Jakarta

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1476665]This is the Ana I was thinking about.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Different Ana, but very nice! 'My' Ana, shorter, sexy body. 4 nights a week girl (nearly always successful) at TG for the last few years up to Jan this year, virtually no English. 4 yrs ago I was, according to her, only her second customer. Totally believable. Shy, lights off, sheets over, missionary position only, didn't know what a BJ was, scared and nervous. So bad in fact, I dunno why I ever went there again. A far cry from the exhibitionist and enthusiastic vixen she became by the end of last year when I last saw her. We've always been 'friends' of a sort since the early days which is why I'd like to see her again. But I guess I'll forget about it unless chance throws us together again. Thanks for your help, Smoothie, much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1476743]For heaven's sake don't be a complete d1ckhead and marry one of them! Are you insane? Do you really want to spend the rest of your life looking at her and wondering how many other blokes, how many of your friends, she sucked c0ck for? How many of them she swore was a handsome man too?

Get on a dating site and find a nice girl, with a bit of an education, in her twenties holding down a job and looking for a good husband to look after her and who she can spoil. Trust me there's a gazillion of them out there.[/QUOTE]Fully agree:

I did observe a former Blok-M girl, hottie at that time, got married to an Aussie bloke, had 2 kids with him, she never took care of the kids but was self-centered and had some flings on the side. Not known by the bloke.

Then a friend of the bloke got involved with her. The husband finally realized that she was a *****. She moved in with the other guy, also because he got more money. It did work for 2 years. Then he got hit by the financial-market crisis, lost his job as investment advisor. Shortly after she found another guy and moved on to him.

That all happend in a period of 10 years. She's now end thirties, tits sagging and a fat face from smoking and drinking. Once she's joining our group, she is annoying loud. No ones fav anymore.

Well the mystery of Terminal 5's eight girls / one night promotion is at and end, or should I say the promotion is at an end. It was just a special offer when the place first opened and is no longer valid. Oh well, I'm sorry I never got the chance to try it out just for the heck of it.

Added to the fact that the titty dancers don't get their kit off until 11 pm now (previously it was 7pm) and the mamasans seem incapable of following plain, simple instructions when you tell them what you want (new girl, just up from the kampung and slim) and instead simply grab the first one they find (invariably a bit on the distaff side, new to Classic but only after working for three years in Terminal and Malioboro) I'll probably be giving the place a miss for a while.

Not quite sure where to set my sights now. By the way I see the Olympic, always a reliable spot for a good mid-afternoon massage, has shut down, what's the score there?

Anybody got any recommendations for something a bit new? I'm getting tired of all the same old-same-old joints.

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1476743]Perhaps Smoothy has posted up a picture of a different girl but I can well imagine that there is some idiot out there, who of all the lovely, sweet, clever girls in Indonesia who would only love to marry and settle down with a western guy bringing in a good salary, chose to get married to a Blok M bar girl, tattoos and all.

There is really nothing as cringe-making as seeing a middle-aged mixed race couple and the wife, in her forties, plump and rough looking with faded tattoos announcing to the world (and their kids)"I was a prostitute doing tricks in a bar when I met my husband".

For heaven's sake don't be a complete d1ckhead and marry one of them! Are you insane? Do you really want to spend the rest of your life looking at her and wondering how many other blokes, how many of your friends, she sucked c0ck for? How many of them she swore was a handsome man too?

Get on a dating site and find a nice girl, with a bit of an education, in her twenties holding down a job and looking for a good husband to look after her and who she can spoil. Trust me there's a gazillion of them out there. After you've married her, you'll still be able to fcuk the pole dancers in tattoos that can drink industrial quantities of ice teas and best of all you can wander off and leave them when you're done and go back home to the decent respectable lady who is rearing your kids.[/QUOTE]Hilo,

I ain't that silly, first went to Blok M in 1994 and been around off and on ever since, and am not naive about what happens. I do have a 'nice' Indonesian wife, my vice and regret is that despite that I can't stay away from the good time girls for too long, try as I might, when I visit Jakarta alone! Sometimes develop soft spots for particular girls as in this case, and prefer to keep a regular on tap rather than ganti ganti terus. Usually ends when they get the possessives or drop off the scene. I'm always happy to move on and wouldn't dream of marriage.

Over the years have witnessed about 10 friends marry Blok girls. I'd say the success rate runs at about 30% based on my sample, bottom line problem is that trust can never really ever be there, no matter how good the intentions, both remember how and where they met and what that says about the possibility of fidelity. What tickles me are the cases where the guy expects the wild on-going carnal sex to continue, meanwhile the new wife wants to be a respectable Ibu and put all that behind her and not act like a hooker anymore. Sad in a way, both end up disillusioned. Easier if the girl just goes on with the lies and behind the back tricking and the guy continues to philander whenever he gets the chance until the inevitable break up!

