there is also a bit of an adventurer in me.

Peace.

Euro

I think this is a really great post, and completely accurate as to my experience in a mini relationship. The girl ended up staying with her mother in Zona Norte, in Realengo / Bangu, with her son. For $1000 or $1500 R a month, I could have been in the position your describe. She's now out in Campo Grande, Zona Oest. Except, she is nuts, but great in the sack. I was in touch with her to see her when I went down to RJ in Feb, and then again in May, but ended up following advice of a buddy who said, she will just manipulate you in her environment, so I did my own usual tour of termas and agencies in Rio when I got in Brazil. But in 09 and 10, she was by far the best GDP ever. If there is one like her, there are five. That's 5 out of 150 in 3 years, but I actually think this kind of mini-relationship is a good option. Anyway, good post.

By contrast, here in the states, I have a friend who just told me that his wife is divorcing him after 10 years and 20 days of marriage. 10 years being the cut off for some level of full alimony.

Anyway. Got to get back to RJ.

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy; 1211233]One topic that has come up of late, is that of there being less talent around now that the Brazilian economy is stronger. While I don't agree entirely with this, there is still plenty of poverty in Brazil. I do think the industry has changed a lot. The better talent is still there, just not in the zona sul area. One needs to explore more to find it, get into the local culture, but this is not the topic of this post.

I have been to the poorer areas of Rio quite a lot. Namely the Baixada. The area past Zona Norte, way out. It comprises probably 3million people in and around that area and is way poorer than the rest of Rio. It has been quite normal out there for younger, more attractive girls to enter into an agreement with generally older guys. Probably guys that are small business owners, local government guys etc. Guys that earn more than your average dude out in the baixada. They generally agree on a sum of money per month to "help them". Now surprisingly to me the amount of money given per month is quite low. Probably could be a few hundred Reals to maybe R$1500 per month max. Very low compared to what some of my buddies give their girlfriends to live off per month in Zona Sul, think $3k and up, some cases way up!

I have always known that this has gone on, but recently one of my favourite GDP's fell on hard times, health issues etc and has since found some guy to support her for R$1000 per month. So it got me thinking. Now this girl is hot, I mean she was the busiest girl by a long way at a well known T. This is a fraction of what she earned. She doesn't even really like the guy she is with and he is like 300lbs, but she does like the lifestyle he gives her. To her he is apparently wealthy, to some one living in Zona Sul he would probably be less than average. Anyway she is actually happier not working at a T, so I guess will put up with the fatty. Now I have known this girl for ages, she comes over sometimes for free, she wants to speak to me everyday, when on hard times she asks for a "little present" R$100. R$200, probably what I would spend on a normal date anyway. Since she has been seeing this older dude she wants to come over a lot, I think she wants to find a better guy to look after her. I don't want to see her that much because she has personality issues and is uncontrollable, just not worth it for my sanity. It's actually pretty funny in that the guy that looks after her rings her constantly asking where she is and generally trying to keep her in line to no avail, she has banged 5 different guys that I know of in this month alone. Probably mostly broke ass young guys from her gym.

