Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2477881]The word I use is AFFECTION. It's sometimes said men are pigs and some are. But I find a lot are just like me (and perhaps u) where just a bit of affection goes a long ways. I want to feel like someone cares for me and really likes me (even if it's a bit of a put on). A hug and kiss. I text that she's been missing you. These are little things but they matter to a lot of guys.

Layla and I chat a little most every night. Missing you. Netflix. Useless shit. It just feels nice having a girlfriend. The way I put it is the $$ covers the age and looks gap but other than that SA should feel like having a girlfriend, without the drama, cuz u both know its not leading to an LTR.

Oh I should be clear that Layla is (so far) the closest Ive been to a traditional LT sugar relationship. Almost all my girls have a been a night or two, with the promise of more, which Covid killed dead. And one girl I got pretty regular with but it still felt mostly like sex not affection. Dont get me wrong - it was awesome - and was my longest SB so far. Hoping Layla sets a new record.[/QUOTE]Got to say, SA is great for finding gems like you have with Layla. I use it in the states as well as abroad. I still have girls I chat with in Mexico and Columbia that I found on SA or CC. One is a student in GDL, 21 yrs old and absolutely gorgeous. Found her on SA, met in GDL last year for a few nights. We still chat on whatsapp and talk about what's going on. I'm planning another trip back to Mexico in November. This time in Puebla. She wants to come spend a few days with me there. No mention of money or anything, just wanting to spend time together. She is such a sweet loving thing. A lot of guys on ISG have been down on SA, but I have found it to be a great tool when I am planning another trip. I don't even think about strip clubs, ect. Anymore.

[QUOTE=Bdb013;2477933]Got to say, SA is great for finding gems like you have with Layla. I use it in the states as well as abroad. I still have girls I chat with in Mexico and Columbia that I found on SA or CC. One is a student in GDL, 21 yrs old and absolutely gorgeous. Found her on SA, met in GDL last year for a few nights. We still chat on whatsapp and talk about what's going on. I'm planning another trip back to Mexico in November. This time in Puebla. She wants to come spend a few days with me there. No mention of money or anything, just wanting to spend time together. She is such a sweet loving thing. A lot of guys on ISG have been down on SA, but I have found it to be a great tool when I am planning another trip. I don't even think about strip clubs, ect. Anymore.[/QUOTE]SA works like a charm in MTY. I am just can not believe it. Yes, it works in the states, but much more time and b. S.

[QUOTE=Bdb013;2477933]Got to say, SA is great for finding gems like you have with Layla. I use it in the states as well as abroad. I still have girls I chat with in Mexico and Columbia that I found on SA or CC. One is a student in GDL, 21 yrs old and absolutely gorgeous. Found her on SA, met in GDL last year for a few nights. We still chat on whatsapp and talk about what's going on. I'm planning another trip back to Mexico in November. This time in Puebla. She wants to come spend a few days with me there. No mention of money or anything, just wanting to spend time together. She is such a sweet loving thing. A lot of guys on ISG have been down on SA, but I have found it to be a great tool when I am planning another trip. I don't even think about strip clubs, ect. Anymore.[/QUOTE]I have seen some negative comments in here. But I think it just stems from a mismatch in their needs or what they are bringing to the table. For example if they only need sex and not affection or out-of-room chemistry then SA just seems like too much work and I would agree. To be succcessful on SA you have to bring this to the table:

1. A lot of time.

2. A lot of patience.

3. Solid text game.

4. Not treating girls like pros and objects.

5. Solid in-person game.

6. Non-objectionable looks (maybe).

If you can bring this to the party, the party is ON!

Steve, you are spot on. It is an investment of time and money. Its not cheap nor quick. I can go thru many girls to find a few I really like and get excited about meeting. But when everything lines up. The Party is On.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2477950]I have seen some negative comments in here. But I think it just stems from a mismatch in their needs or what they are bringing to the table. For example if they only need sex and not affection or out-of-room chemistry then SA just seems like too much work and I would agree. To be succcessful on SA you have to bring this to the table:

1. A lot of time.

2. A lot of patience.

3. Solid text game.

4. Not treating girls like pros and objects.

5. Solid in-person game.

6. Non-objectionable looks (maybe).

If you can bring this to the party, the party is ON![/QUOTE]

This will be long and boring, and if you don't believe any or some of it, then I won't blame you, because I can barely believe it myself, even though it happened to me just now.

