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[QUOTE=Skogis;1561356]I guess we are talking about one country seemingly interested in developing vs one that are not (Thai vs Phils).[/QUOTE]In PH the oligarchs who own the dominant Telcos bankroll election candidates. And you need millions of pesos to win per PH electoral systems. Buy votes.
So how will an elected Senator / congressman / president push for any law that may demand accountability from service providers?
[quote=goodenough; 1561381]the inefficiency of almost every sector here is overwhelming, and given that the inefficiencies are so pervasive, i can only conclude that the condition exists through the indifference of those who own the economy and administer the country. there's no other explanation that makes any sense to me. did i mention that according to a recent international survey the philippines has the lowest average internet speed in asia?
ge[/quote]but on the "flip" side ge, the philippines reduced poverty to 19.3% of the population from 22% last year and 2 popes reached sainthood. this was huge news here and still is 3 days past the event! plus obama promised to save the philippines from any attack. mainly because pnoy said the country did not have many or any fighter planes!
so the oligarchs will tell you via the spin doctors aka palace spokesmen / women that the economy is great (tiger economy) and poverty is falling, plus of course corruption is being tackled and the usa will save it from china so life must be great lol.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1561395]Perpetuation of the oligarchs at the expense of everybody else. And they are so docile. Maybe, just maybe all of the pork barrels will open and convictions will result with actual consequences and prison terms.[/QUOTE]Two hopes Slippery.
No hope and Bob Hope and he died many years ago LOL.
Look how long it takes to bring anyone to justice here, recently some Zambo mayor's plunder charge was dismissed as the prosecution had taken so long to bring it to the court (over 10 years) , the 53 journalists murdered 5 years ago. Still no trail, and the list goes on.
The oligarchs will hope the new leader in 2016 will pardon all the naughty politicians proving crime does pay LOL, by then none of the corruption cases you read about will anywhere near a court anyway.
[quote=goodenough;1561407]ain't going to happen.[/quote]i agree with you. most filipinos attention span is so short, maybe a new charge against gma or something like that and everybody will demand the bigger criminal (gma) need punished.
after all, they still vote in marcos family right? and bongbong recently proudly declared they really are guilt free as no cases are pending anymore.
to spice up things, a up law professor wrote an article comparing gma and ping, and why ping lacson should lead the country.
gma was a thief, and ping was a murderer. and per the prof's logic, you shouldn't forgive a thief but you should forgive a murderer, as the former is a bigger criminal, and believe me, many are starting to sing praises for ping.
btw, another article went on to describe how vic sotto who gang raped a minor and then begged forgiveness on tv, is being respected enough to be voted in. people admired his courage to seek forgiveness and did vote him in. (never mind the fact the victim was a minor and later killed herself under mysterious circumstances. and since nobody pressed charges the criminal along with his partners in crime never went to jail.)
i can quote many examples, including the son on singson charged for drugs in hk but got a heroes welcome in philippines when he was released. after all he took drugs to overcome his grief on breaking up with his gf.
did someone say things will change in philippines? really?
I was intrigued to read that the estranged wife of the beleaguered Clippers' owner has handed a lawsuit to his gf contending that the gf "engages in conduct designed to target, befriend, seduce and then entice, cajole, borrow from, cheat and / or receive as gifts transfers of wealth from wealthy older men. '
What a rich minefield of potential litigation for the Philippines?
Be careful on line with Filipino links guys.
They use all sorts of tricks these days.
[url]http://www.rappler.com/nation/57022-interpol-pnp-nab-online-sextortion-ring-in-ph[/url]
Mostly this have not been on my agenda to droddle around but on my recent Makati stay following happened:
Had this spinner agreeing to meet up at 3pm (I don't want to mention the 60 or so texts she send before even lunchtime the actual day we supposed to meet). Well anyway 2 pm she tells me she's on her way (she don't live to far so I hurry up to goodbye the present pinay making her to move so I can have refresh moment alone).
3pm happens and it is like many texts. I ask humbly when you come?"It is so trapic" she answers. And follow this closely, I ask how delayed will you be?"30 min maximum".
3:40pm I text her were are you, are you getting close? How many minutes until you come etc?"1 hour maby" she text me.
So the recognition of time and room is quite badly trained down in 3 world I guess? To her defense, she was poor girl, did not know how to travel very well, was quite not a world traveller, so I tipped her well after sessions feeling a tad sorry for her.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1562151]So the recognition of time and room is quite badly trained down in 3 world I guess? To her defense, she was poor girl, did not know how to travel very well, was quite not a world traveller, so I tipped her well after sessions feeling a tad sorry for her.[/QUOTE]A lot of Manila taxi drivers have no qualms screwing innocent looking local passengers, from what I know.
A girl took a taxi from San Juan to Makati, on a Saturday and after 2 hours, the driver dropped her near Greenbelt saying he don't know how to get to Makati Ave. The girl showed the receipt for nearly 300 peso.