So my point is that maybe with more money in the Brazilian economy more of the hotter GDP's are finding some local to look after them. Locals being locals, they would pay the girls next to nothing. I actually thought about the girl in the above example, R$1000 per month for a chic this hot is a no brainer. Thankfully I am still in the stage of my life where I can get hotties to come over for free, but who knows in a few years, it may be an option for the future. However you would need to pick a more reliable, more balanced girl to "look after". I think if any foreigners would want to find a girl like this, for very little cash per month, a real good hunt through the privates would come up with a number of good possibilities. Would take a lot of searching but the result would be there. At the end of the day most girls are just looking for a way out of a generally crappy life, a relatively little amount of cash would do this to a Baixada girl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Christopherd;1211337]No, not as cheap as it was, but in 8-10 years I still like it for the atmosphere of fun. The closest I've come to it is Sonsgachi in Calcutta, but there are fewer smiling faces, more destitute horrors. VM tends to be more honest and upfront and more varied (in my opinion) than the upscale termas where the girls have a more standardised charm routine (this is a purely personal opinion, many will disagree). And although the rooms (with the very occasional exception) revoltingly filthy, the girls (with the very occasional exception) are beautifully clean. There is something about VM that attracts the spirit of adventure in the monger in me. It has also been the case that the most beautiful women I've personally punted with in Rio (I mean in decent light and with make-up off) have hailed from VM. They are often quite fresh from the country, would feel intimidated by the pressure of Balcony or 4x4. Now if I was visiting on business and had to change out of a suit, my nose would probably turn up. As would the idea of sorting through 200 or more. Though I'd add that the best girls are often less visible and also require patience. They can just work at peak time and rarely have to pop their head out of the room (or their own room, as sometimes the girls live on-site and have a room punters don't generally get to see.

I expect I'll get shot down in flames by the posher community. And people who are dedicated to the 4x4s of the world learn tricks to get better experiences there just as I suggest is possible at VM. In cheapness, yes Carioca 59 and the other city dives offer a cheaper bang, but hardly places I want to hang out for hours kicking back with a beer or going from bar to bar as some hottie enforces her latest favourite music, shaking her ass with the force of an approaching truck.[/QUOTE]
Just spot-on.
I agree 100%.
[QUOTE=Euro100;1211436]I have even found a place where you can take a dump (with toilet paper!) there.[/QUOTE]
A toilet with toilet paper in VM, that's very rare. Could you even lock the door?
I've been to VM countless times. Lots of weird things have happened to me at VM (a fire in the cabin is one of them), but luckily I never had to take a dump at VM. That would be a nightmare.
Taking a dump before heading to VM makes part of the pre-battle-preparations.

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy; 1211233]One topic that has come up of late, is that of there being less talent around now that the Brazilian economy is stronger. While I don't agree entirely with this, there is still plenty of poverty in Brazil. I do think the industry has changed a lot. The better talent is still there, just not in the zona sul area. One needs to explore more to find it, get into the local culture, but this is not the topic of this post.

I have been to the poorer areas of Rio quite a lot. Namely the Baixada. The area past Zona Norte, way out. It comprises probably 3million people in and around that area and is way poorer than the rest of Rio. It has been quite normal out there for younger, more attractive girls to enter into an agreement with generally older guys. Probably guys that are small business owners, local government guys etc. Guys that earn more than your average dude out in the baixada. They generally agree on a sum of money per month to "help them". Now surprisingly to me the amount of money given per month is quite low. Probably could be a few hundred Reals to maybe R$1500 per month max. Very low compared to what some of my buddies give their girlfriends to live off per month in Zona Sul, think $3k and up, some cases way up!

I have always known that this has gone on, but recently one of my favourite GDP's fell on hard times, health issues etc and has since found some guy to support her for R$1000 per month. So it got me thinking. Now this girl is hot, I mean she was the busiest girl by a long way at a well known T. This is a fraction of what she earned. She doesn't even really like the guy she is with and he is like 300lbs, but she does like the lifestyle he gives her. To her he is apparently wealthy, to some one living in Zona Sul he would probably be less than average. Anyway she is actually happier not working at a T, so I guess will put up with the fatty. Now I have known this girl for ages, she comes over sometimes for free, she wants to speak to me everyday, when on hard times she asks for a "little present" R$100. R$200, probably what I would spend on a normal date anyway. Since she has been seeing this older dude she wants to come over a lot, I think she wants to find a better guy to look after her. I don't want to see her that much because she has personality issues and is uncontrollable, just not worth it for my sanity. It's actually pretty funny in that the guy that looks after her rings her constantly asking where she is and generally trying to keep her in line to no avail, she has banged 5 different guys that I know of in this month alone. Probably mostly broke ass young guys from her gym.