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1476743]Perhaps Smoothy has posted up a picture of a different girl but I can well imagine that there is some idiot out there, who of all the lovely, sweet, clever girls in Indonesia who would only love to marry and settle down with a western guy bringing in a good salary, chose to get married to a Blok M bar girl, tattoos and all. There is really nothing as cringe-making as seeing a middle-aged mixed race couple and the wife, in her forties, plump and rough looking with faded tattoos announcing to the world (and their kids)"I was a prostitute doing tricks in a bar when I met my husband".[/QUOTE]I'm just pausing to reflect to see if I can remember a case where it turned out well. Hmmm, nope. On the other hand, I don't hold out much hope for the marriages with the lovely, sweet, clever girls, either, but perhaps I'm being too cynical.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1477093]I'm just pausing to reflect to see if I can remember a case where it turned out well. Hmmm, nope.[/QUOTE]I know a few, but not many. There are some Pretty Woman stories from the blok where the girl remained faithful and the marriage worked out well, believe it or not.

[QUOTE=Botaki6; 1477024]Fully agree:

I did observe a former Blok-M girl, hottie at that time, got married to an Aussie bloke, had 2 kids with him, she never took care of the kids but was self-centered and had some flings on the side. Not known by the bloke.

Then a friend of the bloke got involved with her. The husband finally realized that she was a. She moved in with the other guy, also because he got more money. It did work for 2 years. Then he got hit by the financial-market crisis, lost his job as investment advisor. Shortly after she found another guy and moved on to him.

That all happend in a period of 10 years. She's now end thirties, tits sagging and a fat face from smoking and drinking. Once she's joining our group, she is annoying loud. No ones fav anymore.[/QUOTE]The hot ones are trouble. The mixed marriages do not work well unless there really ugly and know there on a good wicket. But if I'm going to be taken for a ride, let it be with a young hot one. I think about 1% of all girls are any good and so you marry a ugly one or pay the price. I sit at Christmas time and at parties with x pats and there all married to party girls. What a nightmare and always arguing over nothing. Guys are grass cutting each other all the time. Like I said 99% end badly and they takes years to get over it. But really your off the hook. Play the field and keep hunting. Photo of a great player and still playing everyone . I support her buy sharing her with other guys and she would lie to me all the time : But like banging her and keep playing along and fuck her for years . Hope u find a 1% or play the game .

[QUOTE=Kadoma;1477085]What tickles me are the cases where the guy expects the wild on-going carnal sex to continue, meanwhile the new wife wants to be a respectable Ibu and put all that behind her and not act like a hooker anymore.[/QUOTE]Just like Ambrose Bierce said: the great tragedy of marriage is that the woman expects her husband to change, and he doesn't. And the man expects his wife never to change, but she does.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1476665]This is the Ana I was thinking about.[/QUOTE]Guys, I got this girl in my facebook, she has a really old boyfriend (65-70) , he brings her to the Maladives etc.

He spoils her and she "spoils" him. Not bad for a 70 year old guy. So who is stupid? .

If I am 70 and a cute girl like that rides my dick every day (or week) I would be really happy. I guess he knew she wasn't a virgin.

Mark

[QUOTE=MarkIII; 1477301]Guys, I got this girl in my facebook, she has a really old boyfriend (65-70) , he brings her to the Maladives etc.

He spoils her and she "spoils" him. Not bad for a 70 year old guy. So who is stupid? .

If I am 70 and a cute girl like that rides my dick every day (or week) I would be really happy. I guess he knew she wasn't a virgin.

Mark[/QUOTE]Well, I am older monger, and there is nothing sweeter than to take a cute cewek to exotic places. Life does not end at 40!

Bule2004

On the topic of older mongerers, earlier this month, I joined Indonesian Cupid (IC) earlier this month. I was somewhat apprehensive that my age, mid-60s, would be a turnoff to the cute ceweks I sought. I need not have worried!

Yes, I got a few "interests" from tubby old females, but, by far, most of the interests were from ceweks in their 20s, some still teenagers! I chatted with the handfull I found most attractive, and met most of them at Starbucks for coffee. Ninety percent (9 out of 10) of these initial meetings resulted in our checking into a local hotel to get to know one another better. I now infrequently go to kota to find chicks, and never the

Amazing country, try to do this in the United States. Exhibit 1 is the photo I received this morning from a chick trying to lure me in.

I often think that if the average American male over 40 years of age knew what I know, there would be a mass migration of males to Indonesia.

