South China - Guangzhou

Well, first let me say that Sansan is still working in Gz, despite what's been said here about police crackdowns. Her business card was posted previously in this thread, and that's where I got her mobile from. I won't post it again here, in case the mods don't like it.

Anyway, I think she speaks some basic english (don't know for sure, try yourself), and her girls go for 300rmb 1pop, 500rmb 2pops, plus taxi fare (Sansan said 20rmb to my place, and I live in city center). Did not try her services yet, but she said her girls go from 18 up, you can pick your favorite age. On the phone she sounds professional, but who knows...

About the HJ massage place behind Dongfang Hotel in Renmin Lu (side street called Panfu Da Jie, to be precise), which was also posted here somewhere, I tried and the massage is crappy. Girl starts rubbing your back for 10 minutes, then asks you to turn around, pop, bye bye. 168rmb is a little too much for that. Nice thing is they also offer FS for 368, both in-house or at your place, hotel or apartment. I forgot to pick up a business card, I don't think I'll be going over there anytime soon so someone might remember to post their contact, in case you have it.

A nice place I discovered about 1yr ago is the Tongtong hotel sauna, in Guangyuan Xi Lu, just behind the Huanshi Xi Lu train station. Facing the station, go left, pass Zhan Xi Lu (textile, shoes, watches markets) on your right, and turn right at the next crossroads, never crossing the main road, just follow the building on your right. That's Guangyuan Xi Lu. Now go straight for some 10 minutes, you can cross the road anytime, since the place is on the other side. You will pass first the Tong Tong Hotel, then after a few meters you will see the Tong Tong Sauna.

Now, here's the difference between this place and all the other massage+HJ places in Gz: here you get all your 90mins worth of massage, and a good one too. For my experience, any girl has reasonably good massage skills here, but the best is #91, who is also the teacher of all the other girls.

If you stick to Thai Massage (TaiShi), choose the free oil (instead of the 10rmb/bottle one, which is anyway quite good) and the fabric pyjama (instead of the paper one, 10rmb), the damage will be 138rmb. Also, you can get free foot massage in the main hall while you wait, before or after the 90mins massage.

Enjoy.

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[quote=oldasiahand]heymikey,

it depends on how much money you have to blow. houjie is more expensive but the quality is better imho. you can't beat the ktv and sauna in the sheraton hotel. all in house, safe and easy to manage. there are still a few bbs in houjie but most have been closed up. the rest are rep001tered about and difficult to find.

cp on the other hand is cheaper but more dangerous and difficult to navigate for a newbie. bbs action is more concentrated. if you can find a resident wingman, eg. big swinging dave, it could be ok but i would not recommend going it alone.

just my pov.

oah[/quote]thanks oah! i have made my plans and i'm staying at the sheraton houjie. hopefully this and the nearby kande club have not been effected by this weeks holiday.

btw, i'm not exactly a newbie. i've been visiting china for almost 20 years, just no reason to visit cp or houjie. actually, i remember being in cp long ago when it was a small town.- i arrived there via the old local train. i'm sure that nothing is the same as it was then. since then, i've driven through the area, but i never had a reason or the time to spend a night or 2.

thanks againn,

hm

[QUOTE=Bloated]Well, first let me say that Sansan is still working in Gz, despite what's been said here about police crackdowns. Her business card was posted previously in this thread, and that's where I got her mobile from. I won't post it again here, in case the mods don't like it.
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I had actually used her out of desperation a year ago, and her service was good. She brought two girls over to a MacDonald next to my hotel and I took my time to pick the girl I like. She was younger then typical SW in GZ, maybe 21 and service was also pretty good(BBBJ etc), I gave me 800 for spending the whole evening going to dance clubs and wine bar etc with me and it was totally GFE.

I didnt try her on my recent trip a couple of weeks ago as I was also having very good luck at Tang, which I can report separately.

Fillmore

Ok so about Tang.

Do you think it'll be a problem that I don't speak any chineese at all?

I speak only english.

What are the chances of me getting hooked up for FS at a sauna or BBS or KTV? Which would be the easiest for a non chineese speaker as myself?

Thanks for your assistance guys.

Stay safe,

MM

[QUOTE=Mikey Mad]Ok so about Tang.

Do you think it'll be a problem that I don't speak any chineese at all?

I speak only english.

What are the chances of me getting hooked up for FS at a sauna or BBS or KTV? Which would be the easiest for a non chineese speaker as myself?

Thanks for your assistance guys.

Stay safe,

MM[/QUOTE]

No Chinese needed at Tang, in fact, most WG there don't speak Chinese; and all the Chinese who go to Tang (WG or not) speak good enough English.

As for BBS, Sauna or KTV, I have not had a reason to explore in GZ yet.

To find an impromptu WG in GZ ,best to just head over to Tang as you will always find something there. Kama bar was mostly empty until after 2am. Gypsy King is still closed.

If you have more time, better just head over to CP and you will then find everything and much cheaper.

