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[QUOTE=Horntoad]Forest,

It depends if you want to take the train from Atocha station or not. The best two clubs in my opionion are flowers park and factory air in that order. Flowers park is approximately 20-25 minute train ride from atocha station. Please keep in mind that the train stops running around 11pm from Flowers Park so you would have to take a cab ride back that will probably run you abour 40 euros. I think the service was very good at Flowers Park. I had a two brazilian chicks and a romanian girl. Good luck![/QUOTE]

i think that the best station to take a train to FP is Principe Pio? It is way smaller than Atocha, so it is more difficult to make a mistake.

[QUOTE=Forest]Nice place but...First, none of the girls were Spanish. NONE of them.

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Afterwords, I ordered a taxi to go back. They made me leave a 20 euro deposit to order the taxi, which made me suspicious, but I got it back when the taxi arrived. The cost of the taxi to central Madrid was a little over 40 euros. During the day, the ride would have been less than 20 euros.

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I just do not remember the last time I saw a Spanish girl in a club.

For those who want to go to FP and do not want to spend a huge amount of money on a taxi back to Madrid: FP from 18:00 to 21:00 really rocks, with a peak about 19:00. Many white collar workers go there after leaving the office. Around 21:00 or so many girls go upstairs to have dinner. And then you can catch a train back to Madrid.

[QUOTE=Out for Flesh]i think that the best station to take a train to FP is Principe Pio? It is way smaller than Atocha, so it is more difficult to make a mistake.[/QUOTE]Out for Flesh,

I took the train from Atocha because our hotel was close by. Yes, Atocha is the main station so it can be daunting for a newbie like myself. We just asked for tickets to Las Matas station and when we got to the platforms, we asked somebody to make sure we were on the right train. I found out a fairly decent amount of people speak english in Madrid. Wish I was there now but Madrid can be pretty expensive. Have been to Thailand for my last few trips.

[QUOTE=Forest]Nice place but...First, none of the girls were Spanish. NONE of them. Most of them were South American, with a nice selection from Eastern Europe. Second, transportation is a huge problem. The train proved to be complicated. I ended up on a train that took me within two stops of where I wanted to go, and then went due east for 20 minutes non-stop in the wrong direction. The electonic board that tells you where you are going is accurate, but unfortunately, you have to know you are on the correct train before the information is posted, because the posting is never in advance of the next station. It is kind of like getting on a plane to NY, and having the pilot announce that you are going to NY after take off. In any case, I made it there after a 1h 20 minu train ride.

The girls are great. Truly great. There are no models, but many near models, and they are all very nice. You need to speak Spanish or Portuguese or you will be limited in your choice, but the Eastern European girls were fun as well (they insisted in speaking Spanish to me, although they were clearly better in English).

I chose a GORGEOUS brunette from Romania, who, when I asked, told me she did not BBBJ or kiss. The BBBJ was negotiable, but the kiss was not. She was so entertaining and personable I almost went with her, but either of these two features are deal breakers for me.

I talked to girls from Venezuela, Columbia and Brazil and finally chose a girl who said she was from Rio, but whose family now lives in Belo Horizonte. She spoke an incredilbly confusing mixture of Spanish and Portuguese. I spoke Portuguese and every time I did not understand, I was accused of drunkeness. I am not rich enough to get drunk at Flowers- Johnny Black is 15 euros a shot (coca cola is 12 euros). Drinks are NOT required, so it was my own fault that I ran up the tab a little.

My Brazilian girl and I negotiated everything, even the type of condom we would use for sex (I wanted to use my own, and she wanted to buy me condoms from the house). I paid 150 euros, although she would have gone for 140 without a fight (I told her that if the BBBJCIM was excellent she would get the extra 10 euros. The BBBJCIM was right up there with the best I have ever had).

Afterwords, I ordered a taxi to go back. They made me leave a 20 euro deposit to order the taxi, which made me suspicious, but I got it back when the taxi arrived. The cost of the taxi to central Madrid was a little over 40 euros. During the day, the ride would have been less than 20 euros.

Total cost was 1.65 euros for the train, 150 euros for the girl, 5 euros for the bed sheets, 30 euros for my two drinks, 40.6 euros for the taxi. Not bad for 3 hours at a putaria. MUCH MUCH MUCH more than I was paying just a few days ago for girls in the DR. But, I would gladly do this again.

Tomorrow, I have an internet date lined up. 160 euros for an hour of incall with a beautiful girl who does everything my Brazilian girl does. Taxi will probably run me 25 euros round trip. The girl wanted 250 euros for outcall, by the way. From an economic standpoint, the internet girls are a good deal. But I really had a lot of fun tonight. It was worth the small difference.[/QUOTE]Forest,

Yes, I didn't see any Spanish girls but I guess it didn't really matter to me because of the hot brazilians and romanians.

The drinks are very expensive and you can go broke there if you spend a few hours in the club. Next time, I will drink a couple before going in.

