Jakarta

[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1481068]There's nothing to worry even if you go to BATS. Security is pretty tight there. They don't want shit to happen on their premises.

I have thrown out women who did not honour their part of the agreement and been threatened. Those are just empty threats. Complain about the broad to security at BATS if she really threatened you and they will ban her.

I really don't like to treat women bad or argue for USD20 but like you, I stand by 'principles' LOL.

I normally stay at a 5* hotel and no one is going to come into your room without your permission in South East Asia! PERIOD![/QUOTE][QUOTE=McMaiden; 1481068]There's nothing to worry even if you go to BATS. Security is pretty tight there. They don't want shit to happen on their premises.

I have thrown out women who did not honour their part of the agreement and been threatened. Those are just empty threats. Complain about the broad to security at BATS if she really threatened you and they will ban her.

I really don't like to treat women bad or argue for USD20 but like you, I stand by 'principles' LOL.

I normally stay at a 5* hotel and no one is going to come into your room without your permission in South East Asia! PERIOD![/QUOTE]Good point. Could be applied to anywhere (eg, HK). Threaten the source of their income and watch them go pale. Obviously, agreement over services is a bit different then say, getting the plumber to come in, but a deals a deal. Unfortunately, you can't really take your issues to arbitration. Haha.

Thanks for the replies guys. Anyway it's night 6 and 2am, not sleepy yet so I may as well write a bit.

Day 2

Wandered down to One of the Delta spa branches. For those who don't know, it's has spa / sauna facilitates and massage for 2 hours with HE. Variations of mud therapy, hot stone, shiatsu, body scrub. Ended up with a lovely 19 year old girl, and with her limited English and my hazy Bahasa managed to get by. Actually the highlight of my trip I reckon. I returned twice more, buying her chocolate and some jewellery, little bit attached, alas she gave me her number. Will stay In touch, tho I have no idea when I'll be back. Oh yeah, price is about 580-620k for basic room. ++for drinks, tips, etc.

After this, ended up at Hotel Classic, level 2. Pounced on by a shapely, tall, pretty girl. Average session, over pretty quickly. Suckered into the 2 for 1 Bali Hai deal. I can see why there's a deal, what a terrible beer.

Made my way up to level 5. Not as busy. Made my way over to the far end as there were more girls there, asked Mamasan for girl who can "cakap inggris". Good result, petite, pretty young thing. (Both 20 years old!). Anyway, to the room, she lights up a smoke, tell her it's bad for her health, she tells me drinking is bad. LOL, good point. Nice session.

Money is still 315k for one girl. 450k for two.

Day 3.

Was supposed to meet a girl from DIA who normally works in Medan, but was coming back to Jakarta for the weekend. Had been chatting over what'sapp for few weeks before I left home, anyway she seem keen enough to meet. Mix up earlier in the day, meant I was at Plaza Senayan and she at Grand Indonesia, with her expecting me to meet her there. Unfortunately because my phone was playing up I went home and only got her msgs later saying she was waiting for me. OOP. Profusely apologetic. Anyway, the pm catch up was a spur of the moment thing, was supposed to meet her and friends out that night. I need to add at this point she had said she was looking for a bf, and I fun. I'd already resigned myself to spending lots of money without much in the way of return, but I though why the hell not, least I could say I checked out the legit Jakarta scene, and I spend money on normal clubbing anyway back home.

Initial plan was 11pm at X2. Enquire at about 1015 if that's still on, told more like 1130-12 (she's at the Marriott with her friend BTW) , I say no problem. 1115 I walk out of my hotel and head to 7-11 to grab some gum, msg asking when they're leaving, now I'm told 12. Apparently her friend is there and it's dead. Goes on to say we might be changing venues before saying no, x2 is on. Ok fine, by this time it's 1145. I ask what time they're leaving, now I told in 30 mins. And venue is now Dragonfly.

