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re Kim,
Someone else said she had a bad attitude ("Once she got her money,she didn't care") guess they got her on a bad day or maybe she just really prefers sucking.

Re Layce,
I'd have given up long ago. even if she does have a good review from Peter.

Re Cherry,
4 sounds a bit harsh on the body front - but I guess its in the eye of the beholder. At the moment I'd probably look for a hotter one too - like that Amanda... mmmm.... pity she is outcalls only.

I had a go with her a few weeks ago.

Not the prettiest girls in the world and quite flat chested, but very petite and a really cute arse.

Excellent BBBJ, seamed really eager to please and had no problem with me coming twice in the hour.

I recommend her and would retrurn, but each to their own I suppose.

RichardF

Your dual predicaments of cashflow problems and inability to contact girls got me thinking. It's a problem that I too have faced in the past when trying to find adequate release receptacles in the back pages of the truth. Girls often work alone but I have noticed some of the high end one have a receptionist who answers the phone but of course with the margin that they're making they can obviously afford to employ someone. Clearly there is a gap in the market for some some kind of practical solution.

Maybe you could offer some sort of phone based low cost concierge service to help make bookings and arrange punters to visit them. Certainly your inability to contact Laycee is simply a function of her shit time management and it's costing her money since she is missing out on customers.

Here's the killer: while it may be expensive for a girl to solely employ you in the role if you had multiple girls using the service then the cost wouldn't be as much per girl - economies of scale - which is an excellent marketing idea considering the low margins that some of the Asian girls get for their services.

As a sweetener if a girl is busy or booked out then surplus punters could be directed to where there is spare capacity - just like Walmart does with their inventory control. Since you'll be setting their schedules then you will know who is going spare thus offering the potential for extra business.

Also low/no capital requirements to set up. There is no parlor to lease or house to pay rent on. All you would be doing is answering one of several phones and the texting back to the girls the time of the next job.

Revenues should be ok and you should be able to reach breakeven point and cover your fixed costs quite easily because of the low capital investment. If you had say six girls on the books and charged them $3 a booking and had an average of 4 bookings an hour then your making minimum wage at $12 but you'd be doing fuck all apart from sitting on the couch answering the phone and texting so what do you really expect.

Downsides: hours could be hell. Some of the girls could be working quite late or on public holidays and unless you have some to take over then you may find yourself working 7 day weeks.

Anyway just a thought.

Thanks for the advice Pointy Stick.

Re: Layce. Guess what? I just received a reply to my text of 4 days ago, this evening, asking to call her back for enquiries.

[QUOTE=Richard F]Before my true mongering days started I uesd t go up to the Classic Porn Cinema in Queen Street. this place has closed now and it has become the Comedy club. In the 1980s DVDs had not really arrived and VHS was the thing. People had not really started to watch porn at home in those days so they used to frequent The Classic.

The Classic patrons were a mixed bunch, taxi drivers killng time on quiet days, married businessmen coming in for a sneaky peak at the movies, students etc.

The cinema was open from about 12 midday to about 10pm. The movies were shown in a continuous loop so patrons could stay all day for a flat fee. There were some good porn movies, I remember one featuring the late great John 13" Holmes. It was an ok movie but he seemed to have a huge bend in his cock.

Sometimes I used to stay in the classic all day, getting ideas from the porno actors which I could use later when I started frequenting massage parlours.

Porno movies are usually not known for their good acting or clever dialogue, but there was one movie which had a good piece of comedy in it.

Sadly, with the advent of DVDs and home entertainment, with people watching porn at home, the classic closed and was reopened as the comedy club.[/QUOTE]I’Ve been meaning to reply to some of the earlier postings in general.

I had been to the Adult theatre in Queen St but only once and not as a customer. It was such a long time ago and if memory serves, I think I was there for a short time because I was visiting someone I knew who worked there or was doing some sort of job there. I never retuned as I did not like the smell of the place. After all I had a VCR and use to get rent my videos from an adult shop next to the old Hewitt & Bale (fishing & hunting) store at Customs St. They had some special going where you could rent the next video for free if you reviewed it for their database. Unfortunately that did not last long and the place closed.

