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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2021682]Do you guys think there will be a large exodus to Austrian and Swiss clubs as a result of this new law or do you think that things will stay more or less.
The same after perhaps an initial few weeks as people get used to the new rules?
I personally think the latter will happen and for once agree with Sirioja that it is not in the girls interest to 'tell' on customers; however I do think that BBBJ will probably become an extra; after all AO is already illegal in most clubs but people get offered it all the time.
What do you think?[/QUOTE]There will be increase in sexual crime in Germany after July due to mass desire for BBBJ by those who cannot get any LOL.
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2021738]It is common knowledge that west Europe is feminist. It is over for is mongers. No different to America.
The women in Germany wear the pants so to speak. That is why they won't work in FKK. They think they are too good for this important and essential work. I have many fond memories of FKK. So if it ends. It ends. I think the business model will fail. There is no point in FKK without BBBJ.
The Romanian girls are not going anywhere. Next will be Ukraine. Good times ahead for all mongers. Personally I got lazy and lost my hunting skills due to the ease of FKK club. LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree with this German new law to try to protect these women health, also not anymore sleeping where they are fucked. After 1 July, each one his job to get with girls.
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Turning down approaches
How do you guys deal with saying no to approaches? I usually say I've just had a session and I'm relaxing or I just got here and I'm having a look around. I feel kinda bad doing it especially when a girl approaches you multiple times and then looks kinda downcast for the rest of the evening. I know there's a limit to what a guy can do in one night haha but it kinda bugged me after my last trip.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2021207]The law clearly mentioned condom use during sexual intercourse.
Look at legal definition of sexual intercourse.
Sexual intercourse, or coitus or copulation, is principally the insertion and thrusting of the penis, usually when erect, into the vagina for sexual pleasure, reproduction, or both.
There for BBBJ do not count as sexual intercourse legally because it is into mouth and not vagina.
It is all hype that we created and legally BBBJ is not included. It is like this here in Japan. Sexual intercourse service is illegal and BBBJ is legal as BBBJ is not sexual intercourse legally.[/QUOTE]Mr. Ho, as usual you speak without knowledge.
There is not the least doubt under the German law that blowjobs [B]are[/B] included in the ban on unprotected sex.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;2021862]Mr. Ho, as usual you speak without knowledge.
There is not the least doubt under the German law that blowjobs [B]are[/B] included in the ban on unprotected sex.[/QUOTE]Read the law translation, you speak without source LOL.
It does not say sex, it uses word sexual intercourse. At least the translation I read way below.
Use of word in law is very important to decide the coverage and extent of the law.
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2021723]Er, Germany is not a Communist country. That would be China and North Korea![/QUOTE]I went to China many times for holiday, it sure did not look like a communist LOL.
North Korea, I almost went for marathon, but I noticed I will be put on watch list by popo here, so I did not LOL.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;2021814]Whatever. The German law is the German law and that is all I was stating here. What is legal or not in Japan doesn't matter here. So if you prefer Japanese laws, go visit Japan.
HB.[/QUOTE]LOL I don't like Japanese.
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[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2021697]If man jerks off and finishes into girl's mouth -- no penis contact with mouth -- is this oral sex?[/QUOTE]If man has covered vaginal sex, cum in the condom, but secretly put the sperm into the girl's coke from the condom, and the girl drinks it with joy, is this oral sex?
Will FKK Gestapo examine girls' mouth after each session to see whether there is any DNA left in their mouth?
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2021278]Will these under cover german police women do anal and can I call them pig dirty police scum?[/QUOTE]I was pulled over by a blond German lady cop while leaving Sharks this February. She was very young and beautiful and in good shape. She had beautiful eyes too. She asked me if I was drunk and asked me to "blow" on her "device. " I wouldn't mind her being an undercover cop blowing on my device LOL! I was going to ask her when her shift was going end and if she wanted to make her next month salary tonight, but there was a guy cop with her standing behind my car and he just looked miserable. But I'd fuck that girl cop even if she ask me to double wrap my dick! LOL!
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False impression
False, false, false.