Fillmore

HeyMikey,

I know that you are not a newbie to China and all. But from my experience at the Sheraton in Houjie, be sure to choose the rooms in the newer wing and not the older wing. Last time I went to their KTV and they basically gave me a KTV discount rate for the hotel rooms, like 50% off almost. But the newer rooms in the new wing are really quite extraordinary- almost like a W hotel decor. Very modern, new beds, fixtures and a nice 43 inch flat screen TV. The first night I made the mistake to stay in the old rooms, which was substandard, but the second night, staying at the new rooms felt very very nice!

AsnDragon

[QUOTE=Heymikey]Thanks OAH! I have made my plans and I'm staying at the Sheraton Houjie. Hopefully this and the nearby Kande Club have not been effected by this weeks holiday.

BTW, I'm not exactly a newbie. I've been visiting China for almost 20 years, just no reason to visit CP or Houjie. Actually, I remember being in CP long ago when it was a small town.- I arrived there via the old local train. I'm sure that nothing is the same as it was then. Since then, I've driven through the area, but I never had a reason or the time to spend a night or 2.

Thanks againn,

HM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AsnDragon]HeyMikey,

I know that you are not a newbie to China and all. But from my experience at the Sheraton in Houjie, be sure to choose the rooms in the newer wing and not the older wing. Last time I went to their KTV and they basically gave me a KTV discount rate for the hotel rooms, like 50% off almost. But the newer rooms in the new wing are really quite extraordinary- almost like a W hotel decor. Very modern, new beds, fixtures and a nice 43 inch flat screen TV. The first night I made the mistake to stay in the old rooms, which was substandard, but the second night, staying at the new rooms felt very very nice!

AsnDragon[/QUOTE]AsnDragon,

I'll be sure to ask for the new wing. THANKS! Just out of curiosity, how does the Kande Club talent compare to the Sheraton KTV and/or sauna? I imagine that since the Sheraton's club is on-site, this is likely much easier. I wonder if they would be willinng to send the line-up right to my room?

Take care,

HeyMikey

Hi

I'm the new one here so please be tolerance because of my (maybe stupid) questions as well as my not so good english.

According to the topic of my post I'd like to ask you guys about the possibility of STD receving in saunas (not BBS) during BBBJ. I do not ask about the FS because I'm only interested in CFC.

As I mention I am only interested in saunas because probably the risk is less than in the BBS. Im going to China in 2 weeks and stay there 10 days: 4 in ShenZhen (Century Kingdom hotel), 5 in Guangzhou (Ramada Pearl) and 1 in Hong Kong (Mariott Sky City).

Do You think the saunas in those places are rather safe or it is better not to risk and just go CBJ?

It is is not my first time in China but I only did very light things (FBSM and HJ) so I'd like to try something else.

Sorry, I don't think that they will send the line up to your room. But since you are going to be staying at the Sheraton, I would imagine it to be much more convenient for you to bring the girl upstairs from the KTV. From what I've seen Sheraton has a great line up, it's just that the girls there are a bit more spoiled because people who go to Sheraton are high rollers. However, once or twice a week they have a runway cat walk, where all the top model quality KTV girls there basically display themselves for all guys to choose and see who's pretty and who's hot! The girls on average are a good 8 and above in looks.

Enjoy yourself. Houjie can be a bit dangerous at night time though. Be sure to travel in groups if possible at night, as robberies or pickpockets are all around that area.

AsnDragon

[QUOTE=Heymikey]AsnDragon,

I'll be sure to ask for the new wing. THANKS! Just out of curiosity, how does the Kande Club talent compare to the Sheraton KTV and/or sauna? I imagine that since the Sheraton's club is on-site, this is likely much easier. I wonder if they would be willinng to send the line-up right to my room?

Take care,

HeyMikey[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mkosiek]Hi

I'm the new one here so please be tolerance because of my (maybe stupid) questions as well as my not so good english.

According to the topic of my post I'd like to ask you guys about the possibility of STD receving in saunas (not BBS) during BBBJ. I do not ask about the FS because I'm only interested in CFC.

As I mention I am only interested in saunas because probably the risk is less than in the BBS. Im going to China in 2 weeks and stay there 10 days: 4 in ShenZhen (Century Kingdom hotel), 5 in Guangzhou (Ramada Pearl) and 1 in Hong Kong (Mariott Sky City).

Do You think the saunas in those places are rather safe or it is better not to risk and just go CBJ?

It is is not my first time in China but I only did very light things (FBSM and HJ) so I'd like to try something else.[/QUOTE]I don't know where you got the idea that Saunas are safer than BBS or even freelancers. Saunas in China do not check their chicks for STD's as far as I know. CFS is the smart choice in all situations outside a regular "GF" type setup. If you find a Sauna that checks periodically for STD any where in GD, please share with us.

Cheers

Hi all, here's in my first report here. In fact, I wasn't in Guangzhou for mongering, but just for pleasant experiences. I haven't crossed the line yet!