So, yesterday, after my previous post in this thread, I decide to go look for the homely girl, and I found her at the same place where I met her the first time. We again had a good chat, and it just felt cozy to be with her. How bizarre, I thought. So anyway, I got her WeChat.

Last night, around 10 pm, I texted her, and then we texted back and forth. Then suddenly, I shit you not, she says it's too bad we were not in a hotel room. Holy fucking cow! Is she a pro? She can't be, I thought, because she has one of those minimum wage jobs. But maybe she hooks on the side and because I'm a foreigner maybe she thinks I'm a viable client, and that's probably why she was flirty the two times we interacted. After all, she has a superb bod from what I can tell, so maybe she takes advantage of it for extra income.

Anyway, we keep texting about hooking up and all that, but eventually, I had to go to bed. So I said goodnight. I shower and then hit the sack, but before I turn off my phone, I check my messages one last time, and lo and behold, my ATF pro suddenly sent me a text. She had disappeared for several months, but now she suddenly reappeared. I don't know why she disappeared, but who cares. So, we make plans for a meetup at some point. And, I go to sleep very, very happy. Homely is potentially on the hook, and my ATF pro is back in the picture.

This morning, I'm at work, and I get a text from the receptionist that I tried to make into an SB. I hadn't heard from her in 6 weeks! A quick recap about her. She was someone that I flirted with, and then was finally able to get an invite to her home, but I just banged her like she was a pro and gave her money and left. The next day, she went on a rampage about how I'm a womanizer and all that, but long story short, I saw her one more time, and then she kept dodging me afterwards and finally I got the hint and stopped pursuing her.

Anyway, today, the receptionist texts me out of the blue, "Want to come over?" I was shocked. I replied, "Don't you have to work?" And she replied, "I lost my job. " Ahhhhh, now I get it. When she asked me to come over, she was really asking me to bring my money over. So, I said I will come now. I arrive, I shower, I then do DATY and then we bareback, and she cums, and she asks why I don't cum, but I wanted to bang her some more, but eventually, she said she was sore. So, after some cuddling, I said I have to go to work. I could tell she was annoyed that I continued to treat her like a pro. But what can I do? Anyway, I gave her the usual amount, plus extra. I told her I was giving her extra to tie her over until she finds another job.

I then return to the office, and thinking to myself that I had a nut that needed busting. So, I was thinking whether I should go to a HJ MP, BJ MP, or FS MP.

Suddenly, I shit you not, I get a message from a pro that I have not seen in two years. She must be around 21-22 years old now. Phenomenal body. Everything is so firm. She was also a fave of mine, partly because she seems to genuinely like being with me. But she moved back to her hometown a couple of years ago. But now she was back in town, and so she asks me if I want to see her and that she was available today. So, I said, I'm coming now. And 25 minutes later, I arrive, and we had a great session and my problem of the unbusted nut was solved.

I guess it's true that when it rains, it pours.

The end.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2478155]This will be long and boring, and if you don't believe any or some of it, then I won't blame you, because I can barely believe it myself, even though it happened to me just now.

So, yesterday, after my previous post in this thread, I decide to go look for the homely girl, and I found her at the same place where I met her the first time. We again had a good chat, and it just felt cozy to be with her. How bizarre, I thought. So anyway, I got her WeChat.

Last night, around 10 pm, I texted her, and then we texted back and forth. Then suddenly, I shit you not, she says it's too bad we were not in a hotel room. Holy fucking cow! Is she a pro? She can't be, I thought, because she has one of those minimum wage jobs. But maybe she hooks on the side and because I'm a foreigner maybe she thinks I'm a viable client, and that's probably why she was flirty the two times we interacted. After all, she has a superb bod from what I can tell, so maybe she takes advantage of it for extra income.

Anyway, we keep texting about hooking up and all that, but eventually, I had to go to bed. So I said goodnight. I shower and then hit the sack, but before I turn off my phone, I check my messages one last time, and lo and behold, my ATF pro suddenly sent me a text. She had disappeared for several months, but now she suddenly reappeared. I don't know why she disappeared, but who cares. So, we make plans for a meetup at some point. And, I go to sleep very, very happy. Homely is potentially on the hook, and my ATF pro is back in the picture.[/QUOTE]Haha this was a good story.

In what country is this?

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2478155]This will be long and boring, and if you don't believe any or some of it, then I won't blame you, because I can barely believe it myself, even though it happened to me just now.

