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[QUOTE=Martin39;2878962]Ingo visited Wellcum in his newest video and he liked the club and said that the top girls are above Globe (the lower percentile below). He gave honest feedback and had nothing bad to say about the club and admitted advantages like outside and a hotel attached to it. He claimed to have only gotten some petting and a massage in the room and didn't want sex so couldn't judge it. He did mention the 70 Euro rate. Almost sounded like an advertisement for Wellcum.
Unfortunately the club is on the wrong side of Austria (from Switzerland) but if closer to Zurich Globe would loose out and I think even Ingo saw it based on his feedback.
Sharks I did not like during my last visit but has more to do that I prefer not to have to negotiate everything up front. And it did get worse compared to earlier visits before Covid.[/QUOTE]Wellcum is a more beautiful club than Globe and with better foods, but most girls are low level for sex for Italians. If pony tail found it good, then I understand better for Niagara fall for Globe. Some prettier girls at Wellcum or in Hessen than at Globe.
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[QUOTE=Martin39;2878842]I doubt lowering the price will have a large effect on the club. There are already plenty of lower priced clubs and their pricing with all those special promotions is getting confusing enough (happy hour pricing, pre pay with food or without food, .) and they are not packed either.
One girl did tell me that she sees more customers just coming quite often for the wellness, free food and looking at shows / girls. I guess 95 CHF is a good price and you pay more at a strip club.
Treat your customers well and get the best girls with good service. One issue I see that the girls get worn out after a while with the long hours and strict rules. While the money is excellent the job is grueling and a larger amount is on legal or not so legal drugs.
Not sure if there is a solution or it's just a sign of changing times. Large German clubs like Artemis or Sharks are also not what they used to be.
For me I still enjoy the current status. While not as good as in the past there is no guarantee it won't get worse.[/QUOTE]In rich ZH, close to rich SZ, problem is not 150/30, but about quality, when real fall for girls quality since 2021 and many guys like me who know a bit FKK land, don't want to pay such rate for low quality = average looks, no elegance nor charm and average in bed, when I know where to find higher level for half. Rate.
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[QUOTE=AdamCki;2878902]Martin I agree that Artemis is almost a ghost of what it was once, quite disappointing. But IMHO both wellcum and Sharks are currently better than Globe for many reasons. Globe is 3rd in Europe and Golden Time Wien is very close. All the others best forgotten. I talk here about large or historical clubs only.[/QUOTE]When Sharks is really not at best since July, but turning upselling land with little average Romanians, but higher levels in Germany, out of touristic clubs, where can find higher level than at Globe for 150/60 or even less.
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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2878919]I think he said that the food was ok, one critique that the food wasn't replenished enough during the day.[/QUOTE]The reason the food does go quickly at Wellcum is that people actually want to eat it. So much more variety than Globe, including an extensive selection of desserts. Plus, most of the clientele are Italians who love their food.
One thing that couldn't have been lost on Ingo / Sunny is just how much nicer Wellcum is as an establishment. A return to Globe after a visit to Wellcum is a real letdown in that regard. And, at this time of year they wouldn't have experienced the lovely outdoor area. Wonder if he's scouting other clubs with a mind to a "new" Globe (something that's been speculated about since 2016).
Interesting he didn't experience the service levels of any of the Wellcum girls (his choice, of course). Based on my last Wellcum visit, it's one crucial aspect where he could have claimed Globe is far better.
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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2878919]I think he said that the food was ok, one critique that the food wasn't replenished enough during the day.[/QUOTE]Foods at Wellcum are really better than at Globe, but foods are best at Wellcum with Carinthians and little river. If I was not able for Zoncolan, I would not go to Wellcum. If I had to choose only between 2 , I would choose Globe, when Wellcum is for Italians level. He should go to visit Freubad on Summer, even disappointing on 2023 . If he wants to understand what is quality, he should visit Golden Gate where rooms are on another planet than low level Globe rooms.
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[QUOTE=Belbo;2878975]Agree, in the short terms the clubs makes more money, but in the long terms stories like that can only harm the club.
However, how do you prevent them form happening? A rich guy turns up, orders 12 bottle of champagne and books several girls; who is going to tell a girl that has to give away 2/3 hours of very easy money?
I do not believe that start competing on prices is a wise strategy for a club that aims at being the best in terms of beauty and performances; the only results would be the escape of the best girls.
Globe has to work to raise the bar in terms of beauty level, girls behavior and performances; reducing the price, counting that the services level and beauty will remain the same, is quite naive.
Better food would be for sure positive, but I am not sure it'll increase the number of customers, only the right girls will.
After my usual long pause (last time I was there and of August) I have recently decided to give Globe a chance, but I left the club still with mixed feelings. One day I was there on Wednesday, intrigued by the secretary day, and the level was honestly so so; another day there were more girls and I saw definitely an improvement, with a few new girls, quite tasty and attractive. The fact that no girl was arrogant was personally a plus; a very cute girl dismissed me after 45 seconds, but she was not impolite.
I had a session with another young girl, Jade, cute, interesting person, good conversation and who did her best to please me in the room; however, I would have liked more energy and movement! The second one with a true hurricane, the polish girl Ines, whom I personally find very sexy and would repeat in the future.