Getting very jack of this I write that I will be getting into a cab at 1220 and will msg to see if they've left, if not, I say I will not be coming and to have a good night. Alas. 1220 comes and goes, no reply. And nothing since. No apology, nothing. I'm too old to let girls fuck me around like this.

So all dressed up and nowhere to go, I decide to try Blok M. Top Gun busy, everywhere else pretty dead. BTW, what's with the dancing girls periodically being dragged around to various guys in My Bar? Back at Top Gun, one woman introduces me to her "sister". She is 20, from Yogyakarta, slim big eyes, few crooked teeth, and a look which I can best describe as "provincial". Anyway, the other woman is not her sister but her friend, and appears to be pimping her out. Two annoying older women start massaging my back, and require 5k (2 would've been sufficient I guess but I wanted to make sure they would leave) to get rid of. Anyway, we come to terms. 800k for LT (clearly I didn't learn my lesson). Nice enough session in hotel, agreement was to stay til 9-10am. 2 shots. Well, she kos til 11am until I wake her for round 2, snoring being a feature. But s nice girl, I find out her friend is taking a 100k cut so my tip covers that.

Day 4.

Return visit to Delta.

In the evening, decide initially on Hotel Travel, but as I'm passing Sparks Hotel on Mangga Besar I hop out to try the "thematic sex". Room is 850k for 75 mins, and as the name implies, is themed. You have royal suite, doctors office, CT scanner, jail, jungle, train, strip club and a few others. Pick an average size girl, lacklustre session, hampered by complete lack of English. Oh well, did her multiple positions on the couch and desk so fun enough. Damage. 850k for the room so pricey. One other bule guy there wasn't impressed that his requested girl had been allegedly sick for 8 days. Oops.

Was considering kicking on to Ckassic but was shagged (literally) so back home.

Day 5.

Return visit to Delta. I say my goodbyes, I think she is really sad I won't be back. Me too actually, I really do like her.

Return to Classic. Try level 5 first in an attempt to find the girl from before, no such luck. Down to level 2, not a great deal, one Mamasan has me talking to a girl from Bandung, echo then abruptly leaves and is replaced by another girl from Bandung, but not very friendly.

Go for a wander, settle elsewhere. Ask for English speaker, told level 5 is better, considering a return upstairs when a nice girl is plonked in frontof me. A from Jakarta, the tender age of 19, and only her second day at Terminal Classic. Chatty enough girl, retire to room, session not the best, BBBJ for a matter of seconds but I let it pass. I could tell she was new as she couldn't find our room initially haha. She did seem a bit wide-eyed and bushy tailed about everything, asking if I was coming back tomorrow, how many other girls ID been with. Now, I feel I'm nice enough, treat the girls well, show them respect, and was actually worried that being day 2, some douchebag is going to ruin her outlook on everything. I tell her to try and get out when she can, but she tells me her parents need to eat. This isn't me being sanctimonious, just genuine concern for her. Alas, what to do.

So ends my time here, on the whole, the Indonesian girls I've been with seem to have been more attractive than in the Philippines, though that could just be bad choices. Hard pressed to say who is more attractive.

Not sure why so many Indo guys go to places like Classsic, most don't seem to be doing much banging. And how do they seem to keep the girls forever and ever without being hassles to take them?

So, Jakarta, good place for good fun, though not much else to do here. Not as well spelled out as in somewhere like Thailand or Angeles, but then where is? If you like your girls pretty and brown, moderate build, long black hair, Indonesia is a good place. Only thing you will struggle with is the language, unless you stick to the bule orientated places of Bats etc and Blok M.

Next stop, Pattaya! Land of more slim Brown girls. Yes I doing the Brown girl black hair tour of Asia. Huzzah!

[QUOTE=Egy Monger; 1479965]I've never seen the point in trying to negotiate with a freelancer over LT because they will almost certainly give you the "capek" excuse after the first shot, so if you want a proper LT, go book them on-site at King's Cross, Stadium etc, because this way she knows you can complain if she didn't service you but it's expensive.