So, yesterday, after my previous post in this thread, I decide to go look for the homely girl, and I found her at the same place where I met her the first time. We again had a good chat, and it just felt cozy to be with her. How bizarre, I thought. So anyway, I got her WeChat.

Last night, around 10 pm, I texted her, and then we texted back and forth. Then suddenly, I shit you not, she says it's too bad we were not in a hotel room. Holy fucking cow! Is she a pro? She can't be, I thought, because she has one of those minimum wage jobs. But maybe she hooks on the side and because I'm a foreigner maybe she thinks I'm a viable client, and that's probably why she was flirty the two times we interacted. After all, she has a superb bod from what I can tell, so maybe she takes advantage of it for extra income.

Anyway, we keep texting about hooking up and all that, but eventually, I had to go to bed. So I said goodnight. I shower and then hit the sack, but before I turn off my phone, I check my messages one last time, and lo and behold, my ATF pro suddenly sent me a text. She had disappeared for several months, but now she suddenly reappeared. I don't know why she disappeared, but who cares. So, we make plans for a meetup at some point. And, I go to sleep very, very happy. Homely is potentially on the hook, and my ATF pro is back in the picture.

This morning, I'm at work, and I get a text from the receptionist that I tried to make into an SB. I hadn't heard from her in 6 weeks! A quick recap about her. She was someone that I flirted with, and then was finally able to get an invite to her home, but I just banged her like she was a pro and gave her money and left. The next day, she went on a rampage about how I'm a womanizer and all that, but long story short, I saw her one more time, and then she kept dodging me afterwards and finally I got the hint and stopped pursuing her.

Anyway, today, the receptionist texts me out of the blue, "Want to come over?" I was shocked. I replied, "Don't you have to work?" And she replied, "I lost my job. " Ahhhhh, now I get it. When she asked me to come over, she was really asking me to bring my money over. So, I said I will come now. I arrive, I shower, I then do DATY and then we bareback, and she cums, and she asks why I don't cum, but I wanted to bang her some more, but eventually, she said she was sore. So, after some cuddling, I said I have to go to work. I could tell she was annoyed that I continued to treat her like a pro. But what can I do? Anyway, I gave her the usual amount, plus extra. I told her I was giving her extra to tie her over until she finds another job.

I then return to the office, and thinking to myself that I had a nut that needed busting. So, I was thinking whether I should go to a HJ MP, BJ MP, or FS MP.

Suddenly, I shit you not, I get a message from a pro that I have not seen in two years. She must be around 21-22 years old now. Phenomenal body. Everything is so firm. She was also a fave of mine, partly because she seems to genuinely like being with me. But she moved back to her hometown a couple of years ago. But now she was back in town, and so she asks me if I want to see her and that she was available today. So, I said, I'm coming now. And 25 minutes later, I arrive, and we had a great session and my problem of the unbusted nut was solved.

I guess it's true that when it rains, it pours.

The end.[/QUOTE]Congrats MW. I believe every word is gospel. Why would you make that shit up. And yes when it rains it pours. It's spooky really. I will be in a drought and sudddenly 3 girls are texting me. No logical explanation. Just happens. Congrats!

[QUOTE=Alabastern;2478197]Haha this was a good story.

In what country is this?[/QUOTE]Guess MW is too busy fucking to answer. LOL. He's in China but not from there. Did a bunch of US SA before his time in China.

I texted her last night, and after chatting for a bit, we talk about meeting in a hotel again, but again she slightly diverts the discussion to taking a vacation together. So I said, sure, we can take a short vacation together. I was just bullshitting of course. Then, she asked if she could be my GF. LOL. We've only met twice, all we did was chat, and each time it was for about 10 minutes. I said sure. Then she asked if I could pay her rent. LOL. Okay, she's not new to this "arrangement" thing. I reply with a "surprise" emoji. Then she quickly says that her rent is not high, only $450 per month. Now that's an affordable arrangement, LOL. So then I texted, how about we meet in a hotel first, to establish chemistry. She said okay. Fingers crossed.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2478864]Guess MW is too busy fucking to answer. LOL. He's in China but not from there. Did a bunch of US SA before his time in China.[/QUOTE]Yep, I'm in Shanghai.

Steve was active in the Shanghai thread when he was here for a spell. In one of his posts, he brought up how SA was probably the best option in the United States. Coincidentally, I too have a passion for SA, so I moved our discussion about it to the Dating Agencies forum and out of the Shanghai forum, so that we could **all** talk about and share our SA experiences.