My mates and I use to frequent the Fort St strip clubs. Sometimes even 5 or 6 times a week at one point when there was this really good dancer called Roxanne at the Sunset Strip. I think this was around the mid-90s. Then she moved on to Nelson. We actually considered flying down there just to see her dance. From memory her looks was about average (a lot of other strippers looked better) but she really knew how to move and had a really toned body. I think she must have had some form of classical training, which she adapted for the pole. I had this tight arsed friend who never gave any of his money away to strippers as they came around, would empty his wallet for her.

Then Showgirls opened. In the beginning, Showgirls was really good, when the lap dances was quite affordable. If you were really nice, you could touch them. I had one girl, dry hump me. The next day I wore the same pants to work only to discover her caked in pussy juiced on my crotch. These days, in only a few minutes, you can spend nearly half of what full service cost and not even get to first base. I just see it pointless and a waste of money, to subject myself to being teased and not be able to sample any. I guess it would suit persons in a relationship and don’t want to "cheat" on their partners/spouses. Music is often too loud (I often bring earplugs).

Some of you might remember this really tall blond with augmented breast at Showgirls (circ. 1999 plus or minus a few years), called Elizabeth. Elizabeth was different as she had that classic nice girl European/Victorian look about her. She was so tall she seemed a bit out of place, but don’t get me wrong, she was hot. I had the good fortune of bumping into her at Femme Fatale a couple of years back (or maybe 3 years). Now I’ve had ex-strippers before, but not seen them dance when they were strippers. It’s even better if you can get them to dance for you before getting to 3rd base. But this is the first time I’ve had the opportunity to get to 3rd base with a stripper who I’ve seen dance before, for a fraction of the price of 1 hours worth of lap dance. She was friendly and I told her I remembered seeing her dance at showgirls. I asked her what her real name was and she said Elizabeth was actually her real name. She had the amazing ability of milking me with her pussy muscles as I shot my load. Unfortunately, it was a short stint for her and was no longer available when I went back for seconds. One morning, I turned on the Good Morning show and saw this hot chick selling the Velform skin cream, and I said to myself. "Yeah, I’d fuck her". Then I took another long hard look. It took about a minute before I recognised who she was and said to myself, "Hey! I did fuck her". I don’t think there would be many more occasions in my life where I could say that after seeing someone on TV or "remote celebrity".

Soon, we stopped frequenting strip joints. In our group of regulars, one got married, one went overseas to work and the other refused to put up with the smoke in those places. Smoking has now been outlawed in public pubs (stripclubs included) but we never went back. The last time I stepped into one was a good 2 years ago, and that was only a once of for a friends birthday party. To be honest, I could not tolerate the smoke and I’m sure an eye infection resulted from excessive smoke at poorly ventilated Mermaids. Although smoking has now been prohibited in public places including clubs, I never returned back to the regular visits.

It's normal (for any line of work) where the service providers hate their job which ultimately impacts the service clients receive. In this line one can argue the proportion is substantially higher. In that case I don't normally return. This site is good because everyone can review and warn others of poor service and vice versa. I have been reasonably lucky in the past. I have only come across maybe 1% where the service as bad as recently indicated. I try not to dwell on it as it adds little to an already bad experience, all we can do is vent it here.

The good ones I return for more, and a good majority provide reasonable service but perhaps nothing really special for me to return.

From time to time I may pepper my reports with notable ho's from the past (who are no longer working). I think I shall title them Ghost of Christmas Past.

