Seoul

Sorry Jackson, I thought something was wrong since you usually only take a day before posting.

Anyway, I got a field report from a friend on Bop Won Ri, the RLD next to YJG. They still have the schoolgirl fetish house, it's on the main road there. BWR is the easiest to find since you can see it on the main road. As your going to find YJG, you'll most likely find BWR because YJG is kinda hidden from the road and the YJG is kinda on a side road. BWR is on the main road to North Korea. When you come to a T in the road, where you make a 90 degree left or right, you went to far.

I don't know if this is typical BWR service, BWR is a little smaller than YJG. Lately, I'm told the girls don't hassle you as much and grab you. I hated that because your clothes get messed up. I ruined a nice polo shirt that way. I think the cops are clamping down on that kind of behavior. The only good part about it was getting a good FEEL for each girl before you choose. I don't really care for it, cause I have a specific look in a girl I look for. BWR has the typical big neon signs everywhere about half of the houses were closed. But that's with YJG too. In BWR there seems to be more single girls, like 1 or 2 girls per house instead of like a whole gang of them in each one together. Maybe better since it's more personal. In BWR the service was average, maybe it was just the girl but it was just straight sex, with not much massaging, licking, and no rim job. I'm guessing it was the girl though. The quality in terms of looks is very good overall. Not many fat girls, most were in the 7-10 range. Just an ok experience. Of course the same no condom policy.

All these places take Credit Card of course, I wonder how they stop people from denying the charges afterwards, like saying that the card was stolen. I'm guessing if you do it, there might be a mafia guy after you or something.

I think the best approach when haggling with the girls is to just straight out ask them, if they will give you good service. If you make them promise to give you good service, they seem to do a better job to keep that promise. I know this sounds retarded but maybe something about promises. Just don't pick a girl and go for it.

I'm working on the driving directions to YJG, kinda hard because of the crappy map system in Korea, not a detailed as the Thomas Guide and hard to use because of the messed up address system.

Mool

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Moolman
[i]Just because someone is a hooker, doesn't mean they can't choose who to sleep with. Being a hooker doesn't mean you have to do whoevers got cash. I know some may go to brothels where the girls are forced there and must sleep with every guy that comes in the door. But let's not support those places.

At least give hookers some respect, maybe not much since they sell their bodies but they are people. Hell, we suck more for buying. :)

Mool [/i][/QUOTE]

Couldn't agree more. Let's not discriminate people based on job status or gender. I've heard many stories and seen stuff in these RLDs where the girls are treated like shit. It really gets me angry to see how disrespectful some guys are towards these women.

Secondly, I'm a korean who didn't know jack about the sex industry in korea till I've read the WSG(lived almost all my life away from korea). This should be a forum for all, not just for non-koreans. If you happen to visit the Malaysian section, almost all members are locals who at times(but seldom) post in their native language. Do I have the right to tell them not to do that? Anyway, I've been to KL and some of the girls, knowing that I'm a foreigner have tried to rip money off by being way way unreasonable. Point is, if you are a foreigner you'll never have it easy as the locals wherever you are.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by seoulman
[i]fact is we are looked down on! man a choosy *****!
I cant believe it what is this world coming to!

[/i][/QUOTE]

Welcome to the real world!!!!So what if you have been looked down. I've encountered racism all my life. I'm not a racist but honestly, Caucasians have it easier than us asian or blacks or hispanics. Please don't tell me you guys have it hard... Do you know what it feels like being an asian living in Schenectady? Or be referred to as "chino" by unruly teenage punks on the streets.? Man I can tell you stories after stories....
As chris rock once said "If you are white, the sky is the limit, if you are black, they limit the sky!!!"

The world ain't coming into anything. Don't expect everything to be given to you on a silver plate.

Greetings gentlemen :)

Sorry for my late reply.

Since it is hard for non-Koreans to get service from working girls, I will try my best and provide as much info as possible.

1. If you are teaching English, hit on a student. I used to work at a Language Institute and I have seen my non-Korean co-workers get laid with their students. Some students are very open-minded and are willing to explore.

