Angeles City

[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1124300]Unfortunately, I have to agree. During my last trip to AC, I heard these phrases over and over:

"I"m on mentstration",

"I don't do blowjobs",

"Only short time". My rebuttal was always "Well, then do I pay half price?"

I was actually quite shocked that I was really in AC. I had to pinch myself to make sure I wasn't in a nightmare.

I ended up having some good rides but it was so draining having to go through all the obstacles and questionaires. Also, I had to return a few girls to the bars and get my money back.

I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from visiting, but just be prepared for a different vibe if you haven't been to AC in awhile. [/QUOTE]The reason why more and more girls are and will become spoiled in AC is because of the unexperienced mongers who spoil the girls accordingly. It seems that many mongers who come to AC for a short trip nowadays by low cost airlines from rich cities just want to spend money. These unexperienced mongers demand less from the girls, overpay them and in consequence ruin the prices. Maybe these unexperienced mongers just want to have a talk or a quick handjob by the girl. The consequence is that the mongers who really want to have a good time and really want to have good sex and a very good service from the girls get fewer and fewer girls in AC who really are willing to do it. In the next consequence the professional mongers will look for other spots.

For me AC is not among the Top 5 spots in Asia anymore.

[QUOTE=Pussycheck;1124551]These unexperienced mongers demand less from the girls, overpay them and in consequence ruin the prices. Maybe these unexperienced mongers just want to have a talk or a quick handjob by the girl.[/QUOTE]I've talked to a few girls I know and they've told me that guys will pay barfine just to barhop and no sex. I find this hard to believe, but maybe its true.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1124662]I've talked to a few girls I know and they've told me that guys will pay barfine just to barhop and no sex. I find this hard to believe, but maybe its true.[/QUOTE]Its true. Girls in Body Shop and Geckos have told me that. Sometimes a group of korean guys will come in and pick 3-4 girls and barfine the girls around 8pm. Then the guys leave the bar and go bar-hopping elsewhere, then return closer to closing time and take the girls. The girls report back the next day to work saying the korean she was with didn't even want sex, just to sleep with her. They also tell me that the koreans will sit and buy drinks for several hours, running up a large tab. Then the guys pay the tab and leave at closing time, heading off to their hotel with no girl. They are just into paying big LD prices and chatting the girls. Seems to me to be a holdover of the KTV bars, where they are used to paying large drink prices to sit and chat with pretty young things. Another odd scenario is the guy who buys her LD's for hours, then barfines her and takes her to his hotel for a quickie and kicks her out. Seems odd behavior to me; more like a way to empty your wallet and minimize your fun?

I have heard the stories too. I have even heard of westerners that do this occasionally as well. One ABC guest paid a girl for 3 nights and tipped her as well (that is 3000 peso bar fine + 1000 tip each night) just to barhop with her. No sex. He is a VIP guest as well, frequent visitor. Still can't figure that one, and I have heard it on 2 occasions (separate trips) from 2 different girls. To each his own.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1124681]Its true. Girls in Body Shop and Geckos have told me that. Sometimes a group of korean guys will come in and pick 3-4 girls and barfine the girls around 8pm. Then the guys leave the bar and go bar-hopping elsewhere, then return closer to closing time and take the girls. The girls report back the next day to work saying the korean she was with didn't even want sex, just to sleep with her. They also tell me that the koreans will sit and buy drinks for several hours, running up a large tab. Then the guys pay the tab and leave at closing time, heading off to their hotel with no girl. They are just into paying big LD prices and chatting the girls. Seems to me to be a holdover of the KTV bars, where they are used to paying large drink prices to sit and chat with pretty young things. Another odd scenario is the guy who buys her LD's for hours, then barfines her and takes her to his hotel for a quickie and kicks her out. Seems odd behavior to me; more like a way to empty your wallet and minimize your fun?[/QUOTE]

The bad part is that the Koreans are spoiling the girls when they over pay. That is why the girls flock over them. But the good part is the girls are still fresh when you get the chance to bar fine them. Hahaha

[QUOTE=Pussycheck; 1124551]The reason why more and more girls are and will become spoiled in AC is because of the unexperienced mongers who spoil the girls accordingly. It seems that many mongers who come to AC for a short trip nowadays by low cost airlines from rich cities just want to spend money. These unexperienced mongers demand less from the girls, overpay them and in consequence ruin the prices. Maybe these unexperienced mongers just want to have a talk or a quick handjob by the girl. The consequence is that the mongers who really want to have a good time and really want to have good sex and a very good service from the girls get fewer and fewer girls in AC who really are willing to do it. In the next consequence the professional mongers will look for other spots.

For me AC is not among the Top 5 spots in Asia anymore. [/QUOTE]Despite all the negatives in AC, I still count it as one of my top 5 asia sites (as it is still relatively cheap).

Just curious, what would you list as your top 5 asia spots. But please list them based on comparable prices to AC as to be on even level on the playing field, as I could also easily list many top places but the prices will be 5x higher than AC and I would not list this as it would be unfair.

FZ

[QUOTE=Cherry2000; 1124130]After my last post it got me thinking. Has anyone been out west to the bars in Korea Town? I know someone posted the same question about a month ago but I never saw a reply.

Please Pm if you you don't want to post here for any reason.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Not that many bars that cater to our taste out that way but there are 1 or 2 that are ok. Also a few KTV (but this is mostly for Koreans)

The most famous bar is Jolly Frogs and I remember another member writing about it a few months ago. I think the member name was phantomtiger or was it phantomtiger2? Just have to look him up.