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[QUOTE=Pointy Stick]RichardF

Your dual predicaments of cashflow problems and inability to contact girls got me thinking. It's a problem that I too have faced in the past when trying to find adequate release receptacles in the back pages of the truth. Girls often work alone but I have noticed some of the high end one have a receptionist who answers the phone but of course with the margin that they're making they can obviously afford to employ someone. Clearly there is a gap in the market for some some kind of practical solution.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised that some places get away with the margins they are charging. Today the average cash rate (Femme, PC, etc) is $180. The girls get $100 and the establishment $80. If memory serves back in the early 90s the rate was $120 and the girls got $80 and the establishment $40. If you chart inflation, the girls are now getting a 25% increase but I'm sure inflation is more than that in that time frame. On top of that, I also hear that IRD are going to be keeping tabs on their income pretty soon now that their activities has been de-criminalized. I don't think the Prostitution Reform Act has done them any good.

From speaking with the girls, they also get charged for advertising, shift fee, laundry fee, fines, etc...I thought my $80 covered that.

I've always thought that the ultimate business model were to open up a Love Hotels (similar to ones I've heard off in Japan) where you charge for rooms by the hour. The relationship would then be of innkeeper and guest as opposed to brothel and prostitute. There could be a bar where everyone can come and go as they please. No door fee. Who knows, maybe a bouncer at the front to filter out fat bitches and girls with shit attitude. Sort of the REVERSE of a bouncer at popular nightclubs that are known to let all girls in but stop improperly dressed short fat balding guys. (PS. im not bald). If picked up a SW or even a **** at the pub and needed a place, you could use a "Love Hotel".

I think the business model is sound. Regular hotels can only turn a room over on average at once per day at say $200. You could charge $60 - $80 for a love hotel and turn that over 10 times a day or more.

thanks for your very interesting report, poopbunny.

i spent many hours at "showgirls" around 1999/2000. got to know a few of the strippers, and had many private dances, although i always found showgirls expensive, and i would go to the afternoon session which usually started at 12 or 1pm, which was free, to avoid paying the $30 cover charge, which applied after 5. there's no way i would pay $30 to go to a strip club, especially when they charge for drinks as well, also i really don't want to be with a bunch of drunken, rowdy men leering and yelling at the strippers thanks. i usually had left long before about 5pm. strip clubs are very boring when the same women come out all the time, especially when you have had full service from an escort, just a waste of time. i no longer go, it's a waste of money. the women, at times all looked like carbon copies of eachother, with tattoos on their lower backs, navels, breasts and ankles, with the obligatory piercings. usually very young and bored looking as well, and boring to talk to.

i had two favourites at showgirls who i used to go with: "celo" a black african (kenyan) stripper and terri, a tall, well built busty part maori girl from dargaville. both were attractive in different ways.

i found i got turned off showgirls, because i found it to be a place where just about everyone, including the dancers were getting exploited in some way. the only ones doing really well were the management.

the strippers were exploited, the only real money they got was from the tips ($) thrown on stage by punters, or the real money which was from private dances, and that's why some became very pushy.

i found a lot of the women, were usually youn naive women from small towns out of auckland, places like dargaville, morrinsville, even new plymouth (bigger). they came to auckland with no real qualifications, and saw the ads in the job section of the nz herald, promising: "work at showgirls, earn up to $3000 a week! ". they got sucked in by the ads and ended up working at showgirls. most would probably earn less than the average wage. terri, who i had private dances half a dozen times, was having to work from 1pm until 3am once, to earn a good amount. she showed me the callouses on her hands from sliding up and down the poles. i met another woman, who stripped at showgirls, but said the only way she really made money, was by going upstairs and working at the penthouse, which is owned by the same people.

a high proportion of the strippers also seemed to have strong lesbian tendencies. i remember one stripper, who was outrageous. her name was georgina, and she was actually, buxom, with a good face and good body, but she hated men.

during her dances, which were very uninhibited, she would place her high heeled boot on a customer's head. at times she would get involved in verbal altercations with the customers.

i remember once, when showgirls had their lesbian act about 4 pm which they do everyday, when a spa bath appears from below the stage with two naked women in it, she produced a lighterfrom somewhere and set fire to the other girl's pubic hair.