2. Itaewon: Don't go to the massage parlors or the RLD. They not only rip you off, but also have bad quality service! Visit the clubs there. The Korean girls that go to the clubs are easy and sl*tty. So it should be an easy task.

3. If you are white, just tell the girls that you are Dutch!

Hiddink (the former Korean Soccer Coach) is a legend and god in this country. So if you say that you are Dutch, it is worth a shot. Just mumble anything and they will believe that you are speaking in Dutch. Just add a little British accent into it. :)

4. The odds will increase at a RLD if you bring a Korean friend with you. I took a Canadian friend of mine to 588 and it was successful. But he had to pay 90,000 won. I told her that he was Dutch.

5. Next to the Renaissance Hotel (in southern Seoul) are a lot of massage parlors. My non-Korean friends have told me that they have been successful with ease.

6. If you are a non-Korean and you plan on going to YJG "without" a Korean friend, then DON'T! There are many Korean troops there and they will give you this dirty look and call you names, I had to break up an argument between American and Korean troops and it was not a pretty sight.

Afterwards, I tried to get the American troop into one of the wh*re houses but they said no.

I told her, "My god, this dude is helping keep peace in Korea, he's away from his family and friends and you still won't do him?" "Cut us some slack, he is willing to pay you 100,000." The girl still said no.

I'm sorry but this is all the info that I can provide. If I know any more, I will post the.

Hey Mool, I like your idea of a trip to YJG. :)


I'm in the States on business. I shall return to Korea within two weeks.

Sincerely,

New World Order

Lord - decided to go to Shinyoungsan RDL Sunday AM at around 5:30am to see what nice girls might be left out after Saturday night. Never seen so many OLD ajama's in my life. After about 3 times around the B & C rows (A row offlimits to non-koreans) found a nice b+ for W60,000. Not to bad, BBBJ and a nice lap ride till done.

But nothing campared to Finkle - guess that will be my home away from home now.

WW

SeoulBlade:

Sorry man, I thought you were Korean trying to discourage guys from going there. I'm going to try to get my white friend some service at YJG, that's my goal this year..haha.. and I'll report back if it works. Maybe I'll try to say he's Dutch like others suggested and make him speak in an accent. :)

Anyway, I'm off on a surprise business trip and I will be in Seoul and Manila from 7/15/03 and 7/18/03. I may try some mongering depending on the schedule. Korea for sure but lately I've been having second thoughts about Manila because of some things that happened last time.

Drop me a line if anybody is in Seoul or Manila during that time.
gold123@email.com

I'll post my adventures in Seoul if I have any.

Good luck all.

Mool

Seoul Blade,

Do NOT have an HIV test done here, because if (God forbid) you are a foreigner and test +, the clinic is by law required to report it IMMEDIATELY. You will then be picked up by NIS for retesting, followed by a period of investigation into your sexual life in order to establish a list of other individuals you exposed. During this time you will be detained /"quarantined."

At the end of the process you will be deported.

The above info is from a MD friend of mine who runs the ICU at a major Seoul hospital.

Obviously the govt does not publicize this approach as it would defeat the purpose of their immediate containment doctrine.

As draconian as this approach is, it appears to work (at least to a certain degree). Taking Korea's official HIV stats, and even multiplying them by 5 in order to negate the govt. bullshit factor and error margins, Korea's incidence rate is liliputian.

(Isn't our beloved moderator in medicine? J, if ya read this feel free to add any thoughts)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SeoulSurvivor
[i]I am doing my best to share information. Based on these descriptions I present the following [b]Monger's Guide to FinKL[/b]:

[i]"Swastika"[/i]: [b]So-Yeon[/b] (appearance 9, service 9)

[i]"Short, ringletty hair"[/i]: [b]Byeol-i[/b] ("Star") (appearance 6.5, service 11)

[[/i][/QUOTE]Went to Finkel this morning (Monday) at 2am - figured it would quiet and easy - got Byeol-i - not as good a service as So-Yeon. Where So-Yeon is a GFE, Byeol-i was more mechanical. Great BBBJ and kept at it, but was strictly wanting me to "get to it" when the main event started.

