Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1414946]Eden specialises in 2 lady massage but they have mixed reviews. Any other places where I can get the same service?[/QUOTE]All the MPs offer 2 lady massages, but don't expect the lesbian action and ability to satisfy unusual prurient interests and special appetites like you will find at Eden.

Generally, if you book two ladies at an MP the most you'll get is them working on you as a team and letting you have your way with each of them one at a time with the other girl gives you some added attention. If you're looking for lesbian action or you and one of the girls working on the other girl, such as a guy and girl with strapon DPing the other girl, you're highly unlikely to get this at one of the MPs.

You could book two escorts and get this kind of threesomes action, but make it very clear you want genuine lesbian action when you make the booking. The problem is the escorts will be much more expensive than Eden. If you're looking for this kind of action and don't mind paying for it send me a PM and I'll give you the name of two escorts. I guarantee you they are very good looking and really know what they are doing. Because of the cost, I'm not necessarily recommending this option, but it will cost a lot less in Bangkok than other major cities.

My advice, pay Eden a visit and size it up for yourself.

The criticisms of Eden tends to be the physical appearance of the ladies and that the ladies follow a script. As it sounds like this will be your first visit the script will be new to you; and you can just look at the ladies and decide if their looks suit you. Go in, buy a drink, look the ladies over, talk to the manager and decide for yourself. Thank them for the drink and walk out if you don't like what you see. If you decide to use Eden's services the general advice is for you to pick one girl and let her pick the second girl. This ensures the two girls are comfortable working together.

One more option, if you're looking for exotic experiences, might be BarBar in Patpong.

[url]http://barbarfetishclub.com/[/url]

It's a fetish bar with mistresses and slaves, and you and your lady or ladies of choice get to be part of the show for whomever is there to watch.

[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1414946]Eden specialises in 2 lady massage but they have mixed reviews. Any other places where I can get the same service?[/QUOTE]Go to Tulip, Mango, Cherry, Annie's, Snow white etc and you can experience great service from 2 or more ladies. Ask the mamasan when you select the girls if they work well with each other.

[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1414946]Eden specialises in 2 lady massage but they have mixed reviews. Any other places where I can get the same service?[/QUOTE]Devil's Den in Pattaya has service similar to Eden and has pics and customer reviews on their site, lots of info on other forums about DD:

[url]http://www.devilsdenthailand.com/profiles.html[/url]

Other than that you could try to get gogo or freelancers to do a threesome, likely with mixed results. I have read you can get good threesome action at some massage places, Apple at Cherry massage + her choice of a second girl is supposed to be a nice option. Have not tried her myself but plan to in May.

The added bonus at Eden and Devil's Den is that the girls bring their own sex toys and strap-ons and do the girl-on-girl p*why-eating bit without any prompting on your part. You will likely have to direct the action if you are looking for this kind of girl / girl interaction anywhere else, finding girls who work well together in a fully interactive porn-style threeway outside of Eden or Devil's Den is always a crapshoot in my experience but it is great when it happens. I wish you luck.

I have experienced plenty of threesomes where girls do not play with each other, not as much fun IMO.

The main complaints about Eden tend to be in regard to the prices and the looks of the girls, the price per girl at the moment is almost exactly the same as the prices at Tulip / Snow White / Mango / Cherry etc, I can't vouch for the looks of the current lineup as I haven't been there for a few years. I suspect if you go at the right time of day you will find at least a few you are attracted to.

I haven't seen many complaints about the service levels other than the terms "mechanical" or "scripted" thrown about but these girls are trained to give full by-the-book PSE so of course it will be "scripted", something like starring in your own porn film with well trained and well directed actresses. I found with the girls I chose I could direct the action and the ladies were happy to do whatever I asked, just ask the papa if you have specific requests or fantasies and he will match you up with the right girls.

I recommend giving Eden a shot, go early around 1PM, have a beer and take a look at the lineup. You have nothing to lose. If you don't see anyone do-able move on, if you see a couple of girls you think are cute I think you will have a very nice time there, I know I did.

And please report here with the names of the girls you see if you do go, there has not been much info on Eden's current girls in this forum.

[QUOTE=Linkwray666; 1414386]Mongers? Sex workers who advertise GFE? I certainly didn't make this stuff up, I found it by researching the meaning of the term GFE after reading it on the internet. Before I looked it up my assumption was GFE meant the flowery romantic thing you believe it means.

