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[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1174120]And, where might these places of quality & value be?[/QUOTE]Yes, please help us uneducated mongers with your wisdom. After traveling to 30+ countries, I guess the best sucked in quality & value. Please enlighten our dumb asses.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2; 1173822]But of the 100's of ladies on Beach Road there always seemed to be a handful of acceptable choices. You just have to be patient. If there are no acceptable choices just try again in an hour or two. I also found that you have a better chance of a GFE with the Pattaya ladies than with the Bangkok ladies.
SunLover[/QUOTE]I have been reading all the recent posts on 'Beach Road' with interest. I still maintain that it is (for me) the BEST value for money in Pattaya.
There is some truth in ALL the recent reports regarding quality of providers.
YES, there are some (many) horrible, over the hill, providers who should have been pensioned off years ago.
BUT, I have always been able to find at least one cutie there as a playmate to keep me more than happy, especially in the afternoons!
ALL of us Mongers enjoy different things Tall / Short. Younger / Older. Big Boobs / Small Ones. Dark Skin or Light! It is the VARIETY of availability that keeps us guys happy.
I believe that, with a bit of searching, there is something for everybody there. Also on Beach Road. There is plenty of chance to talk with the girls to see if there is some 'compatibility' (if that is important to you!)
AND, at 500 Baht a pop it is not so expensive.
I am NOT looking for a 'perfect 10! ' An enthusiastic 'girl next door' type' will do it for me.
OK, you can pay 2, 000/3, 000 Baht elsewhere BUT you still stand a chance of a 'dead starfish experience! '
Let's try to and agree that there are good and bad experiences to be had EVERYWHERE in Pattaya!
Enjoy it ALL. (I do!)
Hotman.
The Thai people's service mentality is well-known. That's why I was a bit astonished last night while walking around inside the Central Festival shopping mall fifteen minutes before closing time (11 p.m.).
Most shops looked closed (they had pulled down the "metal walls" halfway. What's the meaning of this, by the way?) and half had already closed. At 10.52 I entered a eyewear shop which looked open, but was told I had to leave. I can understand if it was 10.59 and I wanted to try every pair of glasses in the shop, but this? Very weird.
Do the shop owners know about this agree with this behavior?
I spoke to my Thai friend about Buddha weekend next Friday and Saturday. Apparently the alcohol lockdown won't be as severe as during the election weekend. Bars will be open as usual but clubs might be closed, he said.
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1174219]The Thai people's service mentality is well-known. That's why I was a bit astonished last night while walking around inside the Central Festival shopping mall fifteen minutes before closing time (11 pm).
Most shops looked closed (they had pulled down the "metal walls" halfway. What's the meaning of this, by the way?) and half had already closed. At 10. 52 I entered a eyewear shop which looked open, but was told I had to leave. I can understand if it was 10. 59 and I wanted to try every pair of glasses in the shop, but this? Very weird.
Do the shop owners know about this agree with this behavior?[/QUOTE]Down = Go Away.
Easy. At 135 Bt day (daily shopkeeper wage) and what a 12 hour shift, I wouldn't hang around either.
In western countries at western wages and super expensive mall rents with strict conditions, yes they stay open to a standard.
Their home life and family is more important than a 50bt T-shirt sale. Also safety in numbers. Someone has to take the days
Takings home. Leave a bit later on your own robbers or police. Well you are asking for it.
[quote=tomjackin; 1174192]i've been going to pattaya since 1978, were you even born yet sangkid? nothing is pathetic and nothing has totally fucked up pattaya. i was here before you were in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url]. pattaya is what it is and has been that for decades, a monger's paradise!
there still many beautiful and hot thai women in pattaya and not just a couple, but hundreds. please share what county you have been to that has more per square mile, i'll wait for you answer. i've made 6 trips from the us in the last 3 years. the only difference is there are a lot more nationalities than in recent years. before you jump on the amjeck bandwagon, do the fucking research for yourself. and if you don't like what is happening in pattaya, stay the fuck home and jack off.[/quote]my problem is that i like to fuck sexy, slim, beautiful young girls and you don't find these girls patrolling the beach road. in fact you don't find them anywhere in pattaya apart from the walking street. some years back i went through a stage of picking girls of the beach but i had three terrible experiences so i gave up. one was a drug addict; another just stank even after she showered and the third just lay there and did nothing. now i know i have to pay more in the walking street but i don't mind.
i think it is important for guys reading this forum, particularly young guys, to understand exactly how pattaya is. you have experience and you know the score. young guys coming to pattaya for the first time need to know where to find the young hot girls. they don't want to waste time searching the beach road and other areas where they won't find any young hot girls.
btw i'm not jumping on amjeck's bandwagon. just telling how it really is and i've been to and worked in loads of different countries.
as for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] in 1978. not quite. now relax and enjoy your screw-driver.