By the way, Blok M ST is 750, 00k + taxi, if they won't budge then try later before closing time they might change their minds and in my experience always worked especially if it's a weekday not a weekend.[/QUOTE]It's been two years since my last take-away from Blok M, so thanks for the update. In these two years I have gone for Maribaya girls who are happy to make house calls and occasionally bring along a non-Maribaya friend.

Rates for BBBJ's in the VIP room have gone up last year, but seeing your other Blok M post this looks to be depending on the individual girl.

Will see next time.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1477138]I know a few, but not many. There are some Pretty Woman stories from the blok where the girl remained faithful and the marriage worked out well, believe it or not.[/QUOTE]Agree. I haven't seen either Sari or Novi Kecil back in Blok M. The Maribaya mamasan says they are both married and I wish them both well. They fully deserve it, although as the selfish bastard that I sometimes am I would love to see them back. As I would love to encounter Shella.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Egy Monger; 1479965]I've never seen the point in trying to negotiate with a freelancer over LT because they will almost certainly give you the "capek" excuse after the first shot, so if you want a proper LT, go book them on-site at King's Cross, Stadium etc, because this way she knows you can complain if she didn't service you but it's expensive.

By the way, Blok M ST is 750, 00k + taxi, if they won't budge then try later before closing time they might change their minds and in my experience always worked especially if it's a weekday not a weekend.[/QUOTE]Its all about attitude and chemistry. Some girls are straight liars for money and say anything to get into your room. Once in, their surface of friendliness is changing and you deal with a starfish or crack-w#re. Some are selective on their partner and may forego a good offer if they not feel comfortable with the guy.

Last week I did roam TopHat and the alikes. Pulled 2 times girls out on different dates before midnight. All did ask for 1Juta. And both finally agreed on 600. 000 to stay LT at least till 8:00 am next morning, and they did!

One of them a real nymphomaniac: got sore and had to pause one day because of her.

[QUOTE=Botaki6;1481310]One of them a real nymphomaniac: got sore and had to pause one day because of her.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you must've struck Raney out of TG. Sit her there cowgirl and she will ride all night or as long as you can take it, orgasming countless times, the archetypical 'happy hooker'. A real bonus is she's always fun and never greedy. Never met anyone like her in 30 years! As she leaves, always asking with a smile 'you sure you don't want one more. ? ' Our kind of gal.

[QUOTE=Zeppelin029; 1481266]Day 3.

Was supposed to meet a girl from DIA who normally works in Medan, but was coming back to Jakarta for the weekend. Had been chatting over what'sapp for few weeks before I left home, anyway she seem keen enough to meet. Mix up earlier in the day, meant I was at Plaza Senayan and she at Grand Indonesia, with her expecting me to meet her there. Unfortunately because my phone was playing up I went home and only got her msgs later saying she was waiting for me. OOP. Profusely apologetic. Anyway, the pm catch up was a spur of the moment thing, was supposed to meet her and friends out that night. I need to add at this point she had said she was looking for a bf, and I fun. I'd already resigned myself to spending lots of money without much in the way of return, but I though why the hell not, least I could say I checked out the legit Jakarta scene, and I spend money on normal clubbing anyway back home.

Initial plan was 11pm at X2. Enquire at about 1015 if that's still on, told more like 1130-12 (she's at the Marriott with her friend BTW) , I say no problem. 1115 I walk out of my hotel and head to 7-11 to grab some gum, msg asking when they're leaving, now I'm told 12. Apparently her friend is there and it's dead. Goes on to say we might be changing venues before saying no, x2 is on. Ok fine, by this time it's 1145. I ask what time they're leaving, now I told in 30 mins. And venue is now Dragonfly.

Getting very jack of this I write that I will be getting into a cab at 1220 and will msg to see if they've left, if not, I say I will not be coming and to have a good night. Alas. 1220 comes and goes, no reply. And nothing since. No apology, nothing. I'm too old to let girls fuck me around like this.

Day 5.