I had to leave 20 euros also when ordering a taxi. Other options are taking the last train back at 11pm or staying till morning when the trains start running again. :)

Spain is not a cheap country for mongering. You spoke about DR and I have been going to Thailand the last few trips and the cost is about a third. Hopefully my next trip is to Argentina where it is pretty inexpensive.

Good luck with your internet date and keep us posted!!

a trip report from this weekend. lots more clients, so had to park in the garage. lots of good looking women, was approached by several colombianas who were hot. strippers every half hour on the catwalk. the good news was that none of the plain-looking rumanians harassed me. i nursed my drink for about an hour. (find the coupon in guia del ocio.)

when i moved away from the bar to one of the seating areas against a wall, had the opportunity to chat with claudia, a 24-year old platinum blonde with a deep tan from hungary. she had a piercing in her navel, a tribal tattoo in the small of her back, and a snake tattoo on her stomach. she was a hard body, wearing a bright pink bikini top showing off a nice set of b cup breasts, and a pair of tight, low-cut jeans that revealed some ass cleavage in back. she was friendly, nuzzled and kissed me, and pulled the bikini top aside to reveal one of her breasts that she was able to move to her lips to lick on the nipple – all this while we were still in the bar! needless to say, i was convinced by her and we made a deal at 60 euros.

claudia was definitely into customer service. very relaxed, unhurried session. when we went to her room i saw that she had a dvd player and some dvds on the kama sutra. she peeled off her jeans to reveal that she was not wearing any underwear, and we started to dfk. her breasts were augmented, but still felt nice in my hands, and her tan was all over. we then washed up and headed to the bed, where she wanted me to do daty right away. i did not need to be asked twice to work on that nice shaved pussy with very prominent, porn-star-worthy lips. either she really liked it, or she was a good actress. after a while, it was my turn, and she did a very nice leisurely cbj. we then moved into fs in a couple of positions, all the while still engaging in dfk. she made a lot of noise, but not in an obnoxiously, obviously-fake manner. even after we finished and were headed back down to the bar, there was still a lot of kissing. definitely worth repeating.

There was a report in one of the Spanish newspapers today about the closing of Hotel Avion. The main reason cited was some kind of business permit dispute with the city, but the road work causing a complicated detour to get there was also blamed. The report said that many of the girls have moved "across the street" to Factory Air. This confirms what one of the girls told me last time I visited FA.

[QUOTE=Novio]There was a report in one of the Spanish newspapers today about the closing of Hotel Avion. The main reason cited was some kind of business permit dispute with the city, but the road work causing a complicated detour to get there was also blamed. The report said that many of the girls have moved "across the street" to Factory Air. This confirms what one of the girls told me last time I visited FA.[/QUOTE]


I passed by last week (returning from airport) and I realized that. I also realized that there were much more people in FA than usual. Maybe customers have also switched.

In Spain (and perhaps in other countries) many places are advertised as Sauna and Massage, but really they only offer sex, and I think that it is difficult to find an authentic sauna with sex services. I have found one in Madrid.

It is called "Agua y masaje" (water and massage). It's located in the zone of Plaza Cuzco, the address is Calle Juan Ramon Jimenez, 39; the entrance is in a side of the garage access ramp. Their web page is [url]http://aguaymasaje.es[/url]

The facilities are a small sauna, a small swimming pool (with underwater jets), and several bedrooms. Everything is very clean and well cared.

There are about six girls, all of them very attractive. They are introduced to you, and you can choose the girl and the service you want. I chose Carla for a 75 minutes service (160 euros), which includes some time in the sauna, some time in the swimming pool, and massage and full sex in the bedroom. All of this accompanied by the girl, of course, and using every facility privately. For this reason, it's normal to have to wait some minutes to enter in the sauna or the swimming pool (this was said to me by Carla), but you wait in the bedroom, so you can play with the girl in the meantime.

About Carla, I really loved her. Scores: Look=7, Attitude=9, Service=9. It was a Girl Friend Experience. She's slightly blonde, has a nice little body, well proportioned. The bed action was warm and very relaxed, with no hurry, CBJ, BLS, and several positions.

I think it's a good idea to have sex after having relaxed in the sauna/swimming pool.

Last week, while in Madrid, I had a different type of experience which I thought I would relate. I was checking out the escort web sites, and I came across a girl named “Nadia” [[url]http://www.fotosver.com/dama.php?id_anuncio_aux=1829][/url] whom I thought would be great for a romp, especially since she is a specialist in natural French (BBBJ). Her phone number is listed on the site as 662303023, and I gave it a call. Surprisingly enough, she picked up and I proposed that she some to my hotel at noon the next day (I had a 3:30 taxi planned from Madrid to Toledo, and I had everything planned to the minute). She wanted 250 euros for this- too much. So instead, we agreed on an incall situation at the same time (160 euros for an hour). She gave me the address of her place and we agreed that I would call her from the cab so that she could give the driver directions.