The first place I tired was a sauna, 129 RMB for one hour. After 30 min massage, the girl lied next to me, and started to stroke my chest, and tried to go lower. I said I didn't her to HJ. So softly, she asked me: "do you want to make love? ". She was 24, a bit round but not fat, quite good looking. A bit astonished by her proposition, I just refused. Then she just lied against me and asked me to hold her and started on sleep in my arms. So I proposed to massage her, and she was glad. After standard massage, I just did like her, lied next to her and started to stroke her belly, under her shirt. She took my hand and put it to her tits. After a while, I proposed to stroke her lower. She was a but reluctant, but finally I convinced her. She showed me where she liked it, and after 20 min, she came for real, with my hand! Guess it's the 1st time a customer tried to give her pleasure without trying to f*** her, she was very embarassed.

I came back a week later, and sadly, found out that all the 60 girls working there may have sex if they like you, just add 200 RMB (150 for the girl, 50 for the sauna). No tip or anything, you pay at the cashier when you finish.

I also tried another place a bt more interesting. 108 RMB for standard massage, 128 for thai oil massage + HJ (you completly naked), and 178 for the boobs oil massage (you naked, the girls just keeps her pants, and she strokes your full body with her boobs, and to finish, she jut takes your d**k between her boobs and make you cum there). I had that with a 18 yo girl, slim and with decent breasts, she was very shy, it was funny.

She told me that they learn to do that in group class. 2 girls together with learn to massage each others with boobs. And to learn to work on guys d***, they call a guy from the sauna (f. Ex. The guy taking your clothes or waiters), he has no choice, and he just lies there naked, with the teacher and 10 girls around looking. Ok, he has free HJ and can cum on girls boobs, but I wonder if he can get hard like that! Typical Chinese situation!

[QUOTE=Marcopo]Hi all, here's in my first report here. In fact, I wasn't in Guangzhou for mongering, but just for pleasant experiences. I haven't crossed the line yet!

The first place I tired was a sauna, 129 RMB for one hour. After 30 min massage, the girl lied next to me, and started to stroke my chest, and tried to go lower. I said I didn't her to HJ. So softly, she asked me: "do you want to make love? ". She was 24, a bit round but not fat, quite good looking. A bit astonished by her proposition, I just refused. Then she just lied against me and asked me to hold her and started on sleep in my arms. So I proposed to massage her, and she was glad. After standard massage, I just did like her, lied next to her and started to stroke her belly, under her shirt. She took my hand and put it to her tits. After a while, I proposed to stroke her lower. She was a but reluctant, but finally I convinced her. She showed me where she liked it, and after 20 min, she came for real, with my hand! Guess it's the 1st time a customer tried to give her pleasure without trying to f*** her, she was very embarassed.

I came back a week later, and sadly, found out that all the 60 girls working there may have sex if they like you, just add 200 RMB (150 for the girl, 50 for the sauna). No tip or anything, you pay at the cashier when you finish.

I also tried another place a bt more interesting. 108 RMB for standard massage, 128 for thai oil massage + HJ (you completly naked), and 178 for the boobs oil massage (you naked, the girls just keeps her pants, and she strokes your full body with her boobs, and to finish, she jut takes your d**k between her boobs and make you cum there). I had that with a 18 yo girl, slim and with decent breasts, she was very shy, it was funny.

She told me that they learn to do that in group class. 2 girls together with learn to massage each others with boobs. And to learn to work on guys d***, they call a guy from the sauna (f. Ex. The guy taking your clothes or waiters), he has no choice, and he just lies there naked, with the teacher and 10 girls around looking. Ok, he has free HJ and can cum on girls boobs, but I wonder if he can get hard like that! Typical Chinese situation![/QUOTE]


Marcopo,

Great report but where are these places?

OAH

[QUOTE=Mishwar]I don't know where you got the idea that Saunas are safer than BBS or even freelancers. Saunas in China do not check their chicks for STD's as far as I know. CFS is the smart choice in all situations outside a regular "GF" type setup. If you find a Sauna that checks periodically for STD any where in GD, please share with us.

Cheers[/QUOTE]O.K. I will.

That's poor. I'd like to try BBBJ but probably I will not be courageous enough :-(.
Do you know how high is the risk. I've studied older posters at this forum and find out some comments that in can be even up to 20%.
For me, it is extremaly high risk rate.

Are there any "safter" kinds of places than saunas, BBS or the risk is equal everywhere ?

Marcopo, nice report indeed.

I jojn to OAH's request. Where are those places?

I'll be in GZ in 2,5 weeks so I am veeeery interested in.

Hey guys

Im coming to Guangzhou Wed Oct 21 for only 3 nights.

What region do you advise for me to stay in thats reasonably safe, close to the bars, restaurants, markets and these clubs like Tang and Gypsy Kings. Is Tianhe the right region?

Any hotel recommendations that is girl friendly?

Thanks guys.

If anyone needs any help/info about Ukraine, dont hesitate!

Regards,

Rob