Steve is the originator and founder of this SA forum.

As for Shanghai, the MP scene pretty much is back to normal, but other venues are not back to normal. For example, incall and outcall action seem to be far from 100% normal for a variety of reasons, and so I am looking for arrangements now. I'm not using SA. Instead, I'm trying to find arrangements by hitting on "migrant workers. " They are girls that come to Shanghai from 2nd tier cities to find work. Minimum wage in Shanghai is double the minimum wage in their second tier cities. This is enough for them to leave home. They make about $1,000 per month in Shanghai. So, an arrangement that pays them $1,000 then gives them quadruple their home salary. A thousand bux does not cause much damage to my wallet. So, this can be a win-win for me and the SB. Seems like this would be hard, but I am finding that it is not that hard. These girls are desperate for money, and they are VERY flattered that a foreigner would be interested in them. The only awkward part is that most of them have never been in an arrangement before, so that makes this a bit challenging but also kind of interesting.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2478875]I texted her last night, and after chatting for a bit, we talk about meeting in a hotel again, but again she slightly diverts the discussion to taking a vacation together. So I said, sure, we can take a short vacation together. I was just bullshitting of course. Then, she asked if she could be my GF. LOL. We've only met twice, all we did was chat, and each time it was for about 10 minutes. I said sure. Then she asked if I could pay her rent. LOL. Okay, she's not new to this "arrangement" thing. I reply with a "surprise" emoji. Then she quickly says that her rent is not high, only $450 per month. Now that's an affordable arrangement, LOL. So then I texted, how about we meet in a hotel first, to establish chemistry. She said okay. Fingers crossed.[/QUOTE]An update.

Next morning, I look at my phone, and there's a text message from her. She took the day off, and asking again if I can pay her rent this month. So I said let's meet in a hotel. She says yes, but again insists on me paying her rent ($450). She sounded genuinely desperate, so I took the plunge and said okay, but I pick the hotel (it is $80 at the one near me) and she pays for it and also her roundtrip taxi fare ($30 is protocol here). Plus, I said this is a one-time deal. The per meet rate cannot be this high. She says okay. I tell her the hotel name, she books the room.

I then text her, don't wear makeup. I hate makeup. She says okay.

At 1 pm, she sends me a pic of her in the taxi, on the way to the hotel. I get on a rental bike and pedal over.

At 1:15 pm, she sends me a pic of her room number.

At 1:30 pm, I knock on her door.

Bros, I am not kidding or exaggerating when I say this, but when she opened the door, I was absolutely stunned. She is beautiful without her crappy and cheap and clownish makeup. If you're American, then you may remember the sitcom "Just Shoot Me. " I had a huge crush on the Maya Gallo character. Well, homely girl without makeup looks like a 16 year old version of Maya. Even her hair color and style, and dimples and smile, and especially her eyes, made her look like a teenage Maya.

I shower and we hit the bed. She asks why we are not going out. I then realize that she got dressed up for our date, LOL. (Later, I will discover that she thought we were going to spend the entire day together, and then stay overnight at the hotel. So, I guess asking for $450 wasn't being obnoxious, as she thought it would be a 20 hour date.).

We are cuddling, and then she unwraps my towel to check out my junk. She says I am huge and giggles. I ask her to take off her clothes, and she is so shy and giggly. But finally, they come off. Bros, I am not kidding, her body was phenomenal. Everything was firm, smooth, and soft. A young and nearly flawless body. You could bounce a quarter off of her stomach.

So, face and body, almost a 9 each.

DATY and then bareback sex. The look on her face was one of pleasure, disbelief, enjoyable pain, and ecstasy. She could barely breathe. And she is just clenching onto my shoulders as if she was drowning and trying desperately to hold on to save herself.

After an hour of sex, then we cuddled for an hour and chatted. She was asking me all kinds of questions about me and my life. She was so curious about me and so into me. She laughed at all of my jokes. To have this beautiful and young girl curled up next me, while both of us naked, made me feel like I was in college and in love again.

Afterwards, I told her I had to return to work. She was stunned that I was leaving. But for the rest of the day, we continued to text each other.

Bros, I am fucking smitten and totally infatuated. This probably means that I'm doomed, LOL.

A week and a half ago, I was down in the dumps. Then suddenly, she comes into my life. I am desperately hoping that this is the start of a fruitful, enjoyable, and satisfying arrangement.

The end.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2479154]An update.