So many misunderstandings about East Asia from Eurocentrism.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2021692]Japan is not a feminist communist county like Germany.[/QUOTE]You're right about Japan's not being as feminist as Western Europe or North America, so they don't have so many men who are stuck in child support and alimony problems, but they're not as male-dominant as you may think.
I think you mistake Japan as some places where women have to obey men fully. You're thinking about the countries where all women have to wear hijabs. That's what you're thinking about, definitely not Japan.
And none of the above countries have to do with communism.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2021709]Great. Go to the FKKs in Japan then. I hear great things about them.
If you have the right facial features and skin color, that is.
Oops.[/QUOTE]Some venues in Japan does have a "no foreigner" policy, but that has nothing to do with ethnicity, it's about Japanese proficiency.
They don't want to deal with language barriers and foreigners who do not speak their first language often cause troubles, so they just simply reject foreigners to avoid troubles.
For example, a Japanese National born and raised in Dusseldorf and speaks German as first language, may also get rejected when going back to Japan, as long as the bouncer identifies him as a foreigner because of his lousy Japanese proficiency.
A white American who lives in Japan and speaks native speaker level Japanese wrote reports in his blogs, saying that he had successfully blended in those venues.
So, more like a "impatience and intolerance toward foreigners who do not speak the local lingua franca" problem, rather than a "ethnicity" problem.
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2021723]Er, Germany is not a Communist country. That would be China and North Korea![/QUOTE]Not sure about North Korea, because they never contact the outer world.
But saying China is still a communist country is like saying Russia is still the head of the Soviet Union World, which were all in the past already.
China is no different from Russia, Cuba, and many other ex-communist countries, all of which have been transforming themselves into capitalists.
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[QUOTE=Slayer666;2021838]How do you guys deal with saying no to approaches? I usually say I've just had a session and I'm relaxing or I just got here and I'm having a look around. I feel kinda bad doing it especially when a girl approaches you multiple times and then looks kinda downcast for the rest of the evening. I know there's a limit to what a guy can do in one night haha but it kinda bugged me after my last trip.[/QUOTE]I suggest reading the Oase thread from April 4th onwards where the same question was already posed and answered many times. Here is a link to the earlier-posed question:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=2018318&viewfull=1#post2018318[/URL]
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Also, this. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=2016999&viewfull=1#post2016999[/URL].
Just say you are waiting for a girl or had sex. Some of the more pursual ones will press onwards, and chances are it's a bad sign because it can show lack of respect for the patron.
Some girls will say they don't like to approach, maybe not so assertive. I'm cool with that.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2021765]And for all you anal lovers, Ukrainian girls take it up their ass, so it is good nationalities to dominate FKK![/QUOTE]You got that right! I told you by PM about the kind of stuff Ukrainian Claudia at Palace says in the room about anal LOL! Dirty, dirty, dirty! And I told everybody how she said, "Get in there, get in there! Don't be scared!" Hahaha! The best cornholers in the world I have encountered anywhere outside of Brazil are the Ukrainian and Ruskie girls working the clubs in Germany (a few in Spain too).
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2021714]They may (charge extra) because they can.[/QUOTE]Well this is precisely what I was saying indirectly. The price paid often has nothing to do with supply and demand or the reach of the law. A tute will charge what she can get, whether she or the monger will be the one subjected to fines for engaging in prostitution.
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[QUOTE= 2021480]If Germany truly want to be the world's NO. 1 sex land (Deutsexland, LOL), even surpasses Brazil or Thailand, next step, Germans should legalize the content of standard service in Germany..[/QUOTE]Do you seriously think any nation in this world, even a single one, sets out to be the world's #1 sex land and destination?
That all or many of its citizens want that status for their nation, and vote for such a thing?
Seriously!
Prostitution is tolerated and allowed in some nations, with various provisions and restrictions attached. It is legal in some places. But none of those countries explicitly set out to achieve some sort of official global status as the leading sex destination. Even if they benefit from the tourist and tax and other economic gains. Have you ever seen Any country put in their official travel brochures and promotions "come to our country, enjoy great mongering, we have more desirable prostitutes than anywhere else in the world"?
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