I would rate looks at a 6 and service around a 7, But So-Yeon, looks 9 service 11.

WW

This is a short report!

Went to Seoul and stayed in Ritz Carlton. Called for massage service in my room and the receptionist asked if i wanted a guy or a girl (WTF??) Ofcourse I wanted a girl!

Then, she said it costs 33000 for 30 mins and I thought it meant a korean beauty will turn up but an old 60 or 60+ turned up. I didnt want to open the door after having checked her thru the door. Anyway, let her in and her massage was as bad as her age and looks. She was saying something like 'young girl' 'young girl' and pointed her finger to her phone and I let her talk to someone and she said something like 'a young girl's going to turn up' and after 10 mins a slightly younger woman turned up. Although, she looked good but I wasn't purely looking for a massage.

I let the old lady go and as soon as we shut the door, the girl asked me to take off my kimono and I lay there naked on the bed she covered just my ass with a cloth and started giving me a good massage. I was hoping to ask her for action but she told me that she was 35 (with her fingers) and asked me 'you american' ?? with a great smile!! LoL

Of course, I'm not American!

Anyway, she continued the massage but I was in no mood to ask if she did anything more and just let her go.

Btw, they provide a laptop with internet in each hotel room and the first thing that the laptop will show up on the screen is links to korean porno Pay sites.
Checked one such site but it was crap! just like a XXX movie and not really hardcore!

Will post more details later!

Happy hunting :)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by NY Yankees
[i]This should be a forum for all, not just for non-koreans. If you happen to visit the Malaysian section, almost all members are locals who at times(but seldom) post in their native language. Do I have the right to tell them not to do that? . [/i][/QUOTE]Reminds me of when I first arrived in Korea, and everybody told me that Korean women were all virgins until married (I beleived them for a while).

As far as language is concerned, my vote would be: English should be the language of choice. If you want to post in Malaysian, wouldn't a Malaysian site be better? What is the point?

NY YANKEES: Let's get off the victimization trip. Everybody knows that Asians in the US have twice the number of college grads per capita; have a higher family income than all other ethnicities per capita; have higher % of managers and professiuonals per capita; have higher % of high school grads per capita. My sources? New York Times, 10/14/02, Journal of Statistics, Summer 2002. By the way, life is not supposed to be easy.

Assetman: Why is that procedure concerning tracking down AIDS positive partners so bad? We are not talking about the common cold, but a world-wide epidemic. Also, considering that WHO has siad China is about to ahve an AIDS disaster of huge proportions I think only re-enforces Korea's policy (per your last post).

Last I will post about any of the above.

New World Order,

MP around the Renaissance Hotel, are you talking Barber Shops or Turkish Bath? I stay at the Renaissance Hotel on my trip to Seoul, I have not seen to much action around Renaissance.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jimhart69
[i]New World Order,

MP around the Renaissance Hotel, are you talking Barber Shops or Turkish Bath? I stay at the Renaissance Hotel on my trip to Seoul, I have not seen to much action around Renaissance. [/i][/QUOTE]Greetings jimhart69 :)

I was referring to turkish baths.

There are several places.

Direction to the places.

1. Stand in front of the main entrance (that faces the main road; Taehang-Ro). If you look to your right, you will see a small alley,....go there. Then. take a right and walk up that alley for about 40 meters (I'm not sure how much it is in feet.)

2. While walking up the hill, look to your left and you will see another small alley,.....go there. On both sides of the alley, are many motels (which are around 5--10 stories high). These motels will have signs reading "¾È¸¶" which means massage.

I will ask my name to tell me the name of the place where he goes to.

It is at the very end (and the right side) of the alley. Go in and you will see a shoe shine guy (he shines your shoes for free) and you will see two mamasans. One has long and curly hair. She is tall and thin. Just tell her that your Korean friend introduced you to her. Tell her that two of your co-workers who are Japanese and Italian also recommended the place.