Return visit to Delta. I say my goodbyes, I think she is really sad I won't be back. Me too actually, I really do like her.[/QUOTE]Menteng and Jad advised me several years back to make at least one back up date and never to wait more than half an hour for a girl (that's why you need a back up). Mind you it does sound like your girl was using you as a back up plan too. It's happened to more of us than we'd care to admit. The Plaza Senayan / Grand Indo sounds like a convenient excuse too if you ask me. You should probably have tried to get your Delta girl out in the daytime sometime. It might just have reaped some rewards. I almost fell down laughing when you mentioned chocolates as that's my MO too:D.

[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1481094]Usual trip to Jakarta. Was staying at the Mulia. Went down to CJ's to check out the scene. Was there on a Wednesday (Ladies Nite). Really crowded and sorry to say that CJ's has seen much better days with regards to the girls available. Ratio of 60:40 / men:women. Not a good ratio for punting.

Just casually walked around and surveyed the scene. Got talking to a few. One girl was slim and was chatty. Just continued chatting until 2 and she said that she was sleepy. I said that she could sleep in my room. Unfortunately, both of us were not carrying condoms. So just went to sleep. Little McM woke a few times in the nite but somehow goaded him to sleep.

Could not do for long. Played around with her tits and she 'woke up'. Handjob for me. Tried to push her head down but no luck. Finished and went back to sleep. In the morning, gave her 200K for the privilege of her company. She said 'All pay 1 Juta'. I said that they pay for sex while she should be paying me for sleeping in a nice room. Anyway, gave her 300K. I should not have paid but I was really in no mood to argue and wanted to go back to sleep.

First trip to Jakarta without sampling the local produce LOL.

I have heard a lot about Red Square from my friends and how its a nice place to pick up normal girls. From my experience, there were not too many normal girls there. Its CJ's with more smoke, less girls and more crowd.

McM[/QUOTE]I know how it is to stick to your guns and go back empty. CJs prices have long since become very inflated and hardly worth it. Most of the P4P girls there are pretty mercenary. I'm not surprised the girl asked you for 1 juta. Red Square depends on the ratio and your luck. Those other guys must have been desperate as well as rude. I wouldn't cut in on a negotiation like that, or accept those prices. That's why I've given up this "fishing" for some time now and moved into the dating scene.

MD II

Sorry to pose a question my first time on the Indonesia board, but I have contributed on the Vietnam and Macau board. I haven't gone to Jakarta yet, but may plan a trip soon. I wanted to know if they have saunas much like Macau. Especially looking for saunas that would have Vietnamese girls working. Not looking to pick up from the street or clubs. Just my preference. I enjoy the sauna atmosphere. Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Botaki6;1481310]Last week I did roam TopHat and the alikes. Pulled 2 times girls out on different dates before midnight. All did ask for 1Juta. And both finally agreed on 600. 000 to stay LT at least till 8:00 am next morning, and they did! .[/QUOTE]I assume you meant TopGun. Yes. 600k for LT is definitely a good deal. Which day of the week was it and what time?

[QUOTE=Viet Lover;1481512]Sorry to pose a question my first time on the Indonesia board, but I have contributed on the Vietnam and Macau board. I haven't gone to Jakarta yet, but may plan a trip soon. I wanted to know if they have saunas much like Macau. Especially looking for saunas that would have Vietnamese girls working. Not looking to pick up from the street or clubs. Just my preference. I enjoy the sauna atmosphere. Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]To Viet Lover.

The Sauna in Macau is much better than in Jarkata girl Quality is better but Jarkata also have some nice KTV and club much larger than the Macau sauna place like Alexis, Mailboro and Sumo are entertainment center with everything price is cheaper than Macau.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1481599]To Viet Lover.