The next morning, I took in the Guernica at the Reina Sophia Museum, and then took off for Nadia. When I rang up her phone, someone else answered. They told me to call back in a few hours! I explained that this would not work since I was on my way out of town, and the woman immediately offered herself to me. After some discussion, I agreed to look. But when I came to the house, and rang the doorbell, a rather stout looking woman opened the door and let me in. She told me that the woman I had talked to was busy with a client, but if I sat down she would bring me 5 girls and I could have my choice. Nadia, she said, worked a later shift! She took me to a rather nice little room with a bed kichenette and bathroom, and within a few minutes started parading young ladies in front of me. The first was from Eastern Europe- I couldn’t catch the country but she spoke Russian and English only. She was very exotic- Asian in appearance, 20 years old, thin big tits. We talked for a moment and I asked about BBBJ. “Only with condom” she said, and I said goodbye. The second was Spanish- the only Spanish hooker I managed to see in my two days in Spain. She was a little fat and a lot ugly. The third was Brazilian from a small city near Brasilia. A big smile, wonderful body, pretty face with a hint of acne. The fourth was also Brazilian; this one didn’t need to be asked about what was on the menu (it included DFK and BBBJ), but she was a little chubby. And the fifth mysteriously had gone to take a shower and would not be available for 15 minutes. So number 3 was my choice.

The sex was great. We started by chatting in Portuguese (I am quite certain she was not expecting an American to chat her up in Portuguese) and during 69 I felt her clit swell and she had a quiet shuddering orgasm. When we finished she invited me to visit her in Brazil- she said I could stay in her house with her mother and father as long as I wanted when I visit next month. I have had several emails from her since.

The point of this is that I had inadvertently run into a prive, thinking it was an independent girl. If you are in Madrid, I suggest you give Nadia a call. She looks great, and when you get to her house you can always choose someone else if she does not interest you!

All in all, I liked Madrid as a place to find women. It was a lot easier to deal with than Lisbon (where I went to next), and even though the girls were mostly third world, the experience was not. Finally, I have a few non hooker girls whom I have met via the internet in Madrid, and they are far more sophisticated (yet not any more difficult for sex) than the "regular girls" I have met in third world countries. One last thing- the Prado and the restaurant scene are amazing. Having world class art and great food are a wonderful accompaniment to great sex.

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Incidentally, the [url]http://www.fotosver.com/[/url] web site has a large number of choices. Some of them may even be from Spain!

Hello guys,

I read about Flores/ Factory Air and the rest of the clubs.

But could you help me find a club opened during daytime?

I just saw this last post about massage and sauna, it seems a great place to try.

Any other thoughts?

Thank you

[QUOTE=Red Bunny]Hello guys,

I read about Flores/ Factory Air and the rest of the clubs.

But could you help me find a club opened during daytime?

I just saw this last post about massage and sauna, it seems a great place to try.

Any other thoughts?

Thank you[/QUOTE]

Flowers and Factory open at 17:00 - it is still daytime...

[QUOTE=Out for Flesh]Flowers and Factory open at 17:00 - it is still daytime...[/QUOTE]LOL :D

I meant from 9 AM till 16 PM

Based on the reports, I think:

Massages centers and appartments look to be the only deals.

Appartments are cheap but you cannot find good quality (> 7-8) and the rooms suck.

[QUOTE=Red Bunny]Hello guys,

I read about Flores/ Factory Air and the rest of the clubs.

But could you help me find a club opened during daytime?

I just saw this last post about massage and sauna, it seems a great place to try.

Any other thoughts?

Thank you[/QUOTE]Many clubs open at 18:00, especially Hot and Vive Madrid/Nirvana, and most of the clubs in the Plaza de Cuzco zone.

The only alternative to wait until 17:00 or 18:00 that I know is a club named "Sauna & Bar" (or "Bar & Sauna"), placed in Paseo Castellana, 180. Its telephone number is 913597676. I have read that it's open 24 hours. I haven't ever been there,
so I can't recommend it or not. If you go there and you don't lilke it, you can wait until 18:00 and cross Paseo Castellana (to the odd numbers sideway), enter Francisco Gervas street and go to known and standard clubs like "Rotterdam" or "Nudes". I have a post about "Nudes", it's the #737. In this post there is a mistake: I said Rosario Pino street, and the correct is Francisco Gervas street.

If anybody tries "Bar & Sauna", please drop a post.

Tasted her yesterday, after an unsuccessful hour in Factory Air (and chatting with girls coming from Avion who has their nose too high).

Paola has a bleached hair, she is not pretty, OK body (but not superb), claims not to have worked on the hobby in BsAs (but I do not really trust her). Says she's 21; that may be, but I had calculated some 25. She is slim.

The best thing is that she seems not to refuse to do anything, including some BDSM stuff which I like. All in all: body 6 (maybe 7 for some people...), attitude 9, performance 8 (too much moaning). Would repeat: depends on the mood.