Next morning, I look at my phone, and there's a text message from her. She took the day off, and asking again if I can pay her rent this month. So I said let's meet in a hotel. She says yes, but again insists on me paying her rent ($450). She sounded genuinely desperate, so I took the plunge and said okay, but I pick the hotel (it is $80 at the one near me) and she pays for it and also her roundtrip taxi fare ($30 is protocol here). Plus, I said this is a one-time deal. The per meet rate cannot be this high. She says okay. I tell her the hotel name, she books the room.

I then text her, don't wear makeup. I hate makeup. She says okay.

At 1 pm, she sends me a pic of her in the taxi, on the way to the hotel. I get on a rental bike and pedal over.

At 1:15 pm, she sends me a pic of her room number.

At 1:30 pm, I knock on her door.

Bros, I am not kidding or exaggerating when I say this, but when she opened the door, I was absolutely stunned. She is beautiful without her crappy and cheap and clownish makeup. If you're American, then you may remember the sitcom "Just Shoot Me. " I had a huge crush on the Maya Gallo character. Well, homely girl without makeup looks like a 16 year old version of Maya. Even her hair color and style, and dimples and smile, and especially her eyes, made her look like a teenage Maya.

I shower and we hit the bed. She asks why we are not going out. I then realize that she got dressed up for our date, LOL. (Later, I will discover that she thought we were going to spend the entire day together, and then stay overnight at the hotel. So, I guess asking for $450 wasn't being obnoxious, as she thought it would be a 20 hour date.).

We are cuddling, and then she unwraps my towel to check out my junk. She says I am huge and giggles. I ask her to take off her clothes, and she is so shy and giggly. But finally, they come off. Bros, I am not kidding, her body was phenomenal. Everything was firm, smooth, and soft. A young and nearly flawless body. You could bounce a quarter off of her stomach.

So, face and body, almost a 9 each.

DATY and then bareback sex. The look on her face was one of pleasure, disbelief, enjoyable pain, and ecstasy. She could barely breathe. And she is just clenching onto my shoulders as if she was drowning and trying desperately to hold on to save herself.

After an hour of sex, then we cuddled for an hour and chatted. She was asking me all kinds of questions about me and my life. She was so curious about me and so into me. She laughed at all of my jokes. To have this beautiful and young girl curled up next me, while both of us naked, made me feel like I was in college and in love again.

Afterwards, I told her I had to return to work. She was stunned that I was leaving. But for the rest of the day, we continued to text each other.

Bros, I am fucking smitten and totally infatuated. This probably means that I'm doomed, LOL.

A week and a half ago, I was down in the dumps. Then suddenly, she comes into my life. I am desperately hoping that this is the start of a fruitful, enjoyable, and satisfying arrangement.

The end.[/QUOTE]Dude this is too awesome. And so little going on worldwide right now. Thanks for the epic post. You going to have to splain tho how a girl goes from homely (unattractive) to a nine by taking OFF her makeup. LOL. You got some black magic voodoo going on?

Some unsolicited advice don't let it become pay for play or go overboard with $$. You paid her rent for god sakes. That means it's a lot of money to her. She should be girlfriending you for a bit and you gift her again when you want to. Not money for sex each time. But obviously since you dig her do what you feel.

Just recently moved to more of this model with Layla. She is trying to get a new car. Gave her a $1000 advance gift saying we'the figure out starting gifts again in late September. It's really just a timing thing same $$ but she is over the moon that I am helping her with her life. It will pay off. I can feel her vibe already changing.

Aha Maya Gallo = Laura San Giacomo. Omfg I só crush on her. U lucky dog!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2479251]Dude this is too awesome. And so little going on worldwide right now. Thanks for the epic post. You going to have to splain tho how a girl goes from homely (unattractive) to a nine by taking OFF her makeup. LOL. You got some black magic voodoo going on?

Some unsolicited advice don't let it become pay for play or go overboard with $$. You paid her rent for god sakes. That means it's a lot of money to her. She should be girlfriending you for a bit and you gift her again when you want to. Not money for sex each time. But obviously since you dig her do what you feel.

Just recently moved to more of this model with Layla. She is trying to get a new car. Gave her a $1000 advance gift saying we'the figure out starting gifts again in late September. It's really just a timing thing same $$ but she is over the moon that I am helping her with her life. It will pay off. I can feel her vibe already changing.