The Sauna in Macau is much better than in Jakarta girl Quality is better but Jarkata also have some nice KTV and club much larger than the Macau sauna place like Alexis, Mailboro and Sumo are entertainment center with everything price is cheaper than Macau.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=Viet Lover;1481512]Sorry to pose a question my first time on the Indonesia board, but I have contributed on the Vietnam and Macau board. I haven't gone to Jakarta yet, but may plan a trip soon. I wanted to know if they have saunas much like Macau. Especially looking for saunas that would have Vietnamese girls working. Not looking to pick up from the street or clubs. Just my preference. I enjoy the sauna atmosphere. Much appreciated.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]As Fast Eddie said, your best bets for a true sauna are Malioboro (more-or-less in central Jakarta), Alexis (in the northern part of Jakarta near the ocean, and the most expensive of the 3 places) and Sumo Shiatsu (located in northeastern Jakarta in Kelapa Gading, a good 30 minute ride by taxi). I like all 3 places but Malioboro may be the easiest to deal with, both location and price-wise.

But I doubt if you'll find many Vietnamese girls in any of those places. If you're really set on finding a sauna in Jakarta with Vietnamese girls, you should contact Jakarta After Dark 2, who's most likely to know (you can find him at the beginning of the Classified Ads section, his member name is "Jkt After Dark 2").

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1481472]Menteng and Jad advised me several years back to make at least one back up date and never to wait more than half an hour for a girl (that's why you need a back up). Mind you it does sound like your girl was using you as a back up plan too. It's happened to more of us than we'd care to admit. The Plaza Senayan / Grand Indo sounds like a convenient excuse too if you ask me. You should probably have tried to get your Delta girl out in the daytime sometime. It might just have reaped some rewards. I almost fell down laughing when you mentioned chocolates as that's my MO too.

MD II[/QUOTE]I should clarify, I was already at Plaza Senayan. The she told me she was at Grand Indo, and I wasn't sure if she was going to wait for me, hence the mix up.

Looking at the map though, it would seem to make more sense for her to come to Senayan before going on to the Marriott. Clearly a case of "I say jump, you jump". Oh well, c'est la vie.

Re Delta girl, I did! But she told me she works everyday 12pm-11pm and apparently they live upstairs? Ah well, she was keen tho, her next days off we're in mid October and she was asking if Id be in Jakarta.

Thank you guys for the quick response. I will be sure to look into those 3 places and report back. Looking for Vietnamese mostly, so I guess I'll give Jakarta After Dark a shout.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1481762]As Fast Eddie said, your best bets for a true sauna are Malioboro (more-or-less in central Jakarta) , Alexis (in the northern part of Jakarta near the ocean, and the most expensive of the 3 places) and Sumo Shiatsu (located in northeastern Jakarta in Kelapa Gading, a good 30 minute ride by taxi). I like all 3 places but Malioboro may be the easiest to deal with, both location and price-wise.

But I doubt if you'll find many Vietnamese girls in any of those places.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say that you won't find many Vietnamese girls in those places. I think they have a pretty decent supply. Alexis had about 12 Vietnamese girls the last time I was there and 6 of them were stunners. I thought those Vietnamese girls were the best looking in Alexis at the time out of all the girls in their stock. I was in Malioboro a few weeks ago, and there are not many Viet girls there (maybe 6) , but one of them is a real stunning spinner. She reminds me of a Vietnamese version of Christina Applegate. Gorgeous girl with a great attitude.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1481892]I wouldn't say that you won't find many Vietnamese girls in those places. I think they have a pretty decent supply. Alexis had about 12 Vietnamese girls the last time I was there and 6 of them were stunners. I thought those Vietnamese girls were the best looking in Alexis at the time out of all the girls in their stock. I was in Malioboro a few weeks ago, and there are not many Viet girls there (maybe 6) , but one of them is a real stunning spinner. She reminds me of a Vietnamese version of Christina Applegate. Gorgeous girl with a great attitude.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, Smoothy. I'm happy to admit when I'm incorrect, I had no idea that there were that many Vietnamese girls available.

Viet Lover, I'm looking forward to your reports.

You'll find a handful of Vietnamese, maybe 7 or 8, at Classic Bunker too.