i had a private dance with her once (i was drunk and brave), and she really wasn't that bad when you got talking to her, not really aggressive at all. she said she hated men and was looking for " a nice girl to settle down with. "

although i haven't had a dance with anyone who has been on tv, i did have a dance with someone who had been on the cover of truth, and had featured in ads in brass magazine and in othe ads.

her name was shelley, and she was a platinum blonde, with enhanced breasts, and a sculpted figure from working out.

we went for a 15 minute private dance, but i found her boring and shallow. she seemed fairly right wing and moaned on about asians ruining the country etc. she turned me off after a while, despite her figure, she kept shoving her bum in my face and playing with her clit ring.

i was really glad when the dance was over. she was totally unsexy.

i have also been to mermaids, but don't really like it. i get bored at strip clubs, the drinks were expensive, and the talent not always that great.

i remember talking to the manager of mermaids, and thought he looked more like a 4th form science teacher, than the manager of a strip club and brothel (sirens was upstairs, i went a few times, mainly thai women).

i haven't been to the white house, but i have really got sick of strip clubs, i would rather spend the money on a good sw, rather than go to a strip club, where you get nothing anyway.

i did go with a sw who used to be stripper once. her name was summer, and i was a regular for a while. she stripped at the pink pussycat in k rd.

finally, i have just read today in the herald, famous flora's is about to close, after many years of being one of auckland's parlours.

ron king, the guy who owns showgirls and a few other parlours was quoted in the article as saying famous flora's could not compete with the growth of private places eg, babes of remuera, and doves etc, where women set themselves up in a private house. i wonder if any of the other parlours will go the same way?

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was playing around with a few ways one could do the list

it isn't exactly a ranking anymore, but those with more & better reviews tend to be up the top and those with terrible reviews are at the bottom. With links to help determine who it actually is.

I don't see much written about this place. I have visited on several occasions and have found it to be a very different more laid back atmosphere to say FF.

Interested in what others have to say

Thanks Richard 1

For your hard work in putting together the your very comprehensive and helpful list.

This type of list is a great help to others on this site, and saves a huge amount of trouble and effort in finding good SWs.

I probably would not have make as many mistakes as I have finding good SW's if a list like this had existed before.

Rather than add another report, I will make a few more comments in this report.

Further to the news in the NZ Herald this morning (Saturday) of Famous Flora's finally closing after many years as one of Auckland's oldest parlours and the reasons given by Ron King (also owner of Showgirls/Penthouse), in which he said trade has moved to private houses since legalisation and Parlours can't compete, I guess they have higher overheads, I still feel there are good deals to be had at parlours.

With many private SW's now charging upward of $200, and as much as $300 per hour, a Parlour still represents good value for money.

Looking at the prices:

The pelican 1hr.$180 (cash)

femme fatale 1hr $180 (cash)

574 - $170 (cash)

candy club - $150 (cash)

Most of the other parlours are about the same (cash)

[url]www.genevas.co.nz[/url] offers a two girl special - tuesdays - $240 cash, doesn't seem like bad value, although it's in East Auckland, a bit far for me. looks like its in an industrial area, probably a bit grotty, but seems good value for money. the women are young, probably average age 20/21., some look ok though. May be worth a visit. Female owned and run.

i concur with richard f and poopbunny regarding the merits (or lack there-of) of visiting strip clubs/pole dancing venues. when in nz last november i paid my first, and last, visit to one of these places. the girls were all very beautiful and a pleasure to chat to, and it was a nice venue. but by the time i'd paid for a few drinks, shoved numerous $5 notes in their g-strings, and paid for a rather unsatisfying private dance, i could have spent quality time with one of christchurch's finer w/l's for the same money. at least now i've satisfied my curiosity and had the experience of visiting one of these places, but for the little you get for the money you go through in such a short time i can't see any reasonfor going back.