So my point is that maybe with more money in the Brazilian economy more of the hotter GDP's are finding some local to look after them. Locals being locals, they would pay the girls next to nothing. I actually thought about the girl in the above example, R$1000 per month for a chic this hot is a no brainer. Thankfully I am still in the stage of my life where I can get hotties to come over for free, but who knows in a few years, it may be an option for the future. However you would need to pick a more reliable, more balanced girl to "look after". I think if any foreigners would want to find a girl like this, for very little cash per month, a real good hunt through the privates would come up with a number of good possibilities. Would take a lot of searching but the result would be there. At the end of the day most girls are just looking for a way out of a generally crappy life, a relatively little amount of cash would do this to a Baixada girl.[/QUOTE]Yeah. I think this is fairly common in brazilian culture (ajuda). I think it is probably more common in American culture than most people realize. I've done this with a terma girl in the past; who is one of the sexiest girls I know in Rio. I also hang out with two different big bunda porn stars who are talked about on this board. Neither of whom works anymore; but I'm sure both see other guys. Good gig if you can find it

Two days ago I went to Centaurus. Big selection of girls but none really stood out as my type. They were either too big / muscular or too skinny. I prefer fit cury girls, but not the steriod types (there are exceptions though). Anyway I first took a petite loira and a slender morena for a dupla. It was OK, but nothing spectacular.

After the session I went back to the boite and found two fellow countrymen there (I hardly ever meet any on my tips to SP). We had some drinks and chatted a bit before this really amazing looking blonde walks in. Her face reminded a lot of Jessica Alba but this girls body was better. Nicer legs, ass and tits. About the same height.

We started talking and she passed the screening process with flying colors. In the room she turned out not to be so good though and wouldn't even come through on her promises. Still I would have had regrets if I had passed on her.

My energy level was now at rock bottom, so I left for dinner after having promised my fellow countrymen to meet at Balcony later that night.

Before I went to Centaurus I had lunch at Satyricon and dinner was at Olympe. Both were very good.

After dinner I took a taxi to Balcony where my friends alteady had a table and waved me over. The place was very crowded but the quality of girls was very low. I did spot a couple of nice ones though. I told myself to shortlist three girls and leave if none of them passed screening. I did however only manage to spot two sparking my interest. One was a tall morena in a grey dress with facial similarities to Beyonce. The other was a loira with blue eyes and a nice tan. I tried for about an hour to get eyecontact with either without luck when I finally managed to get eyecontact and waved over the morena.

After first having a bottle of white wine for lunch, then a couple of caipirinhas at Centaurus, a bottle of red wine at Olympe and two caipirinhas while waiting at Balcony my judgement was probably a little off course, but when I made a deal with her to stay the night for R$200 and she seemed like a great girl I thought I had struck gold.

However when she came out of the dress, she was not what I had hoped. I was obviously not what she had hoped either because during round two in the bed I fell asleep when she gave me a BBBJ. I had arrived that morning with no sleep on the overnight flight and with no sleep during the entire day either my energy was gone. She became furious and left after I had paid her. She left me her number though and demanded I banged her the next day. I was more than happy to just go to sleep without having managed to pop during any of the sessions.

GK

Safado69,

Fantastic pictures of a super hottie. I got to say I do not understand why such a beautiful girl would get an ink job all over her body, but in Brazil I am seeing this more and more.

Major kudos!

[QUOTE=Genghis Khan; 1211852]Before I went to Centaurus I had lunch at Satyricon and dinner was at Olympe. Both were very good.

After first having a bottle of white wine for lunch, then a couple of caipirinhas at Centaurus, a bottle of red wine at Olympe and two caipirinhas while waiting at Balcony my judgement was probably a little off course, but when I made a deal with her to stay the night for R$200 and she seemed like a great girl I thought I had struck gold.

GK[/QUOTE]This is the best of Rio, this is living, good for you, enjoy and please post your next exploits.