If YOU Google "GFE" and dig a little deeper than the one quote you provided you will find lists of sexual terms and abbreviations and their definitions, typically GFE is described as INCLUDING "DATY, dfk, BBBJ, msog"[/QUOTE]I found variations of this definition on the first several hits I got when I put GFE in Google. True the articles went on to list specific sexual acts, but these are in addition to the basic definition. My point is that a BJ, DFK and a fuck do not necessarily constitute a GFE. It's the way these things are done and the context in which they are delivered.

[QUOTE=Linkwray666;1414386]If I pay a sex worker for GFE and do am not allowed DFK, BBBJ, MSOG, and DATY I would say I did not receive GFE, no matter how much she batted her eyelashes, told me she loved me, held my hand, cooked me dinner, etc. I am paying for I have had quite a few honest to goodness girlfriends in my 50 years of living and have never had a girlfriend who would not allow DFK, BBBJ, MSOG, and DATY. How about you?[/QUOTE]I agree with you. I expect those services. I don't expect and have never had a SW tell me she loved me or had her bat her eyes at me. I wouldn't knowingly book an escort stupid enough to act that way. I can't recall ever running across a website where the woman claimed to provide a GFE and didn't provide all those services. Like you my ex-wife and all my girlfriends enjoyed DFK, BBBJ, CIM, MSOG and DATY. These are necessary for me to have a long term relationship with a woman. My ex and one of the former girlfriends were also a-level. But I've had friends whose wives and girlfriends would not give a BJ or let the guy perform DATY on them. Escort commonly report that the guys who pay top dollar to get a true GFE from them are looking for something they don't get in their marriages.

[QUOTE=Linkwray666;1414386]if it is really a problem for you I recommend you coin your own term and abbreviation[/QUOTE]No problem. I don't take this forum seriously. As far as this forum is concerned, I don't take myself seriously. It's a fucking sex forum. I'm just having fun expressing my opinions. I enjoy arguing over the silly, meaningless topics we report on. The only time I'm serious is when I run across a post or get a PM from someone looking for information. Then I try my best to be helpful.

[QUOTE=Linkwray666;1414386]I get it. Expensive call girls are way better than Bangkok massage parlor girls. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]You seem like a smart guy who knows what he's talking about so I'm not surprised you find this obvious. Funny thing, read this forum and you'll find plenty of guys who get furious when I suggest expensive escorts are expensive because they're prettier and provide better services. I tend to harp on the subject precisely because they get so upset. They're entitled to their opinions, but as you point out they are obviously wrong. Your support is deeply appreciated.

[QUOTE=Linkwray666;1414386]Damn, why so antagonistic?[/QUOTE]Hey, I'm sorry if I upset you, and I'm serious. In one of my first posts I tried to make it clear I get a kick out the attacks on my posts and took no offense, even if it was intended. In another early post I also explicitly stated that I'm just having fun and feel no malice when I make a provocative post. Of course the problem is it's unlikely anyone remembers these posts, even in the unlikely event they read the post. I think of it as being like a little trash talk among friends during a pickup game of hoops. Not that I'd want any of the dirty sex mongers on this forum as a friend. I'm kidding, I'm kidding!

[QUOTE=EZmassageBKK; 1414832]I want to point out that not all ladies expect additional tip of 500 baht on top of the standard fees. It is totally voluntary basis if you want to give tip and also at any amount you want.

Personally I myself don't give tips when I go to P4P if the price is all inclusive but if you are very happy with the girl service then why not.

We had customers who do not give tip (perfectly fine since they already paid all inclusive) and also had customers who gave 10, 000 baht tip![/QUOTE]I wouldn't tip bad service. And I am aware that most Thais do not assume a tip, an attitude that I find very refreshing. However, I'm from the United States where some industries pay very poorly so everyone in the industry expects a good tip for bad service and a fantastic tip for average service. I was implying that if the guy is happy with the girl's service in my opinion a tip of THB500 is appropriate; and exceptional service would warrant a more generous tip. The customary size of tips vary from country to country. It's always helpful to know the local practices.

[QUOTE=Zenlove;1414985]Go to Tulip, Mango, Cherry, Annie's, Snow white etc and you can experience great service from 2 or more ladies. Ask the mamasan when you select the girls if they work well with each other.[/QUOTE]Go to Cherry and see if Vodka takes your fancy. She was more than wiling to please, ask her to choose another girl and report back here.

[QUOTE=Akumas;1415123]Go to Cherry and see if Vodka takes your fancy. She was more than wiling to please, ask her to choose another girl and report back here.[/QUOTE]Go to Cherry massage and take Apple and Ice together.

That is what I am planing to do 10 days later.