FZ

[QUOTE=Shipwreck;1124182]I do have questions, where is the best place for vitamin V or C? And how much? Is it safe to buy it from street vendors?[/QUOTE]Best to have the Vitamins in hand BEFORE arriving to AC. Heard many fakes out there in AC and also heard many are real but expired for some times but repacked into newer boxes.

Also, as some have suggested, avoid the street vendors if possible.

FZ

[QUOTE=Pussycheck;1124551]The reason why more and more girls are and will become spoiled in AC is because of the unexperienced mongers who spoil the girls accordingly. For me AC is not among the Top 5 spots in Asia anymore.[/QUOTE]Free market.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1124662]I've talked to a few girls I know and they've told me that guys will pay barfine just to barhop and no sex. I find this hard to believe, but maybe its true.[/QUOTE]Of course its not only Koreans who do it. I know for a fact because I along with a friend did it. We bar fined girls we wanted for the night and we also short time 2 of their friends. So the 8 of us went to sky tracks. Drank, danced and partied. At the end we send the friends back to the bar and we both had our LT fines who spent the night. So after reading this I guess we are guilty too. But when you out celebrating. And just get laid isn't the only mission in your night. And fun and pariying is. Its feasible. Its just a different mindset.

Its no different the guys who will only stay in 4 star Hotels or close to that level versus guys who only need the basics in there rooms. Well fewer and fewer Basic only hotels are being built and more and more upscale Hotels are. So economics of AC is going up all around. Theres no stopping it.

[QUOTE=Freezone; 1124758]Despite all the negatives in AC, I still count it as one of my top 5 asia sites (as it is still relatively cheap).

Just curious, what would you list as your top 5 asia spots. But please list them based on comparable prices to AC as to be on even level on the playing field, as I could also easily list many top places but the prices will be 5x higher than AC and I would not list this as it would be unfair.

FZ[/QUOTE]Yes, compared to the price you have to pay for a girl in AC there are not so many sites in Asia which can compare. Yes, the prices of the top places for P6 I would list here would be higher than in AC.

Yes, if you're just looking for cheap sex AC is still very good. No complain from my side.

Ok, here are other options for cheap sex:

Changping (China)

Girls from BBS: from 150 RMB per shot.

Of course Pattaya (Thailand)

There you have a beach and sea as well and the food there is much more better than in AC

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1124715]I have heard the stories too. I have even heard of westerners that do this occasionally as well. One ABC guest paid a girl for 3 nights and tipped her as well (that is 3000 peso bar fine + 1000 tip each night) just to barhop with her. No sex. He is a VIP guest as well, frequent visitor. Still can't figure that one, and I have heard it on 2 occasions (separate trips) from 2 different girls. To each his own.[/QUOTE]I know these stories too and it's true.

[QUOTE=Pussycheck;1124967]I know these stories too and it's true.[/QUOTE]Maybe or maybe not.

Many girls do not want to disclose they had sex with the guy. For some reason they get some imaginary clout if they took advantage of the guy who barfined them.

In my experience I barfined a beautifull girl from agasya. We screwed around like jack rabbits all night. In the morning I suggested her to take a ride with me to Subic to see the place. She agreed and asked me if she could bring her friend. So we all took the ride. In conversation during my friends absence her friend asked me if we had sex because my girl told her friend that we only slept together and no sex. When my girl returned I asked her why she lied? Later in the room she explained that all girls lie like that to make the other bargirls jealous for not putting out and taking advantage of us punters. It seems it is a game they play.

Bottom line is whoever takes advantage of us punters gets a imaginary step up.

[QUOTE=Freezone;1124762]Best to have the Vitamins in hand BEFORE arriving to AC. Heard many fakes out there in AC and also heard many are real but expired for some times but repacked into newer boxes. Also, as some have suggested, avoid the street vendors if possible. FZ[/QUOTE]Expect to pay the manufacturer's price for these, whereas other drugs are usually cheap in the Phils. Some of the Mercury Drugs stores will insist on prescription for blues and yellows, others won't. But if you show up with a prescription from home, even a phony one, it will probably fly. The pharmacy clerks are not pharmacists, and they ask for prescriptions because they've been told to. But that doesn't mean they really understand the world of pharmaceutical regulations. There's a smaller chain called Star Drugs. They are often in Rustans and Robinsons Supermarkets. I've never had them ask me for prescriptions.

Hey guys, thanks for all the reports and info on this little gem called Fields Ave.

I am a 15 mongering veteran, have spent some time in Thailand and Vietnam checking out the scene and am a regular patron of our fine mongering scene here in Honolulu but have only recently heard about AC and the more I learn the more excited I get. I do wish I would have known about it five or six years ago though, but life is seldom perfect.

I'm going to AC in mid to late May for 9 nights ending Memorial Day as this is the most convenient time for me to get away from work. My plan is for Sat-Mon nights in AC, grab a hottie for 2 nights of GFE at Subic and then Thur-Sun back in AC and maybe Mon too. Here's the particulars and the questions:

I'm 33, look younger than that with classic American good looks that most women find attractive. I've been ran around the block once or twice so I'm not worried about falling for scams and I think I'm going to have a GREAT. Time there. I will be staying at either Fields Plaza Suites, ABC, or Wild Orchid in AC and either Arizona Resort or Vista Marina in Subic.

What is the local attitude regarding 420 friendly activities? Is it possible to procure there or do I have to worry about locals or girls setting me up with the police? What about other party additives like X or Yayo? Do the girls have any exposure to these or are they going to totally freak out if that kind of action starts happening? The 420 materials are the only ones I'm REALLY concerned about though. Would not like enduring a vacation without firing up a nice fatty every couple of hours or so. Please help.