Bule2004

[QUOTE=Kadoma;1477085]I do have a 'nice' Indonesian wife, my vice and regret is that despite that I can't stay away from the good time girls for too long, try as I might, when I visit Jakarta alone![/QUOTE]You and me both mate, we're in precisely the same boat. However, as Bule2004 says below this isn't the west with all their ridiculous, anal-retentive attitudes to sex (and to listen to smug westerners you'd think they were the "liberated" ones and people in Indonesia were all ignorant, uptight, sexual prudes). Indonesian women aren't stupid, they know what's out there and they know damn well that given half a chance their men will be making out like tom cats if they can.

But provided we don't do anything stupid like getting ourselves caught or bring shame on the wife and family what an Indonesian wife doesn't know about she chooses not to ask. If she catches you then woe be tide you for a week or so, you'll be sleeping in the spare room while she thinks up her revenge but it will be endurable. Think about an American wife who caught her husband messing around with dolly birds, she'd be on the phone to her lawyer in a heartbeat and you'd be living in a miserable little apartment for the rest of your days, only seeing your kids on a Saturday morning for a trip to the zoo or MacDonalds and handing over two thirds of your salary and savings to keep her (and no doubt her new boyfriend) in the style to which she's grown accustomed in the house that you bought and now never see.

God I love this country.

[QUOTE=Bule2004;1477423]On the topic of older mongerers, earlier this month, I joined Indonesian Cupid (IC) earlier this month. I was somewhat apprehensive that my age, mid-60s, would be a turnoff to the cute ceweks I sought. I need not have worried![/QUOTE]In my experience, the girls who say they are open to men "18. 70" are pretty much always hookers. I'm just getting to the age where I notice I'm being excluded from a lot of women's "acceptable age range." Even so, if you send them a note to say hi, they often find they'll make an exception for you. I wish we had a special section of this forum just for online dating forums in Indonesia. Completely different ball game from P4P, really. I'm beginning to think that there's been a bit of a sexual revolution in Indonesia over the past fifteen years, when I first got here. I'm sure it wasn't that easy to meet nice, well brought up women who frankly just want a good shag back then. Or does it actually get easier when you get older? Well, perhaps I was a bit more naive and idealistic about life back then.

EDIT: I wish the automated punctuation police on this forum would lighten up a bit! I meant "18 to 70", I used a dash, and it got automatically edited into a full stop! I can't use both an exclamation mark and a question mark at the end of a sentence! No big one, but really!

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two; 1477460]In my experience, the girls who say they are open to men "18. 70" are pretty much always hookers. I'm just getting to the age where I notice I'm being excluded from a lot of women's "acceptable age range." Even so, if you send them a note to say hi, they often find they'll make an exception for you. I wish we had a special section of this forum just for online dating forums in Indonesia. Completely different ball game from P4P, really. I'm beginning to think that there's been a bit of a sexual revolution in Indonesia over the past fifteen years, when I first got here. I'm sure it wasn't that easy to meet nice, well brought up women who frankly just want a good shag back then. Or does it actually get easier when you get older? Well, perhaps I was a bit more naive and idealistic about life back then.

EDIT: I wish the automated punctuation police on this forum would lighten up a bit! I meant "18 to 70", I used a dash, and it got automatically edited into a full stop! I can't use both an exclamation mark and a question mark at the end of a sentence! No big one, but really![/QUOTE]I have lived in Indonesia longer than 15 years, and I think you made two excellent points:

1. There has been a "sexual revolution in Indonesia" after the 1997/98 KrisMon. I will leave it up to someone with a higher pay grade to corrolate the economics and sex; and.

2. It does get easier, as a guy gets older, to increase his hit rate with non pros (and the occassional pro). My experience with IC women who state they are "open to men "18. 70"" is that they really want a more mature, oftentimes more inteligent man, so typically makes more money that the stud (no offense to the studs out there).

Honestly, I think I can continue to do this for the next twenty years, and I am in my mid 60s. Would I look foolish doing that? Or would the pleasure I would get make up for looking foolish.

Bule2004

[QUOTE=MarkIII; 1477301]Guys, I got this girl in my facebook, she has a really old boyfriend (65-70) , he brings her to the Maladives etc.

He spoils her and she "spoils" him. Not bad for a 70 year old guy. So who is stupid? .

If I am 70 and a cute girl like that rides my dick every day (or week) I would be really happy. I guess he knew she wasn't a virgin.

Mark[/QUOTE]I have all the respect in the world for a guy like that. Life is to be enjoyed. There's nothing wrong with having a Blok M tart for a companion (or even wife) at that age.