The cost is 180,000 won (cash) and 190,000 won (credit card) for both Koreans and non-Koreans.

You will be escorted to a room by one of the mamasans while she grabs your hand (I have no f*ckin idea why they would grab our hands LOL ). You take your clothes off and put on a gown (I do not know what they call it in English). A blind lady walks in and gives you a massage for about 20 minutes.

Then you will be escorted to the shower room and the mamasan grabs your hand again. She should be grabbing something else. LOL :)

Your date walks in and gives you a shower, and then f*cks your brains out.

Personally, I think it is not worth 180,000 won. I would rather go to Pinkle and spend half the amount.

As for you non-Koreans, there are many open-minded Korean girls who would love to date non-Koreans!!! Go to places like HongDae and Itaewon. All the sl*tty girls go to Itaewon. If you are looking for a girlfriend, go to Hongdae. If you want a sex partner, then go to Itaewon.

I hope this info helps you all.

Sincerely,

New World Order

P.S. Somebody posted a report about Seo Yeon from Pinkle. That girl does scream and yell~~~ :)

Sorry for the late post but I have been busy. I went to the Finkle 11 Jul on my way back from Asan Medical Center since it was on the way. Now I had been there a week before and asked for So-Hyun but she was gone. I was kinda hoping she would be gone again so I could spend my money elsewhere, but to my suprise she was there and available. Now I must say IMHO So-Hyun has the best body and is the best looking one there. I made some small talk with her and then asked to see the tatoo to make sure it was her. She then gave me a decent massage and then led me to the upstairs shower and small room. All I can say is that she has to be the best one there at what she does. If you have never experienced her you are truly missing out. When I go there from now on if she's not there I will leave. She does things that are amazing. Though I did find it odd the ajuma asked for more money than the $100.00 US I gave her. I don't know if it's because they have more customers or what. Has this happened to anyone else?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TheContinental
[i]
As far as language is concerned, my vote would be: English should be the language of choice. If you want to post in Malaysian, wouldn't a Malaysian site be better? What is the point?

NY YANKEES: Let's get off the victimization trip. Everybody knows that Asians in the US have twice the number of college grads per capita; have a higher family income than all other ethnicities per capita; have higher % of managers and professiuonals per capita; have higher % of high school grads per capita. My sources? New York Times, 10/14/02, Journal of Statistics, Summer 2002. By the way, life is not supposed to be easy.
[/i][/QUOTE]


I see your point in all and I'm not disputing any of it. Infact, I do agree with almost everything that you have mentioned. However, my point is, if I told them to translate what they meant in english, they will kindly do so, but if I told them straight out not to post in their native language, they'll tell me to go **** myself... Point is, if you are nice and polite and not demanding like it is expected, everything will be pretty much vice versa.

I know we asians are the "token overachievers" but sometimes having status and money isn't everything. I never did say life was easy anyway. Like what Mastercard says "There are things money can't buy" One main reason asian families have all these higher capitas? 'Cause they are sick of being victimised and want to climb up the ladder. But do all these necessarily bring you equality? I hope it does and do wish that it will be so, but we all live in the real world...

As there is a saying some people will see a glass of water and see that it is half empty and others half full, so let's put all our differences aside and get back to what is important. Chicks...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nico
[i]

Now I had been there a week before and asked for So-Hyun but she was gone.

Though I did find it odd the ajuma asked for more money than the $100.00 US I gave her. I don't know if it's because they have more customers or what. Has this happened to anyone else? [/i][/QUOTE]Greetings nico :)

So Hyun was gone that day because the working girls get a day off (only once a month!!!) Besides, she is probably on her period. LOL :)

That stupid mamasan is trying to rip us guys again. Tell her that $1 = 1150 won. Therefore, you are giving her 115000 won instead of 90,000 won.

Next time, just give her 80 dollars.

Or go to any Korean bank and exchange your dollars into Korean won. All you need is an ID and there is no fee.

I am currently on a business trip to Minneapolis. I went to Mall of America. I heard that this is the 2nd largest mall in the world!!!