Rgrds

Thank you all for providing such wonderful info. I bet these info is hard to find on google. Thank you all for providing links. I'm visiting Bangkok by the end of this month.

Thanks a lot for all the tips! I love ISG!

[QUOTE=Harold444;1415216]Am I the only one who associates GFE with actually liking the girl, not what sex acts they perform. Shooting cum in a girls eye would then contitute GFE. Ludicrous![/QUOTE]Everyone has their own opinion on this.

This is the Wiktionary definiton: a sexual encounter with a prostitute where she provides a lot of cuddling, kissing, and more intimate versions of certain acts.

It is pretty simple for me. The above is what I would consider a GFE.

I am not looking for a GF. But it is the sexual encounter with sexual acts where she acts like your GF.

In reality for me, many of the SW and MP, and FL's I meet are really GFE+, because they do many sexual acts that please me. But you have to know how to pick them.

Just to respond you comment Harold. If I spend 1/2 hour with a girl. She is decent looking, smiles, will do anything sexually you ask, performs with energy, passion, and w / o complaints. A nice GFE in my opinion. Yes, I like her. For that 30 minutes she fucked me silly and made me happy, I like her alot.

Call me shallow I guess. It sure works great for me though.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1415216]Am I the only one who associates GFE with actually liking the girl, not what sex acts they perform[/QUOTE]You are not the only one but you seem to be in the minority. I think there might be less confusion on this if everyone adopted the term Paul K keeps using,"True GFE", or "TGFE" to refer to the all-in-your-head fairytale fantasy experience and continued to use GFE the way is has been used by sex workers and mongers for years to describe a list of sex acts performed with a smile.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1415216]Shooting cum in a girls eye would then contitute GFE.[/QUOTE]WRONG! Shooting cum in a girls eye is clearly PSE!

[quote=harold444;1415216]am i the only one who associates gfe with actually liking the girl, not what sex acts they perform. shooting cum in a girls eye would then contitute gfe. ludicrous![/quote]personally, i think it is normal to like the girl you're having sex with; and the girls who offer a good gfe are very endearing and all too easy to like a bit too much. i think the key is to remember it's only business.

i also think guys who have sex with women they don't like have emotional problems. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is not a sex act, it's a violent assault of a woman. a deep seated anger towards women is the motivation. i wonder if the guys who treat the women they fuck aggressively and for example enjoy performing rough anal on a girl who is in obvious pain are not too far removed from the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127][CodeWord127][/url]. sure some people are into sm, but that is a totally different matter.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1415277]it is the sexual encounter with sexual acts where she acts like your GF.

In reality for me, many of the SW and MP, and FL's I meet are really GFE+, because they do many sexual acts that please me. But you have to know how to pick them.[/QUOTE]I would only add to your definition that for the session to qualify as a GFE, the sexual act (s) must be performed with enthusiasm and passion. Lacking passion, a shag can still be very good if the girl really knows how to shag and has a great little pussy. I would consider that more a PSE and there is nothing wrong IMHO with just great sex. I get a lot of that PSE in Macau Saunas and I sure pay up for it. I am talking about fire and ice bbbj's, anal rims, cat licking, and pussy muscle contractions around my dick. In other words, wild sex with expertly trained beautiful Chinese sauna girls. I love Macau. But only a few times in the saunas did I feel I was getting through to the girl and turning her on. Those times were memorable. So to me, the GFE is an experience or performance only if it convinces me, the consumer or customer, it is real I. E. the girl is enjoying the sex as much as or almost as much as I am. It does not matter if she is faking it as long as I am convinced or almost convinced it is real. I say kudos to good acting and I have known some great actresses over the years. But sometimes it is not acting and the girl is really getting off on it. That is when things get really interesting. And when I find girls like that, capable of really getting into it and enjoying the sex, and there are a lot of them out there in LOS, the PI, and Indonesia, who are also very attractive (7* and above) with good personalities, then I will look forward to seeing her again and again. Why not? It is a commercial relationship for sure, but it is also a GFE relationship too.

Take my little Baccara Go Go GF that I have been shagging for 4. 5 years now. I always use the qualifier "Go Go" girlfriend when I refer to her, not just girlfriend. There is a difference and I know it. At the end of the night, I pay her and she leaves. Thank Buddha. And what does my "Go Go" girlfriend think of me? Well who knows for sure, but I would say she considers me somewhere in between one of her best long time customers and her 'American' boyfriend. Again note the qualifier: 'American' BF as opposed to just BF. In any case it is a win win for both of us because it is based on mutually satisfying, very passionate sex, (the GFE thing) and money.

"BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO PICK THEM" and cultivate them, especially in Go Go's and bars. Damn straight LP!

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1415277]Everyone has their own opinion on this.

This is the Wiktionary definiton: a sexual encounter with a prostitute where she provides a lot of cuddling, kissing, and more intimate versions of certain acts.

It is pretty simple for me. The above is what I would consider a GFE.

Call me shallow I guess. It sure works great for me though.[/QUOTE]I don't think you're the least bit shallow. Not that my opinions matter. I think this definition or some variation on it perfectly captures a GFE.

My posts on this topic were intended to be read with more than a little amusement.

How humans understand words is a fundamental part of philosophical inquiries into the nature of human knowledge, which is very relevant to fields like cognitive science and the creation of intelligent artificial systems. When I saw posts on what constitutes a GFE it struck me as funny that it is a perfect example of a problem in the philosophy of mind and language. For example, how would you define a table? A flat top with four legs that people eat off of? There are lots of tables that don't fit this definition, or any definition of what is a table. Yet we all know what a table is. So what is a GFE? The best we can do is what you are saying, which I think we all agree hits the nail on the head. And we all expect enthusiastic DFK, a BJ preferably uncovered, some DATY and a passionate fuck in several positions followed by some cuddling and kissing.

The problem is I think it's difficult to walk into an MP and get a good GFE the first time you're with a girl. She doesn't know you. She may have had a bad experience with a previous client. She's recently had too many clients and has lost her enthusiasm. She has a hangover from the night before. A few sessions with the same girl is another matter. Now she knows you and thinks of you as one of her good clients. SW have told me they genuinely enjoy being with their good clients, which makes it much easier for them to give these guys there best service.

I envy you guys who are able to spend a lot of time in Bangkok. You can sample the variety and cultivate a few honeys who are happy to once again see one of their favorite clients. You have the best of both worlds.

I thought I was obviously being silly to frame the meaning of a GFE within the framework Kant used in his [I]Critique of Pure Reason[/I], and then to make a vague illusion to Wittgenstein's [I]Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus[/I] And his posthumous [I]Philosophical Investigations[/I]. Sometimes you need to let everyone else in on the joke otherwise there is no joke. My mistake.

I read this forum with a combination of amusement and interest. As I said in my previous post, sometimes I have fun with a little trash talk, and when I do I invite all of you to try to stuff one of my attempts at a dunk into my face. That's part of what makes the game fun.

Some time ago a member posted that when Cherry was still working at Mango she told him Cream would be a good choice for double girl action. Though the post didn't mention with whom. In my Mango data base I also find this review of Cream: [I]"Cream is actually quite a cute girl. From Central Thailand, not from Isaan, hence the nice face. She has one kid, but no damage from it, a big fake rack, and a nice easy going attitude. Performance is not superstar quality, but she is accommodating. Her CG is quite good."[/I] Another member posted the following after reading this review:[I] "Wow, I totally wouldn't have guessed about the kid or fake tits based on my one session with her."[/I]

My only advice is if you're looking for some lesbian action, make this clear and verify that the girls are into this. I've been in threesomes where the lesbian action was almost none existent; only to do another threesome with one of the girls and a a different second girl and the lesbian action was fantastic. And both of these girls swore they were strictly hetero and had no interest in the lesbian stuff unless a guy was with them.

But, if you just want two girls working you over these guys know what they're talking about, you can get this at any of the MPs mentioned below.

When Eden was at its best it was famous for the lesbian action and ability to satisfy most fetishes know to men and mongers. The French guy who owned the place took pride in his ability to satisfy any man's deepest desires. I think I read somewhere he had serious health problems, the place suffered and then really went down hill when he died. In it's hay days, Tulip was also a good place to find some of this action. Haven't been there for quite some time, but I guess it still is, though the quality of the ladies is not what it once was. I'm not aware any of the other MPs have a reputation for hard core lesbian action and catering to fetishes.

[QUOTE=Akumas;1415123]Go to Cherry and see if Vodka takes your fancy. She was more than wiling to please, ask her to choose another girl and report back here.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Lmrzccgs3; 1415237]Go to Cherry massage and take Apple and Ice together.

That is what I am planing to do 10 days later.

Rgrds[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Zenlove;1414985]Go to Tulip, Mango, Cherry, Annie's, Snow white etc and you can experience great service from 2 or more ladies. Ask the mamasan when you select the girls if they work well with each other.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1414946]Eden specialises in 2 lady massage but they have mixed reviews. Any other places where I can get the same service?[/QUOTE]