[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1562187]A lot of Manila taxi drivers have no qualms screwing innocent looking local passengers, from what I know.
A girl took a taxi from San Juan to Makati, on a Saturday and after 2 hours, the driver dropped her near Greenbelt saying he don't know how to get to Makati Ave. The girl showed the receipt for nearly 300 peso.[/QUOTE]On my last trip down in 3 world this was my first experience ladies coming relatively late. I use a lot of energy upfront to make them understand beeing on time is important. But this inafcto story shows a hole diff picture. I usualy give the girl som slacks as trappic is horrendous from time to time so not even the well most travelled locals could predict but from 3pm until 5:15pm and communication from around 2 pm (I will be there in 30 minutes). Well that bad can no one predict travelling. But I stayed put. What we not sacrifies for the golden pinaypussy.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1562133]Be careful on line with Filipino links guys.
They use all sorts of tricks these days.
[url]http://www.rappler.com/nation/57022-interpol-pnp-nab-online-sextortion-ring-in-ph[/url][/QUOTE]RK,
I read that this morning. Actually made the news in the west. I got to tell ya though, you got to be out of your mind to fall for something like that. Like the Nigerian 419 scams. Who falls for that? And the girls on PinaLove and DIA. If she sends you a yahoo or skype name in her opening email. You can be 99% sure it's a scam. I don't know what but I don't have time to find out. I also have little sympathy for people that fall for these scams as they usually prey on human greed. Nothings for nothing. As with anything in life,"caveat emptor."
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1561468]Plus Obama promised to save the Philippines from any attack. Mainly because PNoy said the country did not have many or any fighter planes!
So the oligarchs will tell you via the spin doctors aka Palace spokesmen / women that the economy is great (Tiger economy) and poverty is falling, plus of course corruption is being tackled and the USA will save it from China so life must be great LOL.[/QUOTE]Oh, Good! Thanks for that clarification. When I heard Mr. Obama was coming, cynicism kicked in and I was thinking this probably isn't about the well being of the average Filipino. (Or the average American). I figured maybe it had something to do with that TPP deal. I'm glad that's not the case. Haha
[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1562240]RK,
I read that this morning. Actually made the news in the west. I got to tell ya though, you got to be out of your mind to fall for something like that. Like the Nigerian 419 scams. Who falls for that? And the girls on PinaLove and DIA. If she sends you a yahoo or skype name in her opening email. You can be 99% sure it's a scam. I don't know what but I don't have time to find out. I also have little sympathy for people that fall for these scams as they usually prey on human greed. Nothings for nothing. As with anything in life,"caveat emptor."[/QUOTE]I had the privilege of being walked through one such scam, an ex's sister's bf.
He even showed live videos of girls and the 'girl' goes. Let me show you my boob. And nothing else on web cam. I caught the scam almost when the admirer. Supposedly the girl, introduced herself saying the mutual friend requested to say hi.
It was pretty convincing. I never exposed myself, claiming my web cam was faulty. And played along, claimed I will send the money and the so called girl goes 'send to my cousin's name, as I don't have any I'd to collect. ' etc etc. And insisted I give my full address in Malaysia as part of WU verification, it wasn't hard for me to feign innocence and cook up a fake address.
I continued playing and swore I sent money and on and on. When the guy figured out I was bluffing he threatened to invoke the wrath of PNP. And said he is sending cops over to my hotel in Manila where we were supposed to rendezvous for fun. When in reality I was in Malaysia
If I didn't know Philippines, and that everyone name drops PNP or BI, I may have folded.
They can get pretty convincing and scary for the lesser initiated.
[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1562462]If I didn't know Philippines, and that everyone name drops PNP or BI, I may have folded.
They can get pretty convincing and scary for the lesser initiated.[/QUOTE]Which leads us back to my original post.
I said
"Be careful on line with Filipino links. They use all sorts of tricks these days".
Hi all,
I will be visiting Manila soon. Can't wait to get started on the action.
CT
[quote=econo tech; 1562187]a lot of manila taxi drivers have no qualms screwing innocent looking local passengers, from what i know.
a girl took a taxi from san juan to makati, on a saturday and after 2 hours, the driver dropped her near greenbelt saying he don't know how to get to makati ave. the girl showed the receipt for nearly 300 peso.[/quote]this is so true. a friend of mine (ac bar girl) went to samar last february and when she arrived at bus terminal in manila, she got a taxi to terminal 3 and the driver wanted 800p for her fare. she complained and the driver said you are working in the bar, being paid by foreigners and have money to fly to samar, so you can afford it. she paid it because she was scared.
when i lived in the pi, i had five or six trusted cabbie on speed dial. when i would go to the casino, with 20, 000p or casino pickup with atm run on way back to hotel or if i was going to make a few stops. a good cabbie is worth their weight in gold.