All in all, signs of improvement, in term of girls attitude and level of beauty; lets see if it'll continue or its is only a flash in the pan.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you. The food is a plus but the core business of a FKK are the girls. Personally I am a bit disgusted to eat in a FKK. To feel improvement you must go Thursday or Friday. Wednesday was never a good day. I remember in the past with lingerie day many top girls preferred to skip the day.
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Belbo for what I know in the clubs where they do the savings packets it's only the club who gets less (over mostly the entrance fee), the girl gets her standard rate which is unaffected by the packet cost.
Regarding the pseudo new mood, I want also the superstars and divas and the most booked to approach everyone now, not just the newcomers, good or bad they could be. If dats not the case or happenin, nothing has changed in the end I am sorry.
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[QUOTE=AdamCki;2879130]Belbo for what I know in the clubs where they do the savings packets it's only the club who gets less (over mostly the entrance fee), the girl gets her standard rate which is unaffected by the packet cost.
Regarding the pseudo new mood, I want also the superstars and divas and the most booked to approach everyone now, not just the newcomers, good or bad they could be. If dats not the case or happenin, nothing has changed in the end I am sorry.[/QUOTE]Your crusade against Globe is getting an obsession like the repetitive comments of the French guy. We all have understood your point of view. Just Aurelia and some others are and remain in Globe. You can choose to ignore them and have your attention to the positive changes that are not presumed as you pretend but are real changes or continue to focus on the darkness. Bring light and hapoyness to your hearth.
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[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2879012] Wonder if he's scouting other clubs with a mind to a "new" Globe (something that's been speculated about since 2016).[/QUOTE]I hope he gets ideas from other clubs. One comment from a girl was that the lower music volume came after his visit to Wellcum.
There are still rumors that Globe will move to a location near the airport when the current lease expires.
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[QUOTE=AdamCki;2879130]Belbo for what I know in the clubs where they do the savings packets it's only the club who gets less (over mostly the entrance fee), the girl gets her standard rate which is unaffected by the packet cost.
Regarding the pseudo new mood, I want also the superstars and divas and the most booked to approach everyone now, not just the newcomers, good or bad they could be. If dats not the case or happenin, nothing has changed in the end I am sorry.[/QUOTE]I was always surprised when I paid HH 199/60 with foods and drinks at Freubad and desk gave 100/30 to girls. I think HH 110/30 at History Imperium.
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[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2879012]Interesting he didn't experience the service levels of any of the Wellcum girls (his choice, of course). Based on my last Wellcum visit, it's one crucial aspect where he could have claimed Globe is far better.[/QUOTE]He said something that he had fun conversations with the girls who came to talk, Sunny as well. Ingo said that he was happy with the girl with whom he went to the room, she was active ("heavy petting") but then he decided he just wants massage. He said that if this is how a 30 min for EUR 70 starts, it's good value.
Of course, considering that the girls know him, it was most likely not a representative example.
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[QUOTE=Rondega978;2879153]Your crusade against Globe is getting an obsession like the repetitive comments of the French guy. We all have understood your point of view. Just Aurelia and some others are and remain in Globe. You can choose to ignore them and have your attention to the positive changes that are not presumed as you pretend but are real changes or continue to focus on the darkness. Bring light and hapoyness to your hearth.[/QUOTE]I'm very patient, when Kate was not even my best in FKK, nor even best charm, but for sure much more elegance and charm than since 2021 at porn Globe and it should not improve if Wellcum is reference, when really not high level girls for me since top GFE Lena. Ro 2017.
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[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2879012] most of the clientele are Italians who love their food.[/QUOTE]No doubt about that, looking at the guys I know at work Italians are very picky eaters.
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[QUOTE=Rondega978;2879100]I totally agree with you. The food is a plus but the core business of a FKK are the girls. Personally I am a bit disgusted to eat in a FKK. To feel improvement you must go Thursday or Friday. Wednesday was never a good day. I remember in the past with lingerie day many top girls preferred to skip the day.[/QUOTE]I rarely eat in Globe if I go for one room only. If I want to stay longer, it's nice to have the option to eat. I try to avoid eating from the buffet Friday or Saturday, in general I don't like eating food that was in heater tray for a long time, I will rather order something.
Best cook they had, Thilo, is unfortunately no longer working there. Very good filet mignon, or even burger.
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[QUOTE=AdamCki;2879130]Belbo for what I know in the clubs where they do the savings packets it's only the club who gets less (over mostly the entrance fee), the girl gets her standard rate which is unaffected by the packet cost.[/QUOTE]I am not sure that only the club takes less and the girls' earnings are not impacted, but of course, only the managers know the numbers.
If I consider the Freubad Packages, 3 X30 is 379 CHF, while a girl takes normally 130 CHF per 30 minutes; I seriously doubt that the club loses 11 CHF for each customer who decides for that package.
[QUOTE=AdamCki;2879130]Regarding the pseudo new mood, I want also the superstars and divas and the most booked to approach everyone now, not just the newcomers, good or bad they could be. If dats not the case or happenin, nothing has changed in the end I am sorry.[/QUOTE]In my visits I did not experience this kind of "charm offensive"; very few girls approached me and I could not appreciate any difference compared to the past. I saw some improvement on the line up and, unlike my visits earlier in the year, no girl was impolite or arrogant, that's all.