Aha Maya Gallo = Laura San Giacomo. Omfg I s crush on her. U lucky dog![/QUOTE]She has already become a HUGE FUCKING PAIN IN MY ASS! Today, she grills me for two hours on text, asking me if I always meet girls in hotel rooms. Jeezus fucking crist, it was her fucking original idea. And asking if I have a wife, and why we cannot meet at my place, etc. So, I tell her that I am divorced and my kid lives with me. Doesn't matter if this is true. But what do you think about this story?

Anyway, after 2 fucking hours of being grilled, I finally say the following: I like you and I like sex. You like me and you need money. Let's meet for sex and I give you money.

Well, that didn't go over well at all. She's saying that this is not what a real relationship is, and all that shit. I'm thinking, jeezus, so now you act like you're not a pay for play girl AFTER I paid your fucking rent?

Anyway, she wants to be my real GF. This is not what I want. But I need my cock in that body. So, I'm thinking about hanging out with her tomorrow and taking another hit.

Steve, I'm hoping yours is going smoother than mine, man. The main difference is that Layla signed up for an arrangement. As for me, I am trying to talk someone into an arrangement.

BTW, I'm drunk as I'm typing this.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2479281]She has already become a HUGE FUCKING PAIN IN MY ASS! Today, she grills me for two hours on text, asking me if I always meet girls in hotel rooms. Jeezus fucking crist, it was her fucking original idea. And asking if I have a wife, and why we cannot meet at my place, etc. So, I tell her that I am divorced and my kid lives with me. Doesn't matter if this is true. But what do you think about this story?

Anyway, after 2 fucking hours of being grilled, I finally say the following: I like you and I like sex. You like me and you need money. Let's meet for sex and I give you money.

Well, that didn't go over well at all. She's saying that this is not what a real relationship is, and all that shit. I'm thinking, jeezus, so now you act like you're not a pay for play girl AFTER I paid your fucking rent?

Anyway, she wants to be my real GF. This is not what I want. But I need my cock in that body. So, I'm thinking about hanging out with her tomorrow and taking another hit.

Steve, I'm hoping yours is going smoother than mine, man. The main difference is that Layla signed up for an arrangement. As for me, I am trying to talk someone into an arrangement.

BTW, I'm drunk as I'm typing this.[/QUOTE]That sucks that it went to hell so fast. Not that I should be giving advice but I think you have twice fucked up a good thing by treating girls like pros. This is the cardinal sin of SBSD (or really real life also). As soon as it feels transactional these crossover girls run for the hills. Remember the cow and meat analogy. No one wants to pay a guy to kill a cow in front of him. I want to buy the steak a long distance away from the killing. Keep the sex and the money as distant as possible.

I suggest you try playing BF for a bit. No $$ for a bit. Tell her you really like her but you are not long term boyfriend material. If she likes having a rich boyfriend but never more than that it's all cool. If she's here for LTR you are not that guy. But you are going to have to play boyfriend some if you want her. She's not down for strict sex for money.

P.S. Stop barebacking! This girl will ruin your world if she gets pregnant.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2479281]She has already become a HUGE FUCKING PAIN IN MY ASS! Today, she grills me for two hours on text, asking me if I always meet girls in hotel rooms. Jeezus fucking crist, it was her fucking original idea. And asking if I have a wife, and why we cannot meet at my place, etc. So, I tell her that I am divorced and my kid lives with me. Doesn't matter if this is true. But what do you think about this story?

Anyway, after 2 fucking hours of being grilled, I finally say the following: I like you and I like sex. You like me and you need money. Let's meet for sex and I give you money.

Well, that didn't go over well at all. She's saying that this is not what a real relationship is, and all that shit. I'm thinking, jeezus, so now you act like you're not a pay for play girl AFTER I paid your fucking rent?

Anyway, she wants to be my real GF. This is not what I want. But I need my cock in that body. So, I'm thinking about hanging out with her tomorrow and taking another hit.

Steve, I'm hoping yours is going smoother than mine, man. The main difference is that Layla signed up for an arrangement. As for me, I am trying to talk someone into an arrangement.

BTW, I'm drunk as I'm typing this.[/QUOTE]Isn't this similar to the receptionist? They are young and you met casually. They are not really pros until after you paid them. I would not indicate to the homely girl it is going to be ppm. I don't think she expected that. I think you will have free sex after that. You are a nice guy who doesn't take advantage of them, and I will want you to be a friend. The impression I get from your reports is that you only want to have sex, but you don't want to be with them when you are not having sex. You are also too rigid with how you pay them but I don't know if that is a good thing or bad.