cheers,

studley

whilst trying to get a time with tyler , babes of remuera(meadowbank), ifound her to be constantly booked up , maybe poopbunny in her backdoor again!

so i tried an asian knock shop ironicly located about 400m from tyler on the same grand drive remuera (meadowbank)

my selection was cherry or angel, currently advertised nzg. i rejected cherry on looks alone, thou iam confused because iam sure this is a different girl than advertised as she had very short hair.

angel was a typical young asian good looking , b cups,mid length straight hair.
$100 half hour, because until they prove themselves,i wont go longer.

standard cbj , skipped daty on the basis of smell. average mish then finish in doggy.
shower togther for finish , then asks if i will return?, but after such an average effort, i made some lame excuse about being far away.

her looks and body a 6/10, and effort 5/10.

to expensive for $120 as i have had some fantastic value from $60 providers.her web review reads like shes somekind of sex machine , but i found her very so so,maybe just a bad day?

the house is a dedicated residential knock shop, probably rotating students etc from hong kong , china

richard 1 , great work on the lists, i wish i knew about them before, would have saved my self $$$$.

richard f , thought you would enjoy roxy, dude win lotto so we can read more of your fantasic reports

Just a Quick one.

Leena NZ HERALD, G/ field NS.

Private house just of Wairau rd, massage only.

Leena is a 35+ not very good looking Asian with large tits, by asian standards, but boy she does a good massage, just for those days when you don't feel like you have to raise a sweat banging some Ho.

She has stong hands and makes sure you are sexually aroused through most of the massage, unlike most who give you an average massage then grab your cock with out any lead up.

She gives great Prostate release with handjob, cumulating to a headbanging BIG O. She is currently on holiday in China, but I strongly recommend if this your thing then get there!

$40 1 hr + release $10 best value in town.

Richard F - previous notes was interesting reading. Thanks.

Thanks to Richard 1 for that list. Lets keep it alive. Here is one to add to your list.

You will find Tannah's contact details and full pictures revealing her face in the Elite section of NZG. I can verify that the picture is of her and in fact, looking at it now those pictures were taken in her apartment. I recognise some of the furniture.

Tannah is also previously known as Celeste from Femme Fatale. See my previous report. I actually did not recognise her, if I did I would not have made a booking. I was surprised she recognised me, I only saw her once, what seemed like a long time ago.

Her prices have recently changed to $300 from $200 an hour. IMO too much for the given service. No GFE, no kissing/french and no BBBJ.

I wanted to run but the nice guy I man, I decided to carry on with the booking. She told me to put the money on the kitchen top where if the service was unsatisfactory, you have the option of taking it back. So there you go, money back guarantee!

First had that obligatory shower, the weather has been extraordinary hot these days. So did she. And a braced myself for a shit service. Surprisingly, it turned out better than the last encounter. CBJ was surprisingly good. Good pressure and some teeth (which I like).

Missionary was ok. Pretty loose IMO. Her on top did not help either. I thought about getting her to finish me with BJ but decided to try doggie. After some pounding she had tighten up just a little and managed to finish inside her.

On a tightness scale of 1 - 10 (with 10 being very tight), I would have given her 1 on my previous encounter and 2 for this visit. She really needs to start on those Kegel excercises. She is pretty busy, and with a face and body like that why shouldn't she be. Service is another matter. A little friendlier this time.

Here is my gauge for some of you out there. Way hotter than Roxy in the looks department but service less satisfying. (Roxy wasn't that great). I'll stick with Tyler for now. Equally hot, better service and cheaper.

RTF: probably not.

I used to go to the white house sometimes - it is a bit better than showgirls because their dances were much better and more professional, they they were less pushy about tips and there was better lighting. The showgirls girls would often be better looking but they were generally just hot jaded girls going through the motions.

Places like white house should be done in a group - possibly with guys and girls with no intention of going for a private dance and not much intention of giving tips any greater than one dollar.