[QUOTE=Keeniu;1174247]Their home life and family is more important than a 50bt T-shirt sale. Also safety in numbers.[/QUOTE]Good luck finding a 50 Baht T-shirt at Central Festival.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1174255]By 10. 52 a. M they have had enough of farangs. Do you really think they are going to entertain you 10. 52 pm The last thing they want is some farang coming in at that time after working a 12 hour day.[/QUOTE]Why the attitude? I just thought it was weird for a high end shopping mall. Okay if it was a bazar.
[QUOTE=Keeniu;1174247]At 135 Bt day (daily shopkeeper wage) and what a 12 hour shift[/QUOTE]Mm, I read somewhere that a good position at a decent hotel, say reception manager, they earn 200 bahts a day.
[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1174252]My problem is that I like to fuck sexy, slim, beautiful young girls and you don't find these girls patrolling the beach road. In fact you don't find them anywhere in Pattaya apart from the Walking Street.
Now relax and enjoy your screw-driver.[/QUOTE]I've never read any reports where someone was raving about sexy, slim, beautiful young girls patrolling the beach road. The Coconut Bar is what it is, all sizes, shapes, and tastes of women, for a good price. But I can't recall a report that someone found the beauty of his dreams hanging out on beach road.
And the sexy, slim, beautiful young girls that are on walking street, are usual going or coming from work from one of the go go clubs, or they are heading out to discos.
That being said, there are gems all over Pattaya, and they always don't jump out at you. Patience is everything in this hobby.
And thank you, and if I recall, it was a tasty screw-driver.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1174329]Mm, I read somewhere that a good position at a decent hotel, say reception manager, they earn 200 bahts a day.[/QUOTE]One of my non-pros just got promoted the other day from receptionist to assistant manager. She said she will be making 9, 000 baht / month. And my MILF high school teacher makes 30,000 baht/month.
There are always diamonds in the rough of Beach Road. Not at all times and not everyday but if you just keep your eye out one will appear. I never went there specifically looking but it's a nice stroll anyway on a not tooo hot a day and great at night.
I was only in Patts for a couple of weeks and loved every minute of it, hooked up everywhere from Gogos (fun to hang out in and drink but iffy service) to massage parlor meet at my place after work arangements. And my best experience of all was a Beach Road young lady (22) down from Bangkok for the weekend. She worked in a massage place that caters to Japanese and clients had completely dried up because of the Red Shirt craziness going on at the time.
She had literally just arrived and had her carry bag with her and I smiled as I walked by-she smiled back, I stopped, we chatted a bit and I invited her for a drink. She took my hand and off we went for drinks, dancing a bit to eat and a night and morning of super out of this world passionate sex. Money was never even discussed.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1174214]I believe that, with a bit of searching, there is something for everybody there. Also on Beach Road. There is plenty of chance to talk with the girls to see if there is some 'compatibility' (if that is important to you!)
AND, at 500 Baht a pop it is not so expensive.
I am NOT looking for a 'perfect 10! ' An enthusiastic 'girl next door' type' will do it for me.[/QUOTE]Agreed. For me attitude is twice as important as looks. Quantified it would look something like this:
(looks x 1) + (attitude x 2) /3 = overall rating.
So a 10 looks and 7 attitude lady would rate an 8.
And a 7 looks and 10 attitude lady would rate a 9.
I looked for a Beach Road SW lady who is smiling and giggling even before I engage her. If she is in a decent mood sitting there talking to her friends that is a good sign. I would also check out the legs and make sure they are not too beaten up. I also preferred shopping during the day because it was easier to judge appearances; plus it was my experience that the LB presence during the day was near zero.
SunLover
Next door to the famed [B]Devil's Den[/B] Is a new place called [B]Heavenly Inn[/B]. Has anybody [B]tried this place? [/B] They don't seem do have a webpage, but it looks like Devil's Den (girls sitting around a table outside). [B]Does the place operate like Devil's Den? Price? [/B]
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1174897]So on the beach road where the average looks are 2 to 4 do you add say 5 for attitude to justify taking them.[/QUOTE]Unless you pick your ladies with a blindfold on the average of Beach Road looks has nothing to do with it. IMO there is a handful of better looking ladies to be had. You just need to seek them out. And I have had some decent GFE's with them. YMMV.
SunLover